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[QUOTE=Mouse1]Apologies in advance for stupid question, but...[/quote]

Yes, you should apologise because we have a Hotel Thread that deals with your Hotel Problem.

[quote]I'm staying in Le Fenix next week, which I understand has a joiner's fee. I have never stayed at a hotel that has such a thing (or I have managed to avoid it). For various reasons this time I am only interested in ST while I am there. So if I bring a girl back at say 8pm, does the duty manager leap out at me and demand 500Bht (presumably not), or does it go quietly on my bill. Do they wait to see what time the girl emerges? Is the fee for any joiner or just one staying overnight and emerging at 9am? If the fee is for every girl returning at any time, it could get expensive for me (in all modesty!).

Actually I have a strong view about being charged a fee when I have booked a double room, so whatever happens I will argue my case. But don't intend to do that at midnight with a TG in tow... (I have stayed at some smart hotels in the past when the company was paying, and have avoided all issues of ID cards or joiners fees by engaging in animated conversation with the girl as I walk to the lifts, avoiding all eye contact with the staff).

Would be grateful for any clarification.

Thanks

mouse[/QUOTE]Why would you argue the Hotel's policy? makes no sense to me. If you know they have a Joiner fee, book that hotel anyway and expect to bring TG there, then be ready to pay the fee.

They will usually not let the girl go up to the room until she has provided ID (and that is for YOUR security) so they will know and will charge you.

Now, why not book a hotel like Livingstones Lodge on Soi 33? they are Girl Friendly and will not charge you for the company you bring to their hotel.

[QUOTE=Airstriker]We each had a beer in the room, I opened them and she wasn't touching my beer at any time. So we kick it in the bedroom it was quite late by then, maybe 5 am, doing mutual massage and next thing I know my buddy is waking me up at 9am in the morning after several attempts. Even though I made a point to stash cash well, I didn't put it in the safe so she beat me for about 300US.

How common is this scenario, I checked forums before coming but didn't see alot about this scenario.

Any feedback similar stories are welcome.[/QUOTE]Airstriker,

I go along with Terry in terms of Thai P4P usually being very honest persons, but I disagree with him and 1ball that you haven't been drugged. It sounds like you have been knocked out almost immediately without having any memory of what have happened. This is a clear sign for a KO-drug.

I have heard about some girls/katoeys, who apply the drug on their nipples, knowing that most guys will suck on them. Therefore no need to touch any of your drinks, which would be counter-productive anyway. They want to knock you out in your room, not in a bar. This also explains why you have only been drugged for 4 hours, a high dosage can't be applied that way.

Always use your safe and also lock the ID of the girl in there. This way you make sure she won't/can't leave while you are asleep or unconscious.

[QUOTE=Member #2041]All I have to say about this is that you must really scare easily. My take on girls wanting to fuck you bareback is simply this - it´s then YOUR decision to either fuck her bareback, or NOT to fuck her bareback. And I personally don´t give a shit either way. Because when I fuck someone, I ASSUME she´s fucked other guys bareback, and I use my own brain to tell me what to do. As far as I´m concerned, anyone who thinks that they can actually influence other folks behavior on an anonymous forum is naive in the extreme. We are all in charge of our own actions, and it is silly to think otherwise and to act otherwise.[/QUOTE]People think it will never happen to them, But I can (because he doesn't even know this forum exists) say that it has happened to my someone I know. His bargirl wife suddenly developed HIV after 4 years in to his 8 year marriage. She would regularly get pissed and disappear with her mates and come back weeks later but as she was his visa and she had her name on the £30k house and land, although unbeleivable my friend hasn't got it. So where did it come from? Something I saw written on a toilet cubicle door once at the beergarten was ' anygirl who fucks you without a condom is trying to give you HIV' and it does make you think. Out of interest has anybody actually come into contact or heard of anyone who has 'it'. I think it changes your perspective when you do know someone, it can't hurt to have a little discussion as first timers will get some education, I myself went bareback a few times until my friend woke me up with his situation now its a no no. Mind you I have caught urethritis on many occasions from blowjobs and thrush from licking. Now I make them have a swig of listerine before hand, it's easily treated with zithromax but I don't want to be subjected to so much anti-biotic I was taking it every week last time I was there.

[QUOTE=Mouse1]Apologies in advance for stupid question, but...

