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[QUOTE=Harold444;1229935]But the girls are darker and uglier in Pattaya![/QUOTE]Well. As they say, beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
There are SO many women in Pattaya and many of them are beautiful. Nothing wrong with a good tan color while I'm drooling.
Also I have never had a 15 or 20 minute short time in Thailand. Maybe only 40 or 45 minutes if it felt really rushed.
C4T
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I miss Thailand and Bangkok. Not just the great sex with pros and non-pros, but the sights, smells, food, weather. And the smiles.
Whoever is living there, remember how much of a lucky bastard you are.
Happy new year, and all! :)
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Breaking up
Hi BJ here.
I would like to share a recent experience with you. About 4 weeks ago I met a nice girl who was the manageress of a massage place. She was slightly younger than me and not a stunner by any stretch but was a genuinely nice person. After getting a massage in the place where she works (it was just a massage, honest) I got talking to her outside and we ended up swapping numbers. A few days later I called her up and we went for a meal and then to the cinema (tower heist, shit film to be honest).
After a few days I decided to ask her to stay over and to my surprise she agreed. Things took a physical turn straight away, which immediately made me think 'well this isn't going to last very long' sex on the first night is a pretty good indication. Let's be honest all men are slags and yes this does sound hypocritical but when a woman sleeps with you straight away then say's 'I don't usually do this so quick' it may not mean trouble straight away, but you know it's in the post.
Personally I took the situation as 'let's keep things on a very casual basis' and I was man enough to spell this out to her as well. She agreed and said she did not want to get heavy at such a short time (that was my first mistake). As things progressed her text messages took a more involved tone which began to scare me. Secondly she slowly kept bringing more of her stuff around, I re-iterated my stance on the situation and she kept smiling, nodding and agreeing (que my second mistake). I have heard, as all of us have, bad stories about the wrath of women the world over, but Thai women are the world heavy weight champions when it comes to the woman scorned scenario.
Things began to take a more sinister turn when she started to ask me if I had been going to go-go bars, and bringing ladies back to my place, so much for the casual basis thing. I would jokingly say that I had had 3 bar women round the night before and she took it as the light hearted jibe it was intended to be (Hello, mistake number three). Well things came to a head last weekend when I went out to Soi Cowboy with some of the staff from my bar. I drank and danced (badly) way too much and had a massive hangover the next day. I had to make my way to Pattaya to attend a Christmas party and she called me up asking all sorts of stupid (not to a woman I guess) questions. I was getting seriously pissed off with the whole state of affairs and let her know how I felt. This made her dig her heels in and turn on the water works which summed up the inevitability of my predicament and I thought to myself I really have to bail on this one.
All sorts of horrific possibilities were racing through my mind as I made my way to Pattaya. What if she does something stupid to herself, fuck what if she does it to me! I decided to put it to the back of my mind and enjoy the party, which I did. On my return to Bangkok I discovered she had been talking to a friend of mine which I had introduced to her and is also female. I have to say all credit to my friend. When I got back on Sunday afternoon I called her up and suggested we had to talk, so she duly arrived. To my great consternation she did all she could to avoid the issue, despite the unmistakable atmosphere in the place (is it just me? Or do Thai people have an amazing ability to ignore the elephant in the room?). She stayed the night, no sex, and I slept with one eye open. She doesn't come across as the malicious type but you can never be sure. Anyway I woke up on Monday with my penis and all my possessions intact, good start to the day I thought.
This is where the credit to my friend part comes in. This lady sat me down and said that she felt we were looking for two different things from the relationship (que my amazement and extreme hesitation). She then went on to say that there was no reason the situation had to end acrimoniously, we are both old enough and experienced enough not to be silly about it and that if possible she would like to remain friends. I was quite taken aback by her attitude and a bit skeptical about her honesty but we parted in good faith and have spoken a few times since she is genuinely ok about the situation. It turns out the stuff she said was exactly what my friend had said to her on the phone. Since this I have even registered her on a web site to meet European men. I will count myself very lucky on this occasion.
Finally I would like to share a couple of funny things which happened in the bar. I got talking to a guy who turned out to be American; he asked if I was French? I said no, that I was Scottish and he replied 'Scottish, which country is that'? The second was three English guys who started asking all kinds of stupid questions and the best one was, one of the guys pointed at the microwave and said 'what's that microwave for'? I kid you not.
