Pattaya Reports

[QUOTE=Mogwai;1633273]That's pathetic man. I know you are from the USA but you could as well be Indian.
It's YOU who wants the ST room so give that 100 to the girl.

Oh well, why should I waste my time on a narcist.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Mouse1;1633278]All credit to Mr Enternational for his many contributions to the forum. HE is however a Cheap Charlie![/QUOTE]Now, now gentlemen, let's not be jealous. Anyone familiar with Mr. E's posts knows that his girls are eager to go with him for what HE pays and they keep coming back for more. Obviously, HE turns them on and they're happy to be with him. I would call him frugal; not a cheap Charlie. Believe it or not but girls respect that in a man.

I don't pay my regulars more than 500 baht for ST either and they keep calling me again and again wanting to go see me. I never have to call them. We always have fun while they're with me and they're happy with the money. Remember that 500 Baht for 30 minutes work is good money for them. The fact that they can get more from the suckers makes no difference to me.

Oh, yeah, and HE's right about the small hole in the wall massage joints too. Most of the girls will ask for more but settle on 200 baht for a standard HJ. So why pay more? It's easy money for them.

[QUOTE=Tomjackin;1633288]Mr. E. may be a Cheap Charlie, but HE provides great information for world wide travelers, such as myself. Central / South America, Asia, and so forth. I have known him for a while and know that his information is correct on all topics.[/QUOTE]Another Mr. E fan as well. It's one thing being a 2 week millionaire visiting Pattaya, but when you live here full time it's a different ball game. Mr. E's is one of the few posters I follow regularly as I also live here permanently. Any chance of getting info on a few of the 100 baht ST rooms (I know P.S. Guesthouse) would be appreciated.

[QUOTE=Daddy07;1633295]Now, now gentlemen, let's not be jealous. Anyone familiar with Mr. E's posts knows that his girls are eager to go with him for what HE pays and they keep coming back for more. Obviously, HE turns them on and they're happy to be with him. I would call him frugal; not a cheap Charlie. Believe it or not but girls respect that in a man.

I don't pay my regulars more than 500 baht for ST either and they keep calling me again and again wanting to go see me. I never have to call them. We always have fun while they're with me and they're happy with the money. Remember that 500 Baht for 30 minutes work is good money for them. The fact that they can get more from the suckers makes no difference to me.

Oh, yeah, and HE's right about the small hole in the wall massage joints too. Most of the girls will ask for more but settle on 200 baht for a standard HJ. So why pay more? It's easy money for them.[/QUOTE]No criticism of Mr E intended. If HE can get away with paying that then that is fine. Others such as myself pay more because we perhaps lack his charm, looks or determination.

Mr. E,

I think you are doing a fantastic job of defining what the market truly is and where the value really lies (including loads of personal charm to which girls do not usually say NO). Too bad others can't figure it out.

Are you fazed by the epithet (and stereotype) some members have applied to you? I think not ;)

[QUOTE=ActionOriented;1633344]Mr. E,

I think you are doing a fantastic job of defining what the market truly is and where the value really lies (including loads of personal charm to which girls do not usually say NO). Too bad others can't figure it out.

Are you fazed by the epithet (and stereotype) some members have applied to you? I think not ;)[/QUOTE]LOL. You know me better than that. Remember me licking up the side of that girl's face in Alcatraz? Remember PL99 telling them they were not getting a barfine out of him? What did she do? Gave him her number so she could come over when she was not working. I do this too much to pass out money like some guys do. When you are doing it two weeks / year then you don't have to be so careful how you spend money. But when you are doing it constantly, you would soon go broke paying 700 baht bar fines and unlimited lady drinks and giving girls 2500 or 3000 baht / day. Funny how there are never complaints from the girls and they keep coming back. You saw for yourself that it is hard to beat them off. The girl in Mixx, I had already fucked her friend last month. She told me not to tell her friend that she came with me because she is crazy and would be angry. Then she kept calling me trying to come back everyday.

I could not get my bearings straight a couple of months ago in India because I had not been there in about 8 years, but AO set me on the right path. Thanks for that, man.

