Cartagena Reports

[Black Page]

Sorry, I feel the need to add some more words.

I thinkj I've been misunderstood.

Gringo = $$.

>A good colombian girl from a good family will NEVER go to a short time hotel. >170K + 15K + 15k + drinks + food. Over US $100 for short time = PRO

>The only NON PRO in LDV. Of course, she said so.
Gringo = $$.

Did I say she was NON PRO?

I said "Apparently non pro"!

I meant that she's exactly the kind of girl I like to meet. Not sleazy, cute, educated, not hunting for men in the bar.

Actually, she's the sister of a well seasoned pro working in LDV for a long time. She joined her for need of money. What a difference!

Gringo = $$.

Enjoy the vacation but also know things for what they really are.
Gringo = $$.

Thank you.

I am well seasoned monger. I know things a bit.

In summary, the sake of my report:

- avoid LDV
- go to the beach at dady time
- try Jaiva.

Best regards to all!

[James Zz]

Apologies in advance for not consolidating everything into one post. I had typed it all up but then the copy/pasting to the forum caused some problems for me.

Anyway, my general thoughts on Cartagena is that the best looking girls for me were from Medellin anyway so might as well go right to the source. The beach doesn't compare to Rio or Cancun and the lack of infrastructure is a turn off for me.

I don't think there's any reason to worry that Cartagena would become too popular like Costa Rica and be ruined. Cartagena is not ready for prime time and IMO, won't for at least a few more years.

Personally for me, I didn't feel bad for not hitting LDV. I didn't think too much of Help at Rio anyway so I don't think it was a big lost. I did have a lot of fun in Cartagena but I don't think I will return. Even if I do, it'd only be for 1 or max of 2 nights only w/ friends that insist on seeing all of Colombia.

For the beach life, I'd go straight to Rio. I also like the setup in Rio much better with standard BBBJ and numerous Termas. And strangely enough, I felt safer in Rio than in Cartagena which is really odd since just a year ago I thought Rio was too dangerous to go.

All in all, had a great time in Cartagena and started to like it despite intially being turned off by it.

These are just my personal thoughts and I know different places work for different people. It's all about finding the right place for yourself. Rio suits me a little better than Cartagena.

The best thing about colombia is the local girls. If you do not speak spanish or are just there for a quick trip once a year you will probably not meet them.

They are not the girls that come on to you and go to short time hotels.

The guys that live there know a lot and can really help, but even they do not know everything that goes on. Its a big country with large cities y campos. Trust your instinct. Take what you need then make your own decisions.

Do not believe everything you read. Guys bs as much as pros, semi-pros,non-pros bs.

CTG pros. To much work to get a good return. CTG locals..much much better return. I thought cali was much better but my balls are not big enough to live there. I only went with someone i knew lived there

Mr Blue. Good report. No BS. No crap about being in a hooker bar and having hookers and non-pros wanting to be with you because your so cute and cool and good looking. GRINGO = $$. You can change the price and service but the bottom line is always the same. Thank goodness its a mans world.

Enough of my BS. This site wants pics + prices. No mas hasta yo tengo.

[Mr Blue]

Apologies in advance for not consolidating everything into one post. I had typed it all up but then the copy/pasting to the forum caused some problems for me.

Anyway, my general thoughts on Cartagena is that the best looking girls for me were from Medellin anyway so might as well go right to the source. The beach doesn't compare to Rio or Cancun and the lack of infrastructure is a turn off for me.

I don't think there's any reason to worry that Cartagena would become too popular like Costa Rica and be ruined. Cartagena is not ready for prime time and IMO, won't for at least a few more years.

Personally for me, I didn't feel bad for not hitting LDV. I didn't think too much of Help at Rio anyway so I don't think it was a big lost. I did have a lot of fun in Cartagena but I don't think I will return. Even if I do, it'd only be for 1 or max of 2 nights only w/ friends that insist on seeing all of Colombia.

For the beach life, I'd go straight to Rio. I also like the setup in Rio much better with standard BBBJ and numerous Termas. And strangely enough, I felt safer in Rio than in Cartagena which is really odd since just a year ago I thought Rio was too dangerous to go.

All in all, had a great time in Cartagena and started to like it despite intially being turned off by it.

These are just my personal thoughts and I know different places work for different people. It's all about finding the right place for yourself. Rio suits me a little better than Cartagena.

[Mr Blue]

Day 5:

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That was really the last of it though. We got a quick drink and back down we drove. We decided to ask him to take us to Paseo de Castellana which is a local mall. We walked around a bit and saw a few more cute girls than last night when we were here briefly. We wandered around, bought some shirts (which btw, is pretty cheap at only 25-30 dollars for dress shirts) before heading out to dinner. We asked him to recommend something for us. Something with seafood because we knew that Cartagena beef was not good and it was a coastal town so seafood was generally pretty good.