Regards,
BJ
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[QUOTE=Crazy4Thai; 1229954]Well. As they say, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. There are SO many women in Pattaya and many of them are beautiful. Nothing wrong with a good tan color while I'm drooling. Also I have never had a 15 or 20 minute short time in Thailand. Maybe only 40 or 45 minutes if it felt really rushed.
C4T[/QUOTE]Skin color is a minor factor in my appraisal of beauty. I have been with some lovely darker skinned Thais as well as gorgeous Indo girls. It is mainly Asian guys that put a premium on lighter skin color. Although lately, I am getting hard for super hot light skinned Chinese girls in Macau and HKG, but that is another story.
Go Go or FL ST means one shot and you are done. So ST may be 3 minutes. 7 minutes. 40 minutes or a hour depending on the man and the circumstance. After an hour, even a good Thai girl will want you to finish up. In a quality massage parlor ST means the time you contracted for - an hour, 90 minutes or more with as many shags (usually 2) as possible.
Merry Christmas or Winter Solstice (Dec 22) if you prefer.
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Tagged girl (updated)
[QUOTE=Somewhere15; 1193967]Mid July and mid August I stayed in Bangkok, both for around one week.
Through Tagged I made some contact and during the weeks before in Southern China and Hong Kong I had regular contact with one particular girl.
In China in some hotels I could make contact with Tagged in other hotels / service apartments the service was blocked by government. So with interruption we had contact and she was willing to send me some pictures by regular e-mail.
On specific questions like 'what do you expect from meeting me in BKK' and 'what are you rules when we meet' she did not give an reaction.
Finally she agreed to meet with me directly after my return to Bangkok what was on a Sunday, beginning of August in the late afternoon / early evening.
She gave me here phone number and during my stay in Hong Kong I send her some SMS to (re) confirm.
One returned to Bangkok I decided not to contact her and waited to see if she would take the first step (she had ask around which time I would arrive in Bangkok).
Playing pool in the late afternoon in Gulliver's with another girl she send me an SMS to check if I was already arrived.
I lied a little and said just there and still unpacking etc. And we agreed to meet within 1, 5 hour at the Landmark terrace.
Not sure if my pool partner was taking my attention or something else but I totally forgot the time and more than one hour after we had SMS contact and she said she was leaving her house (in On Nut).
I left Gulliver's (while rain was starting to give some horrible hours) , so I had to take a cab in Soi 3 to drop me in my Hotel in Soi 6.
Just entering the reception I got a phone call 'where are you'. Uhm. Waiting for the rain, no taxis here so give me another 15 minutes dear.
Around 30 minutes later, after a quick shower (you never know) and changing clothes the taxi dropped me at the Landmark and it was clear with this weather nobody on the terrace. So walking to the tables inside of the Landmark I passed a hot sexy girl and took my phone to call me date and. The hot sexy girl. Waved to me as two old friend who meet again.
After a hug and my compliments I decided to pay her drink and invited her over to the restaurant.
We ordered and had a nice conversation and it was clear for me.
The girl was around mid 20's. 170 cm (with heels) , curvy but not fat and a great personalty, chemistry was building between us.
After the first course I said let we go down to the Huntsman bar what we did.
This gave me the possibility to view her backside and in the bar I took one of the corner places.
It was around 8 PM and only a view people where there.
We continued with some food and drinks but this time we where seated next to each other. Quickly my arm goes around her shoulder and I could feel her breast and bump very well.
Within the next 15 minutes I said let we go to my hotel room there we have more privacy and. She only smiled.
In the taxi (it was still raining, raining and raining) I kissed her neck and she also gave some attention to my extras and in the elevator we started tongue kissing. In the room we immediately go down on the couch and we touched each other nicely and for a very long time while parts of the clothes where coming down. We had a shower for around 15 minutes and after that we continued on the bed. Nearly all positions that I ever did where on the menu and I came at least 2 times into the next hours.
We even slept for a while and around midnight I started the conversation what she had to do the next day. She said nothing particular and she asked me and what about you. I started a story that I had some conference calls the next day so it would be better if we slept separate. Not sure if she was fine or disappointed with that but we agreed that we would meet again as I was in Bangkok for 10 days.
We continued with sex for another hours or so, she allowed me more or less everything but no anal and I asked if I could come in her mount, she gave me only a smile and around 10 minutes later she got the full load.
