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Hi everybody, this is my first entry to this forum, but i am from Caracas and have information on all the places to go down there.

There are different bars that cater to different crowds. i will try to tell you about most of them what i can say is that i have manage to live my house at 10 pm and not returned until 4 pm the next day, went to 4 clubs and ended up at a little hole in the wall where all the girls go after the clubs close.

So here it is, first if you have never been down to Caracas, you don't know what you are missing but be aware the places where most of the clubs are located are not the safest in the city but as long as you are carefull, and don't walk around you should be OK, always drive, you can rent a car or get a taxi just don't walk around in the wee hours of the night.

If you have no idea what to expect, then the best place to start is the internet, and caracas has a couple of websites that will give you a very good idea of what to expect. first one to check out is [url]www.sexycaracas.com,[/url] then [url]www.800chicas[/url] and [url]www.jardinerotico.com[/url] in this sites you will get the girls phone numbers and can arrange appointments via email.

If you feel like waiting and want to see them in person, then by all means do whatever you feel like but remember always enjoy it. In caracas most of the clubs are located in an area called Sabana Grande, more specifically in the Casanova Ave. Most of the bars that are around this area are hotels with bars where girls hang out, you can recognize them by the signs that say "American Bar". keep in mind all the girls in there are working, the way it works is you walk in and a waiter will sit you at a table, just sit down, order a drink or if there is a couple of you get half a bottle of something, for you beer drinkers sorry but you will not find any beer at this places the cheapest you will find i rum all the way up to Don Perignon champagne. You will notice that the waiters will try to get you to buy a bottle of something if there are a few of you. Don't get sucked into it if you don't want to you can always get a 1/2 a bottle. Well back to the girls, as soon as you sit down you will notice girls coming up to you asking you if you want to buy them a drink, they get tokens for the drinks you buy them, this is a big ripoff, but hey it is a small price to pay for what is up ahead. The drinks that the girls order will be about twice as much as anything you get, and most of the time it is fruit punch or some sort of juice. I will say the girls are not suppesed to drink the customers booze but if they like you they will to save you money.

After you get a girl you like, you can stay in the bar as long as you want, during this time you can usually get away with some touching this way you feel what you are getting, and if they like you they will be some kissing involved. If you want to go to a hotel you are right there all you have to do tell the waiter and he will arrange the room and the drinks, i know some of you may be saying drinks??? well yes the bar will tell you that there is a drink minimum you have to buy to go to a room, there is no real way around this unless you know the owner. If you want to take the girl back to your hotel room you will have to pay the bar for her exit fee, unless it is after 5 am and the girls are going home. The prices vary it all depends on the girl you are with, and what you want to do. You can negociate that with the girl.

The best of these bars IMHO are, The Rose, The Morrison, El Tiburon, and the ONIX there are a couple more but i can't remember the names but they are all door to door with the Onix.

If you are wondering how the hotels are, they are decent usually a gueen bed with a bathroom, TV, and AC.

Well this will be it for now, it is getting long and i have work to do, but don't worry i will be back to tell you about the other places to go. SC, SW.

If you have any questions post them here and i will gladly answer them.

CaracasEd:

Thanks for the info on the websites. However, could you please explain what some of the terms mean?

Many girls mention that they will perform different types of "massages". I know what they mean when they say Greek, French, and Russian. But what are they talking about when they say they will do Hindu, Thai, and English?

[b]
Hotel Embassy
Av Las Acacias Sur
Urb. San Antonio - Sabana Grande
Caracas, Venezuela
(582) 782.78.21
[/b]

Cheap rooms, porno TV, girls in the bar downstairs!

Hulk,

In the sexycaracas.com website which is in english, there is a link called massages, they explain all the different kinds there.

caracasEd:
Where is the ONIX located?

alejandrosa,
Now that i remember corectly, the ONIX is just a hotel where i took a couple of SW's, but there is no bar there that i can remember. It is right next door to the Embassy, the address for the embassy is in an earlier post.

Well I just returned back from Caracas and I actually found the Edficio Avalon that someone talked about in this forum. It was the most interesting and legal situation I have ever been in. Before I describe it understand a few things;
o This place is for those who just want to get that heat off so they can spend the rest of the time in Caracas without sex being a concern. For me that worked because I just needed some place to get my rocks off and keep moving. Not looking to have anyone around for the whole night.

o A lot of the women in there can be pretty rough looking but if you come at night and look carfully you can find some nice ones to hook up with.

o Like someone said it is right there in plain view and just looks like another office building.

o The woman I chose was very careful about using a condom, washing me up and doing an inspection.

Now for the info. The place is actually located closer to the subway stop named Chacaito. If you look across the street from it you will see the only theater in the entire Sabana Grande area.
Right next to the theater is an office building with the name Edificio Avalon. You will see guards at the door pay no attention to them and walk in like you own the place.

You will go up the stairs and when you come to the second floor you will see a room of women just sitting around waiting for someone to choose them. The going rate is about 15,000 VBE which comes to about $15 U.S. Basically what happens after that is you are taken to a room with a bed and sink and toilet. Stripped down and have sex with your choice until you reach your orgasm. As I said this is strictly heat and serve. There is no love lost here. To give you an example(and I almost fell out laughing) as we are screwing on the bed her cell phone goes off and she answers it holds a conversation without missing a stroke. I loved it . It was strictly out of Monty Python. Thank God there is no ego here to worry about. It was absolutely funny. As I said though get your rocks off, wash up, and go back to your hotel or actually pay money for another ride on the merry-go-round with someone different.

Blackmalefun

Is there any location in Caracas where one can go to pick up hot woman....besides using one of the web sites full of escorts. Any place that comes close to pick up joints that can be found in Brazil and Argentina. You can post info here or feel free to e mail directly. Any one that may have suggestions of particular girls/numbers etc and willing to share...it would be appreciated.
asiaman18@hotmail.com

Hi guys,

I am thinking on making a trip to Ven. late this year or in Feb/March next year.
I hjave been to Dom.Rep and Peru. Also to many eastern European countries.
From looks DR women are far more prettier...but from a sex the Peru women were better!!

How is venezuela??

What is the change to meet a good GF?? I mean one to take home to momma??;-)
I am 35,178cm and reasonably looking. Speak some spanish.

Also I would like to do some *****mongering.(hehehe)
Isla margarita seems too touristic for my taste.(too many guys and too expensive)

Any sugestions??

A real Dutch *****monger.

Johan.


PS: come and see my posts in the Peru section..:-)

Hey Johan buddy so you are coming to Venezeula when??? Is it true Venezeulan women usually win the Universal Beauty pageants most of the time? Johan how long will you stay in Venezeula? Will you still visit Peru and Bolivia in march? Hey ya all help Jhan out in Venezezeula he is a cool guy except really Psycho on his EEWL Yahoo website. Sorry Johan my friend sad but true. Johan I have not seen no new posts in Peru by you. How is your Peruvian girlfriend doing? Hey you guys so is the situation in Venezeula pretty fucked up with Commie Chavez? I heard he is turning in Venezeula in to A Police State. I heard the crime is soaring in Venezeula especially in Caracas. Why the people voted for this Clown it is fucked he is Fidel Castros buddy. Hey Ed fill us in on all in Venezeula. Is it going to be like Columbia soon? Are they pretty Anti- US in Venezeula? Johan what prompted you to decide to go to Venezeula this year? How long will you go for? I did here the subway is great in Caracas there is no subway in Lima Peru. Yeh guys check out my posts in Peru and Bolivia. I am now in La Paz Bolivia and the sex scene is pretty strong in La Paz. Oh where are all the areas for streetwalkers in Caracas and massage parlors? How are the strip clubs in Caracas? ThanXXX ya All ;;;;; NIBU R....

Hi Nibster!!

Ok as you know I also have a job to do here....:-( So I realy don't have that much time anymore for tripreports.
Yes...I read your stuff. Go get those ho's and fuck em good Nib.

But I can NOT go to Bolivia AND to Peru..AND to venezuela man..I mean I am NOT a fucking miljonair!!

My guess is that it is gonna be Ven. I think feb/march next year.
I will stay offcourse TWO weeks as ever.
I will NOT go to isla Margarita...as there are ONLY whoors.(imho) And as you know I am a fan of NON-pro action :-)

I dumpted my Peru chick. She had a good job (400 US$ a month) and she was nagging to me about her 'poor" family.
And that whilst her momma was been to Europe for (6!) weeks!!
poor....yeah right..MY ass!! She was a snobby,arrogant *****..as I more thought about it.

She only wanted my for my $$$$ That's the bottom line here.
I mean she is 32 for christ sake!! NO peruvian guy will take her. I mean she is no 9 or not a foto-model. Her looks are not more then a 7...well you seen her pic man.

Nibu...IF you realy think Peru women are pretty (which they actualy are...) YOU have NOT seen nothing yet!!!!

In Venezuela (and colombia) most women are NOT under 8-9!! They are TRUE stunners...!!
Why do you think those countries winn the beuty contests every year so many times???

Colombia is indeed too damn dangerous for me. I think it is crazy to go there....;-)

Chavez is NOT a commie man...he is a sociaslist and has some good ideas. he is a friend of Castro....but that doesn't mean he has teh SAME ideas!! I think it is stupid to boycot Cuba...after so many years?? I mean WHAT is THE threat of Cuba to USA??? I don't get it...

If you compare the structure of the country with many other SA countires Ven. is pretty well off.....
I mean did you was In DR?? Or some area's in Peru???
Bolivia is even worse I reckon.

Pretty women are everywere man.
But I like em dark and a bit mix from negro and white and latin. IF you are into THAT kindda hotties go to Venezuela!!!!
Ther are wome from white like you and me..untill dark black and everything inbetween those collours.
Al;so I like THAT Latin Bubble BUTT....:-)

Woweeee!!!

regards,

johan.

PS: eewl is a nude list of tanned women....so it is normal we have many postings on one day!!

Hope I am not butting in, I wonder how Nibu And Johan find time to fuck any women as they spend all night on the internet. Thanks Nibu for your info on Peru BUT NOW YOUR ON MY PATCH I have done Venezuela up and down left and right for the last 5 years. Johan check into the Embassy hotel near Plaza Venezuela $50 for a good room with Jacuzzi and sex aids. Girls are downstairs at the bar play hard to get and prices are good all night $50. If you have time get away from Caracas it is a shit hole Morrocoy is 2 hours away much better and cheaper Quinta cristal is world famous, it is a good brothel with probably 50+ girls every night. One bit of advice I can give regarding Venezuela is everybody thinks they are smart and the gringo is stupid, we as stupid gringos are happy to go along with it.

Thanks Luke skywanker..!! (btw how is Chewy?)

However I do not sit all night at internet...and CERTAINLY not when I am on a SEX hunt!!!;-) Some eewl members are complaining were the heel my tripreports are....well I just didn't had time for em. Sorry.
As I said..I prefer non-pro action. And I am convinced it is availeble also in Venezuela.
Yes...caracas is more expensive then others...IM is the same imho.
50 bucks for one night for a room??? Naaa don't think that I am gonna pay that $$$. You gotta be kidding me. I don't pay more then 10-15...and that's final. As long as I get everyday new towels and as long the sheets get cleaned it's ok with me.

I am NOT an american so I am not very spoild. I don't need a jaccuzi.(for what?) Only a hot jungle gurl...:-) And my mister Tom!!
A good bed and many good (Home made Dutch) condoms do the trick.
Breakfast in the hotel when it is ok. From own experience I know tropical breakfasts tend to be kindda shitty. Heyy on that point I am very spoild!!!;-)
Nothing beats a good Fuck and a GOOD breakfast.

yes I know...Peruvians also thought gringo (me) was a stupid asshole. However...never underestimate a Dutchmen on a sex hunt..lol.

50 bucks for all night??? Are you NUTS???? I mean the price is ok...but I am NOT going to fuck all night!!!
first of all it is too bloody hot....tto much time difference (first days).
1 hour...2 at the max is fine with me. All night??? who's been telling you that crap??? So I reckon for one hour it is about 20 bucks??(for an 8..that is..)

I would love to hook up with some guys and party in Venezuela as I am a fun guy to be with. I don't do much drinking,as you can not fuck when you are drunk.

I am sure I can find some nice gurlz overthere. Maybe find my life partner???

Well I learned my lesson in Lima...AVOID HIGH PROFFESSIONAL WOMEN. They are BAD NEWS!!! Srew em..

CU

Johan.

Sky, I think you mean Maracay as the city in which the Quinta cristal brothel is located. Morrocoy is the name of a national park in Venezuela.

Johan dude yes paying too much is shit no you are not all night on the WSG Forum but you do post pictures like a maniac on your EEWL site,Are you on Prozac with EEWl???? Look at my other post on Commie Chavez he has plunged Venezeula in to a Ploice State. So march you will be in Venezeula Keep me updated Your Pal Nibu P.S. FUCK COMMIE CHAVEZ AND COMMIE CASTRO AND FARC IN COLUMBIA,,,,,, Fuck Them....

Johan I see no EEWL Sex reports because you are posting too many pictures of non Latin Flat chested girls on EEWL. I like big tits it seems you like no tits. Please on EEWL Post some latin volutous Mamas. I guess in Cochabamba,Bolivia you would be in heaven lot of cute faces but hardly any Big Tits. Today I saw some Hot big titted Mamas only two in Cochabama,Bolivia. Tommorow I will be in the best spot for woman in Bolivia Santa Cruz A 10 hour bus ride for under 4 bucks but a Hellbus without toilets that is the same with all the buses. Johan Commie Chavez and Fidel Castro want to topple Latin America in to communism. Chavez is very anti---- Us and also supports Iraq And Iran. Brazil is also sliding in to pure socialism. Next to fall in a few years will be Columbia and Panama Shit That Is Bad. How Can you support Chavez? Fidel cladestinly brang Chavez to power in Venezeula. Come on Johan or even Ed Chavez is cancer. The other day riots but small in Huancayo,Peru and problems in Guatemala. Chavez and His Commies want this problem. Sorry Jackson do not delete this but this is some scary shit. Come on Johan Wake Up. You know me Are you my friend or not?????? How about a report on EEWL too and more better pictures. I got to Go NIBU R.... LET FREEDOM RING,,,,, FUck Communism and Dictatorsim....

Has anyone tried any of the girls from the sexy caracas web page.
I see that they have prices in Bolivares and Dollars. The amount in dollars is stupid to pay. What you pay for the hour is that for the hour or is it you cum and they go? Any recommendations any can make on any independent girls or agencies. Do the girls
expect a tip? For a girl that advertises 60k bolivares for the hour
on sexy caracas what can I expect?
thanks to anyone that can help me here.

Hi Johan I am traveling at the moment so I only check postings every couple of days, if you want a really cheap fuck the Edicfio avalon mentioned in the archives does exist at the end of Sabana grand just go upstairs and pay $10. At the other end of Sabana grand there is a bar/cafe called Grand cafe just sit outside with a beer around late afternoon and wait for some action there are 3 or 4 girls who are always hanging around looking for a victim. stay away from a black girl who calls herself Rosa very untrustworthy. Venezuela is not as bad as Colombia or as Nibu makes out but Caracas is a real shithole if you are flying from Maquetia try staying around La Guardia cheaper and a little bit safer.

Hi Luke maybe Venezeula is not that bad as Columbia but I would have to agree that Caracas Is fucked but that is the main place to CUM visit first. I would love to visit Columbia and Venezeula some day but shit is so uncertain in those two countries more in Columbia. I do have friends in Columbia in Bogata,Cali,Medellin and Popayan. That civil war shit sucks and to make things worse Commie Chavez is a big supporter of terrorism he supports the Farc and Eln In Columbia and let,s those groups operate within Venezeula he literally shelters thse scum plus supports The Sendero Luminiso in Peru And Fidel and thse Middle Eastern terrorists. Yes I do believe in freedom and justice. sorry Jackson this is not a political discussion group but I am just trying to warn people of this nut. I would love to make love to some Venezeulan babes but that is not in my trip plans for the next year for now more of Peru And Bolivia maybe in september I will enter to Ascunsion Paraguay. I am now 30 hours away by bus in to Ascunsion I am in Santa Cruz now kicking back on A Ducal beer yeh Santa Cruz Bolivia. Well to Johan I accidently delted that info on Peruvian sex sites on EEWL. Can you send it to me again ctw30@hotmail.com or wipy1999@yahoo.com Johan Ultima Thule Are not fans of Castro or Chavez,,,,,NIBU R....

Hi Nibu,

ok I send you the postings again... Anyway I put you "on digest" mode...so you don't have to see all those "flat-chested" babes...LOL.

About Chavez....ok I know you Americans TEND to call everybody a commie when he is doing something for the poor people (like Chavez).
But he is NOT a communist!!! I repeat NOT a communist.

Cuba is a communista country and every year 100.000's Canadians and Europeans come there and FUCK the shit outta those hot cubana's...!!! And you know what?? It is regarded as perhaps the most save country in SA!!!!(together with Costa Rica)

Who's telling you that Chavez Supports Farc and other scum??
Btw...did yu also know that some GOVERNMENT troops in Colombia also are considered SCUM by the locals????;-)
I do NOT agree with kidnappigs of westerners etc.etc. But The government isn't THAT good for the locals either you know!!

Ok...sorry Jackson for this off topic political shit but I just had to "correct" Nibu here a bit....

You are right IF Colombia is coming in more silent waters...I'll be the first to go there and NAIL some Colombiana's Pussies BIGTIME!!!:-) Because they are GREAT lookers and great bodies.

Nibu: Fuck those bitches in Ascension!!!:-)


Johan.

Johan,

You must be kidding if you think the Chavez boys are not supporting FARC. It is so bad, in fact, that some people in Bogota are discussing just how to strike back against Venezuela, check the local press there and you'll see what I mean.

Chavez is nuttier than a fruitcake, 'tis a pity the bunch that threw him out in April didn't put a bullet through his skull. Of course, they were a bunch of lily-livered businessmen, unskilled in the art of coups de etat.

Where are Turkish military advisers when they are needed?

-Otto

Caracas Ed can you give us a full Description On the problems increasing in Venezeula? Is the crme still soaring under Chavez? To Johan Columbia may be way more uncivil but at least the government is still not controlled by Commie Scum like in Venezeula. To Jackson Sorry But I get Mad at What this nut Chavez is doing to S.A. It can also affect Argentina in the future Chavez wants to see all Democracy fall in South America. To Otto Thanks On backing me up. Johan you are a great guy but your politics suck,,, Again Sorry NIBU..........

Man on www.sexycaracas.com Way too overpriced Shit This is a third world country. Why the expensive US Prices????

Nibu,

been to that url....jee what hot sexy women!!!Indeed most of them are 8's or 9's.

My guess would be that the site is special for US dudes who think if they f*ck a b*tch for US $ 130,- an hour they get a bargian!!!!LOL.
Actualy i think it's a waiste of money to get a ho more then 1-2 hours....unless you're popping Viagra all the time like crazy...:-(

In such a country IF you are under 40 and decent looking I sure would NOT pay more then 20-30 bucks per hour. Those escorsts agencies are ripp off's IMHO.

NIbu....yesterday I fucked a polish ho here in Holland (she spoke some German)for € 60,- an hour....SHE WAS TOP:-)


I mean even in my country you can fuck GREAT looking women for at the max) € 120,- an hour...SO WHY TRAVEL 8000 km and still pay US prices????;-) Guys who do that are NUTS.

CU guys.

Johan.

Yeh Johan too pricey on Sexycaracas.com Hey this is also like my question posted in The Medellin section today yeh in Columbia. Would any locals Like Carcas ED WHERE ARE YOU NOW??????? Know about the transportation system and Taxi system in Caracas. The Metro was built in 1983 And I heard is very clean. The two cleanest metros I always enjoyed were in Toronto Canada And Mexico city when I lived there in 1998 And since then in Mexico city a new Northern line has opened up. Any Inputs or comments on this? PLEASE ThanXXX NIBU R. P.S. Johan Looney Chavez has The Presidential Palace Barricaded. WHAT A NUT.

Nibu Raphael,

your post are worthless.

starfe

This Friday I will be traveling to Venezuala for the first time. I am staying at the JW Marriott in Caracas. Do you know if the hotel will stop any of those girls from sexycaracas.com from going to my room? Do any of you know the location of where that marriott is and if I am close to any good action from there? How much should I spend on a taxi from the airport to that hotel? whats considered reasonable? some basic advice on how to get around caracas would be very helpful. Thanks in advance!

wherenext,

I wish you goodluck and keep us posted!!!! Also on the latest update upon Chavez and politics.Also please inform us about prices and SW action.
Maybe if you can....have the time for it...an GF-E???

All those hotels sound pretty expensive(marriot) to me....guess in those places they will NOT allow any girls:-(
Better ask if they are GF-Friendly before ye check in....;-)

Take care.


Johan.

Starfe SHUT UP. You Harrassed Me before on the Old Argentina Posts. SHUTUP And Pay your High Prices,NIBU R.

hey fellow mongers. i have a quick question for anyone: i'm going to be in curacao in october, and wanted to take a ferry over to venezuela to check out the chicas. should i get over to caracas, or is there a town where the curacao ferry brings you to that has some hot chicas, pro or non-pro? any info would be greatly appreciated including prices of the ferry to and from. i've had a hard time finding this on the net. much thanks, -jstem33

Nibu Raphael ,

listen up you looser, you post constant bullshit that helps no one.

for once in your life post something thats readable. thne post something that has some merit.

your still waste of time and space.

your friend,

starfe

Will be frequenting Caracas, staying at the Eurobuilding Hotel.

Anyone know of their visitor policies??

Thanks!

Haven't been in the Eurobuilding Hotel in a while, but not so long ago, bringing in or finding "guests' was not a problem and the girls know it. I picked up girls by the telephones (just before you enter the restaurant on the first floor), or in the bar on the second floor, and even in the lobby lounge sitting area and waiting to make contact.

Starfe dude I post a lot of great info. Why Are you so trapped in just the Gringo scams in SA?????? Dude there is so many bargains to be done in SA. I do very damn helpful posts and so does Johan. It is not my fault you have problems on scoring. I have been traveling in Sa For two years now Who are you to crticize me. Where are you from too???? I am 34 years old and Born and Hellraised in Chicago. Oh and to Johan I hung out with him a few days in Lima A great dude Anthony Mendez was great too the Italian dude Me And Johan met was weird. Starfe if you know so much then be quiet and POST Something reasonable and reliable and Stop hiding behind your Yuppie outfit You got a kick out of saying SHIT to me before. I think my info in the WSG Kicks ass. I was recently in Northern and Central Argentina not just BA like everyone goes too. I have traveled thru half of Mexico too. Starfe let us see What your credentials are Do not treat me like an idiot PLEASE. Ok To Jackson Great The WSG is back in Fucking Action I need to go,,,, NIBU.....

to JavMav -- just returned from EuroBuilding -- they definitely allow guests. They want you to regester them, not for extra $$ but for your protection they say. If you walk into the hotel with the girl from a cab you can even skip the regester process and head straight to the elevators, they can't tell if she's a pro or friend or whatever. Have fun!

Another post for caracas. An agency I use is called "Amazonas" .
Don't have the number with me, but you can find it in the El Universal newspaper classifieds under classifacados / masajistas.
Other agencies have tried to screw me, sending sub par ladies but this lady has always been on the money with descriptions. The cost is only 300 Bolivares / hr or $21. Hard to believe but true! It's a must to at least speak some spanish because I've never talked to any of the agency people who could speak any english at all. At least have a little script ready: Quiero chica joven, morena, con pechos grandes , estoy en Euro building -- just an example but be ready.
Another place, it's a bar actually in a mall basement, is a nice little brothel that costs about 500 Bolivares/hr for in house service (about $35). It's called Club Noche rotundo and it's in Chacaito. 5 minute cab ride from hotel EuroBuilding. Tell cab guy "Chacaito, Centro Commercial. He'll drop you off and you'll see the mall with the words - centro commercial. Go downstairs and ask anyone for Club Noche and they'll show you. Some lady working in a beauty parlor showed me. Nice circular bar and about 20 ladys at around 4pm. It closes at midnight but the area is a bit dangerous at night. Day is fine, lots of people walking around.

300 bolivares is about 24 cents.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Ricker
[i]Another post for caracas. The cost is only 300 Bolivares / hr or $21.[/i][/QUOTE]

Ricker means 30,000 Bolivares. I´ve tried and had pretty good success with Amazonas also. I´ll have to try Club Noche...maybe later this week.

Woops sorry, I did mean 30,000. When the numbers are that big I get confused. Found the Nmbr for Amazonas 0414-919-3132. For Club Noche de Ronda: 952-0695.
Also, me and a buddy hit Angelos, an upscale titty bar in Chacau were the girls are beautiful. You can do contact lap dances for 10,000 Bol. (got it right this time) ($7) or do the deed in a back room for about 190,000 Bol (yes about $135). We actually sat and talked with 2 beautiful Brazillians in there (lots of em), bought a couple drinks, prices not bad at about $3 - $5 a pop. After a couple hours said we had to leave (no way I'm gonna pay $140 or so if Amazonas is a phone call away fo room entertainment). Make a long story end ... they gave us their cell phone nmbrs and we hooked for a nice late lunch next day and had a great session. We tipped them about 70,000 B apiece ($50) but it was good GFE, no rush and 2- 3 hours in the room.
Anyway, have fun! P.S. thanks for correcting me Zippy, appreciate it!

Zipster...

I am guessing that the Noche de Ronda changes pricing policies at nightfall, because I went there at 9pm or so one evening several months ago and it was almost 100K incall for an hour?

Which means they are an "estudio" during the day, just like many of those love hotel places just below Sabana Grande.. like I told you, eh?

might have to walk in and check it out..
it´s very short walk LOL

as to Angelus (FINALLY, someone spelled it correctly!) ..I might be making a little virgin journey there just to scope it out shortly. Care to join me?

your buddy Catire..

I've been to Angelus once and there were some cute girls in there, however, the majority were 5-7's (not worth the price tag). In terms of quality and quantity, it seemed like Club Saxo in Sabana was a better (but this was 6 months ago).

I'd actually rather go check out Noches in the day. Maybe next week?

The prices quoted for Nocha de Rondes were wrong?

your hour will easily set you back 110K bolivares.

Ricker,

Hey bro....I've been trying your cell phone all last month. Talk to me bro so we can tear up some stuff together. I know you may not check your phone messages, but I know you are reading The Guide!

Fatty

Catire, I stand corrected (again), went to Club Noches again and indeed the price was 500 bol. but that's only for the room. Found out ya still got to negotiate with the girl. Was quoted 50 to 80 dollars by a couple of them. The manager lied to us the first time we went there, i guess trying to lure us in. He said "senor 500 bol. incluido todo" , stupid me thought that meant getting the girl in the room with me was included too. oh well, live and learn.
adios.
For Fat Bastard ... gotta talk soon, met a nice nice girl from Salvador, going to see her on the 4th, and a beautiful 19 yr old from Barranquilla, she's HOT, but just met her and talking. Call me!
Ricker

I'm presuming that the quoted number in bolivares was 50,000, which is about $30 plus change.

That's just for the room. The girls charge $80 more.

That's quite expensive.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Ricker
[i]Catire, I stand corrected (again), went to Club Noches again and indeed the price was 500 bol. but that's only for the room. Found out ya still got to negotiate with the girl. [/i][/QUOTE]

Si , too expensive ! Sorry again, it was 50,000 Bol.
Heading down there tonight again, will do more exploring !
Angelus has been a been success, getting the phone nmbrs of the girls and doing lunch the next day for an unnegotiated "gift".
Bought the last girl lunch, a pair of $20 shoes and 30,000 bol. for all day long boyfriend - girlfriend day :)
Buenas suerte!

That's a pretty good deal for Caracas, Ricker! Nice job!

Thanks ZIPPY, just got back again. I'll tell you what ... the mall, not sure of the spelling but SAMBIL is awesome. The girls are HOTTT and they seem to love American looking guys ... had lunch with one girl i met and several phone numbers from others.
Great place for non-pro hunting ... I think at least a semi-conversational spanish would be required but ... maybe not ... they love Americans.

Ricker.

Learn Spanish. Learn Spanish. Learn Spanish.

Is that too subtle?

many middle/upper class speak at least SOME English, but trust me. do yourself the favor and focus on learning Spanish.

And yes, "gringos" tend to be quite popular here, especially if at least somewhat fit and light haired/blue eyed.

Latin women love blue eyes.

and there is no better place to go girl watching (or hunting) than Sambil.

Thanks Catire, you're right about the spanish. I started learning years ago when i saw how their faces lit up when i could just speak a little ... pero ahora puedo hablar casi perfecto.
I just put the spanish remark in to highlight the bonus it gets you with these ladies ... god bless SAMBIL !!! thanks

Yes, I definitely agree with you guys concerning Sambil! The only thing I can compare it to is Chipi-Chopi mall in Cali, Colombia for non-pro chica hunting potential.

However, I've actually had better luck in places like Maracay and Valencia where there are even LESS gringos.

Congrats Ricker.

But don´t stop those Spanish courses just yet.
adjectives vs adverbs

hablo perfectamente..

and you should give me an object to the verb hablar.

so.

pero ahora puedo hablar espanol perfectamente

or ahora puedo hablarlo perfectamente

I would prefer a less clumsy structure to what you are trying to say.

but "poco a poco"

estas aprendiendolo

Zippy,

it's CHIPI-CHAPI....but who cares???;-) I also think malls are NOT the only place to get down on non-pro's. But that's another story.

For the rest of the gang:

Anyway I still think Cali isn't THAT great for wife hunting as it seems. Party-girls?? Ho's?? it's Prime A rated...but a decent WIFE??? I doubt it. I allready saw too many divorces coming out of that one.
Two tings will happen when all those gringos from the US keep coming,and still keep believing that Agency BS.

1) More and more men think with their P....s..in doing so they seem to lost track of what is real and what is not. (fe the 45 yo fat dude with the 22 yo pretty chica!! just to name one) You can WAIT on that one to go down the drain......

2) Women seem to get more and more pretentious about this whole forreign guy thing. I ve been wondering arround for nearly a year and if you regard what kind of (overall) SHITHOLE Colombia NOW is.....it's hilarious how many demands some younger girls have..and NOT only young girls;-)
I also think that those fricking agencies have a hand in this one aswell......:-(

just my two € cents.
(I am sorry if this was off topic)

Johan.

I am going to Margarita Island and staying in Punta de Piedras. Any action there - massage, bars, girls ?

I agree, Johan... there are plenty of places to meet non-pros besides malls, however, your mileage may vary depending on your looks, attitude, Spanish-speaking ability, dancing ability, and other variables.

I, personally, had good success in Cali meeting non-pros by doing normal things like going to the health club, out to eat, malls, hanging out in "normal" bars on Avenida Sexta, meeting people who introduced me to chicas, etc. And I never went near a marriage-agency (which I feel are ridiculous).

From experience, I can tell you that Medellin is similar to Cali (except for the fact that Medellin has a mediocre P4P scene).

thanks, Catire ... i guess i did kind of over-estimate my spanish speaking ability ... let me rephrase and say i can get by but still learning.

Anyhow ... just got back from Caracas tonite. Met a really cute girl and had fun with her ... also a great night at Angelus, on friday night it's hopping. Still think the best deal at Angelus is to sit and talk a bit and get their phone number for get together the following day ... much cheaper and less 'professional' feel about it.

Speaking of marriage agency stuff (below posts) ... has anyone had any experience with the "southamericanladies.com" agency from Barranquilla?... thinking about going to the tour at the end of november with some friends ... not really to get married but to check it out and hopefully make some friends.

ZIPPY YOU DO NOT HAVE TO DANCE TO GET GIRLS IN CARACAS JUST TALK TO THEM. SURE I GO TO DANCE CLUBS TOO BUT HATE THAT SLSA AND TECHNOCUMBIA CRAP. I HATE LATIN PEOPLE GETTING ALWAYS TYPE CATED IN TO THAT STEROTYPE. I AM SURE AT THE LOCAL HEAVY METAL SHOWS IN CARACAS LOT OF GROUPIE GIRLS THAT WAS THE CASE IN MEXICO CITY WITH TRANSMETAL SHOWS. HOT BABES MAN THEY LOVED ME. UNFORTUNATLEY IN LIMA THE GIRLS THAT GO TO THSE SHOWS ARE UGLY MOSTLY. DUDE ZIP MAN CHECK OUT A ROCK CLUB ONE DAY IN CARACAS OR GO TO A ROCK OR METAL SHOW AND I AM SURE YOU WILL GET LAID. LOOK AT THE FLYERS POSTED AROUND CARACAS. CHECK OUT A GOTHIC CLUB. MAN I SCORED GREAT ON THIS GOTHIC GIRL IN LIMA AT THE VAMPYROS CLUB VANESSA WAS HER NAME. THEY EVEN DID A REPORT ON THE LIMA NEWS ON THIS. YOUR A COOL DUDE BUT I HATE THE TYPICAL STEREOTYPICAL VIEW ON LATINS IT IS KIND OF RACIST. ANYWAYS WHAT IS NEW IN THE SCENE IN CARACAS?????? ANY GREAT STREETWALKER AREAS IN CARACAS??? AN UPDATE ON MASSAGE PARLORS IN CARACAS????? NEW INFO ON STRIP CLUBS IN CARACAS???? DO SEX CLUBS EXIST IN CARACAS????? WHAT ABOUT PORNO BURLESQUE THEATERS??? TO JOHAN NEXT TIME IN LIMA HIT VAMPYROS I GOT VANESSAS NUMBER SHE IS FROM CHORILLOS,,,,,,LATER YA ALL,,,NIBS.....SEXO Y ROCK N ROLL

Hmm. Hola gents. I didn't realize Venezuela had so many hotties. I went to Curacao many, many years ago for vacation and hit Venezuela for a day but don't remember this many hotties. I went to www.sexycaracas.com and many of those girls look pretty good. I wonder if their faces are as good?

I love traveling to new countries not just for the women but to see another city, the surroundings and just absorbing the culture there. I am adding Caracas to my short list of places to visit. I will plan a trip there for early next year and hope it is as good as it looks.

Life is good.

Saint

Nibu,

saw a special on Goth girlies in UK the other day....man they SUCK DICK like their lives depending on it!!!!!:-)
When I was in Lima we fucking went on the wrong night to vampyros:-(
here in NL the Goth scene is small....not worth mentioning in fact.
But you are right,The GOTH gils are UGLY as hell....but they GO!!:-)

What about GOTH scene in Argie land????BA got some action or what??

Can't wait to do some hot bad ass mtf Goth puzz myself!!

Just maybe.......a very tiny change that we'll hit Lima AGAIN....but don't count on it Nibu.
I wanna see some real BEACH and some real SUN in February!!

Johan.

Hey Guys,

This is my first post on the site, and I'd just like to say how useful it is, keep up the good work.

Myself and a friend are heading down to Venezuela for Christmas and New Year, and we will be spending a Saturday night in Caracas at the Eurobuilding before going down Isla Margarita for the rest of our stay. I've read that the Las Mercedes area has the nightlife, and I was wondering if

a; it's safe to go and wander around Las Mercedes at night?

b; if there are any bars/clubs where a couple of youngish(28) Brits could go to get some pro or non pro action? We don't speak much Spanish, by the way...

I'm also gonna post a request for info on the Isla Margarita section to see if anyone has any more advice on that. I promise a full trip report on return.

Thanks Guys.

Las Mercedes is safe. From the Eurobuilding, you can walk there, it's probably 7 blocks depending upon where you go. You can taxi it fairly cheaply as well.

There are lots of people who speak English in Caracas. But you will be seen as a tourist. So, non-pro action might be tough. The fact that you are Brits might help. If you lived in So Fla, were a US citizen, and you spoke Spanish, you would Venezuelana's dream.

For Pro action, it can range from some of the lower end places down town. (Walk in and fuck, for $10 - 20) upto El Morrisson ($200/hr + a $30 bar fine.) It depends upon your budget.

My personal recomendation is to get a copy of El Universal and look under massajistas in the classifieds. You will need some basic Spanish or at least a Spanish/English dictionary. Write out what you want to say and talk to the girl. You will get the non-local price but you will be looking at the $30 - 50 for the first hour. This link will get you to their web page.

http://clasificados.eluniversal.com/09/05/02/

If you get a girl you like and want a longer period of time or a repeat, negotiate with her directly. Times are hard. She'll probably bite for something reasonable.

If you budget (based upon your hotel it might) allows you the high end. Go to El Morrisson after about 10 PM. But expect to pay top dollar.

These two strategies will get you the best looking girls in my opinion.

The Eurobuilding is guest friendly if it is not too late at night (use 11PM as a guide if you call an escort, anytime is good if you are bringing back take out from El Morrisson.) My experience with this hotel in the past was there were 1/2 a dozen working girls/women in the lobby, by the pool, and at the bar. I went there recently and these seemed to be gone but it may have been the week because there seemed to be several large events there. I say working women because the range seemed to be from early to mid twenties to late forties/early fifties.

Good luck. Caracas is not the best hobbying town in S/A but there is action available. Margarita is a different story from what I hear. Local action is available at very reason prices with good quality but Spanish is necessisary. If you don't speak Spanish, hobbying will be only in the tourist haunts and more expensive.

My Margarita prediction for your Xmas travellers.

BTW.
Margarita will be as Venezuelans like to say "full" from dec 15th thru the New year. The place will be jam packed. A friend having recently returned says it´s "dead" right now.

That changes on Dec. 15

The island will be full of venezuelan hotties on vacation, tanning, partying and looking to have a good time.

No Spanish?
British?

could be a problem.

28 is good.
Not fat, I hope?
Blonde hair, and especially blue eyes a big plus.

I suspect Senor Frogs will be jammed to the gills. Try your luck there. Be friendly, Venezuelans love to meet new people and are friendly themselves.

Don´t look desperate/drool.
It might be hard not to do. But try.

If you go looking for hookers, you will be taken to several places completely geared towards FOREIGNERS and will be asked fucking stupid prices. like $100US by skanks who you won´t want to look at after having seen normal girls at Frog`s.

at your age, my advice is try to hook up with some younger Venezuelans who speak some English (yes, there are a fair amount, their speaking ability varies) and then have them "introduce you" and go from there.

best of luck.

Hi Zippy or someone answer me PLEASE More demonstrations in Chavez Land. Lots of tear gas the other day in the streets of Caracas. WHEN THIS NUT CHAVEZ Be OVERTHROWN? Man this Guy must be stopped. Is the Economy going to shits with this guy if not Why Not????? He is Totally Insane. Sorry But This Asshole Chavez Really pisses me off,,,,,,,,,,, NIBU R......

Catire,

Many thanks for the info, it is pretty much as I hoped it would be. Unfortunately, neither of us have blonde hair, but we're both fit and like a good laugh, so hopefully things should fall into place when we get there. Just as a matter of interest, why could being British be a problem? A friend of mine has a Venezuelan girlfriend who has come to live over here in the UK, and both my friend(who worked over there for a year) and his lady said that it was "gringo's", as in Americans, that they got a bit weird with. That's not my opinion of course, without the Yanks our little island would have had it's butt kicked along time ago, and for that I am truly grateful.

Just in case our amazing looks and sharp humour (yeah right, in my dreams) fail to get the women flocking to us, would you by any chance know the names of the tourist places where we can pay top dollar and get ripped off? You know how it is, 10 beers or so and the tunnel vision sets in...


Big Johnson,

Again, thanks. I reckon El Morrison sounds like the answer, I'll post a report once I leave, I'm heading on to Havana for 5 weeks straight from Venezuela.

Cheers,

Tomster.

Fit and sociable/liking a good laugh will get you at least halfway home, especially on a party island at the biggest party time of the year. The only people looking for hookers at that time of year will be foreigners.

as to British vs gringo. Well, I think it all depends. But. IMO I think they (Venezuelans) are slightly more comfortable with Americans and more used to hearing American English. Depending on their class and their political orientation, they might share different views on Americans. Chavez supporters would tend to take a dim view of gringos, for example. Gringos, generally being rather arrogant and clueless, do catch a lot of flack, but they are more popular in Venezuela than most other Latin countries.

the most hated people in Latin America are of course, Argentinians, but that´s a story for another day.

I´ll get you a place or two to get ripped by old and fat/ugly skanks if I get a chance.
I remember one place that a girl called "Moody´s" or something like that.?

Morrison´s is the answer for WHAT?
it´s way too expensive. talent there is "fair".
I suppose if you want an all nighter or say several hours and you are only in town for one night then I guess it`s the best way to go. But you will pay around $100 US just to take them out and another $100 for the girl - which is really a cruel cruel joke.

Havana to Caracas is 3.5 hours and will cost you about $330 roundtrip on Aeropostal.

Hi Tomster...

I can help you out a bit since I live in Caracas. This is just my opinion and is based on an American-gringo's experiences living here for over a year and a half.

First of all, in my opinion, Venezuela in general is NOT a quality P4P destination unless you have a ton of cash burning a hole in your pocket. I don't participate much here because of that reason and prefer to try my luck with the pretty non-pro's who are in abundance and who generally like gringos (although you'll have even better luck outside of Caracas in cities such as Maracay, Valencia, etc. where there are even less gringos).

Speaking of gringos, the vast majority of Venezolanos do not distinguish between Brits, Americans, Australians, etc. They consider us all gringos (general rule if you're white-skinned, don't speak Spanish, and originate from north america or Europe, chances are, you will be referred to as a gringo. This is not an offensive remark by the way, just a descriptive one).

The ONLY reason a pretty Venezolana would prefer an American is possibly because she wants to move there and/or she has relatives there.

Now, as the other poster stated, Las Mercedes is totally safe at night to walk around. There are many good discos to hit in this area for non-pros- For a nice disco, you could hit Studio 54, for a more "middle class" disco there's Alcatraz (I find the chicas easier to talk to here), and for a younger, single, college-age crowd (my personal favorite) hit "U" Club. "U" Club has cheap beer and more single chicas.

Another disco I enjoy is called "La Gartos" which is about 15-20 minutes from Las Mercedes but it is usually packed with chicas lindas on Thurday and Saturday nights (best night Thursday usually).

Concerning P4P opportunities- It is correct that to find anything of quality in Caracas, you probably are going to have to hit the strip club circuit where you'll have to spend some dough. Personally, I wasn't impressed with Morrison's- I would suggest "Angelo's" near Altamira in a shopping mall or "El Saxo" in Sabana Grande.

By the way, any taxi driver will know where any of these places are (legitimate and non-legit places). ANd if they don't know, they'll ask someone. Taxi's are safe in Caracas although always negotiate before you agree to go anywhere (NEVER pay more than BS. 4000 unless it is after 1AM and then I wouldn't pay any more than Bs. 5000).

The escort ads in El Universal are hit or miss, unfortunately. I've had some very good experinces starting from Bs. 40,000, however, I've also been sent duds. Every now and then I like to take a chance to see who shows up and I figure I can always send them back (always with cab money) if I'm not satisfied.

Isla Margarita- I'll be hitting Playa El Agua next week for my second time so I'll be sure and post some updated info. upon my return. The place that Catire is referring to is called "Woody's" and it is a decent place filled with pros AND non-pros. The pros usually make it fairly obvious they are pros, so don't worry. I'll let you know more about Isla Margarita en general when I return next week.

Catire.

I second your opinion about Argies.
Also peruvians realy "don't like" Argies.....;-)(not to mention the chilians or the Brasilians....!!)
They are welknown for their arrogant and snobish behaviour as they (the Argies) think they are not South-Americans but Europeans...!!!yeah right...

I saw in Peru a lot of pro feelings for Brasil (was there during World cup football you know June this year)!

Zippy: you are right. Even in Peru I was called sometimes gringo. Althought the people knew I was NOT an Americano;-)
Even if you speak spanish they'll refer to you as mr. gringo.

