I have never had a problem in Santa Fe, it is tough to beat that value anywhere.
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3007333]This kills me. I hear this from Americans scared to go to South America. All the stings in the USA and you have cases like with that French guy DSK who was falsely charged with rape and this NFL punter Matt Araiza who was also not even charged with rape but shamed as a rapist doing the exact same shit everyone here is doing and for some dumb reason, guys in the USA think what happened to these guys cannot happen to them.
What is the most important thing with regards to your safety? Look in the mirror. There is your answer. You are. If you go to the Santa Fe part of Bogota or on the South Side, and you do not keep an eye on your drinks, yeah, you will be drugged and robbed. It is just a matter of time.
Now you get a Colombian escort from a reputed agency who comes to your hotel room, and security as is so often the case, brings her to your room, it is a different matter. The hotel either holds her ID or has a copy of it. Often they will call you when the woman leaves and ask if all is okay. And if you have any brains, you lock up your valuables. And then what? Is she going to hold you up at gun point, and fly down four stories in a parachute like Tom Cruise? And what country has a money back guarantee if a hooker does rip you off or up charges you? The point is I see guys scared shitless going to Colombia when seeing a hooker in Colombia as I described is SAFER than in the USA because of these circumstances and there is way less of a chance of a legal issue..[/QUOTE]I wouldn't say that Santa Fe is the cheapest place in Bogota. It just seems that way. If we look at the real prices, then about 60-70 mil for 15-20 minutes. And as a rule, you'll get 10 minutes because 5 minutes are spent on undressing, getting dressed, etc. The girl will drag out the time. If you want one hour, then it works very straightforward there. 60*3 and more likely most of them ask for more than 200 mil.
Another problem is that most of them don't care to get you as her client long term. Therefore, the quality is not so good. Even if you know girls there, any prostitute will try to work as little as possible. And when she knows what to expect from you, most likely, you will get worse and worse service each time.
Santa Fe is designed for locals to put their dicks in, take out in 10 min with minimal costs.
Usually in brothels, a nice girls ask 150-200 for an hour. If you are lucky to find a good girl that suits your needs, then a casa much better choice than Santa Fe.
Quality is good in my experience
[QUOTE=Igor54;3008452]I forgot to say. I'm not even talking about the SF clubs, the price has 150% in the last year. 3 years ago I paid 80 for 20 minutes and the girls were happy. Now they tell me just for you 150 mil for 15 minutes. And they think that it makes me incredibly happy. I don't even make anyone in troy or fiebre. The quality is getting worse. Qualitygirls disappear. The chicks are getting older and fatter. Contraraly the prise souting up. I would say, this is a trend everywhere, not just in Bogota. No matter what country I am in, the quality of girls is going down, prices are going up, there are fewer and fewer quality girls. Over the last 5 years it will look like; when I'm 70 I'll be watching free porn and jerking off. And it will be a better option than fucking fat chicks. So take advantage of the moment while you can.[/QUOTE]I have not posted in a while but I have been to the clubs plenty-- Many Really hot girls available in the clubs and street as usual-- I go often and last Sunday I was was with a really hot 22 yo Colombiana paid 110 mil -- Sessions are going from 110-150 mil+ Street girls are usually 60-80 mil+ Anyhow just wanted to chime in with my experience.
Adventures in Bogota. Almost full trip report
I went to Bogota recently and here are my adventures during this time. I travel the world quite often and spend a bit more than usual on this forum I think. So I tried a bunch of options in Bogota. See my other and previous reports, like Brazil, Rio and Prague, Germany and many more. I also speak quite good Spanish which helps me in Bogota.
Bogota is full of opportunities, and due to the short time I had. I was only aiming for ones that do not consume a lot*of time.
Things you can do: - see below for the full report on each.
Book an escort to your room. I recommend "LE celestina" escort service. Great service, fair price, real photos. Had a bad encounter with "eroticas Bogota" so I can't recommend themFind girls on Tinder. Takes too much time, although previous times I had great success.
Find girls on Seeking Arrangement. Takes too much time and I don't like this platform. So no go for meGo to high end clubs. Lido, Angelos and more: sexy ladies, prices are a bit high (1,800,000) for what you get. I prefer other clubs.
Go to Santa Fe clubs. I LOVE IT. Almost every night I have been to Fiebre or Troya and had amazing success. (100,000 COP).
Massages. There are hundreds*of massage parlours*around Bogota. Usually with 5 girls in each. Most of them also offer sex. Very good value for money but you need to drive around the city.