I'm staying in Le Fenix next week, which I understand has a joiner's fee. I have never stayed at a hotel that has such a thing (or I have managed to avoid it). For various reasons this time I am only interested in ST while I am there. So if I bring a girl back at say 8pm, does the duty manager leap out at me and demand 500Bht (presumably not), or does it go quietly on my bill. Do they wait to see what time the girl emerges? Is the fee for any joiner or just one staying overnight and emerging at 9am? If the fee is for every girl returning at any time, it could get expensive for me (in all modesty!).

Actually I have a strong view about being charged a fee when I have booked a double room, so whatever happens I will argue my case. But don't intend to do that at midnight with a TG in tow... (I have stayed at some smart hotels in the past when the company was paying, and have avoided all issues of ID cards or joiners fees by engaging in animated conversation with the girl as I walk to the lifts, avoiding all eye contact with the staff).

Would be grateful for any clarification.

Thanks

mouse[/QUOTE]I had stayed at the Le Fenix about a month after they opened last year and had brought back a lady to my room after midnight. The security didn't even ask for the lady's ID when we walked thru the main entrance.

I wouldn't stay at this hotel again because the furnishings in the room have sharp corners and you will get hurt when bumping into them no matter how careful you are. These sharp corners are found on the bed, chair and the wall mounted table. They are obviously aware of this problem and had tried to reduce this hazard by covering the corners of the bed with teflon edge guard but they just wouldn't stick and fall off. In the one night that I had stayed at this hotel, I had at least 3 bruises from these exposed sharp corners.

[QUOTE=The Traveler]
Always use your safe and also lock the ID of the girl in there. This way you make sure she won't/can't leave while you are asleep or unconscious.[/QUOTE]
Most Hotels will keep the girl's ID at the front desk so this will not be a viable option. Asking the Hotel staff to call you before the girl leave could have helped in this situation.

[QUOTE=Member #2041]All I have to say about this is that you must really scare easily. my take on girls wanting to fuck you bareback is simply this - it´s then YOUR decision to either fuck her bareback, or NOT to fuck her bareback. And I personally don´t give a shit either way. Because when I fuck someone, I ASSUME she´s fucked other guys bareback, and I use my own brain to tell me what to do. As far as I´m concerned, anyone who thinks that they can actually influence other folks behavior on an anonymous forum is naive in the extreme. We are all in charge of our own actions, and it is silly to think otherwise and to act otherwise.[/QUOTE]

Ah douchebag....it was in response to a question posed by another board member;

Originally Posted by Hoboken Michael
Hey everyone! I wish to write about the fact that I have had now FOUR experiences in my nearly three week stay in BKK where the escort I have had has passively or actively encouraged me to bareback fuck her. Three were club/bar girls and one is supposed to be a bargirl but I learned later from papasan/bar manager that she is really more of a freelancer.

What is up with that? Have any of you experienced similar stuff around here? After I kicked out the freelancer one, I spent the overnight thinking about repercussions. Of which it appears that it is unbelievably unlikely that anything would have or will occur in the future. Two girls with average english skills (for Thai girls) pulled a "no speak english, want to sleep" when I tried to confront them with different questions "Are you trying to have a baby with me, are you taking a pill to stop baby, are you trying to get money for years from me".

The crazy part about all of this is that one of them works at Rainbow 4 and has been one of the two best sex experiences I have had here in the City. I feel awkward alerting members of the forum about her not just because of people avoiding her but because she is open to bareback with relatively handsome farang. The safe thing to do is to not mention her or any of her but then there is no knowledge for other members; then if I inform everyone. We could see all members of Thailand forum wanting to sleep with her.

The girl from Rainbow 4 is probably a 7-7. 5 looks with better than average english skills. Thin, relatively tall, doesn't mind being a bit submissive, easy-going when negotiating price at 2 AM. GFE, PSE and bareback issue was resolved easily with her.compared with other girls. Still, her initiation of it was the only downside and was in my head during and after the two hours with her.

Had no bareback with any but was difficult to resist with two of them in particular. Hmm, dilemmas.

Hoboken Michael

Yes, I scare easy. In 100% of the European and South American cities that I monger in....condom use is almost (over 90%) universal. In Thailand this is not the case based on my experience. If you follow some of the boards on this subject, you will see that a lot of girls who engage in this practice have contracted HIV and many have died. I was posting my opinion.....if edumacted people like you just take the high road.....good karma will come to you.

