Bangkok Reports

[QUOTE=Bunky]I've been reading all the posts in advance of my first trip this fall. Thanks to everybody for all the informative reportage.

No offense to the guys who book overnight sessions, but I'm more of a short time kinda guy. (As the old saying goes, you pay the girls to leave.) I'm not into chit chat or hanging out. When it comes to sleeping I prefer to do that solo. And the morning go just isn't a priority for me.

But I'm a gentlemen and I don't want to do anything to suggest I'm unhappy with the girl. So I'd appreciate some guidance in respect of how the usual short time session unfolds.

First, do the girls have a time limit in mind? If we go short time do they expect to be on their way at a time certain? If so, please advise. I don't want to break any unwritten rules.

Second, does short time equal one pop? Is so that's fine. Or can I expect ST to unfold like a massage parlor session with a BJ pop followed by some relaxation followed by a second go?

Third, once I've had enough what is the polite way to sending the girl on her way without offence? Is there a euphemism? Some English words the girls understand and won't be offended by?

Fourth, I assume this is when payment is tendered, correct? And I know from reading the traffic here that a small gratuity is often tendered. Is 100 baht the right amount? Or is more expected?

Again, thanks much to all who post here. I have learned much reading your reports.

Bunky[/QUOTE]Hopefully you listen to your instincts back in the bar and the time and all else doesn't have to be an issue. There are those who want to get their cash and leave ASAP. Others who put on a great show but also want to leave the minute you pop. Take your time, find a girl who seems genuinely interested in you, at least to the point of having some sort of connection/chemistry. I tend to avoid the girls who look over at me and say "let's go shower" before even saying hello. They tend to be all business. I usually throw in 100 baht taxi to the girl, then again, I live about a 70 baht taxi ride away, so it's only fair that I pay for them to get back to where we started.

Some girls are just plain weird. I had one a few months ago who came over, put on music, danced, drank, ate, and chatted with me for 3 hours. Thought she was going to end up being number 1 material. But after we started the aerobics, she asked me to hurry up. When I asked why, she said, "only short time. " I reminded her that if she had wanted to be done in 20 minutes, we could have dispensed with all the foreplay!

Usually if the girls are on the business side of things, they will leave before you will ask them to go. But others may want a nice room for the night, to hang out, have a second round, or actually enjoy your company. With these, I often let them stay, or if I want them out, just tell them that I have to get up early to work in the morning or run some errand, and that I'd rather sleep alone.

If you are more in demand of exactly what is on offer, don't be afraid to ask beforehand and spell it all out, it is a business agreement after all.

Happy hunting.

[QUOTE=Iwannahumpalot]The wife was asking me about oily massages. And the happy endings. She then surprises me by saying she would like to watch the girl give me an oily massage with the HJ ending. Well took me by surprise, so I suggested maybe she would like one of the girls to give her an oily massage with a special ending.

Well the look on her face was. A little embarassement but I could see she wants to try it.

I'm staying down along Sukhumvit Road and was wondering if the normal walk in off the street massage shops cater for giving an oily to women.

Any other suggestions welcome.

Thanks[/QUOTE]Some previous reports indicated that Mango ([url]http://mangomassagesoi24.com/[/url]) will make you and your lady very happy.

Cheers,

EtheP

[QUOTE=Ken Orvik]Some years ago a former gf brought me to a very nice japanese sushi place in Sukhumvit. I would very much like to go there again, but can not remember the name or the soi.

I think it must have been somewhere above asoke (in numbers of sois) but not sure.

It was a all kind of sushi buffet, and I think about 800 thb to enter the buffet.
Very nice food and nice restaurant as well.

Anyone have some idea where this place is and whats the name of it???[/QUOTE]

It may not be the place you mean, but Nippon Kai on Soi 33, about 100m on the right as you walk from Suk, is a place i like.

[QUOTE=Goyave]It's better for a foreigner not to get involved at all! Avoid red, yellow, pink and even green (and to a lesser extent also blue) shirts, as those colors are used by various political groups. Grey, brown, black, white, orange and purple, and everything with no real dominant color (with large stripes, for instance) are fine as far as I know.[/QUOTE]

I was thinking about getting a shirt which is red on the outside and yellow on the inside, but now this is to complicated so I think I'll just do as NicFrenchy and his friends in Pattaya and walk around without a shirt.

[QUOTE=Mangofan]Went into Baccara late last night around 12:30 am - only about half full (if that) on a Monday night and being a cheap charllie myself, thought I could get a girl for under the 2000 usual price tag. There's this girl "Sai" who I've had my eye on for a few months upstairs - we chatted for a bit but she still wanted 2,000 ST. Is this now the standard price? Will it ever go down? I know there was a time not so long ago (last year) when I could negotiate 1,000 baht for ST....perhaps those days are gone.

btw the barfine in Baccara is 600 baht - not 900 as has been previously reported.[/QUOTE]Mate,

I am a baccara regular. The jap dudes are paying heavy there and the influx of them in this bar is high in numbers. I asked Mamasan Cherry about this and she says that Baccara does huge advertisements in Japan. There are japanese magazines with the pictures of all girls printed on them etc etc.

The Rate of 2000B for a Girl from the upper floor is the least on offer. On weekends the stunners there ask for 3000 upwards for ST. If you are there next time speak to Bew, her number is 102. Or buy a drink for the mamasan and she will help you.

BTW Baccara is not the place for cheap charlies.

[QUOTE=Ken Orvik]Some years ago a former gf brought me to a very nice japanese sushi place in Sukhumvit. I would very much like to go there again, but can not remember the name or the soi.

I think it must have been somewhere above asoke (in numbers of sois) but not sure.

It was a all kind of sushi buffet, and I think about 800 thb to enter the buffet.
Very nice food and nice restaurant as well.

Anyone have some idea where this place is and whats the name of it???[/QUOTE]

I have tried a number of Sushi places in Bangkok and not many really live up to really top quality at a good price.

My favourite is not a Buffet, but I will guarantee the quality of the sushi and other dishes. I have even had the very spcial "toro" sushi there. Its hard to go anywhere else once you have found the one with the best food, and no rip-off prices.

From Sukhumwit road, enter the first very small Soi after Soi 33 (with Villa Markt at the front). Very soon you will be forced to turn right. The restaurant is then on the right side with bamboo like decoration inside.
It has a menu outside that will show the sushi.
I think its opposite to Fuji supermarket but maybe I miss remember slightly.
Alternatively enter the next Soi (Soi 33/1) and turn to the left. These little Sois are very Japanese oriented.

P.S. I tried a Sushi place in main Soi 33 but it wasn't worth repeating. But the good place is still very close.

Guys,

Today it makes sense to be careful out there, again.

The Government will start to seal off the Rajprasong Intersection area, to move troops in place. Nobody knows right now whether this is just a measure to put pressure on the demonstrators, or whether the situation will escalate.

Don't go near to any of those areas:

- Rajprasong Intersecton / Ploenchit / Siam Square
- Silom / Patpong / Sathon Road
- Pratunam / Panthip Plaza / Sri Ayyuttaya

Remember - whenever the situation escalated there were bomb/grenade attacks in the surrounding areas. Don't go even close to those mentioned areas today.


Giotto

Map of the area to be avoided:

[URL]http://www.nationmultimedia.com/home/2010/05/13/politics/Noose-Tightening-30129212.html[/URL]

[QUOTE=Bunky]So I'd appreciate some guidance in respect of how the usual short time session unfolds.[/QUOTE]Lot of variables: where you find her, time of day/night, future (as in [i]after you[/i]) business prospects... You can search on Bier Garten here and see some of the reports from there - all FL's.

I'd suggest you specify what you're looking for. As stated, I look for someone I find attractive, and there seems to be some chemistry with, more than just "you buy me drink? We go your hotel?". To avoid the "pump and dumps", I'll specify the duration I'm looking for, and the number of shots.

