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Guys,
what is the age of consent in Russia?
I have to write up some reviews of SPb but for now I'll say that the P4P is tough for a short term visitor, probably quite good for a resident.
But the opportunities for girl friends seem quite good. I was able to get several phone numbers cold on the street and metro. One of the numbers is for an incredibly hot little student. However, she is very young. I think she is just entering university. I want to stay on the legal side of the age of consent.
Hi to everybody,
Boys, a curiosity, knows sites or chat free where girls of the East Europa can be known, of the type as sentiments (Romanian).
Thanks
What is the magic behind the EE girls(RUssian, Ukranian and others). Why do we always feel comfortable or special with them. Why do we mostly feel GFE experiences with the EE girls?
I am not fall in love with one but I kept thinking about her, I know her patron very closely and I am a close friend of her(patron). Time to time we just come together to chat and drink.
I enjoyed taking her nice and popular places and feel very special with her. I am aware that she had sex with another man a day before and next day. Even though I felt weird. Hard to explain.
Is this part of the business. I have been mongering almost 9 years in 3 different contienents mostly in US, RUssia and Turkey, but I have never felt like this before. I had sex with girls and women who are more beuatiful than her. But I kept thinking about her.
4 of my buddies and I had two days long weekend house party. 4 guys 5 girls. I also argued with my buddies not to share her with others.
I am stucked.
hey,
I just dunno, but sometimes I have this terrible feeling that I'm doing something wrong when I fuck so many girls around.
Does anybody else also have this kind of remorse?
Yes ,
I have remorse that I can only do 2 to 3 at best a day.
See you in church.
Guido88
BBAJ,
Wow! That's a deep subject. We could discuss that on a separate thread ad infinitum.
I guess it's something that we all know when we see/feel it, but trying to define it is something completely different.
Okay guys, I just received some big news, and I could to really use some perspective on it, possibly from people who have been there before.
For most of the summer, I have been dating a very cute college student from Russia. She is in the United States on a summer work visa. She is a language student from a university in Russia. We have had a great summer, she is a lot of fun, and the sex has been incredible.
Well, summer is over, and now it's time for her to go back to school, but, as you may have guessed by now, she doesn't want to. She told me just today of her intent to stay in this country for at least a year. She knows that getting a visa will be a big problem, and it sounds to me like in her mind she is prepared to stay illegally if necessary. Where I live in the United States, there is annually a large contingent of foreign students that come from Russia and other countries in that part of the world. From what I understand, it is rather common for a small percentage of them to stay in this country after their work visas end. (And with US immigration policy being what it is these days –i.e. Mexico- from a legal aspect, it doesn't seem to be a big problem for them.)
What I’m mainly concerned about is the legal aspect for me, and the personal aspect for her. We have not exchanged “I love you’s”, but I'm pretty sure that's how she feels. I'm afraid I can't say the same about her, although I do care for her deeply. When I asked her why she came to this decision, she told me that I was a part of the reason. But more significantly, she said, she really just doesn't want to go back to her country. She has talked with friends through e-mail, who have already returned, and they tell her of the despair they feel upon returning to Russia, how they miss the United States and the lives they had there. One theme she consistently hits upon is the lack of freedom for her and her female friends in Russia. She tells me that in America, she can do whatever she wants, go to the clubs, spend the night with her boyfriend without society or her parents, giving her shit about it. I know this is a somewhat simplistic outlook, I'm just trying to explain where her mind is. From where she sits, right now, her life in the United States is better than it ever was in Russia, probably with or without me.
At this time she is working at a restaurant at the oceanfront and seems reasonably content with the work and the people she works with. Some of her Russian friends have tried to talk her out of this idea by asking her what will she do in America for work. To work in a restaurant or be a housekeeper forever? She is aware of this quandary, but in her youthful outlook (she’s 20) she chooses to see only the great potential for life in the United States. Her English is okay, but it's not great by any means, and I doubt that she could pass the language exam for university here.
When we first met back in June, I thought what a great situation this was: a relationship with a predetermined end-date! Three months of sexual bliss, a tearful farewell kiss at the airport, and then back to my normal life. Certainly, I was not expecting this. As a seasonal romance, it could not have been better. Three months is about my limit for relationships anyway. She is a great girl, but not in a marriage sense, and certainly not at this point in my life (I’m 29). So for her to tell me that she wants to stay now is totally fucking things up. She hasn't told her parents yet, and the flight she was scheduled to take is still three weeks away. Of course, I feel bad because she is dropping out of school to stay in the United States. Would she have made the same decision if I were not in the picture? Hard to say.
