American Politics

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2965166]Normally, a pardon like this would throw me into a long and pointless rant, but after Trump publicly announced his intention to go after his enemies, I don't think Biden had a choice. Anyone would do the same.[/QUOTE]Explain to me why Trump would go after a demented Joe Biden.

As for Hunter, only a Democratic douche would believe that he has been rehabbed. You mean you believed that bullshit about the Secret Service not knowing whose cocaine was in the White House? LOL.

Yep, it is all smooth sailing for Hunter now. No way he is going to back to fucking underage women, snorting cocaine, lying his ass off, taking bribes, or fucking around with guns. He has a great job now as a legitimate artist. Man, the stupid shit you dumb Democratic douches believe amazes me.

Seriously, can we even call it as "big" as a Pink Tinkle this time?

[B]Single House race stands between Republicans and 1-seat majority.[/B]

[URL]https://www.yahoo.com/news/single-house-race-stands-between-184601872.html[/URL]

[QUOTE]House Republicans could begin the new year grappling with a one-seat majority, a perilously slim margin for the 119th Congress as President-elect Donald Trump guns for an active first 100 days.[/QUOTE]Meanwhile, the lazy AP Vote Tracker apparently just gave up days ago and left it at their misleading and outright inaccurate "rounding up" to 50.0% in the vote count for Trump while the Cook Political Report Vote Tracker has at least bothered to continue counting and now has Trump at even LESS of a Plurality today than he had 2-3 days ago, at 49.82% (See screenshot below).

[URL]https://www.cookpolitical.com/vote-tracker/2024/electoral-college[/URL]

Which, when the final count in the only three states that mattered and decided the winner is in, will likely show a shift of LESS than 0. 09 point of the total vote, that relative handful of angry, Netanyahu-hating Muslims who "gave Trump the presidency" but who now realize that was a really dumb thing to do, are the sole force behind and reason for Trump and his Repubs' self-proclaimed "landslide" and "mandate."

So, to recap: At this point the Repubs did indeed get the 3 Senate seat advantage that just about everyone predicted would happen in this particularly Repub-advantaged Senate race year, while the Trump vs Harris and Repub vs Dem House Majority races came down to a coin-flip that looks closer to a coin landing on its edge than any time in many decades.

And it is definitely the tightest squeaker for a 2nd term presidential election run as far back as accurate records are kept for such things.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2965295]He has a great job now as a legitimate artist. [/QUOTE]Don't be so naive Elvis. Do you really think people are going to pay six figures for a Hunter original when his father's not President of the United States?

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2965295]Explain to me why Trump would go after a demented Joe Biden.

[/QUOTE]Oh Elvis, where do I even begin! Maybe Trump lovers shouldn't call other people "demented". That's laughable.

OK, OK, I already digress, my apologies.

Here's the explanation you requested.

1. Because Trump HIMSELF SAYS that he intends to put his enemies to prison. Or do you mean that because TRUMP hasn't mentioned Hunter by name, he must be safe?

2. Because Trump is the most thin-skinned elderly man-child in the Universe.

3. Because his attempts to dig dirt on Hunter date to his first WH occupancy. That's not just politicking--it's obsession.

4. Because he's picked a devout loyalist to head his DOJ. He wouldn't even have to bark jump, she knows what the master wants.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2965295]As for Hunter, only a Democratic douche would believe that he has been rehabbed. You mean you believed that bullshit about the Secret Service not knowing whose cocaine was in the White House? LOL.

Yep, it is all smooth sailing for Hunter now. No way he is going to back to fucking underage women, snorting cocaine, lying his ass off, taking bribes, or fucking around with guns. He has a great job now as a legitimate artist. Man, the stupid shit you dumb Democratic douches believe amazes me.[/QUOTE]I have no idea if Hunter can kick his habit or not. I further have no idea what Secret Service knew or didn't know about cocaine at the WH.

Furthermore, your "underage girls fucking" claim is libelous. There is no proof or evidence that ever happened, and the origins of this libel lead to QAnon and now defunct Infowars.

