American Politics

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2718993]Don't get too excited, kiddies. I remember when Teflon Ronnie's poll rating hit 35% during his first term and there was serious talk of replacing him as the Repub candidate for 1984.

Biden could be 100 years old in 2024 with 99% of Dem voters preferring someone younger with more energy to shout and scowl about problems Repubs created and no POTUS can solve with a magic wand (outlawing Sex-For-Pleasure, Machine Gun Love, High Gas Prices / Inflation Due To Trump's Pandemic Decisions Destroying Global Supply-Chains, etc) and they still would not be dumb enough to vote for numskulls like Trump, DeSantis or any other Repub in meaningful numbers.

Again, not that it will matter who or what the vast majority of the American electorate votes for once the anti American Democracy Repubs install their election-denying QAnon loons in state and local positions to throw out any ballots and not count votes they don't like.

But that is what Repub and Bothsider voters wished for and got when they saddled the country with 50 Repubs and two DINOs in the Senate.[/QUOTE]First, thank you for finally acknowledging that Biden is a disaster junk POTUS. Better late than never, like rest of the Democrats. This is good progress.

Now, also thank you for acknowledging that there are dumb Democrats like you, who would still vote for this or another junk disaster Democrat candidate than voting for a better (may not be the best, but better) Republican candidate for the next POTUS. These are who I call "stupid voters" who are so delusional with their party affiliation that they forget to support candidates who are better for their own good. They would rather pay double for everything with inflation, have a terrible economy, have wars all over the world but still not support a better candidate just because that candidate is Republican. These stupid voters now acknowledged that country is in the wrong path, but still won't change their voting pattern. This is actually very sad that these people never learn, bringing down the country and world with their stupidity.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2718444]
With regards to immigration, I wholeheartedly want as many legal immigrants as possible. When it comes to economic strength of a nation's economy, it is beneficial to admit people age 18 to 65 as they are a net benefit to a society versus a cost.
Do we want people who are going to reject our culture and create conflict or assimilate within to it?
[/QUOTE]I understand what most people's first thought are "are they going to assimilate, are they going to contribiute? But for me, that is not the point at all. It is simply a question of human rights. BUt let's set that aside.

Can I ask, what part of US culture do you want immigrants to respect and partake in? What great aspects of culture does the USA exhibit? I see a very conservative society, very racist, highly religious, exceptionalist, self-centered, ignorant, propagandised, dangerous gun / murder-infested society, now stripping away its own people's basic rights (whilst ignoring the rights of people from other countries), not caring about welfare and health of its own people, not providing basic needs. It's an incredibly corrupt country. Is this what you want immigrants to assimilate to?

I hear USAns complain that only "lowlife' try to immigrate. Well, for me, that's hardly surprising. I don't know anyone that wants to go live in the USA. I know plenty that want to move to Europe, Asia, South America, even Aus / Canada / NZ. And plenty of USAns that can't wait to leave. But no intelligent person would want to move to the USA. Why should they? Only a few Hollywood stars and media starlets. The only people that want to enter the USA and the desperate eople that the USA has destroyed the lives of in their own countries.

Would love to hear what you have to say.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2718999]I assume you know that at least twice so far recently you have used the word "one" in place of the word "won" you could only mean, right?

Or maybe you don't know it.

And that can not be blamed on spell-check or an ordinary typo like leaving an "a" for "an".

Just sayin'.[/QUOTE]I use the number 1 in quotations as a double entendre (use google to look for definition).

So did you write the code for this autocorrect / autowrong? Don't tell me you know everything it does and doesn't do, I want you to type see'est la vie.

[URL]https://frenchtogether.com/cest-la-vie/[/URL]

That inbred made in China defective cracker is regularly trying to correct others on a whooor board LOL.

Thats like a tavern that only allows proper grammar and no profanity LOL pretty dum / stoopid if you ask me.

The lowest low life mongers trying to be pretentious on a whooor board lmao.

Thou lady projects too much me thinks.

[QUOTE=ChrisP;2719045]Considering you don't know who Ted Kennedy
.[/QUOTE]I don't see what that has to do with the price of eggs.

[QUOTE=ChrisP;2719045]But guess what. They all keep on keeping on. They have enough to eat, roofs over their heads, families. Just leave them be to live their lives in their own societies.[/QUOTE]That would be great, bcos the majority of them only want that. So let's leave them be then. Let's dismantle all the 750 USA militay basis in 80 countries around the world whose primary goal is to keep down the local populcae so that they can be exploited. Let them live their lives in Iraq, Iran, Syria, Afghanistan, Cuba, Venezuela, Bolivia, Russia, China, Nicuragua. Finally, we agree on a policy.

[QUOTE=Gino02;2719171]First, thank you for finally acknowledging that Biden is a disaster junk POTUS. Better late than never, like rest of the Democrats. This is good progress.

Now, also thank you for acknowledging that there are dumb Democrats like you, who would still vote for this or another junk disaster Democrat candidate than voting for a better (may not be the best, but better) Republican candidate for the next POTUS. These are who I call "stupid voters" who are so delusional with their party affiliation that they forget to support candidates who are better for their own good. They would rather pay double for everything with inflation, have a terrible economy, have wars all over the world but still not support a better candidate just because that candidate is Republican. These stupid voters now acknowledged that country is in the wrong path, but still won't change their voting pattern. This is actually very sad that these people never learn, bringing down the country and world with their stupidity.[/QUOTE]Stop lying. It only makes you look like a liar.

I "acknowledged" exactly none of those things you lied about.

BTW, the poll Gino got all hot, wet and excited about included an "If the election were held today" question.

Biden beat Trump.

Oh, and Harris beat DeSantis. LOL.

Each of those outcomes have turned up in a few polls lately. Also with Biden beating DeSantis.

So, as much as the polls show Americans disapproving of Biden for not solving every horrific problem produced by Trump and his Repubs yet, it is also still quite common for them to "acknowledge" that they disapprove of the Repub leaders and standard bearers even more.

[QUOTE=JustTK;2719177]I understand what most people's first thought are "are they going to assimilate, are they going to contribiute?

Can I ask, what part of US culture do you want immigrants to respect and partake in? What great aspects of culture does the USA exhibit? I see a very conservative society, very racist, highly religious, exceptionalist, self-centered, ignorant, propagandised, dangerous gun / murder-infested society, now stripping away its own people's basic rights (whilst ignoring the rights of people from other countries), not caring about welfare and health of its own people, not providing basic needs. It's an incredibly corrupt country. Is this what you want immigrants to assimilate to?[/QUOTE]You have been watching the news too much. LOL. At its best the USA is a meritocracy, and you are judged based on performance not the color of your skin, religious views ETC. My father was Russian but emigrated to Iran at an early age. He saw the Russians (very poor and crude), the British (uptight snobs), and Americans (friendly and laid back) while helping the allies in WW2. The one act that made my father want to come to the USA was some lower ranked officer put his feet up on his commander's desk. What that shows you is that even with the military and their supposed chain of command, Americans think of themselves as equals. That is based on our forefathers view that when a state enters the Union, it does not come in as inferior but an equal. Time and again, you see the brilliance of our forefathers. Thing is they tried so many forms of government and saw which ones worked and which ones did not.

The USA is really a melting pot. My high school, and this was back in the 1980's, was a pressure cooker. The expectations were huge, and you hung with your friends to help you. In my circle of friends was a Korean, a black, several Jewish guys, one Arab, one guy from Iran, and several other white guys. We helped each other out, and when one of us succeeded, we felt like we succeeded. We would laugh about our differences and give each us other shit about it. The Jewish guys would ask me if I was going to take them hostage and I told them to have fun going to Hebrew school learning to hang people on crosses. You can do that when you feel like you are equals.

Later on, the Korean told me that there was some racism that he had to deal with when he was younger. The black guy later told me he was giving being shit by the black community for hanging around mostly white people and talking white. Romance wise, he had to deal with white women who often wanted him as a novelty rather than a person. But the idea that white people had no issues was bullshit. The white Jewish guys had stress put on them from their parents and community that was unreal. In my case, my father filled that role. I had a hard time putting my finger on what I went through until I saw Hasan Minaj's hilarious comedy special, Homecoming King. He talked about his father and conditional love. The other insight was the Greek father from My Big Fat Greek Wedding. That man too was so my dad. Whenever I dated someone my father did not like, he would act hurt and once even said, "Why are you going out with this woman? What did I do to you?" he had this incredible ability to let women know he did not like them without saying a word. At the time, I just thought that was normal behavior from a parent. Point is we all had our demons.

When you work in the USA, you have clients of all races and nationalities so if you are a racist you are not going to do well. But you are not going to do well if you only live in your own corner of the world. At work, there were two guys from Pakistan. One helped everyone he could, smiled all the time, had a joke at the ready for any occasion. He was beloved and advanced up the ladder. If he opened his own business, I am sure he would be flooded with customers. Nobody cared he was from Pakistan or a Muslim.

The other guy was religious, shy, and married. He would only hang out with his wife and did not speak much. In the end, he was an okay guy but it took years for people to be comfortable with him, and his aloofness caused anxiety. There was a feeling that a few people expressed that this guy might come in pissed off one day with a bomb strapped to his back and blow up everyone at work. Is that racist? Sure, but no one thought that about the other guy.

Thing is when you put the people into a high performance climate you see who sinks and swims, and I saw people come in from all over the world. In general, American men and yes mostly white ones were the best performers but there were stars from India, Pakistan, England, and Germany. I actually preferred foreign women to American ones. Many American women were amazing but most of the attractive ones would worm their way out of work. It was rare though for anyone coming to the USA who wanted to leave though.

If you live in a good neighborhood in the USA, there is not much crime. The planes run on time. The roads are good. With Amazon, almost any product in the world can literally be at your door step in 2 days. Point is the standard of living is through the roof. An Argentine told me the hardest thing Americans had to get used to when moving to Argentina was when the plumber said he would be there next week, it could be next month. In the USA, in general, if someone says they will be at your house on Tuesday, they will be there on Tuesday.

My dad bought some land way back when. A home was on the land and he was going to bull doze it. A church asked my father not to destroy the home. The church was sponsoring immigrants from Vietnam during and after the war and wanted to put them up in that home. I cannot tell you how many families I saw use that home as a place to settle before moving out and making it on their own. Today that relatively small city has a very active and prosperous Vietnamese community, and the church has done well too. My father thought he had a duty to help immigrants because so many people had helped him. And just like my father helped the Vietnamese immigrants, I am sure those immigrants are helping new ones. That is the American way, a way that is not talked about enough.

With racism, my black friend name got pretty much the same grades and test scores as I did. Can you imagine his reaction when he was told the tests were racist? He knew the people saying that did not do the work like he did.

I remember one Asian not liking a black kid at camp when I was 13. The black kid told the Asian that he was racist. The Asian guy lectured the black kid that he had to deal with racist shit too, and you see this stuff all the time. I finally stepped in and said, "Look, I think the problem is more you than your race so stop it."

I often saw racism used like this, as an excuse. There is no question that my black and Asian friends had to deal with racist issues I did not have to but they did not let them get in their way of succeeding. I never saw race slow down a determined person in the USA. Never.

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2719188]I use the number 1 in quotations as a double entendre (use google to look for definition).

So did you write the code for this autocorrect / autowrong? Don't tell me you know everything it does and doesn't do, I want you to type see'est la vie.

[URL]https://frenchtogether.com/cest-la-vie/[/URL]

That inbred made in China defective cracker is regularly trying to correct others on a whooor board LOL.

Thats like a tavern that only allows proper grammar and no profanity LOL pretty dum / stoopid if you ask me.

The lowest low life mongers trying to be pretentious on a whooor board lmao.

Thou lady projects too much me thinks.[/QUOTE]So you're saying that you wrote the number "1" instead of the word "one" and that the auto-correct function here changed it to "one" and eliminated the quotation marks?

I wonder if the same thing happens when I do it. Hmm. Apparently not in the "Preview Report" mode.

[QUOTE=JustTK;2719177]I understand what most people's first thought are "are they going to assimilate, are they going to contribiute? But for me, that is not the point at all. It is simply a question of human rights. BUt let's set that aside.

Can I ask, what part of US culture do you want immigrants to respect and partake in? What great aspects of culture does the USA exhibit? I see a very conservative society, very racist, highly religious, exceptionalist, self-centered, ignorant, propagandised, dangerous gun / murder-infested society, now stripping away its own people's basic rights (whilst ignoring the rights of people from other countries), not caring about welfare and health of its own people, not providing basic needs. It's an incredibly corrupt country. Is this what you want immigrants to assimilate to?

I hear USAns complain that only "lowlife' try to immigrate. Well, for me, that's hardly surprising. I don't know anyone that wants to go live in the USA. I know plenty that want to move to Europe, Asia, South America, even Aus / Canada / NZ. And plenty of USAns that can't wait to leave. But no intelligent person would want to move to the USA. Why should they? Only a few Hollywood stars and media starlets. The only people that want to enter the USA and the desperate eople that the USA has destroyed the lives of in their own countries.

Would love to hear what you have to say.[/QUOTE]Every mass immigration to the USA has resulted in enclaves of like ethnic groups in large cities. In every large city there was a "little Italy" or a "Chinatown" or a "Koreatown", etc. That's where folks of similar heritage could live and speak a familiar language while trying to "make it" in an unfamiliar country. But many of their offspring, especially the ones born in the USA, fully assimilated. They spoke English as a first language although their parents might still speak in their native tongue at home.

While you paint a picture of the USA, I think your picture is a bit skewed. But there are definitely two Americas.

One is as you describe: "a very conservative society, very racist, highly religious, exceptionalist, self-centered, ignorant, propagandised, dangerous gun / murder-infested society, now stripping away its own people's basic rights (whilst ignoring the rights of people from other countries), not caring about welfare and health of its own people, not providing basic needs. " Those folks are the ones who afraid of immigration. They are the ones who attempt to make a distinction between "legacy Americans" and "immigrants". Unfortunately, they are by-and-large too ignorant to realize that if they aren't "native Americans", that they, too, are immigrants. They are the ones who are afraid that the America they know is becoming "browner". And they don't like it.

The other America is quite different. They are liberal, at least in terms thinking that what is good for every citizen is good for America. Many are socially liberal but fiscally conservative. They may be religious but religion doesn't color their whole world. They are mostly college-educated. They may or may not be "anti-gun" but certainly believe that America doesn't need 120 guns per every 100 people.

The assimilationists, though, only think of assimilation as something that white people do. Because if an immigrant is of European origin, the first generation who speaks perfectly unaccented English can certainly pass for one of their so-called "legacy Americans". But an immigrant of color, whether they're Asian, African or Latino can't (according to them) ever assimilate because they don't and can't ever pass for a "legacy American". That's why there are so many "hate crimes" happening that didn't happen before the rise of the Mango Mussolini.

But let's not mistake that the folks who cross the southern border illegally are doing so because the USA is their last hope for a decent life. They may prefer to go elsewhere but the USA is their least-expensive option. Unfortunately, the USA is not, and never will be, able to reform the immigration system or the asylum system properly. The RethugliKKKans won't do it because they're afraid of upsetting their "USA for the white man" base and Democrats won't do it because they will never have a sufficient filibuster-proof majority in the Senate.

[QUOTE=Gino02;2719171]First, thank you for finally acknowledging that Biden is a disaster junk POTUS. [/QUOTE]I didn't see him write that.

Was this one of your primary delusions?

Or just one of the secondary ones?

[QUOTE=Gino02;2719171]First, thank you for finally acknowledging that Biden is a disaster junk POTUS.[/QUOTE]Now now, stop this silliness. The true Disaster Junk POTUS has already been certified. He's known by many names but I personally like Don the Con more than others, although Mango Mussolini comes close second.

And everyone knows there can only be one. Granted, there are a few strong DJP contenders, like Dubya or Nixon or even James Buchanan for all of you, history lovers, but no one comes close enough.

[QUOTE=Gino02;2719171]First, thank you for finally acknowledging that Biden is a disaster junk POTUS. Better late than never, like rest of the Democrats. This is good progress.

Now, also thank you for acknowledging that there are dumb Democrats like you, who would still vote for this or another junk disaster Democrat candidate than voting for a better (may not be the best, but better) Republican candidate for the next POTUS. These are who I call "stupid voters" who are so delusional with their party affiliation that they forget to support candidates who are better for their own good. They would rather pay double for everything with inflation, have a terrible economy, have wars all over the world but still not support a better candidate just because that candidate is Republican. These stupid voters now acknowledged that country is in the wrong path, but still won't change their voting pattern. This is actually very sad that these people never learn, bringing down the country and world with their stupidity.[/QUOTE]You really do crack me up. He actually said nothing of the kind but when you can't read for comprehension, you just make stuff up as you go along.

The real idiots are the poor-and-middle-class RethugliKKKan voters who keep voting red because the RethugliKKKan candidates lie to them and the RethugliKKKan voters are simply too stupid to know better. Lyndon Johnson said it best, though, when he said something like "as long as you can make the lowest-and most-ignorant white voter feel like he's better than the best black voter, you have his vote forever. " And, yes, I know that LBJ was a Democrat. But, like most RethugliKKKans, he was also a racist. I wouldn't be surprised if he was also a misogynist, a xenophobe and a homophobe, just like virtually every RethugliKKKan.

And that's what you RethugliKKKans do best. You litany of BS is legendary. "Trickle down economics", "Single-payer healthcare is a scam", "Welfare queens". "Everything Democrats do is Socialism". It doesn't really matter because the list goes on and on. Not that Democrats are much better but at least they try to do the right thing. You guys, on the other hand, are really great at playing the victim and not much else. Well, OK, you are really good at playing the racist, too. And the xenophobe. And the homophobe. And the misogynist.

Well, I take back what I said. RethugliKKKans are good at a few things. Just not actually governing 'cause that takes real work.

[QUOTE=JustTK;2719177]I understand what most people's first thought are "are they going to assimilate, are they going to contribiute? But for me, that is not the point at all. It is simply a question of human rights. BUt let's set that aside.

Can I ask, what part of US culture do you want immigrants to respect and partake in? What great aspects of culture does the USA exhibit? I see a very conservative society, very racist, highly religious, exceptionalist, self-centered, ignorant, propagandised, dangerous gun / murder-infested society, now stripping away its own people's basic rights (whilst ignoring the rights of people from other countries), not caring about welfare and health of its own people, not providing basic needs. It's an incredibly corrupt country. Is this what you want immigrants to assimilate to?

I hear USAns complain that only "lowlife' try to immigrate. Well, for me, that's hardly surprising. I don't know anyone that wants to go live in the USA. I know plenty that want to move to Europe, Asia, South America, even Aus / Canada / NZ. And plenty of USAns that can't wait to leave. But no intelligent person would want to move to the USA. Why should they? Only a few Hollywood stars and media starlets. The only people that want to enter the USA and the desperate eople that the USA has destroyed the lives of in their own countries..[/QUOTE]Let me guess you're one of those to figure out how to get here LMAO.

Very racist? Really LOL I'm pretty sure you're projecting again.

Those that go around calling a whole country of 330 m people very racist sounds like someone with a visceral hatred of white people, I'm just sayin.

Why do hate whitey so much JK?

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2719259]My father was Russian but emigrated to Iran at an early age. ... There is no question that my black and Asian friends had to deal with racist issues I did not have to but they did not let them get in their way of succeeding. I never saw race slow down a determined person in the USA. Never.[/QUOTE]I enjoy your stories Elvis, I really do. I see you value very highly your own experiences and those of valued folk around you. I don't deny you those at all. I just don't believe your own experiences represent the masses. There is overwhelming evidence to show that your experiences are not the most common experiences in USA. And you also talk of your youth and history. Whch I think speaks of a USA that no longer exists. USAns, without fail, talk of meritocracy. You will succeed if you are willing to do the hard yards. I find it amazing how you have been brainwashed by that. The reality is the opposite. Pause to think and you will see it is a logical impossibilty. No matter how hard you try, there will always be more failures than successes.

I wonder if stats exist as to the source and detail of current immigrants to USA. How many there are, what their country of origin is, their level of education. I admit that I don't have the stats. My guess is that there has been a huge drop in immigrtnion of educated folk from developed countries. The interner has done one thing. Made it easier for everyone to access the truth. No one respects the USA any more.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2719289]Now now, stop this silliness. The true Disaster Junk POTUS has already been certified. He's known by many names but I personally like Don the Con more than others, although Mango Mussolini comes close second.

And everyone knows there can only be one. Granted, there are a few strong DJP contenders, like Dubya or Nixon or even James Buchanan for all of you, history lovers, but no one comes close enough.[/QUOTE]The latest January 6 Violent Trump Insurrection Investigation was funny and sad. Mostly sad.

Whether it was Trump's somewhat "normal" aids he hand-picked to help him overturn a free and fair election and overthrow American Democracy so he could illegally continue to produce the worst across-the-board results of any so-called potus in history who he had to fire and replace with obvious loony and falling down drunk ones or their replacements, they all seem to agree Trump had to be dealt with like the fucking moron with the mental capacity of a 5 year old he clearly is.

Yet, being trusted classic Repubs all, indulge him and humor him they did. Naturally, all to the great detriment of America and the American people, including if not moreso to the even more fucking moronic mental midgets who ever for one second entertained the notion of supporting and voting for him or any other Repub.

[QUOTE=PVMonger;2719265]
While you paint a picture of the USA, I think your picture is a bit skewed. But there are definitely two Americas....
But let's not mistake that the folks who cross the southern border illegally are doing so because the USA is their last hope for a decent life. .[/QUOTE]I liked your response. I accept that I have met enough USA folk to appreciate that there are plenty of decent people in the USA. BUt the voting evidence shows that my interpretation represents a reality that is very prevalent in the USA. There is a very ugly aspect that is prominent in USA "culture". It's a vulgarity. I don't see much that immigrants should want to aspire to. As lomg as folk don't repress minorities and the rights of women, I don't think we need to worry about assimiliation. Bcos, just maybe, they will actually improve the culture, not detract from it.

[QUOTE=JustTK;2719369]And you also talk of your youth and history. Whch I think speaks of a USA that no longer exists. USAns, without fail, talk of meritocracy. You will succeed if you are willing to do the hard yards. I find it amazing how you have been brainwashed by that. The reality is the opposite. Pause to think and you will see it is a logical impossibilty. No matter how hard you try, there will always be more failures than successes.[/QUOTE]Sorry, JustTK, that is not just true, and I see it every day. Most of the billionaires in our country are self made. College is more expensive now so if you get the college degree and get way into debt, it makes getting to the American dream harder. Now more women are going to college then men, but it is not a bad thing. The men want to make money, and they have figured out that going to tech schools and apprenticeships often is the way to go. Right now, the craftsman are in crazy demand. I just paid an electrician $125 an hour, and I have an ex-employee working on movie sets in Georgia making $150,000 a year, but you do not hear about that. The sad part is many who went to college are saddled with debt and would have been better off pursing a craft.

There are two things that have gotten worse though. The first is personal freedom and what I mean by that is when I was kid, I would play in the streets all night. These days if your kid is out after dark, you can expect someone to call Child Protective Services. When people were talking about freedom and Ukraine, I recalled going to Singapore and it reminded me of when I was a kid. Kids were out playing, happy, smiling, and there was no fear on the adults faces. That type of freedom is not reflected in the freedom scores the dumb Dems are pulling out with Ukraine and the war there. The irony is now I think it is very safe in the USA, maybe safer than ever, for kids to play late at night. It is just people are too paranoid to lighten up.

The second is the government has gotten too big and they cannot be reigned in. This is why I will likely leave this country. Let me give you one example: the DEA. Since the DEA was founded, there are more drugs on the street, and they are cheaper and more potent than they ever have been. So what does the DEA do? It finds a new bad guy, prescription pain drugs and doctors. What people do not know is the DEA sets a quota on the number of pills that can be sold per year. So they could have with the stroke of a pen reduced the number of pills by 2/3 in this country, which is what happened anyway, but if they did that, everyone who was on these pills and could not get them would have blamed the DEA. Instead, they do this routine where they beat the shit out of patients, doctors, pharmacies, and manufacturers and cash in by issuing fines and making seizures.

Maybe you could justify this if the number of deaths went down, but instead they skyrocketed and are now over a 100,000 people a year are dying of overdoses and once more, the DEA succeeded in getting harder and harder drugs on the street with their actions. Despite this horrible record, a record that would have shut down any business in the private sector, I guarantee you there will be a DEA with a larger budget in 20 years. Any attempt to shut them down will be met with calls that you like drugs and you want people dying of overdoses.

Government spending is now 40% of our GDP and in reality it is probably higher still, and this is what has changed. Every day, I see people are more and more interested in pleasing the government than being productive, and that is probably why I will leave this country.

Inflation Hits Four-Decade High of 9. 1%. Real GDP declined in the first quarter of 2022, and it looks like it will drop in the second quarter as well. Way to go Joe. But no worries. Mr. Clueless is on his way to Saudi Arabia to suck some cock. I am sure that will work.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2719387]Sorry, JustTK, that is not just true, and I see it every day. Most of the billionaires in our country are self made. Every day, I see people are more and more interested in pleasing the government than being productive, and that is probably why I will leave this country.[/QUOTE]Elvis, your refutal of my comment by mention of billionaires kind of proves my point. There are 614 billionaires in USA, So 614 people have arrived at the end of the rainbow. That's a miniscule number. Whereas, the other 329,499,386 are still being fed that BS propaganda story that if you work hard you can achieve success.

Currently, the top 1% hold 32% of the wealth, whereas the bottom 50% hold just 2. 6%. That statistic alone is truly sickening and demonstrates all you need to know – the bottom 50% are being fed a lie! It wasn't always like that. The top 10% of wealth-owners, used to own 45–50% in 1913, but that fell to 30–35% in 1948. This shows the staggering funneling of money up the ladder in the USA in the last few decades.

Compare those 614 billionaires with the 37 million (11%) below the official poverty line. And this official rate has been special selected to paint a rosy picture, remember. 125 million live paycheck to paycheck. You can't just wash away these 125 million people. These are the victims of capitalism. I put it to you again, that the failures FAR< FAR< FAR outstrip the winners in the USA. It's the same in nearly every country, but it's more sickeningly exaggerated in the USA bcos it is the most corrupt.

The USA is just a big sweatshop for the rich 1%. That's why no one wants to move there, apart from the desperate.

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2719520]Inflation Hits Four-Decade High of 9. 1%. Real GDP declined in the first quarter of 2022, and it looks like it will drop in the second quarter as well. Way to go Joe. But no worries. Mr. Clueless is on his way to Saudi Arabia to suck some cock. I am sure that will work.[/QUOTE]Yeah, we wonder whose cock clueless Reagan was sucking when inflation was higher, the unemployment rate was skyrocketing and his not his predecessor's economic policies were dragging us into a truly Great Repub-Reagan Recession that was then worse than any economic downturn since The Great Repub Depression of the late 1920's / early 1930's.

We know he sucked Iranian cock with gusto during his second term. But it might have been Iranian cock during his first term too as thanks for that "October Surprise" of delaying the release of the last of the hostages until just minutes after his 1981 inaugural speech.

Jan 6th, testimonies confirms, treasonous and seditious Agent Orange, Republican/GOP cartoon president is...yep, is still the worst USA president in history...EVER!!!!

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2719313]Let me guess you're one of those to figure out how to get here LMAO.

Very racist? Really LOL I'm pretty sure you're projecting again.

Those that go around calling a whole country of 330 m people very racist sounds like someone with a visceral hatred of white people, I'm just sayin.

Why do hate whitey so much JK?[/QUOTE]Of course "racism", according to the wacko left, only works one way. There are all kind of black organizations, newspapers, TV channels, community groups etc in the US, which are peopled by and exist solely to support and advance black people. Same for Jewish organizations, Indian organizations, Chinese organizations, etc. These are all spoken of approvingly by leftists and their fake news media. Many of them even get welfare gibsmedats (mostly paid for by white taxpayers).

But if a group of white people get together, even by accident, the reaction from the same people is "REEEEEEEEE!

[QUOTE=Spidy;2719599]Jan 6th, testimonies confirms, treasonous and seditious Agent Orange, Republican/GOP cartoon president is...yep, is still the worst USA president in history...EVER!!!![/QUOTE]Biden's approval rating is 29% with the fake news media promoting him and covering for his corruption (see the silence on the latest round of Hunter leaks). Amazing to think how low it would be if the media were even-handed, never mind entirely negative as with Trump.

The American people don't buy your bullshit. Be prepared.

[QUOTE=JustTK;2719581]Elvis, your refutal of my comment by mention of billionaires kind of proves my point. There are 614 billionaires in USA, So 614 people have arrived at the end of the rainbow. That's a miniscule number. Whereas, the other 329,499,386 are still being fed that BS propaganda story that if you work hard you can achieve success.

Currently, the top 1% hold 32% of the wealth, whereas the bottom 50% hold just 2. 6%. That statistic alone is truly sickening and demonstrates all you need to know the bottom 50% are being fed a lie! It wasn't always like that. The top 10% of wealth-owners, used to own 4550% in 1913, but that fell to 3035% in 1948. This shows the staggering funneling of money up the ladder in the USA in the last few decades.

Compare those 614 billionaires with the 37 million (11%) below the official poverty line. And this official rate has been special selected to paint a rosy picture, remember. 125 million live paycheck to paycheck. You can't just wash away these 125 million people. These are the victims of capitalism. I put it to you again, that the failures FAR< FAR< FAR outstrip the winners in the USA. It's the same in nearly every country, but it's more sickeningly exaggerated in the USA bcos it is the most corrupt.

The USA is just a big sweatshop for the rich 1%. That's why no one wants to move there, apart from the desperate.[/QUOTE] Average living standards in the US are among the highest in the world.

We already had your commie bullshit argument 50 years ago. The US beat the USSR because your socialist shit doesn't work, no matter how good you and your "peer-reviewed" Marxist 'professors' try and make it sound.

The irony is that America is failing now because it is becoming socialist and wacko left, with endless debt, gibsmedats, useless low IQ welfare immigrants, and useless green bullshit that costs trillions and cripples the economy. Meanwhile China doesn't have immigration, doesn't have gibsmedats and didn't fall for the green bullshit, and they are soaring ahead and taking over the world.

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2719520]Inflation Hits Four-Decade High of 9. 1%. Real GDP declined in the first quarter of 2022, and it looks like it will drop in the second quarter as well. Way to go Joe. But no worries. Mr. Clueless is on his way to Saudi Arabia to suck some cock. I am sure that will work.[/QUOTE]LOL. The same Saudis that he promised to make a "pariah state" a couple of years back. Of course the only reason we need their oil is because the wacko left green fruitloops have banned us from drilling our own oil and gas. What a clownshow.

[QUOTE=JustTK;2719581]Elvis, your refutal of my comment by mention of billionaires kind of proves my point. There are 614 billionaires in USA, So 614 people have arrived at the end of the rainbow. That's a miniscule number. Whereas, the other 329,499,386 are still being fed that BS propaganda story that if you work hard you can achieve success.

Currently, the top 1% hold 32% of the wealth, whereas the bottom 50% hold just 2. 6%. That statistic alone is truly sickening and demonstrates all you need to know the bottom 50% are being fed a lie! It wasn't always like that. The top 10% of wealth-owners, used to own 4550% in 1913, but that fell to 3035% in 1948. This shows the staggering funneling of money up the ladder in the USA in the last few decades.

Compare those 614 billionaires with the 37 million (11%) below the official poverty line. And this official rate has been special selected to paint a rosy picture, remember. 125 million live paycheck to paycheck. You can't just wash away these 125 million people. These are the victims of capitalism. I put it to you again, that the failures FAR< FAR< FAR outstrip the winners in the USA. It's the same in nearly every country, but it's more sickeningly exaggerated in the USA bcos it is the most corrupt.

The USA is just a big sweatshop for the rich 1%. That's why no one wants to move there, apart from the desperate.[/QUOTE]Actually, you are correct in some assertions and wrong in others.

Actually, the folks who believe in "meritocracy" don't believe a word of what you say. You have called it "meritocracy" in the past while I call it the fallacious "pull yourself up by your own bootstraps" trope. Believe it or not, it is physically impossible for someone to pull themselves up by their own bootstraps, but I digress. What the pull yourself up by your own bootstraps crowd fails to realize is that they [B]assume[/B] that everybody starts off equally. The reality is far different, however. To that end, I submit the following video. I'll be the first to admit that I hate watching videos, but this one is only four minutes long and is worth the time to view it. [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4K5fbQ1-zps[/URL] And that's the fallacy of the "but everybody starts off equally" crowd. Some folks start off more equally than others. But the worst part is that they refuse to make things better for those who don't have the same advantages. Don't attend a good school? Just move! Don't have a good job? Get a better one! Don't have healthcare? Get a job that provides it! Hungry at home? Get a job! Already have a job? Get another one! Already work two? Get another one or go back to school!

Because what would it take to make things better for those who start off behind? More social spending. But the pull yourself up by your own bootstraps crowd is, by and large, also the same crowd that is against any social increase in social spending because an increase in social spending would mean an increase in taxes. But what is worse it that many of the pull yourself up by your own bootstraps crowd vote against the very policies that would give them some relief. A case in point is the "trickle down economics" hogwash. Every reputable economist on the planet knows that "trickle down economics" or whatever the current buzzword is, is a complete crock of shit. But meritocracy crowd votes for it every freaking time. They are simply too stupid to realize that it has never worked. Why doesn't it work? Because rich people didn't get rich by spending money, they got rich by saving money!

What you didn't post, though, was the increase in the gap between CEO pay and worker pay. "The Economic Policy Institute (EPI) estimates that CEO compensation has grown 1,322% since 1978, while typical worker compensation has risen just 18%. In 2020, CEOs of the top 350 firms in the USA Made $24.2 million, on average — 351 times more than a typical worker. " [URL]https://www.cnbc.com/2021/09/15/in-2020-top-ceos-earned-351-times-more-than-the-typical-worker.html[/URL] What will the pull yourself up by your own bootstraps crowd say? FAKE NEWS!

In a previous post, you said that you believed that fewer and fewer current immigrants have college degrees. Figure 3 in the following article would seem to dispute that contention. [URL]https://www.migrationpolicy.org/article/frequently-requested-statistics-immigrants-and-immigration-united-states[/URL] Please bear in mind that the article talks about "immigrants" and the pull yourself up by your own bootstraps crowd will try to obfuscate that by bringing the term "illegal immigration" into the discussion.

But saying the nobody wants to immigrate to the US unless they are desperate is a bit disingenuous.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2719371]The latest January 6 Violent Trump Insurrection Investigation was funny and sad. Mostly sad.

Whether it was Trump's somewhat "normal" aids he hand-picked to help him overturn a free and fair election and overthrow American Democracy so he could illegally continue to produce the worst across-the-board results of any so-called potus in history who he had to fire and replace with obvious loony and falling down drunk ones or their replacements, they all seem to agree Trump had to be dealt with like the fucking moron with the mental capacity of a 5 year old he clearly is.

Yet, being trusted classic Repubs all, indulge him and humor him they did. Naturally, all to the great detriment of America and the American people, including if not moreso to the even more fucking moronic mental midgets who ever for one second entertained the notion of supporting and voting for him or any other Repub.[/QUOTE]And yet, he's still not charged with any wrongdoing. What else do they need, seriously?

Here is a typical liberal soul-searching article. Which in their holier-than-the-pope fashion are trying to figure out if charging Trump with a crime is worth it.

[QUOTE]Imagine, as many detractors of Donald Trump do, that the former president ends up decked out in full orange, successfully prosecuted and dragged off to prison in an unprecedented incarceration more commonly associated with third world nations or undemocratic states.

Or consider the possibility that Trump is indeed indicted on charges stemming from the House Jan. 6 committee and Department of Justice but found not guilty, fueling partisan anger and conspiracy theories about a "deep state" out to get Trump.[/QUOTE]Then it's all about "on the one hand" and "on the other hand" and more hesitation and more soul-searching.

Oh give me a break!

I don't give a shit about any theories and how anyone would feel. Did Trump commit a crime, yes or no?

If yes, he needs to be charged.

If no. Well, I can't imagine "no" after everything the Committee has uncovered. But what I think doesn't matter; he can have his day in court.

The article I quoted above does lean in this direction at the end, it's just there shouldn't be any soul-searching about it. Charge the bastard. What Repubs never do is soul-searching. They set a goal and go for it. Coldly, boldly, relentlessly. That's how they win.

The Pros and Cons of Charging Trump With a Crime.

[URL]https://usnews.com/news/the-report/articles/2022-06-24/the-pros-and-cons-of-charging-trump-with-a-crime[/URL]

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2719520]Inflation Hits Four-Decade High of 9. 1%. Real GDP declined in the first quarter of 2022, and it looks like it will drop in the second quarter as well. Way to go Joe. But no worries. Mr. Clueless is on his way to Saudi Arabia to suck some cock. I am sure that will work.[/QUOTE]Yet another too intelligent quotient challenged to ask the most obvious question then realize that high inflation is currently a worldwide phenomenon. When one is only capable of parroting what they read from right wingnut blogs or hear from youtube shock jock wannabes then this is all you get. Sadly talking about sucking cock nor anything else will help you with this as low IQs are genetically acquired. You can't suck your way to a higher IQ.

Scroll down and pick your country.

[URL]https://www.ft.com/content/088d3368-bb8b-4ff3-9df7-a7680d4d81b2[/URL]

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2719669]And yet, he's still not charged with any wrongdoing. What else do they need, seriously?

Here is a typical liberal soul-searching article. Which in their holier-than-the-pope fashion are trying to figure out if charging Trump with a crime is worth it.

Then it's all about "on the one hand" and "on the other hand" and more hesitation and more soul-searching.

Oh give me a break!

I don't give a shit about any theories and how anyone would feel. Did Trump commit a crime, yes or no?

If yes, he needs to be charged.

If no. Well, I can't imagine "no" after everything the Committee has uncovered. But what I think doesn't matter; he can have his day in court.

The article I quoted above does lean in this direction at the end, it's just there shouldn't be any soul-searching about it. Charge the bastard. What Repubs never do is soul-searching. They set a goal and go for it. Coldly, boldly, relentlessly. That's how they win.

The Pros and Cons of Charging Trump With a Crime.

[URL]https://usnews.com/news/the-report/articles/2022-06-24/the-pros-and-cons-of-charging-trump-with-a-crime[/URL][/QUOTE]Imagine a shitlib so brainwashed, stupid and / or arrogant that after Bill's rapes, Hillary's emails, Nancy's insider trading, Sleepy Joe and Hunter's Chinese / Ukrainian kickbacks, they're talking seriously about attempting to charge Trump with a crime over some unarmed people walking into and out of a building.

We can't live with these leftists. A quarter to a third of the country has no grasp upon reality. As well as the lunacy above, they think that men can give birth, the world is going to end in 9 years because of cow farts, and you can kill your baby because privacy.

Bring on the separation. It'll be messy, but we'll be in a better and saner place by the end of it.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2719669]And yet, he's still not charged with any wrongdoing. What else do they need, seriously?

Here is a typical liberal soul-searching article. Which in their holier-than-the-pope fashion are trying to figure out if charging Trump with a crime is worth it.

Then it's all about "on the one hand" and "on the other hand" and more hesitation and more soul-searching.

Oh give me a break!

I don't give a shit about any theories and how anyone would feel. Did Trump commit a crime, yes or no?

If yes, he needs to be charged.

If no. Well, I can't imagine "no" after everything the Committee has uncovered. But what I think doesn't matter; he can have his day in court.

The article I quoted above does lean in this direction at the end, it's just there shouldn't be any soul-searching about it. Charge the bastard. [/QUOTE]I expect a lot will happen in the next ten days.

And a indictment of TrumpShit to happen before the end of July.

The House SubCommitte (on the January 6th attack of our Capital) has a block of Prime-Time television scheduled for a Jul 21st (final?) hearng.

The whole evening will just go over the 3 hours & 17 minutes from when TrumpShit attacked his driver to when he sent his gangs of armed deplorables home.

Nearly 200 minutes of duty dereliction for the subcommittee to cover, detail and critique.

After which I expect the January 6th subcommittee will turn its (still in progress) investigation over to the DOJ.

Enough has been already developed in both of the investigations (the 6th's committee & DOJ).

It will still only take a few days after both investigations are merged.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2719669]

The article I quoted above does lean in this direction at the end, it's just there shouldn't be any soul-searching about it. Charge the bastard. What Repubs never do is soul-searching. They set a goal and go for it. Coldly, boldly, relentlessly. That's how they win.

The Pros and Cons of Charging Trump With a Crime.

[URL]https://usnews.com/news/the-report/articles/2022-06-24/the-pros-and-cons-of-charging-trump-with-a-crime[/URL][/QUOTE]Legal professionals need to decide if any cases can be proven beyond a reasonable doubt, which of course is a very high standard. If so then they need to move forward. Our jury system works a lot. Walking on eggshells for fear of giving rise to more "deep state" hogwash conspiracy theories shouldn't be a consideration for a moment. That's all coming at us at with both barrels from a segment of our society regardless. Their whole MO and way of life is playing the victim and pitching unproven nonsense, as it is for Trump, and this will continue unabated no matter.

P.S. Repubs don't always win. They lose a lot. And though historically the pendellum swings back and forth, they recently lost the Senate, the WH, and the coup attempt orchestrated by some failed.

[QUOTE=ScatManDoo;2719678]I expect a lot will happen in the next ten days.

And a indictment of TrumpShit to happen before the end of July.

The House SubCommitte (on the January 6th attack of our Capital) has a block of Prime-Time television scheduled for a Jul 21st (final?) hearng.

The whole evening will just go over the 3 hours & 17 minutes from when TrumpShit attacked his driver to when he sent his gangs of armed deplorables home.

Nearly 200 minutes of duty dereliction for the subcommittee to cover, detail and critique.

After which I expect the January 6th subcommittee will turn its (still in progress) investigation over to the DOJ.

Enough has been already developed in both of the investigations (the 6th's committee & DOJ).

It will still only take a few days after both investigations are merged.[/QUOTE]I really hope you're right.

[QUOTE=Paulie97;2719683]Legal professionals need to decide if any cases can be proven beyond a reasonable doubt, which of course is a very high standard. If so then they need to move forward. Our jury system works a lot. Walking on eggshells for fear of giving rise to more "deep state" hogwash conspiracy theories shouldn't be a consideration for a moment. That's all coming at us at with both barrels from a segment of our society regardless. Their whole MO and way of life is playing the victim and pitching unproven nonsense, as it is for Trump, and this will continue unabated no matter.

P.S. Repubs don't always win. They lose a lot. And though historically the pendellum swings back and forth, they recently lost the Senate, the WH, and the coup attempt orchestrated by some failed.[/QUOTE]Yes, but if we're honest, the senate losing was a result of Trump's insane self-defeating arrogance. And in terms of the coup we came dangerously close to a catastrophe.

Trump told Raffensperger to find 11,000 votes. He threatened him with a criminal prosecution. It happened 1. 5 years ago. It's on tape. He should've already been prosecuted just for that thing alone.

The problem with AGs is that they always try to avoid taking the risk. This is the case when they must take the risk, IMHO.

[QUOTE=ChrisP;2719676]
We can't live with these leftists. A quarter to a third of the country has no grasp upon reality. As well as the lunacy above, they think that men can give birth, the world is going to end in 9 years because of cow farts, and you can kill your baby because privacy.

Bring on the separation. It'll be messy, but we'll be in a better and saner place by the end of it.[/QUOTE]Yeah, I can see a red-blue divide. It might be the only way.

Like so many things the left proposes, when I heard about ESG scores, I really, really thought they were a joke. There are so many times I have heard things on South Park (PC Principal, check your privilege, microagressions, Chinese censorship, and Trans bathrooms) that were so crazy and far fetched I could not believe they were real.

On the one hand, I have to hand it to the Dems. The ESG score was a great way to push dumb Dem values and see how many countries and companies adhered to them. Worse, American money was being used to give preference to countries and companies that followed dumb Dem values.

Well, as we saw with climate change, it worked great until people had no water, jobs, food, or power. Ghana, Sri Lanka, and the Netherlands have been pummeled, but there are more to come.

Here in Texas we have had a heat wave and the power grid, our own power grid, has been in danger of failing because we went too damned green with the windmills. The reality is they are fine for generating electricity but not when there is high demand and not when the wind dies down.

It is funny to see how California is running out of water but Saudi Arabia is doing fine. That is because SA has actually built desalination plants while California has done nothing.

It was easy to make fun of Biden's energy policy, but we have enough sane people to fight it. These other countries do not. All of Europe is afraid that natural gas will be shut off, but they are worried about excess methane from cow farts. You cannot make this shit up.

Then there is the high gasoline crap. Biden has said he will keep pouring money into Ukraine and is willing to keep gasoline prices up for as long as it takes to defeat Russia. The concept that we suffer financially while enriching Russia makes no sense to me, but I am not a dumb Dem.

The morons at the DEA have policies killing 100,000+ people per year. I want to addict the DEA to pain pills, cut them off, and say "Hey, these are no good for you, do not take them" and force them on the street to die from heroin and fentanyl like they have done to so many people in chronic pain.

But the ESG / Climate change crew is making the DEA look like girls scouts. If this keep going, I want to break away the country in two. Going without food, water, and power is not a cute debate. It is about time to say fuck you Biden. We are going to build refineries, drill for oil, and we will pay California for their fruits and nuts. If you dumb Dems want to go back to the stone age, have at it.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2719710]I really hope you're right.

Yes, but if we're honest, the senate losing was a result of Trump's insane self-defeating arrogance. And in terms of the coup we came dangerously close to a catastrophe.

Trump told Raffensperger to find 11,000 votes. He threatened him with a criminal prosecution. It happened 1. 5 years ago. It's on tape. He should've already been prosecuted just for that thing alone.

The problem with AGs is that they always try to avoid taking the risk. This is the case when they must take the risk, IMHO.[/QUOTE]When you're dealing with a crime that hinges on the accused actually knowing something and not being a blithering idiot too stupid to, for example, know that he / Trump is the loser who lost the election to Biden, the Trumps will have a hugely convincing natural defence argument going for them; all evidence supports the conclusion that they are indeed that stupid.

What is needed is inarguable evidence that he knew he was the loser when he was asking fellow Repubs to accept his Big Lie and help him overturn a free and fair election.

The only expertise in anything Don the Con has exhibited is in knowing exactly which words to omit in order to keep himself out of the slammer all these decades.

[QUOTE=ChrisP;2719623]Of course "racism", according to the wacko left, only works one way. There are all kind of black organizations, newspapers, TV channels, community groups etc in the US, which are peopled by and exist solely to support and advance black people. Same for Jewish organizations, Indian organizations, Chinese organizations, etc. These are all spoken of approvingly by leftists and their fake news media. Many of them even get welfare gibsmedats (mostly paid for by white taxpayers).

But if a group of white people get together, even by accident, the reaction from the same people is "REEEEEEEEE![/QUOTE]Evidently Chrissy doesn't have a clue as to what racial self-interest is and how it differs from racism. I am almost certain that Chrissy views groups like the Proud Boys, the Oath Keepers, the 1%ers, the Patriot Front and the rest as social organizations who don't have a mean bone in their collective bodies. After all, anybody who believes that the riot at the Capitol was a peaceful demonstration will believe virtually anything.

Your white robe is showing!

[QUOTE=ChrisP;2719627]Average living standards in the US are among the highest in the world.

We already had your commie bullshit argument 50 years ago. The US beat the USSR because your socialist shit doesn't work, no matter how good you and your "peer-reviewed" Marxist 'professors' try and make it sound.

The irony is that America is failing now because it is becoming socialist and wacko left, with endless debt, gibsmedats, useless low IQ welfare immigrants, and useless green bullshit that costs trillions and cripples the economy. Meanwhile China doesn't have immigration, doesn't have gibsmedats and didn't fall for the green bullshit, and they are soaring ahead and taking over the world.[/QUOTE]Isn't that what you tell everybody who thinks the US can be better?

You fail to realize (naturally) that much of the debt that the US has come from RethugliKKKan "trickle down economics" horse hockey. The moron brigade doesn't understand that "rich people" stay "rich" not by spending what they have but by hording what they have.

The moron brigade still claims that these "useless low IQ welfare immigrants" are all coming to take your jobs. You, Chrissy, have said so yourself. So unless your job is of an unskilled nature, these immigrants ain't going to take nuttin'.

The simple facts of the matter is that you believe in a "USA for white people" mantra. All of your post say that in one form or another. The simple facts are that you are scared spitless that the US is becoming "browner" and you can't do anything to stop it. All of your post say that in one form or another.

If you want to live under a dictator, please move to China. Or Russia. Or anywhere else where don't have the freedom to spout your BS. The majority of folks in the US don't want a dictator and never have.

Your white robe is showing.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2719710]I really hope you're right.

Yes, but if we're honest, the senate losing was a result of Trump's insane self-defeating arrogance. And in terms of the coup we came dangerously close to a catastrophe.

Trump told Raffensperger to find 11,000 votes. He threatened him with a criminal prosecution. It happened 1. 5 years ago. It's on tape. He should've already been prosecuted just for that thing alone.

The problem with AGs is that they always try to avoid taking the risk. This is the case when they must take the risk, IMHO.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2021/01/the_media_are_lying_about_trumps_phone_call_with_raffensperger.html[/URL]

Here's what really happened on the phone call. First, Trump wasn't the only person on the phone. Also present were Mark Meadows, Mike Pompeo, and multiple attorneys. There isn't the slightest chance that they would have allowed Trump to beg Raffensperger for illegal votes or to threaten him.

Second, contrary to what the media implied, Trump was not operating off the premise that he lost Georgia. If that had been the case, it would indeed have been wrong for Trump to beg for Raffensperger to "find" votes for him.

Instead, Trump was operating from the assertion that he won Georgia. He opened the call with a strong recitation of the facts showing massive fraud on Raffensperger's watch. According to Trump's evidence, he didn't lose by 11,780 votes; he won by well over 300,000 votes, including votes for Trump that disappeared and illegal votes for Biden. Here are some of Trump's statements in that regard:

"I think it's pretty clear that we won. We won very substantially in Georgia. ".

"We have. Anywhere from 250300,000 ballots were dropped mysteriously into the rolls. ".

"We think that if you check the signatures a real check of the signatures going back in Fulton County you'll find at least a couple of hundred thousand of forged signatures. . ".

Trump pointed to 4,925 illegal out-of-state voters, 2,326 absentee ballots from vacant addresses, 5,000 dead people voting, and improperly handled drop boxes. And he brought up the allegations that Georgia is shredding evidence as fast as it can.

[URL]https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/06/07/georgia-gop-censures-secretary-of-state-brad-raffensperger-for-dereliction-of-his-constitutional-duty/[/URL]

The Georgia Republican Party censured Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger on Saturday for "dereliction of his constitutional duty. ".

WHEREAS, Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger failed to perform his duties in accordance with the laws and Constitution of the state of Georgia, and Republican Party values, including but not limited to:

Entering into the Compromise Settlement Agreement and Release, which changed Georgia's absentee voting procedures outside the Constitutionally prescribed format set forth in Georgia law.

Undermining the security of our elections by allowing mass mailings of absentee applications by his office and third parties which created opportunities for fraud and overwhelmed election offices; rendering accurate signature matching nearly impossible; allowing ballot drop boxes without proper chain of custody; and ignoring sworn affidavits and evidence of voter fraud;.

WHEARAS, the fecklessness and failures of Secretary Raffensperger were enabled by the actions and inactions by others such as LT. Governor Duncan, who denied that there was election fraud and punished Georgia Republican State Senators who asked for election audits; Attorney General Carr, who allowed his office to file an amicus brief opposing the lawsuit asking for inspection of the Fulton County absentee ballots; and legislative leaders who failed to fully address known election issues prior to the runoff; all have, either by their direct action or inaction, significantly eroded confidence in our state's election system.

[URL]https://www.worldtribune.com/report-still-no-chain-of-custody-for-hundreds-of-thousands-of-georgia-ballots/[/URL]

April 9, 2021.

Report: Still no chain of custody for hundreds of thousands of Georgia ballots.

The Georgia Secretary of State's office reported 1. 3 million absentee vote-by-mail ballots were cast in the 2020 election. The Georgia Star News report noted that polling performed by John McLaughlin & Associates suggests that 600,000 of those ballots were placed in drop boxes throughout the state.

The Star News in December filed Open Records requests to Georgia's 159 counties in an effort to procure copies of the ballot transfer documentation. As of Thursday, the outlet has only received chain of custody documentation from 59 counties.

Based on the estimated 600,000 votes placed in drop boxes statewide, the outlet reports that it has yet to receive documentation for 355,918, or 59.3 percent of those 600,000 ballots.

[QUOTE=ChrisP;2719676]Imagine a shitlib so brainwashed, stupid and / or arrogant that after Bill's rapes, Hillary's emails, Nancy's insider trading, Sleepy Joe and Hunter's Chinese / Ukrainian kickbacks, they're talking seriously about attempting to charge Trump with a crime over some unarmed people walking into and out of a building.

We can't live with these leftists. A quarter to a third of the country has no grasp upon reality. As well as the lunacy above, they think that men can give birth, the world is going to end in 9 years because of cow farts, and you can kill your baby because privacy.

Bring on the separation. It'll be messy, but we'll be in a better and saner place by the end of it.[/QUOTE]Imagine a rightwingnut so brainwashed and / or arrogant that after all of the Mango Mussolini's grifting, flaunting of all of the norms of decency, ignoring of the emoluments clause, lies, et cetera that they still believe that the election was stolen and that the folks who marched to the Capitol were unarmed and peacefully protesting.

We can't live with these righties. A quarter of the country has no grasp on reality. As well as the lunacy above, they believe that transgender people don't really exist, that the climate isn't changing for the worse and that fetuses are babies after 6 weeks but someone who is 20 weeks pregnant can't drive in a HOV lane because there aren't two people in the car.

But let's not bring on a separation. Just bring on the Army.

[QUOTE=JustTK;2719581]Elvis, your refutal of my comment by mention of billionaires kind of proves my point. There are 614 billionaires in USA, So 614 people have arrived at the end of the rainbow. That's a miniscule number. Whereas, the other 329,499,386 are still being fed that BS propaganda story that if you work hard you can achieve success.

Currently, the top 1% hold 32% of the wealth, whereas the bottom 50% hold just 2. 6%. That statistic alone is truly sickening and demonstrates all you need to know the bottom 50% are being fed a lie! It wasn't always like that. The top 10% of wealth-owners, used to own 4550% in 1913, but that fell to 3035% in 1948. This shows the staggering funneling of money up the ladder in the USA in the last few decades.
[/QUOTE]JustTK, the joke we used to make about communism was "We communists are fair and believe in equality. Why does your neighbor have 2 cars and you have one? Become communists, and you both will have no cars. ".

Yes, I have seen the nonsense about how people are not better off now than they were in the 1990's but that is bunk. The whole pie has grown bigly since then, and the poor are better off than they were.

The bigger issue is who do the pols serve, us or the billionaires? I think you know the answer to that. Thing is the election of Trump was, and this is ironic because he himself is a billionaire, a middle finger to the ruling elite.

As for the billionaires keeping people down, that is just pure BS. Acai is a fruit / pine nut that was brought to the USA by a hippie type guy a few decades ago. I met him. He liked the taste so much he brought it here. He was putting it in drinks, ice cream ETC. I joked that Coke was going to keep him down, and he said it was the opposite. They encouraged him. They told him if he kept driving his sales higher he would be big enough for Coke to acquire. The same goes in tech. The startups are always looking to be bought by Facebook / Meta and Google.

I remember people incredulous when Facebook bought Instagram for $1 billion. The thought was they overpaid but now they are Facebook's crown jewel. The people who say you cannot make it here if you do not work hard are full of it.

The underlying fundamental issue with the USA and this is strange to say but the women are not having as many kids. Everyone thinks inflation is due to excessive money printing and it is but the demand side is more important and inflation is really driven by the number of young people. Once a person hits age 47, they consume less and less of all things save for health care.

With less inflation, that allows the federal reserve to stimulate growth with ultra low interest rates. This is what causes the huge disparities in wealth. In the early 1980's when we had high interest rates, a business making $1 million a year may be worth $4 million. A tech company with decent growth prospects making $1 million per year may be valued as high as $50 million or more.

Because profits are so important and multiplied as high as they are, there is enormous pressure to keep costs low. When you have a PE ratio of 50 plus like Amazon did, every $1 increase in wages is $50+ out of Jeff Bezos pocket. This drives not just companies but all of society to be on enormous edge. The thinking is if we upset the apple cart the enormous wealth generated will fall. So the government has gotten together with the wealthy and have used this as an excuse to wage war on our freedoms. For the most part, the most basic civil rights are gone. Hell, if you mention to the police you know your rights, they will assume you are guilty of something.

What pisses me off is that when people are asked about searches. They say, "If you have nothing to hide, why not let them?" It is as if the notion that the police may plant something is impossible or are up to no good in another way. I would not have believed this if a lawyer had not told this to me but one guy was arrested because his Viagra was not in a prescription bottle. He had 10 pills and back then they were worth like $200. They arrested him, put him in jail, and when he was let go two days later, the pills were gone. I got to hear stories like this all the time. If it was not the lawyer but the guy, I would not have believed it. I would have said, "Come on, what did you really do?" but the police arrested him so they could steal his Viagra.

When you have companies so on edge with profits, they are susceptible to the police saying we are here to keep the order. Snowden let us know we were being searched illegally and he is in Russia now while the guys who are doing and have done it go free. That is the issue I have with the USA.

I have decided that other countries want to do what the USA has but eventually I want to live in a country where the government is not as trusted or efficient as we are. I am also wanting one with a lot more younger people.

FWIW, JustTK, my brother traveled the world looking for the best country in the world to live in and after all his travels, he came back here. It is not the land of the free anymore (not sure if it ever really was) but it is still the land of opportunity.

One of the reasons I traveled so much to South America was that the demographics were so much more favorable, and they still are. Africa and South America have the best demographics for growth in the world.

[QUOTE=PVMonger;2719875]Isn't that what you tell everybody who thinks the US can be better?

You fail to realize (naturally) that much of the debt that the US has come from RethugliKKKan "trickle down economics" horse hockey. The moron brigade doesn't understand that "rich people" stay "rich" not by spending what they have but by hording what they have.

The simple facts of the matter is that you believe in a "USA for white people" mantra. All of your post say that in one form or another. The simple facts are that you are scared spitless that the US is becoming "browner" and you can't do anything to stop it. All of your post say that in one form or another.

If you want to live under a dictator, please move to China. Or Russia. Or anywhere else where don't have the freedom to spout your BS. The majority of folks in the US don't want a dictator and never have.

Your white robe is showing.[/QUOTE]I think what Chris is saying is we want to keep the red states, and you keep the blue. That way, you all can enjoy your climate change policies, corrupt as shit FBI and CIA, throwing money at Ukraine, your stupid ESG scores, porous borders, and anxiety over cow farts. If you have not noticed, everyone is moving to the red states anyway.

I am not sure where you get off with your racist crap. We red states love productive, legal immigrants. If you guys want to let the trash in, that is fine with us but now you can pay for it.

[QUOTE=PVMonger;2719882] they still believe that the election was stolen and that the folks who marched to the Capitol were unarmed and protesting peacefully [/QUOTE]And there we go again! Another leftist claiming the protesters were armed, when in fact not a single one was found to be. And not a single fatality in the entire protest other than Ashli Babbitt, an unarmed protester shot dead without warning by a police officer. Of course, you probably consider the fiery BLM riots to be "peaceful protests".

[QUOTE=PVMonger;2719882]But let's not bring on a separation. Just bring on the Army.[/QUOTE]I don't think you'll like the results when that happens. The rank and file, unlike the prancing princess generals in the Pentagon who are angling for lucrative Raytheon contracts and other deep state gigs when they retire, might not be so keen to attack heritage Americans in favor of election-stealers, illegal immigrants, trannies and groomers (aka the democrat base).

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2719876]Trump was operating from the assertion that he won Georgia. He opened the call with a strong recitation of the facts showing massive fraud on Raffensperger's watch. According to Trump's evidence, he didn't lose by 11,780 votes; he won by well over 300,000 votes, including votes for Trump that disappeared and illegal votes for Biden. Here are some of Trump's statements in that regard:

"I think it's pretty clear that we won. We won very substantially in Georgia. ".

"We have. Anywhere from 250300,000 ballots were dropped mysteriously into the rolls. ".

"We think that if you check the signatures a real check of the signatures going back in Fulton County you'll find at least a couple of hundred thousand of forged signatures. . ".

Trump pointed to 4,925 illegal out-of-state voters, 2,326 absentee ballots from vacant addresses, 5,000 dead people voting, and improperly handled drop boxes. And he brought up the allegations that Georgia is shredding evidence as fast as it can..[/QUOTE]Good post. Over 350,000 illegal ballots in Georgia alone. Democrats love "undocumented" ballots almost as much as they love "undocumented" immigrants.

As Trump said: he won. By a lot.

[QUOTE=PVMonger;2719875]still claims that these "useless low IQ welfare immigrants" are all coming to take your jobs.

The simple facts of the matter is that you believe in a "USA for white people" mantra.[/QUOTE]Wrong again. The primary reason the democrats want low IQ turd world illegals is to create a permanent welfare underclass, entirely beholden to them, which will allow them an excuse to grow the government (and their own wealth and power) in order to 'provide services' to the underclass.

As a secondary matter, they (and the treacherous RINO / Cuckservative / Chamber of Commerce types whom we are currently banishing from the GOP, see Liz Cheney primary next month for an update) want them as a serf class. Rather than hire American tradesmen (or American teenagers for simple jobs like lawnmowing as people used to in the old days) they can get some dodgy Guatemalans to do the work on the cheap. Of course it will probably be shoddy and soon break, but few people think long term when they can save up front.

Of course none of the illegals will pay tax, and many of the American tradesmen will be forced onto welfare as a result, so it's a twofer to increase the national debt. Bring on $40 trillion!

Finally, not "USA for white people" but "USA for heritage Americans". That includes white, black and native people who were here before the 1965 Immigration Act was passed <be under false pretenses</ be . The sponsors of the bill such as Ted Kennedy flat out lied (a democrat habit, as we see with your overt lies about "armed protesters" on Jan 6) and told the American people that the country's demographics would not be changed. We must correct that lie and return to the demographics that made the country great in the 20th Century.

[QUOTE=Paulie97;2719683] coup attempt orchestrated by some failed.[/QUOTE]Boy, an entirely unarmed coup attempt! Did everyone forget to bring their guns? That really was an oversight for people planning a coup, eh?

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2719769]Yeah, I can see a red-blue divide. It might be the only way.

Like so many things the left proposes, when I heard about ESG scores, I really, really thought they were a joke. There are so many times I have heard things on South Park (PC Principal, check your privilege, microagressions, Chinese censorship, and Trans bathrooms) that were so crazy and far fetched I could not believe they were real.

On the one hand, I have to hand it to the Dems. The ESG score was a great way to push dumb Dem values and see how many countries and companies adhered to them. Worse, American money was being used to give preference to countries and companies that followed dumb Dem values.

Well, as we saw with climate change, it worked great until people had no water, jobs, food, or power. Ghana, Sri Lanka, and the Netherlands have been pummeled, but there are more to come.

Here in Texas we have had a heat wave and the power grid, our own power grid, has been in danger of failing because we went too damned green with the windmills. The reality is they are fine for generating electricity but not when there is high demand and not when the wind dies down.

It is funny to see how California is running out of water but Saudi Arabia is doing fine. That is because SA has actually built desalination plants while California has done nothing.

It was easy to make fun of Biden's energy policy, but we have enough sane people to fight it. These other countries do not. All of Europe is afraid that natural gas will be shut off, but they are worried about excess methane from cow farts. You cannot make this shit up..[/QUOTE]Yeah this ESG crap is horrifying. The truly terrifying thing is that it is completely backed by Jewish finance, IE Lawrence Fink, Chairman and CEO of Blackrock, the world's biggest investment management company with $10 trillion under its control. These finance behemoths are now using their leverage to threaten companies and indeed countries with divestment if they don't implement the wacko green ESG Agenda (and in the West, the diversity Agenda). They own and control so much, and are now using that power to enforce deeply damaging policies that nobody wants, even at a cost to themselves.

It is similar to George Soros, of the same tribe as Fink, who made his billions as a predatory, socially-damaging currency speculator, and is now spending it funding far-left Globohomo movements that nobody wants (pushing tranny shit on kids, DAs who don't prosecute criminals, etc).

Fortunately for China (and now Russia) they are not entangled in these nefarious tentacles and so are free to have healthy policies that benefit their own people. That is also why third world countries are increasingly turning away from the West and toward China for investment and development. China doesn't push faggotry, trannies and climate bullshit on people who want none of it. They just want to turn a profit. Expect China to step in and help Sri Lanka, adding to most of Africa that they now essentially control (to the material benefit of most Africans).

When the big upheaval comes here in America, we must develop a system not reliant on Jewish finance or we risk falling prey to the same disasters again.

[QUOTE=ScatManDoo;2718901]Bannon simply ignored his subpoena.

Which was really dumb. TrumpShit dumb.

But Bannon is a leader in Trump's merry band of stupid losers.

He should join them in jail.

Soon he will.[/QUOTE]For the second time, in less than a week.

Bannon' federal judge refused to postpone the contempt trial.

Bannon might be behind bars before the end of July.

With the other deplorables.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2719710]

Yes, but if we're honest, the senate losing was a result of Trump's insane self-defeating arrogance. And in terms of the coup we came dangerously close to a catastrophe. [/QUOTE]If we are honest Republicans still lose a lot at all levels. They don't have any especially successful playbook though our system favors the rural over the urban.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2719710] Trump told Raffensperger to find 11,000 votes. He threatened him with a criminal prosecution. It happened 1. 5 years ago. It's on tape. He should've already been prosecuted just for that thing alone.

The problem with AGs is that they always try to avoid taking the risk. This is the case when they must take the risk, IMHO.[/QUOTE]Be patient. There are case backlogs in GA due to Covid. A grand jury was selected in May and supoenas were sent out July 5.

You are right that prosecutors don't like losing / embarrassment and are more prone to get all their ducks in a row if the accused can bring excellent lawyers. It's different when charging someone with no money who'll often take a plea deal. That's how most cases are settled.

[URL]https://youtu.be/AK8GQIHj36w[/URL]

What do you think of this? Is Rio a better place to be because of the chance of nuclear war?

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2719917]I think what Chris is saying is we want to keep the red states, and you keep the blue. That way, you all can enjoy your climate change policies, corrupt as shit FBI and CIA, throwing money at Ukraine, your stupid ESG scores, porous borders, and anxiety over cow farts. If you have not noticed, everyone is moving to the red states anyway.

I am not sure where you get off with your racist crap. We red states love productive, legal immigrants. If you guys want to let the trash in, that is fine with us but now you can pay for it.[/QUOTE]Once all of the rightwingnuts move to China or to Russia or to North Korea or to other authoritarian-run countries, the rest of the US will be far better off. And take the Mango Mussolini, his hideous spawn, all of the White Supremacists and the rest of the moron brigade with you. Good riddance.

[QUOTE=PVMonger;2719864]Evidently Chrissy doesn't have a clue as to what racial self-interest is and how it differs from racism. [/QUOTE]Simple, PissVomitMonger: it's "racial self-interest" if it's non-white people doing it, and "racism" if it's white people. At least according to your fake news media, which has fewer viewers and believers every day.

[QUOTE=ChrisP;2719627]Average living standards in the US are among the highest in the world.

The US beat the USSR because your socialist shit doesn't work.

The irony is that America is failing now because it is becoming socialist and wacko left..[/QUOTE]USA average living standards are quite high when you count in the grossly exagerrated standards of the billionnarios. But for Average Joe. The 125,000,000 - its paycheck to paycheck. A disgusting outcome for a wealthy nation.

The USSR had the fastest growing economy for decades post WW2. They won the race in to space. They achieved a hell of a lot. China also laid the platform for its sensational economic growth by implementing huge state investments in infrastructure etc.

Socialism and communism are systems of cooperation. Capitalism (spit) is a system of competition. So when 2 systems compete again each other, which do you expect to win? Its obvious, especially given it was 90% of the world against a small enclave.

What social and left policies are the USA implementing? I can only see extreme right wing neo-lib policies from both parties.

[QUOTE=PVMonger;2719633]Actually, you are correct in some assertions and wrong in others.

In a previous post, you said that you believed that fewer and fewer current immigrants have college degrees.

But saying the nobody wants to immigrate to the US unless they are desperate is a bit disingenuous.[/QUOTE]You say I got a few things wrong, but then you went on your crusade, but didn't point out anything I got wrong until the final line. I admit that I only have anecdotal evidence to show "no one" (form of expression) educated wants to move to USA. But then you said it was disingenuous without posting any evidence either. I would love to see some stats on that, if anyone has any. If there has been a fall in interest from educated people wanting to go live in USA?

"In a previous post, you said that you believed that fewer and fewer current immigrants have college degrees. ".

That wasn't me.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2719889]JustTK, the joke we used to make about communism was "We communists are fair and believe in equality. Why does your neighbor have 2 cars and you have one? Become communists, and you both will have no cars. ".
[/QUOTE]Bit of a ramble that post, Elvis. Hehe. I am not going to attempt to reply. Likelistening to my Grandma drift from one point to the next, with very little relation between paragraphs.

Just answer me this please. What about the 125.000. 000 Americans living from paychek to paycheck. Are these all fair collateral damage for your 600 billionnaires?

[QUOTE=JustTK;2720042]USA average living standards are quite high when you count in the grossly exagerrated standards of the billionnarios. But for Average Joe. The 125,000,000 - its paycheck to paycheck. A disgusting outcome for a wealthy nation.

The USSR had the fastest growing economy for decades post WW2. They won the race in to space. They achieved a hell of a lot. China also laid the platform for its sensational economic growth by implementing huge state investments in infrastructure etc.

Socialism and communism are systems of cooperation. Capitalism (spit) is a system of competition. So when 2 systems compete again each other, which do you expect to win? Its obvious, especially given it was 90% of the world against a small enclave.

