What happened to Julia. Is she just taking a break or did she play sick because she doesn't want so many guys touching her?
Or get kicked out because of poor service?
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What happened to Julia. Is she just taking a break or did she play sick because she doesn't want so many guys touching her?
Or get kicked out because of poor service?
[QUOTE=Zoman69; 1393875]What happened to Julia. Is she just taking a break or did she play sick because she doesn't want so many guys touching her?
Or get kicked out because of poor service?[/QUOTE]I hope the latter, her looks are great, but performance was poor last time. On the side it says "sick", could be for coming Thursday, but seems strange to know this already for March 21st (or she is "sick for the next 9 months"?).
Anybody knows Amelie? Young, old, looks, service?
What means DS-Couples? (Daily Swingers?)
Ok, let's wait and see until they have good mix of old and young AND good service in one party again.
[QUOTE=Zoman69;1393875]What happened to Julia.[/QUOTE]You tell me, man. I only write here.
[QUOTE=Maxime; 1394063]Anybody knows Amelie? Young, old, looks, service?
What means DS-Couples? (Daily Swingers?) [/QUOTE]You tell me, man. (About DS couples) I only write here.
I know Amelie. Mid 30s, slim, black hair. She's the one on the middle picture on the left side here: [url]www.spermagames.com/events/gb-ao-karlsruhe/#c553[/url]
I haven't met anyone who let's herself go, let's herself fall into horniness when she really get's going, like she does. Read up in previous Spermagames-reports in the Bareback AO thread, especially my report on the Gangbang-Weekend in January 2012 and the party on March 15th 2012 here: [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3289-Spermagames-Bareback-AO-Gangbang-Parties&p=1258631&viewfull=1#post1258631[/url]
[QUOTE=Zoman69;1393875]What happened to Julia. Is she just taking a break or did she play sick because she doesn't want so many guys touching her?[/QUOTE]According to the SG-website, she will be out of commission for several weeks because someone hurt her inside while fingering her. As a result, it is now unwanted to finger the women at the gangbangs. And rightfully so! Why the fuck is it necessary for some guys to finger a woman, so she can't party anymore?
[QUOTE=SwingerLover; 1393741]The line-up for all March-parties has changed:
FRI 22nd: AO-GB-Party with Caro, Dark Mara, Gabi, TS Luna & others for 120 € + 20 for HIV-test.[/QUOTE]And changed again: Caro will not be present on the 22nd of March.
[QUOTE=SwingerLover;1394920]According to the SG-website, she will be out of commission for several weeks because someone hurt her inside while fingering her. As a result, it is now unwanted to finger the women at the gangbangs.[/QUOTE]Unbelievable. You could not touch her hair, not finger her. Ok, what is this girl doing on an (AO) Party anyway.
Typical "TO BE AVOIDED" girl anyway. Her attitude was very bad during last party, also BEFORE the finger acceident. (typical NOT leeting herself go, NOT accepting anything, etc).
It would not surprise me, that she freaked out when somebody fingered her (very normal on the parties I visit) and therefore caused the damage in fact herself by roughly trying to escape from it.
PS: compare this to the GB event I was last week in NRW: 4 super girls, 2 teenies, and 2 "30s", with full commitment to do everything! Best party this year for me, will write report later.
Ah ok now I understand. Well after having myself had to live through travelling for 45 minutes to Koblenz for an AO party with yvi (aopaar I think from poppen and tabulose-huren. Com) who had to break off in the middle of the party because 2 idiots were trying to finger her like some kind of hole in the ground. I have to admit why don't party organizers specifically ban this activity, I mean come on if there were some decent fellows who all washed their hands with disinfectant and then used some baby oil it might be ok. But of course we all know how there are always at least one or two idiots who show up to the parties who have to be treated like little children and told what and what not to do. But even then again who wants to lick a girls pussy after some mechanic who was chaning the oil on his car sticks his rough fingers in there. I say there should only be penises and tongues in the pussies. Just like other things that annoy you at such gangbangs such as the occasional condom fucker who then ruins the feeling (and taste again) for those trying to fuck bare. Due to the strange dry lube present on all rubber condoms. Just ban them or let them have their own parties. I even seen people at one party dumb enough to enter the girls bare anally and then stick them back in the pussies. Now THAT is definitley where infections if nothing else just bacteria come from. We all remember swingerlovers disgusting mudpie report from barebackkreis last year. Leave that crap to the porno films or special circus parties with pigs and horses. So as you can see with so many problems present needless to say will have to start organizing our own special schlammschieben only parties. With no condoms, no anal, no fingering to be able to enjoy it right.
