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[QUOTE=TheCane;2511154]Not going to happen. You heard it here first.[/QUOTE]Wanna bet? There is a poll out that shows the majority of Repubs support Trump or want him to be their canidate. If not him then who?
[URL]https://www.politico.com/news/2020/11/24/poll-republicans-support-trump-2024-439757[/URL]
[QUOTE=RunMann;2511277]Wanna bet? There is a poll out that shows the majority of Repubs support Trump or want him to be their canidate. If not him then who?
[URL]https://www.politico.com/news/2020/11/24/poll-republicans-support-trump-2024-439757[/URL][/QUOTE]Dude,
We have four years to go until the next election. I don't know who yet, but I'm willing to bet it's not him. He's going to be so engrossed trying to save his ass and crumbling empire from other stuff that he won't have the time or interest in running. He won't see it as in his interests to run. And if there's anything Trump cares about, it's himself. I think it will be some other white male who may have a white female on the ticket. But more than that, with four years to go I'm giving this a rest for awhile. I look forward to January 20th and a new start!
I suspect Trump delayed a host of legal problems by becoming president. Self pardon remains untested in the supreme court.
[QUOTE=ScatManDoo;2511146]I thought that was true for most residents of China, Taiwan and Hong Kong?.[/QUOTE]Naturally you might think that if the only place you've ever been is Tijuana.
[QUOTE=ManonsanBoy;2511319]I suspect Trump delayed a host of legal problems by becoming president. Self pardon remains untested in the supreme court.[/QUOTE]That's why I expect the Phatass will go for the sure thing:
Resign shortly before January 20th and receive a full pardon from Mike Pence.
I think Barron Trump's new school in Florida comes back from the holidays on Monday, January 11th.
[QUOTE=ScatManDoo;2511132]I knew about it, as did anyone who consumes news from legitimate sources. There has always been knowledge about how other countries and regions are doing regarding covid. What rock have you been under?
The blame correctly belongs to our Phatass Orange incompetent leader.
He lied to the public for MONTHS switching between calling Covid a hoax and a virus that was going to magically go away with warmer weather.
He slow-walked aid to the first affected blue states and has left the US with a void in leadership regarding proven spread reducers, like wearing masks.[/QUOTE]Fauci is the one who said there was no need for masks. You completely leave out that Cuomo, the NY governor who showed "great leadership" in the press, sent Covid 19 infected patients back to nursing homes leading to a huge increase in deaths.
Then you have Democratic leaders time and again showing rules for thee and not for me as they broke their own rules when it got in the way of their life styles. The Democratic leadership spouted off "science" at every turn as if the scientists on their payroll had all the answers.
In the mean time, Peru enacted every single one of the measures these so called "scientists" called for and they have if not the highest close to the highest death and infection rate in the world. Yale did a study as to why that is (not that any of them could go there and study it for real) and pretty much declared that Peru and Peruvians suck and listed a bunch of Democratic talking points like the health system does not have enough government workers. I am not sure what that has to do with a virus spreading but whatever.
The irony about all this was the rallying cry "Stay safe, stay home" was probably the biggest joke of all as 74% of all Covid cases are spread at home; [URL]https://ny.eater.com/2020/12/11/22169841/restaurants-and-bars-coronavirus-spread-data-new-york[/URL].
Meanwhile, gyms were shut down and a whopping 0. 06% of all cases were found there.
I presented time and again the notion that nobody knows nuthin' about the virus but the Dems (or dums is more like it) had all the answers. It is a fucking cold virus with no cure. Why the fuck does anyone think they have the answers for any of this? If a country did not get swamped with the virus, they were likely more lucky than good.
I am not upset Biden won. 2005 and 2013 were years when the incumbent won re-election and the government went nuts as if it had four years where it had nothing to worry about, and I personally thought that Trump was better for the country but Biden may be better for me.
But now that Trump is out of office, I guess the virus is old news or more likely it will not be reported on the news.
Trump is out of office, and the media is still blaming all the ills of the world on him. I wonder how long this blaming shit is going to last.
