Santo Domingo

Maybe I am looking in the wrong place for culinary food? Do you have any recommendations? I had mofongo on the beach and did thought they served it too dry, the outdoor ribs near hotel Europa is pretty good (though I am annoyed that I ordered two times same items, essentially same weight, and the guy charged me 600 pesos when the girl the other day only asked for 300. Like with people repeating "chino chino chino" this has been an ongoing issue.) Best seafood hands down other than maimon is Puerto Plata Punto Mariscospop.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2562818]I personally do not think that Sosua is a tourist trap. An American on a mongering trip for the first time in his life should have a good time here. Someone on a purely mongering trip with p4p experience in other destinations such as Colombia, Brazil or Thailand will be disappointed. I can see myself visiting Sosua again but mongering will be secondary to the beach and culinary attractions.[/QUOTE]I don't want to dump on the town but if you didn't go to Sosua to monger you'd be disapointed. I mean it's a small beach town but it's more expensive for everything than in the Capital city. And the cab drivers and chicas are rip off artists. I wouldn't go to sosua unless I was an experienced monger with a decent command of spanish.

Hope this Helps.

Trip.

I'm posting this here because most mongers and expats do the DR / Colombia circut. When asked about the DR vs. Colombia any DR expat will tell you Colombia wins hands down. Then when asked why are they in the DR they don't have a good answer.

Granted I haven't been to Meddy or Carty so take this with a grain of salt. Colombia blows the DR out of the water in all ways except for general ease of living and women. What I mean is you can
speak almost no Spanish like I did when I came to the DR and quickly figure it out. I was able to get what I needed as easily in the Dr as I was in English Speaking Kenya. Shit is different in Cali Colombia. You get the run around when finding out basic information and there doesn't seem to be any monger hangouts where you can meet fellow mongers and get schooled. This is similar to Africa where people don't really help Black Mongers.

Secondly the women, Here in Cali there seems to be more plastic here than in the DR and more indigenous women who generally lack curves but the surgery is more realistic here. In the Dr when they use surgery they ten to go overboard and it can look crazy especially when you see them at the mall with their children. But the women are far far far more user friendly in the DR than in Colombia. In the DR I never stepped foot in a Casa, There was no need. Once I found my footing I was picking up semis and "non pros" with ease. I fucked a fair amount of shop girls in Agora and Megacentro malls.

El Conde was like shooting fish in a barrel and the Malecon was an excellent hunting ground. I will say that Colombian Casa girls in smaller casas tend to be as or even more accomodating than a food court worker in Megacentro you can generally get multi nut sessions and CIP (if that's what you want) in an "independent" casa as you can in the DR. I think that Colombian hoes are more "regulated" I haven't seen "the look" in Chipichape Mall from a shopgirl but if a woman is willing to sell pussy I think that they're encouraged to rent out a space and take clients there as opposed to the more freewhelling DR where chicks make on the spot decisions to have sex for money. There isn't a Parque Independencia or even a Parque LLeras in Cali.

Then there's the middleman issue. In Cali it's almost impossible to get takeout (take in?) You either go to the Casa or pay waaaaay more to a cab driver wannabe pimp who will wait as you fuck. I never experienced that in the DR. If a girl "delivered" another girl I usually fucked the delivery girl too just to prove a point. I'm been here more than a month and I haven't had one girl offer up a friend.

My overall point is that by a month's time I was swimming in women in the DR here it's still somewhat touch and go. I'm not motivated to visit every casa to find those diamonds in the rough.

But I will say there's way more non mongering things to do in Cali than in Santo Domingo

The Expats have it right you should live in the DR and vacation in Colombia.

Hope this Helps.

Trip.

[QUOTE=TripleDarknes;2562862]When asked about the DR vs. Colombia any DR expat will tell you Colombia wins hands down. Then when asked why are they in the DR they don't have a good answer.[/QUOTE]You quickly answered your own question.