What social and left policies are the USA implementing? I can only see extreme right wing neo-lib policies from both parties.[/QUOTE]Wait, XMan, claims everyone outside of Moscow and St. Pet. Is poor and there lives suck. Just another one of his ridiculous post. This is what the fake news wants you to believe, but it is just not true. The sanctions would work if we were actually enforcing them and producing gas, but our great President, forgot this in winning strategy. As usual they had no plan, and now we are making the war worse. Great post, thank you.

[QUOTE=JustTK;2720046]Bit of a ramble that post, Elvis. Hehe. I am not going to attempt to reply. Likelistening to my Grandma drift from one point to the next, with very little relation between paragraphs.

Just answer me this please. What about the 125.000. 000 Americans living from paychek to paycheck. Are these all fair collateral damage for your 600 billionnaires?[/QUOTE]Unfortunately it is way more then 125,000, living pay check to pay check, especially now. If you do not have a very good job, life is getting really tough in America, it is definitely not getting easier.

[QUOTE=ScatManDoo;2719964]For the second time, in less than a week.

Bannon' federal judge refused to postpone the contempt trial.

Bannon might be behind bars before the end of July.

With the other deplorables.[/QUOTE]Go ahead. Throw Bannon in jail after doing nothing to Eric Holder for the same "offence".

It will just show yet again to hundreds of millions of Americans the entirely biased and politicised state of the federal "justice" system, and bring the necessary breakup a step closer.

[QUOTE=DramaFree11;2720066]Unfortunately it is way more then 125,000, living pay check to pay check, especially now. If you do not have a very good job, life is getting really tough in America, it is definitely not getting easier.[/QUOTE]My post started out as 125 million. Until the website spellchk got hold of it. It was a estimate from 2021 research, so could well have changed since then.

[QUOTE=JustTK;2720100]My post started out as 125 million. Until the website spellchk got hold of it. It was a estimate from 2021 research, so could well have changed since then.[/QUOTE]Happens to be all the time. But in general my spelling sucks, regardless the economy is getting bad. Luckily I am in Texas and we are still doing ok.

[QUOTE=ChrisP;2720094]Go ahead. Throw Bannon in jail after doing nothing to Eric Holder for the same "offence".

It will just show yet again to hundreds of millions of Americans the entirely biased and politicised state of the federal "justice" system, and bring the necessary breakup a step closer.[/QUOTE]You are whacked. Bannon is not going to jail. You guys dreaming.

[QUOTE=JustTK;2720046]Bit of a ramble that post, Elvis. Hehe. I am not going to attempt to reply. Likelistening to my Grandma drift from one point to the next, with very little relation between paragraphs.

Just answer me this please. What about the 125.000. 000 Americans living from paychek to paycheck. Are these all fair collateral damage for your 600 billionnaires?[/QUOTE]Man,

You really do not get it. If money were a fixed item, then how do we have 7 billion people living today with a higher standard of living and living longer than ever than when there were 2 billion people on planet earth in the year 1900?

You are focused solely on how the pie is cut and are completely ignoring if the pie grows. Worse, you are putting the poverty of the poor on the backs of the rich versus the government and its crazy inefficient spending.

The rich are just the scapegoats. The fault lies with government. Hell, we just wasted $40 billion sending arms to Ukraine in losing cause, wasted God knows how many billions on vaccines with minimal efficacy that just expired. The defense department has yet to be audited. We could easily pay for health care for everyone if the bloated fucked up system was made more efficient. The government just points at the rich and blames them when in fact it is the government's fault. They do a horrible job of allocating tax dollars efficiently.

[QUOTE=ChrisP;2719950]Boy, an entirely unarmed coup attempt! Did everyone forget to bring their guns? That really was an oversight for people planning a coup, eh?[/QUOTE]Not only that but sadly all the SWAT teams were not at the Capitol that day but focused on the terrorists Peter Navarro and Roger Stone.

[QUOTE=ChrisP;2720094]Go ahead. Throw Bannon in jail after doing nothing to Eric Holder for the same "offence".

It will just show yet again to hundreds of millions of Americans the entirely biased and politicised state of the federal "justice" system, and bring the necessary breakup a step closer.[/QUOTE]You already failed in you attempt to compare Bannon's contempt to Holder in earlier posts.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2719816]When you're dealing with a crime that hinges on the accused actually knowing something and not being a blithering idiot too stupid to, for example, know that he / Trump is the loser who lost the election to Biden, the Trumps will have a hugely convincing natural defence argument going for them; all evidence supports the conclusion that they are indeed that stupid.

What is needed is inarguable evidence that he knew he was the loser when he was asking fellow Repubs to accept his Big Lie and help him overturn a free and fair election.

The only expertise in anything Don the Con has exhibited is in knowing exactly which words to omit in order to keep himself out of the slammer all these decades.[/QUOTE]Oh, I fully expect that his dumbness will be the main line of defense, but seriously? After he said this?

[QUOTE]So what are we going to do here folks? I only need 11,000 votes. Fellas, I need 11,000 votes. Give me a break.[/QUOTE]"Give me a break" Shiiiiit!

And Trump said it AFTER Raffensperger explained:

- "we don't agree that you have won. ".

- "the data you have is wrong".

- "Rudy Giuliani or his people, they sliced and diced that video and took it out of context".

- "We believe that we do have an accurate election".

[URL]https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/03/politics/trump-brad-raffensperger-phone-call-transcript/index.html[/URL]

But let's say he's really that dumb. So what?

I mean, look: tens if not hundreds of thousands of really dumb criminals get locked up every year in America.

Tens if not hundreds of thousands of criminals PLAYING DUMB get locked up as well.

Listen, I hope you guys are right and the prosecutors are simply getting their ducks in a row. But I won't be surprised (although I'd be appalled) if things go in a different direction.

[QUOTE]President Biden is said to have little appetite for prosecuting his predecessor, and Attorney General Garland may share the presidents concern that an attempt to send Trump to prison would polarize our nation even further.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.justsecurity.org/78718/the-easiest-case-for-the-prosecution-trumps-aiding-and-abetting-unlawful-occupation-of-the-capitol[/URL]

[QUOTE=ScatManDoo;2719964]For the second time, in less than a week.

Bannon' federal judge refused to postpone the contempt trial.

Bannon might be behind bars before the end of July.

With the other deplorables.[/QUOTE]LOL, whatever happened to fiery and fearless warrior who promised "the misdemeanor from hell" to Biden, Pelosi and DOJ?

[URL]https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/581608-defiant-bannon-warns-of-misdemeanor-from-hell-for-biden[/URL]

We're going on the offence, my ass.

[QUOTE=JustTK;2720045]You say I got a few things wrong, but then you went on your crusade, but didn't point out anything I got wrong until the final line. I admit that I only have anecdotal evidence to show "no one" (form of expression) educated wants to move to USA. But then you said it was disingenuous without posting any evidence either. I would love to see some stats on that, if anyone has any. If there has been a fall in interest from educated people wanting to go live in USA?

"In a previous post, you said that you believed that fewer and fewer current immigrants have college degrees. ".

That wasn't me.[/QUOTE]Actually, your post # 9013 intimated that: "My guess is that there has been a huge drop in immigrtnion of educated folk from developed countries. " You said educated and I interpreted that as "college degree". My bad.

The only stats I have about "educated people" (IE college educated folks) is what I posted previously. [URL]https://www.migrationpolicy.org/article/frequently-requested-statistics-immigrants-and-immigration-united-states[/URL] These stats are from 2019 because, probably, that's the last full year for which studies have been done.

Whether or not "educated" means folks with some post-secondary education or folks with only a high-school education or something else is immaterial, IMHO. The moron brigade always portrays immigrants, documented or not, as being low skilled and coming for their jobs.

Here is is folks!

[B]Conservatives[/B], including three former federal judges, concluded that the Mango Mussolini did indeed lose the 2020 election.

And guess who is reporting that? FUX "News", of all people. The brigade will, however, call this "fake news". [URL]https://www.foxnews.com/politics/prominent-conservatives-election-lost-not-stolen[/URL] The FUX "NewZ" article contains a link to the actual report which I have also included here. [URL]https://drive.google.com/file/d/1aqorZ61AYFqZU-EDQBBzjqfvAoC5nKcB/view[/URL] The text of the article above follows:

"A group of prominent conservatives released a new report Thursday outlining their investigation into the 2020 election and have concluded former President Trump's claims of a stolen election are unfounded.

The report, "Lost not stolen: The Conservative Case that Trump Lost and Biden Won the 2020 Presidential Election," was put together by three former federal judges and eight conservative leaders who investigated Trump's claims.

Over the course of a year, the group looked at all 64 cases of the Trump campaign's fraudulent claims in six key states and concluded that there were no substantial instances of fraud that would have changed the election results. The report goes state by state and claim by claim, taking time to investigate each legal case.

Fears of further damage to the electoral process drove the report, as allegations of fraud continue. Investigators said they fear that Trump supporters' unwillingness to see the election as lost could come back to haunt them if they flip the majority in the House and Senate this cycle.

"I think there is a lack of recognition that that goes both ways and that, should Republicans take over, you're opening the door for Democrats to say the same thing, and that corrodes the basic fundamental part of our democracy," Benjamin Ginsberg, an election attorney who has worked in Republican politics for decades, told FOX News.

Ginsberg, along with former senators John Danforth and Gordon H. Smith and longtime Republican congressional chief of staff David Hoppe, as well as former Solicitor General Ted Olson and former federal appeals court judges Michael Luttig, Michael McConnell and Thomas Griffith concluded that there were no substantial claims of fraud to change the election.

Griffith told Fox he felt it was important a group of conservatives do an investigation rather than rely on outside sources to investigate.

"I contacted Ben and a number of other longtime political conservatives to say, 'Let's look at this ourselves. Let's not rely on what The New York Times is telling us or our other outlets are telling us. Let's look at this ourselves. Let's spend the time. Let's do a deep dive into each of the contested states, Griffith said.

The report acknowledges that changes in voting due to the COVID-19 pandemic could have created opportunity for more fraud but found that was not the case.

"The performance of the system in 2020 was all the more remarkable because of the extraordinary circumstances caused by the COVID-19 pandemic, which precipitated changes on an unprecedented scope and timeline," according to the report.

"Some of those changes may have created possibilities for fraud, but there is no evidence that those risks materialized in reality; nor did they result in dampening voter participation. Quite the opposite. Nonetheless, moving forward, the states should redouble their efforts to strengthen the integrity of our voting systems and make it as easy to vote and as hard to cheat as possible for persons of every circumstance. ".

Claims of the 2020 election being stolen continue to come up on the campaign trail both from Trump and from potential voters. At a rally in Alaska recently, Trump said ballot counting needs to be watched.

"Democrats have proven, unfortunately, that the vote counter is far more important than the candidate is," Trump said.

This is exactly the kind of rhetoric Ginsberg, Griffith and their fellow authors insist is harmful to both the country and the Republican Party.

"One of the effects that the charges of fraudulent elections has is that it's going to depress Republican turnout — that if voters come to think their votes don't matter because the results are rigged, they'll stay home," Ginsberg said.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2720120]You really do not get it. If money were a fixed item,
[/QUOTE]I don't even know what that means so, for sure, I "really do not get it".

BTW: I never said money is a fixed item. I don't even know what that means.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2720120]how do we have 7 billion people living today with a higher standard of living and living longer than ever than when there were 2 billion people on planet earth in the year 1900?
[/QUOTE]We have it thru advances in science and technology. Most of it coming from public sector offices / organisations. Many major advancements come from the state sector.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2720120] The fault lies with government. Hell, we just wasted $40 billion sending arms to Ukraine in losing cause, wasted God knows how many billions on vaccines with minimal efficacy that just expired. The defense department has yet to be audited. We could easily pay for health care for everyone if the bloated fucked up system was made more efficient. The government just points at the rich and blames them when in fact it is the government's fault. They do a horrible job of allocating tax dollars efficiently.[/QUOTE]Spedning money on military is not a waste of money Elvis. It is a deliberate strategy. USA is a military state. All the rich players own stocks and shares in the major military suppliers. It makes them huge amounts of money when they spend on militray. Why do you think they take every excuse to increase militray spending every year?? Vaccines too. Its all about profit. The corrupt capitalist system where corporates buy policy at the expense of the people.

As I recall, over 4 years Trump got squat from Mexico to pay for replacing portions of already existing barriers (wall) after accusing them of only sending their rapists and murderers to the USA.

[B]Biden Gets Mexico To Pay $1.5 Billion[/B]

[URL]https://crooksandliars.com/2022/07/biden-gets-mexico-pay-15-billion[/URL]

Well, I guess fellow brilliant Repub diplomat Steve Bannon conned some money out of somebody with his Wall Fund scam. But I'm sure most if not all of those suckers were USA citizens, not Mexican citizens.

[QUOTE=PVMonger;2720285]Actually, your post # 9013 intimated that: "My guess is that there has been a huge drop in immigrtnion of educated folk from developed countries. " You said educated and I interpreted that as "college degree". My bad.

The only stats I have about "educated people" (IE college educated folks) is what I posted previously. .[/QUOTE]What I was really getting at is that (I estimate) very few educated people from developed countries want to move to the USA. As I said, why should they? I had a look thru the stats webpage that you linked, thanks. But its difficult to find any useful info, one way on another. For example: I can see that immigrants from developed European countries has dropped sharply. But that doesn't show a rate of new immigrants. It shows the total of immigrants living in USA. Maybe they have been there ages. But immigrant populations from Belgium, Germany, UK, Denmark, Ireland, Ausstralia, Austria, Netherlands, Norway, Sweden, Finland, Switz, All went down by large numbers. France and Spain went up. But overall, hugely down. Although not bullet proof, this points to a drop in interest in going to live in the USA from developed countries.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2720156]Oh, I fully expect that his dumbness will be the main line of defense, but seriously? After he said this?

"Give me a break" Shiiiiit!

And Trump said it after Raffensperger explained:

- "we don't agree that you have won. ".

- "the data you have is wrong".

- "Rudy Giuliani or his people, they sliced and diced that video and took it out of context".

- "We believe that we do have an accurate election".

[URL]https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/03/politics/trump-brad-raffensperger-phone-call-transcript/index.html[/URL]

But let's say he's really that dumb. So what?

I mean, look: tens if not hundreds of thousands of really dumb criminals get locked up every year in America.

Tens if not hundreds of thousands of criminals PLAYING DUMB get locked up as well.

Listen, I hope you guys are right and the prosecutors are simply getting their ducks in a row. But I won't be surprised (although I'd be appalled) if things go in a different direction.

[URL]https://www.justsecurity.org/78718/the-easiest-case-for-the-prosecution-trumps-aiding-and-abetting-unlawful-occupation-of-the-capitol[/URL][/QUOTE]I totally get what you mean.

But millions of Trump-adoring hillbillies will send him big chunks of their entitlement checks to hire (and then stiff) attorneys who will argue that "what are we going to do here, give me a break" is not saying, "fabricate some ballots and non existent votes for me. " It's only asking a question. And "give me a break" was referring to his need to know "what are we going to do here. ".

The dude fires relatively normal aids who, naturally, don't tell him what he wants to hear and replaces them with Powell, Flynn, Giuliani and other QAnon loons and drunks who he knows will say anything. "Yep, Mr. President, it does appear Leprachauns hiding under your bed stole the election from you". The sole reason being for him to go on FUX News and grandly announce, "People say Leprachauns hiding under my bed stole the election"!

Then in court the plea is, "Hey, I was only acting on what my trusted aids told me. ".

Setting up fall guys and dodging criminal prosecution is his only true expertise. His cons are as bad and obvious as those Nigerian Prince emails. But, like those, the key is to throw out a wide net and he's bound to snag some paying suckers. Even millions of them.

That said, I fully agree he should be indicted and tried. Even though the chances are great that at least one Trump-adoring hillbilly will wind up on the jury. America can not afford to let so-called potuses like Trump skate. And it is important for the evidence to be heard and put on the record wherever possible.

[QUOTE=ChrisP;2719945]Wrong again. The primary reason the democrats want low IQ turd world illegals is to create a permanent welfare underclass, entirely beholden to them, which will allow them an excuse to grow the government (and their own wealth and power) in order to 'provide services' to the underclass.

As a secondary matter, they (and the treacherous RINO / Cuckservative / Chamber of Commerce types whom we are currently banishing from the GOP, see Liz Cheney primary next month for an update) want them as a serf class. Rather than hire American tradesmen (or American teenagers for simple jobs like lawnmowing as people used to in the old days) they can get some dodgy Guatemalans to do the work on the cheap. Of course it will probably be shoddy and soon break, but few people think long term when they can save up front.

Of course none of the illegals will pay tax, and many of the American tradesmen will be forced onto welfare as a result, so it's a twofer to increase the national debt. Bring on $40 trillion!

Finally, not "USA for white people" but "USA for heritage Americans". That includes white, black and native people who were here before the 1965 Immigration Act was passed <be under false pretenses</ be . The sponsors of the bill such as Ted Kennedy flat out lied (a democrat habit, as we see with your overt lies about "armed protesters" on Jan 6) and told the American people that the country's demographics would not be changed. We must correct that lie and return to the demographics that made the country great in the 20th Century.[/QUOTE]Study after study has shown that "real Americans" won't do things like cut lawns, muck out stalls, carry mortar or do any of the other thousands of backbreaking jobs that "dodgy Guatemalans do. The moron brigade, though, believes otherwise.

The moron brigade has been hoodwinked. Even many of the same people who wanted Donnie the Dumbass to win have said so. But anybody dumb enough to believe that the election was stolen will believe anything. Every time the moron brigade says "fake news" everybody on the planet laughs at your ignorance.

And, by the way, your white robe is showing.

[QUOTE=ScatManDoo;2720128]You already failed in you attempt to compare Bannon's contempt to Holder in earlier posts.[/QUOTE]Horseshit. Both Eric Holder and Lois Lerner, a high-ranking leftist activist in the IRS who abused her power in the federal govt to target right-wing groups, were referred by Congress to the DoJ for prosecution for contempt. The biased DoJ, also run by leftwing activists abusing their power in the federal govt, declined to prosecute either of them.

Now that it's a rightwinger, they are all in. The Washington swamp is rotten and biased beyond repair, and its control over the country will not last.

[QUOTE=DramaFree11;2720048]Wait, XMan, claims everyone outside of Moscow and St. Pet. Is poor and there lives suck. Just another one of his ridiculous post. This is what the fake news wants you to believe, but it is just not true. The sanctions would work if we were actually enforcing them and producing gas, but our great President, forgot this in winning strategy. As usual they had no plan, and now we are making the war worse. Great post, thank you.[/QUOTE]The "sanctions" have boosted Russia's economy, by increasing the price of the oil, gas, fertilizer and food that it exports to India, China, and elsewhere in the world. That is why the rouble is trading at a 5 year high against the dollar. The people whom the sanctions are hurting are the American and European people, who have seen skyrocketing fuel costs (on top of already vast inflation from the covid hysteria and green bullshit) and in Europe are now actually rationing energy. Great job, Washington swamp.

[QUOTE=JustTK;2720042]
Socialism and communism are systems of cooperation. Capitalism (spit) is a system of competition. So when 2 systems compete again each other, which do you expect to win? Its obvious, especially given it was 90% of the world against a small enclave.
[/QUOTE]50 years ago communism encapsulated the whole of the USSR plus Eastern Europe, plus China (which actually was communist back then, with disastrous effect), plus much of south-east Asia and Africa. A great deal more than 10% of the world. You really are quite ignorant about history. May I suggest you educate yourself before attempting further comment.

[QUOTE=ChrisP;2720422]50 years ago communism encapsulated the whole of the USSR plus Eastern Europe, plus China (which actually was communist back then, with disastrous effect), plus much of south-east Asia and Africa. A great deal more than 10% of the world. You really are quite ignorant about history. May I suggest you educate yourself before attempting further comment.[/QUOTE]I agree.

I am still laughing to myself about the post JustTK made were he blamed FDR's economic policies for causing a post WW2 recession.

[QUOTE=ChrisP;2720420]The "sanctions" have boosted Russia's economy, by increasing the price of the oil, gas, fertilizer and food that it exports to India, China, and elsewhere in the world. That is why the rouble is trading at a 5 year high against the dollar. The people whom the sanctions are hurting are the American and European people, who have seen skyrocketing fuel costs (on top of already vast inflation from the covid hysteria and green bullshit) and in Europe are now actually rationing energy. Great job, Washington swamp.[/QUOTE]Yes, it just unbelievable how bad Bidden is screwing things up. They need help, quickly.

Alex Stein's recent viral video featuring Sandy "AOC" Cortes is hilarious and fitting for this forum. Got to admit, she may be the dumbest ***** in Washington but her ass did look good.

[URL]https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11012881/Moment-AOC-confronts-troll-harassing-Capitol-branding-favorite-big-booty-Latina.html[/URL]#comments.

The really telling thing about this is AOC's reaction. She had a meltdown, calling police and demanding the guy be arrested. Yes, that is the same AOC who just last week laughed at Justice Kavanaugh being forced out of a restaurant by a leftist mob gathering outside making threats, and said that "the point of protests is to make people uncomfortable".

But of course that doesn't apply to entitled little democrat bartender-princesses, who have an inflated sense of their importance and intelligence because guys always sat nodding through their woke globohomo communist horseshit because they were trying to get in their pants. If anyone makes them feel uncomfortable, they deserve to be jailed, or perhaps just shot on sight.

In a sane world, AOC and Kamala Harris would never have left their bars and we would be writing reports about them. Bring on the collapse and restoration.

"Trump accused Germany of becoming 'totally dependent' on Russian energy at the UN. The German just smirked. " - Washington Post on September 25,2018.

([URL]https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2018/09/25/trump-accused-germany-becoming-totally-dependent-russian-energy-un-germans-just-smirked/[/URL]).

Whether you love the guy or hate the guy, Trump was right on so many topics. He was far from woke, so that didn't work well for him. Only four years later, ask the Germans today how they are going to heat their homes this Winter. They are currently rationing warm water and will add more drastic cuts. Planning for "warming rooms" for people to come and gather to get warm. Ask them about their 10 x electric bills. How would you handle a 10 x increase for your electricity bill?

"Out of President Trump's speech at the UN General Assembly on Tuesday, it probably won't be the script that will be remembered by diplomats but, rather, world leaders' laughter, caught on camera and shared in viral videos. ".

What did the Orange Man warn about? About the energy dependence on Russia. Who is laughing today?

Unfortunately the sheer hate for the guy has polarized so many, that to this day, they cannot see and even acknowledge some of these warnings, and some of the policies. Now, go back and look at what he warned regarding the US and the current leadership. I'm all for saving the planet, but understand that this means you and me won't be part of it in the green agenda. An electric car will only delay it, but that lithium will need a place to rest in 20 years.

[QUOTE=ChrisP;2720422]50 years ago communism encapsulated the whole of the USSR plus Eastern Europe, plus China (which actually was communist back then, with disastrous effect), plus much of south-east Asia and Africa. A great deal more than 10% of the world. You really are quite ignorant about history. May I suggest you educate yourself before attempting further comment.[/QUOTE]You think I need an education to divide 20 by 200?

Even being generous to you and granting that these countries were communist. China, North Korea, Vietnam, Laos, Mongolia?, Russia, Czecho, Poland, East Germ, Yugo, Albania, Hungary, Bulgaria, Romania, and Cuba. I've only got to 15 and I am already struggling.

I rather thin it's you that needs to go back to school. Learn some maths as well as manners.

[QUOTE=ChrisP;2720486]Alex Stein's recent viral video featuring Sandy "AOC" Cortes is hilarious and fitting for this forum. Got to admit, she may be the dumbest ***** in Washington but her ass did look good.

[URL]https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11012881/Moment-AOC-confronts-troll-harassing-Capitol-branding-favorite-big-booty-Latina.html[/URL]#comments.

The really telling thing about this is AOC's reaction. She had a meltdown, calling police and demanding the guy be arrested. Yes, that is the same AOC who just last week laughed at Justice Kavanaugh being forced out of a restaurant by a leftist mob gathering outside making threats, and said that "the point of protests is to make people uncomfortable".

But of course that doesn't apply to entitled little democrat bartender-princesses, who have an inflated sense of their importance and intelligence because guys always sat nodding through their woke globohomo communist horseshit because they were trying to get in their pants. If anyone makes them feel uncomfortable, they deserve to be jailed, or perhaps just shot on sight.

In a sane world, AOC and Kamala Harris would never have left their bars and we would be writing reports about them. Bring on the collapse and restoration.[/QUOTE]It is a very funny video and Sandy's reaction to it over Twitter was telling. First she lied about the encounter and then removed her tweet. She is a spoiled, woke, moron, but she remains an obnoxious & dangerous voice in the House until the Woke Marxist Democratic party takes a shellacking in the next 2 elections. Still, if I happen to bump into her one night at Scandallo in Sao Paulo, I will take her upstairs and cum in her mouth. KKK.

[QUOTE=Gino02;2720525]"Trump accused Germany of becoming 'totally dependent' on Russian energy at the UN. The German just smirked. " - Washington Post on September 25,2018.

([URL]https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2018/09/25/trump-accused-germany-becoming-totally-dependent-russian-energy-un-germans-just-smirked/[/URL]).

Whether you love the guy or hate the guy, Trump was right on so many topics. He was far from woke, so that didn't work well for him. Only four years later, ask the Germans today how they are going to heat their homes this Winter. They are currently rationing warm water and will add more drastic cuts. Planning for "warming rooms" for people to come and gather to get warm. Ask them about their 10 x electric bills. How would you handle a 10 x increase for your electricity bill?

"Out of President Trump's speech at the UN General Assembly on Tuesday, it probably won't be the script that will be remembered by diplomats but, rather, world leaders' laughter, caught on camera and shared in viral videos. ".

What did the Orange Man warn about? About the energy dependence on Russia. Who is laughing today?

Unfortunately the sheer hate for the guy has polarized so many, that to this day, they cannot see and even acknowledge some of these warnings, and some of the policies. Now, go back and look at what he warned regarding the US and the current leadership. I'm all for saving the planet, but understand that this means you and me won't be part of it in the green agenda. An electric car will only delay it, but that lithium will need a place to rest in 20 years.[/QUOTE]The Left's blind hatred of the man is amazing and unrelenting. It drives them into hyper-drive and act like the intolerant, fanatical, lunatics that they are. But the truth is we have a mentally retarded puppet front man in the White House who does not even know where he is when he wakes up in the morning and the real decisions governing the country are being made behind closed doors by a group of anonymous, Marxist bureaucrats. The result is that inflation is running at over 11%, the stock market is in bear market territory down 20%, energy costs are still astronomic, we are apparently in a recession with 2 quarters of negative GDP growth, rising interest rates and near full employment. There is a word for this economic situation: it is called STAGFLATION!

But wait, the best is yet to come. Inflation and a shrinking GDP will cause aggregate demand to decline and create a loss of revenue in many companies in all sectors of the economy which in turn will mean layoffs and rising unemployment. So what do the Woke Marxist Democratic party leaders want to do about this terrible situation we find ourselves in? They want to raise corporate taxes and print more money. It is unbelievable. But what can you expect from a group of people that refuse to admit that men cannot get pregnant?

And yet they want the American people to believe that Trump is the problem. Good luck with that wokies come November.

[QUOTE=JustTK;2720623]I rather thin it's you that needs to go back to school. Learn some maths as well as manners.[/QUOTE]Debating JustTK is like dueling a man that has no arms.

And no English language skills.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2720378]As I recall, over 4 years Trump got squat from Mexico to pay for replacing portions of already existing barriers (wall) after accusing them of only sending their rapists and murderers to the USA.

[B]Biden Gets Mexico To Pay $1.5 Billion[/B]

[URL]https://crooksandliars.com/2022/07/biden-gets-mexico-pay-15-billion[/URL]

Well, I guess fellow brilliant Repub diplomat Steve Bannon conned some money out of somebody with his Wall Fund scam. But I'm sure most if not all of those suckers were USA citizens, not Mexican citizens.[/QUOTE]Glad you guys (you and your Buyden) finally agreed with Trump and most Republicans that Walls work and Walls are needed at the US southern border. Good progress.

Now, unlike you and mostly spiteful horseshit libtards, I and most Republicans do give credit where and when it's due. I'm glad that after all the no shows in the summit in LOS Angeles few weeks ago, Mexican president finally showed up to Buyden's invite, and commits this $1. 5 billion for the Wall. Trump had put the seed, and Buyden at least didn't refuse to take that money. Hopefully Buyden will spend it on the actual building of that Wall instead of sending to Ukraine for laundering into Hunter's great addictions. But still Buyden does deserve credit for accepting that money, I agree.

[QUOTE=Gino02;2720525]"Trump accused Germany of becoming 'totally dependent' on Russian energy at the UN. The German just smirked. " - Washington Post on September 25,2018.

([URL]https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2018/09/25/trump-accused-germany-becoming-totally-dependent-russian-energy-un-germans-just-smirked/[/URL]).

Whether you love the guy or hate the guy, Trump was right on so many topics. He was far from woke, so that didn't work well for him. Only four years later, ask the Germans today how they are going to heat their homes this Winter. They are currently rationing warm water and will add more drastic cuts. Planning for "warming rooms" for people to come and gather to get warm. Ask them about their 10 x electric bills. How would you handle a 10 x increase for your electricity bill?

"Out of President Trump's speech at the UN General Assembly on Tuesday, it probably won't be the script that will be remembered by diplomats but, rather, world leaders' laughter, caught on camera and shared in viral videos. ".

What did the Orange Man warn about? About the energy dependence on Russia. Who is laughing today?

Unfortunately the sheer hate for the guy has polarized so many, that to this day, they cannot see and even acknowledge some of these warnings, and some of the policies. Now, go back and look at what he warned regarding the US and the current leadership. I'm all for saving the planet, but understand that this means you and me won't be part of it in the green agenda. An electric car will only delay it, but that lithium will need a place to rest in 20 years.[/QUOTE]Excellent post. Yet another example of Trump being proven right, and the smug smirks wiped off shitlib faces by harsh reality.

Amazing to remember how good things were just 3 short years ago. Economy booming, gas prices under $2, no new wars, Russia and Afghanistan under control, finally pushing back against China's economic abuses, illegals being stopped. All that and much more ruined so quickly by the Washington swamp / fake media.

[QUOTE=JustTK;2720623]You think I need an education to divide 20 by 200?

Even being generous to you and granting that these countries were communist. China, North Korea, Vietnam, Laos, Mongolia?, Russia, Czecho, Poland, East Germ, Yugo, Albania, Hungary, Bulgaria, Romania, and Cuba. I've only got to 15 and I am already struggling.

I rather thin it's you that needs to go back to school. Learn some maths as well as manners.[/QUOTE]You said "90% of the world" were against the communists. Are you capable of grasping the concept that not all countries are the same size?

You incorrectly list "Russia", when in fact it was the USSR, which encapsulated Russia, Belarus, Ukraine, Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, Georgia, Moldova, Armenia, Azerbaijan, Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, Turkmenistan, Tajikistan, and Kyrgyzstan.

Add to that China, North Korea, and the Eastern European and African countries under communism, and you have significantly more than 10% of the world both in population and geographic area. Around half. And yet it completely failed because, like you, it was full of shit.

Kindly educate yourself before commenting further.

[QUOTE=ScatManDoo;2720662]Debating JustTK is like dueling a man that has no arms.

And no English language skills.[/QUOTE]JustTK is the debate equivalent to the black knight from Monty Python.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmInkxbvlCs[/URL]

[QUOTE=ScatManDoo;2720470]
I am still laughing to myself about the post JustTK made were he blamed FDR's economic policies for causing a post WW2 recession.[/QUOTE]I think your memory is failing you. You critisice me for a mistake that made no difference to the point I was making. And then you bring it up again to try to ridicule me yet you get it all completely wrong. UFM. Keep taking your meds.

[QUOTE=ScatManDoo;2720662]Debating JustTK is like dueling a man that has no arms.

And no English language skills.[/QUOTE]How do you know when its not worth debating someone? When the best they can come up with is to criticise your gammar or spelling (on a social media forum!) . And yet they make grammatical mistakes in the very post where they criticise you! You cannot make this stuff up.

[QUOTE=Gino02;2720525]"Trump accused Germany of becoming 'totally dependent' on Russian energy at the UN. The German just smirked. " - Washington Post on September 25,2018.

([URL]https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2018/09/25/trump-accused-germany-becoming-totally-dependent-russian-energy-un-germans-just-smirked/[/URL]).

Whether you love the guy or hate the guy, Trump was right on so many topics. He was far from woke, so that didn't work well for him. Only four years later, ask the Germans today how they are going to heat their homes this Winter. They are currently rationing warm water and will add more drastic cuts. Planning for "warming rooms" for people to come and gather to get warm. Ask them about their 10 x electric bills. How would you handle a 10 x increase for your electricity bill?

"Out of President Trump's speech at the UN General Assembly on Tuesday, it probably won't be the script that will be remembered by diplomats but, rather, world leaders' laughter, caught on camera and shared in viral videos. ".

What did the Orange Man warn about? About the energy dependence on Russia. Who is laughing today?

Unfortunately the sheer hate for the guy has polarized so many, that to this day, they cannot see and even acknowledge some of these warnings, and some of the policies. Now, go back and look at what he warned regarding the US and the current leadership. I'm all for saving the planet, but understand that this means you and me won't be part of it in the green agenda. An electric car will only delay it, but that lithium will need a place to rest in 20 years.[/QUOTE]In other news, a broken watch is right twice per day. Who knew?

[QUOTE=JustTK;2720706]How do you know when its not worth debating someone? When the best they can come up with is to criticise your gammar or spelling (on a social media forum!) . And yet they make grammatical mistakes in the very post where they criticise you! You cannot make this stuff up.[/QUOTE]JustTK.

Tell us more of how you determined that FDR's economic policies caused a post WW2 recession.

[QUOTE=JustTK;2720706]How do you know when its not worth debating someone? [/QUOTE]JustNoBrains.

Is that what you thought I was saying?

Not that you were being outclassed in the debates we have?

[QUOTE=Gino02;2720679]Glad you guys (you and your Buyden) finally agreed with Trump and most Republicans that Walls work and Walls are needed at the US southern border. Good progress.

Now, unlike you and mostly spiteful horseshit libtards, I and most Republicans do give credit where and when it's due. I'm glad that after all the no shows in the summit in LOS Angeles few weeks ago, Mexican president finally showed up to Buyden's invite, and commits this $1. 5 billion for the Wall. Trump had put the seed, and Buyden at least didn't refuse to take that money. Hopefully Buyden will spend it on the actual building of that Wall instead of sending to Ukraine for laundering into Hunter's great addictions. But still Buyden does deserve credit for accepting that money, I agree.[/QUOTE]You're lying again.

Actually, not much of the money Biden got out of Mexico is for building walls. It is for much more proven effective border control methods than that.

Trump was handed a decades long low in illegal border crossings from the Obama-Biden Administration, which he immediately turned into a huge surge in illegal crossings.

Then in 2020, years into his Wall Scam, a new surge in illegal border crossings began for a second time in just 4 years on his watch. He put the cherry on top of his worst border control policies of all time by nearly decimating the entire USA immigration system on his way out as another example of the worst Repub to Dem handoff in a consistent pattern of godawful Repub to Dem handoffs.

[QUOTE=ChrisP;2720690]Excellent post. Yet another example of Trump being proven right, and the smug smirks wiped off shitlib faces by harsh reality.

Amazing to remember how good things were just 3 short years ago. Economy booming, gas prices under $2, no new wars, Russia and Afghanistan under control, finally pushing back against China's economic abuses, illegals being stopped. All that and much more ruined so quickly by the Washington swamp / fake media.[/QUOTE]Yes, I agree that it is amazing how much better off America and the rest of the world would be today if only Trump had resigned in mid December 2017, the peak of his success as a so-called potus since by then he hadn't done anything but coast on the positive Obama-Biden trajectories he inherited. Just 4 1/2 years ago. Of course, he would have had to take Pence with him and handed the job over to a Dem. Just about any Dem.

Unfortunately, in late December 2017 he actually signed and passed that godawful waste of $2. 5+ Trillion economic "stimulus" bill that produced not one percent better GDP growth than prior to it and actually produced a million fewer jobs with it than without it.

Followed in 2018 by a series of the worst economic, domestic and foreign policy decisions of all time that, by early 2020, were already beginning to wipe out millions upon millions of USA jobs and businesses, destroy global supply-chains, mass murder millions of people around the world, cripple international travel perhaps forever, requiring massive government intervention and deficit spending, triggering worldwide hyper-inflation.

And as a bonus, Trump was simultaneously totally surrendering to the Taliban in Afghanistan, reinvigorating Iran's nuclear ambitions, providing tireless support to Vladimir Putin in weakening and dismantling Western Democratic Alliances with the capper being to dutifully attempt a violent overthrow of American Democracy at home.

That's quite a final record of results. All Trump supporters and Repubs must be proud of what they accomplished with that one.

[QUOTE=ScatManDoo;2720776]
Tell us more of how you determined that FDR's economic policies caused a post WW2 recession.[/QUOTE]Outclassed? Haha. By someone that can't even remember the criticism they had a coupla weeks ago?

[QUOTE=ChrisP;2720694]You said "90% of the world" were against the communists. Are you capable of grasping the concept that not all countries are the same size?

You incorrectly list "Russia", when in fact it was the USSR,

Kindly educate yourself before commenting further.[/QUOTE]Yes, I did. I wrote Russia, when what I meant was USSR. So let's list USSR - 1 country, so that it is consistent with the 50 states of USA as 1 country, and all the states of Canada, and all the states of other capitalist-pig nations. 10% max, still.

Why is a share of the world countries less valid than geogrphical size? Why does land mass matter? Is Canada more important than USA? Is Greenland one of the most significant countries? Your criticism is frankly pathetic.

At least you showed some manners. Now, back to school with you!

[QUOTE=PVMonger;2720711]In other news, a broken watch is right twice per day. Who knew?[/QUOTE]Trump literally called it exactly right, while the dumb woke Germans were sitting giggling to themselves like brainless children who think the economy is powered by transgender unicorn farts. Now their country is about to freeze this winter.

PissVomitMonger has Trump Derangement Syndrome, so you'd think he would quietly sit this one out and accept the L. But no, his typical leftist arrogance and entitlement knows no bounds, so he has to somehow try (and miserably fail) to downplay Trump's extraordinary 5 D chess prescience.

Sit down, son.

[QUOTE=ChrisP;2720420]The "sanctions" have boosted Russia's economy, by increasing the price of the oil, gas, fertilizer and food that it exports to India, China, and elsewhere in the world. That is why the rouble is trading at a 5 year high against the dollar. The people whom the sanctions are hurting are the American and European people, who have seen skyrocketing fuel costs (on top of already vast inflation from the covid hysteria and green bullshit) and in Europe are now actually rationing energy. Great job, Washington swamp.[/QUOTE]Amazing! As nauseating as it is, I force myself to watch Russian little Goebbelses like Soloviev or Simonyan. What Chris P and other right-wingers do basically, is repeat all the talking points of the Russian propaganda, often verbatim, sometimes rephrased, but always in line what their propagandists want Americans and Europeans to believe. Although, maybe, maybe they're taking it indirectly from the likes of Tucker, who, I'm sure, has a direct line.

No, sanctions have not boosted Russia's economy, you idiots. And yes, it's true they haven't collapsed their economy just yet, but it's only been 4 months. There are over 10,000 individual sanctions imposed by the world's most powerful countries, and they are working just fine.

No one can wage a war against the whole world and win - if the world doesn't cave in.

Yes, China and India do buy oil and gas from Russia, but with up to 30% discount.

Yes, the ruble is high, but for all the wrong reasons: a) ordinary Russians are not allowed to buy hard currency, and b) because Russia as a country can't buy almost anything from the world. They have a lot of dollars and euros they can't use. And their "strong" ruble is causing their economy magnitudes of problems.

But sure, keep getting your lines from the Russians or Tucker. I'm sure they're totally objective about it.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2720389]

Setting up fall guys and dodging criminal prosecution is his only true expertise. His cons are as bad and obvious as those Nigerian Prince emails. But, like those, the key is to throw out a wide net and he's bound to snag some paying suckers. Even millions of them.

That said, I fully agree he should be indicted and tried. Even though the chances are great that at least one Trump-adoring hillbilly will wind up on the jury. America can not afford to let so-called potuses like Trump skate. And it is important for the evidence to be heard and put on the record wherever possible.[/QUOTE]Well said!

[QUOTE=JustTK;2720846]Outclassed? Haha. By someone that can't even remember the criticism they had a coupla weeks ago?[/QUOTE]I remember numerous errors you made in your political posts.

Here's one.

I boldened the funniest paragraph.

[QUOTE=JustTK;2708348]Yes, I didn't look so closely at those bcos I assumed they would be correlated and, well, I have a life. Hehe. Historically those are the factors that the Dems used to run on and target. Historically the Reps use supply side economics that favour business, so you would expect the Dems to do better on the factors that they target.

Let's look a little at a different measure. GDP - check out this report - [URL]https://www.thebalance.com/democrats-vs-republicans-which-is-better-for-the-economy-4771839[/URL].

[B]Obviously FDR is the clear winner bcos he was pres during the economic vacuum post WW2. But what happened to his successor HST? Terrible performance. Obama also did terrible.[/B]

So on this, I would say its a close race.

If you look at real wages. Both have failed.

But as I said in my other comments, these are economic factors that without doubt you value highly. That's your choice. I prefer to value foreign policy and related issues. On these factors both parties fail miserably.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ChrisP;2720850]Trump literally called it exactly right, while the dumb woke Germans were sitting giggling to themselves like brainless children who think the economy is powered by transgender unicorn farts. Now their country is about to freeze this winter.

PissVomitMonger has Trump Derangement Syndrome, so you'd think he would quietly sit this one out and accept the L. But no, his typical leftist arrogance and entitlement knows no bounds, so he has to somehow try (and miserably fail) to downplay Trump's extraordinary 5 D chess prescience.

Sit down, son.[/QUOTE]M.

Correct, but Trump's problem is he can not get along with anyone. He needs to retire and keep fundraising. He can leave a winner!!

If he runs again it could be a problem.

[QUOTE=ScatManDoo;2720964]I remember numerous errors you made in your political posts.

Here's one.

I boldened the funniest paragraph. "Obviously FDR is the clear winner bcos he was pres during the economic vacuum post WW2. But what happened to his successor HST? Terrible performance. Obama also did terrible". [/QUOTE]Right. Everyone here makes mistakes in posts... Or perhaps YOU don't??? So how does that translate in to "FDR's economic policies caused a post WW2 recession. "? UFM.

As I said, it makes no difference to the point I was making, simply change the would "post" to "during".

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2720826]Yes, I agree that it is amazing how much better off America and the rest of the world would be today if only Trump had resigned in mid December 2017, the peak of his success as a so-called potus since by then he hadn't done anything but coast on the positive Obama-Biden trajectories he inherited. Just 4 1/2 years ago. Of course, he would have had to take Pence with him and handed the job over to a Dem. Just about any Dem.

Unfortunately, in late December 2017 he actually signed and passed that godawful waste of $2. 5+ Trillion economic "stimulus" bill that produced not one percent better GDP growth than prior to it and actually produced a million fewer jobs with it than without it.

Followed in 2018 by a series of the worst economic, domestic and foreign policy decisions of all time that, by early 2020, were already beginning to wipe out millions upon millions of USA jobs and businesses, destroy global supply-chains, mass murder millions of people around the world, cripple international travel perhaps forever, requiring massive government intervention and deficit spending, triggering worldwide hyper-inflation.

And as a bonus, Trump was simultaneously totally surrendering to the Taliban in Afghanistan, reinvigorating Iran's nuclear ambitions, providing tireless support to Vladimir Putin in weakening and dismantling Western Democratic Alliances with the capper being to dutifully attempt a violent overthrow of American Democracy at home..[/QUOTE]This guy, man! Stop! My ribs can't take it! Don't say it, don't say it. "Jimmy Carter was the greatest president in history" Hahahaha! Oh man, thanks for the ab workout!

[QUOTE=JustTK;2720987]Right. Everyone here makes mistakes in posts... Or perhaps YOU don't??? So how does that translate in to "FDR's economic policies caused a post WW2 recession. "? UFM.

As I said, it makes no difference to the point I was making, simply change the would "post" to "during".[/QUOTE]I'll stand by my summary of what you said.

Now that your actual "choice" words were quoted by me.

All of your writings, all of your post, all seem to at least one word fucked up in them, haha.

[QUOTE=ScatManDoo;2721023]All of your writings, all of your post, all seem to at least one word fucked up in them, haha.[/QUOTE]Haha. You make me laugh. Your like a man with a stuuter, accusing of and laughing at someone else with a stutter. Just look at what you wrote! Haha. Classic.

Man, ur so full of scat, doodoo.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2720864]
No, sanctions have not boosted Russia's economy, you idiots. And yes, it's true they haven't collapsed their economy just yet, but it's only been 4 months. There are over 10,000 individual sanctions imposed by the world's most powerful countries, and they are working just fine.[/QUOTE]Cope and seethe, Globohomo.

The sanctions were designed to crash the ruble, crash the Russian economy, force Russia to withdraw from Ukraine and cause an internal coup against Putin within weeks. Instead, the ruble has appreciated, Russia has just taken the entire Donbass, and Putin's approval ratings among his people are at an all-time high. But watch the fake news zombies tell us that means it's working. LOL. Xpartan is vying with Eihtooms for the title of ISG King of Comedy.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2720864]No one can wage a war against the whole world and win - if the world doesn't cave in.[/QUOTE]Russia is not waging a war "against the whole world". The majority of the world is trading with Russia perfectly normally. It is only north America and Europe which is not, and the sanctions have backfired so spectacularly that Germany among others are begging for them to be eased before their population freezes this winter.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2720864]Yes, China and India do buy oil and gas from Russia, but with up to 30% discount.

Yes, the ruble is high, but for all the wrong reasons: a) ordinary Russians are not allowed to buy hard currency, and b) because Russia as a country can't buy almost anything from the world. They have a lot of dollars and euros they can't use. And their "strong" ruble is causing their economy magnitudes of problems.
[/QUOTE]Yes, the rest of the world is buying Russian oil and gas at a discount, but the Washington swamp's moronic actions have caused the price to rise so much that even with the discount, Russia is making more than it did before the war.

As for your foolish statement that "Russia can't buy almost anything from the world", er, Hello,? Have you been asleep the last 30 years? Everything is made in China, whose relationship with Russia is now stronger than ever.

The only things that the US used to export to Russia are shit that it's better off without, like McDonalds, Facebook Netflix and of course the Jewish banking system. Everything that people actually need, from energy to food and fertilizer to raw materials to manufactured goods can all be sourced outside the West.

In fact, these sanctions are backfiring in an even bigger and more profound way in that they are making vast swathes of the world realize that a) they can't trust, and b) they don't need the West. Some of Russia's foreign currency reserves were stolen by the Jewish banking system despite the fact that they were supposed to be held in a place of sacrosanct neutrality. You better believe that China and others have noticed.

And now Saudi Arabia and Turkey have applied to join the BRICS group (Brazil, Russia, India, China, South Africa). Between them, those seven countries produce everything necessary to run a thriving economy. The West needs them more than they need us, thanks to our suicidal green horseshit shutting down energy production, and greed sending all our manufacturing abroad.

The Washington swamp's idiocy will cost it dear in the short and long term. Which is a good thing. As it weakens, loses power and ultimately falls, we will be able to take back our country.

[QUOTE=JustTK;2720849]Yes, I did. I wrote Russia, when what I meant was USSR. So let's list USSR - 1 country, so that it is consistent with the 50 states of USA as 1 country, and all the states of Canada, and all the states of other capitalist-pig nations. 10% max, still.

Why is a share of the world countries less valid than geographical size? Why does land mass matter? Is Canada more important than USA? Is Greenland one of the most significant countries? Your criticism is frankly pathetic.

At least you showed some manners. Now, back to school with you![/QUOTE]Were you in the special class at school? Did they make you wear the padded helmet? I could write an accurate assessment of your intellect, but it would just be {Deleted by Admin}.

I've already demonstrated that about half the world in terms of area and population was communist. Far more than your foolish and ignorant claim of 10%. If you think that two tiny capitalist countries are "more" than the USSR, then I guess it proves what everyone says about you.

Onward, black knight!

[QUOTE=ChrisP;2720992]This guy, man! Stop! My ribs can't take it! Don't say it, don't say it. "Jimmy Carter was the greatest president in history" Hahahaha! Oh man, thanks for the ab workout![/QUOTE]Not that I'm not accustomed to American Ultras enjoying Trump's attempts at destroying democracy and our way of life, but I'll admit it's still hard to fathom sometimes. They feel like a completely different type of biological species.

[QUOTE=ChrisP;2720850]Trump literally called it exactly right, while the dumb woke Germans were sitting giggling to themselves like brainless children who think the economy is powered by transgender unicorn farts. Now their country is about to freeze this winter.

PissVomitMonger has Trump Derangement Syndrome, so you'd think he would quietly sit this one out and accept the L. But no, his typical leftist arrogance and entitlement knows no bounds, so he has to somehow try (and miserably fail) to downplay Trump's extraordinary 5 D chess prescience.

Sit down, son.[/QUOTE]A broken watch is correct twice per day. You are correct less than that.

Donnie the Dumbass playing 5 D chess? He didn't have enough IQ points to decorate a domino. Neither do you.

[QUOTE=PVMonger;2720711]In other news, a broken watch is right twice per day. Who knew?[/QUOTE]Even if we let this comparison of "foreseeing issues in strategy mistakes" with a "broken watch", which on its own is completely meaningless, stick for the sake of debating, libtards didn't even realize what's coming that even a broken watch can correctly tell. From this, we infer that libtards are even worse (in foreseeing results of any strategy) then a broken watch. Agree?

This clip shows how screwed the USA political system is:

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6IYX8ydZ9pA[/URL]

[QUOTE=JustTK;2721128]This clip shows how screwed the USA political system is:

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6IYX8ydZ9pA[/URL][/QUOTE]Parts are probably more dangerous then Ukraine. Crime is out of control, especially in large cities, governed by Demo. We can all agree on this, but defunding the police was one of the most stupid things ever done.

[QUOTE=DramaFree11;2721145]Parts are probably more dangerous then Ukraine. Crime is out of control, especially in large cities, governed by Demo. We can all agree on this, but defunding the police was one of the most stupid things ever done.[/QUOTE]Amazing. Just like the typical Republican troll in this forum, everything in your post is entirely wrong. Despite initial calls for defunding police departments in 2020 (after repeated reports of police brutality in response to peaceful protests), departments were not "defunded" or if they were the slight decreases in department spending were restored in 2021. [URL]https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna9864[/URL].

Moreover, murder rates are higher in Republican controlled states that Democratic led states. [URL]https://news.yahoo.com/republican-controlled-states-have-higher-murder-rates-than-democratic-ones-study-212137750.html.[/URL] While overall crime is higher in Democratic states, that's because the population in Democratic states is far higher than Republican states.

[QUOTE=PVMonger;2721081]A broken watch is correct twice per day. You are correct less than that.

Donnie the Dumbass playing 5 D chess? He didn't have enough IQ points to decorate a domino. Neither do you.[/QUOTE]Weak, lame, unfunny cope.

Just admit and accept that Trump was absolutely correct that German reliance on Russian energy would be a problem. The rest of the forum would respect you more if you put on your big boy pants, take the L like a man, and move on. But you're not a man, you're a childish, entitled leftist who believes in the power of unicorn farts, so you won't.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2721080]Not that I'm not accustomed to American Ultras enjoying Trump's attempts at destroying democracy and our way of life, but I'll admit it's still hard to fathom sometimes. They feel like a completely different type of biological species.[/QUOTE]Does anyone have a contact at Netflix? We got to get this guy a comedy special. He would outsell Chappelle!

[QUOTE=Gino02;2721111]Even if we let this comparison of "foreseeing issues in strategy mistakes" with a "broken watch", which on its own is completely meaningless, stick for the sake of debating, libtards didn't even realize what's coming that even a broken watch can correctly tell. From this, we infer that libtards are even worse (in foreseeing results of any strategy) then a broken watch. Agree?[/QUOTE]Grammar correction for Libtards who will point it out when they lose in a debate:

From this, we infer that libtards are even worse (in foreseeing results of any strategy) than* a broken watch.

Biden fails to secure oil and regional security commitments at Arab summit ([URL]https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/biden-fails-to-secure-oil-and-regional-security-commitments-at-arab-summit/ar-AAZG3R0[/URL]).

Who's surprised? Ok, let the Libtards start defending these failures with lame excuses and blaming Trump, Republicans or anyone else. Or even more ridiculous, calling these successes? LOL.

[QUOTE=ChrisP;2720992]This guy, man! Stop! My ribs can't take it! Don't say it, don't say it. "Jimmy Carter was the greatest president in history" Hahahaha! Oh man, thanks for the ab workout![/QUOTE]Jimmy Carter was a competent POTUS who produced better results on the most important factors than any Repub so-called potus.

While we all wish accomplishing that meant he must have been "The Greatest President in History", the fact is beating Repub so-called potuses on those factors is perhaps the lowest bar to surmount in American history.

So Carter was a pretty good Dem POTUS.

Had he been a Repub his record of results would surely place him as "The Greatest Repub POTUS of All Time. ".

But among Dems? Just a better than average one.

[QUOTE=DramaFree11;2721145]Parts are probably more dangerous then Ukraine. Crime is out of control, especially in large cities, governed by Demo. We can all agree on this, but defunding the police was one of the most stupid things ever done.[/QUOTE]Me thinks you didn't eatch the video clip.

[QUOTE=ChrisP;2721078]Were you in the special class at school? Did they make you wear the padded helmet? I could write an accurate assessment of your intellect, but it would just be {Deleted by Admin}.

I've already demonstrated that about half the world in terms of area and population was communist. Far more than your foolish and ignorant claim of 10%. If you think that two tiny capitalist countries are "more" than the USSR, then I guess it proves what everyone says about you.

Onward, black knight![/QUOTE]Saying something is true does not make it true. Case in point is this: "about half the world in terms of area and population was communist. " You provided no sources for your contention. Like Donnie the Dumbass, you made it up out of whole cloth without a shred of proof.

As usual, your contention is bogus as backed up by [URL]https://www.infoplease.com/world/population/area-and-population-countries[/URL] and [URL]https://www.infoplease.com/world/diplomacy/communist-countries-past-and-present[/URL].

I have done the math. Unfortunately I forgot to save my post and my computer froze while I attempted to post the results. But go ahead and do the math if you are able. All of the data is in these two sources above.

Here's what I remember from my post and you are 0 for 3.

1. 46 countries (if you count all of the satellite Soviets in the old USSR) are or have been communist. Since there are approximately 200 countries in the world, that means that about 25% are or were communist. Nowhere near half.

2. The 46 countries mentioned above have a population of about 2 billion. There were about 7. 6 billion people worldwide in 2017 when the info please figures were updated. I learned in 3rd grade that 2/7. 6 is more like 26% and not anywhere near 50%.

3. The 46 countries mentioned above have a land area that is about 10% of the worldwide land area.

But that's OK, Chrissie. Everybody knows that if you believe the 2020 election was stolen you will believe anything. You'll even believe that 26% is close to "half". I guess it is if you round upwards to the nearest fifty percent.

What was it that you said, Chrissie, in your original post? That you were full of it? Yes, you are.

[QUOTE=ChrisP;2721189]Does anyone have a contact at Netflix? We got to get this guy a comedy special. He would outsell Chappelle![/QUOTE]Why? FUX "NewZ" and prominent Republicans all said that the Mango Mussolini's rantings about a stolen election are all hot air. [URL]https://www.foxnews.com/politics/prominent-conservatives-election-lost-not-stolen[/URL] and [URL]https://drive.google.com/file/d/1aqorZ61AYFqZU-EDQBBzjqfvAoC5nKcB/view[/URL].

The only people who should be on Netflix and members of the moron brigade.

[QUOTE=ChrisP;2721189]Does anyone have a contact at Netflix? We got to get this guy a comedy special. He would outsell Chappelle![/QUOTE]Instead of laughing hysterically like a loon in response to those of us who prove you wrong time and time again, why not try to get a grip on yourself, calm down and see if you can think of something you have ever posted that was supported by the facts.

That would be a help to all of us.

[QUOTE=Jay0940;2721183]Amazing. Just like the typical Republican troll in this forum, everything in your post is entirely wrong. Despite initial calls for defunding police departments in 2020 (after repeated reports of police brutality in response to peaceful protests), departments were not "defunded" or if they were the slight decreases in department spending were restored in 2021. [URL]https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna9864[/URL].

Moreover, murder rates are higher in Republican controlled states that Democratic led states. [URL]https://news.yahoo.com/republican-controlled-states-have-higher-murder-rates-than-democratic-ones-study-212137750.html.[/URL] While overall crime is higher in Democratic states, that's because the population in Democratic states is far higher than Republican states.[/QUOTE]Moreover, the only group in the Federal Government that seriously "Defunded the Police" was the Republican Party in the House of Representatives.

Unanimously.

[B]'Republicans are defunding the police: Fox News anchor stumps congressman[/B]

[URL]https://www.theguardian.com/media/2021/jun/28/chris-wallace-republicans-defunding-the-police-fox-news-congressman-jim-banks[/URL]

Being a "Conservative Republican" is obviously a mental disorder.

I have been absent from this forum for a while as I made a bet with a couple others on this forum if we stayed off the forum for over a month that the same fools would still be supporting Biden failures. No surprise that I was right.

New CNBC poll today: [URL]https://www.cnbc.com/2022/07/18/bidens-economic-approval-rating-falls-to-new-low-on-fear-about-inflation-cnbc-survey-finds.html[/URL].

No surprise.

All-America Economic Survey.

Biden's economic approval rating falls to new low on fear about inflation, CNBC survey finds.

Published Mon, Jul 18 20227:01 AM EDT Updated 2 Hours Ago.

All-America Economic Survey.

Biden's economic approval rating falls to new low on fear about inflation, CNBC survey finds.

Published Mon, Jul 18 20227:01 AM EDT Updated 2 Hours Ago.

President Joe Biden's overall and economic approval numbers dipped to the lowest levels of his presidency, according to CNBC's All-America Survey.

His economic approval rating dropped 5 points from April's survey to 30%, lower than the nadirs for President Donald Trump and President Barack Obama.

President Joe Biden's overall and economic approval numbers have reached the lowest levels of his presidency and fallen further than that of either of his two predecessors, according to the latest CNBC All-America Economic Survey.

With Americans feeling crushed beneath the weight of rising prices, Biden's economic approval dropped 5 points from the prior survey in April to just 30%. The president's economic record is supported by just 6% of Republicans, 25% of independents and 58% of Democrats, a very low number for his own party.

In comparison, President Donald Trump's economic approval bottomed out at 41%, and President Barack Obama's at 37%.

Biden's approval on his overall handling of the presidency came in at 36%, 1 point lower than Trump's worst rating. Among survey participants, 57% disapprove of Biden's handling of the presidency.

Only 58% of democrats support Biden economic policies. I am surprised that the number of smart democrats is this high. I have yet to see a smart democrat on this forum other than Cali Guy.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2721349]Moreover, the only group in the Federal Government that seriously "Defunded the Police" was the Republican Party in the House of Representatives.

Unanimously.

[B]'Republicans are defunding the police: Fox News anchor stumps congressman[/B]

[URL]https://www.theguardian.com/media/2021/jun/28/chris-wallace-republicans-defunding-the-police-fox-news-congressman-jim-banks[/URL]

Being a "Conservative Republican" is obviously a mental disorder.[/QUOTE]Yes the die hard Republican states: California, Oregon, New York, Washington all run by Republican governors and Republican senators have defunded the police and crime is up 100%. Really? You really believe Republicans in California are defunding the police and are to blame? Do you really believe even one other democrat believes this? Do you really believe there are any dumb people on this forum that would actually agree with you? Democrat lies are why these states are riddled with crime. Democrats taking no responsibility and blaming others. Really working out well for Biden.

[QUOTE=Gino02;2721215]Biden fails to secure oil and regional security commitments at Arab summit ([URL]https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/biden-fails-to-secure-oil-and-regional-security-commitments-at-arab-summit/ar-AAZG3R0[/URL]).

Who's surprised? Ok, let the Libtards start defending these failures with lame excuses and blaming Trump, Republicans or anyone else. Or even more ridiculous, calling these successes? LOL.[/QUOTE]No One is surprised. Biden is a laughing stock in Saudi. Once again Biden made an overseas trip and was an embarrassment to the USA. Demonstrating weakness by a president does not bode well for Americans. Biden begging the Saudi prince for more oil does not bode well for Americans either. Putin is meeting with Iran and Turkey leaders this week and Biden is still trying to do a deal with Iran to help the terrorist nation get stronger. To help Russia too. Biden has taken less than 2 years to overtake Carter as the dumbest and worst president ever. We know it. 95% of democrats know it but only 42% of democrats admit it. Saudi knows it. The world knows it.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2721349]Moreover, the only group in the Federal Government that seriously "Defunded the Police" was the Republican Party in the House of Representatives.

Being a "Conservative Republican" is obviously a mental disorder.[/QUOTE]We need to take a poll on what is most delusional: Carter being a good president, Republicans defunding the police, or your making money in this stock market investing with.

Biden.

Shit, I could sell you ice in Alaska just by saying it is for the cause of Democrats.

[QUOTE=Gino02;2721111]Even if we let this comparison of "foreseeing issues in strategy mistakes" with a "broken watch", which on its own is completely meaningless, stick for the sake of debating, libtards didn't even realize what's coming that even a broken watch can correctly tell. From this, we infer that libtards are even worse (in foreseeing results of any strategy) then a broken watch. Agree?[/QUOTE][blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue]

Donnie the Dumbass said that Germany imported too much Russian gas from Russia. Here's what we know:

World Jul 11,2018 3:29 PM EDT.

BRUSSELS — President Donald Trump wasted no time in escalating his verbal attacks on Germany in the opening leg of his European tour. Seated across from NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg at breakfast Wednesday morning ahead of the alliance's meeting, Trump expanded his criticism beyond how little – in his view – Europe's most powerful economy spends on defense to target where they buy their energy.

"Germany is totally controlled by Russia," he said. "They will be getting between 60 and 70 percent of their energy from Russia and a new pipeline. ".

But those numbers aren't correct. Here's what we know about the pipeline and the broader fight over natural gas exports.

Trump was referring to the Nord Stream 2 Pipeline that is being built under the Baltic Sea between Russia and Germany. Gazprom, Russia's natural gas producer, is building it alongside an existing pipeline of the same name. Several European energy companies, including Royal Dutch Shell and France's Engie, are providing billions in funding.

But Trump's assertion that the pipeline will provide 60 to 70 percent of Germany's energy is incorrect. While Russia will be able to increase the amount of natural gas it sells to Germany through the pipeline, Russian gas will only provide a sliver of the overall energy Germany needs. Germany's energy comes from a diverse mix of oil, coal and renewables. Less than one fifth of the country's power is powered by natural gas; at the moment, just 9 percent of the country's power is generated by Russian gas.

That said, when Nord Stream 2 is completed, it will increase the amount of natural gas Germany gets from Russia. It will also allow Russia to send more of its gas to Germany and its European customers through Germany, therefore bypassing Ukraine, with which Russia is engaged in conflict. Ukraine has long argued Russia wants to both deprive it of badly needed income that it collects for the transit of Russian gas to the rest of Europe and also increase the continent's dependence on Russian energy.

Trump complained Germany is "making Russia richer. " When the NATO secretary general told Trump trade was a separate matter, Trump fired back. "How can you be together when a country is getting its energy from the person you want protection against or from the group that you want protection against?" he asked. "I think it is a very bad thing for NATO and I don't think it should have happened and I think we have to talk to Germany about it. " From Trump's perspective, trading with adversaries is bad business.

It's not just the Germans who are in the words of Trump "paying the Russians billions. " Along with gas from Norway, Algeria and Qatar, Europe gets more than a third of its gas from Russia. Tens of thousands of American homes burned Russian natural gas this winter. The gas itself was produced and liquefied by a joint venture between the French energy company Total and Novatek, a company which has been subjected to USA Financial sanctions.

The Europeans have long been concerned about an over-dependence on Russian energy and moved to diversify their sources of supply. And Trump is not the only critic of the Nord Stream 2 Pipeline. At a meeting earlier this week with Ukraine's President Petro Poroshenko, European Council President Donald Tusk said "Nord Stream 2 is a mistake and will not best serve European interests. It is against our strategic interests, our security, and also our rules. ".

It's important to point out that German Chancellor Angela Merkel has herself called for the construction of terminals that would enable Germany to take in liquefied natural gas from other countries, including the United States. And, this March, standing alongside Poroshenko, she acknowledged the politics surrounding Nord Stream 2 and that Germany would demand Russia outline how it plans to use the existing pipelines in Ukraine after Nord Stream 2's completion. Prior to that, she had maintained the Nord Stream 2 pipeline was a purely "economical project. ".

President Donald Trump meets with German Chancellor Angela Merkel during the NATO summit in Brussels, Belgium on July 11. Photo by Kevin Lamarque / ReutersPresident Donald Trump meets with German Chancellor Angela Merkel during the NATO summit in Brussels, Belgium on July 11. Photo by Kevin Lamarque / Reuters.

What Trump didn't say Wednesday is where he thinks Germany should get its gas. But he has made his stance on the issue known, to Germany and other world leaders. On the world stage, Trump has become the USA Natural gas industry's salesman-in-chief, telling a steady stream of foreign leaders from Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi to South Korean President Moon Jae-in that they should buy their gas from the USA Last year, on a visit to Poland, Trump vowed to raise USA Natural gas exports to Europe.

USA Energy producers would love to export natural gas to Europe. The USA Is awash in gas. The so-called "shale revolution" — the combination of American innovation and technology that has enabled producers to get at previously inaccessible oil and gas — has transformed the USA From a country unable to cover its own energy needs to one that on occasion can even export.

Until recently, USA Energy exports were largely of oil. But the emergence and spread of technology and infrastructure that allow companies to cool gas into a liquid, put it on a ship, and turn it back into gas when it reaches its port of call means the USA Can now export its gas, too.

The upside for American companies: There's so much natural gas in the USA, it's cheap. The problem: It's not so cheap by the time it's gone through all those other steps and moved across the Atlantic.

The upside for American companies: There's so much natural gas in the USA, it's cheap. The problem: It's not so cheap by the time it's gone through all those other steps and moved across the Atlantic. The most promising market for USA Liquified natural gas exports is actually Asia and more specifically, China, a country on which the Trump administration has just slapped tariffs.

For that reason, Russian gas is cheaper than American gas in Europe. With a network of pipelines already in place –- and more to come — Russia can simply pipe its gas to its European clientele. Russia is the world's largest gas exporter. Europe can simply not live without Russian gas, especially as some existing sources — particularly in the Netherlands — are on the decline. The only question is through which pipelines Western Europe is going to get its gas from their eastern neighbor. The Russians know this. The Europeans know this. And surely the Trump administration knows this.

This summer, a Russian energy official detailed an emerging concern among Kremlin officials. He'the just come from the annual Munich Security Conference, which is ostensibly focused on matters of defense and security. The Russians have long been accused of wielding their natural gas as a weapon, the stick in a "carrot and stick" approach, and yet the Russian official complained to me that America is also taking just that approach.

"A USA Official at the conference was telling the Europeans American natural gas is 'freedom gas' and to buy it to free themselves of Russian influence. The Americans want Europe to buy American gas even though it's much more expensive. They want Europe to pay 'protection money. '.

[QUOTE=Gino02;2721215]Biden fails to secure oil and regional security commitments at Arab summit ([URL]https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/biden-fails-to-secure-oil-and-regional-security-commitments-at-arab-summit/ar-AAZG3R0[/URL]).

Who's surprised? Ok, let the Libtards start defending these failures with lame excuses and blaming Trump, Republicans or anyone else. Or even more ridiculous, calling these successes? LOL.[/QUOTE]Yeah, they didn't have any more oil they could produce. Saudi Arabia thus got away with murdering Khashoggi and having a sitting POTUS come kiss their ass getting nothing in return.

But we do not need any more refineries or oil production. Oh no. There is that climate change theory and ESG scores.

Here is a great piece on nuclear. Like more oil production, it is something else we do not need.

[URL]https://environmentalprogress.org/complete-case-for-nuclear[/URL]

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2721347]Instead of laughing hysterically like a loon in response to those of us who prove you wrong time and time again, why not try to get a grip on yourself, calm down and see if you can think of something you have ever posted that was supported by the facts.

That would be a help to all of us.[/QUOTE]A delusional right-wing cracker who's come to his senses? That doesn't exist in real life, but sounds like an angle The Simpsons could explore.

[QUOTE=PVMonger;2721342]Saying something is true does not make it true. Case in point is this: "about half the world in terms of area and population was communist. " You provided no sources for your contention. Like Donnie the Dumbass, you made it up out of whole cloth without a shred of proof.

As usual, your contention is bogus as backed up by [URL]https://www.infoplease.com/world/population/area-and-population-countries[/URL] and [URL]https://www.infoplease.com/world/diplomacy/communist-countries-past-and-present[/URL].

I have done the math. Unfortunately I forgot to save my post and my computer froze while I attempted to post the results. But go ahead and do the math if you are able. All of the data is in these two sources above.

Here's what I remember from my post and you are 0 for 3.

1. 46 countries (if you count all of the satellite Soviets in the old USSR) are or have been communist. Since there are approximately 200 countries in the world, that means that about 25% are or were communist. Nowhere near half.

2. The 46 countries mentioned above have a population of about 2 billion. There were about 7. 6 billion people worldwide in 2017 when the info please figures were updated. I learned in 3rd grade that 2/7. 6 is more like 26% and not anywhere near 50%.

3. The 46 countries mentioned above have a land area that is about 10% of the worldwide land area.

But that's OK, Chrissie. Everybody knows that if you believe the 2020 election was stolen you will believe anything. You'll even believe that 26% is close to "half". I guess it is if you round upwards to the nearest fifty percent.