OK. So all that being said the next up I do have to go ahead and give a FANTASTIC report about my last party which was one of the best I've been to in a long long time.
[QUOTE=Zoman69;1395335]Well after having myself had to live through travelling for 45 minutes to Koblenz for an AO party with yvi (aopaar I think from poppen and tabulose-huren. Com)[/QUOTE]Ha! More info on that please! (But in the Bareback thread where it belongs.)
[QUOTE]who had to break off in the middle of the party because 2 idiots were trying to finger her like some kind of hole in the ground. I have to admit why don't party organizers specifically ban this activity,[/QUOTE]Yes, some women now say strictly no to any fingering. So now the idiots have to find other ways to annoy people. Like pissing into Melanie Moon's mouth without warning during a BBBJ at yesterday's party. I leave it to anybody who knows her to imagine her reaction!
[QUOTE]Just like other things that annoy you at such gangbangs such as the occasional condom fucker who then ruins the feeling (and taste again) for those trying to fuck bare.[/QUOTE]Amen. Why is it that they still write about AO not being mandatory and use of rubbers is still allowed? I've never seen anybody write: "Use of condoms is not mandatory, bareback fucking is allowed." In this regard, still multiple hurrahs to Gangbang-Natascha and Spassfucktor-Ronja, who both send everybody away who approaches them with a condom.
[QUOTE]We all remember swingerlovers disgusting mudpie report from barebackkreis last year.[/QUOTE]Ah, that brings back memories. Yuck!
[QUOTE]needless to say will have to start organizing our own special schlammschieben only parties. With no condoms, no anal, no fingering to be able to enjoy it right.[/QUOTE]Problem is how to get everybody to the same place at the same time.
Maybe the Surprise-party at Melanie Moon's on April 12th would be an option.
[QUOTE=SwingerLover;1395485]Yes, some women now say strictly no to any fingering. So now the idiots have to find other ways to annoy people. Like pissing into Melanie Moon's mouth without warning during a BBBJ at yesterday's party. I leave it to anybody who knows her to imagine her reaction![/QUOTE]Maybe the advert for this party mentioned that it was a [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] up!
I left at home early to go to this new place; it took only 1hour 50 minutes to get there via A61, A48 & A3 with no traffic jams. So I arrived early at 14:20. This location has been the easiest one to find at all until now. Coming from the south, you exit the A3 at exit 20, Solingen; at the traffic lights you turn right, then IMMEDIATELY turn left and you're there. Hardt 139 in Langenfeld, a rented location called 'Villa in Petto', which usually seems to be a regular hoorhouse or Partytreff-like place. Seperate rooms upstairs with numbers on the doors, like at relax-today in Kerpen-Sindorf. Actually it most resembled the Hülser Starße 109 location in Krefeld. Bar / Lounge downstairs, you have to walk up the stairs to the first floor to get to the playgrounds, three rooms available with shower or whirlpool in them and just one bed per room. (From this desciption alone, no one could tell about which of the two places I'm writing about.) So the party might as well have taken place in Krefeld, there would have been no difference locationwise. And right upfront: I don't like this new SG-location in Langenfeld.
Pros:
Easy to reach; arriving as early as I did, I even got a parking space on the premises.
Secluded location near the Autobahn, no neighbours to be disturbed.
Lockers for clothes & valuables. Nice interior. (Compered to some other places) That's it.
Cons:
Only three rooms of this big building in use for the party, also only half the lounge. Propably a rent issue.
The regular hoorhouse-rooms with only one bed in them are too small for a gangbang party like that. Usually only one woman per bed possible. When Melanie Moon wanted to start, she came back down again because all 3 rooms were occupied and there was no room for her at that time.
The small rooms get hot very quickly if there are 12 people inside; then someone opens a window, which causes some draft while everybody is sweating. As a result I'm now fighting the beginnings of a cold. There has to be quite a line-up there before I go back to this place again!