As stated, I've used both the Playboy and the Penthouse ST hotels. Besides many other advantages, when YOU're ready to leave, you can just leave.

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=1008366&postcount=9721[/url]

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=1011579&postcount=9787[/url]

Right now ongoing:

Gunfire and explosions around Silom Complex.

Seh Daeng, the leader if the militant arm of the red shirts, was obviously shot in the head.

BTS service is stopped.

Be careful out there, guys!


Giotto

Giotto,

Thank you very much for the updates.

Gerd

Traffic chaos everywhere.

Sukhumvit (upper part) is a parking lot. Rama IV too.

Looks to me that major junctions are blocked, and the military is preparing a major operation.

Stay safe, guys. The hotel is a good place tonight!


Giotto

[QUOTE=Giotto]Right now ongoing:

Gunfire and explosions around Silom Complex.

Seh Daeng, the leader if the militant arm of the red shirts, was obviously shot in the head.

BTS service is stopped.

Be careful out there, guys!


Giotto[/QUOTE]
Thanks for the updates Giotto. Seems like I did wise going straight to Pattaya when I arrived yesterday. Bangkok can wait for another day.

[QUOTE=Tim Bone]Thanks for the updates Giotto. Seems like I did wise going straight to Pattaya when I arrived yesterday. Bangkok can wait for another day.[/QUOTE]Tim / Giotto,

This suck I am planning a week in Bangkok next month and take up Giotto offer of 30 % ISG discount at livingstone, I am not too sure anymore if the king die this can easy belcome a civil war in Thailand soon.

Fast Eddie 48

Hi,

I have tryped some sushi places, and I need to say that one of the best places is till the sushi place in the westin. It is the best quality I had. The place is called KISSO. Expensive but I have not found a better place. (ok exep in in cupertino)

Will

[QUOTE=M P Lurker]I have tried a number of Sushi places in Bangkok and not many really live up to really top quality at a good price.

My favourite is not a Buffet, but I will guarantee the quality of the sushi and other dishes. I have even had the very spcial "toro" sushi there. Its hard to go anywhere else once you have found the one with the best food, and no rip-off prices.

From Sukhumwit road, enter the first very small Soi after Soi 33 (with Villa Markt at the front). Very soon you will be forced to turn right. The restaurant is then on the right side with bamboo like decoration inside.

It has a menu outside that will show the sushi.

I think its opposite to Fuji supermarket but maybe I miss remember slightly.

Alternatively enter the next Soi (Soi 33/1) and turn to the left. These little Sois are very Japanese oriented.

P.S. I tried a Sushi place in main Soi 33 but it wasn't worth repeating. But the good place is still very close.[/QUOTE]

Arrived at airport at 2pm, had booked express imigration wih hotel and there was a guy with my name waiting at the plane door and he took me through the diplomats immigration counter, I barely stopped walking on my way through, if I didn't have to wait for my luggage I would have went from plane seat to taxi in 5 mins tops. Cost 1000 through president solitaite hotel, got to hotel and checked into room, its a suite with 4 rooms and a huge jacuzzi, lovely! 3000 a night, but I am spoling myself, its my holiday But this is still cheap, no?

Was meant to have a date in the evening with a girl from tll, but she moved it to tonight, so I went and had a beer at beirgarden talked to a nice girl there with a great boob job (3500 euros she claimed), was offered 1000ST for 2 hours after a little negotiating. I declined because I had made up my mind to goto eden.

So a quick call to another girl from tll to arrange a meet at 8pm, then off to eden, picked 2 from the left hand side and off to the room where they scrubbed me from head to toe then on to bed where one sucked me while the other stuck her tongue up my ass until I finished, then a short break for a massage before more of the same and then anal with both, even a little ATM which was a first for me, before I finished as per round 1.

Back to hotel, changed then off for date, where I was promplty stood up, so went to a bar called morning night just by nana plaza, which is great for watching the girls walk by, met a couple of nice girls, had a game off pool, then went to rainbow 4 in nana plaza, went in ordered a beer, 145bht, left within about 5 mins cause it was so shit, girls just standng on stage looking really depressed, got accosted by the ladyboys, jesus some of them look good, wish they were real women!

Went back to hotel by 10. 30, was feeling tired, room service, 4 coarses, delicious! And off for a fitful nights sleep, and I am feeling good today.

Damn, I just lost my report!

Right the short version now!

Arrived 2pm, through diplomats immigration cost 1000, checked into president solitaire, went to beeirgarden offered 1000 ST 2 hours, declined, then went to eden picked 2 from the left 3600bht for 90 mins, shower then BJ from one while the other licked my ass till I finished, quick massage then more of the same and anal with both even some atm before finishing as per round 1.

Then date with tll girl but she stood me up so hung out at nana in morning night bar, good bar for watching the girls go by. Then went to rainbow 4, total shit, acosted by the ladyboys, then an early night

Good fun all round.

Guys,

Skytrain will be down soon.

There is trouble everywhere, shootings in Chidlom, Lumpini, Wireless Road.

Troops closing in at Pratunam.

Troops building barricades to seal off Rajprasong Intersection.

Sukhumvit road blocked at Asoke, direction Nana / Chidlom / Rajprasong.

Helicopters in the air.

[b]Stay away from that area![/b]


Giotto

Giotto, thanks for the reports. It's good to know the real news about what's going on and where, and not just what's going on. I hope you and all my other ISG friends remain safe, and I hope this mess passes soon. I'm looking forward to my trip there early next year. I'm glad I decided to postpone my trip.

Any truth to the shooting at Soi 4 last night around 300am? Soi 4 is blocked off to traffic...

Safe in my soi 8 hotel....

Edited.... Sorry, the thai gf was wrong.. It was a killing on soi 3, maybe by the interesection between soi 4... Sounds like a black guy killed someone, no racism intended... Just wondering if there was any truth?

Major parts of the city are on lock down, but wont let this deter me, anyone have an idea of where to go tonight outside the soukovit / sol?

Any pointers from the old school locals most appreciated - this is my only night here.

[QUOTE=Giotto]Guys,

Skytrain will be down soon.

There is trouble everywhere, shootings in Chidlom, Lumpini, Wireless Road.

Troops closing in at Pratunam.

Troops building barricades to seal off Rajprasong Intersection.

Sukhumvit road blocked at Asoke, direction Nana / Chidlom / Rajprasong.

Helicopters in the air.

[b]Stay away from that area![/b]


Giotto[/QUOTE]
Is Soi Cowboy still operating and access to subway at Sukhumwit?

Guys,

there are coming coup rumours from all sides. Now - that's not unusual in such a situation...

But - this time it will NOT be like last time (2006). If there is a coup there will be resistance everywhere.

That means: If you see tanks in the streets then it's definitely not a good idea to be on the streets.


Giotto

[QUOTE=Giotto]Guys,

there are coming coup rumours from all sides. Now - that's not unusual in such a situation...

But - this time it will NOT be like last time (2006). If there is a coup there will be resistance everywhere.
[/QUOTE]

Everywhere? I get the impression from the international press (and the Bangkok Post - though we all know its political leanings) that the Red Shirts have become increasingly isolated. My guess - which is probably worthless as I'm 5,000 miles away - would have been that the Shirts, (1) deprived now of their militia leader, (2) hemmed into a defined part of the business district, (3) having antagonised and lost some of their main moderate leaders, and (4) being surrounded by the army, will fold if the army moves into their encampment with force.

If you think differently then it would appear to me that it's either because you believe (a) the army and/or police will not remain loyal to the government if such a thing happens; or (b) there will be a general revolt in BKK if this happens. Ah well...

...I'm coming to BKK next week, and I must say that the prospect of being at the centre of these historic events has, if anything, strengthened my resolve to go.

