Monterrey

So, after an incredible, sweat-drenched GFE session with a new girl at one of my preferred establishments, I spent some time shooting the sh_t with the owner. Apparanty, no less that 15 Monterrey residents(all Mexicanos) have recently come into this establishment after reading positive reviews on the ISG forum.

And that's great. That is why this forum is here. However...

please do not demand that the girls provide services that were mentioned here or referenced to on this board. In the U.S. we have an acronym referred to as YMMV(your mileage may vary). Just because a particular type of service was provided to one of us here does not necessarily mean that it will be provided to you. Just as the case that services provided to you may not be offered to us. The reports posted here are for all to use and not abuse. Creating an uncomfortable situation for the girls discourages people from posting here. I knew that I had previously developed somewhat tenuous relations with two very nice girls that I am a client of and now I know why.

Also, this forum is not limited for use by Americans. Monterrey residents are encouraged to post here with their recommendations and experiences both in the MP's and S/C's.

Sometimes I just cannot figure out this Monterrey thread. In Jackson's [url]www.argentinaprivate.com/[/url] forum, it is all about guys helping each other out(names,numbers,ratings,services rendered).

For some reason, its different here.

The biggest reason not to post specifics if one is a frequent visitor or living in Monterrey is that Monterrey is a venue unto itself, unique. But, having sampled a lot of other venues, I have concluded that the "best" that the world has to offer is also attainable in Monterrey, perhaps even better, but it is very rare per capita, and requires significantly more work.

The unique distinction that is "Monterrey" is precisely the reason that posting particulars can be totally detrimental to your own fun on the ground. Some that pick up the specifics, simply don't use the proper discretion, and they can, and do, sabatage others, and with girls that we, according to our own individual preferences, work hard to find.

In the end, after the few that are careless with the information are through sabotaging what we have worked hard to identify, sometimes even innocently, we are left with the mediocre leftovers as a result of sometimes not being able to repair the damage done to those relationships. It is precisely the reason we used synonyms for the girls, and have all but totally witheld even the smallest specific tidbits of information, opting most recently not to post anything of specicivity.

The same GFEs that are so easily found in the other venues are available in Monterrey...but, it takes a hell of a lot of effort and expense to find them in comparison. So, while the indescriminate disclosure of specific detailed information has a minor effect on securing a good thing in Asia, Colombia, Argentina, etc..it has a major effect on securing a good thing in Monterrey.

The distinction is a matter of supply and demand in Monterrey. There are simply too many mongers, and too few girls. In the other notorious venues, the girls out number the mongers 1000 to 1, and sabotage of the girl you screwed last night has absolutely NO effect on the fun you will have the next night.

That's the reason there are differences between the content posted in other threads...

Yes Precocious, Unspongebob is right, but not for the reasons he mentions.

Monterrey is 100% different from other venues, like lets say, TJ.

TJ girls are older, and more like working with a "I don't care about you" mentality.
Besides that, the mayority of the girls are not local as the working girls in Monterrey are.

And the mongers that visit TJ and any other border town, for example, forget the names of the girls in a second.

Monterrey is so different and you are proof to that Precocious.
Girls like your business.
Hell... you have tons of fun here.

Again, going back to other places other than Montrrey.

For some reason or another, girls there move so quickly around the clubs, coming and going, new girls appearing and disapearing, that they are not there the next time a monger comes to the club with a print out taken from this or other forums.

Besides that, many girls in the border towns are totally illeterate regarding the Web, internet and forums like this one.

And with all due respect to my fellow friends that visit the border towns...
...guys visiting the border towns, and the TJ thread atests to this, do not go to the higher end clubs nor use the services of higher end girls (by higher end am talking of a Poisson-Pasarelas-Harem equivalent).

Girls working at clubs like Bar Adelita in TJ and Bar Papagayo at NLBT, not to mention the street girls or the door girls at their respective Zonas are not up to par with what we have here in Monterrey, both in education and social standing.

And in some way or another, mongers visiting those places manage not to hurt the business... I don't know why.
Maybe the girls are made of Teflon, so it doesn't stick.

Besides, the mongers visiting "other places" look for more "pops" per hour, quite the contrary of what we look for here.






[QUOTE=UnospongeBob]The biggest reason not to post specifics if one is a frequent visitor or living in Monterrey is that Monterrey is a venue unto itself, unique. But, having sampled a lot of other venues, I have concluded that the "best" that the world has to offer is also attainable in Monterrey, perhaps even better, but it is very rare per capita, and requires significantly more work.

