[QUOTE=SteveNaive;2265061]What does it mean when she wants me to take care of her?[/QUOTE]Wouldn't it be much easier to ask her that so that you will have a for sure answer?
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[QUOTE=SteveNaive;2265061]What does it mean when she wants me to take care of her?[/QUOTE]Wouldn't it be much easier to ask her that so that you will have a for sure answer?
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2265172]Wouldn't it be much easier to ask her that so that you will have a for sure answer?[/QUOTE]Done that. They get very vague in answering, often leaving it as "up to you".
[QUOTE=SteveNaive;2265745]Done that. They get very vague in answering, often leaving it as "up to you".[/QUOTE]So be very vague when taking care of them. I have gotten the same results as you when I have asked. Last thing a chick wants to tell me about something is up to you.
[QUOTE=Ulfberth;1516715]Ok. My advise.
Use Thai women for sex and then forget it. All of them generally the pretty ones has a Thai bf or husband whom they deliver your money to. Some knew a Thai girls for years before they found out she cheats on him. Forget all about a western relationship with her.
The Thai men take the pretty ones when they are very young and then decide on them and own them and control them hard.
The Thai girls work hard. And go home with the money to the man who drink, fuck other girls even she know it .That's is in Thailand.
There is very dark side in Thailand and it can be very evil.
Thai men beat their women often. It is accepted. They scream after them and she obey . But if you raise your voice to your Thai girl. Oh my god. She will turn of and lose temper. And believe me they have temper.
Why us? Cause they are not afraid of us Europeans or us or so called farangs- they don't respect us.
It is the money they want and only the money.
Anything else with love and bla bla forget it for your own safety.
Don't fall in love with any hookers there. They are full of shit. But charming yes and they play their role good. Together with their Thai man or bf . To rip you off as much as possible and as long time as possible.
Los = land of scams.
[/QUOTE]I agree with all of that, from my own experience and from listening to others for decades.
I recently heard about a mutual friend, who's just built a house for 'his girl' somewhere off in the sticks.
I guessed, because I've heard the same story a million times, that he probably met her in Pattaya, she comes from Isaan, her parent's sent her to get some money and.
Maybe find a husband, he thinks she loves him, so he's sharing his pension with her and the family and he will never own the house and at some point, he'll lose it all.
He might work it out one day. Might not. He's a fat, beer drinking slob so maybe not.
You can buy the fantasy for a while, but that's all it is.
[QUOTE]Use Thai women for sex and then forget it.[/QUOTE]Here we go again. Another (compound profanity redacted) that came to Thailand and got got.
[U]Why does this continually happen?[/U]
Because western men (especially from [B]podunk[/B] countries forget to leave their values in the airport before they leave. I have said this more than once, western values do not serve your well in Thailand. In fact, they do not serve you well in any country. If you are going to Expat in a place then you have to learn how the locals do and think about things. Your ideas of the way something should be done or how to think about it don't mean jack.
[QUOTE]All of them generally the pretty ones has a Thai bf or husband whom they deliver your money to.[/QUOTE]Let's start with everyone who makes a consumer purchase. Do you generally care who your money gets delivered to? The answer is: No. Unless you have a problem with a certain vendor or provider.
[U]Example[/U]
[I]I wont buy [u]Sony[/u] products because I had a bad experience with a television built by them. If you dont care when you are making a consumer product purchase why do you care when you are making a consumer service purchase?[/I]].
[QUOTE]Some knew a Thai girls for years before they found out she cheats on him. Forget all about a western relationship with her. The Thai men take the pretty ones when they are very young and then decide on them and own them and control them hard. The Thai girls work hard. And go home with the money to the man who drink, fuck other girls even she know it. [b]Thats is in Thailand[/b].[/QUOTE][U]Yes, and who gives a fuck? [/U]
The OP gets and simultaneously he does not. Individuals should leave their western values at the airport they depart from. So by the time they arrive they can indeed understand that the country they are visiting is called THAI-Land!
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2994258]I guess you haven't really become very Asian then. One of the things I've learned living in asia, which I must admit is fantastic, is the ability to compartmentalize. [u]Asian men and Asian women compartmentalize their lives[/u]. [b]For many men and women they have a spouse they dearly love, would not leave, and will take care of, however they may have someone or many someone's that they screw[/b]. [u]The two are completely mutually exclusive[/u]. For many Asian folks there is a don't ask don't tell policy. One thing we westerners never understand is that it is quite often the space you give each other in a relationship that makes it last. For many here that are married and still screw others, the extracurricular activities amount to nothing more than riding a roller coaster. I really believe we westerners have the wrong expectation of relationships.[/QUOTE]I have not read a better post explaining how western values have no place in Thailand.
