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Visting Berlin in a few months
I'll be in Berlin in a few months, and, as per my tradition, I'm sharing my plan in advance. I've read http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4033-The-Berlin-Sex-Scene.-A-Beginner-s-Guide, and it has been useful.
I'll be there for a week, and I plan to spend most of my time at FKK Artemis. Most of my FKK type experiences have been at Sharks in Frankfurt ([URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?3225-FKK-Sharks-Darmstadt&p=2885971&viewfull=1[/URL]#post2885971) and Globe Club in Zurich ([URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4017-Globe-Club&p=2886000&viewfull=1[/URL]#post2886000).
So, 90 percent of my time will be fucking in FKK Artemis and the remaining ten percent will be split between one flat rate club (probably King George), a brothel (probably Kamilla Dee, Royal, Monrouge, Liberty, Tiffany, Gina's Tango Rosa or Herz), a couple of hours in a sex cinema kino (probably PaolasSexKino), and one girl from an escort agency. I might try a gang bang party, but I plan to avoid strip clubs and street prostitutes.
I've read back a few pages, and the consensus seems to be that FKK Artemis isn't "what is used to be", but I find that to be true in most places around the world.
I tend to fuck four to five girls a day so I plan to fuck two or three girls in FKK Artemis and then try one of the other options each day.
What am I missing? Is there a sexual experience that is not to be missed while I'm in Berlin?
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Re: Visting Berlin in a few months
[QUOTE=Atanion;2902765]So, 90 percent of my time will be fucking in FKK Artemis and the remaining ten percent will be split between one flat rate club (probably King George), a brothel (probably Kamilla Dee, Royal, Monrouge, Liberty, Tiffany, Gina's Tango Rosa or Herz), a couple of hours in a sex cinema kino (probably PaolasSexKino), and one girl from an escort agency. I might try a gang bang party, but I plan to avoid strip clubs and street prostitutes.
[/QUOTE]I wonder, what you will do after the actions later in the afternoon?
I suggest, to repeat your question, when the trip is actual coming. The scene is very fluid. Todays advice is tomorrows warning.
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[QUOTE=Atanion;2902765]I'll be in Berlin in a few months, and, as per my tradition, I'm sharing my plan in advance.[/QUOTE]Great tradition-competes with Festivus from Seinfeld.
[QUOTE]So, 90 percent of my time will be fucking in FKK Artemis and the remaining ten percent will be split between one flat rate club (probably King George), a brothel (probably Kamilla Dee, Royal, Monrouge, Liberty, Tiffany, Gina's Tango Rosa or Herz), a couple of hours in a sex cinema kino (probably PaolasSexKino), and one girl from an escort agency. I might try a gang bang party, but I plan to avoid strip clubs and street prostitutes.[/QUOTE]Still useful article is old. Some clubs have closed (Kamilla Dee, Tiffany, Monrouge only escort; you must always check websites. Maybe also check % times. Recommend 27% Artemis.
[QUOTE]I tend to fuck four to five girls a day so I plan to fuck two or three girls in FKK Artemis and then try one of the other options each day.[/QUOTE]Good to know; thanks for sharing.
[QUOTE]What am I missing? Is there a sexual experience that is not to be missed while I'm in Berlin?[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.exberliner.com/english-news-berlin/passenger-bites-ticket-inspector-gesundbrunnen-u8-ubahn/[/URL]
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[QUOTE=Piefke;2902858]I wonder, what you will do after the actions later in the afternoon?
I suggest, to repeat your question, when the trip is actual coming. The scene is very fluid. Todays advice is tomorrows warning.[/QUOTE]I'll be in Berlin for work so I'll be doing that when I'm not fucking a spinner or two somewhere in the city.
My trip is still a few months away. I'll monitor this forum and update my plan accordingly.
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Thanks
[QUOTE=NookyNinja;2902872]you must always check websites. Maybe also check % times. Recommend 27% Artemis.[/QUOTE]Yep, I'll definitely check websites and continue to monitor this forum.
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One more to what NN said.
[QUOTE=NookyNinja;2902872]
[URL]https://www.exberliner.com/english-news-berlin/passenger-bites-ticket-inspector-gesundbrunnen-u8-ubahn/[/URL][/QUOTE]Another great place to start might be this website. They have all the ranges. From Dom to Devot. I've found the studio very responsive to requests. Phantessa (spelling?) is noteworthy
[URL]https://bdsm-studio-lux.de/[/URL]
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[QUOTE=Atanion;2902765]I'll be in Berlin in a few months, and, as per my tradition, I'm sharing my plan in advance. I've read http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4033-The-Berlin-Sex-Scene.-A-Beginner-s-Guide, and it has been useful.
I'll be there for a week, and I plan to spend most of my time at FKK Artemis. Most of my FKK type experiences have been at Sharks in Frankfurt ([URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?3225-FKK-Sharks-Darmstadt&p=2885971&viewfull=1[/URL]#post2885971) and Globe Club in Zurich ([URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4017-Globe-Club&p=2886000&viewfull=1[/URL]#post2886000).
So, 90 percent of my time will be fucking in FKK Artemis and the remaining ten percent will be split between one flat rate club (probably King George), a brothel (probably Kamilla Dee, Royal, Monrouge, Liberty, Tiffany, Gina's Tango Rosa or Herz), a couple of hours in a sex cinema kino (probably PaolasSexKino), and one girl from an escort agency. I might try a gang bang party, but I plan to avoid strip clubs and street prostitutes.[/QUOTE]Many here won't agree with me but I seldom had a great time in Berlin. Only fond memory was a Latvian MILF many years ago. Idk what is wrong with people there, it might be that the once divided city (East / West) actually was happier when it was divided. But who am I to complain, I'm not even German. Anyways, good luck with that trip. Enjoy the city and Germany as much as you can.
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[QUOTE=Atanion;2902907]I'll be in Berlin for work so I'll be doing that when I'm not fucking a spinner or two somewhere in the city.[/QUOTE]You might contact user JonnyDanger for his experience. He had the same plan some months ago: Coming to Berlin for 2 weeks with a prepared list of girls names and shag them one by one (or together) until time or money runs out or the dick falls off. Whatever comes first.
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?668-Berlin&p=2853925&viewfull=1#post2853925[/URL]
Unfortunately there was never a public report about this epic Odyssee and his sole report about Artemis was a bit sketchy: 'shaged 3 girls, one was good, 2 were so lala'.
I hope your reports are more useful for others! Until then, please ask questions, when you have specific ones.
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[QUOTE=Piefke;2903519]You might contact user JonnyDanger for his experience. He had the same plan some months ago: Coming to Berlin for 2 weeks with a prepared list of girls names and shag them one by one (or together) until time or money runs out or the dick falls off. Whatever comes first.
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?668-Berlin&p=2853925&viewfull=1#post2853925[/URL]
Unfortunately there was never a public report about this epic Odyssee and his sole report about Artemis was a bit sketchy: 'shaged 3 girls, one was good, 2 were so lala'.
I hope your reports are more useful for others! Until then, please ask questions, when you have specific ones.[/QUOTE]LOL, I post a full report with links when I get home.
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New to Germany
Hello brothers.
Hope everyone are doing well.
I am new to Germany. I am from Asia.
So I actually got a new job offer in Hamburg in Germany in an IT industry.
As everyone knows in Germany everything is legal. So it would be great time to hookup with few European chicks there.
My question is:
1) Has anyone tried any birds in ladies. De website or mietmich. De website during your visit in Germany?
Is the ladies genuine as they claim in this site?
There are 400 + ladies on these sites offering service in their houses or their hotels.
It would be great if you could help with this issue.
Thank you in advance.
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[QUOTE=Yuvi100;2905038]So I actually got a new job offer in Hamburg in Germany in an IT industry.Has anyone tried any birds in ladies. De website or mietmich. De website during your visit in Germany? Is the ladies genuine as they claim in this site? [/QUOTE]Ladies. De genuine sometimes / often. Must always scan photos (Yandex, TinEye, Google) for image test and check specific girl name in [URL]https://huren-test-forum.lusthaus.cc[/URL] for actual reports.
But you live in Hamburg. More sense to post all in ISG Hamburg thread vs. Berlin. In Hamburg, this very useful [URL]https://www.modelle-hamburg.de/en/[/URL]. Good luck.
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Cheap Brothel cost
Hello mongers.
I wanted to know what the cost of brothels in Berlin is.
I have heard like it's around 50 euros for half an hour.
I wanted to know whether we can get any service less than 50 euros.
Does anyone know what will be the cost?
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[QUOTE=Yuvi100;2905927]Hello mongers.
I wanted to know what the cost of brothels in Berlin is.
I have heard like it's around 50 euros for half an hour.
I wanted to know whether we can get any service less than 50 euros.
Does anyone know what will be the cost?[/QUOTE]You're new to Germany. I suspect you are overwhelmed. 1) read the forum going back a few months. 2) go on berlinintim and scan by price 3) check out the street walking areas. The brothels are going to be more expensive but there are some cheaper locations outside of the center of town. If you are looking for cheaper alternatives check out the SEXKINO options. Berlin is a pricey city. Not like Frankfurt, if you want cheap try the RLD in Frankfurt.
And as they say: You get what you pay for.
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Truth or Fiction: Escort sites
Given the recent price increases noted for sex services, some of the budget escort sites seem to have kept their prices unchanged. Specifically.
[URL]www.escort-berlin.com[/URL]
[URL]www.escortinberlin.de[/URL]
[URL]www.myescortberlin.com[/URL]
Are these reliable sites? I would like to order from these sites to deliver to my hotel. The rates are 90 euro per hour including covered oral and change in position. I know that the girls add services for extra, but is it reasonable to expect good one hour service for 140 euro or so. I like 69. The "included" sevices list facesitting. Is that the same as 69? I would also like to try golden shower and that extra is only 10 euro more!
Thanks for the help.
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Re: Truth or Fiction: Escort sites
[QUOTE=Ak233;2906020]Given the recent price increases noted for sex services, some of the budget escort sites seem to have kept their prices unchanged. Specifically.
[URL]www.escort-berlin.com[/URL]
[URL]www.escortinberlin.de[/URL]
[URL]www.myescortberlin.com[/URL]
Are these reliable sites?[/QUOTE]These agencies, in fact always the same agency, is long in the business and works hard to keep its well-deserved reputation. Unfortunately delivering satisfying services is not included in its portofolio. The one or other exceptional working girl might exists, but usually these are on holidays, when you ask.
Please check out the search function here to find some hands-on experiences. If you like surprises, please go ahead.
I personally would rather look somewhere else and ask about specific girls.
P.S. : Check here for a lively dicussion about these sites (in german): [URL]https://huren-test-forum.lusthaus.cc/showthread.php?t=210869[/URL].
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Lucky in Berlin?
I've been reading the forum here for awhile, as I do for every place I visit, and it's always very helpful. In this case, I've either been very lucky or some reports are not quite accurate. I'm 2-for-2 on gorgeous women who delivered exceptional service for a decent price.
1. Julia from [URL]eurogirlsescort.com[/URL] came to my hotel yesterday, and for 180 euros gave me DFK, CBJ, and CFS with such feeling and connection I didn't want to let her go!
[URL]https://www.eurogirlsescort.com/escort/julia/691916/?list=sc15ll[/URL] She was tall, blonde, pretty, a wonderful kisser and a passionate lover.
2. Rita from [URL]https://www.escort-sex24.de/escort-rita-62649.html[/URL] was a tall Ukrainian blonde with a smile that never quit. She gave me DFK, BBBJ, and CFS for 150 euro. Two times included, but I took so long to get the pop that our hour was up. Another pop was not on the menu after the effort to get the first. Her kissing was equally as good but very different from Julia's.
I'm left wanting both of these women again (and again), but I don't think I've got another pop in me for a few days!! Fortunately I'm not going home until next week, so I might get another round with one or both. Contact was easy through WhattsApp, I've had many ladies respond to my inquiries. If you guys are finding it difficult to find real girls who deliver, for a decent price, I'm sorry but you are doing something wrong!
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[QUOTE=Ak233;2906020]Given the recent price increases noted for sex services, some of the budget escort sites seem to have kept their prices unchanged. Specifically.
[URL]www.escort-berlin.com[/URL]
[URL]www.escortinberlin.de[/URL]
[URL]www.myescortberlin.com[/URL]
Are these reliable sites? I would like to order from these sites to deliver to my hotel. The rates are 90 euro per hour including covered oral and change in position. I know that the girls add services for extra, but is it reasonable to expect good one hour service for 140 euro or so. I like 69. The "included" sevices list facesitting. Is that the same as 69? I would also like to try golden shower and that extra is only 10 euro more!
Thanks for the help.[/QUOTE]From personal experience these are hit and miss sites.
You might get lucky and find yourself a girl who does it says on her profile, but I found this to be rare so gave up on the gamble.
Better off spending a little bit more for a guaranteed service without the possible disapointment.
P. s facesitting is exactly what it says, she sits on your face, 69 = mutrual oral at the same time when you make a shape like 69 .
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Arina. Eastern european brunette MILF
Made a recent visit to Arina, a mid-thirties woman from eastern Europa. Speaks decent english. Pictures are correct, very friendly sensual lady. Slim, nice female attributes, decent underwear. She welcomes you in a clean private appartment near Chausee-street in Mitte. 120 E / h + small money for some gentle extras. Light kissing, french /69 and sex in 1-2 positions. Nice AST. She cared about my well-being. I was pleasantly surprised und plan to visit her again, before she goes home at the end of the month. She was in Berlin before, so she might come back. Telefon is changing, check the advert. WA contact with management, not direct.
[URL]https://www.berlinintim.com/gastmodell-arina-64556.html[/URL]
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Berlin Tour
Hi all,
I took the chance to visit Berlin last week as part of the Berliner Halbmarathon. 3rd visit to this incredible endless city and I can highly recommend to visit it, regardless of sex activities.
I am very accurate when it comes to sex preferences: I always look for GFE coming from independent escorts. I don't want to the girl 8th client today nor looking for "cum as much as you can" plan. The best encounter will be mutual pleasure from beautiful girls and yes, it's really important to me that the girl will have fun, too. I tend to make longer bookings (90 minutes the very least, and I have an history of a 5 h booking) and I love a long introduction. I think it's both rude and not satisfying to go directly into action. I scan a lot of profiles and always looking for photos with no face (I like the mystery), positive reviews and girls that write much about themselves (basically, I like the selective girls. Not only I feel exclusive, if I was on the other side, I'd probably go selective too).
Very much like Adultwork in the UK, Kaufmich is a great platform to satisfy my needs, with modern UI and you can even create and maintain your own profile. I met 3 girls during my body&mind trip:
Lori (origin: Czech / Poland):
[URL]https://www.kaufmich.com/p/best_of_berlin[/URL]
2 h 500 e outcall. Very tactile. She touches you a lot just because she likes it. She has a petite body and she likes to talk a lot about herself she likes to kiss and offered me a mutual shower which went great. She also offered a delicate prostate massage. As soon as I had an orgasm, she tried to re-erect me. We scheduled this meeting about a week before and communication went great. She was really east to schedule.
Leonnie (origin: Germany):
[URL]https://www.kaufmich.com/p/llleonie[/URL]
90 minutes 450 e outcall. Easy ongiong communication, though she needs strong verification that you are not a time waster (deposit, room number, actual photo of your room, etc.). I almost gave up, but the moment she entered the room I was extremly happy I didn't. She really enjoys sex and for about 90% of the time I was focusing in her pleasure. She became little sweaty and moaned a lot during our meeting. She looks great, she doesn't shave her pubic hair nor her armpits, and she has a great personality. Very down to earth. We both thoroughly joined our meeting together, ended up with a light dinner after action.
Katie (origin: Australia):
[URL]https://www.kaufmich.com/p/katie.spark[/URL]
120 minutes 400 e outcall. Easy communication, asked for a small deposit. I got back to my favorite type of body (petite, slim, small chest). I don't speak German and I never dated a girl from the 5th continent so I wanted to check things out. Strangely, I care about the origin of the girl, maybe I like stamping my sex passport! Nothing special to mention here. Just a regular sex date.
Until the next time, TomTheFlash.
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Insomnia Sex Parties as a Single Guy
How are the sex parties at Insomnia Berlin these days? I had a lot of fun before Covid during their Thursday partys. But the schedule seems to have changed a lot these days What day is the old Thursday party on?
Thank You.
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[QUOTE=RoyPunter;2909847]How are the sex parties at Insomnia Berlin these days? What day is the old Thursday party on?[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.insomnia-berlin.de/partys.html[/URL] (can change to English on site). Little info on local Lusthaus threads.
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Adda from Eurogirlsescorts what a women
Hi guys its my first post here,
I just met adda yesterday in my hotel. What a women.
The tits, super hot face, tanned body slim and super sexy. She did sex with condom blowjob withot condom and 2 rounds with me. I came on her tits after a fantastic sex and after a heavy doggystyle in condom, she speaks good english, originally a secretary worker from Romania. Highly recommend. 200 eur outcall taxi was included. Best regards.
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[QUOTE=JasonVegas;2910688]Hi guys its my first post here,...[/QUOTE]At JasonVegas, thank you for your detailed report.
Does the girl has an advert with contact details?
Did you pay money for the service? How much?
Does she work in Berlin at all?
Thanks!
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[QUOTE=Piefke;2910791]At JasonVegas, thank you for your detailed report.
Does the girl has an advert with contact details?
Did you pay money for the service? How much?
Does she work in Berlin at all?
Thanks![/QUOTE]Hey sorry I forgot to add it.
[URL]https://www.eurogirlsescort.com/escort/adda/621758/?list=86uakj[/URL]
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Berlin Hotels?
Seeking recommendations for a high-end, central, and anonymous hotel to host multiple escorts. I am considering using escort services while in Berlin. I expect I might have at least a few guests / girls each day and evening, thus looking for a place that is large enough not to care and is not interested in providing personalized service to me. In the past I have stayed at some luxe hotels and they all know your name and want to know how to help you plan your activities. I guess the ideal would be a business hotel that allows girls to go directly to my room (unlocked elevator), yet is clean, upscale, good bathroom and bed, and towels. Price is not an issue. I will be using the room myself so want it to be comfortable definitely avoiding the IKEA look.
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[QUOTE=Ak233;2911211]Seeking recommendations for a high-end, central, and anonymous hotel to host multiple escorts. I am considering using escort services while in Berlin. I expect I might have at least a few guests / girls each day and evening, thus looking for a place that is large enough not to care and is not interested in providing personalized service to me. In the past I have stayed at some luxe hotels and they all know your name and want to know how to help you plan your activities. I guess the ideal would be a business hotel that allows girls to go directly to my room (unlocked elevator), yet is clean, upscale, good bathroom and bed, and towels. Price is not an issue. I will be using the room myself so want it to be comfortable definitely avoiding the IKEA look.[/QUOTE]Hilton is a nice location, I've had a lot of success with. Lobby is large, there's a bar and restaurant open in the lobby as well. This and the size of the hotel yields a lot of foot traffic that makes it a nice place to come and go without interaction from staff unless you want it. Also there is a nice path from front doors to elevator without having to directly interact or walk by the front desk.
Good luck!
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Can anybody recommend some decent places to get an erotic massage?
The venues I've found by searching on Google are all 120 EUR p / h plus an additional 20 EUR for a prostate massage.
Is that the going rate? I kinda expected Berlin to be a bit cheaper than that.
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[QUOTE=Pyrrhus;2911561]The venues I've found by searching on Google are all 120 EUR p / h plus an additional 20 EUR for a prostate massage.
Is that the going rate? [/QUOTE]That is standard 1 hour market now. Can be more e. G. NGel / Paris. This is 110/ HR [URL]https://milena-massage-berlin.de/[/URL] Less minutes = less euros, if that is issue.
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Brothels in Berlin
Hello mongers,
Can anyone please post some good brothel links offering services at an affordable price.
I am looking for brothels which offers service for 40-50 euros for half an hour.
Thanks in advance.
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Re: Brothels in Berlin
[QUOTE=Yuvi100;2911757]I am looking for brothels which offers service for 40-50 euros for half an hour.[/QUOTE]Welcome to Berlin, Yuvi100!
Unfortunately you came 7-8 years too late!
The requested list contains 0 (in words: Zero) entries.
The closest seem to me:
[URL]https://fuchs-34.de/[/URL]
[URL]https://hauptstadtnummer.com/[/URL]
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[QUOTE=Yuvi100;2911757]I am looking for brothels which offers service for 40-50 euros for half an hour.[/QUOTE]We all have fantasies; Ninja looking for brothels who will pay him to participate.
Polish girls have several small flats east and west and claim to have new, reduced prices. You will have to call as they don't post. And their new website designed by North Korean AI.
But try: [URL]https://sb98.berlin/[/URL].
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[QUOTE=NookyNinja;2912231]But try: [URL]https://sb98.berlin/[/URL].[/QUOTE]Oh, the good old "klassemodelle". Their website structure gets more complicated every week.
[URL]https://klassemodelle.berlin/[/URL]
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Is it still possible to cheap or reasonably priced BJ's in Berlin. ? There was fairly some fairly hot SW's on Kurfenstrasse and some other streets. But om recent. YouTube videos. There very few girls. Working. Hopefully the action is better at night.
[QUOTE=Piefke;2912089]Welcome to Berlin, Yuvi100!
Unfortunately you came 7-8 years too late!
The requested list contains 0 (in words: Zero) entries.
The closest seem to me:
[URL]https://fuchs-34.de/[/URL]
[URL]https://hauptstadtnummer.com/[/URL][/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Hargow20;2912361]Is it still possible to cheap or reasonably priced BJ's in Berlin. ? There was fairly some fairly hot SW's on Kurfenstrasse and some other streets. But om recent. YouTube videos. There very few girls. Working.[/QUOTE]Short answer: No. Interesting grammar here. You must be very very very busy. Or AI disconnected to thumbs.
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More fun Berlin
1) Selinda Polish MILF:
Found her profile on Kaufmich and read very much positive revies on hurentest. So messaged her one fine evening. Met her at her place at Charlottenburg. She is abit aged around 40's, but she looks super stout and sexy figure with 6 feet height, with amazing blond hair. Did a quick shower and went on to bang.
Pros: very GF, polite, wild on bed, does everything.
BBBJ: super good.
Cat: strawberry flavor: the.
Price: 100 euro 45 min, twice.
Repeat: Hell yea.
[URL]https://www.kaufmich.com/p/selinda[/URL]
2) [URL]https://www.kaufmich.com/p/elenalore[/URL].
Elanalore: Spanish MILF.
Again read alot of positive reviews about her and met her near charlottenburg. She is in her 30's and looks super sexy for that age. Started with deep french kiss, BBBJ, cow girl etc.
Pros: Almost everthing, no time stress, very friendly, good DFK.
BBBJ: top.
Body: sexy perfect MILF.
Cat: tastes good.
Price: 120 euros+ a small perfume.
Repeat: yes ofc and on top of my list.
I have still big list which am going to try and will update here.
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Hilton Berlin
[QUOTE=Ak233;2911211]Seeking recommendations for a high-end, central, and anonymous hotel to host multiple escorts. I am considering using escort services while in Berlin. I expect I might have at least a few guests / girls each day and evening, thus looking for a place that is large enough not to care and is not interested in providing personalized service to me. In the past I have stayed at some luxe hotels and they all know your name and want to know how to help you plan your activities. I guess the ideal would be a business hotel that allows girls to go directly to my room (unlocked elevator), yet is clean, upscale, good bathroom and bed, and towels. Price is not an issue. I will be using the room myself so want it to be comfortable definitely avoiding the IKEA look.[/QUOTE]Thanks to BuckeyeNerd, the Hilton Berlin was a perfect choice. Decent business-class rooms, good bathroom. Unlocked elevator (at least the card reader was not activated) to allow any outside guests access to the hotel floors. Elevator was far enough away from the front desk to allow nearly anyone to enter. I would certainly recommend this hotel for the professional who wants to invite girls to their room. Price was about 250 euro per night.
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[QUOTE=Ak233;2914805]Thanks to BuckeyeNerd, the Hilton Berlin was a perfect choice. Decent business-class rooms, good bathroom. Unlocked elevator (at least the card reader was not activated) to allow any outside guests access to the hotel floors. Elevator was far enough away from the front desk to allow nearly anyone to enter. I would certainly recommend this hotel for the professional who wants to invite girls to their room. Price was about 250 euro per night.[/QUOTE]I saw your other posts on FKK visit. Thank you very much in keeping with my memory from last year but I would love to know your research into "take out" girls and if you visited any bordellos. Even if you found the clubs bad.
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[QUOTE=Ak233;2914805]Thanks to BuckeyeNerd, the Hilton Berlin was a perfect choice. Decent business-class rooms, good bathroom. Unlocked elevator (at least the card reader was not activated) to allow any outside guests access to the hotel floors. Elevator was far enough away from the front desk to allow nearly anyone to enter. I would certainly recommend this hotel for the professional who wants to invite girls to their room. Price was about 250 euro per night.[/QUOTE]Nice, I'm happy to hear that you found my advice helpful. I've really enjoyed that hotel, the open lobby is great for your purpose and for dropping by the bar for a drink or three before heading upstairs. Also in a good location. Best wishes on future travels!
One more tip I'll drop is the SO Das Stue next to the Tiergarten is also a very nice hotel for hobbyists. Stair access to rooms and in a great location near the zoo / Tiergarten. Front desk is tucked after the elevators and stairs so you can arrange meetings without traffic crossing the path of the front desk. Prices run higher because its a really nice hotel but its worth it if price / location check the boxes.
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Genuine about the cost?
Hello friends,
I had a doubt regarding the ladies. De website.
Are the girls there genuine about the prices they ask.
Do the girls demand more money to be paid after reaching their place?
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[QUOTE=Yuvi100;2915858]I had a doubt regarding the ladies. De website. Are the girls there genuine about the prices they ask. Do the girls demand more money to be paid after reaching their place?[/QUOTE]Impossible to generalize. Prices are roughly as explained as German culture more or less clear and blunt. But sometimes explanations are vague, girl may change mind based on mood or chemistry. So always be clear on prices before you / they visit. Include any extras if important. If you have in writing, upsell becomes more difficult. Be prepared to walk if things change from agreement. But in general this is not a problem. More of problem is how stupidly all costs higher and some girls have silly extras. Just be clear before you commit.
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Aller 45
[QUOTE=Tintin1;2914973]I saw your other posts on FKK visit. Thank you very much in keeping with my memory from last year but I would love to know your research into "take out" girls and if you visited any bordellos. Even if you found the clubs bad.[/QUOTE]During my short visit to Berlin I did a lot of exploring of the sex houses, mostly with poor outcomes. One afternoon I visited Aller 45 located on Allerstrasse 45.
12049 Berlin-Neuklln. Website with girls is [URL]https://aller45-berlin.de/damen/[/URL].
I was hoping to session with Desi or Beatrice or any slim (preferably) blond girl. They list 12-13 girls active on the site. The space is an apartment with many rooms. I was led into a dingy but neatly kept large room with a double bed and a sink. I was introduced to only 2 girls. Both were young enough, but one was overweight. I do not remember her name. The other girl was Andrea who is listed on the webpage. She is in her early 20's, very slim, and was wearing sexy stockings. Her face is pleasant and she is a blond. She does not speak English. Hoping for a reasonable session with friendliness and without rushing, I paid 120 euro for one hour.
I used the small toilet in the hallway while Andrea waited for me. We went back in to the room. The session was rather uncomfortable. She took off her clothing to reveal a stomach with stretch marks. It was not terrible given her lean frame, but it was certainly noticeable. She rebuffed all kisses of her face and neck although allowed me to kiss her small breasts. She would not allow DATY (which is my favorite activity). On with the condom and lackluster sex in various positions. She remained very quiet the entire time. She did not rush me at any point, In fact, she did not do much at all. Quite listless. After two or three positions of banging away I realized the futility of this visit. I estimate I stayed for about 30-35 minutes. I did not come. She cleaned up after we finished, putting the paper towels and my used condom in the little trash bin. She then straightened out the covers on the bed to accommodate the next visitor.
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IDYLLE Massage
Not exactly a brothel, but one of the best experiences I had in Berlin. IDYLLE massage has three locations at Danziger Strasse 19 , Bergstrasse 2, and Wipperstrasse 11. I had an early morning visit to the Wipperstrasse 11 location. The website is [URL]https://www.idylle-massagen.de/[/URL]#home-about-us.
I was surprisingly greeted by nearly 8-10 young and pleasant girls. I chose Alisa and Milana for a 4-hand sixty minute massage for 180 euros. Alisa is more athletic in build and Milana is slim with a great face (better than the photo) with perfect body, ass, and tits. Alisa led me down to her room where I turned over the money and asked if I wanted a beverage. I was instructed to shower. The room was contemporary in style with a tile floor, a big bed, and mirrors on every wall. I took my shower and waited expectantly for the girls to arrive. After about 10 minutes they came into the room and Alisa took a shower. I think Milana took a shower in her room just prior. All this prep time did not count toward the 60 minutes.
I was taken by my hand to the bed, all clothing off, and greeted with a warm three-person hug. This was a nice touch to start. Alisa was an excellent game manager. Milana was a bit shy and Alisa often directed her to change positions or to allow me to touch her in a particular way. While I am sure a massage with Milana alone would be fine, it reached a new level with Alisa's guidance.
Face up on the bed first and Alisa covers all of our bodies with massage oil. She sticks her breasts in my face and I lick them. I then switch over to Milana and rub her beautiful oily body with my hands and lick her breasts. Alisa enjoys this look and she begins to massage my thighs and shaft with her hands. Milana massages my chest and shoulders while Alisa continues to work my member. I try to explore Milana's pussy with my fingers but this seems to be generally off-limits. Milana does allow me to graze her pussy lips from behind and I occasionally catch a little of her asshole, which excites me. She just turns her body a bit to move my hand away. Alisa on the other hand is quite content with my full wandering hands with all of the oil and and can touch her as I please. Sadly, it doesn't take long for me to ejaculate after this active playfulness.
Just because I came the massage is not over. We still have probably another 40 minutes more. The girls turn me on my stomach, pour more oil on me, and both begin massaging my body with their breasts and pussies. It is both exciting and relaxing at the same time. This part of the massage lasts about 15-20 minutes. While on my stomach the girls are not shy to massage my balls and my shaft from underneath. I am sufficiently re-energized and again have a raging hard-on.
Flip again, but this time Alisa wonderfully straddles my face! I am in heaven. I was not expecting to be able to perform DATY with Alisa. I lick her box hungrily and she moans in pleasure. She is already wet from our mutual rubbing. While licking Alisa, Milana is still actively rubbing my thighs, legs, and feet. This is really quite amazing.
The one hour massage is over. I have had an incredible massage. I go back to the shower to wash off the oil. The girls both escort me out, very friendly. Despite the lack of intercourse, this adventure was very satisfying. In retrospect, I should have gone back during my brief visit to Berlin.
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Independents
Hi all,
I'm thinking of visiting Berlin later this year. My preference is to either visit independent escorts or have them visit my hotel. Is there any reliable sites for escorts in Berlin?
I have recently been to Lisbon and Barcelona where it is very easy to find escorts and cross reference reviews with local forums. Is there anything similar to sexomercadobcn for Berlin?
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Red light district girls (safety and service)
Has anyone tried any girls form Red light district anywhere in Germany?
Are the prices genuine in all the places in Germany (Berlin, Frankfurt, Munich)?
Or do they ask for more after going inside?
Also is the service worth and also is it safe?
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[QUOTE=ArtMorg88;2916258]Hi all,
I'm thinking of visiting Berlin later this year. My preference is to either visit independent escorts or have them visit my hotel. Is there any reliable sites for escorts in Berlin? [/QUOTE]All you need here (RTFF): [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4033-The-Berlin-Sex-Scene.-A-Beginner-s-Guide[/URL]
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[QUOTE=Yuvi100;2916454]Has anyone tried any girls form Red light district anywhere in Germany? Are the prices genuine in all the places in Germany (Berlin, Frankfurt, Munich)?
Or do they ask for more after going inside? Also is the service worth and also is it safe?[/QUOTE]Berlin and Munich do not have these. Other cities do esp. Frankfurt, but also E. G. Hamburg, Düsseldorf. But obvious prices quality vary with you and girl and moment. Hamburg Davidstr. Notorious for rip off, but can be good. Safe yes. Worth it? Very subjective. Just must always be very clear what expected and what is costs before taking off clothes.
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RLD girls
[QUOTE=NookyNinja;2916590]Berlin and Munich do not have these. Other cities do esp. Frankfurt, but also E. G. Hamburg, Dsseldorf. But obvious prices quality vary with you and girl and moment. Hamburg Davidstr. Notorious for rip off, but can be good. Safe yes. Worth it? Very subjective. Just must always be very clear what expected and what is costs before taking off clothes.[/QUOTE]How much do the girls on average charge at RLD?
Can you give some quick guidance on how to approach them?
Also what to avoid from them?
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[QUOTE=NookyNinja;2916589]All you need here (RTFF): [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4033-The-Berlin-Sex-Scene.-A-Beginner-s-Guide[/URL][/QUOTE]Thank you for pointing me in the right direction. Fantastic information in the thread. It seems much more research is needed to find reliable independents in Berlin compared to Barcelona or Lisbon.
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[QUOTE=Yuvi100;2916454]Has anyone tried any girls form Red light district anywhere in Germany?
Are the prices genuine in all the places in Germany (Berlin, Frankfurt, Munich)?
Or do they ask for more after going inside?
Also is the service worth and also is it safe?[/QUOTE]The price they give you is for half and half. Half and Half is the status quo in prostitution. My experience is that you get that in Frankfurt. I would expect to get that elsewhere in Germany. My experience of Amsterdam is that you might run into something crazy like them wanting more money to take their top off or something. That is just kind of an annoyance and not a total rip off. Some other places in the world like South America might even come with a special routine like her rubbing her tits on you before the blow job.