Normally, in my experience, girls go quickly after this to the bathroom and spiff it out but she sucked me for another 5 minutes and left down in my arm. My Tagged girl.
I gave her 1. 500 THB (nothing about money was discussed ever before) for taxi.
Sorry no pictures. I try to meet her again and will try to get her for LT or even for some days.[/QUOTE]As my business was really poor and also helped by the Thai flooding I had to skip my business trip to China and Thailand in October but I needed to have some vendor meetings in December.
This gave me also the opportunity to see if I could renew the contact with one of my Tagged girls. Some weeks before over the internet was started messages exchange and she told me that her mother's business was impacted by the flooding and that it was really poor in business (tell me something).
Before coming to Thailand I needed to go to China and Hong Kong and we made an agreement to meet each other again just after my arrival in Bangkok. Some hours before meeting I got an SMS in which she mentioned she had to see her mother (WTF) so we had to change our plans to the next days. What could I do: mothers in some Thai families are the same as the King in Thailand.
I did not reply to her SMS that day and the next day around 17:30 I replied to her SMS questioning will be meet, where and how late. I got an immediately reply saying she would have shower and we would meet at 7 pm at the Landmark. At 18:40 she called me (I was just in my apartment) and she was (already) in the Landmark. So I had to change clothes quickly and walked from Soi 6 to the Landmark where I met her around 7 PM. As old friends we greeted each other and after finishing her drink we decided to go to the Huntmans Bar under the Landmark Hotel. More or less a repeat from what was described in my previous post with this girl. At around 09:30 pm we landed in my apartment. I brought her a small present (a small selection of mini perfumes) which was received very well, she gave me here lovely return.
After some hours of action at around midnight I asked her if I should turn off the lights in which she agreed. As I have a two room apartment I also had to go to the other room and when doing this I decided already that I would putt 1. 500 THB to her perfumes (I was not sure when she would leave). At around 06:00 AM she made me wake up questioning how late it was. 06:00 AM and she made a lot of Thai noise (I totally could not understand) and she quickly goes to the bathroom. Within a minute she got from the bathroom to the living and said in broken English that she did not had the intention to stay and now had to go because she needed to start work at 08:00 AM. Without light on she dressed up and gave me a quick kiss and left. Some hours later she gave me an message saying 'thank you and enough you stay in Bangkok'. I will try to get her again in for one of the next nights.
Conclusion: a valuable contact.
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Star of Light
Dear Friends,
I am considered a newbie in ISG forum. I happened to find info about the infamous BJ bar SOL and found a good deal of info about this place in the forum. BTW, I am also a great fan of this place. I will be in Bangkok in about a month and I am planning to spend time in there. I have some questions that I couldn't find the answer for in the forum. I would be glad if you help me find the answers:
- I am an exhibitionist kind of guy. And I only enjoy public sex when both my partner and I are totally nude. Is it possible for me and my girl to get fully nude in SOL in front of the others and fuck each other?
- I heard that anal sex is also possible in the bar. Do all the girls provide anal sex by default in the so-called boom-boom mode or should I check / ask the girl whether she'll do it or not?
- In other posts by senior forum members it has been stated several times that bareback sex is also possible in SOL. Generally, how safe is it to go bareback with girls in SOL? IMHO, most of the time they only do blow jobs which is less likely to transmit HIV or other severe STDs so the risk should be relatively lower comparing to go-go girls. Am I right? Do they test for HIV and other STDs on a regular basis?
- And at last, should I give the tip to the girl? Or should I give the tip on top of my bill to the bar tender?
I would be grateful if you answer my questions.
Thanks a lot!
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Tasting Asia
Merry Christmas board!
I was reading this forum for a long time and decided to write short report from my trip back in March. Excuse my English. It's my third language spoken and I'm not good at it.
I was for two weeks in LOS: 8 days in BKK and 6 in Phuket. I'm 35 and usually have no problem with picking up girls in Europe but I was tempted to try some of Asian specialities. I must admit that I'm not really into P4P scene but done a few girls in Ukraine, Greece, Holland.
