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Forever Detroit,
Great write up! Enjoy reading it. Man, everyone is warning me about those type of chicas. I am getting to a point where I an now thinking to stay in a non chica freindly hotel and take the chicas to a different hotel. I ahve no plan for overnights.
Thanks for the detailed report.
It sounds like you had a well rounded trip. As far as the gfe, you can practically forget it in Sosua. The chicas from around the country come to Sosua to make the pesos. On the next trip travel outside Sosua to the smaller towns in the mountain areas or east past Cabarete. There is plenty of small bars with chicas along the way that you can visit.
Hi guys,
In sosua and been checking out Passion after the good reviews here. Been with two ladies. One very good (Deborah) and one just below average (Caroline).
Deborah: short light chocolate girl with great spirit and very actively involved to ensure that I left happy. Her massage was great too.
Caroline: good looking, bad bad massage (rubbing softly with too much oil. Felt like a sardine) and was so keen in making me happy
To be continued.
[QUOTE=Forever Detroit] P.S. I would appreciate imput on the western union thing. I read so much about guys getting set up. I'm not sure, I'm sure more seasoned veterans can help [/QUOTE]I'm not sure that I qualify as a "seasoned veteran", but I've been to the DR about eight times. Six of those trips were to Sousa. In addition to input regarding Western union, I've also included some unsolicited tips that you might want to consider for next time:
1) Western Union - Great, you found your GFE girl, but you've already paid (overpaid actually) for that encounter. She gave you the experience that you wanted, and you gave her what she wanted $$$. If you had wanted a different experience, like say a quick and dirty blow job in the bathroom within 2 minutes of meeting her, she would have gladly done that instead. Bottom line, she is just another Sousa hooker, and this was nothing more than a commercial transaction. It is over, and you have nothing to gain by sending her money. She has moved on to her next client(s), and you need to move on as well.
2) Friends - Stay away from locals who speak English. Do not hire Pimps or "Wheel Men".
3) GFE Girls - Avoid Haitians (Africans) for GFE - you'll have better luck with Dominicans (Latins).
4) Problem girls in your hotel room - Only take girls that you know (or that you've previously had, rather) back to your hotel room. Take all new girls to the Calypso hotel. No registration is req'd and a room is only about 300 pesos for an hour or two. That's nothing if the girl starts getting crazy on your ass, or is not living up to the agreement, or whatever... As you found out the hard way, it's easier leave than it is to get somebody to leave. Call it insurance...
Fd,
Just my two cents worth. Sounds like she has a lot going for her but. If you will be sending her WU to keep her off the streets and "true" to you. Firstly, this means you have to send enuff to support her and her family. If not, she'll be working Sosua to supplement your/her income Which brings me to my second point, IMHO, you cannot have a chica remain true to you when she lives in Sosua (Charamico is a suburb of Sosua). While I sure there are exceptions to the rule, most of these chicas have learned that making 2-3k boffing a gringo beats working hard for a month at a regular job for the same money. The first time she needs money, she'll be at Classicos or Latinos. It is hard to blame them when you consider there financial straits. Mom or one of the kids gets sick and she needs to pay 1K for a medico or medicine. She has a motoconcho accident. Just go into this with open eyes. The other way is just to send some money to help her out knowing this isn't just your exclusive novia and that she will still be working while you're gone. But she will be there for you when you return and the relationship will be what it is. Best of luck.
DF the agression they showed you is normal and the WU pitch one they make often... hey a few guys paying them a hundred or two a month and they have a good income.
forget the wu and just see her when you go back. Once you have done a few trips you will have a small harem of chicas wanting to be your novia.
[QUOTE=Koki9290]Fd,
Just my two cents worth. Sounds like she has a lot going for her but. If you will be sending her WU to keep her off the streets and "true" to you. Firstly, this means you have to send enuff to support her and her family. If not, she'll be working Sosua to supplement your/her income Which brings me to my second point, IMHO, you cannot have a chica remain true to you when she lives in Sosua (Charamico is a suburb of Sosua). While I sure there are exceptions to the rule, most of these chicas have learned that making 2-3k boffing a gringo beats working hard for a month at a regular job for the same money. The first time she needs money, she'll be at Classicos or Latinos. It is hard to blame them when you consider there financial straits. Mom or one of the kids gets sick and she needs to pay 1K for a medico or medicine. She has a motoconcho accident. Just go into this with open eyes. The other way is just to send some money to help her out knowing this isn't just your exclusive novia and that she will still be working while you're gone. But she will be there for you when you return and the relationship will be what it is. Best of luck.[/QUOTE]
Totally agree with above commments.
My last trip I hooked up with this juicy 18yo, we hanged for a few days and I got to meet some her friends. One of them was this long time gf of this NYC dude. Suppossedly he took care of her and what not. I met the dude...not too old, had a little bling, acting cool, clearly he had been in the DR before. He shows up and immediately is wifed up by this chica. Now I do not know how much he sends or how much he likes the arrangement but I do not know that 18yo friend was NOT staying at home prior to his arrival.