[URL]https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/oct/20/facebook-posts/fact-checking-unproven-claims-about-hunter-biden-a[/URL]

What I do know is that Trump attempted to make an alleged human trafficker and statutory rapist the United States Attorney General. So where is your indignation at Matt Gaetz and your LAS? And doesn't your lack of said indignation--especially combined with your vitriol toward Hunter Biden--make you a clear-cut hypocrite?

Biden was completely within his right to protect his son from vicious and personally motivated prosecution. Like I said, Trump changes everything. Although I blame his brainless followers more.

[QUOTE=Tiny12;2964948]I have never modified anyone's quote except to (1) shorten it, (2) insert my comment or "sic" in parentheses, and (3) substitute asterisks for words that are vulgar or describe behavior better not discussed on this board. If you can find any other type of modification I've made, please post it.

With regard to "2", I would use brackets instead of parentheses, but the system doesn't allow it.

"Very fraudulent and very disturbing"? You take this way too seriously.[/QUOTE][I][b](...kkkk!)[/b][/I] For all your fake bluster, we all know, this is not the first, second or third time you've committed this infraction, and no doubt probably, won't be the last time you'll commit such acts.

Fortunately (or unfortunately), admin stepped in and removed those infractions.

[QUOTE=Elvis 2008;2965075]Greenberg did way more than the sexual charge.[/QUOTE]

[i][b](...kkkk!)[/b][/i] Yes, Greenberg did way more shit and I'm surprise he didn't get more years in jail, but hey, what the hell do you expect, from a corrupt, soft on sexual misconduct crimes, from a partisan Repub Florida AG and DA office, that hands out pitiful plea deals and a "slap on the wrist", to pedos and sex traffickers like Matt Gaetz and Jeffery Epstein.

[b]Woman testified that she saw Matt Gaetz having sex with 17-year-old, attorney says [/b]
[url]https://whyy.org/articles/matt-gaetz-sex-17-year-old-allegations/[/url]

Let's face it, Greenburg fell on the grenade and turned out to be a great fall guy, and it was most lucky for Gaetz. Having committed the same sexual misconduct crime as Greenburg, with the same 17 yr old girl, still has the potential to see justice, if an uncorrupted Florida AG or DA, decides to lay charges, this time, and go after Gaetz. And I look forward to seeing Gaetz defend himself the same way Greenburg did, with similar incarceration results, no doubt.

[b]Matt Gaetz controversy: What to know about sexual misconduct allegations as he withdraws...[/b]
[url]https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/matt-gaetz-investigation-trump-report-b2650653.html[/url]

History will forever show, disgraced Matt Gaetz's exit as a pedo, right up there, with the shame, the likes of Roy Moore. But like I said, give it time, I'm sure he'll be back running for Repubs for office. As it seems, Repubs committing sexual misconduct, no matter how egregious, is now apparently more of a qualification than a disqualification. [i][b](...kkkk!)[/b][/i]

But sure enough, the infamy of Gaetz, will live on with his morally challenged, MAGA Tiny 12 and Elvis 2008, defenders and sympathizers.

[QUOTE=Tiny12;2965374]Don't be so naive Elvis. Do you really think people are going to pay six figures for a Hunter original when his father's not President of the United States?[/QUOTE]Tiny, I was being sarcastic. Hunter has one buyer for most of his art work. During the trial, the prosecution tried to call as a witness the buyer. Are you ready for the funny part? The CIA would not let the prosecution do that. So in essence, the CIA was buying Hunter's art work. That is how bad the swamp is. Hunter no longer had to take bribes from Ukraine and China. He could take them from the CIA.

Of course, that is now gone.

Joe Biden probably carved himself out a $100 or 200 million dollar golden parachute for stepping down, so he no longer needs Hunter or rather Jill no longer needs Hunter to take bribes for Joe.