What was it that you said, Chrissie, in your original post? That you were full of it? Yes, you are.[/QUOTE]As always, PissVomitMonger did not properly read or understand the debate. The timeframe in question was 50 years ago, at the height of communism. In 1970, the world's population was 3. 5 billion, of which a third was in China and the USSR alone. Add in the other 30 or so communist countries and you will get to approximately half.

As I stated, the number of countries is irrelevant, unless you believe that Liechtenstein and Monaco are somehow "more" than China.

Finally, are you stating that the land area of the 46 countries (USSR, China, Mongolia, Afghanistan, Cambodia, Yemen, Cuba, Laos, North Korea, Vietnam, Bulgaria, Czech Republic, East Germany, Hungary, Poland, Romania, Slovakia, Albania, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Bulgaria, Croatia, Rep. Of Macedonia, Montenegro, Serbia, Slovenia, DR Congo, Angola, Benin, Dem Rep. Of Congo, Ethiopia, Somalia, Eritrea, and Mozambique) is about 10% of the worldwide land area? Subtract Antarctica from the total, do the math again, and show me the results. Regardless, the important factor is population, which you failed to understand (as always) was very different in 1970 to now.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2721349]Moreover, the only group in the Federal Government that seriously "Defunded the Police" was the Republican Party in the House of Representatives.

Unanimously.

[B]'Republicans are defunding the police: Fox News anchor stumps congressman[/B]

[URL]https://www.theguardian.com/media/2021/jun/28/chris-wallace-republicans-defunding-the-police-fox-news-congressman-jim-banks[/URL]

Being a "Conservative Republican" is obviously a mental disorder.[/QUOTE]Classic fake news, and one of the reasons (Chris Wallace))) was booted out of Fox and to whichever of the unwatchable, unwatched networks he is now. Here's how it works:

The democrats cook up a vast, insane, nation-wrecking, inflation-causing, debt-rocketing bill costing trillions of dollars, most of which is entirely wasted on green bullshit, kickbacks for Nancy and Joe, tranny-groomer indoctrination for small children, and all the other crap we know govts burn up our money on.

There's a couple of lines hidden in the bill about funding cops.

Republicans and any other fiscally sane people vote against the terrible bill.

The democrats and fake news shriek "THEY VOTED AGAINST THE COPS" while completely ignoring the other multiple trillions of pork bullshit.

If you want to fund the cops, pass a separate bill funding the cops. Don't hide it in the middle of your multi-trillion horseshit. Jeez, you have to be functionally retarded to fall for that. Which is another reason why democrats are so keen to replace heritage Americans with 75-IQ turd world illegals.

[QUOTE=Gino02;2721215]Biden fails to secure oil and regional security commitments at Arab summit ([URL]https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/biden-fails-to-secure-oil-and-regional-security-commitments-at-arab-summit/ar-AAZG3R0[/URL]).

Who's surprised? Ok, let the Libtards start defending these failures with lame excuses and blaming Trump, Republicans or anyone else. Or even more ridiculous, calling these successes? LOL.[/QUOTE]Remember when Trump visited Saudi Arabia? They pulled out all the stops, gave him a massive welcome, and did all kinds of great deals which ensured low gas prices and high paying jobs for Americans. Trump told them he was there do business, not to lecture and whine, and they respected him.

Now we've got this senile clown who just a couple of years ago was reading from his teleprompter that he was going to make Saudi a "pariah state" because they whacked some guy who was making trouble for them (as if the CIA, Mossad, whoever else haven't murdered hundreds of their enemies) and because of some ludicrous green bullshit. Add in to that the fact that Anthony "Rabbit in headlights" Blinken the failed rockstar apparently brings up trannies and faggots every time he meets with the Saudis. [URL]https://www.politico.com/news/2022/06/16/blinken-i-press-saudis-on-lgbtqi-issues-every-time-00040325[/URL].

Literally imagine being a high-level Saudi official. You sit down for what you think are serious talks with the US Secretary of State about trade, oil prices, regional security etc, and he starts whining "Why aren't you letting faggots buttfuck each other in public and brainwash kiddies at school?" WTF?

No wonder they just told America to fuck off and are about to join China like the rest of the world.

[QUOTE=PVMonger;2721343]Why? FUX "NewZ" and prominent Republicans all said that the Mango Mussolini's rantings about a stolen election are all hot air. [URL]https://www.foxnews.com/politics/prominent-conservatives-election-lost-not-stolen[/URL] and [URL]https://drive.google.com/file/d/1aqorZ61AYFqZU-EDQBBzjqfvAoC5nKcB/view[/URL].

The only people who should be on Netflix and members of the moron brigade.[/QUOTE]He will just call them "RINOs" then appeal to the "Independent State Legislature Theory," which is another MAGA scam. It's based on a forced, narrow interpetation of the term "legislature" in the Constitution which is at odds with it's usage at the time of the Founding Fathers as well as historical legal precedent. The SCOTUS refused to hear the nonsense after federal courts in PA rejected it. What these slimeballs suggested was nullifying the votes of millions of mail in voters who voted in good faith in states that Trump lost. Then again we are talking about American traitors who support Putin and have no interest in democracy, so we shouldn't be surprised. This legal issue is outlined here.

[URL]https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/research-reports/independent-state-legislature-theory-explained[/URL]

[QUOTE=ChrisP;2721078]
I've already demonstrated that about half the world in terms of area and population was communist. Far more than your foolish and ignorant claim of 10%.
[/QUOTE]Demonstrated? You did no such thing. You merely asserted. Using false logic. You want to include all the USSR states as individual communist states to swell the numerator, yet you exclude all the capitalist countries' individual states from the demoninator. That's your demonstration is it? The only thing you demonmstrate is your dishonest manipulation of reality.

[QUOTE=Gino02;2721215]Biden fails to secure oil and regional security commitments at Arab summit [URL]https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/biden-fails-to-secure-oil-and-regional-security-commitments-at-arab-summit/ar-AAZG3R0[/URL]

Who's surprised? Ok, let the Libtards start defending these failures with lame excuses and blaming Trump, Republicans or anyone else. Or even more ridiculous, calling these successes? LOL.[/QUOTE]You want promises that they won't do anything stupid again that threatens human rights?

From your link:

[QUOTE]In response, the crown prince brought up the abuse of prisoners that took place at Abu Ghraib prison during the U.S. war in Iraq.[/QUOTE]Yep and just a few years later the USA Electoral College appointed another idiot Repub as a so-called potus who immediately launched into partnership with Vladamir Putin to weaken and destroy Western Democratic Alliances, pave the way for authoritarian dictatorships to prevail, capping off their mission with an unprecedented deadly violent attempt to overturn a free and fair election and overthrow American Democracy.

Along the way, that one and other Repubs have reversed a half-Century of Human Rights freedom for Americans to engage in sex purely for the pleasure of it and not solely for the purpose of procreation.

Meanwhile, Biden did get this agreement, which is far and away a better response to the global energy inflation problem initially triggered by Trump's Pandemic than anything else proposed by any Repub:

[B]Saudi Arabia agrees to increase oil production levels, will help 'stabilize markets,' White House says.
Saudi Arabia committed to increase oil production levels 50% above what was initially planned for July and August[/B]

[URL]https://www.foxnews.com/politics/saudi-arabia-agrees-to-work-with-us-to-increase-oil-production-levels-will-help-stabilize-markets-white-ho[/URL]

Granted, it's from a FUX News source. But it has been repeated often enough by real news sources to have some legitimacy.

[QUOTE=PVMonger;2721342]Saying something is true does not make it true. Case in point is this: "about half the world in terms of area and population was communist. " You provided no sources for your contention. Like Donnie the Dumbass, you made it up out of whole cloth without a shred of proof.

As usual, your contention is bogus as backed up by [URL]https://www.infoplease.com/world/population/area-and-population-countries[/URL] and [URL]https://www.infoplease.com/world/diplomacy/communist-countries-past-and-present[/URL].

I have done the math. Unfortunately I forgot to save my post and my computer froze while I attempted to post the results. But go ahead and do the math if you are able. All of the data is in these two sources above.

Here's what I remember from my post and you are 0 for 3.

1. 46 countries (if you count all of the satellite Soviets in the old USSR) are or have been communist. Since there are approximately 200 countries in the world, that means that about 25% are or were communist. Nowhere near half.

2. The 46 countries mentioned above have a population of about 2 billion. There were about 7. 6 billion people worldwide in 2017 when the info please figures were updated. I learned in 3rd grade that 2/7. 6 is more like 26% and not anywhere near 50%.

3. The 46 countries mentioned above have a land area that is about 10% of the worldwide land area.

But that's OK, Chrissie. Everybody knows that if you believe the 2020 election was stolen you will believe anything. You'll even believe that 26% is close to "half". I guess it is if you round upwards to the nearest fifty percent.

What was it that you said, Chrissie, in your original post? That you were full of it? Yes, you are.[/QUOTE]I think communist countries, if you count USSR would amount to 25% for every metric -- the number, population and size. I believe, the USSR was 14%, China 6%, so it's reasonable to presume that all other former communist states would amount to other 5% in size.

But yeah, who said that 25 ain't the new 50? Not Chris.

[QUOTE=PVMonger;2721440]Donnie the Dumbass said that Germany imported too much Russian gas from Russia. Here's what we know:

World Jul 11,2018 3:29 PM EDT.

BRUSSELS President Donald Trump wasted no time in escalating his verbal attacks on Germany in the opening leg of his European tour. Seated across from NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg at breakfast Wednesday morning ahead of the alliance's meeting, Trump expanded his criticism beyond how little in his view Europe's most powerful economy spends on defense to target where they buy their energy.

"Germany is totally controlled by Russia," he said. "They will be getting between 60 and 70 percent of their energy from Russia and a new pipeline. ".

But those numbers aren't correct. Here's what we know about the pipeline and the broader fight over natural gas exports.

Trump was referring to the Nord Stream 2 Pipeline that is being built under the Baltic Sea between Russia and Germany. Gazprom, Russia's natural gas producer, is building it alongside an existing pipeline of the same name. Several European energy companies, including Royal Dutch Shell and France's Engie, are providing billions in funding.

But Trump's assertion that the pipeline will provide 60 to 70 percent of Germany's energy is incorrect. While Russia will be able to increase the amount of natural gas it sells to Germany through the pipeline, Russian gas will only provide a sliver of the overall energy Germany needs. Germany's energy comes from a diverse mix of oil, coal and renewables. Less than one fifth of the country's power is powered by natural gas; at the moment, just 9 percent of the country's power is generated by Russian gas...[/QUOTE]Yes Trump always looked for what's best for USA, and as part of that he wanted other countries to buy oil from USA instead of Russia, exactly how a POTUS should do, unlike Buyden begging for oil to baby formula from other countries. We all know these by now (or should know). What's your point in such a long response besides showing your personal inability to be concise and succinct?

[QUOTE=Gino02;2721111]Even if we let this comparison of "foreseeing issues in strategy mistakes" with a "broken watch", which on its own is completely meaningless, stick for the sake of debating, libtards didn't even realize what's coming that even a broken watch can correctly tell. From this, we infer that libtards are even worse (in foreseeing results of any strategy) than a broken watch. Agree?[/QUOTE]What happened PVMonger? Should I assume no response means you agree that libtards are even worse (in foreseeing results of any strategy) than a broken watch?

[QUOTE=ChrisP;2721535]You actually think Monaco and Liechtenstein are "more" than the USSR. LOL. Either an amusing troll or you're actually retarded.[/QUOTE]I never mentioned Manaco nor Liechtenstein, but since you want to cherry pick the data, then the ratio changes from 15/200 to 15/198 . Still way less than 10% UFM.

My point is that you are apply rues to data in an uneven and unfair manner in order to prove your POV. You are wanting to treat unions / orgaisations / federations of states as individual countries on the communist side, yet not allowing it on the capitalist-pig side. Clear, dishonest manipulation.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2721439]We need to take a poll on what is most delusional: Carter being a good president, [/QUOTE]The New-Carter is the best president the USA never had. Such a pity that he was just as bad as the rest before he learnt how to be fantastic human being in his later years.

President Biden and his acolytes have killed "wisdom" in this country. He points to incomprehensible policies like diminishing the police and failing to secure the southern border, among others.

What is absolutely true is that Biden's open border stance and emphasizing social justice over criminal justice are stupid indeed. And stupidity is the opposite of wisdom.

There are not really two sides to those issues. The campaign to harm traditional policing has led to thousands of violent deaths. No bail for dangerous criminals will do that.

And the unrestrained migration and narcotics traffic on the Mexican border has also killed legions of people.

President Biden has no answer. He and his minions simply deny there's a problem. Biden won't even visit the border, perhaps because he knows he could never pronounce "Juarez."

One of the few positive things coming out of the incredible failure of the Biden administration is the decline of the progressive movement in America.

Joe Biden campaigned as a moderate but immediately embraced far-left policies after his inauguration. That led to debilitating inflation, massive federal spending, worldwide embarrassment in Afghanistan, a woke culture that has damaged millions of Americans, and a stated presidential mandate to impose " equity. ".

The equity thing, where certain preferred groups get special treatment by both federal and state governments, has caused a horrifying spike in violent crime (minority criminals often go unpunished). In addition, Biden's ultra-dangerous open border policy (migrants dying as well as drug users) is inexplicable.

Because Mr. Biden's failures are so vivid, the progressive crew that directs him is getting hammered in the court of public opinion. The crazy-left District Attorney in San Francisco was recently fired by voters, and his counterpart in LOS Angeles County currently awaits the same recall fate.

Progressives have lost hearts and minds but not the committed leftwing media. The LOS Angeles Times, which supported the Chesa Boudin in San Francisco and George Gascon in LA, remains unrepentant of its far-left fanaticism.

In fact, that newspaper is a good roadmap to where progressives really want to go. In a recent column, Times scribe Nicholas Goldberg actually dismantles the Constitution. Please read the next paragraph carefully.

"Let's be honest: the problem isn't just with the (Supreme Court) justices. The problem, at least a substantial portion of it, lies with the USA Constitution itself.

"Yes, the hallowed Constitution, the document hammered out by 55 bewigged men in Philadelphia."

Goldberg then goes on to quote radical leftist (in my opinion) David Law, who teaches at the University of Virginia: "How could it (the Constitution) possibly fit the needs of a highly diverse country of 300-plus-million people in the 21st century. ".

So there it is, the real progressive agenda. Get rid of that arcane system of government the "white landowners" imposed back in 1787. Knock that constitutional sucker out!

Goldberg then goes on to enumerate some new provisions the LA Times thinks are cool. No electoral votes, popular vote rules. So, because California has the most citizens, it would dictate many political outcomes for the entire country.

Also, the states should not have two senators, Goldberg says. California should have many more than Wyoming and other small states.

The right to "bear arms" is "antiquated and dangerous," writes Goldberg. It absolutely has to go.

The Second Amendment should be replaced by a new mandate: "environmental rights!" Of course, the federal government would define and enforce those rights, whatever they turn out to be (say goodbye to your car).

Old Nick also wants to protect "gay, transgender and women's rights" with another new constitutional amendment.

Sure. Let's divide Americans along gender and color lines. President Biden would love that.

The grievance list of the LA Times and its progressive staff is endless. Free everything for the "oppressed. " Stick it to the haves!

That is the true progressive vision. And I very much thank Nicholas Goldberg for stating it.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2721545]I think communist countries, if you count USSR would amount to 25% for every metric -- the number, population and size. I believe, the USSR was 14%, China 6%, so it's reasonable to presume that all other former communist states would amount to other 5% in size.

But yeah, who said that 25 ain't the new 50? Not Chris.[/QUOTE]As I said below, we were talking about 50 years ago when the world population was 3.5 bn. A third of that was USSR and China. Add in the other 30 or so communist countries and you'll get something approaching half. His assertion that communists were 10% of the population is complete bullshit, like everything else he says (such as FDR's postwar presidency).

[QUOTE=ChrisP;2721693]His assertion that communists were 10% of the population is complete bullshit.[/QUOTE]Nah, that's your own false take again. Reading things how you want to interpret them to fit your narrative, even when its a lie. I never mentioned population. I said capitalism represented 90% of the world. I was using number of counttries. Then you started distorting the stats on that too bcos the numbers didn't add up for you.

[QUOTE=JustTK;2721672]The New-Carter is the best president the USA never had. Such a pity that he was just as bad as the rest before he learnt how to be fantastic human being in his later years.[/QUOTE]You mean EX-president. Yeah, he was the best ex-president in my lifetime in addition to being the absolute worst president in my lifetime.

I inquired to some people in the know about why he was so bad, and the general consensus was that he had to personally micromanage everything. That is also the biggest flaw of most Dems, the party of trial lawyers, micro management.

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2721683]And the unrestrained migration and narcotics traffic on the Mexican border has also killed legions of people.

President Biden has no answer. He and his minions simply deny there's a problem. Biden won't even visit the border, perhaps because he knows he could never pronounce Juarez.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2721686]One of the few positive things coming out of the incredible failure of the Biden administration is the decline of the progressive movement in America.[/QUOTE]Nice posts, Axel. Remember Brandon was supposed to be a moderate and who knows? Maybe he still is.

It is possible the real steal in 2020 was not from Trump but from Biden to Ron Klain. Did you know we elected our first Jewish president in 2020?

It is funny I heard that Biden was taking drugs prior to his debates with Trump. If he were, I suspect he was getting Adderall and a dementia drug called donepezil. This article mentions Namenda but that is a drug for chronic use. It would actually mess someone if given in a short burst. [URL]https://www.independentsentinel.com/report-that-bidens-fed-pills-prior-to-public-speeches/[/URL].

Then there was this Biden has a history of brain surgeries and other significant health issues. After his aneurisms, the doctor said he won't be the same.

I was like WTF? Why was this not being spouted everywhere? The notion being spread is that they got all the bad stuff which is bullshit. The underlying cause for aneurysms, vascular disease, is still there.

The same was true with Hiliary by the way. She had brain issues. [URL]https://blog.everymothercounts.org/hillary-clintons-brain-blood-clots-strokes-and-embolism-f42710daff1f[/URL].

They both had vascular disease in the brain, and vascular dementia is characterized by waxing and waning levels of cognition which you can see in both these two.

Chris P blasted Jewish bankers as promoting the horrible ESG scores, and he is right. I just wish he would have contrasted the evil Democratic Jewish bankers like Robert Rubin and Lloyd Blankefein with solid Jewish conservatives like Ben Shapiro. Anyway, these evil bankers have screwed up so much and are funding the crazy progressive agenda you laid out.

This one passage from Klain's wiki page tells you all you need to know about him: In financial disclosures Klain reported owning assets worth between $4. 4 m and $12.2 m in 2021 compared to between $1. 4 m and $3. 5 m in 2009. He received a salary of almost $2 m in 2020 from the venture capital firm Revolution LLC, where he served as general counsel and executive vice president. In 2009, he reported earning a salary of $1 m.

He is the second coming of Robert Rubin but has even more power. Bleech!

When I voted for Trump, much of the reason was he was his own man free from being easily paid off. There is a swamp in Washington and they really screwed him over. That is going to be the dilemma for me going forward with my vote. I do not think Trump can drain the swamp but I would love to see him take an even bigger whack at it. Desantis probably would just trim it a little.

I wonder who I would have voted for in 2016 had Jeb Bush run against Bernie Sanders. It is funny that the one guy who is not beholden to the Jewish bankers in the Democratic party is Jewish. I have little doubt Jeb is bought and paid for by them. Thing about Bernie and Trump was that they were really the only candidates who appealed to the pubic (and given the name populist snidely by the press).

I voted for Trump but I certainly would have preferred Jewish President Bernie Sanders to Jewish President Ron Klain.

[QUOTE=ChrisP;2721492]As always, PissVomitMonger did not properly read or understand the debate. The timeframe in question was 50 years ago, at the height of communism. In 1970, the world's population was 3. 5 billion, of which a third was in China and the USSR alone. Add in the other 30 or so communist countries and you will get to approximately half.

As I stated, the number of countries is irrelevant, unless you believe that Liechtenstein and Monaco are somehow "more" than China.

Finally, are you stating that the land area of the 46 countries (USSR, China, Mongolia, Afghanistan, Cambodia, Yemen, Cuba, Laos, North Korea, Vietnam, Bulgaria, Czech Republic, East Germany, Hungary, Poland, Romania, Slovakia, Albania, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Bulgaria, Croatia, Rep. Of Macedonia, Montenegro, Serbia, Slovenia, DR Congo, Angola, Benin, Dem Rep. Of Congo, Ethiopia, Somalia, Eritrea, and Mozambique) is about 10% of the worldwide land area? Subtract Antarctica from the total, do the math again, and show me the results. Regardless, the important factor is population, which you failed to understand (as always) was very different in 1970 to now.[/QUOTE]Pretty typical for you. Don't like being called out for lying? Just change the parameters and say that the other person is an idiot.

OK, leader of the moron brigade, let's take a look.

First, in 1970 (that's the date [B]you[/B] used (the world's population was 3.68 billion. The total population of the USSR and China was a little over 1 billion. That's about 28%. And while 28% is close to 33.3%, it isn't 33.3%. You lose.

Second, every knows that you are ignorant of history. Of the 26 countries you mentioned, 5 weren't even communist in 1970. No changing the dates, either. [B]You[/B] said 1970. And the population of the countries that were communist in 1970 was a little over 220 million. Add 220 million to 1 billion and divide that by 3.68 billion. Oops! Not close to "half" is it? You lose.

Third, the land area of Antarctica is about 10% of the worldwide land area. So communist countries were 20% of your made up number. You lose again.

When somebody is ignorant, they make dumb statements that are unsupported by facts. After all, anybody who believes that the Army took over the airports during the Revolutionary War will believe anything!

[QUOTE=ChrisP;2721494]Classic fake news, and one of the reasons (Chris Wallace))) was booted out of Fox and to whichever of the unwatchable, unwatched networks he is now. Here's how it works:

The democrats cook up a vast, insane, nation-wrecking, inflation-causing, debt-rocketing bill costing trillions of dollars, most of which is entirely wasted on green bullshit, kickbacks for Nancy and Joe, tranny-groomer indoctrination for small children, and all the other crap we know govts burn up our money on.

There's a couple of lines hidden in the bill about funding cops.

Republicans and any other fiscally sane people vote against the terrible bill.

The democrats and fake news shriek "THEY VOTED AGAINST THE COPS" while completely ignoring the other multiple trillions of pork bullshit..[/QUOTE]Anything that little Miss Chrissie doesn't agree with is "fake news."

He's back to copying and pasting the words of others without attributing the source. The latest is from Bill O'Reilly's column. Yawns.

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2721683]President Biden and his acolytes have killed "wisdom" in this country. He points to incomprehensible policies like diminishing the police and failing to secure the southern border, among others.

What is absolutely true is that Biden's open border stance and emphasizing social justice over criminal justice are stupid indeed. And stupidity is the opposite of wisdom.

There are not really two sides to those issues. The campaign to harm traditional policing has led to thousands of violent deaths. No bail for dangerous criminals will do that.

And the unrestrained migration and narcotics traffic on the Mexican border has also killed legions of people.

President Biden has no answer. He and his minions simply deny there's a problem. Biden won't even visit the border, perhaps because he knows he could never pronounce "Juarez."[/QUOTE]Another Bill Reilly rip off with the worn out "open borders" straw man that no one has advocated.

[URL]https://www.billoreilly.com/b/The-Death-of-Wisdom/-342856834668095591.html?dest=%2Fmobile%2Fblogdetail.jsp[/URL]

This while border sneaks ins increased under Trump's watch. Way to go Axel Hole. Why not try writing some of your own material? You probably could do better.

[URL]https://www.cato.org/blog/trumps-border-policies-let-more-immigrants-sneak[/URL]

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2721686]One of the few positive things coming out of the incredible failure of the Biden administration is the decline of the progressive movement in America.

Joe Biden campaigned as a moderate but immediately embraced far-left policies after his inauguration. That led to debilitating inflation, massive federal spending, worldwide embarrassment in Afghanistan, a woke culture that has damaged millions of Americans, and a stated presidential mandate to impose " equity. ".

The equity thing, where certain preferred groups get special treatment by both federal and state governments, has caused a horrifying spike in violent crime (minority criminals often go unpunished). In addition, Biden's ultra-dangerous open border policy (migrants dying as well as drug users) is inexplicable.

Because Mr. Biden's failures are so vivid, the progressive crew that directs him is getting hammered in the court of public opinion. The crazy-left District Attorney in San Francisco was recently fired by voters, and his counterpart in LOS Angeles County currently awaits the same recall fate.

Progressives have lost hearts and minds but not the committed leftwing media. The LOS Angeles Times, which supported the Chesa Boudin in San Francisco and George Gascon in LA, remains unrepentant of its far-left fanaticism...[/QUOTE]No sane person can dispute this.

[QUOTE=Paulie97;2721845]Another Bill Reilly rip off with the worn out "open borders" straw man that no one has advocated.

This while border sneaks ins increased under Trump's watch. [/QUOTE]You got me. I am soooo embarrassed. Ha Ha.

The reason I did not place quotes around the post is obvious. Left wing stooges like yourself would have dismissed the merit if the point I wanted to make without reading it and then stupidly attacked and vilified the author. It is a ploy you hatchet boys use all the time to avoid real debate on the issues.

The 2nd trick the left likes to use is to just flat out lie by manipulating the data. For example your link to Cato dated March 10,2021 does not give any support to your position that Biden's open border policy is better than Trump's wait in Mexico policy because in fact fewer illegal immigrants entered the country per year under Trump's leadership that under Biden's mismanagement. So your apparent counter argument is inane and deceitfully meaningless.

It belongs right up there with BKK Bob's lunacy that the economy is better under Biden than it was under Trump or that Jimmy Carter ended stagflation which are both straight out lies. This is why I normally have you and your psycho pals on ignore and I do not pay any attention to what you post. Be assured that after I file this reply I will put you back on my ignore list where you belong.

But wait, before I put you back on ignore, just answer these simple questions:

We all know the left thinks open borders are good, so why aren't you proud of Biden's border accomplishment? He has allowed 4 or 5 million illegal aliens into the country since he came into office which is a violation of his oath of office BTW. Saying that Trump fucked up the border because he let in more illegal aliens than Biden or Obama makes no sense coming from a far left wing loon point of view. If it were true you would be applauding Trump and saying he is your guy. LOL.

2. Can a man become pregnant? / Is a ladyboy a girl?

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2721921]You got me. I am soooo embarrassed. Ha Ha.

The reason I did not place quotes around the post is obvious. Left wing stooges like yourself would have dismissed the merit if the point I wanted to make without reading it and then stupidly attacked and vilified the author. It is a ploy you hatchet boys use all the time to avoid real debate on the issues.[/QUOTE]Doubtful. You know that whenever you quote or even rephrase someone you're supposed to give attribution. Your reasoning sounds like people who don't respect Bill O'Reilly may take seriously someone like Axel Heyst.

Why?

Not only is your explanation not obvious, it simply doesn't hold water.

It sounds to me like you WERE embarrassed to quote O'Reilly. In which case maybe try to share your own thoughts next time.

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2721921]2. Can a man become pregnant? / Is a ladyboy a girl?[/QUOTE]I can help you with these. No and no.

[QUOTE=PVMonger;2721796]First, in 1970 (that's the date [B]you[/B] used (the world's population was 3.68 billion. The total population of the USSR and China was a little over 1 billion. That's about 28%. And while 28% is close to 33.3%, it isn't 33.3%.[/QUOTE]It's hilarious and deeply sad that you actually went and dug up population stats from 1970. Now I can see why you've posted every day on here for years.

P.S. Total population of USSR / China was 29%. But well done on your 4%! Point is, JustTK the black knight's assertion that communism was a tiny, beleaguered 10% was rubbish. Whether it was 42%, 38%, whatever, it was a serious and significant chunk of the world's population. (And that's not including the fellow travellers and fifth columnists in capitalist countries!) And it failed because, like everything produced by leftists, it was bullshit.

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2721921]You got me. I am soooo embarrassed. Ha Ha.

The reason I did not place quotes around the post is obvious. Left wing stooges like yourself would have dismissed the merit if the point I wanted to make without reading it and then stupidly attacked and vilified the author. It is a ploy you hatchet boys use all the time to avoid real debate on the issues.

The 2nd trick the left likes to use is to just flat out lie by manipulating the data. For example your link to Cato dated March 10,2021 does not give any support to your position that Biden's open border policy is better than Trump's wait in Mexico policy because in fact fewer illegal immigrants entered the country per year under Trump's leadership that under Biden's mismanagement. So your apparent counter argument is inane and deceitfully meaningless.

It belongs right up there with BKK Bob's lunacy that the economy is better under Biden than it was under Trump or that Jimmy Carter ended stagflation which are both straight out lies. This is why I normally have you and your psycho pals on ignore and I do not pay any attention to what you post. Be assured that after I file this reply I will put you back on my ignore list where you belong.[/QUOTE]Biden's economy is producing way more jobs than there are applicants to apply for them. Illegal immigrants are not stealing your future.

If it's crime you're worried about, tell House Repubs to stop voting to Defund The Police. And, no, the profile of the greatest criminal threat to life and limb in the USA is not an illegal immigrant with an AR-15.

If discrimination based on sexual preference or gender identity is outlawed across the country are you concerned about waking up one morning as a pregnant ladyboy?

How did Biden's "far-left" policy of doing what was necessary to pull the USA out of the Trump's Pandemic Repub Economic Disaster make this happen?

[B]U.S. inflation rate is in the middle of the pack globally[/B]

[URL]https://www.axios.com/2022/06/13/inflation-rates-around-world-us-china-eu-japan[/URL]

[QUOTE]Inflation in the U.S. is at a 40-year high, but America isnt alone. Soaring prices are a truly global phenomenon.
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Turkeys official inflation rate of 74% is the highest in the G20, and it's likely higher still in reality.

The next highest is Argentina (+58%), which has been printing money to help cover its deficit.

Several of the biggest economies in Latin America and Africa are also recording double-digit inflation.[/QUOTE]And this:

[B]Here's How U.S. Gas Prices Compare to Other Countries'[/B]

[URL]https://www.newsweek.com/how-us-gas-prices-compare-other-countries-1714242[/URL]

[QUOTE]In fact, the country hovers in the middle of a list comparing gas prices around the world, according to Global Petrol Prices, a website that tracks the retail price of gas across 150 countries.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Gino02;2721587]What happened PVMonger? Should I assume no response means you agree that libtards are even worse (in foreseeing results of any strategy) than a broken watch?[/QUOTE]Alright, since PVMonger is posting other reports since this post, but not rebutting my response to his statement about comparing Trump predicting Germany's current fuel crisis in 2018 with "even a broken watch is correct twice a day", we conclude that PVMonger agrees that "Libtards are even worse (in foreseeing results of any strategy) than a broken watch". Let's move on.

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2721921]You got me. [/QUOTE]Of course I did. It's a constant event as you copy and post the material of others with no quotation marks or source attributions. You're a sitting duck.

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2721921]The reason I did not place quotes around the post is obvious. Left wing stooges like yourself would have dismissed the merit if the point I wanted to make without reading it and then stupidly attacked and vilified the author. [/QUOTE]It's funny and ironic, since you are so ashamed of the author that you want to steal his material.

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2721921]It is a ploy you hatchet boys use all the time to avoid real debate on the issues. [/QUOTE]Source evaluation is part of "real debate. " There's the source then often the sources within the source like imbedded links. Someone's rambling demagogic blog post or a Tucker Carlson rant is virtually worthless, as is Russian state propaganda. Are you implying that there are no right wingnuts hanging out here that attack sources? Sure they do, but like you are typically too embarrassed to reveal their own because they usually are something along the lines of Tucker Carlson, Breitbart, Russia State News, or the World Tribune. I had to put your whole post in Google to find where you stole it from. Do you really think no one notices this behavior?

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2721921]The 2nd trick the left likes to use is to just flat out lie by manipulating the data. For example your link to Cato dated March 10,2021 does not give any support to your position that Biden's open border policy is better than Trump's wait in Mexico policy because in fact fewer illegal immigrants entered the country per year under Trump's leadership that under Biden's mismanagement. So your apparent counter argument is inane and deceitfully meaningless. [/QUOTE]Nonsense as you obviously didn't read the article. Your explanation is invalid, and was anticipated and answered by the author.

"Yet despite this supposed focus, the government records show that Border Patrol was observing more immigrants sneaking into the country than when President Trump took office. In fiscal year 2016, Border Patrol agents witnessed about 100,000 successful entries. By 2018, the number had risen to nearly 128,000. In 2019, it hit 150,000. Through four months of 2020, it was on pace to hit almost 156,000. It appears to have worsened since then. In early 2020, officials told the Washington Post that got‐8203;aways had "soared," reaching over 1,000 on one day. Nor can the Trump team claim that the increased crossings were only the result of more people crossing overall. In January 2020,29 percent of 41,000 detected crossers evaded capture. In December 2016,17 percent of 52,400 made it in. ".

[URL]https://www.cato.org/blog/trumps-border-policies-let-more-immigrants-sneak[/URL]

Also see the graph within the article. It's quite the steep climb of successful sneak-ins from 2015, then spiking from 2017 through 2020 while the volume of detections remained relatively constant. The percentage of successful sneak-ins relative to detections also increased. Prior successes were largely the product of enhanced detection technology put in place during the Obama administration. See the imbedded link within the article. The Trump administration though dropped the ball, did not follow through with this technology. Then again we saw what they think of law enforcement on January 6th, 2021.

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2721921]Be assured that after I file this reply I will put you back on my ignore list where you belong. [/QUOTE]"Back" on ignore? Sounds like our pal Elvis. I mean who else is constantly taking members on and off ignore? LOL The blustery, unsubstantive and source free writing style here is rather similar. Perhaps you all are distant relatives.

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2721921]We all know the left thinks open borders are good [/QUOTE]I'm personally a centrist, but have yet to hear a single politician make a case for "open borders. " We've repeatedly asked for proof of this by way of sourced quotes but none have been forthcoming. Would you care to be the first to provide this? Asylum seekers and others are turned away at the border all the time. Last I checked I had to make it through customs when I returned from Colombia.

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2721921]so why aren't you proud of Biden's border accomplishment? [/QUOTE]Biden was a step in the right direction as we got a criminal tyrant out of office. Plus Mexicans aren't your problem if you have an IQ over 60 and are willing to apply yourself. More on that in a moment.

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2721921]He has allowed 4 or 5 million illegal aliens into the country[/QUOTE]Prove it. The numbers aren't even remotely that high, 4 to 5 million given passage in the last 18 months. There were 2 million apprehensions during the first 13 months but most of those were immediately sent back. The rest awaited adjudication. Migrant "encounters" have since increased, back up to Y2 K levels but the pandemic is of course a significant factor. Encounter levels were rising significantly under Trump as well once the pandemic got going.

[URL]https://www.factcheck.org/2022/02/cotton-distorts-border-apprehension-impact/[/URL]

Also some of us are for a looser immigration policy as we need our yards mowed, fruit picked, roofing services, and we want our hamburgers served within a reasonable length of time. And the vast majority of migrants are hard working and law abiding. We are experiencing a labor shortage. Historically what always follows that? Migration, has been going on for millenniums. As to you, you are a xenophobe that is being played by demagogues like Trump. In sociological terms it's all about "the other," people who look and think differently than you. The sky is always falling in your world but the problem is you, your dishonesty and spurious arguments, not Mexican immigrants.

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2721921]Can a man become pregnant? / Is a ladyboy a girl?[/QUOTE]LOL That's the far left, have spoken against it myself, especially the transsexuals in womens' sports. Then there's the far right hillbillies that worship Trump. Most of us are in between the extremes. Some of us are honest enough to quote our sources and not steal material, which was where we started wasn't it? Wink.

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2721921] Can a man become pregnant? / Is a ladyboy a girl?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2721942]I can help you with these. No and no.[/QUOTE]That is a logical answer to my question and it indicates that you are not WOKE. This along with the fact that you post actual trip reports further demonstrates that you are not a left wing fanatic like some others on this thread.

But why do you think the Wokes will not or can not answer this question? And why do they insist on indoctrinating young school children with this drivel? And why are they intent on destroying women's sports by allowing men (tranys) to compete in women's events?

And please note the Left's tactic of trying to cancel anyone who opposes their insanity combined with another favorite woke tactic of accusing those who oppose this sexual identity idiocy as homophobes and / or sexist like BKK Bob just tried to do to me in his last post.

No BKK Bob, I am not concerned "about waking up one morning as a pregnant ladyboy?" I just don't like what is going on in our grade schools. No sane person does. Leave our kids alone, fascists! But I note that you did not answer the question. If you are in agreement with the idea that chromosomes do not determine one's sex and therefore that individuals can be any sex they want to be; how many ladyboys have you slept with? This is not a gotcha question. I have no problem with anybody who enjoys shagging ladyboys. As you probably know, I have been to LOS around 50 times in the last 25 years and so I am quite used to ladyboys asking me to enter their Go Go's as I wander around Nana or ladyboys SW's offering themselves to me on Soi 4 or on Sukhumvit. They do not bother me and I don't care how many ladyboys you have slept with. I am just trying to point out the lunacy of the woke Democratic party. So one more time since you did not answer my simple question: "can a man become pregnant? / Is a ladyboy a girl? The answer is obvious so why won't the Left answer it?

[QUOTE=ChrisP;2721962]It's hilarious and deeply sad that you actually went and dug up population stats from 1970. Now I can see why you've posted every day on here for years.

P.S. Total population of USSR / China was 29%. But well done on your 4%! Point is, JustTK the black knight's assertion that communism was a tiny, beleaguered 10% was rubbish. Whether it was 42%, 38%, whatever, it was a serious and significant chunk of the world's population. (And that's not including the fellow travellers and fifth columnists in capitalist countries!) And it failed because, like everything produced by leftists, it was bullshit.[/QUOTE]Here you go again, changing the parameters when you lose.

You were the one who said Communists were close to half of the population. They weren't. So what do you do, you deflect. Whether JustTK was incorrect is immaterial. [B]You[/B] were the one who said communism was half of the world's population. Not him, [B]you[/B]. And now, like a good rightwingnut, you intimate that it doesn't make any difference that [B]you[/B] were wrong because he was wrong also.

Maybe one of these days you will learn to research stuff before posting. But I doubt it. In the old days, this was called "Before opening your mouth, put your brain into gear". You ought to try it because you will appear less ignorant.

[QUOTE=Gino02;2721984]Alright, since PVMonger is posting other reports since this post, but not rebutting my response to his statement about comparing Trump predicting Germany's current fuel crisis in 2018 with "even a broken watch is correct twice a day", we conclude that PVMonger agrees that "Libtards are even worse (in foreseeing results of any strategy) than a broken watch". Let's move on.[/QUOTE]The mod saw fit not to post my reply to you. I will try again. The proverb, "A broken watch is right twice a day" means [B]a normally unreliable person or instrument can occasionally provide correct information, even if only by accident.[/B].

Please tell me that your boy the Mango Mussolini was correct on the following: 1. COVID will go away with the warm weather; 2. The Army took over the airports during the Revolutionary War; 3. Tariffs will be paid by China, not by Americans; 4. Muslims were dancing in the streets after the collapse of the World Trade Center; 5. Ted Cruz' father was involved in the assassination of JFK; 6. Trump's inauguration crowd was larger than Obama's; 7. Mexico will pay for the wall; 8. Injecting disinfectant will cure COVID. There are more than 30,000 more but my fingers are tired of typing.

See, that's what is meant by a normally unreliable person can get something right by accident. Even you.

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2722064]

No BKK Bob, I am not concerned "about waking up one morning as a pregnant ladyboy?" I just don't like what is going on in our grade schools. No sane person does. Leave our kids alone, fascists! But I note that you did not answer the question. If you are in agreement with the idea that chromosomes do not determine one's sex and therefore that individuals can be any sex they want to be; how many ladyboys have you slept with? This is not a gotcha question. I have no problem with anybody who enjoys shagging ladyboys. As you probably know, I have been to LOS around 50 times in the last 25 years and so I am quite used to ladyboys asking me to enter their Go Go's as I wander around Nana or ladyboys SW's offering themselves to me on Soi 4 or on Sukhumvit. They do not bother me and I don't care how many ladyboys you have slept with. I am just trying to point out the lunacy of the woke Democratic party. So one more time since you did not answer my simple question: "can a man become pregnant? / Is a ladyboy a girl? The answer is obvious so why won't the Left answer it?[/QUOTE]My opinion of the issue is right there in my posts subject line and the body of the post; what on earth difference should it make to you what gender anyone chooses to identify with? There is no push or expectation that a man choosing to identify with whatever trappings, body / chemical altering he wants, male or female, "changes" him into a child-bearing human with a real vagina. Or the counterpart scenario taking a natural born female from female to male gender identification.

The concept is "gender identification", not "miraculous transformation. " Seriously, no amount of surgery or chemistry will turn an male into a female or a female into a male to the point of the latter being able to impregnate a woman or the former birth a child. It is only about how someone wants to present themselves, which seems to be an inordinately high concern for people who should keep their busy-body noses out of it.

As far as your plea to "Leave our kids alone", that is exactly what the movement to prevent YOU from pushing them away from whatever inclination they choose is about.

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2722064]That is a logical answer to my question and it indicates that you are not WOKE. This along with the fact that you post actual trip reports further demonstrates that you are not a left wing fanatic like some others on this thread.

But why do you think the Wokes will not or can not answer this question? And why do they insist on indoctrinating young school children with this drivel? And why are they intent on destroying women's sports by allowing men (tranys) to compete in women's events?

And please note the Left's tactic of trying to cancel anyone who opposes their insanity combined with another favorite woke tactic of accusing those who oppose this sexual identity idiocy as homophobes and / or sexist like BKK Bob just tried to do to me in his last post.

No BKK Bob, I am not concerned "about waking up one morning as a pregnant ladyboy?" I just don't like what is going on in our grade schools. No sane person does. Leave our kids alone, fascists! But I note that you did not answer the question. If you are in agreement with the idea that chromosomes do not determine one's sex and therefore that individuals can be any sex they want to be; how many ladyboys have you slept with? This is not a gotcha question. I have no problem with anybody who enjoys shagging ladyboys. As you probably know, I have been to LOS around 50 times in the last 25 years and so I am quite used to ladyboys asking me to enter their Go Go's as I wander around Nana or ladyboys SW's offering themselves to me on Soi 4 or on Sukhumvit. They do not bother me and I don't care how many ladyboys you have slept with. I am just trying to point out the lunacy of the woke Democratic party. So one more time since you did not answer my simple question: "can a man become pregnant? / Is a ladyboy a girl? The answer is obvious so why won't the Left answer it?[/QUOTE]See, [blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue]. You take an illogical position then ask others to try to defend a statement based upon your illogical position.

You use the term "woke". I suspect that you don't understand is that the opposite of "woke" is "asleep". But most rightwingnuts are asleep, so there's that.

Can a man become pregnant? By asking that question, you profess your ignorance that someone who is a transgender man (formerly a woman) can't become pregnant. Is a ladyboy a girl? Does she think she is? Again, you are showing your ignorance.

But that's what you rightwingnuts are all about. Ignorance. That's what the one-term, twice-impeached, POtuS wanted. And he got them. Doubled. In spades.

[QUOTE=PVMonger;2722075]The mod saw fit not to post my reply to you. I will try again. The proverb, "A broken watch is right twice a day" means [B]a normally unreliable person or instrument can occasionally provide correct information, even if only by accident.[/B].

Please tell me that your boy the Mango Mussolini was correct on the following: 1. COVID will go away with the warm weather; 2. The Army took over the airports during the Revolutionary War; 3. Tariffs will be paid by China, not by Americans; 4. Muslims were dancing in the streets after the collapse of the World Trade Center; 5. Ted Cruz' father was involved in the assassination of JFK; 6. Trump's inauguration crowd was larger than Obama's; 7. Mexico will pay for the wall; 8. Injecting disinfectant will cure COVID. There are more than 30,000 more but my fingers are tired of typing.

See, that's what is meant by a normally unreliable person can get something right by accident. Even you.[/QUOTE]I (and I believe I can speak for we all the reasonable Republicans as well) truly feel sorry for brainwashed libtards like you who can't differentiate jokes from serious statements. This deficiency can be funny at times but seriously harmful for the society as people with such deficiency exercise their voting rights against their own good based on misunderstood statements, not based on the actual achievements, failures and strategies of the candidates.

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2722064]That is a logical answer to my question and it indicates that you are not WOKE. This along with the fact that you post actual trip reports further demonstrates that you are not a left wing fanatic like some others on this thread.

But why do you think the Wokes will not or can not answer this question? And why do they insist on indoctrinating young school children with this drivel? And why are they intent on destroying women's sports by allowing men (tranys) to compete in women's events?

And please note the Left's tactic of trying to cancel anyone who opposes their insanity combined with another favorite woke tactic of accusing those who oppose this sexual identity idiocy as homophobes and / or sexist like BKK Bob just tried to do to me in his last post.

No BKK Bob, I am not concerned "about waking up one morning as a pregnant ladyboy?" I just don't like what is going on in our grade schools. No sane person does. Leave our kids alone, fascists! But I note that you did not answer the question. If you are in agreement with the idea that chromosomes do not determine one's sex and therefore that individuals can be any sex they want to be; how many ladyboys have you slept with? This is not a gotcha question. I have no problem with anybody who enjoys shagging ladyboys. As you probably know, I have been to LOS around 50 times in the last 25 years and so I am quite used to ladyboys asking me to enter their Go Go's as I wander around Nana or ladyboys SW's offering themselves to me on Soi 4 or on Sukhumvit. They do not bother me and I don't care how many ladyboys you have slept with. I am just trying to point out the lunacy of the woke Democratic party. So one more time since you did not answer my simple question: "can a man become pregnant? / Is a ladyboy a girl? The answer is obvious so why won't the Left answer it?[/QUOTE]Well you have all the lingo down, "the left" "woke" "cancel," etc. You've been indoctrinated well, good little sheep / cyber foot soldier. "The left" though feels like they are the ones getting "canceled. " Here's an interesting article.

"These are laughable concerns from those who tried to cancel millions of black people's votes in the last presidential election, and whose party is now cranking out literally hundreds of voter suppression laws to cancel Black people's voting rights. It's also a perfect illustration of the bait-and-switch tactic underlying all the phony Republican hysteria fueling so-called cancel culture. Conservatives' indignation is really just anger over the fact that marginalized folks—mostly thanks to social media—can now call them out for all the things they regularly say and do to further racist, sexist, homophobic, and transphobic agendas and white mob violence. What these put-upon conservatives are really pissed about isn't censorship or cancellation. It's consequences. ".

[URL]https://www.thenation.com/article/society/republicans-cancel-culture-kaepernick/[/URL]

And another, but it's for sure that the far right are pros at cancelling.

"What more grotesque display of cancel culture is there than invading the USA Capitol in a violent attempt to cancel the constitutional tabulation of ballots in the 2020 presidential election? Or the Republican officials who even now seek to erase the past 13 months of Joe Biden's presidency (not to mention 81,283,098 votes) by refusing to say that he was elected? Or demanding the cancellation of the television show "The View" because of the odious and uninformed opinions of Whoopi Goldberg? Or the calls for the removal of Colin Kaepernick from the NFL for legally protesting as part of the Black Lives Matter movement? Or, in 2003, the banning of "French fries" from the menus of congressional dining rooms because the government of France opposed the Iraq war? Or demanding that radio stations not play songs by the Dixie Chicks because of the group's opposition to the same invasion? Or last year's attempt by the Ohio secretary of state to cancel a Jane Fonda speech because of her 50-year-old views on Vietnam?

[URL]https://thehill.com/opinion/civil-rights/594423-the-cancel-culture-of-the-right/[/URL]

If you want to "debate" as you claim you do you need to do more than parrot Tucker Carlson buzz words. You need to engage with the other side, and from their perspective, not a perversion of it.

[QUOTE=PVMonger;2722067]Maybe one of these days you will learn to research stuff before posting. But I doubt it. In the old days, this was called "Before opening your mouth, put your brain into gear". You ought to try it because you will appear less ignorant.[/QUOTE]You're asking a lot here. Wink.

OK, Pxxx is back on my ignore list because I won't waste my time debating with an angry concrete wall. It gets you nowhere. To quote Bill O'Reilly, anyone who thinks illegal immigration is under control and lower under Biden than it was under Trump is either a "Loon" or a liar or both.

Every sane person know this and I won't debate a loon. Now Biden maybe doesn't know what is going on at the border, but we know Biden is mentally infirmed. You can bet your last peso that Nancy, Sandy, Bernie and fake Pocahontas along with all the elites and various leaders of the woke Marxist Democratic party know the truth. The open border is not an accident or caused by bad management. They want an open border to dilute the percentage of American citizens in the USA and to facilitate their planned totalitarian left wing takeover of the country ie to turn the country into California. It is just tragic for the left that Joe Biden is president and his incompetent presidency is destroying the movement by awakening the American people to the danger. This is what happens when you make a deal with the Devil.

[URL]https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2022/jun/1/135-million-new-illegal-immigrants-settled-us-unde/[/URL]

Hey Pxxx, you want slog me over my not providing quotes to 2 memos I cut and pasted from [URL]https://www.billoreilly.com/?[/URL] OK fine. But then what the fuck about your boy Biden? You conveniently forgot about him didn't you? What is the matter with you? Here is video to remind you of what Biden was like before he lost his mind when he was just a liar and 3nd rate political hack.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmuAB5MqP0Y[/URL]

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2721974]Biden's economy is producing way more jobs than there are applicants to apply for them If it's crime you're worried about, tell House Repubs to stop voting to Defund The Police.[/QUOTE]Who writes for this guy? He's a comedy genius. Whenever I see an Eihtooms post I need to make sure I'm sitting down before I start reading.

The demonstrably winger-leaning RealClearPolitics now shows the Generic Ballot poll of polls at a statistical tie between Dems and Repubs at only a well within a normal margin of error 1. 8 percentage point "advantage" for Repubs. And this is down from a near double digit advantage for the Repubs just 2-3 months ago:

[URL]https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/2022-generic-congressional-vote-7361.html[/URL]

I guess the unanimous vote by House Republicans to Defund the Police, the Repub SCOTUS' decision to overturn Roe v Wade and thereby outlaw Sex-For-Pleasure in America and the Repubs' love for making sure America's loony winger mass murderers are the best armed and equipped on the planet to kill as many children with a single squeeze of the trigger as possible is catching up with them for this midterm.

[QUOTE=Paulie97;2722014]
I'm personally a centrist,[/QUOTE]ROFL. Centre of what? The Communist Manifesto?

[QUOTE=Paulie97;2722014]but have yet to hear a single politician make a case for "open borders. " We've repeatedly asked for proof of this by way of sourced quotes but none have been forthcoming. Would you care to be the first to provide this? Asylum seekers and others are turned away at the border all the time. Last I checked I had to make it through customs when I returned from Colombia.[/QUOTE]Of course they don't make the case for it. They've been lying about it since 1965, as I said last week and the great Tucker Carlson pointed out on his #1 rated show just last night (we are not the same person, in case you were wondering). Ted Kennedy and the rest of the democrats promised that the 1965 Immigration Act would not change the demographics of the country. We all know how that went.

And now the Washington swamp, with their fraudulent president and fake media, are all telling you the border is secure while waving in millions of low IQ losers who couldn't make it in their turd world shitholes, yet are somehow going to become the rocket scientists, brain surgeons and wealth creators of 21st Century America. ROFL.

They are there to replace the heritage American people with a permanent low IQ underclass, to be controlled, distracted, and fed bread and circuses on govt welfare handouts while Nancy gets on with her insider trading, Bill gets on with his rapes, Joe and Hunter get on with their kickbacks, Hillary gets on with her emails, the Jewish banksters and media-mafia get on with ripping everyone off and controlling what we see and say, and we all live unhappily ever after.

Nope. We won't allow it to happen. Time to take back America.

[QUOTE=PVMonger;2722067]Whether JustTK was incorrect is immaterial.[/QUOTE]ROFL, no, that was the entire point, which I proved correctly. JustTK aka the black knight claimed that communism was "a tiny enclave of 10% of the world". That was clearly misleading. Point made.

What is not immaterial is some points that you have been dodging lately. Here are a few:

Was Trump correct in telling the Germans that their reliance on Russian energy would put them in danger (while they giggled like the idiotic children that they are)? If yes, will you give him credit for his remarkable prescience?

Was Biden (or rather his handlers) correct to give the go-ahead for the Nordstream 2 Russia-Germany pipeline soon after being fraudulently installed (after Trump had blocked it during his presidency)? Were the handlers correct to block the XL Keystone pipeline and reduce US energy production?

What is a woman?

They'll do for now. Short answers please (hate to be the one to break it to you but nobody except you reads your turgid 2000 word diatribes. They are in fact how you gained the moniker PissVomitMonger).

Would it be "argumentative" to ask the White Nationalists on this thread to stand up and be counted?

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2721974]Biden's economy is producing way more jobs than there are applicants to apply for them. Illegal immigrants are not stealing your future.

If it's crime you're worried about, tell House Repubs to stop voting to Defund The Police. And, no, the profile of the greatest criminal threat to life and limb in the USA is not an illegal immigrant with an AR-15.

If discrimination based on sexual preference or gender identity is outlawed across the country are you concerned about waking up one morning as a pregnant ladyboy?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ChrisP;2722207]Who writes for this guy? He's a comedy genius. Whenever I see an Eihtooms post I need to make sure I'm sitting down before I start reading.[/QUOTE]Just to clarify, is it his ladyboy joke that gives you the giggles or the other stuff?

If it's the other stuff, what exactly is he wrong about?

Since Biden took office, the unemployment dropped from 6. 4% to 3. 6%. That's over 40% drop.

[URL]https://www.usnews.com/news/politics/articles/2022-04-01/bidens-deceptively-strong-economy[/URL]

And yes, the House Republicans DID vote to defund the Police. Why, you didn't know?

[URL]https://www.theguardian.com/media/2021/jun/28/chris-wallace-republicans-defunding-the-police-fox-news-congressman-jim-banks[/URL]

On a local level, Democratic largest cities spend 40% more on the police and employ 75% more officers than Republican largest cities.

[URL]https://www.thirdway.org/report/the-red-city-defund-police-problem[/URL]

So what's so funny, again?

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2722262]Just to clarify, is it his ladyboy joke that gives you the giggles or the other stuff?

If it's the other stuff, what exactly is he wrong about?

Since Biden took office, the unemployment dropped from 6. 4% to 3. 6%. That's over 40% drop.

[URL]https://www.usnews.com/news/politics/articles/2022-04-01/bidens-deceptively-strong-economy[/URL]

And yes, the House Republicans DID vote to defund the Police. Why, you didn't know?

[URL]https://www.theguardian.com/media/2021/jun/28/chris-wallace-republicans-defunding-the-police-fox-news-congressman-jim-banks[/URL]

On a local level, Democratic largest cities spend 40% more on the police and employ 75% more officers than Republican largest cities.

[URL]https://www.thirdway.org/report/the-red-city-defund-police-problem[/URL]

So what's so funny, again?[/QUOTE]1. Covid, doofus.

2. Blocking a multi-trillion debt-rocketing, inflation-causing, nation-ruining, wasteful pork democrat kickback bill which had a couple of lines about cops does not equal "defunding the police" unless you are either a dribbling moron or a pathological liar.

3. And despite that, crime is still lower in Republican areas. Republican towns need fewer police because they have much less crime. The problem is, ahem, "democrat voters", if you get my drift.

Washington DC — In a bold move this morning to address the nation's financial woes, President Biden has officially called on the American economy to stop being bad.

"Come on, economy!" said an impassioned President Biden. "Make everything cheaper! Give everyone more money! I hereby demand you stop being atrocious! Do it. Do it now!

Pundits immediately lauded President Biden's brilliant plan, with MSNBC heralding it as the most transformative economic initiative since the New Deal. "Biden simply asking the economy to be better is nothing short of genius," said Rachel Maddow. "Economists are out there playing checkers, and Joe Biden is here playing chess, what with his clarion call to give everyone more money and make everything cheaper. Why has no one thought of this before?

President Biden also took the opportunity to speak directly to the struggling stock market. "I know people who used to have money in their retirement accounts are frustrated — which is why today I am also calling on the stock market to go up. Just do it, ok? Just make the numbers bigger! Repeat line, end of speech!

At publishing time, sources say inflation is still skyrocketing, a recession has begun, the stock market is still crashing, and it's all Putin's fault.

[QUOTE=ChrisP;2722207]Who writes for this guy? He's a comedy genius. Whenever I see an Eihtooms post I need to make sure I'm sitting down before I start reading.[/QUOTE]Yeah, I think it is comedy hour everywhere. You have Xpartan thinking the Dems are going to win in November on the economy and Republicans defunding the police.

Then you have Paulie saying open borders with the toxic amounts of heroin and fentanyl pouring through them are no big deal. The Dems are actually making the case here that those running for office should run on the border issue. No, really. For a bird's eye view of what is happening, there is a great piece here: [URL]https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/i-made-it-to-the-u-s-mexico-border-in-2022-before-biden-and-harris-did[/URL].

Then you have Eih saying this.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2722087]It is only about how someone wants to present themselves, which seems to be an inordinately high concern for people who should keep their busy-body noses out of it. As far as your plea to "Leave our kids alone", that is exactly what the movement to prevent YOU from pushing them away from whatever inclination they choose is about.[/QUOTE]Yeah, the running schtick on this was exposed by Matt Walsh. First, he wrote the runaway best seller Johnny the Walrus when a boy chose not to identify with gender but the identity of a walrus. Quite frankly, I thought the whole gay marriage rebuttal "I love my dog. Can I marry it?" was stupid. This Walrus stuff is not. In fact, in his movie, what is a woman?, Walsh finds a guy who identifies as a wolf and I was left to wonder, "Is anyone going to say that is not okay?" But the best part is when dumb Dems were asked the question "what is a woman?" and were not able to answer it. OTOH, an old timer, Africans living in the Bush, and Walsh's own wife amazingly answered it with ease.

On the serious side, the issue is men identifying as women being put up in women's prisons and raping women there. In Loudon County a boy who identified as a girl raped two young girls in the female locker room. Ironically now there is a a progressive woman's group, which has gotten a lot of crap for doing this, suing to keep trans men out of women's prisons.

And then you have PVM recounting Trump's gaffes. The gaffes were not Trump's finest hour but we Republicans do not even recount Biden's gaffes because we think they are not gaffes but dementia. The latest was Biden saying the oil that streaked his mother's car windshield gave him cancer. Back in April, that same oil residue gave him and 80% of the state of Delaware asthma. We have twice literally seen Biden try to shake the hand of a ghost, and it is almost like cruel to keep playing that tape back.

The media, which is suffering an all time credibility problem, is now admitting Biden's age is an issue and he is not all there as if he was when getting elected. No, the media was so obsessed with beating Trump, they propped up an old white guy with dementia, slapped a moderate label on him, and used him to get rid of Trump. Sadly, they gave no thought to our having a demented president in office.

So yeah, the Dems will be running in 2022 on the economy, Republicans defunding the police, the open border and fentanyl being no big deal, people being whatever gender or animal species they want, and the superior mental acuity of Biden. Talk about your comedy routine.

[QUOTE=Gino02;2722110]I (and I believe I can speak for we all the reasonable Republicans as well) truly feel sorry for brainwashed libtards like you who can't differentiate jokes from serious statements. This deficiency can be funny at times but seriously harmful for the society as people with such deficiency exercise their voting rights against their own good based on misunderstood statements, not based on the actual achievements, failures and strategies of the candidates.[/QUOTE]I (and I believe that I can speak for we all the reasonable Democrats as well) truly feel sorry for brainwashed RethugliKKKans like you who can't differentiate serious statements from lies. The Mango Mussolini [B]himself[/B] said that he doesn't joke.

Why is it that ignorant RethugliKKKans always say that every dumb statement that Hair Furor ever made (and there are hundreds of thousands of them) was a joke? Everybody with a brain (which, of course, leaves out virtually every RethugliKKKan) knows that he was serious when he said those things [B]because he said he doesn't joke[/B].

Keep on keepin' on, Ginny.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2722087]My opinion of the issue is right there in my posts subject line and the body of the post; what on earth difference should it make to you what gender anyone chooses to identify with? There is no push or expectation that a man choosing to identify with whatever trappings, body / chemical altering he wants, male or female, "changes" him into a child-bearing human with a real vagina. Or the counterpart scenario taking a natural born female from female to male gender identification.

The concept is "gender identification", not "miraculous transformation. " Seriously, no amount of surgery or chemistry will turn an male into a female or a female into a male to the point of the latter being able to impregnate a woman or the former birth a child. It is only about how someone wants to present themselves, which seems to be an inordinately high concern for people who should keep their busy-body noses out of it.

As far as your plea to "Leave our kids alone", that is exactly what the movement to prevent YOU from pushing them away from whatever inclination they choose is about.[/QUOTE][B]Busy-body noses[/B] says it all, doesn't it?

For some unknown (wink, wink) reason, the party of "Keep the government out of people's affairs" seems to be quite OK with government getting involved in people's affairs.

Same with the "cancel" thing. The QOP accuses Democrats of "cancelling" people and companies, yet they turn around and [B]cancel[/B] folks like Liz Cheney and Rusty Bowers.

If I didn't know better, I'd say that the QOP does exactly what they accuse the other side of doing, then lie about doing it. Kinda like their orange god.

[QUOTE=ChrisP;2722207]Who writes for this guy? He's a comedy genius. Whenever I see an Eihtooms post I need to make sure I'm sitting down before I start reading.[/QUOTE]Reading? I sincerely doubt it, Miss Chrissie. Certainly not "reading for comprehension" which you have proven time-and-time-again that you are utterly incapable of comprehending anything you read.

[QUOTE=ChrisP;2722223]ROFL, no, that was the entire point, which I proved correctly. JustTK aka the black knight claimed that communism was "a tiny enclave of 10% of the world".[/QUOTE]Again no. Your asserting things as fact without proof. People living under communism represented more than 10% of the world population (assuming I grant you those countries were communist). But that us not what I claimed. I based my claim on number of countries. Then you bent the facts.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2722351]Yeah, I think it is comedy hour everywhere. You have Xpartan thinking the Dems are going to win in November on the economy and Republicans defunding the police.

Then you have Paulie saying open borders with the toxic amounts of heroin and fentanyl pouring through them are no big deal. The Dems are actually making the case here that those running for office should run on the border issue. No, really. For a bird's eye view of what is happening, there is a great piece here: [URL]https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/i-made-it-to-the-u-s-mexico-border-in-2022-before-biden-and-harris-did[/URL].

Then you have Eih saying this.

Yeah, the running schtick on this was exposed by Matt Walsh. First, he wrote the runaway best seller Johnny the Walrus when a boy chose not to identify with gender but the identity of a walrus. Quite frankly, I thought the whole gay marriage rebuttal "I love my dog. Can I marry it?" was stupid. This Walrus stuff is not. In fact, in his movie, what is a woman?, Walsh finds a guy who identifies as a wolf and I was left to wonder, "Is anyone going to say that is not okay?" But the best part is when dumb Dems were asked the question "what is a woman?" and were not able to answer it. OTOH, an old timer, Africans living in the Bush, and Walsh's own wife amazingly answered it with ease.

On the serious side, the issue is men identifying as women being put up in women's prisons and raping women there. In London County a boy who identified as a girl raped two young girls in the female locker room. Ironically now there is a a progressive woman's group, which has gotten a lot of crap for doing this, suing to keep trans men out of women's prisons.

And then you have PVM recounting Trump's gaffes. The gaffes were not Trump's finest hour but we Republicans do not even recount Biden's gaffes because we think they are not gaffes but dementia. The latest was Biden saying the oil that streaked his mother's car windshield gave him cancer. Back in April, that same oil residue gave him and 80% of the state of Delaware asthma. We have twice literally seen Biden try to shake the hand of a ghost, and it is almost like cruel to keep playing that tape back.

The media, which is suffering an all time credibility problem, is now admitting Biden's age is an issue and he is not all there as if he was when getting elected. No, the media was so obsessed with beating Trump, they propped up an old white guy with dementia, slapped a moderate label on him, and used him to get rid of Trump. Sadly, they gave no thought to our having a demented president in office.

So yeah, the Dems will be running in 2022 on the economy, Republicans defunding the police, the open border and fentanyl being no big deal, people being whatever gender or animal species they want, and the superior mental acuity of Biden. Talk about your comedy routine.[/QUOTE]Nope, they weren't gaffes. They were lies. Plain and simple. Well, plain and simple for anybody with a brain.

And this statement is also a lie. [B]" In Loudon County a boy who identified as a girl raped two young girls in the female locker room.[/B] [URL]https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/28/opinion/loudoun-county-trans.html[/URL].

JFC, Elvis my girl, you do love your lies. Just like the Mango Mussolini. But Dems don't have to lie to portray all RethugliKKKans as morons because they are morons. And dumber than a box of rocks as well.

[QUOTE=PVMonger;2722397]I (and I believe that I can speak for we all the reasonable Democrats as well) truly feel sorry for brainwashed RethugliKKKans like you who can't differentiate serious statements from lies. The Mango Mussolini [B]himself[/B] said that he doesn't joke.

Why is it that ignorant RethugliKKKans always say that every dumb statement that Hair Furor ever made (and there are hundreds of thousands of them) was a joke? Everybody with a brain (which, of course, leaves out virtually every RethugliKKKan) knows that he was serious when he said those things [B]because he said he doesn't joke[/B].

Keep on keepin' on, Ginny.[/QUOTE]LOL you libtards don't have to feel sorry for us reasonable republicans. Check this out:

[B]Biden approval hits another new low as more Democrats sour on him, poll finds
[/B]

[URL]https://www.npr.org/2022/07/20/1112297499/biden-approval-hits-another-new-low-as-more-democrats-sour-on-him-poll-finds[/URL]

That's from your LPR (Libtard Public Radio). That was the POS you libtards voted for POTUS. Glad at least some libtards realized that they were wrong, though I doubt enough of them actually would learn what's right for themselves, like you and libtards on this forum.

[QUOTE=ChrisP;2722223]ROFL, no, that was the entire point, which I proved correctly. JustTK aka the black knight claimed that communism was "a tiny enclave of 10% of the world". That was clearly misleading. Point made.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JustTK;2722413]Again no. Your asserting things as fact without proof. People living under communism represented more than 10% of the world population (assuming I grant you those countries were communist). But that us not what I claimed. I based my claim on number of countries. Then you bent the facts.[/QUOTE]I love it when dumb and dumber fight.

Watching the videos of grand parades and crowds cheering for such leaders as Adolf Hitler, Benito Moussolini or Nicolae Ceausecu, one might ask, "do I like this, do I identify as a Christian Nationalist?" What happened to these beloved leaders? Two ended up suspended on slaughterhouse meat hooks. The other, took poison, along with his recent bride. Beware of someone who declares "I alone can fix it".

[QUOTE=ChrisP;2722223]ROFL, no, that was the entire point, which I proved correctly. JustTK aka the black knight claimed that communism was "a tiny enclave of 10% of the world". That was clearly misleading. Point made.

What is not immaterial is some points that you have been dodging lately. Here are a few:

Was Trump correct in telling the Germans that their reliance on Russian energy would put them in danger (while they giggled like the idiotic children that they are)? If yes, will you give him credit for his remarkable prescience?

Was Biden (or rather his handlers) correct to give the go-ahead for the Nordstream 2 Russia-Germany pipeline soon after being fraudulently installed (after Trump had blocked it during his presidency)? Were the handlers correct to block the XL Keystone pipeline and reduce US energy production?

What is a woman?

They'll do for now. Short answers please (hate to be the one to break it to you but nobody except you reads your turgid 2000 word diatribes. They are in fact how you gained the moniker PissVomitMonger).[/QUOTE]Oh, we all know where this is headed.

And to this day you wake up in a cold sweat of worry that you turned into a pregnant ladyboy walrus overnight thanks to those "far left" Biden policies that drove energy prices up 51% in the United Kingdom and Trump's Pandemic Supply Chain Collapse Inflation up 74% in Turkey.

So predictable.

[QUOTE=PVMonger;2722401][B]Busy-body noses[/B] says it all, doesn't it?

For some unknown (wink, wink) reason, the party of "Keep the government out of people's affairs" seems to be quite OK with government getting involved in people's affairs.

Same with the "cancel" thing. The QOP accuses Democrats of "cancelling" people and companies, yet they turn around and [B]cancel[/B] folks like Liz Cheney and Rusty Bowers.

If I didn't know better, I'd say that the QOP does exactly what they accuse the other side of doing, then lie about doing it. Kinda like their orange god.[/QUOTE]Cheney is a traitor to the people of Wyoming who voted her in. She isn't being cancelled. She is getting voted out on August 15. That is democracy.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2722351]Yeah, I think it is comedy hour everywhere. You have Xpartan thinking the Dems are going to win in November on the economy and Republicans defunding the police.

Then you have Paulie saying open borders with the toxic amounts of heroin and fentanyl pouring through them are no big deal. The Dems are actually making the case here that those running for office should run on the border issue. No, really. For a bird's eye view of what is happening, there is a great piece here: [URL]https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/i-made-it-to-the-u-s-mexico-border-in-2022-before-biden-and-harris-did[/URL].

Then you have Eih saying this.

Yeah, the running schtick on this was exposed by Matt Walsh. First, he wrote the runaway best seller Johnny the Walrus when a boy chose not to identify with gender but the identity of a walrus. Quite frankly, I thought the whole gay marriage rebuttal "I love my dog. Can I marry it?" was stupid. This Walrus stuff is not. In fact, in his movie, what is a woman?, Walsh finds a guy who identifies as a wolf and I was left to wonder, "Is anyone going to say that is not okay?" But the best part is when dumb Dems were asked the question "what is a woman?" and were not able to answer it. OTOH, an old timer, Africans living in the Bush, and Walsh's own wife amazingly answered it with ease.