She would dress to the 9s and go clubbing or the beach. She usually blew off the local dominicanos throwing her compliments but was flirty with the euros and americanos.
I mean seriously, if you were her would you not be thinking "what about if this gringo gets tired of me/finds someone prettier/finds someone younger/ runs out of money...etc" Forget the one time emergency...what about long term solvency and security?
Another chick I met in one of the coffee shops, her story was: she had married to a german guy who had taken her to live in Germany for a year or so. Brought her back to the DR where she was living at his condo (nice condo btw) and he would come every couple of months to be with her. That interval continued to lenghten until, when I met her, he was coming 1 maybe 2x per year.
She told me who she never did anything behind his back, how she stayed at home watching TV...blah blah. At some point I made a casual remark about how I would be at Classico that night...her eyes lit up and said something along the lines of "well if a friend is going to be there then I will be there" That night she was there. Now this girl had a little bit of some class to her and let me tell you she had a GORGEOUS face. Her bod was just too skinny for me but seriously she had a beutiful face. I do not need to go into details but you know where this is going...yes?
Unless you are planning to be on the ground with her, live in the Dr, I say no WU.
[QUOTE=Guthrie]Thanks for the detailed report.
It sounds like you had a well rounded trip. As far as the gfe, you can practically forget it in Sosua. The chicas from around the country come to Sosua to make the pesos. On the next trip travel outside Sosua to the smaller towns in the mountain areas or east past Cabarete. There is plenty of small bars with chicas along the way that you can visit.[/QUOTE]
I have to respectfully disagree with the above. While you are much less likely to find GFE there than say Indonesia or the Phils if you spend your "interview time" wisely and are in no rush to pull the trigger you can find plenty of GFE....but at the end of the session they really will think they are your novia!!! =)
I am curious: which smaller towns are you referring to? Rio San Juan? Terrenas?
Hey Ty, thanks for your good post on Ghana, but I have been to Sosua this last summer. I always fly Delta into Santo Domingo, then take Carbie bus a few days later to Sosua (4 hours) about $10. Most flights to DR was cheaper going to Santo Domingo and being the capital the pickings is always good. Remember I do not speak spanish and I managed getting around in the country. I always meet guys from US and other places and ask lots of questions. In fact I took a lady with me to Sosua as a guide, she stayed one night and I remained there.
All you read about Sosua is true, its a party town but not during the day. When I arrived I walked around the city trolling for pussy, there was none to be had, then at 9pm that night girls started showing up. Beautiful girls galore. There was 2 big bar Disco's along the main drag. Each of these were full to capacity. There's only one main road there and its where most of the bars are. It seemed I was outnumbered by at least 25 to one. I did my best and took 2 out that night.
Sosua is on the northern coast about 10 miles out of Puerto Plata (main town). I packed light and took a motorcycle from bus terminal to Sosua. I found a nice hotel 1/2 blk off the main road, right in the middle of everything. The hotel name is Apart-hotel Don Antonio, the manager had lived in US before and can speak english. His name is Obe' Silerio 809/571-2662 or 809/571-4943. About $35. 00 a night. Girl friendly also.
I had already book flight to Ghana for Christmas leaving on 5 dec but today I cancelled them and book flight for Santo Domingo instead LOL. I may try the Ghana trip later. I too love beautiful Black pussy. I just read your post on Ghana where you said the pics Riskman posted was your GF, damn I would definately lay a tongue on that pussy LOL
Glad if I could help.
Alew217
[QUOTE=Ty Down]Can someone please tell me were Sosua is? I've been to Africa several times but I want to try DR. I just love those ladies of African descent.
Thanks,
Ty[/QUOTE]
Detroit,
First, thank you for your comments. You are really a good writer, by the way.
I have never been to the DR but will hit Sousua in january. I have been to Brazil countless times and Tijuana even more. I am quite experienced at this sport.
I agree with some of the posters that the best thing to do is go into the relationship with your eyes open. I got hurt bad once in Rio de janeiro and learned my lesson.
Sending money is fine as long as you realize that the girl lives in a culture where prostitution is more acceptable than in the US, and that prositution is one of the few sources of real income that these girls have access to.
Expecting them to quit is an assumption on our part that is not often sensible to them. That is unless you are willing to totally support the girl. This is a real option in my opinion only if you can afford it, want to do it, and plan on spending lots of time in the DR (moving there?).
Otherwise, just send money every now and then or a "small" amount on a regular basis. I have found that girls actually appreciate guys who send a certain amount on a regular basis more than the one-time big spender. Here I am giving up one of my secrets that a lot of guys do not understand. The girls tend to blow the big money fast by going out to party, buying new clothes, a cell phone etc. But they use the regular money to eat!
