Bangkok Massage Parlors - Except TULIP and ANNIES!

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2073259]Maya's photos are not quite perfection. Very hard to see whether tits are nice or ugly silicone job and nostrils are slightly too evident. Probably not my first choice.

Pics of Rose, Sonya, and one other look okay To me, but I suppose the pics are all lies, and unlikely to be like the real thing.[/QUOTE]Rose / Sonya are not good looking in person, most of the girls there are overly photoshopped from fat to hot. I think Maya / Pink are the only decent looking ones, as I've seen them all in person. Okay, so I saw Maya recently. She is NOT as hot in the photos, but is kind of hot many BMs will probably like her. She is dark skin, taller for a Thai lady, broad shoulders, and kind of fat with a stomach flab / pouch. And she looks a bit village, where's the photos she looks more Bangkok princess. She looks exactly like what a soi 6 girl would look like, just much less tattoos. Now, onto the most important part. Her tits are real. A little flabby and at some positions uneven (they are themselves even), but 100% real and rather bigger for a Thai lady and also somewhat large / huge nipples and she likes to have them played with a bit. And very much not shy, was a bit eager to give me a BJ and it lasted for awhile, no CBJ of course. She isn't shy and talks a lot, I think she used to work in a bar. Oh and defintey no nose surgery, her face is OK. Somewhat hot, but she has gained some weight since the photos or the photoshop took it all off. She isn't ugly lord no. But she just looks quite a bit more average in person. This isn't the first time I've fallen for their photos, they make all their girls there look way hotter than in reality.

In short, she isn't a looker, but she isn't half bad either. If you are only wanting to line up a looker just stay with Mitu is my guess. Never been but their pics do look impressive. Also it's a bit of a no brainer that a girl who is 2000 baht versus 4000 baht, which is going to be hotter? If looking to lighten the budget then Maya though, nothing wrong with stretching that monger money for more trips.

I have a question regarding payment. Most of these websites list prices for their services, which is the actual price of the massage itself, and from what I've read usually full service runs between 1,800-2,200 baht. So when you go to these places, do they tell you the price upfront or is it something you negotiate with the girl in the room, and who do you give the money to?

I ask because I would like to avoid a situation where they sense I'm a newbie (I've never gone to massage places before, I usually prefer gogos) and tbe girl quotes me a ridiculous figure in the room, or they might assume I'm genuinely there for a massage, which I think would be hilarious if they did hahaha.

[QUOTE=BlueKangaroo;2073348]I have a question regarding payment. Most of these websites list prices for their services, which is the actual price of the massage itself, and from what I've read usually full service runs between 1,800-2,200 baht. So when you go to these places, do they tell you the price upfront or is it something you negotiate with the girl in the room, and who do you give the money to?

I ask because I would like to avoid a situation where they sense I'm a newbie (I've never gone to massage places before, I usually prefer gogos) and tbe girl quotes me a ridiculous figure in the room, or they might assume I'm genuinely there for a massage, which I think would be hilarious if they did hahaha.[/QUOTE]Try to negotiate as soon as possible before even getting into the room if possible to be discreet. With this I mean don't embarrass them but don't let them strip you and make you horny and then negotiate. (Unless that is your thing.) Can't give to much insight on price since BKK has been a while but depending on girl, place and included service will give a quite big span.

Normally you give it to the girl after except the normal massage fee unless it's soapie/fishbowl where normally it can be all upfront.

[QUOTE=BlueKangaroo;2073348]I have a question regarding payment. Most of these websites list prices for their services, which is the actual price of the massage itself, and from what I've read usually full service runs between 1,800-2,200 baht. So when you go to these places, do they tell you the price upfront or is it something you negotiate with the girl in the room, and who do you give the money to?

I ask because I would like to avoid a situation where they sense I'm a newbie (I've never gone to massage places before, I usually prefer gogos) and tbe girl quotes me a ridiculous figure in the room, or they might assume I'm genuinely there for a massage, which I think would be hilarious if they did hahaha.[/QUOTE]Simple, I have never had a need to negotiate in an MP.

If price is all inclusive, you pay upfront at the desk. Negotiation is not accepted. Price is fixed.

If you pay for massage only at the desk, then you are expected to pay 1500 Baht direct to the girl for full service in an Oily MP. Has been this fee for well over 10 years. This would normally include CIM, and anal (if the girl is willing), and in some MPs even multiple shots. You can tip the girl extra for good and diligent service, if desired. Obviously not for a crap session. Supposedly only 1000 Baht for oral sex only, however I think that idea may have gone out of fashion, in that girls are not keen to make lower money for BJ since it can be harder work than full sex, depending on size of your dick.

In places with all in prices, girls actually make less than 1500 Baht usually. Often 1400 but sometimes less.

In some MPs, if you require multi shots, you might need to negotiate for that, and some places I have heard charge extra for anal sex. I don't negotiate these sort of things. Girls should be willing to do extra shots within reason, providing it is not causing them to work well beyond the call of duty. I rarely get two shots because first one takes so long, but has been known to happen.

