Rio de Janeiro Reports

[QUOTE=Bravo;1277365]Back in the day, I would tip the cleaning woman 5R and she would give us an extra 20 minutes in the room before she called the desk. I had never heard of that until a girl told me to do it. I guess the GDP liked me and wanted to spend extra time fucking without me having to pay for it. Very nice thing for her to do! I wonder if that would still work.[/QUOTE]I always tip the cleaning ladies picking up the towels and robes and generally keeping the place in order, including the rooms. I'm happy to tip them, but not some clown standing there looking sanctimonious with his hand out who hasn't done much of squat for me or anybody else in attendance at the terma. They get nothing. I also don't mind buying the girls a drink here or there, or something to eat if we're both hungry. But I don't pay for "extras" like pictures or otherwise tip for services rendered in the cabine.

[QUOTE=Kid Cisco; 1277454]Eric,

I too have lived around the world for the Military and on Government jobs and was a expat as a matter of fact I was able to hang out with a few guys that was in my unit a month ago that have since moved and retire in Brazil many have made Rio their home and got married and some have had kids many will go months or even years without going to any type of Termas, private apts, VM or seeing escorts you name it (the ONLY time some of them go to a Termas is when a old friend come to town) the bottom line they don't have to they are busy with a social life going to movies, beaches and malls and dinners working out at the gym etc. Etc. And they still have and find time to date and see many girls without having to go to the Termas or paying them to be with them ...

... The bottom line Eric maybe it could be the guys you hanging around with? If all they do is see hookers and monger all the time and don't do anything different or talk about anything different you can find yourself getting caught up in ONLY dealing with that type of life style. Try meeting guys that are into sports or working out or doing something besides seeing hookers and then maybe you will meet women that will turn you on to females that you don't have pay to spend time with you.

... I kknew guys when I was station in Hawaii that all they did was go to work and go back to the ship and sleep or when they did go out they just went out to drink or to get drunk and when they got pay visit a massage parlor to get jack off or get some pussy. I lived off base in nice part of town in a Condo and had fun taking classes and dating different types of girls from Japanese, Korean, etc. Etc. Trying new food you name it I had a blast for almost 10 years I didn't have time to get lonely those 10 years went by fast.

I am not trying to tell you what to do or do I know it all I am just giving you some different options that worked for me and what I seen work for different other guys before you know it you will be in your late 40's 50's and then 60's and you don't want to be one of those old broken down mongers you see in the back of Balcony Bar chasing 21 year old hookers complaining she want to charge you 400 reals for 30 mins or how she won't allow you to kiss her on her mouth or lick her pussy or how she made you wear a rubber to suck your dick and how she rush you to cum so she can leave etc. You sound like a nice guy you just have to change your hunting grounds to somewhere with better options that will work better for you.

I am not saying mongering is wrong or anything because, I enjoy fucking hot Brazilian girls and Latina's chicks and don't mind paying for it so I am a monger too BUT I still have a normal life with a lady in my life as well and monger from time to time or when I am on a trip for a few weeks along with seeing non hookers I met online, or at the mall at leaving or coming into my apt building (I even hook up with this chick that work at one of the buffet lines I was going to almost each afternoon for lunch) I slip her my number and she called me when she got off work.

Working out at the gym can help you with that work stress so you can relax.

Good luck,

Kid Cisco[/QUOTE]I like this perspective.

And God help me if I become a broken down monger, begging for a BBBJ for 400R :)

I've evolved to spending more time with real life namorada and a part time monger, when the need for strange arrises :)

How you came to this agency or GP, or how you found the advertisement,

After my Massagem Tijuca / Bia TD (numero 6 of this trip?) , I took a bus labeled leblon PUC. It cost 2. 5R. Along the way, passed Samba drome, Flumeniese soccer club, Copacobana, Ipanema, Leblon. It's the best tour of Rio for the $2. 5 reias. Fight inflation.

Took buses and metro back through Botofogo (local sex motels are Panda and Bambina). Considered going to the Playboy party at passionlounge, as I wrote in earlier TD.

On the way back to my sex motel, I see Tamy Moricet of Karla Models in the same street. Not a surprise, as Karla used to right in the 'hood. Failed to say high, would you be open to taking it up the ass a bit?

Laying on bed, saving up vital fluids for Mosaico after midnight, glad I passed on passoinlounge, as I doubt the Playboy bunny would fuck me for 90$R.

Mosaico, after midnight evening of 4/19, I guess that makes it 4/20.

The girl is Vivian.

What was the date of DT,

Evening after midnight of 4/19 Rio Monger Standard Time.

What was the period (Morning, Afternoon, Night or Dawn) in qo Attendance occurred;

Night.

How was the 'Pre-Service';

Sucked. This girl is one hardened or stoned out or both garota. I noticed her on first Mosaico trip because she has a great bunda, a Mayara Rodrigues shaped bunda and body with tits about the same size, and an bunda that is smaller, but hard on two sets of muscled, toned, perfectly tanned legs.

But she's probably as mentally alert as Mayara is.

If the model was punctual;

No. I get the cabine. She goes and kind of wastes some time for 5 minutes. But you know, my expectations were low.

If the same person matches the photo,

No fotos. And she didn't allow any.

If you found her beautiful body / face,

Her face: 7.

Her bunda: 10.

Her buceta (pussy) : 10.

Her little, petite Brasilian tits: 10.

Report occurred in the program:

Covered blow job. Buzz Kill, but I expected poor service. Great covered blow job. Go to 69, and wow what a sight. Brazilian porn come to life.

The 69 alone was worth the 90$R for the half hour.

Gi quatro (doggy) , long slow (devagar) fucking for 10 minutes. Her pussy muscles were strong and she could pretty much stroke cock at will.

Licked that cuzinha (asshole) also worth the 90$R.

Go for the anal, and she denies the goal. Buzz kill, but you know, I expected it. Lots of pig portugese about gelado or something.

No worries, only a few times in life can you fuck a girl this hot. She rides me cowgirl, which is really good. I get on top of her, and I am sweating, and there is no towel in the room. So, mid coitus, she heads out in the hall and asks for a towel. Buzz kill and wood kill again. I mean, I am standing there with a hard on, and she is out in the hall for 2 minutes hunting down a towel. Of course, she knows what she is doing, and so do I.

Anyway, she comes back, and I have her sit on my face until I get some wood again. She likes getting her pierced clit sucked, not a big surprise. That pussy tasted good.

Get back in doggy and slowly enjoy the last 10 minutes of the session, finish off staring down at a perfect, brown bunda, with bikini markings, and a sadly unfucked asshole.

08. 1) If the restriction on the GP did mouth kissing,

Kissed on mouth, briefly.

08. 2) Oral with or without coat, and it was 'complete';

Covered Blow Job.

*

08. 3) if it is tasteful or bureaucratic,

Bureaucratic, but I knew it would be. There was no chemistry in the tudo bom interview, but I had to have that bunda gi quatro in front of me, and I did.

08. 4) If complete, the anal rolled smoothly;

Nope.

08. 5) Weakness and strengths according to their viewpoint;

Weaknesses: Pretty much all the service.

Good point: Pretty much her whole body.

08. 6) if the mobile was switched off or inaudible;

No mobile.

08. 7) If it was strictly with the agreed time;

Yep. 30 minutes. 90R. Girls in the hall got a show.

08. 8) What is the time value of X Service;

30 minutes. 90R.

08. 9) If it was in Hotel / Motel period, amount and location of it and whether it is worth returning, and in Privê cite the site (only the name of Street / District) is located in qo even if everything went well during their stay there and other impressions most q deems necessary and reasonable.

Mosaico is a piece of work. I got there at 11:15. The place really gets rolling at about 1 AM. I fucked this particular girl, Vivian, at 12:10.

The entrada is 20$R, you get a little card with a number. For that card, you get at least 3 drinks. I always drink water. I had 3 waters.

In order to get a cabine within a few minutes of when you get your interview, you have to session early, by which I mean Midnight. Otherwise, there will be a line of dudes and their chosen lover leading up to the cashier booth on the first floor where you pay your $90R for 30 minutes, or $R160 for 60 minutes.

You walk up a flight of stairs with your receipt. You give the receipt to the cabine control girl, and get a key for a cabine on the 2nd floor or the 3d floor. The rooms are actually fine, good matresses, and the tiles work well. No showers in the rooms unlike 4x4.

What is the actual age reported by GP;

She was maybe 25.

Is answered with professionalism and with liberality;

Professional mind fucking, game playing, bureaucratic, but the body especially the ass is what I wanted.

Finally a summary stating whether you think q worth the Program, if you want to repeat and some additional tips for q we can do well in the program with it.

Yeah, you know, I would probably repeat because the sight of that bunda is a bucket list sight to behold. My bucket list has one item on it, about 1000 times.

To inform everybody that the phone contact the GP or the Agency;

Go to Mosaico. They may have phones there, but no ones eardrums work while that place is in operation.

How you came to this agency or GP, or how you found the advertisement,

4/20 Mosaico, Raicca.

Morena, dancer,

What was the date of DT,

What was the period (Morning, Afternoon, Night or Dawn) in qo Attendance occurred;

11:30.

How was the 'Pre-Service';

Fast at opening.

If the model was punctual;

If the same person matches the photo,

None.

If you found her beautiful body / face,

Face: 9.

Body: 9.

Ass: 9.

Report occurred in the program:

All covered, no anal, all positions. For 90$R worth it for the quality of the girl.

08. 1) If the restriction on the GP did mouth kissing,

No restriction.

08. 2) Oral with or without coat, and it was 'complete';

Did not try.

*

08. 3) if it is tasteful or bureaucratic,

Hot.

08. 4) If complete, the anal rolled smoothly;

No.

08. 5) Weakness and strengths according to their viewpoint;

Weaknesses: no anal, no BBBJ.

Good point: bod and face.

08. 6) if the mobile was switched off or inaudible;

Sw8tcyed off.

08. 7) If it was strictly with the agreed time;

Yes, we got the whole 30 which we spent fucking.

08. 8) What is the time value of X Service;

90R for 30 minus.

08. 9) If it was in Hotel / Motel period, amount and location of it and whether it is worth returning, and in Privê cite the site (only the name of Street / District) is located in qo even if everything went well during their stay there and other impressions most q deems necessary and reasonable.

Definitely going back to mosaico.

What is the actual age reported by GP;

21.

Is answered with professionalism and with liberality;

Liberality.

Finally a summary stating whether you think q worth the Program, if you want to repeat and some additional tips for q we can do well in the program with it.

Got her number. She wants 200$R for hour, R$250 for 1. 5 hours, and so on.

Had another TD later that night, about 4 AM. I recommend avoiding Mosaico this late into the night because of at least a 30 minute delay between getting your ticket and starting the session. In the waiting time, you're in the boate with the girl amid blaring music making any talking impossible. I do recommend making your list of favorites, probably from the dancers from 1-3 AM, and then spotting them as soon as they enter the club at 11:30 to midnight, and sessioning right away. Pig porto gringo does not work with Mr. Catra music at 10, 000 decibels. But, for 90$R a shot for 30 minutes, or R160 for 60 minutes, you can maybe hit a Tier 2 Terma girl for a 30% to 50% discount.

You're always risking that the girl lies to you in the interview and gives you a bad session, but at Mosaico you are risking 90R+20R, in 4x4 you are risking 220R, and in Tier1 Termas whatever the ask is. In the prives you're risking the 60R+30R.

Saw Adriana Porto of Scortshow coming into my motel while I was heading out. She quoted 400R for pernoite. Scortshow is in Flamego / Largo do Machado. She asked if I remembered her real name, and, to my surprise, I did. Got her number.

How you came to this agency or GP, or how you found the advertisement,

Repeat, Natasha, Anne's Massagem.

What was the date of DT,

Saturday. 3:40 PM.

What was the period (Morning, Afternoon, Night or Dawn) in qo Attendance occurred;

How was the 'Pre-Service';

Great.

If the model was punctual;

Yep.

If the same person matches the photo,

Yep.

If you found her beautiful body / face,

Safada in a dirty blond way.

Report occurred in the program:

Great BBBJ, all anal 40 minute program. Charged an extra 10 minutes for 10$R because I went over. A few BBBJs between anal banging.

08. 1) If the restriction on the GP did mouth kissing,

No restrictions.

08. 2) Oral with or without coat, and it was 'complete';

*

08. 3) if it is tasteful or bureaucratic,

Good.

08. 4) If complete, the anal rolled smoothly;

Straight to the A.

08. 5) Weakness and strengths according to their viewpoint;

Strength: Repeating gets better.

Weakness: Nada.

08. 6) if the mobile was switched off or inaudible;

Nada.

08. 7) If it was strictly with the agreed time;

Yep.

08. 8) What is the time value of X Service;

40 minutes for 60R+20R anal + 10 for extra time.

08. 9) If it was in Hotel / Motel period, amount and location of it and whether it is worth returning, and in Privê cite the site (only the name of Street / District) is located in qo even if everything went well during their stay there and other impressions most q deems necessary and reasonable.

Repeat with Natasha, but other girls don't do it for me.

What is the actual age reported by GP;

24.

Is answered with professionalism and with liberality;

Very liberal.

Finally a summary stating whether you think q worth the Program, if you want to repeat and some additional tips for q we can do well in the program with it.

Repeat, yep

How you came to this agency or GP, or how you found the advertisement,

Massagemtijuca, Monday 23 April, Michele.

What was the date of DT,

What was the period (Morning, Afternoon, Night or Dawn) in qo Attendance occurred;

1 PM.

How was the 'Pre-Service';

Fine.

If the model was punctual;

Yes.

If the same person matches the photo,

No fotos on net,

If you found her beautiful body / face,

Face: 8.

Body: 8.

Report occurred in the program:

BBBJ. 69, gi quatro, anal brief, several positions, finish gi quatro.

08. 1) If the restriction on the GP did mouth kissing,

Yes.

08. 2) Oral with or without coat, and it was 'complete';

BBBJ.

*

08. 3) if it is tasteful or bureaucratic,

Bureaucratic.

08. 4) If complete, the anal rolled smoothly;

Not long.

08. 5) Weakness and strengths according to their viewpoint;

Strength: her looks, real rack.

08. 6) if the mobile was switched off or inaudible;

Inaudivel.

08. 7) If it was strictly with the agreed time;

Yep.

08. 8) What is the time value of X Service;

70 + 30 completa for 40 minutes.

08. 9) If it was in Hotel / Motel period, amount and location of it and whether it is worth returning, and in Privê cite the site (only the name of Street / District) is located in qo even if everything went well during their stay there and other impressions most q deems necessary and reasonable.

Fine.

What is the actual age reported by GP;

25.

Is answered with professionalism and with liberality;

Professional.

Finally a summary stating whether you think q worth the Program, if you want to repeat and some additional tips for q we can do well in the program with it.

Maybe a dupla with bia.

Need to be early

Gents, I am sick of the whining. I expect some good pix. Get off at Galeon, take cab to Estacio, stow your stuff in Malaga, recon Mosaico, Massagem Tijuca, Anne's, Mix Massagem. Then work your way up the economic ladder on the other end of the metro line. Write good reports, and get some good pictures!

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Gents, I am sick of the whining. I expect some good pix. Get off at Galeon, take cab to Estacio, stow your stuff in Malaga, recon Mosaico, Massagem Tijuca, Anne's, Mix Massagem. Then work your way up the economic ladder on the other end of the metro line. Write good reports, and get some good pictures!

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Gents, I am sick of the whining. I expect some good pix. Get off at Galeon, take cab to Estacio, stow your stuff in Malaga, recon Mosaico, Massagem Tijuca, Anne's, Mix Massagem. Then work your way up the economic ladder on the other end of the metro line. Write good reports, and get some good pictures!

With a nod to 'hem. The Short Happy Life of Francis Macomber.

Mine's a tale that can't be told,

My freedom I hold dear;

How years ago in days of old.

When magic filled the air,

'Twas in the darkest depths of Mordor.

I met a girl so fair.

But Gollum, and the evil one crept up.

And slipped away with her.

Ramble on

What is the best night / evening at 4x4?

Is it still Thursday nights from about 6pm. 12 Midnight?

Best night to go is when you have cash in your pocket. On a serious note, I would avoid Fridays because many locals get paid and the place gets packed. However, some people may actually enjoy this type of scene. I personally don't. If you do go on a Friday, go early. Enjoy!

Forced myself to break my streak of doing nothing and popped into MC the other night. Probably 65%+ new faces, several doable. Not 8s mind you but reasonable enough though perhaps not a T1 terma prices. Ended up with a 21 year-old blone tiny thing (I'm on a half my age kick). R$375 all in including my bottled water. (No entrada due to loyalty program). Performance was adequate. Had I just come from the US, I would have been really happy. Here, it was like sort of 6/10. Not nasty enough for the Cartman LOL.

I should have gone with Hannah who was back. I just felt like I should try someone new.

Are there any english speaking girls. If so what areas might they be in?

[QUOTE=Jay Streets;1279214]Are there any english speaking girls. If so what areas might they be in?[/QUOTE]
None at all, the english language is banned in Brazil.
(Btw, Bubba Boy specially asked for us not post comments/questions in his Bubba Boy's Rio Guide thread. We should respect that.)

It's interesting how after traveling to Rio or anywhere in Brasil for that matter, one evolves through their experiences. I specifically avoid women that speak English. I avoid them like the plague.

[QUOTE=Jay Streets;1279214]Are there any english speaking girls. If so what areas might they be in?[/QUOTE]But only for people who do more than ask if there are any English Speaking girls on every forum thread.

[QUOTE=Chercheur;1277468][url]http://globotv.globo.com/rede-globo/jornal-nacional/v/imagens-mostram-flagrantes-de-prostituicao-infantil-e-trafico-de-drogas-em-copacabana/1921895/[/url][/QUOTE]Thanks for posting, very interesting, looks like they are building another case to clean up another corner.

[QUOTE=Mangera;1279287]It's interesting how after traveling to Rio or anywhere in Brasil for that matter, one evolves through their experiences. I specifically avoid women that speak English. I avoid them like the plague.[/QUOTE]Depending on their ulterior motives English speaking Garotas can be a blessing. Sure they come in all shapes and sizes. I have met the ones who told me I hate you guys who speak Portuguese and others who I have spoken to for hours that never told me they were fluent in English and when I asked them later they just told me you didn't seem to have a problem in Portuguese. Happens all the time, they're not all Piranhas just because they can speak English but of course some of them are. I would never turn down a beautiful bucetta just because her owner can speak English or any other language for that matter.

I was planned to do Rio in July but my Corp made adjustment to my vacation schedule because they decided to send me to London in early July before the Olympic wingding. However, I was fortunate enough to get a two weeks' vacation by next week. I changed my travel dates with TAM and they hit me with a whopping $350 fare difference, and charged me a total of $1385 for rt. Trip (nonstop) from US. I rented my last apartment in Rio thru an old contact. The Copacabana hotel, located next to Rio Sul mall, is offering a great deal of $17 / night. On the other hand, Hotel Vina Del Mar, located between Flamengo and Centro, and reasonably priced at $67 / night. Did anyone had any experience with this hotel?

[QUOTE=Chercheur;1277468][url]http://globotv.globo.com/rede-globo/jornal-nacional/v/imagens-mostram-flagrantes-de-prostituicao-infantil-e-trafico-de-drogas-em-copacabana/1921895/[/url][/QUOTE]I bet the residents nearby wants to clean to area for safety, as well as to maximize the value of their property. Balcony spot get openly loud at night, and scenery resembles a cage free zoo.

I formed a budget strategy for future vacations, particularly Rio. I have prepared a anticipated expense report based on (1$US = R$1. 9) , for a 10 days trip to Rio. This includes six Terma runs. 4 agency outcall, and three prives incall. Furthermore, it contain cab fares (airports, termas, etc) .2- 3 drinks in Termas, as well as extras (if any). In addition, I bash into Luomo at 7pm (50% off entrada) , MC on Tuesday (R$80 off entrada) , and 4 x 4 at 8pm after a late afternoon snooze. I will try to crash into Balcony 2x or 3x, if I revive anything by squeezing the budget.

Good for you that you enjoy English speaking brazilian gdp's. I am glad you find them to your liking. However, from my own personal experiences I have determined that the more English a gdp knows, the more likely she is to be jaded. After all, most of them have learned English from being with so many gringos. Of course there are some exceptions. I'm going by the numbers and / or percentages from my own experiences. Its best for me to avoid them. This has worked excellent for me. I also have other factors which I view as a red flag. This criteria has also worked in many other countries I have visited. To each his own. There is not one method or style that is universal when it comes to this game. Again, this is just a way of thingking that has worked for me.

The majority of English brazilian speaking women I have choosen to spend time with have been non-gdps. I have dated a hand full of them, but they learned English because they attended private schools growing up. But as for non-pros, thats a whole different ball game. I can defend myself speaking basic portuguese, so as I mentioned earlier. I prefer to deal with gdp's who speak little or no English whatsoever, regardless of the country I visit. I am not losing out on anything because luckily there is so much T & A in Brazil. Its all good! There is plenty to go around.

4X4's finest.

Learning English is a sign of upward mobility. Two observations from this proposition:

1. The most upwardly mobile brasileiras may also express the upward aspiration by giving the gringo the best sexo in order to get you as a husband. I had this twice in the past. Those two women were the best sex out of 174 cariocas. I am attaching pix of #2. #1 is an Italian-Brazilian woman who gave me 5 pernoites.

2. As a gringo, besides the obvious (cash) , you do have something to offer, learning some English. How many English teaching signs do you see within 500 meters of Monte Carlo? Put some english language content on your iTunes on your laptop and offer some free lessons between fucking in the sex motel. After 5 minutes, she may lose interest and click on Rihanna, but I've had some fun times listening to English language with a naked, top GDP in my apartment for hours on some of those diarias.

That bunda, by the way, was asking 450R for 2H, and 950R pernoite, last time I was in RJ, and I declined. She's one of two cariocas, I'll not forget.

Ella baila la portugueza.

Estoy llamando a todas las morenas.

Y las llamada la viene the la luz.

Con calma se baila esta danza.

Y con amor canto yo esta cancion.

Africa bamba ase a un lado a la tristeza.

Y otra mas dulce no la podras encontrar.

[QUOTE=Mangera; 1279584]Good for you that you enjoy English speaking brazilian gdp's. I am glad you find them to your liking. However, from my own personal experiences I have determined that the more English a gdp knows, the more likely she is to be jaded. After all, most of them have learned English from being with so many gringos. Of course there are some exceptions. I'm going by the numbers and / or percentages from my own experiences. Its best for me to avoid them. This has worked excellent for me. I also have other factors which I view as a red flag. This criteria has also worked in many other countries I have visited. To each his own. There is not one method or style that is universal when it comes to this game. Again, this is just a way of thingking that has worked for me.

The majority of English brazilian speaking women I have choosen to spend time with have been non-gdps. I have dated a hand full of them, but they learned English because they attended private schools growing up. But as for non-pros, thats a whole different ball game. I can defend myself speaking basic portuguese, so as I mentioned earlier. I prefer to deal with gdp's who speak little or no English whatsoever, regardless of the country I visit. I am not losing out on anything because luckily there is so much T & A in Brazil. Its all good! There is plenty to go around.[/QUOTE]

Many brazilians have studied some English in school. Often just for a very short period. The teaching isn't very good, they don't practise and end up with almost no real knowledge of speaking English. The average brazilian don't really have the need for speaking English. More educated brazilians often speak English.

If you meet regular girls with some higher level of education there are good chances of her speaking English. English learnt at university or some language school like Fisk etc.
If your social contacts are limited to Balcony and termas you'll also meet a few girls that have some very basic English. English learnt in between sucking gringo d*cks.
If you meet piranhas that speaks English there should be some warning bell ringing. They propably have gringo-experiences. Experiences with gringos that don't speak Portuguese. Most likely with newbies who might have spoilt them.

Personally I don't care so much if the brazilian girls I meet speak English or not. We usually end up speaking Portuguese anyway. English isn't my native language and my Portuguese is most likely better than her English.

For the gringo who just goes for a two week mongering-trip to Rio it shouldn't be a problem if the girls doesn't speak English. If he intends to stay for a longer period or to come back repeatedly it should be in his interest to learn Portuguese. That will also open much wider possibilities to get laid with pro's or regular girls.

[QUOTE=ChrisDrug;1279567]The Copacabana hotel, located next to Rio Sul mall, is offering a great deal of $17 / night.[/QUOTE]
R$17/night (or US$17)? I highly doubt that.

[QUOTE=Sperto;1279712]R$17/night (or US$17)? I highly doubt that.[/QUOTE]I was talking about CabanaCopa hostel, near Rio Sul Mall. The hostelbookers. Com web is offering $17 / night, with descent rooms. It's a descent spot if down here for a weekend. [url]http://www.hostelbookers.com/property/prp/44464/arr/2012-05-18/ngt/1/ppl/1/#/hos=true/hot=true/apt=true/cam=true/gue=true[/url]

Another: [url]http://www.hostelbookers.com/property/prp/5203/arr/2012-05-17/ngt/10/ppl/1/[/url] ($34 / night).

I'm seriously thinking about giving Hotel Vina Del Mar a try, if my contacts couldn't find anything affordable. [url]http://www.vinadelmar.com.br.[/url] It's situated by the end of flamengo beach, near Cinelandia metro, barely five minutes taxi ride to 4 x 4, and the prominent prives. The website cost is offering $67 per night on distinct websites, with free wireless internet, AC, mini safe, and cable tv. One of the foremost advantage is that its located close by Scort Show agency. Also, it's an ultimate spot for someone who wants to stick to Centro casas, termas, etc. Every contact in Rio is coating me R$140+ for studio, and R$200+ for 1br for a temporada stay. However, deals for R$1600- R$2000 / month contract for a studio in Copa are also offered, but it possibly excludes utilities. Hotel Vina Del Mar Anyone?

[QUOTE=ChrisDrug;1279567]I was planned to do Rio in July but my Corp made adjustment to my vacation schedule … The Copacabana hotel, located next to Rio Sul mall, is offering a great deal of $17 / night.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Sperto;1279712]R$17/night (or US$17)? I highly doubt that.[/QUOTE]I don't know of any hotels next to Rio Sul mall. However he may be referring to Cabanacopa Auberge, nearby on the other side of morro Sao Joao. The daily rates are $US 16. 20. Great place to invite your garota from Scort Show. Millionaires love this place.

[QUOTE=Poucolouco;1279944]I don't know of any hotels next to Rio Sul mall. However he may be referring to Cabanacopa Auberge, nearby on the other side of morro Sao Joao. The daily rates are $US 16. 20. Great place to invite your garota from Scort Show. Millionaires love this place.[/QUOTE]
Not next to Rio Sul, rather next to Metro Cardeal Arcoverde.
ChrisDrug is millionaire so he should love staying at this backpackers hostel paying US$17.
[QUOTE=ChrisDrug;1202416]I make almost $15, 000 as a general manager of two companies. I got no problem paying $400-500 per day. [/QUOTE]
Something smells m*rda...

[QUOTE=Poucolouco;1279944]I don't know of any hotels next to Rio Sul mall. However he may be referring to Cabanacopa Auberge, nearby on the other side of morro Sao Joao. The daily rates are $US 16. 20. Great place to invite your garota from Scort Show. Millionaires love this place.[/QUOTE]Hopefully, I got a long life ahead of me. Just because anyone has money doesn't signify that he or she has to blow it all away at once. I spend x amount of money for pleasure, and invest the rest. It's not about being a millionaire net worth concern, I just see no point in blowing over max $400- $500 / night anyplace in the world. I got a final project to finish before Tuesday, and I just can't linger to slap those legendary asses and gratify my 'Carioca Bunda' cravings.

79R pernoite. 8 PM to 12 noon. Stow your gear in the locker of a hostel if you don't feel comfortable leaving it in the laundry room (roperia). Noon to 8 PM, prives and termas.

The front desk calls you if a girl leaves, making pernoites safer. Look at my other posts for list of RJ sex motels. A man should get laid in every one as a lifetime goal.

[url]http://www.hotelbaraodoflamengo.com.br/[/url]

[QUOTE=ChrisDrug; 1279764]I was talking about CabanaCopa hostel, near Rio Sul Mall. The hostelbookers. Com web is offering $17 / night, with descent rooms. It's a descent spot if down here for a weekend.

[url]http://www.hostelbookers.com/property/prp/44464/arr/2012-05-18/ngt/1/ppl/1/#/hos=true/hot=true/apt=true/cam=true/gue=true[/url]

Another:

[url]http://www.hostelbookers.com/property/prp/5203/arr/2012-05-17/ngt/10/ppl/1/[/url]

($34 / night).

I'm seriously thinking about giving Hotel Vina Del Mar a try, if my contacts couldn't find anything affordable.

[url]http://www.vinadelmar.com.br.[/url]

It's situated by the end of flamengo beach, near Cinelandia metro, barely five minutes taxi ride to 4 x 4, and the prominent prives. The website cost is offering $67 per night on distinct websites, with free wireless internet, AC, mini safe, and cable tv. One of the foremost advantage is that its located close by Scort Show agency. Also, it's an ultimate spot for someone who wants to stick to Centro casas, termas, etc. Every contact in Rio is coating me R$140+ for studio, and R$200+ for 1br for a temporada stay. However, deals for R$1600- R$2000 / month contract for a studio in Copa are also offered, but it possibly excludes utilities. Hotel Vina Del Mar Anyone?[/QUOTE]

Also, Barao do Flamengo is right around the corner from scortshow. You dial 0 2553 6115 from a hotel room, ask "qual meninas es desponivel" (which girls are available). Have your list from looking at hotforum. She's there in 5 minutes. You check in at 8 PM, you can do one girl at 9 PM. And do another at 9:30 AM. All on the same 79R pernoite. Roparia is room 202, go down and get your own change of sheets. Now that is frugal fucking.

[QUOTE=PatmarBeleza1; 1280013]79R pernoite. 8 PM to 12 noon. Stow your gear in the locker of a hostel if you don't feel comfortable leaving it in the laundry room (roperia). Noon to 8 PM, prives and termas.

The front desk calls you if a girl leaves, making pernoites safer. Look at my other posts for list of RJ sex motels. A man should get laid in every one as a lifetime goal.

[url]http://www.hotelbaraodoflamengo.com.br/[/url][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=PatmarBeleza1;1280015]AYou dial 0 2553 6115 from a hotel room, ask "qual meninas es desponivel" (which girls are available).[/QUOTE]Qual menina esta disponivel? Which girl is available?

Quais meninas estao disponiveis? Which girls are available. Snake over the "a"

Hit 502 tonight. Was a themed party / festa,"Dia das Noivas" which apparently is day of the brides. Meaning all the chicks were wearing white lingerie including white fishnet stockings yum yum!

Seriously there were 4-5 very doable chicks at 502 including 2 slim little white girls (one looking incredibly slutty) , a cute young morena (who previously I've seen rocking the schoolgirl outfit) , and one black chick with an absolutely killer slim bod (she was straddling some guy in the main boate, basically dry humping him for 15 minutes as he untied her panties and let his fingers do the walking).

R$20 entrada (including 3 beers or waters) , R$220 for a suite for 1 hour. What's not to like? Well, OK, the facilities. And the fact that whenever I come back, I have to throw my clothes directly in the washer since they reek of smoke. But with high quality talent and reasonable prices, it's not a bad deal.

Best part. I sit down in the Metro to wait for the train at 11. 30pm, and the guy next to me on the seats, who is cradling his head in his hands, just starts puking right on the floor between his legs, splattering all over his shoes. With my ninja-style reflexes, I escape without a splash and he just keeps blowing chow. Rock on you crazy diamond!

[QUOTE=ChrisDrug;1202416]I make almost $15, 000 as a general manager of two companies. I got no problem paying $400-500 per day.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=ChrisDrug;1279984]Hopefully, I got a long life ahead of me. Just because anyone has money doesn't signify that he or she has to blow it all away at once. It's not about being a millionaire net worth concern, I just see no point in blowing over max $400- $500 / night anyplace in the world.[/QUOTE]Maylay, you must be smokin some strong shit tonight.

[QUOTE=PatmarBeleza1;1280013]79R pernoite. 8 PM to 12 noon. Stow your gear in the locker of a hostel if you don't feel comfortable leaving it in the laundry room (roperia). Noon to 8 PM, prives and termas.
The front desk calls you if a girl leaves, making pernoites safer. Look at my other posts for list of RJ sex motels. A man should get laid in every one as a lifetime goal.
[url]http://www.hotelbaraodoflamengo.com.br/[/url][/QUOTE]
The motel looks decent. You have to pack your stuff together every day and can't stay at the motel between 12-20. Doesn't it bother you that you have to leave your room every day? During 8 hours you've no place to chill out, take a shower or take a d*mp.
When I used to stay in a motel on my earlier visits to Manaus I negotiated a good price for staying 24 hours. Have you tried that?

I'll remember Hotel Barão do Flamengo. It could be an option if I arrive in Rio and need a place to stay for a day or two while waiting to enter an apartment.

Guys just returned from Rio, had 20 day vacation opnly in RIo. I had Bubbaboy's ans psertos reports saved on my mobile. They were really helpful and precise. I reallt thank them for the time energy and efforts they puit in to make such a lovely report.

We as for mongering I just went to Centaurus just for the heck of it and that too twice in the last 3 days of my trip. And once I tried the Bel prazer massage place.

As I was staying in lapa for the first 10 days of my trip I used the cambio in Rio branco as they gave the best rates to me. And while walking I just stumbled upon the sala185. I had sometime with me so thought will check the place. I was really nice no-nonsense place. I didn't know a word of portuguese but the receptionist and me used the hand signals for communictions and then another customer translated for me and I tried the slimmest ass I could get, her name was Nina. Nice sexy young with medium boobs and ass. And I lvoe them this way.

Wanted to visit it once more but couldn't, and also I prefer things to go little slow and here it was like just do the deed and finish. So yes still it was ncie and would have tried it once more but I didn't need it. Because I got 3 local girls that I met in the local travellers meetings, all 3 at different times and yes it was so nice with them that I never felt any need for mongering.

And yes its in the report that brazillian girls really make love like nobody else. And I bet he was RIGHT. With over 10 visits to Thailand and many non paid encounters with few other nationalities I can surely say brazillian girls are fiery in bed.

But yes as I realised I was going to leave Rio in few days I thought it would be a shame not to visit any place and just be satiisfid with the non-pro action. So. Yes bubbaboy was again the saviour, I was staying at copacabana in my last 10 days, extremely close to help (which I have just read about. But it showed in the map that help was very close to my place) and fro there centaurus was the closest and the most expensive and probaboly not the best but still I just walked there one night at around 8ish. And yes I left the place at around 2:30.

I went there and as had knowledge of all the things beforehand (bubbaboy / sperto I treat you a mongering session if you ever visit Mumbai / India. And I am serious.) so they didn't ak for the entire amount upfront. I paid 140 and entered, changed into the robe and kept the money in my robe pocket as I had decided to make it a memorable night so had got arounnd 1500 reals. And didn't want my jonny to bear the brunt of my fear of that money getting stolen from the locker.

So yes. Changed. Went upstairs. 2 sucker fish'es trying to block my way. In a seducing way. I too just pass thru them with a smile and lot of respect :P hehe Once iinside the boate. I bot a drink and took a seat. I was being approched by some other 'almost turning sucker fish in few month' types :P but I just singalled them that I am just chilling and don't want any girl next to me right now. And I really don't prefer to pull in any girl next to me and cuddle and kiss and touch, if I don't like I don't really prefer to do thigns with them as I don't want them to waste their time with me when they might have got an oppottunity to get some other guy. So yeah I had my eye on a cute thing which was already talking and sitting with an old guy and they were really taking alot of time just talking. And I decided I am going to cabinee only with her. But have to wait for them to finish and yes I had entire night for myself. And I didn't let any girl sit next to me for long (might be an bad idea but I dunnoy why)

And one girl comes next to me. Standing and talking with me. She is really nice but since my eyes were all rosy for that chick I was kinda trying to ignore her too. But the way she was talking. She seemed vry nice and calm and a kind of gf type talks and she knew quite decent english. Her name was Lucia. I reluctantly let her sit with me and we started talking. And I told her I am waiting for tht girl. Blah blah blah. She still didn't ditch me and was really a good and nice girl to talk with. And she was not the sexy * type, she was sweet and nice ass nice boobs and face. I like her. And I decide to give her a chance and see how it goes as I realise GFE is more importand that a cute face bcoz in bed when the lights are dim. Face has no value. ONLY GFE it what matters.

So yes after a good 45 mins of chat I asked her if she wants to drink something and she said No.

And I also aske dher the questions tht bubbaboy suggested. How good are you in the act :P will she do completa (I don't like anal but asked, if she is ready for that then she is ready for almost anything) Then I told her I hate girls who hurry after the act is finished. And she said she won't hurry and I can do 2 times 3 times if my khoony can do it. And she said really nice things that I knew she is the rigfht one.

Once inside she quickly gave a good BBJ, and I am bad at describing the details of it but I had a nice one, then were lying down playig with her bobs and talking inbetwee. It was sat and Sunday it was closed, so I took her number and we decided to meet outside too. And she again staqrted BJ after 20 mins and we again had a ncie session. And I could see she was really tired and maybe not well. And she finished her promise and asked me if she cud sleep for a while and yes even I was sleepy and thot 15 mins nap can go along way for another cabinee ith tht chick. And we cuddled and slept and were wokkep up by bangs on the door.

Quickly dressed and left and back to boate. Again trying to look for tht chica. She was once more busy with another guy and I wondered if she got business or just talked and talked with the guys. Anyways she was free for few seconds and I didn't want to just leap at her like a eopard and was waiting for her to turn and look towards me and Lo. Another guy tarted talking. So I wa frustrated. But ok need sometime for jonny to be ready so didn't mind it much. And I couldn't see lucia and thought she might be resting.

Now another girl who I liked but didn't bother to call as was fixated on that particular chick. She was looking at me. And there were 5 STUPID CHEAPS asses from INDIA (yes my own country and I hate such guys) who had one entire section to themsleves and were sitting with 2 girls on both sides and were just fooling around for around 2 hours by now. And I understand taking girls to cabinee is not compulsory but they were literally fooling with all the girls and the manager she too got frustrated and was asking girls not to sit next to them. I too was frustrated because its because of people like these that I sometimes had to face prejudice at some clubs in the past (now I learned to dress more chic and accessorise in such a manner that they dnt even stop you). But in Rio thts not a good option too. So anyways these guys (two of them soo short. LOL I guess one 5 feet and another 5. 1) and really lost respeted from all the girls and I was also feeling bad the way they get up and pull a girl fro the bar take her to their spot and sit witht them for sometime and pull another. Kiss. Grope! 1 what asses they were. Anyways so that another girl who looked at me and I just happend to be little high and called her. And she was lovely sexy slim ass and perfect paris model. Blonde too :P hehe And I forgot her name but we started talking and few other girls sitting nexct to me and having food and we were talking and she offered to give me the best sex of my life if I took her. And she didn't know proper english but the manager translated for me. She even thought imight be brazillain and then knowing I am Indian LOL she was aksign me am I their friend. LOL I said NO NO NO. And she was talkign how they are misbehaving. And then I realised why management had decided to take money upfront for takign one girl to cabine. Because of guy like these! Well one of them took a girl to cabinee but rest others just probably helped themselves in the washroom and left.

Again yes this girl then was asking me if I am interested in taking her and I said I don't call anybody if I am not interested and yes. She really knew how to turn me on. And then she also was losing patience as she said she wa snew to tis place and tonight she didn't have any customer. The manager translated and told me to try her and then pay. I said no. I will pay and try her. And I paid and yes. She was really really hot and one of my dream sex. Nothign VERY extraordinary but nice and good 2 sessions with her too. Came out and back to boate and then it was around 1:45 and I was sleepy and I could see lucia was there she was shi=vering and I aske dif she wanted to drin and she had a juice and I aske dher if she can leave early bcoz she wanst well and said I can leave her home but she said she wasnt allowed and then I left.

I forgot the rest of my money in my robe. And as soon as I removed it the old lady took it inside, she gpot the money in both her hands and showed me, I thought she is aksign for tips and I said wait. Let me get dressed. (LOL was drunk a bit and didn't know it was my money) and after I got dressed I went to the counter and then I realised I didn't have my money with me. And I went back and asked the old lady to get my robe and I realised she had act got my money. She asked me how much and I didn't know. Said maybe 400 reals. She gave it back to me and I gave her 30 reals for honesty. And the manager came and she asked for tip and gave her 20. And she said come back on Monday I said yes I sure will.

Sunday I though will also check Luomo, but I met lucia at my place at around 7 and then we had a good time, it was nice knowing her more and I realiused she was a good gf material girl with good thinking and positive mentality, I haad asked her what she expected for 3 hrs at my place and she replied 30? Ok? I replied its alot but I will give her. And when she came we did have a good time but I really liked her as a person and then suddenly craved for Luomo so after 2 hours I said she can leave and she said she wouldn't mind staying entire night with me, but I lied that I had to go to lapa and she left and I gave her 400 reals. I know I may not have done the right thing, but she really was a nice girl and I thought she deserved it.

Okay she left and was thinking about Luomo and I check my mobile. And my non pro chick who knew I am leaving on Monday sent me a text saying she wanted to give me a better farewell and so. Yes we met and it was a night. And so. Couldn't visit it. And Monday too was hectic and my flight was at 2:00 in the morning (Tuesday) so decided will finish my work and go to centaurus again for 'that' chick. As she was definately someone I didn't want to miss back in india. So managed to reach centaurus by 8 and to leave by 9:30 anyhow as was short on time. And yes she was free and I called her. Bt before I called her luica saw me and she came to me and told me in my ears she won't bother me today as she knew today I would prefer another girl. I thanked her. And then yes. That girl she came. I am really bad at names I forgot her name too. But she was from bahia and 20 something. As I was talking with her I saw a sexy pair of legs and lovely hair and a girl half visible behind another girl and I was like who is this babe and it was Lucia. She was really very good I realised. And tht girl who I was craving for. From close she was just ok. But still I decided wil take her to cabinee and she wanted some drink and she said she will eat and then we go to cabinee and she had food and we went. She was nice too. But the boobs little saggy for my taste and I realised. I was chasing an image of a girl I like. She definately want upto the mark. Inface lucia and that other girl were the best in the lot.

Butyes it wasnt disappointing but not as good as with the other girls. And I finished and left.

This was my Rio experience. Small but good.

Well, I chill out, shower, shit, in a prive or a terma between 12 and 20. I wear camp shorts and soccer shirts that can be washed in the shower of the motel every day. The diaria is 240R and the pernoite from 20 to 12 is 79R, so in effect, the extra 8 hours is 161R.

All the motels in Rio have pernoite. Malaga at Pra Bandeira, Motel Eden out by the Tijuca prives, Serrano in Lgo do Machado.

[QUOTE=Sperto; 1280100]The motel looks decent. You have to pack your stuff together every day and can't stay at the motel between 12-20. Doesn't it bother you that you have to leave your room every day? During 8 hours you've no place to chill out, take a shower or take a the*mp.

When I used to stay in a motel on my earlier visits to Manaus I negotiated a good price for staying 24 hours. Have you tried that?

I'll remember Hotel Barão do Flamengo. It could be an option if I arrive in Rio and need a place to stay for a day or two while waiting to enter an apartment.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=PatmarBeleza1;1280209]Well, I chill out, shower, shit, in a prive or a terma between 12 and 20. I wear camp shorts and soccer shirts that can be washed in the shower of the motel every day. The diaria is 240R and the pernoite from 20 to 12 is 79R, so in effect, the extra 8 hours is 161R.
All the motels in Rio have pernoite. Malaga at Pra Bandeira, Motel Eden out by the Tijuca prives, Serrano in Lgo do Machado.[/QUOTE]
I smile when I imagine me taking a dump at Tigresas Tijucanas or even worse at Vila Mimosa. Never happened and never will.

Thanks, Patmar. It's always nice to learn about other mongers habits. Different strokes for different folks.
I travel around a lot in Brazil, when I get to Rio it's like getting "home" and I settle down with all my daily routines. Morning runs, privê-visits, walk a GF's dog, beach, churrasco, evening beer, do some cooking, meeting friends and party. I couldn't stand staying in Rio for a longer period without an apartment. A nice quarto and sala half a block from the beach cost me roughly about R$80/night. I like to get settled in with my own gear, my home base.

However I understand your point about staying at a motel. When I used to stay at a motel for 2 weeks in Manaus (diária, R$50/24 hours) I thought it was great. Always a clean room, giant bed, frigo bar, mirrors everywhere, jacuzzi (which I also used as a washing machine for my clothes), room-service, radio, TV (and porno-channels) and never any hazzel when bringing women back home (on the contrary, they would complain if I went to a forró club and returned home alone). [Note: The last years I've given up staying at a motel in Manaus. I prefer a large apartment with a balcony with a wonderful sunset view over Rio Negro. R$60.]

The last tigressa tijucana post on hotforum was December 2011.

[url]http://www.hotforum.com.br/forum_topics.asp?FID=91&PN=3[/url]

The website

[url]http://www.tigresastijucanas.com/[/url]

Is no longer up, which I got from hotforum.

[url]http://www.hotforum.com.br/forum_posts.asp?TID=16799[/url]

So, I doubt anyone is taking care of any of the six s's (shit, shower, shave, supper, sex, sleep) out at that place. VM is nasty, but a terma like 4x4 opens at 2 PM, and between all the toiletries and saunas, I use 10 towels, shave everywhere, and sit on the lawn chairs in the sauna and watch Brazilian TV if the soap opera in the boate gets tiresome. If Hemingway were alive today, I reckon he'd write Sun Also Rises in the smoking room in back.

My first 11 trips to Brazil, I always got an apartment in copa or ipanema. Then I started to go over to Barao because the hotforum boards kept making reference to Barao do Flamengo hotel. Easy metro trip. Then, I realized: A) it would save requested 50R cab fare for the girl, and B) I get new sheets and towels every time at Barao, which makes a difference if you are having one or two girls over to the apartment every day and the staff only cleans once a week.

[QUOTE=Sperto; 1280349]I smile when I imagine me taking a dump at Tigresas Tijucanas or even worse at Vila Mimosa. Never happened and never will.

Thanks, Patmar. It's always nice to learn about other mongers habits. Different strokes for different folks.

I travel around a lot in Brazil, when I get to Rio it's like getting "home" and I settle down with all my daily routines. Morning runs, privê-visits, walk a GF's dog, beach, churrasco, evening beer, do some cooking, meeting friends and party. I couldn't stand staying in Rio for a longer period without an apartment. A nice quarto and sala half a block from the beach cost me roughly about R$80 / night. I like to get settled in with my own gear, my home base.

However I understand your point about staying at a motel. When I used to stay at a motel for 2 weeks in Manaus (diária, R$50/24 hours) I thought it was great. Always a clean room, giant bed, frigo bar, mirrors everywhere, jacuzzi (which I also used as a washing machine for my clothes) , room-service, radio, TV (and porno-channels) and never any hazzel when bringing women back home (on the contrary, they would complain if I went to a forró club and returned home alone). [Note: The last years I've given up staying at a motel in Manaus. I prefer a large apartment with a balcony with a wonderful sunset view over Rio Negro. R$60. ][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=PatmarBeleza1;1280386]The last tigressa tijucana post on hotforum was December 2011.

So, I doubt anyone is taking care of any of the six s's (shit, shower, shave, supper, sex, sleep) out at that place.[/QUOTE]Tigresas were not really the main issue...

In GPguia, which is the main national forum, there were Tigresas reports 8 days ago so I guess somebody is taking a shower over there.

I agree, Tigressa was not the main issue.

But, fWIW, my scan of GPGUIA on tigressa would cause to avoid that prive because there is one negative review may 8, and the previous review was January 2012.

Looking at that GPGUIA forum on Rio prives.

[url]http://www.gpguia.net/viewforum.php?f=89&sid=2ae122e6d2b1e740a9e423c63ce00b50[/url]

The current top ones look like annes, massagemtijuca, local zen, casa 19, bel prazer. After a list of the top 5 to 10, it's hard to explore the others on the list.

FWIW, I found the hotforum boards more up to date on Rio.

Prives:

[url]http://www.hotforum.com.br/forum_topics.asp?FID=151[/url]

[url]http://www.hotforum.com.br/forum_topics.asp?FID=91[/url]

Termas including Mosaico:

[url]http://www.hotforum.com.br/forum_topics.asp?FID=89[/url]

Including some mentions of two of my faves from last trip, vivien and raica who I did twice. I figure of brasileiros are mentioning them as good fucks, they are probably ok. .

The main topic is just each man's preference in mongering lifestyle in Rio. FWIW, my pro forma week is something like this:

MTWTh. Pernoite at Motel Malaga or Motel Barao Do Flamengo because of being able to walk to Mosaico or to get the Scortshow girl over to the motel with a phone call at no cab fare.

F. Pernoite at Motel Fluminense at Rua do Invalidos 176 (120R) because it is in lapa during a street party that goes from 9 PM to 3 AM at least.

SSu. Pernoite at a motel (pousada) in Buzios because it is hard to get scorts after noon on Saturday and through Sunday night, and Buzios is beautiful.

Again, that fits Buttman Backpacker, but I lived out of the stuff on my back for years as a profession.

Next trip, I plan to hit even more of the motels (list below) for pernoites, with the goal being to session and pernoite in one in each district at least on the next trip. For example, I didn't make it to a barra sex motel or a zona oest sex motel on my last trip. I will also be better prepared to hit the opportunity session. For example, I took a girl from Mosaico over to Niteroi on the barca. We went shopping. We had lunch. If I had my list of motels on my smartphone, I would have just grabbed a cab and had lunch after sex at the local sex motel from the list, instead of buying lunch in Niteroi shopping.

Centro

Nome Site Endereço Tel (s)

Amazonas Veja Rua Alexandre Mackenzie. 122 (21) 3849-2900 12H 85.

Champagne . Rua do Senado. 274 (21) 2232-1844

Feitiço . Rua do Resende. 58 (21) 2232-9568

Fenix Veja Rua do Senado. 189 (21) 2242-8004 12H 98R Lapa.

Fluminense Veja Rua dos Inválidos. 176 (21) 2252-0069 12h 78R.

Gallery Veja. Rua Camerino. 15 (21) 2263-2885/2263-2435

Paraguai . Rua do Senado. 240 (21) 2509-5473

San Diego Veja Rua Senador Pompeu. 190 (021) 2233-8791 12h 84R.

Sheik . Avenida Gomes Freire. 55 (21) 2224-3063/2242-4409

Snob Veja Rua Henrique Valadares. 150 (21) 3231-8031 12h 95R, wi fi gratuito.

Verlaine . Rua Costa Feereira. 90 (21) 2233-4795/2233-5848

Villa Regia Veja Rua Sacadura Cabral. 136 (21) 2223-4104 130r pernoite.

Vina Del Mar . Rua Joaquim Silva. 57. Lapa (21) 2509-1857



Barra

Nome Site Endereço Tel (s)

Calypso . Estrada do Pontal. 399. Recreio (21) 2490-1666/2490-1677

Dunas Veja Avenida das Américas. 2211 (21) 2493-7979/2494-3939 12h 99R.

Hawaii . Estrada the Barra the Tijuca. 3186 (21) 2493-0132/2493-0195

Marbella . Estrada the Barra the Tijuca. 431 (21) 2494-2248

Maxin . Avenida Fernando Mattos. 877 (21) 2494-2323

Papillon . Praça São Perpetuo. 150 (21) 2494-2727

Praia Linda Veja Av. Pepê.1430. Praia do Pepê (21) 2494-2186

Serramar Veja Estrada. The Barra the Tijuca. 1020 (21) 2494-2150/2493-0433

Skorpios . Estrada. The Barra the Tijuca. 54 (21) 2494-2455/2493-0154

Summertime . Estrada the Barra the Tijuca. 87 (21) 2493-2155/2493-2177



Zona Norte

Nome Site Endereço Tel (s)

Alphaville . Rua Uranos. 607. Bonsucesso (21) 2590-8437

Bariloche Veja Rua Hadook Lobo. 206. Tijuca (21) 2204-0013/2569-2698

Cartago . Rua Cachambi. 713. Cachambi (21) 2501-0266

Champion . Estrada VigáRio Geral. 118. Jardim América (21) 2471-3120

Comodoro . Rodovia Presidente Dutra. 600. Jardim América (21) 2471-4676/2371-7731

Condor . Avenida Amaro Cavalcanti. 535. Meier (21) 2594-9992/2597-1392

Corinto Veja Rua Maxwell. 460. Vila Isabel (21) 2570-9696 12h 65R.

De Maio . Rua Vinte e Quatro de Maio. 11. Méier (21) 2501-0640

Eden . Rua Soares the Costa. 147. Tijuca (21) 2569-5346 M Sans Pena.

Free . Avenida Itaóca. 60. Bonsucesso (21) 2290-5063/2590-5942

Gallant Veja Rua Joaquim Palhares. 411. Praça Bandeira (21) 2273-4541 Estacio. 12h 73r.

Gran Ville . Rodovia Presidente Dutra. 2160. Jardim América (21) 2471-4811

Love Land Veja Rua Miguel Angel. 636. Cachambi (21) 2501-0047

Magnus Veja Rua Barão de Uba. 133. Tijuca (21) 2273-1545

Malaga . Rua Barão de Iguatemi, andº 224. Praça the Bandeira Estacio 59R pernoite.

Palácio do Rei . Rua Hadock Lobo. 331. Tijuca (21) 2234-3383/2567-6814

Rosa the Vila . Avenida Marechal Rondon. 2221. Sampaio (21) 2501-4096

Stop Time . Avenida Brasil. 6505. Ramos (21) 2590-1383/2590-4541

Sunshine Veja Praia the Bica. 1051. Ilha do Governador (21) 2393-7238/2393-7239

Te Adoro Veja Rua Teodoro the Silva. 742. Vila Isabel (21) 2577-6630 12h 68R.



Zona Oeste

Nome Site Endereço Tel (s)

Agadir . Rua Augusto Vasconcelos. 506. Campo Grande (21) 2394-4766

Blue Star Rio . Rodovia Presidente Dutra. 2226. Nova Iguaçyou (21) 2471-1631

Caricia . Rua Clara Nunes. 250. Madureira (21) 3350-6064

Champiom . Avenida Brasil. 1900. Campo Grande (21) 3371-2120

Costa Blanca Veja Rodovia Washington Luís 1520, km 1, 5 (21) 2671-4404

Granville Veja Rodovia Presidente Dutra. 2160. VigáRio Geral (21) 2471-4382

Jumbo . Estrada Intendente Magalhães. 346. Campinho (21) 3359-4141

Miragem . Avenida Brasil. 31850. Bangu (21) 3331-0935

Mirante Veja Estrada dos Bandeirantes. 1280. Taquara (21) 2445-0075

Nobre . Rodovia Washington Luís 4640, km 4, 5 (21) 2671-8041

Oklahoma . Avenida Brasil. 41821. Campo Grande (21) 2413-7986/2413-8205

Omaha . Avenida Ministro Edgard Romero. 675. Madureira (21) 3352-2001

Palazzo . Avenida Brasil. 32000. Bangu (21) 3331-7474/3331-9108

Salou . Avenida Brasil. 41435. Campo Grande (21) 2413-7569

Top Cap . Avenida Brasil. 32477. Bangu (21) 3331-8080/3331-5037



Zona Sul

Nome Site Endereço Tel (s)

Alameda . Rua Candido Mendes. 112. Glória (21) 2509-7880

Bambina Veja Rua Bambina. 65. Botafogo (21) 2539-0713

Barão do Flamengo . Rua Barão do Flamengo, andº 36. Flamengo (21) 2556-7079 M Largo do Machado.

Challon Veja Rua Cândido Mendes. 521. Glória (21) 2242-8826

Diamond Veja Rua the Glória. 46. Glória (21) 2253-6262 Gloria.

Diplomata Veja Praça Demétrio Ribeiro. 103. Copacabana (21) 2295-8282

Elegance Veja Rua Correia Dutra. 19. Catete (21) 3235-9000

Escort Veja Rua Estrada the Gávea. 674. São Conrado (21) 3322-1400

Love Time Veja Rua Ant. M. Campos. Catete (21) 2265-1884/2558-1911 Gloria.

Magic Veja Rua Santo Amaro. 11. Glória (21) 2507-2037

Nosso Hotel Veja Avenida Niemeyer. 210. Leblon (21) 2274-3247

Panda Veja Rua São Clemente. 298. Botafogo (21) 2537-3134

Pedro Américo . Rua Pedro Américo. 173. Catete (21) 2205-2019

Praia Lido Veja Av. Nossa Senhora de Copacabana 202. Copacabana (21) 2541-1397

Serrano Veja Rua Gago Coutinho. 22. Largo do Machado (21) 2285-3233 M Largo do Machado.

Shalimar . Avenida Niemeyer. 218. Leblon (21) 3322-3392

Sinless Veja Avenida Niemeyer. 214. Leblon (21) 2512-9913

Vila Rica Veja Rua Conde de Lages. 2. Glória (21) 2232-2983

VIP's Veja Avenida Niemeyer. 418. Leblon (21) 3322-1662



NiteróI

Nome Site Endereço Tel (s)

Carinhoso . Rodovia Amaral Peixoto, Km 6, 5 (21) 2603-1935

Fair Play . Avenida Eugênio Borges. 2500. Arsena (21) 2701-1596

Gantuá . Rodovia Amaral Peixoto, Km 2, 5 (21) 2625-0903

Le Baron Veja Rodovia Amaral Peixoto, Km 5 (21) 2627-6166

Praia das Flexas . Estrada Francisco the Cruz Nunes. 128 (21) 2616-4220

Sparta Veja Rua São Lourenço. 55 (21) 2622-3666

Sundown . Avenida Quintino Bocaiuva. 881. São Francisco (21) 2710-0946.

[QUOTE=Sperto; 1280391]Tigresas were not really the main issue.

In GPguia, which is the main national forum, there were Tigresas reports 8 days ago so I guess somebody is taking a shower over there.

BTW, Tigresas Tijucanas have a "be l o g s p o t".[/QUOTE]

patmarbeleza,

i admire your combatant skills, however, i do agree with sperto on this issue. i have never used any of the prives, or casa's toilets where patrons have urinated with their eyes closed. however, i do admit using showers at the tier 1 termas. not that anything wrong with it, i seek to to avoid public bathrooms. using vila vimousa's toilet? i wouldn't exploit them even if my life depends on it.

Planning a visit to Rio over July 4th week. Been reading various posts on the site. Would appreciate a bit of information.

My last trip to Rio was in 2008. Had a great time dancing with a couple of girls at Help. Wondering of there is a replacement for Help. A bit confused with the verious posts on Balcony. Is there a night club or two where I can hang out with pro's and semi pro's around? Where has all the action moved to with Help gone. Would like to recreate a great time I had years ago in Rio.

Thanks for the info.

[QUOTE=Exec Talent;1279550]But only for people who do more than ask if there are any English Speaking girls on every forum thread.[/QUOTE]I have been to each country I asked about I am a handsome young man who gets laid in every latin american city for free I mastered the art of seduction. If she can speak english I will plow her free all weekend giving her legitimate multiple orgasms. I have never paid a penny on anything but drinks and hotels.

[QUOTE=PatmarBeleza1;1280402]But, fWIW, my scan of GPGUIA on tigressa would cause to avoid that prive because there is one negative review may 8, and the previous review was January 2012.[/QUOTE]
There were no Tigresa TD's during a couple of months this year. The place was being renovated and the girls were working at Mix Massagem.

I'm not in Rio now so I don't know anything about their current situation.
Maybe this is their new site?
[url]http://www.xyzen.com.br/massagistas.htm[/url]

[url]http://www.hotforum.com.br/forum_posts.asp?TID=22121[/url]

Hotforum posts today say xy Zen is the new name for tigresatijucana.

Natasha was getting positive td at Anne on same street Saturday.

[QUOTE=Sperto; 1280466]There were no Tigresa TD's during a couple of months this year. The place was being renovated and the girls were working at Mix Massagem.

I'm not in Rio now so I don't know anything about their current situation.

Maybe this is their new site?

[url]http://www.xyzen.com.br/massagistas.htm[/url][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Exec Talent;1279550]But only for people who do more than ask if there are any English Speaking girls on every forum thread.[/QUOTE]I really didn't need your smart comment or your help. I just got back from Rio and my cabdriver took me to Rio De Janeiro state university. Here is a pic.

[QUOTE=PatmarBeleza1; 1280591][url]http://www.hotforum.com.br/forum_posts.asp?TID=22121[/url]

Hotforum posts today say xy Zen is the new name for tigresatijucana.

Natasha was getting positive td at Anne on same street Saturday.[/QUOTE]I dropped by there 2 weeks ago, there was only maybe 5 girls working. So I left. New places take a while to get going I guess.

[QUOTE=Arjuna Alpha; 1280419]Planning a visit to Rio over July 4th week. Been reading various posts on the site. Would appreciate a bit of information.

My last trip to Rio was in 2008. Had a great time dancing with a couple of girls at Help. Wondering of there is a replacement for Help. A bit confused with the verious posts on Balcony. Is there a night club or two where I can hang out with pro's and semi pro's around? Where has all the action moved to with Help gone. Would like to recreate a great time I had years ago in Rio.

Thanks for the info.[/QUOTE]Arjuna Alpha,

There isn't no NEW action that can compare to the old Club Help all you can do is try to make NEW times. And all you and the rest of us can do is just remember the fun we had and all you can do is remember the fun you had back in 2008 BUT recreate? Don't even waste your time trying to do so.

Kid Cisco

[QUOTE=PatmarBeleza1;1280209]Well, I chill out, shower, shit, in a prive or a terma between 12 and 20. I wear camp shorts and soccer shirts that can be washed in the shower of the motel every day. The diaria is 240R and the pernoite from 20 to 12 is 79R, so in effect, the extra 8 hours is 161R.[/QUOTE]Once knew an older German who'd been doing that routine with the motels. For like years. He also enjoyed long daytime bus rides and got out to every corner of the City. Too bad the man never put a guide together, but this was pre-internet. With the shabby, noisy so-called apartments around in the sub 100-reale price range, why not motel. And you get the breakfast, too.

A long time member of hotforum said:

The mosaic is now surely the best option in a variety of women and the only house with the climate of the former Help. While there [blue][Racial Epithet(s) Deleted by Admin][/blue] who loses time tormenting toenail, other things are there licking hottest

On hotforum.

[url]http://www.hotforum.com.br/forum_posts.asp?TID=13327&PN=72[/url]

[url]http://www.hotforum.com.br/forum_posts.asp?TID=13327&PN=77[/url]

And here is hotforum with TDs with the mosaico girls.

[url]http://www.hotforum.com.br/forum_posts.asp?TID=12241&PN=18[/url]

I can tell you I went for the girls that the brazilians were talking about. Raika (repeated) , vivien, alisa, naomi, flavia. I can't wait to repeat with the first three, Raika, Vivien, Alicia.

Entrada is 20R. 30 minutes is 90R, and 60 minutes is 160R.

I don't know what the old help was. In 2008, I had apartments in ipanema and copa a futbol field from help, but I never went to help. Anyway, I think it's worth checking out mosaico.

[QUOTE=Kid Cisco; 1280670]Arjuna Alpha,

There isn't no NEW action that can compare to the old Club Help all you can do is try to make NEW times. And all you and the rest of us can do is just remember the fun we had and all you can do is remember the fun you had back in 2008 BUT recreate? Don't even waste your time trying to do so.

Kid Cisco[/QUOTE]

[b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]This report was edited in accordance with the Forum's Zero Tolerance policy regarding reports containing [u]racial epithets[/u].

Please be advised that Forum Members who succeed in having three or more of their reports deleted for personal attacks, racial epithets or other derogatory comments, will be banned under the Forum's Serial Antagonist Policy.[/blue]

[QUOTE=Jay Streets;1280612]I really didn't need your smart comment or your help. I just got back from Rio and my cabdriver took me to Rio De Janeiro state university. Here is a pic.[/QUOTE]I didn't know they used feet to measure the depth of water in Brazil

This is a really helpful forum. Sperto's guide and Bubba Boy's guide were big positives in my last trip to Rio. I got a message from another forum member with details on how to get to Buzios, and that helped me hop a bus Saturday afternoon and helped me get to Buzios that day. I met two forum members there in Rio. A lot of helpful mongering information was exchanged.

But, by my count, there are maybe two forum members who are actually in Rio. The rest of the people who post are somewhere else. A lot of the content of the forum therefore becomes nibbling to death by ducks, ie, my pointing out that a certain prive isn't going by that name. I'm guilty. Maybe this is because those of us not in Rio want to get back to the land of bunda. I actually don't mind any "chit chat." The economic stuff can lead to good sex, not just sex. But, I also don't have time to edit my stuff, nor do I think it would be helpful to not post unless I did edit, especially when I am on the ground and posting TDs from the last 24 hours in 10 minutes in a wi-fi hotspot.

I would, therefore, suggest that perhaps we try to take a lead from a post from hotforum. At the risk of some offensive word, here it is, from the following link.

[url]http://www.hotforum.com.br/forum_posts.asp?TID=13327&PN=71[/url]

It's nice when we get to know the scope of the Forum and the rightful recognition of good tips that come here. I just received an email from Germany, a reader forum telling us who was in Brazil recently with a group of friends and foreigners visited the Mosaic, the foreigners were amazed by the women and joy of the house. It is the fame of coming to Berlin Cabaret. That's it! Mosaic and HF picking renowned Thanks, guys from Germany.

The point of choosing the above quote is that I think our forum would be a lot better served if we adopted the attitude fo the brasilians who are trying to be welcoming to people around the world to the second national sport of Brazil, that is banging bunda. But then, the Germans play futbol too.

There's too much trivial back-biting going on here. Men, let's spend our editorial talent earning some do re mi to go back and bang bunda and post picks thereof!

[QUOTE=Java Man; 1280869]The original Portuguese phrase: "Enquanto tem neguinho que perde tempo roendo a unha do pé, outros estão lá lambendo coisas mais gostosas." I'm not sure "neguinho" is derogatory in Brazil. It's the name of the lead singer of Beija-Flor. Just because Google translated it that way, does not make it so. Another online translator, translated it to "little buddy." Also when you add "inho" to a word, doesn't it add affection, endearment to it?

Roughly translated: While little buddy is wasting time gnawing at his toenail, others there are licking very tasty things.[/QUOTE]

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I am aware that the vast majority of references to racial issues are legitimate attempts to advise other fellow members about local racial issues and prejudices. However, past discussions in the Forum has repeatedly demonstrated that the subject simply cannot be discussed intelligently, in any form or for any reason, without being misinterpreted and without starting flame wars.

Please do not engage in discussions about race in the Forum. Please read the Forum's Posting Guidelines for further information.

[i]Thanks![/i][/blue]

[QUOTE=PatmarBeleza1;1280851]Nibbled to death by ducks.[/QUOTE]I was enjoying your reports until now. Since you choose to trivialize and dismiss comments by other members, you seem to miss the point. Perhaps a message from the Forum administrator will put an end to your pejorative comments.

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Please do not engage in discussions about race in the Forum. Please read the Forum's Posting Guidelines for further information.

[i]Thanks![/i][/blue]

I answer here to avoid more burying of Bubba's reports.

[QUOTE=BH Bound;1280819]I didn't know they used feet to measure the depth of water in Brazil[/QUOTE]They don't, as you know. The picture is taken in Florida.

[url]http://tampa.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/classifieds/EnlargeImage?oid=6097633&image=6097628[/url]

[QUOTE=Jay Streets;1280612]I have been to each country I asked about I am a handsome young man who gets laid in every latin american city for free I mastered the art of seduction. If she can speak english I will plow her free all weekend giving her legitimate multiple orgasms. I have never paid a penny on anything but drinks and hotels. I just got back from Rio and my cabdriver took me to Rio De Janeiro state university. Here is a pic.[/QUOTE][url]Http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=168667&d=1336916054[/url]

[QUOTE=PatmarBeleza1; 1280912]Give me a break. Really. This has become trivial BS. Forum administrator? Sure, maybe he can sort out Google translator. The word in question,"nigga" was apparently a correct translation of a portugese slang word, and it is not offensive.

The sentence it was in was not even important to the point of the post I made. What I was pointing out is that brazilians are calling Mosaico a new Help.

You are trivializing yourselves.[/QUOTE]PatmarBeleza1,

I don't know were you were born are were you are from or were you have live in your life BUT as much as I wanted to keep and stay away from making any comment on this topic. BUT after I toured Germany and seen what have happen to the Jews over there when no one said anything so I couldn't keep quit on this topic.