[QUOTE=Mr E;1633383]LOL. You know me better than that. Remember me licking up the side of that girl's face in Alcatraz? [/QUOTE]Yes I remember, and to clarify, I was envious. LOL.

[QUOTE=Mr E;1633383] Remember PL99 telling them they were not getting a barfine out of him? What did she do? Gave him her number so she could come over when she was not working. I do this too much to pass out money like some guys do. When you are doing it two weeks / year then you don't have to be so careful how you spend money. But when you are doing it constantly, you would soon go broke paying 700 baht bar fines and unlimited lady drinks and giving girls 2500 or 3000 baht / day. Funny how there are never complaints from the girls and they keep coming back. You saw for yourself that it is hard to beat them off. The girl in Mixx, I had already fucked her friend last month. She told me not to tell her friend that she came with me because she is crazy and would be angry. Then she kept calling me trying to come back everyday.[/QUOTE]The girls go wild and want to get into the sack with you both ASAP was my take away from the evening. You need a bigger stick to beat of the ladies :D

PL99 played around a fair bit with the Alcatraz girl though. I am sure he would never bar fine her, wonder if after trading numbers the girl ended up in his room.

[QUOTE=Mr E;1633383]I could not get my bearings straight a couple of months ago in India because I had not been there in about 8 years, but AO set me on the right path. Thanks for that, man.[/QUOTE]Happy to help, next time instead of Mumbai make a trip to New Delhi, I assure you that it will be a lot more fun!!

[QUOTE=Mouse1;1633276]Sorry, but you are missing the point. There is no 'should' about it. It's the market. A girl in a classy massage parlour may charge 1000 Bht for a HJ because she can. Her customers may be family guys on holiday who have slipped out for a 'legit' massage while the wife sleeps, or wealthy business men who wouldn't dream of cruising beach road. There is a market for everyone in Pattaya and you just have to find your niche. I would never pay for any kind of sex in a semi-legit massage parlour personally.[/QUOTE]I understood what was written and I disagreed. My opinion is very different for a few reasons. I have my own idea of how much a HJ is worth irregardless of whether its in a legit place, semi-legit, or any other place. If I go get a massage, I only want an actual massage. Only once in Bangkok I did something more. I got a foot massage at a semi-legit place. After that, I took a younger / prettier girl upstairs for an oil massage. I was feeling good and a little horny so I ended up getting FS for 1000. That was one occasion in 14 trips.

But as was stated in the earlier post by Breadman, the girl wanted 1000 baht for a HJ and I presume HE didn't take the offer. IMO 300-500 would be ok. Personally, I would never give 1000 for just a HJ. I think that's too much for a hand shake.

[QUOTE=PipeLayer99;1633455]I understood what was written and I disagreed. My opinion is very different for a few reasons. I have my own idea of how much a HJ is worth irregardless of whether its in a legit place, semi-legit, or any other place. If I go get a massage, I only want an actual massage. Only once in Bangkok I did something more. I got a foot massage at a semi-legit place. After that, I took a younger / prettier girl upstairs for an oil massage. I was feeling good and a little horny so I ended up getting FS for 1000. That was one occasion in 14 trips.

But as was stated in the earlier post by Breadman, the girl wanted 1000 baht for a HJ and I presume HE didn't take the offer. IMO 300-500 would be ok. Personally, I would never give 1000 for just a HJ. I think that's too much for a hand shake.[/QUOTE]It is a "willing buyer. Willing seller" market, not a government run economy with fixed prices.

You can think as much as you want about the price of a HJ, unless you find a girl who agrees with your thinking you will be down to shake your own hand. ;)

[QUOTE=ActionOriented;1633431] .....
The girls go wild and want to get into the sack with you both ASAP was my take away from the evening. You need a bigger stick to beat of the ladies :D

PL99 played around a fair bit with the Alcatraz girl though. I am sure he would never bar fine her, wonder if after trading numbers the girl ended up in his room. [/QUOTE]I haven't gotten around to that girl yet. The regulars are keeping me busy. .

