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Greetings my fellow mongeres,

I can't believe that someone else posted this rite before I was thinking about doing it. Robby looks like we're on the same page. I'm actually a senior in a US University and I am planning a study abroad experience for fall of 2010. I have my University already picked out in Santiago, contacts academic contacts established, " funding" in progress, my "novia (used loosely-I don't send her money but she claims to be true and faithful-whatever I'm not) is going to help me find a place close to school for about $200-250 US per month. Unfortunately, she said it will more than likely be unfurnished. The first time I visited the DR I fell in love with the country and I still feel this way close to 10 yrs later so, I am confident about living there.

Ok here we go questions. The longest that I have stayed in the DR has been a couple of days shy of a month; my educational trip is planned for no less than 1 year. I understand that I have visa issues that I need to work out which I heard is not difficult to handle. My "novia told me that many of the chicas are going to be all over me because I'm American and they think I'm the ticket out, so she knows I'm going to be banging any "grouppies"

(If any) in my place. I told her that I like living alone but, she will be welcome from time to time. Anyone think she's gonna have me set up or something crazy like that, like my good friend thinks? I have been told that Santiago is an extremely small town and people know each other and they talk/gossip incessantly. So, it won't be long before whichever chica I'm giving it to will have contact with my "novia".

Also, I was reading about the requirements for applying for Dominican citizenship (dual citizenship), residency, etc. I was wondering would this be good for me. I'm looking to visit the DR for the rest of my life and even retire there when the time is right, open a business and buy property. I'm a Semi-young guy looking at the big picture.

Also, I plan to have a job while attending school in the DR. I was told that I will not have a problem, namely, English speakers are highly desired by employers and since I already speak Spanish (not perfectly-that's the reason for trip.). I plan to do very little mongering (well that's the plan.) while on this trip but I might make it up to Sosua a couple of times for some fun.

Thanks all for your comments and advise?

Thank you for your opinion and advise.

Problem with having the same apartment for a year, is that any chicas you date, will know where to find you. Hence any chica who thinks you are her novio, can come knocking on your door day or night. Santiago is a fairly large place, it is spread out into various neighborhoods. You can juggle a couple of chicas at the same time, but eventually you might get busted by one or two.

Some rich folks in Santiago, you'll see some very expensive cars and in some bars, some guys have no problem buying bottle after bottle of champagne.

Being a college student, you'll meet plenty of college babes. Weekends are party time in Santiago, seems everyone is out. The Cabanas, Saturday night are packed.

If I was in your shoes, I would probably do it.

[QUOTE=Blk Big Bootyluv]Greetings my fellow mongeres,

I can't believe that someone else posted this rite before I was thinking about doing it. Robby looks like we're on the same page. I'm actually a senior in a US University and I am planning a study abroad experience for fall of 2010. I have my University already picked out in Santiago, contacts academic contacts established, " funding" in progress, my "novia (used loosely-I don't send her money but she claims to be true and faithful-whatever I'm not) is going to help me find a place close to school for about $200-250 US per month. Unfortunately, she said it will more than likely be unfurnished. The first time I visited the DR I fell in love with the country and I still feel this way close to 10 yrs later so, I am confident about living there.

Ok here we go questions. The longest that I have stayed in the DR has been a couple of days shy of a month; my educational trip is planned for no less than 1 year. I understand that I have visa issues that I need to work out which I heard is not difficult to handle. My "novia told me that many of the chicas are going to be all over me because I'm American and they think I'm the ticket out, so she knows I'm going to be banging any "grouppies"

(If any) in my place. I told her that I like living alone but, she will be welcome from time to time. Anyone think she's gonna have me set up or something crazy like that, like my good friend thinks? I have been told that Santiago is an extremely small town and people know each other and they talk/gossip incessantly. So, it won't be long before whichever chica I'm giving it to will have contact with my "novia".

Also, I was reading about the requirements for applying for Dominican citizenship (dual citizenship), residency, etc. I was wondering would this be good for me. I'm looking to visit the DR for the rest of my life and even retire there when the time is right, open a business and buy property. I'm a Semi-young guy looking at the big picture.

