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[QUOTE=Bkkdog;2099250]Nope. This is her.[/QUOTE]Wow very pretty indeed despite a funny nose job. Whoops supposedly no nose job, but I think she may have been fibbing there. Does not look quite natural to me. Close to a 10. One wonders why a girl wants to mess with her natural beauty. Would be interesting to see what she looked like as a teenager.
Thai girls strangely fib about surgeries even in some cases where the silicones are extremely obvious. One of CH girls took over a year before she would admit to the nose job, because she thought it was such a good one she could pass for natural.
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[QUOTE=Bkkdog;2099250]Nope. This is her.[/QUOTE]Great looking gal. If she provided PSE and MSOG then I would be willing to spring for the cash. Sadly in Thailand as looking increase, performance decreases.
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[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2099282]Great looking gal. If she provided PSE and MSOG then I would be willing to spring for the cash. Sadly in Thailand as looking increase, performance decreases.[/QUOTE]I don't see the correlation (or anti-correlation) is really strong, however there is the concept that fabulous lookers can get customers without needing to perform or have a good attitude. When the girl has a good attitude, her performance can still be crap, lacking experience.
The other problem is fabulous lookers who also perform get extracted from the P4 P availability pool quick and lively. I just don't find the real stunners can last unless there are problems attached to them, so that no one wants to be the sugar daddy.
If you want porn stars then the problem is bigger since stunners just don't need to perform like pornstars. Incentive is low.
My last stunning soapy girl was total crap yet she acted like she had had plenty of Farang giks that were happy with her.
Some guys don't need anything other than a beautiful hole to fuck. No skills required whatsoever. Not even DFK, DATY and a good BBBJ.
I have got by with no BJ if the girl was good in other respects, and stunning. LOL.
I have not been trained to take the lousiest looking girls. I find the very plain girls can be equally crappy.
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[QUOTE=Syzygies;2099301]I don't see the correlation (or anti-correlation) is really strong, however there is the concept that fabulous lookers can get customers without needing to perform or have a good attitude. When the girl has a good attitude, her performance can still be crap, lacking experience.
The other problem is fabulous lookers who also perform get extracted from the P4 P availability pool quick and lively. I just don't find the real stunners can last unless there are problems attached to them, so that no one wants to be the sugar daddy.
If you want porn stars then the problem is bigger since stunners just don't need to perform like pornstars. Incentive is low.
My last stunning soapy girl was total crap yet she acted like she had had plenty of Farang giks that were happy with her.
Some guys don't need anything other than a beautiful hole to fuck. No skills required whatsoever. Not even DFK, DATY and a good BBBJ.
I have got by with no BJ if the girl was good in other respects, and stunning. LOL.
I have not been trained to take the lousiest looking girls. I find the very plain girls can be equally crappy.[/QUOTE]Yep, punters with low expectations are the problem. Also at issue is the fact the local guys just want a hole to stick it in as well. It's a trophy them, so the experience itself matters little. In addition Thais attitude towards sex is a problem. They are by nature very conservative. I remember one bar girl over a decade ago with whom I tried to engage in some kinky talk in the room and she looked at me and said, "I am not a dirty girl." Found that funny since she had probably been pounded by over a kilometer of pecker over the past year. It is a bit better these days, but not much. Seems the uglier a gal is the more willing she is to embrace pleasures of the flesh. The Thai soaps depict gals that are very pretty but at the same time are a bit frigid. They also dress very conservatively. If a gal is the least bit erotic or sexual, she is "bad." They all strive to be pretty and cold. It's the trend. Contrast that with some of the Chinese tourist gals walking around BKK with asses handing out of their short shorts. Smile at one of them and they'll shoot you a look like they'll ride your cock off in bed. Love 'em. A far cry from the demure Thai gal. Uber slutty girls with dirty minds are one of life's true joys. I've always said, "I like the girl next door if I am living next to a brothel."
If customers were more demanding and would voice displeasure to the provider and management, we might see a change. I am not holding my breath.