BUT when I see someone like yourself that spent so much time writing post after post that many have enjoyed reading and I was going to post a thank you for your post BUT now I feel I need to teach you something about the word you seem to feel is NO big deal and we are just trivializing ourselves for your information the word you felt you needed to keep posting on here isn't a SLANG word but it is a RACIST term and it is a offensive word to many!

I agree with Poucolouco the Administrator which is the site owner Mr. Jackson have said time and time again this site / forum is for finding women for sex and this is a English speaking and reading site. This section is for Rio reports NOT for reading in Portuguese how to translate a RACIST word in Portuguese to a Racist word in English. You can keep trying to say it is a Slang word all you want to BUT there is a long long history of that "N" word being anything BUT a slang word..

Why on earth would you even think for a second anyone would care or would be interested to read what " those" guys debate or read or post a "racist " term on a Brazilian forum anyways?

Even after Ipanema Carioca told you UNLESS you are a member of the Klu Klux Klan otherwise don't use it! And you still felt the need to disrespect his post and repeated the "N" word. ? And Poucolouco felt it was offensive and I also feel and KNOW it is offensive! and guess what? For your info the word is offensive.

I tell you what if you still think it's no big deal and it isn't a racist word or a offensive word just go down to Mia P. In the afternoon there is from time to time a group of guys I known for decades live in Rio and some of them have served in my unit in the US Navy that would love to have a beer with you, you just need to go by there and say Yo "N" what's up?

So bottom line leave all the racist terms that is said and that you have found on those Brazilian forum on the Brazilian site and use English on this site (since it is a English ONLY site) and be respectful once someone tell you that they are and was offended. And don't try to ignore or dismiss their comments that is in it self is very insulting.

There is a section on here for Portuguese words and phrases.. but this isn't it..

Now, let's get back to reporting about girls and were to find them in ( English )..

Kid Cisco

Kid Cisco:

First, the primary language of Brazil is not english. I use a translator by the largest internet company to get intel, which you should understand if you were a military man.

Take this item, for example, from hotforum.

[url]http://www.hotforum.com.br/forum_posts.asp?TID=13327&PN=70[/url]

Yesterday I was caught by surprise at the home of two friends who wanted fun, but without knowing where to go.

So I inquired about Mosaic. We set the bar toward the house, but we decided to check on a Balcony. As usual, many gringos and working girls (who only wanted the doletas) , then headed to the Mosaic.

What the brasileiro is saying is that those of you who are hanging out at Balcony or meia petaca (Mia P?) are missing the best Brazilian P4P.

This board is about men trying to get sex with women, right? Developing intel from the local sources is much better than listening to all the ISG board members debate which GDP was better 2 years ago.

So, you're a military man and you want to ask me to go see a bunch of your former military friends at Mia P so I can repeat the N word, which I guess is going to get a violent reaction of some sort? Well, I have two reactions. First, I was in the military as well, and my friends from my service have wiped the deck with lads from your service. Second, I am not interested in any type of confrontation with anyone on this board, which is about men trying to get sex with women. It was a translation. Get over it. You cite a board member associating the and-word with the KKK? Another board member does a translation that shows that it was not offensive.

As for writing in English, work on your own writing. Your posts are great, but very hard to read because of poor English.

All this storm in a jar is leading me to conclude that ISG is of little ongoing, current value except for Sperto's and Bubba Boy's reports. It would be better just to use hotforum, and learn to write in portoguese through a translator or through emailing a friendly administrator on that board.

I won't use the N word. It was not intentional. I am a minority too. I understand it can be offensive.

[QUOTE=Kid Cisco; 1281086]PatmarBeleza1,

I don't know were you were born are were you are from or were you have live in your life BUT as much as I wanted to keep and stay away from making any comment on this topic. BUT after I toured Germany and seen what have happen to the Jews over there when no one said anything so I couldn't keep quit on this topic.

BUT when I see someone like yourself that spent so much time writing post after post that many have enjoyed reading and I was going to post a thank you for your post BUT now I feel I need to teach you something about the word you seem to feel is NO big deal and we are just trivializing ourselves for your information the word you felt you needed to keep posting on here isn't a SLANG word but it is a RACIST term and it is a offensive word to many!

I agree with Poucolouco the Administrator which is the site owner Mr. Jackson have said time and time again this site / forum is for finding women for sex and this is a English speaking and reading site. This section is for Rio reports NOT for reading in Portuguese how to translate a RACIST word in Portuguese to a Racist word in English. You can keep trying to say it is a Slang word all you want to BUT there is a long long history of that "N" word being anything BUT a slang word.

Why on earth would you even think for a second anyone would care or would be interested to read what " those" guys debate or read or post a "racist " term on a Brazilian forum anyways?

Even after Ipanema Carioca told you UNLESS you are a member of the Klu Klux Klan otherwise don't use it! And you still felt the need to disrespect his post and repeated the "N" word. ? And Poucolouco felt it was offensive and I also feel and KNOW it is offensive! And guess what? For your info the word is offensive.

I tell you what if you still think it's no big deal and it isn't a racist word or a offensive word just go down to Mia P. In the afternoon there is from time to time a group of guys I known for decades live in Rio and some of them have served in my unit in the US Navy that would love to have a beer with you, you just need to go by there and say Yo "N" what's up?

So bottom line leave all the racist terms that is said and that you have found on those Brazilian forum on the Brazilian site and use English on this site (since it is a English ONLY site) and be respectful once someone tell you that they are and was offended. And don't try to ignore or dismiss their comments that is in it self is very insulting.

There is a section on here for Portuguese words and phrases. But this isn't it.

Now, let's get back to reporting about girls and were to find them in (English ).

Kid Cisco[/QUOTE]

If you go there 10 days in a row: you might lose your shirt.

They will be nice and sell you one half price.

Bubba Boy's own guide makes at least two references to Brazilian boards. There is nothing racist about taking a translation from one of those sites and attempting to relate it to an ongoing discussion on this board.

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2191-Bubba-Boy-s-Rio-Guide[/url]

Massage places close to 4x4, T65 etc.

There are 3 large commercial buildings close to Carioca Metro Station that have tons of massage places. *Massage* places tend to give a quick bang for a decent price. Again, you can find some real cuties here for less than R$ 100. Here is a list of some of the more popular permanent ones. Again Sperto's guide goes into better details, hence check it out at the end of this section. Normally open from 10am or so and close 8pm ish. Girls start to leave around 5pm, hence after this time you will only get to see some of the girls. No entrance fee and prices are fixed! Dudas and Bel Prazer are the best of the bunch. Girls at the prives may charge more for anal. R$30 to R$50 in Centro. All the following are located in Centro. They are listed in order of popularity according to the Brazilian boards (ie the highest number Test Drives)

The big 5: Definitely worth checking out while in Rio. A must! (Anal usually R$50 extra). Prices listed below may vary by R$10, prices just keep going up.

Bel Prazer (2517-0879) Av Rio Branco 185 Sala 2114. [url]http://www.belprazer.com/[/url] (R$110 60mins) Bellas Massagem (2215-4199) Av Rio Branco 185 Sala 725 [url]http://www.bellasmassagens.com/[/url] Duda (2517-1656) Av Rio Branco 156 Sala 3320 (R$85 40mins, R$115 60 mins)

Nova Massagem (2215-3553) – Casa 19. Rua the Conceição, no 19 [url]http://novamassagem.com/[/url] (same owners as Bel Prazer and same price)

Lokal Zen Av treze de Maio. 33. Sala 2414. [url]http://lokalzen.com/[/url] (R$100 60mins)

The entrance is off Travessa dos Poetas de calçada, you need to go to the second floor to catch the crappy old death trap elevators.

The rest:- Smaller places, worth a hunt. If you are in a hurry, probably just stick to the big 5 above. Aline Massagem (2215-5741) Av Almirante Barroso 6 Sala 305 [url]http://www.alinemassagens.com.br/[/url] Centro Star (2210-2833) Av Rio Branco 156 Sala 2622.

Feitiço Femino (2262-7702) Av Rio Branco 185 Sala 729 & Sala 1303 [url]http://www.amantesecia.com.br/veragencia.php?agencia=97[/url]

Centro Susy (2215-1960) Av Rio Branco 156 Sala 1839 Lots of girls. [url]http://www.centrosusy.com/[/url]

NB 1: For more info on these types of places see *Sperto's Excellent Centro Guide* at the end of this section.

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NB 2: There are tons of these types of prives in Rio. There are also some good ones at Tijuca (metro station – Saens Pena) , about a 15minute ride from Centro. See the Tijuca section for more details.

Down & Dirty in Rio De Janeiro – ***** Map style.

This site is maintained by local Brazilian punters. Once you have a bit of experience and can understand Portuguese, go and do a bit of adventuring yourself. [url]http://maps.google.com/?q=http://bitchmaps.com/rj[/url]

Guia net is a great local site all in Portuguese. [url]http://www.gpguia.net/[/url]

[QUOTE=Golfinho;1281159]You are being disingenuous, and sadly it appears to be entirely unintentional. Everyone born in the USA knows what this word means. As well as the implications. Wish it were not so, but that's the reality. In the world of Mark Twain, slavery was a reality, and with it came a vernacular that has passed into history. You can persist, and bear whatever consequences come your way, if not here, than elsewhere.[/QUOTE]

Mosaico is at the intersection of Rua Hilario Riberio and Rua Sotero dos Reis about 100 yards from Vila Mimosa. See the attached two pictures, one of the area, and the other of the front of Mosaico.

The ISG members who I thought were in Rio were Cartman and Bubba Boy, and you (Brasil Specialist) make 3. When I was in town, I had a meal with Cartman and went to Mosaico and VM with Jazzy Daddy.

Thanks for the insights about the Brazilian version of that word. As I've said again and again, I meant no offense by using the translation of that word. I'll be more careful with translators, but not so careful as not to post good intel when I have it. I also have a day job whereby I earn the do re mi to go to RJ, so I am not all that concerned about making perfect posts. This is a good board, any thing to the contrary is unintentional. Peace.

Even Jazzy Daddy was saying, the quality of the intel is weak because most board members are not in Rio. He was also saying the Brazilian boards are better for actionable intel.

[QUOTE=Brazil Specialist; 1281239]I am one of the two. Live in Copacabana. Who is the other one? Actually, there are always a few friends around. And I know a few guys live here and it might be interesting to meet up. Shoot me a PM. I think I have not met Bubba yet, have I. Let's meet!

Neguinha is a friendly term. Would only be offensive if the girl does not think she is a negra."Te adoro, neguinha. Você é maravilhosa".

The english N word is always a tad agressive, even when used between Blacks.

Please help me out. Where is Mosaico? Too lazy to search for it.

Translators are almost useless for slang, indecent language and the like. If anything, they give you a remote idea about the topic, but all with a grain of salt.[/QUOTE]

[url]http://www.hotforum.com.br/forum_posts.asp?TID=13327&PN=77[/url]

[url]http://www.hotforum.com.br/forum_posts.asp?TID=12241&PN=22[/url]

Here's a post about Vivien.

VIVIEN MORENA.

It arises in the hall, seems to have changed the haircut-; comes casually in jeans and shorts yellow blouse; is at ease, walking back and forth, until I attacked,"we will not do a show today? Not queue is O."Minutes later I was in the box: seventy dollars per half-hour Viviane.

At home (cabin) it takes away the shorts, displays the tiny thong that is like icing on a cake. The olive of the pie. She takes the lead and leads to the Canary cama. Deitada, she asks me to chupe. Atendo to the whims of the girl in the mouth and take that delicious pussy with piercing; suck so much that she is excited for real and says she will enjoy. And drenches lips! My turn: her methodological side-butt that stiff cock in batento of people. And Vivi is four: redemption! The smooth body, tanned and perfect; enjoyment out of it exploding in a bed sheet.

Recommended!

Who I wrote about here.

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2192-Rio-de-Janeiro-Reports&p=1277757#post1277757[/url]

[QUOTE=Brazil Specialist; 1281239]I am one of the two. Live in Copacabana. Who is the other one? Actually, there are always a few friends around. And I know a few guys live here and it might be interesting to meet up. Shoot me a PM. I think I have not met Bubba yet, have I. Let's meet!

Neguinha is a friendly term. Would only be offensive if the girl does not think she is a negra."Te adoro, neguinha. Você é maravilhosa".

The english N word is always a tad agressive, even when used between Blacks.

Please help me out. Where is Mosaico? Too lazy to search for it.

Translators are almost useless for slang, indecent language and the like. If anything, they give you a remote idea about the topic, but all with a grain of salt.[/QUOTE]

Below are translations of reviews of five girls that I wrote about. Raika, Vivien, Alisa, Flavia, and Naomi. My main point is that running around Rio with a little backpack, laptop, I used the intel from the Brazilian boards to make a list of my targets at Mosaico, I got in there, got their names, and when a name matched a good review, I went vamos. The Brazilian reviews were a very good predictor of performance, though terrible grammar.

My TDs.

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2192-Rio-de-Janeiro-Reports&p=1277758#post1277758[/url]

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2192-Rio-de-Janeiro-Reports&p=1277757#post1277757[/url]

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2192-Rio-de-Janeiro-Reports&p=1273691#post1273691[/url]

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2192-Rio-de-Janeiro-Reports&p=1271468#post1271468[/url]

Naomi.

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2192-Rio-de-Janeiro-Reports&p=1271175#post1271175[/url]

Source of the translations from below:

[url]http://www.hotforum.com.br/forum_posts.asp?TID=12241&PN=19[/url]

Vitoria After a long time did not go straight back in the Mosaic last Thursday. I liked what I saw: several hot working in the spa center until midnight and there to leave for an extension. I saw the silver of the house, which is currently my favorite Giovana (goddess) and Raica (increasingly hot and giving a show). Congratulations Victor and Co. For the squad, climate and organization of the house. Found to Vitoria (ex-502) , Blonde tall, with short hair and sexy, slender body, but all commensurate with the plump butt. She told me that started this week in Cancun. We chatted a bit and found that there was a mutual lust. Labeled program, we are dating a bit on the couch. Then she rose to go to the bathroom ahead of her. And when she returned, it was not long and up. I have sinned a room without bathroom. I take a shower and when I returned she was in bed peladinha. I could not resist and started to kiss and lick her whole body, and more love in her xotinha delicious. She moaned and trembled all: 1-0. In her turn, she also started well and loving gradually been increasing the pressure: I enjoyed the work oral girl (no cover). I asked for her ride and she said she would make her way (has attitude) was squatting and bounced back with good, very good to get it! D4 asked and she obeyed, beautiful sight. I was moderately pounding when I heard her speak: Mete, mete more. I punched stronger and she was shaking the water with his hand and moaning. She likes socação: ***** in the mood to do with taste. Then she set up, lots of kissing, sucking the breasts delicious (perky, small to medium) , more hot kisses, fingertip stroking her asshole (it seemed tight) and perva riding and rolling: naughty sweetheart! Condoms dried a little, but was in another room. Then she took off and made &8203; &8203; a quick and delicious 69. We end with a delicious PPMM many kisses, loving girlfriend! RECOMENDADÍSSIMA and will replay on Mosaic, of course. SUMMARY £ 90. 00 per half-hour. Oral without cover and with gentle pressure. Meteção in all styles, said he does not do anal, but wants to be initiated in the arts. If you take too long, I'll take the gourd from her ass!

VIVIEN.

Stunning brunette has tdzada and worthy of many repeated: sculptural body. 0 of feminine fat; bonita. Eu charming and had only half-hours (seventy dollars in the 2nd HF) , so we went.

Rainy weather and no queues at the Cabaret marking, in the room, she takes almost everything, getting to my request-only panties (The Vivi is professional without losing tenderness).

The piece is well behaved, the butt, that kiss as a sign of reverence, that is greedy and prancing; kiss her breasts, legs. Every durinha! Vivi calls me to bed, lets give some Snaps, but does not like to kiss, or do anal and do not want to enjoy it: no problem, Viviane! I was already warned.

Putting the four find your preferred position: "Go, take my ass"; several later shifted our position pro lado. Sinto that the time is up, so I put the goddess to suck me, as I masturbate: suddenly leave a trail of cum on the sheet: "Fuck!" she says, you enjoyed a lot! Hi, hi, hi, hi!

Thanks, Vivi!

FLAVIA GOES.

Speak this girl is a pleasure: now I know for quite some time, we double. Yesterday she wore a dress on a slinky lingerie preta. Peguei it in the hall, after the usual strip, and we are expecting the room to wander, in the embrace, the fun, without saying a word. Then came the turn: she excused pro cleanliness, but soon whit; kissed her neck, her breasts and was tasty with my fill of pussy was loira. Mas the footprint of your next magic moment: it is tight, and seems to fit Jeitinhho-I think she makes some sort of pompoarismo, and I did not realize (that horny!) Flavia I sucked on the nipple and cock (the mouth it is delicious!) and gave me ppmm and four.

It was a single half-hour (ninety dollars) , but enough that I enjoyed very much.

Thanks, Flavia!

ALICIA.

The girl wearing braces is nothing new there, as she whispered, but will every other day high-andão. Bem not ask for action as I did with Marcelle, Alicia is delicious!

I had not cooled the previous program, and mulherão attacked me with a 'let's make love?"You must think I'm easy, because it is ppp, I did not care on what he saw: beautiful young woman of dark skin and soft and white clothes hiding a summary black panties.

The traditional wait has been followed without words, but with much fun on the track (back, front. Given time, I took her to a corner and sat on the sofa while the cat, standing right in front, strutted and crouched, teasing me with skill, I longed to have her, feeling her perfume.

Our time had come when the loudspeaker announced "Alicia", quickly gained the stairs and the girl was just taking care of personal hygiene to enter the cabin and I toast to your body.

Alicia is not much kissing on the mouth, but enjoys affection throughout the body, offered his neck, her breasts reared, swung his foot, she signaled where I had to kiss me la. Eu quenched in his body, in a nice butt catch and kiss, while she sucked, nipples, in the wood, the neck.

There was a unique moment: she was playing to give me the Toba and when he realized that the business was getting serious, threw the question "How much you give me for my ass?" I replied that I was not prepared and I thought she was arregar, leaving the dock, but IT DOES NOT ARREGOU! And I continued that "semimetida" enough to hear her praise of a "bastard" and feel it encharcar. Veio Diva another request: "I suck for me to enjoy in your mouth? Come on, Alicia, that! Language and sent that sprout, which grew slowly to wet down the honey.

Alicia had not enjoyed even when we realize that the end of contracted time was near, then asked me to masturbate, and she came over, rubbing her pussy on my thigh to enjoy while I sucked on the nipple. And I enjoyed our flannel soaked while I felt my knee fuck her (that too!).

Repeat and recommend.

NAOMI.

Second TD pass (pomoção hotforum £ 70 half hours) with this mulatto woman who had already been twice. In a 4x4 and the second mosaic own so I started attending. Naomi is very friendly and good people alémd and a spectacle of a mulatto woman. Two years that I had not climbed with it and plumb before I come up with it has always treated me with kindness, is an example of how a girl should be behave in spa or nightclub. The Td was good as always. It ends up being one of my fuck of security. For a day when everything seemed to go wrong in the mosaic. Chupa very well ruffle some pressure and fucks without a will and determination to be even a little bureaucratic or mechanical. Must have dispocicao to face, does everything to please and succeeds, note 8. 5.

Viviane.

Already turned umazinha commitment to this goddess every time I go there; also been able, that corpixo!

Took me half-horinha and saciei!

She is super fine folks: do not choose cliiente, just accept it, and just says 'no' if you are busy (Not when I get near it're rolling!)

Closet, she by my side, I savor those breasts, those legs and that ass. Vivi rides, but I want the hand, to feel the carnal knowledge: no problem! And take sideways, until I ask her to be four (fucking hell, that girl!) Meto knack that the crack that I had prodded with his tongue until it grelinha assanhar, and Vivi is a chord of groans: there asks me to come, but I want Is METER, kkkkkk!

In cum, she does not want the water, but wants to see the naughty spitting: "You really enjoys."

I want is more, Vivi! Ah, Geba and friends, Sorry for not having commented on the resounding success that was the birthday of the beloved dj: people by the thief, Mc Cristiane ("easy to get caught") giving a straw talent, damn woman, Elisha and pissed that I did not commented, hi, hi, hi! It was bad, but I worked the whole weekend and not have accessed this aqui. Parabéns, Geba!

GABI AND RAICA.

More puleiro in a night! The Cabaret is shining a sweepstake!

Girls new arrivals, known girls, promised to fill the house. An air of perversion was around the house, Gabi, just a friend, was a turn in a white dress-shirt, but said between friends is not rolled (How is it?) Caused me and Gabi Geovanna reboladas with lap-that, Gabi, that! . I thought about doing a dirty threesome with her, but who would be the other? Let time pass.

We are across the hall, which promise to fill, and Raica is in front of us, including the game rolling, and the two kissing with lust, giving lips and tongues. Oh, there was a double, a beautiful homage to the Women's Day: Raica, light brown, stripper and flawless little body, and Gabi, beautiful black, the whole body stiff: those who refuse a double?

I take two suite and paid for half- hour (200. 00) is hot, even with air, and launched in bed; Raica, black panties and Gabi in white (our, our, oh if I get caught!) They take my clothes and undress for a quick shower, I got ready together and pro fight.

And the gong! It's pussy on my face, Raica is enjoying the blowjob with Gabi, Gabi is enjoying with the Raica suck, I suck her pussy and Gabi's Raica TOGETHER, I suck ass the brunette, while Gabi attacks ****. Is very slutty! On balance the two enjoy twice, but the moment was still to come apotheotic: Raica put aside, but the knack is too hard, soften it a little and left. Fucking hell! And look what she DOES NOT ANAL! Raica walked away, then settled; away, accommodating. Gabi sucked Raica, which gave me an anal FUCKING! FUCKING! Neither is used to release the backdoor, so it was so good.

In my time to come, both suck me, I take the condom and bathe them in the breasts of knack.

Look, I recommend!

Congratulations, girls and congratulations to all the Women's Day!

[QUOTE=PatmarBeleza1;1281250]Below are translations of reviews of five girls that I wrote about. Raika, Vivien, Alisa, Flavia, and Naomi. My main point is that running around Rio with a little backpack, laptop,[/QUOTE]Your method of only paying overnight at Barão is admirably creative.

Next time visit me in Copa. We should talk, Maybe I join you on one of your trips.

[QUOTE=PatmarBeleza1;1281250]I used the intel from the Brazilian boards to make a list of my targets at Mosaico, I got in there, got their names, and when a name matched a good review, I went vamos. The Brazilian reviews were a very good predictor of performance, though terrible grammar.[/QUOTE]What is terrible is the translation.

[QUOTE=PatmarBeleza1; 1281250]My TDs.

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2192-Rio-de-Janeiro-Reports&p=1277758#post1277758[/url]

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2192-Rio-de-Janeiro-Reports&p=1277757#post1277757[/url]

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2192-Rio-de-Janeiro-Reports&p=1273691#post1273691[/url]

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2192-Rio-de-Janeiro-Reports&p=1271468#post1271468[/url]

Naomi.

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2192-Rio-de-Janeiro-Reports&p=1271175#post1271175[/url]

Source of the translations from below:

[url]http://www.hotforum.com.br/forum_posts.asp?TID=12241&PN=19[/url][/QUOTE]This is important. Either quote the original or provide a link.

Otherwise the translation is just a joke.

If you want to have entertainment, buy some books on amazon on the title chinglish.

Hilarious, funny. Chinese translation into English.

"Grass hurts if you stand on my face" means: don't step on the grass.

Same as your translations. Funny, often totally impossible to understand. If there is a way to see the original, those who speak Portuguese can at least make some sense out of it.

[QUOTE=PatmarBeleza1;1281250]Vitoria After a long time did not go straight back in the Mosaic last Thursday. I liked what I saw: several hot working in the spa center until midnight and there to leave for an extension. I saw the silver of the house,[/QUOTE]Quite funny. I saw the silver of the house.

If you are aware that this is an obvious screw-up and find the original, ok. I found the original after your searching.

I found the gems of the house, the diamonds among the chaff.

Here I think is the link.

[url]http://www.hotforum.com.br/forum_posts.asp?TID=12241&KW=mosaico[/url]

+vitoria&PID=270818#270818.

[QUOTE=PatmarBeleza1; 1281250]which is currently my favorite Giovana (goddess) and Raica (increasingly hot and giving a show). Congratulations Victor and Co. For the squad, climate and organization of the house. Found to Vitoria (ex-502) , Blonde tall, with short hair and sexy, slender body, but all commensurate with the plump butt. She told me that started this week in Cancun. We chatted a bit and found that there was a mutual lust. Labeled program, we are dating a bit on the couch. Then she rose to go to the bathroom ahead of her. And when she returned, it was not long and up. I have sinned a room without bathroom.

[QUOTE=PatmarBeleza1; 1281250]She took a shower ahead of me. And after whe came back, we soon went upstairs. I had a room without a bath room.

Depois ela subiu pra ir adiantando o banho dela. E quando ela voltou, andão demorou muito e subimos.

Pequei um quarto sem banheiro. Fui tomar banho e quando voltei ela já estava peladinha na cama. Não resisti e comecei a beijar e lamber seu corpo todo e caprichei na xotinha deliciosa dela. Ela gemeu e se tremeu toda: 1 a 0.[/QUOTE]I take a shower and when I returned she was in bed peladinha. I could not resist and started to kiss and lick her whole body, and more love in her xotinha delicious. She moaned and trembled all: 1-0. In her turn, she also started well and loving gradually been increasing the pressure: I enjoyed the work oral girl (no cover). I asked for her ride and she said she would make her way (has attitude) was squatting and bounced back with good, very good to get it! D4 asked and she obeyed, beautiful sight. I was moderately pounding when I heard her speak: Mete, mete more. I punched stronger.

[QUOTE=PatmarBeleza1; 1281250]If you read with an open mind you might get the idea. Now if you are reading this with the idea that google does the translation right, you might think domestic violence is happening and you should call the police.

Soquei mais forte e ela ficou apertando o lençol com a mão e gemendo.

I fucked her harder and she grabbed the bed sheet with her hand, moaning.

The and word is the same thing. Get the gist that you were dealing with a dark skinned person, forget the rest of the translation.[/QUOTE]And she was shaking the water with his hand and moaning. She likes socação: * in the mood to do with taste.

[QUOTE=PatmarBeleza1; 1281250]Ela gosta de socação: puta com disposição que faz com gosto.

She likes to fuck hard: a * with good attitude who loves what she does[/QUOTE]Then she set up, lots of kissing, sucking the breasts delicious (perky, small to medium) , more hot kisses, fingertip stroking her asshole (it seemed tight) and perva riding and rolling: naughty sweetheart! Condoms dried a little, but was in another room. Then she took off and made &8203; &8203; a quick and delicious 69. We end with a delicious PPMM many kisses, loving girlfriend! RECOMENDADÍSSIMA and will replay on Mosaic, of course. SUMMARY £ 90. 00 per half-hour. Oral without cover and with gentle pressure. Meteção in all styles, said he does not do anal, but wants to be initiated in the arts. If you take too long, I'll take the gourd from her ass![/QUOTE]Se demorarem muito, eu tirarei o cabaço do cuzinho dela!

If others don't do it before me, I will be the one to break in her virgin ass, to break her ass' hymen.

I am not trying to make fun of you, just provide a way for us that speak Portuguese to read the real stuff instead of this funny hilarious translation. I don't think that google ever will be able to translate such funny language. You have to be a monger to understand this portuguese. It is meant to be funny, it is colloquial.

I suggest a rule. Don't write about Brazil, unless you are in Brazil.

Attached is a pic of a nice latina bunda in Tijuana, and I will leave it at that.

Poucolocu, Golfino, Kid Cisco, Sperto. I look forward to your pics and reports. Til I'm in Rio again, ciao.

[QUOTE=Eric Cartman; 1280066]Hit 502 tonight. Was a themed party / festa,"Dia das Noivas" which apparently is day of the brides. Meaning all the chicks were wearing white lingerie including white fishnet stockings yum yum!

Seriously there were 4-5 very doable chicks at 502 including 2 slim little white girls (one looking incredibly slutty) , a cute young morena (who previously I've seen rocking the schoolgirl outfit) , and one black chick with an absolutely killer slim bod (she was straddling some guy in the main boate, basically dry humping him for 15 minutes as he untied her panties and let his fingers do the walking).

R$20 entrada (including 3 beers or waters) , R$220 for a suite for 1 hour. What's not to like? Well, OK, the facilities. And the fact that whenever I come back, I have to throw my clothes directly in the washer since they reek of smoke. But with high quality talent and reasonable prices, it's not a bad deal.

Best part. I sit down in the Metro to wait for the train at 11. 30pm, and the guy next to me on the seats, who is cradling his head in his hands, just starts puking right on the floor between his legs, splattering all over his shoes. With my ninja-style reflexes, I escape without a splash and he just keeps blowing chow. Rock on you crazy diamond![/QUOTE]I thought no fuma in termas? Not true

QUESTION: for pure daytime people like me, is there any time at Mosaico? In other words, what time do they open? I understand they are right at Vila Mimosa? Like just a block away? So there always is the VM option nearby. Too bad that VM is too dirty even for my humble taste.

Just saw I screwed up some formatting in my prior post and now it is too late to fix it. So I repost here.

[QUOTE]I punched stronger.[/QUOTE]If you read with an open flexible mind you might get the idea. Now if you are reading this with the idea that Google does the translation right, you might think domestic violence is happening and you should call the police.

"Soquei mais forte" I fucked her harder.

[QUOTE]"And she was shaking the water with his hand and moaning."[/QUOTE]Hilarious. I pictured her hand taking his hand, shaking it while immersing it in a water bucket.

Had no idea what that could mean. Knowing the Portuguese text is immensely helpful.

"e ela ficou apertando o lençol com a mão e gemendo." and she squeezed the bed sheet with her hand, moaning.

The N-word is the same thing. Get the gist that you were dealing with a dark skinned person, forget the rest of the translation.

So please: whenever you post a translation, post the original, or a link to it.

[QUOTE=Auriflama;1281427]I thought no fuma in termas? Not true[/QUOTE]4x4 allows smoking in the back bar (down the corridor, up the stairs, away from the main boate).

MC allows smoking in the small room on the same floor as the main boate, behind the glass door, near the stairs.

L'Uomo lets dirty Italians smoke in the bathroom. At least, I always see dirty Italians smoking in the bathroom.

502 has 2 boates. One is large and filled with blaring funk, the other is quieter, and filled with smokers.

In all these places, cigarettes are allowed, nothing more (no cigars). It's against the law but nobody stops it.

Popped into 4x4 tonight and bikinis and thongs are back! Not everyone is wearing them, but now there is a nice mix of dresses, shorts, short shorts and bikini thongs.

Possible options for those who find Rio too expensive or just want to experiment with other cities.

[url]http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/05/16/2802898/american-seeks-right-for-additional.html[/url]

[QUOTE=Eric Cartman;1281766]L'Uomo lets dirty Italians smoke in the bathroom. At least, I always see dirty Italians smoking in the bathroom.[/QUOTE]LOL, what do you mean by dirty Italians? How do you know they are dirty?

[QUOTE=Mangera; 1282249]Possible options for those who find Rio too expensive or just want to experiment with other cities.

[url]http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/05/16/2802898/american-seeks-right-for-additional.html[/url][/QUOTE]Thanks for the article, the more flights to Rio the better. I happen to like American airlines because they have a non-stop from JFK to Rio at 9:25 pm, good time for me. I just recently searched for a flight to Rio and noticed I can use my miles for an American flight to Rio business class. But unfortunately I am short a few miles but American allows you to put the flight on hold for 5 days, so I have already put it on hold twice, once it expires you put it on hold again and again unless someone else grabs hold before you do, they seem to have only 1 seat available on my date. I am waiting for my next credit card to come in and add more miles to my balance in order to purchase it, a couple of more weeks.

[QUOTE=Sangue Bon;1282418]LOL, what do you mean by dirty Italians? How do you know they are dirty?[/QUOTE]I was going to ask this. I happen to be of Italian descent and my hygiene is impecable.

By the way I was just in Italy and I found out from fellow Italians that Rio is the number one sex destination for Italian men. You cannot mention Rio without Italians thinking that you are a sex tourist. My customer told me that if he told his wife that he was going to Rio she would cut his ganuchi's off.

[QUOTE=HungryStud101; 1282432]I was going to ask this. I happen to be of Italian descent and my hygiene is impecable.

By the way I was just in Italy and I found out from fellow Italians that Rio is the number one sex destination for Italian men. You cannot mention Rio without Italians thinking that you are a sex tourist. My customer told me that if he told his wife that he was going to Rio she would cut his ganuchi's off.[/QUOTE]Queria dizer "safados".

PartmarBeleza1,

PartmarBeleza1 : My comments were not racist a. (This is so sad you still don't get it? For the 100th time the " N " word is a racist word for whatever reason you felt you needed to post that offensive word on a forum is still unknown at this point no one really cares as long you don't and are unable to do it again) PartnarBeleza1: I posted a translation b. (WHY?) who in their right mind wanted to read a foul offensive racist word in any language accept you?

PartmarBeleza1 : This forum is mainly people not in Brazil. c. And ? This is the only thing you seem to have got correct this site have close to 300, 000 members this forum and the Asia forum and others gets lots of traffic were guys can post reports, and ask for advice about finding females when they travel overseas of course many people wouldn't be living in Brazil since this is a English speaking site, this isn't a site to translate foul offensive words from other languages into English. BTW IF you want to take your ball and run and go home because no one want to play by your "rules" in this case take your pictures and posts and leave. Why not you just leave because no one will shed a tear I know I won't! After reading two of your long post and the one with the offensive word in it I didn't feel the need to read anymore they all seem like they were saying the same thing and beside at that point you turned me and many off..

I hope others can NOW realize and see what many of us have already knew by reading your post with the "N" word in it that you are what we thought you were after being asked not to post it again you still felt the need to post it again and again. Now since the owner have told you and stated to you the rules of the site after some of us have made attempts to. Now you ready to take your ball and go home LOL? This ONLY shows many of us your real reason for posting that word on here because there were absolutely no justification for posting it in the 1st place. As I said before why not show some class and some goodwill and move on...by you still acting in this spoiled manner I hope you realize this will only take away from your posts..

Kid Cisco

[QUOTE=PatmarBeleza1; 1282862]Using racist language. I didn't do this. I posted a translation, which has been explained by at least 3 members as not offensive in the original portugese. Delete my report. I asked to have my report deleted. The rules of the forum say I have that right.[/QUOTE]I will try one more time to clarify this for you. In Portuguese, the word from which you quoted was "neguinho". In Portuguese this colloquialism is not an offensive word. It has no literal translation to English. When a computerized translation results in an offensive word it is your responsibility to edit or accept the translation. When you receive four or five comments that you are using an offensive word it should be obvious that you made the wrong decision. You were repeatedly advised that "neguinho" was not offensive in Portuguese but not one member supported your choice to use the N-word in English. The N-word word should never used in social communication. You should have learned this in high school as well as your military training. It is time that you learn from this experience and move on.

Termas Monte Carlo in the news, police investigation.

[url]http://g1.globo.com/rio-de-janeiro/noticia/2012/05/policial-do-rio-e-investigado-por-fazer-seguranca-de-casa-de-prostituicao.html[/url]

It would be nice to read some Rio reports instead of the sad panda posts.

It was my first day in Rio so decided to call Scort Show. In the morning before catching the Jet leg sleep, I dated Bruna, new chick, from Scort Show who's 5 8' tall. 19, and fairly new in this line of work. I had one of best programma of this year with her and assured to do repeat with her next week. Ordered Dominos, took a 4 hour nap and called Scort Show at 8pm. Nevertheless, be cautious of your choice of selecting the precise girl because I end up paying R$77 taxi fare or ditching fee for Kiara who's not completa. It was my first day so I was looking forward for a nice programma. In spite of this, the agency sent 19 why old Cristal, who got good reviews on gp. Guia web. It was a pleasant sexo including completa.

On Friday, I habitually do 4 x 4, but this time was distinctive. May be I misunderstood from someone's previous post about 4 x 4 waiving the entrada fee if I go into the Terma before 6pm. Anyone who's familiar with Rio traffic that a cab ride from Copa to Centro is a horrendous during Friday evening. I typically strike a deal for R$20 for Centro sem metro. Thus, I caught a cab front of Kice Suco around 5:15pm. The motorista de taxi did his finest to get me there on time. His efforts ultimately paid off when he droped me in front of 4 x 4 at 5:58pm.

I only went upstairs to found out that I will be the first client of the day to pay the entrada fee. Then again, I had plan B if I'm delayed which is to test out Cancun before going back to 4 x 4. As a result, I walked two blocks to Rua de Carmo, and entered Cancun. Cancan had decent amount of chicks on Friday. The ratio was 2 chicks per 1 client. The top 5 stunners were engaged as usual. Nonetheless, I was fortunate to find one of their top 5 stunners. I apologize for not remembering her name but you can't miss her. She's roughly 22 why old, a sizzling tall morena, almost 6 feet with heels.

I briefly chitchat with her in the boate about being interested in buying a 1 bedroom apartment in Copa area, and her views on future of Rio real estate market. After my second Bohemia, I took her upstairs. I must admit that Cancun got one of the finest cabins, than 4 x 4, or Tier 1 Copa Termas. Time fly more rapidly when you're with someone you really like. She wouldn't allow pics, so I move on to the action. I bought 2 for $5 travel size Victoria Secrets lotions, so gave her a little message, followed by a 30 mins sexo, finishing with a nice completa drive.

Cancun also has a rational price structure. The R$60 entrada fee will be accredited toward your consumption of drinks, which is utterly fine with me. However, I wasn't fully aware of this program, so I still had some money left towards consumption, even after 2 beers, and 2 rum and diet coke. Paid the R$240 (1 hr) , + R$60 entrada with consumption, for a total of R$300 with my Am Express credit card. I wouldn't regret ditching 4 x 4, because I have already grasped from my prior trip that late evening on Friday is the worst time to hit 4 x 4, if you're looking for the top stunners. Thus, no worries and I consider tonight as one of my best time ever in Cancun.

I don't know of any Terma who does promos on Sat. I have scheduled Luomo for Sunday at 4:50pm, to save a R$90 or US$50 entrada fee, as well as getting an advantage of receiving a free entrada Mon to Fri, if I pay my bill on with Cash. By the way, I exchanged $800 yesterday at 1. 98 exchange rate from Cambio at Xavier de Silvera.

[blue]Greetings Everyone.

This discussion regarding the "N" word stops now.

The next person who posts even the remotest reference to this subject will be banned without comment.

The purpose of this Forum is to provide for the exchange of information between Men on the subject of finding Women for Sex.

Let's get back to the subject.

Thank You,

Jackson[/blue]

[QUOTE=ChrisDrug; 1282927]It was my first day in Rio so decided to call Scort Show. In the morning before catching the Jet leg sleep, I dated Bruna, new chick, from Scort Show who's 5 8' tall. 19, and fairly new in this line of work. I had one of best programma of this year with her and assured to do repeat with her next week. Ordered Dominos, took a 4 hour nap and called Scort Show at 8pm. Nevertheless, be cautious of your choice of selecting the precise girl because I end up paying R$77 taxi fare or ditching fee for Kiara who's not completa. It was my first day so I was looking forward for a nice programma. In spite of this, the agency sent 19 why old Cristal, who got good reviews on gp. Guia web. It was a pleasant sexo including completa.

On Friday, I habitually do 4 x 4, but this time was distinctive. May be I misunderstood from someone's previous post about 4 x 4 waiving the entrada fee if I go into the Terma before 6pm. Anyone who's familiar with Rio traffic that a cab ride from Copa to Centro is a horrendous during Friday evening. I typically strike a deal for R$20 for Centro sem metro. Thus, I caught a cab front of Kice Suco around 5:15pm. The motorista de taxi did his finest to get me there on time. His efforts ultimately paid off when he droped me in front of 4 x 4 at 5:58pm.

I only went upstairs to found out that I will be the first client of the day to pay the entrada fee. Then again, I had plan B if I'm delayed which is to test out Cancun before going back to 4 x 4. As a result, I walked two blocks to Rua de Carmo, and entered Cancun. Cancan had decent amount of chicks on Friday. The ratio was 2 chicks per 1 client. The top 5 stunners were engaged as usual. Nonetheless, I was fortunate to find one of their top 5 stunners. I apologize for not remembering her name but you can't miss her. She's roughly 22 why old, a sizzling tall morena, almost 6 feet with heels.

I briefly chitchat with her in the boate about being interested in buying a 1 bedroom apartment in Copa area, and her views on future of Rio real estate market. After my second Bohemia, I took her upstairs. I must admit that Cancun got one of the finest cabins, than 4 x 4, or Tier 1 Copa Termas. Time fly more rapidly when you're with someone you really like. She wouldn't allow pics, so I move on to the action. I bought 2 for $5 travel size Victoria Secrets lotions, so gave her a little message, followed by a 30 mins sexo, finishing with a nice completa drive.

Cancun also has a rational price structure. The R$60 entrada fee will be accredited toward your consumption of drinks, which is utterly fine with me. However, I wasn't fully aware of this program, so I still had some money left towards consumption, even after 2 beers, and 2 rum and diet coke. Paid the R$240 (1 hr) , + R$60 entrada with consumption, for a total of R$300 with my Am Express credit card. I wouldn't regret ditching 4 x 4, because I have already grasped from my prior trip that late evening on Friday is the worst time to hit 4 x 4, if you're looking for the top stunners. Thus, no worries and I consider tonight as one of my best time ever in Cancun.

I don't know of any Terma who does promos on Sat. I have scheduled Luomo for Sunday at 4:50pm, to save a R$90 or US$50 entrada fee, as well as getting an advantage of receiving a free entrada Mon to Fri, if I pay my bill on with Cash. By the way, I exchanged $800 yesterday at 1. 98 exchange rate from Cambio at Xavier de Silvera.[/QUOTE]ChrisDrug,

You need to not only get to 4x4 by 6:00pm you also need to pick a girl and do a session BEFORE 6:00pm you just can't just go in the door before 6:00pm it use to be do a session before 5:00pm I was there a few months ago for 3 weeks back then the rate of reals to dollar was 1. 82 which at that time I THOUGHT was good BUT now it is around 2. 00 reals to the dollar so you pick a good time to go there.

The traffic seem to always be insane downtown to me in Rio it's better to take the Metro train for 3.20 reals ( unless they went up ) and walk to the Tier 1 termas like 4x4,65, etc. take a look at Bubba Boy guide it will tell you what stop to get off at etc.. I walked around at night by myself going to 4x4 and 65 and then to Cancun at late times when I was there a few months ago without any problems I hated 502 the music gave me a headache and the people seem to be on the lower end I saw one chick there that looked ok BUT the prices were low compare to the other Termas..

Have fun,

Kid Cisco

[QUOTE=Kid Cisco; 1283101]ChrisDrug,

You need to not only get to 4x4 by 6:00pm you also need to pick a girl and do a session BEFORE 6:00pm you just can't just go in the door before 6:00pm it use to be do a session before 5:00pm I was there a few months ago for 3 weeks back then the rate of reals to dollar was 1. 82 which at that time I THOUGHT was good BUT now it is around 2. 00 reals to the dollar so you pick a good time to go there.

The traffic seem to always be insane downtown to me in Rio it's better to take the Metro train for 3. 20 reals (unless they went up) and walk to the Tier 1 termas like 4x4, 65, etc. Take a look at Bubba Boy guide it will tell you what stop to get off at etc. I walked around at night by myself going to 4x4 and 65 and then to Cancun at late times when I was there a few months ago without any problems I hated 502 the music gave me a headache and the people seem to be on the lower end I saw one chick there that looked ok BUT the prices were low compare to the other Termas.

Have fun,

Kid Cisco[/QUOTE]Kis Cisco is right, I use the metro. The last train back to Copa is 1130pm. I always get a round trip ticket. If I stay too late at a terma, then I spend money on a cab or the R2. 50 cheap vans back to Copa. The metro or the taxi is the safest late at night. But I never had a problem in metro because I'm too close to sober and I walk fast. Notice most Brasileiros walk fast and keep their heads moving if walking alone. See the zona sul metro map attached. You can get off between Uruguaiana and Carioca stations and have a modest walk to 4 x 4 and other metro termas and casas. Never take a bus or cab during Rio's rush hour.

[quote=ipanema carioca;1283131]kis cisco is right, i use the metro. the last train back to copa is 1130pm. i always get a round trip ticket. if i stay too late at a terma, then i spend money on a cab or the r2. 50 cheap vans back to copa. the metro or the taxi is the safest late at night. but i never had a problem in metro because i'm too close to sober and i walk fast. notice most brasileiros walk fast and keep their heads moving if walking alone. see the zona sul metro map attached. you can get off between uruguaiana and carioca stations and have a modest walk to 4 x 4 and other metro termas and casas. never take a bus or cab during rio's rush hour.[/quote]i'm familiar with metro system of rio. i have lived nearly 10 months straight in rio back in 2007. i can't forget hitting local no pro rio night clubs with local friends and ended up banging non pros quite a few times. however, according to my math, cab ride doesn't cost me much. a smirnoff or other imported beer in 4 x 4 is almost r$10-12. to each his own, but i regard my time valuable now more than ever. my point is that i'm not that guy anymore who will fritter over 2 hrs in the boate to make his selection on an exceptional garota. two imported beers in 4 x 4 cost me almost r$24. on the other hand, two imported beers from supermecado expense me no more than r$5 in total. also, metro during evening is so jam-packed, as well as detriment of me a total of an hour+ traveling time door to door.

my strategy is to take a quick shower in my apartment, grab 2 imported beers from refrigerator, catch a cab outside my building and get off in front of 4 x 4 entrance for a r$20 (cab fare) + r$5 (2 imported beers) which i drink in cab during my ride to centro instead of take a subdued train ride and paying r$24 to 4 x 4 for drinking two beers in the boate. when i do my math, i reason that i'm making the right decision in my case.

today is sat, and i called scort show again at 5pm. unfortunately, it seemed like lidiane is having a bad day. i even confirmed with the the scort show if the chick is completa. upon her arrival, she informed me that she's going home for the weekend so she won't be performing completa for over 5 mins. later on, her mind-set made me felt like charging her for forcing me to orgasm with a cold fish. after about an hour, i told her to pick her stuff and speed up to catch the next bus back home without orgazmo.

i decided to take a 4 hrs snooze, in order to check out balcony for the first time this trip. if you have read my post from prior rio aug 2011 trip, you will be acquainted with that i was robbed for almost $2500 during my first night back in aug 2011. however, my debit and credit card companies gave me a refund for almost $1700 after 90 days of investigation. i must have been labeled as the top 5 list of robbed casualty among balcony's gdp network.

I'm friends with La Dolce Vita's owner. Please don't give me crap over this because it's true that finally I'm a self made 3 million dollar man who own 9 apartments and 1 shop in a brand new mall in Romania, and acquire $9000+ rental revenue per month from my apartments for life including my term deposit accounts in Europe. I'm okay in the looks, as well as intellectual department otherwise I wouldn't have a 5 10' 22 why old Hungarian super model look alike dying to meet me every night while I was in London for a complete sexo.

There were only 3 or 4 doable in balcony tonight, IMO, among 70+ garotas. I chatted with La Dolce Vita owner too for 20 mins who I consider as my uncle.

The overnight scene is long gone in Copa. There were only 3 or 4 doable chiks among 70 plus garotas who were asking everyone for R$300 for 2 hrs minimum. Consequently, I said good luck to them and walked to McDonalds at 4:30am, grabbed a meal and went home to take a nice sleep before hitting Luomo tom. IMHO, its always better to hit organized spots in Brasil, such as, Termas or agencies, because independent chiks are dangerous, as well as, there isn't any guarantee for anything.

woke up around but took another nap so i can fully sober up. it's amazing how professional school will teach you the genuine significance of time. got up at 3:55pm, took a speedy shower, grabbed two beers from refrigerator, went downstairs and caught a cab at 4:35 pm. he dropped me in front of 143 rua siquera campos at 4:40pm. i finished my two beers while walking around cheking the shops. i went upstairs at 4:58pm. i was surprised to check out that all the girls were new except 1, as i remember. the ratio was 4 chicks per 1 client.

i ended up pounding a nice tall 23 why old loirinha who got a killer stripper type body and believe me she knows how to dance. took her to cabin, bj sem camisinha for 3 mins, sexo for 20 mins, and a enchanting complete ride for almost 15 mins. she was a tigress in bed. it's the superlative sunday of the year for me. i drank 4 bohemia, and 2 rum and diet coke, including 40 mins cabin and my bill came out to r$351 (r$80 was waived) , which is not bad. by the way, they no longer are promoting the mon-fri free entrada if you crash into luomo on sunday. however, i think it's better to take advantage of the free entrada, in order to get a appropriate tab.

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[QUOTE=ChrisDrug;1283172]I'm familiar with metro system of Rio. I have lived nearly 10 months straight in Rio back in 2007.[/QUOTE]What type of visa allowed you to stay in Brazil for 10 months?

[QUOTE=ChrisDrug; 1283276]I'm friends with La Dolce Vita's owner. Please don't give me crap over this because it's true that finally I'm a self made 3 million dollar man who own 9 apartments and 1 shop in a brand new mall in Romania, and acquire $9000+ rental revenue per month from my apartments for life including my term deposit accounts in Europe. I'm okay in the looks, as well as intellectual department otherwise I wouldn't have a 5 10' 22 why old Hungarian super model look alike dying to meet me every night while I was in London for a complete sexo.

There were only 3 or 4 doable in balcony tonight, IMO, among 70+ garotas. I chatted with La Dolce Vita owner too for 20 mins who I consider as my uncle.

The overnight scene is long gone in Copa. There were only 3 or 4 doable chiks among 70 plus garotas who were asking everyone for R$300 for 2 hrs minimum. Consequently, I said good luck to them and walked to McDonalds at 4:30am, grabbed a meal and went home to take a nice sleep before hitting Luomo tom. IMHO, its always better to hit organized spots in Brasil, such as, Termas or agencies, because independent chiks are dangerous, as well as, there isn't any guarantee for anything.[/QUOTE]I don't know why, but the only thing that comes to my mind after reading this report....................... Is the Woody WoodPecker Laugh! My apologies for not attempting to spell out the Woody WoodPecker laugh, because if I did try, it would be an injustice to Woody Woodpecker who I consider as my uncle.

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Xan2dkMouM[/url]

[B]Jackie. 4x4[/B]

After a long crappy flight I arrived in Rio bright and early Friday morning, grabbed a taxi and headed to the apartment. Crashed for a few hours then got things squared away with the owner, hit the supermercado, bank etc and was ready to go to Centro.

Caught the bus and was in front of the doors at 4x4 30 minutes later. No changes in the T. The entrada is waived if you go up for a session before 6pm. As long as you are in front of the ladies at the desk before 6 you are good to go. Cabine rates are $220 for 40 minutes, $240 for 1 hours, with Super Suite starting at $280 for 1 hour I believe.

I wandered into the boate area and chatted with a few chicas I have known for awhile and checked out the others. The garotas are back in bikinis as well as other attire ranging from lingerie, to short shorts. A couple of lookers already occupied so I grabbed a Guarana, relaxed, and took in the scenery. I found my eyes kept coming back to a lovely ass attached to a firm body, nice tits, and a pretty face. I've seen her before but have never sessioned with her. We chatted for a bit, just the usual name, age where you from dance, then headed upstairs. Took 1 hour in a cabine for $240, she grabbed the key and condoms, and we headed up another set of stairs. No cabines available immediately so we relaxed a bit, chatted a bit, and kissed a bit. A cabine opened up downstairs after about 10 minutes so back down we go. The cabines are ok, small with a shower and a good sized bed.

A quick shower and we were on the bed getting to know each other better. Her skin got the goose bumps as my tongue made its way down her body, responsive nips stood at attention, and she was soon grinding her puss looking for some attention. A little DATY all the while running my finger along her butt crack, and soon I had her in the '6-pack grip' with her moving that ass back against my hand. She stopped me with a smile on her face, pulled me up from the Y and pushed me onto my back. A good BBBJ was followed up with some cowgirl, reverse cg, and we finished off doggie with me looking at her ass.

All in all a great session and I was once again exhausted. A shower, another water, a cerveja for an old amiga and I headed back to Copa.

[B]Date of encounter: 18 May 2012[/B]

Name: Jackie.

Age: 22.

Languages: Portuguese.

[B]Making Contact[/B]

How did you find her: chica watching in the boate.

Link: na.

Did she match her pics: no pics.

Percentage Photoshop: na.

Was she on time: na.

Neighborhood: Centro, Rua Buenos Aires 44.

[B]Does she or doesn't she[/B]

Anal: Didn't ask but probably as she didn't mind my fingers up there.

Oral w or w / o: w / o, good BBBJ, enthusiastic, lots of tongue action.

Kissing: good kisser,

Any restrictions: none came up but didn't ask about anal.

[B]How would you rate her[/B]

Face: 7, pretty girl, not a stunner but definitely easy on the eyes.

Tits: 7, not huge, not small but just right for her body,

Ass: 8, very nice ass, more than 1 person watching her ass as she was walking around the boate.

Body: 8, very nice overall, tight and firm (she works out) long, straight dark hair, light morena,

[B]Level of Service[/B]

Enthusiastic or Business-Like: enthusiastic, was open to all I asked for.

Clock Watcher: not at all.

Her strong point: her ass, it was a delight to watch and I will have to see about tapping it.

Her weak point: none that I noticed.

$$$ & Time: $276 reals included drinks. 1 hour, no entrada as I went upstairs before 6pm.

Overall Rating of Encounter: 7. 5.

Do you recommend: yes and if someone else tries her out please report if she is completa. If I repeat it will be because she is.

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Nice report, thanks.

[QUOTE=LuvnLatinas; 1283737][B]Jackie. 4x4[/B]

After a long crappy flight I arrived in Rio bright and early Friday morning, grabbed a taxi and headed to the apartment. Crashed for a few hours then got things squared away with the owner, hit the supermercado, bank etc and was ready to go to Centro.

Caught the bus and was in front of the doors at 4x4 30 minutes later. No changes in the T. The entrada is waived if you go up for a session before 6pm. As long as you are in front of the ladies at the desk before 6 you are good to go. Cabine rates are $220 for 40 minutes, $240 for 1 hours, with Super Suite starting at $280 for 1 hour I believe.

I wandered into the boate area and chatted with a few chicas I have known for awhile and checked out the others. The garotas are back in bikinis as well as other attire ranging from lingerie, to short shorts. A couple of lookers already occupied so I grabbed a Guarana, relaxed, and took in the scenery. I found my eyes kept coming back to a lovely ass attached to a firm body, nice tits, and a pretty face. I've seen her before but have never sessioned with her. We chatted for a bit, just the usual name, age where you from dance, then headed upstairs. Took 1 hour in a cabine for $240, she grabbed the key and condoms, and we headed up another set of stairs. No cabines available immediately so we relaxed a bit, chatted a bit, and kissed a bit. A cabine opened up downstairs after about 10 minutes so back down we go. The cabines are ok, small with a shower and a good sized bed.

A quick shower and we were on the bed getting to know each other better. Her skin got the goose bumps as my tongue made its way down her body, responsive nips stood at attention, and she was soon grinding her puss looking for some attention. A little DATY all the while running my finger along her butt crack, and soon I had her in the '6-pack grip' with her moving that ass back against my hand. She stopped me with a smile on her face, pulled me up from the Y and pushed me onto my back. A good BBBJ was followed up with some cowgirl, reverse cg, and we finished off doggie with me looking at her ass.

All in all a great session and I was once again exhausted. A shower, another water, a cerveja for an old amiga and I headed back to Copa.

[B]Date of encounter: 18 May 2012[/B]

Name: Jackie.

Age: 22.

Languages: Portuguese.

[B]Making Contact[/B]

How did you find her: chica watching in the boate.

Link: na.

Did she match her pics: no pics.

Percentage Photoshop: na.

Was she on time: na.

Neighborhood: Centro, Rua Buenos Aires 44.

[B]Does she or doesn't she[/B]

Anal: Didn't ask but probably as she didn't mind my fingers up there.

Oral w or w / o: w / o, good BBBJ, enthusiastic, lots of tongue action.

Kissing: good kisser,

Any restrictions: none came up but didn't ask about anal.

[B]How would you rate her[/B]

Face: 7, pretty girl, not a stunner but definitely easy on the eyes.

Tits: 7, not huge, not small but just right for her body,

Ass: 8, very nice ass, more than 1 person watching her ass as she was walking around the boate.

Body: 8, very nice overall, tight and firm (she works out) long, straight dark hair, light morena,

[B]Level of Service[/B]

Enthusiastic or Business-Like: enthusiastic, was open to all I asked for.

Clock Watcher: not at all.

Her strong point: her ass, it was a delight to watch and I will have to see about tapping it.

Her weak point: none that I noticed.

$$$ & Time: $276 reals included drinks. 1 hour, no entrada as I went upstairs before 6pm.

Overall Rating of Encounter: 7. 5.

Do you recommend: yes and if someone else tries her out please report if she is completa. If I repeat it will be because she is.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=PatmarBeleza1;1283810]Nice report, thanks.[/QUOTE]There is no need to quote the entire post but just a sentence for referral, especially if you just write 3 words. Taking away too much and useless screen space.

[QUOTE=LuvnLatinas; 1283737][B]Jackie. 4x4[/B]

I arrived in Rio bright and early Friday morning, grabbed a taxi and headed to the apartment. Crashed for a few hours then got things squared away with the owner, hit the supermercado, bank etc and was ready to go to Centro.[/QUOTE]I like your report, but this is the best part to me! It's the best feeling to arrive in Rio to prepare for a great stay. My favorite sensation is the moldy Rio airport smell as I exit the plane into the airport and walk that window corridor to the custom lines. I just want to say at that point, fuck everything in the USA!

But great report!

I was bowled over to found out that almost all the chiks from scort show were booked by 9am on a Monday morning, except Pricilla. Someone is throwing a huge party. As I ran out of options, I caught a cab to centro to check out Bel Prazer. Bel Prazer got not as good as talent from my last year trip. I saw a chick name Kelly, a young tall blond, who just got occupied when I arrived at 11am. By the way, Bubba guide is remarkable, yet someone please update him that nova massagem address is changed. I rang the bell at Av. Rio Branco 181 apt 801 and saw workplace furniture with staff glued to their desk.

Anyway, I went on to the next centro casa on Av. Rio Branco 156. It was my first trip to Duda massagem. Their location is splendid and it's build up as residential apartments building on top of a shopping mall. The view from 33rd floor where duda is situated is marvelous. I read few pages of Bubba's guide this morning and he's enormously correct that a high price doesn't assure a high class service. I paid for R$115 for 1 hr with young tall blond with a world class ass for a comleta programma. It's the second most excellent programma of this year so far. I gave my word to pay a visit to her on Thursday morning too.

This pic was taken last year after I woke up and become conscious that I have been robbed for over $2500 by a Balcony shabby working girl who by some means opened my locked suitcase with a knife or something. I was at Balcony last Sat night and it will be my first and last visit to Balcony for this trip. It was an utter waste of time. The quality was further than poor. First, I had to spend almost ½ hour to switch my apartment into theft proof. Secondly, upon arriving I barely saw 2 or 3 doable among 70+ garotas. On top of that, they were asking prices like they just ended their stint at Terma Centaurus.

Jackie (or Jack / Jaque) is completa. She was my first 4x4 girl in Sep 2010. I came 3 times in an hour, which she announced to the towel girls in the hallway with me naked in the cabine.

ISG had some pictures of her here.

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2194-Photo-Gallery/page9[/url]

From Satyr23 on 10/15/2011.

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2194-Photo-Gallery/page10[/url]

From sparkinater on 10/7/2011.

She has reviews on the Brazilian boards here.

[url]http://www.hotforum.com.br/forum_posts.asp?TID=5234&PN=60[/url]

Jack.

The Jack is a brunette babe, body healed, silicone chest and ass, a delight. I preferred to wait this brunette down the program to leave with another. Meanwhile almost climbed because of infestidas Lara (I think the name Stephen Fry). I also soft and could not come up with Lana or (Andrea?) A spectacular brunette has some tattoos and the body peitão silicone. Does anyone know who is? Well, back to Jack, she kissed well and has a clit big, and fun to be sucked. He made &8203; &8203; a pretty average blowjob. The downside is that there no longer enjoy in the mouth, as promised. Just being outside. But still I m positive because she was friendly and has a delicious body.

Jack.

A Jack é uma morena gata, de corpo sarado, silicone no peito e na bunda, uma delicia. Preferi esperar essa morena descer do programa a sair com outra. Nesse meio tempo quase subi por causa das infestidas the Lara (eu acho que éssse o nome). Dei mole e também andão consegui subir com a Lana ou (Andreia?) uma morena espetacular que tem umas tatuagens pelo corpo e peitão de silicone. Alguém sabe quem é?

Bom, voltando a Jack, ela beijou bem e tem um grelo grandão, bem gostoso de ser chupado. Fez um boquete bem mediano. O ponto negativo é que andão deixou gozar dentro the boquinha, conforme o prometido. Acabou sendo na parte externa.

Mas mesmo assim dou positivo pq ela foi mt simpática e tem um corpo delicioso.

[url]http://www.hotforum.com.br/forum_posts.asp?TID=7766&KW=4x4&PN=160[/url]

It was a classic! 17:30 I got one (missed promotion) but the house was empty suprendentemente. One time I was chatting with a very cachorrona pumped, through Raimunda, I forgot her name is. The old Dai asked Bachelor to stay more comfortable and I was hooked by Jack, brunette with dark skin and ass hard. Paca tasty and complete. Come up with her! Hot pacas, however quite burrocratica. Then put TD! I went, I went back to the sauna and a mess, I was a little until you find the chimbação Lorraine. I was a dalliance with her &8203; &8203; and ended up as usual. Fucking awesome, she gave a thin, but still a badass, breast, ass will not stop fucking. The opposite of Jack. Anyway, after tell you more, I'm on the run!

Foi um CLássico!

Cheguei umas 17h30 (perdi a promoção) mas a casa estava suprendentemente vazia.

Fiquei um tempo trocando uma I'déia com uma cachorrona muito bombada, meio raimunda, esqueci o nome dela é das antigas.

Dai pedi licenç pra ficar mais a vontade e fui fisgado pela Jaque, morena de pele escura e bunda dura. Gostosa paca e completa. Subi com ela! Gostosa pacas, no entanto bastante burrocratica. Depois posto TD!

Desci, fiz uma sauna e voltei pra bagunça, fiquei um pouco de chimbação até achar a Lorraine. Fiquei de namorico com ela e acabei subindo como sempre. Foda sensacional, ela deu uma emagrecida, mas continua um fodão, mama, á o seeú, andão para de foder. O contráRio the Jaque.

Enfim, depois conto mais, estou na corrida!

[QUOTE=LuvnLatinas; 1283737][B]Jackie. 4x4[/B]

A quick shower and we were on the bed getting to know each other better. Her skin got the goose bumps as my tongue made its way down her body, responsive nips stood at attention, and she was soon grinding her puss looking for some attention. A little DATY all the while running my finger along her butt crack, and soon I had her in the '6-pack grip' with her moving that ass back against my hand. She stopped me with a smile on her face, pulled me up from the Y and pushed me onto my back. A good BBBJ was followed up with some cowgirl, reverse cg, and we finished off doggie with me looking at her ass.

All in all a great session and I was once again exhausted. A shower, another water, a cerveja for an old amiga and I headed back to Copa.

[B]Date of encounter: 18 May 2012[/B]

Name: Jackie.

Age: 22.

Do you recommend: yes and if someone else tries her out please report if she is completa. If I repeat it will be because she is.[/QUOTE]

Get her number and see if you can get her to a centro motel, maybe Villa Reggia.

Villa Regia Rua Sacadura Cabral. 136 (21) 2223-4104.

[url]http://www.villareggia.com.br/[/url]

If you haven't done the Rio sex motels yet, I suggest it. Less risk on pernoite theft too because the front desk generally calls you to let the girl in and out.

[QUOTE=ChrisDrug;1283855]Anyway, I went on to the next centro casa on Av. Rio Branco 156. It was my first trip to Duda massagem. Their location is splendid and it's build up as residential apartments building on top of a shopping mall. The view from 33rd floor where duda is situated is marvelous. I read few pages of Bubba's guide this morning and he's enormously correct that a high price doesn't assure a high class service. I paid for R$115 for 1 hr with young tall blond with a world class ass for a comleta programma. It's the second most excellent programma of this year so far. I gave my word to pay a visit to her on Thursday morning too.[/QUOTE]

felt a little lazy tonight and couldn't get the drive to head to a t in centro so went to terma monte carlo instead. checked in and was told my entry was free woohoo! monte carlo has a 'loyalty program' where your entry is free after you have spent a certain amount there. you put your finger on a scanner each time you enter the place and the amount you spend is added up until you hit the magic number. i think it is 700 reals but cannot say for sure.

got changed and went upstairs to the boate. grabbed a water, talked to a couple of girls i knew, and had to peel one off me that didn't want to let go. there was a few decent looking girls, a couple of blondes that were very nice but had awful freakin tattoos on their backs and up the side. i don't mind tattoos but not huge ugly sheet. saw monique from my april stay in rio so i waved her over and we chatted about what we did since april. after a bit we went upstairs for a 40 minute session in a cabine. the cabines in mc are very small and have no shower. you need to shower on the 2nd floor. i usually do this before entering the boate area.

once we entered the cabine monique turned her back to me and started to grind her ass into my crotch. i reached around her, running my hands over her tits, stomach and puss. she actually grabbed my finger and moved it from her puss to her butt-hole, telling me to finger her ass! yes! we shed our clothes and i wasted no time getting my face between her thighs wanting to keep her motor revving. she again grabbed my hand and put it at her butt-hole. ok i don't need to be hit over the head! lol. a little daty, finger in her butt, and in a very short time she was pulling me up and telling me i needed to fuck her ass. oh baby i think i am in luv! hahaha. she put the cover on me, guided my dick to her back door and asked me to go slow. she needed no extra lube, ky, or anything and soon i was buried in her. slowly she started to rock back and forth while i just held still letting her control the pace. a few minutes of that and she was going faster telling me ' mete, mete, mete'. i gave her what she asked for until i could give no more. i was beat, my legs were like jello, and i had a smile a mile wide. if i was too google 'adoro sexo anal' i am sure monique's photo would be 1st.

[b]date of encounter: 21 may 2012[/b]

name: monique.

age: 27.

languages: portuguese.

[b]making contact[/b]

how did you find her: know her from april.

link: na.

did she match her pics: no pics.

percentage photoshop: na.

was she on time: na.

neighborhood: copa, terma monte carlo, rua hilario de gouvea 19.

[b]does she or doesn't she[/b]

anal: yes yes yes! she loved it!

oral w or w / o: w / o, good bbbj not great.

kissing: very good kisser,

any restrictions: none.

[b]how would you rate her[/b]

face: 7, pretty brunette.

tits: 7, silicone but not huge or exaggerated,

ass: 9, fantastic ass,

body: 7, normal brasileira with a great butt

[b]level of service[/b]

enthusiastic or business-like: very, very enthusiastic,

clock watcher: not even once,

her strong point: her ass, and the fact she loved my dick in it.

her weak point: bj, was ok but nothing to write about.

$$$ & time: $313 reals included drinks. 40 minutes, entrada was free via 'loyalty program'

overall rating of encounter: 8.

do you recommend: my 2nd time with her so yes most definitely would recommend her

[QUOTE=PatmarBeleza1;1283960]Jackie (or Jack / Jaque) is completa. She was my first 4x4 girl in Sep 2010. I came 3 times in an hour, which she announced to the towel girls in the hallway with me naked in the cabine.[/QUOTE]Excellent! Thanks for the info Pat. I can't tell from the pics but the Brazilian reports are definitely her! I may have to repeat with her. LOL

Yesterday, after an outstanding completa programma with a duda massgem blond who got an ass like the pornstar Alexis Texas, I went back to Copa. I'm staying a near Rua Miguel Lemos, a corner from Dominos Pizza so I ordered a fresh pizza at 3pm, and went directly to bed for a catnap. I suppose I'm doing Rio like how I manage my timeframe between my work and business school. Accordingly, I woke up from an 8pm alarm buzz, took a quick shower, grabbed 2 smirnoffs (R$2. 50 each from Pao de Azucar, compared to R$11 each at 4 x 4) , got a cab front of Kice Suco again at 9pm, and arrived front of 4 x 4 door at 9. 30.

