Chiang Mai

A bit more to add on about the karaoke scene in Chiang Mai. I will say again that the girls at the K clubs are a whole different class from the girls at the bar beers and even from the MP's. Class of looks that is.

One area to investigate by Tuk Tuk is called "Chiang Mai Land." it's not walking distance from the Night Bazaar, but is only a relatively short t-t ride (5 minutes). About 15 clubs within walking distance of each other plus a coupl eo fdiscos, if that is your taste.

A note on K-CLubs. Some have a small hotel attached (e.g., Ten); for the others, the girl can recommend a cheap short-time spot, if you don't want to bring bnack to your room.

Note also that at some cluns (Ten) some girls do O-T, other don't. The mama will tell you. At some CLUBS the girls don't do O-T. The ones I ahve recommended here do, but check with the Mama before you get too excited about someone who won't go out.

Good luck.

Dear Jing Jung
how is spain. where are you and wha t are you finding

Spain was really cool actually. i was only in Madrid, but the fresh, clean air reminded me of New England. A very refreshing change from the Thai weather.

I used the forum while in Madrid to check up on local action. VERY useful and relieved me (so to speak) after days of viewing museums and other cultural sites.

On the advice of forum members there, I visited a club called Flower Park -- a bar attached to a hotel (kind of an upscale Soi 7 Beer Garden with a hotel attached). Girls were all free-lancers but also attached to the establishment, paying a per day fee to the manager.

What made the place so cool was that there were girls from about 12 different countries (Spain, Barzil, Columbia, Venezuela, Italy, Rumania, Russia (but beauties, not like the ones here in Thailand), Hungary, Lebanon, Czech etc.). Price varied but generally about 3,000 baht for 30 minutes.

Girls were real lookers, excelletn quality. Quite a buffet, very tough to choose. I went several times.

After 12 years here (during which time I have not been with a Western woman), it was quite a change! Larger bodies, different scents, different experience. Made me want to stay on longer, though as soon as I got back home (here), that faded fast.

Apologies to all that this is off-topic. My excuse is only to reinforce tha value of the forum to locals who travel elsewhere!

Jing Jung

Jing Jung,

I'm finally coming back to Chiang Mai in January. Only this time it's just me and my Thai driver/friend, doing a road trip all over Thailand. I'm coming back to find that girl and her sister for a two on one blast if I can.

Let me ask you a question, see if this rings a bell? The karaoke place I was in had a glass door entry into the middle of the bar. When you came through the outside door you were inside the entryway, and still outside the bar, but it's all glass so you can see the whole bar on both sides from this entryway? Does this sound like any of the places you've been? If so let me know a name and I'll be back there in january.

Thanks.

Laothati:

Sounds like Ten, but it has been remodeled and there are many such places such as you describe (quite generally).

JJ

Was recently in Changmai.
Unfortunately, I really did not do it quite as well as I might have hoped, but still had a good time. The first places I tried were the Karaokes next to Changmai Plaza hotel. Don't bother. I did, and wouldn't again. Not that i had a bad time, but the looks weren't up to snuff. I really didn't know where else to go at that point., unfortunately. The next night, we told the taxi driver to take us to a lady bar. He yapped something back, and off we go. Next thing I know, we are in some dark alley, and I start mentally putting my things in order, if you know what I mean. I then ask where the hell are we, and he say's "I take you to lady HOUSE." Apparently he thought the bar seen was a bit to unclean for a lad like myself, and decided to take me to an amateur establishment, where the girls work for a week or a night to make some extra baht. There was a lineup of about 15 girls, 6-8 in looks. Not a lick of English spoken. Still, a fun time. The last night was spent at the lady bar--Lisa'sBar, or Leslie's bar. My bud pulled out a girl the looked like Tia Carrerra in her prime. I'd say go to the beer bars myself, but others swear by the Karaokes. I must have been at the worst ones.

Still, all in all, plenty of action in Changmai.

Thanks for the report, ungman. I'm curious on two counts -- first, can you give a bit more on your karaoke experiences? Some description of the experience, perhaps, from a non-Thai speaking perspective? I went past those places for more than a month and never went in, and I've regretted that somewhat, especially since reading Jing Jug's posts. In the one Chiang Mai Karaoke I did go some of the TGs spoke a small bit of Japanese, but no English, and I was decidedly out of place, not having knowledge of the rules and process.

Second, do you have any idea where the driver ended up taking you? Even the general area of town?

I only walked into two karaokes. In one (I think it was called Luna) we were taken into a room to view a lineup. On one day, the manager there spoke flawless English, so the only probelm we had was the big cloud of ugly hanging over the girls. In the other joint, next door to the first, the manager spoke English like I speak Thai (not at all0 and didn't get the lineup concept. He just brought me a girl, and because of the language barrier, it wound up[ being a take it or leave it kind of thing. I took it--or rather, she did. I think 2000 B (expensive) .