On the serious side, the issue is men identifying as women being put up in women's prisons and raping women there. In London County a boy who identified as a girl raped two young girls in the female locker room. Ironically now there is a a progressive woman's group, which has gotten a lot of crap for doing this, suing to keep trans men out of women's prisons.[/QUOTE]68% of democrats think the economy is bad and getting worse. Obviously the other 32% are complete fools or have dimentia like Biden. Biden's only plan to beat inflation is to put the country into a huge recession. The idiots who voted for him are paying the price and suffering the most. Latinos are getting smarter. But several idiots are in denial. They just accept the fact that Biden policies are ruining the USA and driving millions of people into poverty.

[QUOTE=ChrisP;2722280]1. Covid, doofus.

2. Blocking a multi-trillion debt-rocketing, inflation-causing, nation-ruining, wasteful pork democrat kickback bill which had a couple of lines about cops does not equal "defunding the police" unless you are either a dribbling moron or a pathological liar.

3. And despite that, crime is still lower in Republican areas. Republican towns need fewer police because they have much less crime. The problem is, ahem, "democrat voters", if you get my drift.[/QUOTE]And yet, the murder rate is higher in Republican-controlled states than it is in Democratically-controlled ones. From the same source as the link you mentioned: "And sometimes, murder rates are highest in cities with Republican mayors.

For example, Jacksonville, a city with a Republican mayor, had 128 more murders in 2020 than San Francisco, a city with a Democrat mayor, despite their comparable populations. In fact, the homicide rate in Speaker Nancy Pelosi's San Francisco was half that of House Republican Leader Kevin McCarthy's Bakersfield, a city with a Republican mayor that overwhelmingly voted for Trump. " And "Trump-Voting States Account for 8 out of the 10 Highest Murder Rates in 2020. " [URL]https://www.thirdway.org/report/the-red-state-murder-problem[/URL].

I'm waiting for you to say that Thirdway. Org is "fake news" like you usually do.

And, by the way, your hood is showing. Maybe you should just admit that you are a KKK member.

[QUOTE=Beijing4987;2722242]Would it be "argumentative" to ask the White Nationalists on this thread to stand up and be counted?[/QUOTE]You expect members of the moron brigade to tell the truth? They'll just take the 5th like their orange god.

[QUOTE=Beijing4987;2722479] A leader cannot perform miracles. [/QUOTE]You mean like wipe out a virus? Yeah, I agree and how many dumb Dems believed it? How many times have we seen the dumb Dems blame all the American Covid deaths on Trump?

And when Biden did not get the results he wanted with mass vaccination, he pulled something out of the dictator hand book and blamed the opposition. "This is a pandemic of the unvaccinated. " And the NYT published this endless score of articles showing blue states did better than red ones. Bleech!

And all the shit that was proposed to work with Covid did not. The vaccines were the worst. First, the vaccine definition was changed. Then the claim was the vaccine prevented transmission. Yeah, that was not true. Then the vaccine prevented death. Not only was that not shown in the initial trials, the longest study conducted on the vaccine showed no death benefit so why was the vaccine mandated again?

[URL]https://www.clarkcountytoday.com/news/long-term-lancet-study-shows-vaccines-dont-prevent-death/[/URL]

"Among 74,000 trial participants, there were 31 all-cause deaths among the vaccinated and 30 among the placebo groups as of January. ".

Wow, we better immunize every fucking child in America with that kind of data!

When the news was blaring Covid every day, you wonder what Americans would have said the expected death rate was with Covid when offered vaccines. I guarantee you it sure as hell would not have been that low.

Thank God though, we did have a cure for Covid, the Ukraine war. And before that, there were the BLM riots. It was impossible to catch Covid when you went to a BLM riot.

And of course like Fauci before him, another blowhard "expert" this time Biden himself, Mr. Vaccinated x 5, comes down with Covid. You have to wonder what Biden failed to do. No mask? Lack of Purell? Did not social distance? Somebody around him coughed into their hand and not their elbow? Well, it had to be something. It is not like people catch Covid on their own. / sarc.

So yeah, I agree with you. A leader cannot perform miracles. And since we are on the subject of what leaders can and cannot do, WTF is up with climate change? Why do pols think they can change the climate any more than cure a common cold virus?

If I voted for Biden, I would be pretty pissed that we have had such a hot summer. I thought Biden guaranteed that every day would be 80 degrees and sunny.

But seriously, how the hell do you control the climate?

Those Sucommittee hearings really value having new, exciting, storylines for each hearing, to keep things fresh.

Within character.

[QUOTE=PVMonger;2722519]And yet, the murder rate is higher in Republican-controlled states than it is in Democratically-controlled ones. From the same source as the link you mentioned: "And sometimes, murder rates are highest in cities with Republican mayors.

For example, Jacksonville, a city with a Republican mayor, had 128 more murders in 2020 than San Francisco, a city with a Democrat mayor, despite their comparable populations. In fact, the homicide rate in Speaker Nancy Pelosi's San Francisco was half that of House Republican Leader Kevin McCarthy's Bakersfield, a city with a Republican mayor that overwhelmingly voted for Trump. " And "Trump-Voting States Account for 8 out of the 10 Highest Murder Rates in 2020. " [URL]https://www.thirdway.org/report/the-red-state-murder-problem[/URL].

I'm waiting for you to say that Thirdway. Org is "fake news" like you usually do.

And, by the way, your hood is showing. Maybe you should just admit that you are a KKK member.[/QUOTE]You are delusional, stop watching CNN.

CP's favorite economic media spokeman has come up with a great deeper analysi of the great replacment theory. Covers a lot of issues but is spelled out in simple language that even CP surely cannot misunderstand.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3-7fJX7m3M[/URL]

[QUOTE=ScatManDoo;2722592]Those Sucommittee hearings really value having new, exciting, storylines for each hearing, to keep things fresh.

Within character.[/QUOTE]Of course, had Trump spent every waking minute of his so-called presidency jerking off in the WH basement instead of what he did, he would not have produced nearly as much across-the-board damage to America, mass murdered nearly as many Americans nor posed as much clear and present danger to American Democracy as he and his supporters (virtually every Repub and / or Biden / Dem-basher) still pose to this very day.

Based on the ongoing sworn testimony of the scant few former Trump supporters and so-called Trump Administration staffers who snapped out of the Trump / Repub Cult lunacy long enough to recognize the truth of their prior America-hating malignancy, the only possible defence Trump might offer to weasel his way out of criminal indictment for what he did and did not do on January 6, 2021 and every day of his so-called presidency is to blame his deep cognitive impairment regarding ordinary words and phrases (oranges oranges, anominus anominus, Yo! Semite!) For misunderstanding that his pledge to "take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed" meant, you know, to actually "execute" them as in publicly killing them.

[QUOTE=ScatManDoo;2722592]Those Sucommittee hearings really value having new, exciting, storylines for each hearing, to keep things fresh.

Within character.[/QUOTE]What we see from these hearings is that there are some great Americans who are conservative, like Cassidy Hutchinson, and tonight, Sarah Matthews. But there's a different species infecting our society that thumbs their noses at our institutions, disrepects democracy, tries to steal elections with goofy, unproven conspiracy theories, gives comfort to our enemies like Vladimir Putin and often advocates violence. They don't belong here and the process of sending more to jail is very welcomed. And politicians that pander to these traitors for votes need to be shun.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2722351]
Yeah, the running schtick on this was exposed by Matt Walsh. First, he wrote the runaway best seller Johnny the Walrus when a boy chose not to identify with gender but the identity of a walrus. [/QUOTE]On the subject of tranny lunacy, if you want to see something hilarious (very offensive, but worth it), look up "Catboy Kami" on bitchute. You have to go to bitchute because all traces of him have been erased from youtube. Warning: do not watch if you're not an absolute savage.

[QUOTE=ScatManDoo;2722592]Those Sucommittee hearings really value having new, exciting, storylines for each hearing, to keep things fresh.

Within character.[/QUOTE]Majority don't care. All news channels are now showing that Jan 6 Protest hearing crap live in prime time trying to make noise against Trump, except for Fox News. Funny that Fox News has more than double prime time viewers than all MSM channels combined. More libtards waste time on this Jan 6 Protest instead of fixing the real problems of inflation and economy, more they are alienating the electorate from the party, except for few super fools on this forum LOL.

"It's not just Latinos and younger voters. Democrats are slipping among Black voters too. " -- CNN Digital, Harry Enten, CNN, April 27,2022.

([URL]https://www.cnn.com/2022/04/27/politics/democrats-biden-black-voters-midterms/index.html[/URL]).

[QUOTE=JustTK;2722413]Again BLABLABLA.[/QUOTE]Black knight, your assertion that 50 years ago communism was "a tiny enclave with 90% of the world against it" has been proven false. My work here is done. You can sit on the ground with no arms and legs trying to bite me, but it won't work. Good day.

[QUOTE=ScatManDoo;2722477]I love it when dumb and dumber fight.[/QUOTE]Says dumbest.

[QUOTE=DramaFree11;2722614]You are delusional, stop watching CNN.[/QUOTE]LOL. The perfect, succinct response to the latest torrent of PissVomit.

[QUOTE=JustTK;2722615]CP's favorite economic media spokeman has come up with a great deeper analysi of the great replacment theory. Covers a lot of issues but is spelled out in simple language that even CP surely cannot misunderstand.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3-7fJX7m3M[/URL][/QUOTE]"Oy veh, goyim! 50 years ago you made up 90% of the population of California, today you make up 40%, but you're not being replaced, and if you say you are it's hate speech and the ADL will get you fired! L'chaim!

[QUOTE=PVMonger;2722406]Certainly not "reading for comprehension" which you have proven time-and-time-again that you are utterly incapable of comprehending anything you read.[/QUOTE]Try re-writing that sentence with correct grammar. Ah, the irony.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2722566]If I voted for Biden, I would be pretty pissed that we have had such a hot summer. I thought Biden guaranteed that every day would be 80 degrees and sunny.

But seriously, how the hell do you control the climate?[/QUOTE]Biden can't control the border or his bladder, but he can control the climate? ROFL.

So why the long sour faces on all you QOP/Trumpsters?

Yeh...Okay!...I know, I know, [b]Session #8 (Jul 21st, 2022) of the Jan. 6th Hearings[/b] was a [b]crushing blow[/b] to the orange king and many of you out there in "Trump World", but not too worry, as I'm sure that special email will be coming soon, you know the one...let's all help [b]"Make Trump, President Again![/b]

So, just a quick reminder to all you loyal "Trumpsters" and cult worshipers to the Orange Throne, to pay your taxes (formally known as donating or contributing to the grift to the unwitting), and get your the orange king to run for the House in 2024 (and as a bonus hopefully escape prosecution from the DOJ).

Attached below is a reminder of said contribution email/forms, just in case you may have forgotten. BTW, no need to UNCHECK the box, we will just continue to fleece you with weekly/monthly withdrawals.

And remember, [b]UNCHECKING the box[/b] makes supporters [b]a DEFECTOR[/b] who has [b]sided with the Dems.[/b]

Which of course we all know, any self-respecting QOP/Trumpster would even think of doing.

[QUOTE=PVMonger;2722435]Nope, they weren't gaffes. They were lies. Plain and simple. Well, plain and simple for anybody with a brain.[/QUOTE]Well, the person you voted for only has half a functioning brain.

And this statement is also a lie. [B]" In Loudon County a boy who identified as a girl raped two young girls in the female locker room.[/B] [URL]https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/28/opinion/loudoun-county-trans.html[/URL].

I cannot read your link but this kid was found guilty and sentenced. [URL]https://nypost.com/2022/01/13/teen-sentenced-for-sex-attacks-that-sparked-loudoun-county-protests/[/URL].

[QUOTE=PVMonger;2722435]JFC, Elvis my girl, you do love your lies. Just like the Mango Mussolini. But Dems don't have to lie to portray all RethugliKKKans as morons because they are morons. And dumber than a box of rocks as well.[/QUOTE]This is the problem with dumb Dems. They think they are intelligent for voting a guy into office with dementia, and the only reason they voted for him was he was not Trump.

[QUOTE=DramaFree11;2722614]You are delusional, stop watching CNN.[/QUOTE]Here are other sources that show the "red state murder problem". [URL]https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/crime-rate-by-state[/URL] and [URL]https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/3274797-we-have-a-murder-problem-in-america-especially-in-red-states/[/URL] and [URL]https://www.insideedition.com/red-states-have-higher-murder-rates-than-blue-states-according-to-new-study-74227[/URL] and [URL]https://www.axios.com/2022/03/16/murder-rate-by-state-biden-trump[/URL] and [URL]https://www.salon.com/2022/03/16/democrats-for--but-new-data-shows-higher-rates-in-red-states/[/URL].

There are more sources. Here's one that just shows the state per capita violent crime rate Surely you are intelligent enough (well, maybe not) to know which states votes for the Mango Mussolini. [URL]https://www.statista.com/statistics/200445/reported-violent-crime-rate-in-the-us-states/[/URL].

Stop watching FUX "NewZ" and the other rightwingnut propaganda outlets. Just because they sweep stuff like this under the rug doesn't mean that people with brains (not RethugliKKKans) are delusional.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2722802]Well, the person you voted for only has half a functioning brain.

And this statement is also a lie. [B]" In Loudon County a boy who identified as a girl raped two young girls in the female locker room.[/B] [URL]https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/28/opinion/loudoun-county-trans.html[/URL].

I cannot read your link but this kid was found guilty and sentenced. [URL]https://nypost.com/2022/01/13/teen-sentenced-for-sex-attacks-that-sparked-loudoun-county-protests/[/URL].

This is the problem with dumb Dems. They think they are intelligent for voting a guy into office with dementia, and the only reason they voted for him was he was not Trump.[/QUOTE]Because the kid was sentenced is immaterial. Your contention was that the kid identified as a girl. He did not. [URL]https://nypost.com/2021/11/02/teen-convicted-of-sex-assault-doesnt-identify-as-female-despite-skirt/[/URL].

You are wrong. Again. As usual.

[QUOTE=ChrisP;2722688]Try re-writing that sentence with correct grammar. Ah, the irony.[/QUOTE]You still can't read for comprehension, can you little Miss Chrissie?

[QUOTE=ChrisP;2722683]"Oy veh, goyim! 50 years ago you made up 90% of the population of California, today you make up 40%, but you're not being replaced, and if you say you are it's hate speech and the ADL will get you fired! L'chaim![/QUOTE]Ah, yes, another "anti" diatribe from little Miss Chrissie.

Who wants to bet that some member of the moron brigade will say that the laughter about Joshie Hawley running for his "widdle wife" on January 6th is all "fake news"?

[QUOTE=Gino02;2722651]Majority don't care. All news channels are now showing that Jan 6 Protest hearing crap live in prime time trying to make noise against Trump, except for Fox News. Funny that Fox News has more than double prime time viewers than all MSM channels combined. More libtards waste time on this Jan 6 Protest instead of fixing the real problems of inflation and economy, more they are alienating the electorate from the party, except for few super fools on this forum LOL.

"It's not just Latinos and younger voters. Democrats are slipping among Black voters too. " -- CNN Digital, Harry Enten, CNN, April 27,2022.

([URL]https://www.cnn.com/2022/04/27/politics/democrats-biden-black-voters-midterms/index.html[/URL]).[/QUOTE]The blacks and there community is being destroyed by the Dem. Hopefully they will wake up!

[QUOTE=Paulie97;2722642]What we see from these hearings is that there are some great Americans who are conservative, like Cassidy Hutchinson, and tonight, Sarah Matthews. But there's a different species infecting our society that thumbs their noses at our institutions, disrepects democracy, tries to steal elections with goofy, unproven conspiracy theories, gives comfort to our enemies like Vladimir Putin and often advocates violence. They don't belong here and the process of sending more to jail is very welcomed. And politicians that pander to these traitors for votes need to be shun.[/QUOTE]The Secrete Insurrection Service.

This is so fucking outrageous. It is beyond reason and sanity. The would-be Assassin of the New York gubernatorial candidate Lee Zeldin was arrested, charged with 2nd degree Attempted Assault, and then wait for it, promptly released from jail without bail on his own recognizance.

What more evidence can we the people have to prove the insanity of the Woke Left Wing Democratic Party and all the individuals who support this madness and consider themselves "progressive"? For the cool aid drinkers there will never be sufficient evidence to change their minds. But a change is coming in November. Lee Zeldon now has a pretty good chance to win the NY race for Governor thanks to these rabid wokes now in office.

[URL]https://www.wsj.com/video/video-rep-lee-zeldin-attacked-at-new-york-event/F2E4CA2B-6B31-423E-85BC-BB59D2CFFED0.html[/URL]

Just wait.

[QUOTE=ChrisP;2722683]"Oy veh, goyim! 50 years ago you made up 90% of the population of California, today you make up 40%, but you're not being replaced, and if you say you are it's hate speech and the ADL will get you fired! L'chaim![/QUOTE]When was it 100% Indians and Mexicans?

[QUOTE=ChrisP;2722653]Says dumbest.[/QUOTE]You mean funniest.

[QUOTE=PVMonger;2722844]Because the kid was sentenced is immaterial. Your contention was that the kid identified as a girl. He did not. [URL]https://nypost.com/2021/11/02/teen-convicted-of-sex-assault-doesnt-identify-as-female-despite-skirt/[/URL].

You are wrong. Again. As usual.[/QUOTE]"The Smiths had described the boy as "gender fluid. " That was never raised during his trial, although the court was told he was wearing a skirt at the time of the first attack, in a bathroom stall in Stone Bridge High School. "

So he was "gender fluid" and wearing a skirt when he raped women in female bathroom stalls but he never identified as a woman? Yeah thanks for clearing that up. That makes things so much better.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2722802] ... This is the problem with dumb Dems. They think they are intelligent for voting a guy into office with dementia, and the only reason they voted for him was he was not Trump.[/QUOTE]Uhh? In a two (2) party political system, who would you suggest he vote for other than Agent Orange?

One could argue, that much in the same way way, you could have voted for someone else other than a con-man grifter, serial sex offender, cheating husband and serial tax evading fraudster. Yes?

[QUOTE=PVMonger;2722519]And yet, the murder rate is higher in Republican-controlled states than it is in Democratically-controlled ones. From the same source as the link you mentioned: "And sometimes, murder rates are highest in cities with Republican mayors.

For example, Jacksonville, a city with a Republican mayor, had 128 more murders in 2020 than San Francisco, a city with a Democrat mayor, despite their comparable populations. In fact, the homicide rate in Speaker Nancy Pelosi's San Francisco was half that of House Republican Leader Kevin McCarthy's Bakersfield, a city with a Republican mayor that overwhelmingly voted for Trump. " And "Trump-Voting States Account for 8 out of the 10 Highest Murder Rates in 2020. " [URL]https://www.thirdway.org/report/the-red-state-murder-problem[/URL].

I'm waiting for you to say that Thirdway. Org is "fake news" like you usually do.

And, by the way, your hood is showing. Maybe you should just admit that you are a KKK member.[/QUOTE]LOL, of course, large Repubs-controlled cities are CONSIDERABLY more violent than Dems', and every stat confirms it including his own link (gee what's wrong with these people, don't they read what they say? But let's not stop there. Out boy Chrissie is wrong 3 out of 3.

Let's refresh.

[QUOTE=ChrisP;2722280]1. Covid, doofus.

2. Blocking a multi-trillion debt-rocketing, inflation-causing, nation-ruining, wasteful pork democrat kickback bill which had a couple of lines about cops does not equal "defunding the police" unless you are either a dribbling moron or a pathological liar.

3. And despite that, crime is still lower in Republican areas. Republican towns need fewer police because they have much less crime. The problem is, ahem, "democrat voters", if you get my drift.[/QUOTE]Covid what? What about Covid? Is it over? No, it's fucking not.

In addition to Covid not being over, we're now having something we've never had before: the Great Resignation. People are leaving their jobs at at record-high rate, and yet, under Biden's administration unemployment is down by over 40%.

Last year, Trump budgeted over $150 million to hire cops and Biden wanted to boost it to almost $400 million. Biden is an old school law and order guy.

If there were any police defunding sentiments among more foolish progressive activists, they've never EVER materialized. The only thing these sentiments did was helping Repubs to build their false narrative.

Abd that "couple of lines" Chrissie is talking about is actually $350 billion for local governments. Most of which would go to the police departments to hire and train more cops. Every time Chrissie and his comrades don't like something they cry debt-rocketing. Sure, wasting $3 trillion on tax cuts performed by the Red-Rug Crook for his mega-rich buddies with no strings attached had nothing to do with debt.

Here is Chris Walles in his FOX days grilling Jim Banks to explain the Repubs actions and Banks trying (badly) to wiggle his way out of the question.

[URL]https://hinative.com/en-US/questions/16586983[/URL]

Washington DC — Hunter Biden's iCloud account was hacked by 4 chan users revealing all his personal texts, contacts as well as pictures and videos. In the fallout, truly shocking images of Hunter Biden are now being seen by the public — including photos of Hunter fully clothed and not smoking crack.

"That doesn't even look like him. Got to be a fake!" commented Twitter user John Kirk after seeing the picture. "Once again, they'll do anything to try to cover up the Biden's son acting up, thinking we'll fall for it again. ".

Experts have confirmed that the photos have indeed not been altered or fabricated in any way and that people are actually seeing real, although hard to believe pictures of the President's son wearing clothes, not doing drugs, and not surrounded by prostitutes.

At publishing time, 4 chan users uncovered that within 30 seconds of the photo being taken, Hunter Biden somehow managed to get fully undressed, fire up his crack pipe, and call President Biden so he can wire his prostitutes more money. . .

[QUOTE=PVMonger;2722844]Because the kid was sentenced is immaterial. Your contention was that the kid identified as a girl. He did not. [URL]https://nypost.com/2021/11/02/teen-convicted-of-sex-assault-doesnt-identify-as-female-despite-skirt/[/URL].

You are wrong. Again. As usual.[/QUOTE]The kid's mom was trying to make excuses for him by saying he went into the bathroom to have consensual sex with a girl. She also admitted that he wore a skirt and declared himself "pansexual" but that was just "a kind of style".

Both she, and you, are full of shit. As usual.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2722973]
Covid what? What about Covid? Is it over? [/QUOTE]The economic shutdowns are, doofus.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2722973]Abd that "couple of lines" Chris is talking about is actually $350 billion for local governments. Most of which would go to the police departments to hire and train more cops. [/QUOTE]It's a democrat bill so most of it would go on the usual horseshit like diversity training, critical race theory indoctrination, affirmative action quotas, green gibsmedats, kickbacks etc.

But even if it did all go to hire more cops, make it a separate bill and the republicans will vote for it tomorrow. Don't cynically try to fold it into your multi-trillion dollar nation-wrecking communist tranny faggotry bill, and then act outraged when sane people block it.

[QUOTE=Spidy;2722718] [b]Session #8 (Jul 21st, 2022) of the Jan. 6th Hearings[/b] was a [b]crushing blow[/b] to the orange king and many of you out there in "Trump World"[/QUOTE]No, it wasn't. Nobody except you far-left wackos is watching. Despite endless fake media spamming it everywhere, the ratings would make the WNBA blush.

It's actually a big win, in that it is showing just how little credibility and sway the fake media has left.

Very soon the traitors Kinziger and Cheney will be history, the de-RINO'd GOP will take back the Congress and shut down the Jan 6 farce, and real investigations will start into the Biden crime family, among other pressing matters.

[QUOTE=PVMonger;2722845]You still can't read for comprehension[/QUOTE]"Certainly not "reading for comprehension" which you have proven time-and-time-again that you are utterly incapable of comprehending anything you read. ".

Your sentence above makes no sense (factually or grammatically).

You could have written: "Certainly not "reading for comprehension", of which you have proven time and again that you are utterly incapable. ".

However the "of comprehending anything you read" is a separate clause, which renders the sentence incorrect as it stands because the "utterly incapable" cannot refer to both "reading for comprehension" and "of comprehending anything you read".

To correct it, you could write: "Certainly not "reading for comprehension", as you have proven time and again that you are utterly incapable of comprehending anything you read". This makes clear that the "utterly incapable" refers to the latter, not the former.

You're welcome. I'm always happy to assist those with special needs.

I don't normally call people out on grammar or spelling, particularly when like you they are writing through tear-streaked eyes at 4 am after three faps, ten red bulls and a week's worth of SSRIs, but given the subject matter (reading comprehension) it seemed apt.

You will be able to find remedial grammar classes at adult education centers near you. Best of luck.

[QUOTE=Spidy;2722965]
One could argue, that much in the same way way, you could have voted for someone else other than a con-man grifter, serial sex offender, cheating husband and serial tax evading fraudster. Yes?[/QUOTE]You are making my point. Despite all the personal arrows you shot at Trump, you did not even comment once on how he governed, and you dumb Dems rarely do. So I voted for Trump. I do not care for his personality but I liked how he governed. You did not vote FOR Biden. You voted against Trump. The fact that Biden was mentally incompetent and unfit for office to not even cross your mind. He was qualified to be president because he could beat Trump. Io.

[QUOTE=Gino02;2722651]Majority don't care. [/QUOTE]The prior prime time Subcommittee hearing got super-bowl like ratings numbers.

Even with Fox and your purposely ignorant cult tuning out, while jerking off to pictures of TrumpShit.

[QUOTE=Gino02;2722651]All news channels are now showing that Jan 6 Protest hearing crap live in prime time trying to make noise against Trump, except for Fox News. Funny that Fox News has more than double prime time viewers than all MSM channels combined. [/QUOTE]Fox "news" only has comparatively high ratings when only cable TV customers are counted.

A much bigger audience is gathered each night in broadcast delivered TV programs.

The broadcasted Fox-New's audience is teeny tiny compared to real news delivered by CBS, ABC and NBC over the air.

[QUOTE=PVMonger;2722841]Here are other sources that show the "red state murder problem". [URL]https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/crime-rate-by-state[/URL] and [URL]https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/3274797-we-have-a-murder-problem-in-america-especially-in-red-states/[/URL] and [URL]https://www.insideedition.com/red-states-have-higher-murder-rates-than-blue-states-according-to-new-study-74227[/URL] and [URL]https://www.axios.com/2022/03/16/murder-rate-by-state-biden-trump[/URL] and [URL]https://www.salon.com/2022/03/16/democrats-for--but-new-data-shows-higher-rates-in-red-states/[/URL].

There are more sources. Here's one that just shows the state per capita violent crime rate Surely you are intelligent enough (well, maybe not) to know which states votes for the Mango Mussolini. [URL]https://www.statista.com/statistics/200445/reported-violent-crime-rate-in-the-us-states/[/URL].

Stop watching FUX "NewZ" and the other rightwingnut propaganda outlets. Just because they sweep stuff like this under the rug doesn't mean that people with brains (not RethugliKKKans) are delusional.[/QUOTE]It's ironic indeed listening to them whine about CNN and the big three while they swallow hook, line, and sinker everything Tucker Carlson and Steve Bannon tells them.

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2722896]This is so fucking outrageous. It is beyond reason and sanity. The would-be Assassin of the New York gubernatorial candidate Lee Zeldin was arrested, charged with 2nd degree Attempted Assault, and then wait for it, promptly released from jail without bail on his own recognizance.

What more evidence can we the people have to prove the insanity of the Woke Left Wing Democratic Party and all the individuals who support this madness and consider themselves "progressive"? For the cool aid drinkers there will never be sufficient evidence to change their minds. But a change is coming in November. Lee Zeldon now has a pretty good chance to win the NY race for Governor thanks to these rabid wokes now in office.

[URL]https://www.wsj.com/video/video-rep-lee-zeldin-attacked-at-new-york-event/F2E4CA2B-6B31-423E-85BC-BB59D2CFFED0.html[/URL][/QUOTE]He wasn't a "would be assassin," he just told him his speech was over. Wink. There was no knife but brass knuckles with sharpened tips. Such is admittedly over the top, yet this Zeldin is hardly the sympthatic character with his election denying, conspiracy peddling, and active attempt to steal the election from the American people. He doesn't belong in America, and a run of the mill ass whooping (no brass knuckles) would probably do him some good. This is a right of passage, and sadly something many miss out on in their youth. It usually instills a bit of humility and common sense. For example I bet the very rude grandstander Rand Paul will think twice now before he mouths off to his neighbor.

P.S. Congratulations for writing your own rant and for a linking a source, bravo! And a pretty good one, the right-center WSJ.

[QUOTE=Paulie97;2723056]He wasn't a "would be assassin," he just told him his speech was over. Wink. There was no knife but brass knuckles with sharpened tips. Such is admittedly over the top, yet this Zeldin is hardly the sympthatic character with his election denying, conspiracy peddling, and active attempt to steal the election from the American people. He doesn't belong in America, and a run of the mill ass whooping (no brass knuckles) would probably do him some good. [/QUOTE][blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue]

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[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2723004]You are making my point. Despite all the personal arrows you shot at Trump, you did not even comment once on how he governed, and you dumb Dems rarely do. So I voted for Trump. I do not care for his personality but I liked how he governed. You did not vote FOR Biden. You voted against Trump. The fact that Biden was mentally incompetent and unfit for office to not even cross your mind. He was qualified to be president because he could beat Trump. Io.[/QUOTE]What was your favorite way that Trump "governed"?

Was it his decision to flush $2. 5+ Trillion down the shitter in his one and only "economic stimulus" legislation that did not improve GDP growth by so much as a single percentage point (he predicted 4%, 5%, maybe 6% annual growth from it. He never got 3% real annual growth) and produced at least a million FEWER jobs with it than without it?

Was it his reversing the decades' low illegal border crossings he inherited from Obama-Biden into a 12 year record high and later presided over a second spike in illegal border crossings just 3 years later?

Was it his skyrocketing annual deficits even BEFORE he created Trump's Pandemic in 2020?

Was it his Worst Economic and National Security decisions of all time by any so-called potus ever to Defund the CDC and pull all of the Pandemic Prevention and Response teams from those Chinese labs in 2018 against all expert advice and dire warnings not to do something so stupid and dangerous, followed by his spending the entire critical year of 2020 lying in sync with Xi about anything and everything that would most effectively and efficiently convert any likely manageable endemic viral spread in a specific region of China into the worldwide economy and Supply-Chain destroying historic disaster of Trump's Pandemic that it became and still is in all its variations?

Was it the mass murder of at least a million Americans and millions more around the planet thanks to those 2018 and 2020 Trump "governing" decisions? Or maybe the 10+ Million USA jobs he wiped out? Or the two Bear Market Declines he presided over including that Mega Bear one in 2020?

Was it his lamebrain Trade War with China that only produced a Recession in our Agriculture and Manufacturing sectors requiring Billions in welfare checks being given to barely keep them afloat? Again, even before critical Trump's Pandemic year of 2020?

Was it his very own Great Repub Recession of 2020?

Was it is his early "governing" decision to launch into partnership with Vladimir Putin to spend his entire foreign policy time helping his boyfriend trash America and its intel agencies, attempting to weaken and destroy the world's Western Democratic Alliances in order to smooth the way for autocratic dictators like Putin to prevail?

Was it his "governing" decision to create and promote his Big Lie in order to incite a violent, cop-killing Insurrection to attempt the overturning of a free and fair democratic American election and an overthrow of American Democracy?

There are so many impressive Trump "governing" methods and results for you to choose from it must be really difficult for you to pick a favorite.

And the beauty of it all is none of those things would have happened if Hillary Clinton's win of 3 million more American votes had been the deciding factor in 2016 instead of an appointment by Electors representing empty land than human beings.

The Generic Ballot consensus polls are now showing the previous Repub advantage over Dems dropping to a single (1) percentage point:

[URL]https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/generic-ballot/[/URL]

Yes, we all know those congressional districts are rigged in favor of Repubs from ridiculously extreme gerrymandering done by them and the Repubs will always have a Senate seat win advantage as long as tumble weeds in Red States continue to be more prevalent (and smarter) than the Repub voters in them.

But this trend is not helpful to the Repub dream of a Red Tsunami this November so they can be better positioned to produce another of their patented Great Repub Depression / Recessions, wipe out millions of USA jobs, Crash the stock market and slap themselves on the back for finding a brilliant solution to 51% energy inflation in the United Kingdom and 74% inflation in Turkey.

[QUOTE=Paulie97;2723056]He wasn't a "would be assassin," he just told him his speech was over. Wink. There was no knife but brass knuckles with sharpened tips. Such is admittedly over the top, yet this Zeldin is hardly the sympthatic character with his election denying, conspiracy peddling, and active attempt to steal the election from the American people. He doesn't belong in America, and a run of the mill ass whooping (no brass knuckles) would probably do him some good. This is a right of passage, and sadly something many miss out on in their youth. It usually instills a bit of humility and common sense. For example I bet the very rude grandstander Rand Paul will think twice now before he mouths off to his neighbor.

P.S. Congratulations for writing your own rant and for a linking a source, bravo! And a pretty good one, the right-center WSJ.[/QUOTE]Not even brass. " The attacker was wearing a "a 'plastic key chain' that is designed for two fingers, resembling the image of a cat's face. " Zeldin must be ecstatic -- there was zero risk involved and he got a hell lot of free publicity.

[URL]https://www.cnn.com/2022/07/22/politics/lee-zeldin-attacked-new-york-campaign-event/index.html[/URL]

Having said that, what the fuck? Zeldin is an unapologetic Trumpist piece of shit, but releasing someone who's just attacked a political candidate and on his own recognizance, no less? What the fuck is New York doing? Shoplifting is insane, people are walking into stores and openly steal stuff. A moron attacks a politician and gets released. One more year of this shit and people will start begging for Rudy V2.

"The midterm elections will test the sanity of Americans as our country is suffering under progressive leadership. There are no two sides to this story. The violent crime wave and the punishing inflation rate are both the result of far-left "leadership. " So is the open border disaster.

One wonders what an ad campaign for democrats would look like. "Vote for me if you want to go broke and become a crime victim!

Sound good?

Ardent liberals are pinning their faint midterm election hopes on abortion and climate change. But with working people getting hammered and the inner-city poor in actual physical danger, social issues will not obscure incompetence.

And sadly, for him, many progressives have given up on President Biden. It is over for him.

The only thing that might rally the left is Donald Trump officially declaring his candidacy for President. Maybe his slogan will be: "Grover Cleveland came back, so can I!

If Mr. Trump announces prematurely, democrats and their trusty media allies will make the November vote all about him in an attempt to obscure the real issues. That worked with Biden.

Right now, Mr. Trump is leading republican polling by a significant margin. He should wait to throw in with old Grover. ".

[URL]https://www.billoreilly.com/b/A-Test-of-Sanity/982977416656960795.html[/URL]

As doomsday approaches (November 8, 2022) the Marxist crazies are going to get even more hysterical than they usually are. Sorry boys, the party is almost over.

Bill Maher:

"And I just thought, you know, if Trump could just let go of the election (2020), which he can't, he can win this so easy because he can win just on Drag Queen Story Hour. " "Anybody could beat Biden. ".

DAMN STRAIGHT.

Maher then went on to say Gov. Ron DeSantis would be the better candidate. I agree, but DeSantis will not run if Trump runs. As a Florida resident I can confirm that DeSantis has been a great governor. But either way, Trump or DeSantis will be the next President of the USA assuming Biden does not step down from office after the November Democrat defeat and Camel Face becomes the interim President. I rate Biden leaving office for "health reasons" in 2023 at 50%. In any case the incompetent woke Democrat Party has got nobody. NOBODY! Let the hysterics begin. KKK /555.

[QUOTE=ChrisP;2722986]The kid's mom was trying to make excuses for him by saying he went into the bathroom to have consensual sex with a girl. She also admitted that he wore a skirt and declared himself "pansexual" but that was just "a kind of style".

Both she, and you, are full of shit. As usual.[/QUOTE]There you go again with your usual "I don't care what any source says, I know I'm right" horse hockey. You are getting quite predictable, little Miss Chrissie.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2723154]Not even brass. " The attacker was wearing a "a 'plastic key chain' that is designed for two fingers, resembling the image of a cat's face. " Zeldin must be ecstatic -- there was zero risk involved and he got a hell lot of free publicity.

[URL]https://www.cnn.com/2022/07/22/politics/lee-zeldin-attacked-new-york-campaign-event/index.html[/URL]

Having said that, what the fuck? Zeldin is an unapologetic Trumpist piece of shit, but releasing someone who's just attacked a political candidate and on his own recognizance, no less? What the fuck is New York doing? Shoplifting is insane, people are walking into stores and openly steal stuff. A moron attacks a politician and gets released. One more year of this shit and people will start begging for Rudy V2.[/QUOTE]The law needs to be tweaked some but in principle is a good idea. That's the idea of allowing those arrested for misdemeanors who are of minimal flight risk to get out on recognizance. As to the attack, it amounted to an arm bar take down that any professional wrestler would consider routine.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b51nYUJzO_g[/URL]

But given his past behavior and involvement in trying to overthrow the will over the voters one of these would have been more in order. Wink.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aj7WjLtquVM[/URL]

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2722973]LOL, of course, large Repubs-controlled cities are CONSIDERABLY more violent than Dems', and every stat confirms it including his own link (gee what's wrong with these people, don't they read what they say? But let's not stop there. Out boy Chrissie is wrong 3 out of 3.

Let's refresh.

Covid what? What about Covid? Is it over? No, it's fucking not.

In addition to Covid not being over, we're now having something we've never had before: the Great Resignation. People are leaving their jobs at at record-high rate, and yet, under Biden's administration unemployment is down by over 40%.

Last year, Trump budgeted over $150 million to hire cops and Biden wanted to boost it to almost $400 million. Biden is an old school law and order guy.

If there were any police defunding sentiments among more foolish progressive activists, they've never EVER materialized. The only thing these sentiments did was helping Repubs to build their false narrative.

Abd that "couple of lines" Chrissie is talking about is actually $350 billion for local governments. Most of which would go to the police departments to hire and train more cops. Every time Chrissie and his comrades don't like something they cry debt-rocketing. Sure, wasting $3 trillion on tax cuts performed by the Red-Rug Crook for his mega-rich buddies with no strings attached had nothing to do with debt.

Here is Chris Walles in his FOX days grilling Jim Banks to explain the Repubs actions and Banks trying (badly) to wiggle his way out of the question.

[URL]https://hinative.com/en-US/questions/16586983[/URL][/QUOTE]Besides being an outright hood-wearer, little Miss Chrissie is an "ID ten T".

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2722930]"The Smiths had described the boy as "gender fluid. " That was never raised during his trial, although the court was told he was wearing a skirt at the time of the first attack, in a bathroom stall in Stone Bridge High School. "

So he was "gender fluid" and wearing a skirt when he raped women in female bathroom stalls but he never identified as a woman? Yeah thanks for clearing that up. That makes things so much better.[/QUOTE][blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue].

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[QUOTE=ChrisP;2722683]"Oy veh, goyim! 50 years ago you made up 90% of the population of California, today you make up 40%, but you're not being replaced, and if you say you are it's hate speech and the ADL will get you fired! L'chaim![/QUOTE]I don't think you watched the video. He does accept that there are less positions in the work place for white Americans. The video is an explanation about the forces and decsions that brought it about. Profit motive / capitalism.

But you take specifically about demographics. The USA declared economic and often literal war on Latin America in the 1940's, as part of its "Grand Area" planning to maintain its position of economic and hegemonic privilege over the world. George Kennan (Head of State Dept) said in 1948:

"We have about 50 percent of the world's wealth, but only 6. 3 percent of its population. In this situation, we cannot fail to be the object of envy and resentment. Our real task in the coming period is to devise a pattern of relationships which will permit us to maintain this position of disparity. We need not deceive ourselves that we can afford today the luxury of altruism and world-benefaction. We should cease to talk about vague and., unreal objectives such as human rights, the raising of the living standards, and democratization. The day is not far off when we are going to have to deal in straight power concepts. The less we are then hampered by idealistic slogans, the better. ".

In 1945 Secretary of War Henry Stimson said "I think that it's not asking too much to have our little region over here which never has bothered anybody".

What no one within the ruling eltes seemed to recognise is the principle of you reap what you sow. Thats why there are so many economic refugess on your doorstep, bcos USA policy for the past 70 years has been to do everything to keep keep the poor Latinos down and take their resources and wealth.

... Even JOhn Boulton admitted to supporting/managing coups live on TV a week or 2 ago.

Why is it that [B]every time[/B] voter fraud is uncovered, it is some brain-dead tRUMPer doing it? [URL]https://news.yahoo.com/colorado-man-pleads-guilty-casting-232309961.html[/URL].

And yet the moron brigade still thinks Democrats stole the election when even FUX "NewZ" says otherwise? [URL]https://www.foxnews.com/politics/prominent-conservatives-election-lost-not-stolen[/URL].

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2723127]What was your favorite way that Trump "governed"?

Was it his decision to flush $2. 5+ Trillion down the shitter in his one and only "economic stimulus" legislation that did not improve GDP growth by so much as a single percentage point (he predicted 4%, 5%, maybe 6% annual growth from it. He never got 3% real annual growth) and produced at least a million FEWER jobs with it than without it?

Was it his reversing the decades' low illegal border crossings he inherited from Obama-Biden into a 12 year record high and later presided over a second spike in illegal border crossings just 3 years later?

Was it his skyrocketing annual deficits even BEFORE he created Trump's Pandemic in 2020?

Was it his Worst Economic and National Security decisions of all time by any so-called potus ever to Defund the CDC and pull all of the Pandemic Prevention and Response teams from those Chinese labs in 2018 against all expert advice and dire warnings not to do something so stupid and dangerous, followed by his spending the entire critical year of 2020 lying in sync with Xi about anything and everything that would most effectively and efficiently convert any likely manageable endemic viral spread in a specific region of China into the worldwide economy and Supply-Chain destroying historic disaster of Trump's Pandemic that it became and still is in all its variations?

Was it the mass murder of at least a million Americans and millions more around the planet thanks to those 2018 and 2020 Trump "governing" decisions? Or maybe the 10+ Million USA jobs he wiped out? Or the two Bear Market Declines he presided over including that Mega Bear one in 2020?.[/QUOTE]These continued lies that you post define the failure that you are. Easy to see why you can't afford to live in the USA.

[QUOTE=JustTK;2723268]He does accept that there are less positions in the work place for white Americans. [/QUOTE]Oh, he "accepts" it, does he, from his tenured university position with fat pension? Reminds me of that quote by the Lord in Shrek: "many of you may die, but that's a sacrifice I am willing to make". Can also be used for Zelensky and Victoria Nuland's attitude toward the Ukrainian goyim.

Leftists talk about illegals like the weather, or like a flock of migrating birds. "Oh, they just came because reasons". No, they came because our border is not enforced. Countries all over the world, such as Israel (of whose border policies I am quite sure this professor approves) have big, beautiful walls to keep out illegals who will destroy the demography, culture and economics of their countries. Why can't we have the same? To ask is to answer.

So pxxxx continues to attack me for posting a memo from Bill O'Reilly without quotes but in his dishonest fashion he ignores his boy Biden' Plagiarism history while running in past presidential primaries. Maybe he missed the link.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmuAB5MqP0Y[/URL]

He also conveniently overlooks fake Pocahontas's false job application when she deceitfully and knowingly claimed she was of Indigenous origins to land.

Cushy well-paid job at a "leading" university.

These are just 2 examples of his hypocrisy and lack of integrity. But we always knew what this guy is about: disseminating left wing propaganda and attacking anyone who challenges Party Dogma. I looked at his post history. It is all propaganda and personal attacks. There is not one trip report, not one bar or bordello report, and not one mention of shagging a girl or anything remotely connected to the sport of punting.

Compare his post history to mine and let me ask the sane members of this thread a few questions: whose experience and judgement on where to go to find sexy, young girls to shag would you trust. His or mine? Who would you rather go barhopping with in BKK, Pattaya, Jakarta, Sao Paulo, Rio, Manila, Macau or AC? And lastly, if you wanted to loot, riot and burn down some buildings who would you call up?

Smoothie forgot to mention the three hysterical meetings and tender love letters with Kin Jong Un. Lots of success on the diplomatic front with North Korea and numerous other countries that love the USA so much more because of Fat Nixon's awesome negotiation skills. Don't you just love the way he governs.

[QUOTE=ChrisP;2722991] ... It's actually a big win, in that it is showing just how little credibility and sway the fake media has left. ... [/QUOTE]Not surprising the unwitting cult faithful would think otherwise.

But more importantly don't forget to donate and [b]pay your taxes[/b] to the "Treasurer of the Orange Throne" and remember that so called "big win" of yours, can only be realize with a generous contribution the the 2024 run.

And [b]DON"T EVEN THINK[/b] of [b]UNCHECKING[/b] that weekly monthly contribution box, as we siphon every penny from your saving account, to aid in the "big win".

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2723004]You are making my point. ... [/QUOTE]Doubtful, since you didn't answer my question.

I'll repeat. The US has two (2) party political system. If he doesn't vote for Agent Orange (the con-man grifter, serial sex offender, cheating husband and serial tax evading fraudster) as a candidate for the US presidency, who else besides Biden, does he vote for? Got

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2723004] ... Despite all the personal arrows you shot at Trump, you did not even comment once on how he governed, and you dumb Dems rarely do. So I voted for Trump. I do not care for his personality but I liked how he governed. [/QUOTE]Yeah! If you like the "governing" of that a gangster / mob boss.

BTW, it has nothing to do with "personality" and more to do with not wanting to see a crook/con man/grifter as president.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2723004] ... You did not vote FOR Biden. You voted against Trump. The fact that Biden was mentally incompetent and unfit for office to not even cross your mind. He was qualified to be president because he could beat Trump. Io. [/QUOTE]Biden, mentally incompetent, maybe, but I doubt it, and that maybe more a medical condition. But what's Agent Orange's excuse for be just down-right fucking incompetent?

[QUOTE=Beijing4987;2723332]Smoothie forgot to mention the three hysterical meetings and tender love letters with Kin Jong Un. Lots of success on the diplomatic front with North Korea and numerous other countries that love the USA so much more because of Fat Nixon's awesome negotiation skills. Don't you just love the way he governs.[/QUOTE]North Korea stopped missile tests during the Trump administration, and resumed them when Biden was installed.

Russia took over Crimea under Obama, did nothing under Trump, then took half of Ukraine under Biden.

Trump had Afghanistan under control, no major attacks from the Taliban, and was preparing an organized drawdown of troops and the retention of Bagram airbase; Biden oversaw the worst humiliation since Vietnam, with Americans running away in the middle of the night without warning and leaving tens of billions in equipment for the Taliban as the fake Afghan govt collapsed like Biden on his stairs of his plane.

Trump got delinquent NATO members to start paying their agreed-upon dues instead of expecting America to foot the bill and go trillions more into debt as had been the case for years beforehand.

Trump had a hugely successful visit to Saudi Arabia early in his term, repairing some of the damage done by Obama, and ensuring cheap gas and high paying jobs for Americans; Biden has wrecked that, first saying he would make Saudi a pariah, then humiliatingly begging them to produce more oil, which they rejected. Now Saudi is moving toward China and away from its long relationship with the US.

So yes, we do love the way he governs.

[QUOTE=Spidy;2723373] If he doesn't vote for Agent Orange (the con-man grifter, serial sex offender, cheating husband and serial tax evading fraudster) as a candidate for the US presidency,
[/QUOTE]ROFL the bare-assed chutzpah of a democrat, the party of Bill Clinton and Jeffrey Epstein, calling someone else a con-man sex offender cheating husband. As for tax evasion, you can be sure that if Trump had done that he would have been prosecuted. You don't understand the difference between tax evasion, which is illegal, and tax avoidance, which isn't and which everyone with money does. In fact, you don't understand much at all.

[QUOTE=ChrisP;2723099]This report was redacted or deleted to remove sections of the report that were [u]largely argumentative[/u].[/QUOTE]Deleted for being "argumentative" in a forum for arguing about politics. Okay.

Just pointing out that the leftist who wrote the original post was advocating physical assaults on opposing politicians and applauding the release of a man who tried to stab a Republican officeholder. That is a widespread view among the left.

Meanwhile, they demand political opponents are locked up for being waved through open doors by police and walking peacefully through a building; and for telling Sandy 'AOC' Cortes she has a big booty that's hot like tamale. Oh, and for doing the same thing that Eric Holder and Lois Lerner did 10 years ago with no consequence whatsoever.

America: home of equality under the law.

Here's an important news story which will be buried by the fake news media in favour of the Jan 6 sanhedrin hoax: FBI fails to secure convictions in the Gretchen Whitmer kidnap case.

[URL]https://amgreatness.com/2022/04/08/two-acquitted-in-whitmer-case-fbi-misconduct-central/[/URL]

"In a huge defeat for the USA Department of Justice, a jury today acquitted two men accused of conspiring to kidnap Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer in the fall of 2020 and deadlocked on a verdict for two other defendants".

"Defense attorneys had argued—successfully, it would appear—that their clients were entrapped by the FBI; at least a dozen FBI confidential human sources and undercover agents working out of numerous FBI field offices were deeply embedded in the plot."

"Dan Chappel, the lead informant and government's star witness known as "Big Dan," explained how he brought the makeshift group of alleged "militia" members together after he was hired by the FBI in March 2020. Chappel created encrypted chat groups and organized excursions for field training and surveillance of Whitmer's cottage. (he, along with other FBI informants, posed as leaders of two "militia" groups, at least one of which was created by the FBI.).

For his work over a six-month period, Chappel, a truck driver for a USA Postal Service subcontractor, was compensated at least $60,000 by the FBI in cash and gifts such as a new laptop, tires, and a smart watch.

Fox lived at the time in the dilapidated cellar of a Grand Rapids vacuum repair shop with no running water or toilet; Chappel texted Fox at least 1,000 times between June and early October, cultivating a close relationship with the otherwise friendless and sparsely-employed outcast. On at least five occasions, Chappel offered Fox a $5,000 credit card, which Fox repeatedly refused."

There were literally more feds involved than "plotters". They literally paid a guy $60 k to bring a group of homeless doofuses together so the feds could create a fake plot and frame the doofuses, and the fake media and deep state could try and use it against Trump.

Absolute banana republic shit. It won't stand. Time to shut down the FBI and the rest of the Washington swamp and start again.

[QUOTE=Spidy;2723365]Not surprising the unwitting cult faithful would think otherwise.

But more importantly don't forget to donate and [b]pay your taxes[/b] to the "Treasurer of the Orange Throne" and remember that so called "big win" of yours, can only be realize with a generous contribution the the 2024 run.

And [b]DON"T EVEN THINK[/b] of [b]UNCHECKING[/b] that weekly monthly contribution box, as we siphon every penny from your saving account, to aid in the "big win".[/QUOTE]That boychik Chrissie is right. Media has no sway over a cult.

A crooked billionaire syphoning every penny from his brain-dead followers -- that's fitting. Go ahead, take them to the cleaners, Donnie.

Remember Trump University? People paid up to $60,000 to enroll in that fraudulent shit. That was 10-12 years ago.

But these morons who deify this piece of garbage even today when we know so much more about him (it?)???

Priceless!

[QUOTE=Spidy;2723365]Not surprising the unwitting cult faithful would think otherwise.

But more importantly don't forget to donate and [b]pay your taxes[/b] to the "Treasurer of the Orange Throne" and remember that so called "big win" of yours, can only be realize with a generous contribution the the 2024 run.

And [b]DON"T EVEN THINK[/b] of [b]UNCHECKING[/b] that weekly monthly contribution box, as we siphon every penny from your saving account, to aid in the "big win".[/QUOTE]Dumb suckers are happiest and most secure.

By remaining dumb suckers.

Read what they suck up here.

HaHa.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2723392]That boychik Chrissie is right. Media has no sway over a cult.

A crooked billionaire syphoning every penny from his brain-dead followers -- that's fitting. Go ahead, take them to the cleaners, Donnie.

Remember Trump University? People paid up to $60,000 to enroll in that fraudulent shit. That was 10-12 years ago.

But these morons who deify this piece of garbage even today when we know so much more about him (it?)???

Priceless![/QUOTE]I hate to do this. Xpartan, I think you are [B]wrong[/B]. Mind you I only object to one word: [B]billionaire[/B]. Trump has a long history of complete failures.

Trump Airlines, Trump Steaks, Trump Casinos, Trump University, Trump Vodka, Trump Mortgage. All failures. It is reported that he cheated his contractors and sub-contractors at every turn. Refusing to pay them unless they made every picayune change he wanted and then some more until they finally gave up and accepted some low-ball offer, so they could pay their employees and stay in business. In addition, the Trump Crime Family hosted charitable events and siphoned off the lion's share of the contributions for hosting the events.

He also cheated or filed bankruptcy on so many properties that US Banks refuse to lend to the guy and the only source of money he gets is from European banks that didn't do their homework. Deutche Bank if you are reading this you know who I'm talking about.

Why did he refuse to ever publish his tax returns? Because he claimed high property values in order to get loans and he reported large loses to not pay any taxes. This is known in the real world as financial fraud. I believe the NY AG is proceeding on a criminal case on these financial frauds.

So. [B]NO[/B] the only people who think he is a billionaire are drunk on the Orange Kool-Aid.

[QUOTE=Spidy;2723373]BTW, it has nothing to do with "personality" and more to do with not wanting to see a crook/con man/grifter as president.

Biden, mentally incompetent, maybe[/QUOTE]And the name calling continues.

You like $5 gasoline? You like the USA still being way short of oil production compared to what it was like under Trump? When Putin asked Biden if Ukraine was going to be in NATO, Biden did not answer him. Shortly after, the Russians invaded Ukraine. You like that?

And you voted for someone who is "maybe" mentally incompetent? Yeesh.

Spidy, are things better under Biden than they were under Trump?

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2723319]So pxxxx continues to attack me for posting a memo from Bill O'Reilly without quotes but in his dishonest fashion he ignores his boy Biden' Plagiarism history while running in past presidential primaries. Maybe he missed the link.

These are just 2 examples of his hypocrisy and lack of integrity. But we always knew what this guy is about: disseminating left wing propaganda and attacking anyone who challenges Party Dogma. I looked at his post history. It is all propaganda and personal attacks. There is not one trip report, not one bar or bordello report, and not one mention of shagging a girl or anything remotely connected to the sport of punting.

Compare his post history to mine and let me ask the sane members of this thread a few questions: whose experience and judgement on where to go to find sexy, young girls to shag would you trust. His or mine? Who would you rather go barhopping with in BKK, Pattaya, Jakarta, Sao Paulo, Rio, Manila, Macau or AC? And lastly, if you wanted to loot, riot and burn down some buildings who would you call up?[/QUOTE]Axel, I have been butting heads with Pauline ever since Covid came out. Pauline said that lockdowns cured Covid and the problem with Covid was Republican noncompliance. He continued the dumb Dem method of comparing states and countries to this day as if government policy was all that mattered with Covid.

Even though Sweden is #20 out of 28 European countries with Covid cases, Sweden killed people with its lax Covid policy. How? Well, you could only compare Sweden to European countries with less Covid. Comparing them to countries with less Covid was not acceptable. I wish I was making that up.

Thing is we know now that all the "experts" were pulling shit out of their ass with their lockdowns, sanitizers, masks ETC, but the worst was the vaccine. Pauline was all in on spewing hate towards the antivaxxer crowd. Oh yeah, red staters were killing blue staters with the refusal to get vaxxed. Biden said this was a pandemic of the unvaccinated last year. Of course, the 4 X vaccinated Biden has Covid now right after that fucker Fauci did.

Pauline does not want to debate Covid now that Fauci and Biden have had Covid. Hmm, I wonder why.

When Covid was going on, I cashed in on it. There were all these women out of work in 3rd world countries and unlike in the USA, they were not getting paid thousands to sit on their ass. I focused on Colombia and then when there was a travel ban, I griped about it. Pauline and the Medellin Dems, which might be the worst Dems there are, accused me of opposing the ban because I wanted cheap pussy over human life. Not kidding. Of course, there was no evidence the bans worked, and all the travel ban did was make Colombia even poorer. So I focused on Mexico, which may have had the most reasonable Covid policy in the world.

I met Dramafree, another Republican, in Monterrey, and we had dinner with our hot dates. So while the Dems were huddled in their basements scared of Covid, we were killing it.

When I mentioned I was using seeking arrangement and doing really well in Colombia with it, the Medellin Dems attacked me, seeking, and the sugar baby model. Pauline was the funniest. Instead of embracing being American, Pauline "dressed Colombian" to try to get his Colombian WGs to give him a lower price. In the mean time, with Covid, I was dating the finest women their were.

You will love this next part, AH. After Pauline spent two years in his basement scared shitless of Covid, he went back to Colombia. One of the cheap women drugged him with scopalamine and he apparently was in his drug induced state for hours. Again, this is a guy who brags about how to get women and how cheap he is. Instead of going for the white collar workers and university students I was, Pauline focused on the WGs in the slums and brags he sees slum women.

And he is so obnoxious that even Pauline's fellow Dems cannot stand him, and one outed him.

So Pauline will do a gang bang. Any time a Republican gets attacked by a Dem, Pauline will pile on. He is not here for learning about women (he "knows all" about that) but trying to make friends because he has none. He will lie his ass off and pull ad hominem attacks and then argue he is king of logic. It is hard to fathom anyone more obnoxious than him.

Thing with the dumb Dems is they are constantly doing the ad hominem attacking the source. If Fox news is off on something, it is fine to attack them but the dumb Dems will just say "Oh, Fox News", "Oh, Tucker Carlson" as if they won their point.

So yeah, I have left sources off too because I am sick of that crap. TC has had some very compelling points about the war in Ukraine, oil and energy, and the border. I think the Dems cannot handle those arguments so they just attack the source.

I have put Pauline on ignore before but now it is just fun to laugh at him once I saw what he was doing. He is the biggest liar here. Even though you have never met him, he will accuse you of never having been to Asia in your life. Just wait. It is coming.

[QUOTE=Canada;2723279]These continued lies that you post define the failure that you are. Easy to see why you can't afford to live in the USA.[/QUOTE]The prove he is wrong by citing actual sources.

But that's exactly what you can't do, is it, my ID ten t friend?

[QUOTE=Canada;2723279]These continued lies that you post define the failure that you are. Easy to see why you can't afford to live in the USA.[/QUOTE]Sure enough, Canadelvis can't choose a favorite Trump "governing" disaster because there were simply too many from which to choose.

And it did not go unnoticed that he / she could not cite even one positive Trump "governing" result by the end of his disastrous 4 year so-called presidency to at least partially offset one of his many, many disasters.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2723658]Here we go! Hey, Golfinho et al, why don't you publish the full member list of this little anti-Semitic league of yours where Jew-haters would always feel welcome -- right or left or however they want to slice it?[/QUOTE]He's too busy torching Sammy Davis Jr. Memorabilia the rest of today and tommorrow.

Concluding the German Schwarz month's festival.

There are 2 million Arab Israeli citizens currently in Israel or roughly 20% of the total population. Each of these citizens enjoys more freedoms and civil rights than the Arab citizens of Jordan, Syria, Iraq, Egypt, or Saudi Arabia, more freedoms and civil rights than Palestinians living in Gaza under control of Hamas, and more freedom and civil rights of Muslims citizens of Turkey or Iran not to mention the minority citizens of Turkey or Iran. So, why the double standard with leftwing woke fanatics? Well, we know why. The Jews are always to blame and that is Antisemitism plain as day.

[B]The differences between Trump's, Biden's visits to Israel[/B] - Jerusalem Post, July 22,2022.

[URL]https://www.jpost.com/opinion/article-712742[/URL]

"Biden's trip to Saudi Arabia similarly had none of the substance, and generated none of the good will, that Trump created five years earlier. The parties could not even agree upon what they had discussed, nor the significance of what had been achieved. And Biden largely came up empty-handed in his effort to increase oil production, a pathetic request given America's ability to increase its own. ".

[B]Trump Still Beats Biden in 2024 Rematch Despite Jan. 6 Hearings: Polls [/B]

[URL]https://www.newsweek.com/trump-still-beats-biden-2024-rematch-despite-jan-6-hearings-polls-1727393[/URL]

Unless, of course, there are even more election frauds in 2024.

[QUOTE=JustTK;2723589]Is that what you want of the USA?[/QUOTE]Yes.

And you know what? All the open-borders, diversity-is-our-strength Jews in American media, politics and finance want it too. For Israel. But not for America.

Go (y) figure.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2723686]Sure enough, Canadelvis can't choose a favorite Trump "governing" disaster because there were simply too many from which to choose.

And it did not go unnoticed that he / she could not cite even one positive Trump "governing" result by the end of his disastrous 4 year so-called presidency to at least partially offset one of his many, many disasters.[/QUOTE]OMG. Really? More Covid deaths under Biden than Trump. Economy is worse. Oil production is down. Afghanistan withdrawal was a disaster. Biden provoked Putin and caused Ukraine invasion (had Biden said that Ukraine will not be in NATO, there would have been no war). Risk of nuclear war is real now. GDP reading this week may show we are in a recession. Brandon has 30% approval rating lower than Trump ever had. World is now with food shortages. Brandon just issued an emergency executive order on climate change.

So I did not respond because Eih with you, every single speck of economic news is good Biden / bad Trump.

Because Biden has accomplished absolutely nothing noteworthy. You guys got nothing!

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2723498]Spidy, are things better under Biden than they were under Trump?[/QUOTE]I bet Spidy won't answer this without blaming Trump. That's what libtards do, instead of working to improve people's lives LOL.

[QUOTE=ChrisP;2723374]North Korea stopped missile tests during the Trump administration, and resumed them when Biden was installed.

Russia took over Crimea under Obama, did nothing under Trump, then took half of Ukraine under Biden.

Trump had Afghanistan under control, no major attacks from the Taliban, and was preparing an organized drawdown of troops and the retention of Bagram airbase; Biden oversaw the worst humiliation since Vietnam, with Americans running away in the middle of the night without warning and leaving tens of billions in equipment for the Taliban as the fake Afghan govt collapsed like Biden on his stairs of his plane.

Trump got delinquent NATO members to start paying their agreed-upon dues instead of expecting America to foot the bill and go trillions more into debt as had been the case for years beforehand.

Trump had a hugely successful visit to Saudi Arabia early in his term, repairing some of the damage done by Obama, and ensuring cheap gas and high paying jobs for Americans; Biden has wrecked that, first saying he would make Saudi a pariah, then humiliatingly begging them to produce more oil, which they rejected. Now Saudi is moving toward China and away from its long relationship with the US.

So yes, we do love the way he governs.[/QUOTE]Not only did Trump praise Putin for invading Crimea ("Crimea is better off now") he rewarded him by refusing to enforce the sanctions imposed on Putin for it until the Dems in Congress forced him to grudgingly do so anyway. Since then Trump praised ("How smart is that? Brilliant! Putin for invading Ukraine!

Anyone wondering how delighted Putin, Kim, Xi and every other anti-American, anti-democratic wannabe authoritarian dictator wannabe would be to see Trump or any other Repub in the White House along with at least one house of Congress controlled by Repubs rather than any Dem in the future? So nice. They get elevated to top tier world stage status, praised and rewarded for thwarting democracy, murdering their political enemies and doing whatever is necessary to weaken and destroy Western Democratic Alliance. Oh, without so much as ruffling the feathers of Russian oligarchs or shedding Russan / North Korean / Chinese blood.

He didn't want to embarrass Xi regarding the coronavirus that Trump laid the groundwork for allowing to spread unabated in the first place and thereby threaten that idiotic, American Recession-producing trade war so he lied in perfect sync with Xi until it produced every major economic problem the world has faced ever since. What a diplomat! Such brilliant "governance" and "leadership".

And if they're really cute, they will most definitely get love letters dripping with accolades from the Repub so-called commander-in-chief as a bonus!

Why would Xi, Kim, Putin or any other enemy of America object to the loving care, praise and rewards Trump bestowed on them as long as Trump was doing more to destroy the US economy, mass murder American citizens and, the literal coup de grace on his way out, overthrow American democracy with his very own violent mob of America-haters. Obviously, doing our foreign enemies' work for them.

But the Worse-Then-Neville Chamberlain appeasement (add praise, glorification and rewards to it!) didn't just stop with America's foreign enemies under Trump. He did the same thing with America and American-democracy's domestic enemies!

To White Nationalist Nazis vs the patriots who opposed them: "There are nice people on both sides."

To the violent, cop-killing mob of Trump-led Anti-America Insurrectionists: "We love you."

Of course, YOU and your fellow America-hating Repubs love that kind of "governance."

I've heard it said hogs love the way Farmer John looks away and hums sweet lullabies while he gently taps their butt with a stick to lead them to their own slaughter.

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2723223][b]Even Bill Maher Agrees[/b]

Bill Maher:

"And I just thought, you know, if Trump could just let go of the election (2020), which he can't, he can win this so easy because he can win just on Drag Queen Story Hour. " "Anybody could beat Biden. ".

DAMN STRAIGHT.

Maher then went on to say Gov. Ron DeSantis would be the better candidate. I agree, but DeSantis will not run if Trump runs. As a Florida resident I can confirm that DeSantis has been a great governor. But either way, Trump or DeSantis will be the next President of the USA assuming Biden does not step down from office after the November Democrat defeat and Camel Face becomes the interim President. I rate Biden leaving office for "health reasons" in 2023 at 50%. In any case the incompetent woke Democrat Party has got nobody. NOBODY! Let the hysterics begin. KKK /555.[/QUOTE]"Even" Bill Maher agrees? LOL. Good lord, where have you been? No pro-Repub Bothsider with a weekly program of mostly political punditry has worked harder than Bill Maher to help disastrous Repubs get elected over the past few decades.

BTW, "Anybody could beat Biden" except when Donald Trump didn't and lost by many, many millions of votes just 20 months ago and according to several hypothetical head-to-head "If the election were held today" polls, which fluctuate by statistically insignificant within normal +/-MoE numbers for Trump even given his "more beloved" out-of-office former president's advantage:

[B]Biden and Harris Would Both Beat Either Trump or DeSantis in 2024: Poll[/B]

[URL]https://www.newsweek.com/2024-odds-biden-harris-trump-desantis-1726687[/URL]

[QUOTE]Joe Biden and Kamala Harris would both beat the two favorites for the GOP nomination in 2024Donald Trump and Ron DeSantisin either hypothetical matchup, according to a new poll.

An Echelon Insights survey found that if the next election were being held today, voters would narrowly back Biden (46 percent) over Trump (44 percent), with the president also the preferred choice when up against the Florida governor (45 percent to 41 percent).

When those taking part in the poll said who they would vote for between Harris and the two Republican frontrunners, the vice president also came out on top.

A total of 46 percent of likely voters said that they would vote for Harris, compared to 44 percent who would back Trump in a hypothetical race. Harris also beat DeSantis by 43 percent to 42 percent, albeit within the net margin of error of 1 percent.[/QUOTE]For the most part, these poll of polls hypotheticals have to include a "save the day" demonstrably pro-Repub leaning polling service input from Rasmussen, Trafalgar, Emerson or all three of them in order to show Trump squeezing out a narrow win in them.

[QUOTE=Elvis 2008;2723498]And the name calling continues. ... [/QUOTE]

Dude, what are you talking about?

I have never called YOU (or anyone else on ISG for that matter) derogatory/vulgar names. Can you say the same? If am not mistaken, you love to throw around the word "douche-bag/douches". I'm pretty sure you must hold the record for the usage of this word on ISG.

So even though we are diametrically politically opposite and disagree on many things politically, I personally still hold a modicum of respect for you, enough not to call you, derogatory or vulgar names, like "douches".

Now Agent Orange, on the other hand is a totally different animal. You should know, [b]public figures are fair game[/b].

Besides that, I'm only repeating what he his been called in the press and media, or by ex-colleagues, ex-business partners, ex-lawyers, ex-administrators, sexual assault victims, ex-pornstars, ex-pussy grabbies and pundits have informed, reported, investigated and verified as the truth about dude's character, behavior, business reputation, integrity and conduct unbecoming.

[QUOTE=Elvis 2008;2723498]Spidy, are things better under Biden than they were under Trump? [/QUOTE] You've yet to answer my question. First things first!

Another memo from Bill:

"Not many are paying attention, but the reporting on the January 6 committee is as dishonest as the Russian-Collusion fiasco and the blatantly unfair Judge Kavanaugh witch hunt.

The committee's star witness, White House assistant Cassidy Hutchinson, testified under oath that President Trump lost control of himself after the Capitol riot began. Stunning charge.

The problem is her testimony is 100 percent hearsay. Nothing backs it up. The committee could have illuminated Ms. Hutchinson's allegations by subpoenaing the Secret Service agents involved. The committee did not do that and did not explain why not.

But I can tell you why the Secret Service wasn't called. The agents would have contradicted Cassidy Hutchinson, that's why.

And the committee didn't need to do the right and fair thing because the press has already convicted Mr. Trump on everything. Why bother with facts?

This is called corruption. Every American, including those who despise Trump, should understand the dishonesty, and be appalled by it. "

[QUOTE=ChrisP;2723740]Yes.

And you know what? All the open-borders, diversity-is-our-strength Jews in American media, politics and finance want it too. For Israel. But not for America.

Go (y) figure.[/QUOTE]Enjoy your prison camp.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2723795]OMG. Really? More Covid deaths under Biden than Trump. Economy is worse. Oil production is down. Afghanistan withdrawal was a disaster. Biden provoked Putin and caused Ukraine invasion (had Biden said that Ukraine will not be in NATO, there would have been no war). Risk of nuclear war is real now. GDP reading this week may show we are in a recession. Brandon has 30% approval rating lower than Trump ever had. World is now with food shortages. Brandon just issued an emergency executive order on climate change.

So I did not respond because Eih with you, every single speck of economic news is good Biden / bad Trump.

Because Biden has accomplished absolutely nothing noteworthy. You guys got nothing![/QUOTE]Great report, you forgot to mention, Bidden gets in a fight with the oil Executives, when gas was at it highest price ever and we our in a recession. What a clown.

On the subject of Covid how in the hell does both Bidden and Fauci get Covid, it just shows nothing will stop this crazy disease. , One of Trump biggest mistake was not firing Fauci.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2723498]And the name calling continues.

You like $5 gasoline? You like the USA still being way short of oil production compared to what it was like under Trump? When Putin asked Biden if Ukraine was going to be in NATO, Biden did not answer him. Shortly after, the Russians invaded Ukraine. You like that?

