Sosua Reports

[QUOTE=Bravo; 1436393]Thanks DeepMmpactt, your experiences have taught me an important lesson. Since Ana was in your hotel room, I understand your decision to just pay, so there would be no drama.

In the future if I take a chick that I am not too sure about, I will go to a short time hotel for our first session. That way if she is terrible or if some drama starts, I can just place 1000 peso note on the table and walk out. Situation over with, no more arguing.[/QUOTE]As long as a guy can leave without being detained that seems feasible. A cabana however may present a problem. The staff usually inspect the room before they allow you to leave. It's going to be harder for a guy to plop down dinero of what he thinks is fair on the table and just walk / drive out. If there is drama or a dispute inside the room it's likely going to continue outside, with the possibility of the cops being called. The ST hotel where you can leave undetained or undelayed seems workable.

[QUOTE=SavePros321; 1436493]And 3000RD per hour? Speaks perfect English? I'm thinking you were dealing with one of those chicas that has spent some time in the US and got her ass deported back to the DR. That's the story of a lot of the (older) male hustlers that hang around Sosua (and speak perfect English).[/QUOTE]I happen to know the girl he was talking about. She was being supported by an American for a long time. She has a very nice apartment out in POP. He bought her the SUV, sent her to school to learn English and sent her money every month to keep her out of Classicos. It was all good for the first year or so until he told her "That he would keep supporting her and that she was his number 1 girl. However, he would fuck other hoes on his vacation when he went to Sosua!" He basically gave her an ultimatum, deal with it or kick rocks. She decided she was too young and attractive to have to deal with other hoes laughing at her behind her back, so she turned the deal down. Now she is in DLatins 6 nights a week.

She pulls up in the SUV, has the fancy clothes, LV purse and speaks excellent English, but its all an act. She is broke and needs to make pesos just like all the other girls in the club. LOL!

[quote=savepros321; 1436493]the fact that this happened to a sosua vet leads me to believe that this is going on far more than is being reported.

say what you want folks, but take a look at all the trip reports pre-december 2010 and you will not read anything like this ever happening to anyone. then read the trip reports post-dec 2010 and then come back here and try to tell me there is no "old sosua" vs "new sosua", lol![/quote]if it is happening, it is happening because the breed of monger has changed, and sosua has adapted.

five years ago, the ratio of suckers to sensible mongers was lower, because while most of us are suckers on our first (and maybe second) trips, we learn, sometimes the hard way. in those days a higher proportion of visiting mongers were on repeat trips. now all sorts of dumbasses with money to burn are being attracted by the various who reboards and online videos.

anyone who goes with a chica who asks 3000 pesos and drives a suv must realise that he is not calling the shots because she doesn't need his money. i am not saying it cannot work, but you are flying on a wing and a prayer. find some pretty young haitiana for 1000 or 1500 and she will likely be grateful and very unlikely to make waves because she desperately needs the money and is probably an illegal immigrant.

there are more wh oreboards with far more posts nowadays, so a lot more unpleasant incidents get reported. because i live here i also hear lots of stuff on the grapevine. i have yet to hear of anyone get into trouble or scammed who wasn't 50% to 100% responsible. drunk, poor choice of chica, ignoring "red flags" as marc anthony puts it, arrogant ot racist attitude, etc, etc.

of course, not every encounter is a winner. maybe 20% or more are disappointing. but you just factor those in to your average costs and the north coast still represents excellent value.

Even though many believe the monger has the power because he has the cash. IMO the p4p arrangement between monger and chica puts the monger in a bad position to begin with. Yeah he has the money. But there are no guarantees he is going to get what he thinks he is paying for. He has no protections in place. He can't call the cops, like the chicas do. He can't sue her for mal performance. If a dude gets away with not paying a chica (or paying her less) for poor performance without retribution from the chica. He got lucky. He aint special.

We know Deep could have kicked this girls ass from here to Puerto Plata. But why would he give into her demands? Because he knows better. In the DR he is likely going to get the short end on any dispute with a chica. These chicas arent girls scouts (or chica scouts ). They thrive and survive more on deception, ignorance and inebriation of the monger moreso than on integrity. Our attempts to protect ourselves by so-called negotiation prior to sex is really a joke. Being a vet is no consolation. Vets make mistakes too. These arent necessarily lessons learned. They are merely wakeup calls. The mistakes will continue, because of the bad position the monger is in. These chicas don't give a shit about any agreement or what they said before. They said whatever they needed to say to get you to take them. And in some instances, even try to get more money above and beyond the original agreement. Also, how many times has it happened where you thought you wanted a chica to do toda la noche, and she ended up leaving before her "agreed" time? Too often. Lying is their survival mechanism, plain and simple. The lies are plentiful and infinite. Always think they are lying 1st, and make them earn your belief. ( belief , not trust. )