We ended up in a place that we would've never found by ourselves. It's a small restaurant with a lot of tables but we were the only ones there. After some excellent fish filet, bananas, and fish, we were ready to head out. The original plan was to head out by ourselves tonight. Ever seemed to only know his side of town and didn't feel too comfortable downtown. I don't know if he really felt it was unsafe or because he was unfamiliar with it or he did not make commission from these places. Anyhow, he called a few places and hunted down a few girls for us. We drive deep in the hood way outside of the city center in the middle of an apartment complex. It looked like the projects. There, a fat old lady with two girls were waiting. My friend gets off to get a better look. I stay in the car. After some negociations, My friend decides that he will take one of them. But wait, mamasita has another girl! So we drive around for the next 20 mins finding this girl. We literally drive up to her house and she comes out to meet us. I'm sorry, this is just too fuckin weird for me. I declined asap. So now we drop mamasita off and we head towards our old stomping grounds.

We hit pleyclub ASAP as I didn't want to bother with the other clubs. They all sucked anyway. I go in and I see Veronica from last night. Cute girl but we didn't really click. I notice quite a few other girls there and we were one of two tables. Then the lights dim and the stripper comes out again. Yup, it was Karen again. Man oh man, she's hot. She's one of the best stripper's I've seen and only 18 so her body is fuckin tight. After she is done, dressed, and out for a rest, I immediately grab her. I already made up my mind who to take for the night. It'd be Karen. I test her to see if I could get away with taking both her and veronica for a night of lotta fun. She doesn't like girls she says. This is a bad sign for threesome so I scratch the idea and leave with my bounty. She mentions that she does know Veronica b/c they both worked in Lejano Orientes in Medellin.

We head back to the apartment for some early fun. It couldn't have been later than 10:30 or 11 and we'd have these girls all night. We pay Ever and give him the bad news: we're leaving tomorrow. We don't flat out tell him we're not coming back. He will send his coworker to drive us to the airport tomorrow. We pay him about 140k pesos and said our goodbyes.

So of course in the course of our conversation with Ever, Karen finds out we're going to Medellin next. She is bouncing off the walls and starts telling me everything about Medellin. She being from Medellin and our encounter a few nights earlier, must've thought she influenced us to go to Medellin. I show her some photos of our trip today and we talk for a bit. I really enjoy just spending time with her and talking. We get down to business and she is better this time than the first!

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[Mr Blue]

Warning: Long report with a lot of non-mongering info.

Day 2:

We left the hotel at 9am for a 11:30am flight to Cartagena. The checkin was smooth and security fairly relaxed. We arrive way early thinking it'd take us a while to get checked in and through security. The flight was uneventful and we had the A Foreign Affair guys send a taxi to pick us up. It cost 25USD which was definitely above market rate. I would take a taxi myself next time and save a few bucks to tip the girls.

The driver took us to Caribe Real where the building manager had the key waiting for us. While "checking in" we met Carlos from Puerto Rico who was glad to help us out. After we examined our apartment, I was a bit disappointed at the quality. For 80 a night for 2 bedrooms, I considered it pretty cheap but the quality wasn't as good as I wanted. Also, one of the windows lacked curtains exposing the entire room to the hotel next door. After calling A Foreign Affair, they couldn't send someone until Monday. We decided to just put up bed sheets for now. This trip is starting to suck. It was hot and humid and apartment wasn't great and I just felt uncomfortable.

The whole city is based off tourist money. Stupid tourists that buy stupid shit and EVERYONE asked for a tip for anything. It was here I saw something I've never seen before: mobile phones. Basically a woman carried a cell phone around and you whistled or called her over and she'd dial for you and charge you 900 pesos to make the call. I'd later find out that right next door in a regular shop, you can make calls for 300 pesos. Waste of a good 40c :P.

In the afternoon, we walked around the neighborhood checking out Laguito. We then took a cab to Plaza Santo Domingo for some food. I felt this was a rip off and the food wasn't great for the price. Also people would come around hawking all sorts of shit again and again and again. How many times do I have to say no. I swear I keep seeing the same guys come back with different things and even the same guys come back with the same things!

After lunch we took some pictures and walked along the old city walls taking a bunch of pictures. It really wasn't that interesting, just a lot of walking. For dinner, we took the advice of the CTG list and went to the "best" restaurant in town called San Pedro Claver. To our surprise, it was full. We had to make a reservation for the next night. We ended up with some Italian fast food in Laquito.

