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Did finally manage to get to the Makati Halloween party after midnight. Lots and lots of guys. The place was full. Costumes not as good as last year. Girls seemed to favour white dresses with either bunny ears or eye masks. One or two guys complained that they couldn't recognise the ladies. Ha Ha ha. Staff went arounf giving regular shots. A happy atmosphere.

Did seem to be less people in wanchai than in past years.

Makati. Business levels have dropped. Smoking ban had some impact. But girls having to pay entry and sometimes having to cue up is a factor. And some of the Indo's are now going to HK cafe.

[QUOTE=Chantik; 1491045]Did finally manage to get to the Makati Halloween party after midnight. Lots and lots of guys. The place was full. Costumes not as good as last year. Girls seemed to favour white dresses with either bunny ears or eye masks. One or two guys complained that they couldn't recognise the ladies. Ha Ha ha. Staff went arounf giving regular shots. A happy atmosphere.

Did seem to be less people in wanchai than in past years.

Makati. Business levels have dropped. Smoking ban had some impact. But girls having to pay entry and sometimes having to cue up is a factor. And some of the Indo's are now going to HK cafe.[/QUOTE]Chantik,

What was the costume you were wearing? If you say the right answer, I might have to see you when I'm in HK in December.

NP

[QUOTE=NotParticular; 1491111]Chantik,

What was the costume you were wearing? If you say the right answer, I might have to see you when I'm in HK in December.

NP[/QUOTE]Costumeless but wearing clothes. Ha Ha Ha!

Because I had a 10pm meeting that night didn't have enough time to wear a costume. Remember being a lady it takes 2 or 3hrs to get ready.

But I have an array of costumes at home. Have lots of shoes / boots.

[QUOTE=LongLunches; 1488493]Okay, to start, the member who helped me is Brown Rail, he was happy for me to name him. Thanks buddy, see you for a couple of ales soon!

Anyway, my first report was posted earlier. This covers my return trip to HK. Another 4 days and how I got effectively freebie GFE.

I, on the other hand, wanted a true GFE and got that with the really enjoyable site seeing as well.

I had a ball in HK, I could have seen 30 more girls if I had the time. Treat them nice, and you never know, they may treat you nice as well.

I have already booked a return.

Brown Rail, thanks again mate.

See you for a beer soon.[/QUOTE]Wow, it seems there are hearts breaking all over HK tonight! So glad you enjoyed and always happy to help.

It is great to have a bar hopping mate. Lets do it again soon!

My last day in HK and I wanted to see if the girls at Moonbeam Village were as cute as I read here.

The receptionist asked what length of session I wanted. I opted for 60 minutes since I wasn't sure of the girl I would get. This very cute girl walks out and leads me back to a rather small massage room. She couldn't have been more than 20 and her name was Tintay, spelled the way it sounded. She had on a short, tight pink dress with the body I love. She was about 5'5", slim, flat stomach, great legs and just enough hips to hold onto. I was already turned on and told her I changed my mind and wanted 90 minutes. She smiled, picked up a towel and pointed down the hall and said shower. Not much privacy here but the bathroom did have a door.

The massage was great. I don't expect much of a massage at an AMP, but this was first class for me. On the flip, she went straight to the HE. Nice gentle, slow strokes just the way I like it. I began exploring those great legs and butt where I found she had on those spandex shorts. She was maybe an A on top so I had little interest there. She took her time, as did I, and had a great ending. She cleaned me up, walked out and I noticed it had only been 1 hour. I guess she didn't understand my extension request.

She came back about the time I finished dressing and held up fingers, indicating 440. I gave her 500 and waved off any change. As I was walking out, I passed a small room where the curtain was open a little and there were 3-4 other young girls in there, a couple very cute. I motioned for Tintay to come out and I handed her 100, got a big smile and left. I'm not sure how the tipping works here. Highly recommend. If I lived in HK, I would be a regular.

Thanks for the help guys.

This was a very good trip indeed. Met and fucked 2 aday just about everyday LOL.

Last night at king land Apts off Nathan Road, met Elaine and had a great 2 hrs with her. Nice DDs just good sex.

Couple days ago had Pinky from Thailand in SSP also a great fuck too. Spinner body and great BBBJ. No Greek this time as I couldn't find Dic Na from Sheung Wan area.

PC out

[QUOTE=Pcpc1688; 1491902]This was a very good trip indeed. Met and fucked 2 aday just about everyday LOL.

Last night at king land Apts off Nathan Road, met Elaine and had a great 2 hrs with her. Nice DDs just good sex.

Couple days ago had Pinky from Thailand in SSP also a great fuck too. Spinner body and great BBBJ. No Greek this time as I couldn't find Dic Na from Sheung Wan area.

PC out[/QUOTE]PC,

Just curious, how does one look these two girls up on 141? I did a search on 141 and nothing came up.

Thanks

For the guys.

Dropped into HK Cafe early Sunday evening. The place was humming. And it was packed like the old days in Wanchai. And I have never seen so many guys in HK Cafe. Think the secret is out about Sundays. Great eye candy for the guys. But they will need to work harder.

Cheers

[QUOTE=WyattEarp; 1491972]PC,

Just curious, how does one look these two girls up on 141? I did a search on 141 and nothing came up.

Thanks[/QUOTE]Not all the girls in the 141 buildings are on the site. I don't know why that is. Perhaps some of them are exclusively listed on other sites like 161 or 88, but I've seen girls listed on multiple sites so I don't know how it works. In some buildings like Fuji fewer than half the girls are on the web. that's where doing the local thing of knocking on lots of doors comes in handy.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp; 1491972]PC,

Just curious, how does one look these two girls up on 141? I did a search on 141 and nothing came up.

Thanks[/QUOTE]Like Rocket said its hit or miss. Mainly miss since they cover theirs faces. You just have to go knocking sometimes and I got lucky a few times and will see these couple perhaps after work for late dinner. Who knows they may become freebies later as I have a good track record of haha.

Anyway Pink was above the track betting club but she may move and its always fun to be surprised good and bad.

PC out

Word on the street is that a carrier group (the GW) US Navy will be in town from this Friday. 8th.

Cheers

Confirmed that the George washington arrives on Friday. Have a friend who is doing a tour of the carrier on the weekend. I wonder if Jack the Lad travelled to HK on the George washington.

[QUOTE=Chantik;1493294]I wonder if Jack the Lad travelled to HK on the George washington.[/QUOTE]Not Quite!

Still at home just waiting on a car to take me to the airport.

Arrive 2105 hrs on Friday. Hope to hit the streets about 1 hour later! Looking forward to it too.

Navy does not bother me!

Can tell you that the weather is good. Edge gone off the temperature. Still a nice 27/28C each day. But the women are hot. Soon your temperature will be rising!

Hi am visiting HK in next month got reference of s. 141 site.

Can I call a girl to my hotel, will the girl come to hotel or I need to meet thematthere place.

Does hotel administration object girls entry in my room.

Any other suggestion are well help my stay in HK.

I have also read about K-pressure 390

[QUOTE=Chantik;1493294]Confirmed that the George washington arrives on Friday. Have a friend who is doing a tour of the carrier on the weekend. .[/QUOTE]Many yeards back there was a large battle group that included the Abraham Lincoln. I was invited and they said " bring your passport". We duly set off in a motor boat for the Abraham Lincoln that was anchored a long long long way offshore. They gave us the tour and the ship then set sail (or set motor). After an hour or two they did all the normal take off and landing htat goes on. 24 hours a day on a carrier. After that, lunch, then more motoring and by the days end we were half way to Manila. Then came the best / worst part. We had to cram onto a small plane, seated backwards with a cross your heart type seatbelt, lights went red red orange green and this plane was caterpulted off the Abe and into the sky at something like 300 km per hour. Arrived back at the old Kai Tak runway. Exited plane and came to immigration and the guy asked our group to show our boarding passes as it was hard to explain where we had been. Was a great tour!

[QUOTE=ShamSagar; 1493508]Hi am visiting HK in next month got reference of s. 141 site.

Can I call a girl to my hotel, will the girl come to hotel or I need to meet thematthere place.

Does hotel administration object girls entry in my room.

Any other suggestion are well help my stay in HK.

I have also read about K-pressure 390[/QUOTE]141 has either [B]walk-ups[/B] Where you visit a facility and knock on doors until you find someone to your liking.

If you do the [B]walk-ins[/B], then you call the agent, he will tell you which hotel to visit, when you arrive, call them again for room number.

Most hotels are GF. For take backs. But don't expect to take 141 girls back to your room, that is more the exception than the norm.

[QUOTE=Chantik;1493294]Confirmed that the George washington arrives on Friday. Have a friend who is doing a tour of the carrier on the weekend. I wonder if Jack the Lad travelled to HK on the George washington.[/QUOTE]You mean your (girl) friend will tour the whole ship crew? LOL.

[QUOTE=Brown Rail; 1491558]Wow, it seems there are hearts breaking all over HK tonight! So glad you enjoyed and always happy to help.

It is great to have a bar hopping mate. Lets do it again soon![/QUOTE]Funny you should say that, have scored a work trip to London. Will stop in HK both ways for 3 nights each way LOL.

I'll let you know dates when booked.

Hi,

I need help to find Colombian girls, last time I visited Lockheart road I saw many of these in a club.

Can anyone share any website or links with photos to meet these South Americans hottees.

Thanks,

Human

One hour and 5 minutes after touchdown at 2105 hours at HKIA I was in my hotel in Wanchai excited at the prospect of tasting some of the delights of this part of the world. Sailed through immigration and the roads were quiet for the driver. A quick unpacking, shower and change and I was raring to go.

I had pre-planned not to be out after 1. 00am as I had a busy business schedule on the Saturday starting at 8. 00am.

The streets were busy and the pavements overflowing what with the navy in town. Fist stop Joe Bananas but it was heaving and not a lot of girls about.

Called at Neptune 111 to be warmly greeted by Mamasan Pearla and Sam. Very busy and had difficult in shaking off three girls from Vietnam who were so pushy for drinks, A quote of $2000 for ST was quickly rejected and suddenly dropped to $1500. Not interested.

Made the first of several visits to NM. The first one about midnight and the place was strangely quiet but it alters every couple of minutes as regulars there will know. Had a look in the HK café (the old Neptune 11) but it was full of guys!

Don't know why I always visit Borocay but I did, and although it was busier than usual, there was nothing there to interest me. Most of the gilrs there are controlled by agents so negotiation is difficult.

Met quite an attractive girl in NM who was 'game' and was seriously thinking of asking her back to the hotel but her dress, what there was of it, left a bit to be desired in that there was hardly any of it. I do have some rules!

Just about to head back alone – the time was now after 1. 30am when I literally bumped into a very attractive Filipina who was all over me like a rash at the NM bar. Lovely smile but carrying a few extra pounds and with thighs that could crack open walnuts. Who am I to talk.

Anyway $1000 was agreed (down from $1500 with no hesitation) and off we went.

For the second time in my life I met a raging nymphomaniac. Never had GFE like it either. She wanted to go at it all night, BBBJ was her speciality as well as doing 90% of the work in cowgirl position. Despite my best intentions of an early night, I had to fianlly persuade her to leave at 5. 00am. So much for a 1. 00am curfew.

Brenda was terrific but there is only so much a guy can take. At one time in DATY I had to stop because of the noise she was making.

I am now totally knackered. Saturday could be a quiet night.

Traveler1234 Thanks for your input. Due to language problem, its difficult in HK

Are there any suggestion on K Pressure, it will be help full to me as I am visiting first time.

I am also scared of getting robed. Is it same in HK

[QUOTE=Traveler1234; 1493651]141 has either [B]walk-ups[/B] Where you visit a facility and knock on doors until you find someone to your liking.

If you do the [B]walk-ins[/B], then you call the agent, he will tell you which hotel to visit, when you arrive, call them again for room number.

Most hotels are GF. For take backs. But don't expect to take 141 girls back to your room, that is more the exception than the norm.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ShamSagar;1494030]Are there any suggestion on K Pressure, it will be help full to me as I am visiting first time. I am also scared of getting robed. Is it same in HK[/QUOTE]Search K Pressure for updates.

HK is 100% safe and language is never an issue with 141.

Sorry to dissapoint my readers but Saturday was a quiet night following on the escapades of yesterday.

I strolled along about 11. 00pm. Busy again with the navy. Outside Coyote Bar. Chaos. So many people. Went to Neptune 111 and had a quiet couple of beers and collected a few phone numbers in the process.

On my way back I called into the massage place on Hennessy Road mentioned a few pages ago. Everything on offer but I restricted myself to a massage with extras at the end. Very nice too and provided with a fair bit of GFE and participation which I could tell she liked for the obvious reasons.

[QUOTE=Human007; 1493989]Hi,

I need help to find Colombian girls, last time I visited Lockheart road I saw many of these in a club.

Can anyone share any website or links with photos to meet these South Americans hottees.

Thanks,

Human[/QUOTE]Don't know about website but I met a colombian girl in Escape Bar (Nathalia I think) last month amazing but 2000 HKG for 1 hour! Too expensive you can have a phili girl for 1000 HKG

Hi Chantik,

You mention the HK Cafe but I cannot find? Where is it?

Using the search engine I am taken to Tijuana. LOL.

Many thanks.

Peter

[QUOTE=ShamSagar; 1494030]Traveler1234 Thanks for your input. Due to language problem, its difficult in HK

Are there any suggestion on K Pressure, it will be help full to me as I am visiting first time.

I am also scared of getting robed. Is it same in HK[/QUOTE]I just wanted to confirm what Traveler1234 wrote: you will not get robbed at a 141 place or at K Pressure, and language will not be an issue. Enjoy!

[QUOTE=Petertaylor; 1494196]Hi Chantik,

You mention the HK Cafe but I cannot find? Where is it?

Using the search engine I am taken to Tijuana. LOL.

Many thanks.

Peter[/QUOTE]The hk cafe was before Neptune II so if you search Neptune II on google then you will have the HK cafe (I am not Chantik!)

[QUOTE=ShamSagar; 1494030]Traveler1234 Thanks for your input. Due to language problem, its difficult in HK

Are there any suggestion on K Pressure, it will be help full to me as I am visiting first time.

I am also scared of getting robed. Is it same in HK[/QUOTE]You will have to get robed. Nudity in public is illegal in Hong Kong.

[QUOTE=ShamSagar; 1494030]Traveler1234 Thanks for your input. Due to language problem, its difficult in HK

Are there any suggestion on K Pressure, it will be help full to me as I am visiting first time.

I am also scared of getting robed. Is it same in HK[/QUOTE]You won't get robbed.

They likely won't speak English so you'll have to communicate with the universal language of "Love".

Haven't seen this posted anywhere on this Hong Kong report yet, but is there any place that anyone is familiar with that allows you to select more than one girl? There was a place in Bangkok called Eden that allowed you to take two chicks into a room, and I'd like to repeat that if possible in HK.

[QUOTE=Ozmutz; 1494250]You won't get robbed.

They likely won't speak English so you'll have to communicate with the universal language of "Love".[/QUOTE]IOW hold your hand out with 1000 HKG dollar notes & let her take as many as she likes, since she can't speak English and you can't speak Chinese.

Or it may go as with the Chinese, Viet, Thai & Indo hookers in SG who cannot speak your language, except one word like fifty, eighty, hundred. Or maybe she holds up 3 fingers to indicate 30 dollars. You either nod or walk away. If you agree then she takes you to a room, takes your money, leads you through her orchestrated routine, & kicks you out 10 minutes later when someone knocks on the door, whether you've cum or not.

Is that robbery when you were told it would be 30 minutes or an hour?

Is it robbery when the 141 worker pulls you into her room & then claims a rule that you have to pay an entrance fee, whether you do anything physical with her or not, even if you were inside for only 5 seconds, as someone reported here on ISG? I'm sure this is only one of many scams in HKG. Every country's sex trade is full of them.

If the two of you can't communicate in each other's language, it is going to be difficult to request & negotiate for particular services in her room or for an extended take out. It's much easier to just go along with her set routine with every other customer she sees.

flew into hk on wed night for a 2 night visit. first time i have been to hk alone. after dropping my gear off i caught a taxi over to wan chai and went for a walk

around. it was extremely busy with lots of young western people out partying. i felt a bit stupid in my jandels and t-shirt but oh well, walked past borcay and hk cafe

but they didn't look exciting. had a peek in a couple of places. the ones where there are a couple of girls outside trying to drag you in, and both were empty.

finally went into neptune 3, apparently attire isn't a problem! it was busy but wasn't packed, i prefer going to a bar alone when it is more busy. there wasn't a lot

of talent and turned away 3-4 girls who approached. there was a tidy looking girl with a good rack and her friend chatting up a couple of young guys in their 20's next

to me at the bar. after a while the guys left and she stayed standing in the same spot. i ignored her for a while but decided it probably wasn't going to get much

better! she was chinese from the mainland, english was passable and chatted away. i think she had already had a bit to drink. she suggested hotel and told me how much

for st, i asked how much for lt but was a bit pricey so passed. agreed on st and headed out and grabbed a taxi after short stop at the 7-11. now being a cheapskate i'm

staying at chungking mansion in a hostel, actually a double room in a nice hostel but still, i thought. this is going to be interesting. she had already asked where i

was staying and had given her the hostel card. when we got there apparently she was fine with it. after we arrived she offered lt at 40% less which i accepted. had

some good fun for an hour or two, good gfe, then slept. she had a great rack with huge nipples, i think real but not much in the way of booty. i guess normal chinese.

the morning session wasn't quite as good but it was okay. paid her and walked her out.

thursday i did the tourist thing and decided to give the 141 a go thursday evening as i wanted a good sleep before friday. after browsing the website, took a quick

walk down to james s. lee mansion. it seemed quite busy with many of the doors with please wait sign. found the door for malay off the website who looked like she had

potential, she was free and i wasn't disappointed. she said she was half thai half chinese. next took a long walk down to 66 parks st, jorden as it looked like it had

potentials on the website. it was a dump compared to james s and didn't see any other customers. also couldn't find any of the girls i had seen on the site. i knocked

on 3-4 doors and picked one based on first impression. she was okay but nothing special, and a bit fake. i didn't stick around any longer than i needed to.

all in all it was fun but personally i prefer kl and singapore so far.

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Need info on any affordable action near Rosedale Hotel on Tai Kok Tsui road.

Any information is greatly appreciated.

Work commitments today meant that I missed the maid parade in the afternoon and I was not able to get to Wan Chai until nearer 10. 00pm. After my experiences tonight I wish I had just carried on working.

Took a walk down to Wanchai about 10. 00pm. Called in at NM. Half empty and very few girls. Carried on to Neptune 111 which was fairly busy. Lots of Vietnamese plying their wares but at ridiculous prices. The cheapest quote was $2000. Went over to Escape. More guys than girls. Frightened to ask the costs there from what I read in previous posts. Had a look in Insider. Almost empty. HK Café next and again half empty. Plenty of Vietnamese around and one takes my fancy but prices herself out of the market at $2000 for an hour.

Returned to Neptune 111. It's now busy. I meet an fellow mongerer from way back and have a few beers.

I fall for the charms of one of the Vietnamese girls and we agree all night for $1500. I think her name was Jig or something like that. Taxi back to hotel and the trouble starts. She wants paid up front but there is no way I do this. We compromise by me leaving the money out. She showers and jumps into bed, complaining of the cold. I can soon warm her up, I think. No chance. No kissing despite an agreement. She winces as I explore her body. Time to call it a day and I tell her to follow my example and get dressed. Her English is poor and she starts talking loudly in her own language. Too loudly. She wants paid. I say no way and the histrionics start. I pretend to phone security but it makes no difference. By this time we are both dressed. She is pushing me for money and reduces it to $1000. Then down to $500, I tell her no way. She starts to get aggressive and I give her $300 and open the door half pushing her out. We go down the elevator and at the door I leave her, making my way back to Wan Chai. It must have been about 2. 00am by this time. I get to Neptune 111 and meet a Chinese girl going down the stairs. We strike up a conversation, although her English was poor and I buy her a drink. It's beginning to look good. At 3. 00am I think the prices must drop. There are plenty girls in but few guys. She wants $2000 and won't budge but wants another drink. I'm off, but not before Jig returns and draws me a few looks.

Guys, I wish I knew her name to warn off other punters. Buyer beware.

Still on the prowl, I venture into HK Café. Almost empty. NM gets another visit. It is now closed.

Amazonia is packed at 3. 00pm and a few girls are still free and available. I was quoted $4000 from one girl from Thailand, another wanted $2000.

I cut my losses and walk home.

Tomorrow it's got to be room service from my Chinese massage girl from previous visits. These prices are hard to justify. The Navy is still in town but they were not on the streets at that time. Sam, the manager in Neptune 111 tells me Monday is their last night. Maybe the prices will drop to more reasonable amounts when they go.

ThanksatTraveler1234, Mighty Spearsman, Tiger 888.

I have found few add stating s 141 there is catagory hotel walk in, for full night.

Is it safe to call a girl from 141 to hotel my hotel. What would your recommendation.

Sorry to bother, but this is my first time in HK

[QUOTE=Jackthelad2;1494620]Work commitments today meant that I missed the maid parade in the afternoon and I was not able to get to Wan Chai until nearer 10. 00pm. After my experiences tonight I wish I had just carried on working.[/QUOTE]I'm surprised and sorry to hear that JTL.

I thought later on a Sunday night was still good and a lot of fun. I haven't experienced it myself but am back in HK soon and am free from also about Sun 10pm and was hoping there would still be plenty of girls available.

Jack.

Think that if prices are unaffordable uou could try QV, especially if you go before Midnight. Prices tend to be more realistic. And you can often catch a lady during the day. A number of helpers have midweek holidays and are often in QV or OCH.

[QUOTE=ShamSagar;1494884]Is it safe to call a girl from 141 to hotel my hotel. What would your recommendation.[/QUOTE]Looks like you need someone to hold your hand, therefore why not contact the infamous Cantik here: meetcantik. Com

Can't really help anyone tonight with updates and info but the streets were very quiet despite the navy still in town. Even Coyote was passable on the pavement.

Looked into QV at 11. 30pm. Dead. OCH was a bit busier but it is a Monday night which is usually quiet. Neptune 111 very busy and plenty available girls around.

My Chinese massage girl phones me and I'm back to the hotel by midnight for a good night for a change.

Regarding the previous post of 141 girls coming to your hotel, this is no problem and completely safe. Phone the number listed and a pimp will make all the arrangments. Just watch bait and switch but I have always been well pleased.

[QUOTE=Traveler1234;1494951]Looks like you need someone to hold your hand, therefore why not contact the infamous Cantik here: meetcantik. Com[/QUOTE][QUOTE=ShamSagar;1494884]Sorry to bother, but this is my first time in HK[/QUOTE]HK is one of the safest cities to which I have travelled but one should still be careful in the red light districts. Some cities have people who advertise in the classified section as a nightlife tour guide. Maybe Cantik would offer a similar LT rate for guide and company. My best guides have been WGs and DHs. Though I am sure they hold back some information. All girls have their version of the truth and reality. LOL

[QUOTE=Chantik;1494950]Jack. A number of helpers have midweek holidays and are often in QV or OCH.[/QUOTE]Can confirm that though I rarely go to either. Used to be DH in between contracts would frequent bars but I have noticed less. The places they stay lock their doors at night so the DH have to wait till morning to get back in. Some kind gentleman usually will offer warm accommodations for the night.

[QUOTE=Jackthelad2; 1494620]She starts to get aggressive and I give her $300 and open the door half pushing her out.

Guys, I wish I knew her name to warn off other punters. Buyer beware.[/QUOTE]Tough one. Bad luck. Should have taken a pic and posted it. Names do not mean anything because they change it so often.

[QUOTE=Jackthelad2; 1494020]with thighs that could crack open walnuts. Who am I to talk.

For the second time in my life I met a raging nymphomaniac. Never had GFE like it either. She wanted to go at it all night, BBBJ was her speciality as well as doing 90% of the work in cowgirl position. Despite my best intentions of an early night, I had to fianlly persuade her to leave at 5. 00am. So much for a 1. 00am curfew.

Brenda was terrific but there is only so much a guy can take. At one time in DATY I had to stop because of the noise she was making.[/QUOTE]Sounds like she is definitely worth a repeat.

One of the girls I am working on to be a regular in Makati clamps down so hard on my hand that it hurts for 3 days and I have to forgo any racket sports for a week. But well worth it when compared to a nervous ex-virgin (alleged) I am also training.

Good to know (but bad for you Jack!) that the reputation of FL Viets as robotic starfish isn't limited to geographical region (see the Singapore board for all the complaints). Strangely enough, my experiences with Viets in the Macau saunas have ranged from average to fantastic, odd considering they can't say no.

[QUOTE=Chantik; 1494950]Jack.

Think that if prices are unaffordable uou could try QV, especially if you go before Midnight. Prices tend to be more realistic. And you can often catch a lady during the day. A number of helpers have midweek holidays and are often in QV or OCH.[/QUOTE]QV = Queen Vic?

OCH =?

Thanks

[QUOTE
Tough one. Bad luck. Should have taken a pic and posted it. Names do not mean anything because they change it so often.[/QUOTE]

Never thought about that. Good idea. Will remember that for the future. May well bump into her again in one of the bars and its easy to get photos these days.

[QUOTE=LongLunches;1494901]I thought later on a Sunday night was still good and a lot of fun. I haven't experienced it myself but am back in HK soon and am free from also about Sun 10pm and was hoping there would still be plenty of girls available.[/QUOTE]Not my experience last Sunday and by 10. 00pm most had gone unless I was looking in the wrong places. Chantik might be able to confirm or otherwise.

[QUOTE=LongLunches; 1495128]QV = Queen Vic?

OCH =?

Thanks[/QUOTE]OCH = Old China Hand

First, thanks very much for all your wisdom here. I just spent 36-ish hours in Hong Kong, and the knowledge I gained from this forum was invaluable to make this visit as fruitful as possible. I am not sure if I have much to give in return, but here's my attempt. I think this is my first time posting here, so be gentle with me.

Saturday night:

I stayed in Wan Chai, and it was well past 10 pm. When I arrived at the hotel from the airport. I cleaned myself up from a long flight and headed out to Sham Shui Po for some 141 action. I ended up with going with this lady on s*x141. Older and not as pretty as the photo suggests but made up with an excellent service. She let me video the act, took a facial for $350. Very tight as well.

By the time I was out of her room, there was no more MTR. I stopped few taxis who weren't willing to cross the harbor but lucked out with my 3rd. I read since that you were to make wavy motion with your hand if were to stop a cab who's willing to go across the harbor. Normal fare + $20 for crossing the harbor. Traffic was light. No biggie.

Visited new Makati, probably 1:30-ish. Wasn't asked a $500 door fee that I read about here before. I was a bit worried about this as I am an Asian. Entered and stayed for 2 beers. The place seems to be going under a renovation and was quite small. I stood there drinking beer just thinking,"well, this isn't my thing." I am quite bad at letting myself go, but it was fun nevertheless to look at pretty girls. Maybe I'll look for people to hang out with next time.

After Makati, I finished my night with a 24-hour Thai massage place along the Lockhart Road. Had some challenge fending off the lady who wants to come with me to my hotel, but it was all in good fun.

I'll post about Sunday later.

[QUOTE=Jackthelad2; 1494620]Took a walk down to Wanchai about 10. 00pm. Called in at NM. Half empty and very few girls. Carried on to Neptune 111 which was fairly busy. Lots of Vietnamese plying their wares but at ridiculous prices. The cheapest quote was $2000. Went over to Escape. More guys than girls. Frightened to ask the costs there from what I read in previous posts. Had a look in Insider. Almost empty. HK Café next and again half empty. Plenty of Vietnamese around and one takes my fancy but prices herself out of the market at $2000 for an hour.

[snip]

Amazonia is packed at 3. 00pm and a few girls are still free and available. I was quoted $4000 from one girl from Thailand, another wanted $2000.

I cut my losses and walk home.

Tomorrow it's got to be room service from my Chinese massage girl from previous visits. These prices are hard to justify. The Navy is still in town but they were not on the streets at that time. Sam, the manager in Neptune 111 tells me Monday is their last night. Maybe the prices will drop to more reasonable amounts when they go.[/QUOTE]These prices and the 1500 HKG you agreed upon are in the ballpark of many higher end quotes in Singapore & Western countries like Canada.

I wonder if the PI girls have been kicked out of town & with the Navy there it may be more of a seller's market ATM in these type of joints in HKG.

In Thailand it is not unusual for the working girls to start with a ridiculously high quote with the hope of reeling in a sucker or as an initial bargaining point. You could respond with 1000 & she drop from 4000 to 3000 etc. I don't know about HKG or Vietnam, but in Siam most everything can be bartered.

[QUOTE=Boarer; 1495046]Sounds like she is definitely worth a repeat.

One of the girls I am working on to be a regular in Makati clamps down so hard on my hand that it hurts for 3 days and I have to forgo any racket sports for a week. But well worth it when compared to a nervous ex-virgin (alleged) I am also training.[/QUOTE]Was she the virgin who had a baby. More than one of them around.

And the navy has left town.

[QUOTE=Chantik;1495459]Was she the virgin who had a baby. More than one of them around.[/QUOTE]Ain't touching that with a ten foot pole. I will get flamed from more than one source. LOL!

FWIW, some of the stories I hear will put Scheherazade to shame. I take what the ladies tell me at face value but form my decisions based on the evidence and facts available. In this case it is 50 50. But who cares. Its a nice clean shaved tight one and just the right size! And I can say I went over book for this year.

[QUOTE=Jackthelad2;1495173]Not my experience last Sunday and by 10. 00pm most had gone unless I was looking in the wrong places. Chantik might be able to confirm or otherwise.[/QUOTE]IMHO, the WGs dominate from 8pm onwards at the places I frequent. The DH I know who can stay out overnight are getting to be fewer and fewer. But then again, I do not go to Wanchai that much. I might suggest the curtained places because I noticed the quality has improved recently. There are also plenty of regular girls around in places like LKF whereby one has to invest in drinks and flash and time to score.

[QUOTE=Jackthelad2;1495169]May well bump into her again in one of the bars and its easy to get photos these days.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Zeppelin029;1495113]Good to know (but bad for you Jack!) that the reputation of FL Viets as robotic starfish isn't limited to geographical region (see the Singapore board for all the complaints). Strangely enough, my experiences with Viets in the Macau saunas have ranged from average to fantastic, odd considering they can't say no.[/QUOTE]Like fresh produce, the ones picked close to the place of production are the sweetest and ripest. One also has a wider selection. I would suggest you guys make some side trips. Happy hunting! Be safe out there.

The bad weather made me run late and I did not finish business until after 10. 00pm. Made my way to Wanchai about 10. 30pm via the massage place in Hennessy Road I visited earlier but the young girl I had on my previous visit looked really tired and worn out so I passed. Working too hard I guess.

Streets are almost empty. It's Tuesday. It's raining and the navy is away as Sam predicted. I go to Neptune 111 for a few beers and am eventually joined by Kyla, a 27 year old Filipina. Small but very neat and good company. We have a few drinks and I negotiate $1500 for LT. We leave just after 1. 00am. I am optimistic of the night ahead. My Vietnamese girl makes an appearance but just glares at me. I am tempted to take a photo of her but am persuaded not to. What is done is done. She looks good as well with a tight red figure hugging dress and her long hair down to her waist.

Back to the hotel, shower and things are looking good if not spectacular and we fall asleep after a short exploratory tryst. She turns out to be a bit of hard work but no real complaints. Her alarm goes off at 4. 00am and she apologises that she has to go to Amazonia at 5. 00am to redeem her drinks vouchers otherwise she loses them, but that she will be back. Foolishly, I pay her the agreed $1500 and of course that is the last I see of her as she texts that she is tired and has gone home. Never occurred to me just to give her half and the other half when she returned.

That's life and you learn a lesson every day.

As I am writing this Brenda, the nympho, texts me and we arrange a meeting for 2. 00pm when she finishes work. Could be a better start to the rest of the week.

[QUOTE=Boarer; 1495522]I might suggest the curtained places because I noticed the quality has improved recently.

I would suggest you guys make some side trips. Happy hunting! Be safe out there.[/QUOTE]I think the curtained places are still a bit of a rip-off but would agree quality better than in the past,

As regards side trips, here is a true story. 4 guys go off for a golfing holiday in Spain flying from the UK. They ditch their golf gear in the airport left luggage and fly to Bangkok. One of them takes a heart attack and dies. Believe me, he was the lucky one. Explain that to the wife. Hence the reason I take no side trips.

[QUOTE=Jackthelad2; 1495666]I think the curtained places are still a bit of a rip-off but would agree quality better than in the past,

As regards side trips, here is a true story. 4 guys go off for a golfing holiday in Spain flying from the UK. They ditch their golf gear in the airport left luggage and fly to Bangkok. One of them takes a heart attack and dies. Believe me, he was the lucky one. Explain that to the wife. .[/QUOTE]Remember when the airport in BKK was blocked by demonstrators. There were Malaysians and Singaporeans who were in deep deep kimchee. As in supposed to be somewhere but somewhere else. I heard one story of a guy renting a taxi, he and taxi driver (who had to make a stop to get his passport) took turns driving it, took him 24 hours to get Bangkok to Kl. He was 8 hours late in getting home from his supposed trip to Singapore. And US$ 1000 lighter.

The alternative. Ditch the wife. LOL.

Hey all,

I'll be in HK this weekend, and I'm trying to see if there's any place where you actually see all the girls available and can pick out the one you want at a spa or massage place. I've been to places in Thailand where they have the fishbowl girls, and hoping HK might have a spot like that.

Last time in HK I only did the 141 apartments and trying to check out something new.

Thanks!

[QUOTE=FreebieFan; 1495686]He was 8 hours late in getting home from his supposed trip to Singapore. And US$ 1000 lighter.

The alternative. Ditch the wife. LOL.[/QUOTE]On the long run the alternative might have been cheaper.

[QUOTE=FreebieFan;1495686]Remember when the airport in BKK was blocked by demonstrators. There were Malaysians and Singaporeans who were in deep deep kimchee. As in supposed to be somewhere but somewhere else. I heard one story of a guy renting a taxi, he and taxi driver (who had to make a stop to get his passport) took turns driving it, took him 24 hours to get Bangkok to Kl. He was 8 hours late in getting home from his supposed trip to Singapore. And US$ 1000 lighter.[/QUOTE]Not too bad; about the cost of business / first class ticket. Don't think he was thinking clearly. Depending of his passport, he could have just gone to Phuket and flown to KL or Singapore. In Singapore, he could have feigned a trip extension.

[QUOTE=Jackthelad2; 1495666]I think the curtained places are still a bit of a rip-off but would agree quality better than in the past,

As regards side trips, here is a true story. 4 guys go off for a golfing holiday in Spain flying from the UK. They ditch their golf gear in the airport left luggage and fly to Bangkok. One of them takes a heart attack and dies. Believe me, he was the lucky one. Explain that to the wife. Hence the reason I take no side trips.[/QUOTE]At the prices you are paying, you should give the curtained places a shot. Think with your head and treat it as a business deal with a CSR and don't buy ladies drinks. Or follow Brown Rails advice and do DIA.

Think the moral of the story should be do not behave like a ADHD kid in a candy store; the store is always open and one can return later to get more. Had one young dude take 3 girls and sequestered himself in a room for 2 days. He looked really haggard on the plane ride while the rest of us look revitalized.

[QUOTE=Boarer;1495780]At the prices you are paying, you should give the curtained places a shot. Think with your head and treat it as a business deal with a CSR and don't buy ladies drinks. Or follow Brown Rails advice and do DIA.[/QUOTE]Correction Boarer. At the prices you are being "asked" would be more correct. I don't pay the inflated prices but it seems now the norm is $1000/$1500.

Tried DIA but there is no way I am providing a photo on the internet.

Anyway, my faith is slightly restored in that my nympho has just left me after an afternoon 3 hour, non stop, exhausting, sweat inducing, all positions, thoroughly enjoyable exercise which has left me totally knackered and fit for nothing. I have the hair dryer on the bed trying to dry off some left over body fluids. And all at the DH rate.

[QUOTE=Jackthelad2; 1495784]Correction Boarer. At the prices you are being "asked" would be more correct. I don't pay the inflated prices but it seems now the norm is $1000/$1500.

Tried DIA but there is no way I am providing a photo on the internet.

Anyway, my faith is slightly restored in that my nympho has just left me after an afternoon 3 hour, non stop, exhausting, sweat inducing, all positions, thoroughly enjoyable exercise which has left me totally knackered and fit for nothing. I have the hair dryer on the bed trying to dry off some left over body fluids. And all at the DH rate.[/QUOTE]Never tried DIA myself. No time.

Good for you on your nympho. You now have 2 back up plans! LOL.

[QUOTE=Jackthelad2; 1495784]Correction Boarer. At the prices you are being "asked" would be more correct. I don't pay the inflated prices but it seems now the norm is $1000/$1500.

Tried DIA but there is no way I am providing a photo on the internet.

Anyway, my faith is slightly restored in that my nympho has just left me after an afternoon 3 hour, non stop, exhausting, sweat inducing, all positions, thoroughly enjoyable exercise which has left me totally knackered and fit for nothing. I have the hair dryer on the bed trying to dry off some left over body fluids. And all at the DH rate.[/QUOTE]I really believe now that the highest density of nymphos in the world can be found among Indonesians.

Hey all,

Long time lurker and will be back in HK again this weekend. Last time I was here I only went to the 141 apartments. Had a great time there, but looking to see if there's any place in HK where I can choose a lineup of girls. I've been to places in Thailand that offers that and hoping for the same in HK!

Looking for Spa / Massage place that lets you pick the girl.

Tiger says that Indo's are nympho's. 100% correct.

Jack. Ladies may need to change drink commissions at a certain time each day. Though it doesn't have to e at the same time. Or no-one ladies would go L / T.

Tried qq worldfriends a couple of times,

Many Philippine and Indonesia domestic helpers there online.

Never failed to get some horny freebies in Hong kong from this site, and some are really nymphos.

Just back from Hong kong and spend a whole day with one Philippine girl, who I contaced around 3 weeks ago, she only had Sunday daytime off from work, was totally bored in her job and hot as hell. 27 years, married with 2 kids back in Manila.

But she said she need it sometimes, which I was happy to give her.

She came to my hotel room after breakfast and stayed until 10pm and left me "empty".

I am not the youngest anymore and lucky I brought my blue pills, so I could satisfy this girl over 12 hours.

So fare out of 7 times I had scored 6 times with a philippine worker in Hong kong, and never payed a dollar for her.

Dating sites do work.

The last one still sending me fotos of herself masturbating, haha.

Tijuana

[QUOTE=Boarer; 1495788]Never tried DIA myself. No time.

Good for you on your nympho. You now have 2 back up plans! LOL.[/QUOTE]

Indo girls are great! I love them.

The same old routine is followed tonight and I take the 10 minute walk down towards Wan Chai shortly after 10. 00pm. I know this will be a quiet night for me and that I will return empty-handed, even if I am offered a freebie from Miss Philippines or Miss Thailand or any other Miss for that matter. The body can only take so much and mine has had 6 months of sexual activity rolled into 3 hours this afternoon.

First stop for a beer is Joe Bananas – reasonably busy but the guys far outnumber the few girls that are there. Next stop NM. Half full and mainly girls on the dance floor entertaining the watching audience. A couple of Filipinas are friendly and under different circumstances might have been worthy of consideration but at $2000 each for a twosome that was proposed, would have needed the negotiating skills of Henry Kissinger.

Neptune 111 is next and after a few beers in comes my disappearing girl from last night. Looking very presentable and attractive. She sits beside me as if nothing had happened. She apologises profusely for last night but she was tired. She cuddles up and hopes I will forgive her and take her home. For research purposes I raise the question of money and she quote $1500! We agree to part on the best of terms and that tomorrow night is another day. I'm off and true to my earlier decision, go home alone for a well earned sleep.

Neptune 111 was busy with a steady flow in and out. Some new stunning talent on show. Did another boat come in from Vietnam? On that subject I got another withering look from my Vietnamese friend from a few days ago.

The streets are quiet at 12. 30pm.

[QUOTE=Jackthelad2;1495919]A couple of Filipinas are friendly and under different circumstances might have been worthy of consideration but at $2000 each for a twosome that was proposed, would have needed the negotiating skills of Henry Kissinger.[/QUOTE]Been some time since I was in town. I had a free night and checked out the area here in TST last night. Started at Sticky Fingers for the tunes and the first band was pretty good but not the second. Saw a few WG's there but they didn't look all that interesting to me so I headed out. After a good walk around and NOT getting accosted by more than 1 massage offering (that in itself seemed strange to me) , I finally stopped in at Hari's to see what's up. Same old tired format of the band. No lounge lizards at midnight, just a handful of guys. Some "mature" ladies were at the bar watching me like vultures. I chatted with a Mongolian to see the pricing. She was asking 2000! Yikes, for someone in her 40's especially. She wouldn't budge below 1500 so I cut her loose. The $99 fee for a single JW Black on the rocks came, and that ended my association with Hari's. Sheesh.

Should we engage Mr Kissinger to hold a course in negotiating with WG's? I'd show up for that!

TT

[QUOTE=The Tanuki;1496112]The $99 fee for a single JW Black on the rocks came, and that ended my association with Hari's. Sheesh.[/QUOTE]Unfortunately some places charge that much for a beer.

[QUOTE=Jackthelad2;1495919]The body can only take so much and mine has had 6 months of sexual activity rolled into 3 hours this afternoon.[/QUOTE]Sympathize with you. For various reasons and circumstances, ended up arranging 3 meets starting at 9A last Sunday. On my way to the last one, she texts that she wants 5 rounds with me. Sheezee. She would be lucky if I can pull 1 out of the hat with copious amounts of coaxing! This one is getting a dildo for Christmas. I am just not up for job! LOL

Sunday.

I read several posts recommending to use Tagged to hook up with DH prior to visit. Excellent advice! I followed that advice and had lined up 3 who were willing to meet up with me. My Sunday started with DH #1. Met & talked but she didn't tickle my fancy. So we just hang for few hours, thanked for her time and parted.

I then headed out to James Lee building in TST around 3 pm. Took the lift to the 7th floor. Many rooms already had "please wait" signs. I found one with "welcome," and as I was about to ring the doorbell, the girl / lady opens the door and invite me in. Rm D Flat 701. She looked pretty, so I went along. After Saturday's experience, I was ready for a looker. This turned out to be a bad decision, however. She costed more than twice as much as Saturday but the service was 3 times worse. While her face was okay, the body wasn't great. Sex was outright horrible. Her focus was on finishing me off-stimulate with hand, cap on, squat down but only take in the top, move quickly to get me off.

I ended up checking her review on 141 site afterwords and kicked myself for not doing my research. There was a review in English that I can actually read, and he had experienced the same level of service. Doing well with 141 is hard. You need to be pretty organized and do a lot of research before walking out on the street or you'll be struggling with your iPhone to find out about the girl whose door you are about to ring (with a reading glass on if you are old like me). I still have a lot to learn.

I was scheduled to meet DH #2 early evening. She brought a friend along so three of us ended up having a dinner and a drink together. We just had a friendly chat but the things progressed rather quickly after the dinner. The friend was gone, and she and I were in my hotel room in no time. Wow. It appears that she was quite tired of other Tagged contact who are too transparent about the fact that he's there just to get quick sex. Being patient and taking time to listening to her seems to have worked. She also did have interesting stories to tell, so I genuinely enjoyed the conversation. Many employers seems to not treat DH with basic courtesy and respect, and she probably appreciated that I did.

I reached out to DH #3 after sending DH #2 home in time or slightly after her curfew, but DH #3 and I couldn't get in touch with each other. This wasn't a problem for me. I was so tired from above and was ready to hit the sack.

So for a newbie to a HK scene, I think I did pretty well. I really did not expect that I'd have a success with a non-pro DH. Thanks for sharing your knowledge.

In the photo gallery, Boeing787 posted some pics of an Indonesian who now works in the Fuji Building in CWB.

Found her on 6 / F. Her "name" is Gigi. She is everything B787 said she was and more.

Great BBBJ and DT. Laid back attitude and makes conversation. Willing to take CIM / COF but not swallow, but I didn't get the chance because I couldn't hold it while she was grinding and bouncing in CG. In CG she ground herself into me and came 5 times (no exaggeration) , the 5th time was when I couldn't hold back and we came together, so I'll have to repeat so I can server her up a milkshake. She liked it hard fast and rough and wasn't shy about telling me so-she said "I want a nice husband but I don't want a nice guy to fuck me, I want a real bastard to fuck me." LOL She wanted me to smack her ass or squeeze it hard, pull her hair and push her around, and loved doggy.

She seems just a little but heavier than in the posted pics though. I didn't mention it but she said she wanted to get back in shape, she'd been back in Indonesia and had been eating all her favorite foods.

She was willing to talk about the business side of things which has always fascinated me. I wonder how the people who run the 141 buildings don't get arrested given that it is illegal to live off of the earnings of a prostitute, but she didn't know. She entered into a sham marriage to get her residency. She and her boss have some formula for splitting up the proceeds but she said she typically makes about 40% on an average of 100K / month. She said her boss treats her very well but she has no idea about any other girls or their arrangements. She doesn't talk to the Chinese girls because "they're all bitches." She told me all Indonesian girls are nymphos and love fucking, as if we didn't know that already.

Highly recommended!

[QUOTE=Thomas Jefferson; 1495896]Tried qq worldfriends a couple of times,

Many Philippine and Indonesia domestic helpers there online.

Never failed to get some horny freebies in Hong kong from this site, and some are really nymphos.

Just back from Hong kong and spend a whole day with one Philippine girl, who I contaced around 3 weeks ago, she only had Sunday daytime off from work, was totally bored in her job and hot as hell. 27 years, married with 2 kids back in Manila.

But she said she need it sometimes, which I was happy to give her.

She came to my hotel room after breakfast and stayed until 10pm and left me "empty".

I am not the youngest anymore and lucky I brought my blue pills, so I could satisfy this girl over 12 hours.

So fare out of 7 times I had scored 6 times with a philippine worker in Hong kong, and never payed a dollar for her.

Dating sites do work.

The last one still sending me fotos of herself masturbating, haha.

Tijuana[/QUOTE]Do you post pictures of yourself on the dating sites? I don't put pictures of myself online for any reason even on non-sexy sites like Facebook. I think it's dangerous. Just my opinion.

[QUOTE=Chantik; 1495886]Tiger says that Indo's are nympho's. 100% correct.

Jack. Ladies may need to change drink commissions at a certain time each day. Though it doesn't have to e at the same time. Or no-one ladies would go L / T.[/QUOTE]Why are Indos such nymphos?

[QUOTE=Johnny Rocket;1496207]Why are Indos such nymphos?[/QUOTE]Have you never met an Indo who would always try to squeeze one more shot out of you than you can handle?

[QUOTE=Johnny Rocket; 1496205]In the photo gallery, Boeing787 posted some pics of an Indonesian who now works in the Fuji Building in CWB.

Found her on 6 / F. Her "name" is Gigi.

Great BBBJShe was willing to talk about the business side of things which has always fascinated me. I wonder how the people who run the 141 buildings don't get arrested given that it is illegal to live off of the earnings of a prostitute, but she didn't know. She entered into a sham marriage to get her residency. She and her boss have some formula for splitting up the proceeds but she said she typically makes about 40% on an average of 100K / month. She said her boss treats her very well but she has no idea about any other girls or their arrangements. She doesn't talk to the Chinese girls because "they're all bitches."

Highly recommended![/QUOTE]Johnny, don't you think, if a young aspiring eager to get promoted Immigration official was reading this, that he would have all the details he needed to do a raid on said lady. Hopefully the info you have wasnt quite correct, otherwise you may have landed her with a big problem. Details on our forurms are good, but not too many details are required where it might affect livelihoods.

[QUOTE=FreebieFan;1496221]Johnny, don't you think, if a young aspiring eager to get promoted Immigration official was reading this, that he would have all the details he needed to do a raid on said lady. Hopefully the info you have wasnt quite correct, otherwise you may have landed her with a big problem. Details on our forurms are good, but not too many details are required where it might affect livelihoods.[/QUOTE]You are right. Is there any way I can edit my post? I don't see this option anywhere. I only see the option for posts I made during this login, but not previous logins.

[QUOTE=Tiger 888;1496215]Have you never met an Indo who would always try to squeeze one more shot out of you than you can handle?[/QUOTE]Yes but WHY are they such nymphos?

[QUOTE=Johnny Rocket;1496265]Yes but WHY are they such nymphos?[/QUOTE]Good question and seems also the philipina are not much different. Even If WG a lot seems to enjoy sex with their customers.

How comes?

Possibly JR put too much info in his post, but Police know about these buildings and Immigration know about sham marriages.

The horny Indo Girl. Bit of a makeover and she should go independent. More money to be made.

You need to ask God / Allah why Indo's are so horny. And I stress this applies also to guys.

Hi,

I hope someone in the know can answer, perhaps Chantik?

Suppose a Thai lady wants to visit HK to do some escorting.

I assume, that entering HK as a visitor is no problem, as long as no employment in HK is sought.

Questions:

1. How long is such a visa valid?

My entry stamps to HK show 90 days, but then I am not a pretty Thai lady and maybe they don't get to stay that long.

2. Assuming departure before that (90 day?) period expires, how long, before a renewed entry to HK is possible?

Thanks for your info.

DS

[QUOTE=Chantik; 1496276]Possibly JR put too much info in his post, but Police know about these buildings and Immigration know about sham marriages.

The horny Indo Girl. Bit of a makeover and she should go independent. More money to be made.

You need to ask God / Allah why Indo's are so horny. And I stress this applies also to guys.[/QUOTE]Even so I want to play it safe. I used the "Report Post" feature to report myself and ask that Jackson delete that paragraph, as well as in another post where it was quoted.

[QUOTE=Daddy San; 1496296]Hi,

I hope someone in the know can answer, perhaps Chantik?
Suppose a Thai lady wants to visit HK to do some escorting.
I assume, that entering HK as a visitor is no problem, as long as no employment in HK is sought.

Questions:
1. How long is such a visa valid?
My entry stamps to HK show 90 days, but then I am not a pretty Thai lady and maybe they don't get to stay that long.
2. Assuming departure before that (90 day?) period expires, how long, before a renewed entry to HK is possible?

Thanks for your info.
DS[/QUOTE]Visitor status for Thailand is 30 days. Doing escorting as a visitor is illegal work and she will get deported if caught. Re entering will give you a new full period. It may or may not work once or twice. Depending which country you come from it may or may not work more often. I have done it for more than a year through weekly exits in the early 90s. Today it seems to be way more restricted. It is all at the discretion of the officer in charge.

Not really a lot to report for Thursday night as I could not get away until after 11. 00pm and I simply went to Neptune! Where I met Kyla from the previous night. A few drinks and then back to the hotel for what I could say was a reasonable night only. She is still hard work, harder in the morning so I will not be repeating. Maybe I'm still shag-lagged from my nympho.

I did look into QV and OAH on my way to Neptune. A friend told me that there was the odd WG in these places but my timing must have been out as I never saw any.

Neptune 111 was fairly busy when I was there and plenty available girls plying their trade but there is a real problem now about what punters will have to pay. Gone are the days of the sub $1000 deals unless you get a DH in which case there is the chance of a freebie.

[QUOTE=Johnny Rocket;1496206]Do you post pictures of yourself on the dating sites? I don't put pictures of myself online for any reason even on non-sexy sites like Facebook. I think it's dangerous. Just my opinion.[/QUOTE]It is dangerous but only if you are up to no good and lets face it, most mongerers have something to hide. Pictures on one site can appear on a variety of different ones without you doing anything and if you have anything to hide, you could easily be caught out. Playing safe is the only option. LE regularly find and get loads of information from photos if they are looking for something / somebody. There is extremely powerful image recognition software out there.

[QUOTE=Jackthelad2;1496461]It is dangerous but only if you are up to no good and lets face it, most mongerers have something to hide. Pictures on one site can appear on a variety of different ones without you doing anything and if you have anything to hide, you could easily be caught out. There is extremely powerful image recognition software out there.[/QUOTE]I signed up as a member of a dating site, uploaded the pic and all was fine. Till 6 months later when a lady I was seeing advised me that my pic was on 3 African dating sites. Which is interesting as I hadn't been nor intended on going anywhere near Africa.

And remember, that whatever nickname you use on monger sites, should be DIFFERENT to the nicks you use on other sites. One name check and all your history is visible.

[QUOTE=Jackthelad2;1496460]Not really a lot to report for Thursday night as I could not get away until after 11. 00pm and I simply went to Neptune! Where I met Kyla from the previous night. A few drinks and then back to the hotel for what I could say was a reasonable night only. She is still hard work, harder in the morning so I will not be repeating. Maybe I'm still shag-lagged from my nympho.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the updates JLT.

Are you bar hopping by yourself, or with a mate.

I always find it less fun by yourself.

Just interested.

[QUOTE=Johnny Rocket;1496264]You are right. Is there any way I can edit my post? I don't see this option anywhere. I only see the option for posts I made during this login, but not previous logins.[/QUOTE]Read online that many have posted complaints / warnings about losing control over one's posts and pictures once posted on ISG. Think only the moderators can delete / withdraw posts / pictures. I found I have a 1-2 hour window to edit my posts.

FWIW, there are many sham marriages for WGs. Some WGs cannot go through with it but instead opt for a sham DH contract (less often because of the consequences for the resident). Think your girl is fine, as the former is hard to prove, and, if anything, will experience a sudden upsurge in business! LOL JTL might knock on her door and arrange a late night hotel visit.

From what I read in the papers, it looks like LEO goes after the easier cases of overstayers. More bang for the buck. Relax, pay her another visit to help sooth your conscience.

China has armies of hackers with enough software talents, that if they decide to track down anonymous posters in the net, they have the abilities to trace various footprints in the internet and identify the culprits. Chinese people who post dissenting views in the net are mostly under surveillance, sometimes harassed or arrested.

Various hardware and software manufacturers actually assist China's security police to screen, track, trace, identify and control any snippets of info flowing in their networks.

In the US, the FBI has a special internet unit that can identify any offensive parties by tracing emails and posts through all servers they went through, even anonymous proxies, to find real identities.

If China can hack into the Pentagon's and defense contractors' high-security servers, it can break open any servers in the net. Just be careful.

[QUOTE=BionicMan; 1496268]Good question and seems also the philipina are not much different. Even If WG a lot seems to enjoy sex with their customers.

How comes?[/QUOTE]That sounds like a good masters thesis subject. Hahaha!

But really, in the end do you really care why? Let's just enjoy them and get OUR brains fucked out!

