Jakarta

[Goferring]

Personally I don't think you even have to do all this. She's made enough money off you in my opinion. You really have to get it straight into your head. If you want a relationship, you do this with girls who have some sort of normal jobs and regular life. If you want to just monger and have fun, you MUST go in with zero emotion (but can still have respect and fun) and do the girls you meet at the regular mongering venues. Do NOT mix the two as these are totally SEPARATE worlds, even within the same country. If you choose to monger, feel free to splurge but only when you are there in person. After you go to the airport for your flight back home, you turn it off until your next trip. Get the fracking balls to do this! You don't owe these girls anything and it's not up to you to 'save' them. If you treated them with respect while you were there, then you already did more than many guys who go there and treat them like trash. So by the end of your trip, you owe them NOTHING. Stop being a white knight trying to save a girl.

Again, if it's a real relationship you want, that's okay. Just go to the normal dating world and don't expect them to get intimate with you until the relationship starts building. Go through normal even foreign dating channels where you can meet regular girls. And even if this sounds harsh. Get off ISG. This is not the place for guys who just want relationships. This is a place for mongerers and we follow the golden rule of never falling in love with a working girl, even a part time one, in the sex industry.

Make your decision and save your money for your next mongering trip OR for a trip to meet a real future girlfriend or wive. They will be different types of trips.

Sugar Babies can make great girl friends. The secret is to not be the Daddy. Be the Side Dick who is banging her for a pittance while Daddy is paying the rent, the phone, the allowance etc. The only downside is the need to lay low once or twice a year. No biggie.

For every guy sending monthly cash to secure exclusivity, there is a LDR girlfriend receiving it with thanks and going off to bang someone in town here and now.

Enjoy. G.

[Irish Mongrel]

While I was there, her birthday came up, and she suggested a car as a gift, arguing that taking a Gojek or Grab late at night isn't safe for a girl in Jakarta. After a lot of thinking, I decided to go for it. I paid an 85% down payment right at the dealership via Wise for a used car, and she would cover the remaining 15% in monthly payments. Yeah. A total jaw-dropper, right? But I did it. I can afford it, so I just went to the dealer and thought, "Whatever, if we break up next week, so be it. I'll just write off the loss and move on. ".

So I had a regular non-P4 P "friend with benefits" that I knew since she was a Uni student. Used to send her the odd bit off money for her birthday and Christmas (love how muslim's celebrate that) and took her all over Asia with me. I'm sure I was one of many "friends", I knew she had a Bule boyfriend whom she finally married, but also had enough suspicion that there were other guys like me floating around. She is now a very successful business woman, I would still catch up with her on the odd occasion but finally stopped meeting, although still chatting. I stopped sending her any money when she started buying houses and other fancy things, which gives you an idea of how her business has gone.

A couple of years ago, just before her birthday, she sent me a picture of a convertible Mercedes SLK200, asking me to buy it for her, not exactly a cheap car in Indo. When her birthday came around I sent her a picture of a similar car with a Leprechaun in it holding a bunch of roses. Thank-you chat GPT. She laughed it off but still continued to see me. These girls will try anything, no matter how much or how little money they have. Her sister wanted a car and her then Bule boyfriend sent her a chunk of money to pay for the down payment. I know that's not you as you are the wrong race and a few years ago. They broke up and the Bule asked for his money back, you can guess how that went.

It is something that these girls expect. I just ignore. Family tragedy will be the next issue. Daddy or mummy has cancer and needs treatment, please help.

[Werqweq]

While I was there, her birthday came up, and she suggested a car as a gift, arguing that taking a Gojek or Grab late at night isn't safe for a girl in Jakarta.

Indeed. Notwithstanding that, as Safado70 pointed out, one could wonder where she is going late at night in Jakarta, taking grab can indeed be dangerous for a pretty girl in Jakarta.

In truth, the whole car / bike mode of transportation is inherently dangerous because there are so many idiots on the road (i.e. , everyone but me). I suspect it was only her loving modesty that prevented her from suggesting a helicopter as a suitable birthday gift, settling instead for the more modest option of "car", to use for her nightly visits to the closest mosque, where she is no doubt praying for your imminent return.