Photos Prepagos and other online websites. Most of them are sex apartments advertising, usually the photos are not real, price is quite low (170,000) so I decided not to try. I do think you can find some gems there if you search hard and have time.
Bogota and Colombia are amazing, open minded girls, great food, good atmosphere.
Cons:
Girls are always late, at least 30 minutes or 1 hour and it is very hard to set a meeting with them or they might disappear.
Personal security. Don't do anything stupid.
Traffic is crazy, even short trips take 30 minutes and from the north to the center might take 45 minutes.
Lately they got the ugly behaviour of adding tips to the bill. I hate it.
All prices are in COP (Colombian Pesos, you need to double it for 1000. So 100 means 100,000 pesos).
Lido club:
So I arrived in Bogota. First thing I did is went to the Lido Night Club in Chapinero. Beautiful girls, grades from 6 to 8. 5. The problem is the pricing. 500 for 20 minutes. 800 for one hour in the room. To take a girl to your place, you need to pay 1,800 which 300 or 500 are fine to the club that you take the girl out. I arrived early around 9. 30 pm. There were 10 girls. They told me later around midnight there are many more girls. I didn't want to wait. I left, but only after I took the number of a girl I liked there. I couldn't meet her eventually because she ghosted me and said she is not feeling well. I guess there are many gringos that are willing to pay those prices. Compared to Europe those are good prices BUT I can find the same quality of girls at a lower price in Bogota.
Santa-Fe area, Troya nightclub, Fiebre nightclub. I took an Uber directly to Santa Fe from the Lido. In terms of security, I never walk in Santa-Fe, although I have met Woodman, the amazing guide that walks you around, I try not to take any unnecessary risks. I take the Uber directly to the entrance of Troya or Fiebre, which are very close to each other. I do walk from Fiebre to Troya and back, but that's it.
Troya was amazing. 50 girls. Around 11 pm. Grades from 4 to 7 and even 8. Costing 50 COP for a lap dance of three songs, the girl gets fully naked and spreads her legs. I took so many lap dances from each girl. Found a nice Colombian lady, negotiated for her to come to my hotel for all night for 600. It was fun. You buy beer for a lady (lady drink, coronita) for 30 COP and she stays with you for a long time to chat.
I stayed in the Tequendama Suites hotel:
This is a shitty hotel with just two good things: they are mostly girl friendly and they have very large rooms for a fair price.
Why they are shitty: The Internet does not work. When it does, most of the websites are blocked. Breakfast could have been much better with the same materials if they replaced the chef. They try to overcharge me. It cost 90 to get the girl into your room after 9 pm. They asked for 120. I argued and they dropped it to the original price.
The good thing is that they check the girls when they come in, and photo their IDs. They don't let girls without ID (Cedula) to get in. They don't let the girl leave without checking and phoning your room to see you are ok. I like it, and I am willing to pay for it. It is a low cost for the security they give you. Therefore I will go back to this hotel. I prefer it over an Airbnb with no security. For the internet, I just bought a sim for 20 with internet for a week.
Next day, I went again to Troya and Fiebre in Santa-Fe. Really, my favorite place in Bogota. I try not to stay too late in those places. I stay until 1 am. For two reasons, I want not to be so tired when I take the girl to my hotel. Second, early in the morning, people are more drunk and bad things might happen if you bump into the wrong guy. I also don't like the rooms inside the clubs, they are filthy. I prefer to pay extra and take the girls to my hotel. Once I found a girl that I like.
Prices in Santa-Fe:
Lap dance: 50. You can negotiate for less, especially if the girl is not that good looking. But I didn't care and paid 50. They get fully naked, opening their pussy. You can touch. And they dance quite well.
Lady drink: between 20 to 30 and the girl stays to chat with you for 10 to 30 minutes. Depends how crowded it is and your charming personality. Quickly in the room: between 80 to 120 - depends how attractive the girl is.
To take to your hotel: between 400 to 1,000 - depends the time you take her out, for how long. But mostly all night is around 700. Angelos nightclub. I went to Angelos which is a bit further south of Bogota. Beautiful club, have a jacuzzi in the middle. Very trendy, clean, clean rooms, lot's of girls, the average is a bit higher than Santa-Fe clubs, it's more or less like the Lido. Again, the problem is pricing. You need to order a bottle of Rum (ron) and it costs 400 just to begin with. To take a lady out will cost you 1,200. In the room it might be 800. A lap dance will cost you 200. Now although the average look is higher than other places, you can still find very attractive girls in Santa-Fe. So again, the value per money is not worth it. I left Angelos after I took a phone number from a girl and went back to Fiebre. The girl eventually couldn't meet me because she is living inside the Angelos establishment and allowed only to leave during the day.