TT

[QUOTE=FreebieFan;1496475]I signed up as a member of a dating site, uploaded the pic and all was fine. Till 6 months later when a lady I was seeing advised me that my pic was on 3 African dating sites. Which is interesting as I hadn't been nor intended on going anywhere near Africa.[/QUOTE]Exactly what I was alluding to in my post. One photo can go round the world without you knowing.

Think that some information is best sent by PM.

Big difference discussing various types of tourist visa's and the rest.

The idea behind QV and OCH is to drop in during the day (maybe have lunch) and get numbers and arrange meetings.

[QUOTE=Johnny Rocket;1496206]Do you post pictures of yourself on the dating sites? I don't put pictures of myself online for any reason even on non-sexy sites like Facebook. I think it's dangerous. Just my opinion.[/QUOTE]I use some fotos, but not really clear, just some fotos from far away, so girls can see me, but no one really can say that is me, only if chat longer they will get a clear foto of myself.

[QUOTE=Tiger 888;1496406]Visitor status for Thailand is 30 days. Doing escorting as a visitor is illegal work and she will get deported if caught. Re entering will give you a new full period. It may or may not work once or twice. Depending which country you come from it may or may not work more often. I have done it for more than a year through weekly exits in the early 90s. Today it seems to be way more restricted. It is all at the discretion of the officer in charge.[/QUOTE]Thanks Tiger,

That is more or less what I expected.

Chantik,

[quote]Think that some information is best sent by PM.[/quote]If you have more info on the subject, I'd appreciate your PM.

DS

[QUOTE]JTL might knock on her door and arrange a late night hotel visit.[/QUOTE]Did think about it but I bet there is a queue at the door now. Nothing like free publicity.

Work keeps me late again and I follow the yellow brick road to the usual haunts just after 11. 00pm I look into QV and OCH when passing but there are no WG's there. (When I pass by again at 1. 30am, there is not one person in OCH). Neptune 111 is my first stop. It's busy and I am no sooner at the bar when limpet Kyla comes over. I tell her I am having a quiet night, confirming an earlier text to her, and an embarrassing silence ensues only broken by monosyllabic questions and answers. She eventually leaves for Amazonia and I have a feeling that will be the last I see and / or hear from her. Breaking up is hard to do. Bea from a few nights ago makes an appearance and I discover she smokes. That's a turn off for me and we just exchange pleasantries before she leaves. All the time I am sitting beside a girl on her own minding her own business and we start up a conversation. It's like drawing teeth and I give in. Manager Sam puts up a drink just as I am about to leave and I sat for another 10 minutes people watching. The place is busy with more girls that guys, and a steady stream of newly met couples leave for hopefully a good time.

I try Insiders for a change. Fairly empty but a few FL's around. A tall slim Colombian sidles over and her first words are will I buy her a drink. No prizes for the answer. A slim Columbian?

NM next. The dance floor is packed with girls having a good time watching themselves dancing in the mirrors. Nothing takes my fancy.

Nympho Brenda texts me but I am just not up for a shift with her again.

The streets are busy.

I try Hong Kong café. The all-girl band is entertaining the customers and there is a fair amount of talent on show but I think I am still suffering from shag-lag and decide on an early night on my own. Saved a fortune.

My street cred with the maid will be going down when she sees only half the bed used and a full set of towels unused.

[QUOTE=Johnny Rocket;1496264]You are right. Is there any way I can edit my post? I don't see this option anywhere. I only see the option for posts I made during this login, but not previous logins.[/QUOTE]Relax, there are no public servants ion Hong Kong who will read this unless specifically instructed to do so, they hate work and will not go looking for it. Different if some punter saw the post and dobbed it in, then it is an official complaint.

[QUOTE=FreebieFan;1496221]Johnny, don't you think, if a young aspiring eager to get promoted Immigration official was reading this, that he would have all the details he needed to do a raid on said lady. Hopefully the info you have wasnt quite correct, otherwise you may have landed her with a big problem. Details on our forurms are good, but not too many details are required where it might affect livelihoods.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=AussieDoug;1496892]Relax, there are no public servants ion Hong Kong who will read this unless specifically instructed to do so, they hate work and will not go looking for it. Different if some punter saw the post and dobbed it in, then it is an official complaint.[/QUOTE][blue]Hey AussieDoug,

Thanks for bringing some much needed sanity to this completely idiotic assumption.

Jackson[/blue]

Compared to your previous reports Jack, you don't appear to be having as much luck as previously.

Hope it's just a momentary dip in luck in Wan Chai.

[QUOTE=Zeppelin029; 1497117]Compared to your previous reports Jack, you don't appear to be having as much luck as previously.

Hope it's just a momentary dip in luck in Wan Chai.[/QUOTE]You are probably right but you make your own luck. The place is changing as are the prices, but I've gone from one extreme to the other. Nympho Brenda was too much to handle to be honest whereas limpet Kyla was hard work. A happy medium is what I am looking for. However, overall, its still a great place. I still have a few hours here and my Chinese massage girl is coming over in the afternoon to say goodbye. Thanks for your interest.

Work took me over to Kowloon and, having read a report about Moonbeam Village a few weeks ago, I decided to try it out. Finding it was the first problem, but eventually I found a massage place on the 1st floor at the correct address but it was packed at 2. 00pm and nobody spoke any English. I now note from the internet that maybe I should have been on the 3rd floor. The girls I saw were not particularly appealing and a choice would have been out of the question bearing in mind how busy they were. I might have been in the wrong place as there was no signage for 'Moonbeam Village'. I left politely saying I would be back. I won't be.

At night, I was making my way along Wanchai Road and passed the massage place I visited last year near to the Charterhouse Hotel. I was tempted and went in. I was the only one there at 11. 00pm and there was only one girl there. I use the term 'girl' loosely as I find it difficult to tell ages, and with Chinese girls even more difficult. Let's give her the benefit if the doubt and say she was about 30. No English spoken but it was not difficult to agree what was available. 45 minutes later and I was out. The massage was crap but the exploration of the masseuse and the HE was good enough. I paid $600. Don't tell me. I overpaid, I know.

Decided to have an early night (two in a row) which is only compensated by the huge financial savings.

I am halfway between Jackson's view there is nothing to worry about and the other view that we should be cautious.

I was reading an article last night in the Sydney Morning Herald (Aussie Paper) where they listed 3 punting review forums that authorities had used to find illegal establishments. I understand that Oz has more legal places, and therefore go hard on illegal places. But the fact is that LE and similar do track these forums.

And you can often communicate by PM.

Jack - So that means that you miss the maid Parade twice in a row - This is where you find certainties !

[QUOTE=Jackthelad2;1497151]You are probably right but you make your own luck. The place is changing as are the prices, but I've gone from one extreme to the other. Nympho Brenda was too much to handle to be honest whereas limpet Kyla was hard work. A happy medium is what I am looking for. However, overall, its still a great place. I still have a few hours here and my Chinese massage girl is coming over in the afternoon to say goodbye. Thanks for your interest.[/QUOTE]Concerned for the whole scene in general in anticipation of making my way back at some point!

Personally find it better value, nicer selection (can you tell the mercenary Viet girls have left a bad taste in my mouth) and nicer atmosphere than Singapore.

Alas, I need to make myself to a Sunday one of these days. The time I was there. I was in a relationship. Bleh.

LOL Chantik.

Well well well. I am now a happy, but slightly sad man. My Chinese massage girl could not make it this afternoon so I decided to call nympho Brenda. It's my last day and I have a dinner at night that I can't miss. She arrives at 2. 00pm, looking very nice and presentable. She has obviously made a big effort to please. She has succeeded. I decide she is not really that plump. Her sex drive is amazing and she just loves it. She just cannot get enough and I am struggling to satisfy her but I do try. She tells me when she met me last Sunday that was the first time she had been in a Wanchai club. She was lonely and lives in her own in an apartment provided by her employers who treat her well. She does not really know anyone. I tend to believe her. Ok, I'm a mug but there you are.

We have an hour or so of bliss and I tell her I have to go and get ready to leave. She then produces a gift for me out of the blue for making her happy. What can I say. She has tears in her eyes when she leaves. I feel a bit of a heel.

I'm now in the airport lounge waiting on my flight. I know from experience, she will just be a nice memory in a few days and that I will probably be the same to her. Hong Kong is still great. I love it.

Take care out there folks.

First visit there recently. Question: Are K-Pressure and 37 Dundas the same place? Sorry if this is naive. I have read conflicting info on this forum, so would love clarification.

Walked up to second floor, got myself a nice karaoke room. Introduced to a lovely Cambodian girl, probably 25, tall, exquisite B cups (my type) , shockingly good English. Went upstairs to fourth floor, washed up, joked around a bit, a little BBBJ, cover on, then multiple positions. Semi-GFE. Not as tight as some others I have seen. Chatted and joked around some more before washing up and leaving.

Damage was 440 + 120 for the room.

[QUOTE=Jackthelad2; 1497370]Well well well. I am now a happy, but slightly sad man. I tend to believe her. Ok, I'm a mug but there you are.

We have an hour or so of bliss and I tell her I have to go and get ready to leave. She then produces a gift for me out of the blue for making her happy. What can I say. She has tears in her eyes when she leaves. I feel a bit of a heel.

I'm now in the airport lounge waiting on my flight. I know from experience, she will just be a nice memory in a few days and that I will probably be the same to her. Hong Kong is still great. I love it.[/QUOTE]Ah. A "happy ending" after all! Regardless of what she claims, the ultimate decision point is "was she good company?" Sounds like she will make a great plan B or C for your next visit! Look forward to your future trips!

FWIW, if you get to know her circle of friends, some are most willing to set the record straight, based on their information. Sometimes it can be quite funny and funnier if I knew their local languages when they start arguing! As you suspected, IMHO, Brenda's claims might not really hold water. But who cares, she sounds like a great catch.

[QUOTE=Texjake; 1497653]First visit there recently. Question: Are K-Pressure and 37 Dundas the same place? Sorry if this is naive. I have read conflicting info on this forum, so would love clarification.

Walked up to second floor, got myself a nice karaoke room. Introduced to a lovely Cambodian girl, probably 25, tall, exquisite B cups (my type) , shockingly good English. Went upstairs to fourth floor, washed up, joked around a bit, a little BBBJ, cover on, then multiple positions. Semi-GFE. Not as tight as some others I have seen. Chatted and joked around some more before washing up and leaving.

Damage was 440 + 120 for the room.[/QUOTE]Dundas is in dundas Street, KP is further south. After the market.

The kambodian girl sounds like dundas, at least I had one there last time.

There are a lot of places like this though. I was in a place 1 or 2 streets down of dundas. I noticed only that it was a different place when I entered the room.

The rest was the same though.

I am going to HK next month, I have never been there.

I already read many things about 141, hotel walk-in etc.

My question is simple but maybe strange for you:

I like to jerk off by myself and just watching a naked girl without too much contact with her,

Do you think it's possible to have this "service" in Hong Kong? Or the girls don't want to do this?

I don't need "discount", I can pay same price they ask for sex.

Thank you for your answer.

This shouldn't be a problem as long as you pay the agreed price.

There are a number of guys who have limited contact with ladies.

Arrived in Hong Kong Friday, evening and had one night, ONE NIGHT! to spend in Wan Chai before some friends arrived in town the next day, after which my playtime activity had to be shut down. I went out much MUCH to early, probably in anticipation, at around 9:30 or 10:00 PM and of course it was dead. I stuck around and made the rounds, but even after several hours I still just couldn't find anyone who really tickled my fancy.

On my second tour of the new Hong Kong Cafe I struck gold with a beautiful Thai girl who was friendly, affectionate and all over me from the moment I sat down a the bar. After a few more beers, we agreed on the particulars and headed out. I'm staying in Kowloon so it was a bit of a long taxi ride, but she was affectionate and playful the whole time. When we finally arrived, much to my dismay she insisted on payment up front! Ugh. I really didn't get that mercenary vibe from her in the bar, but she was insistent so I did the smart thing and sent her away with 100 for taxi fare. I was probably too generous even with that gesture, but it was already quite late and the MTR was closed, so I felt a little bad for her.

ARGHHHH!

I've got two more nights in town, but it's going to be REALLY hard to break away from my friends for any funtime; dammit! Lesson learned I guess: negotiate EVERYTHING up front, not just how much but when she gets paid.

[QUOTE=Ritr8; 1499677]I am going to HK next month, I have never been there.

I already read many things about 141, hotel walk-in etc.

My question is simple but maybe strange for you:

I like to jerk off by myself and just watching a naked girl without too much contact with her,

Do you think it's possible to have this "service" in Hong Kong? Or the girls don't want to do this?

I don't need "discount", I can pay same price they ask for sex.

Thank you for your answer.[/QUOTE]Yes, as long as you are willing to pay, the girl (s) will be more than willing to go along with your plan. You'll probably need some language skill as you'll need to negotiate with the girl what you want and how much you are willing to pay. For 141, I am guessing you should be able to pay half price if you negotiate.

I was in HK for a few days and decided to try out the hotel girls. I contacted two agents and tried a Thai and Mainland girls. Both encountered were in the TST area, one in a fairly run down hotel.

Overall great experience. I speak no Thai so it was a lot of pointing and google translating, but the girl was obliging. The second experience was very GFF. Girl didn't look that pretty when on the agent's website or when I first saw her. But she warmed up and it was a great experience. It turned out the mainland girl works in a sauna back north and know exactly how to serve me without going overboard. Both girls I picked have petite body but great tits.

I should mention that not all of these agents are honest and contact the less reputable one may lead to disappointment- like asking you to wait for a long time or switching one girl for another.

Damage is comparable to what you will pay for FS in a local sauna- 900HKD. IMHO absolutely worth it if you get the right girl / agent recommendation. I'll definitely use mine again. Cheers

[QUOTE=Mike666;1499916]Yes, as long as you are willing to pay, the girl (s) will be more than willing to go along with your plan. You'll probably need some language skill as you'll need to negotiate with the girl what you want and how much you are willing to pay. For 141, I am guessing you should be able to pay half price if you negotiate.[/QUOTE]Doubt very much that you will get half price. After all you pay for a lady's time or companionship. 2 guys knock at the door at the same time. I know which one the lady will select.

[QUOTE=Jsxyz; 1499908]Arrived in Hong Kong Friday, evening and had one night, ONE NIGHT! To spend in Wan Chai before some friends arrived in town the next day, after which my playtime activity had to be shut down. I went out much MUCH to early, probably in anticipation, at around 9:30 or 10:00 PM and of course it was dead. I stuck around and made the rounds, but even after several hours I still just couldn't find anyone who really tickled my fancy.

On my second tour of the new Hong Kong Cafe I struck gold with a beautiful Thai girl who was friendly, affectionate and all over me from the moment I sat down a the bar. After a few more beers, we agreed on the particulars and headed out. I'm staying in Kowloon so it was a bit of a long taxi ride, but she was affectionate and playful the whole time. When we finally arrived, much to my dismay she insisted on payment up front! Ugh. I really didn't get that mercenary vibe from her in the bar, but she was insistent so I did the smart thing and sent her away with 100 for taxi fare. I was probably too generous even with that gesture, but it was already quite late and the MTR was closed, so I felt a little bad for her.

ARGHHHH!

I've got two more nights in town, but it's going to be REALLY hard to break away from my friends for any funtime; dammit! Lesson learned I guess: negotiate EVERYTHING up front, not just how much but when she gets paid.[/QUOTE]I am unsure what you mean by mercenary. Especially if you live a distance away from Wanchai and its early in the morning. It's more common for the ladies to ask for money at the end of the session, though some ladies and some guys want to get the payment done before the session started. And often if your situation happens the guys negotiate to pay half up front if the lady insists on payment at the beginning.

And if you get escorts in Western countries the custom is to pay before the session starts. I still get surprised when I tour Australia and the guy gives me money at the front. And its common in these countries for guys to pay a deposit a few days before a meeting.

[QUOTE=Chantik; 1500041]I am unsure what you mean by mercenary. Especially if you live a distance away from Wanchai and its early in the morning. It's more common for the ladies to ask for money at the end of the session, though some ladies and some guys want to get the payment done before the session started. And often if your situation happens the guys negotiate to pay half up front if the lady insists on payment at the beginning.

And if you get escorts in Western countries the custom is to pay before the session starts. I still get surprised when I tour Australia and the guy gives me money at the front. And its common in these countries for guys to pay a deposit a few days before a meeting.[/QUOTE]My rule of thumb is to never pay up front in Asia, and I never have, not in a fair amount of travel to HKG, China and Vietnam. The only place I did was a high-end outcall service in Tokyo. In the USA, yes of course the rule of thumb is reversed. But in Asia my working assumption is money at the end will get me better service. You're right though, I should have offered half up front. That was the second mistake I made (after no having that whole discussion while still in Wan Chai!)

news in the south china morning post and the standard about the busting of a swingers group / fetish club in mongkok. information is a bit unclear but to do with ****, buggery (does this still exist) etc.

will be interesting to see how this ends up in court.

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Hi guys,

Back for a another trip next week.

I have a DH keen to meet in Kowloon on Monday for a couple of hours. Any good quality short time hotel in Kowloon, Kowloon Tong you can recommend please and rough cost?

I have searched but can't find anything recent.

Thanks fellow mongers.

BR. Beer? LOL

age of consent vs age of majorityso i received an infraction because i expressed interest in finding a certain age group. i read the current age of consent is actually below the 'majority legal age' which is 18. is this right? anyone know? i understand why i received an infraction, and don't want to incur more, but can anyone tell me if it's legally acceptable regarding my uncertainty of age of consent?

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greetings gentlemen,

the age of consent is the age in which girls can participate in consensual, non-commercial sex with their teen-age boyfriend without said teen-age boyfriend being charged with statutory [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url].

however, the age of consent is irrelevant to the members of this forum.

what you need to focus on is the [u]age of majority[/u], which among other things is the age in which they can vote, get married, enlist in the military, and participate in commercial sex activities.

please exercise caution and govern yourself accordingly.

thanks,

jackson[/blue]

[QUOTE=Mike666;1499916]Yes, as long as you are willing to pay, the girl (s) will be more than willing to go along with your plan. You'll probably need some language skill as you'll need to negotiate with the girl what you want and how much you are willing to pay. For 141, I am guessing you should be able to pay half price if you negotiate.[/QUOTE]It may be more helpful to negotiate with the agent instead of the girl since the girl would have to pony up the fee for each session she's booked.

The agent may (or may not) agree and have the girl prepared. This may also be a better idea since you could negotiate over the phone and not worry about wasting your time.

But if you are willing to pay full price, there's little problem. I'd expect them to want full price since negotiation is really not that common and I'm sure they don't want to start a precedent to customers requesting only showers, bjs, or touching instead of FS for a discount.

Good luck, man. You'll get anything if you're willing to pay.

[quote=random beijing; 1501688]age of consent vs age of majorityso i received an infraction because i expressed interest in finding a certain age group. i read the current age of consent is actually below the 'majority legal age' which is 18. is this right? anyone know? i understand why i received an infraction, and don't want to incur more, but can anyone tell me if it's legally acceptable regarding my uncertainty of age of consent?

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greetings gentlemen,

the age of consent is the age in which girls can participate in consensual, non-commercial sex with their teen-age boyfriend without said teen-age boyfriend being charged with statutory [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url].

however, the age of consent is irrelevant to the members of this forum.

what you need to focus on is the [u]age of majority[/u], which among other things is the age in which they can vote, get married, enlist in the military, and participate in commercial sex activities.

please exercise caution and govern yourself accordingly.

thanks,

jackson[/blue][/quote]it's an easy guideline. no references to anyone under 18 years old.

yes, the age of consent in some countries may be as low as 13, and girls can get married (in some third-world countries) while still in single-digits (i once visited burkina faso and one of the neighborhood 9-year-old girls was already married) , but a good guideline for both this website and for life in general is: only monger with girls 18 years or older! this will save you a lot of trouble in life.

Just want to report on HK having never punted here before, usually I go to Singapore. My observations are I met a nice DH filli that was hot to trot I was in bed with her 5 mins after we met Sunday morning, the DH scene is bigger than in sing and you should have dramas getting total GFE as I did. The p4p scene in HK is a bit similar to Singapore, prices seem in the same area YMMV.

For sure Singapore feels much safer as HK can be a zoo. I stayed at Brighton hotel Lockhart Road and its right in there heart of action with no walk of shame at all, the room was tiny but comfy and did the job. I think its very much horses for courses both places have merit, and its nice to go somwhere different.

One thing to consider is the DH girls can fall for you easily so I feel a bit bad about that side of things. Heading to Dubai next.

Dr

[QUOTE=Drfel;1502716][B]HK 1st Report[/B]
...One thing to consider is the DH girls can fall for you easily so I feel a bit bad about that side of things.[/QUOTE]I'm not so sure that those DH girls who "fall for you" have true love in mind, although it's possible.

More than likely, they have fallen for your wallet, your kindness, and the fact that being with you can get them out of the DH situation and into a much easier life, while still being able to send money regularly back home to their relatives in the Philippines or Indonesia.

Sorry to sound like such a cynic.

[QUOTE=Drfel; 1502716]One thing to consider is the DH girls can fall for you easily so I feel a bit bad about that side of things. Heading to Dubai next.

Dr[/QUOTE]Don't worry as soon as you have left she will have her mind set to the coming weekend and about meeting a new honey! At the end of the day for most DH it is all about having some fun, forgetting their tough life for a couple of hours and finding some support in one way or another. Your wallet and not looks, age or personality will make the difference!

[QUOTE=Drfel; 1502716]Just want to report on HK having never punted here before, usually I go to Singapore. My observations are I met a nice DH filli that was hot to trot I was in bed with her 5 mins after we met Sunday morning, the DH scene is bigger than in sing and you should have dramas getting total GFE as I did. The p4p scene in HK is a bit similar to Singapore, prices seem in the same area YMMV.

For sure Singapore feels much safer as HK can be a zoo. I stayed at Brighton hotel Lockhart Road and its right in there heart of action with no walk of shame at all, the room was tiny but comfy and did the job. I think its very much horses for courses both places have merit, and its nice to go somwhere different.

One thing to consider is the DH girls can fall for you easily so I feel a bit bad about that side of things. Heading to Dubai next.

Dr[/QUOTE]The street walker PRC girls in Geylang of Singapore look as hot as the HKG 141 site girls.

Massage?

[QUOTE=Lakeside;1502951]Don't worry as soon as you have left she will have her mind set to the coming weekend and about meeting a new honey! At the end of the day for most DH it is all about having some fun, forgetting their tough life for a couple of hours and finding some support in one way or another. Your wallet and not looks, age or personality will make the difference![/QUOTE]I'm not so sure about this. Of course, it will apply to many but my experience in the past is that you are dealing with vulnerable, lonely girls, away from home and in many cases, their own family. They are poorly paid and many don't have good working and living conditions compared to others.

Those who make their way to the bars are in search of company, a night out and, secondly in my view, a bit extra cash on the side. Of all the DH's I have met over the years, not one has mentioned money as a deal breaker.

Give them a bit of respect, treat them kindly, buy them a drink and this pays dividends in handfuls. They have their needs as well and the least bit of friendliness shown to them is repaid in spades. No one can match them for GFE. No wonder they fall for you and think 'this is it' and 'you are the one'. They will naively assume all in the garden is rosy – and what real harm does it do? My nympho Brenda that I met last month is in the category of thinking she has finally met her life's partner (me) as she emails me every day now. Bit of a nuisance but I am working on the basis that she will eventually see the light of day and her memory of me will fade away. In the meantime I am doing nothing to encourage her or to discourage her. She is happy for the moment. The size of my wallet has not been a feature.

Others will no doubt comment. Just my opinion.

[QUOTE=Jackthelad2; 1503166]I'm not so sure about this. Of course, it will apply to many but my experience in the past is that you are dealing with vulnerable, lonely girls, away from home and in many cases, their own family. They are poorly paid and many don't have good working and living conditions compared to others.

Those who make their way to the bars are in search of company, a night out and, secondly in my view, a bit extra cash on the side. Of all the DH's I have met over the years, not one has mentioned money as a deal breaker.

Give them a bit of respect, treat them kindly, buy them a drink and this pays dividends in handfuls. They have their needs as well and the least bit of friendliness shown to them is repaid in spades. No one can match them for GFE. No wonder they fall for you and think 'this is it' and 'you are the one'. They will naively assume all in the garden is rosy – and what real harm does it do? My nympho Brenda that I met last month is in the category of thinking she has finally met her life's partner (me) as she emails me every day now. Bit of a nuisance but I am working on the basis that she will eventually see the light of day and her memory of me will fade away. In the meantime I am doing nothing to encourage her or to discourage her. She is happy for the moment. The size of my wallet has not been a feature.

Others will no doubt comment. Just my opinion.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Lakeside;1502951]Don't worry as soon as you have left she will have her mind set to the coming weekend and about meeting a new honey! At the end of the day for most DH it is all about having some fun, forgetting their tough life for a couple of hours and finding some support in one way or another. Your wallet and not looks, age or personality will make the difference![/QUOTE][QUOTE=Mighty Spearsman; 1502753]I'm not so sure that those DH girls who "fall for you" have true love in mind, although it's possible.

More than likely, they have fallen for your wallet, your kindness, and the fact that being with you can get them out of the DH situation and into a much easier life, while still being able to send money regularly back home to their relatives in the Philippines or Indonesia.

Sorry to sound like such a cynic.[/QUOTE]IMHO, the truth is somewhere in the middle but I tend to think along the lines of JTL. Most girls are after money, marriage, love, and companionship. And probably in that order. DHs are no different. So long as it is a couple hundred US, I don't mind. Some cry to the State department when they get scammed that much on foreign girlfriends but heck, many tourists at JFK NYC lose that much to the taxis everyday.

As L said, like all girls, the DH will continue looking as there is no exclusivity. Many of the hot girls will have a bfs but are willing to hedge their bets for the parts missing from their relationship. Many have south asian or Nepali bfs but are willing to go with you for $ or better prospects (in the case of foreign bfs). As such, you get GFE and all the drama. As JTL suggests, treat them nicely and the favor will be returned. Just my 2 cents.

[QUOTE=Drfel; 1502716]Just want to report on HK having never punted here before, usually I go to Singapore. My observations are I met a nice DH filli that was hot to trot I was in bed with her 5 mins after we met Sunday morning, the DH scene is bigger than in sing and you should have dramas getting total GFE as I did. The p4p scene in HK is a bit similar to Singapore, prices seem in the same area YMMV.

For sure Singapore feels much safer as HK can be a zoo. I stayed at Brighton hotel Lockhart Road and its right in there heart of action with no walk of shame at all, the room was tiny but comfy and did the job. I think its very much horses for courses both places have merit, and its nice to go somwhere different.

One thing to consider is the DH girls can fall for you easily so I feel a bit bad about that side of things. Heading to Dubai next.

Dr[/QUOTE]In Singapore, there are many younger ones and many do not get a day off. Their living conditions can be quite bad. But that is for another forum.

[QUOTE=Jsxyz; 1499908]Arrived in Hong Kong Friday, evening and had one night, ONE NIGHT! To spend in Wan Chai before some friends arrived in town the next day, after which my playtime activity had to be shut down. I went out much MUCH to early, probably in anticipation, at around 9:30 or 10:00 PM and of course it was dead. I stuck around and made the rounds, but even after several hours I still just couldn't find anyone who really tickled my fancy.

On my second tour of the new Hong Kong Cafe I struck gold with a beautiful Thai girl who was friendly, affectionate and all over me from the moment I sat down a the bar. After a few more beers, we agreed on the particulars and headed out. I'm staying in Kowloon so it was a bit of a long taxi ride, but she was affectionate and playful the whole time. When we finally arrived, much to my dismay she insisted on payment up front! Ugh. I really didn't get that mercenary vibe from her in the bar, but she was insistent so I did the smart thing and sent her away with 100 for taxi fare. I was probably too generous even with that gesture, but it was already quite late and the MTR was closed, so I felt a little bad for her.

ARGHHHH!

I've got two more nights in town, but it's going to be REALLY hard to break away from my friends for any funtime; dammit! Lesson learned I guess: negotiate EVERYTHING up front, not just how much but when she gets paid.[/QUOTE]Don't feel too badly. You probably did the right thing. Even with full knowledge and the best plan, you are dealing with some of the most illogical creatures on the planet. Things can still go wrong. I have quite a few years in HK and I still left standing alone waiting. In fact, if I want to be sure I will get laid, I often schedule more than one date on a Saturday or Sunday, though spread out through the day. Almost never do they all show up, then you can lengthen or cancel appointments as the day unfolds.

Actually if it were me and I had only one night, I would have weighed the possible loss of the amount I was going to pay her against the value I put on the one experience I could have, and then maybe paid her and taken the risks. While it is a bad idea to pay upfront, they do call it a "punt". She might have screwed you, or she might have been great. Thoughts for the next time.

A wise man once said, whenever you have the chance for a Thai girl, take it. And, except for the one with the dick, it has always served me well. (just kidding about the dick).

I am new to HK, what do you mean by full package or extra. What do we get in the 500$ package at 37 Dundas K Pressure.

How do I find K Pressue at Dundas?

Please help.

Apparently there has been a big bust on sex 141 site. A number of arrests and money seized. Believe that the forum part of the website is still working.

[QUOTE=Chantik;1505093]Apparently there has been a big bust on sex 141 site. A number of arrests and money seized. Believe that the forum part of the website is still working.[/QUOTE]It was in the english papers. Quite a lot of $. Surprised anything is up as the servers were taken. This is like the third or fourth vice raid in as many months.

[QUOTE=JollyRide; 1505088]I am new to HK, what do you mean by full package or extra. What do we get in the 500$ package at 37 Dundas K Pressure.

How do I find K Pressue at Dundas?

Please help.[/QUOTE]RTFF. Hint: start by going up one level on this forum.

[QUOTE=Brown Rail;1504175]Don't feel too badly. . I often schedule more than one date on a Saturday or Sunday, though spread out through the day. Almost never do they all show up, then you can lengthen or cancel appointments as the day unfolds.[/QUOTE]The problem is when they all show up and one has not spread out the meeting points efficiently and one does not take chemical enhancements. LOL

[QUOTE=JollyRide; 1505088]I am new to HK, what do you mean by full package or extra. What do we get in the 500$ package at 37 Dundas K Pressure.

How do I find K Pressue at Dundas?

Please help.[/QUOTE]As Boarer has pointed out, there's a user thread specifically about 37 Dundas. I recommend you check out that thread, also do a search on K Pressure.

"37 Dundas" is the street address for a massage place, located at 37 Dundas Street, just west of Nathan Road in the Mong Kok section of Kowloon, Hong Kong. It's walking distance from the Yau Ma Tei Metro stop at Nathan and Pitt streets. Use an Internet map website and type in "37 Dundas Street, Hong Kong" and you'll see how it easy it is to find this place.

Once you arrive here, take the side entrance and walk up one flight of stairs. You'll be met by a mamasan and led to a waiting room, then a group of 3 or 4 girls will be brought in for you to choose from. Once you choose one of the young lovelies, she'll lead you up two more flights to a short-stay hotel. Once inside the room, you'll receive a complete package. The girl will take a nice shower with you, then BJ and covered FS, maybe some cuddling and GFE depending on the connection between you and the girl. I suppose you could ask for a massage as well. The girl will most likely be from mainland China and speak little or no English, but that shouldn't stop you from having a good time. The price of the complete package was 490 HKD but is probably slightly higher now, I haven't been there lately so I'm not sure what the current price is.

K Pressure is a different place, also located in Kowloon (I think it's near the Jordan Metro stop?), one difference here is that you are introduced to a girl one by one, which can get to be a pain if you don't like the first few girls that are brought to you. You also end up going to a short-stay hotel in the same building (this is how these places get around Hong Kong's 'no brothels' law).

Anyone with more recent info is welcome to add onto (or correct) this post, as I haven't been in HK in a couple of years.

[QUOTE=Chantik;1505093]Apparently there has been a big bust on sex 141 site. A number of arrests and money seized. Believe that the forum part of the website is still working.[/QUOTE]From what the papers reported, the owners were greedy and engaged in several illegal activities with the big one being money laundering.

[QUOTE=Chantik;1505093]Apparently there has been a big bust on sex 141 site. A number of arrests and money seized. Believe that the forum part of the website is still working.[/QUOTE]See here: [url]http://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/article/1373896/police-bust-vice-racket-behind-citys-biggest-porn-website-sex-141[/url]

The HK website is down but the other country sites still up / running. I'm assuming the girls are still working, just no on-line advertising, addresses, tels available. The hotel walk-in side is probably hurting but assume the regular walk-up sites still operating. At least for the short term.

I'm sure they'll have something up and running by year end.

[QUOTE=Boarer;1505115]The problem is when they all show up and one has not spread out the meeting points efficiently and one does not take chemical enhancements. LOL[/QUOTE]I have to say, it has never happened. My statics are pretty good with a robust data set. I think the odds of a Filipina or Indonesian girl showing up in the right place at the right time is about 33. That means you can, on average, schedule three dates about 2-3 hours apart and you will be assured of at least one great date. Of course, don't schedule them in the same location as relying on the "average" could result in occasional collisions.

As for better living through chemistry, nothing wrong with that.

I am not 100% up to date with alternatives but I know these two:

161sex and miss148.

Any more names out there?

[QUOTE=Traveler1234; 1505264]See here:

[url]http://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/article/1373896/police-bust-vice-racket-behind-citys-biggest-porn-website-sex-141[/url]

The HK website is down but the other country sites still up / running. I'm assuming the girls are still working, just no on-line advertising, addresses, tels available. The hotel walk-in side is probably hurting but assume the regular walk-up sites still operating. At least for the short term.

I'm sure they'll have something up and running by year end.[/QUOTE]I am not sure I understand which part of what they were doing is illegal. The site was hardly porn, as the girls were dressed. Taking and editing pics can't be illegal. Free make-up and costumes can't be illegal. Running tours of HK can't be illegal. If prostitution is legal, is advertising it illegal?

It is "other gangs" who were doing the tours anyway.

The only thing I can see is the site not reporting income for tax purposes? Is that the money laundering? Am I missing something?

[QUOTE=Chantik;1505093]Apparently there has been a big bust on sex 141 site. A number of arrests and money seized. Believe that the forum part of the website is still working.[/QUOTE]I wouldn't think there would be too much sympathy for the people that ran that site. The viewing and access restrictions were just too much IMHO.

No amount of gentle persuasion would change their mind.

Styk

[QUOTE=Brown Rail; 1505307]I am not sure I understand which part of what they were doing is illegal. The site was hardly porn, as the girls were dressed. Taking and editing pics can't be illegal. Free make-up and costumes can't be illegal. Running tours of HK can't be illegal. If prostitution is legal, is advertising it illegal?

It is "other gangs" who were doing the tours anyway.

The only thing I can see is the site not reporting income for tax purposes? Is that the money laundering? Am I missing something?[/QUOTE]The issue was the hotel side of the business because they charged ladies for advertising. And decent amounts of money. And in affect it was all in one shop.

Ladies are unhappy with the review process. Supposedly if they got bad reviews their advertising went up.

[QUOTE=Brown Rail;1505307]I am not sure I understand which part of what they were doing is illegal.[/QUOTE]Money laundering is quite illegal. The bust has nothing to do with the girls or advertising. Though The Standard reports that the original site founders were charged in 2002 for conspiracy to live on the earnings of prostitution, and then the next owners were jailed for two years.

It seems that this latest bust the current owners were really greedy. Money laundering wasn't bad enough. They were also working to procure girls for the sex trade. But this does explain why the site also had certain favourite agents / papasans / pimps that they would advertise and feature over others. If the owners had just ran the site where revenue came only from advertising then there's a legal argument that nothing is illegal. But the owners didn't and were greedy. Hotel girls, walkups, punters and the forum all have nothing to do with the arrests and the charges all relate to money laundering.

The SCMP doesn't go into it but The Standard does. Specifically:

[QUOTE=]Profits from the ads were deposited into "puppet" bank accounts and transferred to other accounts to be laundered.

It is believed that Chan's wife ran a financial company, whose debtors who could not pay would provide their bank accounts as part of the laundering procedure.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=]"The syndicate used more than 100 bank accounts to launder illegal proceeds, according to police."[/QUOTE]Source articles:

[url]http://www.thestandard.com.hk/news_detail.asp?we_cat=11&art_id=140355&sid=41064096&con_type=3&d_str=20131206&fc=8[/url]

[url]http://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/article/1373896/police-bust-vice-racket-behind-citys-biggest-porn-website-sex-141[/url]

My main concern is where do we get the great great info that was in that database?

I am non HK based but regular visitor I need to know who / what is available where & when.

They shuts Best161 a few years ago but thank God survived but now thats gone I can find no site with even 5% the info.

[QUOTE=Stykler; 1505397]I wouldn't think there would be too much sympathy for the people that ran that site. The viewing and access restrictions were just too much IMHO.

No amount of gentle persuasion would change their mind.

Styk[/QUOTE]Hold on. Anyone could access the main site. With gal details by area, bldg, bust etc etc.

The forum in both English & Chinese was available 90%+ for anyone who just registered.

It was the best, most organised, updated & efficient sex database on planet earth.

I will be visiting HK for the first time and been enthusiastically reading the threads trying to get a grasp of the variety of possibilities there. Given I will be traveling with others, my time will be constrained, but hope to get in a little fun when I can.

Couple questions for you veterans:

1) Is there any action in the Sha Tin area? Will be staying out there for work and while having time to tour around other parts of the city, curious if there will be anything nearby.

2) What is the sauna scene like? Any particular places one would recommend for a non-Chinese speaking first-time visitor?

Been reading about 37 Dundas and that seems like a fairly easy place to manage. Are all the girls from mainland?

Appreciate any advice.

Thanks in advance,

RW

[QUOTE=Brown Rail;1505307]I am not sure I understand which part of what they were doing is illegal.[/QUOTE]Prostitution as such is not illegal in HK.

The possible offences related to sex trade include: (1) living off the earnings, (2) running a vice establishment, (3) soliciting in public, and (4) breach of conditions of stay (girls admitted on tourist visa but working).

Money laundering and fraud / bribes might also happen depending on how they operated.

Cheers.

[QUOTE=Uncle Goober2; 1505686]Prostitution as such is not illegal in HK.

The possible offences related to sex trade include: (1) living off the earnings, (2) running a vice establishment, (3) soliciting in public, and (4) breach of conditions of stay (girls admitted on tourist visa but working).

Money laundering and fraud / bribes might also happen depending on how they operated.

Cheers.[/QUOTE]Yea this is the problem. Despite the "141" label these girls are not truly 141 because there are advertisers, landlords, bosses, etc involved. Living off the earnings of a prostitute is a crime so if the girl pays part of her earnings to anyone else involved in making her available that is a crime. But it can be very hard to investigate and prove, which is why most of the charges are for immigration violations / fraud / overstay / illegal work and money laundering.

[QUOTE=Johnny Rocket;1505756]Yea this is the problem. Despite the "141" label these girls are not truly 141 because there are advertisers, landlords, bosses, etc involved.[/QUOTE]Johnny, maybe we should explain the unstated or assumed lingo / slang to the others.

The expression "[i]141[/i]" is local slang for a local woman acting alone serving individual customers. (HK mongers on the board can explain the precise etymology of the expression.)

Thus, if the local woman acts on her own, within her own premises, without assistance from others, the operation will be legal, because she won't be allowing others to live off her earnings, nor will she be soliciting in public, and nor will she be breaching any immigration laws (being local and allowed to work here).

Cheers

Hi,

Any BJ bar in HK? Just looking for quick BJ only at lunch time or after work.

Any recommendations?

Thanks

141 is back up, but it's some sort of alternative site that requires log-in with existing account.

ever since craigslist took down the erotic services section, wgs have been posting in w4m and therpeutic services. i'm very familiar with all the regulars posting in w4m, but never tried anyone from therapeutic services. anyone know if there are any good providers advertising in that section?

hi,

does anyone have any experience with any of the outcall massage places in hong kong? there seem to be quite a number online, and they sound very promising but i've seen a few bad reviews. specifically, does anyone have experience with *savoury massage* or "chuan's [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url] tantric massage", for example. the descriptions sound good, perhaps too good.

i'm only going to be in hong kong for a few days next month and i'd like to make the best of it. i know that many of you might suggest i go incall based on what i've read on this forum, but i like the idea of the girl in my hotel room.

any advice appreciated.

thanks,

franks

[quote=fsnowdon; 1506368]hi,

does anyone have any experience with any of the outcall massage places in hong kong? there seem to be quite a number online, and they sound very promising but i've seen a few bad reviews. specifically, does anyone have experience with *savoury massage* or "chuan's [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url] tantric massage", for example. the descriptions sound good, perhaps too good.

i'm only going to be in hong kong for a few days next month and i'd like to make the best of it. i know that many of you might suggest i go incall based on what i've read on this forum, but i like the idea of the girl in my hotel room.

any advice appreciated.

thanks,

franks[/quote]with all due respect, you have contributed to the forum 3 questions and are only looking for advice. not one single report. to get something, you really need to contribute. what were your experiences as a result of your previous questions in shanghai and madrid?

to help you, however, there are plenty of outcall massage places in hk. google "hotel massage" and you will find them. after that it's pot luck but i am still seeing a girl who came to my hotel originally to provide a massage about 18 months ago. she still comes when i'm in town but there is now no massage if you get my drift. maybe i was lucky but you make your own luck sometimes.

[QUOTE=Uncle Goober2; 1505801]Johnny, maybe we should explain the unstated or assumed lingo / slang to the others.

The expression "[i]141[/i]" is local slang for a local woman acting alone serving individual customers. (HK mongers on the board can explain the precise etymology of the expression.)

Thus, if the local woman acts on her own, within her own premises, without assistance from others, the operation will be legal, because she won't be allowing others to live off her earnings, nor will she be soliciting in public, and nor will she be breaching any immigration laws (being local and allowed to work here).

Cheers[/QUOTE]And how about the banks? If the girl puts her earnings into her bank account or she takes a small loan or overdraft to pay for the 141 website, wouldn't the banks also make a living of the proceeds from prostitution? Would like to see the police raiding HSBC for that reason.

[QUOTE=Uncle Goober2; 1505801]Johnny, maybe we should explain the unstated or assumed lingo / slang to the others.

The expression "[i]141[/i]" is local slang for a local woman acting alone serving individual customers. (HK mongers on the board can explain the precise etymology of the expression.) [/QUOTE]You know 141 = one for one. One lady, one flat, one customer.

[QUOTE=Zuzon X;1506474]And how about the banks? If the girl puts her earnings into her bank account or she takes a small loan or overdraft to pay for the 141 website, wouldn't the banks also make a living of the proceeds from prostitution? Would like to see the police raiding HSBC for that reason.[/QUOTE]And how about the condom companies? It is true that they draw the line somewhat arbitrarily. But the defining characteristic seems to be whether you are knowingly involved with putting the WG and customer together, and make money from it.

A few weeks ago I returned from a 4 day visit to HK and revisited my favorite stomping ground; the area around the Temple Street night market. It's one of HK's main tourist shopping markets and is located near the Jordan Station in Yau Ma Tei.

I was amazed at how many ladies were out compared to previous years. In the evenings I would estimate there were at least 30 of them occupying the streetcorners. Lots of them were wearing mini dresses, stockings, and high heeled shoes or boots, which always gets my blood boiling. No stunning beauties, I would rate most of them to be in the 4 to 6 range on the 1-10 scale. In previous years I found that a significant number would not return my interest, I assume because I am a white man. But this year very few women ignored me. I guess that area has become more of a buyer's market.

None spoke any English, which complicates the negotiating. They would use their fingers or type numbers in their cell phone to indicate the price. Unfortunately, I could not negotiate the terms of the deal, especially about blow jobs. In my previous encounters, half would give a covered BJ and half would use hand stimulation. Only very few would give an uncovered BJ.

I asked about 20 women about prices, and the majority quoted $300. A couple offered $200, and a couple shot for the moon with $500 quotes but lowered it to $300 very quickly. All the women have short time rooms and I've always been offered a shower.

I must admit that chances are a $1200 Wan Chai gal will most likely provide longer and more satisfying service than one of these ladies. Temple Street streetwalkers are for men whose main objective is to blow their wads for a minimal amount of money and fuss. Plus I really get off on looking at streetwalkers and taking my time to find just the right one that will get my libido bubbling.

Attached are pics of the $200 girl I found on my first day. I would guess she was in her mid 20's. Not bad looking, very fresh and wholesome looking and didn't wear any cosmetics. I loved her pink and black mid-thigh length knit dress and 4 inch pink heels and suntan panty hose. Had a fairly tight tummy but had a C-section scar. Pussy was not too tight and not too loose, felt mighty good.

I met with her 3 times. I have never repeated sessions with a HK streetwalker, but I wanted to see whether there would be an escalation in GFE with multiple encounters.

She provided the usual customary service on the first meeting, which was in the evening at around 9 pm. I showered, then she showered. I laid on my back and she licked my nipples for a minute, then put on the condom and gave an average BJ, then I climbed on top to finish the deed. Nothing special at all. For all I know, I might have been her 10th customer of the day, so she was tired. Therefore, I decided to see how things would be with her if I were her first customer of the day.

The next day I went to back to the area in the morning at about 10 am to check for her, and was a bit surprised to see her out so early. She was wearing the same dress as the night before. As I walked by, our eyes met and her face indicated she recognized me and was surprised to see me. I walked up to her and she shook my hand, which was a bit unusual, haha. I motioned to her that I wanted to go with her, which made her smile. She reached out and held my hand as we went back to her room.

This time I was able to convince her to engage in some light kissing while she used her hand to stroke my cock. After a minute I motioned that I wanted a blow job, so she slapped on the condom and gave a much more spirited effort than the day before. I am an old man and it always takes me longer to cum the day after having sex, so I spent more time pounding her pussy before exploding. She really seemed to like the sex, with lots of moaning and arching of the back. No logical reason for her to fake anything, so I am pretty sure she was really into the action.

Two days later I returned for the third time in the morning and found her standing in the same area wearing the same dress. Seemed strange she would be wearing the same dress each day. But I noticed there was no luggage in her tiny room, only a big backpack. So I guess she didn't bring many clothes with her. A few years ago, I found a SW who spoke English, and she says she is only able to obtain a two week visa from mainland China. I guess these girls travel lightly, haha.

Anyway, she waved at me as I passed by and smiled brightly when I indicated I wanted her a third time. When we got to her room, she gave me a big hug and we actually kissed for a minute. Not deep FK, but it was some pretty nice lipsmacking all the same with light tongue twirling.

After we laid down, she proceeded to give me a BJ without the condom, which really surprised me. It was a pretty spirited one and she went down fairly deep on my shaft. I give her an A for effort and a B+ for results, haha.

She even initiated kissing during intercourse, which was nice. It obviously benefits a guy to be a woman's first customer of the day, so she's fresh and more ready for action.

So the net result is 3 encounters for $600 HK (she never asked for a tip). All services were satisfactory. Nothing mindblowing about the experiences, but I got good value for a minimal amount of money. I was pleased.

Decided to check the scene around 3 PM.

A lot of DH are around the bars and discos (could recognize Filipinos and Indonesian).

Moving around from one place to the other getting in and after a while back out.

I followed a group of 3 Indonesian from Players to Neptune 2.

Same scene everywhere. They dance and chat and looking around for a " nice guy " who will be ready to take them out.

I was sitting by the bar and watching around.

After a while a nice tall Indo came and took the seat by my side.

She asked for a lighter and we started to chat.

Within 10 minutes we were on the way to my hotel (KL side)

She didn't want to take the MTR so we took a Taxi.

To make a long story short we started with a shower than a BBBJ and mish mish.

She was 100% GFE.

On the way out the hotel I asked her if she needs taxi money . She was surprised by the question and said she want 2000$.

Ended up giving her 1000$.

Since I visit often we chat online and she told me that 2000$ is not too much.

Overall experience. Not too bad.

[quote=johnny rocket;1506353]ever since craigslist took down the erotic services section, wgs have been posting in w4m and therpeutic services. i'm very familiar with all the regulars posting in w4m, but never tried anyone from therapeutic services. anyone know if there are any good providers advertising in that section?[/quote]i could be in that section as i have been complimented on my massage skills.

see if you can find me!

DH's expecting $2000. The world has changed!

Standard price is still $500.

Gee. If the standard price for a DH is $2000. I will need to visit bars again!

Guys, trying to contact a girl named Steffi. Usually meet her when I go to HK but lost her number. So annoyed. If you have her number please PM me. She is the girl on the right. Thanks. CT

[QUOTE=Chantik; 1506814]DH's expecting $2000. The world has changed!

Standard price is still $500.

Gee. If the standard price for a DH is $2000. I will need to visit bars again![/QUOTE]
I know one who gets between 1500 and 2500. But that is of course the exception.
Recently I have rejected one who wouldn't budge from 1000. Then there are others who only want taxi money or 100-200 on their octopus.

Popped into Escape last night. They definitely have a computerised system with the girls pic. It was very crowded, but emptied out guys within an hour, leaving nearly all ladies. Most guys were window shopping. Did see one or two of my regulars. Naughty guys!

[QUOTE=Chaos Theory;1506847]Guys, trying to contact a girl named Steffi. Usually meet her when I go to HK but lost her number. So annoyed. If you have her number please PM me. She is the girl on the right. Thanks. CT[/QUOTE]CT. I'll take the one on the left if it helps out!

[QUOTE=Chaos Theory;1506847]Guys, trying to contact a girl named Steffi. Usually meet her when I go to HK but lost her number. So annoyed. If you have her number please PM me. She is the girl on the right. Thanks. CT[/QUOTE]FWIW, they look like Indo WGs. Chantik might know; she might even be one of them! Otherwise might suggest you brighten the pics (its too dark and you can recrop) and put back on your phone. The waitresses or bouncers might know them if they have a regular hangout. If DH, chances are slim as some only frequent the bars to pick up a new bf and / or cash and / or when their bf (s) are away. Good luck.

BTW, there are many ways to backup a phone book in the cloud.

[QUOTE=Boarer;1507422]FWIW, they look like Indo WGs. Chantik might know; she might even be one of them![/QUOTE]Definitely not Chantik!

[QUOTE=Chantik; 1506811]I could be in that section as I have been complimented on my massage skills.

See if you can find me![/QUOTE]What was that song by Police?"message in a bottle"? LOL

[QUOTE=Chantik; 1506811]I could be in that section as I have been complimented on my massage skills.

See if you can find me![/QUOTE]I always know your ads.

[QUOTE=BionicMan;1507485]What was that song by Police?"message in a bottle"? LOL[/QUOTE]Or was it "Roxanne"?

[QUOTE=Johnny Rocket;1507602]I always know your ads.[/QUOTE]What's the story with all these prodomme's on CL.

Spoke to a couple of Domme mates and we wonder what is happening.

[QUOTE=Johnny Rocket;1507603]Or was it "Roxanne"?[/QUOTE]I enjoy ' putting on the red light '.

[quote=fsnowdon; 1506368]hi,

does anyone have any experience with any of the outcall massage places in hong kong? there seem to be quite a number online, and they sound very promising but i've seen a few bad reviews. specifically, does anyone have experience with *savoury massage* or "chuan's [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url] tantric massage", for example. the descriptions sound good, perhaps too good.

i'm only going to be in hong kong for a few days next month and i'd like to make the best of it. i know that many of you might suggest i go incall based on what i've read on this forum, but i like the idea of the girl in my hotel room.

any advice appreciated.

thanks,

franks[/quote]i used one of those 'tantric massage' websites last month (nov) in hkg. given the good english on the website i had hoped for a service aimed at and suitable to foreigners.

price quoted was 500hkd for an hour 'sensual massage'. girl arrives within 15 minutes of calling. reasonable looking prc girl, some english. she keeps all her clothes on.

after about 10 minutes of the massage she starts asking me to extend time. i say no, but she is incessant. and as i refuse her enthusiasm drops. then she starts saying "well you must tip, the 500 all goes to my boss. no tip means nothing for me."

kind of put a damper on things. as it turned out she agreed to give me a hj to finish for another 500. so total damage 1000hkd for a poor massage but a happy ending. it's a risk to use these services, probably depends on the girl as well. but they do come to your hotel so if after a flight you just need a release it can work.

i put it down to experience. i think others would do better than i did. good luck.

[QUOTE=Porsche25; 1508017]I used one of those 'tantric massage' websites last month (Nov) in HKG. Given the good English on the website I had hoped for a service aimed at and suitable to foreigners.

Price quoted was 500HKD for an hour 'sensual massage'. Girl arrives within 15 minutes of calling. Reasonable looking PRC girl, some English. She keeps all her clothes on.

After about 10 minutes of the massage she starts asking me to extend time. I say no, but she is incessant. And as I refuse her enthusiasm drops. Then she starts saying "well you must tip, the 500 all goes to my boss. No tip means nothing for me."

Kind of put a damper on things. As it turned out she agreed to give me a HJ to finish for another 500. So total damage 1000HKD for a poor massage but a happy ending. It's a risk to use these services, probably depends on the girl as well. But they do come to your hotel so if after a flight you just need a release it can work.

I put it down to experience. I think others would do better than I did. Good luck.[/QUOTE]Ah!

I continually advise guys that if these services charge less than 1000 phr (and especially outcall) ran away fast. Because the 500 becomes more than 1000, after the lady arrives in the room, and upsells the product.

[quote=uncle goober2; 1505686]prostitution as such is not illegal in hk.

the possible offences related to sex trade include: (1) living off the earnings, (2) running a vice establishment, (3) soliciting in public, and (4) breach of conditions of stay (girls admitted on tourist visa but working).

money laundering and fraud / bribes might also happen depending on how they operated.

cheers.[/quote]so i can see if the girls are admitted to hk as tourist, they are working with the wrong visa. though that is a stretch to say they are working in the traditional sense. how about the 141 site guys? they provide a service, not like a pimp who actually takes a cut. would the laundry they frequent, the 711 on the corner also be guilty? i can understand if you say that the site is in direct support, but 711 is selling the condoms that are actual tools of the trade? and the site probably has some protection of free speech in law.

so it is all a bit arbitrary. that being said, hk is a pretty fair, open, honest, safe and level-playing field sort of place. i give the authorities lots of credit for maintaining a great place to live, work and play. i just find this issue curious.

one of my good friends used to live here in the 1960s. he was a prominent business man. he was also super horny, and learned to speak and read [a bit of] cantonese. he told me how he used to go to mongkok at lunch time for some relief. there were many places, but the signs were only in chinese. and perhaps thus his motivation to learn the language. his understanding was that as long as the owners kept a low "english" profile, the authorities left them alone. i guess it became embarrassing to the city fathers if it became too obvious. better to limit the customer base to those who can understand understand the signs. lower demand also helps keep prices down for those same "fathers". how clever those chinese!

In ads found addresses buildings like "Foremost Bldg. 19. 21 Jordan Road.". This is building address.