The unique distinction that is "Monterrey" is precisely the reason that posting particulars can be totally detrimental to your own fun on the ground. Some that pick up the specifics, simply don't use the proper discretion, and they can, and do, sabatage others, and with girls that we, according to our own individual preferences, work hard to find.

In the end, after the few that are careless with the information are through sabotaging what we have worked hard to identify, sometimes even innocently, we are left with the mediocre leftovers as a result of sometimes not being able to repair the damage done to those relationships. It is precisely the reason we used synonyms for the girls, and have all but totally witheld even the smallest specific tidbits of information, opting most recently not to post anything of specicivity.

The same GFEs that are so easily found in the other venues are available in Monterrey...but, it takes a hell of a lot of effort and expense to find them in comparison. So, while the indescriminate disclosure of specific detailed information has a minor effect on securing a good thing in Asia, Colombia, Argentina, etc..it has a major effect on securing a good thing in Monterrey.

The distinction is a matter of supply and demand in Monterrey. There are simply too many mongers, and too few girls. In the other notorious venues, the girls out number the mongers 1000 to 1, and sabotage of the girl you screwed last night has absolutely NO effect on the fun you will have the next night.

That's the reason there are differences between the content posted in other threads...[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Amigomio]Monterrey is 100% different from other venues, like lets say, TJ. Besides, the mongers visiting "other places" look for more "pops" per hour, quite the contrary of what we look for here.[/QUOTE]

Certainly, your assessment of Mexico may be correct with respect to comparing a very small, and relatively insignificant venue with respect to the world as a whole.

One of the reasons I, and others, are sometimes so hard on Mexico, is knowing the potential available in some of the other worldwide venues. I have, for probably at least three years, concluded that my concept of perfection is available in Mexico, but compared to the rest of the world, it is significantly more difficult to achieve the same thing commonly found in such abundance in places other than Mexico.

However, that should not be construed as a slam to Mexico. I am, afterall, concluding that I prefer to play in Mexico versus the other venues, and much of it has to do with a very small number of girls that deliver world class experiences, mostly as a result of the work I've done to cultivate them as such. But, even then, the GFE experiences in Asia are far superior with respect to intensity compared to Mexico. Why?

For example, in Asia, once the girls focus on a good prospect they stick to you like glue. This whole issue of supply and demand DRIVES the GFE. There are so many more girls, and so few "affluent" mongers, that the girls "act out" their GFE routines with a degree of sincerity, it being literally almost a matter of life and death to them with respect to their own safe existence. That is NOT a factor in Mexico. And, that is a huge factor when comparing what motivates girls in venues other than Mexico. Just as I would not expect to find intense GFE in Germany or Zurick, there does exist a limited abundance in Mexico. It is similiarly true per capita when comparing Mexico to the even greater abundance for GFE in the PI for example.

This "dependent" attitude, and the relative lack of demand, has a natural effect on emotions. If the girls find their sugar daddy, it's much more important to them than will ever be the case in Monterrey or TJ. That's the distinction. And, that's where supply and demand rules the GFE sceanario.

The economic necessities in their lives simply make the girls in venues such as Asia so much more diligent. Fact is, many eventually begin to actually develop an attachment that typically far surpasses the one experienced in Mexico, often to a point of legitimacy, mostly out of life and death desperation more than anything else, but a degree of legitimate attachment none the less.

Intense and legitimate GFE is possible in Mexico, but it's far from the norm. That's why I sympathize when some accuse others of being delusional with respect to GFE in Mexico. I know that it rarely occurs to my standards, and I can certainly understand if they doubt the varacity of claims made on the boards when it does occur. However, in Asia, for example, the abundance of GFE is so prolific, that you almost can not avoid finding it, and with little or NO work in comparison. And that is the reason mongers feel more at ease releasing specific information in other venues, because they know their brand of experience is so easily attainable, and the supply so high, that they will never go a single night without total bliss being the result. In Mexico, you just never really know, do you? Unless, of course, you have your established, trusty stable of girls...

I don't want to contradict my friend USB.

But SEA is SEA.
Mexico is Mexico.

I stoppes a long time agon comparing Mexico to other places.
Mexico is unique as Brazil is unique and SEA is unique.

I don't care how or what the girls do in SEA, I concentrate my efforts on Monterrey girls.