Johan.

Sorry Johan I would disagree most Chileans have the attitude problem. Right now Chile is number 1 in the economy in SA. They still have that PInoSHIT Complex. Argies hate Chileans and many Chileans hate Argies,Peruvians and Bolivians......

Zippy, thanks for your last report on the different discos in Caracas. You seem to know Venezuela, do you have any info on Valencia, both pro and non-pro ... i'm in Caracas about 10 nights a month but would like to venture out to other cities. From your experience, are the girls from Venezuela, Caracas or other cities as gringo friendly and warm hearted as the girls from Cali, Colombia? Thanks ... i like your reports ... good info and not too much political BS that no one cares about.

I think Zippy might say few things beat Monday nights at Alcatrazz in Las Mercedes.

I also think Zippy likes Valencia.

Btw.. anyone know that Valencia is known as the city of sweet oranges and beautiful women? as the Venezuelan saying goes?

does anyone care?

Ok. How about the fact that there is high percentage of homosexual males in Valencia?

Catire,

Sorry it's taken me a few days to return the post, things have been a little crazy for me over the last few days, but back to normal as of tonight.

Firstly, as a Brit, and for no other reason than that, I would like to lend my support to the anti-Argentinian argument. Can I do that? :)

Tell me, if Chavez supporters take a dim view of Gringo's all the time, is there any way of spotting a Chavez supporter? I really look forward to your answer...

And thanks for the other info - between you and Zippy you've been very helpful.


Zippy,

As I said above above, thanks v much for the info. We are only in Caracas for 1 night(a Saturday by luck), and it looks like we'll head on over to "U" club when we get there. There's no crazy dress code or anything is there? We kinda count on dressing up a bit anyway, but best not to get caught with our pants down, if you know what I mean... And what time does it get going in there? We've got a flight over to Margarita at 9:30am the following morning, and I guess that after the 12 hour international flight we're going to be a bit wasted.

We are spending the bulk of our holiday on Margarita, so I look forward to your post on the Playa. Have fun.

Anyways, thanks again you two, your info is worth it's weight in diamonds.

Tomster.

Yes, I definitely agree, Catire! I have met some great chicas on monday nights at Alcatraz (Ladies night- Ladies free, Bs. 20,000 per ******). In fact, I was just there last monday night with my bro who was visiting from the US and he was amazed at the 3 to 1 male/female ratio and by how hot and young the chicas were. However, Alcatraz usually isn't as great on other nights from my experience. Even on Mondays, Alcatraz doesn't get happening until 1 am or so.

I've been to Valencia a few times and there are many beautiful chicas there (and they are even more approachable than Caracas). There aren't as many gringos around Valencia as compared to Caracas and it is very easy to meet non-pros there. But the P4P is absolutely terrible! I've never seen such ugly strippers in my life in a strip joint called "Hollywood". And the bars with pros lack any decent quality IMHO.

For a good balance of beautiful non-pros and decent P4P opportunities near Caracas, I'd recommend Maracay (2 hours sw of Caracas). I travel there often since I have a gf there.

Tomster- You'll like U club, I believe. The dress code is casual, however, it is a good idea to look at least a little nice since Venezolanas do appreciate men who dress nice.

U Club gets going after 12 (however, a good time to get there is 11ish to find a place to stand and get a couple of beers in you before the massive crowd shows up- the place is always PACKED) and stays happening until 3 or 4 am. It's always a late night out in Caracas...

Going to Isla Margarita tomorrow- will return with some updated info...

Thanks Zippy,

Have fun on Margarita.

Tomster.

re: Chavistas and their attitudes towards gringos.

it depends.

The American embassy has warned US citizens here to stay away from demonstrations and be very careful, which I suppose is wise, but I also think that the American embassy likes its citizens in nice all inclusive resorts or in countries which "fully cooperate" with the United States, meaning they know or can know all about you.

so basically fuck the US embassy.

Generally speaking Chavistas are easy to spot. They will wear red berets, other things of that nature, Che t shirts., etc
Both sides wrap themselves up in the flag, and national colors.

the trouble with Chavistas is that many of the most radical ones are completely uncontrollable, even by Chavez, so you might be shit out of luck if they see you somewhere, and decide you are part of the filthy rich establishment etc.

On the other hand, most probably like foreigners, ESPECIALLY if you state that you agree with their cause. (wise thing to do if in such company, or shut mouth about politics, period)

It should also be said that most foreign visitors to Caracas almost never stay anywhere CLOSE to Chavista strongholds, though the hilltops surrounding the Hilton might qualify.

if you´re staying at Euro building and hanging out at Las Mercedes you are in "esqualido" country (squallid ones) and you will not find any Chavistas there.

one thing I forgot.

Don´t want to sound "classist" but you will spot the difference in classes and between Chavez fans and opponents a MILE away.

And I can guarantee that all the girls you will be staring at will be of the "upper class" variety.

Hey Zippy,

Thanks for all your posts, including the ones from Colombia ... they are very good.

I am actually thinking about moving to Caracas also ... i lived in Guatemala city for 2 years but time for a change. I will split time between Miami and Caracas ... maybe 10 - 12 days a month in Caracas. Any tips would be appreciated. You can e-mail me at
ricker001@hotmail.com .... if you have time.

Thanks.

Ricker, why don`t you give me a tip on how to get any kind of half ass decent job in Caracas, presuming you are not already an expat in the oil business, etc?

Catire,

Sorry, I have no tips or ideas on finding jobs in Caracas. I work in the U.S. and usually work 2 weeks straight with 2 weeks off ... so i like to live half the month away from the U.S.
Like I said, i lived in Central America for a while but it's time for a change ... take care.

Tomster I am now in Santiago del Estero Argentina I disagree Chileans are the Pain in the ass in SA. I do not hate them but they hate too many people, Always be careful in chile many rip offs in Chile,,,,,, NIBU R...........

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Catire
[i]one thing I forgot.

Don´t want to sound "classist" but you will spot the difference in classes and between Chavez fans and opponents a MILE away.

And I can guarantee that all the girls you will be staring at will be of the "upper class" variety. [/i][/QUOTE]

Don't worry about sounding classist to me buddy, I'm British!!!

Do you mean that the upper class women are likely to be Chavez supporters?


Nibu,

I would have thought the Chileans would be quite chilled :)

Tomster

Hi Tomster no Chile is more or less a ripoff But Damn I need to return back thru Chile in a few weeks by a bus to get back To Lima Peru. Man in San Pedro De Atacama So many stuck up Chileans. Argies are way cooler then Chieans and the price of food is better in Argie and the food is damn better ARGENTINA 1 Chile 0.....................

Nibu,

That was supposed to be a joke.

Tomster.

I know Tomster But Chile is so over damn priced for A Sa Country and not Latin friendly like other countries sure Argentina is not friendly like Peru,Bolivia or Ecuador but much more friendlier then Stuck Up Chile,,,,, NIBU R................

a job in Miami with 2 weeks on, 2 off would highly interest me. Even 3 on and 1 off would very highly interest me!

Tomster:

Stayed at the Eurobuilding hotel. The night consierre is "Marshall." He was a terrific help. He first tried to make some phone calls for me to girls from

www.sexycaracas.com

(check jardinerotico.com and 800chicas.com as well)

but the hour was late and it was tough to arrange. He then showed me a list of girls he keeps on his computer, and arranged for one to come to my room. $75 total, no tipping expected. He even sent up complimentary sodas when she asked.

The girl he sent me was "April" or "Abril" I guess. She was very pleasant to look at, 22, skinny, small tits but nipples to hang your jacket on, and a nice attititude, although a bit spacy. She occasionally breaks out in song, which I found a bit disturbing....

Anyway, half-way through, I was having trouble communicating with her (my spanish is passable, but not in all contexts), and he did a fantastic job of translating. Turned out to be a great experience.

Marshall is the concierge on the executive side, by the way.

Anyway, if the difference between the girls from the websites and the newspapers is only $40, it may be worth it. Take a second look at Barbie, among others in sexycaracas.com

Have fun and be careful!

Jav

Javmav,

Thanks for the info, that line about the girl breaking out into song was pure quality.

I am travelling with a friend form the UK, and we managed to book the Eurobuilding over the net for 99 dollars per room, so I don't think we will have the benefit of using Marshall's service's if he looks after the executive side of things. I will probably try to sort something out with one of the other consierre's though, as neither of us speak a word of Spanish. Could be interesting, I'll let you know how we get on.

Out of ten, how many would Barbie get?

Thanks,

Tomster.

Zippy more protests the other day. What the Hell isa going on in Chavezland??????

Hey Tomster,

You'll like the hotel. You can certainly use Marshall's services regardless of where your room is. When you come in the main entrance, just bear right so the front desk is on your left. Follow the hallway around, and you come to the executive side. Maybe 200' total.

Or, simply call the operator from your room and ask to speak to him. I'm sure the others are helpful, but I KNOW he is.

Before I met him, I had security guys helping me. They got a big kick out of the experience, but worried about their boss, it seemed.

I've never met Barbie, but found her pictures to be stimulating, and somebody favorably reviewed her on the ***, and I spoke with her briefly. April I'd give a 7 in looks, 7 in attitude, and 7 in attitude. This is the Latin Scale, which would translate to 9+ on the domestic U.S. version.

By the way, at www.sexycaracas.com, the link to PDA works really well. You follow the instructions to update your handheld through Avantgo.com, and your left with a picture reminder and phone number for all of the girls.

Hope things settle there -- I'm tired of staying out by the airport...

Jav'

Jav,

Thanks for the info. Unfortunately, due to the crazyness going on in Venezuela, I've had to change travel plans and will be headed over to good old faithful Thailand instead. Although I have a couple of British friends currently travelling around in Venezuela who said things are not as bad as they seem, I didn't want to take the risk of getting caught in Caracas whilst getting to Margarita (I don't speak any Spanish). So yeh, bummer, but all things considered I think I've made the right call.

Gonna miss that Latin Style pussy though; I was looking forward to that like nothing else...

Thanks again for all the info Jav, I plan on getting over there as soon as things get better, and I will post all experiences.

Cheers,

Tom.

Hi Tomster,

I understand your decision. I also would not go right now to venezuela (or Colombia).

If you are realy keen on latin puzz (and who isn't???!!!) why didn't you take another famous latin destination to Brasil or Peru???

Lots of willing latina pussies there man:-)

From what I hear Thailand is good and cheap....many men like it.
But the thing is Thai women aren't latin....and that what keeps me going to SA:-)

Latin Puzz RULES.

Johan.

Zippy any new updates on Caracas? What is new with the massage scene??

I live in florida and I want to fly into Caracas on the 14th, already have puss selection and she will meet me at airport. Should I be afraid? Could I maybe stay away from the city and be safe?

Macuto is a nearby little town....any ideas?

Your input would be most appreciated.

No, you shouldn't be afraid to go to Caracas. Yes, there is some political instability right now, however, if you avoid the marches/protests, you'll be fine. Some good advice is to ask a local what is going on and then do what they say.

It's funny but CNN and FOX News make it seem like Caracas is in the middle of a civil war, but it isn't nearly as bad as they claim. I'm not saying it won't happen here someday (and maybe soon) but right now, it seems as if the national strike is losing steam and the Opposition will have to wait until August to try and oust Chavez constitutionally.

By the way, chicas here in Venezuela are real cheap right now as the Bolivar has fallen to about 1900/US $1...

Zippy,

Could you be more specific when you say the "chicas are real cheap right now" How much for what kind of sexual service from what kind of provider (SW, escort, etc)? Thanks. J.G.

Fair question, J.G. It depends where you go for chicas here in Caracas and actually Catire is more of an expert on prices. But I will do my best:

Escort girls from El Universal newspaper- range from BS. 40,000 (US$22) to about 100,000 (US$ 54) and up per hour.

Massage parlor girls- Bs. 40,000 - 100, 000 ranging from legitimate massage to full service

Hotel girls- Bs. 60,000 - 150,000 per hour including room.

Strip club girls- Bs. 100,000 - 250,000 per hour.

Catire, care to comment??

Thanks Zippy. How about the girls from sexycaracas.com, any lowering of their prices? Any info on the SW prices?

Venezuela has always been expensive, but maybe the same situation as Argentina is happening there too. J.G.

The question isn't the price for girls in Caracas, the question is the price of those taxis from the airport to Caracas. With no gasoline available, I would imagine that taxis are few and expensive these days.

Actually I had no problems finding a reasonably priced taxi from the airport to Caracas about 3 weeks ago. I paid Bs. 18,000 (about US $10).

By the way, the gas situation has improved somehat in the last 2 weeks or so and I've never had a problem finding a taxi (at normal prices, I might add).

Never tried SexiCaracas since they cater to gringos tourists who don't mind paying a shit load more money for some action. NEVER pay for anything in dollars in Venezuela!

I was pleasantly surprised in a Club Angeles in Caracas this weekend. Some quality girls in a nice environment. Very pleasantly surprised because friends had told me the place was a dive. You can go and sit for awhile having drinks that are reasonably priced while some girls dance while others mingle. There is a center stage were thay actually attempted to do a little synchronized burlesque with about 6 girls. It was O.K. The place is very spacious, not a dark hole in the wall. There are maybe 15 to 20 girls wandering around. Half are very decent and 3 or 4 were top notch. One girl from the Dominican Republic spoke very good English. If you go, look for her, she has a pierced lower lip for some odd reason. It does not do her justice, she was beautiful, young and had a great body. We did a bit too much of the drinking and left around 3:00 a.m. taking two girls with us after a bit of wrangling. They are not permitted to go home with patrons. Rooms in the club with beds and TVs are supposed to be used after paying the club between 120,000 and 200,000 Bolivares. We managed to get our little friends to leave and we picked them up a few blocks away.

We paid them each 50,000 Bolivares and they were very pretty girls with very tight bodies. My friend claimed to be 18, i suspect she was or a little younger. Great place.

Earlier in the night we went to another place called Club Saxo I think. It was fairly empty and had mediocre girls but also 1000 times better than the nasty clubs in Valencia.

Zippy,

Thanks for the info, kinda figured everyone is overeacting.
How much is the Eurobuilding per day, is that the best place to be for the money? I should pay in Bolivars?

Any other tips anyone would share before my trip?

Some help please:

Will be going to caracas next week

Which is the best hotel to hobby from? euro seems to be mentioned often any others that i should look at?

I need the best club to pick girls from at night also.

Price is not an object, quality is. Not that I'm going around pissing money away. I want 8's or better choice wise.

Thanks in advance

starfe

caracasEd ,

Is there any way to email you speak to you on the phone?
I plan on coming down next week.

The ony flights I could get would keep me in caracas for 6 nights.
is that overkill. speaking no Spanish I might need someone to book the girls for me.

That means paying a fee for the work I can not do.

Is 6 days way to much?

starfe

[blue]Hi Guys,

I appreciate everyone's contributions to the Forum, but could everyone please start using proper capitalization in their posts? The Forum is a permanent archive of information, not a chat room, and I'm trying to improve the quality of its content.

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I am booked for the 14th in Caracas, i will stay at the Euro.
The pricing wasn't that bad when you consider what they are getting per night in Curacao which I really would have enjoyed visiting.
I have a awesome 20 y.o. meeting me at the airport and I hope the political situation remains calm for a few days.
Any last moment places or tips anyone would share will be appreciated as I rely heavily on this forum before travel anywhere.

Conditions are not good in Caracas at the moment. The entire city suffered a blackout this morning, and there may have been a second about 5 minutes ago. This is not a temporary problem.

Also, currency conversion from dollars to bolivares is nearly impossible.



[QUOTE]Originally posted by alistedmale
[i]I am booked for the 14th in Caracas, i will stay at the Euro.
The pricing wasn't that bad when you consider what they are getting per night in Curacao which I really would have enjoyed visiting.
I have a awesome 20 y.o. meeting me at the airport and I hope the political situation remains calm for a few days.
Any last moment places or tips anyone would share will be appreciated as I rely heavily on this forum before travel anywhere. [/i][/QUOTE]

Blackout problem:

A national park on the northern border of Caracas, which is
called Parque Nacional El Avila. Its the mountain range that divides Caracas
from the Caribbean Sea.

This mountain range has several 260.000 volt electrical towers and due to dryness on the vegetation wildfires sparkle up on several locations across the park. One of them affected the power line that brings electricity from Tacoa Plant to Caracas, but the national electrical interconnection supplied
the power five minutes after the power lines were affected.

Explorer8939,

Have things improved over the last few days. Is it enough to want to drive you out. I am having second thoughts.Give me reasons why i should go now and not later.
Are you staying at the Eruo hotel? Feeling safe there?

alistedmale,

Are you still a go for march 14. I was to arrive mar 12 for 5 nights.

I am under the name a. Katz , that's if i go.

Wish there were more posters but that is saying alot regarding who wants it the most.

Guidance please??????????????

Starfe

American Airlines has added non-stop flight between Caracas and DFW starting April 6th

Blackout was result of fire on El Avila mountain, per article. Loss of electricity is not an ongoing and continuing problem.

the most amusing line is this one?

<I>Also, currency conversion from dollars to bolivares is nearly impossible</I>

I suspect what he wants to say in conversion from bolivares into dollars is impossible.

EVERYONE wants dollars and they will pay you much more than the official 1600 to 1 exchange rate. going black market rate around 2200-2400 to 1.

The Eurobuilding is kind of remote, stashed away, even from the adjoining nighttlife of Las Mercedes. You have to take taxis from and to.

The taxi drivers will love you. And make themselves a lot of money by overcharging.

I suppose that's not an issue for a short visit/trip.

the best hotel for "hobbying" might be the Caracas Hilton - but only if you're calling outcall, etc.

Callgirls make their way thru that business hotel like a fly makes its way to a fresh piece of shit.

Not a great location though - dangerous outside at night.
but since you'll be taking taxis all the time yet again (just like you would have from Euro - not an issue)

Since money isn't an object - hit Morrison's.
There's a Colombian/Venezuelan/Dominican sister combo to die for. One of the sisters (the one who dances) has a boob job, the other one does not.

If you can exchange dollars for bolivares at 2300 to 1 or so, Morrison't won't be so outrageausly expensive.

Oh- I forgot.

Want what might be the best upper end hotel in Caracas - BEST and secure location?

JW Marriott in El Rosal.

I can steer you to a nice little incall place, for 90K room included for an hour a very one safe block walk.

I'd stay at the Marriot. And don't pay more than $120 US a night. No Venezuelan does!

Damn, forgot to add

American has always flown to CCS from Dallas Ft Worth. These flights aren't new. However, many were suspended during Ven anti Chavez strike that began Dec 2 and fizzled out a month ago.
But AMR has always flown Dallas-Caracas.

re: Marriott- it's no a problem having guests. Hotel was recently built, and its location is best in Caracas because it's so centrally located. (all the" action" not too far away from there as well)

Catire,,

Thanks for your post. I re-booked my trip for a non stop flight in april and also booked the marriott.

Starfe

Lack of electricity continues to be a problem in Caracas. The entire country is getting low voltage, so everyone's alarm clock is running slow, so everyone is late, which means that there's less electricity. Seriously.

Dude, why are you going to Caracas?
is this JUST a "going to get laid" trip?

try to learn at least some Spanish.

Yo Dude,

So my 37 trips to Japan, Korea , Hong Kong , Singapore and Thailand ( Taiwan): I forgot to learn the language there. Oh and Bali + most of Africa over the years, and then what about Europe.

How stupid of me not to take a language course first!!!!!!!!!!!

What's your point?

Yes, I am going there to get laid?



Starfe

My point is..

never mind.

I think I'm going to keep my mouth shut from now on.


Have a good trip.

I think what Catire was insinuating (correct me if I am wrong, Catire) is that you'll have a much better time in Caracas if you have at least some knowledge of Spanish. Sure, you can do the "point and click" thing but w/o speaking at least basic Spanish, you will pay a lot more and most likely get a sub-average performance.

Also, he was perhaps going to point out some other "non-mongering" places to visit. But obviously, you're not interested in that which is fine.

If you are traveling only for mongering purposes, I believe you'd be better off in Colombia or Brazil (or Cuba if this crackdown ever ends). But perhaps you are in Caracas for business, also...

Zipster, I believe we can already predict how this little trip will end up, can't we" :) ???

For starters, he'll spend LOTS of money :)

actually, I was going to point out some mongering places. But after that snide and condescending response which came after I helped the guy out when he was hanging out there on a vine with no help in sight - fuck it.

I've helped the guy out plenty already. Now I think it's best to leave Mr. I've been everywhere and money is no object, I'm going there to fuck all to his own.

We've seen plenty of this around town, so we have a good idea of how it will go down :)

Catire,

You made your point. I am to lazy to learn spanish. I have a good contact in Caracas. I booked the Marriott on your say so.

Yes i overpay but not by much since my spanish is nill.

By the way, if they don't stop this desease spreading all over asia SOON, many countries will close their airports to keep people out.

This is starting to look like a World Killer . Watch Japan, they will be the first to shut down incoming flights!!!!!!!!!

Sorry for being rude.

Satrfe

Catire, What is the name of the incall place near the J.W. Marriott?

American Airlines canceled there non stop flights to Caracas.

Catire,

Help please:

Are there any termas in Caracas for afternoon or early evening romps?


Thanks

Starfe

Termas, in the Brazilian sense you understand them, do not exist in Caracas.

per your question - here's one option

go walk to Chacaito shopping center (easy and fairly short walk from Marriott) and then walk downstais, where there is seemingly nothing but a parking lot or an entrance to a restaurant.

There are stores down there as well.
There is also a "bar" - you'll see that familiar neon type signs that only such clubs have, to your left as you get down.

It's an American Bar that is open from 1pm until midnight.
I wouldn't go until a bit later in the afternoon as I suspect the selection gets better say around 4 pm.

You'll have to buy 2 drinks for the girl, pay for the room and then pay the girl. Overall, it'll probably run you around 110K bolivares or so. (Bar will get 40-50K, and the girl will get 50-60)

You also get a qtr bottle of whiskey for your exactly timed "hour" of fun.

If the pricing they quote you is much higher than what I write above, you're being taken for a "gringo" ride.

Another reason to try to learn some Spanish. good luck

Catire,

Thanks for the reply. I will keep the post for my future trip to Caracas.
I ended going B.A. for a week instead.


Best reagards,

Starfe

Fellow mongers,
My second time this month in Caracas, I rely on the guidance of this forum, my flight is out to Miami in two hours. Thought this would be a good time to post while all is fresh.
Originally, I came to Caracas for a girl that Ii was introduced to as I enjoy the girlfriend experience a bit more. However after 8 days, two trips and spending time with what i will argue a 10, (photos to substantiate this), I decieded to check out the mongering scene as she as my chica works a job 8 hours with a insurance company.
I read all the posts, Angelos, El Saxo, That special little bar underground where I read you can find action as early as 1:00 p.m.
All is real and true!
I went to El Saxo first, chicas range from 4 to 7's and when I'm loaded 7's are fine!
I was loaded and took 2 of them in those little rooms in the back,
a bottle of, I think that was champagne was provided, had one on my balls and one on the "member" i think I paid 250. which included the 3 drinks i had bought for them while decieding which ones.
Next Angelos, a much higher quality and any flavor you prefer!
I choose Morenas, like my girl.
I asked what that was a breakfast and my girlfriend said it is Black with a little white.
I'm sure you pros know much more of this than me.
Anyway, Angelos has a great selection, there are several rooms in the back and a bar with no alcohol,( i guess this is where control central is), While I am back there, one after another chicas appear. I knew I would need to limit myself to two, and off to the Marriot!
Sorry, i'm not sure what I paid, i'm sure it was too much.
1 Hour with two girls in my room was fun enough!
Then the good news, today.
At the Marriot there is a driver by the name Jose.
I had read that a.m. action was almost non existing here and since i am a early bird, it was my last day, thought I would check it out.
Jose and I set outTo Plaza de Venezuela area where I had picked up a girl with i think it was her aunt for 47. for two hours.
Did i forget this one?
Anyway, nothing there at 10 a.m. on a monday morning.
Finally we go to Chacaito Plaza where thetre is a Streetmarket of sorts and quite a bit of activity.
Jose takes me to these two houses with no less than 3 floors of *****s!
This was perfect for me!
They range from 8 per 20 minutes, to 14 per 20 minutes!
One house 3 doors down from Broadway cinema, is called Voltar I think.
Three floors of mostly ugly girls with a couple of 7" and 1 8.
One block down and a half block to the right was another.
We went up and these were slightly better.
On the third floor, I look in the corner and there she was! A solid seven and with the performance she gave, a 8 easily!
She asked 40,000. Bolivars per hour, I negotiated to 30,000.
Off to Marriot for 2 hours and she was the sweetest most accomodating little thing I have met.
Size 2, 34 full b, I had to ask her to quit sucking and she was really great at it. Did I say stop?
She left 30 min ago,
here is here cellphone, 04167288163, her name is Katerin, no english.

The short time three floor *****house (though the *****s are on 2nd and third floors) is in a building called

Edificio Volta.

The other place is 2 floors with the *****s on the second floor.

I did one quick run thru Ed. Volta and was singularly unimpressed and not into being the 10th or worse to fuck a girl that day, I demurred.

Angelus changes a lot depending on whether it's a good night (like Thu or Fri night) or a bad one (Sun, Mon)

Question?

What was your fee to take them out of Angelus?? I thought they all stayed there - had to stay there and did their incalls there?
or was this after the place closed?

And re the "*****house" - same thing - I'd never looked into it but If it's allowed to take a girl out (or did you wait until she was "off duty") - how much did the establishment charge you outside of your negotiations with the girl.

Cuz I know it wasn't just free.

I'm sure you can find a decent looking, sweet diamond in the rough in those places but believe you me, having walked by those buildings countless amounts of times day in and day out -

Those girls see a LOT of dick.

Probably just a little too much for my taste. But to each their own.

What's this??

"Jose takes me to these two houses with no less than 3 floors of *****s!
This was perfect for me!
They range from 8 per 20 minutes, to 14 per 20 minutes!"

I am going to assume you are referring to prices.

In Edificio Volta they're standard - 12K bolivares. For all.

I think Ed. Volta and the other place are open at least 16 hours a day.

Two shifts.

A morning shift and evening one.

Yes there are two shifts.
I was not charged a exit fee and the rate was, 30000. per hour.
I originally went for three, and then at the hotel decieded on two.
60000 total and I was very please with this considering the prices at Angelos.
Angelos to the hotel was no problem, i brought two back to the marriot. It was funny, my debit card was not working and the hotel paid the girls!!!
I signed a voucher.
How much? Way too much I fear. 475000. my best guess.
I sat and bought three of them drinks and that was included as well.
I will return!

I have this image of the good English speaking educated Venezuelan desk clerk (male or female) at the Marriott paying out a couple of hos at the front desk. that's funny!

475K
on Angelus premises it's 160K an hour I think. 180 tops.
so on premises for two it would be 320-360K.

they didn't have to give you any bottle of whiskey hmm.
the house made 80K or so off a salida type fee anyways.

Interesting that the *****house charged no salida.
I wonder what out of that 30, the girl had to kick back.
Maybe 10 - and get her ass back in no more than hour and a half.
I'd imagine that's an unusual situation anyways.

Those places are visited by 99% Venezuelans.

Been perusing www.sexycaracas.com for a nice massage for an upcoming QUICK trip. However, unlike previous trips, I'll be staying at the Hampton Inn, probably close to the airport.

Anyone know their guest policies?

Also, any websites on par with sexycaracas.com or 800chicas.com?

Will file a report post-trip!

Jav'

[QUOTE]Originally posted by JavMav
[i]Been perusing www.sexycaracas.com for a nice massage for an upcoming QUICK trip. However, unlike previous trips, I'll be staying at the Hampton Inn, probably close to the airport.

Anyone know their guest policies?

Also, any websites on par with sexycaracas.com or 800chicas.com?

Will file a report post-trip!

Jav' [/i][/QUOTE]

http://www.e-extasis.com (in spanish, use a translator web site to translate specific contents on this web site if you must).

Also check: http://www.jolie-femmes.com/index_02.html

Mind you these 2 sites are for Colombians.

If you are planning to travel to Costa Rica, there is much more action there than what you will find in Venezuela or Colombia IMO.

Colombia is very scary right now. Too much terrorism. Venezuela has its political upheaval, seems to be calm at the moment though.

BTW, are you planning a day trip to Isla Margarita? If so, please ask cab drivers there to clue you in on local discos and bars for pick up girls. Very affordable and very secure....these private clubs have dance floors and bars on lower levels, private rooms on upper levels.

I've not done any mongering in Caracas. Your exclusive reports will be helpful for me to deside if I shoud visit Caracas for a one week mongering trip.

Gracias and Feliz Viaje (Bon Voyage!)

Sex_God

Non - stops flighta from Dallas to Caracas starting aug 1 st.

I'm in.

Hi,

I am going to be in Caracas Oct 10 - 19. Im asking for an update (women, clubs, political scene, dangerous places, etc.) Hows the Hilton. I'm staying there.

I hear you can get up to 2800 - 3000 vs. $1 now, and not to exchange at the airport and use your credit card as little as possible ( you get 1600 vs $1 on card.)

Thanks for any help.

Slim

[QUOTE]Originally posted by SLIMJIM
[i]Hi,

I am going to be in Caracas Oct 10 - 19. Im asking for an update (women, clubs, political scene, dangerous places, etc.) Hows the Hilton. I'm staying there.

I hear you can get up to 2800 - 3000 vs. $1 now, and not to exchange at the airport and use your credit card as little as possible ( you get 1600 vs $1 on card.)

Thanks for any help.

Slim [/i][/QUOTE]Unless you change large amounts of $$$ you be getting around 2,500 in the black market. But don't dispair. It is much better than the 1,600 that you can get through the official rate you get at ATMs, credit cards etc.

The downside is having to take cash to CCS which continues to be a very dangerous city.

The upside is that you'll have a bargain of a time in Venezuela now.

With regards to politics, watch closely what's going on with the ongoing Referendum. Things could get bloody again; the question is when will it happen. If it doesn't things will turn bad. Don't get caught in it.

Have a SAFE trip

Women are fine and beautiful and take care of themselves as always.

clubs? as in discos ? how old are you? If you´re much past 30, stick to tascas. Clubs with hos, the taxistas can take you to. Don´t ´expect too much from the working girls. It´s "work" for them.

Hilton´s fine. btw.. it´s in a fairly dangerous area, especially after nightfall. take the cabs. needless to say, as a gringo you will be overpaying each and every time and if you take hotel cabs or those in front of the hotel you will be getting literally robbed.

2800 to 3000 is possible ONLY with certain people and you have to know who is desperate enough to "pay up". 2500 is much more easily obtainable, reasonable. The scammers at the airport who will come up to you asking "change/cambio/money" will quote you a price that will depend on how stupid you look and your Spanish skills.

I don´t think I look that stupid and my Spanish is decent and I was quoted 2400.

btw, take into account security issues when exchanging money. going somewhere with someone you don´t know to change even as little as 500 dollars.... that´s a lot of bolivares that someone might be interested in, not to mention the possibilility of giving you fake money. Familiar with the look and feel of local currency?


yes, dont´change at airport and don´t use CC. Change on black market but I repeat. .. BE CAREFUL!

Slim Jim,

The Hilton is a nice hotel. Nice pool. Good restaurants. Well located. Only a fair Gym though. But, the last couple of times I have stayed and played there, they assessed me a $50 guest fee when an escort came to see me. Now, it might have been the hour (around 10 or 11 PM.) Earlier visits, I had no problem but also made my appointments at 7 or 8 PM. You might be able to avoid this in four ways:

1. Wait for her in the Bar.

2. I have been told that security only watchs the Hilton Honors tower (located directly behind the reception counter.) There is a second tower located near the sushi bar/internet cafe, that is unmonitored and also accessable from the pool/restaurant/bar level. I have even seen older (I mean older) pros hanging out in this area and near the small shopping area near here.

3. Have the bellman arrange something for you. He will certainly be taking a commission and will make things go smoothly.

4. I don't think you'll have problems if your catch comes from Bar Morrisson. Most of these girls are appropriately dressed and normally not "real young" (18, 19, 20 y/o). They look like they belong more in this hotel.

One other thing that used to happen. Near the elevators for the Honors Tower, there was a sitting area. At around 6 PM to 10 PM there used to be a small group of young girls that would sit there and eye unaccompanied men. I think they were working as well but I can't confirm. Most were very attractive. On my last two trips to this hotel, they were not there. But, maybe they might have returned. It's worth a 30 second look.

Good luck. Things should be a bargin right now in the $45 - $70/hour range. Doesn't sound like a bargin but for Caracas, it is. If you speak Spanish, fairly good looking, have the game, and hold a blue passport, try the clubs. There are enough non-pros looking to leave Venezuela, that you'll probably hook up in the discos for free. You'll need to work the work it a little harder than in Colombia or Brazil but it is acheivable if they think that you are being sincere.

A $50 DOLLAR guest fee!

You have got to be out of your fucking mind.

Go to a Venezuelan love motel (the city is crawling with them) and in one of the best ones you will pay 3oK bolivares for pretty much the whole night. That's a little over 10 dollars.

On BJ´s comment about picking up nonpros in discos because they are dying to leave: I wouldn´t put my money on that bet and on you being successful with such a method, but I could be wrong. I´ve been wrong before.

P.S. I would recommend you get the fuck out of the Hilton and instead go to the JW Marriott in El Rosal. Much superior location and no guest fees that I know of (a friend stayed there and wasn't charged)

[size=-2][u]EDITOR's NOTE[/u]: [blue]This report was revised for capitalization and punctuation. In the future, please refrain from using the "chat room" style of writing with no caps or punctuation. [i]Thanks![/i][/blue][/size]

I'm not trying to justify my actions here or defend my position. I am passing on some infomation and impressions.

I don't stay in the Hilton any more, for just that reason. I have stayed in the CCCT, Eurobuilding/suites, and Taminaco without a problem. I would have normally paid the $50 fee except pussy was staring me in the face, I was horny, and didn't want to leave the hotel at 11 pm at night. Maybe it would have made more sense to go on to a "love motel" but call me lazy. I did it once before in Santo Domingo and generally hated the local.

An additional factor was the night this happened, I had the unlucky pleasure of sharing the Hotel with Chavez. (Lot's of security, why he spent the night in the hotel, I'll never know.) I thought it was an anomoly, so I gave them a second chance. When it happened twice, I changed hotels to the above.

As far as non-pro girls. I've done it, I've seen it, and it works. My comparison between Colombianas and Venezuelanas, my be personal experience but I feel the Colombianas want simply a good night out. I think they would also love to get to the promised land but Venezuelanas seem to have that as their prime agenda. Again, just personal feeling.

Slim Jim, Good luck in Caracas. Catire, I am just trying to help a guy out, just like you. I should be there in late September, I will pass on an update on what I see.

Guys, I´m in Caracas now and let me tell you ... las Venezolanas son calientes ... the Venezuelan chicas are HOT!
Was strolling around Sambil, the big mall here, and Wow! I forgot how beautiful these women are.

Angelus is located in Chacaito near Sambil (the mall). All the taxis know it. Not far from the Euro Building. And of course, all mongers welcome.

I found a place also that´s fairly close to Sambil that is open 24 hours a day for chica service. It´s called Hotel Rosalida ... on Avenida Cassanova. Basically a hotel that rents rooms for the hour ... chica included ... cost is 45,000 Bolivares.
Had 4 chicas sitting around when I arrived at about 2pm ... 2 rated as 6´s ... 1 was a 7 ... and of course I picked the lone 8.
Like a dumb shit, I left my digital camera in the room after the service and the chica came running out to return it to me ... I got lucky and I tipped her a $20 bill ... she saved me! I think the tip was more than the service cost.

Exchanged dollars at the airport with a bag porter outside waiting for the hotel van ... 2500 to 1. His name is Walter.

If we meet at Angelus on the 25th ... most likely, we´ll be the only gringos there. I´ve been there a bunch and have never seen another gringo. Nice and friendly place though, full of hot chicas. Little expensive for Caracas but good place to make contacts for the next day or week or whatever. Think full service in-house is about $100 US ... a little steep for here. Take out service is way too much ... don´t know exactly how much just that it´s mucho.

See you there!
Suerte!

the Rosalida is home to at least ONE "estudio" which is why you found what you found. But other than that, it is also just a normal love motel for normal couples who stream in and out of here. At 14K for a room it is about the cheapest in the area , yet CLEAN.

they advertise in ElUniversal under "estudio in Chacaito" since that is exactly where they are, just below the shopping center area. The name of the studio escapes me, but yes it is 45K for the hour. The girls were somewhat average looking if I recall.

Chacaito isnt exactly near Sambil but this depends on your sense of distance. Its walking distance if you like to walk.

2500 is a decent exchange price.

personally I absolutely despise Angelus. It is a clip joint and way too expensive for what they think they offer. Of course it is also quite popular and you will find visiting gringos here but mostly Venezuelan business types, etc. If you think a special dress and more "glam" including a whole lot of plastic tit is your style then more power to you, especially if you think its worth double or triple what you would pay anywhere else.

but I dont even think most of the girls are that attractive though yes there are some exceptional ones. What will always happen is some hag will attach herself to you and suck you for drinks and company etc. The waiters all want you to order a bottle of whiskey (very expensive) and other nonsense.

Morrisons has it own problems but I would take it over Angelus any day of the week.
Ditto for the other strip joints around town which I prefer over Angelus any day of the week (though strip joints are overpriced)

p.s. Ricker is that Sept 25th? maybe I will drop in on you and say hello, maybe show you a better place or two. how will I know it is you and where will you be? angelus is a big place.

I'm in Caracas this week at the Marriott. I saw this "palace" just down the road from the hotel, off of Ave. Venezuela. Anyone know what this is about, I know in other parts of the country they have girls. Any other recommendations besides the place in the mall?

Hey guys, just back from a quick trip to el salvador.
I'm actually meeting one other gringo and a couple of my Venezuelan local buddies on the 25th. Trying to get in touch with them now for an exact plan but so far as I know ...
We're meeting in the daytime to look for some studio chica action, a bite to eat, maybe a trip to Sambil to check out the chicas ... have some friends that work there too.
And ... as of now it looks like Angelus at 9pm still unless something changes soon.
I've actually had fun there ... never bought service ... but have made contacts for daytime service later without having to pay the bar fine or exuberant rate.
Maybe we can move on if it's not so great this night ... no cover charge so no big deal.
I'll be in blue jeans and a blue pullover that says Calvin Klein.

Dante.

you are referring to what looks like Aladins Castle, correct?

it`s actually on Callle Guaicapuro, but no need to split hairs. That`s exactly what the place is called "Aladin".


Aladin actually exists in several cities in Venezuela, and what it is is a very upscale Love Hotel. They have theme rooms, and suites, etc etc etc

the hotel does not provide girls. You bring your own. People that don`t bring their gf`s or wives, make arrangements with an agency beforehand, etc. or they have "regular" girls that they make arrangements with.

Ricker.

Maybe I´ll try to stop by. Angelus is way too fucking big and full of way too many fucking guys for me to walk around and look everyone up and down for blue jeans and a Calvin pullover :)

Catire - Thanks for the info. Would of felt real stupid just showing up there.

Any thoughts about places around Rosal/the Marriott that I could go? What about the ads in the newspaper? I'm just nervous about what might show up.

I am searching for my next country to explore. I have never been to South America and I can get a great deal on airfare to Caracas. Dom Rep veteran and been to Mexico a few times. Me, late 20's, gringo(light hair/bluish eyes), halfway fluent in Spanish. I love amateurs and beaches. Love to dance Merengue, etc. I have always heard that Colombians are the hottest latinas but Venezuelans are 2nd. I was reading posts here and what I seek is a hotel with contact info, gf of course, with a very cheap price, my only requirement is a safe box/safe in the room or in the hotel. I have vacation coming up that I need to use by the New Year and I am looking for a 7 night stay. I all ready have places to go, clubs, etc but really want a lowdown of a clean, very cheap hotel with contact info w/some type of safe. I was debating Colombia but the airfare is more expensive and I don't think a place for a 1st timer to go by himself. Thanks for any help given. By the way, I am not a free loader, I always post about my trips and have several DR trip reports in that forum.
wolverine7l

wolverine, e'mail me. I think I can help you. catirebienbueno@aol.com

dante.
lots of places around that area (generally speaking) going both east and west.

as to newspaper ads and what shows up, well that`s a risk you take. If you don`t like, you will have to politely excuse yourself and at least offer her cabfare home. Many agencies will honor your "refusal" and you won`t have to pay anything but it`s best to square that away when making the call for her to come over.

On here during business and got a colleague of mine from work to phone up Lorena from www.sexycaracas.com. On the website she advertises at $90US per hour. After some negotiation, he got her at 90,000 per hr. I took her for 2 hrs, which worked out at $112 using an exchange rate of $1=1600 bolviars.

Staying at Tamanaco hotel, and we went to have a drink at the pool area. He collected her from the lobby and bought her down. Few guys at bar, eyeballing her. Pretty,23yrs, brunette, about 5' 5", nice ass, reasonable tits. Had a drink and upstairs to room. I had a shower, and she lay on bed, in her thong, legs apart showing her nice shaven pussy. I don't speak any Spanish and she does not speak any English, so communication was a bit of an issue.

She takes me to bathroom and proceeds to give my dick a good wash. Back to room and some BBBJ followed by sex in several positions until I spill my goo into the rubber. She then starts asking me certain word in english like "I want your cook" and I PMSL. Some cuddling and then start round two, more BBBJ and sex again, but I can't come again the second time, so decide to call it a day.

Overall, she was OK, but not fantastic. Has a friend and told me to call her at 11:30pm next day to see both of them...but don't think its worth a repeat.

If you are basing the exchange rate at 1600 to 1 and then reading the pricing on sexycaracas in the English rather than Spanish version (yes they are different) then you are the kind of person that I want to do business with!!!!

Catire ... was wondering if you knew of any hotels in the city that were safe but not outrageously priced. Don't need luxurious at all ... just nice.

Normally I come to Caracas for work and they pay all accommadations, but I just met this Venezolana and want to come on my free time to see her.

Gracias.

define your price territory and define safe (do you mean geographical area) and it shouldn't be a problem.

Town full of so called "3 star" hotels of varying quality, most of them quite acceptable!

Catire,

I'm familiar with the Chacao and Las Mercedes area. Anywhere within 5-10 minute taxi to Sambil area would be fine with me.

By safe I mean 24 hour security guard and not in an area where I'm likely to get mugged in broad daylight.

Price range up to $50 or $60 a night.

I found one place on Ave Cassanova on Yahoo hotels internet for 70,000 Bol cada noche. Think Ave Cassanova is OK security wise?

Thanks

what's the name of the Casanova hotel?

which part? close to which metro station? (Pl. Venezuela, Sabana Grande or Chacaito?)

Casanova during the day is perfectly fine, a little dicier at night though I walk on it constantly without problems. but I wouldn't recommend it to anyone (walking around at night)

Casanova always full of taxis so that's not an isssue (getting around)

one place I saw on casanova worth checking out would be the Hotel Las Americas. it's just below Chacaito. I would suggest checking that place out.

Another place (actually two) would be the hotels above Chacaito, right by the El Doral American bar. There is a Hotel Savoy as you walk up to it (on Francisco Solano) AND there is what looks to be very fancy (but hopefully not TOO fancy)?) brand new Hotel Cumberland, on the other side of the street.

Those would be my top two/three recommendations other than a secret place which I won't give out here.

If you are planning on staying around the El Sambil, La Castellana area and hang out at Angelus, etc

and if your girls is from around there.

then I would check out the Hotel Montserrat just below Plaza Francia in Altamira.

It's not fancy, but very secure location and economical.

good luck.

Catire,

Muchas gracias por la informacion.