The funny part about Xpartan's post is that he thinks Trump is going to go after Hunter like Hunter is clean now. If that mother fucker Hunter is not in jail in five years, I would be shocked, Trump or no Trump. He is a psychopath, a deviant, and an addict who was used and abused by his father. It is actually kind of sad. I probably would have ended up just like Hunter if Joe Biden were my father.

[QUOTE=Spidy;2965393][i][b](...kkkk!)[/b][/i] Yes, Greenberg did way more shit and I'm surprise he didn't get more years in jail, but hey, what the hell, do you expect from a corrupt, soft on sexual misconduct crimes, from a partisan Repub Florida AG and DA office.

Let's face it, Greenburg fell on the grenade and turned out to be a great fall guy, and it was most lucky for Gaetz. Having committed the same sexual misconduct crime as Greenburg, with the same 17 yr old girl, still has the potential to see justice, if an uncorrupted Florida AG or DA, decides to lay charges, this time, and go after Gaetz.[/QUOTE]And the lies continue. [URL]https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2024/11/getting_to_the_bottom_of_matt_gaetz_s_nomination_and_withdrawal.html[/URL].

Greenberg told Barr's DOJ he could implicate Gaetz in exchange for leniency, and the present investigation into Gaetz was opened.

Gaetz's father Don was then approached by "former" DOJ attorneys and told they could make his problems go away if he gave $25 million to fund the rescue of American hostage Bob Levinson from Iran. Bob Kent would lead the rescue mission, and the payment would appear to be for a service, rather than a bribe to prosecutors.

Russian oligarch Oleg Deripaska was targeted with the same scheme, down to the dollar, according to Gaetz, and he wasn't the first. Newsweek suggests that the Levinson ransoms had become a running joke at the FBI.

The drift of it is that there's a history of Gaetz sending money to women he had relationships with, some or all of the time through Greenberg, some or all of whom were introduced to him by Greenberg. Gaetz transferred funds to two of them using Venmo when he was single, and one said she saw him with a minor.

Venmo transaction records with the two adult women are shown, and the low-attention-span reader is led to believe that this shows Gaetz paying (and sleeping with) the minor, since one of them talked about a minor.

They say they were hooking, Gaetz says they were his girlfriends, and there's nothing in the memos to indicate who's telling the truth (nor would Greenberg's pictures and videos). Gaetz's money being sent to the same women repeatedly over time suggests a long-term relationship, but the women say they were prostitutes.

Apparently there were four more women interviewed, and one of them claims she and Gaetz had relations when she was a minor. But she "reportedly" represented herself as an adult to Greenberg (on a website), who then introduced her to Gaetz.

The woman on the Venmo records who claimed she saw Gaetz with a minor also said he didn't know it and that when he found out, he stopped until she turned 18. What I'the like to know, if it isn't all completely made up, is whether she's the same girl Greenberg made a government-quality fake ID for. He told the court he made one for a 17-year-old Gaetz slept with. Did they use it to fool Gaetz into sleeping with a minor? Because that's how it sounds.

Greenberg fabricated state IDs for numerous "young women," but we're not told how young or for what purpose. Why did he hold thousands of self-incriminating records for years after? Was he running an entrapment operation?

Brownstoning is where you have the traditional honeypot, you may have a Congressman enticed to sleep with a female. What they do then is to try and get you in bed with an underage girl, telling you she's only 20. And then they videotape that, then you are theirs.

End of link. And now you have a pretty good reason why Trump won. The deep state owns the Bidens and with their honey pot scams and working deals with scum bags like Greenberg who try to entrap members of Congress, the deep state owns Congress as well. The American people now have no one who represents their interests, and the only person with the balls to take on the deep state has been Donald Trump.

Only a Democratic douche like yourself could equate Gaetz with Greenberg and think the DOJ was pure as the driven snow. If you are in this hobby and do not have sympathy for Gaetz, you are a fucking hypocrite.

[QUOTE=Spidy;2965386][I][b](...kkkk!)[/b][/I] For all your fake bluster, we all know, this is not the first, second or third time you've committed this infraction, and no doubt probably, won't be the last time you'll commit such acts.