[QUOTE=TripleDarknes;2562862]What I mean is you can speak almost no Spanish like I did when I came to the DR and quickly figure it out. I was able to get what I needed as easily in the Dr as I was in English Speaking Kenya. Shit is different in Cali Colombia. You get the run around when finding out basic information and there doesn't seem to be any monger hangouts where you can meet fellow mongers and get schooled.[/QUOTE]DR is an island and is used to getting vacationing foreigners. In many areas they are used to accommodating and taking advantage of the foreigner presence. There are places that expats hang out together so they still get the back-home connection that one needs as an ex-pat.

In Colombia you are just another person. Nobody gives a fuck and it is as if you are invisible. Cartagena is an exception to this. In a small beach area there they have the touts (just like Sosua and Boca Chica) that want to get money from foreigners. So there you may hear "Hey Amigo," but in any other part of Colombia nobody will pay you any damn attention or do anything to especially accommodate you. You are on your own.

It makes me think back to a post from the General thread a few months ago:

[QUOTE=Sailor02;2523093]I called a hotel manager in Boca Chica yesterday about the new required test for departure to the U. S. He seemed confused and didn't know what I was talking about.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2523108]That makes 2 of us confused. Why would a hotel manager in DR be concerned with requirements to enter the USA? I do not know of any hotel managers in the USA concerned about requirements to enter DR.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Sailor02;2523150]Maybe to help their guests Duh![/QUOTE]Thinking globally and being independent, I was really taken aback that the poster would expect a hotel to have something to do with their personal travel requirements as if they were a travel agency. In Boca Chica the hotels get tons of foreign tourists, so maybe they could be up for something like this. In Colombia you are bound to get the same deer in the headlights reaction that I had if you were to expect them to accommodate you in such a way. There is not going to be any nursery school hand holding.

[QUOTE=TripleDarknes;2562862]But the women are far far far more user friendly in the DR than in Colombia. In the DR I never stepped foot in a Casa, There was no need. Once I found my footing I was picking up semis and "non pros" with ease. I fucked a fair amount of shop girls in Agora and Megacentro malls. I think that Colombian hoes are more "regulated" I haven't seen "the look" in Chipichape Mall from a shopgirl.
In Cali it's almost impossible to get takeout (take in?) You either go to the Casa or pay waaaaay more to a cab driver wannabe pimp who will wait as you fuck. I never experienced that in the DR. If a girl "delivered" another girl I usually fucked the delivery girl too just to prove a point. I'm been here more than a month and I haven't had one girl offer up a friend.[/QUOTE]Neither are you going to get any "looks" from shop girls in Colombia. If you want to talk to them, then talk to them and see what comes out of it. If a Colombian chick likes you, then she likes you for you and is not trying to get anything monetary out of it. They are for the most part independent and have jobs (no matter how meager-paying the job may be) and are not looking to make extra on the side in the form of being a hooker, but not wanting to call it being a hooker as I have found to be the case in DR. I guess some mongers prefer to use the soft term "semi-pro." (Disclaimer: Medellin is a whole nother animal and is in a different category than the rest of Colombia.).

I have known Dominican chicks for over 10 years that have not had a job since I first met them. And they don't seem to be looking for one either. How are they surviving? You are not going to find this in Colombia. Everybody fucking works and they are not going to be asking you for money. If a Colombian chick asks you for money then she is either a hooker or it is a scam. (A chick that I mess with who is a lawyer in Barranquilla recently told me of how a lot of chicks at the salon she goes to talk about meeting foreigners on Tinder to get them to send money - SCAM!) It is just not how normal people operate there in opposition to how it could be normal to operate that way in DR, where many chicks that are not even hookers may expect their "boyfriend" to give them money.

This is why you are not going to be getting any referrals. The straight up hookers hang with other hookers. In the case of chicks that are not trying to be outright hookers or in this "semi-pro" genre, they are shameful and are not going to want anyone else to know they are hookers, so they are not going to be referring other chicks to you.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2562911]You quickly answered your own question.

DR is an island and is used to getting vacationing foreigners. In many areas they are used to accommodating and taking advantage of the foreigner presence. There are places that expats hang out together so they still get the back-home connection that one needs as an ex-pat.

