South China - Shenzhen

[Yellow Fever #2]

Am a newbie to this forum. Am travelling to shenzhen in October.

Can anybody provide me some links to newbie with locations, prices, and other information?

Aren't you the lucky guy. Why don't you RTFF?

I hope you are coming to Shenzhen from October 1 until October 7. It is carnival time, there are massive parades and fireworks in the streets every night.

The China national day holidays are a great time of celebration. This year is the 60th anniversary of People Republic of China.

To celebrate this great achievement, the local Shenzhen government has declared that all prostitutes must give their service for free during this period and this will be strictly enforced by the police. Tips for exceptional service are acceptable, however the majority of the 'fees' for prostitute will be subsidized by the government. Each hotel room will be given a ration of 2 'pros' per registered guest per night. All hotels are required to have a minimum of 3 prostitutes for every 10 rooms. The prostitute complaint telephone hotline will be activated before the end of September. Sometimes authoritarian governments are good to the people!

You should book your hotel early as space is limited.

I'm counting the days and saving my pennies for the National Day holidays.

[Zsigmond]

Am a newbie to this forum. Am travelling to shenzhen in October.

Can anybody provide me some links to newbie with locations, prices, and other information?

[Fast Eddie 48]

nothing notable by anyone within Futian or Lowu? not those two chain sushi places w/ the coupons. they are kinda funky watered down cuisine places for the uninitiated. (thx)

Kabukicho,

The japanese fusions resturant in the Coastal mall is new on L 5 open about 6 month ago ,it is the largest in Shenzhen and very expensive ,in the same level is tasty buffet one of the largest and most expensive in town also .the mall is located in Nanshan near beihai rd and Huihai rd.

www.coastalcity.com.cn

Fast Eddie 48

[Kabukicho]

I'm assuming "sushi restaurant" is not some mongering code for something else. The biggest one I have seen is in the Coastal Shopping Centre (I think that is the name of the place) in Nan Sha. Don't know its name.

Nothing notable by anyone within Futian or Lowu? not those two chain sushi places w/ the coupons. They are kinda funky watered down cuisine places for the uninitiated. (thx)

[MegaPoint]

GangXia area was shut down last night 9/9 by 300 police in a raid with 50 people under investigation. The police raided massage rooms, BBS, Fake invoice sellers, and internet cafes more details in the Chinese SZ news. Bit of a worry as GangXia area was well off the radar and don't think many people would know it that well and unless you are a true looks like there could be action there explorer type, you would never find the shops, apart from the subway exit one. They were mostly deep in the side streets and only for the brave, I did find and try a few but nothing worth noting in the forum. Of course I have noticed another quiet spot get busy the last few weeks as the main ones close down so maybe the action had picked up lately.
Take care Guys

Only two and a half weeks to October 1. Can you hear "The March of the Volunteers" in the background? Dah-t'-da!-da!- Daaaah- da!

[Jamie5063]

GangXia area was shut down last night 9/9 by 300 police in a raid with 50 people under investigation. The police raided massage rooms, BBS, Fake invoice sellers, and internet cafes more details in the Chinese SZ news. Bit of a worry as GangXia area was well off the radar and don't think many people would know it that well and unless you are a true looks like there could be action there explorer type, you would never find the shops, apart from the subway exit one. They were mostly deep in the side streets and only for the brave, I did find and try a few but nothing worth noting in the forum. Of course I have noticed another quiet spot get busy the last few weeks as the main ones close down so maybe the action had picked up lately.
Take care Guys

[Yellow Fever #2]

YF, I'm bored as hell living in Shekou area, wondering if you could give me some directions as to where BSZ is at? Would you say hang a right after coming out of Crowne Plaza or hang a left? I might as well try to check it out during the nights and if there are any action, I'll post a report if there is.

Thanks buddy

Everyone, any taxi or bus driver will know where BaiShiZhou is. From Shekou is it the bus stop before the Crowne Plaza.

Bai Shi Zhou is on BOTH sides of Shennan Road. The south side does not have any BBS. The north side does (same side as crowne plaza).

You can enter nearby the Holiday Plaza, just past the newly built lego looking buildings. I'd recommend that you go to the BSZ KFC (Kentucky Fried Chicken) and walk down that road (I think it is called Sha He Jie), it is a busy road with buses taxis etc and walk maybe 400m to the JiangNanBaiHuo department store. If you come after dark, there are alot of street food vendors here, buy some street bar b q. Walk this short street with street vendors until the first right (after the fruit store). There should be a BBS in the small street to the right on the LEFT HAND SIDE. If the metal gate is shuttered it is closed. There may be girls or a mommy in this lane. This should be your starting point. There were very few if any BBS north of the Jiangnanbaihuo.