I appreciate the hotel tips. I'll check these hotels out when I get to Caracas.

The one I found on the internet is named Coliseo Hotel on Ave Cassanova.

I've got a friend who drives a cab in Caracas ... I'll have him pick me up at the airport and we'll investigate these hotels you've given.

Normally, in my free time I go to Medellin but damn if I didn't meet this sweet, beautiful Venezolana last week ... I need to spend some quality time with this one.

Also Catire ... a friend of mine said he went to a place called "Los Pinos". Basically a casa de chicas ... and he said the quality was pretty good and price fairly low. He went at night at about 10 pm so it's definitely open at night.
My buddy knows nothing about Caracas so he doesn't know what section of the city it's in or anything. He said the Venezuelan said it was a nicer section of the city and it was in a residential area. About 40 minute drive at 9pm from Maiquetia.
Have you heard of this place?

Once again ... thanks.

I stayed at El Coliseo on my first trip to Caracas as a tourist.

You can do MUCH better than that place.

Check out the hotels I told you to look at.

Have not heard of Los Pinos.

if it's 40 minutes at 9pm it sounds like it's OUTSIDE of Caracas.

I can be in Chacaito in 30 mins at that time (no traffic)

Thanks Catire,

Think I'll check out your hotel suggestions with El Coliseo as a backup.

I'll call this Venezuelan guy who took my buddy to Los Pinos and try to get out there and give a report.

I'm thinking of exploring Venezuela a bit more in December ... I have a few weeks.
In your opinion, what towns / cities would be best for both pro action and non-pro gazing?

Some Venezuelan friends say Maracay, Puerto la Cruz, Merida ... but again, they don't know that I also like to visit Pro-establishments (my friends are married couples giving me advice together).

Thanks again.

Your friends are correct.
P4P might not be too good in those places (but find yourself a good cabbie).
If you're in Maracay, hit Choroni on the weekend.

p.s. There is a reason your friends never mention any P4P. That is because they know that unless you have serious blueballs and scare them off, you will get to meet women, if you are a decent looking guy. They lactually ike Americans (shocking but true) and there is such a volume of hotties that hooking up is considered like shooting fish in a barrel (though this might not mean hot nasty sex right away).

Most hookers that I talked to were absolutely shocked that I didn't have a Venezuelan girlfriend.

I am considering spending a few months living in SA learning spanish and culture with Venezuela and Ecuador being on top of my list right now. Once in Panama I ran into a group of Venezuleanas and what a beautiful group of females that was!

Does anyone have any info on Puerto la Cruz, or Caracas, or Merida in that respect? I am 30, and mostly looking to hook up with nonpros. Are they receptive towards gringos? I've heard the standard of living in V is pretty high, does this mean the girls are stuck up. Any experiences? Any advice is appriciated. I in turn will post detailed reports when I go.

I am also considering Ecuador for quality of spanish and low cost of living/safety, but know nothing about what the girls are like there. I should post in E section but if you can give comparison here I would appriciate that as well.

Again, thanks all.

Ecuadorian women can't hold a candle to Venezuelan.

If you bring cash at change on black market, Venezuela might even be cheaper than Ecuador these days. In fact, I would bet that it is.

Re Venezuela

30's a good age. You will do fine with non pros. Gringoess is actually an advantage. Being fit/muscular helps. Blue/green eyes widely admired, light hair helps as well.

Some girls stuck up but most are not.

Go and spend time in Merida. It's dirt cheap and home to the University of the Andes.

What about travel warnings to Venezuela, are those a big concern, in case political cituation changes rapidly while I am there...? I am also considering Argentina but I hear the regular girls are kind of stuck up there.

Thanks Catire. I don't know what would men do without this board.

La Guaira - Maiquetia.

Hello amigos.

I've heard that there is a new hotel by the Simon Bolivar Airport called the Hampton Inn.

I am planning to make a one night stop at Venezuela and I will like more info about the "scene" at la Guaira.

1. Does anybody know if the hotel is Chica friendly and if so, if you have to tip at the reception to allow girls in?

2. If not Chica friendly, can anybody recommend a hotel in la Guaira (close to the airport) that IS chica friendly?

3. Do you know of any Call Girls (escorts or massage) services that delivers to La Guaira?. Any information in this area is greatly appreciated.

Expect by the end of the month my Travel Report on la Guira.

B. Regards.

Mr. Chencho

Mr Chencho,

There used to be an angency that advertised in El Universal for that area but in checking today, they were no longer there. I have not had any bad experiences about bringing girls back to your room any where in Venezuela, except for some hotels looking for a guest fee. The CCCT doesn't like visitors after 10 PM. But, if you go up together, there is normally no problem.

My suggestion is ask the bellman, if that doesn't work, use the taxi drivers (the guys at the airport might be of good use along with the money vendors.)

There should be somewhere because the cruise ships stop there. Can comment on the quality. You might be seeing mostly girls who service sailors. La Guiara is not really a tourist destination but more of working town.

Last resort, go up to Caracas. It will take 20 to 30 minutes each way. The cost should be less than 20 USD RT.

I realize this is very subjective, but can somebody who has been to Rio and/or Buenos Aires, give me a comparison with Caracas? In Rio or Buenos Aires, once you learn the ropes, you have the choice of hundreds of beautiful chicas for $20-$70 per session, with GFE a good possibility if desired. Anything comparable to the HELP DISCO or the Termas or platynum.com.ar in Caracas? Have been to most other locations, trying to decide if Venezuela is worth a visit or if I should stick with the old stomping grounds. I speak fluent Spanish, know how to get around and get over, and am in my 30's. THANKS!!

Chuponalgas,

Here is my opinion. There is no place else in Latin America that has anything exactly like the termas in Rio. You get close in Sao Paulo but that is still Brazil.

In Caracas, you have Morrison, I would say this is a smaller Help or more like Blacks or Playwoman in B. A.

The girls in Caracas are beautiful and with devaluation more affordable. Prior to this, I would say you were looking at $100/hour but now you can get by for 1/2 or 1/3 of that cost, especially for multiple hours.

If I was looking for a place to see alot of girls, for a reasonable price, and GFE, I would look to Peru. I think it is the best value in Latin America.

I also have been reading alot about Guatamala. It looks intrigueing.

Just my two cents.

Morrison's is NOTHING like Help. in any way shape or form, other than the fact that there are hookers there.

If you want to compare Morrison's to a Rio spot, than Barbarella would be a MUCH better answer.

They're both clip joints.

BJ/CAT: I am a little unclear regarding Morrison's. Can you be more specific about selection, quality and price? Barbarella's has a great selection but expensive. Is there the same selection in Morrison's e.g. 50-100 6-10's, as the good Rio places? Is Morrison's the only venue? I want to return the favor by suggesting that you guys might like Panama City. VERY clean and nice and relaxing and cheap living, much shorter flight from USA, excellent selection of Colombianas. A little more $$ for P4P ($80-100/hr), and TLN much more, but what you spend on chicas you save on cheaper hotels, food, and taxis, etc. see my posts in that column.

Barbarella vs Morrison?

no, I would say the selection would NOT be nearly as good.
but it depends on the night. I've seen nights at M with good selection, others with shitty ones. Not as numerous and consistent as Barbarella IMO.

no M's isn't only venue, just the most famous among gringos.
As expensive as M is, it's not horribly bad by current black market exchange standards for gringos thinking in dollars. Many of these shmucks think nothing of blowing a benny for a quickie.

re Panama, if I wanted Colombianas I'd go to Colombia. What about the Panamanian girls? Those sound like idiot gringo prices as well.

Thanks for info on Caracas. Don't wanna go too far off topic, but I have been all over Colombia, kinda dangerous and great for hobby but not much else to do, vs. Panama is completely safe and clean and interesting, and they bring the best Colombianas up. True the Colombiana you pay $30 in Colombia costs $90 next door in Panama, but nobody is gonna kidnap you or rob you in Panama City. The extra $60 per day works out to $420 for seven nights... Frankly, there are some scraggly bars in Panama where you can pay $20, but the girls are a little scary looking. The Panamanian girls are not as fun, pretty, or available, more Indian looking in general and Panama is much better off financially than Colombia, so they can get a real job. YMMV of course.

I should be in Caracas on Wed. Dec. 10 barring any further demonstrations. I was there about 2 1/2 years ago and am some what familiar with the major parts of the city. I'm staying at the Hotel Tamanaco. I speak fluent spanish, but will be traveling by myself, so I don't really plan on wondering the streets to late at night. I've read most of the posts on the thread and wished I would have know this stuff the last time I was here. I was just wondering about where Angelous and Avalon were as well as the Hotel Rosalita. Are they all near Sabana Grande? Where are they in terms of Sambil?

Thanks

Hey, guys,

knowing you are the best resource to be found on the internet, I´d like to ask you for some basic info on Caracas.

Did the same in summer for Mexico City, DF with great success, and tehrefore hope to find something here as well.

First, is the Radisson good for hobbying?
Second, do I get weightlifters stuff free over the counter over there, and if yes, where should I go? Is ther eanything like clothes, electrodomesticos, DVD-systems to be had cheap?
What would be the best place for luxury dining?

Thanks, I really do appreciate all input, fellows!

snark

Snark,

The Radisson (normally called the Eurobuilding in Caracas) is fine with guests. At one time, you could find some workers in the lobby and the bars of the hotel but on my last two visits (Sept and Oct of 2003) they were not there. The talent level was pretty low (old, fat, and ugly) versus other avenues available, so it is just as well.

You can get most anything at a pharmacy without a script. The problem I saw in Venezuela was most medicine was expensive. It was like 3 times the cost of buying it in Colombia. (This may be the result of what I will discuss next if some of the medicine is imported.)

The only cheap or available things in Venezuela are those things that are produced locally. With currency restraints, dollars are almost impossible to get on a significant level. The duty free shop in airport in Caracas had almost nothing but domestic products (Belmont cigarettes, Venezuelan chocolate and Venezuelan rum.) Do not sell your dollars at the bank. Make certain you change them at the prevailing black market rate. So, unless you are looking for oil, chocolate, cigarettes or rum, I would say there is nothing cheap in the electronics area or in consumer merchandise.

As far as fine dining the Las Mercedes area will give you everything you want. Sushi, meat, sea food, pizza. You name it you can find it there.

Have fun. Caracas is much cheaper than it used to be if you change money or consider your dollars are worth alot.

Big Johnson,

thanks a lot for your quick and substantial answer! That´s why I love this board!

Snark

Hi, anybody had any experience with Dominique (masajista) yet? Found her on sexycaracas. I plainly love piel canela, but only if performance is near GFE... what gives?

... P.S.: What does "Me encanta el masaje Ruso, Francés, Hindú, Tailandés, Inglés" - can understand russian, french massage but have plainy no idea what´s behind Hindú and Ingles. Any hint?

Hindu means a girl of East Indian origin. Engles means a girl from Great Britain.

since you're obviously getting this off the same website you found Dominique on, why don't you click on the part of the site where it explains all these terms

Catire, thanks. Didn´t find that on first sight. I consider these pages of explanation much better than most of what I found elsewhere, does make sense to look there anyways.

Here´s what I received sometimes without knowing what it was and searching for anyways :-) Hindú is great!

"Me encanta el masaje Ruso, Francés, Hindú, Tailandés, Inglés"

means, "I love Russian, French, Hindu, Thai and English massage". I believe that the web site itself has definitions.

My fellow citizens of the world.

I will be in Caracas for a one day stay Saturday 17th of January. I'll stay at the Hilton.

If some fellow board member is in Caracas those days, maybe we can hang out and explore the local beauties. Spanish is my first language so that should help us around.

Send me a PM.

Question: Is the Hilton, chica friendly?

Thank you

Mr. Chencho

Sr Chencho,

I won't be in Caracas but I can give you some info on the Hilton. My information is about 2 years old but I stayed in the Hilton on and off for about 3 years.

The Hilton will allow guests to your room but if they go through the front desk, they have been know to ask for a guest fee. I was asked to pay $50 the last time.

This can likely be avoided in four ways.

1. I think timing plays a part in the decision to charge a guest fee. After 8 or 9 PM it seems to be more likely. If you order escorts earlier in the day, I think you can avoid the fee.

2. There are two towers in the building. One to the left of reception and one to the right. They have different elevators. The one to the right is near a lobby bar, the concierge, and the bellmen. It is also assigned to members of HHonors. It is also guarded by security at night. Direct access to this entrance will lead to a guest fee. You can avoid this by going to the Restaurant/Bar near the pool and using the elevator stop on the pool level. (Check this out first and suggest meeting your escort there or if bringing a girl back from a club, stop off up there first.) The tower to the left has an elevator near the small shopping area of the hotel. It is not guarded and permits easy access to guests. In either case, the elevators are key activated with your room key.

3. Arrange your escort dates through the bellman. He gets his cut, and you avoid any problems.

4. Check in as a double, arrive escorting the girl, and argue your case. This may or may not work. When you are looking to session, it sort of minimizes your resolve to win the arguement.

I have seen several free lancers working the lobby, pool, and shopping areas of the hotel. There seemed to be some young really attractive girls working the lobby early in the day (before 8 PM) but my last two visits to this hotel, they were gone. There were women (I say women because they were IMHO over 45 years old) working the shopping and pool areas late at night. But, they would have needed to pay me.

Good luck. Other good hotels of the same quality are the Radisson Eurobuilding, the Taminako, and the Marriott.

Truely thankful.

It seems like a very stupid game they play in that hotel.

At least, now I know the rules of the game.

Mr. Chencho.

My fellow citizens of the world,

As planned I arrived to Caracas-Venezuela, Saturday 16:00h

Immigration and customs was fairly easy, and in 30minutes I was out with my luggage. So here I was in the “Mecca”, the mere source of more Miss Universes of the world.

I was to stay in the Hilton Caracas, so the day before I called the hotel and asked them to send a taxi to pick me up at the Airport. Not to my surprise, the taxi wasn’t there.

By the way, my GSM phone that works in all GSM’s networks in Latin America, didn’t worked in Caracas, so I couldn’t call the hotel.

Well, I was to stay only 20 hours in Caracas, so it wasn’t much of a problem.

The guys who are supposed to help you carry on your luggage are indeed the same guys who ask you if you want to change so money.

So one guy approached me and asks me about changing money. I told him sure, but I also told him, “Don’t waste your time and my time, if you are going to give me the tourist rate, you better go and ask somebody else”. He laugh and told me that it is all part of the business but since I was obviously well informed he will treat me right.
So at the end he gave me Bs 2,800 per US. It was a very good rate. I exchanged US$ 200 so I finished with a small fortune.

I also ask around some other guys to make me an idea of the tourist exchange rate.
It was BS 2,500 - BS 2,600.

The moral is, be informed before hand, and don’t be afraid to ask around.

Ok, so I went out, took an airport “official” taxi, and off I went to the Hilton. Taxi price was BS 40,000 and the ride is about 45 minutes.

When entering the hotel, I noticed tight security in the lobby and close to the elevators. This is not a very good sign for us mongers as we recognize this immediately as a “No girls allowed in the room” scenario.

I checked in, and of course told the guy about the no-show taxi. He started calling people, etc, and at the end I was presented with and apology and the question “Is there something we can do for you to make it up”, and I said, “YES, of course, there are actually two things”

I took the chance to ask for a late check out (17:00hrs) next day, and he said “no problem”. And then I made my second move, “A girl is going to come and visit me to the hotel, so I want to make sure that there is no problem to bring her to my room”, as plain as simple as it sounds.

And the answer was “No problem sir”. Bingo!. I was controlling the game.

So I agreed with the receptionist (a guy) that she would come, ask my name in the reception, I will come down and pick her up. She has to register at the reception (as a security measure), but I will not be charged a single BS.

Ok, It was around 16:00 and I was finally in my room.

I should say that I was arriving from an all and all 12:hours trip from Paris, so I was very tired and jet-lagged.

But as somebody once told me, nothing better to help you recover from the Travel maladies that a hot and sexy young body.

So I called and escort service agency.

I had a few numbers, so I called “Amantes de Caracas (0212-4147724) http://www.amantesdecaracas.com

I women picked up and I asked her to tell me about their services and cost. We close the deal, and she was to send me Natalia or Nataly for BS 90,000 one hour, Full service and as many times as possible. She was to come at 19:30 hrs.

In the mean time, I started to feel a little bit weird, with a strong headache from the Jetlag.

19:30 went by, and the girl was a no-show (is this a Venezuelan tradition or what?). I called the agency and the girl told me that she couldn’t manage to send me the girl because of some reason. I told her why the hell she didn’t called me to the hotel and she said that she didn’t had my number. Like it is too complicated to find the Hilton number in the Yellow Pages.

Well I told her that she just lost a customer and maybe a bunch of customers, as I will tell my friend (you) never to use their services. So I was tired, jetlagged and on top of that pissed off.

I decided to take it easy, have a mild dinner and make two more appointments for the next day.

This time, instead of using and agency, I called Free-lancers that were published in the newspaper.

I made and appointment with Esmeralda (0414 283 9783) at 10hrs, her services costs BS 80,000/hr and with Susana (0414 935 5267) at 12:30hrs for BS 80,000/hr

I went down for dinner, which was very good and then to bed. I slept for about 12 hours, and woke up 9Am feeling brand new.

Ok, guys, it is 10:30 AM, no-show from Esmeralda. I guess providers in Caracas have a very subjective concept of time.

Anyways I called Esmeralda, and asked her what happened? She said, that she just woke-up, she will get dressed and be at Hilton in one hour.

I told her, thank you very much, but no thanks. When I mix business and pleasure, I want both things to be taken seriously. I told her to fuck up and cancelled her.

I called Susana, my 12:30 and asked her to come one hour earlier, at 11:30 and stay for 2 hours. I also asked her to bring a Swimsuit, so we can go also down to the swimming pool.

Lets se what happens.

Well, she arrived on time, wow, I am amazed already. No swimsuit, but a very good attitude

We opened a bottle of Polish Vodka (Wyborowa) I brought from Warsaw, and order some orange juice and Ice to make screwdrivers (very appropriate to screw, isn’t it?)
So I made a couple, and I asked her to get comfortable, she got into the toilet and 2 minutes after she came out completely naked.

I started to talk to her, she asked me what I did, I asked her where she was from (Valencia), etc, etc… very sweet and talkative girl.

She told me that she is just starting to work on her own as a free-lancer and that things were going quite ok.

Then I asked her for a massage, and she did. I lay flat on my stomach and gave me a back massage. It was good very pleasurable and skilful, I felt completely relaxed.

Then I told you to switch and se told me, that she only did CBJ, I said well, yes.

So she gave a fantastic CBJ, balls, club and the neighbour included.

Then we had sex, great sex I might say, four times. CBJ, BBBJ (the third time se agreed to it), Greek, DATY, the whole works. It took 3 hours service but it was worth.

Nice intervals/breaks to chat about stuff, like local politics, Chavez, etc,

She let me take pictures of her, no problem not money asked for it.

She was really sweet.

All and all I paid BS 250,000, broke down as followed:

3 hours company BS 70,000 * 3 BS 210,000
Greek BS 30,000 BS 30,000
Taxi fare Bs 10,00 BS 10,000
Total BS 250,000

Roughly US 90.00, for 3 hours of pure pleasure.

Not a bad deal at all.

I have to tell that she is not as good looking as the one’s I had in Bogota last time, but men, she is thin, rock hard stomach, tall (1.80), small breasted and light browned skinned, maybe she was a 6 in looks in my scale, but she deserves a 9.5 in attitude and performance, the drivers to ask her to stay for 3 hours.

Here are pictures of her, and her phone number.

http://mr.chencho.freeservers.com/Venezuela_Caracas_page001.htm

That is it for now my friends.

Expect next month my reports from Prague and Mexico.

Any data or contacts you can give me about those places will be very much appreciated.

Saludos.

Mr. Chencho

Mr Chencho,

Good report. No shows are common. Great that you got past the guest fee at the Hilton. The picks are great as well. I will be headed back in a few months and will sample the scene again.

PS where are you going in Mexico?

Big Johnsson,

Lets arrange details to Mexico DF by PM.

Glad you liked the report on Caracas.

Mr. Chencho.

Can anyone provide information or contacts for professional models that work as escorts in Caracas. I am interested in the kind of women like the ones on www.modelsdevenezuela.com. Any information would be helpful.

TIA,

Dogus

Dogus,

You might like to try http://www.sexycaracas.com

Mr. Chencho

Mr. Chencho,

Thanks, I checked out sexycaracas.com prior to my first post. The women there have nice bodies but who knows what their faces look like. What I am looking for is runway or print models that have been in local magazines or poentially on TV.

Any help with this would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Dogus

Here´s my little report about a lot of no shows - I stayed two nights in Caracas in the Radisson. Tried all numbers of sexycaracas.com. Got mailboxs or disconnected lines. Hmmm. Bad telephone system? Well, doing it from my cellular had no better effect, in the end I got one chick on the line, she was´t willing to come, but told me she was to send Habibi instead, thanks, but no thanks. So I kept to myself, probably not such a bad idea, cause next step was Habana, Cuba.....

Snark Hunter,

Jezzz... I thought it only happened to me. You can read my experience a few reports below.

Well amigo, next time in Caracas, try the newspaper, EL Universal or EL Nacional, and try those phones. Normally those are working.

Next time I will try the Intercontinental en Las Mercedes. I've heard it is chica friendly.

B. Regards,

Mr. Chencho

It is my understanding that there might people walking around caracas unable to find erotic services in the newspapers. In case they might benefit from sites on the net that faciltate such a pursuit, I include a link to the one bloody newspapers with classified ads on the web. Specifically, to their "masajistas" sections.


http://clasificados.eluniversal.com/22B.html

ferolga777,

I should have known beforehands. Thanks anyway :-)

snark

Is there a semi-pro pick up scene in Caracas? Anything like Argentina and Brasil?

TIA,
JWadd

Mr. Chenco,

The Inter-Continental in Caracas is called the Tamanaco Hotel. I've found it to be chica friendly -- as long as you're willing to escort the lady out to her taxi -- but a lot of the girls in the clubs like Morrison and Angelus sometimes refuse to go to the place. I think it's because security must hassle them if they leave alone.

Anyway, the Tamanaco is a very old hotel with small rooms and IMO overpriced. I'd recommend either the Marriott or the Embassy Suites -- both are new and chica friendly, and just as close to the action. I used to stay at the Best Western CCCT, which was girl friendly, especially if you tell the taxi driver to take you to the basement entrance in the parking garage, but that place got so run-down with leaky ceilings and poor service that I stopped staying there. Things may or may not have changed.

A while back someone posted about the "American Bar" in the basement of the parking garage at the Centro Commercial Chacaito. I visited there a couple of weeks ago. The neon sign actually reads "Bar Ejecutivo" ("Executive Bar"). The good thing is it opens early, like noon or 1 p.m. I got there about 4 p.m. and there were five chicas, all doable by my standards (and I'm the picky type, they can't be old, ugly or fat. I also eschew fake boobies.).

Pricing wasn't bad, I think with the 2500 exchange rate I got it was maybe $60 US incall (outcall is available but at about four or five times the salida). Unfortunately, the small room in the club didn't have a bed, but two sofas. The one where the deed is done was covered with a plastic sheet, which I suppose <sarcasm> helps protect the valuable upholstery </sarcasm> but tends to stick to naked, sweaty humans. Hmmm.

As if that wasn't bad enough, the condoms provided by the place appeared to be about as thick as inner tubes. I mean, I could hear the thing actually squeak during the CBJ and CFS. The service wasn't all that bad, but between the hyperbarrier condom and the cramped space of the plastic-covered sofa, it wasn't happening for me. I ended up asking for and getting hand release, which of course isn't my first choice.

In reviewing my VZ experiences, I have to say I can't give it that high a ranking on the monger scale. If you have to go there, you should be able to find some satisfaction -- but I wouldn't make a special trip there just for the hobby. (Go to Brasil instead!)

El Mujeriego (this is what you want to call yourself, the other is just bad Spanish)

the trick at La Noche Redonda (the basement bar ejecutivo) at Chacaito mall would be to take the girl OUT of the premises.

Take out fee is 57K bolivares. I'm not sure for what length of time this would apply, (at a place like Morrison's, you pay one fee for one hour and another fee for say all night)

but I once took a girl out in the evening and only paid 57K and she was mine all night (which we had agreed to in our conversation beforehand, this is between you and the girl, some will not be interested in such an arrangement)

there are many love motels within a couple of blocks.

If one were to deal with a girl from that place, that would be what I'd recommend (now I am glad my little voice inside wasn't interested in their "inhouse" services)

El Mujeriego is also correct about his overall assessment, which is of course what makes Caracas such a great place to meet women in - there aren't throngs of sex tourists running around.
SInce the P4P scene is so commercialized, this won't change any time soon, so yes, I'd say go to Brazil.

p.s. As a general note to the Forum.

I receive PM requests and or e-mails on a semi-regular basis from people coming to Caracas that are interested in me sharing "phone numbers" with them of "some special lady".

Don't bother.
I won't/don't give any out.
Not only do I not keep any such black book but I am a big believer in personal interaction and unique experiences, meaning your mileage may vary, meaning I might get more out a of a certain experience with a certain girl and vice versa.

Have frequented Caracas over the past year. I usually have very little time, so the contact issues on Sexycaracas.com are problematic. Last time, I resorted to using the agency section, instead. This seemed to be a MUCH better deal, in terms of reliability and service. Price was favorable as the agencies are run from landlines (cheaper to call from hotels), and you only have to make a call or 2, not 100.

Unfortunately, I cannot remember anything helpful, not even the name of the agency. In fact, I cannot remember if I posted a review. Hell to get old.

HOWEVER, I did discover one important aspect of sexycaracas.com -- The prices are IDENTICAL in US Dollars and in B.S.!!

So, if you look at the website in the spanish version, you get a BIG discount.

Looking forward to my next trip.

Adios,

Jav'

JavMav wrote: "HOWEVER, I did discover one important aspect of sexycaracas.com -- The prices are IDENTICAL in US Dollars and in B.S.!! So, if you look at the website in the spanish version, you get a BIG discount."

Is that true? I believe that it may be a mistake. 1 US dollar is currently equal to 1920 bolivares (BS), right? As a matter of fact, if you bring US dollars to the streets of Caracas, you will be get a much better than that rate (ie. 2000-3000 bolivares per US dollar). That would mean (for example) that Adara (aka "Miss Sexycaracas") would either except $1100 US for a whole night, or 50 cents is bolivares. Not possible, but it should make a nice dream. Spanish speaking men would be booking these ladies 24/7 in order to get entire nights with them for 50 cents! Miss Sexycaracas would have laughed at your offer of less than a dollar. These ladies are definitely gorgeous, but the person who made their computer site messed up with the pricing.

JavMav:

On second thought, I should apologize to you. 180.000 BS for 1 hour, versus 180 US dollars for 1 hour with Adara. That would be $93 US for the Spanish speaker, versus $180 US for your typical gringo. Wow, that's a shocking price difference! Knowing Spanish gives you half off! Prices are probably about double for your typical gringo, as compared to the Latinos who live in SA.

Thanks for the tip.

I never thought I'd be in the position of defending the Sexccs website, but in their defense, the exchange rate of the bolivar vs the dollar has been in massive flux for the last several years.

I'm fairly certain that the price comparison was input when the exchange rate was 1000 to 1 or even worse, say 700 to 1, when it was still at least somewhat stable.

I'd also bet that the site doesn't go around updating their exchange rate every couple of months or so. That would be too much work.

That said, knowing Spanish will help you a lot in any Latin American bargaining situation (where bargaining is a way of life) and ensure you don't receive gringo pricing.

That starts for any item bought on the street, any service, much less a piece of Internet ass.

I miss Caracas.
One is a topless model,the other was my girlfriend while I was there.
Nice girls!!

Hi,

I would like to contribute on two topics.

A. Venezuelan reliability: This is - at best - a difficult thing. I travel to various Latin American countries on a regular basis, I have experiences in Arabic, Central Asian and Eastern European states as well. I didn't visit a place where punctuality is as scarce as in Venezuela. So, I was pretty modest in my expectations on my last stay in Caracas. but, and that is topic

B. I was positively surprised with sexycaracas.com. With all my bad expectations I had made at home a list of about 20 possible chicas, and, surprise surprise number one worked out right away:

Kelly is a monument of a latin chica, about 20 years old - she claims she is 18 - 182 cm of pure fibre, all natural, meticously shaved, and a nice face too.

She arrived on time at my hotel, (Anauco), I waited for her in the lobby, no questions at all. When I saw what I had before me, I switched from one to two hours. It was a really nice GFE with lots of oral. She didn't give bbbj, but posters on the sexycaracas-forum allege that she changed that policy. I can recommend her, because of her body and her attitude.

She charged 180.000 bs ( I changed 100$ for 240.000 back then, now you can get 280.000 for a hundred) for the two hours, I guess she raised that tarif lately.

Afterwards I had another very positive encounter with a semi-professional chica universitaria named Carolina. I found her ad in the El Universal Classifieds. She arrived more than one hour late (see above). I was ready to throw her out on arrival. But she was extremely nice, charming and talkative. Intelligent conversation and in the end, it was me who was being late: She stayed three hours, I paid her the agreed 120.000 for 90 mins, the rest was for free. I gave her a nice tip though.

I tried to call her lately several times, just to chat, but there was just the mailbox. It seems that she found a local sugardaddy who pays for her last two semesters.

My third experience was Tormenta from www.caracasladesnudo.com. I'm kind of a buttman, so if you check her pics, you know why I booked her. I would not see her again though, it was not more than OK. If chicas pull out their KY-lube before the action starts, I am pretty turned off. Tormenta didn't need any KY, as I gave her outstanding clit a very nice oral treatment that left her well-lubricated. A nice and very tight cowgirl ride followed. But in the end i couldn't get over the impression that this all is just plata for her, no fun.

I gave her, as agreed with the guy on the line, 180.000 for 90 min. Although they market the girls as independent, caracasaldesnudo is obviously an agency. The booking was simple and the girl arrived on time.

So far my personal contribution, any questions? Don't hesitate to send me pn.

Saludos from Germany

Toby

Hi Guys,
Many of you have asked for contact numbers on the two chicas in the previous photo, I do not have.
This one moved to spain about 4 months ago. I knew if i didn't take her out of there someone else would.
The other one,the topless model was her friend.

Here is another side of her.

Visited Puerto Viejo the end of February during carnival. Lots of people hanging out on the street drinking until 6:00 A.M.. Mostly locals, but a few tourists. It was a little shady for me. Lots of warnings about how dangerous the area is for tourists but I had no problems.

The Best Western Puerto Viejo is a nice hotel with a marina and private beach. It is also very close to the airport but there are a couple of nicer hotels down the beach a little farther. Sorry, I don't remember the names, but any of the local cab drivers can take you to them. They probably have availability at all times as they do not advertise on the internet and are too expensive for most locals.

The best exchange rate I could find was 3000 to 1. Most of the locals know this and it is hard to get great deals, but most hotels and restaurantes use the official exchange rate. This works out great for your major expenditures.

I was only able to find one club that had girls. It was called the American Bar. All of the cab drivers know it. It is supprisingly a fairly nice place. It is not very big, but is safe and nice. I went twice and each time there were between 10-15 girls. Both times it was early, 10:00-11:00 P.M.. The girls ranged from 5-8 in looks and were between 18-30 years old. My first trip I left with a nice looking girl for Mairicaibo???. She had a great face and a good body. The price was $50 for the night. One thing, whatever price you negotiate with the girl is what you pay to the American Bar as a fine to leave. So it basically cost you double the girls rate. Keep this in mind when negociating with the girls. Drinks are inexpensive and they will give you a good exchange rate at the bar. I got 3000 to 1.

The second trip to the American Bar I didn't see anything good except for the girl I had taken out the night before so I went for a different option. When I had checked in to my hotel the bell guy had told me he could get women. I had him bring a girl to me for the night. The price was 200000 Bolivares for 2 hours. The girl was not as cute as some of the girls from the American bar but she was nice.

Overall it was a pretty good trip. I would like to have more time to check out the local scene and work on non-pros. There is a disco in the area called Rompaolas???. It is suposed to be an excellent place for talent scouting.

By the way, I did not have any luck hooking up with my new model friend. She was away with her family for carnival. Too bad as she is a damn fine woman!

Just a quick note to answer Nibu's request for information concerning the recent events in Caracas, but this is not a political post. To be brief: the National Guard was teargassing and shooting at peaceful demonstrators on Libertador Avenue. A group had been ambushed by the National Guard from one side and the local Chavista police on the other side; they were getting reamed with rubber pellets, tear gas and real bullets! What did I see: one of my favorite apartment places had all their girls on the ground floor of the building opening the door for the demonstrators to come in and hide from the fracas! One of the girls was a cutie I had been with a while back and she winked at me as I passed inside. This confirms the ancient proverb, "a W**** with a heart of gold." So true and my thanks to them.

Needless to say, we shall have a lot to talk about when I return. Be Safe.

Was thinking of going to Caracas for some mongering in April and wondered if anyone else will be down there then or knows how dangerous things are to be travelling solo. I have been there before but it been 7 years and don't know if its wise to go alone.

I know the exchange rate it great now - anyone know how much right now?

Thanks!

Does anyone know of a local Caracas board where they review the local talent?
Specifically the SexyCaracas girls?

I visited Caracas for the first time last week. My observatons:

The unemployment rate is 30 %. Times are tough and people are desperate, so crime is high and the criminals are ruthless. Be careful and either stay in the hotel or take a taxi directly to the bars or clubs.

We did find a nice club called Magnifique. Good looking girls, reasonable drinks and on-site short-time facilities. Put it on your list.

www.sexycaracas.com has a "foro" which means forum where there are posts and "discussions" on some of the women.
You'll need to register to get in and you'll need to know Spanish as all discussion is in Spanish (you might need knowledge of some the local slang regarding sex and sexual acts as well).

Magnifique is a strip club and not a cheap one. May I ask what they charged you? (and then I will tell you by how much you overpaid)

I did not partake, because the girl with me did nothing for me. The two men with me used the bar's services, but I don't know the cost.

Actually, price did not matter, because on of the guys was Asian and wanted to try a western woman with big tits. He was our customer, so who cares! He got his wish.

Does anyone have experience with this web page:

http://www.jardinerotico.com/

They have some good looking girls.

SF

Besides women, is Craacas an interesting city?
Is it a walking city? Good things to see?
How many nights would you recommend.

Dear Man

It is impossible to answer this question because everyone's tastes and likes/dislikes vary.

Generally speaking Caracas is not a tourist location and doesn't offer much in terms of touristy sights or historically appealing architecture (though real students of architecture will appreciate several modern(istic) structures such as the towers of El Silencio.

There is no colonial architecture or historical district because the city has had to rebuild several times from pirate raids and then a series of severe earthquakes, last one around 1900 or so. Furthermore, during the 70's oil boom, things were built "modern style".

Caracas is very much a walking city for ME, simply because of the stunning women you will see on the streets, but in terms of how I think you are asking the question, I'd say no.

Good things to see?
the women.
They're everywhere.

Take the newly operational teleferico up to the top of Mt. Avila.

How many nights? up to you.
You can probably see most of the things to see within 3-4 days.

Thanks Catire.

Mr. Man.

I hope my answer wasn't interpreted to mean that the city is bereft of cultural events, museums and other interesting thing to see and do.

Au contraire, it 's a vibrant metropolis and you can find whatever you want if you want to dig hard enough.

That said, the city certainly can't offer the stunning landscape of say, Rio de Janeiro or the readily available historical sights and pleasure of say, Cartagena de Los Indies.

but much like another city that's built along the same "modern metropolis" style, like Cali.

It has its own rewards.

catire,

i am planning to visit caracas in june, do you have any info about the chicas on sexycaracas.com?

or you have any recommendation?

what is the term "lluvia de oro", [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord103][CodeWord103][/url]?

thanks

mark

Mark, regarding your questions.

1) not really, what kind of info did you have in mind? I've only used it once, with an agency girl and in that singular lucky instance I struck proverbial gold. She's no longer around and even if she were I'm not into "recommendations".

2) no


3) yes


my only recommendation if you're going to use the site is not to read it and especially the prices in English. Unless something has changed the prices were converted when the exchange rate was roughly 1000 to 1, whereas these days on the black market, it's 3000 to 1.

so click on the Spanish version to see pricing and the divide by 3000.

Catire

Thanks for your comment.

Any suggestions for hotel in Caracas with Chicas friendly?

Thanks

Mark

Mark SOS, almost all of them are guest friendly, assuming you don't bring in obvious streetwalkers.

Every girl, whether from an agency or one you grab from a club, will have appropriate dresswear to wear on the street or on premises.

If money isn't an object, for you, then I'd recommend the new JW Marriott in El Rosal. (it will run you slightly more than a $100 a night)

there are MANY more economical options, you might look into the so called 4 star hotel options.

Catire,

Thank you for your info.

My travel agent books me Intercontinental, is this good for action?

I am going to try to check out chicas on chica800.com, did you try any of them?

Any good recommendations for having BBBJ CIM in Caracas?

Thanks,

Mark

I'm not familiar with that hotel, does it have another name?
where is it?

no matter,as I said, guest are not a problem (with discretion on your end)

not familiar with those other website girls, I like to meet girls I want to spend time with, with face to face before making such a decision.


not familiar with those abbreviations the CIM one, but I am guessing bareback bj to completion:?

that's something you will have to discuss with the girl. Uncovered bj's aren't a problem. Completion is a personal matter, hence you need to discuss beforehand.

Catire et al,

The Inter-Continental in Caracas is better known as the Tamanaco, an older hotel but in a good location in Los Mercedes. IME, girls from the clubs are reluctant to go there and prefer a "hotel transitorio", but I believe that's because they usually get shaken down by hotel security on the way out. If you assure your lady you will safely see her to a taxi, there shouldn't be a problem.

Personally, I would stay at the Embassy Suites or the Marriott, which are both girl-friendly. The CCCT Best Western is friendly as well, but the last time I was there the place was falling apart due to poor maintenance.

Happy Hunting,

EM

agreed that Embassy Suites and Marriott are much better from a location standpoint. At the Tamanaco you are on the fringes of the city. I've never stayed at any of these hotels, but had a friend who stayed at the Marriott and I visited him several times.

Catire,

Not to quibble, but whilst the Tamanaco may be "on the fringes of the city" it remains close to the main places of action (at least for us turistas), less than five minutes by taxi to the Doral, maybe 15 minutes in traffic to Morrison or Angelus or Saba. And walking distance to a lot of good bars and restaurants (should one dare cross the street)... and a quick taxi ride to the nice places in Altamira, etc., so...

It's a lovely hotel overall, but my main reasons for staying elsewhere are that 1) it's old, with small rooms; 2) it's expensive in USD, though that's Caracas in general (I once got nailed something like $300 at the Eurobuilding for a POS regular room); 3) the girls I've pulled from clubs don't like to go there, because as I noted earlier, they apparently get shaken down (that said, I've had at least three ladies in the place -- walk them to the taxi, and all should be fine. A tip for the doorman or security guard never hurts, of course, anywhere.

Just to clarify that I'm not quibbling, I'm with you, Catire -- Marriott or Embassy would be my places of choice, but I understand business travelers don't always have a choice. (That's how I've wound up at the Tamanaco more times than I care to remember.)

OK, there's also a relatively new place, the Four Seasons. Hideously expensive back when I last looked into it, and I know nothing about it's "friendliness," though I think that in VZ -- as in other places -- this is more a matter of appeasing/fending off/tipping the security guards as you walk your lady out. Claro, YMMV.

Happy Hunting,

EM

I realize most of this is in past postings, but could one of you Caracas pros give us a quick summary of what you would do, knowing what you know now, if you were going to Caracas for the first time for a week. Just a few sentences with the best hotels, clubs, prices, would be great. Thanks!

Hi,

I see that post are a little slow about Caracas, mostly by the actual situation, but I can give some advice as a native.

First, the most visited area in caracas for hunting are Plaza Venezuela, Sabana Grande and recently Chacaito, all this areas are "in line" trough the Casanova avenue. Is in this same avenue are the most girl friendly hotels (and some of the really-not-so-clean, except the case of the Meliá Caracas and two or three). By this avenue, specially past 9pm (21Hrs) working class girls start to show at bars, street walkers and in some hotel doors. Be beware of thiefs if you plan to scout by foot.

By the Shell Gas Station in the Casanova Avenue, there's two famous strip clubs: Magnifique and Saxo. those are a little cheaper and with not-so-cute girls than the well known Angelus but in a lucky night you might find two or three good looking ones.

Following the Avenue's end toward the east of town, you will pass near Chacaito Mall and really close to a McDonalds. in this Square, a varing group of good looking girls appear mostly after 10pm (22Hr) and with good "offers", they seen to be testing this area of the street, checkit out before they flee :)

Parallel to this avenue, is the avuenue "Libertador". long time ago was the spot for picking "street girls" but now is 99% infested with Shemales.

i would disagree that the saxo and magnifique girls are that much less attractive than the "glam" angelus princesses which i essentially detest but that's a matter of personal taste.

if you like layers of makeup, tons of silicone, ripoffpricing and attitude to boot, then angelus is certainly your place.

as to the area around mcdonalds in chacaito, i would be very careful if i were you - a significant percentage of these streetwalkers are ****. which is precisely why they flee at the first sight of a chacao police squad car.

their "good offers" are usually in the range of 30-35k bolivares, unless they judge you to be stupid enough to pay more, aka a non spanish speaking gringo.

then you can take them to a nearby love motel and "enjoy" them for ... oh.... all of 10-15 minutes or however long it takes you to blow your load, whereupon they are out of there faster than a cockroach scurries across your kitchen floor when you turn the lights on.

the casanova/chacaito streetwalkers are mostly used by the many cabbies that drive around there for in the car blowjob relief.

Hi,

I was in Caracas last week. I tried the sexycaracas girl. It was one of my best experience.

She looks very hot (blonde) and beautiful. Service is 10+.

We had a deep deep kiss, and she undressed me and started to kiss my whole body. Then a BBBJ with a lot of ball licking, a lot of eye contact. The first shot was a BBBJCIM. And she gave me a massage and so relax. Then she started to lick my ball again and give another BBBJ, she made sure my cock is hard enough for her to do the cowgirl. I noticed that she came when we were in doggie position. When I was done, she told me she only have one condom, asking if I have some ready, oh my god, that means she was expecting another round, I said no mas, 2 shots in one hours is my limit.

200% would repeat.

Price USD100/hour

Looks : 9

Thanks,

Mark

[blue]Hi,

This is just a suggestion, so please don't take it the wrong way.

I appreciate the details in your report, but I know from experience that a lot of people find it easier to read a report if the paragraphs are separated by a single blank line.

I know how this happens: You're banging away at the keyboard, putting your thoughts into the report as fast as you can write them. However, if you could hit the return key TWICE at the end of each paragraph, your report would be much easier to read, which would certainly be appreciated by your fellow Forum Members.

Thanks,

[i]Jackson[/i][/blue]

so you paid her anywhere from 250,000 to 300,000 bolivares, eh?
(because that's what she changed your crips Benjamin for)

That's a little more than the minimum monthly wage which is what most of the population makes.

For that kind of money, you could have gotten five average girls for an hour.

Or three hotties

Or two veritable, top of the line superstars.

What you pay is ultimately YOUR business, but since you raise the issue of it being a sexycaracas girl I have to question your pricing.

Why? - EZ - because NONE of the girls on that site charges as much as 100 US$ hourly. I think the highest is 150-160K with 120-140 K being more the "norm". (which would be $50 US$ or less)

Or.. let me guess - you clicked on the "English" version of the site which gives prices at the 1000 to 1 old exchange rate???

Or, were you just snookered??

