General Reports

[Fredje1961]

I went online and chatted with few girls. One of the a virgin from Phillinpines (saw a picture, she really looked like a virgin). True or not, she was really fun to talk to. Second one was a dh working in HK. Much older then me, nice to talk to, but will not pursue. Another one was around my age, good looking, and she was fun to chat with. I think I will pursue that.

How do I make it clear that I just want fun? I'm not married, but not looking for relationship. They all ask if I have a gf, the usual … How do you work around that? Or am I chatting with the wrong girl?

Cheers.

Maybe tell them that the way your life is organized, doesn't allow you to settle down yet (e. G. Frequent travelling, maybe kids from a previous marriage etc) but that you still need a hug and a cuddle from time to time

Most will be ready to provide you with that much needed cuddle.

[BionicMan]

Not sure if I am in agreement with Bionicman but I think he means that the sauna packages gives you the basics, return ferry tickets, choice of a gal (which sometimes can be limited) and the use of the sauna overnight to eat, sleep, etc.
I don't use the washgals to five me a semi-BJ, model/East European, etc. so the basic package is usually adequate for me. You can always upgrade anyway. its like ordering a hamburger at a diner, you have options of what you want with it and pay accordingly. What you do get by buying a package is the savings of the cost of the ferry tickets?
Also when you enter the sauna, I don't think you can leave and go back in so do everything else you want to do in Macau and go the the sauna last.

Correct Bob, you actually hit my point (not expecting everyone agrees with me, though!)
The way I was understanding the package seemed a great deal and wondering why not 100% of the people ferrying to Macau are not using it.
Having experienced the saunas, cost of ferry that I paid separately (I could not actually bill the company for the ferry-sauna package! lol) I understood where the deal was.
It does not mean it is a bad deal. But a newbie might think to get more that what is in the package as there are quite some grey areas: exact type of service you get, no choice of girls etc.
For instance at Rio a Shangai massage is "nothing" else than
a) girl cannot be chosen
b) girl stayed dressed with top and hotpants
c) time length is 90 minues (and one says..wowww!)
d) includes oil massage and hand job (happy ending)
cost is relatively cheaper than the soapie of course, but in the soapie you get to select the girl amongst a line up of well over 40-50, full nude massage, FS (=one pop), all in 1 hr.
But one can also have a cheaper option such as "thigh massage".

Of course upgrade are always possible, but those will kind of step up the budget one had in mind when booking the package.
Just like you get a good price for a meal and then you find out it includes only one glass of soft drink. But the glass is half a bottle size. Inevitably you upgrade and the price goes up and...the expected cost goes up, unexpectedly.
It is a bit the fully legitimate trick they set: attract the customer, then try to sell more.

You gave also a good warning on not making "in" and "out" from the same sauna.
There is always a minimum fee in each location. If you buy services for that or above, the minimum fee will be waved against the actual purchase.
But if you buy less, then the minimum fee applies.
The "clock" is zeroed everytime you leave the premises and settle your bill.
Again, all clear and legitimate, but one better know how it works.
I am going to Macau fora few days so the package option does not apply in my case, but even if I'd be in a position of an overnight I still prefer the freedom of buy the ferry separate and be free to go where I wish, get the services I wish and so.

[Loveasia77]

Thanks Sky, I will try that and see how it works out. For some reason, I always end up with another girlfriend.

Me on the other hand, I just find ones I like and buy them a ticket out of town.....kind of defeats the purpose doesn't it....
Sky

You can never have too much of good karma

[On The Road]

Bad and good experience in the last few hours, in HK.

Tonite I made all the newbie mistakes in Wan Chai, so I had a bad experience.
Mistake 1: Went to Wan Chai very late (2.30 am), and made my choice too late (5.30 am);
Mistake 2: I drunk a little bit to much;
Mistake 3: I was after all the stunners in the area, and refused some solid 8/10;
Mistake 4: At the end, I went with a black girl, when I knew that in Asia you should with asians (and I'm really into asian gals!). The girl was a 25yo from Angola, working name Jennifer, slim, looks younger than all the black girl I saw in the area. If you met her, run away!
Mistake 5: I choose a girl that talked about money after 2 minutes of chatting;
Mistake 6: I paid her in advance. I really know it's a very strong mistake, but even if an alarm bell rang in my head, I paid her before... Really bad choice.
Well, as you can suppose, my negotiation of 2h, 2 pops, massage and everything soon became a 20m rushed session.