[QUOTE]There is very dark side in Thailand and it can be very evil.[/QUOTE]Once again another judgement based on western values.
[QUOTE]Thai men beat their women often. It is accepted. They scream after them and she obey . But if you raise your voice to your Thai girl. Oh my god. She will turn of and lose temper. And believe me they have temper.[/QUOTE]Why are you raising your voice to to a Thai person in the first place (especially your Thai Girls)? It sounds to me like the OP has emotional maturity issues.
Doesn't the OP realize that causes them to lose face? I have never had to raise my voice to any Thai person the entire time I have been posted up here (especially my Thai Girls). Everything I have ever had to deal with has been resolved using eye contact and a low but firm no, followed by departure from the scene. That's why you will never see a video of a security person knocking me on my ass like you see done to so many farangs (of a certain color) that get out of pocket.
[QUOTE]Why us?[/QUOTE]That is a good question.
[QUOTE=Allover;2953794]When Japanese and Korean guys are present, the rest of us have problems competing with them too.[/QUOTE]Is this a good answer?
[QUOTE]Cause they are not afraid of us Europeans or us or so called farangs- they don't respect us.[/QUOTE]The OP needs to speak for himself. Men who cannot hold frame. Men who's word means nothing. Men who do not have an attitude of abundance. Those are the men who do not get any respect. I have NEVER had a problem with Thai Girls not respecting me the entire time I've been posted up here. Treating someone like a human being shouldn't be a problem unless you are sociopathic.
[QUOTE]It is the money they want and only the money.[/QUOTE]I disagree with this completely. The only way you could think this is because that is all you give. If you treat another human being with respect. They will respect you even if is just a business transaction. Have you ever heard the phrase: [I]It was a pleasure doing business with you[/I]? I've run a business. I've made business deals. I did not say that to everyone. Some of my clients and people I dealt with were true [I]mother fuckers[/I]. But I did business with them anyway because I needed the money. How is that any different from any business dealings with anyone in the world?
[QUOTE]Anything else with love and bla bla forget it for your own safety.[/QUOTE]Love is a powerful thing. Do we control who we love? Or do we control our actions with who we love?
[QUOTE]Dont fall in love with any hookers there. They are full of shit. But charming yes and they play their role good. Together with their Thai man or bf . To rip you off as much as possible and as long time as possible.[/QUOTE]I feel sorry for the OP that he has such bad attitude about prostitutes in Thailand.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;3088144]Picture this scenario in Thailand: There is a non-descript building and venue located across the soi from a popular temple called Noi's Place. As you enter the door of Noi's Place you are asked for a 100 baht entrance fee. Then you are faced with a circular conveyor belt carrying twelve 18 year old ladies, laying naked and spread-eagle on that conveyor belt for your assessment of them. A manager approaches and answers any questions you might have about the sexual skills and specializes of each. No other entertainment, food or drinks are on sale in the place. You choose one young lady and, without exchanging a word, the two of you retreat to a room upstairs at Noi's Place, pay an additional 200 baht for the use of the room and after you have whatever style and amount of sex you and she agree to engage in you give your lady 2000 baht and leave Noi's Place a sexually satisfied and happy man.
Here's the reality; the Thai people in that neighborhood don't care what Noi and her ladies are doing or what her customers are doing on a moral point. From monks to the police, moms, dads, grandmothers, grandfathers, aunts, uncles, siblings, cousins, respected community leaders and other business owners, nobody gives a damn what is happening at Noi's Place or the consenting adults involved, their morals, the morals of anyone else in the neighborhood or Kingdom.
How do I know that? Aside from my decades of up close and personal contact with Thai people, being married to a Thai lady, years of engaging with her close family members who are well-educated, English-fluent, successful business owners with even uniformed police officers among them[/QUOTE][QUOTE]Los = land of scams[/QUOTE]Sorry to hear that you feel that way about Thailand. My experiences do not align at all with the OP's.
[QUOTE]If you having girl problems I feel bad for your son, I got 99 problems and a ***** ain't one. - [b]Jay Z[/b][/QUOTE]