And you voted for someone who is "maybe" mentally incompetent? Yeesh.

Spidy, are things better under Biden than they were under Trump?[/QUOTE]There are many factors that go into the price of gasoline. One is that the US has a lack of refining capacity, much of which was caused by refineries shutting down during COVID and not reopening. US refineries are set up for refining heavy Saudi crude, not the lighter American crude. Do you actually believe that US producers would produce more stuff that can't be refined here would impact the price of gasoline in the US? [URL]https://www.spglobal.com/commodityinsights/es/market-insights/latest-news/oil/062122-us-refining-capacity-falls-to-lowest-mark-in-8-years-amid-record-prices-eia[/URL] and [URL]https://www.npr.org/2022/06/26/1107265390/refinery-shortage-high-gas-prices-russia[/URL].

In addition, please explain why oil production is higher TODAY than it was during the first 18 months of Donnie the Dumbass' reign of terror? [URL]https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHandler.ashx?n=PET&s=MCRFPUS2&f=M[/URL].

Once again, you are using "post hoc ergo propter hoc" (after this therefore because of this) analysis re: Russia's invasion of Ukraine. Russia already knew that NATO was a defensive alliance and nothing more. He just asked the question in order tailor his invasion message because he had already decided to invade. Maybe you believe Putin who continually says that the reason for the invasion is to "de-Nazify" Ukraine. What do you suggest? That the US should have preemptively attacked Russia BEFORE they invaded?

And BTW, [B]you[/B] voted for someone who not only mentally incompetent but was also a racist and a fascist and a homophobe and a xenophobe and a known liar and a known con man. Yeesh is right.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2723795]OMG. Really? More Covid deaths under Biden than Trump. Economy is worse. Oil production is down. Afghanistan withdrawal was a disaster. Biden provoked Putin and caused Ukraine invasion (had Biden said that Ukraine will not be in NATO, there would have been no war). Risk of nuclear war is real now. GDP reading this week may show we are in a recession. Brandon has 30% approval rating lower than Trump ever had. World is now with food shortages. Brandon just issued an emergency executive order on climate change.

So I did not respond because Eih with you, every single speck of economic news is good Biden / bad Trump.

Because Biden has accomplished absolutely nothing noteworthy. You guys got nothing![/QUOTE]Yes, really.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2723846]Not only did Trump praise Putin for invading Crimea ("Crimea is better off now") he rewarded him by refusing to enforce the sanctions imposed on Putin for it until the Dems in Congress forced him to grudgingly do so anyway. Since then Trump praised ("How smart is that? Brilliant! Putin for invading Ukraine!

Anyone wondering how delighted Putin, Kim, Xi and every other anti-American, anti-democratic wannabe authoritarian dictator wannabe would be to see Trump or any other Repub in the White House along with at least one house of Congress controlled by Repubs rather than any Dem in the future? So nice. They get elevated to top tier world stage status, praised and rewarded for thwarting democracy, murdering their political enemies and doing whatever is necessary to weaken and destroy Western Democratic Alliance. Oh, without so much as ruffling the feathers of Russian oligarchs or shedding Russan / North Korean / Chinese blood.

He didn't want to embarrass Xi regarding the coronavirus that Trump laid the groundwork for allowing to spread unabated in the first place and thereby threaten that idiotic, American Recession-producing trade war so he lied in perfect sync with Xi until it produced every major economic problem the world has faced ever since. What a diplomat! Such brilliant "governance" and "leadership".

And if they're really cute, they will most definitely get love letters dripping with accolades from the Repub so-called commander-in-chief as a bonus!

Why would Xi, Kim, Putin or any other enemy of America object to the loving care, praise and rewards Trump bestowed on them as long as Trump was doing more to destroy the US economy, mass murder American citizens and, the literal coup de grace on his way out, overthrow American democracy with his very own violent mob of America-haters. Obviously, doing our foreign enemies' work for them.

But the Worse-Then-Neville Chamberlain appeasement (add praise, glorification and rewards to it!) didn't just stop with America's foreign enemies under Trump. He did the same thing with America and American-democracy's domestic enemies!

To White Nationalist Nazis vs the patriots who opposed them: "There are nice people on both sides."

To the violent, cop-killing mob of Trump-led Anti-America Insurrectionists: "We love you."

Of course, YOU and your fellow America-hating Repubs love that kind of "governance."

I've heard it said hogs love the way Farmer John looks away and hums sweet lullabies while he gently taps their butt with a stick to lead them to their own slaughter.[/QUOTE[blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue]

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[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2723700]There are 2 million Arab Israeli citizens currently in Israel or roughly 20% of the total population. Each of these citizens enjoys more freedoms and civil rights than the Arab citizens of Jordan, Syria, Iraq, Egypt, or Saudi Arabia, more freedoms and civil rights than Palestinians living in Gaza under control of Hamas, and more freedom and civil rights of Muslims citizens of Turkey or Iran not to mention the minority citizens of Turkey or Iran. So, why the double standard with leftwing woke fanatics? Well, we know why. The Jews are always to blame and that is Antisemitism plain as day.[/QUOTE]You are on the right track with this, though there's plenty of anti-Semitism coming from the far right as well. In fact several of these are lurking around this forum. Why haven't you spoke up? Wink.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2723846]Not only did Trump praise Putin for invading Crimea ("Crimea is better off now") he rewarded him by refusing to enforce the sanctions imposed on Putin for it until the Dems in Congress forced him to grudgingly do so anyway. Since then Trump praised ("How smart is that? Brilliant! Putin for invading Ukraine!

Anyone wondering how delighted Putin, Kim, Xi and every other anti-American, anti-democratic wannabe authoritarian dictator wannabe would be to see Trump or any other Repub in the White House along with at least one house of Congress controlled by Repubs rather than any Dem in the future? So nice. They get elevated to top tier world stage status, praised and rewarded for thwarting democracy, murdering their political enemies and doing whatever is necessary to weaken and destroy Western Democratic Alliance. Oh, without so much as ruffling the feathers of Russian oligarchs or shedding Russan / North Korean / Chinese blood.

He didn't want to embarrass Xi regarding the coronavirus that Trump laid the groundwork for allowing to spread unabated in the first place and thereby threaten that idiotic, American Recession-producing trade war so he lied in perfect sync with Xi until it produced every major economic problem the world has faced ever since. What a diplomat! Such brilliant "governance" and "leadership".

And if they're really cute, they will most definitely get love letters dripping with accolades from the Repub so-called commander-in-chief as a bonus!

Why would Xi, Kim, Putin or any other enemy of America object to the loving care, praise and rewards Trump bestowed on them as long as Trump was doing more to destroy the US economy, mass murder American citizens and, the literal coup de grace on his way out, overthrow American democracy with his very own violent mob of America-haters. Obviously, doing our foreign enemies' work for them.

But the Worse-Then-Neville Chamberlain appeasement (add praise, glorification and rewards to it!) didn't just stop with America's foreign enemies under Trump. He did the same thing with America and American-democracy's domestic enemies!

To White Nationalist Nazis vs the patriots who opposed them: "There are nice people on both sides."

To the violent, cop-killing mob of Trump-led Anti-America Insurrectionists: "We love you."

Of course, YOU and your fellow America-hating Repubs love that kind of "governance."

I've heard it said hogs love the way Farmer John looks away and hums sweet lullabies while he gently taps their butt with a stick to lead them to their own slaughter.[/QUOTE]Every word of this is not arguable, and hopefully more and more Trump cultists will wake up out of their trance.

[QUOTE=Gino02;2723714]
Unless, of course, there are even more election frauds in 2024.[/QUOTE][URL]https://thefederalist.com/2022/07/19/nevertrumps-latest-attempt-to-dismiss-election-concerns-is-particularly-dishonest/[/URL]

Very good forensic article by the excellent Mariel Hemingway debunking the latest RINO / cuckservative attempts to legitimize Biden. These people really are a worse enemy than the left. It's wonderful that nobody believes a word they say any more. Not long till the acid test: Liz Cheney's primary.

[QUOTE=DramaFree11;2723943]Great report, you forgot to mention, Bidden gets in a fight with the oil Executives, when gas was at it highest price ever and we our in a recession. What a clown. [/QUOTE]The senile simpleton thinks if he shouts at gas station attendants to change the numbers on the board, prices will go down.

[QUOTE=DramaFree11;2723943]On the subject of Covid how in the hell does both Bidden and Fauci get Covid,[/QUOTE]How indeed, particularly when Biden said "you're not going to get covid if you have these vaccinations". [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QoBSTEFKmDw[/URL].

Just another lie the fake news media buries.

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2723911]The problem is her testimony is 100 percent hearsay. [/QUOTE]The problem is that Bill O'Reilly is 100% a jack off, a phone sex perv that foolishly indulged in his pitiful activity within his workforce. He obviously doesn't know what to do with a woman in the flesh.

That said, hearsay isn't useless. It's admissible in court under some circumstances and is often part of securing convictions. Plus two secret service agents backed up the meat of Hutchinson's story, that Trump demanded to be taken to the Capital. That shouldn't surprise anyone in the least.

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2723911]Nothing backs it up. [/QUOTE]What most needs backing up? It's well established that Trump knew what was going on at the Capital but chose to sit in front of the TV for three hours watching Faux News and jacking off like Bill. Anyone who doesn't want to talk about this as well as the shenanighans to try and overturn an election with slates of fake electors is a jack off like Bill and doesn't belong in the USA.

P.S. Why don't you broaden your horizons, read a range of news services rather then the ones that distort, omit, and only tell you what you want to hear?

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2723911]Another memo from Bill:

"Not many are paying attention, but the reporting on the January 6 committee is as dishonest as the Russian-Collusion fiasco and the blatantly unfair Judge Kavanaugh witch hunt.

The committee's star witness, White House assistant Cassidy Hutchinson, testified under oath that President Trump lost control of himself after the Capitol riot began. Stunning charge.

The problem is her testimony is 100 percent hearsay. Nothing backs it up. The committee could have illuminated Ms. Hutchinson's allegations by subpoenaing the Secret Service agents involved. The committee did not do that and did not explain why not.

But I can tell you why the Secret Service wasn't called. The agents would have contradicted Cassidy Hutchinson, that's why.

And the committee didn't need to do the right and fair thing because the press has already convicted Mr. Trump on everything. Why bother with facts?

This is called corruption. Every American, including those who despise Trump, should understand the dishonesty, and be appalled by it. "[/QUOTE]These leftists have become so unhinged by Trump Derangement Syndrome and fake media bias that they have literally lost touch with reality. This dumb **** Hutchinson, who like a typical woman was salty and butthurt because Trump refused to give her a job in Florida so she made up some fake bullshit to try and hurt him, was not in even in the vehicle. All the secret service agents who were in the vehicle flatly contradicted her story. The reason they were not subpoenad is because this Jan 6 show trial / star chamber / sanhedrin has nothing to do with getting to the truth, but rather is like the rest of the fake news media an instrument to attack the heritage American people.

In a just world the agents would have been subpoenad and Hutchinson tried for perjury. No doubt she would have claimed it was "her truth". LOL.

In a similar vein, one of the leftist doofuses on this forum just spewed a long post which claimed, among other lies, that Trump "didn't want to embarrass Xi and China" over covid. The reality is of course that Trump was calling it the "China virus" from very early, and banned flights from China, while the democrats and fake news were running interference for Xi, claiming that Trump was "xenophobic".

The reality was literally the opposite of what the dem douche claimed. And yet he will continue to claim it. We cannot have honest debate, or frankly co-existence, with people such as these who deny factual reality as above.

[QUOTE=JustTK;2723919]Enjoy your prison camp.[/QUOTE]The true face of the left. This is why we have the Second Amendment.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2723849]"Even" Bill Maher agrees? LOL. Good lord, where have you been? No pro-Repub Bothsider with a weekly program of mostly political punditry has worked harder than Bill Maher to help disastrous Repubs get elected over the past few decades.[/QUOTE]Damn it! I forgot to make sure I was sitting down before reading Eihtooms's latest comedy special, and now I think I've pulled a muscle collapsing to the floor in fits of laughter. You got me, Eihtooms! #comedygenius.

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2723911]The Soviet Era Show Trial..[/QUOTE]You can cut out the red baiting. Rofl Add that one to the long list of logical fallacies used here. It's not a "trial" but an inquiry as the American people deserve to know what happened. No criminal charges are forwarded or even recommended. It's no different than Watergate other than that Trump and his MAGAs make Nixon and his goons look like choir boys. MAGAs were invited to the party but rather choice to whine, play the victim as usual, and throw rocks from the sidelines. I'm sure you aren't even watching the hearings but are only recycling right wingnut propaganda from online. Pitiful.

[URL]https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Red-baiting[/URL]

[QUOTE=Spidy;2723878]Now Agent Orange, on the other hand is a totally different animal. You should know, public figures are fair game.

Besides that, I'm only repeating what he his been called in the press and media, or by ex-colleagues, ex-business partners, ex-lawyers, ex-administrators, sexual assault victims, ex-pornstars, ex-pussy grabbies and pundits have informed, reported, investigated and verified as the truth about dude's character, behavior, business reputation, integrity and conduct unbecoming.[/QUOTE]You can call him whatever you want, and I can do the same with Bill Clinton, but Clinton was a good president and so was Trump. Carter and GW Bush were much better character wise than either Clinton or Trump but were horrible performance wise. The fact that all you can do is call him names means that he was in fact good.

[QUOTE=Spidy;2723878]You've yet to answer my question. First things first![/QUOTE]You seem to want me to say you only had Trump and Biden to vote for so you voted for Biden. Well, you could have voted for a 3rd party candidate or not voted at all. I was so disgusted by the candidates in 2012 I abstained from voting. I thought Obama had reneged on his promises to clean up the banks and Wall Street after voting for him in 2008. That was a mistake though because he cleaned things up more than I thought.

[QUOTE=Spidy;2723878]you love to throw around the word "douche-bag/douches". I'm pretty sure you must hold the record for the usage of this word on ISG.[/QUOTE]Democratic douche is a term that I use to describe Democrats who turn off their brain and tow the party line. A person who voted Democrat is someone who respects the vote of someone else, and I respect them. A Democratic douche thinks those who vote Republican are stupid, amoral, crude racists. Calling Republicans RepuliKKKans means you are a Democratic douche.

It would be a douche move for me to compare GW Bush and Nixon to Obama and Clinton and say Bush and Nixon were better presidents. Similarly, it is a douche move to compare Carter to Reagan and say Carter was better.

[QUOTE=DramaFree11;2723943]Great report, you forgot to mention, Bidden gets in a fight with the oil Executives, when gas was at it highest price ever and we [B]our[/B] in a recession. What a clown.[/QUOTE]United States gas prices today dropped for the 41st consecutive day.

So, to help Dramafreak11 better understand:

We [B]"our"[/B] seeing results.

[QUOTE=DramaFree11;2723943]Great report, you forgot to mention, [B]Bidden[/B] gets in a fight with the oil Executives, when gas was at it highest price ever and we [B]our[/B] in a recession. What a clown.
[/QUOTE]You can't spell the President's name and you express yourself below the level of a 3rd grader. Why would anyone think your opinion is worth anything at all?

There is little wonder why this blathering, bumbling, seriously cognitively impaired loon and his America-hating Repub lackeys only produced the worst economic, national security and foreign policy results of all time (that Joe Biden and the Dems have been historically successful at resolving over the past 18 months) had to resort to demanding Repub state reps commit election fraud and set up "fake electoral college" documents and impostors along with inciting idiot Repub mob violence in order to overturn a free and fair election, overthrow American democracy and steal a re-election for himself:

[B]'Yesterday is a hard word for me: Watch Ex-US president Donald Trump struggles to read[/B]

[URL]https://www.livemint.com/news/world/yesterday-is-a-hard-word-for-me-watch-ex-us-president-donald-trump-struggles-to-read-11658574168402.html[/URL]

There is no way the "covfefe, oranges oranges, anominus anominus, Yo! Semite, Yesterday is a hard word for me" guy, his equally numbskull appointees and fellow Repubs could possibly produce anything but the across-the-board disastrous results they always produce or to even try to produce anything else.

With their America-hating lemming supporters, they don't need to produce historically posititve, Dem-level results. Not that they have the slightest clue how or interest in producing positive results for America anyway.

That isn't what Repubs do for a living.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2723686]Sure enough, Canadelvis can't choose a favorite Trump "governing" disaster because there were simply too many from which to choose.

And it did not go unnoticed that he / she could not cite even one positive Trump "governing" result by the end of his disastrous 4 year so-called presidency to at least partially offset one of his many, many disasters.[/QUOTE]Canadelvis had nothing to offer but an ad hominem. That's when you know you've made some effective arguments.

[URL]https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/ad-hominem[/URL]

[URL]https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/25/nyregion/nyc-monkeypox-vaccine-doses-denmark.html[/URL]

[QUOTE=ChrisP;2724082]The true face of the left. This is why we have the Second Amendment.[/QUOTE]It's just cheap and sleazy to say that when you've been embarrassed.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2723795]Biden provoked Putin and caused Ukraine invasion (had Biden said that Ukraine will not be in NATO, there would have been no war). [/QUOTE]You've been corrected on this lie dozens of times yet choose to keep repeating it dozens of times for months. Biden lacks the authority to do that. NATO has an open door policy and anyone is free to apply. That includes Russia. Putin knew his demands would be rejected, which all was a ruse anyway to give him an excuse to invade Ukraine and try to topple Kyiv. He didn't care about NATO anyway as he stated that he didn't mind Finland and Sweden joining. His design has been rebuilding empire as he stated many times in the past. He is 100% the aggressor and wasn't "provoked" by Biden or anyone else.

The love of democracy, something you have no respect for, is what provokes tyrants. Former USSR countries in his region tasted freedom, enjoyed it, and have asked for integration and protection. That's what Putin is scared of as he has nothing to offer but darkness and threats. He certainly doesn't want his own people desiring it, is why he controls the press.

As to Trump, hey, he was Putin's best buddy, undermining democracy with stolen election lies, looking the other way when Putin hacked our government agencies, grifting in Ukraine, jockeying to pull us out of NATO, destroying democratic alliances, sucking up to Vlad praising him to the press in a most pukeworthy way, etc. Naturally he didn't want to distract from all those goodies by invading Ukraine but it was coming.

Now, do as true to form, ignore all but one or two of these points. Pick one sentence out of context and go to town repeating your same lies over again. We are all used to it by now. LOL.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2724098]A Democratic douche thinks those who vote Republican are stupid, amoral, crude racists.[/QUOTE]Close:

All democrats and independents actually know this.

NATO's door remains open to any Euro country. They are free to seek membership. Giving in to a tyrant's demand to exclude one named country perpetually irrespective of any desires or future qualifications is ludicrous, betrays weakness, and most of all, violates the dictates of the treaty. No one president of a country would have the authority to change it. Not to mention that a slimeball like Putin would seize on this and bring further demands. And Ukraine offered a commitment to neutrality in early negotiations if confirmed by popular vote, but this was of course rejected. That's because Russia wants it all, Ukraine's industries, farmlands, and ports.

[URL]https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natolive/topics_49212.htm[/URL]

At little research goes a long ways, but few on the far right here have any desire and / or ability to do it. Thus all we get is a rehashing of Tucker Carlson's loud, Russo appeasing, treasonous mouth.

[QUOTE=Paulie97;2724165]As to Trump, hey, he was Putin's best buddy, undermining democracy with stolen election lies, looking the other way when Putin hacked our government agencies, grifting in Ukraine, jockeying to pull us out of NATO, destroying democratic alliances, sucking up to Vlad praising him to the press in a most pukeworthy way, etc. Naturally he didn't want to distract from all those goodies by invading Ukraine but it was coming.

Now, do as true to form, ignore all but one or two of these points. Pick one sentence out of context and go to town repeating your same lies over again. We are all used to it by now. LOL.[/QUOTE]I like how comrade Trump told Germany that it was inappropriate for a NATO Country to be energy dependent on Russia when the whole point of NATO was to prepare for Russia aggression and not give them billions of dollars and a pipeline.

Yes a good friend of Putin tells Germany that it needs to put more than 1% of it's GDP into NATO and not into Russia pockets making them richer.

Truly an ally of Russia if I ever saw one!

[b]Trump says Germany is "controlled by Russia" at NATO meeting by CBS NEWS[/b]
[highlight] Jul 11, 2018[/highlight]

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5MJEMHZZsI[/URL]

4 years later and we get this.

[b]Russia Has Germany 'By The Balls' On Natural Gas[/b]
[highlight]Jul 25, 2022[/highlight]
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gz2f8peN-4c[/URL]

[b]Why Germany is hooked on Russian gas[/b]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMiQeS1XywA

[QUOTE=Bearsi;2724187]Truly an ally of Russia if I ever saw one[/QUOTE]Trump decidedly is. Why did you choose to ignore all of these points? Do you not have any answers for them? I'll add one, Trump calling his top Vlad "genius" and "savvy" in his recent invasion of Ukraine.

[QUOTE=Paulie97;2724165]As to Trump, hey, he was Putin's best buddy, undermining democracy with stolen election lies, looking the other way when Putin hacked our government agencies, grifting in Ukraine, jockeying to pull us out of NATO, destroying democratic alliances, sucking up to Vlad praising him to the press in a most pukeworthy way, etc. Naturally he didn't want to distract from all those goodies by invading Ukraine but it was coming.[/QUOTE]As to NATO, Trump was telling his aids from the beginning that he wanted to move us out of the alliance. Each country decides for themselves what percentage of their budgets they spend on defense. NATO has no authority to tell them otherwise. This has been steadily increasing in Canada and Europe from 2014 onward. As to your Youtubes with Trump posturing about Germany and energy, yawns. There was pushback about the crowing for more defense spending in Europe, an old campaign talking point, so Trump goes with the whataboutism and the Russian energy pipelined to Europe which is a complicated historic matter that isn't solved overnight. The wean has begun though and at a substantial rate. NATO nations have never been stronger in their commitments to one another and against tyrants like Putin. Trump tried to weaken it but failed.

If you wish to answer my points, these and the ones I made previously I'll entertain it, but this is all the time I have for feeble whataboutism. He's a traitor that incited a violent insurrection based on lies and continually praised and gave comfort to our enemy Russia. There's of course more but that's the worst of it. Next step is to get him in an orange jumpsuit.

[URL]https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/02/28/trumps-effort-rewrite-history-his-support-nato-ukraine/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.politico.com/news/2022/02/23/trump-putin-ukraine-invasion-00010923[/URL]

[URL]https://www.factcheck.org/2019/12/factchecking-trumps-nato-remarks/[/URL]

[QUOTE=Paulie97;2724165]Naturally he didn't want to distract from all those goodies by invading Ukraine but it was coming.[/QUOTE]Glad we agree that Trump was successful to distract Putin from invading Ukraine, which is called "Effective Diplomacy."

[QUOTE=Bearsi;2724187]Truly an ally of Russia if I ever saw one [/QUOTE]Damn straight on that again! Trump truly is, is why Russia worked so hard for his election in 2016 and 2020. They obviously are much smarter than you. One YouTube out of context, Trump pronouncing Russia "ru SHA" where the aim is to mock Germany, not chastise Russia. He worked overtime sowing divisions in our alliances and was the laughing stock of Europe.

[QUOTE=ChrisP;2723376] ROFL the bare-assed chutzpah of a democrat, the party of Bill Clinton and Jeffrey Epstein, calling someone else a con-man sex offender cheating husband. ... [/QUOTE]I think Jeffrey Epstein was more of an equal party sex offender. But it's funny (but not surprising) how you lump him with (D) Bill "a blowjob is not sex" Clinton. I saw just as many videos / photos and reports of (R) Agent Orange also being at those parties as, Bill. I wouldn't be surprised if either one the ex-Pres. Or both had something to do with his so called "suicide".

[QUOTE=ChrisP;2723376] ... As for tax evasion, you can be sure that if Trump had done that he would have been prosecuted. You don't understand the difference between tax evasion, which is illegal, and tax avoidance, which isn't and which everyone with money does. In fact, you don't understand much at all. [/QUOTE]The NY Prosecutors/DOJ, may have something to say about that. Let's hope they have the manpower (and haven't been gutted like the IRS) and have the "passion of a progressive (D)emocrat", to prosecute/jail the orange dude. I doubt he'll go to jail, but I look forward to, the orange dude getting [b] "a good drubbing"[/b], from the NY prosecutors.

And those of us not of the "cult-faithless" or bamboozled by Agent Orange's scams, ALL KNOW tax evasion when we see it. The mere fact and unwillingness to provide his tax returns at the start of his presidency/campaign (as every other president before have done), tells you all you need to know about [i]"the grifter, that came to town".[/i]

No wonder the NFL owners didn't want him anywhere their business or a NFL team.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2724098]Democratic douche is a term that I use to describe Democrats who ... A Democratic douche thinks those who vote Republican are stupid ... Calling Republicans RepuliKKKans means ...

It would be a douche move for me to compare GW Bush and Nixon to Obama and Clinton ... [/QUOTE]Whoa! Now that was quite the ramble in douche-ary, from the professor with the M.Ed, from the school of doucheness. [i]Got to ask though, is that a degree from Trump University?[/i]

Thanks for the explanation in douche-ary...I guess? Yeah. I don't really care truth be known, it's a bit off brand for my type of tomfoolery. But I'm sure other Repub kinfolks will take notes.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2724098] ... Calling Republicans RepuliKKKans means you are a Democratic douche ...[/QUOTE]No not really! Personally I think it's just [b]a really very cleaver play on words.[/b] Much like the play on words, when you call liberal type democrats, "libtards". Got to admit "libtards" is pretty good, just not as good or creative as "RepubliKKKants".

Truthfully though, (or perhaps naively) I have always viewed they're usage, as playful terms of endearment. Now if there happens to be a bit of truth in either example, well. I'm not sure what to tell ya.

When the term "RepubliKKKants" is used, no I don't really go from 0 to 100 mph, thinking all Repubs are racist or KKK members. Just like when you call Democrats "libtards", I don't automatically draw the conclusion and think, Elvis thinks all Dems are retards.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2723498] ... Spidy, are things better under Biden than they were under Trump? [/QUOTE]As for whether "things are better" under Biden, well nothing has really dramatically changed for me. I just go about my life feeling better about a US President that isn't unhinged, madly ranting and twitting at the drop of hat 15-min. of every day and is actually putting in the work (and not at a golf course). Or isn't a grifter, crook or con man.

Just tough luck though, for Biden having to deal with a couple of DINOs in the Senate and a backward and regressive SCOTUS majority, determined to drag American back to the dark ages.

[URL]https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2022/07/25/kamala-harris-says-real-issue-america-women-getting-pregnant-every-day/[/URL]

Paulie97 in your vehement defense of the Nancy Pelosi's Jan 6 House Inquisition you omit the key fact in my post that the star witness, White House assistant Cassidy Hutchinson's testimony was 100 percent hearsay. And wait for it, within hours of Ms. Hutchinson's allegations, the Secret Service agents actually involved came forward and said what Ms. Hutchinson testified to under oath did not happen.

Now if this spectacle was really an honest, fair minded inquiry into what actually occurred on Jan 6 and the days leading up to Jan 6, you would think the committee would have subpoenaed the Secret Service agents involved and listened to their sworn firsthand testimony. BUT NOOOOOOOOOO, the committee did not do that and did not explain why the Secret Service agents were not called. But everyone knows why they were not called.

So, we can argue the semantics over what to call this disgrace, this soviet era show trial, this inquisition, but no fair minded American can call this thing an inquiry. That is why most Americans have tuned out and are not watching this disgraceful spectacle. They know the verdict was decided before the 1st witness was called.

"Judge and jury walk out hand in hand.

Dietrich movies, close up boogies.

Kissing * in Cannes.

Grotesque music, million dollar sad.

Got no tactics, got no time on hand".

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcH8C4vWvVw&t=41s[/URL]

[QUOTE=Paulie97;2724049]Every word of this is not arguable, and hopefully more and more Trump cultists will wake up out of their trance.[/QUOTE]Not hardly. RethugliKKKants have drunk so much KoolAid that they're pissing orange.

They believe every lie that is spread on FUX snooze. They believe the election was stolen. They believe that Chinese thermostats changed votes. Or was it Italian satellites? I can never remember which one that was. They believe that "2000 Mules" was the truth. They believe that the one-term, twice-impeached former guy was smart. They believe that Tucker Carlson is smart. They [B]do not[/B] believe that Cheeto Tweeto ever said that he loved the uneducated. They [B]do not[/B] believe that they are part of the uneducated even though they have proven that they are by their actions.

They have as much chance of waking up out of their trance as they have to get enough IQ points to decorate a domino.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2724098]You can call him whatever you want, and I can do the same with Bill Clinton, but Clinton was a good president and so was Trump. Carter and GW Bush were much better character wise than either Clinton or Trump but were horrible performance wise. The fact that all you can do is call him names means that he was in fact good.

You seem to want me to say you only had Trump and Biden to vote for so you voted for Biden. Well, you could have voted for a 3rd party candidate or not voted at all. I was so disgusted by the candidates in 2012 I abstained from voting. I thought Obama had reneged on his promises to clean up the banks and Wall Street after voting for him in 2008. That was a mistake though because he cleaned things up more than I thought.

Democratic douche is a term that I use to describe Democrats who turn off their brain and tow the party line. A person who voted Democrat is someone who respects the vote of someone else, and I respect them. A Democratic douche thinks those who vote Republican are stupid, amoral, crude racists. Calling Republicans RepuliKKKans means you are a Democratic douche..[/QUOTE]How about this, since you say that both Bill Clinton and Cheeto Tweeto were "good presidents".

Why don't you post actual sources (from the same non-partisan source) that back up your contention. That should be easy, right?

[QUOTE=Spidy;2724258]As for whether "things are better" under Biden, well nothing has really dramatically changed for me. I just go about my life feeling better about a US President that isn't unhinged, madly ranting and twitting at the drop of hat 15-min. of every day and is actually putting in the work (and not at a golf course). Or isn't a grifter, crook or con man.

Just tough luck though, for Biden having to deal with a couple of DINOs in the Senate and a backward and regressive SCOTUS majority, determined to drag American back to the dark ages.[/QUOTE]This is good. I applaud you that you're way better and more honest than most libtards on this forum who would in straight face lie that things are better under Burden than Trump.

You had to bring the discussion down to how it is just for you now as opposed to keeping the discussion at the broader level "is the country better under Burden than Trump", which we all know that it's way worse now.

In Trump's time, I agree we were bombarded with tweets, some pretty mean even for his supporters like me, but good thing was that things were getting done, US and international economy and peace were kept in a steady path. Some of us understand that how a man talks to me (mean tweets) is way less important than what he does for me (keep us safe from getting killed in wars or making sure we aren't getting into huge inflation or recession etc etc blah blah blah). It's the intelligence to figure out what's important for us and what we can ignore. Like I always say, Trump is no way the best possible POTUS, but compared to all other current choices we have (or had in 2020), he's probably the best. If a better candidate comes along for 2024, I would definitely vote for that better candidate, unfortunately Burden was never that candidate and never will.

It's all over, but Shit's shouting.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2724098]You can call him whatever you want, and I can do the same with Bill Clinton, but Clinton was a good president and so was Trump. Carter and GW Bush were much better character wise than either Clinton or Trump but were horrible performance wise. The fact that all you can do is call him names means that he was in fact good.[/QUOTE]LOL. Carter and Clinton produced results that are still among the top 3-4 best of all time, particularly on the critical issue of USA private sector jobs creation.

GW Bush and Trump produced across-the-board results that are among the absolute worst of all time. On the critical issue of USA jobs creation, perhaps only Repub Herbert Hoover had a worse record than either one.

But at least Hoover didn't also ignore the most blatantly obvious pending terrorist attack intel of all time and then compound that criminally negligent National Security botch by lying us into two counter-productive quagmire wars in the Middle East as GW Bush did.

And Hoover didn't decide to lay the foundation of any potentially deadly Pandemic to emerge and spread unabated, make sure it became one when the first predictable opportunity came along, lie in sync with our stated foreign adversaries to successfully mass murder at least a million Americans and cap off his historically disastrous so-called presidency by leading a violent, cop-killing mob of lemming followers to attempt the overturning of a free and fair election and the overthrowing of American democracy as Trump did.

Therefore, by comparison to GW Bush and Donald J. Trump, Herbert Hoover was a pretty good president. As were Charlie Manson and Jack the Ripper. By comparison to GW Bush and Donald J. Trump, that is.

[QUOTE=ScatManDoo;2724099]
We [B]"our"[/B] seeing results.[/QUOTE]Captain Pennywise strikes again. Hahaha.

[QUOTE=Spidy;2724258]As for whether "things are better" under Biden, well nothing has really dramatically changed for me. I just go about my life feeling better about a US President that isn't unhinged, madly ranting and twitting at the drop of hat 15-min. of every day and is actually putting in the work (and not at a golf course). Or isn't a grifter, crook or con man.

Just tough luck though, for Biden having to deal with a couple of DINOs in the Senate and a backward and regressive SCOTUS majority, determined to drag American back to the dark ages.[/QUOTE]So the massive increase in food and gas prices, the recession talk, the war in Ukraine, and the Covid debacle (which was cured by the war in Ukraine) have not affected you, but Trump's tweets did?

I am glad to see you have your priorities in life correct.

[QUOTE=JustTK;2724441]Captain Pennywise strikes again. Hahaha.[/QUOTE]Still feeling burnt JuskTK?

Today the most reputable and reliable poll of polls service shows Repubs with less than a single percent advantage over Dems on their Generic Ballot question.

At only 0. 7%.

[URL]https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/generic-ballot/[/URL]

That is a "falling off the cliff" level of decline for Repubs in just a few weeks.

Considering they have two huge historic advantages this time around in that it is the first midterm of a POTUS from the other Party as well as the first midterm after the Dem POTUS and (nominal) majority passed truly historic legislation destined to become revered and virtually untouchable as the basis for what makes America great (Dems are always punished for this in the next midterm due to Repubs launching full force into demonizing the Dems' historically positive accomplishment), this midterm ought to be an easy Red wave for Repubs and a big one.

But their disastrous recent and historic results combined with their astonishing level of anti American, anti Freedom, anti Democracy, BIG Government Authoritarian Dictatorship Love is making it way more difficult for them than it ought to be.

Then again, their hatred for America and democracy has meant they are only busy installing QAnon Repub loons in positions to throw out ballots with votes they don't like all around the country. So I suppose it won't matter how godawful they do in the election.

[B]Hard times ahead: How Biden and the Fed are driving America into a recession - USA Today - July 26th 2022[/B]

[URL]https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/hard-times-ahead-how-biden-and-the-fed-are-driving-america-into-a-recession/ar-AAZYTyW[/URL]

[B]Biden just took a page out of Trump's vaccine playbook to solve gas price problems - Business Insider, July 26th 2022[/B]

[URL]https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/biden-just-took-a-page-out-of-trump-s-vaccine-playbook-to-solve-gas-price-problems/ar-AA1005pM[/URL]

If Burden simply kept copying what Trump was doing for us, we wouldn't be in such a dipshit situation. But still, better late than never. We know Burden won't give credit to Trump for the strategies, but at least started following now. Good.

[B]Chicago Mayor Lightfoot refusing to pay speeding, red light tickets as they pile up: Report - Fox News, July 26th 2022[/B]

[URL]https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/chicago-mayor-lightfoot-refusing-to-pay-speeding-red-light-tickets-as-they-pile-up-report/ar-AA1003qp[/URL]

Sadly, this is the main problem.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2724616]Today the most reputable and reliable poll of polls service shows Repubs with less than a single percent advantage over Dems on their Generic Ballot question.

At only 0. 7%.

[URL]https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/generic-ballot/[/URL]

That is a "falling off the cliff" level of decline for Repubs in just a few weeks.

Considering they have two huge historic advantages this time around in that it is the first midterm of a POTUS from the other Party as well as the first midterm after the Dem POTUS and (nominal) majority passed truly historic legislation destined to become revered and virtually untouchable as the basis for what makes America great (Dems are always punished for this in the next midterm due to Repubs launching full force into demonizing the Dems' historically positive accomplishment), this midterm ought to be an easy Red wave for Repubs and a big one.

But their disastrous recent and historic results combined with their astonishing level of anti American, anti Freedom, anti Democracy, BIG Government Authoritarian Dictatorship Love is making it way more difficult for them than it ought to be.

Then again, their hatred for America and democracy has meant they are only busy installing QAnon Repub loons in positions to throw out ballots with votes they don't like all around the country. So I suppose it won't matter how godawful they do in the election.[/QUOTE]Repubs are thriving when economy is in tatters. No, they won't do shit for economy, but they're great at 'xplaining how Dems are to blame when economy is in tatters.

Expensive gas is good for Repub. Cheap gas is bad for Repubs. Cheap gas distracts people from voting right. As in ultra-right.

I guess, Trump could help. He could beg Russia to do something about gas.

Like, I don't know.

Russia, if you're listening.

I hope you're able to find a way to give us some economic pain.

$6 per gallon would be fantastic.

Can't you keep invading? Why stop at Ukraine? The more the merrier.

There're so many "Stans" in your neighborhood, you know, worth invading. It would be genius!

I think you will probably be rewarded mightily for your kindness.

Let's see if that happens. Chop-chop.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2724676]Repubs are thriving when economy is in tatters. No, they won't do shit for economy, but they're great at 'xplaining how Dems are to blame when economy is in tatters.

Expensive gas is good for Repub. Cheap gas is bad for Repubs. Cheap gas distracts people from voting right. As in ultra-right.

I guess, Trump could help. He could beg Russia to do something about gas.

Like, I don't know.

Russia, if you're listening.

I hope you're able to find a way to give us some economic pain.

$6 per gallon would be fantastic.

Can't you keep invading? Why stop at Ukraine? The more the merrier.

There're so many "Stans" in your neighborhood, you know, worth invading. It would be genius!

I think you will probably be rewarded mightily for your kindness.

Let's see if that happens. Chop-chop.[/QUOTE]Repubs don't need the economy to be "in tatters" under Dem stewardship in order to falsely declare, "The economy is in tatters under Dems"!

First of all, it has been more than 100 years since the USA economy could have been remotely described accurately as being "in tatters" under Dem stewardship.

Today's USA economy is not "in tatters. " Far from it. It is so strong under Biden and Dem stewardship, even Trump's Pandemic Supply-Chain Destruction Inflation has barely put a dent in consumer spending, not caused so much as a hiccup in Dem Biden's historic jobs creation or caused Dem Biden's record fast decline in the unemployment rate to tick up a mere point.

It is even doubtful that the official arbiter of "recessions", the NBER, will designate this point in time as a "recession" even if the GDP Growth rate contracted a tad last quarter:

[B]Here's how to know if we're in a recession, and it's not what you think.[/B]

[URL]https://www.cnbc.com/2022/07/26/heres-how-to-know-if-were-in-a-recession-and-its-not-what-you-think.html?__source=androidappshare[/URL]

[QUOTE]Most people think that back-to-back negative GDP quarters constitute a recession, but thats not the case.

The National Bureau of Economic Research is the official arbiter of recessions, and uses multiple other factors in making its determination.

The NBER would be laughingstocks if they said we had a recession when we were creating 400,000 jobs a month, said Dean Baker, co-founder of the Center for Economic and Policy Research.[/QUOTE]So whenever anyone alive today ever heard Repubs or their loyal and devoted benefactors and election campaigners in Mainstream Media declaring "The economy is in tatters!" due to Dems being at the helm, they were lying.

Now, to cite when the USA economy was truly "in tatters" under and due to Repubs, one only has to look at the Repub Trump to Dem Biden handoff just 18 months ago.

And the Repub GW Bush handoff to Dem Obama-Biden 12 years prior to that.

And the Repub GHW Bush handoff to Dem Bill Clinton 8 years before that.

And so on.

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2724308]Paulie97 in your vehement defense of the Nancy Pelosi's Jan 6 House Inquisition you omit the key fact in my post that the star witness, White House assistant Cassidy Hutchinson's testimony was 100 percent hearsay. And wait for it, within hours of Ms. Hutchinson's allegations, the Secret Service agents actually involved came forward and said what Ms. Hutchinson testified to under oath did not happen.

Now if this spectacle was really an honest, fair minded inquiry into what actually occurred on Jan 6 and the days leading up to Jan 6, you would think the committee would have subpoenaed the Secret Service agents involved and listened to their sworn firsthand testimony. BUT NOOOOOOOOOO, the committee did not do that and did not explain why the Secret Service agents were not called. But everyone knows why they were not called.

So, we can argue the semantics over what to call this disgrace, this soviet era show trial, this inquisition, but no fair minded American can call this thing an inquiry. That is why most Americans have tuned out and are not watching this disgraceful spectacle. They know the verdict was decided before the 1st witness was called.

"Judge and jury walk out hand in hand.

Dietrich movies, close up boogies.

Kissing * in Cannes.

Grotesque music, million dollar sad.

Got no tactics, got no time on hand".

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcH8C4vWvVw&t=41s[/URL][/QUOTE]Hutchinson's testimony was 100% hearsay? Not even close.

First, hearsay only applies to a trial. Are the hearings a trial? Nope. So I call BS on your statement for that reason alone.

Need more proof? How about this: [URL]https://lawandcrime.com/jan-6-committee/house-judiciary-gop-claimed-mark-meadows-aides-blockbuster-testimony-was-literally-all-hearsay-evidence-the-truth-is-more-complicated/[/URL] or [URL]https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2022/06/28/cassidy-hutchinson-jan-6-testimony-00042985[/URL].

But you'll just call it "fake news" because that's what "FUX snooze" says it is, right?

[QUOTE=Gino02;2724641][B]Biden just took a page out of Trump's vaccine playbook to solve gas price problems - Business Insider, July 26th 2022[/B]

[URL]https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/biden-just-took-a-page-out-of-trump-s-vaccine-playbook-to-solve-gas-price-problems/ar-AA1005pM[/URL]

If Burden simply kept copying what Trump was doing for us, we wouldn't be in such a dipshit situation. But still, better late than never. We know Burden won't give credit to Trump for the strategies, but at least started following now. Good.[/QUOTE]Where is the part where Biden defunds the CDC and pulls all the Pandemic Prevention and Response teams out of those Chinese labs against all expert warnings not to do something so stupid and dangerous then compounds that idiocy by publicly lying for a critical year in exactly the way a World Leader would need to do in order to produce a deadly Pandemic that requires extraordinary measures to create vaccines for it, mass murder millions around the world, wipe out millions upon millions of jobs, destroy global supply-chains, requiring years long closures triggering hyper-inflation on the recovery etc, etc, etc?

I didn't read that Biden did anything like all those things Trump did in your link.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2724481]So the massive increase in food and gas prices, the recession talk, the war in Ukraine, and the Covid debacle (which was cured by the war in Ukraine) have not affected you, but Trump's tweets did?

I am glad to see you have your priorities in life correct.[/QUOTE]You forgot to mention a massive increase in violent crimes, totally unacceptable. The drug problem is out of control and at an all time high, but let's ignore the problem and hope it just goes away.

Meanwhile they are still obsessed with Trump and Russia. Russia is is a minor issue, they real problem is China.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2724676]Repubs are thriving when economy is in tatters. No, they won't do shit for economy, but they're great at 'xplaining how Dems are to blame when economy is in tatters.

Expensive gas is good for Repub. Cheap gas is bad for Repubs. Cheap gas distracts people from voting right. As in ultra-right.
[/QUOTE]Man, you dumb Dems do not understand anything.

[URL]https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/high-gas-prices-pump-alter-driving-habits-aaa-finds[/URL]

The DoE's official implied gasoline demand data shows the weakest demand since the COVID lockdowns (on a seasonal basis) and weakest overall since 2013.

And this is good?

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2724676]
Expensive gas is good for Repub. Cheap gas is bad for Repubs. Cheap gas distracts people from voting right. As in ultra-right.
$6 per gallon would be fantastic.
[/QUOTE]I found this from one month ago when gas prices in USA had just passed USD 5:

Hong Kong: $11.35.
Norway: $10.22.
Denmark: $10.04.
Finland: $10.08.
Greece: $9. 49.
Netherlands: $9. 33.
United Kingdom: $8. 39.
Spain: $8. 35.
France: $8. 27.
Italy: $8. 01.
Israel: $7. 94.
Germany: $7. 65.

Cheapest:
Venezuela - $0. 08.
Libya: $0. 12.
Iran: $0. 20.
Syria: $1. 08.
Algeria: $1. 19.
Kuwait: $1. 29.
Saudi at $ 2. 35.

[URL]https://fortune.com/2022/06/17/most-expensive-gas-prices-around-world-2022/[/URL]

Things no doubt have changed a litttle.

But for US people to feel less pain, why doesn't the govt invest in public transport. Buses, trains etc. Oh I forgot, that would take competence and a commitment to helping the US public instead of themselves.

[QUOTE=JustTK;2724864]I found this from one month ago when gas prices in USA had just passed USD 5:

Hong Kong: $11.35.
Norway: $10.22.
Denmark: $10.04.
Finland: $10.08.
Greece: $9. 49.
Netherlands: $9. 33.
United Kingdom: $8. 39.
Spain: $8. 35.
France: $8. 27.
Italy: $8. 01.
Israel: $7. 94.
Germany: $7. 65.

Cheapest:
Venezuela - $0. 08.
Libya: $0. 12.
Iran: $0. 20.
Syria: $1. 08.
Algeria: $1. 19.
Kuwait: $1. 29.
Saudi at $ 2. 35.

[URL]https://fortune.com/2022/06/17/most-expensive-gas-prices-around-world-2022/[/URL]

Things no doubt have changed a litttle.

But for US people to feel less pain, why doesn't the govt invest in public transport. Buses, trains etc. Oh I forgot, that would take competence and a commitment to helping the US public instead of themselves.[/QUOTE][blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue]

Bus and rail lines in the United States exist already and easily carry the folks who choose that over alternates, like their own vehicles.

Show me where regularly scheduled busses or trains depart fully occupied where dozens of other eager riders are left at the station?

[B]Hunter Biden had a high-end income and lavish lifestyle. But he struggled with tax issues for years - CNN, July 27th 2022[/B]

[URL]https://www.cnn.com/2022/07/27/politics/hunter-biden-emails-invs/index.html[/URL]

I am confused! Why is CNN talking about Hunter Biden's issues?

[QUOTE=Gino02;2724990][B]Hunter Biden had a high-end income and lavish lifestyle. But he struggled with tax issues for years - CNN, July 27th 2022[/B]

[URL]https://www.cnn.com/2022/07/27/politics/hunter-biden-emails-invs/index.html[/URL]

I am confused! Why is CNN talking about Hunter Biden's issues?[/QUOTE]That's an easy one; because as a typically pro Repub campaigning Mainstream Media source, it is in CNN's financial interest to find something, anything, that will help their beloved Repub Party win more congressional seats this November so they can better provide more of those Bad News, "A Great Repub Depression / Recession Looms!" headlines and topics it craves to attract viewers.

And in this time of a historically positive economic recovery, expansion, jobs creation, wage growth, national security and Western Democracy Alliance strengthening under Joe Biden and the Dems, silliness about some inconsequential dude named "Hunter" is all they've got.

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2724308]Paulie97 in your vehement defense of the Nancy Pelosi's Jan 6 House Inquisition you omit the key fact in my post that the star witness, White House assistant Cassidy Hutchinson's testimony was 100 percent hearsay. And wait for it, within hours of Ms. Hutchinson's allegations, the Secret Service agents actually involved came forward and said what Ms. Hutchinson testified to under oath did not happen.[/QUOTE]An agent reportedly questioned the part about Rump lunging at the steering wheel but this has yet to be said under oath. The meat of the story stands, that Rump demanded to be taken back to the Capital so he could support the murderous goons he unleashed. Whining about Pelosi doesn't save you from these facts.

Also, and once again, "hearsay" isn't useless. It's essentially the testimony of what another person said, and is used all the time to help secure criminal convictions. It's often admissible in court, and is especially useful when it comes to confessions made to the commission of crimes. And it's also very useful in these hearings which aren't a criminal trial, especially in the case of Hutchinson who was around the inner circle and offers direct testimony of the words and mindset of Rump's right hand man Mark Meadows as she was his assistant.

[URL]https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/secret-service-debunked-hutchinson/[/URL]

The big question here, is why don't you take advantage of some of the opportunities in our country to get an education? That is if you are from the US. Lying every day in a monger forum doesn't get you far. And that way you can learn how to do some research and stop being a stooge of Fox News and the con men of their nightly fiction hours, Hannity and Tucker, and a constantly lying tyrant like Trump and become a useful citizen. I mean we know you can talk, but what good is that if you don't know what the fuck you are talking about? You just look like a fool, like those traitorous goons that tore up the Capital, and that Rump never pardoned. Suckers.

[QUOTE=PVMonger;2724788]Hutchinson's testimony was 100% hearsay? Not even close.

First, hearsay only applies to a trial. Are the hearings a trial? Nope. So I call BS on your statement for that reason alone.

Need more proof? How about this: [URL]https://lawandcrime.com/jan-6-committee/house-judiciary-gop-claimed-mark-meadows-aides-blockbuster-testimony-was-literally-all-hearsay-evidence-the-truth-is-more-complicated/[/URL] or [URL]https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2022/06/28/cassidy-hutchinson-jan-6-testimony-00042985[/URL].

But you'll just call it "fake news" because that's what "FUX snooze" says it is, right?[/QUOTE]They aren't watching the hearings, rest assured of that. They are simply regurgitating what they heard on the Fox nightly fiction hours.

The sleazebag is constantly lying but this one he harped on and on about on air on the sidelines, playing the victim whining about four well earned WP Pinocchios rather than showing the Jan 6th hearings. No, Trump DID NOT give any order prior to Jan 6th to deploy the military to protect the Capital. That's in spite of Trump's yes man and acting Defense Sec Christopher Miller's claim on the Sean Hannity Show. His contradictory statement under oath before the Jan 6th committee confirms this. Kash Patel is also a liar. So lying on Fox is routine for wingnuts and carries no consequences. Lying under oath however does so that's when we are likely to get the truth, assuming they don't no show, take the 5th, or do the "I don't recall" 1000 times.

[URL]https://www.mediamatters.org/january-6-insurrection/sean-hannitys-main-attack-against-january-6-committee-shatters-amid-new[/URL]

[URL]https://twitter.com/January6thCmte/status/1552041350941532168[/URL]

[QUOTE=ScatManDoo;2724911]Bus and rail lines in the United States exist already and easily carry the folks who choose that over alternates, like their own vehicles.
Show me where regularly scheduled busses or trains depart fully occupied where dozens of other eager riders are left at the station?[/QUOTE]The issue is tht public transport has been neglected and / or underinvested for decades bcos the US Govt sees it as a hand out for the poor. This article explaims it pretty well.

[URL]https://www.vox.com/2015/8/10/9118199/public-transportation-subway-buses[/URL]

If the service is poor, only the poor will take it.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2724835]Man, you dumb Dems do not understand anything.

[URL]https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/high-gas-prices-pump-alter-driving-habits-aaa-finds[/URL]

The DoE's official implied gasoline demand data shows the weakest demand since the COVID lockdowns (on a seasonal basis) and weakest overall since 2013.

And this is good?[/QUOTE]Once again you fail to get the point of Xpartan's message. But that's normal for RethugliKKKants. That's why Donnie the Dumbass said that he loved stupid supporters.

He said that high gasoline prices are good for RethugliKKKans and meant to say [B]because they can campaign on it[/B]. So, in the interest of fairness, please point out a RethugliKKKan, any RethugliKKKan, who is [B]not making[/B] high gasoline prices a campaign issue.

The numbers just came out this morning: 2nd quarter in a row negative growth GDP.

That makes it 2 quarters in a row that the US economy shrank.

While at the same time the year over year rate of inflation is officially pegged at around 9%. Actually, it is much higher when food and groceries are included in calculation. Pols too that vital component out years ago.

So, what have got? A shrinking economy and rising prices. In other words stagflation! Baby.

Way to go Uncle Joe and radical woke Democrats.

And what do you suppose is their solution to this horrible problem? 1. Propaganda IE change the definition of inflation. That will work. 2. Print more money and raise corporate taxes. 2 of the 3 shit ball ideas that the Dems enacted when Biden came into office that got us into this mess in the first place. Boy oh Boy, this is going to hurt and last a long time.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2725018]That's an easy one; because as a typically pro Repub campaigning Mainstream Media source, it is in CNN's financial interest to find something, anything, that will help their beloved Repub Party win more congressional seats this November so they can better provide more of those Bad News, "A Great Repub Depression / Recession Looms!" headlines and topics it craves to attract viewers.

And in this time of a historically positive economic recovery, expansion, jobs creation, wage growth, national security and Western Democracy Alliance strengthening under Joe Biden and the Dems, silliness about some inconsequential dude named "Hunter" is all they've got.[/QUOTE]This dude is saying "CNN is pro Republican campaigning Mainstream Media source"! WTF is he smoking? No wonder he still supports Burden. Ok fellas, no more debates needed, he just established that he's a nutcase himself like Burden.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2725018]That's an easy one; because as a typically pro Repub campaigning Mainstream Media source, it is in CNN's financial interest to find something, anything, that will help their beloved Repub Party win more congressional seats this November so they can better provide more of those Bad News, "A Great Repub Depression / Recession Looms!" headlines and topics it craves to attract viewers.

And in this time of a historically positive economic recovery, expansion, jobs creation, wage growth, national security and Western Democracy Alliance strengthening under Joe Biden and the Dems, silliness about some inconsequential dude named "Hunter" is all they've got.[/QUOTE]It's covered simply for the reason that CNN is a legit news service though presented from a left-center angle. They often present information unfriendly to the left because that's their job. The reverse cannot be said of Fox which is not a legit news service but birthed from the habitual liar and "entertainer" Rush Limbaugh. This especially is true regarding the evening hours and Tucker and Hannity who aren't even remotely journalists. But in any case, your accusation that CNN is actively working to elect Republicans is ludicrous, and though your daily warring here is appreciated and usually useful, some of your posts are an embarrassment.

The Hunter Biden updates were newsworthy as he's the president's son. The same would have been newsworthy if one of Trump's sons had a crack addiction, owed the IRS large sums, and told their "assistant" to make his Porche payment but to take only 1500 of the 3000 owed to them. Then again it's hardly worthy of headlines and daily coverage, and is still a big nothing burger whataboutism in these debates. No conspiracy theories trying to implicate Joe have yet to pan out. We are individuals and no court holds us responsible for the actions of our offspring. Even if so he'd still be a choir boy compared to Trump.

[QUOTE=JustTK;2725140]The issue is tht public transport has been neglected and / or underinvested for decades bcos the US Govt sees it as a hand out for the poor. This article explaims it pretty well.

[URL]https://www.vox.com/2015/8/10/9118199/public-transportation-subway-buses[/URL]

If the service is poor, only the poor will take it.[/QUOTE]That may be true for connecting inner city to the suburbs but I think that the auto industry wanted to sell more cars and mass public transportation would have decreased sales substantially. Most suburbanites have at least two cars in the family. No doubt we could use some high speed rail but doubtful it will happen. Money for weapons and corporate welfare but none for universal healthcare, public transport or education. And last but not least seniors and social security to keep up with cost of living. We just got a little boost and I mean little. Probably enough to get up to next higher tax bracket.

P.S: didn't read the link. I Don't connect to links. Paranoid or something, hahaha.

[QUOTE=Gino02;2725193]This dude is saying "CNN is pro Republican campaigning Mainstream Media source"! WTF is he smoking? No wonder he still supports Burden. Ok fellas, no more debates needed, he just established that he's a nutcase himself like Burden.[/QUOTE]Almost 70% of what CNN says is just crap or false. Hopefully sooner or later someone will file a lawsuit against them and put them out of there misery. I wish Trump would do this and focus on fundraising. If he did this and retired he could totally get the last laugh and leave a winner.

[QUOTE=ChuchoLoco;2725225]That may be true for connecting inner city to the suburbs but I think that the auto industry wanted to sell more cars and mass public transportation would have decreased sales substantially. Most suburbanites have at least two cars in the family. No doubt we could use some high speed rail but doubtful it will happen. Money for weapons and corporate welfare but none for universal healthcare, public transport or education. And last but not least seniors and social security to keep up with cost of living. We just got a little boost and I mean little. Probably enough to get up to next higher tax bracket.

P.S: didn't read the link. I Don't connect to links. Paranoid or something, hahaha.[/QUOTE]No doubt that the auto industry is against mass transit. Just like "big pharma" is against Medicare negotiating the price it pays for drugs.

High speed rail in the US is DOA unless it is between two "fairly close" major cities. I've taken several high-speed trains in Europe but distances there are relatively short. The main draw is, by and large, city-center to city-center travel. And that works if you have "city center" business to attend to but not if you need to visit clients in the suburbs.

Let's face it. The American mentality is just not "set up" for public transportation. Americans want their "freedoms" regardless of whether or not they are really "freedumbs". Americans would rather have a "pay as you go" healthcare system with worse outcomes even if the overall cost of a single-payer system is the same. Who is against it? Yep, you guessed it. The same political party who wanted to kill the ACA when the only plan they had to replace it was the GSAD (Get Sick And Die) plan. What did Donnie the Dumbass say? "Who knew that healthcare would be so hard?

[QUOTE=Paulie97;2725213]It's covered simply for the reason that CNN is a legit news service though presented from a left-center angle. They often present information unfriendly to the left because that's their job. The reverse cannot be said of Fox which is not a legit news service but birthed from the habitual liar and "entertainer" Rush Limbaugh. This especially is true regarding the evening hours and Tucker and Hannity who aren't even remotely journalists. But in any case, your accusation that CNN is actively working to elect Republicans is ludicrous, and though your daily warring here is appreciated and usually useful, some of your posts are an embarrassment.

The Hunter Biden updates were newsworthy as he's the president's son. The same would have been newsworthy if one of Trump's sons had a crack addiction, owed the IRS large sums, and told their "assistant" to make his Porche payment but to take only 1500 of the 3000 owed to them. Then again it's hardly worthy of headlines and daily coverage, and is still a big nothing burger whataboutism in these debates. No conspiracy theories trying to implicate Joe have yet to pan out. We are individuals and no court holds us responsible for the actions of our offspring. Even if so he'd still be a choir boy compared to Trump.[/QUOTE]Bad news sells. Good news doesn't.

CNN loved Trump and still does. They miss him terribly. Anything they can do to put him back in the WH, they will do it.

And for the mid tems; all it takes is for 1-2 Dems to resist or delay voting for a Biden / Dem Leadership legislation proposal and CNN will be right there with the rest of them on "Democrats in disarray".

CNN had no use for Obama after his historic election, while he was successfully recovering us from the Great Repub Recession. They barely cover Biden's accomplishments. I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if they uttered some variation the words "Biden's poll ratings are tanking" many times more than, "Biden passed a historic bipartisan Infrastructure bill."

And if they did mention it recently it was probably in the context of it contributing to Inflation, which it didn't.

You're a Bothsider. You probably didn't even notice how many decades Mainstream Media have characterized every Repub win as a Repub win and every Dem win as a Repub win and every draw between the two as a Repub win.

According to Mainstream Media, Dems rarely win while Repubs rarely lose. Because they know the electorate will more likely vote for "preceived" winners rather than actual successful legislators.

You thought they were just being Fair and Balanced or bending over backwards to show how not in the tank they are for Liberal Democrats or some nonsense like that, right?

[QUOTE=PVMonger;2725262]No doubt that the auto industry is against mass transit. Just like "big pharma" is against Medicare negotiating the price it pays for drugs.

High speed rail in the US is DOA unless it is between two "fairly close" major cities. I've taken several high-speed trains in Europe but distances there are relatively short. The main draw is, by and large, city-center to city-center travel. And that works if you have "city center" business to attend to but not if you need to visit clients in the suburbs.

Who is against it? Yep, you guessed it.[/QUOTE]Both main parties have been underinvesting in public transport.

Have you ever been to London? Thats a great example of how you can make rail line network succeed throughout an entire city and nearby suburbs (Home Counties). But generally, yes, high speed rail works best between city hubs, the bus networks take arrivals to locations within each hub (cheaper bcos they don't require heavy investment in rail infrastructure). But trams used to be effective too.

But yeah, it is an attitude. And an attitude that was born during low fuel costs.

Washington, DC — America's GDP has fallen over the last two quarters, stoking fears of a possible recession due to the fact that America is now in a recession. When asked whether the USA Is now in a recession, Biden answered that he wasn't qualified to answer, as he doesn't have a biology degree.

"I don't know if we're in a recession, I'm not a biologist," said Biden to the bronze bust of Hugo Chávez in his office. "Leave that stuff to the experts, Jack! If you ask me, the economy should lose some weight, anyway. Too fat. We deserve this for being racist anyway. Come on, man!

The White House quickly clarified Biden's statement, saying the USA Is not in a terrible recession because the word "recession" has been redefined, as has the word "terrible. ".

"It should be noted that the word 'recession' is being used by extreme far-alt-right-right extreme extremists," said gay black Press Secretary Karine Jean-Pierre to reporters. "At best, the word 'recession' is a racist dog whistle. At worst, it's a cruel slur against a historically marginalized economy. We condemn anyone who would use this racist language. ".

At publishing time, Supreme Court Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson couldn't confirm whether America is in a recession either, as she is also not a biologist. . . .

[QUOTE=PVMonger;2725169]Once again you fail to get the point of Xpartan's message.[/QUOTE]No, I got it, and it was stupid. You dumb Dems put politics above the well being of people. Republicans do not do that. We pay for gasoline and want lower gasoline prices and want the problem of high prices solved. You all fuck up and claim we are happy with your fuckups.

That is the most fucking pathetic excuse I have heard. That ranks up there with Republicans cheering on deaths by Putin killing people in Ukraine and letting people die by not locking down with Covid.

We do not have to cheer on high gasoline prices; we just wait to see them go up because of your douche policies.

"We are Democrats. We care about people. We care about the planet. I think global warming is the biggest threat to mankind there is. If you do not believe that, you do not care about mankind. ".

Here someone put together a study of Spain and there were 6 X more death from freezing than overheating.

[URL]https://mishtalk.com/economics/lets-discuss-climate-scare-heat-deaths-should-we-be-concerned[/URL]

And you dumb Dems want "clean" solar power.

[URL]https://www.forbes.com/sites/michaelshellenberger/2021/06/21/why-everything-they-said-about-solar---including-that-its-clean-and-cheap---was-wrong/?sh=12c2e1a55fe5[/URL]

Three years ago I published a column at Forbes arguing that solar panels weren't clean but in fact produced 300 times more toxic waste than high-level nuclear waste. But in contrast to nuclear waste, which is safely stored and never hurts anyone, solar panel waste risks exposing poor trash-pickers in sub-Saharan Africa.

And you want Covid lockdowns to save lives.

And here we go with lockdowns: [URL]https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jul/08/new-zealand-children-falling-ill-in-high-numbers-due-to-covid-immunity-debt[/URL].

[URL]https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jul/08/new-zealand-children-falling-ill-in-high-numbers-due-to-covid-immunity-debt[/URL]

Nine people across the country have died after becoming infected with RSV this winter. Including six in Auckland's central suburbs.

ESR public health physician Dr Sarah Jefferies said the prevalence of RSV was likely the result of lower population immunity because of New Zealand's Covid-19 isolation last year and the increase in movement since then.

"This positive collateral effect in the short term is welcome, as it prevents additional overload of the healthcare system But in the long term, it can create problems of its own: if bacterial and viral infections aren't circulating among children, they don't develop immunity, which leads to larger outbreaks down the line. ".

So if you are a Dem, you do not accept high gasoline prices are due to your boneheaded policies but deflect that Republicans who have to pay for gasoline too love high gas prices. You are for war in Ukraine and all the deaths there. You are for turning Africa into a toxic trash heap. You are for people freezing to death, and you are for preventing people from developing natural immunity and allowing people including children to die.

The slogan of the Democrat should be: we kill way more people than Republicans but we pretend to care more.

Even the Dems pets ambassador to Ukraine admitted that if Trump were president Putin would not have invaded Ukraine, and the chances of the horrific Afghanistan withdrawal likely would have been far less. And even with all those deaths PVM, you still would have voted Biden right?

And your response to your votes that literally has caused thousands and thousands of deaths is Republicans are happy with those deaths? Seriously? WTF is wrong with you people? Mean tweets are so much worse than thousands of deaths?

[QUOTE=Gino02;2725193]This dude is saying "CNN is pro Republican campaigning Mainstream Media source"! WTF is he smoking? No wonder he still supports Burden. Ok fellas, no more debates needed, he just established that he's a nutcase himself like Burden.[/QUOTE]Reagan and Trump.

The two most media-savvy politicians of all time, professionals, both ran for president, both were among the laziest in terms of actually doing something for their pay and, on point here, both switched from Dem to Repub before they dared enter the real political arena.

They knew. Better than anyone.

They knew that, had they been Dems, Mainstream Media would blame them for the crap results the outgoing Repubs left behind and dumped in their lap, demand to know when they are going to clean up this colossal mess quickly and easily, harp on and criticize their every effort, downplay and fill with doubt every historically successful accomplishnent, never give them clear and unqualified credit dwell obsessively on the slightest imperfection.

But as Repubs? LOL. They could ride ponies, play golf, coast on the positive trajectories they always inherit from the outgoing Dem, fail all over the place, produce skyrocketing unemployment rates, wipe out millions of jobs, preside over deep Bear Market declines, pass almost nothing of any real value to America while ballooning the deficit in exchange for all their nothingness and gross under performance vs virtually any Dem and, my oh my, Mainstream Media will still be right there at election time to remind its viewers and readers what grinning "winners" the Repubs are compared to Dems and, oh, bear in mind most people think Repubs are better at handling the economy than Dems. LOL.

That has been going on and well understood by any media watcher for decades.

It is astonishing that you, Paulie and a few others miss something so obvious and played out over and over again.

Lazy, Do Nothing ambitious wannabe pols certainly haven't missed it. That's why they partner up with the Republican Party and not the Democratic Party.

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2725172]The numbers just came out this morning: 2nd quarter in a row negative growth GDP.

That makes it 2 quarters in a row that the US economy shrank.

While at the same time the year over year rate of inflation is officially pegged at around 9%. Actually, it is much higher when food and groceries are included in calculation. Pols too that vital component out years ago.

So, what have got? A shrinking economy and rising prices. In other words stagflation! Baby.

Way to go Uncle Joe and radical woke Democrats.

And what do you suppose is their solution to this horrible problem? 1. Propaganda IE change the definition of inflation. That will work. 2. Print more money and raise corporate taxes. 2 of the 3 shit ball ideas that the Dems enacted when Biden came into office that got us into this mess in the first place. Boy oh Boy, this is going to hurt and last a long time.[/QUOTE]Before it was changing the definition of inflation, now it is changing recession.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TdRdn6BqrA[/URL]

And Dems have a hard time defining a woman as well;.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=42ivIRd9N8E[/URL]

And right winger is now anyone who disagrees with the progressive wing of the Democratic party, even those who consider themselves liberal.

But just so you do not think the dumb Dems can play with all words. They have stayed consistent with those who vote Republican. Those who vote that way are evil, stupid, racist, amoral assholes.

And what do you call $1000 an hour for this woman?

[URL]https://tryst.link/escort/mira_1[/URL]

Well, it certainly is not inflation is it?

I read this every few days and see the same thing all the time. Ultra left and crazy right. I used to think that ET was just an over the top Dem lover (and no I am not right wing and can't stand Trump) but first calling Bill Maher a Republican lover and now this CNN pro Republic nonsense has me wondering if he is truly addled.

The demonstrably Repub / winger-leaning RealClearPolitics poll of polls on the Generic Ballot question now shows Repubs' "advantage" over Dems dropping to a mere 1. 3 percentage point (s):

[URL]https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/2022-generic-congressional-vote-7361.html[/URL]

Quick, RCP! Jam a few more Repub / winger Rasmussen and Trafalgar polls in there to save the day!

Meanwhile, the more reputable and reliable FiveThirtyEight Polling Service site has Repubs' adavantage falling to 0. 2 percentage point (s):

[URL]https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/generic-ballot/[/URL]

If this trend continues as the electorate finds the relief and luxury of looking away from Trump's Pandemic Global Supply-Chain Destruction Inflation, to instead take a closer look at the personal freedoms and rights Repubs are busy overturning, their non position on gun safety, their flip-flop on voting in favor of competing with China regarding the chip industry, creating USA jobs, reducing inflation and our reliance on supplies from our enemies, those two historic climate change, inflation reduction, voting rights protection, life-improving pieces of legislation on board right now for a 50+1 vote in the Senate and passage in the House while "Repubs in Disarray!" sat there with their thumbs up each others' butt utterly incapable and unwilling to produce anything close to them for the benefit of the vast majority of Americans ever.

So I'm guessing there is room for some upside for the Dems on this question.

Not to mention the way Dems are showing how much Repubs hate our military veterans.

[QUOTE=DramaFree11;2725250]Almost 70% of what CNN says is just crap or false. Hopefully sooner or later someone will file a lawsuit against them and put them out of there misery. I wish Trump would do this and focus on fundraising. If he did this and retired he could totally get the last laugh and leave a winner.[/QUOTE]And almost 99% of what "FUX Snooze" says is true? ROFL.

CNN reports real news with a left bias. "FUX Snooze" is all BS all the time. Even their lawyers said so.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2725359]No, I got it, and it was stupid. You dumb Dems put politics above the well being of people. Republicans do not do that. We pay for gasoline and want lower gasoline prices and want the problem of high prices solved. You all fuck up and claim we are happy with your fuckups.

That is the most fucking pathetic excuse I have heard. That ranks up there with Republicans cheering on deaths by Putin killing people in Ukraine and letting people die by not locking down with Covid.

We do not have to cheer on high gasoline prices; we just wait to see them go up because of your douche policies.

"We are Democrats. We care about people. We care about the planet. I think global warming is the biggest threat to mankind there is. If you do not believe that, you do not care about mankind. ".

Here someone put together a study of Spain and there were 6 X more death from freezing than overheating.

