Berlin

[QUOTE=The AF]...all I could find is this:

[url]http://www.berlinintim.de/member/Club/Club-6742.html#[/url]

unfortunately, the link indeed leads to a "blank" site and I am also wondering why those girls offer only Massage-Services but according to their setcard no fucking, CIM or CIF, which I would think of if going nasty..!!

The AF[/QUOTE]TAF,

That site comes up here okay.

Try it again with a proxy if you still want to see it.

J

[QUOTE=Ortos]Could one of you resident Artemis experts please rate the level of "couch action" prevelant at Artemis? Is there "couch action" to speak of? Please describe the situation...for example: how common would public displays of dfk or bbbj be in the club? Just wondering...[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Angus Magee]I would have to say that there is generally not much couch action at Artemis. It does not seem to be a part of the "culture" there. [snip] There are girls there who are willing to take the time to hang out a bit on the couch and maybe do some kissing but you have to search them out. And it also depends how busy the club is and how much they want the business [snip] I am not that interested in DKF, BBBJ couch action so I do not search for it. Maybe other mongers have a different experience here.[/QUOTE]My experiences have been much different! I'm no Artemis expert, but I've been there quite a few times and every time, I saw live sex action in the upstairs kino and BBBJ in the downstairs kino. Maybe it depends on the client, but everytime i ask a girl to go in the kino she's trying to get my dick out within a minute. The downstairs kino is set up for that, they get you hot in the little sofas in front of the movie, then there are about 5 rooms right behind so you can take them back there to finish. But all of the "couch action" time is paid! So be careful! Nowadays in busy nights there is no "hanging out" on less she is in her recovery phase. when I was first in artemis in September I could talk to girls for 15min no problem, but this year (since january and the big slowdown) they are much more transaction oriented. They don't want to sit around and talk, nearly as much. They want action. So you can get couch action under conditions:

- You are a returning client and already met her, or she has seen you so she thinks talking will pay

- You get the action on the couche but the clock is running.

On a number of occassions i've seen guys cuddled up with girls alongside a bottle of chapagne (prosecco?) and finally i realized they are paying for that time along with the drink. If you just want to sit and talk, go to felix club, get a table buy champagne and the hot girls will come around (but felix is a discotheque so it's not the same thing)

As for the main room, i've never seen anything hot going on but at least half of the girls are up for anywhere in my opinion and one girl told me that sometimes when the rooms are all full she's seen people fucking on the stairs.

[QUOTE=Hektor T]My experiences have been much different! I'm no Artemis expert, but I've been there quite a few times and every time, I saw live sex action in the upstairs kino and BBBJ in the downstairs kino. Maybe it depends on the client, but everytime i ask a girl to go in the kino she's trying to get my dick out within a minute. The downstairs kino is set up for that, they get you hot in the little sofas in front of the movie, then there are about 5 rooms right behind so you can take them back there to finish. But all of the "couch action" time is paid! So be careful! Nowadays in busy nights there is no "hanging out" on less she is in her recovery phase. when I was first in artemis in September I could talk to girls for 15min no problem, but this year (since january and the big slowdown) they are much more transaction oriented. They don't want to sit around and talk, nearly as much. They want action. So you can get couch action under conditions:

- You are a returning client and already met her, or she has seen you so she thinks talking will pay

- You get the action on the couche but the clock is running.

On a number of occassions i've seen guys cuddled up with girls alongside a bottle of chapagne (prosecco?) and finally i realized they are paying for that time along with the drink. If you just want to sit and talk, go to felix club, get a table buy champagne and the hot girls will come around (but felix is a discotheque so it's not the same thing)

As for the main room, i've never seen anything hot going on but at least half of the girls are up for anywhere in my opinion and one girl told me that sometimes when the rooms are all full she's seen people fucking on the stairs.[/QUOTE]

I think we are talking about a different type of couch action here.

