Bogota Reports

[QUOTE=TravisBickle3;2990233]So, it's been a few years since I've visited the SF street scene in Bogot (2019). I have quite a lot of experience in Colombia in various cities, and I can count on one hand the number of times a girl has demanded payment upfront. Two of these were with Vennies in Centro Medelland, and I was able to convince them that this wasn't my first rodeo and to cut the crap, so to speak. However, I just visited SF again a few days ago and found a cute Vennie SG. Once in the room, she demands payment first. I give her the usual speech about how I've never paid first and to stop wasting time, yadda yadda. Only this time, she looked genuinely confused that I wouldn't pay first, and she wouldn't budge on her demand for money upfront. So I walked out, so annoyed I didn't even feel like fucking anymore, and lost my $3 for the hotel.

So my question is: Have things really changed so much in SF that one must pay first for SGs? Or was this just an oddly stubborn Vennie I had the bad luck to encounter?[/QUOTE]I've always paid first. I always thought that was the norm. There are a lot of sketchy guys that don't have the money. Makes the girls feel better. I also recognize that yes you're much more likely to get service issues if you pay first. I've had girls that refuse to take their tops off. Refuse to let you touch them. Just pain in the ass. So maybe you're on to something. I'd like to hear woodman's opinion on this.

[QUOTE=TravisBickle3;2990233]So my question is: Have things really changed so much in SF that one must pay first for SGs? Or was this just an oddly stubborn Vennie I had the bad luck to encounter?[/QUOTE]I only pay first when I give the girl a 50 K bill to pay for the room, then I just let her keep the change as her payment.

[QUOTE=Kazeu;2990420]I've always paid first. I always thought that was the norm. There are a lot of sketchy guys that don't have the money. Makes the girls feel better. I also recognize that yes you're much more likely to get service issues if you pay first. I've had girls that refuse to take their tops off. Refuse to let you touch them. Just pain in the ass. So maybe you're on to something. I'd like to hear woodman's opinion on this.[/QUOTE]I think that you have to pick your hoes wisely and if you try to do post pay you will not get 90%+ of the girls you want-- When I say pick wisely I mean what is the mood of the girl? Can you have a conversation with her. Use your spidey sence-- Some guys have problems with this kinda thing-.

Fortunatly I have a stable of girls that are reliable -- I always love getting with a new girl but I worry about bad service like everyone else. I always try to see what the girl like and make an educated guess.

Good Luck.

Went to Troya and it was ok-- maybe 7-9+ girls a few nice. We went to Venus and there were 5-6 girls and 3-5 guys and you really don't expect to see a Super Hot girl dancing (7+) in an empty club*-- a really hot 20 yr old Venezolana with big double the size boobs. Pretty face slim. Nice ass -- Nice attitude-- BBBJ and Great Attitude 100 mil.

Saturday was much better at least 800%+ more girls. Definately many Stunners in the clubs--*Get to Santa Fe and Say Hey Hey Hey!

[QUOTE=Woodman09;2990508]Went to Troya and it was ok-- maybe 7-9+ girls a few nice. We went to Venus and there were 5-6 girls and 3-5 guys and you really don't expect to see a Super Hot girl dancing (7+) in an empty club*-- a really hot 20 yr old Venezolana with big double the size boobs. Pretty face slim. Nice ass -- Nice attitude-- BBBJ and Great Attitude 100 mil.

Saturday was much better at least 800%+ more girls. Definately many Stunners in the clubs--*Get to Santa Fe and Say Hey Hey Hey![/QUOTE]Bringing my friend with me and going to spend some time in sf. But also working some girls from seeking. I wanted to try some prepaid from escorts sites. I will post my reviews once it all shakes out. And you're right about feeling the girls out and making sure they are cool or in a good mood. My Spanish is limited abut you get a vibe.

[QUOTE=MadNasty;2990569]Bringing my friend with me and going to spend some time in sf. But also working some girls from seeking. I wanted to try some prepaid from escorts sites. I will post my reviews once it all shakes out. And you're right about feeling the girls out and making sure they are cool or in a good mood. My Spanish is limited abut you get a vibe.[/QUOTE]You should try the Pimsleur Spanish -- it's a set of 90 MP3 lessons in 3 levels, Great self study -- You can find it online in a bit torrent.

[QUOTE=Kazeu;2990420]I've always paid first. I always thought that was the norm. There are a lot of sketchy guys that don't have the money. Makes the girls feel better. I also recognize that yes you're much more likely to get service issues if you pay first. I've had girls that refuse to take their tops off. Refuse to let you touch them. Just pain in the ass. So maybe you're on to something. I'd like to hear woodman's opinion on this.[/QUOTE]Some of you guys are not doing any kind of vetting before you take these chicas. There's a process that will minimize disappointments.