[URL]https://mishtalk.com/economics/lets-discuss-climate-scare-heat-deaths-should-we-be-concerned[/URL]

And you dumb Dems want "clean" solar power.

[URL]https://www.forbes.com/sites/michaelshellenberger/2021/06/21/why-everything-they-said-about-solar---including-that-its-clean-and-cheap---was-wrong/?sh=12c2e1a55fe5[/URL]

Three years ago I published a column at Forbes arguing that solar panels weren't clean but in fact produced 300 times more toxic waste than high-level nuclear waste. But in contrast to nuclear waste, which is safely stored and never hurts anyone, solar panel waste risks exposing poor trash-pickers in sub-Saharan Africa.

And you want Covid lockdowns to save lives.

And here we go with lockdowns: [URL]https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jul/08/new-zealand-children-falling-ill-in-high-numbers-due-to-covid-immunity-debt[/URL].

[URL]https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jul/08/new-zealand-children-falling-ill-in-high-numbers-due-to-covid-immunity-debt[/URL]

Nine people across the country have died after becoming infected with RSV this winter. Including six in Auckland's central suburbs.

ESR public health physician Dr Sarah Jefferies said the prevalence of RSV was likely the result of lower population immunity because of New Zealand's Covid-19 isolation last year and the increase in movement since then.[/QUOTE]So, please answer the question I asked, which was tell me any RethugliKKKan poplitician who is not campaigning on high gasoline prices. You can't because there are none.

Bridget Brink, the current ambassador to Ukraine, never said anything like that. Please post a link that said she did.

Former ambassador to Ukraine, Marie Yovanovitch, did say that, but not in the way you portray. Putin didn't invade because Donnie the Dumbass was swallowing all of Putin's man-sauce. [URL]https://www.newyorker.com/news/q-and-a/the-ambassador-caught-between-ukraine-and-trump[/URL].

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[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2725417]Before it was changing the definition of inflation, now it is changing recession.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TdRdn6BqrA[/URL]

And Dems have a hard time defining a woman as well;.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=42ivIRd9N8E[/URL]

And right winger is now anyone who disagrees with the progressive wing of the Democratic party, even those who consider themselves liberal.

But just so you do not think the dumb Dems can play with all words. They have stayed consistent with those who vote Republican. Those who vote that way are evil, stupid, racist, amoral assholes.

And what do you call $1000 an hour for this woman?

[URL]https://tryst.link/escort/mira_1[/URL]

Well, it certainly is not inflation is it?[/QUOTE]Yep, RethugliKKKants have never played with words.

They can't tell anybody what a fascist is, even when looking in the mirror will tell them.

They can't tell anybody what a misogynist is, even when looking in the mirror will tell them.

They can't tell anybody what a homophobe is, even when looking in the mirror will tell them.

They can't tell anybody what a xenophobe is, even when looking in the mirror will tell them.

Severe weather predicted today for the Washington DC area as well as 20% of the rest of the country.

Climate control legislation will arrive just in time for democrats to improve their prospects for 2022.

My bets behind democratic candidates on predictit are gaining value.

[QUOTE=PVMonger;2725524]So, please answer the question I asked, which was tell me any RethugliKKKan poplitician who is not campaigning on high gasoline prices. You can't because there are none.[/QUOTE]And they are not supposed to campaign on Democratic fuckups? Since when? How many times did you dumb Dems make fun of drill baby drill?

[QUOTE=PVMonger;2725524]Former ambassador to Ukraine, Marie Yovanovitch, did say that, but not in the way you portray. Putin didn't invade because Donnie the Dumbass was swallowing all of Putin's man-sauce.[/QUOTE]So thousands of dead Russians and Ukrainians and a trillion dollars of damage is better than the president "swallowing man sauce" whatever that means? You going to run on that too?

So again, you are the party that does not care about high gas prices or human life.

[QUOTE=PVMonger;2725528]Yep, RethugliKKKants have never played with words.

They can't tell anybody what a fascist is, even when looking in the mirror will tell them.

They can't tell anybody what a misogynist is, even when looking in the mirror will tell them.

They can't tell anybody what a homophobe is, even when looking in the mirror will tell them.

They can't tell anybody what a xenophobe is, even when looking in the mirror will tell them.[/QUOTE]That is classic whataboutism. To a dumb Dem, the answer to what a fascist, misogynist, homophobe, and xenophobe is a Republican, and it is does not matter if that Republican is a freedom loving, foreign, gay woman.

Here is what WikiPedia has to say about James Murray:

"In 2014, Murray became the Acting Special Agent in Charge of the Secret Service's Washington, the. See. Field Office. He was promoted to the position and continued to lead the field office until 2016. From 2016 to 2018, he served as Deputy Assistant Director of Protective Operations, during which he led combined agency efforts for the presidential campaigns ahead of the 2016 USA Presidential election, the presidential transition, and the inauguration of President Donald Trump on January 20,2017. He returned to the James J. Rowley Training Center as the Special Agent in Charge.

In April 2018, Murray became the Assistant Director of the Office of Protective Operations and was responsible for the planning, coordination, and administration of the agency's global protective mission. On April 8, 2019, President Donald Trump removed Randolph Alles as Director of the USA Secret Service and named Murray as his replacement. He took office on May 1, 2019.

On July 7, 2022, Murray announced his retirement as Secret Service Director, to take effect July 30,2022. Murray will take the role of Chief Security Officer at Snap Inc. , parent company of Snapchat, on August 1, 2022.

Missing records investigation.

On July 14,2022, it was reported that "Members of the USA Secret Service erased text messages from January 5th and 6th, 2021, shortly after the Department of Homeland Security inspector general requested them as part of an investigation into the agency's response to the 2021 United States Capitol attack, according to a letter written by the inspector general to congressional leaders (.)". On July 20,2022, Gladys Ayala, the Inspector General (IG} of the Department of Homeland Security notified the Secret Service that her office was investigating the disappearance of text messages and emails regarding the siege of the USA Capitol on January 6, 2021, characterizing their disappearance as an "ongoing criminal investigation. " She directed the Secret Service to cease any internal investigations into the matter of failure of the agency to preserve the missing records. ".

[B] Then he said "Snap"[/B]

[QUOTE=PVMonger;2725528]Yep, RethugliKKKants have never played with words.

They can't tell anybody what a fascist is, even when looking in the mirror will tell them.

They can't tell anybody what a misogynist is, even when looking in the mirror will tell them.

They can't tell anybody what a homophobe is, even when looking in the mirror will tell them.

They can't tell anybody what a xenophobe is, even when looking in the mirror will tell them.[/QUOTE]My first thought when reading PVM's post was "Gee Republicans seem to wear a lot of hats. ".

But upon further reflection, my thought shifted to:

Republican seem to have a lot of weaknesses and ailments.

[QUOTE=PVMonger;2725490]And almost 99% of what "FUX Snooze" says is true? ROFL.

CNN reports real news with a left bias. "FUX Snooze" is all BS all the time. Even their lawyers said so.[/QUOTE]CNN is facts with a left spin, and if mistakes are made corrections are typically issued. And when covering Trump and his sheep and cronies there's often recordings of the nonsense from their own mouths to back up what is reported. Though the right wingnuts never see it because they are inoculated with the "corporate media" is fake news nonsense even though Fox is a corporation.

But Fox just makes stuff up and chases down the the latest conspiracy theories, especially during the evening propaganda hours. This should come as no surprise as they were birthed from the self-proclaimed "entertainer" Rush Limbaugh who constantly lied.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2724481]So the massive increase in food and gas prices, the recession talk, the war in Ukraine, and the Covid debacle (which was cured by the war in Ukraine) have not affected you, but Trump's tweets did?

I am glad to see you have your priorities in life correct.[/QUOTE]Think I've answered that question. Hey, I've learnt how to adapt, adjust and persevere under Agent Orange and you claim to be a smart guy, so....

learn to [b]ADAPT, ADJUST[/b] and [b]PERSEVERE[/b] under President Biden. [i]Man-Up, dude![/i] You'll get your chance in 2024.

And how is it you're life has changed SO MUCH, under President Biden? So much so you can no longer afford to live life?

Or who is it EXACTLY, that you're SUDDENLY, so concerned for? (Those below the poverty line post Agent Orange, Women Rights, LGBTQ Rights, Black Rights, White Rights, Blue Collar Workers, White Collar Workers?)

Oh, woe is me, Elvis, under this oppressive Biden administration!

[QUOTE=Gino02;2724348]This is good. I applaud you that you're way better and more honest than most libtards on this forum who would in straight face lie that things are better under Burden than Trump.

You had to bring the discussion down to how it is just for you now as opposed to keeping the discussion at the broader level "is the country better under Burden than Trump", which we all know that it's way worse now. [/QUOTE]Can't speak for the whole country, but much of the angst the country is going through in the Biden presidency, is akin to the shit bombs from a toddler, a parent has to clean up after their kid shits and wets the bed.

If it's not yet clear, in the wake of Agent Orange's presidency, is LIKE cleaning up after a shit bombing, p1ssing, bed wetting toddler. Hence much of the country's angst.

[QUOTE=Gino02;2724348]In Trump's time, I agree we were bombarded with tweets, some pretty mean even for his supporters like me, but good thing was that things were getting done, US and international economy and peace were kept in a steady path. Some of us understand that how a man talks to me (mean tweets) is way less important than what he does for me (keep us safe from getting killed in wars or making sure we aren't getting into huge inflation or recession etc etc blah blah blah). It's the intelligence to figure out what's important for us and what we can ignore. Like I always say, Trump is no way the best possible POTUS, but compared to all other current choices we have (or had in 2020), he's probably the best. If a better candidate comes along for 2024, I would definitely vote for that better candidate, unfortunately Burden was never that candidate and never will.[/QUOTE]What now? Agent Orange's lame duck presidency, was the WORST in history. See below, just in case you didn't get the memo!

I think Trump will win.

[QUOTE=Spidy;2725624]Think I've answered that question. Hey, I've learnt how to adapt, adjust and persevere under Agent Orange[/QUOTE]Adjust to what? Not reading twitter? Not following Trump in the news? How did you suffer so with Trump?

[QUOTE=Spidy;2725624]and you claim to be a smart guy, so....

learn to [b]ADAPT, ADJUST[/b] and [b]PERSEVERE[/b] under President Biden. [i]Man-Up, dude![/i] You'll get your chance in 2024.[/QUOTE]WTF are you talking about? I have been short Biden's market and done better than most. Lately, there has been some pain but I have added to my positions. I have done better than anyone else I know.

Are you so dense you do not see the suffering of others? For a guy making constant noise about Trump, you are even more self-absorbed than he is.

There would be hundreds of thousands of people who would not be dead now in Ukraine and Afghanistan had Trump been re-elected but it is worth it for you. You do not have to deal with hit mean tweets.

[QUOTE=DramaFree11;2725250]Almost 70% of what CNN says is just crap or false. Hopefully sooner or later someone will file a lawsuit against them and put them out of [B] there [/B] misery. [/QUOTE]I wonder if your English teachers were finally put out of "their misery".

[QUOTE=PVMonger;2724788]Hutchinson's testimony was 100% hearsay? Not even close.

First, hearsay only applies to a trial. Are the hearings a trial? Nope. So I call BS on your statement for that reason alone.

Need more proof? How about this: [URL]https://lawandcrime.com/jan-6-committee/house-judiciary-gop-claimed-mark-meadows-aides-blockbuster-testimony-was-literally-all-hearsay-evidence-the-truth-is-more-complicated/[/URL] or [URL]https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2022/06/28/cassidy-hutchinson-jan-6-testimony-00042985[/URL].

But you'll just call it "fake news" because that's what "FUX snooze" says it is, right?[/QUOTE]Calling it hearsay is idiotic.

First, you testify under oath and second, you tell them what you know. You're not supposed to prove anything.

Trump says I don't fucking care they're armed.

Medows tells you Trump didn't want to save Pence from a lynching mob.

Your job, as a witness, to tell what you've heard and seen, not to prove it.

How is it hearsay?

Pathetic!

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2725646]Adjust to what? Not reading twitter? Not following Trump in the news? How did you suffer so with Trump?

WTF are you talking about? [B]I have been short Biden's market and done better than most. Lately, there has been some pain but I have added to my positions. I have done better than anyone else I know.[/B]

Are you so dense you do not see the suffering of others? For a guy making constant noise about Trump, you are even more self-absorbed than he is.

There would be hundreds of thousands of people who would not be dead now in Ukraine and Afghanistan had Trump been re-elected but it is worth it for you. You do not have to deal with hit mean tweets.[/QUOTE]You've been challenged a number of times in the 'Stupid Shit in Medellin' forum to back up your claims. You haven't invested in anything AND the investments you claimed that you made have deteriorated completely. You're now underwater. All you had to do to shut up the detractors is copy your April and June statements and redact your name and account number. If it is too much trouble I'm sure some 8 year old could do it for you in 2 to 3 minutes. You made up your fantasy trades and bragged about how well you were doing. Truth is a month and a half later, even those hypothetical trades are losers.

[QUOTE=SouthEaster;2725445]I read this every few days and see the same thing all the time. Ultra left and crazy right. I used to think that ET was just an over the top Dem lover (and no I am not right wing and can't stand Trump) but first calling Bill Maher a Republican lover and now this CNN pro Republic nonsense has me wondering if he is truly addled.[/QUOTE]Someone else who has been sound asleep oblivious about this for at least 40 years?

The record of results for Repub stewardship vs Dem stewardship (well, vs anything really) was already abysmal pre Reagan. During and after Reagan it has been spectacularly horrific.

No way should a Repub have come within 30 percentage points of winning an election since Reagan's first term as potus.

Yet, they have.

Mainstream Media need a close horse race contest every time. It does not want a foregone conclusion of a Dem blowout win every 2-4 years.

Consequently, MSM must elevate and praise Repub legislative and stewardship nothingness and failures and denigrate and slam Dem legislative and stewardship successes.

Otherwise known as "helping Repubs win elections. ".

Oh, I don't mean CNN and other MSM sources ignore all those Repub failures and Dem successes or lie about them all the time like FUX News does. Particularly during non election years when it really doesn't matter or effect them financially in the furture. After all, they are real news sources.

I am talking the Repub congratulating, Dem slamming spin MSM engages in during election time when it matters.

The intention is to see that these election contests are decided on a knife's edge, how exciting, when all data, historical results and logic dictates there is no way it should be so. And, guess what, sometimes the knife's edge cuts juuust enough the wrong way for America and a Repub squeaks out a win despite losing the vote by 500,000 to 3,000,000 votes against him.

Oh well. Too bad. But MSM got what they wanted and worked so hard for; an exciting horse race right down to the wire. Or was it a knife fight? Whatever.

In October 2020, MSM pundits were actually providing free Trump campaign ads by wondering aloud why was Trump talking about this "rigged election" nonsense instead of, you know, "touting his economy? Because, hey, most Americans think Repubs are better than Dems at handling the economy. ".

LOL. Tout what economy? The millions upon millions of jobs Trump's economic decisions and stewardship wiped out? The collapse of global supply-chains due to his methods and madness more than any other world leader?

But, gee, to hear MSM's spin on it you'd think Trump had produced some terrific economic results worth touting! LOL.

Again, otherwise known as, "helping Trump win an election. ".

Come on, guys. This decades long election year pattern for MSM spin is not so subtle and nuanced that anyone capable of booting up a computer and typing out the occasional coherent sentence would miss it.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2725543]That is classic whataboutism. To a dumb Dem, the answer to what a fascist, misogynist, homophobe, and xenophobe is a Republican, and it is does not matter if that Republican is a freedom loving, foreign, gay woman.[/QUOTE]The king of whataboutism, that is.

You have been told, in many posts by me and others, what constitutes fascism, homophobism, xenophobia and misogyny. We have provided links. We have shown you proof.

Your response has been the usual RethugliKKKant response of deriding the sources and calling them "fake news".

We all know that a RethugliKKKant's idea of "freedom" is the ability to [B]tell others[/B] what they can read, what they can think, who they can love and what they can do with their bodies. Nothing else matters to you. Especially democracy because what RethugliKKKants want is an autocracy, preferably headed by Agent Orange or one of his ilk.

From reading PVMonger and his buddies, they sound like Woke Army Recruiters! Army Unsure Why Their New Slogan 'America Is Racist, You Should Die For It' Isn't Getting Traction. . .

FORT FARRAKHAN CA — A USA Army spokesperson admitted concern today after the recent drop in recruitment numbers, despite the unveiling of the new "America Is Racist, You Should Die For It" slogan.

Colonel Rip Skirtsteak said the Army will continue its push for diversity in hopes of drawing more new recruits. "It's just really hard to find recruits who hate this country as they should but are also willing to put their lives on the line to protect it," Skirtsteak said as he adjusted his rainbow flag lapel pin. "We may have to switch to Plan be, which is to offer free gender reassignment surgery for everyone who signs up. ".

The USA Army, once regarded as the premiere fighting force in the world except for the far superior Marine Corps, has instead diverted its efforts to getting rid of people who love America while promoting more inclusivity. "I really just wanted to join the military to serve my country, provide a bright future for my family, and stand up for what I believe is right," a young cadet said as he walked away from his local recruitment center after being asked by the recruitment officer if he regretted his white middle-class upbringing.

At press time, the Army was in deep discussions to create more publicity and attract potential recruits. "If our new rainbow camouflage uniforms don't get people in line to sign up, then maybe our planned 'Drag Queen Boot Camp' will do the trick," Colonel Skirtsteak said as he closed his press conference and strutted in his red high heels back to his office. . . .

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2725718]I am talking the Repub congratulating, Dem slamming spin MSM engages in during election time when it matters....The intention is to see that these election contests are decided on a knife's edge, how exciting, when all data, historical results and logic dictates there is no way it should be so.[/QUOTE]Methinks you need to lay off the booze in retirement. This is as laughable and unsubstantiated as any of the right wingnut conspiracy theories. Not to mention that this "mainstream media" obviously isn't very good at instigating these "knife's edge" elections given the landslides and many elections won by a comfortable margin over the last 50's. It's their job to present the sides of both campaigns during an election year and for the most part do a good job at it.

But this is as disingenuous as your false claim that Democrats haven't "presided" over any recessions or otherwise economic downturns while you cherry pick the data, picking what suits your agenda while ignoring that which doesn't. Yet the most hilarious hopefully booze induced claim in the unbridled hyper-partisan anti-Republican agenda was to reach way back and blame Lincoln for the Civil War. Lolol That's when he had no other choice besides allowing the nation to split. But the point is moot anyway as the roles have reversed in that the Republicans were the progressive party back them.

But anyway type me out another filibuster. You go on and on and on and people on both sides of the isle grow tired of reading and unraveling your protracted tripe. That's the aim. Bore them with bluster. LOL.

[QUOTE=JacobDavid;2725636]I think Trump will win.[/QUOTE]Trump will run again only if he is confident that all of the election-denying QAnon Repub loons have been put in place at the state and local level to throw out enough ballots with likely Dem votes and only retain ballots with likely Repub votes in order to ensure his name will be called out as the "winner" on that year's January 6 no matter how many millions more votes and dozens more Electoral College awards his opponent actually earned.

And, apparently like every other Repub nominee from now on, he won't even risk getting the snot beat out of him by his Dem opponent again in real time in a live, televised Presidential debate because the Repub Party seems to have thrown in the towel and given up expecting anyone in their party to know anything about any important issue well enough to compete.

[QUOTE=Paulie97;2726011]Methinks you need to lay off the booze in retirement. This is as laughable and unsubstantiated as any of the right wingnut conspiracy theories. Not to mention that this "mainstream media" obviously isn't very good at instigating these "knife's edge" elections given the landslides and many elections won by a comfortable margin over the last 50's. It's their job to present the sides of both campaigns during an election year and for the most part do a good job at it.

But this is as disingenuous as your false claim that Democrats haven't "presided" over any recessions or otherwise economic downturns while you cherry pick the data, picking what suits your agenda while ignoring that which doesn't. Yet the most hilarious hopefully booze induced claim in the unbridled hyper-partisan anti-Republican agenda was to reach way back and blame Lincoln for the Civil War. Lolol That's when he had no other choice besides allowing the nation to split. But the point is moot anyway as the roles have reversed in that the Republicans were the progressive party back them.

But anyway type me out another filibuster. You go on and on and on and people on both sides of the isle grow tired of reading and unraveling your protracted tripe. That's the aim. Bore them with bluster. LOL.[/QUOTE]Please stop lying about what I post in order to promote your pro Repub Bothsiderism. I never said Dems never presided over a recession or otherwise economic downturn.

The term I use is "Great Recession" or "Great Repub Recession. " There has not been a Great Recession started or presided over by a Dem POTUS in at least 100 years. Only Repubs.

The time frame is 100 years, not "ever" and I have explained why multiple times.

When Mainstream Media engages in your brand of tortured Bothsiderism, repeating any nonsense notion that Republicans are no worse (or better) at handling the economy than Dems, often right in the middle of a Great Repub Recession or a Great Dem Recovery, without bothering to mention Repub potuses have produced and presided over every Great Recession and Jobs Destruction of the past 100 years and none of the Great Recoveries, Jobs Creation and Expansions while Dems have produced and presided over every Great Recovery, Jobs Creation and Expansion of the past 100 years and none of the Great Recessions and Jobs Destruction, particularly during an election year, that is by any definition "helping Repubs win elections. ".

It is only marinally more blatant pro Repub Bothsiderism (or False Equivalency claim) than your repeated suggestion that a relatively insignificant and brief mini recession under Truman post WWII and the utra brief mini one purposely induced under Carter in order to cool down an overheated economy that was creating too many jobs, neither of which saw a spike in the Unemployment Rate higher than 7. 8% and for a single month, is no different than the massive downturns seen under Hoover, Reagan, Bush and Trump, where millions of jobs were wiped out and unemployment rates skyrocketed into double digits, often for many months.

Or is it "cherry picking" and oh so unfair to Repubs' chances of winning elections on the always critical issue of The Economy in this election year?

Apparently you and MSM think so.

Reading thru these comments, watching htem go backwards and forwards, round and round in circles, always trading in insults and making no progress. It makes me wonder why both sides set their bar so low?

It; s like listening to 2 sets of partisan sports fans arguing about their sports team - "you're so shlt its unbelievable", "you couldn't score in a brothel". The fans are so partisan and biased and so fixated in each other that neither set of supporters notices that both teams get relegated for finishing last and second last in the league! That's really it. Neither of you accept your own parties faults and just want to attack and blame the other, when the reality is that these 2 latest versions of the parties are possibly the worst representations of both parties in a long, long time, if not ever!

Furthermore, you both live under the same shared delusion. You are both deluded by what you think the Dem Party is. The Red side accuse it of being left wing, when the truth is it is a corporate elitist party, same as the Reps. And the Blue side wish it were left wing and continue to live under that delusion, in the vain hope that it is the party fo change, when the truth is it is a corrupt corporate elitist party that supports its sponsoors that buy its policy makers.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2725675]Calling it hearsay is idiotic.

Pathetic![/QUOTE]Hearsay noun.

Information received from other people that one cannot adequately substantiate; rumor:

"according to hearsay, Bob had managed to break his arm".

Synonyms:

Rumor gossip tittle-tattle tattle idle chatter idle talk mere talk report stories tales tidbits bavardage on dit Kaffeeklatsch labrish shu-shu bruit.

What is pathetic is that guys like you cannot acknowledge the FACT that Nancy's January 6 committee is dishonest and totally discredited.

The committee's star witness, White House assistant Cassidy Hutchinson, testified under oath that President Trump lost control of himself after the Capitol riot began. This is a stunning charge. Too bad it is not true.

"The problem is her testimony is 100 percent hearsay. Nothing backs it up. The committee could have illuminated Ms. Hutchinson's allegations by subpoenaing the Secret Service agents involved. The committee did not do that and did not explain why not.

But I can tell you why the Secret Service wasn't called. The agents would have contradicted Cassidy Hutchinson, that's why. ".

So here is the lack of integrity on the part of the committee: They knew Hutchinson testimony was third hand and could not be substantiated but they brought her forth anyway with the sole purpose to smear Trump. They knew that the leftwing media would run with the story and not question it for at least one new cycle. The key relevant point is that the committee refused to call the 2 FBI witnesses who had firsthand knowledge of what really happened. You do understand what firsthand means?

This is undeniable proof that the purpose of the committee was: 1. Smear Trump one more time and to hopefully prevent him from running for President, 2. To take the spotlight off the Biden administration's colossal economic failures before the November election, and 3. To throw some more red meat at party loyalists like yourself.

So, this public flogging has become a sanity test. I understand that you hate Trump. Fine, that is your right. But is your hatred clouding your judgement. To refuse to acknowledge the truth of what I have just described is irrational. There are no 2 sides to this. Just imagine if the situation was reversed and it was Republicans running a sham Soviet style public inquiry on Joe Biden with the outcome already preestablished before the first witness testifies. And further imagine that there were key 1st hand witnesses that were not called to testify under oath because their testimony would contradict the partisan hearsay testimony against Biden. You would be irate. Thus, the committee is totally discredited, and you would realize this fact if you were rational.

[QUOTE=Travv;2725946]From reading PVMonger and his buddies, they sound like Woke Army Recruiters! Army Unsure Why Their New Slogan 'America Is Racist, You Should Die For It' Isn't Getting Traction. . .

FORT FARRAKHAN CA A USA Army spokesperson admitted concern today after the recent drop in recruitment numbers, despite the unveiling of the new "America Is Racist, You Should Die For It" slogan.

Colonel Rip Skirtsteak said the Army will continue its push for diversity in hopes of drawing more new recruits. "It's just really hard to find recruits who hate this country as they should but are also willing to put their lives on the line to protect it," Skirtsteak said as he adjusted his rainbow flag lapel pin. "We may have to switch to Plan be, which is to offer free gender reassignment surgery for everyone who signs up. ".

The USA Army, once regarded as the premiere fighting force in the world except for the far superior Marine Corps, has instead diverted its efforts to getting rid of people who love America while promoting more inclusivity. "I really just wanted to join the military to serve my country, provide a bright future for my family, and stand up for what I believe is right," a young cadet said as he walked away from his local recruitment center after being asked by the recruitment officer if he regretted his white middle-class upbringing.

At press time, the Army was in deep discussions to create more publicity and attract potential recruits. "If our new rainbow camouflage uniforms don't get people in line to sign up, then maybe our planned 'Drag Queen Boot Camp' will do the trick," Colonel Skirtsteak said as he closed his press conference and strutted in his red high heels back to his office. . . .[/QUOTE]Like a typical RethugliKKKant, you copied-and-pasted without giving "credit" to your "source".

You realize that the opposite of "woke" is "asleep". So evidently you prefer going through life asleep as opposed to wide awake. After all, if you are asleep, the FUX Snooze messaging penetrates easier.

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2726176]Hearsay noun.

Information received from other people that one cannot adequately substantiate; rumor:

"according to hearsay, Bob had managed to break his arm".

Synonyms:

Rumor gossip tittle-tattle tattle idle chatter idle talk mere talk report stories tales tidbits bavardage on dit Kaffeeklatsch labrish shu-shu bruit.

What is pathetic is that guys like you cannot acknowledge the FACT that Nancy's January 6 committee is dishonest and totally discredited.

The committee's star witness, White House assistant Cassidy Hutchinson, testified under oath that President Trump lost control of himself after the Capitol riot began. This is a stunning charge. Too bad it is not true.

"The problem is her testimony is 100 percent hearsay. Nothing backs it up. The committee could have illuminated Ms. Hutchinson's allegations by subpoenaing the Secret Service agents involved. The committee did not do that and did not explain why not.

But I can tell you why the Secret Service wasn't called. The agents would have contradicted Cassidy Hutchinson, that's why. ".

So here is the lack of integrity on the part of the committee: They knew Hutchinson testimony was third hand and could not be substantiated but they brought her forth anyway with the sole purpose to smear Trump. They knew that the leftwing media would run with the story and not question it for at least one new cycle. The key relevant point is that the committee refused to call the 2 FBI witnesses who had firsthand knowledge of what really happened. You do understand what firsthand means?

This is undeniable proof that the purpose of the committee was: 1. Smear Trump one more time and to hopefully prevent him from running for President, 2. To take the spotlight off the Biden administration's colossal economic failures before the November election, and 3. To throw some more red meat at party loyalists like yourself.

So, this public flogging has become a sanity test. I understand that you hate Trump. Fine, that is your right. But is your hatred clouding your judgement. To refuse to acknowledge the truth of what I have just described is irrational. There are no 2 sides to this. Just imagine if the situation was reversed and it was Republicans running a sham Soviet style public inquiry on Joe Biden with the outcome already preestablished before the first witness testifies. And further imagine that there were key 1st hand witnesses that were not called to testify under oath because their testimony would contradict the partisan hearsay testimony against Biden. You would be irate. Thus, the committee is totally discredited, and you would realize this fact if you were rational.[/QUOTE]Hey AxeH. Stop parroting FUX Snooze.

When a person says "What 'personX' told me was that the Mango Mussolini grabbed for the steering wheel. ", they [B]are not[/B] saying that they were there. They are saying what they were [B]told[/B]. In an actual trial, this may or may not be classified as "hearsay" depending upon the circumstances. See, the issue is that Ornato told Hutchinson what was related to him [B]by an agent who was in the vehicle[/B] and was present in the room when the story was told. The agent who was in the vehicle could have spoken up then-and there and called BS. He didn't. There's a cure for this, though. Just have the two parties that were [B]in the freaking room[/B] when Ornato told Hutchinson the story [B]testify under oath[/B]. But they haven't and they won't.

What you tRUMPers fail to grasp is that [B]the committee hearings are not a trial[/B]. You may not like it but you had your chance to have an actual bi-partisan commission but the dumber-than-dogshit RethugliKKKants refused. So you made your bed and now you've got to sleep there.

Ahhh, yes, undeniable proof. You, of course, don't show any of this proof. Gee, I wonder why? Maybe because this proof exists in your mind only.

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2726176]Hearsay noun.

Information received from other people that one cannot adequately substantiate; rumor:

"according to hearsay, Bob had managed to break his arm".

Synonyms:

Rumor gossip tittle-tattle tattle idle chatter idle talk mere talk report stories tales tidbits bavardage on dit Kaffeeklatsch labrish shu-shu bruit.

What is pathetic is that guys like you cannot acknowledge the FACT that Nancy's January 6 committee is dishonest and totally discredited.

The committee's star witness, White House assistant Cassidy Hutchinson, testified under oath that President Trump lost control of himself after the Capitol riot began. This is a stunning charge. Too bad it is not true.

"The problem is her testimony is 100 percent hearsay. Nothing backs it up. [/QUOTE]Axel Heist is 100% wrong in her assertion:

Cassidy Hutchinson's testimony contained numerous direct quotes coming from TrumpShit's own mouth.

Directly quoting criminals is not heresay.

It is often damning testimony accepted in all courts.

And often the key to tricky convictions.

Like TrumpShit will eventually get.

Anybody who does not realize there is a stamped of insiders all trying now to tell the truth today to bring down TrumpShit.

Are naive fools.

TrumpShit runs his operations like a mob boss, trying to be untouchable.

Never any sinister orders in writing.

An arm's length distance from his crimes.

Much like how he got Cohen jailed for bribing Story Daniels.

Insiders will bring TrumpSht down. Right now they are competing for clemency from DOJ.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2725646] There would be hundreds of thousands of people who would not be dead now in Ukraine and Afghanistan had Trump been re-elected but it is worth it for you. You do not have to deal with hit mean tweets.[/QUOTE]That's so laughable, even you don't believe it. Your crocodile tears are touching for Ukrainians and Afghans. Agent Orange still manage to do far worst, with close to half a million American COVID deaths.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2725646]Adjust to what? Not reading twitter? Not following Trump in the news? How did you suffer so with Trump?

WTF are you talking about? I have been short Biden's market and done better than most. Lately, there has been some pain but I have added to my positions. I have done better than anyone else I know.

Are you so dense you do not see the suffering of others? For a guy making constant noise about Trump, you are even more self-absorbed than he is. [/QUOTE]What now? "Dense", is it you say? Whoa! I must have struck a nerve!

You say that, like Agent Orange's mad fuel induced rants and raves on Twitter didn't have CONSEQUENCES, to the lives of suffering Americans.

If America was looking for an anodyne president, to ease their suffering, under Agent Orange, they only experience "heartburn".

[u]Agent Orange's "Ode to Tweet":[/u]
-tweets that tell you to take "Clorox Bleach" for COVID and watch what happens.
-tweets that tell Latin Americans they are rapists, job stealing, taco bowl immigrants.
-tweets that incite violence.
-tweets that incite an attempted insurrection / coup.
-tweets that lie about rigged elections and place election workers lives in harms way.
-mad, racist tweets that -embraces and endorses violence of one group over another.
-mad, racist tweets that endorses white supremacy factions (ie. Proud Boys, Oath Keepers, Biker Gangs, KKK).
-mad, racist tweets that and other right-wing militias and extremist groups.
-The now infamous tweet ordering followers to come to the. See. On January 6. "Will be huge!" he declared. (knowing full well his "cult faithless" were weaponized and ready to KILL Mike Pense, Nancy Pelosi and others).

Need I go on? Why else are there literally reams of websites / pages on the internet and tweeter verse, that are littered with his racist, bigoted lies, delusional rants, buffoonery and gaffes.

His presidency is one big blooper real. Still incredulous?

[U]Here's more:[/U]

[URL]https://www.cheatsheet.com/entertainment/trumps-worst-tweets-so-far.html/ [/URL]
[URL]https://news.sky.com/story/us-election-donald-trumps-45-most-controversial-tweets-12098204[/URL]
[URL]https://www.forbes.com/pictures/flji45elmm/donald-trumps-10-most-of/[/URL]
[URL]https://www.wired.com/story/tweets-got-trump-banned-far-from-worst/[/URL]
[URL]https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/01/19/upshot/trump-complete-insult-list.html[/URL]
[URL]https://www.huffpost.com/entry/worst-trump-quotes_n_5756e8e6e4b07823f9514fb1[/URL]
[URL]https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/donald-trumps-meanest-twitter-insults-223222/[/URL]
[URL]https://news.sky.com/story/trumps-tweets-infamous-offensive-and-bizarre-posts-by-atrealdonaldtrump-12182992[/URL]

Well, if that's not clear enough yet, that mad capped, unhinged racist, misinformed, mad ranting [B]tweets[/B] from a standing president, [B]much like spoken words[/B], have dire consequences to suffering Americans (especially a president with close to 1/2 million Americans COVID deaths under their watch), I don't know what is.

But perhaps [B] you're the one, just too "dense" to understand. [/B].

His racist hate speeches/tweets, lying, dishonesty, spreading falsehoods, misinformation and untruths either by written words, spoken words or via tweeter are tantamount and absolutely did cause wide spread untold suffering among Americans.

But it's clear now, [b]YOU ARE[/b] maybe [b] too "dense"[/b] to grasp, the basic traits one should look for in a good president, that governs for ALL Americans. Americans are still suffering in the wake of is ineptitude.

BTW, I'll take a little economic suffering from a standing president over getting "Clorox" killed by one.

[QUOTE=Spidy;2726313]That's so laughable, even you don't believe it. Your crocodile tears are touching for Ukrainians and Afghans. Agent Orange still manage to do far worst, with close to half a million American COVID deaths.[/QUOTE]Yeah, you just lost taking anyone taking your seriously after that comment. Biden ran on shutting down the virus not the country and more people died under him than Trump. Then you had the experts like Fauci and Biden himself mouthing off about the pandemic of the unvaxxed and both were vaxxed x 4 and got Covid.

You have not one shred of objective proof that Trump being president had anything to do with Covid deaths. You dumb Dems just find a narrative, any narrative, to blame Trump for Covid and go with it.

Every single intervention you have criticized him for (masks, quarantines, travel bans, lockdowns, and finally vaccines) has not just been an utter failure but often harmful to the public. The latest narration debacle is some team of doctors he dissolved in 2018 could have stopped the pandemic, and the only reason you have gone for that is everything else has failed.

I do not know anyone who took the injecting bleach comment seriously. I thought it was a joke, and everyone in the media called it stupid at the time. But no one thought Biden saying "if you get vaccinated, you will not get Covid" was a joke. Yet for some reason, you dumb Dems take a stupid comment / joke as one of great importance, and give Biden being dead wrong a pass. The objective people here know that is because you dumb Dems are a bunch of lying hypocrites.

No one is taking you seriously now Spidy. You rank up there with Eih telling us how great the USA is doing from Thailand and what a splendid president Jimmy Carter was. I will read your posts like I read his, for comic relief.

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2726176]Hearsay noun.

Information received from other people that one cannot adequately substantiate; rumor:

"according to hearsay, Bob had managed to break his arm".

Synonyms:

Rumor gossip tittle-tattle tattle idle chatter idle talk mere talk report stories tales tidbits bavardage on dit Kaffeeklatsch labrish shu-shu bruit.

What is pathetic is that guys like you cannot acknowledge the FACT that Nancy's January 6 committee is dishonest and totally discredited.

The committee's star witness, White House assistant Cassidy Hutchinson, testified under oath that President Trump lost control of himself after the Capitol riot began. This is a stunning charge. Too bad it is not true.

"The problem is her testimony is 100 percent hearsay. Nothing backs it up. The committee could have illuminated Ms. Hutchinson's allegations by subpoenaing the Secret Service agents involved. The committee did not do that and did not explain why not.

But I can tell you why the Secret Service wasn't called. The agents would have contradicted Cassidy Hutchinson, that's why. ".

So here is the lack of integrity on the part of the committee: They knew Hutchinson testimony was third hand and could not be substantiated but they brought her forth anyway with the sole purpose to smear Trump. They knew that the leftwing media would run with the story and not question it for at least one new cycle. The key relevant point is that the committee refused to call the 2 FBI witnesses who had firsthand knowledge of what really happened. You do understand what firsthand means?[/QUOTE]And once again, pathetic!

I will post a few excerpts from a solid article written by real lawyers that flushes your "hearsay" theory down the toilet. But first this.

If I'm subpoenaed by a congressional committee, I don't have a luxury to choose what to say. If Axel Heyst told me that Bob had broken his arm, it's my duty -- because I'm testifying UNDER OATH -- to inform the Congress that Axel Heyst has told me about Bob's broken arm.

That's not a hearsay / rumor about Bob. I have no way to determine whether that knucklehead Bob has really broken his arm. My duty is to simply tell the truth about the conversation with Axel Heyst and inform the Congress that Axel Heyst has provided me with the info about Bob who managed to brake his fucking arm somehow.

The Congress then has an option to issue a subpoena for Axel Heyst to confirm or deny the story about things he told me about Bob's broken arm, but there is a pickle: Axel Heyst has been claiming some phony executive privilege thus refusing to fucking testify about that fucking arm, that fucking conversation, that fucking Bob, and fucking everything.

It seems to me that Axel Heyst believes that as long as he (and a bunch of his cultist friends) are refusing to testify, he can stick to that ridiculous "hearsay" narrative. Then he and his cultist friends can go ahead and claim that a career government employee would happily lie through her teeth under oath and put herself in a real legal jeopardy.

For fucking what?

This "hearsay" theory is as laughable as any other "defense" you fellas are so desperately trying to re-invent to protect your cult leader. RE-invent because there is nothing new about it. All this nonsense has been raised many times during these 60+ Trump lawsuits thrown out all over the country. This POS "hearsay" saga will meet the same end.

Enough about this bullshit already. Here are the excerpts from a great article on the subject matter. Emphasis mine. Full text at the link below.

Law and Crime.

[URL]https://lawandcrime.com/jan-6-committee/house-judiciary-gop-claimed-mark-meadows-aides-blockbuster-testimony-was-literally-all-hearsay-evidence-the-truth-is-more-complicated[/URL]

[QUOTE]As the top aide for former President Donald Trumps ex-chief of staff delivered a blow-by-blow account Tuesday of her version of conversations with others in the then-presidents inner circle in the lead-up to Jan. 6, 2021, the official Twitter account for Republicans on the House Judiciary Committee launched a partially specious counterattack.

Its literally all hearsay evidence, tweeted @JudiciaryGOP, a committee whose Republican members are led by Trump loyalist Rep. Jim Jordan of Ohio. What a joke.

[b]Jordan refused earlier this year to cooperate with the Jan. 6 Committee[/b], and the House Judiciary Republicans whom he leads largely misstated and oversimplified the Federal Rules of Evidence the rules with which the lawmakers overseeing the courts should be familiar.
[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE]The first issue with the GOPs tweet is its wholesale approach to the testimony: its literally all hearsay. Thats not entirely accurate. While some of the testimony almost surely would be considered hearsay in a court of law, some of it would not, and the distinctions are far more complicated than the all-or-nothing assertion made by the GOPs tweet.

[b]The second issue with the tweet is that Cassidy Hutchinson wasnt testifying in a court of law. Therefore, the rules of evidence do not apply. Evidence rules apply to criminal and civil lawsuits tried before a judge and sometimes a jury. They do not apply to congressional hearings, which are fact-finding missions at their core. So, the hearsay assertion as applied to the Committee hearings is ultimately irrelevant. [/b]
[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE] In a court of law, some of Hutchinsons most stunning (and reportedly to-be-disputed) testimony might be considered excludable hearsay. Her testimony about Trump allegedly trying to grab the steering wheel of the armored vehicle... recounted events relayed to her by then-Deputy Chief of Staff Tony Ornato...

Im the fing president, Trump reportedly yelled while in the car. Take me up to the Capitol now!

Hutchinson said that, according to Ornato, Trump then reached up toward the front of the vehicle to grab at the steering wheel.

Engel, then the head of Trumps security detail, then allegedly grabbed Trumps hand and told him to take his hand off the wheel. Trump then allegedly turned on Engel himself, using his free hand to lunge toward the agent, Hutchinson said.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE]This line of testimony could potentially be considered inadmissible hearsay, [b]if Hutchinson was testifying at trial...[/b]

However, as Harwin ([b]a former federal prosecutor[/b]) explained, [b]if Ornato himself was being charged with a crime or was a party to a lawsuit, his statement might not be considered hearsay at all, and instead would be deemed an admission of a party-opponent (and, therefore admissible).[/b]

But Hutchinson could testify about other things she saw and observed.

[b]Just because you see something and you testify about your own personal observation, thats not necessarily hearsay[/b], Harwin said. [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2726336]And once again, pathetic!

I will post a few excerpts from a solid article written by real lawyers that flushes your "hearsay" theory down the toilet. But first this.

If I'm subpoenaed by a congressional committee, I don't have a luxury to choose what to say. If Axel Heyst told me that Bob had broken his arm, it's my duty -- because I'm testifying UNDER OATH -- to inform the Congress that Axel Heyst has told me about Bob's broken arm.

That's not a hearsay / rumor about Bob. I have no way to determine whether that knucklehead Bob has really broken his arm. My duty is to simply tell the truth about the conversation with Axel Heyst and inform the Congress that Axel Heyst has provided me with the info about Bob who managed to brake his fucking arm somehow.

The Congress then has an option to issue a subpoena for Axel Heyst to confirm or deny the story about things he told me about Bob's broken arm, but there is a pickle: Axel Heyst has been claiming some phony executive privilege thus refusing to fucking testify about that fucking arm, that fucking conversation, that fucking Bob, and fucking everything.

It seems to me that Axel Heyst believes that as long as he (and a bunch of his cultist friends) are refusing to testify, he can stick to that ridiculous "hearsay" narrative. Then he and his cultist friends can go ahead and claim that a career government employee would happily lie through her teeth under oath and put herself in a real legal jeopardy.

For fucking what?

This "hearsay" theory is as laughable as any other "defense" you fellas are so desperately trying to re-invent to protect your cult leader. RE-invent because there is nothing new about it. All this nonsense has been raised many times during these 60+ Trump lawsuits thrown out all over the country. This POS "hearsay" saga will meet the same end.[/QUOTE]You are absolutely correct. I would say it slightly differently but it all comes to the same place.

AxelHeyst has been watching too many episodes of Law & Order. Hearsay may not be accepted in a trial. But absolutely it is acceptable in a Congressional Hearing. What Axel didn't know is that the Congressional Hearing is not a trial. They are functioning like a Grand Jury and listening to evidence. Hearsay may lead to witnesses with direct involvement or knowledge of the events. So while "hearsay evidence" may not be used at a future trial, the Congressional Committee is absolutely entitled to listen to it and issue subpoenas to others who may have direct knowledge.

If charges are referred and a trial occurs later that "hearsay" may or may not be useable. Generally not, however there are exceptions.

Score:

Xpartan - 1 for a far better understanding.

AxelHeyst - 0 not understanding the difference between a trial and Congressional hearings.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2726319]Yeah, you just lost taking anyone taking your seriously after that comment. Biden ran on shutting down the virus not the country and more people died under him than Trump. Then you had the experts like Fauci and Biden himself mouthing off about the pandemic of the unvaxxed and both were vaxxed x 4 and got Covid.

You have not one shred of objective proof that Trump being president had anything to do with Covid deaths. You dumb Dems just find a narrative, any narrative, to blame Trump for Covid and go with it.

Every single intervention you have criticized him for (masks, quarantines, travel bans, lockdowns, and finally vaccines) has not just been an utter failure but often harmful to the public. The latest narration debacle is some team of doctors he dissolved in 2018 could have stopped the pandemic, and the only reason you have gone for that is everything else has failed.

I do not know anyone who took the injecting bleach comment seriously. I thought it was a joke, and everyone in the media called it stupid at the time. But no one thought Biden saying "if you get vaccinated, you will not get Covid" was a joke. Yet for some reason, you dumb Dems take a stupid comment / joke as one of great importance, and give Biden being dead wrong a pass. The objective people here know that is because you dumb Dems are a bunch of lying hypocrites.

No one is taking you seriously now Spidy. You rank up there with Eih telling us how great the USA is doing from Thailand and what a splendid president Jimmy Carter was. I will read your posts like I read his, for comic relief.[/QUOTE][blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue]

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Or, as Repubs would say, "The Worstest Mostest Terriblest Great Recession of all time"! LOL.

[B]One chart shows why an official recession call isn't coming anytime soon[/B]

[URL]https://finance.yahoo.com/news/recession-economy-chart-explains-july-2022-153839171.html?.tsrc=372[/URL]

My god. The charted and cited GDP Growth and Jobs Creation results and trends after Trump took office and passed his $2. 5 Trillion failed economic "stimulus" bill vs what Biden has accomplished in just 18 months were truly pathetic. Biden has done a better job of recovering us from the Trump presidency disaster than even I thought.

Biden has created a MILLION more jobs in just the first 6 months of 2022 than in the ENTIRETY of Trump's "best" pre Trump's Pandemic year of 2019!

After which Trump's godawful economic decisions since at least 2018 wiped out 10+ MILLION jobs!

Still, typically pro Repub Mainstream Media (CNN included, I am sure) kept telling its viewers all through the 2020 presidential election campaign that Trump should spend more time talking up his good economy. LOL. Seriously.

You know, the critical election factor that many people gullible enough to believe MSM's self-serving spin on it think is better handled by Repubs than by Dems, don't you know.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2726319]Yeah, you just lost taking anyone taking your seriously after that comment. Biden ran on shutting down the virus not the country and more people died under him than Trump. Then you had the experts like Fauci and Biden himself mouthing off about the pandemic of the unvaxxed and both were vaxxed x 4 and got Covid.

You have not one shred of objective proof that Trump being president had anything to do with Covid deaths. You dumb Dems just find a narrative, any narrative, to blame Trump for Covid and go with it.

Every single intervention you have criticized him for (masks, quarantines, travel bans, lockdowns, and finally vaccines) has not just been an utter failure but often harmful to the public. The latest narration debacle is some team of doctors he dissolved in 2018 could have stopped the pandemic, and the only reason you have gone for that is everything else has failed.

I do not know anyone who took the injecting bleach comment seriously. I thought it was a joke, and everyone in the media called it stupid at the time. But no one thought Biden saying "if you get vaccinated, you will not get Covid" was a joke. Yet for some reason, you dumb Dems take a stupid comment / joke as one of great importance, and give Biden being dead wrong a pass. The objective people here know that is because you dumb Dems are a bunch of lying hypocrites.

No one is taking you seriously now Spidy. You rank up there with Eih telling us how great the USA is doing from Thailand and what a splendid president Jimmy Carter was. I will read your posts like I read his, for comic relief.[/QUOTE]You don't know anybody who took the injecting bleach comment seriously? Really? Because lots of RethugliKKKants did. Why else did calls to poison control centers go up in the days and weeks following his "joke". [URL]https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/04/25/845015236/nyc-poison-control-sees-uptick-in-calls-after-trumps-disinfectant-comments[/URL] and [URL]https://www.forbes.com/sites/robertglatter/2020/04/25/calls-to-poison-centers-spike--after-the-presidents-comments-about-using-disinfectants-to-treat-coronavirus/?sh=d3eb5f011574[/URL] and [URL]https://www.poison.med.wayne.edu/updates-content/kstytapp2qfstf0pkacdxmz943u1hs[/URL] and [URL]https://www.kansascity.com/news/coronavirus/article242318056.html[/URL].

All one needs to do is to google "poison control calls after trump inject disinfectant remarks". There are hundreds of articles.

This is something that RethugliKKKants can't seem to wrap their minds around. [B]Words matter[/B]. When someone like tRUMP says "Why don't we look into injecting disinfectant as a cure for COVID", thousands of his supporters start drinking bleach martinis. [B]You[/B] may have thought it was a joke but thousands of tRUMP supporters didn't. And tRUMP didn't think it was a joke either because he said that he never jokes. [URL]https://www.politico.com/news/2020/06/23/trump-joking-slowing-coronavirus-testing-335459[/URL].

Words matter. Ask any of the traitors who tried to overthrow the Government on January 6th, 2021. They [B]all[/B] said that they were there because tRUMP wanted them to be there and wanted them to do what they did. [URL]https://www.newsweek.com/fact-check-did-trump-say-peacefully-patriotically-march-capitol-1561718[/URL].

"We're gathered together in the heart of our nation's Capitol for one very, very basic and simple reason, to save our democracy. ".

"We will not let them silence your voices. We're not going to let it happen. Not going to let it happen. ".

"Our country has had enough. We will not take it anymore and that's what this is all about. To use a favorite term that all of you people really came up with, we will stop the steal. ".

"That's what they've done and what they're doing. We will never give up. We will never concede, it doesn't happen. You don't concede when there's theft involved. ".

"When you catch somebody in a fraud, you're allowed to go by very different rules. ".

"Let them get out. Let the weak ones get out. This is a time for strength. It's all part of the comprehensive assault on our democracy and the American people to finally standing up and saying, 'No. ' This crowd is again a testament to it. ".

"You will have an illegitimate president, that's what you'll have. And we can't let that happen. ".

"We will not be intimidated into accepting the hoaxes and the lies that we've been forced to believe over the past several weeks. We've amassed overwhelming evidence about a fake election. ".

"We're going to see whether or not we have great and courageous leaders or whether or not we have leaders that should be ashamed of themselves throughout history, throughout eternity, they'll be ashamed. And you know what? If they do the wrong thing, we should never ever forget that they did. Never forget. We should never ever forget. ".

Keep bringing the traitors before the bench.

"USA District Judge Dabney L. Friedrich condemned Reffitt's conduct in handing down an 87-month sentence, saying in a nearly six-hour-long hearing that his views espousing political violence were 'absurd,' 'delusional' and "way outside of the mainstream. What Reffitt and others did at the Capitol 'is the antithesis of patriotism,' Friedrich said, adding: "Not only are they not patriots, they are a direct threat to our democracy, and will be punished as such. ".

[URL]https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2022/08/01/reffitt-sentence-jan6/[/URL]

[QUOTE=PVMonger;2726701]You don't know anybody who took the injecting bleach comment seriously? Really?.[/QUOTE]Trump was dead serious when he made the bleach comments. The context and atmosphere were as serious as a heart attack, as was his tone. He tried to walk it back later once he found out he made a complete fool of himself, calling it a "joke," but no can do. Biden made great use of this in the debates.

Watch Dr. Birx's reaction.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d57zJr82dhQ[/URL]

[QUOTE=PVMonger;2726701]You don't know anybody who took the injecting bleach comment seriously? Really? Because lots of RethugliKKKants did. Why else did calls to poison control centers go up in the days and weeks following his "joke". [URL]https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/04/25/845015236/nyc-poison-control-sees-uptick-in-calls-after-trumps-disinfectant-comments[/URL] and [URL]https://www.forbes.com/sites/robertglatter/2020/04/25/calls-to-poison-centers-spike--after-the-presidents-comments-about-using-disinfectants-to-treat-coronavirus/?sh=d3eb5f011574[/URL] and [URL]https://www.poison.med.wayne.edu/updates-content/kstytapp2qfstf0pkacdxmz943u1hs[/URL] and [URL]https://www.kansascity.com/news/coronavirus/article242318056.html[/URL].

All one needs to do is to google "poison control calls after trump inject disinfectant remarks". There are hundreds of articles.[/QUOTE]Yeah, there were hundreds of articles about dozens of phone calls to poison control. I am surprised you dumb Dems did not impeach Trump over that.

[QUOTE=PVMonger;2726701]This is something that RethugliKKKants can't seem to wrap their minds around. [B]Words matter[/B]. When someone like tRUMP says "Why don't we look into injecting disinfectant as a cure for COVID", thousands of his supporters start drinking bleach martinis.[/QUOTE]And you are complaining about that? I thought you wanted all Trump's amoral, racist, and evil supporters dead. Maybe now you should not impeach Trump but give him a medal. Can you make up your mind about why Trump is evil?

By the way, where are all the articles about people who died from Covid after Biden said you could not get it if vaccinated? Where are those hundreds of articles?

When a Republican talks, words mean things. When a Democrat talks, what does the word words mean? Does that not depend on what your definition of is is?

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2726336]And once again, pathetic!

I will post a few excerpts from a solid article written by real lawyers that flushes your "hearsay" theory down the toilet. But first this.

If I'm subpoenaed by a congressional committee, I don't have a luxury to choose what to say. If Axel Heyst told me that Bob had broken his arm, it's my duty -- because I'm testifying UNDER OATH -- to inform the Congress that Axel Heyst has told me about Bob's broken arm.

That's not a hearsay / rumor about Bob. I have no way to determine whether that knucklehead Bob has really broken his arm. My duty is to simply tell the truth about the conversation with Axel Heyst and inform the Congress that Axel Heyst has provided me with the info about Bob who managed to brake his fucking arm somehow.

The Congress then has an option to issue a subpoena for Axel Heyst to confirm or deny the story about things he told me about Bob's broken arm, but there is a pickle: Axel Heyst has been claiming some phony executive privilege thus refusing to fucking testify about that fucking arm, that fucking conversation, that fucking Bob, and fucking everything.[/QUOTE]Imagine being in a meeting with two other people, AxeH and Elvis.

AxeH says "Elvis just told me that the President of the company punched out his aide while on the way to the airport". (Elvis was in the car with the President of the company and saw the incident).

If the story was false, (ie. Elvis never said what AxeH related) would Elvis just sit there quietly and not say a word? Not on your life. He would, [B]right then and there[/B] refute what AxeH said. Because that's what people do. If somebody flat out lies [B]in your presence[/B] about something you said, you call bullshit immediately.

[QUOTE=Paulie97;2726707]Keep bringing the traitors before the bench.

"USA District Judge Dabney L. Friedrich condemned Reffitt's conduct in handing down an 87-month sentence, saying in a nearly six-hour-long hearing that his views espousing political violence were 'absurd,' 'delusional' and "way outside of the mainstream. What Reffitt and others did at the Capitol 'is the antithesis of patriotism,' Friedrich said, adding: "Not only are they not patriots, they are a direct threat to our democracy, and will be punished as such. ".

[URL]https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2022/08/01/reffitt-sentence-jan6/[/URL][/QUOTE]Yeah, some good news for a change.

Xpartan, in order to defend Pelosi's disgraceful congressional committee proceedings, you are not only misrepresenting what I posted, you are dancing around what actually occurred in the house of Representatives. Why won't you address the relevant issue? Why were the two eyewitnesses to whatever actually occurred in the limo not called to testify under oath? Your silence about the Secret Service agent's firsthand information being ignored by the committee and your foolish attempt to dance around the issue confirms your absolute political bias and concedes the point that the House committee is not interested in finding the truth about what actually occurred on Jan 6. Shame on you and shame on your party.

Unfortunately, from your point of view these hearings failed. Nobody tuned in to watch and the hearings failed to distract the American people from the colossal failures and outrageous behavior of the Biden administration. Namely the economy "stupid", the border chaos, the violence in the streets of all Democratic party controlled cities, and the communist critical race theory and trany indoctrination being forced on our school children. So, November is fast approaching. I can't wait.

The following is an excerpt from the following article. I have chosen not to include some parts because they relate to the "local politics" of the area from where the person who wrote the article lives. However, the article makes some excellent points. [URL]https://news.yahoo.com/ray-buursma-call-trump-supporters-041513238.html[/URL].

Yes, Trump committed treason.

The Jan. 6 hearings are completed (maybe). Anyone with a smattering of gray matter between the ears recognizes Donald Trump did the following:

1. Rejected the results of a legitimate election.

2. Made illegal, immoral and unethical attempts to maintain his presidency.

3. Gathered supporters for a rally in Washington, the. See. , on Jan. 6, 2021.

4. Encouraged those supporters to preempt the proceedings which would announce the next president.

5. Took no sincere action for three hours to end an attempted insurrection at the Capitol, but instead attempted to contact senators so they would halt constitutional proceedings.

6. Chose to sacrifice the well being and even the life of Vice President Pence, if necessary, so Pence would not declare Biden to be America's next president.

None of this is new, and we need not rehash specifics of Trump's misbehavior. His offenses have been presented over and over, culminating with the last bipartisan Congressional hearing less than two weeks ago.

What of those who still support Trump?

Today we address not Trump, but those who still back him. Let's start by defining two terms.

Treason is attempting to overthrow a nation's government.

A traitor is a person who commits treason.

Based on these definitions and his actions above, Trump is clearly a traitor, but what of the tens of millions who still condone him? What do we call those who committed no overt treasonous act but still stand behind the orchestrator of Jan. 6?

Well, what do we call one who condones a wife beater, a child molester, or a thief? He is not guilty of a crime, but is he an enabler? A facilitator? A booster? An ally? He certainly is reprehensible, but for now, let's call him a "supporter."

Trump supporters come in two types. Some blatantly and overtly endorse the usurper. They still wear MAGA hats, fly Trump flags and display his yard signs and bumper stickers.

Others are closet supporters. They side with Trump but seldom announce their backing, for doing so would appear morally awkward. They are like KKK supporters who do not don pointy white hoods, but still urge their buddies to "Have fun at the cross burning and lynching!" When asked to justify their approval for Trump, most say, "I don't like Trump, but I like his policies."

"Liking policies" might cover a few sins, but "liking policies" can never, ever justify an attempter insurrection or coup, and Trump did nothing less. Atonement is impossible without repentance, and Trump, clearly, is unrepentant. There is no way around this. Remaining a Trump supporter makes one vile to America, vile to the Constitution, and vile to American values.

Jesus, in Matthew 5: 27-28, stated he who lusts after a woman has already committed adultery in his heart. That being so, why should those who condone the traitorous leader of an insurrection not be called traitors?

The author of the article goes on to ask a few questions of a particular local politician. Maybe we ought to ask the same questions of the RethugliKKKans who post here:

First, do you dispute Trump took the six actions listed above? If no, please explain.

Second, do you consider those actions treasonous? If no, please explain.

Third, do you still support Trump? If so, please explain.

[QUOTE=Elvis;2726319] ... You have not one shred of objective proof that Trump being president had anything to do with Covid deaths. You dumb Dems just find a narrative, any narrative, to blame Trump for Covid and go with it.[/QUOTE]

Agent Orange's dereliction of duty, ineptitude and arrogance to act when the data on the fast spreading virus, across various countries was present to him, on several occasions (before it exponentially got out of hand), and he arrogantly choose to ignore his the intelligence information and data coming from his aids and advisors.

He had months to act before the severity of the virus got out of hand and save American lives and he did nothing. Naturally, with his racist and bigoted arrogance (for anything Obama), he threw out the Pandemic Response Playbook, thereby [b]laying a very clear, direct path and an unequivocal trail of ineptitude and incompetence, [/b] that most certainly lead to the many hundreds of thousands of preventable COVID deaths.

[QUOTE=Elvis;2726319][b]Every single intervention you have criticized him for (masks, quarantines, travel bans, lockdowns, and finally vaccines) [/b]has not just been an utter failure but often harmful to the public. The latest narration debacle is some team of doctors he dissolved in 2018 could have stopped the pandemic, and the only reason you have gone for that is everything else has failed.

I do not know anyone who took the injecting bleach comment seriously. I thought it was a joke, and everyone in the media called it stupid at the time. But no one thought Biden saying "if you get vaccinated, you will not get Covid" was a joke. Yet for some reason, you dumb Dems take a stupid comment / joke as one of great importance, and give Biden being dead wrong a pass. The objective people here know that is because you dumb Dems are a bunch of lying hypocrites.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=PV Monger;2726701][b]Lots of RethugliKKKants did! [/b] You don't know anybody who took the injecting bleach comment seriously? Really? Because lots of RethugliKKKants did. Why else did calls to poison control centers go up in the days and weeks following his "joke". https://www.npr.org/sections/coronav...ctant-comments and https://www.forbes.com/sites/robertg...h=d3eb5f011574 and https://www.poison.med.wayne.edu/upd...kacdxmz943u1hs and https://www.kansascity.com/news/coro...242318056.html.

All one needs to do is to google "poison control calls after trump inject disinfectant remarks". There are hundreds of articles... [/QUOTE]Yep! PVM, I couldn't have said it better, myself. The criticism levied, was justly earned after the multitude of blunders and ineptitude.

[QUOTE=Elvis;2726319]No one is taking you seriously now Spidy. You rank up there with Eih telling us how great the USA is doing from Thailand and what a splendid president Jimmy Carter was. [b]I will read your posts like I read his, for comic relief.[/b] [/QUOTE]

Here it is, I thought you were one of the smarter Repubs and then you go and prove otherwise. Elvis, your posts getting funnier every time I read them and I do like the funny pages, as your posts are certainly that.

Well, Elvis, with you being a staunch purveyor of Foxy News [i]([b]hint: which is really just entertainment, but most of the time, just comic relief disguised as news[/b]),[/i] I'm sure you'll have no trouble relating to any future reports from me.

[QUOTE=Paulie97;2726707]Keep bringing the traitors before the bench.

"USA District Judge Dabney L. Friedrich condemned Reffitt's conduct in handing down an 87-month sentence, saying in a nearly six-hour-long hearing that his views espousing political violence were 'absurd,' 'delusional' and "way outside of the mainstream. What Reffitt and others did at the Capitol 'is the antithesis of patriotism,' Friedrich said, adding: "Not only are they not patriots, they are a direct threat to our democracy, and will be punished as such. ".

[URL]https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2022/08/01/reffitt-sentence-jan6/[/URL][/QUOTE]Great post! Dovetails nicely with the fallout from Agent Orange treasonous, seditious tweets, rants and actions.

As this RethugliKKKant armed rioter, Guy Reffitt, now feels the DOJ [B]"consequences boot"[/B], derived directly from the mad capped, unhinged tweets of Agent Orange.

More suffering for Americans, albeit this time, justified and well placed suffering.

[QUOTE=PVMonger;2726814]Imagine being in a meeting with two other people, AxeH and Elvis.

AxeH says "Elvis just told me that the President of the company punched out his aide while on the way to the airport". (Elvis was in the car with the President of the company and saw the incident).

If the story was false, (ie. Elvis never said what AxeH related) would Elvis just sit there quietly and not say a word? Not on your life. He would, [B]right then and there[/B] refute what AxeH said. Because that's what people do. If somebody flat out lies [B]in your presence[/B] about something you said, you call bullshit immediately. [/QUOTE]This post is beautiful! I think I will print it & frame it.

So, PV Acknowledges my critical point that the reason the Secret Service were not asked to testify in front of Nancy's inquisition is that their firsthand testimony would have been exculpatory because their testimony would have completely contradicted the third hand testimony of the woman. I am not even going to mention her name anymore. Note: some posters on this thread may not know what exculpatory means. Ha ha.

In any case PV and I agree on something. Unbelievable, but apparently true. These are his words not mine. "If somebody flat out lies in your presence about something you said, you call bullshit immediately. " Absolutely right, and that is just what the two secret service agents riding in the car with Trump on Jan 6 did. They went public with it within hours of the woman's testimony and stated categorically that what the woman told the committee never happened. They also volunteered to testify under oath in front of the committee to what they witnessed firsthand that day in the limo. But the committee did not call them. Game set match. The committee hearings are nothing more than choreographed soviet style show trial. A propaganda ballet.

Note to our literary challenged radical bm's: my reference to a "soviet style show trial" is an analogy.

So, PV may not have been aware that the 2 secret service agents came forward right after the woman testified and denied her version of what took place. The corporate news media tends not to report political news that does not support the leftwing narrative. The woman 's shocking testimony was allowed to dominate at least one news cycle before the whole truth came out. The committee knew this would happen and played the corporate news media like a violin. This is a problem worthy of further discussion, the political corruption of the 5th Estate, but not now. It is like pulling teeth on this web site to prove the committee is not concerned with finding out what really happened on Jan 6 and even now with undeniable proof presented as to their bias, I know that most if not all of the ISG radicals will refuse to concede the point. You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink.

[QUOTE=PVMonger;2726814]Imagine being in a meeting with two other people, AxeH and Elvis.

AxeH says "Elvis just told me that the President of the company punched out his aide while on the way to the airport". (Elvis was in the car with the President of the company and saw the incident).

If the story was false, (ie. Elvis never said what AxeH related) would Elvis just sit there quietly and not say a word? Not on your life. He would, right then and there refute what AxeH said.[/QUOTE]You have no idea what anyone would do, and it is a sorry ass excuse. With Russiagate, with the Kyle Rittenhouse trial and how it was covered, and with the Brett Kavanaugh hearing, you dumb Dems lost all credibility. I did not even like Kavanaugh that much. There are like five Catholics on SCOTUS already, and he is another blue blood type whose views on the 4th amendment may be at odds with mine but what you dumb Dems did not get is that after that flimsy bullshit feminist hit job on him, a repeat of Clarence Thomas, he had my support.

So we see a movie like 2000 mules and a woman who lives in another state put ballots into a ballot box wearing gloves, threw them out, and the pathetic excuse given, "it was during a pandemic don't you know", we just sit in shock. No one knows why she was wearing gloves, so why do you fools give out such an explanation?

Thing is PVM, we do not know what the fuck she was doing. She could have been stuffing the ballot box for Trump right? But you dumb Dems do not care if there was an election fraud. All you care about is the result, and if that woman is deposed, there is a chance the result you desire comes into question.

So when it came to Russiagate, Kavanaugh, Rittenhouse, Hunter Biden's laptop, and now election fraud, your goal was not truth but power, so we who vote Republican have totally tuned you out. And now you are blathering on about the significance of some second hand heresay. You have lost us again. You have shown that you have no respect for the rules of an election and want to cheat and get some group of people to disqualify Trump versus beating him in an election.

So let me repeat this fact. Russiagate was a fraud devised by Democrats and carried out by the FBI to illegally oust a duly elected president. Do you deny that PVM?

So you dumb Dems already committed fraud and tried to rig one election. That is a fact and amazingly when it came to 1-6, you dumb Dems think that had nothing to do with anything.

You are so dense it is inconceivable that people would riot and March because you were trying to commit election fraud not once but a second time. No, it had to be Trump.

If you do not care about the fraud that was Russiagate, why the hell should we care about 1-6?

[QUOTE=Spidy;2726997]Here it is, I thought you were one of the smarter Repubs and then you go and prove otherwise. Elvis, your posts getting funnier every time I read them and I do like the funny pages, as your posts are certainly that.

Well, Elvis, with you being a staunch purveyor of Foxy News [i]([b]hint: which is really just entertainment, but most of the time, just comic relief disguised as news[/b]),[/i] I'm sure you'll have no trouble relating to any future reports from me.[/QUOTE]I am not a Republican as much as I vote Republican. When Bush trashed the economy and was mongering for war all over the world and trashing the economy, I voted for Obama.

Thing is now we have another pro war idiot who is just as dense as Bush on the economy as president now. People I trust like Matt Taibbi have pointed out that the pro-war, neocon morons who wanted us to go to war in Iraq are now being sought out by Biden for advice. I think some if those fools may even switch parties. You can have them.

You think there is this huge gulf between Republicans and Democrats. Outside of his bone headed energy policy (and Bush's was boneheaded as well but in a different way), I see little difference between Biden and GW Bush. They both love war.

The best presidents in my life time (Reagan, Clinton, Obama, and Trump) all kept the peace.

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2726924]Xpartan, in order to defend Pelosi's disgraceful congressional committee proceedings, you are not only misrepresenting what I posted, you are dancing around what actually occurred in the house of Representatives. Why won't you address the relevant issue? Why were the two eyewitnesses to whatever actually occurred in the limo not called to testify under oath? Your silence about the Secret Service agent's firsthand information being ignored by the committee and your foolish attempt to dance around the issue confirms your absolute political bias and concedes the point that the House committee is not interested in finding the truth about what actually occurred on Jan 6. Shame on you and shame on your party.

Unfortunately, from your point of view these hearings failed. Nobody tuned in to watch and the hearings failed to distract the American people from the colossal failures and outrageous behavior of the Biden administration. Namely the economy "stupid", the border chaos, the violence in the streets of all Democratic party controlled cities, and the communist critical race theory and trany indoctrination being forced on our school children. So, November is fast approaching. I can't wait.[/QUOTE]Sorry, but to expect the committee to immediately stop what they're doing and call both Ornato and Engel is idiotic.

The committee will call them to testify under oath.

Besides, Ornato has a history, when not under oath, of pulling a trump.

"Two former Trump White House aides took to Twitter Wednesday to say Ornato has a pattern of denying conversations that they know took place.