In the kino there is plenty of public sex to be seen. I have also seen on occasion public sex in the main bar- a FFM threesome that went on for the best part of an hour including lots of lesbian action.

The type of couch action I was referring to is when you start a session in the main bar, on the couch with DFK & BBBJ. It is really just a warm up/sales technique and once you get to the room the half hour paid session starts.

And as I mentioned, I have experienced this just once or twice. Mostly the girls in Artemis seem reluctant to offer a bit of a freebie in order to seal a session. And as I say, I don't try to hard for this. Both times it has happened to me it has just happened without my trying to make it happen.

[QUOTE=Angus Magee]I think we are talking about a different type of couch action here.

The type of couch action I was referring to is when you start a session in the main bar, on the couch with DFK & BBBJ. It is really just a warm up/sales technique and once you get to the room the half hour paid session starts.

And as I mentioned, I have experienced this just once or twice. Mostly the girls in Artemis seem reluctant to offer a bit of a freebie in order to seal a session. And as I say, I don't try to hard for this. Both times it has happened to me it has just happened without my trying to make it happen.[/QUOTE]I agree there are two different types of action. But just a word to the wise:

The etiquette may be different in Artemis than in a traditional bordello/club. In the traditional setup you start to pay once you're in the room. In Artemis, as soon as her mouth touches your dick the clock can start running, as I understand it. No matter if you are in the big room the kino or a private room. of course if she wants to not count time outside the room that could happen.

The first time I was there I thought couch action in the kino was marketing, but it was really closing the sale on a naive customer. The second time I got couch action in the public room was a pretty, tall blond polish girl with big oversized plastic tits and tatooed eyebrows that i had already got in the room and she spent the whole time screaming "fick me, fick me"!! so loud i thought the whole floor could hear it. So the next time I saw her she spent 15 minutes helping me decide to go with her again.

Sure you can get freebies, extras, or whatever and some girls will french kiss or do cim or ask for extraball without asking for money. But that is not the experience for most guys.

(click my name and look at my previous artemis posts for complete description of my experiences in paid couch action and free extras).

The competition: Alice from Bitchclub (née Hautnah) vs Anastasia from Desire61 (née Timeout)


*** The rules

I had both girls as callouts, for one or two hours. So far, I had Alice a few times and Anastasia one time – this does not indicate preference, just the fact that I only learnt about the rebirth of Timeout and their callout service last week while I have been a regular with Hautnah for a while. Caveat: I like to have my callouts longtime’ish – which I believe is important for the experience you might have with Alice more that it is with Anastasia.


*** The contestants

*** Alice, 18 yr old Romanian, from Bitchclub, [url]http://www.bitchclub-berlin.de.vu[/url]

* What’s true about her profile. I believe she really is 18. She behaves that way, appears to have a profile on a social networking site where she is listed as being 18, and she did hint at ‘being only 18’ when we talked.

* My take on her. She behaves like a 18 yr old and has the body of an 18 yr old. Long black (dyed) hair, great ass, small firm tits. A bit short, not a spinner, but just a bit chubby.


*** Anastasia, 20 yr old Russian, from Desire61, [url]http://www.desire61.de[/url]

* What’s true about her profile (and what’s not). I don’t believe she is 20 – she might be 25. She appears to have a kid that lives with her relatives at home in Russia and appears to have worked in this job for a while.

* My take on her. While someone wrote about her being shy, she behaves and is less innocent than Alice. While she is sweet, she knows and occasionally directs positions, something I don’t think Alice would do. Short blond hair, ok ass, small tits. And again: A bit short, not a spinner, but just a bit chubby.


*** The contest

*** Alice. When I had Alice come over for the first time, she had been with Bitchclub for a few days only. That meant that she was genuinely open – she told me that my apartment was seriously cool (it is :-) ), that she did not like her new job, that she thought I was nice (I am :-) ), that she was homesick and missed Romania.