After dinner we decided enough is enough. We're going to Pleyboy and hailed a cab. The driver drove us way out of town and when we arrived he asked if we wanted him to wait. We got a price quote of 15k for the trip to and back and the wait which IMO, was a pretty good price. We arrived at around 10:30.

We headed in and it's a strip joint with few men and lots of girls. We pick a seat right infront of the shower and order up some beers. After a couple of mins, we notice the driver come in and sat next to us. We bought him a beer and chatted up for a bit. I then see this hot chica that was dancing next to us and I call her over. She was a lot of fun and energetic. We danced a bit in the club grinding and bumping. She excused herself for a bit and after 5 mins I was wondering WTF did she go. Then the lights dimmed and a stripper came out and yup, it was Karen.

She was a great dancer and stripper with a tight body. IMO, one of the best in the club. Even before that I had made up my mind to pull her for the night. After she was done, we left pretty much immediately. I paid the 300k and about 38k or so for the drinks. At the bar waiting for her to get dressed, I bump into a Colombiano that worked in Europe but lived half of the time in Colombia. We chatted up a bit about various places to hit and he mentioned Peirrar (sp?) and said the town is filled with beautiful women. He also mentioned Cali but we weren't planning on it this trip and I also explained my [CodeWord140] poor Spanish probably wouldn't fly there. We now had to find a girl for Ivan.

The driver took us to Venus but the quality was very bad. It was also full of guys which initially look intimidating but the light was so dim it really didn't matter. We left after 1 round of drinks and a bad strip show.

We then went to Casa Marina and there were only 5-6 girls chilling outside and no one inside. We shook our heads and Ivan decided that he would not take a chica home tonight. I had an excellent night with Karen whom was both young (18 yrs old) and fun. She'd be one of my best sessions in Colombia.

Day 3:

Next morning Karen got up quite early and I joined her on the balcony overlooking the ocean at around 8:30am. I got a great private Spanish lesson and talked for the next 3 hrs or so. She's from Medellin and described a lot of the city to me. At around 12, she leaves to join her sister and we leave to Riquisimo for lunch. We chill for a while and then went to castillo de San Felipe for a quick stroll. Being the gringo freaks that we are, we were approached by a random couple to pose for pictures with his wife/gf.

After the castle, we returned to change and shower and off we go to San Pedro Claver. This is a pretty nice restaurant and the hostest is pretty cute too. We made reservations for the next night since it was pretty much the only restaurant we'd consider good enough to enjoy dinner. We'd later find a few more restaurants in the area that was pretty decent but did not have a chance to try out.

At around 9:30, I called the driver from last night, Ever, to pick us up again tonight. He arrives and off we go chica hunting again. We hit casa Rocio first which was in the outskirts of the city in an average neighborhood. A few guys were sitting out on the steps infront of the house and it definitely felt weird pulling up to a place like this. We enter and there were a couple of chicas sitting to the left in a small lounge area and many many more in the backyard. This is just like a normal house except it's a brothel. A bunch of guys were already at the tables drinking and celebrating someone's birthday. We pull up a few chairs and began to examine the row of 15 girls all sitting in lawn chairs perfectly lined up against the wall.

My friend decides on a cute 20 yr old girl with BIG natural boobs. The normal price is 80k pesos for the house fine for the night and 200k for the girl. He manages to negociate it down to 100k for the girl even though his spanish is limited to numbers and some basic words. Good job! We then hit casa Marina and again the same 4 girls. I leave disappointed to Manila house. There were 4 girls and I call one over that looked petite and young but turns out she was approaching late 20s and did not look as cute close up. Her name was Sandra, blonde, and 27 yrs old. I had to reject her hard. Sorry, it's just business and you just don't do it for me.

Off we go to Chica Linda. This is definitely a place I would not feel comfortable by myself. It has the very ghetto feeling to it and not a big crowd nor a lot cute of girls. There were a decent number of girls, just that they weren't cute. The strip show was crappy but the driver knew the owner or something. Anyway, we had a drink and leave.

So not giving up, we went back to Casa Rocio AGAIN and it turned out to be a bad idea. At this time, all the girls are tired and few were milling around. She tried to hook me up with her friend but her friend was just too much of a typical bronx latina and I just didn't feel like flying 3000 miles to fuck a bronx latina. No pull tonight. So I'm here now, alone, on my bed and completely lost my voice writing in my journal. I think I caught a cold from one of the girls (kissing is bad! Bad!) and just talking too much for the last few days. Need rest, hope to regain voice and strength tomorrow.