As a matter of fact most, if not all of the mongers coming to Mty have never or will never visit SEA.

Comparing Mexico to SEA is not even apples and oranges, it doesn't even aply when you don't know what the respective flavors taste like.

And again my friend USB is way above many mongers cause he visits Monterrey almost every month.
He's a familiar face to the local businesses.
(And finally after a long hiatus, the girls again see him as a plausible customer)

Some mongers just come to Monterrey and visit the clubs for a quickie, a one nighter.

For those guys, I preffer for them to get the best of the city.

They will never get what USB gets, hell, what I get from the clubs which is even far superior to what USB gets.

For those guys, that's the idea: we want to help them get the best of the city that one-2 nights they spend here.





[QUOTE=UnospongeBob]Certainly, your assessment of Mexico may be correct with respect to comparing a very small, and relatively insignificant venue with respect to the world as a whole.

One of the reasons I, and others, are sometimes so hard on Mexico, is knowing the potential available in some of the other worldwide venues. I have, for probably at least three years, concluded that my concept of perfection is available in Mexico, but compared to the rest of the world, it is significantly more difficult to achieve the same thing commonly found in such abundance in places other than Mexico.

However, that should not be construed as a slam to Mexico. I am, afterall, concluding that I prefer to play in Mexico versus the other venues, and much of it has to do with a very small number of girls that deliver world class experiences, mostly as a result of the work I've done to cultivate them as such. But, even then, the GFE experiences in Asia are far superior with respect to intensity compared to Mexico. Why?

For example, in Asia, once the girls focus on a good prospect they stick to you like glue. This whole issue of supply and demand DRIVES the GFE. There are so many more girls, and so few "affluent" mongers, that the girls "act out" their GFE routines with a degree of sincerity, it being literally almost a matter of life and death to them with respect to their own safe existence. That is NOT a factor in Mexico. And, that is a huge factor when comparing what motivates girls in venues other than Mexico. Just as I would not expect to find intense GFE in Germany or Zurick, there does exist a limited abundance in Mexico. It is similiarly true per capita when comparing Mexico to the even greater abundance for GFE in the PI for example.

This "dependent" attitude, and the relative lack of demand, has a natural effect on emotions. If the girls find their sugar daddy, it's much more important to them than will ever be the case in Monterrey or TJ. That's the distinction. And, that's where supply and demand rules the GFE sceanario.

The economic necessities in their lives simply make the girls in venues such as Asia so much more diligent. Fact is, many eventually begin to actually develop an attachment that typically far surpasses the one experienced in Mexico, often to a point of legitimacy, mostly out of life and death desperation more than anything else, but a degree of legitimate attachment none the less.

Intense and legitimate GFE is possible in Mexico, but it's far from the norm. That's why I sympathize when some accuse others of being delusional with respect to GFE in Mexico. I know that it rarely occurs to my standards, and I can certainly understand if they doubt the varacity of claims made on the boards when it does occur. However, in Asia, for example, the abundance of GFE is so prolific, that you almost can not avoid finding it, and with little or NO work in comparison. And that is the reason mongers feel more at ease releasing specific information in other venues, because they know their brand of experience is so easily attainable, and the supply so high, that they will never go a single night without total bliss being the result. In Mexico, you just never really know, do you? Unless, of course, you have your established, trusty stable of girls...[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Amigomio]They will never get what USB gets, hell, what I get from the clubs which is even far superior to what USB gets.[/QUOTE]

"They will never get what USB gets..."

So True...Pero.

"far superior to what USB gets...????"

Uhhhhhhhcccccccccccccccccccccmmmmmmmmmm!!!! Perdoneme???? Disculpame?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

:-)))

You only "get" more because you are there more. What I get for time spent in comparison is UNfricken believable, and you know it...

Are you offering a challenge?

I know, shall I set sights on the little delgada girl you introduced me to at the "XYZ" place, and told me hands off?????....uhmmmmmmmm :-))) You know the temptation: flaca, curvy, cute, sexy, sleek,...ahhhhhh, she has it all.

Let the contest begin...Afterall, I only have a short window of opportunity compared to the Master so the contest would be fair, no?

I will keep my hands off if you retract that offending last statement that I do not get the same level of action that you get. Go ahead, you can just reword it to save face...:-)))) And, I will leave her alone.

Just kidding with all this...I don't want anybody to misconstrue my attempts at behind the scenes humor with malice aforethought.

