[QUOTE=YyzTravel;2514640]Before the player haters come out .[/QUOTE]And hey we don't talk like that around here, this is not the Jerry Springer show circa 1993.
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[QUOTE=YyzTravel;2514640]Before the player haters come out .[/QUOTE]And hey we don't talk like that around here, this is not the Jerry Springer show circa 1993.
[QUOTE=GringoItaliano;2514642]I went to Bogota for my third trip to that city a few weeks after my trip to Medellin in November. I wanted to take further advantage of the pre-Christmas rush and squeeze in another trip while Colombia was still suspending the PCR test requirement and before Biden imprisons us in the Matrix. My interest in Bogota specifically, the Santa Fe red light district stemmed from what I saw of the renaissance of the Centro street scene in Medellin, which was richer than usual due to post-lockdown circumstances. I hoped that this would be an opportune time to take advantage of such circumstances in Santa Fe..[/QUOTE]You list some interesting insights, you like to analyze things like I do.
I do a trip autopsy when I get home, well done!
[QUOTE=YyzTravel;2514640]OK guys, been home for a few days after a 7 days trip. Here is a full trip report for everyone. The flight to Bogota was a breeze, I was able to snag Delta1 seating for sub $500 so it was a no-brainer and an easy flight. Customs was a breeze, just have your check-mig filled out and I was through customs and the luggage pick up spot in under 10 minutes. There are many ATMs in the luggage pick up area, choose which one works for you, and get some cash there if needed. Uber is not allowed at the airport to pick up directly, if you want to use them you have to walk offsite which I highly do not recommend. It was 35 mil for me to take a black car to my hotel in ZonaT. Before a lot of you haters get started on "YYZ overpays for shit". I frankly don't care so save it. The hotel was nice, got a suite there and paid sub-$100 a night which included a full breakfast daily with English-speaking employees. The hotel was guest friendly, but I just made sure not to bring back girls who were clearly prepagos. Anyone I was with I would ask them to dress like a lady and I had zero problems.
I did a mix of clubs, Bumble (which is great for non-pros if you are least semi-attractive), and visited Santa Fe once. I did the Woodman tour and would highly recommend it. Santa Fe is a spot I would never go to down by myself, and it's not that I was afraid there, it's just dirty and disgusting. I did get a nice BBBJ from a young street girl there, but it was so bad I stopped partway through and just left to continue the tour. Woodman knew the area, showed me all the clubs, and helped get snacks, etc. Some guys are saying that "why do you need to pay Woodman?" - It's because it's his job. And he was worth every penny of the cost. He showed me the clubs, helped me negotiate show costs, and made sure the meseros didn't rip me off for a first-time visitor there. In short, we spend about 4 hours together and it was really nice to see, but outside of just partying a bit that was all for the night. Woodman is cool as hell, and just chilling with the guy was fun in itself. Thank you, Woodman!
I visited numerous casas, massage parlors and, 3 main clubs up near ZonaT. Olympia, CasaNova, and Lido. Some nights were amazing with 40+ girl lineups, other nights when some board members came it was not so great, and apologies guys but it really was better the nights before. Hung out with MSanchez a few times, and that guy is cool as hell. When you enter the club all the girls line up and stand there until you pick one. I'm picky, and even if I know who I want I will make them wait. Both nights I ended up with girls who I ended up bringing back to my hotel, and then am still talking to even as of this morning on Whats App. Be warned, each time you order a drink you should pay in advance. Both of my girls confirmed that the meseros will intentionally take the menu and then try to rip you off for the check. Keep the menu, and each time you order a drink or bottle you pay upfront in cash. Otherwise, at the end they want to tack some crazy "service" fee on there. Unfortunately, both Msanchez and I got ripped off at Casanova for probably 100 Mil each, but my second girl actually ended up so upset about this she gave it back to me out of her pocket when I told her. (I didn't take it, but she just didn't like me getting mistreated). That's the same night she told me "leche en todo papicito", which for my fairly decent Spanish means "cum inside me daddy". Almost blew a hole in that girls back I came so hard with the grinding thing she did.
I'm not sure what most of you guys want, but for me, it's not always about fucking, but it's the thrill of the hunt. Columbian girls are passionate if you find the right ones, and I will be damned if not one but both of the girls I was talking to on the second night ended up turning down money from me one of them going to BBFS and her telling me she developed feelings for me. My goal for these trips is to enjoy my time, spend 50% of the time with just quick girls in casas or parlors, and the other 50% my aim is to vet and find a few long term girls to visit in the future, or even import to me on trips. I like dating and girlfriends. Cost-wise, the average massage parlor was 150-200 k for an hour, and most club girls wanted 300 k-500 k for TLN. I spent about 800 - 1.2 M daily between high-end food, dating, shopping, and sex sometimes 3-4 times daily. Again, for those you who say "you overpaid". I don't care. I'm not rich , but I don't do 2-3 month trips like you guys, so my time there is more valuable than getting the best deal every possible time. Also, ProTip here: Lecethin. This stuff really increases cum volume. Grab a bottle on Amazon and bring it with you. I took about 8-12 a day (they are giant pills) - but really do increase the volume which makes having sex 3-4 daily for a week possible and far more enjoyable. Also, don't go with that off-market Viagra or Cialis. GoodRX you can get 30 100 MG Viagra a month for about $24 USD. I break them in 1/2 and can literally fuck, cum, and fuck again while staying hard with those things. I don't need them, I just want them so I can turn a session into a solid 30+ min of intercourse with these.
Leaving Bogota was easy. Called an Uber and was there in about 30 minutes around 7:00 am. The airport was fast customs wise, just the check-mig form again, the usual customs declarations when checking my bag and then to the gate. I got there too early, so I suggest 2 hours before a flight, not 3. Not a lot is open there early, so did a ton of just sitting at the gate before boarding the plane. I was back asleep before we even took off and just woke up for the meal service and then back to bed after a super long night the night before. I'm heading back to MDE in January for 15 days, and sure enough one of the Bogota girls I'm now going to bring with me as a wing-woman. Will buy her ticket and food, but otherwise not paying her otherwise. Before the player haters come out and tell me I'm bringing sand to the beach, she knows the drill and is going to help me crush a lot of pussy with hopefully some really passionate threesomes as she is into girls too and really wants me as her Papi Chulo which I would be totally fine with. If anyone is in MDE from 1/19 - 1/30 let me know. Let's get out and first bottle in the club is on me.[/QUOTE]Whatever floats your boat, as some else said, as long as it doesn't impact the overall price range!
[QUOTE=TiaVoyage25;2514454]Gentlemen,
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3.) Will I need to show a return trip ticket when I go through customs / immigrations upon arrival? Research tells me that this is sometimes the case, but looking to get the latest from recent travelers. I haven't had to show a return trip before but you never know with the current COVID situation.
TIA.[/QUOTE]The return ticket is only needed when you leave to start your trip.
[QUOTE=YyzTravel;2514640]....I did get a nice BBBJ from a young street girl there, but it was so bad I stopped partway through and just left to continue the tour....[/QUOTE]Good report but I didn't quite get this part. You said the BBBJ was nice so why did you stop part way?
[QUOTE=GringoItaliano;2514643]Here are the photos from my December 2020 trip.[/QUOTE]Girl on the top right think her name in Natasha gives an amazing deep throat blowjob BBBJ available as well. Seen her twice this trip usually hangs out at the blue and white spot where you take your first left in Santa Fe going give her a try.
[QUOTE=YyzTravel;2514640]OK guys, been home for a few days after a 7 days trip. Here is a full trip report for everyone. The flight to Bogota was a breeze, I was able to snag Delta1 seating for sub $500 so it was a no-brainer and an easy flight. Customs was a breeze, just have your check-mig filled out and I was through customs and the luggage pick up spot in under 10 minutes. There are many ATMs in the luggage pick up area, choose which one works for you, and get some cash there if needed. Uber is not allowed at the airport to pick up directly, if you want to use them you have to walk offsite which I highly do not recommend. It was 35 mil for me to take a black car to my hotel in ZonaT. Before a lot of you haters get started on "YYZ overpays for shit". I frankly don't care so save it. The hotel was nice, got a suite there and paid sub-$100 a night which included a full breakfast daily with English-speaking employees. The hotel was guest friendly, but I just made sure not to bring back girls who were clearly prepagos. Anyone I was with I would ask them to dress like a lady and I had zero problems.
I did a mix of clubs, Bumble (which is great for non-pros if you are least semi-attractive), and visited Santa Fe once. I did the Woodman tour and would highly recommend it. Santa Fe is a spot I would never go to down by myself, and it's not that I was afraid there, it's just dirty and disgusting. I did get a nice BBBJ from a young street girl there, but it was so bad I stopped partway through and just left to continue the tour. Woodman knew the area, showed me all the clubs, and helped get snacks, etc. Some guys are saying that "why do you need to pay Woodman?" - It's because it's his job. And he was worth every penny of the cost. He showed me the clubs, helped me negotiate show costs, and made sure the meseros didn't rip me off for a first-time visitor there. In short, we spend about 4 hours together and it was really nice to see, but outside of just partying a bit that was all for the night. Woodman is cool as hell, and just chilling with the guy was fun in itself. Thank you, Woodman!
I visited numerous casas, massage parlors and, 3 main clubs up near ZonaT. Olympia, CasaNova, and Lido. Some nights were amazing with 40+ girl lineups, other nights when some board members came it was not so great, and apologies guys but it really was better the nights before. Hung out with MSanchez a few times, and that guy is cool as hell. When you enter the club all the girls line up and stand there until you pick one. I'm picky, and even if I know who I want I will make them wait. Both nights I ended up with girls who I ended up bringing back to my hotel, and then am still talking to even as of this morning on Whats App. Be warned, each time you order a drink you should pay in advance. Both of my girls confirmed that the meseros will intentionally take the menu and then try to rip you off for the check. Keep the menu, and each time you order a drink or bottle you pay upfront in cash. Otherwise, at the end they want to tack some crazy "service" fee on there. Unfortunately, both Msanchez and I got ripped off at Casanova for probably 100 Mil each, but my second girl actually ended up so upset about this she gave it back to me out of her pocket when I told her. (I didn't take it, but she just didn't like me getting mistreated). That's the same night she told me "leche en todo papicito", which for my fairly decent Spanish means "cum inside me daddy". Almost blew a hole in that girls back I came so hard with the grinding thing she did.
I'm not sure what most of you guys want, but for me, it's not always about fucking, but it's the thrill of the hunt. Columbian girls are passionate if you find the right ones, and I will be damned if not one but both of the girls I was talking to on the second night ended up turning down money from me one of them going to BBFS and her telling me she developed feelings for me. My goal for these trips is to enjoy my time, spend 50% of the time with just quick girls in casas or parlors, and the other 50% my aim is to vet and find a few long term girls to visit in the future, or even import to me on trips. I like dating and girlfriends. Cost-wise, the average massage parlor was 150-200 k for an hour, and most club girls wanted 300 k-500 k for TLN. I spent about 800 - 1.2 M daily between high-end food, dating, shopping, and sex sometimes 3-4 times daily. Again, for those you who say "you overpaid". I don't care. I'm not rich , but I don't do 2-3 month trips like you guys, so my time there is more valuable than getting the best deal every possible time. Also, ProTip here: Lecethin. This stuff really increases cum volume. Grab a bottle on Amazon and bring it with you. I took about 8-12 a day (they are giant pills) - but really do increase the volume which makes having sex 3-4 daily for a week possible and far more enjoyable. Also, don't go with that off-market Viagra or Cialis. GoodRX you can get 30 100 MG Viagra a month for about $24 USD. I break them in 1/2 and can literally fuck, cum, and fuck again while staying hard with those things. I don't need them, I just want them so I can turn a session into a solid 30+ min of intercourse with these.
Leaving Bogota was easy. Called an Uber and was there in about 30 minutes around 7:00 am. The airport was fast customs wise, just the check-mig form again, the usual customs declarations when checking my bag and then to the gate. I got there too early, so I suggest 2 hours before a flight, not 3. Not a lot is open there early, so did a ton of just sitting at the gate before boarding the plane. I was back asleep before we even took off and just woke up for the meal service and then back to bed after a super long night the night before. I'm heading back to MDE in January for 15 days, and sure enough one of the Bogota girls I'm now going to bring with me as a wing-woman. Will buy her ticket and food, but otherwise not paying her otherwise. Before the player haters come out and tell me I'm bringing sand to the beach, she knows the drill and is going to help me crush a lot of pussy with hopefully some really passionate threesomes as she is into girls too and really wants me as her Papi Chulo which I would be totally fine with. If anyone is in MDE from 1/19 - 1/30 let me know. Let's get out and first bottle in the club is on me.[/QUOTE]Great report. Sounds like you had a blast. 500 k for tln at those high end places is a good price. The takeout fee is pretty high at Lidos the last time I was there. Is it still around 150 mil?
Here is the business card with directions to the Hotel Plus Plaza near centro, it was discussed a few days back and I just found the card from my visit and stay last week.
I don't necessarily recommend this hotel but it just may serve your needs should you have a chica with no ID as they are very lax. I recall the cost is 23 mil for 3 hours. They do have a small garage to park your car below on the ground level, no extra cost. Do not attempt to walk here from centro as it is a shit area, always take taxi or drive your car.
And the 4 hours I spent in the Jacuzzi room with my thin young skinny paisa doing all kinds of nasty stuff was fun but still recovering now over a week later, and even though it is a Jacuzzi they don't have hot water so you need some party favors to feel no pain getting into a tub filled with cold water at 3 AM with your chica and trying to get your dick up in freezing cold hehehehe.
These are what memories are made of. Merry Christmas to all!
The Tall Man.
[QUOTE=YyzTravel;2514640]OK guys.[/QUOTE]You say Wood is "cool as hell" but you say this about SF "it's just dirty and disgusting".
If you weren't so clueless? Or maybe you were aware of it being so disrespectful to him?
That is his workspace, that is where he gives tours and makes money, I'm guessing he doesn't need "mongers".
Like you even if you say he's "cool as hell".
Kind of like going to a restaurant and saying the chef is a "cool as hell" guy.
But his food is disgusting.
Your report reads like the writing of a 15 yr old girl.
I just tried finding this place on Google Maps. Says its in Medellin. I'm definitely not walking there from Centro in Bogota.
[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2514927]Here is the business card with directions to the Hotel Plus Plaza near centro, it was discussed a few days back and I just found the card from my visit and stay last week.
I don't necessarily recommend this hotel but it just may serve your needs should you have a chica with no ID as they are very lax. I recall the cost is 23 mil for 3 hours. They do have a small garage to park your car below on the ground level, no extra cost. Do not attempt to walk here from centro as it is a shit area, always take taxi or drive your car.
And the 4 hours I spent in the Jacuzzi room with my thin young skinny paisa doing all kinds of nasty stuff was fun but still recovering now over a week later, and even though it is a Jacuzzi they don't have hot water so you need some party favors to feel no pain getting into a tub filled with cold water at 3 AM with your chica and trying to get your dick up in freezing cold hehehehe.
These are what memories are made of. Merry Christmas to all!
The Tall Man.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2514304]Good deal for a 9, if you ask me. Less than $100. If it is a normal 3-4 hrs date.
Could you please share your experience with SA in Bogota?[/QUOTE]The problem is that gringos come to town and they pay 9 prices for 6's. I think this is a common problem. I also see it in Asia frequently, where foreigners will be hanging out with these butt ugly girls whom they swear are 9's. In a way, I'm actually really happy for the girls, theres no way they could be earning that money from anyone local, even rich locals. I think anyone new to a country needs a bit of time to really get a sense for what the country has to offer in terms of women. Even myself, when I look back at the girls I was willing to sleep with when I first started mongering in asia, or even Colombia for that matter, I am a bit embarassed, but I had a good time. So party on.
To your comment, indeed a 3-4 hour date with a real 9 is a good deal for $100. I will repeat again, there are no 9's or 10's in Santa Fe.
I saw photos of some of the girls that YYZ was hooking up with, he had some decent looking ones in there. I'd say low 9's high 8's. To each their own though.
I was walking back around 15 and 22 after finishing up with a girl. I had put my mask in my pocket when I was with the girl. After I got out I bought a smoke and thought I'll put my mask on after I finished it. Unfortunately I waked into an ID check by the cops for a bunch of Venezuelanos. One of the cops stopped me for not wearing a mask. First he asked me for document. I wasnt carrying a copy of my passport either. Luckily I had a passport picture in my phone. I showed it to him and he was ok with that. I aslo pulled out my mask from my pocket an put it on showing him I had a mask. However he kept saying I was supposed to wear it all the time. If I need smoke she shows me I should pull down the mask but it should always be on my face. Then he takes his phone out and types out 300$ is the fine. I was confused. I asked him is it 30 mil pesos. He say no and types in 900 K pesos in his phone. I told him I don't have that kind of money on me and I can give him 50 k. Then this goes on and he keeps dropping his price and wouldn't go below 200 K. I told him all I have is 100 k and I showed it to him and rest of the change I told him I need for my taxi. He asked me to put the money in my jacket pocket as he won't take it from my hand. He then asked me to turn around to make it look like he was patting me down and took the 100 k from my pocket and let me go, again showing me in action to always wear the mask.
I have been wandering around SF for a week or so on my own (after taking the woodman tour on my first night) and this is the first significant event that happened to me other than the few usual grabbing your hands by aggressive chicas at night. I guess more cops are out there today for the Christmas curfew. I don't know the exact form of curfew. I think no alcohol sales is what it is other than shops closing at 10 pm. Not sure what time bars will close and how they will be open without serving alcohol. I went to Oxxo around 5 pm and the liquor section was sealed off.
My advice is if you see the cops (green fluorescent jackets) just cross the street and walk on the other side.
[QUOTE=Kazeu;2514983]. Even myself, when I look back at the girls I was willing to sleep with when I first started mongering in asia, or even Colombia for that matter, I am a bit embarassed, but I had a good time. So party on..[/QUOTE]I was in Asia in 2019 for 27 weeks and probably did at least 200 putas.
One day I was flipping thru my phone just reminiscing with the photos and ran across one that almost sent me into cardiac arrest.
I was shocked, how did she get in my bed? I don't drink or get high, WTF? I was ashamed to admit yes I paid for that, I got many.
Much hotter for free, but I paid for this one, por que? Jajaaaaaaaaaa.
Thankfully I can't remember anything about her, or our "session" even seeing her photo I still don't remember her.
[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2514943]You say Wood is "cool as hell" but you say this about SF "it's just dirty and disgusting".
If you weren't so clueless? Or maybe you were aware of it being so disrespectful to him?
That is his workspace, that is where he gives tours and makes money, I'm guessing he doesn't need "mongers".
Like you even if you say he's "cool as hell".
Kind of like going to a restaurant and saying the chef is a "cool as hell" guy.
But his food is disgusting.
Your report reads like the writing of a 15 yr old girl.[/QUOTE]LOL chill out dude. Taking things personally on behalf of someone else LOL. Is anyone, Woodman included, going to say that Sante Fe is a nice place? Or that it isn't dirty? What does him earning money giving tours in the place have to do with whether someone thinks its grimy? For many the grime and feeling of being on the far side of the law is part of the allure.
A better analogy would be to go to a restaurant and say the Chef's food is great but he's in a shitty neighborhood. Both things can be true without contradiction.
[QUOTE=GringoItaliano;2514642]I have now spent enough time in Santa Fe to see patterns in the geographic distribution of the street girls and figure out what works best for me. I have usually gotten my best results with girls on the side of the street across from the rear entrance of La Piscina, which I have come to call "Silicone Alley. " To the south there is a higher concentration of young skinny girls whose cedulas you should check before you partake, as well as some black girls from Cali. To the west, along the street with the rear entrances to Troya and Paisas, the talent and the service is mixed.
The biggest and most significant shift seems to have been in both the numbers and the quality of the girls working the street, relative to the clubs. [/QUOTE]Did you miss the party? It seems you are only talking about that one block that La Piscina, Kalifornia, and Troya surround. If you keep walking a few blocks past La Piscina, there are tons more chicks. You stepped into the foyer and spoke as if you had seen the entire house.
[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2514927]Here is the business card with directions to the Hotel Plus Plaza near centro, it was discussed a few days back and I just found the card from my visit and stay last week.
I don't necessarily recommend this hotel but it just may serve your needs should you have a chica with no ID as they are very lax. I recall the cost is 23 mil for 3 hours. They do have a small garage to park your car below on the ground level, no extra cost. Do not attempt to walk here from centro as it is a shit area, always take taxi or drive your car.
And the 4 hours I spent in the Jacuzzi room with my thin young skinny paisa doing all kinds of nasty stuff was fun but still recovering now over a week later, and even though it is a Jacuzzi they don't have hot water so you need some party favors to feel no pain getting into a tub filled with cold water at 3 AM with your chica and trying to get your dick up in freezing cold hehehehe.
These are what memories are made of. Merry Christmas to all!
The Tall Man.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Kazeu;2514980]I just tried finding this place on Google Maps. Says its in Medellin. I'm definitely not walking there from Centro in Bogota.[/QUOTE]Sorry wrong city. Yes this should have been posted in Medellin section.
Either I need new glasses or I drank too much rum last night at my buddies finca.
The Tall Man.
Well since everyone else has done their reporting, I might as well do mine. (If I can remember the details.) Me and my dad came into Bogota from Barranquilla on the 4th. Uber was at surge pricing: 28K downtown to San Francisco Hotel, and I had to wait for it to drop that low! Chilled out and relaxed a couple of hours waiting to hear from Kazeu. I finally hit him up and told him that we were about to head to Santa Fe. On the walk down I stopped at my chicken spot and got 2 pieces and arepas for 5K. Another 2 blocks and I was in Santa Fe standing on the corner eating my chicken out of the bag. When I finished we walked around to check out the scene. Touts kept trying to get us to come into the clubs but I told them I was waiting on my boy. Miguel at Troya made me promise to remember his name and ask for him when we came in, which I did end up doing.
Kazeu finally hit me up and said that he was in front of Kalifornia where the young Vennies hang out. We were right around the corner and headed up to meet him. The first stop was Troya. Not many people inside but I did see a chick that I liked. I ordered 2 Cokes for me and my dad and started trying to get acquainted with the chick. Miguel brought the drinks then Kazeu said man let's get the hell out of here. There are not many chicks here. I asked the guy how much the drinks were and he said 20K. WTF! I said yeah you are right. We better get the hell out of here. Kazeu said that was the new Covid price. Luckily the guy had not opened the drinks.
We went over to Atonis and chilled out. We ordered half bottle of Ron Medellin for 80K. I was debating which chick I wanted to choose. Then the chick I was talking to at Troya walked in. She came and sat down while I was sipping on my tasty beverage. I asked how old she was and she said 30. I said there is no fucking way. Your hands look 40. She said she was actually 29 but turning 30 at the end of the month. She pointed to her friend on the other side of the stage and asked if I wanted her to get her friend for my dad. It was a White chick with a bunch of tattoos. I said hell nawl. That broad looks drugged out. Don't be trying to give my dad your junkie friend. She started laughing.
I asked her how much she wanted to fuck and she said 70. I said no way then she dropped to 60. That sounded more like it. I told her to give me her number so I could hit her up later. She said that she lost her phone the other day when she was drunk. She sat it down somewhere then it disappeared. She told me she had to run do something and would come back soon.
Kazeu had run off somewhere and my dad was trying to decide on a chick. He had it narrowed down to 2. I said shit, take both of them. So I made him a deal for 50K for each girl and the room was 16K. I gave him 120K and off they went upstairs.
I was either trying to make a video or take some pictures inside the club on the sly and got busted by the waiter. Then I called a Vennie chick over and she was saying how she wanted 70K. I told her that was too damn much. She said minimum 55K. I told her that I would give her 60K if I could skeet in her mouth. She said sure. No debate or any talk of up charges. Don't know why this is so hard for some guys.
So I was just sitting and rubbing on the girl waiting for one of the guys to come back to the table because we still had liquor. Then one of the chicks my dad was with came running up to the table talking about he wanted more time. I was like shit you have only been gone 5 minutes. What does the 50K get. She said it was for 15 minutes. So I fork over another 120K and she runs back upstairs. Soon she was back at the table saying that he wanted me to come upstairs. I told her that I was not coming up there. My dad came back and said he did not have enough time to finish. I told him this was not a holiday resort. You have to get your business done in the allotted time. So 240K for 30 minutes down the drain. My dad just turned 70 by the way.
Kazeu said he was about to leave and I was about to take my girl upstairs. She told me I needed to pay 6K for the room. WTF? Why was my dad's room 16K then? Who cares. Got to the top of the stairs and the lady that assigns the room asked me for a tip. She was cute to me. I told her if she wanted a tip, she had to come get some of this dick. Me and old girl went off to the room for some fun. I kept a close eye on the clock. Got a little BBBJ then it was time for some old fashioned fucking. I anticipated the knock coming soon so I snatched off the rubber and told her to open her mouth wide. Awww skeet skeet got damn! To the last drop. But she disrespected me by going to the bathroom and spitting it out.
On my way back down I asked the room lady when she would be ready for that tip. When I went back down my dad was at the table with another chick. He told me to ask how much it would cost to take her with him. I said man we got some more places to hit and more chicks to check out. He said a man knows what he wants. I asked for how much time. He said unlimited time. So I made a deal with the chick 200,000 until 4 am. It was 8 pm then. We started walking out and the waiter chased me down for a tip. I gave him 5K and he was happy. I would have given him more had he not thwarted my picture taking efforts.
As we passed one of the casas I saw a chick and said hey I saw you in Atonis a few minutes ago. She was sexy too. We keep telling you the same chicks move around to different places. I only had 10K left I my pocket so I used it to get beverages for them on the way back to the hotel. I asked for the chick's ID so I could give it to the hotel lady. When we got to the desk I dropped the ID and told the lady my dad's room number. Then I ran up to get my ATM card to go grab some money. When I came back down they were still at the desk. The lady was saying something about paying extra money. She thought me and my dad were in the same room, so the girl would make the third guest. I explained to her that we each have our own room and they were booked for 2 people each. That is when I asked the policy. Just like other places you get to bring in one person. Any other people after that and you have to pay a joiner fee for them. Like 40K, which is half of the room price. I left to go to the ATM at the Colpatria building (didn't that used to be the BanColombia building?) and went back to drop the 200K for the girl off to my dad and told him to hide it until it was time for her to go.
I ran back down to Santa Fe; this time with a pocket full of money. First task was to get my hair cut. It was around 9 pm then. When I finished that and started walking around, things appeared to be dying down around 10. Oh fucking well. Know when to say when. I walked back to the hotel and ordered some food. Just as I walked in my room my dad called me asking about some taxi for the chick. I told him she is supposed to stay until 4. He said he was finished with her though. I said man you told me unlimited time so that is what I bargained for. If I had known you were only keeping her 2 or 3 hours then I would have bargained for less. I told him that she needs to be responsible for how she gets to where she is going next.
I had entirely too much food so I called my dad to see if he wanted the rest. He didn't so I told him to ask his girl. She did, so I brought it over for her. She answered the door ass nekkit. I think she ended up staying until 6 am. The week after, me, my dad and my middle brother were together. My dad started talking about Google translate. I said what do you know about Google translate. He said the girl had put it on his phone and that is how they were communicating in his room. He said my brother had just went in the other day and deleted the stuff in case my stepmom saw it.
*Santa Fe photos courtesy of Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra.
[QUOTE=Kman1;2515001]I was walking back around 15 and 22 after finishing up with a girl. I had put my mask in my pocket when I was with the girl. After I got out I bought a smoke and thought I'll put my mask on after I finished it. Unfortunately I waked into an ID check by the cops for a bunch of Venezuelanos. One of the cops stopped me for not wearing a mask. First he asked me for document. I wasnt carrying a copy of my passport either. Luckily I had a passport picture in my phone. I showed it to him and he was ok with that. I aslo pulled out my mask from my pocket an put it on showing him I had a mask. However he kept saying I was supposed to wear it all the time. If I need smoke she shows me I should pull down the mask but it should always be on my face. Then he takes his phone out and types out 300$ is the fine. I was confused. I asked him is it 30 mil pesos. He say no and types in 900 K pesos in his phone. I told him I don't have that kind of money on me and I can give him 50 k. Then this goes on and he keeps dropping his price and wouldn't go below 200 K. I told him all I have is 100 k and I showed it to him and rest of the change I told him I need for my taxi. He asked me to put the money in my jacket pocket as he won't take it from my hand. He then asked me to turn around to make it look like he was patting me down and took the 100 k from my pocket and let me go, again showing me in action to always wear the mask.
I have been wandering around SF for a week or so on my own (after taking the woodman tour on my first night) and this is the first significant event that happened to me other than the few usual grabbing your hands by aggressive chicas at night. I guess more cops are out there today for the Christmas curfew. I don't know the exact form of curfew. I think no alcohol sales is what it is other than shops closing at 10 pm. Not sure what time bars will close and how they will be open without serving alcohol. I went to Oxxo around 5 pm and the liquor section was sealed off.
My advice is if you see the cops (green fluorescent jackets) just cross the street and walk on the other side.[/QUOTE]It may be the first time you become a victim of the corruption in Latin America but it won't be the last. An old wing man of mine was famous for how to handle a crooked cop. He was say, I don't have any money so take me to the police station and I'll take care of this there. They never did.
[QUOTE=LatinaLover#1;2515156]It may be the first time you become a victim of the corruption in Latin America but it won't be the last. An old wing man of mine was famous for how to handle a crooked cop. He was say, I don't have any money so take me to the police station and I'll take care of this there. They never did.[/QUOTE]You make yourself a victim. I have been asked in Dominican Republic about 20 times but never any other country. I have never given in. I have asked for the embassy and asked to be handed the citation, but I would never ask to be taken anywhere, especially to a police station.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2515035]Finally my report...[/QUOTE]Thanks for the report and excellent spinner! Now I understand what makes this city so great.
Cheers.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2515035]Well since everyone else has done their reporting, I might as well do mine. (If I can remember the details.) Me and my dad came into Bogota from Barranquilla on the 4th. Uber was at surge pricing: 28K downtown to San Francisco Hotel, and I had to wait for it to drop that low! Chilled out and relaxed a couple of hours waiting to hear from Kazeu. I finally hit him up and told him that we were about to head to Santa Fe. On the walk down I stopped at my chicken spot and got 2 pieces and arepas for 5K. Another 2 blocks and I was in Santa Fe standing on the corner eating my chicken out of the bag. When I finished we walked around to check out the scene. Touts kept trying to get us to come into the clubs but I told them I was waiting on my boy. Miguel at Troya made me promise to remember his name and ask for him when we came in, which I did end up doing.
Kazeu finally hit me up and said that he was in front of Kalifornia where the young Vennies hang out. We were right around the corner and headed up to meet him. The first stop was Troya. Not many people inside but I did see a chick that I liked. I ordered 2 Cokes for me and my dad and started trying to get acquainted with the chick. Miguel brought the drinks then Kazeu said man let's get the hell out of here. There are not many chicks here. I asked the guy how much the drinks were and he said 20K. WTF! I said yeah you are right. We better get the hell out of here. Kazeu said that was the new Covid price. Luckily the guy had not opened the drinks.
We went over to Atonis and chilled out. We ordered half bottle of Ron Medellin for 80K. I was debating which chick I wanted to choose. Then the chick I was talking to at Troya walked in. She came and sat down while I was sipping on my tasty beverage. I asked how old she was and she said 30. I said there is no fucking way. Your hands look 40. She said she was actually 29 but turning 30 at the end of the month. She pointed to her friend on the other side of the stage and asked if I wanted her to get her friend for my dad. It was a White chick with a bunch of tattoos. I said hell nawl. That broad looks drugged out. Don't be trying to give my dad your junkie friend. She started laughing.
I asked her how much she wanted to fuck and she said 70. I said no way then she dropped to 60. That sounded more like it. I told her to give me her number so I could hit her up later. She said that she lost her phone the other day when she was drunk. She sat it down somewhere then it disappeared. She told me she had to run do something and would come back soon.
Kazeu had run off somewhere and my dad was trying to decide on a chick. He had it narrowed down to 2. I said shit, take both of them. So I made him a deal for 50K for each girl and the room was 16K. I gave him 120K and off they went upstairs.
I was either trying to make a video or take some pictures inside the club on the sly and got busted by the waiter. Then I called a Vennie chick over and she was saying how she wanted 70K. I told her that was too damn much. She said minimum 55K. I told her that I would give her 60K if I could skeet in her mouth. She said sure. No debate or any talk of up charges. Don't know why this is so hard for some guys.
So I was just sitting and rubbing on the girl waiting for one of the guys to come back to the table because we still had liquor. Then one of the chicks my dad was with came running up to the table talking about he wanted more time. I was like shit you have only been gone 5 minutes. What does the 50K get. She said it was for 15 minutes. So I fork over another 120K and she runs back upstairs. Soon she was back at the table saying that he wanted me to come upstairs. I told her that I was not coming up there. My dad came back and said he did not have enough time to finish. I told him this was not a holiday resort. You have to get your business done in the allotted time. So 240K for 30 minutes down the drain. My dad just turned 70 by the way.
Kazeu said he was about to leave and I was about to take my girl upstairs. She told me I needed to pay 6K for the room. WTF? Why was my dad's room 16K then? Who cares. Got to the top of the stairs and the lady that assigns the room asked me for a tip. She was cute to me. I told her if she wanted a tip, she had to come get some of this dick. Me and old girl went off to the room for some fun. I kept a close eye on the clock. Got a little BBBJ then it was time for some old fashioned fucking. I anticipated the knock coming soon so I snatched off the rubber and told her to open her mouth wide. Awww skeet skeet got damn! To the last drop. But she disrespected me by going to the bathroom and spitting it out.
On my way back down I asked the room lady when she would be ready for that tip. When I went back down my dad was at the table with another chick. He told me to ask how much it would cost to take her with him. I said man we got some more places to hit and more chicks to check out. He said a man knows what he wants. I asked for how much time. He said unlimited time. So I made a deal with the chick 200,000 until 4 am. It was 8 pm then. We started walking out and the waiter chased me down for a tip. I gave him 5K and he was happy. I would have given him more had he not thwarted my picture taking efforts.
As we passed one of the casas I saw a chick and said hey I saw you in Atonis a few minutes ago. She was sexy too. We keep telling you the same chicks move around to different places. I only had 10K left I my pocket so I used it to get beverages for them on the way back to the hotel. I asked for the chick's ID so I could give it to the hotel lady. When we got to the desk I dropped the ID and told the lady my dad's room number. Then I ran up to get my ATM card to go grab some money. When I came back down they were still at the desk. The lady was saying something about paying extra money. She thought me and my dad were in the same room, so the girl would make the third guest. I explained to her that we each have our own room and they were booked for 2 people each. That is when I asked the policy. Just like other places you get to bring in one person. Any other people after that and you have to pay a joiner fee for them. Like 40K, which is half of the room price. I left to go to the ATM at the Colpatria building (didn't that used to be the BanColombia building?) and went back to drop the 200K for the girl off to my dad and told him to hide it until it was time for her to go..[/QUOTE]A fun read on this Christmas Day!
The apple does not fall far from the tree, hehehehehe looks like both you and the pop had a fun time.
Merry Christmas to all!
The Tall Man.
[QUOTE=LatinaLover#1;2515156]It may be the first time you become a victim of the corruption in Latin America but it won't be the last. An old wing man of mine was famous for how to handle a crooked cop. He was say, I don't have any money so take me to the police station and I'll take care of this there. They never did.[/QUOTE]That policy would work almost always. Problem is if you catch a cop who really doesn't like you and he does take you to the station.
I remember a time in Managua when I was stopped for not wearing a seat belt. After he said he was writing me a ticket I gave him $5 dollars worth of Cordobas and he let me go. I think the point I am trying to make is not only avoid going to the belly of the beast but if you did do something wrong than pay the piper.
[QUOTE=JohnGault;2515197]That policy would work almost always. Problem is if you catch a cop who really doesn't like you and he does take you to the station.
I remember a time in Managua when I was stopped for not wearing a seat belt. After he said he was writing me a ticket I gave him $5 dollars worth of Cordobas and he let me go. I think the point I am trying to make is not only avoid going to the belly of the beast but if you did do something wrong than pay the piper.[/QUOTE]For 5 dollars yea pay the few bucks and move on but this cop wanted 300,000 a little different situation. This is outright abuse of a tourist.
[QUOTE=LatinaLover#1;2515257]For 5 dollars yea pay the few bucks and move on but this cop wanted 300,000 a little different situation. This is outright abuse of a tourist.[/QUOTE]He wanted 300 $, which is 900,000 pesos to be precise. Its surprising he had the nerve to ask such an amount as a fine for not wearing a mask. They assume American tourists are loaded.
If it happened to me again I would probably do the same thing. His objective is to extort money from you, so he is not going to listen to any justification. Try to negotiate and pay as little and get out of there. I don't see a point in complicating things by trying to do right in an area like SF and when you don't speak the language so well.
[QUOTE=Kman1;2515272]He wanted 300 $, which is 900,000 pesos to be precise. Its surprising he had the nerve to ask such an amount as a fine for not wearing a mask. They assume American tourists are loaded.
If it happened to me again I would probably do the same thing. His objective is to extort money from you, so he is not going to listen to any justification. Try to negotiate and pay as little and get out of there. I don't see a point in complicating things by trying to do right in an area like SF and when you don't speak the language so well.[/QUOTE]Okay. I have this thing figured out now. I don't think he wanted $300. I think he was just rounding off and WARNING you that the fine is $300 since the fine actually is 936,320 pesos ($266). You could have said okay gracias and walked off. But instead YOU OFFERED money! LOL. At least you were not the guy saying take me to the police station! That would have really confused him. You got me over here dying man. And y'all are up here trying to give the cops a bad name when he was just trying to look out for you.
[QUOTE=Kman1;2515001]Then he takes his phone out and types out 300$ is the fine. I was confused. I asked him is it 30 mil pesos. He say no and types in 900 K pesos in his phone. I told him I don't have that kind of money on me and I can give him 50 k.[/QUOTE]
"Los infractores que desacaten las medidas sanitarias en poca de cuarentena pueden ser multados hasta con [b]$936.320 pesos[/b], castigo al que se exponen los ciudadanos que no usen tapabocas o lo utilicen de manera inapropiada, no respeten la distancia mnima entre personas, no acaten las normas en establecimientos o realicen actividades no permitidas durante esta poca de cuarentena. "
[url]https://colombia.as.com/colombia/2020/09/10/actualidad/1599764780_200884.html[/url]
I've finally taken the dive and paid for a SA membership. I have to say its quite interesting. Out of hundreds of profiles, by pictures alone, I've found 7 profiles that I would categorize in the 9+ range. There are quite a few high 8's, but there are also many just plain ordinary looking girls. I wonder how much they expect to make.
The most supsisinig thing however is the number of female profiles that are actually premium. Do these women actually pay 90 usd per month? It doesn't make sense to me, why would any woman pay that? 99 percent of the time guys are going to message first. I don't get iit. Because of this puzzle, I always find myself wary of any women with premium profiles. Anyone got an answer for this?
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2515035]Well since everyone else has done their reporting, I might as well do mine. (If I can remember the details.) Me and my dad came into Bogota from Barranquilla on the 4th. Uber was at surge pricing: 28K downtown to San Francisco Hotel, and I had to wait for it to drop that low! Chilled out and relaxed a couple of hours waiting to hear from Kazeu. I finally hit him up and told him that we were about to head to Santa Fe. On the walk down I stopped at my chicken spot and got 2 pieces and arepas for 5K. Another 2 blocks and I was in Santa Fe standing on the corner eating my chicken out of the bag. When I finished we walked around to check out the scene. Touts kept trying to get us to come into the clubs but I told them I was waiting on my boy. Miguel at Troya made me promise to remember his name and ask for him when we came in, which I did end up doing.
.[/QUOTE]It was a pleasure to finally meet you Mr E. I apologize for not being able to hang out longer. Once my little head takes over its a bit hard for me to think clearly.
As I have mentioned before, I was in Bogota last September 2019. At the time I was staying in Santa Fe, just 1 block away from Atonis. So I was going there quite often, and there was always this 1 chica that mesmerized me with her dancing. She goes by the name of Belisimar. A combination of the way she moved her curvy body with a huge smile showing off her braces that dazzled me every night. I eventually managed to catch her on the street one day and bring her back to my place for a session. Unfortunately reality paled in comparison to the dream, but I still like her smile and say Hi to her all the time.
Fast forward to November 2020. My first visit to Atonis of 2020, this is prior to my night with Mr. E. I was disappointed to learn that they raised the prices of their beers to 10 k and the talented hadn't really improved much since 2019. I even recognized 3 or 4 girls from 2019 that gained a few pounds. For the most part Atonis was a disspointment, until I saw 2 new girls that I had never seen before. And they were both good dancers and had great smiles. That night I took one of the girls (I will call her Girl A) upstairs for an okay session. I forget her name. But in my mind I kept thinking about the other girl whose name I would later learn to be estefania (Seems like every other girl is named estefania here). When I was back down stairs Estefania was always busy giviing dances, so I was never able to get her number.
So that night with mr E. I saw estefania come into Atonis and I jumped at my chance to go talk to her. Sorry E. Thats why I left so abruptly. The interesting thing is I also saw Belisimar, and the Girl A standing with Estefania. I said Hello, to Belisimar and learned that these 3 girls were sisters! Of all the girls in Atonis, I chose the 3 sisters! I wonder if she's got any more sisters.
I ended getting a dance from Estefania and then sessioning with her upstairs. For some reason I couldn't finish, so when I went back downstairs, still horny and looking for something to fill my cravings, I bid Mr. E goodbye and went to the street to look for a oldie but goodie I had sessioned with before.
[QUOTE=Kazeu;2515427]I've finally taken the dive and paid for a SA membership. I have to say its quite interesting. Out of hundreds of profiles, by pictures alone, I've found 7 profiles that I would categorize in the 9+ range. There are quite a few high 8's, but there are also many just plain ordinary looking girls. I wonder how much they expect to make.
The most supsisinig thing however is the number of female profiles that are actually premium. Do these women actually pay 90 usd per month? It doesn't make sense to me, why would any woman pay that? 99 percent of the time guys are going to message first. I don't get iit. Because of this puzzle, I always find myself wary of any women with premium profiles. Anyone got an answer for this?[/QUOTE]They don't need to pay anything to message guys on SA. So it is free for them. Guys have to pay to be able to read / send messages, but you can browse and request photos for free. Those girls who pay premium don't pay the same as guys, it is waaaay cheaper for them. I'm not sure why some of them upgrade to premium, but I know that it gives them some nice features like hiding stuff, for example registration date or last time the were online. I try to avoid premium girls because they are mostly pros.
[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2515450]They don't need to pay anything to message guys on SA. So it is free for them. Guys have to pay to be able to read / send messages, but you can browse and request photos for free. Those girls who pay premium don't pay the same as guys, it is waaaay cheaper for them. I'm not sure why some of them upgrade to premium, but I know that it gives them some nice features like hiding stuff, for example registration date or last time the were online. I try to avoid premium girls because they are mostly pros.[/QUOTE]Thanks! Very informative!
[QUOTE=Kazeu;2515427]The most supsisinig thing however is the number of female profiles that are actually premium. Do these women actually pay 90 usd per month? It doesn't make sense to me, why would any woman pay that? 99 percent of the time guys are going to message first. I don't get iit. Because of this puzzle, I always find myself wary of any women with premium profiles. Anyone got an answer for this?[/QUOTE]I am always wary of it too. But a hooker in Thailand that I used to fuck said she pays for the premium Tinder because somehow she gets to pick out the big fish. Still not sure how that works. But I was giving her $30 for all night. She said she was able to pick businessmen and shit off Tinder who did not have the time to hang out and hunt like tourists and they would give her up to $300 for a couple of hours. So it was obviously worth the investment.
That is one more example of the price discrimination and how you actually can get a girl at place A for cheap and the same girl at place B for way expensive. Not sure why this goes over many guys' heads. Same as a Big Mac costing $2 in Bogota and $6 in London. Does not mean the one you bought in London is any better. You are just subject to London prices when you are in London.
[QUOTE=Kazeu;2515427]I've finally taken the dive and paid for a SA membership. I have to say its quite interesting. Out of hundreds of profiles, by pictures alone, I've found 7 profiles that I would categorize in the 9+ range. There are quite a few high 8's, but there are also many just plain ordinary looking girls. I wonder how much they expect to make.
The most supsisinig thing however is the number of female profiles that are actually premium. Do these women actually pay 90 usd per month? It doesn't make sense to me, why would any woman pay that? 99 percent of the time guys are going to message first. I don't get iit. Because of this puzzle, I always find myself wary of any women with premium profiles. Anyone got an answer for this?[/QUOTE]Seeking, like every "dating" website uses teaser accounts. What happens is when someone signs up but doesn't pay for a membership, they start getting messages from all the super hot girls trying to meet them. But, without paying for a subscription your ability to communicate is extremely limited. So the average punter believes they've stumbled upon hidden treasure, all those hot, young women begging to meet him and he pays for the subscription. Afterwards he never seems to be able to meet with any of those women who were so anxious to meet him before.
Those are probably mostly teaser accounts.
[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2515450]They don't need to pay anything to message guys on SA. So it is free for them. Guys have to pay to be able to read / send messages, but you can browse and request photos for free. Those girls who pay premium don't pay the same as guys, it is waaaay cheaper for them. I'm not sure why some of them upgrade to premium, but I know that it gives them some nice features like hiding stuff, for example registration date or last time the were online. I try to avoid premium girls because they are mostly pros.[/QUOTE]When it was $69, then they raised it to $89. Now they are increasing the price again Jan 1 but I'm not sure to what. Given the amount of bots run by men on the site and the girls, posing as Sugar Babies, when in reality are pic sellers and working dozens of guys at once, I'll pass.
[QUOTE=Kazeu;2515427]The most supsisinig thing however is the number of female profiles that are actually premium. Do these women actually pay 90 usd per month?[/QUOTE]It's about $19 for SB and free to college students.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2515471]Seeking, like every "dating" website uses teaser accounts. What happens is when someone signs up but doesn't pay for a membership, they start getting messages from all the super hot girls trying to meet them. But, without paying for a subscription your ability to communicate is extremely limited. So the average punter believes they've stumbled upon hidden treasure, all those hot, young women begging to meet him and he pays for the subscription. Afterwards he never seems to be able to meet with any of those women who were so anxious to meet him before.
Those are probably mostly teaser accounts.[/QUOTE]I used to think that too. This is actually my 2nd shot at trying SA. But let me tell you, I videochatted with this one 18 year old from Seeking last night. She sent me an incredible video of her tits. My lord.
Not to advertise, but I tri3 d them once in 2019 and the girl they sent was accurate to the pics, price was $100/ hour and her attitude was very good.
The girls name was at that time aurora and she was 10/10, thin body but with flesh in the right places, white, very cute face, 5.6 ft.
Agency phone# +57316xxxx072.
Please remember this was tried in 2019, donno if they became bad.
[QUOTE=Kazeu;2515427]The most supsisinig thing however is the number of female profiles that are actually premium. Do these women actually pay 90 usd per month? It doesn't make sense to me, why would any woman pay that? 99 percent of the time guys are going to message first. I don't get iit. Because of this puzzle, I always find myself wary of any women with premium profiles. Anyone got an answer for this?[/QUOTE][URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SeekingArrangement[/URL]
Sugar baby members who register with their university email address automatically qualify for a Premium Membership status.
Great report!
Someone needs to tell that dumbass girl that swallowing is safer than spitting! LOL!
[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2515178]A fun read on this Christmas Day!
The apple does not fall far from the tree, hehehehehe looks like both you and the pop had a fun time.
Merry Christmas to all!
The Tall Man.[/QUOTE]Hi,
I am new to this forum but will be visiting Colombia In January. Can you help me out with the Woodman tour? I think it would be a good intro for a newbie?
[QUOTE=Oso2019;2515651]Hi,
I am new to this forum but will be visiting Colombia In January. Can you help me out with the Woodman tour? I think it would be a good intro for a newbie?[/QUOTE]Simple just send Woodman a PM. And yes for a newbie I along with many others completely recommend his tour and knowledge as he has lived there for over like 5 years.
The Tall Man.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2515283]Okay. I have this thing figured out now. I don't think he wanted $300. I think he was just rounding off and WARNING you that the fine is $300 since the fine actually is 936,320 pesos ($266). You could have said okay gracias and walked off. But instead YOU OFFERED money! LOL. At least you were not the guy saying take me to the police station! That would have really confused him. You got me over here dying man. And y'all are up here trying to give the cops a bad name when he was just trying to look out for you.
"Los infractores que desacaten las medidas sanitarias en poca de cuarentena pueden ser multados hasta con [b]$936.320 pesos[/b], castigo al que se exponen los ciudadanos que no usen tapabocas o lo utilicen de manera inapropiada, no respeten la distancia mnima entre personas, no acaten las normas en establecimientos o realicen actividades no permitidas durante esta poca de cuarentena. "
[url]https://colombia.as.com/colombia/2020/09/10/actualidad/1599764780_200884.html[/url][/QUOTE]Just to close out on this subject. Thats a good find Mr E. I actually feel better there is some reasoning behind the fine amount he showed me. However I don't think he was just warning me and would have let me go. He had broke away from the other group and was solely focused on me and was impeding my progress. He kept translating on his phone that I had my mas in my pocket and not wearing it like it was a clear violation.
Anyways I am out of there and that's all it matters.
On a lighter note some SF pics for your amusement.
[QUOTE=Kman1;2516126]On a lighter note some SF pics for your amusement.[/QUOTE]Man that shit looks so damn scary.
What's up Guys.
I'm flying into Bogota Friday afternoon; and then Saturday, I'm flying into Pereira. Any suggestions as to a decent Hotel I could stay at? (that's chica friendly) Also, I may stay at the Hotel Dann Carlton if the Mezzanine is still open and next to it.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2516140]Man that shit looks so damn scary.[/QUOTE][URL]https://hoodsite.com/65-year-old-woman-killed-sawed-off-shotgun-bus-robbery-colombia/[/URL]
[QUOTE=DonOmar;2516162]What's up Guys.
I'm flying into Bogota Friday afternoon; and then Saturday, I'm flying into Pereira. Any suggestions as to a decent Hotel I could stay at? (that's chica friendly) Also, I may stay at the Hotel Dann Carlton if the Mezzanine is still open and next to it.[/QUOTE]Yes, Mezzanine is still open as far as I know.
OR stay at Ibis museo or Teqendama suites (Not Hotel Teqendama) -- Both near Santa Fe-.
Four Point Sheraton is chica friendly. But it is way up north.
[QUOTE=DonOmar;2516162]What's up Guys.
I'm flying into Bogota Friday afternoon; and then Saturday, I'm flying into Pereira. Any suggestions as to a decent Hotel I could stay at? (that's chica friendly) Also, I may stay at the Hotel Dann Carlton if the Mezzanine is still open and next to it.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2515789]Simple just send Woodman a PM. And yes for a newbie I along with many others completely recommend his tour and knowledge as he has lived there for over like 5 years.
The Tall Man.[/QUOTE]Yes Woodman is perfect, knows SF better than his hands. He is welcoming, polite, not pushy and very good value for the money he asks for his tours. When I am in Bogota we always meet, have lunch or dinner and of course later in the evening, Santa Fe!
[QUOTE=Kman1;2516126]Just to close out on this subject. Thats a good find Mr E. I actually feel better there is some reasoning behind the fine amount he showed me. However I don't think he was just warning me and would have let me go. He had broke away from the other group and was solely focused on me and was impeding my progress. He kept translating on his phone that I had my mas in my pocket and not wearing it like it was a clear violation.
Anyways I am out of there and that's all it matters.
On a lighter note some SF pics for your amusement.[/QUOTE]These girls really look underage. Better check their cedulas.
[QUOTE=BigButtDetecto;2516525]These girls really look underage. Better check their cedulas.[/QUOTE]Two expressions come to mind:
Old enough to pee. Old enough for me.
And:
If she can bleed she can breed.
Seriously these chicas in the photos are 20 year old plus and correct me if I am wrong but every time I have been in SF the cops are always stopping and checking the ID's of the street girls, si o no?
The Tall Man.
[QUOTE=BigButtDetecto;2516525]These girls really look underage. Better check their cedulas.[/QUOTE]Some girls make themselves more fit than we can imagine.
[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2516714]Two expressions come to mind:
Old enough to pee. Old enough for me.
And:
If she can bleed she can breed.
Seriously these chicas in the photos are 20 year old plus and correct me if I am wrong but every time I have been in SF the cops are always stopping and checking the ID's of the street girls, si o no?
The Tall Man.[/QUOTE]All the girls in the main Santa Fe areas Must show valid ID and be 18+ to use the hotels-.
Areas away from the 2 main areas could be problematic.
[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2516714]Two expressions come to mind:
Old enough to pee. Old enough for me.
And:
If she can bleed she can breed.
Seriously these chicas in the photos are 20 year old plus and correct me if I am wrong but every time I have been in SF the cops are always stopping and checking the ID's of the street girls, si o no?
The Tall Man.[/QUOTE]When I was a young lad they used to say.
Eight to eighty.
Fat legs, no legs.
Bucked teeth, no teeth.
Blind crippled or crazy.
[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2516714]Two expressions come to mind:
Old enough to pee. Old enough for me.
And:
If she can bleed she can breed.
Seriously these chicas in the photos are 20 year old plus and correct me if I am wrong but every time I have been in SF the cops are always stopping and checking the ID's of the street girls, si o no?
The Tall Man.[/QUOTE]Hi Tall Man, trying to send you a PM but your inbox is full.
[QUOTE=BigButtDetecto;2516525]These girls really look underage. Better check their cedulas.[/QUOTE]I felt that way at first too. Then as I kept asking most were close to 20 or over and have a kid as well. They just look younger for their age than what we are used to. Some in the pics are like 24. These girls were on the main drag that Woodman was referring to.
[QUOTE=JohnnyO;2516844]Hi Tall Man, trying to send you a PM but your inbox is full.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the heads-up, I will clear it now.
The Tall Man.
First and foremost, if you haven't done Woodman's tour, you need to. As someone who had been to SF many times previously, I learned a whole lot from Woodman stuff that I didn't know I didn't know LOL. Simply put, he is a cool ass dude who knows his way around.
Anyways, I arrived yesterday afternoon to El Dorado for my month long trip here to Colombia. Customs was quick and easy. Make sure you have your CheckMIG form or whatever it is called. I brought a paper copy and the immigrations officer examined it briefly, asked me the few usual questions (how long are you here, etc.), stamped my passport, and then I was on my way. Took a yellow taxi from the airport to the hotel.
Checking in was smooth and seamless. Went to the ATM then came back to relax for a bit before meeting up with Woodman and another monger (sorry I forgot to ask for your handle if you're reading this) for the tour around 630. We walked straight to SF and Woodman showed me areas that I did not even know existed previously. He stated the influx of Venezuelan immigrants has essentially made SF a boom town and the area has expanded pretty significantly. After a while we decided to check out the clubs and I'm pretty sure we went to every single club that was open. Troya, Paisas, Fiebre, Venus, California, Atunis. Given that it was the night before NYE, it was not as crowded as usual, but we saw a pretty good amount of talent in Troya and Venus. Woodman did us a huge solid and introduced us to some reliable waiters as well, which will be important later in the night (to be discussed shortly).
None of us had any sessions by the time the tour was over simply because we were all just relaxing and having a good time enjoying the scenery, having some drinks, etc. Woodman showed us some pretty cool stuff that he does, which I won't ruin and will just let him explain it to you if you take the tour. Once we said our farewells to Woodman, we went back to Troya which had a pretty good selection, and then Venus which also had a good selection. By this time the police had closed most of the clubs so you have to go through back doors when no one is around don't worry the guys outside will be asking for you to come in LOL. I got a lap dance at Troya which was mediocre and the girl, while attractive to me (I must admit I am a fan of plastic), had a bad attitude.
At Venus, one of the waiters that Woodman introduced us to was very considerate. He identified the girls that provide the best service, and he was absolutely correct. I had a quick 20-minute session with a 24 y / o Venezuelan, and she was spectacular (70 k and I did not negotiate). Friendly, no rush, and showed enthusiasm. My fellow monger friend, who previously in the night said he was not in the mood, had a session as well because when I came back he was gone! The waiter told me he convinced him to see a girl that was supposedly pretty good.
At the end of the night, the waiter hailed us a taxi and gave very explicit instructions. Even more so he texted me to ensure I got back to my hotel safely and made note that he took the cab driver's info just in case before we left. Also paid a very fair price.
Key takeaways from the first night:
- Bring a mask because cops are on the lookout.
- The selection was not incredible but it was fair. Woodman explained that it will be back to normal after new years when people return from the holidays.
- When you find a reliable waiter, tip them for their services and they will take care of you. The specific waiter from Venus never even asked for a tip, which to me was a good sign.
- Clubs will be closed tonight and tomorrow night according to a couple waiters. I might wander through anyways just to see.
- Take Woodman's tour.
In the coming days I will visit casas, the mezzanine, SF, and more. I will likely be heading back to SF on Saturday night. I also plan on trying a couple agencies if anyone has any good recommendations (besides La Celestina, of which I am already aware).
Best,
TIA.
I imagine the selection is pretty bad at this point. You should come back around Jan. 15 or later when people are actually back from holiday. What you saw is not representative of Santa Fe, even pandemic Santa Fe.
[QUOTE=TiaVoyage25;2517109]First and foremost, if you haven't done Woodman's tour, you need to. As someone who had been to SF many times previously, I learned a whole lot from Woodman stuff that I didn't know I didn't know LOL. Simply put, he is a cool ass dude who knows his way around.
Anyways, I arrived yesterday afternoon to El Dorado for my month long trip here to Colombia. Customs was quick and easy. Make sure you have your CheckMIG form or whatever it is called. I brought a paper copy and the immigrations officer examined it briefly, asked me the few usual questions (how long are you here, etc.), stamped my passport, and then I was on my way. Took a yellow taxi from the airport to the hotel.
Checking in was smooth and seamless. Went to the ATM then came back to relax for a bit before meeting up with Woodman and another monger (sorry I forgot to ask for your handle if you're reading this) for the tour around 630. We walked straight to SF and Woodman showed me areas that I did not even know existed previously. He stated the influx of Venezuelan immigrants has essentially made SF a boom town and the area has expanded pretty significantly. After a while we decided to check out the clubs and I'm pretty sure we went to every single club that was open. Troya, Paisas, Fiebre, Venus, California, Atunis. Given that it was the night before NYE, it was not as crowded as usual, but we saw a pretty good amount of talent in Troya and Venus. Woodman did us a huge solid and introduced us to some reliable waiters as well, which will be important later in the night (to be discussed shortly).
None of us had any sessions by the time the tour was over simply because we were all just relaxing and having a good time enjoying the scenery, having some drinks, etc. Woodman showed us some pretty cool stuff that he does, which I won't ruin and will just let him explain it to you if you take the tour. Once we said our farewells to Woodman, we went back to Troya which had a pretty good selection, and then Venus which also had a good selection. By this time the police had closed most of the clubs so you have to go through back doors when no one is around don't worry the guys outside will be asking for you to come in LOL. I got a lap dance at Troya which was mediocre and the girl, while attractive to me (I must admit I am a fan of plastic), had a bad attitude.
At Venus, one of the waiters that Woodman introduced us to was very considerate. He identified the girls that provide the best service, and he was absolutely correct. I had a quick 20-minute session with a 24 y / o Venezuelan, and she was spectacular (70 k and I did not negotiate). Friendly, no rush, and showed enthusiasm. My fellow monger friend, who previously in the night said he was not in the mood, had a session as well because when I came back he was gone! The waiter told me he convinced him to see a girl that was supposedly pretty good.
At the end of the night, the waiter hailed us a taxi and gave very explicit instructions. Even more so he texted me to ensure I got back to my hotel safely and made note that he took the cab driver's info just in case before we left. Also paid a very fair price.
Key takeaways from the first night:
- Bring a mask because cops are on the lookout.
- The selection was not incredible but it was fair. Woodman explained that it will be back to normal after new years when people return from the holidays.
- When you find a reliable waiter, tip them for their services and they will take care of you. The specific waiter from Venus never even asked for a tip, which to me was a good sign.
- Clubs will be closed tonight and tomorrow night according to a couple waiters. I might wander through anyways just to see.
- Take Woodman's tour.
In the coming days I will visit casas, the mezzanine, SF, and more. I will likely be heading back to SF on Saturday night. I also plan on trying a couple agencies if anyone has any good recommendations (besides La Celestina, of which I am already aware).
Best,
TIA.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Woodman09;2516801]All the girls in the main Santa Fe areas Must show valid ID and be 18+ to use the hotels-.
Areas away from the 2 main areas could be problematic.[/QUOTE]From my experience this is not completely true. It depends on the how the girls look. Some of the girls do not have ID. Whether they really lost it or they are actually underage is the question. The girls without ID's cannot go into certain hotels. The have their known hotels which they know they can get into.
[QUOTE=Kazeu;2517147]I imagine the selection is pretty bad at this point. You should come back around Jan. 15 or later when people are actually back from holiday. What you saw is not representative of Santa Fe, even pandemic Santa Fe.[/QUOTE]Why do you say Jan 15 or later which is quite a while after the holidays. I asked around here before booking my trip for Jan 7 and was advised girls would pretty much return straight after New year as they would need to start making money soon.
[QUOTE=JohnnyO;2517166]Why do you say Jan 15 or later which is quite a while after the holidays. I asked around here before booking my trip for Jan 7 and was advised girls would pretty much return straight after New year as they would need to start making money soon.[/QUOTE]I couldn't say, but I'll keep the forum updated with what it looks like in the days immediately after the New Year. In any case, there was still a decent selection overall so I wouldn't be worried at all.
[QUOTE=JohnnyO;2517166]Why do you say Jan 15 or later which is quite a while after the holidays. I asked around here before booking my trip for Jan 7 and was advised girls would pretty much return straight after New year as they would need to start making money soon.[/QUOTE]Jan 15 isn't a special date or anything. I was just being a bit conservative. I personally know a couple chicas one of which who is coming back Jan. 9 and another Jan. 12. So I was just kinda guessing Jan 15 might be a safe date. Nothing much to it than that.
This is just in contrast to going on new years eve eve which might be one of the worst days possible to go.
Thanks for your detailed account.
[QUOTE=TiaVoyage25;2517109]First and foremost, if you haven't done Woodman's tour, you need to. As someone who had been to SF many times previously, I learned a whole lot from Woodman stuff that I didn't know I didn't know LOL. Simply put, he is a cool ass dude who knows his way around.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Kazeu;2517175]Jan 15 isn't a special date or anything. I was just being a bit conservative. I personally know a couple chicas one of which who is coming back Jan. 9 and another Jan. 12. So I was just kinda guessing Jan 15 might be a safe date. Nothing much to it than that.
This is just in contrast to going on new years eve eve which might be one of the worst days possible to go.[/QUOTE]Makes sense, I appreciate your input.
I'm also in Bogota, arrived on Wednesday. While out yesterday walking Santa Fe I'm sure I passed you on your tour a couple times. I could tell because of the English being spoken. I didn't say anything not to interrupt since you guys were in full discussion. I'm the 6'1 Black Guy that was wearing blue jeans and a white shirt with Levi across the front. I'll definitely introduce myself if I happen to run into anyone of you again.
[QUOTE=TiaVoyage25;2517109]First and foremost, if you haven't done Woodman's tour, you need to. As someone who had been to SF many times previously, I learned a whole lot from Woodman stuff that I didn't know I didn't know LOL. Simply put, he is a cool ass dude who knows his way around.
Anyways, I arrived yesterday afternoon to El Dorado for my month long trip here to Colombia. Customs was quick and easy. Make sure you have your CheckMIG form or whatever it is called. I brought a paper copy and the immigrations officer examined it briefly, asked me the few usual questions (how long are you here, etc.), stamped my passport, and then I was on my way. Took a yellow taxi from the airport to the hotel.
Checking in was smooth and seamless. Went to the ATM then came back to relax for a bit before meeting up with Woodman and another monger (sorry I forgot to ask for your handle if you're reading this) for the tour around 630. We walked straight to SF and Woodman showed me areas that I did not even know existed previously. He stated the influx of Venezuelan immigrants has essentially made SF a boom town and the area has expanded pretty significantly. After a while we decided to check out the clubs and I'm pretty sure we went to every single club that was open. Troya, Paisas, Fiebre, Venus, California, Atunis. Given that it was the night before NYE, it was not as crowded as usual, but we saw a pretty good amount of talent in Troya and Venus. Woodman did us a huge solid and introduced us to some reliable waiters as well, which will be important later in the night (to be discussed shortly).[/QUOTE]
Any idea when they will stop requiring masks? Can't find anything online. Thanks.
[QUOTE=TopoChico571;2517247]Any idea when they will stop requiring masks? Can't find anything online. Thanks.[/QUOTE]Seriously? Are you on Mars at the moment? Pretty much this entire planet is requiring masks right now. You tell us when any particular one is going to stop requiring it.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2517288]Seriously? Are you on Mars at the moment? Pretty much this entire planet is requiring masks right now. You tell us when any particular one is going to stop requiring it.[/QUOTE]Jeez, did I hit a nerve, pal?
[QUOTE=TopoChico571;2517247]Any idea when they will stop requiring masks? Can't find anything online. Thanks.[/QUOTE]Its anyone's guess. I did see a couple of videos with people not wearing masks in Medellin. My intention is to travel only to countries that do not require mandatory wearing of masks. When that becomes the case I will travel again.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2517304]My intention is to travel only to countries that do not require mandatory wearing of masks. When that becomes the case I will travel again.[/QUOTE]Same here. I've seen a few posts about cops shaking people down for not wearing masks. That's a big no thanks for me.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2517304]Its anyone's guess. I did see a couple of videos with people not wearing masks in Medellin. My intention is to travel only to countries that do not require mandatory wearing of masks. When that becomes the case I will travel again.[/QUOTE]Now that's bizarre.
I can understand not traveling at this time. Crowded airports and full airplanes, regardless of air travel industry studies, seem like an added risk. I can understand wanting to wait for the vaccine, or avoiding the obvious potential exposure represented by mongering.
I just can't imagine dropping all your plans solely over having to wear a quarter ounce worth of paper on your face.
[QUOTE=Kazeu;2517175]Jan 15 isn't a special date or anything. I was just being a bit conservative. I personally know a couple chicas one of which who is coming back Jan. 9 and another Jan. 12. So I was just kinda guessing Jan 15 might be a safe date. Nothing much to it than that.
This is just in contrast to going on new years eve eve which might be one of the worst days possible to go.[/QUOTE]If I am not mistaken, the last date of the holiday period is Sunday, Jan. 10. The confusion is likely due to the variable dates on which many people return. The chicas often live far away and don't have to return by any specific day.
Is there anything going on today, chicas or otherwise?
[QUOTE=Cm6363;2517390]If I am not mistaken, the last date of the holiday period is Sunday, Jan. 10. The confusion is likely due to the variable dates on which many people return. The chicas often live far away and don't have to return by any specific day.[/QUOTE]Many Americans forget that Jan 6 is a HUGE holiday in the Catholic world (Epiphany, the day the wise men arrived to visit Jesus). In some places it is bigger than Christmas. I learned that on a very lonely visit to San Juan many years ago. No girls available and the party outside my hotel was so loud I couldn't sleep. Went out and joined it and had a good time, but everyone was with their families. Little kids out dancing at 2 am. Crazy stuff.
[QUOTE=Cm6363;2517391]Is there anything going on today, chicas or otherwise?[/QUOTE]Quiet as hell out here. I was super grateful that an exito mini was open so that I could get some food. There is nothing else open.
Gentlemen, another trip update coming in hot:
I woke up this morning feeling particularly motivated and, against my better judgment, decided to see if the casas in Chapinero were open. I figured what the hell since SF isn't going anywhere.
I took an Uber from my hotel to Chicas Milenio only to find it was closed. From there I walked south stopping at every casa until I reached La 64 (the North to South list is on Routard's Guide from 2018). Yes, you read that correctly. Every single one for a total of 19. Only two casas were open and it isn't even worth sharing because the talent was absolutely atrocious. PM me if interested both honestly not worth your time.
Refusing to give up, I hopped in another Uber and went to La Mezzanine only to find two girls working. They weren't bad. One was a solid 6. 5, had a great body and pretty face. The other was a soft 5 with a good body but not so pretty face. I almost went with the 6. 5 but, after all my efforts thus far through Chapinero, I refused to settle.
Ever more determined, I hopped in another Uber to Abadubai Spa. Ole' reliable. Except this time she wasn't so reliable as she was closed. Sad face. At this point I'm thinking, "well I'm already in the north and anything worth doing is worth overdoing. Moderation is for cowards. " So, I walked to Colorin, Isis, Lido, and Loutron. All closed. Skipped Absolut because I am not a fan of their general price to quality ratio. It is worth noting that Colorin had a sign on the door that said call for an appointment but I wasn't interested. Disclaimer: I expect Lido to be open later but I was walking by around 3 pm so the gates were closed and no guard was standing outside. Loutron was completely locked up and no one in sight.
Ever the wiser, I hopped in an Uber back to my hotel.
Before anyone says, "why didn't you call the places?" let me stop you right there. I did. Several of them. But today was about the journey, the experience, and the exercise.
Takeaways:
- My last Uber driver confirmed what other members have already said here. Most places will be closed until after January 6th. He said next weekend will be much better overall as people come back from vacation and the January 6th holiday, but many Colombians are gone through much of January. On the bright side, there is minimal traffic.
- My reliable waiter from SF the other night told me that some of the clubs will be open, so heading there later on. Report on that will come later.
- I'm going to stick to SF until next weekend because most places will be closed. Since I've done my long walk this trip, I'll be calling the places I want to visit (Abadubai and Loutron) early next week to see if they're open.
- Most importantly, I found a good place to watch football tomorrow.
Cheers,
TIA.
Thats a lot of legwork, thanks for reporting back albeit on a negative experience. There's learning in it too.
Are you working, photoprepagos, mileroticos, skokka, doncolombia and other such sites to order in?
Sorry if this has already been asked, I looked but didn't see anything. What are the "hours" of SF during these Covid times? I know in the past I would usually arrive after dark and stay until 2 am. Thanks for the info.
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[QUOTE=Woodman09;2512335]Was great showing you around-- I just want to say that there are no guarantees -- I feel Santa Fe is relatively safe-- if you take proper precautions.
But-Shit Happens-- One reason it is safe is the police presence and the Venezuelans (majority of people in SF) face deportation for criminal activity.[/QUOTE]Woodman,
I am traveling solo and would appreciate it if I could get a introduction to the area. Thanks in advance!
It looks like people entering Colombia are asked to isolate themselves for 2 weeks. Implemented yesterday.
[QUOTE=Prelude141;2518404]It looks like people entering Colombia are asked to isolate themselves for 2 weeks. Implemented yesterday.[/QUOTE]From El Tiempo Today:
"Travelers who do not have the PCR test must state in writing, on the form provided for it, their difficulty in taking the test at the place of origin or obtaining the results in the times stipulated for the flight. In these cases, once entering the country, the traveler must undergo the PCR test and keep preventive isolation for 14 days. Isolation may end sooner if the test result is negative. Both the value of the test and the costs derived from the preventive isolation, will be in charge of the traveler ", explains the resolution in its technical annex.
[URL]https://www.eltiempo.com/salud/prueba-pcr-para-entrar-a-colombia-lo-que-debe-saber-558595[/URL]
Have gone to SF the past two nights. Nothing significant to report. Due to everyone being on vacation only 2 clubs had any decent number of chicas running around (Atunis and Troya). Last night it was just Atunis after 10 pm. Troya was pretty dead. Police are everywhere to enforce quarantine, but that just means they are locking up shops and getting girls off the streets. Hustlers will still bring you inside the clubs.
Also on Tuesday a curfew goes into effect for Usaquen, Engativa, and Suba from 8 pm to 5 am daily. It is supposed to last until January 18. Those are in the northern part of the city, but I wouldn't be surprised if the mayor changes the rules in the coming days. We all saw this coming so it is what it is.
[QUOTE=GeneHickman;2517891]Thats a lot of legwork, thanks for reporting back albeit on a negative experience. There's learning in it too.
Are you working, photoprepagos, mileroticos, skokka, doncolombia and other such sites to order in?[/QUOTE]I'd like to but I'm not particularly good at screening. Any tips? In the past I've just used agencies like La Celestina.
[QUOTE=Prelude141;2518404]It looks like people entering Colombia are asked to isolate themselves for 2 weeks. Implemented yesterday.[/QUOTE]A lady friend who lives just outside of Bogota tells me only if you do not have a negative PCR. I'm assuming within 72 hours, but I am guessing. Time to research the new rules. Really does not look like I will be returning to Colombia before April at the earliest and even that may be too optimistic.
[QUOTE=Prelude141;2518404]It looks like people entering Colombia are asked to isolate themselves for 2 weeks. Implemented yesterday.[/QUOTE]Not true, your missing a lot of key information.
[QUOTE=Guerinto;2518608]A lady friend who lives just outside of Bogota tells me only if you do not have a negative PCR. I'm assuming within 72 hours, but I am guessing. Time to research the new rules. Really does not look like I will be returning to Colombia before April at the earliest and even that may be too optimistic.[/QUOTE]According to this, it is 96 hours.
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzAnxhP5NxU[/URL]
[QUOTE=MedalloPack;2518142]Sorry if this has already been asked, I looked but didn't see anything. What are the "hours" of SF during these Covid times? I know in the past I would usually arrive after dark and stay until 2 am. Thanks for the info.[/QUOTE]The street activity starts shutting down at around 10:30 pm and is mostly gone by 11 pm. The clubs close when they close.
[QUOTE=Kazeu;2518850]According to this, it is 96 hours.
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzAnxhP5NxU[/URL][/QUOTE]Thank you. A somewhat more helpful timeframe.
[QUOTE=Guerinto;2518608]A lady friend who lives just outside of Bogota tells me only if you do not have a negative PCR. I'm assuming within 72 hours, but I am guessing. Time to research the new rules. Really does not look like I will be returning to Colombia before April at the earliest and even that may be too optimistic.[/QUOTE]Requirement and rules don't start until January 12th. This is the information from the embassy and not from 3rd, 4th and 5th parties.
[URL]https://co.usembassy.gov/covid-19-information/[/URL]
Since no one has mentioned it, just want to let everyone know that 3 barrios / districts have started a strict quarantine today, to end on the 18th. The barrios effected are Usaquen, Suba and Engativa. I know a few chicas in these places and they are not happy about it.
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ps4x3tvMKHg[/URL]
If this gets too bad, I may have to consider going somewhere else.
[QUOTE=Kazeu;2518969][URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ps4x3tvMKHg[/URL]
If this gets too bad, I may have to consider going somewhere else.[/QUOTE]I'm friends with various Colombians, not just my novia and x novias but some Colombian business men who get their info at the source. I was relatively confidant the Airport would remain open because of the kickback from the banks and business community. BUT going back to the PCR requirement scares me because that is the first salvo at tourists and travelers. I'm 100% sure the lock downs and quarantines will continue to worsen and get more restrictive. When Lopez gets back from vacation, not sure when that is, I am sure the restrictions will increase in Bogota. I was in Bogota in December and it was a shadow of itself. So I won't be back anytime soon in the foreseeable future. I only hope the airport remains open so my girl can get out of Colombia in time to visit me here next week.
Keep your eye on the hospitals, they are publicly saying they are 80% full, more accurately, based on some well informed sources who are saying it is very close or at the 100% capacity. That may be the straw that breaks the camels back. The neighborhoods that are closed down now, may become the entire country tomorrow. They did it once and they can do it again. If it was me, I'd get out of dodge now, don't wait.
Thanks for the heads up. I appreciate it. I'm quite concerned about what's going to happen in the next few days. All the repercussions of the holiday partying has started to take its toll.
I agree Bogota is not in proper form at the moment. If you were in Bogota in early to mid December it wasn't actually that bad, but now, I'm not sure if its worth it. And with a possible lockdown, I'm thinking about other places in Colombia to escape to. Anyone got any suggestions? I heard monteria is nice. I also have found memories of bucaramanga.
[QUOTE=LatinaLover#1;2519033]I'm friends with various Colombians, not just my novia and x novias but some Colombian business men who get their info at the source. I was relatively confidant the Airport would remain open because of the kickback from the banks and business community. BUT going back to the PCR requirement scares me because that is the first salvo at tourists and travelers. I'm 100% sure the lock downs and quarantines will continue to worsen and get more restrictive. When Lopez gets back from vacation, not sure when that is, I am sure the restrictions will increase in Bogota. I was in Bogota in December and it was a shadow of itself. So I won't be back anytime soon in the foreseeable future. I only hope the airport remains open so my girl can get out of Colombia in time to visit me here next week.
Keep your eye on the hospitals, they are publicly saying they are 80% full, more accurately, based on some well informed sources who are saying it is very close or at the 100% capacity. That may be the straw that breaks the camels back. The neighborhoods that are closed down now, may become the entire country tomorrow. They did it once and they can do it again. If it was me, I'd get out of dodge now, don't wait.[/QUOTE]
Went there in November. They still needed corona tests to get in but the ticket was such a deal, I went.
So even in pandemic season, things were still wicked out there.
Santa Fe was heavy trafficked and in a dark lit neon place with pretty girls, johns, pimps, dealers and trannies. Cops everywhere of course. All in a perfect motion, a feeling both haunting and beautiful. Humans of all shapes and sizes for whatever your fetish was.
A lot of police activity due to pandemic. Streets started closing around 10-11 so had to go find girls earlier. Some started their work pretty early despite the constant flashing lights. Once I even got stopped mid uber trip and told I was committing a crime by riding in an uber. Was told it was illegal in Bogota and was completely searched including my backpack. Good thing I hadn't brought along any of my candy that would have been a different story. Initial stop because the driver was going in the opposite direction so he did have to give them a tip anyway made it to the destination which was a girl from the web. She looked exactly like her pics. I had gotten lucky. A few times they didn't look like the pics. When in doubt of choice, go for higher end chick.
Well stupidly but charming, I decided to choose to stay within the streets of Santa Fe. The hotel was cheap like 35 k a night and was also facing one of the streets. They lowered price to 30 k once I said I was to stay multiple days. Clean room with a "view" so I was enjoying the street action while getting lit. Anxiety when I went out in the dark by myself, yeah there were many eerie faces out there but I kept to myself other than to buy goodies. Even then I would come back and do a deposit so I wouldn't have much in pockets. When out there anytime I would wear a hat, mask and monotone clothing to attract the least attention. Nearby residents there eventually started seeing me in and out of the room once I would get in a daze, so I always watched what I carried. No one will care you're out there for girls but both cops and non cops still get suspicious of people walking around and around thinking you're out there to do something else. I was searched once by police while "browsing" and they let me go I had nothing on me although I was walking on clouds by that point.
If you've never been, there's more girls in the streets than you can probably take on. I repeated a few of course there's always amazing ones and would ask them to go to my motel it was literally around the corner. Hotel wanted me to pay like 20 k extra to bring in someone so I did and once this girl came and we had just started and she was kicked out by one of the staff members. They recognized her and were causing a ruckus. Who knows what she had done in the past to them so I just said fuck it and let her leave. Every other time I bought in anyone it was cool just had to have the money. Everything is about money over there. But when going out, I wouldn't carry a ton of cash just what I needed for that day. I carried an old phone, got it unlocked before going and bought a chip arriving there no problems mostly used whatsapp and uber which was cheaper than the cabs.
Girls were around 35-45 k for a qv and would really give you whatever you wanted.
Well worth the trip even for a sick fuck like me, walking around in that maze of all the babes, purple powder and smoke one can handle.
[QUOTE=Kazeu;2519038]I heard monteria is nice.[/QUOTE]No way. That place sux even in non-Covid times. Unless you prefer being bored to death.
[QUOTE=Kazeu;2519038]Thanks for the heads up. I appreciate it. I'm quite concerned about what's going to happen in the next few days. All the repercussions of the holiday partying has started to take its toll.
I agree Bogota is not in proper form at the moment. If you were in Bogota in early to mid December it wasn't actually that bad, but now, I'm not sure if its worth it. And with a possible lockdown, I'm thinking about other places in Colombia to escape to. Anyone got any suggestions? I heard monteria is nice. I also have found memories of bucaramanga.[/QUOTE]Although I'd rethink Colombia entirely, lots of unknowns right now. Bucaramanga is pretty dangerous in the moment. I'd get out of all the cities. Maybe head to a beach town. I'd go to Santa Marta, bring a favorita with me or mine for something special in Santa Marta, one you enjoy enough to spend some extended time with. Then, not far away, we could go to Tyrona Nat'l park, great beaches and scuba diving, go native until all this blows over. Stay at Villa Maria Tayrona hotel. It's just outside the Park so if they close the Park your still ok. Spiny lobster, arroz de coco and a cold beer the best way I know of waiting out a lockdown in Colombia. Keep us informed of your decision. Stay safe and good luck brother.
[QUOTE=MongerHunger;2518966]Requirement and rules don't start until January 12th. This is the information from the embassy and not from 3rd, 4th and 5th parties.
[URL]https://co.usembassy.gov/covid-19-information/[/URL][/QUOTE]Very helpful, but I am not American. Sometimes other countries misinterpret or misunderstand the requirements, although I'm not saying that is the case here. Ideally I will try to find an official Colombian government source and try to understand that. An expat board may have an English translation too. Either way, I won't be traveling until the Canadian eliminates the 72 hour PCR test requirement to re-enter Canada. I have no way of guaranteeing I can get such a test in Colombia in time and I cannot afford to be forced to quarantine in a government facility for 14 days. Warranting at home is fine, as I work from home and can stay home no problem.
For now the government has made me a prisoner in my own country.
[QUOTE=Guerinto;2519211]Very helpful, but I am not American. Sometimes other countries misinterpret or misunderstand the requirements, although I'm not saying that is the case here. Ideally I will try to find an official Colombian government source and try to understand that.[/QUOTE]Definitely not the case here. Come on mayne. If you really wanted to go somewhere then the information is instantly at your fingertips. And it does not discriminate based on nationality. It takes longer to make excuses than to find this info from the Colombian Minister of Health and the Canadian Embassy in Colombia.
"La resolucin 0002 de 2021 otorga un plazo, fijando la toma de la prueba PCR en Colombia a partir del 12 de enero de 2021."
[url]https://www.eltiempo.com/politica/gobierno/viajeros-internacionales-requisitos-para-entrada-y-salida-a-colombia-2021-558888[/url]
[QUOTE=Guerinto;2519211]Either way, I won't be traveling until the Canadian eliminates the 72 hour PCR test requirement to re-enter Canada. I have no way of guaranteeing I can get such a test in Colombia in time[/QUOTE]Well you can not guarantee that you will be living tomorrow, but if you really wanted to even attempt getting a test in Colombia, then your government has posted this link for you on their website.
[URL]https://covid19.minsalud.gov.co/[/URL]
[url]https://travel.gc.ca/destinations/colombia[/url]
I'm scheduled to be back in Bogota January 24-30. I've made the excuses at home and with work. I've found the right logistics and I've interacted with a TON of SA girls. I can get a PCR test before I fly. But man, I worry that things will get stricter and I either won't be able to see the girls or (worst case) Colombia tries to shut down the airport again. I can't afford to be stuck there when I'm on a covert trip. I really don't want to face reality. Maybe I should take a first shot at the scene in CDMX. But it looks like they are imposing curfews there too.
If I have to cancel Bogota? Are there any other destinations for a 1 week getaway that I should look into?
[QUOTE=ShadowJ;2519263]I'm scheduled to be back in Bogota January 24-30. I've made the excuses at home and with work. I've found the right logistics and I've interacted with a TON of SA girls. I can get a PCR test before I fly. But man, I worry that things will get stricter and I either won't be able to see the girls or (worst case) Colombia tries to shut down the airport again. I can't afford to be stuck there when I'm on a covert trip. I really don't want to face reality. Maybe I should take a first shot at the scene in CDMX. But it looks like they are imposing curfews there too.
If I have to cancel Bogota? Are there any other destinations for a 1 week getaway that I should look into?[/QUOTE]My girls Father lives in Suba and the lock down is serious. Soldiers everywhere and not playing. Lopez is back and the hospitals are full. I bagged my trip to Colombia. Too many negatives, more lockdowns to come, maybe the entire country, possibly getting stuck in Colombia and worse, getting covid and needing treatment in Colombia in a ICU full to max, I could go on but I think it's time to stop letting the little head do the thinking. Trust me, I know how you feel, after traveling for many many years at this hobby I was always trying to talk myself into it. LOL.
Went to SF last night and it was pretty solid. Unfortunately, I am told the clubs will all be closed this weekend due to an impending curfew. This comes from a reliable source (my waiter friend) who works at one of the clubs. No idea how long it'll last, but at least through next Monday. No clue as to what the street action will look like.
As for the airport shutting down. Highly, highly, highly, unlikely. I asked a friend who is in the government if that is likely to happen, to which he said no chance. Why? Central government won't allow it. Businesses need to continue operate to some extent and air travel is one of them. If anything, there would be restrictions for people coming into the country as the holiday season concludes, but very unlikely that they won't let people leave. This only happened in March because no one really understood covid and its implications, which is why the whole world shut down in the first place.
That being said, more lockdowns are definitely coming. Anyone here can read between the lines if you are following the news. The city and mayor's twitter all indicate that if ICU capacity reaches 85%, which is very close, then more severe restrictions will go in place. I don't recommend visiting through the month of January, but as always, it is a personal choice.
Cheers,
TIA.
Based on ICU occupancy, the higher the cases the more restrictive the curfew. I hate being negative but believe there is more to come, especially in Bogota now that Lopez is back form vacation.
This is from Duque and is decreed for the entire nation, not just Bogota.
[URL]https://www.noticiasrcn.com/nacional/decretan-toque-de-queda-para-ciudades-con-ocupaciones-uci-superiores-al-70-368088[/URL]
Hi all,
There was a list on here listing all casa and massages places in Bogota, I can't seem to find it for the life of me.
Can anybody see it?
[QUOTE=Mc2988;2519044]...I decided to choose to stay within the streets of Santa Fe. The hotel was cheap like 35 k a night and was also facing one of the streets....[/QUOTE]How did you sleep with all the noise?
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2519255]Definitely not the case here. Come on mayne. If you really wanted to go somewhere then the information is instantly at your fingertips. And it does not discriminate based on nationality. It takes longer to make excuses than to find this info from the Colombian Minister of Health and the Canadian Embassy in Colombia.
"La resolucin 0002 de 2021 otorga un plazo, fijando la toma de la prueba PCR en Colombia a partir del 12 de enero de 2021."
[url]https://www.eltiempo.com/politica/gobierno/viajeros-internacionales-requisitos-para-entrada-y-salida-a-colombia-2021-558888[/url]
Well you can not guarantee that you will be living tomorrow, but if you really wanted to even attempt getting a test in Colombia, then your government has posted this link for you on their website.
[URL]https://covid19.minsalud.gov.co/[/URL]
[url]https://travel.gc.ca/destinations/colombia[/url][/QUOTE]Thanks, but I did not ask for any help. I am more than capable of doing my own research and you kind of proved my point, which is go to the source, hence Colombia. It's not my first rodeo. Been traveling all my adult life of 30+ years. To reiterate my point and be more direct. I do not trust anything coming from the USA at this point and certainly not information on another country. Sorry for not being specific enough.
Thanks for the official link from the Colombian government themselves though. I will read that when I have some time. I have to guarantee getting back into Canada on schedule, otherwise I don't go. That is my business and my risk management tolerance. I have responsibilities here and cannot piss my livelihood away because I took a vacation when I should be staying at home.
[QUOTE=Artisttyp;2513109]If any of you guys have Amazon Prime I recommend looking at a show called No Go Zones. It is a documentary series about rough neighborhoods throughout the world. Last night I watched an episode on the Santa Fe area of Bogota. It goes into La Piscina and shows what a lot of people describe on this thread. I haven't been to Bogota so it was really interesting to see.
If you are just at home on lockdown and want to see first hand what Santa Fe is about. Highly Recommended.[/QUOTE]Thanks for this. I got a 30-day trial membership and watched all 5 episodes. Cool stuff, although I found the show version of Santa Fe much scarier than what I saw in person.
All of Bogota just started quarentine.
[URL]https://www.elespectador.com/noticias/bogota/como-al-comienzo-bogota-entra-en-cuarentena-total/[/URL]
This is doo doo. Curfew from midnight to 4 am now and 8 pm to 4 am the 12th thru 17th. Looks like I will be canceling my plans to go there, unless I go to Barranquilla and they don't start it there.
[QUOTE=Guerinto;2519611]Thanks for this. I got a 30-day trial membership and watched all 5 episodes. Cool stuff, although I found the show version of Santa Fe much scarier than what I saw in person.[/QUOTE]The reason for that is because all the reviews say it is fake and staged.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2519808]The reason for that is because all the reviews say it is fake and staged.[/QUOTE]And atrocious "acting" especially the MNL episode.
I was set to go and chose not to. Here is an English based story on the Bogota lockdown:[URL]https://thebogotapost.com/bogota-on-red-alert-citywide-curfew/48310/[/URL].
Just days after Bogotá introduced the first new measures to counter the second wave of the coronavirus, Mayor Claudia Lopéz has announced a curfew and other further restrictions.
The city is on red alert as the emergency room occupation reaches 86%, and from tonight, mobility in the capital will be restricted for four days. The Ministry of Health announced the movement of people and vehicles in public spaces will be restricted in any city with an emergency room occupation above 85%.
She warned the numbers of cases are rising faster than anticipated and also that a higher viral load is also being detected. In addition, López raised the possibility that the drastic rise in numbers could reflect the presence of the new strain that was first identified in the UK.
From 11.59 pm tonight until 4 am on Tuesday, the city will see a total restriction on mobility. As yet the announcements aren't clear on what will be restricted, but the TransMilenio will continue to operate.
To summarise:
Mobility restriction from 11.59 pm tonight (Jan. 7) to 4 am on Jan. 12.
There will be no ciclovía on Sunday and Monday (Jan. 10 and 11).
Parks will be shut from Saturday, Jan. 9.
A citywide nightly curfew will begin on Jan. 12.
Kennedy, Fontibon, and Teusaquillo will also enter strict quarantine on Jan. 12.
Quarantines will remain in Suba, Engativá and Usaquéand.
Pico why seeédula will continue until the end of January.
Similar rules and exceptions apply:
One person per household can go to the shops.
You're allowed to take pets out.
You're allowed to go out for an hour of exercise, though group exercise is not allowed. Children should be accompanied by an adult, and one adult cannot be responsible for more than three minors.
Supermarkets, pharmacies and stores will continue to operate, as well as food delivery services — though pico why cédula is still in place.
You're allowed to go out for medical reasons, whether it's for an appointment or to buy medicine.
El Dorado airport will function as normal, as will other transport services in and out of the city.
Bank and notary services will still operate.
The fine for breaking the rules is one monthly minimum salary (just over COP $900,000).
One person per household will be allowed to go out for essentials — such as shopping and banking. One hour of exercise will be permitted per day, and alcohol will not be on sale at weekends in those districts.
The mayor's office warned that one in three tests in Bogotá are coming back positive. With vaccination some way off, it remains to be seen what impact these restrictions will have on the city's health and economy.
It was the last statement that did it for me: one in three tests coming back positive. That tells me the number of cases in Colombia are way higher than what has been officially reported.
[QUOTE=Guerinto;2519611]Thanks for this. I got a 30-day trial membership and watched all 5 episodes. Cool stuff, although I found the show version of Santa Fe much scarier than what I saw in person.[/QUOTE]Right. I was there several times, alone or with either my nephew or Woodman, and never ever felt threatened or in some unpleasant situation, even in the wee hours.
Maybe because I am fluent in spanish and stay away from pot, coke or else. Never get drunk outdoors either. It would never cross my mind to fuck the slim girls I feel attracted to in those seedy rooms upstairs. I usually ask them to change their clothes to more college like outfits, take them to my Tequendama suite and in the morning we have buffet breakfast downstairs. Of course it costs me a bit more but never had any issues at the reception, not even had to pay an extra fee for the girl.
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2519818]I was set to go and chose not to. Here is an English based story on the Bogota lockdown:[URL]https://thebogotapost.com/bogota-on-red-alert-citywide-curfew/48310/[/URL].
Just days after Bogot introduced the first new measures to counter the second wave of the coronavirus, Mayor Claudia Lopz has announced a curfew and other further restrictions.
The city is on red alert as the emergency room occupation reaches 86%, and from tonight, mobility in the capital will be restricted for four days. The Ministry of Health announced the movement of people and vehicles in public spaces will be restricted in any city with an emergency room occupation above 85%.
She warned the numbers of cases are rising faster than anticipated and also that a higher viral load is also being detected. In addition, Lpez raised the possibility that the drastic rise in numbers could reflect the presence of the new strain that was first identified in the UK.
From 11.59 pm tonight until 4 am on Tuesday, the city will see a total restriction on mobility. As yet the announcements aren't clear on what will be restricted, but the TransMilenio will continue to operate.