Hi all,

Names Chas. I have been to a Mexico, Peru, Ecuador, Cuba, Dominican Republic, Costa Rica, and a few other places. I have just arraigned a trip to Caracas. The woman on those sites seem incredible some seem made of plastic. Anyway, I always check these boards before I make a trip and I always benefit from the info here. I will be arriving July 5th at 9pm. This is what I need to find out.

1. Aprox 200,000 = 100usd is this correct = _____________

2. Best hotel, girl friendly (no extra charge) less than 50/night = ______________________

3. Taxi price airport to hotel = ____________________

4. Best area for street action = ________________________

5. Good driver/rate and his number = ________________________

6. Best spas, and names of girls who give good gfe = __________________________

7. Best experience with sexycaracas girl and her name = _________________________

8. Cost of viagra and is cialis available = __________________________

9. Best and cheap short term motel for the street action = ______________________

10. Any personal recommendations and numbers = ________________________

This and any other info would be appreciated. Also, anyone been with Pantera an independent from sexycaracas.com? She looks like my girlfriend but wild (gf is shy and religious good girl type). I would love to set up some time with her. I love anal, and she seems great. I speak Spanish (badly) and I look Hispanic. If I don't talk too much, they think I am a native.

Thanks to all in advance. Chaz

Will give report and photos when I return.

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"I was in Caracas last week. I tried the sexycaracas girl. It was one of my best experience."

I can second the recommendation. I was in town three weeks ago and recommend the service as well as the price (around $100 USD).

I stayed at the Embassy Suites which I also recommend both from a location standpoint and visitor friendly standpoint.

Thanks to all the previous posts which made this long business trip much more enjoyable.

Hello all,

OK, I have just picked up my ticket. Continental EWR to CCS. Will arrive July 5th. Need to find a hotel. What I see here is that everyone is talking all high end hotels. When I have traveled to other places, I have always found chica friendly places for about 50 a night. There must be some place near all the action. Any info would be greatly appreciated. I also seem to understand that the official exchange rate is 200,000 to each 100usd. Now i must go black-market to get 350,000 per 100usd. Can this only be done at the airport? Or can this be done elsewhere. How do i know it is real money and not monopoly stuff?

Thanks in advance.

Chaz

This is amusing. So, we can now gather that gringos pay double at sexycaracas.com

Why?

I guess because they can?? and will?

whatever..

chaz:

selected answers:

100 USD at current black market exchange (which fluctuates) is around 260,000 bolivares. (was 300,000 a month ago)

taxi price from airport - if you take ripoff tourist taxis stationed outside, the officially "sanctioned" taxis - between 25K to 30K bolivares. You will note that not a single Venezuelan takes these. If you can take a normal taxi - around 15 K.

Both viagra and cialis are available. There are also good viagra generics which are very cheap. Go to any pharmacy.

Thanks Catire,

Now I only need a hotel. looking for something resonable. Also, would i say "cien ochenta mil por un hora y media" for the sexycaracas chicas? Where is the house with a bunch of girls, like the chongas they have in Peru? How much there?

Thanks again all.

Chaz

look back in the Caracas theads. I mentioned some possibities about possible hotels. There are several four star hotels that should suit you nicely.

ciento ochenta mil por una hora y media.

There are no "houses" with girls, however there are so called "American bars" and most girls in stripclubs also available.
any taxi driver can take you to those.

an hour in say an American bar will run you around100K + , which is a ripoff because the girl only gets about half of that money, the other goes for room and some alcohol which you are required to buy.

Thanks again Catire,

Does anyone know this hotel?

Coliseo Hotel
Ave Casanova
Caracas, Venezuela
Phone: 212-762-7916

Is it near the action? Thanks again all.

Chazman

I think I will book the president hotel in los caobos. Any one stay there? Chica friendly?

almost every hotel will allow guests so long as discretion is maintained

Thanks again Catire, i found and booked a room with travelocity.

Hotel Caracas Cumberland
Segunada Avenida De Las Delici
Caracas 50274
Venezuela
Tel: 58 (212) 76 29 96 1
Fax: 58 (212) 76 15 12 6

Paid 62 a night. It seems to be in a good area for mongering. Now i have flight and hotel, any drivers available? I hope to set up something for the first night, i will arrive at around 9pm, It would be nice to have a chica set up already and waiting at the hotel for a all nighter. Any recomendations would be apreciated. thanks all. Chaz

Chazman, an American bar called El Doral will be directly across the street from your hotel.

From the outside it looks like a very nice hotel, and I suspect you will be happy with it for 62 a night (though I am sure you would have paid up to 25% less if getting it locally, and your savings might reach as high as 40% if you were to change $$ on black market and simply pay in bolivares. Understandably, not easy for a tourist, especially a first timer to do/arrange.


I'm not sure if you can take a girl out of El Doral, it's probably possible but the salida for such a thing will be fairly steep, probably 150K bolivares (for which you'll get a bottle of champagne)

If you stay on the bar's premises and use its own adjacent ove motel, you will probably pay anywhere from 110K to 140K for your one hour's worth of "pleasure".

Things may have changed, but the Doral used to be incall only. As stated, if takeout is possible it won't be cheap.

However, IME all the chicas have been receptive to lending their phone number for independent follow-up following an in-house session. Might be a strategy to consider if you find something you like.

Also, be aware that CBJ seems to be the house rule, though that might be negotiable in an off-site follow-up.

As anywhere, you may wish to tip the lady for services rendered. Also, you may be asked to drop a few thousand Bs for the maid, and the doorman would also like a tip when you leave. He may open his palm to show a $20US bill -- this is only a suggestion, so you don't need to reciprocate, but for the sake of courtesy you should give the guy a little something.

Thanks again guys for all your help and information.

As usual, this board is such a help. I have sent emails to Pantera and Alison of Sexycarracas in the hopes of setting things up for my arrival on Monday night. It seems this hotel is near many things, I would like to take a walk and check Plaza Venuzuela. How late are things happening there? Aso one other question, can I only exchange money at the airport? (blackmarket rate) Or can I do this in or near the hotel? Thanks again all, and Catire, if you are around I would like to buy you a drink in appreciation of all you have helped me with.

Chaz

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if you want to tip. a tip of 5K bolivares should suffice, (to the doorman as well) and if you want to tip 10K bolivares (which is a let's say 4 bucks), you are being VERY generous.

Don't fall for any bother bullshit scam.

I always made it a point to generously tip the bartenders in the locations I hung out at. That, and being a regular patron guaranteed me excellent service and treatment, even though I mostly came in to drink and chat, rather than take the girls up to their incall rooms for the one hour.

Generally speaking, I think that covered BJ's occurred around 1% of the time for me, but as in all things, Y (our) M (ileage) M (ay) V (ary)

I am so excited about this trip, I am even thinking of booking another right away. I have just spoken to Pantera from Sexycaracas and have set up Monday night. I will report on how it goes and if she shows. here is what she looks like for those who dont want to go to the site.

Chazman, that girl is OK but would be nothing special in RIO or Buenos Aires, and 2 hrs would cost about $30-60.

Rather than go back to the same place you should try Rio or Buenos Aires. Get some variety!

you dont' see girls like that in Buenos Aires, and if you do, they're Brazilian.

You'll also note a distinct lack of silicone on Pantera which is almost de rigeur for the hos of BA.

Admittedly, Pantera is somewhat exotic even for Venezuela.

She looks quite Brazilian. In fact, I'd almost bet that she was.

btw., I would completely challenge that you'd pay 30-60 DOLLARS for that kind of quality in Rio or BA.

I'll make that bet!!! 180 pesos?? no way. 180 reals??
keep on dreaming!

I'll admit that she was the one girl from that site, that I thought about "trying", but never went thru with it.

chazman, per your Q's

yes you can change your money at airport or anywhere in the city though for a visitor without knowing anything/anyone it might be easiest to do at the airport. Make sure you're aware of what the going rate is (at this moment I head 2600 to 1). Needless to say they will try to get the best rate possible for themselves at airport (I'll bet they offer you, 2200 or 2300 to 1). You can bet that if you look like a tourist you';ll be approached immediately by people saying two things

1) taxi, taxi
2) change money

things around Plaza Venezuela go until about 4 am, though some places stay open until almost 5. Some places do "afterhours" on Thu, Fri and Sat.

Hi Everyone.

I am relatively new to Caracas, having started traveling to that beautiful city since early this year. I have enjoyed and utilized informtion from this forum, but have not participated directly because it has taken so long to get registered.

I have stayed at the Tammanaco and the Marriott and agree that the Marriott is a much better location.

My experience here to date has been fairly limited (I work too much). On one occasion I called for a massage from the ad that shows up in the daily English language newspaper. Very poor experience. Won't say more but could not recommend it.

On another occasion, I ventured over to edificio Volta in Chacaito. Had a nice experience wih a young lady named Andriena. Short, sweet and reasonable cost. Not sure I would return though. A little seedy for my taste, but a good value.

On another occasion, I searched for and found the Hotel Rosalida. I walked into the lobby and the clerk asked if I wanted a "chica". I responded "Si" and described what I was looking for. She made a phone call, registered me into a 3 hour room for Bs 16000 and told me the young lady would be here in 10 minutes. I have come to learn that 10 minutes in Caracas means more like 30 minutes. But when the knock on the door came, I was not disappointed. A beautiful blond woman named Victoria was there and she spent the next hour and a half wearing me out. A great GFE experience, which cost Bs 80,000.

A couple of questions for you more experienced folks. I read a post that described the Hotel Rosalida as having several chicas on site to choose from. That was not my experience. Has anyone been to the Rosalida recently? What was your experience like? Are there any other "love motels" that provide chicas within walking distance of the Marriott?

Thanks all and I look forward to participating more in the future.

Catera:

I am staying here at Hotel Gran Melia on Casanove avenue, two blocks from Plaza Venezuela. Any ideas about walking distance, pick up bars, and in house will be appreciated. Would rather not have to pay sexycaracas.com price. Thanks. How far is Hotel Rosalida from my hotel?

Tommy

looks like you got the gringo price at the Rosalida, congratulations. Did your price include what you paid for the room for the hour and a half?

There are two agencies that are in cahoots with Rosalida, meaning they send their girls to that love motel, and both advertise in the local newspaper, with pricing being around 35K for an hour. How many girls happen to be "on premises" at any one time depends on the time of day and how busy the agencies/girls are that day.

lots of things happening within walking distance of Marriott. You might try walking into the Hotel Dallas love motel a mere block or so south on any given night apart from Sunday. There is an agency that has anywhere from 5-6 girls in a sideroom as you walk in. Your fee, paid up front and including room will be 94K (for one hour)

p.s. by using an agency or anyone that advertises such things in the Daily Journal you pretty much got exactly what I always believed anyone using their services would get.


Tasty,

as you leave the Meliadoors on Casanova...
hang a left.
Walk several blocks, to the "end of the street".
Look around.

Rosalida is the other way, hang a right and walk down about half a mile or so.

Hello,

This will be my first posting but hopefully not the last. I have been mongering in Cuba, Mexico, Dominican Republic, and Colombia for about 5 years now. I am going to Caracas and Valencia (possibly other cities) in the near future and would greatly appreciate some info and advice. I prefer to go to dance clubs and find semi-pros or non-pros. I am 35yrs old,slim, and speak average spanish. Any suggestion would be greatly appreciated.also, are malls a good place to meet girls like I found in Colombia?

Thanks,

KW Kids

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Most Caracas dance clubs/discos will be found in the Las Mercedes area. What's hot at the moment tends to alternate, ask around, but your odds of finding a "part time" pro at a happening disco will be much smaller. Most girls in happening places don't need to ho, though there might always be an exception or two.

Be advised that 99% of Venezuelan discogoers are under 30, 75% under 25, the older crowd tends to go out to different venues.

Since the mall tends to be the social epicentre of a Venezolana's life, yes, you will have a chance to see and perhaps meet many of them there (if you are somewhat fearless).

I will be going to Caracas the week of July 18 to July 22. I am staying in the Tamanaco hotel, close to Las Mercedes. Can anybody advize me on some action please, preferably walking distance from the hotel. I presume you cannot take a girl into the hotel, so what are the other options that are safe. Thanks for the advize. I love the forum. I am more familiar with Argentina and Costa Rica, so I may post some good reports myself in those sections.

Well, I have just arrived back in New York. Caracas was fun and interesting. I stayed at the Cumberland hotel, which was nice, girlfriendly, and close to all. I exchanged money at the airport and got 230,000/100usd. I was shown a place on Casanova Ave, just 4 blocks from the hotel that gave 250,000. Edificio Volta, and the place around the corner from it was interesting. I did about 10 different women there. The price was 20,000 or about 8 bucks for a session. Many were pretty bad, but their were some nice ones. Greek was available for about 10,000 more. So for about 12 bucks, I had some good times. They are open 24 hours, and you can make arraignments to have the girl come to your hotel later. I did two from SexyCaracas. Alison was hot, but was very mechanical, constantly asking if it was good, which for 190,000 (76usd) it was acceptable. (greek included). Then Pantera on Thursday, she was worth the trip. I had initially scheduled 3 hours with her. She is 180,000./ 1.5hours. So I ended up paying 360,000 (144usd). She ended up staying about 6 hours, and it was great. Total GFE, and she loves anal sex. Kept asking me to do her over and over again. She would bbbj until I was ready and then beg for me to do her. She instructed me how she liked it, She also did one bbbjtc/cim while we were 69ing. I have to say she was the best pfp that I have had in a long time. She had wanted to spend the night, but I was so exhausted, that I sent her home. Here is one of the photos I took of her. Thinking of going back in one or two weeks. Oh the bad news was that at the airport when I was leaving, they thought I was drug trafficking. I almost missed my flight, and ended up getting a radiograph to prove I was not carrying drugs. Pissed me off so bad. After all was over and they let me go, they said it was because I was only there for 4 days. But now they know me and I wont have a problem if I come back. Is it worth it? Check the photo. Again thanks to all who made this trip a success.

Chazman

[blue]Hi,

This is just a suggestion, so please don't take it the wrong way.

I appreciate the details in your report, but I know from experience that a lot of people find it very difficult to read a report that is written as one long block of text. It's kind of like trying to eat an entire steak in one bite.

I know how this happens: You're banging away at the keyboard, putting your thoughts into the report as fast as you can write them. However, if you could hit the return key every few sentences while you're writing, and thus break your report into smaller paragraphs, your report would be much easier to read, which would certainly be appreciated by your fellow Forum Members.

Thanks,

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Here is another one of Pantera. She says she will change her name on the website.

The photo's a bit blurry... is she wearing glasses?

also, did you pay her extra for the added 3 hours she stayed?

did she want to be paid for staying all night??

I will admit that is the one sexycaracas girl that I'd long thought about trying it out with.

is the chest "silicone"??
is she Venezuelan, or Brazilian??

it now seems she's changed her "war-name". Her new name on the site is Afrodite. Judging by your pic, she's put on a couple of lbs since the sexycaracas. photos?

Chazman,

Thanks mucho for your report. For example, I was wondering about the exchange rate available from porters at the airport and about Hotel Caracas Cumberland. It is the cheapest hotel in Caracas listed on the few hotel agency sites found through google.com.

Other hotels mentioned by our fellows are apparently accessible through a direct telephone call. I like to book through the internet. However, after contacting Cumberland direct through the internet, it wanted a fund transfer for the first night's reservation transferred to its bank account.

Catire,

Your frequent posts on Caracas are invaluable. You stand shoulder-to-shoulder with the other reputed Caracas info-sharing expertos named Bogey and Zippy. Thanks, amigo.

One suggestion: when you post, would you kindly cite the latest black market rate for bolivars, at least weekly and what seems to be affecting the rate. For example, the exchange rate for the banana republics of Central America would be expected to drop in October and November, when local exporters of agricultural products would be paid in US dollars. However, other factors would inversely affect the rate.

Of course, the savings may be only pennies. But, it could be worth the cost of another cold Polar. Meserzo, traigame otra fria, ni una chica fria o americana.

The Stand In.

Again thanks to all who helped make this trip such a success, expecially Catire. Here are the answers to the questions.

1. She did not charge for the extra 3 hours

2. She said no charge for the overnight, but we would only sleep

3. She says her father is Dominican

4. She has a perfect bod.


Thinking of going again week of july 26. Thanks again all. Chazman. Heres another pic.

I've already talked about this a bit.

Rates at airport actually tend to be quite competitive, but not for non Spanish speaking gringos.

what you have to remember re hotels is that most of the hotels directed at tourist/especially foreign market are the preposterously expensive so called "5 star places". I also suspect you can get a better rate than 62 bucks a night if making a reservation locally, and paying in bolivares. If you want to make reservations on the Internet, you will have to pay "Net tourist pricing".

black market rate changes. Check the Venezuelan press, there's a way to figure it out based on value of the CANTV stock on Caracas' stock exchange as well.

Zippy is indeed a treasure, I blush just to be mentioned in his company, but that other guy probably couldn't hold my jockstrap :)

you want to say "mesenero", right?

and the "penny" savings are only that when prices are dollarized and compared to what an American/Western European might make back in his home country. This is of course a typical idiot tourist mistake. THe savings in local pricing, in terms of local earning/purchasing power are often SIGNIFICANT.

Chazman,

Your last picture was much better and showed a beauty. You, lucky guy, you.

Catire,

Sorry for not explaining what I meant by the pennies on the black market rate. Chazman got Bs 2,300 for a US dollar at the airport. If the average black market rate during mid-July was Bs 2,500, then the Bs 200 difference on a $100 would be Bs 20,000 or about $8. That would be about the price of a beer in a better strip club in the U.S. I have to check out the price of CANTV, as you suggested.

Hotels can be over-priced. One value of this discussion board is finding the good hotels and how to get the lower rate. But, even a good hotel can have a lousy room or two, which can provoke negative comments from a fellow contributor. I guess, for me, I rather take a chance on a so-called four-star or agency-recommended hotel for a first visit and, once there, look around for cheaper hotels within my acceptable range of quality. One web site rated Hotel Caracas Cumberland as four-star. At least, it should be better than a two-star hotel.

Meserzo - wrong. I should have spelled mesero or camarero. When my tongue is thick with beer fuzz, I probably do say meserzzzo. "mesenero" is the month of January?

By the way, is "Spiderman 2" the movie being shown in Caracas? Or, does Caracas get US movies several months later after the US showings? How much would a ticket usually cost?

The Stand In.

Went to Caracsas last month, stayed at the Hilton, was originally booked at the Radisson Eurobuilding. Had my homework done at the internet and checked out the www.sexycaracas.com site, since not to many englishfriendly sites were available. Falled in love with the Adara add. Had send her a mail and received a answer to call when in Caracas. However, she was only spanisspeaking so I ask my driver to set the date for 18.00 which she confirmed. at around 18.00 the Reception called me to come down and register my visitor, so I went down and reconized the Lady rightaway, nicly dressed and with warm smile, gives always a good start. She had to show her ID to the clerk, they took the details and off we went. Well had seen the gringo prices on the web, but finally a became less expensive we settled for 4 hours = 350 USD.

Sespite comunicating only with hands and bits of spanish and english phrases it turned out to be a lovely evening, had 2 bootles of cahmpagne brought with me so everybody got in the mood. She went to the bathroom and returned only in stockings and high heels and those huge boobs. She was an real pro, who did all perfectly well, kissing me deep, kissing my entire body, deepkissing my anus, leaking my balls, sucking all, anal sex no problemo. We did this several times this evening and the 4 hours passed quickely leaving me by the end a very happy fellow. Even though the price was high a well invested money.

Needless to say she was very clean and very friendly.

Tried to contact her the next day again, but no luck, so called a lady named Pantera, black girl, speaking some english, met her in the Lobby and we went up to the room by crossing the poolarea, so no fee paid. I wanted her to stay longer, but she kind of was not well dressed, and as well had a kind of smell. So did a short one and send her off.

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I guess you didnt like Pantera/Afrodite as much as the other guy, eh?

350 bucks by four is almost 80 bucks per hour.

Which would be 80 x 2500 which is = 200, 000 bolivares an hour.

Adara seems to be Ms. SexyCaracas for this particular viewing period.

Which makes sense. Venezuelans love those blondes with huge tits, no matter if the silicone makes them bigger than the girl's head.


for 2 hours she wants 460K plus an extra 80 for anal (which is usually a red flag, means she doesnt enjoy it)

Actually looks like you got yourself a decent deal and even a discount , based on proper bolivar based rates.

Jacks 01:

Hope you had fun. Going rate is about $200 for overnight and $50 for an hour of room service. The rate will be even less if you changed dollars for Bolivars at the airport with unofficial changers.

Catire:

Tries to find hotel Rosalinda using your directions. Sorry no luck after walking around for an hour. Thanks for help anyway.

that's because Rosalida is off on a little side street where a lot of love hotels are, called Calle Guaicapuiro (or something like that, I can't recall exactly now). It's precisely a block off Casanova once you head down the little hill just below the Chacaito commercial center area.

I didn't want to bother posting specific directions since I figured you'd get into the immediate vicinity and then ask around???

Hey Guys,

I am looking to renting a one bedroom apartment in Caracas for about 1 month. From the 31st Aug-end Sept. Has to have kitchen & cooking facilities, safe area within easy reach of amenities.

Would appreciate any help or advise.

Thanks,

Steve

one month might be difficult. Few people want to rent for such a short time. You might have to get one of those apart-hotels for shorter term stays.

here are some hints:

do NOT pay in US$, but in bolivares and do not accept quotes in US$

live east of Chacaito.

look thru the classifieds in www. eluniversal.com if you can speak/read Spanish.

there are also sometimes ads for this in the Daily Journal, the English language daily in town (no, they don't have a website)

If you were willing to stay at least several months, you could probably get a very nice place for $300 US/monthly (converted at black market rate in Bolivares)

Arrived in Caracas for a few days of fun. At the airport, a man in a white shirt and tie offered a taxi and an exchange rate of 2,200 bolivars per dollar. This seemed low and I told him that I heard the rate was closer to 3,000. He brought his friends over to tell me that 2,200 was the going rate. I declined his offer.

No one in the Sabana Grande area or the clubs have mentioned anything about needing dollars. I have been getting bolivars from an ATM at almost exactly 1,900 bolivars per dollar. When I get my bank statement, we will see if there were any transaction charges added on.

I met for the first time a fellow American, who told me his handle. From his suggestions and advice, I would have to call him, EXtra-informative CAT-man-did. He has been very helpful, but he likes to visit the good places by himself. He calls it, flying solo for more action. He confirmed that he also got the same offer of 2,200 at the airport, non-interest in dollars, and is using an ATM.

The hotel rate is 1,730. A casa de cambio, or money exchange business store, quoted me 1,710.

It is a little too early for me to form my impression of Caracas. But, EC said that Caracas has its good points and its not-so-good points for us older guys. I do not have much for comparison. But my initial opinion is that Buenos Aires is better than Caracas and about as expensive for girls and more expensive for drinks.

Athough I doubt if I would return to Caracas unlike Buenos Aires, it has been fun exploring a new city and experiencing the quirks of the culture. Thanks to everyone for their reports and advice.

The Stand In.

CATIRE

Thanks for the tip ! I take it that the area you recommended aint far from all the action.

tango1one

Bogey, Catire, Zippy, and other fellow visitor-writers,

Big thanks for your Caracas leads!

Stan,

Thanks for your appreciative words. Like you, this is really my first visit too to Caracas, since I was last here almost 20 years ago and did not have a chance to run around. I have enjoyed our chats, which made me realized how expectations can overreach based on other reports and no self-description by the writers. In our chats, you have expressed some unhappiness with the Caracas scene. What I have told you apparently has not stuck. Maybe these written words on my main themes will help.

First, we are older men. It is unrealistic to expect a girl in her early 20s or younger to become emotionally attracted to a man 20 or more years older. Sure, it could happen but the odds are against you. Second, we are in a modern city with millions of people. Here there is a constant bombardment of ads that shape the viewers´sense of beauty. For the girls, it is not pudgy, middle-aged men.

Third, the minimum expectation of civilized girls is not an average guy. In Central America and in small towns like those in Colombia outside of Bogota, most of those girls are satisfied with any guy who has a steady job. Civilized girls, though, expect a guy with a good-paying job, at the least. Fourth, the girls in the clubs, hotels for play, escort agencies, and similar for-pay venues are not the kind of girl who will spend her time going for a long walk in the park with you just to talk about philosophy and literature and to enjoy mutual man-woman friendship.

Fifth, you have to pay more than the market rate to get a girl who will be an actress to play the type of girl you desire. Sixth, you have a preference for blancas and mestizas and not for negras, mulattas, and pure indiginas. That is okay, because everyone has different taste. That alone explains why you like Buenos Aires more than Caracas.

Seventh, one should speak some Spanish to develop friendships, which you do a little of. I mention this because it is important.

I like Caracas more than you do. I am here for a long weekend, just for some mattress action and some entertainment. The girls in the clubs and hotels for pay are eagerly friendly, though most would not be allowed to enter a Miss Universe contest and they continually say trago.

Last Saturday night, I saw the best "show girl with male customer" spontaneous act ever -- even better than similar shows in San Salvador, El Salvador when some chicas in the middle of their act will spray beer on nearby customers. I had not laughed so hard in years and the crowd was cheering loud and long during and at the end of the act. Sorry, you were not there to see it. But, I move erratically between clubs and hotels for play.

Costs at the exchange rate of Bs 1900 = US$1 are high, but that is the luck of the draw and thanks to the drop of the value of a dollar due to Bush´s war on conservative Islam, deserved or not. At one hotel, payment was accepted in US dollars at a rate of Bs 2350 = US$1.

All in all, Stan, you are a romance traveler looking for the perfect woman. By contrast, I and most writers on this board are not. We are hedonists trying to enjoy the earthly delights before the veil on this corporeal consciousness we call life draws shut.

Enjoy those silicon valleys of Caracas.

I clearly stated that recently (more specifically after it was announced that the referendum would take place after all, on Aug. 15th)

that the exchange rate had dropped to 2500-2600 to 1 on the black market. I also clearly stated that you'll likely get offered 2200 or 2300 at the airport. See my earlier posts. No way were you going to get anywhere close to 3000.

There is demand for dollars but you have to know where to go, or simply have to be rather upfront and ask around. As a a gringo tourist, it'll be difficult for you to get a good rate. Rather, they see you as prime stupid target meat for casa de cambio or hotel rates of 1700 to 1 (this would be utter INSANITY)

If Buenos Aires is a "better" destination for sex tourism, all the better for Caracas which remains basically unsullied by it.

Tango - the area would not be far away from the "action".
but if you are going to spend any serious length of time in town, stay away from the hos and hang out with regular girls. Assuming you're not a troll and you've got some game, many will be interested in hanging out with you. It's the way to go.

Ex-man,

you say:

" Costs at the exchange rate of Bs 1900 = US$1 are high, but that is the luck of the draw and thanks to the drop of the value of a dollar due to Bush´s war on conservative Islam, deserved or not. "


First of all, costs at 1900 to 1 are NOT really that expensive. Consider the fact that several years ago, costs were calculated at 700 to 1, and if I assume you are talking about costs associated with hoing around, then those costs have remained fairly stagnant, though costs of everything else have skyrocketed. Several years ago, taxis in Caracas cost more than taxis in NYC and girls cost almost what escorts charge in the US, on par with preposterous Argentine prices before their economic collapse.

The drop in the dollar (as well as its rise) have NOTHING NOTHING and nada to do with Bush or his war. Rather it has everything to do with Chavez, the internal political situation and the original restrictions on issuing of dollars once an official exchange rate was decreed. (keep in mind that the dollar freely floated vs Bolivar up until almost 2 years ago) The recent dollar mini tumble is due to the fact that there will be a referendum and because Cadivi has loosened up on their issuance of dollars to businesses as well as allowing Venezuelan dollar based Credit cards for their trips abroad. Bottom line - exchange rate has nothing to do with Bush or American foreign policy.

btw.., getting 2350 to 1 in current circumstances (with rate at 2500 to 1) was a pretty decent deal. Congratulations.

Spent four days in Caracas. There is absolutely nothing to do(sightseeing) so only thing left was to find some shaved pussy. Stayed at upscale Gran Melia Hotel. Room rate $130 per night. Centrally located. In spite of directions from others on this board could not find Hotel Rosalinda. Could not find "pick up" kind of bars. Bars around were working men's bars with guys drinking, so used agencies. Very positive experience.

First agency I called was at 0414-260-8831. All numbers starting with 0412, 0414, 0416 and 0418 are cell numbers and you have to dial full number including the zero. Talked to a lady Claudia who spoke enough English. Arranged to meet a girl called Dalay (pronounced like in Dalai Lama of Tibet). 21 years, trim, blond, shaved pussy. Allowed DATY, BBBJ and true GFE. Negotiated overnight rate of 400,000 bolivars (less than $200). Liked her well so arranged with her directly for next day. She came at 11AM and stayed til midnight for 400,000. Went to dinner, sat in pool and fucked. Truely positive experience. She does not smoke and has asthma attack around smokers. Her real name is Yessica. Hardly any English but great company.

Used another agency at 0414-131-2933. Spoke to a Felix who can understand English. Arranged to have Stefany (real name Darling - she showed me her passport with that name). A law student, 20 years old, blond, big boobs and loves DATY. Hourly rate was 120,000 and negotiated for two hours at 200,000 (less than $100) and had great time. She does not speak English. Has e-mail address, if you need it send me a private message. Will try to post pictures but I am new to uploading pictures. Both of the above agencies phone numbers were taken from sexycaracas.com site.

Local newspaper (not the la nacional but the one called la Universal or La internacional or something like that) has lots of classifieds. Must have knowledge of some Spanish. I tried without knowing Spanish so could not communicate. I was very pleased with service and reasonable prices. Hotel Gran Melia was girlfriendly but upsacle. Girls were impressed.

Happy mongering.

Are there any dating sites targeting the Venezuelan people. I know there are sites like mejoramor.com and cybercupido.com targeting the latin america people, but are there also sites targeting only venezuelan people.

Thanks in advance.

The Melia is probably the most expensive hotel in town.

They damn better have been impressed.

Not sure what you mean by 'pick up' bars, but if you mean like a disco with freelancing prostitutes hanging around, that doesn't exist in Caracas, unless you go to one of the after hour discos that many hookers like to frequent and she's in the mood/needs the money.

Gina pics.

More Gina.

Hi fellows!

Do you know of any mid-price extended-stay hotels in Caracas? I could have to be there for one month and the location does not really matter (Sabana Grande, El Rosal, Las Mercedes ...) as long as it is reasonably safe. Thanks.

Take it easy!
LDP

Catire:

I was talking about bars/clubs like Blue Marlin in San Jose, Costa Rica, where pros and semi-pros are prowling and any good (or bad looking) girl can be had for the right and reasonable price.

Tasty, in effect the same thing, a bar OR disco with freelancer, a la Blue Marlin doesn't exist in Caracas.

Hi all,

I am thinking about going back to Caracas next week for a few days. I met this girl on line who lives about 45 minutes away by plane "Porto Ordaz". I will arrive at 9pm again and will go straight to the Cumberland Caracas hotel. I will try to arrange Pantera again for a few hours, then will go back to airport to catch the next flight to her area. Does anyone know if the national airlines has a website for incountry travel? I will stay with this girl (woman) tuesday to thursday and head back to Caracas for the night. Anyone recomend someone else from Sexy Caracas? Well I hope that I do not have problems at the airport again.

Thanks for any info.

Chazman

Chazman ... the national airline is Aeropostal ....

Go to Yahoo and do a search for them ... it's website will come up.

Puerto Ordaz and the adjoining city of San Felix comprise what is now officially called Ciudad Guyana, though no one call it that, and most Venezuelans still say Puerto Ordaz.

It's basically a mining city with some foreign companies also around town. I heard it's one of the most expensive cities in Venezuela.

Aeropostal might have flights down there (try www.aeropostal.com) , but that airline is mostly used for international travel. There will be at least several others who will fly down there (these will be airlines mostly used for travel within the country). go to a travel agency.

Here's a tip, the prices will be dollarized but under the official exchange rate. Therefore if you get a decent black market rate, which isn't as good as it used to be, you will save yourself more money by paying in cash in bolivares.

If you're making last minute reservations your price will also be higher. I would expect a ticket from Caracas to there and back to cost you anywhere from 150K to 250K bolivares.

TO Experience Mongers

I am doing my due dilligence on Caracas before I go and I really need your help and advise on this topic. I alway carefully research a place before I decided if I would like to visit

I have had the privilege to read some fairly enlightning points on Caracas mongering from various highly imformed sources on this forum.

However one topic that hasn't been covered is the local modelling agencies. My travelling experiences to Italy, Paraguay, Chile, Cuba as well as here in NYC tell me that some of the best untapped talent lies within these "modelling or talent" agencies. I have contacted some local photographers/pimp(as they are in NY) as well as some of these agencies to set up some possible dates today and we'll see what develops.

agencies include
www.modelosv.com
www.modelosdevenezuela.com

I understand that these are legitimate modelling agencies, blah blah blah as some people keep telling me but my experience in other countries tell me that at least an 1/8 to possibly 1/4 of these model/promotional models(depending on which site you look at) are or will get down with the program if your game and/or pockets are deep enough...the hardest part is just getting in the door and setting up initial dates

Has any of you caracas fellow mongers: ect. Explored this route?Please share your experiences. My intention is to go no later than OCT. once I have made the proper contacts. I hope to see some of you down there and hopefully explore this together

OK, It's official!
I will be going to Maracay, but so far no posts are in that thread. Can anyone give me some advice on clubs, hotels and other places to have some good times? You can PM me or put something in the Maracay thread so we can all share.

I was planning to caracas and Buenos Aires in November.

Other countries posts have said to avoid Caracas due to safety.

I like to go out to the bars/clubs as well as just the pros.

Can you give me an idea of just how safe the city is?
Obviously I will not go to the bad areas.
I just don't want to have to be in a hotel to club and back situation.

Any suggestions for a third city in SA destination?

I have done Rio. The Caracas and BA girls seem my type.
I am not too keen on the Columbian ones.
Sao Paulo maybe?
Any ideas?

Travelmen ... I don't understand when you say you think Caracas and BA girls are your type but you don't like Colombian ones ... Colombian girls physically can be light skin with light hair to dark morenas ... and everything in between ... their bodies just like the Venezuelans' ...

Hi Ricker

Where in Columbia would you suggest? I have looked a bit closer since your post, and now I see what you mean.

I was looking for a good party city with a bit to do, and the lighter skinned Columbians. A more English speaking city also, if there is one.
Maybe Cali?

Any comments about the safety of caracas?

Rob Hay


May i ask what does your experience consist of? We all know that fashion shows are filled with rich men looking for dates.

If you have done this is in other countries, I ask, how much has it cost you? Are we talking paying her regular hourly fee for a date that then becomes a regular wooing challenge?

I can see this working out, if you are a real party guy. Get two girls to go with you to the most happening discos. Bring friends, cool friens [Never invite me, I'm a dork] . I'm already dancing in front of my computer. You rent a limo for the night. Fast seduction, here I come.

Get some coke, give it to the models, yeah! I see this going on all the time.

Ferolga

Travelmen ... if you like the lighter skin chicas and a prettier city .. I suggest Medellin over Cali ... PM me if you want for a buddy's email that runs an intro service there.

I love Caracas also but it's definitely not the safest city ... there are nice areas though.
By the way ... the Venezuelan chicas generally are more dark skin than the Colombiana ... especially the Medellin chicas.
Personally, I love the dark skin morena ... for that, I love Caracas and coastal Colombia.

Hi friends,

I just came back fom a trip to caracas and feel asked for some adds to this board.

1. 100s of freebes are available on amigos.com. you need to understand at least some spanish. some of the girls, however, do well in english. the page is strange even if you dont like to pay for (as all the girls). but contacting works. venezuelians are kind of crazy with singlepages.

2. as a gringo in good shape you will easily find a girlfriend in the area of shopping center St. Ignacio (especially later of a week). you might be aware that venezuelian girls looking for well built men rather than just money.

Happy hunting,

ziggy29star

Thanks Ricker.

Any idea of Sao Paulo over Columbia?

Hi Guys,

I'm back in town for some meetings and am wondering if anyone has had experience with the Penthouse short time hotel in La Castellana?

In Paraguay I had a hookup with a model agent type/pimp name Brandon. He hooked up a semi known Paraguayian model name Helem Roux for 120/hour, expensive for Paraguay yes but considering all the dogs I saw roaming the streets. Not such a bad option.

My Spanish is not so good that I can go into a nightclub and just start talking smack to girls so I kindof need a guide/pimp. Obviously one that has model connections are the best and I am emailing with an agent at V models, we'll see how it goes.

I hope that someone might have these types of connections already set up.

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Hi fellow mongers:

I am considering settling in Caracas, as I have a job opportunity at USD 4,000 monthly, which is a fair amount of money in Bolivares (12,000,000) with which you can live a very decent life in Caracas.

My question is where to live in? Are Las Mercedes and El Rosal too upscale? Can anything mid-scale be found in Chacao. I was told that actually two very convenient locations for the fairly well-off are La Florida and Palo Verde. Do you agree?

I would like to live not too far from a metro station, with commercial centers around, as well as a good gym and some place to jog outdoor. On the other hand, I would not mind taking a taxi to go to a restaurant or partying, as I don't do that that much anyway. Can you recommend something?

In addition to reading the Universal' ads and visiting randomly a couple of realtors, would you provide tips, such as people you recommend? Thank you.

Once I have settled in, I may be able to accomodate some fellow mongers. BTW, you should be advised that it is very easy to date Venezuelan, once you are funny and speak a decent Spanish.

Take it easy!
LDP

Any brother around Caracas in Sept-Dec?

Yes, if any brother is around within this time frame, it would be great to congregate once in a time and party in the right places.

Please, those who fit, let me know.

Best,
LDP

Damn I missed it....last week Delta was running a special from NYC to Caracas $315 round trip for all travel next month. I am definately in for Caracas Sept-Dec once I get these model connections sorted out down there.

Hopefully all the street protestings and demonstrations will stop by the time i get there.

Ferolga you seem to have the right idea with the discos, from what i hear model quality chicks hang out at Dadys Latino disco. Hopefully we can get a good gathering of eager mongers together to do this mission

With pretty decent rates now from NYC I am thinking of going Sept 9th,16, or 23rd for an extra long weekend. So I am definately in for next month. I'm trying to convince some other mongering buddies of mine. Shouldn't be hard considering the wealth of talent, but pro and non pro in Caracas.

if you think the hotties at DadisLatino will give a "group of mongers" their time of fucking day... you are in dream dream land.

let me know when your group is coming so I can possible have the entire experience videoed for my personal amusement.

best nights used to be Thursday nights.. that's the cool people/beautiful people night, especially in upstairs VIP room.

Dadis might not even be the hot place on Thursday nights in CCS anymore. The nightlife shifts quickly there.

Rob Hay


Helem Roux is nice. I dig her. I don't pay more than 50 USD per hour in Latin America for a woman of that caliber.

I've been known to walk away when they wouldn't budge on price. I always ask myself, is she really going to be that much better than my hand? [There's a Reddd Foxxx routine on that.]

But that's not relevant to your quest.

What I have in mind may not be what you have in mind. I have in mind a whole con job. You are a big video producer looking for that Latina look. You get the mood modifiers [the coca cola and the doritos]. And it's all about the party, mon. Getting laid is an afterthought. And it's not what the party is about.

This can work but I'm not comfortable talking about it here. It's like talking about how to pick a lock.

Ferolga

Catire,

I am all for your videotaping...My friends tell me it is very amusing

But You know what..you never know whats going to happens unless you try....Its like any club here in New York its just a numbers game and if your dont mind getting reject a few times which i could care less...

Ferloga,

I am totally with you on just partying and seeing what happens from there. Its just all about having a good time

Regarding Helem I do regret putting her full name on the board as she is a know model in Paraguay and not a full time *****. I hate putting her info all over broadway but oh well too late.

I see where your coming from with not really wanting to pay but i figured if I'm going to spend all the money on a business class ticket, pay for a nice hotel, why but cheap and spend on a cheap piece of ass when i can go first class?

I got in touch with a photographer in Venezuela who seems pretty cool and I'll pm you his site he seems in touch with the scene down in Caracas and seems to be down with the program. He says he'll be back in Caracas in 12 days and any time after that I can go down and we'll see

Hey what do i have to lose? Its worth a try to check out the scene.

I will be traveling to Caracas in a couple of weeks and staying at the Embassy Suites. I noted a post that said it was visitor friendly. Can anyone else confirm that it is a good hotel? Are there any action locations near the Embassy Suites or would incall services be the best option?

Thanks,

Big John

Ran across a free translation site that may be of interest and helpful in sorting out the classified adds for those who do not habla too well.

http://ets.freetranslation.com/

Are there any Rio type HELP clubs in Caracas at the moment for seeing and takeing out pro's?

Catire mentioned one some time back. I think a druggy sort of place that gets busy around 4am.
Is that still around, what is the quality like?

What is the best place to go a bit earlier?

I shall be there in November if any one wants a beer.

Sorry,

The correct link is as follows:

http://www.freetranslation.com/

Rob Hay

<<<<Regarding Helem I do regret putting her full name on the board as she is a know model in Paraguay and not a full time *****. I hate putting her info all over broadway but oh well too late.>>>


I wouldn't worry about that in this case. You are merely claiming that you slept with her for a fee. You didn't post a photo of her naked on your bed. Quite frankly. No one knows that you did sleep with who you claim to have slept with.

She has nothing to worry about. Yet.

And for next time do what I do. I slept with an Oprah Winfrey lookalike. She was great.

Ferolga

Rob Hay

depends on what you will do.

Deception and creating a "party scene" is one thing.

going with a "group of mongers" into a hotspot disco and walking up to girls younger than your daughers and saying:

"Yo honey, we're a group of mongers from the world famous wsg, how much for the cuca?"

THAT my friend, I would pay for a videotape of THAT.

actually, I have to admit that ferolga's "party" idea is probably the best one (so long as you're not old enough to be her granddad- or some other assorted troll)

Keep in mind you're not talking about professional hos here.

You refer to normal/regular girls who "might" be open to a tryst with perhaps even some renumeration involved.

I remember this cabbie told me a story once how he picked up a girl at a front of a disco in Las Mercedes one night (almost morning), she was massively fucked up.. they talked..
next thing you know she suggests they go to a love motel..
She fucks the shit out of him for a couple of hours.. he drops her off back home.

then calls her the following day...
and she tells him

"I don't know you Señor, please stop calling my cellphone!"

LOLOLOLOLOLOLL!!!!

p.s. btw, If you're over 35, look it and dress the way I'd imagine a "group of mongers" might dress going out hoing.. you won't even get into Dadis Latino. or a similar spot. There's usually a huge line, especially on a hot night and they pick who they let in (though a BIG tip in bolivar terms will probably help with this particular problem, so long as you don't look downright embarrassing)

Catire


<<<I remember this cabbie told me a story once how>>>

I asked a cab driver once why was it that so many of them talked about sexual incidents with passengers. I found it absurd.

His answer was practical and made sense, "We are there and we are not expected home for a while."

Party on, dude
Ferolga

Here's ONE way to do the party.

http://www.exile.ru/171/feature_story.html

It's all fairly common sense and you can make the project smaller so that it comes across as more believable.

Also, keep in mind that I'm more like the Dennis Hopper character in Apocalypse Now, man. Than I am the guy to make this shi-at happen. Can you wrap your frontal lobe around that? Yeah.

Ferolga

One place where my attempted modelizing did not work was in Barranquilla, COlombia. I attempted to pickup a former queen of Carnival name Catherine Lafaurie....she can be found on the site
www.latindreamtours.com under the bikini contest photo....there are alot of girls in the contest that all hang out in the Disco Matraca and La Quinta, and she is the first girl with the photo in the section.