In a place like Germany I don't know why someone doesn't try it if you can afford to loose 50 euro and a guy who can do it. Some people don't have to think about it and just do it. It is a thing that gets done over and over around the world. It is the world's oldest profession. Where Germany probably shines is that it is efficient and the extras are given efficiently. I don't really care so much about the extras. I do kinda like titty rubs though.
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[QUOTE=BobNSuzy;2916979]The price they give you is for half and half. Half and Half is the status quo in prostitution. My experience is that you get that in Frankfurt. I would expect to get that elsewhere in Germany. My experience of Amsterdam is that you might run into something crazy like them wanting more money to take their top off or something. That is just kind of an annoyance and not a total rip off. Some other places in the world like South America might even come with a special routine like her rubbing her tits on you before the blow job.
In a place like Germany I don't know why someone doesn't try it if you can afford to loose 50 euro and a guy who can do it. Some people don't have to think about it and just do it. It is a thing that gets done over and over around the world. It is the world's oldest profession. Where Germany probably shines is that it is efficient and the extras are given efficiently. I don't really care so much about the extras. I do kinda like titty rubs though.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the reply.
Also no discrimination against South Asians right?
Sounds funny, but really wanted to know whether these girls refuse to give service for Asians?
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[QUOTE=Yuvi100;2917088]Thanks for the reply.
Also no discrimination against South Asians right?
Sounds funny, but really wanted to know whether these girls refuse to give service for Asians?[/QUOTE]I don't think they refuse service to anyone as a rule. I am not the best person to ask because I am not from Europe and I am clearly Caucasian.
Even with low prices of 30 euro I have seen some people haggling about prices. I have seen them refuse some people based on price. But, I think those people are trying to pay less than the going rate. The area seems to have a reputation for being a low class area for a reason.
I have seen someone who was 3 feet tall get refused in Amsterdam. I have seen a woman who was scared of someone over 7 feet tall shut here door in Frankfurt. It is kind of like a free for all where no one knows what they will find sort of thing. I have had people make unfavorable comments towards myself. But, I dont care about random comments from random people.
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BBBJ question
I have been looking at the escort sites in anticipation of a 5 night biz trip to Berlin in late June. Just for fun, as I know the girls who are there tonight might be elsewhere next week.
One thing I have noticed is that not all of the sites state if the girls offer BBBJ, which is a must for me. I do not speak German, so I depend entirely on google translate. Some of the girls say they offer blowjobs, and some say girlfriend experience, but often the nature of the BJ is not stated.
For example, [URL]https://www.kaufmich.com/p/giabruni[/URL] . She says she offers "Massages, blowjobs, handjobs, sex in your favorite positions, ball licking, cunninlingus, analingus, anal play, pegging, cuddling, kissing, gentle domination, etc". This sounds good, but nowhere does she mention uncovered blow job. And this is typical of the entire kaufmich. De web site.
Can one make any assumptions about this service? Or does everyone of these girls require an inquiry before booking?
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Re: BBBJ question
MamaGuevos, sexual activities without protection are forbidden by law in Germany.
So if working girls pay attention to the rules, they do not offer it in public advertizing. Some girls (or pimps) do not care and offer it in public. Actually you can not offer it at KM or BI adverts. The sites will block you.
On the other hand some girls advertize with "100% save sex", so look for other woman.
You can ask beforehand. Some might answer, some not, as they do not know you yet. Others simply sent you a menu with services and extras.
What happens behind doors is different and private, but usually they ask for extra money for FWO.
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[QUOTE=NookyNinja;2916590]Berlin and Munich do not have these. Other cities do esp. Frankfurt, but also E. G. Hamburg, Dsseldorf. But obvious prices quality vary with you and girl and moment. Hamburg Davidstr. Notorious for rip off, but can be good. Safe yes. Worth it? Very subjective. Just must always be very clear what expected and what is costs before taking off clothes.[/QUOTE]Berlin doesn't have many obvious laufhauses, unlike Frankfurt, for example. But to say no RLD isn't quite true, there's definitely areas you can reliably find girls of an evening. I went down to Bulowstr. The other night and met a gaggle of very pushy Arab girls outside LSD ([URL]https://maps.app.goo.gl/MFdK5iQkQy8hge8d9[/URL]), and then a bit further south I found a nice Bulgarian MILF with some fabulous curves who took me to the hotel at Steinmetz Eck, which advertises on the wall rooms for 17 E / half hour and 25 E / hour. For 50 E /30 mins, she got her kit off and I enjoyed playing with her nice round boobs, CBJ (she wanted 30 more for BBBJ) then doggy and licked my balls to get there (insisted on catching it and then claiming the BBBJ fee, ofc). I was pretty happy with the service.
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Any recommendations near BER airport?
Hi all,
I have an overnight connection at BER in a few weeks and I thought "What could I do for those 12 hours I am in town?" LOL.
Anyway, do any of you have any recommendations for escorts, clubs, brothels or even really good massage places near the airport? Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks!
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[QUOTE=CurryMonster;2918640]Berlin doesn't have many obvious laufhauses, unlike Frankfurt, for example. But to say no RLD isn't quite true, there's definitely areas you can reliably find girls of an evening. I went down to Bulowstr. The other night and met a gaggle of very pushy Arab girls outside LSD ([URL]https://maps.app.goo.gl/MFdK5iQkQy8hge8d9[/URL]), and then a bit further south I found a nice Bulgarian MILF with some fabulous curves who took me to the hotel at Steinmetz Eck, which advertises on the wall rooms for 17 E / half hour and 25 E / hour. For 50 E /30 mins, she got her kit off and I enjoyed playing with her nice round boobs, CBJ (she wanted 30 more for BBBJ) then doggy and licked my balls to get there (insisted on catching it and then claiming the BBBJ fee, ofc). I was pretty happy with the service.[/QUOTE]Wow thanks brother.
Will definitely visit this place.
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[QUOTE=Yoyoma47;2919529]Hi all,
I have an overnight connection at BER in a few weeks and I thought "What could I do for those 12 hours I am in town?" LOL.
Anyway, do any of you have any recommendations for escorts, clubs, brothels or even really good massage places near the airport? Any help would be appreciated.
[/QUOTE]Years ago Pussyclub Berlin used to be right by Schonefeld station, but long closed. You're best off heading in to the city. I did bus to U7 to Yorckstr and walked to some street action near there recently.
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Need Hours
[QUOTE=Yoyoma47;2919529]I have an overnight connection at BER .. What could I do for those 12 hours I am in town?[/QUOTE]Airport is dead zone.
To help, need to know day (or at least if non Sunday) actual hours you are free post customs, pre-checkin?? Street option should be last, obviously risky, desperate girls, at least 1 hour to get there by transit, maybe 35-40 min with expensive taxi. Maybe some options in Aldersdorf nearby, others but need more info. Other obvious option is get hotel and order take out.
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Euro Girls Escorts
Hi,
I am preparing for my August trip to Berlin and came across Euro Girls Escorts website. Seems like they have plenty of girls to choose from with good service.
Has anyone used them? What excatly does verified mean vs. Not verified? Does verify mean someone has seen the girl and reports back that she is in fact the girl in the pics?
For incall is it at a brothel or a hotel the girl uses? Thanks I'm advance.
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[QUOTE=NookyNinja;2921267]Airport is dead zone.
To help, need to know day (or at least if non Sunday) actual hours you are free post customs, pre-checkin?? Street option should be last, obviously risky, desperate girls, at least 1 hour to get there by transit, maybe 35-40 min with expensive taxi. Maybe some options in Aldersdorf nearby, others but need more info. Other obvious option is get hotel and order take out.[/QUOTE]I'll be there Wednesday night at like 17:00 and have a flight out the next day at about 7:45. I don't want to do street walkers, so was hoping that SOMETHING was near the airport. But like you said, it looks like a dead zone.
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[QUOTE=Yoyoma47;2923322]I'll be there Wednesday night at like 17:00 and have a flight out the next day at about 7:45. I don't want to do street walkers, [/QUOTE]Wise choice. With those hours on Wed. , plenty of time for all options: Artemis (if weather good might be most chilled option), bordellos & massage mostly open til 22:00, or if you stay in hotel, indie girls or higher end escort all doable. You can search on Berlin Intim for some options in Aldersdorf, not far from airport. But supply demand means market more in city center. If you have not read Berlin 101 thread. Good luck.
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[QUOTE=Pokler;2922285]Has anyone used them? What excatly does verified mean vs. Not verified? Does verify mean someone has seen the girl and reports back that she is in fact the girl in the pics?[/QUOTE]Never used don't trust business model with no way to see chemistry before choosing, no way to walk away or cancel. "Verification" in theory means pictures accurate. In practice, hit and miss. Certainly Berlin Intim pictures hit and miss. Higher end escort more accurate. You can try to use video on Whatsapp but many may refuse and or be put off. If you explain nicely why, and how it helps both not waste time, it may work. Again hit and miss.
[QUOTE]For incall is it at a brothel or a hotel the girl uses? [/QUOTE]Incall vary with girl; can be her place or hotel. If girl is at brothel, then obviously it is there.
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Berlin Intim
Some pretty hot profiles on BerlinIntim of late.
Whilst in Berlin recently for a short stay, I ended up seeing Alana. Really pretty. Half Portuguese and half Brazilian. Gorgeous tits and pussy. Fucked her good. Only caveat was she is pretty pricey. Offers a lot but only as extras. So if you want to have a good time, be willing to spend a bit. Here is a link to her profile.
[URL]https://www.berlinintim.de/privatmodell-alana-65434.html[/URL]
Only wished I could have stayed longer as a couple more profiles of girls that I would have been keen to see just came on. Notably Maribel from Colombia and Soraya.
[URL]https://www.berlinintim.de/gastmodell-maribel-64961.html[/URL]
[URL]https://www.berlinintim.de/escort-soraya-63490.html[/URL]
If anyone gets to see them, I would love to hear their reviews as these two are on top of my 'to do' list for my next Berlin visit.
Howie.
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Exploring Berlin
I'm new to Berlin and having been exploring my options. I'm looking for an exotic time and have been browsing on Berlinintim.
Has anyone ever seen these girls? There are few girls links to same same phone, when I reach out I was also given an option for incall at Helmholtzstrae.
Quote 200/ H CBJ+FS, 250/ H with added services.
[URL]https://www.berlinintim.com/privatmodell-cindy-63334.html[/URL]
[URL]https://www.berlinintim.com/escort-luna-60417.html[/URL]
Any inputs would be appreciated.
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[QUOTE=AudiPwr;2923805]I'm new to Berlin and having been exploring my options. I'm looking for an exotic time and have been browsing on Berlinintim.
Has anyone ever seen these girls? There are few girls links to same same phone, when I reach out I was also given an option for incall at Helmholtzstrae.
Quote 200/ H CBJ+FS, 250/ H with added services.
[URL]https://www.berlinintim.com/privatmodell-cindy-63334.html[/URL]
[URL]https://www.berlinintim.com/escort-luna-60417.html[/URL]
Any inputs would be appreciated.[/QUOTE]Cross check against Lusthaus reviews. They have a lot of users in Berlin. You can also search on the place. If you don't speak German most of the browsers will translate (can't remember if Lusthaus itself has an English language button!
Finally go back a month or two. There was a great post HERE on a couple bordellos if you want to go that route.
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[QUOTE=AudiPwr;2923805]There are few girls links to same same phone, when I reach out I was also given an option for incall at Helmholtzstrae.Quote 200/ H CBJ+FS, 250/ H with added services.[/QUOTE]Same phone not unusual; girls may work at same place, or they use same management service, esp. If German language skills poor. But 200+ is very high. Top escort prices. Most indies or bordellos are 140-150 H now normal. Obviously taste thing but many great girls can be visited for less. Berlin for Beginners thread has good info [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4033-The-Berlin-Sex-Scene.-A-Beginner-s-Guide[/URL].
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[QUOTE=AudiPwr;2923805]I'm new to Berlin and having been exploring my options. I'm looking for an exotic time and have been browsing on Berlinintim.
Has anyone ever seen these girls? There are few girls links to same same phone, when I reach out I was also given an option for incall at Helmholtzstrae.
Quote 200/ H CBJ+FS, 250/ H with added services.
[URL]https://www.berlinintim.com/privatmodell-cindy-63334.html[/URL]
[URL]https://www.berlinintim.com/escort-luna-60417.html[/URL]
Any inputs would be appreciated.[/QUOTE]Good choices AudiPwr.
Why not go and take one for the team and report back.
Luna looks amazingly hot. Love the red hair and gorgeous ass.
Howie.
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[QUOTE=AudiPwr;2923805]I'm new to Berlin and having been exploring my options. I'm looking for an exotic time and have been browsing on Berlinintim.
Has anyone ever seen these girls? There are few girls links to same same phone, when I reach out I was also given an option for incall at Helmholtzstrae.
Quote 200/ H CBJ+FS, 250/ H with added services.
[URL]https://www.berlinintim.com/privatmodell-cindy-63334.html[/URL]
[URL]https://www.berlinintim.com/escort-luna-60417.html[/URL]
Any inputs would be appreciated.[/QUOTE]Cindy and Luna have been active for a long time. There are a few negative reports about the agency / address. All in all, a good way to burn your money. Have fun!
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[QUOTE=Trader80;2924790]Cindy and Luna have been active for a long time. There are a few negative reports about the agency / address. All in all, a good way to burn your money. Have fun![/QUOTE]Hey Trader80,
Do you have web links to said reports on the above for Luna?
Not sure if you're a Berlin regular but do you have any insight on Maribel from Colombia (link below)? I'm wondering if her photos are real or not as she seems to be too good to be true.
[URL]https://www.berlinintim.de/gastmodell-maribel-64961.html[/URL]
Thanks. Howie.
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[QUOTE=Howie;2924842]Do you have web links to said reports on the above for Luna?[/QUOTE]In ISG Berlin Beginners Guide thread are refs to the local bible (huren-test-forum lusthaus). Always best place to do name search, after verifying photos.
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[QUOTE=Howie;2924842]
Not sure if you're a Berlin regular but do you have any insight on Maribel from Colombia (link below)? I'm wondering if her photos are real or not as she seems to be too good to be true.
[URL]https://www.berlinintim.de/gastmodell-maribel-64961.html[/URL]
Thanks. Howie.[/QUOTE]80% of the ads of Latinas on berlinintim. De are with stolen pictures of some models. The pictures of Maribel are partly from an underwear model. I don't think it's possible to meet the woman on location in Berlin.
You can find a lot of comments on all the fake ads here:
[URL]https://huren-test-forum.lusthaus.cc/showthread.php?t=278960[/URL]
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Hello,
[QUOTE=Pokler;2922285]Hi,
I am preparing for my August trip to Berlin and came across Euro Girls Escorts website. Seems like they have plenty of girls to choose from with good service.
Has anyone used them? What excatly does verified mean vs. Not verified? Does verify mean someone has seen the girl and reports back that she is in fact the girl in the pics?
For incall is it at a brothel or a hotel the girl uses? Thanks I'm advance.[/QUOTE]This is the Big Network for Escort service There is lot of agencies or independent I suggest you one think you will Book verified Escort from Agency because you will easy discuss or everything. And there is also option for incall maybe.
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[QUOTE=Pokler;2922285]... Euro Girls Escorts website ... Seems like they have plenty of girls to choose from with good service.
What excatly does verified mean vs. Not verified?[/QUOTE]How do you come up with good service? The site is advertising and there are only a few reports about the women in Berlin on local sites. Verified doesn't necessarily mean anything. You can also find verified ads that use fake pictures.
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Cheap BJ options in Berlin?
Will be visiting Berlin in September & was wondering what cheap or reasonably priced bk option there is on Berlin. The Kurfenstrasse used to. Have some hot SW's. There has been a lot less at least during the day.
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Is tipping required / expected?
Hi,
I might visit Berlin later this summer and if so, I'm looking to visit my first erotic massage. I've looked into Paris No. 5 (among others).
Since I haven't done anything like this before, I'm wondering how tipping works, is that expected by the masseuses that I should tip, or is the regular price enough to pay?
If I understand it correctly, oral and genital sex is not offered, and I don't plan on asking for it either -- but should I bring a condom just in case? Not sure if stuff like that happens anyways or if it's like a big no-no and never in a million years it would happen.
What is allowed and not allowed? Is touching her everywhere allowed? Kissing? Etc?
Is there anything else you might suggest a first timer to think about / prepare?
I'm in my early / mid 30's and it was around 7 years since I was intimate with a woman (my ex, which is the only one I've been with.), so I almost feel like a virgin, haha.
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[QUOTE=Quexx;2927353]
Since I haven't done anything like this before, I'm wondering how tipping works, is that expected by the masseuses that I should tip, or is the regular price enough to pay?
If I understand it correctly, oral and genital sex is not offered, and I don't plan on asking for it either -- but should I bring a condom just in case? Not sure if stuff like that happens anyways or if it's like a big no-no and never in a million years it would happen.
What is allowed and not allowed? Is touching her everywhere allowed? Kissing? Etc?
I'm in my early / mid 30's and it was around 7 years since I was intimate with a woman (my ex, which is the only one I've been with.), so I almost feel like a virgin, haha.[/QUOTE]1. Tipping unnecessary (see Simpsons recent episode on Tipping America vs Europe).
2. Paris / Nigel more strict on what might happen. Touching allowed, just proceed slowly, feel the vibe. Sometimes only breasts, sometimes also downtown. Kissing almost never. Other salon places, e. G. Sensual Massage, Ekstasy, others -things much looser. You can always ask. So being prepared not silly.
3. First time. Don't fall for Nuru upsell; oil fine. Don't be afraid to decline if vibe does not feel right. Tough to turn up at Paris / NGel massage without appointment if you want particular someone. Might also explore good apartment bordellos for full program. See Berlin for Beginners referenced below.
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[QUOTE=NookyNinja;2927524]1. Tipping unnecessary (see Simpsons recent episode on Tipping America vs Europe).
2. Paris / Nigel more strict on what might happen. Touching allowed, just proceed slowly, feel the vibe. Sometimes only breasts, sometimes also downtown. Kissing almost never. Other salon places, e. G. Sensual Massage, Ekstasy, others -things much looser. You can always ask. So being prepared not silly.
3. First time. Don't fall for Nuru upsell; oil fine. Don't be afraid to decline if vibe does not feel right. Tough to turn up at Paris / NGel massage without appointment if you want particular someone. Might also explore good apartment bordellos for full program. See Berlin for Beginners referenced below.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Quexx;2927353]Hi,
I might visit Berlin later this summer and if so, I'm looking to visit my first erotic massage. I've looked into Paris No. 5 (among others).
Since I haven't done anything like this before, I'm wondering how tipping works, is that expected by the masseuses that I should tip, or is the regular price enough to pay?
If I understand it correctly, oral and genital sex is not offered, and I don't plan on asking for it either -- but should I bring a condom just in case? Not sure if stuff like that happens anyways or if it's like a big no-no and never in a million years it would happen.
What is allowed and not allowed? Is touching her everywhere allowed? Kissing? Etc?
Is there anything else you might suggest a first timer to think about / prepare?
I'm in my early / mid 30's and it was around 7 years since I was intimate with a woman (my ex, which is the only one I've been with.), so I almost feel like a virgin, haha.[/QUOTE]I did a report some months ago, I think 2024 on Maria's massage. They offer massage and covered french. If the french is important. Any place you visit will have it's own condoms.
My experiences also seem to indicate if a girl offers a professional level of anything (massage, tantra, asian pressure), it's a hand ending. You need to look for body to body for it to be "body to body" at a lot of places. If you go online on Berlin Intim and see NO GV (sex) OV (oral) listed, that means happy ending but that said, I've had a few of those with edging where I couldn't walk for an hour it was so good.
NN's comments are excellent. Ask before you go in to the room if it's important. Otherwise just enjoy. At FKKs, the massages by the girls are almost never worth it.
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[QUOTE=Pokler;2922285]Hi,
I am preparing for my August trip to Berlin and came across Euro Girls Escorts website. Seems like they have plenty of girls to choose from with good service.
Has anyone used them? What excatly does verified mean vs. Not verified? Does verify mean someone has seen the girl and reports back that she is in fact the girl in the pics?
For incall is it at a brothel or a hotel the girl uses? Thanks I'm advance.[/QUOTE]My recommendation pick the girl which is premium Top also verified.
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[QUOTE=LiamHenry;2929023]My recommendation pick the girl which is premium Top also verified.[/QUOTE]Yes, please visit the most expensive provider and then report back here!
No, seriously: requested payment not always equals the delivered performance. Be vigilante.
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[QUOTE=Piefke;2929479]Yes, please visit the most expensive provider and then report back here!
No, seriously: requested payment not always equals the delivered performance. Be vigilante.[/QUOTE]Then you find out on google cheap price girls.
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[QUOTE=LiamHenry;2929752]Then you find out on google cheap price girls.[/QUOTE]Sorry, I do not get it! What are you trying to tell me?
Could you please repeat it in simplier terms for me?
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Venus Sex Convention
I wanted to know if anyone here has been to yearly sex porn convention called Venus in Berlin? If yes, how was your experience? Also, is touching allowed?
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[QUOTE=Roshzxz;2930416]I wanted to know if anyone here has been to yearly sex porn convention called Venus in Berlin? If yes, how was your experience? Also, is touching allowed?[/QUOTE]Do search here with word "Venus". Mostly for industry. Pictures & Selfies w porn stars. But not physical contact. There are after parties elsewhere. Videos on PornHub. Waste of time IMHO.
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[QUOTE=Piefke;2930264]Sorry, I do not get it! What are you trying to tell me?
Could you please repeat it in simplier terms for me?[/QUOTE]Indeed. Poster other posts seem mix of AI cut and paste and only short comments. How does this help us?
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Gypsy
I was in Berlin a week ago.
I was approached in Pariser Platz by two teen gypsy girls whit that scam about giving money to charity for handicapped people.
On of them looked very nice and I talked to here a bit, english / german.
I told her that if she visit me 18.00 at my Hotel I will give her 100 EUR.
Told her to meet me outside the subway station at my hotel.
She said that she don't do that.
17.50 she come outside my subway station.
Sneeked here in the hotel and we had 2 h of good sex.
BBBJ but I used protecion when I fucked her, my desicion.
One load in mouth and one load in the condom.
She did not want to do anal but her nice pussy was great.
Gave here 120 in the end.
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[QUOTE=MrBlueViking;2931509]I was in Berlin a week ago.
I was approached in Pariser Platz by two teen gypsy girls whit that scam about giving money to charity for handicapped people.
On of them looked very nice and I talked to here a bit, english / german.
I told her that if she visit me 18.00 at my Hotel I will give her 100 EUR.
Told her to meet me outside the subway station at my hotel.
She said that she don't do that.
17.50 she come outside my subway station.
Sneeked here in the hotel and we had 2 h of good sex.
BBBJ but I used protecion when I fucked her, my desicion.
One load in mouth and one load in the condom.
She did not want to do anal but her nice pussy was great.
Gave here 120 in the end.[/QUOTE]That's cool, but I'd be too afraid she's steal from me in the hotel.
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[QUOTE=MrBlueViking;2931509]I was in Berlin a week ago.
I was approached in Pariser Platz by two teen gypsy girls whit that scam about giving money to charity for handicapped people.
On of them looked very nice and I talked to here a bit, english / german.
I told her that if she visit me 18.00 at my Hotel I will give her 100 EUR.
Told her to meet me outside the subway station at my hotel.
She said that she don't do that.
17.50 she come outside my subway station.
Sneeked here in the hotel and we had 2 h of good sex.
BBBJ but I used protecion when I fucked her, my desicion.
One load in mouth and one load in the condom.
She did not want to do anal but her nice pussy was great.
Gave here 120 in the end.[/QUOTE]That story sounds fake, why would she risk coming to your hotel for only 100 bucks.
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[QUOTE=Piefke;2929479]Yes, please visit the most expensive provider and then report back here!
[/QUOTE]HA HA. You made me smile today!
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Streetwalkers in Berlin
Although Artemis is my place to go, I enjoy taking a look at the SW fromt time to time. I've had a few successfull experiences with hotties in Kurfurstenstrasse over the years, taking them to the short term-«motel» close by.
Its been a few years since my last SW. Anyone who knows what it's like in Kurfurstenstrasse these.
Days? Going back to Berlin this weekend.
Thanks in advance.
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Hi everyone!
Normally I have been active in Spain and Portugal. Berlin will be a first for me.
I prefer the athmosphere of my hotel room over a club shared flat etc.
Therefore I prefer outcall. Do you know of reliable outcall agencies?
So far I came across Fame Escorts, Ophelia and Escort 77. But that was only one source so maybe you guys know a bit more.
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[QUOTE=HoMan;2935665]Although Artemis is my place to go, I enjoy taking a look at the SW fromt time to time. I've had a few successfull experiences with hotties in Kurfurstenstrasse over the years, taking them to the short term-motel close by...Its been a few years since my last SW. Anyone who knows what it's like in Kurfurstenstrasse these Days? Going back to Berlin this weekend.[/QUOTE]Everywhere, not just Berlin but also Berlin, has seen big changes since Covid. Quality of choices down, prices up. But KurfurStr is oasis of pleasure. Beautiful, friendly, educated, refined girls, wonderful fashion sense, no drug use or STDs, prices have dropped, no psychological or abuse or dependency problems, it really is a miracle.
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[QUOTE=Front604;2935759]Hi everyone!
Normally I have been active in Spain and Portugal. Berlin will be a first for me.
I prefer the athmosphere of my hotel room over a club shared flat etc.
Therefore I prefer outcall. Do you know of reliable outcall agencies?
So far I came across Fame Escorts, Ophelia and Escort 77. But that was only one source so maybe you guys know a bit more.[/QUOTE]Ladies. De, Kaufmich.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2935839]Ladies. De, Kaufmich.[/QUOTE]Those aren't agencies.
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[QUOTE=Front604;2935880]Those aren't agencies.[/QUOTE]I've said this in so many forums. But worth repeating here. Do this in reverse! Either go on Berlin intim and find a few girls and cross reference at Lusthaus or start at Lusthaus. Select Berlin and read through the reviews. I don't believe that in either Berlin or Munich the agencies bat 100%. Judging by experience and that of friends if you get 50/60% good with an agency you're at the top of the game. Berlin has a very active forum that constantly posts raves with back up comments by others to validate the reviews.
So with Lusthaus at least you get some reading and can select some of the better ladies.
At least in the west of the city there are a couple well known good bordellos that occasionally you can negotiate about all post visit.
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[QUOTE=Tintin1;2935970]I've said this in so many forums. But worth repeating here. Do this in reverse! Either go on Berlin intim and find a few girls and cross reference at Lusthaus or start at Lusthaus. Select Berlin and read through the reviews. I don't believe that in either Berlin or Munich the agencies bat 100%. Judging by experience and that of friends if you get 50/60% good with an agency you're at the top of the game. Berlin has a very active forum that constantly posts raves with back up comments by others to validate the reviews.
So with Lusthaus at least you get some reading and can select some of the better ladies.
At least in the west of the city there are a couple well known good bordellos that occasionally you can negotiate about all post visit.[/QUOTE]I hear you, but nevertheless there should be at least one it two agencies that provide outcall Services with a good reputation. Of course there will be differences in performance between the different girls but at least in Barcelona there were some agencies where you knew that they at the very least have girls that will give a solid performance without oneself having the hussle of cross-referencing, fake-checking etc.
So what I am hoping for is to find something similar for Berlin.
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[QUOTE=Front604;2936304]I hear you, but nevertheless there should be at least one it two agencies that provide outcall Services with a good reputation. agencies where you knew that they at the very least have girls that will give a solid performance without oneself having the hussle of cross-referencing, fake-checking etc.So what I am hoping for is to find something similar for Berlin.[/QUOTE]Welcome to 2024, post Covid, post Ukraine. Ninja not fan of escort because of too many unknowns, no chance to walk if vibe wrong. Heard Escort77 vaguely better. Summer always slow will pick up around IFA Messe 5 Sept. But things have changed and you need to hussle (you meant hassle) to reduce odds of being hussled. Lonely at the top. Girlfriend / Wife really only solution, why the custom exists.
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PSE or curly girls suggestions
Hi!
I have two preferences in terms of escorts: the ones that allow almost everything (PSE with greek and CIM) and curly haired 25-45 girls.
Any suggestions for PSE or curly haired girls in Berlin?
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[QUOTE=Front604;2936304]I hear you, but nevertheless there should be at least one it two agencies that provide outcall Services with a good reputation.[/QUOTE]Nooky mentioned Escort77 which is alright. I've used Fame and Gold Member. There should be reviews available if you search. Both were more so-so for the last appointments I booked (over a year ago). The rate at these agencies already make most LH members cringe. I know someone who eventually moved from her agency to Escoreal and LiebesMaedchen. I'm no business mogul so never booked with anyone else there.
In general. Just search Berlin Escort Agency and look for an agency that actually paid money for their website and doesn't have too many girls. More than 10 is suspicious, more than 20 they are providing variety over reliability.
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Oral without condom
Out of curiosity how common is BBBJ in Berlin (and rest of Germany) over 8 years after the condom requirement law? I barely follow the German sex scene these days compared to years ago.
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Re: Oral without condom
[QUOTE=BaltiX;2939474]Out of curiosity how common is BBBJ in Berlin (and rest of Germany) over 8 years after the condom requirement law?...[/QUOTE]In my experience it ist no longer in the adverts, but often on offer in the one-to-one talk. However, sometimes used for ridiculous extra demands of money, IMHO. Contra indication: the advert explicitely mentions: 'everything with protection' or similar.
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[QUOTE=Front604;2936304]
So what I am hoping for is to find something similar for Berlin.[/QUOTE]If money is no object, there are certainly a few options. But you won't find any reports about these women and agencies.
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Hey, I am thinking about doing a few days in Berlin. But how is the SW situation these days? Are there still SWs around oranienburger strabe and kurfurstrabe?
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I was there today & yesterday. It was a complete waste of time. Last night three was about 3 older low grade SW's. Wen t back around noon & did not see any SW: s at all. There was quite a few college girls however girls however.
[QUOTE=TeddyBearNor;2939851]Hey, I am thinking about doing a few days in Berlin. But how is the SW situation these days? Are there still SWs around oranienburger strabe and kurfurstrabe?[/QUOTE]
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What waste your time with streetwalkers when there are better options.
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[QUOTE=Piefke;2939786]In my experience it ist no longer in the adverts, but often on offer in the one-to-one talk. However, sometimes used for ridiculous extra demands of money, IMHO. Contra indication: the advert explicitely mentions: 'everything with protection' or similar.[/QUOTE]I noticed on Kaufmich that girls who advertise "safer sex" come in two categories: Those who only mention unprotected intercourse and those who don't provide unprotected oral under taboos category, sometimes both.
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Ukrainian sex workers in Berlin
Is this true?
Ruskie propaganda is pushing this on social media but anything better than expensive Russian women that dominated prostitution long ago when I stayed in Germany.
[URL]https://ground.news/article/prostitution-in-berlin-in-brothels-around-50-percent-of-women-are-ukrainians[/URL]
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[QUOTE=DwayneJohnson;2944888]Is this true?[/QUOTE]No, ridiculous. Ninja wish it were true.
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[QUOTE=DwayneJohnson;2944888]Is this true?
...
[/QUOTE]My english ist not so good. Can you please rephrase your question? What exactly do you want to know?
BTW: the article is behind a paywall.
In my experience there was no domination by expensive russian sex workers before. There was more or less an equal distribution of baltic, ukrainian and russian women in the trade. But there was never really cheap offers, indeed. But sometimes very good service for money. Nowadays the number of 'russian' providers decreased a lot and that of ukrainian increased. The price increased as well, but it seemed to me a general trend. Nothing special of east-european women or others.
In general I am not happy with current flood of photoshopped AI or fake adverts and ridiculous price. New providers, which call themself 'ukrainian' are part of it.
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Berlin brothel question
Guys,
I will be in Berlin for two days and plan to try a brothel and perhaps a kino too in addition to Artemis. I am familiar with the FKK theme but new to the other two. I looked around and found that one needs to pay not only girls but also the house at a brothel. If I get this right, how do you pay them, together or separately? Would you also kindly give some pointers about where to find reputable brothels and kinos (preferably having German ladies)? Danke!
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[QUOTE=MaverickWagi;2948261]Guys,
I will be in Berlin for two days and plan to try a brothel and perhaps a kino too in addition to Artemis.[/QUOTE]I can't say anything about the Kinos, but have an opinion about brothels.
First of all, you find a good list here: [URL]https://www.berlinintim.de/clubs-bordelle-berlin.html[/URL].
Some of them are marked "currently not available" - they died either at Corona or did not pay their advert money and contact information was removed. Just Google their names to find site and address. BI never deletes anything to fake 'volume'.
These are paid advertizements, not reports. Payment is indeed splitted for tax reasons between the Lady and the house, but to make things easy, the woman usually takes all and transfer part of it to the house. Do not worry, all are professional self-entrepreneurs, not poor expropriated slaves of the brothel masters. So says the fairy-tale.
To top up their share, the ladies usually offer some extras. Lots of them. Ask upfront, what you will get for your hard earned cash.
There are some smaller brothels, which do not have adverts at BI (but have websites).
For german ladies, not that many here, mostly mature ones. The younger germans travel and operate from apartments and hotels and "Pensionen ". I would check out "Flair" [URL]https://hauptstadtnummer.com/.[/URL] They have usually good reports.
For others look in Berlinintim for higher price brothels in West-Berlin.
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[QUOTE=MaverickWagi;2948261]Guys,
... I looked around and found that one needs to pay not only girls but also the house at a brothel. If I get this right, how do you pay them, together or separately? .... ![/QUOTE]In general, we don't pay separately except in former "Kamilla-Dee" in its last months or last years before it was closed. (I wonder if some changes did happen in the law because for my first times, and for years, I didn't pay separately there until that year (I don't remember which one)).
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Thank you, guys!