Because the rooms are only rented for the party and are regularly used for one-on-one single service, they didn't want to get their new matrasses soaked with sperm. So they had put some plastic canvas cover / tarpaulin on the mats under the sheets plus a blanket on top of the sheet. The result is obvious: Noises from the plastic during the action all day long, the sheets sliding off from the plastic, then the plastic sometimes sliding off the mat. At one point there was only the bare mattrass on one of the beds, while Rita was lying directly on the plastic foil on the other half of the bed, being fucked. Once more: This place is not suited for gangbang parties like that!
The bed in the middle room was a cheap warehouse bed with plastic feet. Result: After 3 women got humped over 50 times on there, one of the plastic feet broke. Just while I was fucking Rita. Once again: Not suited for gangbangs if you don't have decent beds that can endure this kind of gangbang action. The trashy apartments in Krefeld become more and more appealing. (Even though beds have collapsed there too.)
Even though the lockers are one of the few pros, the keys were a con. Because you had to keep them with you all day long, put onto your wristband. So while fucking, the key was dangeling around constantly or it was under your arm or on the woman. Melanie Moon feared from the start to get key-scratches all over or her stockings accidently ripped apart by the keys. (I think she didn't like the location and the handling of things either.)
Personnel: There were only 2 of the SG-team there, handling the door, the phone, the bar, the HIV-testing all by themselves. Two women from the house were helping with towels and showing people around to lockers, bathrooms and such. Definitely two persons short. When a new guy arrived in the afternoon, there was no one at the door. I had to go and get someone to take his money and show him in. Rita's hubby was helping out handling the bar sometimes. Melanie's hubby has smarted up already and didn't lift a finger to help. (They had tricked him like that into helping out before. Without asking first.)
Neither management nor location can compete the least bit with the Karlsruhe-place; and both places plus a fancy cake with a cherry on top can't compete with just half of the former location in Reichelsheim!
The party:
Sex, sex, sex! Everybody was there as advertised. And it cost me only 100 € this time, because I had registered upfront and still had a valid HIV-test from 3 days before. After sitting around chatting and waiting for the party to start at 15:00, I went upstairs around that time and Amelie was already in action in the 3rd room. Moaning and screaming for more as usual. I watched her a while, being fucked by the others, then I tried my luck. Got inside her, poked her a little, all of a sudden I got soft again. WTF? I don't know if it was the cold room or the disturbing noise from the plastic on the bed or what, I just couldn't keep it up to continue fucking her. So we broke it off. Later on, I got no opportunity with her again. Either she was occupied or I was busy elsewhere.
Rita: Not quite as ruthless and relentless as last time in Karlsruhe, but that had been over the top anyway, even for her. Instead just normal, regular roughfucking. Before I got to her, she was lying on the bed with both her legs behind her head, being banged by one of the guys. Gymnastic Olympics again! After that, I started to bang her, but that got interrupted by the collapsing bed. Banged her goodbye a bit at the end of the party, but couldn't take that to an end either, because by then I was beat. So not very much with me and Rita going on that day either.
DS couple: The DS stands for "domination soumission" (Domination Submission). A private Walloon-Belgian couple playing out their DS-game here. Which seems to have been: He presents her to the crowd and she submits. However, after strutting around from room to room just watching for the first hour, I already thought they were one of those couples who just go to clubs to watch and don't do anything. Because I had already shot off twice before they entered the middle room for the first time. But then, when all other 4 women were taking a break, the belgian redhead submitted. Meaning she got on the bed and fucked EVERYBODY! She stayed on there for propably two hours in a row, being fucked at least 40 times. Meanwhile other women returned to the other rooms, she still stayed on and fucked and fucked and fucked. I got into her twice, but both times were too shortly after other action I had before, so I couldn't do her for very long. At other times when I had been good to go, there was a crowd of 10 constantly around her, so I went and fucked someone else. But this was one hot cookie! With her there again and the right bunch of other women around, it will be worth going back to even this crummy place again. So the others continued to fuck her into submission even more. Later on she did a 2nd session, pardon, he had her do a 2nd session in the 3rd room, but very shorter and less guys. Then they suddenly were gone, didn't stay til the end of the party. Just as well, I believe she still was the one getting fucked the most that day.