To summarise:
Mobility restriction from 11.59 pm tonight (Jan. 7) to 4 am on Jan. 12.
There will be no ciclova on Sunday and Monday (Jan. 10 and 11).
Parks will be shut from Saturday, Jan. 9.
A citywide nightly curfew will begin on Jan. 12.
Kennedy, Fontibon, and Teusaquillo will also enter strict quarantine on Jan. 12.
Quarantines will remain in Suba, Engativ and Usaquand.
Pico why seedula will continue until the end of January.
Similar rules and exceptions apply:
One person per household can go to the shops.
You're allowed to take pets out.
You're allowed to go out for an hour of exercise, though group exercise is not allowed. Children should be accompanied by an adult, and one adult cannot be responsible for more than three minors.
Supermarkets, pharmacies and stores will continue to operate, as well as food delivery services though pico why cdula is still in place.
You're allowed to go out for medical reasons, whether it's for an appointment or to buy medicine.
El Dorado airport will function as normal, as will other transport services in and out of the city.
Bank and notary services will still operate.
The fine for breaking the rules is one monthly minimum salary (just over COP $900,000).
One person per household will be allowed to go out for essentials such as shopping and banking. One hour of exercise will be permitted per day, and alcohol will not be on sale at weekends in those districts.
The mayor's office warned that one in three tests in Bogot are coming back positive. With vaccination some way off, it remains to be seen what impact these restrictions will have on the city's health and economy.
It was the last statement that did it for me: one in three tests coming back positive. That tells me the number of cases in Colombia are way higher than what has been officially reported.[/QUOTE]Bogota is famous for extending lockdowns and curfews just before they expire. I told you guys' over a week ago this was going to happen, that's why I cancelled my trip for next week. I believe we will be in the shit here at least till the beginning of February if not longer.
Yea I'm thinking things are not going to be pleasant in Bogota for the upcoming few weeks at least. Does anyone know of anyplace in Colombia where we can still monger with relative ease? I was thinking of going to cucuta just because I've been chatting with a chica from there I'd like to meet, but I'm not sure. I heard they just implemented curfews. Maybe its time to go back to medellin? Or maybe just some smaller town somewhere else? It seems like all the big cities are locking down. Not sure. Looking for suggestions.
[QUOTE=LatinaLover#1;2519908]Bogota is famous for extending lockdowns and curfews just before they expire. I told you guys' over a week ago this was going to happen, that's why I cancelled my trip for next week. I believe we will be in the shit here at least till the beginning of February if not longer.[/QUOTE]Yeah, LL, you were right. I agree with you on the lockdown being extended or some kind of restriction going into February. For the first time though, I am not sensing any political moves on this particular action with the Bogota mayor trying to one up the president. Today was the highest number of cases Colombia has had at 18,000+.
If you look here, [URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_pandemic_in_Colombia[/URL], you can see how many people have active cases of Covid per department (province) in Colombia. When I talked to my chica in Cartagena about going to Santa Marta, she said yes, thought about it, and then balked. There are 2 million people in Bolivar, the department Cartagena is in, and per the wiki page, only around 2000 active cases so about one in a thousand people officially has an active case of Covid. She was afraid of going not because of what the media was saying but what she personally has seen. There is no fucking way just one in a thousand people has Covid in Cartagena, no fucking way the number is that low.
Colombia has followed much the same curve as the USA. Officially, the USA has one in 40 or so people with Covid but there is a high false negative rate with the test and not everyone who has the virus has had the test. So how many people really have Covid in the USA right now? One in 10? One in 20? And why would it be any different here than in Colombia? We are hitting a record number of cases and so is Colombia.
This it the time to panic, but I think everyone has virus fatigue.
[QUOTE=Kazeu;2519925]Yea I'm thinking things are not going to be pleasant in Bogota for the upcoming few weeks at least. Does anyone know of anyplace in Colombia where we can still monger with relative ease? I was thinking of going to cucuta just because I've been chatting with a chica from there I'd like to meet, but I'm not sure. I heard they just implemented curfews. Maybe its time to go back to medellin? Or maybe just some smaller town somewhere else? It seems like all the big cities are locking down. Not sure. Looking for suggestions.[/QUOTE]I just talked to a guy in Cartagena-- he said there is no lockdown there.
The Santa Fe area is pretty much dead. All bars and many restaurants are closed. Some restaurants are open only for delivery and take out. There are a few girls sporadically on the street, but they are old or non-good looking. Hope this will "really" end on Tuesday.
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2519967]Yeah, LL, you were right. I agree with you on the lockdown being extended or some kind of restriction going into February. For the first time though, I am not sensing any political moves on this particular action with the Bogota mayor trying to one up the president. Today was the highest number of cases Colombia has had at 18,000+.
If you look here, [URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_pandemic_in_Colombia[/URL], you can see how many people have active cases of Covid per department (province) in Colombia. When I talked to my chica in Cartagena about going to Santa Marta, she said yes, thought about it, and then balked. There are 2 million people in Bolivar, the department Cartagena is in, and per the wiki page, only around 2000 active cases so about one in a thousand people officially has an active case of Covid. She was afraid of going not because of what the media was saying but what she personally has seen. There is no fucking way just one in a thousand people has Covid in Cartagena, no fucking way the number is that low.
Colombia has followed much the same curve as the USA. Officially, the USA has one in 40 or so people with Covid but there is a high false negative rate with the test and not everyone who has the virus has had the test. So how many people really have Covid in the USA right now? One in 10? One in 20? And why would it be any different here than in Colombia? We are hitting a record number of cases and so is Colombia.
This it the time to panic, but I think everyone has virus fatigue.[/QUOTE]Before it gets better. I don't think Lopez will close the airport but she will make it as difficult as she can to move around the city. The spiking of the cases will fuel more quarantines and curfews and severe lockdowns in the near future. However I really believe springtime will afford us a lot more opportunities to travel and enjoy our favorite sport. If Colombia gets this vaccine stepped up, we should be in high cotton by April. Best to just hibernate for the next 90 days. Stay safe brothers.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2520286]Well the one in Peru will be 93 when he gets out of prison in another 25 years. And the one in Colombia killed himself in jail because he did not want to do the time. Maybe you will fall somewhere between the two.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=AntonioSsesp;2520219]Hello,
Does anyone know any way to find virgin girls.
I know that a few years ago in Peru if it was possible since a member of the forum put you in contact with them.
Do you know if someone in Colombia also does something similar?[/QUOTE]Heed Mr Enternational's advice and besides you would be hard pressed to find a truly virgin 18 yo Colombia as most have lost it by early or even pre-teen, just the way it is.
Yea was his name not Dave or David something or another a few years back here in Medellin, busted for promoting not legal age, they put him in prison and after a relatively short time he left but feet first if you know what I mean, he offed himself.
I have had 2 virgins in my life, both many many years ago when I was young and thought that I was in love with high school sweethearts, well in hindsight we were both just fumbling around as I myself had not a clue what to do hehehehehe.
With one of these "lost loves", now 40 plus years later, I still keep in contact with her through family friends of friends, we talk about once every decade and catch up. They say you never forget your first, yes I lost my virginity with her high in the mountains above Malibu California, but the next thousand or more are all just a blur like 2 ships passing in the night.
The Tall Man.
ICU bed occupancy 90 percent now.
They are in the Bogota List thread.
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2205-Bogota-Lists[/URL]
[QUOTE=MichaelLockhar;2519430]Hi all,
There was a list on here listing all casa and massages places in Bogota, I can't seem to find it for the life of me.
Can anybody see it?[/QUOTE]
I've been dying for another monger trip. I was going to do a repeat of my previous trip to Bogota which worked out well-a mix of Mezzanine and Santa Fe. But everything points to not being able to travel to Colombia due to Covid. With that said any recommendations where I can travel in Central / South America for a one week mongering trip? ID like to go this month or next. Thanks.
Showdown.
[QUOTE=Showdown;2520916]I've been dying for another monger trip. I was going to do a repeat of my previous trip to Bogota which worked out well-a mix of Mezzanine and Santa Fe. But everything points to not being able to travel to Colombia due to Covid. With that said any recommendations where I can travel in Central / South America for a one week mongering trip? ID like to go this month or next. Thanks.
Showdown.[/QUOTE]Check IATA site: [URL]https://www.iatatravelcentre.com/international-travel-document-news/1580226297.htm[/URL].
Everything now is due to the malady. You need 72 hours PCR test for Brazil, and I consider the country to be less restrictive and hobby venues open, no quarantine. Cuba will quarantine you if you test positive on arrival. Mexico has a red-orange-yellow-green system and many restrictions per state.
If you're from the US, and disregard the health risk to you, then Brazil is your answer. As always, mine is only an opinion. Would like a trip too, but can't take a short trip because of the restrictions on a way back and a quarantine and emergency / curfew back home.
At the airport heading down to Bogota now for 7 days then Barranquilla for 7 days. Will see what is truly going on there. Got my good list of non-pros and pros who are waiting. Most are telling me that there is no real issues. One of the non-pros will be meeting me at the airport.
[QUOTE=BlueTouch;2520560]ICU bed occupancy 90 percent now.[/QUOTE]And of my favorites in Bogota, a dancer at Fiebre, just told me she has Covid. As I said before, now is the time to be scared.
[QUOTE=Showdown;2520916]I've been dying for another monger trip. I was going to do a repeat of my previous trip to Bogota which worked out well-a mix of Mezzanine and Santa Fe. But everything points to not being able to travel to Colombia due to Covid. With that said any recommendations where I can travel in Central / South America for a one week mongering trip? ID like to go this month or next. Thanks.
Showdown.[/QUOTE]All nations are affected by Covid. This is not a time for domestic or foreign travel. It is in your best interest to stay at home. Just wait for a year.
[QUOTE=Showdown;2520916]I've been dying for another monger trip. I was going to do a repeat of my previous trip to Bogota which worked out well-a mix of Mezzanine and Santa Fe. But everything points to not being able to travel to Colombia due to Covid. With that said any recommendations where I can travel in Central / South America for a one week mongering trip? ID like to go this month or next. Thanks.
Showdown.[/QUOTE]Go to Cartagena. This past weekend was nice and less restrictive that other major cities I. Colombia. No lockdown and the beaches are open.
My girl in Bogotá just told me "this weekend we will have strict quarantine again". I have not verified the information as I'm not there and doesn't affect me.
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2521139]And of my favorites in Bogota, a dancer at Fiebre, just told me she has Covid. As I said before, now is the time to be scared.[/QUOTE]One of my girls in Santa Fe has Covid as well.
[QUOTE=BlueTouch;2521322]One of my girls in Santa Fe has Covid as well.[/QUOTE]Has anyone done the covid PCR test with doctor note in Bogota before? I read online it's in private clinic. Is it cost 220 k COP and do you need appointment? Any cheaper alternative?
USA sets new policy to require foreign travelers or returners to do covid test with doctor note within 3 days starting 1/26, that's why.
[QUOTE=BlueTouch;2521322]One of my girls in Santa Fe has Covid as well.[/QUOTE]The "reported" cases in Bogota are 525,000 now. The city population is about 11 million. So the infection rate is about 5 percent. The rate maybe about triple- 15 percent, if unreported cases are roughly estimated. So, 1-2 out of 10 persons in Bogota are infected. If you contact 10 persons, you are likely to be contacting an infected person.
Anybody down there right now?
What is the current situation with lockdowns / moving restrictions? Are non-essential businesses open?
It seems like the holiday lockdown has been lifted, but I can't find any info regarding its extension.
[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2521578]What is the current situation with lockdowns / moving restrictions? Are non-essential businesses open?
It seems like the holiday lockdown has been lifted, but I can't find any info regarding its extension.[/QUOTE]I am not there, but the lockdown has been extended and more neighborhoods have been quarantined.
[URL]https://thebogotapost.com/citywide-lockdown-for-the-weekend-in-bogota/48408/[/URL]
[QUOTE=Forever18;2521403]Has anyone done the covid PCR test with doctor note in Bogota before? I read online it's in private clinic. Is it cost 220 k COP and do you need appointment? Any cheaper alternative?
USA sets new policy to require foreign travelers or returners to do covid test with doctor note within 3 days starting 1/26, that's why.[/QUOTE]You do not need a negative PCR test to return to the USA. You can do the antigen test which only takes 15 minutes, and the antigen test is usually cheaper.
You need a negative Covid test to go to Colombia but it has to be PCR. To return, you just need a negative Covid test.
It is confusing as hell.
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2521587]You do not need a negative PCR test to return to the USA. You can do the antigen test which only takes 15 minutes, and the antigen test is usually cheaper.
You need a negative Covid test to go to Colombia but it has to be PCR. To return, you just need a negative Covid test.
It is confusing as hell.[/QUOTE]An antigen test is good too. Entering Colombia you need a PCR entering USA an antigen test will suffice and doesn't go into effect until January 26. However this shit is in constant flux, not so much here but in Colombia they can change it on a dime. I'd recommend my brothers to get on a plane home now, in case you test positive you might be stuck somewhere for a long time.
[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2521578]Anybody down there right now?
What is the current situation with lockdowns / moving restrictions? Are non-essential businesses open?
It seems like the holiday lockdown has been lifted, but I can't find any info regarding its extension.[/QUOTE]Colombia extends selective quarantine until the end of February.
Not a good time to visit my friend. I'd wait a month before I made a decision. The flights are pretty empty again so I think you can catch a flight damn near the night before.
Mira.
Bogota, Jan 13 (Reuters) - Colombia will extend a so-called selective quarantine until the end of February, President Ivan Duque said in a nightly address on Wednesday. This also includes the health state of emergency.
[QUOTE=LatinaLover#1;2521623]An antigen test is good too. Entering Colombia you need a PCR entering USA an antigen test will suffice and doesn't go into effect until January 26. However this shit is in constant flux, not so much here but in Colombia they can change it on a dime. I'd recommend my brothers to get on a plane home now, in case you test positive you might be stuck somewhere for a long time.[/QUOTE]Antigen test only proves that you had it in the past, or you have had a vaccine that gives you immunity. So if you have had Covid that will allow you on. But a negative antigen test proves nothing. You could have active Covid and still not have effective immunity, in fact you would be contagious.
So the only option is the PCR test, unless you are sure you have had Covid and would test positive on the antigen test.
In other words, a negative antigen test is useless, but a negative PCR test will prove that you don't have it at the moment (more or less).
[QUOTE=Zeos1;2521846]Antigen test only proves that you had it in the past, or you have had a vaccine that gives you immunity. So if you have had Covid that will allow you on. But a negative antigen test proves nothing. You could have active Covid and still not have effective immunity, in fact you would be contagious.
So the only option is the PCR test, unless you are sure you have had Covid and would test positive on the antigen test.
In other words, a negative antigen test is useless, but a negative PCR test will prove that you don't have it at the moment (more or less).[/QUOTE]It doesn't matter if the antigen test is useless. We all just need to do what is required to get on a plane. Almost the whole fucking year they required nothing to enter the USA.
[QUOTE=Zeos1;2521846]Antigen test only proves that you had it in the past, or you have had a vaccine that gives you immunity. So if you have had Covid that will allow you on. But a negative antigen test proves nothing. You could have active Covid and still not have effective immunity, in fact you would be contagious.
So the only option is the PCR test, unless you are sure you have had Covid and would test positive on the antigen test.
In other words, a negative antigen test is useless, but a negative PCR test will prove that you don't have it at the moment (more or less).[/QUOTE]As explained in a post I just did in Medellin section, Zeos1 is confusing antigen tests with antibody tests. As per the CDC order, a negative antigen test is a perfectly good way to fly back to the US. In fact, it is preferable to the PCR test (which, like the antigen test when negative, shows you are not currently infected with the virus) because it is much faster and cheaper. What Zeos1 is describing is the antibody test, which is a blood test that, in the case of a positive result, means you had the virus in the past and so now have some level of immunity to it. The CDC will not allow you to fly back to US solely on basis of positive antibody test.
[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2521880]It doesn't matter if the antigen test is useless. We all just need to do what is required to get on a plane. Almost the whole fucking year they required nothing to enter the USA.[/QUOTE]I doubt that the requirement is that stupid. I would not show up at the airport expecting to get on a plane assuming that the gate agents are that ignorant, nor that the requirements are that stupid.
[QUOTE=LatinaLover#1;2521843]Colombia extends selective quarantine until the end of February.
Not a good time to visit my friend. I'd wait a month before I made a decision.[/QUOTE]You're fucking optimistic! I wouldn't fly to plaguelandia until I'd been jabbed. It'll be the end of the year, at best, before Locombia sees the ass end of this.
[QUOTE=Tricksta;2521881]As explained in a post I just did in Medellin section, Zeos1 is confusing antigen tests with antibody tests. As per the CDC order, a negative antigen test is a perfectly good way to fly back to the US. In fact, it is preferable to the PCR test (which, like the antigen test when negative, shows you are not currently infected with the virus) because it is much faster and cheaper. What Zeos1 is describing is the antibody test, which is a blood test that, in the case of a positive result, means you had the virus in the past and so now have some level of immunity to it. The CDC will not allow you to fly back to US solely on basis of positive antibody test.[/QUOTE]Correct. My apologies.
I had biz in Bogota a little while back and wanted to check out the fantastic and legendary Zona T.
First, I was appealed by the look of dystopia and then also by the pros on the corner even in the day time.
I hired a driver and in 3 days did drive-by's in the day endlessly and loved it. Would stop to talk to chicas and invite them to my rented apartment a bit away from the Zona. I did not go at night and was told not to.
Avg cost was about 150-200 k for I thought was very high quality. I don't know if that was going rate, but that is what I offered and they accepted.
Did trios with 2 girls a few times and the girls were ok with about anything and we worked it out ahead of time. Even got my driver laid as we did DP on one pro. Some real hotties about 19-22. Most with a bit of baby damage.
Even with some erectile help I was fucked out by end of day 3. All in all I had 5 girls with 1 repeat.
Fucking great time, but not for the faint of heart.
There are positive and negative developments all the time. For example, there are voices in departments of the country to supplement direct purchases of vaccines by departments. Makes sense. I guess you may call it drugs for drugs deal. AstraZeneca may easily start selling its cheap monkey stuff, and Colombia is flush with money to pay for it. On the other hand there is a nasty game of touting new strains, and this malady has several mutations daily, all in order to ban flights from a country where so called new strain is found. Also, until the youth get the jab, the malady won't easily disappear. So, get ready to be exposed to the malady one way or another.
[QUOTE=Questner;2522005]There are positive and negative developments all the time. For example, there are voices in departments of the country to supplement direct purchases of vaccines by departments. Makes sense. I guess you may call it drugs for drugs deal. AstraZeneca may easily start selling its cheap monkey stuff, and Colombia is flush with money to pay for it. On the other hand there is a nasty game of touting new strains, and this malady has several mutations daily, all in order to ban flights from a country where so called new strain is found. Also, until the youth get the jab, the malady won't easily disappear. So, get ready to be exposed to the malady one way or another.[/QUOTE]A bit of a negative view. In my opinion. I think the AstraZeneca will be a good one. New strains of the virus are not likely going to negate the efficacy of most or all of the vaccines (assuming they have efficacy in the first place). And restricting flights, and movement in general, is generally helpful. Your point about youth is well taken. Stopping it there maybe should be a priority.
[QUOTE=OldSchool318;2521991]I had biz in Bogota a little while back and wanted to check out the fantastic and legendary Zona T.
First, I was appealed by the look of dystopia and then also by the pros on the corner even in the day time.
I hired a driver and in 3 days did drive-by's in the day endlessly and loved it. Would stop to talk to chicas and invite them to my rented apartment a bit away from the Zona. I did not go at night and was told not to.
Avg cost was about 150-200 k for I thought was very high quality. I don't know if that was going rate, but that is what I offered and they accepted.
Did trios with 2 girls a few times and the girls were ok with about anything and we worked it out ahead of time. Even got my driver laid as we did DP on one pro. Some real hotties about 19-22. Most with a bit of baby damage.
Even with some erectile help I was fucked out by end of day 3. All in all I had 5 girls with 1 repeat.
Fucking great time, but not for the faint of heart.[/QUOTE]Hilarious. I've stayed in that area. It's not easy to find Zona T (in a sense) and if you found chicas there. My hat's off to you. It's a commercial area, lots of restaurants, shopping, etc. But the post makes it seem like some sort of grand area. It's a very small very commercial area area. Am I missing something?
[QUOTE=Zeos1;2522030]Hilarious. I've stayed in that area. It's not easy to find Zona T (in a sense) and if you found chicas there. My hat's off to you. It's a commercial area, lots of restaurants, shopping, etc. But the post makes it seem like some sort of grand area. It's a very small very commercial area area. Am I missing something?[/QUOTE]To me it sounded more like he was talking about Santa Fe.
[QUOTE=Zeos1;2522030]Hilarious. I've stayed in that area. It's not easy to find Zona T (in a sense) and if you found chicas there. My hat's off to you. It's a commercial area, lots of restaurants, shopping, etc. But the post makes it seem like some sort of grand area. It's a very small very commercial area area. Am I missing something?[/QUOTE]I assume he is mistaking zona the tolerancia (Santa Fe) for Zona T. And I don't doubt that the girls were happy to accept 150-200 k.
Lotsa Streetie Sweeties out-- I was in Atonis last night and there were some hot girls-- not the girl I was looking for so I hit the street again found a couple of fresh faced 18 year olds. Had a great time-- one was so friggen hot. The perfect HS fantasy girl--So hot, I went out looking for her tonight-- Did not find her so I hit this other hot spinner-- got BBBJ deep throat.
So the streets have plenty of girls. But everything gets shut down around 8-9 pm, the cops ride around with blaring sirens-- it is fuckin' stupid. I think the clubs are open late.
Is there a place in Bogota similar to Parque Lleras in MDE? Nice, relatively safe and clean, with lots of working girls and non-pros as well? Seems like Santa Fe would be too rough for me to explore on my own.
Any WG in Zona T or Zona G?
Thanks.
[QUOTE=Zeos1;2522029]A bit of a negative view. In my opinion. I think the AstraZeneca will be a good one. New strains of the virus are not likely going to negate the efficacy of most or all of the vaccines (assuming they have efficacy in the first place). And restricting flights, and movement in general, is generally helpful. Your point about youth is well taken. Stopping it there maybe should be a priority.[/QUOTE]The Ministry of Health has designed a system where the restrictions in each municipality depend on the number of free ICU beds, and start when the occupancy exceeds 50%. Here is the article on the recent occupancy, and one can easily see that top tourist / hobby areas have the most restrictions:
[URL]https://www.elpais.com.co/colombia/ocupacion-de-uci-en-es-del-73-ministerio-de-salud.html[/URL]
The general info per departments and municipalities is here: [URL]https://www.ins.gov.co/Noticias/Paginas/Coronavirus.aspx[/URL].
Maritime and land borders to be closed until March 1, 2021.
[URL]https://lorenavejarano.com/web/sede-central-bogota/[/URL]
Guaranteed results by email in 48 hrs, but they usually have them within 12 or so.
This year is especially FUBAR but.
In general.
Don't come in December or January.
Things start to get back to normal after the second Monday of January which is always a long weekend in Colombia (it's the same feast of the Epiphany but in Colombia they move it to the following Monday).
But. People slowly start trickling back into town. Its always best to wait until at last the end of January if you want to monger, especially in BOG.
Also, from Dec 8th on, people start leaving the big cities.
[QUOTE=BangoCheito;2522408][URL]https://lorenavejarano.com/web/sede-central-bogota/[/URL]
Guaranteed results by email in 48 hrs, but they usually have them within 12 or so.[/QUOTE]Thanks Bango, that is really helpful.
Do you know if they have the antigen Covid test?
[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2522334]Is there a place in Bogota similar to Parque Lleras in MDE? Nice, relatively safe and clean, with lots of working girls and non-pros as well? Seems like Santa Fe would be too rough for me to explore on my own.
Any WG in Zona T or Zona G?
Thanks.[/QUOTE]Nope. Not that I know of.
[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2522334]Is there a place in Bogota similar to Parque Lleras in MDE? Nice, relatively safe and clean, with lots of working girls and non-pros as well? Seems like Santa Fe would be too rough for me to explore on my own.
Any WG in Zona T or Zona G?
Thanks.[/QUOTE]There's nothing wrong with exploring Santa Fe by yourself. You will have tons of selections there but if you are that worried then hook up with Woodman. He knows the ropes.
There were or are a few places in the Northern area to visit.
[URL]https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?hl=en&mid=1Y7d556oDwhh_X83ZCec7ItKPaXQ&ll=4.663937013948689%2C-74.06697972026672&z=16[/URL]
[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2522334]Is there a place in Bogota similar to Parque Lleras in MDE? Nice, relatively safe and clean, with lots of working girls and non-pros as well? Seems like Santa Fe would be too rough for me to explore on my own.
Any WG in Zona T or Zona G?
Thanks.[/QUOTE]
Hello,
Anybody in Bogota this week?
Any recent review from la Celestina? Has anybody tried their venue in Chapinero.
Thanks!
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2522262]I assume he is mistaking zona the tolerancia (Santa Fe) for Zona T. And I don't doubt that the girls were happy to accept 150-200 k.[/QUOTE]Yes I was referring to Santa Fe. I am sorry for the mis-write. If I was in bargaining mode what would have been an acceptable price? I thought $40 (150 k) for Chicas time and effort was well worth the spend. However, if next time I can do better, Ill work to do better.
[QUOTE=BangoCheito;2522408][URL]https://lorenavejarano.com/web/sede-central-bogota/[/URL]
Guaranteed results by email in 48 hrs, but they usually have them within 12 or so.[/QUOTE]How much do they charge?
[QUOTE=OldSchool318;2523625]Yes I was referring to Santa Fe. I am sorry for the mis-write. If I was in bargaining mode what would have been an acceptable price? I thought $40 (150 k) for Chicas time and effort was well worth the spend. However, if next time I can do better, Ill work to do better.[/QUOTE]50 K pay no more in that area on the street. Most likely 40K will work.
[QUOTE=OldSchool318;2523625]Yes I was referring to Santa Fe. I am sorry for the mis-write. If I was in bargaining mode what would have been an acceptable price? I thought $40 (150 k) for Chicas time and effort was well worth the spend. However, if next time I can do better, Ill work to do better.[/QUOTE]On the South Stroll of Santa Fe there is young talent for 30 k ($9 USD) and room for 7 k. No problema.
[QUOTE=MongerHunger;2523809]On the South Stroll of Santa Fe there is young talent for 30 k ($9 USD) and room for 7 k. No problema.[/QUOTE]You are referring to quickee sessions, 15-20 minutes. I believe the OP is referring to longer sessions. I like doing quickees as I can bone 2-3 girls for cheap. With the right girls my quickees will last 30 minutes or so. Often there is no knock or a late knock.
If I meet a really hot girl and have a great session I often will extend and do a double quickee. Happens often!
Quickees are great as a trial basis for an outside date.
Get out there and get some good pussy!
[QUOTE=Woodman09;2524191]You are referring to quickee sessions, 15-20 minutes. I believe the OP is referring to longer sessions. I like doing quickees as I can bone 2-3 girls for cheap. With the right girls my quickees will last 30 minutes or so. Often there is no knock or a late knock.
If I meet a really hot girl and have a great session I often will extend and do a double quickee. Happens often!
Quickees are great as a trial basis for an outside date.
Get out there and get some good pussy![/QUOTE]Woodman is bang on at Fiebre, Paisas, Troya, Atonis I always start the 30 minutes upstairs. If I'm enjoying myself it's easy to extend.
[QUOTE=Woodman09;2524191]I like doing quickees as I can bone 2-3 girls for cheap. With the right girls my quickees will last 30 minutes or so. Often there is no knock or a late knock.
If I meet a really hot girl and have a great session I often will extend and do a double quickee. Happens often!
Quickees are great as a trial basis for an outside date.
Get out there and get some good pussy![/QUOTE]I like to bang multiple chicas also. I love the variety and try outside. Sometimes I do it for sport and lust. I can get burned out on one chica sometimes if it only about the sex.
[QUOTE=Woodman09;2524191]You are referring to quickee sessions, 15-20 minutes. I believe the OP is referring to longer sessions. I like doing quickees as I can bone 2-3 girls for cheap. With the right girls my quickees will last 30 minutes or so. Often there is no knock or a late knock.
If I meet a really hot girl and have a great session I often will extend and do a double quickee. Happens often!
Quickees are great as a trial basis for an outside date.
Get out there and get some good pussy![/QUOTE][QUOTE=ArmnHammer69;2524215]Woodman is bang on at Fiebre, Paisas, Troya, Atonis I always start the 30 minutes upstairs. If I'm enjoying myself it's easy to extend.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=MongerHunger;2524271]I like to bang multiple chicas also. I love the variety and try outside. Sometimes I do it for sport and lust. I can get burned out on one chica sometimes if it only about the sex.[/QUOTE]We all roll a bit different, none is 100% correct and none is 100% wrong rather just different. For me I am usually a one and done for the night kind of guy but at time like this past Sunday had 2 best friends since they were 5 yo in my apartment for 4 hours and yes I needed 2 full days to recover.
I need to get back to SF and the street cuties and the the clubs.
The Tall Man.
Hello everyone.
Looking for some guidance and understanding. Arrived to Bogota without the required Covid test. Having provided a Bogota address to Immigration, I agreed to quarantine for the 15 days or until I am tested negative.
Without the testing, am I required to sit in for the entire 15 days in Bogota, or can I fly to Cartagena for the remainder of my time. Not looking to entirely avoid the testing, but am trying to avoid the cost and time to do it twice, as I will need a fresh test before returning to USA which is very soon.
Thanks for your input.
[QUOTE=SunnyDay;2524495]Hello everyone.
Looking for some guidance and understanding. Arrived to Bogota without the required Covid test. Having provided a Bogota address to Immigration, I agreed to quarantine for the 15 days or until I am tested negative.
Without the testing, am I required to sit in for the entire 15 days in Bogota, or can I fly to Cartagena for the remainder of my time. Not looking to entirely avoid the testing, but am trying to avoid the cost and time to do it twice, as I will need a fresh test before returning to USA which is very soon.
Thanks for your input.[/QUOTE]I see that you don't understand what quarantine means and that you do not want to to follow the law of the land by trying to circumvent your situation. You need to do what is required of you. You put yourself in this situation.
[QUOTE=SunnyDay;2524495]Hello everyone.
Looking for some guidance and understanding. Arrived to Bogota without the required Covid test. Having provided a Bogota address to Immigration, I agreed to quarantine for the 15 days or until I am tested negative.
Without the testing, am I required to sit in for the entire 15 days in Bogota, or can I fly to Cartagena for the remainder of my time. Not looking to entirely avoid the testing, but am trying to avoid the cost and time to do it twice, as I will need a fresh test before returning to USA which is very soon.
Thanks for your input.[/QUOTE]Have you ever heard of a quarantine that lets you fly around to wherever you want? Because that doesn't sound like a quarantine to me.
When you leave quarantine and go to the airport to get your ticket, you will get the opportunity to talk to the police. At the minimum you will be hit with a large fine (multa) and be taken back to your quarantine location and have "you must stay here for 15 days or have a negative PCR test" explained to you again. That's if they really like you and are in a great mood. Otherwise it could be unpleasant.
[QUOTE=SunnyDay;2524495]Hello everyone.
Looking for some guidance and understanding. Arrived to Bogota without the required Covid test. Having provided a Bogota address to Immigration, I agreed to quarantine for the 15 days or until I am tested negative.
Without the testing, am I required to sit in for the entire 15 days in Bogota, or can I fly to Cartagena for the remainder of my time. Not looking to entirely avoid the testing, but am trying to avoid the cost and time to do it twice, as I will need a fresh test before returning to USA which is very soon.
Thanks for your input.[/QUOTE]No, you have to stay in the city where you arrived to do the quarantaine. If you try to travel to Cartagena, they will control your pasport again at the airport and they might easily find out you are supposed to be in quarantaine. There have been reports of foreigners being deported for similar cases. Best is to make a PCR test for example here: [URL]https://www.coronapass.com.co/.[/URL] It will cost you 60 $, but always better than staying 15 days in a closed room or being deported for not doing so.
[QUOTE=Routard;2524566]No, you have to stay in the city where you arrived to do the quarantaine. If you try to travel to Cartagena, they will control your pasport again at the airport and they might easily find out you are supposed to be in quarantaine. There have been reports of foreigners being deported for similar cases. Best is to make a PCR test for example here: [URL]https://www.coronapass.com.co/.[/URL] It will cost you 60 $, but always better than staying 15 days in a closed room or being deported for not doing so.[/QUOTE]Routard, thank you for the constructive feedback.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2524549]Have you ever heard of a quarantine that lets you fly around to wherever you want? Because that doesn't sound like a quarantine to me.
When you leave quarantine and go to the airport to get your ticket, you will get the opportunity to talk to the police. At the minimum you will be hit with a large fine (multa) and be taken back to your quarantine location and have "you must stay here for 15 days or have a negative PCR test" explained to you again. That's if they really like you and are in a great mood. Otherwise it could be unpleasant.[/QUOTE]JjBee62, also thank you for the constructive feedback.
[QUOTE=MongerHunger;2524536]I see that you don't understand what quarantine means and that you do not want to to follow the law of the land by trying to circumvent your situation. You need to do what is required of you. You put yourself in this situation.[/QUOTE]MongerHunter, I understand the general principle of a quarantine, and I have been a good boy working out of the apartment here in Bogota. I did not find any government guidance that specifically stated that I must remain at the same exact location for the 15 day period, or I may designate another location to sit it out. In the same way you have incorrectly stating that I "do not want to follow the law of the land", I will allege you have anger issues. Think about it. I posted the question seeking clarity. Maybe you might not want to prejudge so quickly.
[QUOTE=SunnyDay;2524495]Without the testing, am I required to sit in for the entire 15 days in Bogota, or can I fly to Cartagena for the remainder of my time.[/QUOTE]I would go to Cartagena. Much too cold to me in Bogota's jail versus Cartagena's.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2524607]I would go to Cartagena. Much too cold to me in Bogota's jail versus Cartagena's.[/QUOTE]Right! Good sense of humour.
[QUOTE=SunnyDay;2524593]Routard, thank you for the constructive feedback.
JjBee62, also thank you for the constructive feedback.
MongerHunter, I understand the general principle of a quarantine, and I have been a good boy working out of the apartment here in Bogota. I did not find any government guidance that specifically stated that I must remain at the same exact location for the 15 day period, or I may designate another location to sit it out. In the same way you have incorrectly stating that I "do not want to follow the law of the land", I will allege you have anger issues. Think about it. I posted the question seeking clarity. Maybe you might not want to prejudge so quickly.[/QUOTE]You truly are oblivious to the meaning of quarantine. Maybe a dictionary or some kind of revelation will help you. Angry? Who me? Naw. I'm just surprised how naive you are and uninformed. You should try to do better.
[QUOTE=SunnyDay;2524495]Hello everyone.
Looking for some guidance and understanding. Arrived to Bogota without the required Covid test. Having provided a Bogota address to Immigration, I agreed to quarantine for the 15 days or until I am tested negative.
Without the testing, am I required to sit in for the entire 15 days in Bogota, or can I fly to Cartagena for the remainder of my time. Not looking to entirely avoid the testing, but am trying to avoid the cost and time to do it twice, as I will need a fresh test before returning to USA which is very soon.
Thanks for your input.[/QUOTE]You are required to sit in for the entire 15 days in Bogota.
Anybody currently visiting Bogota? How is the situation there? Are they going to close Airport?
Any update will be helpful.
Greetings,
I'm not new to this hobby but this will be my first time in Bogota. I plan to go in late March to early April, provided it's open I wanted to know where to find women that will be into other things besides vaginal sex. Things such as golden showers. Also, are they open to being filmed? I'm willing to pay extra of course. Worst case, I could hide a camera in my room but it's so much easier if I have cooperation. Thanks to anyone that can help.
Hello ISG Members,
I would greatly appreciate referrals or an introduction to ISG members, or off board expats that are actively living and or working here in Colombia. Ideally they have been embedded enough in this country to properly enlighten me (from their perspective and understanding) on non mongering matters such as real estate, personal security, business development, education, dealing with government agencies, and even local politics. I intend to subscribe today to access the PM function. Thanks!
Registered and verified with Coinbase. When attempting to purchase BitCoin, a "Buys Not Supported" message appeared. Not certain if this was because I am in currently in Colombia or originally from the US.
Would any fellow member who is successfully set up with CoinBase and Paypal, be willing to help with the necessary transaction? If yes, let me know how to reach you considering I do not have access to PM yet.
Thanks!
[QUOTE=ScottyMarky;2524880]Anybody currently visiting Bogota? How is the situation there? Are they going to close Airport?
Any update will be helpful.[/QUOTE]Lotsa streetie sweeties during the week-- Clubs sometimes are open-- Best time is 1-8 pm, Curfew at 8 pm-- Casas may be open?
Saturday and Sunday there are a few girls everything restricted-- only take-out food curfew at 7 pm.
[QUOTE=Thegreatwb;2525088]Greetings,
I'm not new to this hobby but this will be my first time in Bogota. I plan to go in late March to early April, provided it's open I wanted to know where to find women that will be into other things besides vaginal sex. Things such as golden showers. Also, are they open to being filmed? I'm willing to pay extra of course. Worst case, I could hide a camera in my room but it's so much easier if I have cooperation. Thanks to anyone that can help.[/QUOTE]Simply negotiate this in advance, that you will film them naked as they suck and fuck you.
I was into this filming stuff about a dozen years ago nowadays I am past this but still get the urge now and again.
Now my good friend in Medellin, PolloNegro was stuck here during quarantine for nine months and gawd damn in 9 months he filmed over 500 videos, I have seen a number of them and they are off the charts, he is the King of fuck videos hehehehe.
I told him he should be selling this stuff to the porn market hehehehe.
And for anal sex, if that is what you are referring to as the other fun stuff, just check and ask around, same goes with golden showers or squirters or whatever fucking floats your boat.
Enjoy!
The Tall Man.
Interesting flurry of recent newbie posts.
[QUOTE=ScottyMarky;2524880]Anybody currently visiting Bogota? How is the situation there? Are they going to close Airport?
Any update will be helpful.[/QUOTE]Read the forums here and search for Bogota news on youtube. My general feel is that they will not close the airports, but that's my opinion only.
[QUOTE=Thegreatwb;2525088]Greetings,
I'm not new to this hobby but this will be my first time in Bogota. I plan to go in late March to early April, provided it's open I wanted to know where to find women that will be into other things besides vaginal sex. Things such as golden showers. Also, are they open to being filmed? I'm willing to pay extra of course. Worst case, I could hide a camera in my room but it's so much easier if I have cooperation. Thanks to anyone that can help.[/QUOTE]Thats a pretty dick move. But aside from that, you're asking for trouble.
[QUOTE=Kazeu;2525216]Thats a pretty dick move. But aside from that, you're asking for trouble.[/QUOTE]Well it would be for my personal collection and nothing would be shared online. Could I be punished if I got caught with a recording device in my hotel room?
[QUOTE=SunnyDay;2525125]Hello ISG Members,
I would greatly appreciate referrals or an introduction to ISG members, or off board expats that are actively living and or working here in Colombia. Ideally they have been embedded enough in this country to properly enlighten me (from their perspective and understanding) on non mongering matters such as real estate, personal security, business development, education, dealing with government agencies, and even local politics. I intend to subscribe today to access the PM function. Thanks![/QUOTE]I made a detailed FAQ about living in Colombia:
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?3863-Living-in-Colombia&p=1980490&viewfull=1[/URL]#post1980490.
[QUOTE=Routard;2525259]I made a detailed FAQ about living in Colombia:
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?3863-Living-in-Colombia&p=1980490&viewfull=1[/URL]#post1980490.[/QUOTE]Routard, thank you. I took a quick look, and it appears to cover a wide range of questions I have.
[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2525213]Simply negotiate this in advance, that you will film them naked as they suck and fuck you.
I was into this filming stuff about a dozen years ago nowadays I am past this but still get the urge now and again.
Now my good friend in Medellin, PolloNegro was stuck here during quarantine for nine months and gawd damn in 9 months he filmed over 500 videos, I have seen a number of them and they are off the charts, he is the King of fuck videos hehehehe.
I told him he should be selling this stuff to the porn market hehehehe.
And for anal sex, if that is what you are referring to as the other fun stuff, just check and ask around, same goes with golden showers or squirters or whatever fucking floats your boat.
Enjoy!
The Tall Man.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the response. When your friend did this, was it all consensual or did he have a hidden camera? In the past, asking girls to be filmed usually makes them defensive and cautious. I didn't want to ruin any good fucks.
[QUOTE=Thegreatwb;2525248]Well it would be for my personal collection and nothing would be shared online. Could I be punished if I got caught with a recording device in my hotel room?[/QUOTE]No, you will not be punished for having a recording device in your hotel room. But you might get legal issues or any other violent reaction if you use it to film somebody without his consentment.
Dude,
It's a stupid troll move to post something like that as your first or second post! Secretly filming a prostitute while you have dirty sex will get you into so much trouble.
[QUOTE=Thegreatwb;2525088]I could hide a camera in my room [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Wiild;2525429]Dude,
It's a stupid troll move to post something like that as your first or second post! Secretly filming a prostitute while you have dirty sex will get you into so much trouble.[/QUOTE]I can already tell this guy knows he's an asshole who is going to get himself in trouble no matter what we say just by the way he phrases the question: "What can I get away with in Bogota". No respect from here. If I were him I would create a new account and rephrase the question.
[QUOTE=Kazeu;2525499]I can already tell this guy knows he's an asshole who is going to get himself in trouble no matter what we say just by the way he phrases the question: "What can I get away with in Bogota". No respect from here. If I were him I would create a new account and rephrase the question.[/QUOTE]Possibly, or he's just a newbie who has the wrong idea about Colombia. Granted, "what can I get away with" is a bad way to start any conversation.
The truth is, you can get away with anything, or you can get caught. If you're trying to get away with something, the first rule is you don't ask about it, or talk about it. Don't spend 4 hours Googling "best way to rob a bank", and then expect to get away with it. Don't ask if you can get away with using a hidden camera in your room, because someone reading the board is almost certain to tell some girls they need to watch out for guys secretly filming them.
Besides being a dick move, he needs to ask himself what happens if a girl finds his hidden camera. Does she break the camera? Does she take it? Does she call the police? Or does she simply demand a bunch of money to avoid any of the above?
A few years ago a girl I knew stole a guy's phone and emptied his wallet. I learned about it and attempted to get the phone back for the guy. Basically, buy the phone off of her and return it to the owner. I'm not going into the details, but apparently there were a lot of pictures and videos on the phone, that could have caused serious legal issues for the guy. He never got his phone back.
Whatever you're into, you can find it, but you need to man up and be open about it.
Has Colombia made any exceptions to the testing and quarantine procedures for those who have been vaccinated?
[QUOTE=ShadowJ;2525600]Has Colombia made any exceptions to the testing and quarantine procedures for those who have been vaccinated?[/QUOTE]No, as no one has been vaccinated right now in Colombia, such a law that only coukld apply to foreigners would be a political mistake.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2525511]Possibly, or he's just a newbie who has the wrong idea about Colombia. Granted, "what can I get away with" is a bad way to start any conversation.
The truth is, you can get away with anything, or you can get caught. If you're trying to get away with something, the first rule is you don't ask about it, or talk about it. Don't spend 4 hours Googling "best way to rob a bank", and then expect to get away with it. Don't ask if you can get away with using a hidden camera in your room, because someone reading the board is almost certain to tell some girls they need to watch out for guys secretly filming them.
Besides being a dick move, he needs to ask himself what happens if a girl finds his hidden camera. Does she break the camera? Does she take it? Does she call the police? Or does she simply demand a bunch of money to avoid any of the above?
A few years ago a girl I knew stole a guy's phone and emptied his wallet. I learned about it and attempted to get the phone back for the guy. Basically, buy the phone off of her and return it to the owner. I'm not going into the details, but apparently there were a lot of pictures and videos on the phone, that could have caused serious legal issues for the guy. He never got his phone back.
Whatever you're into, you can find it, but you need to man up and be open about it.[/QUOTE]Thanks. I won't okay with fire and I'll just be upfront. I'm not trying to go to jail over something so trivial. I was mainly asking to see if anyone had any luck recording but maybe it just came out wrong.
[QUOTE=TheGreatWb;2525320]When your friend did this, was it all consensual or did he have a hidden camera? In the past, asking girls to be filmed usually makes them defensive and cautious. I didn't want to ruin any good fucks.[/QUOTE]FWIW, I have never had a Colombian women get upset with my video recording her. They are sex freaks and love to perform in my experience.
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2522550]Thanks Bango, that is really helpful.
Do you know if they have the antigen Covid test?[/QUOTE]Sorry for the late reply.
They have all tests you could possibly need.
[QUOTE=Routard;2525411]No, you will not be punished for having a recording device in your hotel room. But you might get legal issues or any other violent reaction if you use it to film somebody without his consentment.[/QUOTE]Colombia has some of the world's strictest revenge porn laws. Get consent RECORDED ON THE VIDEO to protect yourself.
[QUOTE=Kazeu;2525215]Interesting flurry of recent newbie posts....[/QUOTE]Opportunities for mongering have dried up world wide and there are many horny unsatisfied mongers. Word is quickly spreading about Colombia especially about the street walking scene in Santa Fe. Be prepared for an influx especially post covid.
[QUOTE=TheGreatWb;2525320]Thanks for the response. When your friend did this, was it all consensual or did he have a hidden camera? In the past, asking girls to be filmed usually makes them defensive and cautious. I didn't want to ruin any good fucks.[/QUOTE]I should have been more specific, one thousand percent he had the explicit consent of the girl and in some cases multiple girls, this was all done in his negotiation prior to him inviting them to his man cave.
And no it does not make them defensive and cautious matter-of-fact these bitches enjoy being filmed, damn you should see some of these videos, off the charts great stuff. Yes there are some that will not want them filmed on video so just move on to the next.
Now if your after anal sex, as you stated in your original post, and if this is a must I suggest that you head to Brazil as this much more common there than it is in Colombia.
The Tall Man.
Had a great time this morning. Got out there about 10 a and there was a very nice selection of fresh faced chicas-- Had a couple of good quickees and was home by 12:30.
With the 8 pm curfew on weekdays and the weekend restrictions with curfew at 7 p, the girls are out early -- I'm sure it must be fantastic about 2 pm-- I will have to swing by tomorrow.
Also on Calle 21 there are girls now extending the South stroll-- Also girls on the Calle 22 business area-- so 8+ blocks of chicas-- This is the best red-light area in the world.
Get Out There!! Get some good pussy!
Checked out the whole area today around 1 p. Very Nice and got better and better-.
When I left at around 2 p-- There was plenty of action.
Clubs are open and most likely into the night. I shoulda asked. Sorry.
- This post is intended for the newbies that plan to visit Bogota.
Subscribe to the ISG Forum, and PM Woodman09.
Met up with Woodman, had lunch and a two hour walk. He is an ex-pat, and seasoned veteran who is local to Santa Fe (RedZone / FunZone), Bogota.
All of his tips, advice and insights were well received. Definitely will save me money and grief in the future. Thank you!
[QUOTE=SunnyDay;2526735]- This post is intended for the newbies that plan to visit Bogota.
Subscribe to the ISG Forum, and PM Woodman09.
Met up with Woodman, had lunch and a two hour walk. He is an ex-pat, and seasoned veteran who is local to Santa Fe (RedZone / FunZone), Bogota.
All of his tips, advice and insights were well received. Definitely will save me money and grief in the future. Thank you![/QUOTE]What does he charge for his tour? How will his tour save you money?
[QUOTE=SunnyDay;2526735]- This post is intended for the newbies that plan to visit Bogota.
Subscribe to the ISG Forum, and PM Woodman09.
Met up with Woodman, had lunch and a two hour walk. He is an ex-pat, and seasoned veteran who is local to Santa Fe (RedZone / FunZone), Bogota.
All of his tips, advice and insights were well received. Definitely will save me money and grief in the future. Thank you![/QUOTE]Let's not make this sound like it's necessary. Some people need their hands held, while others are perfectly capable of doing it themselves. I remember my first time through SF, and had no trouble at all. In fact, I had a blast, then walked back to my hotel. Very easy. What kind of grief were you having? If there's any advice that should be handed out to newbies, it should be this: learn at least basic Spanish, and bring your common sense.
[QUOTE=NeilGeorge;2526767]What does he charge for his tour? How will his tour save you money?[/QUOTE]Because you can get right to the point and do not have to worry about reinventing the wheel.
[QUOTE=NeilGeorge;2526767]What does he charge for his tour? How will his tour save you money?[/QUOTE]NeilGeorge two good questions. As I don't know if he has a fixed price or basis the price is based on his mood and time spent, I will defer that question to be answered by Woodman09 if you decide to PM him.
There is a hustle on the street, and its slightly different in each country. Locals can see us coming from far away. For me, taking the tour with Woodman09 was like having a wingman for the first go around.
As much as I quickly read several posts, and drew my own general conclusions, the conversation we had gave me some peace of mind. Woodman09 is fellow ex-pat who is now a long time local to the scene, walking me around, pointing out the blocks where the girls are less expensive and where the girls are more. Additionally, some of his answers reinforced what was already stated here on ISG. Again all giving me peace of mind.
[QUOTE=IronQuinn;2526956]Let's not make this sound like it's necessary. Some people need their hands held, while others are perfectly capable of doing it themselves. I remember my first time through SF, and had no trouble at all. In fact, I had a blast, then walked back to my hotel. Very easy. What kind of grief were you having? If there's any advice that should be handed out to newbies, it should be this: learn at least basic Spanish, and bring your common sense.[/QUOTE]IronQuinn, it's not necessary, but if you are new to Bogota, and to fishing on the streets, than I think its great to know that you have someone to turn to, to help navigate the scene. Could I have managed on my own. Absolutely. But that comes with experience. I have no way of knowing the level of experience and common sense that most readers here on ISG have. Even among the Senior Members, I see you all debating.
In closing IronQuinn, I agree with you on the points you made: learn basic Spanish, and bring your common sense. Sadly, Spanish can be learned easier, than common sense.
There is a 1 legged plump girl that works in the stroll on Calle 18 and Carrera 13-- This is the east side of Aveneda Caracas -- this stroll has more average ladies.
1 midget working in Santa Fe yesterday. Just letting you all know.
So, now on the weekends the shutdown has relaxed. Businesses open, curfew is 10 pm.
I was out prowling, good times! Plenty of hot girls out. Clubs are open-.
Get Out there and get some good pussy!
[QUOTE=SunnyDay;2526979]NeilGeorge two good questions. As I don't know if he has a fixed price or basis the price is based on his mood and time spent, I will defer that question to be answered by Woodman09 if you decide to PM him.
There is a hustle on the street, and its slightly different in each country. Locals can see us coming from far away. For me, taking the tour with Woodman09 was like having a wingman for the first go around.
As much as I quickly read several posts, and drew my own general conclusions, the conversation we had gave me some peace of mind. Woodman09 is fellow ex-pat who is now a long time local to the scene, walking me around, pointing out the blocks where the girls are less expensive and where the girls are more. Additionally, some of his answers reinforced what was already stated here on ISG. Again all giving me peace of mind.
IronQuinn, it's not necessary, but if you are new to Bogota, and to fishing on the streets, than I think its great to know that you have someone to turn to, to help navigate the scene. Could I have managed on my own. Absolutely. But that comes with experience. I have no way of knowing the level of experience and common sense that most readers here on ISG have. Even among the Senior Members, I see you all debating.
In closing IronQuinn, I agree with you on the points you made: learn basic Spanish, and bring your common sense. Sadly, Spanish can be learned easier, than common sense.[/QUOTE]SF does not look safe so that is why I feel much safer when Woodman is around. He knows the area, he knows tons of girls and how to stay away from trouble and on top of everything he has a good sense of humour. Even if you speak perfect spanish like me having him next to you is a must. Thank you Woodman.
[QUOTE=Woodman09;2526980]There is a 1 legged plump girl that works in the stroll on Calle 18 and Carrera 13-- This is the east side of Aveneda Caracas -- this stroll has more average ladies.
1 midget working in Santa Fe yesterday. Just letting you all know.[/QUOTE]I call this area Fatty Alley.
[QUOTE=Kazeu;2527135]I call this area Fatty Alley.[/QUOTE]LOL but there ARE exceptions and those were worth the effort to find them. Right Kazeu? BTW I hooked up with that Elvis character friend of yours. He's on the fast lane 4 sure. FUN! Tijuana is just as dangerous as SF if you go more than a block away from known areas at night.
Use Woodman as much for the stories as for feeling safer.
[QUOTE=DonCarlos1234;2527385]LOL but there ARE exceptions and those were worth the effort to find them. Right Kazeu? BTW I hooked up with that Elvis character friend of yours. He's on the fast lane 4 sure. FUN! Tijuana is just as dangerous as SF if you go more than a block away from known areas at night.
Use Woodman as much for the stories as for feeling safer.[/QUOTE]Meanwhile I should post more often, See you in Bogota in March, I qualify for front line vaccine as a monger reporter.
[QUOTE=DonCarlos1234;2527385]LOL but there ARE exceptions and those were worth the effort to find them. Right Kazeu? BTW I hooked up with that Elvis character friend of yours. He's on the fast lane 4 sure. FUN! Tijuana is just as dangerous as SF if you go more than a block away from known areas at night.
Use Woodman as much for the stories as for feeling safer.[/QUOTE]Fatty Ally is a bit off the beaten path. I imagine most mongers who say they've been to santa fe, have never been to Fatty Ally. You have to cross Caracas to get to Fatty Ally. I've never seen an un-round woman in Fatty Ally.
[QUOTE=Woodman09;2527073]So, now on the weekends the shutdown has relaxed. Businesses open, curfew is 10 pm.
I was out prowling, good times! Plenty of hot girls out. Clubs are open-.
Get Out there and get some good pussy![/QUOTE]Does anyone know if Santa Fe is open tonight, including the costillaria behind Troye? No joke, that place has the juiciest meat in Bogota. I come down from the north of town if that place is open.
To all of those members that, like me are going crazy. Normally I travel to SA 5-6 times a year. My preferences have changed from Uruguay to Argentina to Columbia. I have spent time in most other SA countries. As it turns out Colombia is my favorite. For the last 2 years, I have been to several Colombia citys. Bogota is my favorite.
[QUOTE=Cm6363;2527831]Does anyone know if Santa Fe is open tonight, including the costillaria behind Troye? No joke, that place has the juiciest meat in Bogota. I come down from the north of town if that place is open.[/QUOTE]I don't know about Santa Fe, but that meat is sounding pretty tasty, Could you describe where this costillaria is a bit more exactly? And what should I order?
One of my SA girls texted me this morning to tell me that they are lifting the restrictions in Bogota as of yesterday. Can anybody confirm? Or is it just wishful thinking on both our parts?
[QUOTE=ShadowJ;2528074]One of my SA girls texted me this morning to tell me that they are lifting the restrictions in Bogota as of yesterday. Can anybody confirm? Or is it just wishful thinking on both our parts?[/QUOTE]As of 2/2/21 the curfew has been lifted according to [URL]https://www.elespectador.com/noticias/bogota/ya-no-habra-cuarentena-en-bogota-por-upz-claudia-lopez/[/URL].
[QUOTE=Kulibali;2528097]As of 2/2/21 the curfew has been lifted according to [URL]https://www.elespectador.com/noticias/bogota/ya-no-habra-cuarentena-en-bogota-por-upz-claudia-lopez/[/URL].[/QUOTE]Usually in Bogota, When the ICU count goes down, so does the restrictions. Let's hope the proof of neg. PCR goes away too.
[QUOTE=Kazeu;2528050]I don't know about Santa Fe, but that meat is sounding pretty tasty, Could you describe where this costillaria is a bit more exactly? And what should I order?[/QUOTE]There are two entrances to Troye. The one on Carrera 16 a (where all the clubs are) is at the tail end of probably what was once a garage. Inside that space is the Costilleria. Ask them for a mix. Both the pork and the steak are great. 20 or 30 mil. 20 is a lot of meat and potatoes for one person. The guacamole is great on the potatoes too.
[QUOTE=Cm6363;2528450]There are two entrances to Troye. The one on Carrera 16 a (where all the clubs are) is at the tail end of probably what was once a garage. Inside that space is the Costilleria. Ask them for a mix. Both the pork and the steak are great. 20 or 30 mil. 20 is a lot of meat and potatoes for one person. The guacamole is great on the potatoes too.[/QUOTE]Have not eaten there in a long time-- Will have to check it out-- I had thought it was average-- maybe it changed.
Since the Venezuelans have come there are some good street stands that are right in Santa Fe-- One I like is a fried empanada place right across the street from the Santa Fe Suites-- these ladies run it and actually use a store front and operate the stand on the side walk-- . 35 empanadas and a chicken beef arepa for $2-- I eat there often.
Shwarma Rey in the middle of Santa Fe on carrera 16 in the middle of the red light area is a popular place-- Gabo the owner started it as a street stand and it is now a restaurant.
Places to Eat near Santa Fe up 22nd street and Cr 7.
There is a few nice places to eat near Santa Fe-- My favorite burger place-.
Great Burgers-- beef and pork.
[URL]https://www.tripadvisor.co/Restaurant_Review-g294074-d10941639-Reviews-Cerdo_Rey_Burger-Bogota.html[/URL]
Also in same building is a giant restaurant that is excellent-- forgot the name.
LOS Torres --I eat her so often I have a preferred customer discount-- Great ribs and ternera (roast beef).
[URL]https://www.facebook.com/lostorreshornoyparrilla/[/URL]
This is more gourmet-- Excellent.
[URL]https://www.tripadvisor.com/Restaurant_Review-g294074-d1085739-Reviews-Pasteleria_Florida-Bogota.html[/URL]
Get out there and get some good pussy and than chow down.
Do most of you guys live in Colombia now?
Or are most of you guys still US Citizens (or maybe EU citizens) and just go to Colombia for 30-180 days a year?
This is great info. Thanks!
As for the meat place, I had almost forgetting there was a restaurant in the garage at the back of Troya. When I passed it tonight, I immediately realized that's what Cm6363 must have been talking about.
I did indeed get the mix for 20 k and I still have a bunch of meat left over. Tender is not how I would describe it haha. Well the pork was kinda of tender, but the beef was really chewey. Maybe it needs to be eaten right away? I got it to go and ate it when I got home.
Back to the pussy. Santa Fe was hopping tonight. It almost felt like old times.
[QUOTE=Woodman09;2528499]Have not eaten there in a long time-- Will have to check it out-- I had thought it was average-- maybe it changed.
Since the Venezuelans have come there are some good street stands that are right in Santa Fe-- One I like is a fried empanada place right across the street from the Santa Fe Suites-- these ladies run it and actually use a store front and operate the stand on the side walk-- . 35 empanadas and a chicken beef arepa for $2-- I eat there often.
Shwarma Rey in the middle of Santa Fe on carrera 16 in the middle of the red light area is a popular place-- Gabo the owner started it as a street stand and it is now a restaurant.
Places to Eat near Santa Fe up 22nd street and Cr 7.
There is a few nice places to eat near Santa Fe-- My favorite burger place-.
Great Burgers-- beef and pork.
[URL]https://www.tripadvisor.co/Restaurant_Review-g294074-d10941639-Reviews-Cerdo_Rey_Burger-Bogota.html[/URL]
Also in same building is a giant restaurant that is excellent-- forgot the name.
LOS Torres --I eat her so often I have a preferred customer discount-- Great ribs and ternera (roast beef).
[URL]https://www.facebook.com/lostorreshornoyparrilla/[/URL]
This is more gourmet-- Excellent.
[URL]https://www.tripadvisor.com/Restaurant_Review-g294074-d1085739-Reviews-Pasteleria_Florida-Bogota.html[/URL]
Get out there and get some good pussy and than chow down.[/QUOTE]
I'm planning to go to Colombia soon and I was planning to spend a few weeks in Bogota, Medellin and Cartagena, I was wondering if I have to take a covid test before each flight if I'm flying within the country or does it only apply to international flights?
[QUOTE=Kazeu;2528528]This is great info. Thanks!
As for the meat place, I had almost forgetting there was a restaurant in the garage at the back of Troya. When I passed it tonight, I immediately realized that's what Cm6363 must have been talking about.
I did indeed get the mix for 20 k and I still have a bunch of meat left over. Tender is not how I would describe it haha. Well the pork was kinda of tender, but the beef was really chewey. Maybe it needs to be eaten right away? I got it to go and ate it when I got home.[/QUOTE]You do make two good points. It is much better to eat the meat there. The best part for me about both the meat and the pork is that it is not dried out as is common in Colombia. Still, I only have a little there and get out of dodge too.
The meat can be chewy, but I will take that over dry, especially after building up a hunger.
So. Curious to know how Asian's would be viewed down there in Bogota / Medellin. As someone who is Chinese we would stick out like a sore thumb I would imagine or that isn't the case and it doesn't matter so long as you have game?
Disclaimer, I am not Asian.
With that being said, I have read many posts from Asian guys and while yes you stick out, it's not in a bad way, many people are curious and it could be a great icebreaker. Many chickas have not been with a "Chino" and you might get great service due to your uniquiness. As a side bar, all Asians, Thai, Philipino, Chinese, Korean, et all, are refered to as Chino in my experiance.
[QUOTE=SlitMan;2528808]So. Curious to know how Asian's would be viewed down there in Bogota / Medellin. As someone who is Chinese we would stick out like a sore thumb I would imagine or that isn't the case and it doesn't matter so long as you have game?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=SlitMan;2528808]So. Curious to know how Asian's would be viewed down there in Bogota / Medellin. As someone who is Chinese we would stick out like a sore thumb I would imagine or that isn't the case and it doesn't matter so long as you have game?[/QUOTE]There are actually many Asian immigrants here-.
Some girls say the Chino name when Asians walk around Santa Fe. That's about it-- the bigger issue is language and your state of mind walking around.
If you look ill at ease you draw more attention to yourself. I actually am half Asian but appear Latino sorta like Dean Cain -- I'm a fake Latino, LOL.
[QUOTE=SlitMan;2528808]So. Curious to know how Asian's would be viewed down there in Bogota / Medellin. As someone who is Chinese we would stick out like a sore thumb I would imagine or that isn't the case and it doesn't matter so long as you have game?[/QUOTE]Every time I go to Medellin I meet and hangout with at least 2 new people who are Asian. Most of them have been to Colombia several times and seem to have a great time. I've never seen anyone treat any of them different than they treat me.
You won't need game, money is an acceptable substitute.
[QUOTE=SlitMan;2528808]So. Curious to know how Asian's would be viewed down there in Bogota / Medellin. As someone who is Chinese we would stick out like a sore thumb I would imagine or that isn't the case and it doesn't matter so long as you have game?[/QUOTE]Disclaimer: I am asian.
Like some have said before. Yes you will stick out. Yes I get chino everytime I walk around Santa Fe. I also pretty frequently get the kung fu Hay yah! Take it in stride and enjoy the time in Colombia. . In nicer areas, I don't get any stares or anything (At least I haven't noticed). I'm just some guy who happens to be Asian.
When it comes to the women. The USA is the absolute worst place on earth to be Asian. Unless you're one of those Asians that look white. Anywhere else is better. No where else in the world have I felt so invisible to women as I do in the USA. It only took me 30 years to realize what a shitty place is it for asians. I've never been happier since I left and always dread going back.
In Colombia, there's a certain level of fascination with asians as many colombianas have not been with asian guys. I frequently get comments on how smooth my skin is. I have met 2 other asian mongers in Colombia and they have no troubles.
How good is your spanish? If you don't speak spanish, there's a pretty good chance your american "game" will not translate into Colombian "game".
Good luck! Have fun! Hit me up if you're in Bogota in the next 2 months.
Wow it's been a long time since I posted. Not to be confused with inactivity I've spent most of the last 5 years in Asia. I would never consider going any place else. Then came Covid. So now I am trying SA. I'll be arriving in Bogata Tuesday. I've been through all the threads collecting info. If any one can advise where I can find a nice Private house or apt near the Tzone I would be forever grateful. I've been through Abnb. Not much there. Also, if anyone else is going to be in Bogota next week. I'd be interested in having a wingman. I'm expecting a much different, more dangerous environment than in Asia. I m all ears on any advise you might offer.
[QUOTE=W20415;2529095]Wow it's been a long time since I posted. Not to be confused with inactivity I've spent most of the last 5 years in Asia. I would never consider going any place else. Then came Covid. So now I am trying SA. I'll be arriving in Bogata Tuesday. I've been through all the threads collecting info. If any one can advise where I can find a nice Private house or apt near the Tzone I would be forever grateful. I've been through Abnb. Not much there. Also, if anyone else is going to be in Bogota next week. I'd be interested in having a wingman. I'm expecting a much different, more dangerous environment than in Asia. I m all ears on any advise you might offer.[/QUOTE]Definitely 1,000 percent PM Woodman, I here so much good stuff about him, let him show you around just for the fact you will make a friend, I bet he even can tell you places to stay, then when their have lunch with him and on tour with him! I've never met yet.
I've to to Bogota before and if go again I will definitely meet him, good luck have fun, stay safe!
American Airlines started a program called Verify that will allow you to upload your Covid Test results prior to checking and boarding international flights via an app.
[URL]http://news.aa.com/news/news-details/2021/American-Airlines-Is-First-US-Airline-to-Introduce-Health-Passport-for-All-International-Travel-to-US-OPS-DIS-01/[/URL]
I suspect other airlines will be doing the same.
I'll give it a try before my Bogota flight this Thursday and report back. I've been to Medellin and Cartagena. I was suppose to go Barranquilla this month, but with the recent lockdowns and the airline giving me the option to get a credit I took it as a sign from the Monger Gods to head to Bogota instead.
Big fan of the site. Been reading the different forums (DR, Thailand, Colombia) for years and finally got an account. Thanks for all the info and funny ass stories. Y'all are a bunch of interesting fuckers, figuratively and literally. My kind of people. Hopefully I can hook up with Woodman for a day or two starting Thursday once I get my subscription situation sorted and can PM. Bitcoin is a bit of a mystery to me.
I usually pretty good at using the info and figuring out the rest on my own and even stumbling along the way. But I've decided to do things a little different this time by hanging with Woodman hopefully. After that I'm goog to go. To quote Mark Wahlberg in The Other Guys "I'm a peacock. You got to let me fly".
I tried the empanada place across from Santa Fe suites today. Very tasty! And cheap to boot. Its was a bit hard to find since there is no signage. I think the street number is 22 a-06. I also tried King Shwarma and realized I had tried it before. I definitely remember the stand, it used to be at the end of the street. I was wondering where it had gone. Thanks for the info!
[QUOTE=Woodman09;2528499]Have not eaten there in a long time-- Will have to check it out-- I had thought it was average-- maybe it changed.
Since the Venezuelans have come there are some good street stands that are right in Santa Fe-- One I like is a fried empanada place right across the street from the Santa Fe Suites-- these ladies run it and actually use a store front and operate the stand on the side walk-- . 35 empanadas and a chicken beef arepa for $2-- I eat there often.
Shwarma Rey in the middle of Santa Fe on carrera 16 in the middle of the red light area is a popular place-- Gabo the owner started it as a street stand and it is now a restaurant.
Places to Eat near Santa Fe up 22nd street and Cr 7.
There is a few nice places to eat near Santa Fe-- My favorite burger place-.
Great Burgers-- beef and pork.
[URL]https://www.tripadvisor.co/Restaurant_Review-g294074-d10941639-Reviews-Cerdo_Rey_Burger-Bogota.html[/URL]
Also in same building is a giant restaurant that is excellent-- forgot the name.
LOS Torres --I eat her so often I have a preferred customer discount-- Great ribs and ternera (roast beef).
[URL]https://www.facebook.com/lostorreshornoyparrilla/[/URL]
This is more gourmet-- Excellent.
[URL]https://www.tripadvisor.com/Restaurant_Review-g294074-d1085739-Reviews-Pasteleria_Florida-Bogota.html[/URL]
Get out there and get some good pussy and than chow down.[/QUOTE]
So after the Shwarma I was walking around and noticed a cute chica I had been eyeing earlier on. Earlier she had a guy in tow so I didn't bother talking to her. But here she was hangin out in the entrance to a short time hotel. This was at the southern end of Carrera 15. On the southeastern side, just before Carerra 15 hits Calle 22. She was wearing short shorts and a halter top and had a tattoo right between her tits. What got me was how cute she was. Her body was okay, not my usual type, but it looked well proportioned. I had thought she was going with that guy I had seen her with before so I was a bit surprised to see her available. I immediately walked up to her and got the basic information. 20 year old. No kids. How much? Her friend was with her talking her up and basically representing her. Her friend said 36. To which I replied: "Lets go" But then she looked a bit dissapointed. Apparently it was a mistake her friend had priced her too low. Apparently she wanted 50. I countered with 40. Which she accepted. I gave her a 50 k note. She pleaded with me to give her 50 k. I said no, its 40 k. She went to go pay at the office. She did not get any change back. When we got to the room, I asked her for my change. Which she said there was none. WTF. How am I getting my change. What was strange about this girl was her personality. It almost seemed like she was a bit high. Quite possibly. She kept talking in rhymes. She had started to undress and I could see that her body was not as nice as I thought. She said she had no kids, but her breasts were certainly deflated a bit. No stretch marks on her stomach though. So back to the change. At this point, I was having second thoughts about the whole affair. And I insisted I get my change. She said I would get my 4 k after. She said the office did not have change but wrote down that she what she was owed. She tried to assure me that I would get my change, but her tone was quite aggressive. It was starting to piss me off, how am I going to get my change, I'm not going to stick around to wait for change after the session. Also, I never said I would pay for the room. My change should have been 10 k. At this point I really just wanted to call it off, she wasn't as good looking as I thought and she was a bit bitchy and I thought she was trying to pull a fast one on me with my change. I debated what I should do. I decided screw it. Lets just get this over with.
So I was in a shitty mood when she started to give me a covered blowjob. It was taking me a while to get it up. But it was slowly awakening. To help out a bit I told her to get into doggie position, just the view from this angle helps me get in the mood. So I'm stroking myself with the condom on after a few minutes am hard enough to enter. Suddenly she turns around and starts telling me not to break the condom and she's trying to readjust the condom on my dick. WTF. She thought that my stroking over the condom was going to cause it to break somehow. I got the feeling that she thought I was stroking with the intention of weakening the condom so that it would break. In the 30 seconds that it took for her to fiddle with the condom on my dick and make sure it was okay. My dick was soft again. What a fucking boner killer. All the kings men couldn't make my dick hard again. Or so I thought. I told her, it's not going to happen. I thought she would be happy. She gets paid, doesn't have to do any work. As I got out of bed and started putting my clothes on she got up looking upset started saying what's going on? I assured her that I would still pay her. But she still was clearly upset. This girl was wierd. Anyone else would be happy. She laid in bed with her arms folded across her chest. I said ok ok, lets try again. She showed me her ass again and slowly worked my dick up upright. When I was hard enough, I fucked her in missionary, doggie and then back to missionary. The actual sex was pretty quick. I just wanted to get it over with. Two things annoyed me during the sex. During doggie, she wouldn't keep her ass in position, she kept pushing her ass against mine so that I couldn't pull back to thrust. Also, at the end when I was just about to cum, she put her hands underneath her legs and pushed me away so that I couldn't fully thrust into her.
Anyways, after pulling out, she literally stood up and clapped. Hahaha. I don't know. This girl was wierd. She asked me for a Boncafe, I don't know what that is, but she said it was 2 k. I told her my change was hers.
Her name is Catalina and I was surprised to learn that she's from medellin. It was only her 5th day in Bogota and her first day working in Santa Fe. I'm curious to know what other people think of her. Give her a shot.
Face: High 7. (7. 8).
Body: 6. 8.
Attitude: Not sure.
WIR: No (Too Crazy for me).
[QUOTE=Kazeu;2529093]Disclaimer: I am asian.
Like some have said before. Yes you will stick out. Yes I get chino everytime I walk around Santa Fe. I also pretty frequently get the kung fu Hay yah! Take it in stride and enjoy the time in Colombia. . In nicer areas, I don't get any stares or anything (At least I haven't noticed). I'm just some guy who happens to be Asian.
When it comes to the women. The USA is the absolute worst place on earth to be Asian. Unless you're one of those Asians that look white. Anywhere else is better. No where else in the world have I felt so invisible to women as I do in the USA. It only took me 30 years to realize what a shitty place is it for asians. I've never been happier since I left and always dread going back.
In Colombia, there's a certain level of fascination with asians as many colombianas have not been with asian guys. I frequently get comments on how smooth my skin is. I have met 2 other asian mongers in Colombia and they have no troubles.
How good is your spanish? If you don't speak spanish, there's a pretty good chance your american "game" will not translate into Colombian "game".
Good luck! Have fun! Hit me up if you're in Bogota in the next 2 months.[/QUOTE]Well I'm not from the USA but from Canada. I'm a CBC. Canadian Born Asian. I've mongered in Europe where my work travels brought me. I'm just starting to do research for when I head down to Bogota for work late Summer. My Spanish is next to none but I'm going to start taking lessons.
I take it you live down in Bogota Kazeu?
Will let you and other peeps know when I'm headed down there. Would be nice to hook up with people who can show me around or tag team for a night out for some drinks amongst other things.
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[QUOTE=Kazeu;2529093]... No where else in the world have I felt so invisible to women as I do in the USA....[/QUOTE]Drive a Lamborghini Huracan Performante, wear expensive clothes and a Rolex and you will become most visible to women.
[QUOTE=MistaDynamite;2529268]American Airlines started a program called Verify that will allow you to upload your Covid Test results prior to checking and boarding international flights via an app.
[URL]http://news.aa.com/news/news-details/2021/American-Airlines-Is-First-US-Airline-to-Introduce-Health-Passport-for-All-International-Travel-to-US-OPS-DIS-01/[/URL]
I suspect other airlines will be doing the same.
I'll give it a try before my Bogota flight this Thursday and report back. I've been to Medellin and Cartagena. I was suppose to go Barranquilla this month, but with the recent lockdowns and the airline giving me the option to get a credit I took it as a sign from the Monger Gods to head to Bogota instead.
Big fan of the site. Been reading the different forums (DR, Thailand, Colombia) for years and finally got an account. Thanks for all the info and funny ass stories. Y'all are a bunch of interesting fuckers, figuratively and literally. My kind of people. Hopefully I can hook up with Woodman for a day or two starting Thursday once I get my subscription situation sorted and can PM. Bitcoin is a bit of a mystery to me.
I usually pretty good at using the info and figuring out the rest on my own and even stumbling along the way. But I've decided to do things a little different this time by hanging with Woodman hopefully. After that I'm goog to go. To quote Mark Wahlberg in The Other Guys "I'm a peacock. You got to let me fly".[/QUOTE]Looks like a lot of people are having problems using the verifly app from difficulty to use to providing requested information. I'll just print my PCR test results and bring with me to the airport. The lab that handles the test now allows me to access my results directly.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2529530]Drive a Lamborghini Huracan Performante, wear expensive clothes and a Rolex and you will become most visible to women.[/QUOTE]
Probably true, but chances are if I did have a Lamborghini Huracan Performante, wear expensive clothes and a Rolex I don't I would be hanging around on this board.
Or you know, you could just be an average looking white guy. Most white men really do not understand just how lucky they are in the competition for women.
[QUOTE=Kazeu;2529367]So after the Shwarma I was walking around and noticed a cute chica I had been eyeing earlier on. Earlier she had a guy in tow so I didn't bother talking to her. But here she was hangin out in the entrance to a short time hotel. This was at the southern end of Carrera 15. On the southeastern side, just before Carerra 15 hits Calle 22. She was wearing short shorts and a halter top and had a tattoo right between her tits. What got me was how cute she was. Her body was okay, not my usual type, but it looked well proportioned. I had thought she was going with that guy I had seen her with before so I was a bit surprised to see her available. I immediately walked up to her and got the basic information. 20 year old. No kids. How much? Her friend was with her talking her up and basically representing her. Her friend said 36. To which I replied: "Lets go" But then she looked a bit dissapointed. Apparently it was a mistake her friend had priced her too low. Apparently she wanted 50. I countered with 40. Which she accepted. I gave her a 50 k note. She pleaded with me to give her 50 k. I said no, its 40 k. She went to go pay at the office. She did not get any change back. When we got to the room, I asked her for my change. Which she said there was none. WTF. How am I getting my change. What was strange about this girl was her personality. It almost seemed like she was a bit high. Quite possibly. She kept talking in rhymes. She had started to undress and I could see that her body was not as nice as I thought. She said she had no kids, but her breasts were certainly deflated a bit. No stretch marks on her stomach though. So back to the change. At this point, I was having second thoughts about the whole affair..[/QUOTE]Hey Kazeu,
Will you be in town later in the week?
Has anyone been to any of the swinger clubs? I've never been to one and want to see it for myself. I have a couple of buddies that have been to 1 or 2 back in the States that are interested in what they are like. It's part curiosity, part fuckit list, and part recon.
[QUOTE=RacShack;2529141]Definitely 1,000 percent PM Woodman, I here so much good stuff about him, let him show you around just for the fact you will make a friend, I bet he even can tell you places to stay, then when their have lunch with him and on tour with him! I've never met yet.
I've to to Bogota before and if go again I will definitely meet him, good luck have fun, stay safe![/QUOTE]Thanks for the recommendation. Seems to be the common consensus.
[QUOTE=Kazeu;2529358]I tried the empanada place across from Santa Fe suites today. Very tasty! And cheap to boot. Its was a bit hard to find since there is no signage. I think the street number is 22 a-06. I also tried King Shwarma and realized I had tried it before. I definitely remember the stand, it used to be at the end of the street. I was wondering where it had gone. Thanks for the info![/QUOTE]Yes, the empanadas are so good-- you could get fat and the Areapas for $5 or 6 mil super good-- super cheap And that is the correct address on Carrera 16-- here is a photo.
Also the Caldo de Costilla at Alaska bakery on Calle 23 ID awesome-- Hopefully I uploaded these photos correctly.
[QUOTE=MistaDynamite;2529555]Hey Kazeu,
Will you be in town later in the week?[/QUOTE]Yes. I will be in town for a while. Get a membership and send me a private message.
Just was passing through, definitely some smoking hot Streetie sweeties tonight -- got a little busy, shot this photo on the way out.
[QUOTE=MistaDynamite;2529640]Has anyone been to any of the swinger clubs? I've never been to one and want to see it for myself. I have a couple of buddies that have been to 1 or 2 back in the States that are interested in what they are like. It's part curiosity, part fuckit list, and part recon.[/QUOTE]You will have a complete description of Bogota's swinger scene in my Bogota FAQ:
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?3865-Bogota-FAQ&p=2241562&viewfull=1[/URL]#post2241562.
The report is from before Covid however. Most swinger clubs are open again, but expect a slow atmosphere.
[QUOTE=Kazeu;2529367]. All the kings men couldn't make my dick hard again. Or so I thought. I told her, it's not going to happen. I thought she would be happy. She gets paid, doesn't have to do any work. As I got out of bed and started putting my clothes on she got up looking upset started saying what's going on? I assured her that I would still pay her. But she still was clearly upset. This girl was wierd. Anyone else would be happy.).[/QUOTE]Ha. Always enjoy a good story. Not so weird about her being disappointed tho when You went to bag it. A lot of girls it's a point of pride that they get a guy off and not being able to do so is a real ego blow.
Twice when I've gone to finish by hand I've bruised girls egos. Once in Russia after I came by my own hand and her on BLS (love that) she looked like she was going to cry. I thought I blew on her face or something but she was just so apologetic for me having to finish by hand.
Best was at Artemis in Berlin. After fucking my fourth girl in a five hour stretch I was having trouble finishing and went to grab and finish by hand. She literally swatted my hand away and said in her cute Romanian accent "No! I will keel you!" LOL. So I let her get back to business and she finished me, running ten minutes past our 30 min time. Afterwards she said "No more fucking for you tonight!" But she was sweet about it.
I had a Seeking Arrangement date this past Saturday. Her name was Luna (not her real name).
We had initially gotten in touch in late December and recently reconnected on whatsapp at the end of January. Going just by her pictures on SA, I would have given her a high 8 just short of a 9.
Went thought the usual talk of what are you looking for etc etc. Basic shit. Don't want a commitment, just want to fuck. She asked how much I would pay her, and I told her that I don't decide that until we see each other, which she respected and did not push the subject any further. I should have stuck with my rule of not bothering with anyone who asks how much up front, but sometimes you got to see where the other road leads. We schedule a video call and she looks decent on video, I would downgrade her face to a 7. 5 after seeing her on video though. She seemed really nice said the same about me. Made the date for Saturday.
We met up at a Juan Valdez nearby and sat down with some drinks and a snack. Conversation was fine. Not an immediate connection, but still smooth. I asked her how old she was: 26. Ah, not a newbie. Been in the game a while. She told me of her past "Arrangements". She had had one guy from Spain and another guy from Canada. No pricing was mentioned. I showed her some pictures of my other SA dates. One picture was of my SA date hugging her mom and she assumed I was dating the mom! Hahah. When I told her I was dating the daughter, she scoffed disapprovingly. Finished up our food and she asked what I would like to do. I suggested we go back to my place for some drinks. She agreed.
Back at my place, we drank some whiskey and talked more. There was a lot of talking. To be honest about shit I don't care about. LOL. At the 2 HR mark of the date, and a couple of whiskeys in, it finally came to the price. I told her I usually pay 200. She says she usually charges 400. She was not worth 400 ever. In my book. In person, I would rate her a high 7. It was only in person that I could see she had fake boobs and her ass was not as nice as it was in the pictures. And her skin not as smooth as I usually like. The whiskey in me whispered in my ear. She's already there. At your place! I said I could go up to 250. She said 300. I asked to see some of her photos again from her profile so I could see pictures of her body. She one upped me and offered to take off her clothes right there. Bonus! To be honest, she wasn't even worth 300. But the power of alcohol and horniness got the better of me. I confirmed with her that I'd at least get 2 shots out of this. Yep. Okay 300. Let just do this. Maybe she would be incredible in bed.
Sex was fine. Not amzaing. Won't go into too much detail. But I did have moments during the sex where I thought to myself. Is this really worth 300? I just had a santa fe chica the night before that was super sweet for 50 k. Or was she sweet because it was 50 k? First shot was good. When it came to the second shot, it took a few attempts. The second time is always harder. But finally got it done. I can't say 2nd shots are ever really that great for me. Kind of like someone offering you a 2nd pizza for free when you've just eaten a whole pizza. Sure I guess I'll have it because its there! Who refuses free pizza!? But the end, you don't really feel any more fulfilled.
We shower up and I tell her I got shit to do, she needs to go. All in all the date cost me 300 k + 20 k coffee. 320 k for 2 shots with a rather sly 26 yo 7. 8.
I went into SA looking for real hotties, but what I've found is that the ones that look really hot in the pictures on SA are mostly hardcore. This girl was really no better than what you can get in SF for much cheaper. Although she did spend a long time with me maybe 4 hrs or so. But I'm starting to realize that I don't really need 4 hours. I don't want to talk to some girl making chit chat for that long and I'm not really a multiple shooter. I shoot one good time and the usual feeling of wanting to be as far away from the person I've shot my load into waves over me. So 4 hours at 300 k ends up being 75 k / HR, I guess that's a deal if you really enjoy the dating aspect of it.
The one positive of SA is that I've never been upcharged for anything. Alway BBBJ. Covered sex, but I prefer it that way.
In summary, I'm glad I stopped paying for SA last month and no more 26 year olds. I'll stick to more newbie 18 to 20 yo.
[QUOTE=Woodman09;2529675]Yes, the empanadas are so good-- you could get fat and the Areapas for $5 or 6 mil super good-- super cheap And that is the correct address on Carrera 16-- here is a photo.
Also the Caldo de Costilla at Alaska bakery on Calle 23 ID awesome-- Hopefully I uploaded these photos correctly.[/QUOTE]Are those the arepas you can get freshly made on the grill w the white cheese on top or inside? There was an arepa spot in Centro Medellin right across from the Atlantic train Station I like going to in the mornings. I put some of the sweet white sauce on top and then drink some coffee at a old skool (as in no milk ever) cafe that gives Tango lessons.
[QUOTE=Woodman09;2529678]Just was passing through, definitely some smoking hot Streetie sweeties tonight -- got a little busy, shot this photo on the way out.[/QUOTE]I just arrived in Bogota for the first time an hour ago. Can you give the street where you took the pic. I'm staying at Grand Park tonite but will change tomorrow. I really need some specific directions on where the action is. I took a walk but started pouring and I went back to the motel. Any help you can offer would be appreciated on how I can locate the right area. If you know of a driver for hire at a reasonable price. That would help.
[QUOTE=W20415;2529968]I just arrived in Bogota for the first time an hour ago. Can you give the street where you took the pic. I'm staying at Grand Park tonite but will change tomorrow. I really need some specific directions on where the action is. I took a walk but started pouring and I went back to the motel. Any help you can offer would be appreciated on how I can locate the right area. If you know of a driver for hire at a reasonable price. That would help.[/QUOTE]Why not just pm him, and let him show you around, he has tons and tons of great information on city,.
[QUOTE=Kazeu;2529677]Yes. I will be in town for a while. Get a membership and send me a private message.[/QUOTE]Waiting for coinbase to transfer money from my bank so I can get transfer it to my bitcoin wallet to then take care of the membership. It's like watching paint dry. Would have liked to pay by credit card and been done with it.
[QUOTE=W20415;2529968]I just arrived in Bogota for the first time an hour ago. Can you give the street where you took the pic. I'm staying at Grand Park tonite but will change tomorrow. I really need some specific directions on where the action is. I took a walk but started pouring and I went back to the motel. Any help you can offer would be appreciated on how I can locate the right area. If you know of a driver for hire at a reasonable price. That would help.[/QUOTE]Just hop in a taxi and say La Piscina or put La Piscina in when you order an Uber.
[QUOTE=Steve9696;2529829]Ha. Always enjoy a good story. Not so weird about her being disappointed tho when You went to bag it. A lot of girls it's a point of pride that they get a guy off and not being able to do so is a real ego blow.
Twice when I've gone to finish by hand I've bruised girls egos. Once in Russia after I came by my own hand and her on BLS (love that) she looked like she was going to cry. I thought I blew on her face or something but she was just so apologetic for me having to finish by hand.
Best was at Artemis in Berlin. After fucking my fourth girl in a five hour stretch I was having trouble finishing and went to grab and finish by hand. She literally swatted my hand away and said in her cute Romanian accent "No! I will keel you!" LOL. So I let her get back to business and she finished me, running ten minutes past our 30 min time. Afterwards she said "No more fucking for you tonight!" But she was sweet about it.[/QUOTE]Ditto on the bruised egos. I was with a sexy fit thick chica in DR after a session with a different chica about an HR before. We were having fun and did a couple of positions. I got tired of pumping doggy style and pulled a Roberto Duran and said no mas. She looked over her shoulder at me and said bullshit. All I could do was laugh.
[QUOTE=Routard;2529821]You will have a complete description of Bogota's swinger scene in my Bogota FAQ:
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?3865-Bogota-FAQ&p=2241562&viewfull=1[/URL]#post2241562.
The report is from before Covid however. Most swinger clubs are open again, but expect a slow atmosphere.[/QUOTE]Thanks. Wow you really provided great detail. A nice read so far.
Before I boarded the flight to Miami American had me take off my bandana and gave me a face mask. On the flight to Bogota now. They didn't say a word about my bandana. At least they didn't mess w my cowboy hat LOL.
[QUOTE=MistaDynamite;2530482]Before I boarded the flight to Miami American had me take off my bandana and gave me a face mask. On the flight to Bogota now. They didn't say a word about my bandana.[/QUOTE]Which carrier did you fly to Bogota on? Earlier this month, the president of the USA signed an order:
"They (travelers) must wear a face mask that fits snuggly across their nose and their mouth, they need to [B]make sure its not a gaiter or a bandana[/B] that in fact it can even be homemade or surgical cloth mask all of those work. "
The order went into effect February 1, 2021 at 11:59 EST and is expected to last until May 11,2021.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2530508]Which carrier did you fly to Bogota on? Earlier this month, the president of the USA signed an order:
"They (travelers) must wear a face mask that fits snuggly across their nose and their mouth, they need to [B]make sure its not a gaiter or a bandana[/B] that in fact it can even be homemade or surgical cloth mask all of those work. "
The order went into effect February 1, 2021 at 11:59 EST and is expected to last until May 11,2021.[/QUOTE]American. On the flight to Bogota they gave me a mask. I saw the order and packed some masks. Figured since they offered I'd use theirs. Just being fashionable w my bandana LOL.
It's fucking awesome. You fellas did not over sell it. Went there finally last night. Lots of energy. I was at Pussy House earlier and it was nowhere near as exciting. Maybe it was early. Atonis had lots of sexy chicas. Everybody was having a good time. The 2 oldest strippers in the club sat w me and tried to get me to go upstairs. One of them was really trying to close the deal by taking off her jeans to give me a lap dance. This young dude was looking at me like wait wait wtf LOL. I like my silver foxes but that wasn't happening on my first night at atonis. After they went their way had some I had a drink with another young chica while checking out the scene. I saw so many different types of chicas that could fit whatever I had a taste for. And then I was sad because I immediately thought not enough time to fuck you all. There was an older business man probably about 60 hanging with his buddies at the end of the stage partying their asses off. That's what I want to be doing when I hit that age. In the meantime I grabbed another chica and went upstairs later for a wild and fun session. When I got back to my airbnb I slept good.
[QUOTE=MistaDynamite;2529540]Looks like a lot of people are having problems using the verifly app from difficulty to use to providing requested information. I'll just print my PCR test results and bring with me to the airport. The lab that handles the test now allows me to access my results directly.[/QUOTE]Other than the app crashing one time when I tried to put in my flight to Colombia info it worked great. Make sure you're covid test you upload has your sex and DOB United States is listed as Estados Unidos. I didn't have any problems when I showed the app to the agent at American in Miami. 3 or the 4 steps were verified. The Travel Authorization was still pending but I showed her the Colombian Migration registration email. The only thing that took look was them verifying the email I forwarded to them from Colombia migration to complete the travel authorization part of the app. They say do it 24 hours but you probably can do it 48 hours before. It finally completed after I got to Bogota LOL. But I printed 2 copies. When you're waiting in the customs line a person will ask for it and your covid test results, mark it return it to you. The customs agent will also ask for the covid test and Colombian migration email.
When did you got there? It is supposedly closed at the moment?
Just curious as I am in Bogota.
[QUOTE=MistaDynamite;2531081]It's fucking awesome. You fellas did not over sell it. Went there finally last night. Lots of energy. I was at Pussy House earlier and it was nowhere near as exciting. Maybe it was early. Atonis had lots of sexy chicas. Everybody was having a good time. The 2 oldest strippers in the club sat w me and tried to get me to go upstairs. One of them was really trying to close the deal by taking off her jeans to give me a lap dance. This young dude was looking at me like wait wait wtf LOL. I like my silver foxes but that wasn't happening on my first night at atonis. After they went their way had some I had a drink with another young chica while checking out the scene. I saw so many different types of chicas that could fit whatever I had a taste for. And then I was sad because I immediately thought not enough time to fuck you all. There was an older business man probably about 60 hanging with his buddies at the end of the stage partying their asses off. That's what I want to be doing when I hit that age. In the meantime I grabbed another chica and went upstairs later for a wild and fun session. When I got back to my airbnb I slept good.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=MistaDynamite;2531081]It's fucking awesome. You fellas did not over sell it. Went there finally last night. Lots of energy. I was at Pussy House earlier and it was nowhere near as exciting. Maybe it was early. Atonis had lots of sexy chicas. Everybody was having a good time. The 2 oldest strippers in the club sat w me and tried to get me to go upstairs. One of them was really trying to close the deal by taking off her jeans to give me a lap dance. This young dude was looking at me like wait wait wtf LOL. I like my silver foxes but that wasn't happening on my first night at atonis. After they went their way had some I had a drink with another young chica while checking out the scene. I saw so many different types of chicas that could fit whatever I had a taste for. And then I was sad because I immediately thought not enough time to fuck you all. There was an older business man probably about 60 hanging with his buddies at the end of the stage partying their asses off. That's what I want to be doing when I hit that age. In the meantime I grabbed another chica and went upstairs later for a wild and fun session. When I got back to my airbnb I slept good.[/QUOTE]Yes, Atonis is so fun. As I have written before-- Atonis is my favorite bar- So wonderfully sleazy- I love the girls there-.
They get the hot new girls. I love it when there are a bunch of hot girls to pick from. You can get harcore lapdances for $5.
I have a special girl there who shall remain nameless as she is busy enough and I don't like it-.
*Nothing I can do about that-- But I will not facilitate, even though that is what I'm doing here I suppose.
*She is a 20 yo 5 ft sex bomb with natural double the boobs-- Beautiful face and fun attitude-- Looks like a Hot college co-ed *And we get a long great. She likes my dick a lot too-- She says I have a big big gringo dick-- Which I have heard from other girls-- Which leads me to believe that guys around here must be small as I'm sorta average but a better average.