Day 4:
Spent most of the day sleeping and resting. Sunbathed a little bit hoping to tan my pale face and chest. We had lunch at Riquisimo again. The steak is just not that good. I'm hoping Medellin would be much better. I took another nap in the afternoon and did not go out until the thunderstorm had passed in the late afternoon. It flooded AGAIN. Everyone said on the first day we got here that the streets were flooded b/c of some once in 10 year type of event but that was total bullshit. It rained and all the streets flooded again closing down half of the streets and making it a nightmare to drive through town. It took us nearly an hour to get from Laquito to Paseo Castellana. By the time we got to the mall, it was almost time to leave. We strolled around for an hour quite disappointed before going back to San Pedro Claver for dinner again. We noticed something odd. A very cute girl was having dinner by herself. No, we didn't try anything but probably should've. We thought we might have been able to proposition her as well but decided to behave.

Anyway, we hook up with Ever again and did the regular route again. We needed some money exchanged so he takes us to "El Coche" in Laguito that is open 24 hrs. The gates were down but a guy in there took our money through the little hole and came back with pesos. I don't mind black market cambios since I hate giving out passport and thumb prints for a few hundred bucks. Anyway, this time he offered up some girls for us and we took a look. We actually went to the place and it was just some regular home with family photos and the whole thing was really weird. Since these girls don't work in the clubs, they supposedly don't have as many customers and were "cleaner" than the pros. I guess these were semi-pros. I didn't take anyone because the whole thing just felt weird. In retrospect, it was dangerous for us to even go to such a place in the middle of the night in colombia out in the middle of no where. This apartment complex was like the projects in the Bronx and yet we went anyway.

Anyhow, went we to Casa Marina and it disappointed us yet again. 4 girls! WTF! We then went to a place called "Inter" which is a block away from Pleyboy and the place sucked. Even though there were 8 girls or so and some looked doable, they were not under the light. I did a chica interview but had to reject her as she looked old and busted under the light. We left to pleyboy once again. Here I found Veronica. A hot girl from Medellin that was probably the best looking girl I fucked for the whole trip. 19 yrs old, morena, tight body, great face, and confident composure. She is definitely my type of girl. I pulled her out for 300k. My #2 in Cartagena and both were from Medellin. I found that the best looking girls came from Medellin anyway so I was psyched to go to Medellin as our last leg of the trip. She is a very quiet girl but was decent in bed. I didn't care if she didn't say much. Her body was fuckin great! She later tell sme she has a kid that'd 3 years and there is no way in hell I'm believing that. That is one hell of a mom if she was telling me the truth. Anyway, she left around 10 the next morning.

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[James Zz]

dear all,

i cannot refrain from writing these short notes. i am just back to my room after a good day. my impression is different from the majority of reports i duly read before coming here. i can be here only for 2 days, unfortunately. i am trying to optimize my time here, choosing carefully where to spend my time.

i will be very brief.

1) ldv is nothing special. i suggest to avoid it! full of seasoned pros and mid-aged gringos. you may find a pearl here, but it is rare. if a girl is stunning, then she's used to wealthy gringos and then she will ask a lot of money. much better options all around.

2) day action is great. i am rather handsome and i look 35, maybe this helped. go to the beach, relax, drink a beer, hunt for (apparently) non-pros. avoid those who want to "help" you.

there are dozens of stunners on the beach. just be smart and approach those who smile at you. that's nothing original in this.

i just spent half a day with 3 very beautiful girls, looking almost ****, but all above 20yo. i payed drinks and a lunch for all four on the beach. we never talked about doing more, they apologized for me paying everything. so sweet! finally, i left with a dream of a life, for a hot 2 hours time at jaiva (see below). beautiful and sweet. what can i desire more?

price? voluntary! (i gave 170k, because she's sweet but not stupid and does need money for her life, otherwise she would not do this).

3) treat girls well! they are the sweetiest in the world. they deserve a gentleman, not a bad-manner, drunk, "cowboy".

if you are a gentleman, you'll be rewarded.

4) a 1-hour room? this is a good hint!

if you need a room, because your hotel is not chica friendly, i found something excellent: jaiva, at crespo. by taxi from bocagrande, it may cost 15k and 15 mins. listen: it cost 16k/hour, it is kind of luxury motel. yes, it is like that. they do not ask documents, total privacy.

very clean, well furnished, mirror, glass shower, etc.

how much did you pay for a room in el centro, in a crappy hotel? :-)

5) night action.

i would go for clubs in el centro. be careful: it may be dangerous walking in these streets at night. there is hungry people with knives around.

i went to giro matto. 20 outstanding girls for 7-8 guys, at 2.30am.

i was with a chica from ldv (the only apparently non-pro). girls even tried to approach me, while she went to the restroom.

in conclusion: cartagena is kind of pussy paradise. you cannot walk without falling in love every 5 minutes.