Melanie Moon: It took a while before she could get started, because there was no free space for her upstairs to lay down. Once the first room closest to the stairs got free, she got on the quarter-circular bed in the corner of that room and a bunch of guys started fucking her, with her giving blowjobs left and right. When the opportunity presented itself, I stuck it in and fucked her creampied pussy while she was blowing another guy. This time her tits didn't disturb me, so I could take it to the end and added my 2nd cum of the day to the mix. Later on there must have been the incident with the idiot who pissed into her mouth while she was BBBJing him. I didn't witness this, was only told by her later, and I'm not sure, but I believe they kicked this guy out. I had another good fuck with Melanie later on where I did her from behind in that same room, this time directly on the plastic foil because the sheet had said it's goodbyes and was taking a break on the floor in front of the bed. Her arms constantly got stuck to the plastic, the noise from the plastic was constantly available too. I had to break that session off after a while because my fitness started to fade. Then the others continued to plastic-fuck her. (No pun intended, plastic referring here to the plastic canvas, not to her tits!) I got one more opportunity to enter her from behind at the end of the party, when she was kneeling on the bed in the 3rd room, where Rita was being fucked too. So I poked Melanie some more, after a while I noticed another guy with a hard one waiting for me to be done, so I made room for him and let him fuck her, while I switched to Rita for the forementioned goodnight-bang.
Gabi: I had met her first at the party in Karlsruhe 3 weeks back, she was here in Langenfeld too, and again she was the star of the show for me. (With MM being a close #2.) I had my 2nd fuck with her, a little after the short poke with Amelie, and she was as horny as 3 weeks before. Her pussy was full enough already for some nice Schlammschieben, she loves to be banged pretty hard too, what more can you want? So my first load got delivery into her again, just like at the Karlsruhe-party. She's not the supermodel type, again a lot of guys first ignored her, at one point she was on the bed blowing her guy and said that her pussy was bored. Then one guy came and fucked her. Then one more. Next thing I see, there's 8 guys surrounding the bed, doing her one after another. Strange thing. First very few approach her, then nobody seems to get enough of her. She propably fucked nearly as much as the Belgian DS-Redhead, but not in THAT long a session. Instead she got on more often. I fucked her a second time that day, again a very great fuck, and she made me come again. She is definitely a reason to go to any party where she's available to be gangfucked. Like I said, again the star of the day for me. Although nothing spectacular to report, just plain great sex. She's an event in herself.
I had hoped to meet Optimist at this party, but I forgot to PM him that I was able to make it there after all. Sorry. Instead I got to meet Spritz. He's the dutch guy that had posted a list of belgian parties in the Calendar thread a while back, we only identified each other at the end of the party and were chatting for nearly two hours afterwards.
Let's see. I started out with Amelie, then fucked Gabi and came, then fucked Melanie and came, then the Redhead, later on her again, then Gabi again and came, Melanie again, then finished off the bed with Rita, Melanie from behind, then switched to Rita yes, I think that sums up everything. So despite the non-suitable location, I had a great time at a good party again. After all, it all depends on the women that are there; and those five were a pretty exotic and great mixture, who make me overlook a lot of the various lacks of the location.
Thanks for the report. I skipped this party because of the lack of younger girls, but good to hear you had a good time. How many men were pesent (approx.) you think?
[QUOTE=Maxime;1397789]Thanks for the report. I skipped this party because of the lack of younger girls, but good to hear you had a good time. How many men were pesent (approx.) you think?[/QUOTE]I didn't exactly keep count, and the small rooms might have made it appeared to be fuller than it was. My guess is around 40 to 45, but no more than 30 at the same time. No long lines to stand in, except when the Walloon redhead first went onto the mat and everybody wanted to hump her. Then there were a dozen guys in the room at once. And one time there was a line of 8 to 10 waiting to pump some more cum into Gabi, just a few minutes after she complained about her Fotze being bored when everybody was elsewhere. Aside from that there was no queue anywhere, as far as I could see. (Except for those standing in line to get their test done in the beginning.) So all very decent and harmonious swinishness.
On another matter: The advertised line-up for every party seems to change on a weekly basis. After first advertising Caro without her concent, then making it look as if she had agreed and cancelled and agreed again when she hadn't agreed to be there in the first place and then had to threaten a lawsuit to get her picture taken off the site again; after Manu still having been advertised for a week after it was already clear that she still can't party this month and is now being replaced by Carmen on the 21st, the next change is now that Marie's gangbang-inauguration is postponed until March 22nd. So check the line-up before you go there and see if it's still the way it was when you registered. I for one will wait with registering for the party on the 22nd until 2 days before. The line-up for that party right now is: Marie, Dark Mara, Gabi, TS-Luna & others. [url]www.spermagames.com/events/gb-ao-karlsruhe/#c723[/url]
For the 28th in Karlsruhe, the first pictures have appeared in the banner on top of the site: Dana & Kitty should be there. Unless that changes again too in the next 2 weeks.
