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[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo; 1219657]Is there something morally wrong with mongering? With P4P? I don't think so! It is a job in a service industry more or less like any other. And furthermore it provides an overall beneficial effect for society. I am sure a lot of waitresses don't like working all day on their feet for tips. I am sure a lot of workers on an assembly line hate their boring repetitive jobs. Only a very few lucky individuals really like what they do. The rest of us just do it to put food on the table, a roof over our heads and take care of our families. It sure would be nice if everybody had a few million dollars in investment grade securities and did not have to work. It sure would be nice if everybody came from loving responsible families. It sure would be nice if life were not a struggle. Utopia!

Now back to the real world. All the girls in the business I have ever met are there on their own free will. I have heard of the slave trade, but to the best of my knowledge, the girls in Bangkok (Pattaya) Go Go's (Farang P4P) are not part of that. I would be really interested if someone on this forum has valid information to refute this. The girls have the right to refuse a customer if they don't like him. It has happened to me a couple of times. They can also choose to fail the interview prompting the customer to pass on them. They could do something else, for less pay. They choose this occupation for one reason or another. And I believe I am helping these girls out by paying them the fair market price for their service and treating them kindly. I appreciate what they do for me. What is wrong with that? Some girls have great attitudes and provide great service and other girls have shitty attitudes and try to short change the customer. Like any other business relationship, it is wrong for one party to try to cheat the other party.

I don't understand the moral rectitude. But, if a punter thinks it is morally wrong then he should definitely not do it. I think that societies that allow prostitution are much better off than societies that try to repress it. The oldest profession as the saying goes.[/QUOTE]I ain't saying it's wrong dude."Dream" is the one that doesn't like to monger when people are suffering. But, I'll bet you a million bucks these girls would rather be doing some other profession if they could with the right pay. Don't kid yourself if you think they love their jobs. This is pretty much their best option at the time and if they have an out, they're going to take it!

[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo; 1219657]Is there something morally wrong with mongering? With P4P? I don't think so! It is a job in a service industry more or less like any other. And furthermore it provides an overall beneficial effect for society. I am sure a lot of waitresses don't like working all day on their feet for tips. I am sure a lot of workers on an assembly line hate their boring repetitive jobs. Only a very few lucky individuals really like what they do. The rest of us just do it to put food on the table, a roof over our heads and take care of our families. It sure would be nice if everybody had a few million dollars in investment grade securities and did not have to work. It sure would be nice if everybody came from loving responsible families. It sure would be nice if life were not a struggle. Utopia!

Now back to the real world. All the girls in the business I have ever met are there on their own free will. I have heard of the slave trade, but to the best of my knowledge, the girls in Bangkok (Pattaya) Go Go's (Farang P4P) are not part of that. I would be really interested if someone on this forum has valid information to refute this. The girls have the right to refuse a customer if they don't like him. It has happened to me a couple of times. They can also choose to fail the interview prompting the customer to pass on them. They could do something else, for less pay. They choose this occupation for one reason or another. And I believe I am helping these girls out by paying them the fair market price for their service and treating them kindly. I appreciate what they do for me. What is wrong with that? Some girls have great attitudes and provide great service and other girls have shitty attitudes and try to short change the customer. Like any other business relationship, it is wrong for one party to try to cheat the other party.

I don't understand the moral rectitude. But, if a punter thinks it is morally wrong then he should definitely not do it. I think that societies that allow prostitution are much better off than societies that try to repress it. The oldest profession as the saying goes.[/QUOTE]This was a really good post. I agree with most of it.

On your question: Is there something morally wrong with P4P? It depends on what a persons morals are. It is like any other judgement, which is usually based on religion. I interact with a lot of Christians. The ones I know are outwardly deadset against P4P. They believe it promotes treating women as less than human, spreads diseases, and is generally bad for society. The US self claims to be a "Christian Nation" which is why wide spread legalization will never happen here.

