Sao Paulo Reports

[Knowledge]

I am disappointed to have to admit that whenever I come across foreigners, especially Americans, in Brazil. I pretend to not understand and I move away as quickly as I can. Mostly it's just a disinclination to go through the expense and inconvenience of traveling in order to hang around people who aren't from the destination. This sort of thing is also in the back of my mind. I can only think of a very few instances of running into it over the years. It's just not something you want to be associated with.

We have been looking around at other you tubers on our local WhatsApp group. It appears some of the other you tubers affected in some way may include.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?si=JlA...ature=youtu.be

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKoH3mWPurM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?si=Okq...ature=youtu.be

Anyway, keep your head down. Lots of Brazilian and other women feminazis are looking for reasons to f over estrangeiro touristas.

[Vagabundo1]

We have been looking around at other you tubers on our local WhatsApp group. It appears some of the other you tubers affected in some way may include.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?si=JlA...ature=youtu.be

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKoH3mWPurM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?si=Okq...ature=youtu.be

Anyway, keep your head down. Lots of Brazilian and other women feminazis are looking for reasons to f over estrangeiro touristas.

That is some serious L3 NS at level insight! Thank you sir.

https://youtu.be/rGPWW9Pjzto?si=6X0Bn9wIxQ05keMH

Reference to HEAT is appreciated. On a tangential note, not to change the topic, but I do, it is kind of the weave, know what I mean?

Vagabundo's goal is to do Brazil Sequels! Like all of Tarantino. Or HEAT (actually there is a HEAT novel set in partly Brazil tri border region).

Now, my specific question to you is. What other Youtubers left?

Again, thank you. You are a scholar, gentleman, and true mongering super genius.

X posting this to the general thread in Brazil.

[Tochka]

https://analytics.exclusivacam.com/

I found this site that pulls the data from all the clinica TDs from gpguia. You can search for girls who do anal for example. I think the most useful info is that it lists all the clinicas in SP and gives WhatsApp numbers for many of them.

Good site. Great list of Clinicas. New Year resolution is to be higher in the top 50 foristas kkk.

[HarryMonk]

Steve9696 is the King of the SA realm, but in my experience it's less hassle to pay by date and best to set expectations before the meet. Maybe 20-25% of the girls aren't experienced, or are naive, and you want to be clear that you have expectations, but are willing to compensate (give them mimos / presents) them for that. I have had girls who wanted longer term relationships, and there was more 'free' sex, but they get attached and it got much messier at the end.

My Seeking experiences have only been in Argentina as there were so many options in Brazil which therefore avoided the subscription cost.

The girls I talked to were up front about cost / time I found. One of the first girls I met was very transactional and didn't want to provide GFE and that isn't what I enjoy. I learnt from that to at least ask what the other girls were offering or enjoyed and the rest were open and up front so that improved my next meets.

Can't imagine its vastly different in Brazil.

[Vagabundo1]

That is some serious L3 NS at level insight! Thank you sir.

https://youtu.be/rGPWW9Pjzto?si=6X0Bn9wIxQ05keMH

Reference to HEAT is appreciated. On a tangential note, not to change the topic, but I do, it is kind of the weave, know what I mean?

Vagabundo's goal is to do Brazil Sequels! Like all of Tarantino. Or HEAT (actually there is a HEAT novel set in partly Brazil tri border region).

Now, my specific question to you is. What other Youtubers left?

Again, thank you. You are a scholar, gentleman, and true mongering super genius.

X posting this to the general thread in Brazil.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ed-Brazil.html

Surprised no one posted this yet.

Happened in sao paulo.

These loud youtube passport bros really be thinking they can do anything with a US passport and some USD.

Two other youtube passport bros left Brazil after this happened so looks like they leaving the heat behind them.

Guess it pays to go to one of the boates so at least you know the clubs vet these girls.

Definitely wouldn't join these guys patreons or membership unless you want to be caught in their problems too.