Well I wrote her and sent her my picture which she found to be cute and later met her but she obviously did not find my act amusing. She is no hoe so i didn't bother taking it in that direction. That night I went to Lucitania and bang a pretty hot chick from Medellin, i'll try to dig up some fotos...i know I posted it on some other sites just have to dig it up

I highly recommend using the Barranquilla dating agencies
I used:
southamericanladies.com

And www.barranquillabeauties.com

In both instances I avoided paying money for the sal just go into the office and aquaint yourself with the girls. 1 is Karen she is 19, very friendly and will offer to take you out on the town and is very cool. The other I forget her name is a very important journalist in Barranquilla and knows EVERY good looking girl in the city. SHe invited me into her home and cooked lunch and dinner for me a few nights. The people of Barranquilla are amazingly friendly and I was just taken aback by their hospitality

The other agency was next to my hotel. A couple weeks before I went I purchase some addresses of the girls. When I went to the office I found that some of the girl's addresses were wrong so I got a little annoyed and they let me go through their book of girls for free and made calls to set up dates for me. It was an older women but also very nice and friendly and I highly recommend it

Hey all. Looking for help here again. Catire and all you others in the know. I met this hot girl on line and we are going to meet. The problem is it is not in Caracas. I will have to take a plane to Puerto Ordaz. Can I just buy a ticket when I arrive in the airport in Caracas, or will it be more expensive. I found some sites that show the fare as 200usd.

The second problem I have, is she wants me to stay in a expensive hotel in Puerto Ordaz. Mira Best Western is 120 per night. I found another near that is only 60 a night. Does anyone know a hotel near the Mira that is cheaper, but ok looking.

I dont think I will have time for any excess wandering, but this is not a sure thing. She is hot, more mature, and not desperate. So while GFE may happen, I want to have a back up plan.

Thanks for any advice people.

Chazman

Can I get a update on what the current black market rate is for dollars? I am going this Monday.

Thanks all.

Chazman

Catire:

I have searched the posts and can’t seem to find a mention of a good bar where pro’s go.
You mentioned the after hours bar in Chacaito, where ever that is. Is this place still open and safe for tourists?

So if it is where pros go after hours then where are they before?
Do you know of a good bar to find pros. Like Rio’s HELP ideally.

The sexycaracas site seems very hit or miss.

I am just trying to plan on how long to stay in caracas. I thought 6 days arriving on Thursday.

I would like to try Dadis, if not just to look. I am 30, dress OK and have got into similar places before.
If I can’t get in, at least I tried.
I assume Thu is still the night. What time does the line start, and is it in the centre?
Are there any non pro pick up places that are more down market?
I don’t suppose you ever meet wsg’s for a beer?

Thanks

Ferolga:
Good tips, and
I love the smell of fanny in the mornings!

Reading through this section, it appears that despite the reputed good looks of the women, there isn't that much to look forward to from a mongers point of view. I am planning my multi stop South American trip and I am not currently inclined to go to Cartagena or Caracas (or elsewhere in Venezuela). It looks like all the action is in Brazil and Argentina...or am I mistaken ?

JD,

Read my report of Barranquilla. I was very impressed with the place as an alternative for non pro hunting

I wouldn't give up on Caracas just yet I'll let you know after I go how i feel.

JackDaniels,
Pass on Cartagena and you'll be passing on heaven on earth.
The disco called "La Dolce Vida" in Cartagena is full nightly with solid 7-10's which can be had all night for about 50 bucks.
Brazil is off the hook, Argentina is good but expensive...

Hmmm...while I have been going to Colombia for years and love Cartagena as much as anyone, I have never seen a "10" working in LDV. Obviously, this is a subjective call, but I would say that the VAST majorty of LDV mujeres range from pudgy, older women a few years past their prime (I'd rate them about a "4") all the way to young (18-23), new, and lindas chicas who I'd rate in the "8" range. Sometimes, you'll find a couple of 8.5's.

But I certainly wouldn't go to LDV to find the mystical "10" - for if she is truly a "10" (which, IMHO, means flawless), she'll last about 5 minutes in Cartagena before some foreign tourist grabs her or she becomes some narco's novia. The main advantages of LDV chicas are their awesome attitudes and consistent GFE's IF you're a half-way decent guy. Me extrano Colombia y Venezuela muchismo!!

As far as a non-pro pick up bars in Caracas which are more "down market", I would recommend "Alcatraz" Discoteca in Las Mercedes. The girls there are usually middle to lower class and are very approachable. I've had great luck there especially on Monday nights which is ladie's night. By the way, this is Catire's discoteca favorita. :-)

Zippy

I agree with you. I didn't see a 10 in LDV.

It has been my experience that upscale Massage parlors are better to come across the better looking girls. And the girls know how to do what they do better.

I would say that I only saw two tens, maybe three in Bogota. One is the girlfriend of a succesful race car driver [Or, maybe I transferred my fascination with race cars to her.] The other was a Sofia Vergara look-alike [See Rob Hay, "look-alike" ;>)] in a massage parlor. It's insane, I can still go throught the experience frame by frame. Yeah, that what a ten implies.


Ferolga

Thanks for your response. CTG does look tempting. It sounds like nothing in the world compares to the Brasilieras - but I do like to travel, and mongering in different countries is a good objective, I think.

I guess Brazil and Argentina are "easier" and hence my enquiry "is it that good to make the trip to CTG or CCS ?". If I am passing through that's fine, but is it worth targetting CTG or CCS as a destination for getting good looking girls into my bed.

In other words, taking into account the "danger" in both these places (and the touts in CTG) and the additional hassle of getting there, I wonder if the attraction should be because the girls are the best or just because they are different.

BTW, shadow - your mail is full and I could not send you a PM.

Cheers.

Guys,
Actually upon reflection, I would agree with most of your sentiments. I guess I've never seen a "10" in LDV, if you are comparing to maybe a Playboy bunny or Miss Colombia finalist.
Having said that, I have seen the 8's and 8.5's in good supply every time I've been there. (Ok, this is like maybe 8 nights total, so maybe I was lucky.) But I do want to say this is a strict scale, I'm a picky guy when it comes to women and what I'll pay for.
I guess I was just enthusiastic about CTG, I think it's a pretty good place to monger, especially if you're interested in non-pros. The caliber of chica you'll see just walking down the street will keep your head on a swivel your entire trip. The working girls will do their best to make you fall in love, and they're good at it.The touts are annoying, but if you stay away from the beach you'll avoid 90% of them. The cost of everything else is dirt cheap, your money goes a long way there.
The danger in CTG is minimal, no more than any other big city. I could be wrong, but I would rate CCS as much more dangerous from the tales I've heard. I know no one who has been mugged or robbed in CTG, can't say the same for Caracas.
I'll be in CCS the night of the 7th, then on to Puerto La Cruz for 6 days. Hope to have a good report when I get back. I'll be happy if I can find the same quality of chicas in PLC as is in CTG :-)

P.S. I was unaware my PM box was full, I deleted a few to make room for any incoming PM's...

Forget CTG unless your into annoying touts. OK, Tony is riot to hang out with just as long as you keep him in check, but after saying no the 10th tout on the beach it gets a bit annoying.

And then they wait outside bars, cafes, rest. for you.

Unless you don't mind the constant harassment go to Barranquilla! Its one of my favorite spots all time I went there 3 times in 6 months. I can't talk this place up enough.

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Forum,
Can anyone make a recommendation for hotel in Caracas for my one night there? Chica friendly, safety are priorities, also wouldn't mind inexpensive...
Thanks in advance :-)

Good recommendations are the Embassy Suite hotel in Caracas, girl friendly and not too expensive, the Marriott, more expensive and lastly, the Eurobuilding and/or the Tamanaco. Avoid the Hilton at all costs as it is in a very unsafe part of town. The Melia is in a "red light zone" which has its ups and downs, but, IMHO, is not a comparable choice to the other hotels mentioned. "Inexpensive" hotels for your consideration may be 1) Best Western, 2) Paseo las Mercedes, 3) Continental Altamira, 4) Hotel Tampa and 5) Hotel Presidente. I rate these in order of safety and being in a relatively "decent" part of town. I have been robbed in various trips and, believe me, no saving in hotel rate can compensate for the hassle of losing documents and risking your personal safety during an international trip.

Good luck and happy mongering.

Be safe,

Be There

Shadow,

I think you will probably be disappointed with Puerto La Cruz. I have a very good friend who lives there and the P4P opportunities are limited to a few strip bars and a couple of clubs (some in shaddy areas). The scene is better in Caracas (and the P4P scene is Caracas is poor compared to Colombia and old Cuba).

However, PLC (much like many small Venezuelan towns) is a decent place to find a non-pro novias. So hang out at the malls, in the casinos and in the discos and you might just find your own personal Ms. Venezuela...

Zippy,
You're not pumping me up too much 4 days before I leave :-)
I will check out the casinos and clubs for sure, always looking for a non-pro before p4p anyway. Maybe I'll get lucky?
Should have some kind of report for you guys in a couple weeks.
Colombia is hard to top in my book also, but my last 2 trips have been there and my next trip this fall will also be there so wanted to explore a little and do some scuba diving etc.
Still not sure where to stay for my one night in Caracas, will keep reviewing the old posts here but would be nice for a recommendation from one of the Caracas veterans...

obviously you're not reviewing it all that well/thoroughly, since a guy talked about staying at the was it Hotel Cumberland right across the street from one of the American bars (Doral?) at an Internet rate of 60 bucks a nite? The area can be "slightly" dodgy at night, but there's an areperia just below a half a block at the intersection with Francisco Solano that is always full of cabbies, cops. etc

Catire,
You're right. My bad. Tried to take the easy way out, and ask someone to waste a few minutes typing a post, when I could have just spent a couple hours reviewing all 22 pages of this forum. If "a guy" says Hotel Cumberland works for him, then it's the place for me. Just misunderstood what this forum was for. But I got it now, thanks.

Shadow,

Didn't mean to bum you out before your trip! The PLC area has a couple of decent beaches so it's not all bad. And you very well could get lucky by discovering a decent P4P place. Good luck!

Thanks Zippy, will report back in a couple weeks, hopefully with a positive report :-)

What about the Tamanaco Intercont?

Is that chica friendly and a safe area?

Where to go and stay to find young women in Caracas?

Thanks

Zippy and all,
Hurricane Ivan canceled my trip. Airports were shut down, etc.
Hence, no report forthcoming. Back to work for me :-(

Is the Marriott much better than the Tamanaco?
Is it in a safer area, they seem pretty close?

I assume the Tamanaco is girl friendly.


Will any one be there from 4-11 November??

Ivan blew up my plans for last weekend. Travelman I dont think I can hold out until Nov though. I have jury duty the begining of next month, so hopefully soon thereafer.

I have been using www.latinamor.com and amigos.com to pretty decent result. It going to be a good time whenever.

I just talked to a buddy of mine who recommends this hotel

Paseo Les Mercedes. 130,000 bv per night including all taxes and breakfast
chica friendly
close to clubs,bars, malls, *****s

Can anyone recommend a good gym down there that the hotties go to? Experience tells me this is one of the better pickup spots even though i am one skinny dude.

Has anyone used a guide/driver/pimp/jinetero a la Cuba while in Caracas? Perhaps I'm just over researching this damn place too much and just need to go already, but i just want to be prepared and not waste time.

I've always love Colombia but lately Caracas has been calling my name ... even though I almost got mugged last week in Chacaito by two teenaged looking guys, a half block from my hotel.

This chica has me coming back for more ...

Just be careful out there ... always have your 'radar' on for bad guys ... don't carry what you can't stand to lose ... just in case.

Here's my chica that keeps me running back ...

... I love the morenas ...

Rob Hay,
I've got the number of a guy who can help you out in Caracas.
He's trustworthy, dependable, and speaks english. Will pick you up at the airport. I can't guarantee he has extensive knowledge of mongering locations, as the time I was there he was introduced to me by my then girlfriend, so I wasn't "mongering". But he did take me to a stripclub, and I'd be about 99% sure he could hook you up if that's what you wanted. PM me for his number if interested.

Ricker,

you showed some mighty fine AZZZZZZZ there:-)

IMHO that is a big fat 9.5....woweeee

And there's only one place on earth were you can gonna get it:

LATIN AMERICA.....right!!!


Love it.....

Johan

Just bought the ticket nonstop nyc to caracas $450. Ok guys so I'm going to Caracas on THursday, I was waiting for a friend of mine that is in Brazil right now to get back to NYC so we could go together but just I couldn't hold out any longer so I'm gonna do it alone. Its just going to be for 5 days 4 night just to check out the scene and if I like I'll definately be back for a longer period next time.

On one of the other boards I saw a rather cheap price for the Paseo Las Mercedes Hotel at 130,000bv has anyone had experience with this hotel. GIrl Friendly?I've heard conflicting reports regarding this place. Well I've still have time to look around.

I made some connections with some girls on latinamor.com and amigos.com and set up a couple dates, we'll see how that goes. ONe is a mega hottie but spends alot of time talking about GOd and how she wants a man who is completely devoted to serving God. Yikes, doesnt exactly sound like a sure thing in terms of getting laid but is shes as hot as her picture than its worth a crack at it.

Lastly has anyone use the services of Caracas Playboys list on the agency section of sexycaracas? They seem to have by far the highest level of talent and alot of know model in caracas so they say? SInce I get in pretty late Thursday night and may not be in the mood to go out this might be the best way to start the night.

Everything seems a bit pricy for a 3rd world country.hotels,chics,ect but what the hell why be cheap on a vacation.

Just bought the ticket nonstop nyc to caracas $450. Ok guys so I'm going to Caracas on THursday, I was waiting for a friend of mine that is in Brazil right now to get back to NYC so we could go together but just I couldn't hold out any longer so I'm gonna do it alone. Its just going to be for 5 days 4 night just to check out the scene and if I like I'll definately be back for a longer period next time.

ON one of the other boards I saw a listed price of 130,000 for the Paseo Las Mercedes Hotel has anyone had experience with this hotel. Girl Friendly???I've heard some conflicting reports about this place....allowing only one girl per day or something to that effect. Well I've still have time to look around.

I made some connections with some girls on latinamor.com and amigos.com and set up a couple dates, we'll see how that goes. ONe is a mega hottie and other I guess we'll just see. I'm 27, look decent enough, got enough game so I'm sure by the 2nd or 3rd date if its anything like COlombia I should be hitting skins.

Lastly, has anyone use the services of Caracas Playboys list on the agency section of sexycaracas? They seem to have by far the highest level of talent and alot of know model in caracas so they say? SInce I get in pretty late Thursday night and may not be in the mood to go out this might be the best way to start the night.

But this agency wants 300,000bv/hr for their top girl "Samantha Thomas",is this insane or what???This girl had better be the best looking girl in Venezuela for those prices. Even the top girls on sexycaracas want 200,000bv./hr neg. I wanted to check out Caracas because I thought this was an unspoiled scene unlike that of say Hotel Del Rey, Help/Barbarella but it seems these Venezuelan girls want simliar $$. I guess I spent so much time reseaching the non pros I didn't throughly reseach the p4p scene and I'm really surprised at the prices.

I know that this place has a reputation of having the most Miss Universes and all but I was under the impression that Venezuela is a 3rd world country like Colombia but both hotels and girls are charging way more than their Colombian counterparts. Theres no turning back now, I mean don't mind spending money, but they had better look the part.

TIckets already bought and I'm not gonna be cheap while I'm there but these Venezuelan better be 10x better looking than anything I've seen in my life. If one these 2,300bv/hr girls come over not looking like she just step off the runway she's getting sent right home, I've been a dickhead like that before and I'll do it again.

Dude, my guess is that you'll be sorely disappointed with the P4P scene in Caracas unless you have some serious cash to burn. You can find cute girls in the strip bars, through escort services and in the casas on Avenida Casanova for reasonable prices, but definitely way more expensive than Colombia.

You have to understand that Caracas was infested with gringo oil workers for decades and in general, people there have more money than other South American countries (although this is changing rapidly due to the recent political problems).

I still maintain that there was never a better time to meet NON-PROS in Venezuela if you can put in the time, however, P4P is spotty and expensive. I used to live in Caracas, where I had a novia, and then would vacation in Colombia...

Ok I arrived last night, my impressions are that this place looks exactly just like Bogota. I exchanged money at the airport 1-2550, I probably could have gotten a little more but i was ready to leave after a long flight and some haggling. From my conversations with other monger i knew that there are alot of shiesters especially at the airport.

Watch out for this scam. The guy i exchanged with try to use a smaller bills ( 2000 i think) mixed in with the 20,000, and he proceeded to count it as a 20,000 note. They look very similar and if your not really paying attention they will get you. Well having alot of experience in business dealing with these sorts(Russian,Ukrainians, Nigerian<--- watch out in these places) I was almost expecting something like this. I caught it the first time he counted but was curious to see if it was a mistake or if he was trying to scam me. He is a really idiot though he tried to slip 5 of them instead of just 1 or 2, I guess i just have screw me sign on my forehead. Hogs get slaughtered. I simply told him I exchanging elsewhere unless he gives me additional 50,000. I started walking away and of course he comes running back saying he wants to deal.

On to the mongering.

I got into the hotel late called everyone on my list from sexycaracas I had choosen out and nobody answered so i called caracas playboy and the girl i choosen wasn't available but he said he would send over his next best girl. I really dont remember the name but i do have some pics i will post when i get back to the states. I told the reception to tell the girl to go away if she is not looking right.

But i can say that I was very surprised at the service and how cool the girl was. It was a true GFE, BBBJ, couple positions and she stayed the full hour told her manager she was leaving and stayed an additional 30-45 minutes free and give me her number and to call her directly next time. 19-22? She was 5'9 120ish slim figure nice course. She was very hot but for the price she had better been. She wanted to go to disco Belle Epoque but i was drained with the flight and everything so made plans to go the the LOFT tonight. I also i have date with one of the latinamor girls at 8. That is if something better doesn't come along before now and then.

Keep you all posted

Rob,
Keep us posted amigo.
Hope our mutual friend helped you out...

Day 2 part 1

I couldn't sleep and woke up not entirely rested after only 4 hours of shuteye but i eager to see what Caracas had to offer. First i headed to a gym that was recommended from Fabiana called Valle Arriba Atletic Center. This place is a meat market, my driver/interpreter keep on pointing out different soap opera stars to me as they passed by, though theres no way i was going to score with any of them. BUt everyone seemed very friendly and eager to help. I did ask one of the guys for some name of popular discos in the areas, so he invited me to a party at Vintage, which is in San Ignacio, and put my name on the guest list. The cost was 40,000 for a 1 day guest pass. The facilities are pretty big, equpment is a bit old but i saw some of the hottest bods I've ever seen so it was a nice excersion.

I went back to the hotel and called my list on Sexycaracas again, and again i mostly didnt get through to anyone. I did get in touch with Sabrina so set up an appointment with her. She lives pretty close by and came 1/2 hour later. She said she would wait for me in lobby because she didnt want to go to the front desk. When i saw her from a distance I thought I really scored the prototype chic. 5'8-5'9 slim, model build, dressed very sexy and looked no older than 19,20. But upon closer inpection you could see that hard hooker eyes and the even harder attitude that came with it. She had a SPoke not a word for Enlish but know the lyrics to every Maroon 5 song. She didnt loosen the attitude until I started snapping pics of her which took a bit of convincing, but after that point she was very totally cool, and not a clock watcher even though the session went over on my count.

Again, pics i will post when i get back to NY. Her skills in bed more than made up for the hard eyes. I will say that her BBBJ are the best I have ever gotten in my life, and I have gotten quite a few. Her oral skills are very high and I would recommend a blowjob from her to anyone. She was also very good for sex too and she insisted on being on top. She rode me for a good 30-40, in different positions, shes got alot of energy and really knows how to move her body. After she came she just wanted to suck me off which I happily obliged and came in her mouth. IMHO i think everyone she try her if you have to time just based on her oral skills although she gave off a bit of a funny smell after comming and the hard pro eyes and initial hard pro attitude might be too much of a road block

Shadow: I met Reynotto at the airport but he told me his mother died 2 days prior and he seemed not to be in a very good or talkative mood as a result. He seemed very down and I didnt want to bother him as a result. Give him a call

if she wanted you to go with her to Belle Epoque, you are definitely under 30.

correct?

p.s. very cool club, btw better than the stuck up sifrino shit at the Loft, imo.

Guys,

I have to agree with Zippy here....Caracas girls are BIG time into $$$$$$$$ and/or into €€€€€€€€€€...:-(

Prices are at times ridiculously high!!!

Met some nasty spoild goldiggin'bitches on the web...LOL

Please DO speak spanish if you go!!

Johan

Catire,

Yes I am under 30

Zippy,

You are right regarding non pros but i was not disappointed with the P4P either though

Day2 part 2

After my session with Sabrina I met up with a Caracas based monger Be There, who was a great help with the planning of this trip. He was very helpful in giving my advise with different hotels, agencies, nightclubs and orientation with the city. He is a very nice guy and we had a few drinks and shot the shit and he, as well as just about everyone I have ever spoken to, did advise me to stay clear of the area around the Hilton. Well, inadvertantly did not heed the warnings and I found myself in a bit of a situation a little later in the evening.

I was invited by one of the girls from latinamor to see her tango company perform at the Teresa Carreno Theatre in downtown Caracas. I'm a bit late as we drove up to it and it is completely pitch dark in front of the entrance, so i definately didnt want to get out there. He finally drops me in front of a lighted section in front of the taxi stands. I walk into an upstairs bar/cafe thinking this was the entrance of the place. The bartender points me to go back to the pitch dark area of the entrance to the theatre. I look across the street and i see the Hilton Hotel and quite a few riff raffs that were in the bar coming in my direction. About this time i realized I made a pretty bad decision in coming here, so I just running to a waterfountain, luckily this lead to the side entrance of the theater I came running into the show just before the intermission. One of the ushers relayed to me the message that I was suppose to meet Iris outside the ticketing booth. DONT DO THIS EITHER. In fact you can just avoid this whole area.

I'm waiting for them outside, right in front of the ticketing booth after the show is over and everyone has left and all of the suddent all of the lights go off. A few riff raffs that were walking in the opposite direction see me and stop and stop walking back from where they came from, the whole time checking me out. I started hightailing it right back to the theatre, then out of nowhere Iris and Armando appear. The point of this whole long boring text is to prevent anyone from ever going into this area unescorted. This is one shady area and my dumb overdressed ass deserved to be taught a lesson that night. But fortunately they came in the nick of time and i live to party on.

We go to a the cafe Rajatable which is next door, I wouldn't advise going here without Venezuelan friends, but it is a great experience. The scene is all art students from UCV, theater people,grung musicians, and dancers, which was pretty much my crowd in college. I was too overdressed as I was prepared to go to San Ignacio later. Rajatabla was a crazy place with everyone smoking weed and dancing their asses off. And we all know that nobody quite shake their asses like the blue collar girls. They play the best music of any club in Caracas with a mix of hip hop to salsa beets, hip hop salsa, spanish funk. I would recommend this place to anyone provided you are young, look like you could somewhat fit in or else you could have alot of unwanted attention.

They said they wanted to show me how the "cool" people in Caracas partied before we to see how the "fake" people partied. Damn near every guy i talked from the blue bloods at valle arriba to the blue collar boys at rajatabla told me that in Venezuela is it is damn near impossible to get laid on the same night you meet a girl(even for them), especially at San Ignacio, as these girls are just there to tease, flaunt and be seen flaunting. Everyone said the same thing that you have to wine and dine the non pros for about a few WEEKS before you see any action. I pretty much laughed in their faces, insulted their game and told them I'll show them how its done. To make this long winded story short I pushed up on quite a few hotties that night everywhere I went (Guzzanos Y Ranas, Loft, Vintage) but my night ended up at ANgelus.

Apperantly the Sex in the City culture that has affected Colombia has not reached Venezuela yet. I will say the Loft and Vintage have hands down the hottest girls in Caracas, and they were very friendly as well. Its not surprising considering that everyone there was high on Extasy and Coke as I was offered no less than 3 times by some of these chicks.

25k for a tab of X
10k for a line of coke.
The artist guys offered shrooms for free, I wasnt in the mood this time around but who know next time.

yes, it's very dangerous around the Hilton area. The barrios are merely a hop and a skip away, and all the "malandros" need to do is simply walk down the hill.

good observations on everything else, including the difficulty of getting into a Venezolana's panties on the first date. They pride themselves on not being "those kinds of girls" LOL

(that's why Ven guys love American chicks that they can score with immediately LOL )

.... but...... it generally tends to be worth the wait, and once she gives herself to you, you get it ALL.

As Leopoldo Lopez has told you elsewhere IMHO I think you went about the P4P the wrong way.

but whatever floats your boat.

I assume the "Sex in the City" culture means a willingness to fuck someone shortly after meeting them?

where in Colombia have you found this to be true? Colombia has a reputation for being more conservative than Venezuela and this holds true for the women as well.

Rob Hay

Good report.

It is nice to read about someone that ventures out into the real world.

Ferolga

This is Fabiana.

This is Fabiana #2.

Sabrina

Sabrina photo #2.

Slim

Slim photo #2

A view of the mountain behind.

Mountains

From the hotel.

From Angelus.

Another view.

Catire-Barranquilla/Bogota, I've never been on a second date in either city where I haven't gotten laid. I been to Charlotte in Bogota and hooked up as well. THere no question that these girls are more uptight that Colombiana, but I am that more intrigued with the place, the prudishness of the girls and see myself coming back with some frequency as I feel there is alot of unfinished business here.

Day 3

Started very late for me as i got back to the hotel after sex and arapas, which are damn good in Caracas. I have 2 dates set up today with 1 amigos.com girl and 1 latinamor girl. I was feeling that a 1 on 1 date might produce better results than just trying to hook up randomly at a club. Also i was able to slip in a hour fuck with Giselle from Caracas playboy in between, she was an alternate for Vanessa from sexycaracas.com who came by the hotel by did not pass inspection physically and the my initial impression was not good as she was wearing a serious frown on her face. I said no gracious gave her 20,000 for her taxi and we went out seperate ways. I did not want to do this but this girl i would not have sex with here in NY for free, therefore I cannot see myself paying for this one. Actually I DO NOT recommend anyone use this girl, you just have to trust my judgement on this one.

I was horny by this time and called for Samantha Thomas from caracas playboy and she was not available and i called Jade about 50 times this week and always the voicemail, Fabiana was also not picking up her phone. Caracas playboy finally sent Giselle Lauren who was available. I would have to say that I was not particually impressed, decent body, somewhat cute face, but braces but her attitude was very cheerful and I was quite horny by that time so i just did it. And actually i would say her performance was not too shabby at all and she got really wet and into things as well so it good to see. Instead of cab fare she asked for my Pink Floyd Wish you were there CD. SHe is not a bad option for anyone to choose just based on her great attitude. Interesting enough i see her later in the date with her boyfriend at the Sambil.

Third date of the date of the day with with a high school mallrat name Maria, we were to meet at the Sambil and catch a movie. Talking on the phone with her made me very disgusted as she spent a bit too much time bragging about her rich father and who complained that Chavez's economic policies are screwing her family up so much that they can't go clothes shopping in the US and Europe anymore. In a country where the majority of the people have no decent clothes its very hard to feel simpathy for this type of person. You almost feel glad that Chavez is screwing her families' precious shopping trips. I look past this and agree to meet her at the Sambil anyways because from the looks of her picture she is very attractive. As I am walking around the Sambil to the spot we were to meet I just suddenly change my mind and turn around. I am just too old for this girl i decide and she is way too immature to even hang out with. I guess she was a bit pissed off that i flaked because we were to meet the next day at Valle Arriba and she didnt show either. Don't ask, I'm just very fickle, Sunday I was alone during the day so I wanted to she her.

THat night had all the makings of a good one as I met Danielle at San Ignacio and it got pretty hot and heavy on the dance floor and we fooled around a bit but also this night ended up at Angelus, see the pics of the big ass girl below, she definately top 5 there. OF the 150 girls at Angelus only 5 are really hot, 10-15 ok and the rest are not fuckable.

ANother matter if you have a tri-band phone just buy a sim card here for $20 and you receive cell calls for free. My blackberry was not getting mail here but i'm told this is possible to adjust too.

This is one girl from Latinamor that i did not have time to meet. She speak very very little English so its going to take someone with a big of Spanish skills to meet her. I have her email and telephone number, for those who ARE going to Caracas soon, let me know and I will give you the info. Something tells me she is less of a good girl than the other girls i met.

Robhay, very interesting characterization of Colombianas vs Venezolanas.

I suspect most people would take issue with you but you have to go by your own personal experiences. Perhaps your statistical sample is too small, leading to the "aberration".

Venezolanas, especially Caraquenas, are said to be far more aggresive and bold than their Colombiana counterparts.

Rob,
Great report, and thanks for the pictures.
Would love to get ahold of that thick one from Angelus :-)

if you like them that "thick" then you can get one like that for one third (or less) of the Angelus price. (though I write that not knowing what the face looked like)

I know girls that started out working the Calle de los Hoteles that later made their way to Angelus,as they were told/realized they could quadruple plus their earnings, if they merely started to look more "glamorous".

A Calle girl I once met in Morrison's somehow tried to convince me (after I pointed out the ridiculousness of this reasoning) that because at Morrison's she gets her hair done every couple of days and wears a very nice dress, nicer clothes, more makup, etc

that her company has suddendly become worth triple plus of what it used to be worth.

She really believed it.

I, unfortunately, did not.

Forgive my spelling and grammer, I just read my posts and I should have spell checked it first.

Shadow- You would like her, the name is Kathuska. The first thing i look at in judging a girl is her face and this one has the face of an angel. Watch out for her older sister though, she also works at Angelus and has the face of a *****, and will bother you to death. Other than her the top girl has orange-blond hair, tall, and 2 tatoos on her ass, I forget her name but she is an amazing fuck.

Catire- I would to an agree with the fact that non pro Venezuelan girls are more aggressive in the fact they will initial contact in the clubs whereas in Colombia I felt like i had to talk to a girl first but, from my limited experience I feel that Venezuelan girls are not even looking to hookup that night, I don't feel its true with Colombians.

I won't bore you people with the details of Day 4 as they sound very much like day 2 and 3.

In conclusion, Caracas IS NOT a place to go mongering. I WOULD NOT recommend someone go to Caracas for the sole purpose of mongering. Based on what i look for in a mongering destination Caracas is not an ideal location.

First the working girls are not even comparable to the best looking girls in the city. In Cuba, ALL the best looking girls are available. Also in Rio, at the least there are working girls comparable to the best looking non pros you would find in the discos.

In Caracas the working girls are not even close in physical apperance to the non pros hanging out in San Ignacio, maybe Fabiana, but even she is a step below the hotties in SI. The prices here do not justify the talent. After hearing from many monger they have a bit of an attittude and proformance may not be up to expectations, I was very pleasantly surprise by the attitudes of the girls i did fuck. All of them would go as far as I wanted to go with them in terms of gfe, bbbj, ect., but I'm sure all this is subjective from monger to monger.

Secondly for essentially the same looking girls in Bogota you will pay no more than 1/2.

Caracas and Bogota are very similiar I would say in the looks of the women expect I found Bogota to be more "white" and women in Caracas to have more of the indian mix, at least that is what i saw in San Ignacio. ALong the coast of Colombia you will find more of the African influence. I can't remember seeing more than 5 black people my whole trip to Caracas, and they all worked at the hotel. Personally I prefer a bit more mixture of races. So if what your looking for is a wider selection than Colombia is a more viable option.

But as Zippy said before and I agree 100% Caracas is a GREAT place for non pro action. Provided that you have the time, the women here are absolutely the best. I just feel in love with the place, the people and especially the women. I just thought they were the nicest people, but then again coming from NYC, anyone would seem nice compared to my people. I have recommend this place to some of my older friends looking to maybe settle down as I think this place is an ideal place to find someone, provided one is willing to put in the time, which it takes in Caracas

I think their Colombian sisters are just too easy of a lay and I wouldn't trust someone I could fuck so easily. YOu can date alot of nice good looking girls in Caracas. There is alot of shit i have to take care of in the states or I'd go back next weekend! But seriously I can't wait to get back to Caracas, I'm already trying to plan the next one but I will have to stay for a longer period or else its not really worth it for my point of view.

I have been viewing this board for a few years and using alot of peoples tip. I've been pretty selfish in keeping pics and info to myself, and in return have taken alot of heat for it so this pretty comprehensive report should more than make up for the lack of info i have provided in the past.

Oh I forgot to add another thing that Caracas has over Bogota is that the weather is ideal. Bogota just gets way too cold at night.

Catire and I have had this debate before, but I agree with Rob Hay. non-pro Venezolanas (especially Caraquenas), in general, are WAY MORE uptight than most non-pro Colombianas that I've come across.

In fact, I've never heard anyone (besides Catire) mention that they think Colombianas are more conservative in regards to sex as compared to Venezolanas....

I never meant to imply that Venezuelans were uptight. I meant to say that they are just not used to the whole "Sex in the City" thing.

Actually most Venezuelans I hung out with all said something similar in regards to the conservative nature of Venezuelan girls in regards to sex. They just said it is not in their culture to hook up with random guys whenever the meet them. But if Catire is hooking up with that frequency in Caracas, more power to him.

Prior to actually going to Caracas I read quite alot about Venezuelans and how much attitude they have, so much so that i was really turned off by the whole cultures.

BUt I think Venezuelans get a bum rap for being stuck up. The whole thing with Chavez and the strike has affected this country alot more than i would have ever thought. More than a few people told me stories about how their lives have drastically changed in the last couple of years, and they all sound the same. One girls told me how her familiy went to fairly weathly with apartments all over the city to never having recovered from the strike and being saddled with debt. Maybe its just that being from New YOrk i am dealing with people everyday with huge egos and my tolerance for attitude is just way too high, but I can honestly say that I did not one person in Venezuela that wasn't downright humble!

I think anyone who goes to Caracas will find that these people think we're the cocky ones.

I really miss Caracas and i think i'm going back in November but not before i try to slip in a trip to Medellin this month. Be sure to get in touch with local monger BE THERE , he was very helpful in guiding me around the city and giving me advise. Too bad i didn't listen to him in regards to hanging out around the Hilton Hotel area.

rob hay,

point of clarification - i didn't mean to say that non-pro venezolanas are uptight in general. i meant in regards to the speed at which they "give it up" (and actually, this is limited to the city of caracas, much better success in the smaller towns). that is to say, in my experience, they are much more uptight about giving it up as compared to their hermanas colombianas (with the exception of chicas in medellin).

by the way, i have never found venezuelans (even caraquenos) stuck-up at all. in fact, i've always found them quite friendly and accomodating.

if you want to get a "better" feel about "real" venezuela, you need to get out of caracas- caracas is not indicative of the rest of the country. hardly anyone explores the rest of venezuela and i can guarantee you that there are gems to be found in the smaller towns and pueblitos.

good reports, though. they seem to reinforce what most have said about caracas- good place for non-pro experiences if you have the time, mediocre p4p destination.

I'll have to agree with you guys ... lately I've been in Venezuela a lot, sharing time between between Caracas and Maracaibo.

I find the people of Caracas to be very nice in general ... I keep coming back not for the PFP (which Zippy said is much better in Colombia), but for the normal chicas I've met.
I enjoy sampling the daytime PFP too while my friends are in school or working ... some gems can be found in some of these studios around town ... as a matter of fact, I've met some pretty cool chicas that work in these studios and have taken them out on "real dates" ... they do appreciate being treated like that (with respect) and the rewards are great.

The one thing I find about Caracas is the street crime ... after an attemted mugging on me a few weeks back, I do find myself "checking six" a lot.
It seems like these "muggers" are a bit more organized than what I'm used to in Medellin for example.
It seems these "bands of muchachos" scout for prey and pounce in a quick, concerted mugging on the unexpecting.
Caracas is a fantastic place ... just be cautious and smart ...
Sorry to get off the subject ... just wanted to throw that caution out there.

In Maracaibo I find a whole different attitude from the people.
Still very nice, just like in Caracas but more laid back for sure.
It has more of that "coastal town" feel to it ... sort of like Barranquilla, Colombia.
The chicas are definitely less sophisticated / complicated ... I've found them to be very very friendly.
The drawback of Maracaibo is ... it's hotter than hot in the day and the Spanish spoken there is "muy Carribean" ... much more difficult to understand ... for me at least, though I am getting accustomed to it a bit.
... and, of course, Maracaibo, because it's much less populated than Caracas ... does not have the massive amounts of beautiful chicas walking about like in Caracas. There are definitely hot chicas, just not the amount.

If P4P is not that great, what is there to do if someone wants both entertainment in the evenings as well as the usual tourist activities in the day time ? Does Isla Margarita satisfy both requirements ?

ZIppy and RIcker,

I think that I should take your both your advise and try out some other areas of Venezuela as well just to get a better idea of the place.

I was thinking of Valencia as a possible option until i read this quote from an old report describing the scene in Valencia written by Zippy which i found hilarious, "Old, hard-core, chain-smoking, whisky-drinking or just plain fat mujeres sitting around dreaming of days gone by when they were young, thin, and pretty." Yikes, i can totally picture that in my head and its quite a scary thought.

Maybe Maracaibo is a viable option. How is the street crime there?. I see Maracaibo as a place where you definately have to look for the gems but could be a very rewarding as well.

I'm glad that this board is heating up a bit with more info and posters. FOr a while it was pretty dead. But most die hard Brazil, Costa Rica, Cuba or Colombia mongers I've talked to won't even consider coming to a place like Caracas, so it still does not appeal to the hardcore monger

But what it lacks in the p4p scene it more than makes up in non pro action.

JackDaniels, there is more than enough touristy and cultural crap to keep you occupied in the day and enough nightlife to keep you busy at night in Caracas. From what i hear Margarita is costly and lacks in both p4p and non pro

Rob:

Thanks for the updates.

Can you tell me which days are good at Loft/Vintage?
Is it just the weekend?

Does any one know if Mazara in Tower KPMG is good and where it is. I think it is in La Castellena area?

Also a place called Le Club in Ing Bank where ever that is.

So Dadi Latino is out of favour, shall miss that one.

Is Alcatraz a good bet still.

In general what times do clubs there get busy and thin out.
Could I go to say loft, then later head over to Alcatraz or Studio 54 and still get in?

Any one else around from 4-11 November?

to quote Rob Hay

""But most die hard Brazil, Costa Rica, Cuba or Colombia mongers I've talked to won't even consider coming to a place like Caracas, so it still does not appeal to the hardcore monger ""


this is a good thing, because if it did, then P4P in Caracas would lose whatever charm it might have.

it's hard enough to draw the CCS working girl out of her shell as a working girl and her very "commercial" environment as it is, without hordes of "hard core mongers" running around.

In fact, one of the absolutely best things about Caracas is its current scarcity of gringos in every aspect of its everyday life. It wasn't always like this.

travelmen

club popularity in Caracas is akin to Manhattan or South Beach. What's hot today might not be that hot within a couple of months.
that's something you'll have to ascertain once on the ground.

as to when clubs "get busy"? Generally speaking - LATE! though this depends on the club/clientele. The good places probably peak around 1 am and keep going until 6- 8 in the morning.

then there's always the afterhours :)

"Old, hard-core, chain-smoking, whisky-drinking or just plain fat mujeres sitting around dreaming of days gone by when they were young, thin, and pretty."

I don't remember writing that report but I do remember the visual so I must have wrote it. haha

The P4P scene in Valencia was lame, but I found Maracay to be promising for P4P. There were a couple of decent and dirt cheap short-time places. I also dated a non-pro in Maracay for a while, so I will always have a special place for the city.

The beach pueblito of Chorini is about an hour north of Maracay, over the mountains and is a good, inexpensive place to take a chica; Very laid back though.

Ricker writes "The one thing I find about Caracas is the street crime ... after an attemted mugging on me a few weeks back...It seems like these "muggers" are a bit more organized than what I'm used to in Medellin for example. It seems these "bands of muchachos" scout for prey and pounce in a quick, concerted mugging on the unexpecting"

Would you mind elaborating on the circumstances of the attempted mugging? What time of day and what part of Caracas?
I take it there were multiple muggers?

Just to respond to Travelmen:

Le Club in the ING Bank building in La Castellana is a very nice, exclusive and private disco. If you can get an invite, go. Thursdays and Sundays are the hot nights. Sundays are informal, other days a jacket is required for men. Fridays and Saturdays are for old fogies like me.

Mazara is the in spot on Fridays. It is in the KPMG Bldg in Chacao on Francisco de Miranda Ave. Good disco for a mostly teen to early 20s crowd. My 17 yr old son goes there.

Best tip, go late, stay later!

Be safe,

Be there

Thanks Be There

I had no idea Le Club was invite only.
Sounds like Le Club is a very small in crowd any way so think I shall miss it.

Must give Loft and Vintage a try.
May try Dadi Latino also, but Rob says it is out of favour.

Didn't know Mazara was so young either.

I have this link which seems fairly good.

http://rumbacaracas.com/

reinaldo ... elaborating on the attempted mugging:

i was walking towards my hotel in chacaito (hotel villa de este) at about 7pm ... i was about a half a block from the hotel ... there was a rep001tering of people still out and about on the street where i was walking.

i noticed a guy (looked like a teeneager) crossing the street towards me ... i heard another guy behind me ... and when i sped up my pace, so did the guy behind me ... i thought, uh-oh ...

i yelled loudly, several times, "quitate" (go away), as i ran towards the entrance of the hotel ... the security guys, whom i befriended on past trips, heard my yelling and came out also ...

the bad guys ran away.

i got a nice lecture from the security guys ... they said that after 7pm, stay off the streets in chacaito, especially a gringo walking solo.
they told me of the groups of banditos just waiting for easy prey like me ... to make a quick mugging.
one or two guys grab you from behind ... usually in a tight choke hold, and the other(s) grab your stuff ... then they run.

like i said before ... i really like caracas ... more and more as a matter of fact.
i've made lots of friends now and have several normal chicas i really like ... but i learned a good lesson ... i let my guard down and i got a good "frightening" ...

... that said, i'll be back in 3 days ... and i can't hardly wait!

take care.

Thanks Ricker for the details. On another subject does anyone have any info on price and availability of generic viagra or cialis in Caracas?

Just to add to the "attempted mugging" post. This is quite common and absolutely true. A friend of mine reported a nearly exact incident a couple of weeks ago about three blocks from where you mentioned and he reported that when they grabbed him in a choke hold from behind, around 9PM, he actually pissed in his pants! His main problem was explaining to his girl friend how he had developed urinary incontinence all of a sudden since few people in their right mind hang around Chacaito after dark. The moral of this story is: at night, be right and don't walk around Chacaito. The Villa del Este has had an excellent restaurant, is it still good?

Be safe,

Be there

Be There, I thought old fogeys like you go to tascas.

or perhaps Malabar in Las Mercedes??

p.s. I still think belle epoque might be the "coolest" nightspot in CCS.

ricker, I walked the streets around Chacaito at all hours of day and night without problems but the area can get dicey, especially after the commuter crowd thins out. btw. quitate??? you might want to try alejate (go away) quitate has too many other possibilities to best fit the situation.

I'm now convinced that the charm of Caracas lies in the fact that it does NOT appeal to "hordes of hard-core mongers".

no better way to ruin a place than become overrun by the likes of those.

generic versions of Viagra are widely available in all pharmacies.
If I remember correctly one local version called Duroval or something like that, ran around 12K bolivares for 4 pills of what is the active ingredient equivalent of 70-75 mg.. which means you'd be paying slightly over a buck a pill, and even if it were only for 2 pills, you're getting a bargain.

Yes, Catire, I do go to tascas and I do go to Malabar occasionally as one of the owners is an acquaintance of mine. Sadly the prices are way out of line with the food and its beautiful ambiance is best sticking to the liquid nutrition.