I had chatted with maybe 20 girls off badoo and thaifriendly before I arrived to BKK so I had a few phone numbers and contacts. First night I met cute tiny 30 whyear old office girl from BKK with decent English. Dinner in Emporium, a few drinks in one of a clubs on suk soi 7 and around 1 a. M. I still really wasn't sure if I was playing right as the girl was sweet and funny but kind of reserved. Anyway decided to push things forward, asked to go to my hotel and she agreed. Back in hotel she acted very shy and unbelievably GFE but almost everything was on an offer so no complaints. We went sleep around 5 a. M. And she woke up at 7a. M. Saying that she has to go to work at 9 so quick shower, breakfast, money for the taxi (500 BHT) , a few hugs / kisses and "see you later alligator". Total cost: 4000 BHT
During the days I did all the usual and unusual tourist attractions: floating market, Chinatown, king's castle, Ayutthaya, temples, Jim Thompson's house, shopping (MBK, Emporium, Siam.) and everything I could find in my guides and on internet.
Next evening I decided to stroll around NANA and Soi Cowboy. I took a tour around the bars and gogos but nothing took my interest so decided to sit in a bar on the ground floor in NANA and watch the crowd. Then I spotted this old guy with super cute, dark skinned, maybe 18 whyear old Thai treasure. I quickly asked bar person where that girl is from and she pointed on one of the gogo bars upstairs. OK, quickly finished my beer and rushed in hunting for the same trophy for myself. I went in, sat down on one of the tables, took a beer and started tagging the ladies. After a couple of minutes I spotted one very similar girl sitting in a corner with customer. I looked at her and smiled a few times. She smiled back and after 15 minutes she was sitting with me. Poor English but we made a deal for 2000 BHT ST + 600 BF. Back to my hotel, shower and unrushed service. She was one of the best girls I've ever slept with. I think that the top level of professionalism in P4P is when you cannot say that she is fake and do it for money but again I'm not that experienced. IMO there was nothing artificial. So different from pros in Amsterdam or Frankfurt! Absolutelly fantastic session!
Next day I went to MP on Soi 5. I took nice looking 30+ girl with blink of devil in eyes and small tattoo on her arm. She was doing massage for maybe 30 minutes but no sign or talk of extras. Finally she turned me over on my back and couldn't miss my best friend ready for action. She smiled and I asked how bad she can be to me and my best friend. She smiled and said that she can only be very good and for 1000 BHT she can be even better. I agreed and she started with mechanical HJ, then BJ. I freed her a bit saggy tits and pumped in cow girl. It was kind of strange to hear other customers only behind thin walls. Almost like sex in a fitting room in shopping mall. Quick finish, cleaning with warm, wet towels and time to go. Nice shot but not sure if I'll repeat.
Evening spent with another office girl from BKK. 28 whyear old kind of sweet, a bit ignorant and silly gal but body 9/10. We did almost the same round of action as the first day: dinner on a roof of one of the hotels, a few drinks etc back to hotel, one full round and I delicately sent her home as I planned to wake up early the next day.
For the rest of my time in BKK I stick to the first girl and wanted to take her with me to Phuket but she declined due to work obligations. It was great time and I can't wait to fly to Asia again. I have Chinese girl at this moment but still miss BKK etc.
I did also two FL picked in Hollywood Disco in Pathong, Phuket but not much to say about it.
Two funny situations that suprised me a lot:
1. One morning I had enough of Thai food and decided to go to McDonald's near NANA behind gas station. I was sitting behind a window and eating my burger when one lady around 35, a bit rounded but still OK and with beautiful face drove to gas station and started tanking her bike. She spotted me looking at her through the window and smiling at her. She turned away but after a sec she looked at me again and smiled back. She finished filling her bike, paid, drove around the station, parked in front of McD and came over to me with nice smile. I was shocked but couldn't miss such an opportunity. She spoke great English and was on her way for shopping. We chatted for maybe 15 minutes and there was definitely chemistry building between us. I asked if she can go with me to my hotel but she said that she is busy at this moment and can meet me around 2 pm I had flight to Phuket at 4 pm so I couldn't do it but still it was really surprising.
2. I was eating on one morning in Burger King on the road parallel to the beach in Pathong. It was quiet there so I started chatting with young cutie named Nam behind the counter. The response was very cheerful, she gave me her phone no and promised to meet me that evening. Very young but definitely experienced. We spent some time on Bangla Road eating, drinking, playing, dancing and joking. Then to my hotel and average action throughout the night but still such a young, beautiful and playful kid is not an easy target for 30+ guy back in Europe.
Bottom line: Thailand is wonderful place, girls are amazing, food is good, people are polite, plenty of attraction everywhere and I would love to move there if only someone would pay me European rate for my job.