[Steve 9696]

Steve9696 is the King of the SA realm, but in my experience it's less hassle to pay by date and best to set expectations before the meet. Maybe 20-25% of the girls aren't experienced, or are naive, and you want to be clear that you have expectations, but are willing to compensate (give them mimos / presents) them for that. I have had girls who wanted longer term relationships, and there was more 'free' sex, but they get attached and it got much messier at the end.

Aww thanks Chicago. I have a done Seeking more than a few times. Including So Paulo. For the OP — as Chicago says pay per meet is fairest all around and agree the terms in chat (on WhatsApp never on the app!) Even on WhatsApp try to avoid saying money for sex. Say if u like each other you would want to spend private time and give her a gift. L(this is not strictly necessary in Brasil but good practice for seeking worldwide) expect to pay 500-1000 R for a seeking date that includes sex. Always pay at the end. Discreetly if u can. Like put it in her purse but visible when she's in the restroom cleaning up. Seeking girls are often less pro and don't want to be slapped in the face with money for sex so you try to help their conscience.

[Chicago85]

Do for SA, do you do pay per date and if so, do you set it in chat before meeting?

Steve9696 is the King of the SA realm, but in my experience it's less hassle to pay by date and best to set expectations before the meet. Maybe 20-25% of the girls aren't experienced, or are naive, and you want to be clear that you have expectations, but are willing to compensate (give them mimos / presents) them for that. I have had girls who wanted longer term relationships, and there was more 'free' sex, but they get attached and it got much messier at the end.

[Chicago85]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ed-Brazil.html

Surprised no one posted this yet.

Happened in sao paulo.

These loud youtube passport bros really be thinking they can do anything with a US passport and some USD.

Two other youtube passport bros left Brazil after this happened so looks like they leaving the heat behind them.

Guess it pays to go to one of the boates so at least you know the clubs vet these girls.

Definitely wouldn't join these guys patreons or membership unless you want to be caught in their problems too.

I saw the Red Beard Rants guy from IG in Casarao back in November. He quickly grabbed one of the girls. It totally caught me off guard seeing one of those guys in person, especially one who 'claims' that he doesn't need to pay and sells content based on that premise. Tread carefully.

[Chicago85]

I thought 300 - 600 was average for casa rao?

I am usually quoted 600-700 for an hour, at least earlier in the night (11 pm - 2 am) and have found most girls don't negotiate much (I. E. 500 is lowest for 60 minutes). This noted, guys will say that they regularly get girls for 300-400 . I can only assume this is 30 minutes or similar and very late. Or less popular garotas.

[Exoticspirit]

Damn! I am definitely overpaying. Is that price for a day, a week or even longer time?

Yes from the various sources I read so far it seems that guys are able to negotiate the rates down to average 400-500 are. I don't know if this is for 30 minutes or an hour (or even if the girls keep time). Then add the 60 are for entry and 50 are if you use their hotel (again I don't know if the room is for 30 minutes or an hour either). This is the first time I'm reading anything about exit fee of 150 though

[Lalabo]

If I was doing Casarao, I would not be doing any longer sessions. Instead I was thinking about booking either the Hotel Augusta Boulevard or the Pan American for a night as my base and then bring a girl back for a short time session as much like if I was using one of the Casarao rooms so same session duration. This way I figure I'll have a cleaner room since it's my hotel room and I'll save on the small Casarao room fee. The girl would only have to walk across the street if it's the Pan American or a few doors down if it's the Hotel Augusta Boulevard so I wouldn't think any extra transportation costs would apply. She would be back at Casarao in no time. I would also assume that her session fee would be the same since she's not going anywhere further nor is the session time any different if I had gone ahead to use the Casarao rooms. Please correct me if I'm mistaken by all this.

I am guessing that you have to pay the exit fee of 150 are if you take the girl anywhere than their hotel next door. I wouldn't assume that the price would be same. You have to work that out with the girl.