The bad news is that first you go to discos, then tascas , then to the drugstore to buy viagra which is freely sold here in the brand original and various generic permutations, then the old folks cafeteria and then to yr final resting place!

Enjoy it while you can.

Be safe,

Be there

Had tried a gal in Caracas a few months ago (see my earlier report). Since then I am getting e-mails from her saying she is having problems (financial) and could I please help her out. She writes in Spanish and I know no Spanish. Would like to write to her "you gave no FREE fuck so you get no free money." Any suggestions?

Travelman is pitching me to go back to Caracas, and he is succeeding! But then again with all the hotties down in Caracas it's not exactly a hard pitch. I'm pretty tempted, just telling him about it is getting me pumped up all over again!

I just might be joining him next month if work allows it. Maybe right after the elections if I can decide on which knucklehead to vote for.

I guess she's got you pegged as a sucker.

there are many ways to say what you want to say.

Here's my submission:

Se parece que no hay nada gratis en la vida. Ni tu cuca, entonces ni mi ayuda.

(looks like there's nothing free in life. Not your pussy, therefore, not my help).

or if you want to stay on the high road:

no recibiste mi ayuda financiera cuando estuvimos juntos?

(did't you get my financial help when we were together?)

Tasty1 -

I've been working on Spanish this year, but I'm still fairly new to it. When I get email from Spanish girls I go to google or altavista and use the tranlation tools there. It's probably not a perfect translation, but it is good for getting the general idea of the message.

When I send out messages, I use the same tools. Normally, I translate the message from English to Spanish, and then translate it back to English just to see if I'm making any sense. I keep a dictionary nearby. It seems to work okay for getting messages across.

Jelly Donut

Jelly D
I do the exact same thing. My chicas are writing long email answers to my questions or comments so they probably understand the translations even though it isn't perfect.

Remember to change usted to tú (you) and su to tu (your).
I wish I took Spanish instead of French in h.s.

Tasty1
Thats the major disappointment with latinas when they say they love you, give great sex and they keep in touch, you get an email with a request for money. Time to move on.

HI Catire,


you are 100% CORRECT with your posting!!!!!!!!!!

be direct and frank to those kind of girls....do NOT let them threat you as a walking ATM cash machine..!!DO speak your mind.

As far as I know they could be doing that also with 9 other guys...if just one or two suckers send money...it is BINGO for them!!

If you are looking for a serious lifemate...and a girl make such comments:

MOVE ON to the next one!


Johan.

Just checked out sexycaracas.com.

Seems the lovely Adara is on vacation.

Some adds say Í speak English'

How well, if at all, would you suppose they speak it.

Do you find this quality of girl at Angeles/Morrisons?

I thought of trying Channel.

It seems the famous Pantera is still there?

On average, what sort of hour rate should I go up to?
Some of these girls are after stupid money?

I am still trying to get Rob Hay to go back!!

Travelman,

If you are interested I can maybe get you references from satisfied customers.

BTW, a big heads up: that site you mentioned (whose name I shall not repeat here out of respect to Mr Jackson and his fine, fine, site) has an english and a spanish section. There art two differences, apart from the language, of course: 1) Prices in the English section are in US Dollars and the equivalent of two or three times the prices in Venezuelan Bolivares in the spanish section. For example, a young lady quotes USD 1000 for an all nighter, but in the spanish section the price is 1 MM bolivares, or around US$400-500 depending on which exchange rate you use; 2) the spanish section has a forum where the local talent is evaluated.

Needless to say, THIS site, Mr Jackson's WSG, is far superior in layout, quality and organization to the other site where links are not sequential and only last for one or two days.

At any rate, the BIG heads up is to try to check out the local prices before you call and therefore only spend half as much.

BTW, I want to reinforce Catire's comment on being aware and cautious about sending local girls money. Not only could you be setting yourself up as a proverbial sucker, but you could also be setting yourself up as a potential kidnap victim aka the rich gringo jackpot. Once you come here, the girl has you take her out and then a couple of her big, bad male friends show up and shake you down. Literally and figuratively. Just a word of caution to all mongers visiting us in Latin America:
Be safe.
Be there
Be safe,
Be there
PS: another post will follow detailing some more local experiences

As promised:

Today I returned to an old haunt, an apartment operation very similar to those described by our Argentine brother-mongers such as those in Suipacha street. This is an apartment in Av, Francisco de Miranda in Chacao, next to the McDonald's and very safe, at least during the daytime. Easily reachable by taxi and only four blocks from the Chacao Metro Station. The building is named Andrea, ring buzzer No 28 and, once you enter, go to the 7th floor where the door is right across from the elevator. Upon entering you will probably be greeted by an old spanish lady that looks like a cast director's fantasy for the evil witch in Cinderella. Don't worry, she is actually quite kind, though you wouldn't know it from her looks. Typically, there will be between 3-5 girls there, ranging from some nice looking young girls, of the "looking for a decent job, but have to make money in the meantime" variety as well as some hardened, "racoon eyed" ( to use Rob's phrase) veterans of the P4P profession. The place is clean: it has two or three bedrooms, the one I have used has a full bathroom, a decent double bed and mirror and a fan. Sheets are clean and changed between clients, for me a MUST.

Today I went with one of the "veterans" - Michelle, as all the other girls were taken. She is in her early 30's, small, delicate build, nice breasts and not fat, which for me is another MUST. She has light brown skin, black eyes and hair and no cosmetic surgery. Price was Bs 50,000 (about USD 25) plus a Bs 10,000 tip, which I generally pay in advance to ensure the best attitude going in.

Today service was excellent. A full GFE. Plenty of DFK, BBJ, DATY to my heart's content, and a sensual massage on Junior and his twin friends. The highlight was one of the best, if not the best, BBJ that I have ever received. Apart from super stroking accompanying the excellent tongue work, she proceeded to put on a condom and inserted her finger into my asshole while stroking and sucking me! At first I felt squeamish, I mean, who is supposed to penetrate whom in this business? However I remembered from some other veteran's posts the technique of prostrate stimulation where the girl rubs your prostrate with one finger and literally pushes your cum out while sucking your tool with the other. After about 5 minutes of this, about 45 min into the session, I blew up in her face and literally sucked the sheets up my ass! (luckily my personal hygiene is up to snuff so I left no telltale tire tracks on the sheet) It took me a couple of minutes to get enough strength to get up and go to the bathroom to wash up, and stumbled out knobby knee'd.

Overall
Ambiance: 5
Looks: 6-7
Attitude: 8-9
Price to Value ratio: 10+

Perhaps this is not the cup of tea for you young horny, dollar laden stud mongers that want the Hollywood model treatment, but for an old, horny monger on a budget like me, it was well worth the time...and money.

That's all until next time! Special greetings to my friends, Catire, Rob Hay and Travelmen. Hope to see you around here soon.

Be safe

Be there

TravelMen,

Just checked out my sources and - lucky you - both Pantera and Chanell are still in business making mongers happy, very happy it seems.

Get your butt over here and check them out yourself. Pantera charges Bs 180,000 for 1.5 hr, or USD 90.

Chanell is Bs 250,000 or about USD 125 for 1.5 hrs.

Enjoy!

Be safe

Be there

Thanks Be There

Yes, I shall "Be There" soon.

Any heads up on the sexycaracas girls would be great.

I had read about the twin price system.
That puts you off a bit from the start.

Hence my Q, what should I pay up to?
I asume if they know that you know they will drop the price.

Pantera got a great review on this board, then another guy said she was badly dressed with a smell. Oh

I have had no emails back from any of them yet.

How good would the English speakers be, do you think.
Would not mind that Adara but she is on leave.

Thanks to Catire for answering my query on generic Viagra. Anyone have any updates on the p4p scene at Embassy Hotel or any of the other places on the aforementioned street. Price, selection, overall ambiance, safety issues?

Be there it would we may meet again sooner than you think. Travelman has been very sucessful convincing me to forget Medellin this month and just go straight to Caracas. I have given him all my English speaking local contacts and he is going through his own list of nonpros as well. I think that is the best way to go. Travelman if you do decide to use sexycaracas use only the 200,000/hr girls or some of the lower price girl may disappoint in terms of looks.

Hey guys,

I've got 10 days of relative freedom left. If you guys can make it, then we can go out and play.

Be safe,

Be there

[QUOTE=Rob Hay] Travelman if you do decide to use sexycaracas use only the 200,000/hr girls or some of the lower price girl may disappoint in terms of looks.[/QUOTE]

Are you implying that their photos make them better looking than they are?

you must be using the "chavista" exchange rate.

several blocks west of the Chacao Metro? the one with Avenida Libertador lying immediately below it???

I walked thru that McDonald's several times each day, en route to different places and lookie here... all this time there was a house of ill decency without a mere stone's throw of my domicilio.

:)

Yes, Catire, there was a house, well, actually an apartment, of ill repute right above your nose and you didn't smell it. Let this never happen again!

As to the Forex rate, I am using 2000 Bs/USD for 2 reasons, 1) it is a lot easier to divide Bs 180,000 by 2000 than by 2540 (today's b'market rate) and 2) a lot of our wannabee Caracas mongers may end up exchanging at this rate (or worse) at their hotel so their all in cost will look more like 2000 than 2500.

No, I am still an unrepentant escualido, but you have to adjust to the times.

Be safe, (I always look forward to your posts.)

Be there

Mongers, I went back to the "Next to McDonald's" apartment today. Actually just to validate my previous post. Same girl, same price. Even better service. She loved my "coming" back! Though not being so horny as last week I was able to evaluate her in a more objective manner. Her looks are really not my "Christie Brinkley" type, but she outdid herself in terms of effort, she really appreciated my return. Full hour of GFE, DATY till satiation, she had about three orgasms with Mr Tongue and said I was welcome to return as often as I wanted. To thank me she gave me a full BBJCIM and was willing to do the back route, freebie, which I had to refuse, not due to any dislike of that highway, which I believe is a great scenic route off the beaten path, but because my golf partners were waiting and would not understand my missing a tee time for any reason. At any rate, for budget minded old mongers, with a flexible "look" requirement, I confirm that this place is a reasonable alternative, somewhat like a Big Mac to a good Chateaubriand.

Now to answer some other monger's posts:

The Embassy Hotel is in a seedy and somewhat dangerous area, well known by yours truly, but not recommended to out of towners. AVOID. Please, do not go there alone. It is better to spend USD 10-20 more in a better part of town than to have to call your embassy - the real one - asking for help at 3AM! I have gone there for emergency service at midnight and, frankly, have left running through red lights and looking nervously at my rear view mirror. Gringos beware.

Attention: do not confuse the Embassy Hotel with the Embassy Suites Hotel, which I recommended in another post. It is sort of like confusing Paris, Texas, with the other one that has the Seine running through it and a somewhat famous metallic tower as a symbol.

As to the pictures and sexycaracas: Bait and switch was not invented here. I was with a lady - Barbie by name - whose photo showed her with about 20-30 lbs (10-15 kgs) less than in real life. Or current real life, at any rate. Go figure. If you get older and fatter and need to make a living, are you going to send up to date pix to a web site so no one calls you? Not a chance. Her service was superb, inspite of her not being the "10" lookalike anymore. (Bo Derek, forgive me.) She made every effort to please as she knew her looks alone would not justify your hanging around.

Also, be careful. A friend of mine just reported that once his desired internet girl arrived at the motel, everything other than conventional mish had a "value added tax" pasted. BJ, was extra, DFK was extra, practically his entire session was spent renegotiating rates and services. He said that he had a better time in our office than in bed! I said, "next time you stay in our office and I go to bed!" We'll see if he takes me up on this.

With that, I leave it to you. " The best LAID plans of mice and men gang aft agley" said the great poet Robert Burns and that is true for Scottish poets as well as international mongers. In strange places, familiarity may breed other feelings than contempt. Security, for one.

Once again, I sign off, as your curmudgeonly old fogie reminding you to...

Be safe, but

Be there

this actually doesn't surprise me since I had many older Venezolano acquaintances tell me that almost every building in CCS had an "estudio" on its premises. :) I'm just a little surprised that I had one so goddamn close to the domicilio. Probably a good thing since I would have been spending way too much time there. Shit. I wish I "were there" right now!

and don't be an unrepentant escualido. In today's environment, it's better to be a repentant one. ;)

Reinaldo,

Yes the pictures make alot of girls look way better than they actually are.

[QUOTE=Be There]:
The Embassy Hotel is in a seedy and somewhat dangerous area, well known by yours truly, but not recommended to out of towners. AVOID. Please, do not go there alone. It is better to spend USD 10-20 more in a better part of town than to have to call your embassy - the real one - asking for help at 3AM! I have gone there for emergency service at midnight and, frankly, have left running through red lights and looking nervously at my rear view mirror. Gringos beware.
[/QUOTE]

Be There

Thanks for your concern. I should have prefaced my query by mentioning that I was in the area 5 years ago and am an experienced monger having frequented local only hooker bars from Tijuana to Quito. Has it gotten more 'dangerous' since then? Besides the bar at the Embassy there was only one other American Bar on Calle de los Hoteles that had any talent. Is that still the case today? How about an update on price and selection?

Thanks

though it really depends on the helplesness and cluelessness of the gringo traveler involved. (for most people I would echo be there's advice)

However.

Calle de los Hoteles has undergone a fairly decent "cleanup" in the last couple of years. It is now better lit, some of the homeless and transients that wandered around have now been thrown out and the ever present drug trade made much less obvious.

The proprietors of the hotels became aware that for their own business interest, the area had to be made to feel "safer". And. in my opinion, it is. (though what constitutes 'safe' might differ from one person to another)
Many of the establishments have hired watchmen to stand outsisde, look around and these guy will also often walk many of the girls up the street to the new areperia on the corner or beyond where they can easily grab a taxi or take the metro once it opens at 5 am. The street, or better said, the 2 block stretch or so that's being talked about is also now better lit.

I can probably unequivocably say it's now "safer" than it was 5 years ago, though precaution must always be exercised.

there are 6 American bars on that street with varying degrees of "talent". though most guys probably won't be wowed.. ESPECIALLY when compared to what you see on the streets walking around during the day... personally I kind of like combing thru the coals to find a gem and it's happened more than once there but you'd better know some Spanish to play that game.

Your points are correct: the area is "relatively" safer than 5 yrs ago and for a veteran monger who speaks spanish, is savvy in latin country ways and means, it should be navegable. My point is simply that for the average tourist-monger, the area is not one that should be at the top of his list, especially if he is short in language skills and is not up to snuff on the local hazards.

My proposition: come on down and let's check this out together! We can write our next report under the byline: Be There, Catire!

A big abrazo! Like I always say,

Be safe,

Be there

with "hot" details!!!

Vini.
Vidi.
Vici.

To paraphrase Julius Ceasar, "Vidi, Vici, Vini " - I saw, I conquered, I came... for those who do not speak the noble latin. This obviously does not apply to the "fair Catire" for he who titles his contribution with that erudite evocation is obviously a wise and learned man.

Last night, in order to put an end to the discussion of whether the "red light hotel zone" is safe, I proposed to investigate first hand in order to appraise myself of the situation and better inform my fellow mongers, especially those like Catire that I am sure saving up their kopeks for a return to Caracas mongerland. I had set up a goal of going to the oft discussed Embassy Hotel and ascertaining the safety of its environs.

Sad to say, I failed and did not get there, but I did get close.Everest shall be for tomorrow, or maybe tonight.

Believe me, this reporter would have accomplished said special assignment had some very specific circumstances not intervened.

I first cruised the area around 10PM on thursday night. The area seemed to me no better and no worse lit that on previous occasions. I did notice more private guards such as parking attendants, security people etc in front of various of the hotels on that street. There were relatively few people out, but this could be a product of the terrible rainstorms that Caracas has been receiving this week which has made streets impassable and people reluctant to venture outside for all but the most important of reasons. Perhaps sex is such to only a few of us....

At any rate, your reporter also cruised the Av Fco Solano. In front of the Centro Comercial El Recreo, next door to the Melia Hotel, there was a large group of people - some waiting for the bus, others just hanging out, but, clearly to this sharp eyed veteran of the local scene, at least half a dozen ladies of the night with their characteristic tight tank tops (or t-cubes as some loyal clients call them) and/or their hot pants or miniskirts. A couple of these were deemed "doable" by this cub reporter had he not been on this special assignment. One of the ones that caught my attention was a very fair, well dressed and light skinned girl, standing under the proverbial streetlamp and throwing out those well known "come hither" looks that showed she was not among those merely waiting for public transportation. Alas, her extreme slenderness and something in her look made me wonder whether she was not already riding something other than Caracas' Metrobuses.

True to my mission, I drove around the area for a few minutes, circling around and trying to get a good feel for the safety of the zone should our esteemed international visitors decide to come and savor the local delights. I was on my third trip around, having decided that this time I would stop at the Embassy Hotel and get a close, first hand look at the bar and its female population, when I passed half a block south of Hotel El Colegio - "The School Hotel" and noticed this time around about half a dozen dyed-blonde, plastic-booted, miniskirted and tank-topped ladies in front of the door of this establishment. Believing that there might be a story here, I stepped on the brakes, put on reverse, turned around and parked on the other side of the street from the hotel. As I walked up to the group and asked one of the ladies what happened, I was informed that the hotel bar's bouncer had ejected a couple of the ladies for not wanting to contribute to the Bar's general hospitality fund after procuring a couple of well paying clients. This had created a ruckus and, in solidarity, the ladies had ganged up on the bouncer trying to impose a little bit more respect for their dues paying union members. As luck would have it, one of the ladies was young Naitinia, around 22, 5'4" beautiful 34 D's hand tailored by a very experienced surgeon - who must have also done her perfectly turned up pert nose in the same session, light brown skin, and Dolly Parton blonde hair. Naitinia was gracious enough to explain what had been happening and when I asked whether this happened often, she said that no, most girls pay up and stay out of trouble. I made the comment that "why do you get in trouble" to which she proceeded to pull down her tank top and let me see those beautiful free standing, non drooping gorgeous well formed breasts. At this, your cub reporter forgot his mission, his training and asked her for the commercial terms appropriate for the occassion. Bs 60 thousand was mentioned for an hour, hotel and rubbers extra. Seeing how volunteer reporting does not pay much, your reporter countered with 50 thousand which was quickly accepted, but she said, take me to another hotel, this one is lousy and doesn't even have running water.

Naitinia led me to another hotel on a side street - conscious of my reportorial duties I asked which streets were safe to which she replied that the one which Hotel Colegio was on was one of the most dangerous! This other one, Hotel Sil, was in a safer side street. She also mentioned that a few all night clients had awakened only to find their cars vandalized or missing in some of the area hotels.

Luckily Hotel Sil, a clean but pedestrian operation, had an allnight porter watching the cars and I parked feeling that I could go on with my new mission - exploring Naitinia's curves and valleys - without worrying about my car or personal safety. For a hotel of around Bs 25 thousand, around USD 10-12, I felt that I was getting my money's worth.

Without doubt Naitinia has one of the best bodies that I have ever encountered in a pay or free for play companion. Her breasts were spectacular, her belly and thighs very tight, her ass small, round and perfect. After undressing she proceeded to give me a wonderful BBJ going around and around the top all the while stroking my balls and ass. As I was tired, I proceeded to lay down and let her do the work until after about 30 minutes of mutual stroking, sucking and cuddling I put her on all fours and penetrated what was a remarkably - given its assumed mileage - tight pussy. She started to moan and grab the sheets as she rotated her pelvis around my member and after a few minutes, Mr Junior decided to give it up and show his appreciation by pumping a good deal of hot stuff into the bright blue condom.

Afterwards, we cleaned up in the bathroom and she took special care of making sure that Mr Junior was spic and span for his ride home. We got in the car and I tipped the watchman to make sure that should there be a next time, my car would be as well taken care of.

So there you have it, dear readers. No indepth review of the Hotel Embassy, but another "In depth" exploration. My conclusions are that the area at early parts of the evening is relatively safe if you are a local and know your way around, but still, if you are from out of town, the area is probably a bit on the rough side to venture out alone.

As I always say,
Be safe, but
Be there

I was looking forward to reading your report. What happened?

Take care

Rob,

I will be headed to Caracas in less than two weeks. The plan is to hook up with my model friend and see where that takes me. If that doesn't work out, It's on to plan 2. Find another model! PM me if you are going to be around or have any contact info I can use. I will be happy to forward any info obtained on my return.

Dogus

[QUOTE=Rob Hay]Travelman is pitching me to go back to Caracas, and he is succeeding! But then again with all the hotties down in Caracas it's not exactly a hard pitch. I'm pretty tempted, just telling him about it is getting me pumped up all over again!

I just might be joining him next month if work allows it. Maybe right after the elections if I can decide on which knucklehead to vote for.[/QUOTE]

A TV travel program mentioned this group of islands as a fantastic vacation spot. Anyone have comments or recommendations on this regarding bringing a chica for a weeks relaxation.
Thanks

[quote=nyc expat]a tv travel program mentioned this group of islands as a fantastic vacation spot. anyone have comments or recommendations on this regarding bringing a chica for a weeks relaxation.
thanks[/quote]


most travel packages to los roques from caracas are for a weekend, or long weekend, and in dollar terms quite inexpensive. i'm sure you can get something for a week but it you'll have to ask/dig around.. btw. you might get bored if it's a week.

most venezolanas would [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url] in their pants at such an invitation, but i would suggest bringing a girl you genuinely like/get along with as a companion rather than some run of the mill rent a ho.

the first time i went to caracas was in late september and its been on my mind ever since so i had to go back. last time business..... this time all pleasure.
caracas is slowly becoming my favorite place in the world.

day 1
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i arrived nov 4th thursday and stayed at the tamanaco again. a couple days before i go i call playboy caracas agency to see if samatha is available, she is by far the best looking girl. she is supposedly on vacation her in ny, so i ask if fabiana( who i saw in sept) and dedee are available. i am told they were and the made plans to call them when i am in town. but the day before i go i look on their website and see that the pimped raised the prices $15usd each per hour on fabiana and dedee. he has about 20 girls in this agency and he raised the price on just the 2 girls i ask about. feeling agitated and cheated even before using their services i decided to use rival [url]www.jardinerotico.com[/url] for my first night. there are 2 vip girls listed. i make an appointment to see antonella and but by the time i arrived i find out that shes not available but the other vip vivian is. when she arrived my jaw just dropped. she was fat!!! i mean fat just about everywhere and just totally unfuckable. i kindly give her 30,000bol for cab fare and told her i am in a rush to get going.
listen, if she is a vip girl than the rest of the agency is in deep trouble. i strongly recommend not calling this agency.

i was suppose to meet a fellow monger and a few venezuelan girls from latinamor at belle epoque but by now and i just way too horny and head to angelus.

i have a rather low opinion of this place and i remember seeing a lack of quality the last time i was there. personally i like a girl to have a young baby face and in this place you see alot of hard hard faces. the girls i ended up hooking up with was one of the cutest girls i have seen in my life. 20 years old 5,7 around 110pound and absoulte angelic baby face and big beautiful eyes. she was very skinny but unfortuately she had no tits or ass. but she certainly made up for it with her oral skill. she was the most enthusiastic pro i have ever been with in this type of a bordello enviornment. after we finished she tore off the condom and sucked me clean. we sat around and talked and drank awhile and then she we down on me again. she took my hand and guided me to finger her, hey even bordello *****s get into it too sometimes.

she got really really nasty too. slapping my dick on her tongue and the side of her face. tonguing the peehole as she is sucking, which is absoute extasy in my book. and staring at me with those big eyes the whole time i mean there was nothing off limits with her. the fact that she had such young, innocent, angel face and got so nasty was such a huge turn on i had to nut in her mouth even though she told me not to. i really wish i had taken a picture because this image is imbedded in my mind, but obviously i wasnt doing too much thinking.

we talked about smoking some weed next time i come. she said she love to get high before she had sex and promised if i came back on friday we could get high in the back room together. sadly enough though i didnt see her the rest of the trip. what a shame.

Day 2

Started out very late as i woke up around 2. I head straigt to Valle Arriba Athletic Center for a little workout and some cooling off in the spa. If you want eye candy this is the place! Even the girls working here are really hot. I would end up banging one of the girls working out that day on Sunday night, which was my last day in Caracas. ALso in September I met some guy that i hung out with and hooked me up in the social scene in Caracas. ALl in all this a great place to make social or business contacts even if you not into working out.

I went back to the hotel and called up just some girls on Sexycaracas.com. Jade is the deal with Jade. SHe never answers her phone and never return calls. Well I only got through to Sabrina, who I saw in September and besides the fact she girls great head i wasnt too eager to see because the last time time I remember she had those terrible "Lady of the Night Eyes" and my initial impression was that she had too much attitude because we broke the ice.

Well this time I was pleasantly surprised when i met her in the lobby. She looked like she got healthy dose of sleep and/or treatment on those eyes and maybe because she already knows me she was really cool right from the start. In my report September i posted body pics so this time I'll post some face pics(see above). She was a pretty decent bang but her forte is her oral skills.

Afterwards we go to the Sambil together, she to meet her friend Amber Waves of sexycaracas and me just to do some people watching.

That night i meet monger Travelmen and a Venezuelan buddy. We meet up in San Ignacio, have a few drinks in the suka bar and then head to Club Vintage. They doorgirl seems to remember me from last time. I highly recommend this place above most other club/bars in Caracas to pick up girls. The music is very good, the velvet rope is very strict in allowing only good looking girls in and they make sure gringos dont have to stand in line, and there is always a long line.


We approach every trio of girls in the place to light to moderate success. Travelmen looked pretty much like he hooked up for the night so that when me and the Venezuelan friend start approaching pairs of single girls in the place. Well we ran into the right girls at the right time, it just so happens one of the girls remembered seeing me at Valle Arriba that day. After a few drinks and dances later the pair of us and Travelmen go next door to Loft and buy a bottle of champagne. Bottle service is upstair section of the place where they open the retractable roof and you have an city view. I make out with my girl and follow with some heavy petting. I mean if you can't hook up with a girl in this situation you need theorpy. Well the Venezuelan buddy of ours was total deadweight had very weak game. He keep begging his girl for a kiss. Travelmen saw where this was going excused himself and left for Angelus. I would've ditched this guy for good but I needed him to set up another date with my girl. So my night ended up in good ole Angelus.....again.

Sabrina 1 this is from my picture phone so bad quality

Day 3 started really really late in the day and I felt like total crap. I have made about 10 or so contacts from [url]www.latinamor.com[/url] and i figured Saturday seemed like a good day to do the meet and greet. I had my Venezuelan friend meet and eliminate 2 of the girls the prior weekend. He said too conservative and too religious respectively. So i contact a few of the girls and make arrangements to meet up VIntage at night. One girl screename "Leonor_A_M" told me she went the night before but got got turned away at the door. This should have told me something right there.

As I posted last time i suggust that people buy a Venezuelan digitel sim card for their triband phones as hotels totally rip you off with calls prices.

Later I go to the Sambil to eat,bs and end up running into some chicks and a guy whose birthday party i went to on my last trip. Caracas is way too small of a social scene to date various girls at the same time. This is a place you keep running into the same people over and over again. Here in New York City I haven't seen some people in my building in a couple of years.

The good thing in running into this Venezuelan guy is that I finally could make an appointment with sexycaracas girl Vanessa who spoke 0 ingles. 22 years old 36dd and great movement below the waist.

Sunday
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First lunch with the girl from Vintage on Friday, another one of her friends, Travelmen and Venezuelan Daniel at the Tamanco, which has the best sunday brunch ever so if you are ever in town you must go!!!!

Daniel failed to close the deal Friday on his girls so this time the one I hooked up with brought another girl for him, who he promptly bored as well. I get mixed signals but after some wining, dining and promising her that i will be back in Caracas again, she spends the night and I finally banged a non pro. In summary as i said last time this is a great place to meet non pros especially in Loft or Vintage in San Ignacio, as you will see and meet some of the hottest girls in the country. The rumour was the Venezuelans are stuck up, which I can subjectively deny. In fact i found them quite friendly. I have maintained for some time that the non pro scene here is as good as it gets just stickly due to the beauty of the women coupled with the low costs of living and first world conviences as well, provided you have the time.

The pros i meet are always a notch below the hotties in San Ignacio in terms of physical appearance. But I was a pleasantly surprised with the performance of the batch i had this time. So i am slowly warming the the pro scene in Caracas as well.

I dont post much but when i do i try to write everything while its still fresh in my head. Hope this is helpful

Well my friends, I used a lot of the advice you gave here. I will be writing in more detail more info about my experiences here, but here are the general stats:

3 no pro (1 from amigo.com, 1 from MSN Profiles, 1 from Yahoo profiles)

5 pro (19-24, 30000BS to 70000BS)

2 contacts thru passion.com that did not work out (Girl never show up)

1 contact from MSN profile that did not work out. (Girl never show up)

1 contact at the mall (Tolon) got positive during chat, but could not get away on the weekend from her parentes (She was 22)

15 pre-positive contact thru amigo/yahoo/msn that did not work out

I stayed at the Hotel Paseo las Mercedes which is right in the Paseo las mercedes mall and 2 blocks away from the Tolon (Malll) Very VERY safe location, I walked at night (Many security guards everywhere) from the Tolon to my hotel and not problem. Great movies, restaurants and disco all around here. Not as good as St Ignacio but good enough.

About being fit, I am a little overweight and still was able to score, which I think is more in how u approach the girl than anything else.

The best contact to have in here is Reinaldo Garcia my driver. He does also speaks English (Limited). He knows everywhere here and got me a cell (Rental), took me shopping, tourist, disco and others. ;-)
He just got a website [url]www.venezueladriver.com[/url] (Dont know if it is up yet).
He pick me up from the airport and was my friend in this strange but beautiful land.

More detail next week when I am back to the states. I leave tomorrow (Sunday)

Cheers,

PVC

The current Consular Information Sheet warns against hailing taxis on the street. Are things as bad as they picture them?

"Incidents of taxi drivers in Caracas overcharging, robbing and injuring passengers are common. Travelers should take care to use radio-dispatched taxis or those from reputable hotels."

[QUOTE=Reinaldo]The current Consular Information Sheet warns against hailing taxis on the street. Are things as bad as they picture them?

"Incidents of taxi drivers in Caracas overcharging, robbing and injuring passengers are common. Travelers should take care to use radio-dispatched taxis or those from reputable hotels."[/QUOTE]

Any taxis in front of "reputable hotels" charge double, plus so you're already ahead on the "overcharging" part. Since all fares are negotiables, as a gringo they'll try to overcharge you anyways.

Taxistas in the eastern part of town (which is where you'll be staying) are generally a pretty safe lot.

In the end, I suppose it all depends.. If you look like some clueless gringo businessman geek, then you'll be a target, no matter where you are and where you go.

If you know how to dress "down", have street smarts and have at least some handle on the language.. then your odds are different.

I'd say generally speaking "consular advice" is for the clueless (which generally applies to most Americans).

Yo! Rastaman, the closest and good hotels to San Ignacio Shopping Center are: 1) Altamira Suites, about 6 - 8 blocks away on the same avenue, it has suites w/ kitchennetes and a great restaurant, 2) Embassy Suites, about a quarter mile away on Av Francisco Miranda, an excellent Embassy Suites product, and 3) Hotel Centro Lido, across the street from Embassy Suites, a five star hotel with excellent restaurants in a major office and shopping center. There are two local hotels, Hotel El Cid which is a 2 star local place and Hotel Penthouse, a high rotation pay by the hour joint a couple of blocks from the San Ignacio, but, unless you really want to "go native" I would recommend the first three. There is also the Hotel Cumberland Chacao about a half mile from San Ignacio which is better than El Cid, though in the same category. Read Rob's posts which are very illustrating.

Be safe,

Be there

I walked into the Embassy Suites hotel in El Rosal, because I wanted to check whether they had a bar/restaurant with Direct TV because I wanted to watch some American football. (answer was no)

anyways... I remember on the way out of the lobby, I saw a sign for the hotel guests which gave out taxi fares and at the bottom said (in Spanish)

"please use our taxis for your safety" and something else which sounded ridiculous (I wish I could remember the EXACT line, it was hilarious)

but then I saw their fare to the Sambil shopping center.

almost 5000 bolivares.

Now, keep in mind this was at the time when the rate of the exchange was still around 700 to 1.

Also keep in mind this is probably the safest part of the city. You could walk it even during the night.

I also happened to know that Sambil was precisely about 4 blocks, maybe 5 east of this hotel along Libertador.

So they wanted 7 dollars for half a mile or less. I started laughing so hard that the doormen gave me a funny look as I was leaving.

Going most of the places in east Caracas should never cost you more than 4000 bolivares, and that's for distances of a couple of miles. etc. One should know that minimum fare tends to be around 3000.

[QUOTE=Catire]Going most of the places in east Caracas should never cost you more than 4000 bolivares, and that's for distances of a couple of miles. etc. One should know that minimum fare tends to be around 3000.[/QUOTE]Mil gracias for the info.

[QUOTE=Be There] There are two local hotels, Hotel El Cid which is a 2 star local place and Hotel Penthouse, a high rotation pay by the hour joint a couple of blocks from the San Ignacio, but, unless you really want to "go native" I would recommend the first three.

Be there[/QUOTE]For those of us interested in going native would you mind providing a street address if you have one?

Thanks

Name: Hotel El Cid Caracas
State: Distrito Federal
Category: Hotel
Telephone: 0212-2632611 / 2631715 / 2630691
Fax:
City: Caracas
Address: Av.San Felipe; entre 1 ra. Y 2da. Transversal; La Castellana
Price listed at USD 35 - 45 /night

Hotel Shelter Suites Final Avenida Libertador, con Calle José Félix Sosa, Chacao, Caracas, Miranda, 1060
In front of Sambil shopping center - excellent restaurant
Phone: 0212/265-3860
Fax: 0212/265-7861

I found this last hotel had user reviews on fodors.com that you may find interesting. Shelter suites has hot tubs in many rooms. I wonder what for? :-)


Be safe,
Be there

[QUOTE=Be There]Name: Hotel El Cid Caracas
State: Distrito Federal
Category: Hotel
Telephone: 0212-2632611 / 2631715 / 2630691
Fax:
City: Caracas
Address: Av.San Felipe; entre 1 ra. Y 2da. Transversal; La Castellana
Price listed at USD 35 - 45 /night
Be safe,
Be there[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info. I called them and they quoted 88,000 weekends and 122,000 during the week.

I stayed in this hotel for 8 days. Here is the web site [url]http://www.hotelpaseolasmercedes.com/[/url]
The rooms were ok, a 3 or 4 stars room. A/C worked wonderful. TV Cable was fair, if you know spanish. No english channels and 1/4 of the channels the receiption was bad. Otherwise a good hotel.

Very safe, it is inside the mall, which give u double security (Mall and hotel security). It has 2 inside restaraunts plus a small bar. Internet not in the room (even so they tell you they have it in the room, what they mean is that you can connect your laptop to the extra jack, but you have to provide the internet service). They do have internet in the business center. It is relative fast if no one is using it. I used vonage.com softphone to chat back home.

Very friendly to visitors, but I always pay for double occupancy that way there is no trouble if you get visitors and I tell them when I checking in that my room mate is coming later. Now if you are encountered your date (not for pay) you can outside the hotel, right in the mall where there are bars and restaurantes. Also they have a movie theater and theather and a disco(but never went to it). I did go to the movie theather, it was nice.

Another thing is that to go to the restaurant in the hotel u take the same elevator that you take to go to the rooms, so it is a easy way to get ur date thru the lobby without anyone thinking anything else.

Once in the restaurant level after your dinner/lunch you can always asked to go to your room to pickup something you forgot, it is a very inocent way to go upstairs. ;)

Now when u order P2P service, the lady can announce herself in the lobby and they call u on the phone to let her in. They will register her and send her up. No more questions asked. A friend told me that because I was paying for double occupancy they wont ask me to pay extra.

The hotel is 3 blocks from the Tolon another nice shopping center, with movies and great place to eat and meet regular girls.

I will talk about that more in my next one.

PVC

PS: I payed US 86 per night which included breakfast for 2. ;)

Hi everybody

I will be in Caracas next week and would like to know some info of the hotel.

Anyone try the Hotel Altamira Suites before?

Are they chica friendly?

Thanks,

Mark

Welcome to Caracas, Mr M. SOS: Yes the Altamira Suites is very girl friendly as you are renting an apt type suite... It is also very well located. You might want to PM Prazer who was just there last month. For more CCS info, read the posts in this section, you'll get more mileage that way out of your trip.
Be safe
Be there

I will be Caracas this week to seek out new adventures. Anyone have any last minute tibits I should know about such as clubs or studios ?
Will post in detail when I get back.

thanks
Starfe

"Anyone have any last minute tibits I should know about such as clubs or studios ? "

I don't have any direct experience with them but a recent visitor was more than satisfied with their service. He said prices range from 30 to 50 thousand bolivares for an hour.

I went down to CCS last week on a lightning business trip with my trusted travel colleague Domingo Gringo. We didn't have a lot of time to monger, but here are the highlights.

Caracas in General - The best thing there was Reinaldo Garcia, my driver, he was superb. He took care of my transportation needs. He is a reliable individual, a rarity in Caracas. I highly recommend him. He even has a website at venezueladriver.com or 58-414-317-6569.

Massage Studios - I had some time in the early afternoon and went to Estudio Masalud. I was charged 150,000 or $60. If you are going to exchange more than $500 you can get 3,000 B's to the dollar. Back to the studio, there I was serviced by a girl called Angie. She is a stunner. She is a perfect barbie doll. She gave me a great massage followed by some very energetic and revitalizing sex. I can't say enough about her. The amazing thing is that there are about a dozen girls of similar quality. I can also recommend the Cuerpo Mente y Alma studio.

Strip Clubs - Went to Saxon's and it is probably the best place to hang out in the city. Beautiful babes dancing every hour in several stages. The girls are more aggressive now asking for drinks, but politely wave them off saying you came to watch the show. Angelo's required a cover charge of 150,000 B's a rip off, so we didn't go in. Instead, we went to another club located in the same parking lot on the way out. The place was small, but had nice looking girls ramging from 5 to 8.

Security - Be careful in Caracas. Don't go out by yourself. Follow standard security protocols and be aware of your environment.

Nice places to hang out are the "San Ignacio" mall. A beautiful mall full of restaurants and shoppes where you can people watch. The "Sambil" mall is a cool mall to shop and people watch. Good place for non-pro if you have a couple of days.

You can find good deals off the eluniversal.com classifieds if you are willing to make some calls and can speak spanish, otherwise sexycaracas.com and 800chicas.com are good bets.

Monger On.

Pajama Sam writes "If you are going to exchange more than $500 you can get 3,000 B's to the dollar."

Did someone actually make you a firm offer?

You need to ask around. You can actually get ok pricing at the airport, 2,500+ or ask around in the city. I had a firm offer from a lady outside the Masalud studio.
Check with Reinaldo from venezueladriver.com also.

Monger on!

Thanks to Pajama Sam for his comments, others have voiced good comments abt those studios. As to the exchange rate, I have questions about their reality. The exchange rate here has been hovering between 2400 -2500 Bs/USD for a week now. 3000 is out of the question. Caveat Emptor
Be safe,
Be there

Pajama Sam writes "Angelo's required a cover charge of 150,000 B's a rip off, "

Angelus has been described here as an expensive club but never any mention of a 150 thousand B cover charge. I'm sorry to come across as a Doubting Thomas but could this have been rather their consumo minimo?

was there last night . no cover charge at all. drinks were about $8.
possibly 100 girls or more, i lost count at 75 .
club fantasy also has no cover but is much smaller in size but better in quality.
by the way the marriott hotel is fantastic. ( $99 a night ) i love a great hotel and this is 5 star all the way. separate shower and tub, all marble. free computer high speed. very comfortable beds. very girl friendly and like the loisuites they are busy booking my afternoon sessions ( 3 per day ). its become a challenge for some at the front desk to get my appt's made asap. real busy beavers. i love that. the taxi system is a little fucked up here. prices all over the map.
food is very resonable and very good. 48 hours and i have still not been mugged. tonight i plan to paste a 100 dollar on my back and see if i get robbed.

[url]http://www.cuerpomenteyalma.com/personal.htm[/url]
at this massage house i was doing doubles at about 145,000 for 90 minute.
i did back to back session. you could not help yourself.
there were 10 girls here. anything goes at this place.


god if i only spoke a little spanish the world would by my oyster.

Like STARFE said ... I've been to Angelus a zillion times ... actually I've become good friends with a few of the waiters ...

Never a cover charge ... just high price service with chicas ... good place to get phone numbers though ... I've dated several chicas from there.

Starfe ... I've never been to Club Fantasy ... what's the cost of servicio there? And you said the quality was better than Angelus ... that's good.

By the way .. as you guys prob know Saxos and Angelus are owned by the same guy ... prices are the same in each place.

[QUOTE=Pajama Sam]...If you are going to exchange more than $500 you can get 3,000 B's to the dollar.[/QUOTE]Note: An exchange rate of 3,000 Bolivares per US$1 is unheard of. The going rate over at least the last 3 months in the "mercado libre" has consistently been between 2,450 and 2,600 Bolivares per US$1. This price fluctuates daily within this range and will depend on who you can get to do a currency exchange for you. I have had success changing currency with an owner of a travel agency here in Caracas. Remember that ripoffs are definitely possible when exchanging currency, so be careful and make sure to do it with someone with verifiable credentials (such as a business owner).

Ricker,

Drinks were cheaper then Angelos. The place is 1/8 the size. I would say there were more girls I would take out. $100 was the price I was quoted. Thats the price that I am quoted round the world. I had to pass since I have been booking sexycaracas girls at 1 am and 3 am each night I am here. So I only go to the clubs from 11:00 to 12:30 to work up my energy for my night sessions.

Sorry I could not be of any more help regarding the clubs but with the massage places and escorts I have been fully booked.

For me it takes time to know how to work the clubs especially here. I'm a bit slow as you can see.
What makes this town interesting is the 5 hour flight and very fast customs. I have never seen anything so easy, but what do I know. By my second trip I will have the lay of the land down a bit better. I love the guys who go to 1 city 1 time and have it all figured out in 3 days. I was never blessed with that gift.

Ricker, thanks for you're help.

Starfe

that perhaps it was somewhat crowded.. or perhaps the staff was trying to take advantage of you in terms of telling you "you can only come in if you buy a "servicio", meaning you buy a bottle of alcohol for the table..

that would be at least 80K or more depending on what alcohol you were buying.

There is absolutely no "cover fee" at any of these places in Caracas. If someone told you this, it was a lie.

Nice catch on the small "American Bar" in the same building. You can sometimes stumble across some very nice girls there at one half the Angelus price and the atmosphere it much more laid back. I personally hate Angelus with a passion. Saxo's and Magnifique are much better though both suffer from the same "clip joint" mentality.

a $99 rate at the Marriot is fantastic. A couple of years ago, the stupid gringo rate was $140, while Venezuelan businessmen were paying $108.

Nonetheless, as much as I love the hotel and its location, I'd only stay there if someone ELSE were picking up the tab or unless I won a very very very large lottery.

starfe, yes $100 tends to be "the gringo price" the world over.. (even in places where actual prices are a fifth to a third of that amount in local currency)

bottom line in Caracas, is that considering that the dollar is worth 2500bolos more or less, you should almost never pay more than fifty. Fifty bucks is the very upper end of what most girls themselves will charge.. and the establishment tries to hit you up for the other fifty.

If I lived by you're rules I would never eat out let alone get laid. Probably sleep under a bridge. Oh and by the way I spent 45,000 on some cockroach eating shellfish the other night. If you weighed 287 lbs, were only 5'4" you would have to pay those prices also. Although some women find me a real catch if they can only lift me on to the bed. You should try sometime hopping on to a massage table with a waist size 54 or even better, try lifting you're feet up!!!