And, in addition, can read: " 15 / F. 14 / F. 13 / F." and "Flat A, Flat B, Flat C."

Somebody could explain?

Thank you

(Lucky. I'll be there soon.)

[QUOTE=Ozsozs; 1508550]In ads found addresses buildings like "Foremost Bldg. 19. 21 Jordan Road.". This is building address.

And, in addition, can read: " 15 / F. 14 / F. 13 / F." and "Flat A, Flat B, Flat C."

Somebody could explain?

Thank you.

(Lucky. I'll be there soon.) [/QUOTE]It's simple. Many buildings in Hong Kong have a name. The Foremost Building is located at 19/21 Jordan Road, which is a major road in in the Kowloon part of Hong Kong (and which has its own Metro stop)."19/21" means that its street address is both 19 Jordan Road and 21 Jordan Road. It's probably a fairly big building with more than one entrance.

"15 / F" means the 15th floor and Flat A represents an apartment number for that floor. Most floors would have 6 or more apartments or "flats."

Please also remember that the 1st Floor in Hong Kong is usually one floor above street level (or ground level) , unlike the US.

It sounds as if you're asking about 141 girls. If so, most 141 ads have photos of what the girl's building looks like from the outside. Feel free to print out these photos, they can be a great help in finding where you want to go. Some entrances can be on the sides of buildings, not on the street front, so be careful.

Look forward to a report from you soon!

[QUOTE=Mighty Spearsman; 1508641]It's simple. Many buildings in Hong Kong have a name. The Foremost Building is located at 19/21 Jordan Road, which is a major road in in the Kowloon part of Hong Kong (and which has its own Metro stop)."19/21" means that its street address is both 19 Jordan Road and 21 Jordan Road. It's probably a fairly big building with more than one entrance.

"15 / F" means the 15th floor and Flat A represents an apartment number for that floor. Most floors would have 6 or more apartments or "flats."

Please also remember that the 1st Floor in Hong Kong is usually one floor above street level (or ground level) , unlike the US.

It sounds as if you're asking about 141 girls. If so, most 141 ads have photos of what the girl's building looks like from the outside. Feel free to print out these photos, they can be a great help in finding where you want to go. Some entrances can be on the sides of buildings, not on the street front, so be careful.

Look forward to a report from you soon![/QUOTE]Thank you very much for that quick answer.

And I suppose that each Flat as also several rooms! Because I see for Flat B: room 1, room 2, room 5, room 8.

It's like a rabbit burrow or troglodyte town!

If there is some informations (in English?) on the doors: free or not, foreigners accepted, meteo?

[QUOTE=Ozsozs;1508657]And I suppose that each Flat as also several rooms! Because I see for Flat B: room 1, room 2, room 5, room 8.[/QUOTE]Well what a lot of property owners in Hong Kong over the years have done was convert their relatively large single apartments into 3, 4 or 5 smaller rooms, hence the "Flat B, Room 1" and etc. Why collect 10, 000 HKD / month in rent from one apartment when you can collect 8, 000 HKD / mo each from two apartments?

[quote=brown rail; 1508404]so i can see if the girls are admitted to hk as tourist, they are working with the wrong visa. though that is a stretch to say they are working in the traditional sense. how about the 141 site guys? they provide a service, not like a pimp who actually takes a cut. would the laundry they frequent, the 711 on the corner also be guilty? i can understand if you say that the site is in direct support, but 711 is selling the condoms that are actual tools of the trade? and the site probably has some protection of free speech in law.

so it is all a bit arbitrary.[/quote]br, i won't bore the board with a legal discussion, but, yes, the dividing line on [i]"living off the earnings"[/i] is a bit grey. but then many legal issues have grey areas and blurred edges. if you are interested, do a google search and read the articles that pop up. some landlords have been convicted where they rent their premises to someone they know will run a brothel there, even if at market rent, whereas others have been convicted only if they inflate the rent markedly as a result of the shady purpose. but usually the test is that you get convicted if effectively you are acting as what is known as the pimp.

[quote=brown rail;1508404]his understanding was that as long as the owners kept a low "english" profile, the authorities left them alone. i guess it became embarrassing to the city fathers if it became too obvious. how clever those chinese![/quote]by and large that is spot on. a blind eye gets turned on many things in hk, i suppose because hk is an international city and all international cities (indeed most societies) need a sex trade. the key point is to keep it safe and clean, and not such as to cause any embarrassment to the authorities. and luckily hk is one of the most corruption-free places in asia.

cheers.

Saw a girl in Fuji Bldg CWB 15 / F B3. Don't know her name. Total waste. Cold and unwelcoming and poor service. Too late to turn around as I was already inside by the time I realized. That's the risk of 141. She does have a cute and tight little pussy though. Still, avoid her.

Something weird happened after the second shower. She gets a phone call, has a quick conversation, and then hangs up. She holds a finger up to her lips like she's telling me to be quiet. She opens her door and removes the welcome / wait sign and brings it inside. I start to ask what's happening but she shushes me again. Then she looks at her video monitor. Remembering the recent 141 bust I quickly dress and leave. No idea what that was.

[quote=chantik;1507832]i enjoy ' putting on the red light '.[/quote]think he was trying to get roxanne out of the trade; not into it. lol.

interesting thing in the scmp about guys driving around abducting girls and [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord125][CodeWord125][/url] them in india for sport. sounds very much like what happened to some wgs / dh i met in wanchai who got lured into vans.

[QUOTE=Johnny Rocket;1508979]Remembering the recent 141 bust I quickly dress and leave. No idea what that was.[/QUOTE]Not sure, but I think Johns are OK in HK (though for the first time ever, I was asked for my ID in a disco). Not like US where one could end up on the front page like Hugh Grant. Though Devine did milk it for all she could.

[quote=boarer; 1509007]think he was trying to get roxanne out of the trade; not into it. lol.

interesting thing in the scmp about guys driving around abducting girls and [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord125][CodeWord125][/url] them in india for sport. sounds very much like what happened to some wgs / dh i met in wanchai who got lured into vans.[/quote]and it was south asian men doing that here was it not?

[QUOTE=Boarer;1509010]Not sure, but I think Johns are OK in HK (though for the first time ever, I was asked for my ID in a disco). Not like US where one could end up on the front page like Hugh Grant. Though Devine did milk it for all she could.[/QUOTE]Yes johns are ok but who wants that hassle?

[quote=boarer; 1509007]think he was trying to get roxanne out of the trade; not into it. lol.

interesting thing in the scmp about guys driving around abducting girls and [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord125][CodeWord125][/url] them in india for sport. sounds very much like what happened to some wgs / dh i met in wanchai who got lured into vans.[/quote]i wouldn't say it was guys driving around abducting girls. that's stretching it too far. though some ladies had their pussy stretched!

think you are referring to the famous van with blaring music (paki / nepalese guys) who would park near laguna or fenwick. they would get ladies in two ways. one or two guys go into laguna buy lady / ladies drink, get them a little drunk and then invite them to the van, without the ladies knowing there may be 4/5/6 guys. or the van itself would attract interest withthe loud music, chat to girls outside the van, share some drinks and then maybe have fun. i also believe that these guys may have have got some of the carnegies crowd also. young, cool guys,with drinks in a van playing the latest tunes can be appealing.

lured rather than abducted is a more accurate word. know a number of indo girls were lured. will say that the indo way of thinking is that if we get drunk, we may do silly things. but life goes on.

actually haven't seen that van for about 2 years - it may have died with laguna and fenwick.

[QUOTE=Boarer;1509010]Not sure, but I think Johns are OK in HK (though for the first time ever, I was asked for my ID in a disco). Not like US where one could end up on the front page like Hugh Grant. Though Devine did milk it for all she could.[/QUOTE]I posted about 2 months ago seeing guys at Boracay being asked for I'd during an immigration / police raid. I was more impressed that secuuity at Boracay, were tipped off 10 minutes before the visit. Never seen ladies rush so quickly out of the emergency exits. Went from 60 ladies to around 20.

[QUOTE=Chantik;1509308]Went from 60 ladies to around 20.[/QUOTE]60 ladies in Borocay? LOL.

Never!

[quote=chantik; 1509305]i wouldn't say it was guys driving around abducting girls. that's stretching it too far. though some ladies had their pussy stretched!

think you are referring to the famous van with blaring music (paki / nepalese guys) who would park near laguna or fenwick. they would get ladies in two ways. one or two guys go into laguna buy lady / ladies drink, get them a little drunk and then invite them to the van, without the ladies knowing there may be 4/5/6 guys. or the van itself would attract interest withthe loud music, chat to girls outside the van, share some drinks and then maybe have fun. i also believe that these guys may have have got some of the carnegies crowd also. young, cool guys, with drinks in a van playing the latest tunes can be appealing.

lured rather than abducted is a more accurate word. know a number of indo girls were lured. will say that the indo way of thinking is that if we get drunk, we may do silly things. but life goes on.

actually haven't seen that van for about 2 years. it may have died with laguna and fenwick.[/quote]the multiple first hand accounts i heard, and sometimes corroborated by third parties, included vehicles other than vans. if a victim is pushed and man handled into a vehicle, i would call it an abduction; even though they might have been lured close to the vehicle under some pretense so that an abduction could be executed.

[quote=johnny rocket;1509165]and it was south asian men doing that here was it not?[/quote]i had skimmed the scmp article but i would assume so. the mo is so similar in that victims were in a society / position where if the crime was reported, the victim will be prosecuted or maligned. recent [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] victims in some muslim countries were prosecuted and punished. likewise a dh or a wg on a tourist visa would have many reasons not to report the crime.

A week before my hk trip I searched craiglist.

Got some contacts and chat with few.

Arrived early evening and called a Philipino that I liked more.

She knocked on my room door and after some chit chat we started to kiss and touch.

Got her naked and quickly she was wet and dripping

I was horny so all I wanted was to shoot my load.

Overall experience- GFE but nothing special.

To my fellow mongers. Check Craig list before you go for hunting.

[quote=boarer; 1509444]the multiple first hand accounts i heard, and sometimes corroborated by third parties, included vehicles other than vans. if a victim is pushed and man handled into a vehicle, i would call it an abduction; even though they might have been lured close to the vehicle under some pretense so that an abduction could be executed.

i had skimmed the scmp article but i would assume so. the mo is so similar in that victims were in a society / position where if the crime was reported, the victim will be prosecuted or maligned. recent [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] victims in some muslim countries were prosecuted and punished. likewise a dh or a wg on a tourist visa would have many reasons not to report the crime.[/quote]e are.

think we are discussing different events. i am discussing the van driven by paki / nepalese guys that had blaring music. it was either parked near fenwicks or around the corner from laguna. ladies used to stop and talk to the guys, sometimes share a drink. but the number one method was for one or two of the guys to visit laguna, buy girl / s drinks and then bring them to the van for a good time. this is different to guys driving vehicles around the streets of wanchai (which happens today) propositioning girls from their cars. this still happens today and ladies must be cautious. they particularly target gloucester road for ladies waiting at bus stops.

jack. crowds at boracay and makati rowingare close. makati has a few more but the gap is nar at boracay, filipina's at the bar and indonesians at the back. they have their own areas. you must remember that makati charges ladies for entry, cut back on free drinks, no smoking, while boracay no entry price, smoking allowed and offers some free drinks.

[QUOTE=Chantik;1509688]Jack. Crowds at Boracay and Makati rowingare close. Makati has a few more but the gap is nar At Boracay, Filipina's at the bar and Indonesians at the back. They have their own areas. You must remember that Makati charges ladies for entry, cut back on free drinks, no smoking, while Boracay no entry price, smoking allowed and offers some free drinks.[/QUOTE]Will remember that for my next visit!

I have always paid a visit to Borocay in the past, and when I leave, as I have reported often, I wonder why I ever went to it in the first place! Maybe my luck in Borocay will change. I also found that most of the girls in Borocay were working under the dreaded agent who controlled the prices.

Was out Monday entertaining a client. Neptune 3 had a small handful of girls. Two heavily make up girls approached us. Did the intros and asked for drinks. Later on a spinner with a killer body came to us. No hello or anything. Buy me drink, buy me drink, buy me drink was the mantra. Very commercial but oh what a body.

Later on after 10:30 hit Joe Bananas. 4 Thai girls north of 35. HK Cafe was not much better and we exited. I was about to fall asleep from all the excitement. Then client's favorite place, Boracay. There were quite a few Filipinas there, of which 3 or 4 were quite attractive. The rest were playing touchy feely with their phones.

At the back there were 4 or so Indonesian girls. Couple were dressed nicely and looked good. On the wall was a sign that said something like $192 for 6 shooters. We had a drink there. Nothing suited the client and we left.

I only started going to Boracay after your report years ago. The place is indeed hit or miss as I have experienced in the past. But on a Monday, it was a godsend. Hope it stays this way.

[QUOTE=Jackthelad2; 1509702]Will remember that for my next visit!

I have always paid a visit to Borocay in the past, and when I leave, as I have reported often, I wonder why I ever went to it in the first place! Maybe my luck in Borocay will change. I also found that most of the girls in Borocay were working under the dreaded agent who controlled the prices.[/QUOTE]

Ahhhh the Pinay / Indo divide. And one group plays the other groups' songs. Haha.

[QUOTE=Zeppelin029;1509979]Ahhhh the Pinay / Indo divide. And one group plays the other groups' songs. Haha.[/QUOTE]Boracay is the only place where there is a clear divide.

[QUOTE=Ramn HK;1509908]I only started going to Boracay after your report years ago. The place is indeed hit or miss as I have experienced in the past. But on a Monday, it was a godsend. Hope it stays this way.[/QUOTE]Interesting.

You are quite right about it being hit or a miss but more often than not it has been a miss for me as I have rarely seen it very busy. Having said that, it has the odd jem and you can strike lucky.

Good hunting.

Will pay it a visit on my next trip. From memory, Yvonne is the mamasan. She used to work in Galaxy.

Makati has a Christmas eve party from 10pm. And a party on Christmas Day. This will be interesting as its the only day that Guys are bound to the house!

I spent 2 weeks in HK on business at the end of November. Managed to fit in some fun time. Sorry for the late report.

Stayed at the Cosmopolitan in Causeway bay. OK, but wireless charge very high. Took taxi from airport. Despite using the official greeter, the driver did not know where the Hotel was and I ended up talking to his radio woman. Got there eventually for 360 HKD.

First night out I met a 35 year old Filipina in Amazonia. She shocked me by buying me a drink. We went on to Joe Bananas and Sticky Fingers. It was last drink she bought, but great fun and very keen to go back to hotel. Employers were away. She had a very nice body, apart from prominent stretch marks. We had 3 very good sessions as she was very horny. So much so that she wanted to go without condom, but I insisted. We had another session in the morning. I gave her 500 HKD for cab. She came back Monday evening and gave me 360 HKD back as cab only charged 140. We had meal and another 2 sessions. Same issue with condom. I sent her home late as I had work. Gave her 500 again. Very good GFE. She phoned and texted a lot, but I had moved on.

I met 2 women from DIA. Both were in early 40s. Enjoyed my time with them. Turned down gifts. Only challenge was persistence. We do pay so we can get rid of.

Thought HK Cafe was best place to pick up. New Makati was poor. Noisy with very avaricious women. Quoted up to 5000 HKD for LT. However, all reduced when challenged. 2 girls said pay what I felt was worth, but general agreement about 1000 to 1500.

3 massages. Malissa on Lockhart Road was best sex for 500 including massage. She was not a looker, but really got into swing of things. The other 2 wanted me to extend to even get HJ.

I am back in March and looking forward to it.

Peter

[QUOTE=Chantik;1510307]Makati has a Christmas eve party from 10pm. And a party on Christmas Day. This will be interesting as its the only day that Guys are bound to the house![/QUOTE]Except for those sending out "messages in a bottle." That includes the gals! LOL Think it will be a buyer's market!

I was in HK in the fist week of December.

I went K pressure at 10:00pm.

As the address and land mark provided in the forum helped me a lot. Went to second floor, they guided me to first floor.

First I took a lift for second floor, there was no exit at second floor there is no exit, so cam back and asked the old man near the staircase. When there as usual, Mamasa took me to a small room offered me Tea. I told her this is my first Time and asked to give me choice of 2-3 girls. THe first Girl was good looking ans she was sitting very close to me, and gave a shake to my Johny. Selected her.

She took me to the secon floor to the hotel.

I missed my cell phone, she told me collect later, but I ran down to collect it.

When to the room, she removed her cloths and helped me to hand my cloths properly. Asked me if shower is ok, she cleaned me no BJ in Shower.

No soap massage, straight to the room. She asked me if Oral Sex is ok, I said yes. Did fine OS with some cleansers in the mount, as I felt some mint on my Johny.

I asked her for 69, she was ok and allowed to suck her ****, I avoided Rimming was not sure of her clean ass.

She never gave a RIM instead asked me "You Fuck". She laying down, its ok but not that exiting. Then I turned to dogy and then again misss. And finished.

She was always asking to me to finish fast. No kiss, even she had no feminine odor, which was a turn off off for me. We were out of shower before the phone bell.

She was in a hurry. Total turn of.

I am an Indian, is this a reason for bad service

Looks 9/10.

Services 4/10.

[QUOTE=Petertaylor; 1510736]I spent 2 weeks in HK on business at the end of November. Managed to fit in some fun time. Sorry for the late report.

Stayed at the Cosmopolitan in Causeway bay. OK, but wireless charge very high. Took taxi from airport. Despite using the official greeter, the driver did not know where the Hotel was and I ended up talking to his radio woman. Got there eventually for 360 HKD.

First night out I met a 35 year old Filipina in Amazonia. She shocked me by buying me a drink. We went on to Joe Bananas and Sticky Fingers. It was last drink she bought, but great fun and very keen to go back to hotel. Employers were away. She had a very nice body, apart from prominent stretch marks. We had 3 very good sessions as she was very horny. So much so that she wanted to go without condom, but I insisted. We had another session in the morning. I gave her 500 HKD for cab. She came back Monday evening and gave me 360 HKD back as cab only charged 140. We had meal and another 2 sessions. Same issue with condom. I sent her home late as I had work. Gave her 500 again. Very good GFE. She phoned and texted a lot, but I had moved on.

I met 2 women from DIA. Both were in early 40s. Enjoyed my time with them. Turned down gifts. Only challenge was persistence. We do pay so we can get rid of.

Thought HK Cafe was best place to pick up. New Makati was poor. Noisy with very avaricious women. Quoted up to 5000 HKD for LT. However, all reduced when challenged. 2 girls said pay what I felt was worth, but general agreement about 1000 to 1500.

3 massages. Malissa on Lockhart Road was best sex for 500 including massage. She was not a looker, but really got into swing of things. The other 2 wanted me to extend to even get HJ.

I am back in March and looking forward to it.

Peter[/QUOTE]Can you please give more detail on Malissa on Lockhart Road? Thanks.

Johnny,

It is a massage outfit on Lockhart Road near OCH.

There are 2 businesses in the building offering massage. The other has better looking women I think, but girl from Malissa was keeping eye out and I went in.

2 women in their 30s. One in trousers and other in dress. I went for the 1 in trousers as she looked dirty. Agreed 129$ for hr massage.

Stripped and went face down. Woman whispers in ear. Do I want 2. No.

She gives good firm massage and manages to touch balls whilst doing both back and legs. 25 mins in and she has done sufficient touching for me to be raised from the table as I have such a hard on. When I turn over she is no longer in trousers. She wants extra 500$ for HR. I go exploring and by the time I am finished, it is 500$ all in for everything. She is nicely wet and very keen to have me inside. Definitely not a looker, but good masseuse and I got more than I expected.

Peter

K Pressure has been going down both in quality and terms of service since I first went years ago. It all depends on which girl you get and how you connect. Generally the first girl they offer you should be passed on. Its the normal trick where they flog you the person that hasn't been picked. But you connected which was good. I would have noted the girls name and asked to see some more. If the future ones don't have a connection, then you could always ask for the first one. But you run the risk that the first one may now be taken. Generally when I have settled on a girl, I will tell them how I like to play. I'd rather them know and accept than being surprised later.

I have also scoured the local forums to see which providers from any establishment gave good service and then seek to make a booking with them. I have not been disappointed. At the same time, I read a good recommendation for a 141 girl in Mongkok who loved to play and made a booking. My experience was not good.

At the end of the day, this hobby of ours comes with no guarantee of a good time. Hence the abbreviation in this forum. YMMV. Your skin color has nothing to do with it. The girls are free to accept or not accept the job.

Thanks for your report. In the future if you experience good or not so good service, please do share the provider's name so that fellow hobbyists know who to go for and whom to avoid.

Have fun and stay safe!

[QUOTE=ShamSagar; 1512028]I was in HK in the fist week of December.

I went K pressure at 10:00pm.

As the address and land mark provided in the forum helped me a lot. Went to second floor, they guided me to first floor.

She never gave a RIM instead asked me "You Fuck". She laying down, its ok but not that exiting. Then I turned to dogy and then again misss. And finished.

She was always asking to me to finish fast. No kiss, even she had no feminine odor, which was a turn off off for me. We were out of shower before the phone bell.

She was in a hurry. Total turn of.

I am an Indian, is this a reason for bad service

Looks 9/10.

Services 4/10.[/QUOTE]

Rann summed it up best.

Will add that K Pressure is a no frills service which suits some, but of course not all.

[QUOTE=Manfield04; 1512635]I stayed at Frangance Hotel Selegie at the beginning of this year. I paid over US$ 100 for a cramped 12 m2 room. No space to walk around, no window, can hear noise from the corridor, bathroom very small, hardly space for one person. No meal included.

Singapore hotels are really very expensive.

You can far better value hotels for the price of US$ 100 in Bangkok, Kuala Lumpur, Jakarta with breakfast included and a lot more facilities.

I have put a cross on Singapore now.[/QUOTE]Hong Kong is even more cramped and or expensive for hotel rooms than Singapore without the advantage of English being spoken so widely. So you might want to cross off that city, too, along with Tokyo & Macau.

Generally the poorer countries offer much more bang for your buck regarding value for girls, hotels, etc, with less of things such as safety, infrastructure & health care.

However the Fragrance chain in the Geylang area of Singapore has rooms for under half the price you paid.

In Vietnam one can easily get a 3 star hotel with 5 star service & English speaking staff for 20 percent of the price of a smaller 3 star room in Singapore or Hong Kong. Although the P4P scene in VN is illegal and may be a bit more challenging and dangerous.

Paying extra for a more upscale destination is like purchasing for insurance & the comforts that go along with it. Singapore is a city with virtually no crime, scams or worries for the typical tourist.

That being said, I am presently in LOS & thereafter headed to to VN. May eventually get back to SG or make my virgin trip to HKG.

[QUOTE=RyansWill; 1505684]I will be visiting HK for the first time and been enthusiastically reading the threads trying to get a grasp of the variety of possibilities there. Given I will be traveling with others, my time will be constrained, but hope to get in a little fun when I can.

Couple questions for you veterans:

1) Is there any action in the Sha Tin area? Will be staying out there for work and while having time to tour around other parts of the city, curious if there will be anything nearby.

2) What is the sauna scene like? Any particular places one would recommend for a non-Chinese speaking first-time visitor?

Been reading about 37 Dundas and that seems like a fairly easy place to manage. Are all the girls from mainland?

Appreciate any advice.

Thanks in advance,

RW[/QUOTE]****** site has providors in Shatin, but you are way out in the sticks. Unless your boss has decreed you stay out there, I suggest you stay in town and get up 30 mins earlier and take train to Shatin, then you have many more chances and variety.

Doubt that you will get any agencies sending ladies out to Shatin, and will be hard to get a girl back from a bar area. Independent providers are your best bet, but they will charge extra to counter the time factor.

[QUOTE=AussieDoug;1513101]****** site has providers in Shatin, but you are way out in the sticks. Unless your boss has decreed you stay out there, I suggest you stay in town and get up 30 mins earlier and take train to Shatin, then you have many more chances and variety.[/QUOTE]I agree! You should consider staying in town, closer to the action, if mongering is one of your main interests.

[QUOTE=Chantik; 1512407]Rann summed it up best.

Will add that K Pressure is a no frills service which suits some, but of course not all.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Ramn HK; 1512327]At the end of the day, this hobby of ours comes with no guarantee of a good time. Hence the abbreviation in this forum. YMMV. Your skin color has nothing to do with it. The girls are free to accept or not accept the job.

Thanks for your report. In the future if you experience good or not so good service, please do share the provider's name so that fellow hobbyists know who to go for and whom to avoid.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=ShamSagar; 1512028]No kiss, even she had no feminine odor, which was a turn off off for me. We were out of shower before the phone bell.

She was in a hurry. Total turn of.

I am an Indian, is this a reason for bad service[/QUOTE]IMHO, SS, she was timing things quite well to finish just before the bell. If you wanted more (and go past the bell) you could extend and get in what you wanted / expected and negotiated before hand with the managers. Like the curtained places, the managers will usually try to have the girl deliver the service requested or at least communicate the requested services. FWIW, there is no service guarantee with WGs and even with GFs. I have seen many WGs refuse guys of all races and social economic status; which rather surprised me at first.

As for feminine odor, I was fortunate to have an Indo girl in Bali this week with a rather nice musty smell that stuck on me for half the day even after washing. It was an interesting reminder to arrange repeat engagements, except for the peril of being noticed by others! LOL

Thanks for the replies. Regretfully, my time was limited, but did manage an hour at 37 Dundas (report posted in that thread). Fortunately the commute into the action wasn't too bad, so was able to check out some of the street traffic as well. Next trip I will make my own arrangements for staying and avoid Shatin at all costs.

RW

Dropped into Escape late evening. Wow. A total of 7 people. 3 guys and 4 guys. Then dropped into Spicy Fingers and only a few more people. Very quiet this evening in Wanchai.

Have tried three different areas over the last three months or so, and there is quite a lot of variation.

Fuji Building, Causeway Bay – went one early evening, surprisingly not that many punters around, but a few hanging around on a couple of floors obviously waiting for their favourite to become available. I don't understand this, if I knew a girl was being banged I wouldn't line up to get sloppy seconds, but maybe that's just me.

Ended up knocking on a door fairly randomly. I suspect that in a well traveled area like Causeway Bay most operators will open their door for a white guy like me, but I could also tell some relief when she realised that I speak Mandarin. Can't remember if the sign on the door said 500 or 600, but I stuck up five fingers and she ushered me in. Nice body (despite implants) and a nice attitude, but fairly routine. Having a mirror at one end of the bed was good.

Sham Shui Po.

Cheaper girls, but the one I had was older and fatter than the previous experience in Causeway Bay, but also cheaper at 300. It also wasn't a very nice room, not that that is important. You get what you pay for I suppose. Also a nice girl and tried to please (a long hand job since I wasn't going to finish by shagging) , but also not a lot of GFE. I felt I got value for money but wouldn't repeat in a hurry.

Her door was about the 3rd I had knocked on. I suspect that in this kind of area they see a lot less westerners and some of the girls would prefer just to service the locals.

No need to memorise an address, walk around a couple of blocks north of the MTR station and look carefully for yellow signs at entrances of apartment buildings.

Wanchai.

Went at lunchtime, and had a great experience with a girl who claimed to be back at work for the first time in 10 days. After kissing her breasts for a while she was well up for it, and we had a great GFE. Have been back twice subsequently and she is always very happy to see me and doesn't watch the clock. Sign says 600 but I always give her 500 with an extra tip, which she knows is for giving me a good time. Have her number and text her before coming so that she knows to be available.

The routine is always the same. Enter, undress, shower, shag, shower, pay, leave. Total about 45 mins unless you get lucky like with my Wanchai regular.

Summary and Recommendations – just relax and go without too many expectations. From my limited experiences have never been disappointed or ripped off, but some will give a fairly standard mechanical service (where they will still try hard to get the job done) while others might give you a pleasant surprise. Go earlier in the day if you can so that you are an early customer and not the 4th or 5th for the day (or 6th, or 7th.).

Don't feel intimidated, this is a very commonly frequented outlet for local punters and nobody will bat an eyelid. If a girl doesn't like you most likely she won't even open the door, so no loss. Just knock on another one.

A good way to bust a nut if you don't like noisy bars or the hassle of clingy Indo domestic helpers.

[QUOTE=Mianbao; 1515197]Summary and Recommendations – just relax and go without too many expectations. From my limited experiences have never been disappointed or ripped off, but some will give a fairly standard mechanical service (where they will still try hard to get the job done) while others might give you a pleasant surprise. Go earlier in the day if you can so that you are an early customer and not the 4th or 5th for the day (or 6th, or 7th.).

Don't feel intimidated, this is a very commonly frequented outlet for local punters and nobody will bat an eyelid. If a girl doesn't like you most likely she won't even open the door, so no loss. Just knock on another one.

A good way to bust a nut if you don't like noisy bars or the hassle of clingy Indo domestic helpers.[/QUOTE]Couldn't sum the scene up better myself.

Styk

Wishing all the horny guys a Happy Years punting.

Stay naughty.

Chantik.

X

[QUOTE=Mianbao;1515197]Fuji Building, Causeway Bay – went one early evening, surprisingly not that many punters around, but a few hanging around on a couple of floors obviously waiting for their favourite to become available. I don't understand this, if I knew a girl was being banged I wouldn't line up to get sloppy seconds, but maybe that's just me.[/QUOTE]With a WG it is always sloppy seconds, never think otherwise. It might be half an hour later or 2 or 6 hours later, but she showers after each guy and then showers with you before you fuck her so what's the difference?

[QUOTE=Johnny Rocket;1515400]With a WG it is always sloppy seconds, never think otherwise. It might be half an hour later or 2 or 6 hours later, but she showers after each guy and then showers with you before you fuck her so what's the difference?[/QUOTE]Psychologically, don't we all like to think we're the only ones going there.

Of course, they've been waiting around all day for you, and May or may not find you genuinely funny. Maybe.

Yeah right. Hahahah.

[QUOTE=Johnny Rocket;1515400]With a WG it is always sloppy seconds, never think otherwise. It might be half an hour later or 2 or 6 hours later, but she showers after each guy and then showers with you before you fuck her so what's the difference?[/QUOTE]The difference is she gets a chance to rest for a bit and have more energy for you. I once went to a massage parlor to see a favorite and she had just finished with someone and was walking him out. She came to me and said lets go. I jokingly told her lets wait a few minutes while it (her pussy) cools off. She laughed and said it was fine.

OK, my friend and I were having a debate. Can a Sunday girl force a guy, who doesn't live in hk, if they could identify them into a paternity test and force child support? I say yes, he says no. I told him even if I am wrong, that bomb will always be out there waiting to go off.

Some months ago, I happened to start chatting to an Indo DH at an exit to Causeway Bay MTR. To cut a long story short, we got together on a number of Sundays, and developed a great relationship (PI girls are very open to sex, but every Indo girl I have met has been a real nympho). She is 26.

Last Sunday she made an offer I really had to think about before refusing. She is 26, her parents are dead, and she has a 3 year old child in Indonesia (but she is in great shape) , and her ex-husband is in jail for drugs, She has a 23 year old unmarried sister with a 10 week old baby (the father totally deserted her).

The offer? Oh yes! If I would look after her, I could have her sister too! I actually spoke to the sister by phone to confirm. The downside is that this relationship would need to be in Indonesia (they would shift to anywhere I chose). They are both quite beautiful and not WGs. They just needed love and security.

What a temptation!

[QUOTE=Yhddude13;1515858]OK, my friend and I were having a debate. Can a Sunday girl force a guy, who doesn't live in hk, if they could identify them into a paternity test and force child support? I say yes, he says no. I told him even if I am wrong, that bomb will always be out there waiting to go off.[/QUOTE]In a bit of trouble are you? .

It depends on the country. Some countries will let foreigners try to get child support in their courts. Some will cooperate with a foreign court's request for testing / enforce child support. It is highly variable.

On CL about once a week there has been an ad advertising an incall at Star Mansion in TST. Many different firls' pictures have been used but always the same phone number. That is suspicious but I wonder if it could be something like a yellow sign place? Anyone know anything about this?

[QUOTE=Ikksman; 1515989]Some months ago, I happened to start chatting to an Indo DH at an exit to Causeway Bay MTR. To cut a long story short, we got together on a number of Sundays, and developed a great relationship (PI girls are very open to sex, but every Indo girl I have met has been a real nympho). She is 26.

Last Sunday she made an offer I really had to think about before refusing. She is 26, her parents are dead, and she has a 3 year old child in Indonesia (but she is in great shape) , and her ex-husband is in jail for drugs, She has a 23 year old unmarried sister with a 10 week old baby (the father totally deserted her).

The offer? Oh yes! If I would look after her, I could have her sister too! I actually spoke to the sister by phone to confirm. The downside is that this relationship would need to be in Indonesia (they would shift to anywhere I chose). They are both quite beautiful and not WGs. They just needed love and security.

What a temptation![/QUOTE]Sounds like a great deal. 2 Indo yung gals for all the fucking and sucking your old body can take for the next 5 yrs. Wait you may want some new tang.

Oh yeah add 2 kids to bring up hmmmm, that the 64k question.

PC out.

I pay them too leave, not stay

[QUOTE=Ikksman;1515989]Some months ago, I happened to start chatting to an Indo DH at an exit to Causeway Bay MTR. To cut a long story short, we got together on a number of Sundays, and developed a great relationship (PI girls are very open to sex, but every Indo girl I have met has been a real nympho). She is 26.Last Sunday she made an offer I really had to think about before refusing. What a temptation![/QUOTE]Supposing to take the offer seriously, I would have some questions or concerns:

A) age difference between you and her

B) will sex be sufficient binder to the relationship?

C) what kind of financial supported they expect (I expect the sister will have to be supported too) from you?

D) how much of an "ex" is her husband? What will happen when he is out of jail at some point?

E) what about the family behind (I believe there is a family behind, taking care, somehow, of her child)

F) how long will you be happy to be made happy by 3-somes?

G) can you be sure the "enlarged family" (she and her sister and kids) will not enlarge further? I can discount the main girl had the child from her husband (now I jail, for how long?) but the sister seemed to have had a sexual encounter (relationship? A one off turned into pregnancy?) , will she be subject to other ones, aware that anyhow there is a sort of sugar daddy behind?

H) Why is relocation in their home country is a condition? In a pinch, can't she have the child and her sister and baby relocate to where you are (and where probably you have your business / job running?)

I know. Too many questions.

I know of a case where an English guy (non Hk resident) found out after three years that an Indo lady he had been shagging had a baby. He wanted custody of the baby, hired an Indo lawyer, arranged meetings in Hk to find out that the lady had sold the baby to a childless couple.

[QUOTE=Johnny Rocket; 1516108]In a bit of trouble are you? .

It depends on the country. Some countries will let foreigners try to get child support in their courts. Some will cooperate with a foreign court's request for testing / enforce child support. It is highly variable.[/QUOTE]No, I'm fine. And, he isn't sure he isn't either. But, I figured this place would know how to settle this. He is American. Obviously, we aren't looking for a jury verdict. Just enough to get me a beer and him a lump in his throat. The one thing he does have going is that american immigration is so messed up, the future offspring will never show up at his front door, unless in a ups package.

I'm sure the brothers that have been there know this, but the Fuji Building on Lockhart Road is one big brothel. When you go on a 141 site (there's also one called new 141 dot com) , you see just a fraction of what's available there.

When I entered, it looked like a luxury apartment building, complete with security on the ground floor. The front elevators only go to the even floors. Just take the elevator to the top floor and walk down, Frankfurt Laufhaus-style. I saw a lot of HK guys ringing bells and shopping.

I had a cheat sheet with me with the girls I wanted to see, but I lost it, so I just rang on one door. I ended up with a girl who was less than 5" short, big boobs, and decent looking, so I asked for a price quote. She held up 5 fingers so I went in. She washed me, but had quite a few rules: don't touch the hair, no DATY ("Hong Kong girls no like") and strictly monitored the time. I'd had a couple of drinks, so I lasted longer and almost ran out of time. We did a couple of cowgirl positions, and I finished in a leaned-over reverse cowgirl. Her room number was 11 / F room A3.

Incidentally, there are signs all over saying your picture will be on YouTube if you break the rules, like steal stuff or take a leak in the hallway. There was one posted that reminds us that hugging and washing are chargeable acts.

When I led the building, I realized that it was lit up in a cheesy fashion, just like a brothel. I scanned the Forum and saw there seem to be a couple of other buildings that are also 100% 141.

[QUOTE=Ikksman; 1515989]The offer? Oh yes! If I would look after her, I could have her sister too! I actually spoke to the sister by phone to confirm. The downside is that this relationship would need to be in Indonesia (they would shift to anywhere I chose). They are both quite beautiful and not WGs. They just needed love and security.

What a temptation![/QUOTE]Become a muslim and you can marry them both.

[QUOTE=Yhddude13;1515858]OK, my friend and I were having a debate. Can a Sunday girl force a guy, who doesn't live in hk, if they could identify them into a paternity test and force child support? I say yes, he says no. I told him even if I am wrong, that bomb will always be out there waiting to go off.[/QUOTE]I think it will take one Google search to find a lawyer in the USA who will happily sue you for child support (and keep 50% of anything he can make you pay for himself).

[QUOTE=BionicMan; 1516193]Supposing to take the offer seriously, I would have some questions or concerns:

A) age difference between you and her

H) Why is relocation in their home country is a condition? In a pinch, can't she have the child and her sister and baby relocate to where you are (and where probably you have your business / job running?)

I know. Too many questions.[/QUOTE]Haha! I am not considering seriously! But I must admit I was tempted. Regarding relocation, How would I bring unrelated adults and their children to China, HK, or elsewhere? BTW I am in my 60s but of course only look 25!

Ikks

Does anyone know of any short term hotels west of Central?

Thanks

[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1516311]I think it will take one Google search to find a lawyer in the USA who will happily sue you for child support (and keep 50% of anything he can make you pay for himself).[/QUOTE]I don't think there are contingencies in these type of cases. But maybe, in international courts there are. I assume the court of jurisdiction is the court the child is located in. The question is whether us courts enforce on behalf of others. The other issue is whether he would be required to defend himself in that other country if he remained out of it. How would they serve him? How would they prove he was the father? In America I understand, in another country? There must be a way. I should probably ask the Thailand forum. It must be the land of knocked up bar girls. I was tempted to ask someone for real, but I don't want them to think its me I order to win a beer bet. You guys don't know who I am, so I spent give a shit if you think it's me.

[QUOTE=Yhddude13;1516235]No, I'm fine. And, he isn't sure he isn't either. But, I figured this place would know how to settle this. He is American. Obviously, we aren't looking for a jury verdict. Just enough to get me a beer and him a lump in his throat. The one thing he does have going is that american immigration is so messed up, the future offspring will never show up at his front door, unless in a ups package.[/QUOTE]There are international agreements for child support.

In Australia there is a whole government agency devoted to child support.

There are dozens of countries that have reciprocal arrangements with Australia, here are just a few of them:

Algeria.

Argentina.

Austria.

Barbados.

Belarus.

Belgium.

Bosnia and Herzegovina.

Brazil.

Burkina Faso.

Canada

Cape Verde.

Central African Republic.

Chile.

Colombia.

Croatia.

Cyprus.

Czech Republic.

Denmark.

Ecuador.

Estonia.

Fiji.

Finland.

Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia.

France.

Germany.

Greece.

Guatemala.

Haiti.

Holy See, The.

Hong Kong.

Hungary.

India.

Ireland.

Italy.

Kazakhstan.

Kenya.

Kyrgyzstan.

Liberia.

Lithuania.

Luxembourg.

Malawi.

Malaysia.

Malta.

Mexico.

Moldova.

Monaco.

Montenegro.

Morocco.

Nauru.

Netherlands.

New Zealand.

Niger.

Norway.

Pakistan.

Philippines.

Poland.

Portugal.

Romania.

Serbia.

Seychelles.

Sierra Leone.

Singapore.

Slovakia.

Slovenia.

South Africa.

Spain.

Sri Lanka.

Suriname.

Sweden.

Switzerland.

Tanzania (excluding Zanzibar)

Trinidad and Tobago.

Tunisia.

Turkey.

Ukraine.

United Kingdom (including Alderney, Gibraltar, Guernsey, Isle of Man, Jersey and Sark)

United States of America.

Uruguay.

Zambia.

Zimbabwe

Teltel

[QUOTE=Yhddude13;1516451]I don't think there are contingencies in these type of cases. But maybe, in international courts there are. I assume the court of jurisdiction is the court the child is located in. The question is whether us courts enforce on behalf of others. The other issue is whether he would be required to defend himself in that other country if he remained out of it. How would they serve him? How would they prove he was the father? In America I understand, in another country? There must be a way. I should probably ask the Thailand forum. It must be the land of knocked up bar girls. I was tempted to ask someone for real, but I don't want them to think its me I order to win a beer bet. You guys don't know who I am, so I spent give a shit if you think it's me.[/QUOTE]US courts decisions can be enforced via international agreements as can overseas courts decisions in the US, see my post following this one.

Teltel

[QUOTE=Ikksman; 1516358]Haha! I am not considering seriously! But I must admit I was tempted. Regarding relocation, How would I bring unrelated adults and their children to China, HK, or elsewhere? BTW I am in my 60s but of course only look 25!

Ikks[/QUOTE]Well. Happy you are not considering it seriously! LOL, but it is good for the debate and the records (when somebody will RTFF, eventually)

You are right on the fact that the "their home country" is probably the only option and it'd be easier for you to move there, than them move elsewhere. Unless you employ the two as DH. And ayou have a valid reason or means to stay in the country (be it China or HK or else)

If you are free as a bird job wise and are retired, then their home country can be an easy option, as long as you like the country and you do not think you can be screwed by the gals with some local law. (and a scam, even if later, is always a possibility to be taken into account)

Stop looking younger as otehrwise the gals will be uncomfortable to bed someone younger than themselves!

[QUOTE=Brown Rail; 1516396]Does anyone know of any short term hotels west of Central?

Thanks[/QUOTE]Have you tried Mingle Place At The Eden. 148 Wellington St? Technically in central but I think closer to Sheung Wan mtr.

WG

Normally I monger up in Suzhou, but I was in town for a few days and walked down the street to the 105-107 Queen's Road place just SW of Wan Chai (see it on Google Map's at 22. 284838, 114. 153314. Just take out the spaces after the decimal). Anyway, initially walked up one flight of stairs and knocked because the directions on 141 show it as 2F so I figured up one flight of stairs. No answer so I went up the next flight which turned out to be 1F, so 2F was one above that. There are two apartments there left and right, both have several rooms with walk-in service and prices / services posted on the door in English and Chinese, as well as a "please wait" or "open" on each door. I saw several promising looking photos, unblurred on the doors, but rather than go for one of those I took the one with the big "New Sexy Girl" on it as I like a surprise, for better or worse. It was the left hand door of the two, then to the right and down the hall, there is one door at the end and one on the left side right next to it, I chose the one on the left and was met with a pretty girl with too much make up on. She did things well and was really pleasant to talk to (I speak decent amounts of mandarin) , and she did the oil massage for 30 minutes, then playful for 5 or so until I was hard, then a 5 minute CBJ, then covered sex in a few positions until I was ready. Oh and she put on the school uniform for 50 RMB, worth it IMHO as I like doggie style and it adds to the flavor.

Anyway, total damage was 850, I am sure I overpaid and could have got my rock off with 400-500 just fine but I was feeling like taking my time and it was just great in the end. Good time and I suspect all of the girls up there are pretty good. My selection said she had been in Hong Kong about 4 years and was from Shenzhen originally, and her mandarin was just fine.

Good place if you are in the area and don't want anything too serious. I prefer that to having them come where I sleep and maybe get someone I don't like and feel like they have the negotiating power. Anyway, hope that helps some of you, enjoyed reading through the board, without 141 I would have been resorting to something even more expensive and probably much less worthwhile. I may even repeat tomorrow with a different gal.

Glad I ended my Asia trip this year with 2 days in Hong kong again.

The girls in NM are truly amazing. Not a freebee this time but 2 hours of erotic dancing in NM followed up by 4 rounds in my hotel room all for 1500.

I really can't complain.

Note that Eden is next to a busy bar. Its fine to visit during the day, but if you want discretion in the evening its not suitable.

Went to massagi place on Shanghai St this am. Got Linda sweet girl from Sichuan, beautiful BC cups with pointed nips just perfect.

Got the 1. 5 hr massagi, tasted her sweet pussy and god she was dripping. GFE without the penetration since it was first time LOL still worth it as I'm going to she her again outside the place.

Another older MILF in Mongkok. 2 pops with rimming for 800 hkd and 3 hrs with breakfast.

Saw old fav in TST for lunch yesterday.

God I'm almost like Osuul for studliness LOL just 5 pops but 48 hrs though as I'm old.

PC out

[QUOTE=Osuul; 1516722]Glad I ended my Asia trip this year with 2 days in Hong kong again.

The girls in NM are truly amazing. Not a freebee this time but 2 hours of erotic dancing in NM followed up by 4 rounds in my hotel room all for 1500.

I really can't complain.[/QUOTE]No shit 4 pops in 2 hours? Sure your not Superman in hiding Osuul LOL. I'm really envious now.

Heading to Macau tomorrow, detour for you?

PC out

Going to be visiting HK soon so checking out some of the sites. Had a look at miss148. Com. Since I'll be near the Jordan area, was wondering what kind of establishment is 66 Parkes Street?

Anyone tried Petty or Nutty there? Prices for services seems good compared to some og the massage parlours.

Not sure if shower is included in such places? Anyone can help?

Thanks.

I have read reports in the Chinese forums where punters have commented that some of the providers in this building are katoeys. Nutty certainly seems a little suspicious.

66 Parkes street appears to be a building with many providers. Don't like one, then go to the next unit. Shower should be provided.

Have fun. Stay safe and keep your eyes wide open.

[QUOTE=Slow Reloader; 1517902]Going to be visiting HK soon so checking out some of the sites. Had a look at miss148. Com. Since I'll be near the Jordan area, was wondering what kind of establishment is 66 Parkes Street?

Anyone tried Petty or Nutty there? Prices for services seems good compared to some og the massage parlours.

Not sure if shower is included in such places? Anyone can help?

Thanks.[/QUOTE]

Went here on impulse yesterday. It was the first time after a long break, partly due to less-positive reports recently on the forum. Was ushered into the usual dim, red-lit, wait-and-see room and brought a first offering who was rejected. Second girl was slim, spoke Cantonese, and the Mamasan assured gave good service. Had some doubts as there were no smiles but decided to take a punt, so booked for 75 minutes. Off upstairs, undressed, and into the shower. Very attentive, gentle wash, followed by an enthusiastic back and front standing soapy. Dried off and onto the bed. Other than a small ceasarian scar, barely visible in the low light, a pretty and blemish free body, with small A cups, gently produding nipples, nice legs, a natural muff (which I like) and sweet tasting pussy. Played with each other by hand, her moaning from the word go, at first a turn off, but then as I felt her and she got into it, she became so wet and so enthusiastic it was clear she was no longer faking. Had two rounds each of fingering then sucking, with her reaching at least one orgasm, as she grabbed my head and then held onto my hands tightly, arching her back as she came. Put the cover on and did cowgirl, legs over and mish before coming over her. Finished up holding each other tightly in a warm embrace. Not sure how long she is staying but worth taking if you like them slim and enthusiastic. Goes by the name of Tong-tong.

[QUOTE=Ramn HK; 1518078]I have read reports in the Chinese forums where punters have commented that some of the providers in this building are katoeys. Nutty certainly seems a little suspicious.

66 Parkes street appears to be a building with many providers. Don't like one, then go to the next unit. Shower should be provided.

Have fun. Stay safe and keep your eyes wide open.[/QUOTE]They don't have separate areas for transgenders. I don't want to be put off. LOL.

My schedule is kinda tight so I can only check out the Jordan area (closest) and perhaps nearby. Will research some more.

[QUOTE=Slow Reloader; 1518178]They don't have separate areas for transgenders. I don't want to be put off. LOL.

My schedule is kinda tight so I can only check out the Jordan area (closest) and perhaps nearby. Will research some more.[/QUOTE]Some of the places have no heater proved. Brrrrr at this time of the year. LOL.

Been checking out miss148. What does it mean when they say no heater provided? The room is not heater or the water is cold only?

[QUOTE=Wine Guy 247; 1516599]Have you tried Mingle Place At The Eden. 148 Wellington St? Technically in central but I think closer to Sheung Wan mtr.

WG[/QUOTE]Does the Eden have a short term rate? I am looking for an inexpensive place, like the guest houses in CWB or Mong Kong, where I can have a regular meet during a weekday afternoon.

Here comes my contribution after painstakingly having done the homework and having read the HKG trhread with lots of interest. I did it meticulously, with pleasure and well in advance to my trip. There was quite an amount of information. Had to adapt it to my personal preferences and set priorities.

Tuesday, around 10pm, New Makati, Lockhart Road, Wan Chai. Read great reports about this venue, gave it a try. Very dark inside, could hardly find my way around. As expected, full of Philippine birds. Had a beer, scanned around, one chick unintentionally stepped hard with her high heels onto my foot, apologized expecting any reaction on my part, turned my head away finishing my beer before leaving somewhat disgusted. It just didn't float my boat.

Headed off straight to Escape, corner Fenwick St / Jaffe Road, Wan Chai. That was a completely different story. The ladies there were definitely attractive, well dressed and somewhat educated. There were several ethnicities available. It was very hard to carry out any proper conversation due to the loud band performing some main stream crap. Got approached and greeted by Catalina from Colombia. That was going to be fun, given the fact that I'm speaking Spanish including some Colombian slang as I have lived in Bogotá for a while. We had a great conversation and got along very well. She was new in town after having spent some time in Bangkok which she detested. So do I meanwhile, unfortunately. Ordered cocktail for Catalina and Black Label for me; and yes, the girls on the premises get a commision from the drinks. In my opinion it would be a good idea to try to close the contract along the first drink. Otherwise the whole package could turn out exorbitant. She showed me some pics from her mobile phone featuring her in Colombia and Thailand. She was a charming gorgeous dark blonde latina of Spanish descent. Medium height, slightly strong body, distinctively boxom with very nice curvatures. Scrolling the photo gallery on her mobile phone we stumbled in passing over few nude pics of her, some of which revealed her secret delights quite explicitely. She acted somewhat ashamed and embarrassed however she wasn't reluctant letting me ogle at them. Charming and subtle marketing strategy! After that I promptly suggested a visit back to my hotel in Kowloon and started the talkings about the involved expenses. Catalina opened at 1. 5k HKD. I played the humble inconspicuous guy taking my time engaging charm and Colombian jokes. She eventually agreed on 1k HKD and off we went. The session was amazing, a hot passionate mess including all the disires of a horny cowboy. Juicy kissing with lots of tongue, oral on both sides 69 style, riding, pounding from behind until I shot off. The whole spectacle took around 2. 5 hrs after which she headed off leaving me a happy man.

Friday, around 10pm, Central. Enjoyed an out of this world beef brisket noodle soup and curry at Kau Kee on Gough St. After which I went for a stroll around the alleys of Lan Kwai Fong area. Pretty packed scenery. Lots of slaves to the wage mainly of Anglo-Saxon origin just escaped from the office towers celebrating weekend and boasting about their more or less successful deals. These wankers make me puke. Headed off to Escape again, entered and saw two Colombians chating at a table left from the entrance. One of them was especially cute, early 20s, had already spotted her past Tuesday. Approached and greeted them in Spanish after which I invited the young and nicely dressed (black stockings) Melanie from Medellín to another table. Ordered drinks (be cautious – these girls get a commission from usually overpriced cocktails). The Spanish conversation made her to feel more confortable and secure, so the bargaining went smoothly. She opended at 1. 5k HKD. I played the innocent poor guy again using lots of Colombian slang. Closed the deal at 1k HKD. Off to East Tsim Sha Tsui where my room was. Let her to embark the bed with her high heels. Passionate session, French kissing, prolonged reciprocal oral and finally missionary face to face. Everything went with the wave and might have taken around 2. 5 hrs before she left. As a bottom line I have to say that Hong Kong was a satisfying experience. Thanks to the worthful forum contributions I managed to find my way around HKG mongering scenery.

Check the photo gallery for pics!

Having read the forum I spent a few days in Wan Chai recently, my take on things. I visited a few bars and clubs all seemed the standard pick up places with mostly Fillipina and indo girls some attractive some not so, I did have the luxury of a DH I had met who in fact stayed with me for a couple of days & nights, she is Fillipina and great fun, we had much fun in and around the various bars, she did point out to me how the lady drinks worked, we went to HK cafe I ordered a drink she asked for what she wanted, we stayed a while danced and had fun on the way out she said I will get yr money back, so up to the bar she went and got back 100hkd, its 50hkd each drink for the girl and even the DH are in on the deal. Best to drink at places like Queen Vic or Old China Hand to avoid costly drinking sessions. I like Wan Chai and will return it has a good feel and most likely old hand mongers won't get ripped off, compared to one of my favourite mongering spots Orchard Towers Singapore I'd say its a little more relaxed and pricewise its similar really YMMV, another favourite of mine is Dubai which I think I prefer of the three, possibly because of the Africans whom I like and seem to do ok with.

That said I must say the DH factor in HK and even in Singapore is a plus, no better GFE than a girl who thinks she is yr girlfriend, the downside is you will break hearts and I'm only human and I certainly down get a kick out of that.

Dr

[QUOTE=Brown Rail;1518937]Does the Eden have a short term rate? I am looking for an inexpensive place, like the guest houses in CWB or Mong Kong, where I can have a regular meet during a weekday afternoon.[/QUOTE]Eden is a SHORT TIME hotel and offers similar rates to Villa Victoria. About $280 for 2 hrs. And its a better venue because they don't charge extra for a third person, like most other short time hotels.

Be careful about guest houses. Not all ladies visit them.

[QUOTE=Adimondo; 1519221. Pretty packed scenery. Lots of slaves to the wage mainly of Anglo-Saxon origin just escaped from the office towers celebrating weekend and boasting about their more or less successful deals. These wankers make me puke. .

![/QUOTE]Whilst there are a lot of the Hooray Henry types there, young epxats working in the financal sector is part of what makes HK tick. Perhaps you are unfamiliar with HK's role? Good report.

[QUOTE=Adimondo; 1519221]Here comes my contribution after painstakingly having done the homework and having read the HKG trhread with lots of interest. I did it meticulously, with pleasure and well in advance to my trip. There was quite an amount of information. Had to adapt it to my personal preferences and set priorities.

Tuesday, around 10pm, New Makati, Lockhart Road, Wan Chai. Read great reports about this venue, gave it a try. Very dark inside, could hardly find my way around. As expected, full of Philippine birds. Had a beer, scanned around, one chick unintentionally stepped hard with her high heels onto my foot, apologized expecting any reaction on my part, turned my head away finishing my beer before leaving somewhat disgusted. It just didn't float my boat.