Thanks alot for the replies. A lot good info from the recommended berlintimi site. I will check it out more and report back. I saw Royal has a lot of nice ladies but the price is not clear though. It says 60/30 min and 100/60 min. I suppose this is only for the room which seems to be higher than others. From that perspective, artemis seems to have more bang for the buck. Again, not complaining, just observation. I somehow had misperception that brothel would be cheaper than FKK. I guess it is case by case. All good. Cheers!
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[QUOTE=MaverickWagi;2948952] I somehow had misperception that brothel would be cheaper than FKK. [/QUOTE]Royal most expensive bordello in city. Most apartments cost 140-150 for 45-60 min with basic extras FK BBBJ included. You would be lucky to get 120-for same for 30 min in Artemis. Then divide share of 90 min entrance fee over number of sessions. Different atmosphere, some food, etc. Sure. But apartments cost less and have better girls.
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[QUOTE=NookyNinja;2948984]Royal most expensive bordello in city. Most apartments cost 140-150 for 45-60 min with basic extras FK BBBJ included. You would be lucky to get 120-for same for 30 min in Artemis. Then divide share of 90 min entrance fee over number of sessions. Different atmosphere, some food, etc. Sure. But apartments cost less and have better girls.[/QUOTE]Royal example: 45 min now 80 Eur. "Typical" price w BBBJ and kissing another 150-190, so 230-270 for 45 min. ?! Most escorts to hotel home about 150/ HR.
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Thank you all for the input. I completed my Germany trip and ended up going with Artemis as a easy route. I didn't get to try brothels or escort. Next time, I'll definitely try in-call / outcall escort. I found they tend to have better value. But I don't have time to filter and select this time.
[QUOTE=NookyNinja;2954714]Royal example: 45 min now 80 Eur. "Typical" price w BBBJ and kissing another 150-190, so 230-270 for 45 min. ?! Most escorts to hotel home about 150/ HR.[/QUOTE]
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Suggestion request for Berlin center
I'm new in Berlin, in a business trip.
Which privat / bordelle do you recommend me to go in Berlin center. I stay in an hotel close to Deutscher Dom in Mohrenstrasse.
Uber distance, or better walking distance (30 minutes or so).
Before asking for help, I did my research with berlinintim. De and lusthaus. CC, but without a map consolidating all locations, it is not easy to find a good place, that is also at short distance.
I bet this is a common need for travelers on business trip, when there is less time to plan and prepare.
Thanks for helping.
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[QUOTE=Arthur62;2956647]Which privat / bordelle do you recommend me to go in Berlin center. I stay in an hotel close to Deutscher Dom in Mohrenstrasse.
Uber distance, or better walking distance (30 minutes or so). Before asking for help, I did my research with berlinintim. De and lusthaus. CC, but without a map consolidating all locations, it is not easy to find a good place, that is also at short distance. I bet this is a common need for travelers on business trip, when there is less time to plan and prepare.[/QUOTE]Mitte kind of shitte for this. Really nothing close. But from Mitte almost all places within 20-30 min of car travel, or even better bicycle (can be as fast or faster) if weather ok. Bvg. De is very good travel planner for comprehensive public transit.
This help little: [URL]https://www.google.com/search?q=bordell+in+Berlin+MItte&sca_esv=1 cc0 b9 b8607 bc00 f&udm=1&sa=X&ved=2 ahUKEwjG1 baeirOJAxXXS_EDHQP2 AUQQjGp6 BAgeEAE&biw=2414&bih=1652&dpr=1. 18[/URL].
But better bordellos e. G. Liberty, Ginas Tango Rosa, Prestige, Royal (€€€€), Maria Rot. Just put in address in map. Not so complicated. If time tight, always best to look at web page, see girl (s) you like, then [B]call first[/B] to be sure they are there when needed, and not booked. Easy to do lots of pointless running around. Good luck, make report.
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Thanks for this. How accurate are the pictures on the sites of GTR or Prestige? I know Royal and Liberty are not too bad (normal photoshopping), but was wondering about the other two. They look pretty decent, but for that price, maybe a little too good!
[QUOTE=NookyNinja;2956821]Mitte kind of shitte for this. Really nothing close. But from Mitte almost all places within 20-30 min of car travel, or even better bicycle (can be as fast or faster) if weather ok. Bvg. De is very good travel planner for comprehensive public transit.
This help little: [URL]https://www.google.com/search?q=bordell+in+Berlin+MItte&sca_esv=1 cc0 b9 b8607 bc00 f&udm=1&sa=X&ved=2 ahUKEwjG1 baeirOJAxXXS_EDHQP2 AUQQjGp6 BAgeEAE&biw=2414&bih=1652&dpr=1. 18[/URL].
But better bordellos e. G. Liberty, Ginas Tango Rosa, Prestige, Royal (), Maria Rot. Just put in address in map. Not so complicated. If time tight, always best to look at web page, see girl (s) you like, then [B]call first[/B] to be sure they are there when needed, and not booked. Easy to do lots of pointless running around. Good luck, make report.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Dartanian100;2957309]Thanks for this. How accurate are the pictures on the sites of GTR or Prestige? I know Royal and Liberty are not too bad (normal photoshopping), but was wondering about the other two. They look pretty decent, but for that price, maybe a little too good![/QUOTE]Uneven- some are, some not. Liberty same.
If you ask about specific girl, can maybe advise. PM if you want.
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[QUOTE=Dartanian100;2957309]Thanks for this. How accurate are the pictures on the sites of GTR or Prestige? I know Royal and Liberty are not too bad (normal photoshopping), but was wondering about the other two. They look pretty decent, but for that price, maybe a little too good![/QUOTE]Always good idea to use girl name in search box on locals site of choice:
[URL]https://huren-test-forum.lusthaus.cc/forumdisplay.php?f=10[/URL] There is English flag upper right to translate. One minute work, can save hours.
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I'm going to passing through Berlin. Arriving around noon, leaving my stuff in a locker and leaving in the evening.
My original plan was to goto FKK Artemis. I figure in Germany, I should do the FKK "experience". Then staying a few days in hamburg where I was going to see a girl at an apartment or brothel.
However, seeing how much the prices have gone up and the fact that I usually can only see 2 girls in a visit max, sometimes only one if I don't find anyone I like, I may do the same thing here.
The other thing is that I'd be visiting on a Thursday around 1-3 pm so it probably isn't the best time.
In Hamburg, there's a modelle-hamburg site that has ads for girls that I can cross reference on Lusthaus. What do people do in Berlin? Just look on Lusthaus directly?
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[QUOTE=Grven3;2963802]I'm going to passing through Berlin. Arriving around noon, leaving my stuff in a locker and leaving in the evening.
My original plan was to goto FKK Artemis. I figure in Germany, I should do the FKK "experience". Then staying a few days in hamburg where I was going to see a girl at an apartment or brothel.
However, seeing how much the prices have gone up and the fact that I usually can only see 2 girls in a visit max, sometimes only one if I don't find anyone I like, I may do the same thing here.
The other thing is that I'd be visiting on a Thursday around 1-3 pm so it probably isn't the best time.
In Hamburg, there's a modelle-hamburg site that has ads for girls that I can cross reference on Lusthaus. What do people do in Berlin? Just look on Lusthaus directly?[/QUOTE]For Berlin I think the most popular advertising website for Berlin scene is BERLINintim:[URL]https://www.berlinintim.com/[/URL].
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[QUOTE=BaltiX;2963846]For Berlin I think the most popular advertising website for Berlin scene is BERLINintim:[URL]https://www.berlinintim.com/[/URL].[/QUOTE]I did look there. I was hoping there was something like modelle-hamburg with their filter search.
But something is better than nothing.
Thanks.
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Review: Fucking Pornstar July Sun at Royal Bordell
I returned to Royal after a great time with Linda ([URL]https://royalgirl.de/profil/linda-traum-der-lust/[/URL]) the day before. I wanted to fuck one of a few girls I saw on the website (Luna, Jenny, etc.), but I called beforehand to reserve Luna. But, when I got there, I was told that Luna was not there. I asked to see the lineup.
The first girl was Marta ([URL]https://royalgirl.de/profil/marta-2/[/URL]), and she had a nice body and an amazing ass. However, she had filler in her lips that made them look freakishly large. The next girl who came in was named (I thought) Julissa. Julissa seemed older than Marta, but she had a very nice slim spinner body like I like. Julissa walked out, and the attendant returned. I told her I wanted Julissa.
It was a few hours later that I realized that the girl wasn't named "Julissa". Her name was July Sun ([URL]https://royalgirl.de/profil/july-sun-erotiksternchen/[/URL]), a pornstar who has been in a lot of adult films. It was at the later time that I realized I had fucked a porn star!
Anyway, back to the beginning of my session at Royal, I was taken to a room to wait. I heard vigorous fucking going on in the next room. I paid the attendant 60 for the 30 minutes. I then gave July Sun 140 to cover her part of the 30 minute fee (60), anal (50) and kissing (30). She said I looked great.
She was a great kisser (despite a light tinge of smokers breath). Very sensuous and tongue forward. Based on her and Linda (and maybe Malaney in America), I'm starting to think German girls know how to kiss (I need to increase my sample size).
She said she was from Berlin, and I let her know I was from America. I asked if she had been to America, and she said she had not. "Very small children, you know, make it difficult. " My guess is that July Sun took a break from porn and whoring to have some kids and is now back at it.
She got on the bed on her knees, and I slid into her for standing doggy. She was fingering her ass and soon licked her fingers, lubed her ass with her spit, and then slid my dick into her asshole. I've had a fair amount of anal sex, but I've never slid into a girl that easily. I later saw her get fucked in the ass on videos, and it was similar to my experience. I'm not saying her ass was loose, but it was very receptive to my dick.
I had her lay down so I could fuck her ass that way.
We eventually did different positions. I pulled her hair, put my finger in her mouth while piledriving her asshole, went from her ass to her pussy and back again a few times. She would periodically suck my condom covered dick after it had been in her asshole. I eventually got so tired that I just laid there. She tried to suck and jack me, but I said it would take too long. She seemed disappointed.
I asked if she came, and she said it take a lot to make her cum ("I'm a witch she said with a laugh). She said she likes is really rough. Hours later I would watch her videos and see her taking three dicks in her ass, and I finally realized what she meant.
She said my dick was thick which was great for anal, but I could stand some additional length.
I asked if she had a lot of Black guys, and she said she does. She's always quick to go see the customer if it's a Black guy. She said she loves getting fucked in the ass.
She said Berlin is an international city so they get men from different backgrounds. But, she gets a lot of Indian men. She made a face when she said this, and she said their dicks are small.
I really enjoyed July Sun. I think she was 35 (despite her age being listed as 29 on the website) at the time I fucked her, but she could easily pass for a decade younger. She was a very good time.
She left and said I could push the panic button next to the door and the attendant would come get me and escort me to the exit. They never let you roam around without an escort.
Here are some of July Sun's porn videos:
[URL]https://www.analvids.com/model/161112/july_sun[/URL]
[URL]https://ge.xhamster.desi/search/july+sun[/URL]
[URL]https://www.maturetube.com/pornstar/july-sun[/URL]
[URL]https://www.tubepornstars.com/pornstar/july-sun[/URL]
[URL]https://www.fuq.com/pornstar/july-sun[/URL]
[URL]https://www.lobstertube.com/pornstar/july-sun[/URL]
[URL]https://www.xvideos3.com/models/july-sun#_tabVideos[/URL]
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Post saved at Berlin Royal's thread
[QUOTE=Atanion;2963975]I returned to Royal after a great time with Linda ([URL]https://royalgirl.de/profil/linda-traum-der-lust/[/URL]) the day before. I wanted to fuck one of a few girls I saw on the website (Luna, Jenny, etc.), but I called beforehand to reserve Luna. But, when I got there, I was told that Luna was not there. I asked to see the lineup.
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It was a few hours later that I realized that the girl wasn't named "Julissa". Her name was July Sun ([URL]https://royalgirl.de/profil/july-sun-erotiksternchen/[/URL]), a pornstar who has been in a lot of adult films. It was at the later time that I realized I had fucked a porn star!
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[QUOTE=Grven3;2963955]I did look there. I was hoping there was something like modelle-hamburg with their filter search.[/QUOTE]Language options, top right. Change to EN if necessary. Then this [URL]https://www.berlinintim.com/sexkontakte-suchen.html[/URL]. Plenty of search options.
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[QUOTE=Atanion;2963975]She said my dick was thick which was great for anal, but I could stand some additional length. [/QUOTE]
Finally, we learn why Royal so ridiculous expensive-they also offer medical and personal advice. ;)
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[QUOTE=NookyNinja;2964113]Finally, we learn why Royal so ridiculous expensive-they also offer medical and personal advice. ;)[/QUOTE]There was a time that Royal was one of the best options in Berlin. Quality women. Very plush rooms and spotless bathrooms. Polite and courteous madam working the door and phones. And service that was predictable and reliable, albeit at a hefty price when you add on all the extras. Believe it or not there was even a time they would band a few girls together to offer an orgy / gangbangs on Sundays. Really was top notch. Things started to decline towards 2019, not entirely sure why. I am sure COVID was almost a deathblow and this place went on life-support. I have since been to Berlin 2 or three times post 2021 and I regretfully never stopped by Royal. On each recent visit I been reasonably preoccupied with a few massage shops around town (best massage is in Berlin IMHO) and Artemis.
All this to say that I am soo pleased to see a report of Royal being back in action with a good offering. The website looks refreshed and the line-up looks strong. Who knows. If this momentum keeps up we might even get Orgy Sundays back!
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[QUOTE=FakeIt;2964310]There was a time that Royal was one of the best options in Berlin. [/QUOTE]Yes there was a time. Now not that time. Line up is good but expect 220-240 Eur for 45 min w kiss & BBBJ last time Ninja checked with stunning Amy. But that is 100 € (~60%) more than other good places at 120-140. Interior design slightly (slightly) better than eg Prestige, Liberty, or Ginas Tango Rosa. But unless you are JD Vance, a nice sofa not worth 100 €. Other places also have as good, or better talent.
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[QUOTE]that is 100 (~60%) more than other good places at 120-140.[/QUOTE]Too early in morning math. Corrected: So 100 more than 120= 83% more; 100 on 140 =71% more than very good other venues.
Sorry JD.
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[QUOTE=NookyNinja;2964771]Too early in morning math. Corrected: So 100 more than 120= 83% more; 100 on 140 =71% more than very good other venues.
Sorry JD.[/QUOTE]ChatABC says: Much more expensive than somewhere else. (Smiley)
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I used to be a regular at Royal till maybe 2018 or 2019 but now for the same money I would spend there I play a bit of hit and miss at Berlinintim and often get great service for similar money but 60 min and real GFE (needs some intuition and experience with the website though).
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Anni Porsche
Hi everybody,
Has anyone recent experience in Anni Porsche club? My last time was 2 years ago there.
No top notch quality girls but sometimes nice afternoons.
I miss Erlebniswohnung.
Do you know any other club where the pauschal-system (you pay only at the entrance and then stay as long as you want) is still valid?
I need something for the afternoon.
Thank you.
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Jasmine, Aphrodite-Massagen, easteuropean MILF
My year ended with a visit at Aphrodite-Massagen in Berlin-Mitte. I met Jasmine, an attractive east-european woman with slight asian touch. Not skinny, but round hips and fine bosom. Good english.
She offers good massage with continious gentle elements / B2 be and an ending with hand relieve. No sex, no BJ, but with sympathy and / or money she offers tight mutual massage. But basis service is already good.
Price for an hour was 120 E / h. 60 min massage, shower before / after is on top. You should be in time, If you have an appointment.
[URL]https://www.aphrodite-massagen.de/jasmine/[/URL]
She seem not listed in the moment. But she might be on holidays now.
Aphrodite-Massagen ist a fine, clean, diskreet massage salon with mostly east-european woman. No sex, no BJ afaik.
Second option for me: Katja, blonde woman, similar service and impression. Sligthly bigger teasing mood. Do not know her english.
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[QUOTE=Atanion;2963975]I returned to Royal after a great time with Linda ([URL]https://royalgirl.de/profil/linda-traum-der-lust/[/URL]) the day before. I wanted to fuck one of a few girls I saw on the website (Luna, Jenny, etc.), but I called beforehand to reserve Luna. But, when I got there, I was told that Luna was not there. I asked to see the lineup.
The first girl was Marta ([URL]https://royalgirl.de/profil/marta-2/[/URL]), and she had a nice body and an amazing ass. However, she had filler in her lips that made them look freakishly large. The next girl who came in was named (I thought) Julissa. Julissa seemed older than Marta, but she had a very nice slim spinner body like I like. Julissa walked out, and the attendant returned. I told her I wanted Julissa.
It was a few hours later that I realized that the girl wasn't named "Julissa". Her name was July Sun ([URL]https://royalgirl.de/profil/july-sun-erotiksternchen/[/URL]), a pornstar who has been in a lot of adult films. It was at the later time that I realized I had fucked a porn star![/QUOTE]Thanks for your review but are you 100% sure it's the pornstar in your links? For me she looks very very different! Anyone else agree?
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Streetwalkers Berlin
I had great success picking up streetwalkers in Kurfurstenstrasse (by the erocenter) just before the pandemic. I took them to a nearby hourly based «hotel», but can't remember the name. Anyone knows?
Will I still be able to meet sexy girls there? Going back very soon.
Plan to combine this with Artemis.
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[QUOTE=HoMan;2979151].... I took them to a nearby hourly based hotel, but can't remember the name. Anyone knows?
Will I still be able to meet sexy girls there? ...[/QUOTE]The hotel ist probably the "Pension Steinmetz", but I am not sure.
About woman. Some are still in the KuFue. , but the area hast changed. No open areas, less hidden corners. Lots of new apartment blocks.
But I am no expert there with any fresh News.
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Brothels, streetwalkers
[QUOTE=Piefke;2979619]The hotel ist probably the "Pension Steinmetz", but I am not sure.
About woman. Some are still in the KuFue. , but the area hast changed. No open areas, less hidden corners. Lots of new apartment blocks.
But I am no expert there with any fresh News.[/QUOTE]Thank you. Will have a look. I always go to Berlin, but maybe I should give one of the brothels a try. Any recommendations? Do like a line up before I decide.
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Club 44
[QUOTE=Taconele2024;2967197]Hi everybody,
Has anyone recent experience in Anni Porsche club? My last time was 2 years ago there.
No top notch quality girls but sometimes nice afternoons.
I miss Erlebniswohnung.
Do you know any other club where the pauschal-system (you pay only at the entrance and then stay as long as you want) is still valid?
I need something for the afternoon.
Thank you.[/QUOTE]Our (me & my wife's) experiences here was in 2020. She did njoy with one. Don't know how it is in recent times. Also wanted to try KitKat.
One query are females allowed to visit FKK? We plan to come this Sept.
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[QUOTE=FckMyWife;2980487]
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One query are females allowed to visit FKK? We plan to come this Sept.[/QUOTE]Yes, all (males, females) pay entrance fees as for theaters!
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Girlfriends / Wives in Artemis - Nein
[QUOTE=Bobo.fr;2980558]Yes, all (males, females) pay entrance fees as for theaters![/QUOTE]Sorry this not true. Not allowed in Artemis.
FkMyWife asked this in 2023 and 2024; answer is still no.
Some other small clubs in Berlin (Insomnia -he says they have visited) allow; some also in NRW and Hessen.
You can email or call clubs (most speak enough English) and ask, if not clear from website. Simple search on question also often reveal answer.
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Atrium. Anyone been?
I plan to try this 'new to me' club in March and have had some great correspondence. The pricing seems reasonable 300-400/4 / 60 depending on your requests and the response rate was quick. As usual, I'm asking if anyone has any experience. I'm looking for a sub, but might consider a switch with some open play. Feel free to msg me, but I'm sure everyone would love hearing esperiences in the forum.
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[QUOTE=Tintin1;2982853]I plan to try this 'new to me' club in March. The pricing seems reasonable 300-400/4 / 60 depending on your requests.
I'm sure everyone would love hearing esperiences in the forum.[/QUOTE]Few reports on local Lusthaus forum [URL]https://huren-test-forum.lusthaus.cc/showthread.php?p=2667372[/URL]#post2667372.
Happy customers, very expensive. Maybe silly costs part of the "sado" bit.
You're sure "everyone would love hearing" Not Ninja thing at all. Good luck.
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[QUOTE=NookyNinja;2981541]Sorry this not true. Not allowed in Artemis.
FkMyWife asked this in 2023 and 2024; answer is still no.
Some other small clubs in Berlin (Insomnia -he says they have visited) allow; some also in NRW and Hessen.
You can email or call clubs (most speak enough English) and ask, if not clear from website. Simple search on question also often reveal answer.[/QUOTE]Thanks. We has been to Insomnia & Club 44 in Dec 20/ Jan. 21 . Yes I was told that Artemis do not allow Female guests. So where does Females go for fun? We will be in Berlin this September. Trying to short list few places where I can take her.
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FKK Artemis
Dreamt of going to FKK Artemis last night to check it out. Lots of guys and girls for a Sunday night. For people who have never been there -.
1. You pay 90 to get in, that gets you a bathrobe, free soft drinks, entry to the pool, sauna, smoking lounge, some solarium thing (no clue how to use it), gym etc. You can buy alcoholic drinks for 10 a piece. You can pay the 90 with credit card.
2. You are not supposed to carry anything inside, so leave your valuables including cash in a locker outside and clothes in a separate locker on the men's changing room. (You can always come pick up cash when you need to pay for dinks or any other services).
3. Inside most people are sitting and drinking and smoking in the smoking area. It is very much like a strip club but the difference all the girls are completely naked. (You are also but you have a bathrobe on, girls don't they are just sitting around completely naked). Also usually there is no pole dancing (I saw one in like 4-5 hours).
4. Girls are not pushy, if you want to talk to someone just say Hi. As the night progresses more girls will say Hi to you as they try to get business.
5. Girls in general are I would say mostly 5-8 on 10. Hard to tell when all of them are naked (there is something about clothes that make women look sexier), but they are generally tall with good hair and boobs (some natural, some fake). Mostly from Romania and Poland.
6. When you talk to them you can small talk but eventually you ro she will pop the question. I was quoted 90 for the basic stuff. (CFS, BBBJ).
7. And of course you can stay as long as you like till 5 am.
Now to my experience, as is aid above I like women clothes so was a bit taken back by all the nudity (not in a bad way, just). Mostly spent time by myself and finally chatted with this woman from Romania. Tall, good looking maybe 40 ish. But she was very sweet and made conversation, which is something I like. We agreed on the basic stuff (she offered other service like toys etc for 50 upcharge each). I didn't want those, went to the room, she was very GFE and followed instructions, didn't say no to things like 69, fingering, multiple positions, no rushing. We even chatted about what she does, family etc. Post the fact. Her name was Gia if you want to go find her. Only challenge fake boobs, but they looked real that I couldn't tell even when we first started chatting and she was naked LOL. Ended up paying 100 (90 + 10 tip).
Now most people stay for seconds and third rounds but I just am not a multiple round in one night kind of guy, so I hung about for abita and left. In the time I hung out post the act lots of girls approached but I politely refused.
Total damages: 90 at the door + 100 to Gia + drinks.
Overall experience: Great.
Will I repeat: Maybe not unless I can go once in the afternoon and come back in the night. (That helps maximize ROI obviously because you don't have to pay admission again.
It ended up costing me as much as it would on the other side of Atlantic but was worth the experience.
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[QUOTE=Tintin1;2982853]I plan to try this 'new to me' club in March and have had some great correspondence. The pricing seems reasonable 300-400/4 / 60 depending on your requests and the response rate was quick. As usual, I'm asking if anyone has any experience. I'm looking for a sub, but might consider a switch with some open play. Feel free to msg me, but I'm sure everyone would love hearing esperiences in the forum.[/QUOTE]Not really a club but a studio with various themed rooms to rent. They work sort of like an association where the SPs make their own arrangements with their clients and rent out the rooms at an agreed time. I suppose you could try a walk in to see who is available, but I think their preferred model is for you to contact the particular SP you want and make arrangements before hand. Totally legit, clean and something special to add to any Berlin visit.
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Emilie of Aller 45 BERLININTIM
Emelie looks good 120 E an hour. Is she real? Does that include the room fee?
[URL]https://www.berlinintim.de/hure-emelie-65531.html[/URL]
[URL]https://www.berlinintim.de/clubs-bordelle-berlin.html[/URL]
Lots of good options in Berlin. What are the best ways to use this site?
The bros knowledgeable about the sex scenes in Berlin please advise. Thanks.
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Re: Emilie of Aller 45 BERLININTIM
[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2995678]Lots of good options in Berlin. What are the best ways to use this site?[/QUOTE]Just klick on the links and you will be presented with new content. That's how I do it.
Please check the website of the bordello Aller45.
[URL]https://aller45-berlin.de/[/URL]
Emelie ist currently not working.
Yes, the price includes the room.
I have no further information.
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Aller45 / Aston / Stella
[QUOTE=Piefke;2995795]Just klick on the links and you will be presented with new content. That's how I do it.
Please check the website of the bordello Aller45.
[URL]https://aller45-berlin.de/[/URL]
Emelie ist currently not working.
Yes, the price includes the room.
I have no further information.[/QUOTE]Don't hesitate to feed the thread:
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4012-Berlin-Aller45-Aston-Stella[/URL]
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Berlin Massage visits - 2 days one place Maria's Massage
I've asked around in the past and thanks to a few board members* come across Maria's Massage (I've posted before). Over the course of the last year or so, MORE extras are available and are now even posted on the website under each provider.
I had posted queries on several German Boards about Kris and Patrizia. No answers so I was stuck taking one for the team, as we used to say.
System. You can either show up without an appointment and ask who "might" be available and possibly even get a line up. I did that my first time, now I browse the website, and ask "who" is working on X day. Then I book based on their description and offerings.
[URL]https://www.mariamassagen.de/masseurin-kris-66710.html.[/URL] Photos are a few years old and definitely "glammed up" but she's quite nice and very sexy. I went over the extras offered and the prices and opted for an "optional" CBJ during if I wanted. She was quick to point out that I could make my decision at the last minute. We picked body to boy (tantra she said was similar. ?.). And I picked 90 I think. The initial massage was a bit softer than I usually like but appeard to show some signs of training. After an amount of time she started to get frisky, encouraging some respectful touching and off we went, on the flip, I enjoyed the Spanish so much in combination with her hands that I decided to opt out of CBJ. After all it's covered and unlikedly to be as mentally erotic. She then used her thights and ass to amazing skill and eventually as the sun rises and sets, I also set. As this was day 3 of my week in Germany, it also was a nice change to sit back and let someone else drive.
Good light kisses, amazing eye contact, and at some point I realized that without any make up I WAS seeing the girl in the photos and we connected. Lots of little chatter later and I passed on a second round, so we concluded our time with just more massage. Would repeat 100% and might add a few extras next time.
A couple days later I booked Patrizia (after a night at Artemis).
[URL]https://www.mariamassagen.de/masseurin-patrizia-55459.html[/URL]
Patrizia lists on her page, the offer for DOM or Regular so when I got there I had the choice of two rooms. One had cuffs on a wall unit , which I decided was NOT NEEDED., so we went to a plane vanilla room. There was a bit of a time delay due to another client either arriving late or leaving late? And I had to wait for a bit to shower. Refreshments were offered. Web photos are as accurate as blurred face photos can be. But body seemed about right. Patrizia's extras were much more extensive. Did I mention both ladies offered FS and price ranges were given to me previously by the booker.
Anyway, 90 plus extras was the plan. The front end of the massage was shorter, more quickly into the body to body (she said "tantra" was more active with HJ ending so I stayed with B2 B). Some great erotic use of her hands and tongue and a very fluent French. Use of all of her body, and playful mutual contact. After a nice bit of clean up and some conversation, she said we had time left over so she restarted the massage but mostly between my legs. Not sure who was more surprised at my reaction. Patrizia made the most of the time and heroically got me over the hill to a second electric ending. Spent I regretted having to stand up and leave but after a hot shower and some conversation and a promise to return I left. Would I repeat? I'm tempted to say, I'd like to try a few more girls first but nice to know I have her as a back up
* a shout out to Piefke who's been more than helpful with his posts.
**. Feel free to DM me about anything but to be clear I'm NOT secretly hinting that BBFS would ever be offered.
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ARTEMiS Berlin
Visited ARTEMiS on a Saturday afternoon, many girls, many men, but not all men are active, they just sit around if they have done their deed, and they're just enjoying sitting and watching the scene.
I went with Maggae from Hamburg, short black hair, beautiful tattoos, one shows 81".
Once in the room, she told me that ARTEMiS has more rules than others, and she was not too playful. And she said she does not like to be asked private questions about her. My best part was not getting too hard after these restrictions. 70 Euro was agreed for 1/2 hour. But for 30 Euro more, she would remove the condom for the blow.
Her blow was good, but too short. She spoke dirty to me and looked at me beautifully, all the time, deeply into my eyes.
She wanted to get f*cked hard, but still, my best part was not getting too hard; I did not come.
I also take all kind of shit for my heart: Atorvastin / Ezetimibe / Ramipril / Clodipren and maybe this is disturbing my erection.
But such a cute girl, I told her I envy her boyfriend.
A cute, intelligent girl, but I was not so much at ease with her. On the way out, she remarked, "You are crazy!" I replied to her, "Same to you. " Later, I approached her at the bar, but she was not interested in talking further with me.
Later I talked with petite Cleopatra from Bulgaria, small tits, small body, my taste.
But I finally went with a tall and slim blonde Victoria from Moscow. Can I call her Fucktoria?
She was easygoing, she liked me dancing to the techno sound, and she had a model face.
Session was 90 Euro, Blowjob was great with her and she said for 50 Euro more I can come in her mouth. She made me come, and I was happy. It's been a long time since something like this happened to me, actually a year ago in Nairobi. In between she was riding me good with her small pussy.
I don't come easily, but she managed well, i am not young anymore! I love the way she looked at me all the time in my face and eyes while blowing me.
Both girls were great, but only the 2nd could make me come. So I realised again how important is a girls attitude to make me cum. Actually, I have always had a good experience with Russian girls, always.
I told her she could be a model, but she opposed the idea that her size is 169 cm and that she is missing 1 cm, which is too short to qualify as a model.
She travelled a lot, even to Peru and Australia. I told her if she wants my phone number, once she comes to my area, but she said the club restricts her from accepting phone numbers. So it would be a good idea to prepare a small piece of paper that can be slipped between the bills when payment is done later.
I would like to come back to this place, unfortunately, I live far away from Berlin.
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Artemis Thread
ISG has separate thread for Artemis reports. Best to put them there vs Berlin city.
We Berliners like things tidy. Ordungsamt says here:
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2588-FKK-Artemis-Berlin[/URL]
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I'm not sure in which section to write this "report", but since I'm in Berlin now and some of the events took place in Berlin, I'm writing here. Over the past month, I've been to several countries. Germany, Hungary, the Czech Republic and Poland. Where I've often found myself in massage parlors.
Perhaps I did something wrong, but so far Berlin has seemed to me the worst place in terms of price / quality / girl's resemblance to her photo. I was screwed literally every time. Either the photo doesn't look like the girl at all, or the girl just sits a meter away from you and carefully massages. Prague wins in terms of quantity / quality of services (more than once I managed to negotiate with parlors for an outcall, sometimes even a long one, where with the girl / girls by consent I could do something far from massage). Warsaw wins in the "photos with a face" category; the most beautiful masseuses didn't hide their faces in the photos (or I was just lucky).
Regarding sexual services, Germany is certainly ahead of the other above-mentioned countries. I was able to arrange contacts with a completely diverse crowd. From an eighteen-year-old nymphet a la [URL]https://www.kaufmich.com/p/littlesaraa[/URL] to some bimbo toilets, I can't find a link to a better sample now). The opposite situation is with photos. There are a lot of fakes on Hungarian / Polish sites and, although I am sure that the situation is similar in Germany, I was luckier with the reality of the photos in Berlin.
I also booked a few meetings with girls with name sites (for example, [URL]https://www.caralorelei.com/[/URL] among many) and some FKK, we'll see how it goes.
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[QUOTE=Ydoolb;2999367]
I also booked a few meetings with girls with name sites (for example, [URL]https://www.caralorelei.com/[/URL] among many) and some FKK, we'll see how it goes.[/QUOTE]Tell us about your date with Cara Lorelei.
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[QUOTE=FakeIt;2999464]Tell us about your date with Cara Lorelei.[/QUOTE]Of course I will!
At first I thought of going the way of famous escort agencies, but I didn't like their manner of communication and pricing policy (see the topics of Prague and Bratislava about certain "diamonds") and I decided to try the girls' personal websites. My personal experience so far shows that they communicate more politely and answer questions more friendly, even if this is an illusion, but in fact they just have good work ethics. When the meetings take place, I will definitely write here.
Although perhaps I just came across not very good agencies. In the fall I plan to visit Athens and evaluate the agencies there. Maybe I will have more luck there.
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[QUOTE=Ydoolb;2999612]Of course I will!
When the meetings take place, I will definitely write here.
[/QUOTE]So until now only talk and no play?
So please come back, when there is something to report! In Berlin, not Athens.
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[QUOTE=Piefke;2999637]So until now only talk and no play?
So please come back, when there is something to report! In Berlin, not Athens.[/QUOTE]Just a couple of posts ago I already wrote about what I was able to "play" - girls from massage parlors (and specified that in my opinion the choice in Prague is better) and several girls from Kaufmich and wrote my opinion on this matter.
What else do you need? An orchestra?
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Ydoolb, an orchestra is not needed. A report is just doing fine. A report from Berlin (here), not Prague, not Athens.
Tell me, is it valuable information for anybody, if you announce, that you already 'played' a girl in Berlin and nothing else?
Girls from massage parlors - who? Which salon?
Not so good agencies - which one?
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[QUOTE=Piefke;2999684]Ydoolb, an orchestra is not needed. A report is just doing fine. A report from Berlin (here), not Prague, not Athens.
