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[QUOTE=Franciscass;2153240]...I believe in Bangkok there a market for a high-end establishment charging a premium price for a premium product...[/QUOTE]Are you thinking about opening something better than The Lord MP? Go for it, you've got one customer, who will show up a couple of times a year.
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One could argue the price should be different if the service is not the same but again as long as you have the choice and prefer paying beauty with HJ or CBJ over poor looks and FS, its a choice.
There is a strong market for sexy university students giving massage in MPs with service usually limited to HJ, sometimes BJ and rarely FS.[/QUOTE]Any recommendations for places with sexy university students? HJ / BJ is fine; don't really need FS.
[QUOTE=Sinofaguo;2153626]The scene as you call it can be diverse.
Kapoos for HJs, BJ Bar for BJs, Gogo / KTV for FS takeaway, Saunas for FS, soapies being MP hybrids offering both HJ / BJ and FS for intermediate price and the usual call girls or street girls for whatever you negotiate.
Kapoos have been around for a very very long time and are not related to a "conservative revival".
-snip-[/QUOTE]Actually, I am only aware of one so-called "BJ Bar" where FS is not also on the menu; Bit Style. And maybe they are on board with that lately, too. I am not sure since I tried but could not get past their atrocious earlier environment to repeat after 2-3 times.
And I have gotten as many and often better blowjobs from go-go girls than I have gotten from most BJ Bargirls. I assume a go-go bargirl would provide a HJ but can't imagine why I would settle for that with a go-go girl (or any girl in Thailand for that matter). I am not a fan, but I am aware that many if not most soapies and MPs offer HJ, BJ and FS. Escorts, ditto. Freelancers, I don't know of anything routinely accepted as off the menu. Yes, I know there are individual girls in every type of venue who say no to BJ or no to FS and so on. I'm talking about the general rule.
So, as far as I know, the Kapoo option is the only recognized category of P4P service in Bangkok/Thailand where HJs are pretty much the only thing on the menu. Unless I missed one here.
[QUOTE=Lefeu;2153700]Are you thinking about opening something better than The Lord MP? Go for it, you've got one customer, who will show up a couple of times a year.[/QUOTE]I'm not a big fan of soapies. A thorough wash in bubbly suds followed by a body slide on an uncomfortable ribbed mattress is fine as a onetime been there done that experience but give me a laid back jacuzzi trip with an ice bucket and a vintage claret alongside anytime.
The lounge area and rooms would be in the style of a French bordello, lots of black stockings and lacy underwear with a super relaxed nonchalant atmosphere. However it would be staff selection and training and continuously maintaining these standards that distinguishes the place from the competition.
Admission should not be automatic and should reflect a certain clientele with a dress code which excludes loud bottom feeders.
[QUOTE=Sinofaguo;2153626]The scene as you call it can be diverse.
Kapoos for HJs, BJ Bar for BJs, Gogo / KTV for FS takeaway, Saunas for FS, soapies being MP hybrids offering both HJ / BJ and FS for intermediate price and the usual call girls or street girls for whatever you negotiate.
Kapoos have been around for a very very long time and are not related to a "conservative revival".
Some people on this forum seem to think the same Tulip, Mango, Cherry, Snow, Annies and Chrome and their clones on Sukumvit sois are representative from the MP scene in BKK as a whole.
They are not, its a very limited part of the scene, mostly farang oriented and there is much more to be experienced in BKK.
But I get your frustration, I have the same frustration you do when I go to a shop labbeled as providing erotic massage with HJ / BJ happy ending and instead I get a not so erotic massage and several requests of going FS because the girl wants a higher tip and spend less energy on the massage.
In the end its all about getting what you are being advertised for and getting what you are willingly paying for.[/QUOTE]I don't remember Kapoos when I moved here almost 19 years ago. Soapies were still going strong then, and while not PSE were certainly GFE. Never had a problem with DFK or BBBJ then. Performance, numbers, and talent has declined at soapies. And yes, I think Kapoo massage is all about a gal wanting to make decent Baht without ever considering herself a "prostitute. " Whereas 20 years ago she would have been doing it all; now she doesn't have to, which is a very different frame of reference for her. So again, the better looking the gal, the less she has to do.
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2153524] Boss is a bit more expensive but a far nicer experience overall. Gals are not PSE, but still quite fun [/QUOTE]Any specific no baby girl you could recommend? The only time I went the service was ok but the mamasan lied about the girl not having a baby.
[QUOTE=Franciscass;2153811]I'm not a big fan of soapies. A thorough wash in bubbly suds followed by a body slide on an uncomfortable ribbed mattress is fine as a onetime been there done that experience but give me a laid back jacuzzi trip with an ice bucket and a vintage claret alongside anytime.
The lounge area and rooms would be in the style of a French bordello, lots of black stockings and lacy underwear with a super relaxed nonchalant atmosphere. However it would be staff selection and training and continuously maintaining these standards that distinguishes the place from the competition.
Admission should not be automatic and should reflect a certain clientele with a dress code which excludes loud bottom feeders.[/QUOTE]Yes and some nice Jazz music in the background for conversation reasons. None that shit they play in CH and some of the other GoGo's. BTW there was an item on the news this morning that showed the most trusted names World wide. Rolex was number 1 with many other high end names to follow. I think this proves your point that quality and atmosphere will bring in the money.
RL.
[QUOTE=*****man;2154046]Any specific no baby girl you could recommend? The only time I went the service was ok but the mamasan lied about the girl not having a baby.[/QUOTE]Although a bit older, Pin is fun and no baby.