It's my primary visit to 4 x 4 for this trip so I was new to the practice of semi nude outfits. I observed that some chiks appeared sexier and other mediocre with the new dress code. I ordered me a Heineken and waited about 40 mins to check out the jumbo ass parade. If truth be told, I was waiting for a tall model type morena name Viviane whom I banged during my last trip. I saw her chitchatting with a Brasilero at the reception when I arrived but she's nowhere to be found in the boate for almost 45 mins. It was almost 10:15 so I made my move. I was having a laugh in my mind over Bubba's comments over 'Jumping like a cobra in the face of the desired chick' in the attendance of a large number of working girl mongers.

Consequently, I did snatch a 5 8' tall, early 20s, hot blond name Amanda the moment she entered the boate. Our Chemistry was pleasant from the start. I bought her a Stella Artious beer, and ordered me a run and a diet coke. In brief, spoke to her about her expertise on investing in a property in Rio and asked about her awareness on the rising rental cost of apartments in South Rio. I have already started doing my homework on getting a business visa so I can open a business bank account when I will arrive in Aug 2012.

Anyhow, she refused pics, so I moved on the deed. I performed a quick massage on her miraculous body, a robust sexo for ½ hour, concluding with a shuddering orgasm A-Level style. I pledged to meet her on Wed night. Guys, the US$ is getting stronger by the day, so I'm thinking about buying as many Reals under 10k before catching a flight back to US so I wouldn't have to bring a US currency for Aug trip because It was agonizing experience when I was doing Rio at R$1. 60 to 1US$ back in Aug 2011. It's Tuesday and I'm ready to check out Terma Monte Carlo under the cabin free Tuesday promo.

i sent an e-mail to mc twice but got no reply, so i decided to call instead. i was told by the receptionist to print their web page which i can apply for cabin discount. since it was a local trip, i took a bus for r$2. 75 front of kice suco, and got off at rua hilário gouveia, next to the miami peep show store. i went inside by 6pm, and dazed to see that i'm the 2nd man in the boate encircled by 30+ garotas. it can be a bit intimidating when you got 60 eyes doing surveillance on your every move.

ordered a choppe, and surveyed the chiks dancing in the middle of the boate. since the boate was empty, i had 5 chiks tried to initiate a conversation within the first 3 minutes. i did saw monique, a petite morena with some tattoo on her left arm. it's hard to play the ditching game if the boate is unfilled with other patrons, because every corner i went to, the next garota tries to get my concentration. the only thing i didn't like about mc is that costs of drinks are damn high. i waited about 45 mins which is a logical amount of time to check out the girls who were taken.

finally, i caught a sight of this young tall model type stunning beauty. soon after, i grabbed her hand and took her to a corner for a little chatter. monique sat right next to us, listening in on our conversation. i ordered her a suco de laranja and converse about her outlook on rio's real estate market. she currently studying business and preparing to get her masters in three years. upon getting pics refusal in cancun and 4 x 4, i did confirmed if she's photo friendly in the boate. later on, i ordered myself a rum and diet code and headed to cabin. i don't like the quality of the local condoms, so i bring my assortment of lifestyles condoms, and pjur lube from the us. after about 10 mins of sexo, we moved on to completa. it was one of the best completa sexo in a terma which went on for full 25mins. i took a hold of her entire body when i was about to orgasm in the rear end. i had full cialis running in my arteries consumed an hour ago. finally, after ejaculating like torrent, i took out the camera and took few pics of the fine-looking morena.

i have no grumble apart from for the cost of drinks at mc, since 3 beers. 1 suco, and two rum and diet coke would've expense me no more than r$50 in other termas. nevertheless, it was r$80 (entrada) + r$ 200 (40 mins programma) + r$75 (drinks) = r$355 total. on the advantageous part, i did sign up with the r$80 entrada discount after spending r$700. i still got to verify but i think the receptionist was telling me that i will be qualified for a free entrada if my total spending gets over r$700 during my future visit on coming sat. i'm preparing to check out scort show talent within few hours.

[url]http://www.massagemtijuca.com/[/url]

Brazilian boards report new girls on the massagem tijuca website (above). For those mongers on ground in Rio, suggest a recon! I regret not going for more duplas in my trip, which I will do later this summer. From av nossa copa, take the metro to sao cristovao or maracana for massagem tijuca, or to sans pena for mix massagem and annes massagem. Juliana a mulata on xyzen site looks pretty hot.

[url]http://www.xyzen.com.br/massagistas.htm[/url]

Pictures!

Some of the brazilian boards have said R150 duplas 60 minutes!

I've done duplas at nearly all the prives in Rio de Janeiro and some I cannot even mention: Belprazer, Mix Massagems, Massagem Tijuca, Suzy Center, Anne Massagems and many other hole on the ground prives. I've posted some sessions along with the prices for the sessions on these fine establishments; from as low as BR140 and now BR150 at Massagem Tijuca to BR 170 at Centro Suzy. Nothing is more fun than watching two curvy, round arsed nymphos satisfying your every need. The value is out of this world. The fun is absolutely priceless. More often than not you leave the session walking gingerly out the door from an outstanding round of mattress olympics. I can't wait to get back there soon.

[QUOTE=PatmarBeleza1; 1284780][url]http://www.massagemtijuca.com/[/url]

Brazilian boards report new girls on the massagem tijuca website (above). For those mongers on ground in Rio, suggest a recon! I regret not going for more duplas in my trip, which I will do later this summer. From av nossa copa, take the metro to sao cristovao or maracana for massagem tijuca, or to sans pena for mix massagem and annes massagem. Juliana a mulata on xyzen site looks pretty hot.

[url]http://www.xyzen.com.br/massagistas.htm[/url]

Pictures!

Some of the brazilian boards have said R150 duplas 60 minutes![/QUOTE]

Unless they raised it recently I thought the spend value for free entrada at MC was R$500.

Just ask next time you are there. I'm traveling at the moment or in would confirm myself.

[QUOTE=ChrisDrug;1284227]Consequently, I did snatch a 5 8' tall, early 20s, hot blond name Amanda the moment she entered the boate.Anyhow, she refused pics, so I moved on the deed. I performed a quick massage on her miraculous body, a robust sexo for ½ hour, concluding with a shuddering orgasm A-Level style. I pledged to meet her on Wed night. Guys, the US$ is getting stronger by the day, so I'm thinking about buying as many Reals under 10k before catching a flight back to US so I wouldn't have to bring a US currency for Aug trip because It was agonizing experience when I was doing Rio at R$1. 60 to 1US$ back in Aug 2011. It's Tuesday and I'm ready to check out Terma Monte Carlo under the cabin free Tuesday promo.[/QUOTE]Good reporting CD! Keep them coming. Dollar is down today. Trying to time the rate is too frustrating for me (tried it before) and hindsight is 20/20. Now I take whatever the rate is when I am here.

A friend arrived in the am So we met up to hit 4x4 in the afternoon. Took the bus for $2. 75 and 35 minutes later at the front door of 4x4. Entered the boate area and my friend hooked up quickly as we got there just a bit before the 6pm cut-off to save the entrada. I took longer waiting for that someone to catch my eye. Saw a girl I noticed the other day that was unoccupied so we did the look and smile at each other and a few minutes later she was at my side.

Perla was her name. 22 years old from Rio. She was wearing shorts that showed off her tight little ass and a tied-off shirt just below her big tits, showing some very nice cleavage. Her overall look reminded of the sweet summer girls of my youth LOL. She has a fairly large tattoo on her back of stardust starting just above her left ass cheek, running up and then over to her right shoulder ending in a fairy. Took 1 hour in a cabine and we were off. Did the quick shower, chatting a bit with her and making her laugh. She has a very nice body, large natural tits, slim waist, and a nice small, delectable ass. Her BBBJ was great, almost deepthroat, and seemed to enjoy giving it. Some DATY, doggie, and other usual positions were accomplished. While she did allow a finger in her butt she told me no when I asked about fucking it. Not a deal breaker for me so we carried on until I popped. A shower and back downstairs for a water, relax and see how my friends session went.

A good encounter with Perla and I would definitely recommend her if she looks like your type.

I added "Tattoos" below to hopefully make it easier to pick the girl out of the crowd if someone wants to try her out.

[B]Date of encounter: 23 May 2012[/B]

Name: Perla.

Age: 22.

Languages: Portuguese, little english.

Tattoos: Yes, on her back of stardust starting just above her left ass cheek, running up and then over to her right shoulder ending in a fairy.

[B]Making Contact[/B]

How did you find her: works at Termas 4x4.

Link: na.

Did she match her pics: no pics.

Percentage Photoshop: na.

Was she on time: na.

Neighborhood: Centro, Rua Buenos Aires 44.

[B]Does she or doesn't she[/B]

Anal: Said I was too big (yeah riiiight) but she didn't mind my finger up there.

Oral w or w / o: w / o, good BBBJ, enthusiastic, almost deepthroat.

Kissing: good kisser,

Any restrictions: no anal, for me anyways.

[B]How would you rate her[/B]

Face: 7, pretty girl, long dark hair.

Tits: 8, big, very squeezable and natural!

Ass: 8, very nice trim ass.

Body: 8, very nice overall, petite, trim and looked very nice in her shorts and tied off shirt

[B]Level of Service[/B]

Enthusiastic or Business-Like: enthusiastic, very personable.

Clock Watcher: not at all.

Her strong point: her overall look, hot girl next door.

Her weak point: can't think of anything at the moment.

$$$ & Time: $311 reals included drinks and entrada. 1 hour,

Overall Rating of Encounter: 7. 5.

Do you recommend: yes

I have a question for the guys that know alot about the privates / massage parlors or whatever the non terma places are called. I want to try it for the first time to save some money. But I only want to go to the top 2 or 3. I have no interest in going to 30 places looking for the diamond in the rough. Are there 2 or 3 privates that are the 4x4 / monte carlo of privates. I want something thats been around a long time. Something established that everyone knows about and the girls are good looking. Are there such places or are they all here today gone tomorrow type places.

Casa19. Com.

Brazilian boards say girls from there go over to 4x4 which is 500 yards away.

As easy to get to from metro as 4x4 or 502.

Juliana is spertos fav.

[QUOTE=HelpRules;1285028]I have a question for the guys that know alot about the privates / massage parlors or whatever the non terma places are called. I want to try it for the first time to save some money. But I only want to go to the top 2 or 3. I have no interest in going to 30 places looking for the diamond in the rough. Are there 2 or 3 privates that are the 4x4 / monte carlo of privates. I want something thats been around a long time. Something established that everyone knows about and the girls are good looking. Are there such places or are they all here today gone tomorrow type places.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ChrisDrug;1283860]This pic was taken last year after I woke up and become conscious that I have been robbed for over $2500 by a Balcony shabby working girl who by some means opened my locked suitcase with a knife or something. I was at Balcony last Sat night and it will be my first and last visit to Balcony for this trip. It was an utter waste of time. The quality was further than poor. First, I had to spend almost ½ hour to switch my apartment into theft proof. Secondly, upon arriving I barely saw 2 or 3 doable among 70+ garotas. On top of that, they were asking prices like they just ended their stint at Terma Centaurus.[/QUOTE]I never stayed in apartment in all my trips to Rio. I only stayed at the Princess Copacabana and they don't allow the girl to leave or retrieve her I'd without making sure you are okay. Better kuck next time.

[QUOTE=HelpRules;1285028]I have a question for the guys that know alot about the privates / massage parlors or whatever the non terma places are called. I want to try it for the first time to save some money. But I only want to go to the top 2 or 3. I have no interest in going to 30 places looking for the diamond in the rough. Are there 2 or 3 privates that are the 4x4 / monte carlo of privates. I want something thats been around a long time. Something established that everyone knows about and the girls are good looking. Are there such places or are they all here today gone tomorrow type places.[/QUOTE]You can still do Rio for low-cost. Read some of the PatmarBeleza exploration. There are almost 3-4 centro casas within 2 block radius at Av. Rio Branco 185, with AC, clean rooms, with 5-8 looks range chicks, such as, Bel Prazer, or duda massagem where you can have a Dupla under R$200 / hr. However, when you factor in the apt rental cost, and divide the plane fare among total days, the daily average expense goes up. I have come up with a new solution to do Rio 10-12 days trip 3x a year since I got a knotty schedule among two jobs and business school. Hence, when I'm vacationing in Rio for 1 ½ week, I only delve into Luomo, MC, Cancun once and 4x4 twice or 3x, along with the legendary Scort Show, and Star Cris.

[QUOTE=Slyman;1285068]I never stayed in apartment in all my trips to Rio. I only stayed at the Princess Copacabana and they don't allow the girl to leave or retrieve her I'd without making sure you are okay. Better kuck next time.[/QUOTE]I did stay at Princess Copacabana for a full week each trip back in 2006 when the rates were good. However, it's too costly for me if I'm making a trip over 10 days. Believe it or not, I had two scam pulled on me during my stay at Princess Copa. Once with the twins from Help, who brought their buddy cops when I rejected the offer of doing dupla when the hotel asked me to pay for the second room. Second time, I couldn't have the Help chick get out my room at noon because she said she quoted 300 in US$ not Reals. Currently, my professional life schedule is so demanding that I can't allow these happenings anymore. Most importantly, I have ultimately dropped Balcony out of my interact list.

Apart from the fact that last year, a junky Balcony Puta won the highest lifetime achievement robbery award '$2500' of my mongering career, the place is a total dump. It's an absolute waste of time in my book from now on. 2.5 max doables who will quote you R$400-500 for 2 hours, with no guarantee of agreed service. On the other hand, you got pricey drinks, whom I have no interest in sipping, in the presence of below 5 quality of 60+ specialized tourist scammer sharks, who will most likely make my trip miserable.

I tried out Scort Show on Wed so I can take a little rest in the morning, and watch movies etc. I ended up dating Bruna that evening from Scort Show for the second time who's an amazing young 5 8" tall teen garota with a marvelous body. She gave me a memorable sexo of this year and allowed me to take two dozen pics and I wind up giving her a fine name branded cologne gift. It's 7pm on Thursday and I'm decisive to stike 4 x 4 where I can rummage around for Viviane, who's a nice young tall, Amazonian type Brasileira with a world class ass. I banged her last year but I just can't get over her super hot body.

PatmarBeleza, I'm checking out from my apartment at noon, but my flight is at 6AM on the following morning. You mentioned [url]http://www.villareggia.com.br/[/url] Who got a reasonable per noite rate of R$130 or US$65 for a fancy premium room. Do you think this hotel is secure to leave your luggage on a Sat afternoon till midnight? I'm planning on doing MC and than explore, Frank, pussy cat, Saso or possibly barbarella that night because I got to grab a cab at 3:30AM to catch the 6AM TAM flight.

No, I don't think Villa Reggia motel is secure to leave your stuff. I always take my valuables with me in a small travel backpack, and leave a larger backpack somewhere in the motel like behind the front desk or in the laundry room, but I know I am taking the risk that the stuff is gone. The staff asks if it is valuable (valor?) , and I tell them its clothes.

If you're in an apt near kice sucos, I might check out this hostel to see if there are some luggage lockers.

[url]http://www.copahostel.com.br/[/url]

You can take the metro from Centro or Lapa to Copa pretty easily to get your stuff from a locker at copa hostel.

And on a Friday night, I would suggest considering Motel Fluminense in Lapa because there is a great night scene (unlike the gringos at Balcony).

Cheers and thanks for the nice reports. Maybe go by some of those centro termas and see if you can get a girl you had a good time with for pernoite at Villa Reggia or Fluminense!

Centro

Nome Site Endereço Tel (s)

Amazonas Veja Rua Alexandre Mackenzie. 122 (21) 3849-2900 12H 85.

Champagne . Rua do Senado. 274 (21) 2232-1844

Feitiço . Rua do Resende. 58 (21) 2232-9568

Fenix Veja Rua do Senado. 189 (21) 2242-8004 12H 98R Lapa.

Fluminense Veja Rua dos Inválidos. 176 (21) 2252-0069 12h 78R.

Gallery Veja. Rua Camerino. 15 (21) 2263-2885/2263-2435

Paraguai . Rua do Senado. 240 (21) 2509-5473

San Diego Veja Rua Senador Pompeu. 190 (021) 2233-8791 12h 84R.

Sheik . Avenida Gomes Freire. 55 (21) 2224-3063/2242-4409

Snob Veja Rua Henrique Valadares. 150 (21) 3231-8031 12h 95R, wi fi gratuito.

Verlaine . Rua Costa Feereira. 90 (21) 2233-4795/2233-5848

Villa Regia Veja Rua Sacadura Cabral. 136 (21) 2223-4104 130r pernoite.

Vina Del Mar . Rua Joaquim Silva. 57. Lapa (21) 2509-1857



Barra

Nome Site Endereço Tel (s)

Calypso . Estrada do Pontal. 399. Recreio (21) 2490-1666/2490-1677

Dunas Veja Avenida das Américas. 2211 (21) 2493-7979/2494-3939 12h 99R.

Hawaii . Estrada the Barra the Tijuca. 3186 (21) 2493-0132/2493-0195

Marbella . Estrada the Barra the Tijuca. 431 (21) 2494-2248

Maxin . Avenida Fernando Mattos. 877 (21) 2494-2323

Papillon . Praça São Perpetuo. 150 (21) 2494-2727

Praia Linda Veja Av. Pepê.1430. Praia do Pepê (21) 2494-2186

Serramar Veja Estrada. The Barra the Tijuca. 1020 (21) 2494-2150/2493-0433

Skorpios . Estrada. The Barra the Tijuca. 54 (21) 2494-2455/2493-0154

Summertime . Estrada the Barra the Tijuca. 87 (21) 2493-2155/2493-2177



Zona Norte

Nome Site Endereço Tel (s)

Alphaville . Rua Uranos. 607. Bonsucesso (21) 2590-8437

Bariloche Veja Rua Hadook Lobo. 206. Tijuca (21) 2204-0013/2569-2698

Cartago . Rua Cachambi. 713. Cachambi (21) 2501-0266

Champion . Estrada VigáRio Geral. 118. Jardim América (21) 2471-3120

Comodoro . Rodovia Presidente Dutra. 600. Jardim América (21) 2471-4676/2371-7731

Condor . Avenida Amaro Cavalcanti. 535. Meier (21) 2594-9992/2597-1392

Corinto Veja Rua Maxwell. 460. Vila Isabel (21) 2570-9696 12h 65R.

De Maio . Rua Vinte e Quatro de Maio. 11. Méier (21) 2501-0640

Eden . Rua Soares the Costa. 147. Tijuca (21) 2569-5346 M Sans Pena.

Free . Avenida Itaóca. 60. Bonsucesso (21) 2290-5063/2590-5942

Gallant Veja Rua Joaquim Palhares. 411. Praça Bandeira (21) 2273-4541 Estacio. 12h 73r.

Gran Ville . Rodovia Presidente Dutra. 2160. Jardim América (21) 2471-4811

Love Land Veja Rua Miguel Angel. 636. Cachambi (21) 2501-0047

Magnus Veja Rua Barão de Uba. 133. Tijuca (21) 2273-1545

Malaga . Rua Barão de Iguatemi, andº 224. Praça the Bandeira Estacio 59R pernoite.

Palácio do Rei . Rua Hadock Lobo. 331. Tijuca (21) 2234-3383/2567-6814

Rosa the Vila . Avenida Marechal Rondon. 2221. Sampaio (21) 2501-4096

Stop Time . Avenida Brasil. 6505. Ramos (21) 2590-1383/2590-4541

Sunshine Veja Praia the Bica. 1051. Ilha do Governador (21) 2393-7238/2393-7239

Te Adoro Veja Rua Teodoro the Silva. 742. Vila Isabel (21) 2577-6630 12h 68R.



Zona Oeste

Nome Site Endereço Tel (s)

Agadir . Rua Augusto Vasconcelos. 506. Campo Grande (21) 2394-4766

Blue Star Rio . Rodovia Presidente Dutra. 2226. Nova Iguaçyou (21) 2471-1631

Caricia . Rua Clara Nunes. 250. Madureira (21) 3350-6064

Champiom . Avenida Brasil. 1900. Campo Grande (21) 3371-2120

Costa Blanca Veja Rodovia Washington Luís 1520, km 1, 5 (21) 2671-4404

Granville Veja Rodovia Presidente Dutra. 2160. VigáRio Geral (21) 2471-4382

Jumbo . Estrada Intendente Magalhães. 346. Campinho (21) 3359-4141

Miragem . Avenida Brasil. 31850. Bangu (21) 3331-0935

Mirante Veja Estrada dos Bandeirantes. 1280. Taquara (21) 2445-0075

Nobre . Rodovia Washington Luís 4640, km 4, 5 (21) 2671-8041

Oklahoma . Avenida Brasil. 41821. Campo Grande (21) 2413-7986/2413-8205

Omaha . Avenida Ministro Edgard Romero. 675. Madureira (21) 3352-2001

Palazzo . Avenida Brasil. 32000. Bangu (21) 3331-7474/3331-9108

Salou . Avenida Brasil. 41435. Campo Grande (21) 2413-7569

Top Cap . Avenida Brasil. 32477. Bangu (21) 3331-8080/3331-5037



Zona Sul

Nome Site Endereço Tel (s)

Alameda . Rua Candido Mendes. 112. Glória (21) 2509-7880

Bambina Veja Rua Bambina. 65. Botafogo (21) 2539-0713

Barão do Flamengo . Rua Barão do Flamengo, andº 36. Flamengo (21) 2556-7079 M Largo do Machado.

Challon Veja Rua Cândido Mendes. 521. Glória (21) 2242-8826

Diamond Veja Rua the Glória. 46. Glória (21) 2253-6262 Gloria.

Diplomata Veja Praça Demétrio Ribeiro. 103. Copacabana (21) 2295-8282

Elegance Veja Rua Correia Dutra. 19. Catete (21) 3235-9000

Escort Veja Rua Estrada the Gávea. 674. São Conrado (21) 3322-1400

Love Time Veja Rua Ant. M. Campos. Catete (21) 2265-1884/2558-1911 Gloria.

Magic Veja Rua Santo Amaro. 11. Glória (21) 2507-2037

Nosso Hotel Veja Avenida Niemeyer. 210. Leblon (21) 2274-3247

Panda Veja Rua São Clemente. 298. Botafogo (21) 2537-3134

Pedro Américo . Rua Pedro Américo. 173. Catete (21) 2205-2019

Praia Lido Veja Av. Nossa Senhora de Copacabana 202. Copacabana (21) 2541-1397

Serrano Veja Rua Gago Coutinho. 22. Largo do Machado (21) 2285-3233 M Largo do Machado.

Shalimar . Avenida Niemeyer. 218. Leblon (21) 3322-3392

Sinless Veja Avenida Niemeyer. 214. Leblon (21) 2512-9913

Vila Rica Veja Rua Conde de Lages. 2. Glória (21) 2232-2983

VIP's Veja Avenida Niemeyer. 418. Leblon (21) 3322-1662



NiteróI

Nome Site Endereço Tel (s)

Carinhoso . Rodovia Amaral Peixoto, Km 6, 5 (21) 2603-1935

Fair Play . Avenida Eugênio Borges. 2500. Arsena (21) 2701-1596

Gantuá . Rodovia Amaral Peixoto, Km 2, 5 (21) 2625-0903

Le Baron Veja Rodovia Amaral Peixoto, Km 5 (21) 2627-6166

Praia das Flexas . Estrada Francisco the Cruz Nunes. 128 (21) 2616-4220

Sparta Veja Rua São Lourenço. 55 (21) 2622-3666

Sundown . Avenida Quintino Bocaiuva. 881. São Francisco (21) 2710-0946.

[QUOTE=ChrisDrug; 1285135]I tried out Scort Show on Wed so I can take a little rest in the morning, and watch movies etc. I ended up dating Bruna that evening from Scort Show for the second time who's an amazing young 5 8" tall teen garota with a marvelous body. She gave me a memorable sexo of this year and allowed me to take two dozen pics and I wind up giving her a fine name branded cologne gift. It's 7pm on Thursday and I'm decisive to stike 4 x 4 where I can rummage around for Viviane, who's a nice young tall, Amazonian type Brasileira with a world class ass. I banged her last year but I just can't get over her super hot body.

PatmarBeleza, I'm checking out from my apartment at noon, but my flight is at 6AM on the following morning. You mentioned.

[url]http://www.villareggia.com.br/[/url]

Who got a reasonable per noite rate of R$130 or US$65 for a fancy premium room. Do you think this hotel is secure to leave your luggage on a Sat afternoon till midnight? I'm planning on doing MC and than explore, Frank, pussy cat, Saso or possibly barbarella that night because I got to grab a cab at 3:30AM to catch the 6AM TAM flight.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ChrisDrug; 1285132]I did stay at Princess Copacabana for a full week each trip back in 2006 when the rates were good. However, it's too costly for me if I'm making a trip over 10 days. Believe it or not, I had two scam pulled on me during my stay at Princess Copa. Once with the twins from Help, who brought their buddy cops when I rejected the offer of doing dupla when the hotel asked me to pay for the second room.[/QUOTE]Can you explain this in more detail. I have stayed at the Princess and they do not allow you to bring in two females at the same time. But what did the girls call the police for? What crime did the police say you committed? Were you abel to just walk away and ignore them or did they make you pay a bribe?

The Princess is a decent sized hotel, (with no cameras) I would have just left the girls waiting for the police in the lobby and went up to the restaraunt or went into the gym or went out to the pool, until the police had left.

Some chicks really know how to play drama. Why can't they appreciate that you're on a quick trip and you got to deal with intricate schedule with work and business school back home, while they can fuck whoever they want in Terma every night. I'm done with Viviane. This Amazonian looking hot beauty is fuming over the rationale that I came to see her last year with her cologne gift in my locker and banged another hottie after learning that she's busy for an hr. I was my last day so I didn't have extra time on my hand. These chicks got a sixth sense which by some means tells them that you following them. She came up to me, in order to waste my 20 mins and then vanished while making an excuse that she got a call from her family at reception. She's the one who approached me on the first place. Well you're never too old to learn and I'm done with this malingerer. I wind up banging another hot loira within the next few mins for a hot complete programma.

[QUOTE=Bravo; 1285453]Can you explain this in more detail. I have stayed at the Princess and they do not allow you to bring in two females at the same time. But what did the girls call the police for? What crime did the police say you committed? Were you abel to just walk away and ignore them or did they make you pay a bribe?

The Princess is a decent sized hotel, (with no cameras) I would have just left the girls waiting for the police in the lobby and went up to the restaraunt or went into the gym or went out to the pool, until the police had left.[/QUOTE]I stayed at Princess Copacabana for almost a week twice back in 2006. I had one of the well-known twins from Help along with her friend for a dupla programma overnight. After taking them back to the hotel which is 2 blocks from the bulldozed old Help, the hotel asked me to pay for a second room if I want to take 2 chiks upstairs. I wasn't aware of this policy so I excused the twin girl that I can only take one girl up because I don't want to pay for the extra room. She started making a scene and five mins later her buddy cops showed up who made me pay R$300 (sem programma) because of her accusation that she can no longer find another shopper for a dupla at help at 2AM. I not daft and it was a pure scam from the onset. If they were real cops, they would've comprehend what I told them that I can't manage to pay for a second room and whichever can come up to my room or hit upon a new client at 2AM.

[QUOTE=ChrisDrug;1285457]I stayed at Princess Copacabana for almost a week twice back in 2006. I had one of the well-known twins from Help along with her friend for a dupla programma overnight. After taking them back to the hotel which is 2 blocks from the bulldozed old Help, the hotel asked me to pay for a second room if I want to take 2 chiks upstairs. I wasn't aware of this policy so I excused the twin girl that I can only take one girl up because I don't want to pay for the extra room. She started making a scene and five mins later her buddy cops showed up who made me pay R$300 (sem programma) because of her accusation that she can no longer find another shopper for a dupla at help at 2AM. I not daft and it was a pure scam from the onset. If they were real cops, they would've comprehend what I told them that I can't manage to pay for a second room and whichever can come up to my room or hit upon a new client at 2AM.[/QUOTE]Wow, I am glad you are posting these issues you seem to running into with these chicks on here it seem that you seem to be running into a lot of bad luck when it comes to these chicks I am glad you are posting these issues on here so other guys can learn from them. from all the years I been going to Rio since the late 70's I have never had the type of issues you seem to find yourself keep running into. With those twins they were famous for causing problems there were one of them that wasn't as bad as the other one with most twins there is ALWAYS a pack leader that runs the show or like to take control of things. With that cop friend I can't see how a police can make you pay 300 reals when you didn't even have a session with those twins what they did was " run a con-game on you".

I hate seeing tricks paying these type of chicks that act a fool or get loud because this will only award them and make them feel they can run that same "con game" on another trick. BUT sooner rather then later they will run into a guy that isn't going to be in the mood to play their game and he will either kick their ass or what he should do is call the police on their friend and let their cop friend get in trouble with his boss and let his boss made aware of what he been doing running "con games " on gringos I would have have said look I am going to pick one of you girls to go up to my room and I will fuck the shit out of you and IF you don't want to go for that you BOTH can leave without making a dime. And will be kick out. I wouldn't care what time it was it wasn't my problem.

These girls are smart and they will prey on what and who they think are afraid or weak or who they think they can punk out as a matter of fact I do remember a issue I did have on my last trip I was chatting with a chick on facebook for a few months and she came over my place I fuck her for a few hours and when we finish she asked for some money as a matter of fact she wanted 300 reals LOL LOL I laugh at her and said you must be nuts then she said ok how about 200 reals I told her look I have ALL the PM's and messages on my laptop SAVED and you and me NEVER talk or spoke or said anything about charging me for some ass and I have had many girls over my place that I have fuck without paying them a dime that I met on facebook and IF I met you at Balcony Bar or some other place or if I was out tricky and paying for some ass I can see your point BUT I didn't you came here to me so here is 20 reals for some taxi money and you can leave she started to cry and act a fool and guess what I started to act a bigger fool and told her you have me mixed up with some other one of those goofy tricks you may be use to fucking over BUT I am not the one and I told her I will call the cop on her ass and have the front desk kick her out of my place and she will be banned from ever coming there again. She took her 20 reals and left. And guess what she still try to be nice to me on facebook and want to be my friend... you have to DEMAND respect from these girls or they will play you for a sucker.. and laugh and high five each other behind your back..if you ONLY could hear some of the stories some of these girls tell me and they are laughing when they telling me how they made fools out of guys..

I don't blame these girls from trying to run game on tricks if they think they can spot a easy mark BUT as long as it isn't me LOL Oh yeah I did have a taxi driver that was trying to run game on me that I took from the airport (that was driving around wasting time running up the meter) BUT I ended up paying him almost half of what he wanted and this black Brazilian police that was friends with the doorman I knew ended up giving him a ticket from not having the right paper work. We all laugh and they help me with my bags.

But, this should be a lesson to ALL tricks don't take two girls back to your place unless you really really know them or been with them before Or if you must have two girl you can take two up to a room at a Termas when you dealing with free lancers hood rats from these Bar there is always one that is a pack leader that will try to talk the other weaker one into robbing your ass or popping a pill in your drink and knocking you out or even going as far as to killing your ass. (there were a video on here a year ago were this guy had a bunch of money that he was going to take back to the States with him and he lived in Rio btw and he had two hookers that ended up killing him) the good thing was the hotel was able to pull up film that showed on video of the girls going into his room with him and leaving the hotel in a big rush.

Be careful,

Kid Cisco

[QUOTE=ChrisDrug;1285457]I stayed at Princess Copacabana for almost a week twice back in 2006. I had one of the well-known twins from Help along with her friend for a dupla programma overnight. After taking them back to the hotel which is 2 blocks from the bulldozed old Help, the hotel asked me to pay for a second room if I want to take 2 chiks upstairs. I wasn't aware of this policy so I excused the twin girl that I can only take one girl up because I don't want to pay for the extra room. She started making a scene and five mins later her buddy cops showed up who made me pay R$300 (sem programma) because of her accusation that she can no longer find another shopper for a dupla at help at 2AM. I not daft and it was a pure scam from the onset. If they were real cops, they would've comprehend what I told them that I can't manage to pay for a second room and whichever can come up to my room or hit upon a new client at 2AM.[/QUOTE]Taking 2 girls to a hotel is always a challenge as is 1. I had this happen to me, left Help went to the Debret with a dupla, they said no way, walked out of the hotel and around the corner to the Vanity motel, no fuss no muss. Did both girls, paid the xtra to the motel all was good. I stopped staying in hotels too because of this reason and others, I was tired of all the xtra charges on the bill, in an apto it's one flat rate and you do what you want to do.

Friday I headed off to 4x4 as I wanted to hookup with a couple of newbies I saw there the other night. Bus to Centro, a short walk to 4x4, and I was soon in the boate. Of course the 2 girls weren't there so I scoped out what was there and waited to see if they would show up. My luck runs true and they never did show. It was getting close to the 6pm witching hour so I decided to head up with Rubi, a girl I have sessioned with on previous visits. Long dark hair, she usually has a flower in it in the right side. Natural deep brown skin, pretty face with nice cock-sucking lips, and a nice firm ass. Big lineup for the cabines and it was 15 minutes before we got one.

Did the normal shower routine and then on the bed for what I knew would be some great sex. A nice completely shaved puss was waiting so I dove in. DATY until she was good and juicy, then Rubi went to town on my dick. This girl give a nasty, wet BJ and it was awesome! Between attempts to stuff it all in she slaps the dick against her face and it rub it all over her face. She really loves the cock! Did doggie, missionary, missionary with her knees by her ears, then I told her I wanted her sweet ass. Lubed up, she spread her ass cheeks and we were soon pounding each other until I popped. Finished and had a cleanup shower then down to the boate to relax before heading with my friend to Termas Cancun.

[B]Date of encounter: 25 May 2012[/B]

Name: Rubi.

Age: didn't ask.

Languages: Portuguese.

Tattoos: Yes, on her back right shoulder. No idea what it is of though. She also likes to wear a flower in her hair on the right side.

[B]Making Contact[/B]

How did you find her: know her from previous visits to 4x4.

Link: na.

Did she match her pics: no pics.

Percentage Photoshop: na.

Was she on time: na.

Neighborhood: Centro, Rua Buenos Aires 44.

[B]Does she or doesn't she[/B]

Anal: as she says 'com certeza'! Most definitely likes it in the backdoor.

Oral w or w / o: w / o, nasty wet BBBJ. Freakin awesome!

Kissing: lots of kissing,

Any restrictions: none that I know of.

[B]How would you rate her[/B]

Face: 7. 5, good looking girl,

Tits: 7. 5, decent sized, nice and firm!

Ass: 8, sweet hard ass.

Body: 8, everything comes together in a nice package

[B]Level of Service[/B]

Enthusiastic or Business-Like: very enthusiastic,

Clock Watcher: never.

Her strong point: loves sex.

Her weak point: nothing I noticed.

$$$ & Time: $251 included a couple of waters and Guarana. 1 hour, entrada was waived.

Overall Rating of Encounter: 8.

Do you recommend: yes, gave the session a solid 8 as she is complete and very enthusiastic

Cancun had a big party Friday night with 'Consumption' meaning you could drink free up to the entrada which was $60 reals. They have this special a few times per week. There were quite a few good looking girls there and though I did not partake I will go back to do a few sessions before this trip is over. My friend sessioned with a girl that has apparently done the 'pretty little Latinas' vids. We knew her from a few years back when she worked at Terma Monte Carlo. Still looks good and gives a great session according to my friend.

[QUOTE=Eric Cartman; 1284904]Unless they raised it recently I thought the spend value for free entrada at MC was R$500.

Just ask next time you are there. I'm traveling at the moment or in would confirm myself.[/QUOTE]Verified tonight the threshold to earn a free entry is $700 reals. With current prices it works out that pretty much every 3rd visit you get the entry waived.

[url]http://www.newscort.net/acompanhantes/garotas_programa/index.html[/url]

I had good. Actually great. Duplas with Mel from Newscort, but I saw her one on one first. She's great if you can get her.

[QUOTE=Kid Cisco;1285560]But, this should be a lesson to ALL tricks don't take two girls back to your place unless you really really know them or been with them before Or if you must have two girl you can take two up to a room at a Termas when you dealing with free lancers hood rats from these Bar there is always one that is a pack leader that will try to talk the other weaker one into robbing your ass or popping a pill in your drink and knocking you out or even going as far as to killing your ass.[/QUOTE]

NEVER bring 2 girls to your apartment that you never been with before. You should have at least been with one of the girls, and then she brings her friend over. Birds of a feather flock together. If one is good and pleasant, the other will be also. Usually. Thats the sad part about Rio being so expensive. In the old days you could get 2 girls for a total of 100 at the termas, get to know their character, and then invite them to your room for a dupla. Never a problem. Now people are risking duplas with 2 girls from balcony for 200 reals each and taking big risks. Ahh, do I miss 3 to 1 exchange rate. The fun to be had for us all. At least at help the girls had to pay a entrance fee. Balcony is all ghetto because its free. I would rather someone open up another help but charge 50 to 70 reals to get in and weed out the trash. Sure it would be a little more expensive for the girls, but the quality would be higher. You have to admit, all the bitching we did about the entrance fee in help in hindsight really protected us and assured us quality girls. Balcony is proof of that.

[QUOTE=ChrisDrug;1285457]I stayed at Princess Copacabana for almost a week twice back in 2006. I had one of the well-known twins from Help along with her friend for a dupla programma overnight. After taking them back to the hotel which is 2 blocks from the bulldozed old Help, the hotel asked me to pay for a second room if I want to take 2 chiks upstairs. I wasn't aware of this policy so I excused the twin girl that I can only take one girl up because I don't want to pay for the extra room. She started making a scene and five mins later her buddy cops showed up who made me pay R$300 (sem programma) because of her accusation that she can no longer find another shopper for a dupla at help at 2AM. I not daft and it was a pure scam from the onset. If they were real cops, they would've comprehend what I told them that I can't manage to pay for a second room and whichever can come up to my room or hit upon a new client at 2AM.[/QUOTE]I assume they showed up in a police cruiser and had on uniforms, so what made you wonder if the were "real" cops?

That is a strange situation because the Princess has security in the lobby. As soon as the girl started making a scene, I would have calmly just walked away and pressed the button for the elevator, at that point, she is the hotel's issue, not mine. I am not sure why you stayed in the lobby talking to the twin when it became apparent that you couldn't bring two girls upstairs, but it sucks that you paid 300R and didn't get some pussy. I am sure the cops got 200R and she got the rest. Then she went right back to Help and pulled another customer.

[QUOTE=HelpRules;1285861]charge 50 to 70 reals to get in and weed out the trash. Sure it would be a little more expensive for the girls, but the quality would be higher.[/QUOTE]Never heard of a place called Barbarella?

[QUOTE=Golfinho;1286483]Never heard of a place called Barbarella?[/QUOTE]Sure but he said "higher quality". Barbarellas you get asked SP highend prices for medium Rio quality. I've never had a good experience there.

[QUOTE=Golfinho;1286483]Never heard of a place called Barbarella?[/QUOTE]Golfinho,

I have always gone to Barbarella's over the past decades and have always walk out with a dime back in the day most of the girls that worked there wouldn't be caught died inside Club Help this past trip I pull a really nice one the thing is you can't be a drunker and drink to much since I am not a drinker I was able to keep my senses and waited until late and slip my hotel info to a hot looking chick and she met me in front of my hotel we left in different taxi's and I saved myself around 70 reals from not paying the exit fee.

Of course she wanted and asked for 300 reals I laughed and we settle for far far less I was dress really nice and she seem to wanted to come and be with me she stayed until morning time and ONLY then did she asked for her money! Over the 3 weeks there I seen her a few more times each time was good.

Many guys go to Barbarella's and get ran game on by the waiters and girls ordering high price drinks I am NO one simp and I tell them up front I am not buying you shit! In here this is my hotel info if you want to hang with me outside of the place find IF not that's cool I will find someone else most girl like it when you not some push over sucker they can run over you have to act like you are use to being around hot looking girls and not some sex tourist that is looking to fuck and pay any price for some hot ass and you will gain respect from them. At least for me I have found myself having fun there.

Kid Cisco

[QUOTE=Kid Cisco; 1286858]Golfinho,

I have always gone to Barbarella's over the past decades and have always walk out with a dime back in the day most of the girls that worked there wouldn't be caught died inside Club Help this past trip I pull a really nice one the thing is you can't be a drunker and drink to much since I am not a drinker I was able to keep my senses and waited until late and slip my hotel info to a hot looking chick and she met me in front of my hotel we left in different taxi's and I saved myself around 70 reals from not paying the exit fee.

Of course she wanted and asked for 300 reals I laughed and we settle for far far less I was dress really nice and she seem to wanted to come and be with me she stayed until morning time and ONLY then did she asked for her money! Over the 3 weeks there I seen her a few more times each time was good.

Many guys go to Barbarella's and get ran game on by the waiters and girls ordering high price drinks I am NO one simp and I tell them up front I am not buying you shit! In here this is my hotel info if you want to hang with me outside of the place find IF not that's cool I will find someone else most girl like it when you not some push over sucker they can run over you have to act like you are use to being around hot looking girls and not some sex tourist that is looking to fuck and pay any price for some hot ass and you will gain respect from them. At least for me I have found myself having fun there.

Kid Cisco[/QUOTE]I'd be curious if anyone else recently has had success with this type of approach at Barbarella.

Last time I went there, maybe 8 months ago, I too literally laughed at a girl who quoted R500 to my friend and gently explained that I live in Rio and never pay more than 200. She smiled and excused herself. So did a few others. This was maybe midnight on a Friday. My friend went home alone, and I went home and saw a MC girl for r200.

Honestly just with the entrance fee / consumption its not worth going there, IMHO. The chicks I have seen there are not super hot. Hell some were even walking to balcony later at night

[QUOTE=Eric Cartman; 1287003]I'd be curious if anyone else recently has had success with this type of approach at Barbarella.

Last time I went there, maybe 8 months ago, I too literally laughed at a girl who quoted R500 to my friend and gently explained that I live in Rio and never pay more than 200. She smiled and excused herself. So did a few others. This was maybe midnight on a Friday. My friend went home alone, and I went home and saw a MC girl for r200.

Honestly just with the entrance fee / consumption its not worth going there, IMHO. The chicks I have seen there are not super hot. Hell some were even walking to balcony later at night[/QUOTE]To me it shouldn't matter what approach I used at Barbarella's I have over 100 different approaches when it comes to meeting non.pro chicks. And I have many many more different approaches when it comes to getting a deal I want from a hooker or a sex act from a hooker or a non-pro in the bedroom. When Club Help was open I had fun getting the best deals I can get from the girls there.

The reason I said it shouldn't matter what approach worked for me is because it is me. What I say and how I say it and what I have on and how I am dress and mostly it have to do is how I look will depend on how a chick will treat me or what she will counter offer me IF she is into me she will want to make the right deal that will work best for her and also a deal that will work and be fare to me were I will want to see her or see her again. Over the years I have heard of guys being told by girls at Club Help and Barbarella's some insane price like 500 reals or some other high price BUT that is send the guy packing so he will leave her alone. IF she want to see you or be with you she will counter you with a lower offer and NOT walk away. Some tricks will give away or give off a vibe that they are so horny that they will pay and spend any amount to be with a chick and some chicks will feed off of that and say some high insane price if the tricks think it is to much and she don't really want to be with him she will just get up and leave.

I have said it many times before living in Rio is one thing and a guy that is on a 7 day or 10 day trip is in another space IF I lived in Rio I wouldn't even be trickin off my money on hookers at all. Instead of paying some MC girl 200 reals to come over at night there should be a rotation of girls coming over for free. After a week in Rio I had girls I met from Facebook coming over at night cooking and hanging out with me some driving for a hour or so to come over hell my dick was almost raw after a week I had to use some "Neosporin" LOL just think if I lived there ha ha

For a guy that is on a sex tourist monger trip he should keep his options open he should to go to the Tier 1 Termas and go to the private apts, and he should call up the escorts BUT for all means go to Barbarella's it's NOT like you have a ton of options to do at night LOL just don't go in there looking to get drunk off their high price drinks or try to pull a chick early in the evening (many will rush you to get you to nut so they can rush back and turned another trick). This haven't happen to me because I rather see them after the the place closed and they will want to spend the night with me I have NEVER had a Barbarella's girl rush back to the place or leave after sex they have always took a shower and got in bed until the next morning. As far as the girls showing up or walking to the Balcony Bar that would be odd since over the past few months all I have seen posted on here is how out of the 70-100 of girls at Balcony bar there is only 2-3 with doing there so I am sure a Barbarella girl would stand out as one of the ones you would want to do ..

Look bottom line I don't get a kick back from Barbarella of any kind to me it is a place to go and hang out and watch some hot girls I have met many girls that work in there that goes to school in the day time and looking for extra cash at night or work in the mall and looking for some extra cash and some Termas girls also work in there too BUT many girls like working in there because they can pick and choose who they fuck and who dick they will suck and who they will allow to fuck them in their ass LOL working there it is up to them if they want to talk to a trick or get up and leave they can the thing is they are ALL free agents/lancers there isn't a posted price for sex like at the Termas so you need to have some skills and get you a good fare deal for the time you want etc.

There isn't a blue print on what will work for you because what will work for me won't work for the next guy (like the last thing in the world I would do is tell a hooker I live in Rio) why? Many girls like I said that work at Barbarella's have day jobs that isn't in the sex trade and the last thing they want is to see some trick that live in Rio running into him or having him stopping by her place of work at Rio Sul Mall begging and bugging her to come over after work for 200 reals in front of her co-worker. They rather see some sex tourist that is there for a few weeks and never have to worry about seeing him again IF she don't want to.... this is another reason even Termas girls are picky who they see after work some guys are so lonely and empty that they become to needed and demand to much of the girls time and get jealous... this is WHY I always say have a level life yeah see hookers BUT also have a normal dating life as well..were you don't have to always pay for sex whenever you want a nut..

Guys find what works for you what I think is hot or what someone else may think is Super hot is what they think go by there and check it out for yourself. The thing I like about Barbarella's is UNLIKE the Termas these girls can come and go as the please back in the day they had to be dress to the nines in dresses etc. Now you will see some jeans etc. Also I like seeing the girls that dances on stage nude you can pull them when they get off the stage I have always been able to see a few in there I want to do... and to keep it 100% and keeping it real over the years I DON'T see as many hot looking girls in there like I have seen the past decade or so BUT there are still many that I will see in there I want to do and I am a picky person I have gone to Monte Carlo on my last few days there and didn't go with anyone..

Kid Cisco

[QUOTE=Eric Cartman; 1287003]I'd be curious if anyone else recently has had success with this type of approach at Barbarella.

Honestly just with the entrance fee / consumption its not worth going there, IMHO. The chicks I have seen there are not super hot. Hell some were even walking to balcony later at night[/QUOTE]I have been to Barbarellas twice and I have never made the program there. The girls were no better looking than the termas girls and cost more so I left both times. I don't get it. An escort in the USA gave me the following advice about Barbarellas thorugh our corespondance on another site. This is the advice that she gave me:

". If in Rio go to Barbarella. Opens at 10PM. About 80 girls there every night. They will sit with you. Talke to you (in Portuguese) and will negotiate I fee. For an hour or for all night. You can usually get a girl for an hour for $200 and all night for about $400-$500. They'll try to tell you $1000 but don't buy into that they are just trying to get as much out of you as you as they can. You'll have to pay the club $60 to take the girl out. That's their fee for letting the girls hang out there.

Don't jump at the first girl that comes along. Ask the manager for the #1 girl to come over to you. She is drop dead georgous.

How do I know this. My girlfriend Paula use to work thare ans she was the #1 girl at the time. She has since moved on. I use to visit her a couple of times a year. Been to Rio 76 or 7 times now."

I don't know, I get more pleasure out of going to a Teir 1 termas. The girls seem to cost less and look better than Barberellas and they always perform. This has been my experience anyways.

Also, I have picked up a couple of girls at the Balcony that were smoking hot. There are a lot of drugged out ugly girls but it is free to sit there and wait until a "8" or "9" shows up. The problem with the girls I have met at Balcony seems to be service. The better looking ones want to do only a CBJ or something like this.

Again this has been my experience

[QUOTE=HungryStud101; 1287139]I have been to Barbarellas twice and I have never made the program there. The girls were no better looking than the termas girls and cost more so I left both times. I don't get it. An escort in the USA gave me the following advice about Barbarellas thorugh our corespondance on another site. This is the advice that she gave me:

". If in Rio go to Barbarella. Opens at 10PM. About 80 girls there every night. They will sit with you. Talke to you (in Portuguese) and will negotiate I fee. For an hour or for all night. You can usually get a girl for an hour for $200 and all night for about $400-$500. They'll try to tell you $1000 but don't buy into that they are just trying to get as much out of you as you as they can. You'll have to pay the club $60 to take the girl out. That's their fee for letting the girls hang out there.[/QUOTE]You just made my point asking $1000 LOL LOL or asking $400-$500 LOL WTF? LOL after going there for decades I NEVER been told that amount the most have been around 300 reals! And I never paid that much I guess IF a girl can pick out a SIMP she will see if she can run game on him LOL. As far as asking the manager for the #1 girl I can't don't want another man number #1 I want to pick my number #1.

Kid Cisco

[QUOTE=Kid Cisco; 1287277]You just made my point asking $1000 LOL LOL or asking $400-$500 LOL WTF? LOL after going there for decades I NEVER been told that amount the most have been around 300 reals! And I never paid that much I guess IF a girl can pick out a SIMP she will see if she can run game on him LOL. As far as asking the manager for the #1 girl I can't don't want another man number #1 I want to pick my number #1.

Kid Cisco[/QUOTE]I was quoting what this USA escort wrote to me. This is a girl who has lived and worked in Rio. She was the best friend of the #1 girl.

I believe her.

Barbarelas' girls are famous for giving CBJ's.

[QUOTE=Tiradentes;1287318]Barbarelas' girls are famous for giving CBJ's.[/QUOTE]Former Help girls started working Barbarela too. Some of you may remember big butt Renata, the girlfriend of blond Rafaela, worked at Barbarela. Also, Barbarela girls also can be found at Balconi and Dolce Vita, although they try and ask for astronomical prices that the Euro tourist give up. So Barbarela is not what it use to be, but it's still an over-priced venue.

Guys,

I hope that one of you may put aside a doubt of mine. A brazilian dude told me that nowadays in 4x4 there's a woman 'called' Ohana. Does anybody knows if 'this' Ohana is the same of the 'golden age' of 4x4 and the, sometimes, porn performer?

Does anyone have any contact info for her will be in Rio de Janeiro in two weeks any info will be great.

[QUOTE=Kid Cisco; 1287277]You just made my point asking $1000 LOL LOL or asking $400-$500 LOL WTF? LOL after going there for decades I NEVER been told that amount the most have been around 300 reals! And I never paid that much I guess IF a girl can pick out a SIMP she will see if she can run game on him LOL. As far as asking the manager for the #1 girl I can't don't want another man number #1 I want to pick my number #1.

Kid Cisco[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Kid Cisco]There isn't a blue print on what will work for you because what will work for me won't work for the next guy (like the last thing in the world I would do is tell a hooker I live in Rio) why? Many girls like I said that work at Barbarella's have day jobs that isn't in the sex trade and the last thing they want is to see some trick that live in Rio running into him or having him stopping by her place of work at Rio Sul Mall begging and bugging her to come over after work for 200 reals in front of her co-worker. They rather see some sex tourist that is there for a few weeks and never have to worry about seeing him again IF she don't want to.[/QUOTE]Kid Cisco,

I still don't get it. You say you've been going to Rio since the 1970's. If it was the late 70's, that would be 35+ years ago. If you were let's say 22 back then, then that would make you in your late 50's now. You always talk about dressing nice and being in shape. But let's face it, how many of these young garotas are attracted to a person that much older than them (30+ years). From your posts, it makes it sound like they all size you up and go "Wow, he's so hot. I would love to give him a discount price so he can be with me". Why wouldn't a gdp try to high ball you at first. I'm having a hard time believing at Barbarella's that no girl has ever started off with you by asking for R$500.

Also, just because someone lives in Rio doesn't mean it's a disadvantage to see these gdp's outside of their work. I would think that living in Rio would give you less of that sex tourist negative connotation and the girl might actually want to see you as "steady income" for herself. In addition, we aren't all desperate to visit them at Rio Sul in person if that is where they may work during the day. That just sounds embarrassing asking for a programa in public! Haha. There is such technology as SMS that allows you to be subtle in arranging a meeting. I'm just saying.

Invariably, all your posts come back to a mention of "Facebook" and how ALL these girls are dying to come over and see you. Have you divulged your secret to meeting these Brazilian girls on Facebook? Is it just a shotgun approach, ie, I'm going to "add as a friend" every attractive girl that lives in Rio and has an account on Facebook and hopefully some will hit. Like on [I]Fast Times At Ridgemont High[/I], when Damone says "I mean I just send out this vibe and I have personally found that women do respond. I mean, something happens." And Mark Ratner responds "Well, naturally something happens. I mean, you put the vibe out to 30 million chicks, something is going to happen.". Haha. Is that the approach? If you don't want to give away your secrets then no big deal. But hearing about your Facebook goldmine all the time, one cannot help but be curious.

[QUOTE=Azn Safado; 1287693]Kid Cisco,

I still don't get it. You say you've been going to Rio since the 1970's. If it was the late 70's, that would be 35+ years ago. If you were let's say 22 back then, then that would make you in your late 50's now. You always talk about dressing nice and being in shape. But let's face it, how many of these young garotas are attracted to a person that much older than them (30+ years). From your posts, it makes it sound like they all size you up and go "Wow, he's so hot. I would love to give him a discount price so he can be with me". Why wouldn't a gdp try to high ball you at first. I'm having a hard time believing at Barbarella's that no girl has ever started off with you by asking for R$500.

Also, just because someone lives in Rio doesn't mean it's a disadvantage to see these gdp's outside of their work. I would think that living in Rio would give you less of that sex tourist negative connotation and the girl might actually want to see you as "steady income" for herself. In addition, we aren't all desperate to visit them at Rio Sul in person if that is where they may work during the day. That just sounds embarrassing asking for a programa in public! Haha. There is such technology as SMS that allows you to be subtle in arranging a meeting. I'm just saying.

Invariably, all your posts come back to a mention of "Facebook" and how ALL these girls are dying to come over and see you. Have you divulged your secret to meeting these Brazilian girls on Facebook? Is it just a shotgun approach, ie, I'm going to "add as a friend" every attractive girl that lives in Rio and has an account on Facebook and hopefully some will hit. Like on [I]Fast Times At Ridgemont High[/I], when Damone says "I mean I just send out this vibe and I have personally found that women do respond. I mean, something happens." And Mark Ratner responds "Well, naturally something happens. I mean, you put the vibe out to 30 million chicks, something is going to happen.". Haha. Is t+1hat the approach? If you don't want to give away your secrets then no big deal. But hearing about your Facebook goldmine all the time, one cannot help but be curious.[/QUOTE]This post was so 100% full of win even before I got to the Fast Times references, which may have made it through best post of 2012! +1

[QUOTE=Eric Cartman;1287736]This post was so 100% full of win even before I got to the Fast Times references, which may have made it through best post of 2012! +1[/QUOTE]I second that. Azn Safado hit the nail on the head.

[QUOTE=Azn Safado; 1287693]Kid Cisco,

All your posts come back to a mention of "Facebook" and how ALL these girls are dying to come over and see you.[/QUOTE]I can vouch for Kid Cisco on the facebook issue. I get a lot of Brazilian girls who hit me up on facebook, nongdps, ungdps, and regular girls. Some I know their like trying to find gringos who frequent Rio. Then their are girls who find my profile in Brasil groups, friends lists of Brasilians and other monger friend lists. It happens. I just have no time for them because they are vying for the wifey / GFE fella.

I'm in my early 50s and I look late 30s and early 40s and black American of Caribbean and American back ground who has frequent Rio often before and after Help. My badge of honor is when the girls call me "snobby" because they don't feel they come at me stupid with R$400-500s and above bullshit.

And I never been to Barbarella because the girls are overrated by naive gringos. Brasileiros are amused that gdps are getting such high prices, where they pay Niteroi, Bonsucesso, Centro and VM prices for the same girls found in Barbarella.

So I agree with a lot of what Kid Cisco says about Facebook. Those girls see this as a business and we all know that social media is today's business tool. Many gdp's have laptops and home computers, so why is what Kid Cisco hard to believe. Recently I met up with 2 mongers, and we discourage others from socializing with gdps on facebook because the girls share info like us. The even have their own private facebook groups.

Since we are on the fast times reference. Lets visit the greatest movie scene ever. [url]http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xd0f7w_phoebe-cates-fast-times-bikini-scen_sexy[/url]

[QUOTE=Ipanema Carioca; 1287771]I can vouch for Kid Cisco on the facebook issue. I get a lot of Brazilian girls who hit me up on facebook, nongdps, ungdps, and regular girls. Some I know their like trying to find gringos who frequent Rio. Then their are girls who find my profile in Brasil groups, friends lists of Brasilians and other monger friend lists. It happens. I just have no time for them because they are vying for the wifey / GFE fella.

I'm in my early 50s and I look late 30s and early 40s and black American of Caribbean and American back ground who has frequent Rio often before and after Help. My badge of honor is when the girls call me "snobby" because they don't feel they come at me stupid with R$400-500s and above bullshit.

And I never been to Barbarella because the girls are overrated by naive gringos. Brasileiros are amused that gdps are getting such high prices, where they pay Niteroi, Bonsucesso, Centro and VM prices for the same girls found in Barbarella.

So I agree with a lot of what Kid Cisco says about Facebook. Those girls see this as a business and we all know that social media is today's business tool. Many gdp's have laptops and home computers, so why is what Kid Cisco hard to believe. Recently I met up with 2 mongers, and we discourage others from socializing with gdps on facebook because the girls share info like us. The even have their own private facebook groups.[/QUOTE]Thanks Ipanema Carioca,

I see you get it and you know what I am talking about when it comes to Facebook and other social media outlets. Since some guys don't have good luck when it comes to using social media outlet or even meeting or asking girls out or going on a normal date without asking how much 1st lol so they just hit and shake their heads and wonder how it can work for other guys LOL. I have to agree with you when it comes to the girls sharing info with each other and having their own private facebook and yahoo chat groups etc. When this one chick came over my place when I was in Rio got on my laptop and logged in and showed me were this once chick was posting and sent her a private message about how I fuck her when she came over a few days early. So I understand and I agree Facebook isn't for everyone in the wrongs hands it can cause a lot of problems with these chicks if you not careful.

With me I am not into dating or trying to wife up any girl in Rio besides I have a Lady here in the states so I don't care when these girls talk about me to each other LOL I let them know from the get go I am there for a few weeks and I am looking to have fun and hang out and I am not there to find a girlfriend or have one girl hanging around me for days at a time I am just looking to fuck and eat some good food with as many hot girls as I can LOL LOL

And I don't blame you when one of these chicks offer their services to you for R$400-500 you and more guys should look at them like they nuts.

Kid Cisco

[QUOTE=Azn Safado; 1287693]Kid Cisco,

I still don't get it. You say you've been going to Rio since the 1970's. If it was the late 70's, that would be 35+ years ago. If you were let's say 22 back then, then that would make you in your late 50's now. You always talk about dressing nice and being in shape. But let's face it, how many of these young garotas are attracted to a person that much older than them (30+ years). From your posts, it makes it sound like they all size you up and go "Wow, he's so hot. I would love to give him a discount price so he can be with me". Why wouldn't a gdp try to high ball you at first. I'm having a hard time believing at Barbarella's that no girl has ever started off with you by asking for R$500.

Also, just because someone lives in Rio doesn't mean it's a disadvantage to see these gdp's outside of their work. I would think that living in Rio would give you less of that sex tourist negative connotation and the girl might actually want to see you as "steady income" for herself. In addition, we aren't all desperate to visit them at Rio Sul in person if that is where they may work during the day. That just sounds embarrassing asking for a programa in public! Haha. There is such technology as SMS that allows you to be subtle in arranging a meeting. I'm just saying.

Invariably, all your posts come back to a mention of "Facebook" and how ALL these girls are dying to come over and see you. Have you divulged your secret to meeting these Brazilian girls on Facebook? Is it just a shotgun approach, ie, I'm going to "add as a friend" every attractive girl that lives in Rio and has an account on Facebook and hopefully some will hit. Like on [I]Fast Times At Ridgemont High[/I], when Damone says "I mean I just send out this vibe and I have personally found that women do respond. I mean, something happens." And Mark Ratner responds "Well, naturally something happens. I mean, you put the vibe out to 30 million chicks, something is going to happen.". Haha. Is that the approach? If you don't want to give away your secrets then no big deal. But hearing about your Facebook goldmine all the time, one cannot help but be curious.[/QUOTE]Azn Safado,

You still don't get it? Why even try to get it? Or waste your time spending on trying to guess another man age LOL or how another man get girls be it Facebook or whatever? I wouldn't I would be trying to do me? Working on my game working on a way for me to find hot chicks... the thing is this I have found something that have worked for me girls go on Facebook and see my pictures of me at events, parties etc.. and they must like what they see or they have girls friends on there they are cool with and ask about me and then ask to be my friend guess what ? some I accept and some I don't ... What you believe or don't believe I won't loose sleep over it I am busy doing me LOL what Jay Z said (what you eat don't make me shit) LOL

But, to keep it real I am use to guys not getting it .. I get the same looks at times when I fly 1st class and I see other guys walking pass me wondering how he can fly up there in 1st class on a $9,000+ ticket and I can't ?? later I get asked do or did I play basketball or use to play football or asked some other dumb question..no big deal but I am use to guys wondering or being curious about me..

You see we have different mind-sets you look at living in Rio or meeting girls as you being her sugar Daddy or being her """" STEADY INCOME""" I would look at living in Rio as being her steady Stud that will dick her down at night that will be fucking her to death for free or going out to a disco or club when you would look at it as being her steady trick giving her money all the time. so you see I can see how you wouldn't believe me or any guy going out on a normal date with a chick without looking to trick off his paycheck or retirement money lol living in overseas places like I have in my life I don't look at meeting girls to be her " steady trick income"" I look at meeting girls when I lived overseas is to add her on my steady booty call list...

Do I think I am Don Juan or something no BUT do I think I am the shit or the best I can be yes I do I try my best to look and dress well and look good when I am going out and not look like a bum .. I feel any man should feel good about himself do girls try to run game on me yes sure they do BUT they learn fast I am not some horny simp that is willing pay them whatever they want either and like I said the most a chick asked me in the that place was 300 reals and she lower her asking price WHY she did ? was it because she thought I was hot ? who knows you have to ask her that maybe because it was late at night or her rent was due who knows or who cares as long as I got me a fare deal ..

And BTW I stated going to Rio much early then when I was 22 hell even when I was 16 I was already 6'2 I am 6'5 now and when I try to promote a male should keep and stay in shape what is wrong with that? Eating right and working out? And drinking lots of water helps too and like Ipanema Carioca said he is in his early 50's BUT look to be in his late 30's some of us DON'T age fast or as bad as others do try using Jergens Ultra Healing its a good moisturizer with Vitamin 3 it (penetrates through 5 layers of skin's surface to start healing at the source and help with the aging process ) lol lol

Kid Cisco.

[B]Laura 4x4[/B]

Early afternoon in Rio and time to head to 4x4. Wingman had an afternoon session and would meetup with me later.

Entered the boate and sighted a chica I saw on a previous visit but did not session with. When I saw her on the previous visit I wanted to session with her but I missed the chance. I had turned to my right to say something to someone and when I turned back to my left to look at her again she was talking with a guy. Oh well you snooze you lose, and there will always be another day I thought to myself. So this day I didn't waste time and went to talk to her as soon as I saw her. She remembered seeing me on my other visit and I asked her if she remembered sticking her tongue out at me when she went upstairs with the other guy. She laughed and said she did remember. We had some laughs and chatted for a bit before heading upstairs. She told me her tits were sore as she just had surgery so I wouldn't be able to play with them and if that was ok. I said no problem and up we went. I decided to take 1 hour in the super suite this time so I could explore her slowly.

She was fairly tall in her shoes, high heels of course, about 5'7 or so would be my best guess. 2 butterfly tattoos. 1 on her back and 1 on her front. Long dark hair, nice silicone tits, thin waist, and a great looking ass. A quick shower in the room and she came to me on the bed. Very passionate kissing, nice lips, no tongue down my throat or million mph thrashing either which was nice. My hands were wandering over her body which was nice and firm everywhere. I forgot a couple of times about her sore titties but remembered for the most part. She gives a great BBBJ, at times literally fucking me with her mouth. Some DATY and all the usual positions but doggie was my favorite as her ass was a delight to watch. She could move it 6 ways from Sunday! I ended up pulling out, taking the condom off, and popping on her ass cheeks. Freakin glorious!

A great session with her which would only have been better she didn't have sore titties and if I had asked about anal. I will ask next time hehehe. Definitely recommend a person take a look at her.

[B]Date of encounter: 30 May 2012[/B]

Name: Laura.

Age: 23.

Languages: Portuguese, little english.

[B]Making Contact[/B]

How did you find her: checking out the chicas in 4x4.

Link: na.

Did she match her pics: na.

Percentage Photoshop: na.

Was she on time: na.

Neighborhood: Centro, Rua Buenos Aires 44.

[B]Does she or doesn't she[/B]

Anal: Didn't ask.

Oral w or w / o: w / o, very good BBBJ, enthusiastic,

Kissing: lots of kissing, even during doggie.

Any restrictions: tits were sore as she just had some surgery so no playing with them.

[B]How would you rate her[/B]

Face: 7, nice looking girl.

Tits: 7, nice, silicone, couldn't play with them so can't say much else.

Ass: 8, beautiful butt, very nice to watch from behind.

Body: 7. 5, nice body, thin waist which makes her ass look great.

[B]Level of Service[/B]

Enthusiastic or Business-Like: very enthusiastic.

Clock Watcher: no.

Her strong point: her overall demeanor, really into the sex.

Her weak point: sore titties due to surgery, but this will pass.

$$$ & Time: $335 reals included drinks. 1 hour in super suite, no entrada (SS was 300 reals for 1 hr)

Overall Rating of Encounter: 7. 5, she would have gotten an 8 except for the sore titties thing.

Do you recommend: yes definitely. I would repeat even if just to check out the titties better and if completa.

[B]Arielle Cancun[/B]

Met up with my wingman and after a bite to eat we headed off to Terma Cancun on Rua do Carmo. A small terma with seating along the walls. Most nights has a live band with chicas dancing alone and with clients. Tonight was a slow night with lots of chicas available. I spotted a chica with long blonde hair and a great looking body, from behind. She was with a couple other girls talking with a guy and I didn't get to see her face until she turned around. Wow! Very good looking girl. A hottie most certainly and one of the prettiest I've seen this trip. No tattoos that I saw (found out later there is one down by her puss) , nice firm looking titties, tight ass, no 'pooch' on the belly. She gave me a smile and turned back to talk with her group. A few minutes later the guy left and she turned back to me with another big smile. I called her over, asked her name, Arielle, and introduced her to my wingman. He had his eye on a couple others so I talked to her for a couple of minutes, found out it was her first night in Cancun and no trips upstairs yet. I told her I was going to relax for a bit but wanted to talk to her a little later. She gave me a smile and said ok. I sat back and checked out the chicas while waiting for dinner to digest. Not a good feeling after eating fast! LOL. I asked my wingman if he had made a choice yet and he hadn't. I told him if Arielle was available when I was ready I may do a session with her even though I just had one at 4x4. Later I looked around, saw Arielle and called her over. We chatted for a bit and I decided I had to try her out. She was too good looking to me not too. Found out how new Arielle was when she had to ask where we went to get the room. Took a 1 hour session in a regular cabine, which had a shower and bed. Showered up while Arielle went to grab her kit and was ready to go when she entered the cabine.

She did a slow strip-tease for me which was great and she definitely has a fine body. I pulled her to me and we started kissing but she would stop the kiss and start running her tongue over my neck, earlobes, and chest. For some reason I didn't feel the passion from her and it seemed like she had a guide to follow. A little of this, a little of that, etc etc. Her BBBJ was good but I had better and worse. Things started to get better shortly after she got the dick in her and seemed to be enjoying it. It kept getting better, more passionate, her body showing all the signs of an enjoyable fuck. She could certainly move and grind when she wanted to! CG, reverse cg, doggie, prone on her front and popped in the condom.