[QUOTE=Priamos]Everywhere? I get the impression from the international press (and the Bangkok Post - though we all know its political leanings) that the Red Shirts have become increasingly isolated. My guess - ................
...I'm coming to BKK next week, and I must say that the prospect of being at the centre of these historic events has, if anything, strengthened my resolve to go.[/QUOTE]
I can just picture all this!!

Priamos and Giotto having a battle of words about politics at the Livingstone Sport Lounge - whilst the gals are tugging at Priamos' sleeves to take them upstairs!! Bombs exploding and gun fire whizzing overhead!

Sex and politics!!

How appropriate!!

LOL!!

SEAJ
Ps. Priamos - you GOTTA stay at Livingstones Lodge - you just got to!!

[QUOTE=Jutju]Ok I've searched for over an hour. Where do all the local Thai men go for service? I've lived in Iasan for a few years now and will be visiting Bangkok soon. My thai is ok. I'd like to try some of the local spots. Sw's, brothels are perferred. Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]BTS Sapan Kwai 100m behind the Big C street name is Intramara Soi 2. The place is 99 and the one behind. it You wont miss it because many of these shady neon lited places where Thai girls will service Thai guys. No bar fine there and cheaper beers, sex, and food. And since u can speak Thai , very helpfully in this area.

Note: If you're gross looking old etc. you will have a harder time pulling from these places because these girls are used to Thai guys. I have pull from these places many times successfully.

Good luck and happy hunting

[QUOTE=M P Lurker]Is Soi Cowboy still operating and access to subway at Sukhumwit?[/QUOTE]I went by the 'Boy tonight in a taxi at about 11pm and all was still lit up and active. Not too sure about the MRT, although I did hear it was closing early.

Lots of lonely ladies sitting outside massage shops all over middle Sukhumvit (I took a taxi up to soi 33 to have dinner at Livingstone's). Interestingly, I did hear from a reliable source that one lady at Tulip had five customers today! Some things just defy even heavy street fighting!

[QUOTE=Fon Tok]I went by the 'Boy tonight in a taxi at about 11pm and all was still lit up and active. Not too sure about the MRT, although I did hear it was closing early.

Lots of lonely ladies sitting outside massage shops all over middle Sukhumvit (I took a taxi up to soi 33 to have dinner at Livingstone's). Interestingly, I did hear from a reliable source that one lady at Tulip had five customers today! Some things just defy even heavy street fighting![/QUOTE]Can wait to get there! I should arrive Sunday.

Dear Friends,

Please can anyone let me know if I can expect some Russian or caucasian girls in Bangkok or Pattaya. I am coming Bangkok for 10days and wish to make it the best xperience of my life. This is probably my first as well as last visit to Bangkok. Any link to escort agency wherein I can find russians is highly appreciated.

Once again please help.

Regards,

LB

Ok guys, help me out. Yes, I have searched and RTFF.

I will be arriving BKK on Sunday night at 2245. I have almost 10 hrs before I catch another flight out on Monday. My original plan is to cab it down towards Sukhumvit and try one of the massage places. I'm concerned about going downtown with all the violence going on in the streets. So, I'm thinking about staying at one the airport hotels around BKK instead of going downtown. My question is, what are my options around that area? Looks like I'm screwed. This is my first time in BKK and would've loved to have a little bit of fun during my short layover.

[QUOTE=Fly Boi]Ok guys, help me out. Yes, I have searched and RTFF.

I will be arriving BKK on Sunday night at 2245. I have almost 10 hrs before I catch another flight out on Monday. My original plan is to cab it down towards Sukhumvit and try one of the massage places. I'm concerned about going downtown with all the violence going on in the streets. So, I'm thinking about staying at one the airport hotels around BKK instead of going downtown. My question is, what are my options around that area? Looks like I'm screwed. This is my first time in BKK and would've loved to have a little bit of fun during my short layover.[/QUOTE]

Cab it down to Tulip and you should be fine.

[quote=lastbencher]dear friends,

please can anyone let me know if i can expect some russian or caucasian girls in bangkok or pattaya. i am coming bangkok for 10days and wish to make it the best xperience of my life. this is probably my first as well as last visit to bangkok. any link to escort agency wherein i can find russians is highly appreciated.

once again please help.

regards,

lb[/quote]


i think if you are after "good" quality russian or caucasian girls, bkk is not the place to go.

i never understand people who go to asia to find hookers from europe.
there are so many better options of destinations if you want that.

my advice: when you are in bkk, stick to asian girls.

at least the europeen/russian girls i have met have been expensive/overpriced and not so good looking.

ken

[QUOTE=Lastbencher]Dear Friends,

Please can anyone let me know if I can expect some Russian or caucasian girls in Bangkok or Pattaya.[/QUOTE]At night you will find most of them in CM2, Spasso, Qbar or even outside BedSupperClub. During the day check out the upscaled coffee bars at the back streets of Siam Square (Soi Chulalongkorn 64). Cheaper than in Moscow, but not so much, 10000 Bt for an overnight stay seems to be common practice. And definitely not as beautiful as in Russia. Most of them will let you believe they are from Moscow or Kiev but the majority of them comes from Uzbekistan.

[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48]Tim / Giotto,

This suck I am planning a week in Bangkok next month and take up Giotto offer of 30 % ISG discount at livingstone, I am not too sure anymore if the king die this can easy belcome a civil war in Thailand soon.

Fast Eddie 48[/QUOTE]Not all but some are willing to risk their life to get laid. Many not only by BBBJ and BBFS, but also by actually dodging bullets. That tells me WGs will not be a thing of the past anytime soon. Cost sometimes seems to be as big part of the equation as the risk of losing life. Pretty amazing.

(Not a value statement)

[QUOTE=Fly Boi]Ok guys, help me out. Yes, I have searched and RTFF.

I will be arriving BKK on Sunday night at 2245. I have almost 10 hrs before I catch another flight out on Monday. My original plan is to cab it down towards Sukhumvit and try one of the massage places. I'm concerned about going downtown with all the violence going on in the streets. So, I'm thinking about staying at one the airport hotels around BKK instead of going downtown. My question is, what are my options around that area? Looks like I'm screwed. This is my first time in BKK and would've loved to have a little bit of fun during my short layover.[/QUOTE]

I checked out the airport hotel situation once and was very disappointed. I wanted to find a reasonable priced hotel where I could just hang out and sleep for a few hours and get a nice massage with extras. Most of the hotels were too expensive and I eventually found a small local hotel that was not too expensive and offered massage.

It was hell to find - the cab driver knew where every downtown hotel was but not this one. The masseuse was a lady in her 40s but no extras. Cost me about 800baht with hard bargaining to get a hand job with no touching her.

YOu are better off going to Sukhumvit. The further down Sukhumvit, the safer you are as you would be moving away from the point where the violence is taking place. Tulip at THong Lor would be good. I don't know if they close at a fixed time, though. If you think you can't find Tulip, you could go for one or more of the places nearer Nana. Your time of arrival is a bit unfortunate as many places close at midnight. You could get a room and get a girl from Sabai massage - no FS on the premises but plenty in a hotel/guest house room. A bit expensive for the two hours takeout, I thought (can't remember what they charged), but the girl let me have two rounds.

[quote=ken orvik]i think if you are after "good" quality russian or caucasian girls, bkk is not the place to go.

i never understand people who go to asia to find hookers from europe.
there are so many better options of destinations if you want that.

my advice: when you are in bkk, stick to asian girls.

at least the europeen/russian girls i have met have been expensive/overpriced and not so good looking.

ken[/quote]

i strongly agree. in an asian nation, white is a novelty.

novelty will cost you, as always.

i would hunt for russians and caucasians where they are a dime a dozen. in their homeland.

but nonetheless, if thats where your taste sends you and you cant find yourself in europe anytime soon, i recall reading on this forum that the nana hotel and i think it was rajah hotel lobby would have some russians? even pimps that handle them sitting there prospecting for business as you walk through the lobby.

once again, this is something i read whilst trawling this forum ages ago. never tried. prefer the thai's. :)

Thank you much Simian.