Another great bar is Venus for the same reasons, also La Casona is another. Of course when things are happening all the clubs are good.
I have some funny stories I must recount later. I'm just so frigging busy working on line that it's hard to take the time.
Hey dude-a-rinos.
Long (ish) time lurker here, first time poster. Excited to check out Bogota soon. Just wanted to ask a question about what to expect. My last two trips were to Brazil and I stayed in Sao Paulo for a bit. I found that a lot of the girls there pretty wild in the sheets. Like obviously there's going to be some girls more wild than others but on average, the mileage was pretty high and a lot of them seemed to genuinely enjoy having sex and they would kiss and give unwrapped blowjays without me having to ask, which I found really hot. The only thing I found sub-optimal is that the city is so damn big and the scene is spread out pretty evenly over the city and none of it is really out in the open, so there is a lot of time lost planning and commuting, and time is money when you're on a trip.
Bogota appeals to me because of the number of options in a dense area. Santa Fe looks like a wonderland where everything is very exposed. There's really something to be said about tolerated zones, they're exciting. But then outside of Santa Fe there seems to be a lot going on without having to venture too far.
The only thing is I am worried that Brazil has spoiled me and if I'm going to have more mechanical experiences than not. The more I look into it, it seems like the prepaids don't offer stuff like BBBJ and if they do they charge extra. I'm not so worried about the extra cost, more so the notion that if it's on a menu as an extra, the implication is that the service will feel more mechanical and less organic. Is there really such a cultural difference between Brazil and Colombia in their views of sex, or am I assuming too much based on some ads I saw. I don't mind talking a bit of shop beforehand and offering a bit extra to establish expectations, it does spoil the mood a bit but not as much as a mechanical session. But in your experiences, how does mileage in Colombia compare to Brazil all things considered?
Another quick question is I've noticed that the Medellin forum is a lot more popular than the Bogota forum, which I find surprising just because Medellin doesn't have a tolerated zone like Bogota. What do you guys think of Medellin? Any theories as to why that forum is so much more popular? I know it seems like I'm on the fence here but I'm not. I definitely want to go to Bogota and I'm not looking to be talked out of it, I just want some perspective.
Last question, I know this has been talked about to death, but I'm thinking about staying at the San Francisco hotel right in Santa Fe a few blocks east of the action. Just how dangerous would it be to walk those couple blocks at night with little to no valuables? Is there any safe strategy for going to Santa Fe at night? I've heard that the danger factor is over-hyped unless you're making yourself an easy target, but I've also heard that it's not.
Thanks bros, sorry if my questions suck.
[QUOTE=Talkyes;2532471]Hey dude-a-rinos.
The only thing is I am worried that Brazil has spoiled me and if I'm going to have more mechanical experiences than not. The more I look into it, it seems like the prepaids don't offer stuff like BBBJ and if they do they charge extra. I'm not so worried about the extra cost, more so the notion that if it's on a menu as an extra, the implication is that the service will feel more mechanical and less organic. Is there really such a cultural difference between Brazil and Colombia in their views of sex, or am I assuming too much based on some ads I saw. I don't mind talking a bit of shop beforehand and offering a bit extra to establish expectations, it does spoil the mood a bit but not as much as a mechanical session. But in your experiences, how does mileage in Colombia compare to Brazil all things considered?
Another quick question is I've noticed that the Medellin forum is a lot more popular than the Bogota forum, which I find surprising just because Medellin doesn't have a tolerated zone like Bogota. What do you guys think of Medellin? Any theories as to why that forum is so much more popular? I know it seems like I'm on the fence here but I'm not. I definitely want to go to Bogota and I'm not looking to be talked out of it, I just want some perspective.[/QUOTE]I will tackle this one. In Sao Paulo, I went to Cafe Foto and Bomboa? And they had the hottest women per square inch I had ever seen in my life. Looks wise, the percentage of hotties is higher in SP. Performance wise, I give the edge to the Brazilians. And outside of Santa Fe, the costs are pretty similar. In Santa Fe and another tolerance zone, getting laid by a hottie is as cheap as anywhere in the world.
But I prefer Bogota women to SP women, and it may be my approach now versus then. In SP, I was focused on sex. In Bogota, I was more focused on getting to know the women and sex. Brazilian women have the reputation of kissing one guy and then onto the other even women who are not hookers. In my experience, my favorite Colombian women would never do that. Maybe it is an exaggeration but I like to think my Colombian faves would crawl across a street full of glass on their hands and knees to give me head and smile at the chance to do so.
Once you are seen by a Colombian woman as a good man versus a trick, the condoms come off. I have no problem going bare when I am there with my favorites.
There are also a lot of Venezuelans in Bogota. I have never had a bad Vennie in bed, but the Vennies have been traumatized by events in their country and also have been taught weird things about money, so although they look similar, they are women of a different flavor. I would just say do not be surprised if you meet a Santa Fe hooker who in Venezuela was an engineer or lawyer. They may not be the coked out street hos you are used to though some for sure are.
There are not as many hotties in Bogota as SP. That is for sure. However, I do not think you will find women who care more about how you feel, try to lift your spirits, and have a genuine desire to make sure you are happy in SP either.
I have used SA in the past in Bogota, but I think you can do what I did with working girls. Find a girl you like. Take her to coffee or for a snack. Get to know her a little. Feed her some compliments, and I bet you all the covers will magically come off.
So I guess I would say that I prefer SP hookers but Bogota / Colombian GF, sugar baby, hooker on retainer types. I just do not think Brazilian women can make you feel as special as the Colombian ones.
[QUOTE=Talkyes;2532471]What do you guys think of Medellin? Any theories as to why that forum is so much more popular? I know it seems like I'm on the fence here but I'm not. I definitely want to go to Bogota and I'm not looking to be talked out of it, I just want some perspective.[/QUOTE]Because the weather is better in Medellin and there is a big market for getting chicks from facebook.
[QUOTE=Talkyes;2532471]I'm thinking about staying at the San Francisco hotel right in Santa Fe a few blocks east of the action. Just how dangerous would it be to walk those couple blocks at night with little to no valuables?[/QUOTE]I have been doing that walk for years at all times of day and night and nobody has ever said a word to me. But obviously it depends on your fear factor, because you could not pay some guys to do it.
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2532564]I prefer Bogota women to SP women, and it may be my approach now versus then. In SP, I was focused on sex. In Bogota, I was more focused on getting to know the women and sex. Brazilian women have the reputation of kissing one guy and then onto the other even women who are not hookers. In my experience, my favorite Colombian women would never do that. Maybe it is an exaggeration but I like to think my Colombian faves would crawl across a street full of glass on their hands and knees to give me head and smile at the chance to do so.
Once you are seen by a Colombian woman as a good man versus a trick, the condoms come off. I have no problem going bare when I am there with my favorites.
There are not as many hotties in Bogota as SP. That is for sure. However, I do not think you will find women who care more about how you feel, try to lift your spirits, and have a genuine desire to make sure you are happy in SP either.
I have used SA in the past in Bogota, but I think you can do what I did with working girls. Find a girl you like. Take her to coffee or for a snack. Get to know her a little. Feed her some compliments, and I bet you all the covers will magically come off..[/QUOTE]This is good news for me. As I grow older and wiser I find myself becoming more of a loverboy and less of a sex machine. I mean I'm not naive, I know not to get too attached, but I definitely see the value in a long term investment over a pump and dump. Thanks for the insight, I didn't really consider than angle.
BTW, the first time I went to Bogota and this was 15 years ago, I went to the high end clubs. The women wanted more than Brazil, were not as good looking, did not perform as well, and were all CBJ (in fact, one woman wanted to double up on the condoms. LOL.) That is why I was so hesitant to go back.
So there was this non-stop chatter about how good Colombia was here, and I checked it out. When guys said they were getting laid for so little in Bogota and the women were as attractive in Santa Fe as the high end clubs, I was skeptical that they were as attractive but they really are. The casas sound like a good deal but I have not been, and maybe some high end clubs are worth it, but I did not see any.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2532594]I have been doing that walk for years at all times of day and night and nobody has ever said a word to me. But obviously it depends on your fear factor, because you could not pay some guys to do it.[/QUOTE]Alright awesome that makes me feel better, thanks.
[QUOTE=Talkyes;2532471]
The only thing is I am worried that Brazil has spoiled me and if I'm going to have more mechanical experiences than not. The more I look into it, it seems like the prepaids don't offer stuff like BBBJ and if they do they charge extra. I'm not so worried about the extra cost, more so the notion that if it's on a menu as an extra, the implication is that the service will feel more mechanical and less organic. Is there really such a cultural difference between Brazil and Colombia in their views of sex, or am I assuming too much based on some ads I saw. I don't mind talking a bit of shop beforehand and offering a bit extra to establish expectations, it does spoil the mood a bit but not as much as a mechanical session. But in your experiences, how does mileage in Colombia compare to Brazil all things considered?
[/QUOTE]It really depends on your hunting grounds. If you're going through SA. I've never had an SA girl ask me to put a condom on for a BJ. But again you're paying more for the whole service.
If you're talking about Santa Fe. You're paying the girl 10 to 15 bucks to screw her, everything else is extra, unless you've got the don juan charm, even then you're not going to be able to charm them all. Think of a Santa Fe session as a teaser and that's all. Don't think it's going to be passionate and you're going to become friends afterwards. Some of them may become your friends, but its takes time. Just be happy if she gets fully undressed for you. If you really want all the extras negociate before hand. Otherwise don't be dissapointed if theres something she won't do. I've had girls not want to take their tops off. Other girls didn't want to do doggie. I've never had a girl not put on a condom before a BJ in santa fe. Never.
[QUOTE=Talkyes;2532471]
Another quick question is I've noticed that the Medellin forum is a lot more popular than the Bogota forum, which I find surprising just because Medellin doesn't have a tolerated zone like Bogota. What do you guys think of Medellin? Any theories as to why that forum is so much more popular? I know it seems like I'm on the fence here but I'm not. I definitely want to go to Bogota and I'm not looking to be talked out of it, I just want some perspective.
[/QUOTE]All of Colombia is a tolerated zone man. Prostitution is legal here. If that's what you're talking about. Sex is a huge part of the culture. I've heard its popular fo girls get boob jobs for their 16 h birthday.
Regarding the forums. I have no idea why the medellin forums are much busier. Maybe more people go there?
[QUOTE=Talkyes;2532471]
Last question, I know this has been talked about to death, but I'm thinking about staying at the San Francisco hotel right in Santa Fe a few blocks east of the action. Just how dangerous would it be to walk those couple blocks at night with little to no valuables? Is there any safe strategy for going to Santa Fe at night? I've heard that the danger factor is over-hyped unless you're making yourself an easy target, but I've also heard that it's not.
Thanks bros, sorry if my questions suck.[/QUOTE]You can walk the couple of blocks no problem. Just know where you're going. Be smart. Its not that hard.
Flew out of USA into Bogota. Landed and went straight to Hotel San Francisco located in Santa Fe. Wanted to be close to the action LOL. Was paying around 25 $ USD per night. Hotel SF isn't 5 star but does have breakfast included, wifi, hot water, secure, etc. Place is alright for the price there are obviously better spots but I enjoyed my stay here as the hotel was guest friendly and 5 minutes from the action.
I signed up to the premium and sent the BTC to ISG just so I can message Woodman. Woodman met me at my hotel as soon as I landed. We ended up walking to Santa Fe to check out the action. This was my third trip to Bogota and I never had the courage to enter Santa Fe as it is notoriously dangerous even by Colombian standards. I felt safe having Woodman by my side. We strolled around looking at the chicas. At first I liked what I saw. There were all types of girls out. If your looking for supermodels don't look here but if your looking for pretty attractive chicas for 15 usd look no further but don't have high expectations.
Me and Woodman stumbled upon this older looking chica with crazy ass and tits. I decided might as well get the first load out. Off we went. 40 mil to chica and 8 mil for room. After she got undressed ***** looked like her operations were botched by Dr Evil and the sex sucked. Reminded me a bit of Hong Kong Tijuana. Mechanical sex and no BBBJ. Dam I miss you Brasil. Whatever I just got laid for the price of lunch in the city so no complaints.
Then me and Woodman went to Atonis and that's when shit got poppin. We got a table upstairs. We ordered some POKERS. They kept harassing us to by the expensive beer Corona LOL. That got a bit annoying. Anyways Woodman got us his favorite girl to give us a dance. This girl is a stunner. Perfect body, face, ass, personality. The total package couldn't believe she was in Santa Fe. Like a girl next door type. I think the dance was like 6 bucks USD LOL. Wtf what is life. You pay more to get in the door at most places. And this dance was full on nude show with girl doing acrobatic moves on your cock and pussy popping into your mouth LOL. It was wild especially for 6 bucks haha. Atonis was definitely a sick time. I didn't bang woodmans girl though. I found this skinny fresh 19 year old that was tight and hot. These narcos next to us paid for her to give me a show. I was sold so I picked her for the room.
Damage was like 50 mil and 10 mil for room. Something like that. Anyways she was awesome. Into the sex but no BBBJ. Oh well. That's how that night ended. It was a blast. Thanks Woodman. I felt safe having the dude around. At the end of the day I felt like the dude kept me alive LOL. Next day I went to Santa Fe with 3 friends. We walked around and loved what we saw. Hotties were out all types. I found this smoke show from Cali Colombia. I popped my black girl cherry. This girl was perfect from head to toe. Smooth skin perfect everything. No complaints just no BBBJ. Again, fuck I miss you Brasil. But I just smashed an amazing chica for like 20 bucks. Hard to beat. Its a vibe Santa Fe. Not for everyone its kinda sketchy but its food for the eyes. All these types of girls all flavors all ages for 15-20 $ LOL. I like to drink beers and walk around during the day starting at 1-2 pm. 5-6 pm things are popping even more. Things are especially good starting Thursday- Sunday I think.
After smashing my Cali Chica I was off to the room for some re charge. Then I went to Chapinero in the evening to meet up with a buddy. He took me to a night spot type. It was okay but I thought the Santa Fe chicas were way hotter. I became a Santa Fe crackhead really quickly. Even though I couldn't get my Brasil fix. GFE BBBJ. I was smashing pretty hot chicks / decent for like 15-20 $ and that's a vibe in itself. Idk I was just loving Santa Fe at first. So I told my buddy lets go. We went to Paisas. At paisas we met a Venezuelan chica who gave us an awesome show. She got me really hot so I took her to the room. I think it was 60 mil and 10 for the room. The girl talked a big game but was wack in bed. Mechanical sex no GFE no BBBJ. Disappointed. Then went to Atonis with woodman.
Didn't stay long as I got tired of Santa Fe LOL. They are a bit annoying. They are always harassing you on the street to either come to their clubs. Or in the clubs to buy more shit. That vibe gets played the fuck out quick. It reminded me a lot of Tijuana Honk Kong where before you even finish your drink they are hounding you to buy another drink. I came to relax but really got annoyed AF. Told woodman I had enough so we ate some bomb ass swharma and headed home.
That was the last time I saw Woodman. The next day I woke up and hit this spot called Abejitas Masajes. It was my best experience in Bogota. Beautiful young girl. Literally perfect head to toe. 150 mil damage. But Brasil experience. GFE BBBJ DFK plus massage and guru. Total 1 HR. Freaking amazing time. I realized I rather pay 3 x Santa Fe for that Brazil experience. I just didn't know where to go. I had a girl coming so had to go back to hotel. This is my friend from many trips. She came all the way 5 hrs from other town to see me.
Anyways that night with her after dinner I got pickpocketd. We had dinner in park 93 and it was my bright idea to walk it off. We ended up both getting our phones pickpocketed. That was Friday night and I stayed with that girl till Monday night. So no SF trips and nothing to report. That girl saved my life in a way. Not having a phone out there isn't fun.
Monday night the girl leaves. My flight was leaving midnight. I took a taxi to Sf to drive around. A safe way to go scope talent is to take a taxi and have him drive around the area looking at what you want. I didn't find shit but hopped out anyways. I took a right and a left and realized I was lost. Do not get lost in Santa Fe. I wish I had woodman LOL. I was on this sketchy street and in 2 minutes I would have been food. Taxi rolled up and I got out of there quick it was getting dark already and it was going to be a bad situation.
Told the taxi to take me to adejitas massage. Was looking for my girl from before but mama said she busy. So I picked this other chick. When the clothes came off she wasn't all that. And she didn't give BBBJ. She was alright. I like this massage place. Its cool. I wish I knew more spots. I discovered this one on google. Didn't have my phone most the trip. And had a GF with me from Friday night till Monday night. Couldn't do much.
Don't know if I will be going back to Colombia. But regardless had fun and thanks Woodman I got to cross off Santa Fe off my bucket list.
Cheers,
Sportfan.
Are there many clinics providing antigen test in Bogota?
Is the result quick? Do you have to make appointment many days prior?
Thanks.
Just went to look up some great map I found to share it with you guys because sportsfan mentioned he didn't know a lot of places to go and I can't find it anymore. I think the website was mapadeamor or something like that. I found like a month ago it by googling "Bogota burdel mapa" LOL. Dang it was really good, had lots of links and stuff. I know there's a map here that's really good too but I think this one was more up to date. Anyone know which one I'm talking about? I'm waiting to be approved to foro prepagos Colombia because I know they have a map too but it's only viewable for members.
[QUOTE=SportFan1;2532634]Woodman met me at my hotel as soon as I landed. We ended up walking to Santa Fe to check out the action. This was my third trip to Bogota and I never had the courage to enter Santa Fe as it is notoriously dangerous even by Colombian standards.[/QUOTE]Now that you got a chance to hang out in Santa Fe this trip, would you still say your fears from before were warranted?
Has anyone tried any of the university chicas on Twitter? I am seeing more and more. I know other places like CDMX is where the chicas use Twitter, but never really heard anything about it in Colombia.
[QUOTE=SilverTurtle;2532795]Are there many clinics providing antigen test in Bogota?
Is the result quick? Do you have to make appointment many days prior?
Thanks.[/QUOTE]A post yesterday on the Medellin forum stated that the test is done at the airport in Medellin. It is probably done at the Bogota International Airport also. You can contact the airport or take the short trip there and give us a full report.
[QUOTE=SilverTurtle;2532795]Are there many clinics providing antigen test in Bogota?
Is the result quick? Do you have to make appointment many days prior?
Thanks.[/QUOTE]Here you go: [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4155-Colombia-Travel-Coronavirus-Updates&p=2528728&viewfull=1[/URL]#post2528728.
[QUOTE=Jbj64;2532884]Has anyone tried any of the university chicas on Twitter? I am seeing more and more. I know other places like CDMX is where the chicas use Twitter, but never really heard anything about it in Colombia.[/QUOTE]Do you have a sample link? I will be in Bogota tomorrow and I can check it out for you.
[QUOTE=SilverTurtle;2532795]Are there many clinics providing antigen test in Bogota?
Is the result quick? Do you have to make appointment many days prior?
Thanks.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.coronapass.com.co/[/URL]
Drive inn Antigen test 150 000 pesos result in 10 minutes, different locations: calle 90 #19C-25, Carerra 5 #70-51 and Calle 116 #18-89. Best is to make an appointment before through their site, else thraight away on site.
[QUOTE=Jbj64;2532884]Has anyone tried any of the university chicas on Twitter? I am seeing more and more. I know other places like CDMX is where the chicas use Twitter, but never really heard anything about it in Colombia.[/QUOTE]If you mean pros, yes, a lot of pros advertise on Twitter, Facebook, Instagram and also Tinder. Just start to search Prepago Bogota, then browse through the friends and followers. Don't fool yourself believing they are amateur because you met them on social media, the profiles are explicit enough.
[QUOTE=Routard;2533055]Don't fool yourself believing they are amateur because you met them on social media,[/QUOTE]Too late! What thrill is it in finding a chick that is new to being a hooker anyway? Nobody wants a new lawyer or new doctor, but it seems many want a new hooker.
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2205-Bogota-Lists[/URL]
[QUOTE=Talkyes;2532876]Just went to look up some great map I found to share it with you guys because sportsfan mentioned he didn't know a lot of places to go and I can't find it anymore. I think the website was mapadeamor or something like that. I found like a month ago it by googling "Bogota burdel mapa" LOL. Dang it was really good, had lots of links and stuff. I know there's a map here that's really good too but I think this one was more up to date. Anyone know which one I'm talking about? I'm waiting to be approved to foro prepagos Colombia because I know they have a map too but it's only viewable for members.[/QUOTE]
Wow, three back to back posts by Routard and World Traveller 69, the two stalwarts of ISG. Two thumbs up for the Bogota thread!
[QUOTE=Berliner2021;2531527]When did you got there? It is supposedly closed at the moment?
Just curious as I am in Bogota.[/QUOTE]I just left this past Tuesday. In fact as I was walking out one morning for breakfast to see the morning shift per others poster' suggestions along the way I passed by there. The music was cranking at 7:30 in the morning and they were trying to get me in there LOL.
Vaccines arrived from the US in Bogota this past Monday. They will be issued in Bogota, Medellin, Cartagena, and Barranquilla from what I remember.
[QUOTE=Woodman09;2532252]Yes, Atonis is so fun. As I have written before-- Atonis is my favorite bar- So wonderfully sleazy- I love the girls there-.
They get the hot new girls. I love it when there are a bunch of hot girls to pick from. You can get harcore lapdances for $5.
I have a special girl there who shall remain nameless as she is busy enough and I don't like it-.
*Nothing I can do about that-- But I will not facilitate, even though that is what I'm doing here I suppose.
*She is a 20 yo 5 ft sex bomb with natural double the boobs-- Beautiful face and fun attitude-- Looks like a Hot college co-ed *And we get a long great. She likes my dick a lot too-- She says I have a big big gringo dick-- Which I have heard from other girls-- Which leads me to believe that guys around here must be small as I'm sorta average but a better average.
Another great bar is Venus for the same reasons, also La Casona is another. Of course when things are happening all the clubs are good.
I have some funny stories I must recount later. I'm just so frigging busy working on line that it's hard to take the time.[/QUOTE]I did hit both Venus and La Casona. I liked both of them too. Nice variety is terms of heights, skins tone, thickness in a the ass and tits dept. BTW I hate I didn't get to hang with you and Kazeu. Long story short I didn't fully understand Bitcoin transaction fees aka mining. While I had enough money in my wallet once they added the mining fee I would no longer have enough in my wallet to pay the subscription fee. So frustrating after waiting for the money to finally hit my coinbase acct from my bank. The admins may want to include this info in the subscription section so folks can plan accordingly.
[QUOTE=Routard;2529821]You will have a complete description of Bogota's swinger scene in my Bogota FAQ:
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?3865-Bogota-FAQ&p=2241562&viewfull=1[/URL]#post2241562.
The report is from before Covid however. Most swinger clubs are open again, but expect a slow atmosphere.[/QUOTE]Thanks again Routard. I did try to hit Jesus and Aldie (I'm sure this is misspelled) about a week ago on what I thought was couples and singles night. Unfortunately it was couples only night and the woman working there said to come back the next day at 5 PM. Even more unfortunate they wouldn't let me have a courtesy peek to see if I wanted to come back LOL.
[QUOTE=Jbj64;2532884]Has anyone tried any of the university chicas on Twitter? I am seeing more and more. I know other places like CDMX is where the chicas use Twitter, but never really heard anything about it in Colombia.[/QUOTE]If you're trying to meet amateurs or girls that blur the lines between hookers and golddiggers, you might want to try [URL]seeking.com[/URL], a lot of people are talking about it over on the Colomian forum. You can make an account and check it out for free but It's 99 USD a month to message the girls. Apparently a lot of chicks will message you and a lot of them are asking for something in the 200,000 pesos range for several hours with a young university chica. I'm thinking about buying one month a week or 2 before my trip so I can have some options lined up when I arrive. It's clever, it's a way for girls to pimp themselves while simultaneously pretending they're not hookers. I think the main reason escort apps will never take off is because so many girls hate acknowledging what they're doing. This website on the other hand seems to be extremely active, unless lots of the profiles are fake, which is possible.
Also should mention the map on the Colombian forum is nowhere near as good as the one on this site. Never ended up finding that mapadeamor one I lost but I realized the map on this site is basically identical. I found the main place I was looking for on it, Gisell Barra aka place that just says "playboy models" LOL. Those girls look so hot I would happily do a line of scopalamine if they asked me to.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2533383]Wow, three back to back posts by Routard and World Traveller 69, the two stalwarts of ISG. Two thumbs up for the Bogota thread![/QUOTE]On the other side I'm concerned to see the threads about Colombia so active. It's becoming a trendy destination for sex tourism and this will lead the market to more professional behaviors and price increase. I'm concerned that Colombia become the new Thailand and Thailand has been down hill since 10 to 15 years for this activity both regarding behaviors and prices because invaded by tourism. A good destination for this activity is where the market is local eg cheap and with amateurs to semi pro, tourism transform very quickly in a bad way the market. Medellin and Cartagena on their way to reach this situation, Bogota not yet as poorly attractive for pure tourism but this will probably come.
[QUOTE=Prelude141;2533415]On the other side I'm concerned to see the threads about Colombia so active. It's becoming a trendy destination for sex tourism and this will lead the market to more professional behaviors and price increase. I'm concerned that Colombia become the new Thailand and Thailand has been down hill since 10 to 15 years for this activity both regarding behaviors and prices because invaded by tourism. A good destination for this activity is where the market is local eg cheap and with amateurs to semi pro, tourism transform very quickly in a bad way the market. Medellin and Cartagena on their way to reach this situation, Bogota not yet as poorly attractive for pure tourism but this will probably come.[/QUOTE]Do you think the language difference will slow down this transformation? Thai girls speak English but not a lot of the Colombian ladies speak English.
[QUOTE=FrankLucas;2533449]Do you think the language difference will slow down this transformation? Thai girls speak English but not a lot of the Colombian ladies speak English.[/QUOTE]It did not stop anything in Brazil, Costa Rica, Dominican Republic.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2533457]It did not stop anything in Brazil, Costa Rica, Dominican Republic.[/QUOTE]Damn, I guess I better get back there and enjoy while I can. Great point Mr. E. Would you agree that those that can speak Spanish may do better when the times change?
[QUOTE=Prelude141;2533415]On the other side I'm concerned to see the threads about Colombia so active. It's becoming a trendy destination for sex tourism and this will lead the market to more professional behaviors and price increase. I'm concerned that Colombia become the new Thailand and Thailand has been down hill since 10 to 15 years for this activity both regarding behaviors and prices because invaded by tourism. A good destination for this activity is where the market is local eg cheap and with amateurs to semi pro, tourism transform very quickly in a bad way the market. Medellin and Cartagena on their way to reach this situation, Bogota not yet as poorly attractive for pure tourism but this will probably come.[/QUOTE]I agree. Please do not advertize too much about Colombia. Tell people to go to Hawai!
[QUOTE=FrankLucas;2533472]Damn, I guess I better get back there and enjoy while I can. Great point Mr. E. Would you agree that those that can speak Spanish may do better when the times change?[/QUOTE]Better as far as what? If you are looking for chicks to pay then I do not think it makes a difference whether you speak the language or not. If you are looking for normal chicks then I think it makes a huge difference although not impossible. I have not always spoke Spanish, Portuguese, and Thai, but have always been able to pick up normal chicks despite then having language barriers.
Is there any hotel in Bogota that doesn't check ID of my female guest?
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2533064]Too late! What thrill is it in finding a chick that is new to being a hooker anyway? Nobody wants a new lawyer or new doctor, but it seems many want a new hooker.[/QUOTE]LMAO Mr. E you ain't lying. Maybe it's like a new car. Nothing beats a new hooker smell.
Analizer Laboratories has several locations in Bogota. They are quick and will email you the results in English or Spanish. There was one location that was a 5 minute walk from my AirBnB. Stopped by on a Saturday morning before my returning flight on a Tuesday. Unfortunately they don't perform the test at their location. However, they did help me set up an appt at another location for Monday. They assured me I would have my results before my flight. I took an Uber and arrived at the other lab Monday at 7 am. They checked my passport and gave me the test. I was there probably a total of 15 minutes. I got my results at 2:30 am Tuesday morning. I did have to try several times to download the pdf into my phone. Verify accepted to PDF.
Several things to know.
They speak only Spanish at the Laboratory. So know some Spanish or have a working translator app. I've practiced enough Duolingo and listened to News In Slow Spanish podcasts and was able to pick up on enough words to know what they were saying and asking for.
Have your passport.
Have your flight info (either the physical ticket, email, or airline app) for them to see. In the case of my AA app they wanted a screenshot of my flight info emailed. I didn't have Internet. Fortunately, the lady working there was quick on her feet and took a screenshot from her phone and emailed it for me.
They're closed on Sundays.
Stop by in advanced even before your 72-96 hour window starts in case you can't do a walk in or have to go to another location.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2533479]Better as far as what? If you are looking for chicks to pay then I do not think it makes a difference whether you speak the language or not. If you are looking for normal chicks then I think it makes a huge difference although not impossible. I have not always spoke Spanish, Portuguese, and Thai, but have always been able to pick up normal chicks despite then having language barriers.[/QUOTE]I respectfully disagree with you. Even when paying for chicas, if you can't communicate with the girl, you're never going to have that connection that makes some sessions stand out from others. Of course there are always exceptions, there may just be some sort of physical chemistry that you have with a girl that transcends verbal communication, but how often does that happen. Most of the time, meeting a girl for the first time to have sex is not a straightforward or comfortable situation, especially for a girl. Talking to a girl goes a long way.
If all you ever expect is robotic sex, then sure, you won't have any problems without Spanish.
[QUOTE=Prelude141;2533415]On the other side I'm concerned to see the threads about Colombia so active. It's becoming a trendy destination for sex tourism and this will lead the market to more professional behaviors and price increase. I'm concerned that Colombia become the new Thailand and Thailand has been down hill since 10 to 15 years for this activity both regarding behaviors and prices because invaded by tourism. A good destination for this activity is where the market is local eg cheap and with amateurs to semi pro, tourism transform very quickly in a bad way the market. Medellin and Cartagena on their way to reach this situation, Bogota not yet as poorly attractive for pure tourism but this will probably come.[/QUOTE]I've pretty much conceded that Colombia will eventually turn into the Thailand of the south america and head down the of places like Costa Rica. Just enjoy it while you can. The irony, is that its boards like this that contribute to the downfall. So much attention and people posting about all their experiences. Its kind of like how instagram has completely ruined certain places for travel. I'm old enough to remember that you used to go to places and experience what they were actually like vs experiencing the tourism of the place. There are places in the world that I have no desire to ever go to anymore after the instagram / facebook tourism boom. Fighting my way through hoards of tourists does not sound like a fun way to spend a vacation.
Theres a way to fight upward pricing. Just like theres a way to fight downward pricing. Its called collusion. Girls do it. Mongers should do it too, but I don't think theres enough will for that to ever happen. Most people don't really care if prices go up 200 or 300 percent, they've already come down, spent there weekend millionare money and gotten theirs. Its not a lifestyle to them, they don't live it. They *experience* it. The smart thing to do would be to not engage weekend millionaires. Let them find out information on their own.
Sessioned with a girl in Santa Fe. Her name is Nicole. She usually works right across from Troya on the King Shwarma side. Great ass, and great smile on this girl. She's had a kid, but I took a chance seeing as not much else caught my attention in Santa Fe that day. Attitude was great. She's got a boyfriend too. Doesn't' kiss, which was a bumber, not many girls these days in SF give DFK. Right before we started getting down to business, she pulls out this tube of something. She called it lubrication, but I've seen lubrication before. All kinds. KY, Fisio, Skin lotion. This was none of those things. She pushed it into her pussy and while I was doing her doggie, I could see white clumps of it. After the session I got a chance to look at the tube. I forget the spelling, something like "Cortimizol". I'm no doctor, but I'm pretty sure it was some sort of steroid. I asked her why she doesn't use KY or something, she said if she doesn't use it her pussy gets enflamed from fucking too many guys. I tried to tell her that it probably wasn't a good idea for her to be using that all the time, but I'm not sure if I got through to her. Anyways, I didn't even want that stuff on my dick. She was using quite a bit of it. If it wasn't' for the steroid lube I would probably repeat with her.
The other thing that I noticed is that some girls fuck with tampons. I had 2 sessions last week where the girl had a tampon in her pussy. You would think you would feel it but I guess not. One girl said she always has a tampon in there. Who knows why.
Regarding the 11 pm shutdown. I was in Zona Rosa last night. Was drinking with some friends. They were telling me that everything closes at 11 pm, but we were going to find a place to go dance. We went out onto Calle 85 and some guy approached us and told us they were open until 7 am. He let us into this club on the third floor. Where we partied and danced until 1 am. When we left, the door was closed, I'm sure to avoid attention from cops. Everything was very much Santa Fe style. People trying to get you into clubs that shouldn't be open. Closed doors, checking for cops. The city is still very much alive. Corona or not, people got to party.
I have to say I hadn't been out with normal people for a while. LOL. Not saying mongers are abnormal. Hahaha. But you know, I hadn't been to a club where girls don't want me to pay them for sex in a while. It was quite refreshing to see exactly how gorgeous colombians really are. Take a stroll around Zona Rosa on a Friday or Saturday night and enjoy the sights. Then come back and tell me that you saw a 9 or 10 in Santa Fe.
[QUOTE=Kazeu;2533680]The smart thing to do would be to not engage weekend millionaires. Let them find out information on their own.[/QUOTE]Mortal enemies within our midst, I'm sure we all know whom you are thinking of.
Use of tampon is probably to prevent semen from inseminating them if the condom breaks or if one removes the condom suddenly to try to come inside (I have been told by some girls that some customers try that manœuvrer).
At Kazeu, this was the ointment in your report: [URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clotrimazole[/URL].
[QUOTE=Kazeu;2533685]The other thing that I noticed is that some girls fuck with tampons. I had 2 sessions last week where the girl had a tampon in her pussy. You would think you would feel it but I guess not. One girl said she always has a tampon in there. Who knows why.[/QUOTE]Why? So they don't lose any working time due to menstrual cycle.
[QUOTE=Kazeu;2533680]I've pretty much conceded that Colombia will eventually turn into the Thailand of the south america and head down the of places like Costa Rica. Just enjoy it while you can. The irony, is that its boards like this that contribute to the downfall. So much attention and people posting about all their experiences. Its kind of like how instagram has completely ruined certain places for travel. I'm old enough to remember that you used to go to places and experience what they were actually like vs experiencing the tourism of the place. There are places in the world that I have no desire to ever go to anymore after the instagram / facebook tourism boom. Fighting my way through hoards of tourists does not sound like a fun way to spend a vacation.
Theres a way to fight upward pricing. Just like theres a way to fight downward pricing. Its called collusion. Girls do it. Mongers should do it too, but I don't think theres enough will for that to ever happen. Most people don't really care if prices go up 200 or 300 percent, they've already come down, spent there weekend millionare money and gotten theirs. Its not a lifestyle to them, they don't live it. They *experience* it. The smart thing to do would be to not engage weekend millionaires. Let them find out information on their own.[/QUOTE]That girls don't collude as much as we think they do. Sure, if their prepago friends are within hearing distance, they'll stick to a standard asking price. But if you're talking with them in private, that all goes out the window. Of course they'll never admit to their friends that they accepted a lower price. In fact they'll frequently brag (lie) about how much guys give them.
For example, in Medellin in the Mansion, I've had several times where I've given chicas less than the standard rate (usually because I only had so much cash on me). The girls always make me swear I won't tell anyone else what I paid.
[QUOTE=Kazeu;2533680]I've pretty much conceded that Colombia will eventually turn into the Thailand of the south america and head down the of places like Costa Rica. Just enjoy it while you can. The irony, is that its boards like this that contribute to the downfall. So much attention and people posting about all their experiences. Its kind of like how instagram has completely ruined certain places for travel. I'm old enough to remember that you used to go to places and experience what they were actually like vs experiencing the tourism of the place. There are places in the world that I have no desire to ever go to anymore after the instagram / facebook tourism boom. Fighting my way through hoards of tourists does not sound like a fun way to spend a vacation.
Theres a way to fight upward pricing. Just like theres a way to fight downward pricing. Its called collusion. Girls do it. Mongers should do it too, but I don't think theres enough will for that to ever happen. Most people don't really care if prices go up 200 or 300 percent, they've already come down, spent there weekend millionare money and gotten theirs. Its not a lifestyle to them, they don't live it. They *experience* it. The smart thing to do would be to not engage weekend millionaires. Let them find out information on their own.[/QUOTE]Back in the 90's there was a little place called Costa Rica, the Del Rey was full of Ticas, no Colombians, no Dominicanas, only Ticas that would fuck all 3 of us for $25. A giant lobster dinner with a few JW blacks served on the beach in Brasilito, Guanacaste for $15 bucks. Brazil, Copacabana, my pick out of dozens Brasileras, T. A, Help, Dirt cheap Termas. Peru, Miraflores. Casinos, Tequila Rock, Parque Kennedy, Pizza alley where you could take a regular girl working at any one of the restaurants for girlfriend sex for a few Soles. My point is I've seen a lot of changes over the years and not for the better. Guys will go to Bogota and give a girl $400"because she is model beautiful" jaja and she will think every gringo should pay that. It only takes one to overpay and for her to spread the word to fuck up the whole deal. Or the stupid gringo who thinks he's going to change some prepagos life and take care of her. Thing is, when this gringo pendejo is falling in love he is falling in love by himself. So the beat goes on and you can't go home again.
[QUOTE=Prelude141;2533415]On the other side I'm concerned to see the threads about Colombia so active. It's becoming a trendy destination for sex tourism and this will lead the market to more professional behaviors and price increase. I'm concerned that Colombia become the new Thailand and Thailand has been down hill since 10 to 15 years for this activity both regarding behaviors and prices because invaded by tourism. A good destination for this activity is where the market is local eg cheap and with amateurs to semi pro, tourism transform very quickly in a bad way the market. Medellin and Cartagena on their way to reach this situation, Bogota not yet as poorly attractive for pure tourism but this will probably come.[/QUOTE]I posted about that some weeks ago. It cannot be stopped. Right now Colombia is receiving lots of attention for mongering activities worldwide because of how accommodating it is during this pandemic. Post covid it would be a major mongering destination as people who did not know about it pre pandemic get to be aware of its delights of the flesh. The hoards are coming and we can do nothing about it.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2533954]I posted about that some weeks ago. It cannot be stopped. Right now Colombia is receiving lots of attention for mongering activities worldwide because of how accommodating it is during this pandemic. Post covid it would be a major mongering destination as people who did not know about it pre pandemic get to be aware of its delights of the flesh. The hoards are coming and we can do nothing about it.[/QUOTE]I agree with you that it cannot be stopped. But I would hope that it could be slowed down.
[QUOTE=Combo;2533814]That girls don't collude as much as we think they do. [/QUOTE]Well then that's good for us. Maybe we have it better than we think. That doesn't mean men shouldn't collude though.
One thing that I've mentioned in the past that usually doesn't get much attention, in fact I think I got some backlash for stating it, because you know, people want to pay what they want to pay the way they want to pay it. And they're always right. If you want to give a girl extra or more than the going rate. Just give the damn money to her. Don't associate it with sex. Then you really are just being a good guy. And they don't expect to get that payment everytime they screw someone. Its just *you* being a schmuck. Pay her the going rate for the sex. And then the next time you see her, give her 100 USD or 300 USD or whatever you feel like, out of the goodness of your heart.
[QUOTE=Questner;2533808]At Kazeu, this was the ointment in your report: [URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clotrimazole[/URL].[/QUOTE]Thanks Questner. Much appreciated. Now the question is, is it bad for mongers? Briefly reading the description makes it seem like its not too dangerous for the chica.
[QUOTE=Kazeu;2533685]she pulls out this tube of something. She called it lubrication, but I've seen lubrication before. All kinds. KY, Fisio, Skin lotion. This was none of those things. She pushed it into her pussy and while I was doing her doggie, I could see white clumps of it. After the session I got a chance to look at the tube. I forget the spelling, something like "Cortimizol".[/QUOTE]In the termas in Brazil a lot of the girls use a numbing/pain relief creme with some kind of caine in it as well.
[QUOTE=Kazeu;2533685]Sessioned with a girl in Santa Fe. Her name is Nicole. She usually works right across from Troya on the King Shwarma side. Great ass, and great smile on this girl. She's had a kid, but I took a chance seeing as not much else caught my attention in Santa Fe that day. Attitude was great. She's got a boyfriend too. Doesn't' kiss, which was a bumber, not many girls these days in SF give DFK. Right before we started getting down to business, she pulls out this tube of something. She called it lubrication, but I've seen lubrication before. All kinds. KY, Fisio, Skin lotion. This was none of those things. She pushed it into her pussy and while I was doing her doggie, I could see white clumps of it. After the session I got a chance to look at the tube. I forget the spelling, something like "Cortimizol". I'm no doctor, but I'm pretty sure it was some sort of steroid. I asked her why she doesn't use KY or something, she said if she doesn't use it her pussy gets enflamed from fucking too many guys. I tried to tell her that it probably wasn't a good idea for her to be using that all the time, but I'm not sure if I got through to her. Anyways, I didn't even want that stuff on my dick. She was using quite a bit of it. If it wasn't' for the steroid lube I would probably repeat with her.
The other thing that I noticed is that some girls fuck with tampons. I had 2 sessions last week where the girl had a tampon in her pussy. You would think you would feel it but I guess not. One girl said she always has a tampon in there. Who knows why.
Regarding the 11 pm shutdown. I was in Zona Rosa last night. Was drinking with some friends. They were telling me that everything closes at 11 pm, but we were going to find a place to go dance. We went out onto Calle 85 and some guy approached us and told us they were open until 7 am. He let us into this club on the third floor. Where we partied and danced until 1 am. When we left, the door was closed, I'm sure to avoid attention from cops. Everything was very much Santa Fe style. People trying to get you into clubs that shouldn't be open. Closed doors, checking for cops. The city is still very much alive. Corona or not, people got to party.
I have to say I hadn't been out with normal people for a while. LOL. Not saying mongers are abnormal. Hahaha. But you know, I hadn't been to a club where girls don't want me to pay them for sex in a while. It was quite refreshing to see exactly how gorgeous colombians really are. Take a stroll around Zona Rosa on a Friday or Saturday night and enjoy the sights. Then come back and tell me that you saw a 9 or 10 in Santa Fe.[/QUOTE]The cream "Cortimizol" that you are talking about is probably clotrimazol (Clotrimazole) and is an antifungal (antimycotic). For some reason there is lots of advertisement in Colombia about antifungal creams for the vagina that contains Clotrimazole 1%. Many sexworkers use it because they think they have fungi in their vaginas when actually what they have is a sore vagina due to over use. Instead of the antifungal they should just be using a good quality lubricant like ky, but they think they know better because the pharmacist in the corner drugstore told them to use the anti-fungal cream. Off course when they use too much of it the fungi actually becomes resistant to the Clotrimazole. Besides, the excipient is by no means a lubricant, the excipient is for the cream to stay in the skin (or in the vagina's tissue in this case) so they would get probably more sore when using this cream before having sex.
They do not really use tampons because they are too big or too hard and might scratch the tip of the customer's penis. What they use is a piece of folded toilet paper that they insert in their vaginas so that they don't have to stop working when they have their menstrual periods. The folded toilet paper prevents the blood from coming out just as a tampon but removing it requires some skill because they need to squat and push to remove it. Please don't ask how I know this haha.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2534043]In the termas in Brazil a lot of the girls use a numbing/pain relief creme with some kind of caine in it as well.[/QUOTE][URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lidocaine[/URL]
KY plus lidocaine; you can buy in a pharmacy in Brazil.
[QUOTE=Kazeu;2534019]Thanks Questner. Much appreciated. Now the question is, is it bad for mongers? Briefly reading the description makes it seem like its not too dangerous for the chica.[/QUOTE]No, no danger. I used to have it always on my trips, but then changed it for this one, more effective: [URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terbinafine[/URL].
[QUOTE=RyckII;2534097]The cream "Cortimizol" that you are talking about is probably clotrimazol (Clotrimazole) and is an antifungal (antimycotic). For some reason there is lots of advertisement in Colombia about antifungal creams for the vagina that contains Clotrimazole 1%. Many sexworkers use it because they think they have fungi in their vaginas when actually what they have is a sore vagina due to over use. Instead of the antifungal they should just be using a good quality lubricant like ky, but they think they know better because the pharmacist in the corner drugstore told them to use the anti-fungal cream. Off course when they use too much of it the fungi actually becomes resistant to the Clotrimazole. Besides, the excipient is by no means a lubricant, the excipient is for the cream to stay in the skin (or in the vagina's tissue in this case) so they would get probably more sore when using this cream before having sex.
They do not really use tampons because they are too big or too hard and might scratch the tip of the customer's penis. What they use is a piece of folded toilet paper that they insert in their vaginas so that they don't have to stop working when they have their menstrual periods. The folded toilet paper prevents the blood from coming out just as a tampon but removing it requires some skill because they need to squat and push to remove it. Please don't ask how I know this haha.[/QUOTE]Clotrimazole 1%, yup, the same stuff they sell in Walmart for athletes foot and jock itch. Generic anti fungal medication. Also sold as a vaginal suppository.
I sessioned with Sophia the other day, who I always pass by and told myself that I would try one day. She usually works in on Carrera 15 across from La Piscina but a bit more toward the southern end of the block. You can identify her by her leopard pattern tattoo on her right shoulder. The best thing about this girl is her ass. Her face is only passable. She claims she's 26 but I'd peg her more at around 30. When you get close you can see she wears a lot of makeup. Anyways, inside the room, she's friendly but robotic, you can tell she's been doing this for a long time. Her skin is like milky butter. Exquisite. I don't know what she does with it, but it is super smooth. She sat me down at the edge of the bed and gave me an enthusiastic covered blowjob after which she positioned herself at the edge of the bed in doggie style. Man what a view. Doing her doggie, with her ass just bouncing against your hips is what god intended sex to be like. Sex was pretty quick and mechanical, but it was worth it. 40 k.
Face: 6.
Body: 8. 5.
Attitude: 7.
Would I Repeat: yes. Good as a backup option any day.
[QUOTE=Kazeu;2534018]Well then that's good for us. Maybe we have it better than we think. That doesn't mean men shouldn't collude though.
One thing that I've mentioned in the past that usually doesn't get much attention, in fact I think I got some backlash for stating it, because you know, people want to pay what they want to pay the way they want to pay it. And they're always right. If you want to give a girl extra or more than the going rate. Just give the damn money to her. Don't associate it with sex. Then you really are just being a good guy. And they don't expect to get that payment everytime they screw someone. Its just *you* being a schmuck. Pay her the going rate for the sex. And then the next time you see her, give her 100 USD or 300 USD or whatever you feel like, out of the goodness of your heart.[/QUOTE]Hi guys,
Been lurking for a while (thanks for the resource).
As some other posters have mentioned, I think Colombia is about to become huge. It's already very much on the traveller cool list, it's beautiful, couple that with ridiculously cheap, ridiculously good looking pussy? It's the beginning of the end as you know it for sure fellas. This whole mindset of keeping the market rate and how defensive guys are about it blows my mind. What you're essentially saying is, it's better for your pocket if the girls stay poor. I look up the market rate, and I'll keep it in mind but this whole colluding to keep prices low? You wonder why the left wing say the world is full of fat, middle aged white men rigging the game for themselves? Case and point.
The truth is the world will evolve, one day these girls will the preserve of the relatively well off (just like western world where you pay top £$€). Enjoy it while you can. Find the places you still get pussy for cheap. Feeling you have a right to sleep with 20 year girls for a price you think is sufficient is rubbish.
I'm looking forward to visiting Colombia towards the end of the year. Expecting competition to be stiff.
[QUOTE=Pussycat123;2534236]Clotrimazole 1%, yup, the same stuff they sell in Walmart for athletes foot and jock itch. Generic anti fungal medication. Also sold as a vaginal suppository.[/QUOTE]There was a vaginal lubricant (forget the name) long time ago which had some anti fungal creme. Lots of girls used it. This was before general use of condom. Maybe girls always thought they had yeast infection when they smelled something and had an discharge. Nobody went and got tested. Later scientists came up with chlamydia, very distinct from yeast infection or candidiasis.
[QUOTE=Reignsupreme01;2534999]This whole mindset of keeping the market rate and how defensive guys are about it blows my mind. What you're essentially saying is, it's better for your pocket if the girls stay poor.[/QUOTE]Uhh if the girls were not poor then they would not need to be hookers.
[QUOTE=Reignsupreme01;2534999]Hi guys,
Been lurking for a while (thanks for the resource).
As some other posters have mentioned, I think Colombia is about to become huge. It's already very much on the traveller cool list, it's beautiful, couple that with ridiculously cheap, ridiculously good looking pussy? It's the beginning of the end as you know it for sure fellas. This whole mindset of keeping the market rate and how defensive guys are about it blows my mind. What you're essentially saying is, it's better for your pocket if the girls stay poor. I look up the market rate, and I'll keep it in mind but this whole colluding to keep prices low? You wonder why the left wing say the world is full of fat, middle aged white men rigging the game for themselves? Case and point.
The truth is the world will evolve, one day these girls will the preserve of the relatively well off (just like western world where you pay top $). Enjoy it while you can. Find the places you still get pussy for cheap. Feeling you have a right to sleep with 20 year girls for a price you think is sufficient is rubbish.
I'm looking forward to visiting Colombia towards the end of the year. Expecting competition to be stiff.[/QUOTE]Where did I ever say I had the right to anything? I stated what might help keep prices down, which would would help everyone.
From a mongering perspective its definitely better for mongering if the girls stay poor. If the country stays poor.
You're right, its probably too late. But I will do my part and stop posting here. I've been posting out of gratitude for all the board has given me over the years.
I'm out. Enjoy.
[QUOTE=Reignsupreme01;2534999]Hi guys,
Been lurking for a while (thanks for the resource).
As some other posters have mentioned, I think Colombia is about to become huge. It's already very much on the traveller cool list, it's beautiful, couple that with ridiculously cheap, ridiculously good looking pussy? It's the beginning of the end as you know it for sure fellas. This whole mindset of keeping the market rate and how defensive guys are about it blows my mind. What you're essentially saying is, it's better for your pocket if the girls stay poor. I look up the market rate, and I'll keep it in mind but this whole colluding to keep prices low? You wonder why the left wing say the world is full of fat, middle aged white men rigging the game for themselves? Case and point.
The truth is the world will evolve, one day these girls will the preserve of the relatively well off (just like western world where you pay top $). Enjoy it while you can. Find the places you still get pussy for cheap. Feeling you have a right to sleep with 20 year girls for a price you think is sufficient is rubbish.
I'm looking forward to visiting Colombia towards the end of the year. Expecting competition to be stiff.[/QUOTE]I have never been the one to pay higher prices for something that I can get for lower that is the same or equivalent. That goes for anything. Why would you pay full price for same thing that you can get on sale?
[QUOTE=Kazeu;2535109]Where did I ever say I had the right to anything? I stated what might help keep prices down, which would would help everyone.
From a mongering perspective its definitely better for mongering if the girls stay poor. If the country stays poor.
You're right, its probably too late. But I will do my part and stop posting here. I've been posting out of gratitude for all the board has given me over the years.
I'm out. Enjoy.[/QUOTE]From a mongering perspective it is 100% better, and we all enjoy the economic imbalance that exists. I'm just saying the conversation around colluding to keep it that way is a harsh one. It's one thing hoping Colombia is still cheap, and another to actively form a movement online to ensure it stays that way for you. Doesn't mean I don't hope the opportunity remains for us all. Also, I can see the point you're making re: association of extra funds.
ISG does accelerate awareness, but people are chatting about where to get pussy everywhere.
The horse has far from bolted and the opportunity remains. I think in the next 10 years we will see a steady influx, in a similar way to Thailand years ago but we're still a way off that. Post covid will be the roaring 20's, I suggest we enjoy it.
[QUOTE=Kazeu;2533680]I've pretty much conceded that Colombia will eventually turn into the Thailand of the south america and head down the of places like Costa Rica. Just enjoy it while you can. The irony, is that its boards like this that contribute to the downfall. So much attention and people posting about all their experiences. Its kind of like how instagram has completely ruined certain places for travel. I'm old enough to remember that you used to go to places and experience what they were actually like vs experiencing the tourism of the place. There are places in the world that I have no desire to ever go to anymore after the instagram / facebook tourism boom. Fighting my way through hoards of tourists does not sound like a fun way to spend a vacation.
Theres a way to fight upward pricing. Just like theres a way to fight downward pricing. Its called collusion. Girls do it. Mongers should do it too, but I don't think theres enough will for that to ever happen. Most people don't really care if prices go up 200 or 300 percent, they've already come down, spent there weekend millionare money and gotten theirs. Its not a lifestyle to them, they don't live it. They *experience* it. The smart thing to do would be to not engage weekend millionaires. Let them find out information on their own.[/QUOTE]This is a pretty accurate assessment in my opinion. And as you said you can't stop evolution, Thailand is a great example. I get it's annoying but the notion the weekenders are spoiling it, for who? Just us. Everyone else wins. For that reason it's inevitable. Doesn't mean you can't still live the lifestyle, but it will change over time.
I'm probably somewhat younger than many on here. I would have loved to explore the world 30 years ago, before the gringos and farangs were everywhere, but it is what it is. I guess we can be happy in knowledge we experienced the glory days to some extent! I would bet if we look back in 20 years, we'll consider now to be exactly that.
I imagine tips to find these gems will become harder to find as mongers protect their shrinking patch. Supply and demand my friends.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2535094]Uhh if the girls were not poor then they would not need to be hookers.[/QUOTE]That's not strictly true though is it. There would still be hookers, in every country, look at the developed world. There are (and always will be) girls selling pussy. Whether they're poor enough to sell it for the price you want to pay, that's a different matter.
I think the facts are (whether we like it or not), the world is getting smaller, new mongers are being minted daily, income streams are becoming available online (onlyfans, webcam growing). The list goes on, and adds up.
Colombia's lax entry policy during the pandemic made it front and centre for sex tourism. The good news is it's the beginning of the Thailand effect. Many more years of fun to be had, at a reasonable rate. Having said that, I expect bigger crowds year on year.
[QUOTE=Kazeu;2535109]...From a mongering perspective its definitely better for mongering if the girls stay poor. If the country stays poor.....[/QUOTE]That is completely inferior thinking. The countries where it is worst for mongering are the world's poorest countries. Have you tried to monger in the poorest sub-Saharan African countries. The mongering in sub-Saharan Africa is better in the richer countries like South Africa and Kenya than the poorer countries. Same in the Middle East Dubai is the best mongering in the middle east. The poorest countries in the middle east are Afghanistan, Yemen, Syria. Lets go to Asia. The poorest countries in Asia are North Korea, Nepal, East Timor, Bangladesh, Pakistan, Myanmar. Have you been to an FKK in Germany? The poorest countries in Europe are Moldovia, Kosovo, Albania, Bosnia and Herzegovina, North Macedonia, Serbia Belarus, Montenegro - who mongers in those countries? Mongers prefer the Netherlands, Austria, Switzerland and even the UK. In the Americas who mongers in Honduras, Venezuela, Bolivia, Guyana, Suriname, Belize, Haiti. In the Americas mongers go to the wealthier countries like Panama, Colombia, Costa Rica and Brazil.
[QUOTE=Reignsupreme01;2534999]This whole mindset of keeping the market rate and how defensive guys are about it blows my mind. What you're essentially saying is, it's better for your pocket if the girls stay poor. I look up the market rate, and I'll keep it in mind but this whole colluding to keep prices low? You wonder why the left wing say the world is full of fat, middle aged white men rigging the game for themselves? Case and point.
The truth is the world will evolve, one day these girls will the preserve of the relatively well off (just like western world where you pay top $). Enjoy it while you can. Find the places you still get pussy for cheap. Feeling you have a right to sleep with 20 year girls for a price you think is sufficient is rubbish.
I'm looking forward to visiting Colombia towards the end of the year. Expecting competition to be stiff.[/QUOTE]I totally agree. If prices go up it's better to just try and be happy for the locals at your own expense. I made a post like this in general by accident meaning to post it here.
But I think it might not blow up as bad and as fast as everyone is saying. I noticed that Brazil's Real has weakened significantly against the dollar a lot more so than the Colombian Peso, so that will affect a lot of peoples decision to go there. You said that Colombia has become a "cool" vacation destination but I don't know if that's the same demographic as us. In other words, someone going to appreciate the architecture isn't going to inflate the price of the girls. Overall, I think the industry will grow and flourish comfortably to adapt to any increased demand without prices going up too much, at least for a little while. I'm curious as to just why people think it's going to blow up so fast other than just premonition. From what I can tell, it's been the way it is for a while, so why now?
[QUOTE=Turgid;2535201]That is completely inferior thinking. The countries where it is worst for mongering are the world's poorest countries. Have you tried to monger in the poorest sub-Saharan African countries. The mongering in sub-Saharan Africa is better in the richer countries like South Africa and Kenya than the poorer countries. Same in the Middle East Dubai is the best mongering in the middle east. The poorest countries in the middle east are Afghanistan, Yemen, Syria. Lets go to Asia. The poorest countries in Asia are North Korea, Nepal, East Timor, Bangladesh, Pakistan, Myanmar. Have you been to an FKK in Germany? The poorest countries in Europe are Moldovia, Kosovo, Albania, Bosnia and Herzegovina, North Macedonia, Serbia Belarus, Montenegro - who mongers in those countries? Mongers prefer the Netherlands, Austria, Switzerland and even the UK. In the Americas who mongers in Honduras, Venezuela, Bolivia, Guyana, Suriname, Belize, Haiti. In the Americas mongers go to the wealthier countries like Panama, Colombia, Costa Rica and Brazil.[/QUOTE]Obviously the poorest countries don't have the infrastructure to set up a good scene. If we were talking about overall quality of establishments and girls regardless of how much you're willing to spend, then yeah, German FKK clubs would be a top contender. But Everyone knows Europe is an expensive place to monger and if you try to save money you will have extremely mechanical experiences most places. I've had a couple good experiences in Spain for under 100 euros and Germany I had some good value yet still mechanical services, and I've had some great experiences for 100-150 euros. Some girls at FKK clubs will ask for like 400 euros and that's basically GF experience price for an hour or 2. Way too much IMO especially now that I've been to South America. But if I ever become a multi millionaire I'll move to Germany.
[QUOTE=MongerHunger;2535126]I have never been the one to pay higher prices for something that I can get for lower that is the same or equivalent. That goes for anything. Why would you pay full price for same thing that you can get on sale?[/QUOTE]You wouldn't. I wouldn't. I was merely pointing out, in order to want the girls to keep their prices low so mongers (you and I) can have cheap sex, you must also acknowledge that you're literally hoping they stay in some level of poverty (in some cases wishing to be regulator of the industry and its prices; see colluding posts). It's one thing taking advantage of the situation in parts of the world, quite another to suggest the worlds men collude to keep the girls just poor enough.
I get it, it sucks when the pussy doesn't think $20 is enough to sleep with a man 40 years her senior. When guys are doubling the rate and killing the game. When internet platforms are providing girls potential income. It sucks, but it literally only sucks for hardcore mongers, and they've had a hell of a ride over the years. The change (albeit slow IMO) is inevitable because for everyone else it's better.
[QUOTE=Talkyes;2535204]I totally agree. If prices go up it's better to just try and be happy for the locals at your own expense. I made a post like this in general by accident meaning to post it here.
But I think it might not blow up as bad and as fast as everyone is saying. I noticed that Brazil's Real has weakened significantly against the dollar a lot more so than the Colombian Peso, so that will affect a lot of peoples decision to go there. You said that Colombia has become a "cool" vacation destination but I don't know if that's the same demographic as us. In other words, someone going to appreciate the architecture isn't going to inflate the price of the girls. Overall, I think the industry will grow and flourish comfortably to adapt to any increased demand without prices going up too much, at least for a little while. I'm curious as to just why people think it's going to blow up so fast other than just premonition. From what I can tell, it's been the way it is for a while, so why now?[/QUOTE]Interesting point regarding the real, that will almost certainly have an impact. I think you'd be surprised, and maybe the main "culprits" for "putting up the prices" are the architecture etc lovers. The mainstream visitor, rather than the hardcore monger (the mainstream doesn't do the colluding thing and so spoils the game for those who choose to).
Also agree with you on the industry keeping up with demand for some time. In terms of Colombia being cool (I may be showing I'm a younger monger here) it is just premonition. Colombia has earned a pretty solid reputation across a lot of age groups / traveller types. Now couple that with the low entry requirements during the pandemic, putting it in the spotlight to every monger / person from here to Timbuktu. I think it's fair to say they can expect an uptick in every type of tourism, including sex. Whether it blows up or (more likely) steadily increases I'm not sure, but I think it's fair to say it's on the up.
Is anyone on the ground in Colombia? How are things looking in terms of ongoing lockdowns / quarantine? There's not a huge amount in the media. I've heard they've had a significant drop in cases for no apparent reason (like India and a few others). And of course the vaccine (albeit slow). What is the mood? And when do you guys guess we'll be back in the sky not facing a lockdown or quarantine at the other end?
[QUOTE=Talkyes;2535204]I totally agree. If prices go up it's better to just try and be happy for the locals at your own expense. I made a post like this in general by accident meaning to post it here.[/QUOTE]You are saying this as if the local GUYS do not monger. Prices only go up for the dumb foreigners that do not know any better and do not know how to source chicks the same way the locals do. For instance, I live in Thailand. You see guys saying how expensive it is to take a chick out of the gogo bar these days. Well I never took a girl out of the gogo bar and I am able to meet the same chicks and give them the same $30 for all night as I have been doing the last 14 years. Whereas others are shelling out well over $100. I know Kazeu and it will affect neither he nor I. We just try to look out for the other man. But people don't realize what they had until they have fucked it off.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2535320]You are saying this as if the local GUYS do not monger. Prices only go up for the dumb foreigners that do not know any better and do not know how to source chicks the same way the locals do. For instance, I live in Thailand. You see guys saying how expensive it is to take a chick out of the gogo bar these days. Well I never took a girl out of the gogo bar and I am able to meet the same chicks and give them the same $30 for all night as I have been doing the last 14 years. Whereas others are shelling out well over $100. I know Kazeu and it will affect neither he nor I. We just try to look out for the other man. But people don't realize what they had until they have fucked it off.[/QUOTE]I don't think he's suggesting the locals don't monger, he's saying it's OK when the locals start to do better. It's a market like any other and it's highly prized. Fantastic that you're plugged in and paying low rates, well done. You're calling people "dumb foreigners" because they're willing to pay more? Give me a break. Why should the average tourist care if pensions don't stretch that far? Or more to the point, why would the girls? What other of life's greatest pleasures can you afford for 20-30 a day? It's underpriced and the market will begin to adjust accordingly. You live in SEA, look at what's happened so far, and will continue to happen. They're levelling up, slowly but surely. Good luck to them.
I'm a monger and I'm not incredibly rich, this will also impact me, but let's be realistic and fair lads.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2535320]You are saying this as if the local GUYS do not monger. Prices only go up for the dumb foreigners that do not know any better and do not know how to source chicks the same way the locals do. For instance, I live in Thailand. You see guys saying how expensive it is to take a chick out of the gogo bar these days. Well I never took a girl out of the gogo bar and I am able to meet the same chicks and give them the same $30 for all night as I have been doing the last 14 years. Whereas others are shelling out well over $100. I know Kazeu and it will affect neither he nor I. We just try to look out for the other man. But people don't realize what they had until they have fucked it off.[/QUOTE]Yeah I mean you're always going to pay a premium if you go to a bar and have to have what you see right then and there. If you wait until the girls get off work and meet at the club, you'll get a better deal. If you get their number and schedule a session at a time that's convenient for them like in the day, then again you're saving money. If you've built a rapport with a girl, you might save money or you might just get better service for the same money, which is close enough. But it doesn't matter how strategic you are after a certain point. If enough people are in town willing to pay, the rates go up across the board, even for the locals. Theoretically at least.
[QUOTE=ReignSupreme01;2535218]You wouldn't. I wouldn't. I was merely pointing out, in order to want the girls to keep their prices low so mongers (you and I) can have cheap sex, you must also acknowledge that you're literally hoping they stay in some level of poverty (in some cases wishing to be regulator of the industry and its prices; see colluding posts). It's one thing taking advantage of the situation in parts of the world, quite another to suggest the worlds men collude to keep the girls just poor enough.[/QUOTE]Sigh. You know nothing. Again, you think the market is this incredible efficient machine where supply and demand magically work. Truth is that when someone comes in and pays 10 X the going rate, it hurts not helps the women because it disrupts the market. So if someone comes in and spends $50 for a gallon of gasoline, is that a good thing? No, it creates disruption and when a guy like you does that and looks for information for others on the local scene, you are going to be shut out. Kazeu has the information you seek but you were too busy lecturing him on the market reality and he has turned his back on you.
[QUOTE=ReignSupreme01;2535218]I get it, it sucks when the pussy doesn't think $20 is enough to sleep with a man 40 years her senior. When guys are doubling the rate and killing the game. When internet platforms are providing girls potential income. It sucks, but it literally only sucks for hardcore mongers, and they've had a hell of a ride over the years. The change (albeit slow IMO) is inevitable because for everyone else it's better.[/QUOTE]Wrong answer. You think prices will go up but Kazeu is there every day supporting the locals. Some guy goes in and fucks up the scene, and he leaves and finds another scene and the local market crumbles. You think guys will pay anything for pussy and they will not. They will take their money and play elsewhere. There is always going to be a new scene somewhere in the world.
You do not know this because of how young you are, but the price of a lap dance is the same today as it was in the 1980's, $20. I have seen women and clubs try so hard to get that price higher, and the reason it does not work is simple, $20 is for a woman dancing for 4 minutes. IOW, it is too damned high to begin with. But because the price point is known, I do not put up with shit from anyone trying to get more. So when a club tries jacking up the price or cutting the amount of songs in half, I walk. I have never had a hard time finding a girl willing to do a lap dance for $20. If some guy comes in and pays $100 a song and raises the rate to that level, I and guys like me take off and a club may go out of business because of it and then the woman is going to have NO income. So price discovery is good for all involved. I am not happy overpaying for a service, and I have not met a guy happy doing so either.
As for a woman sleeping with a guy 40 years her senior, all I can say is you are stereotyping women and have no clue how they really are. I have never seen a woman whoring herself out and saying it is okay because she is fucking 30 year old dick and not 70 year old dick. All that comment shows me is you do not understand women at all.
I've been hearing this discussion for years now. The same constant bullshit was on the other board years ago. The fact is, there is not one monger fits all. One mans floor is another mans ceiling. Some travel once a year or less, other many times a year and others live in Colombia for instance. Hello! There is no Monger Union jaja. You can't control what other guys do. Some girls will accept less others think they have gold and if one inexperienced guys pays stupid money they will try to hold out for that. I have seen it more than once where a girl working Vila Mimosa for 50 Reals and later that night she would work help and demand 300 reals.
The best you can do is to build up a private stable of girls that are open minded and fun. I have some that I have been seeing for 5 or 6 years some longer and others a few months. Just use your game, make the girl like you and don't be afraid to walk if she won't negotiate. "Women are like buses, another one comes along every 5 minutes!
[QUOTE=Talkyes;2535209]Obviously the poorest countries don't have the infrastructure to set up a good scene. If we were talking about overall quality of establishments and girls regardless of how much you're willing to spend, then yeah, German FKK clubs would be a top contender. But Everyone knows Europe is an expensive place to monger and if you try to save money you will have extremely mechanical experiences most places. I've had a couple good experiences in Spain for under 100 euros and Germany I had some good value yet still mechanical services, and I've had some great experiences for 100-150 euros. Some girls at FKK clubs will ask for like 400 euros and that's basically GF experience price for an hour or 2. Way too much IMO especially now that I've been to South America. But if I ever become a multi millionaire I'll move to Germany.[/QUOTE]I've read it before of mechanical service in Europe. This confuses me because some of my best sex has been in German FKKs. Yes I have gotten poor service but that is in the small minority similar to Latin American destinations with the exception of the DR where I've gotten a greater percentage of poor service. My favorite mongering destinations are German FKKs. Generally Brazilian garotas give better service but I still prefer to monger in Germany.
[QUOTE=ReignSupreme01;2535350]You're calling people "dumb foreigners" because they're willing to pay more?[/QUOTE]It is not what I am calling people. It is what the chicks that you want to make rich are calling people. What should a person be called when they walk in to McDonald's and volunteer to pay $5 for the same Big Mac everybody else is paying $2 for?
[QUOTE=ReignSupreme01;2535350]Give me a break. Why should the average tourist care if pensions don't stretch that far?
I'm a monger and I'm not incredibly rich, this will also impact me, but let's be realistic and fair lads.[/QUOTE]Were you around Colombia when the exchange rate was 1600 pesos to 1 USD? Were you around Brazil when the exchange rate was 1.59 reais to 1 USD? Were you around Dominican republic when a chick would stay with you all night for $30? I was.
Compare the keeping the girls poor rates you are paying today to the exchange rates of those days and you will see who will be coming out the poor ones. Those exchange rates could very well show up again. That is why you want to think about what things are costing from a local perspective and not from the perspective of back home or what you are able to get with your exhange rate. What is costing you $50 today could cost you $170 tomorrow on exchange rate alone. I think those "pensioners" that you mentioned that have lived this have a better grasp of the issue, treading lightly and not playing the weekend millionaire.
At the end of the day, I speak French, Portuguese, Spanish, and Thai and know my way around all these countries. I mostly only deal with normal chicks that are not hookers anyway, so it is not going to affect me. I am just trying to look out for the next monger.
[QUOTE=ReignSupreme01;2535218]You wouldn't. I wouldn't. I was merely pointing out, in order to want the girls to keep their prices low so mongers (you and I) can have cheap sex, you must also acknowledge that you're literally hoping they stay in some level of poverty (in some cases wishing to be regulator of the industry and its prices; see colluding posts). It's one thing taking advantage of the situation in parts of the world, quite another to suggest the worlds men collude to keep the girls just poor enough.[/QUOTE]I think you missed a point, he did not say don't give them more money, just don't associate the money with selling sex.
[QUOTE=ReignSupreme01;2535255]Is anyone on the ground in Colombia? How are things looking in terms of ongoing lockdowns / quarantine? There's not a huge amount in the media. I've heard they've had a significant drop in cases for no apparent reason (like India and a few others). And of course the vaccine (albeit slow). What is the mood? And when do you guys guess we'll be back in the sky not facing a lockdown or quarantine at the other end?[/QUOTE]You know that you just pissed off probably the only person on the ground who is posting regularly for no other reason than to give back, right?
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2535570]Were you around Colombia when the exchange rate was 1600 pesos to 1 USD? Were you around Brazil when the exchange rate was 1.59 reais to 1 USD? Were you around Dominican republic when a chick would stay with you all night for $30? I was.
Compare the keeping the girls poor rates you are paying today to the exchange rates of those days and you will see who will be coming out the poor ones. Those exchange rates could very well show up again. That is why you want to think about what things are costing from a local perspective and not from the perspective of back home or what you are able to get with your exhange rate. What is costing you $50 today could cost you $170 tomorrow on exchange rate alone. I think those "pensioners" that you mentioned that have lived this have a better grasp of the issue, treading lightly and not playing the weekend millionaire.[/QUOTE]Ain't that the truth? And mongers will go wherever their money goes the most.
A funny thing about Brazil. I was really interested in getting an account there in 2004 because they were paying 20% interest on a damned checking account and the dollar IMO was overvalued. The bureaucracy in opening an account was unreal and I could not do it. Three years later, and I figured out how but it was too late. That is around when the Real had gone from 2.5 per dollar to the 1.6 rate you spoke of.
I kept track of how crazy the Real got by tracking my hotel room. I stayed at the Intercontinental Hotel in the Paulista financial area. I paid $125 in 2004 per night. Then the hotel went to $300 and even $400. It was more expensive than the same IC hotel in NYC. That was when I knew the bubble was going to hit. Hell, a decent house in Asuncion Paraguay were going for $250,000 back then and the people in Paraguay were making $4000 a year on average.
Of course, the bubble burst then and the Great Recession followed. But I looked up how much the IC hotel was today and it is $100 a night.
Covid has done a number in Brazil, and I have gotten my vaccine, and my plan is to head there in April. I have already been on SA and am loading up on phone numbers. It is not as good as Bogota so far but I still have time.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2535566]I've read it before of mechanical service in Europe. This confuses me because some of my best sex has been in German FKKs...[/QUOTE]It has been my experience as well. I have rarely established a connection with an FKK girl, but the sex has always been outstanding. After 15+ years of visiting the FKK, I still find the girls very sexy.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2535570]It is not what I am calling people. It is what the chicks that you want to make rich are calling people. What should a person be called when they walk in to McDonald's and volunteer to pay $5 for the same Big Mac everybody else is paying $2 for?
Were you around Colombia when the exchange rate was 1600 pesos to 1 USD? Were you around Brazil when the exchange rate was 1.59 reais to 1 USD? Were you around Dominican republic when a chick would stay with you all night for $30? I was.
Compare the keeping the girls poor rates you are paying today to the exchange rates of those days and you will see who will be coming out the poor ones. Those exchange rates could very well show up again. That is why you want to think about what things are costing from a local perspective and not from the perspective of back home or what you are able to get with your exhange rate. What is costing you $50 today could cost you $170 tomorrow on exchange rate alone. I think those "pensioners" that you mentioned that have lived this have a better grasp of the issue, treading lightly and not playing the weekend millionaire.
At the end of the day, I speak French, Portuguese, Spanish, and Thai and know my way around all these countries. I mostly only deal with normal chicks that are not hookers anyway, so it is not going to affect me. I am just trying to look out for the next monger.[/QUOTE]It is what you called people but I didn't realize you talking on behalf of some girls, my mistake. Sex with beautiful women is probably one of the most desirable things on the planet and you're comparing it to the price of a Big Mac? A better analogy would be cocaine in the west; addictive, desirable.
I don't think I was around for those rates, roughly when was this? As I put in a previous post, I'm very jealous of the guys (like yourself) who lived some of those earlier experiences. That's the history I like to learn about, haha. The point you're making is, based on the historic exchange rate they are getting a much better deal now? In terms of what they can afford at a local level? I want to clarify that before I reply.
Great you can speak so many languages. I have a little Spanish but really need to knuckle down. I aspire to be multi lingual one day, maybe not quite to your level.
[QUOTE=Nounce;2535661]I think you missed a point, he did not say don't give them more money, just don't associate the money with selling sex.
You know that you just pissed off probably the only person on the ground who is posting regularly for no other reason than to give back, right?[/QUOTE]I think he might have missed my point initially? I don't overpay, like him. As I said I was referring to the inevitable rise and my dislike for the collusion conversation. Which is what I reiterated in my reply.
Sounds like a good bloke. I've probably read many of his posts, maybe benefited from some. I thank him for sharing. This notion I've pissed off a grown man debating price / collusion? I imagine the guy in question has thicker skin than to let anything I've said ruin his day to that extent. I can't see one thing I've said that isn't reasonable or wouldn't be shared by a good proportion of civilized society?
I commented on a post which essentially said (I paraphrase); it would be great if we could collude to fix pricing but there are too many men outside the monger club who wouldn't play ball, therefore it wouldn't work, sigh.
I just said even if you could get every man in the world to collude, governments should shut that down in a heartbeat because it's abhorrent. It's only purpose would be to keep people at the right level of poverty to suit your pocket. I'm not pro paying more, I'm anti large scale online collusion and such behavior. Sure, find out the market and be a bit frugal if you want.
[QUOTE=Lefeu;2535685]It has been my experience as well. I have rarely established a connection with an FKK girl, but the sex has always been outstanding. After 15+ years of visiting the FKK, I still find the girls very sexy.[/QUOTE]It's hit and miss in Europe regarding mechanical service. It generally feels more transactional to me. I get the impression it weighs on the girls souls a bit more in the west. Maybe because of social differences and stigmas. I think a lot more guys are going down the sugar daddy route more often. Girls get the benefit of perceiving they're not a hooker but instead in an arrangement with an older guy. Either way it's expensive in EU and the latter is a lot more effort than your standard p4P.
Yeah I can't figure it out. I live by AAWP. (avoid abbreviations whenever possible).
[QUOTE=Lefeu;2535685]It has been my experience as well. I have rarely established a connection with an FKK girl, but the sex has always been outstanding. After 15+ years of visiting the FKK, I still find the girls very sexy.[/QUOTE]It seems as though we have been going to FKKs for approximately the same period. I take it you are not interested in establishing a connection since that will take time which you would rather spend banging other FKK girls. When I first started going to FKKs I got invitation by girls to go on 'dates'. Once a Hungarian girl took me on a tour of the state of Hesse in her car.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2535909]It seems as though we have been going to FKKs for approximately the same period. I take it you are not interested in establishing a connection since that will take time which you would rather spend banging other FKK girls. When I first started going to FKKs I got invitation by girls to go on 'dates'. Once a Hungarian girl took me on a tour of the state of Hesse in her car.[/QUOTE]It's rare for the average guy to take the time but it does happen as you point out. I once met an Irish hooker (at a party my obscenely rich boss threw, girls on tap). We got on like a house on fire and are still in touch. Since she's worked in Europe, US, the Middle East. I visited her at her swanky apartment in Dubai (as well as Europe a few times) , she showed me around, we fucked, I left when my 4 days were up. No charge, just catching up as friends. I should probably note she was 21 ish, I was 30 when we met, the Dubai thing was a few years later so we had a fair amount in common. Sure it could and would have developed but who wants an ex hooker as a wife!
After my fantastic trip last year that I reported on I am desperate for another. I keep thinking of how much fun I had at La Mezzanine.
Does anyone know if La Mezzanine is open right now? Since I have been working from home I figured I would work from Colombia for a week. Get a hotel near La Mezzanine (are the other MP's open in that area?) and be able to go there often from a hotel that is close by and still get my work done.
Also I read today that Colombia is requiring day quarantine on arrival.
-Does this mean you have to stay in your room etc for days?
-Do I need a COVID test to enter with proof and a COVID test to re enter the USA with proof?
If Colombia is too tough to get into right now due to COVID any suggestions other than Brazil (too far) to go for a working vacation?
Showdown.
[QUOTE=Showdown;2535973]After my fantastic trip last year that I reported on I am desperate for another. I keep thinking of how much fun I had at La Mezzanine.
Does anyone know if La Mezzanine is open right now? Since I have been working from home I figured I would work from Colombia for a week. Get a hotel near La Mezzanine (are the other MP's open in that area?) and be able to go there often from a hotel that is close by and still get my work done.
Also I read today that Colombia is requiring day quarantine on arrival.
-Does this mean you have to stay in your room etc for days?
-Do I need a COVID test to enter with proof and a COVID test to re enter the USA with proof?
If Colombia is too tough to get into right now due to COVID any suggestions other than Brazil (too far) to go for a working vacation?
Showdown.[/QUOTE]Yes Mezzanine is open. There is no quarantaine required as long as you enter Colombia with a negative PCR test from less than 96 hours.
[QUOTE=Talkyes;2535908]Yeah I can't figure it out. I live by AAWP. (avoid abbreviations whenever possible).[/QUOTE]Seeking Arrangement.
Anyone know if the clubs in Santa Fe are open?
[QUOTE=Routard;2536212]Yes Mezzanine is open. There is no quarantaine required as long as you enter Colombia with a negative PCR test from less than 96 hours.[/QUOTE]Thanks Routard. Does anyone know if I need a negative PCR test to re-enter the USA?
[QUOTE=Showdown;2536341]Thanks Routard. Does anyone know if I need a negative PCR test to re-enter the USA?[/QUOTE]Yes, as of January 27.
[QUOTE=Showdown;2536341]Thanks Routard. Does anyone know if I need a negative PCR test to re-enter the USA?[/QUOTE]For the USA you need an Antigen test.
[URL]https://www.iatatravelcentre.com/world.php[/URL]
[QUOTE=LatinaLover#1;2536372]For the USA you need an Antigen test.
[URL]https://www.iatatravelcentre.com/world.php[/URL][/QUOTE]This is from the link you shared:
2. Passengers entering or transiting through the USA must have a medical certificate with a negative Coronavirus (COVID-19) viral antigen, NAAT, RT-LAMP, RT-PCR or TMA test result. The test must have been taken at most 3 days before departure from the first embarkation point.
[QUOTE=Showdown;2536341]Thanks Routard. Does anyone know if I need a negative PCR test to re-enter the USA?[/QUOTE]You need a negative test, but it doesn't have to be a PCR test.
The state department website ([URL]https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/traveladvisories/ea/covid-19-information.html[/URL]) refers you to the CDC website for acceptable tests:
The CDC website below (as linked by the State Department).
[URL]https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/travelers/testing-international-air-travelers.html[/URL]
It states they accept both Antigen and PCR tests. You'll save a good amount of money getting an Antigen test and it's typically faster. I was just in Bogota and I didn't know this so I ended up paying $$ for a Rapid PCR (yes, they have Rapid PCR tests now as opposed to the much cheaper Rapid Antigen tests).
"Passengers must be tested with a viral test that could be either an antigen test or a nucleic acid amplification test (NAAT). Available NAATs for SARS-CoV-2 include reverse transcription polymerase chain reaction (RT-PCR), reverse transcription loop-mediated isothermal amplification (RT-LAMP), transcription-mediated amplification (TMA), nicking enzyme amplification reaction (NEAR), and helicase-dependent amplification (HDA)."
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2536393]This is from the link you shared:
2. Passengers entering or transiting through the USA must have a medical certificate with a negative Coronavirus (COVID-19) viral antigen, NAAT, RT-LAMP, RT-PCR or TMA test result. The test must have been taken at most 3 days before departure from the first embarkation point.[/QUOTE]Can anyone recommend a place to have the test done before going back to the USA?
Mississippi and Texas just relaxed the mandatory mask law and no longer require the public to wear masks. Hopefully the rest of the country will follow suit. If that happens maybe we can dump these required asinine tests to travel.
[QUOTE=Showdown;2536899]Can anyone recommend a place to have the test done before going back to the USA?[/QUOTE]I have an appointment tomorrow for an antigen test. What a Rip-off pain in the ass on a global scale.
Using [URL]https://www.synlab.co/covid19/[/URL] We shall see.
[QUOTE=Woodman09;2537135]I have an appointment tomorrow for an antigen test. What a Rip-off pain in the ass on a global scale.
Using [URL]https://www.synlab.co/covid19/[/URL] We shall see.[/QUOTE]Hey Woodman LL here, how much did they charge you for the Antigen test?
Think again about wearing Masks.
[URL]https://www.yahoo.com/news/brazils-covid-crisis-warning-whole-194006373.html[/URL]
[QUOTE=LatinaLover#1;2537049]Mississippi and Texas just relaxed the mandatory mask law and no longer require the public to wear masks. Hopefully the rest of the country will follow suit. If that happens maybe we can dump these required asinine tests to travel.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Woodman09;2537135]I have an appointment tomorrow for an antigen test. What a Rip-off pain in the ass on a global scale.
Using [URL]https://www.synlab.co/covid19/[/URL] We shall see.[/QUOTE]So got there ok. It is on the left as you enter the airport these buildings are apart.
Really don't have time for a long post as I'm traveling soon. I did pass tho got results in less than 2 hours.
[QUOTE=Woodman09;2537421]So got there ok. It is on the left as you enter the airport these buildings are apart.
Really don't have time for a long post as I'm traveling soon. I did pass tho got results in less than 2 hours.[/QUOTE]Sounds like a great alternative to running around the city before your travel date. I'd much rather show up at El Dorado a few hours early for my flight and get everything handled at one time. Good heads up.
[QUOTE=LatinaLover#1;2537494]Sounds like a great alternative to running around the city before your travel date. I'd much rather show up at El Dorado a few hours early for my flight and get everything handled at one time. Good heads up.[/QUOTE]Yes, I suppose it is better as long as you pass the antigen test-- The PCR test takes 2 days or so and costs $100? The Antigen test costs $40 or so.
Attached is a photo showing the testing center.
[QUOTE=Woodman09;2537529]Yes, I suppose it is better as long as you pass the antigen test-- The PCR test takes 2 days or so and costs $100? The Antigen test costs $40 or so.
Attached is a photo showing the testing center.[/QUOTE]Is the testing ctr. Just below the car AMP up to departing flights? Is it an easy walk up to the terminal?
I read on the us embassy site "Travelers are expected to quarantine for 10 days or 7 days with a negative test 3-5 days after arrival."
I get the impression that it is mandatory to quarantine. From what I can find on other sites, I thought that you just need a negative covid test within 96 hours and no quarantine required. Can someone confirm?
[QUOTE=LatinaLover#1;2537783]Is the testing ctr. Just below the car AMP up to departing flights? Is it an easy walk up to the terminal?[/QUOTE]Very simple, as you enter the airport grounds it is the out buildings on the left. Right across from the bus stop-- I believe that is test center 1 as that is where I picked when I made my appointment.
Departures are on the 2nd floor-- I think it is easy to get there. You must make an appointment on.
[URL]https://saas.pacificmedicalsuite.com/pacific-sch/appointment.php/web/3[/URL]
[URL]https://www.synlab.co/[/URL]
It definitely worth coming-- Been hitting SF every night lately -- So much hot pussy everywhere.
I put this in my blog but just to be thorough I posting in each city report thread.
Here is a chart that shows city by city testing locations, type of test and test costs. As well as turnaround times.
https://co.usembassy.gov/wp-content/uploads/sites/103/COVID-Testing-Locations-in-Colombia.pdf
IF it is not clickable then in a chrome bowser you should be able to highlight and choose the "go to..." option. Any other browser and you may have to copy and paste the URL into the address window.
[QUOTE=Blade2001;2536276]Anyone know if the clubs in Santa Fe are open?[/QUOTE]Hi,
Did you get an answer?
I am thinking of going to Colombia (Bogota or Medellin) but I wanted to know if the clubs are open? Otherwise it is quite hard to find quality level ladies.
Thanks.
Was there last night. Most of them were open. E. Q. Troya was.
[QUOTE=Blade2001;2536276]Anyone know if the clubs in Santa Fe are open?[/QUOTE]
Hi,
Long time lurker and I'm jumping back in the lifestyle after over 10 years inactive. Never was a hardcore hobbyist and only know a little about my local NYC scene. I'm travelling to Bogota for the 1st time in late May or June and I want to have the best info I can for when out I'm there. Any help is appreciated. Thank you for all the good post and keep up the good work.
P.S. I am doing my homework, reading post, ect. No need to remind me of that. Not looking for someone to do the work for me and I'm willing to do as much as I can on my own. I'll play nice, please do the same.
[QUOTE=LatinaLover#1;2500406]I have never used a sleeve and I've been using my CC for years in Colombia. I have used it on Uber, Hooters and Buffalo Wild wings, never a problem. Carrying cash in Bogota is not the best idea either. What I do is keep most of my cash in a account without a debit card and only transfer as much cash as I need into the debit card. I've had more problems on Seeking Arrangement with an online cash app than I have anywhere else. Stay away.[/QUOTE]You mentioned cash app issues. Can you please explain. Thanks in advance.
[QUOTE=ProneToBone;2538546]Hi,
Long time lurker and I'm jumping back in the lifestyle after over 10 years inactive. Never was a hardcore hobbyist and only know a little about my local NYC scene. I'm travelling to Bogota for the 1st time in late May or June and I want to have the best info I can for when out I'm there. Any help is appreciated. Thank you for all the good post and keep up the good work.
P.S. I am doing my homework, reading post, ect. No need to remind me of that. Not looking for someone to do the work for me and I'm willing to do as much as I can on my own. I'll play nice, please do the same.[/QUOTE]Check out my report from last year on my trip. It should help you.
Showdown.
You Guys are horny and not reading the past reports.
First get your Covid shots or.
Stay home.
[QUOTE=WorldTravel69;2539062]You Guys are horny and not reading the past reports.
First get your Covid shots or.
Stay home.[/QUOTE]One would think its the horny guys who are doing all the reading here seeing that they do not have access to hot chicas.
I thought people would be interested to hear what happened to me last night.
I went to santa fe around 10 pm. It was my first time in the night time scene for a long time. Usually I go in the afternoon. Lots of people around. Night time brings out the worst in people. Drunk and stupid. I was standing against a building and just checking out some chicas across the street. This was about 3 or 4 buildings south of the eastern entrance to Troya. There was a group of 4 or 5 guys standing about 10 to 15 feet away from me. They were facing me and yelling some stuff out. I didn't understand what they were saying. My spanish isn't good enough to pick things up unless I am consciously making effort to understand. I thought they were yelling some stuff out to someone further down the street. I stood there for a couple minutes looking at the girls across the street before turning south away from the group of men to walk away. I walked about 20 feet and I felt something hard hit me in my upper back close to the left side of my neck. At first I thought someone had dropped something from a window above. I looked up and saw nothing. I looked at the ground to try to figure out what it was, but there was nothing obvious. Nothing behind me either. I looked back at the group of guys who were trying to hold back giggles and laughter. I can only conclude that they had thrown something at me. It was something hard. It very well could have hit me in the back of my head. Who knows. I didn't make a big deal of it, but it definitely shook me up. I don't know why someone would do that. I try to mind my own business and not bother anyone, but even if you do that, stupid people will always be stupid.
This is just a warning to never let your guard down in Santa Fe. Its when you start to feel comfortable that something bad will happen. Things are starting to get busier and the stupid people are coming back.
[QUOTE=Routard;2538939]Here is a complete FAQ about Bogota:
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?3865-Bogota-FAQ&p=2241562&viewfull=1[/URL]#post2241562.
This was pre-covid, a lot of things have changed and will change untill you will be here.[/QUOTE]Abu Dubai spa is closed.
Loutrons charging 390 mil for one hour. There were 8 nasty looking girls tonight. I would not have paid 30 mil. One local beer 45 mil pesos. I asked 5 x (in Spanish) because I thought it was a misprint on the menu, wtf?
I should have asked while I was down there. I feel like an idiot LOL. What casas are open? I used the doncolombia list but more often than not coming up empty last month. My fall back was the street action and strip clubs. I was really hoping to also find the Oriental and Thai massage spots. One thing I will definitely say it that google maps offline is your friend. The building numbers and street layouts are a little funky. You thing you're facing the right building, but it may be around the corner. Zooming in and seeing your location in relation to the address was super helpful.
Someone asked about MPs earlier I think. I went to Nanxing in Galerias which was very nice (see pics).
On a side note looks like I finally got my paid subscription set up (I still curse the voodoo that is bitcoin LOL). But now that I'm stuck in the states till my Tokyo Thailand trip I feel like I'm on a gravy train with biscuit wheels with nowhere to go.
[QUOTE=ProneToBone;2538546]Hi,
Long time lurker and I'm jumping back in the lifestyle after over 10 years inactive. Never was a hardcore hobbyist and only know a little about my local NYC scene. I'm travelling to Bogota for the 1st time in late May or June and I want to have the best info I can for when out I'm there. Any help is appreciated. Thank you for all the good post and keep up the good work.
P.S. I am doing my homework, reading post, ect. No need to remind me of that. Not looking for someone to do the work for me and I'm willing to do as much as I can on my own. I'll play nice, please do the same.[/QUOTE]I definitely found Routard's post helpful along with the other contributions from the senior members.
[QUOTE=Kazeu;2539574]I thought people would be interested to hear what happened to me last night.
I went to santa fe around 10 pm. It was my first time in the night time scene for a long time. Usually I go in the afternoon. Lots of people around. Night time brings out the worst in people. Drunk and stupid. I was standing against a building and just checking out some chicas across the street. This was about 3 or 4 buildings south of the eastern entrance to Troya. There was a group of 4 or 5 guys standing about 10 to 15 feet away from me. They were facing me and yelling some stuff out. I didn't understand what they were saying. My spanish isn't good enough to pick things up unless I am consciously making effort to understand. I thought they were yelling some stuff out to someone further down the street. I stood there for a couple minutes looking at the girls across the street before turning south away from the group of men to walk away. I walked about 20 feet and I felt something hard hit me in my upper back close to the left side of my neck. At first I thought someone had dropped something from a window above. I looked up and saw nothing. I looked at the ground to try to figure out what it was, but there was nothing obvious. Nothing behind me either. I looked back at the group of guys who were trying to hold back giggles and laughter. I can only conclude that they had thrown something at me. It was something hard. It very well could have hit me in the back of my head. Who knows. I didn't make a big deal of it, but it definitely shook me up. I don't know why someone would do that. I try to mind my own business and not bother anyone, but even if you do that, stupid people will always be stupid.
This is just a warning to never let your guard down in Santa Fe. Its when you start to feel comfortable that something bad will happen. Things are starting to get busier and the stupid people are coming back.[/QUOTE]Never drink in Santa Fe and always be on guard. The best things is to go to a hardware store and buy a box cutter. Always go for the eyes and always walk away after. Most of the street trash just confront. There are usually many people near Troya. A few slaps across the face and you will make you point.
I guess you missed these.
In these times it is hard to keep them up to date.
