Jakarta

Found a girl through Twitter (pretty common to find girls through twitter around here). So it's a pretty common thing here to make a downpayment before they send a picture. Made my DP and waited about 2 weeks before she came to town.

Overall: 10/10.

Face: 9/10.

Body: 10/10.

BBBJ: 9/10.

CFS: 9/10 (no BBFS allowed).

Damage: $150 for 2 shots.

[QUOTE=AguaTheCat;2773491]Made my DP and waited about 2 weeks before she came to town.

Overall: 10/10..[/QUOTE]Huuh? Glad to read you enjoyed but she was taking deposits for 2 weeks in the future?

Many girls are advertising "slots" when they are available now or tomorrow. Was it her or you that was busy for 2 weeks?

Cheers.

[QUOTE=Menteng;2770468]Nevertheless, you must know the not so pleasant endings when expats bought property using their Indonesian wife's documentation.[/QUOTE]Very true. For those foreigners staying for a long time / forever it's best to have a continuous stream of income coming in from home than to arrive a buy a heap of illiquid assets locally in someone else's name. That's a recipe for disaster.

You definitely want to be more value to people happy and healthy in country than conveniently out of the way.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2773714]Huuh? Glad to read you enjoyed but she was taking deposits for 2 weeks in the future?

Many girls are advertising "slots" when they are available now or tomorrow. Was it her or you that was busy for 2 weeks?

Cheers.[/QUOTE]OS always politely declines the DP pathway, it's interesting the reaction. One time in Bandung OS declined a twitter DP girl to have her / him instantly turn into some raging psycho. Claiming to be military and prostitution being illegal. Demanded OS settle the offence monetarily.

OS could only invite them to play "OK then. Which one of us has the better contacts " and like a barking dog, my new friend slowly retreated.

Value is an elusive thing, although the pleasure of stumping up money two weeks in advance for some unknown pussy would get some points. A bit like buying futures on the Jakarta cucumber exchange. Maybe somebody can start a little side market here where we all pre order our ladies and then lay off the risk to each other based on whether we think she will turn up.

[QUOTE=OffshoreSwell;2773722]OS always politely declines the DP pathway, it's interesting the reaction. One time in Bandung OS declined a twitter DP girl to have her / him instantly turn into some raging psycho. Claiming to be military and prostitution being illegal. Demanded OS settle the offence monetarily.

OS could only invite them to play "OK then. Which one of us has the better contacts " and like a barking dog, my new friend slowly retreated..[/QUOTE]Para 1. Everyone is welcome to spend or risk their money how they want but I don't know any expats paying DPs. I certainly wouldn't. They are designed to keep broke time wasters away from busy girls and a cashed up, horney foreigner shouldn't fit into either category. Not to mention the gazzilion girls who are ready to go, here and now, with no strings attached.

But as I said, guys can spend their money however they wish.

Para 2. Same thing happened to me but face to face after a dispute over services not going to be delivered. Threats then I just handed her my phone. "Call any General in my Contacts that you want. ". Silence.

Funnily, everything went from arguing over terms for an overnight LT to "How about a fair priced ST and we walk away as friends? A win-win. 😊.

Enjoy. G.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2769977]Some countries (like Iran) have corrupt officials where you can purchase a marriage for some short (very short) specified period of time LOL! Could blossom into a cottage industry in Indonesia hahaha![/QUOTE]
Well this has happened since many years ago in Indonesia. You might get surprised while Indonesia has World Class tourists region such as Bali, Yogyakarta, Bunaken in North Sulawesi Island, Wakatobi in South East Sulawesi, but "Puncak" in west Java, relatively close to Jakarta, is a more popular destination in rich Arabic countries which authorise polygamy. It is also a money making machines for Indonesian Imams as they could get extra incomes by authorising those short term marriages.

Also just be aware of, it is not uncommon that a group of religious extremists (or sort of) led by clerics will go from hotel to hotel to check people who allegedly are unmarried couple. You hardly ever see his practice happen in other countries. So those who said this new law will not effect you be aware.