Funny thing about several of the married Christian guys. They are having affairs. Of course, they don't want to talk about that.

After entering Soi 7/1 from Sukhumvit (Subway on the corner) , where are you relative to Eden? Just past Eden or before? On right side or the left? Thank You

[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo; 1219657]Is there something morally wrong with mongering? With P4P? I don't think so! It is a job in a service industry more or less like any other. And furthermore it provides an overall beneficial effect for society. I am sure a lot of waitresses don't like working all day on their feet for tips. I am sure a lot of workers on an assembly line hate their boring repetitive jobs. Only a very few lucky individuals really like what they do. The rest of us just do it to put food on the table, a roof over our heads and take care of our families. It sure would be nice if everybody had a few million dollars in investment grade securities and did not have to work. It sure would be nice if everybody came from loving responsible families. It sure would be nice if life were not a struggle. Utopia!

Now back to the real world. All the girls in the business I have ever met are there on their own free will. I have heard of the slave trade, but to the best of my knowledge, the girls in Bangkok (Pattaya) Go Go's (Farang P4P) are not part of that. I would be really interested if someone on this forum has valid information to refute this. The girls have the right to refuse a customer if they don't like him. It has happened to me a couple of times. They can also choose to fail the interview prompting the customer to pass on them. They could do something else, for less pay. They choose this occupation for one reason or another. And I believe I am helping these girls out by paying them the fair market price for their service and treating them kindly. I appreciate what they do for me. What is wrong with that? Some girls have great attitudes and provide great service and other girls have shitty attitudes and try to short change the customer. Like any other business relationship, it is wrong for one party to try to cheat the other party.

I don't understand the moral rectitude. But, if a punter thinks it is morally wrong then he should definitely not do it. I think that societies that allow prostitution are much better off than societies that try to repress it. The oldest profession as the saying goes.[/QUOTE]Natty.

Very well put.

Always amazes me when mongers express guilt or the feeling they are doing something wrong.

Doubt is a great example of negative religious training or the mind fuck of the dreaded Western Fem Nazi influence that creates guilt for basic human needs.

Males are born to spread seed. It's in our genes / jeans and I for one cherish this opportunity.

P4P is a simply exchange of services / cash that dates back to the beginning of mankind. Both participants benefit. With respect, humor and basic human consideration it's a win win for both parties.

After 40 years of P4P I have had a high percentage of positive experiences. I think that it has a lot to do with how one approaches the sessions.

I started mongering at age 14 and plan to continue as long as possible.

IMHO I am doing nothing wrong.

I have difficulty understanding the guilt referenced on these boards.

Walk of shame?

Shit- Walk of pride, my old ass is getting some prime tonight.

Guido88

[QUOTE=Guido88; 1219711]Natty.

Very well put.

Always amazes me when mongers express guilt or the feeling they are doing something wrong.

Doubt is a great example of negative religious training or the mind fuck of the dreaded Western Fem Nazi influence that creates guilt for basic human needs.

Males are born to spread seed. It's in our genes / jeans and I for one cherish this opportunity.

P4P is a simply exchange of services / cash that dates back to the beginning of mankind. Both participants benefit. With respect, humor and basic human consideration it's a win win for both parties.

After 40 years of P4P I have had a high percentage of positive experiences. I think that it has a lot to do with how one approaches the sessions.

I started mongering at age 14 and plan to continue as long as possible.

IMHO I am doing nothing wrong.

I have difficulty understanding the guilt referenced on these boards.

Walk of shame?

Shit- Walk of pride, my old ass is getting some prime tonight.

Guido88[/QUOTE]Good one.

I have never understood the "walk of shame". I always walk by with a big smile on my face. I am happy and proud of the fact that I will be getting some pussy!

[QUOTE=Papae Noel;1219707]After entering Soi 7/1 from Sukhumvit (Subway on the corner) , where are you relative to Eden? Just past Eden or before? On right side or the left? Thank You[/QUOTE]Hi BJ here.