You're right, I think I'm better off biting the bullet and going to where the action is. Hopefully, the civil unrest will cool down by then.

Thanks guys.

[QUOTE=Kenster]
But nonetheless, if thats where your taste sends you and you cant find yourself in europe anytime soon, i recall reading on this forum that the Nana Hotel and i think it was Rajah Hotel lobby would have some russians? Even pimps that handle them sitting there prospecting for business as you walk through the lobby.
[/QUOTE]

I can confirm (part of) this information. The Rajah Hotel lobby is the place to meet short-termers - or, I should perhaps say the ground floor of the Hotel, because the girls walk around in groups sometimes. But just order a drink and sit down in the lobby; you'll be contacted. The action starts around sunset.

Having said that, I've been there, done that and I don't recommend it. First, the girls don't do outcalls. I was staying at neighbouring Hotel Majestic Grande and even there they wouldn't go. The only thing on offer is sex in their own upstairs rooms. And for that they charge a very high 2,500 baht ST. Last year I spent some 30 minutes upstairs with "Marina", a tall natural blonde from St. Petersburg. The service was OK, nothing more, nothing less. In other words, the price/quality ratio was great by Western European standards, but pretty dissapointing for Bangkok. I didn't return.

[QUOTE=SE Asia Joe]I can just picture all this!!

Priamos and Giotto having a battle of words about politics at the Livingstone Sport Lounge - whilst the gals are tugging at Priamos' sleeves to take them upstairs!! Bombs exploding and gun fire whizzing overhead!
[/QUOTE]

Sounds like the fall of Phom Penh to me. :)

[QUOTE=SE Asia Joe]
Ps. Priamos - you GOTTA stay at Livingstones Lodge - you just got to!![/QUOTE]

Absolutely not. Four Seasons! Closer to the action! :)

Relatively quiet right now.

Skytrain service is said to be down all day.


Giotto

[quote=ken orvik]i think if you are after "good" quality russian or caucasian girls, bkk is not the place to go.

i never understand people who go to asia to find hookers from europe.
there are so many better options of destinations if you want that.

my advice: when you are in bkk, stick to asian girls.

at least the europeen/russian girls i have met have been expensive/overpriced and not so good looking.

ken[/quote]

ken, i suppose lastbencher is a gentlemen from india, or surrounding states. for those people it's difficult and expensive to come to europe or russia. according my observations south asian people (indians, pakistanian, iranian, etc.) often have only eyes for white flesh and are not too interested in skinny brown thai girls. at least that's my observations from various visits in pattaya walking street and clubs in bkk, like spicy, bossy and the like. either it's those guys don't care about performance and are 100% into visual things. will say, if a girl is pretty by their standards it doesn't matter if she is a starfish, or it has something to do with prestige. it's maybe the same like driving a mercedes. if they can tell for their friends they had sex with a caucasian or russian girl, than they increase their prestige. often they might add some exaggeration like most people do, when they tell stories and soon everybody in their culture, believes that sex with russians is the best you can have in live.
i hear from a similar szenario in egypt, about western female tourists who let themselve fuck by egyptian beach boys. in a country where free sex is something absolute unique and unbelievable, those stories spread over the land like a stormwind.

Google Map of the problem zone / clashes :

[URL]http://maps.google.co.th/maps/ms?hl=en&ie=UTF8&msa=0&msid=116480606892254086046.0004817fafbb87b0951c0&ll=13.738718,100.546618&spn=0.057112,0.111494&z=14[/URL]

By DENIS D. GRAY

updated 37 minutes ago
BANGKOK - Thailand's army designated a riot-wracked neighborhood in central Bangkok as "live firing zone" on Saturday, as streets in the Asian metropolis became battlegrounds and authorities struggled to contain Red Shirt demonstrators demanding the prime minister's resignation.

Soldiers unrolled razor wire across roads leading to the Ratchaprarop area Saturday and pinned Thai and English-language notices saying "Live Firing Zone" and "Restricted Area. No Entry."

Slim

My plane arrived at BKK a couple of nights ago at about 11 pm. I was in my hotel on Sukhumvit Soi 23, showered and ready to relax by 12:30 am. I called my favorite Tulip girl who immediately came over to tuck me in. The little Isaan [i]darling[/i] spent the night, the next day, and the next night before going back to work this morning. Let me tell you, 30 hours with an insatiable flower shop girl can have a draining effect on a guy!

This afternoon, in need of fresh air to clear my brain, I walked across Asoke, (MRT tunnel shut due to the mayhem), to Soi 19 and Friends Barber & Massage for a little trim (my fingernails). The lazy girls there were disappointed that I passed on offers of a massage. I grinned and told them I would come back soon. BTW, there were soldiers across the road looking more than a little bored.

I crossed Suhkumvit for a stop at Milan Suit to order a couple of new shirts, then back over to Soi Cowboy for a cheeseburger at The Old Dutch Corner (excellent, btw).

After lunch, walking down Soi 23, I couldn't help but think how hot it was. Really hot (yesterdays max temp was 38.1 degrees)!

As I made the turn into the driveway of my hotel, I could hear the oft familiar cries of "maaasaaage, maaasaaage" from a shop just across the soi. I walked about 10 meters, opportunity knocked on my fuzzy head, I did a 180 and stumbled back to the shop. After surveying the shapely goods, I arranged for a pretty little thing to come up to my room a little later.

After a shower and shave, the massage girl tapped on my door. She performed a decent oil massage before suggesting a "special." Like I said, opportunity knocks. The vixen rode me cowgirl style with her great little body until I was about ready to call for oxygen. I made a mental note to go back to see her when jet lag was gone.

The flower shop girl comes back later tonight.

So it goes in the land of M79 grenades, burning tires, rubber bullets (hmmm...), machine guns, political assassinations, etc.

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[QUOTE=Giotto]Google Map of the problem zone / clashes :

[URL]http://maps.google.co.th/maps/ms?hl=en&ie=UTF8&msa=0&msid=116480606892254086046.0004817fafbb87b0951c0&ll=13.738718,100.546618&spn=0.057112,0.111494&z=14[/URL][/QUOTE]
I used to rent an apartment on Soi Rang Naam (Pratunaam) near the Victory monument. Thankfully not there any more.

[QUOTE=Fon Tok]...
The flower shop girl comes back later tonight.
...
[/QUOTE]Fon Tok,

And then you showed her your M79 and your rubber balls, right ?


Giotto

[QUOTE=Fly Boi]Ok guys, help me out. Yes, I have searched and RTFF.

I will be arriving BKK on Sunday night at 2245. I have almost 10 hrs before I catch another flight out on Monday. My original plan is to cab it down towards Sukhumvit and try one of the massage places. I'm concerned about going downtown with all the violence going on in the streets. So, I'm thinking about staying at one the airport hotels around BKK instead of going downtown. My question is, what are my options around that area? Looks like I'm screwed. This is my first time in BKK and would've loved to have a little bit of fun during my short layover.[/QUOTE]You can also book a cheap room at a hotel called Royal Pacific. This is roughly midway between the airport and downtown. You still need to check the security situation beforehand, but if you want to avoid the more violence-prone areas this might be a good option. AND: They have Colonze 4 right next door. How is that for convenience!

I believe Giotto should be nominated for a Pulitzer Prize for his excellent reporting from BKK. For those that don't know the Pulitzer Prize is a U.S. award given for great achievements in Journalism and some other categories.

I'll ask a question that has been asked before. Are Nana Plaza and Soi Cowboy operating normally? I may spend a few nights there but only if I can freely room in the area between Nana and Cowboy.

I am not a Nana fan but I can say Soi Cowboy is open and business as usual. Bit slow when I've been there (last night).

[QUOTE=Allover]I believe Giotto should be nominated for a Pulitzer Prize for his excellent reporting from BKK. For those that don't know the Pulitzer Prize is a U.S. award given for great achievements in Journalism and some other categories.