The session ended much better than it started which I was happy about. She asked for my number which I gave to her but we will see if she calls or not. I don't think she will as her HUSBAND called just before we exited the cabine! LOL. I can't DEFINITELY recommend her even though I may session with her again to see if it is better second time around. If you give her a try you may have a different experience than I did. She is definitely a hottie in my books and even after having a kid 2 years ago her body doesn't show it.

[B]Date of encounter: 30 May 2012[/B]

Name: Arielle.

Age: 23.

Languages: Portuguese, little english.

[B]Making Contact[/B]

How did you find her: girl watching in Terma Cancun.

Link: na.

Did she match her pics: na.

Percentage Photoshop: na.

Was she on time: na.

Neighborhood: Centro, Terma Cancun, Rua do Carmo 64.

[B]Does she or doesn't she[/B]

Anal: Didn't ask.

Oral w or w / o: w / o, BBBJ was ok have had better and have had worse,

Kissing: some kissing not a lot.

Any restrictions: not that I saw but I didn't ask about anal.

[B]How would you rate her[/B]

Face: 8, very pretty face.

Tits: 7, nice natural tits.

Ass: 8, nice tight butt.

Body: 8, I have to give her an 8 as she is one of the better lookers imo this trip.

[B]Level of Service[/B]

Enthusiastic or Business-Like: business-like to start, not as passionate as other girls have been, but got better as time went by during the session.

Clock Watcher: no.

Her strong point: her overall look and body.

Her weak point: not very affectionate at start of session.

$$$ & Time: $288 reals included drinks. 1 hour including entrada.

Overall Rating of Encounter: 7, slow to start out though it got better.

Do you recommend: yes and no. I may repeat to see if a second time is better as she is a definite hottie. YMMV with this girl

I couldn't care less about other forum members age, race, length, their work, if they travel first class, have Louis Vuitton bags or where they come from.
My only interest in this forum is information that will help my mongering in Rio.

[QUOTE=Kid Cisco; 1287931]Azn Safado,

You still don't get it? Why even try to get it? Or waste your time spending on trying to guess another man age LOL or how another man get girls be it Facebook or whatever? I wouldn't I would be trying to do me? Working on my game working on a way for me to find hot chicks. The thing is this I have found something that have worked for me girls go on Facebook and see my pictures of me at events, parties etc. And they must like what they see or they have girls friends on there they are cool with and ask about me and then ask to be my friend guess what? Some I accept and some I don't. What you believe or don't believe I won't loose sleep over it I am busy doing me LOL what Jay Z said (what you eat don't make me shit) LOL

Kid Cisco.[/QUOTE]Kid Cisco,

When I said "I still don't get it", the "it" I was referring to was your mystique, or the secret to your success. Trying to guess your age was just a way of getting one piece of the puzzle together. I do enjoy reading your posts and the advice you give, but the conversation seems to always turn to making all mongers sound like suckers while hyping yourself up by talking about Facebook and how your phone is ringing off the hook. I agree, it doesn't matter what I believe, but I just wanted to finally hear an answer from you about the whole Facebook thing, which you have provided in your last post. My curiosity is satisfied now. No flame war was intended. Let's go back to talking about garotas.

Was just cruising around "Google Earth" and discovered the "street view" of Rio and "HELP." If you look closely, you can see that demolition has begun, so the photo must have been taken only 2 or 3 days AFTER it closed as within very few days "HELP" and "Sobre as Ondas" had been reduced to a large hole in the ground. I was there, I remember.

Kid see, do you ever worry about your girl pretending to be one of these girls looking to hook up with you, and when you respond yes, you get busted. Thats the one thing I don't understand about facebook. It is so easy to make a fake profile and friend your boyfriend or husband to see if they will bite when it comes to an affair. Your picture is on there so they know its you. How do married and taken guys hook up with all these girls on fcebook with no worries of the SO finding out.

Does anyone know the exact location at the airport where one can pay and get a ride to Ipanema / Copa? I usually grab a taxi, but I am curious and would like to try the bus option and see if it is worth the hassle in order to save the $.

[QUOTE=Mangera;1288248]Does anyone know the exact location at the airport where one can pay and get a ride to Ipanema / Copa? I usually grab a taxi, but I am curious and would like to try the bus option and see if it is worth the hassle in order to save the $.[/QUOTE]As you exit the international arrival area, turn right and wade through the phalanx of people waiting for people, go outside to the sidewalk and continue to your right. Eventually (not THAT far really) you will see signs the say something to the effect of "ONibuS PARKING ONLY" and there will probably be one or more new looking large "tour" type buses parked there. Ask the attendants which one goes to Copa and get in line.

I almost always use the bus to Copa. Its only real downside is the time it takes from the airport to Copa. Since the route goes through San Cristavao (sp?) , past Novo Rodoviaria, Centro, and on to Santos Dumont before heading to Copa / Ipanema, depending on traffic, it can take a fair amount of time. But it's a comfy bus.

[QUOTE=Mangera;1288248]Does anyone know the exact location at the airport where one can pay and get a ride to Ipanema / Copa? I usually grab a taxi, but I am curious and would like to try the bus option and see if it is worth the hassle in order to save the $.[/QUOTE]The company name is Real Bus (they are blue busses). Exit the arrivals area at either Terminal 1 or Terminal 2 and ask anyone for the Real Bus. Lines form to the right-most end of the taxi lines. Cost is R$ 12 to Copacabana / Ipanema. Busses circulate with a scheduled frequency of every 20 minutes. Travel time is 45 min to 1 hour depending on traffic.

Thank you for the information gentlemen. I will write a report once I get to Rio next week. I will either take the big tour bus, smaller shuttle bus, worse case scenario. Taxi outside the departure area. Thanks again.

I hope it gets back to 2. 5 or above in a few months, then everyone will have cash to spend on the GDPs or "non pro" brasilieras. I don't know KC but if he can get 10 freebies a week and pay 6 9k for first class tickets, more power to him. On the other hand, berating others for paying while posting on a mongering board doesn't make any sense either.

I have had freebies and I have paid my fair share for pussy. On the freebies, was it my looks? The nice restaurants? The upscale apt with air and comfy bed? Or the fact I am such a cool dude? Who knows LOL. I do know this: many times a supposed freebie ended up costing me more than a GDP in terms of headaches and money spent whether in Santo Domingo, Bangkok or Río. Lastly these women are human beings with feelings and yes theyo do on rare occasions fall in love or oftentimes will go a on regular date just to be treated like a normal girl for a night.

In my 20s I used to travel to Rio on buddy passes until I discovered the benefits of elite airline status. Using miles to upgrade or using SWU certs keeps you from paying these ridiculous Biz class fares.

PS i am typing on a cellphone so theres some latency on the posts. I suggest we cease witn the racial references. I am sure that KC's aggressive posts have resulted in passionate exchanges or in better words "he pissed off more than a few of you guys, I am not accusing anyone of racial intolerance , just a simple request for everyone to get back to talking about bundas and GDPs. I hope I didn't make too many grammatical errors :-)

[QUOTE=LuvnLatinas]The session ended much better than it started which I was happy about. She asked for my number which I gave to her but we will see if she calls or not. I don't think she will as her HUSBAND called just before we exited the cabine! LOL.[/QUOTE]LuvnLatinas,

If you really had a good time with this chick please DON'T let the phone called from her husband stop you from having her come over your place trust me IF her husband called her he knows already where she works and what she is doing or just finish doing LOL I post about a chick I met in Rio at this place that came by my place that had her husband cooked her and me some Frango / chicken and drove her over my place after work and she stayed most of the night. And he stayed at home with their baby as a matter of fact I saw the baby in the backseat when he drop her off in front of my place ha ha.

Come to think about it she had one of the nicest Bunda on my last trip and she did ANAL too LOL I was fucking her saying in her ear do you husband and can he get deep all up in your ass like this LOL LOL she was like nao nao nao LOL LOL

But, on the real LuvnLatinas many of these girls you would find if they are honest with you will tell you they are married or engaged or have a boyfriend as long as you not talking like you want to date them or wife them up or act like you Jealous some of them are up front with you about their private life.

As a matter of fact many girls I have got to know on Facebook that over the past year or so that have changed their status to engaged and some that have changed their status to married and even posted pictures of their wedding still found the time to come by my place after work to get fucked really good when I was in Rio LOL hell its not like I was going to post and tell the world on them LOL LOL all I wanted and got was to get my dick suck and get a good fucking.

And HelpRules hit me up by PM and I will answer your question about the facebook question you have. And Carrib I too use skymiles and buddy passes along with paying with my Delta airline credit card to earned skymiles when flying too along with paying cash.

I am always looking for a deal hell I am cheap when it comes to many times BUT on certain things I like the best hell look at Puffy / P Diddy the press is giving him hell right now because his son is going to USC to play football on a full scholarship and Diddy is worth millions BUT the bottom line his son had the grades and was a good football player and earned the right to go there and the school offer him one. Hell many CEO kids get a free ride to go to school everyday and you never hear about it. When it comes to paying for ass just because you have money doesn't mean you should blow it on over price ass. But if that is what you want to do hell its your money.

But, didn't we talk about this already? How guys would rather go to private apartments and get good service at a lower price? But some like me would rather go to a Tier 1 termas whats wrong with that? We all have certain things we place a high or low value on me being 6'5 I have to consider and place my comfort 1st.

Kid Cisco

[QUOTE=Kid Cisco;1288393]LuvnLatinas, If you really had a good time with this chick please DON'T let the phone called from her husband stop you from having her come over your place trust me IF her husband called her he knows already where she works and what she is doing or just finish doing LOLKid Cisco[/QUOTE]Hey KC, there is no way I would turn her down if she calls, not with her looks and body. I stopped by Cancun last night and she never made it out of the wiskeria, the brazilian business guys had her tied up all night. For me, if she calls, she calls. If she don't, she don't. I know where she will be when / if I want to see her again.

Balcony in trouble again. Drugs and loud music.

[url]http://noticias.r7.com/rio-de-janeiro/noticias/policia-encontra-prostitutas-em-restaurante-da-zona-sul-do-rio-20120530.html[/url]

[QUOTE=Sperto; 1288641]Balcony in trouble again. Drugs and loud music.

[url]http://noticias.r7.com/rio-de-janeiro/noticias/policia-encontra-prostitutas-em-restaurante-da-zona-sul-do-rio-20120530.html[/url][/QUOTE]This is what happens when you don't have a place like Help for mongers and gdp's to go WITH a cover charge. This place will only get worse. When you allow every ugly gangster ghetto chick in a place with no cover, your place will eventually be a ghetto. Period. I went to Help 70 to 80 nights over my travels there. I don't remember one fight. I think there was one nasty argument that the bouncers ended pretty quick. For the most part it was great. I went to Balcony 3 nights on my last brazil trip, and there was one fight. The next night there was this crazy girl that had it out with the police and another girl fighting later that same night. I never went back. Balcony girls are what you guys will end up with that marry working girls once they get a little older and lose their looks.

[QUOTE=Riofan6;1288076]Was just cruising around "Google Earth" and discovered the "street view" of Rio and "HELP." If you look closely, you can see that demolition has begun, so the photo must have been taken only 2 or 3 days AFTER it closed as within very few days "HELP" and "Sobre as Ondas" had been reduced to a large hole in the ground. I was there, I remember.[/QUOTE]Good days of Rio are gone! I used to live in Copa in the 70's. I knew Help from the beggining and it was great!

São Paulo is much better for mongering now, the clinicas and the privês offer you very good choices. And prices are much better than in Rio.

[QUOTE=AltoBomGosto;1288730]Good days of Rio are gone! I used to live in Copa in the 70's. I knew Help from the beggining and it was great! São Paulo is much better for mongering now, the clinicas and the privês offer you very good choices. And prices are much better than in Rio.[/QUOTE]But no beach (grin). I haven't been to SP in a few years but had a good time the couple of times I was there. At that time SP prices were a lot higher than Rio. I remember the better looking girls at the clubs asking 500 reals. I'll have to read up on SP as BA is only a 3+ hr flight from Brazil.

I've wandered the Balcony area a few times this trip and the talent was hit and miss. I'd see a few nice looking girls and a lot of the nicer looking girls were never there very long, getting picked up within 10 minutes of arriving. If you saw someone and were interested you had better make your move fast or risk losing her to someone faster. The talent did pick up as the night wore on, usually after 1am, and my good wingman, who can go all night long, has seen some Barbarella girls there around 4ish. By that time I have been asleep for awhile LOL! He did mention a film crew there the other night.

[QUOTE=AltoBomGosto; 1288730]Good days of Rio are gone! I used to live in Copa in the 70's. I knew Help from the beggining and it was great!

São Paulo is much better for mongering now, the clinicas and the privês offer you very good choices. And prices are much better than in Rio.[/QUOTE]For example? Gives us some price comparisons, or a list of such places with good prices please! I thank you in advance!

According to my own experience GDP in São Paulo are less mercenárias (money hunger) than their paulistana counterparts. Rio is basically a touristic city. With its hord of unexperienced hobbyists with virtually no knowledge of the language or the culture. And the GDP can ask for higher prices because they know that they will always have gringos to pay the bill.

In São Paulo the gringos visit places like Café Photo, Scandallo, Bomboa which have prices similar to those in Rio (from R$300$ up to R$1000). You can have very good session in São Paulo for less than that! As said ABG, privê and CLínicas are very affordable; for less than R$150 you can have a complete hour (in privês) and less than R$220 (in CLínicas).

In SP, GDP are less mercenárias because they know that the competition is verocious. They will do their best to keep a "regular" customer with them. Some GDP on the top of the list even offer special promotions to keep their clientele. I'm thinking, for example, of Carol Pierre (she raised her prices two day ago from R$300 to $R350) who offers a free TD after four TD with her (if I'm not mistaken).

With free lance GDP, in the 250$R/$R300 range (there are also very good GDP at R$100 / R$150) you can spend a lot of time if the chemistry between you and her is good and if she is not a clock watcher (or a mercenária).

A couple of years ago, I compared hobbying between Rio and São Paulo like fishing an alevin in an artificial pound (Rio) and fishing a sword fish in the open sea. It's easy to hobby in Rio, the crowded places are easy to find and your pleasure is guaranteed; In SP, you need to find the good places, you still have to do some work (use your charm) to seduce a GDP and have extra mileage. As I like hunting, I still prefer SP and, frankly, there are less gringos. (even if I'm one of them)

[QUOTE=Sui Generis;1288838]According to my own experience GDP in São Paulo are less mercenárias (money hunger) than their paulistana counterparts. )[/QUOTE]You mean the paulistna are less mercenarias than the carioca, right?

[QUOTE=Bionicman;1288859]You mean the paulistna are less mercenarias than the carioca, right?[/QUOTE]Oh yes, my mistake, sorry. I stand corrected.

GDP in São Paulo are (in general) less mercenárias than those in Rio.

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Brazilian boards report freelancer sabrina south at mosaico.

90r v 250r.

Tami moricet former Karlamodels at mosaico too.

Also vivien more td's

stumbled across club henri at barra beach one night, had given up finding it earlier because the directions were misleading. the house numbers trick you into thinking you have already passed it, and then suddenly jump back in sequence. the address is av. do pepê.400. barra the tijuca. hours seem to be 8pm to 2am every day, and according to rumors some nights are dedicated swingers nights. beware!

i paid an entrance fee of 40 brl just to check out the place, even if it was too late in the night for planning some action. premises were not too bad, with seating for about 30 guests around a small dance floor and along a corridor towards the bar. a small outdoor area seemed inviting. on less rainy nights. there were about 30 girls (not bad on a tuesday) , entertaining the 20 guests. i sat down enjoying the sights, and was chatted up by a handful of not-too-pushy girls. some of the girls present were clearly doable, at 8 or more, while the majority were 6-7. i would place most of them in the range 25 to 32, only one clearly older. to my surprise, only one had fake tits, a nice change from most other mongering sites.

close to closing time (2am, i think) , i got in touch with the by far hottest one, linda, who turned out to bee the sweetest, girlfriendiest thing i have ever met "on duty". she is 22, blonde, very petite (close to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]-ish) , and has a bubbling, fun personality. we agreed to meet the following evening, and when she showed up. fashinably late. i instantly knew she was a hit. it did not take us long to negotiate the deal and rush upstairs. we got the first room on the left, which was almost living up to its "luxury suite" label, a nice big bathroom, a huge bed with plenty of pillows and mirrors in the right places. the action was just steaming. i could not believe how many fun positions we managed to go through, several first-timers to me made possible by linda's flexible and light body. and the enthusiasm and pleasure she projected was so overwhelming that, if even just 1% of it were real, she was a very happy girl. she was dripping wet without any fake lube, and the way her tiny body downed my baton was simply a miracle to watch and feel. the deal was one hour, and after what felt like two hours (she sent the manager away twice) of pure pleasure, talking, cuddling, repeat action and the most exquisite explosions, we showered and went downstairs again.

there she introduced me to her slightly older sister, a dark haired version from the same mold. she was working there too, and you may already have guessed what is my plan for the next visit.

btw, she is also to be found at centaurus some nights, but told me to phone her in advance and meet her at henri only "in order not to waste money". what a catch!

some short facts:

linda. 22, blonde, from the minas region.

language: limited english, some spanish.

body: very petite, nice curvy body, small tits. 9.9.

attitude: a clean 10.

cfs: 10.

cbj: 9.

bbbj: no.

daty: 9.

anal: did not ask.

positions: anything you can imagine.

damage: 200brl + 40brl door, easily worth 400 in my book.

wir: yup, asap and with a special order.

monger on!

peff

[quote=peff13; 1288965]stumbled across club henri at barra beach one night, had given up finding it earlier because the directions were misleading. the house numbers trick you into thinking you have already passed it, and then suddenly jump back in sequence. the address is av. do pepê.400. barra the tijuca. hours seem to be 8pm to 2am every day, and according to rumors some nights are dedicated swingers nights. beware!

i paid an entrance fee of 40 brl just to check out the place, even if it was too late in the night for planning some action. premises were not too bad, with seating for about 30 guests around a small dance floor and along a corridor towards the bar. a small outdoor area seemed inviting. on less rainy nights. there were about 30 girls (not bad on a tuesday) , entertaining the 20 guests. i sat down enjoying the sights, and was chatted up by a handful of not-too-pushy girls. some of the girls present were clearly doable, at 8 or more, while the majority were 6-7. i would place most of them in the range 25 to 32, only one clearly older. to my surprise, only one had fake tits, a nice change from most other mongering sites.

close to closing time (2am, i think) , i got in touch with the by far hottest one, linda, who turned out to bee the sweetest, girlfriendiest thing i have ever met "on duty". she is 22, blonde, very petite (close to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]-ish) , and has a bubbling, fun personality. we agreed to meet the following evening, and when she showed up. fashinably late. i instantly knew she was a hit. it did not take us long to negotiate the deal and rush upstairs. we got the first room on the left, which was almost living up to its "luxury suite" label, a nice big bathroom, a huge bed with plenty of pillows and mirrors in the right places. the action was just steaming. i could not believe how many fun positions we managed to go through, several first-timers to me made possible by linda's flexible and light body. and the enthusiasm and pleasure she projected was so overwhelming that, if even just 1% of it were real, she was a very happy girl. she was dripping wet without any fake lube, and the way her tiny body downed my baton was simply a miracle to watch and feel. the deal was one hour, and after what felt like two hours (she sent the manager away twice) of pure pleasure, talking, cuddling, repeat action and the most exquisite explosions, we showered and went downstairs again.

there she introduced me to her slightly older sister, a dark haired version from the same mold. she was working there too, and you may already have guessed what is my plan for the next visit.

btw, she is also to be found at centaurus some nights, but told me to phone her in advance and meet her at henri only "in order not to waste money". what a catch!

some short facts:

linda. 22, blonde, from the minas region.

language: limited english, some spanish.

body: very petite, nice curvy body, small tits. 9.9.

attitude: a clean 10.

cfs: 10.

cbj: 9.

bbbj: no.

daty: 9.

anal: did not ask.

positions: anything you can imagine.

damage: 200brl + 40brl door, easily worth 400 in my book.

wir: yup, asap and with a special order.

monger on!

peff[/quote]wow good report! sounds like a fun place that need to be added to my list.

kid cisco

[QUOTE=Ipanema Carioca;1288819]For example? Gives us some price comparisons, or a list of such places with good prices please! I thank you in advance![/QUOTE]I think Sui Generis did a good comparaison of the two cities!

[QUOTE=Peff13; 1288965]Some short facts:

Linda. 22, blonde, from the Minas region.

Language: Limited English, some Spanish.

Body: Very petite, nice curvy body, small tits. 9.9.

Attitude: A clean 10.

CFS: 10.

CBJ: 9.

BBBJ: No.

DATY: 9.

Anal: Did not ask.

Positions: Anything you can imagine.

Damage: 200BRL + 40BRL door, Easily worth 400 in my book.

WIR: Yup, ASAP and with a special order.

Monger on!

Peff[/QUOTE]Excellent report Peff! Thanks for sharing. I haven't been out to Barra in years. Doesn't sound like the 400 has changed since then either. Praia do Pepe usually has some real hotties on it as well. You may want to check out the beach around Posto 1-2 as the chicas from the club used to hang out there, but that may have changed.

[QUOTE=Sui Generis;1288838]According to my own experience GDP in São Paulo are less mercenárias (money hunger) than their carioca counterparts.[/QUOTE]May I chime in?

I couldn't agree more. Nonetheless I'd add that "normal" paulistas (non-pros) are also less arrogant than their Rio cousins. They are also more educated, modest, cultured and worldly. They don't despise foreigners and don't see in the fact of dating a gringo a loss of status, as most cariocas do. On the whole, SP is MUCH better than Rio both for the P4P hobbyist and the non-pro player.

Just spotted this beauty on the Casa19 webpage. Anybody in Rio had carnal knowledge of her? I'll be in Rio in 3 weeks time, she'll be on my "to do2 list.

[url]http://www.casa19.com/ticiane.html[/url]

I've spotted her too!

I think the attractive new girls at the prives always present a good opportunity. The prives, Scortshow agency, and maybe Mosaico seems to be like a minor league for the big league Tier 1 and Tier 2 Termas. By the time a girl is generating 375R Revenue per night at Monte Carlo, she is generating Class A or Class B income.

Elisa from Bel Prazer (or one of the centro termas) went on to top freelancer site, riosexsite.

Luana Alves from Ju Panteras went on to Bianka Macedo and now a new name on hotside. Com. Br.

Bia from Massagem Tijuca is now at Solarium Terma according to a PM from Bubba Boy. I did Bia and posted some pix. On the Brazilian boards, they complain that she was the only girl at Massagem Tijuca doing anal.

The brazilian boards say Casa 19 girls go over to 4x4 (from 100R an hour to 240R an hour, but if you include the 50R anal upsell, I guess it is 150R to 240R).

Gabi, the mulata I had at a centro terma, was gone in 2 weeks and she was a Tier 1 quality girl for 70R for 30 minutes.

[QUOTE=Torgoch; 1289187]Just spotted this beauty on the Casa19 webpage. Anybody in Rio had carnal knowledge of her? I'll be in Rio in 3 weeks time, she'll be on my "to do2 list.

[url]http://www.casa19.com/ticiane.html[/url][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=PatmarBeleza1;1289275]Bia from Massagem Tijuca is now at Solarium Terma according to a PM from Bubba Boy. I did Bia and posted some pix. On the Brazilian boards, they complain that she was the only girl at Massagem Tijuca doing anal.[/QUOTE]Just for the record she gives up the ass very sparingly. 3 months ago you could do her for R$80, now at Solarium with entrance etc R$450.

Well, I'm glad I got her cuzinho. The right answer when a prive girl asks if you know the house is that you're a new customer, and you're going to be in Rio for at least 3 weeks.

The guys on the Brazilian boards are saying Bia only gave them anal to get them as new customers.

[url]http://www.hotforum.com.br/forum_posts.asp?TID=8008&PN=24[/url]

For these and others that I do not leave home without consulting our oracle.

Damn valew the report, even negative (it is there guys, let's post).

I esvata crazy about her, and I like the house to be near where I live (maybe we are not neighbors, kkkk, this world is small even kkkk).

But all I ate there so far (and do not intend to return until you have interesting stories) was the BIA, even with half his mouth and blowjob bureaucratic kisses, fucking hell, only to see that mouth snapping the cock or else those perky tits in my mouth already earned. Not to mention that when I did it with a hardcore anal, dog type, D4, and there I buried everything and stroking her tits.

If I go back to reperir going to be with her, because of anal, because no I ate after she did anal with me.

But I fear that she has done anal for me to become a client of the house at all when I met her was exactly the day I met him home and fuck her before had asked me if I knew.

So I guess I had frame of her (she has a face of a con man / saint that makes me crazy).

Is a tip for anyone wanting to try their luck. I think the tip is out there making a "Tour" by privés, take over the mine kitten and when she asks: I knew the house? And you answer no, it will almost always offer you an excellent service, but it is only for you to turn customer.

É por essas e outras que eu andão saio de casa sem consultar o nosso oráculo.

Poxa valew pelo relato, ainda que negativo (é isso ai galera, vamos postar).

Eu esvata louco por ela, e gosto the casa por ser perto de onde eu moro (quem sabe andão somos vizinhos, kkkk, esse mundo é pequeno mesmo, kkkk).

Mas de todas que comi lá até agora (e andão pretendo voltar até another site relatos interessantes) foi a Bia, mesmo com seu boquete meia boca e beijos burocráticos, puta que pariu, só de ver aquela boquinha abocanhando a piroca ou então aqueles peitinhos durinhos na minha boquinha já valeram. Sem contar que quando estive com ela fez uma anal hardcore, tipo cachorra, D4 e eu lá enterrando tudo e alisando os peitinhos.

Se eu voltar lá vai ser pra reperir com ela, por causa do anal, pois nenhuma que comi depois dela fez anal comigo.

Mas tenho receio de que ela tenha feito anal para eu me tornar cliente the casa, afinal quando estive com ela foi exatamente no dia que eu conheci a casa e ela antes the foda havia me perguntado se eu já conhecia.

Então acho que teve armação the parte dela (ela tem uma carinha de vigarista / santinha que me deixa louco).

Fica a dica para quem quiser tentar a sorte.

Acho que a dica é sair por ai fazendo um "Tour" pelos privês, pegar a mina mais gatinha e quando ela perguntar: Já conhecia a casa? E você responder andão, quase sempre ela vai te oferecer um excelente atendimento, mas é só para você virar freguês.

[QUOTE=Bubba Boy;1289314]Just for the record she gives up the ass very sparingly. 3 months ago you could do her for R$80, now at Solarium with entrance etc R$450.[/QUOTE]

FYI Friend of mine just told me they start wearing short dresses this week and so gone are lingerie. I was there last week and fortunately this was not yet in force. Could be fall out from recent investigation. I sessioned with big booty incredible looking morena Caucasian called Isabella total dud in the sack. Claims she was new and former 4x4 girl. Do not waste your time!

Safado

It's creditable to do your research in advance. I was paying concentration to fare on a daily basis for my upcoming Rio Aug 2012 trip, since last month flight to Rio cost me $1400. AA. Com has a promotion until June 7th for Rio nonstop rt from US under $1000. I couldn't resist and bought a US to Rio rt trip non stop for $943 which is the finest fare within the last 2 years. I'm preparing to conclude the unfinished business from the May 2012 trip. I ordered a drink by one of those beach vendors 2 days before my return trip back to US, and I got awfully sick. I couldn't eat or drink anything for two days properly on the last 2 days in Rio, and finally got recovered as I got back to US. I believe it has something to do with dreadful hygiene upshot or bacteria outcome etc. Despite all the efforts, the total trip cost me $4700 for 10 days, including air fare, apt, Termas, agencias etc with 14 garotas. However, the ticket and apartment cost me US $2k. I really deem that budget banging could be accomplished in Rio, as long as the airfare and apt cost is low. Thus, I'm strictly planning to keep my entire 11 day trip in Aug 2012 under net US $4k.

[QUOTE=Safado69; 1290207]FYI Friend of mine just told me they start wearing short dresses this week and so gone are lingerie. I was there last week and fortunately this was not yet in force. Could be fall out from recent investigation. I sessioned with big booty incredible looking morena Caucasian called Isabella total dud in the sack. Claims she was new and former 4x4 girl. Do not waste your time!

Safado[/QUOTE]Damn! Terrible news! Thanks for the heads up on Isabella. I'm an ASS man. I always look for big phat asses in the termas and Monte Carlo usually has a good supply. I will avoid her. Thanks

[QUOTE=ChrisDrug;1290294]It's creditable to do your research in advance. I was paying concentration to fare on a daily basis for my upcoming Rio Aug 2012 trip, since last month flight to Rio cost me $1400. AA. Com has a promotion until June 7th for Rio nonstop rt from US under $1000. I couldn't resist and bought a US to Rio rt trip non stop for $943 which is the finest fare within the last 2 years. I'm preparing to conclude the unfinished business from the May 2012 trip. I ordered a drink by one of those beach vendors 2 days before my return trip back to US, and I got awfully sick. I couldn't eat or drink anything for two days properly on the last 2 days in Rio, and finally got recovered as I got back to US. I believe it has something to do with dreadful hygiene upshot or bacteria outcome etc. Despite all the efforts, the total trip cost me $4700 for 10 days, including air fare, apt, Termas, agencias etc with 14 garotas. However, the ticket and apartment cost me US $2k. I really deem that budget banging could be accomplished in Rio, as long as the airfare and apt cost is low. Thus, I'm strictly planning to keep my entire 11 day trip in Aug 2012 under net US $4k.[/QUOTE]I know English is not the first language for many on this forum, so I am reaching out in hopes that someone might be able to offer a translation.

Thanks!

Could a kind soul please shed some light on the beach scene in rip? Where is it? How do you find the girls? Do you go to their place or can you rent a room per the hour? Any views on quality?

Am going to Rio for 24 hours next week and will be staying on the Copa beach.

Thanks! '

The following was posted on Hotforum today (thanks to BigTiger for the report). Another high end option in Rio?

"Fui conferir a reabertura the lendaria Termas Aeroporto. Escolhia a sexta (08 jun) pq sabia q o movimento estaria fraco. Cheguei as 17:30, a Mariana the recepcao ja me explicou tudo: R$ 40, 00 de entrada, cabines a R$ 240, 00 ou R$ 300, 00 (40 min e 1 hora, respectivamente). O gerent Tiago disse que so tinham 6 garotas na casa e que duas estariam chegando (gostei the sinceridade). No vestiario fui recebido pela Amelia, muito simpatica. Na boite, pedi uma agua e fui rapidamente abordado pela Paty: uma morena muito linda de rosto com as pernas bem torneadas e bem gostosa. Muito falante, simpatica e carinhosa. Me deu uns beijos de estalo, falou rapidamente de como ela gosta e elogiou outras garotas (pensei: as garotas aqui nao sao "olho grande"). Them pouco tempo se mostrou bem safadenha: alem de me beijar, acariciou meu peito, lambeu minha orelha e pegou no meu pau. Depois disse que ia me mostrar a sauna (eu ja sabia que ela nao poderia entrar, mas ache sutil e criativo jeito de passar a mensagem :"fique a vontade"). Fiz 15 min de sauna e quando voltei p boite, vi todas as gostosas (algumas eu ja tinha visto antes). Pedi um whisky e logo a Paty (Miss Simpatia) me chamou e me apresentou duas gostosas: Cleo, morena turbinada e gostosesima e Elisa loira balzaca muito gostosa e safada. Ficamos conversando um pouco ate eu ir embora. Ainda conheci a Cintia, morena lindissima com peitos enormes e Iasmin, loira muito alta e cavala.

Resumo: por ser uma sexta atipica, apenas 8 mulheres na casa, mas todas altissimo nivel: gostosas, inteligentes e simpaticas (a maioria eh acima the media). Entrada R$ 40, 00, programas a R$ 240, 00 (40 min) e R$ 300, 00 (1 hora). Abre as 11 e fecha as 23:00 hs".

Internet translation is as follows (of course it won't be exactly correct but will give you an overall idea of what the original says)

I was giving the reopening of legendary Termas airport. Chose the Friday (08 jun) pq know q would be weak movement. I got the 17:30, Mariana of EuroTeam ja me explained everything: $ 40. 00, $ 240. 00 cabins or $ 300. 00 (40 min and 1:0, respectively). The gerent Tiago said so had 6 girls in the House and that the two would be arriving (liked the sincerity). In the locker room I was received by Amelia, very sympathetic character. In the boite, ordered a water and I was quickly approached by Paty: a brunette very beautiful face with shapely legs and sexy as well. Very chatty, loving and sympathetic character. Gave Me kisses of POPs, spoke quickly as she likes and praised other girls (I thought the girls here are not "big eye"). Soon proved to be well safadenha: besides me, caressed my chest, kissing licked my ear and grabbed at my cock. After said he would show me the sauna (I already knew that she could not enter, but find subtle and creative way to get the message: "feel free"). Did 15 min of sauna and when I returned I saw all p boite yummy (some I already had seen before). I asked for a whiskey and soon the Paty (Miss congeniality) called me and introduced me to two hot chicks: Cleo, fueled and gostosesima and Elisa brunette blonde sexy and dirty balzaca much. We were talking a little until I go away. Still met the lovely brunette with Cintia, huge breasts and blonde too high and Iasmin, mackerel. Summary: for being a sixth atypical, only 8 women in the House, but all altissimo nivel: smart, sexy and simpaticas (most eh above the media). Entry $ 40. 00, programs to R $ 240. 00 (40 min) and R $ 300, 00 (1:0). Opens and closes the 23:00 11 hs

[QUOTE=Smatte; 1290862]Could a kind soul please shed some light on the beach scene in rip? Where is it? How do you find the girls? Do you go to their place or can you rent a room per the hour? Any views on quality?

Am going to Rio for 24 hours next week and will be staying on the Copa beach.

Thanks! '[/QUOTE]Man you will be in the middle of the main hangout for the favella hos of Rio. It is winter time so the beaches will be quiet. But at night th girls will hang around the beach cafes and the front of the hotels. They are obvious and they will approach you anyway because a single guy (gringo?) is fair game. But I would recommend you just go to the Balcony Bar which is on Avenue Atlantica and within walking distance of your hotel (most likely). If you are in a classy hotel they will not let you take the favella hos to your room. But the girl will take you to one of the pay by the hour hotels just a few streets back from the action on the Avenue. So just lay back an relax and let her earn her keep. She will know where to go. My advice. Stay with the crowds at night. Do not go into dark side streets late at night in the copa area. Take a taxi. Its safer.

[QUOTE=Torgoch; 1291075]The following was posted on Hotforum today (thanks to BigTiger for the report). Another high end option in Rio?

"Fui conferir a reabertura the lendaria Termas Aeroporto. Escolhia a sexta (08 jun) pq sabia q o movimento estaria fraco. Cheguei as 17:30, a Mariana the recepcao ja me explicou tudo: R$ 40, 00 de entrada, cabines a R$ 240, 00 ou R$ 300, 00 (40 min e 1 hora, respectivamente). O gerent Tiago disse que so tinham 6 garotas na casa e que duas estariam chegando (gostei the sinceridade). No vestiario fui recebido pela Amelia, muito simpatica. Na boite, pedi uma agua e fui rapidamente abordado pela Paty: uma morena muito linda de rosto com as pernas bem torneadas e bem gostosa. Muito falante, simpatica e carinhosa. Me deu uns beijos de estalo, falou rapidamente de como ela gosta e elogiou outras garotas (pensei: as garotas aqui nao sao "olho grande"). Them pouco tempo se mostrou bem safadenha: alem de me beijar, acariciou meu peito, lambeu minha orelha e pegou no meu pau. Depois disse que ia me mostrar a sauna (eu ja sabia que ela nao poderia entrar, mas ache sutil e criativo jeito de passar a mensagem :"fique a vontade"). Fiz 15 min de sauna e quando voltei p boite, vi todas as gostosas (algumas eu ja tinha visto antes). Pedi um whisky e logo a Paty (Miss Simpatia) me chamou e me apresentou duas gostosas: Cleo, morena turbinada e gostosesima e Elisa loira balzaca muito gostosa e safada. Ficamos conversando um pouco ate eu ir embora. Ainda conheci a Cintia, morena lindissima com peitos enormes e Iasmin, loira muito alta e cavala.

Resumo: por ser uma sexta atipica, apenas 8 mulheres na casa, mas todas altissimo nivel: gostosas, inteligentes e simpaticas (a maioria eh acima the media). Entrada R$ 40, 00, programas a R$ 240, 00 (40 min) e R$ 300, 00 (1 hora). Abre as 11 e fecha as 23:00 hs".

Internet translation is as follows (of course it won't be exactly correct but will give you an overall idea of what the original says)

I was giving the reopening of legendary Termas airport. Chose the Friday (08 jun) pq know q would be weak movement. I got the 17:30, Mariana of EuroTeam ja me explained everything: $ 40. 00, $ 240. 00 cabins or $ 300. 00 (40 min and 1:0, respectively). The gerent Tiago said so had 6 girls in the House and that the two would be arriving (liked the sincerity). In the locker room I was received by Amelia, very sympathetic character. In the boite, ordered a water and I was quickly approached by Paty: a brunette very beautiful face with shapely legs and sexy as well. Very chatty, loving and sympathetic character. Gave Me kisses of POPs, spoke quickly as she likes and praised other girls (I thought the girls here are not "big eye"). Soon proved to be well safadenha: besides me, caressed my chest, kissing licked my ear and grabbed at my cock. After said he would show me the sauna (I already knew that she could not enter, but find subtle and creative way to get the message: "feel free"). Did 15 min of sauna and when I returned I saw all p boite yummy (some I already had seen before). I asked for a whiskey and soon the Paty (Miss congeniality) called me and introduced me to two hot chicks: Cleo, fueled and gostosesima and Elisa brunette blonde sexy and dirty balzaca much. We were talking a little until I go away. Still met the lovely brunette with Cintia, huge breasts and blonde too high and Iasmin, mackerel. Summary: for being a sixth atypical, only 8 women in the House, but all altissimo nivel: smart, sexy and simpaticas (most eh above the media). Entry $ 40. 00, programs to R $ 240. 00 (40 min) and R $ 300, 00 (1:0). Opens and closes the 23:00 11 hs[/QUOTE]Too bad this place wasn't open up when I went to Rio a few months ago, I use to always like going to this place they always would have some nice sweet looking girls working there.

Kid Cisco

When arriving in GIG, I decided to experiment and take the Real Bus (Blue greyhound type bus) Ipanema. As soon as you walk out of arrivals terminal 1 or 2, just take a right, and go all the way down. Its not far. You will see a relatively short line of people. I asked for price, was told 12R by the guy in light blue outfit and wearing a tie. I tell him the destination, you points to the next stop with a line of 12 people ahead of me. Ok, I head on over with a couple of large bags and my carry on. It's about a 15-20 minute wait for the bus to show up. Its called the "Yellow line" bus route. However, all of their buses are blue, so don't be on the look out for a yellow bus. The only yellow buses, or the smaller shuttle buses.

It took me about 45 minutes to get to my stop. I simply told the bus driver to stop at Plaza General Osorio. They have designated stops which you will see on the map inside the bus. However, he had some sympathy because of the rain and dropped me off P. General Os. You pay the 12r ($6 dollars) as you enter the bus. As they place your bags under the bus storage area, they will place a sticker on each bag with a serial number and give you the matching set of numbers as well. This way, as the stops occur, they will only allow you to take the bag that matches the numbers in your hand.

It was actually very organized. I sat on the right side of the bus where I could still see the bags taken out in each stop just to be on the safe side. Over all, not bad. I saved quite a few bucks compared to taking one of those taxi's from the booths as you walk out of baggage area. That has to be close to the 90R or so price since I was last in Rio.

Honestly, if your are traveling with a buddy, would be worth taking a taxi in the departure area for 50r (offer it to a taxi driver who just dropped offf someone and has to head back anyway) and split the cost with your buddy. Saves a lot of time. I don't mind the bus, but after a long over night flight and dealing with immigration and baggage pick up, most people are beat and spent, so they just want to get to their place quickly and crash.

I did it for the experience, and also becuase on a Saturday there is less traffic on the streets, so its a bit quicker. But even then, it took between 45-60 minutes plus the 20 minutes waiting outside the terminal. You do the math and see if its worth it to you. BTW, the bus had AC and was very comfortable. Thanks to another member of the forum, I gave this a try. Now I just have to figure how to get from my apartment to GIG! I forgot to ask, I was half brain dead after that long overnight flight. Hope this helps someone.

[QUOTE=SirStephen;1291122]Man you will be in the middle of the main hangout for the favella hos of Rio. It is winter time so the beaches will be quiet. But at night th girls will hang around the beach cafes and the front of the hotels. They are obvious and they will approach you anyway because a single guy (gringo?) is fair game. But I would recommend you just go to the Balcony Bar which is on Avenue Atlantica and within walking distance of your hotel (most likely). If you are in a classy hotel they will not let you take the favella hos to your room. But the girl will take you to one of the pay by the hour hotels just a few streets back from the action on the Avenue. So just lay back an relax and let her earn her keep. She will know where to go. My advice. Stay with the crowds at night. Do not go into dark side streets late at night in the copa area. Take a taxi. Its safer.[/QUOTE]Good advice BUT also he shouldn't LEAVE his drink alone with her! Or even think about trying to get high or smoke any weed with one of the hood chicks! (I don't do drugs and NEVER have or will I don't even really drink) as a matter of fact keep your head together and don't get high or drunk! Balcony Bar is so hit and miss when I was there a few months ago I just seen about 3 chicks that was worth doing. The rest was a mess to the point I left and took my food back to my hotel. I would say for a sure bet just go to the Termas and have one of those chicks come back to your place this way you really shouldn't have to worry about getting some drug out space out hood rat giving you issues back in your room IF the smell that you are weak or a newbie they will try to clown and run some type of game on you) or getting your ass robbed or mugged.

Kid Cisco

[QUOTE=Exec Talent; 1290482]I know English is not the first language for many on this forum, so I am reaching out in hopes that someone might be able to offer a translation.

Thanks![/QUOTE]I don't think anyone understands his posts.

I concur Bubba Boy!

[QUOTE=Mangera;1291263]Now I just have to figure how to get from my apartment to GIG! I forgot to ask, I was half brain dead after that long overnight flight. Hope this helps someone.[/QUOTE]They pickup near the Hotels. States every 20min on their website. Line 2018 is the one that runs to zona sul:

[url]http://www.realautoonibus.com.br/Site/NossasLinhas-Premium-00,undefined,REAL82207120120609174004-91.Html[/url]

Left clicking the name of the bus run tells you where it stops. When the fare was $R8, I'd take the bus to Santos Dumont and grab a cab to Copa. When the fare increased, I grabbed a cab on Atlantica. On my return to GIG, I always took a cab, as I didn't want to risk missing my flight. That also allowed me to spend a little more time on the ground vs time spent waiting, going to GIG by bus.

[QUOTE=Bubba Boy;1291279]I don't think anyone understands his posts.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Mangera;1291305]I concur Bubba Boy![/QUOTE]Me 3

If I only had 24 hours, I suggest taking a cab to Motel VIP, Niemeyer Avenue. 418 | Leblon | RJ.

[url]http://www.vipsmotel.com.br/[/url]

And get the top freelancer from the local brazilian boards. Personally, I recommend Roberta Salles.

9190-4827.

[url]http://www.hotforum.com.br/forum_posts.asp?TID=16613&PN=20[/url]

[url]http://roberta.sexy.nafoto.net[/url]

She usually works out in tijuca so she might not make it to Leblon.

Or get two girls from Scortshow.

[url]http://www.scortshow.net/principal_pt.php[/url]

Make your own Buttman movie.

[QUOTE=Smatte; 1290862]Could a kind soul please shed some light on the beach scene in rip? Where is it? How do you find the girls? Do you go to their place or can you rent a room per the hour? Any views on quality?

Am going to Rio for 24 hours next week and will be staying on the Copa beach.

Thanks! '[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=PatmarBeleza1; 1291325]If I only had 24 hours, I suggest taking a cab to Motel VIP, Niemeyer Avenue. 418 | Leblon | RJ.

[url]http://www.vipsmotel.com.br/[/url]

And get the top freelancer from the local brazilian boards. Personally, I recommend Roberta Salles.

9190-4827.

[url]http://www.hotforum.com.br/forum_posts.asp?TID=16613&PN=20[/url]

[url]http://roberta.sexy.nafoto.net[/url]

She usually works out in tijuca so she might not make it to Leblon.

Or get two girls from Scortshow.

[url]http://www.scortshow.net/principal_pt.php[/url]

Make your own Buttman movie.[/QUOTE]Thanks for all the great advice. This is a really friendly place! I'm staying at the Copacabana Palace so I guess I can forget about taking anyone to the room? Kind of means termas for me then I guess (sounds a bit like German fkk's?) , since I'm not up for trying to find a cheap motel at night.

Given my short stay, are there any alternatives to the beach (wrong season Doh) for places to pick up women during the day? (say 11am to 3pm?) also, are the termas alright from 3pm when they seem to open? Does anyone open earlier? And lastly which one is regarded as having the best girls? Given I'll only go once most likely I don't really care about price. And I'm more of a boob man and prefer slim girls than giant bundas.

[QUOTE=Mangera; 1291263]I saved quite a few bucks compared to taking one of those taxi's from the booths as you walk out of baggage area. That has to be close to the 90R or so price since I was last in Rio.

Honestly, if your are traveling with a buddy, would be worth taking a taxi in the departure area for 50r (offer it to a taxi driver who just dropped offf someone and has to head back anyway) and split the cost with your buddy. Saves a lot of time[/QUOTE]Man I don't know how you did it with that number of bags. I'd have gone crazy! I've done the bus before and never had a problem. I just hate the amount of time it took after a couple of 10-12 hour flights, or worrying if I would make it to the airport on time for the departure flight.

The taxis on the Arrivals floor are too expensive! I go up to the Departures floor (2nd) and take a cab that just dropped someone off. Usually 50$R. 60$R (during peak hours).

[QUOTE=Torgoch; 1291075]The following was posted on Hotforum today (thanks to BigTiger for the report). Another high end option in Rio?

"Fui conferir a reabertura the lendaria Termas Aeroporto. Escolhia a sexta (08 jun) pq sabia q o movimento estaria fraco. Cheguei as 17:30, a Mariana the recepcao ja me explicou tudo: R$ 40, 00 de entrada, cabines a R$ 240, 00 ou R$ 300, 00 (40 min e 1 hora, respectivamente). O gerent Tiago disse que so tinham 6 garotas na casa e que duas estariam chegando (gostei the sinceridade). No vestiario fui recebido pela Amelia, muito simpatica. Na boite, pedi uma agua e fui rapidamente abordado pela Paty: uma morena muito linda de rosto com as pernas bem torneadas e bem gostosa. Muito falante, simpatica e carinhosa. Me deu uns beijos de estalo, falou rapidamente de como ela gosta e elogiou outras garotas (pensei: as garotas aqui nao sao "olho grande"). Them pouco tempo se mostrou bem safadenha: alem de me beijar, acariciou meu peito, lambeu minha orelha e pegou no meu pau. Depois disse que ia me mostrar a sauna (eu ja sabia que ela nao poderia entrar, mas ache sutil e criativo jeito de passar a mensagem :"fique a vontade"). Fiz 15 min de sauna e quando voltei p boite, vi todas as gostosas (algumas eu ja tinha visto antes). Pedi um whisky e logo a Paty (Miss Simpatia) me chamou e me apresentou duas gostosas: Cleo, morena turbinada e gostosesima e Elisa loira balzaca muito gostosa e safada. Ficamos conversando um pouco ate eu ir embora. Ainda conheci a Cintia, morena lindissima com peitos enormes e Iasmin, loira muito alta e cavala.

Resumo: por ser uma sexta atipica, apenas 8 mulheres na casa, mas todas altissimo nivel: gostosas, inteligentes e simpaticas (a maioria eh acima the media). Entrada R$ 40, 00, programas a R$ 240, 00 (40 min) e R$ 300, 00 (1 hora). Abre as 11 e fecha as 23:00 hs".

Internet translation is as follows (of course it won't be exactly correct but will give you an overall idea of what the original says)

I was giving the reopening of legendary Termas airport. Chose the Friday (08 jun) pq know q would be weak movement. I got the 17:30, Mariana of EuroTeam ja me explained everything: $ 40. 00, $ 240. 00 cabins or $ 300. 00 (40 min and 1:0, respectively). The gerent Tiago said so had 6 girls in the House and that the two would be arriving (liked the sincerity). In the locker room I was received by Amelia, very sympathetic character. In the boite, ordered a water and I was quickly approached by Paty: a brunette very beautiful face with shapely legs and sexy as well. Very chatty, loving and sympathetic character. Gave Me kisses of POPs, spoke quickly as she likes and praised other girls (I thought the girls here are not "big eye"). Soon proved to be well safadenha: besides me, caressed my chest, kissing licked my ear and grabbed at my cock. After said he would show me the sauna (I already knew that she could not enter, but find subtle and creative way to get the message: "feel free"). Did 15 min of sauna and when I returned I saw all p boite yummy (some I already had seen before). I asked for a whiskey and soon the Paty (Miss congeniality) called me and introduced me to two hot chicks: Cleo, fueled and gostosesima and Elisa brunette blonde sexy and dirty balzaca much. We were talking a little until I go away. Still met the lovely brunette with Cintia, huge breasts and blonde too high and Iasmin, mackerel. Summary: for being a sixth atypical, only 8 women in the House, but all altissimo nivel: smart, sexy and simpaticas (most eh above the media). Entry $ 40. 00, programs to R $ 240. 00 (40 min) and R $ 300, 00 (1:0). Opens and closes the 23:00 11 hs[/QUOTE]Thanks Torgoch. I just went and read that thread but couldn't see an address. Anyone know what it is? The opening hours are a bit weird (something like 11am-10pm or 11pm). But I should put it on my list to check out when in Centro.

[QUOTE=Eric Cartman;1291558]Thanks Torgoch. I just went and read that thread but couldn't see an address. Anyone know what it is? The opening hours are a bit weird (something like 11am-10pm or 11pm). But I should put it on my list to check out when in Centro.[/QUOTE]Avenida Beira Mar. 216. Centro, Rio de Janeiro. RJ. 20021-060, Brazil.

I'm in Rio in 2 weeks time so maybe I'll go along and check it out. Although it sounds a bit short on talent.

This article reports that there are 24% more women than men in Rio. If you are not able to find a non-pro there, buy a plane ticket to São Paulo and go to the gay parade!

[url]http://br.noticias.yahoo.com/rio-cidade-maravilhosa-homens-solteiros-212323184.html[/url]

[QUOTE=Sui Generis; 1291565]This article reports that there are 24% more women than men in Rio. If you are not able to find a non-pro there, buy a plane ticket to São Paulo and go to the gay parade!

[url]http://br.noticias.yahoo.com/rio-cidade-maravilhosa-homens-solteiros-212323184.html[/url][/QUOTE]LOL LOL I agree this is what I been talking about there are soooo many single chicks of ALL ages and sizes that most normal guy living there don't seem to have a problem finding to date and getting married to or going out with at least the guys that I know that live there don't. Hell I was there for 3 weeks and didn't have a problem I did Termas by day and had dates with mostly non-pros at night after they got off from work.

Kid Cisco

[QUOTE=Smatte; 1291448]I'm staying at the Copacabana Palace so I guess I can forget about taking anyone to the room? Kind of means termas for me then I guess (sounds a bit like German fkk's?)

Given my short stay, are there any alternatives to the beach (wrong season Doh) for places to pick up women during the day? (say 11am to 3pm?) also, are the termas alright from 3pm when they seem to open? Does anyone open earlier? And lastly which one is regarded as having the best girls? And I'm more of a boob man and prefer slim girls than giant bundas.[/QUOTE]Copa Palace is like the premier Hotel in Rio. A list celebs stay there. No way you're getting a Working gal in there.

Best place to pickup women in Rio? Everywhere and anywhere, if you speak Portuguese.

Are termas like a FKK? Yeah, differences: the women in the termas are not naked in the bar areas, few will speak English, and the termas are not as grandiose as a FKK.

Best Centro termas: 4x4, over 100 women there, if you can't find one you like, something wrong with YOU. LOL FYI, the Centro termas are closed on Sunday.

Best Copa termas: depends on month and YOU.

If you get to any termas at 3p, you're too early. 4:30p might be better.

Regarding your last sentence,"And I'm more of a boob man and prefer slim girls than giant bundas." Have an open mind man, this is the land of ASS! It's not like the ass back home, (wherever you're from,) Brazilian ass for the most part is toned, cellulite free, shapely, apple, heart shaped. You'll see. Before I started visiting Rio, I hardly looked at a woman's ass. Like you, I was conditioned a boob man. Now, a woman's ass is first thing I check out. Enjoy your stay.

[QUOTE=Java Man;1291635]FYI, the Centro termas are closed on Sunday. Before I started visiting Rio, I hardly looked at a woman's ass. Like you, I was conditioned a boob man. Now, a woman's ass is first thing I check out. Enjoy your stay.[/QUOTE]Centro termas are also closed on Saturday.

After a visit to bundaland. You'll be checking out the booty before the boobies on a woman! Have fun!

[QUOTE=Torgoch; 1291640]Centro termas are also closed on Saturday.

After a visit to bundaland. You'll be checking out the booty before the boobies on a woman! Have fun![/QUOTE]Oops forgot that. Thanks for mentioning it. Yeah, I do that now, never before my visit to Bundaland. Sadly, very few Brazil type asses in Midwest US.

[QUOTE=Java Man; 1291635]Copa Palace is like the premier Hotel in Rio. A list celebs stay there. No way you're getting a Working gal in there.

[QUOTE]I have GDP friends who go there all the time. Never a problem. It does make it easier if she is not dressed like on the street Julia Roberts in Pretty Woman and if she walks in with you. Just put her on your arm and act like you own the place. Again, never an issue.

[QUOTE=Smatte; 1291448]Thanks for all the great advice. This is a really friendly place! I'm staying at the Copacabana Palace so I guess I can forget about taking anyone to the room? Kind of means termas for me then I guess (sounds a bit like German fkk's?) , since I'm not up for trying to find a cheap motel at night.

Given my short stay, are there any alternatives to the beach (wrong season Doh) for places to pick up women during the day? (say 11am to 3pm?) also, are the termas alright from 3pm when they seem to open? Does anyone open earlier? And lastly which one is regarded as having the best girls? Given I'll only go once most likely I don't really care about price. And I'm more of a boob man and prefer slim girls than giant bundas.[/QUOTE]It's not so much that it's the wrong season for the beach but that the action on the beach is pretty much over no matter what season.

If I only had a short stay in Rio and didn't care about price but preferred slim/boobs and was looking for something early I would look for an independent escort, if she is really low key and classy she may be able to walk right into the lobby of the Copa and to your room, don't know about the security there but if not she will call you from the lobby and take you to a close motel for a couple of hours.

Try these sites:

[url]http://www.barravipsrio.com/[/url]

[url]http://www.hotside.com.br/acompanhantes-garotas-de-programa-rio-de-janeiro-rj.html[/url]

[QUOTE=Sangue Bon; 1291697]It's not so much that it's the wrong season for the beach but that the action on the beach is pretty much over no matter what season.

If I only had a short stay in Rio and didn't care about price but preferred slim / boobs and was looking for something early I would look for an independent escort, if she is really low key and classy she may be able to walk right into the lobby of the Copa and to your room, don't know about the security there but if not she will call you from the lobby and take you to a close motel for a couple of hours.

Try these sites:

[url]http://www.barravipsrio.com/[/url]

[url]http://www.hotside.com.br/acompanhantes-garotas-de-programa-rio-de-janeiro-rj.html[/url][/QUOTE]If the escort knows your staying at the Copa she will dress appropriately. The best thing to do is ask her to meet you at the bar for a drink and act like your on a date. Your actions are being watched and noted to the professionalism of your GDP. Any flash or sign of Flavela and she will not be allowed within 20 feet of the elevators by security. Mulattas dont stand a chance. All I ever got up while visiting from Sao-P were Blonde Business Assistant types.

It was not until years letter that i found the Termas were all I needed and better literal bang for you buck. 4x4 having all I like and enjoy. On exit I spent an entire day in MC, 4x4 and Centurians. Leaving completely satisfied. Awwww! To be a young grad school graduate on his first foreign job again. Naivety of Rio allowed for my advancement. Otherwise I would have been an associate till this date.

[QUOTE=Torgoch; 1291564]Avenida Beira Mar. 216. Centro, Rio de Janeiro. RJ. 20021-060, Brazil.

I'm in Rio in 2 weeks time so maybe I'll go along and check it out. Although it sounds a bit short on talent.[/QUOTE]I heard that Termas Aeroporto closed down and (possibly) reopened as a gay termas. By all means, please do some commando reporting.

The front desk of a high quality hotel will ask for the identification of your escort. Your escort may not like this.

In December 2008, I had a 'scort in a apartment. Samara Fernandes. Apartment on Bulhoes Carvalho in Ipanema a block from Centaurus. 2 hours. 5 anals, came in her mouth twice, great service. Exchange rate was over 2BRL to the USD. Market was in the tank, so you'd get better bang for the buck.

Then, January 2009, I was in a Centro hotel, nice place, found on the 'net. Had Samara over again, but the hotel asked her for her I'd. She didn't like that, and the service was much worse.

She's still on the top tier Rio sites, with a different name.

[url]http://www.riosexsite.net/acompanhante/Karina[/url]

350R for 1 Hour now. 550R for 2H.

In 2008, it was 250R for 2H. BRL is back over 2 to the dollar, but the nicest bund has gone the way of all Brazilian commodities, right up with the Big Mac index.

[QUOTE=Alex Deuce; 1291744]If the escort knows your staying at the Copa she will dress appropriately. The best thing to do is ask her to meet you at the bar for a drink and act like your on a date. Your actions are being watched and noted to the professionalism of your GDP. Any flash or sign of Flavela and she will not be allowed within 20 feet of the elevators by security. Mulattas don't stand a chance. All I ever got up while visiting from Sao-P were Blonde Business Assistant types.

It was not until years letter that I found the Termas were all I needed and better literal bang for you buck. 4x4 having all I like and enjoy. On exit I spent an entire day in MC. 4x4 and Centurians. Leaving completely satisfied. [url]Awwww[/url]! To be a young grad school graduate on his first foreign job again. Naivety of Rio allowed for my advancement. Otherwise I would have been an associate till this date.[/QUOTE]

Went to L'Uomo on Sunday night. For the record I haven't been there in probably 5-6 months, as far as I can remember.

They've changed pricing again. The new price list makes a big deal about not paying the R$80 entrada if you pay in cash (not credit / debit). However the prices, even without entrada, are still quite high: R$440 for 1 hour, R$320 (maybe R$300) for 40 mins. Plus drinks etc. On top of that amount.

Selection was about 25 girls by 7pm on Sunday night. Again, don't get there before 7pm if you want a decent turn-out on a Sunday (or probably Saturday). I showed up at 5pm and it was slow. The majority are not particularly hot girls by my standard. Fit, thin / in-shape, pretty faces. I'd say 65% big-bunda / fatter girls. Brazil style. And a lot who just frankly looked like hard-core working girls. One girl is like covered in tattoos, she's hot but in a working girl way. I would not say the talent was above the level of 4x4 or even 502 on a good night. For those prices I expect higher quality talent. I'd say at least 50% of the girls were new, but they weren't stunners.

Still the same old smoking-in-the-bathroom habits, which I find distasteful. The manager ran into me in the back room (with the TVs) and saw me using my phone to check my email, and told me I couldn't use my phone there (for "security reasons"). Wasn't clear if she meant just that area, or the whole place. Nobody in MC or T65 has ever talked to me about using my phone in the boate.

Apparently the girls are now getting 2 days off per week, whereas they used to get 1. So that could help if you are trying to arrange to see a girl outside of the place.

-Cartman

[QUOTE=Eric Cartman; 1292090]Went to L'Uomo on Sunday night. For the record I haven't been there in probably 5-6 months, as far as I can remember.

They've changed pricing again. The new price list makes a big deal about not paying the R$80 entrada if you pay in cash (not credit / debit). However the prices, even without entrada, are still quite high: R$440 for 1 hour, R$320 (maybe R$300) for 40 mins. Plus drinks etc. On top of that amount.

Selection was about 25 girls by 7pm on Sunday night. Again, don't get there before 7pm if you want a decent turn-out on a Sunday (or probably Saturday). I showed up at 5pm and it was slow. The majority are not particularly hot girls by my standard. Fit, thin / in-shape, pretty faces. I'd say 65% big-bunda / fatter girls. Brazil style. And a lot who just frankly looked like hard-core working girls. One girl is like covered in tattoos, she's hot but in a working girl way. I would not say the talent was above the level of 4x4 or even 502 on a good night. For those prices I expect higher quality talent. I'd say at least 50% of the girls were new, but they weren't stunners.

Still the same old smoking-in-the-bathroom habits, which I find distasteful. The manager ran into me in the back room (with the TVs) and saw me using my phone to check my email, and told me I couldn't use my phone there (for "security reasons"). Wasn't clear if she meant just that area, or the whole place. Nobody in MC or T65 has ever talked to me about using my phone in the boate.

Apparently the girls are now getting 2 days off per week, whereas they used to get 1. So that could help if you are trying to arrange to see a girl outside of the place.

-Cartman[/QUOTE]It could had something to do with guys using their cell phones to record videos of inside the place and of the girls walking around and then posting them online (many of the girls shy away or cover or turn their face to the side when they see a monger pulling out a cellphone.) I saw one guy inside the bar area pull out his phone and was trying to hand it to one of the girls for her to punch in her phone number. Some of her friends GOT up and scream for him to put it away and told him how much trouble they could get into. And one of the girls even got in front of the girl he was trying to give his phone to.

Of course once when you get in the room all bets are off I was able to take pictures and get phone numbers etc.

Kid Cisco

[QUOTE=ChrisDrug;1290294]It's creditable to do your research in advance. I was paying concentration to fare on a daily basis for my upcoming Rio Aug 2012 trip, since last month flight to Rio cost me $1400. AA. Com has a promotion until June 7th for Rio nonstop rt from US under $1000. I couldn't resist and bought a US to Rio rt trip non stop for $943 which is the finest fare within the last 2 years. I'm preparing to conclude the unfinished business from the May 2012 trip. I ordered a drink by one of those beach vendors 2 days before my return trip back to US, and I got awfully sick. I couldn't eat or drink anything for two days properly on the last 2 days in Rio, and finally got recovered as I got back to US. I believe it has something to do with dreadful hygiene upshot or bacteria outcome etc. Despite all the efforts, the total trip cost me $4700 for 10 days, including air fare, apt, Termas, agencias etc with 14 garotas. However, the ticket and apartment cost me US $2k. I really deem that budget banging could be accomplished in Rio, as long as the airfare and apt cost is low. Thus, I'm strictly planning to keep my entire 11 day trip in Aug 2012 under net US $4k.[/QUOTE]I got a roundtrip ticket from JFK to GIG for $823. Sept. 17, 2012. Can't beat that.

I went to MC tonight, which was Dia dos Namorados (Valentine's Day). I arrived at around 7 pm and there seemed to be about 25 girls working. Between 7 pm and 10 pm, there was consistently a ratio of 20+ girls to 4 guys, so pretty favorable numbers for selection purposes. The selection tonight was ok. I think I saw maybe 4 girls that I would rate 8. 5 or above and would session with.

I ended up sessioning with the first girl I talked to. She was a petite 20 year old morena and pretty cool. The session was good, but I doubt I will repeat. I'm actually writing this report to point out a couple of things:

1) Today I had a free entrada (worth R$80) based on my past spending and I also brought the Tuesday R$80 discount off the cabine for a 40-minute session. I went here thinking I could get a double discount to reduce the total cost to R$200 plus drinks. They told me up front that I could only use my free entrada. What a pity!

2) I asked the girl working there about the new dress code, which consists of tight dresses similar to what they were doing at 4x4. She said it was only temporary and they will revert back to bikinis next month. Apparently, with the [B]Rio+20[/B] Holiday coming up, many government officials will be visiting Monte Carlo so they have to put up a "respectable" front by wearing classy evening wear. Ha. That's a laugh considering it's still a putaria.

So I ended up paying R$280 (R$200 for the girl and R$80 for the room) + drinks. As I was leaving, I had a chat with the cool manager dude and he confirmed what the garota in the boite said about the temporary dress code.

Apologies for the delay this info maybe dated but I got slammed with work in Sao Paulo last week.

Friday.

After I get situated in my apartment I make a few calls to some terma girls to let them know I'm in town. I find out later this was a mistake bc the ho hotline has been alerted. After I had an afternoon rendez-vous with a regular Monte Carlo that was on vacation from college and terma, I decided to go see what the new talent was like at Monte Carlo. Walked down Ave Atlantica and greeted by really cool receptionist Bruna and one of the mangers Ivan. She asks me if I remember pricing and tells me I have free entrada based on previous visit in February. Just to reiterate what Cartman reported basically you have to spend R$700 before you get free. I don't really care about the rates all I want to do is get my rocks off as I'm on vacation. Anyway I robe up and head upstairs to the boate and immediately I am swarmed by some of the girls that I am familiar with Hannah, Yasmine, Raica to name a few. After a half hour of catching up and shooting the breeze I scout the new talent. As I am about to make up my mind an old favorite Janainha, a big booty Brazilian with new boob job tells me that if I go with anyone other than her she will lose face and would be upset with me. I am like are you kidding me and you are going to go upstairs with some other guy in 5 minutes. In my head I am like get the eff out of here the nerve of this chick besides no one is going to ruin this trip LOL.

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I notice a stunner Naomi a new black chick that I had not seen before but she is not feeling well. So finally I decide on Renata, really nice, pretty, tall mulatta with long megahair that I passed on in February. She remembers me and was like you kept your promise. Great sign! Renata has small breasts but nice Brazilian butt, pretty face, feminine body and really knows how to go at it in the cabine, I would rate the performance and enthusiasm a 9+. I would definitely repeat and she gave me her number but we failed to hook up outside the terma and I didn't get any photos.

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Saturday.

After apartment aerobics with Agatha a terma MC girl that usually is seen wearing a tiara, I went back to MC around 9pm and bumped into the tallest girl in the house, Beatriz. I have always passed on her because she's always sitting in the corridor by the staircase looking unassuming but this time I felt her energy. In heels she is about 6'3' my height so once eye contact was made it was on. Beatriz doesn't have the prettiest face but is by no means ugly. The body is worth the price of admission, nice really firm breasts and of course Brazilian ass! She is a taller-bigger version of Renata. This girl was a 10 in performance and enthusiasm, she offered up completa but I declined anal (not my style). I would definitely repeat in the terma, but I also tried my luck and got her number but again I was not able to get with her during the week and did not get any photos.

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Sunday.

Head to Luomo since it is really the only option on Sunday and the place was packed. There were a lot of gringos that night bc of the holiday weekend I guess. Anyway the place is small yet cozy. The treatment is outstanding the manager is a female probably in her late 30 or early 40s. She checked on me several times and made sure some of the girls came around. I decided on a tall mature looking mulatta with blonde hair called Luana, reminds me of Mayara at 4x4 but without the silicon. She did not disappoint! Session was fantastic left satisfied and wanting to package that program to go back to the States LOL. She told me she wanted to see me again and if I had my phone she would do an out call. She explained that cell phones were not permitted to do not let anyone see the phone. I headed back to the boate again to chill before I left. Again don't remember the final bill but was not a shocker and in line with my expectations.

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After Luomo I decide to check out Balcony just for fun with no intention of doing anything to jeopardize my streak of 9+ sessions thus far. I run into another fellow monger and we make plans to hit up centro massage places and the mecca 4x4 on Monday.

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Monday.

To keep this short went to a couple office buildings to scout massage places. I really wasn't too impressed and on top of that we arrived at lunch hour which is apparently a really busy time. We headed to 4x4 and spent the day there (2:30 – 8:00). I did two sessions the first with Lavinia (nuff said) and another with Ellen really hot morena from Fortaleza who is in SHAPE! I'the rate both of those as 10s! Definitely the highlight of the trip and this is after Lavinia. I have never seen so much condensation on the cabine mirrors. I also lost my virginity to her cu she was begging for it and I couldn't say no. I get her number and we met later in the week in my apartment. All in all 4x4 is the best value for your money when it comes to Tier 1 termas. For approximately R$600 you can have 2 girls in contrast to Luomo or MC R$450. 500 for 1 girl. There are many girls to choose from and the bodies are so much tighter than the other Copa termas. Sometimes I wonder how some girls got hired at MC. At least there is a standard in terms of shape in 4x4.

