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I arrived in Pattaya directly from Bangkok this time around. Decided against making a pit stop in BKK, for cost reasons, I suppose. The flight was late by an hour, immigration lines were long and finally I managed to take a coach and reach Pattaya at 3 pm (I should have reached at 1 pm.
Pipe Layer had already booked me into Noble Place 2 on soi Lengkee for 3 nights. The rate I paid was 700 baht each night. The room is self sufficient, no security desk which collects the girls cards, but you have your own un-impeded access to your room.
Smoking is permitted only in the balconies.
After checking in, I had hoped to catch shut eye for 2-3 hours before heading out. But since I had a lot of pent up energy from anticipation, I could not control. Immediately began working the phone, but before tangible success could be achieved, my freebie called and wanted to come over. I had met her on my last trip, she gave me a lift to Mixx and I got her number. We kept in touch, and she was more than happy to come over.
I had often times thought if I should schedule the freebie for the last day, since I didn't want a clinger on my hands. But as fate would have it, I managed to circumvent that. The girl came over and I had probably my quickest shag. I came in copious amounts, I would not cum like this for the rest of my trip. I gave her some taxi money and I told her that Pipe Layer was expecting to catch up over drinks.
Met him for drinks around 8-9 pm and we ended up drinking and chatting for the longest time, before Pipe Layer suggested that we get on the business I had come to Pattaya for. We headed to Red Car, and although there were several pretty girls, I did not meet with much success. PL played the perfect wingman, but I was not able to motivate myself to pounce on the girls, I had not slept in 48 hours.
PL found a pretty girl with an amazing posterior. While he left, I hung around on walking street hoping that mojo would return and I could pick someone. I waited outside Lucifer for a while, amongst the several LB streetwalkers there were one or two pretty girls. They wanted 2000. Never mind, I just went back to the hotel. Slept like a baby for 8 hrs.
I was raring to go the next day. But still not motivated, I was glad that I had come to warmer climes from the chills in Delhi, but day time Pattaya heat is just exhausting. So after working the phone for a bit, setting up something for later, I did a walk through chaiyapoon and honey. During the day there just isn't great optics to be found.
After this I headed to soi 6, walked up and down twice and was happy to note that there was improvement in the general quality. Only one cute little thing managed to make me stop dead in my tracks, thankfully she smiled, or else I would have walked on. Ordered a drink and chatted with her all of 10 minutes and she had me hard. The bar if I remember correctly was Offshore Bar. Drinks were priced at 90 baht, standard upstairs room rent was 300 and while all the other girls would go for 700, this one stuck to her guns and made me pay 1000. Well I wasn't willing to pass up on it, as it is, it is little difficult to find my type for a lesser price.
The shag was good, she was a good trooper and throughout kept making eye contact with me through the mirrors. She won't be around very long, she is hoping to find a job in Singapore where supposedly her friend makes big money. Soi 6 just can't keep its pretty working girls around for long.
Around 8 pm, met up with PL, the girl from Red Car had just gone home for a shower and rest, PL and I had a steak dinner. Again, less motivated, we did a run of the bars and didn't find anything too exciting. Did a short walk on beach road and there were definitely 2/3 decent ones around. I didn't have the mileage to take another girl this night.
Next day it was post 12, and found another working girl (semi) through the phone, who was willing to come over for 700 baht. Very well, a quick bang in my room and morning wood was taken care off. Didn't even get her name.
At night we did a go go crawl, went through Mandarin, Sugarbabys, sweethearts, Sensations and Bacarra. We knew we weren't going to bar fine the hotties, we were just there to drink and grab some tits and ass. Very fulfilling indeed. Saw one doofus at Sensations, who got up on stage and was throwing 20 baht notes around and the girls including waitresses were all over the place picking it up and screaming. Saw one waitress sustain a minor head bump in the process 555.
After all this entertainment, it was time to get down to business. I-bar was the next spot, and this time unlike my previous visits hoped to snag something early in the night (it was 1. 30 am when we entered). Half way through walking around and checking the women all around, I again stopped dead in my tracks seeing this cute little thing in a very nice knee length frock
with black and white check print, sitting on a table and sipping water. Her friend was dancing with some farang and they were smoking shisha.