Tell me, is it valuable information for anybody, if you announce, that you already 'played' a girl in Berlin and nothing else?
Girls from massage parlors - who? Which salon?
Not so good agencies - which one?[/QUOTE]I reread our short conversation and realized that I was unjustifiably harsh, I apologize for that.
As for massage parlors. I have been to several (Aphrodite-massagen with Daria who is very nice to look at, but bad in everything else; Mariamassagen and Idylle massagen with girls whose names I didn't remember, not least of all from such an impression). And, as I have already written before, in my opinion they are much worse than similar ones in Prague.
As for the escort agency in question, we are talking about is [URL]https://diamondkitten.com[/URL].
I look forward to the next scheduled meetings.
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[QUOTE=Ydoolb;2999723]I reread our short conversation and realized that I was unjustifiably harsh, I apologize for that.
I look forward to the next scheduled meetings.[/QUOTE]Ydoolb, don't stress. Your contributions are good. I've benefited from your posts, bookmarked a few of your references and I look forward to your reviews.
In fact let me pay you back with a few tips.
Personally my favorite massage spots in Berlin are NGel and Paris No. 5. You should add them to your list. They have the same ownership and MO and girls rotates between the two.
If you are really a fan of massages and are oped minded enough to have hippie German girls show you how to reach enlightenment (yeah right, just play with my tackle) book a tantric experience: kashima. De. or journeywithin.info
Brodells used to be all the rage in Berlin until a steep decline in 2020. I see a few hints that things are coming back. If you are feeling charitable to let us know, this used to be the best in the biz: royalrooms. De.
Personally I'm not a fan of escorts in Berlin. Soo many other options avaiable. But if you need a reliable agency: kay-[URL]escorts.com[/URL] (not cheap!
I also recommend broadening your horizons with a visit to a fetish studio: fetisch-[URL]institut.com[/URL].
Finally. Artemus. But I'm sure I don't need to tell you about that. For me it's a back-up when things go bust. Which in Berlin they rarely do.
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[QUOTE=Ydoolb;2999723]I reread our short conversation and realized that I was unjustifiably harsh, I apologize for that.[/QUOTE]Ydoolb, thank you for your kind and reasonable response!
And thanks, that you finally dropped a name of a provider and a short judgement! If you ever again go to Aphrodite massage, keep in mind, that you almost always get only what is written on the menu in that location. If that is fine, than I suggest to have a meeting with either Nicole (beautiful young woman with good erotic massage skills) or Katja, sexy MILF, which gives you a good massage, but on top spoils you with erotic teasing without end (all within the menu and for 120 E / h). She is realing taking care of her guests.
So [URL]https://www.idylle-massagen.de[/URL], [URL]https://www.mariamassagen.de[/URL] left you unsatisfied? Then [URL]https://www.sensual-massage-berlin.de[/URL] might also not be for you. They use their massage cover also only to upsell you FS for quite some money. Even worse in my opinion is [URL]https://primusrelaxmassage.de[/URL] : Full price erotic massage (110 E / h), but service above oiling and HR is 20-30 E each as extra. FS comes with +100 E on top. It is not worth IMHO.
Thanks for naming an escort agency too! But you complain about Berlin agencies and give the name of a Bratislava one? Why?
And in your first report from yesterday you complained about "Berlin has seemed to me the worst place in terms of price / quality / girl's resemblance to her photo. " . But 10 steps later you declare "Warsaw wins in the "photos with a face" category;" and finish with praise for Berlin "There are a lot of fakes on Hungarian / Polish sites and, although I am sure that the situation is similar in Germany, I was luckier with the reality of the photos in Berlin. ".
It is not fully consistent. Are you using ChatGPT for your contributions?
Thanks to "Fake it" for the recommendation of [URL]https://kay-escorts.com[/URL] . Ydoolb, maybe you should try it to get a more satisfying experience. I am looking forward to your report and your opinion, if the "Dinner / Overnight 13-15 hrs" or "Dinner / Overnight 16-18 hrs" option is the better choice.
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[QUOTE=Piefke;2999871]
Thanks for naming an escort agency too! But you complain about Berlin agencies and give the name of a Bratislava one? Why?
And in your first report from yesterday you complained about "Berlin has seemed to me the worst place in terms of price / quality / girl's resemblance to her photo. " . But 10 steps later you declare "Warsaw wins in the "photos with a face" category;" and finish with praise for Berlin "There are a lot of fakes on Hungarian / Polish sites and, although I am sure that the situation is similar in Germany, I was luckier with the reality of the photos in Berlin. ".
It is not fully consistent. Are you using ChatGPT for your contributions?
[/QUOTE]Thank you for yur suggestions. I will check them.
Abbout ChatGPT part LOL I meant that when I criticized Berlin for the photos I meant the photos on the massage parlor websites. They seem veeeery photoshopped in some cases. The photos of prostitutes on berlinintim and kaufimkh on the other hand are more like the truth. In Prague and Warsaw, for example, it's a completely different story. The photos in massage parlors are usually very accurate, but with photos of prostitutes it's always a pig in a poke and instead of an eighteen-year-old nymphet you might meet a Middle Eastern old lady.
As for escort agencies, I often travel around European countries and contacted / tried to contact different ones, the one I indicated was simply the last one. I will check [URL]https://kay-escorts.com[/URL].
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[QUOTE=Ydoolb;2999367]
I also booked a few meetings with girls with name sites (for example, [URL]https://www.caralorelei.com/[/URL] among many) and some FKK, we'll see how it goes.[/QUOTE]Did this date ever happen?
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[QUOTE=FakeIt;3002453]Did this date ever happen?[/QUOTE]I had a slight change of plans, so I visited another girl with her own website (https://angel-vip.pl/), in another country though. I wrote about it in the corresponding thread (Krakow, Poland [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?755-Krakow&p=3002739&viewfull=1#post3002739[/URL]).
But I still want to hold this meeting in Germany.
I understand that this doesn't add much information about Berlin, but I just wanted to clarify.
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General destination question from an overall contributor
Hi there -- Have posted in this forum years and years ago plus posted countless reports across North / South America, Europe and Asia.
I'm looking for somewhere I haven't been yet in Europe / Northern Africa for a mongering week this July which isn't stupidly expensive. That eliminates Morocco, Prague, Budapest, Berlin, Vienna, Barcelona, Madrid, Paris and London. I'm also coming from Athens, which also looks not very promising as a play destination.
I had really wanted to hang in Istanbul. But after RingTTF, it seems very expensive (minimum 8 k) and kind of an overall pain in the ass (fucking should be fun, but the reports don't seem all that inspiring). I'm open to poorer countries -- they usually have hotter girls and lower prices.
Suggestions? Where is great and hasn't been overrun with high prices and shitty service yet?
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[QUOTE=UsaInEurope;3002805]Hi there -- Have posted in this forum years and years ago plus posted countless reports across North / South America, Europe and Asia.
I'm looking for somewhere I haven't been yet in Europe / Northern Africa for a mongering week this July which isn't stupidly expensive. That eliminates Morocco, Prague, Budapest, Berlin, Vienna, Barcelona, Madrid, Paris and London. I'm also coming from Athens, which also looks not very promising as a play destination.
I had really wanted to hang in Istanbul. But after RingTTF, it seems very expensive (minimum 8 k) and kind of an overall pain in the ass (fucking should be fun, but the reports don't seem all that inspiring). I'm open to poorer countries -- they usually have hotter girls and lower prices.
Suggestions? Where is great and hasn't been overrun with high prices and shitty service yet?[/QUOTE]Lisbon, especially its independents. But I don't consider Barcelona expensive if you use independents and the shared private apartments. If you do touristy options, yes, Barcelona is expensive and often shitty service.
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[QUOTE=Mongerer88;3002806]Lisbon, especially its independents. But I don't consider Barcelona expensive if you use independents and the shared private apartments. If you do touristy options, yes, Barcelona is expensive and often shitty service.[/QUOTE]Awesome lead, I'll look into Lisbon. Thanks!
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[QUOTE=UsaInEurope;3003045]Awesome lead, I'll look into Lisbon. Thanks![/QUOTE]This is actually a great question. Which is the best country in Europe for mongering? Specially in terms of ROI (or bang for the buck).
I was thinking east Europe (e. G. Romania) would be great, as those countries are cheaper in general and have really hot girls (some of the best girls I have met in UK, Germany etc. Were Romanian). But I read those forums and they are full of bad reports. And high prices.
Which European country would you think Is best for mongering? Not expecting money to go as far as it goes in Asia / Thailand but surely there are some countries better than others?
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Cumming back to Berlin
My last time in Berlin was back in 2019. I had 2 Brothel experiences. One was out standing, and one was laughably awful. My first experience was with Danika at Maison the' envie. After negotiating, she pretended to speak no English, and my German was not good enough to communicate. I believe she was intentionally sand bagging. I was able to get off, but she was awful.
My other experience was at Ginas Tango Rosa. I asked every lady as they came through, "Sprechen sie englisch bitte?" A cute, big titted Russian lady named Olga caught my interest. She greeted me in English with a hand shake. On a wim, I went with her. She had great tits, a decent ass, just a little chub around the middle. 50 euros for the room +10 for OWO +10 for DFK. She performed all well, and with enthusiasm. It was a great fuck session, and I would see her again if she was still around. I may go back to this place. It was a bit of a journey, but I had a really good experience.
This trip I am staying in Fridrichshain. Two block from my Air BnB, there is a "erotic massage" place called Club Amar. It has 3. 9 stars out of 15 reviews on Google maps. Other than that I can't find any information about it. Since it is so close, I will probably check it out.
I am hoping to check a box on my bucket list this trip. I would like to have a GFE 3 way with 2 lovely working girls. I will probably find an escort with a friend from [URL]Kaufmich.com[/URL] for this. However, maybe a brothel is my best bet? Any guidance? I would like two ladies who play well together.
I am considering an FFC experience at Artimes, but I keep reading that the girls there don't kiss. So, I may wait until later in the trip to try the FFC in beöblingen, or Baden Baden.
I would love some Berlin recommendations. I have to go back a few pages to actually find some helpful content on this forum, and a lot of the links are no longer viable.
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[QUOTE=Leroy1969;3003557]
I am hoping to check a box on my bucket list this trip. I would like to have a GFE 3 way with 2 lovely working girls. I will probably find an escort with a friend from [URL]Kaufmich.com[/URL] for this. However, maybe a brothel is my best bet? Any guidance? I would like two ladies who play well together.
[/QUOTE]Royal is listing some suggested pairs of girls. But each girl will ask for 50 for OWO and 30 for DFK.
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Take out
Also, lets say I have a great time with a lady in a brothel. Would it be appropriate to ask her to exchange contact information for a meeting in my Air BnB?
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Leroy1969's post: Gina Tango Rosa's OLGA
[QUOTE=Leroy1969;3003557]
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My other experience was at Ginas Tango Rosa. I asked every lady as they came through, "Sprechen sie englisch bitte?" A cute, big titted Russian lady named Olga caught my interest. She greeted me in English with a hand shake. On a wim, I went with her. She had great tits, a decent ass, just a little chub around the middle. 50 euros for the room +10 for OWO +10 for DFK. She performed all well, and with enthusiasm. It was a great fuck session, and I would see her again if she was still around. I may go back to this place. It was a bit of a journey, but I had a really good experience.
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.[/QUOTE]Copied into.
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?3629-Berlin-Gina-s-Tango-Rosa-(GTR)&p=3003649&viewfull=1#post3003649[/URL]
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[QUOTE=Leroy1969;3003643]Also, lets say I have a great time with a lady in a brothel. Would it be appropriate to ask her to exchange contact information for a meeting in my Air BnB?[/QUOTE]Sure, why wouldn't it?
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Re: Cumming back to Berlin
"Club Amar" is "Club Amor". Small apartment bordello. I do not know any Website. But german forum has a thread: [URL]https://huren-test-forum.lusthaus.cc/showthread.php?t=146702[/URL].
Friedrichshain has more massage parlors than Clubs.
[URL]https://mabelle-massagen.de/[/URL]
Erotic massage by mostly MILFs, most offer sex as extra. Decent prices. Recommended.
[URL]https://www.ekstase-massage.de/[/URL]
Massage by younger Woman, maybe they offer more (no own experience).
More massage:
[URL]https://www.feelings-massagen.de/masseurinnen.html[/URL]
[URL]https://my-lady-massage.de/[/URL]
[URL]https://www.russland-massage.de/[/URL]
Ginas-tango-rosa is still active, but no Olga listed (just call and ask).
[URL]https://ginas-tango-rosa.de/girls/[/URL]
Most advertizing for redlight is here:
[URL]https://www.berlinintim.de/sexkontakte-berlin-erreichbar.html[/URL]
Be aware of fake pictures, false promises and moon prices.
Enjoy your stay!
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Thank you!
[QUOTE=Piefke;3003691]"Club Amar" is "Club Amor". Small apartment bordello. I do not know any Website. But german forum has a thread: [URL]https://huren-test-forum.lusthaus.cc/showthread.php?t=146702[/URL].
Friedrichshain has more massage parlors than Clubs.
[URL]https://mabelle-massagen.de/[/URL]
Erotic massage by mostly MILFs, most offer sex as extra. Decent prices. Recommended.
[URL]https://www.ekstase-massage.de/[/URL]
Massage by younger Woman, maybe they offer more (no own experience).
More massage:
[URL]https://www.feelings-massagen.de/masseurinnen.html[/URL]
[URL]https://my-lady-massage.de/[/URL]
[URL]https://www.russland-massage.de/[/URL]
Ginas-tango-rosa is still active, but no Olga listed (just call and ask).
[URL]https://ginas-tango-rosa.de/girls/[/URL]
Most advertizing for redlight is here:
[URL]https://www.berlinintim.de/sexkontakte-berlin-erreichbar.html[/URL]
Be aware of fake pictures, false promises and moon prices.
Enjoy your stay![/QUOTE]Do you know anything about Club Carena?
Thanks for the link to the German forum, Heren Test. It is really hard to navigate. I use both their English translation, and Google's and still struggle.
I am not much into message. I am always looking for a GFE.
What is the going rate for 30 min, and an hour at a Berlin Brothel these days? I have spent some time on Kauf Mich. I am seeing 80-120 for a half and 150-250-to the moon for an hour.
I am seeing a lot a hairy ladies on Kauf Mich. I did not know that was so much of a thing in Berlin.
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[QUOTE=Leroy1969;3003860]
Thanks for the link to the German forum, Heren Test. It is really hard to navigate. I use both their English translation, and Google's and still struggle..[/QUOTE]There's a forum in Berlin Forum / Lusthaus for Massage in Berlin, both one for Asian and one for regular, I believe I've seen extras and better descriptions, but it is mostly "indies" not the clubs. Most of the club reviews are WITHIN the individual named clubs.
As to Hairy, new to me, but if you see an uptake on anything it generally means there are customers. You don't see more advertisements for services no one uses.
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[QUOTE=Piefke;2999871]
Thanks for naming an escort agency too! But you complain about Berlin agencies and give the name of a Bratislava one? Why?
And in your first report from yesterday you complained about "Berlin has seemed to me the worst place in terms of price / quality / girl's resemblance to her photo. " . But 10 steps later you declare "Warsaw wins in the "photos with a face" category;" and finish with praise for Berlin "There are a lot of fakes on Hungarian / Polish sites and, although I am sure that the situation is similar in Germany, I was luckier with the reality of the photos in Berlin. ".
It is not fully consistent. [/QUOTE]Similar pattern is observed on other country forums. Great to see someone is noticing. It's a fascinating behavior.
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[B]Girl:[/B] pretty, nice and sweet.
[B]Photos:[/B] real.
[B]Facilities:[/B] poor.
[B]Service:[/B] poor.
[B]Organization:[/B] poor.
[B]Price paid:[/B] 130€ incl. FO, DATY, french kiss + 20€ extra cumshot on the body.
[B]Repeat factor:[/B] none.
[B]Story of the encounter:[/B]
I was trying to set the meeting up as an outcall to my hotel, to make sure the environment will be nice and tidy.
Not sure if the agency or the girl handles the comms but I was trying to schedule it in a tight window between my bussiness meetings so I got in touch a couple of days in advance, outcalls are from 2 hours and more + taxi, I only had 90 mins but agreed to pay the whole thing to get what I want.
Confirmed in the morning on the day of the meeting but the girl was in the end not ready on time and I could not reschedule, so change of plans, drove over to Charlottenburg for an hour of incall.
Nice neigbourhood, next to the Augsburger st. Metro. New building, basic one-room apartment on top floor, I was let in on time, the girl is cute and nice, the photos are flattering but real, she speaks OK english (and other languages), but you won't need it, she's not a talker.
Unfortunately the appartment was not well kept, as I was afraid, it was musty, used bedsheets, smelly bathroom and I was handed a completely wet towell. Precisely why I wanted the outcall in the first place. But the girl was polite and pretty and I was really into her, so decided to bite the bullet on the ambience, kept my mouth shut, paid the 130€ hourly rate and took a quick shower.
Then I asked her what she likes, with a young and cute girl like her I want to be gentle and make it as pleasant for both parties as possible. She told me she didn't like it rough, other than that she doesn't care. No problem for me, I don't like it rough either. Turn out she meant it literally when she said she doesn't care, which is a problem, but we'll get to it.
After that I got invited to the bed and we started to make out with french kisses and I was gently playing with her tits. The initial making out was the highlight of the service, she wanted to move on quickly but I asked her to slow down and keep making out with me, with which she complied. Some minutes later I started to get hard, she offered a blowjob which I accepted.
Here it has to be said if you are into deep or porno blowjobs, there will be nothing for you here. Very basic amateurish sucking of the top third of the cock (and I'm only average in size at best), with some tongue play on the head. No creativity, no playing with the balls or surrounding area, no hand involvement to proper the instrument up. This is the kind of blowjob your first girlfriend will give when you are 16. Don't get me wrong, it's still pleasurable when a beautiful young girl sucks you and I liked it (I guess liking her in general and her sweet demeanor played a role), but there were none of the skills one expects from a professional.
I was getting into it though and started to think I might let her finish me this way and then move onto fucking for the second shot on the goal. But after a while she grew tired or bored with it and asked me to move on to fuck her. I like to do what the girl likes to do, so I said yes, but when she put a condom on me and removed the remainder of her dress and revealed her beautiful white body, breasts and peachy pussy, I knew I had to eat this treasure first.
But as a gentlemen, I asked first, if that's ok, I don't want to force any girl into something she doesn't want to do, kills my mood anyway. She again said she does not care and she really meant it. I was trying every trick in my repertoire to get her in the mood, kissed all over and very gently tried to find her erotogenous zone but no success, she was mentally some place else and could not get any involvement from her. Then I moved on to the cunnilingus, she has a very beautiful, sweet and clean pussy and I really enjoyed eating her out and when you like to do it and know how to do it, sucess is almost guaranteed. But not this time, though she got beautifully wet, I was not getting any involvenent or signs of enjoyment from her. Shame, I was really trying to get her comfortable and enjoy, because that's when I enjoy the most as well but despite considerable and long investment of effort, she was mentally not there at all.
In the end I figured this is not going anywhere, I stopped and asked outright if there's anything I can do for her, she just said we should move to sex. Fine, but will need some help with my little friend first, since the cold atmosphere killed his pump. We get rid of the condom that got all dirty from the musty sheet, she gives me couple of minutes of the schoolgirl BJ mentioned previously, but the second I get barely hard enough, on a new condom goes with added lubricant (which was not really necesarry, she was wet) and she lies in mish, where she proceeds to deadfish with closed eyes thinking of some place else. I figured trying to get her on top and make some effort would not be met with any enthusiasm so I proceed and fuck her very gently in mish and to my surprise in a very short time I need to cum, so I remove the condom and blow a massive load all over her belly and bit on the tits.
That woke her up:
A) she was also surprised I came so fast.
B) first thing she said was "cum on body is extra".
Now, I knew this was not true as her message from whatsapp said BJ natur and cum on body is included, but she gave me nice french kissing included in the price so I decided bickering over stupid 20€ is not worth ruining my day with an argument. We both took a very quick shower, then to her credit she did offer me a massage twice but I declined, we had about 20 minutes left and that would be just enough to make me ready for the second round when the alarm would go off and I would be leaving with a boner, not what I needed for my bussiness meeting that was to follow. I asked her to cuddle up with me instead, we talked for a bit while I gently careseed her but again, she was not mentally there, so I got up and left 10 minutes early.
Some final notes, stupid on me for not finding time the day before to offload, I had no action for couple of days and then came too soon, her lucky day hahah.
She clearly is not made for this job, she's not a natural and has to space out mentally. I'm quite positive it was not my fault, she was not the first working girl I met by any strech and I know the women like me, because I'm polite, tune in with their tempo easy, I have very good hygiene and manners and I'm among the younger and better looking among the clients, so it was her state of mind. She clearly already had clients that day which surely didn't help her energy, but I think she's just tired of this life and wants out.
As a fellow human being I do have understanding and compassion for that, but when I look at her as a purveyor of professional services. My impression was poor; and on top of that the very poor facilities. Hence, the repeat factor was zero. Even though I really, really liked the girl, she was polite and sweet and pretty.
Elisabeth can be recommended to the type of fellow monger who only cares if the girl is pretty, who wants to take complete initiative and does not mind having sex with a passive girl who doesn't want to be there. She is not rude or visibly disgusted either, so if this is enough for you, I think 130€ is a bargain for a pretty young girl like her. But I need involvement, I don't want to feel like I'm doing it with somebody who doesn't want to be there and thus rate the experience as poor. If she gave me just a little theater, I would be elated. Shame.
Being from Ukraine means you got handed the raw end of the deal even without the **** Putin trying to bomb your house and I wish her all the best in her life, but hopefully she will find something else, I don't think the working girl life is for her.
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Forgot to update the title, the report below is about Elisabeth from Monica's Agency.
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[QUOTE=DwayneJohnson;3018759]Similar pattern is observed on other country forums. Great to see someone is noticing. It's a fascinating behavior.[/QUOTE]I apologize if this bothers you too much, I will try to write better reports, ask more adequate questions and choose forums more correctly =).
And, by the way, to the questions.
In early September, I will be traveling to Berlin with a business partner who is deeply married, so he decided that now is the time to push himself into the depths of paid love. He is a bit old-fashioned and does not like massage parlors (although he has not been to them) and he does not really like searching on [URL]berlinintim.com[/URL] and [URL]kaufmich.com[/URL]. So I thought maybe someone could recommend some proven quality brothels in Berlin? Laufhauses are also a German thing, aren't they? I have been to a couple of such places in Austria.
EDIT: I know about FFK Artemis, of course.
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[QUOTE=Ydoolb;3022590]... So I thought maybe someone could recommend some proven quality brothels in Berlin? Laufhauses are also a German thing, aren't they? ... [/QUOTE]This is a very general broad request! Nobody can tell, what a "deeply married man" expects, when he wants to pay for sex for the first time, from all countries in Germany? Simply good sex with a friendly, good looking woman in a clean nice environment?
I advice against to have a long bucket list and expect that everything happens in one single encounter.
A) there is no "Laufhaus" anymore in Berlin.
B) Check here for a list: [URL]https://www.berlinintim.com/clubs-brothels-berlin.html[/URL].
Look at their sites, the prices, the working girls and services.
Then ask specific questions.
C) bring sufficient cash. Usually it helps, but not always.
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[QUOTE=Piefke;3022714]This is a very general broad request! Nobody can tell, what a "deeply married man" expects, when he wants to pay for sex for the first time, from all countries in Germany? Simply good sex with a friendly, good looking woman in a clean nice environment?
I advice against to have a long bucket list and expect that everything happens in one single encounter.
A) there is no "Laufhaus" anymore in Berlin.
B) Check here for a list: [URL]https://www.berlinintim.com/clubs-brothels-berlin.html[/URL].
Look at their sites, the prices, the working girls and services.
Then ask specific questions.
C) bring sufficient cash. Usually it helps, but not always.[/QUOTE]Thank you!
But in this case I am only a messenger, This friend of mine himself does not really understand what he wants. I only know exactly what he does not want. Young masseuses from Eastern Europe (this is my thing) and getting a scam with photos / kilograms on sites with prostitutes. Anyway I will direct HM straight to berlinintim then.
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[QUOTE=Leroy1969;3003860]Do you know anything about Club Carena?
.[/QUOTE]Yes, I know "Carena" very well, I have walked into this place frequently.
We would call it "neighbourhood-brothel" in Germany. Cute little place, around since the very early 90's. Last time I was there, only Runamnian girls.
Standard:
Entrance 10€.
Service 80 4 30. At this point: Everything extra.
When I went there first time (2017?) BBBJ was always included. Now you can be happy if a handjob is "included". Depends on the girl, you and the "vibe".
The quality of the girls is all over the place. Do not expect a SILICON BIMBO.
Beyond that, everything is possible. I have met German girls, Russian, Bulgarian, Rumanian, thin, thick. I was a frequent customer with a girl for more than 5 year who was a real stunner with GIANT natural boobs who did great CIM. Then she suddenly disappeared.
My recomendation if you are in the area: just walk in, spend the 10 bucks and have a look. Last time I was there, the 10 bucks also bought a you a first drink (=beer). That is an OK investment to have a look and talk. The girls are sitting in the "contact room" with you and the bar keeper. Of course they want to sell you "lady drinks". If you are already into a girl, ask her if she wants "Sekt oder Trinkgeld" which means "Chapagne or tip". If she has a good feeling about you, she will prefer the "tip". The girls get a bonus on selling drinks. But giving them a 10 or 20 straight is more for them.
IF you pay them a drink, please make sure they really finish them.
We all want them properly fueled up if it was already paid for I have had several girls trying to dump their "Sekt" (sparkling wine / champagne). Finish your drink, then we go "Zimmer" (room).
The bar lady will try to sell you a bottle for the "attending" girls, usually 4 or 5. If you feel like you want to be the "big spender", make sure to ask which bottle. The range was something between 100 and 500 if I remember correctly.
REmeber: You can also buy a "glass" of sparkling for "your" girl you are interested in. Again, make sure, she actually drinks it, PLEASE.
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All on silver plate
[QUOTE=Ydoolb;3022590] "My friend" is a bit old-fashioned and does not like massage parlors (although he has not been to them) and he does not really like searching on [URL]berlinintim.com[/URL] and [URL]kaufmich.com[/URL]. So ..someone could recommend some proven quality brothels in Berlin?[/QUOTE] Deeply married (?), old fashioned, doesn't like things he's ever seen, doesn't like searching on websites. All make sounds for very promising, relaxed visit. ;)
Artemis ok for the spectacle but you need some nerves to navigate and lots of young EE's. It has one advantage-time. You can spend hours waiting, checking out seen, talking to see if vibe right, and lots of choices. But it is fuck factory esp at good nights (Thurs-Sat) though managable before 23:00.
"Proven quality" brothels very much in eye of the beholder, general psychology makeup, and individual chemistry. So unpredictable ultimately. But in general (with sense of relative costs) Royal €€€ , Liberty €€, Prestige € , and especially Ginas Tango Rosa € and MILF HQ, all relatively safe bets. But must look at websites, and call before visit to see if girl of interest is there and available on given day and time. You can take risk and not make appointment to look first, but must be sure she is there, and when unbooked.
So after help here, make reports on experiences. Good luck.
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For Friedrichshain
As mentioned below, old-school brothels in Friedrichshain are "Carena" and "Club Amor".
Main difference:
Carena is open until 5 in the morning. Perfect place to dive in the middle of the night.
Club Amor closes at 10 pm as far as I know. The few times I was at Amor, it did not seem like a "night club" place to hang out. Also the selection of girls was very limited. As in 1 or 2. At Carena there are normally more girls and you can hand out in the bar area all night.
Not sure if it was mentioned, there is a specific Berlin website:
[URL]https://www.omello.de/[/URL]
Mainly well-established MILFs. But I have had great luck there. Often some solid silicon and great service at reasonable prices.
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Carena
I'm surprised Carena is still around, thought it closed down years ago after it stopped advertising on Berlinitim. I first heard of this brothel back in early-mid 2010's.
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How is the English?
[QUOTE=Berliner2021;3023035]As mentioned below, old-school brothels in Friedrichshain are "Carena" and "Club Amor".
Main difference:
Carena is open until 5 in the morning. Perfect place to dive in the middle of the night.
Club Amor closes at 10 pm as far as I know. The few times I was at Amor, it did not seem like a "night club" place to hang out. Also the selection of girls was very limited. As in 1 or 2. At Carena there are normally more girls and you can hand out in the bar area all night.
Not sure if it was mentioned, there is a specific Berlin website:
[URL]https://www.omello.de/[/URL]
Mainly well-established MILFs. But I have had great luck there. Often some solid silicon and great service at reasonable prices.[/QUOTE]Sadly, as an American my foreign language skills are sub-par. I do speak a bit of German, but I don't communicate that well with it. Are these lovely MILFs going to have any English language skills?
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PSA: checked+ profiles at Berlin Intim
For quite a while now, berlinintim. De has been the biggest website for sex advertisements in Berlin. There always have been more fake pictures than real ones. There are so-called "checked" profiles, marked by a green bar. But most of them are fake too.
The website has now introduced a new kind of verified profiles called "checked+" and marked by a blue bar. These profiles contain at least one picture which appears to be a screenshot of a life video of the girl holding her cell phone in her hands. This picture is usually very low resolution, but at least it has not been edited by the girl at all.
To be able to see these pictures, you have to register with the website using your phone number. They say they use the telephone number only for verification and it seems to be true. I have registered three months ago and I haven't received a single spam message.
I highly recommend this function. The real photos are of very bad quality, but they still give you a much better idea of what to expect then those other highly edited photos. I'm sure scammers will soon find a way around. Enjoy this service while it lasts.
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[QUOTE=Leroy1969;3023097]Sadly, as an American my foreign language skills are sub-par. I do speak a bit of German, but I don't communicate that well with it. Are these lovely MILFs going to have any English language skills?[/QUOTE]Not issue: many speak some English as they foreigners themselves (from Poland, Ukraine, Romania etc).
Google or other translator apps fine when needed for real time speech. Plus you not there to talk about Nietzsche or Goethe.
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[QUOTE=Safado70;3023105]To be able to see these pictures, you have to register with the website using your phone number. They say they use the telephone number only for verification and it seems to be true. I have registered three months ago and I haven't received a single spam message.[/QUOTE]Giving phone numbers to pay for sex site famous for fake pictures. Of course you can trust them, never to share with others or police. What could possibly go wrong? Plenty of other ways to verify. Ninja would never do this.
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For you amusement, I want to share a story from my 2019 travelogue
[QUOTE=NookyNinja;3023183]Not issue: many speak some English as they foreigners themselves (from Poland, Ukraine, Romania etc).
Google or other translator apps fine when needed for real time speech. Plus you not there to talk about Nietzsche or Goethe.[/QUOTE]Before my 2019 Berlin trip, most of my prostitute experiences were in the USA with online escorts. One of the worst, and most amusing sexual experiences I have ever had was at a Berlin brothel. It was with a lady who pretended to not be able to communicate with me. It went like this:
My first experience was with a gal named Danika at Maison the' envie in Berlin. This was my first time in a brothel. It was 15:00 or 16:00 in the afternoon. Only 3 gals were working. The Madam spoke good English (a sexy black girl dressed in lingerie.) Of the 3 gals working, only one bothered to shake my hand. Danika was 5'4"ish tall, early 30's. Fake blond hair, pretty face, nice body, and B cup boobs. She was not the gal that shook my hand. Danika really sucked at her job. It was like she had never played with a penis before. It was down right comical. I would have been upset if it was not for her pleasant attitude. We started out with me paying 60 euros for 30 min. She starts by pulling on my limp dick. This goes on for a while, and it is doing nothing for me. (I was 39 years old. I was still recovering from jet lag) I try to ask for lube, but she speaks as little English as I do German. After a bit, I start thinking this is not going to work. I negotiate for BBBJ (+20) and some kissing (+30). She had no problem understanding this. Now, I am getting the worst BJ of my life. Just when it would start to feel good, her lips would get looser on my cock. So loose I could feel her breath escaping around it. I guess she has never heard the term "suck cock". (perhaps she was sand bagging?) I can't coach her because she can't understand me. As for the kisses, apparently those are not on my lips. (I showed up freshly showered, with freshly brushed teeth.) After about 20 min. A light bulb goes off in her head, and she gets some lube out. Things are going nowhere fast, so I take over stroking myself, while she pretends to be sexy. Soon I am hard, and starting to think about doggy style. This is when she communicates with me that time is almost up, and I need to finish. I stroke myself close to the finish line, then place her hand on my cock. Holy shit! I finished! (Does this count as getting a hand job? I found this whole experience very amusing. I can't believe this lady is a professional sex worker.
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[QUOTE=NookyNinja;3023184]Giving phone numbers to pay for sex site famous for fake pictures. Of course you can trust them, never to share with others or police. What could possibly go wrong? Plenty of other ways to verify. Ninja would never do this.[/QUOTE]I wasn't too happy to give my telephone number either. But police? You know that prostitution is legal in Germany, right?
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Personal Information
[QUOTE=Safado70;3023222]I wasn't too happy to give my telephone number either. But police? You know that prostitution is legal in Germany, right?[/QUOTE]That's still no reason for anyone to know your business. It may be legal, but many are still vehemently against it, and at the very least, could attempt to embarrass and / or ruin the reputation of a monger. It's always advisable to protect one's personally identifiable information. I would not provide my number in this situation.
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That is all over the place. Some of them might be more proficient in English than German.
Knowing Polish, Russian or some other Slavic lanugage would be of great help for you in 80% of the cases.
