Manila

[QUOTE=MrHawaii;2148255]Is it too late to call / text them and tell them of your sudden change of plans? I usually make my plans 4 to 6 months in advance, including hotel reservations. But, when it comes to telling my (your) prospects when you will be in Manila, best to say, "I'll try to be there on (date) . I am also going to Korea and not sure of the dates yet. " Or use Thailand, Japan, etc. You don't say what hotel you will be at, but very few girls live close enough to the hotels to lie in wait for you. And hotels generally do not let women go to rooms unescorted. Also, when you are with the first one, you can say you are leaving unexpectedly the next day, or Friday, etc. She will think you are leaving and won't come back to the hotel. Tell the front desk you do not want any calls, and not to release any information. Hope that helps.[/QUOTE]Thanks pal for the nice guidelines. Yeah, I think that will be the best alibi. Well, it's only. Short three night stay so hope to make the best out of it.

Will give La Cafe a visit, to supplement some sudden vacancy then.

Hope to enjoy Filipina pussy this short stay in Manila.

Cheers,

MD.

[QUOTE=MachoDik;2148320]Thanks pal for the nice guidelines. Yeah, I think that will be the best alibi. Well, it's only. Short three night stay so hope to make the best out of it.

Will give La Cafe a visit, to supplement some sudden vacancy then.

Hope to enjoy Filipina pussy this short stay in Manila.

Cheers,

MD.[/QUOTE]It isn't too hard to fake an intestine problem in Manila to get some time away from a girl (no questions asked). Pretty good chance you won't have to fake all of it.

[QUOTE=MrHawaii;2148255]Is it too late to call / text them and tell them of your sudden change of plans? I usually make my plans 4 to 6 months in advance, including hotel reservations. But, when it comes to telling my (your) prospects when you will be in Manila, best to say, "I'll try to be there on (date) . I am also going to Korea and not sure of the dates yet. " Or use Thailand, Japan, etc. You don't say what hotel you will be at, but very few girls live close enough to the hotels to lie in wait for you. And hotels generally do not let women go to rooms unescorted. Also, when you are with the first one, you can say you are leaving unexpectedly the next day, or Friday, etc. She will think you are leaving and won't come back to the hotel. Tell the front desk you do not want any calls, and not to release any information. Hope that helps.[/QUOTE]4-6 months before? It is ok for flight and hotel. But not for setting up a fuck date. Many things change in your life as well as in a girls life. Both of you will meet other people who will be more interesting. My plans take shape only after I land in Philippines. Unless if it is a GF from before.

I have had best results by trolling DIA moment I am in my hotel. Once the girls know you are in town they are more eager to be with you. If they have not done this before they may want to meet you at a mall or some other place. Usually they will bring a friend and you are expected to treat them for food. After that if the girl likes you she will ditch her friend and come with you. No finances will be discussed.

If the girl has done this before she will come to the hotel. In such cases I always discuss financial arrangements.

If all else fails hit the venues where you can pick up a girl.

[QUOTE=SaltyPete;2148405]It isn't too hard to fake an intestine problem in Manila to get some time away from a girl (no questions asked). Pretty good chance you won't have to fake all of it.[/QUOTE]There was a poster here a while ago who used to tell them that he was here on business. If the morning girl was good, afternoon girl got text that business meeting went longer. If not then he kept the meeting. Same for afternoon and evening girls. He re-books any girls who he could not see because his "business" meeting went too long.

Personally I think that that helps the girls justifying being late and not showing. I just book one a day in advance and then look for a pickup or a short notice date if I need to.

[QUOTE=KabulGuy;2148579]

Personally I think that that helps the girls justifying being late and not showing. I just book one a day in advance and then look for a pickup or a short notice date if I need to.[/QUOTE]I've tried all kinds of scheduling systems, from preplanned blocks of time to "adhoc, let's see how it goes", but one thing remains constant. The unreliability of the average pinay.

These days I just use a ranking system, any girl in tier 1 gets to be as late as they like as long as they show, tiers 2 and 3 risk getting bumped if they don't show up on time.

Thanks for all of your feedback.

I have eliminate again 2 girls from DIA contact as I can see they are too pushy to asked some money to help them with whatever fake reason such as paying rent, streesfful of her son's sickness etc.