Girls virtually never offer me anal or multi-shots because I take so long. So fair enough.

If you want multiple shots and anal, you are better off to go to a shop where it is included as standard like Tulip or Snow White I reckon. Different guidelines for me since my priority is pretty natural girls, harder to find.

I don't really understand what MakeorBreak is getting at really, in his answer. Perhaps he refers to a negotiation about what services the girl will provide rather than a money negotiation. I don't try to persuade girls to kiss if they don't. It is not going to work.

Some things have fixed prices. Some things are a free bonus if provided.

[QUOTE=MakeItOrBreak;2073385]Try to negotiate as soon as possible before even getting into the room if possible to be discreet. With this I mean don't embarrass them but don't let them strip you and make you horny and then negotiate. (Unless that is your thing.) Can't give to much insight on price since BKK has been a while but depending on girl, place and included service will give a quite big span.

Normally you give it to the girl after except the normal massage fee unless it's soapie/fishbowl where normally it can be all upfront.[/QUOTE]Yea I've been to a soapy once where you pay at the counter, but have never been to these massage places before so I'm not sure on the SOP, but thanks for the insight, will report back next week!

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2073458]Simple, I have never had a need to negotiate in an MP.

If price is all inclusive, you pay upfront at the desk. Negotiation is not accepted. Price is fixed.[/QUOTE]I ask because on their websites they only list the prices for the massage itself, like say 800 baht for a 2 hour Thai massage, which I'm pretty sure based on what I've read isn't the actual cost of the full service. I can only assume they don't explicitly list their full services for discretionary purposes or legal reasons. That's why I'm wondering how does one pay, is it an upfront thing where when you arrive they will list the full price including full service, or it's only when you go to the room and the girl tries to nego with you then.

I guess it might differ from shop to shop, but say I plan to visiting Snow White, how does Snow White operate in terms of payments? Upfront or inside the room to the girl separately?

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2073458]I don't really understand what MakeorBreak is getting at really, in his answer. Perhaps he refers to a negotiation about what services the girl will provide rather than a money negotiation. I don't try to persuade girls to kiss if they don't. It is not going to work.

Some things have fixed prices. Some things are a free bonus if provided.[/QUOTE]I think he means negotiation of price, because if you haven't agreed to anything and she's already got you naked and horny, there's a good chance she'll ask for more than what's acceptable haha.

[QUOTE=BlueKangaroo;2073523]
I think he means negotiation of price, because if you haven't agreed to anything and she's already got you naked and horny, there's a good chance she'll ask for more than what's acceptable haha.[/QUOTE]Definitely not the case in my experience. Never happened. That is why I don't understand his post. Too vague.

You go to Snow White. You pay for massage at the start. 800 is a massage only price. You go upstairs and fuck the girl and do whatever other things she will allow. No negotiations. No money discussions. At the end you pay her 1500 plus any tip in the room. That is it. Crystal Clear.

[QUOTE=EricSwiss;2073248]You're welcome, Hiete.

I looked at their website:

[URL]http://www.addictmassagebkk.com/index.php?mo=10&art=42313136[/URL]

And saw neither a Nan nor a Nane. It's possible my girl is not on there, it's a Thai massage parlor we're talking about here, not a German precision-machine equipment factory. I've even heard that girls change their nickname mid-month. True story.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the link Eric Swiss which is interesting as I have a different link with pictures where you can see the two ladies I've mentioned. Not sure that my pronunciation of Nana will match with the girls name but I'll give it a try next time I'm there. I agree that there's plenty of other females that might catch my eye and in case I'm not convinced I will try out 102 that seems not to be that bad either or going on my way back to SW instead.

At least service seems to be good over there even though I never had the chance to meet Ninja, Emmy, Bonus or Candy. They all weren't there and choose Audi instead as I was desperate to release my load. Even though she doesn't have the nicest body to stay respectful she did gave me good service. As I do like a BJ she had my cock in her mouth for 45 minutes and didn't complained a single second. She gave me another quick BBBJCIM in the shower for dessert too even though I wasn't asking for it. By the way I took a 1 h30 m package.

WIR? Most likely not as she's not a looker.

By the way this is the webpage of Addict I'm talking about: [URL]http://www.addictmassagebkk.com/gallerys/272776/STAFF.html[/URL].

[QUOTE=Hiete;2073602]Thanks for the link Eric Swiss which is interesting as I have a different link with pictures where you can see the two ladies I've mentioned. Not sure that my pronunciation of Nana will match with the girls name but I'll give it a try next time I'm there. I agree that there's plenty of other females that might catch my eye and in case I'm not convinced I will try out 102 that seems not to be that bad either or going on my way back to SW instead.