Classics : "I had root canal, so I can't suck your dick" "I will be back in 2 days, I'm going to Samana to visit family, and there is no signal in the campo, so you won't be able to reach me, and I can't call you" LOL

Deep was not scammed. The girl attempted to fuck him but had issues. She quoted 2800 pesos for st and Deep agreed to the price. She was naked in his bed legs spread. The fact that Deep was not able to penetrate was not her problem. She presented the pussy. I still believe we mongers have the power. The girls know if they get a bad rep they are screwed. It is a buyers market. Way more girlys then guys. Most girls can not get a customer. They are desparate for our dollars. IMO most girls are honest. They know we are using them to get our rocks off.

[QUOTE=Bravo; 1436594]I happen to know the girl he was talking about. She was being supported by an American for a long time. She has a very nice apartment out in POP. He bought her the SUV, sent her to school to learn English and sent her money every month to keep her out of Classicos. It was all good for the first year or so until he told her "That he would keep supporting her and that she was his number 1 girl. However, he would fuck other hoes on his vacation when he went to Sosua!" He basically gave her an ultimatum, deal with it or kick rocks. She decided she was too young and attractive to have to deal with other hoes laughing at her behind her back, so she turned the deal down. Now she is in DLatins 6 nights a week.

She pulls up in the SUV, has the fancy clothes, LV purse and speaks excellent English, but its all an act. She is broke and needs to make pesos just like all the other girls in the club. LOL![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=OldKool;1436604]Deep was not scammed. The girl attempted to fuck him but had issues. She quoted 2800 pesos for st and Deep agreed to the price. She was naked in his bed legs spread. The fact that Deep was not able to penetrate was not her problem. She presented the pussy. I still believe we mongers have the power. The girls know if they get a bad rep they are screwed. It is a buyers market. Way more girlys then guys. Most girls can not get a customer. They are desparate for our dollars. IMO most girls are honest. They know we are using them to get our rocks off.[/QUOTE]OK. I wouldn't necessarily say Deep was scammed, but I do think he was hustled. If that chica was not able to satisfy her customer, she does not deserve full payment. If she wants to play professional, then the onus is on her to make sure she is capable of fulfilling her end of the agreement. She failed to fulfill her end of the agreement and therefore does not deserve to be paid in full as if she completed the job. The chica said it was not her fault that he was so big. Well my counter to that is. It's not his fault that she was so small. He was ready, she wasnt. It's not like he couldn't perform because he was limp. If that happened, then the problem is his. But that doesn't mean the chica is exempt from satisfying her customer in other ways. But this is why I say the monger is at a disadvantage in this game. Because he can't guarantee or ensure he will get what he thinks he's paying for.

She knows her pussy better than he does. So she should have warned him that she can't take a big dick. But that aint going to happen, because like I said earlier. They are going to say and do whatever it takes to get you to take them. And deal with the issue later.

As my deceased elderly neighbor used to say."A paid job, is a finished job". I guess that principle only works in the states under ordinary business transactions?

You are exactly right Wrx. Like I have said before you can be an expert monger and have your system down to a T. But every now and then something is going to go wrong. You can handle it the easy way by just paying and givong in to het demands or you can be like me and take the riskier road and argue and attempt to not give in. Monger's choice.

Deep acted like a rooky. He grabbed a girl because she looked good. He did not take time to talk to her. Had he told her what he wanted up front he would have a better case. I know I am well endowed so I bring lube. We are the ones who choose not the girls. Most girls want to come back if you are a decent guy. So going to a room and fucking a guy is no big deal. Like the guy said when sh t hits the fan it is because we screwed up most of the time. Deep is a good guy but he broke the basic rules Like yo.

You I would not have paid the 3k. I would have paid for time may be a 1k but I am not paying 2800 st no way.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1436614]You are exactly right Wrx. Like I have said before you can be an expert monger and have your system down to a T. But every now and then something is going to go wrong. You can handle it the easy way by just paying and givong in to het demands or you can be like me and take the riskier road and argue and attempt to not give in. Monger's choice.[/QUOTE]

I read some old posts from 2005. I have to say very little has changed. The price of pussy has stayed stable. The girls seem to have been a little more mellow The girls made an effort to wife up. It is clear that because guys no longer seek the GFE the girl mod has changed. When a girl thinks you want to spend time with her she brings her best game. It as a win win back in the day. The girls got a couple of days pay with same guy. In return they made love to you like a novia. The girls know most g For me getting good GFE is the way to go. Even a hard core puta if she wants can make you feel like a king. Lastly the guys got better deals buy wifing the girls up.