Who can not love a girl who suggests you gift her a car? Class all the way.

Sorry dude, but: WTF. This amour is so one-sided you need somebody to slap some sense in you with a large trout.
Send those rupiahs to me instead. At least I will include you in my monthly prayers and generously distribute your money amongst the Classic girls. No longer will I need to limit myself to the two-girl package. With your support, every session will be me and the four best looking girls available at the moment.

[Exoticspirit]

Thanks for the suggestions, everyone! I think I'm going to phase things out slowly in a planned, agreed-upon, and sustainable way. Like I said, I've always treated her as a friend and I still care about her, so I don't want to just rip the band-aid off. My plan is to continue supporting her with the same allowance for another month, and after that, I'll pay her monthly car payment directly to the bank for a year to pay it off, which is minuscule by comparison.

By the way, her driver's license was printed in just 10 minutes at the SIM office the very same day! I just had to pay a little extra under the table. Go figure. She really is a good driver, she drove me around while I was in JKT.

Personally I don't think you even have to do all this. She's made enough money off you in my opinion. You really have to get it straight into your head. If you want a relationship, you do this with girls who have some sort of normal jobs and regular life. If you want to just monger and have fun, you MUST go in with zero emotion (but can still have respect and fun) and do the girls you meet at the regular mongering venues. Do NOT mix the two as these are totally SEPARATE worlds, even within the same country. If you choose to monger, feel free to splurge but only when you are there in person. After you go to the airport for your flight back home, you turn it off until your next trip. Get the fracking balls to do this! You don't owe these girls anything and it's not up to you to 'save' them. If you treated them with respect while you were there, then you already did more than many guys who go there and treat them like trash. So by the end of your trip, you owe them NOTHING. Stop being a white knight trying to save a girl.

Again, if it's a real relationship you want, that's okay. Just go to the normal dating world and don't expect them to get intimate with you until the relationship starts building. Go through normal even foreign dating channels where you can meet regular girls. And even if this sounds harsh. Get off ISG. This is not the place for guys who just want relationships. This is a place for mongerers and we follow the golden rule of never falling in love with a working girl, even a part time one, in the sex industry.

Make your decision and save your money for your next mongering trip OR for a trip to meet a real future girlfriend or wive. They will be different types of trips.

[EasyIslandLife]

Thanks for the suggestions, everyone! I think I'm going to phase things out slowly in a planned, agreed-upon, and sustainable way. Like I said, I've always treated her as a friend and I still care about her, so I don't want to just rip the band-aid off. My plan is to continue supporting her with the same allowance for another month, and after that, I'll pay her monthly car payment directly to the bank for a year to pay it off, which is minuscule by comparison.

By the way, her driver's license was printed in just 10 minutes at the SIM office the very same day! I just had to pay a little extra under the table. Go figure. She really is a good driver, she drove me around while I was in JKT.

I can't say I come from a wealth of experience in this matter, but here is my take.

I picked up from Classics and in essence spent 9 days with SB "A" for 33 million IDR. No English, so it was all translation apps like you. SB "A" has another SD from Hong Kong that pays her 50 million IDR and visits her 1-2 weekends per a month. That guy doesn't even get BBFS from her, but he pays monthly because she is a cute young sweet thing with a 10 body and he must get something emotional out of it. She uses his money to live in an apartment alone so they have a place together when he visits her and so she doesn't have to live at the Classics dorm. I don't know if that SD requested her to be exclusive, as she still works at Classics (fucking 5-6 guys per night), and she was all too happy too take my money, travel and spend time with me, and let me fuck her brains out 1-2 times per day. According to her, she doesn't even like her SD from HK, as she complains that he demands sex 4-5 times per day and he keeps bringing up moving her to HK, marriage and having kids with her. I'm pretty sure she is going to string him along as long as she possible because she is just trying to make as much money as possible for herself and her family back home.