[QUOTE=Leroy1969;3023097]Sadly, as an American my foreign language skills are sub-par. I do speak a bit of German, but I don't communicate that well with it. Are these lovely MILFs going to have any English language skills?[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Safado70;3023222]I wasn't too happy to give my telephone number either. But police? You know that prostitution is legal in Germany, right?[/QUOTE]Ninja live in Berlin 22 years. So yes he know prostitution is legal. Ninja also know about all sorts of police raids, odd investigations & some on-going, and hacking (Google gmail compromised last week; you think local sex platforms have better security? And Cane below right about risk and reputation.
Just make 0 sense to give phone number when completely unnecessary. Your identity must be verified to view some photos and videos, when you can get girl contacts anyway from website as is? Obviously your choice- but think.
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[QUOTE=NookyNinja;3023359]Ninja live in Berlin 22 years. So yes he know prostitution is legal. Ninja also know about all sorts of police raids, odd investigations & some on-going, and hacking (Google gmail compromised last week; you think local sex platforms have better security? And Cane below right about risk and reputation.
Just make 0 sense to give phone number when completely unnecessary. Your identity must be verified to view some photos and videos, when you can get girl contacts anyway from website as is? Obviously your choice- but think.[/QUOTE]Can I resolve your dispute by offering to use virtual numbers? This should be enough for additional registration.
The number from [URL]https://onlinesim.io[/URL] will most likely work (if only sms is needed for verification).
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Flat Rate Brothels
Do flat rate brothels still exist in Germany? Places such as the King George.
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Nope
[QUOTE=Dlhead01;3023639]Do flat rate brothels still exist in Germany? Places such as the King George.[/QUOTE]They do not. They were outlawed a few years back. Use the Google if you need more information.
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4 photos
[QUOTE=NookyNinja;3023359]Ninja live in Berlin 22 years. So yes he know prostitution is legal. Ninja also know about all sorts of police raids, odd investigations & some on-going, and hacking (Google gmail compromised last week; you think local sex platforms have better security? And Cane below right about risk and reputation.
Just make 0 sense to give phone number when completely unnecessary. Your identity must be verified to view some photos and videos, when you can get girl contacts anyway from website as is? Obviously your choice- but think.[/QUOTE]It's not about getting a girls telephone number. It's about avoiding bait and switch and about getting a realistic idea of what to expect when you meet the girl. I'll put here some photos as an example. 2 girls, for each girl one photoshopped photo and one verification photo.
I definitely understand your concern, but just out of curiosity, how would you guys contact a prostitute, a pimp or an escort service without using your telephone?
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[QUOTE=Safado70;3023836]It's not about getting a girls telephone number. It's about avoiding bait and switch and about getting a realistic idea of what to expect when you meet the girl.
I definitely understand your concern, but just out of curiosity, how would you guys contact a prostitute, a pimp or an escort service without using your telephone?[/QUOTE]Contacting directly very different from having number stored for years on large platform database. Plus "verification" photo no guarantee it is real, or that you will feel chemistry when meetup. All part of joys of P4 P.
Ninja think topic now exhausted. Only wanted to raise issue; you judge if benefits greater than potential risks.
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Please tell me more
[QUOTE=Berliner2021;3023035]As mentioned below, old-school brothels in Friedrichshain are "Carena" and "Club Amor".
Main difference:
Carena is open until 5 in the morning. Perfect place to dive in the middle of the night.
Club Amor closes at 10 pm as far as I know. The few times I was at Amor, it did not seem like a "night club" place to hang out. Also the selection of girls was very limited. As in 1 or 2. At Carena there are normally more girls and you can hand out in the bar area all night.
Not sure if it was mentioned, there is a specific Berlin website:
[URL]https://www.omello.de/[/URL]
Mainly well-established MILFs. But I have had great luck there. Often some solid silicon and great service at reasonable prices.[/QUOTE]At Carena, I am worried about being up sold. I am told they will try and sell me bottles of sparkling wine, or also by the glass for the ladies. Then, they will hit you with a big bill. Is this your experience?
You have been to Amor? Is it more of a massage place with up-sell to happy ending and full service. Or, it it a proper pick a girl, negotiate price, then bang Brothel?
It is 2 blocks from my hotel. I feel like Jesus put me there for a reason. He wants to to go there and bang a lovely lady.
I have not seen this Omello web site before. Do you have a favorite, or favorite MILFs that you recommend? I do enjoy banging MILFs. .
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[QUOTE=Leroy1969;3024504]It is 2 blocks from my hotel. I feel like Jesus put me there for a reason. He wants to to go there and bang a lovely lady.[/QUOTE]If you go there and say Jesus sent you, no up-selling.
[QUOTE]I have not seen this Omello web site before. Do you have a favorite, or favorite MILFs that you recommend? I do enjoy banging MILFs. .[/QUOTE]MILF HQ in Berlin: [url]ginas-tango-rosa.de/heute[/url] in Steglitz. Difficult to advise because all depend on chemistry and taste.
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I'm in.
[QUOTE=NookyNinja;3024950]If you go there and say Jesus sent you, no up-selling.
MILF HQ in Berlin: [url]ginas-tango-rosa.de/heute[/url] in Steglitz. Difficult to advise because all depend on chemistry and taste.[/QUOTE]I would happily bang 90% of the ladies at GTS. I am typically not a fan of fake tits, but I can make them work on the right lady.
My flight lands on a Wednesday. I will probably hit up Amor on Thursday. I have a threesome scheduled with two lovely escort ladies on Saturday. On Monday, I will probably hit up Mona Roses for a beer and a look. Then, head to GTR.
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Going to Berlin this week for a day -this Tuesday
Hi all, I am considering spending a day at Artemis. It might be the least stressful option? Arriving on a Tuesday and planning on getting the S-bhan into the city. I am guessing getting off at the WestKreuz stop? Stay in a hotel close to there and head home the following day. I will report back, new to forum. Has anyone a better suggestion? I was considering the KitKat club but I don't think Tuesday night will be great? Otherwise just a hooker friendly hotel and hire a couple of visitors. Has anyone a better suggestion than going to Artemis for the day?
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[QUOTE=RandomName13;3025220]Hi all, I am considering spending a day at Artemis. It might be the least stressful option? Arriving on a Tuesday and planning on getting the S-bhan into the city. I am guessing getting off at the WestKreuz stop? Stay in a hotel close to there and head home the following day. I will report back, new to forum. Has anyone a better suggestion? I was considering the KitKat club but I don't think Tuesday night will be great? Otherwise just a hooker friendly hotel and hire a couple of visitors. Has anyone a better suggestion than going to Artemis for the day?[/QUOTE]Not sure what "least stress" means? Obviously less running around at A: can swim, eat etc. But KitKat as least stress, when action not guaranteed (if that is point)?
Anyway S-Bahn Westkreuz is correct. Art's has more options and for 3+ girls per day, makes sense financially (not so much with only 2 when you do math vs bordellos). But Mon-Tues also relatively slower there. IFA Messe still on so either everyone completely exhausted or line up still ok. Impossible to know ahead of visit.
Alternative bordellos: Liberty, Prestige (near Art's), or Ginas Tango Rosa. You must look websites and decide if taste & chemistry etc. right. Call (all speak English) just to be sure someone actually there, that day and when.
If you end up at Art's, report back on ISG Artemis thread, bitte. See [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2588-FKK-Artemis-Berlin[/URL].
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[QUOTE=NookyNinja;3025495]
Alternative bordellos: Liberty, Prestige (near Art's), or Ginas Tango Rosa.[/QUOTE]Don't forget Royal if you have the cash.
Talking about Royal, girls there are now charging 70 Euros extra for BBBJ. Insert shocked and sad emoji here
I think extra for DFK is still 30.
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[QUOTE=Safado70;3025537]Don't forget Royal if you have the cash. Talking about Royal, girls there are now charging 70 Euros extra for BBBJ. Insert shocked and sad emoji here
I think extra for DFK is still 30.[/QUOTE]Which is why Ninja not mention them. Girls not that much better than other places, decor moderately better but unless you JD Vance, beautiful sofa not so interesting. Another option might be new Herrenhaus, but it also not cheap.
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[QUOTE=NookyNinja;3025495]Not sure what "least stress" means? Obviously less running around at A: can swim, eat etc. But KitKat as least stress, when action not guaranteed (if that is point)?
Anyway S-Bahn Westkreuz is correct. Art's has more options and for 3+ girls per day, makes sense financially (not so much with only 2 when you do math vs bordellos). But Mon-Tues also relatively slower there. IFA Messe still on so either everyone completely exhausted or line up still ok. Impossible to know ahead of visit.
Alternative bordellos: Liberty, Prestige (near Art's), or Ginas Tango Rosa. You must look websites and decide if taste & chemistry etc. right. Call (all speak English) just to be sure someone actually there, that day and when.
If you end up at Art's, report back on ISG Artemis thread, bitte. See [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2588-FKK-Artemis-Berlin[/URL].[/QUOTE]Thanls for the reply, I think least stress meant just turn up, check out the women and FFFF any I fancy without ringing around escorts or going to different brothels.
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Escort math.
[QUOTE=NookyNinja;3025495]NArt's has more options and for 3+ girls per day, makes sense financially (not so much with only 2 when you do math vs bordellos). [/QUOTE]I find that as I age, the idea that I can sit around, decide which girl, then debate a bit more, finally go upstairs and enjoyand then after, sit and wait til the urge returns watching beautiful naked/ near naked ladies, is enough of a reason for a FKK visit. Math never enters into it. If you book an escort you often have to decide the services before you get there and even whether her mood will match yours. At a Bordello you have a brief (er) chance to find the right attitude. There really is a value in itself in deciding 2, 3, or 4 girls and 2, 3, 4 or more hours. You don't have to leave if you're hungry or want a reasonably priced drink. And in many of the clubs, there is a professional masseuse to visit to help recharge. Intangible but worth the price.
If you think of the money I wasted in NYC and Toronto in my youth in strip clubs and at best got a blow job in a back corner, this is like winning the lottery.
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Strip Clubs
[QUOTE=Tintin1;3025954]I find that as I age, the idea that I can sit around, decide which girl, then debate a bit more, finally go upstairs and enjoyand then after, sit and wait til the urge returns watching beautiful naked/ near naked ladies, is enough of a reason for a FKK visit. Math never enters into it. If you book an escort you often have to decide the services before you get there and even whether her mood will match yours. At a Bordello you have a brief (er) chance to find the right attitude. There really is a value in itself in deciding 2, 3, or 4 girls and 2, 3, 4 or more hours. You don't have to leave if you're hungry or want a reasonably priced drink. And in many of the clubs, there is a professional masseuse to visit to help recharge. Intangible but worth the price.
If you think of the money I wasted in NYC and Toronto in my youth in strip clubs and at best got a blow job in a back corner, this is like winning the lottery.[/QUOTE]I wasted a lot of money in strip clubs too! But hey, back in the day, the ones in San Francisco were the best! I was able to fuck in the Bay Area clubs, and even fucked an attractive blonde in the ass! I would say most of those girls weren't even "strippers" or "dancers" but straight up hoors. Not all fucked in the club though. You had to discover the ones who fucked. And I did LOL! Today you couldn't pay me to waste my time in an American strip club! Apparently a lot of people feel that way as I read a recent article stating that most of the clubs are on life support. Too expensive for what you get!
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Oh man. Cane. I bet we crossed paths.
[QUOTE=TheCane;3025956]I wasted a lot of money in strip clubs too! But hey, back in the day, the ones in San Francisco were the best! I was able to fuck in the Bay Area clubs, and even fucked an attractive blonde in the ass! I would say most of those girls weren't even "strippers" or "dancers" but straight up hoors. Not all fucked in the club though. You had to discover the ones who fucked. And I did LOL! Today you couldn't pay me to waste my time in an American strip club! Apparently a lot of people feel that way as I read a recent article stating that most of the clubs are on life support. Too expensive for what you get![/QUOTE]OMG I bet we were in Market Street Cinema at the same time. There was this Latina. Get her early in her shift and all was amazing. Back area in the cabinas. DAMN. The other clubs were pricier and most offered only BJs but MSC you could basically treat like a bordello. I think O'Farrell St had the phone booths thatopened onto the small stage runway. The dildo shows were great. You bringing back the best of memories man.
If you google MSC correctly, deep down somewhere you come up with a series of photos that a guy did over the years, b&w but you might recognize a girl or two. ANd the mama in the back room, blocking the way to the "VIP" areas. HA HA she was a treat. My "club wingman" used to say, he paid a lot of girls rents over the years.... lot of money down the drain, but such good times.
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Market Street Cinema!
[QUOTE=Tintin1;3026089]OMG I bet we were in Market Street Cinema at the same time. There was this Latina. Get her early in her shift and all was amazing. Back area in the cabinas. DAMN. The other clubs were pricier and most offered only BJs but MSC you could basically treat like a bordello. I think O'Farrell St had the phone booths thatopened onto the small stage runway. The dildo shows were great. You bringing back the best of memories man.
If you google MSC correctly, deep down somewhere you come up with a series of photos that a guy did over the years, b&w but you might recognize a girl or two. ANd the mama in the back room, blocking the way to the "VIP" areas. HA HA she was a treat. My "club wingman" used to say, he paid a lot of girls rents over the years.... lot of money down the drain, but such good times.[/QUOTE]That's where I used to fuck the most LOL! And that's where I fucked blondie in the ass hahaha! My favorite was another blonde who used to go by "Rita Erotica". We would go to the back, and she would suck a condom onto my dick. Then she would stand up and turn around, and I would fuck her from behind standing up. One time the condom shredded, and unbeknownst to either of us at the moment, I "nutted" in her! I had so many wild times with "dancers" at the Market Street Cinema I can't begin to convey how much LOLOLOL! Oh man!
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[QUOTE=TheCane;3026094]I had so many wild times with "dancers" at the Market Street Cinema I can't begin to convey how much LOLOLOL! Oh man![/QUOTE]Wonderful you boys connected on boinking in San Francisco decades ago. But this is Berlin thread. So maybe continue now in PMs, as you both senior members.
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Oh come on Ninja!
[QUOTE=NookyNinja;3026227]Wonderful you boys connected on boinking in San Francisco decades ago. But this is Berlin thread. So maybe continue now in PMs, as you both senior members.[/QUOTE]We know where we are and need no reminders. There's always room for just a little indulgence before going too far. I'm on my way to Germany soon. I'll have plenty of on topic posts regarding the latest adventure, as I always do.
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[QUOTE=NookyNinja;3026227]Wonderful you boys connected on boinking in San Francisco decades ago. But this is Berlin thread. So maybe continue now in PMs, as you both senior members.[/QUOTE]Ok. Point taken but I see a certain senior guy spend 50% of his thousands of posts talking about how the current situation isn't like it was 10 or 20 years ago and you let that go. Let two old timers reminisce about our youth for a day. There was this Latina I used to see who wore fake glasses and couldn't even bother to put in plain glass lenses no lenses at all! If a girl did that today at Artemis or any FKKs people would post chapters about it in the forum.
But ok. I'll save the joy stick story for the chat feature.
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Club Amor
So, I took one for the team. I booked a hotel. After booking, I realized there was a bordell 3 blocks away. Now, I know the lord works in mysterious ways. Jesus put me in a hotel by a brothell for a reason. I looked for online reviews, and came up wanting. (We call these red flags in English speaking countries.) So, I made some time to go down there, and it went like this.
I ring the bell, after a short wait. A friendly lady greets me. I am led inside. I know the importance of communications during sexy-time. I know I speak the local language like shit. I also know that most of the ladies in places like this are not local. I speak the modern language of commerce, English. These English speaking ladies know how to use that against me.
I am pretty sure it was Sonja who greeted me. I know to screen for communication purposes. So I fired off "Sprechen zee English Bitte" as I came in. Sanja was doing her best to pretend to speak English. I was led inside, and into room. It was pretty 2nd rate. It had a shower, lots of mirrors, and a bed. My kind of second rate. Sanja came back to introduce herself. Then, a cute black lady did the same. However, her body language told me she did not want me as a customer. Sanja pretended to be all-in.
Sanja profile: I am a a small fellow 167 cm, She was about that size. Plump fake tits that cost extra to touch, and an ass too small. Her face was pretty enough. She was between 30 and 40 years old.
Inside the room, Sanjay starts asking what I want. I let her know I wand French kisses. Oral with out, and I want to fuck. She asks how long, and I say 30 minutes. She tells me €60, and I hand it over. She comes back. And gives me a list of services. (We had already ruled out a message) After a short discussion she comes to €110. I undress, and we talk some more. I add another €40. Not sure what fore, but I was in a consensual mood. So, now we are at €220 for a one shot, 30 minute encounter. Sanjay enthusiastically helps me undress. Soon, we are on the bed. I ask for oral with out, but she is not down. She starts an awful covered blow job. I do my best to tell her this is a waste of time on me. Soon, I am getting a proper hand job, without a condom. I will give her a 7 of 10 for that. Soon, I have a beautiful erection. She mentions fucking, (I was actually surprised, I had figured she was going to try to rush me to finish with her hand). I ask her to ride my cock. She assumes the doggy style position, and I go to work. We don't do for long, and she is encouraging me to finish. I did my best to communicate I was not there. She suggests a different position. I said, "I want you to ride my cock. " Since she was pretending to not communicate, we wound up in missionary. She actually looked me in the eyes for 37% of the time I fucked her. I GOT ACROSS THE FINISH LINE! I filled that condom with a dandy load. She helps me clean up. Then offers me a shower. She tells me it will be €20. I told her I was out of money. (I was not. I was out of budget for bullshit) I washed my dick in the sink.
I left giggling. I knew better than to roll these dice, and got the appropriate outcome. I got to cum, and it was fun. So, that is a win.
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Bank A More
[QUOTE=Leroy1969;3027255]So, I took one for the team. ..So, now we are at 220 for a one shot, 30 minute encounter. I left giggling. I knew better than to roll these dice, and got the appropriate outcome. I got to cum, and it was fun. So, that is a win.[/QUOTE]I bet she giggling too. Thanks for helping Berlin economy. But for most people, this tale of caution to avoid place.
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Berlin
Hello everyone, just looking for some information to help on our trip we are meeting family in Germany but intend to go to Spain France etc try to experience as much as possible within a few weeks all we have. Myself wife and daughter and ideas for nudist places to stay in area that are best for our situation maybe b&b info if decent too. Like to experience sexual side of Europe while there the most and would love any tips help or advice or anything could help we have a while before we go. Please feel free to message and thank you for assistance.
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Is anyone planning to go to Venus sex expo event this week?
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[QUOTE=DonnaGary131;3027991] Myself wife and daughter and ideas for nudist places to stay in area that are best for our situation maybe b&b info if decent too. Like to experience sexual side of Europe[/QUOTE]No idea really what you are asking here? This is mostly pay for sex thread in Berlin - you want venue where all can join in? Or just nudist places? No idea how old daughter is. But if 18+, maybe club Insomnia, for many sex options from just watching to doing. If you just want to be naked with others, in wellness atmosphere, Vabali Berlin good, also wellness spa Fontane Therme in Neuruppin 1 hour north. All have heated pools and tubs, inside and out, but now with colder season, not as good as summer. All easily found on Internet. But explain more what you / family want??
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[QUOTE=NookyNinja;3028132]No idea really what you are asking here? This is mostly pay for sex thread in Berlin - you want venue where all can join in? Or just nudist places? No idea how old daughter is. But if 18+, maybe club Insomnia, for many sex options from just watching to doing. If you just want to be naked with others, in wellness atmosphere, Vabali Berlin good, also wellness spa Fontane Therme in Neuruppin 1 hour north. All have heated pools and tubs, inside and out, but now with colder season, not as good as summer. All easily found on Internet. But explain more what you / family want??[/QUOTE]Yes I knew pay for play place of course but also know so many people sharp know good info and could of been more specific my bad and yes daughter is 18 wife 38 and myself 52 we have nudist places here we have all been to as family just did not know places accept frown or just any info people wanted to pass on or even maybe get to know but really appreciate your response and taking time to do it, not sure I get direct messages or not trying to be a member but easy as thought with contact us I have no idea after btc but that is another issue.
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[QUOTE=DonnaGary131;3028163]Yes I knew pay for play place of course but also know so many people sharp know good info and could of been more specific my bad and yes daughter is 18 wife 38 and myself 52 we have nudist places here we have all been to as family just did not know places accept frown or just any info people wanted to pass on or even maybe get to know but really appreciate your response and taking time to do it, not sure I get direct messages or not trying to be a member but easy as thought with contact us I have no idea after btc but that is another issue.[/QUOTE]Dots and commas would make your text more readable.
Here you have some: . . . . , , , ,
If not enough, please copy them before use.
I am sorry, I did not understand a word, of what you are looking for!
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Wheelchair options
I'll be in Berlin next week. In the past, I've always visited private ladies, but now that I'm in a wheelchair, that seems less convenient. I can still walk a bit indoors, but it's become impossible to walk outside or climb stairs. I could consider an escort, but I haven't heard much good about that. Are there any wheelchair-accessible places, or do you know any reliable escort agencies / ladies? Thanks in advance for your reply.
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[QUOTE=TommyVa;3028260]I'll be in Berlin next week. In the past, I've always visited private ladies, but now that I'm in a wheelchair, that seems less convenient. I can still walk a bit indoors, but it's become impossible to walk outside or climb stairs. I could consider an escort, but I haven't heard much good about that. Are there any wheelchair-accessible places, or do you know any reliable escort agencies / ladies? Thanks in advance for your reply.[/QUOTE]Liberty brothel has an elevator and should be okay for you. Independent girls you find at berlinintim, ladies. De kaufmich. De you can ask directly.
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Wheel Chair Access 2
Ginas-Tango-Rosa (Steglitz) [url]https://ginas-tango-rosa.de/have-sex-in-berlin/[/url] and Prestige (Halensee) [url]https://www.salon-prestige-berlin.de/modelle[/url] all street level access and ground floor rooms. Ginas lots of choices friendly good value.
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Wheelchair 3
[QUOTE=NookyNinja;3028326]Ginas-Tango-Rosa (Steglitz) [url]https://ginas-tango-rosa.de/have-sex-in-berlin/[/url] and Prestige (Halensee) [url]https://www.salon-prestige-berlin.de/modelle[/url] all street level access and ground floor rooms. Ginas lots of choices friendly good value.[/QUOTE]Whatever you choose, always worth it to call first (all speak enough English) to be sure web site girl actually there on day / hour of interest. In general, obvious more busy at lunch time or late in day, Monday & Friday busier than rest, some bordellos not open Sundays. Worth a little homework to increase odds.
Ninja never like to make booking without at least first see and talk, even if only 5 min, to sense chemistry. If girl look at Ninja, turn green in face, and grab stomach, these are signs session may not be good.
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Liberty Bordello Shuts Down
[QUOTE=Safado70;3028314]Liberty brothel has an elevator and should be okay for you.[/QUOTE]Closed on 1 Oct 2025. This is end of era; Liberty was a Go-To place for over 20 years. Some rumors on local Lusthaus. CC site it will relocate but all unclear.
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Liberty Bordello
[QUOTE=NookyNinja;3030082]Closed on 1 Oct 2025. This is end of era; Liberty was a Go-To place for over 20 years. Some rumors on local Lusthaus. CC site it will relocate but all unclear.[/QUOTE]Great! Just in time for me not to be able to go there and try it out when I get to Berlin! Damn!
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2025, October, Liberty Agentur: the end!
[QUOTE=NookyNinja;3030082]Closed on 1 Oct 2025. This is end of era; Liberty was a Go-To place for over 20 years. Some rumors on local Lusthaus. CC site it will relocate but all unclear.[/QUOTE][URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?3583-Berlin-Agentur-Liberty-(Liberty)&p=3030104&viewfull=1#post3030104[/URL]
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More than FKKs
It is nice that the Berlin thread has reports from other forms of paid sex instead of focusing on FKKs and RLDs like in other German threads. I said before, but aside from FKKs, the German sex scene is not popular these days on ISG. BTW, what brothels have closed in the past decade?
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"BTW, what brothels have closed in the past decade?"
[QUOTE=BaltiX;3030203]... BTW, what brothels have closed in the past decade?[/QUOTE]Kamilla Dee: [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?3590-Berlin-Kamilla-Dee-(KD)&p=2039547&viewfull=1#post2039547[/URL].
Now, let's have a regular look at "Salon Prestige" (whose boss (a lady) was also Liberty's boss if I remember well) : [URL]https://www.salon-prestige-berlin.de/[/URL].
"Salon Prestige"'s thread : [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?3587-Berlin-Salon-Prestige-(Prestige)[/URL]
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Airport Girls
Hi everyone,
The last time I was in Berlin was back in 2018, and I visited a place near Schönefeld Airport called "Airport Girls". It was an all-inclusive venue—pay at the door, and drinks and girls were included.
It looks like the place is no longer operating. I found an old Facebook page, but it hasn't been updated in years: [URL]https://www.facebook.com/p/Airport-Girls-Club-100063830822316[/URL]
Does anyone know what happened to it, or if there are any similar places in Berlin these days?
Thanks in advance.
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Not my cup of tea for a hit-and-run
I've been in Berlin a few times in the last years, and I found it a strange place to find red light fun. Tons of sex workers, but most of the time well-hidden and scattered in a giant city that requires a lot of time to be traveled. The lack of red light districts (exept for one, but it's a low-life direction to take) and laufhauses, and the general high rates make Berlin a poor choice for an hit-and-run journey. On the other side the city is huge and almost every district has his sex services (if you can find them), the girls are many and various, the asian parlors are spreading all over the city.
Here a few tips if you find yourself horny in Berlin:
- Artemis Sauna Club: it's almost impossibile not start from the most famous brothel in town. An FKK sauna club with a big free-roaming area with 2 cinemas, spa, saunas, lap-dance floor, gym, self service restaurant. Many girls, from average to good and sometimes very good. Girls there are various so you may find the experience you chased for a long time (like full-body tattoed goth, skinny, ebony, female bodybuilder.). Service is decent (a little bit quick, girls want to pick as many clients as they can), staying a few hours may be fun (it's usual to find someone fucking in the cinemas), but definitely a demanding experience in terms of time and money (you pay for entrance, and when you're there you tend to pick at least two girl);.
- Kurfürstenstraße area: and then the most infamous place in Berlin. Kurfürstenstraße and the surrounding area are walked night and day by streets workers, most east-european young girls, some mature women, even some shemales. Some are decent, some very bad, some worse than that. There is a general sense of low-life and addiction, some girls are wandering like zombies around drug dealers, some have mental breakdowns. If you pick them they propose to go in a nearby park, or in a sex-shop cabin. A few propose to go in a nearby hotel that offer to rent a room for 20 minutes. It would be better to stay away from that place, but curiosity leads you there at least one time. My advice is to go at the corner with Karl-Heinrich-Ulrichs-Straße, last time I went there there were two young european girls that lead you to a nearby hotel. I found that sometimes you can find some of the girls that works in that area in the Berlin section of [URL]https://booksusi.com[/URL].
- NGel and Paris No. 5 massage parlors: those are damn good places. Even if they are a little expensive and it's just erotic massage with strictly rules (no sex, no oral, just light fingering). But the atmosphere there is unique and some girls are goddesses. It's better to book, but when I went there at the end of an hard day of work they found me a spot with an available girl (can't remember the name). She was amazing and will never forget her body and the way she used her hand.
- Private girls: well, it's a whole universe there. I had just an experience and it was very bad, but It may be useful: I wanted some asian fun one night and I found an address for some China girls on ladies. De, they had some heavy photoshopped pics and they said they were a kind of massage parlor. Worst pick ever. A crumbling building in Charlottenburg with a gang sitting on the stairs. Inside was like a horror movies, all falling apart, it looked like it was abandoned. The apartment was better but less than decent, the girls were the one from the photos but older and heavier. And zero massage skills at all. Went out as soon as I could, and that experience restrained me from trying other private girls.
- Mona Roses: just entered there while I was walking in the district one day, found two mature women, average look. I was just curious and went out without doing anything. Had a long walk ahead and wanted to preserve my energies. Many Berlin brothels are so average.
- Golden Touch: a China massage and brothel. Again I found that place randomly and a tiny girl opened the door. Looked very cute and teeny, but once she took off her clothes revealed herself more mature than she looked at first sight. Fake massage, a light rimjob and a quick and mechanical fuck. She was in hurry to end the job and at one point she left the room without saying anything. Very bad and unprofessional place.
- Orchid Spa: best asian experience in town. I had a session with this "mature girl" that looked like she was in ther 40's but her body looked like she was in her 20's. Very skilled and hot, and kind. And horny.
- Ammara Thaimassage: beautiful girls there, very nice far-east atmosphere, the place were you want to go if you love thai girls. Had a session with this young blonde girl, very shy. Maybe she was just acting, but it worked and went for a lot of extras. Next time I will book one of the other girls because once you see them walking in the corridors. Well you want to try them at all costs.
So, how's Berlin? Not my fav city, not at all. But if you study, and you got money and time. You may find great experiences. Next time I will go for the clubs, they say that if you find the right one it's very easy to get laid.
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The Berlin Honey's. The Ménage à Trois. A top 5 experience.
Review of Nicky, StunningVenus.
[URL]https://www.kaufmich.com/p/stunningvenus?from_place=conversation_header[/URL]
I had the privilege of sharing a two-hour threesome with Nicky and her friend Cleo. I paid each lady €400 for 2 hours. It was €350 each, plus €50 to each lady for pictures. I just wanted just one. A selfie of the 3 of us after sex. This was my first threesome, and it was very special to me.
Nicky communicated well and was perfectly punctual. She's beautiful and sexy. Her pictures are accurate, but they still don't capture her true beauty — it has to be experienced in person.
She's witty and charming, and her banter was fun. Nicky is a passionate kisser and uses her tongue incredibly well. Everything she does with her mouth is pure pleasure. Her body is fit, firm, and sexy — physically tight in all the right ways. Quite tight.
Nicky is both sexy and sensual, but what really amazed me was the level of passion she brought. I'll say it again: "I ain't never been done like that!" Nicky is a sexy, savage, sexual monster — and a total girlfriend experience at the same time. WOW!
I'm planning to be back in Berlin next year, and I really hope I get to spend more time with Nicky. I had an amazing time with her.
Review of Cleo.
[URL]https://www.kaufmich.com/p/wdonsanl?from_place=user_tile[/URL]
Cleo was the other half of the threesome — and later became my professional Süßmaus for the rest of my time in Berlin. I saw her two more times after our session with Nicky. Each was a €200-per-hour meeting.
Her communication skills are second to none. She's sweet, fun, and unique. With her clothes on, she has that cute girl-next-door look I love — but when they come off, she has one of the most beautiful bodies I've ever seen. Her tits are cute, sexy, and perky. I love her pierced nipples and the natural bounce. Cleo's ass, hips, and thighs are a perfect work of art. I can't say enough about how physically attractive I find her — she's just fine.
In the bedroom, she's talented. Her French kisses are slow and sensual; I'the prefer some tongue, and I'll tell her that next time. Cleo is an amazing blow-job artist — a truly sensual fucker whose energy feels sweet and intimate. She rides cock like an expert and is pure fun in both missionary and doggy. She's got the best ass in the world, and her "dimples of Venus" do things to me I can't even describe. Fuck, she's hot!
Sweet, hot, cuddly, and really knows how to fuck. I'll be back in Berlin next year, and I absolutely plan to see this lovely woman again.
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Just one?
[QUOTE=Bobo.fr;3030390]Kamilla Dee: [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?3590-Berlin-Kamilla-Dee-(KD)&p=2039547&viewfull=1#post2039547[/URL].
Now, let's have a regular look at "Salon Prestige" (whose boss (a lady) was also Liberty's boss if I remember well) : [URL]https://www.salon-prestige-berlin.de/[/URL].
"Salon Prestige"'s thread : [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?3587-Berlin-Salon-Prestige-(Prestige)[/URL][/QUOTE]I searched old posts one and found two more brothels that closed in past decade: Tiffany / Ritter11 and L'amour.
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[QUOTE=Leroy1969;3031029]Review of Nicky, StunningVenus, Review of Cleo.[/QUOTE]This really good evidence of how mother nature provide wide variety to respond to different tastes.
For Ninja, both seem remarkably unremarkable, given many other options, at [I]far less cost[/I]. Maybe next time try private bordellos, just to compare.
But value & chemistry different for each customer. Glad you had great time.
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[QUOTE=NookyNinja;3031101]This really good evidence of how mother nature provide wide variety to respond to different tastes.
For Ninja, both seem remarkably unremarkable, given many other options, at [I]far less cost[/I]. Maybe next time try private bordellos, just to compare.
But value & chemistry different for each customer. Glad you had great time.[/QUOTE]I have had 3 bordello experiences. Only one was actually good, and that was down at GTR. GTR is a bit of a journey.
In 2019 I went to Maison the'envie. It was near where I was staying. I had an awful experience.
This trip Club Amar was near me. My experience there was laughable.
What bordellos do you recommend? What ladies?
I am 2 for 2 with escorts from Kauf Mich. These 2 ladies were awesome.
I had an amazing experience down on beöblingen, at Sakura FKK. I will try Artemis next time I am in Berlin.
I have had enough bad experiences, that I am kind of gun shy about anyone, or anywhere that is not reviewed.
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Brothels in Berlin (2025 Oct.)
[QUOTE=Leroy1969;3031141]
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What bordellos do you recommend? What ladies?
.....[/QUOTE]I don't have the pretention to recommend. I'm just afraid that now.
- the brothel above average would be Royal [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?3592-Berlin-Royal[/URL].
- the (slightly under) average brothels would be.
Salon Prestige [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?3587-Berlin-Salon-Prestige-(Prestige)[/URL].
New Van Kampen [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?3594-Berlin-Van-Kampen-(VK)[/URL].
Gina Tango Rosa [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?3629-Berlin-Gina-s-Tango-Rosa-(GTR)[/URL].
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Closed bordellos in Berlin
[QUOTE=BaltiX;3031050]I searched old posts one and found two more brothels that closed in past decade: Tiffany / Ritter11 and L'amour.[/QUOTE]"Salon Kitty" in Giesebrecht-street, Charlottenburg, was also closed in the last century.
[URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salon_Kitty[/URL]
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Ritter 11 was great and is now a legend. Liberty was the last one worth visiting unless you are into schematic cheap unloading. Luckily the apartment scene (Berlinintim, sometimes Markt) still has many pleasant surprises.
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[QUOTE=Bobo.fr;3031185]I don't have the pretention to recommend. I'm just afraid that now.
- the brothel above average would be Royal [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?3592-Berlin-Royal[/URL].
- the (slightly under) average brothels would be.
Salon Prestige [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?3587-Berlin-Salon-Prestige-(Prestige)[/URL].
New Van Kampen [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?3594-Berlin-Van-Kampen-(VK)[/URL].
Gina Tango Rosa [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?3629-Berlin-Gina-s-Tango-Rosa-(GTR)[/URL].[/QUOTE]Months ago, closer to the start of the year I think, someone stopped at 3 bordellos en route to Artemis. I don't think he found much but the methodology of walking in and then out let him experience first hand what was "on the buffet line". Two are in the same greater area of Artemis. That seemed like the way to plan the evening rather than hope the website is accurate If I find the report. I'll repost (it may be in the Artemis forum for all I remember).
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The New Van Kampen
Any experiences with or thoughts about this place (seems expensive): [URL]https://newvankampen.berlin/[/URL].
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[QUOTE=TheCane;3031241]Any experiences with or thoughts about this place (seems expensive): [URL]https://newvankampen.berlin/[/URL].[/QUOTE]It is, especially for what it is, and has for Ninja weird vibe. Girls also seem to leave, more than others. Polnische girls [URL]sb98.info [/URL]around the corner kind of chaotic but can be good value.
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The Unroyal Treatment
Today I decided to try out a bordello. I had never done that in Germany before. In Berlin, usually I would just go to Artemis several days in a row at different times of day until I got my fill. But this time I chose to do something different, especially since my first night back in Berlin proved that Artemis no longer is what it used to be talent wise. I ordered an Uber and arrived at Royal Bordello around 2 pm in the afternoon. I pushed the button outside and was buzzed in. The place is located on the second floor, and I had to remember that's the third floor in my country where the ground floor is 1, but is 0 in Germany and many other countries (I will never accept this LOL).
So, I get up there, and an old German lady is waiting for me with the door cracked open. Upon entering, she ushered me into a little sitting room and said she spoke a bit of English. She explained that there were two charges, one to rent a room and one for the girl. The cost of the room depended on how much time I wanted. For one hour the cost was 100 euros, and for the girl it would be the same as the cost for the room, or 200 euros total. Cash only. I had a seat, and with that she went to get the girls to have them present themselves. Three came out, with two of them being 6's and the third a 7. None of them caught my fancy.
I asked the lady if there were only three girls available. She said there were more in house, 4 more to be exact, but that they were all busy with other clients. For some reason, I didn't feel like she was telling the truth, and that three was all she had on a Monday afternoon. My suspicion that she was lying was bolstered when I asked if I might be able to wait a bit to see some of the other girls later who were supposedly busy. Her answer was no, that I needed to make a choice if I wanted to stay. And with that, I amicably chose to leave. I had not eaten yet, and decided to treat myself for a meal at a Chinese restaurant I saw across the street.
I satisfied my hunger with a tasty dinner of won ton soup, a cucumber salad, and crispy duck with vegetables and rice. To drink, I had a glass of water and a bitter lemon soft drink. And for dessert an ice cream and bananas concoction. Now you guys are probably wondering if The Cane has lost his mind! Who cares right? Well, I go into the details of my dinner to emphasize that it was the most exciting part of my day LOL! Yes, I would rather be eating puss and ass, but it's just not going down. It's not happening! I'm ready to spend some money. I'm ready to fuck! But I'm not seeing quality talent! I'm nearly two weeks into this voyage, having gone to 10 different establishments in 3 cities, and I've fucked a grand total of 3 girls. [B]Three[/B]!
This is bad guys. This is bad. This is [B]dire[/B] my brothers. This is easily shaping up to be my worst mongering trip to Germany ever, and one of the worst of all times for me. I finished up my meal and paid 36 plus euros for it plus tip. A lot better than the nonsense I paid to experience Artemis just the night before. I caught an Uber back to my hotel, whereupon my arrival, I prepared this dreadful field report. As I rode along the way, I took simple pleasure in the fact that the sun was finally shining in Germany again. It's not over until it's over! There's still tomorrow. And I got a lot of more! I got a lot of more! I got a lot of more to go! The sun is shining, and there's always tomorrow!
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The New Post-Covid World
[QUOTE=TheCane;3031901]Today I decided to try out a bordello. I had never done that in Germany before. [/QUOTE]1. You have to call ahead, see who is available and when. Not to book; just to know to time visit. Always.
2. Doubt Hausmutti was lying; probably knew others busy for 30+ minutes and did not want monger hanging around.
3. Ginas Tango Rosa (Steglitz), or Prestige (Halensee) better alternatives, certainly better prices. Maybe also [url]Fuchs-34.de[/url] in Mitte. All taste things. New Herrenhaus expensive, but option.
4. Try massage alternatives: Sensual Massage (Wilmersdorf) very flexible on extras; Wolke7, Idyll also.
5. Try BerlinIntim, especially Newcomer page (lots of young analitas ;) ), or Omello (more MILFy), or Kaufmich websites for indies. Yes more work, but good options. Ninja theory that some girls prefer more control, less crowds and microbes, since Covid.
6. There are weak days. There are stronger days. Everywhere.
7. Yes -as almost all DE threads say, scene has changed. Must be like Marines: adapt.
8. You can always find work as tour and restaurant guide.
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Change
[QUOTE=NookyNinja;3032024]Doubt Hausmutti was lying; probably knew others busy for 30+ minutes and did not want monger hanging around. As almost all DE threads say, scene has changed. Must be like Marines: adapt. You can always find work as tour and restaurant guide.[/QUOTE]It's rare for me to visit an establishment where a monger who isn't quite ready to make a choice can't have a seat and maybe a drink and see who else is on the menu later. Being required to choose an ugly or leave is less than "the Royal treatment" if you ask me. And yes, this is my first time back in Germany since COVID, and I am experiencing first hand the serious decline in the quality of the sex scene in FKKLand. I have spent more money on Uber fares and club admission charges than I have on actually fucking! At least I didn't have to pay an admission charge to enter Royal Bordello. My adaptation shall be to not return to Germany anytime soon in favor of "hitting other beaches". And thanks for the career advice, but I'm comfortably and happily retired!
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Ekstasse Massage
So, today I decided to try a massage place here in Berlin. Initially, I was going to sample another bordello, but they really aren't my thing, and never have been. But, massages are, and I routinely make them a part of the deal at the FKKs. I did some online research, starting with the massage parlors that Nooky Ninja suggested, and was close to settling on Sensual Massage. But when I started to read the reviews, I found a lot of bad ones! Girls who don't know what they're doing and really shouldn't be there, a "massage" that was so poor it was a ripoff, stolen money, etc. With this, I decided to strike Sensual Massage and take a chance on an establishment I read about that seemed to have mostly good reviews overtime. That would be Ekstasse Massage.
Opening time was Noon, and I arrived by Uber around 12:30 pm. I rang the bell and was buzzed in, then walked up to the first floor where I had to ring yet another bell. A cute, non-German looking girl opened the door and confirmed I was in the right place. From there she took me to a room that looked pretty nice. The outside appearance of the entire building itself looked kind of dumpy, but on the inside it was actually OK. I was interested in an hour-long massage, and the girl said the total cost would be 120 euros (60 for the room and 60 for the girl) with a handjob included (she didn't say it but I assumed extras were available for more). I asked if nuru massages were available and she looked kind of confused at first, then gave me an unconvincing "yes". She then left the room and said next the girls would come in to present themselves.
Then after just a few minutes [B]one[/B] ugly, washed up, over the hill, German woman just shy of being a 100% certified hag walks into the room and she introduces herself! With her fucking FUPA (fat upper pussy area)! She said that she was the only one available who could do a nuru massage. So I'm thinking to myself, "You have to be fucking kidding me right? They never show you a hag on their websites do they? There's no way this old biddy is touching me"! I said to the hag, "Well, there are other girls who do other types of massages right? I don't have to have a nuru massage. I would like to see everyone who is available". She replied, "Yes, there are 6 other girls, but they all have appointments. If you don't want to go with me then maybe you can come back later".
Now I'm thinking, "If there were 6 other girls who all had appointments, then why did the one acting as the hostess at the beginning tell me that the girl ([B]s[/B]) would present themselves for my choice decision? And then only this ugly old hag walks in"? Well fuck this noise! I'm out of here! Where have all the pretty girls gone? Where are they now? Especially the ones who were butt fucking for cash? COVID hit and they all left and they mostly all never came back! This is grim! This is so grim! Look, if I lived in Berlin, I could find and establish my spots. But as a tourist with limited time and money, it's not cost effective to go running all over town trying out this place and that. That's why the FKKs were so great. If you came to Germany and stuck with the mainline FKKs, as long as you had some money, you were going to have a good time. Well, not anymore!
I took an Uber back to my hotel, then had a nice three course lunch at a nearby German restaurant (I'll spare you the gritty details this time LOL). As I rode in the Uber, I took note that the sun had disappeared in Berlin again. Even that simple pleasure proved to be fleeting. Three days down in the German capital. One more to go. I hope it's not three strikes and you're out!
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[QUOTE=TheCane;3032053]So, today I decided to try a massage place here in Berlin.[/QUOTE]Ninja suggested Sensual only because famously "flexible".
Still think Ginas-Tango-Rosa bordello in Steglitz pretty safe bet, with chance to view parade first. [URL]https://ginas-tango-rosa.de/heute/[/URL]
If you want better massage with slight chance of extras depending on girl and mood, but attractive staff with decent skills, try.
1. [URL]paris-no5.de[/URL]
2. [URL]ameliya.de[/URL]
Angelhands-Spa, Wolke7, Idyll can be ok but notch below.
Just check availability and call first, after look at websites.
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Friends any cheap prices for 20-30 Euros or even cheap prices in Frankfurt or anywhere in Germany for a quick Release?
Thanks in advance.
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[QUOTE=TheCane;3032053]So, today I decided to try a massage place here in Berlin. Initially, I was going to sample another bordello, but they really aren't my thing, and never have been. But, massages are, and I routinely make them a part of the deal at the FKKs. I did some online research, starting with the massage parlors that Nooky Ninja suggested, and was close to settling on Sensual Massage. But when I started to read the reviews, I found a lot of bad ones! Girls who don't know what they're doing and really shouldn't be there, a "massage" that was so poor it was a ripoff, stolen money, etc. With this, I decided to strike Sensual Massage and take a chance on an establishment I read about that seemed to have mostly good reviews overtime. That would be Ekstasse Massage.
[/QUOTE]Berlin has more massage places than MOST of the German cities. Maria's massage in Mitte can have a good lineup. 6's 7's and a occasoinal 8. Most with extras.
There are 2 famous Tantra places. Now I'm familiar with Tantra sex / massage for the US, and it doesn't automatically mean only HJ, but in Germany it 'seems' that's the formal definition. Why am I not surprised the Germans would have formal definitions even for sex acts. But that said, the two massage places that specialize in tantra has high marks for beautiful girls. Faces are shown on the websites. Lusthaus has reviews. Possibly too late to save your trip. But that's my info.
And I really like your food reviews. You know on Lusthaus, even if the guys had one amazing acrobatic sex with dozens of extras, they often report on the food and the choices.
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Mia, brunette young MILF from east of the Danube
To contribute something more positive:
Satisfying meeting with Mia in a small hotel in Charlottenburg. She ist a travelling profi, contact via a telephone agent. Pictures are correct, Mia speaks english well. She lacks a bit at own initiative, but responds very well to your wishes and intentions. She really takes care of you. Price was 120 E / h + decent extras on offer. I was satisfied. Repetition planned before she leaves.
[URL]https://www.omello.de/modelle/004517.php[/URL]
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[QUOTE=Tintin1;3032283]Berlin has more massage places than MOST of the German cities. Maria's massage in Mitte can have a good lineup. 6's 7's and a occasoinal 8. Most with extras.
There are 2 famous Tantra places. Now I'm familiar with Tantra sex / massage for the US, and it doesn't automatically mean only HJ, but in Germany it 'seems' that's the formal definition. Why am I not surprised the Germans would have formal definitions even for sex acts. But that said, the two massage places that specialize in tantra has high marks for beautiful girls. Faces are shown on the websites. Lusthaus has reviews. Possibly too late to save your trip. But that's my info.
And I really like your food reviews. You know on Lusthaus, even if the guys had one amazing acrobatic sex with dozens of extras, they often report on the food and the choices.[/QUOTE]Which are the two famous tantra places you mention here? I have been to Journeywiyhin and Khashima. The latter I think has an edge over the former in terms of appearance and comfort. But in my experience it's a random draw with which lady you end up with. Interested to hear our experience.
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[QUOTE=Leroy1969;3031141]I have had 3 bordello experiences. Only one was actually good, and that was down at GTR. GTR is a bit of a journey.
In 2019 I went to Maison the'envie. It was near where I was staying. I had an awful experience.
This trip Club Amar was near me. My experience there was laughable.
What bordellos do you recommend? What ladies?
I am 2 for 2 with escorts from Kauf Mich. These 2 ladies were awesome.
I had an amazing experience down on beblingen, at Sakura FKK. I will try Artemis next time I am in Berlin.
I have had enough bad experiences, that I am kind of gun shy about anyone, or anywhere that is not reviewed.[/QUOTE]Tbh when place are giving bad experience and asking 250 EU for it its your duty to never go back there anymore. Price are so high in Germany I don't thing I will have the guts to travel there someday.
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Asking Help
Ninja get some PMs about "good" options in Berlin. Good excuse to talk about recommendations & help. Options covered here since years, and Charlie123 report "The Berlin Sex Scene" still best single overview ever on main Germany thread, at bottom. A few clubs and bordellos closed but still most useful starting point.
Beyond this, no way around doing homework. Visit websites, call ahead to check available on given day and time (almost all have enough English in house). Most up to date info on local "lusthaus" website, mostly in German. This is Bible here. Can be translated. Worth look.
Beyond this, recommendations almost useless. Everything is chemistry and taste. Everything. What work for Ninja may not for other (or other way around).
Scene is changing here: getting more expensive, some classic apartments closing, AI photos, etc. Means more work upfront.
For those asking help. Best to ask here and be specific: what kind of experience, age, look, cost, etc. And let community weigh in. Example, Ginas Tango Rosa best for MILFs and more choices, moderate prices. New Herenhaus, more expensive, S&M offered, a little younger. Royal, among youngest and most expensive. But only vague general. Indies e. G. On BerlinIntim increasingly young, Latina or EE. Kaufmich or Omello or Erotik Markt. Age and origin all over the place. Piefke reports on eastern scene very useful.
But in end, only taste and chemistry matter (within budget) and advice somewhat useless. No way around homework preparation.
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[QUOTE=NookyNinja;3034783]Ninja get some PMs about "good" options in Berlin. Good excuse to talk about recommendations & help. Options covered here since years, and Charlie123 report "The Berlin Sex Scene" still best single overview ever on main Germany thread, at bottom. A few clubs and bordellos closed but still most useful starting point.
Beyond this, no way around doing homework. Visit websites, call ahead to check available on given day and time (almost all have enough English in house). Most up to date info on local "Lusthaus" website, mostly in German. This is Bible here. Can be translated. Worth look.
But in end, only taste and chemistry matter (within budget) and advice somewhat useless. No way around homework preparation.[/QUOTE]There are kind of 3 tiers of apartment bordellos. Higher, and middle tier mentioned last post. Could also include Prestige (Halensee). But lines get blurry going downmarket (Monas, Aston, Aller45, Stella, Maria Rot, Europasalon, Flair). Even so, diamonds in the rough sometimes. BerlinIntim has list (but not up to date) [URL]https://www.berlinintim.de/clubs-bordelle-berlin.html[/URL] . Also Rotlicht. But always good to verify pictures-Yandex (maybe best) or Google Image/Lens. More work but save lots of wasted time running around.
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2 nights in Berlin. Non FKK report
I'm a massage guy at heart. A great 90 minute sex massage with someone who really knows their way around a boy and his organs is better than almost anything (Cane, yes, I am sinning, better even than greek).
I usually stop by Maria's massage, do a line up and then book someone. Sometimes for later in the day. This time I was intrigued by Diane on the website, and even though she's glammed up, she was still pretty attractive in real life. Ukrainian, said she's been there 3 weeks, and it shows. Tall slender and easy to communicate. The usual. +50 for covered French. She said that she didn't offer FO (natural french), and that no one in the club did. This I personally know is false, but maybe it's the new company line, or makes you not ask for someone else. She also said Greek is not available. I know it's not an "immediate" option, but again, over the years, I've had a few offer just about everything except AO, so maybe with repeat business comes rewards.
The massage was low grade professional swedish. Someone who has taken a class or two. The erotic component was missing. The Body-to-Body was perfunctory. Like an iceberg lettuce salad with frozen tomatoes. The flip came, the french workmanlike, the finish competent. Maybe if she stays in a couple months she'll be better, I'll never know cause I wouldn't chose her again BUT I like Maria's Professional, appointments on time, rooms clean, and location is great for me. Next night would be Artemis, so thankfully this held me over for the night.
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Massage and a Butt Fuck!
[QUOTE=Tintin1;3036071]I'm a massage guy at heart. A great 90 minute sex massage with someone who really knows their way around a boy and his organs is better than almost anything (Cane, yes, I am sinning, better even than greek).[/QUOTE]If you read my reports, then you know I'm also very much into massage and try to work that into every session, and even carry my own massage oils with me for use. Massage first. Then butt fuck!
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[QUOTE=TheCane;3036072]If you read my reports, then you know I'm also very much into massage and try to work that into every session, and even carry my own massage oils with me for use. Massage first. Then butt fuck![/QUOTE]I like you more and more all the time. Not enough to carry your massage oils. But close.
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Berlin or Lisbon?
Hey gents, sorry for the intrusion. I'm planning a trip to Europe for the first time and was thinking about Berlin or Lisbon. So far from what I've read here the FKKs are the place to go with some girls bringing in a mix of GFE and PSE. I've seen the same so far in the Lisbon thread with a lot of girls also offering anal. To gents that have been in both Berlin and Lisbon, what would the the best place to go to for a first timer to Europe? Would definitely be willing to help out with anything for Dubai.
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Dis or Dat
[QUOTE=Zeyto;3036116]Hey gents, sorry for the intrusion. I'm planning a trip to Europe for the first time and was thinking about Berlin or Lisbon. So far from what I've read here the FKKs are the place to go with some girls bringing in a mix of GFE and PSE. I've seen the same so far in the Lisbon thread with a lot of girls also offering anal. To gents that have been in both Berlin and Lisbon, what would the the best place to go to for a first timer to Europe? [/QUOTE]"Sorry for intrusion", to thread designed to give info? Whole post a bit odd, odder still as you seem experienced.
Difficult to compare 2 completely different cities, different vibes, different cultures. Climate / season a big deal as Nov-Feb Berlin pretty dark and cold, but Lisbon also rainy. Berlin is flat, trams don't use cables; we specialize in bridges cracking.
Girls same really everywhere. GFE vs PSE everywhere. Good experiences shitty experiences everywhere. Anal everywhere (even Ninja has anus). Berlin for sure more choices, more tolerant / open sex culture as main tradition, possibly slightly cheaper with sheer number of options. "FKK the place to go"-maybe you read their website. Reality very mixed-mostly fuck factories. Worth one time visit just to see but must stay calm and go slow as much rip-off also. Most Berlin locals never go. Much better in apartments or indies, but more work. No idea when you plan travel. Lots of EEur girls gone mid Dec-mid Jan. Good luck.
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Berlin business-trip footnote: the 90-minute slot I should've spent on e-mail
Spent the past seven nights in Berlin for a sprint-closing workshop. By Thursday my neck was a knot and my calendar had one blank rectangle after 8 pm, so I walked over to Maria's (Mitte, five minutes from the hotel).
Chose one from the online roster—Polish, here six weeks, long swimmer's build, chatty English. Tip sheet: +€50 for covered BJ, no uncovered, no Greek, "not even for regulars" (her words, not mine).
The table work felt like the demo track at a spa seminar: every stroke had been practised on a mannequin. Body slide was polite, like two strangers squeezing past each other on a tram. Flip came, mouthwork tidy but clock-watching; finish more accountant than artist. Rooms still smell of disinfectant and lavender, front desk punctual, location perfect—so Maria's keeps its utility-belt status, but Polish is already buried in the contact list under "meh."
Spent Friday night at Artemis instead; that report's happier and twice as long.
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Bresilian pornstar escort in Berlin
I met this week a famous 21 years old pornstar escort from Sao Paulo Brazil in Berlin. She was on tour and I don't regret it at all! I did a reat movie with her for extra money! She was so lovely and very friendly. I just arrived in the room and she kissed me like if I was her boyfriend with deep french kisses, I started to make a nice movie with my phone, she played a lot with me for the movie it was great! I liked her tits and suck all her boy, then I licked and fuck her pussy with my fingers during at least 15 min. She love it! Than she asked me to put a condom but unfortunately when I put a condom I'm not horny. I tried to fuck her with the condom but impossible! I asked her if I can take off the condom and the she was OK! But she asked me to not come inside her pussy which I respect of course. We fuck together bareback during maybe 30 min, it was really great, many positions, doggy, missionary,. I was so horny, she asked me to come but impossible for me! In fact I took a kamagra before the meeting so I was horny all the time! Then she decided to masturbate and suck my dick few minutes and I finally came inside her mouth and she swallow it! It was a great time with her. Now we chat often by whasapp. She proposed me to come back fuck her with her girlfriend who stay with her in Berlin. I asked her if I can fuk her girlfriend bareback and she told me she s going to ask her and let me know. We'll see.
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Re: Bresilian pornstar escort in Berlin
[QUOTE=Gilolo;3040720]I met this week a famous 21 years old pornstar escort from Sao Paulo Brazil in Berlin.
but unfortunately when I put a condom I'm not horny.
In fact I took a kamagra before the meeting so I was horny all the time! [/QUOTE]Spot the error!
IMHO as a report it is not usable: where is name, contact / advert, price?
Please try again! You can do better. Thank you, sire!
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Lina, voluptuous brunette MILF from the Baltics
Triggered by her advert at Omello I visited Lina.
[URL]https://www.omello.de/modelle/005741.php[/URL]
Pictures are correct and recent, nothing hidden or changed. Contact with Operator. She works in a slightly rundown hotel near Messe, tiny room is clean. Lina speaks sufficient english. She is a genuine friendly Lady with a good sensual service. No extra ordinary sport, but good massage, french and sex, kisses on top. I felt really spoilt by her. Good AST, no rush, but no time overrun.
Complete damage was 140 E / h, 80/30 min possible. Repetition planned.
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Bars high end and street walkers
Any high end bars for big game and very elegant escorts like in Dubai?
And please advise if there's an area with street walkers or red light district?
Cheers.
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High End to Dead End
[QUOTE=Boofer;3048983]Any high end bars for big game and very elegant escorts like in Dubai?[/QUOTE]No. Maybe hit and miss in 5 star hotels but not organized.
[QUOTE]Please advise if there's an area with street walkers or red light district?[/QUOTE]More expensive but tourist rip off zone: Oranienburgerstrasse near same name S Bahn.
Scary and scuzzy: Ltzowstrasse near Potsdammerstrasse.
Science question. What kind of girls walking on these icey streets in -2 to -15 weather?
Plan see You can have warm comfortable walk inside at Artemis with 50-100 girls.
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Please suggest options
Hello.
I will be in Berlin for business trip in last week February. Mostly I will be busy but I will be getting one weekend free. Could you please suggest me some quick and low efforts options to have fun.
I will be coming first time to Berlin and that too in winters. Please suggest any good brothels or club where I can go or any website.
Thanks.
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Thanks
Thanks. Answers make sense. I remember going to a club 10 years ago where it was like a cinema and strippers gave BJs in the stalls.
See you in FKK Artemis. But I'm sure there are more private cabarets. If you can help, that would be great. More like a bar setup.
Thanks.
[QUOTE=NookyNinja;3049185]No. Maybe hit and miss in 5 star hotels but not organized.
More expensive but tourist rip off zone: Oranienburgerstrasse near same name S Bahn.
Scary and scuzzy: Ltzowstrasse near Potsdammerstrasse.
Science question. What kind of girls walking on these icey streets in -2 to -15 weather?
Plan see You can have warm comfortable walk inside at Artemis with 50-100 girls.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Boofer;3049429]Thanks. Answers make sense. I remember going to a club 10 years ago where it was like a cinema and strippers gave BJs in the stalls.
See you in FKK Artemis. But I'm sure there are more private cabarets. If you can help, that would be great. More like a bar setup.
Thanks.[/QUOTE]For locals, Artemis mostly tourist trap, high volume factory. Worth look one time for sure. Very different, plan for few hours, pool, sauna, food, multi sessions etc. It has big circular bar. Quiet during the day. Not quiet at all nights. See ISG thread. But Ninja never go since like 10 years.
Cabarets / Bars. A few small but most closed post Covid. Bordello Royal upscale sometimes has this at night. Call.
Most locals go to indies, or private bordellos.
The Bible on Berlin remains here. Worth read: [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4033-The-Berlin-Sex-Scene.-A-Beginner-s-Guide[/URL].
At M Jack. Read this also.
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[QUOTE=Boofer;3049429]I remember going to a club 10 years ago where it was like a cinema and strippers gave BJs in the stalls.[/QUOTE]When mentioning cinema, you probably mean the Berlin 'sexkinos' like "Alte Manier" in Wedding. Several of them closed since COVID. 1-2 are still open, but not sure.
They were pretty run-down establishments, where there is usually no bar and service is provided directly in the cinema (including spectators) or in back rooms.
You have to like it or avoid it.
I think, the one near Mierendorff place is still working. But I do not know for sure.
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Maria's Massage. Tanja
Usual visit at Maria' massage. Tanja's details are listed on the link below. I called to ask who was working, decided it was better to book than do a drive by, although last trip I did the line up and went with someone I never would have picked from the online images.
One hour with up charge for safe oral and deep throat. Covered BJ was as good as it can get. Decent b2 b and nice Spanish. Honestly if there weren't a dozen other ladies to try all over Berlin, including a handful at Maria' I'd go back. The covered BJ is typically the deal breaker. If I went back I'd just stick with the basic HJ ending or Spanish. The massage was mostly light. Not as erotic than my recent review in the Munich forum, but then Tanja was way more attractive. She made sure to continue the massage after as there was a bit of time left. I appreciate ladies who understand I could have booked 30 or 45 minutes so I want the whole hour!
She's good looking. You'd definitely look over at her in a bar. Maybe not elbow your friends but at least look [URL]https://www.mariamassagen.de/masseurin-tanja-66048.html[/URL].
I'm a fan of the joint, both the location and the price makes it convenient to stop by on any trip to the city. That's saying a lot given how many massage places there are. Also the website shows what additional services each lady offers, including full sex. One thing to note, when I entered the room there was a printed sheet that had the price per "extra". Not sure if that's new, or there are a few ladies who have language issue. In any event, it does make you feel you're not being taken advantage of.
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[QUOTE=Tintin1;3049659]Usual visit at Maria' massage. Tanja's details are listed on the link below. I called to ask who was working, decided it was better to book than do a drive by, although last trip I did the line up and went with someone I never would have picked from the online images.
One hour with up charge for safe oral and deep throat. Covered BJ was as good as it can get. Decent b2 b and nice Spanish. Honestly if there weren't a dozen other ladies to try all over Berlin, including a handful at Maria' I'd go back. The covered BJ is typically the deal breaker. If I went back I'd just stick with the basic HJ ending or Spanish. The massage was mostly light. Not as erotic than my recent review in the Munich forum, but then Tanja was way more attractive. She made sure to continue the massage after as there was a bit of time left. I appreciate ladies who understand I could have booked 30 or 45 minutes so I want the whole hour!
She's good looking. You'd definitely look over at her in a bar. Maybe not elbow your friends but at least look [URL]https://www.mariamassagen.de/masseurin-tanja-66048.html[/URL].
I'm a fan of the joint, both the location and the price makes it convenient to stop by on any trip to the city. That's saying a lot given how many massage places there are. Also the website shows what additional services each lady offers, including full sex. One thing to note, when I entered the room there was a printed sheet that had the price per "extra". Not sure if that's new, or there are a few ladies who have language issue. In any event, it does make you feel you're not being taken advantage of.[/QUOTE]Reading your post reminds me of my first European erotic massage in Berlin during my trip in late spring 2017. It was at an establishment called Secret of Berlin, located in the Charlottenburg borough. I had a session with a hot Polish brunette named Vivienne, who had big natural breasts. I opted for a half-hour session. After a quick shower and lying down, she entered the room, disrobed, and immediately started a body-to-body massage with oil on my back. There was no oral, but she allowed touching all over (except for her pussy), and body kisses (I sucked her breasts) after I flipped over. She did a pussy slide as she slid around with her ass facing me before turning back and massaging my front with her front, finishing with a handjob. It was one of the hottest experiences I've ever had. Afterward, I took a shower and waited a little before she okayed me to leave. I had offered to shower together before the session, but she declined. She was a nice girl, though not too friendly—which is fine (and expected if you know girls from Central Europe). I do have to say the manager was bitchy. I admit I made some mistakes since it was my first time, and I apologized, but it didn't work for her. Oh well. Secret of Berlin closed down later that year, around fall, for unknown reasons. Vivienne offered private services for some time before she retired. Regarding extras like OWO, you have a better chance if you visit a brothel or escort girl.
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Dating site scene and safety
Hello seniors and fellow members.
I matched with a girl on dating site and we had some sexting and vibe check as well.
She wants to meet me in private at my hotel. I want to know if this is safe in Berlin.
Should I proceed or what kind of risks?
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[QUOTE=MJack;3049718]Hello seniors and fellow members.
I matched with a girl on dating site and we had some sexting and vibe check as well.
She wants to meet me in private at my hotel. I want to know if this is safe in Berlin.
Should I proceed or what kind of risks?[/QUOTE]If in your hotel, should not be too risky, but better to meet her first in lobby and hide your values and ID.
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Cabaret 2. 0
[QUOTE=Boofer;3049429]I'm sure there are more private cabarets. If you can help, that would be great. More like a bar setup.[/QUOTE]Some chatter on this in local site Lusthaus. CC.
[URL]http://www.kumpelnest3000.com/contact.html[/URL]
[URL]https://www.newton-bar.de/[/URL]
Also Insomnia club has bar, right in front of some of the action. [URL]https://www.insomnia-berlin.de/index.html?lang=en[/URL].
Some very hit and miss in Waldorf Astoria hotel, maybe Hyatt. 4 decent places closed during/after Covid.
Don't know why this not more in Berlin culture. Maybe combination of economics, hassle, and just not enough demand since you can have sex here in 50+ places almost 24/7.
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[QUOTE=Tintin1;3049659]Usual visit at Maria' massage. Tanja's details are listed on the link below. I called to ask who was working, decided it was better to book than do a drive by, although last trip I did the line up and went with someone I never would have picked from the online images.
One hour with up charge for safe oral and deep throat. Covered BJ was as good as it can get. Decent b2 b and nice Spanish. Honestly if there weren't a dozen other ladies to try all over Berlin, including a handful at Maria' I'd go back. The covered BJ is typically the deal breaker. If I went back I'd just stick with the basic HJ ending or Spanish. The massage was mostly light. Not as erotic than my recent review in the Munich forum, but then Tanja was way more attractive. She made sure to continue the massage after as there was a bit of time left. I appreciate ladies who understand I could have booked 30 or 45 minutes so I want the whole hour!
She's good looking. You'd definitely look over at her in a bar. Maybe not elbow your friends but at least look [URL]https://www.mariamassagen.de/masseurin-tanja-66048.html[/URL]..[/QUOTE]Nice Report.
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Really?
[QUOTE=MJack;3049718]Hello seniors and fellow members.
I matched with a girl on dating site and we had some sexting and vibe check as well.
She wants to meet me in private at my hotel. I want to know if this is safe in Berlin.
Should I proceed or what kind of risks?[/QUOTE]So if a random person in a sex forum tells you yes do it its 100% safe you feel better? How can anyone judge this better than you? If you are not able to take care of yourself better not do it.
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[QUOTE=VorFreude;3051383]So if a random person in a sex forum tells you yes do it its 100% safe you feel better? How can anyone judge this better than you? If you are not able to take care of yourself better not do it.[/QUOTE]What ethnicity? Profiling helps.
Also why not meet in a nearby cafe and decide at that time.
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Hotel Visits
Sad how dead Berlin thread is that hotel visit safety a "thing" for comments. And "profiling"? Sorry it is 2026.
This goes on here 100+ times a day. Without problems. No need for spycraft. Berlin very safe. You have name of agency if necessary. Not an issue.
But what is issue is chemistry. Ninja never do take out as want to feel attraction vibe both ways first without committing. So simple solution. Meet in reception lobby first. You can say hotel requires guests to do if asked. If you decide something off, you can just leave. Girl might ask for something for taxi and time spent-but 50 instead of 150-300.
Maybe people make actual reports of sex experiences now?? If you look at locals Lusthaus CC threads, lots to do.
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Brothel Review
So this post is for my friend, he has spent years in the Porn Industry and is a fan of brothels.
He lives in Budapest but is currently in Berlin, and he just rated the Club King George as the Worst Brothel he has ever set foot in. The smell was horrible and the girls were low quality. On a scale of 1 to 10 he rates it as a negative 5.
He just walked out of the club which again 19:30 on a Friday isn't exactly prime time, but he immediately face timed me to laugh and share his experience. Hopefully, you locals have much better clubs you recommend.
I was pretty amused by his call and his review. I hope everyone has a good weekend.