As for bar fines, I don't see any value in paying it. There are just too many girls available. I like to take things slow and look for the ones I like (and the ones willing to come over after work). Sometimes the girls agree to come after work and other times they don't. When they pass on the offer, I just keep going. I know there's going to be another beautiful one along the way.

[QUOTE=Daddy07;1633295]Now, now gentlemen, let's not be jealous. Anyone familiar with Mr. E's posts knows that his girls are eager to go with him for what HE pays and they keep coming back for more. Obviously, HE turns them on and they're happy to be with him. I would call him frugal; not a cheap Charlie. Believe it or not but girls respect that in a man.

I don't pay my regulars more than 500 baht for ST either and they keep calling me again and again wanting to go see me. I never have to call them. We always have fun while they're with me and they're happy with the money. Remember that 500 Baht for 30 minutes work is good money for them. The fact that they can get more from the suckers makes no difference to me.

Oh, yeah, and HE's right about the small hole in the wall massage joints too. Most of the girls will ask for more but settle on 200 baht for a standard HJ. So why pay more? It's easy money for them.[/QUOTE]I totally agree.
My man Mr. E has his own MO and it works. In the past, I remember paying some bar fines. I did it more often in the first two years. But then after hanging out with him and gaining more experience in Thailand my thoughts on the subject changed. I haven't paid a bar fine in about a year.

[QUOTE=PipeLayer99;1633570] I haven't paid a bar fine in about a year.[/QUOTE]Do you have to get her phone number surreptitiously, or do you just hand out your card with your number on it. I suspect the establishment / management may have a problem with bypassing the barfine.

[QUOTE=ConquerorVal;1633574]Do you have to get her phone number surreptitiously, or do you just hand out your card with your number on it. I suspect the establishment / management may have a problem with bypassing the barfine.[/QUOTE]If I like the girl I just ask for her number. If she says ok, I hand her my phone and let her call. If she says she can not do it then I leave it up to her. I don't want her getting into trouble for that. There have been a couple of times where the girl has gone to the bathroom or changing area and comes back with her number on a piece of paper. On several occasions, I have run into the same girls after work. Some of them that didn't get barfined go out party with friends or they go to the club to find that special man.

[QUOTE=PipeLayer99;1633565]I haven't gotten around to that girl yet. The regulars are keeping me busy. .

As for bar fines, I don't see any value in paying it. There are just too many girls available. I like to take things slow and look for the ones I like (and the ones willing to come over after work). Sometimes the girls agree to come after work and other times they don't. When they pass on the offer, I just keep going. I know there's going to be another beautiful one along the way.[/QUOTE]Ahh, the story with you and your regularsis always exciting. I do hope you will report some new hotties soon (and go check out the massage parlors I told you about, 5 minutes from where you stay, also FS on the premises will cost you between 500-700 baht). On a side note, I am still drooling over the photos of the girl with a bubble butt that you shared.

Your observations re bar fines are spot on. IMHO bar fining is for tourists, not for those who have the patience to play the long game.

[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1633531]It is a "willing buyer. Willing seller" market, not a government run economy with fixed prices.

You can think as much as you want about the price of a HJ, unless you find a girl who agrees with your thinking you will be down to shake your own hand. ;)[/QUOTE]thank you. My point exactly but more succinctly put.

I remember a few years back some newbie on this forum ranting about the price of FS given the high ratio of girls to guys in Pattaya, saying 'Haven't they heard about the Law of Supply and Demand?' LOL.

I sat next to an Indian gentleman on a flight a couple of years back as he bragged about 'getting two escort girls back to his room for 10,000 bht'. But He only wanted a HJ... He thought that was a great deal...

[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1633531] ...
You can think as much as you want about the price of a HJ, unless you find a girl who agrees with your thinking you will be down to shake your own hand. ;)[/QUOTE]I wouldn't consider a HJ at any price. The input on suggested price was provided to answer another member's question. I can't imagine anyone coming here and not finding a lady to agree with their thinking. :-)