Fortunately (or unfortunately), admin stepped in and removed those infractions.[/QUOTE]LOL. The Administrator removed them so you can't find them.

I suggested to the Administrator that he or she delete the post where I inserted my comment in parentheses into your quote, as you requested. But not for the reason you cited. Rather the topic of conversation violated or was on the edge of violating the forum rule prohibiting discussion of sex with m*****. You may wish to familiarize yourself with that, as you seem intent on returning to the topic.

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/custompages.php?pageid=ForumRules[/URL]

Both of our posts were deleted, not just mine.

PVMonger and I also had a couple of posts deleted, for reasons I don't remember. Also a comment I made in a Bangkok report years ago about the size of my penis was deleted because I made a reference which I thought was very complementary to a certain group of people. The administrator however apparently didn't agree.

Those are the only instances I remember of my posts being deleted or modified.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2965166]Normally, a pardon like this would throw me into a long and pointless rant, but after Trump publicly announced his intention to go after his enemies, I don't think Biden had a choice. Anyone would do the same.[/QUOTE]He literally said he would consider pardoning biden. He didn't threaten biden other than call for an investigation on him. Which of you're innocent, that's not a serious threat. I bet your tone would be totally different if trump gave donald Jr immunity for anything that went on with the trump organization. But rant on.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2965351]And it is definitely the tightest squeaker for a 2nd term presidential election run as far back as accurate records are kept for such things.[/QUOTE]George W. Bush (1st term), Bill Clinton (1st and 2nd terms), Richard Nixon (1st term) and JFK got a smaller % of the popular vote than Trump in 2024. And Biden, George W. Bush (1st and 2nd terms), Jimmy Carter, Nixon (1st term) and Kennedy got fewer electoral votes. Trump of course got both a smaller % of the popular vote and fewer electoral votes in 2024 than 2016.

Kennedy / Nixon and Bush / Gore were tight squeakers, although admittedly neither was a 2nd term election. Trump / Harris was not. Trump won by 86 electoral votes and 2. 3 million popular votes.

[QUOTE=Tiny12;2965412]George W. Bush (1st term), Bill Clinton (1st and 2nd terms), Richard Nixon (1st term) and JFK got a smaller % of the popular vote than Trump in 2024. And Biden, George W. Bush (1st and 2nd terms), Jimmy Carter, Nixon (1st term) and Kennedy got fewer electoral votes. Trump of course got both a smaller % of the popular vote and fewer electoral votes in 2024 than 2016.

Kennedy / Nixon and Bush / Gore were tight squeakers, although admittedly neither was a 2nd term election. Trump / Harris was not. Trump won by 86 electoral votes and 2. 3 million popular votes.[/QUOTE]What was the percentage point gap in the states that put those 2nd term presidential runs at or over 270? If a shift of significantly LESS than 0. 09 point of the total votes, factoring in the shift in those states, where we are with Trump now, would have flipped the outcome, then, yeah they were more of a 2nd term squeaker win than Trump's 2nd term contest won in 2024.

I'll let you do the research and math on that. But this time it would be helpful if you at least included a link, a screenshot, showing your math, something, anything rather than just, you know, saying it.

Either way, I am impressed that Trump is at least enough of an effective con man that he has convinced anyone that both of his contests combined that netted hundreds of thousands fewer votes than his opposition were "landslides" and "mandates. ".

This one behavior alone should be enough to eliminate drug addict Hegseth as a nominee for any responsible position in any line of work:

[B]Drunken Trump nominee caught on stage with strippers.[/B]

[URL]https://www.nj.com/politics/2024/12/drunken-trump-nominee-caught-on-stage-with-strippers.html[/URL]

[QUOTE]President-elect Donald Trumps pick to lead the Department of Defense reportedly had to step down from a pair of nonprofit veterans groups he headed after workers filed allegations of mismanagement and sexual misconduct.