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[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2099550]Yep, punters with low expectations are the problem. Also at issue is the fact the local guys just want a hole to stick it in as well. It's a trophy them, so the experience itself matters little. In addition Thais attitude towards sex is a problem. They are by nature very conservative. I remember one bar girl over a decade ago with whom I tried to engage in some kinky talk in the room and she looked at me and said, "I am not a dirty girl." Found that funny since she had probably been pounded by over a kilometer of pecker over the past year. It is a bit better these days, but not much. Seems the uglier a gal is the more willing she is to embrace pleasures of the flesh. The Thai soaps depict gals that are very pretty but at the same time are a bit frigid. They also dress very conservatively. If a gal is the least bit erotic or sexual, she is "bad." They all strive to be pretty and cold. It's the trend. Contrast that with some of the Chinese tourist gals walking around BKK with asses handing out of their short shorts. Smile at one of them and they'll shoot you a look like they'll ride your cock off in bed. Love 'em. A far cry from the demure Thai gal. Uber slutty girls with dirty minds are one of life's true joys. I've always said, "I like the girl next door if I am living next to a brothel."
If customers were more demanding and would voice displeasure to the provider and management, we might see a change. I am not holding my breath.[/QUOTE]Here is a video clip of sex with a Thai pretty and her boyfriend. With the exception of doggy and mish, this is how our session was, including the hugging. Oh and of course no BB and cum in pussy like this video, but most Thai girls do it with their boyfriend.
[URL]https://m.spankbang.com/4o8j/video/thai[/URL]+pretty+fuck+with+boyfriend.
I would say, this is how most of the (pretty) Thai girls make love with their boyfriends. They are however mostly not into the marathon sex sessions but some can go for a good while but most are not used to a usually bigger Western cock.
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[QUOTE=Bkkdog;2099591]Here is a video clip of sex with a Thai pretty and her boyfriend. With the exception of doggy and mish, this is how our session was, including the hugging. Oh and of course no BB and cum in pussy like this video, but most Thai girls do it with their boyfriend.
[URL]https://m.spankbang.com/4o8j/video/thai[/URL]+pretty+fuck+with+boyfriend.
I would say, this is how most of the (pretty) Thai girls make love with their boyfriends. They are however mostly not into the marathon sex sessions but some can go for a good while but most are not used to a usually bigger Western cock.[/QUOTE]I notice she made the classic Thai girl mistake of just pouncing on his dick and pumping it for pre-fuck oral foreplay as though she was trying to make him cum that way quickly instead of doing it to make him hornier or harder for fucking. There was an utter lack of sensuality about it, just pumping, zero attention to his balls, no slow and sensual kissing and licking along the sides or anything other than dick in mouth with hand wrapped around it and start pumping. Honestly, it didn't look like that was making him hornier or harder either. I would need to fix that problem if I were with this girl.
I also believe getting a girl to slow the hell down and at least "pretend" to want to engage in something sensual and loving rather than the rapid fire mechanics of it tends to get them hotter and hornier as well. Frankly, I have never needed to keep a tube of lube handy like this couple did except for when I deflowered a nervous but eager little 23 y.o.. about two years ago. But I can see that this girl is so focused and worried about launching into the mechanics of trying to make him cum that she physically would not be in the mood or ready to be penetrated after pouncing on his dick and just pumping it like that.
I do quite like the post-fuck kissing and nuzzling she engaged in here. However, again, nice as it is afterwards, it is even better imo when that kind of slow and sensual behavior is done earlier, to get things started and especially during any oral foreplay activities. But it seems she couldn't be bothered to address his dick with those slow, sensual and meaningful kisses during the oral foreplay phase or just didn't think of it. That is where us reminding them to think of it at the right time is useful. LOL.
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[QUOTE=EihTooms;2099603]I notice she made the classic Thai girl mistake of just pouncing on his dick and pumping it for pre-fuck oral foreplay as though she was trying to make him cum that way quickly instead of doing it to make him hornier or harder for fucking. There was an utter lack of sensuality about it, just pumping, zero attention to his balls, no slow and sensual kissing and licking along the sides or anything other than dick in mouth with hand wrapped around it and start pumping. Honestly, it didn't look like that was making him hornier or harder either. I would need to fix that problem if I were with this girl.