[QUOTE=MongerHunger;2990630]Some of you guys are not doing any kind of vetting before you take these chicas. There's a process that will minimize disappointments.[/QUOTE]I usually try man. I don't go to Santa Fe as much as I used to. The last time I forgot the routine and got roasted. I think I was out of practice. Paid too much cause I was too excited, didn't really interview her, just asked her how much. Got to the room and she wanted 20 k more to take her top off. Pain in the ass when it got down to fucking. Kept closing her legs and wouldn't let me really get in there. Initially refused to do doggy. Only reluctantly let me do her doggie style after arguing with her for 5 minutes which killed my hard on. Waste of 90 k. Paid 60 to the girl. 10 k for the room and 20 k for the top. It was slim pickings that day in Santa Fe.

[QUOTE=Woodman09;2990501]I think that you have to pick your hoes wisely and if you try to do post pay you will not get 90%+ of the girls you want-- When I say pick wisely I mean what is the mood of the girl? Can you have a conversation with her. Use your spidey sence-- Some guys have problems with this kinda thing-.

Fortunatly I have a stable of girls that are reliable -- I always love getting with a new girl but I worry about bad service like everyone else. I always try to see what the girl like and make an educated guess.

Good Luck.[/QUOTE]Yea this what I thought. Pay first is pretty normal. I've had times where a girl didn't ask me for payment until the end, but that's rare. You kind of just have to accept that you're going to get some bad chicks in santa fe every once in a while.

Upfront payment is a no-no. If a good session happens after upfront payment that is very good luck.

[QUOTE=HumbleHal;2990297]I always tell them no. "You can leave". "Bye".

You can always find another willing hoe.

They will try to play their assortment of tricks on you if you pay them first. You can never win with this type of professional hoe. You either establish control from the beginning or you are their victim.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MongerHunger;2990630]Some of you guys are not doing any kind of vetting before you take these chicas. There's a process that will minimize disappointments.[/QUOTE]No vetting at all. I walk up and ask how much and say let's go. Never any disappointments.

Please check out the places I went to my last trip and let me know if I missed any clubs or spas.

Clubs in the Zona de Tolerancia:

Club: Fiebre.

Club: Atonis.

Club: Troya.

Club: Paisias.

Club: Venus.

Club: Texas.

Club: Loto.

The next 7 clubs were scattered throughout the city. Many of them were located in Chapinero.

Club: Forty Nine.

Club: Bar Coche.

Club: Pussy House.

Club: Divas VIP.

Club: Whiskeria Show Linares.

Club: Lido.

Club: Lancaster Paris.

Club: Tantras.

Spas: Tantra.

Also, I conducted more research and I found a few more places:

Sanram club.

Sensual club.

Sixty nine bar.

Fercho's VIP.

Tronos.

California Club.

Mora Mora.

Bahia Safary.

Happy Night.

Linares Punto 48.

Does anyone have any thoughts or experiences with any of the above places?

Thanks everyone for their help and inputs!

[QUOTE=TomJackin;2991056]Please check out the places I went to my last trip and let me know if I missed any clubs or spas.

Clubs in the Zona de Tolerancia:

Club: Fiebre.

Club: Atonis.

Club: Troya.

Club: Paisias.

Club: Venus.

Club: Texas.

Club: Loto.

The next 7 clubs were scattered throughout the city. Many of them were located in Chapinero.

Club: Forty Nine.

Club: Bar Coche.

Club: Pussy House.

Club: Divas VIP.

Club: Whiskeria Show Linares.

Club: Lido.

Club: Lancaster Paris.

Club: Tantras.

Spas: Tantra.

Also, I conducted more research and I found a few more places:

Sanram club.

Sensual club.

Sixty nine bar.

Fercho's VIP.

Tronos.

California Club.

Mora Mora.

Bahia Safary.

Happy Night.

Linares Punto 48.

Does anyone have any thoughts or experiences with any of the above places?

Thanks everyone for their help and inputs![/QUOTE]When have you been? I Thouht the club 49 was closed 3 or 4 years ago, did not survive to the scamedic.

Also, all clubs with stunner girls are now private in Bogota. You need to be in the the Know to get adresses and invitation. Pretty all the other club open to the public joe have average girls, no stunner.

[QUOTE=MongerHunger;2990630]Some of you guys are not doing any kind of vetting before you take these chicas. There's a process that will minimize disappointments.[/QUOTE]How many hoes will tell you the truth? When one vettes someone they do a complete background investigation, like when a vice president gets selected. FBI investigation and friends are interviewed. You have limited time to interrogate a hoe. And they will all lie to get your cheese, like a rat in a maze.

Its only later when they tell you they have to go now because their baby needs milk, or their mother is in the hospital. LOL.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2990733]Upfront payment is a no-no. If a good session happens after upfront payment that is very good luck.[/QUOTE]These are wise words, if you pre-pay and you don't get burned you just had a very lucky day.

I've never ever pre-paid, I can remember a few of times they demand money after I already mentioned outside, "I only pay when we finish", and I even made them acknowledge they heard me.

I just walk out, you lose a couple pesos for the room, oh well, NEXT.

Most times I yell something to the cashier like she's a worthless scammer etc.

When you pre-pay them you're giving them ALL your power, what are you going to do when you get a horrible session like Kazeu.

The most I'm ever losing is the room fee.