[QUOTE=OldKool;1436630]I read some old posts from 2005. I have to say very little has changed. The price of pussy has stayed stable. The girls seem to have been a little more mellow The girls made an effort to wife up. It is clear that because guys no longer seek the GFE the girl mod has changed. When a girl thinks you want to spend time with her she brings her best game. It as a win win back in the day. The girls got a couple of days pay with same guy. In return they made love to you like a novia. The girls know most g For me getting good GFE is the way to go. Even a hard core puta if she wants can make you feel like a king. Lastly the guys got better deals buy wifing the girls up.[/QUOTE]Lmao, first you say very little has changed then you go on to list how many things have changed. Then you say the only thing that has basically stayed the same is pricing. The loss of GFE ushered in the new sport fucking era that currently exists, agreed. Gogo has been saying this for years as it was happening, but the Flintstones are finally catching up with the Jetsons.

[quote]=Bravo; 1436594]I happen to know the girl he was talking about. She was being supported by an American for a long time. She has a very nice apartment out in POP. He bought her the SUV, sent her to school to learn English and sent her money every month to keep her out of Classicos. It was all good for the first year or so until he told her "That he would keep supporting her and that she was his number 1 girl. However, he would fuck other hoes on his vacation when he went to Sosua!" He basically gave her an ultimatum, deal with it or kick rocks. She decided she was too young and attractive to have to deal with other hoes laughing at her behind her back, so she turned the deal down. Now she is in DLatins 6 nights a week.[/quote]Wow Bravo. Thanks!

I was thinking about telling a few of my GF take it or kick rocks. So that is how / what a sexy Chica could be thinking. A chica's pride ever hit me. Specially when you consider yourself better than the rest. I guess I will continue to play chess with them.

In 3 in 2 in 1 Live and back burning up the airwaves with "one million watts of savage power" (cue the music) I would do anything for love" but I won't do that" (Meatloaf) okay I thourghly enjoyed Grownman 1 reports, keep them coming my brother, Savepro you are absolutely right, the trend is changing with these stunts being pulled more and more frequently. I want to thank all the mongers both newbies and veterans, for chiming in on my Sosua adventures. You guys have been quite merciful, I expected a "all out firing squad" First of all, I pride myself of giving "highlight-low lights or no-lights at all. Oldkool was 100% accurrate, Ana was respectful the whole way, (the dental problems fraud) kind of caught me off guard. Ana presented the pussy, I ate the "freshly showered pussy" and if you recall I turned down her 3, 000 pesos price tag. 6 months ago. I had opportunity to "keep on stepping" but my stupid ass, chose to pursue Ana" If you guys recall "I ditched my beautiful novia, to sneak out, with Ana on a coward ass move". So the same thing that makes you laugh makes you "cry" I do want to "caution" mongers that "bad tooth or toothache story reared it's ugly head 2 more times after that. Beware of that bullshit, and ask your prospect if she's feeling well or How's her teeth doing any problems? Plus recommend a "good dentist" LOL! Say aahhhhh! Lmao! We at ISG pride ourselves on telling it "all" I hope through my stupid sense of humor, someone else avoid certain pitfalls".

Honestly Ana the "whole time" never disrespected or caught attitude, she informed me of the price prior to me going in. My stupid ass had 6 months to mould it over, and I had already, set in my mind to pay that ridiculously outrageous price. I considered it like going to a "fancy restaurant" going in I knew fully well How expensive the prices where, I reasoned its not like I was going to that restaurant "everyday" I was going to just splurge that one single instance. Ana even "what's app" me they other day thanking me " yeah for nothing" I might as well hand her 3, 000 pesos and kiss her hand, It wouldn't been any different. LOL! (kidding) Call me crazy but I ain't mad at her in retrospect. And now we will take questions from our live studio audience.

Q). I just want to know do you feel like a dumbass? A.) Yes! I'm a dumbass, ISG members preach time and time again, Don't pay these inflated prices it drives the market up. And they were right! Next question Q.) Do you think all chicas are scammers? A.) I wouldn't say all but once a dumbass like me, give in to these methods, even good girls that normally wouldn't scam, will try and see if it works. I. E My baby is sick, my mom is in the hospital, I don't have anything to eat (now I have a tooth ache) that was a new one. Blah blah blah. I have had these regurgitated excuses for money from hardcore putaz to everyday good girls words spread fast on what us mongers are falling for" Q.) In retrospect what would you've done different A.) Boldly told the chica your price is to "high" and you will never pay that ridiculous high ass price, further more once my stupid ass got painted in that idiots corner, of paying to much. It's hard to get off the ropes" but you boy Deep, started the Muhammad Ali "Rope a dope" I shuffled my feet back and forth like lightning, put on my "Magnum Xls condoms, then I began floating like a butterfly then sting like a bee"! LOL! I am the "greatest monger off all time) in my best Muhammad's Alis voice.