Headed off straight to Escape, corner Fenwick St / Jaffe Road, Wan Chai. That was a completely different story. The ladies there were definitely attractive, well dressed and somewhat educated. There were several ethnicities available. It was very hard to carry out any proper conversation due to the loud band performing some main stream crap. Got approached and greeted by Catalina from Colombia. That was going to be fun, given the fact that I'm speaking Spanish including some Colombian slang as I have lived in Bogotá for a while. We had a great conversation and got along very well. She was new in town after having spent some time in Bangkok which she detested. So do I meanwhile, unfortunately. Ordered cocktail for Catalina and Black Label for me; and yes, the girls on the premises get a commision from the drinks. In my opinion it would be a good idea to try to close the contract along the first drink. Otherwise the whole package could turn out exorbitant. She showed me some pics from her mobile phone featuring her in Colombia and Thailand. She was a charming gorgeous dark blonde latina of Spanish descent. Medium height, slightly strong body, distinctively boxom with very nice curvatures. Scrolling the photo gallery on her mobile phone we stumbled in passing over few nude pics of her, some of which revealed her secret delights quite explicitely. She acted somewhat ashamed and embarrassed however she wasn't reluctant letting me ogle at them. Charming and subtle marketing strategy! After that I promptly suggested a visit back to my hotel in Kowloon and started the talkings about the involved expenses. Catalina opened at 1. 5k HKD. I played the humble inconspicuous guy taking my time engaging charm and Colombian jokes. She eventually agreed on 1k HKD and off we went. The session was amazing, a hot passionate mess including all the disires of a horny cowboy. Juicy kissing with lots of tongue, oral on both sides 69 style, riding, pounding from behind until I shot off. The whole spectacle took around 2. 5 hrs after which she headed off leaving me a happy man.

Friday, around 10pm, Central. Enjoyed an out of this world beef brisket noodle soup and curry at Kau Kee on Gough St. After which I went for a stroll around the alleys of Lan Kwai Fong area. Pretty packed scenery. Lots of slaves to the wage mainly of Anglo-Saxon origin just escaped from the office towers celebrating weekend and boasting about their more or less successful deals. These wankers make me puke. Headed off to Escape again, entered and saw two Colombians chating at a table left from the entrance. One of them was especially cute, early 20s, had already spotted her past Tuesday. Approached and greeted them in Spanish after which I invited the young and nicely dressed (black stockings) Melanie from Medellíand to another table. Ordered drinks (be cautious – these girls get a commission from usually overpriced cocktails). The Spanish conversation made her to feel more confortable and secure, so the bargaining went smoothly. She opended at 1. 5k HKD. I played the innocent poor guy again using lots of Colombian slang. Closed the deal at 1k HKD. Off to East Tsim Sha Tsui where my room was. Let her to embark the bed with her high heels. Passionate session, French kissing, prolonged reciprocal oral and finally missionary face to face. Everything went with the wave and might have taken around 2. 5 hrs before she left. As a bottom line I have to say that Hong Kong was a satisfying experience. Thanks to the worthful forum contributions I managed to find my way around HKG mongering scenery.

Check the photo gallery for pics![/QUOTE]Great reports, although I have to laugh at the irony of flying to HK to have two great sex sessions with girls from Colombia.

[QUOTE=Adimondo;1519221]Here comes my contribution [SNIP] Lots of slaves to the wage mainly of Anglo-Saxon origin just escaped from the office towers celebrating weekend and boasting about their more or less successful deals. These wankers make me puke.[/QUOTE]You do realise that many of the posters on this forum are Anglo-Saxon wage slaves? And of course, most work in the financial sector where deals are a way of life! And of course, Hong Kong was a British colony until 1997!

Why do you insult them?

We cannot all be business owners or financially independent non-Anglo-Saxons.

IMHO, if you had omitted these remarks from your post, most would congratulate on your very readable story, but of course wonder why, when you are in Honkers, you choose to copulate with Columbian WGs.

[QUOTE=Ikksman; 1520131]You do realise that many of the posters on this forum are Anglo-Saxon wage slaves? And of course, most work in the financial sector where deals are a way of life! And of course, Hong Kong was a British colony until 1997!

Why do you insult them?

We cannot all be business owners or financially independent non-Anglo-Saxons.

IMHO, if you had omitted these remarks from your post, most would congratulate on your very readable story, but of course wonder why, when you are in Honkers, you choose to copulate with Columbian WGs.[/QUOTE]And there is also the other side of the coin, that without all us Anglo-Saxon wage slave wankers, there wouldn't be all the fun available in Wanchai. The local guys have other venues for their needs. Have to chuckle and agree about the last statement above. I've done a few non-Asians during my years out here, but I live out here so occasionally a change is nice. But for the most part (all but 2) the girls have always been Asians and it's appropriate to try them when you're out this way. I recommend you give them a test. They can be addictive!

TT

[QUOTE=Adimondo; 1519221]Here comes my contribution after painstakingly having done the homework and having read the HKG trhread with lots of interest. I did it meticulously, with pleasure and well in advance to my trip. There was quite an amount of information. Had to adapt it to my personal preferences and set priorities.

Tuesday, around 10pm, New Makati, Lockhart Road, Wan Chai. Read great reports about this venue, gave it a try. Very dark inside, could hardly find my way around. As expected, full of Philippine birds. Had a beer, scanned around, one chick unintentionally stepped hard with her high heels onto my foot, apologized expecting any reaction on my part, turned my head away finishing my beer before leaving somewhat disgusted. It just didn't float my boat.

Headed off straight to Escape, corner Fenwick St / Jaffe Road, Wan Chai. That was a completely different story. The ladies there were definitely attractive, well dressed and somewhat educated. There were several ethnicities available. It was very hard to carry out any proper conversation due to the loud band performing some main stream crap. Got approached and greeted by Catalina from Colombia. That was going to be fun, given the fact that I'm speaking Spanish including some Colombian slang as I have lived in Bogotá for a while. We had a great conversation and got along very well. She was new in town after having spent some time in Bangkok which she detested. So do I meanwhile, unfortunately. Ordered cocktail for Catalina and Black Label for me; and yes, the girls on the premises get a commision from the drinks. In my opinion it would be a good idea to try to close the contract along the first drink. Otherwise the whole package could turn out exorbitant. She showed me some pics from her mobile phone featuring her in Colombia and Thailand. She was a charming gorgeous dark blonde latina of Spanish descent. Medium height, slightly strong body, distinctively boxom with very nice curvatures. Scrolling the photo gallery on her mobile phone we stumbled in passing over few nude pics of her, some of which revealed her secret delights quite explicitely. She acted somewhat ashamed and embarrassed however she wasn't reluctant letting me ogle at them. Charming and subtle marketing strategy! After that I promptly suggested a visit back to my hotel in Kowloon and started the talkings about the involved expenses. Catalina opened at 1. 5k HKD. I played the humble inconspicuous guy taking my time engaging charm and Colombian jokes. She eventually agreed on 1k HKD and off we went. The session was amazing, a hot passionate mess including all the disires of a horny cowboy. Juicy kissing with lots of tongue, oral on both sides 69 style, riding, pounding from behind until I shot off. The whole spectacle took around 2. 5 hrs after which she headed off leaving me a happy man.

Friday, around 10pm, Central. Enjoyed an out of this world beef brisket noodle soup and curry at Kau Kee on Gough St. After which I went for a stroll around the alleys of Lan Kwai Fong area. Pretty packed scenery. Lots of slaves to the wage mainly of Anglo-Saxon origin just escaped from the office towers celebrating weekend and boasting about their more or less successful deals. These wankers make me puke. Headed off to Escape again, entered and saw two Colombians chating at a table left from the entrance. One of them was especially cute, early 20s, had already spotted her past Tuesday. Approached and greeted them in Spanish after which I invited the young and nicely dressed (black stockings) Melanie from Medellíand to another table. Ordered drinks (be cautious – these girls get a commission from usually overpriced cocktails). The Spanish conversation made her to feel more confortable and secure, so the bargaining went smoothly. She opended at 1. 5k HKD. I played the innocent poor guy again using lots of Colombian slang. Closed the deal at 1k HKD. Off to East Tsim Sha Tsui where my room was. Let her to embark the bed with her high heels. Passionate session, French kissing, prolonged reciprocal oral and finally missionary face to face. Everything went with the wave and might have taken around 2. 5 hrs before she left. As a bottom line I have to say that Hong Kong was a satisfying experience. Thanks to the worthful forum contributions I managed to find my way around HKG mongering scenery.

Check the photo gallery for pics![/QUOTE]Nice report man! I will try to go to Colombia yo find Asian sex slaves next time. Most white guys I know like the Asian pussy cause it's all natural. LOL.

PC out

Queen Victoria has their birthday party at 7pm-9pm on Wednesday. 22nd. Free food and drinks for 2hrs. They were very generous in 2013.

Will there be an ISG table?

You may even see the lady featured in the latest photo gallery?

[url]http://world.time.com/2014/01/15/beaten-and-exploited-indonesian-maids-are-hong-kongs-modern-day-slaves/[/url]

Terrible story.

Remember, treat the girls good. Some of them are living a nightmare.

Met her at Nathan Road and Hamilton Road in YMTai. She has a great body for a MILF with perfect tits. Just a nice gal with skills. Spent 3 hrs there LOL $400 MOP, she likes me. We have chemistry.

PC out

I had this 161 walk up two years ago. Spent almost 3 nights with her. She gave me a card but I had misplaced it. I will be in Hong Kong for most of the month of Feb. If anyway can send me a pointer, I will greatly appreciate it.

[QUOTE=Le Grand]I had this 161 walk up two years ago. Spent almost 3 nights with her. She gave me a card but I had misplaced it. I will be in Hong Kong for most of the month of Feb. If anyway can send me a pointer, I will greatly appreciate it.[/QUOTE]I did see something going woof woof in the alley beside the Victoria Hotel last week. You might try looking there.

The only person who goes woof woof in the alley next to Victoria Hotel is the man's barber. The old Chinese chap does a good trade. I imagine that if you were waiting for a haircut, there would lots of coming and going from the side alley.

[QUOTE=Johnny Rocket;1516115]On CL about once a week there has been an ad advertising an incall at Star Mansion in TST. Many different firls' pictures have been used but always the same phone number. That is suspicious but I wonder if it could be something like a yellow sign place? Anyone know anything about this?[/QUOTE]To answer my own question:

[url]http://hongkong.craigslist.hk/vnn/4238789423.html[/url]

I had been curious about the ads because of the possibility of finding an Indian. Obviously this is to be avoided.

I spotted this ad some time back and referred a buddy of mine who is into Indian chicks. His response was and it does makes sense:

There's an Indian bloke who has apparently pissed some people off, and they constantly post ads on him warning others to stay away from him and his incessant phone calls. These same people are responsible for these ads on the Indian girls and the address on the ad happens to be this man's home address. I am told warnings about him have been going on for several years.

Your intuition is right. Stay away.

[QUOTE=Johnny Rocket; 1522680]To answer my own question:

[url]http://hongkong.craigslist.hk/vnn/4238789423.html[/url]

I had been curious about the ads because of the possibility of finding an Indian. Obviously this is to be avoided.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=John Smart;1522431]I did see something going woof woof in the alley beside the Victoria Hotel last week. You might try looking there.[/QUOTE]Why the insult? While this woman may never be a beauty contest winner, she's got a pretty impressive set of tits, and it's highly likely that the level of service she provides is higher than some of the high-priced skinny hotel girls in their early 20s. No guy would spend three nights with a girl, no matter how good looking, if the service provided was not good.

A muscular, handsome guy in his early 30s (like you) may easily do better than her, while a monger in his 60s or older (like me) may find this girl to be the perfect choice for a fun evening.

Besides, once the lights go out, most pussies look the same!

[QUOTE=Ramn HK; 1522867]I spotted this ad some time back and referred a buddy of mine who is into Indian chicks. His response was and it does makes sense:

There's an Indian bloke who has apparently pissed some people off, and they constantly post ads on him warning others to stay away from him and his incessant phone calls. These same people are responsible for these ads on the Indian girls and the address on the ad happens to be this man's home address. I am told warnings about him have been going on for several years.

Your intuition is right. Stay away.[/QUOTE]Does your buddy who is into Indian chicks have any tips to share? Because I've only ever been able to shag one Indian girl in HK, a bit expensive but worth every penny, but she just disappeared without a trace one day.

Rann is right.

Between the incessant ads re Kishu Khemlani, the HK woman who wants a billionaire, people posting the same adds 10 times, means punters have to sort through lots of posts. In saying that, HK is probably better than in some other Asian countries.

That girl Said who advertises on CL. Is she Indian?

Can tell you that ladies are reluctant to advertise they are Indian. Because they have the whole Indian population in HK making contact.

Unfortunately none. When I asked him, his words were,"No chicks, only oldies, ugly looking. I am also searching." That being said I did spot an Indian WG in Hari's about a year ago. And a buddy of mine scored a freebie at LKF. Of course you need the gift of gab for that.

Good luck!

[QUOTE=Johnny Rocket;1523022]Does your buddy who is into Indian chicks have any tips to share?[/QUOTE]

Hello, anyone interested in a "Mandarin mongerers meet?" This is for guys (of any origin) who are into Mandarin-speaking women (for P4P, freebies, and even real relationships). We can have a few drinks and casually chat about this interest we have in common, and share stories, hints and tips about our experiences in HK, the Mainland, and elsewhere. We can even cover topics like "how to argue with your girlfriend in Mandarin," LOL.

Let me know via PM if interested. My background is that I lived in China for a long time, and in HK on and off. I don't usually find friends in HK who share this particular interest, so I'm posting this message to meet and hang out with like-minded guys. Cheers!

[QUOTE=Ramn HK; 1523307]Unfortunately none. When I asked him, his words were,"No chicks, only oldies, ugly looking. I am also searching." That being said I did spot an Indian WG in Hari's about a year ago. And a buddy of mine scored a freebie at LKF. Of course you need the gift of gab for that.

Good luck![/QUOTE]Lots of Indians in LKF but getting a freebie there is a difficult task and non-pro Indians are typically very conservative. I consider trying to get laid (with any race) in LKF a complete waste of time. Maybe if I were a rich asshole banker or tried to act like one.

The part time indian WG I knew was just a uni student who worked on her holidays. She was hot, loved fucking and swallowed cum like it was chocolate milk. God I wish I could find her again.

Apologies for asking a question before my first informative report, but preparing for 1st trip to HKG and looking at the 141 site. What is meant by "Honey Girls" and "Young Buddies"?

Haven't found it other forum posts or in the accronym / abbreviations FAQs, but based on the categorization of walk-up girls which include addresses and Honey Girls which don't, I'm guessing it is simply a name for girls that do outcalls only?

This is my first report and was around a year ago.

Was on my way to escape when a girl standing outside Dragon Club said hello and asked me to come in for a drink. I'd never looked at this bar before but the girl was tall, pretty and wearing stocking and suspenders. Why not? Walked in and about from the bar maid we were the only people in there. She said her name was Luann, asked if what I wanted and if I would buy her a drink. Sure I said and so she got what looked like a thimble full of coke. As I sat down she surprised me by unzipping my trousers and taking me in her mouth without saying anything else. I was stunned. This went on for a couple of minutes before she sat up, downed the coke and asked for another one. Sure, go ahead. She went to the bar, got her drank and then came back and continued. After another couple of minutes the mamasan walked over and asked "she's very good isn't she?" One one hand I was impressed by the interest she took in customer satisfaction, on the other I just found the odd. Luann then put her head up and asked if I would buy mother a drink. Yes, anything to get her to go I thought. She looked pleased and walked off to the bar while Luann got back to work. Much I better I thought until mother returned and stood over us while drinking her drink. We had this uneasy standoff looking at each other until she finished and walked away. At this point I wanted to get out and so negotiated the price for ST. 2.5k but this girl was way above the norm in escape, makati etc. We walked to the nearest ST hotel. Ming Court. Note that this hotel is basically a dump although the mirrors on the ceiling are a nice touch. What followed was BBJ, sex in a variety of positions before my favourite of CiM.

Face: 9

Body: 9 slim yet curvy

Attitude: 9 Really very impressed.

No idea if she is still there but would recommend.

Greetings,

IBBob,"Honey Girls" and "Young Buddies" are the same, also known as "Hotel Walk Up".

These girls are waiting for you in a hotel room. When you call the given number, you will talk to their manager.

Maybe he can speak English, maybe not. You tell him the name of the girl you want to meet and the time, he will give you the name.

Of the hotel where you will meet her. About 30 minutes before the time, he will call you back to make sure you will come,

And will also give you the room number.

As far as I know, when you arrive you will have 45 minutes time for fun.

Happy hunting.

[QUOTE=Xx1234; 1524107]This is my first report and was around a year ago.

Was on my way to escape when a girl standing outside Dragon Club said hello and asked me to come in for a drink. I'd never looked at this bar before but the girl was tall, pretty and wearing stocking and suspenders. Why not? Walked in and about from the bar maid we were the only people in there. She said her name was Luann, asked if what I wanted and if I would buy her a drink. Sure I said and so she got what looked like a thimble full of coke. As I sat down she surprised me by unzipping my trousers and taking me in her mouth without saying anything else. I was stunned. This went on for a couple of minutes before she sat up, downed the coke and asked for another one. Sure, go ahead. She went to the bar, got her drank and then came back and continued. After another couple of minutes the mamasan walked over and asked "she's very good isn't she?" One one hand I was impressed by the interest she took in customer satisfaction, on the other I just found the odd. Luann then put her head up and asked if I would buy mother a drink. Yes, anything to get her to go I thought. She looked pleased and walked off to the bar while Luann got back to work. Much I better I thought until mother returned and stood over us while drinking her drink. We had this uneasy standoff looking at each other until she finished and walked away. At this point I wanted to get out and so negotiated the price for ST. 2.5k but this girl was way above the norm in escape, makati etc. We walked to the nearest ST hotel. Ming Court. Note that this hotel is basically a dump although the mirrors on the ceiling are a nice touch. What followed was BBJ, sex in a variety of positions before my favourite of CiM.

Face: 9.

Body: 9 slim yet curvy.

Attitude: 9 Really very impressed.

No idea if she is still there but would recommend.[/QUOTE]I'm glad to read that you wrote an informative report as your first post instead of just asking questions, but wow, it's hard to know whether or not to believe your report.

Assuming that you're telling the truth, a few questions:

- how much did you have to pay for the 3 drinks (2 for the girl, one for the mamasan)? Or were they included in the HKD 2, 500 dollars? My experience is that those non-alcoholic thimble-sized lady drinks can be expensive.

- who paid for the hotel, and if the answer is you, then how much did you have to pay for a ST room?

- how long was the ST session. One hour? Two hours? Longer? Did you ever feel rushed at any point? Was she GFE?

- you do realize that HKD 2, 500 is equivalent to over $300 US or around 240 Euros? IMHO that's a lot of money for a ST session.

I once paid under HKD 300 for a fantastic BBBJTCIM. I'm sure that your session lasted longer and that your girl was better looking than mine, but we both ended up receiving the same CIM finish.

P. S. It would have been interesting to, when the mamasan asked "she's very good, isn't she?", for you to answer "no" and see what the reaction would be. Better yet, say "no, but I bet you can do better" and see what happens.

[QUOTE=Mighty Spearsman;1524346]I'm glad to read that you wrote an informative report as your first post instead of just asking questions, but wow, it's hard to know whether or not to believe your report.[/QUOTE]Seems sketchy here for sure. First post about something from a year ago? Looks like a typical shill.

[QUOTE=Mighty Spearsman; 1524346]- how much did you have to pay for the 3 drinks (2 for the girl, one for the mamasan)? Or were they included in the HKD 2, 500 dollars? My experience is that those non-alcoholic thimble-sized lady drinks can be expensive.

- who paid for the hotel, and if the answer is you, then how much did you have to pay for a ST room?[/QUOTE]I would suspect everything was overpriced, just like the 2. 5K HKD fee. Scammer.

[QUOTE=Mighty Spearsman;1524346]P. S. It would have been interesting to, when the mamasan asked "she's very good, isn't she?", for you to answer "no" and see what the reaction would be. Better yet, say "no, but I bet you can do better" and see what happens.[/QUOTE]While it could be interesting to see what mamasan says in response, but I'd certainly say "no" when my cock is NOT in the girl's mouth. Just a general precaution that I would want to take. Haha

More validity to this report than some others.

It's very common for the girls at the velvet bars to give BBBJ (in the bar) when its quiet.

That price for The Dragon Club is about right.

I do know the Manager of Dragon Club.

[QUOTE=Mighty Spearsman; 1524346]I'm glad to read that you wrote an informative report as your first post instead of just asking questions, but wow, it's hard to know whether or not to believe your report.

Assuming that you're telling the truth, a few questions:[/QUOTE]I have long avoided these clubs, convinced that they are a total rip-off. But I recently visited one on Lockhart Road, and now I can confirm they are a total rip-off. They're not really fun, since they usually don't even have any (topless) dancing, however I was told the girls will dance topless for a short time if they have a customer and someone is watching the door.

In the place I went,

- A beer was HK $110.

- A lady drink (Coca-Cola) was $250.

The official price for a take-out was $2, 000 short-time, $3, 000 long-time, I recall. However, if it's late at night or business is slow, you can get a "discount." I got a sweet Filipina from about 2:00 am To 10:00 am For $1, 600. She told me that she owes like $10K to the mama san and is working to repay the debt and make it into the black at the end of her tour.

My questions to the members of the Board are:

* Are any of these places any fun (at any price)? A friend did make some positive comments about the Dragon Club.

* Are any clubs more likely to have (topless) dancing (other than in Macau)?

* Do any underground clubs exist? (I don't know of any, but they must exist. PM me.)

[QUOTE=Le Grand;1522321]I had this 161 walk up two years ago. Spent almost 3 nights with her. She gave me a card but I had misplaced it. I will be in Hong Kong for most of the month of Feb. If anyway can send me a pointer, I will greatly appreciate it.[/QUOTE]This looks like the gal calling herself PuPu Mom, she is on the 148 site.

GL.

[url]http://www.miss148.com/eng/girl.php?GID=12328[/url]

Wait maybe not, this gals tits are much smaller. Look at this one though huge mammary glands lol

http://161sex.com/english.php

Ladies who work in the Velvet bars get 6 month ' Entertainment Visas ' so they have time to pay off any debts.

1600 for an all-nighter is good value. Hard to get this in a Wanchai bar.

After reading a lot about it in the Forum I finally had to see for myself. It is easy to find and I knew what to expect. The Mamasan explained the details for me as firsttimer and in came a tall, slim girl with a nice face, who spoke only Chinese. She was kind of shy so I prefered to see the next one. In came a chunky, short girl with big tits. My immediate thought: Oh no, not her! She was absolutely not shy, spoke some english and was eager to get things going. Her tits with long nipples were really turning me on, so I said: why not.

In the room shower and body massage on the slippery mattress, cowgirl without penetration, Spanish and BBBJ, even rimming. On the bed my fingers probed her pussy and her wetness proved that her moaning was not only fake, but she really enjoyed a good sized european dick, as she kept telling me. The silent TV with japanese porn can be an additional turn on. After all a really good fuck.

[QUOTE=Solitude70; 1524139]Greetings,

IBBob,"Honey Girls" and "Young Buddies" are the same, also known as "Hotel Walk Up".

These girls are waiting for you in a hotel room. When you call the given number, you will talk to their manager.

Maybe he can speak English, maybe not. You tell him the name of the girl you want to meet and the time, he will give you the name.

Of the hotel where you will meet her. About 30 minutes before the time, he will call you back to make sure you will come,

And will also give you the room number.

As far as I know, when you arrive you will have 45 minutes time for fun.

Happy hunting.[/QUOTE]Thank you sir. Will report back after I've sampled the local fare. If my trip is confirmed, I am at risk of being stationed at an airport area hotel, which I believe would make things much more complicated / pricey. But hoping for the best.

You're welcome.

Just take the MTR to go everywhere you like, it will only take you a little time to reach your destination.

I will arrive next week for my first time in Honk Kong, I only hope that the hotel-wifi will not cut me off from this source of information.

[QUOTE=Chantik; 1524665]More validity to this report than some others.

It's very common for the girls at the velvet bars to give BBBJ (in the bar) when its quiet.

That price for The Dragon Club is about right.

I do know the Manager of Dragon Club.[/QUOTE]Thank you. Not sure what people think I have to gain by making it up. Not the friendliest welcome to the forum. Maybe I should have asked where 37 dundas was instead.

To the other questions.

Don't remember how much the tiny glass of coke was, but around 200. Drinks cost on top of the bar fine.

Ming court was 400 I think but again was a year ago so not sure. My advice is to keep walking to victoria hotel up the road. Much nicer.

2.5k was a lot but she was extremely pretty, had a great figure and was a lot of fun to talk to. It was a time when I had the money available and the experience to me was worth it. Compared to my visits to fuji mansion at 500/600 a time I know which I would choose but thats for another report.

[QUOTE=IBBob;1525021]Thank you sir. Will report back after I've sampled the local fare. If my trip is confirmed, I am at risk of being stationed at an airport area hotel, which I believe would make things much more complicated / pricey. But hoping for the best.[/QUOTE]If you are stationed at an airport hotel, keep in mind that you can pay the one-way fare on Airport Express that includes a free return trip if you return the same day. This makes it a lot more affordable to head into town (either Kowloon or Hong Kong Island) for the evening for a good meal plus some mongering. Just make sure you get to one of the downtown stations before the last train of the night (sometime around midnight, depends on the station) leaves to go to the airport.

Another possibility is to try to talk your company into paying for a hotel room in town, might be the same price or even cheaper than the hotels at the airport. I once stayed at the Regal Airport Hotel that's connected to the airport terminal and it was not cheap (although it was nice and awfully convenient).

[QUOTE=Xx1234;1525279]Thank you. Not sure what people think I have to gain by making it up. Not the friendliest welcome to the forum. Maybe I should have asked where 37 dundas was instead.[/QUOTE]Apologies for doubting you. However, if you stick around the forums you can see trolls who pretend to have these amazing sessions with girls. It's their first and only posting, and many details are missing in the hopes that some of the readers will just go try it out. Your post hit some similar vibes, so that's where things came from. Glad to see you are an actual punter!

Cheers.

TT

I generally pop into one or more of these clubs every trip. Provided you are sensible, you can have some fun without breaking the bank. However, it is very "hit and miss". The fact that you had a good time yesterday does not guarantee the following day. My advice is to go when quietish and there is special offer on drink. I pay between 28 and 40 HKD for a beer. If girl joins me and is friendly, providing access to pussy and touching me up, I buy drink. Never more than 200 per drink. Tip. Remember that they always add 10% to everything. I have been offered BBBJ in every one and costs have varied from 700 to 1000. ST has never been more than 1500.

Generally, I have found the Thai girls to be more active / keen sexually, but the Pinays better GFE if they like you. .

Do not be afraid to go in to the clubs or back out if you do not like. The dancing is desultory at best. Not worth the price of the drinks.

Unlike Soho or Frankfurt, I have never had a problem leaving if I did not like. The girls may touch you up or hold on but that is no hardship.

Peter

[QUOTE=Xx1234;1525279]Thank you. Not sure what people think I have to gain by making it up. Not the friendliest welcome to the forum. Maybe I should have asked where 37 dundas was instead.[/QUOTE]Welcome to ISG, where anything goes.:D

Sounds like you had quite an adventure. Look forward to reading more of your posts!

[QUOTE=Solitude70; 1525250]You're welcome.

Just take the MTR to go everywhere you like, it will only take you a little time to reach your destination.

I will arrive next week for my first time in Honk Kong, I only hope that the hotel-wifi will not cut me off from this source of information.[/QUOTE]The internet is not censored in HK like it is in mainland China. You should have no problems accessing this or any other site.

Found a keeper in the Fuji Bldg. Ling Ling in 1 / F flat B3. She isn't listed on 141. There are very few Fuji Bldg girls listed on 141 right now, which is strange. The place is still WG central I can assure you.

Sweet girl, nice personality. Speaks decent English. While CBJing me I asked her to get into 69 position so I could look at her pussy up close. She said she didn't want me to lick or finger her but she enjoys rubbing the clit. Well ok then. Man did she ever enjoy it. Collapsed on me as she came. And took my plowing in several positions with ease. While I was on top and supporting myself above her, she kept bending her neck up so she could look down and watch me pounding her. Told me she likes to see it. My kind of girl.

Recommended.

On the other hand I TOFTT in Phoenix Bldg which is also in CWB close to Times Square. I can't remember the exact apartment number and she isn't listed on 141, but if you go to the 5th floor and walk the long open-air hallway to the opposite side and turn left, then go all the way to the end and turn left again you will see her door. Nothing remarkable that made it bad, just one of those girls you sometimes find in 141s that you know in 30 years will be hobbling down the street muttering to herself and will knock over your vegetable stand if you don't sell her bok choy for HKD 3 per bunch instead of HKD 4. (I saw this happen once.)

Happy CNY everyone.

I am not much of a field reporter but thought I would share some Hong Kong info. It is pretty easy to monger here. You have street action that are mostly Africans on Luard road in Wan chai. You have bar action which is a mix of cultures but a lot of Thai, Indo and fillipino. With the occasional CIS and Latin girl thrown in. Most of this is on Jaffe Road also in Wan Chai. Then you have the walk ups and finally standard hotel 2 call in call system called 'young buddies'.

My best success was with bar girls in Wan Chai. On 2 diffrent times I pulled out Thai girls for LT $1600HKD. Each session was 4 hours and full GFE with the second one falling into PSE as she begged for CIF. Some advice, the hot girls start the night at $4K HKD but as gets into the 2am time frame the price starts to drop. So prepare to stay up late.

I also tried the Fuji building. The quality is suprisingly good and for $400hkd I had a good 45 minutes with a very pretty local girl. Talking was an issue but the action was good. She gave a good BBBJ and allows multiple positions. She was on the 11th floor. It is strange ringing all those bells. Also all the girls have cameras that show you to them. In general any one that has welcome written on the door services nonlocals.

Finnally I also tried a CIS hotel girl. This was expensive at $1300hkd. The pictures were correct so that is good. The girl was from Ukraine. I speak some Russian so was able to get BBBJ but she made it clear that this was not normal in the end the session was good but not excellent. Most of these hotels where these 'young buddies' stay are on Nathan Road in the Jordan District.

[QUOTE=GuyThatLikesStuf; 1526099]I am not much of a field reporter but thought I would share some Hong Kong info. It is pretty easy to monger here. You have street action that are mostly Africans on Luard road in Wan chai. You have bar action which is a mix of cultures but a lot of Thai, Indo and fillipino. With the occasional CIS and Latin girl thrown in. Most of this is on Jaffe Road also in Wan Chai. Then you have the walk ups and finally standard hotel 2 call in call system called 'young buddies'.

My best success was with bar girls in Wan Chai. On 2 diffrent times I pulled out Thai girls for LT $1600HKD. Each session was 4 hours and full GFE with the second one falling into PSE as she begged for CIF. Some advice, the hot girls start the night at $4K HKD but as gets into the 2am time frame the price starts to drop. So prepare to stay up late.[/QUOTE]You don't have to wait until 2 am to bring hot girls down from their initial asking price. You just have to make it clear that you are neither a tourist nor an idiot nor an American sailor who doesn't care how much he spends on shore leave, and that you are not spending $4K on a piece of pussy regardless of how hot the face attached to it is.

[QUOTE=Petertaylor; 1525383]I generally pop into one or more of these clubs every trip. Provided you are sensible, you can have some fun without breaking the bank. However, it is very "hit and miss". The fact that you had a good time yesterday does not guarantee the following day. My advice is to go when quietish and there is special offer on drink. I pay between 28 and 40 HKD for a beer. If girl joins me and is friendly, providing access to pussy and touching me up, I buy drink. Never more than 200 per drink. Tip. Remember that they always add 10% to everything. I have been offered BBBJ in every one and costs have varied from 700 to 1000. ST has never been more than 1500.

Generally, I have found the Thai girls to be more active / keen sexually, but the Pinays better GFE if they like you. .

Do not be afraid to go in to the clubs or back out if you do not like. The dancing is desultory at best. Not worth the price of the drinks.

Unlike Soho or Frankfurt, I have never had a problem leaving if I did not like. The girls may touch you up or hold on but that is no hardship.

Peter[/QUOTE]Sounds like you're talking about the "strip clubs" vs. The WG bars like New Makati, et al? If so I had a similar experience on my last trip. I was always a bit afraid of venturing in, assuming they were clip joints like you find in Soho in London, or in Pigalle in Paris. But I was pleasantly surprised that they seem to be much more relaxed and no thugs around to inflate the bill and intimidate you into paying. The prices are out of line compared to the WG bars, but if you just want a quick drink and a little touchy-feely under the table, fun can be had. I didn't stay long the one time I dropped in, but it was fun. I even surreptitiously got the phone # of one of the girls I was sitting with (got to be careful because that's apparently a strict no-no and if Mamasan knows what's going on the girl will get in trouble). I never called her, but it goes to show that at least some of the girls are willing to meet outside the clubs on their own time (and for much less $$, of course).

Well if you are a tourist, idiot or American sailor and unable to convince a WG that you are none of the above. Hold off until 2am and then they will believe you and the price will drop. And perhaps if you ever go back to Hong Kong they will remember that you are a not a tourist, idiot or American sailor and the price will be good before 2am.

I had a bit of spare time over the weekend, so decided to do some field research on backdoor providers in the walk-ups. Turned out to be a total bust, as everyone was out for the new year holiday, but I thought I'd share the details for those interested.

I used 161 and 148 as you can search for services, and then checked Chinese-language forums for mentions of the girls. All the ones I visited were listed as working during the new year holiday. The majority of the girls doing this were on Kowloon side. I visited one in Sheung Wan (Bibi in 123 Bonham Strand) but her apartment was all closed.

So I started in Sham Shui Po, as a lot of the girls listed on 161 were there, and some offered an impressive range of services. I hit numbers 143 (Rainbow, Wong Yangyang) .122 (May) .126 (Yoyo) .126 (Coco) .130 (Jiajia) , then moved on to Tai Nan road, tried number 321 (1st floor C-2 and C-1) .303 (Anna). All unavailable (not there) despite being listed on 161 as working that day. 148 had a few options but the best seemed 220 Fa Yuen street, which a few local forums mentioned as having a few girls who will open up the back garden. That apartment was open, but the girl I was looking for (Amy) was not there, and the others were all either out or occupied.

So, not a successful day. But since I'd spent the time to collect the information I thought I should share it. You can find which room these girls are in pretty easily by searching for the building on 161 or 148. Even though it felt like God had decided I wouldn't get to play today, I decided to have one last try and negotiate for special service at one of the KTV brothels. I went past 500 Shanghai street (shut) .37 Dundas (also shut) and K-Pressure (open, but the girls offered were so ugly I wouldn't fuck them with my worst enemy's dick).

Anyone have any suggestions for how to find guaranteed anal providers. Short of going to the airport and getting on a flight to Bangkok? I know some of the bar girls in Wanchai can be persuaded, but I don't have time to hang around in bars all evening trying to negotiate this with someone who's not experienced at it.

Peace and goodwill.

[QUOTE=PopeFrancis; 1526911]I had a bit of spare time over the weekend, so decided to do some field research on backdoor providers in the walk-ups. Turned out to be a total bust, as everyone was out for the new year holiday, but I thought I'd share the details for those interested.

I used 161 and 148 as you can search for services, and then checked Chinese-language forums for mentions of the girls. All the ones I visited were listed as working during the new year holiday. The majority of the girls doing this were on Kowloon side. I visited one in Sheung Wan (Bibi in 123 Bonham Strand) but her apartment was all closed.

So I started in Sham Shui Po, as a lot of the girls listed on 161 were there, and some offered an impressive range of services. I hit numbers 143 (Rainbow, Wong Yangyang).122 (May).126 (Yoyo).126 (Coco).130 (Jiajia) , then moved on to Tai Nan road, tried number 321 (1st floor C-2 and C-1).303 (Anna). All unavailable (not there) despite being listed on 161 as working that day. 148 had a few options but the best seemed 220 Fa Yuen street, which a few local forums mentioned as having a few girls who will open up the back garden. That apartment was open, but the girl I was looking for (Amy) was not there, and the others were all either out or occupied.

So, not a successful day. But since I'd spent the time to collect the information I thought I should share it. You can find which room these girls are in pretty easily by searching for the building on 161 or 148. Even though it felt like God had decided I wouldn't get to play today, I decided to have one last try and negotiate for special service at one of the KTV brothels. I went past 500 Shanghai street (shut).37 Dundas (also shut) and K-Pressure (open, but the girls offered were so ugly I wouldn't fuck them with my worst enemy's dick).

Anyone have any suggestions for how to find guaranteed anal providers. Short of going to the airport and getting on a flight to Bangkok? I know some of the bar girls in Wanchai can be persuaded, but I don't have time to hang around in bars all evening trying to negotiate this with someone who's not experienced at it.

Peace and goodwill.[/QUOTE]You sure are cool about sex for a pope.

[QUOTE=PopeFrancis; 1526911]I had a bit of spare time over the weekend, so decided to do some field research on backdoor providers in the walk-ups. Turned out to be a total bust, as everyone was out for the new year holiday, but I thought I'd share the details for those interested.

I used 161 and 148 as you can search for services, and then checked Chinese-language forums for mentions of the girls. All the ones I visited were listed as working during the new year holiday. The majority of the girls doing this were on Kowloon side. I visited one in Sheung Wan (Bibi in 123 Bonham Strand) but her apartment was all closed.

So I started in Sham Shui Po, as a lot of the girls listed on 161 were there, and some offered an impressive range of services. I hit numbers 143 (Rainbow, Wong Yangyang).122 (May).126 (Yoyo).126 (Coco).130 (Jiajia) , then moved on to Tai Nan road, tried number 321 (1st floor C-2 and C-1).303 (Anna). All unavailable (not there) despite being listed on 161 as working that day. 148 had a few options but the best seemed 220 Fa Yuen street, which a few local forums mentioned as having a few girls who will open up the back garden. That apartment was open, but the girl I was looking for (Amy) was not there, and the others were all either out or occupied.

So, not a successful day. But since I'd spent the time to collect the information I thought I should share it. You can find which room these girls are in pretty easily by searching for the building on 161 or 148. Even though it felt like God had decided I wouldn't get to play today, I decided to have one last try and negotiate for special service at one of the KTV brothels. I went past 500 Shanghai street (shut).37 Dundas (also shut) and K-Pressure (open, but the girls offered were so ugly I wouldn't fuck them with my worst enemy's dick).

Anyone have any suggestions for how to find guaranteed anal providers. Short of going to the airport and getting on a flight to Bangkok? I know some of the bar girls in Wanchai can be persuaded, but I don't have time to hang around in bars all evening trying to negotiate this with someone who's not experienced at it.

Peace and goodwill.[/QUOTE]Dam the Pope can't get laid in HK, now that's blasphemy? Pope, you should shed the robe and then all the cute and older Chinese gals will come running. I have never been to that many places as you mentioned and been left with blue balls. Why did you? Last trip I fucked young old, middle and in between at many places and not once got shut out.

PC out

[QUOTE=Pcpc1688; 1527286]Dam the Pope can't get laid in HK, now that's blasphemy? Pope, you should shed the robe and then all the cute and older Chinese gals will come running. I have never been to that many places as you mentioned and been left with blue balls. Why did you? Last trip I fucked young old, middle and in between at many places and not once got shut out.

PC out[/QUOTE]Very few girls working Chinese new year. There are lonely freebies about though, I can tell you firsthand.

[QUOTE=Pcpc1688; 1527286]Dam the Pope can't get laid in HK, now that's blasphemy? Pope, you should shed the robe and then all the cute and older Chinese gals will come running. I have never been to that many places as you mentioned and been left with blue balls. Why did you? Last trip I fucked young old, middle and in between at many places and not once got shut out.

PC out[/QUOTE]Well, I had numerous ladies seeking communion with me. But I really wanted to indulge in a little sodomy, and the girls with that particular vice were all off. Any tips on where to find these would be great.

Peace on earth and goodwill to all men.

The Good Old Pope has overlooked the obvious when seeking a provider of anal.

I always thought ISG was helpful.

[QUOTE=Johnny Rocket;1527300]Very few girls working Chinese new year. There are lonely freebies about though, I can tell you firsthand.[/QUOTE]Rocket,

Where were all the lonely freebies hanging this CNY? I would like to see some as some 141 gals became free so to speak last trip.

PC out

I dropped in to Escape / Makati / HK Cafe after midnight to hand out my RED envelopes. Bad luck as none of the chosen people were at work. It was quiet. Makati was the busiest, but still quiet, and Escape was dead. I suppose it was a Monday which is usually the quietest night of the week. Will have to try again later in the week to get rid of my RED envelopes.

[QUOTE=Chantik; 1507830]What's the story with all these prodomme's on CL.

Spoke to a couple of Domme mates and we wonder what is happening.[/QUOTE]My dear,

If they are pro dommes then I am a nun. I've contacted a couple (like all good Catholics I have some interest in budism) and there are several obvious issues:

1. Photos stolen from other ads appearing in more than one city.

2. Short responses. No serious attempt to figure out what I would enjoy (which you'd always get from an experienced mistress)

3. Bad answers to any questions on safety and hygiene.

Best case, opportunists who have bought a whip and a strapon trying to charge higher prices. Worst case, scam. Either way, avoid.

There are good dommes in this town but these are not among them.

[QUOTE=PopeFrancis; 1526911]Anyone have any suggestions for how to find guaranteed anal providers. Short of going to the airport and getting on a flight to Bangkok? I know some of the bar girls in Wanchai can be persuaded, but I don't have time to hang around in bars all evening trying to negotiate this with someone who's not experienced at it.

Peace and goodwill.[/QUOTE]There's a local girl who advertises on CL quite a bit. She says she's a 3-holer. Some large sort of butterfly tats on the pelvis so you can easily recognize her ads there. No idea what she charges.

Good luck there.

TT

[QUOTE=The Tanuki; 1527739]There's a local girl who advertises on CL quite a bit. She says she's a 3-holer. Some large sort of butterfly tats on the pelvis so you can easily recognize her ads there. No idea what she charges.

Good luck there.

TT[/QUOTE]Hi Tanuki,

You mean Pumpkin? I've heard quite a bit about her but never dared try her. Apparently she was a protege of Bobo, a middle-aged local who offered various extreme services. Other girls warned me off the pair of them. Curious if anyone here tried.

[QUOTE=PopeFrancis; 1526911]I had a bit of spare time over the weekend, so decided to do some field research on backdoor providers in the walk-ups. Turned out to be a total bust, as everyone was out for the new year holiday, but I thought I'd share the details for those interested.

I used 161 and 148 as you can search for services, and then checked Chinese-language forums for mentions of the girls. All the ones I visited were listed as working during the new year holiday. The majority of the girls doing this were on Kowloon side. I visited one in Sheung Wan (Bibi in 123 Bonham Strand) but her apartment was all closed.

So I started in Sham Shui Po, as a lot of the girls listed on 161 were there, and some offered an impressive range of services. I hit numbers 143 (Rainbow, Wong Yangyang).122 (May).126 (Yoyo).126 (Coco).130 (Jiajia) , then moved on to Tai Nan road, tried number 321 (1st floor C-2 and C-1).303 (Anna). All unavailable (not there) despite being listed on 161 as working that day. 148 had a few options but the best seemed 220 Fa Yuen street, which a few local forums mentioned as having a few girls who will open up the back garden. That apartment was open, but the girl I was looking for (Amy) was not there, and the others were all either out or occupied.

So, not a successful day. But since I'd spent the time to collect the information I thought I should share it. You can find which room these girls are in pretty easily by searching for the building on 161 or 148. Even though it felt like God had decided I wouldn't get to play today, I decided to have one last try and negotiate for special service at one of the KTV brothels. I went past 500 Shanghai street (shut).37 Dundas (also shut) and K-Pressure (open, but the girls offered were so ugly I wouldn't fuck them with my worst enemy's dick).

Anyone have any suggestions for how to find guaranteed anal providers. Short of going to the airport and getting on a flight to Bangkok? I know some of the bar girls in Wanchai can be persuaded, but I don't have time to hang around in bars all evening trying to negotiate this with someone who's not experienced at it.

Peace and goodwill.[/QUOTE]What's your budget? If you are willing to spend more, it might be worth your time to check out the agents and hotel girls. You have to pay significantly more than 141 but don't have to waste your time hunting. Plus the agents can update you online or via wechat. I tried a couple of times and find the girls worth the money. Cheers

[QUOTE=Solitude70; 1525250]You're welcome.

Just take the MTR to go everywhere you like, it will only take you a little time to reach your destination.

I will arrive next week for my first time in Honk Kong, I only hope that the hotel-wifi will not cut me off from this source of information.[/QUOTE]You can access ISG as well as 141/161 websites via your cellphone. I'd recommend you get a pay as you go sim with a short term 3G plan. Well worth the money to check the girls on the go.

Thank you, and thanks to Johny Rocket too.

Internet works fine, both hotel wifi and my new smartphone sim.

I prefer to watch those "interestingt" pages via notebook, so the hotel wifi is important for me.

Reports will follow.

My first report.

Took a walk-up to Pinky in the southern building. 257-273 King's Road, Fortress Hill.

She is available on the 141 pages.

Pictures should be real.

Pro: Fluent English.

Contra: CBJ, no kissing, bad massage.

She talks in english and she talks alot. Kind of crazy girl, but in a positive way.

Nice body, nice face, nice be-cups imo.

I guess she would be fun to take here out for a drink.

Damage for full service: 520.

More to follow.

[QUOTE=Solitude70; 1528188]My first report.

Took a walk-up to Pinky in the southern building. 257-273 King's Road, Fortress Hill.

She is available on the 141 pages.

Pictures should be real.

Pro: Fluent English.

Contra: CBJ, no kissing, bad massage.

She talks in english and she talks alot. Kind of crazy girl, but in a positive way.

Nice body, nice face, nice be-cups imo.

I guess she would be fun to take here out for a drink.

Damage for full service: 520.

More to follow.[/QUOTE]Thanks for a good report. Yes, she looks like she has a pretty face and a nice body from the 141 photos.

The following is the price list from her 141 page:

HK$ 520 BM+Whole package.

HK$ 620 Massage+BM+Whole package (60mins)

HK$ 720 Massage+BM+Whole package+Special service (90mins)

Since you wrote that she gave a bad massage, one could joke that that was part of the $520 = BM (Bad Massage) + Whole Package, LOL.

Seriously, I have a couple of questions, for Solitude or anyone else who might know (Chantik?) :

What's the difference between the $520 and the $620 package? One guess is that the $520 package lasts less than 60 minutes and that the massage is perfunctory.

What might the $720 special service be? Is that a code for anal?

[QUOTE=PopeFrancis; 1527744]Hi Tanuki,

You mean Pumpkin? I've heard quite a bit about her but never dared try her. Apparently she was a protege of Bobo, a middle-aged local who offered various extreme services. Other girls warned me off the pair of them. Curious if anyone here tried.[/QUOTE]Don't recall seeing a name associated with the ads in CL. Here is a current link to one:

[url]http://hongkong.craigslist.hk/cas/4291285609.html[/url]

Personally I've been leery of trying her out as well. Not really sure why.

TT

[QUOTE=The Tanuki; 1528522]Don't recall seeing a name associated with the ads in CL. Here is a current link to one:

[url]http://hongkong.craigslist.hk/cas/4291285609.html[/url]

Personally I've been leery of trying her out as well. Not really sure why. .

TT[/QUOTE]Hi Tanuk,

Yes that's her. I think your intuition on this one is probably right.

Never come across Miss P in any setting even though a couple of my GF's have done 3somes with her. My closest to a meeting was when a long time client from Melbourne, Australia organised a 3some with me and Miss P. She cancelled an hour before the meeting saying that she had blood. Anyway the GENT was suspicious and then sent answered her add (in front of me) on CL using a different email address. Anyway they exchanged emails and she said she could meet that day. We both laughed and joked that Miss P must be scared of me.

Prices at 141/161. My understanding is that the service offers one shot only, whereas I offer multiple shots. Bear in mind that most guys do 1 or 2 shots in an hour. Though you get the odd freak who can do 3.

[QUOTE=The Tanuki; 1527739]There's a local girl who advertises on CL quite a bit. She says she's a 3-holer. Some large sort of butterfly tats on the pelvis so you can easily recognize her ads there. No idea what she charges.

Good luck there.

TT[/QUOTE]I was curious and sms'd her. Received a 15 sms reply with a menu of sorts. Bottom line, cheapest option was HKD2000. For the same money I can do several 141 girls (anal included). I passed. She seems to think it's something special that she's HK 'born and bred'. Yawn.

Hey all,

I am an American and will be travelling to Hong Kong in March. I have mongered in Asia before (Malaysia) , but have most of my experience in Europe and the US. I have done some cursory research through this forum but am not really interested in anything but outcall to my hotel. I have done some internet searches and have seen the following services:

[url]http://www.hk-glamourgirls.com/[/url]

[url]http://www.escortshongkong.asia/[/url]

The challenge here is that none of these places discuss prices. I will send them email inquiries, but I was wondering if anyone has experience with outcall agencies and can provide some price comparisons.

The prices I have seen in this forum seem to largely focus on incalls to a girls apartment or going to clubs, etc. The prices seem to fluctuate quite a bit from what I have read, depending on how late it is in the evening, how many hours, etc.

So does anyone have any experience with outcall agencies? Are the girls as advertised? What are expected prices for short term and long term?

Any help is appreciated. I will continue to research the forum to see if there is any info that folks have already put out.

[QUOTE=Pcpc1688; 1527380]Rocket,

Where were all the lonely freebies hanging this CNY? I would like to see some as some 141 gals became free so to speak last trip.

PC out[/QUOTE]As far as I know there isn't a particular place where they all hang out. I tend to avoid the bars, Soho / LKF type areas though I'm told there are some there. It is more down to random chance and being able to read girls face and body language to see who might be approachable.

[QUOTE=The Tanuki; 1527739]There's a local girl who advertises on CL quite a bit. She says she's a 3-holer. Some large sort of butterfly tats on the pelvis so you can easily recognize her ads there. No idea what she charges.

Good luck there.

TT[/QUOTE]I e-mailed her once just to see what's what. If I recall she was $2000 for a session. I don't like tattoos and just didn't get the vibe I wanted from her. But I don't think there's anything wrong with her either. I'm pretty sure she's a real woman unlike many of the "girls" advertising on CL.

[QUOTE=Mike921;1528593]I was curious and sms'd her. Received a 15 sms reply with a menu of sorts. Bottom line, cheapest option was HKD2000. For the same money I can do several 141 girls (anal included). I passed. She seems to think it's something special that she's HK 'born and bred'. Yawn.[/QUOTE]I'd say the opposite. Most HK girls I can do without. Though a few who have white fever and will give it away for free, like a freebie I'm seeing right now. They're alright by me. Hehehe

[QUOTE=Johnny Rocket;1528688]I'd say the opposite. Most HK girls I can do without. Though a few who have white fever and will give it away for free, like a freebie I'm seeing right now. They're alright by me. Hehehe[/QUOTE]I have gotten friendly with quite a few freebies in HK, see my previous reviews, but my BSE (Best Shag Ever) also happens to be a local, she's the female version of me LOL.

[QUOTE=Slow Reloader;1518784]Been checking out miss148. What does it mean when they say no heater provided? The room is not heater or the water is cold only?[/QUOTE]There is no hidden meaning. It means that your balls might freeze off.

[QUOTE=SinjinSwift; 1528673]Hey all,

I am an American and will be travelling to Hong Kong in March. I have mongered in Asia before (Malaysia) , but have most of my experience in Europe and the US. I have done some cursory research through this forum but am not really interested in anything but outcall to my hotel. I have done some internet searches and have seen the following services:

[url]http://www.hk-glamourgirls.com/[/url]

[url]http://www.escortshongkong.asia/[/url]

The challenge here is that none of these places discuss prices. I will send them email inquiries, but I was wondering if anyone has experience with outcall agencies and can provide some price comparisons.

The prices I have seen in this forum seem to largely focus on incalls to a girls apartment or going to clubs, etc. The prices seem to fluctuate quite a bit from what I have read, depending on how late it is in the evening, how many hours, etc.

So does anyone have any experience with outcall agencies? Are the girls as advertised? What are expected prices for short term and long term?

Any help is appreciated. I will continue to research the forum to see if there is any info that folks have already put out.[/QUOTE]Hi,

You could try sexyescorts. Com or adultwork. Com or craigslist. Com or girl-directory. Com or backpage. Com. Or you could even check the classifieds in the Hk Section. There tend to be more independent operators on these sites.

[QUOTE=The Tanuki; 1528522]Don't recall seeing a name associated with the ads in CL. Here is a current link to one:

[url]http://hongkong.craigslist.hk/cas/4291285609.html[/url]

Personally I've been leery of trying her out as well. Not really sure why.

TT[/QUOTE]Here's her latest, this time she uses the name "Pumpkin":

[url]http://hongkong.craigslist.hk/cas/4295663034.html[/url]

I'm leery too. Next time I'm in HK I'll call Chantik instead.

[QUOTE=Slow Reloader;1518784]Been checking out miss148. What does it mean when they say no heater provided? The room is not heater or the water is cold only?[/QUOTE]Most of the time HK is warm or hot, but in February it can get pretty cold, and most buildings do not have any central heating, so people need to have a small electric heater to warm up their apartment. I remember being in HK for Chinese New Year 2005 and it was around 5 degrees Celsius at night, not what the average tourist would expect.

[QUOTE=Slow Reloader; 1517902]Going to be visiting HK soon so checking out some of the sites. Had a look at miss148. Com. Since I'll be near the Jordan area, was wondering what kind of establishment is 66 Parkes Street?

Anyone tried Petty or Nutty there? Prices for services seems good compared to some og the massage parlours.

Not sure if shower is included in such places? Anyone can help?

Thanks.[/QUOTE]I was at 66 last month. Not really an 'establishment', just the typical tenement building with very slow elevators. I went to a girl on the 5th floor, usual routine, assisted shower, sex, assisted shower. Never have been to a 141 without shower.

[QUOTE=Mighty Spearsman; 1528995]Here's her latest, this time she uses the name "Pumpkin":

[url]http://hongkong.craigslist.hk/cas/4295663034.html[/url]

I'm leery too. Next time I'm in HK I'll call Chantik instead.[/QUOTE]You won't be disappointed if you call Chantik!

[QUOTE=Johnny Rocket;1529008]You won't be disappointed if you call Chantik![/QUOTE]I agree.

I saw her twice in January and she was wonderful.

She remember what I liked.