What damage can I do to my wallet tonight????

Starfe ... thanks for the info ...

by the way, guys that say they have a city figured out in 3 short days are dreaming. Especially a place as diverse as Caracas ... definitely takes a few trips at least to make connections and get things figured out.

Some guys might just think they have it figured out.

Have fun ...

I'm planning a trip in S.America and i'm comparating Venezuela / Brazil.
Can someone help me about cost of drink/food in Caracas (restaruant - pub - club)??
Thanks

Checked out both places Thursday night at 2AM. Fantasy had about a dozen girls, none above a 5 and I am engaging in Buchanan induced generosity. There were a few girls hanging out with a few drunk and bored looking guys and a girl was dancing in the back. Nothing to write home about so I left and went to Angelus down the same basement. The situation there was different, but the same. It was packed with over 100 clients and probably 50+ girls. Although it was full and I walked it from end to end a few times, I did not find a single girl that I would consider attractive. Most were very ugly, fat or skinny. Perhaps it was the hour and the most attractive girls had already been taken out, but I certainly found it disappointing.

A note: no cover or entry charge at either place, although I have to mention that as a local I know how to get along with the doormen and bouncers. Better luck next time!

Be safe,
Be there

Just to let my fellow mongers know that jewels are found by those that seek them.

Last week, searching the El Universal newspaper I found an ad from a mature 40 something lady offering her services. I called and was quoted a very reasonable price and only a couple of blocks from my office. Around 5PM I pulled up to the building, a fine upper middle class building in a prosperous section of Caracas, rang the prescribed intercom button and was let in. Waiting in a nice hallway with an enclosed garden I thought "by her voice, she must be chubby and short." ( I must mention that I have become somewhat of a Dr Higgins (as in My Fair Lady) expert at trying to link people's voices with their physionomy). I prepared myself for a round of wrestling with Humpty Dumpty as I never, ever, return the goods being too sensitive for the other side's feelings to put down a sincere service provider offer. Sure enough, a mid 40 year old, 5'2" lady came down with a big smile, but not much else to appeal to my senses. She took me upstairs to a 2nd floor apartment and, lo and behold, two scrumptuous 20 year olds were waiting for me! For only Bs 100K I could have had them both, but Scrooge like, I opted for a Bs 60K or USD 30 session with one of them. Delicious! Service was excellent, true GFE, full DATY, multipositions, BBBJ - not only by the 20 year old,but the madam came in during the session (she knocked beforehand) and gave me a taste of her talents as well! The young one was beautiful, skinny, pert boobs, tight pussy, very friendly and wanting to please. I actually showed her how to improve her oral skills and showed her my own highly developed talents in that area. Highly recommended for you budget mongers. PM and I shall send details and contact. Stay tuned for repeat performances.
Be safe,
Be there

Hola Be there,

For some reason i cannot pm you, can you pm me. I would like the info on this apartment. It sounds like a good deal. I will be in caracas most of january. Then i go to BA at the end of the month for 2 weeks. Maybe we can hook up.

Hobbyinhouston

I was in Caracas most of the month of Feb. ... I spent a lot of time exploring during the day ... sure are loads of beautiful women in this city!

Everywhere you go ... beautiful and sexy!

Anyway, I snapped a few fotos of Sambil Mall and el Recreo (another mall) and a sampling of chicas out and about ... I'll have to post them when I get back to the US.

Angelus ... even though some on this board don't like it ... is still great.
Sure, it's not great for paying high fees for chicas' services but it's absolutely fantastic for browsing and making contacts for dates / rendevous, etc, etc. ... I really dig the place. I've made many friends there ... with both chicas and the working staff (guys).

Facts about Angelus ... cost nothing to get in.
To buy a drink for a chica runs 15000 Bol (about $6) ... the chicas gets 5000 of that ... that's how most earn the majority of their pay.
Full service ... in or out of the club runs about $100-150 US total ... the club fee is the same whether you stay in or take the chica out ... about $50.
The rest is up to you with your negotiating / charm, etc.
PS ... I was told by one of my buddies that works there that some gringos (not so smart ones) have paid up to $500 for all night with a top notch chica ... incredible.

I always sit and get to know a chica ... buy her a couple drinks, me a couple (guys drinks run about 5000 each) ... maybe get a private dance upstairs (15000 bol) to check her out. Then meet outside the place.
It's fun ... and yes, I's say about 50 % of the chicas are not my type at all ... 25 % run in the 7-8 range ... and depends on the night, but about 10-25 % of the chicas are stunning (9-10 range).

Best time to show up ... about 1030 pm or so ... after about 2 to 3 am some have gone home already ... some have left with dudes ...

The daytime massage places are great too ... check out the sexy caracas web site for pictures and locations.
Great places for service and to meet chicas too. I've met several of these chicas too for outside fun.
Remeber these daytime places close at about 7-8 pm so you can easily meet up later for the evening ... and they're closed on Sundays.

Overall ... be carefull in Caracas ... lots of petty street crime ... just check six and dress down ... but great fun -- great people !!

Now ... off to Maracaibo!

Suerte!

[QUOTE=Ricker]

To buy a drink for a chica runs 15000 Bol (about $6) ... the chicas gets 5000 of that ... that's how most earn the majority of their pay.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info about drink prices.

The spanish language forum has been hacked. They are a good source of info about the Caracas escort scene but they don't back up their site so they lost many informative posts.

Here's a few random fotos of Caracas.

The first is a shot of el Recreo shopping mall and a few chicas about.

[QUOTE=Be There]
The Embassy Hotel is in a seedy and somewhat dangerous area, well known by yours truly, but not recommended to out of towners. AVOID. Please, do not go there alone. It is better to spend USD 10-20 more in a better part of town than to have to call your embassy - the real one - asking for help at 3AM! I have gone there for emergency service at midnight and, frankly, have left running through red lights and looking nervously at my rear view mirror. Gringos beware.
[/QUOTE]

When I stayed at the lovely Embassy Hotel on Las Acacias, I took a stroll in the late afternoon through the neighborhood, and saw a few people hanging out on the street curbs or in doorways, sharpening knives, and either glowering at me or checking me out as a potential future crime victim. The men were even scarier looking.

Hello Board,

My "creds" are in central and caribbean Latin America (been to Colombia also though) trying to put together first trip to your pais paraiso!

I have a great price thru a contact for the Caracas Hilton - can't find any mention of it after rtfb. Looks nice - is it guest friendly? I must tell you I've had luck "leaning" on the staff in other countries at hotels that claim they didn't accept guests. Says it caters to businessmen - but on a 10 scale how much "noise" am I going to get bringing in chicas (dressed neatly)?

Also after rtfb it seems to me that this city should keep me occupied for 7 days?, 9 days? What length trip is not too long? Should I "side trip" to Isla Margarita or is CCS a solid one stop shopping destination? Any walking places worth checking out near the Hilton?

Thanks in advance - p.s. Ricker I enjoy your stuff, and your info. I think I might have thrown you something on [Curacao?] in the past any info you can add on CCS is much appreciated.

Cheers mates,
FORD

It's a bad part of town. If you are looking for a brand name check better at the Marriott.

If you are looking for price/location Hotel Paseo Las Mercedes is a good choice.


Then look at the girls in sexycaracas.com.

[QUOTE=Gringo Mojado]It's a bad part of town. If you are looking for a brand name check better at the Marriott.

If you are looking for price/location Hotel Paseo Las Mercedes is a good choice.


Then look at the girls in sexycaracas.com.[/QUOTE]

Gringo Mojado thanks for the quick reply! I knew there had to be a reason my friend could get me a price of $82 a night at the Hilton.
Hotel Paseo Las Mercedes looks nice, definitely consider. Thank you :)

FORD

To Gringo Mojado (or anyone else who has an opinion)

I checked out sexycaracas.com and (of course) the girls or at least their bodies are stunning! Alittle too many are silicone assisted for my taste but I'm sure they're all pretty.

To each his own I guess, but sexycaracas.com is probably alittle too straight forward and cut n dry for my taste. No going out and "hunting" for a chica and of course probably no room at all for negotiating.

(Girls from agencies like that always seem to be subtly glancing down at their wristwatch the whole time they're with you- no matter how excited they appear.) ;)

FORD

How are the non-pro chicas in Caracas? Are they friendly to gringos? I went through Caracas in Feb on my way to Margarita Island and I meet some real friendly and hot girls in the airport. I also met one in MI who was cool. Are a lot of the chicas in Caracas who go out to the bars and clubs the same way?

I am like Ford and would rather not use a agency.

I was wondering ... do you still need info on Caracas?

When are you planning to be there?

I just got back from Colombia ... couple weeks.

Let me know ... here or PM. I know you've passed me info in the past.

Taker easy.

[QUOTE=Ricker]I was wondering ... do you still need info on Caracas?

When are you planning to be there?

I just got back from Colombia ... couple weeks.

Let me know ... here or PM. I know you've passed me info in the past.

Taker easy.[/QUOTE]

HI Ricker,

You know its funny, myself and another serious "player" are starting to put together a trip to Medellin in the fall - I think you said that's where you are just returning from. Yes I could use some info, I'll pm you when I free up some free time on both CCS and MDE.

thanks mate, cheers!

OK senor FORD ... I really like Caracas ... Medellin is my paradise!
Just let me know.

Cheers!

Gents,

First of all, I would like to congratulate Catire and Be There for their very informative posts. I am staying in the Eurobuilding right now, and I have never seen a post about the following:

There is an (upscale) massage parlor right next to the Eurobuilding. It is expensive to Venezuela standards, but think about the following: you just landed in Caracas, spent times thru immigration, arrive in the hotel, you are ready for a good massage, but you don't want to drive. You want to keep the cheaper ones for later on .... then this is your gem.

It is in the big business tower exactly left of the Eurobuilding. If you are in the main entrance of the Eurobuilding, you walk thru the hall towards the executive tower of the Eurobuilding. Go outside, and walk to the left. You walk exactly ten seconds, and you are at this upscale business tower with lots of reputed companies. Go inside, no security, and take the elevator to the seventh floor. The massage parlor is in 7G (every "office" has a number). Go inside, and you will be guided to a salon. As usual, there is a menu of services, ranging from 100.000 bolivares for a topless one hour massage with happy hand ending to 200.000 bolivares for full service, including one hour massage. Note that the massage is a REAL massage, not just some caressing. Personally, I like that combination, especially if I am tired, and it is right next to the hotel. After making your choice, about 20 girls will present themselves to you. Guys, absolutely stunning girls (thus the price). Took the full service myself, and will go back.

Again, I know it is expensive, but in dollar terms, it is still just about 80 USD, not too bad, considering the convenience of being ten seconds from the Eurobuilding.
Thought I should share this with you guys. Again, congrats for the great Caracas section. It is incredibly usefull.

Bizz Traveler,

Thanks for your info.

I stayed at the Eurobuilding last year when I visited Caracas. I did not know that there is a massage right next to the hotel. I will be visiting CCS in May, last few days I still looked for another hotel, for now of course the Eurobuilding.

The only thing I really don't like is you need the key to use the elevator. Last time, I had to go down to the lobby to pick up the girls I called from sexycaracas.com

Thanks

Mark

hey ricker,

i have one foot in venezula and one foot on a cáscara del guineo (banana peel) (lol) ;) any info mate you can share?

i hit you with a pm two weeks ago and haven't heard from you - any "off the beaten path" advice you can push along? sc's, casa de citas i can hit w/o getting robbed (figuratively speaking).

i will be staying at the tamanaco.

cheers all.......

I will be in Caracas for about 10 days in May. The first 5 days I must stay at the Hilton and after that who knows.

Any current information on Caracas and the area near the Hilton would be appreciated.

Thanks

Major Dude

IF possible read my reports from last Sept and Nov.......and DO NOT STAY AT THE HILTON

that area is among the most dangerous areas in all of Caracas i stumbled upon this area by accident and I nearly had a heart attack. There is a pretty cool bar/cafe called Rajatabla across the street but dont go w/o a local.....so if your looking to go native check it out, alot of Regaetton music....but dont go alone or else you prob. will get jacked!!!

You would be better served staying at the Tamanaco or Eurobuilding.

When in Caracas stay at the Paseo las Mercedes Hotel at the corner of paseo las mercedes and Avenida Mercedes.

I was in the Tamanaco for the last two nights, Wednesday and Thursday and I would pass in the future.

Great place if you like stuffy atmosphere, loads of $2000 Burberry suit wearing oil executives and $13 breakfasts.

Paseo Las Mercedes is a better choice - its clean, comfortable atmosphere and is located in the lobby of an airconditioned mall with lots of little shops and stores to occupy your down-time. (This is where I´m sitting right now)
I was able to negotiate a price of $68 per night incl. breakfast.

I saw the Hilton its a disaster. Terrible barrio sprung up right around this venerable Hotel. Pass on this hotel regarless of price. Las Mercedes area is neat and safe.

cheers

Ford,
How close are you to the clubs and action at the Mercedes? Can you walk to the places where we would want to hang out at night?

I love Caracas! Great town, great great food, absolutely stunningly gorgeous women everywhere you turn, and (now) good solid accomodations!

Like so many countries and cities to which I`ve traveled Caracas is a study in contrasts. Great disparities in wealth from intense abject poverty to great (OIL) wealth can be seen everywhere. Driving from the CCS airport thru town I witnessed things that in my life experiences - know no equal.

As I left the airport my driver told me that we would be traveling thru (as he called it) the "barrios of Chavez". He said it is poverety like you probably "never seen". "Our president did this to us". I told him that he must have the wrong person for I have "seen it all"! I have traveled thru the barrios of Guatemala City, San Pedro Sula, Tegucigalpa Honduras, Managua Nicaragua, Santo Domingo DR, etc. Nothing will shock me...............I was wrong!

Shocking! As we drove, tens of thousands of little pink and pastel wooden sheds dotted the landscape. Up the mountains, down the mountains, thru the valleys as far as the eyes could see in every direction and out of every window. It is a mass of abject poverty of such magnitude that it must truly rival the famous rolling slums of Sao Paolo and Buenos Airies Brazil.

The relevancy of this preamble to this board is that it is wholly necessary to "get thru" this mass of humanity to get to the area that it is safe to "party". As we drove past the sheds and dilapidated apartment houses I commented that "surely It couldn`t be safe for me, a Norte Americano turista to be in this area" My driver said, "Senor forget about you its not safe for ME to be around here" With that we hit our first redlight and my driver exclaimed " The windows, the windows - lock `em, roll em up!"

con`t.......

Yes i tried to stay at the PLM a couple of times and it is always been filled. The doorman there can exchange money for you at a much higher rate.

NO you cant walk anywhere from that area, you have to take a cab to San Ignacio which is about 10 mins.

The taxi ride from the airport cost anywhere between $30 - $50 depending on your negotiating ability and your ability to make a quick exchange of dollars for bolivars at the airport and pay in the local currency.

I continued to negotiate and negotiate to the point where I actually thought I wasn`t going to be able to get to my hotel at all - finally I was able to work a deal for 70,000 bolivars which is incredible since I was able to flip $100 for 250,000 bolivars by a money changer I ran into on the sidewalk.

As we drove I think my driver was having 2nd thought at the price he quoted me because he kept saying "the usual price is $50 you know"

I arrived at the Hotel Intercontinental Tamanaco around 2:00 pm and found that Citibank was nice enough to block my Platinum card (for my own safety) because they "noticed that charges were coming in from latin america and suspected theft!" How nice of them. Luckilly I had my Amex Platinum on me and I paid the bill with this.

I absolutely didn`t like the Intercontinental at all! When I was there I honestly got the impression that I was the poorest person staying at the entire hotel - AND I HAVE MONEY! The lobby was filled with slick looking Ermenegildo Zegna suit wearing executives and their polished Cartier watch wearing ladies. Before I left these "digs" I enjoyed a $14 american breakfast, and a delicious meal at the outside pool bar with fajitas mixta, 3 beers,and a cup of cafe con leche - all for very reasonable $48!! Outrageous! Stuffy atmosphere, unpleasant staff, unless the hotel is being comped by your company pass my friends, pass ;)
con`t..............

The Hotel Intercontinental is also situated on the top of a mountain so when you want to leave the hotel you need to take one of there "house cabs" who are also nice enough to inflate the prices considerably. You can try walking it but its a hike and of course with you bags it is an impossibility.

I went down the hill nad directly across the street is the Hotel Paseo Las Mercedes. Much better choice!!! It is much cheaper than the Tamanaco $70 as opposed to $124 it is clean, comfortable VERY guest friendly and with a helpful little staff of (semi-criminal porters who can get you anything you want incl. women, bolivars, (read) anything! Ask for Peter, he speaks English at about 50% and consistently flipped me 2500 bolivars for 1 usd on the quiet while the hotel was paying 2000 even.

A rate of $68 for me incl breakfast and gave me a comfortable, decent sized room (bigger than the Intercontinental) with extraordinary air-conditioning and amazingly good hot water.

Not only is the hotel VERY VERY guest friendly, but get this one. When you call up for a girl, the girl enters the hotel and walks up to the front desk and gives the staff her identification card. The man at the front desk calls up to you room and tells you that "there is a girl here for you sir, for fun, may I permit her to come up?" (honest) "Yes, sir you may permit my girl for fun to come up to my room!" :D

Don`t get any late night munchies and raid the mini-bar and I promise you`ll have a great time at the Hotal Las Mercedes and you`ll be able to keep your expenses way down!

Strangely but conveniently the Hotel is located directly inside of a mall - so when you walk out of the front door you are inside a comfortable, stylish shopping mall, complete with restaurants, internet cafes and loads and loads of chica watching! The entire experience makes it seem like you are vactioning at a Hartford Whaler hockey game!

Did he say "Hartford Whaler hockey game??" (I just want to thank the Academy for awarding that line the Dennis Miller trophy for "obscure reference of the day")

Small downside, they have a solarium but I microscopic pool (like the size of a hot tub).

con`t................

"O.K. Ford enough blah, blah, blah and you - the purposes of this board is all about women - what about the women?!"

Caracas has the most amazing looking women I have ever seen in my entire life! (and I`ve traveled all over the western hemisphere) It is is truly no wonder Venezuelan women have won the Miss Universe pagaent more than any country!!

Everywhere you look there are scores of gorgeous trim sexy women!
Women with gorgeous made-up faces, long straight shiny black hair pulled back in pony tails, full breasts, tapered thin tanned waists with belly button piercings, curvy cherry bottoms, long lean legs and wearing little strappy leather sandals with tanned polished feet w/ tan little french manicured toes.

They are walking the malls, seated in the salons, waiting for food in the eateries and paused waiting at the bus stops. Its some sort of superior human race down here and I have no complaints!

Since I was tired of walking around "window shopping" and with my jeans becomming a little to tight in the crotch area and all I decided it was time to make a call to sexycaracas.com and see if I could find one of those "girls that want to come up for fun"

con`t down the road my typing fingers are getting tired :(

cheers,
FORD

[QUOTE=Ford]The taxi ride from the airport cost anywhere between $30 - $50 depending on your negotiating ability and your ability to make a quick exchange of dollars for bolivars at the airport and pay in the local currency.

I continued to negotiate and negotiate to the point where I actually thought I wasn`t going to be able to get to my hotel at all - finally I was able to work a deal for 70,000 bolivars which is incredible since I was able to flip $100 for 250,000 bolivars by a money changer I ran into on the sidewalk.

As we drove I think my driver was having 2nd thought at the price he quoted me because he kept saying "the usual price is $50 you know"

[/QUOTE]For $20 you can arrange to be picked up by Reinaldo Garcia not related to me who drives a late model car and speaks some English. He has a web page at [url]www.venezueladriver.com[/url] and has been previously recommended on this site.

Sexycaracas.com has been discussed on this board several times and with good reason - it is a good website and offers great services! Once you log on you are offered a selection of nearly 90 independent ladies, as well as a number of mp's, and outcall agencies. (There is also a selection tab marked "transexuals" but, I'm sorry I didn't see any reason to click on this choice)

I ended up enjoying the company of girls from agencies - Secret of Love and Tijuana. (2 girls from each)

The girls were friendly, affable, and very gfe. They came when they were supposed to (double meaning here);) and didn't seem to be (noticably) watching the clock. Each of the agencies seem to have a number of girls available - the pictures on the website appears to only be a guide - there are usually several other girls available that aren't featured.

The price was 160,000 bolivars ($64) for 2 hours of an unrushed, playfull evening. The girls at with me and talked for 15 to 20 minutes first and then said they needed to call their "office" so the time would start at the point of their call. Every girl hit me up for another $4 - $6 for a taxi that they was "assumed" in the service, whether it is mentioned on the website or not.

One issue to note - you must be able to speak Spanish at at least %70 to be able to use this service. They're a few girls that claim they "speak English" but I didn't use any of them so I can't make a comment for or against. The women who run the agencies speak NO English so if this is an issue for you you'll probably have to employ one of the porters at the hotel (throw him $4 - $10) to get him to translate for you.

con't

the las mercedes section of caracas is norte americano friendly and it is the area that immediately surrounds the intercontinental hotel and the hotel paseo las mercedes.

this area is "gringo - safe" and is fun to walk around. within safe walking distance of the hplm is a mcdonalds, a wendy's, a tgi fridays, several restaurants featuring fresh steaks, fresk seafood, comida tipico for venezula and even a decent chineese place. in the adjoining mall is a series of shops and stores to fill every shoppers needs.

for an internet cafe you could use the two that located in the mall steps fro the hplm entrance or you can venture two blocks down avenida las mercedes to a place called the computermall. downstairs it is essentially a business/office depot similar to that of a staples, but upstairs it is a combination internet cafe/pasteleria! they charge only about $2 an hour for internet use on a high speed connection and they'll serve you fresh brewed cafe con leche and fresh baked pastries while you "surf".

overall, i enjoyed caracas very much as much as i disliked margarita island. i found ccs to be an exciting, vibrant city with beautiful women and a unique latin sabor!! (flavor)

cheers,
ford

[QUOTE=Reinaldo]For $20 you can arrange to be picked up by Reinaldo Garcia not related to me who drives a late model car and speaks some English. He has a web page at [url]www.venezueladriver.com[/url] and has been previously recommended on this site.[/QUOTE]

Reinaldo,

My price returning to CCS from my hotel was 40,000 bolivars or $16. This was arranged by the porters at my hotel. They try to "rob" you with the cab prices when you arrive internationally into CCS - there is no question about it. I don't care about the English but I like the $20 part - your tip might be worth considering.
cheers

Have never paid more than 50,000 bol from the airport to the city ... any more than that is a rip off.

I am trying to sneak in a little vacation time somewhere in South America and would like everyones advise on Caracas. I am trying to decide which would be the cheaper destination for a non-Spainish speaking monger vacation, Caracas, Rio or Buenos Aires (or where ever else someone recommends).

As far as airline tickets Caracas seems to be the cheapest from Denver, but if the mongering, hotel and food prices are higher then I might select the another place. I will be traveling around the 1st of July and staying for 10-14 days. So what is the weather like during that time?

Thanks in advance for any information you can provide!

One more thing, what would you budget per day to have a really good time (2-3 girls a day)?

Handyman #2

[QUOTE=Handyman #2]I am trying to sneak in a little vacation time somewhere in South America and would like everyones advise on Caracas. I am trying to decide which would be the cheaper destination for a non-Spainish speaking monger vacation, Caracas, Rio or Buenos Aires (or where ever else someone recommends).

As far as airline tickets Caracas seems to be the cheapest from Denver, but if the mongering, hotel and food prices are higher then I might select the another place. I will be traveling around the 1st of July and staying for 10-14 days. So what is the weather like during that time?

Thanks in advance for any information you can provide!

One more thing, what would you budget per day to have a really good time (2-3 girls a day)?

Handyman #2[/QUOTE]

Easy stuff! (Next time Handyman #2 ask more difficult questions) ;)

Where should you go? Ans: Cartagena, Colombia (Spanish speaking
or nor will do you no good in Rio)

What is the weather like? Ans: Very "effin" HOT!

What to budget? Ans: To have a real good time I always bring
$200 a day (but always bring $$ home)

cheers!

Was two times in Caracas ( 2 x 1 night) on my way to colombia. The going rate is USD 25,00. But every cab driver try to screw with you! They start with USD 40,00. Believe me or not, someone try to charge me USD 80,00!

Trendy Andy

I´ve visited Caracas about a gazillion times ... mas o menos.

Never pay more than 50,000 bol from the airport to the city in a taxi ... about $20 with an exhange rate of 2500 to 1.

Suerte!

[QUOTE=Ricker]I´ve visited Caracas about a gazillion times ... mas o menos.

Never pay more than 50,000 bol from the airport to the city in a taxi ... about $20 with an exhange rate of 2500 to 1.

Suerte![/QUOTE]


15K was the going rate for a regular taxi last year and the unofficial exchange rate is more or less the same as it was a year ago. Adjusting for inflation, I wouldn't be shocked if prices are now close to 20K bolivares, but that's still only $8 US under black market rate.

Yeah, it was 12-15K when the bolivar was 800 to 1, therefore $20, but taxi prices for Venezuelans have not been dolarized, cuz no one would pay it.

The airport "ejecutivo" service for tourists is another matter, but even those thieves were charging 25K last year. If they're charging 50K now, then the tourists must be getting more stupid by the minute.

I can't imagine someone showing up to Caracas and negotiating with a taxi for 15-20,000 bolivares ... from the airport to the city.

Most guys ... the vast majority ... of guys visiting Caracas are tourists ... I think finding a secure taxi for 40-50,000 bolivares is about right.

Can you really imagine a gringo showing up ... first time in Caracas ... and trying to find a jalopy taxi to the city for cheap.
His espanol skills are probably weak to begin with.

Yes, of course, if you're a more seasoned traveler, know Caracas, speak espanol, by all means go negotiate a bottom price if you want.

When I show up in Caracas ... I have a friend who is a taxista ... he meets me outside customs, grabs my bags and I know I have a cool dude taking me to the city.

Sure I could probably try to negotiate with him for bottom bolivar pricing ... but why?
Am I stupid? That's your opinion.

Suerte

I thought that perhaps my posts might generate alittle friendly topical discussion/debate on this board, but all it has done is begin a conversation about cab prices! :(

Well, yes I guess I overpayed on my way from the airport - but then I only payed $16 on my way back to the airport so I guess I'm a quick learner. ;)

BTW, I agree with you, Ricker when you suggest that when you take a first trip anywhere its hard to negotiate the very best price "right out of the gates" Some things take a certain degree of experience.

For example this was my first trip to Venezuela, but I've been to the Dominican Republic and a few other places, (what was your line again) about a gazillion times and you'd probably be amazed how I can "spin the sh**" down there! ;)
FORD

I haven't been able to log on for about 6 months due to the forum's troubles, but now Jackson seems to have this under control. I have a few adventures to tell you in the coming weeks so I am glad to be back!

Don't take Bs 15 K cabs as you are sure to get mugged or worse!

Be safe,

Be there

Guys,

as i am still in the proces of were to go this october....I am also intrested in venzuela.
Thailand maybe is cheap......dirt cheap indeed (compared to SA anyway)...but those little yellow petit girlies overthere just don't ring my bell....LOL Sorry can't help it. I mean I would FUCK em.....but they do NOT ring my bell.

I like my chunky ass latina...:-) Besidwes my thai is nearly zero....and seems like it it will stay that way!

So what up with safety in caracas???? Is it that bad??? What about Isla Margarita. I guess the ho's in Caracas are cheaper then in isla M....right?

Is this city of caracas worth a full 14 day stay or not???

cheers,

johan

Does Caracas have their version of the Radio Taxis like in BsAs which seem to be a little more safe and honest then other competing line of taxis? Also, are meters commonly used or do you have to haggle over each fair?

Ford… LOL, sorry amigo, just thought I’d bust your chops a little with the above question. I would like to know the answers to them though…

I’ve been RTFF and still have a ways to go, but if anyone feels like taking a break from talking about taxis, I have a brief list of places in Caracas that I have made notes on from this forum. Please feel free to comment on any of these places that I am listing or the places that I am not listing (I started at the very last page of this forum and am working my way up to this page, but some of those post were really old):

- Sabana Grande area: El Morrison, Embassy, El Saxo
- Angelus
- Las Mercedes area?

I’ve only read the last ten pages of the Caracas forum, so I would imagine (hope) that the above list would expand a little?? Anyway, Ford’s or anyone else’s comments would appreciated.

I would be curious to know which places are considered Caracas’s high-end establishments like Madaho’s and Black in BsAs or Centaurus and Barbarela in Rio. Also the more reasonably priced places would be nice to know too. Does anyone know if a good all-around summary of Caracas is available somewhere? I know… RTFF, I’m doing that. Just thought I would throw this out there since the activity in the CCS forum has been picking up. BTW Ford, thanks for you’re your nice report on Caracas.

Thanks,

Y & R

As far as those clubs you mentioned Y and Restless ...

I prefer Angelus ... lots of hot chicas!

The place can be pricey ... I like to go in and scout for the "sweeter" type chicas and talk with them and get their phone numbers for a "date" later.

El Morrison is too subdued for me ... too dark and quiet ... they have hot chicas too ... and it's also pricey ... just not my type of place.

A place near Angelus ... actually accross the street from Sambil Mall ... called Flash Dance ... OK place ... chicas are just OK with the occasional hottie.
Nice place to hit after hanging at Angelus and getting a phone contact from an Angelus chica for later.
Flash Dance prices ... lot less expensive ... I think about a $20 bar fine plus the chicas tip ... another $20 to $40, depending on your skills of negotiating.

Suerte!

[QUOTE=Young & Restless]Ford… LOL, sorry amigo, just thought I’d bust your chops a little with the above question. I would like to know the answers to them though…[/QUOTE]

Why you rjwnjnJKEKwbk!! (lol) Absolutely no problem, guys like Ricker and all are the real experts here - and I think you are correct to ask as many questions as you can. When a person ventures into a latin american city for the first time - knowledge is power!

I am happy to say however, that after one week home the one contribution I made to this board is the Hotel Paseo Las Mercedes. I have received 4 separarate pm's now from guys that say they are planning there first trip to CCS and are going to stay at the HPLM due to my review.

I'm glad, I think you will all find this the perfect "player" hotel and a very nice mix of value, convenience and style.

Very much along the lines of the Hotel Naco on Ave Tiradentes in Santo Domingo. (I know, I know another obscure reference that probably only means something to me) ;)

cheers........

[QUOTE=Johan007]So what up with safety in caracas???? Is it that bad??? What about Isla Margarita. I guess the ho's in Caracas are cheaper then in isla M....right?

Is this city of caracas worth a full 14 day stay or not???[/QUOTE]


Hi Johan,

I know what you mean - asia girls do nothing for me either! It always amazed me how guys can get on those 23 hour flights 2/3 the way around the world just to go to Thailand or Malaysia or Indonesia. It sure isn't of any interest to me.

I planned to stay in Venezuela for 14 days but cut my trip short when I found Margarita Is not to be to my liking. Imo, if you spend 14 days in CCS you'll be going stir crazy! (too repetitive) Caracas is worth considering, but is probably about a comfortable 7 day/6 night destination.

Safety in CCS of course like anywhere is an issue but you'll be perfectly o.k. strolling around the Las Mercedes section of the city.

BTW, Carcas has some great restaurants with some damn tasty (criolla-indigenous) food!! Its easy to gain weight here.

FORD

Morrison's is THE high end place in Caracas, IMHO. By the way, I haven't been able to find Flash Dance, though I am friends with one of the owners, a really nice and reputable guy who says just to mention his name at the door. He said right across from Sambil, but I haven't been able to find it!

Be safe,

Be there

Thanks Ford,

from own experience i know places just like Isla M...(and you have the same places in DR and Brasil) they get BUSloads of turists seeking cheap (all-inn) hotels etc..etc Streetvendors/beggars all over the place (warning for this in cartagena Colombia;they are the worst i ever saw in my live!!!!!)
Most hookers you will find here are full pros. So i reckon the prices will go up accordingly.(even if you do speak spanish)
Besides that i HATE it to be a single guy in such all-in hotels were mommy and daddy take their kids...! To me they look more like a prison. I tried to take in girls in Dom.Rep...and Bulgaria...but i had to pay much more money to get the girl inside. Well...this pisses me off. And i don't feel like all the time going to some run down love motel were the cockroches are running on the floor...LOL.(you know what I mean)
So that is why I only rent appartments or girlfriendly hotels;-) The pousada idea in Brasil was great. here I had no problems at all to bring in girls.
Only major backdraw i can imagine on Caracas is that there is NO beach!!!!!!!!!!!:-(
But then again...there are plenty shopping malls instead;-)

regards,

johan.


[QUOTE=Ford]Hi Johan,

I know what you mean - asia girls do nothing for me either! It always amazed me how guys can get on those 23 hour flights 2/3 the way around the world just to go to Thailand or Malaysia or Indonesia. It sure isn't of any interest to me.

I planned to stay in Venezuela for 14 days but cut my trip short when I found Margarita Is not to be to my liking. Imo, if you spend 14 days in CCS you'll be going stir crazy! (too repetitive) Caracas is worth considering, but is probably about a comfortable 7 day/6 night destination.

Safety in CCS of course like anywhere is an issue but you'll be perfectly o.k. strolling around the Las Mercedes section of the city.

BTW, Carcas has some great restaurants with some damn tasty (criolla-indigenous) food!! Its easy to gain weight here.

FORD[/QUOTE]

Hey guys,

Thanks for all of your good feedback and sharing your knowledge on a place that I have heard tons of good things about for so long now, but just don’t see too many reports/discussions on the internet.

Ford, it’s all useful as far as I’m concerned, amigo. From the ‘take-it-to-the-bank’ advice from the seasoned pros, to the fresh perspective of the first-timers, it’s all good!

Thanks for the tip on Flash Dance. That's just what I'm talking about! If anyone feels like recommending any other "must try" places that weren't in my list, please let me know. I can't think of anything worse than writing a trip report and someone telling you they can't believe you didn't go to "Club Whatever"... Just one more time for the record, I am RTFF in its entirety all the way from the beginning and working my way up to now.

I might make another trip to BsAs before I try out Caracas, but expect a trip report from me once I go. Thanks again for your feedback!

Y & R

[QUOTE=Young & Restless] Also, are meters commonly used or do you have to haggle over each fair?[/QUOTE]No meters.

[QUOTE=Ricker]I can't imagine someone showing up to Caracas and negotiating with a taxi for 15-20,000 bolivares ... from the airport to the city.

Most guys ... the vast majority ... of guys visiting Caracas are tourists ... I think finding a secure taxi for 40-50,000 bolivares is about right.

Can you really imagine a gringo showing up ... first time in Caracas ... and trying to find a jalopy taxi to the city for cheap.
His espanol skills are probably weak to begin with.

Yes, of course, if you're a more seasoned traveler, know Caracas, speak espanol, by all means go negotiate a bottom price if you want.

When I show up in Caracas ... I have a friend who is a taxista ... he meets me outside customs, grabs my bags and I know I have a cool dude taking me to the city.

Sure I could probably try to negotiate with him for bottom bolivar pricing ... but why?
Am I stupid? That's your opinion.

Suerte[/QUOTE]

Dude, define "secure taxi". The most official "secure taxi" is the black SUV fleet run out of the airport, by your typical Latin monopoly, in with the govt on the scam, company. You see this BS all over Latin America.

but even THEY, as I mentioned, were charging 25K, (though they'd try to hit you for 30) last year. If they've kicked it up to 40K, that wouldn't be justified by rate of inflation. That's a 33% increase and inflation is 13% (though it's actually been a year and a half now) 50K is donwright and totally preposterous, (of course you pay a little more if going further east like Chuao, etc).

The prices I'm giving you are NORMAL REGULAR taxi prices negotiated by Venezuelans each and every day. Yes, of course this assumes decent Spanish skills and the ability to appear confident and look like you know what you're doing.

A regular 'gringo' showing up in Caracas will usually always take that official taxi service (the US Embassy recommends taking those), and if they're pricing themselves at 50K these days, what was merely a scam before has now become complete robbery.

now if you have a "friend", that's a different thing. btw. there are tons of guys who will come up to every gringo looking character and whisper. "taxi, taxi" even before you leave the gate. However, if you think about it, those are no safer than a taxi you hail outside (you have to be sneaky about this, since the official taxi service "prohibits" this) or walk across to the parking lots like the locals have to. In fact, it's these illegal taxis (because the guys aren't even regular marked taxis/taxistas) that might be the most dangerous because they can be "hunting for rich targets" at the airport, whereas catching a normal taxi is more of a normal affair. I actually used one of these guys once, for 12K, a very very nice guy who was very happy to make some dough. (I think in the end I gave him 15, but the negotiated price was 12). I'd have to agree you better know Spanish and have street savvy (and look it) if you deal with the "undercover" taxistas inside the terminal, otherwise you're taking a HUGE risk.

Sounds to me like you're simply being "generous" to your taxista because now you feel like he's your "friend", and you've established a certain level of trust.
But I would also say this is illusory and it's merely based on your generosity.

The vast majority of normal taxidrivers aren't robbers, thieves or kidnappers.They're normal people trying to make a normal living, and almost everyone will give you a card with their number on it, if you ever want to use them for driving around town, or back to the airport, etc etc. If they weren't making a normal profit on the local/Venezuelan rate, then they wouldn't bother wanting the clientele, right?

I had taxistas I used around town somewhat regularly as well, and they were all very cool guys. That said, their coolness, their normal helpfulness, etc etc wasn't established by my being "generous", at least not ridiculously so. Venezolanos are by nature warm people, muy amable y sympatico.

Of course, if you are targeted by a group of malandros, etc then indeed that's a situation I'd hate to be in or wish for anyone to be in.

If you're a middle aged gringo, who looks like a businessman, etc then you will surely be the juiciest "target". In that scenario take all possible precautions.

but there is no "secure" taxi in your scenario outisde of the black SUV's outside.

If you want to be "generous", and throw money around, that is your prerogative. You'll be very popular I am sure but I'll apologize for calling you "stupid". Your actions might be stupid in my book but I don't fit the typical gringo tourist profile and I have a "thing" about overseas taxi and other assorted gringo scams.

I have no fucking idea why I'm getting involved in this stupid discussion here once again. Hopefully I'll learn and not get entangled these threads again.

Apologies.

p.s. for finality's sake, just what IS the "official tourist taxi" black SUV rate from the airport to Chacao these days?? btw, even their prices are negotiable, especially if there's no line and they're just standing out there. I once negotiated them down from the official 28K down to 20K, because it was late in evening and I was carrying a fair amount of valuables, as well as several thousand US$ in cash (which is the only reason I used them)

[QUOTE=Be There]Morrison's is THE high end place in Caracas, IMHO. By the way, I haven't been able to find Flash Dance, though I am friends with one of the owners, a really nice and reputable guy who says just to mention his name at the door. He said right across from Sambil, but I haven't been able to find it!

Be safe,

Be there[/QUOTE]


Maybe they took the little sign down. It is RIGHT across the street from Sambil, going back west, but before the intersection where you go up the street to the Chacao metro station.

the KEY is that the entrance is from the parking lot (which is clearly evident outside) and then you have to go down into the basement floor of the parking lot, and then take stairs back up once you're inside the building. There is no entrance readily accessible or visible from the street (think somewhat similar like walking downstairs into shopping center to go to Angelus)

there should be a little sign/ad in the parking lot that will clue you in that you're there.

It's an interesting place, much more Venezuelan than gringo/foreigner stuffed places like Morrison's and the strip joints. Most venezolanos come in there to drink some beer, watch the girls dance, kind of like in a US strip club. I've seen a couple of cuties in there. Been there several times and once a visiting friend of mine negotiated a girl for a couple of hours for 80K bolos, but I think he had to pay the house their "salida" which I think was probably around 40k.

hopefully now you can find it and check it out for yourself.

btw, I'll make every effort to swing by for at least a short visit sometime this year (probably in the fall). If I don't get mugged by my street taxi :) , we'll have to hang out one evening.

one word of warning about Flashdance (though this is unlikely to happen to you, but very likely to gringo tourist). The girls will of course demand ladydrinks to sit with you and once when I was entertaining some gringo friends and not paying attention like I usually do, their girl companions kept ordering these little fucking wines. When I got the bill, I went fucking ballistic because these little fucking things cost 12K each instead of the normal 6-7K, and the girls had managed to order 11 of these during the time we spent there!

p.s. ever been in Canagua?? it's right there by Angelus at non Angelus prices and without the massive silicone.

Did I ever tell you the story about the Morrison's girl who I had first seen working at Calle de los Hoteles? She recognized me and we struck up a conversation. She was interesting enough that I felt it was worth while to buy her a drink and chat a bit. Anyways, she was of course trying to interest me in procuring her "services" (and I think she also offered a threesome with a friend.. how typical :) )

Point of the story is that we discussed her changing of work addresses and the resulting change in "pricing" and she made the following point. Now that she was at Morrison's, she was getting her hair done daily and wearing much nicer dresses to work and she deemed this as good enough reasons for charging double for her compania. Not surprisingly, I did not :) but she was a cool chick and buying her a couple of drinks was well worth my time and money.

when I come I'll show you a little trick to maximize your Morrison "salida" and get flexibility when it comes to spending more time than the official alloted "one hour" with your girl. I've actually never been with a Morrison girl but several of them clued me in as to this "loophole".

btw. mandame un correo electronico, por favor.

[QUOTE=Catire]

p.s. for finality's sake, just what IS the "official tourist taxi" black SUV rate from the airport to Chacao these days?? btw, even their prices are negotiable, especially if there's no line and they're just standing out there. I once negotiated them down from the official 28K down to 20K, because it was late in evening and I was carrying a fair amount of valuables, as well as several thousand US$ in cash[/QUOTE]Anfitriones de Venezuela which has the fleet of black Explorers took down the ticket kiosk they had inside the terminal building itself so the official rate no longer exists. It's whatever they can get.

[QUOTE=Reinaldo]Anfitriones de Venezuela which has the fleet of black Explorers took down the ticket kiosk they had inside the terminal building itself so the official rate no longer exists. It's whatever they can get.[/QUOTE]

very interesting.Thanks.
it would also explain the rates. The locals don't use these fools. Since foreigners are conditioned to convert everything to dollars, 20 US doesn't sound preposterous to them even though it might be by local standards. Probably a smart business decision.

that said, I don't remember them having a "ticket kiosk" inside the terminal. They had a certain set rate of prices outside, but the one time I used them, I was able to negotiate them down anyways.

btw the reason I feel reasonably safe catching regular taxis outside of the terminal is basically the following.:

the people out looking to do no good, typically 'case' out their potential victims ahead of time. This makes sense, you want to maximize your opportunity, right?

the regular taxis I catch outside the terminal (just above/below the black Explorers) are not officially ALLOWED to pick up passengers there and they can't stick around, which allows for no "casing" or staking out opportunities.

So what I get is simply a taxista either trying his luck in catching a fare, or someone who just dropped someone off , so my odds are automatically drastically better.

btw. fares from Caracas to airport are usually even better. Rate from Chacao to airport a year and a half ago from almost any taxi you'd catch on the street was 12K, 15 tops. If you want to call a taxi service, you can get one for as little as 9K.

And no.. their gas prices haven't gone up. Gasoline prices are regulated by govt and I think they're still something like 26 us CENTS a gallon!

[QUOTE=Ford]Here's a true story that might help future Caracas travelers. (shouldn't really be in the photo section, but what the hell)

One night I punched up the website [url]www.sexycaracas.com[/url] in an internet cafe and decided on a 20 year old girl named Astrid from an agency called "Secrets of Love". I just went on the website and she is still listed there.