I got the initial crap out of the she was happy to go back with me for 1,500. We did some dancing and getting to know each other. While PL was fondling two girls at one time LOL, so after half and hour or so, I took the girl back to my room. She seemed a little reluctant, and within 10 odd minutes of arriving at the room, her friend called up saying that the farang was done. Damn that guy got conned out of 2000 for short time.
My girl also wanted to do short time, I informed her that for short time I would not pay more than 1000. She readily agreed. CBJ was not fun, no deep kissing either. Anyways, she did provide great GFE minus the making out. I still think it was a good shag for 1000.
Caught sleep for 5 odd hours and it was time to check out. Kept my bag at the reception, after a couple of beers at Triangle bar, took a moto taxi to the club on Pratamnak. PL and I tried visiting this place the previous night but it was closing time. Today I sat around and saw the line up which was decent, took one girl into the room and had a session. This session began with a CBJ, damn. I should have asked this upfront. Anyways took the longest time to cum, but couldn't manage it. I was all out of juice.
Pattaya isn't too bad during high season, more girls around, but also a lot more tourists. I avoided walking street as much as possible, but when I couldn't I always surrounded by flag bearing massive tour groups, wtf.
Can't wait to come back soon, this time the wait will be longer.
[QUOTE=ActionOriented;1674862]I waited outside Lucifer for a while, amongst the several LB streetwalkers there were one or two pretty girls. They wanted 2000. Never mind, I just went back to the hotel. Slept like a baby for 8 hrs.
[/QUOTE]Hehe, I think that either you were properly fooled, or our tastes for women are very different. There are no pretty girls working directly across Lucifer. If you mean the small framed "people", with a cute face, no implants no tattoos no aggressive features etc, they were born male. They just cater to a different customer base based on their natural body type, and stay in a group of similar characteristics to reinforce the impression.
There can be women standing a little by the side, most often alone, but they are not pretty at all. Only rarely one can find a good looking working standing still on walking street. Because by established customs, ladies have to [I]walk[/I].
[QUOTE=ActionOriented;1674862]I arrived in Pattaya directly from Bangkok this time
Can't wait to come back soon, this time the wait will be longer.[/QUOTE]This was a pretty short and quick visit. Guess best way to spend weekend out when the entire Indian capital is under lock down due to President Obama visit.
Can't wait for my upcoming Visit. Hope the season crowd would have thinned out by then. Would be my second and critical visit.
Lucky for you to have friend like PL along. Makes life simpler and faster with his immense knowledge and experience of the local scene.
[QUOTE=OldNewGuy;1674933]Hehe, I think that either you were properly fooled, or our tastes for women are very different. There are no pretty girls working directly across Lucifer. If you mean the small framed "people", with a cute face, no implants no tattoos no aggressive features etc, they were born male. They just cater to a different customer base based on their natural body type, and stay in a group of similar characteristics to reinforce the impression.
There can be women standing a little by the side, most often alone, but they are not pretty at all. Only rarely one can find a good looking working standing still on walking street. Because by established customs, ladies have to [I]walk[/I].[/QUOTE]You are right. I stood outside Lucifer for a while, there were two groups, one which was very plasticy and one could make out that most were LBs and within this group one or two were skinny, plasticy but did not give off overt signs of being LBs, and then there is a second group which stands closer to family mart that had nothing great. I did enquire only with one of the plasticy girl, but didn't take her back. Soon enough there was a group of men who came and hired a big cab and took 4-5 of these street walkers. If these working girls were born male at some point, then who ever surgically altered them did a fine job with some, had me fooled purely on optics.
Nice FR Actionman! Thanks for getting the thread back on track!
I too have been fooled by the "ladies" outside Lucifer. Some of them look pretty damn good. Though you are right there is something a little plastic about them that is off. And they really stick together. They remind me of a school of exotic little fish.
I've never ben so fooled as to take one. It seems hat they only go with Asian punters anyway.
[QUOTE=UncleVolodya;1675228]Nice FR Actionman! Thanks for getting the thread back on track!