[QUOTE=SinjinSwift; 1528673]Hey all,

I am an American and will be travelling to Hong Kong in March. I have mongered in Asia before (Malaysia) , but have most of my experience in Europe and the US. I have done some cursory research through this forum but am not really interested in anything but outcall to my hotel. I have done some internet searches and have seen the following services:

[url]http://www.hk-glamourgirls.com/[/url]

[url]http://www.escortshongkong.asia/[/url]

The challenge here is that none of these places discuss prices. I will send them email inquiries, but I was wondering if anyone...[/QUOTE]The reply I have received so far from one of the agencies quoted $6,000 hkd per hour and $30,000 hkd per night. WTF! Needless to say, I will not be indulging at that price point. This is far more expensive than in Europe or the US. It's even more expensive than London, which I considered quite expensive.

Escorts are multiple times too expensive in HK relative to ******. Com, or 168. Com, but you will have no trouble in walking about Wanchai or Tsimshatsui in the evening and watching for eye contact. Then bargain. Well worth the experience.

Ray B.

[QUOTE=SinjinSwift; 1528673]Hey all,

I am an American and will be travelling to Hong Kong in March. I have mongered in Asia before (Malaysia) , but have most of my experience in Europe and the US. I have done some cursory research through this forum but am not really interested in anything but outcall to my hotel. I have done some internet searches and have seen the following services:

[url]http://www.hk-glamourgirls.com/[/url]

[url]http://www.escortshongkong.asia/[/url]

The challenge here is that none of these places discuss prices. I will send them email inquiries, but I was wondering if anyone has experience with outcall agencies and can provide some price comparisons.

The prices I have seen in this forum seem to largely focus on incalls to a girls apartment or going to clubs, etc. The prices seem to fluctuate quite a bit from what I have read, depending on how late it is in the evening, how many hours, etc.

So does anyone have any experience with outcall agencies? Are the girls as advertised? What are expected prices for short term and long term?

Any help is appreciated. I will continue to research the forum to see if there is any info that folks have already put out.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SinjinSwift;1529140]The reply I have received so far from one of the agencies quoted $6,000 hkd per hour and $30,000 hkd per night. WTF! Needless to say, I will not be indulging at that price point. This is far more expensive than in Europe or the US. It's even more expensive than London, which I considered quite expensive.[/QUOTE]This is similar to Australian prices. And they are about the most expensive in the world. You can do much better!

[QUOTE=Chantik;1529365]This is similar to Australian prices. And they are about the most expensive in the world. You can do much better![/QUOTE]Oh, man, I have mongered in Australia and spent nowhere near that. This was in Melbourne.

Just to provide some comparison, the quote I received for Hong Kong (6000 HKD) is equal to about $775 USD. In Australia it cost me roughly $400 USD and in the US I can monger for between $200. 350 USD. In London I found great quality for between 300. 400 USD (150. 200 GBP). In Malaysia I spent 150 USD on a bar girl. She came back to my hotel, we had sex then went to sleep. Woke up in the morning and had sex again.

The Malaysian girl was not up to my usual standards, but she was acceptable.

Just to give you all some more color, in the US a typical overnight price starts around 1000 USD. The Hong Kong price of $775 USD was for 1 hour!

Another comparison for you. You can hire a mainstream porn star in the US to shoot a movie for around 1000 USD!

So I guess I just can't stress highly enough how out of line this escort pricing is. I may decide to either not monger at all, or try the bar girls. Very frustrating though. Who the hell has the income to afford 800 USD for an escort without being smart enough to know that it is way overpriced?

[QUOTE=SinjinSwift;1529140]The reply I have received so far from one of the agencies quoted $6,000 hkd per hour and $30,000 hkd per night. WTF! Needless to say, I will not be indulging at that price point. This is far more expensive than in Europe or the US. It's even more expensive than London, which I considered quite expensive.[/QUOTE]I am begging you not to feed the ripoff artists. Those prices are 5 times too high at a minimum, depending on the girl they're offering.

[QUOTE=Johnny Rocket;1529427]I am begging you not to feed the ripoff artists. Those prices are 5 times too high at a minimum, depending on the girl they're offering.[/QUOTE]And here's the worst part: the girls that you get through the escort website services in HK are on average less good-looking, less skilled and less accommodating than the girls you can pick up in Wanchai, bang in a sauna, or even most of the 141 walk-ups.

Support free enterprise and small business. Get a freelancer!

[QUOTE=Johnny Rocket;1529427]I am begging you not to feed the ripoff artists. Those prices are 5 times too high at a minimum, depending on the girl they're offering.[/QUOTE]Don't worry. As I said, I am not paying those kinds of prices. Who would? Who is paying this?

[QUOTE=SinjinSwift; 1529424]Oh, man, I have mongered in Australia and spent nowhere near that. This was in Melbourne.

Just to provide some comparison, the quote I received for Hong Kong (6000 HKD) is equal to about $775 USD. In Australia it cost me roughly $400 USD and in the US I can monger for between $200. 350 USD. In London I found great quality for between 300. 400 USD (150. 200 GBP). In Malaysia I spent 150 USD on a bar girl. She came back to my hotel, we had sex then went to sleep. Woke up in the morning and had sex again.

The Malaysian girl was not up to my usual standards, but she was acceptable.

Just to give you all some more color, in the US a typical overnight price starts around 1000 USD. The Hong Kong price of $775 USD was for 1 hour!

Another comparison for you. You can hire a mainstream porn star in the US to shoot a movie for around 1000 USD!

So I guess I just can't stress highly enough how out of line this escort pricing is. I may decide to either not monger at all, or try the bar girls. Very frustrating though. Who the hell has the income to afford 800 USD for an escort without being smart enough to know that it is way overpriced?[/QUOTE]I go to Australia to work two or three times a year so I am familiar with the prices. Australia is known as one of the most expensive places for punting in the world. Especially in the area of independent escorts. My Aussie GUYS often complain how expensive. I don't blame them. Yes, you can get ladies for $400 hr or even cheaper, but I answered your post in the contex,t that you quoted two websites that suggested high class companions, hence my post about Aussie prices. Anyway on average the Aussie Escort charges more than the English escort. You could try the eroticreview. Com. It has a selection of reviews from throughout the world. Or you could even try punterplanet. Com. You may even find a review of me. Anyway, I've given you a list of sites that may help you. Finally, I suggested in my post that you could do much better.

[QUOTE=SinjinSwift; 1529424]Oh, man, I have mongered in Australia and spent nowhere near that. This was in Melbourne.

So I guess I just can't stress highly enough how out of line this escort pricing is. I may decide to either not monger at all, or try the bar girls. Very frustrating though. Who the hell has the income to afford 800 USD for an escort without being smart enough to know that it is way overpriced?[/QUOTE]The fact you never spent such an amount doesn't mean there is people who can have spent that, that there is a group of people who can spend that, whether we like it or not. High profile businessmen are used to high profile pricing (I didn't say high quality.)

[QUOTE=PopeFrancis; 1529610]And here's the worst part: the girls that you get through the escort website services in HK are on average less good-looking, less skilled and less accommodating than the girls you can pick up in Wanchai, bang in a sauna, or even most of the 141 walk-ups.

Support free enterprise and small business. Get a freelancer![/QUOTE]It would be amusing explaining to these governments around the world that you support small government and business by going with freelancers. Haha.

[QUOTE=Petertaylor; 1512180]Johnny,

It is a massage outfit on Lockhart Road near OCH.

There are 2 businesses in the building offering massage. The other has better looking women I think, but girl from Malissa was keeping eye out and I went in.

2 women in their 30s. One in trousers and other in dress. I went for the 1 in trousers as she looked dirty. Agreed 129$ for hr massage.

Stripped and went face down. Woman whispers in ear. Do I want 2. No.

She gives good firm massage and manages to touch balls whilst doing both back and legs. 25 mins in and she has done sufficient touching for me to be raised from the table as I have such a hard on. When I turn over she is no longer in trousers. She wants extra 500$ for HR. I go exploring and by the time I am finished, it is 500$ all in for everything. She is nicely wet and very keen to have me inside. Definitely not a looker, but good masseuse and I got more than I expected.

Peter[/QUOTE]Peter,

Thanks for the tip, seems they all game one, tried the dress one. You need hint them and warm them up and must negotiate like hell. She started 800 for touching on top of the massage, which was quoted 184. Good massage BTW, Thai and oil. Not a looker, bit fat but very nice firm tits. After she realised a 600 HJ would not happen we negotiated the full package all inclusive. After she wanted come my hotel, hehe. So this is a nice central alternative but needs some work and the environment just curtained off May not be everyone's dish. However not all Thai massage shops seem to offer extras, went a day later to the one besides Queensway 105 and it was all veggie but for 88 who would complain.

Hk is expensive but has quite a few options.

FA.

BTW if anyone could recommend a good soapy preferably on HK island, info would be appreciated, something like KPressure but maybe a little more upscale? Search and RTFF did not provide me with an answer. Post here or pm, all can, thanks!

[QUOTE=PopeFrancis;1529610]And here's the worst part: the girls that you get through the escort website services in HK are on average less good-looking, less skilled and less accommodating than the girls you can pick up in Wanchai, bang in a sauna, or even most of the 141 walk-ups.[/QUOTE]And I guess you know this from personal experience.

I doubt it. The high class and expensive services don't even advertise because the maitre d's of the 5 star hotels can access the best of the best, so unless you have paid $1000 AUD for company for a few hours you cannot comment.

I have a good friend who is a CEO of a major Australian company.

He always uses top-class escort services arranged by his hotels and he has described some of them to me. He has also been out with me to Manila bars (a few years ago now) and he felt that nobody he saw came even close to the high class and quality girls he accesses through his sites.

Nothing anyone says here will change either the pricing or the propensity for some guys who CAN afford it to access exclusive and stunning escorts for high prices.

Just let them be and don't get excited or angry because some guys can afford it and others cannot.

Found another gem in the Fuji Building. Can't remember if it was 12th or 13th floor, but she was in the flat all the way to the right as you come out of the lift, her name is Tiffany and there is a sign on her door that says "naughty nurse." She didn't have a nurse outfit, it turns out she used to be a nurse in a Chinese medicine doctor and bonesetter's clinic. She's in her 40s but in fantastic shape and with a younger face, no wrinkles or sag anywhere, has very nice g-string tan lines and really enjoyed the sex. Speaks fluent English and has a fantastic attitude. Good CBJ and took one of my signature poundings really enjoying it. Too bad all HK girls aren't as nice as her.

She did ask me to pay first which I found unusual, and I noticed new signs in the building corridors saying "please pay first." If that is the new 141 policy that's really too bad because of the risk of getting stiffed or poor service from girls you've already paid. But I paid and this time it worked out. I guess we don't have a choice if that is the policy.

None of the other 3 girls in the Fuji Building that I would repeat were there today. I guess they are on long CNY holidays, but Gigi the 6th floor Indo hasn't been there for 3+ weeks, though her door still looks the same. Anyone happen to know when she might return? I know there is at least one other poster on this forum who is a fan of hers. If I can see her again I'll have to remember to get her number.

[QUOTE=Johnny Rocket;1530301]Found another gem in the Fuji Building. Can't remember if it was 12th or 13th floor, but she was in the flat all the way to the right as you come out of the lift.[/QUOTE]I think the (front) elevator goes to the even-numbered floors, unless there's another elevator somewhere that goes to the odd floors.

[QUOTE=Johnny Rocket;1530301]. Gigi the 6th floor Indo hasn't been there for 3+ weeks, though her door still looks the same. Anyone happen to know when she might return? I know there is at least one other poster on this forum who is a fan of hers. If I can see her again I'll have to remember to get her number.[/QUOTE]I went looking for the Indo provider a couple of weeks ago, and her neighbor told me that she had returned to her home country. It could have been disinformation to get me to see her instead, though.

2 lifts in Fuji, one goes to even floors and one goes to odd floors.

I hope Gigi isn't gone.

[QUOTE=Chantik;1529679]I go to Australia to work two or three times a year so I am familiar with the prices. Australia is known as one of the most expensive places for punting in the world. Especially in the area of independent escorts. My Aussie GUYS often complain how expensive. I don't blame them. Yes, you can get ladies for $400 hr or even cheaper, but I answered your post in the contex,t that you quoted two websites that suggested high class companions, hence my post about Aussie prices. Anyway on average the Aussie Escort charges more than the English escort. You could try the eroticreview. Com. It has a selection of reviews from throughout the world. Or you could even try punterplanet. Com. You may even find a review of me. Anyway, I've given you a list of sites that may help you. Finally, I suggested in my post that you could do much better.[/QUOTE]I appreciate the input. That's what these forums are about, right, sharing info? I am merely sharing with everyone that there is decent punting to be had in the UK and Aus for $400 USD or less, based on my travels. I am looking for high quality, so your suggestions and links are appreciated. It also helps to know that I can do better, and in fact I have gotten replies from other agencies that are roughly half as much.

This has generally been around 3,000 hkd for 1 hr. 5,000 hkd for 2 hrs, and 7, 000 hkd for 3 hrs.

This still sounds a bit expensive for Asia, but at least this puts it closer to my experiences in the US and the UK. I would like to try out wan chai, I just don't know how much of a chance I will have to go looking around.

In any case I appreciate any advice, and especially anyone who has had experience with any of the Hong Kong escort agencies directly.

The other thing I have been considering is an outcall massage. There seem to be a number of outcall Nuru massage providers available. Just wondering about the quality of the looks of the masseuses.

[QUOTE=Petertaylor;1525383]I pay between 28 and 40 HKD for a beer. If girl joins me and is friendly, providing access to pussy and touching me up, I buy drink. Never more than 200 per drink. Tip. Remember that they always add 10% to everything. I have been offered BBBJ in every one and costs have varied from 700 to 1000. ST has never been more than 1500.[/QUOTE]You can get much lower price on beer as selling beer is not their main business nor the main cost. Do as you suggested, shop the beer price before walking in to a place with the prettiest girls.

[QUOTE=Xx1234;1525279]2.5k was a lot but she was extremely pretty, had a great figure and was a lot of fun to talk to. It was a time when I had the money available and the experience to me was worth it. Compared to my visits to fuji mansion at 500/600 a time I know which I would choose but thats for another report.[/QUOTE]IMHO, the girls are usually better quality (looks and service) at those places. It is a real no-nonsense high pressure sales tactics when getting rubbed, stroked and fondled by multiple girls while negotiating. Slow things down and interview one girl at a time. If you know what you want, the mamasan will help guide you as which girl is better. If you liked the girl, arrange a private afternoon meeting at a much lower price.

[QUOTE=Johnny Rocket;1527300]There are lonely freebies about though, I can tell you firsthand.[/QUOTE]There are always lonely freebies around. Tough part is finding them when you need release. One reason to keep the numbers of those 30+ single moms!

[QUOTE=Jsxyz;1526565]I even surreptitiously got the phone # of one of the girls I was sitting with.but it goes to show that at least some of the girls are willing to meet outside the clubs on their own time (and for much less $$, of course).[/QUOTE]After the OK bars and curtained places close, some of the girls hit the bars. I prefer afternoon meetings before their shift as they are rested, you can get a good look at them in the daylight, and it is easier for them to slip away.

[QUOTE=Jdbkk555;1520694]Sometimes the world is strange. I just arrived I to HK this morning....
I leave 1000hkd on the table in clear site, next too my pants. As we are cleaning up, I notice not a single movement to pick up the money. I'm wondering what's going on. As we are just too step out the door, she tells me I left money on the table and to pick it up. So I do, and we walk back to the MTR station....My good fortune.[/QUOTE]Good one! I only met complete strangers (no photos) a couple times at MTR exits and it is pretty funny as we head to a hotel within 10 minutes as the purpose of the rendevous is well established. I always insist on giving them money, partly to ease my guilt. Non have resisted to my just putting it in the purse or down their pants (pockets)! LOL I just say I do not have time to take you out for dinner so please have dinner with your friends on me.

[QUOTE=Johnny Rocket;1530618]I hope Gigi isn't gone.[/QUOTE]She's alive and kicking, or slapping. Or being slapped. As the case may be.

Moved to Jordan.

Room 2, Flat C. 9 / F, Foremost Bldg. 19. 21 Jordan Road.

Search for her as "Gi gi" rather than gigi on 141 and you'll find her.

Phone no and all.

[QUOTE=John Smart; 1531390]She's alive and kicking, or slapping. Or being slapped. As the case may be.

Moved to Jordan.

Room 2, Flat C. 9 / F, Foremost Bldg. 19. 21 Jordan Road.

Search for her as "Gi gi" rather than gigi on 141 and you'll find her.

Phone no and all.[/QUOTE]Mate I owe you one. Many thanks.

I will finally be able to report next week, I have read as much as I can, and will be able to put some practice into the theory, I am a great fan of long DATY session, I could not filter any good recommendation in my reading about this, and as it is often the case, busy WG rarely indulge, your recommendation will be welcome (or Pm)

[QUOTE=Manicure;1532084]I will finally be able to report next week, I have read as much as I can, and will be able to put some practice into the theory, I am a great fan of long DATY session, I could not filter any good recommendation in my reading about this, and as it is often the case, busy WG rarely indulge, your recommendation will be welcome (or Pm)[/QUOTE]I'm a big fan of DATY too but now I rarely do it on a WG.

141 girls will rarely let you DATY. 37D more likely, I think KP too but I'm not familiar. But if it is important to you go for Indo and Filipina girls. You're spending more time (usually) and money (usually) with them and many of them will provide a more GFE experience.

[QUOTE=Johnny Rocket;1532099]I'm a big fan of DATY too but now I rarely do it on a WG. 141 girls will rarely let you DATY.[/QUOTE]Got in to HK around 10 am from states (beat the storm in ny) and called my 141 girl to stop over Hotel at 5pm. She's older than normal 141 girls but loves DATY and is a big screamer. Nice relaxing 2 hr session and fell asleep at 8 pm.

I arrived in Hong Kong for a short stay the other night (Thursday, I think?) and headed out to Wan Chai as soon as I got checked in to my hotel and cleaned up. Plenty of lovelies out and about, although New Makati was surpisingly almost empty. Amazonia was rocking (and I am pretty sure I saw a blonde Colombian girl working there) , as was Hong Kong Cafe and Escape. I quite like Hong Kong Cafe, it has a good vibe if perhaps not quite the talent that Escape has. Escape was really something else, many of 8s & 9s of all ethnicities. I chatted up a ridiculously hot little Thai girl for a while, then made friends with three Mongolian girls (all cute, one stunning), and saw at least a couple statuesque blonds strolling by who I presume were Russian. The only downsides are the girls are all too eager to hawk drinks (they must get a cut and/or pressure from the management to push for guys to buy them drinks) AND they want ridiculous prices for their company. I had no luck at all for less than 2000. And the 2000 deal fell apart because I insisted on paying after and she deferred. It was just as well since I was pretty drunk and jet lagged. I didn't stick around too late, probably would have had better luck a couple hours after midnight. It's a good venue if you have a fat wallet and want top-shelf talent, but it wasn't to be for me that night.

Even though I've always been a take-out guy, I'm really starting to appreciate HKG for the 141 options and think I'll stick to them on future visits. Off to Macau tomorrow. First time there so I'm looking forward to that scene!

I accept DATY with pleasure!

[QUOTE=Johnny Rocket; 1532099]I'm a big fan of DATY too but now I rarely do it on a WG.

141 girls will rarely let you DATY. 37D more likely, I think KP too but I'm not familiar. But if it is important to you go for Indo and Filipina girls. You're spending more time (usually) and money (usually) with them and many of them will provide a more GFE experience.[/QUOTE]Must confess in all my years of mongering, I have always found that the semi-pros out of the Wanchai bars, and DH's, love DATY. Never met anyone that didn't respond and in many cases it could "got them going" big style when otherwise they might have been a bit passive and hard work.

Probably would be a bit more careful with a WG from the street etc.

Just my opinion.

[QUOTE=Chantik;1532378]I accept DATY with pleasure![/QUOTE]I'll vouch for that!

[QUOTE=Chantik;1532378]I accept DATY with pleasure![/QUOTE]Bagus sekali ;)

[QUOTE=Jsxyz;1532190]I saw a blonde Colombian girl working there & (Escape) The only downsides are the girls are all too eager to hawk drinks (they must get a cut and/or pressure from the management to push for guys to buy them drinks![/QUOTE]1) The blonde is from Dominican Republic and for a DR girl had pretty big opinion of herself. Most of the time DR girls are pretty down to earth IMHO.

2) after many successful times getting girls out of Escape in the past. Last week I had a really hard time with management following the girl out after me. It took me waiting in some uncomfortable and unusual place for 40 minutes before she was able to extract herself and go back to my room. So there is something going on there.

[QUOTE=GuyThatLikesStuf; 1532594]1) The blonde is from Dominican Republic and for a DR girl had pretty big opinion of herself. Most of the time DR girls are pretty down to earth IMHO.

Could be her; I assumed Colombian due to her light skin. She was short, cute, a little thick in the butt and had a tattooed Spanish word vertically down the back of her neck. I couldn't quite make out what it was, but I'm 99% sure it was Spanish.

2) after many successful times getting girls out of Escape in the past. Last week I had a really hard time with management following the girl out after me. It took me waiting in some uncomfortable and unusual place for 40 minutes before she was able to extract herself and go back to my room. So there is something going on there.[/QUOTE]That could be her; I assumed Colombian due to her light skin. She was short, cute, a little thick in the butt and had a tattooed Spanish word vertically down the back of her neck. I couldn't quite make out what it was, but I'm 99% sure it was Spanish.

If you don't mind sharing, what was the rate on the girl you took out from Escape? Wondering if I was just picking the wrong girls who kept insisting on 2500+.

[QUOTE=Jsxyz;1532597]If you don't mind sharing, what was the rate on the girl you took out from Escape? Wondering if I was just picking the wrong girls who kept insisting on 2500+.[/QUOTE]Never more than 1500HKD for 2 pops demanded upfront.

I had a very unsatisfactory service at k-pressure do to a combination of jet lag and a girl who wasn't into it at all.

Net day did a search and found one called Jin Di Yuan on Portland street.

Went at 10am and paid 390 for 45minutes.

Serviced by Candy. Spoke poor to fair English.

This girl was happier then a drunken sailor. Didn't stop laughing and giggling.

She was waiting on the bed for me before I was even finished undressing.

Laid face down for the massage and after 2 minutes she was trying to push an ice cube up my arse with her tongue.

Rolled me over to start the BBBJ. As soon as I was hard she was ready for entry.

Had to slow her down and insist on a condom.

Super tiny, super fun and I'll be back.

Nobody Special

[QUOTE=Chantik;1532378]I accept DATY with pleasure![/QUOTE]1. I know. .

2. This is evidence for my point.

A few CL observations.

There have been some posts recently warning guys about trannies. Sometimes this is cattiness but the ads they warned about were also ones that aroused my suspicion. Look carefully as indeed there are many providers with Y chromosomes fraudulently posting in w4m.

There is a new "Chinese-American college student independent" advertising. She is asking 4000 / hr. I wished her good luck.

Miss Pumpkin has been adequately discussed as has our lovely Chantik.

There's a girl called Cherry offering "private massage" by a "stunning HK girl." She drops hints in some of her posts that more is available, but in fact it's no more than a HJ, and for 1500 / hr, and she doesn't get nude. She posts her age as 26 or 28 but she's in her 30s. She's by no means "stunning" unless she means it's stunning that someone would pay her fee when saunas offer better massage plus FS for the same price. However one poster reported to me privately that he was able to fuck her so YMMV. I suggest passing on her.

Was in one of my go-to hunting grounds the Fuji Building a few days ago. Just as I reached I one door that had been opened for another punter, I thought I saw the girl inside was white. The door stated the price was 800. I rang and sure enough a white girl answered. First time I've seen this in Fuji. I said "hello" and she said "goodbye" and shut the door. WTF? I've seen Asian girls that wouldn't take white customers but never a white girl. But maybe it wasnt my being white maybe it was something else. She is definitely from former soviet union or eastern Europe because she sounded exactly like Borat when she said goodbye. If anyone tries her out please report. Can't remember the floor, Somewhere in the low teens.

[QUOTE=Johnny Rocket;1532744]Was in one of my go-to hunting grounds the Fuji Building a few days ago. Just as I reached I one door that had been opened for another punter, I thought I saw the girl inside was white. The door stated the price was 800. I rang and sure enough a white girl answered. First time I've seen this in Fuji. I said "hello" and she said "goodbye" and shut the door. WTF? I've seen Asian girls that wouldn't take white customers but never a white girl. But maybe it wasnt my being white maybe it was something else. She is definitely from former soviet union or eastern Europe because she sounded exactly like Borat when she said goodbye. If anyone tries her out please report. Can't remember the floor, Somewhere in the low teens.[/QUOTE]To Johnny.

That is funny maybe she only fuck Chinese I have done escort in Hong Kong before for 1000 hkd a few yr ago, There are many Russian SW in Macau yr ago for 500 mop not any more they are working as escort and sauna now 1500 mop and up.

Fast Eddie 48

[QUOTE=Nobody Special; 1532621]I had a very unsatisfactory service at k-pressure do to a combination of jet lag and a girl who wasn't into it at all.

Net day did a search and found one called Jin Di Yuan on Portland street.

Went at 10am and paid 390 for 45minutes.

Serviced by Candy. Spoke poor to fair English.

This girl was happier then a drunken sailor. Didn't stop laughing and giggling.

She was waiting on the bed for me before I was even finished undressing.

Laid face down for the massage and after 2 minutes she was trying to push an ice cube up my arse with her tongue.

Rolled me over to start the BBBJ. As soon as I was hard she was ready for entry.

Had to slow her down and insist on a condom.

Super tiny, super fun and I'll be back.

Nobody Special[/QUOTE]I think I went there once years ago, maybe I'll have to go try Candy or see who else is there. There is a listing for this place on happy massage dot com. The address is 1 / F, Lifa Building, A, No. 362, Portland Street but be aware it is incorrectly listed as being in Kowloon City when it is actually very close to Mong Kok station.

[QUOTE=GuyThatLikesStuf;1532616]Never more than 1500HKD for 2 pops demanded upfront.[/QUOTE]So in other words, normal prices. Wonder what was up the night I was there. Maybe I just looked like a noob tourist!

Oh well.

[QUOTE=Jsxyz; 1533040]So in other words, normal prices. Wonder what was up the night I was there. Maybe I just looked like a noob tourist!

Oh well.[/QUOTE]If they can get more, they will, and if they smell ignorance, desperation or fear, they may be less willing to negotiate. Sometimes the time of night matters. In the end you must remember that here there is basically an infinite supply of pussy.

[QUOTE=Johnny Rocket;1532859]There is a listing for this place on happy massage dot com.[/QUOTE]Good site. Also has anal listing for whoever was asking about it earlier.

[QUOTE=Johnny Rocket;1532744]I said "hello" and she said "goodbye" and shut the door. WTF? I've seen Asian girls that wouldn't take white customers but never a white girl. But maybe it wasnt my being white maybe it was something else. She is definitely from former soviet union or eastern Europe because she sounded exactly like Borat when she said goodbye.[/QUOTE]You were not her brother! LOL! Probably did not want to bump into you at a corporate fucktion and demand a lower rate.

[QUOTE=Traveler1234;1532149]Got in to HK around 10 am from states (beat the storm in ny) and called my 141 girl to stop over Hotel at 5pm. She's older than normal 141 girls but loves DATY and is a big screamer. Nice relaxing 2 hr session and fell asleep at 8 pm.[/QUOTE]Best long haul remedy! LOL!

[QUOTE=Manicure;1532084]I am a great fan of long DATY session, I could not filter any good recommendation in my reading about this, and as it is often the case, busy WG rarely indulge, your recommendation will be welcome (or Pm)[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Jackthelad2;1532391]Must confess in all my years of mongering, I have always found that the semi-pros out of the Wanchai bars, and DH's, love DATY. Never met anyone that didn't respond and in many cases it could "got them going" big style when otherwise they might have been a bit passive and hard work.

Probably would be a bit more careful with a WG from the street etc.[/QUOTE]IMHO, most PI, Thai, Sing, Chinese, Viet, and Camb really enjoy it, at least in their home countries.

There is always a difference between theory and practice. So you prepare with plan a (dating site) , plan be (escort) , plan see (wan chai). The first two did not work, dating site I am too old now and the one who wants to talk to me only want to marry me (too many questions) , and the escort well, they are away. So at the end of the day I decided to go with plan S for spontaneous. So decided to go to 105-107 Queens Road (which was the closet to where I stay) and write down the ones who speak English. I knew almost all of them requires phone appointment but decided to go S anyway. So I decided to go to the highest point first which is gucci. So climb the four stairs hit the bell and click, the door open right away and welcomes me. I really like what I see and enter. This is interesting and I hope you believe me and that I am not chilling. A nice welcome and once undress in the form of a quick tit suck and of course yes. Then a nice shower, she did an excellent job at cleaning ha ha then dry up. I was so horny then I ordered the two hour package 820. The more we talk and move it become evident we are clicking. So the first interaction was nice, dfk, a lot of slow and long rubbing, follow by bbj then a quick long cowboy stroke that end up her having ho ha, very wet but no conclusion from me (too thick condom did not feel enough). So she falls back beside me and unsure why? She shares with me her technique to get her juice on and in return I share how to get me to release. So what was follow was one of the best BBBJCIM I had (probably the best) , with no drop lost and about 2 minutes in the mouth before spitting it waving at me with two OK and congrat sign. With both tired, we sleep together 1 hour with her grabbing me tight against her. I could not and did not want to move it was that nice. I think about 5 phone calls unanswered and one dude let to dry on the door during that time. So she ask, do you want to get a second release or eat. I laugh and say both. She did try to get me going a second time but it was as good as before. I am still not done, what follow was a quick tour of the best restaurant location and a dinner date in a modest but good restaurant. Now, it is very unlikely it will be as good my next experience, nor that someone can repeat this with her (she is warm personality but go with the flows some time) but experience like this leave a wonderful smile

[QUOTE=Manicure;1533251]There is always a difference between theory and practice. So you prepare with plan a (dating site) , plan be (escort) , plan see (wan chai). The first two did not work, dating site I am too old now and the one who wants to talk to me only want to marry me (too many questions) , and the escort well, they are away. So at the end of the day I decided to go with plan S for spontaneous. So decided to go to 105-107 Queens Road (which was the closet to where I stay) and write down the ones who speak English. I knew almost all of them requires phone appointment but decided to go S anyway. So I decided to go to the highest point first which is gucci. So climb the four stairs hit the bell and click, the door open right away and welcomes me. I really like what I see and enter. This is interesting and I hope you believe me and that I am not chilling. A nice welcome and once undress in the form of a quick tit suck and of course yes. Then a nice shower, she did an excellent job at cleaning ha ha then dry up. I was so horny then I ordered the two hour package 820. The more we talk and move it become evident we are clicking. So the first interaction was nice, dfk, a lot of slow and long rubbing, follow by bbj then a quick long cowboy stroke that end up her having ho ha, very wet but no conclusion from me (too thick condom did not feel enough). So she falls back beside me and unsure why? She shares with me her technique to get her juice on and in return I share how to get me to release. So what was follow was one of the best BBBJCIM I had (probably the best) , with no drop lost and about 2 minutes in the mouth before spitting it waving at me with two OK and congrat sign. With both tired, we sleep together 1 hour with her grabbing me tight against her. I could not and did not want to move it was that nice. I think about 5 phone calls unanswered and one dude let to dry on the door during that time. So she ask, do you want to get a second release or eat. I laugh and say both. She did try to get me going a second time but it was as good as before. I am still not done, what follow was a quick tour of the best restaurant location and a dinner date in a modest but good restaurant. Now, it is very unlikely it will be as good my next experience, nor that someone can repeat this with her (she is warm personality but go with the flows some time) but experience like this leave a wonderful smile[/QUOTE]Nice!

What is the "special service" listed on her 141 page?

Nice!

I do not know enought to compare If she likes you I guess it is GFE, she has been reviewed more than others but YMMV

What is the "special service" listed on her 141 page

Hi guys,

Been a while since I went mongering in Wan Chai, usually I enjoy the German FKKs a couple of times a year. It is very hard to top that experience! Anyway got a Hall Pass from the wife tonight.

Just wondering what time does the action in Netpunes Makati and Escape. Start nowadays?

I usually prefer to go earlier rather than later.

Cheers

[QUOTE=Brown Rail; 1476790]Hi Singp Guy. I have been coming to HK since the mid 1980s, enjoying the night life on trips since the mid1990s, and local for a while now. I sometimes lurk on this Site, looking for entertainment during a boring work day and occasionally picking up a new idea. When I have something good to add, I do speak up.

I think the girls in Wanchai are as beautiful, plentiful and cheap as they ever were. Maybe cheaper. In fact, in the 1990s the street level bars were more popular, and just as expensive as they are now. So working girls girls were more expensive then: HKD3-4, 000 for overnight. Or maybe I just knew less then. Now you can pull a girl out of Makati for HKD1, 000. Or even for free..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=GuyThatLikesStuf; 1532594]1) The blonde is from Dominican Republic and for a DR girl had pretty big opinion of herself. Most of the time DR girls are pretty down to earth IMHO.

2) after many successful times getting girls out of Escape in the past. Last week I had a really hard time with management following the girl out after me. It took me waiting in some uncomfortable and unusual place for 40 minutes before she was able to extract herself and go back to my room. So there is something going on there.[/QUOTE]Its been posted many times that you can't directly take the lady out of Escape as per their licence restrictions. Follow the ladies advice and she will meet you around the corner. They know how the bar works. So you know the ladies must scan in their details to enter Escape.

Looking forward to my next trip back. Have 10 days at end of March, only trouble is it will part cross with the HK Sevens which will be a pain as everywhere will be so busy.

However, I generally go for freebies with the DH crowd, hopefully I have as much luck as in the past, so while I may not be affected by the Pro's upping the price, it will be so damn busy in Wanchai / LKF.

[QUOTE=LongLunches; 1533593]Looking forward to my next trip back. Have 10 days at end of March, only trouble is it will part cross with the HK Sevens which will be a pain as everywhere will be so busy.

However, I generally go for freebies with the DH crowd, hopefully I have as much luck as in the past, so while I may not be affected by the Pro's upping the price, it will be so damn busy in Wanchai / LKF.[/QUOTE]Very hard to get freebies from DH if you meet them in Wanchai. It's no longer so innocent.

[QUOTE=Chantik;1533717]Very hard to get freebies from DH if you meet them in Wanchai. It's no longer so innocent.[/QUOTE]Thanks,

Luckily I have a few friends from previous trips, and am making a few more, or will do, on DIA and the like before I arrive. It works pretty well for a true GFE.

I'm more concerned the bars and restaurants will be jam packed. I have a couple of brothers joining me too. So look forward to showing them the sights!

I've been using blendr and tagged to meet some nice ladies. Mostly it works out very well, after chatting and establishing contact. Followed by a subsequent meet up. In general, the Indos are much more genuine and less whingy than the Flippers.

I've recently been chatting with one woman (from Singapore) on tagged who's operating out of the Cosmopolitan hotel in Wanchai. Her tagline says ' hi there I'm sharina working as a escort girl here in Hong kong if you would like to have fun with me just message me and talk about this. '

So I have been messaging and chatting to her.

In order to see her she tells me ' All you need to do is to pay my boss using western union because my boss is located at the Philippines '

I smell something funny her, but bear with me.

I say 'so do you want a bank transfer'? (I have no intention of giving someone I don't know any such details, I might add).

The damage is 'HK$500 for 5 hours with the room unit – which I don't need to book' I am told.

All I need to do is to pay her boss to process things. Using Western Union.

Ok, so I come back asking ' and what is your 'tip' on top of the HK$500 to your boss? '

To which she responds ' I have salary on my boss dear. Its up to you if you will give me a tip after having sex. ' LOL

Anyone come across this before? HK$500 for 5 hours in Wanchai! LOL, somehow I have my doubts.

Chantik = Is this straight up or a scam?

[QUOTE=John Smart; 1533912]I've been using blendr and tagged to meet some nice ladies. Mostly it works out very well, after chatting and establishing contact. Followed by a subsequent meet up. In general, the Indos are much more genuine and less whingy than the Flippers.

I've recently been chatting with one woman (from Singapore) on tagged who's operating out of the Cosmopolitan hotel in Wanchai. Her tagline says ' hi there I'm sharina working as a escort girl here in Hong kong if you would like to have fun with me just message me and talk about this. '

So I have been messaging and chatting to her.

In order to see her she tells me ' All you need to do is to pay my boss using western union because my boss is located at the Philippines '

I smell something funny her, but bear with me.

I say 'so do you want a bank transfer'? (I have no intention of giving someone I don't know any such details, I might add).

The damage is 'HK$500 for 5 hours with the room unit – which I don't need to book' I am told.

All I need to do is to pay her boss to process things. Using Western Union.

Ok, so I come back asking ' and what is your 'tip' on top of the HK$500 to your boss? '

To which she responds ' I have salary on my boss dear. Its up to you if you will give me a tip after having sex. ' LOL

Anyone come across this before? HK$500 for 5 hours in Wanchai! LOL, somehow I have my doubts.

Chantik = Is this straight up or a scam?[/QUOTE]Doubts? Sending money to someone you don't know for a service to be delivered later by someone else you don't know is a classic scam. Second, the price should be a dead giveaway that it is a scam.

Went early to Wan Chai yesterday as I did not have much time.

Tuesday early evening during a non exhibition week is dead. I walked a round just before 9:00pm and all was empty except for 3 very desperate looking Flippers in Neptune III.

As I did not want to wait too long I decided to head for a 141 service. Now I believe in quality and sometimes have the faint hope that price has something to do with it, but man was I disappointed.

I tried the TST 141 where you book an appointment and they advertise Japanese Ladies, they are advertised for 2K. I know kind of a crazy price, but I do not mind spending it for a very outstanding time with a very special lady and a very special service with everything included.

So I called for Honeysa #24399. A lady answered and asked to meet in Mira Hotel Kimberly road. She made me wait for almost 45 minutes. A taste of things to come. When she finally arrived she took me next door to Champagne Court.

Went up the stairs to the 1st floor. A short term hotel setup disguised as a spa. Went into a room and there was the supposed Japanese model Honeysa (

[url]http://go141.com/en/24399-Tsim[/url]

%20Sha%20Tsui%20%20Honey%20Girls%20%20Honeysa. Html)

Looked like an owl, totally saggy breasts and probably 30 if not 35yo. Total scam! I told the lady this is not the advertised girl and there is no way I will spend this amount of money for this girl. So she said never mind, I have many model waiting. 5 minutes later she rolls in with another 35 yo Japanese with a surprising good looking face for her age, but sagging big tummy. She said I should pay her now, she is agent and need the money upfront, so of course I left.

So don't waste your time with this total BS!

If you search 141 there are many listings where you have to call for an "appointment" and generally they are a lot more expensive, all have different numbers listed, but after trying out one my wild guess is they are all scams.

Sounds like a scam. I repeat when using CL or similar. Unless the lady charges 1000 HK for 100 you will be upcharged for extras. That 700 quickly becomes 1500 or more.

I have always wondered about ladies who allow multiple sms / chats. My regular guys its one or two sms' to set up a meeting. They like minimal contact before we have fun.

And guys next time you go to Escape watch the ladies scan in to enter. Interesting!

Hi,

I will be in HK & Macau for 1 week from Sunday. I have been mongering before in €, DR & India, so I am not really new to the mongering game, but the information in this thread is rather overwhelming, so I am a bit confused, maybe someone is kind enough to guide me through some basic questions:

1) 141 or craigslist: I read about many scams here, is it actually worth it, what to consider?

2) Where to buy a HK SIM without hassle?

3) From some reports it seems that there are some venues that you go to and you clearly see that these are working girls. I guess that is the Wanchai area? What is the typical game here then? Will I bring them back to my hotel (what about the general "guest friendy" rule in HK hotels)?

4) Where to go on a Sunday afternoon to have some fun?

Any reply is appreciated.

PS: I found this which would be near my hotel (in Sheung wan). She looks like a fake?

[url]http://go141.com/en/24014-Sheung[/url]%20Wan%20%20Massage%20%20QQ. Html

[QUOTE=John Smart; 1533912]I've been using blendr and tagged to meet some nice ladies. Mostly it works out very well, after chatting and establishing contact. Followed by a subsequent meet up. In general, the Indos are much more genuine and less whingy than the Flippers.

I've recently been chatting with one woman (from Singapore) on tagged who's operating out of the Cosmopolitan hotel in Wanchai. Her tagline says ' hi there I'm sharina working as a escort girl here in Hong kong if you would like to have fun with me just message me and talk about this. '

So I have been messaging and chatting to her.

In order to see her she tells me ' All you need to do is to pay my boss using western union because my boss is located at the Philippines '

I smell something funny her, but bear with me.

I say 'so do you want a bank transfer'? (I have no intention of giving someone I don't know any such details, I might add).

The damage is 'HK$500 for 5 hours with the room unit – which I don't need to book' I am told.

All I need to do is to pay her boss to process things. Using Western Union.

Ok, so I come back asking ' and what is your 'tip' on top of the HK$500 to your boss? '

To which she responds ' I have salary on my boss dear. Its up to you if you will give me a tip after having sex. ' LOL

Anyone come across this before? HK$500 for 5 hours in Wanchai! LOL, somehow I have my doubts.

Chantik = Is this straight up or a scam?[/QUOTE]Typical western union scam. Don't do this.

[QUOTE=Renegade23; 1534130]Hi,

I will be in HK & Macau for 1 week from Sunday. I have been mongering before in €, DR & India, so I am not really new to the mongering game, but the information in this thread is rather overwhelming, so I am a bit confused, maybe someone is kind enough to guide me through some basic questions:

1) 141 or craigslist: I read about many scams here, is it actually worth it, what to consider?

2) Where to buy a HK SIM without hassle?

3) From some reports it seems that there are some venues that you go to and you clearly see that these are working girls. I guess that is the Wanchai area? What is the typical game here then? Will I bring them back to my hotel (what about the general "guest friendy" rule in HK hotels)?

4) Where to go on a Sunday afternoon to have some fun?

Any reply is appreciated.

PS: I found this which would be near my hotel (in Sheung wan). She looks like a fake?

[url]http://go141.com/en/24014-Sheung[/url]

%20Wan%20%20Massage%20%20QQ. Html[/QUOTE]1. 141 you can see the girl when you knock on the door except if she is a call-in or hotel appt, so judge for yourself on the spot. 141 typically not a scam but photos are often shopped and some info like age may be fake and bra size is on the Asian girl scale meaning DD / E/F is more like what white people would think of as B or C. Craigslist mostly sucks but there are some good ones there you just have to use your bullshit detector and get a feel for it. Certain specific girls have been discussed here even within the past few pages. RTFF.

2. Anywhere. At the airport, or pretty much on every block on any street you'd likely be on.

3. If you want to go to a place and know right away they are working girls, it's 141, 37D, KP, or YS. Wanchai bars (and even street) not everyone is a WG but you should easily be able to tell WG from not.

4. Sexual fun or otherwise? What kind of fun are you looking for? A freebie? Try the helpers in Victoria Park (Indo) or Central (Flipper).

PS: What makes you think QQ is fake? This seems like a typical 141 provider to me.

[QUOTE=Renegade23; 1534130]Hi,

I will be in HK & Macau for 1 week from Sunday. I have been mongering before in €, DR & India, so I am not really new to the mongering game, but the information in this thread is rather overwhelming, so I am a bit confused, maybe someone is kind enough to guide me through some basic questions:

1) 141 or craigslist: I read about many scams here, is it actually worth it, what to consider?

2) Where to buy a HK SIM without hassle?

3) From some reports it seems that there are some venues that you go to and you clearly see that these are working girls. I guess that is the Wanchai area? What is the typical game here then? Will I bring them back to my hotel (what about the general "guest friendy" rule in HK hotels)?

4) Where to go on a Sunday afternoon to have some fun?

Any reply is appreciated.

PS: I found this which would be near my hotel (in Sheung wan). She looks like a fake?

[url]http://go141.com/en/24014-Sheung[/url]

%20Wan%20%20Massage%20%20QQ. Html[/QUOTE]1. 141 is not fake. There are girls in apartments you can go and see. There is no pressure. Usually there are many girls in the same apartment block. Negotiate the cost.

Craigs list depends. Some are ok but there are lots of scams. In HK you need not be worried about personal safety.

2. You can buy HK sim card in any 7-11 store. Many comes with pre-loaded with some minutes.

3. Wanchai area clubs are the best selection. You can also meet domestic servants anywhere if they smile at you. Generally these are Indo and Philippinas.

All hotels are girlfriendly in HK.

4. Most of the domestic servants hang around in parks on Sunday afternoon. You might get lucky.

Just go through HK thread for more info.

[QUOTE=Renegade23; 1534130]Hi,

I will be in HK & Macau for 1 week from Sunday. I have been mongering before in €, DR & India, so I am not really new to the mongering game, but the information in this thread is rather overwhelming, so I am a bit confused, maybe someone is kind enough to guide me through some basic questions:

1) 141 or craigslist: I read about many scams here, is it actually worth it, what to consider?

2) Where to buy a HK SIM without hassle?

3) From some reports it seems that there are some venues that you go to and you clearly see that these are working girls. I guess that is the Wanchai area? What is the typical game here then? Will I bring them back to my hotel (what about the general "guest friendy" rule in HK hotels)?

4) Where to go on a Sunday afternoon to have some fun?

Any reply is appreciated.

PS: I found this which would be near my hotel (in Sheung wan). She looks like a fake?

[url]http://go141.com/en/24014-Sheung[/url]

%20Wan%20%20Massage%20%20QQ. Html[/QUOTE]Just to add some supporting comments:

1) I've been a regular fan of the regular 141 (and 161) girls for the last 7-8 years. The scams recently described here seem to be mainly the higher-priced hotel girls and phone appointment girls, not the medium-priced walk-in girls.

As Sammon points out, many buildings have 6 to 12 girls working in the same building, often side-by-side on the same floor, so it's easy to walk away if the girl who opens the door isn't to your liking. Johnny Rocket is correct in pointing out that the photos may have photo-shopped a bit, but I've never been with a 141 girl who didn't look at least somewhat like her profile photos, and in a couple of cases the photos were dead-on accurate.

I've had good luck with many of the lower-priced girls (HK $400. $500. 600). While they're probably over 25 and not all that beautiful, they usually provide good service for money.

I also urge you to consider going to 37 Dundas (first choice) or K-Pressure, both of which have been discussed at length here. 37 Dundas even has its own thread here.

Another option for ST sex are the yellow-sign places located near the MTR exits in Mongkok and nearby. I haven't seen these places discussed at all here lately.

2) SIM cards. Can easily buy everywhere, airport, in town, etc. Having a local SIM card / phone number is always a smart thing to do, by the way.

3) It's usually obvious in the Wanchai bars as to who the working girls are. Depending on who you meet, how much you "click" with the girl, and how long you plan to be with her, you could either take her back to your hotel for ST or LT, or she might lead you to a nearby short-term hotel (trust me, they'll know where to go). If you hook up with a DH on a Sunday, she'll be happy to spend the entire afternoon with you for multiple hits, but will probably need to leave by early evening to return to where she works / stays.

4) The Sunday DH scene in downtown Hong Kong is fascinating to view, even if you're not in the market to pick up a DH for sex and play. One can be excused for thinking that one is in Manila!

Re: your PS. I just looked at the page for "QQ" (girl #24014) and she looks legit. My only caution is that she's probably over 30, maybe over 35 years old. But as long as her face appeals to you, my prediction is that you'll have a good session with her.

[QUOTE=Renegade23; 1534130]Hi,

I will be in HK & Macau for 1 week from Sunday. I have been mongering before in €, DR & India, so I am not really new to the mongering game, but the information in this thread is rather overwhelming, so I am a bit confused, maybe someone is kind enough to guide me through some basic questions: [SNIP][/QUOTE]A few further comments regarding mobile phone services.

There are many mobile company phone shopfronts in HK. China mobile, Three, Smart, CSL and PCCW. Look for these signs prominently displayed. There are also 'virtual' operators like CITIC and China Unicom but I have no idea if they have tourist plans and many of them do not have convenient shopfronts.

My suggestion is go to a PCCW shop. Unfortunately, not so many in Central, but ask a friendly policeman. They usually speak English. PCCW have a special tourist card which gives you voice, data and Wi-Fi.

If you do not buy the special tourist card, you do not need to buy an expensive data plan. Buy a PCCW short term wi-fi package called Netvigator. PCCW have wi-fi hotspots around the streets so you can use Google streetmaps etc out and around in HK. Most cafes etc have wifi, but you generally have to ask for passwords so Netvigator is useful when you are out and about. Netvigator has quite a few deadspots. If you need a connection, go to an MTR station. There is always a good connection at these places.

If you plan on visiting mainland China, ask for a "1 card 2 number" SIM card. This gives you phone access at HK prices in China as well. Convenient if you are just popping over the border for a pop in Shenzhen. But may not be available on the PCCW special tourist card.

Have a great time!

OK, thank you guys. I will keep you updated once I'm over there.

R. I. P.

I am told that their rent increased to 450K and they decided to call it quits. Seems the people at Escape will be the new tenants.

After all the long walk require from work, I needed a real massage, so I was recommended by gucci, this place on Swatow Street close to queen Road (which was never reviewed in here I think) , which she told me was real massage. So book a 90 minute massage (400). Was greeted by a nice thai girl age about 21-24 I will say. The way she moves around me naked while I am getting undressed gives clues already that there is maybe more. So the massage was really great, a true 90 minutes thai massage, but at the end more and more junior attention. So she ask sir should I? Well I never had an HJ in my life I must admit despite my age (always prefer the real thing) , but she was so skill so I agreed for the additional 400 (I know it is a bit too high) , but she did had to work hard, even allowing me to dfk and got a 1 minute BBBJ too. After cleaning about four other nice thin and young ladies were smiling to me, and say they will gladly oblige next time. So for a real massage and a good HJ+miniBBBJ+dfk I recommend this place on swatow street (there is only one I massage place)

[QUOTE=Ramn HK; 1534698]R. I. P.

I am told that their rent increased to 450K and they decided to call it quits. Seems the people at Escape will be the new tenants.[/QUOTE]Sad to hear. Had a great HJ there once by a thai girl during rugby 7s. Everyone drunk. I suspect I wasnt the only one in that bar that night.

Rents are going up all over Wanchai. Both residential and commercial. Many places not just sex related have moved on. The theory is that owners want property prices to increase. They've only had over a 100 years to move the sex trade out of Wanchai.

[QUOTE=Manicure;1534742]After all the long walk require from work, I needed a real massage, so I was recommended by gucci, this place on Swatow Street close to queen Road (which was never reviewed in here I think) , which she told me was real massage. So book a 90 minute massage (400). Was greeted by a nice thai girl age about 21-24 I will say. The way she moves around me naked while I am getting undressed gives clues already that there is maybe more. So the massage was really great, a true 90 minutes thai massage, but at the end more and more junior attention. So she ask sir should I? Well I never had an HJ in my life I must admit despite my age (always prefer the real thing) , but she was so skill so I agreed for the additional 400 (I know it is a bit too high) , but she did had to work hard, even allowing me to dfk and got a 1 minute BBBJ too. After cleaning about four other nice thin and young ladies were smiling to me, and say they will gladly oblige next time. So for a real massage and a good HJ+miniBBBJ+dfk I recommend this place on swatow street (there is only one I massage place)[/QUOTE]Yeah that is not a common area at all.

Did you try to get the BBBJTC? Did it seem like even more (FS) might have been available? Was it purely body massage or did they offer foot massage places?

Everyone, I am looking for a good foot massage place, meaning actual foot massage. If it has HEs as well that is great but I am looking for a quality foot massage above all. Any tips would be appreciated.

They do offer, foot massage, too. Which I might try too. The walls are fairly thin with curtain, and about 8 stalls all together, so for FS I am not sure, the girl did not want me to touch her lower part.

[QUOTE=Johnny Rocket; 1534941]Yeah that is not a common area at all.

Did you try to get the BBBJTC? Did it seem like even more (FS) might have been available? Was it purely body massage or did they offer foot massage places?

Everyone, I am looking for a good foot massage place, meaning actual foot massage. If it has HEs as well that is great but I am looking for a quality foot massage above all. Any tips would be appreciated.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Lucky 88; 1533542]Hi guys,

Just wondering what time does the action in Netpunes Makati and Escape. Start nowadays?

Cheers[/QUOTE]Hi Lucky 88,

It depends on the day and how you define action. And there are many more bars then the three you mentioned. So do explore Sticky Fingers, HK Cafe, Insiders. 109, Players, Queen Vic, Amazonia, Dusk til Dawn, etc.

Most bars are packed Sunday from about 4pm till about 7. I would call that super peak (just look at the queue / prices in Ming Court!). Same on public holidays. The big crowd at this time is helpers on their off day. It is the most fun. But while you will meet lots of great girls, not all will go with you right away, or will go for money. But plenty will and it is a lot more challenging and fun than a video game, oh and that prize.

Peak is probably most nights from about 10pm till 1 or 2am. Then it varies by bar but the majority are working girls, or girls who will go either way depending on how much they like you.

Off peak is probably happy hours (7-9pm) mostly in the pubs, and from 4pm on Saturday in Makati.

Other times it is hit or miss. If you sit in Queen Vic on any afternoon a few girls will come and go, but you cannot predict it.

Hope that helps.

Talking of massage places, anyone manage any extras at Nirvana Hong Kong in Johnston Road Wan Chai.

Close to where I stay, wondering if it is totally legit.

Can take one for the team when I'm there, but just interested in any prior knowledge.

Thanks

Update Joe Bananas. Today the 22nd is the last trading day for Joe Bananas. The company that runs Escape has taken over the lease at JB. It will refurbish the bar and plan to have it open before Rugby 7's. The new bar Rio 50 metres from Escape. Basement Bar is also owned by the Escape crew. Looks like Escape is aiming to take over that part of Luard Road.

Hi gents,

I am new joiner here and any advice is very much appreciated.

I will start working in hk in 1 week and I decided to chat a bit on DIA website in order to meet some girls when I arrive.

Do you have any experience using DIA and what's your opinion please?

Thanks,

Cheers

Hi,

So I'm in HK now. I went to Bonham Strand 123 / Sheung Wan. If not to ISG I'd never found such a place, so easy to overlook. Anyway once in I rang a few bells, but no respone. So then one opened the door at A / 2F. Wasn't too bad actually. 30, quite good body, tits a bit saggy, face rather nice. She couldn't speak any English, my Mandarin isn't the best, but hands can talk, so there was no issue, LOL. Went straight to action after putting down my clothes. BBBJ in the shower, continues on the bed, good sucking. Some standard sex position, but not really got something out of it, so requested BBJ and she started doing a good job again. But wasn't too quick for her, so a few minutes later she finished me off by hand then. 20 minutes total, okay. Then a 15 minute massage and it was over. 400 and good bye. I was in no way looking for any kind of GFE here, but it was a bit too emotionless and she positioned herself always in a way that she was untouchable, I guess you know what I mean. So although the BBBJ was rather good, I want to try something else next, it was okay for quick nut, no questions asked. I guess it will be Wan Chai tomorrow evening.