People might not be too worry if the law was issued in the countries where they have not got a lot of religious extremists which in the past had proven what they were capable of. There are a lot of boarding schools in Indonesia with the students come from the most deprived, poor family. Also these boarding school are mostly for the students who are not smart enough to compete in the most prestigious state funded schools.
These group of people could easily be mobilised by politicians with a very small amount of money. In many occasions providing them with lunches and a small pocket money will be enough to motivate them.

My experience at Orchardz was a bit different. As noted, the entrance is behind the restaurant and you have to use the elevator on the right to go to the third floor. They gave me a wrist band and I went to the lounge. There were at least 10 other guys hanging out. Not sure what they were doing as nobody was drinking. Maybe waiting for a friend to finish?

However, instead of three price ranges, she quoted just one price - 880 k. I said that my friend paid 650 k and she denied it. And she refused to show me any pictures (or TikTok videos) or give me any choice. I asked several times. I assume they do have the tiktok videos, but you have to be Indonesian or something to see them. Or maybe there just weren't many girls available (though the board behind her suggested otherwise). She did ask me if I like young and slim. I nodded my head in the affirmative. I would have just left right there and gone to Classic but for the good reviews on here.

They took me to the room and I waited 5 minutes. As other mentioned, the rooms are very comfortable and the mirrors produce a nice effect. I thought they might give me a choice of girls at that point. Nope. The girl came and she looked OK. Maybe late 20's and pretty enough. Maybe a 7 face. Not a spinner (my preferred type) but slim enough. No English, as expected. But when the dress came off I could see that the boobs were a bit saggy and there was more tummy than I would have liked and it was soft. I'm assuming she is a mommy.

The service at least was good. She started off with a nuru body massage that got exciting pretty quickly. The rest was good too.

Would I repeat here? No. I need to choose the girl. You probably won't get service this good at Classic, but it's cheaper and you get to choose and the girls are probably younger and prettier.

[QUOTE=Pwrmnd;2774490] She did ask me if I like young and slim. [/QUOTE]The one time I went there, I was asked if I wanted "slim or sexy", well to me "sexy" covers slim with a bit of extra oomph! So I went for "sexy". Big mistake, to an Indonesian mami "sexy" means big knockers and ass, chunky in fact, not my type at all. So be careful when making your selection.

In 2019, I did several reports on my "success" with Tinder and Badoo in Jakarta. See below.

Now for March 2023, I am using "Seeking" (Arrangements). I've had pretty good luck rounding up an adequate number of dates. Even this far in advance for MANILA.

Peso expectations have been pretty realistic at around 5000 php for overnight. Some a little less. Along with the oddball who quoted 30,000!

However, I am having a much more difficult time getting reasonable quotes from ladies in Jakarta. I did read on the forum that those prices will come down once you have boots on the ground.

One not so attractive girl quoted $400 usd. YIKES! Another was spot on suggesting 1. 5 juta. In Jakarta, prices are all over the map!

I tried my due diligence but couldn't seem to find the answers. So for now, what are the typical ST and LT rates at places like BATS & CJ's. Or any info you have to help me.

As always, a report of my findings will be posted here.

Cheers, SEA Traveler.

[QUOTE=SeaTraveler;2387601]I started using Tinder, then Badoo about 3 weeks ago because the premium memberships are good for 1 month and I arrive next Wednesday.

FOR THOSE WHO LIKE STATS:

Out of about 150 contacts, I narrowed my list down to 40.

= 2 are real girlfriend material with jobs and cars and interested in a LTR and both seem to be really nice people, young and attractive. I like a few of those too. 2 is about right. No talk or mention of sex.

All the rest have agreed to meet me at Shangri-La and go to my room (which apparently is a sign they are ok with sex or a BJ).

= 23 have not mentioned money at all.

= 16 have asked for money in the form of shopping money or a set amount * some are 1. 0, but mostly 1. 5 juta for ST. Like Smoothy, I prefer ST, but I have one coming from Depok for an overnight for 2 juta. I just couldn't resist her GND look.

= 9 of the P4 P girls have agreed to pictures and video (only 1 turned me down so far), which is why I am ok with 1. 5. I was actually surprised by a few who I thought would say no, but happily agreed.

That's all for now. Over and out!

Cheers, SEA Traveler.

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Strolling thru my archives, found this Indo honey from Blok M. 80 lbs (36 kg), five-footer. Missing Jakarta a bit.