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Tuesday.

My plan is to use this day to chill and recoup my energy as I'll need it bc Ellen from 4x4 is coming over later. Meet up the new monger friends that I've made and we recount our sessions and trade notes on champs and duds LOL.

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Ellen arrives around 1am and meets me at Big Nectar after her shift at 4x4 for some acai then off to my place and she showers up. We go at for a couple hours, fall asleep and the I wake up around 8am with morning wood and wake up with a surprise insertion. The cooperation with this girl is incredible! I give her R$200 and some Victoria secret items for points.

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Wednesday.

Another budget day with ups and downs. Got with new monger mate and went to centro. We decided to just admire the non pro girls in the city but happened to make it to Terma 502. Big mistake after an hour and a half nothing remotely fuckable showed up but no harm no foul only cost us R$20 for entrada which included beverages. I had promised my Terma MC friend to go see Avengers and of course I not so subtly let her know I'm horny. She is reliable, never late, always considerate about how much things cost, takes me around Rio and keeps telling me she likes me even though I'm a safado. Damn shame she is a pro because she is in university and saving and out of all the other terma girls I know is not as materialistic. Anyway I am not conflicted or trying to play captain save a ho or mislead anyone so I give R$200 so as not to complicate things.

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Later went to MC and picked a dud Isabella she was wearing a Tropa De Elite lingerie outfit. From the outside this morena looks incredible, pretty in an Italian model sort of way, big Brazilian ass and unusually big natural titties. Unfortunately she does not cooperate and will not let you make the flesh smacking noise when doing the do. I was so pissed because I usually to get 2 orgasms in but this time only cummed once because she was not aggressive. I should have sought out Naomi. Oh well at least entrance was free.

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Thursday.

So this is my last full day in Rio before I'm off to Sao Paulo for the upcoming work week. I manage to get one of my MC faves Raica (a negra) to pay me a visit we don't discuss price or program as we have history. She knows I come bearing gifts and we'll kick back a few beers and mess around. She arrives later than expected because of Rio traffic. She basically gives me the business because I have seen all these girls and left her for last. She is joking of course but never can tell sometimes. The session was freaking hot and worth it (R$200) it was just too bad she was pressed for time and had to go to work.

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Met up later with Agatha again later that night after her shift and got my last taste of Rio until my next trip to Brazil which will probably be in November / December or sometime next year so have to start saving as I estimate will cost approx $4, 000 to have a good time again if exchange rate stays close to R$1. 90.

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7 days apartment = US$600.

GDP and entertainment budget = US$2, 000.

Flight = US$1, 300.

Pics to follow shortly

Arrived in Rio at 9pm. Was at Centaurus before 11. Why Centaurus? Figured I'd play it safe and they seem to have a good selection of hot girls. I was not disappointed!

Had a few great and really fun chats with girls. Most spoke very good English which is a big plus for me. Settled with a really hot blonde, big fake boobs, loads of tattooes and really cute face. Her name is Sol and she said she was 28yo. A 9 looks wise, and I agreed that completo was on the menu and that I could save some memories (pictures) from the session. No problems.

The session consisted of sloppy blowjob (BBBJ on offer but declined) some deep throating, reverse cow girl, missionary, anal doggy and a cumming on her tits.

Now this may sound quite standard to you but I'll upload a picture the next few days and you'll see why it was extraordinary!

Thanks for all the tips. May try l'uomo before flying back this evening.

Figured out photo upload from iPhone. Enjoy sol at centaurus.

[QUOTE=Safado69; 1292665]Apologies for the delay this info maybe dated but I got slammed with work in Sao Paulo last week.

Friday.

After I get situated in my apartment I make a few calls to some terma girls to let them know I'm in town. I find out later this was a mistake bc the ho hotline has been alerted. After I had an afternoon rendez-vous with a regular Monte Carlo that was on vacation from college and terma, I decided to go see what the new talent was like at Monte Carlo. Walked down Ave Atlantica and greeted by really cool receptionist Bruna and one of the mangers Ivan. She asks me if I remember pricing and tells me I have free entrada based on previous visit in February. Just to reiterate what Cartman reported basically you have to spend R$700 before you get free. I don't really care about the rates all I want to do is get my rocks off as I'm on vacation. Anyway I robe up and head upstairs to the boate and immediately I am swarmed by some of the girls that I am familiar with Hannah, Yasmine, Raica to name a few. After a half hour of catching up and shooting the breeze I scout the new talent. As I am about to make up my mind an old favorite Janainha, a big booty Brazilian with new boob job tells me that if I go with anyone other than her she will lose face and would be upset with me. I am like are you kidding me and you are going to go upstairs with some other guy in 5 minutes. In my head I am like get the eff out of here the nerve of this chick besides no one is going to ruin this trip LOL.

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I notice a stunner Naomi a new black chick that I had not seen before but she is not feeling well. So finally I decide on Renata, really nice, pretty, tall mulatta with long megahair that I passed on in February. She remembers me and was like you kept your promise. Great sign! Renata has small breasts but nice Brazilian butt, pretty face, feminine body and really knows how to go at it in the cabine, I would rate the performance and enthusiasm a 9+. I would definitely repeat and she gave me her number but we failed to hook up outside the terma and I didn't get any photos.

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Saturday.

After apartment aerobics with Agatha a terma MC girl that usually is seen wearing a tiara, I went back to MC around 9pm and bumped into the tallest girl in the house, Beatriz. I have always passed on her because she's always sitting in the corridor by the staircase looking unassuming but this time I felt her energy. In heels she is about 6'3' my height so once eye contact was made it was on. Beatriz doesn't have the prettiest face but is by no means ugly. The body is worth the price of admission, nice really firm breasts and of course Brazilian ass! She is a taller-bigger version of Renata. This girl was a 10 in performance and enthusiasm, she offered up completa but I declined anal (not my style). I would definitely repeat in the terma, but I also tried my luck and got her number but again I was not able to get with her during the week and did not get any photos.

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Sunday.

Head to Luomo since it is really the only option on Sunday and the place was packed. There were a lot of gringos that night bc of the holiday weekend I guess. Anyway the place is small yet cozy. The treatment is outstanding the manager is a female probably in her late 30 or early 40s. She checked on me several times and made sure some of the girls came around. I decided on a tall mature looking mulatta with blonde hair called Luana, reminds me of Mayara at 4x4 but without the silicon. She did not disappoint! Session was fantastic left satisfied and wanting to package that program to go back to the States LOL. She told me she wanted to see me again and if I had my phone she would do an out call. She explained that cell phones were not permitted to do not let anyone see the phone. I headed back to the boate again to chill before I left. Again don't remember the final bill but was not a shocker and in line with my expectations.

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After Luomo I decide to check out Balcony just for fun with no intention of doing anything to jeopardize my streak of 9+ sessions thus far. I run into another fellow monger and we make plans to hit up centro massage places and the mecca 4x4 on Monday.

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Monday.

To keep this short went to a couple office buildings to scout massage places. I really wasn't too impressed and on top of that we arrived at lunch hour which is apparently a really busy time. We headed to 4x4 and spent the day there (2:30 – 8:00). I did two sessions the first with Lavinia (nuff said) and another with Ellen really hot morena from Fortaleza who is in SHAPE! I'the rate both of those as 10s! Definitely the highlight of the trip and this is after Lavinia. I have never seen so much condensation on the cabine mirrors. I also lost my virginity to her cu she was begging for it and I couldn't say no. I get her number and we met later in the week in my apartment. All in all 4x4 is the best value for your money when it comes to Tier 1 termas. For approximately R$600 you can have 2 girls in contrast to Luomo or MC R$450. 500 for 1 girl. There are many girls to choose from and the bodies are so much tighter than the other Copa termas. Sometimes I wonder how some girls got hired at MC. At least there is a standard in terms of shape in 4x4.

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Tuesday.

My plan is to use this day to chill and recoup my energy as I'll need it bc Ellen from 4x4 is coming over later. Meet up the new monger friends that I've made and we recount our sessions and trade notes on champs and duds LOL.

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Ellen arrives around 1am and meets me at Big Nectar after her shift at 4x4 for some acai then off to my place and she showers up. We go at for a couple hours, fall asleep and the I wake up around 8am with morning wood and wake up with a surprise insertion. The cooperation with this girl is incredible! I give her R$200 and some Victoria secret items for points.

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Wednesday.

Another budget day with ups and downs. Got with new monger mate and went to centro. We decided to just admire the non pro girls in the city but happened to make it to Terma 502. Big mistake after an hour and a half nothing remotely fuckable showed up but no harm no foul only cost us R$20 for entrada which included beverages. I had promised my Terma MC friend to go see Avengers and of course I not so subtly let her know I'm horny. She is reliable, never late, always considerate about how much things cost, takes me around Rio and keeps telling me she likes me even though I'm a safado. Damn shame she is a pro because she is in university and saving and out of all the other terma girls I know is not as materialistic. Anyway I am not conflicted or trying to play captain save a ho or mislead anyone so I give R$200 so as not to complicate things.

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Later went to MC and picked a dud Isabella she was wearing a Tropa De Elite lingerie outfit. From the outside this morena looks incredible, pretty in an Italian model sort of way, big Brazilian ass and unusually big natural titties. Unfortunately she does not cooperate and will not let you make the flesh smacking noise when doing the do. I was so pissed because I usually to get 2 orgasms in but this time only cummed once because she was not aggressive. I should have sought out Naomi. Oh well at least entrance was free.

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Thursday.

So this is my last full day in Rio before I'm off to Sao Paulo for the upcoming work week. I manage to get one of my MC faves Raica (a negra) to pay me a visit we don't discuss price or program as we have history. She knows I come bearing gifts and we'll kick back a few beers and mess around. She arrives later than expected because of Rio traffic. She basically gives me the business because I have seen all these girls and left her for last. She is joking of course but never can tell sometimes. The session was freaking hot and worth it (R$200) it was just too bad she was pressed for time and had to go to work.

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Met up later with Agatha again later that night after her shift and got my last taste of Rio until my next trip to Brazil which will probably be in November / December or sometime next year so have to start saving as I estimate will cost approx $4, 000 to have a good time again if exchange rate stays close to R$1. 90.

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7 days apartment = US$600.

GDP and entertainment budget = US$2, 000.

Flight = US$1, 300.

Pics to follow shortly[/QUOTE]Very good to the point review I agree Terma 502 was a mess loud music and it had a hood vibe to it. And the girls look to me like they have been maybe rejected by the Tier 1's Termas and this was their last stop. BUT I have heard of some guys having good luck in there BUT with the loud music alone to me it isn't worth it.

Kid Cisco

[QUOTE=Smatte; 1292953]Arrived in Rio at 9pm. Was at Centaurus before 11. Why Centaurus? Figured I'd play it safe and they seem to have a good selection of hot girls. I was not disappointed!

Had a few great and really fun chats with girls. Most spoke very good English which is a big plus for me. Settled with a really hot blonde, big fake boobs, loads of tattooes and really cute face. Her name is Sol and she said she was 28yo. A 9 looks wise, and I agreed that completo was on the menu and that I could save some memories (pictures) from the session. No problems.

The session consisted of sloppy blowjob (BBBJ on offer but declined) some deep throating, reverse cow girl, missionary, anal doggy and a cumming on her tits.

Now this may sound quite standard to you but I'll upload a picture the next few days and you'll see why it was extraordinary!

Thanks for all the tips. May try l'uomo before flying back this evening.[/QUOTE]Smatte ,

I agree 100 %! I have always had good luck at Centaurus I wouldn't even think of flying 9 + hours going to Rio without at least going by there at least once or twice on a trip. The key is to take your time and interview the girl normally there isn't a lot of guys in the there and you can just take your time and check out the girls and you did the right thing by making sure you got everything you wanted before you pull the trigger (completo, pictures) etc.

I am glad you are like me and don't and didn't listen to other mongers that will tell you how you wasted your money and you can find other girls that look just as good or better at lower end places at a lot less the cost, by going to Centaurus I have always found a good selection like you did and also like you many spoke almost perfect English maybe going to the other lower end places are good for them and they should keep on going to them BUT if you and others want to go there and if you just pay the entrance and chat with the girls you should feel free to do so and like you many will have some fun.

Kid Cisco

After the centaurus pse yesterday I felt more like a mellow GFE today and went to l'uomo to find it. I arrived around 5. 30 and asked in reception how many girls were around. 18 they said and that proved to be 100% accurate since I was the only man in the club!

I went around saying hi and checking out the entire place before settling for a very very cute fair skinned girl with red hair. Think 1. 70m, tall slender, long legs and very cute schoolgirl style face. Small bum and be-cup. 23yo. No tattooes but pierced clit and toungue. Her name is Melanie and she's been doing this for a year or so. Her English was average at best. The same was true for most of the girls, so a big difference from Centaurus yesterday in that department.

I think Melanie was somewhat of the gringo star of the club as well. All the other girls seemed to assume that I'd end up with her. Which I did. No completo or photos on offer, but a very nice and passionate GFE which I'd gladly repeat. If I could meet this girl outside of clipboard hours I'd do it in a heart beat.

Cracking body, beautiful face, mesmerising smile. Recommended for a 'European style' GFE.

[QUOTE=Kid Cisco; 1293044]Very good to the point review I agree Terma 502 was a mess loud music and it had a hood vibe to it. And the girls look to me like they have been maybe rejected by the Tier 1's Termas and this was their last stop. BUT I have heard of some guys having good luck in there BUT with the loud music alone to me it isn't worth it.

Kid Cisco[/QUOTE]Lately I have seen 1-2 very do-able girls and 1-2 more possibly doable in 502. And I have pretty high standards. The key is tolerating the main boate (with pounding funk) long enough to identify a hottie, and then bring her back to the "smoking room" boate (the other one) which is much quieter. Don't forget you can buy them drinks with your R$20 3-drink card. Suite B upstairs is a decent suite and not that pricey even for the hour. I think it's R$220 with the R$20 entrada on top of that?

502 is still a bargain if you find the right chick. It is always worth a look (R$20 entrada) if you have time in Centro. Recommend 7pm+. By 9pm it is usually dead as the brazilian ass-grabbers have all gone home. Good strike time.

[QUOTE=Smatte; 1292953]Arrived in Rio at 9pm. Was at Centaurus before 11. Why Centaurus? Figured I'd play it safe and they seem to have a good selection of hot girls. I was not disappointed!

Had a few great and really fun chats with girls. Most spoke very good English which is a big plus for me. Settled with a really hot blonde, big fake boobs, loads of tattooes and really cute face. Her name is Sol and she said she was 28yo. A 9 looks wise, and I agreed that completo was on the menu and that I could save some memories (pictures) from the session. No problems.

The session consisted of sloppy blowjob (BBBJ on offer but declined) some deep throating, reverse cow girl, missionary, anal doggy and a cumming on her tits.

Now this may sound quite standard to you but I'll upload a picture the next few days and you'll see why it was extraordinary!

Thanks for all the tips. May try l'uomo before flying back this evening.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the report and pics! What was your all-in price paid, between entrance, drinks, and the girl / room?

[QUOTE=Eric Cartman;1293177]Thanks for the report and pics! What was your all-in price paid, between entrance, drinks, and the girl / room?[/QUOTE]508. 490 plus 18 in drinks. (2 beers) very happy with that price. Had a great time for 250 bucks.

Gustoza! Muito bon. Obrigado.

[QUOTE=Smatte;1292963]Figured out photo upload from iPhone. Enjoy sol at centaurus.[/QUOTE]

We need to be coming to YOU for advice!

[QUOTE=Smatte;1292963]Figured out photo upload from iPhone. Enjoy sol at centaurus.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Smatte;1293179]508. 490 plus 18 in drinks. (2 beers) very happy with that price. Had a great time for 250 bucks.[/QUOTE]Thought Centaurus was more than 490 for 40 mins. Are you including the entrance fee?

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Jusr read on oGlobo and o Dia that Centaurus and L'uomo got raided and shut down last night.

Hope the'll reopen soon. I'm coming down in 12 days.

[QUOTE=Nyc621; 1293476][url]http://oglobo.globo.com/rio/tres-pessoas-sao-presas-na-zona-sul-acusadas-de-incentivar-prostituicao-5213176[/url]

Jusr read on oGlobo and o Dia that Centaurus and L'uomo got raided and shut down last night.

Hope the'll reopen soon. I'm coming down in 12 days.[/QUOTE]As far as I am concerned, both of those places can burn down. Luomo's is way over priced for the quality of women they provide (Has been that way for a couple of years now) , and Cent. Are asswipes for attempting and in most cases succeeding in charging everything upfornt. However, for those that enjoy those places, do not fear. Money talks. They will be open soon.

I was there early this week, and took Bia for a spin. She is a 20yr old spinner from S. Paulo. She enjoys sucking cock for a long period of time, and she does multiple positions without a problem, and for a long period of time. She kisses as though its her last fuck. All is good, except she is not much into receiving oral. Aside from that, not bad for 90r for an hour. I actually went there for a couple of other mulatas, but they were already occupied. This place is easy to find, but the rooms were just so so, nothing out of this world. Worth a visit though.

This gal was lots of fun last year. I guess after a year in the buss, she is finally beginning to get jaded. Great body, and great smile. She provided good service, but it was a bit mechanical compared to previous sessions I have had with her. 100 are for an hour. Its near the Uruguaina Metro station. On the positive, she has become a naughty girl in bed, but doesn't give the gf experience like before. She was screaming nasty things as I was banging her. I am surprised now one kincoked on the door to ask if she was ok, LOL. I understand I am in a working girl house, but for whatever reason, I didn't like the attentio. Everyone could hear her. She takes the load in the mouth, and she takes the salami in the ass as well, she did neither same time last year. She charges extra for anal. About 20-30r more, I forget now. I did not participate in the anal offer. This place has the same owner as Bel Prazer. I did not look at the rest of the line up cause I had called ahead of time to schedule a 1 hr rump with julianna.

This mulata clara has a banging body and she takes it up the ass like a champ. She has a thick, but hard body. 105r for the damage. She has a very clean pussy for you sushi lovers out there.

[QUOTE=Eric Cartman;1293438]Thought Centaurus was more than 490 for 40 mins. Are you including the entrance fee?[/QUOTE]Yep. Definitely 490 incl entrance. I paid just 140 entrance first, and then the rest when I found my ray of sunshine.

Haha. Quite fun that both places I went to in the past 36 hours got raided and shut down.

[QUOTE=Nyc621; 1293476][url]http://oglobo.globo.com/rio/tres-pessoas-sao-presas-na-zona-sul-acusadas-de-incentivar-prostituicao-5213176[/url]

Jusr read on oGlobo and o Dia that Centaurus and L'uomo got raided and shut down last night.

Hope the'll reopen soon. I'm coming down in 12 days.[/QUOTE]This is not your typical did not pay the bribes raid. This is the party is over raid.

I commented privately to an esteemed member of this forum a few days ago that the government is out to clean house which will include Balcony. I doubt that they will go after the escort agencies or prives. Of course this all could be a show for Rio +20 (the kids are even off school for a few days) so stay tuned.

[QUOTE=Nyc621; 1293476][url]http://oglobo.globo.com/rio/tres-pessoas-sao-presas-na-zona-sul-acusadas-de-incentivar-prostituicao-5213176[/url]

Jusr read on oGlobo and o Dia that Centaurus and L'uomo got raided and shut down last night.

Hope the'll reopen soon. I'm coming down in 12 days.[/QUOTE]I'm surprised as with the big conference in town next week, one would have expected these places to be left alone so they could generate a lot of cash and therefore pay bigger bribes / protection fees. But it sounds like someone wanted MOAR NOW. Or this is a power struggle going on between whoever was getting the bribe and whoever wants it. First MC and now a round-up raid of Zona Sul houses.

It's hard to read through the sensationalist reporting but it does sound like they sent 3 people to jail including 2 chicks to Bangu (!). My friend who works at L'Uomo says she at home until at least Monday as a result.

Very interesting turn of events.

[QUOTE=Nyc621; 1293476][url]http://oglobo.globo.com/rio/tres-pessoas-sao-presas-na-zona-sul-acusadas-de-incentivar-prostituicao-5213176[/url]

Jusr read on oGlobo and o Dia that Centaurus and L'uomo got raided and shut down last night.

Hope the'll reopen soon. I'm coming down in 12 days.[/QUOTE]Some highights from the report:

290, 000 R in cash was collected at Centaurus compared to only 3000 R in Uomo.

They counted 90 girls working at Centaurus.

Portogese puritans want p4p to look like NYC or London to world elites. Expect more.

[QUOTE=Eric Cartman; 1293608]I'm surprised as with the big conference in town next week, one would have expected these places to be left alone so they could generate a lot of cash and therefore pay bigger bribes / protection fees. But it sounds like someone wanted MOAR NOW. Or this is a power struggle going on between whoever was getting the bribe and whoever wants it. First MC and now a round-up raid of Zona Sul houses.

It's hard to read through the sensationalist reporting but it does sound like they sent 3 people to jail including 2 chicks to Bangu (!). My friend who works at L'Uomo says she at home until at least Monday as a result.

Very interesting turn of events.[/QUOTE]

Brazilian boards report 12 termas targeted; On the other hand, Brazilian boards report lots of girls from other houses at Mosaico and prices going up.

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Look at the nonsense: mean of 12 homes inspected, five were ok? How so? So PROSTITUTION FIVE houses were able to enter the working line? Taking a drafting error that uncultured who call themselves journalists today, we can deprender this information?

Olha o nonsense: quer dizer que de 12 casas fiscalizadas. 5 estavam ok? Como assim? Então CINCO casas de PROSTITUIÇÃO estavam aptas a funcionar entro dos conformes?

Tirando um erro de redação desse boçais que se dizem jornalistas hoje them dia, o que podemos deprender dessa informação?

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I was in Mosaic, was celebrated birthday four years, full house, Nikita returning from vacation, many girls, mixed cast, some already call the routine and some new ones, failed to account for the news, some 20 girls from other houses, Yesterday I ended up with a galetin Amanda out of the oven, a very blonde pussy, friendly, funky, this pretty picture yesterday and promises to our known Fernandinha Helms was a pretty picture!

Estive na Mosaico, comemorou-se 4 anos de aniversario, casa cheia, Nikita voltando de férias, muitas meninas, elenco misto, algumas ja do plantão rotineiro e algumas novidades, andão deu para contabilizar as novidades, umas 20 meninas vindas de outras casas, ontem acabei subindo com a Amanda um galetin saindo do forno, uma loirinha muito gatinha, simpática, descolada, essa promete e a muito gata ontem a nossa conhecida, Fernandinha Lemes estava muito gata!

[QUOTE=Eric Cartman; 1293608]I'm surprised as with the big conference in town next week, one would have expected these places to be left alone so they could generate a lot of cash and therefore pay bigger bribes / protection fees. But it sounds like someone wanted MOAR NOW. Or this is a power struggle going on between whoever was getting the bribe and whoever wants it. First MC and now a round-up raid of Zona Sul houses.

It's hard to read through the sensationalist reporting but it does sound like they sent 3 people to jail including 2 chicks to Bangu (!). My friend who works at L'Uomo says she at home until at least Monday as a result.

I was at home last Friday. The values &8203; &8203; of TD increased and is now 1h 180. 00 and our discount for second spent 1h 130. 00. I do not know the values &8203; &8203; of 30 min 1h pq only go up. Viviane met but she was the same guy in the ass again and I decided that I would go with her &8203; &8203; because the TD would be a shit again. Let me explain what this means shit if pq Viviane has a face and beautiful body galetinho style, belly scratch, whole body in place and well Gostosinho. And like the first time she gave me much attention, was rolling for me while we waited for the room, seducing me, I ended up not connecting with the oral hood, which does not do anal, which claims to grip the hair or push a little of their waist and her ass. But the spell passed and took effect the way! Hehehe If she returns to treat me decently I can change my mind LOL. Abs.

Estive na casa na última sexta. Os valores de TD aumentaram e agora é 1h 180, 00 e o nosso desconto de segunda passou pra 1h 130, 00. Não sei os valores de 30 min pq só subo 1h. Encontrei com a Viviane mas ela estava com a mesma cara de seeú the outra vez e decidi que andão subiria com ela pq o TD seria novamente uma merda.

Permitam-me explicar o significa merda neste caso pq a Viviane tem um rosto bem bonito, corpo estilo galetinho, barriga zero, corpo todo no lugar e bem gostosinho. E como the primeira vez ela me deu muita atenção, ficou rebolando pra mim enquanto aguardávamos o quarto, me seduzindo, eu acabei andão ligando que o oral é com capa, que andão faz anal, que reclama se pega no cabelo ou aperta um pouco sua cintura e sua bunda. Mas o feitiço passou o efeito e tomei jeito! Hehehe.

Se ela voltar a me tratar decentemente posso mudar de I'déia rs.

Abs.

Very interesting turn of events.[/QUOTE]

I'll be in town on the 28th, I'll see for myself what's been closed besause my apt is right next to centaurus and thats always my first stop. I'm not too worried though because it will open my eyes to new places and fact of the matter is this, armed with cash Rio has no shortage of women.

[QUOTE=Tiradentes; 1293613]Some highights from the report:

290, 000 R in cash was collected at Centaurus compared to only 3000 R in Uomo.

They counted 90 girls working at Centaurus.[/QUOTE]One more reason to boycott Centaurus: Safety.

Add to the list of rude management, subpar facilities, overpriced sessions, this terma sits on a 300 k a night in their coffers. It would only take one learned criminal in Rio to read the OGlobo newspaper before he decides to invade centaurus and loot the $$$. The criminals in Rio already invade banks, buses, residencial complexes and even hotels. So why not a terma sitting on a gold mine? Unless they are scared and deterred by the 4 four security details who sit outside (and serve as valet parking).

On a side note, Rio hired Rudy Giuliani's PR firm to clean up Rio's image almost 4 years ago. Rudy as always went after the easy targets

[QUOTE=PatmarBeleza1; 1293624]Look at the nonsense: mean of 12 homes inspected, five were ok? How so? So PROSTITUTION FIVE houses were able to enter the working line? Taking a drafting error that uncultured who call themselves journalists today, we can deprender this information?

Olha o nonsense: quer dizer que de 12 casas fiscalizadas. 5 estavam ok? Como assim? Então CINCO casas de PROSTITUIÇÃO estavam aptas a funcionar entro dos conformes?[/QUOTE]I don't believe it was 12 termas targeted. It was L and C, and then it read like a bunch of the girl-bars around Prado Junior: Ciciolina, Franks, Sensoo, etc. I don't recall if they mentioned Barbarella. But that's why 5 were "OK". Because they couldn't bust anyone for fucking, since at the girl bars there are not on-site rooms (that's my guess). The article makes mention that they otherwise caught people "in the act" at L and C.

This is all quite amusing as I was at 502 last night and the place was hopping. They were having another theme party. Saw maybe 3-4 doable girls. R$220 for the suite 1hr and R$20 entrada (3 drinks) and $6. 00 in additional drink charges.

[QUOTE=Tiradentes;1293751]On a side note, Rio hired Rudy Giuliani's PR firm to clean up Rio's image almost 4 years ago. Rudy as always went after the easy targets[/QUOTE]Maybe this explain the " mind-set " that is taking place now in Rio I hope it doesn't turn out like New York with their " STOP & FRISK" in certain neighborhoods like Tribeca and Upper East Side and Greenwich Village. I read on the site a few days ago about how certain girls were allowed to walk into certain Hotels and go up to the rooms with their Tricks and others wasn't and was stopped. When the World Cup and the Games come to Brazil this Rudy Giuliani's game plan will be interesting going forward.

IF Rio and Brazil is so worry about their image let them keep Rudy way of doing things and profiling people and places and see how that plays out with the rest of the world when they come there looking to spend money and have a good time... this is why many places go out of business right after major events because the locals and other people remember how they were treated and take their money and business somewhere else.. these people making these silly rules needs to realize there is life after these events ..

Kid Cisco

[QUOTE=Kid Cisco;1293795]Maybe this explain the " mind-set " that is taking place now in Rio I hope it doesn't turn out like New York with their " STOP & FRISK" in certain neighborhoods[/QUOTE]I guess you have never been Stopped and Frisked in Rio. I have been twice, once in the early 80's leaving that Motel near Prado Junior and once in 2004 leaving Help with a buddy and 2 girls in a taxi on the way to Ipanema. They pulled the taxi over and told us all to get out of the taxi when I spoke Portuguese to the cop in charge. They barely frisked the girls and one of them knew one of the cops. My friend got frisked but they were particularly interested in me, he touched my pockets on the outside, never went in my pocket but told me to empty them. I also emptied my wallet and an overnight bag I had. He asked me if I had drugs, I told him no I only like whisky and women. I was worried about them planting something on me but they didn't and the machine guns got me a little nervous. They let us go got back in the taxi and everybody was as cool as a cucumber except me. The girl asked me what's my problem? I said this doesn't happen back in the US, she said here it is normal happens all the time. We ended up having a great party with the 2 girls, a night to remember.

[QUOTE=Tiradentes; 1293751]One more reason to boycott Centaurus: Safety.

Add to the list of rude management, subpar facilities, overpriced sessions, this terma sits on a 300 k a night in their coffers. It would only take one learned criminal in Rio to read the OGlobo newspaper before he decides to invade centaurus and loot the $$$. The criminals in Rio already invade banks, buses, residencial complexes and even hotels. So why not a terma sitting on a gold mine? Unless they are scared and deterred by the 4 four security details who sit outside (and serve as valet parking).

On a side note, Rio hired Rudy Giuliani's PR firm to clean up Rio's image almost 4 years ago. Rudy as always went after the easy targets[/QUOTE]More true than even you might think. One reason I always felt safe in termas and centro casas was I knew gangs controlled much of the activity. Ever noticed how orderly things are among the patrons in even the seediest centro casa? People know what will happen to them if they mess up in these places.

But as the police stated about the latest raids the other night, they seek to uproot the "mafia" element.

Once that "mafia" element is gone the robberies will start. And, then the politicians will probably use the robberies as further evidence of the need to close down termas and casas.

SS

[QUOTE=Sangue Bon;1293826]I guess you have never been Stopped and Frisked in Rio. I have been twice, once in the early 80's leaving that Motel near Prado Junior and once in 2004 leaving Help with a buddy and 2 girls in a taxi on the way to Ipanema. They pulled the taxi over and told us all to get out of the taxi when I spoke Portuguese to the cop in charge. They barely frisked the girls and one of them knew one of the cops. My friend got frisked but they were particularly interested in me, he touched my pockets on the outside, never went in my pocket but told me to empty them. I also emptied my wallet and an overnight bag I had. He asked me if I had drugs, I told him no I only like whisky and women. I was worried about them planting something on me but they didn't and the machine guns got me a little nervous. They let us go got back in the taxi and everybody was as cool as a cucumber except me. The girl asked me what's my problem? I said this doesn't happen back in the US, she said here it is normal happens all the time. We ended up having a great party with the 2 girls, a night to remember.[/QUOTE]Sangue Bon,

You guess right Sangue LOL LOL I NEVER been stopped or Frisked in Rio after going there for all these years nor have I been mugged or robbed as time goes by each time I go there I feel maybe this time my luck will run out and something will happen to me BUT let me knock on wood nothing have. I am sorry to hear about your problems you had with the cops. I have heard and known other guys that have been stopped when they would try taking girls back to their hotels getting stopped etc. At road blocks or being pulled over etc. Police looking to make some extra cash $$ in most cases.

The thing I think that have helped me is I don't travel or monger with other guys at night or in the daytime or do I travel in a group or pack I will have lunch with some guys I know that live in Rio now and then BUT after eating I get up and keep it moving. And I will always have girls take a taxi over my place or meet me at nightclub. BUT I don't normally travel with chicks at night I don't know very well. I guess because I am use to walking and getting around the world on my own until to me this is normal and I have even walked up to police or even stopped them (police) in their cars and asked them questions LOL without any problems. I will also add when you are in the Ipanema area you have to look or dress and act like you belong there or you can bring on problems but like I said I never had any issues.

I have told people MANY times when asked about am I worry about being robbed or being stopped by the police in Brazil I always told them NO! Just when I am in the USA am I worry about being mugged or robbed and I am more concerned with being stopped or being fuck with by the police here in the United States in either some small towns or in large cities like LA or the NYC hell you can't even get a Taxi in certain places in New York at night but I NEVER! I mean NEVER had that problem in Rio over the decades of going there.

BUT, for some reason whenever a police do stopped me in the United States when I show them my VA card or my old Military I.D. they step back and say how sorry they are for stopping me and they thought I was someone else and how thankful they are for my service and leave me alone...

Kid Cisco

[QUOTE=Exec Talent; 1293600]This is not your typical did not pay the bribes raid. This is the party is over raid.

I commented privately to an esteemed member of this forum a few days ago that the government is out to clean house which will include Balcony. I doubt that they will go after the escort agencies or prives. Of course this all could be a show for Rio +20 (the kids are even off school for a few days) so stay tuned.[/QUOTE]




I think you are right, this is different. Directed by the district attorney, managers and directors caught them " em flagrante" (in the act of a crime) and sent to prison awaitng trial. The charges are new to me,"incentivating prostitution". If found guilty they could face to 2 to 5 years.

R$290, 000 was found at Centaurus. If a deal was possible they could have done it on the spot. The manager of Monte Carlo has also been charged, after a raid on 28th May.

Rudy Guiliano has nothing to do with this. Some years ago they talked about the possibility that he would work with the state government, but nothing came of it. At the same time they also said that Tony Blair would be involved with the organization of the olympics, just PR stunts I figure.

What is happening now is the work of the state government working hand in hand with the city government, I think it could change things a lot. Obviously, they know there is no possibility of stamping out prostitution, the intention I believe, is to move the boundaries.

What happens to the "clients" who happen to be in the various termas when one of these raids "goes down?"

[quote=beach star; 1293885]i think you are right, this is different. directed by the district attorney, managers and directors caught them " them flagrante" (in the act of a crime) and sent to prison awaitng trial. the charges are new to me,"incentivating prostitution". if found guilty they could face to 2 to 5 years.

r$290, 000 was found at centaurus. if a deal was possible they could have done it on the spot. the manager of monte carlo has also been charged, after a raid on 28th may.

rudy guiliano has nothing to do with this. some years ago they talked about the possibility that he would work with the state government, but nothing came of it. at the same time they also said that tony blair would be involved with the organization of the olympics, just pr stunts i figure.

what is happening now is the work of the state government working hand in hand with the city government, i think it could change things a lot. obviously, they know there is no possibility of stamping out prostitution, the intention i believe, is to move the boundaries.[/quote]100% correct as you can't stamp out what is legal and part of you labor code. you can however make it difficult to operate and push to locations of your disgression.

if balcony gets rid of the drugs and **** gdps they will be ok. event handlers love local meeting spots and bars for discrete prostitute encounters.

[quote=riofan6;1293893]what happens to the "clients" who happen to be in the various termas when one of these raids "goes down?"[/quote]

i was in mc during a raid and we were let g0 after they controlled the scene and ensured the gdp you were with was of age. i heard the girs are questioned and let go and the owners and managers arrested and fined unless arrangements are made at the terma but theses seem like legit raids.

[quote=alex deuce; 1293894]100% correct as you can't stamp out what is legal and part of you labor code. you can however make it difficult to operate and push to locations of your disgression.

if balcony gets rid of the drugs and **** gdps they will be ok. event handlers love local meeting spots and bars for discrete prostitute encounters.

i was in mc during a raid and we were let g0 after they controlled the scene and ensured the gdp you were with was of age. i heard the girs are questioned and let go and the owners and managers arrested and fined unless arrangements are made at the terma but theses seem like legit raids.[/quote]you post some great info. here alex stuff i didn't know, i posted months ago that sooner then later rio will start finding reasons to closed down and start messing with these termas before the world cup and the games come to rio this is why i decided to go to rio one last time a few months ago before all hell break loose. since i love going to rio for the termas and once they are all closed down there is no reasons for me to go there anymore.

many stopped going to rio once club help closed down because many went there just to hang out in front and inside of club help at night and hang out at the beach by day so many of them stopped going to rio altogether hell most of the guys i know that did that they never even been inside of a terma, as many have found out the girls don't really hang out at the beach anymore like they use to i guess because the tourist have stopped going to rio like they use to.

kid cisco

How many times have these termas been closed and reopened? From the massage parlors to the termas. If you're new to Rio you may be shocked, but if you're a vet of Rio you know arrests and raids go on often. And the termas have nothing to do with the Olympics because only monger-tourist know where these places are and exists. I know of Americans "and" Brasilians who've either visited Rio and or lived there, and not know of Copa hoes, termas or casas. Meaning Olympic tourist won't know of these spots or wouldn't randomly find them either. Plus, they have high priced event tickets to miss for pussy. So let's not overreact by the rumor mill. Bribes are meant to be paid, so tell the owners / managers to pay what they owe.

prostitution is legal in brazil. operating a house of prostitution (termas) is not legal since the owner, manager and employees benefit financially from the acts of prostitution of another. the only reason the termas exist is because the government looked the other way. that apparently has stopped. previously they were busted for failing to pay bribes. this time it is different.

as for balcony, the owner needs to sell it while he can sell it as a going concern. the story all over the internet, tv and in the newspaper was a warning. he was setup. if you are **** or a drug dealer are you going to state that on tv? when you are operating an undesirable business in another country, you do so at your peril. when they want you gone, you will be gone.

the closing of help was not the end, it was the beginning. right now there are cities in the us which are more tolerant of prostitution than rio. also, where there is a lot more activity often at cheaper prices.

LOL. I'm here for the weekend and was just going online to look for early entry coupon for Luomo and / or MC. Then realized luomo's site is shut down and was just wondering what happened and wonder back here. That totally screwed up my Sunday plan. Too bad termas is all I know in Rio since I don't know Portuguese at all to venture into massage parlors. Do you guys have any recommenced massages / private in / around Barra? Well, I have a car too so I guess I can also drive a bit.

Anyway, It's Saturday night! Anyone here interested to hit a night club together? I'm thinking about nuth. Let me know.

Just posted a reply but seems to be disappeared. Anyway, was going to visit Luomo or MC tomorrow, I guess it is impossible now or any other termas for that matter. Any suggestion for massage / private in the area? I'm in Barra but I can drive.

Second note. It is Saturday night Brothers! I'm thinking of hitting some night clubs tonight, possibly nuth, anyone interested to join? Let me know

[QUOTE=Riofan6;1293893]What happens to the "clients" who happen to be in the various termas when one of these raids "goes down?"[/QUOTE]I was in 4 x 4 with a drink in my hand and a piece of ass in the other when it was raided last year. They shut the place down and questioned the girls. All of the customers got dressed and lined up in the bar down stairs for about an hour wait. Then one by one, the Federal Police (guys wearing suits with badges around their necks) took down every single customers information from their personal identification before letting them go. As usual, I had a color copy of my passport and visa. The lady Police agent wrote everything down, then let me go my way.

No problems at all in my situation. I was a bit concerned during my last flight to Rio and before entering immigrations. The Federal Police is there at the window where you show your documents. I was somewhat curious if they had my information in the system as far as what hapenned last year. But it was nothing but smooth sailing.

I was actually very calm due to what a friend of mine told me before the flight. He said not to worry becuase the Brazilian government is so disorganized, its really doubtful they would have info. About me in their system. Then again, why would they want stop a tourist who is going to spend plenty of time in Brazil, and is going to spend quite a bit of money during his stay.

Anytime you bunch the room and service and all funds don't go Directly to the GDP you're breaking the law. Every rule, fine or work regulation to the GDP is patently illegal. The Termas are supposed to be gentlemen's clubs that allow independent contractors to work there and service the patrons in their private rooms with massages and alike.

was told several times, to this day in fact, VM is legal and Termas are not. WTF! Something about how the rooms are rented. There is this +50 year old GDP constantly on the news and papers raging about Terma abuses yet camped out at VM handing out condoms and marketing for it.

Hello ISG!

Looking for some advice. I will be traveling to South America this summer with a group of 4-5 guys. We have a one night layover in Rio and in Sao Paulo. We were contemplating renting an apartment and having some beautiful Brazilian Pros come join us rather than going to the Termas. Does any one have a recommendation on an apartment to rent that will 1.) allow this activity and 2.) accommodate the whole group?

I was also thinking about renting 2 Hotel rooms for the group, however I think it might be difficult to get 4 Brazilian women in the hotel with 4 American men. My past experiences have proven this to be nearly impossible without a lenient door man. Am I "Spot-On" with this?

Also, Based on my review of the forum it seems that SOLO play is the preferred method of mongering, however in this case the only option we have is with the group. If you have TIPS for us please share!

Thanks for any suggestions you may have!

MiamiVice

If the government was able to close every terma, would anyone here ever go again. I say no. I don't see spending 900 on airfare. 60 a night for an apartment so I can go to the beach and call escorts there. Doesn't seem worth it to me. Can someone in Rio give a accounting of how many termas are closed of the top 7. The sad part is this is happening as the real is getting weak.

The illegal activity that might occur at a terma isn't only exploration of prostitution, but also exploration of minors, money laundering, drug trafficing and illegal possession of firearms.

Imagine the necessary clean-up they will do in Zona Sul two years from now, to be able to show up a neat Rio to the world.

Except, Centauros and L'uomo, these clubs were also raided; Copacabana Termas Spa, Café Sensoo, La Cicciolina, Barbarella, Erotika, Don Juan, Termas Casablanca, Boate Miami Show, Boate Calábria and Boate 204.

[url]http://oglobo.globo.com/rio/tres-pessoas-sao-presas-na-zona-sul-acusadas-de-incentivar-prostituicao-5213176[/url]

[url]http://videos.r7.com/mp-fecha-casas-de-prostituicao-na-zona-sul-do-rio/idmedia/4fdb9891e4b0ba35db6dcbab.html[/url]

Of all the Termas in Rio, Centaurus is the most hated by locals anyway. The ultimate tourist trap. They overcharge for everything, so it is no surprise they found $290, 000 lying around. For those who L O V E the place, don't worry. As locals say, well placed brownbag here and there and BINGO, surprise, surprise, business as usual. The only place that bothers me when they raid is 4 X 4, period. Any of these other places in Copa and Ipanema can go up in smoke right now and I wouldn't miss them.

They all have been getting extremely cocky, extending their overcharging ways by raising prices and not paying off more those who allow them to exist in the first place. It is a show of force as always and the pecking order will shortly be restored (As in who gets how much more in monthly instalments). Trust me, these guys would not afford their lavish lifestyles if they didn't look the other way, pinch their noses, and have their hand out at the same time.

Don't be surprised if they start charging even M O R E money for services and entrance fees all over Rio, but especially Zona Zul. I predict BR 200 entry for Centaurus and a minimum of BR 600 to session there, About BR 100+ to ENTER the other spots in Copa is right around the corner, MC, Solarium, Lluomos etc and BR500 minimums are being discussed.

[QUOTE=Sperto; 1294031]The illegal activity that might occur at a terma isn't only exploration of prostitution, but also exploration of minors, money laundering, drug trafficing and illegal possession of firearms.

Imagine the necessary clean-up they will do in Zona Sul two years from now, to be able to show up a neat Rio to the world.

Except, Centauros and L'uomo, these clubs were also raided; Copacabana Termas Spa, Café Sensoo, La Cicciolina, Barbarella, Erotika, Don Juan, Termas Casablanca, Boate Miami Show, Boate Calábria and Boate 204.

[url]http://oglobo.globo.com/rio/tres-pessoas-sao-presas-na-zona-sul-acusadas-de-incentivar-prostituicao-5213176[/url]

[url]http://videos.r7.com/mp-fecha-casas-de-prostituicao-na-zona-sul-do-rio/idmedia/4fdb9891e4b0ba35db6dcbab.html[/url][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Sperto; 1294031]The illegal activity that might occur at a terma isn't only exploration of prostitution, but also exploration of minors, money laundering, drug trafficing and illegal possession of firearms.

Imagine the necessary clean-up they will do in Zona Sul two years from now, to be able to show up a neat Rio to the world.

Except, Centauros and L'uomo, these clubs were also raided; Copacabana Termas Spa, Café Sensoo, La Cicciolina, Barbarella, Erotika, Don Juan, Termas Casablanca, Boate Miami Show, Boate Calábria and Boate 204.

[url]http://oglobo.globo.com/rio/tres-pessoas-sao-presas-na-zona-sul-acusadas-de-incentivar-prostituicao-5213176[/url]

[url]http://videos.r7.com/mp-fecha-casas-de-prostituicao-na-zona-sul-do-rio/idmedia/4fdb9891e4b0ba35db6dcbab.html[/url][/QUOTE]Well, I found a very interesting commentary in the O Globo News.

I quote, literally:

"Dr Adolfo Dias 15/06/12. 19:26

O peração inútil, visto que Na reformulação do novo seeódigo penal que tramita no congresso esse crime (another site casas de prostituição) vai deixar de existir. Isso já foi divulgado".

Which translated, means:

"This is a useless operation, because in the new Criminal Code that they're working on at the (Brazilian) Congress, this crime (having houses of prostitution) will cease to exist. This has already been released".

Interesting.

P. S. : Personally I think that this has to do more with the Rio+20 event. Politicians saving face.

With the way things are going now the guys that took down girls e-mail addresses and phone numbers and network on-line with working girls on Facebook and other social media outlets like twitter and others many of the ones I have are in the high 300's that worked in the Termas all over Rio off and on over the years many use to work in Club Help and other bars and clubs over the years, I have many that IF I do come back to Rio I have many to pick and choose from many will send me messages almost everyday asking me when am I coming back to Rio the prices I do pay them are in the range of some of the entrance fees in some of these places.

I also have met many non-pros I rather deal with as many of you know some of the best sex you can have in Rio come from non-pros.

If or when these places do open back up or when the owners do pay off certain people these working girls STILL have hungry babies to feed and rent to pay and cellphone bills to pay and food to eat etc. And being able to reach out to them will come in handy and the prices are far less that you will pay NO matter what Termas you may LOVE or HATE. Besides you will come from a power stand point and can set your own price because you will take away their options of working in the Termas who knows for how long? It will last? A day? A week? Who to say? The bills must be still be paid.

BTW LOL Some of you guys (not all) are cracking me up stop and don't even waste your time looking for me on Facebook and asking different mongers and girls about me I have sooo many different accounts. For my normal friends, and for my private family members and for my working girls in different countries I know and other people I know and served with in the Military along with many other different accounts I have for business. I keep my stuff private to just a few hand full of people that I have known for a long time and NON of them are mongers that can view my info that is "private" anyways, I have seen mongers over the years rat on other mongers and get jealous over other guys getting better prices then them or guys that get sex for free from working girls and jealous mongers will run to working girls and tell them about their pictures being posted and about reports that have been made on here so I don't trust "FULL" time mongers what I call them are "Capers " guys that put on a Cape and try to save working girls and rat on other mongers.

If this keep up there will be no reason to go to Rio for the guys that only enjoy going to the Termas and don't have a list of girls they can call on and I don't really care for escorts services and of course you can always find some local Taxi driver that will take you around to different apts, and houses or he will have his own list of girls BUT you may not like what he show you and you have to give him a cut too $$ hell many get a cut from these Termas now anyways... so get your list together now just in case they shut down these Termas, and hostess bars for good.. hell there won't even be the Balcony Bar as a option left lol and I couldn't stand that place when I was there lol

Kid Cisco

[QUOTE=Sperto;1294031]The illegal activity that might occur at a terma isn't only exploration of prostitution, but also exploration of minors, money laundering, drug trafficing and illegal possession of[/quote]Exploration and exploitation are the same word in portuguese. But not in Englsih

[QUOTE=Eric Cartman;1294163]Exploration and exploitation are the same word in portuguese. But not in Englsih[/QUOTE]Sorry for the error (Englsih isn't my native language).

[QUOTE=Voyajer1;1294078]Of all the Termas in Rio, Centaurus is the most hated by locals anyway.[/QUOTE]I do not love the place but know if you want to rub shoulders with some of Rio's and Sao Paulo's movers and shakers Centaurus and Solarium are two of the places you will find them. Most Brazilians I talk with in both places would be happy if gringos never set foot in their places. As I mentioned before, the business strategy is no different from a high-priced country club in the US. As for the facilities, I agree. Other than larger rooms, Centaurus is pretty much a dump.

FWIW, I know some of the Class A,"laughing A" what I have been calling portugese puritans. In front of global elites, these people will shut down the L's the C's and MC's because they are within a geographic ring of finance companies mentioned in The Economist. Next 2 years will be downhill for the tier 1 termas, but time will tell. On the Class D end of the spectrum, former GDPs can do service work with higher income than their former profession. That drops the quality available to the monger.

[QUOTE=Sperto; 1294031]The illegal activity that might occur at a terma isn't only exploration of prostitution, but also exploration of minors, money laundering, drug trafficing and illegal possession of firearms.

Imagine the necessary clean-up they will do in Zona Sul two years from now, to be able to show up a neat Rio to the world.

Except, Centauros and L'uomo, these clubs were also raided; Copacabana Termas Spa, Café Sensoo, La Cicciolina, Barbarella, Erotika, Don Juan, Termas Casablanca, Boate Miami Show, Boate Calábria and Boate 204.

[url]http://oglobo.globo.com/rio/tres-pessoas-sao-presas-na-zona-sul-acusadas-de-incentivar-prostituicao-5213176[/url]

[url]http://videos.r7.com/mp-fecha-casas-de-prostituicao-na-zona-sul-do-rio/idmedia/4fdb9891e4b0ba35db6dcbab.html[/url][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Exec Talent;1294206]I do not love the place but know if you want to rub shoulders with some of Rio's and Sao Paulo's movers and shakers Centaurus and Solarium are two of the places you will find them. Most Brazilians I talk with in both places would be happy if gringos never set foot in their places. As I mentioned before, the business strategy is no different from a high-priced country club in the US. As for the facilities, I agree. Other than larger rooms, Centaurus is pretty much a dump.[/QUOTE]100% correct

[QUOTE=Eric Cartman; 1293175]Lately I have seen 1-2 very do-able girls and 1-2 more possibly doable in 502. And I have pretty high standards. The key is tolerating the main boate (with pounding funk) long enough to identify a hottie, and then bring her back to the "smoking room" boate (the other one) which is much quieter. Don't forget you can buy them drinks with your R$20 3-drink card. Suite B upstairs is a decent suite and not that pricey even for the hour. I think it's R$220 with the R$20 entrada on top of that?

502 is still a bargain if you find the right chick. It is always worth a look (R$20 entrada) if you have time in Centro. Recommend 7pm+. By 9pm it is usually dead as the brazilian ass-grabbers have all gone home. Good strike time.[/QUOTE]I found this at 502, and it was GOOD too. VERY!

Thinking it was more than 48 hours ago and feeling bored in a Sunday afternoon, I decided to drive over to Copa and check out the places.

And all I can say is both MC and L is still closed. What a sad place this is.

[QUOTE=Sperto;1294171]Sorry for the error (Englsih isn't my native language).[/QUOTE]"Englsih" is what I get posting from my phone.

I find the exploitation / exploration thing really interesting. One of those Latin root things that makes English / Portuguese fun to learn. It's also quite funny when you see it on signs in elevators and buildings all the time. How the "Exploration" (exploracao, really "exploitation") of children is a crime. I'm like, what about Dora The Explorer.

I suspect that MC and L, along with the Copa, Ipanema, Leblon Termas will be closed until the end of Rio+20. Rio+20 has as high a international profile as the upcoming games according to my conversations with the Class A, laughing A's, and their circle. We'll see.

[QUOTE=Greasy; 1294311]Thinking it was more than 48 hours ago and feeling bored in a Sunday afternoon, I decided to drive over to Copa and check out the places.

And all I can say is both MC and L is still closed. What a sad place this is.[/QUOTE]

By order of the MP, the police closed the spa center 4x4. But 4x4 is still open, right?

THE GLOBE.

Published:

10/07/11

Remember last Oct. 2011 When 4x4 was raided and closed? Read article from Globo, but it's open, right!

RIO. The Spa Four x Four, in Buenos Aires 44th Street, downtown, was closed on Friday night, when operated at full steam. Around 22pm, the assistant chief of the 5th Precinct, Roberto Leal Lizandro, came home with agents to comply with a determination of the prosecutor, who denounced the existence of activities of prostitution and drug dealing at the site.

The first complaint was confirmed and Rozilda Batista the Silva, who introduced himself as responsible for the house, was arrested in the act. She was taken to the Prison Complex in Bangor. If convicted, can carry two to five years imprisonment plus a fine.

At the site, were also seized USA $ 18, 426, four debit machines and three computers. Opened 11 years ago, the house became famous after being included in the letter of the funk "Adultery," Mr. Catra.

I suspect the Oct 2011 4x4 raid was a test run for the terma raids now at the time of Rio+20 and to come with the copa do mundo, and olympics coming up.

There were test runs of the UPPs before the November 2010 wide-spread deployment of UPP into Rio, which resulted in real firefights, and buses being burned. I think what you are seeing now in the tier 1 termas will be similar to the wide-spread deployment of UPP. That is a clean up of a side of Rio that the Portugese Puritans do not want the world elites to see because they want their investment grade credit rating, and so the marvelous city must have P4P on the same terms as the home cities of the credit analysts, London and NYC.

From a social engineering stand point, closing termas may have a similar effect to UPPs. Moving Class D brasileiras into Class C. Or so the Portugese Puritans imagine.

We'll see.

But if the Zona Sul Termas open up, now the authorities have their playbook for closing them down ahead of the games.

[QUOTE=Ipanema Carioca; 1294437]By order of the MP, the police closed the spa center 4x4. But 4x4 is still open, right?

THE GLOBE.

Published:

10/07/11

Remember last Oct. 2011 When 4x4 was raided and closed? Read article from Globo, but it's open, right!

RIO. The Spa Four x Four, in Buenos Aires 44th Street, downtown, was closed on Friday night, when operated at full steam. Around 22pm, the assistant chief of the 5th Precinct, Roberto Leal Lizandro, came home with agents to comply with a determination of the prosecutor, who denounced the existence of activities of prostitution and drug dealing at the site.

The first complaint was confirmed and Rozilda Batista the Silva, who introduced himself as responsible for the house, was arrested in the act. She was taken to the Prison Complex in Bangor. If convicted, can carry two to five years imprisonment plus a fine.

At the site, were also seized USA $ 18, 426, four debit machines and three computers. Opened 11 years ago, the house became famous after being included in the letter of the funk "Adultery," Mr. Catra.[/QUOTE]

Last month I was in termas Montecarlo in Copacabana, lot of choice quality but for me it's still expensive my favorite place is villa mimosa LOL.

Be careful, don't go to Lapa. My friend was involded in a fight with prostitutes and guys, while he was drinking alone they stolen jewels and money.

[QUOTE=The Cane;1294281]I found this at 502, and it was GOOD too. VERY![/QUOTE]I also would have done her IF she was there when I went there early this year LOL BUT she wasn't LOL like Eric said I also seen 1-2 chicks that was doable as well and I did have a session with a chick there (with the low price after I have been to all the other Termas I would give the place a hour and a half) before I would leave that is ALL I could take of the loud music. With there ONLY being 1-2 chicks there worth doing I am willing to bet they would be kept busy so from the time I go in there I would look at my watch and mark my time for a hour and a half before I will give up on the place.

Like everything in Rio when it comes to the Termas the girls move from place to place and even when I was there one place one day would have hot looking girls I would want to do like Monte Carlo and when I go there the very next day looking to do a session with them I wouldn't see them? I was like WTF? That happen a lot on this past trip no matter what Terma I would go to I would see a group of hot looking girls I would want to do a session with and I would do a few that day BUT when I go there the next day 90% of that group wouldn't even be there? LOL it got to the point I was taking down their number because I didn't know IF or when I would see them again.

So what I found out early on this trip was IF you see something you like you better session with her or get her number because the next day or even that week there is a good chance she won't be there no longer. Hell with the way these Termas are closing down or being closed down I should say there won't be many options left seem like.

Kid Cisco

[QUOTE=PatmarBeleza1;1294419]I suspect that MC and L, along with the Copa, Ipanema, Leblon Termas will be closed until the end of Rio+20. Rio+20 has as high a international profile as the upcoming games according to my conversations with the Class A, laughing A's, and their circle. We'll see.[/QUOTE]There could be something to that. I have noticed that as I walk around the city, whether in Centro or Copa, Ipanema, etc, there is an increased number of parked police cars with the siren lights flashing, and 3 or 4 officers standing around. Interested to see if that will still be the case after this Rio+20 deal is over.

When 4x4 was shut down last year. 4x4 girls showed up at other termas, like MC. Will be interesting to see where the talent goes during the shutdown, especially if it does last through end of Rio+20. Cartman should be doing two duplas with MC girls a day for 100R!

[QUOTE=Mangera;1294593]There could be something to that. I have noticed that as I walk around the city, whether in Centro or Copa, Ipanema, etc, there is an increased number of parked police cars with the siren lights flashing, and 3 or 4 officers standing around. Interested to see if that will still be the case after this Rio+20 deal is over.[/QUOTE]

I was with my nephews yesterday and one of them is getting married next year. They told me they are thinking about going to Rio for the Bachelor party early next year. I know what I think of this but it's good to get ideas form knowledgeable people.

None of them have been to Rio before or traveled much outside the US.

They are in their early to mid 30's.

They party to the fullest with everything.

Should be a crowd of about 8 or 9 of them.

My feeling is that if this was 2005 with a little coaching should be no problem but in today's climate what do you think?

[QUOTE=Rani2206;1294553]Be careful, don't go to Lapa. My friend was involded in a fight with prostitutes and guys, while he was drinking alone they stolen jewels and money.[/QUOTE]
Thank you, I'll never go to Lapa again.
I have a friend that got robbed in Copacabana, should I avoid Copa as well? ;)

How the hell do all these idiots get robbed in brazil. I went to brazil about 10 times, Costa rica, tijuana, and haven't been robbed once. You people that get robbed are attracting attention or arent using street smarts. I just don't understand. Take cabs are subway everywhere. Don't walk where there are no people and look to see if you are being followed.

[QUOTE=Rani2206;1294553]Be careful, don't go to Lapa. My friend was involded in a fight with prostitutes and guys, while he was drinking alone they stolen jewels and money.[/QUOTE]I have a friend that got robbed in Copacabana, should I avoid Copa as well? ;)[/QUOTE]I've been to Lapa many times by myself at night without incident, because I don't get stupid drunk. If you follow common since anywhere, the likely of such incidents happening percentage wise is small. But if you do what your friend probably did, then he will get mugged in a kindergarten with 3 year olds.

And for you to come on this board with Rio vets and leave such a post is pathetic. Tell your friend to go some where safe like Washington DC near the White House! LOL! No maybe a safer war zone like near the Buckingham Palace, where the just found a body of a dead girl! There is nothing sinister about Lapa!

[QUOTE=Sperto; 1294639]Thank you, I'll never go to Lapa again.

I have a friend that got robbed in Copacabana, should I avoid Copa as well? .[/QUOTE]Co-worker of mine got robbed in a taxi here. Never taking taxis again.

[QUOTE=Rani2206;1294553]Be careful, don't go to Lapa. My friend was involded in a fight with prostitutes and guys, while he was drinking alone they stolen jewels and money.[/QUOTE]If he was involved in a fight with prostitutes in Lapa he likely pissed off some of the local Trannies. If so, he's lucky he still has his family jewels.

[QUOTE=Mangera;1294593]There could be something to that. I have noticed that as I walk around the city, whether in Centro or Copa, Ipanema, etc, there is an increased number of parked police cars with the siren lights flashing, and 3 or 4 officers standing around. Interested to see if that will still be the case after this Rio+20 deal is over.[/QUOTE]In the past weeks, I have observed the same. In my neighborhood, a squad of PM move through on a daily basis. At the entrada, there are soldiers posted. Also, there is an unusually high number of ships patrolling the waters.

[QUOTE=Mangera;1294593]There could be something to that. I have noticed that as I walk around the city, whether in Centro or Copa, Ipanema, etc, there is an increased number of parked police cars with the siren lights flashing, and 3 or 4 officers standing around. Interested to see if that will still be the case after this Rio+20 deal is over.[/QUOTE]In my many years to Rio I've always seen the same activity as described. Even before the MP went on strike, I saw the MP monitoring the MF. That's what a former military junta do. They patrol to keep the poor from rioting in criminal activity. You go to DR, Jamaica and any 3rd world country you will see mobilization or patrols. In Ipanema and Leblon you see civil police 3-4 deep. It's nothing to be alarmed about. As an American I'd go to the US State departments website for Brasil. You's see Colombia having advisory alerts and not Brasil. You guys worry about the wrong things on a sex board.

[QUOTE=Ipanema Carioca; 1294827]In my many years to Rio I've always seen the same activity as described. Even before the MP went on strike, I saw the MP monitoring the MF. That's what a former military junta do. They patrol to keep the poor from rioting in criminal activity. You go to DR, Jamaica and any 3rd world country you will see mobilization or patrols. In Ipanema and Leblon you see civil police 3-4 deep. It's nothing to be alarmed about. As an American I'd go to the US State departments website for Brasil. You's see Colombia having advisory alerts and not Brasil. You guys worry about the wrong things on a sex board. [/QUOT.

In all the years I have been visiting Rio, I have not seen the same activity as frequently. I never said I was worried, it was just an observation. BTW, these are observations I notice on the way to having sex, and on the way back from having sex.

Hi,

I was many many years ago in Rio when working on ship, and I would like to see the bars with the girls, are they still existing or closed?

It was possible to take the girl and go to nearby room.

Anybody know names etc? Is it safe anymore to go there?

On the other hand, are there similar clubs like in Germnay FKK clubs in Rio?

Cheers

Remember, the "Rio+20" international tree-hugging convention is going on right now. There are TONS of foreign heads of state and other high-ranking government officials in town for the convention. I'm betting A LOT of the added visible security is for them. Especially the patrol boats off the beaches as the convention is taking place at Ft. Copacabana.

[QUOTE=Riofan6;1295022]Remember, the "Rio+20" international tree-hugging convention is going on right now. There are TONS of foreign heads of state and other high-ranking government officials in town for the convention. I'm betting A LOT of the added visible security is for them. Especially the patrol boats off the beaches as the convention is taking place at Ft. Copacabana.[/QUOTE]The venu of Rio+20 is the Riocentro Convention Center in Baja Tijuca. The current event at Ft. Copacabana is a photograph exposition.

Are L, MC, T, and other Zona Sul Termas open?

[QUOTE=Riofan6;1295022]Remember, the "Rio+20" international tree-hugging convention is going on right now. There are TONS of foreign heads of state and other high-ranking government officials in town for the convention. I'm betting A LOT of the added visible security is for them. Especially the patrol boats off the beaches as the convention is taking place at Ft. Copacabana.[/QUOTE]

Last night I went to the grand opening of a new club called [B]Red Light[/B]. It is under the same ownership as that of Mosaico. I was invited to this club by a couple of my local Brazilian friends, ie there is no way I would have discovered this place on my own. Like Mosaico, this club is also located in the Praca Bandeira area. The address is [B]Rua Pereira de Almeida 73. Praca Bandeira. Rio, RJ[/B].

We arrived at the club at around 11 pm. The club has 2 floors, which are just rectangular shaped boites with a stripper pole in each boite. The first floor was empty so we proceeded upstairs to the 2nd floor. There were about 25 guys and only 6 girls when we arrived! I am not sure where the talent pool is coming from, probably Mosaico. They had a standard strip show every 20 minutes or so. I stayed at this club until 1 am and by then, there were about 15 girls and 30 guys. I couldn't find any girl worth sessioning and I would say only 2 of them were above an 8. One of my friends sessioned with a girl with a gigantic ass. He said she was an ex-pornstar but I don't remember the name he told me. It wasn't anyone famous like Fabiane Thompson, Monica Santhiago, etc. It cost him R$150 for one hour but he was up there for over 90 minutes. I guess on opening night, they weren't strict on time. He said the facilities were a little nicer than Mosaico and there was an ensuite shower in his room. I didn't like the environment here at all. It was soooo dark in there and the music was just incredibly LOUD. There was no way you could have a conversation with any girl! It reminded me of a darker, louder Termas 502. Ha. We thought about going to Mosaico afterwards, but then I asked him if it was just as dark at Mosaico and he said yes. So I said forget it, let's go to Lapa and have a beer which we did.

I'm not sure how much the entrance fee was, but I had one beer and left there paying R$8. So maybe it's R$8 and includes one free drink. I had a flyer that gave me 50% discount on consumption, but I forgot to use it. Then again, I didn't really consume much. Ha. I reckon over time this club will have more new girls working there. Either that or it is going to cannibalize the pool of girls at Mosaico resulting in fewer girls over there.

I attached an image of the club flyer.

[QUOTE=PatmarBeleza1;1295125]Are L, MC, T, and other Zona Sul Termas open?[/QUOTE]I just walked by Cent, and lights are off.

[QUOTE=Azn Safado;1295150]Last night I went to the grand opening of a new club called [B]Red Light[/B]. It is under the same ownership as that of Mosaico. I was invited to this club by a couple of my local Brazilian friends, ie there is no way I would have discovered this place on my own. Like Mosaico, this club is also located in the Praca Bandeira area. The address is [B]Rua Pereira de Almeida 73. Praca Bandeira. Rio, RJ[/B].[/QUOTE]Red Light used to be a puteiro, then it turned into a regular discotheque and now it has turned into a puteiro again.

[QUOTE=Harza; 1295015]Hi,

I was many many years ago in Rio when working on ship, and I would like to see the bars with the girls, are they still existing or closed?[/QUOTE]Florida Bar at Praça Mauá.

[QUOTE=HelpRules;1294653]How the hell do all these idiots get robbed in brazil. I went to brazil about 10 times, Costa rica, tijuana, and haven't been robbed once. You people that get robbed are attracting attention or arent using street smarts. I just don't understand. Take cabs are subway everywhere. Don't walk where there are no people and look to see if you are being followed.[/QUOTE]I am one of these "idiots". Got robbed at knife point on Avenida Atlantica near Copa Palace. I have walked all over Rio, at night, alone, never had a problem (many other cities, too, BTW). But eventually the odds caught up with me, I guess. The key is to minimize the damage and not get hurt. In my case the thieves got away with very little cash, but more importantly no credit cards. I had always been prepared for the mugging to happen and had taken precautions; no big deal, really. I was out and about again the following night, hunting for pussy.

[QUOTE=Euro100;1295549]I am one of these "idiots". Got robbed at knife point on Avenida Atlantica near Copa Palace. I have walked all over Rio, at night, alone, never had a problem (many other cities, too, BTW). But eventually the odds caught up with me, I guess. The key is to minimize the damage and not get hurt. In my case the thieves got away with very little cash, but more importantly no credit cards. I had always been prepared for the mugging to happen and had taken precautions; no big deal, really. I was out and about again the following night, hunting for pussy.[/QUOTE]I was in the same area and some trannies cam after me. I told in portuguese that I only fuck the ass of a woman and not a bitchman. Talking about stirring the pot. I always carry 2 Papermate pens in my cargo pockets. One on each side. They make great stabbing tools and either one of my hands has access for protection. Most of the thugs really don't want a confrontation, so a dummy wallet is always good. Toss the dummy wallet at them and their off and running to their favela. Maybe walking around Copa, Ipanema isn't safe, but watch you going to do, stay locked up while on vacation. Just stay where the public is and wear your old causal clothes to Rio. And even buy a few clothes in Brasil that you don't look like you brought your things from Park Ave. NYC.

[QUOTE=Ipanema Carioca;1295585]Just wear your old causal clothes to Rio.[/QUOTE]The "miserabilism" of most gringos is a subject of mockery (and often of disdain) among mid-to-upper class brasileiras. Don't know why one would have to dress like a slob when in Brasil. The upscale clubs in Ipanema or in Barra are filled with well-groomed locals. Girls dressed to the tens and wearing fancy jewelry, guys with designers shirts, stylish jeans and wearing expensive eye-catching watches, ect. I dressed in Rio as I dress in Paris, Moscow (in summer) or wherever, that is in "casual chic". Fuck the favelados. They will not prevent me to dress as I want.