I too have been fooled by the "ladies" outside Lucifer. Some of them look pretty damn good. Though you are right there is something a little plastic about them that is off. And they really stick together. They remind me of a school of exotic little fish.
I've never ben so fooled as to take one. It seems hat they only go with Asian punters anyway.[/QUOTE]When you say a little plastic having a Adam apple consider plastic? I hang out outside Lucifer whenever I'm down W. S. For the entertainment to kill time. You see regulars just outside P72 behind the police table, then further down past Sweethearts is the Roo bar (a few good lookers in there too) you have another set of FL.
My observation is the opposite from yours that they only go with Asians. They seem to go more with the Arabs and particularly with the Indians. Not sure Indians are consider Asians? In the past, i use to park my bike on Beach road and walk just to see what is available. What I generally saw was although many to choice from it seem the Indians would always pick the LadyBoys. I once saw the expression on a few girls like they were jealous they weren't getting picked.
I just came away thinking that Indians genetics might have some sugar in their tanks which I know isn't true.
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;1675304]When you say a little plastic having a Adam apple consider plastic? I hang out outside Lucifer whenever I'm down W. S. For the entertainment to kill time. You see regulars just outside P72 behind the police table, then further down past Sweethearts is the Roo bar (a few good lookers in there too) you have another set of FL.
My observation is the opposite from yours that they only go with Asians. They seem to go more with the Arabs and particularly with the Indians. Not sure Indians are consider Asians? In the past, i use to park my bike on Beach road and walk just to see what is available. What I generally saw was although many to choice from it seem the Indians would always pick the LadyBoys. I once saw the expression on a few girls like they were jealous they weren't getting picked.
I just came away thinking that Indians genetics might have some sugar in their tanks which I know isn't true.[/QUOTE]LOL that's harsh. While I saw several Indians approach the people of plastic, it was mostly the Arabs (perhaps Turks) who picked them up for boom. Didn't see any Asians or Indians actually pick them.
Its good to hear that some working girls are jealous of the fact that some Indians prefer taking LBs over regular street walkers, perhaps that won't be the case if they were willing to accept a better price. Who knows?
[QUOTE=ActionOriented;1675315]LOL that's harsh. While I saw several Indians approach the people of plastic, it was mostly the Arabs (perhaps Turks) who picked them up for boom. Didn't see any Asians or Indians actually pick them.
Its good to hear that some working girls are jealous of the fact that some Indians prefer taking LBs over regular street walkers, perhaps that won't be the case if they were willing to accept a better price. Who knows?[/QUOTE]Didn't mean to be harsh sorry! You are correct I do see more Arabs than the Indians particularly on W. S. And honestly I haven't been on Beach road for some time. But when I did I saw lots of Indians negotiating with the LB'S, plus many of the stories or robberies in Pattaya were reported by Indians being drugged and robbed in their hotels by them. Haven't read any lately on the local expats papers.
I use the walk way that is right where P72, is located, if you walk up that Soi which leads to 2nd Road, there is the White Rose 1&2, I see lots of Indians staying here going in and out with LB and regular FL.
[QUOTE=Mogwai;1674484]The location of OZO is OK. Bars on Second Road and LK Metro are at walking distance. Walking Street is a bit further away but not really far, you can either walk all the way (15 min.) or walk to Beach Road and take a bath bus from there.
If you print out the hotel's address, preferably in Thai, then it shouldn't be too difficult to find. Try to find a driver from Pattaya in the arrival hall who has just dropped of a customer. He will be happy to drive you for about 1000 to 1200 bath. But please negotiate and ask if the highway tolls are included or not!
Alternatively you can arrange a taxi in advance. There are several email addresses mentioned on this forum of reliable drivers.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the tip Mogwai. I'll look for a driver from Pattaya. I also see that you are in Phnom Penh. After 10 days in Pattaya I am heading there as well next month for a few days.
Really excited for this trip. My only mongering experience has been Sosua which is really such a small area. Pattaya has so many streets and venues it seems like a daunting task to take it all in.