"Tony Ornato lied about me too," tweeted Alyssa Farah, former White House communications director. She said that she spoke with Ornato and White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows before the forcible clearing of Lafayette Square in June 2020, in which they refused to warn reporters who were staged at the park that they needed to move.

"Tony later lied & said the exchange never happened," Farah wrote.

Olivia Troye, a former senior national security aide to Pence, took to Twitter as well to express her views of Ornato.

"Those of us who worked w / Tony know where his loyalties lie," she wrote. "he should testify under oath."

There's more. "Lawmakers on the committee said Ornato had said in his initial testimony that he was unable to recall other actions and statements by Trump on Jan. 6 that other witnesses had described in great detail."

So, Ornato and Engel [B]will testify under oath[/B]. Or at least they'll be asked to testify. Whether or not they [B]actually testify[/B] is another matter entirely.

[URL]https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/07/02/jan6-select-committee-cassidy-hutchinson-testimony-secret-service/[/URL]

But here's the thing. Let's say that you and I are having a meeting and a third person shows up. I say to that person, "Hey, ole' Axe told me {insert story here} and he was there in person. " What do [B]you[/B] do if I told a falsehood about the story? Do you stay silent? Do you speak up and correct me? I guaran-damn-tee that you'd speak up. And so would Engel if the story about what happened in the SUV was false. But he didn't say a word. Did he?

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2726773]Yeah, there were hundreds of articles about dozens of phone calls to poison control. I am surprised you dumb Dems did not impeach Trump over that.

And you are complaining about that? I thought you wanted all Trump's amoral, racist, and evil supporters dead. Maybe now you should not impeach Trump but give him a medal. Can you make up your mind about why Trump is evil?

By the way, where are all the articles about people who died from Covid after Biden said you could not get it if vaccinated? Where are those hundreds of articles?

When a Republican talks, words mean things. When a Democrat talks, what does the word words mean? Does that not depend on what your definition of is is?[/QUOTE]Can you read for comprehension?

When the Mango Mussolini said to inject disinfectant, trump supporters immediately began making bleach martinis. Because they believed what he said. [B]words matter[/B].

They also believed the Orange Moron when he said that Mexico would pay for the wall. Nobody else did, of course, but trump supporters did.

They also believed Hair Furor when he said that he had proof of the election being stolen. Nobody else did, of course, but trump supporters did.

They believed Cheeto Tweeto when he said that Chinese thermostats changed votes. Or was it Italian satellites? Nobody else did, of course, but trump supporters did.

See, that's what I mean when I say [B]words matter[/B].

But sure, deflect and say that there were only dozens of calls when the facts say otherwise. [URL]https://www.forbes.com/sites/robertglatter/2020/04/25/calls-to-poison-centers-spike--after-the-presidents-comments-about-using-disinfectants-to-treat-coronavirus/?sh=47476a4a1157[/URL].

So now that it can no longer be hidden or denied that there were eyewitnesses willing to come forth and testify under oath as to what actually took place in the famous or rather infamous limo ride, Woke Marxist propaganda agents must set to work trashing the two secret service agent's character and credibility so that their sworn testimony can be called into question on Marxist media outlets. The 2 agents have not even testified yet, but the Marxists are already attacking them. It seems very Soviet Union to me. The two secret service agents are lucky they have not been shipped off to the Aleutian Islands.

Of course, we must believe the Party's witness and her 2nd or 3rd hand, hearsay, testimony because woman never lie for political gain or personal reasons except when they accuse Woke politicians of misconduct. But for those of us who have not yet been forced to become card carrying members of the Woke Marxist New Democrat Party, an interesting question remains: who told her about what happened on the Limo ride? Another third person who saw nothing or someone actually in the Limo? But I guess this is just a trivial, unimportant question for party loyalists like yourself since we common folk are expected to shut up, fall in line, and follow the party's directive Soviet Style.

You are back on my ignore list, poncho.

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2727037]This post is beautiful! I think I will print it & frame it.

So, PV Acknowledges my critical point that the reason the Secret Service were not asked to testify in front of Nancy's inquisition is that their firsthand testimony would have been exculpatory because their testimony would have completely contradicted the third hand testimony of the woman. I am not even going to mention her name anymore. Note: some posters on this thread may not know what exculpatory means. Ha ha.

In any case PV and I agree on something. Unbelievable, but apparently true. These are his words not mine. "If somebody flat out lies in your presence about something you said, you call bullshit immediately. " Absolutely right, and that is just what the two secret service agents riding in the car with Trump on Jan 6 did. They went public with it within hours of the woman's testimony and stated categorically that what the woman told the committee never happened. They also volunteered to testify under oath in front of the committee to what they witnessed firsthand that day in the limo. But the committee did not call them. Game set match. The committee hearings are nothing more than choreographed soviet style show trial. A propaganda ballet.

Note to our literary challenged radical bm's: my reference to a "soviet style show trial" is an analogy..[/QUOTE]Did Bobby Engle dispute Ornato's story to Cassidy Hutchinson [B]while she was in the room[/B]. Nope. Did these two morons testify [B]under oath[/B]? Nope.

Case closed.

[QUOTE=PVMonger;2727158]Did Bobby Engle dispute Ornato's story to Cassidy Hutchinson [B]while she was in the room[/B]. Nope. Did these two morons testify [B]under oath[/B]? Nope.

Case closed.[/QUOTE]I see that Axel isn't engaging with the content of you and Xpartan's rebuttals but is only repeating the fallacious and simplistic right wing nut media talking points over and over. He's not capable of anymore so he marches a long like a good sheep with blinders on.

[QUOTE=PVMonger;2727110]Can you read for comprehension?

When the Mango Mussolini said to inject disinfectant, trump supporters immediately began making bleach martinis. Because they believed what he said. words matter.[/QUOTE]Again with the bleach?

Let's test your theory if words matter.

You are not going to get Covid if you get these vaccinations. [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wST_Oo1osdA[/URL].

I have another one, "Putin cannot stay in power. " [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agEaCr6InEM[/URL].

"The American people think there is inflation because the government is spending more money, simply not true. " [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTPX1ejoYdg[/URL].

As for American troops in Ukraine, Biden said "You are going to see when you go there (to Ukraine)" [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RER3Q8JAFbE[/URL].

Nah, your theory does not hold up about words meaning things. What you mean to say is when Republicans say something, words matter. That does not apply to Democrats. Democrats can be inaccurate and lie all they want.

That depends on what your definition of is is should be the motto of the Democratic Party.

KABUL — Biden is demanding answers after a precision drone strike in Afghanistan actually killed a real terrorist leader named Ayman al-Zawahiri instead of a car full of innocent children, as is tradition.

"Come on, folks, we all know what drone strikes are for," said the angry President to an LOL Surprise Doll he mistook for a member of the press. "We conduct drone strikes to kill civilians in the Middle East in hopes of stirring up multigenerational hatred for the USA Which will lead to endless war and help feed the military-industrial complex! How on earth did this actual terrorist get caught up in the mix?

Sources in the CIA revealed they briefly deviated from the standard procedure of killing innocents with Hellfire missiles to kill a terrorist, as Biden's poll numbers are down and people like it when presidents kill terrorists.

"The death of this austere religious scholar, while tragic, could produce a 3 to 4 point bump in Biden's approval ratings in time for the midterms," said Fitch Biggenslimes, a columnist for the Washington Post. "That's what really matters here. ".

Government officials assured the president they will return to their normal business of blowing up chai tea cafes and busses full of aid workers this week.

UPDATE: New reports confirm Ayman al-Zawahiri is still alive and the precision strike actually killed a busload of orphans.

[QUOTE=Villainy;2726348]You are absolutely correct. I would say it slightly differently but it all comes to the same place.

AxelHeyst has been watching too many episodes of Law & Order. Hearsay may not be accepted in a trial. But absolutely it is acceptable in a Congressional Hearing. What Axel didn't know is that the Congressional Hearing is not a trial. They are functioning like a Grand Jury and listening to evidence. Hearsay may lead to witnesses with direct involvement or knowledge of the events. So while "hearsay evidence" may not be used at a future trial, the Congressional Committee is absolutely entitled to listen to it and issue subpoenas to others who may have direct knowledge.

If charges are referred and a trial occurs later that "hearsay" may or may not be useable. Generally not, however there are exceptions..[/QUOTE]I can't see Axel being able to follow an episode of Law and Order. He's just regurgitating what he's read off right wingnut blogs, complete with all the asinine red baiting while ignoring all rebuttals. But what else do Trumpists know how to do besides play the victim? That said there are many exceptions to the hearsay rule so it's often admitted in trials. I've made that point several times and of course it's been continually ignored.

[URL]https://www.law.cornell.edu/rules/fre/rule_803[/URL]

Also you are correct about the different context, aims, and rules in Congressional hearings. Trumpists were invited but chose rather to whine and throw rocks from the sidelines with fallacious arguments / play the victim. It's true that Jim Jordan wasn't invited but he's grossly dishonest plus extremely rude and disruptive. The hearings would have seen many delays with him in the room constantly filibustering, interrupting, and trying to shout people down. The Trumpists could have chosen other, more cultured adherents to send to the Committee but did as six year olds do, took their toys and went home.

P.S. At the end of the day Jordan is a wuss like all bullies. It's hilarious when Maxine Waters tells him to shut his mouth and he complies like a good little boy. LOL.

Nor have I seen a clip of Biden saying it sourced from FUX News and the like.

Where do you imagine you saw and heard it?

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2726773]Yeah, there were hundreds of articles about dozens of phone calls to poison control. I am surprised you dumb Dems did not impeach Trump over that.

And you are complaining about that? I thought you wanted all Trump's amoral, racist, and evil supporters dead. Maybe now you should not impeach Trump but give him a medal. Can you make up your mind about why Trump is evil?

By the way, where are all the articles about people who died from Covid after Biden said you could not get it if vaccinated? Where are those hundreds of articles?

When a Republican talks, words mean things. When a Democrat talks, what does the word words mean? Does that not depend on what your definition of is is?[/QUOTE]There are tons of videos showing Trump repeatedly assuring the world that his Trump's Pandemic virus "will go away without a vaccine" as well as the one of him being deadly serious that the injection of disinfectant (bleach) to cure it ought to be looked into instead.

Have you got a link for Biden saying, "you can not get Covid if you are vaccinated"?

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2726924]Xpartan, in order to defend Pelosi's disgraceful congressional committee proceedings, you are not only misrepresenting what I posted, you are dancing around what actually occurred in the house of Representatives. Why won't you address the relevant issue? Why were the two eyewitnesses to whatever actually occurred in the limo not called to testify under oath? Your silence about the Secret Service agent's firsthand information being ignored by the committee and your foolish attempt to dance around the issue confirms your absolute political bias and concedes the point that the House committee is not interested in finding the truth about what actually occurred on Jan 6. Shame on you and shame on your party.

Unfortunately, from your point of view these hearings failed. Nobody tuned in to watch and the hearings failed to distract the American people from the colossal failures and outrageous behavior of the Biden administration. Namely the economy "stupid", the border chaos, the violence in the streets of all Democratic party controlled cities, and the communist critical race theory and trany indoctrination being forced on our school children. So, November is fast approaching. I can't wait.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=PVMonger;2727158]Did Bobby Engle dispute Ornato's story to Cassidy Hutchinson [B]while she was in the room[/B]. Nope. Did these two morons testify [B]under oath[/B]? Nope.

Case closed.[/QUOTE]As if, LOL!

He'll keep coming back with new absurdities, new deflections, more circular logic and even bigger words to try and align facts with his twisted political beliefs. But at least, he seems to quit that "hearsay" bullshit.

Legendary comedian, Jon Stewart, blasts the GOP/QOP Senate members w/r to a bill they blocked and stalled, that provides healthcare to [B]veterans who've suffered long-term illness from the burn pits[/B] from their service. Not long after, Mr. Stewart's drubbing, GOP/QOP Senate members do an about-face, with their tails tucked between their legs.

[QUOTE] ... In the days since the GOP stalled the bill, Stewart was unflinching. He went in front of cameras on Thursday to express what many Americans were feeling. Regarding Republicans about-face on the bill, Stewart said he was used to the ‘hypocrisy,’ ‘lies’ and ‘cowardice’ of politicians, [b]but I am not used to the cruelty.[/b] [/QUOTE][URL]https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/08/01/jon-stewart-veterans-burn-pits-gop-cruelty/[/URL]

On the flip-side, it was said, the Dems could stand to take notes, from Jon Stewart, when it came to Republican cruelty. Couldn't agree more...kkkk!

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2727152]So now that it can no longer be hidden or denied that there were eyewitnesses willing to come forth and testify under oath as to what actually took place in the famous or rather infamous limo ride, Woke Marxist propaganda agents must set to work trashing the two secret service agent's character and credibility so that their sworn testimony can be called into question on Marxist media outlets. The 2 agents have not even testified yet, but the Marxists are already attacking them. It seems very Soviet Union to me. The two secret service agents are lucky they have not been shipped off to the Aleutian Islands.

Of course, we must believe the Party's witness and her 2nd or 3rd hand, hearsay, testimony because woman never lie for political gain or personal reasons except when they accuse Woke politicians of misconduct. But for those of us who have not yet been forced to become card carrying members of the Woke Marxist New Democrat Party, an interesting question remains: who told her about what happened on the Limo ride? Another third person who saw nothing or someone actually in the Limo? But I guess this is just a trivial, unimportant question for party loyalists like yourself since we common folk are expected to shut up, fall in line, and follow the party's directive Soviet Style.

You are back on my ignore list, poncho.[/QUOTE]As usual, you are misrepresenting "hearsay". Again. You have been told several times what hearsay is, what it isn't and when hearsay can be accepted. You are been provided with sources from a legal perspective. Yet you refuse to listen, evidently preferring to bury your head in the sand and raise it only to listed to FUX Snooze. Repeating a lie often enough does not make it the truth, regardless of what Goebbles or the Mango Mussolini said.

Furthermore, you have refused to acknowledge that any sane person would speak up [B]immediately[/B] when they are party to a lie being told. And by "party", I mean when they are present in the room while the lie was told. Did Bobby Engle [B]immediately dispute[/B] Ornato's recounting of what happened in the SUV? Nope. Any sane person would. I would. You would. But not Engle. No siree. Not Ornato. No siree. What they did was wait until after Hutchinson's testimony to dispute what was said. Hogwash. Those are [B]not[/B] the actions of someone who is blameless. Someone who is blameless would [B]immediately refute a falsehood[/B].

Again with the "woke" term. When will you realize that the opposite of "woke" is "asleep". Evidently, RethugliKKKants prefer to go through life asleep at the switch.

This is a superb discussion (by 2 USANs) on equality.

First the present the case for equality, then they expose it for the myth that it is. And finally the present what an alternative and better world would look like, particularly for the USA but also for the whole world.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Ly4w_FHf_Q[/URL]

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2727104]You have no idea what anyone would do, and it is a sorry ass excuse. With Russiagate, with the Kyle Rittenhouse trial and how it was covered, and with the Brett Kavanaugh hearing, you dumb Dems lost all credibility. I did not even like Kavanaugh that much. There are like five Catholics on SCOTUS already, and he is another blue blood type whose views on the 4th amendment may be at odds with mine but what you dumb Dems did not get is that after that flimsy bullshit feminist hit job on him, a repeat of Clarence Thomas, he had my support.

So we see a movie like 2000 mules and a woman who lives in another state put ballots into a ballot box wearing gloves, threw them out, and the pathetic excuse given, "it was during a pandemic don't you know", we just sit in shock. No one knows why she was wearing gloves, so why do you fools give out such an explanation?

Thing is PVM, we do not know what the fuck she was doing. She could have been stuffing the ballot box for Trump right? But you dumb Dems do not care if there was an election fraud. All you care about is the result, and if that woman is deposed, there is a chance the result you desire comes into question.[/QUOTE]Facts? You wouldn't know a "fact" if it sat on your face. But you know all about "alternative facts".

"Russiagate", as you have termed it, was covered in the Mueller Report. How many people were [B]indicted[/B]? To my recollection, it was a non-zero number, wasn't it? What was it that Mueller said? As I recall, it was something to the effect of "If we could have said that Donnie the Dumbass was innocent, we would have said it. We didn't say that he was innocent. " You could read the Mueller Report but I know you won't.

All you have is conspiracy theories. You don't have facts, you have theories. Rudy G even admitted it. "We have lots of theories but no evidence". [URL]https://thehill.com/homenews/house/3531342-rusty-bowers-says-giuliani-told-him-weve-got-lots-of-theories-we-just-dont-have-the-evidence/[/URL].

Even Bill Barr admitted that "2000 Mules" was bullshit. But RethugliKKKants keep bringing it up as proof. [URL]https://theweek.com/jan-6-committee/1014350/barr-talks-trump-the-big-lie-and-2000-mules-during-2nd-jan-6-hearing[/URL].

And the issue with all of this is that RethugliKKKants keep trying to convince everybody that their evidence-free "proof" is fact. The only people they convince with this nonsense is other RethugliKKKants who have been breathing their own exhaust for so long that they think it smells good. You keep going down the same rabbit-hole and think that you find something different every time you do. You don't. It is just same stuff over-and-over-again.

And you are still doing it. That's why we tune you out.

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2727037]This post is beautiful! I think I will print it & frame it.

So, PV Acknowledges my critical point that the reason the Secret Service were not asked to testify in front of Nancy's inquisition is that their firsthand testimony would have been exculpatory because their testimony would have completely contradicted the third hand testimony of the woman. I am not even going to mention her name anymore. Note: some posters on this thread may not know what exculpatory means. Ha ha.

In any case PV and I agree on something. Unbelievable, but apparently true. These are his words not mine. "If somebody flat out lies in your presence about something you said, you call bullshit immediately. " Absolutely right, and that is just what the two secret service agents riding in the car with Trump on Jan 6 did. They went public with it within hours of the woman's testimony and stated categorically that what the woman told the committee never happened. They also volunteered to testify under oath in front of the committee to what they witnessed firsthand that day in the limo. But the committee did not call them. Game set match. The committee hearings are nothing more than choreographed soviet style show trial. A propaganda ballet..[/QUOTE][B]"If somebody flat out lies in your presence about something you said, you call bullshit immediately. "[/B] (highlights are mine).

Here's the definition of "immediately". [URL]https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/immediately[/URL].

Please be so kind as to point out where in the definition it says that an 18 months wait is "immediate".

When you call somebody out for a comment, at least have the decency to know what you're talking about. Waiting 18 months (which is what Ornato and Engle did) to rebut something is certainly not "immediately".

Had Engle refuted the story that Ornato told Hutchinson [B]immediately, while Hutchinson was still in the room[/B], we wouldn't be having this argument. Did he refute the story "immediately"? Nope. Did he refute it 18 months later? Yes. Under oath? Nope.

But, according to you, 18 months is "immediate". FYI, it is not.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2726773]By the way, where are all the articles about people who died from Covid after Biden said you could not get it if vaccinated? Where are those hundreds of articles?[/QUOTE]Yeah.

Where are the articles filled with Elvis's "alternate" quotes of Biden that were never said?

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[QUOTE=PVMonger;2727110]Can you read for comprehension?

When the Mango Mussolini said to inject disinfectant, trump supporters immediately began making bleach martinis. Because they believed what he said. [B]words matter[/B].[/QUOTE]Among republicans there are lots and lots of suckers.

[QUOTE=PVMonger;2727110]They also believed the Orange Moron when he said that Mexico would pay for the wall. Nobody else did, of course, but trump supporters did.[/QUOTE]TrumpShit supporters are the BIGGEST SUCKERS of all time.

[QUOTE=PVMonger;2727110]They also believed Hair Furor when he said that he had proof of the election being stolen. Nobody else did, of course, but trump supporters did.[/QUOTE]TrumpShit voters are the EASIEST SUCKERS to fool ever again and again and again & AGAIN.

[QUOTE=PVMonger;2727110]They believed Cheeto Tweeto when he said that Chinese thermostats changed votes. Or was it Italian satellites? Nobody else did, of course, but trump supporters did.[/QUOTE]All you can do is laugh hard at these naive suckers.

Unfortunately, America is burdened by these suckers.

X, why do you keep insisting that I slap you down again and again? Have some self-respect, dude. You lost the debate when you could not or would not address the 2 secret service eyewitnesses not being called by Nancy to testify at her inquisition. Instead, you went off into the weeds rambling about the definition of hearsay and left-wing women's integrity as witnesses in partisan kangaroo witch hunts.

At least Poncho understood the critical relevance of not calling the 2 key eyewitnesses to testify at the hearings. His response was classic Antifa: he attacked the character and integrity of the 2 eyewitnesses. KKK. Yeah, it is an obnoxious, soviet era response, but personally if I had to choose between your mealy-mouthed obfuscations or Poncho's straight forward KGB style attack response, I would take his because it is more revealing of what the Marxist Woke political movement is all about.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2727182]Again with the bleach?

Let's test your theory if words matter.

You are not going to get Covid if you get these vaccinations. [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wST_Oo1osdA[/URL].

I have another one, "Putin cannot stay in power. " [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agEaCr6InEM[/URL].

"The American people think there is inflation because the government is spending more money, simply not true. " [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTPX1ejoYdg[/URL].

As for American troops in Ukraine, Biden said "You are going to see when you go there (to Ukraine)" [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RER3Q8JAFbE[/URL].

Nah, your theory does not hold up about words meaning things. What you mean to say is when Republicans say something, words matter. That does not apply to Democrats. Democrats can be inaccurate and lie all they want.

That depends on what your definition of is is should be the motto of the Democratic Party.[/QUOTE]No wonder I didn't recall Biden saying "If you get vaccinated you won't get Covid. " When you put it in context with everything else Biden said about the value of getting vaccinated you'd have to be pretty dumb to think that is all there is to it.

Even the guy in your link where that one sentence was truncated out of all context and cut away from almost before we even hear the last letter of the last word in the sentence gave the statement a "Half True" rating.

Here is the rest of it:

[URL]https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/biden-if-vaccinated-wont-get-covid/[/URL]

[QUOTE]Context
During the same public appearance, Biden also stated, accurately, that vaccinated people are less likely to catch the virus than unvaccinated people and, if they do catch it, are less likely to get sick.
....
BIDEN: Well, the virus look, its real simple. We have a pandemic for those who haven't gotten a vaccination. Its that basic, that simple. Ten thousand people have recently died; 9,950 of them, thereabouts, are people who hadn't been vaccinated.

This is a simple, basic proposition. If you're vaccinated, you're not going to be hospitalized, you're not going to be in an ICU unit, and you are not going to die.
.....

But, again, one last thing. We don't talk enough to you about this, I don't think. One last thing that's really important is, were not in the position where we think that any virus, including the Delta virus, which is much more transmissible and more deadly in terms of unvaccinated people, the the various shots that people are getting now cover that. You're OK. You're not going to you're not going to get COVID if you have these vaccinations.
.....
(Also, at the same appearance)
"If you're vaccinated, even if you do catch the virus, quote, unquote, like people talk about it in normal terms, you're not many people do. If you do, you're not likely to get sick. You're probably going to be symptomless. You're not going to be in a position where your life is in danger. [/QUOTE]BTW, all he was trying to do was encourage anti-science lemming Repubs who had believed any or all of the 40 or so times Trump lied to them that "it will go away without a vaccine" and were continuing to die for lack of taking the vaccines to stop being so stupid and take them.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2727209]Nor have I seen a clip of Biden saying it sourced from FUX News and the like.

Where do you imagine you saw and heard it?

There are tons of videos showing Trump repeatedly assuring the world that his Trump's Pandemic virus "will go away without a vaccine" as well as the one of him being deadly serious that the injection of disinfectant (bleach) to cure it ought to be looked into instead.

Have you got a link for Biden saying, "you can not get Covid if you are vaccinated"?[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/video-of-biden-saying-vaccinations-prevent-covid-resurfaces-after-infection/ar-AAZPJx3[/URL]

"You are not going to have Covid if you have these vaccinations. ".

Any of the non-Dems want to predict what these dumb Dems are going to say about this?

First off, they go on and on about the stupid bleach joke when this is way, way more serious.

It is funny how these fools did not even realize Biden said it. That shows how blind, dense, and ill-informed they really are.

Maybe they will accuse me of lying when I said "get" versus "have". Have is present tense, and Biden was talking about the virus that existed then.

Here is MSN"s spin:

However, after new variants of the novel virus emerged, efficacy against infections dipped, but vaccines have generally remained strong at preventing serious cases, hospitalization and death.

This is a nice try, but there were variants before the vaccine, and the hospitalization and death crap is proven to be untrue.

How about another dumb Dem tactic? Attacking the source?

MSN, they are a fucking joke man. They are even worse than Fox News. Tucker Carlson uses MSN as a source all the time. Gramps in Thailand already referenced Fox News. He he.

Here is another good one. Did I imagine it?

No, you and all the other dumb Dems imagined he didn't say it.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2727209]There are tons of videos showing Trump repeatedly assuring the world that his Trump's Pandemic virus "will go away without a vaccine" as well as the one of him being deadly serious that the injection of disinfectant (bleach) to cure it ought to be looked into instead.[/QUOTE]Can you even make this up? Doesn't that show you how slanted the media is and how the dumb Dems lap it up?

I am not going to pull any punches here. This is not a dumb Dem tactic but Democratic douchery at work.

[QUOTE=ScatManDoo;2727369]
Where are the articles filled with Elvis's "alternate" quotes of Biden that were never said?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2727209]Have you got a link for Biden saying, "you can not get Covid if you are vaccinated"?[/QUOTE]This is how Russiagate happens. The FBI talks to the media about Russiagate. Then they use the media story as the means to get a FiSA warrant. This is classic Democratic fact checking. Two Dems agree what the facts and both are too stupid to even use duckduckgo. (Google got rid of all the links to this video).

Thing about Trump is yes, I know, and most people I know who like Trump will admit that he is obnoxious, egocentric, boisterous, and often inappropriate but what they do not get is that Trump is and always will be authentic. Part of his game is to exaggerate to gain a better negotiating position, and it worked time and again. "The grab 'them by the pussy" quote comes out and Trump brings all the women Clinton really did grope to a presser. Brilliant.

That said, now that all the Dems have seen the truth, we can expect all the truth loving Dems here to admit their great leader made a mistake, apologize to me, and wonder how many deaths really were due to Biden saying that, and why there were not thousands of articles about it, right?

Nah, just kidding! I just hope the douches can be halfway creative this time.

[QUOTE=ScatManDoo;2727369]Yeah.

Where are the articles filled with Elvis's "alternate" quotes of Biden that were never said?[/QUOTE]Read: [B]Did Biden Say You Wont Get COVID if Youre Vaccinated?[/B] ([URL]https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/biden-if-vaccinated-wont-get-covid/[/URL]).

Watch: [URL]https://youtu.be/t7WwDLzG--Y[/URL].

I feel sorry that some of us here are either lacking in memory, or lacking skills to Google. Please feel free to reach out to me by PM if you need help in improving your skills on how to use search engines eg Google. Thank you!

[QUOTE=Elvis 2008;2727104] ... Thing is PVM, we do not know what the fuck she was doing. She could have been stuffing the ballot box for Trump right? But you dumb Dems do not care if there was an election fraud. All you care about is the result, and if that woman is deposed, there is a chance the result you desire comes into question. ... [/QUOTE]

Boy do I love that magical, thinking and how brain re-writes history, at will. That's a top notch talent you got there. Trump University, was it?

To answer your question, Dems do, ABSOLUTELY care about election fraud. In fact about 95% of election fraud was committed by the Repubs. As I've said before, Republi-cannots (win honestly at the ballot-box)/Con-servatives and are by far the very best at cheating.

"The 2020 Voter Fraud Has Been Found And It Was Committed By Republicans": [URL] https://www.politicususa.com/2021/10/25/the-2020-voter-fraud-has-been-found-and-it-was-committed-by-republicans.html [/URL]

[QUOTE=ScatManDoo;2727405]Among republicans there are lots and lots of suckers.

TrumpShit supporters are the BIGGEST SUCKERS of all time.

TrumpShit voters are the EASIEST SUCKERS to fool ever again and again and again & AGAIN.

All you can do is laugh hard at these naive suckers.

Unfortunately, America is burdened by these suckers.[/QUOTE]What was wrong or unacceptable with my poet.

That caused it to not poet the first times I submitted it?

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2727438]BTW, all he was trying to do was encourage anti-science lemming Repubs who had believed any or all of the 40 or so times Trump lied to them that "it will go away without a vaccine" and were continuing to die for lack of taking the vaccines to stop being so stupid and take them.[/QUOTE]So when you say if you get vaccinated, you won't get Covid, and you do get vaccinated x 4 and get Covid, that is science? Hey, Gramps, what is your definition of is? And the reason Biden gave out false information was because of Trump? Biden had to lie because of Trump. LOL.

"If you're vaccinated, you're not going to be hospitalized, you're not going to be in the ICU unit, and you're not going to die. ".

Is that true Gramps? Is that science? Was there anyone who thought they should not have to go to the hospital if they were sick with Covid and stayed home and died because Biden said they would NEVER have to go?

There are millions who got vaccinated. How many injected bleach?

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2727438]Even the guy in your link where that one sentence was truncated out of all context and cut away from almost before we even hear the last letter of the last word in the sentence gave the statement a "Half True" rating.[/QUOTE]Yeah, that is a shocker. Biden is caught completely bullshitting about the vaccine and the media calls it is a half truth.

Trump jokes about bleach, and there are hundreds of articles about the dozens of calls to poison control but not this. Nah, it was half true given the context. "What Biden meant to say", yeah, how many times have we heard that line?

I should have anticipated the context angle. Biden didn't say he was sending troops to Ukraine. That was just a context error.

Gramps, you know you are totally full of shit right?

The science is the vaccine worked okay for a few months and then it did nothing and at the time it was doing the most nothing is when Dems were bitching the loudest for people to get vaccinated. That is the truth and the science, and Biden was miles away from both.

Thing is you didn't even know Biden said what he did Gramps. Why is that?

Great little mash up on the lies around COVID and how easily the public bought in to the propaganda.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7ka2eUwwWc[/URL]

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Given the amount of ridiculous posts, should this Thread be renamed to American Comedies?

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2727476][URL]https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/video-of-biden-saying-vaccinations-prevent-covid-resurfaces-after-infection/ar-AAZPJx3[/URL]

"You are not going to have Covid if you have these vaccinations. ".

Any of the non-Dems want to predict what these dumb Dems are going to say about this?

First off, they go on and on about the stupid bleach joke when this is way, way more serious.

It is funny how these fools did not even realize Biden said it. That shows how blind, dense, and ill-informed they really are.

Maybe they will accuse me of lying when I said "get" versus "have". Have is present tense, and Biden was talking about the virus that existed then.

Here is MSN"s spin:

However, after new variants of the novel virus emerged, efficacy against infections dipped, but vaccines have generally remained strong at preventing serious cases, hospitalization and death.

This is a nice try, but there were variants before the vaccine, and the hospitalization and death crap is proven to be untrue.

How about another dumb Dem tactic? Attacking the source?

MSN, they are a fucking joke man. They are even worse than Fox News. Tucker Carlson uses MSN as a source all the time. Gramps in Thailand already referenced Fox News. He he.

Here is another good one. Did I imagine it?

No, you and all the other dumb Dems imagined he didn't say it.

Can you even make this up? Doesn't that show you how slanted the media is and how the dumb Dems lap it up?

I am not going to pull any punches here. This is not a dumb Dem tactic but Democratic douchery at work.



This is how Russiagate happens. The FBI talks to the media about Russiagate. Then they use the media story as the means to get a FiSA warrant. This is classic Democratic fact checking. Two Dems agree what the facts and both are too stupid to even use duckduckgo. (Google got rid of all the links to this video).

Thing about Trump is yes, I know, and most people I know who like Trump will admit that he is obnoxious, egocentric, boisterous, and often inappropriate but what they do not get is that Trump is and always will be authentic. Part of his game is to exaggerate to gain a better negotiating position, and it worked time and again. "The grab 'them by the pussy" quote comes out and Trump brings all the women Clinton really did grope to a presser. Brilliant.

That said, now that all the Dems have seen the truth, we can expect all the truth loving Dems here to admit their great leader made a mistake, apologize to me, and wonder how many deaths really were due to Biden saying that, and why there were not thousands of articles about it, right?

Nah, just kidding! I just hope the douches can be halfway creative this time.[/QUOTE]If you knew what vaccines were supposed to do, you wouldn't write this drivel.

I saw an ad on TV last night for "Shingrix", the shingles vaccine. Evidently "Shignrix" doesn't work at all because the ad (admittedly in Canadian TV, because they still can't lie) said that the vaccine is 90% effective. If you knew how vaccines work, you'd know that most vaccines are not 100% effective 100% of the time. The following article points that out and shows, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that [B]most vaccines are not 100% effective 100% of the time[/B]. [URL]https://www.immune.org.nz/vaccines/efficiency-effectiveness[/URL].

Look, we all get that you are an apologist for the Mango Mussolini. Note how you [B]still[/B] refer to the lie that his "inject disinfectant" comment was a joke. Even though everybody on the planet (with a brain) knows that the Orange Menace was serious when he said it.

But the important point here, and one that I've asked you to answer hundreds of times, is [B]who was President when the vaccines were developed[/B]? This is not a complicated answer. But answering it poses a serious problem for all tRUMP supporters. That's because if you say the vaccine is worthless or not very effective, then you are admitting that it was the Mango Mussolini who developed this "less than effective" vaccine. So, which is is? My gut tells me that you'll try to spin this somehow rather than admit that Donnie the Dumbass paid million of dollars for a vaccine that is "less than effective". But that's what you RethugliKKKants do.

FYI, if Hair Furor was "always authentic" then his comment about injecting bleach had to be authentic too, right?

I was vaxed twice (Moderna) before my 1st trip to Brazil in April 2021. The Delta variant was sweeping the country at that time and all the restaurants and bordellos in RJ & SP were shut down. The SP clinicas somehow remained open. I don't know how they managed it, but they did. In addition, RJ Barra Vip & and SP M Class girls were super friendly and helped fill the void. Anyway, I exchanged bodily fluids with many, many Brazilian girls on that trip and did not contract Covid.

I got a booster shot in September before my October / November 2021 2nd trip. The SP boates and RJ termas were back open for business. I exchanged bodily fluids with many, many Brazilian girls on that trip and did not contract Covid.

Then in March 2022 right before my 3rd trip, I got a 2nd booster shot. 4 Moderna shots in all. By this time the Omicron variant had made its introduction to the world. As I understand it, the Delta variant affects the lower respiratory and Omicron affects the upper respiratory. Delta is far more serious. Omicron is a faster spreader. Anyway, I exchanged bodily fluids with many girls like on my 2 previous trips, but this time I contracted a very mild case of Covid. My symptoms were a severe sore throat like I never experienced before, but nothing else. No coughing, no headaches, and I was not bedridden although my sexual appetite went to zero for a week or so. The sore throat lasted 3 days. I was never tested, but my girls all said, "you have Omicron" matter of fact like it was nothing when I told them of my symptoms.

OK, so about 2 weeks ago which is around 2 months after I recovered from Omicron or whatever I had, I went to dinner with my Dad in Florida. He had 3 Pfizer vax shots. The restaurant was crowded, and the tables were close together. 2 days later he contracted a lite case of Covid probably Omicron. I came over to his place for dinners and morning coffee. I did not wear a mask, so I was super exposed to whatever he had, but I contracted nada. My Dad recovered in 3 days. He is in his 90's, but in good shape.

So, what does my anecdotal story indicate? My take is that the Moderna vax's were pretty effective against the lower respiratory Delta variant, but more or less ineffective against the upper respiratory Omicron variant although they may have mitigated the severity of Omicron, but Omicron was already noted for not being as severe as Delta, so who the fuck knows.

Moderna and Pfizer are both coming out with new vaccines in September which are supposedly designed for the current Covid variants. The question is who wants to get vaccinated? Ha Ha. Not me. I believe that I am currently immune, but I don't know for how long. I have an open mind, however, so I want to hear scientific facts and data from the CDC on these new vaccines and I definitely do not want to hear any more political BS and bias. I am not going to take it on faith from anybody about the efficacy and safety of the newbies. Sadly the "experts" credibility is shot. Pun intended.

[QUOTE=ScatManDoo;2727533]What was wrong or unacceptable with my poet.

That caused it to not poet the first times I submitted it?[/QUOTE]My poetic guess, you were saying this guy is a better leader than the previous guy who actually did some good work, and you were saying offensive things about his supporters? Watch with sound ON please:

[URL]https://www.instagram.com/reel/CfxHwOYlmlf/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=[/URL]

[QUOTE=JustTK;2727542]Great little mash up on the lies around COVID and how easily the public bought in to the propaganda.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7ka2eUwwWc[/URL][/QUOTE]Nice find, JustTK. I really cannot see anyone defending this video. Maybe some fact check douche will say the lying pols were telling the half truth. But, but, but it was Trump who was spreading disinformation. Man, these douches cannot quit Trump.

And this is why I cannot stand Democratic douches. Their douchery was so bad during the pandemic that comedians, fucking comedians, were the only ones telling the truth about Covid. They interviewed real scientists like Dr. Malone and got his thoughts about it. The thing Jimmy Dore does not mention about Dr. Malone is that he was vaccinated and had long Covid. He is not some stupid, lame brained denier but he was painted that way by the goofs in the mainstream media.

The Democratic douches are not the party of science. They pay scientists to reflect their own opinions and call it science, and they pay and bash people to belittle real scientists like Dr. Malone. All those politicians should have a tag line under them saying, "Bought and paid for by Pfizer and Moderna".

Now Pfizer and Moderna have reformulated their vaccine for the latest omicron variant. Any double blind placebo controlled studies? Nah. They did that once and got the results they wanted.

You would think the media would be calling for Fauci's head and holding Biden and all the other lying Dems feet to the fire over lying about the vaccine, but it is crickets. "They had to lie after all the shit Trump said. " Hundreds of millions of Americans vaccinated for almost no reason and all that money spent and the douches are still aghast over Trump's bleach comment. How fucking stupid are they?

But as we have seen, these dumbshit douches still have their heads in the sand. This was the #1 article on CNBC, [URL]https://www.cnbc.com/2022/08/03/fauci-not-being-up-to-date-on-covid-vaccines-boosters-means-trouble.html[/URL].

If you aren't up-to-date on Covid vaccines and boosters, you're 'going to get into trouble'.

Are you fucking kidding me?

Honestly, JustTK, the number of Covid cases now is as bad now as it ever was. The hysteria is down, and the variant just is not as severe. Still, I am seeing an occasional person who is sick as shit. For what it is worth, I think the reason the mortality number early on was so high was because doctors fucked up and put people on ventilators who did not need to be.

There was this fat 85 year diabetic Covid + guy who came into the ER the other day. He was gasping for air, pulse was through the roof, oxygen level was low. Staff took care of him like anybody else. They had been around Covid so much it did not scare them a lick. No one on the planet would argue that a guy who looked like this should be on a ventilator right? But everyone had seen this before. He was given dexamethasone, some heparin, and put on Bipap. Sixty minutes later, he is feeling so much better, he falls asleep. I still have not seen anyone as sick as this die of Covid, and I have seen a lot of people like this.

But the real idiocy on "science" is with climate change and clean energy. [URL]https://freemansperspective.com/we-already-have-clean-energy/[/URL]#more-11499.

I was confronted with this fact quite some years ago, while working on an alternative energy project. Here are the pounds of particulate matter (aka, dirt), produced when generating a billion BTUs (British Thermal Units, a measurement of heat):

Coal 2,744.

Oil 84.

Natural Gas 7.

Nuclear 0.

And another post from Freeman's perspective.

The real purpose of the Green faith is for you to welcome lower standards of living.

For example, "sustainable agriculture," no matter how reverently it's name is intoned, actually means "lower crop yields and fewer animals per acre. ".

Sustainable agriculture is built around an insane posit: That bureaucrats, a thousand miles away and with zero experience, know how to use specific pieces of land better than farmers and ranchers who've been working them all their lives. It is, as an old saying goes, so ridiculous that only an intellectual could believe it.

We just saw what these pols did in the name of "science". They wrecked our economy, pumped us full of worthless experimental shit which did no good whatsoever, and now we have these same dumbshit Democratic douches who are ready for more. Well, yeah, but the scientists are saying that our dirty energy is cause the earth to die.

Hell, all these dumb shit douches need to be told is Trump is against green energy, and they will jump to being pro-green energy in a second. Hey, dummies, do you know that when the sun is not shining and the wind is not blowing, you do not generate energy?

Here is a lib who does an amazing job actually talking about the facts and science of nuclear power. [URL]https://environmentalprogress.org/complete-case-for-nuclear[/URL].

Maybe this time these douches will get a fucking clue what real science is.

Kansas women told the GOP this week to fuck-off and leave them alone.

Kansas priests contributed $4 million to ad campaigns encouraging voters to change the Kansas Constitution and outlaw abortions.

At the same time a handful of nuns spoke openly and clearly in KS in support of safe and legal abortions for women.

Democrat's learned there are two different and distinct authoritarians to run against and beat in the midterms.

[QUOTE=Gino02;2727739]My poetic guess, you were saying this guy is a better leader than the previous guy who actually did some good work, and you were saying offensive things about his supporters? Watch with sound ON please:

[URL]https://www.instagram.com/reel/CfxHwOYlmlf/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=[/URL][/QUOTE]What a sniveling snowflake you and the admin are.

Firsr submission. My typos changed post to poet.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2727539]So when you say if you get vaccinated, you won't get Covid, and you do get vaccinated x 4 and get Covid, that is science? Hey, Gramps, what is your definition of is? And the reason Biden gave out false information was because of Trump? Biden had to lie because of Trump. LOL.

"If you're vaccinated, you're not going to be hospitalized, you're not going to be in the ICU unit, and you're not going to die. ".

Is that true Gramps? Is that science? Was there anyone who thought they should not have to go to the hospital if they were sick with Covid and stayed home and died because Biden said they would NEVER have to go?

There are millions who got vaccinated. How many injected bleach?

Yeah, that is a shocker. Biden is caught completely bullshitting about the vaccine and the media calls it is a half truth.

Trump jokes about bleach, and there are hundreds of articles about the dozens of calls to poison control but not this. Nah, it was half true given the context. "What Biden meant to say", yeah, how many times have we heard that line?

I should have anticipated the context angle. Biden didn't say he was sending troops to Ukraine. That was just a context error.

Gramps, you know you are totally full of shit right?

The science is the vaccine worked okay for a few months and then it did nothing and at the time it was doing the most nothing is when Dems were bitching the loudest for people to get vaccinated. That is the truth and the science, and Biden was miles away from both.

Thing is you didn't even know Biden said what he did Gramps. Why is that?[/QUOTE]Look, Mental Midget, the reason almost nobody gave a shit about that one sentence is because he and his life-saving teams of experts who distributed and administered the vaccines Trump spent almost the entire critical year of 2020 insisting no one should bother inventing or taking because "we've got this under control, it's disappearing, it will go away without a vaccine" were constantly explaining how vaccines work to Mental Midgets like you; they prevent you from getting seriously ill WHEN you are exposed enough to the virus to test positive.

Biden even says it 2-3 different times at that same appearance.

But if you are prone to only choose one utterly irrelevant and harmless misstatement to go on and ignore everything else, let's examine the potential downside of doing that.

Zero downside.

Please explain the horrible outcome for some seriously hearing-impaired soul who only heard Biden say that one sentence and none of the others, got 2-3 vaccinations and then actually did get Covid but the symptoms were so mild thanks to his being vaccinated that he didn't even know he had it. Or the symptoms were no worse than getting a 3-day cold.

I suppose you think he ought to be hopping mad about that, right? Please explain why.

Now let's compare that to the dozens of times Trump said what I quoted above and millions of people were dumb enough to believe him. The downside to that is the actual death of almost everyone who died from it after they refused to get vaccinated despite Biden making them readily and freely available to every American.

That is a huge and meaningful difference.

[QUOTE=Gino02;2727513]Read: [B]Did Biden Say You Wont Get COVID if Youre Vaccinated?[/B] ([URL]https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/biden-if-vaccinated-wont-get-covid/[/URL]).

Watch: [URL]https://youtu.be/t7WwDLzG--Y[/URL].

I feel sorry that some of us here are either lacking in memory, or lacking skills to Google. Please feel free to reach out to me by PM if you need help in improving your skills on how to use search engines eg Google. Thank you![/QUOTE]Yeah, I understand some of the people who weirdly only heard that one sentence about not getting Covid if you take Biden's free, safe and easily available vaccines, still got Covid months later but, thanks to being vaccinated, had symptoms so mild, if any at all, most of them never even knew they had it are organizing a class-action law suit for having been so egregiously misled.

Dammit all, they never would have taken those free, safe and easily available vaccines and could have died from Covid fair and square if only Biden had kept his mouth shut and not misstated that one iddy biddy detail about it!

How dare Biden save their lives that way!

Before that they were happily sailing along under the Trump-assured delusion that "it is disappearing and will go away without a vaccine", well on their way to enjoying some serious debilitating symptoms, hospitalization, perhaps even death when they eventually became infected.

Then Biden had to come along and make that one sentence misstatement, the only sentence they heard, and ruin everything.

They might never forgive Biden for that.

[QUOTE=PVMonger;2727703]If you knew what vaccines were supposed to do, you wouldn't write this drivel.[/QUOTE]What does MY supposed lack of knowledge of vaccines have to do with anything?

[QUOTE=PVMonger;2727703]I saw an ad on TV last night for "Shingrix", the shingles vaccine. Evidently "Shignrix" doesn't work at all because the ad (admittedly in Canadian TV, because they still can't lie) said that the vaccine is 90% effective. If you knew how vaccines work, you'd know that most vaccines are not 100% effective 100% of the time.[/QUOTE]So this is a straw man and deflection. I never said the vaccine was 100% effective. It was wrongly advertised as being 95% effective and was not. Right now, it is 0% effective, not 90, not 100 but 0.

So now you are calling a 0% vaccine a vaccine. That is a laugh.

Hell, it is now standard Democratic douchery to change the meaning of words. The Covid vaccine was not a vaccine. It was more of an immune stimulator and so the meaning of the word vaccine was changed. Now you douches are changing the meaning of the word recession. Global warming is now climate change, the word is is up for debate, and science is not science.

PVM, what the fuck is wrong with you? Do you care about anything besides the Democratic party? This whole thing should tell you that they do not give a fuck about you. You put an experimental drug into your body and no one has any fucking clue what it does long term FOR NOTHING.

Yeah, Trump should not have said the bleach comment. You guys exaggerated the shit out of but it was wrong of him to do. Is it that fucking hard to admit when your leaders fuck up? Are you douches capable of admitting that?

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2727707]Anyway, I exchanged bodily fluids with many girls like on my 2 previous trips, but this time I contracted a very mild case of Covid. My symptoms were a severe sore throat like I never experienced before, but nothing else. No coughing, no headaches, and I was not bedridden although my sexual appetite went to zero for a week or so. The sore throat lasted 3 days. I was never tested, but my girls all said, "you have Omicron" matter of fact like it was nothing when I told them of my symptoms. [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2727707]Real nice guy, knows he has Covid but keeps himself in the mix spreading it to hookers and who knows else. But of course it's all about you, your discomforts and lack of sexual appetite. No other thought entered your mind.

Sadly the "experts" credibility is shot.[/QUOTE]You, talking about credibility?? Wink The vaccines offer protection against servere illness. This was proven in the highly disproportionate amount of the unvaccinated admitted to hospitals. The "experts" were right and your essay was pointless.

[QUOTE=Elvis 2008;2727106]I am not a Republican as much as I vote Republican. When Bush trashed the economy and was mongering for war all over the world and trashing the economy, I voted for Obama. ...

You think there is this huge gulf between Republicans and Democrats. ... [/QUOTE]Yeah! Definitely HUGE! This radical, far-right, QAnon "baby eating", "conspiracy at every turn", version of Republicans I don't recognize. IMHO, it started with the Reagan administration and has steadily gotten worse, culminating with the Agent Orange, as the least iteration of moral degradation and corruption.

[QUOTE=Elvis 2008;2727106] Outside of his bone headed energy policy (and Bush's was boneheaded as well but in a different way), I see little difference between Biden and GW Bush.

They both love war.The best presidents in my life time (Reagan, Clinton, Obama, and Trump) all kept the peace...[/QUOTE]

What a motley crew of presidents. You certainly can pick 'em.

• Reagan (The 2nd worst of the bunch you chose) - The Godfather of "neo-liberal" capitalism, the "war-on-drugs" and the [b]most puppeted[/b] President of all-time and ushered in age of corporate greed designed to disenfranchise middle and working class Americans.

• Clinton (The 3rd worst) - Dude, probably did more for the Republicans than any other Democrat President.

• Obama (The 4th worst) - Dude was a bit disappointing. More hard-line measures could have been taken to the banksters and fraudsters of the 2008 crash.

• Trump (No.1 and by far the worst) - Enough said w/r to the Orange Buffoon

Well, you have your reasons why you chose, who you chose. There is no wrong or right answer to voting and will also be a personal matter.

But the bear minimum I expect from a president/administration is to uphold some semblance of equality for ALL Americans w/r to peace, democracy and a just rule of law.

Hey, I struggle with the Dems, at times over the years, even coming close to "doing the right thing" and not succumb to "corporate greed machinery", but at least they strive more in the direction of equality and justice. [b](ie. MLK - [/b][i] "the arc of the moral universe is long, but it bends toward justice"[/i][b])[/b]. Republicans not so much! If at all?

[QUOTE=Spidy;2727842]Yeah! Definitely HUGE! This radical, far-right, QAnon "baby eating", "conspiracy at every turn", version of Republicans I don't recognize. IMHO, it started with the Reagan administration and has steadily gotten worse, culminating with the Agent Orange, as the least iteration of moral degradation and corruption.[/QUOTE]I don't agree with your rankings but the RethugliKKKans certainly have scammed the voters with the "trickle-down" bullshit. Trickle-down sounds good but nothing major has ever trickled-down. The better term is "voodoo economics" as shown here. [URL]https://zfacts.com/national-debt/[/URL].

But yes, "Some semblance of equality for all Americans w / are to peace, democracy and a just rule of law. " is a good yardstick. The Dems might not "come close" to attaining it but at least they try. The RethliKKKants don't try at all. They cry a lot, though, about how they're victims. But instead of trying to come up with policies that might make things better, what they do is come up with policies that take away things.

Ohhhh, boo-hoo, Donnie the Dumbass lost. Let's make it harder to vote.

Ohhhh, boo-hoo, Donnie the Dumbass said the election was stolen but he can't prove it. Let's lie about "election security" and make it harder to vote.

Ohhhh, boo-hoo, we don't want women to have a choice if they can't afford a child or if they were the victim of rape or incest or, god forbid, if carrying the baby to term will kill the mother. Let's just say that we are pro-life and take away not only a woman's right to choose but also let's make sure that program limits are in place to make sure the child suffers until it is 18.

Ohhhh, boo-hoo, we hate anybody who looks different from us or acts differently from us or who believes in a non-Christian religion. Let's make sure that we turn the US into a Christian-like Taliban.

The great RethugliKKKant battle cry "Ohhhh, boo-hoo, we are victims, I tell you, victims."

America is attracting garbage from across the world. All of them want your resources and women. Many from my country and neighbouring Islamic countries are in America Canada Europe are out there selling drugs and abusing western women while most western western guys are kuks getting off to interracial porn. There is no saving America or the west at this point.

[QUOTE=Spidy;2727842]Yeah! Definitely HUGE! This radical, far-right, QAnon "baby eating", "conspiracy at every turn", version of Republicans I don't recognize. IMHO, it started with the Reagan administration and has steadily gotten worse, culminating with the Agent Orange, as the least iteration of moral degradation and corruption.[/QUOTE]

[URL]https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/fbi-wray-hunter-biden/2022/08/04/id/1081788/[/URL]

The uncharacteristic Repub advantage on the Generic Ballot question regarding control of Congress has totally evaporated in the highly regarded FiveThirtyEight Polling Service version of it.

Tied / Dead Even today:

[URL]https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/generic-ballot/[/URL]

Even on the demonstrably Repub / winger-leaning RealClearPolitics site version of it, the Repub advantage today has sunk to a mere 0.3 percentage point:

[URL]https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/2022-generic-congressional-vote-7361.html[/URL]

And this is as the primaries are only now determining which QAnon Repub loon specifically will be running against a Dem who, unlike the Repub loon, prefers and will defend and protect democracy over authoritarian dictatorship along with being able to tout all of the remarkable, historic, positive achievements and accomplishments of the current presidential administration and Dem-controlled Congress in recovering us and the world from the disastrous across-the-board economic, domestic, national security and foreign policy results handed to them from the previous Repub administration and his fellow Repubs in Congress.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2727786]Yeah, I understand some of the people who weirdly only heard that one sentence about not getting Covid if you take Biden's free, safe and easily available vaccines, still got Covid months later but, thanks to being vaccinated, had symptoms so mild, if any at all, most of them never even knew they had it are organizing a class-action law suit for having been so egregiously misled.

Dammit all, they never would have taken those free, safe and easily available vaccines and could have died from Covid fair and square if only Biden had kept his mouth shut and not misstated that one iddy biddy detail about it!

How dare Biden save their lives that way!

Before that they were happily sailing along under the Trump-assured delusion that "it is disappearing and will go away without a vaccine", well on their way to enjoying some serious debilitating symptoms, hospitalization, perhaps even death when they eventually became infected.

Then Biden had to come along and make that one sentence misstatement, the only sentence they heard, and ruin everything.

They might never forgive Biden for that.[/QUOTE]As usual and as expected, you sidetracked what question my post was in response to. Very typical [blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue] keep changing the goal posts, same like changing definition of recession now. LOL.

[blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue]

[B]China fires missiles over Taiwan for first time as Beijing retaliates against Pelosi visit[/B]

[URL]https://www.cnn.com/2022/08/04/asia/china-taiwan-pelosi-japan-tensions-intl-hnk/index.html[/URL]

Libs provoked Russia to invade Ukraine, causing global issues. Now the same are provoking China to invade Taiwan! WTF?

[QUOTE=Gino02;2727924]As usual and as expected, you sidetracked what question my post was in response to. Very typical **** keep changing the goal posts, same like changing definition of recession now. LOL.[/QUOTE]The definition of a Recession has virtually always been when the National Bureau of Economic Research declares it so based on a host of factors.

And on that count, it is doubtful the NBER will declare as a "Recession" a period of time where the unemployment rate has remained well below 4%, jobs are being created at record levels, wages are increasing at decades long record highs, consumer spending has barely declined despite Trump's Pandemic Supply-Chain Destruction Inflation, mere 1.6% and 0.9% pull backs in GDP Growth were seen for a couple of quarters after posting positive GDP Growth numbers under Biden and the Dems that Trump and his Repubs could only wish for but never achieved and even with the stock market as measured by the Wall Street go-to S&P 500 Index closing barely into Bear Market territory for only a few days before (so far) climbing right back into a health-restoring Correction territory within a mere 14% or so of it's all time record high achieved under Biden several months ago.

Oh, and with some other folk's favorite go-to measure for the USA stock market, the DOW, not yet closing in Bear Market territory for even a single day.

Although I suppose it is possible if Trump and Moscow Mitch somehow managed to pack the NBER with their favorite QAnon Repub loons.

Now, for the concept of a "mini Recession", the kind that came and went during a brief and mild downturn or set back that didn't even raise the unemployment rate into double digits for a single month or produce so much as a few thousand job losses, if any at all, check out the 2-3 that occurred under Truman post WWII and especially that tiny one under Carter. Any two of Eisenhower's three Recessions combined was bigger than those.

By stark contrast, of course, for the concept of a "Great Recession / Depression" over the past 100 years or so, simply check out the disastrous policy and stewardship-driven downturns under Hoover, Reagan, Bush2 and Trump.

Honorable Mention must go to those THREE Happy Days Recessions Eisenhower produced and presided over and a nod in passing to the significant ones Nixon / Ford and Bush1 gave us as well.

None at all to report for that timeframe under JFK, LBJ, Clinton, Obama and, yep, Biden to date. Not even a "mini" one.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2727817]What does MY supposed lack of knowledge of vaccines have to do with anything?

So this is a straw man and deflection. I never said the vaccine was 100% effective. It was wrongly advertised as being 95% effective and was not. Right now, it is 0% effective, not 90, not 100 but 0.

So now you are calling a 0% vaccine a vaccine. That is a laugh.

Hell, it is now standard Democratic douchery to change the meaning of words. The Covid vaccine was not a vaccine. It was more of an immune stimulator and so the meaning of the word vaccine was changed. Now you douches are changing the meaning of the word recession. Global warming is now climate change, the word is is up for debate, and science is not science..[/QUOTE]Who was President when this "0% effective" vaccine was developed? The Mango Mussolini.

Who got duped by the companies that developed this "0% effective" vaccine? The Mango Mussolini?

Who didn't bother to insert any type of "effectiveness" clause in any of the vaccine contracts? The Mango Mussolini.

Who is the sole person to blame for the "0% effective" vaccine? The Mango Mussolini.

So, in terms of the only word you seem to understand, "douchery", who is the biggest "douche" on the planet? The Mango Mussolini. Who are the second biggest "douches"? His supporters and apologists.

An "immune stimulator"? Really? Because that is [B]exactly what a vaccine does[/B]. Vaccines are supposed to stimulate the body's immune system so that it can recognize an invasion by a specific bacteria or virus. Anybody who has been educated past the third grade knows this. [URL]https://vaccination-info.eu/en/vaccine-facts/how-vaccines-work[/URL] and [URL]https://immunizebc.ca/how-do-vaccines-work[/URL] and [URL]https://ec.europa.eu/info/live-work-travel-eu/coronavirus-response/safe-covid-19-vaccines-europeans/how-do-vaccines-work_en[/URL] and [URL]https://www.health.gov.au/health-topics/immunisation/about-immunisation[/URL] There many more examples. But to suggest that every single one of these agencies changed the definition of what a vaccine is and how it works is almost as ludicrous as "but the election was stolen". It is easy, however, to see why RethugliKKKants believe it, though. The more outlandish the conspiracy theory, the more you ID ten t's believe it.

And please stop lying about the "experimental" COVID vaccines. Both the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines have received full FDA approval. Stop believing everything FUX Snooze tells you. Nobody with a brain believes anything that FUX Snooze says. [URL]https://www.goodrx.com/conditions/covid-19/fda-covid-19-vaccine-approval-updates[/URL].

Few Nobel Memorial Prize-winning economists (in Economic Sciences) or any others have been as right as often about the economy, the consistent Repub economic failures and lies and Mainstream Media's tireless efforts to "Bothside" every important issue into a false but perceived advantage and win for the Repubs as Paul Krugman.

His assessment of Biden and the Dems' next historic positive accomplishment in less than two years of Biden's astonishingly successful presidency is no exception to that pattern.

Well worth a read for some of the pro America elements cited in the Inflation Reduction Act that patriotic Americans will love for decades to come, Repubs will hate forever and MSM will happily struggle to turn into a very close horse race and, it hopes, potential election win for Repubs who have never, could never and would never come up with anything providing even 1% of the value this Biden / Dem legislation provides for America and Americans:

[B]Republicans Flail and Fail on Taxes
August 4, 2022[/B]

[URL]https://dnyuz.com/2022/08/04/republicans-flail-and-fail-on-taxes/[/URL]

[QUOTE]Kyrsten Sinema willing, Democrats appear to be on the verge of passing the Inflation Reduction Act a bill that probably would, indeed, reduce inflation but is mainly a desperately needed effort to limit climate change. Republicans are, of course, attacking the legislation.

But when I look at the substance of those attacks, such as it is, I cant help feeling more cheerful than I have in months.

For one thing, the debate over the proposal feels like a return to a more innocent time, when Republicans tried to make their case with dishonest claims about economic policy not insane conspiracy theories and attempts to overthrow democracy.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2727742] during the pandemic that comedians, fucking comedians, were the only ones telling the truth about Covid. They interviewed real scientists like Dr. Malone and got his thoughts about it. The thing Jimmy Dore does not mention about Dr. Malone is that he was vaccinated and had long Covid. He is not some stupid, lame brained denier but he was painted that way by the goofs in the mainstream media.
[/QUOTE]Its got a lot worse. I fear that COVID has just brought the issue in to sharper focus. The public has lost all trust in the establishment. We all know Trump was a liar, but it is clearer than ever before that they are all liars. The issue I am most concerned about is the silencing, the smearing, the deplatforming, of people that speak truth to power. We saw it throughout the pandemic. Big Pharma (the biggest liars of all) pulled the strings, the corrupt government politicans danced to their tune, and the final member of the Unholy Trinity, the IT giants made sure that discenting voices were removed and never heard. Many people sacrificed their careers for simply speaking the truth. It's totally disgusting.

And we see the same tactic used over and over again. Now we see it repeated over Russia and Ukraine. Jounralists are being deplatformed, demonittarised, hidden in search rankings, even jailed and tortured, for daring to speak the truth. And the fools that buy in to this are so brainwashed that they STILL think they are on the right side. Of science, debate, morality, truth. They think they live in a free and open democracy. Yeah right, free to be thrown in jail for telling the truth, free to find a job if you are willing to repeat our lies without thinking. Take a look around you folks. Don't look at foreign lands for examples of corrupt authoritarian states.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2727817]What does MY supposed lack of knowledge of vaccines have to do with anything?

So this is a straw man and deflection. I never said the vaccine was 100% effective. It was wrongly advertised as being 95% effective and was not. Right now, it is 0% effective, not 90, not 100 but 0.

So now you are calling a 0% vaccine a vaccine. That is a laugh.

Hell, it is now standard Democratic douchery to change the meaning of words. The Covid vaccine was not a vaccine. It was more of an immune stimulator and so the meaning of the word vaccine was changed. Now you douches are changing the meaning of the word recession. Global warming is now climate change, the word is is up for debate, and science is not science.[/QUOTE]Of course not. They won't even admit that Biden is losing his mind. They are so brainwashed by 20 years of the leftist education-industrial complex plus fake media that they would say the sky is red if they were instructed to. It is quite an accomplishment on the part of the left that they have been able to get about a quarter of the population to unquestioningly believe open falsehoods (men are women, the border is secure, Biden got 81 million votes and is mentally competent, the Russia hoax, cops are genociding innocent blacks on the way home from violin practice, etc, you know the drill).

As to the vax, they are quietly admitting to some of the many injuries and deaths it has caused. Very good, but sad, special with some of the victims and families by the great Mark Steyn [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0YhwBJRreU&t=1s[/URL].

Germany is starting to quietly admit to some of the huge number of vax deaths and injuries: [URL]https://rairfoundation.com/germanys-largest-health-insurer-reveals-1-in-25-clients-underwent-medical-treatment-in-2021-for-covid-vaccine-side-effects/[/URL].

[URL]https://rairfoundation.com/germany-admits-covid-vaccine-40-times-deadlier-than-previously-known/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.riotimesonline.com/brazil-news/modern-day-censorship/21-times-more-deaths-after-covid-vaccination-in-germany-than-with-all-other-vaccines-combined-in-the-last-20-years/[/URL]

Of particular interest is the fact that excess deaths were higher in 2021 than in 2020. Stop and think about that. In 2020, the so-called "deadly virus" rampaged freely with no vaccine. The "vaccine" was released late 2020 and was pushed so hard that a majority of people took it. So excess deaths should have fallen back toward the normal 2019 levels. But in fact, they increased. There were more excess deaths in 2021 with the vaccine than in 2020 without it.

[QUOTE=JustTK;2728117]And we see the same tactic used over and over again. Now we see it repeated over Russia and Ukraine. Jounralists are being deplatformed, demonittarised, hidden in search rankings, even jailed and tortured, for daring to speak the truth. And the fools that buy in to this are so brainwashed that they STILL think they are on the right side. Of science, debate, morality, truth. They think they live in a free and open democracy. Yeah right, free to be thrown in jail for telling the truth, free to find a job if you are willing to repeat our lies without thinking. Take a look around you folks. Don't look at foreign lands for examples of corrupt authoritarian states.[/QUOTE]Britain and Germany have both recently "sanctioned" their own citizens (Graham Phillips and Alina Lipp) who are reporting from Ukraine. That means that the govt seized their assets while they were abroad, because they said things that the govt did not like. No arrest, no trial, no due process; just had their lives ruined for going against The Agenda.

Anyone who thinks that today's West are "the good guys" is an unredeemable moron.

On a similar note, Zelensky is having frothing meltdown because Amnesty International reported his use of human shields. [URL]https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2022/08/ukraine-ukrainian-fighting-tactics-endanger-civilians/[/URL] Nothing about the torture and murder of Russian PoWs caught on camera, but it's a start.

"Oy veh, don't we control the media? How dare the goyim talk back! To the gulag with them for hate speech!

America First is running the board across the GOP primaries. Despite huge amounts of democrat leftist jewish money, fake media, social media manipulation, democrat voters organizing to vote for RINOs, and probably mail-in fraud, the American people have stepped up and pushed back against the attempts to destroy us, and cleansed the party of RINOs, traitors.

The big one is still to come: August 16, Wyoming. The J-left have put everything into propping up the vile RINO traitor Liz Cheney, daughter of the man who killed tens of thousands of Americans and cost us trillions of dollars by pushing for the illegal, foolish and fraudulent zionist war in Iraq.

Big money, big media, Google and social media support, democrats organizing to vote for her: they have thrown everything they have behind her. The only thing they don't have is we the American people. Will it be enough? This is a huge test for us as a nation: pray that we will pass it.

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2727892][URL]https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/fbi-wray-hunter-biden/2022/08/04/id/1081788/[/URL][/QUOTE]Despiration of the confused and defeated.

Meanwhile, Bothsiders and Mainstream Media will insist this (non) Recession and Dem economic "failure" is really no different than, oh, the Great Repub Depression of the late 1920's / early 1930's, the three Repub Recessions under Eisenhower, the next Great Repub Recession under Reagan, then Bush2, then Donald Trump, where millions upon millions of jobs were wiped out and / or the unemployment rate skyrocketed into double digits and / or the stock market Crashed into a Mega Bear decline, don't you know.

My goodness, how does an economy suffering Trump's Pandemic Supply-Chain Destruction Inflation remain so strong and positive it keeps creating these record high numbers of jobs while also paying down the Repub-ballooned deficit? Ask any Dem POTUS or member of Congress.

[B]Dow falls 150 points after strong July jobs report points to more aggressive Fed[/B]

[URL]https://www.cnbc.com/2022/08/04/stock-market-news-futures-open-to-close.html?__source=androidappshare[/URL]

[QUOTE]The labor market added 528,000 jobs in July, easily beating a Dow Jones estimate of a 258,000 increase. The unemployment rate ticked down to 3.5%, below the 3.6% estimate. Wage growth also ticked up more than estimated, up 0.5% for the month and 5.2% higher than a year ago, signaling that high inflation is likely still a problem.

Anybody that jumped on the Fed is going to pivot next year and start cutting rates is going to have to get off at the next station, because thats not in the cards, said Art Hogan, chief market strategist at B. Riley Financial. It is clearly a situation where the economy is not screeching or heading into a recession here and now..[/QUOTE]Thanks, Joe, Nancy, Chuck, the Dems and everyone who voted for them.

Their historic Inflation Reduction Act to tackle Trump's Inflation and so many other great improvements in the lives of virtually all Americans (Build Back Better, Redux) could not come at a better time. Masterfully done.

[QUOTE=JustTK;2728117]Its got a lot worse. I fear that COVID has just brought the issue in to sharper focus. The public has lost all trust in the establishment. We all know Trump was a liar, but it is clearer than ever before that they are all liars. The issue I am most concerned about is the silencing, the smearing, the deplatforming, of people that speak truth to power. We saw it throughout the pandemic. Big Pharma (the biggest liars of all) pulled the strings, the corrupt government politicans danced to their tune, and the final member of the Unholy Trinity, the IT giants made sure that discenting voices were removed and never heard. Many people sacrificed their careers for simply speaking the truth. It's totally disgusting.

And we see the same tactic used over and over again. Now we see it repeated over Russia and Ukraine. Jounralists are being deplatformed, demonittarised, hidden in search rankings, even jailed and tortured, for daring to speak the truth. And the fools that buy in to this are so brainwashed that they STILL think they are on the right side. Of science, debate, morality, truth. They think they live in a free and open democracy. Yeah right, free to be thrown in jail for telling the truth, free to find a job if you are willing to repeat our lies without thinking. Take a look around you folks. Don't look at foreign lands for examples of corrupt authoritarian states.[/QUOTE]Exactly. Kind of interesting there is major spike in Covid in the states, Hell Bidden and Fauci have it. Everybody I know had it or has Covid again, but nobody says anything. Media says nothing because it does not fit there narrative.

Same with the war, the media barely talks about it, most of the time the war is not even mentioned.

I am not sure who is worse the media or the politicians. I just work hard in the states and spend my money in Mexico.

[QUOTE=Gino02;2727951][B]China fires missiles over Taiwan for first time as Beijing retaliates against Pelosi visit[/B]

[URL]https://www.cnn.com/2022/08/04/asia/china-taiwan-pelosi-japan-tensions-intl-hnk/index.html[/URL]

Libs provoked Russia to invade Ukraine, causing global issues. Now the same are provoking China to invade Taiwan! WTF?[/QUOTE]WTF?

America's adversaries and enemies apparently don't get every anti-American thing they want at America's expense from current Dem leadership without acting out like they were delighted to be handed to them easy peasy from the prior Repub "leadership. ".

I mean, that is apparently WTF.

Doesn't it look that way to you too?

[QUOTE=DramaFree11;2728131]Exactly. Kind of interesting there is major spike in Covid in the states, Hell Bidden and Fauci have it. Everybody I know had it or has Covid again, but nobody says anything. Media says nothing because it does not fit there narrative.

Same with the war, the media barely talks about it, most of the time the war is not even mentioned.