Now that SG is back in business, and two locations established, the question arises as to which is best to go to.
Judging from SwiLo's posts it would seem that both venues are significantly smaller than the one that they had in Reichelsheim. Also, the facilities are not as good at both compared to the previous venue at Reichelsheim.
Looking at the website it would seem that both venues hold 2 events per month but with Karlsruhe holding sometimes 3 in the month.
I also see that they tend to hold events on a Thursday or Friday, no more on a Saturday. Which means that you can't pop over there from the UK for a dirty weekend when the need arises but would have to take time off work during the week.
From what I see the roving cast of performers do not favour any particular venue and you get 3 to 4 girls at each venue.
Having eventually worked out how to get to the Reichelsheim site after a bit of investigation I was also wondering which of these sites would be easiest to get to if you were travelling by public transport. Are any of them close to a train station? An additional consideration is that there is an airport and flights from the UK to Koln and Dusseldorf but not Karlsruhe. Is there an international airport close to Karlsruhe?
So in summary, which of the two is best to visit in terms of:
1) Size and quality of the facilities.
2) Ease of getting to by public transport.
A bonus question. If you visit one of these venues for an event and wanted to stay for at least another night in Germany, are there any other regular parties (with testing) within a short distance of any of these two venues.
[QUOTE=Myrrh;1398142]Now that SG is back in business, and two locations established, the question arises as to which is best to go to.[/QUOTE]Definitely Karlsruhe-Hagsfeld. Already because of the small rooms and plastic canvas on the beds in Langenfeld.
[QUOTE]Judging from SwiLo's posts it would seem that both venues are significantly smaller than the one that they had in Reichelsheim. Also, the facilities are not as good at both compared to the previous venue at Reichelsheim.[/QUOTE]Not even close.
[QUOTE]Looking at the website it would seem that both venues hold 2 events per month but with Karlsruhe holding sometimes 3 in the month.
I also see that they tend to hold events on a Thursday or Friday, no more on a Saturday. Which means that you can't pop over there from the UK for a dirty weekend when the need arises but would have to take time off work during the week.[/QUOTE]Yes, that's another flaw. I liked the weekends much better than the Thursdays.
[QUOTE]From what I see the roving cast of performers do not favour any particular venue and you get 3 to 4 girls at each venue.[/QUOTE]I had 5 at each of my last 2 parties.
[QUOTE]Having eventually worked out how to get to the Reichelsheim site after a bit of investigation I was also wondering which of these sites would be easiest to get to if you were travelling by public transport. Are any of them close to a train station? An additional consideration is that there is an airport and flights from the UK to Koln and Dusseldorf but not Karlsruhe. Is there an international airport close to Karlsruhe?[/QUOTE]There are airports in Stuttgart and Saarbrücken, but I don't know about UK connections. There's also airport Hahn (on my map) and there is a possibility to go from there to Karlsruhe by bus. I've written some about that in the Trip Planning thread. There's also the option to get a ride with me from Hahn, IF I go to that particular party and IF we can leave there early enough.
If you take a close look at my map, you'll see that the trainstation Karlsruhe-Hagsfeld is not very far from the Storrenacker-location. Should take no longer than 10 minutes on foot.
Langenfeld is obviously not very far from Düsseldorf airport and not that much further away from Köln-Bonn-airport either. But the public transportation to Villa in Petto seems to be crap. If you again look closely on my map, then you'll see that the Langenfeld-trainstations are on the opposite side of town. The one in Leichlingen (southeast of Villa in Petto) seems to be closer. But still at least 3-4 km away. There was a bus-station not far from the party-location, but I obviously don't know nothing not about schedules and if any busses are still driving at night.
[QUOTE]So in summary, which of the two is best to visit in terms of:
1) Size and quality of the facilities.[/QUOTE]Karlsruhe. The whole building in Langenfeld might be better as a building. But it's only in use less than half and the rooms are too small for those parties. The place in Karlsruhe is basically a former small discotheque or bar. IMO it's still way better than Villa in Petto. I want Reichelsheim!