In Colombia you are just another person. Nobody gives a fuck and it is as if you are invisible. Cartagena is an exception to this. In a small beach area there they have the touts (just like Sosua and Boca Chica) that want to get money from foreigners. So there you may hear "Hey Amigo," but in any other part of Colombia nobody will pay you any damn attention or do anything to especially accommodate you. You are on your own.

It makes me think back to a post from the General thread a few months ago:



Thinking globally and being independent, I was really taken aback that the poster would expect a hotel to have something to do with their personal travel requirements as if they were a travel agency. In Boca Chica the hotels get tons of foreign tourists, so maybe they could be up for something like this. In Colombia you are bound to get the same deer in the headlights reaction that I had if you were to expect them to accommodate you in such a way. There is not going to be any nursery school hand holding.

Neither are you going to get any "looks" from shop girls in Colombia. If you want to talk to them, then talk to them and see what comes out of it. If a Colombian chick likes you, then she likes you for you and is not trying to get anything monetary out of it. They are for the most part independent and have jobs (no matter how meager-paying the job may be) and are not looking to make extra on the side in the form of being a hooker, but not wanting to call it being a hooker as I have found to be the case in DR. I guess some mongers prefer to use the soft term "semi-pro." (Disclaimer: Medellin is a whole nother animal and is in a different category than the rest of Colombia.).

I have known Dominican chicks for over 10 years that have not had a job since I first met them. And they don't seem to be looking for one either. How are they surviving? You are not going to find this in Colombia. Everybody fucking works and they are not going to be asking you for money. If a Colombian chick asks you for money then she is either a hooker or it is a scam. (A chick that I mess with who is a lawyer in Barranquilla recently told me of how a lot of chicks at the salon she goes to talk about meeting foreigners on Tinder to get them to send money - SCAM!) It is just not how normal people operate there in opposition to how it could be normal to operate that way in DR, where many chicks that are not even hookers may expect their "boyfriend" to give them money.

This is why you are not going to be getting any referrals. The straight up hookers hang with other hookers. In the case of chicks that are not trying to be outright hookers or in this "semi-pro" genre, they are shameful and are not going to want anyone else to know they are hookers, so they are not going to be referring other chicks to you.[/QUOTE]As usual you're right but when I got Santo Domingo and the subject of Colombia came up and everyone described it as El Dorado yet they lived in Zona Colonial. The best answer I got was Colombian girls tended to be flaky.

General economics and the whine fests on several boards about how "entitled" sosua chicks are becoming made me think if Carty and Meddy is considered "better" than the Dr then more off the beaten path towns but even be better. I learned that there's no such thing as a pioneering monger no matter where you go somebody's been there first and if it's not popular there's a reason for it.

Agora Mall shop girls are my "type: because of the way I like to fuck I find some girls that please me and I'm good there's always room for one more and chicks can sour on you or find someone willing to be exclusive but If I like you I'll repeat so I like relative low mileage hookers who have an incentive to give me good service at a fair price. A chick who depends on me or mongers in general to earn her daily bread is too much and the hardcore casa girls servicing 10 clients a day is too little the sweet spot is the girl who's looking to get a light bill paid or her baby some new shoes.

As far as the dude asking the Hotel Management if he knows the migration policies of the US sounds crazy on the surface but It wouldn't be out of bounds if you were asking the concerige desk of the Crowne Plaza. Of course he wasn't staying at the crown but the whole point of third world travel is to get cut rate prices for everything, so a shot in the dark is ok and asking another monger you meet at the hotel bar is just as good.

If anyone is thinking like me and thinking sheesh I'd rather not go to a place with gangs devoted to giving you scoplamine and robbing for everything you have but I do want to pay the cheapest price I can for a dime can learn from my experience sometimes there's a reason why mongers congregate in certain areas. I keep hearing tha Bucaramanga is a pleasant town but everyone is saying that it's rather boring. Now I'm going to heed their advice.

Hope this Helps.