Back in Fiebre I met two amazing girls. One blonde 26, with round ass, quite tall and thicc thighs, definitely an 8. The other one, a bit more brown, but with a beautiful face and personality, quite thin,*around 7. 5. I took a few lap dances and decided to take the thick blonde to my hotel. 400 pesos for two hours in my hotel. I don't know if she went back to Fiebre or back home.
The next day, I booked a girl from La celestina escort during the day. A small 19 years old girl arrived, quite nice face, skinny body. She couldn't get in because she forgot her ID. We searched for a motel, drove together to a motel and enjoyed our time there.
Friday night and Saturday night, I gathered all the phone numbers of girls I took from the clubs, and invited 5 girls to go out dancing with me, salsa, reggaeton and more. I had such a great time. Each girl got between 600 to 800 per night. After the club, I took them to my hotel to have some fun. Three of them stayed to sleep until morning and breakfast. You should have seen the people dining breakfast watching the girls with party dress and high heels coming to eat. They were all ogling on us.
I went to a nice massage, I don't remember the name, around Chapinero. They had 5 girls. One quite*young, 21 years old. 170 for one hour of massage with a happy ending. She offered extra 200 for sex, but I didn't feel like it.
A few remarks:
Sunday and Monday night the clubs are open but they are very empty and just a few girls.
Wed. Sat: clubs are full, 150 girls and more in each club.
Security wise:
I prefer to walk on the safe side. If something looks sketchy to me, or doesn't feel right, I turn around 180 degrees and leave.
I don't walk in Santa-Fe area. Even if it is just a 5 minutes walk, I take Uber.
I don't take taxis. Only Uber.
I prefer hotels that check IDs over Airbnb. It might be a bit more expensive, yet, I think it is worth it.
I always let someone else know where I am going. A friend.
I don't walk with my credit card. I leave it at the hotel. I use a rechargeable debit card.
I use a special old phone with a sim card I bought in Bogota. So I don't lose my phone if I get robbed.
I don't drink any alcohol. I don't like it and it's harder to spike my drink when I drink only water.
I don't touch the same bottle / cup twice. I drink everything immediately. If I put the cup back on the table, I order a new drink after.
Until now, I have been in Colombia six times and following those rules above, I never had any problem ever.
Security measures, what might happen to you:
A girl in your room might grab some money from your wallet or your*cell phone when you don't notice. I keep my belongings in the safe. I try to keep an eye on my stuff. I try to bring girls that look decent to my room. Until now I have succeeded (I speak very good Spanish so I can try and see how the girl is).
Someone might put something in my drink: At the clubs I try to be careful as much as possible. I try not to go alone to the clubs (I book someone from Showaround to go with me. Philipe is amazing. Or I even pay one girl that I trust to stay with me in the club). At the room, before the girl leaves, the receptionist at the hotel calls my room to allow her to go out.
You might get robbed with a knife or gun on the street: just give everything you have, it's not worth it. Your life is more valuable. I just walk without an expensive phone, without a credit card. I wear regular clothes, not too fancy (but not like a homeless person or the girls will not like me. I don't walk much in shady areas, I take Uber. I do walk with no problem in the north, like Zona T and Chapinero. I don't take my phone outside in the street at night. I book and wait for Uber inside the club.
Getting drugged / kidnapped: It's less likely in Bogota. That happens more in Medellin. Frankly, I don't know how to avoid that. I guess staying in the hotel is much more safer.
Enjoy guys.
Arrgh I wish my keyboard was working
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3007333]This kills me.,,,, Sao Paulo like Bogota is not the most entertaining city in the world, but there are more 10's per square inch in Sao Paulo than anywhere else in the world, and they have the top brothel in the world there. Sorry globe club lovers. I do not what they teach these Brazilian women but when they give you head, it does not just feel good, they will make you audibly gasp and swear you have seen Jesus himself.
That was a harbinger of things to come for me with Colombian women. The best Colombian women are smart, sweet, upbeat, fun, hardworking women who know how to take care of a man. If you want to get laid, go to Sao Paulo. It is worth the crime risk. If you want to find GF / wife material, go to Bogota.[/QUOTE]Thigs have changed I oth countries (I suspect) I will proudly go to Razil again I a few months. Arrrgh.