[QUOTE=Prosal;1295654]The "miserabilism" of most gringos is a subject of mockery (and often of disdain) among mid-to-upper class brasileiras. Don't know why one would have to dress like a slob when in Brasil. The upscale clubs in Ipanema or in Barra are filled with well-groomed locals. Girls dressed to the tens and wearing fancy jewelry, guys with designers shirts, stylish jeans and wearing expensive eye-catching watches, ect. I dressed in Rio as I dress in Paris, Moscow (in summer) or wherever, that is in "casual chic". Fuck the favelados. They will not prevent me to dress as I want.[/QUOTE]Prosal,

I hear what you saying I too like to dress VERY well with style and class when I travel anywhere no matter what city or country it may be being that many people won't ever go to the USA and see different type of people from other parts of the world, I like to try to dress very well when I go overseas BUT then again I like to go to nice night clubs and private parties when I am in Brazil and deal with chicks that isn't from the Balcony Bar or hood rats. And order to get into nice clubs you have to be dress up. Many of the girls I have met and hook up with when I am in Rio were from off of Facebook and other social media outlets and most of them have commented on how much they liked and on how well I was dress on many of my pictures when I went to different events so I can't show up looking like a bum and not groom well LOL

I would also say and add if you only plan on running around going up and down stairs to at those private apts downtown and seeing and ONLY dealing with hookers and going to Termas and putting your clothes in those small ass lockers then there is no need to dress up and ruin your Sunday Best LOL and it won't matter how well you dress or how you look the ONLY thing they care about his your money in your wallet. BUT to have a chance of going to nice nightclubs and bars and meeting girls other then hookers or getting some free pussy many girls love to show off guys from other countries to their girlfriends at least that been the case with me BUT if you don't have anything to wear but bum looking clothes forget it and stay with going to the Termas no matter what level the Termas are Tier 5 to Tier 1 LOL.

IF you are a tall guy like me 6'5 or so the chances of buying off the rack clothes in Rio are really small or if you are a fat guy I guess there are some BIG boys stores around town because I have seen obese guys in Rio wearing ok looking clothes.

No matter how you dress or where you go you STILL have to have some street smarts and having a dummy wallet is always smart and good to have when you go overseas or even in some of your major cities here in the USA you have to have good street sense and by all means DON'T get drunk or wonder off in some dark street or be cheap and don't take a Taxi and try to walk at 4:00am. Or take back two hood rats to your apt. Or any hood rat for that matter and watch your drink at all times.

I have to be honest I have done some things over the years looking back in my younger days I shouldn't have done like walking around at all times of the night by myself ( I felt since I was tall and knowing how to fight and thinking I was a bad ass that no one could fuck with me) BUT I have a different background then many guys some of you guys know about my Navy background that I won't go into BUT as I get older I try to make smarter choices now in life...

Kid Cisco

[QUOTE=Kid Cisco;1295743]... BUT I have a different background then many guys some of you guys know about my Navy background that I won't go into...[/QUOTE]
Thank you.

It is not really the way you dress that attract the thiefs but the fact that they know that you carry money on you. This is why the crime called saidinha de banco is a plague in Brazil. When they see you retreiving cash from ATM you may be an easy target. Thiefs called from their cell phone accomplices waiting outside in order to tell them that you are carrying money. THis is the reason why, in São Paulo, cell phones are forbidden in banks or near ATM.

[QUOTE=Kid Cisco;1295743]And order to get into nice clubs you have to be dress up[/QUOTE]Totally agree. And Rio is not different than Buenos Aires, Moscow, Shanghai, Bucarest or Jakarta in that respect. Brasil, as all emerging countries where a whole stratum of the population has dramatically improved their lifestyle, is very much a class society, where people want to show (particularly by the dressing style) which class they are in. That said, to each its own, many guys here only "deal" with faveladas, so being dressed like a slob is not really important. But to say that in Brasil, you HAVE to dress "down" is simply silly. There is hundreds thousands of mid to upper class Brazilians who dress up to go out.

[QUOTE=Sperto;1295752]Thank you.[/QUOTE]Sperto,

You welcome lol BUT? Wow are you still reading my posts? I thought you skip over them and didn't waste or took your time to read them ? And I also thought and I HOPED you and anyone that couldn't understand or had a problem reading my post all had me on ignore? I guess that was hopeful thinking just having some fun with you .. LOL LOL

btw: OKC will beat the Heat tonight !!

Have a good day Sperto,

Kid Cisco

[QUOTE=Prosal;1295654]The "miserabilism" of most gringos is a subject of mockery (and often of disdain) among mid-to-upper class brasileiras. Don't know why one would have to dress like a slob when in Brasil. The upscale clubs in Ipanema or in Barra are filled with well-groomed locals. Girls dressed to the tens and wearing fancy jewelry, guys with designers shirts, stylish jeans and wearing expensive eye-catching watches, ect. I dressed in Rio as I dress in Paris, Moscow (in summer) or wherever, that is in "casual chic". Fuck the favelados. They will not prevent me to dress as I want.[/QUOTE]Dude, we said nothing about getting dressed. Why can't some of you guys stay on point. We're talking randomly walking around Rio, and not about social affairs and nothing about dressing like a slob. We're talking casual wear.

If I were going to a social event I, of course, would dress different. Damn! Like talking to women here sometimes.

Hey guys, I'm new here but been lurking around awhile. All my family is still in rip but I live in Chicago but as far as the closing of the termas which you all know by now, was talking to my dad who lives down there and he said its nothing to worry about. They been shut down before and reopened as someone in here said already. Hopefully this will be like other times and won't be a closed down forever! I was just there in February and met a hottie at cent and definitely want to go back to see her! LOL keeping fingers crossed! LOL

[QUOTE=Prosal;1295654]The "miserabilism" of most gringos is a subject of mockery (and often of disdain) among mid-to-upper class brasileiras. Don't know why one would have to dress like a slob when in Brasil. The upscale clubs in Ipanema or in Barra are filled with well-groomed locals. Girls dressed to the tens and wearing fancy jewelry, guys with designers shirts, stylish jeans and wearing expensive eye-catching watches, etc. I dressed in Rio as I dress in Paris, Moscow (in summer) or wherever, that is in "casual chic". Fuck the favelados. They will not prevent me to dress as I want.[/QUOTE]Your not Brasilian so why are calling anyone a gringo? Who are you to speak for the mid to upper Brasileiras? Are you self appointed spokesman? No your just a materialistic want to be Hopefully your in the wrong place at the wrong time with expensive eye catching watch and you get taken.

[QUOTE=UMadBro;1295811]Hey guys, I'm new here but been lurking around awhile. All my family is still in rip but I live in Chicago but as far as the closing of the termas which you all know by now, was talking to my dad who lives down there and he said its nothing to worry about. They been shut down before and reopened as someone in here said already. Hopefully this will be like other times and won't be a closed down forever! I was just there in February and met a hottie at cent and definitely want to go back to see her! LOL keeping fingers crossed! LOL[/QUOTE]Well Welcome,

You never know man you never know I NEVER thought I would see the day that Club Help would closed (but it did) after years and years of trying to close them down it happen so you never know just don't take things for granted (that is why I went down there for 3 weeks months ago). You just can't think things will still stay the same like they always been, hell back in the day it use to be 2. 4 reals to the dollars too and that have change there was a time you could get a hot girl for the night for 100 reals too NOW you have guys saying they want 200 reals for a hour LOL so you never know. Let's hope things will go back to the way they were. I just wouldn't count on it many girls in Rio have options now local guys getting better paying jobs making money being able to support their girlfriend and wives etc. Not many tourist going there like they use to. Many hot girls going overseas or having some older Trick taking care of them.

I just know and remember how sooo many Vets and people was saying Club Help would NEVER close so you just have to enjoy Rio and the Termas when you get a chance to go down there, as far as the hottie you met in Cent. Back in February unless you have her info like a phone number or e-mail address or Facebook info don't think you will go back there and see her again working at the same place these girls move around and stop working for months at a time you never can count on them being at the same spot. Months later. Hell there were times on this trip I would go to a place on a Monday and go back on a Wednesday and the girl would be gone. Just enjoy the girl that is in front of you that day and keep it moving.

Kid Cisco

Hit 502 tonight around 8pm. The Centro Ts are open all week despite the city itself having declared holidays Thursday / Friday for the Rio+20 conference (to lessen traffic). I was #78 so not that crowded. Saw 4. Count them. 4 doable girls, including the one I did. Sure there was a lot of junk but that's half the fun of 502, seeing what squeezes itself into a bikini LOL. R$20 entrada includes 3 beers or softdrinks. R$220 for an hour in a suite with a shower. Tends to be a long hour. Fun times. She was 21. I was not.

-Cartman

So l, see, mc still closed?

[QUOTE=Eric Cartman; 1295902]Hit 502 tonight around 8pm. The Centro Ts are open all week despite the city itself having declared holidays Thursday / Friday for the Rio+20 conference (to lessen traffic). I was #78 so not that crowded. Saw 4. Count them. 4 doable girls, including the one I did. Sure there was a lot of junk but that's half the fun of 502, seeing what squeezes itself into a bikini LOL. R$20 entrada includes 3 beers or softdrinks. R$220 for an hour in a suite with a shower. Tends to be a long hour. Fun times. She was 21. I was not.

-Cartman[/QUOTE]

Yeah I got her number. Hopefully its still on and hasnt been changed. I know girls move around alot and she actually told me she was going to be leaving the terma scene.

Soon. I plan on going back sometime in November. I think the club help closing was more due to drugs. Atleast thats what I heard from the locals. I've heard about 502 but never been there. Anyone care to describe it if its worth going? And where its at?

[QUOTE=Kid Cisco; 1295884]Well Welcome,

You never know man you never know I NEVER thought I would see the day that Club Help would closed (but it did) after years and years of trying to close them down it happen so you never know just don't take things for granted (that is why I went down there for 3 weeks months ago). You just can't think things will still stay the same like they always been, hell back in the day it use to be 2. 4 reals to the dollars too and that have change there was a time you could get a hot girl for the night for 100 reals too NOW you have guys saying they want 200 reals for a hour LOL so you never know. Let's hope things will go back to the way they were. I just wouldn't count on it many girls in Rio have options now local guys getting better paying jobs making money being able to support their girlfriend and wives etc. Not many tourist going there like they use to. Many hot girls going overseas or having some older Trick taking care of them.

I just know and remember how sooo many Vets and people was saying Club Help would NEVER close so you just have to enjoy Rio and the Termas when you get a chance to go down there, as far as the hottie you met in Cent. Back in February unless you have her info like a phone number or e-mail address or Facebook info don't think you will go back there and see her again working at the same place these girls move around and stop working for months at a time you never can count on them being at the same spot. Months later. Hell there were times on this trip I would go to a place on a Monday and go back on a Wednesday and the girl would be gone. Just enjoy the girl that is in front of you that day and keep it moving.

Kid Cisco[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Auriflama;1295864]Your not Brasilian so why are calling anyone a gringo? Who are you to speak for the mid to upper Brasileiras? Are you self appointed spokesman? No your just a materialistic want to be Hopefully your in the wrong place at the wrong time with expensive eye catching watch and you get taken.[/QUOTE]Auriflama. Since three full years you post here, you only have managed to fill up five pages of silly questions about Sao Paulo and controvertial BS. This without ever having been in Brasil (nor anywhere else I guess). Jesus Fucking Christ, take up a hobby! Go start a bottle cap collection or something, and please do not post again until you have actually been to Brasil. If this ever happens.

Rolleyes

[QUOTE=Prosal;1295654]The "miserabilism" of most gringos is a subject of mockery (and often of disdain) among mid-to-upper class brasileiras. Don't know why one would have to dress like a slob when in Brasil. The upscale clubs in Ipanema or in Barra are filled with well-groomed locals. Girls dressed to the tens and wearing fancy jewelry, guys with designers shirts, stylish jeans and wearing expensive eye-catching watches, ect. I dressed in Rio as I dress in Paris, Moscow (in summer) or wherever, that is in "casual chic". Fuck the favelados. They will not prevent me to dress as I want.[/QUOTE]You guys really don't get it. We are not saying if you are going to club Nuth, or that type of place, you dress in a tshirt and jeans. You can dress nice to go there because you will be TAKING A CAB there. You are not going to walk there. WE are talking about walking around copa, ipanema. 4x4, balcony area. You don't want to look rich. Period. If you were a nice watch and a nice suit or tie, you are a mark period. Your number will come up if you do it enough walking around those areas like that. If you are taking a girl club hopping to all the nice clubs, you can dress nice, since you will be cabbing it from front door to front door. That still doesn't mean wearing a Rolex.

Am hearing rumors from 'frequent shoppers' that Cent is to remain closed ('forever') and owner is in hiding. Anyone able to confirm? Don't want to fear monger, just reporting what colleagues here are telling me.

[QUOTE=Eric Cartman;1296209]Am hearing rumors from 'frequent shoppers' that Cent is to remain closed ('forever') and owner is in hiding. Anyone able to confirm? Don't want to fear monger, just reporting what colleagues here are telling me.[/QUOTE]Word from the manger at MC (which is open) was, in his opinion, it would in fact reopen post Rio+20. But nobody knows for sure. He said the dresses rule at MC would end after Rio+20 as well. After its last raid, MC has removed all the trashcans from the cabines and makes the girls carry condoms in paper wrappers (so they're not obviously condoms when / if you see them) at present, to deter a policia from (a) planting things and (be) seeing "evidence" in plain view.

Many girls from L and C now working at MC. This can cause some, ahem, angst if you previously tried to keep favorites separated at different houses. Think about that before you head to MC.

-Cartman

I speculate that this Rio+20 Zona Sul Terma Raid is the model for the World Cup and Olympics; that the 4x4 raid in late 2011 was a model for the current Rio+20 Raids. The Portugese Puritans (Class A Brazilians) are the investor class, bankers, lawyers, diplomats; they want the world elite in Zona Sul, including bond rating analysts, to not have MC, L, C and the other 12 clubs raided available within walking distance of Leblon Beach.

We'll see.

By July 1, it may be back to normal. Now they have a plan.

On the bright side, that new Terma, Red Light Club, out by Pra Bandera is opening at 5 PM (unlike Mosaico which only is worth going to at 2400) , it is much closer to high quality sex motels like Malaga and Gallant, and if you drill into the links on the reviews on the Brazilian boards has smoking Morenas with bundas like Mayara at 20ish. So, mongers may want to get smart on the Metro (Estacio or Sao Cristovao) stop, or (gasp!) the mini-bus.

[QUOTE=Eric Cartman; 1296241]Word from the manger at MC (which is open) was, in his opinion, it would in fact reopen post Rio+20. But nobody knows for sure. He said the dresses rule at MC would end after Rio+20 as well. After its last raid, MC has removed all the trashcans from the cabines and makes the girls carry condoms in paper wrappers (so they're not obviously condoms when / if you see them) at present, to deter a policia from (a) planting things and (be) seeing "evidence" in plain view.

Many girls from L and C now working at MC. This can cause some, ahem, angst if you previously tried to keep favorites separated at different houses. Think about that before you head to MC.

-Cartman[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=HelpRules;1296088]You guys really don't get it. We are not saying .[/QUOTE]Relax. I got the point BUT I elaborated about the fact that many many foreigners fill their suitcase solely with slob clothing when they go to Brasil, which is not only silly, but also rather insulting, like if the whole country was a vast shithole filled with favelados. The way gringos USUALLY dress is a running joke among mid-to-upper class brasileiras.

[QUOTE=HelpRules;1296088]That still doesn't mean wearing a Rolex.[/QUOTE]By the way, Brasil is now in the Top 15 market in the world for luxury watches, and if taxes were lower, this market would grow at a phenomenal rate because of the Latin American desire for luxury products. Many wealthy brasilians Do have a Rolex AND wear it, and not only for clubbing.

[QUOTE=PatmarBeleza1;1296255]I speculate that this Rio+20 Zona Sul Terma Raid is the model for the World Cup and Olympics; that the 4x4 raid in late 2011 was a model for the current Rio+20 Raids. The Portugese Puritans (Class A Brazilians) are the investor class, bankers, lawyers, diplomats; they want the world elite in Zona Sul, including bond rating analysts, to not have MC, L, C and the other 12 clubs raided available within walking distance of Leblon Beach.[/QUOTE]When I meet these types of guys in business settings they always are talking about hitting Ts like Cent, so I'm not sure. Same when we go to SP on business. I know a key Laughing A guy in Brazil and he's (a) married and (be) a complete horndog when he travels on business. I guess it's hard to generalize.

[QUOTE=Eric Cartman; 1296241]Word from the manger at MC (which is open) was, in his opinion, it would in fact reopen post Rio+20. But nobody knows for sure. He said the dresses rule at MC would end after Rio+20 as well. After its last raid, MC has removed all the trashcans from the cabines and makes the girls carry condoms in paper wrappers (so they're not obviously condoms when / if you see them) at present, to deter a policia from (a) planting things and (be) seeing "evidence" in plain view.

Many girls from L and C now working at MC. This can cause some, ahem, angst if you previously tried to keep favorites separated at different houses. Think about that before you head to MC.

-Cartman[/QUOTE]I was wondering why there was no trash can and the girl brought her own little "trash bag" to the cabine during my last MC session 10 days ago. That makes sense about the L and C girls needing to work somewhere, so they probably dispersed to work at MC or Solarium. I think I'll check out MC this Tuesday to see some new faces.

Puritans were hypocrites with economic motives, Massachusetts bay company.

Portugese puritans are hypocrites with economic motives, foreign direct investment and investment grade rating.

They don't mind gdp just cheap obvious gdp in clubs in the areas going upscale. I bet the centro prives and termas are untouched during world cup and olympics.

[QUOTE=Eric Cartman;1296413]When I meet these types of guys in business settings they always are talking about hitting Ts like Cent, so I'm not sure. Same when we go to SP on business. I know a key Laughing A guy in Brazil and he's (a) married and (be) a complete horndog when he travels on business. I guess it's hard to generalize.[/QUOTE]

Do anyone know of any Festas in Rio. Check the link.

[url]http://www.casadatiajoana.com.br[/url]

Thanks

Also, this class I refer to as Portugese Puritans also includes an increasing percentage of women. The daughters and granddaughters of the ultra rich who are collecting diplomas in America and Europe. They're likely the lawyers filling out the charge sheets on the owners of C.

[QUOTE=Eric Cartman;1296413]When I meet these types of guys in business settings they always are talking about hitting Ts like Cent, so I'm not sure. Same when we go to SP on business. I know a key Laughing A guy in Brazil and he's (a) married and (be) a complete horndog when he travels on business. I guess it's hard to generalize.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ChrisDrug;1296995]Centaurus price structure was beyond ridiculous. Their price structure was ridiculous. However, what's happening in Rio, I have no problem admitting that Balcony holds a world class title for the most outlandish ugly chicks in the entire known world. I'm so glad I'm hitting London next week and I'm glad I'm investing in buying 1 Br apartments in central London 280K next week which will give me US40k a year for life. In a way I feel sad for the old Rio but life is all about moving on.[/QUOTE]Good days in Rio are gone! São Paulo is much better now!

[QUOTE=Prosal;1296344]By the way, Brasil is now in the Top 15 market in the world for luxury watches, and if taxes were lower, this market would grow at a phenomenal rate because of the Latin American desire for luxury products. Many wealthy brasilians Do have a Rolex AND wear it, and not only for clubbing.[/QUOTE]Ok this is not the wall street journal or a pawn shop reality show. This is ISG act like you know whats going on one time. This constant praising for lowlife wealthy brasilians is pathetic and this obsession with materialistic objects is alarming.

Was in Rio for a couple days a week ago. Met a cute 21 year old named Deniza (Denise) at Balcony and saw her the next day as well. Great tattoo, good sex. Really responsive to oral.

[url]http://www.hotforum.com.br/forum_posts.asp?TID=3159&PN=17[/url]

Fechou pra sempre?

Rio+20 now over, yes?

[QUOTE=PatmarBeleza1; 1297490][url]http://www.hotforum.com.br/forum_posts.asp?TID=3159&PN=17[/url]

Fechou pra sempre?

Rio+20 now over, yes?[/QUOTE]Can anybody confirm that luomo is not still closed?

[QUOTE=Eric Cartman;1296209]Am hearing rumors from 'frequent shoppers' that Cent is to remain closed ('forever') and owner is in hiding. Anyone able to confirm? Don't want to fear monger, just reporting what colleagues here are telling me.[/QUOTE]I went to MC tonight and met a morena named Elle (or Helen?) who started working at MC today. She had worked at Centaurus for a year before it recently closed and I asked her when did she think it would reopen. She said "semana que vem", so she thinks it will reopen next week. She said she will return to Centaurus if and when it reopens. I don't know where she is getting her information from, so it could be just one working girl's opinion. She pointed out 5 other girls in the boite from Centaurus that are now at MC. I can't say they were very attractive, so it looks like the standards there aren't any better than other Zona Sul tier-1 termas.

Anyway, the talent wasn't to my liking so I didn't session. Just took the "R$80 shower" and left after 90 minutes. Ha.

[QUOTE=Auriflama;1297301]Ok this is not the wall street journal or a pawn shop reality show. This is ISG act like you know whats going on one time. This constant praising for lowlife wealthy brasilians is pathetic and this obsession with materialistic objects is alarming.[/QUOTE]Can I bump this? Leave the machinations of Anglo style Capitalism back in Anglo dominated countries. What does having a Flavor Flav's sized watch on your arm symbolize? Nothing but gaudy, outward projections of wealth.

Nauseating at the least, Class Warfare at the worst. Let's celebrate how rich I am by showing you just how rich, pathetic.

[QUOTE=Azn Safado; 1297648]I went to MC tonight and met a morena named Elle (or Helen?) who started working at MC today. She had worked at Centaurus for a year before it recently closed and I asked her when did she think it would reopen. She said "semana que vem", so she thinks it will reopen next week. She said she will return to Centaurus if and when it reopens. I don't know where she is getting her information from, so it could be just one working girl's opinion. She pointed out 5 other girls in the boite from Centaurus that are now at MC. [B]I can't say they were very attractive, so it looks like the standards there aren't any better than other Zona Sul tier-1 termas. [/B]

Anyway, the talent wasn't to my liking so I didn't session. Just took the "R$80 shower" and left after 90 minutes. Ha.[/QUOTE]The garotas are always moving from T to T. At any time you can find C girls at 4x4, Sol girls at C, etc. The last time I was in Centaurus more than 1/2 the chicas worked at Solarium. I remember thinking "why would I pay 400R to fuck someone I already did for 200R?"

Now C is out of my comfort zone pricewise.

Hello Guys,

I will have a 10 days off between 10-20 July. I consider to come to to Rio but I am confused after reading these closed Terma news.

Is it a good time to come there?

I am also curious about weather. Rain, too much hot or something else?

Actually if you have other recommendations I am ready to listen you.

I am looking for somewhere for a ten day holiday.

1) Cheap P4P and daily life, low hotel costs and other expenses.

2) Nice Sun and beach.

3) Big city (I don't want to spend time in a little village like Pattaya)

4) Great potential for Freebies.

5) Nice clubs, both like disco adult clubs terms etc etc.

I have been in Thailand, Russia, Chech Rep, so I eliminate these choices.

Philippines is also eliminated because I am not so much into short, child looking, dark skinned asians. (don't take it personal.)

Note; I live in Turkey so I will have a high flight ticket price but low daily life costs I think will compensate it.

Anyway at the end I can't decide.

Please help.

[QUOTE=LuvnLatinas;1297850]The garotas are always moving from T to T. At any time you can find C girls at 4x4, Sol girls at C, etc. The last time I was in Centaurus more than 1/2 the chicas worked at Solarium. I remember thinking "why would I pay 400R to fuck someone I already did for 200R?"[/QUOTE]I think before someone was saying "for the ambiance." Just like the old thing about the same girls from VM/centro casa going to Help before. Some guys don't like the VM/centro casa ambiance, so while I fucked her at VM/centro casa for 35R many would rather have waited until she went to Help to get her for 200R+. TEHO.

I decided to take a ride to Tijuca, and check out Anne Massagen. Decent line up, nothing special. I decided to take Manuela for a spin. 21 yr old Morena, nice tight body, great ass, small tits, decent face, has light eyes. She is some what cold at first, so speaking a little porto will help smooth things out a bit, at least it did with me. Very good performance, all positions, sucks great and will gargle your balls. She has a great asshole, its super clean, and neat. Just lovely, if thats your thing. She only knows two phrases in English."Fuck me", and "Thank you". I wish it were like that back at home as well. 90r for an hour. Very clean place and great service. Water and candy were offered in the waiting area. For whatever reason, they prefer you call beforehand to set up an appointment.

Last week, I decided to check out the lineup at Flavias for the heck of it. Little did I know, Raquel was working there now. SHe used to work at Bel Prazer and then Casa 19. She is now working for Carla at Flavias. She has put on just a little bit of weight, but she still has a good ass and big tits, and a fuck me face (Very important). I took her for the hour, cause she has always provided excellent service, she always gives me her all and her best. She does everything, and with pleasure. She can get down and dirty. She takes your whole cock in her mouth, and sucks like a champ. Plenty of spit and messy. Again. She always gives it her all. Not bad for 105R ($52US) for an hour. The bathroom in this place is outside the cabina. BTW, I am not familiar with performance or service, but they have a very nice lineup of garotas. I just went for the sure thing, cause I knew it was going to take a lot of work to get me to shoot my load on that day.

I'm in Rio for a week and have no Portguise, anyone interested to help guide me, yes, I read everything here.

[QUOTE=Balls Deep;1298627]I'm in Rio for a week and have no Portguise, anyone interested to help guide me, yes, I read everything here.[/QUOTE]I'd probably recommend monte carlo, stopped there last night and the talent pool was decent. Even got one to come back to the apt afterwards. Its on rua hilario de gouveia in copa. Most cabs will know where it is.

My Fellow Veterans of Brasil, I have scheduled a session with Mayara Shelson in the a few weeks. Has anyone had her and if so was she worth every penny? Her videos are great and that ass of hers is amazing but I do not believe everything I see on TV which is I why I scheduled a session with her.

[QUOTE=Nyc621;1298807]Even got one to come back to the apt afterwards.[/QUOTE]For free? Or what price? First time with her or repeat visits? All night or just a few hours. Deets man deets!

[QUOTE=Eric Cartman;1299035]For free? Or what price? First time with her or repeat visits? All night or just a few hours. Deets man deets![/QUOTE]Oh noooo. It was not for free but I had sessioned with her at centaurus last time I was in town and it happened to be her "first day"at MC. Her name is Erica and she's about 5'5 with a banging body. I'll pm you her number and her facebook link if you want. As for general prices I think the Rio+20 emboldened the gdp's to ask for ridiculous prices. Had a balcony chick try to ask for 500 last night. Crazy

This may relate to Rio's image makeover from sin city!

[url]http://youtu.be/o33Xv9t8HbU[/url]

[QUOTE=Ipanema Carioca; 1299107]This may relate to Rio's image makeover from sin city!

[url]http://youtu.be/o33Xv9t8HbU[/url][/QUOTE]I have been going to Brazil for about 12 years, and times have changed but I strongly believe after the World Cup and the Olympics are over things will come around. I have many friends who are Funk Promoters and they will always make money even if they have to go further in the favelas to have their shows. But it is safe to say for the next 4 years explore the other cities in Brazil because it's much more than Rio and Sampa. I had ventured over to Goiania, Fortaleza, Palmas e Belem and have enjoyed myself while spending a fraction of what I spend in Rio, Sampa e BH.

I had the good fortune to visit the all night outdoor cafe about five blocks north of the Copacabana Palace Hotel across from the beach, next to La Dolce Vita. This place is the bomb. Prostitutes for days in every shape and color, all night long. I met a way sexy stunning one with an awesome accomodating attitude, ridiculous perfect ass and legs, mini skirt and high heels. I negotiated 150. Reals ($75USD) and went to the Lindo Hotel two blocks away ($35. USD). Had the best sex of my life, the girl begged me to come in her ass, I obliged, most willingly. The great thing is you can really take your time and pick the best unit, no hassles at all. Copacabana is awesome.

[QUOTE=Balls Deep;1299203]I had the good fortune to visit the all night outdoor cafe about five blocks north of the Copacabana Palace Hotel across from the beach, next to La Dolce Vita. This place is the bomb. Prostitutes for days in every shape and color, all night long. I met a way sexy stunning one with an awesome accomodating attitude, ridiculous perfect ass and legs, mini skirt and high heels. I negotiated 150. Reals ($75USD) and went to the Lindo Hotel two blocks away ($35. USD). Had the best sex of my life, the girl begged me to come in her ass, I obliged, most willingly. The great thing is you can really take your time and pick the best unit, no hassles at all. Copacabana is awesome.[/QUOTE]It's nice to read that somebody can enjoy Balcony that much. Have fun.

That's what I am concerned about. The Portugese Puritans are going to succeed in inflating all commodity prices in the marvelous city. You have one UN conference where all the tree huggers from the departments of progressive thinking at universities from America and Europe muddle the waters.

[QUOTE=Nyc621;1299038]As for general prices I think the Rio+20 emboldened the gdp's to ask for ridiculous prices. Had a balcony chick try to ask for 500 last night. Crazy[/QUOTE]

For R150 she asked you to cum in her ass at Balcony! Did you check for an adam's apple. There are a lot of tranny's at Balcony, and for someone meeting a stranger asking for cum in the ass, might have been a tranny!

[QUOTE=Atkisnja;1299119]I have been going to Brazil for about 12 years, and times have changed but I strongly believe after the World Cup and the Olympics are over things will come around. I have many friends who are Funk Promoters and they will always make money even if they have to go further in the favelas to have their shows. But it is safe to say for the next 4 years explore the other cities in Brazil because it's much more than Rio and Sampa. I had ventured over to Goiania, Fortaleza, Palmas e Belem and have enjoyed myself while spending a fraction of what I spend in Rio, Sampa e BH.[/QUOTE]The problem with visiting other cities is there are no direct flights from US cities or hubs. Once you make a long flight to Brasil on a US carrier, you're not willing to transfer to a Brasilian domestic carrier to travel to a off the path Brasilian airport. Brasil has spent very little money in upgrading their airport system.

i read so many things on this and other forums which are flat out wrong. most comes from arm chair mongers sitting at home wishing that they still could afford to spend some time in rio.

what is going on in rio is pretty simple. the government (and it is the government not some religious group) needs to show the world that rio has changed or is in the process of changing and that they are in control. they started out by cleaning up the favelas which by most measures was successful. now they want to eliminate the most visible elements of prostitution. visible to the outside world, that is.

enjoy balcony, if you do, while you can. when the government puts all over the media that you support **** prostitution and drug dealing, they are sending a pretty clear message. if that message continues to be ignored it will just get stronger.

[QUOTE=Ipanema Carioca;1299378]The problem with visiting other cities is there are no direct flights from US cities or hubs. Once you make a long flight to Brasil on a US carrier, you're not willing to transfer to a Brasilian domestic carrier to travel to a off the path Brasilian airport. Brasil has spent very little money in upgrading their airport system.[/QUOTE]Have you ever been to a Brazilian regional airport or flown a Brazilian domestic carrier? I doubt it. I have flown on TAM, GOL, and Varig (when it existed) to Belo Horizonte, Curitiba, Recife, Salvador, Brasilia, Manaus, and Fernando de Noronha, not to mention Sao Paulo. The service on these domestic flights is not only equal to but better than what you would receive on a US domestic flight. E. G, you can still get a hot meal on a domestic flight, something long gone in the US, and there is no charge for baggage. As far as the airports go, the quality varies from city to city and I don't suppose there are objective criteria for assessing airports. Suffice it to say that the airports in Curitiba and Brasilia are gleaming modern airports, the equal of any in the US or western Europe. The others vary from adequate to weather-beaten, but so do some provincial airports in the US and Europe. So you really don't know what the fuck you are talking about.

[QUOTE=Ipanema Carioca;1299376]For R150 she asked you to cum in her ass at Balcony! Did you check for an adam's apple. There are a lot of tranny's at Balcony, and for someone meeting a stranger asking for cum in the ass, might have been a tranny![/QUOTE]Don't be so quick to criticize a new poster, Ipanema Carioca. Go back and read his post with understanding. She didn't ask him to cum in her ass at Balcony, they were in the Lido hotel. Check for an adam's apple? Gees if it was a tranny, don't you think a cock and balls would be apparent by the time he was fucking her and she asked for anal?

[QUOTE=Poucolouco;1299492]Don't be so quick to criticize a new poster, Ipanema Carioca. Go back and read his post with understanding. She didn't ask him to cum in her ass at Balcony, they were in the Lido hotel. Check for an adam's apple? Gees if it was a tranny, don't you think a cock and balls would be apparent by the time he was fucking her and she asked for anal?[/QUOTE]Maybe you should read and it would be common sense they did not fuck at Balcony! Is english your 2nd language or something? I know they went to the Lido Hotel!

[QUOTE=Lorenzo;1299474]Have you ever been to a Brazilian regional airport or flown a Brazilian domestic carrier? I doubt it. I have flown on TAM, GOL, and Varig (when it existed) to Belo Horizonte, Curitiba, Recife, Salvador, Brasilia, Manaus, and Fernando de Noronha, not to mention Sao Paulo. The service on these domestic flights is not only equal to but better than what you would receive on a US domestic flight. E. G, you can still get a hot meal on a domestic flight, something long gone in the US, and there is no charge for baggage. As far as the airports go, the quality varies from city to city and I don't suppose there are objective criteria for assessing airports. Suffice it to say that the airports in Curitiba and Brasilia are gleaming modern airports, the equal of any in the US or western Europe. The others vary from adequate to weather-beaten, but so do some provincial airports in the US and Europe. So you really don't know what the fuck you are talking about.[/QUOTE]Hey Lorenzo, I did all of that. You're not giving any new information. I stand by my statement. And if you know what part of the US where I live, then maybe you would have additional information to know my perspective. But since you don't know me and where I live, your reply to my post is even more ridiculous.

[QUOTE=Lorenzo;1299474]Have you ever been to a Brazilian regional airport or flown a Brazilian domestic carrier? I doubt it. I have flown on TAM, GOL, and Varig (when it existed) to Belo Horizonte, Curitiba, Recife, Salvador, Brasilia, Manaus, and Fernando de Noronha, not to mention Sao Paulo. The service on these domestic flights is not only equal to but better than what you would receive on a US domestic flight. E. G, you can still get a hot meal on a domestic flight, something long gone in the US, and there is no charge for baggage. As far as the airports go, the quality varies from city to city and I don't suppose there are objective criteria for assessing airports. Suffice it to say that the airports in Curitiba and Brasilia are gleaming modern airports, the equal of any in the US or western Europe. The others vary from adequate to weather-beaten, but so do some provincial airports in the US and Europe. So you really don't know what the fuck you are talking about.[/QUOTE]Hey Lorenzo, let me know if you want more evidence regarding the poor quality of Brasil's poor "air transport infrastructure".

"The chief of the International Air Transport Association or IATA sharply criticized the poor condition of Brazil airports, saying that the situation could put the South American nation in a very bad light during the World Cup and the Olympic Games if the government does not improve capacity and renovate aging infrastructure. IATA chief executive officer Giovanni Bisignani expressed his dissatisfaction at a conference of the travel industry held on Thursday in Panama.

'Brazil is Latin America's largest and fastest growing economy but air transport infrastructure is a growing disaster, ' Bisignani said at the Latin American and Caribbean Air Transport Association conference. 'To avoid a national embarrassment, Brazil needs bigger and better facilities for the 2014 FIFA World Cup and the 2016 Olympics. But I don't see progress and the clock is ticking, ' he said."

I'll be in town from 7/15-7/19. This is only my second trip and the first was even shorter, so I'm definitely a n00b in Rio. If anyone would like a partner in crime let me know.

I would like to hit the ground running (7/15 is a Sunday) so I'm trying to scope out the options for Sundays. I read on another forum that Solarium was closed this Sunday. Previously L'uomo and Solarium were both open Sundays, but now L'uomo is closed indefinitely and Solarium seems to be only Mon-Sat. Given I don't have a network in Rio, is an online escort the only way to go outside of Balcony Bar on Sundays? Is balcony even open Sundays?

Thanks

[QUOTE=Ipanema Carioca;1299376]For R150 she asked you to cum in her ass at Balcony! Did you check for an adam's apple. There are a lot of tranny's at Balcony, and for someone meeting a stranger asking for cum in the ass, might have been a tranny![/QUOTE]Not even close. I had to catch a TAM flight at 6AM on a Sunday morning during my trip last month. I went to Balcony around at Sat mid night when it was pumping. I already had a nice little programma with a Star Cris chick earlier. Concisely, I was in a hurry and picked up a nice young 22 why old for a full 2 hrs sexo including cum in HER ass for only R$100, at the Lido motel and she loved it. I had such a fulfillment from this last orgasm few hrs before flight that I didn't had an erection for the next 3 weeks after coming back in US. True story.

[QUOTE=Ipanema Carioca;1299515]Maybe you should read and it would be common sense they did not fuck at Balcony! Is english your 2nd language or something? I know they went to the Lido Hotel![/QUOTE]By the way Ipanema, English is a proper noun and should be capitalized. Here are your original common sense words.

[QUOTE=Ipanema Carioca; 1299376]For R150 she asked you to cum in her ass at Balcony![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Ipanema Carioca;1299378]The problem with visiting other cities is there are no direct flights from US cities or hubs. Once you make a long flight to Brasil on a US carrier, you're not willing to transfer to a Brasilian domestic carrier to travel to a off the path Brasilian airport. Brasil has spent very little money in upgrading their airport system.[/QUOTE]IC, I never had a problem connecting to domestic flights in Brazil. Since I am from the Greater New York Area I normally fly on TAM or AA. AA has direct flights to Fortaleza, Salvador, Recife, and BH. Their infrastructure may not be equal to the USA, but I was impressed. At the end of the day it depends on the individual, because if you are flying 8 or 9 hours for some PTA (Pussy Tits and Ass) I do not see the difference by adding a few more hours to explore other cities and garotas.

I don't fuck Trannies, I fuck vagina'a, and only ones attached to exceptionally pretty & sexy women. I don't post much but I'm a veteran mongerer and I'm a close friend of Jackson for many years. Only an inexperienced fool would take a fake woman and get the big surprise. When I'm balls deep, be sure it's in a woman.

I made the dealat4AM, the girl didn't want go home empty handed. She startedat250. And worked me for 45 minutes. I kept saying no thanks, not tonight, just looking, ext, typical negotiating skills to get her to invest time in me. After 45 minutes of tweaking her, I finally said if you do 150. I'll go for it, with a sigh of relief she happily complied, I got my price and I was balls deep in 15 minutes, love Brazil.

This website is to help fellow mongers succeed with chasing leg. We should only post so our brothers can be educated and have a better experience.

[QUOTE=Poucolouco;1299492]Don't be so quick to criticize a new poster, Ipanema Carioca. Go back and read his post with understanding. She didn't ask him to cum in her ass at Balcony, they were in the Lido hotel. Check for an adam's apple? Gees if it was a tranny, don't you think a cock and balls would be apparent by the time he was fucking her and she asked for anal?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Lorenzo;1299474]Suffice it to say that the airports in Curitiba and Brasilia are gleaming modern airports, the equal of any in the US or western Europe. The others vary from adequate to weather-beaten, but so do some provincial airports in the US and Europe. So you really don't know what the fuck you are talking about.[/QUOTE]+1. I'd add Belem to the list.

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[QUOTE=Atkisnja;1299680]IC, I never had a problem connecting to domestic flights in Brazil. Since I am from the Greater New York Area I normally fly on TAM or AA. AA has direct flights to Fortaleza, Salvador, Recife, and BH. Their infrastructure may not be equal to the USA, but I was impressed. At the end of the day it depends on the individual, because if you are flying 8 or 9 hours for some PTA (Pussy Tits and Ass) I do not see the difference by adding a few more hours to explore other cities and garotas.[/QUOTE]You see, my situation is different from yours Atkisnja. I got to fly from LAX to ATL then Rio. My First trip to Rio was from LAX AA, JFK TAM, Sao Paulo TAM, to Rio Tam, and Tam over booked their flight from SP to Rio delaying me 5 hours. Many trips later, I'm not doing that again. If I lived on the USA eastcoat or south east coast maybe a Brasilian connector wouldn't be so bad if I had a straight flight from the USA.

Has anyone hear of this place in Barra de Tijuca? Some girl I met has suggested that we go on a Thursday night. Anyone knows what kind of crowd, music, costs, safe, etc. Any info.

[QUOTE=Mangera;1299839]Has anyone hear of this place in Barra de Tijuca? Some girl I met has suggested that we go on a Thursday night. Anyone knows what kind of crowd, music, costs, safe, etc. Any info.[/QUOTE]Google is your Friend.

[url]http://www.barramusic.art.br/[/url]

I've never been, but from the website, it looks to be a BIG venue. Capacity for 6500, parking for 1400 vehicles per the site. Cost to get in going to depend on the act. Advance tickets cheaper. (Buy at your local record shop, remember those days?) And looks like they have all types of music. Open from 2330 to 0500hrs.

They even have a youtube channel:

[url]http://www.youtube.com/barramusicoficial[/url]

Let us know how it goes.

In an effort to get off the Airport channel: Read on another board that all Rio's termas, (zona sul and centro,) are now closed on Sunday. Can anyone on the ground confirm? Thanks in advance

Can I take the opinions from experienced mongerers?

Brasil will be double cost for me for flight ticket. I can only speak english?

And I am much more into Freebie Scene.

[quote=chrisdrug; 1299832]as a reminder, this is an international sex guide site. hello! i often post quickie reports just as i send text messages with colloquial speech. who cares about 3rd grade verb, noun rules on a working girl mongering sex guide site. i used to hear this sort of criticism from my ex university professor, an english literature ph. d holder, who occasionally disparage after grading our final drafts on dramas like oedipus, and hamlet. anyway, got to go catch a flight to london within few hrs. i got 4 to 5 hot young hottie scheduled to stop by my hotel every night for a completa and cim sexo. check out my upcoming anal loving gatas.[/quote]chrisdruggie, i don't make a practice of editing other member's posts and i don't give a rat's ass that you write like a 3rd grader. however when someone criticizes my english as did ipanema, he deserves to be corrected.

[quote=ipanema carioca;1299515]. is english your 2nd language or something?[/quote]

[QUOTE=Mangera;1299839]Has anyone hear of this place in Barra de Tijuca? Some girl I met has suggested that we go on a Thursday night. Anyone knows what kind of crowd, music, costs, safe, etc. Any info.[/QUOTE]I havn't been there myself yet, but I heard a lot of good reviews from friends.

Check it out and give us a report, please.

[QUOTE=Iceberg27; 1300021]Can I take the opinions from experienced mongerers?

Brasil will be double cost for me for flight ticket. I can only speak english?

And I am much more into Freebie Scene.[/QUOTE]Complete waste of your time to come to Brazil

FYI there is a brand new Ibis hotel opening in Copa between Rodolfo Dantas and R. Duvivier. It was built from ground up. Located very close to cardeal Arcoverde metrô and copacabana palace. Ibis generally has reasonable rates. I expect it to open in next 30-60 daya

[QUOTE=Iceberg27; 1300021]Can I take the opinions from experienced mongerers?

Brasil will be double cost for me for flight ticket. I can only speak english?

And I am much more into Freebie Scene.[/QUOTE]When I was a younger guy I went to Spain, Costa Del sol, women all over the place, great beaches, cheap. My hotel at the pool all the women were topless, I made my rounds finally met a beautiful German woman on holiday, still remember her till this day.

For those of you who are thinking of going to Rio, I just saw a price drop on tickets, I just bought one for the not too distant future for $730 RT on AA non-stop JFK GIG.

[url]http://www.bacctravel.com/[/url]

[QUOTE=Iceberg27; 1300021]Can I take the opinions from experienced mongerers?

Brasil will be double cost for me for flight ticket. I can only speak english?

And I am much more into Freebie Scene.[/QUOTE]If you only speak English you will have the same problem communicating in either location.

Hotels seem to be in a similar price range in both locations.

Air Fare from Istanbul to Barcelona about €750, Istanbul to Rio de Janeiro about €2500. €3000.

Approximate rate for outcall escorts €200 – 300 Barcelona.

[url]http://www.lomasprivee.com/escorts-barcelona[/url]

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1222-Classified-Ads&p=1290157&viewfull=1#post1290157[/url]

Approximate rate for outcall escorts R$ 130 –R$ 300 Rio de Janeiro (equivalent €50)

[url]http://www.scortshow.net/principal_pt.php[/url]

Barcelona ISG page reports club girls going at rates from €150. €200.

At Copacabana's Balcony bar independent putas go for about R$ 150 – R$ 200 (equivalent €60)

At Rio de Janeiro's Vila Mimosa are lower-priced girls at bargain prices of R$ 50 (equivalent €20)

As an experienced monger you should be able to negotiate the local references in either city. If you are getting it free it is a no-brainer, Barcelona. Note also there are a large number of Brasilieras in Barcelona. If you are more into pay for play, Rio de Janeiro may be a breakeven price point depending on the number of opportunities you have. Do the math.

[QUOTE=Iceberg27; 1300021]Can I take the opinions from experienced mongerers?

Brasil will be double cost for me for flight ticket. I can only speak english?

And I am much more into Freebie Scene.[/QUOTE]Use it for your research like the experts here who surely are going to trip over themselves offering you advice.

From actual personal firsthand experience, I have had great luck with non-pros in both countries. It helps if you carry yourself like a big picture CEO and not like a stuck in the petty details bureaucrat.

[QUOTE=Benjoe;1291784]I heard that Termas Aeroporto closed down and (possibly) reopened as a gay termas. By all means, please do some commando reporting.[/QUOTE]Recent intel suggests that Termas Aeroporto reopened as a gdp termas with a different name and with pricing similar to 4x4.

[QUOTE=Java Man;1299852]In an effort to get off the Airport channel: Read on another board that all Rio's termas, (zona sul and centro,) are now closed on Sunday. Can anyone on the ground confirm? Thanks in advance[/QUOTE]I went by both MC and Luomo and both were closed this past Sunday. Luomo still has the notice from the police about the raid.

[QUOTE=Acenva;1300239]I went by both MC and Luomo and both were closed this past Sunday. Luomo still has the notice from the police about the raid.[/QUOTE]Yeh, I went past Luomo tonight, Tuesday. Still has the police notice tacked to the door.

[QUOTE=Sperto; 1300103]I havn't been there myself yet, but I heard a lot of good reviews from friends.

Check it out and give us a report, please.[/QUOTE]After a short discussion, turns out I will be heading out to Lapa to go club hopping with my date. So I will not be going to Barra Music this week. However, I am going to try to go next week. If I go, I will certainly report. BTW, my close brazilian friends have not attended, but a few of their friends have, and said it is good depending on which night you go. Usually, its a different act, or DJ, or music, etc.

Ju Panteras has a nice looking lineup. However, Raquel was not up to par. Its not recommended that you just show up. You need to call ahead of time. They are a bit sloppy as far as being organized and being punctual, even if you do call ahead of time to schedule a garota. Their prices went up a couple of months ago to 120R for the hour. The cabina was somewhat small, and the ac units are very weak. Its just enough to get by now cause its not summer, but that place has to be a Oven in the summer. I have been in Rio for about a month and I still have not been to a Termas. I will probably be heading to 4 x 4 soon. Will report then.

His master's words:

[QUOTE=Exec Talent; 1300225].

From actual personal firsthand experience, it helps if you carry yourself like a big picture CEO and not like a stuck in the petty details bureaucrat.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Exec Talent;1117071].Self-promotion is the highest form of narcissism.[/QUOTE]

Chris, if you are worth 3 million, why are you on this site. I imagine you have regular girls at your fingertips in the US, and the rest of the world. In this economy there are alot of girls looking for a sugar daddy.

Thanks for your help but unfortunately I lost my chance for spain because of some f. Cking visa problems.

So my only option is Brasil because no visa problem.

Pouculuco you give me very useful information. And Eric I feel like you are too much pessimist.

Price ticket is about 1000 euro but it compansates with p4p costs.

It s very much possible to find yourself in a p4p bar or strip club after a few hours effort and nerve consumption in a freebie place like I did in Moscow last year.

And it s a pain in the ass after you get too many refusals in the freebie bar and don't want to pay 400 USD for one session and just wathc the stunners flirting with other rich customers in p4p club. (f. Ck you Aurora 911 divan and price politics)

So Rio can be a good choice.

Br.

A few pic to help educate the uninformed. These were taken in a stealth manner with my iPhone, sorry the quality is so poor, but, you'll get the idea.

[QUOTE=Iceberg27; 1300802]Thanks for your help but unfortunately I lost my chance for spain because of some f. Cking visa problems.

So my only option is Brasil because no visa problem.

Pouculuco you give me very useful information. And Eric I feel like you are too much pessimist.[/QUOTE]In that case I will eagerly wait for the high quality reports of your trip that I'm sure you will post to help out your fellow readers of the Rio board.

[QUOTE=Balls Deep;1300834]A few pic to help educate the uninformed. These were taken in a stealth manner with my iPhone, sorry the quality is so poor, but, you'll get the idea.[/QUOTE]Thanks a lot for the pictures of the Balcony's girls, I have just recognize just one girl (the last picture) , I will be in Rio in October (5th trip in 3 years!) , so again many thanks for the pictures.

[QUOTE=Iceberg27; 1300021]Can I take the opinions from experienced mongerers?

Brasil will be double cost for me for flight ticket. I can only speak english?

And I am much more into Freebie Scene.[/QUOTE]A little late, but just a suggestion for anyone faced with a similar dilemma. South America, and particularly Brasil (and especially Rio) , is such a whole different world, like a different planet. To live one's life without visiting is almost an omission.

Once you decide to do it, the p4p scene is pretty different too. High end to low end. And plenty of it. But without going into many paragraphs, I think the best reason to visit is to experience a culture that is so different, so refreshing, a major part of the planet that views the world we live in in rather an eye-openingly fresh new way. Just my tuppence. But it's a long haul flight from Europe and a bigger undertaking. And can be quite overpowering.

For a seriously big awakening, it's worth considering a double location. For instance, include Buenos Aires in the same trip to get another vastly different view on the world (plenty of very different p4p there too). Or visit one of Brasil's more remote regions that can really open the heart. Remember Brasil is big. Roughly the size of the USA!

Happy travels!

I was in Tijuca this past week, so I decided to go to Anne Massagens again. I took Camila in for a ride. She was very energetic to say the least. That is the good news. The bad news is they have now increased the price to 100R for an hour. Just a couple of weeks ago, it was 90R for the hour.

[QUOTE=Mangera;1301476]I was in Tijuca this past week, so I decided to go to Anne Massagens again. I took Camila in for a ride. She was very energetic to say the least. That is the good news. The bad news is they have now increased the price to 100R for an hour. Just a couple of weeks ago, it was 90R for the hour.[/QUOTE]Oh It look like these hole in the wall places that use to be off the radar to guys that normally go to the Tier 1 Termas see that many of these higher cost Termas are closing down so they see a chance to increase their prices well I can't hate on them for trying to make some money the more other Termas close down I can see prices going up all over town for the ones left open. When you don't have options prices goes up I guess? .

Kid Cisco

[QUOTE=Sangue Bon; 1300182]For those of you who are thinking of going to Rio, I just saw a price drop on tickets, I just bought one for the not too distant future for $730 RT on AA non-stop JFK GIG.

[url]http://www.bacctravel.com/[/url][/QUOTE]I always found airfares interesting and how they can change weekly and sometimes daily. Last week I bought that ticket for $730 today it is $1077, almost a 48% increase. Now I have to get an apartment and nobody wants to negotiate, prices are high, lets see if they break as the day gets nearer.

[QUOTE=Christopherd; 1301373]A little late, but just a suggestion for anyone faced with a similar dilemma. South America, and particularly Brasil (and especially Rio) , is such a whole different world, like a different planet. To live one's life without visiting is almost an omission.

Once you decide to do it, the p4p scene is pretty different too. High end to low end. And plenty of it. But without going into many paragraphs, I think the best reason to visit is to experience a culture that is so different, so refreshing, a major part of the planet that views the world we live in in rather an eye-openingly fresh new way. Just my tuppence. But it's a long haul flight from Europe and a bigger undertaking. And can be quite overpowering.

For a seriously big awakening, it's worth considering a double location. For instance, include Buenos Aires in the same trip to get another vastly different view on the world (plenty of very different p4p there too). Or visit one of Brasil's more remote regions that can really open the heart. Remember Brasil is big. Roughly the size of the USA!

Happy travels![/QUOTE]First of all thanks to all mongerers pay attention to my questions. Since last week I have made a lot of research in ISG. If I had done that much work on physics I could have get easily a Ph. D. But anyway.

In my opinion Brasil is really worth to try once in a life for those close to Brasil who lives in USA for example or people who can speak basic spanish.

I am not sure so many people can speak english there in Brasil. But for example Malta or Spain has many German, Norwegian, English. Etc etc tourists who came this close destination for a short beach and sun vacation.

Moreover English speaking percentage beneath local people must be higher than Brasil.

So I think if someone like me who can only speak english and live in Europe, and not so much into P4P scene, must choose Spain first and secondly Malta.

Of course I am curious about which is easier for a one night stand? A drunk German or Irish in Spain nigth clubs or a Brasilian in Rio?

I think women on a short vacation much more into to have a one night stand than who is primarily look for a more serious relationship in her hometown.

So Spain gets another plus from this point of view. Also Malta is an international English Learning Center for all world. There are thousands of students there who just came there for studying.

And another personal point of view. I spend a lot of time in Forum's Photo Gallery section and I decided I am not into Dark Skinned a little bit fat Latin Women. I am much more into Blondes and athletic bodies.

I am considering Odessa and Nikolayev since yesterday because no visa problem but I am also a bit indecisive because of shark and piranha stories in there.

I was in Kyev and Kharkov two years ago and guess what?

I get back to my apartment from a busy night club for two nights in Kharkov. It's a pain in the ass. Because very few of them can speak english and if you think I am so clumsy I must tell you that just after one year I scored in Moscow and Thailand easily.

That's all. I am open for your opinions. Just wanted to share my opinions.

BR.

Hello all.

Looks like this is going to be a quiet Sunday. The beach is empty and rain and windy.

Any recommendations to spend the afternoon and evening?

With MC and L still closed I really don't have other resources.

[QUOTE=Iceberg27; 1301727]And another personal point of view. I spend a lot of time in Forum's Photo Gallery section and I decided I am not into Dark Skinned a little bit fat Latin Women. I am much more into Blondes and athletic bodies.

That's all. I am open for your opinions. Just wanted to share my opinions.

BR.[/QUOTE]Brazil is a country of immigrants, different bloodlines in the north and different bloodlines in the south. The south has more European types likes Poles, German and Italians. I have similar tastes in women like you do too and in Rio you can find them all, as a sample just take a look:

[url]http://www.barravipsrio.com/[/url]

Just dropped by L'Uomo. The place is still closed. There was some police paper attached to the door having 16/06/2012 on it. Might be the date when they renewed the seal.

[QUOTE=Sangue Bon; 1301808]Brazil is a country of immigrants, different bloodlines in the north and different bloodlines in the south. The south has more European types likes Poles, German and Italians. I have similar tastes in women like you do too and in Rio you can find them all, as a sample just take a look:

[url]http://www.barravipsrio.com/[/url][/QUOTE]Has anyone had a girl from barravipsrio? Was looking around and they have some dime pieces there! I just been to the termas and never tried and escort service. Any suggestions?

[QUOTE=Sangue Bon; 1301808]Brazil is a country of immigrants, different bloodlines in the north and different bloodlines in the south. The south has more European types likes Poles, German and Italians. I have similar tastes in women like you do too and in Rio you can find them all, as a sample just take a look:

[url]http://www.barravipsrio.com/[/url][/QUOTE]I am really impressed.

Maybe I shouldn't take an idea by looking Forum's photo gallery section.

Any multimedia resource like this will be very much appreciated.

Best regards.

The key is doing research on gpguia. Net and hotforum. Com. Br.

Just on hotside. Com. Br, I count 5 'scorts I've had.

Mariana Veloso.

Carolina Diniz.

Eva (who is Roberta Salles)

Thamy Moricet (who had the same name at karla models and scort show)

Monique Mattos.

Out of those, the best by far is Roberta Salles, who has great reviews on the Brazilian websites.

Monique has great deep throat (garganta profunda) skills, and good anal.

Mariana is ok.

Tammy is ok.

Carolina, no repeat from me.

Mirella Martins reviews are top rate, and you can probably get her at Red Light Club a new pseudo terma.

Kendria has pretty good reviews.

Marcela Ferraz is like 19, and was on jupanteras earlier this year; coulda had that for 100R now it's 300R and the reviews are bad.

Ditto, rafaela Rossi.

Carla Mulata long time good reviews.

Gaya good reviews, but not doing anal anymore, used to be a 4x4 girl (ariane?)

[url]http://hotside.com.br/acompanhantes-garotas-de-programa-rio-de-janeiro-rj.html[/url]

Is the board with more girls who have more frequent reviews on the Brazilian boards.

[QUOTE=UMadBro;1302169]Has anyone had a girl from barravipsrio? Was looking around and they have some dime pieces there! I just been to the termas and never tried and escort service. Any suggestions?[/QUOTE]

[url]http://www.riosexsite.net/[/url]

Is another well done, upscale scort site.

Of the girls up there, I have had Marianna Villar when she was Samara Fernandes. She was great. 5 anals, came in her mouth twice in 2 hours back in December 2008, and repeated several times in 2009. She's from Niteroi, and a very upscale, Morena Clara, classy looking girl.

There was another up there, Fabia Gouveia, but she's not on that board anymore. Now, she's Gigi, one of the hostesses at Club 65 terma in centro. She's gone into bunda management, but I think you can still get her for top dinero. She's worth it. I had a mini-relationship thing going with her for a while, which was fun.

Elisa, who is up on that riosexsite board, was a belprazer girl or centrosuzy girl for 100R at the beginning of 2012. Again, rather have her for 100R at centrosuzy than 300R on riosexsite.

Same thing with Sheron, who is that 19 year old who was up on Ju Panteras at the start of 2012. Rather look out on the prives and have girls like her for 100R when they are in the minor league than to pay up 300R when they are in the major league freelancer boards, that is, riosexsite, hotside, and barrasviprio.

[QUOTE=UMadBro;1302169]Has anyone had a girl from barravipsrio? Was looking around and they have some dime pieces there! I just been to the termas and never tried and escort service. Any suggestions?[/QUOTE]

Which Brazilian board do you guys suggest for reviews of terma girls? I'm specifically looking for morena popozuda types at any of the tier 1 termas.

[QUOTE=IronAss;1301840]Just dropped by L'Uomo. The place is still closed. There was some police paper attached to the door having 16/06/2012 on it. Might be the date when they renewed the seal.[/QUOTE]I got word from a friend of mine who owns a bar across the street from Luomo, and he said that the closure of Luomo and other spots were, as many suspected, tied to the Rio+20 BS. But he is not sure when it will open and he doesn't understand why the places were closed because he's sure Rio+20 people don't know what a terma is, or don't have first hand knowledge. Therefore, Brasileiros are just as confused as we are about the closures. And he said Rio will not lose it's sexual flare for the orld Cup or Olympics, for the visitors will be in Rio for a different purpose, and patrons of termas should speculate or panic. Visit his bar it's directly across the street, and they have great food. But if Luomo is closed when I get there, I doubt if I'd be drinking there.

Well, I've been to T65 last night: More guys than girls, and quality was poor, according to my tastes. Many patatas with big bundas, and vulgar look. I stayed 5 mn, and payed 90R$ para nada.

Then Cancun: better because there was a samba band playing. But no atmosphere. Not even one girl was dancing! 10 mn later: out and paid 50R$ para nada again.

Then I finally came back to 4x4, as usual, and end up there. Few really stunners, and average very good quality. Girls there are fun, and cool. I love this boite. All colors available, and nice shapes. People friendly and they take Visa card at no charge.

You only stayed 5 minutes? You have to give it at least 90 minutes to see all the girls rotate through, the hottest ones are usually in the room getting it on.

BTW, it is not para nada, it is por nada.

[QUOTE=Namasteparis;1302836]payed 90R$ para nada.[/QUOTE]Usually I at least take a shower.

Actually the steam room at 65 is not well known but is very cool / legal. Worth a look next time. Especially to amortize your entrada.

[QUOTE=Bubba Boy; 1302977]You only stayed 5 minutes? You have to give it at least 90 minutes to see all the girls rotate through, the hottest ones are usually in the room getting it on.

BTW, it is not para nada, it is por nada.[/QUOTE]Hi Bubba, and honoured that you replied! I've your all report printed besides me, and I nearly know it by heart. Very useful, and 1000 thanks again.

I went to try this afternoon for massages, at dudas and belprazer. But it was nearly 6pm, and I guess it was over, 'cause choice waspoor (4-5 girls max) , and quality also. It seems that I'm quite choosy, or is it that quality is going down. Got used to models.

I finally ended up once again at 4x4. My best choice: Funny, the black nympho, Baby the charming blond, and Nick the 'better than' Beyoncé. The two first are GFE garanteed, the latter has baby+man: no outside activity possible.

Tonight, I'll try Barbarella disco (again according to your report). Is there another good disco in Rio, with classy chicks available, even pricy?

I was in Centro a couple of days ago around 3 pm. I decided to to the walk up the stairs. I have not been there since last year. I am nort heavier than last year, but for some reason that stairway seems more narrow than before. I may have been there at a bad time, maybe a bit early I guess. There were about two girls per floor, except for the second floor, it had about 5 girls. I went to the very top, and I did not see anything interesting at all. I did ask a couple of girls for pricing, and I all I remember is 40r for 30 minutes. It used to be 30r for 30 minutes during my past experiences there. I saw a little person, her name was Bia (2nd level or floor). She was very energetic and dancing off the walls, and climbing all over me. I must admit, I was tempted to take her for a spin only because she was a little woman (midget) , and I have never down one before. However, I was not drinking heavily and I decided not to do her :) Bottomline, I was very dissapointed with BA 85 on that day. I will give it another shot sometime next week.

[QUOTE=Namasteparis;1303033]Tonight, I'll try Barbarella disco (again according to your report). Is there another good disco in Rio, with classy chicks available, even pricy?[/QUOTE]I regularly get a photo catalog by an agency that has models, TV dancers, playboy chicks, etc.

Pricing starts at about R$ 1000. Amazingly, the girls are said to be great performers. One other super expensive madam once said: if you charge 500 dollars you better perform or I will not recommend you any more.

Rich Brazilians are demanding. Part of the pay is so they can tell their friend: look this girl on the screen, I fucked her. But they still want performance. Yes, there are Brazilians that pay R$ 5000 for a girl. They don't know what to do with their money.

[QUOTE=PatmarBeleza1; 1302327][url]http://www.riosexsite.net/[/url]

Is another well done, upscale scort site.

Of the girls up there, I have had Marianna Villar when she was Samara Fernandes. She was great. 5 anals, came in her mouth twice in 2 hours back in December 2008, and repeated several times in 2009. She's from Niteroi, and a very upscale, Morena Clara, classy looking girl.

There was another up there, Fabia Gouveia, but she's not on that board anymore. Now, she's Gigi, one of the hostesses at Club 65 terma in centro. She's gone into bunda management, but I think you can still get her for top dinero. She's worth it. I had a mini-relationship thing going with her for a while, which was fun.

Elisa, who is up on that riosexsite board, was a belprazer girl or centrosuzy girl for 100R at the beginning of 2012. Again, rather have her for 100R at centrosuzy than 300R on riosexsite.

Same thing with Sheron, who is that 19 year old who was up on Ju Panteras at the start of 2012. Rather look out on the prives and have girls like her for 100R when they are in the minor league than to pay up 300R when they are in the major league freelancer boards, that is, riosexsite, hotside, and barrasviprio.[/QUOTE]Same for me. Never got a girl from barravipsrio (actually twice in 10 years). I get them BEFORE they are on barravipsrio. More modest, younger, fresher, less seasoned, and cheaper. But more work.

For those who just arrived in Rio, here is a resume:

The following ZONA SUL tier 1 termas are closed: L'Uomo, Centaurus, and MonteCarlo. Since decades, I heared about Centaurus, and it closed only few months ago: that sucks!

Among the Centro termas, I tried T65, Cancun, and 4x4. According to my preferences (model-type: very nice face, nice shapes, slim and no grease, classy attitude) , I rank 4x4 first, then Cancun.

I tried also massages Duda and BelPrazer, but definitly did not matched my taste.

Today is cloudy, so the program of the day is at least Solarium, T502, and Barbarella tonight. I'm still looking for a cute stunner to spend the week-end with, most probably at Copacabana Palace, if she looks great. Price is not my first concern, as I'm here to have fun, and worked for that. Any suggestions for a cool place packed with model-type will be appreciated.

Gentlemen,

I am a Canadian who is living in Sao Paulo but who hope to visit Rio soon. In the Sao Paulo section of this site, a member put up a google map version of where the prives, boites and clinicas were. Is there such a thing in the Rio section?

If not, how do I find out the location of some of the places that you mention in your posts?

Thanks,

Jim

Made a visit, it was odd to see that the line up consisted mainly of very thin garotas. I did not choose any, and the price is still 90r for an hour. Just a few blocks away, Anne Massagens raise their prices a couple of weeks ago to 100R for an hour.

I went to X Y Zen which is about a block away from Anne Massagens. You have to walk into the garage straight ahead (you will see a sign hanging from above with an arrow pointing to stairs and Sala 114) , then make a right, go to up and right on the 2nd floor is sala 114. Ring the bell. I was not impressed at all with either the establishment or the lineup. By far and away the worst lineup I have seen in Rio. Old, fat, ugly and tired looking garotas. The only one that looks doable, and looked good in tight jeans was Amanda. But even she looks a little worn down. I would do her, but with so many more options in Rio, I am saving my leite to gozar with another woman. I actually thin there were better looking ladies in Buenos Aires 85 as compared to this place. That will give you an idea of what the deal is. But hey, different strokes for different folks, so give it a shot, you never know.

On my last report of the Prives in Tijuca, I forgot to mention a couple of things. First off, there is a place accross the street from the Praza right outside the metro exit which has very well priced chopps for 2r. That was a promocao, but hey, it was a great deal. So somethings are cheaper away from Zona Sul. Secondly, in my opinion, there are many fine looking ladies walking down the street in Tijuca. There are always good looking women regardless where you go on this planet, but I was surprised at the amount of attractive looking ladies. I met one right outside McDonalds, at the sundae stand. She was a blonde in her bussiness attire, we chatted for a while and she was giving hints for me to ask for her number. I didn't bite, because my right now my plate is full with another gal I am seeing in between my adventures visiting different prives. If I lived in Rio, I would definitely take more strolls in that neigborhood.

Did you see perola dias at mix.

[url]http://www.mixmassagem.com/peroladias/index.htm[/url]

Or juliana at xyzen.

[url]http://www.xyzen.com.br/juliana/index.htm[/url]

?

[QUOTE=Mangera; 1303317]Made a visit, it was odd to see that the line up consisted mainly of very thin garotas. I did not choose any, and the price is still 90r for an hour. Just a few blocks away, Anne Massagens raise their prices a couple of weeks ago to 100R for an hour.

I went to X Y Zen which is about a block away from Anne Massagens. You have to walk into the garage straight ahead (you will see a sign hanging from above with an arrow pointing to stairs and Sala 114) , then make a right, go to up and right on the 2nd floor is sala 114. Ring the bell. I was not impressed at all with either the establishment or the lineup. By far and away the worst lineup I have seen in Rio. Old, fat, ugly and tired looking garotas. The only one that looks doable, and looked good in tight jeans was Amanda. But even she looks a little worn down. I would do her, but with so many more options in Rio, I am saving my leite to gozar with another woman. I actually thin there were better looking ladies in Buenos Aires 85 as compared to this place. That will give you an idea of what the deal is. But hey, different strokes for different folks, so give it a shot, you never know.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=PatmarBeleza1; 1303326]Did you see perola dias at mix.

[url]http://www.mixmassagem.com/peroladias/index.htm[/url]

Or juliana at xyzen.

[url]http://www.xyzen.com.br/juliana/index.htm[/url]

?[/QUOTE]Yes, I specifically remember Julianna cause she was the only mulatta in the bunch. She had a bit of a gut as compared to the picture on the site. She is not fat, but I noticed it. Also, I did not find her face attractive. As for Perola at Mix M, she was thinner than her pictures on the site. Almost flat chested as well. That being said, she has a nice looking face. I can't comment on either one of them as far as service in concerned because I did not stay for action.

[QUOTE=JimMorison; 1303304]Gentlemen,

I am a Canadian who is living in Sao Paulo but who hope to visit Rio soon. In the Sao Paulo section of this site, a member put up a google map version of where the prives, boites and clinicas were. Is there such a thing in the Rio section?

If not, how do I find out the location of some of the places that you mention in your posts?