Now I still keep one girl, a sales lady that chat with me everyday and still not asking some money or even talk about it. But the downside is she seems to hoping a true love, she even closed her account for me. Basically, this one should be good at GFE, but the problem is she means real, I think this already closing my red line in mongering. I prefer service for payment than service for relationship, may be taking advantage and have a GFE for my short stay with a natural pinay will be an experience but after that? I think that is what I have to reconsider seriously.

I mongers but doesn't. Want to hurt someone feeling. May be I am wrong, thinking too much?

Cheers,

MD.

[QUOTE=MachoDik;2148623]
I mongers but doesn't. Want to hurt someone feeling. May be I am wrong, thinking too much?

Cheers,

MD.[/QUOTE]MD, can I suggest you compare my two posts on trying to plan ahead on the chat sites vs just turning up and reeling in the girls.

I'm In Davao now battling missed appointments, no shows and undisclosed ladyboys after starting to get numbers 2 months ago.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2147823]So, after being the flag waver for online P2 P I hit a snag when I arrived in Davao. Looking back I think I made two fundamental errors. . . .[/QUOTE]Contrast that to my introduction to the sites when I just arrived in Cebu and started having fun:

[QUOTE=Goferring;2114979]This is intended as a review of a virgin's introduction to PinaLove rather than a review of possible activities in Cebu. . .[/QUOTE]Don't get me wrong, I'm still having fun here but it was way less work and simpler simply arriving in Cebu and starting then.

If it helps, I also have a post on what a girl told me they look for in guys profile. Have a search and see if it is of value to you.

Have fun.

[QUOTE=MachoDik;2148623]Thanks for all of your feedback.

I have eliminate again 2 girls from DIA contact as I can see they are too pushy to asked some money to help them with whatever fake reason such as paying rent, streesfful of her son's sickness etc.

Now I still keep one girl, a sales lady that chat with me everyday and still not asking some money or even talk about it. But the downside is she seems to hoping a true love, she even closed her account for me. Basically, this one should be good at GFE, but the problem is she means real, I think this already closing my red line in mongering. I prefer service for payment than service for relationship, may be taking advantage and have a GFE for my short stay with a natural pinay will be an experience but after that? I think that is what I have to reconsider seriously.

I mongers but doesn't. Want to hurt someone feeling. May be I am wrong, thinking too much?

Cheers,

MD.[/QUOTE]I would suggest you to read at least 2 last pages of neighboring thread "Chat Rooms & Pen Pals" to get some more information regarding pinays, before to make ungrounded conclusion that she is a good girl, just because she claims, she wants long term relationship.

As was told few times before, Filipinas could be divided into two groups. First are straightforward and ask money for sex right away. Others are more sly and they are willing to wait for weeks, months or even year (s) to get your money. No matter whether she is from the first group, or from the second one, you should always keep in your mind, that 99% of pinays are WG, who are primarily interested in your wealth.

Before you physically met her and got to know her closer, you should admit, that you know absolutely nothing about her. You just know, what she tells you about herself and what she wants you to know, but the reality might be much more harsh then you can expect. She might have pinoy husband, or BF. She might have one, two, or several sugar daddy sponsors, who provide her and who come to Philippines just twice or thrice per year to fuck her. She might meet other mongers just with fucking purpose, while she still claims you, she is a good girl and she wants you to marry her. You never know, and you shouldn't conclude anything just based on your virtual communication.

WTF should you feel any remorse about fucking her, when she sees in you just as a source of her income in the first place? Go and fuck her and never regret. But remember two golden rules you should obey if you want to be fine:

1. Never ever give her any money. Not a single peso for whatever reason. She will enjoy sleeping in air conditioned room, enjoy eating good food at a restaurants, enjoy travelling, if you decide to take her somewhere. That is enough. In exchange she will give you her pussy. That is a fair deal, but no additional money or presents for her should be involved in that deal.

2. Don't fall in love with her. Pinays are used to say a lot of sweet words, which may sound convincing. But in fact they don't mean what they say. Her only one aim is to get your guard down, so that to get your money. She might wait for months, or even years to win a jack pot. She might be truly faithful which could mislead you, but even if that is so, remember that she wants not you, but your wallet. Perhaps, she wants a sponsor, who will provide her on a constant basis. Perhaps she dreams about living in a foreign country, which enables her to provide her big family, including cousins, brothers and sisters in law at your expenses.