The New Yorker reports Pete Hegseth was forced out of Concerned Veterans for America, which he worked as president of from 2013 until 2016, after a whistle-blower report that includes an anecdote of him being held back from trying to dance on a stage with strippers.[/QUOTE]Most men, heterosexual men that is, on sites like this hate these assholes who get up on stage and wiggle around like the strippers and gogo girls, thinking it is so funny.

Fewer things are more erection-deflating to witness in a strip club or gogo bar. For heterosexual men, that is.

Trump apparently likes it enough to put him in charge of handling and fondling all the big guns bought with American tax dollars.

First of all, kudos to AP for finally being roused out its coma to update their vote count and coming off of that "rounding up" to 50.0% for Trump nonsense. Now they are "rounding up" to 49.9% for him.

[URL]https://apnews.com/projects/election-results-2024/?office=P[/URL]

However, it still appears the Cook Political Report Vote Tracker is on it with an even more recent count, putting it at 49.79% for Trump vs 48.31% for Harris or a difference of 1. 48 point between them. (See screenshot below).

[URL]https://www.cookpolitical.com/vote-tracker/2024/electoral-college[/URL]

Scroll down on this site to Results for the latest / easiest source for the vote count in the only three states that separated a Trump win from a Harris win, PA, MI and WI:

[URL]https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_United_States_presidential_election[/URL]

Doing the math and showing my work (I have typed a lot of numbers with my thumb so forgive me if I mistyped a digit or 2 here. But I don't think that or an update on the overall and state counts would change much), I see that, as of this writing, the number of votes for either Trump or Harris is:

Trump = 77,256,496.

Harris = 74,969,287.

Total for both = 152,225,783.

The vote advantage for Trump in those three states that mattered is:

PA = +120,299.

MI = +80,103.

WI = +29,397.

Total = +229,729.

Of course, all of the 229,729 votes spread across those three states would not have needed to shift from Trump to Harris in order for her to win and Trump to lose. Only half plus 1 in each of those states would have done it:

229,729 divided by 2 = 114,844. 5 angry, Netanyahu-hating but now regretful Muslims.

"Round up" to 114,845 angry, Netanyahu-hating but now regretful Muslims, add 1 more to each of those three states just to make sure and at 114,848, that would mean a shift of a mere 0. 076% of the total popular vote from Trump to Harris in his 2nd term run vs Harris for her 1st term run would have flipped the outcome.

Yes, I would consider that a historic squeaker win for a 2nd term presidential candidate. Easily among the squeakiest if not the squeakiest of all time.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2965430]What was the percentage point gap in the states that put those 2nd term presidential runs at or over 270? If a shift of significantly LESS than 0. 09 point of the total votes, factoring in the shift in those states, where we are with Trump now, would have flipped the outcome, then, yeah they were more of a 2nd term squeaker win than Trump's 2nd term contest won in 2024.

I'll let you do the research and math on that...

Either way, I am impressed that Trump is at least enough of an effective con man that he has convinced anyone that both of his contests combined that netted hundreds of thousands fewer votes than his opposition were "landslides" and "mandates. "..[/QUOTE]I'm not sure why we're arguing. I don't think there's been anything close to a "mandate" in favor of a president since Reagan in 1984. Do you agree?

And I don't buy your reasoning. If in 2020 Trump had gotten 11,000 more votes in Georgia, 20,000 more votes in Wisconsin, etc. , to add up to your 43,000 votes, then he probably would have gotten more votes in California, Texas and other states and won by a lot more than 43,000 votes. But why would you segment votes by state anyway, in trying to determine if someone has a so called "mandate"? Wouldn't it be better to look at the total, national popular vote?

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2965430]But this time it would be helpful if you at least included a link, a screenshot, showing your math, something, anything rather than just, you know, saying it.[/QUOTE]Read it and weep:

[URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_presidential_elections_by_popular_vote_margin[/URL]

You're perfectly capable of finding a list of results of presidential elections to check me all by yourself. Don't expect help next time. You won't learn if you don't struggle.

I did however make a mistake. I should have written, "Trump of course got both a larger % of the popular vote and more electoral votes in 2024 than 2016."