I also believe getting a girl to slow the hell down and at least "pretend" to want to engage in something sensual and loving rather than the rapid fire mechanics of it tends to get them hotter and hornier as well. Frankly, I have never needed to keep a tube of lube handy like this couple did except for when I deflowered a nervous but eager little 23 y.o.. about two years ago. But I can see that this girl is so focused and worried about launching into the mechanics of trying to make him cum that she physically would not be in the mood or ready to be penetrated after pouncing on his dick and just pumping it like that.
I do quite like the post-fuck kissing and nuzzling she engaged in here. However, again, nice as it is afterwards, it is even better imo when that kind of slow and sensual behavior is done earlier, to get things started and especially during any oral foreplay activities. But it seems she couldn't be bothered to address his dick with those slow, sensual and meaningful kisses during the oral foreplay phase or just didn't think of it. That is where us reminding them to think of it at the right time is useful. LOL.[/QUOTE]Yes, I would be quite meh with a session like that. Certainly wouldn't be worth the prices dudes are paying at the Lord to me. Very pedestrian. I prefer a far nastier gal. I want a gal to pull my pecker out when we enter the room, drop to her knees and get started. Eye contact during the BJ with that wanton look. Love to then just pick 'em up, pull their pants down, bend them over and bury my face into them. That's my idea of a GFE/PSE. None of this, "oh don't touch me till I shower" and all that. I want to get to it a bit. Then a shower is ok.
This is my expectation no matter how good looking the gal is. And especially if I was paying close to 200 USD. In fact, for that price I'd expect a monster skill set as well. A gal who could bring me close to orgasm a few times, then back it down a few times before I shoot. Seems very few gals here work on their skills. Had two regulars that always had a new trick every time I was with them. That was great. Alas, they are gone. Most of these gals are still sub-50 USD pops in my book. Amazed that guys don't expect more, especially considering what they are spending. As one dude said here and I agree, "I'd rather have a great meal and then head home for a wank."
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[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2099610]. Amazed that guys don't expect more, especially considering what they are spending. [/QUOTE]Because many guys coming in Thailand for 2 weeks holiday, live all year in a sex-prison country where all the P4 P cost alot of money or they spend all year wanking on the live webcam. So when they arrive in Thailand, they are happy with very low standard service.
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[QUOTE=ChristianG;2099666]Because many guys coming in Thailand for 2 weeks holiday, live all year in a sex-prison country where all the P4 P cost alot of money or they spend all year wanking on the live webcam. So when they arrive in Thailand, they are happy with very low standard service.[/QUOTE]I never really was; even on my first trip. In fact, I was disappointed with the performance of most of the gals. Paled in comparison to every one of my GFs in the US. But, it was the amazing availability and the ridiculously cheap cost that hooked me. Gals for 12.50 USD to 25 USD. At that price I was not so concerned with performance. But at today's prices, I expect more.
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[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2099550] {snip} Found that funny since she had probably been pounded by over a kilometer of pecker over the past year. {snip}[/QUOTE]ROFLMFAO.
I thought this was so funny that I actually did the math. But "a kilometer of pecker" works out to be more than 17 times per day, 365 days per year.
I'm going to use this line sometime, tho. Hope you don't mind!
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[QUOTE=EihTooms;2099603]I notice she made the classic Thai girl mistake of just pouncing on his dick and pumping it for pre-fuck oral foreplay as though she was trying to make him cum that way quickly instead of doing it to make him hornier or harder for fucking. There was an utter lack of sensuality about it, just pumping, zero attention to his balls, no slow and sensual kissing and licking along the sides or anything other than dick in mouth with hand wrapped around it and start pumping. Honestly, it didn't look like that was making him hornier or harder either. I would need to fix that problem if I were with this girl.