Call me "naive"......but I do believe that people read this forum to get ideas and exchange them. Why try to be a censor of thought?

(maybe this whole thing should be transferred to the "Safe Sex" area in any case?)

Was in Bangkok for a very short 2 day biz trip. Stayed in JW which is just beside the famous Nana in Soi 4.

So on Friday nite just b4 going back home on Saturday drop into Angel Witch in Nana to look see look see.

Spoted this fair girl who tie her hair to one side. Ask her down from the go-go floor. Bought her a drink. Asked if she can go w me to hotel for ST she say sure.
Paid bar fine of 600 Bht plus 250 Bht for drinks. ST for her is 2500 Bht.

Arrive in hotel she help me strip and I help her strip and then we showered together.

She goes by the name of Aom. is about 19-20 yo.
Looks = 7/10
Boobs = small but tender maybe 31A
BBBJ = 7/10
FJ = 7/10

She speaks very little english and not like in Jkt where I can speak bahasa did not build up any GFE feeling here. Just pure lust and action.

[quote=leo2000]this is one of best place to vist to get a true thai mongering exp. , where i really enjoyed and i feel said when it was demolised a year back.

i am an old hand in thai and my wife is thai. i got hooked to los way back from 1998, i am of indian but spent more than 20 yrs travelling & living overseas for the past 20 yrs, the sad part the indian just don't know how to behave in society, they just made easy money and once they fly out, they have no idea how to behave. sometimes i feel ashamed to tell them that i am india. over years of traveling & living in thai, my wife tell you "kitwoo no no indian" the reason is you behave normal. not talk loud, body language, etc.

mate end of the day, it is numbers, how many people from india travel overseas on holiday? just a handful of guys are enough to brand the rest of them.- like they say in bejing. just check one noodle if the rest of noodles are boiled. so just a idiot is enough. to brand the whole race, i do not blame them period indian's just do not know how to behave in mature society.

i can tell 100's of stories how the fl & bg are ripped off, that is only reason why go-gos, bars just hate indians. they have no clue how to behave. right from the time they get into plane. from what i know in the side info. tg put's one there tought ah on the flights of india & pak to handle the indecent pax.

mate do not blame tg for the hate. just think why it has come. and look around, i can tell you n of incidents. after living, traveling across thai.

look around, how indian's can you find in night life other than cm2. did you come acorss nep, soi cb, soi 33. these guys have no clue, all they end up in cheap mp, beyond this they just don't know and even if venture they have no idea how to behave.

sad mate. we got to live with it.

cheers[/quote]having taken my paid annual leave i decided to take a short vacation and enjoy myself. with that in mind i started to view my mongering options.

i was reading through the forums, and i happened to come across this report, and i must say i agree with you, leo2000.

i myself am an indian, but i was born and raised in the middle east, so i like to think that i am a class above the average indian. please understand that i am not trying to be an arrogant bastard.

i have been in australia for the past three years, and i have found the behavior of the indian community here to be less than the bare minimum one would expect from a human being. i am constantly embarrassed by the behavior of these nri's, some of which include

1) talking in their native tongue to each other at very high volumes,
2) talking in their native tongue to each other even when someone who doesn't speak their language was involved in their conversation not 2 seconds ago,
3) listening to music at such loud volumes, especially in crowded areas and in trains,
4) walking up to people who look like they might be indian and start rattling off questions in their native tongue,
5) littering the streets and spitting on the pavements.

the above mentioned are only a few of the incidents i have personally been part of or witnessed.

due to such unruly behavior, i have taken to telling people who ask me that i am from the middle east instead of from india.

as for the sexual side of indians, i am truly ashamed to say that in my 3 years here, i have read over a dozen accounts of child molestation and [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] by my countrymen, one incident taking place just 2km away from my place of residence in a shopping mall.

however, i must admit that the behavior of indians here are a marked improvement from that which i witnessed in my formative years in bahrain.

it pains and shames me to admit to all this, but it is fact, and i hope that one day i can be proud to say that i hail from india.

p.s. nri. non resident indians i. e. expat indians.

Sorry, I forgot to ask this in my earlier post, but is it absolutely necessary for a reservation at a hotel?

Can you recommend any thats gf and cheap? Thanks.

After rttf, I'm considering the nana hotel.