I know you realize how fortunate you are, but you don't truly understand or appreciate the "withdrawal" pains associated with living in the US most of the time, and knowing that Monterrey exists, not to mention any of the other unbelievable venues. It is absolute torture on earth.

You, really and truly are fortunate living in Monterrey...

You can try:

1. I get the girls in 15 minutes and they are loyal as hell to me (unless ElCabron ruins everything with his "share everything" policy... I have to do damage control to what he did today at Prestige).

2. Be my guest. The curvy girl is gone, dunno where. Anyway, all my girls are loyal and they will on the spot tell me if my so called friends, local or monger, want to lay hands on them (as they have already told me).

3. I still insist I get more action than you. More girls than I can shake a stick at them. So many in some places that I just can't go to some clubs (Pasarelas and Bahamas are examples)



[QUOTE=UnospongeBob]"They will never get what USB gets..."

So True...Pero.

"far superior to what USB gets...????"

Uhhhhhhhcccccccccccccccccccccmmmmmmmmmm!!!! Perdoneme???? Disculpame?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

:-)))

You only "get" more because you are there more. What I get for time spent in comparison is UNfricken believable, and you know it...

Are you offering a challenge?

I know, shall I set sights on the little delgada girl you introduced me to at the "XYZ" place, and told me hands off?????....uhmmmmmmmm :-))) You know the temptation: flaca, curvy, cute, sexy, sleek,...ahhhhhh, she has it all.

Let the contest begin...Afterall, I only have a short window of opportunity compared to the Master so the contest would be fair, no?

I will keep my hands off if you retract that offending last statement that I do not get the same level of action that you get. Go ahead, you can just reword it to save face...:-)))) And, I will leave her alone.

Just kidding with all this...I don't want anybody to misconstrue my attempts at behind the scenes humor with malice aforethought.

I know you realize how fortunate you are, but you don't truly understand or appreciate the "withdrawal" pains associated with living in the US most of the time, and knowing that Monterrey exists, not to mention any of the other unbelievable venues. It is absolute torture on earth.

You, really and truly are fortunate living in Monterrey...[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Amigomio]I don't want to contradict my friend USB.

But SEA is SEA.
Mexico is Mexico.



I want nothing to do with the SEA girls. It is not even an option for some of us.

I want to fu_k Latinas. Preferably Mexicanas.

In fact, I am going to fu_k me one today. Just like I did yesterday. And the day before. And...

[QUOTE=Amigomio]You can try:

1. I get the girls in 15 minutes and they are loyal as hell to me (unless ElCabron ruins everything with his "share everything" policy... I have to do damage control to what he did today at Prestige).

2. Be my guest. The curvy girl is gone, dunno where. Anyway, all my girls are loyal and they will on the spot tell me if my so called friends, local or monger, want to lay hands on them (as they have already told me).

3. I still insist I get more action than you. More girls than I can shake a stick at them. So many in some places that I just can't go to some clubs (Pasarelas and Bahamas are examples)[/QUOTE]


This is an unfair assessment. You LIVE here. You have good money to spend on a WEEKLY basis for the girls. You are a commodity. A monetary commodity. A gringo monger that comes into town for a weekend cannot compare to a wealthy Monterrey resident(unless the gringo looks like Brad Pitt). Also, women here will not readily approach a gringo like TJ because they by and large do not speak English. Most often than not, at the end of the day, it is all about the money. Good sex is a secondary benefit to the girl and I would venture to say that many of the girls see no benefit to the sex at all.

I had noticed when I first started frequenting the MP's here that once the girls knew that I spoke passable Spanish and that I lived here, the GFE(DFK/girl orgasms with me inside of her)was more readily available. At times on the very first session. Many MP girls do not want to put forth the effort for a one shot deal.

They want clients.

Weekly clients.

Wealthy clean-cut clients that treat and pay them well.


The majority of the girls here could give a rat's a_s about a guy that rolls into town once every six months unless he spends an exorbitant amount of money on her.

Try asking your girls if they will take a "pay cut($50 a session/2 hours)" with you. More than likely, you will be left holding a twig as opposed to a stick.

I do not try to disillusion myself or other mongers that read this forum about the girls here in Monterrey. By and large, it's all about the Benjamins. Always has been and always will be. If a monger here(Mexican or American) was a real "ladies man", that monger would be scoring indepedently wealthy CDV women for free or getting paid to fu_k them.