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ctg is gringo savy.

good looks. helps in every country.

a good colombian girl from a good family will never go to a short time hotel. 170k + 15k + 15k + drinks + food. over us $100 for short time = pro

you can get these beach girls, college students, "non pros ", etc 40.100k.

the only non pro in ldv. of course, she said so.

enjoy the vacation but also know things for what they really are.

gringo = $$.

[Black Page]

dear all,

i cannot refrain from writing these short notes. i am just back to my room after a good day. my impression is different from the majority of reports i duly read before coming here. i can be here only for 2 days, unfortunately. i am trying to optimize my time here, choosing carefully where to spend my time.

i will be very brief.

1) ldv is nothing special. i suggest to avoid it! full of seasoned pros and mid-aged gringos. you may find a pearl here, but it is rare. if a girl is stunning, then she's used to wealthy gringos and then she will ask a lot of money. much better options all around.

2) day action is great. i am rather handsome and i look 35, maybe this helped. go to the beach, relax, drink a beer, hunt for (apparently) non-pros. avoid those who want to "help" you.

there are dozens of stunners on the beach. just be smart and approach those who smile at you. that's nothing original in this.

i just spent half a day with 3 very beautiful girls, looking almost ****, but all above 20yo. i payed drinks and a lunch for all four on the beach. we never talked about doing more, they apologized for me paying everything. so sweet! finally, i left with a dream of a life, for a hot 2 hours time at jaiva (see below). beautiful and sweet. what can i desire more?

price? voluntary! (i gave 170k, because she's sweet but not stupid and does need money for her life, otherwise she would not do this).

3) treat girls well! they are the sweetiest in the world. they deserve a gentleman, not a bad-manner, drunk, "cowboy".

if you are a gentleman, you'll be rewarded.

4) a 1-hour room? this is a good hint!

if you need a room, because your hotel is not chica friendly, i found something excellent: jaiva, at crespo. by taxi from bocagrande, it may cost 15k and 15 mins. listen: it cost 16k/hour, it is kind of luxury motel. yes, it is like that. they do not ask documents, total privacy.

very clean, well furnished, mirror, glass shower, etc.

how much did you pay for a room in el centro, in a crappy hotel? :-)

5) night action.

i would go for clubs in el centro. be careful: it may be dangerous walking in these streets at night. there is hungry people with knives around.

i went to giro matto. 20 outstanding girls for 7-8 guys, at 2.30am.

i was with a chica from ldv (the only apparently non-pro). girls even tried to approach me, while she went to the restroom.

in conclusion: cartagena is kind of pussy paradise. you cannot walk without falling in love every 5 minutes.

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editor's note ii: due to a forum software problem, this report was not visible on the day it was originally posted last week. nevertheless, it's clearly a valuable report, so i have reposted it today to give it the prominence it deserves.

[Tom 33]

I just got back to CTG a little over a month ago after 4 months in the States. There apparently have been a lot of problems with the ATM(BBVA) near Yogen Fruz. [ATMs are not normally the highlight of local conversation.] I had dinner at the Hilton on Thanksgiving, and their ATM was out of service. But the food at the Hilton was pretty good.

I also use the ATM at Carulla, a grocery store that is open 24 hours. That machine give 400K per withdrawal. Davivienda gives 500K. The Bancolombia Group including Conavi gives 400K. Off hand I can think of 25 or so ATMs on the Bocagrande Penninsula that give 400K or more. Banco de Santander is the one that gives 200K.

[Artful]

The few girls I have picked up in Help over the years did TLN for R$ 150, i.e. the equivalent of COP 150,000 at the current exchange rate. Not all Help girls will accept this rate, of course... just like not all LDV chicks will go TLN for COP 150,000.

I think realistic prices are more like COP 150k for LDV and R$250 for Help these days. But I agree, I'm comparing very specific things and Rio offers much more variety and options. I'd still go to either place in a shot.

[El Austriaco]

Sweetlemon: accept your point, of course, that there's a massive variety of prices in both RIO and CTG. However, if you're looking for a beautiful girl that'll give a decent experience, LDV on average will be 30-40% cheaper than Help, which is the fairest comparison I can come up with

Based on my personal experience, I think that there is a LOT more variety of pricing in Rio than in CTG, at least insofar as places are concerned that are easy to reach and relatively safe to reach for tourists. Especially on the low end of the range.