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[QUOTE=Harold444;1230093]Seems the contact is more valuable to her- if anyone cares to read between the lines! Just wondering if anyone else would fall for the girl saying she had to go to work at 8am, . If work was so important wouldn't she have already factored this in in meeting this fine gentleman. This is just another happenstance that makes little sense.[/QUOTE]It makes little sense that someone has to work and doesn't want to be late and risk losing their job? I don't get it. From Somewhere's post he states that he met up with a girl from Tagged that he has known for sometime and has met up with before. She was busy the first day (and let him know well ahead of time), but showed up 20 minutes early the next day. She stayed with him from 7pm until 6am. She did not ask him for anything this time, nor did she ask anything from him the previous time. He voluntarily gave her a gift of perfume and secretly gave her 1500 baht. Where is the mystery? She enjoys his company and he likes to give unsolicited gifts / money. It seems he has a gem on his hands. A nice-looking woman who works, likes to fuck him and spend time with him, and doesn't ask him for shit.
I meet girls from Tagged all the time who have regular jobs. Some of them I fuck once, some of them I fuck regularly, and some of them I don't fuck at all. But to none of them do I give gifts or money and none is expected. If I do not get her from a bar, go-go, off the street where she is assuming the street walker position, or from a disco where she is a known hooker, then why would I?
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Tagged contact
[QUOTE=Harold444; 1230093]Seems the contact is more valuable to her- if anyone cares to read between the lines!
Just wondering if anyone else would fall for the girl saying she had to go to work at 8am, .
If work was so important wouldn't she have already factored this in in meeting this fine gentleman.
This is just another happenstance that makes little sense.[/QUOTE]Thanks for your comment. A while ago there was a discussion in this section about chemistry.
For me (after meeting this girl more times) I still have the believe that she is very genuine.
And let we be reasonable: many of us meet freelancers here where we know that they are not a freelancer (never understand that word in relation as it is sometimes used) but they are really professionals who meet at least once or more times a day one of us. Many of us pay more than 1. 500 THB (and on top barfines etc.).
I spend this year around 150 days out of 360 in Bangkok; I know what is available / possible etc.
This contact (for me) is valuable. After my earlier post I had some PM's from others to forward her contact details what I denied becuase I have to respect this girl / her situation.
She is not a 10 (as sometimes described by others) , much more a 7 but. Once of the better girls that I have met in 2011 (including looking to value for money and. We never discussed money).
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Tagged contact
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1230143]It makes little sense that someone has to work? I don't get it. From Somewhere's post he states that he met up with a girl from Tagged that he has known for sometime and has met up with before. She was busy the first day, but showed up 20 minutes early the next day. She stayed with him from 7pm until 6am. She did not ask him for anything this time, nor did she ask anything from him the previous time. He voluntarily gave her a gift of perfume and secretly gave her 1500 baht. Where is the mystery? She enjoys his company and he likes to give unsolicited gifts / money. I meet girls from Tagged all the time who have regular jobs. Some of them I fuck once, some of them I fuck regularly, and some of them I don't fuck at all. But to none of them do I give gifts or money and none is expected. If I do not get her from a bar, go-go, off the street where she is assuming the street walker position, or from a disco where she is a known hooker, then why would I?[/QUOTE]Thanks for your comment as well.
I agree with your comment and this is also how I experienced it.
The only learning for me is try harder; see if I can get another Tagged (or DIA) contact lined-up who has the same chemistry but is a 8 or 9 (I do not believe in 10's).
Mostly I do not have the time while staying in Bangkok for this type of contacts; for that reason I try to meet girls in places like Guillivers.
Its easier to get within some hours a nice contact but many of them expect also more than the 1. 500 THB that I pay (unasked).
More reports will follow (but probably after some days, currently to bussy with the hobby).
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[QUOTE=Somewhere15;1230146]The only learning for me is try harder; see if I can get another Tagged (or DIA) contact lined-up who has the same chemistry but is a 8 or 9 (I do not believe in 10's).[/QUOTE]Good luck brother. It's hard enough getting the chemistry. And from my experience most of the girls I meet from Tagged look much worse in person than they do in their photos. You would not even know many of them are the same person. When my cousin came over in June he was bragging about all the fine women he had lined up from Tagged. Then when he met them in person he realized that he wouldn't fuck them with a stolen dick. I wish that I knew their photogenic secrets because whatever it is it definitely works.