Bangkok Massage Parlors - Except TULIP and ANNIES!

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2099776]That would have been about the year I picked a part time GF out of there which lasted about 4 years, and caused me to not monger too much for those 4 years. Obviously I couldn't use CP2 any more after that. Unfortunate because there was a girl I really fancied (even though not skinny) called Gay and never got to try because she was a close friend of my very jealous GF at the time. Bad luck although I did return to CP2 after the 4 years. It was still alright then for another 2 years maybe. After the Thaksin era sweep out of all the TaiYai (ThaiYai) girls, and girls of dubious age, it started to go downhill rapidly. I suppose that was well before 2005 can't recall the exact year of the sweep out. I see he became PM in 2001 so can't have been too long after that the sweep out came, and the big decline started. I recall that bars were asked to close earlier as well for a while. Nataree was missed by the big cleanout presumably due to high up influence. I decided to try some Oilies probably as late as 2007. Ha ha funny that.[/QUOTE]Yes, the social order crack down that began in earnest in '02 was the start of the decline for soapies, some FL places, and GoGos. PSE Oilies peaked about '10 or so. After the appearance of coyote or agency girls the GoGo scene was pretty much over. At least for me. Can't think of one aspect of the BKK P4 P scene that has improved since the floods of '11, which seemed to have a very big effect on the FL scene. Since '14 it's really gone downhill. Suk is just a mess these days. Just a horrible demographic roaming the streets. Can't blame the gals for not wanting to be out.

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At least he got some sort of BBBJ. Was not the fastest action BBBJ I ever saw so I give her some points for that. Some Thai girls don't really expect to give BBBJ at all, or bomb out after a very short time with jaw ache (like this girl's BJ did not last that long). I presume no DATY is normal for Thai men.
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[/QUOTE]Yes, we must presume there was no DATY before the clip began because she was still wearing panties. He could have pulled them aside, but, probably not. So, zero DATY for her. Then I suppose it is possible he told her before the clip began something like, "Honey, whatever you do, don't you dare touch my balls with your hands, fingers, lips, tongue or anything else. I hate that. Oh, and don't even think of kissing or licking down the sides of my shaft. And you know how I like everything done to my dick fast and unsensual? That's how we're doing it this time, too. Where's the lube?"

Seriously, though, I suspect there is still the old problem of "Face" at play in these matters. Are so many Thai girls really incapable of treating a dick with their mouth and hands as though they aren't in a hurry to get this horrible experience over with ASAP? Absolutely not. But if they take their time, appear to relish the moment and the contact, go about it slowly, sensually and as though they are in no hurry to fulfill this unfortunate requirement and move on, they run the risk of us thinking they might actually enjoy the feel, smell and taste of cock. And how does that fit in with their constant worry about saving "Face"?

When it comes to DATY, the most common reaction I get from Thai girls is they can't believe any man would WANT to "subjugate" himself to do such a thing. They see it as a decision to subjugate oneself for the sake of another rather than simply giving a gift of pleasure to another. And they can't imagine how someone could squeeze out any pleasure of their own by doing it for another person.

There is a local shop girl I dated for a while. Not P4P. I loved DATY for this girl, did it every time we were alone together. She was a bit uncomfortable about it at first but when she grew more comfortable and I learned all the right moves, angles and buttons to push (very hidden and tricky with this girl) to give her the orgasms of her life that way, she totally loved it. She missed it when we weren't together. She sent me multiple "I Love You" Line stickers and messages daily with allusions to it and about wanting more of it tonight or tomorrow. And I think she really did feel warm and cuddly love feelings for me overall. But this was one of those girls who was great to DATY and fuck but was a total washout when it came to BBBJ, even as mere oral foreplay. The closest I got to any oral contact from her was once or twice some very tentative licking around the edges during 69. But I am not a big fan of 69 for the sake of my pleasure. For her pleasure I was happy to oblige. But for me 69 goes nowhere. I would never be able to finish that way because, among other things, it is essentially upside down from where I need a tongue to be for me to finish orally.

Naturally, her lack of even remotely equal reciprocation became an issue in our relationship. I needed her to concentrate orally on my pleasure to a decent finish every now and then just as I had dozens and dozens of times over a couple of years concentrated orally on her pleasure to a much, much more than decent finish. When I broached the subject with her quite directly, she said she is fine with it during 69 but no other way. Said she really, really wanted to do that for me but was "shy" and worried about not being very good at it. Hmm. Also, her truly puzzled response was, "Why would I want to do that for you if I wasn't also being pleasured?"

[QUOTE=PVMonger;2099735]ROFLMFAO.

I thought this was so funny that I actually did the math. But "a kilometer of pecker" works out to be more than 17 times per day, 365 days per year.[/QUOTE]Apparently, you only counted the length of each dick. Better to count every thrust as mileage, since we do it with cars (all that commuting to work and back adds up, it's not just one 10 km trip). In that case "kilometer of a pecker" can be achieved in a month or so by an average hooker.