I'll ask a question that has been asked before. Are Nana Plaza and Soi Cowboy operating normally? I may spend a few nights there but only if I can freely room in the area between Nana and Cowboy.[/QUOTE]

Its getting nasty keep your heads down.

[QUOTE=Allover]...
I'll ask a question that has been asked before. Are Nana Plaza and Soi Cowboy operating normally? I may spend a few nights there but only if I can freely room in the area between Nana and Cowboy.[/QUOTE]Allover,

I walked there today - Soi Cowboy is business as usual, you can walk down the lower Sukhumvit to Soi Nana, no problem. A lot soldiers on Sukhumvit. But it's not a hot-zone of the conflict.

Red shirts apparently try to establish two new stages/sub-demos - one on Victory Monument and one close to Klong Toey market. I have seen the one in Klong Toey already on pictures. The strategy could be to move there in case the pressure on Rajprasong becomes too strong.

I don't think this will happen.

[b]I am more worried about an attack on the main tourist sites when things escalate. We have rumours about a mortar shell hitting Saladaeng approximately one hour ago. If that happens in Nana, lower Sukhumvit or Cowboy ...[/b]

24 people dead - that's the official number from the last 2 days. The official number ... !!!

It seams to be quiet right now - but things change within seconds at the moment.

Be careful out there!


Giotto

Hi,

Apologies for somewhat of a newbie question, but with the street violence (in some areas), I wonder if most mongerers are keeping their activities within or as close to the hotel as possible?

(I've been to BKK once, stayed at the Park Plaza, which I really liked)

I am scheduled to be in BKK in about 3 weeks, and reserved the Park Plaza a few weeks ago but I believe it's a hotel where there aren't any girls that hang around the bar or restaurant (if I recall correctly).

So, am I better off going to a place like Grand Millennium, for example, which has girls in the immediate area and inside the hotel bar itself? Or can one have a good time at the Park Plaza and safely go to the nearby soi areas (near Asoke) for the action?

Thanks in advance to any/all for any helpful replies!

Precaution won over lust and I have decided to drop Thailand for my trip end f this month going to Germany instead (FKK clubs and all that) but from what I read this may take the colour of a civil war if things escalate further.

This is the worst news for our mongering community. Guys just imagine we can't go to Thailand!

My prayers with the Thais and hope normalcy returns soon and the great country becomes as safe and as charming as it always is

Take care guys who are on the field.

I don't know, but I have since days now this increasing feeling that this marks the end to the LOS as we mongers know it-after everything is over. I sure hope I am not correct. What also completely puzzles me is the absence from any news about/from the King. Disturbing.

[QUOTE=Mrdurden]Hi,

Apologies for somewhat of a newbie question, but with the street violence (in some areas), I wonder if most mongerers are keeping their activities within or as close to the hotel as possible?

(I've been to BKK once, stayed at the Park Plaza, which I really liked)

I am scheduled to be in BKK in about 3 weeks, and reserved the Park Plaza a few weeks ago but I believe it's a hotel where there aren't any girls that hang around the bar or restaurant (if I recall correctly).

So, am I better off going to a place like Grand Millennium, for example, which has girls in the immediate area and inside the hotel bar itself? Or can one have a good time at the Park Plaza and safely go to the nearby soi areas (near Asoke) for the action?

Thanks in advance to any/all for any helpful replies![/QUOTE]



You need to go to Giotto's Forum, he has everything for you "in house"

[QUOTE=Dominos Dick]Precaution won over lust and I have decided to drop Thailand for my trip end f this month going to Germany instead (FKK clubs and all that) but from what I read this may take the colour of a civil war if things escalate further.

This is the worst news for our mongering community. Guys just imagine we can't go to Thailand!

My prayers with the Thais and hope normalcy returns soon and the great country becomes as safe and as charming as it always is

Take care guys who are on the field.[/QUOTE]Dominos,

Not only the risk and the danger getting caught on cross fire ,I don't think Bangkok is a good place to go mongering right now many local is staying home scare to go out and that included the WG ,many options in SE ASIA monger can go to like PI and China .

Fast eddie 48

Thanks for the constant updates Giotto.
I have a trip to Pattaya and Bkk in early June. Up until the last few days I had no intention of making changes, but I'm thinking it may be a matter of time before lower Suk/Nana and/or Cowboy become directly affected. I'm on the verge of changing my trip to Pattaya/Patong. I got caught up in the airport closure and really cant be bothered to be that inconvenienced again.

[QUOTE=Giotto]Allover,

I walked there today - Soi Cowboy is business as usual, you can walk down the lower Sukhumvit to Soi Nana, no problem. A lot soldiers on Sukhumvit. But it's not a hot-zone of the conflict.

Red shirts apparently try to establish two new stages/sub-demos - one on Victory Monument and one close to Klong Toey market. I have seen the one in Klong Toey already on pictures. The strategy could be to move there in case the pressure on Rajprasong becomes too strong.

I don't think this will happen.

[b]I am more worried about an attack on the main tourist sites when things escalate. We have rumours about a mortar shell hitting Saladaeng approximately one hour ago. If that happens in Nana, lower Sukhumvit or Cowboy ...[/b]

24 people dead - that's the official number from the last 2 days. The official number ... !!!

It seams to be quiet right now - but things change within seconds at the moment.

Be careful out there!


Giotto[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Frankfurter]I don't know, but I have since days now this increasing feeling that this marks the end to the LOS as we mongers know it-after everything is over. I sure hope I am not correct. What also completely puzzles me is the absence from any news about/from the King. Disturbing.[/QUOTE] "Disturbing" is the perfect word Frankfurter. This conflict, in essence, could be about the forced degradation of monarchical power. We foreigners who live in Thailand may be too close to the thing to see it as it really is. I personally have been dreading the day the King became too weak to maintain his aura, and I feel that this class dichotomy based conflict was inevitable, written in stone. The spark has always been there, Thaksin Shinawatra, with his incredibly conceited and corrupt vision of absolute power, fueled the explosion. (Each voter for Thaksin received 500 Baht, a fifth of Saeng Som whisky, and a free dinner... yeah Thais are a cheap date.)

The New York Times article addressing this issue today:

[url]http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/16/world/asia/16king.html?hp[/url]

Distressing, depressing... disturbing. :( Bangkok will certainly take time to change, and our hobby will go on, but yes, a change is definitely on the horizon. Be prepared for it.

Arrived yesterday to my hotel in soi 2 after a long tiring trip from Europe. The taxi driver had problems with accessing the hotel as some streets are closed at the moment. When I arrived at 3 pm the receptionist said I was their first guest today. The floor I stay on, I'm the only one, so here is rather quiet. Outside on the streets everything looks fine as usual, but little more quiet too. Soldiers are spread along sukhumvit up to Asoke especially at the train stations. 2 soldiers were guarding at Nanas the whole afternoon. In the evening there were plenty of activity in Nanas, but less customers the girls I spoke to said. I had a good time and didn't feel any danger, but of course things can changes. Further I'm not local, so I cannot fell how close and serious the fights are for the people.

Schubba

Thai government added a 1 week delay to the start of the School year and instituted a curfew in the zone. Anyone on the street in the zone can be shot.

This is the best map I found:
[url]http://maps.google.co.th/maps/ms?hl=en-GB&ie=UTF8&msa=0&msid=116480606892254086046.0004817fafbb87b0951c0&ll=13.740969,100.550866&spn=0.028806,0.045447&z=15[/url]

Those considering travel to Thailand may want to consider locations besides Bangkok or utilize travel waivers.

The Nana area is nearly dead, being only 1 KM from the Red Shirt Camp. You can hear gunfire and explosions all night long. Only a handful of food carts were even out on Soi 4 last night.

I was here after 911, Avian Flu and Yellow shirts. This is the lowest tourist flow I have seen in 15 years visiting. Even taxi drivers and working girls told me they are staying home in fear, but also no customers.