So now for the questions: What to do? Should I break-up with her now in the hopes that her sorrow will drive her home into the arms of her friends and family? Should I count my blessings and enjoy this lovely girl and delicious piece of ass to keep me warm this winter? Should I be concerned about being in a sexual relationship with a potential illegal alien? On this note, I should tell you that we are not, nor do we have any plans, to live together. Along those lines, what rights do non-citizens have concerning paternity and other domestic issues? I'm extremely careful during sex, rubbers every time, but God forbid, if she should become pregnant, would the paternity burden be placed on me by the state, just like with a citizen? (I really don't get the feeling that she is deceitful and would try to get pregnant intentionally, but then again, true deceit is by its very definition difficult to determine. Nonetheless, my babybatter goes down the toilet every time.)
Above all, I don't want to be caught in any legal trap, nor do I want to be the cause of this sweet girl ruining her life.
Anybody been here before?
(Didn't there used to be a Russian Women-Opinion thread? I looked for it but could not find it. If you guys think this post is off topic here let me know and I'll move it)
Perhaps not very easy for you, but try to explain that she will not be a permanent part of your life. Then she can do an unbiased decision. However, I understand that it is very simple to give such an advice not being involved in the situation.
Good luck to both of you.
LS... Here's the deal... If she honors her visa and returns to Russia, she will probably be granted another visa to come to the USA, student/tourist/fiance... BUT if stays in the USA illegally, she will never be granted a USA visa, of any type, again and she will never be able to leave the USA for any reason... at least, and still be able to return!
This is very common when RU girls come to the USA and it is a trap if they choose to stay. Very difficult and long lasting decision.
It is a similar situation if you overstay your RU visa and then want to get another visa... it becomes more difficult. In the USA, it becomes impossible.
LS,
Count your blessings, fuck like bunnies, and make sure she gets to the airport on time!
I've never been in this position myself, but I know many people who have. CAT is right, this type of situation is a trap, for both the girl and yourself (at least emotionally).
She has 4 options;
1. She can overstay her visa. No one will come after her. The INS is not going to send out Marshals to track down one stray Russian girl. And there are no legal consequences for you in associating with an illegal alien.
But she will not be able to work after her work permit expires, and she will not be able to renew her work permit, so she will have no source of income. Her only option will be to find an employer who will be willing to hire her, knowing that she is illegal. This is a terrible life, much worse than her life back in Russia. She will be paid less than minimum wage and she will be at the mercy of whoever happens to be employing her for as long as she is in the U.S.
2. Stay as a student. It's possible that she could adjust her current visa status to that of a student. She would have to register at a college or university here in the U.S. and she would have to show that she had the financial resources to support herself while studying here. Are you willing to pay for that?
There is a terrible shortage of nurses in the U.S. right now. I've heard that the State of California, for instance, is sponsoring foreign citizens who are willing to make a commitment to becoming professional nurses.
3. Persuade some American guy to marry her. Are you willing to do that?
4. Honor the terms of her visa and go home. If she does, then there is a very good chance that she will be granted another visa at some point in the future. If she doesn't, she will never be granted a U.S. visa again. Unless she marries an U.S. citizen.
As young and idealistic as she may be, you need to persuade her that she really is better off back home.
If you really want to test her love for you, send her home, and then go visit her in Russia. If she is still as crazy about you back in her home town as she was here, then it might be for real.
One piece of advice. If she does decide to stay, as I said, the INS will not track her down, but, if she should happen to walk into an INS office for some reason, they will arrest her on the spot and deport her.
BTW, if she gets pregnant, it's her problem. If the child is born here in the U.S., it will automaticlly be a U.S. citizen, as well as a Russian citizen. But that won't help her in any way in so far as staying in this country.
Good luck,
Stravinsky
LS,
This really depends on where you are, and how easy it is for a person to survive there without a visa. I know quite a few Russian girls in NYC who have lived here several years illegally, and they do perfectly fine - have their jobs, driver licenses, bank accounts, credit cards, car loans, etc. But if you're in, I don't know, Idaho or Washington state then it may be difficult to survive as an illegal immigrant.