* The good - real gfe. In short – she was not a pro. She liked to cuddle, she twitched when I caressed her and she liked it, turned away when she did not like what I did. Alice has a true GFE thing going for her, with the genuine smiles, but also with moods. Oh, and terms of physical – she is positively cute when she smiles, she has a great ass, small and firm tits – a great body if you like that.

* The bad - she can be a starfish. She is not moody – she just takes time to warm up, relax. Once she does, she tells about herself, smiles, cuddles. She responds to the caressing, tries to reciprocate – but is a bit inept at it. She certainly is not very experimental. And she can be a bit lazy – she starts giving rather good bjs but then signals she is tiring; she does not like being on top and when teased into it soon is tired; preferred position seems to be lazy ones – even then, she can morph into a starfish.


*** Anastasia. Anastasia is a pro. She has been living in Germany for around 3 months I believe, but her German is not great – nor is her English – in fact, her English is worse than Alice’s. I guess she would get all the work related idioms (money, bj, doggie, …) but its hard to have just a limited conversation that helps her to loosen up.

* The good - she is a pro. She is into sex or at least into providing good service. She likes or pretends to like changing positions and certainly likes to demonstrate that she knows better what is good for me than I do. I somewhat like it when she does that and ‘directs’ me around, that’s a strong point for her – it’s just that she reverts back and gets concerned about what I like. I think next time I will need a Russian cheat sheet telling her she should just experiment and surprise me.

* The bad - not really a gfe. She is less cute that Alice and more of a pro. For me, sex is about play as much as it is about, well, sex. Alice is more of a challenge, more about play. And Alice has a better body. And yes - I know I contradict myself, simultaneously being interested about her and then objectifying her and her body. It’s a male thing ;-).


*** Bottom line. I guess it is a tie. The tie break for me will be when I will get either Alice to be less high maintenance or less of a starfish. Or when I get Anastasia to be experiment and surprise me. The odds are for Ana – as I write this, she plans to stay in Germany for another 9 months, while Alice has gone back to Romania.

Hi dear friends,

I found sweety again.! She is again working in berlin and I will try to see her end of the month!

Her is a very good report on her in the forum (Thread #1135). She worked in la-passion as sweety and as yve. She is wonderfull.

I will report as soon as I know more.

Will

Just noticed this new "all you can eat" club. 99 Euro opening special.

[url]http://www.caligula-berlin.de/girls.html[/url]

This one is much more centrally located in Berlin Schöneberg, just steps away from Liberty on Martin-Luther-str.

These types of place are not really my scene but as it is so convenient for me I might just give it a try.

[QUOTE=Angus Magee]Just noticed this new "all you can eat" club. 99 Euro opening special.

[url]http://www.caligula-berlin.de/girls.html[/url]

This one is much more centrally located in Berlin Schöneberg, just steps away from Liberty on Martin-Luther-str.

These types of place are not really my scene but as it is so convenient for me I might just give it a try.[/QUOTE]
Looks more like a hostess bar/ strip club/ table dance place with all included drinks than an all you can eat partytreff. No where does it say on the website what's on the menu (i.e. the type of service on offer) which is what you would expect from a PT web site.

From their pics, the separate areas look to be no more than booths off of the bar with a padded bench and curtained opening, much like you might find in the private dance areas of US strip clubs. Also, none of the women are pictured on beds, which is another almost omnipresent feature of PT web sites.

I wouldn't go with very high expectations of "eating" very much. Still if it turns out that this is indeed a PT in the middle of Berlin (another reason to be suspicious- PT's are invariably situated in out of the way industrial complexes and not prime center city real estate)....

[QUOTE=Iseeu]Looks more like a hostess bar/ strip club/ table dance place with all included drinks than an all you can eat partytreff. No where does it say on the website what's on the menu (i.e. the type of service on offer) which is what you would expect from a PT web site.