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2205-Bogota-Lists[/URL]
[QUOTE=MistaDynamite;2539626]I should have asked while I was down there. I feel like an idiot LOL. What casas are open? I used the doncolombia list but more often than not coming up empty last month. My fall back was the street action and strip clubs. I was really hoping to also find the Oriental and Thai massage spots. One thing I will definitely say it that google maps offline is your friend. The building numbers and street layouts are a little funky. You thing you're facing the right building, but it may be around the corner. Zooming in and seeing your location in relation to the address was super helpful.
Someone asked about MPs earlier I think. I went to Nanxing in Galerias which was very nice (see pics).
On a side note looks like I finally got my paid subscription set up (I still curse the voodoo that is bitcoin LOL). But now that I'm stuck in the states till my Tokyo Thailand trip I feel like I'm on a gravy train with biscuit wheels with nowhere to go.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=GhostRecon;2539608]Abu Dubai spa is closed.
Loutrons charging 390 mil for one hour. There were 8 nasty looking girls tonight. I would not have paid 30 mil. One local beer 45 mil pesos. I asked 5 x (in Spanish) because I thought it was a misprint on the menu, wtf?[/QUOTE]Damn. I forgot to mention what I paid. 190 mil for 1 hour including wine which they threw in since it was my first visit. I did buy my masseuse a Smirnoff ice for 20 mil so 210 mil altogether. She had a real cute face and nice body clothes on and off. She was the only one available at the time. Cool friendly personality. Not a bad massage as well. As I was leaving I did catch a glimpse of her coworker who looked tall with a nice body also. I'll definitely go back.
[QUOTE=WorldTravel69;2539764]I guess you missed these.
In these times it is hard to keep them up to date.
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2205-Bogota-Lists[/URL][/QUOTE]No worries. I knew there was a risk of some / most not being open. Again I could have helped my cause by asking on the board before venturing out. Some had phone numbers that maybe worked. In my basic gringo Spanish ask if they were open. But therein lies part of the fun. I got to travel and see other parts of the city and get comfortable riding the transmilenio. After leaving Tantra Sex, which I didn't like, I found a cafe to slide into while it was raining. I drank Jameson shots while watching the nurses walk by in scrubs hugging their curves. Occasionally I'd exchange glances or catch a few sneaking a side glance as they walked by.
[QUOTE=Marglo;2539653]Never drink in Santa Fe and always be on guard. The best things is to go to a hardware store and buy a box cutter. Always go for the eyes and always walk away after. Most of the street trash just confront. There are usually many people near Troya. A few slaps across the face and you will make you point.[/QUOTE]Holy fuck. Yeah this is great advice if you think standing up to drunk hooligans is worth your life. I've had my share of scraps in my city, even with people much bigger than me who I had no business fighting with, but in a foreign country I will always put my safety before my ego. I'm not ashamed to admit I have allowed myself to be bullied by children while traveling just because of the unpredictability of it all. Their older brothers who like stabbing gringos could be right around the corner. There's just too many sketchy variables when you're away from home. It's not worth it. My dude did the right thing by walking it off. Even if he successfully stood up for himself, he then has to watch his back twice as much when he goes to Santa Fe.
[QUOTE=Marglo;2539653]Never drink in Santa Fe and always be on guard. The best things is to go to a hardware store and buy a box cutter. Always go for the eyes and always walk away after. Most of the street trash just confront. There are usually many people near Troya. A few slaps across the face and you will make you point.[/QUOTE]These are insane posts and contrary to the forum rules. I wish you get banned and never come back to ISG.
[QUOTE=Questner;2539881]These are insane posts and contrary to the forum rules. I wish you get banned and never come back to ISG.[/QUOTE]Suggesting one defend oneself is objectionable to you for some reason? You prefer the beta response, just submit.
[QUOTE=ProneToBone;2538699]You mentioned cash app issues. Can you please explain. Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]Cash app is littered with scams and clones. I've had many girls ask me to send money to them on cash app, I never send money to girls I have never met so these request always go unanswered. I have never opened a cash app but all of a sudden I received a cash app card in the mail and a short time later my bank texted me asking if I had authorized a 740 dollar cash app withdrawal from my account. Of course I called them immediately to stop it. I contacted cash app and explained to them I never opened the card, don't want it and to cancel it NOW. Long story short, 6 months later and dozens of email later they finally agreed to cancel the account. Since then I have read scores of stories and nightmares about cash app. Stay away.
[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2539891]Suggesting one defend oneself is objectionable to you for some reason? You prefer the beta response, just submit.[/QUOTE]Going up to a group of sketchy drunk dudes in a foreign country where you don't speak the language and stabbing them in the eyes with a box cutter because one of them threw something at you. If I'm a beta for thinking that's bad advice then someone get me soy latte and fuck my wife for me please.
[QUOTE=Talkyes;2539877]Holy fuck. Yeah this is great advice if you think standing up to drunk hooligans is worth your life. I've had my share of scraps in my city, even with people much bigger than me who I had no business fighting with, but in a foreign country I will always put my safety before my ego. I'm not ashamed to admit I have allowed myself to be bullied by children while traveling just because of the unpredictability of it all. Their older brothers who like stabbing gringos could be right around the corner. There's just too many sketchy variables when you're away from home. It's not worth it. My dude did the right thing by walking it off. Even if he successfully stood up for himself, he then has to watch his back twice as much when he goes to Santa Fe.[/QUOTE]Using a box cutter to fend off petty criminals in a Latin America country. What a fantastic way to end up in a morgue or prison! Problem solved.
[QUOTE=Xpartan;2539966]Using a box cutter to fend off petty criminals [/QUOTE]Are you suggesting robbery is a petty crime? If my life is being threatened in Latin America or anywhere else I don't consider that a petty situation, you're welcome to.
But don't go telling others to consider it "no big deal", I like his advice, slash them across the eyes with a razor blade, lets see how soon they retire from their (according to you) noble profession.
[QUOTE=Marglo;2539653]Never drink in Santa Fe and always be on guard. The best things is to go to a hardware store and buy a box cutter. Always go for the eyes and always walk away after....[/QUOTE]I take it you give this advice from experience of successfully doing this yourself.
[QUOTE=Talkyes;2539938]Going up to a group of sketchy drunk dudes in a foreign country where you don't speak the language and stabbing them in the eyes with a box cutter because one of them threw something at you. If I'm a beta for thinking that's bad advice then someone get me soy latte and fuck my wife for me please.[/QUOTE]You've got to know when to hold 'them.
Know when to fold 'them.
Know when to walk away.
Know when to run.
But you want to add know when to take your box cutter out?
Maybe you forgot about the part where there was a GROUP of sketchy drunk dudes in a place where you did not know the land nor the language. You have been watching too many action movies where they come at you one at a time dude. They did not stop making box cutters the day that they made yours. RUN your hit ass back to your hotel and live another day.
I am from the USA and have carried a gun damn near every day for the last 28 years. As a matter of fact, I literally have one for every day of the month. But I am not fool enough to do any dumb shit like you suggest.
[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2540026]Are you suggesting robbery is a petty crime? If my life is being threatened in Latin America or anywhere else I don't consider that a petty situation, you're welcome to.
But don't go telling others to consider it "no big deal", I like his advice, slash them across the eyes with a razor blade, lets see how soon they retire from their (according to you) noble profession.[/QUOTE]The situation in question did not involve a robbery. It was just a group of guys who threw something at someone after he turned his back and then gave themselves up by laughing. But I can't say that changes my stance very much. If you're getting robbed by a group, shit there goes your money. If you pull out a knife on them, shit, there goes your life. At least one of them will probably have a knife that was made to cut more than cardboard but even if not you're still fucked. You'd need something with reach like a bat or a golf club if you want any hope of taking on a group. Again, not saying that's a good idea. I would agree that it sounds like some of us may have seen too many action movies.
When they get drunk, Colombian guys are the worst guys on the earth I've ever seen. And the difference between how they act when they are alone and when they form a clique, is amazing. (Almost) two centuries of violent history of Colombia is not surprising at all.
[QUOTE=Kazeu;2539574]I thought people would be interested to hear what happened to me last night.
I went to santa fe around 10 pm. It was my first time in the night time scene for a long time. Usually I go in the afternoon. Lots of people around. Night time brings out the worst in people. Drunk and stupid. I was standing against a building and just checking out some chicas across the street. This was about 3 or 4 buildings south of the eastern entrance to Troya. There was a group of 4 or 5 guys standing about 10 to 15 feet away from me. They were facing me and yelling some stuff out. I didn't understand what they were saying. My spanish isn't good enough to pick things up unless I am consciously making effort to understand. I thought they were yelling some stuff out to someone further down the street. I stood there for a couple minutes looking at the girls across the street before turning south away from the group of men to walk away. I walked about 20 feet and I felt something hard hit me in my upper back close to the left side of my neck. At first I thought someone had dropped something from a window above. I looked up and saw nothing. I looked at the ground to try to figure out what it was, but there was nothing obvious. Nothing behind me either. I looked back at the group of guys who were trying to hold back giggles and laughter. I can only conclude that they had thrown something at me. It was something hard. It very well could have hit me in the back of my head. Who knows. I didn't make a big deal of it, but it definitely shook me up. I don't know why someone would do that. I try to mind my own business and not bother anyone, but even if you do that, stupid people will always be stupid.
This is just a warning to never let your guard down in Santa Fe. Its when you start to feel comfortable that something bad will happen. Things are starting to get busier and the stupid people are coming back.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Xpartan;2539966]Using a box cutter to fend off petty criminals in a Latin America country. What a fantastic way to end up in a morgue or prison! Problem solved.[/QUOTE]Great idea for sure. Not sure about Colombian law. You may have a right to self defense. But I'm willing to be that defending yourself in that way would get you a very long sentence, or the shorter version where you never leave.
Went to santa fe at the beginning of the week; not as many girls but cheaper overall. You can get a decent Venezolana for only 30000 room included ($10).
I had my covid test antigen test done at Colcan lab. $30. Result delivered within 4 hours. No need for an appointment.
[QUOTE=Talkyes;2540057]The situation in question did not involve a robbery. It was just a group of guys who threw something at someone after he turned his back and then gave themselves up by laughing. But I can't say that changes my stance very much. If you're getting robbed by a group, shit there goes your money. If you pull out a knife on them, shit, there goes your life. At least one of them will probably have a knife that was made to cut more than cardboard but even if not you're still fucked. You'd need something with reach like a bat or a golf club if you want any hope of taking on a group. Again, not saying that's a good idea. I would agree that it sounds like some of us may have seen too many action movies.[/QUOTE]As Mr E wrote.
You've got to know when to hold 'them.
Know when to fold 'them.
Know when to walk away.
Know when to run.
But you want to add know when to take your box cutter out?
If 5 huge guys pin you in a corner, guess what? Now if 1 big ass drunk is coming at me guess what, if I have a box cutter in my pocket he's getting cut, and it won't be pretty.
He will probably wake up like Helen Keller.
Every situation is different and will require really fast thinking and decision making, that's why mongers should not drink or get high in 3rd world shitholes like Sante Fe Tijuana El Centro MDE et al.
I've been studying Colombia and it isn't FKK or bkk.
I think anyone that likes to get high or drunk needs to stay home.
[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2540224]If 5 huge guys pin you in a corner, guess what? Now if 1 big ass drunk is coming at me guess what, if I have a box cutter in my pocket he's getting cut, and it won't be pretty.
He will probably wake up like Helen Keller.
I think anyone that likes to get high or drunk needs to stay home.
I've been studying Colombia and it isn't FKK or bkk. [/QUOTE]OK so what's your superhero origin story that would explain why being equipped with a knife designed to cut boxes puts you at an advantage over 5 dudes with potentially better weapons? Because the ability to refrain from drugs and alcohol is great, don't get me wrong, but it's not enough. And no amount of studying foreign cultures is going to help you out of that situation either.
[QUOTE=Showdown;2538900]Check out my report from last year on my trip. It should help you.
Showdown.[/QUOTE]Done. Very good. Thanks.
[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2540026]Are you suggesting robbery is a petty crime? If my life is being threatened in Latin America or anywhere else I don't consider that a petty situation, you're welcome to.
But don't go telling others to consider it "no big deal", I like his advice, slash them across the eyes with a razor blade, lets see how soon they retire from their (according to you) noble profession.[/QUOTE]Posts like this surface in Colombia topics quite often. I wonder what it is about this country that makes people so worked-up.
Kazeu was the one who posted about the incident. Someone from a group of street punks threw something at him. Rather than escalate and risk his life, he walked away and I applaud him for it.
Then another member posted his box-cutter tip. Well, that would be a hell of an overreaction to. Yes - a "petty" act in my book.
Now, when your life is threatened, it's a totally different matter, and no one would blame you. But that incident wasn't about saving one's life, just a bruised ego.
Looking for a PCR test in LA area, for return to Colombia, anyone have a recommendation?
Just wanted to mention:
At the Synlab test center at the airport you can get your rapid antigen test without appointment. Opposite to what the website says.
Results came by email within 90 minutes.
This was required for me to get home.
[QUOTE=BigButtDetecto;2540185]Went to santa fe at the beginning of the week; not as many girls but cheaper overall. You can get a decent Venezolana for only 30000 room included ($10).
I had my covid test antigen test done at Colcan lab. $30. Result delivered within 4 hours. No need for an appointment.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Woodman09;2540661]Looking for a PCR test in LA area, for return to Colombia, anyone have a recommendation?[/QUOTE]CVS. Get on their website and make an appointment.
The hotel telephoned some testing site. The site sent a technician to my suite and I had the results emailed to me a few hours later. It was easy.
[QUOTE=Showdown;2499213]My first trip to Bogota was quite interesting.
One nice thing about this area during the day. If you are walking back to IBIS go up to Carrera 7. The street is closed and there are many stores to go to including stores where you can get a SIM. Woodman09 took me to a phone store here and I quickly got a SIM with 2 GB. Walking back to IBIS (which is a straight shot from IBIS) I got a great burger and bought some souvenirs.[/QUOTE]Good writeup. I'll be heading to Medellin soon and will likely stop in Bogota for a few day-week to check it out first. I will need a local sim and am curious, the place that you purchased your sim what company was it with? If its something that I can work with my entire trip, I'll just grab the sim there and keep it for my entire time in Colombia as long as its a new sim that lasts and not one of the stolen ones that get disconnected that I hear about.
[QUOTE=Woodman09;2540661]Looking for a PCR test in LA area, for return to Colombia, anyone have a recommendation?[/QUOTE]Woodman, I do not know what your time frame is, but I will be headed to Bogota tomorrow. I am not sure I will need a PCR even though I got one. If you have time, I will post tomorrow if I needed it. I think Mr. E posted an article that the PCR requirement may not be needed anymore given a judge's ruling.
What sucked for me is that my fucking PCR test was more expensive than my ticket. I got a killer deal on Spirit.
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2540766]Woodman, I do not know what your time frame is, but I will be headed to Bogota tomorrow. I am not sure I will need a PCR even though I got one. If you have time, I will post tomorrow if I needed it. I think Mr. E posted an article that the PCR requirement may not be needed anymore given a judge's ruling.
What sucked for me is that my fucking PCR test was more expensive than my ticket. I got a killer deal on Spirit.[/QUOTE]Elvis have fun. I am eager to here you report and comparison to MTY. As you know I have been in MTY for the last few days, so good.
You almost have me convinced about going to Bogota after work slows down a little. MDE is not for me, but I do think I would like Bog. Have fun.
Not sure your time frame but Costco now sells saliva PCR tests kit for home and the results are returned in 72 hrs. The kit costs $115. [URL]Costco.com[/URL] has the info. It is a little complicated with a video call to view your test sample, then into overnight box to the lab.
[QUOTE=Woodman09;2540661]Looking for a PCR test in LA area, for return to Colombia, anyone have a recommendation?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2540766]Woodman, I do not know what your time frame is, but I will be headed to Bogota tomorrow. I am not sure I will need a PCR even though I got one. If you have time, I will post tomorrow if I needed it. I think Mr. E posted an article that the PCR requirement may not be needed anymore given a judge's ruling.
What sucked for me is that my fucking PCR test was more expensive than my ticket. I got a killer deal on Spirit.[/QUOTE]Here in LA to get results quick like 12 hours it is costing me $175. Going tomorrow.
CVS is $139,1-2 days no guarantee on that tho-.
[QUOTE=Woodman09;2541170]Here in LA to get results quick like 12 hours it is costing me $175. Going tomorrow.
CVS is $139,1-2 days no guarantee on that tho-.[/QUOTE]They are still requiring PCR test to get on flight to Colombia. No change. It sucks.
[QUOTE=Talkyes;2539938]Going up to a group of sketchy drunk dudes in a foreign country where you don't speak the language and stabbing them in the eyes with a box cutter because one of them threw something at you. If I'm a beta for thinking that's bad advice then someone get me soy latte and fuck my wife for me please.[/QUOTE]Hahaha. Almost choked on my chia pudding reading this!
What are they saying if you had shots and the card that the nurse gives you that proves it?
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2541199]They are still requiring PCR test to get on flight to Colombia. No change. It sucks.[/QUOTE]
Since we're on the topic of PCR testing. Here's an interesting scenario. I will be going to the USA for 1 night and returning to Colombia the following day so I get an extra 90 days visa free in Colombia. Assuming that Colombia will still require a PCR test to enter, I will be getting a PCR test in Colombia 2 days before my flight to the US. I plan to use the results of the test to enter the US as well as return to Colombia. Whats the probability that Colombian Migration gives me shit for using a test that is technically within the 96 hrs but was taken in Colombia?
[QUOTE=Woodman09;2541170]Here in LA to get results quick like 12 hours it is costing me $175. Going tomorrow.
CVS is $139,1-2 days no guarantee on that tho-.[/QUOTE]I am a veteran and I do not have any other health insurance. At CVS the covid test is free for people without any insurance. I took it Sunday afternoon and had the results Monday night like 4 am.
[QUOTE=Kazeu;2541375]I will be going to the USA for 1 night and returning to Colombia the following day so I get an extra 90 days visa free in Colombia. Assuming that Colombia will still require a PCR test to enter, I will be getting a PCR test in Colombia 2 days before my flight to the US.[/QUOTE]Why not fly to Mexico for the 1 night -- where no entry test required, and where if necessary covid test for return entry to Colombia can be done quickly in the airport? Just wondering, unless your whole thing is getting the cheapest flight possible to any border.
[QUOTE=WorldTravel69;2541363]What are they saying if you had shots and the card that the nurse gives you that proves it?[/QUOTE]My getting the vaccine did not matter. I suspect that will change but for now, vaccine does not matter.
[QUOTE=Golfinho;2541475]Why not fly to Mexico for the 1 night -- where no entry test required, and where if necessary covid test for return entry to Colombia can be done quickly in the airport? Just wondering, unless your whole thing is getting the cheapest flight possible to any border.[/QUOTE]You're exactly on the ball. Cheapest flight was to FLL. And it also lets me take care of some things in the US while I'm there.
Not sure what to do about it this time.
I was in Santa Fe around 8 pm. I was walking west on Calle 23, between Cr 16 and 16 a, when I heard the sound of coins falling to the ground. I turned around to look at the ground and didn't see anything immediately, but I saw 2 guys following me. These were two of the guys that threw a rock at me the other night. I don't remember their faces, but I could tell from the jackets and hats they were wearing. The taller one wears a red jacket. Anyways, they were throwing coins at me. This has such a high school bully feel to it. But again I wasn't sure that they threw coins at me and I wasn't absolutely sure it was them. So when I turned the corner north onto CR 16 a. I stopped immediately around the corner and waited. To me, what they did next confirms all my suspicions. The stopped at the corner and pretended to play with their phones for 15 or so seconds, then turned around and walked back from where they came.
Yea, not sure what to do about this. I'm pretty sure they are just fucking with me, but I may stop going to santa fe alone at night. I hope someone kicks their ass, unfortunately it won't be me.
[QUOTE=Kazeu;2541583]Yea, not sure what to do about this. I'm pretty sure they are just fucking with me, but I may stop going to santa fe alone at night.[/QUOTE]Wear a different color hat.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2541602]Wear a different color hat.[/QUOTE]Thanks, but I'm pretty sure that's not going to help.
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[QUOTE=Kazeu;2541583]Not sure what to do about it this time.
I was in Santa Fe around 8 pm. I was walking west on Calle 23, between Cr 16 and 16 a, when I heard the sound of coins falling to the ground. I turned around to look at the ground and didn't see anything immediately, but I saw 2 guys following me. These were two of the guys that threw a rock at me the other night. I don't remember their faces, but I could tell from the jackets and hats they were wearing. The taller one wears a red jacket. Anyways, they were throwing coins at me. This has such a high school bully feel to it. But again I wasn't sure that they threw coins at me and I wasn't absolutely sure it was them. So when I turned the corner north onto CR 16 a. I stopped immediately around the corner and waited. To me, what they did next confirms all my suspicions. The stopped at the corner and pretended to play with their phones for 15 or so seconds, then turned around and walked back from where they came.
Yea, not sure what to do about this. I'm pretty sure they are just fucking with me, but I may stop going to santa fe alone at night. I hope someone kicks their ass, unfortunately it won't be me.[/QUOTE]I'm not sure, but I think you mentioned before you were Asian. Can it be a racist thing rather than simply a juvenile thing?
In any way, I would either stop going there altogether, find other people to go with, or uber / taxi right to and from your favorite club's entrance.
[QUOTE=Kazeu;2541375]Since we're on the topic of PCR testing. Here's an interesting scenario. I will be going to the USA for 1 night and returning to Colombia the following day so I get an extra 90 days visa free in Colombia. Assuming that Colombia will still require a PCR test to enter, I will be getting a PCR test in Colombia 2 days before my flight to the US. I plan to use the results of the test to enter the US as well as return to Colombia. Whats the probability that Colombian Migration gives me shit for using a test that is technically within the 96 hrs but was taken in Colombia?[/QUOTE]I did the exact same thing back in January, I arrived in Medellin on January 29th, and I left Colombia with a test that I took on January 29th and received results on Jan 31st and left Medellin on Feb 1st, I did not have an issue at all. Pollo Negro is out!
[QUOTE=Xpartan;2541622]I'm not sure, but I think you mentioned before you were Asian. Can it be a racist thing rather than simply a juvenile thing?
In any way, I would either stop going there altogether, find other people to go with, or uber / taxi right to and from your favorite club's entrance.[/QUOTE]Yes I am Asian, but I don't think they have ever seen my full face. It could be a racist thing. Or maybe both racist and juvenile.
[QUOTE=Kazeu;2541375]Whats the probability that Colombian Migration gives me shit for using a test that is technically within the 96 hrs but was taken in Colombia?[/QUOTE]I think it is none.
[QUOTE=Kazeu;2541634]Yes I am Asian, but I don't think they have ever seen my full face. It could be a racist thing. Or maybe both racist and juvenile.[/QUOTE]I think Asian men are easy target for getting bullied or robbed. Last January, in Medellin, I was hanging out with an Asian dude from Canada and he was robbed by four people at El Centro and they emptied out all his pockets and stabbed him with a sharp object. People were bullying him by calling him Chino in corners. Next day, I had to take him to the hospital to get a tetanus shot.
[QUOTE=Kazeu;2541375]Since we're on the topic of PCR testing. Here's an interesting scenario. I will be going to the USA for 1 night and returning to Colombia the following day so I get an extra 90 days visa free in Colombia. Assuming that Colombia will still require a PCR test to enter, I will be getting a PCR test in Colombia 2 days before my flight to the US. I plan to use the results of the test to enter the US as well as return to Colombia. Whats the probability that Colombian Migration gives me shit for using a test that is technically within the 96 hrs but was taken in Colombia?[/QUOTE]You do not need a PCR test to come back to the US; an antigen test (faster and cheaper) is enough.
[QUOTE=BigButtDetecto;2541742]You do not need a PCR test to come back to the US; an antigen test (faster and cheaper) is enough.[/QUOTE]Yes, I am aware of that. My point was that I would need a PCR test to get back into Colombia and since you can also use a PCR test to get into the US and I would only be staying in the US for 1 night. Technically I should be able to use the same PCR test that I use to enter the US for entry into Colombia as well if I timed it right. But this is probably not common so I am worried that immigration might give me trouble in Bogota when coming back.
It has to be the worst airport in the World.
They make you go through customs, etc. When I was just going through. I was not leaving the airport.
I had a five hour wait for my connection to Ecuador, both ways. No Air Conditioning in the Airport.
Never Again!
[QUOTE=Golfinho;2541475]Why not fly to Mexico for the 1 night -- where no entry test required, and where if necessary covid test for return entry to Colombia can be done quickly in the airport? Just wondering, unless your whole thing is getting the cheapest flight possible to any border.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=WorldTravel69;2541776]It has to be the worst airport in the World.
They make you go through customs, etc. When I was just going through. I was not leaving the airport.
I had a five hour wait for my connection to Ecuador, both ways. No Air Conditioning in the Airport.
Never Again![/QUOTE]If you are an American you shouldn't be surprised. In transit travelers don't exist in the US and any airport is a port of entry meaning you got to collect your luggage and go through customs.
[QUOTE=Kazeu;2541634]Yes I am Asian, but I don't think they have ever seen my full face.[/QUOTE]Yes, they did.
In 74 countries that has never happened to me.
There had to be Three hundred people in the line, both ways.
I don't know how many missed their connecting flights.
Also, no seats on their Toilets.
[QUOTE=WorldTravel69;2541776]It has to be the worst airport in the World.
They make you go through customs, etc. When I was just going through, in Transit. I was not leaving the airport.
I had a five hour wait for my connection to Ecuador, both ways. No Air Conditioning in the Airport.
Never Again![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=SunnyDay;2525130]Registered and verified with Coinbase. When attempting to purchase BitCoin, a "Buys Not Supported" message appeared. Not certain if this was because I am in currently in Colombia or originally from the US.
Would any fellow member who is successfully set up with CoinBase and Paypal, be willing to help with the necessary transaction? If yes, let me know how to reach you considering I do not have access to PM yet.
Thanks![/QUOTE]The transaction fees on BTC is around US $28 (.0005 BTC) whilst a LTC transaction fee is only 17 cents.
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[QUOTE=WorldTravel69;2541776]It has to be the worst airport in the World.
They make you go through customs, etc. When I was just going through. I was not leaving the airport.
I had a five hour wait for my connection to Ecuador, both ways. No Air Conditioning in the Airport.
Never Again![/QUOTE]WT69, there is no doubt the Mexico City airport can be the worst in Mexico. They absolutely terrorized a sweet Colombian who I flew into the country. They denied her entry, put in her some kind of a jail, stole her shoes, and stole some things out of her luggage. I know now to not fly a woman from a South American country into Mexico City. I have flown them into Cancun and Guadalajara and not had any issues.
Yes, the customs thing is weird. I used to fly to Lima through CDMX all the time. When I was flying from Lima, I had to get my suitcase, go out of the protected area, and check my bag in all over again, a pain in the ass to be sure.
However when I was flying to Lima from the USA, my bag could be checked right through. I guess the Mexicans wanted to check all South American bags for drugs or other illegal things. Mexico is remarkably tolerant of Americans. When I walk into Mexico from a Texas border town, I have never been asked for my passport. With Covid, I have had my temperature taken. That is it.
I never had an issue with the toilets there. That is new.
[QUOTE=Kazeu;2541583]Not sure what to do about it this time.
Yea, not sure what to do about this. I'm pretty sure they are just fucking with me, but I may stop going to santa fe alone at night. I hope someone kicks their ass, unfortunately it won't be me.[/QUOTE]Had my Asian friend mugged in Santa Fe when he was on his own for 2 minutes. I would suggest you always have a wingman with you.
[QUOTE=WorldTravel69;2541776]It has to be the worst airport in the World.
They make you go through customs, etc. When I was just going through. I was not leaving the airport.
I had a five hour wait for my connection to Ecuador, both ways. No Air Conditioning in the Airport.![/QUOTE]Many airports worse than MEX, but why not fly thru Cancun? It's cheap, major tourist destination with flights from everywhere. Non-stop from Bogota on Wingo, among others.
Why didn't you wait your layover in a lounge, or are they still not open?
[QUOTE=Yonkers44;2541786]If you are an American you shouldn't be surprised. In transit travelers don't exist in the US and any airport is a port of entry meaning you got to collect your luggage and go through customs.[/QUOTE]Yep. And my worst experience ever was going through a US airport, for that very reason. 2 hours in line just to look at my passport, and as a result a missed connection flight, overnight. I'll gladly pay extra money to not have to stop over in the US.
[QUOTE=Golfinho;2542272]Many airports worse than MEX, but why not fly thru Cancun? It's cheap, major tourist destination with flights from everywhere. [/QUOTE]Cancun is worse. They made me throw away my 3 ounce liquids!
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2542300]Cancun is worse. They made me throw away my 3 ounce liquids![/QUOTE]I don't trust the baggage handlers so I keep my colognes with me. Colognes that I'm certain I will not be able to find. I would be pissed if I had to get rid of them at an airport.
I've been here for the last week banging girls from SA. Some were great, some were awful, a few flaked on me. But overall, I love the point and shoot aspect of it. I've got a script down where I make sure they are down for everything up front.
Thursday afternoon and this afternoon (Friday), I went down to Santa Fe to see what kind of girls I could find. I'm picky but not incredibly so. I look for 3 things:
1. Young.
2. Reasonably skinny.
3. Not too skanky or drug addled.
While there is a large quantity of girls, I only found 1 or 2 that fit my 3 criteria. And none of them were down for banging without a condom. So I just sucked some titties (way cheaper than a lapdance back home) and went back to the hotel disappointed. I'm about to go back out tonight. We'll see if I fair better with the sweeties and the club girls.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2542300]Cancun is worse. They made me throw away my 3 ounce liquids..[/QUOTE]They must have been profiling you, not looking like a wholesome, free spending tourist. I carried on bags every time thru that airport with no problem four times already since new year's.
[QUOTE=TravelingDom;2540757]Good writeup. I'll be heading to Medellin soon and will likely stop in Bogota for a few day-week to check it out first. I will need a local sim and am curious, the place that you purchased your sim what company was it with? If its something that I can work with my entire trip, I'll just grab the sim there and keep it for my entire time in Colombia as long as its a new sim that lasts and not one of the stolen ones that get disconnected that I hear about.[/QUOTE]There's also an Exito in that area if you need a supermarket. Didn't try the burger place, but I had bandeja de paisa which was good. It is next to a kokoriko which has good chicken and not bad to have at the airbnb or hotel for late night snacking.
Same issue. Not enough quality. Even along the south stroll. I saw one really tiny ginger looking girl who seemed pretty cool. But she told me she has been working the streets in Santa Fe for 6 months. I was a little skittish about barebacking her. I might have come back but I got mean-mugged by a couple of punks walking together in a group and I figured I'd avoid the conflict. I checked out all the bars. I saw a few lookers at Fiebre. But seating was hard to come by and I didn't see any girls I would consider "must have". So I went back to my place and set up some more SA dates for Saturday.
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2542139]WT69, there is no doubt the Mexico City airport can be the worst in Mexico. They absolutely terrorized a sweet Colombian who I flew into the country. They denied her entry, put in her some kind of a jail, stole her shoes, and stole some things out of her luggage. I know now to not fly a woman from a South American country into Mexico City. I have flown them into Cancun and Guadalajara and not had any issues.
Yes, the customs thing is weird. I used to fly to Lima through CDMX all the time. When I was flying from Lima, I had to get my suitcase, go out of the protected area, and check my bag in all over again, a pain in the ass to be sure.
However when I was flying to Lima from the USA, my bag could be checked right through. I guess the Mexicans wanted to check all South American bags for drugs or other illegal things. Mexico is remarkably tolerant of Americans. When I walk into Mexico from a Texas border town, I have never been asked for my passport. With Covid, I have had my temperature taken. That is it.
I never had an issue with the toilets there. That is new.[/QUOTE]When I go to Colombia, I don't go through Mexico anymore; it is chaos. Nothing comparable to El Dorado airport in Bogota.
[QUOTE=ShadowJ;2542490]Same issue. Not enough quality. Even along the south stroll. I saw one really tiny ginger looking girl who seemed pretty cool. But she told me she has been working the streets in Santa Fe for 6 months. I was a little skittish about barebacking her. I might have come back but I got mean-mugged by a couple of punks walking together in a group and I figured I'd avoid the conflict. I checked out all the bars. I saw a few lookers at Fiebre. But seating was hard to come by and I didn't see any girls I would consider "must have". So I went back to my place and set up some more SA dates for Saturday.[/QUOTE]I have plenty to say about Santa Fe as I have been there 25+ times in last 6 weeks-- Just got back from California after 2 weeks.
For Now I will just say this:
--I was there last night and there were Tons of HotAss Streetie Sweeties-- I went about 7- I was jetlagged, but dragged myself over-.
Had 3 very great sessions and stopped into Alaska bakery for a bowl of Caldo de Costilla-- I was falling asleep at the table, LOL. So much HotAss pussy out last night -- I woulda went for 4 but-- Could not do it.
You get off the plane and must go through customs. Then you can go to the lounge.
[QUOTE=Golfinho;2542272]Many airports worse than MEX, but why not fly thru Cancun? It's cheap, major tourist destination with flights from everywhere. Non-stop from Bogota on Wingo, among others.
Why didn't you wait your layover in a lounge, or are they still not open?[/QUOTE]
Is it girl friendly? If so, is there a fee for guests?
Japan officially announced they're not allowing any overseas spectators for the Olympics. Man I had been looking forward to this once in a lifetime trip since the last summer Olympics when Japan closed out the games. I'm angry (not at Japan) and sad at the same time. I had a trip to Thailand tacked on, which is unlikely with its quarantine situation. I wished they would've waited till May and see what numbers vaccinations and herd immunity might have produced. Maybe it wouldn't have made a difference. Damn. I may be back to Bogota sooner than planned. Anyone got any info on which casas and other massage spots are open?
[QUOTE=Woodman09;2542525]I have plenty to say about Santa Fe as I have been there 25+ times in last 6 weeks-- Just got back from California after 2 weeks.
For Now I will just say this:
--I was there last night and there were Tons of HotAss Streetie Sweeties-- I went about 7- I was jetlagged, but dragged myself over-.
Had 3 very great sessions and stopped into Alaska bakery for a bowl of Caldo de Costilla-- I was falling asleep at the table, LOL. So much HotAss pussy out last night -- I woulda went for 4 but-- Could not do it.[/QUOTE]Impressive. Very impressive.
Darth Vader.
[QUOTE=MistaDynamite;2542625]Impressive. Very impressive.
Darth Vader.[/QUOTE]Yo Obi Wan Misquoti.
It's actually "Impressive, most impressive".
Also to the guy who exclusively raw dogs street girls and uses SA. Are the SA girls letting you raw dog them too? If so I got to say that's kinda fucked and I feel bad for them.
[QUOTE=Kazeu;2541583]Not sure what to do about it this time.
I was in Santa Fe around 8 pm. I was walking west on Calle 23, between Cr 16 and 16 a, when I heard the sound of coins falling to the ground. I turned around to look at the ground and didn't see anything immediately, but I saw 2 guys following me. These were two of the guys that threw a rock at me the other night. I don't remember their faces, but I could tell from the jackets and hats they were wearing. The taller one wears a red jacket. Anyways, they were throwing coins at me. This has such a high school bully feel to it. But again I wasn't sure that they threw coins at me and I wasn't absolutely sure it was them. So when I turned the corner north onto CR 16 a. I stopped immediately around the corner and waited. To me, what they did next confirms all my suspicions. The stopped at the corner and pretended to play with their phones for 15 or so seconds, then turned around and walked back from where they came.
Yea, not sure what to do about this. I'm pretty sure they are just fucking with me, but I may stop going to santa fe alone at night. I hope someone kicks their ass, unfortunately it won't be me.[/QUOTE]Rest assured they badly want to mug you and are frustrated because they can't for whatever reason (people around, police nearby, etc.).
[QUOTE=Talkyes;2542681]Also to the guy who exclusively raw dogs street girls and uses SA. Are the SA girls letting you raw dog them too? If so I got to say that's kinda fucked and I feel bad for them.[/QUOTE]Why would you feel bad for them? They have the option of saying no the same as the tons of other girls that I am sure tell him no. If a chick did not go with dudes for less than $300, would you feel sorry for the dude that agreed to pay the $300?
These adults have the freedom to make their own decisions believe it or not. Why do you think Seeking Arrangement chicks would not do it? They are humans too and are not monolithic. They are no different than anyone else simply because they have signed up on a particular website.
[QUOTE=MistaDynamite;2542614]Is it girl friendly? If so, is there a fee for guests?[/QUOTE]First one is free. 54,000 pesos for each additional. Must have ID. That being said, I found this out the hard way with non-pros. If you intend on bringing hookers there then your luck may be different.
[QUOTE=MistaDynamite;2542614]Is it girl friendly? If so, is there a fee for guests?[/QUOTE]They are not GF-- not sure how much -- go to Hotel San Francisco-- There are many other cheap hotels in that area.
[QUOTE=Woodman09;2542525]I have plenty to say about Santa Fe as I have been there 25+ times in last 6 weeks-- Just got back from California after 2 weeks.
For Now I will just say this:
--I was there last night and there were Tons of HotAss Streetie Sweeties-- I went about 7- I was jetlagged, but dragged myself over-.
Had 3 very great sessions and stopped into Alaska bakery for a bowl of Caldo de Costilla-- I was falling asleep at the table, LOL. So much HotAss pussy out last night -- I woulda went for 4 but-- Could not do it.[/QUOTE]Went yesterday during day-- boned 2 more hot ass College girl Streetie Sweeties-- There are hot girls only working daytime-- Lotsa variety on Saturday-- Love looking at them in the daylight.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2542889]Why would you feel bad for them? They have the option of saying no the same as the tons of other girls that I am sure tell him no. If a chick did not go with dudes for less than $300, would you feel sorry for the dude that agreed to pay the $300?
These adults have the freedom to make their own decisions believe it or not. Why do you think Seeking Arrangement chicks would not do it? They are humans too and are not monolithic. They are no different than anyone else simply because they have signed up on a particular website.[/QUOTE]Because most of the girls on seeking aren't pros, they didn't really sign up for that level of risk. I feel like if you bareback hookers, especially street hookers, there should at least be like a grace period where you see if you develop any symptoms (if you're not going to get tested) before you start barebacking regular girls. Just as a courtesy I guess? I dunno, I don't think that's a lot to ask.
[QUOTE=Talkyes;2542681]Yo Obi Wan Misquoti.
It's actually "Impressive, most impressive".
Also to the guy who exclusively raw dogs street girls and uses SA. Are the SA girls letting you raw dog them too? If so I got to say that's kinda fucked and I feel bad for them.[/QUOTE]Yep, if you pay more, you know they're disease free, LOL.
Hello all,
I am planning a trip to Colombia, Bogota and Medellin in mid of April. Can someone please confirm if the clubs in Santa Fe (Troya, etc') are open or closed at this corona time?
Thanks in advance.
Aviv.
I'm looking to add a side trip to my upcoming visit, and can't decide whether to go to Cali or Bogota. Seems as if the big difference is climate- hot and sticky vs cold and damp. Anyone care to weigh in as to why one over the other? Some say the women are finer in Cali, others the opposite. I've never been to either, so I'm looking to my fellow Senior Members for advice-.
[QUOTE=Talkyes;2542959]Because most of the girls on seeking aren't pros, [/QUOTE]I don't know in which sense you are using pros. In the sense that I use it, it means hookers. The definition of hooker is someone exchanging sex for money. If don't matter if they are fucking in a 5th Avenue Penthouse or in Santa Fe. I think the Arrangement part in the title signifies that the man will be giving the woman money.
Are you doubting these men are getting the sex in return? Are you asserting that once a woman on this website encounters 1 arrangement, that they are not seeking others? You think it is a lot to ask? Again, they are free to turn down his offer and are not forced into these things. And get this.. ANY woman can sign up on SA, not just those you think fit certain criteria. So how do you know the chick I fucked in Santa Fe for $10 is not on SA selling some other guy pussy for ten times that?
I also think you have the game backwards. If you go to McDonald's you pretty much expect a teenager to be throwing your shit into a bag. If you go to a steakhouse then you will expect people to be bending over backwards for you because you are paying a lot more money for that ribeye and wine than the Big Mac and Diet Coke.
See people like me and Woodman and Kazeu know that when we go to Santa Fe that it is only a little money. We know a chick may not dot every I and cross every t and we roll with those punches. I think the guys on this SA website are giving a bunch more money so the chicks are more likely to give in to the special services that guys may be requiring for that kind of money. Hookers are hookers and I think the more expensive ones are willing to go above and beyond for that pricepoint, whereas like a chick that I was fucking in Ecuador that would not even hang up her phone said, "It is only $6!"
How much could I reasonably have expected for that versus the guy on SA paying $150? Surely the person being paid $150 is going to bareback quicker than the person being paid $6. You are saying it as if it is the opposite and more expensive chicks should be expected to perform less services. Where do people get this type of thinking from? It is like when it comes to pussy some guys think in a bizarro world.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2543196]I don't know in which sense you are using pros. In the sense that I use it, it means hookers. The definition of hooker is someone exchanging sex for money. If don't matter if they are fucking in a 5th Avenue Penthouse or in Santa Fe. I think the Arrangement part in the title signifies that the man will be giving the woman money. Are you doubting these men are getting the sex in return? Are you asserting that once a woman on this website encounters 1 arrangement, that they are not seeking others? You think it is a lot to ask? Again, they are free to turn down his offer and are not forced into these things.
I also think you have the game backwards. If you go to McDonald's you pretty much expect a teenager to be throwing your shit into a bag. If you go to a steakhouse then you will expect people to be bending over backwards for you because you are paying a lot more money for that ribeye and wine than the Big Mac and Diet Coke.
See people like me and Woodman and Kazeu know that when we go to Santa Fe that it is only a little money. We know a chick may not dot every I and cross every t and we roll with those punches. I think the guys on this SA website are giving a bunch more money so the chicks are more likely to give in to the special services that guys may be requiring for that kind of money. Hookers are hookers and I think the more expensive ones are willing to go above and beyond for that pricepoint, whereas like a chick that I was fucking in Ecuador that would not even hang up her phone said, "It is only $6!" How much could I reasonably have expected for that versus the guy on SA paying $150?[/QUOTE]"The definition of hooker is someone exchanging sex for money. If don't matter if they are fucking in a 5th Avenue Penthouse or in Santa Fe". That's inherently false, as are all sweeping generalizations. I'd offer some tired admonishment like "unless you walk a mile in their shoes", but you're way too far gone for that. That's messed up.
[QUOTE=Talkyes;2542959]Because most of the girls on seeking aren't pros, they didn't really sign up for that level of risk. I feel like if you bareback hookers, especially street hookers, there should at least be like a grace period where you see if you develop any symptoms (if you're not going to get tested) before you start barebacking regular girls. Just as a courtesy I guess? I dunno, I don't think that's a lot to ask.[/QUOTE]Hey Talkyes,
Be careful on this forum bro. Many men on here don't know nor have never experienced free sex, so don't mention or hint nonpros / semipros here LOL. How dare you suggest and imply some of the girls on SA are college girls or normal girls who aren't pros? Or many will just want to date and go out without sex unless you seduce them first like normal men do, and pay them nothing, take them shopping, or give nothing at all like many have done, oh yes that includes the ones in the USA. Don't suggest that some are hardcore, some are in between, and some have no clue and simply hoping for a sugar daddy where you could spend an entire day or more with them with real GFE, no clock watching and spend same amt others are paying hourly or none. Don't suggest that kind of stuff man. It's not possible and doesn't exist. Every single women in col are hookers, no men get laid free there, no such thing LOL.
[QUOTE=MiamiSammy;2543199]"The definition of hooker is someone exchanging sex for money. If don't matter if they are fucking in a 5th Avenue Penthouse or in Santa Fe". That's inherently false, as are all sweeping generalizations. I'd offer some tired admonishment like "unless you walk a mile in their shoes", but you're way too far gone for that. That's messed up.[/QUOTE]It is not a generalization; it is a definition. You don't know what shoes I have walked in during my time on this planet.
If I plan to have multiple guests, is it best to pay extra for 2 person occupancy, or to just pay as the guests come if the front desk sees them? I see hotels can be about $15 for a single person, but around $22 for double occupancy. That's like a third markup. Would it be better off to just pay it, or to get single occupancy and as guests arrive if they or we are stopped by security or front desk to pay then? I'm guessing if I pay for a second person upon booking, when I bring a person after that, I still will end up paying for another additional person?
I'd say Bogota is better because it has a dedicated red light district: Santa Fe. Plus most chicks cost around 10-15 USD yes the weather sucks in Bogota but in all it has everything a monger wants. Also most chicks working in Santa Fe are from Cali almost none are local Bogota residents. Plus many Venezuelans are there too I personally think the Venes are way better looking than Colombians they don't have those tattoos all over their bodies. But yes Bogota is going to be your choice if you want the monger scene. Cheap pussy and hot Venes plus Cali chicks looking for a quick buck.
[QUOTE=MiamiSammy;2543189]I'm looking to add a side trip to my upcoming visit, and can't decide whether to go to Cali or Bogota. Seems as if the big difference is climate- hot and sticky vs cold and damp. Anyone care to weigh in as to why one over the other? Some say the women are finer in Cali, others the opposite. I've never been to either, so I'm looking to my fellow Senior Members for advice-.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=MiamiSammy;2543189]I'm looking to add a side trip to my upcoming visit, and can't decide whether to go to Cali or Bogota. Seems as if the big difference is climate- hot and sticky vs cold and damp. Anyone care to weigh in as to why one over the other? Some say the women are finer in Cali, others the opposite. I've never been to either, so I'm looking to my fellow Senior Members for advice-.[/QUOTE]I personally like the weather in Bogota-- I do not miss hot humid weather of SoCal-.
Many women in Cali actually come to Bogota to work -- Bogota is the Best because girls from all over Colombia come here to hoe. -- True for other cities but mostly for Bogota-.
The Venezuelans are here too-- Bogota has the Most girls.
Somtimes there are rainy periods where you will get rain for 2 weeks+ so you can pick a bad time- but most of the time it rains and quits-- I would say that it rains 30% on average.
Cali is an interesting place and worth checking out.
[QUOTE=TravelingDom;2543206]If I plan to have multiple guests, is it best to pay extra for 2 person occupancy, or to just pay as the guests come if the front desk sees them? I see hotels can be about $15 for a single person, but around $22 for double occupancy. That's like a third markup. Would it be better off to just pay it, or to get single occupancy and as guests arrive if they or we are stopped by security or front desk to pay then? I'm guessing if I pay for a second person upon booking, when I bring a person after that, I still will end up paying for another additional person?[/QUOTE]If you are looking at $15 singles you are not looking at high end places. So who knows what the guest fees or policies might be. In higher end places it depends more on whether they will allow guests. If you have a particular person in mind, and you book for double occupancy, you will be fine with that person. If you have extra guests the hotels often have a guest fee.
The only way to know is to ask the place where you plan to book. Nothing anyone says here is going to really help beyond that.
[QUOTE=MarkTrinidad;2543222]I'd say Bogota is better because it has a dedicated red light district: Santa Fe. Plus most chicks cost around 10-15 USD yes the weather sucks in Bogota but in all it has everything a monger wants. Also most chicks working in Santa Fe are from Cali almost none are local Bogota residents. Plus many Venezuelans are there too I personally think the Venes are way better looking than Colombians they don't have those tattoos all over their bodies. But yes Bogota is going to be your choice if you want the monger scene. Cheap pussy and hot Venes plus Cali chicks looking for a quick buck.[/QUOTE]Bogota has a lot of options to monger at and cheap girls in SF. But I like the warm weather in Cali and the girls have curves that you do not find anywhere else in the world. There is not as much air pollution as in Bogota or Medellin;.
Also everytime I go to Bogota I feel short of breath due to elevation (2644 m).
[QUOTE=Avivis;2543144]Hello all,
I am planning a trip to Colombia, Bogota and Medellin in mid of April. Can someone please confirm if the clubs in Santa Fe (Troya, etc') are open or closed at this corona time?
Thanks in advance.
Aviv.[/QUOTE]I was there 2 weeks ago and 90% were open; not as many girls as before I noticed but it was early in the week.
[QUOTE=Zeos1;2543260]If you are looking at $15 singles you are not looking at high end places. So who knows what the guest fees or policies might be. In higher end places it depends more on whether they will allow guests. If you have a particular person in mind, and you book for double occupancy, you will be fine with that person. If you have extra guests the hotels often have a guest fee.
The only way to know is to ask the place where you plan to book. Nothing anyone says here is going to really help beyond that.[/QUOTE]Don Carlos stayed in the Bacata (a new high rise condo / shopping center) on Calle 19 using AirBnb. This guy had multiple dates with many SA girls.
They have a nice reception area and coffee bar market, ice cream parlor and casino on 1st FL.
Don Carlos had some very hot women.
[QUOTE=Woodman09;2543224]I personally like the weather in Bogota-- I do not miss hot humid weather of SoCal-.
Many women in Cali actually come to Bogota to work -- Bogota is the Best because girls from all over Colombia come here to hoe. -- True for other cities but mostly for Bogota-.
The Venezuelans are here too-- Bogota has the Most girls.
Somtimes there are rainy periods where you will get rain for 2 weeks+ so you can pick a bad time- but most of the time it rains and quits-- I would say that it rains 30% on average.
Cali is an interesting place and worth checking out.[/QUOTE]Who's got better food? I know about the salsa music, which is a big draw, but do they have a unique take on Colombian food?
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2543196]I don't know in which sense you are using pros. In the sense that I use it, it means hookers. The definition of hooker is someone exchanging sex for money. If don't matter if they are fucking in a 5th Avenue Penthouse or in Santa Fe. I think the Arrangement part in the title signifies that the man will be giving the woman money.
Are you doubting these men are getting the sex in return? Are you asserting that once a woman on this website encounters 1 arrangement, that they are not seeking others? You think it is a lot to ask? Again, they are free to turn down his offer and are not forced into these things. And get this.. ANY woman can sign up on SA, not just those you think fit certain criteria. So how do you know the chick I fucked in Santa Fe for $10 is not on SA selling some other guy pussy for ten times that?
I also think you have the game backwards. If you go to McDonald's you pretty much expect a teenager to be throwing your shit into a bag. If you go to a steakhouse then you will expect people to be bending over backwards for you because you are paying a lot more money for that ribeye and wine than the Big Mac and Diet Coke.[/QUOTE]Dude,
I don't know why you're making this more complicated than it is. Your steakhouse vs McDonalds example does not apply within the context of anything I said, it seems like an unrelated tangent triggered by something I said that you don't like. The fact of the matter is, [URL]seeking.com[/URL] is not an escort site. There are regular girls on there and also amateurs who are asking for money but thinking of it as a sugardaddy arrangement where they are being selective with their clients. It's different than pros. Part of the reason they are selective is because they assume that the types of guys willing to pay $90 a month for a subscription on top of whatever their own rate is, are not the same types of guys barebacking $10 hookers. So yeah, maybe there is some responsibility for them to take when they make such assumptions, but don't try to act like my thought process is completely backwards for having a bit of empathy.
[QUOTE=Talkyes;2543305] The fact of the matter is, [URL]seeking.com[/URL] is not an escort site. There are regular girls on there and also amateurs who are asking for money but thinking of it as a sugardaddy arrangement where they are being selective with their clients. It's different than pros. Part of the reason they are selective is because they assume that the types of guys willing to pay $90 a month for a subscription on top of whatever their own rate is, are not the same types of guys barebacking $10 hookers. So yeah, maybe there is some responsibility for them to take when they make such assumptions, but don't try to act like my thought process is completely backwards for having a bit of empathy.[/QUOTE]I think most members here use it like an escort site in the form of PPM which works like calling an escort. Most girls on seeking are looking for mutually beneficial relationship which is just a nicer way to ask for money in exchange for sex. Yes, you can find regular girls but most of them still want a mutually beneficial relationship that involves money for whatever reason. Some don't want money but those are not the norm.
I don't know who is picking who. There are so many of them, if the girl is difficult or ask too many questions, I just say "Next".
I think most regular girls don't know SD has to pay to be able to contact them. They are also paying far less than SD to be a Premium member. About STD, I think I understand your thinking. I had a long term SB last year and we both had STD check before. She is an US expat working in the country that I was in at the time. She can be considered a regular girl because she has a good paying job and does not have much experience about sex. I was actually worrying about giving her STD the whole time for that reason.
[QUOTE=Talkyes;2543305]Dude,
I don't know why you're making this more complicated than it is. Your steakhouse vs McDonalds example does not apply within the context of anything I said,[/QUOTE]All I am saying is that when people pay more, they expect more. You are talking like $10 Santa Fe chicks pull out all the stops when they don't. You see all the time reports saying they had to pay extra for this that and the other at casas and the like.
Guys are not paying $90 per month for a subscription plus top money to these chicks to be limited in what they will do and be centavoed and pesoed for extras. The extras are coming with the price of admission.
It is the same with the middle east guys flying chicks in to let them number 2 on them. Those are not $10 Santa Fe chicks agreeing to be shit on believe it or not. Those are chicks that probably not many of us on this board can afford.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2543385]...It is the same with the middle east guys flying chicks in to let them number 2 on them...[/QUOTE]Meaning, they'd pay to let a girl shit on them -- or they would pay to shit on the girl? (Seems like a strange thing to do, either way).
[QUOTE=JohnClayton;2543393]Meaning, they'd pay to let a girl shit on them -- or they would pay to shit on the girl? (Seems like a strange thing to do, either way).[/QUOTE]LOL. They shit on the girls. Rich mfs don't have anything else to do with their money. Just google emirates shit on women.
"Anonymous IG Model Breaks Down How Much Money She Makes Going To Dubai To Get Pooped On".
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2543400]LOL. They shit on the girls. Rich mfs don't have anything else to do with their money. Just google emirates shit on women...[/QUOTE]I think in '91 I was the only person rooting for Sadaam because I hated the emiratis and kuwaitis so much.
[QUOTE=Nounce;2543378]About STD, I think I understand your thinking. I had a long term SB last year and we both had STD check before. She is an US expat working in the country that I was in at the time. She can be considered a regular girl because she has a good paying job and does not have much experience about sex. I was actually worrying about giving her STD the whole time for that reason.[/QUOTE]I understand the thinking too whether it is correct or not is a different matter. If you are a monger, you fall into one of two categories: either you realize American sex prison policies are bullshit or you believe it and feel guilty about it. The first few times I did this and was not faithful to my ex-wife, I considered myself a loser. So I went through things researched a ton and realized that my behavior was normal. Monogamy was not a Biblical or Christian construct but a response to syphilis in the 1500's. This is also when sexuality and morality really came into play because syphilis may be as bad a disease as there is with some people.
Given the history of the Catholic Church, which actually ran brothels prior to syphilis hitting Europe, the whole concept of the church in charge of sexuality is kind of absurd, but they took over the role of deciding what was normal with sexuality and morality. With that comes an enormous amount of power. So when penicillin comes around and is readily available and cures syphilis did the church come out and say "You all can fuck like bunnies now?" Of course not. Shoot, church leaders and political leaders probably were probably preaching monogamy came from Christ. But eventually people saw that others were having sex and not dying. This led to the free love era of the 60's and 70's right, and abortion being legalized in 1973 was a sexual freedom movement as well. If people were dropping dead with syphilis, I do not think abortion would have been legalized.
So if you are in church or government, what do you do if you want to retain or assume more power with the power associated with sexuality, what do you do now? Well, you designate some diseases as being sexual and associate guilt with them. You elevated a nothing disease like herpes into this horrible condition. That did not work too well so then there is HIV and AIDS, and that worked for a while. Thing is eventually people figured out that they could have sex and not die of syphilis and straight people could have sex without condoms and not die of AIDS.
So I got strep throat once from kissing a stripper. I was sick as hell for 5 days, but you said you were only worried about a sexual disease and Strep throat is not listed as one. Why were you not worried about strep? Because the government is dictating to you with certain diseases it is your fault with spreading it and other ones there is not. Is that logical? Fuck no. It is designed for power. Why else would you associate disease with sex?
So the whole concept that goes on in the monger world that DFK is safe and BBFS is risky is based on the government campaign on AIDS, and the irony is that the CDC actually lied about the AIDS numbers, and they admitted it. The chairman for the CDC admitted there was no downside to inflating the AIDS numbers and in 1996, with a stroke of the pen, they cut the numbers in half. The concept that DFK is safe and BBFS is not is not logical; it is literally batshit crazy.
So yeah, I get the fear. If you are at the stage you still feel guilt about your sexuality, it makes sense to me to be afraid. However, that is an illogical fear. Why are you afraid of spreading disease with sex and not in other ways? Why are you more worried about sexual diseases than other ones?
If you are rejecting the government's advice on prostitution, why are you accepting it with regards to sex and diseases? Well, maybe you are not okay with your sexuality and feel guilty about it.
It is amazing though you accept giving a disease to someone else as being all your fault. The government says you are a bad boy, and you go along with it. You are conditioned to take on something if a woman feels badly. How do you know the STD came from you and not someone else? Better yet, how do you know it is from you and not from her having a shitty immune system because of her lifestyle choices?
So we have a monger on here being a white knight to the working girls which is funny right? To cure STDs, men need to change. LOL. That is why the USA is a sex prison. What do you think would happen if I went to the stripper and said, "Hey, you gave me strep throat?
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2543526]I understand the thinking too whether it is correct or not is a different matter. If you are a monger, you fall into one of two categories: either you realize American sex prison policies are bullshit or you believe it and feel guilty about it. The first few times I did this and was not faithful to my ex-wife, I considered myself a loser. So I went through things researched a ton and realized that my behavior was normal. Monogamy was not a Biblical or Christian construct but a response to syphilis in the 1500's. This is also when sexuality and morality really came into play because syphilis may be as bad a disease as there is with some people.
Given the history of the Catholic Church, which actually ran brothels prior to syphilis hitting Europe, the whole concept of the church in charge of sexuality is kind of absurd, but they took over the role of deciding what was normal with sexuality and morality. With that comes an enormous amount of power. So when penicillin comes around and is readily available and cures syphilis did the church come out and say "You all can fuck like bunnies now?" Of course not. Shoot, church leaders and political leaders probably were probably preaching monogamy came from Christ. But eventually people saw that others were having sex and not dying. This led to the free love era of the 60's and 70's right, and abortion being legalized in 1973 was a sexual freedom movement as well. If people were dropping dead with syphilis, I do not think abortion would have been legalized.
So if you are in church or government, what do you do if you want to retain or assume more power with the power associated with sexuality, what do you do now? Well, you designate some diseases as being sexual and associate guilt with them..[/QUOTE]Nobody ever said that DFK was completely safe, or if they did then it wasn't me. But strep throat goes away. And anything permanent you can get from kissing you pretty much have a zero chance of getting unless you have a cut or open sore. I'm seeing a lot of mental gymnastics going on on this board from people trying to shake off guilt. All I said is that it's not a lot to expect for someone to wait a week or two after fucking cheap street hookers without a condom before they fuck regular girls without a condom. While I agree that the church and the government overstates the risk of disease, that doesn't mean that it's all based on a big lie. People do get AIDS and other uncurable diseases and comparing them to a strep throat is just a sign that you're too far gone to be reasoned with. I'm starting to realize that a willingness to pay for sex is not enough of a commonality for people to share a forum together.
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2543526]American sex prison policies are bullshit or you believe it and feel guilty about it. The first few times I did this and was not faithful to my ex-wife, I considered myself a loser. So I went through things researched a ton and realized that my behavior was normal. Monogamy was not a Biblical or Christian construct but a response to syphilis in the 1500's.[/QUOTE]Well it did not start being illegal in the USA until the early 20th century with the introduction of the Mann Act.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2543400]LOL. They shit on the girls. Rich mfs don't have anything else to do with their money. Just google emirates shit on women.
"Anonymous IG Model Breaks Down How Much Money She Makes Going To Dubai To Get Pooped On".[/QUOTE]Sounds like putas getting treated like the putas that they are.
Just an illustration of what greedy putas will do for money.
There is scat porn and beastiality porn all over the internet.
How much do they get paid to make a scene? $10 usd?
This is a perfect example why I laugh at mongers that overpay for sex.
[QUOTE=Talkyes;2543559]Nobody ever said that DFK was completely safe, or if they did then it wasn't me. But strep throat goes away. And anything permanent you can get from kissing you pretty much have a zero chance of getting unless you have a cut or open sore. I'm seeing a lot of mental gymnastics going on on this board from people trying to shake off guilt. All I said is that it's not a lot to expect for someone to wait a week or two after fucking cheap street hookers without a condom before they fuck regular girls without a condom. While I agree that the church and the government overstates the risk of disease, that doesn't mean that it's all based on a big lie. People do get AIDS and other uncurable diseases and comparing them to a strep throat is just a sign that you're too far gone to be reasoned with. I'm starting to realize that a willingness to pay for sex is not enough of a commonality for people to share a forum together.[/QUOTE]Don't let the door hit you in the ass, adios Pastor Ted Haggard.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2542890]First one is free. 54,000 pesos for each additional. Must have ID. That being said, I found this out the hard way with non-pros. If you intend on bringing hookers there then your luck may be different.[/QUOTE]Good to know. Thanks.
[QUOTE=Woodman09;2542922]They are not GF-- not sure how much -- go to Hotel San Francisco-- There are many other cheap hotels in that area.[/QUOTE]Sweet. I will file that one away if I don't AirBnB. Thanks.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2543385]All I am saying is that when people pay more, they expect more. You are talking like $10 Santa Fe chicks pull out all the stops when they don't. You see all the time reports saying they had to pay extra for this that and the other at casas and the like.
Guys are not paying $90 per month for a subscription plus top money to these chicks to be limited in what they will do and be centavoed and pesoed for extras. The extras are coming with the price of admission.
It is the same with the middle east guys flying chicks in to let them number 2 on them. Those are not $10 Santa Fe chicks agreeing to be shit on believe it or not. Those are chicks that probably not many of us on this board can afford.[/QUOTE]Alrighty then. I'm about to eat. I'll come back later roflmao.
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[QUOTE=Talkyes;2543559]All I said is that it's not a lot to expect for someone to wait a week or two after fucking cheap street hookers without a condom before they fuck regular girls without a condom.[/QUOTE]This begs the question, how long are these cheap street hookers waiting until they fuck the next guy without a condom? Or is it only the guys' responsibility? Are you even from this planet? Turn your TV on to Maury or Paternity Court or better yet visit a real court so you can wake up and see not even women that are not hookers wait 2 weeks before they fuck the next guy without a condom. And you really have the nerve to put SA hookers on a pedestal. LOL. People are going to be people. Welcome to planet earth.
Would you recommend any (legitimate) literature or books about this finding?
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2543526]Monogamy was not a Biblical or Christian construct but a response to syphilis in the 1500's. This is also when sexuality and morality really came into play because syphilis may be as bad a disease as there is with some people.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Talkyes;2543559]People do get AIDS and other uncurable diseases and comparing them to a strep throat is just a sign that you're too far gone to be reasoned with.[/QUOTE]Okay, I tried being nice. If a person has HIV and takes medication, the transmission rate to another person is zero. If you have BBFS, the odds of getting HIV is somewhere between one in 500,000 and zero, and you are worried about that? Why not be worried about getting hit by lightning?
Furthermore, your wanting a guy to wait a few days after BBFS makes no sense as one STD is Hepatitis be, and it takes months to appear.
[QUOTE=Talkyes;2543559]I'm starting to realize that a willingness to pay for sex is not enough of a commonality for people to share a forum together.[/QUOTE]Is that what it is? I thought you were demanding a standard of what being reasonable is when you have no clue what you are talking about.
Maybe you should petition the CDC for a "responsible monger" badge. You seem to think you deserve one.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2543698]This begs the question, how long are these cheap street hookers waiting until they fuck the next guy without a condom? Or is it only the guys' responsibility? Are you even from this planet? Turn your TV on to Maury or Paternity Court or better yet visit a real court so you can wake up and see not even women that are not hookers wait 2 weeks before they fuck the next guy without a condom. And you really have the nerve to put SA hookers on a pedestal. LOL. People are going to be people. Welcome to planet earth.[/QUOTE]Actually, It is not easy to get BB sex in SF, I have some special girls I have romanced for it but most will say no .
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2543698]This begs the question, how long are these cheap street hookers waiting until they fuck the next guy without a condom? Or is it only the guys' responsibility? Are you even from this planet? Turn your TV on to Maury or Paternity Court or better yet visit a real court so you can wake up and see not even women that are not hookers wait 2 weeks before they fuck the next guy without a condom. And you really have the nerve to put SA hookers on a pedestal. LOL. People are going to be people. Welcome to planet earth.[/QUOTE]You are moving the goal posts. We are talking about going from fucking hookers to non hookers. My whole point was that when you go from someone who is a pro to someone who is not, they have no indication of the higher risk you could bring. So when you're taking about how long a hooker waits between barebacking clients, it's clear to me that you're not trying to understand my arguments, you're actually just arguing with a straw man. Just like the guy who called me Pastor Ted Haggard. Like wtf does that even mean? So yeah, I stand by my belief that some of you are too far-gone to be reasoned with. And no, Elvis, you didn't try to be nice. Calling me a White Knight and acting like I'm brainwashed for thinking that STDs are a real thing is pretty hysterical and rude. So medications reduce risk, great, so now we're assuming that everyone is taking meds just because that makes your argument stronger? You guys are accusing me of taking some holier-than-thou stance by having some empathy for girls on SA, well that's not what I was trying to do, and ironically that's actually exactly what you are doing by trying to frame me as some kind of asshole instead of trying to argue reasonably and fairly. Acting like there's no risk to banging hookers bareback and therefore no responsibility to go with it either is a fucking extreme view, and it rubs me the wrong way that I'm the one made out to look crazy for not agreeing. Just seems like you're looking at what's a convenient way to justify your lifestyle instead of looking at reality, and I'm the one not living on planet earth? Well fuck me then, I guess I'll go back to mars. Peace.
[QUOTE=MiamiSammy;2543189]I'm looking to add a side trip to my upcoming visit, and can't decide whether to go to Cali or Bogota. Seems as if the big difference is climate- hot and sticky vs cold and damp. Anyone care to weigh in as to why one over the other? Some say the women are finer in Cali, others the opposite. I've never been to either, so I'm looking to my fellow Senior Members for advice-.[/QUOTE]I've been to both. I like the weather in Bogota, you can get some beautiful 70 degree sunny days and I especially like sitting outside my hotel at lunch time in Chico Norte and watch all the secretaries going to and from their lunch break. Don't be afraid to say Hello, and start a conversation, I've landed more than a few this way over the years. Bogota is a big city, over 8 almost 9 million people, half of them women so you have a lot of choices, crime has skyrocketed over the last year, even in the so called 'safe north' area, but I know Cali has always been dangerous, best to stay in the south area, the Radisson is a good bet. Bogota cons: this week we will be heading into the rainy season, it's a high elevation over 8000 ft. And it can take a day or two to acclimate. The restaurants were once the best in Colombia but alas, many have closed during the pandemic. I'm a beach guy so a hot and sticky city like Cali, without a nearby playa to visit, is a deal breaker to me. Hope this helps.
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2543724]Okay, I tried being nice.[/QUOTE]I agree 100% with you Elvis, HIV transmission is highly unlikely through vaginal sex and the other STD are or with mild symptoms ore easily curable. My opinion is that BBFS is just a matter of time in the life of a monger and I had my share of BBFS experiences also during all these years. But you can't blame Talkys for his comments, we all understand that promoting BBFS is not a good idea anyway. Yes, HIV is highly unlikely with vaginal sex, but getting a girl pregnant is much more likely and I wonder why everybody is focused on STD and no one on that issue. It's not a matter of legal issue as it will be hard for a hooker to find out who is the father. It's just the idea that you might have a son or a daughter somewhere in a shithole country raised by a hooker in a RLD with no perspective of future than ending up also in prostitution. This is the latest headnews in Colombia: [URL]https://www.infobae.com/america/colombia/2021/03/18/no-creo-que-la-nina-este-muerta-expareja-de-la-mama-de-sara-sofia-menor-desaparecida-en-bogota/.[/URL] It's about a 2 years old daughter of a prostitute, abused and killed by her mother and throwed away in a river in Bogota. The girl is blonde with blue eyes, no doubt the real father is a gringo as the mother is a morena, which means that the father could be one of us on this board. I know BBFS is inevitable for an experienced monger, my advice is to consider vasectomy.
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2543724]Okay, I tried being nice. If a person has HIV and takes medication, the transmission rate to another person is zero. If you have BBFS, the odds of getting HIV is somewhere between one in 500,000 and zero, and you are worried about that? Why not be worried about getting hit by lightning?
Furthermore, your wanting a guy to wait a few days after BBFS makes no sense as one STD is Hepatitis be, and it takes months to appear.
Is that what it is? I thought you were demanding a standard of what being reasonable is when you have no clue what you are talking about.
Maybe you should petition the CDC for a "responsible monger" badge. You seem to think you deserve one.[/QUOTE]A good compromise that I use are ultra thins. I swear by the "Air Thin" line made by EXS. You won't even know it's on, trust me, I've checked several times before. You get the same feeling, and it greatly reduces your chance of bringing home an unwanted souvenir. Plus, you save a girl from having to deal with an unwanted pregnancy. Now, I've traveled to places most guys would never dream of going, and I've seen things firsthand that many only read or hear about. So, I don't agree with the term "shit-hole country". It's tough living between the tropic lines for any local around the world. People are people, and everyone is trying to make a living. I don't go out of my way to change people's minds, or help those in need, but I'm not going to add a burden to someone's life. I think we can all agree there has to be at least some sort of responsibility.
[QUOTE=Talkyes;2543754]... Acting like there's no risk to banging hookers bareback and therefore no responsibility to go with it either is a fucking extreme view, and it rubs me the wrong way that I'm the one made out to look crazy for not agreeing. Just seems like you're looking at what's a convenient way to justify your lifestyle instead of looking at reality, and I'm the one not living on planet earth? Well fuck me then, I guess I'll go back to mars. Peace.[/QUOTE]I think readers should be mature enough to know what is safe and what is not and I should hope they would not be swayed by what they read on a monger board, this is in respect of BBFS with street walkers and going into dangerous places at night. As for myself, I am attracted to women who strenuously oppose sex with johns without a condom, that demonstrates that they are concerned about their health. I say we live the lifestyle that suits us. To each his own. To the BBFS mongers I say rock on.
[QUOTE=Routard;2543858]I agree 100% with you Elvis, HIV transmission is highly unlikely through vaginal sex and the other STD are or with mild symptoms ore easily curable. My opinion is that BBFS is just a matter of time in the life of a monger and I had my share of BBFS experiences also during all these years. But you can't blame Talkys for his comments, we all understand that promoting BBFS is not a good idea anyway. Yes, HIV is highly unlikely with vaginal sex, but getting a girl pregnant is much more likely and I wonder why everybody is focused on STD and no one on that issue. It's not a matter of legal issue as it will be hard for a hooker to find out who is the father. It's just the idea that you might have a son or a daughter somewhere in a shithole country raised by a hooker in a RLD with no perspective of future than ending up also in prostitution. This is the latest headnews in Colombia: [URL]https://www.infobae.com/america/colombia/2021/03/18/no-creo-que-la-nina-este-muerta-expareja-de-la-mama-de-sara-sofia-menor-desaparecida-en-bogota/.[/URL] It's about a 2 years old daughter of a prostitute, abused and killed by her mother and throwed away in a river in Bogota. The girl is blonde with blue eyes, no doubt the real father is a gringo as the mother is a morena, which means that the father could be one of us on this board. I know BBFS is inevitable for an experienced monger, my advice is to consider vasectomy.[/QUOTE]Routard, I really appreciate this post. A vasectomy would probably make a lot of sense for most people on this board regardless, yours truly included!
I realize this is not the main point you are making about BBFS, but just a couple of comments about your intro "HIV transmission is highly unlikely through vaginal sex and the other STD are or with mild symptoms ore easily curable".
Drug-resistant strains of gonorrhea have been a bit of concern for quite a while. Half of the 500,000 reported infections in the US each year are resistant to at least one antibiotic according to the CDC. And I know a bunch of people who work on infectious diseases who tell me there is at least one strain of gonorrhea that appears to be resistant to every antibiotic we have available. So we might run out of luck in the not so distant future as far as "easily curable" is concerned. And a sensation that feels like pissing glass shards is not exactly my idea of a mild symptom.
Especially if you are a guy, I agree the evidence is that the odds of being infected with HIV through vaginal sex are very low. But the evidence is also fairly clear that those odds take a big hit if you already have another STD, in part because of compromised barriers. So if you use your vacation to engage in BBFS with a bunch hookers in some of the rougher RLDs where STDs are probably highly prevalent and antiretroviral therapy probably is not, then you certainly are taking your chances (especially if you are not using PrEP).
All a matter of what risk you are willing to take I suppose. Lots of people get away with it, some do not.
And yes, last thing I want to happen is to get a hooker pregnant and have my offspring grow up in those conditions.
[QUOTE=Routard;2543858] It's just the idea that you might have a son or a daughter somewhere in a shithole country raised by a hooker in a RLD with no perspective of future than ending up also in prostitution. This is the latest headnews in Colombia: [URL]https://www.infobae.com/america/colombia/2021/03/18/no-creo-que-la-nina-este-muerta-expareja-de-la-mama-de-sara-sofia-menor-desaparecida-en-bogota/.[/URL] It's about a 2 years old daughter of a prostitute, abused and killed by her mother and throwed away in a river in Bogota. The girl is blonde with blue eyes, no doubt the real father is a gringo as the mother is a morena, which means that the father could be one of us on this board. I know BBFS is inevitable for an experienced monger, my advice is to consider vasectomy.[/QUOTE]I agree. While I don't believe that vaginal sex is as safe as Elvis makes it sound (but I'd love to be proven wrong by being referred to a reliable source of that statistics), the mere possibility of my flesh and blood being raised or abused in a third-world country is enough for me to keep it on, no matter how much I'd love to go bare.
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2543526]I understand the thinking too whether it is correct or not is a different matter. If you are a monger, you fall into one of two categories: either you realize American sex prison policies are bullshit or you believe it and feel guilty about it. The first few times I did this and was not faithful to my ex-wife, I considered myself a loser. So I went through things researched a ton and realized that my behavior was normal. Monogamy was not a Biblical or Christian construct but a response to syphilis in the 1500's. This is also when sexuality and morality really came into play because syphilis may be as bad a disease as there is with some people.[/QUOTE]My reason was simpler. She arrived a few months before me and had too much free time in a new city and I wanted a companion so we were a match. Unlike most girls on SA, she lives a trouble free life, a little too naive. She probably thought sex would be fine after the clean STD test results. She came close to being a real girl friend and secretary at the same time so I don't want to hurt her feeling by getting her sick.
On the same trip, I had a session with a hooker who coughed blood after the session. I did not have sex for 2 weeks after that because I don't want to spread disease to anyone in case I got something from her. I also met another SA girl who was stranded there but she lied about her actual location which was about 2 hours from me. I could tell she was stressed and disappointed when we couldn't have an agreement due to the distance. I thought about it for a couple of days, then I contacted her to pay her rent and living expenses for free and did not meet her in person.
[QUOTE=Xpartan;2544032]I agree. While I don't believe that vaginal sex is as safe as Elvis makes it sound (but I'd love to be proven wrong by being referred to a reliable source of that statistics), the mere possibility of my flesh and blood being raised or abused in a third-world country is enough for me to keep it on, no matter how much I'd love to go bare.[/QUOTE]Older mongers like myself have been more fortunate than the younger ones. I've been lucky enough to have mongered bareback for 20 years during the 1970's and 1980's when condom sex was just not done. During that time though I was not as lucky at the BB mongers on this board who never get STDs. I got various types of STDs on numerous occasions resorting eventually to befriending a pharmacist and having my own store of anti-biotics. Then came AIDS and for me even more troubling anti-biotic resistant STDs so I adjusted to the new normal of CFS.
I have also said it before having a daughter with a Colombian chica and having that daughter end up walking the streets of Santa Fe and being banged by you blokes is enough to send a guy bonkers.
So, I'm not as great a writer as the members on this board. Many of you should throw your stories in a book and make some money.
I got into Bogota around 8 pm and went straight for my hotel near Santa Fe.
I tried to figure out what I wanted to eat, and said forget the food and let me go and get some pussy. Based on the talk here on the boards I thought to myself, either I will be walking over dead bodies, in the process of getting robbed, then murdered, or the infamous Santa Fe is slightly over exaggerated like those who have never been to any inner city usually do these places.
It's about 9 pm so I decide to go for a stroll through Santa Fe area. A little dirty and dingy, but it reminds me of a south side or west side of Chicago, or certain parts of New York, or maybe even burnside area in Portland. I'm paying attention to my surroundings of course and taking the precautions that I normally would. I can understand why some would not want to come here, but these are the type of areas I grew up in, so.
Walk past a few lookers, but wanted to just hurry up and get the job done so that I can go to sleep. Found a blonde cuteish chica who spoke to me and I decided to just offer 30 mil and be sure BBBJ was included. Yes and yes. Went to the room and being new to her she was a little stand-offish. But we got the job done. Her BJ skills are not that great but her pussy was. I initially thought she was 21/22 years of age, but she told me she's 28. Has two children and got a see section. Scare barely noticeable. A tiny gut which I don't mind. I'd give her an upper 6 in the face but some may give her a 7. Its all subjective. A nice ass to grab. And cute titties to suck on hold and look at. I am a tittie man. Hers are natural not huge but they aren't non existent either. She's offered me everything on the menu with no upcharge (not that I've partaken in everything). TLN has been 150 mil. I'm quite new to mongering as I've never done so before just a couple months ago in Mexico. I'm not new to women at all though LOL. Not sure if some will think I over paid, but hey, my first chicka here in Colombia. 30 mil for BBBJ and full service I won't complain. And again, 150 mil for TLN. I've collected a few numbers of regular 9-5 workers just as I was walking around today so we'll see how that plays out also.
[QUOTE=SilverTurtle;2543709]Would you recommend any (legitimate) literature or books about this finding?[/QUOTE]Here is one on syphilis: [URL]https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/case-closed-columbus/[/URL].
Then there is the phrase in the marriage vows "forsaking all others".
[URL]https://justcallmecharley.wordpress.com/2014/11/02/meaning-of-marriage-vows-forsaking-all-others/[/URL]
The phrase "forsaking all others" is not technically part of the marriage vows but is included in the Declaration of Consent from the Book of Common Prayer of the Anglican Church published in 1549. The marriage ceremony outlined in the Book of Common Prayer is the basis for most weddings in the United States.
[QUOTE=TravelingDom;2544321]It's about 9 pm so I decide to go for a stroll through Santa Fe area. I can understand why some would not want to come here, but these are the type of areas I grew up in, so.
Found a blonde cuteish chica who spoke to me and I decided to just offer 30 mil and be sure BBBJ was included. Yes and yes. She's offered me everything on the menu with no upcharge (not that I've partaken in everything). TLN has been 150 mil. I'm quite new to mongering as I've never done so before just a couple months ago in Mexico. I'm not new to women at all though LOL. 30 mil for BBBJ and full service I won't complain. And again, 150 mil for TLN.[/QUOTE]All you have to do now is say that you don't speak Spanish and I will lose it. A man's first time there and he is not getting upcharged, getting normal non-exorbitant prices, and most of all he did not die. You made it sound simple as fuck. Man you need to teach mongering classes to some of these people. Oh, and you went at night too, you badass. See now you are just showing off!
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2544333]All you have to do now is say that you don't speak Spanish and I will lose it. A man's first time there and he is not getting upcharged, getting normal non-exorbitant prices, and most of all he did not die. You made it sound simple as fuck. Man you need to teach mongering classes to some of these people. Oh, and you went at night too, you badass. See now you are just showing off![/QUOTE]Base on his screen name, sounds like he is Dominican, so walking around santa fe at night is just like walking around in guaricano.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2544333]All you have to do now is say that you don't speak Spanish and I will lose it. A man's first time there and he is not getting upcharged, getting normal non-exorbitant prices, and most of all he did not die. You made it sound simple as fuck. Man you need to teach mongering classes to some of these people. Oh, and you went at night too, you badass. See now you are just showing off![/QUOTE]LOL No Spanish but I'm working on it. But I don't believe in disadvantages with women. So, it may not be much a benefit to the SWs but I use it to my advantage with the 9-5 ers here. But damn do they work a lot.
Far as upcharging, maybe its beginners luck. I'll have to report back after I've ran through a couple dozen of 'them haha.
To the other poster. I'm not Dominican. And I don't believe any of us Americanos can pass for Colombianos regardless of our melanin or lack therof. But I know how to move. Or at least I think I do: shoulder shrug: Then again, I'm young and I'm new to this hobby. I'm not 20+ years in like some here so my experience is limited like the time on those quickie motels.
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[QUOTE=Kulibali;2544347]Base on his screen name, sounds like he is Dominican[/QUOTE]Well, you must be playing for Napoli then, LOL.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2544211]Older mongers like myself have been more fortunate than the younger ones. I've been lucky enough to have mongered bareback for 20 years during the 1970's and 1980's when condom sex was just not done. During that time though I was not as lucky at the BB mongers on this board who never get STDs. I got various types of STDs on numerous occasions resorting eventually to befriending a pharmacist and having my own store of anti-biotics. Then came AIDS and for me even more troubling anti-biotic resistant STDs so I adjusted to the new normal of CFS.
I have also said it before having a daughter with a Colombian chica and having that daughter end up walking the streets of Santa Fe and being banged by you blokes is enough to send a guy bonkers.[/QUOTE]I'm a little younger and my sex life started in the 80-s. In my old country there was no AIDS epidemy and no half-decent condoms either, so we didn't really concern ourselves with that shit. I began using condoms when I moved to the States in the early 90's and learned all that shit about AIDS. And the prospect of an accidental offspring tying me down was terrifying too, so it was a no-brainer, really.
I must admit I do hate condoms, though, and getting older I hate them more and more, but the risk is real, and the alternatives are bleak.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2543385]All I am saying is that when people pay more, they expect more. You are talking like $10 Santa Fe chicks pull out all the stops when they don't. You see all the time reports saying they had to pay extra for this that and the other at casas and the like.
Guys are not paying $90 per month for a subscription plus top money to these chicks to be limited in what they will do and be centavoed and pesoed for extras. The extras are coming with the price of admission.[/QUOTE]This is an interesting post, Mr. E, and it has been debated for decades. Do you get what you pay for? In general, I think it is true, but there are things more important than money for some women.
So one seeking girl I tell her my sugar daddy schtick, and she is down with being one of my SBs and I say I expect SBs to bareback me but she did not want to talk money but safety. She wanted to know if I had been tested, and I showed her my tests and then she was good to go with barebacking. So it was not money that did it.
She was really good in bed but I could tell she was not giving 100%, and I think she was uncertain about the whole arrangement. So my deal is that I am going to meet your needs more than just throw money at you. IMO if I direct a woman's money to health and education, she is going to be appreciative but if it goes to drugs and frivolous objects, she is not going to ever be satisfied and resentful.
Thing is that I do not really care how much I spend on items like health and education then as long as it really is going to that. I get that people may not buy this Biblical phrase from Jesus but I do. Jesus warned us about this when he said, "Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moths and vermin destroy, and where thieves break in and steal. But store up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust destroys, and where thieves do not break in or steal."
So my thing is that if you really try to improve the life of another person, you get rewarded for it maybe not right away but you do. That is what I mean by investment. So with her, she has anemia, an eye issue, and her knees are killing her. I go to a pharmacy and get her medications. All I ask for money wise is for generics, and when the bill comes due, I just paid it. It was less than a $100, but I really was not counting as the total got higher. I also bought her some tennis shoes and a bikini so she could swim in the hotel pool. A lot of times you do something to make someone feel better, and it is forgotten quickly, and I did not think I was going to get an immediate benefit to it.
But I was wrong. She loves her shoes. She feels great walking in them. She has taken her medication and feels better. When we get back to the hotel, she then throws me on the bed and fucks the shit out of me. This is what I knew was there and was hoping to get from her, genuine desire, and I am not sure you can really buy that. If I had paid this girl $500 and she felt lousy, I am not sure that she would have performed as she did.
The other parts that surprised me is that we go to the pool and she is so happy. She is like a five year old playing in the pool squealing with delight. And she tells the only person close to her in her life, her mother, what I did for her.
This is where being a SD versus a john comes in. Does any parent want to here, "Hey mom, I met this guy and he paid $500 to fuck me"? If you compare that to what she said, "Hey mom, I met this guy. He got me medication, and I feel better than I have in over a year", you get a different reaction. In this mother's case it was being on my side and her saying, "Do not lose this guy. " That is something very few here can relate to: mom being an advocate for you and not an enemy.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2543385]It is the same with the middle east guys flying chicks in to let them number 2 on them. Those are not $10 Santa Fe chicks agreeing to be shit on believe it or not. Those are chicks that probably not many of us on this board can afford.[/QUOTE]Maybe there are gals that the Middle East guys see that I have not, but I doubt it. I have fucked women who have gone to the Middle East. I have had a Penthouse Pet, been with the #1 escort on Big Dog back in the day, been with Maxim models, and porn stars, but the best women I have met from seeking are better than all of them.
JJBee has accused me of bragging about my best experiences, but the truth is that this past week in Bogota I had three below average and three great ones. The three great times were all with women I had seen before. I just think guys want to read more about the great times than the bad or average ones.
The best one was a model from the coast. The last time I went she ruined two days for me in Bogota because she fucked me for so hard and so long that she drained me. I did not see her a second time that trip and I really was not sure why. She was so hot and so good in bed, I had to think about why and subconsciously I rejected her thinking, "What is someone so hot and so good in bed doing with me? There must be something wrong with her. " Shit, she did not even ask for money.
But it was more the sex than the looks that was intimidating to me. She has a fashion model body which means long legs but small tits and her ass was not as tight as I like but having a looser ass meant there was a better wiggle when she walked.
So I think this woman could be a Price is Right Model but I am not sure she is in the top 10 looks wise of the women I have been with. What she did have and it may have been #1 in terms of looks was presence. When we went to the hotel restaurant, every guy stared. When we walked down the street at 8 AM and she is draped around me normally that would prevent other men from gawking. With her, it did not do shit. So many guys honked their horns at her, it was like she was going to cause an accident. And then when we were walking and pass a guy, it was like half the men stopped, turned back, and looked at her ass, and they were not subtle about it. What got me was that she was almost oblivious to it like this is normal for every woman. She was wearing a mini skirt, is tall, and showed off her legs and sexy walk. That is what made guys go nuts.
But it was the sex part that got me. The woman could not get enough. I had to pace myself with her and hold my back my cum this time so I was not drained and it worked. I was able to somewhat keep up with her and not get so drained.
Still, I had to know the why me part, right? So I basically asked and what she said, and I believe, is that I understood her so quickly. She gets bored easily and wants to engage in extreme activities to get her high, and I told her we would travel to places where she could do the extreme sports.
The other part is that not only did she have a very possessive ex boyfriend, but her older brother was obsessed with protecting her as well. The ex-BF went through her phone, demanded to know who she met with, demanded to know where she was all the time, and it wore her down. Once again, I knew the new was most important to her as was her freedom to do the new. So when I did my sugar daddy schtick and say when we are together, we are together but you can see whomever you want when we are apart (as can I), that was appealing to her.
I have paid for "the best" for and sometimes I got a great experience and sometimes I did not, but there is only one other time I have had a had a woman with as much passion to fuck with me as with this girl, and I am not sure if you can buy desire.
I talked to this girl about going to Mexico and hanging out with my two Mexican SBs and how much fun it would be. She hesitated. I wondered why. She didn't say no, but she was not enthusiastic about it. I woke up the next day and said to her "I know why you do not want to go with the other women. You are afraid you are not going to get enough sex." And she smiles and basically said yes. I have never had a hot woman worry about not getting enough sex.
I think this girl is in a freedom phase but eventually I am going to get old for her too. She will need a guy in her life that is going to force her to be organized, and that is not going to be me. So I doubt this is going to be a long ride with her, but I am going to enjoy the ride nonetheless.
So Mr. E I agree with you that if you paid 50,000 COP to the same girl that I paid 300,000 to, we would have the same sexual experience. I just am not so sure if you have a john mindset that all that matters is money that you get a girl like this. If she perceived that you were using money to control her, IMO she would not be open to you.
Again, I get that guys do not believe that a price is right type model fucked the shit out of me and did not ask for any money. I joked with one member here, "The guys here are not going to believe me. Shit, I was there, and I do not believe me", but it happened. And that is the other part, if you do not believe women like this exist, are you ever going to find one? I think the answer to that is no.
[QUOTE=Xpartan;2544430]Well, you must be playing for Napoli then, LOL.[/QUOTE]Ha ha, nice one LOL.
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2544490]So I doubt this is going to be a long ride with her, but I am going to enjoy the ride nonetheless.[/QUOTE]You have to do that with everybody because you just don't know. I have talked to chicks and the next day they just disappear. Recently happened with a chick in Dominican Republic. Laughing and gigling one day and the next day she disappeared into thin air. Next time I was in town I went by the salon that she owns and it was still there but it was closed. No idea what the duck happened to her.
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2544490]So Mr. E I agree with you that if you paid 50,000 COP to the same girl that I paid 300,000 to, we would have the same sexual experience. I just am not so sure if you have a john mindset that all that matters is money that you get a girl like this.[/QUOTE]What you describe is my definition of GFE. I see most guys saying it means whether the chick is going to kiss you or not, but that has never been my sense of the meaning. In the good old days in Rio damn near every chick was the way you described your interactions with this chick. And I guess that is why so many guys fell for them.
You did not look at them as hookers because they would hang out with you forever doing whatever so there seemed to be chemistry. I even had one that on Sundays I would gather my friends up and she would gather her friends up and we would go to the supermarket and they would make a big Sunday feast for us at her house. You can't buy that and it seems to be a lost art these days.
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2544490]This is an interesting post, Mr. E, and it has been debated for decades. Do you get what you pay for? In general, I think it is true, but there are things more important than money for some women.
So one seeking girl I tell her my sugar daddy schtick, and she is down with being one of my SBs and I say I expect SBs to bareback me but she did not want to talk money but safety. She wanted to know if I had been tested, and I showed her my tests and then she was good to go with barebacking. So it was not money that did it.
She was really good in bed but I could tell she was not giving 100%, and I think she was uncertain about the whole arrangement. So my deal is that I am going to meet your needs more than just throw money at you. IMO if I direct a woman's money to health and education, she is going to be appreciative but if it goes to drugs and frivolous objects, she is not going to ever be satisfied and resentful.
Thing is that I do not really care how much I spend on items like health and education then as long as it really is going to that. I get that people may not buy this Biblical phrase from Jesus but I do. Jesus warned us about this when he said, "Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moths and vermin destroy, and where thieves break in and steal. But store up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust destroys, and where thieves do not break in or steal.".[/QUOTE]Great post, I'm guessing you are speaking over the heads of most, you can't teach AP calculus to pre-schoolers Elvis.
Most guys are clueless including but maybe even especially the married non mongers.
This can be done on any stratum in the mongering or non mongers milieux.
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2544490]This is an interesting post, Mr. E, and it has been debated for decades. Do you get what you pay for? In general, I think it is true, but there are things more important than money for some women.
So one seeking girl I tell her my sugar daddy schtick, and she is down with being one of my SBs and I say I expect SBs to bareback me but she did not want to talk money but safety. She wanted to know if I had been tested, and I showed her my tests and then she was good to go with barebacking. So it was not money that did it.
She was really good in bed but I could tell she was not giving 100%, and I think she was uncertain about the whole arrangement. So my deal is that I am going to meet your needs more than just throw money at you. IMO if I direct a woman's money to health and education, she is going to be appreciative but if it goes to drugs and frivolous objects, she is not going to ever be satisfied and resentful.
Thing is that I do not really care how much I spend on items like health and education then as long as it really is going to that. I get that people may not buy this Biblical phrase from Jesus but I do. Jesus warned us about this when he said, "Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moths and vermin destroy, and where thieves break in and steal. But store up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust destroys, and where thieves do not break in or steal."
So my thing is that if you really try to improve the life of another person, you get rewarded for it maybe not right away but you do. That is what I mean by investment. So with her, she has anemia, an eye issue, and her knees are killing her. I go to a pharmacy and get her medications. All I ask for money wise is for generics, and when the bill comes due, I just paid it. It was less than a $100, but I really was not counting as the total got higher. I also bought her some tennis shoes and a bikini so she could swim in the hotel pool. A lot of times you do something to make someone feel better, and it is forgotten quickly, and I did not think I was going to get an immediate benefit to it.
But I was wrong. She loves her shoes. She feels great walking in them. She has taken her medication and feels better. When we get back to the hotel, she then throws me on the bed and fucks the shit out of me. This is what I knew was there and was hoping to get from her, genuine desire, and I am not sure you can really buy that. If I had paid this girl $500 and she felt lousy, I am not sure that she would have performed as she did.
The other parts that surprised me is that we go to the pool and she is so happy. She is like a five year old playing in the pool squealing with delight. And she tells the only person close to her in her life, her mother, what I did for her.