She arrives in the lobby of my hotel and the hotel stafff calls up to my room and tells me that there is young lady here who wants to come up but she doesn't have her i.d. only a copy of it. So I go down to the lobby to see if I can mediate the problem and I meet Astrid. Major hotty! Blonde hair, pretty face cute little strappy sandals and a nice VERY enjoyable body! Small chest but VERY hot!

She and I chat it up a while in Spanish and she tells me that her "boss" is bringing her i.d. - should be here in 15 minutes. So I wait with her and start getting totally "juiced" for this little sexy package! I pop a vita V and buy her a beer at the bar while we wait. About 20 minutes pas and her "boss" arrives with another copy of her i.d.!! She has no idea where the original is and neither does Astrid. Since the next day was Mothers Day and Astrid was planning on spending the day with family there was no way I would be able to see her again. :(

I sat in the bar drowning my sorrows in Regional Light Beer while the viagara wore off. Sad I never spent any time with her except in the lobby.

Anyone traveling to CCS should seriously consider "meeting" Astrid from "Secrets of Love". Tell me how it went and make me jealous! (but make sure she has her original i.d. with her)

Cheers,
FORD[/QUOTE]

Hi Ford,

Thought I'd reply to this here so everyone will be happy.

I’ve had something very similar to this happen to me in Rio. I don't know about Caracas, but in Rio they have many love motels that couldn't care less if the girl has an ID or not. Ultimately, that's what I pursued... I wasn't too exited about spending the extra money for a love motel, but once she and I got inside the room, I forgot all about that...

Btw, too bad they removed the Tijuana section from the [url]www.sexycaracas.com;[/url] your girl was really cute. Oh well, at least you had some fun with her!

Take it easy,

Y & R

y & r i think what happened to me is that i became very jaded. there are so many beautiful women in ccs that i got lazy. i mean i was all "set up" in my room at the hotel paseo las mercedes that i didn't want to move.

i should probably explain what i mean by "all set up"

i'm a little different kind of "player" - on my trips i bring a pair of expandable high frequency speakers, an ipod and sony discman with a full assortment of merengue, bachata, and salsa loaded - three different speed vibrators/clit buzzers, digital cameras, digital camcorders, candles etc. even some "hard-core" players are shocked by me!!

for example i have traveled to the island of curacao 3x. here, most guys
meet girls in campo alegre and spend 20 minutes with them in their little room at the complex for about $20. not me!! :)

i take 2 or 3 girls out of the complex for the day, bring them back to my hotel where i have disposable string bikinis (3 or 4 wears - you can buy them on the internet because very few girls bring there own and buying them on the island can get expensive) and then take them to jan thiel beach and lay in a beach chair with two girls draped over me topless for several hours and then back to my room for a threesome!! ;)

i am not a "quickie-motel" kind of guy.

cheers,
ford

Ford, I could not agree with you more. Most guys simply are not using Campo on CUR to its full advantage. I am all in favor of your approach. In fact,Campo I would say is the easiest place I have been to to obtain GFE - if you are willing to provide BFE to the girls.

[QUOTE=Tbird]Ford, I could not agree with you more. Most guys simply are not using Campo on CUR to its full advantage. I am all in favor of your approach. In fact,Campo I would say is the easiest place I have been to to obtain GFE - if you are willing to provide BFE to the girls.[/QUOTE]

Yes, Tbird I do love Campo very much but my point of mentioning it here was just an illustration of the kind of traveler I am and the reason why I didn't run the little "Secrets of Love" chica Astrid to a "quickie" motel.

Nothing wrong with this arangement (some guys in the Dominican Republic for example love taking girls to the short term cabanas - they're beautifully decorated) but its just not my personality. I like setting up in a good comfortable hotel like the Paseo Las Mercedes - and doing my business there. :)

cheers all,
FORD

I'll be arriving on Saturday for a two month tour of the country largely based out of the Andean state of Merida.

I'm interested in the overall state of the cellular phone system. Any idea on how well a Caracas based cell phone will get coverage in areas like Merida, Puerto Cabello, Valencia, San Cristobal, etc.

I'll probably spent most of my time outside of Caracas but want a reliable means to communicate. Any information would be appreciated.

[QUOTE=Perry Mason #1]I'll be arriving on Saturday for a two month tour of the country largely based out of the Andean state of Merida.

I'm interested in the overall state of the cellular phone system. Any idea on how well a Caracas based cell phone will get coverage in areas like Merida, Puerto Cabello, Valencia, San Cristobal, etc.

I'll probably spent most of my time outside of Caracas but want a reliable means to communicate. Any information would be appreciated.[/QUOTE]


Telcel? Digitel? there are several others.

my memory fails me now and plans and coverages tend to shift, so what was the case last year might not be the case this year.

When I was there, for e.g. Digitel was the cheapest and limited to the Caracas area only, whereas Telcel for e.g. was country wide.

I know since then Digitel has upgraded system and raised prices, I don't know what their current coverage areas are.

There are like three or four main cell carriers that everyone uses. I've named two.

Figure out who your carrier is and simply ask them or a local what the coverage of that carrier is.

"Caracas based" means nothing. It depends on who your carrier/company is.

A number of good experiences at the massage parlors. Does anyone have the addresses to these places. The sexycaracas site has the names, but not the locations. The individual websites also without addresses, to my search. Thanks.

I am stuck at Caracas airport next week Sunday night the Friday night in transit to work. Any action there?

Can anybody give me somebody to call to come to visit me from the city?

Agency? Indepedent?

I really want to try Venezuelan pu$$y

Thanks in advance.

There is a report in the photo gallery section.

Prosbocito

Not much action on the Caracas board ... guess I'll have to make a quick trip there and stir things up a bit.

Heading down in early July and again in late July ... looking forward to seeing some Chamas again ... I've been hanging in Colombia lately.

Hopefully ... something worth reporting will come up ... seguro que si!!

Is there a main strip with street walkers in Caracas?

Also escort prices are ridicoulous in this place.

Is there anybody you guys would recommend? Small frame and young? For a good price? Any good webpages for escorts? Pics Pics

ChicagoBoy:

Almost any decent hotel you stay around airport can direct you to a closeby joint to get some good Venezulian pussy. Don't woory, once you get thre ask around to right people and you canget some decent room service. Pussy is lot better in Caracas than in say Isla Margarita.

[QUOTE=Tasty1]ChicagoBoy:

Almost any decent hotel you stay around airport can direct you to a closeby joint to get some good Venezulian pussy. Don't woory, once you get thre ask around to right people and you canget some decent room service. Pussy is lot better in Caracas than in say Isla Margarita.[/QUOTE]


Hi Tasty,

please enlighten me in your statement WHY pussy would be "better"in caracas??? because it's (probably) more expensive?? because there are more girls to pick from?? Because they are more "educated".
What are your standards WHY pussy is "better"?? Is it better because the girs are more pretty??? Is it better because they give a way a better performance??? Did you had a bad experience with pussy performance OUTSIDE Caracas???
IMHO most pussy which is more expensive (probably) will NOT be better at all.
So that is why i tell you guys NOT to overpay in such countries. It's ridiculous to pay 100 US $ an hour (I have seen such prices for take out hookers on Cararcas-based escort websites......I am sure you find some listed in this section) in a country were the average wages for a whole MONTH is probably NOT more then 200 US $./....!!!And that will be if you have a GOOD job;-)
That would be the same if you payed in the US 1000 $ for an hour of sex!!! I kindda doubt that.....;-) So lets get real here.

Up till now the best p4p sex i ever had was with a 5 Euro(!!!!) streethooker i met in central parc in Fortaleza-Brasil. She was hanging out there (during the day) with some 10-15 other hookers;ready for take off with locals or turists. I paid her 5 Euro for an hour sex and 2 euro for the rented (love)motelroom we went to. Two buddies of mine were waiting outside.....just incase because it wasn't the best barrio from town.(certainly a no-go area at night!!)
All this was in early 2003. I can tell you this girl was GREAT. She fucked and sucked me with such a passion i never experienced before!!!! Her attitude was great,tell you that.
Many (more costlier) hookers i met after her were snobby or had more other lousy personality features (clockwatchers....you name it...).

Even in my home country the Netherlands i had good sex with socalled "homeworkers"(at a rate for € 60,- an hour;which is considered "cheap"overhere)! In fact most of the times it is better then the sex you ever have in the clubs which cost about 80-100 euro an hour or more if you want extra's!!! But all this is MHO.


So again: WHY would pussy be "better" in Caracas then on isla Margarita????


regards,


Johan.

[QUOTE=Johan007]Hi Tasty,

So again: WHY would pussy be "better" in Caracas then on isla Margarita????


regards,


Johan.[/QUOTE]


it's not, depending on how you look at things.

pussy is pussy.

but odds of getting a GFE are probably much better on the island because many girls are freelancers. The CCS scene is very commercial/professional.

In my experience, there's more pussy to be found in Caracas than on Margaraita Island. Thus the possibilities for getting better pussy exist in Caracas.

Like I said before " I kindda doubt that"....

If you are on the Island I guess you will be swarmed with hookers. Far more then on any day then in the Capital. IF this is better for the QUALITY of the services....I don't know. I do know that prices on the Island in general are much higher then on the mainland. So any hooker could make MORE bucks on the Island then in Caracas. That's WHY so many girls leave from the mainland to Isla M to make a buck....;-)

Pussy will go were the $$$/€€€ is....and that is on isla Margarita. Why?? Very simple because the place is a wellknown travel destination for inland and international package tours. The Island has many (i said MANY) turists with money. Many Europeans and North-Americans are seen there.Even richer venezuelans will travel there......
Caracas indeed has about 4.5 million people...but from those 90% are just on or even UNDER the poverty line. Do you REALY think they will spend money on middle/upper class hookers??? No way.
Please read up on recent venezuelan history; and you'll know what I am talking about.

It's just simple maths.
Johan

[QUOTE=Soaring Eagle]In my experience, there's more pussy to be found in Caracas than on Margaraita Island. Thus the possibilities for getting better pussy exist in Caracas.[/QUOTE]

Each of our experiences are different, but I've been to BOTH Caracas and Margarita Island and I did far better in Caracas, including with "up-scale" ladies.

Hi guys,

I see you guys are have a lovely debate but forget to include details about any of this in your posts. I was a lonely tourist down their a couple of weeks ago with very little information about caracas or the isla marg. luckily someone posted lots of good info about caracas in the photo section which got me better oriented.

First of all I did the escort agency thing while in caracas, you just cant beat the no hassle of having a chic come to you while you chill out and watch tv. I hate to be the guy telling you to check out the other post but I just dont have the time to write every agency and what not that i did but I will explain to hopefully help someone out.

The agency escorts chics ran from 100,000 bolivares to 150,000 with the 150 being for top notch pussy. I stayed in the embassy suites in chacao and was not dissapointed as the guys let all girls into my room withiout bitchin about me being there alone. the Chacao area is a good area for those caracas newbies. The escorts were all good the lower end girls were lower end but I guess im just gettin to picky nowadays. I managed to work out a price of 400,000 bolivares for this gorgeus 18 year old escort who stayed all nite with me. Considering the agencies are asking for 1,300,000 for an all niter i thought this waws a bargain, I talked to the girl directly not with the agency.

My clubn times in caracas were short but ok, I went to a place called divas but left and went to the main one in caracas agua something dont rememeber but i beleive it starts with an A. The girls were plentiful and hot, i took home a nice black chick 180,000 door fee and then she stayed all nite and i paid her 200,000 as i didnt know what to pay her and she didnt ask so whatever. Like i said they have all kinds of girls here just name your desire.

An important thing to know is that the Escorts do not work on sunday, I mean if you dont have an appointment set for sunday dont expect to make an appointment on sunday. I found out this the hard way as i was forced to order and ugly hooker from the taxi cab guys downstairs at the embassy sure she was cheaper 60,000 plus but the quality was lacking so book ahead or hit the titty clubs which dont start until 8pm. If any one needs any info just let me know, thanks.

[QUOTE=Magic Don Juan]Hi guys,

I see you guys are have a lovely debate but forget to include details about any of this in your posts. I was a lonely tourist down their a couple of weeks ago with very little information about caracas or the isla marg. luckily someone posted lots of good info about caracas in the photo section which got me better oriented.

First of all I did the escort agency thing while in caracas, you just cant beat the no hassle of having a chic come to you while you chill out and watch tv. I hate to be the guy telling you to check out the other post but I just dont have the time to write every agency and what not that i did but I will explain to hopefully help someone out.

The agency escorts chics ran from 100,000 bolivares to 150,000 with the 150 being for top notch pussy. I stayed in the embassy suites in chacao and was not dissapointed as the guys let all girls into my room withiout bitchin about me being there alone. the Chacao area is a good area for those caracas newbies. The escorts were all good the lower end girls were lower end but I guess im just gettin to picky nowadays. I managed to work out a price of 400,000 bolivares for this gorgeus 18 year old escort who stayed all nite with me. Considering the agencies are asking for 1,300,000 for an all niter i thought this waws a bargain, I talked to the girl directly not with the agency.

My clubn times in caracas were short but ok, I went to a place called divas but left and went to the main one in caracas agua something dont rememeber but i beleive it starts with an A. The girls were plentiful and hot, i took home a nice black chick 180,000 door fee and then she stayed all nite and i paid her 200,000 as i didnt know what to pay her and she didnt ask so whatever. Like i said they have all kinds of girls here just name your desire.

An important thing to know is that the Escorts do not work on sunday, I mean if you dont have an appointment set for sunday dont expect to make an appointment on sunday. I found out this the hard way as i was forced to order and ugly hooker from the taxi cab guys downstairs at the embassy sure she was cheaper 60,000 plus but the quality was lacking so book ahead or hit the titty clubs which dont start until 8pm. If any one needs any info just let me know, thanks.[/QUOTE]

Good stuff, Magic Don Juan! I agree with you wholeheartedly for all you raesons given.

Is there a bus that passes near the airport into town ?
Does anyone know if a small 125cc -250 cc motorbikes
are rented anywhere in Caracas?

Johan007:

Pussy in Isal Marg is mostly island girls, homey, dark and crude. While in Caracas they are soft, fair colored and chic and elegant. If goal is to fuck anything with a hole, Isla is ok. But in Caracas, pussy is clean, better looking and not with "hotel maid" look. I know tastes are different. But if grabbing your crotch and bad breath is your style, Isla is ok. If you wish CLASS, from how they smell to maicured nails etc, Caracas is lot better. Just my opinion, does not make it right. Take it what it is worth.

Hi Tasty,

I agree with you completely. But wouldn't you say the ladies in caracas also TEND to be more snotty and/or pretentious as the women on isla M?????
What i saw untill now (via the internet) doesn't look promising at all.....certainly NOT the women in caracas. But maybe i just gout bad luck?

Right now I am having my doubts of going to venezuela at all!!!!!!!!!!!!
I allready paid my ticket with Iberia.(yes...FUCK ME for 732 euros)
I am rethinking to go to DR or to Honduras after all.
hell even the women in Panama were more easy going then the "baracudas"I've met from caracas..!!
yes I know......i am a libra and i don't know what I want. LOL

regards,

Johan.

[QUOTE=Tasty1]Johan007:

Pussy in Isal Marg is mostly island girls, homey and chic and elegant. If goal is to fuck anything with a hole, Isla is ok. But in Caracas, pussy is clean, better looking and not with "hotel maid" look. I know tastes are different. But if grabbing your crotch and bad breath is your style, Isla is ok. If you wish CLASS, from how they smell to maicured nails etc, Caracas is lot better. Just my opinion, does not make it right. Take it what it is worth.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Johan007]Hi Tasty,

I agree with you completely. But wouldn't you say the ladies in caracas also TEND to be more snotty and/or pretentious as the women on isla M?????
What i saw untill now (via the internet) doesn't look promising at all...
I am rethinking to go to DR or to Honduras after all.


Johan.[/QUOTE]

Hi Johan,

Not to get off topic here but I've been to Honduras 2x and the DR 6x and , my friend you will have a great time in either destination!

(Also Port Royal Beer -Honduras, and Presidente- Dom Rep is a hell of alot better than Polar.) :)

cheers.............

Johann007:

I have not been to DR or Honduras. So can't compare. Out of all central/south america, Venezuela was my least favorite for mongering. I got better and cheaper pussy in Poland than in Venezuela. See my Poland posting. What a great experience in Warsaw. Screw (no pun intended) Venezuela.

tasty1:

i may inform you that i (had to) cancel my flight to caracas. i had to pay a fine (100 e),pay the taxes (another 170 e) and another 20e for admin costs.
only after doing this i could again buy online a ticket to santo domingo (dr...yes that's right). all in all i got fucked for 300 euros. that is better then to go to a place and have a bad holiday for 18 days. don't you agree?

a few reasons made my rethink my choice not to go to venezuela:
1)present policaly unrest ie chavez versus non-chavez activists. i predict more and more protests and upraisings. i wonder how long chavez can uphold this policy of his?
2) the very arrogant,snotty and at times very rude/ignorant behaviour of venezuelan " ladies": indeed fuck them! who the hell they hink they are??????????? 100 $ an hour??? yeah right! not even in your dreams baby.
3)venezuela doesn't appear to be a country were it's easy to invest nore it's easy to settle down and start a small business. (i have plans doing this....)

indeed in poland good and cheap hookers can be found. however it is a matter of personal taste. i personaly would prefer a latina any day over an eastern european women. unless of course she is a snotty,spoild rotten arrogant ***** from venezuela.

indeed after making a choice for the dr.....within a week i found myself chatting with 4 lovely gorgeous latinas from that lusty island!!

maybe end of august i will peep out for a week to croatia's coast....and i will see what the sight is there;-)

johan signing out.


[quote=tasty1]johann007:

i have not been to dr or honduras. so can't compare. out of all central/south america, venezuela was my least favorite for mongering. i got better and cheaper pussy in poland than in venezuela. see my poland posting. what a great experience in warsaw. screw (no pun intended) venezuela.[/quote]

I am coming to Venezuela this week. Looking forward to meeting some hot Venezuelan chicas. Heard great things about them. Variety is the spice of life.

I am travelling on business during week but will be in Caracas Saturday and Sunday AM.

Mongered in Russia, S Africa, Mexico, Peru and Argentina, Some spanish but not fluent.

The chase is half the fun !!!!!

What did I miss?

With all your reasons to NOT go to Venezuela,
what possible kind of reasons did you ever have
to go there in the first place and buy tickets just
to throw away 300Euro to not go?

Well ... I have to say, I've had some great experiences with the Venezolanas.

Between my travels to Maracaibo and Caracas, I've met some really cool chicas.
Have I met some arrogant princess types? ... sure but lots more sweet ones ... pros and non-pros.

I was just in Caracas last week ... great time!

I'm back again in 10 days ... can't wait!

I've been all over Central / South America ... the DR, Puerto Rico, Curacao, etc ... many times ... Venezuela for me is one of my favorite places.

I've made many friends ... chicas, both pro and non-pro ... and some cool guys too.

Don't let someone else's bad experience influence ya too much ....

Suerte!

yes you are right Bez...I fucked up.
I should have known.....stupid ME....:-(
O well....as one great French filosopher (i am blank on his name right now) once said "seulement cést d'argent"....it's only money;-)

ie it's not the end of the world.

I am allready enjoying my DR contacts;-) truly women...and no snotty attitudes..:-)

I stay away from venezuela as far as possible. If anyone else gets his rocks of there....congrats. But that country is definately NOT for me.
I allready mentioned MANY reasons NOT to go there. And for sure NOT to invest or retire/start small business there;-)

keep the faith,

Johan

[QUOTE=Bez Bezarra]What did I miss?

With all your reasons to NOT go to Venezuela,
what possible kind of reasons did you ever have
to go there in the first place and buy tickets just
to throw away 300Euro to not go?[/QUOTE]

Did Angelus on Friday night. Like standing in a football stadium surrounded by beautiful women. Both dine in and take out. Did dine in first night and take out the 2nd. Lots of silicone. No freebies to persuade you in bar area but good action in the back.

Have to admit the hottest girls I saw in Caracas were at Salsa bar on Saturday night. Not at Angelus.

On appearance and dancing ability I have to give Venezuelan women 3 thumbs up !!!

Anyone have the address and maybe some directions to get to Angelus. I will be in Caracas next week and will be staying at the Eurobuilding Radisson.

By the way, anyone know how girl friendly this hotel is, I am thinking about calling a couple of girls from sexycaracas.com for a hotel visit.

Thanks.

Frgethenam,

It is a chica friendly hotel, but you have to come down to the lobby to pick up your girl, because you need your room key to operate the elevator. I had called few times the sexycaracas.com chicas when I stayed in Eurobuilding, no problem at all.

Good luck,

Mark

Angelus ... ask for the centro comercial ... mall ... ´Bello Campo´.

It´s on the basement level.

PS ... I´m in Caracas now ... met the sweetest, beautiful morenita yesterday ... I´m in love again!

Met her in el Recreo ... a big mall ... wow!

Suerte!

Mark SOS and Ricker,

Thanks guys for the info.

Ricker,

I will be in Caracas on Wednesday through Saturday, if you're still there, maybe we can hook up for a beer and "sightseeing" (LOL) one night.

Well ... I'm in and out of Caracas all the time ... maybe someday we could hook up ... I have the new chica I met, meeting me for now ...

good luck out there!

What hotels are not girl friendly in Caracas? We haven't booked our hotel, and we are looking at the Hilton, Marriott, Raddison or Hotel Centro Lido Regency.... on and some places to go to pick up none working girls would be helpful also.

Thanks in advance.

[QUOTE=Draday97]What hotels are not girl friendly in Caracas? We haven't booked our hotel, and we are looking at the Hilton, Marriott, Raddison or Hotel Centro Lido Regency.... on and some places to go to pick up none working girls would be helpful also.

Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]


I stayed at Intercontinental in Mercedes and had no problem bringing a girl in. Note: security is pretty tight in hotels in Caracas due to crime problem.

I know this is not Poland forum but I like clean, shaved, good smelling, tanned pussy and Venezuela is just too complicated and hit and miss. IMHO, if heading to Venezuela, re-think your plan. I have had better looking maids in US than these chicls in Caracas.

With all due respect Tasty1 ................

Caracas and Venezuela in general has some of the hottest chicas on the face of the planet ...

"too complicated ... hit and miss" ... like you put it ...

If you visited Caracas and had that bad experience, you must have been doing something wrong.

The city has more hot chicas per square inch than any place I've ever seen ... and I've seen plenty.

EVERY place I have visited in Venezuela ... there are pro chicas sweet and beautiful.

The country may have political problems ... (and the USA doesn't? ... ha) ... you have to be carefull about the street crime ... but the Venezolanas ... the chicas ...

... are amazing!!!

[QUOTE=ChicagoBoy23]I stayed at Intercontinental in Mercedes and had no problem bringing a girl in. Note: security is pretty tight in hotels in Caracas due to crime problem.[/QUOTE]Thanks ChicagoBoy,

When you say that security is tight. Is that to say I may trouble getting girls to my room. The Intercontinental is booked. So we are looking at the other ones.

My friend,

I believe that you are misinformed about Venezuela. Although the political situation is problematical to say the least, it should not affect your mongering since you will most assuredly stay in the east of Caracas where we all live in a bubble. I do not agree that there will be uprisings etc since oil at USD sixty per barrel means that there is plenty of money around. I believe that Venezuelan girls, if well treated, compare favorably with any on the planet and if they are snooty they may be the exceptions, not the rule. Investing in Venezuela is a different issue and certainly do not consider this unless you have a local partner to show the ropes. Money and friends and sex can be found here if you have the attitude and the time.

Be safe
Be there

With all due respect to Johan who is a very respected "major" member of this board and huge contributor I have to agree %100 with Be There, Chicago Boy and Ricker!

I think you are short changing Venezuela! Venezuelan women are incredibly beautiful. The most beautiful women on the planet! All true.

Ricker said that "Venezuela has the most beautiful women per square inch than any other country on the planet", and I must say, I agree! :)

To trade in an experience in this lovely South American City because your "contacts" with Dominicanas have been positive and because the Dominican girls that you've written don't come across as snooty could be quite disappointing for you.

After 7 trips to that island paradise I know first hand that Dominican women are amazing salesman! They know what to say and they know how to say it to get what they want. I have often said that Dominicanas are born as natural "emprendedoras" (enterprising females) who can market themselves better than any women on the planet. They are taught (at a very young age) by their parents how best to "sell" themselves to touists and foreigners. In emails and on the phone they can be quite charming but inherently disingenuous.

Bad experiences with some Venezuelanas shouldn't turn a person off of the entire country or cause a person to cancel a trip.

my opinion, but Johan this is not meant to be a flame, just a difference of opinion. You are a respected member of this board who's opinion and views I trust!

cheers,
FORD

You can bring girls to your room without shakedown. You just have to meet girl in lobby. They are worried about crime (thiefs etc).

Awesome pool.

Dinky rooms.

Nice location.

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Venezuela is nice place. Don't know why somebody who has never visited there would bad mouth it. Oh well - thats the internet for you.

I've been to Venezuela and agree the chicas are something else.

BUT, Venezuela is a scary place and things can go crazy some times, or all the time. I've seen taxis where you can't open the door handles form the inside, taxis where all the control panel dials are missing, taxis with aC vented from the muffler for openers.

My clients have told me not to walk on the steets at night even next to upscale hotels. and to use only the chicas that frequent the hotel lobby and bars, or via a service.

Problems abound at the airport. The sign with your name may be copied by a crook who takes you out to the country to rob and kill. I ask for advance information as to who will pick me up and a photo of the driver.

Well, that's enough for today.

I recently visited Caracas (2 weeks ago), did some walking around at night in downtown area and never got the feeling that I was not safe. I think as longs as your careful and don't attract attention to yourself you will be alright in just about anyplace. Apart from that, the chicas in Caracas are gorgeous and sexy. I stayed at the Radisson Eurobuilding and had a great time with a couple of girls from sexycaracas.com (Mandi & Veruska) and a great night at Angelus (Thanks to Ricker for the directions)

Well I just got back from Venezuela ... it was horrible ...

All the chicas were ugly and every Venezolano I met tried to rob and kill me ...

NOT!!!!!!!!!!!

Great time again ... I have a girlfriend there now ... unbelievable chica ...
Can't wait to get back!

Like the Rastaman put it ... if you're afraid of it ... don't go.

The same horror stories of taxi driver ... robber / killers are all over S. America ... not just Caracas or Venezuela.

Take precautions ... have fun!

... by the way ...

I made a stop in Angelus while in Caracas ... the quality seemed to have dropped from what I've been used to there ... maybe I was just there on a bad night .... but also ...

A cab driver ... one that works out of the Angelus parking lot ... told me that the high quality chicas have migrated to a newer club called DIVAS ... located near Angelus.

Gotta check that out next time.

Suerte!

You are telling the true, right now Divas is getting a lot of fans, this is a strippers place, if you want to get more information please visit [url]www.divas.com.ve[/url]
the question is how much you are going to spend in a place like this.

Prosbocito

I prepared a map showing where are some of the Girls places around Sabana grande

Prosbocito

Here are the photos of:

HOTEL ARISTON: American Bar, Strippers shows.

EMBASSY: American Bar, practicaly all girls can speak english.

EL ENCUENTRO: American Bar.

MI FANTASIA: American Bar.

EL TIBURON: *****house, 20 to 30 girls.

CUATRICENTENARIO: *****house ask for the chicks at front desk.

HOTEL SAVA: *****house, 30 to 40 girls.

CAPRI CASANOVA: strippers place, 7 to 8 girls.

MAGNIFIQUE: Same owner of ANGELUS, 20 to 30 girls.

You are the man!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hi friends,

I'm quite new in the forum for Caracas, I have more experience in Eastern europe. Sorry for the poor quality of my english.

I'm coming on sunday to Caracas.

I would like to meet real model stile escort( 1,75, slim body, smiling face, great attitude). The quality I have seen in the indipendent part of sexicaracas is not that high.

Does someone hase experience in using Vipmaximo or Caracas al desnudo-vip page? The photos are real? Quality of service is good for the price?

Any place or suggestion to spit with me?

Tks so much in advance

Thanks Prosbocito.

Keep em coming, The map photos and names will come in very handy.

Divas, Caracas, Venezuela

This is my first posting on this site, so I’ll introduce myself before I describe Divas. I am an American who has lived in Caracas for three years. I like my girls immaculate, meaning gorgeous, with no or virtually no smell. Though I have visited many of the less pricey places mentioned on this board, I find that some of the girls at the lower end don’t take perfect care of themselves, so I pretty much stick to Angelus and Diva’s, with occasional visits to Morrison’s, Saxo, and Magnifique.

Divas is a new club, located in the upscale La Castellana area of Caracas (you can find directions at the club’s website). The owner is young, Canadian-educated, and speaks perfect English. He previously owned Fantasy’s and A.M.

Divas is by far the most upscale club in the city. The girls make good cash, so it has drawn many stars from Angelus and other clubs. Some of the girls are spectacular, most are good looking. The girls are charming and friendly without being overly aggressive. The main room is medium-sized, smaller than Saxo, larger than Magnifique, about the same size as Morrison’s.

The owner makes sure that at least one girl is always dancing, and employs a professional choreographer to keep the shows interesting in an arty way. Still, IMHO, it doesn’t compare with Angelus when girls are dancing on all seven poles.

The club has lap dance stalls, of course, and some very nice rooms in the back, decorated in an Arabian nights style, for longer sessions. These are far superior to the cramped, seedy rooms at Angelus, which have small beds, no ceiling, and security cameras overlooking each bed.

If money is not an issue, then Diva’s is the place to go, especially if you don’t want to bring a girl home or hassle with love hotels. If you’d rather take a girl home, the cost runs much higher than other clubs: $150 bar-fine per girl if you’re lucky, more likely $200. This compares with $60 or less at other clubs. (I think in terms of the Bs.2,500 black market rate.)

A final word of advice: Venezuela is a culture where a smile and a few friendly words go a long way in any situation. Taking the trouble to learn even a little Spanish and turning on the charm can get you a lot more than you paid for.

ever find yourself womanless or chemically unable to sleep at 5 a.m.? there are alternatives to going home and jerking off: after-hours clubs. these clubs cater to working women who want to wind down after a hard day's night. some of the girls are looking to pick up a little business, some just want to dance and have fun with their friends, and a few are willing to go home with you for free. don't be offended if you get the brush off. after-hours clubs are also great places to arrange to meet girls from strip clubs if you want to avoid the bar fine. men pay a cover of bs.10,000 or bs.20,000, but there are no bar fines. the clubs typically open at 3 a.m., but don't get going until after 5, when the strip clubs close. they're usually open until noon or later.

the mother of all after-hours clubs was a.m.. very upscale, it drew the best of the best, one stunner after another, and i stayed in touch with several girls i met there long after it closed. unfotunately, the authorities shut it down.

the best thing going now is the box. located on avenida casanova, very close to saxo and magnifique, it is "underground" and has no sign, but is identifiable by the small crowd around the door. one enters through a meter-high gap in a store-front shutter. can you say fire trap? as long as you can live with non-stop throbbing trance, the interior is alright. the crowd is rough, and there is a lot of coke snorting in the bathroom, but i've been there many times and never been hassled.

farther down avenida casanova is phenecia (or is it fenecia?). it has a proper front door, but the favorable comparisons with the box end there. same throbbing trance, but the crowd is very rough. there are a lot of male as well as female prostitutes. while drug use at the box is rep001tered and seems recreational, it is desperate at fenecia. someone slipped a friend of mine a mickey (i wasn't there at the time). as soon as he went down, a crowd pounced and got his cell phone, watch, and wallet. three other friends got him home. he was comatose for 10 hours. obviously i do not recommend the place!

Thanks for the DIVAs report ... I noticed definite quality reduction in Angelus on my last visit there a few weeks ago.

It's a shame because I really like the large floor area there and the shows like you mentioned.

Anyway ... I visited DIVAs a while back when it first opened ... seemed a little cramped ... I guess I was accustomed to Angelus.
I visited when they first opened, before they got the high quality chicas I've heard they have now.

Prob worth a second visit now.

I also heard from a couple of my friends that work at Angelus ... (guys) ... that another new place is opening soon ... I think they said it was called ... Bon Bons. More info later on that,

Suerte!

I hadn't heard, but I'll send a report as soon as I can. Any info you have would be helpful.

Responding to my review of Divas, an ISG member pm’d me asking if I thought there might be a club in Caracas that blows Divas, Angelus, and every other place discussed on this forum away. I’ve wondered the same thing ever since I got here. Half an hour in any shopping mall in the city, and you’ll see dozens of girls who would clean up in any pro joint. I used to live in Sao Paolo, and the cream there makes the best of Caracas look Bush League. I’m not knocking the pro Caraquenas, they’re fun, charming, sexy, and generally know when to back off. I just don’t want to give the impression that the scene here is world class.

That said, let’s move on to the rankings.

1. Angelus – enormous for a strip joint, it features five dance stages on three levels, with a total of seven poles. All are visible from every vantage point in the club, the highest through plexiglass from underneath! The three poles on the center stage are 20-25 feet high. The dancers perform some truly amazing acrobatics on these, risking injury from falls (one did hurt herself seriously during one of my visits). When Angelus’ show goes full on, it is a breathtaking spectacle. You’re sure to see a full show at midnight on weekends.

The quality of the girls on average has declined in recent months, but there are so many of them that you’re bound to find a few pearls. The two best looking pro-club ladies that I’ve come across in Caracas are still at Angelus.

Bar fines (“bottles of champagne”) are on the high side. The barmen will ask for as much as Bs. 200k per girl, but try to get it down to Bs. 120k. They’ll offer you different levels of champagne, but take the cheapest. Once the girls are out, they’re out. I usually pay the girls for two hours, because they’ll often settle in for the night, especially if they don’t have kids. This runs up to Bs. 200k depending on the girl.

There are some rooms, stalls really, in the back, for full on-site service. They are cramped, separated by thin boards, and have small beds, each overlooked by a security camera, very seedy and not to my taste.

I’ve taken slept with about 10 girls from Angelus, with many repeats, and have had nothing but positive experiences.

For the show, the variety of girls, and the price, Angelus is still my #1.

2. Divas – I wrote extensively about Divas in a prior posting. While the girls are better on average than Angelus, the artsy show, small size of the club, and outrageous prices don’t measure up. Still, it’s head and shoulders above #3. I’ve also slept with about ten girls from Divas and its predecessors and had nothing but good experiences with them as well.

3. Saxo – To be fair, I’ve only gone to Saxo in the wee hours, when things are winding down. It’s second in size to Angelus (and has the same owner), but with only one level I can’t see the shows being nearly as good. I’ve always found a chica worth leaving with though, at prices similar to Angelus. It’s in a dangerous area, but the doorman will find you a safe cab.

4. Magnifique – The most down-market of the five listed here, you can nonetheless always find a pearl or two. Prices are a bit lower than Angelus. It’s the smallest and most crowded club listed here, sometimes hard to find a seat. The show is run-of-the-mill. It’s around the corner from Saxo, and the doorman will also find you a safe cab. I’ve had two bad experiences from Magnifique, a cokehead who slipped away with my watch, and a girl who was not up to my standards of cleanliness.

5. Morrisons – Way past its heyday, this place always annoys me. I only go when I want to avoid seeing girls I know at other clubs, and because it’s down the street from my main non-pro spots. The “champagne” system is more complicated than a 1040 and amounts to management trying to control what the girl does with you once she’s out. Fuck that! I haven’t seen a girl worth the trouble there in a long time anyway, really. There are on-site rooms, but I’ve never tried them. The show is usually mediocre, at times pathetic. Despite its reputation and convenient location, don’t bother with this place.

I’ve been to 5 or 6 down-market places for one-time visits, not really my thing, so I won’t comment much on them. I’ve had bad experiences at two of them, one with management grossly inflating the bill (can’t remember the name), another with a girl whose crotch stench might as well have been the Berlin Wall (the Capri Casanova). I am curious about trying the Embassy: Prospocito’s listing mentions that the girls there speak English, which is a rarity. Also looking forward to following up on Ricker’s tip about Bon Bons.

Don’t bother looking for streetwalkers. They exist, but the authorities vigorously and for the most part successfully keep things indoors.

Coming soon: A 2 or 3 part review of non-pro spots and prospects.

Gringocaraca,

Very good posts! I lived in Caracas for three years (96/99) so I know my way around, although some of the places you report about didn t exist at that time...
I was travelling to Cuba then whenever I could so I was not very familiar with the pro scene there, but apparently I missed a lot! I remember though that fitness centers were perfect places to meet girls, pro and non pro. Speaking spanish was a must!

I am thinking of going to Caracas in December, so here are a few questions I hope an expert like you will be able to answer >

I don t like the idea of having sex at the club s premises...is it possible to get the girl s mobile number and call her the day after? in fact, I am friends with the manager of a four star hotel where I stayed at for a while, so to bring a girl there would not be a problem.

Last year I made a three day stop in Caracas on my way to Brazil and I got the impression that caraquenas became addicted to silicone...and I can t stand enhanced tits! Do I have a good chance of falling in with slim big natural titted girls? what is your assessment?

Thanks in advance

Tavares,

It is very possible to get cell numbers and call the next day, if fact I should have recommended that in my post. Many of the girls are delighted to get a night off from the club, as long as they get what they would have earned hustling drinks and doing lap dances, which isn't a lot. If you find one you like, invite her to the beach. If she likes you, you'll get far more than you pay for.

Tons of silicon here at all social levels, and I don't like it either. Some of the work is very shoddy. All I can say is keep your eyes open, it's usually not hard to tell.

Happy hunting,

Gringo

like most latinas, caraquenas of all classes are outgoing and friendly. if approached in a confident, respectful manner, they’ll generally give you a shot for at least a minute or two. if you see a girl who’s with a guy but not hanging all over him, they’re probably not a couple. it is perfectly acceptable to approach them and read the situation. don’t expect a 100% kill rate, just relax and enjoy.

two factors have the greatest effect on the speed with which the panties come off: social class of the girl (the lower the quicker) and your level of spanish. if you’re visiting and don’t speak any spanish, unless you’re a very good looking guy, count on several days working a well-educated girl with no certain pay off. two other factors are your willingness and ability to dance salsa & merengue and your apparent wealth. i’m assuming most guys reading this can pay for dates without grousing. but, if money is your only game, go straight to a pro establishment. don’t worry if you can’t dance. it helps, but it’s not crucial. a cell phone will come in very handy.

shopping malls are a great place to start. i recommend centro comercial el recreo or cc sambil. you’ll see a wide variety of shapes, sizes, ages, and social classes in both. caraquenas are exceptionally hot and sexy, and they like to show it when they shop. sales girls and customers are easy to approach. cc santa fe, el tolon, and paseo las mercedes are also worthwhile, but are smaller and generally limited to higher classes. you can also stroll down la sabana grande, a walking street filled with shops, cafes, and street vendors. it’s become shabby, so don’t stay alone after the vendors shut down and don’t walk west of plaza venezuela.

though the rumbas don’t get started until around 11, there are plenty of places to have a drink early in the evening. sitting at a café in sabana grande watching the talent walk by can be a pleasure. safer after 9 or so are the sidewalk bars in las mercedes: la cueva del oso, wassup, and trenchtown to name a few. a little spot across from el tolon is very popular (i don’t know its name). lots of young hotties at all the places i’ve mentioned, but probably a waste of time for older guys unless you just want to enjoy the eye candy.

there must be hundreds of salsa & meringue clubs in the city. el mani in el bosque is widely regarded as the s&m club with the best live bands. while i’m not much of a dancer, i like the place because it is one of the few clubs in the city where different social classes mix with ease. the area is a little rough, so you might want to make arrangements with a cab driver to take you home in advance. a great place to pick up if you can dance, worth the cultural experience if you can’t.

the majority of mid- to down-scale clubs that i’m familiar with play mixes of s&m, reggaeton, rock, and electronica with a little hip hop thrown in. they all seem pretty much the same to me. youngish crowds, cheap but strong drinks, very receptive chicas, some hot, some not. i’ve been to a few in rough parts of town, but only under the protection of venezuelan friends. there is no reason for a visitor to venture out of las mercedes to find this kind of spot. like i said, they all seem the same to me, so you can pick one at random and have a good time. the beer station and u bar are always packed. maroma is popular with an older crowd. for details and more options, check rumbacaracas.com, a great source of information on events, clubs, bars, and restaurants in the eastern half of the city.

if you’re an electronica fan, try elmo in las mercedes, just around the corner from texaco. the crowd is young and a little druggy. not a great spot for chicas, but alright on a good night.

la belle epoque in bello monte is in a somewhat rougher neighborhood, but it’s unique in caracas and worth a stop. it will appeal to many younger guys and older guys with a sense of adventure. ages range from 18-50, with guys tending to be older. in a culture that seems very conformist to a northern eye, la belle is a breath of fresh air. along with el mani, it is one of the few night spots in town where different classes mix. the main room always has live local acts, many of them very good. depending on the night, you might hear acid jazz, all sorts of world music, reggae, rock, and fusions of latin with many types of music. a must for the music aficionado. the second room used to be all chill-out with visuals. the last time i went though, it was s&m, an unfortunate switch. the back room is trance. the place starts slow, but is packed by 2. it closes at 6 a.m., an hour or more later than most spots. la belle is one of the few places in town that charges a cover (bs. 10,000). surprisingly, the chicas aren’t as hot or as receptive as a lot of run-of-the-mill spots, but they’re not bad either. drinks are a little more expensive.

coming soon – parts 2 and 3: upscale caracas and the beach scene

Always check the sexycaracas website when I go to Caracas on business... Every time I go I spend at least one hour with thich chick Marylin. She is listed in the independent ladies section.

I met her 3 years ago when she worked for a studio and ever since got hooked. She is not tall, but has a sumptuous ass and great tits - silicone though.

She is very hardcore, outgoing, chatty, does not speak english - at least I think so - but is so fun to be with that I do not think it will be a problem.

I try to have different girls, but every time I go back they are out of the business, but this girl is always there and always willing.

Besides her, I recommend contacting the Exotic rose agency, the girls are very well mannered, very professional, but also fun to be with, their prices are a bit steep, but in March I spent 2 hours with a beautiful young girl, who was just starting in the business - I was her first - and man, was she fun.

Hope this helps, have fun and remember to wear your condom.

Gringocaraca ...

You sure make a nice report ... muchas gracias ... looking forward to your upcoming reports too.

As far as getting tel. numbers from the chicas de Angelus, etc. ... I do it all the time ... I've had several "girlfriends" from Angelus doing this.
Outside the club .... it's much easier to relax with the chica ... and like you said Gringocaraca ... it's fairly easy to do ... but much much easier, obviously if you speak espanol ... almost essential at least basic ability.

Also ... I like this salsa club that is located down in the parking garage very near to Angelus.

I'll make a stop in there sometimes to have a drink and check out the chicas before heading to Angelus.
I've ended up meeting chicas there a couple times and never making it to Angelus ... which is OK too.

Well, thankfully, I'm heading back to Caracas next week again ... not for mongering this time though.

I met a really hot / sweet chica in the el Recreo mall a month or so ago ... last week we explored a little German town outside Caracas called Colonia Tolvar and the beaches to the east of Caracas ...

This time heading to Maracay and then to the coast towards Puerto Cabello.

Should be fun ... nothing like hanging out with a new chica and feeling the "love".

Suerte!

Hey Cunni...

Do you pay that 250,000 Bol. she lists as her price for service?

Seems kinda steep but maybe you get the repeat client discount ... espero que si amigo.

Suerte!

Ricker, I do not ask for the discount. If you think what these ladies are earning with their jobs I am more than willing to pay that price.

In Europe a chick like would cost 3 to 4 times as much and maybe not that fun. I pay what they ask for, do not bargain and enjoy the evening.