Also, I plan to have a job while attending school in the DR. I was told that I will not have a problem, namely, English speakers are highly desired by employers and since I already speak Spanish (not perfectly-that's the reason for trip.). I plan to do very little mongering (well that's the plan.) while on this trip but I might make it up to Sosua a couple of times for some fun.

Thanks all for your comments and advise?

Thank you for your opinion and advise.[/QUOTE]

Hola,

I am going back to SD on Nov 5-9th. Constitution Day is the on Monday the 9th.
Does the Monday holiday affect Saturday or Sunday night for Chica action in SD? I was in SD during the election weekend it was dead Sat, and Sun.
Can anyone know the answer?
Thanks in advance.
J

Here's my situation, I'm a diver and I have a weeks vacation to burn before thanksgiving. Travel without the ball n chain is becoming more difficult however this trip I will be solo. I need to do some diving to cover myself but my true intent on this trip is to sample some of the local talent. I know nothing about DR and this will be my 1st visit. My situation requires that I make a quick decision. BB's from what I've read is what I'm looking for. I can get in a couple of dives for my cover and engage in some easily accessible talent from the start.

Any help or info would be greatly appreciated

You know what you are right. initially, I thought about keeping a place for a few months and then getting another apartment but, changed my mind when I heard that I'll receive a better deal from the property owner if I stayed with one particular apartment for the entire duration of my trip. But, having heard your opinion I think it might be good to reasses my contentment with the apartment on a quarterly basis.

Thanks

[QUOTE=Jaosousa]Problem with having the same apartment for a year, is that any chicas you date, will know where to find you. Hence any chica who thinks you are her novio, can come knocking on your door day or night. Santiago is a fairly large place, it is spread out into various neighborhoods. You can juggle a couple of chicas at the same time, but eventually you might get busted by one or two.

Some rich folks in Santiago, you'll see some very expensive cars and in some bars, some guys have no problem buying bottle after bottle of champagne.

Being a college student, you'll meet plenty of college babes. Weekends are party time in Santiago, seems everyone is out. The Cabanas, Saturday night are packed.

If I was in your shoes, I would probably do it.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Blk Big Bootyluv]You know what you are right. initially, I thought about keeping a place for a few months and then getting another apartment but, changed my mind when I heard that I'll receive a better deal from the property owner if I stayed with one particular apartment for the entire duration of my trip. But, having heard your opinion I think it might be good to reasses my contentment with the apartment on a quarterly basis.

Thanks[/QUOTE]I as you know have a residence on the north coast and I never take chics there. I don't need my neighbors knowing my biz, plus I don't need crazy chics dropping by. Your girl is not going to like you sharing her dick and pesos with other chics. Santiago has plenty of girls. I've seen how girls gravitate to you, even my girls that youve met still ask about you. I always like to have an escape place where I can be left the fuck alone. As nice as it would initially sound, having beautiful girls stopping by daily to fuck you silly, will eventually effect your studies. When you need to play sosua is only around the corner. I would slow play the santiago situation, focus on school only while getting acclimated to the culture. You being the new guy in Santiago all eyes are on you. When the girls see that your serious about your studies, that will elevate your talent pool above that of the average monger. But when you get acclimated I would gladly visit to fuck all the puntas you jumped over. What are friends for.

[QUOTE=Blk Big Bootyluv]

Also, I was reading about the requirements for applying for Dominican citizenship (dual citizenship), residency, etc. I was wondering would this be good for me. I'm looking to visit the DR for the rest of my life and even retire there when the time is right, open a business and buy property. I'm a Semi-young guy looking at the big picture.

Also, I plan to have a job while attending school in the DR. I was told that I will not have a problem, namely, English speakers are highly desired by employers and since I already speak Spanish (not perfectly-that's the reason for trip.). I plan to do very little mongering (well that's the plan.) while on this trip but I might make it up to Sosua a couple of times for some fun.

Thanks all for your comments and advise?

Thank you for your opinion and advise.[/QUOTE]


Check out DR1 dot com for a forum about visas/residency/jobs etc.