This is where being a SD versus a john comes in. Does any parent want to here, "Hey mom, I met this guy and he paid $500 to fuck me"? If you compare that to what she said, "Hey mom, I met this guy. He got me medication, and I feel better than I have in over a year", you get a different reaction. In this mother's case it was being on my side and her saying, "Do not lose this guy. " That is something very few here can relate to: mom being an advocate for you and not an enemy.
Maybe there are gals that the Middle East guys see that I have not, but I doubt it. I have fucked women who have gone to the Middle East. I have had a Penthouse Pet, been with the #1 escort on Big Dog back in the day, been with Maxim models, and porn stars, but the best women I have met from seeking are better than all of them.
JJBee has accused me of bragging about my best experiences, but the truth is that this past week in Bogota I had three below average and three great ones. The three great times were all with women I had seen before. I just think guys want to read more about the great times than the bad or average ones.
The best one was a model from the coast. The last time I went she ruined two days for me in Bogota because she fucked me for so hard and so long that she drained me. I did not see her a second time that trip and I really was not sure why. She was so hot and so good in bed, I had to think about why and subconsciously I rejected her thinking, "What is someone so hot and so good in bed doing with me? There must be something wrong with her. " Shit, she did not even ask for money.
But it was more the sex than the looks that was intimidating to me. She has a fashion model body which means long legs but small tits and her ass was not as tight as I like but having a looser ass meant there was a better wiggle when she walked.
So I think this woman could be a Price is Right Model but I am not sure she is in the top 10 looks wise of the women I have been with. What she did have and it may have been #1 in terms of looks was presence. When we went to the hotel restaurant, every guy stared. When we walked down the street at 8 AM and she is draped around me normally that would prevent other men from gawking. With her, it did not do shit. So many guys honked their horns at her, it was like she was going to cause an accident. And then when we were walking and pass a guy, it was like half the men stopped, turned back, and looked at her ass, and they were not subtle about it. What got me was that she was almost oblivious to it like this is normal for every woman. She was wearing a mini skirt, is tall, and showed off her legs and sexy walk. That is what made guys go nuts.
But it was the sex part that got me. The woman could not get enough. I had to pace myself with her and hold my back my cum this time so I was not drained and it worked. I was able to somewhat keep up with her and not get so drained.
Still, I had to know the why me part, right? So I basically asked and what she said, and I believe, is that I understood her so quickly. She gets bored easily and wants to engage in extreme activities to get her high, and I told her we would travel to places where she could do the extreme sports.
The other part is that not only did she have a very possessive ex boyfriend, but her older brother was obsessed with protecting her as well. The ex-BF went through her phone, demanded to know who she met with, demanded to know where she was all the time, and it wore her down. Once again, I knew the new was most important to her as was her freedom to do the new. So when I did my sugar daddy schtick and say when we are together, we are together but you can see whomever you want when we are apart (as can I), that was appealing to her.
I have paid for "the best" for and sometimes I got a great experience and sometimes I did not, but there is only one other time I have had a had a woman with as much passion to fuck with me as with this girl, and I am not sure if you can buy desire.
I talked to this girl about going to Mexico and hanging out with my two Mexican SBs and how much fun it would be. She hesitated. I wondered why. She didn't say no, but she was not enthusiastic about it. I woke up the next day and said to her "I know why you do not want to go with the other women. You are afraid you are not going to get enough sex." And she smiles and basically said yes. I have never had a hot woman worry about not getting enough sex.
I think this girl is in a freedom phase but eventually I am going to get old for her too. She will need a guy in her life that is going to force her to be organized, and that is not going to be me. So I doubt this is going to be a long ride with her, but I am going to enjoy the ride nonetheless.
So Mr. E I agree with you that if you paid 50,000 COP to the same girl that I paid 300,000 to, we would have the same sexual experience. I just am not so sure if you have a john mindset that all that matters is money that you get a girl like this. If she perceived that you were using money to control her, IMO she would not be open to you.
Again, I get that guys do not believe that a price is right type model fucked the shit out of me and did not ask for any money. I joked with one member here, "The guys here are not going to believe me. Shit, I was there, and I do not believe me", but it happened. And that is the other part, if you do not believe women like this exist, are you ever going to find one? I think the answer to that is no.[/QUOTE]It's difficult to enjoy the typical Prepago. Over the years I've been lucky to meet my share of non pros or at least a chipper. I describe a chipper as a woman who will never be seen working the street or a place like SF. Most are students or single moms who need some help. Others are total non pros, we rarely mention money or time. As anyone of the senior members can attest to, is that in almost every Latin American country many secretaries, receptionists in hotels, shops can be had with a little game and a promise of a gift, or dinner or a little help. I've had more than my share of working girls over the years, The old tired bullshit of how much, for how long, what will she do bla ba bla.
I'm just not willing to go that way. One of my best experiences was in Lima. Met a knock out waitress in Pizza Alley near Parque Kennedy By the time me and a buddy finished the pizza I had her phone number, we met the next day, had lunch in Larcomar, I bought her a blouse in one of the shops and she stayed with me for 4 days, she would go to work in the pizza shop everyday and came right back to my hotel when her shift was over. She had a killer body and was A lot of fun, a really cool chick to be with. We had every type of sex you can think of, never spoke of money ever. I'm sure I gave her more than she was expecting but Girls do better with me if we don't get into negotiations. I saw here over and over again for the next few years, whenever I was in Lima, until she moved away. ;(My advise to any newbees in the hobby is to get out of apartments, the Mezzanine and SF and meet some local girls. Go to Unicento Commercial say Hi to any girl you like, start a conversation, invite her to coffee or a drink and you'll be amazed how open Latin women are to meeting you. I'd say you will land one out of 6 or 7.
Unless you look like Quasimodo jaja Happy hunting and stay safe.
[QUOTE=LatinaLover#1;2544767]Met a knock out waitress in Pizza Alley near Parque Kennedy By the time me and a buddy finished the pizza I had her phone number, we met the next day, had lunch in Larcomar, I bought her a blouse in one of the shops and she stayed with me for 4 days, she would go to work in the pizza shop everyday and came right back to my hotel when her shift was over. She had a killer body and was A lot of fun, a really cool chick to be with. We had every type of sex you can think of, never spoke of money ever. I'm sure I gave her more than she was expecting but Girls do better with me if we don't get into negotiations.[/QUOTE]How did you determine that she was expecting anything at all?
[QUOTE=LatinaLover#1;2544767]
Unless you look like Quasimodo jaja Happy hunting and stay safe.[/QUOTE]I'll stick my dick into almost anything if the price is right (free is best). I do love the connection you build with non pro's but that connection usually costs more at the end of the day. The older I get the more I want to hoard my money LOL.
[QUOTE=Luminus;2544959]I'll stick my dick into almost anything if the price is right (free is best). I do love the connection you build with non pro's but that connection usually costs more at the end of the day. The older I get the more I want to hoard my money LOL.[/QUOTE]I hear you, sometimes you pay them to leave jaja.
[QUOTE=LuvMexicanas;2544943]I've seen my fair share of ISG posters do this even to the extent of deluding themselves into believing these chicks aren't hookers at all.[/QUOTE]"You fall in love with a hooker, your falling in love by yourself. ".
[QUOTE=LatinaLover#1;2544767]It's difficult to enjoy the typical Prepago. Over the years I've been lucky to meet my share of non pros or at least a chipper. I describe a chipper as a woman who will never be seen working the street or a place like SF. Most are students or single moms who need some help. Others are total non pros, we rarely mention money or time. As anyone of the senior members can attest to, is that in almost every Latin American country many secretaries, receptionists in hotels, shops can be had with a little game and a promise of a gift, or dinner or a little help. I've had more than my share of working girls over the years, The old tired bullshit of how much, for how long, what will she do bla ba bla.
I'm just not willing to go that way. One of my best experiences was in Lima. Met a knock out waitress in Pizza Alley near Parque Kennedy By the time me and a buddy finished the pizza I had her phone number, we met the next day, had lunch in Larcomar, I bought her a blouse in one of the shops and she stayed with me for 4 days, she would go to work in the pizza shop everyday and came right back to my hotel when her shift was over. She had a killer body and was A lot of fun, a really cool chick to be with. We had every type of sex you can think of, never spoke of money ever. I'm sure I gave her more than she was expecting but Girls do better with me if we don't get into negotiations. I saw here over and over again for the next few years, whenever I was in Lima, until she moved away..[/QUOTE][QUOTE=LuvMexicanas;2544943]I've seen my fair share of ISG posters do this even to the extent of deluding themselves into believing these chicks aren't hookers at all.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=LatinaLover#1;2545106]I hear you, sometimes you pay them to leave jaja.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=LatinaLover#1;2545110]"You fall in love with a hooker, your falling in love by yourself. ".[/QUOTE]Much love and respect to all but there is a reason why this expression has stood the test of time and experience, listen to it again, read it again, and again, and again, and again so it can sink in, here it goes:
"The only honest woman is a prostitute."
I have arrived, after countless decades participating in just about every different form and concoction regarding sex for pay and sex in return for some form of something of value and have come to the conclusion that I have total respect for the real honest prostitutes, their is no blah blah blah involved, they know what they do and say it like it is.
Those that you find on FaceBook or Tinder or SA or a Cupid site or Sugar Daddy site are all selling their pussy, period! And I love them all for it but just say it like it is.
The Tall Man.
[QUOTE=LuvMexicanas;2544943]I've seen my fair share of ISG posters do this even to the extent of deluding themselves into believing these chicks aren't hookers at all.[/QUOTE]Yes, many ISG posters even call them non-pros or ¨my girlfriend¨. LOL.
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[QUOTE=Turgid;2545287]Yes, many ISG posters even call them non-pros or my girlfriend. LOL.[/QUOTE]I have soooo. Many girlfriends. So many I can only them 1/2 hour every 2 weeks or so-- Special ones more often.
[QUOTE=Luminus;2544959]I'll stick my dick into almost anything if the price is right (free is best). I do love the connection you build with non pro's but that connection usually costs more at the end of the day. The older I get the more I want to hoard my money LOL.[/QUOTE]Luminus,
I like your post the best. I can tell you are a seasoned pro to have made a comment like that. Yeah, the interesting thing is that you are right. Pro pussy costs less in strictly financial terms. That is why guys do it. One thing that bugged me is the more serious you get with a woman, the pussy seems to fade.
So yeah, I talked abut my banging the price is right model who was draped all over me when we went out from [URL]seeking.com[/URL]. I didn't talk about the woman who asked for 300 k up front, was 20 lbs fatter than her pics, wanted everything covered, and when I kicked her out literally would have been more satisfied if I just masturbated. The thing I do not think guys get is that I get Price is Right model because I was always looking to find better. When you are doing [URL]seeking.com[/URL] unlike hos, you do not have the benefit of reviews or women advertising what they offer sexually. It is the Wild West.
Because seeking is the Wild West, you can find anything there including a girlfriend. The concept that you should put a woman on a pedestal just because she advertises there is ludicrous as one poster here did. My story got cut off because I was harsh towards that poster, but I had one seeking woman insist on my getting sexually tested. The long and short of it is that I did, and everything was fine. However, the reason the seeking angel wanted testing was not for her to be safe but because she had herpes and was afraid she gave it to me. This story flies in the face of the poster thinking that Santa Fe working girls are diseased whereas seeking girls are pristine.
Thing is if you go into seeking with the mindset every woman is a working girl you will be treated like a john. If you have a mindset that allows you just the chance that a woman is not just a working girl, something guys say you are being naive in doing, then you are going to miss out on some great experiences. As Mr. E had pointed out to me and another poster, if she is not asking for money, why give her any? You should be open to the notion that she may like you for something other than money.
Luminus, I like what you said though with regards to how non-pros cost more than pros. The reason men often go the pro route is because the pros are cheaper. I am not sure Mr. E lets that happen. If not, then he truly is the master.
In Medellin, I have a woman I call my sugar baby wife. Unlike a hooker, she would do anything sexual I wanted, but she gets upset when she knows I see other women. I will say this though. When I am with her, I do not feel lonely and many times when I am with a working girl, I can feel more alone than if I were just by myself.
It is funny though if I did add up the amount of money I gave her not directly but how much she costed me (taking her family out to dinner, helping out with an expense) then yeah you are right. I think a pro would have been cheaper if you just count the sex. If you count the hours of companionship, then it would be no. If you put value on other things she did (massage, packing my suitcase, doing my laundry) then you could make the case she is a bargain.
The real issue is if you are using your money not only to put her on a pedestal but to pay for one. Inevitably, to paraphrase Rodney Dangerfield, most women go from giving great head to great headache while costing even more money. It is THAT part that guys need to be on the lookout for more than anything else.
To me, the issue of a title of wife or GF is often interpreted by women that they have to work less hard on a relationship than harder. I will say that is one of the things I have done with her that I have not in the past. I have told her that I do not want to hear her ***** about other women and have insisted that she is not my GF. I am not going to fall into that trap. Just because you are fucking me and like me does not mean you are my GF. You have to earn my monogamy and too many guys just throw it anyway. Men say, "Uh, Okay, we are fucking now, I guess the rules say I should only be fucking you." If rejecting that custom makes me an asshole, then so be it.
That is so much why that poster rubbed me the wrong way. On the one hand, you got a guy like him arguing that seeking girls are not like the ones on Santa Fe. Then you have some others saying there is no difference between seeking women and working girls. The reality is you get every kind of woman there is on [URL]seeking.com[/URL]: from the hookers that make the ones on Santa Fe look like a bargain to the angels that are wife material.
But you are right Luminus, the angels usually do cost more than the hookers. LOL.
Shots.
You guys worthless, Unless you get your Shots.
Stop reporting Nothing.
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Report something Useful!
About where you get Laid and what is Open?
Please!
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2545379]Luminus,
I like your post the best. I can tell you are a seasoned pro to have made a comment like that. Yeah, the interesting thing is that you are right. Pro pussy costs less in strictly financial terms. That is why guys do it. One thing that bugged me is the more serious you get with a woman, the pussy seems to fade.
So yeah, I talked abut my banging the price is right model who was draped all over me when we went out from [URL]seeking.com[/URL]. I didn't talk about the woman who asked for 300 k up front, was 20 lbs fatter than her pics, wanted everything covered, and when I kicked her out literally would have been more satisfied if I just masturbated. The thing I do not think guys get is that I get Price is Right model because I was always looking to find better. When you are doing [URL]seeking.com[/URL] unlike hos, you do not have the benefit of reviews or women advertising what they offer sexually. It is the Wild West.
Because seeking is the Wild West, you can find anything there including a girlfriend. The concept that you should put a woman on a pedestal just because she advertises there is ludicrous as one poster here did. My story got cut off because I was harsh towards that poster, but I had one seeking woman insist on my getting sexually tested. The long and short of it is that I did, and everything was fine. However, the reason the seeking angel wanted testing was not for her to be safe but because she had herpes and was afraid she gave it to me. This story flies in the face of the poster thinking that Santa Fe working girls are diseased whereas seeking girls are pristine...[/QUOTE]Dude,
You can't just let it go. You continue to comment on unrelated posts while desperately making connections to previous topics in an attempt to drag my name through the dirt. One minute you say that I'm putting girls on a pedestal by pointing out that [URL]seeking.com[/URL] is not an escort site and has regular non-prostitutes on there. The next you're pointing out how if you treat every girl like a prostitute they'll all treat you like a John. You're a walking contradiction. I said it before, you weren't arguing like someone who wanted to understand the other side of the argument, you were arguing like someone with a personal vendetta against someone who you don't know so you are filling the gaps with presumptions, and that's what you continue to do.
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Fantastic posts. Among the most insightful in a while on the whole Pro vs NonPro.
No question that NonPro are more costly and consume a lot more hours. Each monger has their own objectives of course. For some, SF is the only way and anything else is a waste of time and money.
For me, top on my list is GFE. TLN or longer. Passion rather than appearance. Prefer MILF / maduro. Rather repeat with the same sure thing than roll the dice in search of something else.
Here's my take on the site options and what you find. I've been visiting to BOG often - 25 trips in 11 years. I really want to get your point of view and feel free to contradict, so have at it.
Pro sites in no particular order:
1- PhotoPrepago. Surprisingly what you see is what you get, 90% of the time for me. Quite different from similar sites in other countries where it's very likely that you get someone entirely different from what you see or photos are very old / retouched. Performance is YMMV. User reviews are sometimes accurate, sometimes fake.
2- mileroticos. Highest number of listings by far. More than a few are from casas or SF but will list that they are from elsewhere. In my experience, most unreliable (no show, no answer, different chica). Most numerous listings / most useful when traveling outside of BOG + MDE. But, I've also found some BOG gems here.
3- Niisha / solitasparati. Limited roster, but high quality. Not cheap.
4- LaCelestina. Looks great. Expensive. Very limited experience and I want to get your input.
Pro / NonPro:
1- SA. I'm only trying for the first time. It seems very different in COL than in US. Seems most profiles / chats I connect with are looking for husband rather than NSA.
2- CC. I've done 1 month memberships a few times over the past decade. Maybe it is me, but the demographic has changed. Seems it is filled with nonpros looking for marriage. You'll see honesta y fiel and similar listed in their description and what they are looking for. It will take a lot of time and effort, but can pay off for certain.
3- Chaturbate. I've been flamed and accused of making up stories, but I've found this to be a great source. You need to spend a lot of time sifting thru the thousands of Colombians there, but that can be enjoyable in itself. And for sure what you see is what you get. And yes, some who appear there also have a CC profile.
FB, Tinder, Twitter. Not my thing.
I'm sure I am missing some sites. Let's hear some replies. Some other points of view on the above.
[QUOTE=JohnClayton;2543408]I think in '91 I was the only person rooting for Sadaam because I hated the emiratis and kuwaitis so much.[/QUOTE]I think this article by you pretty much explains who you are and what you stand for.
[QUOTE=Woodman09;2542525]Had 3 very great sessions and stopped into Alaska bakery for a bowl of Caldo de Costilla-- I was falling asleep at the table, LOL. So much HotAss pussy out last night -- I woulda went for 4 but-- Could not do it.[/QUOTE]Alaska was a pretty good panaderia when it opened 2 years ago. But the quality declined significantly after the management changed last year.
[QUOTE=GringoTigre;2546482]No question that NonPro are more costly and consume a lot more hours. Each monger has their own objectives of course. [/QUOTE]Definitely depends on your objectives. This is apples and oranges in my opinion. Like saying in home patient care costs more than a trip to the doctor's office. Like saying renting a car costs more than a taxi.
Well the taxi is only going to take me 1 trip from place A to place be. I can keep the rental car 24 hours and drive it as many times and to as many places that I want. Are you only trying to get from A to be, or are trying to go to the amusement park, grocery store, get your kids from school, attend class, pick your mom up from the airport, etc?
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2546758] Definitely depends on your objectives... Like saying renting a car costs more than a taxi.[/QUOTE]Great analogy. If you are in Bogota, it's less effort & cost to get a taxi and they (or Uber) are usually available. You don't necessarily get an enjoyable ride and the vehicle may have a lot of miles on it. If you are outside the city, looking for a ride on a Sunday, your options are limited / nonexistent and can be costly. It's also about the journey and the destination. To go another step further, in NonPro sites like CC, SA there are rental cars and used cars for sale. And it's not immediately obvious.
The title of my post was Where do you find GFE? Elvis2008's post resonated with me.
In going the CC / SA route, there are some easy flags that show that they are only interested in LTR / marriage. Problem is that's all I've been finding lately. Don't know how much COVID is causing that. Unlike some, I am not deceptive and won't pretend to be looking for marriage.
[QUOTE=WorldTravel69;2546177]Shots.
You guys worthless, Unless you get your Shots.
Stop reporting Nothing.
I am trying to keep up the Map and Lists.
Report something Useful!
About where you get Laid and what is Open?
Please![/QUOTE]LOL. I'll repeat. Nanxing Massage Spa in Galerias was open when I went back in February. I appreciate you updating the maps.
Nanxing Spa (03-11-2021).
Carrera 24 #53-86, ring bell 201. Opposite mall Galerias, 10 Masajistas. Prices: Massages 60 min, 90 k with girl in uniform, 120 k in underwear with handjob, 180 k full sex, Tel: 321 485 1113, Cel: 312 812 06 99. Hours: Monday to Saturday 8 am to 10 pm, Sunday 10 am to 7 pm. [URL]www.nanxingspa.com.co[/URL] [URL]https://www.facebook.com/NanxingSpa/[/URL].
[QUOTE=MistaDynamite;2547553]LOL. I'll repeat. Nanxing Massage Spa in Galerias was open when I went back in February. I appreciate you updating the maps.[/QUOTE]
I've been once before but it's been awhile.
Quick request:
1) Can someone post any maps they have?
2) Taxi apps / advice? I managed (poorly) last time with google maps but I don't like handing the driver my phone.
It was a week or so last time and it'll be a week this time so I need to save as much time as possible. I'm a hobbyist but last time was before the pandemic so I'd be happy for any updates.
I'm not a partier, drinker, or night owl anymore. I'm not sure what I'll do when not pursuing the hobby.
I'm looking for GFE, long-term fun, and an English speaking tour guide (I'd prefer it if they were the same person but it's not a requirement).
I wouldn't mind a Santa Fe girl but I'd prefer a longer term and not in those motels.
Thanks.
[QUOTE=SilverTurtle;2546711]Alaska was a pretty good panaderia when it opened 2 years ago. But the quality declined significantly after the management changed last year.[/QUOTE]Yeah, they were slipping for a while-- But they have gotten better-- The Caldo costillo is awesome. Also they have fresh fruit juices Guanabana, Lulo, Maracuya, Guuyaba, mango ++('Tip, Get it and Agua'.
Also try the arroz con leche (rice pudding).
I love sitting in there having a bowl of Caldo and a juice (like tonight) after having great sex. Such Great atmosphere, they play rigatone and mariachi videos on the giant tv.
This has been quite popular in Bogota-- I Just Love Colombian Music Video and this video is Hilarious --Dulce Pecado; [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-b21-NCfNzM&ab_channel=JessiUribe[/URL].
Watch more of Jessi Uribe Videos-- so great -- lotsa sexy chicas.
I really do not do Santa Fe justice in my writing as I'm quite busy working on-line -- I must resolve to do better-.
I love walking through the barrio-- It is so cinematic and interesting. I often get paranoid and think they will all of a sudden say 'Hey-- he is a Fake Latino!
I love contributing to the pussy economy-- More on that later. WM out.
[QUOTE=GringoTigre;2546482]3- Chaturbate. I've been flamed and accused of making up stories, but I've found this to be a great source. You need to spend a lot of time sifting thru the thousands of Colombians there, but that can be enjoyable in itself. And for sure what you see is what you get. And yes, some who appear there also have a CC profile.[/QUOTE]Dude it's crazy how many Colombians are on there. Seems like a pretty easy way to get manipulated though. Like you tell them you're looking to meet in person and they will just tell you to buy their whatsapp number from them for a pretty hefty price, and you have no way to tell if they actually have any intention of meeting or if they just want tokens. There are some really hot girls though who seem like they don't make that much money on there so I don't doubt its potential. Care to elaborate on your approach?
[QUOTE=Diviant;2548207]Can someone post any maps they have?[/QUOTE]The map is here [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2205-Bogota-Lists[/URL].
The Maps are here:
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2205-Bogota-Lists[/URL]
[QUOTE=Diviant;2548207]I've been once before but it's been awhile.
Quick request:
1) Can someone post any maps they have?
2) Taxi apps / advice? I managed (poorly) last time with google maps but I don't like handing the driver my phone.
It was a week or so last time and it'll be a week this time so I need to save as much time as possible. I'm a hobbyist but last time was before the pandemic so I'd be happy for any updates.
I'm not a partier, drinker, or night owl anymore. I'm not sure what I'll do when not pursuing the hobby.
I'm looking for GFE, long-term fun, and an English speaking tour guide (I'd prefer it if they were the same person but it's not a requirement).
I wouldn't mind a Santa Fe girl but I'd prefer a longer term and not in those motels.
Thanks.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=WorldTravel69;2548439]The Maps are here:
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2205-Bogota-Lists[/URL][/QUOTE]Thanks at World Traveler and at Talkyes.
I'm staying at the Tequendama Hotel again. More because it was easy and it's fairly decent, if outdated.
I again got a airbnb close to the hotel just for the hobby. I only used it once before with an SA girl but some of the girls in the ads don't go to hotels and I can go and not have to worry about my stuff / money with "guest" as it'll be at the hotel.
P.S. I paid too much for the SA girl but she was so great. I spent time with her, she spoke English, and was the most beautiful of all last time. I would love more of that. Unfortunately, she didn't last. I'm trying SA now but I don't have the time I did last time.
At Woodman09.
I found one English speaking taxi last time. I really should have saved his number but as my preference is at least an hour. (even if I don't take that long, I can be less anxious about time and take my time with the beautiful girls). I was wondering if I could pay a taxi to drive me around Santa Fe and ask the girls to come back or meet me later at the airbnb. For a monger with GFE /"my place" preference would that work?
I'd prefer to find the girls during the day as I prefer to stay in at night. I like the service at either time but I think you find girls are willing to do more and stay later at night. Not sure why.
Also, I downloaded Cabify and Beat but I'm having trouble registering either. I had this problem last time in Bogota as my sim was only internet (I believe). I thought some people on a tour told me they registered them before they came down but. Idunno.
Oh, this is probably somewhere but do you guys normally have to pay first? I have been. Is it different per type?
* Street.
* Prepagos.
* Spa.
I know spas are supposed to be the same thing but I didn't find / try a brothel last time. Thoughts?
Thanks.
[QUOTE=Talkyes;2548300]Dude it's crazy how many Colombians are on there. Seems like a pretty easy way to get manipulated though.[/QUOTE]That is no surprise. Colombia and Philippines are the biggest. In Philippines they set up video chat centers just to run scams on guys. Half of the time it is transvestites that you are talking to but they have a video of the hot girl you think you are talking to. They even have it down to where if you say something like put up the last 3 fingers on your right hand that they can move to that part of the video to convince you. Then eventually mfs start sending money or they extort you to send money after they have collected your info and gotten you to do compromising shit on video.
[QUOTE=Woodman09;2548264]Yeah, they were slipping for a while-- But they have gotten better-- The Caldo costillo is awesome. Also they have fresh fruit juices Guanabana, Lulo, Maracuya, Guuyaba, mango ++('Tip, Get it and Agua'.
Also try the arroz con leche (rice pudding).
I love sitting in there having a bowl of Caldo and a juice (like tonight) after having great sex. Such Great atmosphere, they play rigatone and mariachi videos on the giant tv.
This has been quite popular in Bogota-- I Just Love Colombian Music Video and this video is Hilarious --Dulce Pecado; [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-b21-NCfNzM&ab_channel=JessiUribe[/URL].
Watch more of Jessi Uribe Videos-- so great -- lotsa sexy chicas.
I really do not do Santa Fe justice in my writing as I'm quite busy working on-line -- I must resolve to do better-.
I love walking through the barrio-- It is so cinematic and interesting. I often get paranoid and think they will all of a sudden say 'Hey-- he is a Fake Latino!
I love contributing to the pussy economy-- More on that later. WM out.[/QUOTE]I'll check Alaska out next time I'm there.
Watching the Jessi Uribe video now. It's smooth. I can't help but expect at any moment Antonio Banderas is going to appear w his guitar and start a gun fight LMAO.
I heard Medellin is extending it's weekday and weekend curfews and no alcohol sales until April 19th based on high hospitalization rate. Other areas in Colombia like Bogota are still low and are playing curfews by ear based on their hospitalization numbers, which are lower than Medellin's.
Me and my girlfriend flew to Bogota from Medellin since Medellin was on lockdown. We went to Pussy house which was closed and some other places that were closed too, don't remember the names. Our taxi ended up taking us to Lido. This place was outrageously expensive they wanted 45 k cop plus iva for a beer. We were looking for a girl to take out, go to a bar have some drinks and dance we ended up leaving empty handed way too expensive. I think the girls wanted something like 500 k and that was for one hour there.
I will be flying from Bogota to Medellin soon. Did you need anything special to fly from city to city? A covid test or anything or were able to just board the plane with no problem and didn't have to show anything once you landed in the next city?
[QUOTE=Mechanic88;2548798]Me and my girlfriend flew to Bogota from Medellin since Medellin was on lockdown. We went to Pussy house which was closed and some other places that were closed too, don't remember the names. Our taxi ended up taking us to Lido. This place was outrageously expensive they wanted 45 k cop plus iva for a beer. We were looking for a girl to take out, go to a bar have some drinks and dance we ended up leaving empty handed way too expensive. I think the girls wanted something like 500 k and that was for one hour there.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Mechanic88;2548798]Me and my girlfriend flew to Bogota from Medellin since Medellin was on lockdown. We went to Pussy house which was closed and some other places that were closed too, don't remember the names. Our taxi ended up taking us to Lido. This place was outrageously expensive they wanted 45 k cop plus iva for a beer. We were looking for a girl to take out, go to a bar have some drinks and dance we ended up leaving empty handed way too expensive. I think the girls wanted something like 500 k and that was for one hour there.[/QUOTE]The Clubs in Santa Fe are open all night-- Lotsa Hot Girls-- I was in Troya and Venus last night-- Nice!
[QUOTE=Woodman09;2548906]The Clubs in Santa Fe are open all night-- Lotsa Hot Girls-- I was in Troya and Venus last night-- Nice![/QUOTE]Yeah I told my girl but she gets very sketched out easily and didn't want to go.
Just curious, what does CC stand for?
[QUOTE=GringoTigre;2546482]Luminus and Elvis-.
Fantastic posts. Among the most insightful in a while on the whole Pro vs NonPro.
No question that NonPro are more costly and consume a lot more hours. Each monger has their own objectives of course. For some, SF is the only way and anything else is a waste of time and money.
For me, top on my list is GFE. TLN or longer. Passion rather than appearance. Prefer MILF / maduro. Rather repeat with the same sure thing than roll the dice in search of something else.
Here's my take on the site options and what you find. I've been visiting to BOG often - 25 trips in 11 years. I really want to get your point of view and feel free to contradict, so have at it.
Pro sites in no particular order:
1- PhotoPrepago. Surprisingly what you see is what you get, 90% of the time for me. Quite different from similar sites in other countries where it's very likely that you get someone entirely different from what you see or photos are very old / retouched. Performance is YMMV. User reviews are sometimes accurate, sometimes fake..[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Forever18;2549109]Just curious, what does CC stand for?[/QUOTE]Just a wild guess.
I believe I posted the question but it was one among too many.
I believe I read that you guys don't prepay.
Normally, I have, not always but I was hoping to get your ideas and strategies. Is it different per type of agreement e. G. SW vs. PP vs. SA?
Is it clear upfront? I guess that applies to when negotiations are over the phone / text / internet.
Do you just say sorry no way or?
Thanks.
P.S. I'm flying out tomorrow.
[QUOTE=Woodman09;2548906]The Clubs in Santa Fe are open all night-- Lotsa Hot Girls-- I was in Troya and Venus last night-- Nice![/QUOTE]Woodman, the clubs are open even with the quarantine in full effect in Bogota?
The Tall Man.
[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2549206]Woodman, the clubs are open even with the quarantine in full effect in Bogota?
The Tall Man.[/QUOTE]I do not know how it is now. They were open when I was there this afternoon. And the other night.
The clubs were open all through the past lock downs, they are obviously paid off. I don't see why this latest restriction would be any different.
[QUOTE=Talkyes;2548300]Dude it's crazy how many Colombians are on there. Seems like a pretty easy way to get manipulated though. Like you tell them you're looking to meet in person and they will just tell you to buy their whatsapp number from them for a pretty hefty price, and you have no way to tell if they actually have any intention of meeting or if they just want tokens. There are some really hot girls though who seem like they don't make that much money on there so I don't doubt its potential. Care to elaborate on your approach?[/QUOTE]Yeah, there are quite literally thousands of Colombianas on Chatturbate. They come in all shapes, sizes, and backgrounds. Some broadcast from their house, others from a studio.
Easy way to get manipulated? If you're careless and without a clue, that's absolutely possible thru Chatur, any of the other sites, or in person. Use discretion and you should be fine. Buying a whasapp number with tokens is a big no for me, as are upsells. Ignore all of the tips menus, and tokens for content (whatsapp numbers, snapchat, insta). Also, you can pretty easily spot when someone else is doing the typing.
Sidenote: On Chattur and IRL, my experience is that paisas are most likely to upsell. And not just a simple upsell but a whining one that is a real turn off for me. Other veterans please comment if that's consistent with your experiences.
So then, how have I succeeded?
So many of the girls there are bored out of there minds and are happy to chat by PM with anyone who has tokens (color by your handle indicates you are not a freeloader). Start chatting by IN SPANISH about every day stuff. It's a great way to practice your Spanish and / or get good with copy / paste from translator. Have them talk about what they are interested in. Favorite foods, travel destinations that they have been to or want to visit. Same as you would IRL at a bar. Chat for a while, maybe do a private show, and then return to chatting. Doing a Cam2 Cam to show you're not a monster is a good idea.
Most of all, bring up Colombia and how much you love the country (if you have been) or how much you are looking forward to discovering (if you're taking first trip). Tell them about a great restaurant that you know of that just happens to be their favorite cuisine. Trip advisor can help if you don't actually know one. I've had many honest offers for a personal tour.
Sometimes you can get a whassapp on the first encounter, sometimes it takes a return visit. I've been given numbers without even asking, but never followed thru on those. I've had luck in BOG, Bucaramanga, and a few much smaller cities.
I'm most into 30-45 yo MILFs, but a wingman I know has connected with 20-25 year olds because that's his thing.
[QUOTE=Woodman09;2549229]I do not know how it is now. They were open when I was there this afternoon. And the other night.
The clubs were open all through the past lock downs, they are obviously paid off. I don't see why this latest restriction would be any different.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the repose. Interesting but not at all surprised, just the ebb and flow here in Colombia hehehehe.
The Tall Man.
[QUOTE=Woodman09;2549229]I do not know how it is now. They were open when I was there this afternoon. And the other night.
The clubs were open all through the past lock downs, they are obviously paid off. I don't see why this latest restriction would be any different.[/QUOTE]I was there tonight until about 10 pm. Girls there told me that if you get their number, they can manage to go see you in your hotel during the lockdown. So the implication I took from that is that Santa Fe may be pretty dead if not closed down til Tuesday early morning assuming lockdown does not get extended. Since movement around the city should be severely restricted, I don't know how anyone would be able to get to your hotel but a couple of girls seemed confident and offered their what's app to arrange.
By the way, you are supposed to be allowed an hour outside each day for exercise and doctor's appointments and certain other reasons (presumably going to airport to catch international flight for example) get an exemption so there should be some movement outside.
Very little traffic but there were a fair number of girls-- Many Hot! I was just walking through. Definitely could have had some fun.
Seems like the police are not really chasing them away.
Some guys were trying to get me to go to a club, so some are open although since many Colombians are staying home the clubs are probably not as good as usual-.
[QUOTE=TaiwanLaowai;2549647]I was there tonight until about 10 pm. Girls there told me that if you get their number, they can manage to go see you in your hotel during the lockdown. So the implication I took from that is that Santa Fe may be pretty dead if not closed down til Tuesday early morning assuming lockdown does not get extended. Since movement around the city should be severely restricted, I don't know how anyone would be able to get to your hotel but a couple of girls seemed confident and offered their what's app to arrange.
By the way, you are supposed to be allowed an hour outside each day for exercise and doctor's appointments and certain other reasons (presumably going to airport to catch international flight for example) get an exemption so there should be some movement outside.[/QUOTE]Santa Fe is dead as of Saturday and Sunday. There are few chicas, but they are not good at all.
[QUOTE=SilverTurtle;2550328]Santa Fe is dead as of Saturday and Sunday. There are few chicas, but they are not good at all.[/QUOTE]Tuesday is opening (hopefully) -- Should be pretty good.
I spent time online yesterday looking for a place to take the covid test. Everywhere was closed on Sunday (except for the airport which was full), but I managed to make reservations at 2 different Synlabs because I did not know if I would leave Chapinero and go stay downtown or not. Most places were wither 140,000 or 150,000. I had found one place for 100,000 but whenever I tried to pay online for that place it would give me an error message.
My ex-girlfriend from Cali flew back home last night so I had my nurse come over. I told her that I had to find a place to get a covid test. She told me that Cendiatra was good. No appointment needed. Takes 1 hour. And best of all 80,000 pesos.
This morning at 10:30 she left to go to a meeting. I booked a hotel near Atlantis Mall and called Cabify to take me to the clinic. We passed one and I shouted out. He said chill, you are in good hands. He dropped me off at the address. I went in and told the ladies I needed an antigen test. They said they did not do covid tests there, but gave me a slip of paper with another address. I asked if that was the one I had just passed and she said yes.
It was raining a little, but I walked the few blocks with my suitcase back to the other location. I arrived at 12:15. There was one person being served at the counter and the line was outside. There was one guy in front of me. Other people lined up behind me. When the guy in front of me went some moron pulled up and went inside and got behind him ignoring the line. I did not say anything to him although I usually would.
I told the lady I was there for an antigen test. She asked if it was for some company or if I was doing it on my own. I gave her my passport and email and 80,000 pesos. She gave me a sheet to fill out about symptoms and if I had been anywhere that has covid or around anyone with covid. I was to fill that out and hand it to the lab tech that was going to call me.
The lab tech called and I went into the back room and sat in the chair. She had me lower my mask below my nose. She stuck the swab in each nostril and told me they would call me back to the desk with the results in 15 minutes. I went back out to wait and in 14 minutes they called me with the results. I was out of there at 12:59. So no appointment, 80,000 pesos, and 44 minutes arrival until departure.
Now I am at my hotel. I am going to catch a Cabify down to Santa Fe to see what is going on. Bogota is pretty much a ghost town. Some restaurants are open, but they are take away only. Everything else besides health centers and I guess supermarkets and convenience stores is closed.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2550627]Cendiatra was good. No appointment needed. Takes 1 hour. And best of all 80,000 pesos.[/QUOTE]Good to know about.
Cendiatra. You didn't need to go by Cab however, it was easier walking, usying the pedestrial bridge across the highway. By car you need to go all the way around.
[QUOTE=Routard;2550653]Good to know about.
Cendiatra. You didn't need to go by Cab however, it was easier walking, usying the pedestrial bridge across the highway. By car you need to go all the way around.[/QUOTE]35 minute walk. I was staying on Calle 95. Taxi was 7,500 plus I had my luggage.
Santa Fe is wide open as far as street chicks and restaurants. My freakin barber shop is closed so that sux. Well they are actually there but all the chairs are out on the sidewalk. I asked if they were doing business and they said no. I came to eat chicken at the spot next door to it though. 2 big ass pieces, a pile of fries, and juice for 8,500 pesos.
There were already 4 chicks eating in a group among other people. There is a railroad crossing display and the chicks wanted to take pictures in front of it before they left. They went one by one but they were about to leave and wanted a pic together. They asked me to take the picture for them. I said only if I can take it with my phone too. So I took them with mine then tried with hers. Her phone was a piece of garbage and I could not even fit all of them in the frame. I showed them the pix in my Galaxy Note 20 and they were estatic. I got the one chick's whatsapp so I could send the pictures. They asked where I was from and I said Brazil as usual. I asked another one of the chicks (Karen) if she had whatsapp and she did not. She said to just send a message through Erica.
Santa Fe is indeed buzzing. Street walkers all day and night, Troya full by 9 PM, apparently stays open till 3 am which I understand is 3 hours in to the nightly curfew.
Street walkers quoting 40 k for 20 minutes (means 10) and 70 k for 30 minutes (means 20). I've RTFF and get that I should be telling not asking so presumably others are paying less and getting longer times. I was struck by how they all quoted the same, that's new to me. I always find them a disappointing experience, unlike the casas.
Worldtraveller69, Blancos why Negros Rumba bar seems have closed down, changed hands and be something else now.
This was published today in El Tiempo. A number of underage girls from Venezuela were "rescued" and 8 people were arrested and indicted for "facilitation of prostitution in underage men or women". The arrested were a few customers and the administrators of a convenience store who helped them get fake IDs.
[URL]https://www.eltiempo.com/bogota/el-rescate-de-18-menores-victimas-de-explotacion-sexual-580807[/URL]
[QUOTE=Routard;2550653]Good to know about.
Cendiatra. You didn't need to go by Cab however, it was easier walking, usying the pedestrial bridge across the highway. By car you need to go all the way around.[/QUOTE]Most pedestrian bridges in Bogota are very dangerous, including in the North. Be careful there.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2550627]I spent time online yesterday looking for a place to take the covid test. Everywhere was closed on Sunday (except for the airport which was full), but I managed to make reservations at 2 different Synlabs because I did not know if I would leave Chapinero and go stay downtown or not. Most places were wither 140,000 or 150,000. I had found one place for 100,000 but whenever I tried to pay online for that place it would give me an error message.
My ex-girlfriend from Cali flew back home last night so I had my nurse come over. I told her that I had to find a place to get a covid test. She told me that Cendiatra was good. No appointment needed. Takes 1 hour. And best of all 80,000 pesos.
This morning at 10:30 she left to go to a meeting. I booked a hotel near Atlantis Mall and called Cabify to take me to the clinic. We passed one and I shouted out. He said chill, you are in good hands. He dropped me off at the address. I went in and told the ladies I needed an antigen test. They said they did not do covid tests there, but gave me a slip of paper with another address. I asked if that was the one I had just passed and she said yes.
It was raining a little, but I walked the few blocks with my suitcase back to the other location. I arrived at 12:15. There was one person being served at the counter and the line was outside. There was one guy in front of me. Other people lined up behind me. When the guy in front of me went some moron pulled up and went inside and got behind him ignoring the line. I did not say anything to him although I usually would.
I told the lady I was there for an antigen test. She asked if it was for some company or if I was doing it on my own. I gave her my passport and email and 80,000 pesos. She gave me a sheet to fill out about symptoms and if I had been anywhere that has covid or around anyone with covid. I was to fill that out and hand it to the lab tech that was going to call me.
The lab tech called and I went into the back room and sat in the chair. She had me lower my mask below my nose. She stuck the swab in each nostril and told me they would call me back to the desk with the results in 15 minutes. I went back out to wait and in 14 minutes they called me with the results. I was out of there at 12:59. So no appointment, 80,000 pesos, and 44 minutes arrival until departure.
Now I am at my hotel. I am going to catch a Cabify down to Santa Fe to see what is going on. Bogota is pretty much a ghost town. Some restaurants are open, but they are take away only. Everything else besides health centers and I guess supermarkets and convenience stores is closed.[/QUOTE]'Colcan SAS Cra. 15 # 82-04. Int. 2. Bogotá. [EMAIL]Colombiainfo@vitalea.com[/EMAIL] // [URL]www.vitalea.com.co[/URL] Tel. 3 26 87698.
I went to the one on Cra 11 across the street from my Hotel near Parque 93. I wound up in Bogota on Monday of Samana Santa. My PCR test had not arrived in my email by flight time, after an hour of trying to convince an ill-informed agent for Delta that I could still fly to Bogota and stay Quarantined until I got a negative PCR test in Bogota, I was allowed on the plane. The problem was compounded by the upcoming holiday. It takes 24-48 hours to get your test back and the lab will be closed on Holy Thursday. I was lucky to meet of the lab of the Mgr. Steve he gave me his Whatsapp I texted him on Thursday and he sent my results back to me in a few minutes. If it wasn't for him I would have been on lookdown until Monday the next week. But I was able to travel to Tyrona Nat'l Parque Friday morning. Paid 260 cop. On return to Bogota, went back to the same lab. I got my Antigen test on Tuesday for my flight back to the states on Wednesday. Highly recommend this lab if your in the area. Very professional and Steve made sure I got my test even during his day off for the holiday.
[QUOTE=RyckII;2551101]This was published today in El Tiempo. A number of underage girls from Venezuela were "rescued" and 8 people were arrested and indicted for "facilitation of prostitution in underage men or women". The arrested were a few customers and the administrators of a convenience store who helped them get fake IDs.
[URL]https://www.eltiempo.com/bogota/el-rescate-de-18-menores-victimas-de-explotacion-sexual-580807[/URL][/QUOTE]Why did you put "rescued" in quotation marks? If they were underaged, that was indeed a rescue, and whether or not they're seeing it the same way is irrelevant. Along with them, some mongers might've been "rescued" too, mongers who otherwise could've been fooled by their fake IDs. Stay careful out there, folks. ID or no ID, even when slightly in doubt, just move on to the next candidate.
[QUOTE=Xpartan;2551263]Why did you put "rescued" in quotation marks? If they were underaged, that was indeed a rescue, and whether or not they're seeing it the same way is irrelevant.[/QUOTE]Definitely relevant. I was pimping my last year of high school when I was 17 years old. I was indeed underage. I knew what I was doing just like those girls in the article knew what they were doing. Had I been caught, would they have said that I was rescued or captured? I seriously doubt they would have "rescued" me. Helpless, innocent females get "rescued" and big, bad, crafty males get captured.
I will repost a video that I have posted before in another thread. It takes place in Los Angeles. You can see at the 5:30 mark where the reporter says the district attorney said they will stop arresting the female prostitutes (they need rescuing) and instead go harder on the males (they need punishing) that are trying to pick them up and that they are working for.
[url]https://m.worldstarhiphop.com/web/video.php?v=wshh9f90EyL71VxrH97G[/url]
[QUOTE=LatinaLover#1;2551256]Most pedestrian bridges in Bogota are very dangerous, including in the North. Be careful there.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffOZfJWvGuI][/URL]
Not unlike the ped brides in Tijuana.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2551264]Definitely relevant. I was pimping my last year of high school when I was 17 years old. I was indeed underage. I knew what I was doing just like those girls in the article knew what they were doing. Had I been caught, would they have said that I was rescued or captured? I seriously doubt they would have "rescued" me. Helpless, innocent females get "rescued" and big, bad, crafty males get captured.
I will repost a video that I have posted before in another thread. It takes place in Los Angeles. You can see toward the end when the policeman says they will stop arresting the females prostitutes (they need rescuing) and instead go harder on the males (they need punishing) that are trying to pick them up.[/QUOTE]Everyone knows males are always evil even when they are not.
And females are always victims even if they are not!
Just more feminism / social inversion creeping onto the board.
Due to the Pico why Cedula, I had to carry my ID everywhere and this chica managed to get my full name and is threatening to report me to cops if I don't pay the extortion. Unfortunately I already brought her back to my place before all the craziness started to show so she knows where I'm at. Any ideas on how to respond?
[QUOTE=Marrowbone68;2551044]Santa Fe is indeed buzzing. Street walkers all day and night, Troya full by 9 PM, apparently stays open till 3 am which I understand is 3 hours in to the nightly curfew.
Street walkers quoting 40 k for 20 minutes (means 10) and 70 k for 30 minutes (means 20). I've RTFF and get that I should be telling not asking so presumably others are paying less and getting longer times. I was struck by how they all quoted the same, that's new to me. I always find them a disappointing experience, unlike the casas.[/QUOTE]Actually if you choose well you can get a good Fun girl you get your full 20+ I did last night 3 times-- smoked weed in the room too.
But bad dates do happen. Girls that are just not really wanting to be there and just make it a waste of $10.
I have had a few even one recently where the girl started screaming Auxilio and some guys came to the room-- More on that coming up.
I live very close by I have the advantage of getting to know girls and have a great choice of 'girlfriends 'when I go on the prowl the thing about Santa Fe is that there are always new Hotties and I always am feeling the need to fuck a new girl-- just my pathology that I have the luxury of feeding. Always looking for another 'GF'.
Of course you can always go to the clubs and get lap dances which give you a clue of how things may go upstairs.
It is funny sometimes a street girl will be all quiet when you are talking to them and I feel not sure about closing the deal but I have been pleasantly surprised and they turned out to be a great, you cannot always tell when you meet them on street. I always am talking to them just trying to get a clue.
I was with this pretty hot girl a month ago and she seemed like she would be good. We get to the room and she starts acting all bitchy and not letting me feel her up and it just went downhill from there and I pushed her and she starts screaming and I just said Cayate-- and these guy came to the room and she was trying to say I beat her-- and I just laughed called her a Liar ***** and left. Fast forward 10 days I see her and she acts like she wants to fuck and I just laughed. But shit like that has hardly ever happened to me in 9 years.
One thing for sure, guys who do not speak Spanish are at a huge disadvantage. I know-- I only have met and hung out with like 30-50 of them.
A lot of depends on the your attitude ofl. If you can make the girl relax and have a good time it treally helps. If she's afraid you're some kind of freak in it and of course what would you expect?
Or if you're not hygienic. Some mongers think these girls are just machines not so +-they're human just like anybody else and if you treat them with respect you'll likely to get a lot back. A few girls who will try to take advantage of you of course they're always some bad apples that's just the way the world works.
[QUOTE=Woodman09;2551366]Actually if you choose well you can get a good Fun girl you get your full 20+ I did last night 3 times-- smoked weed in the room too.
But bad dates do happen. Girls that are just not really wanting to be there and just make it a waste of $10.
I have had a few even one recently where the girl started screaming Auxilio and some guys came to the room-- More on that coming up.
I live very close by I have the advantage of getting to know girls and have a great choice of 'girlfriends 'when I go on the prowl the thing about Santa Fe is that there are always new Hotties and I always am feeling the need to fuck a new girl-- just my pathology that I have the luxury of feeding. Always looking for another 'GF'.
Of course you can always go to the clubs and get lap dances which give you a clue of how things may go upstairs.
It is funny sometimes a street girl will be all quiet when you are talking to them and I feel not sure about closing the deal but I have been pleasantly surprised and they turned out to be a great, you cannot always tell when you meet them on street. I always am talking to them just trying to get a clue.
I was with this pretty hot girl a month ago and she seemed like she would be good. We get to the room and she starts acting all bitchy and not letting me feel her up and it just went downhill from there and I pushed her and she starts screaming and I just said Cayate-- and these guy came to the room and she was trying to say I beat her-- and I just laughed called her a Liar ***** and left. Fast forward 10 days I see her and she acts like she wants to fuck and I just laughed. But shit like that has hardly ever happened to me in 9 years.
One thing for sure, guys who do not speak Spanish are at a huge disadvantage. I know-- I only have met and hung out with like 30-50 of them.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=TooCheesy;2551354]Due to the Pico why Cedula, I had to carry my ID everywhere and this chica managed to get my full name and is threatening to report me to cops if I don't pay the extortion. Unfortunately I already brought her back to my place before all the craziness started to show so she knows where I'm at. Any ideas on how to respond?[/QUOTE]Ignore her; The cops won't give two shits about a complain about a curfew break from a puta.
Thanks for letting us know, but I am not finding it on any of the latest Maps or Lists.
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2205-Bogota-Lists[/URL]
[QUOTE=Marrowbone68;2551044]Santa Fe is indeed buzzing. Street walkers all day and night, Troya full by 9 PM, apparently stays open till 3 am which I understand is 3 hours in to the nightly curfew.
Street walkers quoting 40 k for 20 minutes (means 10) and 70 k for 30 minutes (means 20). I've RTFF and get that I should be telling not asking so presumably others are paying less and getting longer times. I was struck by how they all quoted the same, that's new to me. I always find them a disappointing experience, unlike the casas.
Worldtraveller69, Blancos why Negros Rumba bar seems have closed down, changed hands and be something else now.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Kafka;2551444]A lot of depends on the your attitude ofl. If you can make the girl relax and have a good time it treally helps. If she's afraid you're some kind of freak in it and of course what would you expect?
Or if you're not hygienic. Some mongers think these girls are just machines not so +-they're human just like anybody else and if you treat them with respect you'll likely to get a lot back.[/QUOTE]We are talking about 15 to 20 minutes. There is no time for anyone to relax or show what a freak someone is. You take your clothes off, get to fucking, then finish. It seems like the girls think the mongers are the machines if anything.
Yeah well let's put it to let's put it this way. When you go to a McDonalds drive in and order a meal you can either be rude about and they may spit in your drink, or you can be nice and they may give good service it's up to you. I treat a street hooker with the same respect I would treat anybody but I found on Seeking Arrangement...
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2551487]We are talking about 15 to 20 minutes. There is no time for anyone to relax or show what a freak someone is. You take your clothes off, get to fucking, then finish. It seems like the girls think the mongers are the machines if anything.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=TooCheesy;2551354]Due to the Pico why Cedula, I had to carry my ID everywhere and this chica managed to get my full name and is threatening to report me to cops if I don't pay the extortion. Unfortunately I already brought her back to my place before all the craziness started to show so she knows where I'm at. Any ideas on how to respond?[/QUOTE]Don't pay extortion money. She won't report anything because she knows that Police won't trust puta's story. Don't act like you are worried, it will tempt putas for extortion and other bad behavior. Just dump her. In case police give you an inquiry, though 0. 01 percent chance, you just deny everything and / or give a gift to them. Again, this is very unlikely.
[QUOTE=Kafka;2551497]Yeah well let's put it to let's put it this way. When you go to a McDonalds drive in and order a meal you can either be rude about and they may spit in your drink, or you can be nice and they may give good service it's up to you. I treat a street hooker with the same respect I would treat anybody but I found on Seeking Arrangement...[/QUOTE]Yep-- You have to Romance those [blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue]! I always treat the scene like a party-- I am looking for a fun girl that lets me grab her ass and has a good attitude.
You got to talk to them and try to connect a bit.
[QUOTE=TooCheesy;2551354]Due to the Pico why Cedula, I had to carry my ID everywhere and this chica managed to get my full name and is threatening to report me to cops if I don't pay the extortion. Unfortunately I already brought her back to my place before all the craziness started to show so she knows where I'm at. Any ideas on how to respond?[/QUOTE]Why is she threatening you? Does she claim there was no consent or that you were violent or that you didn't pay her? Hard to prove. Is she minor? If so, you can indeed be in big shit. If not, it's just a matter of consent between two adults, no one cares in Colombia about prostitution.
I remember in my very first trip to Colombia, I went to Santa Fe. The taxi stopped just in front of 2 cops. Turned out that one of the cops was a woman. She asked me were I came from and adviced me to take care in the neighborhood. She was obviously trying to flirt with me, and even showed me her gun (remember, I was 15 years younger). She then gave me some description of the Santa Fe scene, listing me the names of the major brothels. Can you believe that, cops that give prostitution tips! When I entered Troya, I suddenly realized she was walking behind me. She laughed at me and said she was escorting me in order to protect me! Imagine visiting a brothel under police escort! Unfortunately, I didn't ask for her phone number. Would have loved to fuck the law! Haha!
[QUOTE=Routard;2551742]Why is she threatening you? Does she claim there was no consent or that you were violent or that you didn't pay her? Is she minor? If so, you can indeed be in big shit. If not, it's just a matter of consent between two adults, no one cares in Colombia about prostitution. I remember in my very first trip in Colombia, I went to Santa Fe. The taxi stopped just in front of 2 cops. Turned out that one of the cops was a woman. She asked me were I came from and adviced me to take care in the neighborhood. She was obviously trying to flirt with me, and even showed me her gun. She then gave me some description of the Santa Fe scene, listing me the names of the major brothels. Can you believe that, cops that give prostitution tips! When I entered Troya, I suddenly realized she was walking behind me. She laughed at me and said she was escorting me in order to protect me! Imagine visiting a brothel under police escort! Unfortunately, I didn't ask for her phone number. Would have loved to fuck the law! Haha![/QUOTE]Thats a hilarious one Routard. Never fuck with the law bro! LOL.
But I agree, I was at a mall in laureles once and was flirting with the security guard, and she was flirting back too. A nice convo while I was having lunch and she was overseeing the food hall I guess.
Never asked for her number, it was my first trip there. But its refreshing the attitudes toward casual relationships and sex there compared to the US.
[QUOTE=Routard;2551742]I remember in my very first trip to Colombia, I went to Santa Fe. The taxi stopped just in front of 2 cops. Turned out that one of the cops was a woman. She asked me were I came from and adviced me to take care in the neighborhood. She was obviously trying to flirt with me, and even showed me her gun (remember, I was 15 years younger). She then gave me some description of the Santa Fe scene, listing me the names of the major brothels. Can you believe that, cops that give prostitution tips! When I entered Troya, I suddenly realized she was walking behind me. She laughed at me and said she was escorting me in order to protect me! Imagine visiting a brothel under police escort! Unfortunately, I didn't ask for her phone number. Would have loved to fuck the law! Haha![/QUOTE]You lucky SOB. I remember being in a strip club in NY asking a dancer about extras. Right on time, in walk two cops (one female) to bust the place for prostitution and I along with other mongers literally ran out of the place.
I have a week for are and are next month and planning to get down to BOG. This will be my first trip here although I have been to Colombia multiple times (mainly Medellin).
I understand the curfew situation, yet to experience one. Hoping that things will normalize by mid May. For a first time monger traversing and exploring Santa Fe during these times, what are the recommendations? Enhanced safety while walking? I am not much of a "hole up in your hotel and do PP, ME, MP other escorts type" guy but do plan to order escorts in the evening / night. Love to explore the city and scene on foot during day time.
I've been checking this Bogota thread every once in a while and it seemed pretty dead. Glad to see the comments flowing again.
My plan was to come to Bogota for a short time and then off to Medellin. I've been here and had a really bad experience but beside that my visit has been good enough that the only reason I'm thinking of Medellin is due to these cold nights in the rentals here.
The street scene is ok to great. I've been both night and day. I pay 30-40 mil for quickies. I've had one chick who is was very gorgeous tell me my time was up, then wanted to stay once I mentioned my plan of coming there as only an introduction to meet women who ID like to see long term and consistently while here. I left anyway. I was probably in the room with her for 15 minutes. I don't think I've ever came in that time frame which is why the streets aren't my favorite. They all seem to have a short time thing but it's not set in stone.
The casas in chapinero, I absolutely love them. Cheap, consistently new women just like the streets, yet you can get your time and moneys worth. One of the best blow jobs I've ever had in my life was a thicker vinnie chick from a chapinero casa. DAMN! She definitely seemed fit to please a king! Got her WhatsApp and contacted her later, and I felt like I was talking to a tax consultant then. "how many polvos?" "How far are you" how many hours do you want?" Maybe I'm passing up on possibly good things, but this is a complete turn off for me. I don't want a strict thorough contract printed up to get an estimate to have you come over to fuck. It just makes me believe the time would be horrible. This is something that's happened with a few casa chicas now. I haven't seen any of them outside the casa.
A different casa in chapinero. I go, not a great selection. I pick the cutest chick available. She was ok with the BJ and had good pussy. Got the WA and it was the wrong number. Damnit! This has happened to me before on accident pressing the wrong buttons. I never remember to check in WhatsApp if the number exists. And she really wanted me to hit her up later. Haven't seen her since. But I liked her so much I went back there to see if she was working haha. Glad I did. I go there and get a beer and just relax. Always tip the bar person and they're always extremely happy. Well, she seemed to have gotten the cutest chica there who was hiding to come out for me. Older chick which I actually like as long as their in shape and don't look like an old woman. Took her to the the little room in there for an hour after about 30 minutes of Google translate. Personality to me is most important. She has that. She of course loves everything about me which I always get with normal women. She responded very well to sex and wanted to kiss all on me (which you can tell she doesn't do normally) I get a 2nd hour with her then leave. I have her come to my place and there are no limits that I've come across yet. I've seen this girl multiple times since and she doesn't even care if I give her money but the bus ride is 1.5 hours and I'm a good guy. Sometimes. She also squirts for me which I enjoy. It happens with most women I see though. Doesn't really matter if you have the biggest the or fuck the best. If a woman likes you, can relax around you and really trusts you, you can get the most out of her. That said this was her first time ever doing so and I can tell by how embarrassed and apologetic she was the first couple times not realizing that men like it. I.
Thanks to her though, I was able to get an actual sim card. She called around and eventually we just activated a plan using her ID at one of the big carriers herw.
Met another Vennie in chapinero that I keep in contact with who comes by all night for 200 mil when I can't get the older Colombian from above.
My Spanish is absolutely horrible but it gets slightly better the more I talk to the women. If I max out my Visa I may be fluent by the time I fly home.
Can Medellin really be better than Bogota? I know the weathers better and I hear the women are less about strict rules, and clock watching. But are there more options and ways to mongering at the price point that Bogota offers?
[QUOTE=TravelingDom;2551820]
Can Medellin really be better than Bogota? I know the weathers better and I hear the women are less about strict rules, and clock watching. But are there more options and ways to mongering at the price point that Bogota offers?[/QUOTE]The answer is no. Medellin is way smaller than Bogota and the monger options are much less in the same proportions. It's just that Medellin is nicer to live, nicer climate, better organized city, more relaxed people. So if you plan to overwinter or retire, Medellin is a better option. If you are just on a short term monger trip, Bogota is a better option.
[QUOTE=TravelingDom;2551820]My plan was to come to Bogota for a short time and then off to Medellin. I've been here and had a really bad experience but beside that my visit has been good enough that the only reason I'm thinking of Medellin is due to these cold nights in the rentals here.[/QUOTE]Last weekend I stayed in a nice hotel. On the website they had a picture of a fireplace in the room. Monday morning I was kind of cold and could not figure out how to turn the fireplace on. My nurse chick called downstairs to ask. They said it runs on oil and will cost 35,000 pesos to use and will last 1 hour. Fuck that.
It is not that it is really cold in Bogota, but the steady cool temperature translates to cold. Like right this minute my city is the exact same temperature as Bogota. In my house it is comfortable without any heat or air conditioning because it was warmer all day plus the house is insulated. In Bogota it is even worse when you are sitting inside of a hotel room for hours. You can not hide from the cold. The room I had last week was encompassed with floor to ceiling glass windows on 3 sides. Besides it being cold, it was hell pulling down all those shades. And I hate getting into a taxi there and the driver has the windows down. They do that same shit in Lima.
[QUOTE=Traveling Dom;2551820]The street scene is ok to great. I've been both night and day. I pay 30-40 mil for quickies. I was probably in the room with her for 15 minutes. I don't think I've ever came in that time frame which is why the streets aren't my favorite.[/QUOTE]So just pay for a longer time than the standard 20 minutes or whatever. Get the 30 minutes or 1 hour price or you can even ask how much for all night.
[QUOTE=Traveling Dom;2551820]Got the WA and it was the wrong number. Damnit! This has happened to me before on accident pressing the wrong buttons. I never remember to check in WhatsApp if the number exists.[/QUOTE]As soon as I get a chick's number I send a message in whatsapp saying from my name and see if she received it. Maybe you do not have internet outside though.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2551903]Last weekend I stayed in a nice hotel. On the website they had a picture of a fireplace in the room. Monday morning I was kind of cold and could not figure out how to turn the fireplace on. My nurse chick called downstairs to ask. They said it runs on oil and will cost 35,000 pesos to use and will last 1 hour. Fuck that.
It is not that it is really cold in Bogota, but the steady cool temperature translates to cold. Like right this minute my city is the exact same temperature as Bogota. In my house it is comfortable without any heat or air conditioning because it was warmer all day plus the house is insulated. In Bogota it is even worse when you are sitting inside of a hotel room for hours. You can not hide from the cold. The room I had last week was encompassed with floor to ceiling glass windows on 3 sides. Besides it being cold, it was hell pulling down all those shades. And I hate getting into a taxi there and the driver has the windows down. They do that same shit in Lima.
So just pay for a longer time than the standard 20 minutes or whatever. Get the 30 minutes or 1 hour price or you can even ask how much for all night.
As soon as I get a chick's number I send a message in whatsapp saying from my name and see if she received it. Maybe you do not have internet outside though.[/QUOTE]Lima can be the worst! I remember I was there, don't remember the time of year but it was cold and damp 24/7. I would hang my towel up after my shower and the damn thing would be just as wet the next morning. Sucked.
Bogota is hit or miss. I always get the same room in the back of my hotel in Chico Norte. It has sun almost all day coming in the window. If it's hot that day I close the shades to keep the sun out. But most times an open window and some filtered sun make for a comfy room. Check and see if your hotel has portable radiators, many do, my hotel will supply them if requested. Its enough to keep the chill out.
[QUOTE=Routard;2551885]The answer is no. Medellin is way smaller than Bogota and the monger options are much less in the same proportions. It's just that Medellin is nicer to live, nicer climate, better organized city, more relaxed people. So if you plan to overwinter or retire, Medellin is a better option. If you are just on a short term monger trip, Bogota is a better option.[/QUOTE]Bogota has about 9 million people and roughly half of them are women, I like those odds. There is safety in numbers. There has been lots of info on Medellin for years, the amount of gringos steadily increasing in Medellin, the so called ethnic cleansing from a few years ago. Too many gringos to be considered anything of a novelty. Bogota has sooo many women everywhere that you can begin to peel away the layers to discover some amazing women, who are more than willing to get to know a gringo for the first time, SF not withstanding. Plus and minuses to both. What ever floats your boat.
[QUOTE=SankarShetty;2551755]I have a week for are and are next month and planning to get down to BOG. This will be my first trip here although I have been to Colombia multiple times (mainly Medellin).
I understand the curfew situation, yet to experience one. Hoping that things will normalize by mid May. For a first time monger traversing and exploring Santa Fe during these times, what are the recommendations? Enhanced safety while walking? I am not much of a "hole up in your hotel and do PP, ME, MP other escorts type" guy but do plan to order escorts in the evening / night. Love to explore the city and scene on foot during day time.[/QUOTE]After many years in Bogota before the virus vs post virus, I have to say ' your no fun anymore' If you've never been, then you won't long for the good old days. For me my 4 trips to Bogota since Oct. 2020 can not compare to pre covid, probably true for all monger spots. But for me the whole covid thing has worn me out. The PCR tests the antigen tests, all my favorite restaurants closed, the constant checking of documents over and over at the airport. At the door of El Dorado, at the check-in counter again at immigration and again at your departure gate. Sorry but for me the fun is gone. I realize some guys here don't want to publish anything negative about mongering in Colombia you all have some vested interest in keeping things going but for me I'll wait for all the nonsense to go away and and let my novia come here to the states until it does go away, if ever!
[QUOTE=LatinaLover#1;2551984]After many years in Bogota before the virus vs post virus, I have to say ' your no fun anymore' If you've never been, then you won't long for the good old days. For me my 4 trips to Bogota since Oct. 2020 can not compare to pre covid, probably true for all monger spots. But for me the whole covid thing has worn me out. The PCR tests the antigen tests, all my favorite restaurants closed, the constant checking of documents over and over at the airport. At the door of El Dorado, at the check-in counter again at immigration and again at your departure gate. Sorry but for me the fun is gone. I realize some guys here don't want to publish anything negative about mongering in Colombia you all have some vested interest in keeping things going but for me I'll wait for all the nonsense to go away and and let my novia come here to the states until it does go away, if ever![/QUOTE]LOL the fun is all gone because people are checking your documents at an airport during a pandemic? Closed restaurants I get, but complaining about starting and ending your trip with two covid tests and a bit of extra hassle in the airport is just not a big deal.
[QUOTE=Rextor;2552000]LOL the fun is all gone because people are checking your documents at an airport during a pandemic? Closed restaurants I get, but complaining about starting and ending your trip with two covid tests and a bit of extra hassle in the airport is just not a big deal.[/QUOTE]I didn't understand the post when I read it either. If those small things are more hassle than the fun you have here, then you must not be having too much fun!
I've only flown in once, but that shit didn't seem to add much if any time at all to my exit of the airport. I'd understand if there were a forced quarantine, but there isn't. I've had no issue with closed restaurants accept maybe just a very few during actual weekend lock downs. But I've also not been here pre covid, so maybe there's a bunch of great restaurants that have never opened back up that I'm unaware of having missed out on.
As far as the cold. It seems most Airbnb don't include heaters at all. But it's not just cold. It gets extremely damp here. Thought of buying dehumidifier on Amazon. I've had some. Powdered sugar left out one day, and it was slush the next morning. I've since purchased little dehumidifier buckets and a heater. It's much more comfortable in my place now. But still slightly wet in the air so I may get an actual dehumidifier also.
Whenever I come to Bogota / Colombia, I bring a portable heater with me. It is very useful, and the girls love it.
Bogota is very windy, as well as cold. I personally love rainy days though.
[QUOTE=LatinaLover#1;2551984]After many years in Bogota before the virus vs post virus, I have to say ' your no fun anymore' If you've never been, then you won't long for the good old days. For me my 4 trips to Bogota since Oct. 2020 can not compare to pre covid, probably true for all monger spots. But for me the whole covid thing has worn me out. The PCR tests the antigen tests, all my favorite restaurants closed, the constant checking of documents over and over at the airport. At the door of El Dorado, at the check-in counter again at immigration and again at your departure gate. Sorry but for me the fun is gone. I realize some guys here don't want to publish anything negative about mongering in Colombia you all have some vested interest in keeping things going but for me I'll wait for all the nonsense to go away and and let my novia come here to the states until it does go away, if ever![/QUOTE]I am okay with complying with the requirements at the airports and temp checks at hotels / clubs, do understand the need for it. I seriously doubt we would return to the good ol days as you put it. I think we all have to learn to live with the 'new normal'.
After RTFF, I have couple of quick questions. Two of the most mentioned 'GF friendly' hotels. San Francisco de Ass and IBIS. Can you walk to from the two hotels or do you still require taxis to go to chapinero and SF street scene? In Medellin, I really hated the traffic from Poblado to Centro everyday.
While I would certainly hit the norte clubs and massage parlors, after reading reviews I think I would primarily be day casa and street scene guy. Considering the multitude of mongering options in BOG, I do not see a need to develop an FB chica list in BOG? Any pointers will be appreciated.
[QUOTE=SankarShetty;2552323]I am okay with complying with the requirements at the airports and temp checks at hotels / clubs, do understand the need for it. I seriously doubt we would return to the good ol days as you put it. I think we all have to learn to live with the 'new normal'.
After RTFF, I have couple of quick questions. Two of the most mentioned 'GF friendly' hotels. San Francisco de Ass and IBIS. Can you walk to from the two hotels or do you still require taxis to go to chapinero and SF street scene? In Medellin, I really hated the traffic from Poblado to Centro everyday.
While I would certainly hit the norte clubs and massage parlors, after reading reviews I think I would primarily be day casa and street scene guy. Considering the multitude of mongering options in BOG, I do not see a need to develop an FB chica list in BOG? Any pointers will be appreciated.[/QUOTE]A lot of guys like Teqendama Suites (Not Teq. Hotel). Chapinero is a good 2-3 miles north you could walk or take Transmilenio which runs through Chapinero There are casa near stops Marly, Calle 57, Calle 63, Flores, Calle 72, Calle 76 or there were-- Stay on Transmilenio to Calle 100 and you can walk to La Meezzanine.
[QUOTE=Woodman09;2552443]A lot of guys like Teqendama Suites (Not Teq. Hotel). Chapinero is a good 2-3 miles north you could walk or take Transmilenio which runs through Chapinero There are casa near stops Marly, Calle 57, Calle 63, Flores, Calle 72, Calle 76 or there were-- Stay on Transmilenio to Calle 100 and you can walk to La Meezzanine.[/QUOTE]Is Teqendama girl friendly. What about staying in Chapinero and walking to Santa Fe. I see a ton of nice airbnbs and hotels in Chapinero. I am assuming these are not GF friendly or is there an upcharge?
[QUOTE=Woodman09;2552443]A lot of guys like Teqendama Suites (Not Teq. Hotel). Chapinero is a good 2-3 miles north you could walk or take Transmilenio which runs through Chapinero There are casa near stops Marly, Calle 57, Calle 63, Flores, Calle 72, Calle 76 or there were-- Stay on Transmilenio to Calle 100 and you can walk to La Meezzanine.[/QUOTE]I won't walk through Bogota at night but is it safe to walk from Chapinero to Santa Fe during the day?
[QUOTE=SilverTurtle;2552062]Whenever I come to Bogota / Colombia, I bring a portable heater with me. It is very useful, and the girls love it.
Bogota is very windy, as well as cold. I personally love rainy days though.[/QUOTE]That's a first, you actually carry with you a portable heater like something that you pick up in the US at a Home Depot, wow, do you leave it in Bogota or cart it back home?
Now that I think of it you are on to something. This is a good idea.
I recall back in 2009 I had a very special girl in Bogota and I would be returning to see her again in a few months and what special gift would she like from LA California when I return, her reply was a heating blanket. Yep it was a hit with her but I did not realize the space a heating blanket takes up when you try to fold it up, all those heating elements are bulky and can be heavy with the whole blanket.
BTW. Fast forward 13 years later to today 2021 and that special ATF favorite rolla in Bogota has been living in Argentina for the past 8 or 9 years and from time to time we say Hi and catch up and no she did not need to take the heating blanket to Argentina but rather has gifted it to her mother who now lives in Fusagasug, Cundinamarca and still enjoying the comforts of it to this day.
The Tall Man.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2552598]I won't walk through Bogota at night but is it safe to walk from Chapinero to Santa Fe during the day?[/QUOTE]It's safe on daytime, but it's a pretty good distance to walk.
[QUOTE=SankarShetty;2552597]Is Teqendama girl friendly. What about staying in Chapinero and walking to Santa Fe. I see a ton of nice airbnbs and hotels in Chapinero. I am assuming these are not GF friendly or is there an upcharge?[/QUOTE]Teqendama Suites is Girl friendly and 5 minutes from SF.
There are great AirBnBs in the Teusaquillo area (same area as Ibis) or look around Calle 19 and Carrera 5 -- that is the Bacata building-- it's a high-rise with Great amenities -- lotta nice places to eat around there -- Good casinos too, and about 10 minute walk to SF.
I just had a great lunch steak at the Bacata Tower Casino for $6.
[URL]http://bacatatowercasino.com/inicio/[/URL]
[QUOTE=SankarShetty;2552323]Two of the most mentioned 'GF friendly' hotels. San Francisco de Ass and IBIS. [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=SankarShetty;2552597]I see a ton of nice airbnbs and hotels in Chapinero. I am assuming these are not GF friendly or is there an upcharge?[/QUOTE]You need to clarify your definition of girl friendly. There are places that will not allow chicks at all, which is of course girl friendly. But then there are places that will only allow chicks at certain hours of the day. There are places that make you pay a fee for chicks. There are places that allow only the chick you register when you check in. There are places that allow unlimited guests with no fee. There are combinations of these.
Hotel San Francisco allows 1 guest then charge a fee for any after that.
[QUOTE=SilverTurtle;2551507]Don't pay extortion money. She won't report anything because she knows that Police won't trust puta's story. Don't act like you are worried, it will tempt putas for extortion and other bad behavior. Just dump her. In case police give you an inquiry, though 0. 01 percent chance, you just deny everything and / or give a gift to them. Again, this is very unlikely.[/QUOTE]Just to update everyone, She did end up calling the police on me for harassment, but I just showed the cops my whatsapp messages from her and stating that I stopped talking to her since last week, she was the one harassing me. Sorry for the late response, I ended up moving to another place since I kept getting random packages sent to my apartment or she would come to my area and stalk me. I ended up cutting my losses on the apartment for the peace of mind.
Funnily enough the cops told me via google translator "Hotels cost 80-120 mil for the night, its a good investment if you want to avoid these situations with a girl you just met".
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2552715]You need to clarify your definition of girl friendly. There are places that will not allow chicks at all, which is of course girl friendly. But then there are places that will only allow chicks at certain hours of the day. There are places that make you pay a fee for chicks. There are places that allow only the chick you register when you check in. There are places that allow unlimited guests with no fee. There are combinations of these.
Hotel San Francisco allows 1 guest then charge a fee for any after that.[/QUOTE]I am sure most mongers here are aware what the term 'girl friendly' hotel means. I meant 'all' of the scenarios. With additional fee, without additional fee, specific hours, more than one, Chica's dressing contributing to the decision etc.
Covid numbers are higher then ever, which makes the autorithies very nervous. Starting today Bogota is on curfew every night between 8 pm and 5 am. All these restrictions keep changing, it is ver confusying even for locals. I will try to sum them up:
National restrictions:
- no nightclubs and events with public.
- masks are mandatory everywhere.
- land borders are closed.
- air ban with Brasil.
- Negative covid test of less than 96 hours to enter Colombia.
Restrictions in Bogota:
- night curfew between 8 pm and 5 am.
- during daytime, you can enter malls and shops depending parity of ID.
- strict restrictions Friday, Saturday and Sunday, only for buying food, medecine or 1 hour sport, no alcohol.
[QUOTE=Routard;2552935]Covid numbers are higher then ever, which makes the autorithies very nervous. Starting today Bogota is on curfew every night between 8 pm and 5 am. All these restrictions keep changing, it is ver confusying even for locals. I will try to sum them up:
National restrictions:
- no nightclubs and events with public.
- masks are mandatory everywhere.
- land borders are closed.
- air ban with Brasil.
- Negative covid test of less than 96 hours to enter Colombia.
Restrictions in Bogota:
- night curfew between 8 pm and 5 am.[/QUOTE]I was trying to see what this lockdown looks like. It sounds like it's just the same as normal curfews and quarantine. You can still move around. Is this correct?
[QUOTE=Routard;2552935]Covid numbers are higher then ever, which makes the autorithies very nervous. Starting today Bogota is on curfew every night between 8 pm and 5 am. All these restrictions keep changing, it is ver confusying even for locals. I will try to sum them up:
National restrictions:
- no nightclubs and events with public.
- masks are mandatory everywhere.
- land borders are closed.
- air ban with Brasil.
- Negative covid test of less than 96 hours to enter Colombia.
Restrictions in Bogota:
- night curfew between 8 pm and 5 am.
- during daytime, you can enter malls and shops depending parity of ID.
- strict restrictions Friday, Saturday and Sunday, only for buying food, medecine or 1 hour sport, no alcohol.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the summary Routard.
Most good models (read UW, JHU etc) predict May 15 to be the date after which ICU resource use will fall under the capacity of available ICU beds. I think planning a trip for late May is the prudent course of action. Fingers crossed. Of course, even now travel is not banned, only curfews and restrictions. But again, things may change.
[QUOTE=TooCheesy;2552831]
Funnily enough the cops told me via google translator "Hotels cost 80-120 mil for the night, its a good investment if you want to avoid these situations with a girl you just met".[/QUOTE]Ecellent advice, I guess they meant the so called love motels. Apart from safety, no girl that goes with you in a love motel can claim there was no consent.
Great learning experience. This experience will save you a lot of time and money in the future.
[QUOTE=TooCheesy;2552831]Just to update everyone, She did end up calling the police on me for harassment, but I just showed the cops my whatsapp messages from her and stating that I stopped talking to her since last week, she was the one harassing me. Sorry for the late response, I ended up moving to another place since I kept getting random packages sent to my apartment or she would come to my area and stalk me. I ended up cutting my losses on the apartment for the peace of mind.
Funnily enough the cops told me via google translator "Hotels cost 80-120 mil for the night, its a good investment if you want to avoid these situations with a girl you just met".[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Kinosellis;2552946]I was trying to see what this lockdown looks like. It sounds like it's just the same as normal curfews and quarantine. You can still move around. Is this correct?[/QUOTE]Night curfew is very strict, only exceptions to be in the street is emergency or from or to the airport with a valid boarding pass. During quarantine on friday saturdayy or sunday, if any control you can always claim you are heading to a pharmacy or a food store. Trouble is that during quarantaine nearly everything is closed, so there is not so much to do outside anyhow. Regarding the punter scene, you will only have day scene from Monday to Thursday such as massage parlours, day brothels and of course internet escort. From Friday to Sunday during the day, you can only rely on internet escort and street action in santa Fe. I do not advice to go out by night during the curfew.
[QUOTE=Kinosellis;2552946]I was trying to see what this lockdown looks like. It sounds like it's just the same as normal curfews and quarantine. You can still move around. Is this correct?[/QUOTE]Move around to what? There is nothing open!
[QUOTE=SankarShetty;2552950]Thanks for the summary Routard.
Most good models (read UW, JHU etc) predict May 15 to be the date after which ICU resource use will fall under the capacity of available ICU beds. I think planning a trip for late May is the prudent course of action. Fingers crossed. Of course, even now travel is not banned, only curfews and restrictions. But again, things may change.[/QUOTE]Lockdown Bogata, Medellin, Cali and Barranquilla. No travel out of for a month, without PCR test negative. These are the main areas of Covid 19 right now.
[QUOTE=SankarShetty;2552323]I am okay with complying with the requirements at the airports and temp checks at hotels / clubs, do understand the need for it. I seriously doubt we would return to the good ol days as you put it. I think we all have to learn to live with the 'new normal'.
After RTFF, I have couple of quick questions. Two of the most mentioned 'GF friendly' hotels. San Francisco de Ass and IBIS. Can you walk to from the two hotels or do you still require taxis to go to chapinero and SF street scene? In Medellin, I really hated the traffic from Poblado to Centro everyday.
While I would certainly hit the norte clubs and massage parlors, after reading reviews I think I would primarily be day casa and street scene guy. Considering the multitude of mongering options in BOG, I do not see a need to develop an FB chica list in BOG? Any pointers will be appreciated.[/QUOTE]My post was not only directed to the red tape bullshit but the total environment in Colombia during the covid era. They started the more strict Quarantine 2 days before I got out of there. When I left, in their typical Colombian logic, they started a 4 and 3 deal, ok to work M,T,W,T-work only these days bla bla bla and a tight F,S,S only critical jobs and why a single supermarket trip depending on you Cedula thing and told not to go out at all. My novias father is a taxi driver and he spent all day and got 1 fare on Saturday, the only people suffering are the working class, which is the vast majority in Bogota. I'm sure Lopez and her wife are living high on the hog in the Mayors mansion. Actually she me be out of town and at a remote beach somewhere, while the less fortunate are starving in Bogota. I repeat, don't go until things get back to a manageable situation. If your a SF guy who could care less about restaurants as long as the chicken restaurant on the corner is still open, and the street working girls are still out, then have it. For me its much easier to vacation here in the states with my girl once a month. Unfortunately, looking over the neighborhood from my 7th floor hotel room in Chico Norte I was able to survey the entire area and all I could see was, once fully occupied offices and businesses to a sea of.
"Disponible en alquiler" signs it almost every window. It wasn't the signs that struck me but the thousands of working class people that still have not found work and are really hurting. Sad, very sad.
What do you use for a cedula if you're asked during pico y cedula?
I have Passport, Global Entry Card, Drivers License. Some have odd, some have even.
I arrived in Bogota from Paris a couple days before the April 9 quarantine started.
The 7 hours CDG-JFK flight felt like a breeze with only 5 passengers on board. The connecting flights from the US to Colombia were packed with returning Colombians.
My last trip to Bogota, Medellin and Cartagena was memorable, I discovered the friendliness of the Colombian people and the endless mongering possibilities.
So I made a mental note to return.
For this trip, I decided to stay a whole month and explore smaller Colombian towns.
Upon landing, I bought a Claro Sim from the airport but couldn't get it to activate. I had to go to Claro Centro Tecnico at the MultiPlaza Mall to have a technician remove the lock on my iPhone.
I checked into my apartment rental in Zona G and after a quick nap and shower, I was ready to hit the Chapinero casas.
Took an Uber to Chicas Milenio.
I'm sad to report but the place is now definitely closed.
From across the street, I saw a guy waiving at me. He opened the door to let me into a casa called Chicas Dos Mil.
Standing out of the line up of 8 chicas in the 6-7 range was a stunning 22 years old Venezuelan beauty, about 1. 65 m tall with large natural see cups, her face reminiscent of Emily Ratajkowski, a 9 in my book.
The price was 70 k for one hour.
After a passionate and unexpected GFE in the bedroom, which included DFK, BBBJ, FS, she offered to come spend the night at my place with a friend of hers for 300 k during lockdown.
The offer sounded very tempting but I only had one double bed at my apartment and couldn't fit 2 girls on the same bed.
Beside, I was getting anxious about the upcoming weekend lockdown and was already making plan to bail out.
That night I had dinner at la Estancia Chica near Parque 93. The Argentinian churrasco is one the best steak I've had in Colombia.
Dinner is in the 150 k range but worth it.
The next morning I took a DiDi to pay a visit to a 22 year old Mileroticos prepagos in Suba.
120 k an hour with huge boobs and cute face.
To my dismay, her face and appearance looked nothing like her Mileroticos ad, she claimed to be Colombian but was in fact Venezuelan.
She had put on an extra 5-10 kg since her pictures were taken and her appearance was neglected. She wore no makeup, her hair was a mess like she had just woken up.
I was already there so I reluctantly handed her the 120 k. In retrospect, I should have paid for a half hour.
She couldn't move easily with all the extra weight she was packing. So she said quatro, stood on her hands and knees and waited until I was done.
Definitely a low, put it down to experience.
To cheer me up I had lunch at Andres Carne de Res on Calle 3. The ambiance was very cheerful, the food was Ok but expect to pay at least 80 k.
In Bogota, with the lockdown in place most mongering options were still open and accessible but it was time for a change of scenery.
On Saturday morning I was on a flight to Bucaramanga.
[QUOTE=GringoTigre;2553044]What do you use for a cedula if you're asked during pico y cedula?
I have Passport, Global Entry Card, Drivers License. Some have odd, some have even.[/QUOTE]Technically, the official document for foreigners should be your passport but who the hell carries a passport. I've been here for a few months and I've been using my driver's license and global entry, and I was only asked for my passport once, and it was at the money exchange. Most guards don't even bother to read your ID before they let you in anyways.
[QUOTE=GringoTigre;2553044]What do you use for a cedula if you're asked during pico y cedula?
I have Passport, Global Entry Card, Drivers License. Some have odd, some have even.[/QUOTE]I was told Passport, everyone knows you need a passport to travel so they want to see that.
[QUOTE=Kafka;2552990]Lockdown Bogata, Medellin, Cali and Barranquilla. No travel out of for a month, without PCR test negative. These are the main areas of Covid 19 right now.[/QUOTE]Just to be clear, is this domestic travel that requires a negative test? If I were to fly Cali to Bogota I would need a negative pcr?
Man, I picked a bad time to spend a month in Colombia soon, but beats american pussy / suburbs anyday jajaj.
Thanks.
Jw.
The President got on TV the other day and said that no more lockdowns would be allowed as of Monday Apr 26, that the mayors need to stop being little punks and let people live their lives.
[QUOTE=Jandara69;2553064]I arrived in Bogota from Paris a couple days before the April 9 quarantine started.
The 7 hours CDG-JFK flight felt like a breeze with only 5 passengers on board. The connecting flights from the US to Colombia were packed with returning Colombians.
My last trip to Bogota, Medellin and Cartagena was memorable, I discovered the friendliness of the Colombian people and the endless mongering possibilities.
So I made a mental note to return.
For this trip, I decided to stay a whole month and explore smaller Colombian towns.
Upon landing, I bought a Claro Sim from the airport but couldn't get it to activate. I had to go to Claro Centro Tecnico at the MultiPlaza Mall to have a technician remove the lock on my iPhone.
I checked into my apartment rental in Zona G and after a quick nap and shower, I was ready to hit the Chapinero casas.
Took an Uber to Chicas Milenio.
I'm sad to report but the place is now definitely closed.
From across the street, I saw a guy waiving at me. He opened the door to let me into a casa called Chicas Dos Mil...[/QUOTE]Great first trip report and your first post to boot, good job and look forward to more.
The Tall Man.
[QUOTE=BangoCheito;2553075]The President got on TV the other day and said that no more lockdowns would be allowed as of Monday Apr 26, that the mayors need to stop being little punks and let people live their lives.[/QUOTE]We'll see how that works out.
No test needed for domestic.
[QUOTE=JohnnyWalker55;2553073]Just to be clear, is this domestic travel that requires a negative test? If I were to fly Cali to Bogota I would need a negative pcr?
Man, I picked a bad time to spend a month in Colombia soon, but beats american pussy / suburbs anyday jajaj.
Thanks.
Jw.[/QUOTE]
Morocas, tontos.
[QUOTE=BangoCheito;2553075]The President got on TV the otoer day and said that no more lockdowns would be allowed as of Monday Apr 26, that the mayors need to stop being little punks and let people live their lives.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=JohnnyWalker55;2553073]Just to be clear, is this domestic travel that requires a negative test? If I were to fly Cali to Bogota I would need a negative pcr?
Man, I picked a bad time to spend a month in Colombia soon, but beats american pussy / suburbs anyday jajaj.
Thanks.
Jw.[/QUOTE]Actually the weekend was very locked down-- You could still find girls in SF but less. Yesterday was Off the Hook! A pussy explosion in Santa Fe-- Not sure what time they locked down. I had another great Pussy excursion though -- It was packed all early evening.
I just Love it so much. Nowadays my work outs have fallen off. So sexercise is my work out now-- That Viagra is good for you too-- They say.
In other SF news-- It looks like Alaska bakery has new management and they got a big shinny expresso machine-- So glad, I have been bitching about no good coffee in Santa Fe for years-- Typical old man complaint.
[QUOTE=JohnClayton;2553087]We'll see how that works out.[/QUOTE]The word is, Brazil has all but eradicated the disease, and with the same attitude.
[QUOTE=Xpartan;2553114]The word is, Brazil has all but eradicated the disease, and with the same attitude.[/QUOTE]Looking good!
[QUOTE=Jandara69;2553064]I arrived in Bogota from Paris a couple days before the April 9 quarantine started.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the trip report during these curfew times! Did you have a chance to visit any clubs or check out street scene in Santa Fe. The cutie looks good.
[QUOTE=JohnClayton;2553120]Looking good![/QUOTE]Certainly is it's trending heavily downward right now in Brazil. Lockdowns don't work in the long term as soon as you ease up on the lockdowns the virus is going to come up unless 75% the population is inoculated. It's just impossible to lock her country down for 2 years or so and then force people to get inoculated because you're not going to happen and if you can't force people to become inoculated then the lockdowns are worthless --except for window dressing as far as keeping the press out of the hospitals
[QUOTE=Kafka;2553205]Certainly is it's trending heavily downward right now in Brazil. Lockdowns don't work in the long term as soon as you ease up on the lockdowns the virus is going to come up unless 75% the population is inoculated. It's just impossible to lock her country down for 2 years or so and then force people to get inoculated because you're not going to happen and if you can't force people to become inoculated then the lockdowns are worthless --except for window dressing as far as keeping the press out of the hospitals[/QUOTE]Just because something doesn't work long term doesn't make it worthless. Now that there are vaccines, we need to buy time. Countries that had a political will to do the right thing have benefited greatly. Australia, New Zealand, Korea, China even, to name the few.
Those that didn't and still don't, can still benefit from some pockets of common sense. The NYC lockdown didn't hurt last year.
Total lockdowns might not be needed, but some forms of crowd control are still necessary.
[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2552600]That's a first, you actually carry with you a portable heater like something that you pick up in the US at a Home Depot, wow, do you leave it in Bogota or cart it back home?
Now that I think of it you are on to something. This is a good idea.
I recall back in 2009 I had a very special girl in Bogota and I would be returning to see her again in a few months and what special gift would she like from LA California when I return, her reply was a heating blanket. Yep it was a hit with her but I did not realize the space a heating blanket takes up when you try to fold it up, all those heating elements are bulky and can be heavy with the whole blanket.
BTW. Fast forward 13 years later to today 2021 and that special ATF favorite rolla in Bogota has been living in Argentina for the past 8 or 9 years and from time to time we say Hi and catch up and no she did not need to take the heating blanket to Argentina but rather has gifted it to her mother who now lives in Fusagasug, Cundinamarca and still enjoying the comforts of it to this day.
The Tall Man.[/QUOTE]I personally use the room hair dryer to warm up the bathroom when I take a shower in Bogota.
Not sure why people are debating the covid as this discussion group is about banging girls in Bogota and if you are sooooo. Afraid of covid WTF would you even consider coming here or banging a hooker.
I personally have lived without much fear mask on chin most of the time-- I had the covid a couple times-- it was not fun-- But it was just some bed rest and down time as it is for 99%+ of those who get it.
Friggen Ridiculous that the world is shut down for the miniscule part of population at risk. A fraction of the Vast amount of cash that covid has cost could have been much better spent for those at risk.
I will not submit to the vax as I don't feel I need and do not want to be like Marvin Hagler (RIP) -- Half the world population+ feels the same way I do. For some reason this makes me feel good.
I know some here may say Marvin Hagler did not die from the vax -- LOL-- he died of 'Natural Causes' just coincidently after taking the vax- OK! Not to mention many other 'winners' of the CovidVax Lotto.
That's it fo now.
Shat. I switched from Medellin to arrive in Bogota May 11 for 2 weeks. Now? Seems unlikely things will be much fun till the end of May or June. Is there a 24 hour bowling alley or pool hall we can hang out in? Fortunately I can cancel my flight and rebook for later on. (for the 3rd time) Turned off my Seeking App and Whatsapp.
Just don't want to deal with this. Better to wait and see. I can come for a month in July. USA / Vegas is wide open, crazy busy. Ideas?
Just want to say Thank you to Mr. International who always shares a wealth of information. Was in and out in an hour, 80,000 pesos.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2550627]I spent time online yesterday looking for a place to take the covid test. Everywhere was closed on Sunday (except for the airport which was full), but I managed to make reservations at 2 different Synlabs because I did not know if I would leave Chapinero and go stay downtown or not. Most places were wither 140,000 or 150,000. I had found one place for 100,000 but whenever I tried to pay online for that place it would give me an error message.