Any comments/feedback would be appreciated.

Before this turns into another Safe Sex thread why don't we just agree some people will wear, some won't, to each their own etc etc. Personally whether you wear one or not does not bother me, nor does you knowing my choice to wear one or not. Safe Sex thread for this one guys.

[QUOTE=Meepmeep99]People think it will never happen to them, But I can (because he doesn't even know this forum exists) say that it has happened to my someone I know. His bargirl wife suddenly developed HIV after 4 years in to his 8 year marriage. She would regularly get pissed and disappear with her mates and come back weeks later but as she was his visa and she had her name on the £30k house and land. So where did it come from? Something I saw written on a toilet cubicle door once at the beergarten was ' anygirl who fucks you without a condom is trying to give you HIV' and it does make you think. Out of interest has anybody actually come into contact or heard of anyone who has 'it'. I think it changes your perspective when you do know someone, it can't hurt to have a little discussion as first timers will get some education, I myself went bareback a few times until my friend woke me up with his situation now its a no no. Mind you I have caught urethritis on many occasions from blowjobs and thrush from licking. Now I make them have a swig of listerine before hand, it's easily treated with zithromax but I don't want to be subjected to so much anti-biotic I was taking it every week last time I was there.[/QUOTE]

Meep,

You might want to edit your original post. I cut out the part in the quote so no worries. Good luck.

[QUOTE=Meaty]Before this turns into another Safe Sex thread why don't we just agree some people will wear, some won't, to each their own etc etc. Personally whether you wear one or not does not bother me, nor does you knowing my choice to wear one or not. Safe Sex thread for this one guys.

MeepMeep, Did you mis-edit your last post, your English is not the easiest to interprete (no offence intended) but i think you have given away more about your family life than you intended in your post..please recheck and edit if necessary.[/QUOTE]

Agree!....no more here!

Any more news on this subject?

I would also like to go out and drink in a smokefree environment, without someone saying "why come to asia if you don,t like the smoke"

Why should i choose my destinations around other people addictions!

At what date is it actually being enforced. i thought it was 1st June, but sooner would be better!

BF

QUOTE=Meaty]No bars on Soi Cowboy are allowing smoking inside the bars, although most bars who anticipated this law several months back built outside areas, smoking is allowed in these.

Nana Plaza is hit and miss, the 4 Rainbow bars, predominantly Japanese clientele have allowed smoking since the ban came into effect and continue to do so, every other bar in the plaza banned smoking, but according to various sources many bars are starting to allow smoking again..but i havn't seen that for myself.

On the subject of bans, don't forget that there will be a ban on alcohol sales starting Saturday and running till Monday (some sources quote Sunday)...due to more elections. If you sniff, dig and look hard enough you will find somewhere serving, but it won't be obvious. Apparently patpong served alcohol all last weekend despite the ban, this weekend, who knows.[/QUOTE]

I'm just reading about the crab lice story that one of our ISG brothers had (vs. Eden).

It's ironic, because I just had a lenghty discussion with Bruce (head manager at Eden) today. He mentioned how all of his girls get tested once a month for HIV, and once a week for STD's.

All tests are covered by Eden. The girls don't pay for it. However, if a girl isn't responsible, and is late on her testing timetable (Eden keeps tab of every girl's schedule), the club fines her. So you know those girls are getting themselves tested rigorously! I sat at the bar for about 45 minutes early in the day (when the ladies were walking in), and I must have seen about 8 girls drop off their medical tests into Bruce's box!!!

Plus, I saw their little STD medical notebooks, with MD stamps of approval. As a client, you can ask to see the latest tests and when it was performed.

Honestly, I do not know what else a den club like Eden can do. I don't know of any other establishment like this in the world. They are on the ball. Kudos to the French duo of Bruce (head manager) and Marc (the owner) for running a sound project and respecting their girls, and essentially protecting the client (as best as they can), in the process!

BRAVO! Vive La France!

[QUOTE=VileMaggot]Sorry, I forgot to ask this in my earlier post, but is it absolutely necessary for a reservation at a hotel?

Can you recommend any thats gf and cheap? Thanks.

After rttf, I'm considering the nana hotel.

Any comments/feedback would be appreciated.[/QUOTE]Wow, you must be really good at searching. I wonder which Thread you dod read? Certainly not the one on Hotels because if you did you would have posted your request there.