Jobs are very difficult to get and pay very poorly. English/Spanish speaking will help you get a few jobs - like call centers, but they pay well below the US minimum wage. A white collar Dominican with a good job - like a Bank branch manager, might make 35,000 pesos a month or about $12,000 US a year and the only way a gringo will make US style wages are is if they are transferred in from abroad. That after all is why you are being treated like a rock star by all these chicas. Just the fact that you are an American who can afford to travel here makes you comparatively a rich man. Don't count on making any money while here unless you have an internet business or investments - you are not going to make much "working" in the DR, especially while going to school and mongering at the same time.

I think you'd have lots of great opportunities with student chicas at a university in Santiago. Of course they will all know about each other almost instantly. Years ago this would have taken a few days but now they have smart phones and facebook and twitter. Preserving some flexibility on where you live is not a bad idea.

[QUOTE=Puerto La Cruz]I would recommend Colombia or Venezuela for learning a more sophisticated level of Spanish. Dominicans, as all Spanish speaking countries, have their own slang and accents, particularly the "swollowing of the s" when speaking. Many times with the colloquial Dominican Spanish, they do not pronounce there "s" leaving you wondering if they are speaking in singular or plural. I have traveled throughout Latin America and by far the most expressive speakers of Spanish that I have enountered were Colombian or Venezuelan, perhaps because they seem to speak more clearly and without as much stucatto. To me the worst speakers are Dominican[/QUOTE]
What you are calling colloquial Dominican Spanish most people would call illiteracy. From a professional standpoint it can be compared to the general use of Ebonics by Black Americans. Don't get all bent out of shape because I am a Black American myself. But being a linguist I can tell you that there is a difference between knowing formal and informal language, whether written or spoken, and when and with whom to use each. Most Dominicans who speak in the colloquialisms that you are speaking of are not educated and do not know formal written or spoken Spanish. You can especially tell this by their writing as well. They will write 'b' when the letter should be 'v' or leave 'h's off the beginning of words. The same as you would find in the hood or on the block in the U.S., they can not switch between the standard and slang (as I can do with Standard Written/Spoken English and Ebonics) because they only know the one thoroughly. You are correct to recommend to the brother Colombia or Venezuela. Mexico City and San Jose, Costa Rica will do as well. But the DR is not the place to go to learn Standard or "Proper" Spanish.
[QUOTE=Blk Big Bootyluv]I'm actually a senior in a US University and I am planning a study abroad experience for fall of 2010. I have my University already picked out in Santiago, contacts academic contacts established, " funding" in progress, my "novia (used loosely-I don't send her money but she claims to be true and faithful-whatever I'm not) is going to help me find a place close to school for about $200-250 US per month.

my educational trip is planned for no less than 1 year. I understand that I have visa issues that I need to work out which I heard is not difficult to handle.[/QUOTE]
I don't know your situation, but I did study abroads in undergrad as well as grad school (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil, Buenos Aires, Argentina, Johannesburg, South Africa, and Toulouse, France). Usually a study abroad is done through a program at your local institution. Not saying it does not exist, but I have never seen a program where students go to the Dominican Republic. In the programs you don't pick out your own school or contacts as you say you have done. Everything is usually already set up by your home institution (place to stay, visas, whatnot). The only time I was responsible for finding my own place to stay was in Toulouse because the dorms were being remodeled. It seems like you are trying to make your own program. If this is the case, be very careful and make sure to get everything cleared with the department head at your home institution as well as the office of academic affairs at your university. If not, it would more than likely just be a big waste of time and money for you.

Greetings Fellow Mongerers,

Thank you Marc and Mr E. for your advice and opinions. I apperciate them greatly. I am frequently on DR one but I didn't think we were allowed to mention other forms or other websites here(brain fart).

I don't plan to get rich in the DR thats not the point. I just want to earn enough to cover my daily expenses food, toothpaste, a beer or 2 etc...