Most hotels now have more employees than guests. It is very easy to get a Hotel discount off Internet specials. I got a 20% reduction off the lowest prices at several hotels by asking. One hotel told me that not only do they have fewer guests, but some check-in for a few hours, after changing their plans to Pattaya or Phuket.

Soldiers have been out for over 3 weeks in all the tourist areas, but only Saturday did they deploy several hundred along Sukumvit, housing them at the tobacco factory nearby. Towards Wireless road, you will find armored personnel carriers and sandbag emplacements. The soldiers are very friendly and pose for photos with tourists ;)

Both sides of the issues have kept the violence well contained. I have no fear of getting hurt, attacked or otherwise. The only real injuries or fatalities have been in the declared kill zone. Foreigners cannot go there without a press pass.

If you do come, its probably better to stay near Asok. Its well out of Mortar range.


Be safe everyone.

[QUOTE=Nauskas] You can hear gunfire and explosions all night long.
[/QUOTE]Sorry my friend but that really is not correct. I'm not downplaying the situation but there are far too many media outlets stoking the fire.

11:00pm-05:00am

First good news in days:

tulsathit: [b]Urgent: CRES puts off curfew plan.[/b]
Sunday, 16 May, 2010 5:30:17 PM

tulsathit: [b]CRES has thanked red leaders for allowing kids/women/old ppl to move out of rajprasong.[/b]
Sunday, 16 May, 2010 5:27:29 PM

Obviously no curfew today.

Some kind of talking is going on.

OK, guys, this might be the most dangerous time of the game, IF THERE REALLY IS A THIRD HAND PARTICIPATING!

[size=+2][b]Stay at home or at the hotels![/b][/size]


Giotto

New Google map of the hot zones:

[URL]http://maps.google.co.th/maps/ms?hl=en&ie=UTF8&msa=0&msid=116480606892254086046.0004817fafbb87b0951c0&ll=13.738718,100.546618&spn=0.057112,0.111494&z=14[/URL]

[b]Govt declares May 17 and 18 public holidays in Bangkok. [/b]
Sunday, 16 May, 2010 6:42:05 PM

We have to understand this a clear warning, that something is going to happen, if the red shirt leader will not clear the Rajprasong demonstration.

Sukhumvit road is blocked somwhere outside - to prevent new red shirts from entering the city. There are army trucks in Soi Nana, lots of soldiers in the lower Sukhumvit.

If you still need to go out (DON'T) it's Soi Cowboy or Soi 33 for today! Nana seams to be not a good idea right now.


Giotto

[QUOTE=Nauskas]If you do come, its probably better to stay near Asok. Its well out of Mortar range. Be safe everyone.[/QUOTE]

60 mm Mortar 1000-3500 meters

81 mm 4600-5700 meters

107 mm 5600-6800 meters

120 mm 7200 meters


Asok is well within range of random or aimed mortar fire. Especially the heavier and far more lethal (but still highly portable and easily concealable) varieties.

There is nothing that says the fire has to originate from within the "red" zone anyway. In fact, it would more likely not be fired from there as that area is heavily surveilled and too unstable.

Note that either side could launch a veiled attack on tourist areas with different motives, but the same results as far as the victims are concerned.

RPG's, hand and gun fired grenades, burst and single-round gunfire, and IED's also are a threat.

Random acts of violence are likely to occur as the overall secuity situation continues to degrade. Looting, arson, and opportunistic robberies and other crimes may occur.

DO NOT go outside wearing anything red, yellow, or any shade of green which could be mistaken as military camoflage. Women should be especially careful.

It is safest to leave Bangkok and keep a low profile wherever you go.

[QUOTE=Naughty]60 mm Mortar 1000-3500 meters

81 mm 4600-5700 meters

107 mm 5600-6800 meters

120 mm 7200 meters


Asok is well within range of random or aimed mortar fire. Especially the heavier and far more lethal (but still highly portable and easily concealable) varieties.

Note that either side could launch a veiled attack on tourist areas with different motives, but the same results as far as the victims are concerned.

It is safest to leave Bangkok and keep a low profile wherever you go.[/QUOTE]
Yeah... Take cover in the Fuhrerbunker-15-Thermae-Strasse . No I dont think he meant mortars like that.

[QUOTE=Primo Bolan]Yeah... Take cover in the Fuhrerbunker-15-Thermae-Strasse . No I dont think he meant mortars like that.[/QUOTE]


Does the Thai military use toy mortars?

If the government doesn't stand down and resume talks there is going to be a blood bath.

Is it still possible to leave Bangkok? I live in Sathorn near Silom and was thinking of getting out to Pattaya to escape all this.

spend the Sunday in my hotel on sukhumvit soi 2 and had a few walks in the area to biergarten and some oil massage. At 5 pm there were very few girls in biergarten. I passed by Nana 7.30 pm, all clubs were open, but those I looked into was almost empty - no or few girls. One place said it was too early and they will come later 10 pm!!. That is not normal. Else all street bars open and full of waiting and hungry girls :-)

The army has established a check point behind my hotel - the street before soi 2 along the high way. My hotel, who is following the situation, told me it was ok to go out if you against Asoke.

If you want to become suicide it is not guaranteed it will happen for you in this area :-) - better find a bridge and jump. What ever you do in life there is allways a risk. You shall just minimize it and only yourself can do it by taking precautions. So I will go out tonight to take care of the sweet girls in the empty bars.

Problem zones right now:

Bon Kai / Klong Toey / Rama IV: Gunfire / Lotus shopping center on fire

Wireless Road: Gunfire / Explosions

Din Daeng: Situation reported to be tense, red shirts with hand guns

Victory Monument

Thon Buri Bridge


Giotto

[QUOTE=Naughty]
60 mm Mortar 1000-3500 meters
[/QUOTE]

It was an M-224 that was noted to have been used. Most likely it is old stuff with a range under 1.5 km. (Asok is beyond the spots like Sala Daeng or the box) Considering the reds are mostly packing sling shots, bows and arrows and fire crackers, it doesn't seem useful to blow it out of proportion.

Considering the only foreigners to get hurt have been reporters in the kill box, I find it highly unlikely anyone will target tourist zones or specifically civilian targets.

Much of the drama for both sides has been controlled to avoid issues outside the declared hot spot.

[QUOTE=Giotto]New Google map of the hot zones:

[URL]http://maps.google.co.th/maps/ms?hl=en&ie=UTF8&msa=0&msid=116480606892254086046.0004817fafbb87b0951c0&ll=13.738718,100.546618&spn=0.057112,0.111494&z=14[/URL][/QUOTE]

What is new here ? its the same map I posted earlier with a bigger zoom

[QUOTE=Nauskas]What is new here ? its the same map I posted earlier with a bigger zoom[/QUOTE]Nauskas,

I am very sorry, but I missed your post.


Giotto

[QUOTE=Nauskas]It was an M-224 that was noted to have been used. Most likely it is old stuff with a range under 1.5 km. (Asok is beyond the spots like Sala Daeng or the box) Considering the reds are mostly packing sling shots, bows and arrows and fire crackers, it doesn't seem useful to blow it out of proportion.

Considering the only foreigners to get hurt have been reporters in the kill box, I find it highly unlikely anyone will target tourist zones or specifically civilian targets.

Much of the drama for both sides has been controlled to avoid issues outside the declared hot spot.[/QUOTE]


I agree that the probability of attacks on tourists is low.

I also think that the probablility of attacks on tourists is higher than it has ever been.

As the desperation of the Reds rises and the government seeks to justify its actions, the possibility of a random attack increases. It is rouge elements of either side, provocateurs if you will, and opportunistic criminals, even non-Thai's, that present the greatest danger.

"Desperate times bring desperate measures".

Fireworks are going off all night tonight. I can hear very sustained firecrackers, along with probably real ordnance.