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;1675304]When you say a little plastic having a Adam apple consider plastic? I hang out outside Lucifer whenever I'm down W. S. For the entertainment to kill time. You see regulars just outside P72 behind the police table, then further down past Sweethearts is the Roo bar (a few good lookers in there too) you have another set of FL.
My observation is the opposite from yours that they only go with Asians. They seem to go more with the Arabs and particularly with the Indians. Not sure Indians are consider Asians? In the past, i use to park my bike on Beach road and walk just to see what is available. What I generally saw was although many to choice from it seem the Indians would always pick the LadyBoys. I once saw the expression on a few girls like they were jealous they weren't getting picked.
I just came away thinking that Indians genetics might have some sugar in their tanks which I know isn't true.[/QUOTE]Maybe we are not talking about the same ones.
These girls pretty much shun all non -Asian punters. When they do see Asian guys they go crazy trying to wave them over.
They are very young looking and not a whole lot of hints that they are LBs (Adam's apple etc.) Also not outrageously feminine like the LBs that hang out down the road opposite I-bar.
In fact I'm still not 100% sure they are LBs.
Admittedly this observation is mostly form August, But I do remember passing them in January too on my way to I-bar.
I don't understand why there is so much going on about Indians. I have had the best of the time in Pattaya despite being the traditionally un-gifted one as perceived by most in the forum. I have never needed another man to score with the best of the chicks. Insomnia and Mixx were familiar hunting grounds and I haven't returned empty handed, ever! So deal with it and make peace with what we have. Its an open playground and lets all hope that the best man wins. Period!
Most of my opinions and comments reflect and are the result of me being a tourist in town for a few days only, only a few basic words of Thai spoken.
It was my third time in Pattaya, 4 days and nights including New Year's Eve: due to the festive season prices were up, but so was the excitement level!
My main source of p4p action was the gogo bars, with a surgical dash of soi 6 and Devils Den in the afternoon.
[size=4][red]the gogo bars of Walking St[/red][/size]
Once again: Wow!
[b]AIRPORT CLUB[/b]
In such a small place sometimes its just a matter of timing, but the quality of the girls has gone downhill compared to my two previous trips.
[b]ALCATRAZ[/b]
Once again totally baffled by its lack of girls on stage and around: venue wise it would seem to have a lot of potential. Picked one here (very late into the night) at 1,500+3,000 long-time.
[b]BACCARA[/b]
Still rocking, even more of a Japanese hunting ground, to the point of putting westerners off, but pretty, long legged, toned beauties in amazing numbers.
[b]CASNOVY[/b]
Hot girls, high but not crazy prices, super cool mamasan, and the bar with the best layout . Picked one here at the very strange price of 2,500+2,500 baht, Im not sure if it was some kind of special agreement due to my good standing with the mamasan, and I didnt ask. The total was in the Happy/Baccara range so within my self-imposed spending limits.
[b]FAHRENHEIT[/b]
Middle of the road, one of those venues where either you bump into the right girl or you leave after 10 minutes.
[b]GINZA[/b]
Small and narrow: poor layout and quite uncomfortable seating.
[b]GLASSHOUSE[/b]
Very hot girls, but the most expensive gogo of them all: 3 days before New Year I was quoted 2.000 for bar-fine and 8.000 for long-time.
[b]HAPPY[/b]
Third time in Pattaya and third time I selected a girl from this gogo: in my humble opinion it strikes the best balance of venue layout, girls beauty, girls attention to customers, quality of sex service, and price. Always unfailingly packed. Paid 1,500 (I think) + 4,000 long time.
[b]MANDARIN[/b]
A very small bar, and the below average ladies coupled with their resigned body language made it my least favorite gogo of this trip.
[b]SENSATIONS[/b]
Super hot girls, and I liked the way it was run by the military minded mamasans, but too expensive for my pockets.
[b]SPANKYS[/b]
Not enough customers, not enough pretty girls.
[b]SUPER BABY[/b]
At the time of my only visit every single stool around the stage was empty.
[b]THE MOON CLUB[/b]
During my last visit it had barely open and I liked it immensely, but this time around it lacked quality girls, patrons, and therefore any kind of atmosphere.
[b]THE SEA[/b]
Not enough customers, not enough pretty girls
[size=4][red]soi 6[/red][/size]
As fun as ever, especially between 7 and 10pm.
