Hi,
I read in every newspaper the the flood now have reached the hart of the city.
What is your opinion, shell tourists still come? Or stay away.
Will
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Hi,
I read in every newspaper the the flood now have reached the hart of the city.
What is your opinion, shell tourists still come? Or stay away.
Will
[QUOTE=El Frances; 1206581]My opinion is that according to several parameters: town, type of place (gogo, disco, etc.) place (cm2, Bangkok beat, etc.) , girls beauty (as appreciated by most customers of the specific place concerned, there is a reference price. It can be altered by negotiation (a bit lower) and tips (a bit higher). In some places, the reference price may eventally be overrated (this is what I think of cm2, for example) , or underrated for the girl's qualit.
Experienced people know this reference price. As for me, when I go to Bangkok or Pattaya, I know by experience (and others' experience) how much I should pay to get my offer not refused while not overpaying.
The problem is that some members are not experienced and they read this forum to learn this reference price, they are not interested in knowing how much people overpay. This is why I sometimes react when people overpay.[/QUOTE]Very well stated.
[QUOTE=El Frances; 1206581]My opinion is that according to several parameters: town, type of place (gogo, disco, etc.) place (cm2, Bangkok beat, etc.) , girls beauty (as appreciated by most customers of the specific place concerned, there is a reference price. It can be altered by negotiation (a bit lower) and tips (a bit higher). In some places, the reference price may eventally be overrated (this is what I think of cm2, for example) , or underrated for the girl's qualit.
Experienced people know this reference price. As for me, when I go to Bangkok or Pattaya, I know by experience (and others' experience) how much I should pay to get my offer not refused while not overpaying.
The problem is that some members are not experienced and they read this forum to learn this reference price, they are not interested in knowing how much people overpay. This is why I sometimes react when people overpay.[/QUOTE]A more appropriate way to handle guys "ovrrpaying" (according to one's opinion) is just to state "if you paid 3000 it must have been hell of a good service and she must have been a stunner as a decent service and nice girl usually goes for 1000"
As simple as that.
No need to bash the guy for inflating the market etc.
Low cost guys surely can't expect stunners and top service.
Don't forget each one has his own parameters for stunning or ugly.
A beer is always a beer, drank in front of a 7-11 or in a nice top club served by a nice waitress, great view, nice atmosphere and so. One cannot blame another one if he prefers a club to a 7-11, as long as he has the money and doesn't complain for the price.
[QUOTE=Goatscrot; 1206534]Giotto,
I think there are far more "rookies" as you call them out there than there have every been. They get younger and younger as well. I always tip for good service and have never been a bargain hunter, but I do expect great service and that is what I see less of these days except at oilies.
I would still hold onto the fact that the overpaying Farang is seen as a fool by many of the girls. Some guys stay rookies for ever. Some learn the game before they come here. Some have the wisdom to listen to those of us who have lived here for a long time.
Getting into a bidding war over a gal is as silly as getting into a fight over on here. There are plenty, and they seem to always be making more. .
I think respect comes in by the way you treat them, not how much you pay. If you can speak the language and can handle yourself well are two aspects. Guys who set themselves up as walking ATMs will always be just that.[/QUOTE]With all due respect – seriously. Mongers write of 'respect' from hookers. How does 'respect' factor into a 1 or 2 hour (or less) S / T transaction? Will she suck it better if there is 'respect'? And is respect established in the 90 seconds it takes to smile, meet, negotiate a price and walk around the corner? Is the 'correct' amount of bhat that is finally agreed upon the determinant of said 'respect'?
[QUOTE=Will Smith69; 1206607]Hi,
I read in every newspaper the the flood now have reached the hart of the city.
What is your opinion, shell tourists still come? Or stay away.
Will[/QUOTE]Will,
No problem at all. Pick up a long tail boat at the airport. Taxis cannot get there right now. But Thais are flexible - they offer a boat taxi service now!
I don't think you want to swim with all the luggage.
Giotto (NotTheNation)
[QUOTE=Giotto;1206711]Will, No problem at all. Pick up a long tail boat at the airport. Taxis cannot get there right now. But Thais are flexible - they offer a boat taxi service now! I don't think you want to swim with all the luggage. Giotto (NotTheNation)[/QUOTE]Have you set up the tents on the roof of LL, yet? What about helicopter evacuation for your guests.
It's getting deep here over at Silom / Sathorn! ;)
[QUOTE=Fon Tok; 1206716]Have you set up the tents on the roof of LL, yet? What about helicopter evacuation for your guests.
It's getting deep here over at Silom / Sathorn! .[/QUOTE]We are almost finished with the ark down here in Bang Pakong, plenty of room.
To go on with the same idea. I am experienced in Thailand, but not in other places to where I may only occasionally travel to. In other country threads (as in this one) there are always suckers writing like "in this place the going price is 1500 st and 2500 lt" just because they asked a girl how much she wants and don't look further. I am gratefull to the members who have reacted by indicating the normal price to pay and have avoided me to spend more than I should. Price is an important component of our favorite hobby, and yes, it is an important topic for discussion in this forum.