And I can guarantee that those guys do exist here in Monterrey.

They just elect not to come onto an anonymous sex site and brag about it.

ElCabron has ruined my relationship with one girl at Infinito... which at the end turned out for best.
And one of the new girls that sat with me, he took care of making her run away as fast as you can think.



[QUOTE=UnospongeBob]Tell us...what exactly did El Cabron pull at Prestige? Inquiring minds want to know. Just use synonyms. I will figure it out. Better yet, perhaps we should hear your version, and his rebuttal, I mean confession. :-)[/QUOTE]

Well Precocious, USB did ask.

I just answered.

And sir, you are right on all angles.
And you know, specially you, that I never brag on those lines.



[QUOTE=Precocious One]This is an unfair assessment. You LIVE here. You have good money to spend on a WEEKLY basis for the girls. You are a commodity. A monetary commodity. A gringo monger that comes into town for a weekend cannot compare to a wealthy Monterrey resident(unless the gringo looks like Brad Pitt). Also, women here will not readily approach a gringo like TJ because they by and large do not speak English. Most often than not, at the end of the day, it is all about the money. Good sex is a secondary benefit to the girl and I would venture to say that many of the girls see no benefit to the sex at all.

I had noticed when I first started frequenting the MP's here that once the girls knew that I spoke passable Spanish and that I lived here, the GFE(DFK/girl orgasms with me inside of her)was more readily available. At times on the very first session. Many MP girls do not want to put forth the effort for a one shot deal.

They want clients.

Weekly clients.

Wealthy clean-cut clients that treat and pay them well.


The majority of the girls here could give a rat's a_s about a guy that rolls into town once every six months unless he spends an exorbitant amount of money on her.

Try asking your girls if they will take a "pay cut($50 a session/2 hours)" with you. More than likely, you will be left holding a twig as opposed to a stick.

I do not try to disillusion myself or other mongers that read this forum about the girls here in Monterrey. By and large, it's all about the Benjamins. Always has been and always will be. If a monger here(Mexican or American) was a real "ladies man", that monger would be scoring indepedently wealthy CDV women for free or getting paid to fu_k them.

And I can guarantee that those guys do exist here in Monterrey.

They just elect not to come onto an anonymous sex site and brag about it.[/QUOTE]

It wasn't me. I did not do it.

What I can not figure out is why those girls are shaking when they come to set with me. ... they then surrender and afterwards rush to the bathroom and change their underwear. hmmm ...

[QUOTE=Amigomio]ElCabron has ruined my relationship with one girl at Infinito... which at the end turned out for best.
And one of the new girls that sat with me, he took care of making her run away as fast as you can think.[/QUOTE]

I will be visting San Luis Potosi and Reynosa on business. Can anyone tell me what places I can visit to have a good time? places that have hot girls?

Jay,

Reynosa belongs to the South Texas Border Towns Thread
They got tons of info on Reynosa, and I think San Luis Potosi belongs to the Central Mexico Thread.

Anyway, I can tell you San Luis is a nice town, but boring as hell.
They have a couple of clubs, expensive clubs, almost as expensive as the ones in the US without the quality in instalations.



[QUOTE=Jay L Jay]I will be visting San Luis Potosi and Reynosa on business. Can anyone tell me what places I can visit to have a good time? places that have hot girls?[/QUOTE]

sessioned with a new girl at d'angy yesterday. twenty-seven years old. three days on the job. very attractive. this is a $40/40 minute place. she permitted the dfk and a complete sweat-drenched session. took the full 40 with a cof ending. she was easily a seven and her service was an eight(she would not permit herself to orgasm with me nor would provide ball-washing).

this level of girl was not available just two short months ago for this type of pricing. due to the economy, her regular job at a legitimate health spa(massage therapists) was terminated. she told me that she needs the money.

if an american monger can afford to take six months off, now is the most opportune time to do so. i am currently seeing some discounting that is similar to what transpired during the intense 1990's socal recession($2.00 beers/$5.00 table dances in the greater la region). and with the current 13-1 exchange rate, one can also enjoy an additional 20 percent discount from previous, historical peso/dollar currency rates.

yesterday, with my customary $20 propina, i fuc_ed for about u.s. $45.00. it was such a great deal, i fuc_ed twice yesterday(one of my favoritas).

forty-five dollars for a strong seven whom provided an eight service. if i did not give the propina, it would have been u.s. $30.00.

incredible. just incredible.