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[QUOTE=NiceFrench; 1535404]Hi gents,

I will start working in hk in 1 week and I decided to chat a bit on DIA website in order to meet some girls when I arrive.

Do you have any experience using DIA and what's your opinion please?

Cheers[/QUOTE]DIA and the cupid sites do work, but, you have to put some effort into it, be a nice guy (hopefully you are) and expect nothing. If you do, you may just meet a nice lady or two, I know I did.

Did anyone else find the ISG server down today? Glad to see it back up.

[QUOTE=NiceFrench; 1535404]Hi gents,

I am new joiner here and any advice is very much appreciated.

I will start working in hk in 1 week and I decided to chat a bit on DIA website in order to meet some girls when I arrive.

Do you have any experience using DIA and what's your opinion please?

Thanks,

Cheers[/QUOTE]I prefer HongKongCupid. Recommend you post multiple good photos and a well-written profile that also outlines your expectations. Also suggest you try ChineseLoveLinks for the ladies just over the border in and near Shenzhen. Girls in China (compared to local HK girls) , tend to be less concerned about your age if you are an older guy.

I have used HKC intermittently over the past 4 years and have had good success meeting local girls, Indo and PI Domestic Helpers and some nice HK married ladies. Just be aware that the professionally taken photos tend to be heavily photoshopped.

In my experience, very few of the ladies are WGs, unlike some other sites.

Good Luck

Hi all,

First I like to thank you all for the valuable information on this forum.

I am a 37 year old Dutch guy and I travel each year 2 or 3 times to China for business.

Mainly Shanghai, Fuzhou and Shenzhen and it can get very lonely sometimes.

As prostitution is illegal in China I don't want the risk to get in troubles.

Therefore I am a frequent visitor of this forum to indulge myself in all the good stories written here.

Just fantazing about going to a wg helps me to survive another lonely night in the hotel.

But this time I really wanted more then a fantasy so I booked a hotel for 2 nights in HK.

This morning I arrived and did some research.

I am not a bar going kind type so trying to get a freebie at Wan Chai is out of the question.

Looking for a date at 141 is still to scary for a first timer.

This is just too funny as I am 2 meters tall and build as a quarterback but I can't help it.

I am just to shy.

So after the idea was going to K-pressure or 37 Dundas.

Untill I read the report of Manicure below about that massage place at Swatow street.

A good massage is a good first step I tought so I went.

I arrived there around 5 pm and it is really easy to find.

Went up the stairs and was greeted by an older lady and a couch full of pretty girls.

This looked very promising but I got shy again.

I did not know what to do and all the girls giggled. Mamasan noticed and took charge. I had to do the 90 minutes oily massage for 460 dollar. Okay, that sounds good.

A pretty Thai girl around 25 years old with a good body directed me to a room barely large enough to fit the table.

In good English see told me to undress and lay down on the table and so I did.

She asked if I wanted a soft, medium or hard massage and I went for hard. The next 80 minutes or so she tortured me in a very good way. But I need to report she was fully dressed.

But at the end she kneeled down and whispered in my ear if I wanted more. At this point I was so relaxed and at ease that I replied with a big yes. She asked 1.000 dollar for a blowjob and I offered her 300. We settled for 400.

At this point she took off her clothes and stood there in her underwear. She told me too touch her anywhere if I wanted.

Her body was in great shape. No fat, round ass and the best tits I saw in long time. She let me unhook her bra and I took a nipple in my mouth and could feel it groing in my mouth. She started sucking on my ears and I grasped her ass.

Then she went down and bit hard on my nipple. OMG, a wave of pain and pleasure went trough my body and I almost screamed.

She quickly put a hand on my mouth and said I had to be quit. I said I would try.

She took place between my legs and started licking my scrotum. I was in heaven and went beyond when she started sucking me. I shivered over all my body and did my best not to make any sound.

I can report that she asked me to fuck her but I declined as 2 other clients joined the rooms next to me and you can hear everything. So she went down again to complete the BBBJ. I do not know if I came in her mouth as I was to busy enjoying this new to me experience.

After cleaning the mess I made she gave me a tickle massage just to tease me. Then she handed over a towle and gave me a hard strike on my ass to direct me to the shower. After I finished the shower alone I paid and left the building.

Thank you all again for sharing your adventures.

It helped me alot to go on my own adventure.

This experience need to be repeated.

So maybe tomorrow I have enough courage to enter 37 Dundas.

If I do I will report.

After seeing some posts on here, I went to try Jin Di Yuan (362 Portland Street in Mong Kok). Here's an FR:

Location: this end of Portland Street is very quiet and discreet, and still just a few minutes walk from Mong Kok MTR exit A2. Easy to find the place. Big sign, duck down the alley way, immediately turn left, and then follow the stairs up (orange signs with arrows) 'til you get to the security door. No problems at all.

Welcome: Friendly papasan. Not much English.

Cost: HKD390 all in. No tip requested.

I tried asking if Candy (recommended by another poster) was available. She wasn't, and Papasan's English failed him. Candy is. Candy is. Candy. *gesture*. So there you have it. Candy is. I asked for one like Candy and got a girl whose name I didn't catch. On the older side. Early thirties, a bit flabby, C-cup plastic tits, not bad looking overall, but nothing special. She was friendly, spoke perfect Cantonese but no English at all.

Service wasn't so good. Usual shower, on to the bed, straight into a CBJ (BBBJ? Nope!). Fingering. Not allowed. I find CBJ to be extremely dull (she might as well be sucking my thumb) so I indicated it was time for the main event and she flopped automatically into mish. Turns out she only does mish. She was not bad at this. No complaints, took a pounding, and reached down to frig herself off at the same time. I liked that.

Afterwards she attempted a massage but she had no skill in that department and it just hurt, so I steered her back into the shower.

Cleanliness: rooms are average. Not filthy. Plastic mattress, only a tiny towel between you and it. Shower thoroughly after. Towels, even clean ones, smell of tobacco smoke.

WIR: Probably not, unless I can find out exactly when the admired Candy is working.

Continuing on from my previous day of failures. By the way I am writing these separately as I am a one finger typist and if I try to do long reports I get logged out and lose everything. I have been a member for quite a while but after losing most of my writings before I could post them I sort of gave up and really just studied all the good work here and got an idea of how it all works.

Now my three great girls were all at 115 electric Road, they say 2nd floor but only one flight of stairs, filthy with rotten garbage bags all over the place, not very inviting but I pressed on. First knock, smoking hot thai wearing only body stocking like onepiece swimsuit, could not get in fast enough $380hkd one pop 30 mins. Pulled out wallet no, pay later she says. This happened 3 times and as I only had $100s keep $20 as tip. I think it is the plan by the girls, worked with me 3 times. Nice clean shower and she had a stunning brown body be / see firm naturals hairy pussy but I love them any way they are LOL DFK avl but I prefer soft lip action and she did not dissapoint. Reached for condom for BJ, I say no condom. Condom for sex she says absolutely says I top BBBJ, very passionate sex, first Aussie cock ever seen she says, maybe but I unloaded a massive wad. Shower, more hot kissing and I'm gone although a bit unsteady. Downstairs and its pissing down rain. Time for lunch and then back upstairs for number 2.

Ok after my earlier fuck at the 141s at 115 Electric Road I was full of great expectations as I ate my lunch, then back out into the rain for more. As I climbed the stairs I decided to go straight to my morning girl for more but fuck. Her door notice said busy, some lucky prick getting the goodies! So into next corridor and knock on first available door, wow Chinese MILF about 28 (guessing) white, very white skin and the biggest pair of knockers I have ever seen on an Asian girl. Straight in $380hkd (same on whole floor maybe). This girl had a great fun attitude, little bit chubby but not fat, great tits and legs but baby belly was not too good she danced around naked and I told her she should be a model this seemed to switch on her motor and she came over to where I was sitting and pushed her hairy triangle into my face. I obliged by giving her a massive tongueing and fingering and she came with an almighty scream with juices running down my fingers and hand. This got me so worked up that I put her on her knees and came all over her fantastic natural DDs. So no suck or fuck but a hot hot time with a hot hot girl gave$400, kept $20 tip, no offer of change, guess the plan works but I was happy for her to have it. As I was leaving she gave a hug and kiss although kissing not in service, she let the towel go and said "you want touch and kiss these one more time". Yes Maam! Hong Kong. I love this town.

Only had about 1 hour before going on trip to the peak so returned to 141s at 115 Electric Road (when you are on a good thing stick to it) Had the idea of seeing one of my two previous girls but sad both doors say busy, probably still asleep. Then another door opens and petite thai girl turns her sign around to please knock, no need are you ready I said. Sure come in. She was very brown and very small but happy friendly attitude $380 again and took a shower. When I come out she is naked but shock horror, her back shoulders and front covered in tattoos. I hate them on women but too late now. Good covered suck and come fast in cowgirl. All typical thai service played with my limp cock with her very hairy pussy right in my face to use up the time. Ok but not up to first two gave her $400, she tried to give $20 change, let her keep it she was sweet enough, just not hot or sexy.

Later that day on the standard tourist trip to Stanley Market, it was too hot and humid for me so I left you know who to shop till you drop, I will be up on the road where the buses and taxis are meet you there when you are ready. Now this is not about a sex adventure but the fantastic way that sex can happen here. While sitting in the shade watching the world (and girls) go by I noticed these two, very obviously philippino girls in jean shorts and small white t-shirts walking toward me (this same thing happened in KL and I could not do it damm) , I gave them an aussie wink when they made eye contact, they stopped and the following conversation took place:-

Girl. Where you from, you live HK.

Me. Australia no I am on holidays.

Girl. You married or girlfriend.

Me. No single man but always looking (lies, damm lies)

Girl. Where you stay in hk.

Me. Hotel in Northpoint (more lies checked out catching plane tonight)

Girl. You like us we best friends from phills.

Me. Yes you are both very beautiful (both a little too chubby but both very doable)

Girl. We can come meet you for drink at Northpoint, we work at quarry bay.

Me. Maybe you stay all night with me in my room after we have many drinks and dinner.

Girl. No we only stay until 8 have to be back at house by 9 (obviously domestics)

Me. Ok give me your number and I call you when I get back. I whispered 'do you want any money"

Girl. Up to you ok but we like to buy clothes if you help.

There you go not even looking for it and it comes right along. Great time in HK would be be a blast if not restricted by family. One day maybe one day.

[url]http://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/article/1428709/hong-kong-police-fear-prostitute-influx-after-dongguan-vice-crackdown[/url]

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6, 000 police raided almost 2, 000 entertainment venues in Dongguan last week. Photo: AP.

Hong Kong's sex trade. And the criminal syndicates that control it. Are set to become public enemy No1 as fears grow that the city will fill the vice vacuum left after a huge crackdown on prostitution in Dongguan.

Some 50 billion yuan (HK$63. 5 billion) is estimated to be at stake in lost revenue after 6, 000 police raided nearly 2, 000 entertainment venues last week in Dongguan and detained more than 900 people. With 10 senior police officers suspended from duty or penalised in the process. Xinhua said.

Yesterday, Commissioner of Police Andy Tsang Wai-hung said as a result of the raids, police in Hong Kong would be increasing operations against vice establishments."To prevent [the sex trade] from proliferating [in Hong Kong], we have stepped up our operations against the sex trade recently," he said after a radio interview.

Tsang added that the police would continue to work with the authorities in Guangdong as they continue their crackdown in Dongguan, a city of 8. 2 million people between Shenzhen and Guangzhou.

A senior Hong Kong police officer said Tsang's directive was warranted given the established links between Hong Kong and its neighbours across the border.

"There is definitely potential for the sex trade to suddenly grow quickly here but it won't just be confined to a rise in prostitution," the officer said."It will bring with it all the usual vice that goes with it: narcotics, money laundering, triad protection."

The officer added: "Many working girls from Shenzhen will come across the border via Lo Wu MTR station and do business until around midnight before taking the train back."

Economists have calculated that as much as 10 per cent of Dongguan's economic activity will be affected by the crackdown.

The raids in Dongguan were prompted by provincial authorities after China Central Television aired an expose labelling it as a "sex capital" with a thriving industry that served many clients from Hong Kong.

I promised a report for my second day in HK. I did not go to K-pressure but went back to the massage place at Swatow street. This time for a 2 hour oily massage. After two ours I gave the girl 500 dollars extra for FS.

[QUOTE=Intransit; 1538906][url]http://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/article/1428709/hong-kong-police-fear-prostitute-influx-after-dongguan-vice-crackdown[/url]

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6,000 police raided almost 2,000 entertainment venues in Dongguan last week. Photo: AP.

Hong Kong's sex trade. And the criminal syndicates that control it. Are set to become public enemy No1 as fears grow that the city will fill the vice vacuum left after a huge crackdown on prostitution in Dongguan.

Some 50 billion yuan (HK$63. 5 billion) is estimated to be at stake in lost revenue after 6, 000 police raided nearly 2, 000 entertainment venues last week in Dongguan and detained more than 900 people. With 10 senior police officers suspended from duty or penalised in the process. Xinhua said.

Yesterday, Commissioner of Police Andy Tsang Wai-hung said as a result of the raids, police in Hong Kong would be increasing operations against vice establishments."To prevent [the sex trade] from proliferating [in Hong Kong], we have stepped up our operations against the sex trade recently," he said after a radio interview...[/QUOTE]I see this inflow rather as a positive sign. Men will always monger. If not in CP then in HK.

[QUOTE=LaosHu69;1539235]I see this inflow rather as a positive sign. Men will always monger. If not in CP then in HK.[/QUOTE]It can be a complicated process for Mainland Chinese to get a visa into Hong Kong.

It's not as easy as you think!

[QUOTE=Chantik; 1539508]It can be a complicated process for Mainland Chinese to get a visa into Hong Kong.

It's not as easy as you think![/QUOTE]I believe it would already have an impact if all HK men would look in HK who formerly went to CP on a regular basis.

Visiting HK later in the year and hoping to do a lot of mongering over 4 days.

Macau will be one day / night trip so thats sorted but where do I stay in HK.

The Wan chai reviews have me thinking it might be good to stay close by especially given the late hour things seem to kick off.

Having said that the WG scene is a little cheaper over at Kowloon. Mmmm.

Any guidance would be well received.

Looking at pricing up to $200 au per night.

Hello my sr. Friends,

Visiting Hong Kong next week for few days. Most likely will be put up at hotel Metropark, Wan Chai. Just wanted to check if there are any good clubs / bars to pick up Filipino / indo girls around Metropark. What will be the charges for ST and LT. One last one-is the hotel Metropark GF and if so, do they charge anything extra for extra person.

Thanks very much and regards.

It has been a while since I last visited now but on every visit I always stayed at The Wharney Guan Dong in Wanchai. The rooms are a bit small but clean and perfectly acceptable for our purposes! The location is spot on with all the bars and clubs within stumbling distance. Will visit again soon I hope, as it is a great city for mongering and each time I see a HK post always read it and reminisce! Book through BA do com for a good rate. Was when I last did.

Enjoy,

YF

[QUOTE=Davidbkr; 1540050]Visiting HK later in the year and hoping to do a lot of mongering over 4 days.

Macau will be one day / night trip so thats sorted but where do I stay in HK.

The Wan chai reviews have me thinking it might be good to stay close by especially given the late hour things seem to kick off.

Having said that the WG scene is a little cheaper over at Kowloon. Mmmm.

Any guidance would be well received.

Looking at pricing up to $200 au per night.[/QUOTE]

You will need luck to get $200 for a night. That may get you 1 or 2hrs.

Lots of bars in Wanchai. Metropark has no key access to lift, and doesn't charge for extra guests.

[QUOTE=Chantik; 1540300]You will need luck to get $200 for a night. That may get you 1 or 2hrs.

Lots of bars in Wanchai. Metropark has no key access to lift, and doesn't charge for extra guests.[/QUOTE]200$ AU translates into almost 1400 HK$. Most times of the year that gets you a decent place, even in Wanchai.

[QUOTE=Solitude70; 1528188]My first report.

Took a walk-up to Pinky in the southern building. 257-273 King's Road, Fortress Hill.

She is available on the 141 pages.

Pictures should be real.

Pro: Fluent English.

Contra: CBJ, no kissing, bad massage.

She talks in english and she talks alot. Kind of crazy girl, but in a positive way.

Nice body, nice face, nice be-cups imo.

I guess she would be fun to take here out for a drink.

Damage for full service: 520.

More to follow.[/QUOTE]I was nearby and paid this girl a visit. She is indeed crazy but in that fun way. Very nice personality. She is Thai. When I mentioned the ladyboys in Thailand she said she was a ladyboy but it was a joke, no way she's a ladyboy.

Unlike our friend Mr. Solitude I was able to get BBBJ and CIM for an extra 100.

Worth a visit. She told me she is leaving HK within the next 2 weeks but may return after 3 months or so. She'll be working in Singapore for a while.

Every week, thousands of HK guys used to go to Shenzhen, Dongguan and nearby places for fun. In ChangPing, Cantonese speakers were everywhere.

After the 'strike hard campaign' which has affected all of Guangdong and adjacent provinces, what will these guys do? I think that Macau would be too expensive for them.

So, I guess that many of them will visit local providers more frequently. This is going to have to have some flow on effect in HK. Will prices rise? Will service levels fall? Will HK change its laws to conform more closely with Beijing's approach? Just musing!

[QUOTE=Tiger 888;1540387]200$ AU translates into almost 1400 HK$. Most times of the year that gets you a decent place, even in Wanchai.[/QUOTE]Think the guy was talking about $200 all night as a punting price. $200 for a a decent hotel is doable.

[QUOTE=Chantik;1540612]Think the guy was talking about $200 all night as a punting price. $200 for a a decent hotel is doable.[/QUOTE]Yes, I just read my original post. I should have been more clear.

I am looking for suitable accommodation on about AU$200 / night.

Doesn't have to be that much though.

What places are handy to the scene in Wan chai?

Do any of the hotels have nightclubs where WG's frequent? Might save me a walk. LOL.

BTW, thanks for the replies.

[QUOTE=DavidBkr; 1540649]Yes, I just read my original post. I should have been more clear.

I am looking for suitable accommodation on about AU$200 / night.[/QUOTE]It depends on whether there is a big convention in town that day. Then prices go way high unless you book well in advance. Most of the time AU$200 is way more than enough. Of course in HK you can spend AU$400, 500, 1.000 no problem. The old Mandarin is still my favorite. But for friends I usually look for places around AU$100, and there are lots. Look on Agoda or Asiarooms.

It is great to stay right there, around Lockhart Road, but if you expand your search to Causeway Bay you will open up a lot of 3-4 star choices around AU$100, and at night it is 5 minutes by cab.

Check out JJ Hotel on Wanchai Road. It is a small boutique with very nice rooms, sometimes as low as HKD500. About a 10 minute walk from the bars. 2 minute cab ride.

[QUOTE=Brown Rail;1540820]Check out JJ Hotel on Wanchai Road. It is a small boutique with very nice rooms, sometimes as low as HKD500. About a 10 minute walk from the bars. 2 minute cab ride.[/QUOTE]Where do you get this price from? On the website, the cheapest is HKD1200. On booking. Com it is HKD1650!

I'm looking for an inexpensive hotel in the Wanchai area for around $50.

[QUOTE=Hioctane; 1541015]Where do you get this price from? On the website, the cheapest is HKD1200. On booking. Com it is HKD1650!

I'm looking for an inexpensive hotel in the Wanchai area for around $50.[/QUOTE]Good luck getting a hotel room for less than HK 400, especially around Wanchai.

You can get deals on JJ for $900 to $1000 if you book early.

[QUOTE=Chantik; 1541266]Good luck getting a hotel room for less than HK 400, especially around Wanchai.

You can get deals on JJ for $900 to $1000 if you book early.[/QUOTE]Has anybody stayed at a hostel? Some have private rooms but shared baths for under $50. Are they girl friendly?

[QUOTE=Hioctane;1541444]Has anybody stayed at a hostel? Some have private rooms but shared baths for under $50. Are they girl friendly?[/QUOTE][QUOTE=DavidBkr; 1540649]I am looking for suitable accommodation on about AU$200 / night.

BTW, thanks for the replies.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=DexRide;1540218]Hello my sr. Friends,[/QUOTE]I might suggest RTFF and using Google to search this forum. Both parties below and others have made good suggestions / recommendations (which apply elsewhere too) in the past year and a half. HK is near the top of the most expensive cities list but there are budget accommodations available. If you are budget conscious, there are much cheaper options around the world and region. If you are not, it might be worthwhile to enlist a guide for the first night if you do not have time to RTFF.
[QUOTE=Chantik;1541266]Good luck getting a hotel room for less than HK 400, especially around Wanchai.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Brown Rail;1540820]It depends on whether there is a big convention in town that day.[/QUOTE]

Butterfly hotel. I have not stayed here yet, but I read about it in a different forum. Weekday rates are under 1000 HKD. A couple locations in Central and Causewaybay, and one in TST. Looks decent.

[url]http://www.butterflyhk.com/eng/index.php.[/url]

[QUOTE=Makeupaname; 1541617]Butterfly hotel. I have not stayed here yet, but I read about it in a different forum. Weekday rates are under 1000 HKD. A couple locations in Central and Causewaybay, and one in TST. Looks decent.

[url]http://www.butterflyhk.com/eng/index.php.[/url][/QUOTE]Am just staying at Butterfly in Central on Wellington Road. Rooms are small but cute and clean. 2 min walk to Lan Kwai Fong and easy access to MTR.

At 1000 a night a good deal in Hong Kong. Can recommend!

Am sure it is girl friendly.

[QUOTE=Hioctane; 1541015]Where do you get this price from? On the website, the cheapest is HKD1200. On booking. Com it is HKD1650!

I'm looking for an inexpensive hotel in the Wanchai area for around $50.[/QUOTE]I stayed at JJ Hotel for a bit when I was changing apartments a few years back. My memory was that the price was very volatile, but it was on some nights around HKD500. I just looked at a random date in May on Booking.com and it comes up as HK$720.

[QUOTE=Makeupaname; 1541617]Butterfly hotel. I have not stayed here yet, but I read about it in a different forum. Weekday rates are under 1000 HKD. A couple locations in Central and Causewaybay, and one in TST. Looks decent.

[url]http://www.butterflyhk.com/eng/index.php.[/url][/QUOTE]Try the search function.

[QUOTE=Daddy San;1119985]Visited HKG last week of February and stayed at the Butterfly on Prat, Prat Avenue, TST, on recommendation from the forum.[/QUOTE]

Tiger888 will probably know better but by some accounts, total visitors to HK skyrocketed to over 40 million in 2013, of which 30++ were tourists / shoppers from China. It's projected to 60+ million this year so the hotel industry is making tons of money, occupancy rates always high, and of course prices also 'jacked' up. Same hotels I've stayed at for 20 yrs now double or more the price. An extended family member was at Four Seasons last year for $450 a night; this trip he paid $1000 / night. Crazy!

Your best bet might be to contact local TA as they monitor which hotels have best deals. Only downside is once you book, it's on prepaid non-refundable basis.

[QUOTE=Traveler1234; 1541724]Tiger888 will probably know better but by some accounts, total visitors to HK skyrocketed to over 40 million in 2013, of which 30++ were tourists / shoppers from China. It's projected to 60+ million this year so the hotel industry is making tons of money, occupancy rates always high, and of course prices also 'jacked' up. Same hotels I've stayed at for 20 yrs now double or more the price. An extended family member was at Four Seasons last year for $450 a night; this trip he paid $1000 / night. Crazy!

Your best bet might be to contact local TA as they monitor which hotels have best deals. Only downside is once you book, it's on prepaid non-refundable basis.[/QUOTE]PRC travelers are pushing the budget end, if at all, since most are day trippers.

Pretty sure top end in London is still more expensive. Though I think the NYC property is more expensive than the HK one.

Corporate contract rates are still the cheapest. Then the web and travel agent rates. The web is your friend and book in advance. Rack rates always more.

Any of the Butterfly hotels are highly recommended and affordable.

I strongly suggest that if you are interested in mongering. That most ladies won't go to hostel type accommodation for security reasons.

I've meet many a guy who prefer to stay in hostel type accommodation but book short time hotels to meet a lady.

[QUOTE=Traveler1234; 1541724]Tiger888 will probably know better but by some accounts, total visitors to HK skyrocketed to over 40 million in 2013, of which 30++ were tourists / shoppers from China. It's projected to 60+ million this year so the hotel industry is making tons of money, occupancy rates always high, and of course prices also 'jacked' up. Same hotels I've stayed at for 20 yrs now double or more the price. An extended family member was at Four Seasons last year for $450 a night; this trip he paid $1000 / night. Crazy!

Your best bet might be to contact local TA as they monitor which hotels have best deals. Only downside is once you book, it's on prepaid non-refundable basis.[/QUOTE]I am in no way an expert on hotels as I haven't used one in HK for over 15 years. I just can say what I hear from friends visiting. Normally it is still possible to get a decent room for 800-1000 HK$ if booked early (or last minute when a lot is vacant) , but the same room can go up to 4000 HK$ during exhibitions if occupancy is high when booked late. Booking, ctrip, agoda and the like can help.

A property I recently stumbled across surfing the net I never heard of before is certainly interesting at higher price level: The Upper House.

[QUOTE=Tiger 888;1541762]A property I recently stumbled across surfing the net I never heard of before is certainly interesting at higher price level: The Upper House.[/QUOTE]Sorry, meant stats on visitors and not hotel info.

Coincidentally, a large extended family group with my wife as leader stayed at Upper House when they had their soft opening several years ago: $175 per night! It is now considered one of the top hotels worldwide. Located mid level, above Admiralty Center area along with Shangrila, etc.

[QUOTE=Traveler1234; 1541831]Sorry, meant stats on visitors and not hotel info.

Coincidentally, a large extended family group with my wife as leader stayed at Upper House when they had their soft opening several years ago: $175 per night! It is now considered one of the top hotels worldwide. Located mid level, above Admiralty Center area along with Shangrila, etc.[/QUOTE]For the GENTS who have a big budget and like luxurious surroundings The Upper House is highly recommended. And the security is not as strict and overbearing as some hotels.

Had my first really good 37D experience for a long time today with Ching Ching. She's a bit old but completely worth it. Was slow to warm up but once she felt comfortable she was a good one.

[QUOTE=Chantik;1541848]For the GENTS who have a big budget and like luxurious surroundings The Upper House is highly recommended. And the security is not as strict and overbearing as some hotels.[/QUOTE]Another really good option, a little more than Cosmo etc tho, is Hotel Indigo, I have stayed there a few times now. On Queens Road East, by Wanchai market. New boutique hotel, really nice rooms, walk to the entertainment areas, highly recommended.

Seen many reports talking about meeting DH indos / Filipinas either on the street or at the parks on Sundays.

If you "get lucky" and meet one, are these generally freebies, or are they expecting something?

[QUOTE=Dirk67; 1542437]Seen many reports talking about meeting DH indos / Filipinas either on the street or at the parks on Sundays.

If you "get lucky" and meet one, are these generally freebies, or are they expecting something?[/QUOTE]IMHO, nothing is "free" when it comes to girls.

DH + O* = "Freebie" but later -$ -$

DH + $ = "Fun time"

DH + $$ = "GFE"

[QUOTE=Dirk67; 1542437]Seen many reports talking about meeting DH indos / Filipinas either on the street or at the parks on Sundays.

If you "get lucky" and meet one, are these generally freebies, or are they expecting something?[/QUOTE]It depends on your definition of free.

I have met many whom I have not paid for sex, indeed I haven't paid any of them for sex. But, I have bought them lunch or dinner and sometimes if I see them multiple times I have bought them a small gift.

So no, not paid for sex, nor $500 "taxi" money, but I have paid for things, but then, as a Gent, that's what I expect to do.

Many however, especially those loitering around Wanchai, will want "taxi" money of $500 I believe. YMMV.

[QUOTE=Boarer; 1542540]IMHO, nothing is "free" when it comes to girls.

DH + O* = "Freebie" but later.$.$

DH + $ = "Fun time"

DH + $$ = "GFE"[/QUOTE][QUOTE=LongLunches; 1542653]It depends on your definition of free.

I have met many whom I have not paid for sex, indeed I haven't paid any of them for sex. But, I have bought them lunch or dinner and sometimes if I see them multiple times I have bought them a small gift.

So no, not paid for sex, nor $500 "taxi" money, but I have paid for things, but then, as a Gent, that's what I expect to do.

Many however, especially those loitering around Wanchai, will want "taxi" money of $500 I believe. YMMV.[/QUOTE]LOL. Of course, there is no free lunch. But it sounds like with the DHs it will be more of a GFE and even if temporary, perhaps a more real thing than a WG in a club. Would of course expect to pay for some meals and such.

Is it usually a long courtship type process? I will be in HK only a short time, maybe 3-4 days. Besides hkcupid, any other sites to cultivate before I arrive? Mainland seems ChinaLoveLinks is recommended, not sure of any others.

[QUOTE=LongLunches; 1542653]It depends on your definition of free.

I have met many whom I have not paid for sex, indeed I haven't paid any of them for sex. But, I have bought them lunch or dinner and sometimes if I see them multiple times I have bought them a small gift.

So no, not paid for sex, nor $500 "taxi" money, but I have paid for things, but then, as a Gent, that's what I expect to do.

Many however, especially those loitering around Wanchai, will want "taxi" money of $500 I believe. YMMV.[/QUOTE]And many of them are heavily indebted. Some have borrowed tens of thousands HK$ from Loan sharks with over 30% interest p. A.

So it may be just a question of time for them to declare they do have a problem, which indeed they have.

[QUOTE=Dirk67; 1542437]Seen many reports talking about meeting DH indos / Filipinas either on the street or at the parks on Sundays.

If you "get lucky" and meet one, are these generally freebies, or are they expecting something?[/QUOTE]If you meet around Wanchai, they are often expecting some payment, although not necessarily a WG.

If you meet at one of the many areas where DHs congregate around HK, then if you "win their heart", they do not necessarily expect payment on date number one. However, it is incredible how may pinay have a sick caribou at home that needs medicine. Haha. Seriously, I believe that borrowing money from others is just a cultural thing that you need to learn to accept. And they always have financial crises.

Sundays are great, but what about the rest of the week? I developed the technique of speaking to DH's on Sundays, and asking them if they had gf who had days off during the week? I used to say that I rarely had free time on Sunday. Worked great and easily collected many cell numbers! Consequently I then found groups of DH who all had the same day off during the week. Even better!

My favourite places were Worldwide House in Central or the New Town Plaza shopping centre in ShaTin. There are similar locations for Indos, including Causeway Bay and Mongkok / Prince Edward. I forget their names. One place in Causway Bay is between Sogo Department store and Victoria Park. There is a money changer at ground level, and you go up escalators to area where there are many Indo shops.

Good luck!

Went to my favorite bang bang place in Kowloon this afternoon but they are still under renovation (been like that for over a year now). Went to the new place and was shown 2 girls of which I chose the slimmer, more petite one.

She was really small (I mean about 150cm) with soft but fake boobs. But she gave me a long BBBJ and I had to hold back from blowing in her mouth. This place had nice large ceiling mirrors so I could see all the action and it really turned me on. She popped on the rubber and got on top. Instead of a few grinds to get the juices flowing and then getting off she really enjoyed it.

In fact I could tell since she had two rather intense orgasms while on top because I felt her tighten up really hard when she did.

The ceiling mirrors only made it all the more enjoyable. She then got on reverse cowboy and I saw that she had indeed creamed herself, there was lots of white milk on her hairy privates.

Well I couldn't let her have all the fun so I flipped her over and proceeded to pound her hard and deep before we both came (quietly).

Great experience and well worth the money (350 HK dollars) , will get a coffee at Langham Place and recover. Going back for a second round after, maybe I will do a 3P.

So after the great first pop I rested and went to another place on the same street that has "services", first mistake.

Place seemed regular- walk up with rooms along a dark corridor. Asked for a young girl and was presented with 3, none of which I particularly liked so I chose the least offensive, second mistake.

Girl was chatty but seemed rushed and mechanical, wouldn't give BBBJ and I accepted, third mistake.

You can tell when a girl is trying to rush you through things. She seemed to be taking a long time giving me a BJ and that is a sure signal they are trying to make you pop before the sex.

The actual sex was plain and uninspired (like Vanilla Ice) and I had to concentrate hard to actually pop.

Paid them 400 and since they said it was 380 I was expecting change. They said do I have smaller bills so I gave them 90 (one 50 and two 20s). They took it and said "thank you", I should have raised a stink but there were 4 of them and it was only 10HK, still left a bad taste in my mouth, fourth mistake.

So second time was vastly inferior to the first time for even more money, could have saved me some money by spanking my monkey in the mens toilets at Langham PLace.

[QUOTE=Ragnarok42; 1542826]Went to my favorite bang bang place in Kowloon this afternoon but they are still under renovation (been like that for over a year now). Went to the new place and was shown 2 girls of which I chose the slimmer, more petite one.

She was really small (I mean about 150cm) with soft but fake boobs. But she gave me a long BBBJ and I had to hold back from blowing in her mouth. This place had nice large ceiling mirrors so I could see all the action and it really turned me on. She popped on the rubber and got on top. Instead of a few grinds to get the juices flowing and then getting off she really enjoyed it.

In fact I could tell since she had two rather intense orgasms while on top because I felt her tighten up really hard when she did.

The ceiling mirrors only made it all the more enjoyable. She then got on reverse cowboy and I saw that she had indeed creamed herself, there was lots of white milk on her hairy privates.

Well I couldn't let her have all the fun so I flipped her over and proceeded to pound her hard and deep before we both came (quietly).

Great experience and well worth the money (350 HK dollars) , will get a coffee at Langham Place and recover. Going back for a second round after, maybe I will do a 3P.[/QUOTE]One brother was asking for the address, while I don't know the exact address the place is on Reclaimation Street and Dundas near the Yaumatei stop. If you are walking from the Langham place it will be on the right hand side of the street. The sign says "Venice".

[QUOTE=Ragnarok42;1542826]Went to my favorite bang bang place in Kowloon this afternoon (Snip.) Great experience and well worth the money (350 HK dollars).[/QUOTE]Last week I saw this Shanghainese girl at a 141 at the Phoenix Apt. Building in Causeway Bay. I like this building better than the Fuji building, since at Fuji you're constantly running up and down the stairs, whereas here they're concentrated on a couple of floors. Anyway, FS + BBBJ set me back HKD 800. The girls there seem to think their pussies are somehow worth 2x for the same services. Hong Kong friend of mine once compared Mongkok to the South Bronx, which would explain the price differential, but I don't really see it.

Anybody know of any reasonably priced areas on HK island, or do you usually have to make the trek to Mongkok?

Next wensday I'm arriving in Hong Kong.

Can sombody please give me the adress of D37 and K-pressure?

Cheers!

[QUOTE=One Eyed Man; 1542892]Last week I saw this Shanghainese girl at a 141 at the Phoenix Apt. Building in Causeway Bay. I like this building better than the Fuji building, since at Fuji you're constantly running up and down the stairs, whereas here they're concentrated on a couple of floors. Anyway, FS + BBBJ set me back HKD 800. The girls there seem to think their pussies are somehow worth 2x for the same services. Hong Kong friend of mine once compared Mongkok to the South Bronx, which would explain the price differential, but I don't really see it.

Anybody know of any reasonably priced areas on HK island, or do you usually have to make the trek to Mongkok?[/QUOTE]HK is a strange place where a 12 min MTR ride qualifies for a trek.

[QUOTE=Dirk67; 1542795]LOL. Of course, there is no free lunch. But it sounds like with the DHs it will be more of a GFE and even if temporary, perhaps a more real thing than a WG in a club. Would of course expect to pay for some meals and such.

Is it usually a long courtship type process? I will be in HK only a short time, maybe 3-4 days. Besides hkcupid, any other sites to cultivate before I arrive? Mainland seems ChinaLoveLinks is recommended, not sure of any others.[/QUOTE]I suggest that if you want DH's who provide GFE avoid Wanchai. Yes the donation may be $500 (though many will ask for more) but it may be short and sweet.

[QUOTE=Ikksman; 1542824]If you meet around Wanchai, they are often expecting some payment, although not necessarily a WG.

If you meet at one of the many areas where DHs congregate around HK, then if you "win their heart", they do not necessarily expect payment on date number one. However, it is incredible how may pinay have a sick caribou at home that needs medicine. Haha. Seriously, I believe that borrowing money from others is just a cultural thing that you need to learn to accept. And they always have financial crises.

Sundays are great, but what about the rest of the week? I developed the technique of speaking to DH's on Sundays, and asking them if they had gf who had days off during the week? I used to say that I rarely had free time on Sunday. Worked great and easily collected many cell numbers! Consequently I then found groups of DH who all had the same day off during the week. Even better!

My favourite places were Worldwide House in Central or the New Town Plaza shopping centre in ShaTin. There are similar locations for Indos, including Causeway Bay and Mongkok / Prince Edward. I forget their names. One place in Causway Bay is between Sogo Department store and Victoria Park. There is a money changer at ground level, and you go up escalators to area where there are many Indo shops.

Good luck![/QUOTE]Haha. Financial crisis. Isn't there always one of some kind? I am usually in one after a trip like this.

So. You approached DH in the park asking for numbers of their friends? Interesting technique indeed.

Will check out Central / ShaTin as suggested.

Thanks!

[QUOTE=AllYouNeedMr;1542934]Can sombody please give me the adress of D37 and K-pressure?[/QUOTE]RTFF or use the search function. HINT:The former has its own forum and its address forms part of its name. The latter is close to the former.

[QUOTE=Dirk67;1543064]Haha. Financial crisis. Isn't there always one of some kind? I am usually in one after a trip like this.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Chantik;1543000]I suggest that if you want DH's who provide GFE avoid Wanchai. Yes the donation may be $500 (though many will ask for more) but it may be short and sweet.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Tiger 888; 1542815]And many of them are heavily indebted. Some have borrowed tens of thousands HK$ from Loan sharks with over 30% interest p. A.

So it may be just a question of time for them to declare they do have a problem, which indeed they have.[/QUOTE]With girls everywhere, IMHO $ always help; whether you are Howard Marshall, Magic J, or Woody Allen. I always give $. As another poster JTL pointed out, they are someone's daughter and they are working to make money. It also helps underscore the type of relationship. If you are successful with girls in your home country, you will have no problem because all girls respond to seduction. Especially if they are from the wrong side of the tracks!

I look at it as a game. I am sitting on a wad of cash and the girls are trying to get to it. They can try to suck it through the front or wrap their legs and hands around and try to grab it from behind! LOL In either case, it is a great way to blow a couple wads.

[QUOTE=One Eyed Man;1542892]Anybody know of any reasonably priced areas on HK island, or do you usually have to make the trek to Mongkok?[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Tiger 888;1542955]HK is a strange place where a 12 min MTR ride qualifies for a trek.[/QUOTE]The prices are included on the 141 website. Just knock on another door. Look at JR's posts. I never noticed some of those places over the years!

[QUOTE=Dirk67;1543064][SNIP] So. You approached DH in the park asking for numbers of their friends? Interesting technique indeed.[/QUOTE]Not quite! I was a little more circumspect than what you describe. And it could happen anywhere. I would sit and chat with girls for a while, and then bemoan the fact that I could not come to HK (from SZ) on Sundays. If they liked me, they would offer phone numbers, or, contact friends later and then send me phone numbers or facebook details. Actually I kept in contact with a few of the 'Sunday girls' for a number of years. And they would ask me how my love life was progressing and tell me how much they wanted to be with me, even though we had only chatted for maybe 1/2 hour.

Anyway, I sometimes had a girl for every day of the week if I was so inclined! It's a hard life! But don't forget, freebies are more expensive than WGs!

Cheers

[QUOTE=Dirk67;1542795]Is it usually a long courtship type process? I will be in HK only a short time, maybe 3-4 days. Besides hkcupid, any other sites to cultivate before I arrive? Mainland seems ChinaLoveLinks is recommended, not sure of any others.[/QUOTE]It does not entail a long courtship process. Exchange a few messages or emails before you arrive and ensure that she is happy to meet you.

As you are also going to China, ChineseLoveLinks is a useful site IMO. This site and HongKongCupid are run by the same company. A few years ago, they offered me a substantial discount for joining both sites. This offer was not on their website; I asked!

Cheers

[QUOTE=Ikksman; 1543175]But don't forget, freebies are more expensive than WGs!

Cheers[/QUOTE]Well said, that is often true!

Hi guys,

I know Sunday is the best time to hunt for DHs, what about saturdays?

How busy is it and do you still follow the same game plan I. E. Starting at Bar109 at approx 1pm.

And do you just get to the point after 10 or so minutes of chit chat? Is that what is expected and how they respond?

Thanking you.

[QUOTE=LongLunches;1543211]Well said, that is often true![/QUOTE]Even they from 141?

Going today to WanChai bars for some search. Will see.

[QUOTE=Jerry99; 1543695]Even they from 141?

Going today to WanChai bars for some search. Will see.[/QUOTE]When's the last time you got a freebie from a 141 girl?

[QUOTE=Johnny Rocket;1543864]When's the last time you got a freebie from a 141 girl?[/QUOTE]I think that he may be asking can a freebie be more expensive than a 141 girl. English is probably not his first language!

And the answer IMHO is YES. Freebies can be very, very expensive!

Looking forward to being back in HK this weekend. Have also been chatting to one of the band members from the All girl band at Hong Kong Cafe, (amongst others) am looking forward to seeing her in action again.

Brown Rail, ready for a beer? LOL

[QUOTE=LongLunches; 1544424]Looking forward to being back in HK this weekend. Have also been chatting to one of the band members from the All girl band at Hong Kong Cafe, (amongst others) am looking forward to seeing her in action again.

Brown Rail, ready for a beer? LOL[/QUOTE]Come on in, the water's fine!

[QUOTE=HardWork; 1543545]Hi guys,

I know Sunday is the best time to hunt for DHs, what about saturdays?

How busy is it and do you still follow the same game plan I. E. Starting at Bar109 at approx 1pm.

And do you just get to the point after 10 or so minutes of chit chat? Is that what is expected and how they respond?

Thanking you.[/QUOTE]Saturdays are noticeably quieter. There will be no one in 109, though you might check out Players first thing in the morning.

By about 4pm there are some girls in Makati and Queen Vic. From then on, it gets better right through till Sunday night when it quiets down again around from 7-9.

There are other options though.

I believe the band members can be tempted to be naughty for a price!

[QUOTE=Chantik;1544543]I believe the band members can be tempted to be naughty for a price![/QUOTE]Thanks for the inside info Chantik, I appreciate it.

[QUOTE=LongLunches;1544657]Thanks for the inside info Chantik, I appreciate it.[/QUOTE]I want dibs on the bass player!

Thank you for your help. Just to clarify will I see DH at Makati on Saturday night or are the girls predominantly WG. I guess I'll start at 4 on Saturday. How about Hong Kong cafe? Is it getting busier?

[QUOTE=Brown Rail;1544767]I want dibs on the bass player![/QUOTE]Every guy I've spoken to has mentioned the Bass Player. I will say that guys have always approached female singers in Wanchai. It's part of being in Wanchai.

[QUOTE=Brown Rail;1544767]I want dibs on the bass player![/QUOTE]Err, you know me too well LOL

[QUOTE=LongLunches;1544990]Err, you know me too well LOL[/QUOTE]Chantik, Lunches,

Do you remember the band The Bangles? Susanna Hoffs? That is who the bass player reminds me of. She has these beautiful, expressive eyes. And that smile makes me crazy!

There is something about that small girl wielding that big bass, pumping out the low notes. Boom, boom, boom. It totally turns me on!

Your's truly.

Hey there,

I'll be in Hong Kong next week and I'm wondering about high-end escorts, and whether anyone here has any experience with them. Yes, I realize the prices are higher than Wan Chai bars. Yes, I realize that I can go to 37 Dundas or K-Pressure or another massage parlor. Escorts tend to get a bad rap around the boards, but I'm interested in high-escorts, as an experience. It seems like most if not all the photos are fakes (tineye. Com is a game changer). Can anyone here vouch for a legit VIP escort (either independent or agency) in Hong Kong? I couldn't find any references to this on the board. Happy to report my findings after the trip, though it would be nice to not go into this completely blind.

Thanks everyone.

[QUOTE=Brown Rail; 1545039]Chantik, Lunches,

Do you remember the band The Bangles? Susanna Hoffs? That is who the bass player reminds me of. She has these beautiful, expressive eyes. And that smile makes me crazy!

There is something about that small girl wielding that big bass, pumping out the low notes. Boom, boom, boom. It totally turns me on!

Your's truly.[/QUOTE]I told one of my GENTS who is a real ladies man about this band. He made a special trip to HK Cafe to find the American Jazz / R and B band. He went on a Monday which is the only night they don't play. The girls play Tue-Sun.

Think you may need a PM facility as guys don't always post information on the main board.

[QUOTE=Brown Rail; 1545039]Chantik, Lunches,

Do you remember the band The Bangles? Susanna Hoffs? That is who the bass player reminds me of. She has these beautiful, expressive eyes. And that smile makes me crazy![/QUOTE]Oh gosh, do I ever!

I had many a wet dream over Susanna Hoff when I was a very young lad.

Thanks for that. I guess. Do you mean that this information is something that people keep private? Anyway. For what it's worth, and as a warning to others who may be looking into higher end escorts while in Hong Kong, beware of Lisa and Helen Myra. I won't link to them here, as I'm not sure if that's a breach of forum rules, but they're both easily found through an Internet search. Both advertise as VIP escorts for discerning gentlemen, but it would appear that pictures from both sites are stolen from various Asian models and actresses. I also wouldn't trust a single escort agency, as I've yet to find a website that doesn't use stolen pictures. I'm thinking I'll need to change my plan of attack when I get to town, which is a shame. Hopefully this info helps warn others.

Cheers all.

Well you didn't specify price range or ethnicity.

You could look in the classified section of ISG.

Hi,

I'll be in Hon Kong for few days and would like to know where will be best and cheep place for a good FK. Can anyone help? And how much. I'm looking for good MILF.

Than you in advance

Guys,

I am in HKK for just a day tomorrow, and wanted some guidance on where could I go for mongering. I will be finishing a meeting by 1 PM in Central and then have 4-5 hours to myself, before I head for airport at 6. Can anyone suggest a good Massage Parlor in or around Central?

You want a veggie massage or FS. Both available at sex 141 com. More options in Wanchai location, easily accessible by MTR.

[QUOTE=Traveler1234;1546234]You want a veggie massage or FS. Both available at sex 141 com. More options in Wanchai location, easily accessible by MTR.[/QUOTE]Reiki Spa at central is a good one. I have personally not been there but know the owner from the previous location. No FS available but not totally veggie either. I go to their Kowloon counterpart as it is cheaper and closer for me.

[url]http://www.reikibeautyspa.hk/[/url]

But remember: Those walkup spa places always are hit or miss. This one with the odds to be likely to be lucky.

I am heading up to Hong Kong this weekend and hope to make contact with Chantik and other for some fun times. I hope the 7's does not get in the way of some good mongering.

Regards,

Bigcharles22

[QUOTE=BigCharles22; 1546407]I am heading up to Hong Kong this weekend and hope to make contact with Chantik and other for some fun times. I hope the 7's does not get in the way of some good mongering.

Regards,

Bigcharles22[/QUOTE]It will be interesting to read a report then. You have not made one yet out of 7 posts.

Hello seniors,

I've been reading in this forum for sometime and enjoyed your experiences.

I am going to Hong Kong for the first time.

Looking for a high profile escort.

Is it safe bringing in escorts to room.

Found some contacts in the internet and do the send as per the photo in the website. Or PM me a good escort agency.

Thanks in advance.

Will update my FR soon.

Mathew

Second visit to this place. Here's a quick FR:

Location: Easy to find, papa / mamasan have very good English, and provide the full address when you make a reservation (which I did via SMS).

Weird: Papasan called me "Steve". Told him my name was not Steve."Ah", he said,"You've changed your appearance!". Huh?

This place is high-price mongering, and you need to know that before going in. It's $2000 for 90 minutes, massage, nuru, and full-service. I consider that way too costly for standard mongering, so this is a rare treat to myself when I *feel* like a Macau sauna experience, but don't have time to go to Macau.

But the quality kinda justifies it. It's very clean, comfortable, welcoming, and most importantly, the girls are stunning. I had a Korean called Momo, early-to-mid twenties, lovely face, perfect teeth, spectacular natural B-cup boobies, rock-hard asscheeks, and just enough English for small talk. Didn't smell of tobacco like the usual Kowloon WGs either.

Service did not disappoint. Momo stripped naked immediately the door was closed, and gave me an assisted shower. She was very playful and giggly. We definitely hit it off. The serious massage was next, and she did okay. Obviously not professionally trained, though. Then the nuru. Hot gel, bodysliding, she rubbed her tits and pussy on me everywhere. Then to CBJ (no BBBJ, unfortunately) and finally she went for insertion in cowgirl.

Personally I thought that was too soon, so after a couple of minutes I moved her onto the massage bed and went in for DATY. She approved of this a lot, and so did I because she had the prettiest, most perfectly hairless little pussy that I've seen in a long time, and I could have happily kept my face in there all day. Anyway, after a while I tore myself away, reinserted, and banged her until completion. No DFK, but lovely passionate light kissing. I don't care if she was faking it, it *felt* real, and that's what I'm paying for.

The only flaw was that. When it was all over. She went straight to the shower and waited for me in there. There was still 20 minutes on the clock, and I could have done with post-coital relaxation, head-massage. The possibilities were endless. But she seemed keen to get me cleaned-up and out.

So. 9/10; *possibly* worth $2000; and definitely only a once-in-a-while treat.

[QUOTE=MathewNikhil80; 1546698]Looking for a high profile escort.

Is it safe bringing in escorts to room.[/QUOTE]RTFF and take a look at below.

[QUOTE=BigCharles22;1546407]I am heading up to Hong Kong this weekend and hope to make contact with Chantik[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Chantik;1545266]I told one of my GENTS who is a real ladies man about this band. He made a special trip to HK Cafe to find the American Jazz / R and B band. He went on a Monday which is the only night they don't play. The girls play Tue-Sun.[/QUOTE]One can only hope they perform better off-stage! LOL

[QUOTE=Idler31;1546764]Weird: Papasan called me "Steve". Told him my name was not Steve."Ah", he said,"You've changed your appearance!". Huh?
[/QUOTE]You weren't thinking with the big head! LOL Should have responded "G'day mate and great to see you again! It's also my birthday. How about a special service and discount?"

[QUOTE=Paperman;1545194]I'll be in Hong Kong next week and I'm wondering about high-end escorts, and whether anyone here has any experience with them.[/QUOTE]RTFF the main section. But I think you are getting hot to what you are seeking; so hot that you will catch fire. Take a look at this post for a hint.
[QUOTE=BigCharles22;1546407]I am heading up to Hong Kong this weekend and hope to make contact with Chantik[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Tiger 888;1546326]But remember: Those walkup spa places always are hit or miss. This one with the odds to be likely to be lucky.[/QUOTE]Would be interested to see if there is any truth in the urban myth about signage. [url]http://hk-magazine.com/city-living/article/hong-kongs-sex-rumours-exposed[/url]

[QUOTE=Boarer; 1546957]Would be interested to see if there is any truth in the urban myth about signage.

[url]http://hk-magazine.com/city-living/article/hong-kongs-sex-rumours-exposed[/url][/QUOTE]Probably not. I'd rather rely on the reviews of 141.

Hello Seniors,

Kindly PM me a reliable escort agency.

Most of them found in the internet seems fake.

Thanks in advance.

[QUOTE=MathewNikhil80; 1547115]Hello Seniors,

Kindly PM me a reliable escort agency.

Most of them found in the internet seems fake.

Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]Six posts so far.

Every single one looking for information.

You need to make a FR. Get together with BigCharles22 (see post below) and see what you can do.

[QUOTE=ShennonS; 1546077]Hi,

I'll be in Hon Kong for few days and would like to know where will be best and cheep place for a good FK. Can anyone help? And how much. I'm looking for good MILF.

Than you in advance[/QUOTE]To Shennons.

There are no Cheap thrill in HK this is a expensive city in Asia everything is expensive, if you want cheap actions go to the Phillppines or Cambodia the third world country.

Fast Eddie 48

Went to Wan Chai yesterday, arrived around 10:30 and did some round, Boracay and HK Cafe pretty much dead, nothing happening in Joe Bananas (they re-opened for the 7's) , Amazonia was busy but I did not go in. Neptunes 3 was OK, but not much talent to my liking.

Went to Escape and spotted the hottest little Thai, wow she was a 10! Approached her and started talking, asked her how much and she quoted me (I am not making this up) 5,000! I honestly thought it was a joke so I continued chatting with her. But she was serious, insisted on 5,000. I asked her if she ever found anyone willing to pay this? Crazy girl, who would pay 5,000?

It got a bit more busy around 11.30, but groups of Rugby tourists seem to have arrived already, so there were far more men than ladies, in the end I left at midnight.

Great report thanks Idler, I will try it and let you know if it was worth it.

[QUOTE=Idler31; 1546764]Second visit to this place. Here's a quick FR:

Location: Easy to find, papa / mamasan have very good English, and provide the full address when you make a reservation (which I did via SMS).

Weird: Papasan called me "Steve". Told him my name was not Steve."Ah", he said,"You've changed your appearance!". Huh?

This place is high-price mongering, and you need to know that before going in. It's $2000 for 90 minutes, massage, nuru, and full-service. I consider that way too costly for standard mongering, so this is a rare treat to myself when I *feel* like a Macau sauna experience, but don't have time to go to Macau.

But the quality kinda justifies it. It's very clean, comfortable, welcoming, and most importantly, the girls are stunning. I had a Korean called Momo, early-to-mid twenties, lovely face, perfect teeth, spectacular natural B-cup boobies, rock-hard asscheeks, and just enough English for small talk. Didn't smell of tobacco like the usual Kowloon WGs either...[/QUOTE]

Mr Sticklike girl lovers (Stickman's) June 17, 2012 column said:

"Even in ultra-expensive Hong Kong you can find a stunningly attractive lady on the likes of xxxxxx which you simply cannot find in the farang nightlife districts of Bangkok, and spend an hour. A full hour. With her for less than $75 all up."