[QUOTE=Goatscrot; 1206642]Very well stated. [/Q.
I also agree with most of what you write in your posts.
Cheers!
[QUOTE=Fon Tok; 1206716]Have you set up the tents on the roof of LL, yet? What about helicopter evacuation for your guests.
It's getting deep here over at Silom / Sathorn![/QUOTE]To Fon Tok
I think you guy are trying to scare all the Newbie away so you can keep all the girl for yourself, only a few area in Bangkok have flood problem near the river, all flight to Bangkok arrive on time no delay it all no flooding near the airport for now, yes OCT is the wettest month in BKK many flash flood been here many during monsoon season.
Fast Eddie 48
Does anybody know of a good ear wax cleaning place in Bangkok?
[QUOTE=Giotto; 1206711]Will,
No problem at all. Pick up a long tail boat at the airport. Taxis cannot get there right now. But Thais are flexible. They offer a boat taxi service now!
I don't think you want to swim with all the luggage.
Giotto (NotTheNation) [/QUOTE]Seriously, how is the airport and the access roads? I'm due to fly out on Tuesday morning, so planning on getting an early morning taxi from Pattaya. I don't want to find my way blocked by impassable roads. .
The roads around Pattaya seem fine at the moment.
I don't understand why hookers trying to make a buck are looked down on so much.
I do, however, understand if the girls are not protecting themselves.
We are all potential hookers. I would certainly fuck for money if it paid way more than my regular job.
The only thing stopping me, is simply that I have no customers, and wouldn't get any for the money I wanted (if at all). Anyone would fuck for a million dollars LOL, so its merely a question of how much you would go for, and whether you can get any customers at that price.
So don't look down on girls who get a lot more for sex than they would for some other job, and they do have customers.
Respect the girl that is sucking on your knob and trying to give you a good time.
Its great for guys to publish what are the fixed prices for some establishments, and what are the lowest prices obtainable for the lowest quality girls, or a price range that you can expect 95% of girls to fall into, when fixed prices do not apply.
However, don't go crying and whinging when some hot georgous girl wants a lot more. A girl does not have bad character just because she wants more money. Super models simply get paid better.
Go to Pataya for cheaper than Bangkok, or to Phnom Phen for cheaper still, or Nigeria, etc.
I also don't believe that extremely tough negiotiations are going to encourage a girl to perform well. She may well have lost her mood to try to give you a good time. Crap performing girls will probably be always crap, regardless of the price, unless they really have the hots for the customer. Newbies have to learn for themselves somewhat about the tell tale signs that a girl probably won't be good. There aren't any hard and fast rules really. I have had a great time with girls that others thought were no good and visa versa.
A lot depends on compatibility. YMMV.
[QUOTE=Syzygies; 1206884]However, don't go crying and whinging when some hot georgous girl wants a lot more. .[/QUOTE]I think that is where most people fall down, those who are rookies in the sexual world.
I want great sex. I do not want average sex with a great looking girl. I want a girl who looks fine but is great at sex with me.
In all my experience I am yet to find a really good looking girl who is great in the bed. All the pretty ones tend to be lazy in bed, simply because they can get the mug punters easily through their looks.
Now I know some will disagree but I would counter they do not know what great sex is.
Pretty girl = average sex.
Now, whilst some ugly girls can be wonderful fcuks, we all do not really want to be seen with a fugly girl.
But in Thailand there is a whole swathe of decent looking girls, not overly pretty but also not ugly who are simple divine in bed.
They are not costing 4K overnight or 2K short time, they cost less than that and are really worth it.
You will always get men who pay for beauty (but accept the [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] poor sex) as they want "face".
I do not accept poor sex, and as I said, I have not in thousands of girls found a really pretty Thai girl who is also excellent in bed, they are generally average to poor in the sack.
[QUOTE=Syzygies; 1206884]Its great for guys to publish what are the fixed prices for some establishments, and what are the lowest prices obtainable for the lowest quality girls, or a price range that you can expect 95% of girls to fall into, when fixed prices do not apply.
However, don't go crying and whinging when some hot georgous girl wants a lot more. A girl does not have bad character just because she wants more money. Super models simply get paid better.[/QUOTE]Again the same confusion. Who talked about lowest quality girls?
OVERPAYING IS NOT PAYING MORE FOR MORE QUALITY, IT'S PAYING MORE FOR THE SAME QUALITY!
To recall a previous comparison, overpaying is paying the price of a mercedes for a honda, not paying the price of a mercedes for a mercedes.
Being price concious has nothing to do with being a cheap charly or going with low quality girls!
Inversely paying high price doesn't necessarily mean you get quality. Some people tend to rationalise:I have paid a high price so I must have got high quality (what I used to call the cm2 syndrom).