I can confirm the 1.000 + 300 baht fixed prices, which, if you find what youre looking for, even with the increased price its still a bargain for roughly one hour of fun with a motivated girl.
Appearance-wise, anyone whos been there at least once knows you do not hunt for beauty: if in your book shes a 6,5/10 its more than enough.
Language-wise, if she can understand the question whats your name? its more than enough.
So what should you look for? Whatever might not be on offer with a gogo girl, namely deepthroat, anal, cim whatever kinky practice (without going into Devils Den territory) rocks your boat.
[size=4][red]Devils Den[/red][/size]
New website: [url]http://devilsdenthailand.com/[/url]
As per my previous experiences, a good time will be had if you show up with some plan of what you want to do and/or be done to you.
This time my ladies, booked in advance, were Cory (an incredibly hard pair of gluteus muscles, like stone really) and Cake (tireless in her bj pumping action).
The price for the standard 1,5 hours has gone up 400 baht, from 3,600 to 4,000. I tipped them both 200, I think.
[size=4][red]the gogo bars of soi LK Metro[/red][/size]
The venues, being generally newer than their Walking St counterparts, are nicer looking, the average quality of the girls is about the same, but compared to Walking St there are in my opinion two downsides:
- no bar with top quality girls
- being (still) limited in number, you can do all the gogos in one evening
Also, some of us prefer the relative quiet and discretion of this area compared to WS, but in my case the first is a negative and the second I dont care about.
Still, I selected one lady at 1,500+4,000 long time.
[size=3][red]HOTEL[/red][/size]
[url]http://www.baywalkresidencepattaya.com[/url]
My trusted Mercure was fully booked, so after a some research I opted for [b]Baywalk Residence[/b], which:
- is girlfriendly
- is located on the Beach Road, close enough to Walking St that theres no need of transportation
- has an in-room private safe and wi-fi
- has staff that answered very quickly to my mails at the time of booking.
In the [i]Pattaya hotels[/i] thread I posted some pics:
[post]1675421[/post].
[size=3][red]PHOTOS and VIDEO[/red][/size]
In the [i]photo gallery[/i] thread I posted a few more girls pics: [post]1675433[/post].
Also, I made a little video of my stay, basic stuff:
YouTube - [url]http://youtu.be/9aYoAtCfP-4[/url]
Vimeo - [url]https://vimeo.com/118051162[/url] (the password is Ryo Saeba)
Theres no sex and only a couple of nude photos, but I decided not to list it and disabled the comments: hopefully this way it wont attract unwanted attention and never get canceled.
[i][b]As always, a big THANK YOU goes to all the brothers who posted good info during the years[/b][/i]
Ryo
[QUOTE=ActionOriented;1675315]LOL that's harsh. While I saw several Indians approach the people of plastic, it was mostly the Arabs (perhaps Turks) who picked them up for boom. Didn't see any Asians or Indians actually pick them.
Its good to hear that some working girls are jealous of the fact that some Indians prefer taking LBs over regular street walkers, perhaps that won't be the case if they were willing to accept a better price. Who knows?[/QUOTE]Curious, what would be a better price? Also what is the group rate I see you guys try for on Beach Rd?
[QUOTE=RyoSaeba;1675494]Most of my opinions and comments reflect and are the result of me being a tourist in town for a few days only, only a few basic words of Thai spoken.
It was my third time in Pattaya, 4 days and nights including New Year's Eve: due to the festive season prices were up, but so was the excitement level!
[/QUOTE]Great report Ryo. The video brought back good memories. I was up on the 16th floor bar at the Hilton for NYE with my regular. It was nice to also see some video of what things were like down at the pier during the fireworks show. Good times!
I 100% agree with you on airport. That place used to be so much fun! Now I don't even bother going in. As for Casnovy, I have to admit I always thought it was a LB bar (though I never went inside). I seem to remember LBs hanging out outside. But maybe my memory fails me. I will have to check it out next trip.
Thanks again and stay horny my friend (Your Breakfast of Champions will almost guarantee that. LOL)!
Uncle-V.