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[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2027526]I'm not sure this is the right criteria when judging a lineup for the place. Lineup imo should be judged on how pretty the girls are solely on their looks and not based on whether or not a girl in interested or smiles at me or is available when I am there. Imo money should not be a factor when judging a girl's lineup as well. I wouldn't say that some beer bar has a better lineup than a top gogo bar because the beer bar girl costs 1000 and the gogo girl costs 3000. Just a difference on how we base what a good lineup means. I judge a good lineup based on looks regardless of any other factor.[/QUOTE]Sure I agree. Performance is irrelevant to line up comments. Sillies is relevant. Unavailability of a girl is relevant. No use looking at a girl that cannot be selected.
Price is partly relevant. I thought the Lord girls at 4800 were above average but not sufficiently good looking to pick them even if were only 3K. If the girl I liked most was only 3K I would have been happy to take her. At at least double that price, she was still not stunning enough.
If I had unlimited budget then price would cease to matter.
There was still little doubt that The Lord had the best line up.
However your point originally was are you going to get better than at Thermae. Until I find out how great the service is at the Lord, I don't know.
I thought standard of Emannuelle girls was not too far behind but the prices start lower. So worth a look. I could pick a girl there without feeling so much guilt.
I should have asked at all the places how much of the price was Farang surcharge. I think Emmanuelle has a varying surcharge depending on girl level. Perhaps less for body slide category.
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[QUOTE=GrandaddyPerp;2027555]Stereotypical bros = Stereotypical young Russians but with American and British accents.
Yeah, these places tend to require a bit of partying and game-playing in order to attract a lady and are not jealous GF or wife friendly because they like to take promo photos of guests and post them on their fb page. They can also be confusing because you will have a mix of FLers and easy-going ladies that will go home with you if they are into you and you show them a good time. To make it more confusing the FL often times will act like the non-P4P ladies and go along with you and only ask for money when they are ready to leave your room in the morning. Some will negotiate in the bar but the majority of these ladies seem to be the type that want to avoid being viewed as FLers so they will often times just take what you give them when they leave as long as its a fair amount (I've given them anywhere from 1000-3000). I have heard of some guys having to pay prices as high as 10,000 though but my guess is they just threw that number out there for a lady playing hard to get.[/QUOTE]I've picked up girls at Levels and Oskar's but have never been to Cest La Vie or Maggie Choos. I'm intrigued to hear FLs and semi-pros frequent those places too. Any more info you can share about picking up in those places?
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[QUOTE=Citizen;2027307]Sunday afternoon about 2.30 pm. Decided it was the time to pay my favorite place a visit. So again went strolling from Soi 24/1, again found some great talent outside can cam, was tempted to try however was again not stopping from going to snow white this time around. A few seconds later my eye caught another beauty sitting on the left hand this time. Still I felt snow white calling for me.
Reached there, about six girls sitting. Asked for ninja. Someone whom I have heard of greatly on this forum however never had the chance of being graced upon. She was booked already. Asked for Emmy. Whom I had a great session with last time. Apparently she has had an accident and has been out of the scene since the last one month and when she will return is not Known. Wishing her a speedy recovery as she has an absolute gem. So finally my eye caught someone who Seemed new. Goes by the name of cash. Later found out she is not really that new apparently she does not want her pics on the website. She was fair skinned. 24. About 5 ft 2. ,asked her if she would enjoy the Company of one of her friends, to which she responded positively. Chose candy (yes I know what you guys must be thinking. But I did not know her name to be candy before we reached the room). Anyway the next two hours were great with both the cuties, they had decent chemistry together. Apparently according to candy a threesome is very easy to go by as all SW girls rally get along. Two shots with a good massage in between. Showed the girls their website and asked for who else had been sitting downstairs. Apparently there was Nana who looks very different than her pics, and a few more whose names I don't remember now.
Anyway when later I walked down with both of them. I peeked again into the sitting area, the time now was about 5 and there were few more girls sitting in comparison to 3 pm when I entered. Cash was with me and told me the one sitting in yellow was ninja. On being called her name she instantly stood up with a big smile on her face, and now having looked at this petite darling I knew exactly why this sweet little thing was the most talked about in this thread. I exchanged my hellos and told her that I had heard great things about her from a few friends of mine, and promised here I will book her next time. Which I definitely will. I now plan to fly to Cambodia & Vietnam and will be back again later this week and will make assure I book ninja for a tete A tete. Also will give cam can a try and will keep all you folks posted. Till then adios amigos.[/QUOTE]Cash is a lot older than 24 and used to work at Bongkot. She's been around for years.