Thanks,

Jim[/QUOTE]Hi, Jim. This map is called. I do not know why. * map. As I read it includes places in Sao Paulo, Rio and Belo Horizonte. If you understand some Portuguese, please go to.

[url]www.gpguia.net[/url]

It is a generous service like this site and the attenders frequently update it with their experiences. Go to Rio de Janeiro section.

[QUOTE=JimMorison; 1303304]Gentlemen,

I am a Canadian who is living in Sao Paulo but who hope to visit Rio soon. In the Sao Paulo section of this site, a member put up a google map version of where the prives, boites and clinicas were. Is there such a thing in the Rio section?

If not, how do I find out the location of some of the places that you mention in your posts?

Thanks,

Jim[/QUOTE]You can download bubbaboy's Rio guide for starters. It doesn't have all the prives but it is a start. It has its own thread in the Brazil section

SO I took the metro to Cinelandia, and walked on to 13 de Maio. 33. I called ahead of time to find out the number of the sala, it was 2414. So I get to the building, and get in line to get in the elevator. There about 15 people ahead of me. Those damn elevators take forever and they are not that big. I kif you not, I waited about almost 15 minutes for the people ahead of me to take their trip, and then I took mine. When I did get in, I understood why it took forever. Extremely slow. The woman attending the mangaging the elevator was pressing all sorts of buttons, and they would not light up. I look up and realize that it only goes up 21 floors. I am wondering about floor 24. Oh well, I am the only one getting out on floor 21. I look for the stairs, and up I go for the next 3 flights. I find it next to a lawyers office which has the door open and people inside chatting. Oh great, I am sure they know there is a working girl house next door. I knock on the door, and a cute gal answers the door, and expalins the prices (Basically the same as most places in Centro, e. G. 100r for an hour). It was rather warm in there. Only one garota available, it was Samanta (Solid rock hard body blonde, she must workout, but her face turned me off). I read a couple of reviews on her in gpguia, and it was a no go. So the gal in the front was not part of the menu, but she said 3 grils would be comming out soon. I waited a few minutes, and asked how long. She said in 5 minutes. 5 minutes in brazil is equal to 15, so I took off. As I walked down the 3 flights, and got inside the elavator on the 21st floor, all I could think on the ride down was. God forbid there is ever a fire in that building while I am there. Maybe I will check out next week and get a better look at the lineup. There are suppose to be 3 new additions to the line starting on Monday according to the receptionist.

Back from several days in Sao Paulo on biz. Put up 3 reports in the SP thread.

–Cartman

FYI: Bitchmaps, which used Google to geo map Brazil's termas, prives, spa's etc is apparently no more. Got this message when I visited the site:

[url]http://bitchmaps.com/[/url]

Este domínio encontra-se desativado.

This domain is deactivated

Fortunately, I saved bitchmaps KML file in my Google earth and can see all the info there.

[QUOTE=PatmarBeleza1; 1302322]The key is doing research on gpguia. Net and hotforum. Com. Br.

J.

Mirella Martins reviews are top rate, and you can probably get her at Red Light Club a new pseudo terma.[/QUOTE]Can you say a little more about the pseudo terma Red Light Club? Where, how much and how "pseudo". There must be places popping up with some of the majors being closed. Not always easy to find. Thanks.

Just an update on terma closures. Some of this is based on rumor. Some is based on fact.

Facts: Stopped by Centaurus on Friday, expecting it to be closed. It was. It still has a sign posted on the door saying it is closed pursuant to such and such law. Monte Carlo is not closed. A few girls from Centaurus went there, but not many. Was there Friday and Saturday. Balcony and the attached Dolce Vita are still open.

Rumors based on direct statements from people who used to work there: First, L'Uomo appears to be closed for good. Girls were told last week to come by and pick up any personal belongings they had in their lockers and that it would not re-open. I don't know about this last part, but they were told to come by and pick up their personal effects.

Rumor: Centaurus was closed, at least in part, for not paying off the local cops properly. The press reports say that R$300, 000 was seized. One of the owners says it was around R$600, 000. Some former C girls are saying it will open again in a few weeks, but that rumor has been ongoing for weeks. The failure to pay local cops properly seems like it could be true, particularly in light of the fact that they raided many Ts and only a few were shut down, with no further raids since then.

That's all I've got. Take the rumors with a grain of salt.

Are gigolos that cater to females as widespread throughout Brazil as female prostitution is? I was talking to a friend from Sao Paulo last night. I have known her for at least 4 years and she has always been very conservative. However last night she was saying how she hasn't had sex in 4 years. I asked her about using toys and she was adamant against that, but surprised me when she offered up that she was thinking of hiring a gigolo. R150-R250 / hour. Compare that to 4X4. :

R: disse q sou diferente. Nunca me imaginei usando essas coisas. Acho q prefiro contratar um cara para transar. Assim e melhor.

R: mas vc iria ficar tranquilo comigo usando isso. Ja q e assim prefiro contratar um cara sarado para transar. Sabe q gostei the ideia contratar um cara. Acho q vou fazer isso logo.

Mr E: como? Contratar alguem?

R: sim.

Mr E: de onde?

R: aqui tem varios sites

Mr E: quanto custa?

R: acho que e um pouco mas q as mulheres vou ligar para saber.

Mr E: liga. Eu quero saber.

R: ta bom vou olhar aqui.

R: 150, 00 a 250, 00.

Mr E: porra. E caro nao e? Por 1 semama ou 1 mes? Rs.

R: por hora. Mas se ficar fixa ele faz mas barato

Just arrived to Rio de Janeiro.

Hadn't been here for a couple of years. And boy, this got fuckn expensive.

The taxi, the phone, the supermarket. Everything!

Just passed by the Montecarlo at Hilario de Gouveia and it seems open. I'll stop by later.

Women don't have to pay for sex, and if they do, they are really ugly. Male gigolos are for gay guys. Talk to anyone that owns a escort business, and they will tell you its for gay men. BTW, Why don't you sleep with her?

First of all, thank you to all the people that made my trip to Villa Mimosa a pleasurable one. Without the reports of the senior members, I would of never got the courage to go based on what was said about the place. My opinion, not bad and not that great. Will I go again? Definitely.

I started by going down the street and looking into all the bars. Based on the advice of Sperto, I went into the U-alley couple times, took a seat, and watched the traffic go by. I had read the price was 25R / 20min, but someone I was with said because of the weekend it is 40R. I didn't question if that was for 20 min or 30 min. I ended up spending 50R for one hour, whether that was correct pricing I still don't know. My conclusion of VM is that it is super safe. Never did I feel threatened or felt my safety was in jeopardy in any way. It seemed all the guys there were there for the girls and drinks, and I didn't see anything to the contrary. I would go on to say that VM APPEARS and FEELS safer than the Sante Fe area of Bogota, which I go. Sante Fe seems sketchy, dodgy, and dangerous. I wouldn't walk couple blocks in that area. VM is different, it seems ok to walk. Overall the girls were not that good, but there were an occasional 8 here and there. Thanks to everyone that had posted before about VM, made me want to go and comfortable.

Viper10

[QUOTE=SlimHoleDrill;1304667]Can you say a little more about the pseudo terma Red Light Club? Where, how much and how "pseudo". There must be places popping up with some of the majors being closed. Not always easy to find. Thanks.[/QUOTE]It's good to follow this forum, because I knew before hand that the termas in Rio were upside down: Centaurus is gone. L'Uomo is gone. And one good thing: Those girls have moved around, and you can find them for a lot less right now.

I had read a lot about Red Light Club in the local forums. It's a new club located downtown. Opened just a few weeks ago. Not exactly a terma. More a place where you keep your clothes, watch the show, have drinks, and take a girl upstairs for a very reasonable price.

I found this beautiful girl from Centaurus. Beautiful. Great conversation and great sex. All for less than 150 reais. And I remember paying three times that, last time I was at C's.

The place opens at 5 pm*and stays open until midnight. Here are the prices:

Entry R$30 + drinks. *

Girl + Cabine 40 min R$ 100, 00.

Girl + Cabine 1 hour R$ 140, 00*

Warning: Don't expect a replica of Centaurus. It's more like 4x4, but smaller and with very different types of girls: Big bundas, small bundas, morenas, blondes, popozudas, sophisticated and raunchy. All in a very tight space crowded with locals. Me? I had fun.

Data: Red Light Club. Rua Pereira de Almeida. 73.

Very close to*Pça the Bandeira. Metrô: Estacio.

There's more info at the local forums.

[url]http://www.gpguia.net/viewtopic.php?f=89&t=126036&sid=8652a2457979d700d5489f3830301c82[/url]

[QUOTE=Gaucho9; 1305380]It's good to follow this forum, because I knew before hand that the termas in Rio were upside down: Centaurus is gone. L'Uomo is gone. And one good thing: Those girls have moved around, and you can find them for a lot less right now.

I had read a lot about Red Light Club in the local forums. It's a new club located downtown. Opened just a few weeks ago. Not exactly a terma. More a place where you keep your clothes, watch the show, have drinks, and take a girl upstairs for a very reasonable price.

I found this beautiful girl from Centaurus. Beautiful. Great conversation and great sex. All for less than 150 reais. And I remember paying three times that, last time I was at C's.

The place opens at 5 pm*and stays open until midnight. Here are the prices:

Entry R$30 + drinks. *

Girl + Cabine 40 min R$ 100, 00.

Girl + Cabine 1 hour R$ 140, 00*

Warning: Don't expect a replica of Centaurus. It's more like 4x4, but smaller and with very different types of girls: Big bundas, small bundas, morenas, blondes, popozudas, sophisticated and raunchy. All in a very tight space crowded with locals. Me? I had fun.

Data: Red Light Club. Rua Pereira de Almeida. 73.

Very close to*Pça the Bandeira. Metrô: Estacio.

There's more info at the local forums.

[url]http://www.gpguia.net/viewtopic.php?f=89&t=126036&sid=8652a2457979d700d5489f3830301c82[/url][/QUOTE]Ok. It's the old "73". It used to be pretty mediocre, to say the least, but cheap. If you were in the neighborhood OK, but not worth an expedition from Zona Sul, at least IMHO. Now with the heat on for places like Centaurus and L, it is likely the quality goes up in some places. Girls got to go somewhere. But being winter, I expect a number have gone home to wait it out. There will be more places eventually. Maybe C and L reopen or they get replaced. The free market will prevail, I am sure.

Thanks for the review. Sounds like it is worth the trouble now.

[QUOTE=Gaucho9; 1305380]It's good to follow this forum, because I knew before hand that the termas in Rio were upside down: Centaurus is gone. L'Uomo is gone. And one good thing: Those girls have moved around, and you can find them for a lot less right now.

I had read a lot about Red Light Club in the local forums. It's a new club located downtown. Opened just a few weeks ago. Not exactly a terma. More a place where you keep your clothes, watch the show, have drinks, and take a girl upstairs for a very reasonable price.

I found this beautiful girl from Centaurus. Beautiful. Great conversation and great sex. All for less than 150 reais. And I remember paying three times that, last time I was at C's.

The place opens at 5 pm*and stays open until midnight. Here are the prices:

Entry R$30 + drinks. *

Girl + Cabine 40 min R$ 100, 00.

Girl + Cabine 1 hour R$ 140, 00*

Warning: Don't expect a replica of Centaurus. It's more like 4x4, but smaller and with very different types of girls: Big bundas, small bundas, morenas, blondes, popozudas, sophisticated and raunchy. All in a very tight space crowded with locals. Me? I had fun.

Data: Red Light Club. Rua Pereira de Almeida. 73.

Very close to*Pça the Bandeira. Metrô: Estacio.

There's more info at the local forums.

[url]http://www.gpguia.net/viewtopic.php?f=89&t=126036&sid=8652a2457979d700d5489f3830301c82[/url][/QUOTE]After reading the boards, I think it may have just gone up to 160R per hour in the cabina.

[QUOTE=Mangera;1305481]After reading the boards, I think it may have just gone up to 160R per hour in the cabina.[/QUOTE]Yesterday it was 140. Drinks really cheap.

Colourful but (it seemed) a safe area. A good galetos place on the corner.

Count another 30 reais for the taxi on the way back to Ipanema.

I arrived by Metrô. But I don't recommend it. At least by 6:00. Crowded as hell! Almost missed the station.

[QUOTE=SlimHoleDrill; 1305462]Ok. It's the old "73". It used to be pretty mediocre, to say the least, but cheap. If you were in the neighborhood OK, but not worth an expedition from Zona Sul, at least IMHO. Now with the heat on for places like Centaurus and L, it is likely the quality goes up in some places. Girls got to go somewhere. But being winter, I expect a number have gone home to wait it out. There will be more places eventually. Maybe C and L reopen or they get replaced. The free market will prevail, I am sure.

Thanks for the review. Sounds like it is worth the trouble now.[/QUOTE]It's actually really near a great restaurant / bar called Aconchego Carioca that features craft-beer from all over Brazil and the world, and food from the NE. Place has like 1-2 hour waits for tables some nights. Sadly it is not a terribly accessible neighborhood by metro even though the stations seem somewhat close. And it's a little sketchy at night. I need to get back to 502 and 4x4 and 65 to see what new talent has ended up there.

I just came back from Montecarlo and same story: Lots of Centaurus girls. I stayed most of the time with 2 girls called Gabriela and Fabi. It was good fun. Typical terma stuff. They assured me that Centaurus is opening back in a week or two. *

I went upstairs with Fabi, but the most outstanding thing happened when I came back. Gabriela came to me, kissed me and said that I brought her good luck. That "the mayor of the city" just appeared after I left with Fabi and bought a 500 reais bottle for her. I thought she was kidding me. But the rest of the girls all agreed. Was she putting me on? If that's true that's the most amazing story I have heard in Rio so far. Specially after the last raids.

[QUOTE=Eric Cartman;1305582]It's actually really near a great restaurant / bar called Aconchego Carioca that features craft-beer from all over Brazil and the world, and food from the NE. Place has like 1-2 hour waits for tables some nights. Sadly it is not a terribly accessible neighborhood by metro even though the stations seem somewhat close. And it's a little sketchy at night. I need to get back to 502 and 4x4 and 65 to see what new talent has ended up there.[/QUOTE]Yep. I was surprised to see so many cab drivers stopping for their food. I should have stayed. Looked good. Maybe next time.

The best two Metrô stations are Stacio and Cidade Nova. I walked by 7:00 pm and it looked really safe. Plenty of people. Don't know how it gets after that.

Still, the best sex I have had in the last years, was with the blonde from Red Light. Amazing 19 year old. Looked like an angel and fucked like a devil. Wow.

[QUOTE=Gaucho9; 1305517]Yesterday it was 140. Drinks really cheap.

Colourful but (it seemed) a safe area. A good galetos place on the corner.

Count another 30 reais for the taxi on the way back to Ipanema.

I arrived by Metrô. But I don't recommend it. At least by 6:00. Crowded as hell! Almost missed the station.[/QUOTE]Ok, I can confirm that prices have just gone up. I saw the table with prices depending on time, quality of cabina (e. G. Suite with or without hidro, etc.) and whether you pay cash or with credit card. For example, I took the regular cabina or 1hr for a total 160R in dinero (If I would have chosen to pay with Credit card, it would have been either 182R or 192R, I forget exactly now. I saw so many choices and numbers, I forget).

I took the Metro to Estacio, and then took a taxi to and then later around 11:30pm I taxi back to Metro. That neighborhood is shady at night. A couple of other Brazilians agreed with me about that neighborhood at night. The administration is trying to make an effort in getting this place going strong. Thay have a DJ playing Funk, and some hip hop, waitresses constantly cleaning the tables. I had a vodka smirnoff and to bottles of water, and it came out to 20R. As for the women, I can honestly say there were about two who really can compete and would be stunners at a highend termas. I think they are probably there because Cent. And Luo. Are fechado. I was not able to talk to eithe one because they were snatched up right away. I got in around 8pm. However, I struck gold with a little spinner with a tight ass and great smile. We had good chemistry in the boate, so I rolled the dice. She surprised me in the cabina. Her innocent, sweet smile, and carinhosa way had me thinking we were going to namorar. Oh my, shewas a dirty little working girl in bed. I loved it! God Bless her, she gave it her all.

My advice, be extremely careful in choosing a garota because there are two main factors which can throw you off. Its pretty dark and the music is blasting in there. Also, they are not wearing a bikini, they are wearing clothes as if they were going out dancing to a club. So make sure you take a close look at there belly and ass, and also make sure you see there faces in a place with a lot of light. Maybe I will take a couple of buddies there some time soon if I got some time to kill. They both have cars, will make it easier and better to come and go.

[QUOTE=Stan the Man; 1304755]Rumors based on direct statements from people who used to work there: First, L'Uomo appears to be closed for good. Girls were told last week to come by and pick up any personal belongings they had in their lockers and that it would not re-open. I don't know about this last part, but they were told to come by and pick up their personal effects.

Rumor: Centaurus was closed, at least in part, for not paying off the local cops properly. The press reports say that R$300, 000 was seized. One of the owners says it was around R$600, 000. Some former C girls are saying it will open again in a few weeks, but that rumor has been ongoing for weeks. The failure to pay local cops properly seems like it could be true, particularly in light of the fact that they raided many Ts and only a few were shut down, with no further raids since then.

That's all I've got. Take the rumors with a grain of salt.[/QUOTE]For gosh sake, really? L'uomo gone for good? That is really sad, been dreaming of returning to Brazil and with the dollar making a comeback seemed like it would be worth it. What's left?

[QUOTE=Chicafan;1305692]For gosh sake, really? L'uomo gone for good? That is really sad, been dreaming of returning to Brazil and with the dollar making a comeback seemed like it would be worth it. What's left?[/QUOTE]There is still Colombia!

When are people here going to get that the party is over because the host wants everyone to go home? The government of Brazil at the highest levels does not want Brazil and Brazilians to be viewed as prostitutes to the world. These, and future closures, are not about local cops and politicians not receiving their bribes.

[QUOTE=Chicafan;1305692]For gosh sake, really? L'uomo gone for good? That is really sad, been dreaming of returning to Brazil and with the dollar making a comeback seemed like it would be worth it. What's left?[/QUOTE]It is a disturbing trend if true. If you count other somewhat recent closures like Rio Antigo and Aeroporto. It puts a huge dent in the high end options. The only effect I could see as far as competition is that some mid to low end places raised prices, like 22. I have not been to 22 in about a year since they jacked up prices on me. I can't remember now, and it was not all that much, but it was the principle.

If you lump in Help, which we all know took it too far for the local government and property owners to accept, it looks like a slow move to gentrification. A retreat from free love (well, not really, when was it ever free?) , sex, drugs and rock and roll. The same is going on in Europe now. Really strange, because the clamp down is coming from the left. Places like Norway have imposed huge fines on the Johns if they are caught soliciting. This is because, the way the left see it now, all prostitution is exploitation of women regardless of the circumstances. Try telling me that after I have just dropped R500-R600 in L'uomo (back in the day that would get you a lot entertainment!). Who is getting exploited? Left wing politics used to support the rights of women to work in the profession, now, they know better what is good for you and they will make laws to make sure you are doing what is good for you. I never really thought I would see this in Brazil, but it seems to be happening albeit slowly.

In Amsterdam, they are slowly pushing back the window areas. There used to be a great little area across the Single mostly missed by the rank tourists; now it is all a quiet neighborhood. Coffee shops now are not supposed to sell to foreigners. Not imposed yet in Amsterdam, but in effect near the German border and they say it will be enforced in Amsterdam next year.

What will happen in Brazil? There are two forces at work: gentrification (which is coming because of the increasing wealth of the middle class) and the free market for poontang. My guess is that the market will respond but not in a very convenient way. Red Light is a good example. The place reopens and moves a little upscale due to talent availability, but it is a long way from the high dollar real estate in Zona Sul. So, I am sure there will continue to be myriad options, but maybe just not in Copacabana. Another example is that somehow, through all this time, Leblon and Ipanema do not have any termas and I am sure that they could thrive there if allowed to open. (Strange, though, that there are gay places in Ipanema.) I guess they know that there would be heat on them if they set up right in the heart of the upper class neighborhoods although business would boom there.

So, you might find yourself with options that require a lot of travel from the Zona Sul area. Downtown, Ancora in Recreio, Red light etc. Solarium. Now there is an interesting thing. Solarium, which I understand is owned by the same people as MC was not affected and MC is now open again, but with a little different dress code. Solarium is known to be frequented by top politicians and police. Yet, Centaurus and L'uomo are still closed. I am sure Centaurus and L'uomo would be glad to make the girls wear a little bit more if they could reopen. Seems they want to kick it out of the tourist areas, but politics still prevail.

"Don't it always seem to go, you don't know what you've got 'till it's gone" Joni Mitchell

You guys are wasting your time trying to rationalize the recent closures of termas. There is a certain amount of shit that happens in Brazil that makes no sense at all. While I do agree that there are forces that probably don't look at the sex scene very favorably I don't think their efforts are anywhere near as organized as you guys think. I would not be surprised if all these places are back and open for business within the next month. Than what? I tell you. We will be sitting here saying,"that shit made no fuckin sense". Don't waste you brain power trying to figure out something that wasn't meant to be figured out.

[QUOTE=Mongmann;1305897]You guys are wasting your time trying to rationalize the recent closures of termas. There is a certain amount of shit that happens in Brazil that makes no sense at all. While I do agree that there are forces that probably don't look at the sex scene very favorably I don't think their efforts are anywhere near as organized as you guys think. I would not be surprised if all these places are back and open for business within the next month. Than what? I tell you. We will be sitting here saying,"that shit made no fuckin sense". Don't waste you brain power trying to figure out something that wasn't meant to be figured out.[/QUOTE]Closing Help was not an accident and it is very easy to understand and makes all the sense in the world. In the past when they haver raided an closed these places (and it does happen occasionally) it was pretty obviously having to do with payoffs. This time seems different, but maybe not.

I don't disagree that they may be open again in a month. But obviously there is something different between MC and Solarium and Centaurus and L. Sorry if the speculations offend you. Don't worry, didn't waste much brain power. Not much there to waste.

[QUOTE=SlimHoleDrill;1305943]But obviously there is something different between MC and Solarium and Centaurus and L. Sorry if the speculations offend you. Don't worry, didn't waste much brain power. Not much there to waste.[/QUOTE]Actually, I'd argue that there's very little that's different. Solarium is very much like Centaurus in terms of where it is located. It's on a somewhat sleepy residential street in a nice part of town. Admittedly, Centaurus is in a more high profile touristy area. But, in terms of the potential to offend the local neighbors and being in a residential area, both are similar. Likewise, MC and L'Uomo share some similarities. Neither was in a residential area. MC obviously is in a more touristy area, but it's right off Avenida Atlantica, a far more commercial area. L'Uomo was tucked away on the second floor of an otherwise unused portion of a commercial shopping center. There is no potential that that place was offending the locals, at least not residential folks. If this really is just part of Brazil's effort not to be seen as providing GDP to the world, then shutting Centaurus and MC down for good would make sense. They're both in high tourist areas. But, that doesn't appear to be what happened.

If true, the one thing MC and Solarium may have in common is this: An owner who knows how to pay the local cops properly, and perhaps has a bit more influence with the local bureaucracy. Otherwise, I see very little to distinguish these otherwise high profile places.

Admittedly, it's speculation. But, I don't buy into the rationale that everything happens for no reason. It certainly doesn't mean the speculation is right. But there's some method to the madness somewhere. I would love to see Centaurus re-open, but I'm betting the rumors about L'Uomo are true. The place always seemed to be hanging by a thread to me for the past year. 12 to 20 chicas per day and few patrons. Hope I'm wrong.

[QUOTE=SlimHoleDrill;1305943]Closing Help was not an accident.[/QUOTE]Just for the record, Club Help was not closed in the fashion of the termas. Help colsed because the long-term lease that Help held was not renewed. The termas are closed because they did not pay the fees for the officials to turn their head on working girl houses disguised as spas (termas). Centurus and Luomo had a hard time explaining why they had so much cash on hand in the terma. For example, if the officials get 10% of the house and you had $200, 000 US ($400, 000) , then why did we only get R$5, 000? So you've been cheating us out of our percentage agreement huh. Then we will call your doors until you can explain why you have so much cash at the benefit of the working girls, where Brazilian law say "prostitution is legal for the girls benefit and not a pimp or *****house."

This is what Centuras and Luomo gets for being "greedy"! They did want to pay their "pimp" (police officials) , and they are paying the price.

[QUOTE=Mongmann;1305897]You guys are wasting your time trying to rationalize the recent closures of termas. There is a certain amount of shit that happens in Brazil that makes no sense at all. While I do agree that there are forces that probably don't look at the sex scene very favorably I don't think their efforts are anywhere near as organized as you guys think.[/QUOTE]I agree that everything in Brazil tends to be unorganized by nature. But talking these days with a lot of locals, it's clear that they want to show a different side of the city.

Rio is changing. A lot. They will be investing huge loads of money over the next years updating the city. Including three new museums and major new facilities everywhere.

But the termas won't dissapear because they are part of the fabric of brazilian social life. They just want to make them more subtle.

[QUOTE=SlimHoleDrill; 1305943]Closing Help was not an accident and it is very easy to understand and makes all the sense in the world. In the past when they haver raided an closed these places (and it does happen occasionally) it was pretty obviously having to do with payoffs. This time seems different, but maybe not.

I don't disagree that they may be open again in a month. But obviously there is something different between MC and Solarium and Centaurus and L. Sorry if the speculations offend you. Don't worry, didn't waste much brain power. Not much there to waste.[/QUOTE]No offense taken at all. I just hate to see folks punishing themselves. I don't think these terma closures have anything to do with the powers that be stamping out prostitution. Help maybe, street scene on atlantica maybe, termas no. I think you guys are over thinking this. Hey, just my two cents.

[QUOTE=Gaucho9; 1305618]I just came back from Montecarlo and same story: Lots of Centaurus girls. I stayed most of the time with 2 girls called Gabriela and Fabi. It was good fun. Typical terma stuff. They assured me that Centaurus is opening back in a week or two. *

I went upstairs with Fabi, but the most outstanding thing happened when I came back. Gabriela came to me, kissed me and said that I brought her good luck. That "the mayor of the city" just appeared after I left with Fabi and bought a 500 reais bottle for her. I thought she was kidding me. But the rest of the girls all agreed. Was she putting me on? If that's true that's the most amazing story I have heard in Rio so far. Specially after the last raids.[/QUOTE]In the same line of thought, two of the things I realized the other day, talking with the girls at MC, is that politicians (at least some of them) visit termas regularly. As clients. So termas are not going to go away. And thank God Almighty for that.

Another thing is that termas girls don't retire. They just move around.

As a matter of fact, I had never seen so many girls in Montecarlo before!

And thank God Almighty for that too.

[QUOTE=Stan Da Man;1305955]If true, the one thing MC and Solarium may have in common is this: An owner who knows how to pay the local cops properly, and perhaps has a bit more influence with the local bureaucracy. Otherwise, I see very little to distinguish these otherwise high profile places.[/QUOTE]This is what I meant. Connected? For sure. Solarium was (and maybe still is) frequented by Lula. Also a lot of cops are in there for free, or so the girls say. They've pointed them out to me and don't like them very much. They don't get to go to the cabina for free, but they don't have to pay entrada. Probably they have to pay for drinks, but I'm not sure what that situation is. So they come in, party, grope the girls and get in the way of the real customers. I guess they are there just in case they need to do an impromptu raid.

And yes, Help was closed in a different way. The lease was not renewed. But why was that? My understanding is that it was because the city took the space for a new "light and sound" museum. And why did they need to do that at that particular location? At the time, there was all sorts of press about how the community had banded together and this was a clean up. Did Help have payoffs going? Probably. Was it not enough? Probably not the problem. My guess is that it just got too far out there for the politicians to look the other way. But I don't really know.

One of the very interesting things about Brazil is trying to figure out what the real reason is when strange things happen. It is a national pass time in Brazil. Nobody in Brazil is worried that the action will dry up, but it might get a little less convenient for some people. That's the case for me since 5 of my favorite options are no longer there at least for the moment. I'm hoping they get their act together and they can come back, but it seems quite serious. Usually, in a payoff dispute, they don't stay closed this long. Cariocas I know say that this was because of Rio +20 and also perhaps a lead up to the World Cup and eventually, the Olympics. Maybe this is far fetched, but there are a lot everyday Brazilians who are not at all amused at our avocation. They would shut it all down in a heart beat if they could. Hey, I don't want Centaurus next door to my house, just within walking distance!

[QUOTE=SlimHoleDrill; 1306110].

And yes, Help was closed in a different way. The lease was not renewed. But why was that? My understanding is that it was because the city took the space for a new "light and sound" museum. And why did they need to do that at that particular location? At the time, there was all sorts of press about how the community had banded together and this was a clean up. Did Help have payoffs going? Probably. Was it not enough? Probably not the problem. My guess is that it just got too far out there for the politicians to look the other way. But I don't really know.[/QUOTE]The government took action at that time because of the open window on the Help lease held by the Windsor Hotels group as it was about to expire. The Robert Marinho Foundation, funded by the owners of the O Globo media empire, had been looking for a site to construct a new Museum of Image and Sound, and this opportunity served both the goals of the Foundation and the government to expand cultural venues at very favorable terms. Governor Cabral assembled 50% of the funding needed and exerted his authority to do a taking of the property. Marinho Foundation provided the remaining funds for the project. While offsetting the prostitution and sex tourist traffic in Copacabana may have been a secondary benefit, the primarily goal for taking of Help was the construction of this new cultural landmark that the MIS is intended to be. You can see the subtle influence of the Marinho empire at the two new kiosks directly across Ave Atlantica bearing the O Globo banner. Unlike other kiosks they sell no refreshments but only serve to promote O Globo merchandise and the MIS.

I for one would be glad to have Centaurus next to my apartment LOL.

Speaking of MC, yes I hear a TON of girls are back working there. In fact a friend of mine. Who hasn't worked there for over a year. Just went back.

It's a crying shame too because she was coming over here for R$200 a throw and now her nights will be consumed there.

Plus to top it all off, MC is a bit of a no-fly zone for me lately with all the girls I know who have ended up there. Including 2 who were "friends" of mine, one of who used to work at Luomo and another who stopped working (and asked me not to go where she works, which really isn't fair). I have to see how long I can stand this self-imposed exile. Or at least get off my ass and go to Centro more.

This week was made up of 3 housecalls with amigas at the aforementioned house rate. May be enough for one man to take!

-Cartman

So I guess the rundown is.

Luomo-Closed for good?

Cent-Possible reopening?

And it looks like MC is getting all the girls? Can any locals confirm the price for MC since its pretty much the only one left around my area that I saty in wheni go visit.

[QUOTE=Eric Cartman; 1306312].

Plus to top it all off, MC is a bit of a no-fly zone for me (and asked me not to go where she works, which really isn't fair)!

-Cartman[/QUOTE]Eric,

This have always amazed me over the years when I read about guys posting about not going to a Club Help or Termas A or Termas B or Balcony Bar you name the place. Because some hooker they have or ARE paying to fuck told them NOT to come there? WHY on earth would or could you or anyone allow yourself to be told by a hooker that rent and lease out her pussy and her ass hoe to tricks to fuck by the hour to detect to you a grown man and tell you were you can go and can't go to spend your hard earned money or go where you please?

I mean you wrote "which really isn't fair " REALLY? What really isn't fair is for you to allow a 20 something hooker to tell you were you can go and how you should spend your money and were you can go on your free time. From ALL the years I been going to Rio I wish a hooker would try tell me some silly shit like that hell she have to be spreading her ass cheeks 24/7 and sucking my dick taking cum shots all in her eyes and nose to even think of telling me were and what I can do and she better be paying me money for my bills and cooking me meals and cleaning my place to even THINK of telling me what I can do. And you the one paying this chick 200 reals to fuck ? And she telling YOU what to do? OMG Eric come on man.

Hell, if a chick tell me some shit like that my ass would be there BEFORE they open up fucking her best friend in her ass and buying the chick he hates the most a drink and doing a session with a different chick that would teach her a lesson to EVER tell me some dumb shit like that again. Who and the hell she thinks she is? You trickin off your money and spending it on her and she is telling you NOT to go there were she selling pussy and allowing some 300lb OBESE trick to do anal on her? I guess she want to be greedy and take ALL your money and make sure you don't fall in love with another chick pussy or sucking skills and have you spend your money on some other hooker WHY should you have to waste your time taking some ride on some busy train were you have to stand up because some HOOKER tell you not to go were works ? Man how do that even sound?

Man, I would love to hear that you went to MC on Monday or as soon as you get a chance and even call to make sure she is working there and show up and enjoy yourself man have a few beers do a session with a NEW chick if you want to BUT I would be damn the day some 20 year old hooker tell me what to do my lady I been with for years don't even tell me what to do and she cooks and clean and have sex with me without asking for a credit card or money too.

Hell, what you think one of those local Brazilian guys would do or tell one of those Terma hooker chicks IF she try to tell one of them some silly shit like that? . Hell I have watched chicks sit on the sofa with local Brazilian guys jacking on their dicks and kissing on them for hours and as soon as a NEW chick walks in the bar the guy would drop her and get the NEW chick and take her up to do a session. But you are afraid to even go in a Terma were some hooker you pay to fuck at your apt works? . Man WHY can't I have some fun and have one of these chicks tell me some silly shit like that LOL LOL

Kid Cisco

[QUOTE=Kid Cisco; 1306361]Eric,

This have always amazed me over the years when I read about guys posting about not going to a Club Help or Termas A or Termas B or Balcony Bar you name the place. Because some hooker they have or ARE paying to fuck told them NOT to come there? WHY on earth would or could you or anyone allow yourself to be told by a hooker that rent and lease out her pussy and her ass hoe to tricks to fuck by the hour to detect to you a grown man and tell you were you can go and can't go to spend your hard earned money or go where you please?

I mean you wrote "which really isn't fair " REALLY? What really isn't fair is for you to allow a 20 something hooker to tell you were you can go and how you should spend your money and were you can go on your free time. From ALL the years I been going to Rio I wish a hooker would try tell me some silly shit like that hell she have to be spreading her ass cheeks 24/7 and sucking my dick taking cum shots all in her eyes and nose to even think of telling me were and what I can do and she better be paying me money for my bills and cooking me meals and cleaning my place to even THINK of telling me what I can do. And you the one paying this chick 200 reals to fuck? And she telling YOU what to do? OMG Eric come on man.

Hell, if a chick tell me some shit like that my ass would be there BEFORE they open up fucking her best friend in her ass and buying the chick he hates the most a drink and doing a session with a different chick that would teach her a lesson to EVER tell me some dumb shit like that again. Who and the hell she thinks she is? You trickin off your money and spending it on her and she is telling you NOT to go there were she selling pussy and allowing some 300lb OBESE trick to do anal on her? I guess she want to be greedy and take ALL your money and make sure you don't fall in love with another chick pussy or sucking skills and have you spend your money on some other hooker WHY should you have to waste your time taking some ride on some busy train were you have to stand up because some HOOKER tell you not to go were works? Man how do that even sound?

Kid Cisco[/QUOTE]What do these tutes think this is? A relationship? Haha! You get into a "relationship" and a woman thinks she's going to start tellin' a grown man what he can do, even including shit like what he can watch on TV! Fuck that. And gets ta steppin'! I don't let non-working girls tell me what I can and cannot do. And I'll be double-damned if I'm going to let one who's takin' money from all "cummers" do it either. That's insane!

[QUOTE=Kid Cisco; 1306361]From ALL the years I been going to Rio I wish a hooker would try tell me some silly shit like that hell she have to be spreading her ass cheeks 24/7 and sucking my dick taking cum shots all in her eyes and nose to even think of telling me were and what I can do and she better be paying me money for my bills and cooking me meals and cleaning my place to even THINK of telling me what I can do. And you the one paying this chick 200 reals to fuck? And she telling YOU what to do? OMG Eric come on man.

BUT I would be damn the day some 20 year old hooker tell me what to do my lady I been with for years don't even tell me what to do and she cooks and clean and have sex with me without asking for a credit card.

Kid Cisco[/QUOTE]Sex is great. The information that you find in this forum is great. But let me state something: Feelings and human relations are even more important. That's why I find Cisco's post directed to Eric Cartman simply offensive and out of any logic.

I enjoy having sex for pay. It's an easy and clean way of accesing beatiful women from all over the world. And it's not just the sex. It's the fun, the flirting, the jokes. Touching, dancing, kidding.

I have a regular ladyfriend at home but I enjoy the variety and the trill of knowing other women. Specially when I travel.

But I always respect those women that I enjoy so much. I try to understand them and I'll never treat them as pieces of meat. They are human beings. With emotions. Something that, sometimes, get lost in this forum.

One thing is being involved in a commercial transaction (that's P4P) and another thing is the need to humilliate and denigrate the other side. Sorry but I can't stand that. *

That's why I respect Eric's behaviour. It's not that he's afraid, he's just allowing the other side to ask for something and to mark the territory. The fact that he's paying allows him precisely to be generous. If he feels like. *

It's his prerogative. Like in any other commercial transaction. I call that mutual respect. And that makes Cartman more human.

Is this naif? No. You will all realize with the passing of time, that the temporary thrill fades away but the feelings and the memories stick.

Enjoy. Have fun. Respect.

I guess after my previous post, I'm not in the mood for a long one. So here's one reeeeeeeally short.

Went to Solarium after work. Probably the most expensive terma, now that C's gone. Always enjoyed it. Lots of locals. Lots of girls. Three or four of them absoluteley stunning.

Great sex with Mel, beautiful blonde. Couple of capivodkas. Flirted with three others. Great conversation with a guy that was a friend of Ronaldinho (the soccer player).

Grabbed something to eat at the corner with Jardim Botanico. Got taxi back to Copa. Slept great. I enjoy Rio's winter. Never had been here before by this time. Rain and cooler weather.

In a couple of days I'm flying back home. Too bad. I hope to get back by September. We'll see.

[QUOTE=Gaucho9;1306523]It's his prerogative. Like in any other commercial transaction. I call that mutual respect. And that makes Cartman more human.[/QUOTE]This has nothing to do with "respect" for the girl. Rather, it has to do with her own "disrespect" and "controlling" behavior towards a client. And it doesn't appear to me that Cartman is doing anything out of "generosity" since he himself called the request "unfair". And he's exactly right about that! So, it becomes a matter of how to respond. Do you let one of these tutes treat you unfairly? Hell no! What's fair is fair. She fucks who she wants when she wants, including YOUR best friend if the price is right. So guess what? I'm going to butt fuck HER best friend if the price is right too and ask HER if she wants to join us in a dupla. What's fair is fair! This has nothing to do with being more or less "human". It's about not being unfairly controlled and taken advantage of by somebody else's selfish, bad human traits.

[QUOTE=Kid Cisco;1306361]From ALL the years I been going to Rio I wish a hooker would try tell me some silly shit like that hell she have to be spreading her ass cheeks 24/7 and sucking my dick taking cum shots all in her eyes and nose to even think of telling me were and what I can do and she better be paying me money for my bills and cooking me meals and cleaning my place to even THINK of telling me what I can do. Hell, if a chick tell me some shit like that my ass would be there BEFORE they open up fucking her best friend in her ass and buying the chick he hates the most a drink and doing a session with a different chick that would teach her a lesson to EVER tell me some dumb shit like that again.[/QUOTE]What a gentleman. The girls must love you.

[QUOTE=Gaucho9; 1306523].

I have a regular ladyfriend at home but I enjoy the variety and the trill of knowing other women. But I always respect those women that I enjoy so much. I try to understand them and I'll never treat them as pieces of meat. They are human beings. Is this naif.[/QUOTE]And your regular ladyfriend knows the 'trill'. She 'naif', or you just too real to feel? Another wannabe arbiter of 'respect'. Give us a break.

[QUOTE=Gaucho9; 1306523]Sex is great. The information that you find in this forum is great. But let me state something: Feelings and human relations are even more important. That's why I find Cisco's post directed to Eric Cartman simply offensive and out of any logic.

I enjoy having sex for pay. It's an easy and clean way of accesing beatiful women from all over the world. And it's not just the sex. It's the fun, the flirting, the jokes. Touching, dancing, kidding.

I have a regular ladyfriend at home but I enjoy the variety and the trill of knowing other women. Specially when I travel.

But I always respect those women that I enjoy so much. I try to understand them and I'll never treat them as pieces of meat. They are human beings. With emotions. Something that, sometimes, get lost in this forum.

One thing is being involved in a commercial transaction (that's P4P) and another thing is the need to humilliate and denigrate the other side. Sorry but I can't stand that. *

That's why I respect Eric's behaviour. It's not that he's afraid, he's just allowing the other side to ask for something and to mark the territory. The fact that he's paying allows him precisely to be generous. If he feels like. *

It's his prerogative. Like in any other commercial transaction. I call that mutual respect. And that makes Cartman more human.

Is this naif? No. You will all realize with the passing of time, that the temporary thrill fades away but the feelings and the memories stick.

Enjoy. Have fun. Respect.[/QUOTE]I think you guys are taking Cisco's comments the wrong way. What he's saying is it's ridiculous to avoid a certain terma because a girl who works there might see you. I agree with him. Here's the bottom line, p4p is p4p, period. Are there some real cool girls that you'll meet? Sure. Should you be disrespectful? Absolutely not. However, at the end of the day this is YOUR trip so YOU should enjoy it. I treat all the girls I meet with respect. That being said I go to any and every terma I want and I don't care who's there.

[QUOTE=Kid Cisco; 1306361]Eric,

Hell, if a chick tell me some shit like that my ass would be there BEFORE they open up fucking her best friend in her ass and buying the chick he hates the most a drink and doing a session with a different chick that would teach her a lesson to EVER tell me some dumb shit like that again. Who and the hell she thinks she is? You trickin off your money and spending it on her and she is telling you NOT to go there were she selling pussy and allowing some 300lb OBESE trick to do anal on her? I guess she want to be greedy and take ALL your money and make sure you don't fall in love with another chick pussy or sucking skills and have you spend your money on some other hooker WHY should you have to waste your time taking some ride on some busy train were you have to stand up because some HOOKER tell you not to go were works? Man how do that even sound?

Man, I would love to hear that you went to MC on Monday or as soon as you get a chance and even call to make sure she is working there and show up and enjoy yourself man have a few beers do a session with a NEW chick if you want to BUT I would be damn the day some 20 year old hooker tell me what to do my lady I been with for years don't even tell me what to do and she cooks and clean and have sex with me without asking for a credit card or money too.

Hell, what you think one of those local Brazilian guys would do or tell one of those Terma hooker chicks IF she try to tell one of them some silly shit like that? . Hell I have watched chicks sit on the sofa with local Brazilian guys jacking on their dicks and kissing on them for hours and as soon as a NEW chick walks in the bar the guy would drop her and get the NEW chick and take her up to do a session. But you are afraid to even go in a Terma were some hooker you pay to fuck at your apt works? . Man WHY can't I have some fun and have one of these chicks tell me some silly shit like that LOL LOL

Kid Cisco[/QUOTE]I agree with Kid Cisco. When you're paying for sex no one can tell you what to do with other woman. GDPs pay gringos for suckers. I bet the same girl who say this stuff won't even jerk you off if you have no money, yet, she's telling you what to do with your money. Please! I don't get into friendly associations with gdps. When you're paying money it's a business transaction.

I like it when working girls call me a "safado". They try to use it as a bad think, even when they are working girls. But we talk about fellas over paying working girls and spoiling them, then there's nothing wrong with Kid Cisco, or anyone, clarifying you're not doing yourself justice by allow a working girl to treat you what she can't get her husband or baby daddy, who she may live with, to jump through hoops she want her paying clients to do. Her motivation is to suck and fuck as much money she can get from you before you return home.

I know of a guy who allow a blond Copa working girl named Rafaelie, Renata's friend, to leave him crying in the middle of Dolce Vita. She would be with him and he would take her, her mother and two kids to dinner and live in his apartment. Then when her other sucker would come to Copa, she'd tell the first guy that he's #2 and not #1. Now if that's what you guys like to do and be treated, more power to you. That's your business! But you're being played by working girls who see you as stupid tricks. What KD is saying,"don't be stupid and let working girls become your master." It should be the other way around. In fact, homeless working girls should pay you to spend a night, shower and such.

[QUOTE=Eric Cartman;1306312]Plus to top it all off, MC is a bit of a no-fly zone for me lately with all the girls I know who have ended up there. Including 2 who were "friends" of mine, one of who used to work at Luomo and another who stopped working (and asked me not to go where she works, which really isn't fair). I have to see how long I can stand this self-imposed exile. Or at least get off my ass and go to Centro more.
This week was made up of 3 housecalls with amigas at the aforementioned house rate.[/QUOTE]
Eric lives in Rio. If I understand him right he has some favourite GP's he can call who comes over and give him good service at a decent rate. A good set-up. If it means that he has to stay away from one of Rios many termas that's not a big deal.

Treat the ladies well and you get your reward. No need for fake macho-attitude giving "the h**kers cum shots in their eyes and noses" just to show them who is the big boss. They will only despise you and give you a bad service. However, gringos with that sad attitude helps other gringos, who treat GP's with respect, to get discounted sessions and freebies. Thank you.

[QUOTE=Mongmann;1306631]I think you guys are taking Cisco's comments the wrong way. What he's saying is it's ridiculous to avoid a certain terma because a girl who works there might see you. I agree with him. Here's the bottom line, p4p is p4p, period. Are there some real cool girls that you'll meet? Sure. Should you be disrespectful? Absolutely not. However, at the end of the day this is YOUR trip so YOU should enjoy it. I treat all the girls I meet with respect. That being said I go to any and every terma I want and I don't care who's there.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Mongmann;1306631]I think you guys are taking Cisco's comments the wrong way. What he's saying is it's ridiculous to avoid a certain terma because a girl who works there might see you. I agree with him. Here's the bottom line, p4p is p4p, period. Are there some real cool girls that you'll meet? Sure. Should you be disrespectful? Absolutely not. However, at the end of the day this is YOUR trip so YOU should enjoy it. I treat all the girls I meet with respect. That being said I go to any and every terma I want and I don't care who's there.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the translation. I agree with you. But read Cisco's comments again. He goes beyond that. Way beyond.

When someone doesn't treat me good, I move ahead. Forget it. I don't need the aggravation.

But as I said, another thing is the need to humilliate and denigrate the other side. I don't buy that.

In any case, it's every person's prerogative to take their own decisions.

Don't hurt. Have fun.

I understand the game Eric is playing Sperto, and it will result in extremely better service, and at times even freebies. As long as you know where you stand and where to draw the line with the garota, you will probably be in control. I think thats what some people in this forum are afraid off. To not be in control. Guys, Don't worry, you are in control (you have the flow $). However, they are ladies. So play the game, and show them respect and tell them, give them, and show them the little somethings that women crave. Its all part of the game and the illusion. I think some people in this forum are not acknowledging how important it is do this, whether you mean it or not, because the rewards would surprise / shock you. I have been either very lucky or fortunate with the incredible sex I get from particular women in the pay for play scene which have been given horrible comments about their service from other members in this forum, and even by other brazilians in other forums. I am inclined to believe it has much to do with the way I treat them.

As for other reports in this forum. There's nothing wrong with going to a prive, termas, escort, whatever and wanting to shoot your load in her face (whoever she is) and get the hell out if thats what turns you on. Its all good. However, please don't be critical of others when they take a different approach to the ladies. There is a good chance he (Eric) is getting good quality ass with great service for decent prices.

WOW,

I am glad to see a few guys on here get it like Ipanema Carioca and Mongman and The Cane and some of the others that PM me. I have read some of Ipanema Carioca and The Cane posts and I enjoyed reading them I can tell by reading their posts and can tell they NEVER and DON'T disrespect any of the hookers and I also checked out Mongman posts and he is cool with the chicks too. With that said for some reasons when this term "respect" is always seem to come up when another monger post about how they FUCK some hooker. Like slapping her ass cheeks or pulling her hair when you do her doggie style or cum on her face having your cum run off her noses or eye lids LOL have you EVER thought for a second that many of these hookers asked or some even BEG to have that done to them?

Trust me for the decades I been going to Rio I NEVER had any of the girls that I have fucked before EVER run away from me or turned me down for a second go round NOT a single one. I repeat NOT a single one! As a matter of fact most of us know how these girls love to run their mouth about how a monger fuck that ass of hers and how he beat up that pussy LOL I can't even make it back inside the bar before some other chicks is running up to me asking me to do a session with her and she request the same TREATMENT that I just gave her friend.

Look we all are grown man here and we have different styles if rubbing a chick head and hair and asking her 100 times are you fucking her to hard? And is she OK and are you hurting her when you are on top of her with your 300lb belly is showing respect knock yourself out. BUT trust me I have a phone FULL of phone numbers and a Mac Book Pro full of e-mails addresses and 100's of Facebook friends from hookers I have fucked the shit out of when I was in Rio. So I must be doing something right. LOL.

And as far as getting GREAT prices from these hookers? That all depends on what you call great? 200 reals for a few hours after she get off work? Or 200 reals UNTIL the next day or 300 reals on her off day? Spending the day with her. And trust me I have had MANY free fucks too. From Termas girls.

This is not trying to brag or anything thing BUT the best price to me is NOT paying a price for some ass in Rio. AND I am sure many guys on here that have spent anytime in Rio have got their share of so called free pussy too. And when I say so called "" free pussy"" we know it really isn't free of course you have to pay for dinner or some lunch or a movie or shopping at the mall and buying some T-shirts or a pair of jeans etc. No big deal nothing heavy.

Like I said before after a few weeks of running around in and out of Termas " paying for ass" I then slow down and call up my Facebook girls or Twitter girls I have met and hang out and fuck them without paying I still can't understand IF I don't have a problem pulling chicks in a few weeks in Rio fucking them like a mad man for free how anyone that live there full time even have to step foot inside a Termas? This is not putting anyone down trust me I am a TRICK too I spent years in the Navy paying for pussy around the world I enjoy it and I still do BUT giving time in any place on this planet I can still pull some hot looking chicks I don't care if its in Vegas or South Beach or Rio you name it. I lived in Hawaii for years I wouldn't tell anyone I lived there IF all I did was P4p. I was fucking those local chicks left and right. BUT there was a few guys on base that could ONLY go out on payday and go to the red light area and see hookers.

Sorry I didn't mean to make this a long posts BUT here is a quick story and maybe this will clear up my other post. I was at baggage claim in Rio and saw this dude that was on the plane with me in 1st Class he seem cool a little shorter then me he was about 6'3 we talked and decided to split a Taxi ride in town he gave me his cell number and decided to meet up and go to Club Help (when they were open). Keep in mind I normally am a lone wolf but this dude seem cool from the West Coast well groom and dress fair.

This is when things went and took a LEFT we went into Club Help and he was telling me about all the girls he knew and told me how many times he been to Rio etc. Then the next thing I knew this clown was running around trying to hide his face running into the restroom WTF? I went in there and asked him what wrong man? I CAN'T go back out there she may see me? I was like who he said " HIS "" girlfriend""? I was like what a chick doing inside of Club Help that is his girlfriend? He told me she said I SHOULDN'T and CAN'T go to Club Help when I am in town and that she better not see me in there or she would get MAD? I was like you have to be joking man? PLEASE tell me you are kidding right? You mean to tell me you paid over $ 8, 000 for a 1st Class ticket and you staying and a nice hotel and she telling you how you should spend your vacation? Let me tell you this fool was running around from one side of Club Help to the other and the next thing I knew he was running out of Club Help like a Bat flying out of hell jumping in a Taxi. LOL LOL

Hell I saw the girl he was talking about she was ok looking BUT she wasn't even paying this SIMP any attention she was busy trying to pull some European guy that was popping bottles for her and her girlfriend after that fool jump in the Taxi and RUIN his 1st night in Rio running back to his hotel she was leaving with this European guy that I guess is going to show her some " respect" by paying her 150 reals to lick under his balls and lick out his ass crack LOL LOL hell give me a break. Crying out loud LOL

After a few days he came by my place and we was going to grab something to eat and I thought maybe I can try to talk some sense to this dude I was like damn this fool have invested around $10, 000 on this trip (flight, hotel, food, Termas) and he is going to allow some hooker that he see maybe a few times a year to detect how he is going to spend his trip? I told him look dude when you take off to the West Coast in a few days what you think she is going to do? Or be? Her ass is going to be in Club Help looking to pull some trick. She won't give a rat ass about you I found out I was wasting my time because this fool was in too deep I found out he was wring money to a few chicks weekly when he got paid. He talk about how he make love to these hookers and how he don't fuck them he love them and how they are human being? I laugh in his face I said man who said they wasn't human being? He sounded like some the posts I been reading here over the years were guys in one post talk about how some chick allow them to cum all in her mouth and how she licked his ass out and then I see another post about how they are human beings and should be treated with respect.

Guess what I AGREE 100 % !! They are human beings and I do treat them with respect I DON'T do anything to these girls that I don't ask inside the bar when I 1st interview them! BEFORE I take them up for a session.. I need to see if we will click or not. So yes they asked me to do them good and they love it !! and they love it so much that they tell their girlfriend how I did them and their girlfriends the " freak" that they are line up to get some of the nasty lol lol ... look bottom line IF anyone get their kicks out of running around hiding and having a make believe girlfriend with some hooker they pay by the hour and you guys have this " role playing game " of the jealous girlfriend is how you guys get your rocks off more power to you ..

BUT, my 6'5 big ass is too big and I don't have time for that foolish behavior like the guy from the West Coast that was running around jumping in and out of Taxi's worry about some 21 year old hooker getting MAD at him because he choose NOT to spend every single dime on his trip on her.. hell that was his trip and when it is my trip I REPEAT MY TRIP I am having a fun time !!! and I won't even get into IF I live there that is another story BUT if I am paying a hooker for sex you best believe IF she giving me a good deal there are others that will too give me a good session and a good deal too and ONCE they start trying to set rules on a trick THEN it is time to get you a REAL girlfriend !! hell if a monger live in Rio ? a hooker can't and won't set any rules on me telling me how to spend my free time... IF that disrespecting a hooker so be it you 1st have to respect yourself .. because trust me they won't respect a trick IF they can start telling you what to do and talking to you like you are their 5 year old child the hell with that .. NO female a hooker or non hooker respect a man that can run over..

Kid Cisco

[QUOTE=Kid Cisco; 1306697]WOW,

I am glad to see a few guys on here get it like Ipanema Carioca and Mongman and The Cane and some of the others that PM me. I have read some of Ipanema Carioca and The Cane posts and I enjoyed reading them I can tell by reading their posts and can tell they NEVER and DON'T disrespect any of the hookers and I also checked out Mongman posts and he is cool with the chicks too. With that said for some reasons when this term "respect" is always seem to come up when another monger post about how they FUCK some hooker. Like slapping her ass cheeks or pulling her hair when you do her doggie style or cum on her face having your cum run off her noses or eye lids LOL have you EVER thought for a second that many of these hookers asked or some even BEG to have that done to them?

Trust me for the decades I been going to Rio I NEVER had any of the girls that I have fucked before EVER run away from me or turned me down for a second go round NOT a single one. I repeat NOT a single one! As a matter of fact most of us know how these girls love to run their mouth about how a monger fuck that ass of hers and how he beat up that pussy LOL I can't even make it back inside the bar before some other chicks is running up to me asking me to do a session with her and she request the same TREATMENT that I just gave her friend.

Look we all are grown man here and we have different styles if rubbing a chick head and hair and asking her 100 times are you fucking her to hard? And is she OK and are you hurting her when you are on top of her with your 300lb belly is showing respect knock yourself out. BUT trust me I have a phone FULL of phone numbers and a Mac Book Pro full of e-mails addresses and 100's of Facebook friends from hookers I have fucked the shit out of when I was in Rio. So I must be doing something right. LOL.

And as far as getting GREAT prices from these hookers? That all depends on what you call great? 200 reals for a few hours after she get off work? Or 200 reals UNTIL the next day or 300 reals on her off day? Spending the day with her. And trust me I have had MANY free fucks too. From Termas girls.

This is not trying to brag or anything thing BUT the best price to me is NOT paying a price for some ass in Rio. AND I am sure many guys on here that have spent anytime in Rio have got their share of so called free pussy too. And when I say so called "" free pussy"" we know it really isn't free of course you have to pay for dinner or some lunch or a movie or shopping at the mall and buying some T-shirts or a pair of jeans etc. No big deal nothing heavy.

Like I said before after a few weeks of running around in and out of Termas " paying for ass" I then slow down and call up my Facebook girls or Twitter girls I have met and hang out and fuck them without paying I still can't understand IF I don't have a problem pulling chicks in a few weeks in Rio fucking them like a mad man for free how anyone that live there full time even have to step foot inside a Termas? This is not putting anyone down trust me I am a TRICK too I spent years in the Navy paying for pussy around the world I enjoy it and I still do BUT giving time in any place on this planet I can still pull some hot looking chicks I don't care if its in Vegas or South Beach or Rio you name it. I lived in Hawaii for years I wouldn't tell anyone I lived there IF all I did was P4p. I was fucking those local chicks left and right. BUT there was a few guys on base that could ONLY go out on payday and go to the red light area and see hookers.

Sorry I didn't mean to make this a long posts BUT here is a quick story and maybe this will clear up my other post. I was at baggage claim in Rio and saw this dude that was on the plane with me in 1st Class he seem cool a little shorter then me he was about 6'3 we talked and decided to split a Taxi ride in town he gave me his cell number and decided to meet up and go to Club Help (when they were open). Keep in mind I normally am a lone wolf but this dude seem cool from the West Coast well groom and dress fair.

This is when things went and took a LEFT we went into Club Help and was telling me about all the girls he knew and told me how many times he been to Rio etc. Then the next thing I knew this clown was running around trying to hide his face running into the restroom WTF? I went in there and asked him what wrong man? I CAN'T go back out there she may see me? I was like who he said " HIS "" girlfriend""? I was like what a chick doing inside of Club Help that is his girlfriend? He told me she said I SHOULDN'T and CAN'T go to Club Help when I am in town and that she better not see me in there or she would get MAD? I was like you have to be joking man? PLEASE tell me you are kidding right? You mean to tell me you paid over $ 8, 000 for a 1st Class ticket and you staying and a nice hotel and she telling you how you should spend your vacation? Let me tell you this fool was running around from one side of Club Help to the other and the next thing I knew he was running out of Club Help like a Bat flying out of hell jumping in a Taxi. LOL LOL

Hell I saw the girl he was talking about she was ok looking BUT he wasn't even paying this SIMP any attention she was busy trying to pull some European guy that was popping bottles for her and her girlfriend after that fool jump in the Taxi and RUIN his 1st night in Rio running back to his hotel she was leaving with this European guy that I guess is going to show her some " respect" by paying her 150 reals to lick under his balls and lick out his ass crack LOL LOL hell give me a break. Crying out loud LOL

After a few days he came by my place and we was going to grab something to eat and I thought maybe I can try to talk some sense to this dude I was like damn this fool have invested around $10, 000 on this trip (flight, hotel, food, Termas) and he is going to allow some hooker that he see maybe a few times a year to detect how he is going to spend his trip? I told him look dude when you take off to the West Coast in a few days what you think she is going to do? Or be? Her ass is going to be in Club Help looking to pull some trick. She won't give a rat ass about you I found out I was wasting my time because this fool was in too deep I found out he was wring money to a few chicks weekly when he got paid. He talk about how he make love to these hookers and how he don't fuck them he love them and how they are human being? I laugh in his face I said man who said they wasn't human being? He sounded like some the posts I been reading here over the years were guys in one post talk about how some chick allow them to cum all in her mouth and how she licked his ass out and then I see another post about how they are human beings and should be treated with respect.

Guess what I AGREE 100 %! They are human beings and I do treat them with respect I DON'T do anything to these girls that I don't ask inside the bar when I 1st interview them! BEFORE I take them up for a session. I need to see if we will click or not. So yes they asked me to do them good and they love it! And they love it so much that they tell their girlfriend how I did them and their girlfriends the " freak" that they are line up to get some of the nasty LOL LOL. Look bottom line IF anyone get their kicks out of running around hiding and having a make believe girlfriend with some hooker they pay by the hour and you guys have this " role playing game " of the jealous girlfriend is how you guys get your rocks off more power to you.

BUT, my 6'5 big ass don't have time for the foolish behavior running around jumping in and out of Taxi's worry about some 21 year old hooker getting MAD at me because I choose NOT to spend every single dime on my trip on her I REPEAT MY TRIP! And I won't even get into IF I live there that is another story BUT if I am paying a hooker for sex you best believe IF she give me a good deal there are others that will too and ONCE they start trying to set rules THEN get you a REAL girlfriend! Since you live in Rio because a hooker can't and won't set no rules on me. IF that disrespecting a hooker so be it.

Kid Cisco[/QUOTE]A serial lurker but felt compelled to respond as recently I've been noticing a trend on these forums ie, here. The USA version, tuscl. A lot of punters / mongers / toursitas or whatever we call ourselves these days have become very sentimental with this attitude of confusing who's the paying customer and who wants satisfaction. Also the attitude of attachment to these ladies is sickening! If you want attachment, go be in a marriage or relationship ffs! What has Kid said or done on these boards that shows an iota of disrespect to these ladies? You lot sound like grumpy old women. If ya going to play sentimental and earn second or third pops, good on you. If Kid is going to pay hard earned money to earn seconds, his way, no disrespect on either side!

[QUOTE=Mangera;1306678]There's nothing wrong with going to a prive, termas, escort, whatever and wanting to shoot your load in her face (whoever she is) and get the hell out if thats what turns you on.[/QUOTE]Yes, there IS something wrong with it; it's degrading and abusive to women and shows a complete lack of respect. If you enjoy that sort of thing you are a sick pig. Period!

[QUOTE=Kid Cisco; 1306697]... I was at baggage claim in Rio and saw this dude that was on the plane with me in 1st Class he seem cool a little shorter then me he was about 6'3 we talked and decided to split a Taxi ...

... BUT, my 6'5 big ass is too big and I don't have time ...

Kid Cisco[/QUOTE]Great story, just wondering though, why do your posts almost always talk about how tall you are?

[QUOTE=Lorenzo;1306735]Yes, there IS something wrong with it; it's degrading and abusive to women and shows a complete lack of respect. If you enjoy that sort of thing you are a sick pig. Period![/QUOTE]LOL! I think we all enjoy giving a good facial around here. I do it all the time. I guess I'm disrespectful too, huh? Lmao!

[QUOTE=Ricker;1306750]Great story, just wondering though, why do your posts almost always talk about how tall you are?[/QUOTE]
... and his navy background, travelling first class, Louis Vuitton bags...
Just joking. :D

[QUOTE=Ricker;1306750]Great story, just wondering though, why do your posts almost always talk about how tall you are?[/QUOTE]And why do your posts almost always talk about how great you say you're getting over, jajajeje amigo.

I'm afraid I created some turmoil without even trying. That's life. *In the end you reap what you sow. One way or another. And*as the other said: To each, his own.

Packing my bags and leaving Rio once more. I love the city. It has changed over the years but I still have a lot of fun. Hope I'll be back. You never know.

Cheers, folks!

Went to Solarium last Sunday, and it was closed. Is it not supposed to be open on week-end?

[QUOTE=Lorenzo; 1306735]Yes, there IS something wrong with it; it's degrading and abusive to women and shows a complete lack of respect. If you enjoy that sort of thing you are a sick pig. Period! [/QUOTE.

With all due respect. OINK OINK! Have a nice day!

[QUOTE=Lorenzo;1306735]Yes, there IS something wrong with it; it's degrading and abusive to women and shows a complete lack of respect. If you enjoy that sort of thing you are a sick pig. Period![/QUOTE]There are two issues here, one is what is ethical in terms of how you deal with girls and another what is ethical in terms of sexual desire.

In terms of desire everything is ethical if you both agree to it. I love to be rimmed, some girls will find having to rim far more degrading than what you describe above, but I do it for sexual pleasure, there are few sensations that are better, and the girl can refuse to do it. Also I have returned the favour on many occassions.

Where you release your seed is an important component of sexual desire and pleasure to many, so this really is not a place for other people to go morally lecturing people.

In the realm of sexuality many things are pleasurable to people from different aspects, moral righteousness is very silly here.

Ethnics concerns issues of coercion and objectively harmful maltreatment (deliberate physical injury and non telling someone about STDs you have).

I hate to tell you this, but many of the working girls would not care if you come on their face. In fact if standard sex is what everyone wanted, working girls would lose a lot of money.

Quote the other day from a monger I know from a different thread when I told him about some of the newbie mongering growing pains one of my brothers is now experiencing: "LOL I was hooked like that my first few trips until a guy on ISG posted my girl with a milk mustache LOL."

[QUOTE=Eric Cartman; 1306312]I for one would be glad to have Centaurus next to my apartment LOL.

Speaking of MC, yes I hear a TON of girls are back working there. In fact a friend of mine. Who hasn't worked there for over a year. Just went back.

It's a crying shame too because she was coming over here for R$200 a throw and now her nights will be consumed there.

Plus to top it all off, MC is a bit of a no-fly zone for me lately with all the girls I know who have ended up there. Including 2 who were "friends" of mine, one of who used to work at Luomo and another who stopped working (and asked me not to go where she works, which really isn't fair). I have to see how long I can stand this self-imposed exile. Or at least get off my ass and go to Centro more.

This week was made up of 3 housecalls with amigas at the aforementioned house rate. May be enough for one man to take!

-Cartman[/QUOTE]I haven't posted much in a long time, but this worth some ink. Cartman, don't stay away from MC too long. It has never been like this before.

Went to Monte Carlo last night with some old friends and here is the situation. The place has the highest quality EVER. Not just the highest quality for MC, but the highest ever seen at a terma. Maybe this will bring some discussion, but that is my opinion and shared by several very long time patrons, Cairiocas who live just around the corner. And you have to remember that even with all the stunners at the top end termas, there was always the lower end of the spectrum there which brings the average down. So I am saying it was the highest in terms of the average talent in the place that I have ever seen. I didn't see ONE that I would have considered not doable for me and before, that number would be at least half. It just makes sense too. One of the girls I was with told me about 20 girls from Centaurus are now at MC. They are pissed off about it because at Centaurus 40 minutes would net them R400 but at MC, the net is R200. MEIA! She screamed at me. But the good news is, it had no effect on the quality of service. It was outstanding! So it is the natural response of the market. Lot's of talent around, unemployed, the management at MC takes advantage. I expect this to work its way down the food chain. I'll bet if I go to 22, the talent there will be over the top (for that place). So, in the short term, this is extremely good for the mongering population. We get the cream of the crop, if you will excuse the blatant pun.

However, in the long term it may not be so good. Here are a few items. The heat is still on. The girl told me the cops were back in the place Friday night which sort freaked them out. She also told me she thought it was not just a temporary crack down. She said there were serious problems at Centaurus including a lot of girls using a lot of drugs. Not just smoke, but cocaine as well. So that is another factor I had not heard but you have to give it some credibility and some thought. Another thing I stumbled on is that websites are down for MC, L an C. I haven't checked any others.

My second girlfriend of the night, which I had not planned on, but given the outstanding opportunities, I just could not resist, also told me there were problems there. She claimed she had left Centaurus 2 months ago because of all the craziness there and the high pressure atmosphere, she preferred MC for the relative tranquility. BTW, the first was just fantastic and the second, an absolute stunner by anyone's measure.

My Carioca friends are all pissed off too that they closed these places and they perceive a long term problem. One thing not mentioned here or in the press that I know of is that the last time Obama came to Rio, he stayed in the Marriott and there was an "incident" with his entourage similar to what happened in Colombia. Big surprise. But it was kept much quieter. So their reasoning is Obama, Rio +20, World Cup, Olympics, it all adds up. The powers in Rio don't want the world to view them as the capital of sin. They also state that they think L and C will NEVER reopen because criminal charges are being brought against the owners. And the heat is still on. As I said, my first girlfriend told me that the cops were in there on Friday night nosing around. The concessions made so far is that nobody is open on Sunday, girls are not supposed to be there before 6 PM (although I was there at 5 and I can tell you this was being strictly observed!) and the girls are wearing a little more. No bikinis. Other than that, business as usual.

So we benefit in the short term from immediate upgrades, but in the long term, if the business stays suppressed, it will all rebalance. In fact, the word is that some of the stunners went to Sao Paulo for better pickings. Another ray of hope, and this is just rumor at this point, not confirmed, is that Aeroporto, which recently closed and reopened as a gay terma, has now flipped again and is back to normal. I plan to do some research on this soon.

So, bottom line, I have never had a better night anywhere than last night in MC. I suggest you have a look for yourself if you can. As far as prices, I didn't look carefully, but it seemed the same. 2 cabinas at 40 minutes each, a number of drinks and the damage was R728. A lot of money for a lot of fun.