On the other side, thus afternoon I went to the famous 37d.
No line up was shown to me, only one girl but she was a 7/10 even if not very young (late 20s or maybe 30s...) so I accepted. No english spoken.
I had a good session, shower, bbbjcim, fs (even bbfs was offered, but of course I declined). 2 pops.
Nothing really special, but a good 50 minutes session for 490hk$.

For something really special, maybe tonite I'll take the boat to Macau, direct to Senado or one other sauna...

[Sky Ryder]

I went online and chatted with few girls. One of the a virgin from Phillinpines (saw a picture, she really looked like a virgin). True or not, she was really fun to talk to. Second one was a dh working in HK. Much older then me, nice to talk to, but will not pursue. Another one was around my age, good looking, and she was fun to chat with. I think I will pursue that.

How do I make it clear that I just want fun? I'm not married, but not looking for relationship. They all ask if I have a gf, the usual … How do you work around that? Or am I chatting with the wrong girl?

Cheers.

Loveasia,

I am no expert, but if I were approached with this issue I think I would tell the truth, but hedge my bets a little. Something like, " I don't have a girl friend right now, but I need to be sure someone is the right person before I make that commitment."
This gives the impression that more is possible, but it won't happen overnight. It also creates "incentive" for them to be nice to you, etc. I wouldn't look at it as false pretenses either, since who knows, maybe you would want one as a girlfriend in the future. Hey, stranger things have happened right?
Me on the other hand, I just find ones I like and buy them a ticket out of town.....kind of defeats the purpose doesn't it....
You know what they say about free advice......
Enjoy the ride!

Sky

[Bob Builder]

Thanks, but can anyone help with the rest of my questions?

Not sure if I am in agreement with Bionicman but I think he means that the sauna packages gives you the basics, return ferry tickets, choice of a gal (which sometimes can be limited) and the use of the sauna overnight to eat, sleep, etc.

I don't use the washgals to five me a semi-BJ, model/East European, etc. so the basic package is usually adequate for me. You can always upgrade anyway. its like ordering a hamburger at a diner, you have options of what you want with it and pay accordingly. What you do get by buying a package is the savings of the cost of the ferry tickets?

Also when you enter the sauna, I don't think you can leave and go back in so do everything else you want to do in Macau and go the the sauna last.

[Loveasia77]

I went online and chatted with few girls. One of the a virgin from Phillinpines (saw a picture, she really looked like a virgin). True or not, she was really fun to talk to. Second one was a dh working in HK. Much older then me, nice to talk to, but will not pursue. Another one was around my age, good looking, and she was fun to chat with. I think I will pursue that.

How do I make it clear that I just want fun? I'm not married, but not looking for relationship. They all ask if I have a gf, the usual … How do you work around that? Or am I chatting with the wrong girl?

Cheers.

[Gren62]

2. So I guess it'd be easy to take a cab from the airport to my hotel. So, I need to find a hotel...I'm not sure of the prices there, but I'm sure it's more expensive than BKK...so I'd be looking for somethign equivalent to the Dynasty Grande which I think is either a 3 or 4 star hotel....in BKK it's about $60 bucks a night..maybe I have to pay more in HK?? Also, I think I read where a lot of the bars are in Wanchai? Is this a good place to stay and can you recommend any hotels equivalent to say the $50 to 70 range in BKK?

I agree with Michi. Everything in HK is at least 2-3 times more expensive than BKK. A 4-star HK hotel will be over $100 USD, bottle of beer $7 USD, and freelancer from Wanchai can be $130 for ST. In BKK, ST with a freelancer is about $30!

Wanchai is a good area to stay though. It's very tourist friendly and convenient. Most importantly, that's where the red light district is! Don't expect it to be like Soi Cowboy or Pattaya though. Unlike during the Vietnam War and prior, the red light area is only a small part of Wanchai.

[Redfield10]

Thanks, but can anyone help with the rest of my questions?

If you stay in Macau for an ovdrnight only it is not worth to take an hotel.

HK ferry terminals offers packages of ferry+sauna, but mind you that the sauna package has - according to my knowledge - a sort of limited package. You will be tempted for extras so at the end you end up in not paying what you planned., It is not as you wil be ripped off, but it is like a meal price with appetizers and main course but no dessert and drinks..... Good but not a full meal as one would expect.

It goes without saying that to get all infos on Macau you should RTFF of Macau!

[BionicMan]

5. Is there a good way to "do the ferry" to Macau....?? I've read where one can walk down and get a deal at the termina that includes a sauna or two. Is that a good way to do it or is it better to go just on my own and get a hotel and go from there..??