And remember, I think it was YOU who first mentioned novia, GFE, etc., not her! I have done the same thing in the past, only to then start getting suspicous when taken to meet the family. Relax and enjoy the fact that she was willing to take you there. Regardless of what many mongers say on the web, plenty of guys who visit these places will NEVER get taken home. It is obvious that she found you presentable enough to take to her family. ENJOY that shit brother because it is a positive.
In fact, despite what i said about prostitution being acceptable, girls do not really want to be seen outside certain areas in most Latin countries with guys who are obviously mongers. This girl showed you some real respect because I doubt she takes EVERY guy she meets home (I AM GOING TO PM with another question)
The reality is that you/I/we have to put yourself in the position to get hurt in order to find love. And despite what some guys in the ISG will say, you can find it in the DR, RIO,TJ, etc.
In the end, however, love is just like mongering, you are to enjoy yourself. If you enjoy having a girl in the DR, then send her some cash on a regular basis. When you hit town again you will be treated like a rock star and your costs will go down, more than making up for what you sent anyway.
TJ
[QUOTE=Premier1]3) GFE Girls - Avoid Haitians (Africans) for GFE - you'll have better luck with Dominicans (Latins).[/QUOTE]I am not the politically correct type usually; however, Haitians are Haitian and not African. They are of African descent as are the Many of the Dominicans that you refer to as Latins. Skin color alone does not indicate race, ethnicity or Nationality.
FD, your story is a very typical one played over and over again a million times by all the newbies from, Detroit, NY and Philly.. "I met this girl and she wanted me to be ner novio and I met her 1,2,or 3 kids and her mom, they are very poor from sosua abajo, maranata or charamicos, you go there and see how poor they are. You feel very sorry for them,, I know you really do. You have amazing GFE with her.. maybe even spend 3 or 4 days with her making love like theres no tomorrow..Handing out 3000 pesos daily here and there like its going out of style.. Already asking for a cell phone, Western Union, blah, blah blah. When you make a SOSUA girl your novia, You make her whole family your novia and you will be getting phone calls for every little thing. You will never find a good girl in SOSUA, NEVER NEVER EVER! but you might find good GFE'S. Where do you think you found this girl.. she's working, hustling..As soon as you left Where do you think your girl went? Maybe home for a little while to check on her kids.. Then where? She will be a little bored and go right back to where you found her... I know maybe you dont want to hear this, but in this aspect being the most blunt is the best way to get the message across.. Rules of thumb ESPECIALLY in SOSUA... "find em, fuck em, forget em!" "You can take the HO out of the game but you can't take the game out of the ho!" GUYS I THOUGHT LT is 1500 and ST is 1000, WTF is going on down there?
1)Always check your heart at the airport (2)Understand Sosua is a sex town, some are more upscale than others. (3)If you meet the family, they are probally in on the hustle (4)understand the dominican dudes fuck first, everyone else gets in line according to their pesos. If you find a good fuck with a good attitude, she will be with you no matter weather you send money or not. When you arrive either the motoconcho boys or her girlfriend will give her notice. The problem is that the little money they ask for is nothing to us. But I'm not going to pay you to fuck someone else. Drink your Presidentes, go to the beach, and get a fuck or two in, then go to the airport pick up your heart sit back and smile.
I'm interested in going to Sosua and combining mongering with scuba diving. 1st what hotel would be best for these hobbies. 2nd do you meet these girls mostly at clubs and on the beach. 3rd do the chicas go mainly for white guys, how would a brother with a little spanish do?
Gentelmen
Thanks for sharing your experiences, thoughts and opinions. I thought I might get a variety responses from the board members, and I did. I was looking for the tough love, staight shooting from you guys, and you provided it. Thank You very much.
Regarding the Novia situation, just so you know, I asked her. I was on a hump & dump mission when we met. Her demeanor impressed me so much I wanted to spend more time with her. I wasn't blinded by meeting her family, nor the fact that western union may come into play, because of the board members reporting their experiences. Thats why I wanted to share mine, so guys in my situation would have no misconceptions. As you read, after my "Haitian Tigre" experience I wanted to leave the country and try something different. Now I look forward to getting back to see my novia, isn't that worth something.
In the end, I think I will send something from time to time to help out. I am not assuming that she will be mine exclusively. I know I will not be exclusive to her either. I know that I want to see her again. As you read, she's not a 10, but we had a great connection I don't want to lose. So if I can keep a connection until my return, by helping her out from time to time. In my opion I don't think that is a bad thing.
Again, thank you gentlemen & board for all the help. I hope in all your endevours you find what your looking for! Oh, and on my wingman, Johnny. He was great, we learned alot from each other. My culture and his, we have connected a few times since I made it back to the states. My trip wasn't strickly to hunt punta. I wanted to learn a little about the culture too.
F. D.