My ex-girlfriend from Cali flew back home last night so I had my nurse come over. I told her that I had to find a place to get a covid test. She told me that Cendiatra was good. No appointment needed. Takes 1 hour. And best of all 80,000 pesos.
This morning at 10:30 she left to go to a meeting. I booked a hotel near Atlantis Mall and called Cabify to take me to the clinic. We passed one and I shouted out. He said chill, you are in good hands. He dropped me off at the address. I went in and told the ladies I needed an antigen test. They said they did not do covid tests there, but gave me a slip of paper with another address. I asked if that was the one I had just passed and she said yes.[/QUOTE]
I am assuming you went here:
[B]Chicas Dos Mil (2021)[/B]
Calle 71 # 14 a-27-33.6 Girls. Prices: __k 20 min. , __k 30 min. , 70 k hour. Tel: _ Hours: 9 am to 9 pm. Closed Sundays.
Chicas Mileno has moved to:
[B]New Chicas Milenio (2019)[/B]
Carrera 14 a bis - # 66-60.10+ Chicas. Prices: 30 k 30 min. , __k hour. Tel: _ Hours: _.
MILLENNIUM GIRLS. RENAISSANCE. NEW PLACE.
"Note by legionary 07 May 2019 21:35.
Hello Colleagues, friends of fornication and lust.
I tell you that yesterday I passed by girls 2000 and I saw that there was a man in front handing out cards, I thought it was the same man from a few months ago advertising the Carrera 17 with Calle 70, but what a surprise that takes me when I see in the card the logo of the legendary Millennium Girls in addition to having the same design and style of the cards they handed out before. That is if the address is different, although fortunately within the area. And this is for those who are interested. Carrera 14 A - # 66-60. " [URL]https://foroprepagoscolombia.com/viewtopic.php?t=7767[/URL].
[QUOTE=Jandara69;2553064]I arrived in Bogota from Paris a couple days before the April 9 quarantine started.
The 7 hours CDG-JFK flight felt like a breeze with only 5 passengers on board. The connecting flights from the US to Colombia were packed with returning Colombians.
My last trip to Bogota, Medellin and Cartagena was memorable, I discovered the friendliness of the Colombian people and the endless mongering possibilities.
So I made a mental note to return.
For this trip, I decided to stay a whole month and explore smaller Colombian towns...[/QUOTE]
If you want to get back to seeing girls, and hopping on planes without all the protocols in place in a normal atmosphere, get the vaccine. The faster the numbers go up of those vaccinated, the faster things return to normal. This thing could've been licked in two months if people just followed simple directions. Don't be like the losers who wear their masks on their chins, they don't know any better. It takes fifteen minutes to walk in, get the shot, and be on your way, no problem. It can only benefit you and this hobby in the long run.
[QUOTE=WorldTravel69;2553462]I am assuming you went here:
[B]Chicas Dos Mil (2021)[/B]
Calle 71 # 14 a-27-33.6 Girls. Prices: __k 20 min. , __k 30 min. , 70 k hour. Tel: _ Hours: 9 am to 9 pm. Closed Sundays.
Chicas Mileno has moved to:
[B]New Chicas Milenio (2019)[/B]
Carrera 14 a bis - # 66-60.10+ Chicas. Prices: 30 k 30 min. , __k hour. Tel: _ Hours: _.
MILLENNIUM GIRLS. RENAISSANCE. NEW PLACE.
"Note by legionary 07 May 2019 21:35.
Hello Colleagues, friends of fornication and lust..[/QUOTE]Yes, I had no idea the place had moved, I went to the old Chicas Millenio address at CL. 71 #14 A-24.
[QUOTE=SankarShetty;2553166]Thanks for the trip report during these curfew times! Did you have a chance to visit any clubs or check out street scene in Santa Fe. The cutie looks good.[/QUOTE]Glad you enjoyed that report. I got a quick look at the Santa Fe street walker scene peeking at the window of my Uber on my way to El Centro. Not much action on a Friday afternoon, few groups of girls here and there.
I prefer not to rush things, and two shots over the course of an hour feels right to me. The normal session in Santa Fe is 15 min or 20 min, it would just be too short, I dread that knock on the door.
If I was to extend the session to one hour the price difference would then be minimal compared to a casa girl.
As a tourist on a quick trip to Colombia, I would gladly pay the extra 20 k for not having to watch my back and avoid the risks associated with a freelancer.
But if I'd spend months at a time in Bogota or Medellin, that would be another story, I would seriously consider it.
[QUOTE=Woodman09;2553329]Not sure why people are debating the covid as this discussion group is about banging girls in Bogota and if you are sooooo. Afraid of covid WTF would you even consider coming here or banging a hooker.
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I will not submit to the vax as I don't feel I need and do not want to be like Marvin Hagler (RIP) -- Half the world population+ feels the same way I do. For some reason this makes me feel good.
[/QUOTE]Woodman, it's s a slippery slope. Someone says something, then someone else feels compelled to reply, just like me and then you. And voila, a new off-topic thread is born.
But you're right about one thing. It doesn't matter how deeply I disagree with you on this matter -- I do indeed come here largely to enjoy your reports and observations. So, duly noted, LOL.
[QUOTE=IronQuinn;2553466]If you want to get back to seeing girls, and hopping on planes without all the protocols in place in a normal atmosphere, get the vaccine. The faster the numbers go up of those vaccinated, the faster things return to normal. This thing could've been licked in two months if people just followed simple directions. Don't be like the losers who wear their masks on their chins, they don't know any better. It takes fifteen minutes to walk in, get the shot, and be on your way, no problem. It can only benefit you and this hobby in the long run.[/QUOTE]Nobody wants things to return to normal in Colombia more than me. I can't count how many times I've been to Colombia, I have filled up 3 passports with international stamps. I've been to Colombia 4 times since they opened the airport and it was nothing like before. I wash my hands, wear my mask, I even got my 2 Pfizer shots in February. The death toll in the USA has stayed about the same for 2018,2019 and 2020 so where's the crisis? Dude you must be brain dead to think things will get back to normal in Colombia or the USA for that matter in 2 months. The reason it won't is because the powers that be, DON'T WANT IT TO GO BACK! Open your eyes and get used to it. There is no reason for this shit. I look at the flight attendants wearing there red gowns, like haz mat suits, same goes for many places in Bogota, the airport personnel look like their in the movie Species. Jjaj And what exactly is that supposed to do?? Nothing but to give you the feeling that your in deep shit when its 90% show. I have a stable of very hot, non pro, mommies, students in Bogota that I could get to see because of all the restrictions and curfew's and cedulas and BULLSHIT as I watch my friends beautiful hotel in Chico Norte slowly going broke and why? Because of a created crisis to control us and keep us from resuming our lives.
Let's at it's 65% show.
[QUOTE=LatinaLover#1;2553688]Nobody wants things to return to normal in Colombia more than me. I can't count how many times I've been to Colombia, I have filled up 3 passports with international stamps. I've been to Colombia 4 times since they opened the airport and it was nothing like before. I wash my hands, wear my mask, I even got my 2 Pfizer shots in February. The death toll in the USA has stayed about the same for 2018,2019 and 2020 so where's the crisis? Dude you must be brain dead to think things will get back to normal in Colombia or the USA for that matter in 2 months. The reason it won't is because the powers that be, DON'T WANT IT TO GO BACK! Open your eyes and get used to it. There is no reason for this shit. I look at the flight attendants wearing there red gowns, like haz mat suits, same goes for many places in Bogota, the airport personnel look like their in the movie Species. Jjaj And what exactly is that supposed to do?? Nothing but to give you the feeling that your in deep shit when its 90% show. I have a stable of very hot, non pro, mommies, students in Bogota that I could get to see because of all the restrictions and curfew's and cedulas and BULLSHIT as I watch my friends beautiful hotel in Chico Norte slowly going broke and why? Because of a created crisis to control us and keep us from resuming our lives.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Kafka;2553709]Let's at it's 65% show.[/QUOTE]JaJa maybe but you get my point. I just hope we can get back to this hobby as it once was but I have my doubts.
[QUOTE=LatinaLover#1;2553688]Nobody wants things to return to normal in Colombia more than me. I can't count how many times I've been to Colombia, I have filled up 3 passports with international stamps. I've been to Colombia 4 times since they opened the airport and it was nothing like before. I wash my hands, wear my mask, I even got my 2 Pfizer shots in February. The death toll in the USA has stayed about the same for 2018,2019 and 2020 so where's the crisis? Dude you must be brain dead to think things will get back to normal in Colombia or the USA for that matter in 2 months. The reason it won't is because the powers that be, DON'T WANT IT TO GO BACK! Open your eyes and get used to it. There is no reason for this shit. I look at the flight attendants wearing there red gowns, like haz mat suits, same goes for many places in Bogota, the airport personnel look like their in the movie Species. Jjaj And what exactly is that supposed to do?? Nothing but to give you the feeling that your in deep shit when its 90% show. I have a stable of very hot, non pro, mommies, students in Bogota that I could get to see because of all the restrictions and curfew's and cedulas and BULLSHIT as I watch my friends beautiful hotel in Chico Norte slowly going broke and why? Because of a created crisis to control us and keep us from resuming our lives.[/QUOTE]By two months, I meant in the beginning before things got out of hand. The problem is that people are people, it's the human element. By asking people to simply wear a mask they somehow think it infringes on their rights. Now, if I had come down with the virus, chances are I'd be sick for a while and get over it, like most folks. But, it's the others that you have to think about, the weakest links in the chain. However, that's something most people don't think of. It's common with people to say, "I got mine, to hell with the other guy. " Sure there may be some show in all of this, although you might have differing opinions with the working class in India and Brazil.
To keep things related to Bogota, things won't return to normal until people do their part. Right now it's PCR tests, masks, and mandates. Not only are they a hassle, but the cost of those tests can add up. That's money that could be better spent on another hotel room, another meal, or another beauty. If given the choice, how many people on this board would rather have a few hours with three beauties, or spent that money on a test to prove you were negative in the first place? That's the game we have to play if this thing is downplayed and not taken seriously. It might be overreacting by the powers that be, but that's the reality. Remember when you were a kid, and you said to your dad, "But, that's not fair" ? And, he responded with, "No, but that's the way it is. " I'm jumping through the hoops right now just like everybody else is for my own trips. That's what it is today; who knows what it'll be tomorrow.
Went out last night (mask on chin) -- Early evening was fantastic as it has been-- Had a great quickee with a Super cute 19 year old, BBBJ and let me pull her hair and treat her brusquito-- She loved it.
Round 2 about 8 pm I was with this really hot flaquita and was having a good session when the police bus parked outside our window and started the sirens blaring for like 10 minutes-- LOL --that was different.
All the store were shutting down but the girls were still out for a while.
I will probably go bone 2 more for lunch. I Love Bogota!
Yes, portable heater, body brush, soaps, bluetooth speakers, etc. Come and go with me.
[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2552600]That's a first, you actually carry with you a portable heater like something that you pick up in the US at a Home Depot, wow, do you leave it in Bogota or cart it back home?
Now that I think of it you are on to something. This is a good idea.
I recall back in 2009 I had a very special girl in Bogota and I would be returning to see her again in a few months and what special gift would she like from LA California when I return, her reply was a heating blanket. Yep it was a hit with her but I did not realize the space a heating blanket takes up when you try to fold it up, all those heating elements are bulky and can be heavy with the whole blanket.
BTW. Fast forward 13 years later to today 2021 and that special ATF favorite rolla in Bogota has been living in Argentina for the past 8 or 9 years and from time to time we say Hi and catch up and no she did not need to take the heating blanket to Argentina but rather has gifted it to her mother who now lives in Fusagasug, Cundinamarca and still enjoying the comforts of it to this day.
The Tall Man.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=LatinaLover#1;2553688]Nobody wants things to return to normal in Colombia more than me. I can't count how many times I've been to Colombia, I have filled up 3 passports with international stamps. I've been to Colombia 4 times since they opened the airport and it was nothing like before. I wash my hands, wear my mask, I even got my 2 Pfizer shots in February. The death toll in the USA has stayed about the same for 2018,2019 and 2020 so where's the crisis? Dude you must be brain dead to think things will get back to normal in Colombia or the USA for that matter in 2 months. The reason it won't is because the powers that be, DON'T WANT IT TO GO BACK! Open your eyes and get used to it. There is no reason for this shit. I look at the flight attendants wearing there red gowns, like haz mat suits, same goes for many places in Bogota, the airport personnel look like their in the movie Species. Jjaj And what exactly is that supposed to do?? Nothing but to give you the feeling that your in deep shit when its 90% show. I have a stable of very hot, non pro, mommies, students in Bogota that I could get to see because of all the restrictions and curfew's and cedulas and BULLSHIT as I watch my friends beautiful hotel in Chico Norte slowly going broke and why? Because of a created crisis to control us and keep us from resuming our lives.[/QUOTE]Great Post. I have been telling my friends the same thing. Many do not want things to go back normal. It is so sad to see the damage that is being done to the world's economy and for what. The crisis should have never gotten to you this point. Far more lives will be lost from being financially ruined then the virus. This will go down as one of the worst handle crisis ever. So sad.
So just on Pussy Tear-- Lotta viagra-- I even have been smoking it crushed mixed with weed. That Hits you Quick!
Friday-Sunday everything has more restrictions -- So a lot less traffic-- But tons of girls-- THe hotels must be paying off.
Made it out about 3;30 or so-- Lotsa girls on the South stroll, I checked out the area was tempted to stop but I continued north the other area Walked the whole block and had afew in mind when I ran into #1 from last night and I guess that is who I was liking for. She does it for me-- BBBJ let's me gag her than treat her like a hot ****-- Let's me get my serial killer fantasies out -- LOL.
We smoked some weed and I gave her the joint as it's her 20th birthday tomorrow. I walked home got another J and made my way back to bang another hot ****. I ran into this Colombiana MILF with big Natural DD size boobs-- It was excellent and I have a new GF! I will be banging her again.
Went to the bakery to chill over a nice coffee and rice pudding. Decided I was not done banging and went over and got this Super cute skinny girl, Naomi. She just arrived a week ago, Banged her hard. She is another New GF!! LOL.
I went back to the bakery and had some chicken soup and bread-- As I was leaving at Twilight the police were starting their siren blasting and everything has to close.
I Love Bogota.
[QUOTE=Woodman09;2553752]Went out last night (mask on chin)[/QUOTE]Thanks for proving my point. I'd tell you what I'm getting-for free-but it's outside of Bogota, and I don't brag. Next time I come through Santa Fe, we should meet up. It'll be memorable.
The powers that be don't want pictures or video of temporary morgues, or people in hospital hallways. This is all about controlling the visuals.
[QUOTE=IronQuinn;2553735]By two months, I meant in the beginning before things got out of hand. The problem is that people are people, it's the human element. By asking people to simply wear a mask they somehow think it infringes on their rights. Now, if I had come down with the virus, chances are I'd be sick for a while and get over it, like most folks. But, it's the others that you have to think about, the weakest links in the chain. However, that's something most people don't think of. It's common with people to say, "I got mine, to hell with the other guy. " Sure there may be some show in all of this, although you might have differing opinions with the working class in India and Brazil.
To keep things related to Bogota, things won't return to normal until people do their part. Right now it's PCR tests, masks, and mandates. Not only are they a hassle, but the cost of those tests can add up. That's money that could be better spent on another hotel room, another meal, or another beauty. If given the choice, how many people on this board would rather have a few hours with three beauties, or spent that money on a test to prove you were negative in the first place? That's the game we have to play if this thing is downplayed and not taken seriously. It might be overreacting by the powers that be, but that's the reality. Remember when you were a kid, and you said to your dad, "But, that's not fair" ? And, he responded with, "No, but that's the way it is. " I'm jumping through the hoops right now just like everybody else is for my own trips. That's what it is today; who knows what it'll be tomorrow.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Woodman09;2553832]So just on Pussy Tear-- Lotta viagra-- I even have been smoking it crushed mixed with weed. That Hits you Quick!
Friday-Sunday everything has more restrictions -- So a lot less traffic-- But tons of girls-- THe hotels must be paying off.[/QUOTE]So I'm a little surprised. Santa Fe is open despite the 24 hour quarantine? No problems from the Police? How does one get there from other parts of the city without getting pulled over by the police?
Thanks W.
[QUOTE=Cm6363;2553861]So I'm a little surprised. Santa Fe is open despite the 24 hour quarantine? No problems from the Police? How does one get there from other parts of the city without getting pulled over by the police?
Thanks W.[/QUOTE]Great posts as usual woodman, everybody has their own M. O With covid people forget this is a forum for banging chicks ahha.
Ill be flying domestic and staying in Santa fe for 3 x weeks next month, only worry is getting fined by police walking for SW during total lockdown Fri- Sunday LOL. Troya here I come.
[QUOTE=Cm6363;2553861]So I'm a little surprised. Santa Fe is open despite the 24 hour quarantine? No problems from the Police? How does one get there from other parts of the city without getting pulled over by the police?
Thanks W.[/QUOTE]There are restrictions in Bogota, During weekends you are supposed to stay home accept to get supplies and exercise for an hour. A lot of people do stay home so things are slower.
In Santa Fe many of the girls live in the upper floors of the hotels or in the area-- They are not supposed to be on street but police are allowing it-- Obviously the hotels are paying off-- there are police in the street and guys come in unmolested. I was there for 2+ hours today, walking the strolls flirting with girls-- less today than last night, I would say at east 100+ girls total for both areas. Plenty of hot chicas for me. In the past they would roust girls chasing them off one corner and they would just go to another corner-- have not seen that happening at all.
Actually when I got there today there was an old guy singing with his electronic back-up and he was quite entertaining-- al the girls were laughing at his comedy music routine.
Police not really stopping anyone.
-If you are coming from anywhere the police are not bothering many people, They had a roadblock on Cr 15 but were only stopping a few cars looked like they were looking for vehicle violations-- I hear in Medellin they will stop gringos in cabs and search them-- one guy I know had a bunch of 2 c or coke and ended up paying like 500 mil.
ON Monday the strict restrictions are over until Friday-- Mondays are off the Hook.
The Pussy Economy Continues, Of course this could all change suddenly I suppose-.
[QUOTE=JohnnyWalker55;2553863]Great posts as usual woodman, everybody has their own M. O With covid people forget this is a forum for banging chicks ahha.
Ill be flying domestic and staying in Santa fe for 3 x weeks next month, only worry is getting fined by police walking for SW during total lockdown fri- sunday LOL. Troya here I come.[/QUOTE]If nothing changes you should be fine. Clubs were open all week-- not sure about weekends-.
[URL]https://youtu.be/etqhyARM9l0[/URL]
Can't wait to go one day.
Must watch.
[QUOTE=SyphonFilter;2554066][URL]https://youtu.be/etqhyARM9l0[/URL]
Can't wait to go one day.
Must watch.[/QUOTE]Had I made that walk I think I would have chosen the girl in the white top at 7:47.
[QUOTE=SyphonFilter;2554066][URL]https://youtu.be/etqhyARM9l0[/URL]
Can't wait to go one day.
Must watch.[/QUOTE]That's my GF at 3:24 in leopard print-- I forgot her name.
[QUOTE=SyphonFilter;2554066][URL]https://youtu.be/etqhyARM9l0[/URL]
Can't wait to go one day.
Must watch.[/QUOTE]Actually went last night to get some grub at the bakery. Ended up doing a quickie with this new girl who put me in a Jiu-Jitsu full guard.
There was very little traffic but just as many girls as in the video-- I Love Santa Fe!!
Hi everyone,
Where would the best place to look for hotel recommendations. Thanks.
[QUOTE=Cm6363;2553861]So I'm a little surprised. Santa Fe is open despite the 24 hour quarantine? No problems from the Police? How does one get there from other parts of the city without getting pulled over by the police?
Thanks W.[/QUOTE]The guy makes money / living by promoting Santa Fe and providing a tour guide in the area. Get information from non-biased sources.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2554225]Had I made that walk I think I would have chosen the girl in the white top at 7:47.[/QUOTE]You must be my brother from another mother as she caught my eye too when I watched the whole 8 plus minute video early this morning. Love her girl next door looks and how she dresses like a civie.
The Tall Man.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2554225]Had I made that walk I think I would have chosen the girl in the white top at 7:47.[/QUOTE]Actually, that is my other GF.
[QUOTE=Woodman09;2554399]Actually, that is my other GF.[/QUOTE]Woodman even hot chica in Santa Fe is your girlfriend. LOL.
So what is her performance like.
Things are getting more restrictive by the day and extended untiul May 9th.
Lopez issued this statement yesterday.
What are the measures that will govern the city?
The gradual return to presence in public and private gardens, colleges and universities is suspended until May 9.
Dry Law is decreed every day until May 9, only home sales are allowed.
The curfew is maintained from 8:00 pm.
All establishments, essential and non-essential commerce, must close at 7:00 pm in order to comply with the curfew from 8:00 pm.
The 4 x3 model that has been operating in the city is maintained, with a general quarantine from Thursday at midnight until Monday at 4:00 am.
The peak and cedula are kept.
The mayor recalled that any type of marches or crowds are prohibited. "No type of agglomeration is allowed (.) There are many ways to protest, the organizers may well make virtual sit-ins, cacerolazos, but the marches or agglomerations are at this moment an attempt on life," he said.
Also I read recently that some 900 people have been arrested and jailed for violating the curfew and quarantine directives in Bogota.
Look, we all want the same thing, the freedom to enjoy our hobby. However it's not the best time to travel. It's possible to hit the streets against the decree and get away with it but you just may be the one they decide to make an example of, in my opinion it's best to wait it out another month and hope things get a little less restrictive.
[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2554282]You must be my brother from another mother as she caught my eye too when I watched the whole 8 plus minute video early this morning. Love her girl next door looks and how she dresses like a civie.
The Tall Man.[/QUOTE]There's something about her that promises a gfe hassle free session worthy of repeats. I wish Woodman would say something about his experience with her.
[QUOTE=LatinaLover#1;2554469]Look, we all want the same thing, the freedom to enjoy our hobby. However it's not the best time to travel. It's possible to hit the streets against the decree and get away with it but you just may be the one they decide to make an example of, in my opinion it's best to wait it out another month and hope things get a little less restrictive.[/QUOTE]LL,
I agree with you, but Colombia has been hit by the Brazilian variant, and I doubt it is going to just be another month. They are way behind on vaccination and have a long way to go for herd immunity.
I took two of my favorite Colombian women out to Cancun. Wingo Airlines has good fares, but they have been hit by a computer virus and their website is down. There is an airline service called Radixx that has been hit and Wingo and 20 other airlines have been hit.
Only thing that may change things is a review of what really works and what does not with the virus. I was surprised to see Bill Maher, a liberal, speak the truth and have been seeing a lot more people doing likewise: [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qp3gy_CLXho[/URL].
Unfortunately, there are still politics involved with the virus.
[QUOTE=GeneHickman;2554459]Woodman even hot chica in Santa Fe is your girlfriend. LOL.
So what is her performance like.[/QUOTE]LOL, I was just Funning ya. But // I do have GFs like that. Many girls like her in Santa Fe.
The protest this Wednesday in Bogota is shaping up to be serious. The word is that it will affect most of the sectors of Bogota. The new tax law is going to make it extremely difficult, if not impossible for the working class to survive and they are really pissed off now, so expect the worst. Taxis, food deliveries, ect will all be disrupted and may inger on for a few days so be prepared.
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2554512]LL,
I agree with you, but Colombia has been hit by the Brazilian variant, and I doubt it is going to just be another month. They are way behind on vaccination and have a long way to go for herd immunity.
I took two of my favorite Colombian women out to Cancun. Wingo Airlines has good fares, but they have been hit by a computer virus and their website is down. There is an airline service called Radixx that has been hit and Wingo and 20 other airlines have been hit.
Only thing that may change things is a review of what really works and what does not with the virus. I was surprised to see Bill Maher, a liberal, speak the truth and have been seeing a lot more people doing likewise: [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qp3gy_CLXho[/URL].
Unfortunately, there are still politics involved with the virus.[/QUOTE]I haven't heard you say "I told them so", but god knows you tried!
I don't want my science from politicians, any politicians.
That's like going to a car salesman or atty for moral guidance.
Nor do I want exercise advice from a politicians overweight out-of-shape husband jaja.
First time to Colombia at beginning of April, only a few days. Was planning to MDE, but changed to Bogota due to the curfew at MDE. Got a lot info from the forum prior to my trip, just want to contribute my 1st report on the forum.
Zero Spanish, can only speak "hola", "gracias".
Santa Fe SWs, took the Woodman tour at night. Totally worth it, Woodman showed me street scenes and a few clubs. He helped me to negotiate a my type girl, 40 k for quikie, no BBBJ or kiss. Came back next during day time, still plenty different types of choices for SWs.
The Mezzanine, went there noon time, 3 doors open, quoting from 90 k to 150 k an hour. Choose a nice looking girl for 150 k, service is good, while still no BBBJ or kiss. The environment is not my type though, room is tiny with a bed can only fit one person, and other girls just right out side the room chatting.
Checked a few Chapinero day brothels another day around noon time, only Chicas Dos Mil is open, 4-5 girls each, did not find anyone I like. So took uber to Abejitas Massage, 55 k massage only, 160 k full service. Quality of girls a little lower than Mezzanine, but room is better, with decent space and better bed. No BBBJ, light kiss.
LIDO club, went there on a weekday night, no cover fee, while beer and cocktail range from 50 k to 80 k. 30-40 girls, a lot of 7 or 8's on my scale. Only 4-5 tables of dudes. Chatted with a model like girl for about 1.5 hrs, only through typing on google translate. Negotiate all night till 8 am from 700 k to 600 k. Did not negotiate further as during the chat, really felt clicked, very friendly and not pushing. In my room, she provided true GFE, BBBJ, DFK, multiple pops. There is a 250 k club exit fee though. So total damage is 850 k (230 usd) for 8 hrs. My favorite session this trip.
Overall, due to my limit time, prioritized experience over cost. Would definitely return next time, and will try to optimize cost a bit. And also, fantasy on Medellin for a while, and planned to check it out this time. Reading from the forum, it seems that it might be a little cheaper to find GFE there with model like girls, as Medellin might be a more relaxed. Too bad the curfew situation conflicts with my schedule this time. Hoping to return to Colombia soon, and will start taking on Spanish.
[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2554630]I haven't heard you say "I told them so", but god knows you tried!
Nor do I want exercise advice from a politicians overweight out-of-shape husband jaja.[/QUOTE]And all these guys here keep saying things will be better. When I was in Colombia, they were running 10,000 to 12,000 new cases a day and locking down. Now every time I look, I see 17,000 a day. It is not going to get better, not until they vaccinate the crap out of people and stop with locking people up inside.
Finally, finally, the CDC is out telling the truth. Transmission is one in 10,000 from surfaces, and I am not sure I even buy that number. That even seems too high. Now today they admit they are very few cases spread from being outside, and you do not need to wear masks outside. Finally!
So now we know, forcing people to stay inside is insanity, but that is what the CDC said in the past, and Colombia has not got the new message.
After 3 months in Bogota, I'm finally leaving next week, anybody recommend a place for Covid tests?
There's also this online shopping app called Rappi and I've seen them advertise covid tests administered at home with a result within 48 hours for 270 mil. Has anybody tried it yet?
[QUOTE=ITraveller;2554840] just want to contribute my 1st report on the forum.
[/QUOTE]Great first report ITraveler. Even if it was a short trip, you could manage to check out the different options in Bogota: Santa Fe, Chapinero day brothels, massage parlors and high end northern clubs. Looks as if the northern high end clubs scene fits to you. Some prefer Santa Fe, and as for me, my prefered scene are the day brothels of Chapinero. That's why it is important to check it out by yourself, we are all different with different background, experiences, expectatives and tastes. Keep reporting.
[QUOTE=ProneToBone;2554244]Hi everyone,
Where would the best place to look for hotel recommendations. Thanks.[/QUOTE]On what area you want to stay at. Bogota, in the past, has a lot of traffic. Somewhat less during covid. For example, if your a S. F. Guy its more centrally located so a little to the north or south would be ok. But if you want to hit the north area and your hotel is in the south it can take 2 hours to get to you destination. For the last 9 years I always stay at a Chico Norte hotel that's very clean and safe. If your interested in a chica friendly place, near Parque 93 shoot me a pm.
Does anyone have the name for a good dermatologist for some procedures? Reasonable prices would be nice?
Prp for hair loss, botox and fillers for the face?
If you know of any competent dds as well please list them also (reasonable prices are imperative).
Feel free to pm your name if you want me to tell them you sent me for some brownie points with them for you jajaja.
[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2555093]Does anyone have the name for a good dermatologist for some procedures? Reasonable prices would be nice?
Prp for hair loss, botox and fillers for the face?
If you know of any competent dds as well please list them also (reasonable prices are imperative).
Feel free to pm your name if you want me to tell them you sent me for some brownie points with them for you jajaja.[/QUOTE]Camilo Novoa Bolivar is a great dentist / oral surgeon. He does a lot of implants and has a clinic on Calle 125 near the Carulla.
He has several dentists that work in his clinic they do other work-- Dr Camilo is also a professor at Javeriana University.
I have had quite a bit of work there-- he is a great person and excellent dentist.
Cr 20 No. 125 - 38 Cons 101, Bogotá.
[URL]https://www.nexdu.com/co/bogota-dc-dc/empresa/dr-camilo-novoa-bolivar-coe-483260[/URL]
[QUOTE=ITraveller;2554840]First time to Colombia at beginning of April, only a few days. Was planning to MDE, but changed to Bogota due to the curfew at MDE. Got a lot info from the forum prior to my trip, just want to contribute my 1st report on the forum.
[/QUOTE]Nice update on a first report. Seems like you did your homework and sampled accordingly.
[QUOTE=Woodman09;2555173]Camilo Novoa Bolivar is a great dentist / oral surgeon. He does a lot of implants and has a clinic on Calle 125 near the Carulla.
[URL]https://www.nexdu.com/co/bogota-dc-dc/empresa/dr-camilo-novoa-bolivar-coe-483260[/URL][/QUOTE]I think the dude is looking for a skin doctor, not a tooth doctor.
[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2555093]Does anyone have the name for a good dermatologist for some procedures? Reasonable prices would be nice?
Prp for hair loss, botox and fillers for the face?
If you know of any competent dds as well please list them also (reasonable prices are imperative).
Feel free to pm your name if you want me to tell them you sent me for some brownie points with them for you jajaja.[/QUOTE]Look up Dr. Escobar in Bogota near Clinica de Santa Fe (Santa Anna Medical Center) in El Chapinero.
A lot going on in Bogota lately, Pepperspray Days, lockdowns.
I'm just glad the cops stopped the anarchists from burning the bus they destroyed in front of my building. They also pulled up a bunch of bricks from the median divider and were braking those up for ammo.
Just was out and I saw they busted a bunch of upper floor windows at the Attorney General's office and busted a bunch of traffic lights. Not sure what that gets the people?
Most of the street battles were yesterday MayDay, running battles here in downtown. I guess the rainy season has come late this year, could have been worse-- The rain has been pretty heavy heavy and everyday so that helps.
I went through Santa Fe today and there were girls -- not as many, I would say at least 50 in both area-- I banged this 2 of my Venezuelan GFs-- had a good time. Tomorrow night should be in full swing.
[QUOTE=Woodman09;2556192]A lot going on in Bogota lately, Pepperspray Days, lockdowns.
I'm just glad the cops stopped the anarchists from burning the bus they destroyed in front of my building. They also pulled up a bunch of bricks from the median divider and were braking those up for ammo.
Just was out and I saw they busted a bunch of upper floor windows at the Attorney General's office and busted a bunch of traffic lights. Not sure what that gets the people?
Most of the street battles were yesterday MayDay, running battles here in downtown. I guess the rainy season has come late this year, could have been worse-- The rain has been pretty heavy heavy and everyday so that helps.
I went through Santa Fe today and there were girls -- not as many, I would say at least 50 in both area-- I banged this 2 of my Venezuelan GFs-- had a good time. Tomorrow night should be in full swing.[/QUOTE]Sweet!
And the riots and protests have just about destroyed the little confidence in the Colombian financial standings so the US Dollar is headed north, love it!
I should have my vaccine jab next week, the first one, and can't wait to visit SF with you again Woodman.
Keep the on the ground reports coming as it provides good useful info.
The Tall Man.
[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2556280]Sweet!
And the riots and protests have just about destroyed the little confidence in the Colombian financial standings so the US Dollar is headed north, love it!
I should have my vaccine jab next week, the first one, and can't wait to visit SF with you again Woodman.
Keep the on the ground reports coming as it provides good useful info.
The Tall Man.[/QUOTE]Be careful what you wish for. I know further deterioration in the COP makes our hobby cheaper, but if this devolves into complete social breakdown, do you really want to live there?
[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2556280]...so the US Dollar is headed north, love it!...[/QUOTE]Only down 2% so far. I've said it many times before that we are lucky in the US (currently) to be able to borrow an infinite amount of money and not have to pay for it!
[QUOTE=JohnClayton;2556308]Only down 2% so far. I've said it many times before that we are lucky in the US (currently) to be able to borrow an infinite amount of money and not have to pay for it![/QUOTE]We pay for it via our military. I get so tired of hearing that those who blew things up and kill others are doing so for our freedom. What the military does, and the soldiers are figuring it out now, is fight for the value of the American dollar.
[QUOTE=JohnClayton;2556308]Only down 2% so far. I've said it many times before that we are lucky in the US (currently) to be able to borrow an infinite amount of money and not have to pay for it![/QUOTE]For now. At some point things will change and likely dramatically. Reserve currency status is not permanent.
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2556311]We pay for it via our military. I get so tired of hearing that those who blew things up and kill others are doing so for our freedom. What the military does, and the soldiers are figuring it out now, is fight for the value of the American dollar.[/QUOTE]They most certainly do fight for our freedom.
Economic freedom.
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2556311]What the military does, and the soldiers are figuring it out now, is fight for the value of the American dollar.[/QUOTE]I thought American Military fought to maintain global order and to assert America's status as global police. Do you have any books which show how military helps maintains USD as reserve currency?
[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2556280]Sweet!
And the riots and protests have just about destroyed the little confidence in the Colombian financial standings so the US Dollar is headed north, love it!
I should have my vaccine jab next week, the first one, and can't wait to visit SF with you again Woodman.
Keep the on the ground reports coming as it provides good useful info.
The Tall Man.[/QUOTE]I'll be heading there this weekend and it looks like I picked the right time. They will be ending the 4:3 quarantine this weekend and we just hit 3800 pesos to the dollar. The government is claiming the virus situation is improving but really it just looks like they are scared that thee riots / protests will turn against them and so have been forced to reduce restrictions. Hopefully things will continue in this direction.
[QUOTE=Combo;2556304]Be careful what you wish for. I know further deterioration in the COP makes our hobby cheaper, but if this devolves into complete social breakdown, do you really want to live there?[/QUOTE]Stronger $ is good for us but we don't want our turf to turn into another Afghanistan.
[QUOTE=DandyMan51;2556468]I'll be heading there this weekend and it looks like I picked the right time. They will be ending the 4:3 quarantine this weekend and we just hit 3800 pesos to the dollar. The government is claiming the virus situation is improving but really it just looks like they are scared that thee riots / protests will turn against them and so have been forced to reduce restrictions. Hopefully things will continue in this direction.[/QUOTE]No quarantaine this weekend but curfew everynight starting at 8 pm, total alcohol ban....and riots everywhere during the day.
[QUOTE=DandyMan51;2556468]I'll be heading there this weekend and it looks like I picked the right time. They will be ending the 4:3 quarantine this weekend and we just hit 3800 pesos to the dollar. The government is claiming the virus situation is improving but really it just looks like they are scared that thee riots / protests will turn against them and so have been forced to reduce restrictions. Hopefully things will continue in this direction.[/QUOTE]I agree with you, but I would also offer that the government was possibly exaggerating the virus situation to a certain extent.
[QUOTE=DandyMan51;2556468]I'll be heading there this weekend and it looks like I picked the right time. They will be ending the 4:3 quarantine this weekend and we just hit 3800 pesos to the dollar. The government is claiming the virus situation is improving but really it just looks like they are scared that thee riots / protests will turn against them and so have been forced to reduce restrictions. Hopefully things will continue in this direction.[/QUOTE]But it's far from a good time to go. Duque backed off a bit on the taxes thing but there is still a lot of anger in the city. The curfew will continue to limit free travel and my Novia just texted me Bosa is rioting in this very moment because a policeman raped a 12 year old girl in Bosa. Her father has been trying to get to Bosa from the south in his taxi and it has been impossible. Also, the students of the National University are threatening to stage more protests because a student was killed by the police.
I have temporary plans to return to Bogota after Mothers day and before Memorial day but I will need to know it's not going to take me 5 hours to get from the airport to Chico Norte. I'm hoping things get back to normal but I have my doubts.
[QUOTE=LatinaLover#1;2556741]But it's far from a good time to go. Duque backed off a bit on the taxes thing but there is still a lot of anger in the city. The curfew will continue to limit free travel and my Novia just texted me Bosa is rioting in this very moment because a policeman raped a 12 year old girl in Bosa. Her father has been trying to get to Bosa from the south in his taxi and it has been impossible. Also, the students of the National University are threatening to stage more protests because a student was killed by the police.
I have temporary plans to return to Bogota after Mothers day and before Memorial day but I will need to know it's not going to take me 5 hours to get from the airport to Chico Norte. I'm hoping things get back to normal but I have my doubts.[/QUOTE]Santa fe is like sodom and gomorrah, it's pretty much in full swing minus the curfew which a lot of places don't care about. Vennies charging 35 k including room for the most part, the talent here blows veracruz centro out of the water. If you're on the fence gentlemen, and don't mind a little civil unrest, there is great mongering to be had here. Make sure to buy lube at the drug store, it really helps. Went 4/4 yesterday with the help of my friend sidenofilu
[QUOTE=JohnnyWalker55;2556874]Santa fe is like sodom and gomorrah, it's pretty much in full swing minus the curfew which a lot of places don't care about. Vennies charging 35 k including room for the most part, the talent here blows veracruz centro out of the water. If you're on the fence gentlemen, and don't mind a little civil unrest, there is great mongering to be had here. Make sure to buy lube at the drug store, it really helps. Went 4/4 yesterday with the help of my friend sidenofilu[/QUOTE]I was there about 6:30 Nice Selection -- did 3 -All great! Last one was around 8 with sirens going off.
How is robbery / vandalism situation in Santa Fe and in the surrounding area?
[QUOTE=JohnnyWalker55;2556874]Santa fe is like sodom and gomorrah, it's pretty much in full swing minus the curfew which a lot of places don't care about. Vennies charging 35 k including room for the most part, the talent here blows veracruz centro out of the water. If you're on the fence gentlemen, and don't mind a little civil unrest, there is great mongering to be had here. Make sure to buy lube at the drug store, it really helps. Went 4/4 yesterday with the help of my friend sidenofilu[/QUOTE]
Still lots of protests but many people returned to work today, but had to walk home because the Transmilenio stop working early and not on some routes. Looks like a lot less violence, if any today. Things looking better. Still hoping for a late May visit.
So I've been doing some reading online and I saw Sofitel Bogota Victoria Regia was "supposed" to be chica friendly, but I'm skeptical because when I look on this website I don't see many mentions of the hotel. It appears that tequendama suites might be my best option, but does anyone have any other hotels they can suggest. It appears it be rather difficult to find a girl friendly hotel here. I'm starting to think just get a decent hotel near the action like a Hilton and go out for my fun. I think I just like the idea of having girls travels to me late at night or if I'm feeling lazy.
[QUOTE=BabyTravlerr;2557759]So I've been doing some reading online and I saw Sofitel Bogota Victoria Regia was "supposed" to be chica friendly, but I'm skeptical because when I look on this website I don't see many mentions of the hotel. It appears that tequendama suites might be my best option, but does anyone have any other hotels they can suggest. It appears it be rather difficult to find a girl friendly hotel here. I'm starting to think just get a decent hotel near the action like a Hilton and go out for my fun. I think I just like the idea of having girls travels to me late at night or if I'm feeling lazy.[/QUOTE]JW Marriott in Chapinero. A friend of mine stays there a lot and has girls over-- he pays guest fees though.
[QUOTE=Woodman09;2557921]JW Marriott in Chapinero. A friend of mine stays there a lot and has girls over-- he pays guest fees though.[/QUOTE]Thank you for the response Woodman. Yes, I saw that hotel. I was thinking about booking it until I saw the $40 guest fee. Looks like its either Love motels or Paying guest fee's. Thanks again for your help!
[QUOTE=Woodman09;2557921]JW Marriott in Chapinero. A friend of mine stays there a lot and has girls over-- he pays guest fees though.[/QUOTE]That is fucked up. I thought you didn't have to pay any guest fees in foreign-owned hotels. I would call Marriott customer service for an explanation.
Hey all,
It's been a while since I've posted here.
Wanted to give a summary of the past 3 trips to Bogota. February March and April.
First a little about me. Middle aged. Good looking. Speak very good Spanish. So I know I have things easy compared to other members who go there. And I've been going there for 3 years.
Covid has screwed up things as we know. However places like Troya have been mostly open. I only had one weekend that really almost all were closed. But I still managed due to my contacts.
One night I even got thrown into the Police Bus because of not wearing a face mask. Yes they wanted money. And I resolved things within 30 min or so. Police are still the biggest thief's there.
Outside talent has remained very good. As per my opinion. And as well as most bar. I tend to stay between Troya. Because it's great overall. Venus and Atonys you can smoke in there. So I spend a lot of time in those too as well.
Got lucky at Cadima one night and took a hit 32 year old to my hotel for all night for 100 k. Amazing experience I gave her 150 k. Have a couple chicas o have messed around in the past. So I pretty much give them about 130 k per night. I'm not a huge fan of the quickies. But I use the quickies as away to meet new girls.
Yes The protests and the riots sucked. I was there.
Now! A word to the wise. There has been some beatings going down over there because of people filming the girls outside. Don't do that guys. Have some respect if not for the people at least for your health and safety.
I'll report again soon. Got to go.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2557993]That is fucked up. I thought you didn't have to pay any guest fees in foreign-owned hotels. I would call Marriott customer service for an explanation.[/QUOTE]A couple of years back that used to be the case, but now only the first guest is 'free'. Same with Hilton. Can be a real bummer if on a business trip.
[QUOTE=Kib123;2558027]A couple of years back that used to be the case, but now only the first guest is 'free'. Same with Hilton. Can be a real bummer if on a business trip.[/QUOTE]That was the case in Costa Rica years ago. The sleep in would let you register One guest, if you booked double occupancy but you could NOT change the name of the guest and they would force you to pay a guest fee for every new guest after that.
[QUOTE=Woodman09;2557921]JW Marriott in Chapinero. A friend of mine stays there a lot and has girls over-- he pays guest fees though.[/QUOTE]I brought a girl to JW Marriott a few years ago. I met her in the adjacent café and walked past the front desk as if I owned the place. But I'd asked her to dress nicely and she really didn't look like a hooker. It might've been different if she did, but the place is really very busy in the daytime with dozens of people coming and going.
My novia tells me they have called for another National protest for tomorrow. I was hoping this shit would calm down enough to visit but I'll need to see how many protesters turn out for this one. A small turn out might signal an end to this shit. I am conflicted about these protests. I have seen first hand how difficult life is for the vast majority of the Colombian working class. And as a visitor, I'm a little ashamed because I want all this shit to go away for my convenience. However, I want to see a real improvement for these people. I guess what will be, will be.
[QUOTE=BabyTravlerr;2557982]Thank you for the response Woodman. Yes, I saw that hotel. I was thinking about booking it until I saw the $40 guest fee. Looks like its either Love motels or Paying guest fee's. Thanks again for your help![/QUOTE]Another 2 hotels I know where this friend of mine stayed at a few years back are the El Dorado near Zona Rosa and the Grand Hyatt.
He had a stable of Seeking girls coming he was a big spender so I'm sure they were tacking on the guest fees.
[QUOTE=LatinaLover#1;2558056]And as a visitor, I'm a little ashamed because I want all this shit to go away for my convenience. However, I want to see a real improvement for these people. I guess what will be, will be.[/QUOTE]Wondering if I should change my plans for 1st week of June. Don't want to be stuck in a hotel room the whole time. What do you guys think? Travelling solo with no contacts in country.
Because of the bad economy, low oil price, the widening income gap, high unemployment, etc, the protest may "possibly" last or expand for several years.
[QUOTE=LatinaLover#1;2558056]My novia tells me they have called for another National protest for tomorrow. I was hoping this shit would calm down enough to visit but I'll need to see how many protesters turn out for this one. A small turn out might signal an end to this shit. I am conflicted about these protests. I have seen first hand how difficult life is for the vast majority of the Colombian working class. And as a visitor, I'm a little ashamed because I want all this shit to go away for my convenience. However, I want to see a real improvement for these people. I guess what will be, will be.[/QUOTE]
Because of the bad economy, low oil price, the widening income gap, high unemployment, etc, the protest may "possibly" last or expand for several years.
[QUOTE=LatinaLover#1;2558056]My novia tells me they have called for another National protest for tomorrow. I was hoping this shit would calm down enough to visit but I'll need to see how many protesters turn out for this one. A small turn out might signal an end to this shit. I am conflicted about these protests. I have seen first hand how difficult life is for the vast majority of the Colombian working class. And as a visitor, I'm a little ashamed because I want all this shit to go away for my convenience. However, I want to see a real improvement for these people. I guess what will be, will be.[/QUOTE]
When will the lock downs end? Nobody knows. No fun allowed. Sorry, Santa Fe police bus is not fun.
17,000 new cases and hospitals at 87% .
6% vaccinated.
Brazil variant is coming.
Some have said since everyone is desperate, it's a good time to bring them to your hotel. I get it. And I might do it. Let's wait another month or more and see.
[QUOTE=ProneToBone;2558198]Wondering if I should change my plans for 1st week of June. Don't want to be stuck in a hotel room the whole time. What do you guys think? Travelling solo with no contacts in country.[/QUOTE]I'm in the same boat as to should I or shouldn't I. I'm still waiting to hear how intense todays strike was, I'm betting it's a little calmer. I have numerous plans with some very special friends that I want to see when my novia is busy in virtual class. Hehe) I plan on being in Bogota before Memorial Day and I don't want cancel. I'm taking a wait and see attitude but it doesn't look good. The problem. Other than the obvious with possible riots in the street is the side effects of this. The blocked streets and truck driver strike has crippled the city. Food prices are skyrocketing and that's only if you can find the food, this undoubtedly will affect how the remaining open, restaurants can continue to do business. Unlike some on this site, who are very happy staying in a close hotel to SF, screw as many of the street working girls as possible, eat chicken on the corner restaurant in SF, have a few beers and a few laughs with a wingman, then go get another one, keeps thing simple, with limited impact from all this shit. Whatever floats you boat. And that's ok, but for me, Been there, done that.
I like to I enjoy the city, at my age I'm content fucking a beautiful, non pro Colombiana once a day. The rest of the time I want to go to my favorite restaurants in the north, the casinos and going to Jacques for an afternoon coffee, a French pastry with a gorgeous woman. So my M. O. Is basically fucked if all this unrest continues. To sum it up, if SF is your thing, and I'm not judging, I think you'll be fine, my friend Woodman is a great resource to help you enjoy SF, so go and enjoy unless you hear the wheels are falling off in the city. That's a whole different scenario. Stay safe.
[QUOTE=LatinaLover#1;2558454]
I like to I enjoy the city, at my age I'm content fucking a beautiful, non pro Colombiana once a day. The rest of the time I want to go to my favorite restaurants in the north, the casinos and going to Jacques for an afternoon coffee, a French pastry with a gorgeous woman. So my M. O. Is basically fucked if all this unrest continues. To sum it up, if SF is your thing, and I'm not judging, I think you'll be fine, my friend Woodman is a great resource to help you enjoy SF, so go and enjoy unless you hear the wheels are falling off in the city. That's a whole different scenario. Stay safe.[/QUOTE]I get your point, as this is exactly why I kept going to Colombia, and why I chosed to live here. The good news is that the night curfew has been lifted yesterday in Bogota despite sky high Covid numbers. I guess authorities understood that they are paying the economic and social price of keeping the people under such a long lockdown without any financial relief.
Been trying to send a message, but your inbox is full. Can you clean some space for me to send a private message? Thanks.
[QUOTE=Routard;2558508]I get your point, as this is exactly why I kept going to Colombia, and why I chosed to live here. The good news is that the night curfew has been lifted yesterday in Bogota despite sky high Covid numbers. I guess authorities understood that they are paying the economic and social price of keeping the people under such a long lockdown without any financial relief.[/QUOTE]Lopez statement on her twitter last night.
The mayor of Bogotá, Claudia López, spoke about the events, highlighting the consequences of the blockades.
"We have been blocking portals and entrances to Bogotá for 12 days. Hundreds of thousands of people unable to work have to walk and pay much more for informal transportation. Crops have been lost and food has become more expensive. What is improved by increasing unemployment and making food more expensive?
Duque rescinded the tax law, putting that law in place when the masses were still reeling from this Covid thing was a colossal mistake.
Now the anarchist have Hi-jacked the movement. As they always do and are inflicting more pain on the people without any clear solutions to better things for everyone. Seems that they are bent on bringing down the government. This will benefit no one. Seems like the Colombian socialist have taken a page out of the militant Democrat left book to.
'never let a crisis go to waste. '.
The statement is taken out of context.
Also, new curfew hours are between 11 pm and 4 am while bars / shops must close at 10 pm.
[QUOTE=LatinaLover#1;2558521]Lopez statement on her twitter last night.
The mayor of Bogot, Claudia Lpez, spoke about the events, highlighting the consequences of the blockades.
"We have been blocking portals and entrances to Bogot for 12 days. Hundreds of thousands of people unable to work have to walk and pay much more for informal transportation. Crops have been lost and food has become more expensive. What is improved by increasing unemployment and making food more expensive?
Duque rescinded the tax law, putting that law in place when the masses were still reeling from this Covid thing was a colossal mistake.
Now the anarchist have Hi-jacked the movement. As they always do and are inflicting more pain on the people without any clear solutions to better things for everyone. Seems that they are bent on bringing down the government. This will benefit no one. Seems like the Colombian socialist have taken a page out of the militant Democrat left book to.
'never let a crisis go to waste. '.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Voyajer1;2558518]Been trying to send a message, but your inbox is full. Can you clean some space for me to send a private message? Thanks.[/QUOTE]OK, Thanks.
Hung out in the South Stroll area near the Monaco building. The place is Moto Central. Those guys love hanging out in the area. Lots of good talent. 35 k for a session with a chica including room. Had several. Good sessions. Lots of plastic surgery around. Ran into a rare Colombiana, all natural, that offered a semi GFE experience with BBBJ. Actually she was the best session for the day. I hung out a little bit in the pool hall that sells the meat in the store front and hot food. There's a beer bar inside with beer for 3 k. Played some pool with the fellas. It was weird playing pool with no pockets on the table. Also played a game in the back where you toss these small steel balls and try to get them through a metal frog and 2 other metal pieces and holes. Pretty interesting game. The passer is out in the open with no privacy but I wasn't bothered but a little surprised. Explored other parts of Santa Fe. Lots of girls out that were questionable in age so be careful and choose wisely. The block where the AutoLavado 16 is populated with TS walkers so beware. Santa Fe was bustling with activity. Lots of variety and choices to keep you busy for hours.
There was a murder incident at the center of Santa Fe last night and there were many police officers.
Please stay safe.
[URL]https://noticias.caracoltv.com/ojo-de-la-noche/en-plena-zona-de-tolerancia-de-bogota-hombre-fue-asesinado-a-la-salida-de-un-local[/URL]
[QUOTE=BlueTouch;2558973]There was a murder incident at the center of Santa Fe last night and there were many police officers.
Please stay safe.
[URL]https://noticias.caracoltv.com/ojo-de-la-noche/en-plena-zona-de-tolerancia-de-bogota-hombre-fue-asesinado-a-la-salida-de-un-local[/URL][/QUOTE]SF is usually ok in the center, it gets more risky the more you venture away from the center. I'm surprised because the bosses of SF try to keep things quiet, bad for business. BUT I repeat 'there is no safe area' Colombia has gotten more dangerous by the day. My novia's family has been repeatedly robbed in Bogota. She has lost 3 cell phones, a bag of food and a few dollars. She barely escaped from a Venezuelan. As she walked from one small mall to the other. He put a gun in her rib and started to drag her to a closed construction site. Thank God she had the stun gun I gave her previously, How she got the courage to stand up to this guy but she hit him with the taser and he jumped back and ran away. Her brother lost 2 cell phones and had his bike stolen from 2 muggers, likewise with her mother, phones and her entire paycheck One day she was working out in Mosquera, a small town 45 minutes outside of the south of Bogota. Finally, her father a taxi driver, walked a few blocks from the apartment to buy a few things from the market and 2 guys surprised him in a mugging, he didn't comply quickly enough, they shot him twice, once in the leg and once in the head, the one to head was meant to kill him. He was in a coma for a month and recovered after 3 months of intense therapy the son of a ***** recovered enough to resume his work as a taxi driver. All this has happened to ONE family in the last 2 and a half years. You need to keep your guard up 24/7 take a cab and have a safe trip and stay alive.
[QUOTE=SilverTurtle;2558209]Because of the bad economy, low oil price, the widening income gap, high unemployment, etc, the protest may "possibly" last or expand for several years.[/QUOTE]You are correct but what started it is when the government stupidly, recently, raised taxes.
Just saw this on FB.
[QUOTE=ProneToBone;2558198]Wondering if I should change my plans for 1st week of June. Don't want to be stuck in a hotel room the whole time. What do you guys think? Travelling solo with no contacts in country.[/QUOTE]Not bad at all, a few protests here and there, but largely peaceful. Business as usual in the most part.
I haven't posted on this sub in a long time as I'm not living in Colombia anymore as I did in 2019. I did visit for a month in December 2020 and am going to go back for a month in July.
I have been to Brazil and other countries in South America but I would say Colombia is hands down the most dangerous out of all of them as I have never witnessed so much petty robberies and armed (knive) robberies in real life compared to other countries. In regards to Santa Fe, I have not ever been robbed there (aside from prostitutes and waiters "forgetting" to give back the change). I would visit Santa Fe here and there during my time in 2019 and would see the occasional street fight and even seen a cop get the shit beat out of him by a Santa Fe Hood guy next to the transmilenio there LOL. But there was one time where I was eating salchipapa outside of the kiosk / restaurant next to the Piscina night Club. The restaurant took out the food cart to block the entrance of their fast food restaurant that day to serve people only in the street (that restaurant does that a lot). All of a sudden we heard a lot of gunshots from the other end of the street and a wave of prostitutes and people were running from the scene towards us. I saw a guy limping as he was shot in the leg asking the Taxis for a ride and every single one ignored him. We (the 3 patrons) rushed in the restaurant (getting the cart out of the way) to be safe inside the restaurant. The workers refused to close the doors so that the active shooters wouldn't come in. They said "If you're going to be around these streets you can't be scared" as they continued to fry the French fries outside. What happened was that there was a shoot out between police and gangmembers. That was the first and only time I see that type of thing happen in Santa Fe so its not common.
South side of Bogota- I would say to anyone to stay away from here. Here is the news report (video below) of a 4 month undercover operation that the district was conducting to finally shut down 20 clubs in el Primer de Mayo in July 2019 where 500 policemen stormed the clubs in that street. At (3:36 time) you can see how the police break down the doors of numerous clubs. Most of those clubs sale fake alcohol (liquor adulterado) to increase profit margins and use scopolamine / Colombian roofies (4:18 time). They use scopolamine to steal male customers phones, wallets and empty their bank accounts or credit cards which can be seen in the beginning of the video where workers of those clubs go to the store to buy million of pesos worth of stuff or at the ATM machine. They found hundreds of stolen credit cards in those clubs that night (Time 4:50). This happened in 2019 after I left Colombia. I went back in January 2020 and they are ALL still open. ALL of those clubs pay the local police so that they don't have to close down. I don't know how the city lets the police station from that neighborhood get away with it. I remember some guy on this forum said that he lived near that area for years and never heard of something like thisheppen in that area. I honestly think he is living under a rock, as I can't bring myself to believe him, as everyone who lives there knows that's true.
I think the situation is getting worse. As 2 of my friends were drugged in a normal night club in Chapinero last month. Their guards were down since clubs in the North of Bogota aren't known for robbing their customers and they weren't in a prostitute / strip club. It was just a lesbian couple that drugged / robbed them. He knows that because in the morning he saw that lesbian couple recorded a video of themselves kissing with his stolen Iphone on the cloud. They turned it off 2 hours after that and he couldn't track it anymore. First time that I personally hear of 2 guys getting drugged, its always when its just one guy by himself. So if you're going to go, be careful out there because that drug can kill you if they pour too much. You basically fall asleep and never wake up. Take care.
VIDEO.
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPnWoGPbxiw[/URL]
[QUOTE=Woodman09;2559216]Just saw this on FB.[/QUOTE]It's been a while since I heard about any guys hit by this. The last time I heard about it the guy actually helped the girls and their boyfriends empty his apartment. When he came out of ether a few days later he asked the doorman why didn't you stop them? The doorman said YOU were helping them carry the shit out. They can blow it you face or drop it in your drink and your fucked for a day or 2. It's easy to get, the flowers grow abundantly on the trees in Bogota.
[QUOTE=Woodman09;2559216]Just saw this on FB.[/QUOTE]Guys be very careful. Please don't disrespect about us being stupid. It literally can happen to anyone. We met 2 girls me and my friend on tinder, went out with them once then invited them over. They were pushy to make us cocktails but we said no. However somehow they managed to spike our drinks with scopolamina. We woke up almost after 2 days with evething gone. I just want to share the info I have so you can be careful.
[QUOTE=Kib123;2559243]Not bad at all, a few protests here and there, but largely peaceful. Business as usual in the most part.[/QUOTE]To the first week of June, hoping it gets less intense.
[QUOTE=BlueCar;2559246]I have been to Brazil and other countries in South America but I would say Colombia is hands down the most dangerous out of all of them as I have never witnessed so much petty robberies and armed (knife) robberies in real life compared to other countries. [/QUOTE]I was going to Rio de Janeiro however I live in Israel. Israel just banned all travel to Brazil. So now I've booked a flight to Bogota. How about this: Rent an airbnb in the Zona Rosa. Stick to some local brothels like Absolut Spa and Tantra Spa. What can go wrong?
[QUOTE=Woodman09;2559255]Guys be very careful. Please don't disrespect about us being stupid. It literally can happen to anyone. We met 2 girls me and my friend on tinder, went out with them once then invited them over. They were pushy to make us cocktails but we said no. However somehow they managed to spike our drinks with scopolamina. We woke up almost after 2 days with evething gone. I just want to share the info I have so you can be careful.[/QUOTE]Wow, by gods grace go thee.
8 months ago I knew something was wrong with my gringo buddy here in Medellin, we talk almost everyday and I could not reach him for 2 days so drove over to his apartment and banged on his door for 5 minutes, he finally opened the door with a fucked up look on his face, completely drugged out look, he had urinated in his pants and had no idea who he was or where he was or what day it was, he did recognize me 'barely', yep 2 nights before he had a Tinder girl over to his apartment alone, he remembers taking one small sip of a coke he was drinking (he drinks no alcohol) and remembers a funny taste, that was all that he remembers.
He could not believe that it was almost 2 days later. She stole his 2 iPhone and about 3. 000.000 in pesos.
He learned a hard lesson and now thankful that he is alive.
BTW, he does not do anymore Tinder girls but has a stable of about 10 local girls, not pros, of which he sees about 2 to 4 each day, everyday and no more Tinder.
A few nights ago we did a double date to a local restaurant then partied with these chicas back at his apartment, it was a fun night and there is safety in numbers as we watch each others back.
Much love and respect to all! Be safe!
The Tall Man.
[QUOTE=Woodman09;2559255]Guys be very careful. Please don't disrespect about us being stupid. It literally can happen to anyone. We met 2 girls me and my friend on tinder, went out with them once then invited them over. They were pushy to make us cocktails but we said no. However somehow they managed to spike our drinks with scopolamina. We woke up almost after 2 days with evething gone. I just want to share the info I have so you can be careful.[/QUOTE]And has lived in Bogota for at least 10 years and very familiar with SF and Bogota. It truly can happen, anywhere, anytime to anyone. I remember in the Help days in Rio. The most dangerous area for us Gringos was between Help and Bob's on Rua Djalma Ulrich, Everyone knew, never walk down that street. You could avoid any real injury in Rio by having a few reals in your pocket, throw it up in the air and run and you were home free, NOT IN Colombia. Now, it seems to me Colombia has become to most dangerous area to practice our hobby than ever before. Also many robbers are of "shoot first" ask questions later type. There is so much poverty now that people are going hungry. Don't trust the girls either, they are controlled by there boyfriends and will do whatever they say and Devils breath has made a big comeback in recent months. Not trying to scare any newbies here but it's best to pass on Colombia, my favorite country, for the time being.
[QUOTE=LatinaLover#1;2559256]To the first week of June, hoping it gets less intense.[/QUOTE]What dates? Where are you flying from? PM if you'd like.
Latina Lover #1
I walked that stretched between Help and Bobs many times without incident, but I was younger and ready to run at any sign of risk. Also walked several blocks from L'Uomo late at night down Ave N. S. Copacabana past many people sleeping on the street. I was stupid and lucky.
Anyway I don't think Brasil is going to be any safer than Colombia now. Lots of very desperate people in both countries. Which happen to be my two favorite destinations in the World.
[QUOTE=Combo;2559371]Latina Lover #1
I walked that stretched between Help and Bobs many times without incident, but I was younger and ready to run at any sign of risk. Also walked several blocks from L'Uomo late at night down Ave N. S. Copacabana past many people sleeping on the street. I was stupid and lucky.
Anyway I don't think Brasil is going to be any safer than Colombia now. Lots of very desperate people in both countries. Which happen to be my two favorite destinations in the World.[/QUOTE]We went to Bobs for a late burger from time to time but never turned right and walked up Rua Djalma Ulrich that was the real danger, once in a while you would see the shit slingers venture down closer to Help. My apartment was on Atlantica, turning left out of Help and go 2 blocks to the apartment always seemed somewhat safe. I had a wingman walk alone from Ipanema back to our apartment at 4 am he made it alive but had to out run one robber jaja ahh the memories, Help, Terraco, L'uomo never forget my first time at L'uomo a Terma / working girl house in the mall jaja only in Brazil.
Some preventive measures to reduce, if not totally eliminate, the risk of theft using scopolamine are below. There could be other things as well.
-1 Don't bring girls to your hotel room. Use short time hotel.
-2 Request girls to bring cedula, check its authenticity, and take a pic of it in front of them. Tell them the pic is stored in iCloud etc.
-3 If you use your hotel room, hotel receptionist must call you and confirm your safety when the girl is leaving the hotel.
All girls know that these are reasonable actions for safety though some of them may pretend to disagree and contend. Don't deal with the latter.
But information is power. I am seriously thinking of delaying my trip to Bogota in a few weeks until I see things normalize. Now is not the time but for anyone not vaccinated you should think of the possibility of getting sick in Bogota. Hoping for, state of the art care if you get covid, in Colombia is not going to happen, they are overwhelmed.
So on top of all the crime getting covid in Colombia will be a nightmare.
"460 patients need ICU in Bogotá and there are only 133 free beds".
By [URL]Noticiasrcn.com[/URL]14 hours ago.
[QUOTE=LatinaLover#1;2559404]But information is power..[/QUOTE]Why do you always put the first sentence of the Body into the Title space? I have a friend that puts everything he wants to say into the subject line and leaves the body part blank when he sends an email.
[QUOTE=LatinaLover#1;2559364]And has lived in Bogota for at least 10 years and very familiar with SF and Bogota. It truly can happen, anywhere, anytime to anyone. I remember in the Help days in Rio. The most dangerous area for us Gringos was between Help and Bob's on Rua Djalma Ulrich, Everyone knew, never walk down that street. You could avoid any real injury in Rio by having a few reals in your pocket, throw it up in the air and run and you were home free, NOT IN Colombia. Now, it seems to me Colombia has become to most dangerous area to practice our hobby than ever before. Also many robbers are of "shoot first" ask questions later type. There is so much poverty now that people are going hungry. Don't trust the girls either, they are controlled by there boyfriends and will do whatever they say and Devils breath has made a big comeback in recent months. Not trying to scare any newbies here but it's best to pass on Colombia, my favorite country, for the time being.[/QUOTE]Good Advice, I know many Santa Fe SGs, We have wonderful relationships that end at the door of the room. I know some girls for 8+ yrs.
I see the poverty on a daily basis-- I feel fortunate and scared as I have so much compared to them.
People are raising children on next to nothing. If food becomes scarce this situation could become a real shit-show.
[QUOTE=LatinaLover#1;2559373]We went to Bobs for a late burger from time to time but never turned right and walked up Rua Djalma Ulrich that was the real danger, once in a while you would see the shit slingers venture down closer to Help. My apartment was on Atlantica, turning left out of Help and go 2 blocks to the apartment always seemed somewhat safe. I had a wingman walk alone from Ipanema back to our apartment at 4 am he made it alive but had to out run one robber jaja ahh the memories, Help, Terraco, L'uomo never forget my first time at L'uomo a Terma / working girl house in the mall jaja only in Brazil.[/QUOTE]Never had any problems in Copa Cabana-- Guess I was lucky back in early 2000's during Help days-- I remember getting an open air BBBJ somewhere around there-- LOL.
[QUOTE=ProneToBone;2559367]What dates? Where are you flying from? PM if you'd like.[/QUOTE]Trying to PM you Latinalover. Your inbox is full.
I'm here now. Arrived 3 nights ago. This is my first trip here for 12 years. I can really feel a difference. There's a kind of tension in the air and more desperate or menacing looking people around than before. I'm staying at the Radisson Metrotel on Calle 74. I've walked from here up to Zona Rosa, and down to Chapinero around Lourdes. I haven't had any problems so far. Just a few people begging, no more than in Costa Rica where I just came from. But like I say, there's a definite feeling of tension and desperation just in the air and in the vibes some people give off.
I've had some Tinder girls in the hotel room. No drugging yet, haha. The hotel hasn't given me any problem yet about guests or charged any fee, even though I stupidly forgot to book the room for two. But I've only had girls over midday for a few hours. And they've all been dressed like normal girls, not slutty.
As for political demonstrations I haven't seen any. There's just a lot of graffiti around with their slogans. A couple of nights ago I heard what might have been gunshots off in the distance, though.
It might be silly and reckless to be here now but a lot of the best places in the world aren't open right now. Costa Rica was ok but I've always liked Colombia better. That's been true this time also especially about the girls. I have to go back to Saudi Arabia in a few days so I'll brave the risks knowing I might get locked in there again for months. Everyone stay safe.
[QUOTE=LatinaLover#1;2559404]But information is power. I am seriously thinking of delaying my trip to Bogota in a few weeks until I see things normalize. Now is not the time but for anyone not vaccinated you should think of the possibility of getting sick in Bogota. Hoping for, state of the art care if you get covid, in Colombia is not going to happen, they are overwhelmed.
So on top of all the crime getting covid in Colombia will be a nightmare.
"460 patients need ICU in Bogot and there are only 133 free beds".
By [URL]Noticiasrcn.com[/URL]14 hours ago.[/QUOTE]Gentlemen I went there in Nov last year. Never wore a mask at Santa Fe and always kept my hands washed. Sampled the ladies (up close obviously) and was just fine. I am far from saying COVID is not a threat. What I am saying is short of all out civil war / insurrection or Ebola don't let COVID stop you. Just my. 02.
Showdown.
[QUOTE=SilverTurtle;2559393]Some preventive measures to reduce, if not totally eliminate, the risk of theft using scopolamine are below. There could be other things as well.
-1 Don't bring girls to your hotel room. Use short time hotel.
-2 Request girls to bring cedula, check its authenticity, and take a pic of it in front of them. Tell them the pic is stored in iCloud etc.
-3 If you use your hotel room, hotel receptionist must call you and confirm your safety when the girl is leaving the hotel.
All girls know that these are reasonable actions for safety though some of them may pretend to disagree and contend. Don't deal with the latter.[/QUOTE]Best way to avoid being drugged is don't drink anything you didn't open, then you can save of doing all this stuff.
Is a pity how dangerous became Colombia, it could be a paradise without this.
Please check the local news every morning, and don't go out on a day when there is a protest. Thugs are taking advantage of the (legitimate) protests.
[QUOTE=Mahku;2559446]I'm here now. Arrived 3 nights ago. This is my first trip here for 12 years. I can really feel a difference. There's a kind of tension in the air and more desperate or menacing looking people around than before. I'm staying at the Radisson Metrotel on Calle 74. I've walked from here up to Zona Rosa, and down to Chapinero around Lourdes. I haven't had any problems so far. Just a few people begging, no more than in Costa Rica where I just came from. But like I say, there's a definite feeling of tension and desperation just in the air and in the vibes some people give off.
I've had some Tinder girls in the hotel room. No drugging yet, haha. The hotel hasn't given me any problem yet about guests or charged any fee, even though I stupidly forgot to book the room for two. But I've only had girls over midday for a few hours. And they've all been dressed like normal girls, not slutty.
As for political demonstrations I haven't seen any. There's just a lot of graffiti around with their slogans. A couple of nights ago I heard what might have been gunshots off in the distance, though.
It might be silly and reckless to be here now but a lot of the best places in the world aren't open right now. Costa Rica was ok but I've always liked Colombia better. That's been true this time also especially about the girls. I have to go back to Saudi Arabia in a few days so I'll brave the risks knowing I might get locked in there again for months. Everyone stay safe.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=HarryDubois;2559285]I was going to Rio de Janeiro however I live in Israel. Israel just banned all travel to Brazil. So now I've booked a flight to Bogota. How about this: Rent an airbnb in the Zona Rosa. Stick to some local brothels like Absolut Spa and Tantra Spa. What can go wrong?[/QUOTE]You seem to be a super-cautious guy judging by your previous questions, and now it seems you're about to fly into a city with heightened security concerns. Plenty of things can go wrong. Go to Cartagena if you have a budget or Santo Domingo, DR, and avoid Bogota and probably Medellin for the time being. Bogota will still be there for you when things have returned back to normal. Seriously, consider the DR as a safer alternative.
[QUOTE=Xpartan;2559536]You seem to be a super-cautious guy judging by your previous questions, and now it seems you're about to fly into a city with heightened security concerns. Plenty of things can go wrong. Go to Cartagena if you have a budget or Santo Domingo, DR, and avoid Bogota and probably Medellin for the time being. Bogota will still be there for you when things have returned back to normal. Seriously, consider the DR as a safer alternative.[/QUOTE]I always thought of the DR as being pretty dangerous, especially Santo Domingo.
Here's my plan, I've made all the reservations however I can still cancel.
Fly into to Bogota. Through [URL]booking.com[/URL] I've booked transportation to and from the airport.
Stay at [URL]https://www.82hostel.com/[/URL], in the middle of Zona Rosa. Super cheap, discount rates and I have a feeling it's going to be pretty empty besides me. I can relax with my laptop and wifi.
Visit [URL]http://serviciosprepagos.com/colorin-spa-sala-de-masajes-tematica/[/URL] daily during daylight. 180 K per hour. 5 minute walk.
Buy anything else and use the ATM at Atlantis Plaza Shopping Mall, during the daytime, also 5 minute walk. By the way, I have a money belt which straps around my waist under my shirt where I keep valuables when traveling.
After a month, take my pre booked car back to the airport and I'm gone.
My assumption is that not only will the girls in the brothel be beautiful and affordable, but also very and excited to get a nice gringo customer during this time.
It doesn't sound worse to me than spending a month in any other city, if I follow these guidelines. Where I live now, Haifa Israel, I could also get hit by a bus. Any thoughts?
I got the Pfizer vaccine, both shots, months ago, so I think I'm safe on that as well.
[QUOTE=HarryDubois;2559564]I got the Pfizer vaccine, both shots, months ago, so I think I'm safe on that as well.[/QUOTE]I saw your plans and they are Solid- You will be fine in the North. No big problems up there.
I live in the thick of it or next to it and it has all been protests and violence against the police.
Of course-- shit can happen-- But you live in an actual war zone right now?
[QUOTE=SankarShetty;2559429]Trying to PM you Latinalover. Your inbox is full.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the heads up, I'll clear out some old stuff.
Decided to try out the la celestina agency to get my feet wet in Bogota and opted for Daniela Posada.
Messaged them on telegram in Spanish with some help from google translate and went to a local love motel to wait for her. She showed up about 20 minutes late due to traffic (as is common in Bogota). Started talking a bit and took a shower. She is really a petite lolita type girl with really small tits and a decent ass for her size. Good body, not so great face. Tried kissing her a bit. She didn't resist but wasn't really into it and didn't provide tongue. Wanted to 69 with her but she wasn't into that and wanted to do OWO but she turned down the offer even for additional $$ She gave decent oral and we did a few positions. She did put some effort into it but I didn't enjoy it as much as I didn't feel much chemistry. That being said it has been almost a year since I had the chance to monger. Finished and talked a bit and took a final shower. Honestly the whole experience was kind of like and FKK in Germany and at about the same price (240 K). Kind of disappointed about the lack of kissing since that is a major part of the reason I came to Colombia but maybe next time I'll probably tell the girl I have had my Covid shots and that may change.
Also passed by part of Santa Fe during the day in a taxi while I was going between some tourist sites. Saw a bunch of ugly girls and some trannys but I think I passed by one of the shittier areas of it. Actually hit a protest on the way back to my apartment. Was a pretty small one with what looked like mostly students. Didn't affect us much other than adding a couple minutes to the ride for the driver to take the back roads.
[QUOTE=Woodman09;2559630]I saw your plans and they are Solid- You will be fine in the North.
Of course-- shit can happen-- But you live in an actual war zone right now?[/QUOTE]Well, I'm sort of in a war zone. There is a war going on now in Israel between Jews and Muslims. So far, 200 Muslims vs 10 Jews are dead so the Jews are winning. I'm Jewish. I live in a mixed Muslim / Jewish neighborhood in Haifa. Half my neighbors are Muslim. I have noticed a little tension lately. A police car got torched with a Molotov cocktail near where I live. No injuries. There have been some dumpsters set on fire in the streets. The biggest problem is that the airport is shut down at this time because of the possibility of commercial aircraft getting hit in the crossfire however if in a month the fighting is continuing and my flight is cancelled because of that, then I get a refund.
My main concern in Bogota is being attacked by an armed robber or getting drugged with scopolamine. However it sounds to me that if I stick to the Zona Rosa, stick to sex in massage clinics instead of hanging out in clubs or bringing girls to my room, stick to being on the street in the daytime only and even that probably about 20 minutes per day, only use the ATMs in the shopping mall I should be OK. I think that following my plan, I should get a lot of sex at a low price and minimal risks.
My impression is that a lot of massage girls in Bogota at this time are really desperate for customers. They might be happy to do stuff which they would normally avoid, like French kissing, uncovered blow job and maybe even full bareback sex because they really need those pesos after a year of COVID. On the other hand, the thieves are extra desperate also.
Any comments, suggestions or questions are welcome.
[QUOTE=HarryDubois;2559753]Well, I'm sort of in a war zone. There is a war going on now in Israel between Jews and Muslims. So far, 200 Muslims vs 10 Jews are dead so the Jews are winning. I'm Jewish. I live in a mixed Muslim / Jewish neighborhood in Haifa. Half my neighbors are Muslim. I have noticed a little tension lately. A police car got torched with a Molotov cocktail near where I live. No injuries. There have been some dumpsters set on fire in the streets. The biggest problem is that the airport is shut down at this time because of the possibility of commercial aircraft getting hit in the crossfire however if in a month the fighting is continuing and my flight is cancelled because of that, then I get a refund.
My main concern in Bogota is being attacked by an armed robber or getting drugged with scopolamine. However it sounds to me that if I stick to the Zona Rosa, stick to sex in massage clinics instead of hanging out in clubs or bringing girls to my room, stick to being on the street in the daytime only and even that probably about 20 minutes per day, only use the ATMs in the shopping mall I should be OK. I think that following my plan, I should get a lot of sex at a low price and minimal risks.
My impression is that a lot of massage girls in Bogota at this time are really desperate for customers. They might be happy to do stuff which they would normally avoid, like French kissing, uncovered blow job and maybe even full bareback sex because they really need those pesos after a year of COVID. On the other hand, the thieves are extra desperate also.
Any comments, suggestions or questions are welcome.[/QUOTE]Sounds like you are in Way more danger in Israel-- Here no one is after you.
I think you are way more worried than you need be.
[QUOTE=Woodman09;2559859]Sounds like you are in Way more danger in Israel-- Here no one is after you.
I think you are way more worried than you need be.[/QUOTE]Really Israel is OK, unless you are a Muslim living in the Gaza Strip in which case you should definitely try to live somewhere else. As far as Jews are concerned, 10 extra deaths out of a population of 6. 5 million is not huge. Bogota has a similar sized population, about 7 million, with about 1000 homicides a year. Plus if you are a "rich" foreign tourist, wandering around at night, making friends in clubs with girls you don't know, taking them back to your room, etc from what I'm reading that could end very badly especially with people now extra desperate for cash due to the economic crisis. In New York City that type of behavior would not be a problem, but isn't Bogota a much different environment when it comes to armed robbery and drugged robbery?
My plan is to take advantage of massage girls who are desperate for customers and might be happy to do a lot more than usual to keep the pesos coming (I'll be there for a month so there is the chance for repeat business) while at the same time keeping my head down and not giving the thieves any opportunities.
By the way, about 60 Israeli Jews per year are homicide victims and I believe that a majority of those are domestics. Bogota, with a similar number of people, has 1000 and I believe that most of those are robbery related. I'm not trying to make any big patriotic speech about Israel, however the streets here at least in Jewish areas are unbelievably safe. But, at age 60, I'm not meeting any hot women here.
Prostitution is actually legal, but very very limited and very expensive.
Just completed 2 days in Bogota. Last minute trip with my GF from Medellin, no mongering whatsoever. Despite avoiding strip clubs and Santa Fe, I will echo what others have written in saying that Bogot seems to be very much on edge, even compared to Medellin. First of all, graffiti everywhere, and it seems like protestors and police are ready for nightly wars. We walked from Montserrate to Museo del Oro to Museo Nacional de Colombia. It's a walk I made about three years ago, and compared to then now it seems apocalyptic (all the graffiti, boarded up windows, shuttered storefronts). Everywhere we looked were people seemingly on the edge of poverty or beyond it. It was not a very pleasant journey, a lot like Medellin Centro.
We were staying in Chapinero, Zona G basically. There it felt safe, but there were much fewer people out on the streets compared to Lleras / Laureles, perhaps due to the protests or Covid, not sure. All in all, negative vibes from the city. Again I stayed out of the most sketchy monger areas, I can't imagine going there right now but hey you do you I guess.
Bogot does have some bomb restaurants though, Criterion, Cacio & Pepe, Harry Sasson were all great.
[QUOTE=Rextor;2560095]Just completed 2 days in Bogota. Last minute trip with my GF from Medellin, no mongering whatsoever. Despite avoiding strip clubs and Santa Fe, I will echo what others have written in saying that Bogot seems to be very much on edge, even compared to Medellin. First of all, graffiti everywhere, and it seems like protestors and police are ready for nightly wars. We walked from Montserrate to Museo del Oro to Museo Nacional de Colombia. It's a walk I made about three years ago, and compared to then now it seems apocalyptic (all the graffiti, boarded up windows, shuttered storefronts). Everywhere we looked were people seemingly on the edge of poverty or beyond it. It was not a very pleasant journey, a lot like Medellin Centro.
We were staying in Chapinero, Zona G basically. There it felt safe, but there were much fewer people out on the streets compared to Lleras / Laureles, perhaps due to the protests or Covid, not sure. All in all, negative vibes from the city. Again I stayed out of the most sketchy monger areas, I can't imagine going there right now but hey you do you I guess.
Bogot does have some bomb restaurants though, Criterion, Cacio & Pepe, Harry Sasson were all great.[/QUOTE]I was last in Bogota in October 2020 (drove in my car from Medellin as I usually do) and mind you this was before the recent protests and vandalism BUT I was dumbfounded by the graffiti on every building, literally on every building covered completely.
One afternoon I drove around the city for an hour and saw, no shit, 10,000 plus buildings covered in graffiti. The ONLY buildings that were not covered in graffiti were those that had 24 hour round the clock private security. Not only large commercial office buildings but even private residential apartments and homes.
I too walked from Montserrate to the gold museum and all around the city and saw both graffiti and boarded up buildings so could just imagine the devastation now because of the riots.
The Tall Man.
[QUOTE=Rextor;2560095]Just completed 2 days in Bogota. Despite avoiding strip clubs and Santa Fe, I will echo what others have written in saying that Bogot seems to be very much on edge All in all, negative vibes from the city. Again I stayed out of the most sketchy monger areas, I can't imagine going there right now but hey you do you I guess.[/QUOTE]I don't consider the monger area Santa Fe as sketchy. You are not seeing assaults and robberies going on there everyday. If people were really there to rob, then who would they be robbing? Other people that have gone there to rob? It is not like the place is full of rich foreigners. There are tons of people and police gathered there in the streets. I can't understand how it scares the shit out of people. What really is the difference between Parque Lleras and Santa Fe? I am not saying to not be cautious and keep your head on a swivel, but there is no need to be paranoid.
[QUOTE=Mahku;2559446]
I've had some Tinder girls in the hotel room. No drugging yet, haha. The hotel hasn't given me any problem yet about guests or charged any fee, even though I stupidly forgot to book the room for two. But I've only had girls over midday for a few hours. And they've all been dressed like normal girls, not slutty.
.[/QUOTE]Were these Tinder girls pros or non-pros?
Santa Fe and El Centro are dirty area with dirty, or non-clean, people. Only few people wear masks, and they don't like distancing. People are too close to you, they talk loud, and they are not clean. Some locals told me that it is Latin culture that they are uncomfortable with distancing / space or silence. Also girls don't take shower or clean after the sex.
[QUOTE=Rextor;2560095]Just completed 2 days in Bogota. Last minute trip with my GF from Medellin, no mongering whatsoever. Despite avoiding strip clubs and Santa Fe, I will echo what others have written in saying that Bogot seems to be very much on edge, even compared to Medellin. First of all, graffiti everywhere, and it seems like protestors and police are ready for nightly wars. We walked from Montserrate to Museo del Oro to Museo Nacional de Colombia. It's a walk I made about three years ago, and compared to then now it seems apocalyptic (all the graffiti, boarded up windows, shuttered storefronts). Everywhere we looked were people seemingly on the edge of poverty or beyond it. It was not a very pleasant journey, a lot like Medellin Centro.
We were staying in Chapinero, Zona G basically. There it felt safe, but there were much fewer people out on the streets compared to Lleras / Laureles, perhaps due to the protests or Covid, not sure. All in all, negative vibes from the city. Again I stayed out of the most sketchy monger areas, I can't imagine going there right now but hey you do you I guess.
Bogot does have some bomb restaurants though, Criterion, Cacio & Pepe, Harry Sasson were all great.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=HelloIm;2560189]Were these Tinder girls pros or non-pros?[/QUOTE]Student types that want money for tuition. So pros I guess. I just make sure to tell them to dress normal. And like I said it was all middle of the day and even morning after breakfast once.
About Santa Fe. I did walk around there on a late Saturday afternoon after there had been some protests. I came down from the Monserrate cable car, walking along this park that has a cascading waterway until I got to the center. All along the way there were lots of people out, families and so on. So the danger factor was pretty low. There were a number of rough characters hanging around but the police presence was high and plenty of people around. Mainly just guard against pickpocketing I guess. There are a number of pedestrian only streets so I just stuck to those. Wandering down isolated alleys is probably ill advised. Once I had seen Plaza Bolivar and people watched a bit I started heading back north. Once the crowds thinned out and the streets were looking pretty rough I just called an Uber. All the TransMilenio stations had been thrashed to some degree and there was no service. All the way up Avenida Caracas every station was smashed up to some degree.
[QUOTE=Mahku;2560231]Student types that want money for tuition. So pros I guess. I just make sure to tell them to dress normal. And like I said it was all middle of the day and even morning after breakfast once.
About Santa Fe. I did walk around there on a late Saturday afternoon after there had been some protests. I came down from the Monserrate cable car, walking along this park that has a cascading waterway until I got to the center. All along the way there were lots of people out, families and so on. So the danger factor was pretty low. There were a number of rough characters hanging around but the police presence was high and plenty of people around. Mainly just guard against pickpocketing I guess. There are a number of pedestrian only streets so I just stuck to those. Wandering down isolated alleys is probably ill advised. Once I had seen Plaza Bolivar and people watched a bit I started heading back north. Once the crowds thinned out and the streets were looking pretty rough I just called an Uber. All the TransMilenio stations had been thrashed to some degree and there was no service. All the way up Avenida Caracas every station was smashed up to some degree.[/QUOTE]Many, many robberies take place on the street, in buses and in and on the transmilenio platform. Colombians have been conditioned to 'not get involved' so never count on being safe because people are around. Stay safe.
Hey all,
Been a while Are there any local Bogota adult minded tour guides that you can recommend? Last minute trip to town. Short on time looking for a service that coordinates things, Thanks!
[QUOTE=Surferr3;2560330]Hey all,
Been a while Are there any local Bogota adult minded tour guides that you can recommend? Last minute trip to town. Short on time looking for a service that coordinates things, Thanks![/QUOTE]There's Woodman09 in this group.
[QUOTE=Surferr3;2560330]Hey all,
Been a while Are there any local Bogota adult minded tour guides that you can recommend? Last minute trip to town. Short on time looking for a service that coordinates things, Thanks![/QUOTE]Contact Woodman, highly recommended, I have known him a few years and he is active on these boards, he has your back. Just a quick search for others who have used his services in Bogota and you will be in good hands.
Enjoy!
The Tall Man.
[QUOTE=Surferr3;2560330]Hey all,
Been a while Are there any local Bogota adult minded tour guides that you can recommend? Last minute trip to town. Short on time looking for a service that coordinates things, Thanks![/QUOTE]You don't need to waste your money on a tour. Just scout out between Cal 22 and 24, Car 16 A and Caracas, you'll find more than enough. Also, multiple hotels in the area within walking distance.
Sampled a few agencies recently and here's my experience for those interested:
La Celestina: seems to be popular in Colombia forums. They responded very quickly to inquiries. However, most ladies listed as available on the site are actually not available. Curiously, they asked for a 50 k deposit before they sent the lady over. Their claim was that it was for the 'safety' of the girl. Felt like those listcrawler scammers, so I moved on.
Schoolmodelscol (on twitter): Second time using this agency. Very efficient overall. The most accurate in terms of the ladies pics and ages matching real life experience; they don't fudge age or use dated pics like almost every other agency. They are also very helpful in working with you to select someone who meets your needs. However they are pricey, 100 USD minimum damage per h. Used it twice, and both were as advertised. Highly recommended if you can afford it.
Escortbogota ([URL]escortsbogota.com.co[/URL]): Also responded very quickly to inquiries. Most of the ladies on the web were available. They also send face pics of your shortlist upon request. Prices are listed for each lady on the site, but additional 20 k is charged for taxi. Selected Marcela based on intel I scanned off of local Bogota forums. She was tiny (about 5 feet). Turned out to be the highlight of the entire trip. May be the horniest woman I ever met in my life. Highly recommended, but not if you have a heart condition. Total damage 260 k.
The usual:
Tried mezzanine, and selection was solid as always. Selected a hottie going by Mina / Mira or something close. Energetic, but standard session, CBJ, no kissing. The hottest lady I had the entire trip, but I probably won't be back. I am getting too old for the discomfort of the place. Damage has gone up to 100 k (was 80 k last year if I remember).
Abejitas (Avenida Suba #103 be-73): Went here for the first time. Selection was mediocre, about 8 - 10 ladies, mostly 3-5, a few 6's. First time selected a Brigette, the 'hottest' of the pack. Very good service, genuine passion and enthusiasm. Also strangely gave a very long massage afterwards to use up the entire hour, very rare in these places. The second time I went back to see if selection would improve, but no luck. Selected the next best thing to Brigette (don't remember name) who also provided excellent service. What the ladies lacked in looks they more than make up for in service, genuine GFE save for the CBJ. What I did not like is that the second lady tried to scam me by quoting 250 k, thinking I did not know the going rate.
Princesitas (Carrera 15 #116-59): My go to place. Only 3-4 ladies at any time, but always at least 1 hottie. Never had a bad service here. Tried 2 ladies on 2 visits, one a skinny hottie, and another with a big bootie (I think Alejandra) who was a very sensual performer. Gave an interesting massage, where the chin massages, while the titties do the mine sweep. Enjoyable.
Summary: My best experience in Colombia to date. All encounters gave enthusiastic GFE (DFK and all), except for the Mezzanine lady and the skinny one from Princesitas. I would have expected the opposite given the present circumstances. All take-outs, and even one spa lady gave BBBJ without asking. Not sure whether the pandemic made the ladies hornier or what.
Also, thanks to Mr Enternational's intel, covid testing for travel was a breeze (for 80 k). Address is Autopista Norte #86-65.
[QUOTE=Kib123;2560653]Sampled a few agencies recently and here's my experience for those interested:
La Celestina: seems to be popular in Colombia forums. They responded very quickly to inquiries. However, most ladies listed as available on the site are actually not available. Curiously, they asked for a 50 k deposit before they sent the lady over. Their claim was that it was for the 'safety' of the girl. Felt like those listcrawler scammers, so I moved on.
Schoolmodelscol (on twitter): Second time using this agency. Very efficient overall. The most accurate in terms of the ladies pics and ages matching real life experience; they don't fudge age or use dated pics like almost every other agency. They are also very helpful in working with you to select someone who meets your needs. However they are pricey, 100 USD minimum damage per h. Used it twice, and both were as advertised. Highly recommended if you can afford it.
Escortbogota ([URL]escortsbogota.com.co[/URL]): Also responded very quickly to inquiries. Most of the ladies on the web were available. They also send face pics of your shortlist upon request. Prices are listed for each lady on the site, but additional 20 k is charged for taxi. Selected Marcela based on intel I scanned off of local Bogota forums. She was tiny (about 5 feet). Turned out to be the highlight of the entire trip. May be the horniest woman I ever met in my life. Highly recommended, but not if you have a heart condition. Total damage 260 k.
The usual:
Tried mezzanine, and selection was solid as always. Selected a hottie going by Mina / Mira or something close. Energetic, but standard session, CBJ, no kissing. The hottest lady I had the entire trip, but I probably won't be back. I am getting too old for the discomfort of the place. Damage has gone up to 100 k (was 80 k last year if I remember).
Abejitas (Avenida Suba #103 be-73): Went here for the first time. Selection was mediocre, about 8 - 10 ladies, mostly 3-5, a few 6's. First time selected a Brigette, the 'hottest' of the pack. Very good service, genuine passion and enthusiasm. Also strangely gave a very long massage afterwards to use up the entire hour, very rare in these places. The second time I went back to see if selection would improve, but no luck. Selected the next best thing to Brigette (don't remember name) who also provided excellent service. What the ladies lacked in looks they more than make up for in service, genuine GFE save for the CBJ. What I did not like is that the second lady tried to scam me by quoting 250 k, thinking I did not know the going rate.
Princesitas (Carrera 15 #116-59): My go to place. Only 3-4 ladies at any time, but always at least 1 hottie. Never had a bad service here. Tried 2 ladies on 2 visits, one a skinny hottie, and another with a big bootie (I think Alejandra) who was a very sensual performer. Gave an interesting massage, where the chin massages, while the titties do the mine sweep. Enjoyable.
Summary: My best experience in Colombia to date. All encounters gave enthusiastic GFE (DFK and all), except for the Mezzanine lady and the skinny one from Princesitas. I would have expected the opposite given the present circumstances. All take-outs, and even one spa lady gave BBBJ without asking. Not sure whether the pandemic made the ladies hornier or what.
Also, thanks to Mr Enternational's intel, covid testing for travel was a breeze (for 80 k). Address is Autopista Norte #86-65.[/QUOTE]I'm glad there is an update on the casas especially Mezzanine. I had a great time there though the rooms are ridiculously small and I hate getting mobbed (it always seemed there were four or five ladies at the last door and they always mob you. Last time I was there one of them had on an angel outfit LOL).
Interestingly Princesitas is right down the street from the Wing Stop where I am convinced my credit card info was stolen and someone attempted to charge Amazon products.
I'm still trying to decide where to go for a week. Bogota was great but outside of the casas and SW's there was nothing to do. I wish Cartegena had the same scene. It would be nice to go to the beach in between girls.
Showdown.
[QUOTE=Kib123;2560653]Sampled a few agencies recently and here's my experience for those interested:
La Celestina: seems to be popular in Colombia forums. They responded very quickly to inquiries. However, most ladies listed as available on the site are actually not available. Curiously, they asked for a 50 k deposit before they sent the lady over. Their claim was that it was for the 'safety' of the girl. Felt like those listcrawler scammers, so I moved on.