The idea that if we had a Democratic president the virus would not have been as deadly may be the dumbest thing I have ever heard in my life.
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2511427]Fauci is the one who said there was no need for masks. You completely leave out that Cuomo, the NY governor who showed "great leadership" in the press, sent Covid 19 infected patients back to nursing homes leading to a huge increase in deaths.
Then you have Democratic leaders time and again showing rules for thee and not for me as they broke their own rules when it got in the way of their life styles. The Democratic leadership spouted off "science" at every turn as if the scientists on their payroll had all the answers.
In the mean time, Peru enacted every single one of the measures these so called "scientists" called for and they have if not the highest close to the highest death and infection rate in the world. Yale did a study as to why that is (not that any of them could go there and study it for real) and pretty much declared that Peru and Peruvians suck and listed a bunch of Democratic talking points like the health system does not have enough government workers. I am not sure what that has to do with a virus spreading but whatever.
The irony about all this was the rallying cry "Stay safe, stay home" was probably the biggest joke of all as 74% of all Covid cases are spread at home; [URL]https://ny.eater.com/2020/12/11/22169841/restaurants-and-bars-coronavirus-spread-data-new-york[/URL]..[/QUOTE]With regard to Fauci and masks, you're leaving out the fact that this is a "novel" coronavirus! That means that it's new, and we're still learning about it to this very day. In the very beginning, the experts were thinking that there wasn't human to human transmission. So no masks required. But when it was discovered that not only was there easy human to human transmission, but that people could be asymptomatic and still be shedding the virus, then yes the strong call for wearing masks and social distancing was made. So yes, Fauci did change his position on that. But his recommendations aren't just based on how he feels or something. They're based on science. And as the science and knowledge around this virus grows and develops, so too will the recommendations from the experts like Fauci, who are going to help mankind control and beat this scourge. Be fair. Doctor Fauci is just a man. A very smart man, but still a man nevertheless. He is still learning how this virus works just like everybody else is.
[QUOTE=TheCane;2511283]Dude,
We have four years to go until the next election. I don't know who yet, but I'm willing to bet it's not him. He's going to be so engrossed trying to save his ass and crumbling empire from other stuff that he won't have the time or interest in running. He won't see it as in his interests to run. And if there's anything Trump cares about, it's himself. I think it will be some other white male who may have a white female on the ticket. But more than that, with four years to go I'm giving this a rest for awhile. I look forward to January 20th and a new start![/QUOTE]Dude,
The Republican primaries are about three years away but the selection process began even before the 2020 election. You can give it a rest for a while the others will not, as soon as a president is sworn in the talk of the next election becomes the focus, its reality TV.
[URL]https://www.foxnews.com/politics/2024-republican-election-presidential-candidate-buzz[/URL]
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[QUOTE=TheCane;2511460]With regard to Fauci and masks, you're leaving out the fact that this is a "novel" coronavirus! That means that it's new, and we're still learning about it to this very day. In the very beginning, the experts were thinking that there wasn't human to human transmission. So no masks required. But when it was discovered that not only was there easy human to human transmission, but that people could be asymptomatic and still be shedding the virus, then yes the strong call for wearing masks and social distancing was made. So yes, Fauci did change his position on that. But his recommendations aren't just based on how he feels or something. They're based on science. And as the science and knowledge around this virus grows and develops, so too will the recommendations from the experts like Fauci, who are going to help mankind control and beat this scourge. Be fair. Doctor Fauci is just a man. A very smart man, but still a man nevertheless. He is still learning how this virus works just like everybody else is.[/QUOTE]Of course, and that's the very nature of science, to re-evaluate and make changes as more information becomes available. It's par for the course, and anyone who doesn't realize that is either ignorant or deliberately lying and grandstanding for some reason. Plus there was a concern about runs on medical masks and the potential to create shortages for healthcare providers. By early April masks were recommended by virtually all contagious disease specialists, plus several studies confirmed the efficiency of cotton, non-medical grade masks.
Now there were some dissenters, such as ass clowns like Rand Paul, an eye doctor spreading spurious arguments for political points, and of course there has been the unqualified radiologist Scott Atlas in the WH. But we just had a referendum on all that quackery and more, and the electoral college is confirming it as I type.