[QUOTE=Crocodilexp;2099967]Apparently, you only counted the length of each dick. Better to count every thrust as mileage, since we do it with cars (all that commuting to work and back adds up, it's not just one 10 km trip). In that case "kilometer of a pecker" can be achieved in a month or so by an average hooker.[/QUOTE]Yes, not counting per stroke. Maybe if not counting per stroke we could have a "meters of penis" standard. Every 50 mtrs equals one olympic. That would be the length of an olympic swimming pool. We can talk in olympics of penis.

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2100016]Yes, not counting per stroke. Maybe if not counting per stroke we could have a "meters of penis" standard. Every 50 mtrs equals one olympic. That would be the length of an olympic swimming pool. We can talk in olympics of penis.[/QUOTE]This reminds me of the much superior "cost per stroke" metric I introduced more than 13 years ago on another website. To quote a portion of that ground-breaking report, which admittedly is a bit off topic given it pertained to a budget casa in Sao Paulo: "In and out, in and out, with each stroke I could feel pennies of my wealth dissipating (I estimate that over the course of the hour, I may have had 300 or 400 strokes; that works out to about 3 cents a stroke, at today's exchange rate of 1 real = US $0. 33)."

The good old days.

It sounds like there is no sign of improvement.

The last time I went to Tulip it was horrible. If golf is being cited as one of the better ones that's a sad state of affairs.

It seems like there is to much nostalgia I got over that and left Thailand it used to be great for availability looks and price and good service. I also prefer the Chinese look tall girls or Japaneses are also cuter than Thai. I have had some great service with Chinese hookers so with the main advantage of Thailand being availability and price now gone I am thinking of an alternative base for my trip does anyone have any experience with Vietnam? As I should think the prices are good and I think Viet girls generally look better than Thai anyway.

Igzca it was maybe you but I read a post or posts years ago about run getting rather loose and staining people and the sheets brown.

Unfortunately I never got to try my size on her but seems she would handle anything well despite being small. The best I had for that was Yok very accommodating and strong endurance she could take on a whole team but for mongers who are not large sized I would imagine it might be like dipping in a pool.

Dextro sol did you say run jumped on you bareback? Did you catch anything as she was always giving snow white customers the clap.

Now that she is retired in Phuket with an American I wonder if she exclusively stains his sheets.

[QUOTE=LoveHole69;2100159]I have had some great service with Chinese hookers[/QUOTE]Where? I haven't been to PRC, but had plenty of Chinese hookers (including PRC) all over SE Asia, and good performers are few and far between. I do like the Chinese MILF look, though.

[QUOTE=LoveHole69;2100159]does anyone have any experience with Vietnam? As I should think the prices are good and I think Viet girls generally look better than Thai anyway[/QUOTE]Attitudes in Vietnam are atrocious, to the point that not even cheap mongering is worthwhile (at least HCMC, I hear Hanoi is worse). Oddly enough, I had occasional decent experiences with Vietnamese hookers in other places (Laos, Malaysia), but not even a single memorable one Vietnam itself, and it's not for the lack of trying. Attitude-wise, my top 20% of experiences in Vietnam are on par with bottom 20% in Thailand.

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2099799]Can't think of one aspect of the BKK P4 P scene that has improved since the floods of '11, which seemed to have a very big effect on the FL scene. Since '14 it's really gone downhill. Suk is just a mess these days. Just a horrible demographic roaming the streets. Can't blame the gals for not wanting to be out.[/QUOTE]Indeed, the Suk FL scene went downhill fast, I miss that the most. Back before 2010, there have been hundreds of decent FL streetwalkers on any given night, easy to get 2 pops for 1000 baht, and they were generally pleasant. Plenty of normal girls too, part-timers. The few dozen dregs out there these days are downright terrifying, and on rare occasion that I managed to find a non-repulsive one, service has been decidedly underwhelming.

Unfortunately, it's not only Thailand, I can't think of many places worldwide that have improved for mongering over the last 5 years. Budapest is far worse, Jakarta is still OK but worse, Singapore is worse, Phnom Penh is obviously worse. Only Vientiane has improved (or at least I discovered a dozen brothels I wasn't aware of before). Do any experienced mongers here know of other scenes that got better lately?

Just visited Ratchadapisek early last week and stopped by The Lord. They only had few girls at the time and the price was too high, around 8000 baht (modaf*kn ripoff). The girls looked okay, nothing special so I moved on to Alaina. I picked 1 girl, 2000 baht for 1 HR 30 min. The room was small, they didn't have large bath tub and it's kinda dirty, unlike my previous experiences at other parlors. The service was okay, the girl had dark skin and spoke little English. We showered together and she gave me some little massage, I didn't enjoy myself much so I just had a quick sex with her and gave her some tip then leaved. The mamasan gave me her number, promised there will be more beautiful girls next time but I'm not sure I'll go to that place again. I'll come back to Bangkok at the end of the year so anyone can give me some recommendation? Also are Ocean Massage and Colonze 2 the same place? Maybe I'm going to check out LE Madame, Emmanuelle and Caesar's, and some girls on the Smooci app too.