We are just passed eden on the right hand side as you walk down from Nana BTS.

[QUOTE=Luvpuss; 1219721]Good one.

I have never understood the "walk of shame". I always walk by with a big smile on my face. I am happy and proud of the fact that I will be getting some pussy![/QUOTE]Are you sure the "pussy" is not getting you? ;)

Certainly one of the fantasies to be put on the checklist. A price for the experience would be great, and the source of the girls. Getting 3 girls is not hard, getting them to play together is the hard part.

[QUOTE=Dr BJ; 1219560]Hi BJ here.

Just started reading a book given to me by a friend called 'private dancer' haven't read much yet, but looks like it will be good.

Well the girl I have seen a few times organized another sex session for us last night and I reckon this was probably the best in my entire life.

The other two were friends of the regular but to my delight were much younger and better looking. I decided to start with a few shots of whisky all round, obviously not any of the good stuff I'm not daft. One of the new ones suggested we all have a bath together (luckily I have a large enough bath)

Having all three dry me off got me right in the mood, so I decided to be much more pro-active than last time and swiftly moved the party straight to the bedroom. One of the new ones wasn't keen to try any lesbo stuff, but I thought no problem, there's plenty more to go round so I started her off giving me a BJ while the other two got ripped into each other. Not sure what the bigger turn-on was, her sucking like it was the last knob she was going to get or the other two hammering away for dear life.

Each one sucked me off and I had to tell them to calm down or this wasn't going to last. Doing one of the new ones doggy we managed to incorporate everyone into the mix, snogging the other new one, while the regular got a right royal lick out (bloody unfair how women can orgasm multiple times and we can't)

Next move was to get the other new girl to lean against the window with me behind her, curtains open, not too sure if the screaming was genuine or not but it worked for me. I noticed some lights coming on in the apartments opposite and it made me feel 10 feet tall. I am sure if they were looking they would have seen her tit's being squished against the window, inflating and deflating.

I entertained the new lass, who didn't like lesbo and got the other two to scissor each other, eventually all four of us were writhing together on the bed with arms, legs and pussies everywhere you looked.

I had to have a time out then, I'm not 25 anymore although I try to behave like I am. I connected my laptop up to the 42 inch T. V and put on some seventies porn, the ones with the wah wah music and the terrible story lines. Next I lay down and got each of them to jump on top of me in turn, whilst licking whoever's pussie wasn't busy at the time.

Never been a big fan of arse licking TBH, always better to receive than to dish it out. But I can survive without it. By this time I was starting to get tired so I decided to lick out each of them, while getting a BJ, then finished off by shagging each of them in the straight forward missionary position. I only just managed to get onto the last one and 2 minutes later had an amazing load blow.

What a fantastic night and all three of them seemed contented as well, lucky for them as this was not my mission goal, I'm a firm believer in the 'charity starts at home' doctrine.

Afterwards they were strongly hinting at having a repeat session, definitely will do it again but not for a while, as I said previously, I'm not 25 anymore but sure wish I was.

Ciao, BJ[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Oldian;1219586]You get my vote for post of the year! A few more details as to the connection with all these young ladies and prices paid might be nice, but like I said, post of the year. That is why we live here![/QUOTE]The connection with the young ladies was, firends of the semi perm GF. No money paid by me, the perm fixture may have, did'nt ask TBH. I provided the room, porn, whisky, air con and cock. For the original threesome last week, Spanky's was the go-go bar where I found my choice for the BG. Cost B2500 and she left just after breakfast. I don't mind paying the extra B300. B500 for better looks and she was one of the better looking ones.

[QUOTE=YG365;1219687]I ain't saying it's wrong dude."Dream" is the one that doesn't like to monger when people are suffering. But, I'll bet you a million bucks these girls would rather be doing some other profession if they could with the right pay. Don't kid yourself if you think they love their jobs. This is pretty much their best option at the time and if they have an out, they're going to take it![/QUOTE]I totally agree with Natty.