The Reds are well organized and well funded. Those in the zone are paid 800-1000 baht a day, which is a lot of money for a country boy.

Even supposing there really are 5,000 reds left, if you saw the number of soldiers here, there is little chance its gonna go outside the box. Water cannon trucks have been parked in many locations outside the outer perimeter. Tourists risk running into the many coils (un-deployed, but prepositioned) of razor wire set up all over the city in case its needed. (even as far as Asok)
There has been an exceptional amount of planning and contingency in Bangkok.

It is unfortunate so much of foreign media is blowing a lot out of proportion. Even the maps at BBC are not accurate, having walked those lines.

This thing is as much a PR campaign using media as it is location based thing. I can't think of a better choreographed drama in the west. Its careful, it is calculated and it is more or less restrained. Thai military is mostly just shooting without aiming at anything, hence the stray bullets and few casualties. Soldiers are carrying serious firepower, of the most modern available.

Thanks for the update Nauskas!

[QUOTE=Nauskas]...
I can't think of a better choreographed drama in the west.
...
[/QUOTE]Guys,

There is a major gunfire / battle right now happening in Lumpini park. Since approximately 40 min. . "Perfectly choreographed by the west."

I know that I don't know Thailand. And I am definitely not a specialist in military tactics. I have anyway no idea what all this is all about. Stupid me!

[B]But you guys better stay in your hotels![/B]


Giotto

From another blog, 7 min. ago:

From friends at Maneeya Bldg, "Trapped inside the office. Gun fire, snipers and explosions very close now" /via @agnesdherbeys

Sala Daeng Update: "Serious gun-battle going on at end of Lumpini Park Intersection (to Sathorn)" /via @agnesdherbeys

Urgent: Belgium embassy closing on Monday. "The embassy is not far from the areas where the violence is taking place". /AFP

Urgent: "For security reasons, it has been decided that the embassy will close Monday", a Belgian foreign ministry spokesman said.

Sala-Daeng Update: 6 explosions and gunfires heard from my place in suan plu. Sound like it came from rama 4. /via @polanskiman

Update: 2 separate firefights going on within Bangkok. Phetburi/Ploen-chit area & Sala-Daeng (In the last 15 minutes). AVOID

'31' people have died, '230' have been injured in the Thai capital during 3 days of violent clashes, emergency services said Sunday. /AFP

Update: The violence has claimed 61 lives and injured about 1,700 people since mass demonstrations began in Bangkok in mid-March /AFP

.....

Most of the actual problem zones are OUTSIDE of the restricted zone around Rajprasong intersection!



Giotto

veen_NT: RT @vaitor: rama 4 gasoline tank on fire... people going crazy because they think everythings exploding any minute
Sunday, 16 May, 2010 11:32:13 PM

veen_NT: The gasoline tank report happened around 30 mins ago - will bring you update.
Sunday, 16 May, 2010 11:35:07 PM

tulsathit: RT @captainwreid: @tulsathit Sounds like major gunfight happening in Rangnam/ Victory monument
Sunday, 16 May, 2010 11:37:29 PM

That's only the information from The Nation Blog of the past few minutes, on a Sunday close to midnight.

[i]- Perfectly choreagraphed by the west
- Its careful, it is calculated and it is more or less restrained.[/i]

Not!

Guys ... make up your own mind, I am really tired. I don't need any discussions about this issue.


Giotto

[QUOTE=Giotto]Guys, There is a major gunfire / battle right now happening in Lumpini park. Since approximately 40 min. . Perfectly choreagraphed by the west. I know that I don't know Thailand. And I definitely are not a specialist in military tactics. I have anyway no idea what all this is all about. Stupid me!
[B]But you guys better stay in your hotels![/B]Giotto[/QUOTE]Good advice!

From what I saw and photographed today, the 'green shirts' are not fuckin' around!

[QUOTE=Nauskas]...
The Reds are well organized and well funded. Those in the zone are paid 800-1000 baht a day, which is a lot of money for a country boy.
...
[/QUOTE]Nauskas,

Sorry, if I will meet an idiot within the next few days will call him Nauskas.

I have been in the "red zone" many times during the past weeks and talked to the red shirts. Yes, there are some which are paid to be there. Especially before the 10.04., when 27 people were killed. Some of the people staying over night were paid.

I cannot give an estimation about how many were paid - but I am quite sure that even then it was not more than 25 % of the crowd.

After the 10.04. the situation changed dramatically. I could understand the argumentation that there are some "strange" groups now which have joined the demonstrations, groups that would also do their job for the yellow shirts. I would definitely agree with that.

[b]But not many are willing to take the risk to get killed for being paid a bit for staying at Rajprasong Intersection under the actual circumstances.[/b]

I am definitely critical towards the political intention of the red shirts, and I think they gave away the chance for a compromise last week.

But to simply talk bullshit does not help anybody!


Giotto

A lot of thanks to Field Commander Giotto spending so much of his time for frequent updates and analyses !

LP for the many

[QUOTE=Giotto]Guys,



[B]But you guys better stay in your hotels![/B]


Giotto[/QUOTE]
Overreaction big time! If you're in the Suk area, no need to stay indoors. Go out and get laid for god's sake! Geeeeeeez!!!!!!!!!

What I don't get in all of this is the tactic of the military/government. What are they thinking, if at all, in terms of riot-control:

1. First they let the Reds establish fortified camps for weeks, let them secure infrastructure such as food, water, supplies, telecom etc.
2. Then they send these nervous 18 yr. old recruits with M16s to do what? To shoot and kill? Practically unarmed civilians, throwing New Year's firecrackers?

What options do you have in dispersing and dissolving crowds if you carry a M16? Conditions such as these are dissolved with water cannons and tear gas, and other non-lethal techniques, maybe rubber bullets, but not with weapons meant to fight a military conflict. This is stupid, but again, TIT.

[QUOTE=Amjeck]Overreaction big time! If you're in the Suk area, no need to stay indoors. Go out and get laid for god's sake! Geeeeeeez!!!!!!!!![/QUOTE]Damned,

why am I doing all this?

We have the pre-defined hot zone around Rajprasong Intersection (Google map) - guys, let's go out, Saxophone, a good Blues/Jazz bar at Victory Monument. Have your beer, and then try to go home - and suddenly there are some problems there - everybody is hiding in some corners. Yes, that's an overreaction. Shootings, one dead ...

I also heard some rumours today, that some [b]Thai military officers[/b] recommended to some guests to move from a hotel in Soi 19 up Sukhumvit! I did not write about that, because I don't want anybody to believe that I write here to fill up Livingstone's Lodge!

Fact is that everybody expected problems today in the hot zone around Rajprasong, but we had problem today in

- Rama IV
- Bon Kai
- Klong Toey
- Pratunam
- Victory Monument
- Rachadapisek Road
- Petburi Road
- Thon Buri Bridge
- Saladaeng
- Lumpini Park
- Din Daeng intersection
- some more smaller problems

We have since a few hours State of Emergency in 5 more states, in the North-East. In some areas serious problems.

We have new "holidays" tomorrow and the day after.

The stock market will be closed tomorrow.

What the hell do you people think is going on here? And - [b]yes, nothing happened up to now in the lower Sukhumvit area[/b] - but do you really want me to write that I think it is a safe zone?

No, I will not! I think as a family father - so, better stay in your hotels at the moment!

Damned shit!!!


Giotto

Giotto, thanks for your efforts to keep us informed. I think that you are providing more accurate and up to date information than any other source available. And very good advice.

Some folks just don't or won't understand how volatile and dangerous this type of situation is. I've been at a street party where it changed from a friendly good time to a violent, destructive riot in a matter of seconds.

Risky behavior is exciting.

Suddenly getting caught up in out of control violence sucks.

It CAN happen to you!

[QUOTE=Naughty]...
It CAN happen to you![/QUOTE]Thanks, Naughty,

May be you found the better words than I did.

Very tired.