I spent 33 million IDR for 9 days with SB "J", a college student I found on Seeking, also with no English. It was the best GFE and sex I've ever had IRL or in the hobby as she was wild in bed and she basically demanded I have BBFS with her 4-5 times per day as opposed to the other way around. She was wonderful, adorable, sweet, fun, had a perfect 10 body and I very much fell in love with my time with her and bonded with her, so I can understand how you fell for your cute Seeking girl. We still WhatsApps regularly, but less than a month after leaving her in Jakarta, she pointed out she had a toothache, explained it was her wisdom teeth and needed money to have her wisdom teeth surgically removed. I said "No", explaining I live too far away to provide regular support. This "No" has not yet killed the relationship as she still wants me to take her to Tokyo and Disneyland Japan, which I'm considering for a reduced gift and BBFS 4-5 times per day.

[MachchiBaba]

True. Tune in next month: "Daddy, I need 10 jt for driving lessons" for an imaginary licence to drive an imaginary car.

It never stops. I once knew a guy who literally bought a girl a house and the week after papers were signed she complained that it was too far from school so she now needed a motorbike too. True story. 🤦

Enjoy. G.

Thanks for the suggestions, everyone! I think I'm going to phase things out slowly in a planned, agreed-upon, and sustainable way. Like I said, I've always treated her as a friend and I still care about her, so I don't want to just “rip the band-aid off”. My plan is to continue supporting her with the same allowance for another month, and after that, I'll pay her monthly car payment directly to the bank for a year to pay it off, which is minuscule by comparison.

By the way, her driver's license was printed in just 10 minutes at the SIM office the very same day! I just had to pay a little extra under the table. Go figure. She really is a good driver, she drove me around while I was in JKT.

[GentleSapien]

True. Tune in next month: "Daddy, I need 10 jt for driving lessons" for an imaginary licence to drive an imaginary car.

It never stops. I once knew a guy who literally bought a girl a house and the week after papers were signed she complained that it was too far from school so she now needed a motorbike too. True story. 🤦

Enjoy. G.

What if she needs to pay for driver (aka boyfriend) salary to drive car.

[Goferring]

How could the car leave the lot? I'm pretty sure the girl doesn't have a drivers license.

True. Tune in next month: "Daddy, I need 10 jt for driving lessons" for an imaginary licence to drive an imaginary car.

It never stops. I once knew a guy who literally bought a girl a house and the week after papers were signed she complained that it was too far from school so she now needed a motorbike too. True story. 🤦

Enjoy. G.

[Safado70]

My money is on the 85% deposit being 150% of the true price of the car, the dealer got 10% for a sheet of paper resembling a sales receipt and the rest went into her pocket.

What car? It never left the lot. 😜

Enjoy. G.

How could the car leave the lot? I'm pretty sure the girl doesn't have a drivers license.

[Goferring]

As others have said, your money. And as you said, you can afford it.

My money is on that car 100% getting repossessed because she "forgot" to make the payment, spent it on her local boyfriend, family, etc. Or she'll just flip it for cash.

Good luck. Seems like you are a kind, generous dude, looking for love in the wrong place and getting taking advantage of though.

My money is on the 85% deposit being 150% of the true price of the car, the dealer got 10% for a sheet of paper resembling a sales receipt and the rest went into her pocket.

What car? It never left the lot. 😜

Enjoy. G.

[NoGermaphobe]

Fast forward to May and June: I made my way back to Jakarta and Bali for about 3 to 4 weeks. In fact, I'm writing this from the plane heading back to the US right now. She stayed with me the entire time, and we truly loved it. Of course, we had our occasional fights, but we always reconciled. While I was there, her birthday came up, and she suggested a car as a gift, arguing that taking a Gojek or Grab late at night isn't safe for a girl in Jakarta. After a lot of thinking, I decided to go for it. I paid an 85% down payment right at the dealership via Wise for a used car, and she would cover the remaining 15% in monthly payments. Yeah. A total jaw-dropper, right? But I did it. I can afford it, so I just went to the dealer and thought, "Whatever, if we break up next week, so be it. I'll just write off the loss and move on. ".

As others have said, your money. And as you said, you can afford it.

My money is on that car 100% getting repossessed because she "forgot" to make the payment, spent it on her local boyfriend, family, etc. Or she'll just flip it for cash.

Good luck. Seems like you are a kind, generous dude, looking for love in the wrong place and getting taking advantage of though.

[SuperLove]

I think you are chasing an emotional connection and not just pussy. Deep down you also know this babe will do what she wants when she wants and where she wants. You're getting played and falling for it, move on. This can hurt you badly, very badly.