I only said that when there are major problems around, and a lot of ordinary people, nor specifically WGs, having major problems to survive, I find it difficult to enjoy my mongering. And orefer waiting for better timnes to come back. That has nothing to do with "morality" of mongering, a discussion that should be taken to the relvant specific thread.

End of discussion?

[QUOTE=Dr BJ; 1219560]Hi BJ here.

Afterwards they were strongly hinting at having a repeat session, definitely will do it again but not for a while, as I said previously, I'm not 25 anymore but sure wish I was.

Ciao, BJ[/QUOTE]Dr. BJ. I think since many a dick long years I'm reading such an elaborate report in BKK section. Kudos. Script looked good for a Vivid video. Enjoyed it immensely.

Planning to visit your salon during my next visit to LOS and hope to find such girls there.)

AK

[QUOTE=Chimmy31;1219519]I'm sure a lot of these girls are suffering and don't want to sleep with a lot of guys but they have to because of the money.[/QUOTE]Most of the girls do support thier families, however this might cost 5-10, 000 baht tops. I knew a girl who could not wash and dry her own hair. 300 baht a pop almost everyday, not to mention her nails. These girls will waste just as much money as they make.

[QUOTE=YG365;1219687]I ain't saying it's wrong dude."Dream" is the one that doesn't like to monger when people are suffering. But, I'll bet you a million bucks these girls would rather be doing some other profession if they could with the right pay. Don't kid yourself if you think they love their jobs. This is pretty much their best option at the time and if they have an out, they're going to take it![/QUOTE]I don't want to make any blanket statements. There are some gems out there, there are some horrors, there are some girls that absolutely HATE what they are doing and don't belong in the trade, and there are others who appear to enjoy it. However, it is my experience that a very large number of girls, even given the option to join 70-80% of the rest of the society and get an office job or be helped out to do that by a farang, would not. One of my regulars, who has a 50, 000 baht a month sponsor, asked me how she could live if a farang only gave her 10, 000 a month. I told her 10, 000, plus your rent and food is free, he takes care of the bills, and you then stop in the bar and go to a cheap uni like Ramkamhaeng, get a basic degree that allows you to get a 12-15, 000 baht a month salary. When you add that all up, for a girl from her background, that is damn damn good. Yet I'd venture that 70-80% of them wouldn't take it. It is far easier to remain in the trade, make extremely large salaries by Thai standards per month, and sleep all day. I have had several women over the years who have gone for the former, only to drop out at some point because they would far rather take the easy way out. You don't see the office ladies earning 15, 000, who have no sponsor and work their tails off every day complaining about life and being bitter. They get on with it, smile, and make the best they can. I see girls here preying on western guilt day in and day out, and they are the masters of working it.

I agree with most of what you say. The only point I might discuss is that the US claims to be "christian nation". Those that claim that usually are from the religious right. Most of the US does not belong to that right wing group. They claim that the US was founded as a "christian nation". Well, not exactly. The US came about because of business, the Massachuetts Bay company being one if the first. The pilgrams came to escape religious persecution and were very intollerant of other groups or there specific theology. Thus the founding of Rhode Island as a state. Today they are more of a hate group. By that I mean they don't want immigration, hate gays, don't want jews or other groups around. (See Mormons) believe gambling is a sin, and heaven forbid drinking a beer. Now they will tell you they don't hate but just watch what they back and what they do, not what they say.

We had a joke about the Southern Baptist. There are only 2 times they will have a drink. When they are alone or with someone. Not to pick on one religious group over another.

I believe this will pass but you and I won't be around to see it. Europe eventually changed to allowing different forms of prostition. The US is not any where near the age of the Europeans cultures. Now will it be open, tolerated, and accepted as other parts of the world, I doubt it.

This is only my opinion. With it and $2. 00 I can get a cup of coffee somewhere. So lets get back to BKK and the many pleasures it offers