That said, pinays are not monsters. They can give you very quality GFE, if you follow above mention rules. You can have a great time with her, but don't mix up GFE with real relationship. It is not, because if it is driven by financial interest, sooner or later it will lead to something bad. It is just a game for you and for her. It could be called deal, but not a relationship. Go, fuck her and never feel remorse.

Looking for a hotel for my stay in Manila in a couple of weeks. Reading through the reviews of one place and guess what one unfavorable review says:

Got picked up at the airport via shuttle and was charged $70.00 with the driver asking for a tip for his family. Very rude front desk staff who confused me for a local. [B]The front desk security found me at the mall and asked me for a donation for his son's birthday[/B], though no party being held. No room cleaning service for 4 days so I ended up buying new bath towels for myself. When I called house keeping I was told that my room was not a guest room*.

What a fucking city.

Land at 9 pm on a Friday, at my hotel by 10, head straight to Cafe Havana. This place is just odd -- a legit bar / restaurant with band and outdoor seating for food. Get a beer and the obvious hookers stare at me but don't do anything then play shy when I talk to them. Dumb game. So I go outside and order food. This smoking hot curvy babe in a tight white dress walks by a couple times and we make eye contact. It was all I could do to get her to sit down -- "I'm with my friends. " "Are they guys?" "No. " Then took forever to get around to her admitting she's working, all the while she's shifting around and wringing her hands. Kicked her out the minute she started at 7000 and laughed when I said 3000 tops.

Blahblahblah more of the same shit.

Finally found a girl comfortable in her own skin and with what she's doing -- the rest are fucking wackjobs. Smoking hot spinner with a vanishing waist, curvylicious huge bubble butt and nice see cups. What a body!! Tight dress with vents all the way down both sides. No panties! She started at 5000. I said 3. Ended up at 4. Upper end of the RTTF 2500-4000 range but it was late, I was horny, and she was fucking all that. Walked to 7-11 for beers and hung out in my room naked flirting, watching her dance, a bit of oral, beer, flirting, etc. Nice to have an experience and not just enter / strip / fuck / leave. Best BBBJ I've ever had -- super deep throat, choked on it, spit up after all over my cock, dove right back on it for more. Hungry little *****.

Flipped her over to finally put it in and she freaked. Pinay supposed to love bareback but she would. Not. Have. It. At all. No convincing otherwise. So put the cover on and banged her doggy, regular and reverse cowgirl, mish with legs down the bed, then the finishing move was her knees by her head and parallel to her body (flexible! Me just jjack-hammering her with my whole body almost all the way out of her then pounding her (think randy savage off the top rope belly splash) again and again. Full body on body slapping. Cock ramming the back of her pussy. Came deep in her, unfortunately in a rubber.

Girl can take a beating.

Then more beer and good night.

4000 php.

Megan. I think she goes on social by MeganSweetness.

Kicked her out, tried to sleep. Phone rang. Hotel wouldn't let her out unless I said I was ok. Said I was and not to call back.

Fucking city.

Or not.

Woke up and wanted to see some sites, so did the fort and intramuros. Ended up at LA Cafe around 1-2 pm looking for poon.

Man these girls are a hot fucking mess.

They smile at me and I wish they didn't.

Look my way and I avert my eyes ASAP.

They're all a bit "off:

- Skinny girl with big belly.

- Nice big booby girl with way too much everything else.

- Decent body girl with teeth sticking straight out towards me.

- Anemic girl who makes a toothpick look overweight.

And the worst was while trying to find a diamond in the rough, a group of japs sit behind me and every girl in the place surrounds the table -- must have been 3 deep -- pushing me out of the way.

Well if that's how management likes it then they're not getting any more of my beer / food money.

Hightailed it to Zubuchon for some of the best roast pork I've ever had.

Had lined up for the night:

- Girl 1: Talking for a week, going to go out and pick up another girl and have an epic evening and I was going to definitely make it worth her financial while. Text at 7 pm: My friends dragged me to Angeles. Fucking ****.

- Girl 2: Talking for 5 days, planned to meet at a Makati bar. She ended up going to Q City or some bullshit. Fucking ****.

- Girl 3: Lived in Makati, talking to for 3 ish days. Definitely seemed excited to meet (as did all of them as we talked about shopping, dinner / drinks and fun). Heard nothing.

Best laid plans.