I have not the vaguest idea where the driver took me, but I think if you ask for "Lady House" instead of 'Lady Bar" you might find the same kind of joint. It was fun.

I might add that the joiner fee to bring a girl to my hotel (Chang Mai Plaza) was 400 B.

All I know is, there were a lot of hot girls at the beer bars we went to.

Hmm, very different from the place I went to, which was a Karaoke on the other side of the Chiang Mai President from the New Nancy massage place. It's actually a Karaoke that's in the attached hotel bar, so it has a rather different sensibility than the ones near the river, which are self-contained.

As far as quality -- Jing Jung mentions that the prettiest girls are taken out early. What time did you go in? I certainly saw some very attractive women as touts on the outside of the clubs you mention. My apartment brought me right past them every day, and I had a fairly good chance to see them in decent light. (Of course -- that was last year, so could be a whole new lineup!)

Luna and many of the Karaoke joints are as noted disappointing. The place across the street from the President Hotel is called Sinyu. Downstairs is a dance club, of sorts. Upstairs -- 4th or 5th floor -- is a no bra karaoke. The quality of the girls vary, but the place has been around for ages and is decent.

I still say that the best quality is at 10 karaoke. I personally don't waste my time at most of the other palces. At 10, the mamasans (some anyway) can deal with English speakers and will give good service, i.e., same price for all, no bullshit, very trustworthy.

After Ten Karaoke, I would say the next best place to try is Sayuri. The girls in the MP are generally the best in CM and they also have a Karaoke selection.

For those who ahve the patience, the hottest girls -- tons of them -- are at the various discos and dance clubs throughout the city. i can give some info but only limited since I don't like smoke, noise and lots of people. I also have only had limited success in these places.

Joe Zop,

Thanks for your info. I will test that price next time I am in CM. Are there other gogo bars there on the level of " Spotlight " ? My friends there took me to an upstair gogo ( 2 or 3 flights up ) that were mostly locals customers. Don't remember the name of the place, but did not like the setting or the girls as much. How about their Karaoke bars ?? Could it be fun for someone who can't speak thai but could bring my thai friends there to help translate/party ?? I agree that we should discuss this in the CM section. so I am going to post this same message there as well. Please reply in the CM section.

Thanks again for some very specific and useful info.

Tough Love, I suggest you spend a bit of time reading this section, as there's some very good info on Karaoke places, etc. I would presume you'd have a much better time in Karaokes with locals who speak the language -- with my pidgin Thai I found it difficult, as few of the TGs handled English much at all. A friend I have in CM who is fluent in Thai (and more well off than I am) said he enjoyed the Karaokes a great deal when he was on the prowl.

Spotlight is pretty much the best of the gogos in Chiang Mai, as options in that regard are fairly limited. If you're a gogo person, Bangkok, Pattaya, or Phuket are much better bets than Chiang Mai.

I'm curious about the other place you mention, up a couple of flights, as I've a feeling I might have missed it (though it might be the place attached to Sayuri, which I've never ventured into, as I've never made it past the fishbowl, LOL.) Any idea where in the city it's located?

Joe Zop,

Can't tell which part of town that upstairs gogo was. I was being driven around by some locals. I don't think ou have missed anything because I did not find that place to be on par with Spotlight anyway. I will try the K-bar scene next time in CM. I did the K-bar scene in both HK ( very expensive but the girls are in the 9's and 10's ) and Dongguan ( China, near Shenzen, girls are 6's and 7's, but 75% cheaper than HK ) and found it very entertaining if you can communicate with the girls. It's really an ultimate GFE if that's what you are looking for.

Sayuri MP review

I tried sayuri MP yesterday. There were about 20 girls in the fishbowl but the girls come and go very quickly. So if you are looking for the best ones make a quick decision. I think overall they have about 40 girls. I went there about 7pm and i think thats a good time because if you come later it gets crowded. At first the young motherfucker papasan tried to quote me 1900 THB. I told him that my friend came here 2 days ago and only paid 800THB. Than he told me 900THB which was o.k. for me. I took a 25 year old with a great face but the body was average(No.65). First she washed me all over in the bathtub and then we proceed to the bed for some action. the rooms are quite nice and over the bed is a big mirror and you can see the action from above. BBBJ,DATY and hard FS on the menu. She was very clean but had an unshaven pussy (which is o.k. for me.i like them hairy). Overall it was a good experience and i can recommend it to everybody.

But do not go there with tuk tuk unless you want to pay the 500THB comission they get. Even if you stop at the corner and walk about 5 min the fucker wait for you in front of the MP. He thought i did not see him but i did. Rent a motorbike and go on your own. Have fun with these LBFMs.

Good going Kuranyi. I lived in Chiamg Mai and know the managers and staff very well. The actual local price is 700 THB but getting close to that is good. The service you get from the girls is memorable. Place runs like a train station so girls in and out. Tried the rooms with 2-3 girls at times. Let the manager pick the girls and he was right on point. They were all freaks. Makes you want to follow them home.