By the way this is the webpage of Addict I'm talking about: [URL]http://www.addictmassagebkk.com/gallerys/272776/STAFF.html[/URL].[/QUOTE]That web page is old. Most likely a lot of staff turnover. Could be Nan and Nane are not there any more. Nan probably rhymes with fun, and Nane probably rhymes with ban (better spelled Naen), less likely to rhyme with Jane (but faintly possible. If so I never heard of that name before). Could be neither of those. LOL. Thai names in English just doesn't always work very well. Nana is pronounced like Nar-nar.

Photos are very misleading. Better to choose what appeals by sight, and get lucky, once get used to the dim lighting, or take a highly recommended girl. I only ever had one really great performing girl at Addict named J. J. and she is long gone. Her looks were acceptable too. Not my favourite shop at all. Lots of bad bodies hidden under fancy uniform. Over dressed girls. Could be that only 10 to 20% of the girls are actually good.

My last favourite Oily MP girl was called Pink at New Massage. She was young and pretty and had great body (lovely tits). Service acceptable with nice kissing but not amazing. Unfortunately she disappeared back about last December. Probably got a sponsor. That is what happens if the girls are lookers. Since then I found only one girl worth repeating at Evita Soapy. My repeat rate for MP girls has been so poor lately. I agree it is hard to find the great looks and great service combination. My problem is not wanting to take plain looking girls, no matter how good they might perform.

I really want to fuck this girl in the ass. Anyone have experience?

[QUOTE=BlueKangaroo;2073523]I ask because on their websites they only list the prices for the massage itself, like say 800 baht for a 2 hour Thai massage, which I'm pretty sure based on what I've read isn't the actual cost of the full service. I can only assume they don't explicitly list their full services for discretionary purposes or legal reasons. That's why I'm wondering how does one pay, is it an upfront thing where when you arrive they will list the full price including full service, or it's only when you go to the room and the girl tries to nego with you then..[/QUOTE]Dude: take a breath, drop the assumptions, and stop pushing back against people who have been familiar with Bangkok P4 P scene for decades. In the group of PSE oilies we talk about on ISG:

The price you pay the massage shop is 400 baht for 1 hour, 600 baht for 90 minutes, and 800 baht for 2 hours. This is basically for the room.

The price for the lady is 1500 baht. This is for her services. No negotiation necessary.

If the shop charges you 800 for 2 hours downstairs, the lady's cost is not included. Give her 1500 baht upstairs [I]after[/I] the session.

If the shop charges you 2300 baht for 2 hours downstairs, the lady's cost is already included.

Some shops do it one way, some shops do it another way. You are going to have to deal with this fluid situation LOL.

If you liked the service you can give the lady a tip as token recognition of your appreciation. Anywhere from 200 to 500 baht seems to be the most reported amount.

If you have any [I]game[/I] or P4 P experience don't worry you will be fine.

SL.

[QUOTE=Sunlover2;2073631]Dude: take a breath, drop the assumptions, and stop pushing back against people who have been familiar with Bangkok P4 P scene for decades. In the group of PSE oilies we talk about on ISG:

The price you pay the massage shop is 400 baht for 1 hour, 600 baht for 90 minutes, and 800 baht for 2 hours. This is basically for the room.

The price for the lady is 1500 baht. This is for her services. No negotiation necessary.

If the shop charges you 800 for 2 hours downstairs, the lady's cost is not included. Give her 1500 baht upstairs [I]after[/I] the session.

If the shop charges you 2300 baht for 2 hours downstairs, the lady's cost is already included.

Some shops do it one way, some shops do it another way. You are going to have to deal with this fluid situation LOL.

If you liked the service you can give the lady a tip as token recognition of your appreciation. Anywhere from 200 to 500 baht seems to be the most reported amount.

If you have any [I]game[/I] or P4 P experience don't worry you will be fine.

SL.[/QUOTE]Not pushing back against anyone, not sure how you got that impression, I am genuinely curious that's why I am asking to avoid an awkward situation for when I do get there.

But thanks anyway, your answer was exactly what I was looking for.

Rumor has it that ALL of the massage shops in Ambassador Alley at Sukhumvit Soi 11 are to close by the end of 2017 by order of the owners of the property.

Other than my posting the rumor on another site, has anyone else heard this on the ground yet?

[QUOTE=Ixgzca;2073627]I really want to fuck this girl in the ass. Anyone have experience?[/QUOTE]Started her career at Bongkot and moved to Addict. She was of course A+ at Bongkot, but that does not seem to have continued at Addict.

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2073990]Started her career at Bongkot and moved to Addict. She was of course A+ at Bongkot, but that does not seem to have continued at Addict.[/QUOTE]Is this a special case, where negotiation would be needed? LOL Surely her ass has a price (which might be too high).

Looks good in the pic, perhaps too good for Bongkot. I never spotted too many pretty ones there. Is she as nice looking as the pic? O.K. I see the website indicates it is Cheer.

My taste is probably Bell, Kaimook, Smile, and maybe Ivy, going by pics alone (which is an unreliable thing). Many don't look pretty at all.