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[QUOTE=JohnBravo83;3056395]My friend---He lives in Budapest but is currently in Berlin, and he just rated the Club King George as the Worst Brothel he has ever set foot in. The smell was horrible and the girls were low quality. On a scale of 1 to 10 he rates it as a negative 5.[/QUOTE]Why does Forum exist? Why does it have search box on top right? Oh yea:
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?668-Berlin&p=2868442&viewfull=1[/URL]#post2868442.
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Not to argue.
[QUOTE=NookyNinja;3056484]Why does Forum exist? Why does it have search box on top right? Oh yea:
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?668-Berlin&p=2868442&viewfull=1[/URL]#post2868442.[/QUOTE]As I said in my post, I was posting for my friend, after the fact. Surely you didn't expect me to read 23 pages of the forum or to search for something after my friend had a similar experience to yours. He was guided there apparently by Gemini AI. So it seems in the past 3 years it has not improved in the slightest. But that is what this forum is for correct to share experiences, my friend asked me to post because he knows I am on the forum.
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[QUOTE=JohnBravo83;3056497]As I said in my post, I was posting for my friend, after the fact. Surely you didn't expect me to read 23 pages of the forum or to search for something after my friend had a similar experience to yours. [/QUOTE]No of course not-point was / is use search in Forum vs. Idiotic AI engines. That would take 10-20 seconds.
So Ninja type in Gemini: "Show reviews of King George Club Berlin" and like magic, comes:
King George Club (Schneberg).
This is the most established "King George" in Berlin, but it isn't your average cocktail bar. It is a nightclub and erotic lounge / brothel located in Schneberg.
The Vibe: Retro, red-light district aesthetic with VIP areas, a dance floor, and a "gentleman's club" atmosphere.
The Crowd: Primarily men looking for adult entertainment.
Pricing: Entry is typically free, but they often have a drink flat-rate or minimum (e. G. , around 4050 for all-inclusive drinks depending on the day).
Not only useless -but wrong. There is 10 Eur entrance fee, at least on weekends.
My man Claude (Anthropic) at least gets it right:
Overview: It holds a 2. 9 out of 5 rating based on 74 reviews Top Rated Online and is described as an adult entertainment club specifically a brothel / strip club.
Pricing: Entry is 50 for unlimited alcohol or 10 per individual drink. Top Rated Online Negative reviewers frequently complain the drinks are heavily watered down.
Several reviewers warn the venue is a waste of money, describing it as dishonest and disappointing. Restaurant Guru.
Reviewers note that photos on the website are heavily outdated and do not reflect the actual staff present. Top Rated Online.
Complaints include a very limited number of performers, with pole bars reportedly unstaffed, and only two rooms available. Top Rated Online.
One reviewer described paying 110 upfront, finding the experience unsatisfactory, and only receiving a partial refund of 60.
The interior is described as intimate with cozy rooms, comfortable seating, and mood lighting. Restaurant Guru.
The location is considered central and easily accessible for both locals and tourists. Restaurant Guru.
A small number of reviewers describe it as satisfying and good value, with one repeat visitor speaking highly of the experience.
Bottom Line: The majority of reviews are quite negative, with recurring themes of misleading advertising, overpriced and diluted drinks, and a gap between expectations and reality. It scores poorly on most review platforms, and many reviewers explicitly advise others to avoid it.
But Forum search quicker and easier.
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Seek advices for Berlin
Will get to the great city of Berlin for the first time this afternoon. Did some homework here, but still hoping to get some advices if possible. I will visit Artemis at least one time to try FKK (first trip to Germany). I am more like a brothel guy, and prefer to walk in, see the lineup, pick one girl, and do FS I am not really into a bar setting (buy drinks, etc.) when I go for FS as I just want to go straight to actions. I read the " 2018 Berlin bible" that Caligula and King George, or FS bordelles or laufhaus are probably most similar to what I prefer. I will stay in the southwest area of Berlin metro. Any recommendations in that area? I googled a little bit and there are Mona Roses, New Van Kampen Bordell, etc. That are not too far. Are these any good? Appreciate any advices. Will report my Berlin experiences afterwards. I can return the favor by sharing info for SE Asian countries, Japan, or some part of USA. Thanks in advance.
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A few months back.
[QUOTE=Fun2016;3058031]Will get to the great city of Berlin for the first time this afternoon. Did some homework here, but still hoping to get some advices if possible. I will visit Artemis at least one time to try FKK (first trip to Germany). I am more like a brothel guy, and prefer to walk in, see the lineup, pick one girl, and do FS I am not really into a bar setting (buy drinks, etc.) when I go for FS as I just want to go straight to actions. I read the " 2018 Berlin bible" that Caligula and King George, or FS bordelles or laufhaus are probably most similar to what I prefer. I will stay in the southwest area of Berlin metro. Any recommendations in that area? I googled a little bit and there are Mona Roses, New Van Kampen Bordell, etc. That are not too far. Are these any good? Appreciate any advices. Will report my Berlin experiences afterwards. I can return the favor by sharing info for SE Asian countries, Japan, or some part of USA. Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]A few months back there was a decent post by one of the senior guys who stopped at 2 or 3 brothels for the line up en route to Artemis (the fact he got to Artemis, indicates that the line ups didn't serve his particular tastes). But he mentions the set up. You can map his choices, but I seem to remember they were in the West of the city. These sorts of questions and even answers are pretty tough given we don't know if you like Fat girls, tall skinny, African, Ro, etc. And obviously, you could stop in at 3, and the girl of your dreams happens to be in a room. Anyway, look forward to your report.
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[QUOTE=Tintin1;3058076]A few months back there was a decent post by one of the senior guys who stopped at 2 or 3 brothels for the line up en route to Artemis (the fact he got to Artemis, indicates that the line ups didn't serve his particular tastes). But he mentions the set up. You can map his choices, but I seem to remember they were in the West of the city. These sorts of questions and even answers are pretty tough given we don't know if you like Fat girls, tall skinny, African, Ro, etc. And obviously, you could stop in at 3, and the girl of your dreams happens to be in a room. Anyway, look forward to your report.[/QUOTE]Thanks. From where I came from, there are lots of Asian girls, so I am mainly shooting for white girls in Berlin. Face is most important for me, as long as they are not fat or 40+ years old. I just did more reading and will try Aston first. If the lineup there is not interesting, I will probably walk to King George and see lineup there, LOL. Will see.
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[QUOTE=Fun2016;3058080]Thanks. From where I came from, there are lots of Asian girls, so I am mainly shooting for white girls in Berlin. Face is most important for me, as long as they are not fat or 40+ years old. I just did more reading and will try Aston first. If the lineup there is not interesting, I will probably walk to King George and see lineup there, LOL. Will see.[/QUOTE]King George awful. See reviews last week.
Aston. Cheap and dirty but depends on taste / chemistry.
Van Kampen -weird vibe.
By far, some better choices in West:
Ginas Tango Rosa -Steglitz -best all around value and choices.
Polnische Girls: [URL]sb98.info[/URL] close to van Kampen.
Royal Girls (expensive but good).
Herrenhaus.
Prestige-Halensee not far from Artemis.
Sensual Massage - lots of upgrade
Most have links here: [URL]https://www.berlinintim.de/bordelle-berlin.html[/URL]
Do home work and call ahead just to be sure girl you may like is there on hour/day. You may or may not reserve -Ninja always want to see and talk first. Website schedules not reliable.
Report back of your missions.
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[QUOTE=NookyNinja;3058196]King George awful. See reviews last week.
Aston. Cheap and dirty but depends on taste / chemistry.
Van Kampen -weird vibe.
By far, some better choices in West:
Ginas Tango Rosa -Steglitz -best all around value and choices.
Polnische Girls: [URL]sb98.info[/URL] close to van Kampen.
Royal Girls (expensive but good).
Herrenhaus.
Prestige-Halensee not far from Artemis.
Sensual Massage - lots of upgrade
Most have links here: [URL]https://www.berlinintim.de/bordelle-berlin.html[/URL]
Do home work and call ahead just to be sure girl you may like is there on hour/day. You may or may not reserve -Ninja always want to see and talk first. Website schedules not reliable.
Report back of your missions.[/QUOTE]Thanks. I will look into these options you recommended. I went to Aston yesterday. 4 girls were available, and 2 were doable, so I picked one Romanian. Probably mid 20's, pretty face, nice skin, not so good body shape, and so so service, but she got the job done (I selected 100 euros for 45 minutes). My first report haha.
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[QUOTE=NookyNinja;3058196]King George awful. See reviews last week.
Sensual Massage - lots of upgrade
Most have links here: [URL]https://www.berlinintim.de/bordelle-berlin.html[/URL]
Do home work and call ahead just to be sure girl you may like is there on hour/day. You may or may not reserve -Ninja always want to see and talk first. Website schedules not reliable.
Report back of your missions.[/QUOTE]Which Massage place are you mentioning has lots of upgrades or is this just the category.
I find Maria's massage has upgrades and at least they have info on each lady if she offers GV. Also noticed they now have one of the first Asian ladies on their website. They do have a wide range of nationalities. Very few of the ladies upgrade to natural french. By the way.
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[QUOTE=Fun2016;3058205]Thanks. I will look into these options you recommended. I went to Aston yesterday. 4 girls were available, and 2 were doable, so I picked one Romanian. Probably mid 20's, pretty face, nice skin, not so good body shape, and so so service, but she got the job done (I selected 100 euros for 45 minutes). My first report haha.[/QUOTE][URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4012-Berlin-Aller45-Aston-Stella&p=3058694&viewfull=1#post3058694[/URL]
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Kashima. De Berlin
Has anyone ever visited them. It's on my bucket list for some reason. I mean "I KNOW" my reason, but with all the places in Berlin, and how often I visit, I'm just surprised I never pull the trigger.
Any insights into the place? Any recommendations for any of the tantric masterettes.
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[QUOTE=Tintin1;3058955]Has anyone ever visited them. [/QUOTE]Yes -forget who. Massage ok, but really place is much "spin". Ambiance nice, etc. But have as good massage for less at many. Ambiance at Paris or NGel almost the same.
Kashima 10 yrs ago was better-think it was sold to new management.
All really hit or miss. Ameliya on Bliss Str current favorite, esp Dana -wow on all levels.
Post below: "Sensual Massage" is name of place. Ambiance not strong point; flexibility. Primus Relax same.
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Berlin Versus Other Cities & Regions
I've been to Berlin a few times in the last 5-10 years and have tried pretty much everything the city has to offer for consenting adult activities. I even go back to the days pre-COVID of Airport Girls. I admit I never went to Artemis because I had previously been to numerous other FKKs and Partytreffs in Germany and wanted to try things that were uniquely "Berlin". To say I was disappointed is an understatement. As noted earlier, I tried Airport Girls and King George. There was also one other similar establishment open in those days. For the most part, these were flat-rate Partytreff-like places. Perhaps things changed after the 2017 condom law? I know it killed the PT industry in other cities. I went out to check out the Kurfrstendamm stroll. It was definitely high-risk in terms of trannies and probable STIs. I decided to escape inside the porno theater and one of the girls followed me inside. I think I finally lost her when I went upstairs to the sex shop. There was also a nightly gangbang operation (Ani Porsche?) where I went one night. The fee was reasonable, but the other people were way out of shape 50-somethings. We all did our thing in the same room on the same mattress. So, perhaps Artemis and agency or indi girls are actually the only shows in town?
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[QUOTE=Max#01;3059106]I've been to Berlin a few times in the last 5-10 years and have tried pretty much everything the city has to offer for consenting adult activities. ...So, perhaps Artemis and agency or indi girls are actually the only shows in town?[/QUOTE]And the 50 small apartment bordellos?
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Disappointing
[QUOTE=Max#01;3059106]I've been to Berlin a few times in the last 5-10 years and have tried pretty much everything the city has to offer for consenting adult activities. I even go back to the days pre-COVID of Airport Girls. I admit I never went to Artemis because I had previously been to numerous other FKKs and Partytreffs in Germany and wanted to try things that were uniquely "Berlin". To say I was disappointed is an understatement. As noted earlier, I tried Airport Girls and King George. There was also one other similar establishment open in those days. For the most part, these were flat-rate Partytreff-like places. Perhaps things changed after the 2017 condom law? I know it killed the PT industry in other cities. I went out to check out the Kurfrstendamm stroll. It was definitely high-risk in terms of trannies and probable STIs. I decided to escape inside the porno theater and one of the girls followed me inside. I think I finally lost her when I went upstairs to the sex shop. There was also a nightly gangbang operation (Ani Porsche?) where I went one night. The fee was reasonable, but the other people were way out of shape 50-somethings. We all did our thing in the same room on the same mattress. So, perhaps Artemis and agency or indi girls are actually the only shows in town?[/QUOTE]I was in Berlin for a few days last October, and I too found the scene to be extremely disappointing. It's the kind of place where you really need the time to establish your marks and find the right approach that works for you. Definitely no good for a tourist type of monger who doesn't have a lot of time to work the system. I ended up right back at Artemis, which used to be one of my favorite FKKs in Germany. Artemis is still one of the best FKK clubs in Germany. But, even it wasn't as good as it used to be pre-COVID in terms of the talent (and it's gotten to be one of the priciest clubs too with a high admission fee). The same can be said about the entire FKK industry throughout Germany. It's simply not as good a deal all around. I keep hope alive that time and change will bring about better outcomes.
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[QUOTE=TheCane;3059208]I was in Berlin for a few days last October, and I too found the scene to be extremely disappointing. It's the kind of place where you really need the time to establish your marks and find the right approach that works for you. Definitely no good for a tourist type of monger who doesn't have a lot of time to work the system. I ended up right back at Artemis, which used to be one of my favorite FKKs in Germany. Artemis is still one of the best FKK clubs in Germany. But, even it wasn't as good as it used to be pre-COVID in terms of the talent (and it's gotten to be one of the priciest clubs too with a high admission fee). The same can be said about the entire FKK industry throughout Germany. It's simply not as good a deal all around. I keep hope alive that time and change will bring about better outcomes.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=NookyNinja;3059195]And the 50 small apartment bordellos?[/QUOTE]
Berlin is huge, there is something for everyone. But I second Cane's comment about research, at least some research. There was a post last year when a senior member who stopped at the two well known bordellos near Artemis. He found the line up wanting in both quantity and looks and continued on to Artemis. On the other hand, if one of the girls had been his type, the entire tone of the review would have been overwhelmingly positive!
I've been going to Maria's massage for a few years, most times with exceptional results, a few "near misses" but I almost never leave it to line up but chose in advance. As I leave I ask if there are any girls availabe to PRE screen for next visit. Recently thanks to Nooky's posts, in this forum, I've picked up a few more places, a few names. It's not hard work, but it requires you to stay with this planning. If you are going once and then not for another year or two, Artemis is still best, and Sharks maybe in Frankfurt is safer but looking back on even my bad visits to cities, I've gotten enough Pussy and enough stories that it's almost always worth it!
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[QUOTE=Tintin1;3059269]Berlin is huge, there is something for everyone. But I second Cane's comment about research, at least some research. There was a post last year when a senior member who stopped at the two well known bordellos near Artemis. He found the line up wanting in both quantity and looks and continued on to Artemis. On the other hand, if one of the girls had been his type, the entire tone of the review would have been overwhelmingly positive!
I've been going to Maria's massage for a few years, most times with exceptional results, a few "near misses" but I almost never leave it to line up but chose in advance. As I leave I ask if there are any girls availabe to PRE screen for next visit. Recently thanks to Nooky's posts, in this forum, I've picked up a few more places, a few names. It's not hard work, but it requires you to stay with this planning. If you are going once and then not for another year or two, Artemis is still best, and Sharks maybe in Frankfurt is safer but looking back on even my bad visits to cities, I've gotten enough Pussy and enough stories that it's almost always worth it![/QUOTE]I should state that my lens through which I view Belin is based on my experiences in the USA. Airport Girls, even on a bad day, is better than most anything else I can do here at home. Sharks or Artemis, or even the small FKKs like Dietzenbach, are paradise. As we have noted, Berlin is different, and, when compared to the rest that Germany has to offer, not in a good way.
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[QUOTE=Max#01;3059374]Berlin is different, and, when compared to the rest that Germany has to offer, not in a good way.[/QUOTE]
This all very subjective. No question Covid knocked things for a loop-but everywhere. Lot of girls left, inflation (everywhere) put up prices. Street scene, S&M, AO etc. not Ninja taste so cannot comment (though there is plenty of it if you search).
Greater Frankfurt / Darmstadt with 6 FKKs relatively near by has supply-quality subjective. But Berlin has maybe 50 private apartment bordellos, and lots of indies, much better value, Berlin much cheaper and more interesting city, Artemis bigger than most FRA FKKS. If you want sex 5+ times per day, FKK has advantage.
But, the factory throughput / mass tourist thing /being number 10 on the day/ often weird drug / gang vibes in FKK put Ninja off. Berlin has advantages: hundreds of local girls, UA or RO or RU girls who seem to enjoy just few good sessions (and price still better than Hamburg or Muenchen or Duesseldorf; excellent public transport, bicycles, Bolt cars everywhere. You just need little thinking and planning; CoMaps on phone, BVG website to plan public transport (in English), and a few confirmation phone calls. Pretty easy. Lots of info in this thread.
And if this puts off some tourists, more for rest of us. Like The Dude, we abide.
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[QUOTE=NookyNinja;3059693]This all very subjective. No question Covid knocked things for a loop-but everywhere. Lot of girls left, inflation (everywhere) put up prices. Street scene, S&M, AO etc. not Ninja taste so cannot comment (though there is plenty of it if you search).
Greater Frankfurt / Darmstadt with 6 FKKs relatively near by has supply-quality subjective. But Berlin has maybe 50 private apartment bordellos, and lots of indies, much better value, Berlin much cheaper and more interesting city, Artemis bigger than most FRA FKKS. If you want sex 5+ times per day, FKK has advantage.
[/QUOTE]If I was going to just sit in FKKs then Frankfurt and NRW. If I was looking to fill my days with some variety then I'm all in for Berlin and Vienna. I do find Sharks best value, Vienna second (aside from GT) but nothing tops the variety and the pure lust if you can find the special Berlin German lady. Wirklich geil!
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Is Berlin Kaput?
Sounds like Berlin never recovered after COVID. The FKK's like Oase have gone way up in price and still full of grasping Romanian sharks.
I will miss Van Kampen in Wilmersdorf, an old fashioned but stylish Bordello and parties, such as Annies next to Gneisenaustraße you-Bahn. So many good times. A very pretty and smart Hamburg girl got to know me, we lunched at KaDeWe and had some wild orgies, roaming around naked with sucking and fucking everywhere, having an Underberg or coffee, putting on Kraftwek or New Order, paradise. In summer we made it in the Tiergarten, she even got into a Nazi uniform, naturally revealing shirt, with fishnets and heels, legs high in the air, telling me to fuck with my American pepperoni as men sat around slack jawed watching this unfold in the center of Berlin.
Berlin will always be special.
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[QUOTE=PahllusMaximus;3060221]Sounds like Berlin never recovered after COVID. The FKK's like Oase have gone way up in price and still full of grasping Romanian sharks.
I will miss Van Kampen in Wilmersdorf, an old fashioned but stylish Bordello and parties, such as Annies next to Gneisenaustrae you-Bahn. So many good times. A very pretty and smart Hamburg girl got to know me, we lunched at KaDeWe and had some wild orgies, roaming around naked with sucking and fucking everywhere, having an Underberg or coffee, putting on Kraftwek or New Order, paradise. In summer we made it in the Tiergarten, she even got into a Nazi uniform, naturally revealing shirt, with fishnets and heels, legs high in the air, telling me to fuck with my American pepperoni as men sat around slack jawed watching this unfold in the center of Berlin.
Berlin will always be special.[/QUOTE]At the risk of arguing beauty. I have STILL had a few ladies at Artemis that would rank (for me) as top 10 anyclub in the German speaking whoring realm. My last trip was fantastic. But even at it's best, it could not compete with NRW and Frankfurt (Hessen) as knee deep in FKKs, or is that balls deep? We discuss the clubs but if you don't love Ro's and Bulg's then the entire Country is less spectacular than pre Covid. Luckily for us there is Spain / Portugal and all of Latin and South America. Or Thailand. Still I think compared with what I pay across the USA It's still a pretty decent trip. I'm there 3 days this month and I have to chose between several options. Some days I can barely find a girl to see in San Fran.
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[QUOTE=PahllusMaximus;3060221]Sounds like Berlin never recovered after COVID[/QUOTE]Of course it did. Just different.
[QUOTE]she even got into a Nazi uniform, naturally revealing shirt, with fishnets and heels, legs high in the air, telling me to fuck with my American pepperoni as men sat around slack jawed watching this unfold in the center of Berlin[/QUOTE]This goes on pretty much every day here. But are you sure she was not Herman Goering?
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Tried 2 massages here. Primus & Angelhands.
Primus was OK, definitely not the girl that was on the site. Slightly plump and friendly. Nuru with happy ending 6/10.
Angelhands was incredible. The girl was the same as the one in the site and tall and amazing ass, clearly knew what she was using and if I had an extra day would gone to her again. She came out wearing leotard and had Spanish massage with her. 10/10 amazing experience.
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Berlin is a great city. It has everything. Artemis I haven't been to for a long time (I think a decade) but I will still definitely visit it next time I am in Berlin. When I do go to Berlin I tend to stay for a week as it has so much culturally to do in addition to brothels and bordellos.
It had a fantastic escort scene too before. - but I don't know what it is like now. I have never visited one of Berlin's famous brothels but I believe many of them are now closed (ever since Covid?
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[QUOTE=MrKennedy22;3061861]Tried 2 massages here. Primus & Angelhands.
...[/QUOTE]Thank you for the report, MrKennedy22.
However, I think, it would have been better, when you tell the name of the girl.
Performance and photo is individual for each girl and not provided by the salon. The club provides the environment: Clean or shabby, but not the service.
Not all woman in primus are plumb, not all in Angelhands are amazing.
Woman at Primus are often rotating. Currently at Primus is Milana on the rooster, which is a fine blonde easteuropean MILF, which gives good massage and good athmosphere. She is a profi and tries upselling at the beginning. But basis service is already very fine. Pictures are older, now slightly shorter hair, but overall good looking. And she knows it. Whole damage was 120 E / h. I enjoyed the time with her.
[URL]https://primusrelaxmassage.de/masseuse/milana/[/URL]
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[QUOTE=Piefke;3061959]Thank you for the report, MrKennedy22.
However, I think, it would have been better, when you tell the name of the girl.
Performance and photo is individual for each girl and not provided by the salon. The club provides the environment: Clean or shabby, but not the service.
Not all woman in primus are plumb, not all in Angelhands are amazing.
Woman at Primus are often rotating. Currently at Primus is Milana on the rooster, which is a fine blonde easteuropean MILF, which gives good massage and good athmosphere. She is a profi and tries upselling at the beginning. But basis service is already very fine. Pictures are older, now slightly shorter hair, but overall good looking. And she knows it. Whole damage was 120 E / h. I enjoyed the time with her.
[URL]https://primusrelaxmassage.de/masseuse/milana/[/URL][/QUOTE]
Thanks to some great insight by a Berliner I met, I was able to see Dana at Amelya and Sophie / Sophia at Sensual Massage
Dana great massage no extras or touching.
And then Sophie / Sophia at Sensual Massage in the sw (Charlottenberg / Wilmersdoef) the photos are 100% her body. The massage was so amazing I went back again the next night. I'm now licking my way through Vienna and will do full details, links, etc when I'm back in the States.
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[QUOTE=Sebastiane;3061898]Berlin is a great city. It has everything. Artemis I haven't been to for a long time (I think a decade) but I will still definitely visit it next time I am in Berlin. When I do go to Berlin I tend to stay for a week as it has so much culturally to do in addition to brothels and bordellos.
It had a fantastic escort scene too before. - but I don't know what it is like now. I have never visited one of Berlin's famous brothels but I believe many of them are now closed (ever since Covid?[/QUOTE]Are there any escort agencies you would recommend? I like the Artemis option, but it doesn't work every day for me. I have yet to try out the agencies.
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Selinda Kaufmich-Met her few days back
Dear fellow Mongers.
Met the MILF called Selinda, age 49 at her apartment in Nestostrasse. She is from Ukraine but speaks good German and no English. Looks wise she is a bit old, but super fit body. Deal was 1 hour for 150 k including DFK; BBBBJ, and nice massage in the end. She is super nice and super friendly, amazing BBBJ and not a time watcher. You can find her in kaufmich as Selinda.
WIR: may be if I don't have an option.
Planning to meet Maria (Berlinintime) an Sweetone (kaufmich) soon. Will come up with an FR.
Happy Mongering.
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Beyond Artemis
Hey there!
So, for the last few times in Berlin, I visited Artemis. It suits me because my hotel is near, I can easily kill time in sauna if I don't see anybody I like. The upstairs are clouded in the late evenings, but you can find some quiet spaces downstairs if you need to rest a bit. Yes, the price went up and the variety of the ladies went down. I cannot really say 'quality' went down, because I think, expectations have changed.
Anyways, this time, I would like to try few other options. I read that Aston and King George are highly discouraged, and Royal is a good choice but pricey. Any other choices?
I am in to locals, or maybe Latinas. I am not into Asians much (sorry!) and Romanians (because we can have them in FKKs). Any suggestions are highly appreciated!
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Amelya Massage. Dana
Berlin is a massage lovers paradise as I was soon to learn. I visited 2 this trip and have a short list of 2 more. The prices generally hover around 120 for an hour but many offer 30 or 45 minute sessions at lower rates. For those who care the system is pretty much the same at many of the places. If you do not have an appt you can ask for a line up. Otherwise appts are recommended. SMS via What's App is usually pretty standard but a few require you to phone.
After getting off plane and taking a few public transport vehicles I got to my hotel and immediately called Amelya' Massage. A friend had suggested I see Dana to work the kinks out of my back from the long flight! They were booked up for the next 3 hours. Crazy but I made a 5:30 appt to see Dana. Body to body. Extra firm sport massage. Half with hands and half with her D's. Hand ending but as I learned this week no extras provided or offered until they know you -although to be clear- supposedly Dana has none on her list.
[URL]https://www.ameliya.de/masseurin-dana-72244.html[/URL]
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Two days. Face down with the queen of massage
Had coffee in the morning with a local friend who is really into the massage scene and he was able to tip me to Sensual Massage. Nearish my hotel. They were supposed to have 7 girls working but when I called only 2 were available with the rest off on break or busy. I figured it was easier to run over and do a line up rather than risk a bad choice ***Got there and one of the ladies I had selected from photos Sophie / Sophia was free. The other lady was a 19 year old russian who looked too young for my tastes. "Lika" is her name. Supposedly Sensual has more skinny girls than most places (skinny & fit and some with extras) Booked an hour for 120 euros and was led to a room. Shower in room along with a stripper pole (if you want a girl to give you a show. I guess).
Anyway Sophia is REALLY trained in massage. Been at Sensual several years and speaks English. Originally from Poland, she has a tight body with small breasts **Blond and attractive. I asked about extras she said no Even without the HJ it was one of both the most firm and professional massages while at the same time intermingling many erotic detours on my privates and ass with her fingers and breasts. I'd actually consider booking her as a masseuse even if she didn't work naked!
The Sensual Massage building is worn down and the showers could use a lot of work but the girls make up for it!
Day 2.
Was supposed to head off to Artemis but an evening meeting intervened and so I rebooked Sophia. This time she was happy to talk extras (she said she needs to feel comfortable with the client) and said BBBJ was on the menu but I was too tired on day 3 of my sex tour to care. * she was very happy to see me again and time never seemed an issue although she worked a bit more for the "happy" part of my visit!
Sometime it's impossible for google search to pull up the website since "sensual massage" is in every erotic ad
https://www.sensual-massage-berlin.de/masseurin-Sophia-316.html
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[QUOTE=TomCatInWarsaw;3063060]I would like to try few other options. I read that Aston and King George are highly discouraged, and Royal is a good choice but pricey. Any other choices?[/QUOTE]There is German expression RTFF. Way back to 25 March 2026 post #9272.
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?668-Berlin&p=3058196&viewfull=1[/URL]
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Sorry! Adding.
[QUOTE=NookyNinja;3063338]There is German expression RTFF. Way back to 25 March 2026 post #9272.
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?668-Berlin&p=3058196&viewfull=1[/URL][/QUOTE]Yes, Ninja. Sorry, I think I hastily posted.
I have read the 2023 'beginner's guide' with your and other's comment. I read this thread, as well as German cites.
Though, many of those listed on the 2023 report are now closed. Those recent comments often talk about massages or foreign girls.
I see very little about locals working in those independent places apart from some MILFs reported.
That's why I wanted to ask your guidance on which one (s) are likely to fit my taste. I am not into kinky thingies nor skinny ladies.
I want full service with OWO. Ideally someone who likes to chat a bit for an hour session.
Again, sorry if I sounded like those who post here without doing dome homework!
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Went to Artemis a short while ago.
First session: Hot Azeri girl. €90 for sex and BBBJ. No complaints. Great session, friendly girl. Wish they could all be like that.
Second session: As soon as I entered the bar area after taking a shower, a hot Turkish girl starting chatting with me. I told her I was tired and needed some time to recharge. She's like okay let's sit out the couch and talk and drink coffee. She said her "sister" was there and talked me into a threesome after I go eat. They told me to leave my coffee with them and come back and drink it later. I thought it was weird and in any other place, I would have thought they were going to put something in the drink, but I was probably just being paranoid. I took it with me and ate, then we all 3 went upstairs. They tried upselling and I wasn't doing it and honestly it was very bad due to their attitudes. So the night ended on a bad note, then I left. €180 and of course they asked for a tip, which I didn't give.
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[QUOTE=TomCatInWarsaw;3063392]I see very little about locals working in those independent places apart from some MILFs reported.
I am not into kinky thingies nor skinny ladies.I want full service with OWO. Ideally someone who likes to chat a bit for an hour session.
Again, sorry if I sounded like those who post here without doing dome homework![/QUOTE]Recommendations almost useless. All this taste and chemistry thing. All places mentioned in March easily have what you want. Do homework -go to websites (easy search or start from bordellos on BerlinIntim), make list of candidate girls, call first to see who actually there, then go. Either make appointment or view parade first.
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[QUOTE=NRandom940;3063403]Went to Artemis a short while ago.[/QUOTE]ISG has Artemis thread. http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2588-FKK-Artemis-Berlin
Next time post there. Helps everyone.
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Plus what he said.
[QUOTE=NookyNinja;3063477]Recommendations almost useless. All this taste and chemistry thing. All places mentioned in March easily have what you want. Do homework -go to websites (easy search or start from bordellos on BerlinIntim), make list of candidate girls, call first to see who actually there, then go. Either make appointment or view parade first.[/QUOTE]I will add that when you select a handful of ladies, do a cross check on Lusthaus. You won't find all of them, but if they are good, you might find a few. Lust has a strong Berlin review contingent and I've found a lot of stuff on the site. Granted, like everything else in the world, buyer beware, you're "curvey" girl might be PLUMP for me, or your OWO might be a case of "only with known clients".
IN FACT, i just looked at Lusthaus for something else and noticed two recent reviews on SALON PRESTIGE
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Alina, travelling easteuropean MILF
I had a good meeting with a nice friendly MILF from eastern Europe. Good German, English unknown. She has an advert on markt. De.
[URL]https://erotik.markt.de/berlin/sie-sucht-ihn/alina-ist-neu-in-der-stadt-sexy-und-geil/a/88ccd4bb/[/URL]
She resides in a small clean short-term apartment near Wittenbergplatz Station. Her pictures are correct and recent, although she did not received me in the red plastic, but nice black satin lingerie. Fine Lady with longer hair, little bit chubby with round ass and small titties, but generally good shape, all natural. A fine woman. You see the pics. You write directly with her on the phone. She greeted me with kissing, teasing and french, to build up the excitement, then sex in 1-2 positions until finish. She is quite active and not pushing (but aware of the time, I stayed exactly 1 HR), good AST afterwards. Whole damage was 130 E / h. I was very satiesfied and will repeat the visit in May before she leaves again.
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Seeking Oral without Protect (FO) with Escort
I apologize if this is in the wrong forum as I didn't think the other topics were more appropriate.
Will be visiting Berlin and I have a question regarding receiving oral without protection or otherwise known as the German acronym FO from escorts. I understand that it is not legal for workers to provide this service but I have seen reports where it is still given (e. G. At FKK). Is this a rare thing for escorts and is there some type of less explicit code word for it? Also is this law enforced in practice or do the authorities look the other way?
I have been using Kauf Mich and many listing show a "Safer sex" badge or list "Unprotected practices" as a taboo. Is that a hint that if they are not listed then the worker might be open to FO? The Kauf Mich community rules states "With the safer sex info in your profile you make it clear that inquiries for unsafe services are unacceptable for you. Members who still ask for unprotected services will be disciplined according to our rules".
Thank you in advance.
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Oral History
[QUOTE=LeftHandDrive;3067226]Receiving FO from escorts. I understand that it is not legal for workers to provide this service but I have seen reports where it is still given (e. G. At FKK). Is this a rare thing for escorts [/QUOTE]Officially not sanctioned but occurs 95% of time, for +20-50 €. Is not posted for obvious reasons. You simply ask on phone or direct text. Everyone knows it cannot be enforced. Done to give girls the option to say no, to (amazingly) make few euros more, and slow rate of STDs. All of Berlin should be in hospital or dead by now by how often it occurs.
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[QUOTE=LeftHandDrive;3067226]
I have been using Kauf Mich and many listing show a "Safer sex" badge or list "Unprotected practices" as a taboo. Is that a hint that if they are not listed then the worker might be open to FO? The Kauf Mich community rules states "With the safer sex info in your profile you make it clear that inquiries for unsafe services are unacceptable for you. Members who still ask for unprotected services will be disciplined according to our rules".