[Lalabo]

I thought 300 - 600 was average for casa rao?

Damn! I am definitely overpaying. Is that price for a day, a week or even longer time?

[Exoticspirit]

Below Steve9696 post accurately covered typical Casarao takeout pricing for gringos. Most girls would accept 1000 are and that is what you negotiate towards (200 are depending on the girl). Some girls want to leave early between 5-7 am and some girls have no problem staying late. I adjust their price depending on when they want to leave. Most girls ask for upfront payment. I usually pay after, never upfront, but have paid half up front to couple of girls. I have also cancelled a deal after paying exit fee when the girl insisted on pre-payment.

I have never heard ask anywhere close to 2 k at Casarao in the past, but during last November trip I heard multiple 3 K asks. I just laughed and walked away when I heard those quotes. I am guessing there are some takers and that is why some girls are throwing those outrageous numbers just to see if you are one of those suckers.

Oh! There is a 150 are exit fee for taking girl to your place.

If I was doing Casarao, I would not be doing any longer sessions. Instead I was thinking about booking either the Hotel Augusta Boulevard or the Pan American for a night as my base and then bring a girl back for a short time session as much like if I was using one of the Casarao rooms so same session duration. This way I figure I'll have a cleaner room since it's my hotel room and I'll save on the small Casarao room fee. The girl would only have to walk across the street if it's the Pan American or a few doors down if it's the Hotel Augusta Boulevard so I wouldn't think any extra transportation costs would apply. She would be back at Casarao in no time. I would also assume that her session fee would be the same since she's not going anywhere further nor is the session time any different if I had gone ahead to use the Casarao rooms. Please correct me if I'm mistaken by all this.

[JamesTpy]

Below Steve9696 post accurately covered typical Casarao takeout pricing for gringos. Most girls would accept 1000 are and that is what you negotiate towards (200 are depending on the girl). Some girls want to leave early between 5-7 am and some girls have no problem staying late. I adjust their price depending on when they want to leave. Most girls ask for upfront payment. I usually pay after, never upfront, but have paid half up front to couple of girls. I have also cancelled a deal after paying exit fee when the girl insisted on pre-payment.

I have never heard ask anywhere close to 2 k at Casarao in the past, but during last November trip I heard multiple 3 K asks. I just laughed and walked away when I heard those quotes. I am guessing there are some takers and that is why some girls are throwing those outrageous numbers just to see if you are one of those suckers..

I thought 300 - 600 was average for casa rao?

[Lalabo]

For the future, I don't think I will be doing anymore Casarao sessions in-house. I plan to pull my brancas and head back to my hotel room. What price would you suggest for that, also taking into account that the girl will need transportation either back to the club or to her place? Thoughts anyone Casarao pros? What's a fair price?

Below Steve9696 post accurately covered typical Casarao takeout pricing for gringos. Most girls would accept 1000 are and that is what you negotiate towards (200 are depending on the girl). Some girls want to leave early between 5-7 am and some girls have no problem staying late. I adjust their price depending on when they want to leave. Most girls ask for upfront payment. I usually pay after, never upfront, but have paid half up front to couple of girls. I have also cancelled a deal after paying exit fee when the girl insisted on pre-payment.

I have never heard ask anywhere close to 2 k at Casarao in the past, but during last November trip I heard multiple 3 K asks. I just laughed and walked away when I heard those quotes. I am guessing there are some takers and that is why some girls are throwing those outrageous numbers just to see if you are one of those suckers.

Oh! There is a 150 are exit fee for taking girl to your place.

In answer to the other recent pricing question, I've found 2 x onsite rate to be a good proxy for the overnight rate. I've taken a couple girls for 1000 and one smoking hot 10 (second one ever worldwide) for 1200. There are def gems to be found there. I am sure some girls would go for 800R esp if getting towards morning hours.