Certainly Mr Stick needs to get out more. Or spend more time reading ISG.

Since at least 2007 in BKK $30 for a ST [which may be up to 2 hrs, but who needs that long to cum] with an attractive FL was still reasonably easy to attain. In fact just a couple months ago in the city of angels one lovely Siam lady told me she went for 700 baht, as times are tough in the capital. A girl has to eat & pay loom. And we know how TGs love to eat. So it's often possible to bargain with them & negotiate for a lower price than the going market norm or rate.

Now in 2014 the same site Mr Slick referred to lists ladies [Thai & foreign] in BKK at a rate of 3500 baht. The HKG prices are at times higher and other times less than that. Pics much photo shopped? What Slick doesn't tell you is if you cross the door threshold in a HKG 141 joint, the rule is they can charge you, even if you get no service or decide you don't want the lady. And the price may also suddenly rise from the online advertised rate, even if you are fortunate enough to find the same girl as in the pics answer your knocking.

Stickboys "ultra expensive" remark is obviously true, which sort of nukes any argument in favor of HKG over BKK based on mongering prices. In HKG you're likely to pay around 100 USD for a tiny claustrophibic 12 square metre hole in the wall of a hotel room. Much like SG. In BKK OTOH it's a similar room re amenities except twice the size and less than half the price.

In Vietnam BTW a comparably good 20 square metre hotel room is 50 percent of that BKK rate. So a huge savings over LOS. Moreover the top rated 2-3 star VN hotels have much better customer review ratings than in these other nations. Service & attitude wise they are like staying at top 5 stars. Bottom line it's easily the best hotel value I've seen anywhere in Asia or the entire universe.

Decided to take god's love to the Fuji 141s last Saturday. I have very mixed feelings about this place. Yes, choice is great, huge concentration of girls in one place. However it feels like you're in the supermarket. Half the ladies are busy at any one time, there's a queue of guys trekking down the floors. I wasn't really feeling it, so got on the train and went to sheung wan. Couple of streets south of the tmr station there's four buildings with a few dozen girls within a couple of minutes of each other. Not as many as Fuji, but no crowds and they seem more keen to get you into the room. Settled on a newcomer from harbin (or so she said). Since all the details are on the 141 website I won't repeat addresses. Standard 141 service. Efficient and dependable. I think in future I'll concentrate my 141 dollars on these smaller locations.

Peace.

Went to the Daily Spa upon Idler's recommendation last week.

Just as he wrote, you call to make appointment papasan (chatty local guy called Howard) and mamasan speak very good English and are friendly and accommodating.

It is a tiny place, hence the appointment only option. You enter into a tiny hall with a counter and from there are just 2 "treatment" rooms.

Anyway I asked for a small and slim girl and got Nini a Malaysian beauty. Very hot! Probably mid to late twenties, but in great shape with great C cups (might have been silicon, but could not really tell at all) The kind of girl that gets your mind focused only on one thing!

Showered together, after this 90 minutes massage. Frankly I am just too impatient for this with such a hot girl around.

After massage very excellent full service for 90 minutes, really very nice and fully satisfied. Took her in all positions repeatedly including DATY, did only CBJ but really did not matter. DFK and great GFE, service level reminded me of the German FKKs.

Expensive, but recommended.

Service 9. She could have been a tad more enthusiastic half way through.

Looks 9

I only monger a few times a year so I much prefer quality even for a higher price.

I have not tried the other massage places in Kowloon I read about, there is Kobe and Noble Sauna in TST East would be interesting to compare the service level.

[QUOTE=Idler31; 1546764]Second visit to this place. Here's a quick FR:

Location: Easy to find, papa / mamasan have very good English, and provide the full address when you make a reservation (which I did via SMS).

Weird: Papasan called me "Steve". Told him my name was not Steve."Ah", he said,"You've changed your appearance!". Huh?

This place is high-price mongering, and you need to know that before going in. It's $2000 for 90 minutes, massage, nuru, and full-service. I consider that way too costly for standard mongering, so this is a rare treat to myself when I *feel* like a Macau sauna experience, but don't have time to go to Macau...[/QUOTE]

Went to check out Kobe Sauna in TST, it is in the 2nd basement of the Regal Kowloon Hotel in TST East.

I found some reports praising the service from 2012.

Just going down to the basement everything looks dated. Arrived at the door, got greeted by 2 ladies in worn uniforms with a price list. 90 minutes including FS went up to 2008 HKD now.

You pay first and go into the changing area where the attendant stands right next to you pretending to help while you undress. Strange.

Off to the shower, after shower you change into shorts and robe and head to the relaxation / waiting room.

There they offer drinks and you wait a few minutes for your massage. They bring you down a corridor with approx. 20 rooms, standard massage place setup so far, all a bit old looking.

In the room I was greeted by a girl not to my liking, looks 6 at most and not slim. So I asked the guy if I can change. No problem 2 minutes later in pops the 2nd girl she was maximum a 7, but not so slim either (I like slim) so I rejected again. Next comes the Manager with an I-pad and photos of the girls. All grand looking, wow, but then he points out the girl that was just there and I realized the heavy Photoshopping that went on.

Anyway I pick a slim girl which arrives 5 minutes later.

Looked OK maybe a 7, but later after undressing I think she must have been late 20s, with slightly sagging tummy.

The room by the way was in near darkness as they hang towels over the lights. When I tried to remove them a little the lady did not approve and we finally settled only on a little more light.

Massage started and after approx. 30 mins she starts massaging my bum and undressing. Great, I thought, on the main course.

She only did CBJ, did not want to do DATY and all was the very "mechanical" standard of a China massage parlor. Wants to sit on you right away and starts moaning before you even enter her, declaring her love and how beautiful you are, has issues with many positions and offered to finish me off with a hand job after 10 minutes already! Certainly not a GFE and not worth 2008 HKD!

Overpriced.

Face 6-7

Body 6

Service 4

Not recommended. I will head back to the "Daily Spa" in TST next time where I had an excellent GFE for the same cost.

You should have complained to the manager about poor service and photoshopping, etc. These expensive spas are run by the hotel and you can complain without fear. Not like YS where the triad boss may show up or WC WGs or 141s where there's nobody to complain to.

[QUOTE=Lucky 88; 1549954]Went to check out Kobe Sauna in TST, it is in the 2nd basement of the Regal Kowloon Hotel in TST East.

I found some reports praising the service from 2012.

Just going down to the basement everything looks dated. Arrived at the door, got greeted by 2 ladies in worn uniforms with a price list. 90 minutes including FS went up to 2008 HKD now.

You pay first and go into the changing area where the attendant stands right next to you pretending to help while you undress. Strange.

Off to the shower, after shower you change into shorts and robe and head to the relaxation / waiting room.

There they offer drinks and you wait a few minutes for your massage. They bring you down a corridor with approx. 20 rooms, standard massage place setup so far, all a bit old looking.

In the room I was greeted by a girl not to my liking, looks 6 at most and not slim. So I asked the guy if I can change. No problem 2 minutes later in pops the 2nd girl she was maximum a 7, but not so slim either (I like slim) so I rejected again. Next comes the Manager with an I-pad and photos of the girls. All grand looking, wow, but then he points out the girl that was just there and I realized the heavy Photoshopping that went on.

Anyway I pick a slim girl which arrives 5 minutes later.

Looked OK maybe a 7, but later after undressing I think she must have been late 20s, with slightly sagging tummy.

The room by the way was in near darkness as they hang towels over the lights. When I tried to remove them a little the lady did not approve and we finally settled only on a little more light.

Massage started and after approx. 30 mins she starts massaging my bum and undressing. Great, I thought, on the main course.

She only did CBJ, did not want to do DATY and all was the very "mechanical" standard of a China massage parlor. Wants to sit on you right away and starts moaning before you even enter her, declaring her love and how beautiful you are, has issues with many positions and offered to finish me off with a hand job after 10 minutes already! Certainly not a GFE and not worth 2008 HKD!

Overpriced.

Face 6-7.

Body 6.

Service 4.

Not recommended. I will head back to the "Daily Spa" in TST next time where I had an excellent GFE for the same cost.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Johnny Rocket;1550152]You should have complained to the manager about poor service and photoshopping, etc. These expensive spas are run by the hotel and you can complain without fear. Not like YS where the triad boss may show up or WC WGs or 141s where there's nobody to complain to.[/QUOTE]Ummm I think they very specifically are not run by the hotel, Johnny.

The hotel owners (which in this case is a related company to the hotel management company) leases the space to them and thats the end of the involvement by the hotel. The spa management and hotel management have no relationship other than lessor / lessee. No one in the hotel will help you with poor service by the spa.

[QUOTE=FreebieFan; 1550254]Ummm I think they very specifically are not run by the hotel, Johnny.

The hotel owners (which in this case is a related company to the hotel management company) leases the space to them and thats the end of the involvement by the hotel. The spa management and hotel management have no relationship other than lessor / lessee. No one in the hotel will help you with poor service by the spa.[/QUOTE]Yeah I meant the spa management, not hotel. My mistake.

Thanks for the review mate. I was planning to visit Kobe this Friday. Idler31 and Lucky88's review of Daily spa looks tempting. Now will visit it tomorrow.

[QUOTE=Lucky 88; 1549954]Went to check out Kobe Sauna in TST, it is in the 2nd basement of the Regal Kowloon Hotel in TST East.

I found some reports praising the service from 2012.

Just going down to the basement everything looks dated. Arrived at the door, got greeted by 2 ladies in worn uniforms with a price list. 90 minutes including FS went up to 2008 HKD now.

You pay first and go into the changing area where the attendant stands right next to you pretending to help while you undress. Strange.

Off to the shower, after shower you change into shorts and robe and head to the relaxation / waiting room.

There they offer drinks and you wait a few minutes for your massage. They bring you down a corridor with approx. 20 rooms, standard massage place setup so far, all a bit old looking...[/QUOTE]

Can anybody give me some information on swinging couples or naughty wives? Important is that a man can join.

Please PM me?

Thanks!

Think you are on the wrong website. This site is mainly pay-for-play. And there a number of swinging web sites.

Didn't feel like complaining would have improved anything. I saw 3 girls in the flesh, all Okish, but not great. The whole operation did not feel up to the standard, maybe after Daily Spa my expectations were too high.

[QUOTE=Johnny Rocket;1550302]Yeah I meant the spa management, not hotel. My mistake.[/QUOTE]

In Hong Kong Craiglist should work for MFM not so much for MFF. Adult Friendfinder is OK, you can have some good finds on there, another one I tried with little success is Ashley Madison, but this all takes time. Depending on what you are looking for and what you have to offer. Should be reasonably easy as a man to get an MFM with a couple, but if you are a single guy looking for girls or a couple looking for MFF it takes time and some patience, I have not tried Date in Asia, some guys wrote they had success with it . Pay for play is always a good option.

[QUOTE=Headline; 1550473]Can anybody give me some information on swinging couples or naughty wives? Important is that a man can join.

Please PM me?

Thanks![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Chantik;1551077]Think you are on the wrong website. This site is mainly pay-for-play. And there a number of swinging web sites.[/QUOTE]Well are there no couples were I can join pay for play?

[QUOTE=Headline;1553769]Well are there no couples were I can join pay for play?[/QUOTE]There are a few who advertise on CL occasionally, or you can probably find some on AFF if you can wade through all the fakes.

[QUOTE=Headline;1553769]Well are there no couples were I can join pay for play?[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Chantik;1551077]Think you are on the wrong website. This site is mainly pay-for-play. And there a number of swinging web sites.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Johnny Rocket;1554389]There are a few who advertise on CL occasionally, or you can probably find some on AFF if you can wade through all the fakes.[/QUOTE]Headline, it is not clear to me if you want to pay or get paid. In either case you should check the other sections. But please report back if you have success! You also need to pay Jackson to PM.

Sorry for asking the question. I did RTFF but could not find the address / location of Daily Spa.

I would be grateful if a board member could provide details.

Thanks in advance.

[QUOTE=Ap123;1550337]Thanks for the review mate. I was planning to visit Kobe this Friday. Idler31 and Lucky88's review of Daily spa looks tempting. Now will visit it tomorrow.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Jopj1; 1557409]Sorry for asking the question. I did RTFF but could not find the address / location of Daily Spa.

I would be grateful if a board member could provide details.

Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]Don't worry about the address. Just search Daily Spa in google and get contact number from there and call / text the person. His English is very good and can guide you. I communicated with them through SMS and he replied imediately.

I was too busy for last few days, so can't provide FR. I must say that whateve Idler31 and Lucky88 has said is all true. Its expensive, but the experience is mindblowing. This is a must-go place for all mongers.

Makati Birthday Party will be held 8pm to 10pm on Thursday the 15th May. Free food and drink. Invitation only. I will attend (if time premits) and greet some ISGer's

Hi,

I have been an on and off fan of Escape (previously Fenwicks) for close to a decade & have fond memories of my first few times there (remember the way the Columbians used to line themselves along the side wall?).

I was there last night, arrived perfectly sober & after a while began to note that the quality of the girls was probably as high as I have ever seen it. Even the Columbians (seems to be the HK term for all South Americans but you know what I mean) were pretty, not the fat ass, unfriendly types who have been frequenting the place of recent years.

Only complaints are that it was damn loud (old age?) & also too dark to really see the girls. I had actually spotted many of them walking along Jaffe towards Escape previously while I was having a few beers outside Dusk 'til Dawn & was then able to peruse around Escape looking for those I had spotted earlier.

Wan't mongering so didn't get to talking to many so as to avoid temptation but also because it get's damn expensive if you want to chat to a lot of them (buying a drink seems a lot more necessary now than it used to be?) but there seemed to be a good mix of Phils, Indos & even what looked like Chinese faces (which I am guessing were from Thailand or Vietnam with some Chinese blood?).

Hats off to the Immigration officers, they are only letting the pretty ones in.

Earlier in the week I have been in HK Cafe, Neptune III, Makati and at the end of the night Bar 109 & Players and I can't say it's a general trend (although Players seems a lot more relaxed than in previous years and has an interesting mix of pro and non-pro which creates a more fun vibe. Stayed there until 10am Thurs morning!).

Overall experience was really encouraging, because overall the WanChai bar scene was beginning to seem a less interesting place for Mongering or even a night on the town than it was when I first arrived. Was it just me or do other bro's agree.

HK Tom

Hey,

I will be in the area until May 6 and have tried sauna already.

Would like to join a group or another member.

Please, you cAn reach me on wechat with the same username as here.

When is the next group fun? I want to try a foursome or more, would like to swap gal with too.

Any other kinky play is good. If you prefer PM that would be good as well.

Was in HK one night only, with colleagues not in the hunt so discretion was necessary. Checked Craigslist since I couldn't "safely" hunt and bring my prize home.

Found Cindy, a pleasant Indo, and communicated with her to set things up.

[url]http://hongkong.craigslist.hk/cas/4435405092.html[/url]

Texting worked well, and she arrived at the appointed hour. Very friendly, very passionate, very talented with her tongue as advertised. She would've stayed overnight had I wanted. Multiple rounds, decent BBBJ with swallow, very capable massage. Very talkative and friendly. Treat her respectfully and she will give you a very good time.

[QUOTE=Ebauche; 1562777]Found Cindy, a pleasant Indo, and communicated with her to set things up.

[url]http://hongkong.craigslist.hk/cas/4435405092.html[/url][/QUOTE]Indeed Nearly the whole of her ad is about her tongue skills. Whats was the damage on this?

[QUOTE=BionicMan;1562801]Indeed Nearly the whole of her ad is about her tongue skills. Whats was the damage on this?[/QUOTE]1500HKD, for as long as I wished her to be there. 1 shot or overnight. She didn't count, nor even want to look at what I gave her. She preferred the pretense of receiving a gift of spending money.

[QUOTE=Ebauche;1562836]1500HKD, for as long as I wished her to be there. 1 shot or overnight. She didn't count, nor even want to look at what I gave her. She preferred the pretense of receiving a gift of spending money.[/QUOTE]Thanks, seems a fair price for what you reported being on the tray.

You guys are funny. The custom in western countries is to put the money in an envelope and give it to the lady at the beginning of the booking. The theory goes that it saves embarrassment. Seems similar to the situation with Cindy.

[QUOTE=Chantik;1562995]The custom in western countries is to put the money in an envelope and give it to the lady at the beginning of the booking.[/QUOTE]Wrong. The "custom" in western countries you reference isn't uniform, and is practiced for three reasons, none of which is embarrassment-related.

1)"Gift" in envelope supposedly provides plausible deniability regarding engaging in an illegal act.

2) Collecting before, envelope or not, ensures the girl gets paid, whether or not she delivers as implied / promised. She can not deliver. It's illegal, what can the guy do? Also protects the girl against unscrupulous guys who fuck first, then refuse to pay after. It's illegal. What can she do? Generally girls in the USA typically count every Jackson before anything starts, even a conversation. It is all transactional with most of them.

3) Collecting before allows the girl to claim that such payment only is the "agency fee," of which she gets nothing or only a small amount. If anything more than idle conversation is to occur, significant extra tipping will be required, again before even one shred of clothing is removed.

These behaviors aren't uniform, but they are not uncommon. The ideal provider in a western country where prostitution is illegal provides GFE services, and accepts payment after (in full from a satisfied and honest customer).

[QUOTE=Ebauche; 1563074]Wrong. The "custom" in western countries you reference isn't uniform, and is practiced for three reasons, none of which is embarrassment-related.

1)"Gift" in envelope supposedly provides plausible deniability regarding engaging in an illegal act.

2) Collecting before, envelope or not, ensures the girl gets paid, whether or not she delivers as implied / promised. She can not deliver. It's illegal, what can the guy do? Also protects the girl against unscrupulous guys who fuck first, then refuse to pay after. It's illegal. What can she do? Generally girls in the USA typically count every Jackson before anything starts, even a conversation. It is all transactional with most of them.

3) Collecting before allows the girl to claim that such payment only is the "agency fee," of which she gets nothing or only a small amount. If anything more than idle conversation is to occur, significant extra tipping will be required, again before even one shred of clothing is removed.

These behaviors aren't uniform, but they are not uncommon. The ideal provider in a western country where prostitution is illegal provides GFE services, and accepts payment after (in full from a satisfied and honest customer).[/QUOTE]You don't advertise On CL if you are shy about about receiving money in return for sexual favors. You don't quote a price if you are shy about receiving money. And the ladies adds are very suggestive in terms of pics and services listed. Doubt she is shy about receiving money.

And your response indicates that it is more common than uncommon to receive payment at the beginning of the session in western countries. Gee - For example private escorts in Australia are all heading towards deposit fees days/weeks before a booking.

[QUOTE=Chantik; 1563226]You don't advertise On CL if you are shy about about receiving money in return for sexual favors. You don't quote a price if you are shy about receiving money. And the ladies adds are very suggestive in terms of pics and services listed. Doubt she is shy about receiving money.

And your response indicates that it is more common than uncommon to receive payment at the beginning of the session in western countries. Gee. For example private escorts in Australia are all heading towards deposit fees days / weeks before a booking.[/QUOTE]I would contend that there is no such thing as a 'common' standard. There are many Western countries, and surely many different approaches, even within the one country.

And I have no idea if the Australian approach that you describe is standard throughout all the states. Australia has different prostitution laws in each state which may affect payment standards; or it did last time I was there (I am Australian, but rarely return there).

BTW, I think that you and Ebauche are using the word 'embarrassment' with different nuances of meaning. Ebauche's point (2) probably equates to your use of the word: saves the embarrassment of a shitfight over payment.

And Ebauche describes the [b]"ideal payment"[/b], where prostitution is illegal, as being after the fact. For providers, the ideal approach is payment before; for customers the ideal is payment after!

Cheers

[QUOTE=Chantik; 1563226]You don't advertise On CL if you are shy about about receiving money in return for sexual favors. You don't quote a price if you are shy about receiving money. And the ladies adds are very suggestive in terms of pics and services listed. Doubt she is shy about receiving money.

And your response indicates that it is more common than uncommon to receive payment at the beginning of the session in western countries. Gee. For example private escorts in Australia are all heading towards deposit fees days / weeks before a booking.[/QUOTE]In the USA, as a respected repeat customer, price and payment isn't even mentioned at all. There have even been times a provider and I have BOTH forgotten until I've already left. I have always immediately returned and cleared things up. I wish to remain a respected repeat customer with a select few USA providers. However, you can pretty much expect in the USA to pay up front.

In German FKKs, everything is strictly ex post facto, regardless of whether the sex is perfunctory and transactional or playful and GFE.

However, in Asia (in my experience mainland China, HKG, S. Korea, Taiwan, Philippines, Singapore, Indonesia, Cambodia, Vietnam & Thailand. Note I have zero experience in Japan) I almost ALWAYS pay after (excepting bar fines and sometimes online call girls). Those times when a girls agrees to get paid after while we are in the bar, but changes her tune back at my hotel, more often than not I will remind her of our agreement, show her my cash, and express intent to tip for good service, but only AFTER. If she digs her stilettos into the floor and demands up front payment, I usually show her the door and invite her to leave. I then either call it a night, disappointed, or return to the hunt. The reason I do this, especially if I'm close to the bar where I met my belle du nuit, is that generally when I've paid up front the experience tends to be rushed and unsatisfying, as the lass too often is counting the cash from her NEXT customer in her mind before she's done with me. This is particularly true for LT arrangements, where a girl can be sorely tempted to turn one LT into potentially two STs. When that clash over payments occurs, what it truly signifies is that I've made a mistake and misread the girl and our chemistry. So, I chalk it up to lessons learned and send her away. I tend to frequent the same establishments, and to become known. I understand some of the girls might have been poorly treated by other mongers. And I know many new girls (especially Vietnamese in SIN) are counseled by their elder sisters to demand cash up front. But that just doesn't work for me. I treat the girls respectfully, and those who know me understand I am honest and will treat them right. More often than not a girl I've sent away apologizes the next night and asks for another chance. Note however that the rules with online call girls seem a bit different. Cash up front is more of a given, but in most cases you're dealing with a behind-the-scenes pimp pulling the strings. Cindy's approach therefore surprised me. We ended up having a great time, are still communicating, and I'll absolutely see her next time I'm in HKG. She likely didn't intend it, but her approach essentially is good customer service and good marketing. Word of mouth about her mouth, so to speak.

Boils down to this with any given provider. Her body, her rules about how she allows me to enjoy it. My money, my rules about how and when I choose to part with it. Different rules in different markets and through different channels.

FWIW, I'd let my balls turn blue before I paid a deposit.

[QUOTE=Ebauche; 1563512]In the USA, as a respected repeat customer, price and payment isn't even mentioned at all. There have even been times a provider and I have BOTH forgotten until I've already left. I have always immediately returned and cleared things up. I wish to remain a respected repeat customer with a select few USA providers. However, you can pretty much expect in the USA to pay up front.

In German FKKs, everything is strictly ex post facto, regardless of whether the sex is perfunctory and transactional or playful and GFE.

However, in Asia (in my experience mainland China, HKG, S. Korea, Taiwan, Philippines, Singapore, Indonesia, Cambodia, Vietnam & Thailand. Note I have zero experience in Japan) I almost ALWAYS pay after (excepting bar fines and sometimes online call girls). Those times when a girls agrees to get paid after while we are in the bar, but changes her tune back at my hotel, more often than not I will remind her of our agreement, show her my cash, and express intent to tip for good service, but only AFTER. If she digs her stilettos into the floor and demands up front payment, I usually show her the door and invite her to leave. I then either call it a night, disappointed, or return to the hunt. The reason I do this, especially if I'm close to the bar where I met my belle du nuit, is that generally when I've paid up front the experience tends to be rushed and unsatisfying, as the lass too often is counting the cash from her NEXT customer in her mind before she's done with me. This is particularly true for LT arrangements, where a girl can be sorely tempted to turn one LT into potentially two STs. When that clash over payments occurs, what it truly signifies is that I've made a mistake and misread the girl and our chemistry. So, I chalk it up to lessons learned and send her away. I tend to frequent the same establishments, and to become known. I understand some of the girls might have been poorly treated by other mongers. And I know many new girls (especially Vietnamese in SIN) are counseled by their elder sisters to demand cash up front. But that just doesn't work for me. I treat the girls respectfully, and those who know me understand I am honest and will treat them right. More often than not a girl I've sent away apologizes the next night and asks for another chance. Note however that the rules with online call girls seem a bit different. Cash up front is more of a given, but in most cases you're dealing with a behind-the-scenes pimp pulling the strings. Cindy's approach therefore surprised me. We ended up having a great time, are still communicating, and I'll absolutely see her next time I'm in HKG. She likely didn't intend it, but her approach essentially is good customer service and good marketing. Word of mouth about her mouth, so to speak.

Boils down to this with any given provider. Her body, her rules about how she allows me to enjoy it. My money, my rules about how and when I choose to part with it. Different rules in different markets and through different channels.

FWIW, I'd let my balls turn blue before I paid a deposit.[/QUOTE]You are getting your knickers into a knot. My response to your original post highlighted the phrase the girl was shy to receive payment for her services, not about payment before or after service. And then you provided a link to the add which by CL Standards was a fairly strong in relation to the use of text, services and photos. You don't advertise online if you are shy about providing services for payment for services. On the contrary it takes COURAGE to advertise online.

We can be sure that the GIRL won't be shy for long, especially if she lives up to the SERVICES listed in her add.

[QUOTE=Chantik; 1563646]You are getting your knickers into a knot. My response to your original post highlighted the phrase the girl was shy to receive payment for her services, not about payment before or after service. And then you provided a link to the add which by CL Standards was a fairly strong in relation to the use of text, services and photos. You don't advertise online if you are shy about providing services for payment for services. On the contrary it takes COURAGE to advertise online.

We can be sure that the GIRL won't be shy for long, especially if she lives up to the SERVICES listed in her add.[/QUOTE]I never stated she was shy about receiving money, merely that she didn't want to count it. Actually, she didn't even want to touch it and wanted me to place it in her purse. She then thanked me for "spending money."

My inclusion of the link to her CL ad came before posting anything about payment or perceived behavior. You were the one who seemed to draw conclusions, then make blanket statements regarding common process. I merely tried to illustrate how common process actually works in a variety of locales and cultures, from the customer's POV.

Back to the girl in question, who I highly recommend, she's either very green (to P4P, not to bumping uglies), or has decided the demure damsel act is part of her "on stage persona."

[QUOTE=Paperman; 1545444]. Both advertise as VIP escorts for discerning gentlemen, but it would appear that pictures from both sites are stolen from various Asian models and actresses.

Cheers all.[/QUOTE]Wow. Thats really the first time I ever heard of that. NOT

We are 4 friends who plan to have a 2 nights stop over in HK.

Is there a place we can party?

Or a way to get 4 chicks company to our hotel?

Any help will be appreciate.

Can anyone please tell me how is the scene in Hong-Kong to find a white escort girl there are lots of website claiming to be providing white escort girls but are these girls indeed genuine and the same as what they put on their website. Is there any other genuine website of agency which has the same model what they show on their website?

As a visitor to HK Learning the punting idiosyncracies of a new city is always an interesting curve, first impressions can sometimes be insightful. I had done a scan of the 141 and 161 websites and from there narrowed the target destination down to Sham Shui Po, based on the large amount of girls available around there. The 141 website in particular is helpful in that you can select a street, (preferably the one you are standing on, and it will list all the available walk ups on that street). Navigation for dummies really.

Having limited time to sneak away from Lady OS without raising suspicions, I caught the MTR from Sha Tin. First visit was a Sunday afternoon and emerging from the MTR was a reminder of just how busy this city gets. Lots of Indonesian girls milling around and If one had a place to take them and a little bahasa. I think it would be fairly easy to dispense with the walk ups.

One of my aims was to see how easy it was to get BBFS, having got this first time last year with a 141 walk up. My general rule of thumb is to offer the initial price again as an inducement. This works in a surprising amount of instances.

The places are quite easy to spot for out of town mongers once you recognise the signs, they are always up a dingy stairway one or two levels above the street. The entrance will generally have a pink flourescent light fitting above it and often a crudely written a, b, c,d, e. This designates the rooms. Climb up. The girls who are busy will have turned the signs on their doors to "WAIT", if she is free, it will say "BELL"

Being a Sunday it was busy. Not so many were free. Quality was varied from nice to run as fast as you can. A warning for mongers from other jurisdictions is that I believe the rules for these girls is that once you cross the threshold into the room, afee becomes payable. A funny story on that later.

Of three ladies, the first two refused my inducements to forget the condom. The third who was quite a good looking girl did not hesitate. It was all OS could do to not come in a lovely feeling pussy with big Firm C cup mammaries in my face. Got dressed washed upand hot footed it back to Sha Tin. Having saved my seed. Whew!

My next HK discovery was two mornings later. Up early I caught the MTR back to Sham Shui Po at seven AM, this is better. HK in the mornings is a different place before everybody gets up. The pink flouro fittings stood out up all the streets. This was a morning run with a difference. Up stairs, down stairs quite a workout really. On to the next light. Some places were locked, a surprising amount were not but the WAIT signs were out in force. A few still had the BELL sign out and I was recieved by two ladies. One of whom I crossed the doorway too quickly before realising this woman was of considerable years. But she wouldn't let me out. Each time I pulled at the door she pushed it shut. She was strong so strong! Finally as I was running out of puff, OS had to concede defeat and handed over 200HKD and voila! She let me out. OS took off down the stairs feeling pretty sheepish. But thems the rules it seems.

Capped my morning run off with a visit back to my BBFS babe of two days earlier. This time I let a big load go inside of her while sucking on one of her oversize nipples Yum, it felt so good. Bolted back down my last set of stairs, down into the MTR and emerged from the Elevator in Sha Tin 15 minutes later with a fresh coffee in hand Just as Lady OS was contemplating getting out of bed. Nothing like a morning walk to start the day.

All in all, these girls were mostly 6/10 their rooms were all spotlessly clean despite the surroundings. I did one extended afternoon foray through this district a week later but out of around eight girls, only one would do BB. Most did BBBJ. A lot of effort for limited success but thats how you learn to punt.

Hope that helps.

OS

Hello, Long time lurker first time poster.

Although I have visited HK in the past before, work has been such that I've had very few opportunities to actually get out for some mongering. However, I finally had a trip recently where I would have some time away from colleagues and decided to finally give it a go.

After going through the thread, I decided to try my luck at 37 Dundas. From RTFF, I was aware that once I got in I would be presented with a couple of not great options initially. This is exactly what happened and I told the mama-san I wanted to see other options. Unfortunately, I spent 5 minutes arguing with the mama-san who kept insisting that there were no options available. It was getting late so I gave up and asked to see the initial girls again.

I went with one who smiled a little more and who seemed to have a slightly better figure (of course that would turn out be wishful thinking). Up the stairs to the hotel, where surprisingly I was only asked to pay 100 HKD instead of the 120 HKD I was expecting. Once in the room, the clothes come off and it's clear that there was a lot of help from the wonder bra. After a quick shower, we proceed to a quick BBBJ, followed by missionary and doggie.

To be honest, I had had a few whiskeys earlier that day and wasn't likely to cum very soon. She didn't seem very happy about how long I was taking though and wanted to switch to a HJ. That wasn't going to really help so I asked her to switch to a BJ which wasn't well received, until I proposed a 100 HKD tip. The service got pretty enthusiastic at this stage and I eventually finished off a few minutes later.

On the whole I didn't find it a great experience. Any suggestions from experienced members on how to get a better experience?

[QUOTE=Offshore Swell; 1565741].

Having limited time to sneak away from Lady OS without raising suspicions, I caught the MTR from Sha Tin. First visit was a Sunday afternoon and emerging from the MTR was a reminder of just how busy this city gets. Lots of Indonesian girls milling around and If one had a place to take them and a little bahasa. I think it would be fairly easy to dispense with the walk ups.

One of my aims was to see how easy it was to get BBFS, having got this first time last year with a 141 walk up. My general rule of thumb is to offer the initial price again as an inducement. This works in a surprising amount of instances.

The places are quite easy to spot for out of town mongers once you recognise the signs, they are always up a dingy stairway one or two levels above the street. The entrance will generally have a pink flourescent light fitting above it and often a crudely written a, be, see, the, e. This designates the rooms. Climb up. The girls who are busy will have turned the signs on their doors to "WAIT", if she is free, it will say "BELL"

Being a Sunday it was busy. Not so many were free. Quality was varied from nice to run as fast as you can. A warning for mongers from other jurisdictions is that I believe the rules for these girls is that once you cross the threshold into the room, afee becomes payable. A funny story on that later.

Of three ladies, the first two refused my inducements to forget the condom. The third who was quite a good looking girl did not hesitate. It was all OS could do to not come in a lovely feeling pussy with big Firm C cup mammaries in my face. Got dressed washed upand hot footed it back to Sha Tin. Having saved my seed. Whew!

My next HK discovery was two mornings later. Up early I caught the MTR back to Sham Shui Po at seven AM, this is better. HK in the mornings is a different place before everybody gets up. The pink flouro fittings stood out up all the streets. This was a morning run with a difference. Up stairs, down stairs quite a workout really. On to the next light. Some places were locked, a surprising amount were not but the WAIT signs were out in force. A few still had the BELL sign out and I was recieved by two ladies. One of whom I crossed the doorway too quickly before realising this woman was of considerable years. But she wouldn't let me out. Each time I pulled at the door she pushed it shut. She was strong so strong! Finally as I was running out of puff, OS had to concede defeat and handed over 200HKD and voila! She let me out. OS took off down the stairs feeling pretty sheepish. But thems the rules it seems.

Capped my morning run off with a visit back to my BBFS babe of two days earlier. This time I let a big load go inside of her while sucking on one of her oversize nipples Yum, it felt so good. Bolted back down my last set of stairs, down into the MTR and emerged from the Elevator in Sha Tin 15 minutes later with a fresh coffee in hand Just as Lady OS was contemplating getting out of bed. Nothing like a morning walk to start the day.

All in all, these girls were mostly 6/10 their rooms were all spotlessly clean despite the surroundings. I did one extended afternoon foray through this district a week later but out of around eight girls, only one would do BB. Most did BBBJ. A lot of effort for limited success but thats how you learn to punt.

Hope that helps.

OS[/QUOTE]Eventually, we will go to your funeral.

Then your SO's funeral.

Just my opinion.

Enjoy and report, covered.

P13.

[QUOTE=Pushkin13; 1566664]Eventually, we will go to your funeral.

Then your SO's funeral.

Just my opinion.

Enjoy and report, covered.

P13.[/QUOTE]Thanks so much for your kind concerns, I was getting quite worried untill I noticed your oxymoron.

Regards OS

[QUOTE=Chantik;1561958]Makati Birthday Party will be held 8pm to 10pm on Thursday the 15th May. Free food and drink. Invitation only. I will attend (if time premits) and greet some ISGer's[/QUOTE]First of all, congratulations to the New Makati for being in business for 25 years. That being said, it was a total sausage fest! The male:female ratio was like 20:1. Clearly, all the guys there didn't mind being with a lot of other guys if there's free beer.

[QUOTE=OneEyedMan;1567961]First of all, congratulations to the New Makati for being in business for 25 years. That being said, it was a total sausage fest! The male:female ratio was like 20:1. Clearly, all the guys there didn't mind being with a lot of other guys if there's free beer.[/QUOTE]What did you expect. It was by invitation only for the regulars. Not the on and off pro's (who are recently thinned out a lot). And it was not on a Sunday afternoon.

The bigger issue was the guys who go to Makati once a year, but somehow think they should receive an invitation. And some manage to get an invitation. Definitely less ladies in attendance because lots of ladies have had their refugee status claim processed (unsuccessfully). I imagine that after the Indo helpers stop coming in 2017 there will be more visiting on tourist visa's. There was another visit by immigration / police to Wabchai last night. They seem to be visiting more often!

[QUOTE=Chantik;1568380]The bigger issue was the guys who go to Makati once a year, but somehow think they should receive an invitation. And some manage to get an invitation. Definitely less ladies in attendance because lots of ladies have had their refugee status claim processed (unsuccessfully). I imagine that after the Indo helpers stop coming in 2017 there will be more visiting on tourist visa's. There was another visit by immigration / police to Wabchai last night. They seem to be visiting more often![/QUOTE]I always get invitations for the various parties when I ask the door people nicely. Maybe they know me and that I always buy drinks and don't cause trouble, but it seems that all you have to do to get an invitation is just ask.

Chantik, please elaborate on what's changing with Indonesian domestic helpers. Are many of them asking for asylum? Is it just for economic reasons, or there are other reasons? What's going on in 2017? Will the number of helpers be reduced by Indonesia or Hong Kong?

One other comment. Back in the Fenwick's days, it seemed that the majority of the DHs were from the Philippines, whereas these days the majority seems to be from Indonesia. What's changed?

[QUOTE=OneEyedMan;1568670]I always get invitations for the various parties when I ask the door people nicely. Maybe they know me and that I always buy drinks and don't cause trouble, but it seems that all you have to do to get an invitation is just ask.

Chantik, please elaborate on what's changing with Indonesian domestic helpers. Are many of them asking for asylum? Is it just for economic reasons, or there are other reasons? What's going on in 2017? Will the number of helpers be reduced by Indonesia or Hong Kong?

One other comment. Back in the Fenwick's days, it seemed that the majority of the DHs were from the Philippines, whereas these days the majority seems to be from Indonesia. What's changed?[/QUOTE]Indonesian Government made the decision about helpers. Apparently they want to send workers under the skilled category who will be eligible for permanent residency. Think Hk has started getting the / H from Bangladesh / Myanmar. There are already complaints about lack of English / Cantonese and ability to work fast.

Indo's seeking Asylum has been going on for 2 or 3 years. Lady is picked up by the police/immigration for overstay - Immediately claim they can't return to Indo. HK Govt must follow the UN rules. This usually gives the ladies one or two years extra in HK.

Phillipine ladies found it hard to get repeat tourist visas for the last 2 or 3 years. Not many Indo's in Escape now with ladies having to swipe their I'd and photo. Usually around 5 or 10.

Popped into Nep 3 last night. The ladies are aggressive with the guys. Average crowd for a Saturday night. Even amount of men and women. Actually was surprised at the number of Indo ladies. Previously this has not been a favorite venue.

I notice there is now an Escort Review section. Hope to see reviews from the guys. I may get a mention !

Anyone checked out some of the girls here? I think the China and locals here are no doubt true females but I'm a tad concerned about the 'mixed' group here. Some of them look nice and quite a few offer anal service. Any chance some of these are not female but 'cut' transvestites?

Been away due to work for AGES and needed to scratch my itch elsewhere. Looking forward to returning to Hong Kong and jumping back into the bar scene in a couple of months time.

Has anyone been to Hari's in TST recently?

Escape & HK Cafe in WC, how's the action there?

Welcome any up to date information.

Please do share.

Many thanks.

Just back from a weekend in HK.

Stayed at the Holiday In Golden mile and visited Haris bar.

Around 10-11 Pm you can find the regular mix of local, South American, Russian and Black FL.

One great Brazilian, tall and sweet blacks.

Price for ST more or less 2000.

Enjoy

[QUOTE=TonyToro;1570552]Been away due to work for AGES and needed to scratch my itch elsewhere. Looking forward to returning to Hong Kong and jumping back into the bar scene in a couple of months time.

Has anyone been to Hari's in TST recently?

Escape & HK Cafe in WC, how's the action there?

Welcome any up to date information.

Please do share.

Many thanks.[/QUOTE]

Spent 3 days in HK.

Searched the Craig ist as always and got some interesting contacts. All of them were big fails.

Haris Bar at the Golden mile holiday in was the best.

For first night had a great black chick from Zambia, tall, slim and smiling. For 2000 she was real GFE.

Second night spent in Macau (Rio Sauna) and third night again to Haris and took the brazilian chick. Great service for 2500.

[QUOTE=TonyToro;1570552]
Escape & HK Cafe in WC, how's the action there?

[/QUOTE]I stopped by Escape Saturday night about 11:00 PM, just over two weeks ago. There were maybe 3 or 4 stunners, Colombians I think, and the majority of the rest of the women were reasonably attractive. There were maybe 25 women total, of which about 15 were Latinas, I think. By that I mean some could have been from the FSU and I thought they were light-skinned Hispanics. It was worth a visit IMHO, unlike New Makati and Neptune III where there were only dogs. I priced one woman, a Costa Rican who asked for 2,000 HKD, but didn't take her.

I wish I'd read Zamziv's post before I went. My hotel was a couple of blocks from Hari's but I didn't know about the pro's.

[QUOTE=Tiny12;1573077] It was worth a visit IMHO, unlike New Makati and Neptune III where there were only dogs. I priced one woman, a Costa Rican who asked for 2,000 HKD, but didn't take her.
[/QUOTE]Almost double the price compared to most of the Wan Chai bars. Is the extra worth it?

Anyone checked out some of the girls here? I think the China and locals here are no doubt true females but I'm a tad concerned about the 'mixed' group here. Some of them look nice and quite a few offer anal service. Any chance some of these are not female but 'cut' transvestites?

[QUOTE=SlowReloader;1574464]Anyone checked out some of the girls here? I think the China and locals here are no doubt true females but I'm a tad concerned about the 'mixed' group here. Some of them look nice and quite a few offer anal service. Any chance some of these are not female but 'cut' transvestites?[/QUOTE]The Thai girls in Fuji building are definitely post-op ladyboys... Scary stuff...

[QUOTE=BeijingLover;1574471]The Thai girls in Fuji building are definitely post-op ladyboys... Scary stuff...[/QUOTE]Wah Kin house (3/ F) in Tsuen Wan is where a few post-ops are. Also Kwai Chung and Jordan. Only on the miss site.

I went. Unintentionally first time. With one in Wah Kin house a while back.

Sort of twigged at the end. But then I went back a coupla times.

Once I even did a 3 P!

They are actually very nice. Very feminine. Some you can see a male resemblance poking thru as it were.

With many you can't.

They are not heavy in-your-face ladyboys, quite the opposite in fact.

And some do have exquisite bodies!

The giveaway on the miss site is the check against "Fuck Ass" generally, altho not always this indicates a post-op.

I haven been for a while but their service was always very gentle andattentive I found.

Not 'scary' at all IMHO.

Going by the posts about ladies offering anal. Hope it doesn't mean that I am a ladyboy!

Spending a few days in Hong Kong next week. Got a good rate at metropark wanchai. Hope its a good hotel for bringing.

Back my catch. Just wanted to.

Check if there are any good pick up bars / clubs for Filipino and Indonesian girls. I will start hunting around 08 pm.

What are the current charges for ST and LT.

Thanks in advance,

Regards

[QUOTE=DexRide;1574983]Spending a few days in Hong Kong next week. Got a good rate at metropark wanchai. Hope its a good hotel for bringing.

Back my catch. Just wanted to.

Check if there are any good pick up bars / clubs for Filipino and Indonesian girls. I will start hunting around 08 pm.

What are the current charges for ST and LT.

Thanks in advance,

Regards[/QUOTE]Why don't you just read some reports for the information you are looking for. It's all there and your hotel is right in the heart of the action.

Out of 15 posts, in 13 you have asked exactly the same questions for Dubai, Delhi, Mumbai etc.

Why not post us all a report and give some information instead of just asking?

[QUOTE=Chantik;1574696]Going by the posts about ladies offering anal. Hope it doesn't mean that I am a ladyboy![/QUOTE]If you are then I am switching "teams" LOL.

[QUOTE=SkyRyder;1575123]If you are then I am switching "teams" LOL. [/QUOTE]Guys are so paranoid. Anal is commonly offered by escorts. It doesn't mean they are a lady boy or post op.

Less than half of my GENTS ask for anal. It's not for everybody.

[QUOTE=Chantik;1575334]Guys are so paranoid. Anal is commonly offered by escorts. It doesn't mean they are a lady boy or post op.

Less than half of my GENTS ask for anal. It's not for everybody. [/QUOTE]So who is top and who is bottom? LOL.

There are many LBs in Wanchai (and almost where ever there are WGs). Not my cup of tea; I mean both of them.

[QUOTE=Jackthelad2;1575121]Why don't you just read some reports for the information you are looking for. It's all there and your hotel is right in the heart of the action.

Out of 15 posts, in 13 you have asked exactly the same questions for Dubai, Delhi, Mumbai etc.

Why not post us all a report and give some information instead of just asking?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=DexRide;1574983]Spending a few days in Hong Kong next week. [/QUOTE]JTL, was going to expand on your previous post to another chap but it had disappeared by the time I got to stable Internet. I agree with your comments to both posters!

[QUOTE=Boarer;1575607]So who is top and who is bottom? LOL.

There are many LBs in Wanchai (and almost where ever there are WGs). Not my cup of tea; I mean both of them.



JTL, was going to expand on your previous post to another chap but it had disappeared by the time I got to stable Internet. I agree with your comments to both posters![/QUOTE]It depends if Gents ask for the strap on service. You need to be versatile.

[QUOTE=Chantik;1575869]It depends if Gents ask for the strap on service. You need to be versatile.[/QUOTE]Hmmm. Usually focused on my OEM equipment and never thought of wearing a strap on. That would "open many new doors".... LOL

After getting to know the special Chantik this morning. Now at Neptune III and the scene really IS dull. Maybe too early?

[QUOTE=Adhik;1576766]After getting to know the special Chantik this morning. Now at Neptune III and the scene really IS dull. Maybe too early?[/QUOTE]Truly a great experience, I am sure and one of Hong Kong's best little secrets.

[QUOTE=Boarer;1576247]Hmmm. Usually focused on my OEM equipment and never thought of wearing a strap on. That would "open many new doors".... LOL[/QUOTE]LOL. I think Chantik was not referring to you wearing it. Just think who else is supposed to wear it, then.

[QUOTE=BionicMan;1576855]LOL. I think Chantik was not referring to you wearing it. Just think who else is supposed to wear it, then.[/QUOTE]Oooohhh. I see your POV. However, I still would prefer to be the one wearing it! LOL.

I was thinking of this ==> Google "strap on for men menage trois double penetration" as I am not sure if I can post an url. Even amazon has it! Not sure if prime.

How does the double mint jingle go? Double the fun? Enjoy!

I haven't see any guys wear a strap on. Think it would be a tight fit.

[QUOTE=Chantik;1577176]I haven't see any guys wear a strap on. Think it would be a tight fit.[/QUOTE]I defer to your expertise as I have not seen anyone wear one either! Though, I do know of one little insatiable vixen who would probably love me to get one to add to her toy chest from her previous punter / BF. 2 to 6 times on her day off and a couple times mid week were not enough for her! She has also indicated an affinity for anal!

[QUOTE=Visual;1576848]Truly a great experience, I am sure and one of Hong Kong's best little secrets.[/QUOTE]What is? Willing to share via PM? LOL.

was passing though hong kong the other day with a bit of time on my hands on the island.

i search of a good mp i headed to swatow street as another poster had mentioned an easy to find joint there.

well i walked up and down and the only place i could see was a thai mp at the end on the 1st floor. pressed the buzzer and headed up.

was greeted by a cutie with huge stick-out comedy ears. in very bad english she said all the girls were busy so it would be 20 minutes. ok i said, i'll wait. fine said big ears who brought me some water and i sat down to wait. after about 5 minutes another girl arrived who must have been 4 foot tall. was the thai circus in town i wondered? anyway midget starts to say that i couldn't stay as the boss would not be happy and anyway it will be an hour to wait so i'll have to come back. so you are throwing me out i ask? yep says midget. big ears peeked around the curtain with a sheepish shrug. so i fucked off.

i walked a couple of streets east and found a foot massage place also up on the first floor. couple of local dudes getting a foot rub up front. a mamasan type asked if i want body massage and then a young chick steered me into a room at the back. was hard to tell if it was legit or not as the room was full of old medical equipment and cupping pots. anyway the price seemed right (300 hk for an hour) and i was kinda done walking round, plus the girl was cute albeit rather sulky.

kit off, paper trunks on, face down and the massage starts. nice quality back massage then pulled off the trunks and down to the legs for some inner thigh teasing and a bit of "accidental" ball brushing. after 30 minutes she asks me to flip over and starts on my front. after a couple of minutes she points to my dick (now a boner under the towel) and asks "massage here?" with a smile. we horse trade on the price and settle at 150 and i get a good quality hj. tried to feel feel her up as she was wearing a shortish skirt but whilst she seemed cool for me to rub her breasts and ass over her clothes when i tried to get my fingers in her panties she pulled away.

anyway good finish with nice pressure as she kept pumping as i came not stopping the moment i spunked.

would definitely return although i prefer a bustier girl and some visual and tactile stim would have been nice.

i even finally got a smile as i walked out.

tt.

[QUOTE=Jackthelad2;1574282]Almost double the price compared to most of the Wan Chai bars. Is the extra worth it?[/QUOTE]Sorry, not following the thread. I wouldn't know as I didn't take her, but there were 2 or 3 Latinas in Escape that were head and shoulders above what I saw in other bars, and I would pay twice the price.

[QUOTE=Chantik;1577176]I haven't see any guys wear a strap on. Think it would be a tight fit.[/QUOTE]For what it's worth, I remember once watching a porn video on you porn where a guy wore a strap-on that hung below his erect penis, so he could perform a double-penetration act (vaginal / anal) on a lady. Perhaps that's the reference here?

[QUOTE=MightySpearsman;1578345]For what it's worth, I remember once watching a porn video on you porn where a guy wore a strap-on that hung below his erect penis, so he could perform a double-penetration act (vaginal / anal) on a lady. Perhaps that's the reference here?[/QUOTE]To be honest I do not think that is the option Chantik was referring to.

She is well experienced and knows the customer market more than anyone of us and she is also soft and not not graphic in her contributions hre (chapeau!) and what she said, even if unclear to some, could be read or udnerstood only in one way, trust me!

[quote=mightyspearsman;1578345]for what it's worth, i remember once watching a porn video on you porn where a guy wore a strap-on that hung below his erect penis, so he could perform a double-penetration act (vaginal / anal) on a lady. perhaps that's the reference here?[/quote]yeah. that was to which i was alluding. thought possible but not sure but did a slow google search as i was on my way to the airport on friday. looked like someone thought of it already and brought it to market. though, from the descriptions, the fake is on top (pubic bone support) and the bottom can be used with a penis ring.

no offense was meant on my part. always like to probe chantik for a peek inside her world. if she opens the back door a crack for in depth probing, i am most grateful. always value her pov. maybe the next isg reader she meets will bring one for a test drive. lol.

The following is something I wrote for another board and am just thinking / hoping it is of some use here. I am by no means fully versed as to what Hong Kong as a mongering destination is all about as I live a mostly Vanilla life when in Hong Kong. But, I do once a while quietly sneak off and errr - "partake!

Like any large metropolis, Hong Kong has different types of mongering activities and even within the particular types of activity, lots of variations.

I'll write in more detail about them if members here so wish, but I'll just make a brief general summary for now:

- Wanchai – around cross-streets Lockhart and Luard road. Area is mostly suited for foreigners not able to speak Chinese (both local expatriates as well as visitors). Filipino, Thai, Vietnamese, some S. American, Ex-soviet State etc. Providers abound. There are also, Domestic helpers part-timing especially week-ends when they have their day-off. Its Kowloon (way-less) counterpart is Hari's bar at the Holiday Golden Mile and the few bars facing the harbor at Tsimshatsui East.

- 141 walk-up girls – one girl one room set-ups offering a quick, economical and quite safe release. These are staffed mostly by permanent Hong Kong Identity card holders as there are raids against visitors illegally working whilst on visitor's visa. Just go to the building, knock on doors housing a 141 gal, politely negotiate or decline and off to the next one until you find what you're looking for. I would recommend this method as your first choice for mongering in Hong Kong – Very easy to accomplish and value for money IMHO. And if you are persistent / patient, you should be able to get a real good deal!!

- Hotel walk-in girls – can be daunting for visitors to get to these girls as you need to navigate via their handlers who mostly do not speak anything but Cantonese, requires a portable phone with a local number and can be a pain etc. Mostly well trained and better looking / younger PRC girls on a 2 week tourist visa, housed in 2-4 star hotels which you need to go to, although sometimes you can negotiate for overnights at your hotel for 3 times their usual rate plus taxi costs.

- Saunas / massage parlors – as there are laws against organized prostitution, sexual services are NOT a given and you need to do a bit of dancing around; some easy to do, some more tedious / costly some just not available. Mostly local MILFs or at best a rather disappointing looking younger provider.

- KTV's – a true shadow of its former glory when all the KTV partying went up to southern China with its cheap prices, great selection and quantity of girls etc. Nowadays, only a few tired over-priced places in Tsimshatsui and Mong Kok, some real dumps in Mongkok that's nothing more than a place to choose / go upstairs with disappointing girls (akin to a BBS type operation) or some small but very expensive places in Causeway Bay for the Hong Kong based Japanese or Koreans.

- Escort services, websites etc. – I'd really like to discourage you from even considering using this means to get your jollies; caters strictly to the meek, time-pressed or lazy visiting monger and thus you can expect only way over-priced and low quality providers. Just go to Wanchai, and I can pretty well guarantee that you will be approached by a number of providers.

- Street walkers – from Hong Kong's lowest priced girls walking about specific parts of Shamshuipo and Mong Kok to the PRC gals doing their walk-about in the open air plaza outside of the Regal and Royal Garden hotel in TST East. You get what you pay for – but as with all street walkers anywhere, I do advise caution, and of course do be careful with your possessions etc.

- Freebie action – whilst of course do-able anywhere, main venues are in Lan Kwai Fong / Soho in Central, Knutsford Terrace in Tsimshatsui. Locals do well in the small clubs and restaurants. Usually upstairs in multi-storied buildings in Causeway Bay and Mongkok.

Useful site to check out selection as well as to glean information from in its forums (English or Chinese).

All above of course strictly IMHO and what I know / think I know. Oooops!

So no brick bats please!

SEAJ

I understand it's not good form to ask a bunch of questions as a first post (or at any time unless you've also contributed a bit of knowledge) so I won't be asking Where, How Much, etc etc and I'll try to add information when I think it can be of use to others, I've asked some friends who live in HK / Shenzhen to help and one of them directed me to this site, so if you will help out with any information it would be greatly appreciated.

I always spend a few days transiting through HK on my way to China, most of the time I don't bother with the bar scene because I have a very cute young China Doll who takes care of all my needs, however 3 weeks ago I was staying in Wan Chai and feeling bored so I thought I'll check the scene out, I had intended to visit a few bars close by, have a few drinks and return back to my hotel unaccompanied.

As we've all experienced just when you think nothing going to happen that's when it does, my first stop was Neptune III, grabbed a seat at the end of the bar away from the band ordered a beer, first up the talent was not to my liking however there was a girl 2 seats down from me, who wouldn't turn around, I decided to do a lap of the bar to see if there was anything else. Nothing of any note, I know walked towards the girl who had her back to me and while meeting eye to eye the best I got was a small smile.