As far as the education IMHO I believe it depends on the student. You could leave an individual at the best University in the world but if they lack the will to apply themselves then that doesn't reflect poorly on the university, the community at large but the individual student, IMHO. I have been a student in "bad schools", notwithstanding I have found a way to educate myself. Moreover, I have met very intelligent Dominicans, so it is pretty prejudical to say that Dominicans lack the quality to speak or communicate in proper spanish. I will be studying at an advanced University academic level so I am not throughly concerned with having a person teach me slang thus duping me and taking my money. Slang will come later. Seeing how I have fundamentals of spanish and a good working knowledge of the language I will know the difference if I notice that the professor is teaching me improperly. I am going more so to be immersed in the language and forced to speak spanish all the time allowing me to pefect my skills.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]What you are calling colloquial Dominican Spanish most people would call illiteracy. From a professional standpoint it can be compared to the general use of Ebonics by Black Americans. Don't get all bent out of shape because I am a Black American myself. But being a linguist I can tell you that there is a difference between knowing formal and informal language, whether written or spoken, and when and with whom to use each. Most Dominicans who speak in the colloquialisms that you are speaking of are not educated and do not know formal written or spoken Spanish. You can especially tell this by their writing as well. They will write 'b' when the letter should be 'v' or leave 'h's off the beginning of words. The same as you would find in the hood or on the block in the U.S., they can not switch between the standard and slang (as I can do with Standard Written/Spoken English and Ebonics) because they only know the one thoroughly. You are correct to recommend to the brother Colombia or Venezuela. Mexico City and San Jose, Costa Rica will do as well. But the DR is not the place to go to learn Standard or "Proper" Spanish.

I don't know your situation, but I did study abroads in undergrad as well as grad school (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil, Buenos Aires, Argentina, Johannesburg, South Africa, and Toulouse, France). Usually a study abroad is done through a program at your local institution. Not saying it does not exist, but I have never seen a program where students go to the Dominican Republic. In the programs you don't pick out your own school or contacts as you say you have done. Everything is usually already set up by your home institution (place to stay, visas, whatnot). The only time I was responsible for finding my own place to stay was in Toulouse because the dorms were being remodeled. It seems like you are trying to make your own program. If this is the case, be very careful and make sure to get everything cleared with the department head at your home institution as well as the office of academic affairs at your university. If not, it would more than likely just be a big waste of time and money for you.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational] They will write 'b' when the letter should be 'v' or leave 'h's off the beginning of words. [/QUOTE]So true. I was chatting with a light skin chica who lives in Puerto Plata on msn messenger today, she asked me "Cuando tu buelves? " (When do you return)

Vuelves is the word for return. Good luck to any guys who try to use the online translation pages (like google translate) when some chicas write out the words phonetically. Quiero sometimes becomes Kiero. When they want to say bye, they usually write bay. There are a few other words that some frequently spell out phonetically, but I can't remember them now.

When chatting in msn messenger sometimes the chicas use icons (guinos in spanish? ) in place of some words and letters. There is one icon of a chica with big bouncy tits, I am not sure what letter or word that one stands for.

[QUOTE=Blk Big Bootyluv]Greetings Fellow Mongerers,

Thank you Marc and Mr E. for your advice and opinions. [/QUOTE]Mr. E offers good advice about making sure before you study in Santiago, that you confirm with your current University/College that you will get credit for courses that you take in Dominican Republic. My nephew recently transferred to a different College and the new College only accepted about half his credits from the prior College.

From what I remember there are about three large Universities in Santiago, PUCM is one.

One is across from the Hotel Platino on Avenida Sadhalla, seems like a big University with a large campus. There is another smaller one that I saw further down past Hotel Platino on Avenida Sadhalla. Some of the Universities are private and others are public.

You can always date chicas from the surrounding areas, Moca, La Vega, Jarabacoa, Navarrete and Puerto Plata, they are within an hour of Santiago.

Very true thank you I'm working on that. I hadn't really considered dating chicas from the surrounding town/cities specifically because I will be without reliable transportation. I was adviced against buying a moto because it would be stolen b4 I can spend the nite with it.

[QUOTE=Jaosousa]Mr. E offers good advice about making sure before you study in Santiago, that you confirm with your current University / College that you will get credit for courses that you take in Dominican Republic. My nephew recently transferred to a different College and the new College only accepted about half his credits from the prior College.

From what I remember there are about three large Universities in Santiago, PUCM is one.