From their pics, the separate areas look to be no more than booths off of the bar with a padded bench and curtained opening, much like you might find in the private dance areas of US strip clubs. Also, none of the women are pictured on beds, which is another almost omnipresent feature of PT web sites.

I wouldn't go with very high expectations of "eating" very much. Still if it turns out that this is indeed a PT in the middle of Berlin (another reason to be suspicious- PT's are invariably situated in out of the way industrial complexes and not prime center city real estate)....[/QUOTE]

Some info I pulled from a report on one of the German forums.

The entrance fee is now 160. The 99 euro fee was an opening special which ran out on 31/06. The fee does include all drinks and some snacks and the services of the girls. But....there are extra charges for certain extras (FO, anal) and the girls expect you to buy them lady drinks. Which are not included in the entry fee:-((

The atmosphere is, according to the report, nice enough but the service from the ladies is perfunctory and has a "processed" feel. The reviewer also mentioned that the of the 8 ladies present only two were what he considered acceptable. Both were ex-pussyclub girls.

So it seems that downtown does have a partytref-of sorts. Though I would venture a guess that this is actually just a club that is trying to take advantage of the partytref name and not really in the spirit of partytref.

At 160 it is extremely doubtful (like not at all) that I myself would pay a visit. If I ever do visit a PT I would want it to be one with a very good rep for service.

[QUOTE=Will Smith69]Hi dear friends,

I found sweety again.! She is again working in berlin and I will try to see her end of the month!

Her is a very good report on her in the forum (Thread #1135). She worked in la-passion as sweety and as yve. She is wonderfull.

I will report as soon as I know more.

Will[/QUOTE]

I will be very interested to read your report.

Do you have a link to a website? or other contact information?

[QUOTE=Angus Magee]I will be very interested to read your report.

Do you have a link to a website? or other contact information?[/QUOTE]Hi,

I found her information in the freiclub website, but I also found her profile on site abote berlin escorts. I will report as soon as I met her, and I will deeliver the information.

I am in berlin tomorrow, any suggestion on hot to spend a Friday morning? I have some time off. I woudl love to get some advice or tip, how to spend the time between 9 and 12.

Best would be sométhing near fiedrichstrasse where I stay. Maybe some good tip abote a famous kino.

Any suggestion?

Thanks,

Will

[QUOTE=Will Smith69]Hi,

I found her information in the freiclub website, but I also found her profile on site abote berlin escorts. I will report as soon as I met her, and I will deeliver the information.

I am in berlin tomorrow, any suggestion on hot to spend a Friday morning? I have some time off. I woudl love to get some advice or tip, how to spend the time between 9 and 12.

Best would be sométhing near fiedrichstrasse where I stay. Maybe some good tip abote a famous kino.

Any suggestion?

Thanks,

Will[/QUOTE]

I would suggest a visit to see Anastasia @ Desire Erotik.

[url]http://www.desire61.de/anastasia.html[/url]

From where you are it would be a short UBahn trip & 10 min. walk. I think they open at 10:00 a.m..

See Iseeu's report below or my report a few pages back. Anastasia is a treat.

Hi,

I am in Berlin and I would like to try some cinema expiriance. I have heard that this is interesting and fun. And I like to do something in a bit mor public enviroment.

Is there any suggetion. Please help! Thanks

Will

Hi,

Some help please? !

I'm off to berlin this week, staying in Berlin=Prenzlauer Berg and would like some fun.

Are there any recommended places (not too pricey). Oral and anal would be good too!

Many thanks in advance, any help gratefully appreciated!

Matt

[QUOTE=Will Smith69]Hi,

I am in Berlin and I would like to try some cinema expiriance. I have heard that this is interesting and fun. And I like to do something in a bit mor public enviroment.

Is there any suggetion. Please help! Thanks

Will[/QUOTE]

Where you are staying there are no Kinos near. You would have to go further afield. Check my Berlin guide in the RoD thread for a few suggestions.