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[QUOTE=*****man;2027602]Cash is a lot older than 24 and used to work at Bongkot. She's been around for years.[/QUOTE]She started as April in Tulip about '08-'09, then to SW, Bongkot as a working manager, and now back to SW.
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[QUOTE=UncleVolodya;2027593]I've picked up girls at Levels and Oskar's but have never been to Cest La Vie or Maggie Choos. I'm intrigued to hear FLs and semi-pros frequent those places too. Any more info you can share about picking up in those places?[/QUOTE]My regular girl now, retired P4 P, certainly mentioned going to Ku Deh Tah (I believe previous name for Cest La Vie could be wrong) to party semi Hi So. She knows how to dress up stylish but very sexy. Probably would have taken guys that appealed to her, or may have just had fun and gone home alone sometimes, I haven't interviewed her about her exact attitude, however she is not or was a not a hooker that disliked sex. She believes in getting a good regular fuck. Certainly able to orgasm with customers or pickups if they perform right. Used to have a lot of BFs. Some would have been acquired in these clubs, no doubt. Some did not know she was also a hooker. That was secret.
Always makes me laugh when some guys believe hookers never enjoy it. She only became a hooker when she realised quite young that not only could she pick up guys for hot sex fun, but could make high money from it as well. There is no job spec that says, a girl must always dislike the work.
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[QUOTE=UncleVolodya;2027593]I've picked up girls at Levels and Oskar's but have never been to Cest La Vie or Maggie Choos. I'm intrigued to hear FLs and semi-pros frequent those places too. Any more info you can share about picking up in those places?[/QUOTE]Ce La Vie is a step above Levels and Oskars. It also has a consistent amount of ladies especially on the weekends. Maggie Choos is sort of a pre-game to Ce La Vi as some of the ladies will go there first and if they can't find a guy they usually head over to Ce La Vi.
I typically approach a lady or ladies that I find attractive. Normally the FLers will stand or sit near the bars. I will start out with a little bit of light chit chat and if they respond with any sort of enthusiasm then I will buy them a drink. If they aren't interested they will usually smile and give this stop hand gesture.
Most speak pretty good English in these places so banter is fairly easy. If you're not much for small talk or a bit on the serious side you may strike out as these girls are looking for fun first. If things go well enough to order up another round you're practically assured that she will go home with you. The straight up FLers will usually ask if you want sex when you order them another drink and at that point pricing can be negotiated but I've been playing this game for a couple of years now and this upfront business talk has only happened a couple of times. Note: Some of the ladies actually get offended if you ask them how much.
For the gentlemen that are 50+, you can have success in picking up ladies from these places but you have to present yourself accordingly and look like a person of means. Some of the most sophisticated looking FLers actually prefer more experienced men but you stand a better chance if you look put together and in decent shape. For example, I was at Ce La Vi and saw this stunning women, model-esque, with that old school Thai look, with flawless slim body, mocca skin, long silky black hair, etc. She was probably early 30's but put every other women to shame in the place that night. The kind of woman that screams 'really expensive but fuck it you only live once kind of hotness'. I knew right away that she was FLing but the crowd of young guys were seemingly way to intimidated to approach her. As I was about to ask her if she wanted a drink, a distinguished gentleman swooped rolls up with a bottle of champagne and prompts the lady to come to his VIP booth and just like that she was gone. Not saying that you have to have a VIP booth and bottles but at least look like you do.
The great thing about this scene is that it's quite small and if you frequent these places you will see the same people, especially the ladies so when I saw her again a couple of weeks later I didn't hesitate. She was actually less than I expected, expensive, but she was worth every baht.
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[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2027635]She started as April in Tulip about '08-'09, then to SW, Bongkot as a working manager, and now back to SW.[/QUOTE]Hmm thanks for the info goatscroat and *****man. It's amazing she really doesn't look that old. So if she started off in 08-09 which is almost 9 years and probably she was 18 at least at that time considering she was not [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord902][CodeWord902][/url] when she joined the trade. She is at least 27, doesn't look that old. I guess most Thai girls don't then what about someone say Nana who looks at least 35-38, what is her real age at least 40+. I am guessing.
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Dozo Massage
[QUOTE=TravelLucid;2027268]...A day later, whilst wondering through Sukhumvit 24/1. The ally with candy and angel massage, I noticed a place with the same design signage as dozomassage. So someone is branching out...
[/QUOTE]A few years ago, there used to be a massage shop called Dozo on Soi 24/1. If I remember correctly this location is now occupied by Dream Heaven. I have no idea about the management or connections of these places.
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Is Venus (new girl at Cherry) the Wawa that used to work at Mango? Never met her but I think to remember her picture.