So didn't feel like Havana again. LA Cafe sucked. I didn't really want to go to Burgos and get a bar girl (way too fucking expensive even though I like bar girls). Went to a couple clubs and oogled the hotties. Wanted stupid amounts of money. Played one for long enough just talking that she rubbed me to cumming in my boxers. Not even a drink bought. That was in Plan be in one of the side booths. Stupid girl was straight off the bus 2 days prior from some province. Thanks, honey.

Bathroom, ditch boxers, good to go.

Wander down the way and there's the Ringside Bar. Definitely NOT OK (tm liberal american) things happen there. Dwarf boxing, tag team dwarf oil wrestling, girl boxing. But what the hell. Had a couple drinks and sat with a REALLY COOL CHICK and we bet 20 php on matches, groped around a bit, shot the shit and loved her because a) her shit was all hanging out everywhere and b) she didn't beg for a drink not even once. Her friend sat on the other side of me and constantly whined for drinks and I told her to shut the fuck up and leave me alone with her bitching. I think REALLY COOL CHICK got the message.

[QUOTE=UsaInEurope;2148860]Man these girls are a hot fucking mess.[/QUOTE]LOL. Man I like your style.

[QUOTE=UsaInEurope;2148860]Had lined up for the night:

- Girl 1: Talking for a week, going to go out and pick up another girl and have an epic evening and I was going to definitely make it worth her financial while. Text at 7 pm: My friends dragged me to Angeles. Fucking ****.

- Girl 2: Talking for 5 days, planned to meet at a Makati bar. She ended up going to Q City or some bullshit. Fucking ****.

- Girl 3: Lived in Makati, talking to for 3 ish days. Definitely seemed excited to meet (as did all of them as we talked about shopping, dinner / drinks and fun). Heard nothing.

Best laid plans.[/QUOTE]We warned you that you couldn't depend on those internet broads! All that time hunting online up in smoke.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2148851]Looking for a hotel for my stay in Manila in a couple of weeks. Reading through the reviews of one place and guess what one unfavorable review says:

Got picked up at the airport via shuttle and was charged $70.00 with the driver asking for a tip for his family. Very rude front desk staff who confused me for a local. [B]The front desk security found me at the mall and asked me for a donation for his son's birthday[/B], though no party being held. No room cleaning service for 4 days so I ended up buying new bath towels for myself. When I called house keeping I was told that my room was not a guest room*.[/QUOTE]I think there is something amiss here. Despite numerous hotel stays throughout Metro Manila for me, and many, many reports from others here in ISG, I have never heard any reports of hotel experiences like this--except for the doorman meeting at the mall. Obviously if they guy subscribed to ISG and read the Manila thread, he'd have seen through this particular scam.

[QUOTE=UsaInEurope;2148860]

Best laid plans.[/QUOTE]Really? You're in Manila, having presumably read this thread properly to understand how reliably unreliable pinays are and you only organized three girls?

For a first meeting, over two days in Manila you need 10 - 15 ready to go minimum, and none of those will make it at the right time. And at best 5 will show at all. If you've met them once already they'll generally show up when they say they will (give or take 2 hours).

[QUOTE=Tagalog2016;2148728]I would suggest you to read at least 2 last pages of neighboring thread "Chat Rooms & Pen Pals" to get some more information regarding pinays, before to make ungrounded conclusion that she is a good girl, just because she claims, she wants long term relationship.

As was told few times before, Filipinas could be divided into two groups. First are straightforward and ask money for sex right away. Others are more sly and they are willing to wait for weeks, months .[/QUOTE]Thanks for advise pal!

Yeah, I understand Filipina girls have so many types, in fact I would rather wish to have a real hot girl or even students to tell me straight they need money for service render that for me the best group ever.

Back to this sales lady, let's see what she up to. If I scented this is for a long time investment she put on me in these short stays then after the deeds, will deleted all chatting plateform with her. Don't want to established relationships.

Your are right "GFE" is no "relationship". They always telling better pay than pay later.

By the way, along with my charting with the "sales lady" , I once ask her, Honey, you wish me cum inside you or outside? SL: honey, you cum outside, I am afraid. ME: afraid of what? SL: pregnant, honey!

Anyway, even I saw her working at the mall and even provened she was there, I don't think would like to fuck a girl just met on the sites and laid down for me after first meeting without using cover. I heard a lot of call center girls are infected with HIV.

Cheers,

MD.