I also believe getting a girl to slow the hell down and at least "pretend" to want to engage in something sensual and loving rather than the rapid fire mechanics of it tends to get them hotter and hornier as well. Frankly, I have never needed to keep a tube of lube handy like this couple did except for when I deflowered a nervous but eager little 23 y.o.. about two years ago. But I can see that this girl is so focused and worried about launching into the mechanics of trying to make him cum that she physically would not be in the mood or ready to be penetrated after pouncing on his dick and just pumping it like that.
I do quite like the post-fuck kissing and nuzzling she engaged in here. However, again, nice as it is afterwards, it is even better imo when that kind of slow and sensual behavior is done earlier, to get things started and especially during any oral foreplay activities. But it seems she couldn't be bothered to address his dick with those slow, sensual and meaningful kisses during the oral foreplay phase or just didn't think of it. That is where us reminding them to think of it at the right time is useful. LOL.[/QUOTE]Ha ha. I think this is a really fun / funny subject, even if a little off thread topic. LOL I found the movie very boring so tended to jump forward to get to the end quicker. All Thai porn is pretty crap and I don't like Japanese stuff either (a little bit warped for me).
He got fuck all DFK. A little Thai peck or nuzzle. Maybe I did not watch to the end. I need DFK up front. The hand job looked crap. One reason I just don't take hand on dick hardly at all this 90%+ of Thai girls have no clue about it and need training.
At least he got some sort of BBBJ. Was not the fastest action BBBJ I ever saw so I give her some points for that. Some Thai girls don't really expect to give BBBJ at all, or bomb out after a very short time with jaw ache (like this girl's BJ did not last that long). I presume no DATY is normal for Thai men.
We take into account this is a porno movie and not totally representative of the average Thai couple. Girl has big tits and guy probably is bigger than average for Thai (guessing since I have not really seen much Thai cock other than pornos). Is it realistic the Thai boy is underneath for the duration? I don't know. I thought that might be more prevalent for old Farangs to be honest, especially if rather fat. It does burn energy to take a doggy if carrying large weight.
The guy cums in just under 4 minutes. LOL This is not me. Even BB I am not so sensitive, not so excited as to cum that quick. Maybe if sex starved for 2 months. LOL Even my shortest sex sessions go for 40 minutes, with at least 20 minutes of actually dick in pussy fucking sometimes much longer. For ST Hotel, even if have only 1 hour, I use it fully. 5 minutes showering, 10 to 15 minutes DATY sometimes 25 minutes for unusual girls, then BBBJ rarely more than 5 minutes and fucking in lots of positions. Fortunately my ST Hotel usually gives me 90 ins to 2 hours, since I attend on less busy nights. I am reminded of the Japanese joke of 3, 4, 5. (3 inches, 4 mins, 5K) Does anyone get their money's worth with a 4 minute fuck.
I sometimes require multiple bouts of sex with only short gaps to cum, and my girls have to have stamina.
There is little doubt that the very experienced well trained Thai girls can perform much better than this, and they do. My Shark girl has the big tits as well as giving fairly good DFK (limited by braces maybe just slightly) and a better BBBJ including brushing the big tits against my balls during the BJ, which really works for me (I must admit I trained her to do this. It is not natural instinct). However good girls learn what the customer likes very quickly and hone in on it.
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[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2099550]Uber slutty girls with dirty minds are one of life's true joys. I've always said, "I like the girl next door if I am living next to a brothel."
If customers were more demanding and would voice displeasure to the provider and management, we might see a change. I am not holding my breath.[/QUOTE]I like girls to be well behaved outside the bedroom. I am not keen for them to look like obvious hookers and I certainly would not be keen to walk around with LBs too much. Yok of Tulip was a good example of a girl in the old days who could dress very normally conservative outside the shop, so did not look so tarty, if fact hardly looked even slightly sexy in conservative dress even with a good body in those days.