The cheapest rates I have found for SWs in Cartagena were COP 40,000, and I have only run into a few SWs, and not all good ones. In Rio, I know at least 8-10 places with tons of girls where I can bang perfectly acceptable girls for less than ten bucks. In Rio, I know several mid-range places where I can bag a great girl for USD 50, roughly, but in Cartagena?

LDV/Help: they are similar insofar as setup is concerned and the type of girls they attract: hardcore hookers looking for inexperienced tourists who are easy bait and ready to overpay, sometimes grossly. Help garotas will try to squeeze whatever they can out of you, just like LDV chicks will. For me, the problem is that there are not really any very good alternatives to LDV in Cartagena, while in Rio, there are tons. I constantly read things like "Help is ground zero for the Rio nightlife action". BS. To tell you the truth, I don't really see any reason any more to go to Help to pick up girls in Rio. None whatsoever. Unfortunately, skipping LDV in Cartagena leaves you with preciously little viable alternatives, IMHO, P4P-wise.

The few girls I have picked up in Help over the years did TLN for R$ 150, i.e. the equivalent of COP 150,000 at the current exchange rate. Not all Help girls will accept this rate, of course... just like not all LDV chicks will go TLN for COP 150,000. Personally, I think that pricing-wise, they are roughly (very roughly) the same: with the caveat, of course, that with Help attracting at least 5 times as many girls on any given night and up to 10 times as many during carnaval, there will be much more variety of pricing (and quality), too, of course.

My two cents for today,

EA

[Artful]

Artful, thanks for the excellent report. I hope you had a chance to check out Giro Matto in el centro.

I thought I'd followed up my earlier report with another report on some of the other options in CTG, but either a) I was drunk (very possible) or b) the system screwed up (less possible), but anyway it didn't seem to post, so here goes for a second time.

I've been to CTG 4 or 5 times in total and have become less dependant upon LDV. LDV still features in most if not all of my nights, but not necessarily the highlight. Here's a rundown of the non-LDV options. Apologies, but I'm not that good at remembering prices.

1) Giro Matto, as mentioned by Sean EZ above. The favoured option after 3am. As Sean says, it's the venue LDV girls go when it closes, and it's a more relaxed, less transactional atmosphere. I have to admit, I AM WITHOUT FAIL annihilated by the time I reach here, which probably contribute to the consistently good time I have. Prices are probably lower. To be honest, I think probably only 1/3 of the girls there are LDV regulars...I don't really know where the others come from, but 85.6% of them are available. ' Giro Matto is a club, with relentless electronic/techno playing, so if you can't tolerate this, maybe this place is not for you.

2) La Triplaterra, Mr Bimboa....(there's one or two others, I can't remember their names I'm afraid). These are bars located in Centro. They're decent pre-midnight options. If you accept that the best experiences usually don't come from the stunners (all experienced mongers will agree with this) then you'll be happy here. Not to say they're mingers coz they're not, I've seen one or two 9/10s in there, but a higher average is found in LDV, but IMO they're more friendly here. The girls that go to these places on the whole don't go to LDV, so when you've been 3 nights in a row to LDV and people start shouting your name as soon as you walk-in in true 'Cheers' style, pay these places a visit.

3) Pleyboy. I wasn't really impressed by Pleyboy. I've been to several casas, and although it's head and shoulders above the rest in CTG, it doesn't really compare well with the Termas in Rio. Actually, it doesn't even come close to the Termas in Rio. Prices weren't good, esp when compared with the options above, which are usually for TLN if you know what you're doing.

4) Casas. I went to several over one or two days. They were all really grim IMHO. Cheap options, but not offering what I'm looking for: quality girls, and a party atmosphere. Will suit those looking for a quick bang.

5) Daytime options. For me, a shy retiring Englishman, CTG is hard work during the day. 75% of the time tho, there's been an LDV girl hanging around from the night before, which has suited me fine. A couple of occasions tho, I've kept numbers from girls I met at the casas, and called them during the day. I don't mean to be disparaging, but my experience with casa girls is that they're less wordly-wise than their LDV counter-parts which equates to lower prices. They also tend to be a bit starry-eyed in the presence of gringos and a couple of times have gotten quite attached to. I should point out that I am gorgeous, which might explain this. <joke>

Sweetlemon: accept your point, of course, that there's a massive variety of prices in both RIO and CTG. However, if you're looking for a beautiful girl that'll give a decent experience, LDV on average will be 30-40% cheaper than Help, which is the fairest comparison I can come up with.

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[Artful]

Artful, thanks for the excellent report. I hope you had a chance to check out Giro Matto in el centro.

I thought I'd followed up my earlier report with another report on some of the other options in CTG, but either a) I was drunk (very possible) or b) the system screwed up (less possible), but anyway it didn't seem to post, so here goes for a second time.