Trip.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2562818]I personally do not think that Sosua is a tourist trap. An American on a mongering trip for the first time in his life should have a good time here. Someone on a purely mongering trip with p4p experience in other destinations such as Colombia, Brazil or Thailand will be disappointed. I can see myself visiting Sosua again but mongering will be secondary to the beach and culinary attractions.[/QUOTE]My thoughts exactly! I'm a little dumbfounded by that blanket negativity. I mean you can bi*tch all you want about the leche-papi culture (I know I have, LOL), but the beach is very nice, the upscale lodging is affordable, and I thought the food was pretty good too. Tourist trap? Hardly.

Emergency in the country has been extended for another 45 days to July 15th, 2021.

I can afford to go anywhere in the world I want. I like brown women and good sex. Sosua supplies all I can handle. I always have a very good time there. Like you said fellowship with like minded guys, decent food.

A beach and oh yes scores of women throwing them selves at you all day. Back in the day you could see 40 or 50 8's,9's, and 10's at one location Classicos, Every type you could want, Now you are lucky if you see 10 that attractive on a given night. Real over kill cause I only bang one at a time most nights. If you can not have a good time in Sosua you need to lok in the mirror. There are scaming bad girls but it is not difficult to see through them. I pay 2500 to 3000 for short term. For me this is very afordable. If I lived in the DR I do not think I would need much P4 P action. Dominican women are very easy to approach and secure. Sosua is like a box of cracker jacks you never know what prize is in the box. To those who do not like Sosua do not go, you will not be missed but if you have not been try it several thousand guys keep coming back every year.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2562941]My thoughts exactly! I'm a little dumbfounded by that blanket negativity. I mean you can bi*tch all you want about the leche-papi culture (I know I have, LOL), but the beach is very nice, the upscale lodging is affordable, and I thought the food was pretty good too. Tourist trap? Hardly.[/QUOTE]

Got to love how lovers of The Sue like it so much they need to post about it in the Santo Domingo forum. It has me laughing my ass off! And no one should be surprised about the negativity displayed up in here. That is as they say par for the course over the years I have been posting up in here.

So here is my 2 pesos worth: I've been to The Sue. I had a great time. Years ago. And I have never been back. Why? Because there are too many other great beaches and places to monger all over Republica Dominicana. As far as I am concerned the hottest chicas are right here in Santo Domingo / Santo Domingo este.

My understanding is many girls goto to Sosua from other places on the island to slang pussy. Right down the road from me is Boca Chica. Sosua light as far as I am concerned. So for me the question is why spend the extra fuel to head up north? More importantly why spend the time (which is way more valuable to me)? OK! So the advice is if you do not like it don't go. OK! And I have not been missed. OK! But I liked it and I still have not returned. OK! See reason given above. OK! How does that fit into your reasoning? OK?

I am not hear to debate. I am here to share information. So, I have not had a girl that I have fucked in the Dominican Republic more than three times over the years here not ask me for money. Even when they had husbands, boyfriends, businesses, or jobs. How do you define pay to play if the girl asks for money afterwards? If you get right down to we are all mongers and girls are all prostitutes according to the definition by some. Pay for a lifetime and it is called marriage. Pay for an hour and it is called Prostitution. What is the real difference gentlemen?

5500 DOP to fuck all day. Prostitution? Pay for play? Semi-pro? Girl friend? Good time girl? Suger Baby? UTR? Definitions don't matter to my dick. And pesos only matter to my bank account.

My suggestion if you do not like Sosua try other places on the island. Why do I have to keep reminding you gentlemen that Prostitution is legal in the Dominican Republic. That includes the entire island. LOL!

What you know about rolling down in the deep!

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2562911] (Disclaimer: Medellin is a whole nother animal and is in a different category than the rest of Colombia.).[/QUOTE]What do you mean by this? I plan on running through Medellin at the end of the year.

First, I have read the Forum but came up empty on chica friendly hotels. I am planning a trip to Santo Domingo in June. I would appreciate any help with hotels or best location in the city to stay for easy mongering. Thank you.