If there is nothing here you can continue your sightseeing by walking straight ahead and checking the small lanes to the left of the right.

Have fun, try to find the BBSs. I hope you get lucky. I hope you can find the used furniture street, several market streets, 4 or 5 washing pits. In better times you would easily find at least 20BBS spread out around the area.

Remember don't wear your finest clothes or shoes. Have fun and enjoy the area but always remember where you came from so you can escape if you need to. I always felt safe in this area but you are in a busy dodgy village. It is nowhere close to Slumdog Millionaire bad but it is among the closest to that that you can find in Shenzhen. The area is changing and as reported by others will be bulldozed and redeveloped in the coming years.

If I get the chance, I will try to make a map of the (former) BBSs in BSZ.

Bai Shi Zhou is not amazing, it was just convenient for me in the past, but as a sort of bell weather, it just shows how dry Shenzhen is becoming. There should be mongering in BSZ, it is a very densely populated area. Time to leave China for greener pastures.

BSZ will never be a mongering paradise but it should be a fun evening of adventure. You will not find much english spoken here but that makes it part of the fun. Lots of decent local restaurants and very cheap hotels and guest houses in this area.

You could also try DaChong, which is the area closer to Shekou one bus stop to the west. It has perhaps 10 BBS spread in its alleys. In my opinion BSZ was better.

Have fun.

Yellow Fever

[Sharka]

2 police dogs (german shepards) and a paddy wagon. I wonder what the dogs were for...looking for drugs maybe?

EB

No, I had a friend who was a cop before retiring. Dogs are for intimidation of people. Seems some people will be more afraid of the dogs than the cops themselves, also with the dogs the size of the people won't matter as dogs can bring down anyone and if you tried to run--forget about it.

Shark

[James Khoa]

I used to live adjacent to the Crowne Plaza and was a frequent lurker in BaiShiZhou. I have not mongered there for about 2 months. On the recent trip this Saturday, all places were shut, rollers down. Perhaps it was too early in the day, perhaps it is temporary but it did not look good.

.....

I suspect that most of these places will open up again when the heat is off. There did not seem to be renovation or construction works at most of them.

Yellow Fever

YF, I'm bored as hell living in Shekou area, wondering if you could give me some directions as to where BSZ is at? Would you say hang a right after coming out of Crowne Plaza or hang a left? I might as well try to check it out during the nights and if there are any action, I'll post a report if there is.

Thanks buddy

[Eric Burden]

Not sure what all this was about but tonight there were about 12-15 policeman standing in front of Windows of the World with 2 police dogs (german shepards) and a paddy wagon. I wonder what the dogs were for...looking for drugs maybe?

EB

[Johnps]

Hello Brothers,

I am in Shenzhen this week. Can anybody give me some information for a good outcall or freelancer.

Thanx,

Johnps

[Fast Eddie 48]

Hmmm... not sure which area you are talking about. The BaiShiZhou area I am referring to had at least 10 BBS shops with about half dozen girls each. They seem to be closed down lately, as per reports from Yellow Fever. And the crazy thing is (or was) they stayed open until 5 in the morning. This is much later than even Seibu BBSs.

I took some laowai friends there a long time ago, and the conversation went something like this:

Friend: Can you ask how much it is inside these shops?
Me: Sure
Me (again, after asking): It's 35 rmb, but that's only for a handjob, they don't do anything else here.
Friend: that's crazy! Only 35 rmb?
Me: Yes, but only a HJ, right?
Friend: Yes, but still crazy cheap. Are you sure it's only 35 rmb?
Me: Yes, only 35 rmb. But did you hear me? You only get a HJ!
Friend: Yes, I know, but still only 35 rmb...
Me: What's so cheap about 35 rmb for a HJ? It's the going rate.

The BaiShiZhou BBSs are inside a dirty local village. Always tons of garbage (not bagged) on the sidewalk and backalleys. Which means that the area smells. And has tons of rats. The Crown Plaza hotel rises up like a monolith in the distance (probably only 100-200 meters, not 500 meters now that I think about it). It's surreal, all the crap, garbage and poverty inside BaiShiZhou, with a 5 star hotel practically next door.

Wadman,

There are 2 bbs area one you been to is the old village near crown plaza, this is a old bbs area I didn't see any actions 2 month ago is matter of time the old village will be torn down and rebulid for condo and hotel, there are another bbs area BSZ west down shennan rd newer area, about 5 yr ago we use to get service for 100 rmb is set up like the pink apartment area young freelance service mostly local very late night action and local rent out room for short time and split the money with the girl, but too much compalin by local resident they closed it down.