Thank you in advance.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=NookyNinja;3067292]Officially not sanctioned but occurs 95% of time, for +20-50 . Is not posted for obvious reasons. You simply ask on phone or direct text. Everyone knows it cannot be enforced. Done to give girls the option to say no, to (amazingly) make few euros more, and slow rate of STDs. All of Berlin should be in hospital or dead by now by how often it occurs.[/QUOTE]Not that it is more reliable. Just more local you should check BerlinIntim for offerings. And Nooky knows "Nooky"! Yup. An Upcharge. I'd be happy for 20 but sadly more likely to be 50 in places like Artemis!
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Ask
[QUOTE=LeftHandDrive;3067226]I apologize if this is in the wrong forum as I didn't think the other topics were more appropriate.
Will be visiting Berlin and I have a question regarding receiving oral without protection or otherwise known as the German acronym FO from escorts. I understand that it is not legal for workers to provide this service but I have seen reports where it is still given (e. G. At FKK). Is this a rare thing for escorts and is there some type of less explicit code word for it? Also is this law enforced in practice or do the authorities look the other way?
I have been using Kauf Mich and many listing show a "Safer sex" badge or list "Unprotected practices" as a taboo. Is that a hint that if they are not listed then the worker might be open to FO? The Kauf Mich community rules states "With the safer sex info in your profile you make it clear that inquiries for unsafe services are unacceptable for you. Members who still ask for unprotected services will be disciplined according to our rules".
Thank you in advance.[/QUOTE]I have two go-to ladies in Berlin that I met through Kauf Mich. Both are down to suck a bare dick.
Find a lady you like. Message them through KM, and tell them you are interested in them. Do not mention AO when messaging through Kauf Mich. You can cause problems for the girl. Get a phone number from the lady, and ask through text message.
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[QUOTE=Leroy1969;3068662] Do not mention AO when messaging[/QUOTE]German abbreviation for bareback blowjob is FO (Französisch Ohne).
AO means Alles Ohne = full unprotected intercourse.
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Messaging.
[QUOTE=LeftHandDrive;3067226]I apologize if this is in the wrong forum as I didn't think the other topics were more appropriate.
Will be visiting Berlin and I have a question regarding receiving oral without protection or otherwise known as the German acronym FO from escorts. I understand that it is not legal for workers to provide this service but I have seen reports where it is still given (e. G. At FKK). Is this a rare thing for escorts and is there some type of less explicit code word for it? Also is this law enforced in practice or do the authorities look the other way?
I have been using Kauf Mich and many listing show a "Safer sex" badge or list "Unprotected practices" as a taboo. Is that a hint that if they are not listed then the worker might be open to FO? The Kauf Mich community rules states "With the safer sex info in your profile you make it clear that inquiries for unsafe services are unacceptable for you. Members who still ask for unprotected services will be disciplined according to our rules".
Thank you in advance.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Leroy1969;3068662]I have two go-to ladies in Berlin that I met through Kauf Mich. Both are down to suck a bare dick.
Find a lady you like. Message them through KM, and tell them you are interested in them. Do not mention AO when messaging through Kauf Mich. You can cause problems for the girl. Get a phone number from the lady, and ask through text message.[/QUOTE]When people mention messaging, most (not all) mean What's App. If you are paranoid and need a second phone, you can also get a "internet phone app" like Burner and link your What's app to that.
Anyway, if you do decide to message etc. DeepL is better than google translate for colloquialisms. NOt perfect but better.
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Escort agencies in Berlin
Spent a week recently in Berlin and tried two escort agencies in addition to Artemis.
Ophelia-escort-Berlin advertises 90/ HR but actually charges 100. Girl who arrived looked nothing like the photos, and wasn't even the same nationality! Didn't speak English despite the profile saying she did. Lackluster service. (Note: there is another agency Ophelia-escort that I didn't try. I guess the one I tried is squatting on the name.)
I was blown away by the Gemma Girls website, which promises true GFE with a GND. The girl I met looked exactly like her pictures, and was an intelligent professional with a full-time job outside escorting. It felt like a hook-up with a friend. Expensive, but recommended for the unique experience.
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Re: Escort agencies in Berlin
[QUOTE=Jkass470;3071308]... Expensive, but recommended for the unique experience.[/QUOTE]Thank you for the posting!
Could you please add some flesh to the bones and tell, what "expensive" means?
What did you pay? Which woman can you recommend? And what is the link to their website?
About Ophelia Escort, you are correct.
[URL]https://www.ophelia-escort-berlin.com/[/URL] is disappointing.
[URL]https://ophelia-escort.de/[/URL] seems fine.
All according to reports in german forums. I have no own personal experiences either.
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Berlin or Prague?
I am not a stranger to Berlin. This city has provided me with many happy sexual memories. On my more recent visits I have been disappointed by the lack of quality of the daytime brothels and my evening visits to Artemis. Long gone are the interactions with young, beautiful, fit, and preferably blond agreeable women. Now the brothels I visited have rather marginal characters, broken by age or circumstance; and Artemis, once one of my favorite places (along with Oase), is populated by a strange assortment of women, may whom I would never consider as sexual partners. Certainly, there still remain some attractive women, but I have been shocked by the steep drop-off of appearance and loss of service. I could have never imagined that I would be refused DATY by multiple women at Artemis for the standard 70 E or even for the upsell of 90 E /30 min. Maybe more recent visitors have had better luck? I have now resorted to visiting massage parlors where at least I get a full hour of massage with a beautiful girl for about 140 E with happy ending and am begrudgingly satisfied with the interaction.
This brings me to my question: Berlin or Prague? I am at a point where I will gladly drive 4 hours to Prague if I am reasonably guaranteed satisfaction. The overall per hour price is less in Prague, and their massages often include "pussy massage," or DATY-69, my favorite activity. I usually like to have sex with numerous women in a given day. Driving around Berlin visiting brothels was not successful. It seems that Prague offers the possibility of high-volume, decent-quality, moderate cost visits.
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Indeed, it does. Berlin is almost dead. Prague has lot to offer at cheaper prices. Weekend Getaway for Mongering.
[QUOTE=Ak233;3074676]I am not a stranger to Berlin. This city has provided me with many happy sexual memories. On my more recent visits I have been disappointed by the lack of quality of the daytime brothels and my evening visits to Artemis. Long gone are the interactions with young, beautiful, fit, and preferably blond agreeable women. Now the brothels I visited have rather marginal characters, broken by age or circumstance; and Artemis, once one of my favorite places (along with Oase), is populated by a strange assortment of women, may whom I would never consider as sexual partners. Certainly, there still remain some attractive women, but I have been shocked by the steep drop-off of appearance and loss of service. I could have never imagined that I would be refused DATY by multiple women at Artemis for the standard 70 E or even for the upsell of 90 E /30 min. Maybe more recent visitors have had better luck? I have now resorted to visiting massage parlors where at least I get a full hour of massage with a beautiful girl for about 140 E with happy ending and am begrudgingly satisfied with the interaction.
This brings me to my question: Berlin or Prague? I am at a point where I will gladly drive 4 hours to Prague if I am reasonably guaranteed satisfaction. The overall per hour price is less in Prague, and their massages often include "pussy massage," or DATY-69, my favorite activity. I usually like to have sex with numerous women in a given day. Driving around Berlin visiting brothels was not successful. It seems that Prague offers the possibility of high-volume, decent-quality, moderate cost visits.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Jkass470;3071308]Spent a week recently in Berlin and tried two escort agencies in addition to Artemis.
Ophelia-escort-Berlin advertises 90/ HR but actually charges 100. Girl who arrived looked nothing like the photos, and wasn't even the same nationality! Didn't speak English despite the profile saying she did. Lackluster service. (Note: there is another agency Ophelia-escort that I didn't try. I guess the one I tried is squatting on the name.)
I was blown away by the Gemma Girls website, which promises true GFE with a GND. The girl I met looked exactly like her pictures, and was an intelligent professional with a full-time job outside escorting. It felt like a hook-up with a friend. Expensive, but recommended for the unique experience.[/QUOTE]Can you let us know who you saw at Gemma's, and whether the oral sex was BBBJ or CBJ? Anna at Gemma's looks delectable.
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[QUOTE=Ak233;3074676]I am not a stranger to Berlin. This city has provided me with many happy sexual memories. On my more recent visits I have been disappointed by the lack of quality of the daytime brothels and my evening visits to Artemis. Long gone are the interactions with young, beautiful, fit, and preferably blond agreeable women. Now the brothels I visited have rather marginal characters, broken by age or circumstance; and Artemis, once one of my favorite places (along with Oase), is populated by a strange assortment of women, may whom I would never consider as sexual partners. Certainly, there still remain some attractive women, but I have been shocked by the steep drop-off of appearance and loss of service. I could have never imagined that I would be refused DATY by multiple women at Artemis for the standard 70 E or even for the upsell of 90 E /30 min. Maybe more recent visitors have had better luck? I have now resorted to visiting massage parlors where at least I get a full hour of massage with a beautiful girl for about 140 E with happy ending and am begrudgingly satisfied with the interaction.
This brings me to my question: Berlin or Prague? I am at a point where I will gladly drive 4 hours to Prague if I am reasonably guaranteed satisfaction. The overall per hour price is less in Prague, and their massages often include "pussy massage," or DATY-69, my favorite activity. I usually like to have sex with numerous women in a given day. Driving around Berlin visiting brothels was not successful. It seems that Prague offers the possibility of high-volume, decent-quality, moderate cost visits.[/QUOTE]Did you try Royal in Berlin?
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[QUOTE=Bobo.fr;3075059]Did you try Royal in Berlin?[/QUOTE]I was there about a month ago. And once before last year. Last year I did three visits, two of which I found a decent looking girl in the line up. One was a pro performer, the other had a pretty stale attitude and zero extras. CBJ and Sex, that's it. One visit last year was a dud, with no-one I liked in the line up so just left.
On my visit last month, I was in and out in 10 minutes again. Poor line-up and did not return. It takes me 30 minutes to get there and 30 minutes to get back on the train from my place in Potsdam Platz. Spending an hour round trip to end up spending 15 minutes there to turn down the offering of 5 or so women made me reluctant to repeat the effort.
If you do go, I have some tips. Once you pick a girl you have to be very specific at the time of payment exactly what you want to do because practically anything beyond a CBJ and Sex will attract a 20 EUR surcharge. Yes it can get pricey, but I do like the fact that everything has a clear price and that they encourage you be clear on it up front. One more tip. They work on what I call 'commute-business hours' which means their prime times are when people are between office hours. Meaning. Weekday lunch breaks are their prime time. And weekday home commute (4 pm-5 pm). They are closed past 8 pm so if you show up at 6 pm you are with the late crowd. And very slim line-ups on weekends.
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[QUOTE=JizzyB;3074784]Indeed, it does. Berlin is almost dead. Prague has lot to offer at cheaper prices. Weekend Getaway for Mongering.[/QUOTE]Don't be ridiculous, Berlin is far from dead, even if quality isn't as good as before COVID.
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Royal
Thanks for the tip regarding Royal, although concerned about cost. I am generally in the range of 200 E / hour. On their website the room-only cost goes for various durations and prices (70 E /30,80 E /40, and 100 E /60 min) so should I assume the basic girl rate doubles the total visit cost (70 +70/30 min, 80+80/40 min, 100 E+100 E /60 min)? If I go for the 160 E /40 min then add 2 extras (DATY+ rimming), I am already at the 200 E /40 min. The girls on the website look very attractive. I appreciate the warnings from the earlier poster.
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Maybe it's not dead for you. I just refuse to pay premium prices for mediocre experiences when Poland and Prague offer way better value.
[QUOTE=BaltiX;3075243]Don't be ridiculous, Berlin is far from dead, even if quality isn't as good as before COVID.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Ak233;3075854]... so should I assume the basic girl rate doubles the total visit cost (70 +70/30 min, 80+80/40 min, 100 E+100 E /60 min)? [/QUOTE]At least, in the past, that's the rule.
[QUOTE=Ak233;3075854]... add 2 extras (DATY+ rimming), ....[/QUOTE]In general, no extras for DATY, at least with an 1 hour meeting.
However, now, the spirit of these sex workers may change (in the bad way) so probably you should ask them during the parade for confirmation.
You can find "Salon Prestige", close to Adenauer place, with lower prices (I don't know if it still belongs to "Liberty"'s boss that is closed now). Notice that porn actress July Sun who worked at "Royal" works now at "Salon Prestige".
There's also "Gina Tango Rosa" where the workers had their own prices higher than the rule mentionned above.
You may have a look at this thread that unfortunately is not fed by current posts: [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/forumdisplay.php?775-Germany-Brothels[/URL].
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[QUOTE=FakeIt;3075096]I was there about a month ago. And once before last year. Last year I did three visits, two of which I found a decent looking girl in the line up. One was a pro performer, the other had a pretty stale attitude and zero extras. CBJ and Sex, that's it. One visit last year was a dud, with no-one I liked in the line up so just left.
On my visit last month, I was in and out in 10 minutes again. Poor line-up and did not return. It takes me 30 minutes to get there and 30 minutes to get back on the train from my place in Potsdam Platz. Spending an hour round trip to end up spending 15 minutes there to turn down the offering of 5 or so women made me reluctant to repeat the effort.
If you do go, I have some tips. Once you pick a girl you have to be very specific at the time of payment exactly what you want to do because practically anything beyond a CBJ and Sex will attract a 20 EUR surcharge. Yes it can get pricey, but I do like the fact that everything has a clear price and that they encourage you be clear on it up front. One more tip. They work on what I call 'commute-business hours' which means their prime times are when people are between office hours. Meaning. Weekday lunch breaks are their prime time. And weekday home commute (4 pm-5 pm). They are closed past 8 pm so if you show up at 6 pm you are with the late crowd. And very slim line-ups on weekends.[/QUOTE]Did you ask for extras for those girls you saw last year?
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[QUOTE=BaltiX;3076772]Did you ask for extras for those girls you saw last year?[/QUOTE]Sure did. Only one said 'no extras'. I went for a quickie with her anyway since I had 30 minutes of sunk cost getting myself over to them in the first place.
With the others I wanted BBJ, CIM to which they quoted 20 E for each extra. With those who agreed to extras I take an hour.
I wasn't interested in DFK or Datty although I am confident that would be have been another 20 each as well.
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Herrenhaus and Studio Garden Eden
Any recent updates on this bordello? The website [URL]https://herrenhaus-berlin.de/[/URL] shows a number of attractive women. Any experiences on prices and service? Some of the other message boards are generally OK with this place. Of note, they also offer BDSM as the Garden Eden Studio. Many of the women can be seen on both sites. I imagine the pricing at Garden Eden [URL]https://dominastudio-berlin.com/[/URL] is a bit higher. Looking through some of the profiles on Garden Eden studio a couple of the women ask for 150/30 and 250/hr.
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[QUOTE=Ak233;3078033]Any recent updates on this bordello? The website [URL]https://herrenhaus-berlin.de/[/URL] shows a number of attractive women. Any experiences on prices and service?[/QUOTE]Place nice enough but reality very mixed. Depends on girl-prices vary from reasonable to ridiculous. Management vibe is not friendly (the main number not S&M. Ha ha), rarely know in advance who will be there. You must call each day to be sure. Contrast with Ginas Tango Rosa in Steglitz where all always in good mood, and 50-100 less.
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Yes, agree. Prices quoted for the girls I inquired about were exorbitant.
[QUOTE=NookyNinja;3078085]Place nice enough but reality very mixed. Depends on girl-prices vary from reasonable to ridiculous. Management vibe is not friendly (the main number not S&M. Ha ha), rarely know in advance who will be there. You must call each day to be sure. Contrast with Ginas Tango Rosa in Steglitz where all always in good mood, and 50-100 less.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=JizzyB;3074784]Indeed, it does. Berlin is almost dead. Prague has lot to offer at cheaper prices. Weekend Getaway for Mongering.[/QUOTE]Isn't there a Eros centre, (like in Frankfurt) there? You know, a Laufhaus type Bordella? Or if not, anywhere a bit like it?
Berlin almost dead? It has the most reports here out of any German city. Really? I heard Prague had died right off or was very expensive now. I mention this because I have to stop off in Europe on the way to somewhere else soon. Trying to sort out some hobbying on the way. I worry about having poor service from these ones arranged through websites. Bit of a lottery it would seem to me. Brussels could be an option instead, if Berlin really has died?
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[QUOTE=Fosi76;3080911]Isn't there a Eros centre [/QUOTE]No.
[QUOTE]Berlin almost dead? It has the most reports here out of any German city. [/QUOTE]It has Artemis with 100+ girls. Maybe 50+ private apartment bordellos. 25+ Massage salons. 300+ indies. Very active local threads on "Lusthaus".
See this: [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4033-The-Berlin-Sex-Scene.-A-Beginner-s-Guide[/URL].
Look also "BerlinIntim", for intro portal, with catagories, "Omello". Must do research. But 24/7/365 no problem here. If someone think Berlin is dead, they probably dead.
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What are your most Unique Mongering Experiences in Europe?
What are some of the most unique mongering experience that you have had / would recommend having in Europe.
I have mongered world over, and at this point a bit bored of the incall / outcall / spa / apartment scene.
For inspiration, some of my most unique / memorable experiences have been -.
1. Clube Vive in Madrid. You are in what is a very normal club looking place with lots of women and men. Hard to tell which woman is working vs. There for a drink. You approach the one you like, strike a deal and take them downstairs where they have designated rooms for booking.
2. FKK clubs in Germany as you all know.
3. A weird swinging party in prague, where I went as a single. Couldn't really see any actual swinging women. But as an intro / welcome one of the house ladies (I suppose) jerked off everyone who entered. She wasnt even attractive, just was part of the welcome. Didn't get laid that night, but was a unique experience nonetheless.
4. Outside Europe. Nightclubs in Wanchai, Hong Kong: Similar to Vive, but no rooms downstairs. Just buy a drink for the girl and she may make out / put her hands in your pants to jerk you off.
5. Outside Europe. Saunas in Lima: You are in a Sauna, where random girls are wandering (along with dozens of naked guys). You like one, you talk to them and go to upstairs room in that sauna.
6. (Not sexual but worth a honorary mention)) - Mixed gender fully naked baths in Baden Baden.
7. Cuddling experiences at various places, where sometimes it leads to more.
Would love to hear from folks here on what else have they experienced. Or where can I find places like Vive (would say the most exciting concept for me as the fun is in the chase), outside Madrid?
Thanks in advance for your responses.
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[QUOTE=AlgernonM;3087268]What are some of the most unique mongering experience that you have had / would recommend having in Europe.
I have mongered world over, and at this point a bit bored of the incall / outcall / spa / apartment scene.
For inspiration, some of my most unique / memorable experiences have been -.
1. Clube Vive in Madrid. You are in what is a very normal club looking place with lots of women and men. Hard to tell which woman is working vs. There for a drink. You approach the one you like, strike a deal and take them downstairs where they have designated rooms for booking.
2. FKK clubs in Germany as you all know.
3. A weird swinging party in prague, where I went as a single. Couldn't really see any actual swinging women. But as an intro / welcome one of the house ladies (I suppose) jerked off everyone who entered. She wasnt even attractive, just was part of the welcome. Didn't get laid that night, but was a unique experience nonetheless.
4. Outside Europe. Nightclubs in Wanchai, Hong Kong: Similar to Vive, but no rooms downstairs. Just buy a drink for the girl and she may make out / put her hands in your pants to jerk you off.
5. Outside Europe. Saunas in Lima: You are in a Sauna, where random girls are wandering (along with dozens of naked guys). You like one, you talk to them and go to upstairs room in that sauna.
6. (Not sexual but worth a honorary mention)) - Mixed gender fully naked baths in Baden Baden.
7. Cuddling experiences at various places, where sometimes it leads to more.
Would love to hear from folks here on what else have they experienced. Or where can I find places like Vive (would say the most exciting concept for me as the fun is in the chase), outside Madrid?
Thanks in advance for your responses.[/QUOTE]Since you have posted on the Berlin thread I need to mention a couple of things unique to this city.
First. Fetish studios. Top notch stuff. Even as a compete newb who is not into BDSM you will find something interesting here. Browse the websites. Choose a girl you find attractive. Choose scenario (or 'scene' as they like to call it) that might interest you. Go and act it out. Very creative stuff mixed with the erotic. A slippery slope once you start.
Second. Tantra massage. Now this might sound lame but bear with me. Yes its a massage with a HJ. True. But. What makes it unique? The hippies. I guess it you could call them hipster these days. Or maybe emos. But whatever you call them. You get what I mean. Those types. Follow her instruction and you'll find that they are actually more tuned-in than you may think. At least that's my view on it from my usual cynical perspective. Plus the HJ lasts a good long while so you a qucikie like in some HJ shops. Just hope you get a lady who shaves her legs.
And then finally the swinger clubs. Now this is not really my bag. I don't need the hassle of dressing for the occasion. Many of these places only let you in if you have a certain look. Once you get passed that hurdle, if you are a single male you are then relegated to bottom of the pecking order. Generally in life, bottom of the list is not a place I like to occupy in any situation. BUT, if you are bothered to dress up, and if you, say, hire an escort to join you at the club, then I imagine much fun can be had. If I was resident in Berlin it might have this sorted. But for a fly-in I don't have time for it. I might go the escort route one day but I'd need to find the right escort first and that itself will take a while.
Other things you might wan tot try. Macau Saunas. The forum on that here is kind of dead, but rest assured they are still active and offer something unique. And quality of value and women is quite high. And then finally the many many weird variations of non-penetration activities of red light Japan. If I was into the looks and demeanor of Asian / Japenese women I would spend much more time in both these locations. But they are just not my style. Therefore during the season, I am content with the fast food version of the Asian persuasion that is readily found in Thailand at much more assessable venues and rates. But, don't be mislead my the industrial scale nature of the Thai sex sene. Seoul, Tokyo, Macau and even Hong Kong offer uniquely high quality high end experiences, they are just not targeted at the foreigners.
These do not represent my list of favorites. My cretira for that revolves much more around looks, age, ethnicity, language, clarity of services and overall ambiance of my surroundings. But based on purely 'uniqueness' of the experience. Those are my stand outs.
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OK here we go
[QUOTE=AlgernonM;3087268]What are some of the most unique mongering experience that you have had / would recommend having in Europe.
I have mongered world over, and at this point a bit bored of the incall / outcall / spa / apartment scene.
For inspiration, some of my most unique / memorable experiences have been -.
1. Clube Vive in Madrid. You are in what is a very normal club looking place with lots of women and men. Hard to tell which woman is working vs. There for a drink. You approach the one you like, strike a deal and take them downstairs where they have designated rooms for booking.
2. FKK clubs in Germany as you all know..[/QUOTE]I figure it's best to reply here since this is almost all off topic for this sub, but since admin allowed the OP here we go.
1) Most Fond Memory:
Maybe 35 years ago my first pro experience. I was in Madrid and picked up the local entertainment guide and saw an ad or review for an "American Bar: with lots of "gazelles and model" which I took to be either a singles bar or strip club. It was called Pigmalion and right up until COVID it was my favorite place on earth. I get there and I see it's packed with beautiful women in elegant cocktail dresses. I'm in jeans and a sweater. I order a beer and try not to show how shocked I am and how expensive it was. I sip it slowly, and this voluptuous blonde comes up to me. She's from Brazil and her Spanish is even worse than mine. I'm fluent now but back then I had a very shaky grasp. We have a nice conversation and eventually she asked me if I want to take her home and of course I say yes. She then explains how the place works and how much it cost and I tell her honestly I don't have that much. She asked how much I do have which is maybe 2/3 of what she was asking and she says OK because it's slow and I'm so nice. So we go back to my hotel and we have a great time full GFE. We're laying in bed afterwards cuddling, and she asks if I'm married, and I say no, and she says I should marry her which leads to a little more fooling around and another pop for me. This time in her mouth and she swallowed it. Then she falls asleep in my arms and the next morning is not awkward and I walk her down to the street and then go looking for a banker ATM so I can get a cash advance on my American Express card so I can get a taxi to the airport and go home. My very first hooker experience. And when it's like that, you're pretty much in it for life.
2) Most Bizarre:
There's a strip club in Acapulco called Tabares. It has a mix of girls some of them only do lap dances and others do privates. I was getting a full nude beyond lap dance because she was laying on top of me from a perfect 10 who unfortunately didn't do privates full service. Later, I did full service with a young MILF who was so passionate and so into being pleased instead of just being the pleaser and ended up spending the rest of the weekend with me for very little money. But what made it memorable and bizarre was that periodically a loud whistle would go off and all the waiters would start rollerskating around the club, which is enough of a head scratcher, but for some reason, they were wearing headdresses that were set on fire. Never understood why they did it or what the point was. It might've been some sort of drink special or two for one dance special I don't know. But it was just bizarre.
3) Most Surreal:
My only real Asia experience was in the Philippines. It was this bar up on stilts with a thatched roof, no walls and overhead ceiling fans. A bunch of Americans hanging out shooting pool, playing video games and drinking beer from a bottle. Well attractive, local girls walking around in cheap cocktail dresses trying to get our attention. It felt like right out of a war movie and in fact, this used to be a military rec center. I just remember the whole experience feeling like a pleasant out of body experience like this just can't be real. And I brought one of the women home with me and she was very passionate and spent the night and in the morning I gave her exactly what we had agreed to nothing extra and she was so grateful and she kissed it and said that it was for her baby child. It's kind of an eye-opener for me too to remind me that these are real people that we're dealing with and not objects not that I ever felt that way, but it really hit at home.
4) Most Impressive:
Brazil. I'm in the middle of a mini FKK tour. I just finished up at wellcum and was previously at sharks. And while I enjoyed myself in both places and would recommend them and even return, I was underwhelmed. Expectations were high because of all the hype. I know that people have been saying that it's not as good as it used to be. But the main reason I was underwhelmed is that nothing I saw was better or even on par with what I've seen already in Brazil. Brazil has the club like environment that these clubs have. With tons of hot girls walking around scandalous clad available for you to take out or take upstairs. And Rio has this thing called termas which are even more similar in the sense that you get a locker and a wristband you change into a robe you charge everything to your wristband, and the girls are walking around available for sex and there are deminimus spa facilities. No food. But the women totally blew away the women that I saw at the FKK club so far. Not just in looks but also an attitude. Because they would come up to you and they would try to seduce you not just with sweet talk, but brushing your hair back, caressing your cheek, nuzzling your neck hand on your thigh maybe rubbing your chest even grabbing your package. And not an aggressive way and if you told them that you were just hanging out and wanted to finish your beer, they may say that they will keep you company while you finish your beer if you gave a positive indication or they'll politely leave if you gave more of a colder reception. And hanging out with the girls and having all that foreplay in the open before, pulling them and going to a room and then also they would hang out with you afterwards. It was so less mercenary than what I've been seeing in the FKK clubs. Now, of course that was 25 years ago. And of course things have changed, but for one I've been reading is that prices have gone up, but the quality of the girls and the quality of service is still the same. And when I think of heaven on earth, I think of Brazil and I think of what that bar in Madrid used to be.
There's my hot take. Hope you enjoyed it OP.
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[QUOTE=FakeIt;3087289]
Second. Tantra massage. Now this might sound lame but bear with me. Yes its a massage with a HJ. True. But. What makes it unique? The hippies. I guess it you could call them hipster these days. Or maybe emos. But whatever you call them. You get what I mean. Those types. Follow her instruction and you'll find that they are actually more tuned-in than you may think. At least that's my view on it from my usual cynical perspective. Plus the HJ lasts a good long while so you a qucikie like in some HJ shops. Just hope you get a lady who shaves her legs.
[/QUOTE]Can you share some examples of these salons?
Google helps, of course, but I'm not sure who in, say, Berlin is a hipster and who isn't.
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Thank you
Thank you Tom and Fakeit. It was very nice to read about your unique experiences. Now I get to work on Google.
I must apologize for low relevance of my post to Berlin specifically. The reason I posted here is because a) Berlin and Germany in general has been one of my favorite spots in the world for quality / variety, not just in mongering (of course ignoring the price factor which is cheaper in asia) - my first FKK club was in Berlin etc. Etc. B) Berlin forum is the most active. I may post the same thing in other city forums (there is no active Europe wide forum best I can tell). If I do and learn something new, promise to report back.
I do hope also that this post helps bring out some less talked about unique experiences, for anyone interested, to explore!
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Fetish and tantra
[QUOTE=FakeIt;3087289]Since you have posted on the Berlin thread I need to mention a couple of things unique to this city.
First. Fetish studios. Top notch stuff. Even as a compete newb who is not into BDSM you will find something interesting here. Browse the websites. Choose a girl you find attractive. Choose scenario (or 'scene' as they like to call it) that might interest you. Go and act it out. Very creative stuff mixed with the erotic. A slippery slope once you start.
Second. Tantra massage. Now this might sound lame but bear with me. Yes its a massage with a HJ. True. But. What makes it unique? The hippies. I guess it you could call them hipster these days. Or maybe emos. But whatever you call them. You get what I mean. Those types. Follow her instruction and you'll find that they are actually more tuned-in than you may think. At least that's my view on it from my usual cynical perspective. Plus the HJ lasts a good long while so you a qucikie like in some HJ shops. Just hope you get a lady who shaves her legs..[/QUOTE]Tantra was better in Berlin pre Covid, but there's a couple places in Munich that are good as well. I agree with you, that this is one of the cities that seems to "go at it" for Tantra. My complain has often been that the better known tantra places require quite long appointments, and you don't get to pick the practitioner until you go for your second appt. ALmost all offer HJ with an option for a PM as an upgrade and then hard NO for anything else. (at least for non regulars).
As to BDSM / Fetish. It's all over the country- Austria included. But if you want to find any 'subs' in the fetish realm, then Berlin and Hamburg lead in ladies who advertise and are tied to clubs. IN many of the other cities you have to find the lady and then match up with the club. But it's easiest in those two. For newbies who want to see what's offered, [URL]https://bdsm-studio-lux.de/en[/URL] is a good place to start. There's also a website deSade something I think that is a escort site Germany wide (the other countries are almost null in terms of who advertises) where ladies offer and describe in detail what you can get. I summary, you can't always get what you want, but if you beg on your knees, you'll find. Youll get what you need (depending if you're a top or a bottom), You might event get to lick the boots of some attractive ladies.
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Thanks, very helpful.
Would you recommend any tantra places that you like? Could be in Berlin or anywhere in Europe?
For the fetish studios, the one you sent. Is that an example or one that you would recommend?
[QUOTE=Tintin1;3087560]Tantra was better in Berlin pre Covid, but there's a couple places in Munich that are good as well. I agree with you, that this is one of the cities that seems to "go at it" for Tantra. My complain has often been that the better known tantra places require quite long appointments, and you don't get to pick the practitioner until you go for your second appt. ALmost all offer HJ with an option for a PM as an upgrade and then hard NO for anything else. (at least for non regulars).
As to BDSM / Fetish. It's all over the country- Austria included. But if you want to find any 'subs' in the fetish realm, then Berlin and Hamburg lead in ladies who advertise and are tied to clubs. IN many of the other cities you have to find the lady and then match up with the club. But it's easiest in those two. For newbies who want to see what's offered, [URL]https://bdsm-studio-lux.de/en[/URL] is a good place to start. There's also a website deSade something I think that is a escort site Germany wide (the other countries are almost null in terms of who advertises) where ladies offer and describe in detail what you can get. I summary, you can't always get what you want, but if you beg on your knees, you'll find. Youll get what you need (depending if you're a top or a bottom), You might event get to lick the boots of some attractive ladies.[/QUOTE]
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Studio Lux, which earlier had quite a few subs working there, seems to have moved on and is primarily / only offering tops.
The De Sade website link is here: [URL]https://www.galeriedesade.com[/URL] , still also there the number of subs has become rather small, seems to be a trend.
There is an escort agency specializing in BDSM / submissive, see here [URL]https://www.fetishescort.com/de/fetish-escort-ladies/[/URL]
[QUOTE=Tintin1;3087560]Tantra was better in Berlin pre Covid, but there's a couple places in Munich that are good as well. I agree with you, that this is one of the cities that seems to "go at it" for Tantra. My complain has often been that the better known tantra places require quite long appointments, and you don't get to pick the practitioner until you go for your second appt. ALmost all offer HJ with an option for a PM as an upgrade and then hard NO for anything else. (at least for non regulars).
As to BDSM / Fetish. It's all over the country- Austria included. But if you want to find any 'subs' in the fetish realm, then Berlin and Hamburg lead in ladies who advertise and are tied to clubs. IN many of the other cities you have to find the lady and then match up with the club. But it's easiest in those two. For newbies who want to see what's offered, [URL]https://bdsm-studio-lux.de/en[/URL] is a good place to start. There's also a website deSade something I think that is a escort site Germany wide (the other countries are almost null in terms of who advertises) where ladies offer and describe in detail what you can get. I summary, you can't always get what you want, but if you beg on your knees, you'll find. Youll get what you need (depending if you're a top or a bottom), You might event get to lick the boots of some attractive ladies.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Phantasie310;3088684]Studio Lux, which earlier had quite a few subs working there, seems to have moved on and is primarily / only offering tops.
The De Sade website link is here: [URL]https://www.galeriedesade.com[/URL] , still also there the number of subs has become rather small, seems to be a trend.
There is an escort agency specializing in BDSM / submissive, see here [URL]https://www.fetishescort.com/de/fetish-escort-ladies/[/URL][/QUOTE]
It’s very cyclical on the Subs. Some visits I can't find any but if I do catch them, it’s always a small number. I also find that on Lux (at least in the past) you had to search the calendar for names not go by the main pages and listings. There were a few girls who occasionally popped up others who only "worked there by appointment". I found my first one by contacting them directly "I think"!
Also it's not a long game being a sub and the trust process usually requires a relationship. The few I have met have been mostly "in the room" offers and telling me to book them but not post. There was one in Munich I loved for light submission. Like the ladies on your website suggestion. Most wanted a 2 hour minimum.