In other news my friend the next morning was feelings pretty bad (realization of being $15, 000 Us) poorer! At least the Ng had "free" breakfast that should ease the pain" yeah right. LOL! He wanted to talk to me, in private, It's funny I have the biggest sense of humor than most people too often I am the butt of most jokes, and I laugh with them, (most of the time) What's ironic is when a situation turns "seriously sideways" My friends seek me out for advice on what to do next? All jokes aside and now they fully expect me to "whip out my magic wand" and fix this" or have the magic answer" Q.) Do you regret reporting your Ana expierience on ISG? A.) Hell no! If me being a hard headed ******* can prevent some newbie or veteran from being an idiot, then it was success!

Man overall this was a great trip, what was troubling my gambling friend wanted me to accompany him back to the casino, talk to management (get this) tell the management He did his homework on the internet and concluded that roulette game was a scam, and now (calmly he would asked for his money back) really? Oh I can see that going over "real well" ahh Mr Manager sir your games a fraud and I change my mind I want all my dough back. Lmao! Sure I'll give ALL your money back". Oh okay, I told my friend let's save the embarrisment of that walk of shame" and I'm sorry I couldn't support something so ridicoulous, my friend know exactly what he was doing, the management walked him several times, back and forth, he couldve stopped at anytime, plus my friend said he was willing to lose $50, 000 Us (thank goodness he quit at $15, 000) to try and win a half a million dollars. Wow! Okay my ISG "knuckleheads" We went to Mels tours in Sosua, to rent Atvs in Pop, so grab your remotes and please change the chanell to Pop section, Deep Tv, is now digital and in Hi-Def and we are taking this "show on the road" next stop Pop section! See you over there.

[QUOTE=OldKool;1436621]He did not take time to talk to her. Had he told her what he wanted up front he would have a better case.[/QUOTE]O K, not exactly sure what you mean by he would have a better case had he talked to her 1st and told her what he wanted up front? Do you mean a better case in regards to the scrutiny he might get from the fellas or fellow mongers?

However, even if he did tell the chica what he wanted up front, that doesn't mean she was going to give him what he wanted and how he wanted it. Example : "Hey girl, I want to have sex with you for $2800 pesos." "I want the pussy to be good and wet too." "I want multiple positions with you." "If I can't come with your pussy, I want you to suck me until I come." "Okay papi, lets go" Now, suppose Deep told her all of that? What difference would that make to the chica? Performance and quality is subjective. And that is the principle the chicas thrive on, even if they don't know it. As far as she's concerned her pussy is good. What she decides to do in the room can easily change from what he told her he wanted. Like sucking his dick unenthusiastically, causing him to say never mind. Thats probably happened to most of us. And the chica usually gets paid what was agreed. A monger simply can't account for a chicas quality / performance no matter what he tells her he wants. He can even pay her more money and still that won't guarantee the quality of her services will satisfy. I think the main issue in Deeps case is, he paid the chica too much dinero who he had not been with before. He did not know what kind of performer/quality she was. Maybe he was impressed by her presentation and her driving that vehicle, and felt she was worth the $2800??? Thats what make up, clothes and high heels is doing to most of us. Tricking us to believe these chicas are stunning. I have seen many a classico chica in the morning leave a guys hotel looking like shit. But that night, she was the baddest thing in the club. Dont be fooled by the masquerade fellas. Thats an ordinary chick underneath the facade.

I've never been one to choose a girl on flair. An empty wagon makes the most noise. When I bring a chick back and she goes to take a shower and comes back with makeup still on I send her back in to wash it off. You are here for fucking, not to join the circus. A buddy of mine's wife is a famous porn star from the 80s and early 90s, but if you saw her without that makeup and hair then you would run the other way. If I saw the chick come up in a nice ride styling like that then I would have offered her even less. I would have told her it looks like she already has plenty of money so mine couldn't do shit for her.

This hobby is very subjective. Whereas most guys go crazy over head, to me bomb head is a rarity so I can usually just skip that. I'm a critic, where others are just happy to have their pecker in some chick's mouth so on that alone it is good to them. If we need to use KY from the start then there is nothing good about that pussy to me. I need a big juicy one, not a dry tight one.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1436670]A buddy of mine's wife is a famous porn star from the 80s and early 90s, but if you saw her without that makeup and hair then you would run the other wa.[/QUOTE]Vanessa Del Rio?