[QUOTE]2) Ease of getting to by public transport.[/QUOTE]Neither. Karlsruhe is too far from the next airport, but has good train connections; in Langenfeld it's the other way around. For both places you better have a car. By car, both are THE easiest to reach places I've ever been to. (Once you know where the entrance to the Karlsruhe location is.)
[QUOTE]A bonus question. If you visit one of these venues for an event and wanted to stay for at least another night in Germany, are there any other regular parties (with testing) within a short distance of any of these two venues.[/QUOTE]Who knows? Depends on what's offered at the time. After the party in Langenfeld on the 7th (where I was) you could have gone to the hotelgangbangs of Tina & Udo in Dortmund-Hörde or Creampie-Steffi's in Düsseldorf (that one with testing) , but those are nothing regular. Although Tina seems to look for hordes of dicks on a daily basis. If you go to Langenfeld on the 21st of March, then there's an Eves Diamonds (Eva-Freundin) party in Mönchengladbach and LaLunaMoers Flatrate day the following Friday. Those are regular. But without testing. And how do you get there from Langenfeld without a car?
It all depends on how they schedule their party. So if you want to plan this weeks ahead, you might as well throw dice.
Your best chance would be SG in Karlsruhe with a party by Susi or MM in Rheinstetten the day after or before. Or something Ronja. If any of that should happen in useful order. You might as well win the lottery.
To get concrete: SG Karlsruhe on March 22nd plus Yvonne's bound-AO-gangbang in Stuttgart the day after might work. Both with test. Yvonne's event for 150 € + test is prohibitively expensive, since you can't use the free gangbang on the following TUE, which is included. It's also pretty short with only 90 minutes.
On April 11th & 12th are SG-parties in both places. But the website isn't clear about what's where. In the preview list it says 11th KA / 12th LA; in the banner on top of the site it's the other way around. If the original plan holds, then you could do either LA on the 12th and Eves Diamonds (without testing) on the 13th or KA on the 11th and then go to Melanie Moon's surprise party in Saarbrücken on the 12th. Or do both SG-parties, but that would mean Sarah May two days in a row; plus whoever else will be there. The problem from getting to one place to another remains the same.
Summary: You're better off with a car. And I still prefer Reichelsheim. Then Reichelsheim again. Then a close 3rd place for Reichelsheim. Then Karlsruhe, followed by the first floor in Reichelsheim. Langenfeld last. There will have to be quite an excellent line-up there to get me back to the plastic foil brothel in Langenfeld again. Or I would have to be extremely horny with nothing better happening that day.
[QUOTE=SwingerLover; 1398162]Definitely Karlsruhe-Hagsfeld. Already because of the small rooms and plastic canvas on the beds in Langenfeld.
Karlsruhe. The whole building in Langenfeld might be better as a building. But it's only in use less than half and the rooms are too small for those parties. The place in Karlsruhe is basically a former small discotheque or bar. IMO it's still way better than Villa in Petto. I want Reichelsheim!
Summary: You're better off with a car. And I still prefer Reichelsheim. Then Reichelsheim again. Then a close 3rd place for Reichelsheim. Then Karlsruhe, followed by the first floor in Reichelsheim. Langenfeld last. There will have to be quite an excellent line-up there to get me back to the plastic foil brothel in Langenfeld again. Or I would have to be extremely horny with nothing better happening that day.[/QUOTE]What an answer!
However, it seems to me that your main problem with Langenfeld is to do with the plastic sheets. Something which I would have thought is not a permanently unsolvable problem. Also, SG may take over the whole of the building in the future so as to solve the space problem?
As for Reichelsheim what is the latest with regards to the use of the old venue. I thought that another party provider was now doing a rival event there?
[QUOTE=Myrrh;1398142]Having eventually worked out how to get to the Reichelsheim site after a bit of investigation I was also wondering which of these sites would be easiest to get to if you were travelling by public transport. Are any of them close to a train station? An additional consideration is that there is an airport and flights from the UK to Koln and Dusseldorf but not Karlsruhe. Is there an international airport close to Karlsruhe?[/QUOTE]Myrrh, have you considered Karlsruhe Baden airport that Ryanair does? I used this airport a few years back after doing some clubs in the region. It has a decent bus service from Rastatt a nice journey in the Baden area. I gather because the flight only goes to a certain city maybe it does not apply to you.