Got to go now as girl # 1 from last night is coming over to spend the day at the beach and other things.

US NAVY OATH OF ENLISTMENT.

"I, Top Gun, in lieu of going to prison, swear to sign away 4 years of my life to the UNITED STATES NAVY, because I want to hang out with Marines without actually having to BE one of them, because I thought the Air Force was too "corporate," because I didn't want to actually live in dirt like the Army, and because I thought,"Hey, I like to swim. Why not?" I promise to wear clothes that went out of style in 1976 and to have my name stenciled on the butt of every pair of pants I own. I understand that I will be mistaken for the Good Humor Man during summer! And for Nazi Waffen SS during the winter. I will strive to use a different language than the rest of the English-speaking world, using words like "deck, bulkhead, cover, geedunk, scuttlebutt, scuttle and head," when I really mean "floor, wall, hat, candy, water fountain, hole in wall and toilet." I will take great pride in the fact that all Navy acronyms, rank, and insignia, and everything else for that matter, are completely different from the other services and make absolutely no sense whatsoever. I will muster, whatever that is, at 0700 every morning unless I am buddy-buddy with the Chief, in which case I will show up around 0930. I vow to hone my coffee cup-handling skills to the point that I can stand up in a kayak being tossed around in a typhoon, and still not spill a drop. I consent to being promoted and subsequently busted at least twice per fiscal year. I realize that, once selected for Chief, I am required to submit myself to the sick, and quite possibly illegal, whims of my newfound "colleagues." So Help Me Neptune!"

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US MARINE CORPS OATH OF ENLISTMENT.

"I, (pick a name the police won't recognize) , swear. Uhhhh. High-and-tight. Grunt. Cammies. Kill. Fix bayonets. Charge. Slash. Dig. Burn. Blowup. Ugh. Air Force women. Beer. Sailors wives. Air strikes. Yes SIR. Whiskey. Liberty call. Salute. Ooorah Gunny. Grenades. Women. OORAH! So Help Me Chesty PULLER!"

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A young man with a wild and multi-coloured hairstyle sits next to an old man on a park bench. The old man stares at the young man."What's the matter, old man?" says the young man."Never done anything crazy in your life?" The old man replies: "Yeah. When I was in the Navy, I got really drunk one night and had sex with a parrot. I thought you might be my son."

One reason the Services have trouble operating jointly is that they don't speak the same language. For example, if you told Navy personnel to "secure a building," they would turn off the lights and lock the doors. Army personnel would occupy the building so no one could enter. Marines would assault the building, capture it, and defend it with suppressive fire and close combat. The Air Force, on the other hand, would take out a three-year lease with an option to buy.

BTW, you know what ARMY stands for? Aren't Ready to be Marines Yet!

OooRAH LOL

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1306864]Quote the other day from a monger I know from a different thread when I told him about some of the newbie mongering growing pains one of my brothers is now experiencing: "LOL I was hooked like that my first few trips until a guy on ISG posted my girl with a milk mustache LOL."[/QUOTE]Yeah, yeah, yeah, YEAH! Hahahahaha!

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1306864]Quote the other day from a monger I know from a different thread when I told him about some of the newbie mongering growing pains one of my brothers is now experiencing: "LOL I was hooked like that my first few trips until a guy on ISG posted my girl with a milk mustache LOL."[/QUOTE]Well said! It's like motorcycle riders, There are those that have been down and there are those that are going down. LOL.

There are guys who live for the GFE and yet there are still others who want the PSE and these women cater to both clientele. That sweet GDP giving you mindblowing sex could be a sexual freak with another monger or local brazilian.

It depends on the girl but I have had women demand anal, and that I not only fuck them harder but want their hair pulled and ass smacked hard while yelling "gostoso! Fode sua puta!" and this is not your playful slap the booty during doggiestyle. Back in my sport fucking days in Río, I used to remind myself that the sweet GDP is a sex worker and to distance myself emotionally I would invite her to fuck my wingmen and buddies. I will admit that some did refuse to fuck my buddies in my presence at least but many others did wiilingly.

These women are complicated creatures who are masters at sexual relationships, they cater to many men with varrying backgrounds and sexual desires to create a fantasy for those willing to pay for it.

I knew a GDP called Jacqueline she was from Cabo Frio worked at 4X4. This girl was never available as she had a few high roller clients that would rent that king suite and keep her for hours. She was a real cool girl and would come to apt and give me freebies. We lost contact and to my surprise my buddy showed me a porno tape and there was my sweet jacqueline getting slammed! Yes that sweet girl that used to give me GFE sex was getting facialled. I posted her pic here a few years back.

Last question I wonder if the GFE mongers are over 40 and the PSE are younger? Just wondering

[QUOTE=SlimHoleDrill; 1306885]I haven't posted much in a long time, but this worth some ink. Cartman, don't stay away from MC too long. It has never been like this before.

Went to Monte Carlo last night with some old friends and here is the situation. The place has the highest quality EVER. Not just the highest quality for MC, but the highest ever seen at a terma. Maybe this will bring some discussion, but that is my opinion and shared by several very long time patrons, Cairiocas who live just around the corner. And you have to remember that even with all the stunners at the top end termas, there was always the lower end of the spectrum there which brings the average down. So I am saying it was the highest in terms of the average talent in the place that I have ever seen. I didn't see ONE that I would have considered not doable for me and before, that number would be at least half. It just makes sense too. One of the girls I was with told me about 20 girls from Centaurus are now at MC. They are pissed off about it because at Centaurus 40 minutes would net them R400 but at MC, the net is R200. MEIA! She screamed at me. But the good news is, it had no effect on the quality of service. It was outstanding![/QUOTE]Yep. Based in my experience from this week, that's exactly the situation!

I also recommend checking the Red Light.

Enjoy it while you can.

[QUOTE=Carrib; 1306925]There are guys who live for the GFE and yet there are still others who want the PSE and these women cater to both clientele. That sweet GDP giving you mindblowing sex could be a sexual freak with another monger or local brazilian.

It depends on the girl but I have had women demand anal, and that I not only fuck them harder but want their hair pulled and ass smacked hard while yelling "gostoso! Fode sua puta!" and this is not your playful slap the booty during doggiestyle. Back in my sport fucking days in Río, I used to remind myself that the sweet GDP is a sex worker and to distance myself emotionally I would invite her to fuck my wingmen and buddies. I will admit that some did refuse to fuck my buddies in my presence at least but many others did wiilingly.

These women are complicated creatures who are masters at sexual relationships, they cater to many men with varrying backgrounds and sexual desires to create a fantasy for those willing to pay for it.

I knew a GDP called Jacqueline she was from Cabo Frio worked at 4X4. This girl was never available as she had a few high roller clients that would rent that king suite and keep her for hours. She was a real cool girl and would come to apt and give me freebies. We lost contact and to my surprise my buddy showed me a porno tape and there was my sweet jacqueline getting slammed! Yes that sweet girl that used to give me GFE sex was getting facialled. I posted her pic here a few years back.

Last question I wonder if the GFE mongers are over 40 and the PSE are younger? Just wondering[/QUOTE]Carrib,

No one have answer your question so far I will give this a shot. I think the age of the monger really don't matter I think it have to do with were the monger is in his life at the time do he have a REAL " girlfriend" in his private life is he married? Do he date NO PROS how often do he pay for ass? Do he go to night clubs and bars and pick up normal girls? Do he ONLY date jobless, weak broke young females with babies were he can be in control and pay her bills and play Sugar Daddy or Captain Save a Ho do he go after females with their own home and car with good paying jobs bitches and he don't go after them. These girls are GREAT when it comes to profiling their Tricks, Johns etc. And giving them what they think they need I have talked and interview so many girls over the years and they can size up a Trick in seconds and play the role that they think he needs or is looking for.

I notice how they would go over to this older local monger when I was in Rio early this year this guy had to be around 70 years old the girls told me he lost his wife to Cancer last year and he is lonely and he just want to talk and have his dick played with and suck on. BUT he can't fuck even with the blue pill he can't keep it up. With the Med's he is on.

Now your young local guys that go in there they could just want to do shit to these girls that maybe their wives or girlfriend don't want to do all the time maybe its the baby that keep her busy etc. So they go in there and want ANAL or just want to fuck some different pussy.

Also you have guys that look at x rated films all day on the internet and they want to do what they seen on those films to a real live female when they go to Rio. To me as long as you and the female of legal age agree to the act and the price there shouldn't be a problem with it.

Your older fat or out of shape monger with little money to work with maybe can't pull the young hot female in the street so he goes in the Terma's and play the play the King and the play boy role and get the hot chick in the Terma at a price of course .

For me I have a Lady a REAL girlfriend in my life and I like to get a different chick from time to time without dating and the BS I also like to still pull chicks from clubs for a one night stand also, just like I DON'T kiss these hookers on their mouth or EVEN think about eating out a hookers pussy or licking out her ass cheeks BUT some tricks live for that act .. I have a REAL lady I can do that with BUT for others that turn them on so knock yourself out ..

And for the guys that have a problem with me staying I am 6'5? In my post only the guys that are a lot shorter seem to have a issue with it? Wonder why? When I talk about flying 1st class taller guys with the problems I and WE have like having leg room on planes or riding in back of small taxis or dealing with hate from or dealing with jealous shorter guys get it.

And when guys talked about their time in the service the ones that have been in the service UNDERSTAND better what they are talking about the ones that NEVER been in the service can't understand and won't understand and those that haven't some have a problem with it this is WHY when I meet a person for the 1st time I ask them have they been in the service before this way I can know IF or can I talk about certain things and will they understand where I am coming from with the VA and other medical issues etc.

Just like some guys that been to college or play for Div 1 football program or belong in a Frat guys understand what they are talking about no big deal. Some guys on HERE that work for a big company and travel for a living and live overseas for a living talk ALL day about " how they are living in Rio on their company dime" and you don't see me or anyone having a problem with it do you? Hell I travel for jobs and still do, hell I lived around the world on Uncle Sam dime so what? And on a side note and IF Sperto and others have a problem with my posts if I talk about being 6'5 or my time in the service WHY are they and he still taking the time to read them? When he said he stop reading them a long time ago? Now that don't make any sense to me LOL " just joking" ha ha

Kid Cisco

[QUOTE=Kid Cisco;1306973]And for the guys that have a problem with me staying I am 6'5? In my post only the guys that are a lot shorter seem to have a issue with it?..... And when guys talked about their time in the service the ones that have been in the service UNDERSTAND better what they are talking about the ones that NEVER been in the service can't understand and won't understand..... [/QUOTE]
I don't think anybody here have any problem with you being 6'5, travelling first class or having served in the navy. I just can't see how that matters for your reports or how it can help others in their mongering.
Many of us on the forum have done military service (and not in the low prestige navy), but we have no need to mention it on a monger-forum.

For those of you that have an issue with Kid Ciscos posts, send a quick message to Jackson, the owner of this site. Just hit the "report post" button and send him a quick message to let him know what you think. Jackson is well aware of the "issue". I personally don't bother to read his posts as I believe that add zero value and just tend to disrupt the board. Further more they discourage other quality contributors from posting. Why would someone bother to spend a good deal of time writing a quality report when it just gets buried in waffle.

[QUOTE=Bubba Boy;1307066]For those of you that have an issue with Kid Ciscos posts, send a quick message to Jackson, the owner of this site. Just hit the "report post" button and send him a quick message to let him know what you think. Jackson is well aware of the "issue". I personally don't bother to read his posts as I believe that add zero value and just tend to disrupt the board. Further more they discourage other quality contributors from posting. Why would someone bother to spend a good deal of time writing a quality report when it just gets buried in waffle.[/QUOTE]I read just about every post on this board. And what I don't understand is why you fellas are all against Kid Cisco. He gives great tips and information. If I were to use a scale from 1 to 10, 1 being worst and 10 being best, I'd give him a 10. What are you fellas being so cliquish about? I personally know a handful of members on this board, but I do not know Kid Cisco.

None of my personal friends know him, but he also doesn't annoy any of him with his posts. I remember some of you were accusing him of being an "undercover Brasiliain" spying on ISG. You guys need to stop ganging up on one person because you don't like this or that. And if you say "Jackson is aware of the issue", what issue? And when he responds to you guys he seems to be diplomatic about it. This petty stuff over who and how to treat working girls shows that this board is becoming almost like Brazilcupid, where fellas seek programmas for housewives.

It seems that those who are against Kid Cisco are being very "antagonistic" towards him for no reason. If' I'm wrong, then refer what statement that he posted is the foundation of your complaint? Give some proof of why he should be ostracized as many of you are advocating.

[QUOTE=Bubba Boy;1307066]For those of you that have an issue with Kid Ciscos posts, send a quick message to Jackson, the owner of this site. Just hit the "report post" button and send him a quick message to let him know what you think. Jackson is well aware of the "issue". I personally don't bother to read his posts as I believe that add zero value and just tend to disrupt the board. Further more they discourage other quality contributors from posting. Why would someone bother to spend a good deal of time writing a quality report when it just gets buried in waffle.[/QUOTE]Is "waffle" a nice way of saying "crap"?

Tall, nice body, light blond shoulder length hair and decent face. She is very talkative, but gives porn start performance in the cabina. She wanted me to shoot my load in her mouth, but I could not resist and did the deed while standing up as I had her from behind against the wall. I am not a short guy, so being that she is not a short girl, this position was a great feel for me. 110r for the hour. She likes girls too, so she is a good candidate for a dupla.

This morena is the same Carol that was working at Ju Panteras just a few weeks ago. She is young (19) , and on the thick side if thats what you like. Not fat, just thick, but not a hard body either. Her service is decent. In my opinion, she needs some experience before she is can provide some good service. She just started this profession a few weeks ago. She is now working in Tijuca.

She is a tall, light skin mulata who has been working there for a fews months already. She is very nice to talk to, and she gave me very good service in the cabina for 40 minutes. I have never done less than an hour when going to the cabina on MC. However, with prices out of hand now, I went for the 40 minutes option. She was great. She gave me her all. Kissing, BBBJ, banged her in all psotions, including her cu! She is not the best looking one there, but is attractive. BTW, this encounter took place right before they closed MC a few weeks back. MC was nice, but I am not going back. Its over priced in my opinion.

This chick is defintiely hot, and she knows it. She used to take juice in the past, so as a result she still has a big clit. She has very sexy eyes, aside from a great body. She gave me a very good session in the cabina. However, keep in mind that she is in demand, and she knows it. After I did her, I saw her take to more guys upstairs during that same night. So she might try to hurry you to finish and she can get out and go on to the next guy. I had a little chat with her about that topic before I decided to take her to the cabina.

We were chatting for about 10-15 minutes, and she was pushing to go to the cabina. I told her I understand she is working and time is money, but I am going upstairs when I feel like going. I gave her serious stare when I said, and she gave me an expression that showed she was shocked and sorry. She knows I am a gringo, but I basically treated her like a brazilian would. I told her to take a walk around the boate and do her thing, she wasn't going to hurt my feelings (After all, who are we kidding, I was in a glorified *****house, LOL). Couple of other guys were talking to her, butshe kept facing me, and keeping an eye on me while I chatted to a couple of other garotas. She came back 10 minutes later, and we spent another 20 talking and making out before I decided to go upstairs. We chatted and she gave me an openning to ask her to go dancing with her to a club during the weekend. But this chick is high maint. I could read her like a book. I passed.

Honestly, I knew ahead of time before going into the club that I was not going to go to a cabina for at least an hour or two. I had been drinking quite a bit that afternoon two brazilian buddies who I was hanging out with on this day. I was drinking plenty of water in 4 x 4 to help me sober up and be clear headed so I could perform well and enjoy myself in the cabina. She is recommended, but not highly recommended. I spent 357R for an hour session around 8:30 pm, including drinks and entrance. My budiies spent between 500-600, however, they each took two girls on that night. Enjoy!

Well, just got to Rio, most of the others in First Class weren't as tall as me, one guy had me by an inch.

I'm off and running, reports coming.

Ps. Just kidding around. I have nothing against the frequent poster of height and rank.

If he's an ex-military guy, he'll understand the friendly ribbing of course. :)

Let me prefice the following by saying that Esche Cafe is a highend Cigar bar / Rest. Which is not a place for pay for play. I enjoy cigars / scotch, etc. So this place is a fine place for good cigar and great bar service. Good jazz music and mainly highend customers. BTW, great food as well. This place is mainly brazilians. Its not really a tourist attraction from what I have encountered there. Again, this is not a place for gdp's. However, I was there last month on a Thursday night and to my surprise, there were a good amount of single ladies drinking it up around 10 pm or so (I usually go during the day time). Please keep in mind there are many bussiness people there in suits and they have there clicks and so forth. Many of the ladies there are professionals and make very good salaries. But if you speak good basic portuguese and you live or work here in Rio, I think you can score here. Thats just my feel on the situation. I had a couple of nice chats with older ladies than me, but I got a good vibe, I could have continued that chat somewhere else with them. I had to leave because I had friends comming over to my apartment that night. So if you are up for a challenge in trying to meet some sophisticated, professional ladies, this place might have potential. I will be making another trip there before I head back to the states.

I have read an endless chit chat about Termas like L and C. I still luv since Brazil got so much to offer so enjoy while it last. Things change and you got to change accordingly. If two Termas shut down so what. It won't make your trip miserable. Hey I had this 22yrs old hot chick agree for R$100 for 2 hrs completa programa from Balcony corner 5 hrs before catching my flight back in MAY. During my trip in London last month, I banged a hot young Euro chiks every night for A level and CIM. I m I have realized that Balcony is a mixture of sharks and chicks who are seriously out there to make money. I had to interview almost 10 different chiks before I found someone to make the right deal with the rational price. It's not the end of the world. Got a free ticket for 50, 000k miles on AA. Com, and I just can't wait to have a Brasileira sitting on by in 2 weeks at 10AM.

Agreed. Done.

[QUOTE=Bubba Boy;1307066]For those of you that have an issue with Kid Ciscos posts, send a quick message to Jackson, the owner of this site. Just hit the "report post" button and send him a quick message to let him know what you think. Jackson is well aware of the "issue". I personally don't bother to read his posts as I believe that add zero value and just tend to disrupt the board. Further more they discourage other quality contributors from posting. Why would someone bother to spend a good deal of time writing a quality report when it just gets buried in waffle.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Mangera;1307121]Let me prefice the following by saying that Esche Cafe is a highend Cigar bar / Rest. Which is not a place for pay for play. I enjoy cigars / scotch, etc. So this place is a fine place for good cigar and great bar service. Good jazz music and mainly highend customers. BTW, great food as well. This place is mainly brazilians. Its not really a tourist attraction from what I have encountered there. Again, this is not a place for gdp's. However, I was there last month on a Thursday night and to my surprise, there were a good amount of single ladies drinking it up around 10 pm or so (I usually go during the day time). Please keep in mind there are many bussiness people there in suits and they have there clicks and so forth. Many of the ladies there are professionals and make very good salaries. But if you speak good basic portuguese and you live or work here in Rio, I think you can score here. Thats just my feel on the situation. I had a couple of nice chats with older ladies than me, but I got a good vibe, I could have continued that chat somewhere else with them. I had to leave because I had friends comming over to my apartment that night. So if you are up for a challenge in trying to meet some sophisticated, professional ladies, this place might have potential. I will be making another trip there before I head back to the states.[/QUOTE]I agree. I like the Leblon location only for the fact that there tend to be some groups of chicks there (older like you say). The Centro location on the other hand is fantastic for ambiance. All dudes in suits or rich older guys with bottles of whiskey. I find it a much more masculine, old style vibe. And if I'm just up for a smoke and a drink (and a great steak sandwich) I go there. The fact that it is basically 1-2 blocks from 4x4, T65, Cancun, and 502 is just icing on the smokey cake.

[QUOTE=Sperto; 1306663]Eric lives in Rio. If I understand him right he has some favourite GP's he can call who comes over and give him good service at a decent rate. A good set-up. If it means that he has to stay away from one of Rios many termas that's not a big deal.

Treat the ladies well and you get your reward. No need for fake macho-attitude giving "the h*kers cum shots in their eyes and noses" just to show them who is the big boss. They will only despise you and give you a bad service. However, gringos with that sad attitude helps other gringos, who treat GP's with respect, to get discounted sessions and freebies. Thank you.[/QUOTE]Man I go away for a few days and miss a shitstorm of posts. Anyway, Sperto and Mangera are right. You guys who don't live here probably don't get it.

There is a crazy information network among GDPs whether working in Ts or used-to-work-in-Ts.

In this case, at least 2 of the girls I see at my apartment used to work at MC. If they hear that I am going there again, they will either (a) try to raise their rates or (be) be much less inclined to spend as much time as they do with me now for, max, R$200 (or do the things they do with me today at that price). It's that simple. It may be BS but it's how they think / act.

In addition, a girl I've been seeing at the apartment just went back to work at MC. So now, if I go there, (a) I have to fuck her at MC prices and (be) I probably will lose her coming over. If I go there and don't fuck her, and instead fuck someone else, I definitely will lose her coming over. If she wasn't such a great girl to frolic with, I wouldn't care. But I don't want to lose the R$200 couple-hour visits with a girl who has given me some of the best sex of my life.

When you're here for a while, you have to tread a little more carefully to preserve what you've cultivated. I think other long term residents like Bubba Boy would back me up on this (and he'd say I don't tread lightly enough). Now granted maybe some shorter-term visitors can get away with fucking whomever in whatever T, and still having plenty of "freebies" from Facebook, so more power to 'them. That sounds great. It's just not my experience.

(Having said that, there are certainly a few of these girls that I could not pay or could not have paid -- they certainly would have been freebies ... but I prefer to pay my R$200 and leave no question about what type of arrangement it is, which minimizes the chances of them complaining later. Some of you may think "Cartman you pussy why not bang em for free anyway now and fuck whatever they say or do later!" ... to which my answer is, the Cartman likes to minimize drama).

[QUOTE=Eric Cartman; 1307461]Man I go away for a few days and miss a shitstorm of posts. Anyway, Sperto and Mangera are right. You guys who don't live here probably don't get it.

There is a crazy information network among GDPs whether working in Ts or used-to-work-in-Ts.

In this case, at least 2 of the girls I see at my apartment used to work at MC. If they hear that I am going there again, they will either (a) try to raise their rates or (be) be much less inclined to spend as much time as they do with me now for, max, R$200 (or do the things they do with me today at that price). It's that simple. It may be BS but it's how they think / act.

In addition, a girl I've been seeing at the apartment just went back to work at MC. So now, if I go there, (a) I have to fuck her at MC prices and (be) I probably will lose her coming over. If I go there and don't fuck her, and instead fuck someone else, I definitely will lose her coming over. If she wasn't such a great girl to frolic with, I wouldn't care. But I don't want to lose the R$200 couple-hour visits with a girl who has given me some of the best sex of my life.[/QUOTE]I hear what you're saying but you have to at least be able to understand how this type of thinking is ridiculous to a lot of us. Think about it, a prostitute who makes money giving blow jobs and taking it in the ass will refuse to come over to your apt anymore if you bang another chick at the terma she works at. Come on. What do you tell her about the dicks she took in the ass that day? Do you tell her not to come over if she's sucked any balls that day other than yours? I mean this stuff is so ridiculous it's not even funny. These prostitutes are having their way with you and you're allowing it. I mean I do some crazy shit in my life too sometimes, but I can admit it's crazy. I think you guys should be able to at least admit that this type of thinking is crazy.

Also, I think this whole thing is being confused with disrespecting the girls. They are totally different issues. I'm always very respectful to all the GDPs I meet. We usually have a very pleasant experience.

First-

Mangera, thnks for your recent posts that updated the board on your recent terma activity.

With respect to Cartman I am not one to criticize another monger's approach, and a s long it works for him, cool with me. Brazilian GDPs are complicated creatures who are experts at maintianing these mini relationships and special arrangements. I suspect that Mr Cartman has several of these "special arrangements" ongoing. As you all know Brazilian girls are extremely jealous and competitive, they hate to lose face or get embarrassed. I am sure if he tried or wanted. Eric can or wouid get freebies from the garotas but that entails a certain level of drama that a permanent resident who uses his apt for his activities would want to avoid. So he pays them a fair rate to STFU and go away.

The girl knows in exchange for great sex, eric is there if somehow she didn't make enough money in a particular week. Eric is HER special gringo and in return as part of the agreement will not diss her by fucking her friends. What about her other clients? Those are regular customers who pay regular rates as part of her job. Does she know that Cartman is fucking other women, of course as long its not in her face at her job and god forbid the girl he chooses to fuclk is somehow considered lower status LOL. I wonder how former Centaurus girls are dealing with this? LOL, some of them are bit snobbish towards other terma girls.

Its silly I know but its the game gents.

Lastly as far as disrespecting the girls.if you ask a terma girl about CIM and COF and she agrees, I don't see a problem as long she is not being forced.

[QUOTE=Carrib; 1307523]Its silly I know but its the game gents.

Lastly as far as disrespecting the girls. If you ask a terma girl about CIM and COF and she agrees, I don't see a problem as long she is not being forced.[/QUOTE]You're right it is silly, but what the hell. Just curious I have NEVER had a terma girl not agree to COF (some have dodged though). Is that everyone else's experiece too?

I don't know why these guys in their 60's and 70's continue to take all these meds that give them erection problems. Quit taking the meds and die a little sooner. I was taking a bunch of meds morning and night to control my lipid profile, and noticed I was having problems getting it up, which I never had before. I decided to dump all the meds, and now I can get it up like a champ. I workout now which helps, but I know I will probably die 5 years sooner. Who needs those depends years anyway.

[quote=smatte;1292963]figured out photo upload from iphone. enjoy sol at centaurus.[/quote]wow! outstanding body on her. nice tight flat stomach, great fake tits and great picture of you up her firm round can. looks like you enjoy a good ride in her [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord116][CodeWord116][/url] chute. congrats.

buttguy

i have a local friend that defines well the carioca character: "in rio voçe negocia tudo. tudo!". in other words, everything is subject to negotiation and negotiating itself is part of the fun.

on the other side, if someone thinks that psychological violence and humilliating attitudes are the way to go in brazil, he's for a world of pain himself.

regards cisco: i couldn't care less if he enjoys facials, [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord101][CodeWord101][/url], rimmings or goats. whatever makes him tingle, if mutually consented, it's ok with me. really.

[QUOTE=Carrib;1307523]I wonder how former Centaurus girls are dealing with this? LOL, some of them are bit snobbish towards other terma girls.[/QUOTE]I was worried about this too, thinking that if they perceive they have stepped down in the world, their attitude would suffer. But from my small sample of two, I didn't find any let down in service at MC the other night. See my report below. In fact, if anything, I found a stepped up attitude. Sometimes, you get a scare in your job, you survive it and you are re-energized, just happy to still be alive. Seems to be the case. All good for now.

A little more info. Everything was shut tight as a drum on Sunday. Checked out 22 and another dive on Toneleros, nada. Monday, open. 22 has had a small face lift. They added a little wall with a window at the top of the stairs to make it look like a real establishment, I guess. It is still just as nasty but the talent is a little better than it was in the past. Didn't like the punk they had at the window. Not very friendly.

[QUOTE=Mangera;1307121]Let me prefice the following by saying that Esche Cafe is a highend Cigar bar / Rest. Which is not a place for pay for play. I enjoy cigars / scotch, etc. So this place is a fine place for good cigar and great bar service. Good jazz music and mainly highend customers. BTW, great food as well. This place is mainly brazilians. Its not really a tourist attraction from what I have encountered there. Again, this is not a place for gdp's. However, I was there last month on a Thursday night and to my surprise, there were a good amount of single ladies drinking it up around 10 pm or so (I usually go during the day time). Please keep in mind there are many bussiness people there in suits and they have there clicks and so forth. Many of the ladies there are professionals and make very good salaries. But if you speak good basic portuguese and you live or work here in Rio, I think you can score here. Thats just my feel on the situation. I had a couple of nice chats with older ladies than me, but I got a good vibe, I could have continued that chat somewhere else with them. I had to leave because I had friends comming over to my apartment that night. So if you are up for a challenge in trying to meet some sophisticated, professional ladies, this place might have potential. I will be making another trip there before I head back to the states.[/QUOTE]I agree, I was having dinner once with a woman a couple of blocks away, she got a text from her girlfriends who were in Esch cafe, we went there after dinner. There were a few women in there Friday night and they were available. After that we went a few blocks away to another bar called Blacks Bar but a younger crowd, but many available women. That whole area is full of bars and restaurants, if you do a little hopping in the neighborhood sure you can get lucky.

[QUOTE=Carrib;1306925]It depends on the girl but I have had women demand anal, and that I not only fuck them harder but want their hair pulled and ass smacked hard while yelling "gostoso! Fode sua puta!" and this is not your playful slap the booty during doggiestyle.[/QUOTE]Yeah this is all in fun, some of them love it. I used too have girls come up to me in Help who knew me and ask me to talk to them this way and I would laugh and call them names and they would say don't stop I'm going to cum right here. Or another girl would come up to me and say you can call me any name you want tonight I can be anybody you want me to be. Just good fun.

[QUOTE=Sangue Bon;1307840]Yeah this is all in fun, some of them love it. I used too have girls come up to me in Help who knew me and ask me to talk to them this way and I would laugh and call them names and they would say don't stop I'm going to cum right here. Or another girl would come up to me and say you can call me any name you want tonight I can be anybody you want me to be. Just good fun.[/QUOTE]Back in 2008 in Rio I met a 19 year old who'd seem to get pass my door man at 2am. Come to find out she make her money at Help but the bus to Botafogo had stopped. She'd come to my apartment and I'd fuck her. She wanted her hair pulled, ass slapped and butt fucked. She didn't cost me a dime. She loved it hard fast and furious. 2 kids later, by Brasilians, and at 25 she's telling me all the nasty things that most mongers like to hear. Yeah it depends on the girl, but if you old enough you will know most females are as naughty as we are, especially the ones we think are saints. If you find a girl in the GDP zone, and she gives sex for money, then why not do what you can't do at home.

I am coming back to the land of the bundas. I have lost all of my contacts including a few connects to upscale apts on atlantica. No matter but my ticket is booked for September.

Monte Carlo jumping again tonight. 49 girls. Unreal. Only took a single tonight. Incredibly tight 20 yr old spinner from Petropolis. Samanta. After the session, she was dazed and confused. Came back to the boate, had another drink with her, thinking I'm going to have to marry her. Good grief. All the girls at MC I have been with recently have been hot and I mean like deprived. This is really different. Of course, it's winter and that always had an effect but this is really different.

On the way out, I have a little chat with the tout they have on the corner at Atlantica. First he tries to sell me on 22 and I let him know been there, do it sometimes. Then we start to talk about the issues with the termas closings and almost the first thing he says is about how high the quality is in Monte Carlo, as a by product. This is absolutely true. Then we talk about the trend and he is very concerned as he says that Balcony is being hassled now with "6 or 7 court" issues. He says that the owner got a permit that allows the girls to be there (what is that about?) and that this is being challenged. He says they are trying to shut down Balcony. Of course, remember this is from a guy touting Monte Carlo and 22. But he seemed sincere and probably is a reliable source. He also said he had heard the cops found a bunch of cocaine in Centaurus and the cops got video of fcking in Centaurus. Like this is a big surprise to anybody. The cops are using the video to prosecute them for prostitution. He asked me if I had actually been to L and I told him no, but my amigo has been over there in the last week and there were legal documents tacked to the door. Anyway, that was his story tonight.

As I left he asked me for a donation since he would get R20 for taking me in. So I gave him a 20. What the hell.

And, for the record:

Entrada 80
cabina 40 mins 80
attendente de cabina 200

Tonight, my entrada was FREE. Frequent ff. I asked them how to get tot he next level (gold?) where the next garota is free. The girls liked that one.

[QUOTE=SlimHoleDrill; 1307885]Monte Carlo jumping again tonight. 49 girls. Unreal. Only took a single tonight. Incredibly tight 20 yr old spinner from Petropolis. Samanta. After the session, she was dazed and confused. Came back to the boate, had another drink with her, thinking I'm going to have to marry her. Good grief. All the girls at MC I have been with recently have been hot and I mean like deprived. This is really different. Of course, it's winter and that always had an effect but this is really different.

On the way out, I have a little chat with the tout they have on the corner at Atlantica. First he tries to sell me on 22 and I let him know been there, do it sometimes. Then we start to talk about the issues with the termas closings and almost the first thing he says is about how high the quality is in Monte Carlo, as a by product. This is absolutely true. Then we talk about the trend and he is very concerned as he says that Balcony is being hassled now with "6 or 7 court" issues. He says that the owner got a permit that allows the girls to be there (what is that about?) and that this is being challenged. He says they are trying to shut down Balcony. Of course, remember this is from a guy touting Monte Carlo and 22. But he seemed sincere and probably is a reliable source. He also said he had heard the cops found a bunch of cocaine in Centaurus and the cops got video of fcking in Centaurus. Like this is a big surprise to anybody. The cops are using the video to prosecute them for prostitution. He asked me if I had actually been to L and I told him no, but my amigo has been over there in the last week and there were legal documents tacked to the door. Anyway, that was his story tonight.

As I left he asked me for a donation since he would get R20 for taking me in. So I gave him a 20. What the hell.

And, for the record:

Entrada 80.

Cabina 40 mins 80.

Attendente de cabina 200.

Tonight, my entrada was FREE. Frequent ff. I asked them how to get tot he next level (gold?) where the next garota is free. The girls liked that one.[/QUOTE]Good info man! Looks like MC is the way to go if you want some dime pieces! Ill be in Rio in September and going to try an gdp from barravip for the first time! Is was.

Hoping cent would be open by then but it doesn't look like it.

The rumor is true. Aerporto is open again.

12 PM to 12 AM. About 10 girls there at 2:00 PM, they said around 5 or 6 they have about 30. They said some are ex Centaurus as well. I didn't think it was spectacular, but for a nooner, pretty good. A real terma open at noon, not a prive. I expect the late afternoon would be quite nice. I found a little spinner with the unusual combination of large natural tits and smallish tight bunda, pretty face, simpatico. Wow, don't see that too often. 21 yo. YMMV.

Entrada: R50.

40 minutes 250.

Caipirinha R15.

Nice little cabinas with sink.

This would also be a good option to stop off on the way to the airport for a late flight.

BTW, I asked about the rumor that they had flipped to a gay spa, but they denied it. They were closed for about 3 months, but I was not able to understand why.

"London prostitutes 'cleaned from the streets.

The London Olympics are not big business for everyone. Sex workers say they are being cleared from the streets around the stadium to make the area more presentable for the Games.

While Britain's limp economy hopes for an Olympic boost, police in Newham, the deprived east London borough that is home to the stadium, have closed some 80 brothels in the 18 months to March, according to a study by a local councillor.

"For the last two years we've seen a real increase in police activity in relation to sex work in the Olympic host boroughs," said Georgina Perry, who runs Open Doors, a government project supporting east London prostitutes. Prostitution is legal in Britain, but keeping a brothel is outlawed, as are other related activities such as curb-crawling."

If it's happening in London, IT will happen in Rio.

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Hello all together!

I'm new to this forum and have not much experience. I want to visit Rio next month. Although I've read a lot in the forum

But have a few simple questions. :

1. Where can I find the prettiest and "cheapest" girls in Rio?

2. What do I have to pay for an hour "all inclusive sex"?

3. Is it easy to meet women in clubs or discos and to take them to the hotel?

4. Is there something like brothels? What can you tell me about the prices?

Many thanks for your answers.

Ok Vets,

First, please take it easy on me. I do rtff, but I do like recommendations as well.

Few questions:

What is the ideal area to set up shop? Leme Beach?

Should I rent a condo or are some hotels gf? Recommndations?

Is 9 nights too much time? I plan to do a some tours / excursions as well as scour the city some. Will I get bored?

Are there clubs / discos that are not part of the trade?

Can you party hard here?

Is it all p4p? Is there a reasonable chance of picking up a non pro? I'm not delusional that I will be paying in some form or another, but I'd rather get freaky with someone who has less mileage than the termas chicas?

Should I say f' it and go to Columbia?

I'm looking at traveling toward the end of Feb 2013.

Thanks in advance!

Is it a bad idea to visit during Carnival?

[QUOTE=AlwaysHorny 2;1308534]Is it a bad idea to visit during Carnival?[/QUOTE]Flights will probably be 2-3 times as expensive as it normally would be. Accommodations are also through the roof in pricing. There are some beachfront apartments that I have rented in the $80-100 dollars per day that require a 10 day stay during Carnaval they get close $10, 000 for those 10 nights. If money isn't an issue, then you have answered your own question.

[QUOTE=Java Man; 1308323]"London prostitutes 'cleaned from the streets.

The London Olympics are not big business for everyone. Sex workers say they are being cleared from the streets around the stadium to make the area more presentable for the Games.

][/QUOTE]Was most recently in London last weekend. Who uses streetwalkers in that town anyway? Business as usual through adultwork et. Al. Although some on-line ads said unavailable during Olympics. Guess why. Anybody on scene at Beijing four years' ago knows about the Olympic crackdown there. Temporary. Don't even think about comparing this to Rio.

[QUOTE=AlwaysHorny 2;1308528]Will I get bored?[/QUOTE]Rio is one of the best cities in the world. Period. If you're boring, you'll be bored. If not, game on.

well, you can get a lot of information if you ask. had a programma with an old friend from centaurus, now at mc. after the deed, started talking about the story about the night they raided centaurus. of course, she was there. i didn't follow a lot of what she said. she became pretty animated after initially being guarded. basically, what i got from it was that it was very non-confrontational. the police came in and in an orderly way, invited people to take their leave and of course, everybody took them up on that. she said the general manager was arrested. yay. couldn't happen to a better person. a jerk imho. i think she said she took the guy she was with and made a quick set up with him to go somewhere else, but i am not sure of that at all. i was trying to find out how they did it. after all, a lot of the rooms had to be occupied. did the cops let them finish or go around banging on doors or what? sounds like they sort of stayed downstairs and just drained the place.

also, i ran into an old friend from l'uomo and for those of you who are wondering about some old friends, for what it is worth. bia is over at cancun (plan to check this out if i can tomorrow) , [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url] has gone to sao paulo and, get this, pietra is supposed to have married an italian. she told me she was going to italy and then nothing happened for about 6 months, then she totally disappeared. so, married lady in italy. i totally believe it.

Don't know what it is going to take for some guys here to get it. The orders are up high in the government to clean up Rio. This is not local government or police this time.

Does this mean prostitution will end? Of course not. Does this mean visible prostitution will end? Yes. This is not speculation. This is not the sky if falling. It just is.

[QUOTE=Baggio67;1308595]Flights will probably be 2-3 times as expensive as it normally would be. Accommodations are also through the roof in pricing. There are some beachfront apartments that I have rented in the $80-100 dollars per day that require a 10 day stay during Carnaval they get close $10, 000 for those 10 nights. If money isn't an issue, then you have answered your own question.[/QUOTE]On the other hand: You'll live a unique experience when all the city goes wild. Really wild. Well, not all of them, a lot of cariocas escape directly to Buzios and Angras.

If there's something that sticks in my mind through all the years is the wild Carnival I experienced in Rio ten years ago. Help was still open. Naked girls dancing on your table. Experiencing Sambodromo until early at dawn. Great parties. Wild. Kissing total strangers on the street. Erotism everywhere. And the music. You got to hear those drums. They are better than a rock concert.

A hint: You don't need to spend a fortune. Plan in advance. Find somewhere to crash. And think that most of the time you'll be on the streets, partying or at the Sambodromo. So you don't need a suite at the Copacabana Palace. Just somewhere to sleep and change. And survive.

I don't do it every year. But I recommend the Rio Carnival at least once in a lifetime.

Arrived here yesterday and MC was high on my list due to recent posts. I got there at 5:45pm and decided not to pull the trigger early and look at the inventory. Including myself. 6 other guys in the place. There were 22 girls there, I counted and all were in the main area. Between 7-8 p. M, I counted the arrival of 15 new faces and I'am sure a few were in the rooms that I missed. So. At least 40+ women there and over 75% were in the 7+ range. Yummy. I decided on Carol. 23. No kids. All the right answers to my questions. Tight body and a rear that was asking for banging. After some sensual dancing from her, I went to work on her. The girl was a little dazed. More like she needed a decent lay after a series of bad ones. I'am not the best but I do ok. She said she worked at Centaurus, I did not ask details about the raid etc, I had other plans. Very good oral skills, verbally animated, rides like a champ. Overall a definite repeat. She is levaing for SP for a few days but she will come to my apt. When she returns for the rematch.

This is a good time to be here. The dollar is a 2:1 more or less and the stock is high in the termas. I will visit 4x4 next to see if the talent is high there also.

Enjoy!

[QUOTE=Exec Talent; 1308722]Don't know what it is going to take for some guys here to get it. The orders are up high in the government to clean up Rio. This is not local government or police this time.

Does this mean prostitution will end? Of course not. Does this mean visible prostitution will end? Yes. This is not speculation. This is not the sky if falling. It just is.[/QUOTE]Completely agree. And that means that Balcony will be out. Sooner or later.

But the Centro termas, and the rest of the termas (as long as they keep a low profile and pay their dues) will stay.

[QUOTE=AlwaysHorny 2;1308528]What is the ideal area to set up shop? Leme Beach?[/QUOTE]Leme's fine.

[QUOTE]Should I rent a condo or are some hotels gf? Recommndations?[/QUOTE]A condo for 9 days is reasonable.

[QUOTE]Is 9 nights too much time? I plan to do a some tours / excursions as well as scour the city some. Will I get bored?[/QUOTE]Definitely not.

[QUOTE]Are there clubs / discos that are not part of the trade?[/QUOTE]Yes.

[QUOTE]Can you party hard here?[/QUOTE]Yes.

[QUOTE]Is it all p4p? Is there a reasonable chance of picking up a non pro? I'm not delusional that I will be paying in some form or another, but I'd rather get freaky with someone who has less mileage than the termas chicas?[/QUOTE]It's not all p4p. But unless you are rich, attractive, have good street cred and reasonable portuguese (or at least two out of three) I'd be inclined to say wait until you get to know the place better.

[QUOTE]Is it a bad idea to visit during Carnival?[/QUOTE]Probably for what you want, yes. Accommodation costs more especially. Carnaval is a good reason to go to Rio, but also expensive.

[QUOTE]Thanks in advance![/QUOTE]You're welcome

[QUOTE=HoleRanger; 1308749]he is levaing for SP for a few days but she will come to my apt. When she returns for the rematch.

This is a good time to be here. The dollar is a 2:1 more or less and the stock is high in the termas. I will visit 4x4 next to see if the talent is high there also.

Enjoy![/QUOTE]What did she say she would charge you for the apartment visit (and for how long)? Just curious.

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Did you get any answers? I have the same questions. This will be my first time in Rio. I will stay 4 days.

[QUOTE=FickFuck; 1308458]Hello all together!

I'm new to this forum and have not much experience. I want to visit Rio next month. Although I've read a lot in the forum

But have a few simple questions. :

1. Where can I find the prettiest and "cheapest" girls in Rio?

2. What do I have to pay for an hour "all inclusive sex"?

3. Is it easy to meet women in clubs or discos and to take them to the hotel?

4. Is there something like brothels? What can you tell me about the prices?

Many thanks for your answers.[/QUOTE]

I just wanted to thank you guys that are on the ground NOW and giving updates and filed reports on Tier 1 Termas like (Slimholedrill and HoleRanger) and any others I forgot to name you guys are taking time out of your trip to give us reports on what is going on so thanks you don't or didn't have to do it ...

To me this should be a Monger in Rio DREAM right now to have some of the higher price Termas shut down and have the top dimes in them run to other lower price Termas this way you don't have to run around paying and jumping in and out of Taxis to go to different Termas I would have LOVED to see these dimes fighting over attention from the Tricks in these places now LOL LOL lets keep in mind there is just so much or so many dollars / reals to go around many girls will be left out and go hungry rent needs to be paid and bills need to be paid..

This is WHY I can't even think of someone living in Rio (with so many hot chicks in one or two places in the Copa) and having some hooker telling them they have to limited when and where they can go and JUST she them LOL I mean I can't hate on a chick with game but you have to have better sense and game then them these chicks they have their 200 reals trick they see a few time a month and they have their 300-500 reals Trick they see once a month and some of these chicks are so good that they have hook up and met other tricks in the same building when they are leaving another tricks room LOL I have caught and met tons of girls that were escorts or girls from Club Help leaving guys rooms and I would hang around the lobby and catch them going out and talk to them and we would head RIGHT back up to my room I would get them for 100-150 reals LOL

The point I am making is this American guys we really need to know our worth! And value what we bring to the table. With so many of these girls getting displace from Club Help closing down and with these Termas closing down guys should be able to call the shots! Not ask how much BUT tell them what you are willing to pay and for how long you want and if they don't agree move on to the next! With 40+ chicks in these Termas fighting for attention and making money a Monger should stand his ground and don't come off needed and thirsty for some ass. There are just to many options for a monger living or a tourist in Rio right now.

I hate to think how a monger would feel after ALL these Termas shut down and most of the top dimes run off to Europe or run off to the States and get married and all you have left is these hood rats from VM working in small apts that IF you didn't get there by 12 noon they have already fuck 12 tricks already LOL LOL

And trust me I get it and many guys that I know that live in Rio now and other places get it too from what I have learned over the years from living around the world and knowing guys that also live around the world is that time goes by fast! And you have to make good use of your time when you are there take classes or join a gym and meet as many locals as you can that isn't into trickin and spending ALL their money on hookers this way you will get a chance to meet non pros and when you do fuck a chick she isn't setting her iphone "timer" to tell you when your time is up LOL LOL

Also thanks SlimholeDrill letting the guys on here know that Aerporto have reopen is some good intel I have always LOVE going to that place at one point I would ONLY see girls in that place many years ago at one time they would ONLY hire college girls in them one of the things to get hire there is you couldn't have work at another Termas before this had to be your VERY 1st Terma that you work in and you had to be in some type of school. I met a girl there that was going to Med school and she would go back and forth from the USA and Rio working at Aerporto she told me that most of the guys are older business guys that go there and just want to talk business and with each other and like talking to smart girls and have a drink or two and go home a few would do a session a few times a week.

Most of the time I post my post for newbies or rookies or for VETS that still have a open ear to hear something different from another point of view, I try to stress to guys once again know your value and know your worth you have the power and IF you give or gave these hookers power over you take it back ASAP! They won't respect you at all NO female respect a guy she can boss around or tell what to do. The business I am in the real world I meet lots of background singers and background dancers and models and they hate guys that kiss their asses or tell them how fine or how great looking they are over and over again. Going into these Termas now a monger should feel he have the power now because many of these girls will go home BROKE! And if they don't or is unwilling to spread their ass cheeks and take a dick up their ass or allow pictures or you should be able to DEMAND she licks under your balls asking with " respect" I may add lol lol if not a monger should have at least 12-15 others hot looking dimes to pick from that will do it LOL.

This is why a monger living in Rio or in ANY city in the world should realize he have options to use your feet and move on to the next one even when I was flipping houses some time ago I would walk away if the deal wasn't what I wanted or when you buy a car you don't get the deal you want walk away there are always other cars and females to pick from ..

You have to take control! I go into night clubs just to see how many girls I can to to BUY me drinks! lol That's right buy me drinks! So many guys are willing to run up to these chicks offering to buy them drinks and hand bags and shoes and pay their rent etc. Hell if a Termas chick or a chick in a night club ask me to buy them a drink I always say WHY? I don't know you. I have to talk and get to know you 1st and see IF I want to even have you sit beside me to even share a drink with you. How about you buy the 1st round and I will buy the second round! Just try that and see how many girls you will have wondering about you and wanted to get to know you. IF she just a hooker trying to take from you she will get up and move to the next trick either why you won't be wasting your money on a chick that isn't interested in you just your wallet.

BTW I am looking at this 2012 Summer Olympics games opening tonight on TV and this remind me how things went down in LA in 84 when I was Station there and also in Korea in 88 and also in Atlanta in 96 ALL these cities are and was trying to put on a good face for the rest of the world and they didn't want the world to see all the hookers running wild in their city LOL I don't know when I am coming back, I am glad I went to Rio early this year because it will NEVER be the same I am afraid to say so if you live there NOW or is going to visit it soon have fun DON'T allow some hooker that let you fuck her for 200 reals KEEP you from finding other hookers that you may want to fuck and maybe they will allow you to fuck them for far less or for free who knows? With these places closing down MANY of these girls won't have many options that decides to stay in Rio so man up !! don't worry about these girls losing so called face ...you have to ONLY worry about you losing your self respect and losing and wasting your time and money .. and just being a Trick when she put you in her " Trick bag ".. google that term " TRICK BAG".. on your Urban Dictionary on the internet and see what it means for some of you that don't know what the term means I have seen to many of these hookers place guys in a tick bag ..

Kid Cisco

[QUOTE=Eric Cartman;1309013]What did she say she would charge you for the apartment visit (and for how long)? Just curious.[/QUOTE]I offered no money and stated I would not pay her cash but I would take her to lunch and if she is really good, she would receive a nice gift from Victoria's secret. It's still paying but the decision was hers, she did ask that I call so we shall see. I have two non pros that I met that will be getting my attention, the first one is set for 3 pm today. I do like to visit the termas but there are countless options.

Enjoy!

Not even close! The talent level at 4x4 vs. Monte Carlo. I arrive around 6 p. M, there were about 15 girls there and at least 40+ men. Most of the guys were locals flashing their chest. The ratio of men to women was about 3:1. The girls are thick generally, it's ok but I do like them a bit slimmer, I did spot 2 that caught my attention but their attitudes were all wrong. I ordered a rum / coke, sat and looked for a bit. I did notice a few more new faces around 7 pm but there were still far more men than women. Finally, I settled on Tina, a little thicker than I like them but what the heck! She had all the right answers to my questions and she was not bashful in the boite. After some small talk and groping we headed back to the room.

I barely got out of my robe and the girl was all over me. She told me she has not had an orgasm in awhile and it showed. She was giving me some BBBJ while I was still disrobing. Hmmm. This could be interesting! Next, I just layed on the bed and let her continue with the BJ. After about 10 mins, I flipped her on her back and let my trusty "Pocket Rocket" introduce himself. She was a screamer and she was cumming so hard it looked like vanilla ice cream flowing. After a wiped down on to several positions and once again, she was flowing. All in all, a good experience. Would I repeat. No. Not really my type. She was a 6. 5 in looks and about the same with the body. There was a little chemistry but just a bit bigger than I like them. Total damage. R$340. Room 60 mins (had a shower) , entrance, girls fee. 2 rum / cokes and a beer.

Visit if you like them a little thicker with plenty of junk in the trunk. Enjoy

She is a short milata with a cute face and big tits. What a disappointment. She talks toomuch, wants to actually give you a massage, and is extrememly lazy. She uses her teeth while doing oral, and expects you to do all the work. All in the mean time complenting you and smiling. What a weasel. It ranks as the worst lay I have had in Brazil in all my years. Stay away folks. Go with Manuela or Natasha. Safer bet.

So one of the things that bugs me, working in Brazil, is that nobody ever accepts blame. It's never their fault. They never take responsibility.

I was on vacation for the first time in 2 years, and I went to process payroll for our business using the online banking system from our brasil bank. Except it didn't process. And said my limit had been exceeded. Turns out the bank lowered all our limits, without telling us, to something crazy little like R$20K. So I bitched and it was the ONE time the bank actually apologized and said "Our bad. Sorry!". I was stunned. I saved the email.

So anyway, tonight I'm coming back with my friend, his brazilian girlfriend, and a brazilian girl I like. We're in Leblon and grab a cab to head back to copa. The driver clearly understands where we're going but "goes to take the beach". And this at 10. 30pm on a Saturday night. When he should have just gone straight down Ataulfo de Paiva into Ipanema and from there down Nossa Senhora. Except he fucks up even worse when he reaches the beach, and there's no turn-back to let him head towards Copa. So he starts heading to Barra and there's just no turn. I ask him where he intends to turn and he says "up ahead". Yeah right. So he reaches the end of Leblon beach where it starts to go up the hill, and there's a big "No U-Turn" sign. And he realizes he's out of options and swings the U-turn. And we start heading back to Copa. And this whole detour (desvio) has added at least R$5 to the meter, if not more.

So we get to Copa and our destination. The meter says R$22 and he pulls out the little chart. I hand him a R$20 note and say in porto,"that should be enough, right?" and he says, um, no it's R$24 reading of the chart. And I say,"Amigo, what about the discount for the detour? It was at least R$5 on the meter." And he gets all upset and says "I'm working here, give me a break." Fucker. Take fucking responsibility. So look in my wallet and pull out R$2 in coins. Tell him this is all the change I have. And he still keeps on about how its R$24. Motherfucker. Own up to trying to bone us a little with the beach thing, but fucking it up and adding too much to the trip. But he won't budge. And I can't risk a drawn out argument over R$5. So I toss a $5 at him instead of the coins and head out, telling him it's a disgrace and he should be ashamed. Meh.

It's not the money. It's the principal.

[QUOTE=Baggio67;1308595]Flights will probably be 2-3 times as expensive as it normally would be. Accommodations are also through the roof in pricing. There are some beachfront apartments that I have rented in the $80-100 dollars per day that require a 10 day stay during Carnaval they get close $10, 000 for those 10 nights. If money isn't an issue, then you have answered your own question.[/QUOTE]I went to Rio for carnival Feb of 2011. The price for my flight from JFK to GIG was $924. 70 round trip. I booked my filght in Oct. 2010.

We rented a 3 bedroom / 2 baths apartment for $4, 180 for 10 days. So thats $140 per person / per night. The apartment had cable tv, internet, A / C, doorman. It was 1/2 block from the beach and 1 block from the Balcony. Carnival is worth going atleast once. The Sombadome was nice, but we had to stand.

I like the parades and parties that were on the street. They party none stop in Rio.

The only thing I will suggest is to either get to Rio 6 or 7 days before Carnival or leave 6 or 7 days after Carnival. I say this becuase most of the termas or privies are close or if they are open there are not to many girls. We stayed from Feb 29. March 10. Carnival was from March 5 to March 8. Businesses didn't back in full swing until March 10th.

[QUOTE=Eric Cartman; 1309281]So one of the things that bugs me, working in Brazil, is that nobody ever accepts blame. It's never their fault. They never take responsibility.

I was on vacation for the first time in 2 years, and I went to process payroll for our business using the online banking system from our brasil bank. Except it didn't process. And said my limit had been exceeded. Turns out the bank lowered all our limits, without telling us, to something crazy little like R$20K. So I bitched and it was the ONE time the bank actually apologized and said "Our bad. Sorry!". I was stunned. I saved the email.

So anyway, tonight I'm coming back with my friend, his brazilian girlfriend, and a brazilian girl I like. We're in Leblon and grab a cab to head back to copa. The driver clearly understands where we're going but "goes to take the beach". And this at 10. 30pm on a Saturday night. When he should have just gone straight down Ataulfo de Paiva into Ipanema and from there down Nossa Senhora. Except he fucks up even worse when he reaches the beach, and there's no turn-back to let him head towards Copa. So he starts heading to Barra and there's just no turn. I ask him where he intends to turn and he says "up ahead". Yeah right. So he reaches the end of Leblon beach where it starts to go up the hill, and there's a big "No U-Turn" sign. And he realizes he's out of options and swings the U-turn. And we start heading back to Copa. And this whole detour (desvio) has added at least R$5 to the meter, if not more.

So we get to Copa and our destination. The meter says R$22 and he pulls out the little chart. I hand him a R$20 note and say in porto,"that should be enough, right?" and he says, um, no it's R$24 reading of the chart. And I say,"Amigo, what about the discount for the detour? It was at least R$5 on the meter." And he gets all upset and says "I'm working here, give me a break." Fucker. Take fucking responsibility. So look in my wallet and pull out R$2 in coins. Tell him this is all the change I have. And he still keeps on about how its R$24. Motherfucker. Own up to trying to bone us a little with the beach thing, but fucking it up and adding too much to the trip. But he won't budge. And I can't risk a drawn out argument over R$5. So I toss a $5 at him instead of the coins and head out, telling him it's a disgrace and he should be ashamed. Meh.

It's not the money. It's the principal.[/QUOTE]Eric C,

Glad to see you going out with your Brazilian friends and taking out a non pro female and enjoying yourself Eric. It is always good to be around some good locals and going out on normal dates. But sadly unlike you some other mongers can live in Rio for decades and only know were to find cheap apt. Pussy and never know what it is like to go on a normal date with a female without asking how much and how long do I get ? LOL LOL glad to see you don't have to end up being one of those types ha ha. Keep on going out and enjoying yourself Eric life can be good once you get out and about and get away from doing the same old thing and being around certain mongers that are only able to do the same old thing.

Yes these taxi drivers also seem to know how to ruin a nice evening out and want to fuck up your night with their greedy asses trying to run a con-game on gringos. Some of you guys thought I over did it when I had to deal with the same Bullshit back in March and I reported and post about it when I was left the airport going into Copa I made a agreement with a Taxi driver before leaving that I was going to pay him no more then 40 reals to get to my hotel to make a long story short he went around and around driving real slow allowing other cars and buses to get in front of us. Trying to run up the meter.

I told him keep on playing around and see what happens I am only giving you 40 reals like I agreed to. By the time we finally got to the hotel his meter was around 60 reals I jump out and grab my bags and give him 40 reals (the Taxi driver came walking behind me crying I owe him more) I saw the doorman I knew from last time I was there and told him what happen he was talking to this black policeman that was a friend of his I acted a fool on that Taxi driver telling him I wasn't going to give him a dime more then what I told him I was going to give him and to make it worst on the Taxi driver, the police asked him for some paperwork he didn't have and give him a ticket and a "fine" LOL LOL and told him to leave before he get his Taxi towed (we all high five each other and laugh after the Taxi driver left all [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] off) LOL

I hate to think how many rip offs like this is going to happen when the World Cup and the games come to Rio these Taxi drivers will be worst then those clowns that was waiting outside of Club Help back in the days I would always go down to BOB's and catch one of those taxis that would take me back to my hotel at a better price. Now those outlaw taxi drivers either got into another line of work or is still trying to rip off gringos.

Glad to see you stood up for yourself Eric I bet that Brazilian girl you was with like that, it always turn a female on when a man stand up for himself and not be push around and used. And keep on going out on dates like I see you been doing. Even if you DON'T have sex with a non pro right away but when you do have sex with them it is always better because you know she really wants to be with you and she isn't setting her iphone timer before you get in bed with her. LOL have fun..

Kid Cisco

[QUOTE=Kid Cisco;1309077]I just wanted to thank you guys that are on the ground NOW and giving updates and filed reports on Tier 1 Termas like (Slimholedrill and HoleRanger) and any others I forgot to name you guys are taking time out of your trip to give us reports on what is going on so thanks you don't or didn't have to do it .[/QUOTE]It is always the same, when you post a lot no one bothers to write reports because you dominate the board with your opinion rather than anything new. When you stop posting people come out of the woodwork and good info gets added again.

[QUOTE=Eric Cartman;1309281]So one of the things that bugs me, working in Brazil, is that nobody ever accepts blame. It's never their fault. They never take responsibility.[/QUOTE]Do you think it is anywhere else in the world any different? I have to see the first of those high rolling bankers take any responsibility for the global economic crisis they put us all in. No, no, whining and crying and getting even more money into their pockets from the taxpayers this time.

[QUOTE=Eric Cartman;1309281]It's not the money. It's the principal.[/QUOTE]For those bankers it was all about the money. They just have no principles.

If the government ever shut down all termas for good, what do you think would happen to the p4p scene. Forget the scam places like barbs. Do you think someone would open a big club like Help but better. The demand would be so high, I could see some investor opening a place.

[QUOTE=HelpRules;1309399]If the government ever shut down all termas for good, what do you think would happen to the p4p scene. Forget the scam places like barbs. Do you think someone would open a big club like Help but better. The demand would be so high, I could see some investor opening a place.[/QUOTE]You can do it! Use the passion for your idea to get the investors.

[QUOTE=Kid Cisco; 1309320]Yes these taxi drivers also seem to know how to ruin a nice evening out and want to fuck up your night with their greedy asses trying to run a con-game on gringos. Some of you guys thought I over did it when I had to deal with the same Bullshit back in March and I reported and post about it when I was left the airport going into Copa I made a agreement with a Taxi driver before leaving that I was going to pay him no more then 40 reals to get to my hotel to make a long story short he went around and around driving real slow allowing other cars and buses to get in front of us. Trying to run up the meter.

Kid Cisco[/QUOTE]So true. Great insight KC. You give great insight on how to enjoy Rio with options!

Not looking to be on the beach just near the P4P. Any recommends?

stopped by today to check out the inventory. in the back of my mind i was hoping that the glut of talent had spilled over to this spot. three guys in the waiting area including myself. seven girls came out to greet us. i would place most in the 5-7 range. i waited 20 mins just in case there were more in the rooms. after 20 mins, no new faces and nothing really motivated me. four to five were doable but i've been spoiled by monte carlo and must return there again.

after a date with a normal woman (what does that mean?) and a interesting meeting at a restaurant, it's time to revisit mc. the only problem is with so much in one spot, it's hard to sample the other treats and not get previous encounters angry. ahh. who cares she will get over it. maybe i can visit in disguise?

bel prazer. worth a peek. enjoy!

[QUOTE=Gaucho9; 1308741]On the other hand: You'll live a unique experience when all the city goes wild. Really wild. Well, not all of them, a lot of cariocas escape directly to Buzios and Angras.

If there's something that sticks in my mind through all the years is the wild Carnival I experienced in Rio ten years ago. Help was still open. Naked girls dancing on your table. Experiencing Sambodromo until early at dawn. Great parties. Wild. Kissing total strangers on the street. Erotism everywhere. And the music. You got to hear those drums. They are better than a rock concert.

A hint: You don't need to spend a fortune. Plan in advance. Find somewhere to crash. And think that most of the time you'll be on the streets, partying or at the Sambodromo. So you don't need a suite at the Copacabana Palace. Just somewhere to sleep and change. And survive.

I don't do it every year. But I recommend the Rio Carnival at least once in a lifetime.[/QUOTE]Revellion (NYE) is also an amazing time in Rio. Seeing a million people all packed on the beach dressed in white, and even all the cooky characters in Copacabana in the hours beforehand make it an awesome experience.

Where is Aerporto?

[QUOTE=SlimHoleDrill; 1308210]The rumor is true. Aerporto is open again.

12 PM to 12 AM. About 10 girls there at 2:00 PM, they said around 5 or 6 they have about 30. They said some are ex Centaurus as well. I didn't think it was spectacular, but for a nooner, pretty good. A real terma open at noon, not a prive. I expect the late afternoon would be quite nice. I found a little spinner with the unusual combination of large natural tits and smallish tight bunda, pretty face, simpatico. Wow, don't see that too often. 21 yo. YMMV.

Entrada: R50.

40 minutes 250.

Caipirinha R15.

Nice little cabinas with sink.

This would also be a good option to stop off on the way to the airport for a late flight.

BTW, I asked about the rumor that they had flipped to a gay spa, but they denied it. They were closed for about 3 months, but I was not able to understand why.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Trafukin;1310027]Where is Aerporto?[/QUOTE]It is downtown near the old airport. Just google

"aerporto termas Rio de janeiro" and it will come up with a map and address. The magic of the internet.

[QUOTE=HelpRules;1309399]If the government ever shut down all termas for good, what do you think would happen to the p4p scene. Forget the scam places like barbs. Do you think someone would open a big club like Help but better. The demand would be so high, I could see some investor opening a place.[/QUOTE]I doubt that anybody who has that kind of cash would risk it opening a place like that in Rio now considering what's going on with this clean up and everything. If you remember all the rumors before Help was closing, one of them was they were already constructing a new place inside the old Bingo Arpoador. When the rumor got out both the neighborhood and the Government said they would shut it down.

Help wasn't opened as a putaria like it was, in 1984 it opened as a disco for middle to upper class Cariocas, eventually the GDP's infiltrated and the normal patrons left. Help evolved into what it was and maybe that is what will happen to another club over time but it's hard to say which one.

They will probably shut down Balcony soon and then what? I think the problem is that the girls are congregating in one place and that is making a bad scene, it's a target to be cleaned up.

Pre Help days the girls were spread out across all of Copacabana, every restaurant on Ave. Atlantica had girls sitting there so there wasn't just one place. This is less of a target and they can't close every restaurant down. Maybe we'll get back to that.

I have some GDP's on my face book and I see pictures of them all over the place, Lapa, Melt, Bar do Copa, Nuth. Not necessarily working but if the feeling is right and the price is right, why not? I have a friend who is in his early 30's, an upper class Carioca who tells me he gets laid easy in Bar do Copa for free from girls visiting from Minas Gerias and he says for you you could too but you would have to pay. So it's there you just have to sniff it out.

[QUOTE=Sangue Bon;1310365].have to sniff it out.[/QUOTE]BTW, where is "Bar do Copa," can't say as I've ever heard of it?

[QUOTE=Riofan6;1310372]BTW, where is "Bar do Copa," can't say as I've ever heard of it?[/QUOTE]It's a nightclub inside of the Copacabana Palace Hotel. Of the 3 times I've been there, I've been approached,"Are you staying in this hotel?". It was never by anyone worth taking to my room though.

[QUOTE=HoleRanger; 1308749]Arrived here yesterday and MC was high on my list due to recent posts. I got there at 5:45pm and decided not to pull the trigger early and look at the inventory. Including myself. 6 other guys in the place. There were 22 girls there, I counted and all were in the main area. Between 7-8 p. M, I counted the arrival of 15 new faces and I'am sure a few were in the rooms that I missed. So. At least 40+ women there and over 75% were in the 7+ range. Yummy.[/QUOTE]I went to MC tonight. I tried to use a printed coupon from an old email for the free cabine Tuesday promotion. They used to always accept them (old printouts) before, but today they said "we don't accept the Tuesday promotions anymore because we took our website down". Sheeeeeet!

I do have to concur about the talent though. Wow. I got there at 7 pm and there were 45 girls or so by 8 pm. I would say there were 5 or 6 girls in the 9 range. This one girl that I talked to tonight used to work at Centaurus and said about 20 girls from there now work at MC. Of course, she thinks Centaurus will reopen next week. Ha. I didn't ask her reasoning. Some other girl told me the same thing 5 weeks ago, so it must be their wishful thinking or a standard answer. I had a session from an ex-Centaurus girl named Luiza. She was nothing special. I got out of there with R$360 damage + drinks.

[QUOTE=Riofan6;1310372]BTW, where is "Bar do Copa," can't say as I've ever heard of it?[/QUOTE]Copacabana Palace Hotel.

[QUOTE=Sangue Bon; 1310365]I doubt that anybody who has that kind of cash would risk it opening a place like that in Rio now considering what's going on with this clean up and everything. If you remember all the rumors before Help was closing, one of them was they were already constructing a new place inside the old Bingo Arpoador. When the rumor got out both the neighborhood and the Government said they would shut it down.

Help wasn't opened as a putaria like it was, in 1984 it opened as a disco for middle to upper class Cariocas, eventually the GDP's infiltrated and the normal patrons left. Help evolved into what it was and maybe that is what will happen to another club over time but it's hard to say which one.

They will probably shut down Balcony soon and then what? I think the problem is that the girls are congregating in one place and that is making a bad scene, it's a target to be cleaned up.

Pre Help days the girls were spread out across all of Copacabana, every restaurant on Ave. Atlantica had girls sitting there so there wasn't just one place. This is less of a target and they can't close every restaurant down. Maybe we'll get back to that.

I have some GDP's on my face book and I see pictures of them all over the place, Lapa, Melt, Bar do Copa, Nuth. Not necessarily working but if the feeling is right and the price is right, why not? I have a friend who is in his early 30's, an upper class Carioca who tells me he gets laid easy in Bar do Copa for free from girls visiting from Minas Gerias and he says for you you could too but you would have to pay. So it's there you just have to sniff it out.[/QUOTE]Please explain a few things. If the government closed Help because of all the trash hanging around and lowered property value, why are they closing the termas. You can't even tell whats going on at Cent, MC. 4x4 from the outside. They don't have 20 escorts hanging outside termas like they did help. If anything there should be more terms- not less.

Also, I understand there is a Help type place in Sao Paulo that is still open. Why haven't they closed them down. Why not barbs and those scam joints. Do you see a eventual closing of all these types of places in 5 years, and all we will have left are escort agencies and high end clubs where the girls work on the DL.