Any other info would be appreciated...it's kind of like the first time in BKK.

If you stay in Macau for an ovdrnight only it is not worth to take an hotel.

HK ferry terminals offers packages of ferry+sauna, but mind you that the sauna package has - according to my knowledge - a sort of limited package. You will be tempted for extras so at the end you end up in not paying what you planned., It is not as you wil be ripped off, but it is like a meal price with appetizers and main course but no dessert and drinks..... Good but not a full meal as one would expect.

It goes without saying that to get all infos on Macau you should RTFF of Macau!

[Fedora]

Went twice to the sauna on level B3 in the Regal Kowloon hotel (Kobe Sauna) and had very good experiences each visit. I should add: I am not used to HK saunas, this was my first visit to HK and so have no basis for comparison with similar establishments.

The place looks very upscale, like a nice spa; the two girls I had sessions with were both good looking (7-8/10) and provided excellent service (BBBJ and as much sex as you want for 90 min); for someone not used to this setup, the experience was interesting.

I was greeted by a hostess who suggested I take ‘full service 90 min’. Price was 1770hk dollars. She led me into the changing room – which was strange, by my standards. Two men helped me undress. Took my jeans, my socks, my underwear, and shirt and hang it all neatly in a closet for me. I ended up in a robe and was show into a shower. After shower, they dried my feet, gave me new dry slippers and put some black silk boxers on me (one man literally put them on me!).

I was then showed into a waiting room with comfortable chairs, where a host came to me with a laptop computer. Both times I was given a choice of 6 girls – the pictures on the computer were heavily photoshopped, but basically accurate in both cases. The man showing me the pictures told me a bit about each of the 6 girls – their main assets, skill level, service level, and in both cases I went with his recommendations. The first girl I chose, (just remember her number, 101), was a Chinese girl who had only worked for a few weeks, very pretty with nice breasts. The second was a Thai girl, May, who was gorgeous, tall, and extremely skilled.

From the waiting room, into the massage room – those rooms were okay, but small and nothing special. In each case, the girl asked if I wanted massage first. I said ‘no, first sex, then massage.’ That was fine. Both gave bbbj, one of them did the hot – cold bbbj routine – I fucked both of them in many different positions around the room: on top, bent over the bench, standing along the wall – both performed very well. Lots of sound effects, faked orgasms, nice pussy squeezing of cock, one kept saying ‘I love you, I love you’ (I think she mean to say ‘I love it’). In both cases, I came after about 45 min. Wasn’t interested in anything more and so said I would leave. That made them very concerned and I had to promises to say to the manager that there wasn’t anything wrong with the service – otherwise they would be in trouble. When I came out, the manager immediately asked whether something was wrong and I had to resassure him. They are definitely trained to please for the full 90min.

[Tony Toro]

Hi,

A regular visitor to HK, done and loved Hari's, been to Sticky Fingers, Trafffik, Neptune etc. Share everyone's disappointment that Fenwicks is no more. Issue with the land lord and their liquor license.

Have a major preference for Korean, Japanese girls. Occasionally Mongolian when they have that "look". Seems very hard to find in Wan Chai, occasionally I get lucky in Hari's.

Can you please recommend any alternatives?

[Michi]

1. Since it looks like Air Asia has a flight from BKK to HK early Monday Nov. 2 and returning on Friday. I was thinking of flying then. However, maybe it'd be better to fly Tuesday morning and return on Saturday.

What do you think? Will the BKK and HK airports be so packed on Monday mornings and Fridays that I'd be sgnificantly better off doing Tues. And coming back Saturday?

2. So I guess it'd be easy to take a cab from the airport to my hotel. So, I need to find a hotel. I'm not sure of the prices there, but I'm sure it's more expensive than BKK. So I'd be looking for somethign equivalent to the Dynasty Grande which I think is either a 3 or 4 star hotel. In BKK it's about $60 bucks a night. Maybe I have to pay more in HK? Also, I think I read where a lot of the bars are in Wanchai? Is this a good place to stay and can you recommend any hotels equivalent to say the $50 to 70 range in BKK?

2a. Can you give m ore info such as directions, etc. To Hop Yee building and any other "must do" places?

3. I guess I'd like to maybe stay either 3 nights in HK and the final in Macau or else do 2 HK, 1 Macau, 1 HK. Any advice on that?

4. If I did stay in macau, any advice on hotels in samequality range as above with strategic location near girls, etc?

5. Is there a good way to "do the ferry" to Macau.? I've read where one can walk down and get a deal at the termina that includes a sauna or two. Is that a good way to do it or is it better to go just on my own and get a hotel and go from there.?