For a bit of context, I'm an Indian-American in my low 50's. I stay athletic, take care of my health, and I'd like to think I'm reasonably okay-looking.

It's been a long time since I've been around this forum. I wanted to come back and share a story that's currently unfolding in my life mostly because I think it's pretty unique and might drop a few jaws. I wouldn't call this my first rodeo, as I've had a few experiences like this before, but this one is definitely pushing the envelope. We are right in the thick of it as we speak. Read on.

Back in October 2025, I met a girl from Jakarta on Seeking.com. I was staying in Bali at the time, so I flew her out to join me for a week. She initially asked for 18 million IDR, but I ended up paying her 36 million. I know, I know-Im a spoiler. I fully expect to take some heat from the forum for that (and for a few other things I did later). She was honestly the cutest thing I had ever seen. The catch was that she didn't speak any English, so we had to rely entirely on a translator app. That made deep, analytical, or psychological conversations impossible, so things stayed on the surfacewhich was actually fine for what it was. But if I'm being completely honest with myself and with you guys, I caught real feelings for her. She was just incredibly adorable and fun to be around. For me, just cuddling and being close felt amazing, even when it wasn't about sex.

After Bali, I headed back to the US, and we started chatting on WhatsApp almost every day. Call it a man's pride, but I wanted her exclusively..

[TomGrand]

But the thought of breaking up and cutting off the financial support is deeply disturbing to me, because I know she would likely have to go back to her old way of living.

She never left her old way of living. She never will, not permanently. It's too easy for her.

You already know this.

[Giovanni Volo]

Hello.

I just reply because you ask for an opinion. Me too I have had a Chinese girl in Bangkok that just fall in love to me. We too.

Never speak the same language. Another ones in Angels, at least we can speak English both. In both case I pass trough.

There are no reason, logical or illogical, they want me and just me. Specially the ones we cannot speak decently.

Moreover it is really ridicoluous to avoid Grab in Jakarta, and buy a car for safe in the night (But where she have to go in the night?)

I never think, and it will not be nice, that a young girl with 45 million IDR a month in Jakarta (crazy amount!) cannot go to club ith friends and guys, also very often. What she have to do?

I am really sorry when some girl can play with us like this. I really never know how can you be sure that now she stop having fun with guys and friends, and why you want this. You cannot pay someones to stay in prison, specially if you.

Give her a car and 45 million IDR every month (absolutely crazy in Jakarta!).

Think about. I will be in Jakarta in three weeks, ready to pay for my fun right local amount. No pay forever when I live and she will have her free life (for sure).

For a bit of context, I'm an Indian-American in my low 50's. I stay athletic, take care of my health, and I'd like to think I'm reasonably okay-looking.

It's been a long time since I've been around this forum. I wanted to come back and share a story that's currently unfolding in my life mostly because I think it's pretty unique and might drop a few jaws. I wouldn't call this my first rodeo, as I've had a few experiences like this before, but this one is definitely pushing the envelope. We are right in the thick of it as we speak. Read on.

Back in October 2025, I met a girl from Jakarta on Seeking.com. I was staying in Bali at the time, so I flew her out to join me for a week. She initially asked for 18 million IDR, but I ended up paying her 36 million. I know, I know-Im a spoiler. I fully expect to take some heat from the forum for that (and for a few other things I did later). She was honestly the cutest thing I had ever seen. The catch was that she didn't speak any English, so we had to rely entirely on a translator app. That made deep, analytical, or psychological conversations impossible, so things stayed on the surfacewhich was actually fine for what it was. But if I'm being completely honest with myself and with you guys, I caught real feelings for her. She was just incredibly adorable and fun to be around. For me, just cuddling and being close felt amazing, even when it wasn't about sex.

After Bali, I headed back to the US, and we started chatting on WhatsApp almost every day. Call it a man's pride, but I wanted her exclusively. I liked the idea of having her as a remote girlfriend. So, we made a deal: I started sending her 45 million IDR a month. The goal was to fully cover her living expenses so she wouldn't feel the need to meet up with random guys for money. She didn't have a regular job or a steady salary, so this allowance was her entire income. From what I understand, 45 million a month goes a long way in Jakarta.