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[QUOTE=GrandaddyPerp;2027660]
The great thing about this scene is that it's quite small and if you frequent these places you will see the same people, especially the ladies so when I saw her again a couple of weeks later I didn't hesitate. She was actually less than I expected, expensive, but she was worth every baht.[/QUOTE]I quite like this new intel on this board that rarely sees anything new. Would you mind saying how much "expensive" is?
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[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2027635]She started as April in Tulip about '08-'09, then to SW, Bongkot as a working manager, and now back to SW.[/QUOTE]I think she is awesome and have submitted some reviews about her.
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[QUOTE=Mjen1970;2027963]I think she is awesome and have submitted some reviews about her.[/QUOTE]Looking for some new talent on Saturday so might pop into snow white and try her out.
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[QUOTE=Citizen;2027710]Hmm thanks for the info goatscroat and *****man. It's amazing she really doesn't look that old. So if she started off in 08-09 which is almost 9 years and probably she was 18 at least at that time considering she was not [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord902][CodeWord902][/url] when she joined the trade. She is at least 27, doesn't look that old. I guess most Thai girls don't then what about someone say Nana who looks at least 35-38, what is her real age at least 40+. I am guessing.[/QUOTE]Cash is 31 and looks every bit of it to me. Nana is 40 plus and looks it as well. Maybe they hide it well with their makeup?
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[QUOTE=Crazy4Thai;2027956]I quite like this new intel on this board that rarely sees anything new. Would you mind saying how much "expensive" is?[/QUOTE]I gave her 5,000 in the morning for her time and she was happy with that. There was another 5,000 for drinks spent throughout the night but the experience seems more natural than say buying LDs at a bar in Nana or Soi Cowboy. We danced a bit, chatted a lot. Even though we knew how the night would end, she and others in these venues still do this thing where they slowly and methodically become more physical as the night progresses. First it starts with playful eye contact, then the seemingly unintentional touching of your knees and hands, subtle biting and licking of the lips, and twisting of the ends of their hair as they converse and laugh. By the time we hit the elevator on the way out we were DFKing on the lift down.
I rushed her to my place which isn't far and we got in our first session. She was tipsy but provided a very nice GFE with no real hang ups. A lady like this won't be as skilled as some of the more turnstyle pros but the combination of physical beauty and more seemingly genuine approach makes it well worth it to me.
We chilled for a few minutes afterwards and could have just fallen asleep but we both were still not done having fun so we headed out to Sing Sing Theater, another upscale lounge along the lines of Maggie Choos. If you're a gamer and wanting to push your luck with trying to hookup using just your skills then give this place a go. A lot of editorial models both Thai and international hang out there on various nights.
One of her friends was there, another 30-something beauty but with a bit more plastic. I bought her a couple of drinks as well (part of the costs above) in the hopes that a threesome might be achievable but the friend was actually waiting for her date who ended up joining us. It was all good fun and we closed out the partying at around 3 am. Once we got back at my place, we showed together and she gave me a nice BBBJ nightcap and we passed out.
One thing I will leave you with is that I am a fairly well-mannered and a very respectful guy when meeting women in general. From time to time I do like to get a bit dirty so I'll visit the MPs but when I am meeting women at places as described above and below I keep it classy, don't make an issue about the money, and put a bit of focus on them. I think that goes a long way in getting the most out of these types of experiences.
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[QUOTE=Zauberfee;2024686]I can recommend Savanna Massage ([URL]http://savannamassagebangkok.com/[/URL]) at Udom Suk 7. A little bit pricier and a rather small lineup but I enjoyed my trips there.
Another good venue for your preferences is Arin Spa at Suphaphong 3 Alley, Lane 8 in Bangna near Seacon Square[/QUOTE]Udom Suk through to Bearing BTS is the Bang Na region (after that Samut Prakan), so Seacon is a bit out (2 km out) of Bang Na. So Arin Spa would be in the Khet (sounds like Kate) (Bangkok District) of Prawet (not exactly well known LOL). Just outside of Phra Khanong district which I am in. Traffic is bad so I usually take motorcycle through back Sois (Sukhumvit Soi 101/1) to get to Seacon shopping centre, starting from near BTS line. Taxi can be bad news at certain times of day (most of the time). There are very limited bridges crossing the canal between Phra Khanong and Prawet districts.
On a tangent:
I hate it when change BTS lines at Siam BTS station and the different BTS lines have all been extended and lines have changed names. Which F'ing line do I need to take? LOL I used to need the Bearing line but its now called the Samrong line. Soon the Line will change name again and will be again confused. Would have been nice to call it the Sukhumvit Line or Sukhumvit-Samrong line would be okay.