I am not sure who is worse the media or the politicians. I just work hard in the states and spend my money in Mexico.[/QUOTE]Wait. RepubliKKKans spent over a year spewing nonsense about how COVID was a hoax and we "all just needed to get on with life" to the extent that the LT. Gov. Of Texas said old people should be willing to sue if COVID. And now the media "isn't talking enough about COVID? Just want to make sure that's what you're saying because it sounds more like desperate nonsense.

And are you talking about the Russian-Ukraine war where conservatives are supporting an aggressor invading another country? Plenty of articles continue to be written, but you probably don't read them as they're not carried in Newsmax or OAN (if you can find that station anymore after the cable companies cut them off).

Biden has done more in 18 months that Trump and GW did in 12 years. We're out of Afghanistan, we just killed Al-Queda's #2, manufacturing jobs are being created, unemployment is at its lowest point in 60 years, and even the leftover supply chain problems left by Trump have been lessened. We have an infrastructure bill that passed (remember infrastructure week (s) during Trump), and a bill that should pass which will cure some of the problems with Trump's tax scam. Aside from unrealistic expectations that Biden was going to expand the Supreme Court or forgive all student debt, he's done a magnificent job in 18 months with a 50/50 senate.

And if you look at the polls, instead of losing Senate and House seats, Democrats are looking to gain 2-3 Senate seats (PA, OH, IA) and hold the House.

So yes. Sorry the media is not talking about the horrible job Biden is doing.

[QUOTE=ChrisP;2728122]
[b]Wonderful primary results[/b]

America First is running the board across the GOP primaries. Despite huge amounts of democrat leftist jewish money, fake media, social media manipulation, democrat voters organizing to vote for RINOs, and probably mail-in fraud, the American people have stepped up and pushed back against the attempts to destroy us, and cleansed the party of RINOs, traitors.

The big one is still to come: August 16, Wyoming. The J-left have put everything into propping up the vile RINO traitor Liz Cheney, daughter of the man who killed tens of thousands of Americans and cost us trillions of dollars by pushing for the illegal, foolish and fraudulent zionist war in Iraq.

Big money, big media, Google and social media support, democrats organizing to vote for her: they have thrown everything they have behind her. The only thing they don't have is we the American people. Will it be enough? This is a huge test for us as a nation: pray that we will pass it.[/QUOTE]Uh. Yeah. I think if I were the Dem nominee in those districts and states, I would be pleased with those particular Repub primary results, too.

You do know that some of the Trump-endorsed QAnon Repub loons you're crowing about got hefty political campaign donations from the Dems in order to help them win their primaries, right?

[B]Democrats spend millions on Republican primaries[/B]

[URL]https://www.opensecrets.org/news/2022/07/democrats-spend-millions-on-republican-primaries/[/URL]

[QUOTE]Political groups and nonprofits aligned with the Democratic Party have spent nearly $44 million on advertising campaigns across five states Republican primaries to boost the profile of far-right candidates in California, Colorado, Pennsylvania, Illinois and Maryland.

Democrats strategy is rooted in the belief that these candidates many of whom spread unfounded claims that the 2020 presidential race was stolen from former President Donald Trump will be easier to defeat in a general election. [/QUOTE]It is quite likely that campaign ad money from Dems raising the profiles of your beloved QAnon loons has been a major contributing factor in the off-the-cliff drop in the Repub advantage in the Generic Ballot poll question over the past few weeks.

[QUOTE=ChrisP;2728122]America First is running the board across the GOP primaries. Despite huge amounts of democrat leftist jewish money, fake media, social media manipulation, democrat voters organizing to vote for RINOs, and probably mail-in fraud, the American people have stepped up and pushed back against the attempts to destroy us, and cleansed the party of RINOs, traitors.

The big one is still to come: August 16, Wyoming. The J-left have put everything into propping up the vile RINO traitor Liz Cheney, daughter of the man who killed tens of thousands of Americans and cost us trillions of dollars by pushing for the illegal, foolish and fraudulent zionist war in Iraq.

Big money, big media, Google and social media support, democrats organizing to vote for her: they have thrown everything they have behind her. The only thing they don't have is we the American people. Will it be enough? This is a huge test for us as a nation: pray that we will pass it.[/QUOTE]The Jewish-Left that Chris Pee makes reference to in his post:

Will give a big thanks to Liz Cheney (for flushing Shit down the toilet) as she moves from the House into her Wyoming presidential planning bunker.

But they would never give that right-wingnut millions of dollars to fight a losing battle to reverse Republican Retardation that's currently spreading throughout Wyoming.

Liz and Daddy Dick are getting their funding from Wyoming locals who have been working with DDD (Devil Daddy Dick) respectfully for decades.

Another classic republican dumb vs dumber internal battle. Dems lub it.

[QUOTE=ChrisP;2728119]Britain and Germany have both recently "sanctioned" their own citizens (Graham Phillips and Alina Lipp) who are reporting from Ukraine. That means that the govt seized their assets while they were abroad, because they said things that the govt did not like. No arrest, no trial, no due process; just had their lives ruined for going against The Agenda.

Anyone who thinks that today's West are "the good guys"[blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue]

On a similar note, Zelensky is having frothing meltdown because Amnesty International reported his use of human shields. [URL]https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2022/08/ukraine-ukrainian-fighting-tactics-endanger-civilians/[/URL] Nothing about the torture and murder of Russian PoWs caught on camera, but it's a start.

"Oy veh, don't we control the media? How dare the goyim talk back! To the gulag with them for hate speech![/QUOTE]Once again, you "cherry pick" things. Phillips was working for [B]Russian media[/B] and he was accused of war crimes after saying that a British fighter captured in Ukraine was a mercenary and not a POW. Here's the real story [URL]https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-nottinghamshire-62308528[/URL].

Keep on breathing your own exhaust.

[QUOTE=ChrisP;2728122]America First is running the board across the GOP primaries. Despite huge amounts of democrat leftist jewish money, fake media, social media manipulation, democrat voters organizing to vote for RINOs, and probably mail-in fraud, the American people have stepped up and pushed back against the attempts to destroy us, and cleansed the party of RINOs, traitors.

The big one is still to come: August 16, Wyoming. The J-left have put everything into propping up the vile RINO traitor Liz Cheney, daughter of the man who killed tens of thousands of Americans and cost us trillions of dollars by pushing for the illegal, foolish and fraudulent zionist war in Iraq.

Big money, big media, Google and social media support, democrats organizing to vote for her: they have thrown everything they have behind her. The only thing they don't have is we the American people. Will it be enough? This is a huge test for us as a nation: pray that we will pass it.[/QUOTE]The only way to save America is to vote out all RethugliKKKants and to jail their supporters. They are all traitors.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2728130]Meanwhile, Bothsiders and Mainstream Media will insist this (non) Recession and Dem economic "failure" is really no different than, oh, the Great Repub Depression of the late 1920's / early 1930's, the three Repub Recessions under Eisenhower, the next Great Repub Recession under Reagan, then Bush2, then Donald Trump, where millions upon millions of jobs were wiped out and / or the unemployment rate skyrocketed into double digits and / or the stock market Crashed into a Mega Bear decline, don't you know.

My goodness, how does an economy suffering Trump's Pandemic Supply-Chain Destruction Inflation remain so strong and positive it keeps creating these record high numbers of jobs while also paying down the Repub-ballooned deficit? Ask any Dem POTUS or member of Congress.

[B]Dow falls 150 points after strong July jobs report points to more aggressive Fed[/B]

[URL]https://www.cnbc.com/2022/08/04/stock-market-news-futures-open-to-close.html?__source=androidappshare[/URL]

Thanks, Joe, Nancy, Chuck, the Dems and everyone who voted for them.

Their historic Inflation Reduction Act to tackle Trump's Inflation and so many other great improvements in the lives of virtually all Americans (Build Back Better, Redux) could not come at a better time. Masterfully done.[/QUOTE]LOL let's see how it turns out. Pelosi already started provoking China to invade Taiwan. And this:

[B]Democrats saved Biden's agenda, but Sinema had her price: keeping a tax loophole for wealthy investors even Trump wanted gone[/B]

[URL]https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/democrats-saved-biden-s-agenda-but-sinema-had-her-price-keeping-a-tax-loophole-for-wealthy-investors-even-trump-wanted-gone/ar-AA10lUMV[/URL]

[QUOTE=DramaFree11;2728131]
I am not sure who is worse the media or the politicians. I just work hard in the states and spend my money in Mexico.[/QUOTE]The problem is they are one and the same. There is a revolving door between the democrat party (and occasional RINO), the Washington agencies, and the fake news.

For example Jen Psaki was in the Barack Hussein administration, then switched to fake news CNN, then back as Biden's chief spokesliar, and now to fake news MSNBC. John Brennan the "former" communist was Barack Hussein's CIA Director before going on to spew falsehoods for MSNBC. Further back there was Clinton apparatchik George Stephanopoulos, one of the few Clinton associates still alive today, who moved seamlessly into the fake news. The list goes on and on.

Collectively, this democrat / RINO / media / Washington agency merry-go-round is known as The Swamp. It must be drained, and the vile, poisonous creatures lurking within put to the sword, if we are to retake our country.

Right-wing [b]media thug[/B], brother Jones, owes a $4 Million bag for his Sandy Hook lies. With more to come in punitive damages.

More evidence of [B]lies and words having consequences...[/B]$4 million and counting, in this instance.

[URL]https://www.foxnews.com/us/alex-jones-trial-infowars-founder-must-pay-sandy-hook-victim-jesse-lewis-family-4-million [/URL]

[URL] https://edition.cnn.com/2022/08/04/media/alex-jones-trial-sandy-hook-decision/index.html [/URL]

[QUOTE=Spidy;2728259]Right-wing [b]media thug[/B], brother Jones, owes a $4 Million bag for his Sandy Hook lies. With more to come in punitive damages.

More evidence of [B]lies and words having consequences...[/B]$4 million and counting, in this instance.

[URL]https://www.foxnews.com/us/alex-jones-trial-infowars-founder-must-pay-sandy-hook-victim-jesse-lewis-family-4-million [/URL]

[URL] https://edition.cnn.com/2022/08/04/media/alex-jones-trial-sandy-hook-decision/index.html [/URL][/QUOTE]Why do the many leftist activist-"journalists" and politicians not owe millions to Donald Trump for their Russia hoax lies?

Rather like asking why people who walked through the Capitol have been being tortured in solitary for a year and a half, while violent rioters who burned and looted cities got bail then had charges dropped.

Selective, biased law enforcement and judiciary is a sure sign of a banana republic which will not last.

[QUOTE=Paulie97;2727822]You, talking about credibility?? Wink The vaccines offer protection against servere illness. This was proven in the highly disproportionate amount of the unvaccinated admitted to hospitals. The "experts" were right and your essay was pointless.[/QUOTE]I never said the vaccines did not mitigate severe cases of the virus. If you had read my post with an open mind you might have noticed this paragraph: "So, what does my anecdotal story indicate? My take is that the Moderna vax's were pretty effective against the lower respiratory Delta variant, but more or less ineffective against the upper respiratory Omicron variant although they may have mitigated the severity of Omicron, but Omicron was already noted for not being as severe as Delta, so who the fuck knows."

So once again you demonstrated your intolerance towards any opinion other than your own, but this time you went far beyond that by lying about what I posted and what I did in SP. Here is a direct quote from your post.

[QUOTE=Paulie97;2727822] Originally Posted by AxelHeyst : Real nice guy, knows he has Covid but keeps himself in the mix spreading it to hookers and who knows else. But of course it's all about you, your discomforts and lack of sexual appetite. No other thought entered your mind. [/QUOTE]The problem is that I did not post anything even close to this lie, so your attempt to assassinate my character is based on your own made-up false statement about my behavior in Brazil which is over the top despicable and a new low even for the likes of you. It just shows the kind of hatred that flows through your mind and indicates what you might do in a similar circumstance not what I did.

The truth is I self-isolated in SP when I became ill. So, where the fuck do you get off saying I did anything else? What I posted was that I had no sexual appetite for a week or so which was true. It was a discernable feature of the illness along with a severe sore throat which I had for the first 3 days and then it went away. This was one of the main points of my report which was to accurately describe how it felt to have Omicron after 4 Moderna shots.

Here is my exact quote:

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2727707] My symptoms were a severe sore throat like I never experienced before, but nothing else. No coughing, no headaches, and I was not bedridden although my sexual appetite went to zero for a week or so. The sore throat lasted 3 days. I was never tested, but my girls all said, "you have Omicron" matter of fact like it was nothing when I told them of my symptoms. [/QUOTE]I did not go into more details or post a trip report of my time with Omicron because my time was spent alone, and it was BORING. I binged watched 12 seasons of "Trailer Park Boys" on Netflix, I hung out alone at my hotel's swimming pool, I went to the park and hung out alone, I picked up takeout food from a local restaurant alone. I always wore my mask in public and I kept the maids out of my room for 10 friggin' days.

I video texted on What'sApp with my favorite girls all the time. "S" my favorite SP girl wanted to come over right away and I had to insist that she not come. It was our thing to set aside Sunday night for "date night" at my hotel, so when Sunday came around and it was only the 6th day since that strange sore throat first hit me, even though I felt fine and she really wanted to come over I would not let her come over. She is a great gal.

I also had another prearranged date with Rafa scheduled for the next night (night 7). Rafa is model quality girl I met at Scandallo and a real looker. She was ready to come over and said she was not worried about Omicron since she said she had it twice before. Nevertheless, I told her not come because she was leaving on her European trip Wednesday, and it was not worth taking the risk. It was very hard telling Rafa not to come over because I knew I would not see her again until October.

Finally, another Sunday night rolled around (13 days after my sore throat) and "S" came over. It was a grand reunion. We drank a bottle of wine, smoked some reefer, had room service dinner, watched Trailer Park Boys" and boom boomed 3 times. She stayed until 3:30 am. She suffered no subsequent health issues. After that wonderful night I knew I was totally free of Omicron, so I hooked up with Licia, another favorite girl of mine that I had placed on hold due to the Omicron thing. She was also well aware of my Omicron situation. She came over and we had a blast. Licia also had no subsequent health issues after our night together. Proof that I was no longer carrying the virus.

Now if you were a monger and had any experience traveling in the post covid era and not such a complete gutter snipe, you would not have made up your intolerable accusation. But since you obviously have no mongering experience in the covid era and therefore you have no idea what it is like to catch covid a foreign country or know any girls you really like and who really like you, I suggest that you just shut your stupid mouth in front of your betters. If you were not such a prick, I might even feel sorry for you. My advice to you is get out, travel, meet some nice girls and get yourself laid.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2728130]Meanwhile, Bothsiders and Mainstream Media will insist this (non) Recession and Dem economic "failure" is really no different than, oh, the Great Repub Depression of the late 1920's / early 1930's, the three Repub Recessions under Eisenhower[/QUOTE][blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue]. The 50's was a golden age for the working man, in spite of three mild recessions, much of which was inherited from Truman and related to the end of the Korean War. You've already acknowledged that recessions typically follow the ending of wars but only Democrats get that benefit in your sloppy, slanted analysis. This was the era of great infrastructure projects, the expansion of social security, increases in the minimum wage, and the creation of HEW which became the department of Health and Human Services. Many bought their first television sets and could afford second cars. Domestic vacations to picturesque places accessed over the highways driving some of the most beautiful cars ever made were routine for the average person. It was a golden age for cinema and music. Inflation and unemployment were low. The list goes on. Of course after all the bluster you can't back down now and save face, but here's an interesting article from the Miller Center, University of VA for the audience, beginning with an excerpt.

"Although mild recessions slowed growth in 1953-1954,1957-1958, and again in 1960, the economy expanded robustly during most of the 1950's. Unemployment was generally low, and inflation usually was 2 percent or less. Indeed, Eisenhower's record of strong growth and low inflation was better than that of any other post-World War II President. Although Old Guard conservatives pressed Eisenhower to cut taxes, the President gave a higher priority to balancing the budget. Eisenhower had moderate success—three of his eight budgets were in the black. Wage earners enjoyed a prosperous decade: During the Eisenhower presidency, personal income increased by 45 percent. Many families used their purchasing power to buy new houses, frequently in suburban developments. Consumers also used their income to acquire many new household items, including television sets and high-fidelity equipment. A few families even made their purchases by using the first charge cards from Diners Club and American Express. ".

[URL]https://millercenter.org/president/eisenhower/domestic-affairs[/URL]

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2728197]Uh. Yeah. I think if I were the Dem nominee in those districts and states, I would be pleased with those particular Repub primary results, too.

You do know that some of the Trump-endorsed QAnon Repub loons you're crowing about got hefty political campaign donations from the Dems in order to help them win their primaries, right?

[B]Democrats spend millions on Republican primaries[/B]

[URL]https://www.opensecrets.org/news/2022/07/democrats-spend-millions-on-republican-primaries/[/URL]

It is quite likely that campaign ad money from Dems raising the profiles of your beloved QAnon loons has been a major contributing factor in the off-the-cliff drop in the Repub advantage in the Generic Ballot poll question over the past few weeks.[/QUOTE]Usually we can count on republicans to be badly suckered by their own kind (looking for quick bucks).

It is especially fun & hilarious to watch the DNC sucker them bad (into nominating a bunch of sure losers). HaHaHa.

Suckers are easily played and defeated. HaHaHa.

Even the ultra Repub / winger-leaning Rasmussen Poll has the previous uncharacteristic Repub advantage in their Generic Congressional Control question plunging from double digits to a mere 3%, well within a normal +/-MoE.

Which helped to bring the demonstrably Repub / winger-leaning RealClearPolitics' Poll of Polls on the question to an insignificant 0. 1% Repub advantage on the question today:

[URL]https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/2022-generic-congressional-vote-7361.html[/URL]

Oh, and the more reliable and highly regarded FiveThirtyEight polling service now shows Dems leading Repubs on the question:

[URL]https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/generic-ballot/[/URL]

Those polls were taken before Biden / Dems' latest remarkable historic economic achievements re Jobs Creation and their pending terrific Inflation Reduction Act legislation (BBB Redux), the provisions in which the majority of Americans have wanted done for decades, was announced. So, "watch this space". LOL.

But they were taken after national gas prices continued to decline over the past 50+ days.

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[QUOTE=PVMonger;2728220]The only way to save America is to vote out all RethugliKKKants and to jail their supporters. They are all traitors.[/QUOTE]The true face of the wacko left. All 65 million (and more) Trump voters are "traitors" who should be "jailed". In gulags no doubt?

Don't be surprised when your words backfire on you, commie.

[QUOTE=PVMonger;2728219]Once again, you "cherry pick" things. Phillips was working for [B]Russian media[/B] and he was accused of war crimes after saying that a British fighter captured in Ukraine was a mercenary and not a POW. Here's the real story [URL]https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-nottinghamshire-62308528[/URL].
[/QUOTE]Since when is working for a Russian media company or giving your opinion on a news story a crime? Oh, that's right, since the wacko communist thought-gulag left took over. As was the case in the USSR, Pol Pot's Cambodia, North Korea, and the other utopias your ilk have created.

It's actually quite astonishing that you are so ill-educated on civil liberties and individual freedoms that you would applaud a citizen being "sanctioned" by his own government, having his assets frozen and life ruined **WITHOUT BEING ARRESTED OR CHARGED WITH A CRIME* But of course you have not been educated at all, but rather deliberately stupefied by the leftist education-industrial complex, so perhaps it's not so surprising after all.

[QUOTE=Spidy;2727842]Yeah! Definitely HUGE! This radical, far-right, QAnon "baby eating", "conspiracy at every turn", version of Republicans I don't recognize. IMHO, it started with the Reagan administration and has steadily gotten worse, culminating with the Agent Orange, as the least iteration of moral degradation and corruption.



What a motley crew of presidents. You certainly can pick 'em.

Reagan (The 2nd worst of the bunch you chose) - The Godfather of "neo-liberal" capitalism, the "war-on-drugs" and the [b]most puppeted[/b] President of all-time and ushered in age of corporate greed designed to disenfranchise middle and working class Americans.

Clinton (The 3rd worst) - Dude, probably did more for the Republicans than any other Democrat President.

Obama (The 4th worst) - Dude was a bit disappointing. More hard-line measures could have been taken to the banksters and fraudsters of the 2008 crash.

Trump (No.1 and by far the worst) - Enough said w/r to the Orange Buffoon

Well, you have your reasons why you chose, who you chose. There is no wrong or right answer to voting and will also be a personal matter.

But the bear minimum I expect from a president/administration is to uphold some semblance of equality for ALL Americans w/r to peace, democracy and a just rule of law.

Hey, I struggle with the Dems, at times over the years, even coming close to "doing the right thing" and not succumb to "corporate greed machinery", but at least they strive more in the direction of equality and justice. [b](ie. MLK - [/b][i] "the arc of the moral universe is long, but it bends toward justice"[/i][b])[/b]. Republicans not so much! If at all?[/QUOTE]#1 worst of all time BUBBA.

#2 barry hussein.

Here's barry a few days after leaving the sweetest ghost payroll gig of all time.

[URL]https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/obama-kite-surfs-richard-branson-virgin-islands-holiday-n717731[/URL]

Can you say "HOUSE SLAVE".

#3 W.

#4 Joe.

#5 ronnie.

#1 greatest leader in all of recorded history Our Supreme Leader and Lord and Savior.

Donald J Trump the God of All Gods!!

[QUOTE=Jay0940;2728192]Wait. RepubliKKKans spent over a year spewing nonsense about how COVID was a hoax and we "all just needed to get on with life" to the extent that the LT. Gov. Of Texas said old people should be willing to sue if COVID. And now the media "isn't talking enough about COVID? Just want to make sure that's what you're saying because it sounds more like desperate nonsense.

And are you talking about the Russian-Ukraine war where conservatives are supporting an aggressor invading another country? Plenty of articles continue to be written, but you probably don't read them as they're not carried in Newsmax or OAN (if you can find that station anymore after the cable companies cut them off).

Biden has done more in 18 months that Trump and GW did in 12 years. We're out of Afghanistan, we just killed Al-Queda's #2, manufacturing jobs are being created, unemployment is at its lowest point in 60 years, and even the leftover supply chain problems left by Trump have been lessened. We have an infrastructure bill that passed (remember infrastructure week (s) during Trump), and a bill that should pass which will cure some of the problems with Trump's tax scam. Aside from unrealistic expectations that Biden was going to expand the Supreme Court or forgive all student debt, he's done a magnificent job in 18 months with a 50/50 senate.

And if you look at the polls, instead of losing Senate and House seats, Democrats are looking to gain 2-3 Senate seats (PA, OH, IA) and hold the House.

So yes. Sorry the media is not talking about the horrible job Biden is doing.[/QUOTE]ET you have competition for the nickname Baghdad Bob.

Or is this a 2nd acct you have? LMAO.

[QUOTE=Spidy;2728259]Right-wing [b]media thug[/B], brother Jones, owes a $4 Million bag for his Sandy Hook lies. With more to come in punitive damages.

More evidence of [B]lies and words having consequences...[/B]$4 million and counting, in this instance.

[URL]https://www.foxnews.com/us/alex-jones-trial-infowars-founder-must-pay-sandy-hook-victim-jesse-lewis-family-4-million [/URL]

[URL] https://edition.cnn.com/2022/08/04/media/alex-jones-trial-sandy-hook-decision/index.html [/URL][/QUOTE]The punative damage portion was awarded today.

$45.2 million dollars to the first victorious pair of Sandy Hook libeled parents.

It was made high to teach that lying, perjuring scumbag a lesson.

I believe that Alex Jones' attorney found things on Jones's phone that disgusted him.

So he purposely exposed (eventually to the entire world) the contents on that phone.

Did you notice how calm Jones' attorney was when the counsel he opposed exposed he (maybe accidentally) possessed the entire contents of the phone? And failed to ask the contents be removed from the trial? Jones' attorney will make millions when he writes his book (like an accountant that just screwed the despicable boss).

[QUOTE=Paulie97;2728279]The 50's was a golden age for the working man, in spite of three mild recessions, much of which was inherited from Truman and related to the end of the Korean War. You've already acknowledged that recessions typically follow the ending of wars but only Democrats get that benefit in your sloppy, slanted analysis. This was the era of great infrastructure projects, the expansion of social security, increases in the minimum wage, and the creation of HEW which became the department of Health and Human Services. Many bought their first television sets and could afford second cars. Domestic vacations to picturesque places accessed over the highways driving some of the most beautiful cars ever made were routine for the average person. It was a golden age for cinema and music. Inflation and unemployment were low. The list goes on. Of course after all the bluster you can't back down now and save face, but here's an interesting article from the Miller Center, University of VA for the audience, beginning with an excerpt.

"Although mild recessions slowed growth in 1953-1954,1957-1958, and again in 1960, the economy expanded robustly during most of the 1950's. Unemployment was generally low, and inflation usually was 2 percent or less. Indeed, Eisenhower's record of strong growth and low inflation was better than that of any other post-World War II President. Although Old Guard conservatives pressed Eisenhower to cut taxes, the President gave a higher priority to balancing the budget. Eisenhower had moderate successthree of his eight budgets were in the black. Wage earners enjoyed a prosperous decade: During the Eisenhower presidency, personal income increased by 45 percent. Many families used their purchasing power to buy new houses, frequently in suburban developments. Consumers also used their income to acquire many new household items, including television sets and high-fidelity equipment. A few families even made their purchases by using the first charge cards from Diners Club and American Express. ".

[URL]https://millercenter.org/president/eisenhower/domestic-affairs[/URL][/QUOTE]The Eisenhower presidency was such a "golden age" for the working man every major labor union dumped his VP nominee and supported JFK instead:

[B]12 Labor Unions Officially Endorse Kennedy's Ticket; Oct. 21, 1960[/B]

[URL]https://www.nytimes.com/1960/10/21/archives/12-labor-unions-officially-endorse-kennedys-ticket-by-peter.html[/URL]

I guess after Hoover's Great Repub Depression and Eisenhower's THREE Recessions (two of which came well after the Korean Conflict took a break and before Eisenhower's Vietnam War was in full swing), the ordinary working man was kinda' fed up with the Repub brand of gold mining.

And the construction of the Interstate Highway System, which did create jobs and improved national commerce considerably, was FDR's baby (and Truman's), not Eisenhower's:

[B]Interstate Highway System - The Myths[/B]

[URL]https://www.fhwa.dot.gov/interstate/interstatemyths.cfm[/URL]

[QUOTE][b]Myth:
President Eisenhower conceived the Interstate System[/b]

The Interstate System was first described in a Bureau of Public Roads report to Congress, Toll Roads and Free Roads, in 1939. It was authorized for designation by the Federal-Aid Highway Act of 1944, with the initial designations in 1947 and completed in 1955 under the 40,000-mile limitation imposed by the 1944 Act. President Eisenhower didnt conceive the Interstate System, but his support led to enactment of the Federal-Aid Highway Act of 1956, which established the program for funding and building it. [/QUOTE]No Repub or Repub administration has ever conceived of, proposed and initiated a project that good for the working man and America. In any era, they would have been "cancelled" out of the Repub Party if they had.

[QUOTE=Chris P;2728268]Why do the many leftist activist-"journalists" and politicians not owe millions to Donald Trump for their Russia hoax lies?
[/QUOTE]
Why do the many crack-pot right-wing, QAnon nut-job politicians and pseudo media hosts/anchors posing as journalists on right-wing media outlets like Foxy News, not owe hundreds of millions to Americans for their countless lies, falsehoods, fabrications and untruths?

Last I checked, there were domestic terrorists, armed rioters with pipe bombs, armed white supremacist groups, guns at the ready, right-wing militias, 'ranger file' ex-military style attacks on The Capital and the death of 5 capital police officers and hundreds injured. Not to mention the trail of destruction on gov't property, looting, broken glass, loss of historical antique furniture and who can forget the "P1ss" and "human faeces".

[QUOTE=Chris P;2728268]Rather like asking why people who walked through the Capitol have been being tortured in solitary for a year and a half, while violent rioters who burned and looted cities got bail then had charges dropped. [/QUOTE]

Yeah, I know, right! Kind of like those protesters, just walking, singing and protesting peacefully...and then BAM! They're in handcuffs, kicked, beaten, blooded, hospitalized and tortured by police, left to rot in jail and often can't afford bail. Peaceful protesters, rotting away, while we've now come to find out, it was white supremacist agitators who were instigating the looting and burning, all along.

Oh, brother Chris P, I see your injustice, so clearly now.

Last I checked, initially anyways, there were dozens of Jan 6th rioters, getting little to no jail time and let go on supervision or their own recognizance. Personally I thought the Jan 6th terrorists and rioters got-off rather lightly for their acts of sedition.

[QUOTE=Chris P;2728268]Selective, biased law enforcement and judiciary is a sure sign of a [b]banana republic [/b] which will not last. [/QUOTE] So only now is it "selective, biased" LE and judiciary? But when exacted up "violent rioters who burned and looted cities", it's ALL GOOD?

Well I'm sure you've got your [b]"exit the USA, stage-left ticket"[/b] all ready to go? But check your rear-view, as this [i]"banana republic" [/i] thanks to Agent Orange, QAnon/Repubs nut-jobs and a moraless right-wing SCOTUS bent on taking us back to the dark-ages, just may have your pending doom, seem closer than it appears.

[QUOTE=ChrisP;2728343]The true face of the wacko left. All 65 million (and more) Trump voters are "traitors" who should be "jailed". In gulags no doubt?

Don't be surprised when your words backfire on you, commie.[/QUOTE]Nahh hes just a garden variety want to be fascist.

[QUOTE=ChrisP;2728343]The true face of the wacko left. All 65 million (and more) Trump voters are "traitors" who should be "jailed". In gulags no doubt?

Don't be surprised when your words backfire on you, commie.[/QUOTE]It is true Chris. If the Woke Marxists ever win their revolution and take over the country millions will be dragged into gulags by the thought police, mass starvation will occur across the country and the nation will descend into a totalitarian police state. All you have to do is look at the countries where these kinds of revolutions succeeded. The scary thing is no country ever comes back from this. Once the Marxists takeover a country they never give up the power even after they destroy the country, and the people understand the hard way what the fucking revolution was really all about: power.

[QUOTE=Spidy;2728469]Why do the many crack-pot right-wing, QAnon nut-job politicians and pseudo media hosts/anchors posing as journalists on right-wing media outlets like Foxy News, not owe hundreds of millions to Americans for their countless lies, falsehoods, fabrications and untruths?

Last I checked, there were domestic terrorists, armed rioters with pipe bombs, armed white supremacist groups, guns at the ready, right-wing militias, 'ranger file' ex-military style attacks on The Capital and the death of 5 capital police officers and hundreds injured. Not to mention the trail of destruction on gov't property, looting, broken glass, loss of historical antique furniture[/QUOTE]Blablabla irrelevant BS and lies: not a single Jan 6 protester was armed and the only person killed was Ashli Babbitt (but ROFL at your whining over furniture. OMG a table leg got scratched, stop the world!) but the point remains: if Alex Jones has to pay $50 m for broadcasting untruths about Sandy Hook, which didn't cause any financial or physical harm but only hurt people's feelings, most of the fake news, democrats, RINOs and swamp creatures (but I repeat myself) should have to pay that to Donald Trump for broadcasting lies about the Russia hoax.

And to go a little further back, George W Bush and the despicable neocon Cheney (whose even worse daughter showed herself as a vile swamp RINO traitor) should have to pay much more for starting the Iraq war on a series of lies about WMDs. Their statements, unlike Alex Jones's, cost millions of lives and trillions of dollars.

But of course the neocons, like the wacko left, are protected by the Washington Globohomo swamp system. They and their antifa / BLM footsoldiers can lie, cheat, burn, loot and murder with impunity (immediate bail and charges dropped by Soros-funded prosecutors; no federal investigation). Which is why the swamp must be drained.

[QUOTE=Spidy;2728469]Yeah, I know, right! Kind of like those protesters, just walking, singing and protesting peacefully...and then BAM! They're in handcuffs, kicked, beaten, blooded, hospitalized and tortured by police, left to rot in jail and often can't afford bail. Peaceful protesters, rotting away, while we've now come to find out, it was white supremacist agitators who were instigating the looting and burning, all along.[/QUOTE]What are you talking about? Are you claiming that there was "looting and burning" at Jan 6? Provably false, like most of your statements.

Or are you claiming that at the BLM / antifa riots at which there was widespread looting and burning, it was all caused by "white supremacist agitators"? ROFL. You're competing with EihTooms for ISG King of Comedy now.

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2728496]It is true Chris. If the Woke Marxists ever win their revolution and take over the country millions will be dragged into gulags by the thought police, mass starvation will occur across the country and the nation will descend into a totalitarian police state. All you have to do is look at the countries where these kinds of revolutions succeeded. The scary thing is no country ever comes back from this. Once the Marxists takeover a country they never give up the power even after they destroy the country, and the people understand the hard way what the fucking revolution was really all about: power.[/QUOTE]Very true, which is why they are trying so hard to disarm us. Hold the line.

But I would dispute your point that no country ever comes back from leftist Marxist hell: Russia has done a pretty decent job. They are now a broadly patriotic Christian conservative country which is becoming less woke and globohomo (they have recently passed laws to stop trannies and faggots from grooming children and fucking each other in public, they don't have anti-white laws and quotas, and they don't allow women to destroy men's lives on a whim with zero evidence, to name but three good things).

Yeah, sure, you can point to lots of individual problems, but broadly speaking they are on a better path than the West, and have recovered well from 70 years of communist hell followed by 10 years of Jewish oligarchs looting the country. Which is why the Washington swamp (and Jewish oligarchs) want to destroy Russia. They will not succeed.

[QUOTE=ChrisP;2728343]The true face of the wacko left. All 65 million (and more) Trump voters are "traitors" who should be "jailed". In gulags no doubt?

Don't be surprised when your words backfire on you, commie.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2728496]It is true Chris. If the Woke Marxists ever win their revolution and take over the country millions will be dragged into gulags by the thought police, mass starvation will occur across the country and the nation will descend into a totalitarian police state. [/QUOTE]Only the most gullible suckers would believe and talk about such malarky.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2728189]WTF?

America's adversaries and enemies apparently don't get every anti-American thing they want at America's expense from current Dem leadership without acting out like they were delighted to be handed to them easy peasy from the prior Repub "leadership. ".

I mean, that is apparently WTF.

Doesn't it look that way to you too?[/QUOTE]A dem "leader" (Pelosi) goes on a diplomatic trip, and missiles start flying in that region! Great diplomacy for world peace LOL.

Ok with all seriousness, who's responsible for all the lives lost in these dem provoked wars? Aren't you guys the party of world peace and humanity?

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2728357]#1 worst of all time BUBBA.

#2 barry hussein.

Here's barry a few days after leaving the sweetest ghost payroll gig of all time.

[URL]https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/obama-kite-surfs-richard-branson-virgin-islands-holiday-n717731[/URL]

Can you say "HOUSE SLAVE".

#3 W.

#4 Joe.

#5 ronnie.

#1 greatest leader in all of recorded history Our Supreme Leader and Lord and Savior.

Donald J Trump the God of All Gods!![/QUOTE]As long as you have a special love in your heart for those who produced the absolute worst average annual USA private sector jobs creation results in raw numbers and / or percentages and a special hatred for those who produced the best, why didn't W win a spot in 2nd place behind your #1 Favorite, Trump?

And no special love for Herbert Hoover? Why in your world not?

Again, this is another time where Eisenhower should have gotten an Honorable Mention among your favorites. Not only did he manage to produce and preside over THREE Recessions in just 8 years, not coincidentally he also had one of the worst jobs creation records ever:

[URL]https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jobs_created_during_U.S._presidential_terms[/URL]#Job_creation_by_USA _presidential_four-year_term.

I mean, as long as you are lovin' yourself a #1 Favorite so-called president who could not have done a worse job on behalf of the American working stiff, how did you miss listing Hoover, W, Bush1 and Eisenhower among a Top 5 without disturbing Trump's well-deserved #1 position?

The Eisenhower presidency was such a "golden age" for the working man every major labor union dumped his VP nominee and supported JFK instead:

No Repub or Repub administration has ever conceived of, proposed and initiated a project that good for the working man and America. In any era, they would have been "cancelled" out of the Repub Party if they had. No Repub or Repub administration has ever conceived of, proposed and initiated a project that good for the working man and America. In any era, they would have been "cancelled" out of the Repub Party if they had.

[URL]https://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/30/opinion/sunday/ross-douthat-donald-trump-traitor-to-his-class.html[/URL]

Like the 2 sham impeachments.

[QUOTE=ChrisP;2728593]they have recently passed laws to stop trannies and faggots from grooming children and fucking each other in public,[/QUOTE]Really? Thats pretty interesting. I wonder how it came to be? Did they specifically pass laws preventing them yet allowing everyone else to FK children and each other in public? Or did the previously have laws that expressly allowed them to FK children and in public, and have now repealed them? Please explain, I am curious.

I mean, what is thematerial difference between them fkin children and in public, and say a white supremacist doing it?

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2728496]. If the Woke Marxists ever win their revolution and take over the country millions will be dragged into gulags by the thought police, mass starvation will occur across the country and the nation will descend into a totalitarian police state.[/QUOTE]You mean the people will finally escape from lives of informal tent camps and be given state funded accommodation and food?

And the nation will remain a totalitarian police state governed by thought police. Not much change there then, but overall looks like a winner for Avge Joe.

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2728268]#1 worst of all time BUBBA.

#2 barry hussein.

Here's barry a few days after leaving the sweetest ghost payroll gig of all time.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...oliday-n717731

Can you say "HOUSE SLAVE".

#3 W.

#4 Joe.

#5 ronnie.

#1 greatest leader in all of recorded history Our Supreme Leader and Lord and Savior.

Donald J Trump the God of All Gods!![/QUOTE]If the post wasn't clear, this is just me ranking [b]brother Elvis'[/b] list. IT'S NOT MY RANKING!.

Just putting a little [b]OBJECTIVITY[/b] into brother Elvis's POTUS ranking. Look's like I may have to do the same with yours...urrrh!

I do know this though and I'll just say/repeat, the NO.1 WORST POTUS of ALL-TIME is (drum roll please).....you guess it, [b]The Orange Buffoon,[/b] Agent Orange, [b]Donald Drumpf,[/b] Twitler Tweeter and [b]Hair Fuhrer[/b] of the underworld, Putin's Puppet and the Hair Hitler, himself, yes your [b]Donnie J. Dummkopf. [/b]

BTW, quick update for the Agent Orange "cult-faithless", don't forget to "donate" to the latest call for help for "funds", called "The Official Defense Fund - We Need to Fight Back!". Be generous now!

[QUOTE=Spidy;2728469]
So only now is it "selective, biased" LE and judiciary? But when exacted up "violent rioters who burned and looted cities", it's ALL GOOD?
[/QUOTE]The whole point of the post, which was apparently above and beyond your comprehension level, is that no punishment is exacted upon the violent leftist rioters who burned and looted cities.

Most of the rioters were simply allowed to get away (I recall when there was an effort by the police to apprehend them, leftist media began accusing the police of "kidnapping" them). For the few that were apprehended, there was a huge movement among wacko left celebrities, supported and promoted in fake news media and social media, to raise money for their bail.

That's for the more egregious criminals: most of the rioters were released immediately with no bail by Soros-funded leftist DAs in the democrat shitholes they burned. Then those same DAs quietly dropped the charges, so the rioters faced no punishment whatsoever.

One might have expected the feds to get involved, given such open corruption at local law enforcement level, particularly as many of the rioters attacked and burned federal buildings. But no, there has been no FBI investigation of the leftist antifa / BLM riots and the billions of dollars of damage and destruction they caused across America.

Instead, the feds have spent all their resources hunting and dragging into custody at gunpoint elderly grandmas who wandered into the Capitol through open doors, ushered in by police, took some photos, then left peacefully and went home.

The FBI and the entire "Justice" Department have become an integral part of the Washington swamp / deep state. They all have to go. And they will, as our civilization crumbles and can no longer support them.

[QUOTE=Gino02;2728615]A dem "leader" (Pelosi) goes on a diplomatic trip, and missiles start flying in that region! Great diplomacy for world peace LOL.

Ok with all seriousness, who's responsible for all the lives lost in these dem provoked wars? Aren't you guys the party of world peace and humanity?[/QUOTE]Pelosi following in the footsteps of another leading democrat womb-haver (I think that's the leftist-approved term for them now), Crooked Hillary Clinton, who directly caused the violent chaos, slave markets and uncontrolled immigration into Europe still going on now, with her foolish intervention in Libya.

Democrats: They don't only fuck up America.

[QUOTE= ScatManDoo;2728374]The punative damage portion was awarded today.

$45.2 million dollars to the first victorious pair of Sandy Hook libeled parents.

It was made high to teach that lying, perjuring scumbag a lesson.[/QUOTE]

I am sure, perhaps the Agent Orange "cult-faithless" can "donate" and help out with the payment...kkkk!

[QUOTE= ScatManDoo;2728374]I believe that Alex Jones' attorney found things on Jones's phone that disgusted him.

So he purposely exposed (eventually to the entire world) the contents on that phone.

Did you notice how calm Jones' attorney was when the counsel he opposed exposed he (maybe accidentally) possessed the entire contents of the phone? And failed to ask the contents be removed from the trial? Jones' attorney will make millions when he writes his book (like an accountant that just screwed the despicable boss). [/QUOTE]

Absolutely! I'm all for, however the truth is revealed. If his lawyer happens to make money off his $50 million in "suffering, pain and misery" (not that I'm advocating this), then I'm sure brother Jones will understand, being a patron and purveyor of the unscrupulous, amoral and [i][b]despicable practice, of profiting from the suffering of others. [/b][/i]

In short, "pay back is b$tch"!!

[QUOTE=JustTK;2728897]You mean the people will finally escape from lives of informal tent camps and be given state funded accommodation and food?
[/QUOTE]The only people living in tents are the absolute junkie dregs who would be losers under any political system, plus illegals who shouldn't even be in the country. And they already get plenty of state-funded handouts.

[QUOTE=ChrisP;2728916]Pelosi following in the footsteps of another leading democrat womb-haver (I think that's the leftist-approved term for them now), Crooked Hillary Clinton, who directly caused the violent chaos, slave markets and uncontrolled immigration into Europe still going on now, with her foolish intervention in Libya.

Democrats: They don't only fuck up America.[/QUOTE]LOL. The spineless appeasement and slavish catering to the wishes and whims of the foreign and domestic enemies of democracy and American interests by Wingers is pathetic. But not surprising.

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2728883]The Eisenhower presidency was such a "golden age" for the working man every major labor union dumped his VP nominee and supported JFK instead:

No Repub or Repub administration has ever conceived of, proposed and initiated a project that good for the working man and America. In any era, they would have been "cancelled" out of the Repub Party if they had. No Repub or Repub administration has ever conceived of, proposed and initiated a project that good for the working man and America. In any era, they would have been "cancelled" out of the Repub Party if they had.

[URL]https://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/30/opinion/sunday/ross-douthat-donald-trump-traitor-to-his-class.html[/URL]

Like the 2 sham impeachments.[/QUOTE]I only got paid subscription demand pop ups on that link so I could not read whatever that idiot thought Trump was a "traitor" to back in 2015.

But since then we have all learned he is a stone cold devoted traitor to America, democracy domestically and abroad, free and fair elections, law and order, his Oath to preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States, USA's national security, the health and well-being of America and the truth.

[QUOTE=ChrisP;2728961]The only people living in tents are the absolute junkie dregs who would be losers under any political system, plus illegals who shouldn't even be in the country. And they already get plenty of state-funded handouts.[/QUOTE]Got any stats to support that as well? Or is this yet more hateful, biggotted nonsense? I am not surprised your country is on the verge of civil war. I mean, who would want to share a country w people like you?

Ever wonder why only deperados want to go live in the USA? The answer is ppl like YOU!!! No one in their right mind wants to live in such a hateful place.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2728322]Even the ultra Repub / winger-leaning Rasmussen Poll has the previous uncharacteristic Repub advantage in their Generic Congressional Control question plunging from double digits to a mere 3%, well within a normal +/-MoE.

Which helped to bring the demonstrably Repub / winger-leaning RealClearPolitics' Poll of Polls on the question to an insignificant 0. 1% Repub advantage on the question today:

[URL]https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/2022-generic-congressional-vote-7361.html[/URL]

Oh, and the more reliable and highly regarded FiveThirtyEight polling service now shows Dems leading Repubs on the question:

[URL]https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/generic-ballot/[/URL]

Those polls were taken before Biden / Dems' latest remarkable historic economic achievements re Jobs Creation and their pending terrific Inflation Reduction Act legislation (BBB Redux), the provisions in which the majority of Americans have wanted done for decades, was announced. So, "watch this space". LOL.

But they were taken after national gas prices continued to decline over the past 50+ days.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2022/08/07/gop-rep-meijer-easy-to-see-dems-meddling-in-primaries-backfiring-in-a-spectacular-way/[/URL]

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2728972]LOL. The spineless appeasement and slavish catering to the wishes and whims of the foreign and domestic enemies of democracy and American interests by Wingers is pathetic. But not surprising.[/QUOTE]What exactly was achieved by Pelosi's Taiwan visit, besides stroking her ego, provoking China to invade Taiwan, increasing chances of thousands of innocent Taiwanese people to get killed (similar to what Biden did to the innocent people killed in Ukraine) and increasing chances of moving more money from US Taxpayers to the military industrial complex? Even Biden didn't directly support her trip, Pentagon was against the trip, and China got to ask who exactly is the US Leader now!

Please be specific on your response.

[QUOTE=Chris P;2728590] ... if Alex Jones has to pay $50 m for broadcasting untruths about Sandy Hook, which didn't cause any financial or physical harm but only hurt people's feelings, most of the fake news, democrats, RINOs and swamp creatures (but I repeat myself) should have to pay that to Donald Trump for broadcasting lies about the Russia hoax. [/QUOTE] Yeah, still waiting for Foxy News to pay hundreds of millions, for the lies and fake news.

So your claiming, it's all good in the "right-wing hood", when soulless right-wing media thugs, prey on, profit and spread untruths from the Sandy Hook deaths of 20 children and the suffering that followed from the family and friends...? Really? Not that I'm surprised, coming from the QAnon "baby eating" right.

[QUOTE=Chris P;2728590] ... which didn't cause any financial or physical harm but [b]only hurt people's feelings[/b] ... [/QUOTE]
Brother Chris P, is now "All Knowing Chris P". Or should I say the "Swami Chris P", or perhaps "Guru Chris P", or better yet "Svengali Chris P"?

What I mean is, for you to claim, that you know, every family member, friend and the Sandy Hook larger community, [b]only suffered "hurt people feelings",[/b] from the taunting lunatic rants of a right-wing media thug, after they experienced the horrific massacre of their children, is just stupefyingly DENSE (to borrow a word from brother Elvis).

[u]More Questions:[/u]
• How is it exactly that you know SO MUCH about what the Sandy Hook family members of those 20 children that were massacred/died, [b]did[/b] and [b]did not[/b] suffer, at the hands of this ranting lunatic right-wing media thug?

• Do you have information on each households financials pre/post-child death rants by loony Jones?

• Are you their psychiatrist, therapist or medical doctor and can attest to their mental/physical condition?

• Do you have the information on their disrupted lives, from this right-wing "Trump Humping" media lunatic pre/post rants?

• Other than your "crystal ball" and "tea leaves", do you have ANYTHING to substantiate your claims against these families, that it was "only hurt people's feelings?"

Even more astounding, but again not surprising, as it highlights, the raising number of insensitive QAnon lunatic fringe, type Rebups, desensitized and numb to the plight of Americans in times of hardship anguish and grief.

"Suffer Capitalism", all in the name of the almighty dollar, profit, greed and/or narcissistic self-aggrandizing shameful infamy.

Let's hope $50 million in damages sends a strong message.

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2728993][URL]https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2022/08/07/gop-rep-meijer-easy-to-see-dems-meddling-in-primaries-backfiring-in-a-spectacular-way/[/URL][/QUOTE]From your link:

[B]GOP Rep. Meijer: Easy to See Dems Meddling in Primaries Backfiring in a Spectacular Way[/B]

He isn't exactly clear what he means by "backfiring". But if he means the Dems risked an even loonier Repub (one endorsed by Trump) than a more "normal / moderate" one winning this year due to their efforts to help the supposedly "loonier" one win the primary to become the nominee, that is a total non issue.

Here's why:

There are no "normal / moderate" Repubs. There are all equally loony America-haters. There are only normal / moderate "pretending" Repubs or demonstrably proud and loud America-hating loons.

In terms of promoting and voting for legislation certain to produce horrific results while demonizing Dem legislation destined to produce terrific results, there is zero difference between Louis Gohmert, Ted Cruz or Donald Trump and Liz Cheney, MittWitt Romney or Ron DeSantis.

If anything, the "normal / moderate"-seeming Repubs have done more damage to America than the demonstrably loony ones. Reagan and W Bush both seemed to be "normal / moderate" Repubs but their damage to America was only marginally worse than that of Trump. Given the same set of opportunities, I have no doubt both of them would have led a cop-killing mob to attack the seat of American democracy if they thought for one minute their doing so would keep them or other Repubs in power to do more damage to America.

The strategy in question simply put the America-hating looniness of the entire Repub Party and their supporters on display for the world to see. Which is a good thing. As the tightening Generic Ballot polls are showing.

[QUOTE=Spidy;2729101]
Are you their psychiatrist, therapist or medical doctor and can attest to their mental/physical condition?
[/QUOTE]And there we have it. Leftist abuse of "psychiatry", just as they used to do in the Soviet Union.

Leftist psychiatrist Doctor Shekelstein goes before leftist activist Judge Steinbergwitz: "Oy veh, my poor client was brutally assaulted by those words someone said about them. There is no objective test to show the "injury", no brain scan to show how and where they were "injured", but it's a mental holocaust and this uppity goy must pay millions in restitution!

It starts with financially attacking people, but soon enough they'll just be thrown into prison for "hate speech", just as people are in the rest of the formerly-free West.

Of course, it never works the other way round. No leftist will ever be ruined for lying about a conservative, as can be seen by the endless lies about the Russia hoax. That's free speech, you see.

Blacks and antifa communists burning down your city is also free speech. But "silence is violence", so if you fail to vocally support their rioting, burning and looting, you're guilty of violent assault. Got that, goyim?

[QUOTE=Gino02;2729047]What exactly was achieved by Pelosi's Taiwan visit, besides stroking her ego, provoking China to invade Taiwan, increasing chances of thousands of innocent Taiwanese people to get killed (similar to what Biden did to the innocent people killed in Ukraine) and increasing chances of moving more money from US Taxpayers to the military industrial complex? Even Biden didn't directly support her trip, Pentagon was against the trip, and China got to ask who exactly is the US Leader now!

Please be specific on your response.[/QUOTE]She also got to check on her insider trading investments in Taiwanese microchip factories.

[QUOTE=JustTK;2728977]Got any stats to support that as well? Or is this yet more hateful, biggotted nonsense? I am not surprised your country is on the verge of civil war. I mean, who would want to share a country w people like you?

Ever wonder why only deperados want to go live in the USA? The answer is ppl like YOU!!! No one in their right mind wants to live in such a hateful place.[/QUOTE]"The sky is blue. " "goT aNy StAtS tO sUpPOrT tHaT?

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And FYI more people want to move to the USA than anywhere else. [URL]https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2013/03/22/a-revealing-map-of-who-wants-to-move-to-the-u-s/[/URL].

"Gallup released some new data this week on migration, for which they asked people from 154 countries if they would like to migrate, and if so where to. The United States was by far the most popular destination; Gallup estimates that 138 million people would like to relocate there. The United Kingdom was the second-most popular, with 42 million".

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2729119]America-hating looniness of the entire Repub Party and their supporters.[/QUOTE]Leftists literally want to erase the flag, anthem, history and heritage of America, and call the other side "America-hating". Pure clownworld.

CBS released a documentary yesterday detailing how only 30% of the tens of billions of dollars of advanced weaponry the US is sending to Ukraine actually gets to Ukrainian troops. They have no idea where the rest of it is.

Today, the entire thing has been erased. [URL]https://stormer-daily.rw/cbs-deletes-arming-ukraine-documentary-says-the-us-government-told-them-to/[/URL].

That's what happens when they accidentally put out real news for a change, rather than following the Washington swamp script and The Agenda.

[QUOTE=Gino02;2729047]What exactly was achieved by Pelosi's Taiwan visit, besides stroking her ego, provoking China to invade Taiwan, increasing chances of thousands of innocent Taiwanese people to get killed (similar to what Biden did to the innocent people killed in Ukraine) and increasing chances of moving more money from US Taxpayers to the military industrial complex? Even Biden didn't directly support her trip, Pentagon was against the trip, and China got to ask who exactly is the US Leader now!

Please be specific on your response.[/QUOTE]Remember "Peace Through Strength"?

How about growing a pair, shoring up our allies and supporting democracies while farting in the face of the enemies of democracy for nice change after 4 years of a so-called potus publicly licking ass and blowing our adversaries and enemies of democracy while farting in the face of our allies. Oh, and farting in America's face as well.

So Beijing acts out that they, too, might further unite Western democracies and show the world how lousy its military is just like Russia did.

Ohhhh, gee. I hope we never do anything to provoke them into doing that.

Xi isn't as stupid as Putin. And he has gotten quite an education over the past 2-3 months. As has every other wannabe authoritarian dictator. If he wants to watch an even more united Free World flood Taiwan with everything it needs to prevent him from winning any damn thing by stirring up shit instead of continuing to sell his crap to worldwide customers, go for it.

You might want America to hide under a bed and avoid a perfectly legitimate diplomatic and commerce-driven visit by top elected officials in America because Xi is sabre rattling. All the usual good reasons for Pelosi having such a meeting apply here. There are no good reasons to cower from it.

Now that America Is Back, it's time to show the world we are no longer too afraid, too stupid or too paid off by god-knows-who to show it.

[QUOTE=Chris P;2728590] ... But of course the neocons, like the wacko left, are protected by the Washington Globohomo swamp system. They and their antifa / BLM footsoldiers can lie, cheat, burn, loot and murder with impunity (immediate bail and charges dropped by Soros-funded prosecutors; no federal investigation). Which is why the swamp must be drained... [/QUOTE]

FBI, watch-list know and name many the leaders of right-wing flunky/white supremacist groups, such as the Proud Boys, Oath Keepers, Biker Gangs, KKK ..etc. Who are these "antifa" leaders?

[QUOTE=Chris P;2728590]What are you talking about? Are you claiming that there was "looting and burning" at Jan 6? Provably false, like most of your statements.[/QUOTE] YES, YES, YES!!! That's a big fat YES! Where have you been? Definitely more looting and vandalizing then burning, but YES.

Let me spell it out for you, if you haven't figured it out by now. Whether it's burning or vandalizing, followed by looting, the results are the same. A destruction and/or theft of government/private property!

[QUOTE=Chris P;2728590]Blablabla irrelevant BS and lies: not a single Jan 6 protester was armed and the only person killed was Ashli Babbitt (but ROFL at your whining over furniture. OMG a table leg got scratched, stop the world!) ... Or are you claiming that at the BLM / antifa riots at which there was widespread looting and burning, it was all caused by "white supremacist agitators"? ROFL... [/QUOTE]

Now your catching on, there you go asking the right questions. YES, white supremacist agitators, instigators and agent provocateurs started the rioting and killing, during many of the peaceful BLM protesting. Just like the killing of Heather Heyer, in Charlottesville, by the Proud Boy/Neo-Nazi rioters.

[QUOTE]"Members of far-right groups conspired to incite violence and start a civil war during protests of George Floyd's killing, according to the FBI."

[URL]https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/fbi-white-supremacists-coordinated-riots-110000017.html[/URL] [/QUOTE]

But wait, are you claiming LE and BLM ("blue lives matter") don't matter? And that the 5 Capital Policemen didn't die as a result of the brutality at the hands of Jan 6th seditious, terrorist "Trump-Humper" rioters? And that the hundreds of Capital Police Officers, that were hospitalized and injured from the rioters, didn't happen?

In it's totality, it sounds like you are more worried about a couple of insured and replaceable shops/businesses with smashed glass or a few burnt cars, OVER the [u]irreplaceable[/u] "BLUE LIVES" of police officers that were beaten and killed at the hands of domestic terrorists and "Trump-Humpes" rioters. So much for the vaunted GOP/QOP concern for the lives of police and LE.

[QUOTE=Chris P;2728590]... You're competing with EihTooms for ISG King of Comedy now. [/QUOTE]W/R to comedy (much like brother Elvis), you as a no doubt staunch purveyor of Foxy News [i](hint: [b]which is really just [u]comic relief[/u] disguised as news[/b]),[/i] I'm sure you'll have no trouble relating to my "comedic" reports.

[QUOTE=Chris P;2729228]And there we have it. Leftist abuse of "psychiatry", just as they used to do in the Soviet Union.

Leftist psychiatrist Doctor Shekelstein goes before leftist activist Judge Steinbergwitz: "Oy veh, my poor client was brutally assaulted by those words someone said about them. There is no objective test to show the "injury", no brain scan to show how and where they were "injured", but it's a mental holocaust and this uppity goy must pay millions in restitution! [/QUOTE] Next you'll be telling us how they did "psychiatry" in Burkina Faso or the Congo. How about during Nazi Germany? Shhhesh!

[QUOTE=Chris P;2729228]It starts with financially attacking people, but soon enough they'll just be thrown into prison for "hate speech", just as people are in the rest of the formerly-free West.

Of course, it never works the other way round. No leftist will ever be ruined for lying about a conservative, as can be seen by the endless lies about the Russia hoax. That's free speech, you see.

Blacks and antifa communists burning down your city is also free speech. But "silence is violence", so if you fail to vocally support their rioting, burning and looting, you're guilty of violent assault. Got that, goyim?[/QUOTE]

Free Speech, sure! [b]Hate speech not so much! [/b]

Spout, proclaim and pontificate all the lies, fabrication, and hate speech you want. No one is going to stop you. Just don't forget (as the QOP often do)...the CONSEQUENCES that come with.

I think we've already established, words, speech, tweeting or texting have consequences, check back a few pages, this has already been covered.

But I'll sum it up for you ACTIONS, WORDS , TWEETS (or free speech) have CONSEQUENCES.

[QUOTE=Spidy;2729101][u]More Questions:[/u]
• How is it exactly that you know SO MUCH about what the Sandy Hook family members of those 20 children that were massacred/died, did and did not suffer, at the hands of this ranting lunatic right-wing media thug?

• Do you have information on each households financials pre/post-child death rants by loony Jones?

[b]• Are you their psychiatrist, therapist or medical doctor and can attest to their mental/physical condition? [/b]

• Do you have the information on their disrupted lives, from this right-wing "Trump Humping" media lunatic pre/post rants?

• Other than your "crystal ball" and "tea leaves", do you have ANYTHING to substantiate your claims against these families, that it was "only hurt people's feelings?" [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ChrisP;2729228]And there we have it. Leftist abuse of "psychiatry", just as they used to do in the Soviet Union... [/QUOTE]So, I guess that would be a hard NO to psychiatrist, therapist or medical doctor.

[QUOTE=Spidy;2729316]So, I guess that would be a hard NO to psychiatrist, therapist or medical doctor.[/QUOTE]You should have tried DOOFUS.

[QUOTE=ChrisP;2729237]Leftists literally want to erase the flag, anthem, history and heritage of America, and call the other side "America-hating". Pure clownworld.[/QUOTE]Yes, I would count passing a historic bipartisan infrastructure bill, a chip manufacture bill to promote greater USA independence in that critical industry along with more and better USA jobs and the pending Inflation Reduction Act, among dozens of other pro America Dem achievements over the decades over the umpteenth Great Repub Recession, every massive job destruction of the past 100 years and doing nothing but playing golf, diddling their Tweeter, hugging flags, mouthing forgotten anthem lyrics and leading a violent cop-killing insurrection using those flag poles to attack cops to overthrow American democracy while officially branding it "Legitimate Political Discourse" as far, far more telling evidence for which side hates America any day.

[QUOTE=Spidy;2729257] YES, white supremacist agitators, instigators and agent provocateurs started the rioting and killing, during many of the peaceful BLM protesting. [/QUOTE]HAHAHAHA! Congratulations! I didn't think it was possible, but you have officially superseded Eihtooms as the comedy king of the forum. Have mercy on my aching ribs.

[QUOTE=Spidy;2729271]Next you'll be telling us how they did "psychiatry" in Burkina Faso or the Congo. [/QUOTE]Much of "psychiatry" is some weird fantasy made up by a coke-addled jew about fucking his mother or something. There is no empirical test for any of it. It is as scientifically valid as witch doctors in Burkina Faso or the Congo.

In real branches of medicine, there is empirical evidence: you break your arm, the fracture is right there on the X-ray; you get lung cancer, the cancer cells show up on the scan.

There is no brain scan from which one can tell what so-called "psychiatric affliction" a patient has. It's just on the claim of some psychiatrist, with no way to prove it either way. This was abused in the USSR, where political dissidents against the communist tyranny were declared "mentally ill" by "psychiatrists", and locked up indefinitely. Now the communists are in America, and they're using the same tricks. Plus ca change.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2729256]Remember "Peace Through Strength"?

How about growing a pair, shoring up our allies and supporting democracies while farting in the face of the enemies of democracy for nice change after 4 years of a so-called potus publicly licking ass and blowing our adversaries and enemies of democracy while farting in the face of our allies. Oh, and farting in America's face as well.

So Beijing acts out that they, too, might further unite Western democracies and show the world how lousy its military is just like Russia did.

Ohhhh, gee. I hope we never do anything to provoke them into doing that.

Xi isn't as stupid as Putin. And he has gotten quite an education over the past 2-3 months. As has every other wannabe authoritarian dictator. If he wants to watch an even more united Free World flood Taiwan with everything it needs to prevent him from winning any damn thing by stirring up shit instead of continuing to sell his crap to worldwide customers, go for it.

You might want America to hide under a bed and avoid a perfectly legitimate diplomatic and commerce-driven visit by top elected officials in America because Xi is sabre rattling. All the usual good reasons for Pelosi having such a meeting apply here. There are no good reasons to cower from it.

Now that America Is Back, it's time to show the world we are no longer too afraid, too stupid or too paid off by god-knows-who to show it.[/QUOTE]You just repeated one of my points, with way too many words to justify an ego trip, and without answering exactly what else (diplomatically or commercially) did this Pelosi trip achieved. I know why though, because it didn't achieve anything else, and you know it. Grow some balls to accept defeat and learn.

[QUOTE=Gino02;2729047]What exactly was achieved by Pelosi's Taiwan visit, besides stroking her ego, provoking China to invade Taiwan, increasing chances of thousands of innocent Taiwanese people to get killed (similar to what Biden did to the innocent people killed in Ukraine) and increasing chances of moving more money from US Taxpayers to the military industrial complex? [/QUOTE]Tooms is right. We don't cower to dictators and we support our democratic partners abroad. We also have no interest in your unsubstantiated conspiracy theories, whether they be about Covid or wars. Only 11 Republican senators voted against the latest aid package to Ukraine. Of those supporting many like Rick Scott were far more hawkish than Biden so accuse all of them of "killing 1000's of innocents. " If you are concerned about human lives then talk to Trump's boy Vlad who started the aggression and war crimes and can stop whenever he likes. But you aren't concerned about that, you want to push your fringe politics in a matter that shares wide bi-partisan support while pretending that it's all about Biden. Yawns.

[QUOTE=ChrisP;2728590]
What are you talking about? Are you claiming that there was "looting and burning" at Jan 6? Provably false, like most of your statements.[/QUOTE]There was at least some lootings as a couple of characters were charged with stealing items from Pelosi's office. Minor stuff though compared to the baseball bats, bear spray, smashing out windows, beating and killing cops, zip ties, gallows for the VP, all aimed to stop an election certification and transfer of power. But you guys are always the victims. We get it as that's the only role you know how to play. Poor pitiful you.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srpwqf2MWAw[/URL]

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2729351]Yes, I would count passing a historic bipartisan infrastructure bill, a chip manufacture bill to promote greater USA independence in that critical industry along with more and better USA jobs and the pending Inflation Reduction Act, among dozens of other pro America Dem achievements over the decades over the umpteenth Great Repub Recession, every massive job destruction of the past 100 years and doing nothing but playing golf, diddling their Tweeter, hugging flags, mouthing forgotten anthem lyrics and leading a violent cop-killing insurrection using those flag poles to attack cops to overthrow American democracy while officially branding it "Legitimate Political Discourse" as far, far more telling evidence for which side hates America any day.[/QUOTE]Talk about statement of the obvious. Chris is owned yet again.

[QUOTE=ChrisP;2729228]

Of course, it never works the other way round. No leftist will ever be ruined for lying about a conservative, as can be seen by the endless lies about the Russia hoax. [/QUOTE]Then why did a number of individuals connected to the Trump campaign lie about their links to and meetings with Russian officials? Here's a list of indictments and convictions, several of whom Trump later pardoned. Dismissing all that as a "hoax" insults the intelligence of the American people though some need their intelligence insulted. We do know though that Trump is good at evading personal consequences and creating fall guys.

[URL]https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/2/20/17031772/mueller-indictments-grand-jury[/URL]

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2729351]Yes, I would count passing a historic bipartisan infrastructure bill, a chip manufacture bill to promote greater USA independence in that critical industry along with more and better USA jobs and the pending Inflation Reduction Act, among dozens of other pro America Dem achievements over the decades over the umpteenth Great Repub Recession, every massive job destruction of the past 100 years and doing nothing but playing golf, diddling their Tweeter, hugging flags, mouthing forgotten anthem lyrics and leading a violent cop-killing insurrection using those flag poles to attack cops to overthrow American democracy while officially branding it "Legitimate Political Discourse" as far, far more telling evidence for which side hates America any day.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2022/08/08/fbi-raids-former-president-donald-trumps-home/[/URL]

[QUOTE=ChrisP;2728913]The whole point of the post, which was apparently above and beyond your comprehension level, is that no punishment is exacted upon the violent leftist rioters who burned and looted cities...[/QUOTE]When it's all fabrication, lies and nonsense, there is nothing to comprehend.

Perhaps, other than to recognize utter total BS, when I see it. Especially coming from someone who loves to gaslight everything to the left of QAnon politics.

I think you must have me confused with fellow right-wing QAnon ISG conspirator kinfolk, that actually believes your nonsense and gaslighting drivel.

May I suggest pontificating and sermonizing your nonsense all you want, to the "choir" on the right, as I'm sure they'll enjoy your parroting of right-wing media talking-points.

[QUOTE=ChrisP;2728913]The FBI and the entire "Justice" Department have become an integral part of the Washington swamp / deep state. They all have to go. And they will, as our civilization crumbles and can no longer support them.[/QUOTE]It hilarious, how you see the corruption, failings, ineptitude and inherent faults of other government departments, but blinded by the even more egregious, toxic, abhorrent and sometimes criminal behavior, that is widespread in the "QAnon Repub House of Sin".

Perhaps first try cleaning the GOP / QOP "house of toxicity", which I assure you, will go along way to stabilizing your Trumpian made "crumbling civilization".

PS: FBI raids Orange Dude's Florida home and Mar-a-Lago, this should be interesting.

[QUOTE=ScatManDoo;2660551]Elvis,

I am predicting that the Democrats will lose zero net seats in the Senate.

Largely because the RNC is inept.[/QUOTE]How is the prediction I made in February turning out?

[QUOTE=Gino02;2729403]You just repeated one of my points, with way too many words to justify an ego trip, and without answering exactly what else (diplomatically or commercially) did this Pelosi trip achieved. I know why though, because it didn't achieve anything else, and you know it. Grow some balls to accept defeat and learn.[/QUOTE]At the very least it is great for America, our allies and democracy to have the duly elected 2nd in line for the presidency and one of the best Speakers of the House ever show support for Taiwan before likely consistent historical precedent finds an America-hating QAnon Repub loon like spineless KevIn McCarthy assuming the gavel and launching into the typical Repub ass licking of America's adversaries both foreign and domestic.

Wilson, WY — Former Vice President Dick Cheney, who famously started two wars in the Middle East and shot a dude in the face while hunting, now says Donald Trump is the greatest threat America has ever faced.

"Donald Trump is an evil reprobate and a big meanie, and a danger to our Constitutional rights," growled the retired politician who orchestrated the brutal torture of hundreds of detainees who were held without trial. "We must make sure he never gets elected to office again. And also, vote for my daughter, Liz."

Political consultants applauded Liz Cheney for her brilliant move of tapping one of the most hated politicians in history to help boost her political chances. Initial polling indicates her approval has climbed. 0000002 percentage points since Dick Cheney's statement.

"If there's a singular figure universally adored by every hard-working American, it's Dick Cheney," said a spokesperson for the campaign. "We are grateful for his endorsement, and look forward to seeing her represent the citizens of Wyoming."

Trump was quick to respond to Cheney's statement, saying "Poor little Dick Cheney! He's so mad that I got elected president instead of him. Boo hoo! Maybe he should stop shooting dudes in the face! Sorry, Dick!

At publishing time, Liz Cheney's approval dipped again after her Dad accidentally shot another dude in the face.

[QUOTE=ChrisP;2729375]HAHAHAHA! Congratulations! I didn't think it was possible, but you have officially superseded Eihtooms as the comedy king of the forum. Have mercy on my aching ribs.[/QUOTE]

What a great month this has been so far for America, its economy, the future, law and order and democracy!

[QUOTE=Paulie97;2729455]Talk about statement of the obvious. Chris is owned yet again.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Spidy;2729482]PS: FBI raids Orange Dude's Florida home and Mar-a-Lago, this should be interesting.[/QUOTE]MAGA-ots are not pleased.

Months ago federal employees went to Mar-a-lago to retrieve the contents of approximately 14 boxes of records that TrumpShit took from the White House in January 2020 because he was voted out of office.

There has been no reporting of how much of the 14 boxes of records were retrieved and what portion was still missing.

If federal classified documents were in a Mar-a-lago safe today at the FBI search.

I would guess TS would be arrested first and booked later.

Like a street thug on any ordinary day.

FUX News' lead story tomorrow:

[B]WH Document Reveals Biden Did Not Object When Obama Wore a Tan Suit That Day![/B]