[QUOTE=TheCane;2511460]But when it was discovered that not only was there easy human to human transmission, but that people could be asymptomatic and still be shedding the virus, then yes the strong call for wearing masks and social distancing was made. So yes, Fauci did change his position on that. But his recommendations aren't just based on how he feels or something. They're based on science. And as the science and knowledge around this virus grows and develops, so too will the recommendations from the experts like Fauci, who are going to help mankind control and beat this scourge. Be fair. Doctor Fauci is just a man. A very smart man, but still a man nevertheless. He is still learning how this virus works just like everybody else is.[/QUOTE]You are doing the Democrat "science" thing instead of science. Science is about having a theory and backing it up with evidence. Fauci assumed that Covid was a typical corona virus and spread via contact. The typical flu virus spreads that way and masks in that data set have been shown not to work.
Covid-19 spreads through the air, and Fauci changed his position but remember during this period, he was St. Fauci and Trump was a bumbling idiot because Trump, and I think correctly, was concerned that doing all that the "scientists" wanted to do would have destructive effects on the economy without any benefit. Remember all the projections about ventilators? Yeah, putting so many people on ventilators was a mistake too.
This was a moment made for Bill Clinton where Trump read the tea leaves wrong and should have said, "I feel your pain." He showed a callous appearance and wrongly gave himself an A for how he handled Corona instead of saying grades are unimportant when so many Americans are dying. Trump was not stupid, but he was totally insensitive to America's plight, and there is no question appearance wise he did mismanage the Covid crisis.
The idea that scientists said Trump should do X and he did why is totally wrong. Trump listened and was all in on the vaccine effort, and it is bearing fruit right when he is leaving office. I think the criticism that Trump tuned out science is unfair.
[QUOTE=Paulie97;2511647]Of course, and that's the very nature of science, to re-evaluate and make changes as more information becomes available. It's par for the course, and anyone who doesn't realize that is either ignorant or deliberately lying and grandstanding for some reason. Plus there was a concern about runs on medical masks and the potential to create shortages for healthcare providers. By early April masks were recommended by virtually all contagious disease specialists, plus several studies confirmed the efficiency of cotton, non-medical grade masks.
Now there were some dissenters, such as ass clowns like Rand Paul, an eye doctor spreading spurious arguments for political points, and of course there has been the unqualified radiologist Scott Atlas in the WH. But we just had a referendum on all that quackery and more, and the electoral college is confirming it as I type.[/QUOTE]Did you know there's even such a thing as "Democratic" science? LOLOLOL! Anybody who can be objective knows that Dr. Fauci is apolitical, and has served under many different administrations.
[QUOTE=TheCane;2511725]Did you know there's even such a thing as "Democratic" science? LOLOLOL! Anybody who can be objective knows that Dr. Fauci is apolitical, and has served under many different administrations.[/QUOTE]This is goes back to the Trump cultist idea that it's all a plot to turn the election. This while they fail to notice that masks and social distancing have been popular the world over, where no Democrats or Trumps exist. This gross oversight doesn't speak well for the average IQ of the Trumpite, to say the very least. Amazing some even have college degrees, which betrays the diploma mill nature of many of our institutions.
[QUOTE=Paulie97;2511958]This while they fail to notice that masks and social distancing have been popular the world over, where no Democrats or Trumps exist. This gross oversight doesn't speak well for the average IQ of the Trumpite.[/QUOTE]Most things said by Trumpites leave this impression. Read Elvis' posts here attacking science.
[QUOTE=ScatManDoo;2512025]Most things said by Trumpites leave this impression. Read Elvis' posts here attacking science.[/QUOTE]This nonsense used to only be on shortwave radios with *******es like Alex Jones, then it grew with the internet and damned if it didn't make it into the WH. There's always been plenty of people dumb enough to believe it. They just needed to widen their audience, and it's very profitable. Dumb people send $ to these fakers, buying useless healthcare products (Alex Jones), or with Trump, $ to try and overturn the election, most of which goes right in his pocket.