I've been to CTG 4 or 5 times in total and have become less dependant upon LDV. LDV still features in most if not all of my nights, but not necessarily the highlight. Here's a rundown of the non-LDV options. Apologies, but I'm not that good at remembering prices.

1) Giro Matto, as mentioned by Sean EZ above. The favoured option after 3am. As Sean says, it's the venue LDV girls go when it closes, and it's a more relaxed, less transactional atmosphere. I have to admit, I AM WITHOUT FAIL annihilated by the time I reach here, which probably contribute to the consistently good time I have. Prices are probably lower. To be honest, I think probably only 1/3 of the girls there are LDV regulars...I don't really know where the others come from, but 85.6% of them are available. ' Giro Matto is a club, with relentless electronic/techno playing, so if you can't tolerate this, maybe this place is not for you.

2) La Triplaterra, Mr Bimboa....(there's one or two others, I can't remember their names I'm afraid). These are bars located in Centro. They're decent pre-midnight options. If you accept that the best experiences usually don't come from the stunners (all experienced mongers will agree with this) then you'll be happy here. Not to say they're mingers coz they're not, I've seen one or two 9/10s in there, but a higher average is found in LDV, but IMO they're more friendly here. The girls that go to these places on the whole don't go to LDV, so when you've been 3 nights in a row to LDV and people start shouting your name as soon as you walk-in in true 'Cheers' style, pay these places a visit.

3) Pleyboy. I wasn't really impressed by Pleyboy. I've been to several casas, and although it's head and shoulders above the rest in CTG, it doesn't really compare well with the Termas in Rio. Actually, it doesn't even come close to the Termas in Rio. Prices weren't good, esp when compared with the options above, which are usually for TLN if you know what you're doing.

4) Casas. I went to several over one or two days. They were all really grim IMHO. Cheap options, but not offering what I'm looking for: quality girls, and a party atmosphere. Will suit those looking for a quick bang.

5) Daytime options. For me, a shy retiring Englishman, CTG is hard work during the day. 75% of the time tho, there's been an LDV girl hanging around from the night before, which has suited me fine. A couple of occasions tho, I've kept numbers from girls I met at the casas, and called them during the day. I don't mean to be disparaging, but my experience with casa girls is that they're less wordly-wise than their LDV counter-parts which equates to lower prices. They also tend to be a bit starry-eyed in the presence of gringos and a couple of times have gotten quite attached to. I should point out that I am gorgeous, which might explain this. <joke>

Sweetlemon: accept your point, of course, that there's a massive variety of prices in both RIO and CTG. However, if you're looking for a beautiful girl that'll give a decent experience, LDV on average will be 30-40% cheaper than Help, which is the fairest comparison I can come up with.

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[Junkyard]

Hello Everyone,

Before I get into the story, I'll express my experiences at ATM's while there since it seems to be a hot topic. I am only stating what happened to me and I'm not intending to offend anyone.

I wish I would of known about the ATM at the Hilton. I always ended up using the ATM next to the Frozen Yogurt shop in el Laguito. Half the time it didn't print out a receipt, and it was broken for 3 days of my trip. The maximum take is 300K.

I ended up walking around Bocagrande and found a few more ATMs. One with a 200K limit, and another with a 300K. There was one day where I really needed to get money and the Frozen Yogurt one was broken, and the other 300K one in Bocagrande was out. And at the 200K bank only one machine worked! Granted it was my first trip there, it was frusterating. I finally found another machine farther in Bocagrande that worked. And BTW, even though I told my credit union I was going to Colombia they blocked my card on day 6. I haven't had the time to ask them why, just an FYI. I ended up using my backup for the last 4 days of the trip.

Ok, back to the fun! That night my the american friend and I checked out Tripletera in el centro. We got there around 11:30pm and the place had about 20 girls. The best was maybe a 7.5. No real stunners. We decided to stay for 45 minutes and watch the fun. There was loud club music and all the girls seemed to be having a good time. I asked a waiter (who looked and acted like a regular customer) if all the girls here are working. He said yes. It also cost 10K to enter. I did talk to one girl that caught my eye. I screened her and bought her a drink. Because of my trip to Cocolisco earlier in the trip, my back was itching. I asked her to scratch it and she refused! I couldn't believe it. She said something about this being a disco club. Whatever that means. It turned me off so bad I left her sitting on the couch. A few minutes later my friend and I left to go to Ysis.

We get to Ysis and it's a smaller club. As usual we are the only gringos there. We end up talking to a few girls. They end up having kids (we wanted to have girls with no kids tonight) so we decided to check out Pleyboy.