Schoolmodelscol (on twitter): Second time using this agency. Very efficient overall. The most accurate in terms of the ladies pics and ages matching real life experience; they don't fudge age or use dated pics like almost every other agency. They are also very helpful in working with you to select someone who meets your needs. However they are pricey, 100 USD minimum damage per h. Used it twice, and both were as advertised. Highly recommended if you can afford it.
Escortbogota ([URL]escortsbogota.com.co[/URL]): Also responded very quickly to inquiries. Most of the ladies on the web were available. They also send face pics of your shortlist upon request. Prices are listed for each lady on the site, but additional 20 k is charged for taxi. Selected Marcela based on intel I scanned off of local Bogota forums. She was tiny (about 5 feet). Turned out to be the highlight of the entire trip. May be the horniest woman I ever met in my life. Highly recommended, but not if you have a heart condition. Total damage 260 k..[/QUOTE]Was [URL]escortsbogota.com.co[/URL] outcall only? Which hotel did you stay at?
Better than ever or Just as Great as ever. Lockdown is over for now.
So many hot girls-- You cannot bang just one! So many hot ass college types. Last time before tonight I smashed 3 hotties one twice. Probably 200+ streetie sweeties tonight.
Recently read some post that the guy only saw ugly girls-- I do not know where this guy was? Maybe in a cheap stroll as there is one on the other side of Caracas.
Could not have been SF proper.
Had a weird crazy episode recently where I got in trouble shooting video out a hotel window- It got a little ugly but I was able to get out unscathed-.
I will have to write about that in detail some time.
Interesting, the police are doing more beat patrols now with 3 cops, Less Rollerball type moto cruising in pairs.
My friend Camilo who has a candy cigarette franchise on the street tells me that the recent murders were all ladrones facing street justice.
Anyhow, now is a good time to get here.
[QUOTE=Woodman09;2561205]Better than ever or Just as Great as ever. Lockdown is over for now.
So many hot girls-- You cannot bang just one! So many hot ass college types. Last time before tonight I smashed 3 hotties one twice. Probably 200+ streetie sweeties tonight.
Recently read some post that the guy only saw ugly girls-- I do not know where this guy was? Maybe in a cheap stroll as there is one on the other side of Caracas.
Could not have been SF proper.
Had a weird crazy episode recently where I got in trouble shooting video out a hotel window- It got a little ugly but I was able to get out unscathed-.
I will have to write about that in detail some time.
Interesting, the police are doing more beat patrols now with 3 cops, Less Rollerball type moto cruising in pairs.
My friend Camilo who has a candy cigarette franchise on the street tells me that the recent murders were all ladrones facing street justice.
Anyhow, now is a good time to get here.[/QUOTE]Great news Woodman!
Damn with the protests finally looking like it's the steam has been dissipating and the lock-downs / curfews loosening up a bit I need to get some of that 'hot ass college types' and as you always do you never have any problem sharing.
Much love and respect to all!
The Tall Man.
[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2561343]Great news Woodman!
Damn with the protests finally looking like it's the steam has been dissipating and the lock-downs / curfews loosening up a bit I need to get some of that 'hot ass college types' and as you always do you never have any problem sharing.
Much love and respect to all!
The Tall Man.[/QUOTE]Now if you could just find a spot to do the deed with a Santa Fe sweetie and didn't have to worry about someone knocking on the door two minutes after you enter.
That alone killed Santa Fe for me.
Showdown.
[QUOTE=Woodman09;2561205]Better than ever or Just as Great as ever. Lockdown is over for now.
So many hot girls-- You cannot bang just one! So many hot ass college types. Last time before tonight I smashed 3 hotties one twice. Probably 200+ streetie sweeties tonight.
Recently read some post that the guy only saw ugly girls-- I do not know where this guy was? Maybe in a cheap stroll as there is one on the other side of Caracas.
Could not have been SF proper.
Had a weird crazy episode recently where I got in trouble shooting video out a hotel window- It got a little ugly but I was able to get out unscathed-.
I will have to write about that in detail some time.
Interesting, the police are doing more beat patrols now with 3 cops, Less Rollerball type moto cruising in pairs.
My friend Camilo who has a candy cigarette franchise on the street tells me that the recent murders were all ladrones facing street justice.
Anyhow, now is a good time to get here.[/QUOTE]Theres a guy on YouTube called CityWalks who has two nighttime videos of Santa Fe on his channel.
He gets threatened in the second one and told not to go back.
He said in his comments that he went back a third time and made another video but a group of the guys there beat him up and took his camera and a random woman had to beg them to stop and let him leave.
Doesn't seem to be worth the risk of filming at night there.
Guessing most of the locals know you there though Woodman, out of interest do you ever get any hassle in Santa Fe?
Nationally infections are trending down.
[QUOTE=Woodman09;2561205]Better than ever or Just as Great as ever. Lockdown is over for now.
So many hot girls-- You cannot bang just one! So many hot ass college types. Last time before tonight I smashed 3 hotties one twice. Probably 200+ streetie sweeties tonight.
Recently read some post that the guy only saw ugly girls-- I do not know where this guy was? Maybe in a cheap stroll as there is one on the other side of Caracas.
Could not have been SF proper.
Had a weird crazy episode recently where I got in trouble shooting video out a hotel window- It got a little ugly but I was able to get out unscathed-.
I will have to write about that in detail some time.
Interesting, the police are doing more beat patrols now with 3 cops, Less Rollerball type moto cruising in pairs.
My friend Camilo who has a candy cigarette franchise on the street tells me that the recent murders were all ladrones facing street justice.
Anyhow, now is a good time to get here.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Showdown;2561386]Now if you could just find a spot to do the deed with a Santa Fe sweetie and didn't have to worry about someone knocking on the door two minutes after you enter.
That alone killed Santa Fe for me.
Showdown.[/QUOTE]Honestly, I have rarely had that problem-- Always seem to get 15+ minutes Sometimes the knock never comes. Sometimes I get a girl who will just stop at the knock.
All of my GFs let me continue for a few minutes so I can finish.
When I go into the room I'm getting down to business pretty quick. 2-3 minutes of foreplay than I stand on the bed for oral 2-3 minutes.
And then missionary, I like to bend their legs back and pile drive2-3 minutes. Finally flipping them over for doggie and then lower doggie all flattened out.
A lot of girls I know like domination.
--hair pulling, stincking my fingers in their mouth-- booty slapping-- pretend choking, Lotsa Fun.
[QUOTE=Kib123;2560653]Sampled a few agencies recently and here's my experience for those interested:
La Celestina: seems to be popular in Colombia forums. They responded very quickly to inquiries. However, most ladies listed as available on the site are actually not available. Curiously, they asked for a 50 k deposit before they sent the lady over. Their claim was that it was for the 'safety' of the girl. Felt like those listcrawler scammers, so I moved on.[/QUOTE]I'm surprised La Celestina asked for a deposit. Did you speak with them in Spanish and where did you call the girl to? They have never asked me for a deposit and they are pretty well reputed, at least in Bogota. I can vouch that they are a legit agency but I can tell you from experience that a lot of those girls are available on the other prepago sites for lower rates. The advantage of using them is that the pictures they post are fairly accurate but some of them are a couple of months old or have airbrushed tattoos.
What do you guys say to the girls in Santa Fe who are wearing masks if you want to see their faces?
I think the following questions would be appropriate, but I hope to hear from someone with actual experience:
- Puedes quitar el tapabocas por un momento para que pueda ver tu rostro?
(Can you remove your mask for a moment so I can see your face?
- Puedes mostrarme una foto de tu rostro?
(Can you show me a photo of your face?
[QUOTE=Trim1;2561570]What do you guys say to the girls in Santa Fe who are wearing masks if you want to see their faces?
I think the following questions would be appropriate, but I hope to hear from someone with actual experience:
- Puedes quitar el tapabocas por un momento para que pueda ver tu rostro?
(Can you remove your mask for a moment so I can see your face?
- Puedes mostrarme una foto de tu rostro?
(Can you show me a photo of your face?[/QUOTE]You answered your own question. I would say take that shit off. I am not fucking anybody that I can not see. But that is just my personality.
[QUOTE=Trim1;2561570]What do you guys say to the girls in Santa Fe who are wearing masks if you want to see their faces?
I think the following questions would be appropriate, but I hope to hear from someone with actual experience:
- Puedes quitar el tapabocas por un momento para que pueda ver tu rostro?
(Can you remove your mask for a moment so I can see your face?
- Puedes mostrarme una foto de tu rostro?
(Can you show me a photo of your face?[/QUOTE]Some girls look better with the face mask on. Especially if they have jagged teeth!
[QUOTE=Dg8787;2561651]Some girls look better with the face mask on. Especially if they have jagged teeth![/QUOTE]Not necessarily the girls I would want hehe.
[QUOTE=DandyMan51;2561502]I'm surprised La Celestina asked for a deposit. Did you speak with them in Spanish and where did you call the girl to? They have never asked me for a deposit and they are pretty well reputed, at least in Bogota. I can vouch that they are a legit agency but I can tell you from experience that a lot of those girls are available on the other prepago sites for lower rates. The advantage of using them is that the pictures they post are fairly accurate but some of them are a couple of months old or have airbrushed tattoos.[/QUOTE]I was surprised too because I never saw this mentioned anywhere. I don't speak Spanish, so was using Google translated messaging. Also I was staying at a high end joint in Chapinero, so no real 'safety' concern. The WhatsApp operator indicated they require deposit from all first time clients.
[QUOTE=DeepXliv;2561659]Not necessarily the girls I would want hehe.[/QUOTE]Some have fine bodies! Wish I had some masks back then in the high school years. I would have fucked a few more.
[QUOTE=NRandom940;2561126]Was [URL]escortsbogota.com.co[/URL] outcall only? Which hotel did you stay at?[/QUOTE]I would assume they have a designated incall for those interested, like most agencies in Bogota. Just inquire.
For hotel, I personally like to sample multiple places on any visit. I get bored easily staying in the same place for more than 3 nights. The best value I found this round was Embassy Suites. Excellent rates that include good breakfast and evening adult beverages daily, plus it was also the most girl friendly. Also very nice location with great restaurants and coffee joints. Just book for 2 (same price as 1) so you don't sweat about whether you will be charged for extra guest.
[QUOTE=Kib123;2561676]I would assume they have a designated incall for those interested, like most agencies in Bogota. Just inquire.
For hotel, I personally like to sample multiple places on any visit. I get bored easily staying in the same place for more than 3 nights. The best value I found this round was Embassy Suites. Excellent rates that include good breakfast and evening adult beverages daily, plus it was also the most girl friendly. Also very nice location with great restaurants and coffee joints. Just book for 2 (same price as 1) so you don't sweat about whether you will be charged for extra guest.[/QUOTE]Just to be clear this is the Embassy Suites you are referencing? [URL]https://goo.gl/maps/7KW75e4Pqi5WsawU7[/URL].
I am not going to stay near Santa Fe this time around and want to be center to alot of the casas. If this is the location you are referencing it seems to be in the middle of some nice places to see the ladies.
Showdown.
[QUOTE=Kib123;2561667]I was surprised too because I never saw this mentioned anywhere. I don't speak Spanish, so was using Google translated messaging. Also I was staying at a high end joint in Chapinero, so no real 'safety' concern. The WhatsApp operator indicated they require deposit from all first time clients.[/QUOTE]Odd. My Spanish is OK but I also use google translate to make sure I am not making any silly mistakes. Maybe next time use telegram (I have always had better responses from them with it) or use a Colombian phone number (if you haven't been already). Of course, it may also have just been chance that you got an operator like that.
[QUOTE=Woodman09;2561205]Better than ever or Just as Great as ever. Lockdown is over for now.
.[/QUOTE]Woodman you have my respect but I was looking for other resources to validate what you said and I cannot find it. Even Google can't give me updated information on the current lock down As of the last week.
[QUOTE=GrownMan1;2561765]Woodman you have my respect but I was looking for other resources to validate what you said and I cannot find it. Even Google can't give me updated information on the current lock down As of the last week.[/QUOTE]Curfew is from 11 pm to 4 am and is done with on the 24th.
Toque de queda en Bogotá.
A inicios de la semana, el Distrito dio a conocer las medidas preventivas que se extenderían en Bogotá hasta el próximo 24 de mayo, dentro de las cuales se encuentra el toque de queda nocturno. Para la noche de este 21 de mayo, LOS ciudadanos no podráand circular por las calles a partir de las 11:00 pm why hasta las 4:00 am de mañana sábado. Así mismo, con el ánimo de que no haya nadie circulando desde el inicio de la norma, LOS locales comerciales deberáand cerrar sus puertas a más tardar a las 10:00 pm.
[URL]https://colombia.as.com/colombia/2021/05/21/actualidad/1621602998_214134.amp.html[/URL]
[QUOTE=GrownMan1;2561765]Woodman you have my respect but I was looking for other resources to validate what you said and I cannot find it. Even Google can't give me updated information on the current lock down As of the last week.[/QUOTE]LOL, yeah I don't stay out that late. I can tell you though the clubs are open all night, some anyhow.
[QUOTE=Showdown;2561721]Just to be clear this is the Embassy Suites you are referencing? [URL]https://goo.gl/maps/7KW75e4Pqi5WsawU7[/URL].
I am not going to stay near Santa Fe this time around and want to be center to alot of the casas. If this is the location you are referencing it seems to be in the middle of some nice places to see the ladies.
Showdown.[/QUOTE]Yeah that's the one. Typical setup as the US counterparts, but with better breakfast.
[QUOTE=GrownMan1;2561765]Woodman you have my respect but I was looking for other resources to validate what you said and I cannot find it. Even Google can't give me updated information on the current lock down As of the last week.[/QUOTE]At least in santafe / centro. no mask/mask on chin usually. police are there and dont care. Been smashing 4 vennies a day, I like them a lot more than rolas. Warmup the first one and second one I bust. Make sure you ask the 20 min room and not the 15 min room. They are charging 30-35 k including room. i can vouch for woodmans' intel, though quite unnecessary as his reputation precedes him
I don't go out past 10 either, but it's relatively safe. Ymmv depending on looks. But as far as mongering goes it is in full swing my friend. Tons of 8's all over. . esp by calle 19 carr 24ish, then work towards calle 16 and the perimeter of carr 20. at least 50+ girls that whole zone. watch out for underage, tons out there.
[QUOTE=JohnnyWalker55;2561926]At least in santafe / centro. no mask/mask on chin usually. police are there and dont care. Been smashing 4 vennies a day, I like them a lot more than rolas. Warmup the first one and second one I bust. Make sure you ask the 20 min room and not the 15 min room. They are charging 30-35 k including room. i can vouch for woodmans' intel, though quite unnecessary as his reputation precedes him
[/QUOTE]Calle 23 and Cr 15 to CR 16 and Calle 24 and CR 15 are the Cutie Corners!
I went to another place for antigen test last week. A guy stuck, and almost hit, the stick in each nostril too harsh, and it hurt a lot. If it didn't happen to you, or other members, I would like to visit the clinic you visited next time.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2550627]I spent time online yesterday looking for a place to take the covid test. Everywhere was closed on Sunday (except for the airport which was full), but I managed to make reservations at 2 different Synlabs because I did not know if I would leave Chapinero and go stay downtown or not. Most places were wither 140,000 or 150,000. I had found one place for 100,000 but whenever I tried to pay online for that place it would give me an error message.
My ex-girlfriend from Cali flew back home last night so I had my nurse come over. I told her that I had to find a place to get a covid test. She told me that Cendiatra was good. No appointment needed. Takes 1 hour. And best of all 80,000 pesos.
This morning at 10:30 she left to go to a meeting. I booked a hotel near Atlantis Mall and called Cabify to take me to the clinic. We passed one and I shouted out. He said chill, you are in good hands. He dropped me off at the address. I went in and told the ladies I needed an antigen test. They said they did not do covid tests there, but gave me a slip of paper with another address. I asked if that was the one I had just passed and she said yes..[/QUOTE]
Do any Bogota labs offer the Saliva sample PCR test, where all you do is spit in a cup? If not, how long do they stick the cotton swab down / up your nose?
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2550627]I spent time online yesterday looking for a place to take the covid test. Everywhere was closed on Sunday (except for the airport which was full), but I managed to make reservations at 2 different Synlabs because I did not know if I would leave Chapinero and go stay downtown or not. Most places were wither 140,000 or 150,000. I had found one place for 100,000 but whenever I tried to pay online for that place it would give me an error message.
My ex-girlfriend from Cali flew back home last night so I had my nurse come over. I told her that I had to find a place to get a covid test. She told me that Cendiatra was good. No appointment needed. Takes 1 hour. And best of all 80,000 pesos.
This morning at 10:30 she left to go to a meeting. I booked a hotel near Atlantis Mall and called Cabify to take me to the clinic. We passed one and I shouted out. He said chill, you are in good hands. He dropped me off at the address. I went in and told the ladies I needed an antigen test. They said they did not do covid tests there, but gave me a slip of paper with another address. I asked if that was the one I had just passed and she said yes.
It was raining a little, but I walked the few blocks with my suitcase back to the other location. I arrived at 12:15. There was one person being served at the counter and the line was outside. There was one guy in front of me. Other people lined up behind me. When the guy in front of me went some moron pulled up and went inside and got behind him ignoring the line. I did not say anything to him although I usually would.
I told the lady I was there for an antigen test. She asked if it was for some company or if I was doing it on my own. I gave her my passport and email and 80,000 pesos. She gave me a sheet to fill out about symptoms and if I had been anywhere that has covid or around anyone with covid. I was to fill that out and hand it to the lab tech that was going to call me.
The lab tech called and I went into the back room and sat in the chair. She had me lower my mask below my nose. She stuck the swab in each nostril and told me they would call me back to the desk with the results in 15 minutes. I went back out to wait and in 14 minutes they called me with the results. I was out of there at 12:59. So no appointment, 80,000 pesos, and 44 minutes arrival until departure.
Now I am at my hotel. I am going to catch a Cabify down to Santa Fe to see what is going on. Bogota is pretty much a ghost town. Some restaurants are open, but they are take away only. Everything else besides health centers and I guess supermarkets and convenience stores is closed.[/QUOTE]I see you mentioned the airport for a covid test. I am coming from San Andres and I don't know if there is a testing sight on the island. If there is not then I would need a test at the airport as I have a 3 hour layover which would make it tough to leave the airport for a test in town.
If there is a test spot on the Island then no problem.
[QUOTE=JohnGault;2562331]I see you mentioned the airport for a covid test. I am coming from San Andres and I don't know if there is a testing sight on the island. If there is not then I would need a test at the airport as I have a 3 hour layover which would make it tough to leave the airport for a test in town.
If there is a test spot on the Island then no problem.[/QUOTE]In Bogota I recommend [URL]https://vitalea.com/[/URL]#/ home.
They are located on Cra 11 and Calle 93 a stones throw from Parque 93.
I had good luck here. My PCR test I got in the states was not accepted in Bogota so I got a pcr test here in Bogota and I was able to avoid self quarantine and continue on the Parque Tyrona and when I returned to Bogota I got the antigen test. I think it was $40 dollars or many be a few bucks less. The manager of the lab, Steve was excellent, he even gave me his cell phone number so I could contact him during the Semana Santa holiday when they were closed.
[QUOTE=LatinaLover#1;2562351]My PCR test I got in the states was not accepted in Bogota so I got a pcr test here in Bogota and I was able to avoid self quarantine and continue on the Parque Tyrona and when I returned to Bogota I got the antigen test.[/QUOTE]Why wasn't your PCR test accepted? Do you have any advice for those of us who will be taking a PCR test in the USA for a trip to Colombia?
[QUOTE=LatinaLover#1;2562351]My PCR test I got in the states was not accepted in Bogota so I got a pcr test here in Bogota and I was able to avoid self quarantine .[/QUOTE]Why wasn't your PCR test accepted? They only look for 4 things: name, date, PCR, negative.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2562371]Why wasn't your PCR test accepted? They only look for 4 things: name, date, PCR, negative.[/QUOTE]Only sent me an antigen test and I know I needed a PCR but I was careless and didn't look it over close enough before I got to the airport and in the last minute I was trying to reach someone who could help me in the lab here in the USA and she useless. So I boarded the flight knowing I would need to self quarantine in Colombia until I got the test. It all worked out ok. When I got back the owner of the lab here in South Carolina was very apologetic. In fact he gave me Carte Blanche in his optical store next to his pharmacy, eye exam, lenses, frames and a free PCR test in 2 weeks before I leave again for Bogota.
[QUOTE=LatinaLover#1;2562455]Only sent me an antigen test and I know I needed a PCR but I was careless and didn't look it over close enough before I got to the airport and in the last minute I was trying to reach someone who could help me in the lab here in the USA and she useless. So I boarded the flight knowing I would need to self quarantine in Colombia until I got the test. It all worked out ok. When I got back the owner of the lab here in South Carolina was very apologetic. In fact he gave me Carte Blanche in his optical store next to his pharmacy, eye exam, lenses, frames and a free PCR test in 2 weeks before I leave again for Bogota.[/QUOTE]That's a common mistake. The last time I was in Columbia I met several people at the airport that made that mistake. On one occasion a man took the antigen test however Columbia wouldn't except it so he had to quarantine. He decided after five days he did not want to continue the quarantine. He went to take an antigen test to go back to the US. However, because he was still under quarantine; he had to produce a negative PCR test to leave Cartagena or Finish out his quarantine.
He missed his flight Because he could not get the PCR Within the time of his flight departure.
[QUOTE=Woodman09;2561941]Calle 23 and Cr 15 to CR 16 and Calle 24 and CR 15 are the Cutie Corners![/QUOTE]Hey Woodman it would hep if you could post better pics of the women and their boyfriends, I'm sure. Better pics, if you have them could help guys stay of of trouble. Thanks.
Guys I am getting confused and perhaps you can help me.
What is required (from a COVID perspective) to come in and out of Colombia? A COVID test before you leave (app, piece of paper etc) and another COVID test (app, piece of paper) someplace in Bogota in order to return?
Showdown.
[QUOTE=JohnGault;2562331] I am coming from San Andres [/QUOTE]How was it there? OK for a single guy or best with a companion? Have a feeling mostly families and couples but maybe I'm wrong.
If I got fully vaccinated, do I still need to produce these tests, or if I show my vaccination proof, I'm all good?
[QUOTE=ChuchoLoco;2562510]How was it there? OK for a single guy or best with a companion? Have a feeling mostly families and couples but maybe I'm wrong.[/QUOTE]Correct. Families and couples. Do not go alone. Great place and not as expensive as I thought it would be. You will think it is more Jamaica and not Colombia. If it was not for the license plates on the cars, you would not know it is Colombia. Pretty much everybody is Black speaks English.
[QUOTE=HelloIm;2562513]If I got fully vaccinated, do I still need to produce these tests, or if I show my vaccination proof, I'm all good?[/QUOTE]I do not know anywhere in the world that proof of vaccination means anything. That is just a souvenir for you to keep. You get no special privileges.
[QUOTE=Showdown;2562474]Guys I am getting confused and perhaps you can help me.
What is required (from a COVID perspective) to come in and out of Colombia? A COVID test before you leave (app, piece of paper etc) and another COVID test (app, piece of paper) someplace in Bogota in order to return?
Showdown.[/QUOTE]Come in: 1. Negative PCR test. 2. Immigration document.
Go out: 1. Immigration document + whatever else is required for the country you are going to.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2562579]Correct. Families and couples. Do not go alone. Great place and not as expensive as I thought it would be. You will think it is more Jamaica and not Colombia. If it was not for the license plates on the cars, you would not know it is Colombia. Pretty much everybody is Black speaks English.[/QUOTE]Sounds pretty good, will have to find a compatible and deserving companion. I like that island attitude. Thanks for the 411.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2562371]Why wasn't your PCR test accepted? They only look for 4 things: name, date, PCR, negative.[/QUOTE]Had a form where you could check off the applicable box, Antigen, PCR ect. I never looked that close and it was my fault I didn't catch it in time, when I was fully aware I needed a PCR. I've been through the process enough times during the pandemic, 4 to Colombia so I should know better.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2562580]I do not know anywhere in the world that proof of vaccination means anything. That is just a souvenir for you to keep. You get no special privileges.[/QUOTE]You can now enter Greece if you are fully vaccinated in lieu of the COVID test. That seems to be some kind of privilege especially if your COVID Vaccination was free.
[QUOTE=JohnGault;2562331]I see you mentioned the airport for a covid test. I am coming from San Andres and I don't know if there is a testing sight on the island. If there is not then I would need a test at the airport as I have a 3 hour layover which would make it tough to leave the airport for a test in town.
If there is a test spot on the Island then no problem.[/QUOTE]I took the COVID test at Bogota airport about 2 weeks ago at the SYNLAB building. It was easy and convenient. I didn't even have an appointment. Results were emailed to me in 2 hours. They take card or cash.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2562580]I do not know anywhere in the world that proof of vaccination means anything. That is just a souvenir for you to keep. You get no special privileges.[/QUOTE]Even today you can go to: Belize, Greece, Iceland, Croatia, Montenegro and a few other countries, and [B]if you're fully vaccinated -- no tests are required for entry[/B]. Soon, the EU will open up too.
[QUOTE=ChuchoLoco;2562510]How was it there? OK for a single guy or best with a companion? Have a feeling mostly families and couples but maybe I'm wrong.[/QUOTE]My mistake. I should of said I'm will be coming from ADZ.
[QUOTE=Xpartan;2562676]Even today you can go to: Belize, Greece, Iceland, Croatia, Montenegro and a few other countries, and [B]if you're fully vaccinated -- no tests are required for entry[/B]. Soon, the EU will open up too.[/QUOTE]Add Ecuador to the list. I was there in early May with only my vaccine card.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2562583]Come in: 1. Negative PCR test. 2. Immigration document.
Go out: 1. Immigration document + whatever else is required for the country you are going to.[/QUOTE]By immigration document I am sure you mean passport. Thats obvious I need that. And I am returning to the US.
[QUOTE=Showdown;2562800]By immigration document I am sure you mean passport. Thats obvious I need that. And I am returning to the US.[/QUOTE]No. I mean the form that you have to fill out online. For the USA you need antigen or PCR test.
So I just met this SuperCute redhead Venezolana white girl at one of the clubs-- she is maybe 5', 90 lbs, 22 yo.
HS dreamgirl She knows how to take care of me.
So compliant accept no BBBJ yet. What I like is she is a little sex-bomb. She likes me dominating her.
She is a petite girl and has trouble taking my big dick, LOL, She could not take doggie style but we figured out if I bang her from behind.
While she is flattened out she can handle it and seems to really enjoy. She was very enthusiastic in helping me figure out the best way to bang her.
I'm her GringoDaddy.
I even busted the condom and came in her and she was not even mad-- That was hot, banging her raw.
Did 2 sessions with her Saturday and 2 sessions with her last night-- I really like the clubs because you can find a a real hot girl, bang her, party with her downstairs and bang her again.
I was paying 50-60 mil a session.
So many hot girls in the street, It's all good.
Photos of various SG hotel rooms.
[URL]https://drive.google.com/file/d/1tbT-clMmubsEfkuE8JacSuVVz2O6k0yl/view?usp=sharing[/URL]
[URL]https://drive.google.com/file/d/1td5_yfvLrBNW3n6ecmRtDYHnS_M70CYd/view?usp=sharing[/URL]
[URL]https://drive.google.com/file/d/1tdmGJdhISvW9DXLfFSFASaNwZVri1W0E/view?usp=sharing[/URL]
[QUOTE=Xpartan;2562676]Even today you can go to: Belize, Greece, Iceland, Croatia, Montenegro and a few other countries, and [B]if you're fully vaccinated -- no tests are required for entry[/B]. Soon, the EU will open up too.[/QUOTE]Yep, today I read that the Prime Minister of Spain said June 7th, the day the COVID vaccinated could begin to enter his country, untested.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2562869]No. I mean the form that you have to fill out online. For the USA you need antigen or PCR test.[/QUOTE]Imig Colombia.
[QUOTE=JohnGault;2562785]Add Ecuador to the list. I was there in early May with only my vaccine card.[/QUOTE]Yeah, Ecuador too, except still need a test for Galapagos. Also Guatemala, Georgia, Spain as Balboa noticed. Italy is also accessible on special vaccinated flights. I think most countries will open up pretty soon to vaccinated travelers or face huge losses from the lack of tourism. Get those jabs, fellas, there is no downside. At least science says so. Not having to go through these PCR tests when you don't know if you get them in time, is a huge deal, IMHO.
[QUOTE=Xpartan;2562939]Yeah, Ecuador too, except still need a test for Galapagos. Also Guatemala, Georgia, Spain as Balboa noticed. Italy is also accessible on special vaccinated flights. I think most countries will open up pretty soon to vaccinated travelers or face huge losses from the lack of tourism. Get those jabs, fellas, there is no downside. At least science says so. Not having to go through these PCR tests when you don't know if you get them in time, is a huge deal, IMHO.[/QUOTE]Trying to explain to antivaxers how immunity works is same as explaining to a 4 years old why the moon does not fall down to the earth.
[QUOTE=BigButtDetecto;2562996]Trying to explain to antivaxers how immunity works is same as explaining to a 4 years old why the moon does not fall down to the earth.[/QUOTE]You win the internet today!
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[QUOTE=IronQuinn;2563166]Even a Chino looks big when they go for girls who look like little boys. I know there's plenty of curvy dark meat in SF if you want a real woman. You should try it sometime.[/QUOTE]I've seen what you're talking about that shit makes me want to vomit.
No gracias.
Real woman? Maybe real land whale? Or real buffalo?
Hey buddy, trying to send you a PM but your inbox is full.
[QUOTE=Woodman09;2562905]So I just met this SuperCute redhead Venezolana white girl at one of the clubs-- she is maybe 5', 90 lbs, 22 yo.
HS dreamgirl She knows how to take care of me.
So compliant accept no BBBJ yet. What I like is she is a little sex-bomb. She likes me dominating her.
She is a petite girl and has trouble taking my big dick, LOL, She could not take doggie style but we figured out if I bang her from behind.
While she is flattened out she can handle it and seems to really enjoy. She was very enthusiastic in helping me figure out the best way to bang her.
I'm her GringoDaddy.
I even busted the condom and came in her and she was not even mad-- That was hot, banging her raw.
Did 2 sessions with her Saturday and 2 sessions with her last night-- I really like the clubs because you can find a a real hot girl, bang her, party with her downstairs and bang her again.
I was paying 50-60 mil a session.
So many hot girls in the street, It's all good.
Photos of various SG hotel rooms.
[URL]https://drive.google.com/file/d/1tbT-clMmubsEfkuE8JacSuVVz2O6k0yl/view?usp=sharing[/URL]
[URL]https://drive.google.com/file/d/1td5_yfvLrBNW3n6ecmRtDYHnS_M70CYd/view?usp=sharing[/URL]
[URL]https://drive.google.com/file/d/1tdmGJdhISvW9DXLfFSFASaNwZVri1W0E/view?usp=sharing[/URL][/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=JohnnyO;2563241]Hey buddy, trying to send you a PM but your inbox is full.[/QUOTE]OK, I PMed you also, I PMed.
[QUOTE=PVMonger;2563151]You win the internet today![/QUOTE]The Winners of the Covid Vax Lotto do Not Get Rich.
[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2563222]I've seen what you're talking about that shit makes me want to vomit.
No gracias.
Real woman? Maybe real land whale? Or real buffalo?[/QUOTE]I have so many GFs in Santa Fe-- Skinny girls, plumpers-- That's the Beauty of Santa Fe-- Fantastic variety-- I Love Boning FatGirls!
[QUOTE=Woodman09;2563260]The Winners of the Covid Vax Lotto do Not Get Rich.[/QUOTE]It does carry a lifetime guarantee!
[QUOTE=BigButtDetecto;2562996]Trying to explain to antivaxers how immunity works is same as explaining to a 4 years old why the moon does not fall down to the earth.[/QUOTE]BBD, I think you are trying to make fun of Republicans who are skeptical of scientists. Given what was peddled as the origins of the virus, a bat bit a pangolin and never identified pangolin ran 1,000 miles to a wet market, your Democrat douche method of pushing "science" has lost all credibility. The alternate theory, that the Chinese were working on gain of function with coronavirus in the lab, is IMO a million times more likely.
So we have the same "scientists" now pushing immunization? I got my vaccine, and I want others to get it, but your method calling antivaxxers stupid is not the way to get it done. Your Democratic douche arrogance is ridiculous and that you are bringing that douche arrogance to a hooker board shows how warped you are. Quit being so political and so arrogant.
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2563365]So we have the same "scientists" now pushing immunization? I got my vaccine, and I want others to get it, but your method calling antivaxxers stupid is not the way to get it done. Your Democratic douche arrogance is ridiculous and that you are bringing that douche arrogance to a hooker board shows how warped you are. Quit being so political and so arrogant.[/QUOTE]LOL, RIP Marvin Hagler.
[QUOTE=SilverTurtle;2562279]I went to another place for antigen test last week. A guy stuck, and almost hit, the stick in each nostril too harsh, and it hurt a lot. If it didn't happen to you, or other members, I would like to visit the clinic you visited next time.[/QUOTE]FYI, looks like at least this lab is doing a saliva test. Not sure if you just spit in a cup or they make you deep throat a cotton swab. Email is on the page, so feel free to reach out to them:
[URL]https://medicinaintegrativabogota.com/toma-de-muestra-covid-19[/URL]
Anyone find or know of any others? No way I'm getting a nasal test:
https://youtu.be/DI56XVPb_8s
[QUOTE=BigButtDetecto;2562996]Trying to explain to antivaxers how immunity works is same as explaining to a 4 years old why the moon does not fall down to the earth.[/QUOTE]I'm not trying to "bridge the great divide. " I just believe in the power of self-interest. If a vaccine opens a locked door or at least helps you avoid a PCR test that may or may not arrive in time for your flight, some will take it even if they don't believe in science or medicine. Others won't no matter what. To each their own.
[QUOTE=Xpartan;2563448]I'm not trying to "bridge the great divide. " I just believe in the power of self-interest. If a vaccine opens a locked door or at least helps you avoid a PCR test that may or may not arrive in time for your flight, some will take it even if they don't believe in science or medicine. Others won't no matter what. To each their own.[/QUOTE]I just want the card and no vax.
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2563365]BBD, I think you are trying to make fun of Republicans who are skeptical of scientists. Given what was peddled as the origins of the virus, a bat bit a pangolin and never identified pangolin ran 1,000 miles to a wet market, your Democrat douche method of pushing "science" has lost all credibility. The alternate theory, that the Chinese were working on gain of function with coronavirus in the lab, is IMO a million times more likely.
So we have the same "scientists" now pushing immunization? I got my vaccine, and I want others to get it, but your method calling antivaxxers stupid is not the way to get it done. Your Democratic douche arrogance is ridiculous and that you are bringing that douche arrogance to a hooker board shows how warped you are. Quit being so political and so arrogant.[/QUOTE]There are anti vaxxers on the left and the right, the hippie types that don't like vaxs or chlorine etc.
I'm guessing there are more anti vaxxers on the left than the right.
BTW I recd my Moderna vax in Sept LOL.
Science and politics don't mix.
Once an issue enters the political realm, it is no longer scientific.
It has been tainted.
Politics destroy the credibility of anything it comes in contact with, left or right.
BTW I hate both parties LOL.
Depending on the day of the week.
Sometimes one more than the other.
I am very pro vax but I don't want the govt telling me what to do.
What turd come up with the bullshit "idea" of passports for travel?
[QUOTE=Xpartan;2563448]I'm not trying to "bridge the great divide. " I just believe in the power of self-interest. If a vaccine opens a locked door or at least helps you avoid a PCR test that may or may not arrive in time for your flight, some will take it even if they don't believe in science or medicine. Others won't no matter what. To each their own.[/QUOTE]That is my concern also. " A PCR test that may or may not arrive in time for your flight. ".
The fools in charge want everyone to get the shots but offer no incentive to get them to people who are afraid of possible long term side effects. Gee how about the USA letting you in if you have proof of a vaccine card?
[QUOTE=JohnGault;2563489]That is my concern also. " A PCR test that may or may not arrive in time for your flight. ".
The fools in charge want everyone to get the shots but offer no incentive to get them to people who are afraid of possible long term side effects. Gee how about the USA letting you in if you have proof of a vaccine card?[/QUOTE]I would think the incentive is to live and/or not get sick. Or do you mean bribe or payment? I am not getting any shots and make my own tests and vaccine card, so something not arriving in time is not my concern. It is not getting the vaccine that will open a locked door or help you avoid a PCR test, but PROOF that you have gotten the vaccine that will.
[QUOTE=JohnGault;2563489]
The fools in charge want everyone to get the shots but offer no incentive to get them to people who are afraid of possible long term side effects. [/QUOTE]When Pfizzer came with Viagra, you didn't have any concern about any kind of long term side effects, did you??
[QUOTE=Routard;2563519]When Pfizzer came with Viagra, you didn't have any concern about any kind of long term side effects, did you??[/QUOTE]Yeah, I did. I read the insert, got scared, and threw the Viagra pills in the toilet. Problem was my toilet seat would not come down for 4 hours.
[QUOTE=Routard;2563519]When Pfizzer came with Viagra, you didn't have any concern about any kind of long term side effects, did you??[/QUOTE]Viagra is a Full Tested drug the Vax is Not-- RIP Marvin Hagler.
[QUOTE=Woodman09;2563462]I just want the card and no vax.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2563502]I would think the incentive is to live and/or not get sick. Or do you mean bribe or payment? I am not getting any shots and make my own tests and vaccine card, so something not arriving in time is not my concern. It is not getting the vaccine that will open a locked door or help you avoid a PCR test, but PROOF that you have gotten the vaccine that will.[/QUOTE]Aside from morality or rather immorality, people have found themselves in deep shit for doing that.
[URL]https://travelnoire.com/7-charged-us-virgin-islands-fake-covid-test[/URL]
[URL]https://www.npr.org/2021/05/08/994967439/california-man-arrested-in-suspected-fake-covid-19-vaccine-card-operation[/URL]
Maybe the risk is small, but why in the holy name of crap risk it at all?
Do J&J. One painless shot and you're done.
Why do people love drama so much?
[QUOTE=Routard;2563519]When Pfizzer came with Viagra, you didn't have any concern about any kind of long term side effects, did you??[/QUOTE]I have no concern for long term side effects as I already got both my shots.
My point is I feel the USA should honor the vaccine card instead of having to jump thru hoops with all these tests.
I think if the USA wants heard immunity then a small incentive like giving the Vaccine card a little weight would make some people take the vaccine.
To tell the truth the only reason I took the shots was in the hope it would help me to travel. When I went to Ecuador I was able to get in the country with my card.
[QUOTE=Routard;2563519]When Pfizzer came with Viagra, you didn't have any concern about any kind of long term side effects, did you??[/QUOTE]My dick is already hanging down in the dirt. And hard all day for the past 12 years. That is long term isn't it?
Guys srsly what are we 12 years old arguing about vaccines in a Bogota working girl thread? Cmon who cares let's talk putas.
Leaving Bogota after an extended stay in santa fe. What is there to say?
I summed up the routine in the earlier posts, the talent is the best in the western hemisphere right now in that 4 block radius, beats centro mde + mexico no doubt, but Brazil gets the egde service wise... not sure about the dr talent level. if you speak spanish you will be at an advantage and if you dont vice versa... ymmv
But so many solid 8's that could be ig models going for 35 k including room it's unreal, you like to party there's all the cheap drugs you like. ask the street vendors selling candy what guy is selling what. I didn't hit any nightclubs as it interfered with work, but no matter the protests or whatever all around zona norte and la septima there were always girls on the streets.
If you like pure quantity, talent, etc. Santa fe is amazing. Not to mention the modern apartments just 5-6 blocks away with hot water, washer dryer, gym, etc.
This is the real sin city!!
[QUOTE=Xpartan;2563632]Aside from morality or rather immorality, people have found themselves in deep shit for doing that. Maybe the risk is small, but why in the holy name of crap risk it at all? Why do people love drama so much?[/QUOTE]People say the same thing about fucking hookers and even fucking regular chicks for that matter. Is it worth the risk?
All I know is that I have been to 9 countries multiple times since this thing started and have come into close contact with tens of thousands of people and have not gotten sick. Others are afraid to leave the house unless they get a "jab". At this point I see no reason to shoot myself up with some newly created vaccine because it is being said that I should or need it when I have been fine without it.
[QUOTE=JohnnyWalker55;2563823]Guys srsly what are we 12 years old arguing about vaccines in a Bogota working girl thread? Cmon who cares let's talk putas.
Leaving Bogota after an extended stay in santa fe. What is there to say?
I summed up the routine in the earlier posts, the talent is the best in the western hemisphere right now in that 4 block radius, beats centro mde + mexico no doubt, but Brazil gets the egde service wise... not sure about the dr talent level. if you speak spanish you will be at an advantage and if you dont vice versa... ymmv
But so many solid 8's that could be ig models going for 35 k including room it's unreal, you like to party there's all the cheap drugs you like. ask the street vendors selling candy what guy is selling what. I didn't hit any nightclubs as it interfered with work, but no matter the protests or whatever all around zona norte and la septima there were always girls on the streets.
If you like pure quantity, talent, etc. Santa fe is amazing. Not to mention the modern apartments just 5-6 blocks away with hot water, washer dryer, gym, etc.
This is the real sin city!![/QUOTE]I went to Santa Fe two nights a few years ago and the taxi driver who took me told me it is extremely dangerous at night and said don't walk one block off where the main clubs are.
I've walked around MDE Centro and Tijuana Zona Norte at night tons of times alone and felt safe. I dress down and look Latino though. Does anyone think Santa Fe is that much more dangerous?
I am sure its kinda safe in the daytime?
[QUOTE=JohnnyWalker55;2563823]Guys srsly what are we 12 years old arguing about vaccines in a Bogota working girl thread? Cmon who cares let's talk putas.
Leaving Bogota after an extended stay in santa fe. What is there to say?
I summed up the routine in the earlier posts, the talent is the best in the western hemisphere right now in that 4 block radius, beats centro mde + mexico no doubt, but Brazil gets the egde service wise... not sure about the dr talent level. if you speak spanish you will be at an advantage and if you dont vice versa... ymmv
But so many solid 8's that could be ig models going for 35 k including room it's unreal, you like to party there's all the cheap drugs you like. ask the street vendors selling candy what guy is selling what. I didn't hit any nightclubs as it interfered with work, but no matter the protests or whatever all around zona norte and la septima there were always girls on the streets.
If you like pure quantity, talent, etc. Santa fe is amazing. Not to mention the modern apartments just 5-6 blocks away with hot water, washer dryer, gym, etc.
This is the real sin city!![/QUOTE]The forum mostly is opinion, but can you please post a foto of something you consider an 8 IG model.
I saw many below 8, maybe one 8, I really really love Latinas but not those loud mouth, she was one of those.
I'm guessing sex with her would be a boner killer even with Vita V.
I saw a couple 7's and many many 4's 5's 6's.
Yes there is quantity, the quality isn't that great, nor is the service.
I can tell you if you take a puta in SF for 35 room included, you aren't getting an 8 ig model, at least not in my book.
Thanks for the post.
If you can please post a foto for a reference point.
For anyone that's been to the ZN in Tijuana, I can say the quality is comparable.
Same BS service.
SF wins with quantity.
SF reminded me of Tijuana sans Hong Kong.
Just dirtier and more dangerous.
[QUOTE=LivingFossil;2563876]I went to Santa Fe two nights a few years ago and the taxi driver who took me told me it is extremely dangerous at night and said don't walk one block off where the main clubs are.
I've walked around MDE Centro and Tijuana Zona Norte at night tons of times alone and felt safe. I dress down and look Latino though. Does anyone think Santa Fe is that much more dangerous?
I am sure its kinda safe in the daytime?[/QUOTE]The taxi drivers tell me the same thing everytime I get dropped off at my place which was like 3 blocks from santa fe. They were surprised I stayed there. I find Colombia very classist....I would walk around at 1030pm thru centro with a spliff, dressed down, and feel fine. mde centro and tj are prettty much the same imo if you dont look like a mark
And marquis, go see for yourself. we all have different tastes brother.
[QUOTE=LivingFossil;2563876]I went to Santa Fe two nights a few years ago and the taxi driver who took me told me it is extremely dangerous at night and said don't walk one block off where the main clubs are.
I've walked around MDE Centro and Tijuana Zona Norte at night tons of times alone and felt safe. I dress down and look Latino though. Does anyone think Santa Fe is that much more dangerous?[/QUOTE]Had you asked a Tijuana or a Medellin taxi driver, then they would have said the same thing as the Bogota taxi driver. Use your own judgment and do what you are comfortable with.
My novia has told me that things are getting worse in the south. They have now resorted to destroying the traffic lights and have created total chaos and much of the south is cut off to travel, With the traffic lights out and half of the TransMilenio out of commission its a nightmare for many who live south of a certain point. These are not the common working people doing these riots. She has told me it is suspected that many are anarchists' from the likes of FARC and are paying hundreds of the displaced Venezuelans to do as much destruction to the country in an effort to take down the system of government in Colombia. If that's true, I don't see Bogota or any of the large cities getting back to normal anytime soon. One bright note, there is a March of the law abiding citizens today called the 'March of silence' in hopes of stopping the violence outnumbering the anarchists. Let's hope this beautiful country and the vast majority of Colombians can overcome this threat.
Where did you stay in Bogotá and how does the service in Sante Fe compare to MDE Centro, I ask that mainly because from the Bogota reports I get the impression of a knock on the dorr after 20 minutes which seems to happen in all short time rooms there which doesn't normally happen in MDE.
[QUOTE=JohnnyWalker55;2563823]Guys srsly what are we 12 years old arguing about vaccines in a Bogota working girl thread? Cmon who cares let's talk putas.
Leaving Bogota after an extended stay in santa fe. What is there to say?
I summed up the routine in the earlier posts, the talent is the best in the western hemisphere right now in that 4 block radius, beats centro mde + mexico no doubt, but Brazil gets the egde service wise... not sure about the dr talent level. if you speak spanish you will be at an advantage and if you dont vice versa... ymmv
But so many solid 8's that could be ig models going for 35 k including room it's unreal, you like to party there's all the cheap drugs you like. ask the street vendors selling candy what guy is selling what. I didn't hit any nightclubs as it interfered with work, but no matter the protests or whatever all around zona norte and la septima there were always girls on the streets.
If you like pure quantity, talent, etc. Santa fe is amazing. Not to mention the modern apartments just 5-6 blocks away with hot water, washer dryer, gym, etc.
This is the real sin city!![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=JohnnyWalker55;2563994]we all have different tastes brother.[/QUOTE]Yes I respect that we do, within reason LOL.
Sure some like diff body types, but I think the face is mostly what dictates a score, so an 8 to you or I.
Should be somewhere in the same galaxy.
But many many of the putas there are way to old to be hooking, at least for me.
I don't want putas in their 30's or 40's, and yes some are older than that.
I was walking past Piscina on the opposite side of the street, there was an old woman, high heels, and a bikini with no material.
Just the strings, as a bra, and just a string shaped bikini as the bottom as well, she was old, I'm not sure but I'm guessing.
Late 60's, and yes I'm a sick fuck I looked down at her snatch, completely shaved, and looked like a pug dogs face LOL.
I appreciate your report but to say lots of 8's can be misleading to some that want to visit.
Maybe you can go to IG and pull up a foto that you think represents an 8 in SF.
I think you can use 3 scores if you want, 1 for face, 1 for body, 1 for service.
If you ask me IMO the lowest scores for SF goto service and personality.
There are lots of bitchy putas out there, I'm not saying all, just too many for me.
[QUOTE=JohnnyO;2564138]Where did you stay in Bogot and how does the service in Sante Fe compare to MDE Centro, I ask that mainly because from the Bogota reports I get the impression of a knock on the dorr after 20 minutes which seems to happen in all short time rooms there which doesn't normally happen in MDE.[/QUOTE]Yup fair enough marquis, I've been to various cities in Brazil, mexico, and Colombia this year, just going off my comparisons. ID say an 8 is a good looking college chick in the states.
Johnny o, def a lot more knocking than mde centro. There they almost never knock before 30 min. Have to be clear to the girl in santa fe with the girl you want the 20 min room and you should be good for that time around 30-35 k room included, for 30 min they were upcharging 50-60 k inc room but maybe cause my accent isn't local. Though I don't get with ugly girls, at least sevens with a pretty face, no fatties. Ymmv.
[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2564174]Yes I respect that we do, within reason LOL.
Sure some like diff body types, but I think the face is mostly what dictates a score, so an 8 to you or I.
Should be somewhere in the same galaxy.
But many many of the putas there are way to old to be hooking, at least for me.
I don't want putas in their 30's or 40's, and yes some are older than that.
I was walking past Piscina on the opposite side of the street, there was an old woman, high heels, and a bikini with no material.
Just the strings, as a bra, and just a string shaped bikini as the bottom as well, she was old, I'm not sure but I'm guessing.
Late 60's, and yes I'm a sick fuck I looked down at her snatch, completely shaved, and looked like a pug dogs face LOL..[/QUOTE]Not sure where you were or when? But 90%(low estimate) of the girls in Santa Fe are 18-early 20's-- Many HS-College types.
Many recent posts from others here will corroborate this.
I just started banging a really hot girl that looks like young Bridgett Fonda.
Very few old ladies there. There is a stroll on Calle 19 and CR 13 where they are.
I have Many photos to prove it. But I do not want to post them.
[QUOTE=JohnnyWalker55;2564285]ID say an 8 is a good looking college chick in the states.[/QUOTE]That is pretty vague. The only concrete objective thing in this is college student. Without pictures 8 and good looking mean nothing, because everybody's idea of each is different. I have seen guys walking around proud to be with what I could not figure out was either a monster or a man, and I am sure vice versa.
A female comedian once said that it seems like guys find one thing that they like in a chick and they roll with that. To some guys all that matters is if she is Black, to others it only matters that she is White, to others only if she is no more than 90 pounds, and yet others if she is at least 180 pounds.
[QUOTE=Woodman09;2564366]Not sure where you were or when? But 90%(low estimate) of the girls in Santa Fe are 18-early 20's-- Many HS-College types.
Many recent posts from others here will corroborate this.
I just started banging a really hot girl that looks like young Bridgett Fonda.
Very few old ladies there. There is a stroll on Calle 19 and CR 13 where they are.
I have Many photos to prove it. But I do not want to post them.[/QUOTE]Lets define old, when I think of paying for P4P I think of Asia, where over 25 is over the hill.
In SF if you walk around the block, between 23 y 24,90% are probably over 25.
Almost all with 1, 2, or 3 babies, no gracias.
Some 25-30, many between 30-40 many over 40.
Go to BKK 99% around nana are under 25 yo.
When I'm in BKK I considered them over the hill once they say over 20 yo.
I don't want to pay for chicas with babies, I'm guessing 99% of the chicas in SF have babies and at least some baby damage.
Not the case in BKK or even Tijuana.
[QUOTE=Woodman09;2564366]Not sure where you were or when? But 90%(low estimate) of the girls in Santa Fe are 18-early 20's-- Many HS-College types.
Many recent posts from others here will corroborate this.
I just started banging a really hot girl that looks like young Bridgett Fonda.
Very few old ladies there. There is a stroll on Calle 19 and CR 13 where they are.
I have Many photos to prove it. But I do not want to post them.[/QUOTE]I think your 90% is way way off, don't get me wrong, I did very well in Bogota, just not SF.
I had a couple good sessions in SF, but even if you're counting those chicas that don't look legal to me, that number is still crazy high.
The 1st thing I ask to see their cedula, no cedula adios, they don't count to me because they shouldn't even be out there, I don't know if you are adding them in.
Also if you walk by Monaco, there are a few under 30, but the quality is pretty fucking bad over there.
I love Bogota I found some awesome gems, the food isn't as bad as some write, and either is the weather, I like the climate.
The Colombians are really nice, nicer than I expected.
Will I return, I'm pretty sure BKK used to be my fav city after Moscow was and Vancouver BC.
Bogota is a very cool town.
I used to love Asia but that long flight, the monster size rats and monster cucarachas and the stifling jungle heat, are a bit much.
I think Latinos are nicer than Asians IMO.
I didn't use a hand counter like I doubt you did, but I could just say flip that 90% and say 90% are too old.
Sure there were a few approx 20 yo, like surfer complains about in MDE they're standing around with their novias and his friends smoking.
All with their stiff baseball hats.
And those chicas like to say loudly, todo con condom.
Ill be 54 soon, no gracias.
Wood, you wrote the other day you were banging some chica todo con condom in a club, I don't want that for free.
Let alone pay for it, and repeat.
You couldn't pay me, no gracias.
I will try to write some comprehensive posts when I get a chance.
Lastly the clubs? I was in almost everyone, they suck.
Maybe the worst "strip clubs" in the world.
Mr. E, when you had the antigen test, was it painful?
Thanks.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2562371]Why wasn't your PCR test accepted? They only look for 4 things: name, date, PCR, negative.[/QUOTE]
Yes, the majority of the girls I've seen in Santa Fe do not look that young. Most are probably somewhere in the middle. I think the 18-23-year-olds tend to hang on one block in front of a club (one side is opposite that street that goes to the convenient chicken and fish restaurant). I asked one girl walking across from Piscina how old she was (I was thinking early 30s) and she told me 41. I appreciated her honesty. If you aren't drunk or high, you will probably get a more realistic view. The majority already have children and somewhat aged. The youngest ones for the most part hang in a certain area with each other so they are easy to find. Though they also roam around a bit. The thing is, if you stick with the ones who look a bit older, you never have to worry about whether or not the girl is old enough or scrutinize the cedula which could be fake anyway.
[QUOTE=TaiwanLaowai;2564680]Yes, the majority of the girls I've seen in Santa Fe do not look that young. Most are probably somewhere in the middle. I think the 18-23-year-olds tend to hang on one block in front of a club (one side is opposite that street that goes to the convenient chicken and fish restaurant). I asked one girl walking across from Piscina how old she was (I was thinking early 30s) and she told me 41. I appreciated her honesty. If you aren't drunk or high, you will probably get a more realistic view. The majority already have children and somewhat aged. The youngest ones for the most part hang in a certain area with each other so they are easy to find. Though they also roam around a bit. The thing is, if you stick with the ones who look a bit older, you never have to worry about whether or not the girl is old enough or scrutinize the cedula which could be fake anyway.[/QUOTE]You never have to worry about whether or not the girl is old enough or scrutinize the cedula which could be fake anyway.
Some guys should ask themselves, how much is a 3rd world pop worth to them? 5 usd? 10 usd? 50 usd? 100 usd?
Ok now ask yourself, are you willing to go to a 3rd world prison for who knows how many years (lucky if you make it out alive), for something worth say 10 usd?
For something with the $ value of a fucking subway sandwich?
Some of them looked like they haven't even started puberty.
But they had mini shorts on and tons of makeup.
[QUOTE=SilverTurtle;2564602]Mr. E, when you had the antigen test, was it painful?[/QUOTE]Exact same as the PCR that I had except I did the PCR myself at the drive thru of CVS. They put a cotton swab up your nose and twirl it around.
Just curious to know, how much does a RT. PCR test cost in Colombia, it seems different website list different prices, unless I am looking at the wrong places.
Cheers.
Mike.
[QUOTE=Mike963;2564813]Just curious to know, how much does a RT. PCR test cost in Colombia, it seems different website list different prices, unless I am looking at the wrong places.
Cheers.
Mike.[/QUOTE]Not sure why your asking about PCR in Colombia unless it's to get out of Quarantine, You need PCR to get into Colombia but if your going to the states you need antigen which is cheaper. I paid for PCR in Bogota about $70 and I paid about $40 for an Antigen.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2564704]Exact same as the PCR that I had except I did the PCR myself at the drive thru of CVS. They put a cotton swab up your nose and twirl it around.[/QUOTE]I take it as non-hurtful. I will go to your clinic next month. Thanks.
[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2564696]
Ok now ask yourself, are you willing to go to a 3rd world prison for who knows how many years (lucky if you make it out alive), for something worth say 10 usd?
For something with the $ value of a fucking subway sandwich?
[/QUOTE]I was a Santa Fe rat before Covid hit. If one is worried about validity of cedulas girls use, mongers can limit themselves to Clubs in Santa Fe. Lots of hot women there in all ages and because the deed is done within the club, you can be assured that everyone involved is of majority.
[QUOTE=SilverTurtle;2565219]I take it as non-hurtful. I will go to your clinic next month. Thanks.[/QUOTE]It makes you tear up and want to sneeze as a reaction because it touches nerves or whatever, but it does not hurt.
I just booked an airbnb in La Candelaria area. I was thinking about Chapinero but then decide that I prefer the old town. I'm wondering if you take our hobby as a reference point, are my options in La Candelaria less attractive then Chapinero? And what are your recommendations in La Candelaria? Any advice will be much appreciated. And report will follow.
Hi guys,
I have been benefiting from the reports on ISG for some time and want to share my experience. I have just completed my nine day trip to Bogota Columbia. I got Covid PCR test at CVS which was free with my insurance and I got the lab results within 24 hours. I traveled on United and landed Bogota at 10:30 PM. No problem with immigration. I was offered 60 mill for White taxi which is actually a small van. I countered with 50 mill and they agreed which I think is a reasonable because when I came back from my hotel to the airport it was 38 mill on the meter. I stayed at Holiday Inn in Chapinero, Carrera 7 and, 67-39. I booked a room for two people but I never brought any girl to the room as the girls I wanted to bring to the hotel were not interested. I have checked with the hotel manager and the manager told that if I book the room for two people than there is no extra charge for the girl she need to be registered at the reception. Holiday Inn was very nice and clean hotel, provides free hot breakfast. I paid US $297 for nine nights which I think is pretty reasonable. The first night I went to pussy house in Chapinero area. I do not speak Spanish and I was Overcharged by that club. I made a mistake and I told them that I am from America and after that everybody was excited. They told me corona beer is 25 mil and final bill was 60 mil for two beers. When I complained about the price they started to explain in Spanish which I was not able to understand so I gave the waiter 50 and 20 mil and the waiter kept the 10 mill saying that it is his tip. Everyone in the club was pushing for the tip and they had people standing everywhere wanting tip without doing anything. Overall I did not like the club atmosphere. Most of the girls were five and there were couple of 6 but they were busy with the guys. I ended up going With a girl who was five in my rating. She asked hundred mil for 20 minutes but then later agreed for 30 minutes. After paying hundred mil she took me to adjacent building. There was a guy upstairs who asked me to pay 50 Mil. 30 mil for the room and 20 mil for the condom. He also wanted me to give 30 mil tip before entering the room. He also told me the time will be 20 minute and if I want to stay 30 minutes I have to pay another 30 mil. I was upset because the girl did not mention any of these extra expenses and she was also supporting him to pay tip and extra charge for 30 minutes. I decided to do 20 minutes and experience was below average. After that I decided to leave. While I was leaving the room guy was begging for tip and then there was another guy downstairs he wanted me to give tip and when I came out of that building the outside guy wanted me to tip him. I did not gave tip to all those guys as I was mad with the experience and I told them that I will never come back to this club.
Next day I went to mezzanine which was the best place during my whole trip. I went there every day and first two rooms had 3 to 4 girls and the other rooms were shut down probably because of Covid. The service was very good and they charged hundred mill for 30 minutes and 150 mill for one hour. I went there every day and had sex with one of the girls. I Had sex multiple times with four different girls there and Service was amazing. All those girls were eight in my ratings. I went to Abudubai But it was closed. I walked around and there were four different brothels nearby in that area and all of them are closed. I went to couple of other massage places in Chapinero but they were also closed. I mainly spent my morning at mezzanine and evening at Santa fe. I went to Troya club and couple of other clubs. I did not see any girl above five in Those clubs. Most of the girls were above age 30 and hard-core pros. I enjoyed the sweeties outside and paid 35 to 45 mil for 20 minutes. Some girls were good and some were not. I did checked girls IDs who looked too young. All of those girls were around age 19 and 20. One girl told me that she has ID at the hotel. When I went to the hotel and ask her to show me ID and she was not able to produce ID so I decided to leave. The hotel receptionist immediately came to me and told me that he will never let underage girl work there because he do not want to risk himself and the hotel. He told me that I should not worry that any of these hotels here will let underage girls to work. He he appreciated my concern and said that I'm doing the right thing he than told me that they also do not want to go to jail and risk there own business. I stayed at Santa fe up to 7 pm and went there every evening. Overall Bogota was a good experience and because of Covid most of the places were closed and I see best value at the massage places and Santa Fe Chicas. I went to Cendiatra lab paid 80 mil and it took about 1 1/2 hour to get the test results. Coming back to airport on yellow taxi the meter showed 38 mil and I paid 45 mil. This is my first report and I know that I am not able to describe everything in detail but I tried to provide you about my experience.
[QUOTE=Viagara58;2565611]Hi guys,
I have been benefiting from the reports on ISG for some time and want to share my experience. I have just completed my nine day trip to Bogota Columbia. I got Covid PCR test at CVS which was free with my insurance and I got the lab results within 24 hours. I traveled on United and landed Bogota at 10:30 PM. No problem with immigration. I was offered 60 mill for White taxi which is actually a small van. I countered with 50 mill and they agreed which I think is a reasonable because when I came back from my hotel to the airport it was 38 mill on the meter. I stayed at Holiday Inn in Chapinero, Carrera 7 and, 67-39. I booked a room for two people but I never brought any girl to the room as the girls I wanted to bring to the hotel were not interested. I have checked with the hotel manager and the manager told that if I book the room for two people than there is no extra charge for the girl she need to be registered at the reception. Holiday Inn was very nice and clean hotel, provides free hot breakfast. I paid US $297 for nine nights which I think is pretty reasonable. The first night I went to pussy house in Chapinero area. I do not speak Spanish and I was Overcharged by that club. I made a mistake and I told them that I am from America and after that everybody was excited. They told me corona beer is 25 mil and final bill was 60 mil for two beers. When I complained about the price they started to explain in Spanish which I was not able to understand so I gave the waiter 50 and 20 mil and the waiter kept the 10 mill saying that it is his tip. Everyone in the club was pushing for the tip and they had people standing everywhere wanting tip without doing anything. Overall I did not like the club atmosphere. Most of the girls were five and there were couple of 6 but they were busy with the guys. I ended up going With a girl who was five in my rating. She asked hundred mil for 20 minutes but then later agreed for 30 minutes. After paying hundred mil she took me to adjacent building. There was a guy upstairs who asked me to pay 50 Mil. 30 mil for the room and 20 mil for the condom. He also wanted me to give 30 mil tip before entering the room. He also told me the time will be 20 minute and if I want to stay 30 minutes I have to pay another 30 mil. I was upset because the girl did not mention any of these extra expenses and she was also supporting him to pay tip and extra charge for 30 minutes. I decided to do 20 minutes and experience was below average. After that I decided to leave. While I was leaving the room guy was begging for tip and then there was another guy downstairs he wanted me to give tip and when I came out of that building the outside guy wanted me to tip him. I did not gave tip to all those guys as I was mad with the experience and I told them that I will never come back to this club.
Next day I went to mezzanine which was the best place during my whole trip. I went there every day and first two rooms had 3 to 4 girls and the other rooms were shut down probably because of Covid. The service was very good and they charged hundred mill for 30 minutes and 150 mill for one hour. I went there every day and had sex with one of the girls. I Had sex multiple times with four different girls there and Service was amazing. All those girls were eight in my ratings. I went to Abudubai But it was closed. I walked around and there were four different brothels nearby in that area and all of them are closed. I went to couple of other massage places in Chapinero but they were also closed. I mainly spent my morning at mezzanine and evening at Santa fe. I went to Troya club and couple of other clubs. I did not see any girl above five in Those clubs. Most of the girls were above age 30 and hard-core pros. I enjoyed the sweeties outside and paid 35 to 45 mil for 20 minutes. Some girls were good and some were not. I did checked girls IDs who looked too young. All of those girls were around age 19 and 20. One girl told me that she has ID at the hotel. When I went to the hotel and ask her to show me ID and she was not able to produce ID so I decided to leave. The hotel receptionist immediately came to me and told me that he will never let underage girl work there because he do not want to risk himself and the hotel. He told me that I should not worry that any of these hotels here will let underage girls to work. He he appreciated my concern and said that I'm doing the right thing he than told me that they also do not want to go to jail and risk there own business. I stayed at Santa fe up to 7 pm and went there every evening. Overall Bogota was a good experience and because of Covid most of the places were closed and I see best value at the massage places and Santa Fe Chicas. I went to Cendiatra lab paid 80 mil and it took about 1 1/2 hour to get the test results. Coming back to airport on yellow taxi the meter showed 38 mil and I paid 45 mil. This is my first report and I know that I am not able to describe everything in detail but I tried to provide you about my experience.[/QUOTE]Welcome to Gringo price jaja, I went to Pussy House once and I knew in the first 2 seconds what the deal was and left. If it was your first time in Bogota and not speaking Spanish you made the right choice by going to Mezzanine. Except for the telephone booth size rooms I always had a good time and the girls are not as hard core as you will encounter in the PH or Santa Fe. What you need to do when you find a girl in Mezzanine that you like, get her WA and set something up for later at your place and you will enjoy yourself. Just don't trust ANYONE, keep your stuff locked up and don't let your guard down.
[QUOTE=Viagara58;2565611] All of those girls were around age 19 and 20. One girl told me that she has ID at the hotel. When I went to the hotel and ask her to show me ID and she was not able to produce ID so I decided to leave. The hotel receptionist immediately came to me and told me that he will never let underage girl work there because he do not want to risk himself and the hotel. He told me that I should not worry that any of these hotels here will let underage girls to work. He he appreciated my concern and said that I'm doing the right thing he than told me that they also do not want to go to jail and risk there own business.[/QUOTE]Good report, Viagra. As for Santa Fe, I was told that the police check and make sure all the women are over 18. Maybe before Covid they were, but I have to say that I saw some girls who could not pass for 14 let alone 18. I would be careful trusting the hotel operators entirely too. I believe the hotels do check IDs, but I think putting faith in them could be the mistake of a lifetime.
It has not caught on in Colombia but in Mexico, it is common for younger looking girls to fuck guys and have their "friends" try to shake stupid Americans down and get them to pay them off. In Colombia, scopolamine is the scam of choice but if any Americans are dumb enough to pay a blackmailer off, then we could see the you-had-sex-with-a-minor shit take off there.
And going to Colombia on your own now without speaking Spanish? You have some serious balls dude, and you get mad respect from me.
Thanks for the info, you are correct my query was more over to fly to Colombia.
[QUOTE=LatinaLover#1;2564879]Not sure why your asking about PCR in Colombia unless it's to get out of Quarantine, You need PCR to get into Colombia but if your going to the states you need antigen which is cheaper. I paid for PCR in Bogota about $70 and I paid about $40 for an Antigen.[/QUOTE]
According to the IATA and updated today Colombia only requires a a Check Mig is the only thing needed to enter. This site is dedicated to the airline industry and well respected so I'm not surprised they have the latest info.
This is the latest info on Delta's web site updated to day.
Bogota, Colombia.
Open with restrictions:
Says Covid 19 test NOT REQUIRED for Bogota, so looks like a go.
Quarantine.
May be required.
COVID-19 Test.
Not required.
Forms or Applications.
Required.
Health Insurance.
Recommended.
View More Requirement Details.
[QUOTE=LatinaLover#1;2565895]This is the latest info on Delta's web site updated to day.[/QUOTE]Yes sir! Good eye.
But Customs did not give a shit about that or about migracion app.
Flight from Dallas was probably 40% full, a 777 with outlets near every seat. I got to play a computer game the whole time, and it made the time fly by.
Bogota airport was deserted. El Dorado Avenue, road from airport to Downtown, was deserted. My taxi was flying down the road. I am at Bogota Marriott, usually a 12-15 minute drive, got here in like 7 minutes.
Novia is coming over. I have to make up for lost time.
I will be in BOG from June 10 to June 15.
I'm staying in Santa Fe. Anyone interested in the hunt day or night let me know by PM.
I am on Delta Web Site and it shows that USA Travels are exempted from showing negative covid test when returning to the USA. At least to Georgia. Could anyone confirm is this is true?
[QUOTE=Georgest;2566200]I am on Delta Web Site and it shows that USA Travels are exempted from showing negative covid test when returning to the USA. At least to Georgia. Could anyone confirm is this is true?[/QUOTE]Why didn't you take a screenshot? Everything I see says that a test is needed.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2566234]Why didn't you take a screenshot? Everything I see says that a test is needed.[/QUOTE]Nevermind. I was mistaken. You are correct Test is still required for re-entry.
Can you help me with some info? Where are the usual SWs areas in La Candelaria? Or places in La Candelaria that may be interesting interest regarding our hobby.
[QUOTE=Onojdi;2566417]Can you help me with some info? Where are the usual SWs areas in La Candelaria? Or places in La Candelaria that may be interesting interest regarding our hobby.[/QUOTE]I do not think there are any SGs in La Candelaria. I do not think there is any casa either.
There is a club Casa Show on CR 8 just north of Calle 19.
There is a casa in an office building on CR 10 East side of street just north of Av jiminez near San Victorino.
On CR 9 there is a daytime club called Roma between Calle 17 and Calle 18 on east side of street 2nd floor.
In San Victorino Plaza there are SGs in the middle of plaza.
North of San Victorino there is a low grade stroll on CR 13 and Calle 20.
And North of that is Santa Fe.
La Candeleria can be dangerous, be careful, because it is a tourist area there are more predators hunting.
I am heading to Bogota with a friend this week. I have a few questions and I hope you don't mind me asking. I do contribute to this forum as you can see if you do a search. I do a lot of "dating" but also like a good massage. I speak Spanish and have several friends and acquaintances in the city.
Finding Massage Places.
Is there an up to date list of massage places and other useful lists and if so, where can I find it?
I read here about Mezzanine. Does anyone have an address for that?
Where to Stay.
I tried Airbnb and found it frustrating. There are lots of hotels and I guess you just have to ask each one in person. Are 4 star hotels much more likely to let a normal looking lady in as opposed to 5 star hotels? Hotwire seems to have some great deals -- 5 star hotels for $29 a night. Any women coming to my room will be relatively middle class types but you never know.
I was in Cartagena a few months ago and had a blast but do not like the beach so I am thinking Bogota might be a better match. Any advise would be great.
[QUOTE=CubaTourist;2566819]I am heading to Bogota with a friend this week. I have a few questions and I hope you don't mind me asking. I do contribute to this forum as you can see if you do a search. I do a lot of "dating" but also like a good massage. I speak Spanish and have several friends and acquaintances in the city.
Finding Massage Places.
Is there an up to date list of massage places and other useful lists and if so, where can I find it?
I read here about Mezzanine. Does anyone have an address for that?
Where to Stay.
I tried Airbnb and found it frustrating. There are lots of hotels and I guess you just have to ask each one in person. Are 4 star hotels much more likely to let a normal looking lady in as opposed to 5 star hotels? Hotwire seems to have some great deals -- 5 star hotels for $29 a night. Any women coming to my room will be relatively middle class types but you never know.
I was in Cartagena a few months ago and had a blast but do not like the beach so I am thinking Bogota might be a better match. Any advise would be great.[/QUOTE]Ctg. Is not a great beach and the girls, etc. Are more expensive then the rest. They say theIsla de Barú is nice. I like to Scuba so I usually vacation in SAI or Providencia.
Girls in hotels has got a lot less strick with the hotels starving for clients. I'm not saying Hot pants and platforms from SF is ok but dressed normal should be no problem.
[QUOTE=LatinaLover#1;2566824]I'm not saying Hot pants and platforms from SF is ok but dressed normal should be no problem.[/QUOTE]When they leave Santa Fe they change out of their hooker clothes and put on regular clothes.
[QUOTE=CubaTourist;2566819]I am heading to Bogota with a friend this week. I have a few questions and I hope you don't mind me asking. I do contribute to this forum as you can see if you do a search. I do a lot of "dating" but also like a good massage. I speak Spanish and have several friends and acquaintances in the city.
Finding Massage Places.
Is there an up to date list of massage places and other useful lists and if so, where can I find it?
I read here about Mezzanine. Does anyone have an address for that?
Where to Stay.
I tried Airbnb and found it frustrating. There are lots of hotels and I guess you just have to ask each one in person. Are 4 star hotels much more likely to let a normal looking lady in as opposed to 5 star hotels? Hotwire seems to have some great deals -- 5 star hotels for $29 a night. Any women coming to my room will be relatively middle class types but you never know.
I was in Cartagena a few months ago and had a blast but do not like the beach so I am thinking Bogota might be a better match. Any advise would be great.[/QUOTE]Check my review from last year. It should be comprehensive enough to get you started.
Showdown.
[QUOTE=JohnGault;2566126]I will be in BOG from June 10 to June 15.
I'm staying in Santa Fe. Anyone interested in the hunt day or night let me know by PM.[/QUOTE]Oh man, I'm heading to Col on 6/26 and would like to make it first time in Bogota while contemplating on whether I should go to Cartagena or Mde as I normally do. I know there could be lots of valuable intel here, but what are the best suggestions for a noob in Bogota especially these crazy days? Airbnbs / Hotels? Area? Is Sante Fe the preferrd area since closed to the action / street walkers? Not going to sight seeing or anything touristic. Just to have a nightlife and dating / escorting. Any intel is appreciated.
[QUOTE=CubaTourist;2566819]I am heading to Bogota with a friend this week. I have a few questions and I hope you don't mind me asking. I do contribute to this forum as you can see if you do a search. I do a lot of "dating" but also like a good massage. I speak Spanish and have several friends and acquaintances in the city.
Finding Massage Places.
Is there an up to date list of massage places and other useful lists and if so, where can I find it?
I read here about Mezzanine. Does anyone have an address for that?
Where to Stay.
I tried Airbnb and found it frustrating. There are lots of hotels and I guess you just have to ask each one in person. Are 4 star hotels much more likely to let a normal looking lady in as opposed to 5 star hotels? Hotwire seems to have some great deals -- 5 star hotels for $29 a night. Any women coming to my room will be relatively middle class types but you never know.
I was in Cartagena a few months ago and had a blast but do not like the beach so I am thinking Bogota might be a better match. Any advise would be great.[/QUOTE]You sent me a PM but your in box is full.
Hello guys,
I am planning to go to Bogota at the last week of August. Mongering in Chicago or US in general is getting expensive. This will be my first time going outside of the freedom land. I am booking an airbnb in the northern area; north of calle 100. I am planning on using SA and Bumble and agencies during my trip. And if I feel adventures I might visit few masajes.
My question is, is it better to bring $1,000 worth of COP with me or should I use ATM to get the cash daily?
Hello, I'll be in Bogota in July. Really looking forward to it. I need all why'all's help. Has anyone dealt with Samii Villareal (twitter: at SamiVillareal). Here's the link to her profile: [URL]https://twitter.com/SamiVillareal[/URL].
I responded to one of your fleets on twitter, and we've been corresponding all day today. Is she legitimate or a 200 lbs gorilla? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
It is all right here.
Now it is up to you to let us know what has Changed? Open or Closed, prices etc.
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2205-Bogota-Lists[/URL]
[QUOTE=CubaTourist;2566819]I am heading to Bogota with a friend this week. I have a few questions and I hope you don't mind me asking. I do contribute to this forum as you can see if you do a search. I do a lot of "dating" but also like a good massage. I speak Spanish and have several friends and acquaintances in the city.
Finding Massage Places.
Is there an up to date list of massage places and other useful lists and if so, where can I find it?
I read here about Mezzanine. Does anyone have an address for that?
Where to Stay.
I tried Airbnb and found it frustrating. There are lots of hotels and I guess you just have to ask each one in person. Are 4 star hotels much more likely to let a normal looking lady in as opposed to 5 star hotels? Hotwire seems to have some great deals -- 5 star hotels for $29 a night. Any women coming to my room will be relatively middle class types but you never know.
I was in Cartagena a few months ago and had a blast but do not like the beach so I am thinking Bogota might be a better match. Any advise would be great.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=MrButtLicker;2566944]Hello guys,
I am planning to go to Bogota at the last week of August. Mongering in Chicago or US in general is getting expensive. This will be my first time going outside of the freedom land. I am booking an airbnb in the northern area; north of calle 100. I am planning on using SA and Bumble and agencies during my trip. And if I feel adventures I might visit few masajes.
My question is, is it better to bring $1,000 worth of COP with me or should I use ATM to get the cash daily?[/QUOTE]Where would you get the $1,000 worth of COP? If you get it from a bank in the USA they will rip you a new asshole.
[QUOTE=WerkTreue;2567013]Hello, I'll be in Bogota in July. Really looking forward to it. I need all why'all's help. Has anyone dealt with Samii Villareal (twitter: at SamiVillareal). Here's the link to her profile: [URL]https://twitter.com/SamiVillareal[/URL].
I responded to one of your fleets on twitter, and we've been corresponding all day today. Is she legitimate or a 200 lbs gorilla? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.[/QUOTE]Long shot request. Seems to me the population of the greater Bogota area is somewhere over 10 million. Just so you are not holding your breath for an answer.
[QUOTE=MrButtLicker;2566944]
My question is, is it better to bring $1,000 worth of COP with me or should I use ATM to get the cash daily?[/QUOTE]You will defintively have a better rate in ATM than with cash $ in casa de cambios.
[QUOTE=WorldTravel69;2567147]It is all right here.
Now it is up to you to let us know what has Changed? Open or Closed, prices etc.
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2205-Bogota-Lists[/URL][/QUOTE]Lots of places have disapeared due to lockdowns, Lalo, El Padrino, Olimpo, Lewinski, Juan pablo Zhivago, Lancaster to name a few of them. But as we are still not back to normal its too early to try to update everything.
Even though I had my shots I am still home playing it safe.
At least I can mark them as closed. Maybe they will reopen at some time.
I have been putting dates on each one when someone posts about the places to make it easier to know that's what.
[QUOTE=Routard;2567366]Lots of places have disappeared due to lockdowns, Lalo, El Padrino, Olimpo, Lewinski, Juan pablo Zhivago, Lancaster to name a few of them. But as we are still not back to normal its too early to try to update everything.[/QUOTE]
But I am looking for a good value place with no issues with bringing girls near Santa Fe (walking distance) for Friday, Saturday, and Sunday nights.
I live in Medellin but know Bogota pretty well.
Just need a little advice here, thanks!
Your mail box is Full.
[QUOTE=GhostRecon;2567674]But I am looking for a good value place with no issues with bringing girls near Santa Fe (walking distance) for Friday, Saturday, and Sunday nights.
I live in Medellin but know Bogota pretty well.
Just need a little advice here, thanks![/QUOTE]Hotel San Francisco CR10 and Cll 24 or Ibis Hotel up the street.
[QUOTE=GhostRecon;2567674]But I am looking for a good value place with no issues with bringing girls near Santa Fe (walking distance) for Friday, Saturday, and Sunday nights.
I live in Medellin but know Bogota pretty well.
Just need a little advice here, thanks![/QUOTE]5 min walk-- I Do Not know this owner-- I know a few people who have stayed in this building-- there are a few apts -- You Must inquire about stuff.
[URL]https://www.airbnb.com/s/Teusaquillo--Bogot%C3%A1--Colombia/homes?tab_id=home_tab&refinement_paths%5B%5D=%2Fhomes&flexible_trip_dates%5B%5D=july&flexible_trip_dates%5B%5D=june&flexible_trip_lengths%5B%5D=weekend_trip&date_picker_type=calendar&source=structured_search_input_header&search_type=user_map_move&ne_lat=4.614079281800463&ne_lng=-74.07093695391515&sw_lat=4.611721236460892&sw_lng=-74.0737089275469&zoom=18&search_by_map=true&place_id=ChIJN3NkpeqbP44RWZMQLjdYo28[/URL]
At the airport a few hours ago and I did not fell like waiting in line for the ATM so I thought it would not kill me to change a $ 10 bill for the taxi for pesos from those bandits. At the window there was a sign saying one dollar =3600 pesos. This was better than the rate I just got at the ATM a little while ago.
25 mil for the taxi to Santa Fe.
Go figure.
[QUOTE=JohnGault;2567947]At the airport a few hours ago and I did not fell like waiting in line for the ATM so I thought it would not kill me to change a $ 10 bill for the taxi for pesos from those bandits. At the window there was a sign saying one dollar =3600 pesos. This was better than the rate I just got at the ATM a little while ago.
25 mil for the taxi to Santa Fe.
Go figure.[/QUOTE]I just landed in Bogota on Delta coming from Atl. I tried 2 ATM's and for some reason they didn't have a signal and I couldn't even get taxi fare I've never seen anything even close to that in the airport, in fact it's been years that I even look at the money changers. XE has the official number at 3605 today.
I don't believe you Wood WA me HR number so I can see how sexy and submissive she truly is LOL.
[QUOTE=Woodman09;2562905]So I just met this SuperCute redhead Venezolana white girl at one of the clubs-- she is maybe 5', 90 lbs, 22 yo.
HS dreamgirl She knows how to take care of me.
So compliant accept no BBBJ yet. What I like is she is a little sex-bomb. She likes me dominating her.
She is a petite girl and has trouble taking my big dick, LOL, She could not take doggie style but we figured out if I bang her from behind.
While she is flattened out she can handle it and seems to really enjoy. She was very enthusiastic in helping me figure out the best way to bang her.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=GhostRecon;2567674]But I am looking for a good value place with no issues with bringing girls near Santa Fe (walking distance) for Friday, Saturday, and Sunday nights.[/QUOTE]I wonder if the intent is for you to walk into Santa Fe to do at their (seedy) locations or for you to bring chicas to your place? You say "bringing" so let me ask, do you like walk around Santa Fe and chat up the chicas and invite them to come with you? Or do you do a short time at their place to test the waters get her number and then call her to come to you? Is that preferable to you over calling the various numbers published on things like photoprepagos? Would you feel safe with chicas coming to your place which is an AirBnB and not having a porter? Or do most of them have a porter with ID check? Even if ID check on the way in, what I felt most giving a piece of mind in motels, both Kong in MDE and pretty much all in Brazil is that you get a call to your room when the girl exits asking you if you liberate her. That's an excellent way to check that you are (a) alive and sane and (b) not missing any important stuff. I have not much experience with normal hotels, let alone with just private apartments. In Panama there was no check at all when I walked with the chicas into the hotel elevator. In Brazil many apartments have porteiros but many don't do ID check if you bring in guests.
[QUOTE=StinkySquid;2568112]I wonder if the intent is for you to walk into Santa Fe to do at their (seedy) locations or for you to bring chicas to your place?[/QUOTE]What is seedy about it? You guys make the simplest stuff out to be so complicated. They have simplied it for you, but that does not seem to be hard enough for some. Go, pay the money, stick your dick into a chick, leave or find another to do the same thing with. Why insist on doing calculus when elementary addition and subtraction is already sufficient?
Do her, awesome cono, but I will say she is a ***** LOL.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2568139]What is seedy about it? You guys make the simplest stuff out to be so complicated. They have simplied it for you, but that does not seem to be hard enough for some. Go, pay the money, stick your dick into a chick, leave or find another to do the same thing with. Why insist on doing calculus when elementary addition and subtraction is already sufficient?[/QUOTE]I live a short walk from SF-- It's Friggen awesome!
[QUOTE=LatinaLover#1;2566824] I like to Scuba so I usually vacation in SAI or Providencia.[/QUOTE]LatinaLover, where is SAI and Providencia? I'm trying to increase my scuba locations and mongering in the same location. Where else have you been?
I've only done Curaçao, Sosúa, and Cartagena.
[QUOTE=UnknownGuy;2568590]LatinaLover, where is SAI and Providencia? I'm trying to increase my scuba locations and mongering in the same location. Where else have you been?
I've only done Curaao, Sosa, and Cartagena.[/QUOTE]SAI is San Andres if your not failure it's an island of the coast of Nicaragua but through some kind of war years back it now belongs to Colombia. The sister island to SAI is Providencia. Both islands have perfect water. I hate wearing a wet suit, don't even like to wear a shortie. So I pretty much stick to warm waters. I have dived Isla Culebra, PR amazing, Mexico, Cancun area. Costa Rica, Bahamas, just google dive sites in any country you visit. SAI and to ssome degree providecia ot hit pretty bad by the huricane, not sure how things are now, research it.
[QUOTE=Viagara58;2565611]Hi guys,
I went to Troya club and couple of other clubs. I did not see any girl above five in Those clubs.[/QUOTE]Great report Viagra. I've been to Bogota many times, but I'm surprised to hear that the highest rated girl at Troya (Santa Fe) was a 5. Troya and Fiebres were my go to spots prior to the pandemic. Did you go into Fiebres, Atones, Atunes, and any other clubs? Last time I was there these clubs were dominated by Venezuelans, many of who were pretty hot, some 8 at least.
Also, do you know the location of mezzanine? That's one place I've yet to try. Too bad to hear about pussy house, it's been hit and miss over the years, but it's sometimes has had good talent on the weekends.
I'm also curious if anyone has been to Lido's in the north recently. I've only pulled one girl from there since these girls are expensive and there's a 200 k COP "barfine". And the waiter was super shady adding his own tips to the drinks, not sure if he's still there. But if I go to Bogota and get trapped up north due to protests, I might have to give it a try again.
I realize this is the Bogota thread, but I'm also curious what Faces Dos is like in Medellin right now. I couldn't find any recent posts on it in the Medellin thread.
Quick question to anyone who can spare the knowledge.
I read back down the forum, found out that San Andres is mostly black and the water isn't that warm. OK.
But no info on WG, SWG, houses, cabanas. Anyone?
Thanks!
[QUOTE=Blade2001;2568637]Great report Viagra. I've been to Bogota many times, but I'm surprised to hear that the highest rated girl at Troya (Santa Fe) was a 5. Troya and Fiebres were my go to spots prior to the pandemic. Did you go into Fiebres, Atones, Atunes, and any other clubs? Last time I was there these clubs were dominated by Venezuelans, many of who were pretty hot, some 8 at least.
Also, do you know the location of mezzanine? That's one place I've yet to try. Too bad to hear about pussy house, it's been hit and miss over the years, but it's sometimes has had good talent on the weekends.
I'm also curious if anyone has been to Lido's in the north recently. I've only pulled one girl from there since these girls are expensive and there's a 200 k COP "barfine". And the waiter was super shady adding his own tips to the drinks, not sure if he's still there. But if I go to Bogota and get trapped up north due to protests, I might have to give it a try again.
I realize this is the Bogota thread, but I'm also curious what Faces Dos is like in Medellin right now. I couldn't find any recent posts on it in the Medellin thread.[/QUOTE]Mezzanine [URL]https://goo.gl/maps/guSG4CpdPo8q8Ngq5[/URL].
SHowdown.
So one of my girls is coming in from Barranquilla on Wed. She wants us to have a couple of threesomes. Her friend was suppose to do it, but at last minute decided to back out.
So now we are thinking about swingers clubs. Does anybody have any advice? I don't have any bisexual girls here I can call to join us.
[QUOTE=Blade2001;2568637]Great report Viagra. I've been to Bogota many times, but I'm surprised to hear that the highest rated girl at Troya (Santa Fe) was a 5. Troya and Fiebres were my go to spots prior to the pandemic. Did you go into Fiebres, Atones, Atunes, and any other clubs? Last time I was there these clubs were dominated by Venezuelans, many of who were pretty hot, some 8 at least.
Also, do you know the location of mezzanine? That's one place I've yet to try. Too bad to hear about pussy house, it's been hit and miss over the years, but it's sometimes has had good talent on the weekends.
I'm also curious if anyone has been to Lido's in the north recently. I've only pulled one girl from there since these girls are expensive and there's a 200 k COP "barfine". And the waiter was super shady adding his own tips to the drinks, not sure if he's still there. But if I go to Bogota and get trapped up north due to protests, I might have to give it a try again.
I realize this is the Bogota thread, but I'm also curious what Faces Dos is like in Medellin right now. I couldn't find any recent posts on it in the Medellin thread.[/QUOTE]Some of my best pre-pandemic experiences in Bogota were take-outs from Troya, Fiebres and clubs close by. I agreed there were some 8's in the mix. Sad to know only 5's are hanging around now. I did go to Mezzanine once and had a wonderful encounter as well, but the tight cubicle is a big drawback for me. So never went back. If you are looking for a safe environment with lot's of eye candies, Lido is the #1 place, but expect to pay top pesos for that. I enjoyed Lido before it turned into a shark tank. As discussed here a few times before, some Lido girls also worked in Santa Fe clubs. I personally knew and met a few in both places.
Santa Fe is really the best and most convenient place for our hobby in Bogota in terms of # and variety of chicas, prices and operating hours. But you have to constantly watch your back, and be alerted with your surroundings at all time. If you stand out, don't believe those who said it is just like any other big city elsewhere. Especially in this crisis, I believe there are even more desperate characters looking for easy targets in Santa Fe.
Pussy House and a couple smaller clubs right next to it was quite nice, but not anymore. I was very disappointed last time I went there before Pandemic. Things has gone down a lot there in the last few years. During the day, it will take a good amount of time in traffic if you plan to run between Santa Fe and the North.
Medellin is a different story from Bogota. It doesn't provide as many venues as in BOG, but at smaller size, it is also more manageable and easier to maneuver. The high end clubs in Med. , Face Dos, La Isla. Were never my favorite places. I'd stay in BOG for clubs. I have been to both cities numerous times, and I can only say the experiences are quite distinct, both pleasant and enjoyable.
[QUOTE=Showdown;2568975]Mezzanine [URL]https://goo.gl/maps/guSG4CpdPo8q8Ngq5[/URL].
SHowdown.[/QUOTE]Thanks, I wish I had known about this earlier. I often stay at Dann Carlton Hotel and Spa (amazing breakfast included) and it's close. There isn't much going on in the north rich part of town that isn't out of my budget. Plenty of inexpensive fun in the south though.
Garces Navas, Engativa, [URL]https://www.google.com.co/maps/place/4%C2%B042'47.7%22N+74%C2%B007'07.9%22W/@4.713257,-74.1276122,15z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x0:0x0!8m2!3d4.71325!4d-74.1188611[/URL] seems to be a special place where cute girls are being advertized, but I have 3 in the same place now, all different numbers but pointing to the same spot on the map. It might be that google just puts the sticker on there because it's he middle of the section of town. Not sure. But I am a bit suspicious, and it's far out, that I don't want to do all that hassle for it to end up being a scam of some kind.
[QUOTE=ViajandoMusico;2569186]Some of my best pre-pandemic experiences in Bogota were take-outs from Troya, Fiebres and clubs close by. I agreed there were some 8's in the mix. Sad to know only 5's are hanging around now. I did go to Mezzanine once and had a wonderful encounter as well, but the tight cubicle is a big drawback for me. So never went back. If you are looking for a safe environment with lot's of eye candies, Lido is the #1 place, but expect to pay top pesos for that. I enjoyed Lido before it turned into a shark tank. As discussed here a few times before, some Lido girls also worked in Santa Fe clubs. I personally knew and met a few in both places.
Santa Fe is really the best and most convenient place for our hobby in Bogota in terms of # and variety of chicas, prices and operating hours. But you have to constantly watch your back, and be alerted with your surroundings at all time. If you stand out, don't believe those who said it is just like any other big city elsewhere. Especially in this crisis, I believe there are even more desperate characters looking for easy targets in Santa Fe.
Pussy House and a couple smaller clubs right next to it was quite nice, but not anymore. I was very disappointed last time I went there before Pandemic. Things has gone down a lot there in the last few years. During the day, it will take a good amount of time in traffic if you plan to run between Santa Fe and the North..[/QUOTE]Sometimes the clubs have bad nights-- This is the problem with one hit wonders Know it alls who post here-- They generally post about their Bad experience which reflects their limited experience.
Is this place Closed:
[B]Las Divas[/B] Calle 61 # 13-65 (next door to 75). 15-20 Chicas. Prices: 50 k 20 min. , 60-80 k 30 min. , _k hour. Tel: _ Hours: 3 pm to 2-3 am. [URL]https://colombia.adultsearch.com/bogota/strip-club-brothel/las-divas/7058[/URL]
[QUOTE=ViajandoMusico;2569186]
Pussy House and a couple smaller clubs right next to it was quite nice, but not anymore. I was very disappointed last time I went there before Pandemic. Things has gone down a lot there in the last few years. During the day, it will take a good amount of time in traffic if you plan to run between Santa Fe and the North.
[/QUOTE].
[QUOTE=WorldTravel69;2569346]Is this place Closed:
[B]Las Divas[/B] Calle 61 # 13-65 (next door to 75). 15-20 Chicas. Prices: 50 k 20 min. , 60-80 k 30 min. , _k hour. Tel: _ Hours: 3 pm to 2-3 am. [URL]https://colombia.adultsearch.com/bogota/strip-club-brothel/las-divas/7058[/URL]
.[/QUOTE]Last time I went to Las Divas in November 2019 after stepping out of Pussy House disappointedly, it was still open, but the interior space was walled up on one side and reduced to half of what it was before. It was very small with only a few girls inside, and quality was not desirable. I left shortly. My experience before that visit at both places though not comparable to Santa Fe, were not bad at all. But unless I stay close by in Chapinero, these clubs will not be on my priority list.