Maybe it was because I was one of only three Asian mongers in Sosua (befriended all of them). I just found the Asian cat-calling and Ching Chong so repetitive. It's as though they never seen an Asian before despite the number of Asian owned shops. Even Rosa is half Chinese (attached but much much uglier and fatter in person, and still asked 3500). If you call me chino that's fine, but using Ching Chong as part of your sales pitch? Fuck off.

Or in playero drinking some coffee and over hearing two girls calling Americans ("where are you from honey? Like Chicago, chi-ca-go") They acted immensely condescending.

And the number of mass spam "hola" on my WhatsApp. None of them are attempts at a conversation (I tried). I know you are there and if I liked you I would respond, but don't mass spam me hola 5 days in a row.

The stars did not align: maybe it was the curfew, maybe because it's off season, maybe being trapped in a room for a year made me off my game. Maybe the person who kept writing there are 100's of girls in Sosua (which there are not) made me have too high expectations.

Turgid put it best: " An American on a mongering trip for the first time in his life should have a good time here. Someone on a purely mongering trip with p4 p experience in other destinations such as Colombia, Brazil or Thailand will be disappointed. "

Heading out to Panama City and Rio De Janeiro next. Here is some peace offering of Sosua girl photos:

This debate has been going on ad nauseum. My personal experience with respect to p4p only is that Colombia is superior in every respect, namely, looks of women, cost of women, quantity of women and performance of women. I have been to both countries and have gone to Colombia perhaps seven times as much as I have to the DR. That is my personal experience. Perhaps there are gents who have been to both countries who have mongered more times in the DR than they have in Colombia; I would suppose that their experiences differed from mine. Nevertheless, I would never discourage anyone from visiting the DR, I would advise worthy chaps to visit both countries if their budget allows and decide for themselves. In terms of Sosua vs Medellin, Sosua does have the advantage of having a nice beach to chill out and swim after depositing the leche. The DR does have the advantage of being safer than Colombia from my experience. But from a purely mongering point of view Colombia can't be beat.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2563163]This debate has been going on ad nauseum. My personal experience with respect to p4p only is that Colombia is superior in every respect, namely, looks of women, cost of women, quantity of women and performance of women. I have been to both countries and have gone to Colombia perhaps seven times as much as I have to the DR. That is my personal experience. Perhaps there are gents who have been to both countries who have mongered more times in the DR than they have in Colombia; I would suppose that their experiences differed from mine. Nevertheless, I would never discourage anyone from visiting the DR, I would advise worthy chaps to visit both countries if their budget allows and decide for themselves. In terms of Sosua vs Medellin, Sosua does have the advantage of having a nice beach to chill out and swim after depositing the leche. The DR does have the advantage of being safer than Colombia from my experience. But from a purely mongering point of view Colombia can't be beat.[/QUOTE]As much as I love Colombia, I don't think anyone here will disagree that you are not going to find the same shapely women in places like Medellin that you will in the DR.

I've been spending time seeding my roster on Dominican Cupid and Tinder (set to Santo Domingo) and I see what I have been missing.

I have done a lot of black Colombianas, and in all of my years going there I have not come across any that can compete with Dominicanas shape-wise.

I mean, check out the way these cheeks are flapping under this dress on honey as she walks away:

[URL]https://youtu.be/gvMHD_wHEAc?t=258[/URL]

Now imagine an entire local with a large concentration of chicas just like that! You are just not seeing much of that in Colombia no matter how hard you look.

To-date the biggest (non-plastic) asses I've ever been with outside of the US was in the DR. I can imagine that the only other place far greater for this look is Rio (still have not been yet).

[QUOTE=PiruGuy;2563091]First, I have read the Forum but came up empty on chica friendly hotels. I am planning a trip to Santo Domingo in June. I would appreciate any help with hotels or best location in the city to stay for easy mongering. Thank you.[/QUOTE]Stay close to the Malecon. Ask the hotel to explain the policy for guests in your room. Or go with an AirBnB. I cannot suggest an exact area because I do not know your style of mongering.

But I can honestly say I don't have nothing much for you because (well you know). There are many other frequent visitors who could point you in the right direction if they would just stop talking about Sosua in the Santo Domingo forum and help a new guy out.