We went to Pleyboy and I was unimpressed. I was there earlier in my trip, but this time it had maybe 10 - 15 girls. I expected to see great looking girls but I all I saw was maybe an 8 here and there. We stayed for 10 minutes, but we both agreed we didn't like the atmosphere and the women. My friend had an idea. He told the cab driver to run around el centro and find some working street girls. So we did.

After 15 minutes of this it was clear no good ones were to be found, so we went back to Tripltera. Same girls, same story. So we went to Ysis. My friend found a girl he wanted. After 20 minutes talking to her, she wanted 400K for all night. He refused. I found a girl with a great body, but ok face. She didn't have kids so I bit. She wanted 200K. I told her 150K. She said ok but with a tip. I told her yes if I liked her. I had to pay the money to the bar and not her. My friend ended up going to LDV that night. He got there around 3pm and said it was excellent and got a nice lady who likes it in the ass.

One thing all people tell me is trust your instincts. The chica I took home had a semi-bad attitude. She performed well in the sack, no BBBJ. Did I mension she had a great body? But overall attitude I didn't like. I told her if I liked her I'd give her a tip. After it was done I didn't ger her one. She blurted something in Spanish about me never going back to Ysis then left the apartment. That's two girls now leaving mad. Probably just newbie learning.

The next day I decided to call up the chica I had from Venus my second day. She is a 7.5, but the best attitude I've seen so far. I'll post a picture of her soon. Sex whenever I wanted, and a great attitude the whole time. We went to go to the San Felipe castle, too. With her I had a realization. I never used to look forward to BJ's. It was because no one was doing them right.

She stayed all night and left the next morning. The all night takeout fee at Venus is 80K, and I paid her 220K on top of that. I know I could of got away with less, but I liked her and I'm sure she could use it.

For my last trip, I called a taxi driver from before and told him to pick me up at 8:30pm. To my surprise he came at 8:20. Because of broken through plans, my american friend came too. I had 700K in my pocket and was ready to have some fun. Our first stop: Casa de Marino.

I was still debating whether to get several girls, or get one for all night. We get to Casa De Marino at about 9pm. No guys, and about 8 or 9 girls. We sit by ourselves at a table and try to figure out which one we want, if any. I saw the girl I had before but I wanted variety. Two girls caught my eye and I got the taxi driver to get one of them over. She looked good, but told me she had one child. I wanted a stunner, so she left to do something and I called the other one over. If she wouldn't of left, I would of had to reject her somehow. What's the best way? This new girl was hot. I have one picture of her and it doesn't do her justice. I ended up paying the house fee of 130K plus 200K to bring her home for an all nighter. My american friend is more money conscious. He picked another girl and got her down to 130 + 150 after some bargaining. Next trip I'll dedicate a night to haggling.

She was hungry so we stopped by a gas station to pick up some food. Now picture this. A hot colombian girl dressed up like a stripper and a gringo in a mini food mart in a gas station. Priceless. I get her back and we drink some rum and hang out on the balcony. She was great but she was a little sensitive in her breasts. I never got a BJ from her, but then again I never asked (they always just give it to you). Overall I'd give her an attitude of a 7.

The next morning I left early for my flight to Bogata. I didn't realize that in Colombia you only need to get to your flight 60-90 minutes early. Not 150 minutes. They literally told me to wait around for 80 minutes then come back. Remember to have your 80K to leave the country.

That's it. Thanks to everyone with their experiences and advice. Overall I had a great experience and I'm coming back. Send me a message if you want any details on my 3 reports.

Junkyard

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[MJG Dogs]

Gee I wonder why you are still there. I would think you would rather be in The United States of America, where the women are pasty,fat and think you own them not just something, but everything. God I know the weather must be awful in CTG also, I mean you can be in Green Bay in Janurary and have better climate. I bet you would sacrifice the hot colombianas for an opportunity to hang out at the local Bowling alley.

All kidding aside, some people Tom do not have the ability to evaluate data in front of them and make a decision or have a mild discomfort in Cartagena and you would think all hell had broken loose. So an ATM does not work, BFD.....

[Tom 33]

Hey guys, we can't confuse Sweetie with the facts. I guess he can't find the Hilton or read. And cajero automatico(o ah-te-emay) is pretty hard to pronounce.

I have lived in Laguito for 4 years. The ATM by Yogen Fruz has failed to function for me maybe 4 times in 4 years. That has been my primary ATM. I have to walk about 40 yards to get there. The Hilton is maybe 70 yards in the other direction. But there is no 5-star restaurant between my building and the ATM.

Why am I still here?