[QUOTE=Woodman09;2569267]Sometimes the clubs have bad nights-- This is the problem with one hit wonders Know it alls who post here-- They generally post about their Bad experience which reflects their limited experience.[/QUOTE]I just want to say that the Santa Fe experience is definitely not what it was, Seems like it is a bit depressed. Less traffic and less SGs. There are still hot girls but not as many as before.
I guess it is the economy, less locals coming out then before. I went out tonight and it was OK. It seems like last few times it has been ok but not great.
I prefer to take delivery to my room. It's just more my thing. And in Brazil I have done reasonably well with that.
So now planning my trip tomorrow I'll be off, it's all coming along beautifully.
I had some really nice chats with a few of them from PhotoPrepago, plus a whole line-up from SA. What I like with these chats is if they are warm. When they respond. When you're more than just a stack of cash. Like, when they come with this attitude "don't waste my time" I go, fuck you! Don't waste my time with bullshit not giving me some courtesy and a little flirt. So, I had two I was flirting with over the last few days.
But I am a bit concerned whether they are some scam hiding behind pictures. I definitely had two of those SA girls from Venezuela who were clearly scammers because they had pictures and then wouldn't want to show themselves live and were immediately begging for money.
Those two PhotoPrepago girls were different. One wanted me to engage on a video / virtual thing, wanted me to pay with some transfer. I didn't want to or have time, so we kept exchanging sweet flirts over the days. There was no pressure. I said I want to meet you when I'm in town. Fine. But then over the last 24 hours two two profiles disappeared from PhotoPrepago. And that makes me nervous, sad, that it might just be a scam. I am still in contact with both of them.
In fact, and that is another red flag, one of them who I did not have much conversation with, just messaged me out of the blue, sending a little flirt. I did a search for her photos to see if they are taken from somewhere, but could not find. But that isn't sure thing I could swear her anuncio said she had an apto somewhere, but I can't remember in what part of town. Now she's telling me she doesn't have an apto and we'd just meet in a hotel or motel or my place. I asked her for a quick video message, but I guess they never like doing that, I don't know why. I wonder if that will be a big waste of time when some old hag shows up rather than this girl I thought she was.
The other case is even stranger. We were flirting for days now, the one who offered virtual sessions, which I didn't take and she did not pressure me. Her PhotoPrepago profile also disappeared. But I searched for her photos and boy did I find. She is some onlyfans starlet. It still could be genuine. But I am preparing myself for the big letdown. I'm just wondering what your guys' experience was with these PhotoPrepago girls. I think it is known that there are scammers and too good to be true stuff. In Brazil too.
Well, I will soon see. Will try to meet them in a place where I can easily walk away from. If they do end up genuine, and we have as much chemistry than on whatsapp, then I'll be a very happy dude and I'll do some more with them. And I'll be really busy to also attend my lineup of SA girls. It's so funny. I have never been in a situation like that. Where will I take all that time from it takes to even speed-date these girls over coffee? I'll hang out in Bogota for several weeks, as long as it takes.
[QUOTE=JohnGault;2567947]At the airport a few hours ago and I did not fell like waiting in line for the ATM so I thought it would not kill me to change a $ 10 bill for the taxi for pesos from those bandits. At the window there was a sign saying one dollar =3600 pesos. This was better than the rate I just got at the ATM a little while ago.
25 mil for the taxi to Santa Fe.
Go figure.[/QUOTE]But how much did you actually get for your $10? The teaser rates posted are before commission and fees that reduce the 3,600 to 3,000 or very likely less.
Also not sure what ATM you used, because I got 3,629 (net) on same day at the red ATM (I think Scotiabank) by the luggage claim area, no fees.
[QUOTE=StinkySquid;2569752]Those two PhotoPrepago girls were different. One wanted me to engage on a video / virtual thing, wanted me to pay with some transfer. I didn't want to or have time, so we kept exchanging sweet flirts over the days. There was no pressure. I said I want to meet you when I'm in town. Fine. But then over the last 24 hours two two profiles disappeared from PhotoPrepago.[/QUOTE]What is with the getting wrapped up in hookers? They are there to be paid to be fucked. All the extra flirting and checking up on their profiles is a big waste of time. Seems you guys are missing normal women in your lives to have to go through all this shit with hookers.
The cashier at McDonald's doesn't care about your feelings. They are there to take in cash and give out burgers. With hookers you order pussy the same way that you order burgers. No need to call ahead and tell them how good the burgers look on the picture and ask them to let you hear the meat sizzling on the grill. These chicks are not sending you googly eyes and heart emojis because they are hoping that you are their true love. They are doing it so hopefully you will hurry up and come off some cash.
There is no need to wonder all this crap if you have boots on the ground and send the chick a message saying are you available to come fuck. If yes, then she comes. If no, then you move on to the next ad. Why build anxiety by complicating the process?
I will reply later to the philosophical issue that Mr. Enternation raised.
Right now, does anyone know the Engativa area Garces Navas around the Cali Vea (chicken joint?) near Calle 80?
I wonder if this is some kind of scammer establishment. Super cute girls but I suspect that it's a trap. If you know the place and have good experience, that'd be nice.
[QUOTE=StinkySquid;2569752]I prefer to take delivery to my room. It's just more my thing. And in Brazil I have done reasonably well with that.
I had some really nice chats with a few of them from PhotoPrepago, plus a whole line-up from SA. What I like with these chats is if they are warm. When they respond. When you're more than just a stack of cash. Like, when they come with this attitude "don't waste my time" I go, fuck you! Don't waste my time with bullshit not giving me some courtesy and a little flirt. So, I had two I was flirting with over the last few days.
But I am a bit concerned whether they are some scam hiding behind pictures. I definitely had two of those SA girls from Venezuela who were clearly scammers because they had pictures and then wouldn't want to show themselves live and were immediately begging for money.
Those two PhotoPrepago girls were different. One wanted me to engage on a video / virtual thing, wanted me to pay with some transfer. [/QUOTE]Seems to be a lot of trouble to go through for paid pussy. And, no, you are never more than a stack of cash to a hooker.
[QUOTE=Woodman09;2569513]I just want to say that the Santa Fe experience is definitely not what it was, Seems like it is a bit depressed. Less traffic and less SGs. There are still hot girls but not as many as before.
I guess it is the economy, less locals coming out then before. I went out tonight and it was OK. It seems like last few times it has been ok but not great.[/QUOTE]Thanks, this is the info I was looking for. Was curious if more girls would come out because they needed the money, or more girls would stay home since not enough customers due to the economy, and of course health concerns. Like anywhere else, weekends are when the hot girls show up.
[QUOTE=Woodman09;2567887]Hotel San Francisco CR10 and Cll 24 or Ibis Hotel up the street.[/QUOTE]I really appreciate it!
First time posting, although I have been lurking for the past year or so, as I have planned my trip to Bogota over the past few months. So appreciative to the wealth of information here, I never would have pulled the trigger on my trip without it. I went ahead and made plans to visit for July 7-15, and so I was pretty thrilled when I saw that almost all of the daily restrictions were lifted on June 8.
As far as I can tell, there are no restrictions on purchasing alcohol any longer, and restaurants and bars are business as usual, subject to a Maximum Capacity (restriction, which is to be posted at the entrance. In fact, the only places that I can see that are closed are discos (a win for me) and stadiums. Other than needing to wear a mask everywhere, I really can't see that there are any restrictions in Bogota.
Are they still doing cedula checks? Or can anyone pretty much travel anywhere, just as long as they are wearing a mask? (They don't mention anything about cedula checks, only that the curfew has been lifted.).
Also, any suggestions for a good place to take a date for dinner? My general plan was to meet with girls from Seeking (SA), and I was looking for places within walking distance from my rental. I am staying in an AirBnB right between Parque 93 and Zona T, so I am sure that there are a ton of great places. I found a listing for OSK Peru, which looks great, but struck out when trying to find a traditional steakhouse. Any suggestions?
Thanks for the help.
I went to Pussy House for the second time in about 2 months tonight. It was pretty good a two years ago and went several times then but I had a bad experience about 2 months ago and didn't write a report thinking it was "just one of those off nights". I went again tonight and can confirm. Avoid this place.
First, the business model is not to sell chicks for sex, but to load the semi-hot girls into booths to ring up the drink prices for the locals.
The girls hanging around and not in booths were anywhere from 3-5's on my scale. The 5's who did happen to walk around were uninterested in having sex. I am a gringo but speak Spanish and just ordered the 10 mil Club Colombia but they tack on an extra 10 mil for food. I tried to argue but they insisted, not a gringo thing because all the tables had the same shitty bag of shit food on their tables.
I had taking a bunch of Viagra and just wanted to unload but was willing to just cut my losses and leave anyway. But on my way out this girl outside talked me into 140 sex. I was the only one in any of the rooms next store. The chick was about a 4 but had beautiful eyes so I was like "fuck it".
Again, this place is awful. Don't waste your time and they won't miss you either.
[QUOTE=StinkySquid;2569752]I prefer to take delivery to my room. It's just more my thing. And in Brazil I have done reasonably well with that.
I had some really nice chats with a few of them from PhotoPrepago, plus a whole line-up from SA. What I like with these chats is if they are warm. When they respond. When you're more than just a stack of cash. Like, when they come with this attitude "don't waste my time" I go, fuck you! Don't waste my time with bullshit not giving me some courtesy and a little flirt. So, I had two I was flirting with over the last few days.
But I am a bit concerned whether they are some scam hiding behind pictures. ...[/QUOTE]To which I got the following replies:
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2569974]What is with the getting wrapped up in hookers? They are there to be paid to be fucked. All the extra flirting and checking up on their profiles is a big waste of time. Seems you guys are missing normal women in your lives to have to go through all this shit with hookers.[/QUOTE]I understand it may not be your thing, but it's mine. As long as I have (had) my GF why would I even want a hooker. And when I do a hooker, why would I not want to enjoy the encounter? I'm not quite sure if that's posturing on your part, but I'd say each his own. I like my sexual activity to be an overall good experience. Dead fish eyes closed do it quickly is not and probably never will be my thing.
[QUOTE]The cashier at McDonald's doesn't care about your feelings. They are there to take in cash and give out burgers. With hookers you order pussy the same way that you order burgers. No need to call ahead and tell them how good the burgers look on the picture and ask them to let you hear the meat sizzling on the grill. These chicks are not sending you googly eyes and heart emojis because they are hoping that you are their true love. They are doing it so hopefully you will hurry up and come off some cash. [/QUOTE]I know they are not engaging like this because of "true love". But there is still a lot of fun in playing love, even if fake. It's just fun to play with emotions. And I think there is a provable correlation between girls who engage like this to tend to give you a better experience from those who are just professional fast-sex cashiers.
After all that flirting, that one girl had made me an offer for 400 (kCOP) for the entire night. She just left and it's 1 pm now. She was here from 10 pm to 1 pm. There was zero time pressure, and there was zero money pressure either. She didn't ask for any up front. We met like lovers, I had some delicacies in my room to enjoy. I found the entire time enjoyable and I had picked that one because she was cute in the pictures. Advertised as 19 yo, which of course we know is always "some time ago". I was worried how old the pictures would be, and to my great relief what I had seen and liked was pretty much up to date. So, I was a happy camper. In my book I scored and this has directly to do with the attitude which you get a feel for that attitude when you chat ahead of time.
[QUOTE=Kib123;2570014]Seems to be a lot of trouble to go through for paid pussy. And, no, you are never more than a stack of cash to a hooker.[/QUOTE]Yes of course it is service for money. But everyone has their story and is human. I am after the ones who are not yet battle hardened. Who have spirit and a glow. I have been consistently happy with those who did have that. And I have been consistently unhappy with those who didn't.
Just before I had given her the money as she called her taxi, I was anxious that she would have said "400" leaving a final argument of "oh but I meant USD 400", but that worry was unnecessary as it turns out. This chica was simply doing her thing with respect.
I have to learn better Spanish though, this translating in my head to and from Portuguese doesn't work too well.
And as for unnecessary worries, this here I do not understand:
[QUOTE=Kib123;2569837]But how much did you actually get for your $10? The teaser rates posted are before commission and fees that reduce the 3,600 to 3,000 or very likely less.
Also not sure what ATM you used, because I got 3,629 (net) on same day at the red ATM (I think Scotiabank) by the luggage claim area, no fees.[/QUOTE]What is the problem of using an ATM machine at the airport before you exit? Why is this even an argument? Why would anyone even consider these money changers? Why are they even still there? I'd rather flirt with a hooker over WhatsApp and give her a tip after doing well than to change cash at a booth in an airport. ;)
GENERAL INFO:
As I arrived in BOG airport, not requiring the CoViD tests was such a treat.
I used the 1 hour free WiFi to get everything else figured out.
Cell phone roaming: I found that my Simple Mobile (ex Trac Phone) that uses the T-mobile network is doing south America roaming without problem. I love the Simple Mobile, it's awesome, you could have an America Roaming SIM without ever presenting your ID and pay everything in cash. This is quite a nice touch. Anyway, only problem is that the T-Mobile network is always flaky everywhere. Even in the USA I have white holes and here in BOG I see the bars frequently disappear while my PY sim card that logs onto the ATT network in the USA has way more stable bars.
Uber works in strange ways in Colombia, they didn't even show me a price. But I jumped and it worked 25 mil COP to Chapinero.
The driver said everything is open again. Saw people in restaurants. Seems like mask wearing on the street may be required. I usually hate that but I ended up doing it just to avoid testing the waters. But even in shops I see people without masks, they just put them on if someone else comes inside.
[QUOTE=Matthew44;2570191]I was looking for places within walking distance from my rental. I am staying in an AirBnB right between Parque 93 and Zona T, so I am sure that there are a ton of great places. I found a listing for OSK Peru, which looks great, but struck out when trying to find a traditional steakhouse. Any suggestions?[/QUOTE]La Brasserie on Carrera 13 between Calle 85 & 86a. There are also a few other upscale restaurants on that street. OSK Peru is on that street.
[QUOTE=Kib123;2569837]But how much did you actually get for your $10? The teaser rates posted are before commission and fees that reduce the 3,600 to 3,000 or very likely less.
Also not sure what ATM you used, because I got 3,629 (net) on same day at the red ATM (I think Scotiabank) by the luggage claim area, no fees.[/QUOTE]If you read my post a little closer you would see that I said I got 3600 pesos for one dollar. That means I got 36000 pesos for the ten dollar bill.
To answer another guy who said it is crazy to use the money changers at the airport well I agree. In my case the line for the ATM at the airport was long. So I knew the taxi would cost me 25 K. To me my time is important.
[QUOTE=JohnGault;2570434]If you read my post a little closer you would see that I said I got 3600 pesos for one dollar. That means I got 36000 pesos for the ten dollar bill.
To answer another guy who said it is crazy to use the money changers at the airport well I agree. In my case the line for the ATM at the airport was long. So I knew the taxi would cost me 25 K. To me my time is important.[/QUOTE]Well this is timely. Just flew into BOG Wednesday night. Happened to glance at the currency exchange rates. One place was giving 3620 and the other had 3630 per dollar. I believe the actual rate at the time was 3670. Usually the airport exchange rates suck, but that's not bad at all, especially if you're already at the airport and don't want to wait for the ATM.
[QUOTE=GreenBud;2570414]La Brasserie on Carrera 13 between Calle 85 & 86a. There are also a few other upscale restaurants on that street. OSK Peru is on that street.[/QUOTE]At GreenBud, thanks for the suggestion. That place looks perfect!
I also appreciate the tip about checking other restaurants on that street. Primi looks to be an excellent Italian restaurant, right down the street. There's a Four Seasons and a Sofitel on the other side of the street, but their restaurants look overpriced for the quality. I'll do some more hunting, but now I've got three very decent restaurants that I can visit within walking distance. Much appreciated!
[QUOTE=Matthew44;2570499]At GreenBud, thanks for the suggestion. That place looks perfect!
I also appreciate the tip about checking other restaurants on that street. Primi looks to be an excellent Italian restaurant, right down the street. There's a Four Seasons and a Sofitel on the other side of the street, but their restaurants look overpriced for the quality. I'll do some more hunting, but now I've got three very decent restaurants that I can visit within walking distance. Much appreciated![/QUOTE]On the same street, right across from Osaka is De luca's trendy, decent Italian restaurant.
[QUOTE=LatinaLover#1;2570625]On the same street, right across from Osaka is De luca's trendy, decent Italian restaurant.[/QUOTE]I've added that one to my list as well. Thanks!
[QUOTE=StinkySquid;2570394]I understand it may not be your thing, but it's mine. As long as I have (had) my GF why would I even want a hooker. And when I do a hooker, why would I not want to enjoy the encounter? I'm not quite sure if that's posturing on your part, but I'd say each his own. I like my sexual activity to be an overall good experience. Dead fish eyes closed do it quickly is not and probably never will be my thing.
I know they are not engaging like this because of "true love". But there is still a lot of fun in playing love, even if fake. It's just fun to play with emotions. And I think there is a provable correlation between girls who engage like this to tend to give you a better experience from those who are just professional fast-sex cashiers.[/QUOTE]SS,
I would have posted the same thing as you did a year ago. To recap, you are into the three phases of relationships: working girls, working girls where there is affection (sugar baby like), and civilians.
I had it out with Mr. E thinking he did not get it. I met a woman off seeking, and she was a 10 and a 10 in bed to boot. We did not talk all that much but when we were done, I slipped 300 k in her purse. Mr. E called me out on that, pretty much said I was a dumb ass for doing so. I thought about it and asked myself why, and I really did not like the answer. At first, it was habit, second it was to be polite, and the third, and the one I really hated, was that I felt I was not worthy of this woman. That is how badly my ego had bruised by women in the American sex prison.
It took me 4 weeks to see this woman again. In fact, I kind of went to Colombia to see her again. I fucked the shit out of her again and this time paid her nothing. I planned a trip with her and went to Mexico with her. On our last day in Mexico, she was in tears thinking she would not see me again, and we did see each other again in fact have several times.
I told my friends about her and they all could not believe what I was telling them. They all were saying you have to keep this woman.
I thought being loyal to one woman was a condition that I could never meet again. I liked sex too much, but it really was not that. I wanted to be satisfied, and I thought the only way I would be was with multiple women. But now every woman after the one I am with now would be a disappointment. I am not just satisfied after being with this woman. I am depleted. Usually when there is one of you and many of another group you are in the wrong, but I was not polyamorous because of me but because of these other women. With a few exceptions, I was always left wanting more or different.
Look, there are all kinds of definitions for what a 10 is. I get that. With this one, men honk their horns, turn around and stare at her ass when she is with me. When I went to a disco and they do filming of the hottest women there on screen, I thought she would be the first one they put on a screen; she was second. Think about that for a minute. I am at a disco in Cancun at Spring Break, and she is the hottest one there. There was no one there that was a trade up. We went to a busy park with thousands of people in Bogota, and I look around and again, there were none better.
Thing is she is with me for money right? The long game? If you saw us together, it would take you a second to see that is not the case. Every second she can, she is hanging on me, kissing me, stroking me. It is the easiest thing in the world to see if a woman is interested in a guy or his money in real life.
Mr. E has said there are two kinds of women, working girls you pay for sex and women you do not. That third category, the one you are enjoying where you imagine the woman likes you, is not real. Dude, if the woman really likes you, why is she taking money from you? She is insulting you. She is saying the only way you are worthy of her pussy is with money.
It is not like I have not spent money to be with my gal. I have with regards to travel, time, hotels, ETC, but here is the thing. She has spent her time to be with me too and at this point, I do not care how much it costs I am going to be with her, but both of would be aghast right now at the notion I am paying for sex.
So once you get that a woman setting a price for pussy is insulting you, then you negotiate down as harshly as you possible can and if you do not like the price, you walk like anything else. I have told guys time and again to not set prices with seeking. Yes, I know you get more responses, but you also get a ton more working girls.
There have been several times in Colombia and a few in Mexico that women wanted to see me and not need to be paid. Funny thing is those women were much, much better lovers than the ones who did get expect to get paid.
The whole notion that you do not want to insult the woman you are with over 400,000 COP or $400 US I get. You do not want to insult her, but she is insulting you by giving you a price. I know you would argue with the notion that you are paying her to like you, but that is what we have been accustomed to in the USA sex prison, and that is what you are doing. You would even say the sex is better in a sugar baby relationship than a pure hooker one, and it is, but why not go for even better sex without being insulted?
There are amazing women in Colombia who want to date you for you and fuck you for you. So why waste your time with these fake relationships?
[QUOTE=StinkySquid;2570394]
I understand it may not be your thing, but it's mine. As long as I have (had) my GF why would I even want a hooker. And when I do a hooker, why would I not want to enjoy the encounter? I'm not quite sure if that's posturing on your part, but I'd say each his own. I like my sexual activity to be an overall good experience. Dead fish eyes closed do it quickly is not and probably never will be my thing.
[/QUOTE]You have earned my full respect sir, very eloquent rebuttal to all our friendly 'attacks'. Happy mongering!
[QUOTE=JohnGault;2570434]If you read my post a little closer you would see that I said I got 3600 pesos for one dollar. That means I got 36000 pesos for the ten dollar bill.
To answer another guy who said it is crazy to use the money changers at the airport well I agree. In my case the line for the ATM at the airport was long. So I knew the taxi would cost me 25 K. To me my time is important.[/QUOTE]They must have put their house in order maybe due to competition, because the last time I changed money at the airport about 3 years ago I literally got screwed. A good 20% below market.
[QUOTE=Matthew44;2570191]First time posting, although I have been lurking for the past year or so, as I have planned my trip to Bogota over the past few months. So appreciative to the wealth of information here, I never would have pulled the trigger on my trip without it. I went ahead and made plans to visit for July 7-15, and so I was pretty thrilled when I saw that almost all of the daily restrictions were lifted on June 8.
As far as I can tell, there are no restrictions on purchasing alcohol any longer, and restaurants and bars are business as usual, subject to a Maximum Capacity (restriction, which is to be posted at the entrance. In fact, the only places that I can see that are closed are discos (a win for me) and stadiums. Other than needing to wear a mask everywhere, I really can't see that there are any restrictions in Bogota.
Are they still doing cedula checks? Or can anyone pretty much travel anywhere, just as long as they are wearing a mask? (They don't mention anything about cedula checks, only that the curfew has been lifted.).
Also, any suggestions for a good place to take a date for dinner? My general plan was to meet with girls from Seeking (SA), and I was looking for places within walking distance from my rental. I am staying in an AirBnB right between Parque 93 and Zona T, so I am sure that there are a ton of great places. I found a listing for OSK Peru, which looks great, but struck out when trying to find a traditional steakhouse. Any suggestions?
Thanks for the help.[/QUOTE]If your in Zona T try Andres Carne in DC, It's not as much fun as the original in Chia because of the multi level set up but the steak is good served on a sizzling metal platter and after dinner you can dance to some good music.
[URL]https://www.andrescarnederes.com/andres-dc[/URL]
[QUOTE=Matthew44;2570191]First time posting, although I have been lurking for the past year or so, as I have planned my trip to Bogota over the past few months. So appreciative to the wealth of information here, I never would have pulled the trigger on my trip without it. I went ahead and made plans to visit for July 7-15, and so I was pretty thrilled when I saw that almost all of the daily restrictions were lifted on June 8.
As far as I can tell, there are no restrictions on purchasing alcohol any longer, and restaurants and bars are business as usual, subject to a Maximum Capacity (restriction, which is to be posted at the entrance. In fact, the only places that I can see that are closed are discos (a win for me) and stadiums. Other than needing to wear a mask everywhere, I really can't see that there are any restrictions in Bogota.
Are they still doing cedula checks? Or can anyone pretty much travel anywhere, just as long as they are wearing a mask? (They don't mention anything about cedula checks, only that the curfew has been lifted.).
Also, any suggestions for a good place to take a date for dinner? My general plan was to meet with girls from Seeking (SA), and I was looking for places within walking distance from my rental. I am staying in an AirBnB right between Parque 93 and Zona T, so I am sure that there are a ton of great places. I found a listing for OSK Peru, which looks great, but struck out when trying to find a traditional steakhouse. Any suggestions?
Thanks for the help.[/QUOTE]If price is not an issue I would recommend la Estancia Chica, a 5 min walk from Parque 93. My favorite steakhouse in Bogota by far, it's a traditional Argentinian steakhouse that serves imported US and Argentinian beef. The churrasco, mollejas and ojo de bife are a clear step above the regular Colombian beef served at, Andres Carne de Res, Carne e Vino, Hermes Carne de Res etc.
Second the estancia chica recommendation. My go to before I went vegan.
[QUOTE=Jandara69;2570941]If price is not an issue I would recommend la Estancia Chica, a 5 min walk from Parque 93. My favorite steakhouse in Bogota by far, it's a traditional Argentinian steakhouse that serves imported US and Argentinian beef. The churrasco, mollejas and ojo de bife are a clear step above the regular Colombian beef served at, Andres Carne de Res, Carne e Vino, Hermes Carne de Res etc.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=LatinaLover#1;2570906]If your in Zona T try Andres Carne in DC, It's not as much fun as the original in Chia because of the multi level set up but the steak is good served on a sizzling metal platter and after dinner you can dance to some good music.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Jandara69;2570941]If price is not an issue I would recommend la Estancia Chica, a 5 min walk from Parque 93. My favorite steakhouse in Bogota by far, it's a traditional Argentinian steakhouse that serves imported US and Argentinian beef. The churrasco, mollejas and ojo de bife are a clear step above the regular Colombian beef served at, Andres Carne de Res, Carne e Vino, Hermes Carne de Res etc.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Gimmedub;2571010]Second the estancia chica recommendation. My go to before I went vegan.[/QUOTE]Thanks all for the suggestions. Andres Carne seems well suited for a casual lunch date, whereas La Estancia Chica for a fancier evening. I will make sure to hit them both.
But I would more likely give up women before I gave up meat. (I mean not really, but that was my initial reaction. LOL.)
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2570807]I met a woman off seeking, and she was a 10 and a 10 in bed to boot.[/QUOTE]I'm happy to hear you found someone special. What does a 10 look like to you (feel free to post a picture with her face blurred out or a celebrity that she resembles)?
As this is subjective, I consider Penelope Cruz, Salma Hayek, Jessica Alba (in their primes) to be 9's.
I'd say maybe Adrianna Lima, and a couple other Brazilian Victoria's Secret models (in their primes) to be 10's.
If she is a 10 in your eyes, at the end of the day, that's all that matters.
I'm just curious to know what kind of score she is.
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2570807]S
I would have posted the same thing as you did a year ago. To recap, you are into the three phases of relationships: working girls, working girls where there is affection (sugar baby like), and civilians.
I had it out with Mr. E thinking he did not get it. I met a woman off seeking, and she was a 10 and a 10 in bed to boot. We did not talk all that much but when we were done, I slipped 300 k in her purse. Mr. E called me out on that, pretty much said I was a dumb ass for doing so. I thought about it and asked myself why, and I really did not like the answer. At first, it was habit, second it was to be polite, and the third, and the one I really hated, was that I felt I was not worthy of this woman. That is how badly my ego had bruised by women in the American sex prison.
It took me 4 weeks to see this woman again. In fact, I kind of went to Colombia to see her again. I fucked the shit out of her again and this time paid her nothing. I planned a trip with her and went to Mexico with her. On our last day in Mexico, she was in tears thinking she would not see me again, and we did see each other again in fact have several times.[/QUOTE]I think I might already have congratulated you, or I do it now. You go be with her. I think I have already said that this might last 2, 4, 7 years but it's worth it. I think also, that now you are out of scope for this site, at least for the time being.
I have been absent from here too for the duration of relationships. And then came back when it got bad. I had 7 years of a 10, and now she annoys me to no end, because she is just so unable to understand me and constantly offended by me, makes shit up, and I am done being her bad guy. Fuck it. No 10 is worth that. It's an experience. So now I am back, but I never was a good monger. I have, in fact, described myself as an "LTR addict" and I'm going to work on that this year.
You say a girl asking money to be with us is insulting. I was going to say good for you that your #10 didn't find it insulting that you slipped the 300 kCOP into her purse. But you are certainly right that mongering P4P has something insulting and demeaning for us men. Almost always. Especially these starfish experiences are horrible in my book. Now, there is where the difference comes in. A girl is in the business, and it is clear she is, and the 400 kCOP per night is actually the semi-pro rate as I have now found out. The full pros sometimes ask for a lot more 800 kCOP or so. Although the full pros do not provide better service, or so I doubt. The semis are like open to get emotional by themselves, if they like you somewhat they become sweet. And that's what I like. I once had one of those from the agency in Rio. It was nice, she looked at me right off the bat and decided she liked me. I also had one who started right out when first sitting on my lap saying she didn't like me. That was of course shit going forward.
I am trying to train myself to depend less on that. To totally do a different attitude when they don't like me and don't get sweet. To just give a fuck in that case and pull through anyway and enjoy that aspect of it.
Anyway, enjoy your girlfriend and consider keeping her and don't fuck around unnecessarily. Just keep an eye on whether she actually sees you as you. Good luck.
[QUOTE=StinkySquid;2571178]I also had one who started right out when first sitting on my lap saying she didn't like me. That was of course shit going forward.[/QUOTE]I was not there. But she was sitting on your lap. So I don't think a hooker would sit on a customer's lap and be serious telling them that they did not like them.
You know how many non-pro chicks have said they did not like me? My answer is you are not supposed to like me. But then they can't get enough of me. Chicks say that I am arrogant or act arrogant and for some reason that attracts them. I am not, but I just talk big shit to them when every other guy they know is busy kissing their ass, buying candy while I am buying condoms.
Chick in Bogota keeps telling me every day that she does not want to see or talk to me ever again. I say okay. The next day she is hitting me up asking how my day was. I already told the broad she was a nutcase, but she can't help herself. So next week I will be right back in her mouth and pussy.
[QUOTE=Matthew44;2570191]Also, any suggestions for a good place to take a date for dinner? My general plan was to meet with girls from Seeking (SA), and I was looking for places within walking distance from my rental. I am staying in an AirBnB right between Parque 93 and Zona T, so I am sure that there are a ton of great places. I found a listing for OSK Peru, which looks great, but struck out when trying to find a traditional steakhouse. Any suggestions?[/QUOTE]First off, read Routard's guide if you have not already: [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?3865-Bogota-FAQ&p=2241562[/URL]#post2241562.
It is ironic Matthew that Latinlover mentioned Andres. I was thinking that literally was the only above average meal I had in Bogota. It is really funny because Bogota has so many more better looking women than Mexico City or Lima, and those two cities blow Bogota out of the water food wise. I am like kind of laughing that maybe Bogota not being a culinary mecca is a good thing because it keeps the women from being fat which is much more of a problem in those other two cities. LOL.
One of the reasons maybe I feel that way about the food though is because I usually stay at the Bogota Marriott near the airport and the food is so fucking good there other restaurants are a disappointment. The breakfast is to die for, and the steak restaurant there is great: [URL]https://www.theplacetobecolombia.com/bogota-gastronomia/factory-steak-lobster-bogota/[/URL].
I get why you are staying in the Parque 93 area. I stayed at Parque 97 suites the second time I was in Bogota, but I should probably do a [URL]seeking.com[/URL] guide for you.
First off, Matthew, you do not have to wine and dine the women in Colombia. There is no one date rule like in the USA where you do meet and greet and then the second date you have sex. You meet the women and fuck them that day. They will be DTF or not.
Do not even do dinner. Maybe for a second date, it is okay. Coffee is fine or I would just meet the women at the hotel diner. Parque 97 was a fine place to meet women, dine and fuck, but the room itself got cold at night. I do not think they even had heat.
Thing about where you staying is that it has the reputation of being the nicer area, but the traffic is kind of a pain and you are far from the airport.
I have done most if not all the tourist stuff in Bogota, and you can probably do it in a day or two days max. There really is not a can't miss thing in Bogota outside of the women so you can just travel to the touristy stuff if you want.
If you want to do the high end clubs and marriage parlors, you are in the right place. For seeking chicks, I am not so sure. Thing is that you are kind of far from Santa Fe and honestly you can fuck just as hot and as good in the seedy joints there as you can anywhere else, and Santa Fe is active even in the afternoon. My favorite gal there works 12 to 5 PM. Unlike the Zona T region, Santa Fe is a dump but the women look as good and perform just as well as the higher end places. I would use SF as a backup if a seeking date does not pan out.
First time I went to Bogota I was at Hotel Ibis, and the rooms are Motel 6 like which is fine for bringing back the SF working girls, but the women I met from seeking were not all down to fuck when I was there. The women have their doubts about you then.
My favorite hotel in Bogota is the Bogota Marriott near the airport. Thing is you look up the price and it is $162 a night, and you are probably at $50 or so a night at your airbnb. That is $100 a day you could spend on women.
But if you go to [URL]Marriott.com[/URL] and you click on the deals and packages portion and pay in advance, the rate goes to around $100. But what you have is a fantastic breakfast, no steep transportation costs to the airport, a great gym, and a fabulous indoor pool with a hot tub. The TV allows you to hook to a Netflix account where you can use Spanish subtitles and watch TV together and the climate control is great. Also you are 15,20 minutes from Santa Fe, and there is a Juan Valdez within walking distance if you want to meet your prospect there. I would typically meet women at the hotel and walk to JV.
Thing is no one mentioned price when I was at the Marriott. They knew because I stayed there money was not going to be an issue for me, and it is kind of intimidating for Colombian women, a lot of whom live in unflattering quarters. So unlike the Ibis where the women's message was like "I need to get paid in advance if you are staying at a hotel like this" or even Parque 97 where the women were more like "I guess if you can afford to stay here, you are okay", the message at Bogota Marriott was, "Okay, I am going to be really lucky to fuck this guy. ".
I am sure there are other hotels that can make that statement too, but I do not know any there that are $100 a night. I registered for 2 people and had no problem brining in women. The hotels would check ID but that was it. The Marriott is not a place to bring back a Santa Fe working girl, but it is great for a seeking girl, and I really recommend you stay there for your first trip. The added expense is well worth it.
With the breakfast, gym, pool, hot tub, and Netflix on the TV, I had no problem having a great time with my women all while keeping them well fed and entertained, and I really recommend there if you are hunting women from seeking.
I've got a weeks vacation coming up and decided to go back to Bogota. I was considering Cartegena but between the girls being fewer, more expensive and the relentless touts bothering you I decided against it. It was a tough decision because I would have liked to have been near an ocean this time.
I'd like the boards thoughts on a few things.
1. I really enjoyed Mezzanine and will go again. What other similiar places are nearby that are open? I prefer to stay in Chapinero area as I liked it. Anyone recommend a hotel in this area?
2. Santa Fe just doesn't do it for me. The knocks after five minutes are just too annoying. However I love the seediness of it. Any alternatives to Santa Fe?
3. Colombian Cupid and Seeking. Is it worth it if I want to meet non pros? I've been very interested in a Black Colombia girl to sample.
4. What else is their to do? Last time I was there I went to Mezzanine three times in a day. But there appears nothing else to do in Bogota. I did the tourist sites the first time but there is no ocean or cool mountains or anything. Would you suggest flying to Cartegena for a day or two?
Bottom line is I am looking to have an even better experience this time. And I will not be using my credit card. I'm not having my info stolen again.
Showdown.
[QUOTE=Jandara69;2570941]If price is not an issue I would recommend la Estancia Chica, a 5 min walk from Parque 93. My favorite steakhouse in Bogota by far, it's a traditional Argentinian steakhouse that serves imported US and Argentinian beef. The churrasco, mollejas and ojo de bife are a clear step above the regular Colombian beef served at, Andres Carne de Res, Carne e Vino, Hermes Carne de Res etc.[/QUOTE]I've been there a half dozen times or so, never realized that was the name. It's right around the corner from the hotel I've been staying in for 10 years. The steak is good and I would go there again just for the steak. A great place for me and my buddy to go for a great steak and a scotch mist, jaja However, it's like old school. Stuff shirt executive kinda steak house, The girls would prefer the vibe in Andres. The Lomo is good but the party scene and the dancing and the eclectic style is a night out to take a chick in Bogota, Again Chia is the place to be but DC is close and a lot of fun.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2570437]Well this is timely. Just flew into BOG Wednesday night. Happened to glance at the currency exchange rates. One place was giving 3620 and the other had 3630 per dollar. I believe the actual rate at the time was 3670. Usually the airport exchange rates suck, but that's not bad at all, especially if you're already at the airport and don't want to wait for the ATM.[/QUOTE]Tonight's rate at that currency exchange was 3620. I used my Schwab card in the Colpatria machine to get 900,000 4 times. Each time it took $239.76 from my account for a rate of 3753.75. There was not a wait at the ATM. I was the only one using it, while there were lines at the currency exchanges.
Just read that Colombia has just had the 100,000 deaths from covid and worse yet that each day about 11,000 new cases, not good and Bogota is the epicenter.
Please get vac before you come to Colombia, please.
The high rate of new cases and massive daily deaths are the result of the protests in the past 8 weeks, you don't need to be Sherlock Homes to understand that this was going to happen.
Stay safe.
The Tall Man.
[QUOTE=Showdown;2571339]I've got a weeks vacation coming up and decided to go back to Bogota. I was considering Cartegena but between the girls being fewer, more expensive and the relentless touts bothering you I decided against it. It was a tough decision because I would have liked to have been near an ocean this time.
I'd like the boards thoughts on a few things.
1. I really enjoyed Mezzanine and will go again. What other similiar places are nearby that are open? I prefer to stay in Chapinero area as I liked it. Anyone recommend a hotel in this area?
2. Santa Fe just doesn't do it for me. The knocks after five minutes are just too annoying. However I love the seediness of it. Any alternatives to Santa Fe?
3. Colombian Cupid and Seeking. Is it worth it if I want to meet non pros? I've been very interested in a Black Colombia girl to sample.
4. What else is their to do? Last time I was there I went to Mezzanine three times in a day. But there appears nothing else to do in Bogota. I did the tourist sites the first time but there is no ocean or cool mountains or anything. Would you suggest flying to Cartegena for a day or two?[/QUOTE]Not sure if they still have it, but there used to be Gringo night Tuesday nights in Bogota. I think the actual club location where it's held changes so you'll have to look it up. It's basically just a normal dance club but had some of the hottest women I've ever seen. The girls that show up are not working girls, but it's still a fun time.
There are no alternatives to Santa Fe area. There is a red light district called Primera de Mayo or something like that Southwest of Santa Fe area, but mostly ugly girls there. And if they realize your a foreigner, the touts will swarm you. There really aren't any middle priced clubs in Bogota like Face Dos in Medellin. Only the cheap Santa Fe girls and the expensive clubs in the North. Pussy House in Chapinero used to be pretty good, but sounds like it's been turned into a clip joint and not worth visiting.
If you haven't checked out Lidos in the North, I would check it out just for fun. The girls there are stunning but expensive. There is a 200 K COP "bar fine" to take them out and they'll probably charge 500 K or more per night, varies based on the girl. I've only pulled one girl there and she charged 400 K COP for 2 hours. There is also Flirt Hotel. You don't actually have to stay there to session with the girls, but you do need to call them ahead of time and make an appointment to visit. It is run like a super high end casa, where the girls line up and you choose one. Girls varied from 8 to 9.5 on hotness scale. 600 K for 30 min, or 900 K for 1 hour. Rooms you session in are like a 5 star hotel. These are good places to check out if you have a big budget to work with.
If you're bored of Bogota, wouldn't hurt to visit Cartegena for a couple days as flights within Colombia are cheap and you can book with expedia. Beaches in Cartegena are crap except for Playa Blanca. There are tours that take you there for a day trip by bus. Girls can be found at the clock tower area and nearby clubs. They are a lot more expensive than Santa Fe girls.
I've never tried seeking arrangement but I'm also curious if it's worth the time investment. Seems like a good way to get access to the college girls. I'm also curious if it's worth trying in the US or whether it's just too expensive.
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2571203]First off, read Routard's guide if you have not already: [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?3865-Bogota-FAQ&p=2241562[/URL]#post2241562.
It is ironic Matthew that Latinlover mentioned Andres. I was thinking that literally was the only above average meal I had in Bogota. It is really funny because Bogota has so many more better looking women than Mexico City or Lima, and those two cities blow Bogota out of the water food wise. I am like kind of laughing that maybe Bogota not being a culinary mecca is a good thing because it keeps the women from being fat which is much more of a problem in those other two cities. LOL.[/QUOTE]Was just in Mexico City and have to agree with what you said. High end restaurant scene was amazing and although I didn't try any street food, it also looked great. I will say that Bogota restaurants are about half the price of Mexico City restaurants so that's a big advantage. For high end sushi places like Osaka in Bogota, the prices are the same anywhere you go. There is a place called Brutos in Chaperino that has excellent seafood and is a great place to take a girl for dinner.
I was not impressed with the girls in Mexico City. Even in the high end malls I rarely saw any hot girls. There were hot girls in the strip clubs but a lot of those were likely Colombians and Venezuelans. Contrast that to Bogota where there are hot girls everywhere you go, especially in the rich areas.
As far as hotels, I agree Ibis is a nice clean hotel on a budget and close to Santa Fe. The rooms are tiny though so I wouldn't feel comfortable bringing a girl there for all night, maybe for a short session. Always book hotels for two because it only costs a couple dollars extra and then you won't have issues with bringing girls back. I've heard mention of hotel San Francisco, but even though it's right by Santa Fe, I wouldn't recommend it as it's too low end. You have to use old school metal keys and the safes are the old kind that are difficult to operate. I wouldn't even consider bringing a girl there.
A little further away from Santa Fe area is Hotel Bicentanario. This is where I usually stay. It's reasonably priced with nice modern large rooms. The only issue I have with this place is that any time you enter the place a security guard has to open the door for you. I often get back late at night after spending the day in Santa Fe so I end up having to wake up the usually sleeping security guard to let me in, it's annoying for both parties.
Haven't stayed at the Marriot yet but may check it out on the next trip. If I'm staying in the North, I'll usually stay at Dann Carlton hotel and spa. This place is pretty high end but worth the price. It has a swimming pool with hot tub and sauna and The breakfast is amazing. They require a swimming cap in order to use the pool so bring one from home if you plan to stay at this hotel. It's pretty easy to bring girls here as you can avoid the front desk, although they request that you check in any guests. If you plan on calling girls from escort sites, this is a pretty good hotel to stay at.
Keep in mind that traffic in Bogota is bad from 9 AM to 7 PM, it can take an hour to cross the city by taxi or uber. The ubers are ridiculously cheap, but it can be a lot of wasted time for you or any girl coming to you if she has to cross the city in the day time. At night time, it's very fast to get anywhere.
[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2571548]Just read that Colombia has just had the 100,000 deaths from covid and worse yet that each day about 11,000 new cases, not good and Bogota is the epicenter.
Please get vac before you come to Colombia, please.
The high rate of new cases and massive daily deaths are the result of the protests in the past 8 weeks, you don't need to be Sherlock Homes to understand that this was going to happen.
Stay safe.
The Tall Man.[/QUOTE]I hope you found a way to get vaccinated friend. I am & I will be in Bogota Friday. In Medellin July 5. The economic suffering / demonstrations I hope are getting better. People need to do what they can to help each other and bear with this scourge.
[QUOTE=DonCarlos1234;2571641]I hope you found a way to get vaccinated friend. I am & I will be in Bogota Friday. In Medellin July 5. The economic suffering / demonstrations I hope are getting better. People need to do what they can to help each other and bear with this scourge.[/QUOTE]Hello DonCarlos, yes I had my first shot over a month ago and the second booster schedule for one month as I got the AstraZeneca (12 weeks apart) here in Medellin.
So I am buying my time and hanging around my home city of Medellin until the booster.
Be safe and enjoy your visit and perhaps we will meet again in Medellin (myself and others have been trying to keep the chicas happy since your last visit in 20202 hehehehe).
The Tall Man.
[QUOTE=Showdown;2571339]I've got a weeks vacation coming up and decided to go back to Bogota. I was considering Cartegena but between the girls being fewer, more expensive and the relentless touts bothering you I decided against it. It was a tough decision because I would have liked to have been near an ocean this time.
I'd like the boards thoughts on a few things.
1. I really enjoyed Mezzanine and will go again. What other similiar places are nearby that are open? I prefer to stay in Chapinero area as I liked it. Anyone recommend a hotel in this area?
2. Santa Fe just doesn't do it for me. The knocks after five minutes are just too annoying. However I love the seediness of it. Any alternatives to Santa Fe?
3. Colombian Cupid and Seeking. Is it worth it if I want to meet non pros? I've been very interested in a Black Colombia girl to sample.[/QUOTE]Unfortunately, the pandemic has shut down some lots of things to do. But some of my favorites are still around. If you have a favorite girl to hang out with, go to the cinema in Unicentro Bogota, they have a state of art movies there with 4 D. Also I always try and do some horseback riding with my girl. It's just up the mountain from calle 92 why carrera 7. There are 3 or 4 stables all on the road up the mountain. The trail will take you up the mountain top with an amazing view of Bogota down below. If your really adventurous, take the all day ride to Monserrate on horseback. On the way back down hit the restaurant called Trimonti the foods decent but the view as you dine on the mountain side is great, Ask for a table near the window.
SA is expensive and you need to do some prospecting to separate the scams and prepagos from the real SB. Cons: Bogota has gotten dangerous as have all the cities in Colombia, Cali is a disaster, Ctg. Is hot, the beach is slightly better than mud and expensive. Medellin is more dangerous than ever. So my advice is Bogota, find a girl or 2 you like sending time with, stay more to the north.
If your flying solo, I enjoy the casinos. I hit the jackpot in Broadway Casino for 2. 5 million, a nice score for the Colombian casinos.
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2570807].... I met a woman off seeking, and she was a 10 and a 10 in bed to boot....[/QUOTE]That's marriage material.
[QUOTE=LatinaLover#1;2571679]Unfortunately, the pandemic has shut down some lots of things to do. But some of my favorites are still around. If you have a favorite girl to hang out with, go to the cinema in Unicentro Bogota, they have a state of art movies there with 4 D. Also I always try and do some horseback riding with my girl. It's just up the mountain from calle 92 why carrera 7. There are 3 or 4 stables all on the road up the mountain. The trail will take you up the mountain top with an amazing view of Bogota down below. If your really adventurous, take the all day ride to Monserrate on horseback. On the way back down hit the restaurant called Trimonti the foods decent but the view as you dine on the mountain side is great, Ask for a table near the window.
SA is expensive and you need to do some prospecting to separate the scams and prepagos from the real SB. Cons: Bogota has gotten dangerous as have all the cities in Colombia, Cali is a disaster, Ctg. Is hot, the beach is slightly better than mud and expensive. Medellin is more dangerous than ever. So my advice is Bogota, find a girl or 2 you like sending time with, stay more to the north.
If your flying solo, I enjoy the casinos. I hit the jackpot in Broadway Casino for 2. 5 million, a nice score for the Colombian casinos.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info. It is appreciated.
With all that you said would you even recommend Bogota at this time? How is it measured that Bogota is more dangerous that it was when I came in Nov of last year?
Too bad about Cartegena. It would be nice if the beach was better and the mongering also.
So if not Bogota where? I have had too many bad experiences in the DR to return there.
Showdown.
Hey LatinaLover!
In regards to SA being expensive. Are you referring to the membership, or the prices that girls from SA ask for? For context, I'm beginning to plan my first trip to Colombia in August and am thinking about using SA to build some prospects before arriving. I'd be very interested in hearing more about your experience using SA in Colombia and to get my expectations set appropriately as for a generic prices SA chicas quote and what to expect generally from chicas from SA.
[QUOTE=LatinaLover#1;2571679]Unfortunately, the pandemic has shut down some lots of things to do. But some of my favorites are still around. If you have a favorite girl to hang out with, go to the cinema in Unicentro Bogota, they have a state of art movies there with 4 D. Also I always try and do some horseback riding with my girl. It's just up the mountain from calle 92 why carrera 7. There are 3 or 4 stables all on the road up the mountain. The trail will take you up the mountain top with an amazing view of Bogota down below. If your really adventurous, take the all day ride to Monserrate on horseback. On the way back down hit the restaurant called Trimonti the foods decent but the view as you dine on the mountain side is great, Ask for a table near the window.
SA is expensive and you need to do some prospecting to separate the scams and prepagos from the real SB. Cons: Bogota has gotten dangerous as have all the cities in Colombia, Cali is a disaster, Ctg. Is hot, the beach is slightly better than mud and expensive. Medellin is more dangerous than ever. So my advice is Bogota, find a girl or 2 you like sending time with, stay more to the north.
If your flying solo, I enjoy the casinos. I hit the jackpot in Broadway Casino for 2. 5 million, a nice score for the Colombian casinos.[/QUOTE]
Santa Fe last night was slow, seems this morning it was more active.any local pro wingmen up for fun, I am at Troya right now.... Please inbox me🤪.
[QUOTE=Mikecct;2571816]Hey LatinaLover!
In regards to SA being expensive. Are you referring to the membership, or the prices that girls from SA ask for? For context, I'm beginning to plan my first trip to Colombia in August and am thinking about using SA to build some prospects before arriving. I'd be very interested in hearing more about your experience using SA in Colombia and to get my expectations set appropriately as for a generic prices SA chicas quote and what to expect generally from chicas from SA.[/QUOTE]Expensive because when I first signed up a few years back it was like 60 bucks but they continued to increase the price every year to the now 100 a month, that's high for any dating sight. Also the amount of scammers on the sight and prepagos. I haven't sessioned with a prepago for years now. The recurring problem with the sight is the profiles, not sure if they are real or not but lots of them want your information and then disappear. I've seen sooo many profiles be on one city today and another city far away the next day and another city the day after that, so obviously it was scammers. You can weed out a few good ones on there but don't start out to early before your trip, lots of them will disappear before you ever get to Bogotá. I've gathered a handful of really special women that I have remained in contact with so I seem to have more women to see than I have time now. I have a serious novia now for the last 4 years so I only get the chance to see one or two of them every other trip nowadays. Happy hunting.
Does anyone know why I see all the posts in a single column all the way to the right of the page? Some posts are a single letter per line. I sent a pm to Admin. But as of yet I have not heard anything!
[QUOTE=GringoTrooper;2571168]What does a 10 look like to you (feel free to post a picture with her face blurred out or a celebrity that she resembles)?[/QUOTE]I was looking for celebrity doppelgangers and I found this photo: [URL]https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2380635/Hana-Nitsche-steals-VERY-revealing-pink-gown-boyfriend-Russell-Simmons-charity-event.html[/URL].
Yeah, she is kind of a female version of Russell Simmons right down to the bow tie. LOL.
No, she looks very similar to Hana Nitsche with regards to height and weight. HN is more gymnast and body builder toned than my gal and does not have the boob job that HN has. My gal has a more sleek runner's physique and looks like she could run 5 miles as easily as you could walk one. HN does not have the cool unapproachable look that many models has, but my gal looks even more open. To me, she has the friendly open caring vibe of a Price is Right Model and like one of those models, she could make a can opener look sexy with the way she would touch it. With a boob job, my gal is one of the few in the world that could wear that dress HN is wearing and make it look as good. She usually wears more flattering bras but you could not get away with that with that dress.
A friend of mine told me something I had not thought of. When it comes to HN or my gal, who are five nine or five ten and weigh in the 120 to 125 range, he said there are at most 100 women in every state that look like that. I was thinking about it, and sure Texas and California would have more, but on average, I was thinking he was probably right.
When I friend my gal's picture, he said she was a 10. Then he corrected himself, "She is a 9. 5. With a boob job, she would be a 10", and I agree with that. Good thing is that she is open to getting one.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2571710]That's marriage material.[/QUOTE]And she is sweet, fun, and nice to boot. I think we are all looking for something better. Hell, that is why so many of us go to Colombia. When I found her like I said, you are too good to be true, and what is your end game? I was thinking she was playing the long game, but I realized why she was seeing me, and I saw why her affection was genuine.
Like everyone else, I went to Colombia in search of better looking and better performing at a reasonable price. I finally accepted that I was a monger for life, that the greatest pussy in the world was always going to be the next girl. Of course, right after that, I found this gal. So yeah, I am going to be cautious but I am going to lock her up when the time is right. And the good thing is she wants it too.
I never thought that I would say about a woman again, "Nah, I do not give a fuck how much airline tickets cost as long as we are together" or "I am not going to sleep with another woman and risk losing her". I never thought I would say or think that.
[QUOTE=GringoTrooper;2571168]As this is subjective, I consider Penelope Cruz, Salma Hayek, Jessica Alba (in their primes) to be 9's.
I'd say maybe Adrianna Lima, and a couple other Brazilian Victoria's Secret models (in their primes) to be 10's.
I'm just curious to know what kind of score she is.[/QUOTE]PC may be a little better looking than the typical Argentine beauty but my brother said it best about Argentina. That country may have more 8's than anywhere else in the world but I never saw a 10 there. So PC is just one step above the typical Argentine beauty IMO.
SH has a classic Mexican frame that is about as good as can get. JA has more of the thinner Spanish frame and is the spinner type I go for. I can see why you would put her as a 9 but at her best, I might call her a 10.
With Adrianna Lima, she has a Brazilian frame and both my brother and I agreed that the country with the best looking women in Latin America was Brazil, and the best looking women in Brazil were in Sao Paulo not Rio. The irony about Colombia is that overall the women in Argentina were more attractive but Colombia had more 10's than Argentina.
Thing about Colombia is where are they? When my brother and I first came to Colombia, we went to the high end clubs, and the women there wanted more money, performed worse, and did not look as good as their Argentine counterparts. So what makes Colombia and Bogota special is on the low end. But you are not going to find a 10 in the strip clubs at least not in Bogota. I saw two in Medellin but none in Bogota clubs.
The first 10 I saw in Colombia was at a bank. There was a secretary there, and she looked a lot like my gal. She was tall, thin, vivacious and had legs to the moon. Ironically, in Bolivia, we met with a super sweet bank manager who was close to a 10 as well.
When I told my gal what the women in Barranquilla told me their salaries were, one was a bank teller and the other an engineer, she scoffed and said they were lying. My gal is an assistant to a government higher up and I have been amazed at how well jobs in Colombian government pays versus the private sector. I have a feeling that secretarial / assistant pool is where you may find a lot of 10's. I think Colombian bosses like their hot assistants.
Like so many other people I have been in a self imposed quarantine. I am retired and normally I travel to SA at least 5 times a year. The virus isn't the only thing that held me back but it looks like I will be free to travel in the middle of July. I have been to Bogata one time in fact that was my last trip returning 23 Dec. 2019. I think about my experience in Santa Fe often. I wondered about that 4 block area waiting for one of the clubs to open. In all of my travels I have never seen anything like it. Police cars and police patrolling the streets. Back then I never felt insecure.
I read many posts from members that I think live in Bogota and maybe in the Santa Fe area. I am not asking for your or advice on the situation in Santa Fe I have seen your many posts. Actually, I am so excited about coming back to Santa Fe I just want to say here I come.
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2572261]I was looking for celebrity doppelgangers and I found this photo: [URL]https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2380635/Hana-Nitsche-steals-VERY-revealing-pink-gown-boyfriend-Russell-Simmons-charity-event.html[/URL].
Yeah, she is kind of a female version of Russell Simmons right down to the bow tie. LOL.
No, she looks very similar to Hana Nitsche with regards to height and weight. HN is more gymnast and body builder toned than my gal and does not have the boob job that HN has. My gal has a more sleek runner's physique and looks like she could run 5 miles as easily as you could walk one. HN does not have the cool unapproachable look that many models has, but my gal looks even more open. To me, she has the friendly open caring vibe of a Price is Right Model and like one of those models, she could make a can opener look sexy with the way she would touch it. With a boob job, my gal is one of the few in the world that could wear that dress HN is wearing and make it look as good. She usually wears more flattering bras but you could not get away with that with that dress.
A friend of mine told me something I had not thought of. When it comes to HN or my gal, who are five nine or five ten and weigh in the 120 to 125 range, he said there are at most 100 women in every state that look like that. I was thinking about it, and sure Texas and California would have more, but on average, I was thinking he was probably right..[/QUOTE]There are 10's in Bogota but they are not for you and me, they are for the richest local narcos.
During my last trip I was one night in chapinero, going out of the pussy house. Close to this cheap club is another one I think call the 49. I went in and it was empty, was around midnight. The waiter told me it was still early, girls were downstairs preparing themselves and customers would join soon. The waiter proposed me to go downstairs in the lodge to see the quality of the girls by myself. He escorted me downstairs and here we go, I have seen the most beautiful 10's ever, that was crazy. I went back upstairs and ordered a beer waiting for the beautiful ladies to come upstairs but the only one who came where average GNDs, all the beauties were staying in their lodge. After something like 1 hour while the waiters were insisting to sell me more drinks, I decided to leave. As I was ready to leave a group a local guys came in, you could see they had money and they wanted to throw it away. Few min later, the best beauties came upstairs and joined the group of narcos. I went back to my hotel. I thought that to access those girls you need to be seen by the club as a guy who is able to put big bucks on the table and suddenly, you become the king and the beauties appears from the dark but, that might cost you a fortune.
For those into takeout full GFE experience like me, I recommend [URL]eroticasbogota.com[/URL]. I recently tried 3 ladies from there and all were as advertised, very accurate pics and description. All were good but my best experience was with Zaira ([URL]https://eroticasbogota.com/modelo/zaira/[/URL]), a fiery ride and speaks very good English.
Going on a mongering holiday / vacation mid August (after my second Covid jab) and if I can't get into Brazil, my next choice is Colombia and I'm edging towards Bogota rather than Medellin.
I prefer the colder weather, it's much easier to get to from where I live and looks like it will be cheaper overall. The one thing putting me off is the dreaded knock on the door. I take medication that makes me last a while and would need closer to 30 minutes than 10.
Is it easy to arrange this with the ST hotels if you pay extra, even double or will they still try to rush you out?
All info / opinions are pre-pandemic. All during spring and fall time periods.
[QUOTE=SoberHans69;2572879]Going on a mongering holiday / vacation mid August (after my second Covid jab) and if I can't get into Brazil, my next choice is Colombia[/QUOTE]I'm waiting for Bogota's ICU number to go below X%, where bars and clubs are allowed to open.
[QUOTE=SoberHans69;2572879]I prefer the colder weather[/QUOTE]Me too. I prefer the weather in Bogota over Medellin. Most people prefer Medellin's weather. In Bogota, it's perfect weather to walk around during a sunny day in jeans and shirt. At nighttime, it can get chilly; you need a light jacket. In Medellin, it's hot when you walk around during a sunny day in jeans and shirt. At nighttime, it's perfect.
[QUOTE=SoberHans69;2572879]The one thing putting me off is the dreaded knock on the door. I take medication that makes me last a while and would need closer to 30 minutes than 10.
Is it easy to arrange this with the ST hotels if you pay extra, even double or will they still try to rush you out?[/QUOTE]- Numerous ways to avoid / delay that dreaded knock.
- Your idea will work. Get the hour from the ST hotel. You will pay a little extra. Of course, you also have to negotiate an hour with the girl.
- Also, the first knock is just a warning. It depends on the girl if she wants you to quickly finish, or continue until the second knock.
- My worst experiences with the early knock has been with the strip clubs. At Troya and Venus.
- Tipping the cleaning person has been hit and miss. Didn't work at the strip joints.
- If you are a regular at a ST hotel, the guy might give you the entire 30 minutes.
- The early knock also depends on which ST hotel you use. I've gotten early knocks in Medellin, contrary to what other people wrote. You should go to where the locals go to. There, the early knock shouldn't happen. In Medellin Santa Cruz, the second ST hotel on Calle 51 west of Carrera 53 is good. In Bogota Santa Fe, Residencias Villa Real is good. It might be a few pesos more. But it's clean. And they allow in Venezuelans. Even the girls think it's a nice one.
[QUOTE=GreenBud;2573033]All info / opinions are pre-pandemic. All during spring and fall time periods.
I'm waiting for Bogota's ICU number to go below X%, where bars and clubs are allowed to open.
Me too. I prefer the weather in Bogota over Medellin. Most people prefer Medellin's weather. In Bogota, it's perfect weather to walk around during a sunny day in jeans and shirt. At nighttime, it can get chilly; you need a light jacket. In Medellin, it's hot when you walk around during a sunny day in jeans and shirt. At nighttime, it's perfect.
- Numerous ways to avoid / delay that dreaded knock.
- Your idea will work. Get the hour from the ST hotel. You will pay a little extra. Of course, you also have to negotiate an hour with the girl.
- Also, the first knock is just a warning. It depends on the girl if she wants you to quickly finish, or continue until the second knock.
- My worst experiences with the early knock has been with the strip clubs. At Troya and Venus.
- Tipping the cleaning person has been hit and miss. Didn't work at the strip joints.
- If you are a regular at a ST hotel, the guy might give you the entire 30 minutes..[/QUOTE]Thanks Greenbud for the detailed reply, appreciate it.
You can always put more clothes on when your cold but can't do anything if you're too hot.
My pale white ass can't handle too much heat. The heat in Thailand kills me.
[QUOTE=SoberHans69;2572879]Going on a mongering holiday / vacation mid August (after my second Covid jab) and if I can't get into Brazil, my next choice is Colombia and I'm edging towards Bogota rather than Medellin.
I prefer the colder weather, it's much easier to get to from where I live and looks like it will be cheaper overall. The one thing putting me off is the dreaded knock on the door. I take medication that makes me last a while and would need closer to 30 minutes than 10.
Is it easy to arrange this with the ST hotels if you pay extra, even double or will they still try to rush you out?[/QUOTE]Well I hope you can take the rain with your cold. Why do guys keep talking about a knock on the door? You negotiate the time you want. If you want 1 hour then ask for the price of the girl and the room for 1 hour. Then set the stopwatch on your watch. Simple.
Why would you not be able to get into Brazil?
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2573091]Well I hope you can take the rain with your cold. Why do guys keep talking about a knock on the door? You negotiate the time you want. If you want 1 hour then ask for the price of the girl and the room for 1 hour. Then set the stopwatch on your watch. Simple.
Why would you not be able to get into Brazil?[/QUOTE]A little bit rain doesn't bother me, I'm used to it, thanks for the advice about the time.
I'm in England and anyone who has been in England over the previous 14 days Is currently banned from entering Brazil. Hopefully that will change by August but need a back up plan.
[QUOTE=SoberHans69;2572879]if you pay extra, even double or will they still try to rush you out?[/QUOTE]You want to do that only with the girls you know well and get along with.
[QUOTE=SilverTurtle;2573364]You want to do that only with the girls you know well and get along with.[/QUOTE]Thank you, suppose if I can't finish in 10 minutes, I could just do three different girls in a row.
Anyone know if Woodman is on Vacay? Tried his #'s and email. Nada,
OK here's my 1st day / night in BOG. Made an arrangement with an extremely hot 20 yr old student. She came 2 hours late. My spanish is poor but we ordered a bottle from the bar and head up to my room here in Virrey. Security & front desk are so stunned looking at her they don't ask for ID. I forgot my mask (happens a lot) she does also. We make out in the elevator. Did not expect to be doing deepthroat 5 min into the date. We talk and I help her to undress. She has a strong will and is passionate. I blindfold her, put the dildo in, get her ready and cum in her face while titty fucking her and with the dildo. A few positions later she falls in love with the dildo and I watch till she squirts the bed. I had some negligees and string type outfits that I bought for gifts so I got an X rated Victoria's secret fashion show watching her try them all on, and me photographing it. . which created the need for a second round. More details and photos when time permits. I just had a 10 Seeking girl bail on me so I am looking for Woodman.
I've been going back and forth between Boca Chica (I atleast wanted to be near a beach) and going back to Bogota. I just pulled the trigger for tickets back to Bogota.
I am going to stay at Dann Carlton Hotel and Spa which is nearly right across the street from my favorite place on my last trip Mezzanine. I'd like to pound every girl there before I leave LOL. I deally I can walk across the street, pound one, walk back across the street and recharge in the room and repeat.
With that said what other casa are around Mezzanine that I can enjoy and partake? I recall last time several were closed. I'm not going to Santa Fe this time. I prefer the casas.
Also I really want to connect with a local girl this time. I have always enjoyed doing that and having these girls show me where they live and other things. Call it the adventurer in me. What app\website is best to connect with non pros that we all know will have sex for money? I have been very interested in a black Colombiana.
Also what's the closest place to Dann Carlton Hotel and Spa to get the COVID test before returning to the states? And I need to use that Migcheck COVID app again correct?
P.S. I splurged on a room with a balcony. ID like to enjoy the breeze and lights at night if possible while I watch episodes of The Shield on my laptop.
Showdown.
[QUOTE=Showdown;2573509]I've been going back and forth between Boca Chica (I atleast wanted to be near a beach) and going back to Bogota. I just pulled the trigger for tickets back to Bogota.[/QUOTE]What is the difference if you can only be at the beach (or outside for that matter) before 3 pm? You can always make a side trip here to Santa Marta or to Cartagena (or take a chick to San Andres if you want a superb beach.) Even though you do get kicked off the beach here at 6, but at least you don't have to go in at the kicked off beach hour like you are on punishment as you would in Boca Chica.
[QUOTE=Showdown;2573509]What app\website is best to connect with non pros that we all know will have sex for money?[/QUOTE]This is where I lose it with mongers. Why do you guys insist on making hookers out of chicks that are not hookers? The very definition of non-pro is a chick that does not have sex for money. Save your payment for hookers and stop trying to ruin normal chicks. I had to beg this chick to come to Santa Marta with me. She did not want to come because she did not have enough money to pay her part. That is what a non-pro is. Most normal dating sites are ruined because of mongers trying to make hookers out of everyone or assuming that they are already hookers.
[QUOTE=Showdown;2573509]With that said what other casa are around Mezzanine that I can enjoy and partake? I recall last time several were closed. I'm not going to Santa Fe this time. I prefer the casas.[/QUOTE]Try Paradise Spa at Cra. 17 # 70 A-80. It's about 5 kilometers away from Mezzanine. It's not very close, but it's a lot closer than Santa Fe.
This was previously known as one of the two locations of Rosquillas, but was renamed Paradise Spa. The other location is at CL. 64 ##15-30. DavidSchmauch reviewed Rosquillas in this forum in August 2018.
I will send you a private message with contact information for this casa.
[QUOTE=Showdown;2573509]I've been going back and forth between Boca Chica (I atleast wanted to be near a beach) and going back to Bogota. I just pulled the trigger for tickets back to Bogota.
I am going to stay at Dann Carlton Hotel and Spa which is nearly right across the street from my favorite place on my last trip Mezzanine. I'd like to pound every girl there before I leave LOL. I deally I can walk across the street, pound one, walk back across the street and recharge in the room and repeat.
With that said what other casa are around Mezzanine that I can enjoy and partake? I recall last time several were closed. I'm not going to Santa Fe this time. I prefer the casas.
Also I really want to connect with a local girl this time. I have always enjoyed doing that and having these girls show me where they live and other things. Call it the adventurer in me. What app\website is best to connect with non pros that we all know will have sex for money? I have been very interested in a black Colombiana.
Also what's the closest place to Dann Carlton Hotel and Spa to get the COVID test before returning to the states? And I need to use that Migcheck COVID app again correct?
P.S. I splurged on a room with a balcony. ID like to enjoy the breeze and lights at night if possible while I watch episodes of The Shield on my laptop.
Showdown.[/QUOTE]Hey Showdown, A good place to start is Unicentro Bogotá, a 10 minute walk north from your hotel. If you haven't been there it's a very modern mall, if the signs were in English you would think you were in a top notch mall in the USA. Tons of young women walking all over the place. Most are just window shopping because the money is tight and they need to get out of the house. All you have to do is stop one who looks good and ask if they can help you find a cambio or some other bullshit and if you have any game you can get her to have coffee with you or a beer upstairs at the Peruvian restaurant. And if they speak English. Some will, if not, you need to use your Española no matter how bad. Most will be curious because you are gringo. I've done well here with students and 30 something hotties. Shopping alone. Use it as your cooling off time between the 3 or 4 mezzanine massages, better here than in your hotel room alone!! You just might surprise yourself, there are half dozen casinos in the mall. Also to take your shot. If you have any game I am sure you will land a few. The best part of Bogota is the 9 million people, half of them women, a rich target for us, I like those odds. Let us know how you make out. Good luck and be safe. It's very safe in the mall and the surrounding area so no worries.
Dammit! I wanted to scout out places and share some experiences. But after my first all-nighter I started takin girls from SA on lunch dates. And I focused on those who seemed the least professional and the least about just demanding gifts (some of those who say they want a sugar daddy are really out of their minds!) But there are some non-pros there. And I picked them. Took them out just to feel the chemistry because I do not enjoy sex without the chemistry. Even my first one, while nice, didn't really kiss to my satisfaction. So, I had 4 dates and the second one grew on me as one worth to be wooed over outside of transactional sex. So there I am, I am not a good monger. Sorry. For the time being there will be no further reports from me.
But I will say one last thing for now: Bogota is the best place, hands down. The largest offerings of variety. Medellin a few years ago had its charm, but Bogota has just more in sheer volume, that means you have a better chance of getting what you want.
[QUOTE=StinkySquid;2573540]Dammit! I wanted to scout out places and share some experiences. But after my first all-nighter I started takin girls from SA on lunch dates. And I focused on those who seemed the least professional and the least about just demanding gifts (some of those who say they want a sugar daddy are really out of their minds!) But there are some non-pros there. And I picked them. Took them out just to feel the chemistry because I do not enjoy sex without the chemistry. Even my first one, while nice, didn't really kiss to my satisfaction. So, I had 4 dates and the second one grew on me as one worth to be wooed over outside of transactional sex. So there I am, I am not a good monger. Sorry. For the time being there will be no further reports from me.
But I will say one last thing for now: Bogota is the best place, hands down. The largest offerings of variety. Medellin a few years ago had its charm, but Bogota has just more in sheer volume, that means you have a better chance of getting what you want.[/QUOTE]Sounds fine to me if you don't mind putting in time.
Bogota definitely has more chicas. It's a much larger city. But a lot of us prefer Medellin because it has better weather and is generally friendlier and easier to navigate.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2573513]What is the difference if you can only be at the beach (or outside for that matter) before 3 pm? You can always make a side trip here to Santa Marta or to Cartagena (or take a chick to San Andres if you want a superb beach.) Even though you do get kicked off the beach here at 6, but at least you don't have to go in at the kicked off beach hour like you are on punishment as you would in Boca Chica.
This is where I lose it with mongers. Why do you guys insist on making hookers out of chicks that are not hookers? The very definition of non-pro is a chick that does not have sex for money. Save your payment for hookers and stop trying to ruin normal chicks. I had to beg this chick to come to Santa Marta with me. She did not want to come because she did not have enough money to pay her part. That is what a non-pro is. Most normal dating sites are ruined because of mongers trying to make hookers out of everyone or assuming that they are already hookers.[/QUOTE]Mr E Santa Marta is nowhere near Bogata (its near Cartegena from what I can see on the map). Can I assume your suggestion is to take a day trip there via a quick flight from Bogota?
Also those beach photos-is that Santa Marta?
Showdown.
[QUOTE=LatinaLover#1;2573533]Hey Showdown, A good place to start is Unicentro Bogot, a 10 minute walk north from your hotel. If you haven't been there it's a very modern mall, if the signs were in English you would think you were in a top notch mall in the USA. Tons of young women walking all over the place. Most are just window shopping because the money is tight and they need to get out of the house. All you have to do is stop one who looks good and ask if they can help you find a cambio or some other bullshit and if you have any game you can get her to have coffee with you or a beer upstairs at the Peruvian restaurant. And if they speak English. Some will, if not, you need to use your Espaola no matter how bad. Most will be curious because you are gringo. I've done well here with students and 30 something hotties. Shopping alone. Use it as your cooling off time between the 3 or 4 mezzanine massages, better here than in your hotel room alone!! You just might surprise yourself, there are half dozen casinos in the mall. Also to take your shot. If you have any game I am sure you will land a few. The best part of Bogota is the 9 million people, half of them women, a rich target for us, I like those odds. Let us know how you make out. Good luck and be safe. It's very safe in the mall and the surrounding area so no worries.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the tip for someplace to go between Mezzanine massages. I am going to make this area my stomping ground while I am here so any casa within a short Uber ride I am going to take advantage of. I speak Spanish so I will try my trade at the mall and see what happens.
Showdown.
Forgot one thing. I told you of my two pre-pago flirts over WhatsApp, where I think I did nice for my taste with the one I had over night on my first night. My point was, that having some heart in the conversation leading up to the deal is a good predictor of a good time. There was the other one I had flirted with, a 23 year old who looks like 18 in the pictures, who is apparently also an Onlyfans starlet. I was super curious to try her out. Last night I was ready after I had a dinner with an SA girl who I found out was 17 and a half, which of course meant no activities after a decent dinner and conversation. So I called that girl over who I had previously flirted with and was so eager to have, who seems to be an Onlyfans starlet. Sadly she didn't respond until way after I already slept. And she kept talking about some weird platform and a service contract. Weird. Still not sure it's actually the starlet or just a rip-off. Anyway, I just told her that I won't be doing it after all, but I really wanted her and it was her fault for not responding when I first came in. Told her now I am staying sober because I am working on my novia. She was really nice to me once again an wished me well. I just love to relate to the girls. I know, I'm doing it all wrong.
[QUOTE=Combo;2573542]Sounds fine to me if you don't mind putting in time.
Bogota definitely has more chicas. It's a much larger city. But a lot of us prefer Medellin because it has better weather and is generally friendlier and easier to navigate.[/QUOTE]I usually always prefer the bigger city, Bogota is awesome.
I prefer Bogota weather to MDE any day, as far as friendlier?
That's a tuff call if you're talking about the putas, many of them in SF are mercenary scammers in cahoots with the scamming st hotels, but some are really sweet.
The same could be said for MDE.
If I could only visit one place or live in one of those cities, I would have to select Bogota!!
I love Latinas the most of any putas, but if you compare them to Asia.
They win in just about every category, except femininity, and honesty.
I would say almost 100% of Asian putas are feminine (at least those I've met) it may 50/50 in Latin America.
And the fuckery of Latina putas is legendary, the shrinkage loss % of sessions can be anywhere from 10-50%.
In Asia its close to 0% for me.
Many say Asia is a feminine culture which begets feminine putas.
Conversely Latin America is a masculine culture (and narco culture in many places) and begets masculine putas, not all but way too many.
My "weird science perfect puta" would be a Latina body and face with an Asian persona.
I really love the obsequious nature of the Asian female and the raw sexuality of the Latina.
[QUOTE=Showdown;2573509]I've been going back and forth between Boca Chica (I atleast wanted to be near a beach) and going back to Bogota. I just pulled the trigger for tickets back to Bogota.
I am going to stay at Dann Carlton Hotel and Spa which is nearly right across the street from my favorite place on my last trip Mezzanine. I'd like to pound every girl there before I leave LOL. I deally I can walk across the street, pound one, walk back across the street and recharge in the room and repeat.
With that said what other casa are around Mezzanine that I can enjoy and partake? I recall last time several were closed. I'm not going to Santa Fe this time. I prefer the casas.
Also I really want to connect with a local girl this time. I have always enjoyed doing that and having these girls show me where they live and other things. Call it the adventurer in me. What app\website is best to connect with non pros that we all know will have sex for money? I have been very interested in a black Colombiana.
Also what's the closest place to Dann Carlton Hotel and Spa to get the COVID test before returning to the states? And I need to use that Migcheck COVID app again correct?
P.S. I splurged on a room with a balcony. ID like to enjoy the breeze and lights at night if possible while I watch episodes of The Shield on my laptop.
Showdown.[/QUOTE]Hi Showdown,
How is the hotel Dann Carlton?
I would give a try but do they accept visit of chicas? And do they a robust internet connection as I may need to have to do a bit of work and zoom calls.
[QUOTE=Showdown;2573579]Mr E Santa Marta is nowhere near Bogata (its near Cartegena from what I can see on the map). Can I assume your suggestion is to take a day trip there via a quick flight from Bogota?
Also those beach photos-is that Santa Marta?[/QUOTE]Yeah. Plane tickets have always been pretty cheap around Colombia. In some cases the plane is cheaper than the bus. You can even buy last minute without breaking the bank. Using Avianca I would go on this version of the site though. This is the Colombian version and it gives cheaper prices. [URL]https://www.avianca.com/co/es/[/URL].
Correct. I am in the El Rodadero area of Santa Marta right now, but heading back to Barranquilla this afternoon.
[QUOTE=LatinaLover#1;2573533]...All you have to do is stop one who looks good and ask if they can help you find a cambio or some other bullshit and if you have any game you can get her to have coffee with you or a beer upstairs at the Peruvian restaurant. And if they speak English. Some will, if not, you need to use your Espaola no matter how bad. Most will be curious because you are gringo. I've done well here with students and 30 something hotties.....[/QUOTE]You've banged these students and hotties? I take it you're under 50.
[QUOTE=Showdown;2573509]I've been going back and forth between Boca Chica (I atleast wanted to be near a beach) and going back to Bogota. I just pulled the trigger for tickets back to Bogota.
I am going to stay at Dann Carlton Hotel and Spa which is nearly right across the street from my favorite place on my last trip Mezzanine. I'd like to pound every girl there before I leave LOL. I deally I can walk across the street, pound one, walk back across the street and recharge in the room and repeat.
Showdown.[/QUOTE]Is the Dann Carlton good and is it girlfriendly?
This was just one bullshit ad but there are lots of them:
Cris 322xxxx786, nueva para estrenar, 18 años why en promocióand.
Hola amor me llamo Cris, te cuento que soy una linda prepago pelinegra deseosa de mucho sexo, soy ninfómana why me gusta hacerlo en todas las poses. No tengo tabúes en la cama, hagamos tu fantasía realidad, quiero que te sientas como mi novio. Tambiéand.
I think that the best thing to do is see if they offer domicilo, if not then avoid. Tires of this shit.
[QUOTE=Prelude141;2573901]Is the Dann Carlton good and is it girlfriendly?[/QUOTE]I am not sure about girl friendly. But I walked through the lobby after one of my sessions at Mezzanine across the street and it is a nice hotel. It has balconies for some of the rooms as well which is something I would like to have this time around. You don't find many hotels with balconies in Bogota.
Showdown.
[QUOTE=DonCarlos1234;2573490]Anyone know if Woodman is on Vacay? Tried his #'s and email. Nada,
OK here's my 1st day / night in BOG. Made an arrangement with an extremely hot 20 yr old student. She came 2 hours late. My spanish is poor but we ordered a bottle from the bar and head up to my room here in Virrey. Security & front desk are so stunned looking at her they don't ask for ID. I forgot my mask (happens a lot) she does also. We make out in the elevator. Did not expect to be doing deepthroat 5 min into the date. We talk and I help her to undress. She has a strong will and is passionate. I blindfold her, put the dildo in, get her ready and cum in her face while titty fucking her and with the dildo. A few positions later she falls in love with the dildo and I watch till she squirts the bed. I had some negligees and string type outfits that I bought for gifts so I got an X rated Victoria's secret fashion show watching her try them all on, and me photographing it. . which created the need for a second round. More details and photos when time permits. I just had a 10 Seeking girl bail on me so I am looking for Woodman.[/QUOTE]Good to see that you got back to Colombia DonCarlos!
And has anyone seen Woodman?
Are you out there Woodman?
Hope your safe and blessed!
The Tall Man.
Just out of curiosity what is the prevalence or even existence of Black or Asian girls available in Bogota? Especially at places like Mezzanine?
Also are their FKK style places around? I like Mezzanine style places but getting a great massage with our without sex and being able to sit down in between sessions would be nice.
Showdown.
[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2574108]Good to see that you got back to Colombia DonCarlos!
And has anyone seen Woodman?
Are you out there Woodman?
Hope your safe and blessed!
The Tall Man.[/QUOTE]Yes. Tall Man, Medellin is next. Woodman was doing his other business but he came out for a few. We relieved previous fun and I went upstairs with a 9 (I could not believe it!) I found her while hitting all the clubs. 150 K girl, 50 K room for 40 min. Woodman saved me $. Also ran into another friend I met in December. Not an ISG person but lives near Santa Fe, Still trying toi shake off altitude sickness, about to take some cialis, I read up the ED meds can help. More later, meeting a ballet dancer now.
I have my eyes set for Colombia when I travel in Late August. Newbie to international mongering but I'm a native speaker so I figure I can do well.
I'm having trouble deciding Bogota or Medellin. Anyone care to describe the differences for me? Which city is more fun? I'm a young guy that like to party.
Thanks in advance.
[QUOTE=Showdown;2574054]I am not sure about girl friendly. But I walked through the lobby after one of my sessions at Mezzanine across the street and it is a nice hotel. It has balconies for some of the rooms as well which is something I would like to have this time around. You don't find many hotels with balconies in Bogota.
Showdown.[/QUOTE]I've stayed at Dann Carlton several times and it's girl friendly, but make sure to book for two. They will suggest you check in any visitors, but you can easily avoid the front desk to bring a girl up if you want to. There are a couple elevators in the hotel and you use the one opposite side from the front desk to sneak a girl in. There is a nice sauna / pool area in the hotel and you will need to check your girl in if you want to visit the pool area with her. Also, they make you wear a shower cap to use the pool so you have to bring one with you. Don't miss out on breakfast as it's great.
I've never been to Mezzanine and didn't realize it was so close to this hotel. I'll need to visit next trip. The club Lidos is also in that area but the girls there are expensive.
[QUOTE=Swann124;2574236]I have my eyes set for Colombia when I travel in Late August. Newbie to international mongering but I'm a native speaker so I figure I can do well.
I'm having trouble deciding Bogota or Medellin. Anyone care to describe the differences for me? Which city is more fun? I'm a young guy that like to party.
Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]Read the forum. I posted a huge report about the pros / cons of both.
[QUOTE=Showdown;2574138]Just out of curiosity what is the prevalence or even existence of Black or Asian girls available in Bogota? Especially at places like Mezzanine?
Also are their FKK style places around? I like Mezzanine style places but getting a great massage with our without sex and being able to sit down in between sessions would be nice.
Showdown.[/QUOTE]None, None, and None.
This hotel is close to perfect in terms of price and modernity. It is even nicer than the Hyatt Place I stay at whenever I'm in Tijuana. They are very girl friendly. I've been bringing up 3 different SA girls every day and haven't had a problem registering them at the front desk. They are generous with extra towels. And the climate control and internet are great.
Now for the (relatively minor) negatives:
1. I thought I would be able to avoid the walk of shame altogether by simply taking girls straight up to my room. I got away with it once. But the second time, the doorman ratted me out. I must have been on camera because the front desk called me at my room to come down and register my guest.
2. This place is a long way from everything.
3. The food choices on Rappi are limited and Domicilios doesn't even deliver to the area. Even the nearby Hilton doesn't have a very good restaurant. At least not one that approaches the main Hilton in Chapinero.
[QUOTE=Blade2001;2574324]I've stayed at Dann Carlton several times and it's girl friendly, but make sure to book for two. They will suggest you check in any visitors, but you can easily avoid the front desk to bring a girl up if you want to. There are a couple elevators in the hotel and you use the one opposite side from the front desk to sneak a girl in. There is a nice sauna / pool area in the hotel and you will need to check your girl in if you want to visit the pool area with her. Also, they make you wear a shower cap to use the pool so you have to bring one with you. Don't miss out on breakfast as it's great.
I've never been to Mezzanine and didn't realize it was so close to this hotel. I'll need to visit next trip. The club Lidos is also in that area but the girls there are expensive.[/QUOTE]There are actually 2 hotels Dann Carlton. First one called hotel Dann Carlton 4 stars and the second one is casa Dann Carlton hotel and spa 5 star. Which one are you referring to?
[QUOTE=DonCarlos1234;2574210]Yes. Tall Man, Medellin is next. Woodman was doing his other business but he came out for a few. We relieved previous fun and I went upstairs with a 9 (I could not believe it!) I found her while hitting all the clubs. 150 K girl, 50 K room for 40 min. Woodman saved me $. Also ran into another friend I met in December. Not an ISG person but lives near Santa Fe, Still trying toi shake off altitude sickness, about to take some cialis, I read up the ED meds can help. More later, meeting a ballet dancer now.[/QUOTE]Excellent!
Yes I always have struggled with higher altitudes even on my first visits to Bogota 30 years ago when I was in top physical condition and now 30 years later still takes my body about a week to adjust and then the sleeplessness and constant headache wanes away. So being in shape physically has much less to do with just how our individual bodies adjust, no rhyme or reason.
My last trip to Bogota was in October 2020 and I tried a prescription drug called Acetazolamide and it seemed to help.
Have fun and what a lucky man with your 9 you scored at the club.
The Tall Man.
[QUOTE=Prelude141;2574629]There are actually 2 hotels Dann Carlton. First one called hotel Dann Carlton 4 stars and the second one is casa Dann Carlton hotel and spa 5 star. Which one are you referring to?[/QUOTE]Not totally girl friendly. Daytime no problem. After 6 you can pay extra or just walk past and pretend it's your wife. If you try to sneak, could backfire. 15 No. 103-60 4 star & very nice. Better location then 5 star.
[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2574880]Excellent!
Yes I always have struggled with higher altitudes even on my first visits to Bogota 30 years ago when I was in top physical condition and now 30 years later still takes my body about a week to adjust and then the sleeplessness and constant headache wanes away. So being in shape physically has much less to do with just how our individual bodies adjust, no rhyme or reason.
My last trip to Bogota was in October 2020 and I tried a prescription drug called Acetazolamide and it seemed to help.
Have fun and what a lucky man with your 9 you scored at the club.
The Tall Man.[/QUOTE]We will be at high elevation next week at La Isla.
[QUOTE=Prelude141;2574629]There are actually 2 hotels Dann Carlton. First one called hotel Dann Carlton 4 stars and the second one is casa Dann Carlton hotel and spa 5 star. Which one are you referring to?[/QUOTE]Dann Carlton Hotel and Spa. I think I've also stayed at Dann Carlton hotel but defiinitely prefer Dann Carlton Hotel and Spa.
[QUOTE=DonCarlos1234;2575086]We will be at high elevation next week at La Isla.[/QUOTE]I'm glad someone brought up elevation (about 8,400 ft) in Bogota. Every time I've traveled there I've been hit with extreme fatigue for several days after I returned back to sea level. It was strange in that I would be fine the whole trip while in Bogota, even hiking up Monserate with no issue. However, after I got back to sea level I would be hit with severe fatigue for several days. The first time this happened I thought that I must have caught some virus or something, but after subsequent trips it became apparent is was the elevation. The plus side was I would always lose a few pounds from walking around at the high elevation.
I was recently in Mexico city which has an elevation of about 7,300 ft but had no ill effects there or when returning to sea level. I had lost a significant amount of weight prior to visiting Mexico city so that may have been a factor. I'm hoping to visit Bogota again in July and it will be interesting to see if this weight loss has cured the post trip elevation fatigue I've experienced after every previous Bogota trip.
[QUOTE=Blade2001;2575145]I'm glad someone brought up elevation (about 8,400 ft) in Bogota. Every time I've traveled there I've been hit with extreme fatigue for several days after I returned back to sea level. [/QUOTE]Isn't that backwards? Some athletes train at high elevation so they can kick ass at sea level where there is more air to breathe. The higher you go, the quicker you will experience hypoxia and pass out. You are saying that having more oxygen makes you more tired??
[QUOTE=Blade2001;2575141]Dann Carlton Hotel and Spa. I think I've also stayed at Dann Carlton hotel but defiinitely prefer Dann Carlton Hotel and Spa.[/QUOTE][URL]https://g.page/danncarltonbogota?share[/URL]
Almost directly across the street from Mezzanine.
Showdown.
[QUOTE=Zeos1;2574585]None, None, and None.[/QUOTE]Thanks. I did see black girls in Santa Fe but never any of the casas.
By the way-are the casas open on Sundays?
Showdown.
[QUOTE=Showdown;2575243][URL]https://g.page/danncarltonbogota?share[/URL]
Almost directly across the street from Mezzanine.
Showdown.[/QUOTE]This one yes, very close to mezzanine but blade2001 is referring to the other one slightly more in the south. Not sure will one I will pick next time I m there are both have correct to good reports and are obviously girl friendly. I usually would prefer to stay in chapinero center to be close to all the casas but. Anything north Virrey is a bit far for me but at the same time a nice 5 stars hotel is appealing.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2575216]Isn't that backwards? Some athletes train at high elevation so they can kick ass at sea level where there is more air to breathe. The higher you go, the quicker you will experience hypoxia and pass out. You are saying that having more oxygen makes you more tired??[/QUOTE]You've got it right- that's why the Olympic Training Center is in Colorado Springs. Not saying he's not tired at sea level, but it's not due to less oxygen at sea level.
[QUOTE=Blade2001;2575145]I'm glad someone brought up elevation (about 8,400 ft) in Bogota. Every time I've traveled there I've been hit with extreme fatigue for several days after I returned back to sea level. It was strange in that I would be fine the whole trip while in Bogota, even hiking up Monserrate with no issue. However, after I got back to sea level I would be hit with severe fatigue for several days. The first time this happened I thought that I must have caught some virus or something, but after subsequent trips it became apparent is was the elevation. The plus side was I would always lose a few pounds from walking around at the high elevation.[/QUOTE]That is interesting. There are quite a few changes that happen with high altitude and the one that probably is affecting you is something called 2,3 BPG:[URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2[/URL], 3-Bisphosphoglyceric_acid#cite_note-hyperthyroidism2004-3.
When you go up to higher altitude levels, the amount of 2,3 BPG goes up very quickly. Higher 2,3 BPG cause a red blood cell to have a decreased affinity for oxygen which sounds like you have less oxygen but that is not correct. With more 2,3 BPG, you have more available oxygen to use as it is not stuck to the red blood cell.
The amount of 2,3 BPG can vary a lot from person to person as there are conditions that can cause less or more of it. Higher thyroid for example means more 2,3 BPG and lower thyroid means lower levels.
Given that you can go hiking so quickly at Monserrate, it suggests to me you form high levels of 2,3 BPG very quickly and your cells have more oxygen available to them than the average person. Then you can to a lower altitude, you have lower levels of 2,3 BPG and have much less free oxygen running around which could cause fatigue.
Overweight people have higher levels of 2,3 BPG so it will be interesting to see if your weight loss has an effect. It might be worth having your doctor check your thyroid too.
I think I have a more normal response with my 2,3 BPG levels because when I have gone from Bogota to a city with a lower altitude I immediately feel better. It is interesting though that one of the reason Colombianas may be thinner than women in other countries is that you burn more calories at a higher altitude and there is going to be a different effect when you eat carbohydrates high up as well. There is a really good chance that people have less carb craving at higher altitudes because the carbs do not make you feel as good as at lower altitudes.
[QUOTE=DonCarlos1234;2574210]Yes. Tall Man, Medellin is next. Woodman was doing his other business but he came out for a few. We relieved previous fun and I went upstairs with a 9 (I could not believe it!) I found her while hitting all the clubs. 150 K girl, 50 K room for 40 min. Woodman saved me $. Also ran into another friend I met in December. Not an ISG person but lives near Santa Fe, Still trying toi shake off altitude sickness, about to take some cialis, I read up the ED meds can help. More later, meeting a ballet dancer now.[/QUOTE]Can somebody message me woodmans WhatsApp? Flying in tomorrow and want to schedule a tour!
My evening SA date flaked on me so I headed to Santa Fe. Again, I was disappointed. I had a blast in Santa Fe in October and January. But it seemed like slim pickings last night. The south stroll had nothing. There were a few attractive girls around the clubs but not many and I didn't see anything that made me want to take a seat at any of the bars. Several of my Venezuelan friends have returned home for one reason or another. I wonder if this accounts for the relative lack of talent. You would think the difficult times in Colombia would inspire more girls to take to Santa Fe. Maybe they are all on Seeking.
One other item of note: there were a lot more young men wandering around seemingly up to no good.
[QUOTE=ShadowJ;2575630]My evening SA date flaked on me so I headed to Santa Fe. Again, I was disappointed. I had a blast in Santa Fe in October and January. But it seemed like slim pickings last night. The south stroll had nothing. There were a few attractive girls around the clubs but not many and I didn't see anything that made me want to take a seat at any of the bars. Several of my Venezuelan friends have returned home for one reason or another. I wonder if this accounts for the relative lack of talent. You would think the difficult times in Colombia would inspire more girls to take to Santa Fe. Maybe they are all on Seeking.
One other item of note: there were a lot more young men wandering around seemingly up to no good.[/QUOTE]I was there in the early afternoon yesterday. Not a single girl I would bang. I thought it was too early (around 1:00 PM), but it looks like at night it sucks as well. Seeking sucks too, read my recent post in SA thread. They are flaky and don't need our business. I have been to Colombia many times, but this time is the worst, despite great exchange rate and the fact that everything is back to normal, no protests or curfews. I got here from Rio, and it is day and night in terms of the talent, but I have to admit the hottest girls in Rio are non-pros.
If anyone would like to share good/verified SA contacts, please PM me.