[QUOTE=SeaTraveler;2774856]

I tried my due diligence but couldn't seem to find the answers. So for now, what are the typical ST and LT rates at places like BATS & CJ's. Or any info you have to help me.

As always, a report of my findings will be posted here.

Cheers, SEA Traveler.[/QUOTE]I picked up a regular from BATS when I was in there a couple of months ago. Hadn't seen her since see. 2017. Gave here 100 USD for LT, which is basically what I have given her any night we had met up previously. She is probably in her mid to late 30's, some people might go yikes, but she is one of those gems who hasn't aged a bit. Never had any kids and does look after herself.

A girl who approached me before I spotted the regular quoted 10 m juta for the night. Laughed that off very quickly, didn't even bother countering. The place was no where near as busy as it used to be, will be interesting to hear if it has improved.

Just came came back to the hotel. Didn't go crazy since I was tired from dealing with Jakarta's IMEI registration policy that I wasn't aware of. Scored out sariyu, starmoon, and royal. That night royal has the best direction of girls. Choose a waify beauty with nice hips and ass. Even though she looked very young age was in fact a mom. Sigh. After settling 400 k payment when up and ate her ass as long as she could bear it. A little dismayed that it was only CFS. Bright out the. 01 so it helped a little. I'm guessing komplek is basically CFS like classic.

I'm hoping to try to do the train tracks tomorrow early / mid afternoon. Of anyone could help out with a DM with googe map? Or a step by step directions. Thanks in advance.

[QUOTE=StinkyFeet;2775667] I'm guessing komplek is basically CFS like classic.[/QUOTE]I have never had to use a condom there and my sample rate is in the 100's.

After walking around for a few hours song central Jakarta to kill time, I decided to hunt for the train tracks. While walking towards the train tracks / highway. I noticed a gaggle of young hotties in front of me. While following them and accidentally catching the scent of feminine youth, the started to veer off into a rather unlit narrow walled path. Naturally I followed out of curiosity. A few minutes in, the party opened up to the train tracks. And I saw small shacks on either side. This was very interesting. As I wake along the side of the train tracks, I saw a few of them with disco lights. I peered in and a burly guy next to the door told me the entry way is on the other side around the small alleyway. I thanked him and walked through to reveal a most unexpected sight.

In terms of red light districts in Asia I thought I seen them all but this was truly an underground magical place. A third of the girls were very pretty. Most of them were young. I picked one gorgeous doll after walking back and fourth to decide since they were at least a hundred girls sitting.

This girl would command a premium in Japan but here she's at a bargain price and so so sweet. She has a few weird restrictions but she loved deep kissing which we did for the majority of the time.

Saw a a white dude in his forties with a shlt grin. The only white dude. Also noticed a few taiwanese old chaps as well. Wonder if it's an avid writer here.

I'm the huge guy sticking out like a sore thumb.

[QUOTE=StinkyFeet;2775848]After walking around for a few hours song central Jakarta to kill time, I decided to hunt for the train tracks. While walking towards the train tracks / highway. I noticed a gaggle of young hotties in front of me. While following them and accidentally catching the scent of feminine youth, the started to veer off into a rather unlit narrow walled path. Naturally I followed out of curiosity. A few minutes in, the party opened up to the train tracks. And I saw small shacks on either side. This was very interesting. As I wake along the side of the train tracks, I saw a few of them with disco lights. I peered in and a burly guy next to the door told me the entry way is on the other side around the small alleyway. I thanked him and walked through to reveal a most unexpected sight.

In terms of red light districts in Asia I thought I seen them all but this was truly an underground magical place. A third of the girls were very pretty. Most of them were young. I picked one gorgeous doll after walking back and fourth to decide since they were at least a hundred girls sitting.

This girl would command a premium in Japan but here she's at a bargain price and so so sweet. She has a few weird restrictions but she loved deep kissing which we did for the majority of the time.

Saw a a white dude in his forties with a shlt grin. The only white dude. Also noticed a few taiwanese old chaps as well. Wonder if it's an avid writer here.

I'm the huge guy sticking out like a sore thumb.[/QUOTE]Intrigued. Do say more. How do I get there? Can a newbie go or is it mostly for locals?