Took a seat back at the end of the bar and quickly a very attractive Chinese girl sat next to me, as quick as a flash she was firing question which hotel you stay, how long you stay in HK, we all know the drill, but frankly I've never like the straight out hard sell, I chat with her for a few minutes and said if she looking for a customer I'm not the one and she quickly disappeared. The girl who had her back to turns around and says that girl never smiles, we both started laughing and it was the perfect ice breaker. I moved closer and offered her a drink, and we continue to chat for maybe 2 hrs apart from be pestered by her rather overweight girlfriend were just enjoying the night.

It was about 1:30 and I'm thoughts of going home alone had changed this girl had me hook line and sinker, I asked would she like to come back with me, she said Yes but I will only go short time with customer, this is opposite to what I like as I like to sleep with some and find the morning session far more rewarding, but as I said she had me and if even of a short time I wanted her.

She ask me to please give her friend some drink money, WTF, but if it meant getting rid of her fine, it was only a very short walk back to my hotel (Wharney) the second we were in the room bang it was like neither of us had fucked in months, no need for details but we fucked until we were both exhausted I could last that long because I had nothing left after being with my China Doll. I know we all like to think we are super stubs and every bar girls can't get enough from us, but this was truly one of those occasions with her.

When we finished I expect her to catch her breath and be out, to my surprise she said I like to sleep now, I could be happier, we woke about 8 am for another unbelievable session, it was just after 10 am when we showered and she told me she doesn't like to leave hotel with the clothes see wore a NEPIII. No problem I wait here I went down stairs as the concierge were the closest shop was and with in 30 min I'm back with a nice little dress for her, she jumped up and down on the bed and if she was anymore than the 45 kg I'm sure she would have broken it. We stayed together all day, shopping for a few things / lunch and then back to the hotel for another session before my flight.

Guy's I'm trying to find this girl, Yes I can hear you all laughing now another punter falling for a bar girl, Yeah maybe true, but I truly would like to find out what's happened to her, if she got a BF that's great and I hope he takes care of her, she gave me her details but for the life of me I don't know where that little piece of paper is.

I got a buddy to call into NEPIII on 3 occasions and see if she was still there bit NO and asking a few of the other girls the all stayed tight lipped.

So if any of you out the have any details of this 22 yrs old Filipino named Ivy (her fat friend Honey) lives in Makati, I believe her when she said this was only the second time she has made the trip to HK, please PM me if you know how I can contact her.

Cheers and happy hunting to all of you.

[QUOTE=MrDimple;1539070]I promised a report for my second day in HK. I did not go to K-pressure but went back to the massage place at Swatow street. This time for a 2 hour oily massage. After two ours I gave the girl 500 dollars extra for FS.[/QUOTE]I went to Swatow Street and couldn't find your massage place. Only a Thai MP on the first floor where after entering they threw me out. See my FR on the other HK thread. Was it the Thai place or somewhere else? Any other MP intel?

TT

Navy is in town. This is usually good news for ladies and bad news for guys.

[QUOTE=NOZ2215;1581868]
I got a buddy to call into NEPIII on 3 occasions and see if she was still there bit NO and asking a few of the other girls the all stayed tight lipped.
So if any of you out the have any details of this 22 yrs old Filipino named Ivy (her fat friend Honey) lives in Makati, I believe her when she said this was only the second time she has made the trip to HK, please PM me if you know how I can contact her.
Cheers and happy hunting to all of you.[/QUOTE]Nice story and as an ex-punter who frequented Neptune 111, I am envious of your luck. Not a lot of guys like Neptune 111 and don't have much good to say about it, but I have always been lucky there. Did you have to pay her or make a small "donation" for her "time"?

As for your girl, what do you think she was there for in the first place? A quiet drink? I doubt it. She is probably more astute than you give her credit for. You (and her) had a great time. Good - and she got a dress, went shopping and a meal out of it as well. Ironically I met a girl called Ivy some time ago in the same place, but I can't remember much about her. You may just have got lucky.

I'm hoping to return later in the year to HK but a domestic illness has kept me from being there just now. Happy hunting and thanks for reminding me of happy memories there.

[QUOTE=Jackthelad2;1582090]Nice story and as an ex-punter who frequented Neptune 111, I am envious of your luck. Not a lot of guys like Neptune 111 and don't have much good to say about it, but I have always been lucky there. Did you have to pay her or make a small "donation" for her "time"?

As for your girl, what do you think she was there for in the first place? A quiet drink? I doubt it. She is probably more astute than you give her credit for. You (and her) had a great time. Good - and she got a dress, went shopping and a meal out of it as well. Ironically I met a girl called Ivy some time ago in the same place, but I can't remember much about her. You may just have got lucky.

I'm hoping to return later in the year to HK but a domestic illness has kept me from being there just now. Happy hunting and thanks for reminding me of happy memories there.[/QUOTE]Jack,

She was there for money not a quiet drink, her request was HK $4000 as I wanted to be with her I agreed HK $3000, she told me her first time to come to HK was in Mar '14 and this was her second, she was young and not yet battle hardened by the business yet, that's what I like about her, what she told me about herself I have no reason to doubt, she didn't ask for anytime more and she yes humble in her thanks for being kind to her.

If by chance you did meet the same girl (Ivy) I'm sure you'd remember her.

Recieved a call from my friend in HK and he may have a lead for me, throwing a few dollars around to working girls, seems to open not only their legs but theirs mouths also. Hope the domestic issue's you are now facing are behind soon and your back into HK & NEPIII soon.

[QUOTE=SEAsiaJoe;1581493]The following is something I wrote for another board and am just thinking / hoping it is of some use here. I am by no means fully versed as to what Hong Kong as a mongering destination is all about as I live a mostly Vanilla life when in Hong Kong. But, I do once a while quietly sneak off and errr - "partake!

Like any large metropolis, Hong Kong has different types of mongering activities and even within the particular types of activity, lots of variations.

I'll write in more detail about them if members here so wish, but I'll just make a brief general summary for
All above of course strictly IMHO and what I know / think I know. Oooops!

So no brick bats please!

SEAJ[/QUOTE]Great contribution, I linked it to the RoD hoping some class managers will read it too and saves some silly questions in the main forum.

[QUOTE=NOZ2215;1582207]Jack,

She was there for money not a quiet drink, her request was HK $4000 as I wanted to be with her I agreed HK $3000, working girls, seems to open not only their legs but theirs mouths also. Hope the domestic issue's you are now facing are behind soon and your back into HK & NEPIII soon.[/QUOTE]Wow!! $4000!

As I said, she was astute right enough! Even Chantik would not have asked for that!

Anyway you had a good time. But don't be taken in. She is a real pro. Could not have been the Ivy I met a while ago as I would not have paid anything near that price.

Hope you find what you are looking for.

[QUOTE=BionicMan;1582385]Great contribution, I linked it to the RoD hoping some class managers will read it too and saves some silly questions in the main forum.[/QUOTE]Totally agree. Might save some questions from those who don't RTTF, but somehow I doubt it.

[QUOTE=NOZ2215;1582207]Recieved a call from my friend in HK and he may have a lead for me, throwing a few dollars around to working girls, seems to open not only their legs but theirs mouths also.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Jackthelad2;1582416]Wow!! $4000!

As I said, she was astute right enough! Even Chantik would not have asked for that![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=NOZ2215;1581868]however 3 weeks ago I was staying in Wan Chai

So if any of you out the have any details of this 22 yrs old Filipino named Ivy (her fat friend Honey) lives in Makati, I believe her when she said this was only the second time she has made the trip to HK, please PM me if you know how I can contact her.[/QUOTE]First some technical stuff. There have been several similar searches on this thread but never an update on whether there were any successes on the searches and which strategies worked.

To receive or send PM you need to pay Jackson. Jackson will not strike gold like Ivy.

IMHO, throwing money will not get much worthwhile information. Posting a picture here might get better results (another poster tried this). The ladies usually do not use their real names and most are just looking for another way to separate your money from your handsome wallet.

She is most likely gone by now. Posting here might help find her as she might have her sights set on another location or might return to HK.

You did not mention which day she spent with you. Was it a public holiday or Sunday?

FWIW, the last time I was at NIII, there was a lady manager. I find the staff a better and more reliable route to track someone if you do not know the ladies in her hunting pack.

BTW, it is more fun the Philippines. You should try it. Good luck. Let us know what happened.

[QUOTE=Boarer;1582439]First some technical stuff. There have been several similar searches on this thread but never an update on whether there were any successes on the searches and which strategies worked.

FWIW, the last time I was at NIII, there was a lady manager. I find the staff a better and more reliable route to track someone if you do not know the ladies in her hunting pack.
[/QUOTE]That will be Mamasan Pearla. Quite a girl and good at her work. Likes, and is good at linking up the girls with potential customers who add to the bar takings. Manager Sam is a good guy who, when you get to know him as a regular customer will also look after you. Many a good night spent with him.

Boarer,

There is a couple of things I can confirm, I've paid a subscription so if anyone does have a number or other info they can PM me, also I know its her real name as she showed me her passport, and if I had a photo it's one of the first things I would have posted, also it was a Wednesday evening a pretty quiet night.

My Buddy has spoken to the female mamasan (who I also bought a couple of drinks) and she knows her, but doesn't have any contact details or know when or if she'll return. He was also could find one of the other working girls who knows her friend and said she can get information for me, that's my best lead to-date.

Jackthelad2, your right HK $3000 is probably way above the odds, but as I reported earlier she had me hook, line & sinker, the next day I talked to her about her charge rate, and her answer was this, I'm 22 I not want to go with customer every night, I can make enough with drinks and only go with the customer who pays me, she told me how the whole system works with drinks and kick backs.

While this girl has really touch me (interesting choose of words) I'm not a Newbie, I've lived and worked in Asia for 25 yrs, had my fair share of being taken for a Mug Punter, and have had my heart broken and wallet emptied, all part of life experiences. Whether my chase comes to something or not I'll let whoever's interested know through these pages.

Thanks guy's for the tips, appreciated.

[QUOTE=Jackthelad2;1582416]Wow!! $4000!

As I said, she was astute right enough! Even Chantik would not have asked for that!

Anyway you had a good time. But don't be taken in. She is a real pro. Could not have been the Ivy I met a while ago as I would not have paid anything near that price.

Hope you find what you are looking for.[/QUOTE]Guys are so sweet when they say the girls are not battle hardened. Asking 4000 for short time is ambitious and very battle hardened.

Jack - 4000 is OK for an overnight session organised through the net where you have a guaranteed 12 hrs. This is a similar price to the Velvet Bars. In Saying that I would go for a velvet bar girl every time, then online and finally a bar girl if I was a punter who was happy to pay 4000 for an overnight.

[QUOTE=BionicMan;1582385]Great contribution, I linked it to the RoD hoping some class managers will read it too and saves some silly questions in the main forum.[/QUOTE]Many thanks. I appreciate your kind words.

SEAJ

[QUOTE=Chantik;1582573]Guys are so sweet when they say the girls are not battle hardened. Asking 4000 for short time is ambitious and very battle hardened.

Jack - 4000 is OK for an overnight session organised through the net where you have a guaranteed 12 hrs. This is a similar price to the Velvet Bars. In Saying that I would go for a velvet bar girl every time, then online and finally a bar girl if I was a punter who was happy to pay 4000 for an overnight.[/QUOTE]Thanks for saying I'm sweet, I agree with you that asking 4000 is ambitious, however asking and getting is also very different, maybe most other punters laugh at her. I really dislike going back and forth over price, our conversation regarding price lasted less than 1 min.

Me: I like you to come back and stay with me.

Ivy: I'd like also.

Me: Will you stay until morning.

Ivy: No, only short time.

Me: How much do you require.

Ivy: HK $4000.

Me: Wow, that's a lot if you only stay a short time, I'll give you HK $3000.

Ivy: OK.

She may have excepted much less, who cares, I pay HK $3000 for a nice dinner and a good bottle of wine so what's the big deal, I notice there are many reports all over this site that focus only on the price they pay, maybe quite a few of you will think I'm stupid well that maybe the case in your eyes, No problem. My point being if I'm happy to pay that amount and I truly had a great experience with this young lady that's all that mattered.

Finally my words about her not being battle hardened, talking with her for several hrs over drinks at NEPIII, and then spending the majority of the next day with her, I think I'm in the best position to say what this girls character is like, if I'm ever able to connect with her again, I'll be able to verify what is told me about herself, until then I take her words as being honest & truthful, she didn't ask me for anything apart from the negotiated price, actually the way things turned out I got a great deal, 3 amazing sessions with her, and just as important her company until 5 pm before I left for the airport.

Chantik, I am just a mere punter if we were to compare life experiences, and I would never profess to know the feelings of girls in the business, but I was able to talk with her for quiet sometime, she 22 and is very very new, people grow up quickly in this line of business and I'm sure if she continues and I meet her in a year so, I'd find a very different attitude.

Let's see what info turns up in the next few weeks on this girl, and maybe you'll all be right in saying "I told you so".

Cheers

[QUOTE=NOZ2215;1582521]There is a couple of things I can confirm, I've paid a subscription so if anyone does have a number or other info they can PM me, also I know its her real name as she showed me her passport, and if I had a photo it's one of the first things I would have posted, also it was a Wednesday evening a pretty quiet night.

My Buddy has spoken to the female mamasan (who I also bought a couple of drinks) and she knows her, but doesn't have any contact details or know when or if she'll return. He was also could find one of the other working girls who knows her friend and said she can get information for me, that's my best lead to-date.

I'm 22 I not want to go with customer every night, I can make enough with drinks and only go with the customer who pays me, she told me how the whole system works with drinks and kick backs.

While this girl has really touch me (interesting choose of words) I'm not a Newbie, I've lived and worked in Asia for 25 yrs, had my fair share of being taken for a Mug Punter, and have had my heart broken and wallet emptied, all part of life experiences. Whether my chase comes to something or not I'll let whoever's interested know through these pages.[/QUOTE]Since you are as long in the tooth as I am, I will say it. Doh! If you find a gem in this pile of S*T, hold on to it; or at least get contact details. I always maximize my fun while being drained (and having my wallet emptied). Get Whatsapp or something to make it easier for them to contact you. I have the Philippine Smart buddy SIM so flippinas can text me for 1 peso.

Ask your buddy to have the lady manager ask the waitresses while he is there. He might find out where she was staying and get her contact info through that route. (That might lead down many roads that are best explored by another filipinna) If you really want to stalk her and you remember her passport number / name there are ways.

I guess you are looking for another punter who was astute enough to get Ivy's contact details and is willing to trade that for a couple man drinks.

FWIW, they can only make enough on drinks in they are a DH.

Good luck. I might actually head down this week if the Navy is in town and will keep an eye out.

[QUOTE=NOZ2215;1582715]I really dislike going back and forth over price, our conversation regarding price lasted less than 1 min.

who cares, I pay HK $3000 for a nice dinner and a good bottle of wine so what's the big deal

she 22 and is very very new, people grow up quickly in this line of business and I'm sure if she continues and I meet her in a year so, I'd find a very different attitude.[/QUOTE]FWIW, I have tipped more than that.

I have actually been in your position, several times.

It is a very personal and personalized service business.

Also, sometimes, out of the blue, a lady will come up and ask if I remember so and so. And if I would like to know how she is doing. That why it is sometimes advantageous / disadvantageous to know members of a hunting pack.

The funny thing is that Asia/the world is quite small. I have had only 1 degree of separation from people I met while the ladies show off their photo collection and brag about how nice a guy is.

[QUOTE=Boarer;1582778]FWIW, I have tipped more than that.

I have actually been in your position, several times.

It is a very personal and personalized service business.

Also, sometimes, out of the blue, a lady will come up and ask if I remember so and so. And if I would like to know how she is doing. That why it is sometimes advantageous / disadvantageous to know members of a hunting pack.

The funny thing is that Asia/the world is quite small. I have had only 1 degree of separation from people I met while the ladies show off their photo collection and brag about how nice a guy is.[/QUOTE]Boarer,

Thanks for the replies, I think you can sort of understand where I coming from, while I saw her passport, it was to show me when she'd been to HK etc, I didn't take a note of the number or such detail. I know where she stayed as she pointed it out to me, a couple of hundred metres from NEPIII there is an Indian Restaurant on the corner, many girls stay there, 4 to a room for HK $100 each a night.

Not trying to Stalk her, if I was able contacted her and she wasn't interested, end of story, I use WhatsApp, Viber and WeChat because I'm in China several times a year.

Maybe my next trip to HK I'll PM you and we can exchange war stories over a few cold one's.

Cheers

[QUOTE=NOZ2215;1582810]Boarer,

Thanks for the replies, I think you can sort of understand where I coming from, while I saw her passport, it was to show me when she'd been to HK etc, I didn't take a note of the number or such detail. I know where she stayed as she pointed it out to me, a couple of hundred metres from NEPIII there is an Indian Restaurant on the corner, many girls stay there, 4 to a room for HK $100 each a night.

Not trying to Stalk her, if I was able contacted her and she wasn't interested, end of story, I use WhatsApp, Viber and WeChat because I'm in China several times a year.

Maybe my next trip to HK I'll PM you and we can exchange war stories over a few cold one's.

Cheers[/QUOTE]I am not sure if this was established, but if she was carrying her passport and living in that boarding house, she is probably a tourist. Filipinos usually come for 14 days. Sometimes they can extend by exiting to China or Macao. While they used to be able to do extensions over and over, now they usually can only do it once or twice. So depending on when you met her she may have gone by now. And if a Filipina tourist is in the Wanchai bars there is a 90% probability she has come to HK to make money, though occasionally you meet one there for dancing and fun.

There is quite a good network of sharing information in their community. The prices they charge is what the market will bear. They have only 14 days, or 28 days to make their money, then go home. Only the most amazing hostess can make enough money on drinks alone. Unless you are truly ugly almost all will go with you for a reasonable offer. The going prices for Filipina tourists are HKD500-1500 short time, HKD1,000-3,000 long time. Locals get the lower rates. HKD500-1,500 short or long. Tourists, business men pay higher. And it is true capitalism, what the market will bear. Girls will almost always high ball in the hope that the shy guy will just accept, and many do accept. But they only have 14 days and don't want to lose a paying customer; most will accept HKD1,500 regardless. Some will decline HKD1,000.

The highest I have heard a punter pay is HKD7,000. They were a group of bankers visiting HK. "She was stunning, you would not belive, and amazing fuck, totally worth it". Right. Great for the girl. But even she I am sure had little respect for John. And I am quite confident the next guy got her for HKD2,000, and just as great a fuck.

Morals of the story:

- You don't get what you pay for. Price and quality are hardly correlated. Feel free to pay what you are comfortable paying. Just pick the girl with the look you like and the personality that pleases, then negotiate the deal you like. But remember, personality always wins in the end. Even in short time if she is not pleasing, no matter how beautiful she will be disappointing.

- Your paying over the odds does not really impact what she is going to charge the next guy. One silly banker is not going to move the market. Moreover, their prices for locals is going to stay much less. And personally, I doubt silly punters paying too much impacts the price for the next guy at all. It will always be supply and demand, big picture, and thanks to corruption there is lots of supply.

- if you like a girl, get her contact details. Ideally Whatapp, Viber, WeChat, Skype, not just a local number, which will change. Trying to find them a second time, especially after a few weeks, is difficult. And most love repeat customers, friends, possible BFs, maybe future husbands. It does happen, a lot. In fact, repeat customers often get a much lower price, even free if she thinks you have potential.

[QUOTE=BrownRail;1583283]I am not sure if this was established, but if she was carrying her passport and living in that boarding house, she is probably a tourist. Filipinos usually come for 14 days. Sometimes they can extend by exiting to China or Macao. While they used to be able to do extensions over and over, now they usually can only do it once or twice. So depending on when you met her she may have gone by now. And if a Filipina tourist is in the Wanchai bars there is a 90% probability she has come to HK to make money, though occasionally you meet one there for dancing and fun.

There is quite a good network of sharing information in their community. The prices they charge is what the market will bear. They have only 14 days, or 28 days to make their money, then go home. Only the most amazing hostess can make enough money on drinks alone. Unless you are truly ugly almost all will go with you for a reasonable offer. The going prices for Filipina tourists are HKD500-1500 short time, HKD1,000-3,000 long time. Locals get the lower rates. HKD500-1,500 short or long. Tourists, business men pay higher. And it is true capitalism, what the market will bear. Girls will almost always high ball in the hope that the shy guy will just accept, and many do accept...[/QUOTE]BrownRail,

You're 100% correct, her first visit to HK (late Mar) she had a 14 day visa, day 12 she went to Macau for 2 nights and then returned for another 14 days, then back home, she returned to HK in (late April) with another 14 day visa and again on day 12 went to Shenzhen for 1 night and returned with a new 14 day visa, I can only guess that she returned home when it expired.

She told me all this all in general conversation, also many things about her private life which is not important to write here but as previously stated I have no reason to doubt anything she said. She can make between HK $1000 HK $2000 per night from drinks (kick backs from NEPIII) and she will only go with customers for high price (whether that is true who cares) I know situations change very quickly and if she choose to stay in this game, who knows what her thinking will be in a few months. She did tell me of one regular customer who calls her and she goes to his hotel, she said he pays her big money (how much is big money I didn't ask. If someone asked how much I earned I'd tell them to mind their own business) she told me he starts trying control her so she stopped going to his hotel.

Up-Date on getting in contact with her, my friend has called into NEPIII a few times and several Girls and staff there say they all know of her, they all believe she has returned home but nothing firm, however one girl say's she can get in contact with her through a Facebook connection, similar friends, they are going to meet on Sunday as my friend said I think he will get more information in a relaxed place than been a detective in NEPIII, if its a dead end I might leave it there, wait until I'm in HK again and call into NEPIII on the chance she's back, or another punter reads my posts and PM's me her information.

Drink commissions 1000-2000 hr a night. Of course if you do your sums. The ladies get around 50 to 60 on a Margerita type drink and 80 to 90 on a Tango sype drink. So to make 1000 you need to have 15 -20 Marguerita's a night or around 10 Tango type drinks. I know the smart ladies tip the drinks out when the guys aren't looking. This is why you often see staff mopping the floor. But even taking into account the previous that's some serious drinking and even more if you make 2000 in drinks. And at bars like Nep 3 with a strong mamasan lots of the commission go back to the mamasan, especially Filipina's who are first or second time in Hong Kong. I've had acquantainces tell me they made 20,000 a day when the Navy was in town. That's right 20,000 - Take that as you will.

[QUOTE=Chantik;1583881]Drink commissions 1000-2000 hr a night. Of course if you do your sums. The ladies get around 50 to 60 on a Margerita type drink and 80 to 90 on a Tango sype drink. So to make 1000 you need to have 15 -20 Marguerita's a night or around 10 Tango type drinks. I know the smart ladies tip the drinks out when the guys aren't looking. This is why you often see staff mopping the floor. But even taking into account the previous that's some serious drinking and even more if you make 2000 in drinks. And at bars like Nep 3 with a strong mamasan lots of the commission go back to the mamasan, especially Filipina's who are first or second time in Hong Kong. I've had acquantainces tell me they made 20,000 a day when the Navy was in town. That's right 20,000 - Take that as you will.[/QUOTE]Chantik,

As I have said in an earlier post that my knowledge of they way things work in HK is far below yours, the information I was told (Yes, Pillow talk) was the girls at NEPIII mainly drink Tequila shots, price $HK150 and the girl gets a kick back of HK $100, these drinks are pre-poured and sit on the shelf behind the bar, they are heavy diluted, so its not uncommon for a good looking and sweet talking girl to have more than 10 shots / night.

[QUOTE=NOZ2215;1584296]Chantik,

As I have said in an earlier post that my knowledge of they way things work in HK is far below yours, the information I was told (Yes, Pillow talk) was the girls at NEPIII mainly drink Tequila shots, price $HK150 and the girl gets a kick back of HK $100, these drinks are pre-poured and sit on the shelf behind the bar, they are heavy diluted, so its not uncommon for a good looking and sweet talking girl to have more than 10 shots / night.[/QUOTE]I hope the ladies have booked themselves in for our liver transplant. Having 10+ drinks per night means you are on your way.

OMG! Went to NIII on Friday and every other girl was named Ivy or Honey!

Just kidding. LOL.

[QUOTE=NOZ2215;1583571]my friend has called into NEPIII[/QUOTE]Looks like you have all your bases covered and can only hope for the best.

[QUOTE=Chantik;1583881]That's right 20,000 - Take that as you will.[/QUOTE]Wow! I love that type of math where 1+1=11!

FWIW, my 2 fens. Based on my observations at several bars, very very very few girls can hit 10 drinks even on a busy night with a stranger. Those I saw who hit a lot of drinks were in a relationship with a punter (and his wallet) and need to start very early. Some of the ladies who know me well actually discourage me from buying them ladies drink and would rather take a small cash donation.

I heard of some punters pressuring ladies to refund drink monies if a lady refuses to go with them. Go figure.

Firstly thank you to Boarer / Chantik / Brownrail & Jackthelad2 for contributing to my first posts, while my sole intention was only to get in contact with Miss I, I also started the debate about haw much girls can earn through drinks, I think we are all correct from what we've been told or know first hand.

Anyway I would like to report I've been successful in contacting Miss I, My friend actually did all the work by visiting NEPIII several times, got a sympatric who was helpful in contacting her network and bingo, This girl is also a very sweet girl who I've also spoken too, once it was established that I wasn't chasing Ivy for the wrong reasons it seems the jungle drums started beating and all the inform I required was available.

Now for Miss I, I've been able to speak with her for several hours over the last 2 days, her intention was not to return to HK, (yes we've all heard that from girls before) she has enough money to start a little business venture and that is what she is concentrating on, I believe her when she said she doesn't like what she did and feels shame.

I'll keep on talking with her over the next few weeks and see if the chemistry is there. I know in several ways I'm breaking every rule in the book by trying to form some type of genuine relationship with this girl, but life works in funny ways.

Thanks again to everyone for coming on this ride with me, cheers and my life be good to all.

Is someone knows websites where to find compensated dates, from young and naughty girls, like university students or office ladies? Usually, compensated dates are fof Chinese people, but there maybe a couple of chicks targeting Western guys?

Go to [URL]seekingarrangement.com[/URL] - And there are variations of this site. Though this can be more high maintenance.

In regards to hotel walk-in gals, as far as I know, most will not agree to go to your hotel room during the day but if they do, it would be at triple the price listed on their DB plus round trip taxi fare. Similar terms for overnight which usually starts only after midnight. (Note, meaning that she'd been hard at work all day already, and you can figure out how tired she must already be by then!

I would discourage guys here from arranging for such arrangement as logic tells us that the girls who would agree to such would usually be the less desirable ones. Because otherwise why wud she want to do something which is so time and energy consuming.

I would also suggest strongly that you should at least first try her at her hotel at the regular price and if there is the right chemistry, to only then arrange for her to come over to your place. Also, please note that most of the girls' pictures on the DB are heavily photoshopped, plus bait and switch is a common tactic. Using good looking girls as bait (because they're usually not available / already has a booking) and substituting another less attractive girl to take up assignments.

Most girls listed on xxxwebsite. Both hotel walk-in as well as 141 walk-ups, caters to the local populace, and thus things are set up to accommodate local guys who do not prefer to have the girls come over / would rather do it in her premises.

This being so, requests for the girl to come over are not preferred by the operators / girls. And thus the high premium levied for such.

Just IMHO.

SEAJ

[QUOTE=NOZ2215;1585117]I'll keep on talking with her over the next few weeks and see if the chemistry is there. I know in several ways I'm breaking every rule in the book by trying to form some type of genuine relationship with this girl, but life works in funny ways.

Thanks again to everyone for coming on this ride with me, cheers and my life be good to all.[/QUOTE]Mate, good to hear that you were successful and that you posted an update. Thumbs up.

FWIW, airfare between HK and Philippines are cheap. Depending of the nearest airport to her, it is possible to do a day trip. (Think you mentioned Makati) In either case, simplest way is for you to make the trip and have her come to you at a nearby hotel. Easier for her to make a story about staying with a girlfriend. More complicated and more financially risky if you try to have her meet you in HK (assuming you are going to pay for the trip) Quite possible to talk the ladies into making those trips.

FWIW, happened to actually pass a wedding party between a western dude and a filipina woman a couple months back. (Not sure about your ethnicity and country of origin) So it does happen. Question is if it ends happily.

Cheers.

[QUOTE=HkMarquis;1585135]Is someone knows websites where to find compensated dates, from young and naughty girls, like university students or office ladies? Usually, compensated dates are fof Chinese people, but there maybe a couple of chicks targeting Western guys?[/QUOTE]Have you tried this:

[URL]https://www.whatsyourprice.com[/URL]

[QUOTE=Stykler;1585615]Have you tried this:

[URL]https://www.whatsyourprice.com[/URL][/QUOTE]I haven't tried, but I will have a look. I will tell you what I got from there!

[QUOTE=Chantik;1584393]I hope the ladies have booked themselves in for our liver transplant. Having 10+ drinks per night means you are on your way.[/QUOTE]Some girls order low alcohol or no-alcohol drinks.

[QUOTE=Boarer;1585374]Mate, good to hear that you were successful and that you posted an update. Thumbs up.

FWIW, airfare between HK and Philippines are cheap. Depending of the nearest airport to her, it is possible to do a day trip. (Think you mentioned Makati) In either case, simplest way is for you to make the trip and have her come to you at a nearby hotel. Easier for her to make a story about staying with a girlfriend. More complicated and more financially risky if you try to have her meet you in HK (assuming you are going to pay for the trip) Quite possible to talk the ladies into making those trips.

FWIW, happened to actually pass a wedding party between a western dude and a filipina woman a couple months back. (Not sure about your ethnicity and country of origin) So it does happen. Question is if it ends happily.

Cheers.[/QUOTE]Boarer,

Thanks again for the suggestions, as far as my ethnicity, I'm just a regular white guy LOL, I've lived in Asia on and off for the last 20+yrs (Singapore / Tokyo / Bangkok / KL) and visited most other major cities, I have a girl in China who I've kept for the last few years but it's a relationship of convenience, she's a nice girl and we have great sex, that's the total involvement.

I guess I'm looking for something a little more, (Yes, I can hear the laugher again) This 22 yr old was great company, she was so inquisitive about the world and she asked very intelligent questions, it was a dialogue well beyond her years.

Anyway we'll continue commutating and see of the attraction is still there, in a few weeks I'll make the trip across to see her and if the sparks still fly I'll decide what to do after that.

Once again thanks for your contribution.

Cheers

[QUOTE=NOZ2215;1585117]Firstly thank you to Boarer / Chantik / Brownrail & Jackthelad2 for contributing to my first posts, while my sole intention was only to get in contact with Miss I, I also started the debate about haw much girls can earn through drinks, I think we are all correct from what we've been told or know first hand.

Anyway I would like to report I've been successful in contacting Miss I, My friend actually did all the work by visiting NEPIII several times, got a sympatric who was helpful in contacting her network and bingo, This girl is also a very sweet girl who I've also spoken too, once it was established that I wasn't chasing Ivy for the wrong reasons it seems the jungle drums started beating and all the inform I required was available.

Now for Miss I, I've been able to speak with her for several hours over the last 2 days, her intention was not to return to HK, (yes we've all heard that from girls before) she has enough money to start a little business venture and that is what she is concentrating on, I believe her when she said she doesn't like what she did and feels shame...[/QUOTE]Couple of thoughts:

1) I hope her venture is not a farm; these hardly ever work out. And be careful about funding it, they often fail. If you start funding her venture it is likely to be a black hole for you. Better to let her fail early on her own. Then take an informed look at her other options.

2) As for Miss I, go for it! I don't think you are breaking rules really. Miss I sounds like a normal Filipina on a "working" holiday, not a bar girl. (I think normal SE Asian women have a different, healthier, take on sex than western women anyway, but this is for another post) I can't tell you the number of women I have known in HK / Philippines / Indonesia who met their future husband in Wanchai, Badoo, etc. , built their relationship on skype and then married. Some of my best (girl) friends here have married guys from the US, Australia, NZ, and UK. It does happen and, at the risk of sounding naive, they make great mates!

Hey Brothers,

I am in need of a short term hotel in Western, like Sheungwan or Kennedy town. My good friend has a bit of time free in the afternoons, but she cannot travel all the way to Wanchai, CWB, and back in time. I would like to see her more often then the odd Sunday.

Anyone got a good one?

[QUOTE=Chantik;1584393]I hope the ladies have booked themselves in for our liver transplant. Having 10+ drinks per night means you are on your way.[/QUOTE]A friend of mine is a bar girl and I had a sip of a supposedly alcoholic cocktail one night. She offered it to me to show me. There was virtually no alcohol in it at all, hence she won't get drunk LOL.

I didn't mind, she is a friend of mine and needed stay there for an hour or so, I bought her a couple of drinks before she left with me. I know the bar gets a cut, she gets a few dollars, all fine by me.

So, this is how some bypass liver failure LOL.

May vary by bar tho. This was Boracay.

(and no, I don't pay for her company).

[QUOTE=BrownRail;1586059]Couple of thoughts:

1) I hope her venture is not a farm; these hardly ever work out. And be careful about funding it, they often fail. If you start funding her venture it is likely to be a black hole for you. Better to let her fail early on her own. Then take an informed look at her other options.

2) As for Miss I, go for it! I don't think you are breaking rules really. Miss I sounds like a normal Filipina on a "working" holiday, not a bar girl. (I think normal SE Asian women have a different, healthier, take on sex than western women anyway, but this is for another post) I can't tell you the number of women I have known in HK / Philippines / Indonesia who met their future husband in Wanchai, Badoo, etc. , built their relationship on skype and then married. Some of my best (girl) friends here have married guys from the US, Australia, NZ, and UK. It does happen and, at the risk of sounding naive, they make great mates![/QUOTE]Brown Rail,

Her business venture is not a farm, while she was in Hong Kong she did her homework and sourced a few products from suppliers in China, and want to set-up a wholesale distribution business, she a smart girl, young but really has her heart in the right place, at this time I'm only offering her business advice not $$.

As for your notes in point 2, looks like there is hope for me yet ha ha ha.

Cheers

[QUOTE=TimTims;1582017]I went to Swatow Street and couldn't find your massage place. Only a Thai MP on the first floor where after entering they threw me out. See my FR on the other HK thread. Was it the Thai place or somewhere else? Any other MP intel?

TT[/QUOTE]Strange, there is only one MP in Swatow street.

When entering they ask you what kind of massage you like and you enter a small room with a massage table.

After the massage the girl will ask you if you would like to have some extra services.

The first day I received a BBBJ and the second day she climbed on top of me for FS.

[QUOTE=LongLunches;1586510]A friend of mine is a bar girl and I had a sip of a supposedly alcoholic cocktail one night. She offered it to me to show me. There was virtually no alcohol in it at all, hence she won't get drunk LOL.

I didn't mind, she is a friend of mine and needed stay there for an hour or so, I bought her a couple of drinks before she left with me. I know the bar gets a cut, she gets a few dollars, all fine by me.

So, this is how some bypass liver failure LOL.

May vary by bar tho. This was Boracay.

(and no, I don't pay for her company).[/QUOTE]The strength of the alcohol is special ladies drinks, varies from bar to bar. But even if watered down a bit if you drinking 1000 or 2000 worth a night it does have an effect. And not all Asian ladies can hold their drinks. And not all ladies have the special ladies drinks.

[QUOTE=NOZ2215;1585976]I have a girl in China who I've kept for the last few years but it's a relationship of convenience, she's a nice girl and we have great sex, that's the total involvement[/QUOTE]Oh you double timing SOB. LOL.

[QUOTE=NOZ2215;1586619]at this time I'm only offering her business advice not $$.

As for your notes in point 2, looks like there is hope for me yet ha ha ha.[/QUOTE]The news is not good. It is a terminal case. If the big head and the little head are both having a bad case of loving, you are skunked. If you end up tying the noose around your neck, sorry, I meant finger, don't forget to send me an invite.

FWIW, like the Michael Caine character in "Last Love", I know of several punters who have taken the plunge, found happiness, and have rewarded the ladies extravegantly. The problems usually crop up when the money well runs dry.

There are ways to check out a lady beforehand (check the Philippines forum), but I think that takes away from the magic and excitement of the ride. Sometimes it is better to suspect than to have it confirmed.

Best of luck. Cheers.

PS. Wanchai has been rocking these past few days because of the football and Escape's talents and crowds have really picked up. Not sure if this going to continue.

[QUOTE=Chantik;1586765]The strength of the alcohol is special ladies drinks, varies from bar to bar. But even if watered down a bit if you drinking 1000 or 2000 worth a night it does have an effect. And not all Asian ladies can hold their drinks. And not all ladies have the special ladies drinks.[/QUOTE]I would defer to your expertise. Congrats on being a moderator on the other forum.

[QUOTE=Dooper;1585856]Some girls order low alcohol or no-alcohol drinks.[/QUOTE]Hmmm. What drinks might those be?

[QUOTE=Boarer;1587854]Oh you double timing SOB. LOL.

The news is not good. It is a terminal case. If the big head and the little head are both having a bad case of loving, you are skunked. If you end up tying the noose around your neck, sorry, I meant finger, don't forget to send me an invite.

FWIW, like the Michael Caine character in "Last Love", I know of several punters who have taken the plunge, found happiness, and have rewarded the ladies extravegantly. The problems usually crop up when the money well runs dry...[/QUOTE]Actually I have just informed my China Doll that her free ride is coming to an end, not because of my new love (ha ha ha) but it was going nowhere, I told her she needs to find a new man, She was a little shocked but she knew things wouldn't last between us.

Regarding Miss I, I think your right trying to double check everything she has said would "take away from the magic and excitement of the ride" My mother always said "you don't need a good memory if you tell the truth" If she's feeding me a load of crap, I'm sure she'll come unstuck pretty quickly, as of now she has been very forth coming in anything I've asked, and I've asked some difficult and personal questions of her, but only time will tell.

Regarding money she hasn't asked for anything (Yet) without going into all of my long passed, I will relate one story, I once (and there has been a few) helped a girl in Singapore, she was a waitress (very cute, I may add) at a small Thai restaurant near my apartment, I would dine there a least 2 days a week and built up a really great friendship with her, her boss was a drunk and one day she dropped a plate of food, and he hit her right in the middle of the restaurant in front of 15 20 customers, I beat him up fairly badly, and ended up being thrown in Jail (which was not a great experience even if it was only for 48 hrs) My good deed become a problem of me supporting this girl for quiet sometime, anyway after about a 18 mths I find out she was actually married, I've been burnt a few times, and while putting up a few extra barriers I don't want to become an untrusting prick. Just me, I think a lot of readers / subscribers on this site will think I'm crazy, maybe there right but for the most part I'm pretty happy with my craziness. I'll that's enough of "This is your Life" ha ha.

After a long time not being to Escape last Thursday I did pay it a visit. Beer prices have gone up to 75 HKD for a bottle and lots of Columbian girls on duty. Spoke to a 7/10 approx 30 year girl by the name of Catherina and after the usual small talk she asked about my plans for tonight and made the crazy initial offer for long time for 10000 HKD! Go figure, I just walked off laughing my head off. Did finally score with a nice Filipina at Hong Kong Cafe for a fraction of the price of the Columbian girl and got a very GFE service too.

After a busy day thought I would watch a bit of World Cup Soccer last night to watch Brazil and Chile. Dropped into Amazonia which was packed with guys and never seen so many western woman in this bar and so few working ladies. Too crowded so after one drink, went to HK Cafe which was the opposite. Crowd was on the smaller side but lots of working ladies and few guys. And Bar 109 charged $250 entry fee to watch the soccer and if course Delaney's was full.

I was in HK for five days and stayed in the Wanchai area couple of weeks ago.

Visited, Escape, new Makati, HK Cafe and Neptune 2.

Escape and Neptune were very hardcore especially regarding with the drinks, the waitresses constantly pushing for buying drinks and the minute you start talking with a girl they want you to buy a drink, very annoying. Talked to a Colombian that was not allowed to get in Escape unless she was invited by a male so I did so, after talking a while with her she said that she owes about 8000 us dollars to the persons that arranged her visa and flight and that she has been in HK for a week, if she doesn't pay she said these guys can hurt their families, no wonder colombians are very business like in hk. She said that now are so many Colombians that the bar owner of escape only allows in girls that they know to avoid problems with the HK police. I ask her how much to go out ans she said 2000 hk dollars I said and never pay more than 200 us dollars, she said that colombians charge 3000 hk but I said if a go you need to go also per the bar rules as she came with me and I said I offer 200 us. She said Ok but only 1 hour so I said don't like pressure so I left, in addition my own rule is Colombians only in Colombia.

Went then to new Makati but it was very loud, then went to HK cafe which I found to be the best as it had good variety of girls and less pressure for drinks, I met a pretty Indonesian girl (which IMHO are the colombians of Asia) and also initially ask for 2000 HK, I offered 1500 and she want for ST but very nice GFE. Next day I found her again and I offered $1000 HK and she accepted.

One night in Escape I took a Filipino girl for 1000 H K but big mistake as she was ugly once she took off her clothes. Another night didn't take anyone but was doing research and most of the girls start with 2000 HK and depending the night you could negotiate the price down up to 1500, I was offered by a Indonesian girl all night for 1500.

Also, I spoke with a beautiful Kenyan girl and asked her why she is outside Escape and not inside and she saud that escape won't allow African woman inside because a security issue they had in the past with an african woman, she also asked for 2000 HK but by definition will never go with an African girl if you take into consideration 50% of Africa has aids.

The worst day to be in Wanchai is Friday as there are more man tha woman, the second worst is Saturday, the best day for semi professionals Sunday afternoon and in general the best days for professionals are Monday and Tuesday.

Also asked one day for an outcall massage to my hotel and the cost with a HJ that included french kissing was 700 HK.

In general HK Wanchai is fun but expensive, if you want Colombians go to Colombia, if you want Filipinas go to Philippines, if you want Indonesian go to Indonesia, but if you are already there it could be expensive but fun, BTW watching the world cup games there was fun.

[QUOTE=Calvito;1588390]
after talking a while with her she said that she owes about 8000 us dollars to the persons that arranged her visa and flight and that she has been in HK for a week, if she doesn't pay she said these guys can hurt their families, no wonder colombians are very business like in hk.

Also, I spoke with a beautiful Kenyan girl and asked her why she is outside Escape and not inside and she saud that escape won't allow African woman inside because a security issue they had in the past with an african woman, she also asked for 2000 HK but by definition will never go with an African girl if you take into consideration 50% of Africa has aids.

In general HK Wanchai is fun but expensive, if you want Colombians go to Colombia, if you want Filipinas go to Philippines, if you want Indonesian go to Indonesia, but if you are already there it could be expensive but fun, BTW watching the world cup games there was fun.[/QUOTE]I hear that sort of story a lot. I always sympathize, but always wonder if it is designed to make you pay more LOL.

Not too many African girls about, was this her?

Glad you had fun and thanks for the report.

[QUOTE=LongLunches;1588447]I hear that sort of story a lot. I always sympathize, but always wonder if it is designed to make you pay more LOL.

Not too many African girls about, was this her?

Glad you had fun and thanks for the report.[/QUOTE]Not that girl, however I did see her on the street, the girl I talked I very pretty girl from Kenya. I still be.

I've if in Asia go with Asians.

[QUOTE=Calvito;1588390]I was in HK for five days and stayed in the Wanchai area couple of weeks ago...

Also, I spoke with a beautiful Kenyan girl and asked her why she is outside Escape and not inside and she said that Escape won't allow African woman inside because a security issue they had in the past with an African woman, she also asked for 2000 HK but by definition will never go with an African girl if you take into consideration 50% of Africa has aids.[/QUOTE]50%? Seems a little harsh, don't you think?

I've mongered in Africa several times and never got sick, thanks to using condoms and being careful. You're welcome to decide to not have sex with any African women, but please don't throw around a false statistic.

[QUOTE=Calvito;1588390]I was in HK for five days and stayed in the Wanchai area couple of weeks ago.

Visited, Escape, new Makati, HK Cafe and Neptune 2.

Escape and Neptune were very hardcore especially regarding with the drinks, the waitresses constantly pushing for buying drinks and the minute you start talking with a girl they want you to buy a drink, very annoying. Talked to a Colombian that was not allowed to get in Escape unless she was invited by a male so I did so, after talking a while with her she said that she owes about 8000 us dollars to the persons that arranged her visa and flight and that she has been in HK for a week, if she doesn't pay she said these guys can hurt their families, no wonder colombians are very business like in hk. She said that now are so many Colombians that the bar owner of escape only allows in girls that they know to avoid problems with the HK police. I ask her how much to go out ans she said 2000 hk dollars I said and never pay more than 200 us dollars, she said that colombians charge 3000 hk but I said if a go you need to go also per the bar rules as she came with me and I said I offer 200 us. She said Ok but only 1 hour so I said don't like pressure so I left, in addition my own rule is Colombians only in Colombia.

Went then to new Makati but it was very loud, then went to HK cafe which I found to be the best as it had good variety of girls and less pressure for drinks, I met a pretty Indonesian girl (which IMHO are the colombians of Asia) and also initially ask for 2000 HK, I offered 1500 and she want for ST but very nice GFE. Next day I found her again and I offered $1000 HK and she accepted.

One night in Escape I took a Filipino girl for 1000 H K but big mistake as she was ugly once she took off her clothes. Another night didn't take anyone but was doing research and most of the girls start with 2000 HK and depending the night you could negotiate the price down up to 1500, I was offered by a Indonesian girl all night for 1500.

Also, I spoke with a beautiful Kenyan girl and asked her why she is outside Escape and not inside and she saud that escape won't allow African woman inside because a security issue they had in the past with an african woman, she also asked for 2000 HK but by definition [B]will never go with an African girl if you take into consideration 50% of Africa has aids.[/B]

The worst day to be in Wanchai is Friday as there are more man tha woman, the second worst is Saturday, the best day for semi professionals Sunday afternoon and in general the best days for professionals are Monday and Tuesday.

Also asked one day for an outcall massage to my hotel and the cost with a HJ that included french kissing was 700 HK.

In general HK Wanchai is fun but expensive, if you want Colombians go to Colombia, if you want Filipinas go to Philippines, if you want Indonesian go to Indonesia, but if you are already there it could be expensive but fun, BTW watching the world cup games there was fun.[/QUOTE]I agree with Mighty Spearsman. No need to make a untrue comment and insult an entire continent!

[QUOTE=Calvito;1588390]Also, I spoke with a beautiful Kenyan girl and asked her why she is outside Escape and not inside and she saud that escape won't allow African woman inside because a security issue they had in the past with an african woman, she also asked for 2000 HK but by definition will never go with an African girl if you take into consideration 50% of Africa has aids.

In general HK Wanchai is fun but expensive, if you want Colombians go to Colombia, if you want Filipinas go to Philippines, if you want Indonesian go to Indonesia, but if you are already there it could be expensive but fun, BTW watching the world cup games there was fun.[/QUOTE]"With only 5 per cent of the world's population, Eastern and Southern Africa is home to half the world's population living with HIV. Today the region continues to be the epicentre of the HIV / AIDS epidemic, with 48 per cent of the world's new HIV infections among adults, 55 per cent among children, and 48 per cent of AIDS-related deaths."

Dear friends,

Aptly said by senior BionicMan 'Newbies' and further linked by him, on the reports of Distinction, for a newbie like me, the reports were a gold mine! So thanks to that BMan!

Further the breakdown of various options available in HK listed by SEAsiaJoe, thanks there again mate! Excellent or rather should I say Sexcellent. LOL.

RamanHk's point on 141 vs Wan Chai, and also FlyBoy2000 guide on K pressure (not that I admit but let me be honest I do qualify for the dummies guide to K Pressure) LOL.

And a lot of other posts.

To my justification am just excited as these lovely posts have opened a new possibility of mongering for me! Sorry no offense to anybody! Just sharing my excitement!

My trip is going to be somewhere towards the 2nd week of Sep, whilst I am keen on hitting K Pressure, if any one has any suggestions please let me know.

Thank you guys once again!

Regards,

FunkySexy

I don't understand Calvito's post. Colombians only in Columbia. Africans is Africa. Seems very reasonable if you are in HK (Asia) - But why would you go through the process of talking / discussing prices with Colombians / Africans if you have no interest in this group. Maybe I misread the post but it makes no sense.

[QUOTE=Chantik;1588724]I don't understand Calvito's post. Colombians only in Columbia. Africans is Africa. Seems very reasonable if you are in HK (Asia) - But why would you go through the process of talking / discussing prices with Colombians / Africans if you have no interest in this group. Maybe I misread the post but it makes no sense.[/QUOTE]Because I have been with Colombians in Colombia, and their service, price in attitude in Colombia is soo much better than outside Colombia, besides Colombians in HK are being exploited they shouldn't be there.

This is just my opinion after mongering in several places in the world including Colombia, it's not a fact just my opinion, other mongers may think differently and it's ok.

[QUOTE=Boarer;1588596]"With only 5 per cent of the world's population, Eastern and Southern Africa is home to half the world's population living with HIV. Today the region continues to be the epicentre of the HIV / AIDS epidemic, with 48 per cent of the world's new HIV infections among adults, 55 per cent among children, and 48 per cent of AIDS-related deaths."[/QUOTE]I'm not insulting Africa but it is a fact that they have the highest incidents of Aids, again for me is no no to get involve with an African woman, but this doesn't mean that the rest of the mongers should not get involved, everyone has different parameters and risks limits, for example there are mongers that still are willing to do vaginal sex without condoms, for me this is an insane not worth it risk, but each with its own limits and risks.

[QUOTE=Boarer;1588596]"With only 5 per cent of the world's population, Eastern and Southern Africa is home to half the world's population living with HIV. Today the region continues to be the epicentre of the HIV / AIDS epidemic, with 48 per cent of the world's new HIV infections among adults, 55 per cent among children, and 48 per cent of AIDS-related deaths."[/QUOTE]It's obvious but worth pointing out that Boarer's post that "Africa is home to half the world's population living with HIV' (not AIDS, and there is a difference) is quite a bit different than Calvito's comment that "50% of Africa has AIDS".

According to the WHO web site, the number of people in the world who are HIV+ is around 35.3 million. While "half the world's population living with HIV" is not an insignificant number, it's actually a relatively low percentage of the total population of Africa (close to 1 billion), less than 3% of the total population, not 50%.

And one of the remarkable stories about HIV / AIDS during the last 30 years is that it has not become as widespread as the cynics predicted it would be.

Again, you don't have to monger with an African girl in Hong Kong, that's your choice and your right. But please don't reject her on the grounds that she has AIDS, because you may be wrong.

[QUOTE=MightySpearsman;1588942]Again, you don't have to monger with an African girl in Hong Kong, that's your choice and your right. But please don't reject her on the grounds that she has AIDS, because you may be wrong.[/QUOTE]Although if she's from Swaziland you really really might want to think twice.

[QUOTE=HkMarquis;1585135]Is someone knows websites where to find compensated dates, from young and naughty girls, like university students or office ladies? Usually, compensated dates are fof Chinese people, but there maybe a couple of chicks targeting Western guys?[/QUOTE]Yes there is a lot of this type of stuff on local chat sites but you need to type / read Chinese.

[QUOTE=BrownRail;1586062]Hey Brothers,

I am in need of a short term hotel in Western, like Sheungwan or Kennedy town. My good friend has a bit of time free in the afternoons, but she cannot travel all the way to Wanchai, CWB, and back in time. I would like to see her more often then the odd Sunday.

Anyone got a good one?[/QUOTE]Mingle Place Eden, 148 Wellington Street Sheung Wan. Nice, convenient, cheap.

[QUOTE=MightySpearsman;1588531]50%? Seems a little harsh, don't you think?

I've mongered in Africa several times and never got sick, thanks to using condoms and being careful. You're welcome to decide to not have sex with any African women, but please don't throw around a false statistic.[/QUOTE]50% is indeed an exaggeration but there are countries in Africa where 25% of the adult population is HIV+. I am not telling people what they should or shouldn't do but people should make informed decisions.

[QUOTE=MightySpearsman;1588942] it's actually a relatively low percentage of the total population of Africa (close to 1 billion), less than 3% of the total population, not 50%.
Again, you don't have to monger with an African girl in Hong Kong, that's your choice and your right. But please don't reject her on the grounds that she has AIDS, because you may be wrong.[/QUOTE]"The Southern Africa sub-region, in particular, experiences the most severe HIV epidemics in the world. Nine countries. Botswana, Lesotho, Malawi, Mozambique, Namibia, South Africa, Swaziland, Zambia and Zimbabwe. Have adult HIV prevalence rates of over 10 per cent. At an estimated 26.0 per cent, Swaziland has the highest HIV prevalence rate in the world, followed by Botswana (23.4 per cent) and Lesotho (23.3 per cent). With 5. 6 million people living with HIV (17.3 per cent), South Africa is home to the world's largest epidemic. ".

After reading this forum I plan two venues to visit in Hong Kong: 37 Dundas and The Fuji-Building.

First I go to 37 Dundas, which is actually just a street address in the Kowloon area. I don't know what the name is. It's a few blocks from the metro station Yau Ma Tei. I arrive at 2 pm and they are busy! Wait 15 minutes, the receptionist tells me. After one hour of waiting and watching tv I think to myself: this is of no use. And so I leave. Pretty disappointing. Is this a KTV-place? Seems so, but reading the reports here I get the impression that you can bed a woman here without too much singing.

I take the metro down to Hong Kong Island, Causeway Bay Station, and walk a few blocks to the Fuji Building at Lockhart Road. Easy to find the entrance. Inside it's just to enter the elevator and choose a floor. But what shall I choose? An elder gentlemen goes to the 6th floor. So I do the same! He knows that the 6th is a good floor, I think to myself. Arriving at the sixth he quickly enters an apartment, and stays there. Yes, he has insider information! I ring the bell at the next door. Maybe I will be lucky at the first try. And yes, I am! A pretty girl with large natural boobs open the door. She holds five fingers up and I enter.

The only word she knows in English is "ok", and the only word I know in Chinese is "nihao", so there you have our conversation! First we shower, she washes me, the usual procedure. In fact everything here follows the usual procedure, nothing less, nothing more. Typical of this kind of ST-place. We lie down on the bed, CBJ, cfs. She's really nice. Both face and body is beautiful so it's a nice experience, even though it's pretty standard. She doesn't do much more than some moaning.

We shower again, I dress, and give her the small present of 500 (condoms included) and leave. Will I return? Yes, if I am in Hong Kong again.

While I am waiting for the elevator a guy rings the bell at "my place", the girl comes out and says something and he goes away, one minute later this is repeated with another guy. Probably she wants to rest a while before the next go. Anyway this shows how busy this building is. Is it something like 15 flooors with 5 apartments in each floor?