Other day the police visited the room across the hallway from my apartment. As I went past the door was open so I could see a reasonable looking girl inside. Seems the management had called the police, to visit a new tenant. Makes me wonder if we have a working girl or two and they having been having weird men arrive on occasions. I don't leave my room that frequently so probably would not have known anything was going on, unless I spotted strange older Thai guys arriving on various occasions. At same time there were two strange Thai men hanging in courtyard below. No idea if they were boyfriends, pimps, customers, police detectives, or what. All wild supposition. I don't really know if there is hooking going on at all. Just can't think what other problem would cause the management to call the police. LOL Maybe I lack imagination. Could be drugs related, for all I know. That would be a common problem in Thailand.
Never seen a police visit ever before.
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[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2099550] The Thai soaps depict gals that are very pretty but at the same time are a bit frigid. They also dress very conservatively. If a gal is the least bit erotic or sexual, she is "bad." They all strive to be pretty and cold. [/QUOTE]Yes that is pretty right. Couple that with some girls very inexperienced and particularly inexperienced with Farang ways, and you have a such a lot of disaster girls. Yet I could swear that Soapy girls were performing vastly better 15 and 20 years ago. I don't know what went wrong, other than a lot of surgeries. I must have been easier to please and I did have a good mamasan at CP2 who could give me comments about which of the girls I fancied, might be good fun. Even picked up a couple of short term GFs from there. One girl from that era I am still in contact with. She lives in Chaingmai. Maybe coming up to 35 YO now but still looks okay.
Soapy girls seem to mostly want quick fuck guys, no DFK, some even refusing DATY, bit of a BJ if you are lucky although some so bad at it that you ask her to stop it. A lot of bad figures covered up and hard to see that with girls seated. Wasn't that way in the old times. To be fair The Lord maybe a better standard. I have only a sample of 1 to date. She was good enough looking and good body but service was average to weak. Definitely no repeat. How to strike lucky in there, I don't know.
Annies may have a lot of old ugly girls, but at least in my experience most make a pretty good effort for the service, e.g. Aor 24 (not an ugly one by any means and sexy model type she was)
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[QUOTE=Syzygies;2099761]Yes that is pretty right. Couple that with some girls very inexperienced and particularly inexperienced with Farang ways, and you have a such a lot of disaster girls. Yet I could swear that Soapy girls were performing vastly better 15 and 20 years ago. I don't know what went wrong, other than a lot of surgeries. I must have been easier to please and I did have a good mamasan at CP2 who could give me comments about which of the girls I fancied, might be good fun. Even picked up a couple of short term GFs from there. One girl from that era I am still in contact with. She lives in Chaingmai. Maybe coming up to 35 YO now but still looks okay.
Soapy girls seem to mostly want quick fuck guys, no DFK, some even refusing DATY, bit of a BJ if you are lucky although some so bad at it that you ask her to stop it. Wasn't that way in the old times.[/QUOTE]Absolutely. 18 years ago when I moved here a soapy was a true experience. From the time you entered the room till you left. CP2 was amazing. That's where I had my first soapy in '99.
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[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2099766]Absolutely. 18 years ago when I moved here a soapy was a true experience. From the time you entered the room till you left. CP2 was amazing. That's where I had my first soapy in '99.[/QUOTE]That would have been about the year I picked a part time GF out of there which lasted about 4 years, and caused me to not monger too much for those 4 years. Obviously I couldn't use CP2 any more after that. Unfortunate because there was a girl I really fancied (even though not skinny) called Gay and never got to try because she was a close friend of my very jealous GF at the time. Bad luck although I did return to CP2 after the 4 years. It was still alright then for another 2 years maybe. After the Thaksin era sweep out of all the TaiYai (ThaiYai) girls, and girls of dubious age, it started to go downhill rapidly. I suppose that was well before 2005 can't recall the exact year of the sweep out. I see he became PM in 2001 so can't have been too long after that the sweep out came, and the big decline started. I recall that bars were asked to close earlier as well for a while. Nataree was missed by the big cleanout presumably due to high up influence. I decided to try some Oilies probably as late as 2007. Ha ha funny that.