Fast Eddie 48

[Yellow Fever #2]

The BaiShiZhou BBSs are inside a dirty local village. Always tons of garbage (not bagged) on the sidewalk and backalleys. Which means that the area smells. And has tons of rats. The Crown Plaza hotel rises up like a monolith in the distance (probably only 100-200 meters, not 500 meters now that I think about it). It's surreal, all the crap, garbage and poverty inside BaiShiZhou, with a 5 star hotel practically next door.

Mongering in BaiShiZhou was never for the faint hearted. The alleys are very narrow, the path is dirty, the air can be foul, sometimes disgusting, lots of dead ends. Every once in a while you come across a 'washing pit'. It is hard to imagine that clothes can become cleaner using the water here.

More frequently however, you used to be able to come across some pink lights or a BBS pole with a nice stable inside. The numbers of BBS I would say would be around 25 in total spread out in this town. You have to be brave and up for an adventure to make it through BSZ. Don't go with new shoes or your finest clothing if you want to walk here. Do your best to look like the natives.

I've never been offered at 35RMB HJ. In most shops I was able to negotiate between 100 and 130 for full service. On occasion I was able to do overnight at my apartment but it was rare. In some BBS, they girls were not interested in even talking to foreigners. Most girls tried to please, especially if they seen you before. Foreigners in this area are rare but not uncommon, I've met the odd foreigner who lives in the nicer parts of BSZ. I've even met some foreigners mongering here.

To me BSZ felt like a different country, maybe more like I imagined China would be like. Too bad it seems to be closed down for the moment.

[Wadman]

Wadman,

I have a Hk buddy that live in one of the condo at Baishizhou, and I spend alot of time there the last 10 yr, yes there are still a few tout and mommie around with just a few girls but not out in the open like the good old days when there are over 20 bbs with 10 girl each shop, is just like shai tsui is not dead still a few shop around with just a few girl.

Fast Eddie 48

Hmmm... not sure which area you are talking about. The BaiShiZhou area I am referring to had at least 10 BBS shops with about half dozen girls each. They seem to be closed down lately, as per reports from Yellow Fever. And the crazy thing is (or was) they stayed open until 5 in the morning. This is much later than even Seibu BBSs.

I took some laowai friends there a long time ago, and the conversation went something like this:
Friend: Can you ask how much it is inside these shops?
Me: Sure
Me (again, after asking): It's 35 rmb, but that's only for a handjob, they don't do anything else here.
Friend: that's crazy! Only 35 rmb?
Me: Yes, but only a HJ, right?
Friend: Yes, but still crazy cheap. Are you sure it's only 35 rmb?
Me: Yes, only 35 rmb. But did you hear me? You only get a HJ!
Friend: Yes, I know, but still only 35 rmb...
Me: What's so cheap about 35 rmb for a HJ? It's the going rate.

The BaiShiZhou BBSs are inside a dirty local village. Always tons of garbage (not bagged) on the sidewalk and backalleys. Which means that the area smells. And has tons of rats. The Crown Plaza hotel rises up like a monolith in the distance (probably only 100-200 meters, not 500 meters now that I think about it). It's surreal, all the crap, garbage and poverty inside BaiShiZhou, with a 5 star hotel practically next door.

[Bob Builder]

So yesterday I wanted to do a walk through of louwu to see how bad it has gotten. I got off the metro at louhu stop. Came out by train station, walked to shangri-la and then down the street towards cafe de coral. I did not get offered one massage. NOT EVEN ONE. I am tall white guy. This never happens. So when I get to cafe de coral (BTW it is closed for renovation) I then turn left and keep walking down the sidewalk back up towards king glory plaza. This area of the cafe de coral corner is usually mms central. And it looked like there were a bunch of them there, but there was some guard with a yellow shirt on and arm badge walking on that corner. As I continued down the sidewalk I noticed another guy with a yellow shirt and arm badge. So no more offers of massage. So I go straight into the dirtiest street in SZ in front of the pink apartments. Nothing there either. No offers. I then walk over to Seibu bbs alleys. There was a big LE standing at the corner to where you walk down to the alleys. And he was eyeballing me all the way down the street since here comes the big white guy. Haha.

So I got to the street that has queens spa and turn left and then I am on backside of the alleys. I tried to look back up in them to see if any mamasans sitting there. But I was not brave enough to walk back down any of the alleys. Just too much shit going on.

As I then walked to Mix C (yes far walk) I began to notice tons of LE. Like two on every corner. And lots of LE paddy wagons driving around with their lights on flashing. And lots of LE motorcylces riding up the sidewalks with their lights on. There is fucking LE all over the city right now. It is crazy.

Not good for mongerers in SZ. I have my trusty papasans mobile number. I am going to call him and see if he can deliver something to me.

Be safe bros.

I had takeout from a Seibu gal on Saturday as she said it was business as usual but it was her first day working there in over a week as she had been busted a while back and was too scared to work.

Situation can change for the worse at any time and the place could be desolate again.