In any case, if the girl wants to stay she certainly can, and she does have options even being here illegally. She'll get paid under the table, won't pay any taxes / social security, and won't get to vote, but other than that she should be fine. The only way for her to become legal though is through marriage. These four Russian girls I know, I met them about five years ago just as they got off the boat. Three of them are still single but desperately looking, and the fourth one got married three years ago, and just got her green card without any problems.
Anyway, this is all regarding her. In regards to you, the ONLY option is to eject, eject, eject. Do NOT stick around. Russian girls are best enjoyed in their natural habitat, or fresh out of it. If she stays in the US and you keep seeing her, be ready to watch that Mr Hyde come out and rapidly take over.
Whatever you do, don't marry her; or at the very least don't marry her until she becomes fully Americanized in a couple of years. Every single marriage or long-term relationships with replanted ex-Soviet dyevs I've ever seen, they all ended very similarly because of the girls' rapid personality change brought on by the change in environment. Be very, very careful. She's only so nice because she doesn't know any different, yet.
Be a man and tell her that if she stays you have no plans on taking care of her.
Or have her enroll in the cheapest community college you can find and get a student visa.
Sometimes it almost gets annoying listening to Ukrainian/Russian woman complaining about being stuck in the ex SU. If they want to know what life can really suck like, they should try being a female in any Muslim country or living in 90% of Africa.
[QUOTE=Long Stroker]Okay guys, I just received some big news, and I could to really use some perspective on it, possibly from people who have been there before.
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(Didn't there used to be a Russian Women-Opinion thread? I looked for it but could not find it. If you guys think this post is off topic here let me know and I'll move it)[/QUOTE]
One O Nine - gotta love those NYC Russian strippers...;)
Be careful if you will decide to marry her..
I totally agree with 109.
I have 3 friends married with 2 slovak girls and 1 czech girl, it is unbelievable how these girls from east europe change after they get married!
They become even more selfish than our, very much, selfish native italians girls!
And when they are married, they know that if they decide to get divorce, they will have all life long very good salary from you without do nothing.
This make, for example my friends, scared often to do something wrong, make them do so good and their wife treat them worst as if they were dog!
They, my friends, are housekeepers now..sad, very sad, but true!
Maybe my friends are just weak?
I don't think so... The life of divorced man here in Italy is not so nice and very seldom marriage with girls from east europe have long future.
Just what I saw here, just my 2 cents.
LS:
The guys are right, tell her like it is. She needs to know the real deal and you certainly dont want to maneuver yourself into an ugly situation.
Escape is relatively easy now, if you wait to long it could be like quicksand.
Her situation isnt uncommon, girls on exchange programs, au pair girls, work permit girls etc. go through it all the time all around America.
Still, she has to know where she stands and where you as a couple stand. You arent her knight in shining armor, even if that reality hurts both her and bruises your ego. You said it yourself, you don't want to be that guy.
IMHumbleO her only legit option is to go home and try to come back as a student... it will give her perspective about her time in America and the chances of returning legally are good. If you do like her enough to do so, offer for her to come back to you, but as a legal immigrant on a student visa... and only on a legal basis.
If she stays illegally, she'll be poor, unskilled, lacking proper language skills, illegal, and vulnerable to blackmail, abuse and manipulation.
She'll be class A white trash. That's a shitty life.
Be good to her, be kind to her, but tell her like it is.
Just to clarify a couple of things about marriage to a RU girl... I agree totally with everyone about their attitude changing, which is dangerous enough.
However, I'm not totally sure about getting a visa extension if a RU girl is in the USA, gets married and then requests a visa based on being married...
BUT, if an American marries a RU/Ukr girl in the FSU, she must still go through all of the visa requirements that every FSU girl must go through for a fiance visa. The rules change slightly if you have been married for more than a year, but you still must jump through the same hoops. This applies even if she has a husband and a baby who is an American citizen. At this point, who knows how the fiance visa would be affected if she had overstayed her visa in the past.
My gut tells me that, in this day and age, the authorities will not be particularily happy when she overstays her visa and then walks in married and requests a green card based on marriage to a US citizen... even if she has another US citizen sucking on her right breast at the time.
Best advice for us all to give you... Send her home and go visit. Then you are in control... BUT, if you decide it is "LUV", get a pre-nup and never tell her all the details of your financial affairs or you may see it on another official document in the very near future.