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2154205]Although a bit older, Pin is fun and no baby.[/QUOTE]Wow we are actually agreed, once more. Freaky! LOL No pornstar with me but definitely good fun. I don't know her age (somewhere between 30 and 40) but I reckon still in pretty good condition, and I guess no baby helped that. I would guess 32 to 35.
My GF is close to 40 and still in really hot excellent shape despite a baby (little visible effect and pussy still tight). So to me exact age is not very important.
She was perhaps too skinny at times in the past, but perfect for me now.
Some girls are in crap shape at 19. All that Khaow Niaow (sticky rice), noodles, slurpies, and junk in foil bags.
I have to wonder about some guys who can't get excited by a girl over 21. Seems a bit strange to be attracted to immaturity.
I take a pretty broad range of ages if girl is in good condition and reaches the legal minimum, but I prefer experienced girls, whether young or older.
My favourite working girls are 34,21, and 21 at the moment. The later two I have known since they were 18. They were experienced even then, I reckon. LOL.
[QUOTE=Sinofaguo;2153608][URL]http://www.cancam-massage.com/gals/[/URL] if you google translate the gals detailed services, most don't provide FS.
I don't call this lazy, they just offer whatever service they feel ok with to offer.
One could argue the price should be different if the service is not the same but again as long as you have the choice and prefer paying beauty with HJ or CBJ over poor looks and FS, its a choice.
There is a strong market for sexy university students giving massage in MPs with service usually limited to HJ, sometimes BJ and rarely FS.
Everyone sets their own boundaries. Having normal sexual life at home I'm just happy to have a very relaxing yet erotic happy ending massage.
[/QUOTE]I have been to Can Cam quite a few times and previously reported on those girls. Had sex with all of them as far as can remember. Not one told me no sex and I do speak Thai. So I have to take the 2/3 with a grain of salt. One or two were real bad though so one could equate very bad with "virtually no sex". I will check out the web site translated. I have had sex with May 2 to 3 times I think (if same one), but web indicates she does FS. I like the look of Soda, so will be interesting to see if she really refuses sex. I wonder if this is a trick to request extra tip for sex. Will see in the future.
I find it strange that girls are into 69 but no sex. I have never experienced that before in Thailand. I was never a customer of any shop where sex was forbidden since Chawala 1 and 2, 27 years ago. LOL Even then, a lot of oral and fingering was going on.
For sure I want beauties, they don't have to be Uni Students, real or fake. I did have a very pretty Uni girl a few times who was working a bar occasionally when studies permitted. Coincidence. I was not looking for Uni girls.
I will happily take a 29 YO beauty. However lack of beauties is major reason I have had so few MP visits lately. So I guess I have to try Kapoo clubs providing I get to choose a girl without nose job, and not for a HJ. That would be a waste of money for me.
I would never pay for HJ myself, just my preference. I much prefer a soft BBBJ. I am sure President Bill would not regard either as sex, but I don't agree. I love fingering girls gently, so that is definitely "cheating" already. Fortunately my GF is not too concerned about me playing up. She has noticed a big drop off in me being absent, partly because I am getting better at home (but still not quite enough to make me totally faithful).
I go for just a BJ only really out of desperation or lack of time. When I used to go to BJ shop regularly, I almost always took Full Sex.
Pay the money, and are playing up. May as well take the full service is my attitude. I am very pussy oriented, obviously.
[QUOTE=RobertLong;2154103]Yes and some nice Jazz music in the background for conversation reasons. None that shit they play in CH and some of the other GoGo's. BTW there was an item on the news this morning that showed the most trusted names World wide. Rolex was number 1 with many other high end names to follow. I think this proves your point that quality and atmosphere will bring in the money.
RL.[/QUOTE]Playlist: Miles Davis, Chet baker, Etta James, Billy Holiday, Charlie Parker, Leonard Cohen, John Coltrane, Aretha Franklin, Tom Waits, Van the Man, Nina Simone, Amy Winehouse and Ole Blue eyes singing Angle Eyes. Please feel area to expand on.
[QUOTE=Opp44;2153779]Any recommendations for places with sexy university students? HJ / BJ is fine; don't really need FS.[/QUOTE]In those joints, You might need to pay extra if you ask those "students" to take their tops off.
[QUOTE=Opp44;2153779]Any recommendations for places with sexy university students? HJ / BJ is fine; don't really need FS.[/QUOTE]Addict has a couple of students. Mali is a good one.
[QUOTE=Franciscass;2154568]Playlist: Miles Davis, Chet baker, Etta James, Billy Holiday, Charlie Parker, Leonard Cohen, John Coltrane, Aretha Franklin, Tom Waits, Van the Man, Nina Simone, Amy Winehouse and Ole Blue eyes singing Angle Eyes. Please feel area to expand on.[/QUOTE]Make that Ole Blue Eyes singing Angel Eyes.
Fellow hobbyists,
I have RTFF and I still want to make a quick poll here.
Can you please make a list of your favorite MP girls for outcall. I always bring the ladies back to my hotel.
I used to have quite a few regulars but they have quit turning tricks and I am looking to build a new list of regulars. In my last visit to BKK I tried My from SW. She was ok but won't make the cut to become a regular. I also met with a regular who is quite tall and not skinny. She is not fat either. She has a flexible body and take it up her ass. Happy to share her with fellow mongers who are sharing regulars on PM.
I am heading out to BKK sometime in the summer.
/ Kirsia.