One is across from the Hotel Platino on Avenida Sadhalla, seems like a big University with a large campus. There is another smaller one that I saw further down past Hotel Platino on Avenida Sadhalla. Some of the Universities are private and others are public.

You can always date chicas from the surrounding areas, Moca, La Vega, Jarabacoa, Navarrete and Puerto Plata, they are within an hour of Santiago.[/QUOTE]

Funny as shit. Ja ja. You know what I was thinking about that too, have a sanctuary where I can go and be left the hell alone. I think no matter how many time I tell these chicas not to pop-up they will. Shit I'm the difference between finishing out her good years in the DR or fuck me silly so I get sprung and take her back with me to the states. I'm sure I have no idea how aggressive the chicas will be when they see I'm serious.

[QUOTE=Mr Gogo]I as you know have a residence on the north coast and I never take chics there. I don't need my neighbors knowing my biz, plus I don't need crazy chics dropping by. Your girl is not going to like you sharing her dick and pesos with other chics. Santiago has plenty of girls. I've seen how girls gravitate to you, even my girls that youve met still ask about you. I always like to have an escape place where I can be left the fuck alone. As nice as it would initially sound, having beautiful girls stopping by daily to fuck you silly, will eventually effect your studies. When you need to play sosua is only around the corner. I would slow play the santiago situation, focus on school only while getting acclimated to the culture. You being the new guy in Santiago all eyes are on you. When the girls see that your serious about your studies, that will elevate your talent pool above that of the average monger. But when you get acclimated I would gladly visit to fuck all the puntas you jumped over. What are friends for.[/QUOTE]

Bruh,

Just make sure to let me know where your place is and a phone number so I can have a place to crash when I come out to smash 'em up!

Rodeo

[QUOTE=Blk Big Bootyluv]Greetings my fellow mongeres,

I can't believe that someone else posted this rite before I was thinking about doing it. Robby looks like we're on the same page. I'm actually a senior in a US University and I am planning a study abroad experience for fall of 2010. I have my University already picked out in Santiago, contacts academic contacts established, " funding" in progress, my "novia (used loosely-I don't send her money but she claims to be true and faithful-whatever I'm not) is going to help me find a place close to school for about $200-250 US per month. Unfortunately, she said it will more than likely be unfurnished. The first time I visited the DR I fell in love with the country and I still feel this way close to 10 yrs later so, I am confident about living there.

Ok here we go questions. The longest that I have stayed in the DR has been a couple of days shy of a month; my educational trip is planned for no less than 1 year. I understand that I have visa issues that I need to work out which I heard is not difficult to handle. My "novia told me that many of the chicas are going to be all over me because I'm American and they think I'm the ticket out, so she knows I'm going to be banging any "grouppies"

(If any) in my place. I told her that I like living alone but, she will be welcome from time to time. Anyone think she's gonna have me set up or something crazy like that, like my good friend thinks? I have been told that Santiago is an extremely small town and people know each other and they talk/gossip incessantly. So, it won't be long before whichever chica I'm giving it to will have contact with my "novia".

Also, I was reading about the requirements for applying for Dominican citizenship (dual citizenship), residency, etc. I was wondering would this be good for me. I'm looking to visit the DR for the rest of my life and even retire there when the time is right, open a business and buy property. I'm a Semi-young guy looking at the big picture.

Also, I plan to have a job while attending school in the DR. I was told that I will not have a problem, namely, English speakers are highly desired by employers and since I already speak Spanish (not perfectly-that's the reason for trip.). I plan to do very little mongering (well that's the plan.) while on this trip but I might make it up to Sosua a couple of times for some fun.

Thanks all for your comments and advise?

Thank you for your opinion and advise.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Blk Big Bootyluv]...........I understand that I have visa issues that I need to work out which I heard is not difficult to handle......[/QUOTE]Since you are an American what type of visa do you need? If your intentions are long term stay why not get a cedula and residence card?

[QUOTE=Blk Big Bootyluv]...........My "novia told me that many of the chicas are going to be all over me because I'm American and they think I'm the ticket out,......[/QUOTE]Them chicas know no way in hell they will ever get into the US of A. They may be all over you looking for a WU man but I know you are smarter than that. LOL...........enjoy your trip