[QUOTE=LadyMontbarron;2100939]Just visited Ratchadapisek early last week and stopped by The Lord. They only had few girls at the time and the price was too high, around 8000 baht (modaf*kn ripoff). The girls looked okay, nothing special so I moved on to Alaina. I picked 1 girl, 2000 baht for 1 HR 30 min. The room was small, they didn't have large bath tub and it's kinda dirty, unlike my previous experiences at other parlors. The service was okay, the girl had dark skin and spoke little English. We showered together and she gave me some little massage, I didn't enjoy myself much so I just had a quick sex with her and gave her some tip then leaved. The mamasan gave me her number, promised there will be more beautiful girls next time but I'm not sure I'll go to that place again. I'll come back to Bangkok at the end of the year so anyone can give me some recommendation? Also are Ocean Massage and Colonze 2 the same place? Maybe I'm going to check out LE Madame, Emmanuelle and Caesar's, and some girls on the Smooci app too.[/QUOTE]Ocean is the old Colonze 2, yes. Emmanuelle has merged with Amsterdam and so boosted the quality of girl selections, considerably.

In any place girls are not guaranteed to be any good. I would suggest try for value Ocean, Meree, Evita, Merci (Maxi). See if you get lucky. In higher price bracket have Emmanuelle.

Years ago I went to Caesar's and found it was mostly for Asians with attempts to gouge about double the price for Farangs. Other places have a more reasonable Farang surcharge that is fixed, and not at discretion of how much the papasan thinks can be ripped off.

My last visit to Emmanuelle I had a stunning slim girl that was hopeless for experience and skills and general cooperation. Shit bad luck happens.

I went to Cherry massage Tues night. I was hoping to meet Yok, but was told she is no longer in Bangkok. My back up was Kiwi. Kiwi's pic on the website are dated, she's a little bigger now. Cut to the chase: I was a little leery about my selection, but once we got going, she did not disappoint. Despite her larger size, Kiwi is a performer. (Me too, LOL.) She has great BJ skills. She got into the session, which had lots moaning from her and DFK. Lots of positions and A+ too. Because of her bigger size, she can take a pounding. Kiwi probably isn't for most here, But I had a great time with her.

This is my first visit to Thailand. I am Staying in Bangkok for 4 days near Soi Cowboy as well as in Pattaya and Phuket for a few more days. Heard that Ratchadapisek road in Bangkok is a hub for many soapy massage parlors. Is it worth visiting this place for the sole purpose of getting a better soapy massage there instead of places around Soi Cowboy? Or should I try these kind of massages in Pattaya for better experience?

[QUOTE=PhilAndererer;2101316]This is my first visit to Thailand. I am Staying in Bangkok for 4 days near Soi Cowboy as well as in Pattaya and Phuket for a few more days. Heard that Ratchadapisek road in Bangkok is a hub for many soapy massage parlors. Is it worth visiting this place for the sole purpose of getting a better soapy massage there instead of places around Soi Cowboy? Or should I try these kind of massages in Pattaya for better experience?[/QUOTE]No no. Definetly avoid the pattaya ones. Tourist traps and the most mechanical girls.

[QUOTE=PhilAndererer;2101316]This is my first visit to Thailand. I am Staying in Bangkok for 4 days near Soi Cowboy as well as in Pattaya and Phuket for a few more days. Heard that Ratchadapisek road in Bangkok is a hub for many soapy massage parlors. Is it worth visiting this place for the sole purpose of getting a better soapy massage there instead of places around Soi Cowboy? Or should I try these kind of massages in Pattaya for better experience?[/QUOTE]It's very much a matter of opinion. I have struggled to get really good Soapy experiences in recent times at Ratchada, because I am a big Farang maybe, or more demanding for GFE, fun, and extended sex. My girls tried at Annies and Chrome bar performed way better (only a few are good enough looking). I had a really good girl at Evita (not in Ratchada). I also had a reasonable girl in Ocean. I had a soso girl at the Lord (the extra price did not convert to extra good time).

Many guys hate bars, but I just happen to be able to have fun there and get really good girls sometimes, while wasting some money of drinks and BF. Just have to be prepared to move on if the right type of girl I not there. I can't say why but my success rate with girls I want to repeat seems highest at the bars. This is partly form being able to sit with them and chat for a while to gauge how well we might get on. It is partly from being able to see that girl's body properly to know she is really hot for my taste. It is partly from being able to select girls experienced with Farangs and preferring Farangs. These things help me to cut down the mistakes. Mostly I have not been choosing girls in a big rush on the first meeting. This also reduces errors.

Best performing porn stars should be in places like Tulip and Snow White, etc. but struggle to find a pretty girl there.

It is best to try everything and multiple times. Cannot judge any place fairly by a single bad experience. Can only judge the particular girl.