Any other info would be appreciated. It's kind of like the first time in BKK.

My advice would be that if you are in Bangkok already, better stay there.

The Thai girls are more and cheaper.

For Filipina better go to Manila or AC on a direct flight with Cebu Pacific and enjoy there.

For cinese. Ok, but from my experience 141 isn't worth it anyway, just go in, blow off, go out (good thing is you can go almost ANY time). Sauna would be the only reason for me to show up in HK, but thats also not superior to BKK from my point of view.

Hotels are better in BKK in the low cost area. HK cheap places I never enjoy.

Summary: I would save the money.

[Redfield10]

1. Since it looks like Air Asia has a flight from BKK to HK early Monday Nov. 2 and returning on Friday....I was thinking of flying then..however, maybe it'd be better to fly Tuesday morning and return on Saturday..

What do you think?? Will the BKK and HK airports be so packed on Monday mornings and Fridays that I'd be sgnificantly better off doing Tues. and coming back Saturday?

2. So I guess it'd be easy to take a cab from the airport to my hotel. So, I need to find a hotel...I'm not sure of the prices there, but I'm sure it's more expensive than BKK...so I'd be looking for somethign equivalent to the Dynasty Grande which I think is either a 3 or 4 star hotel....in BKK it's about $60 bucks a night..maybe I have to pay more in HK?? Also, I think I read where a lot of the bars are in Wanchai? Is this a good place to stay and can you recommend any hotels equivalent to say the $50 to 70 range in BKK?

2a. Can you give m ore info such as directions, etc. to Hop Yee building and any other "must do" places?

3. I guess I'd like to maybe stay either 3 nights in HK and the final in Macau or else do 2 HK, 1 Macau, 1 HK..any advice on that?

4. If I did stay in macau, any advice on hotels in samequality range as above with strategic location near girls, etc?

5. Is there a good way to "do the ferry" to Macau....?? I've read where one can walk down and get a deal at the termina that includes a sauna or two. Is that a good way to do it or is it better to go just on my own and get a hotel and go from there..??

Any other info would be appreciated...it's kind of like the first time in BKK.

[Okinomi]

So I went out for a quiet one last night and bumped into an old friend out on the town. Well, as usual, it got messy and I was three sheets to the wind by midnight.

We went into Amazonia and I was pleasently surprised at the general quality and interest in there. A couple of LB's there when we first got in, but they soon went because they stood out like a couple of dogs bollocks and no one was paying any attention to them.

The rest of the clientele was mostly Filipino, with a few western girls in there enjoying the band.

We played with the girls a bit, but nothing serious, then went off to Boracays, which is next to the 7-11 on Luard Rd. Downstairs was a real kick back to the Big Apple days, very little has changed inside either for that matter.

Played with a few girls there, got fleeced for a drink, then the bill came and it was $140. So I asked, "for one drink, what the fuck is in it?" "no sir two drinks, cocktail and tequila" well, the tequila went back and I fucked her off with her 'cocktail'.

Next stop was Neptunes II which was heaving with all kinds of specimins. Always reminds me of the bar scene in Star Wars with slightly less violence, but only slightly. Nothing really interested me there, so I went out and into Traffik for a looksee.

Reasonably busy, but not too packed which I kind of like. I walked past the cutest thing in a red dress on my way to get a drink and she was still there when I walked back, so bam, that was it, lust at first sight. I have a thing for Vietnamese girls (and Japanese) and she was just lovely. 19 years old, 5'0", slim, sexy dress and very pretty. Am I just gullible or what?

So HK$1000 was agreed and orf we went back to my place. Now it is worth mentioning here that this was for what I thought was LT, but was later to establish that it was in her mind only for ST. Language differences? maybe, but probably not. Vietnamese are lovely, but extremely business wise.

Back to my place, which proves I was pissed (English pissed) because I don't do that normally especially with the gestapo security guards on the door. However, my conscience was past giving a toss by now and I stared the guard down as I walked past him with a dirty smirk on my face. I do hope he was thinking, "lucky bastard", because she was exquisite.

She was very responsive when we got upstairs and we had very pleasant GF sex for about 30 - 45 mins, by which time I was FUBAR and ready for a sleep. I'll do her in the morning I'm thinking. Think again, as she went into the shower, got dressed and set off into the night, no doubt for more punting.

Anyway, it wasn't the best experience I've ever had, but I'd see her again sober and really make up for the last one with a vengeance.

Now, what to do tonight?

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