However, between January and February while I was back in the States, I started noticing some vague red flags. It seemed like she was still going out to nightclubs, staying out until the morning or afternoon, and likely meeting up with guys at malls for lunch or seeing past regulars behind my back. Whenever I brought it up, she would turn it back on me, saying I was just being accusatory and demanding proof. I didn't have hard evidence, but my gut was absolutely certain. So, we called it quits around the end of February.

Two weeks later, she came back to me. She promised she would completely change her life, stop going to clubs, stop seeing other people, and avoid doing anything that made me uncomfortable. She seemed genuinely eager to move her life in a positive, meaningful direction. Wanting to support that, I restarted the monthly allowance and also enrolled her in a professional skills program in Jakarta that cost (4-6)*10s of millions so she could eventually open a franchise with a few staff members. I won't list every single expense here, or I'll look even crazier than I already do! After that, she really did seem to change. As far as I know, the nightclubbing and seeing other guys completely stopped.

Fast forward to May and June: I made my way back to Jakarta and Bali for about 3 to 4 weeks. In fact, I'm writing this from the plane heading back to the US right now. She stayed with me the entire time, and we truly loved it. Of course, we had our occasional fights, but we always reconciled. While I was there, her birthday came up, and she suggested a car as a gift, arguing that taking a Gojek or Grab late at night isn't safe for a girl in Jakarta. After a lot of thinking, I decided to go for it. I paid an 85% down payment right at the dealership via Wise for a used car, and she would cover the remaining 15% in monthly payments. Yeah. A total jaw-dropper, right? But I did it. I can afford it, so I just went to the dealer and thought, "Whatever, if we break up next week, so be it. I'll just write off the loss and move on. ".

We had an amazing time, and I truly believe we bonded on a much deeper level. Believe it or not, she even introduced me to her family (her siblings), and we went out for lunch and dinner a few times. They were incredibly decent people.

But now that I'm on the plane home, reality is hitting me. I feel like I'm carrying this way too far, and I don't really know what my end game is. Part of me feels like I should just keep the momentum going. But the thought of breaking up and cutting off the financial support is deeply disturbing to me, because I know she would likely have to go back to her old way of living.

I know exactly what most of you are going to say, and what you would actually do if you were in my shoes. But right now, for lack of a better phrase, I just can't see the light at the end of the tunnel. It's a pretty precarious situation to be in. I would really appreciate hearing some different viewpoints and perspectives from the forum to help me figure out my next move for a win-win resolve.

[Goferring]

But now that I'm on the plane home, reality is hitting me. I feel like I'm carrying this way too far, and I don't really know what my end game is. Part of me feels like I should just keep the momentum going. But the thought of breaking up and cutting off the financial support is deeply disturbing to me, because I know she would likely have to go back to her old way of living.

I know exactly what most of you are going to say, and what you would actually do if you were in my shoes. But right now, for lack of a better phrase, I just can't see the light at the end of the tunnel. It's a pretty precarious situation to be in. I would really appreciate hearing some different viewpoints and perspectives from the forum to help me figure out my next move for a win-win resolve.

Its your money so if you had a good time and it's not an excessive drain in your finances, then no harm no foul. Its good to read that you enjoyed your escapades.

We both know that its all a big game. There was no exclusivity, school fees or 15% residual on the car. They were just ploys to get more money from you. From her side, it worked and from your side, you were happy to support her. A fair trade.

The future and ending?? The same as the thousands of other similar stories. Continue to send her an ever increasing "allowance" or "support" in exchange for the warm and fuzzy feelings. When she gets too greedy or the numbers get too big, that's when it dawns on you what's happening and you move on disappointed but with good memories.

The logical me would say that she's probably doing this to six other guys, that you should just rip the band-aid off and walk away. However, if you're getting something in return and it's still value for money, then just keep enjoying it.

Of course, another option is to save the money you would have drip fed her and put it into a war chest for your next trip. Do the math: 40 jt per month for say six months plus some gifts, rent etc along the way is 300 jt. Imagine her / other girls' reaction if you arrived prepared to spend that over a couple of weeks. 😳.

Enjoy. G.