Giotto

PS:

To all who know it better:

This is a lose-lose situation for both government and red shirts. The government is under enormous pressure because of the sniper killings, and the red shirts know they cannot win a fight against the army. If the army really decides to clear Rajprasong they WILL present pictures about weapons found there - whether they really found those weapons there or not does not matter - the pictures will be presented and will be published in the international press. Not sure, whether the world will believe or not ...

Now - if two seriously involved parties cannot win a fight - who is the the winner, who benefits of this development?

It is definitely possible that a third party is playing the game - and we all don't know what these people are going to do next!

[QUOTE=Giotto]We have new "holidays" tomorrow and the day after.

The stock market will be closed tomorrow.

What the hell do you people think is going on here? And - [b]yes, nothing happened up to now in the lower Sukhumvit area[/b] - but do you really want me to write that I think it is a safe zone?
Giotto[/QUOTE]

No, indeed! Let's not be childish. And I mean "childish" literally, because children don't understand the concept of risk. Daddy says something's dangerous, a child decides to do it nevertheless (when dad's not looking) and... hey, nothing bad happens. Weeeee! It just shows daddy's wrong!

Surely the Red Shirts, with the government's noose tightening around their necks and the showdown, apparently, timed for Monday and Tuesday, perceive two strong incentives: (1) break out of their enclave and fight their way through; (2) get their supporters from elsewhere in Thailand into BKK to open a couple of other fronts. If scenario (1) materialises then the lower Sukhumvit area is at risk. If scenario (2) materialises then everywhere is at risk.

[QUOTE=Frankfurter]What I don't get in all of this is the tactic of the military/government. What are they thinking, if at all, in terms of riot-control:

1. First they let the Reds establish fortified camps for weeks, let them secure infrastructure such as food, water, supplies, telecom etc.
2. Then they send these nervous 18 yr. old recruits with M16s to do what? To shoot and kill? Practically unarmed civilians, throwing New Year's firecrackers?

What options do you have in dispersing and dissolving crowds if you carry a M16? Conditions such as these are dissolved with water cannons and tear gas, and other non-lethal techniques, maybe rubber bullets, but not with weapons meant to fight a military conflict. This is stupid, but again, TIT.[/QUOTE]
This is spot on...what really frightens me is if the army send in armoured vehicles to break down the barriers.
What a way to screw up my holiday :-(((

So I am not in Bkk or anywhere near. And I have tried to read the international news. BBC, CNN and so on. I have gone to Bangkok Post, all to find real information about what goes on on the ground in Bangkok.

Then I got the idea to look here, and lo and behold if Giotto isn't providing short and specific information way more precise than waht have seen anywhere else.

Thank you Giotto for that

And all good thoughts to all you folks in Bkk at the moment. Keep safe, will you!

[QUOTE=Giotto]

What the hell do you people think is going on here? And - [b]yes, nothing happened up to now in the lower Sukhumvit area[/b] - but do you really want me to write that I think it is a safe zone?

No, I will not! I think as a family father - so, better stay in your hotels at the moment!

[/QUOTE]
I don't think guys came from across the world to sit in hotel room. I think lower suk is safe, I'm out there everynight. Lots of troops and police with guns about.

Nana gogo girls selling it for 1000ST.

The army needs to do a better job of ridding the streets of the low life "reds", however.

[QUOTE=Naughty]Giotto, thanks for your efforts to keep us informed. I think that you are providing more accurate and up to date information than any other source available. [/QUOTE]
You're info is valuable and appreciated. I just think telling guys to stay in their hotel rooms is a little over the top. Seize this opportunity and take advantage of the deals out there.

[QUOTE=Amjeck]I don't think guys came from across the world to sit in hotel room. I think lower suk is safe, I'm out there everynight. Lots of troops and police with guns about. [/QUOTE]
Might well be "safe" according to your standard, but nobody with sense in his mind would walk around as a tourist, to say the least, with "lots of troops with guns about"
BTW: mongering is an activity one can realy and easily do...in trhe hotel room!

[QUOTE=Amjeck]
Nana gogo girls selling it for 1000ST.
[/QUOTE] Sorry but I do not think their rates can be taken as an account of "business as usual"

[QUOTE=Amjeck]
The army needs to do a better job of ridding the streets of the low life "reds", however.[/QUOTE]and do you think that in doing that, seen also the recent escalation, they will take too much carfe in differentiating people?
and don't you think that some "bad boy" can try to mix with "good boys" ?

I am not in BKK but I think Giotto's advise is full of common sense.

[QUOTE=Nauskas]It was an M-224 that was noted to have been used. Most likely it is old stuff with a range under 1.5 km. (Asok is beyond the spots like Sala Daeng or the box) Considering the reds are mostly packing sling shots, bows and arrows and fire crackers, it doesn't seem useful to blow it out of proportion.[/QUOTE]Thing about a mortar is, if it's not used by a SKILLED crew, it's not that accurate. I'd imagine the home made ones even more inaccurate. And they are portable (6omm type), easily hidden until it pops out, bloops off a couple of rounds in the GENERAL direction of the target, then gone. Unless you've got direct observation, or a radar that can backplot, difficult to find.

[QUOTE=Naughty]Some folks just don't or won't understand how volatile and dangerous this type of situation is. I've been at a street party where it changed from a friendly good time to a violent, destructive riot in a matter of seconds.

Risky behavior is exciting.

Suddenly getting caught up in out of control violence sucks.

It CAN happen to you![/QUOTE]Have seen that myself, AMAZING how things can change so quickly. Or sweep over you...

[QUOTE=Amjeck]Lots of troops and police with guns about.[/QUOTE]Some people see safety, others targets...

[QUOTE=Giotto]why am I doing all this?[/QUOTE]Appreciated, to have an experienced source reporting. Myself, if I was in Bangkok, I'd be using my mobile and the contacts I collected for "rainy" days...

I'm with Amjeck. You guys are a bunch of drama queens. I was there in the red zone at the blockade a few weeks ago the night the RPG's were fired about 100m away from me. I was going to Patpong for a BJ. I still managed to cross the road from the reds side to the yellow and back after a few beers in a gogo.

Ok I would not go down into that area now but to say to stay away from Nana or Soi Cowboy is just scare mongering.

[QUOTE=Shadow6491]
Ok I would not go down into that area now but to say to stay away from Nana or Soi Cowboy is just scare mongering.[/QUOTE]
I went to Soi Cowboy last night (Sunday) without any problems. The Soi was a bit quiet outside.

Not many customers, so I had all the girls eager.
Many girls are down to their last 100 Baht, so its easy to help them out with a couple of drinks, a tip, or better still a barfine booking.
Many new girls at Suzi Wong and a couple of lookers too.

The lezzie show was on rather late at about 10.30PM when the bar had a few customers.

I took two girls from the lezzie show and had a really nice threesome for the night. Lucky they were slim girls and could fit 3 in the bed.

[QUOTE=Daddy San]It may not be the place you mean, but Nippon Kai on Soi 33, about 100m on the right as you walk from Suk, is a place i like.[/QUOTE]
I found Nippon Kai to be rather ordinary, actually. They seemed to be more interested to sell expensive cocktails than really great food.

Please advise the general riot situation or observances in Bangkok. Is lower Sukhumvit safe? I will appreciate guidance from members.

Last night there was an RPG attack in Dusit hotel. The 17th floor is said to be on fire.

It's relatively quite right now, though helicopter are in the air.

Remember: [b]The Governments ultimatum to the red shirts to leave Rajprasong is set to 3 pm today![/b]


Giotto

PS (12:45):

German:

UPDATE DER DEUTSCHEN BOTSCHAFT BANGKOK Nach letzten Informationen ist das Ultimatum für heute 15.00 Uhr sehr ernst zu nehmen. Falls Sie sich derzeit in Bangkok aufhalten bleiben Sie bitte zu Hause oder im Hotel.

English:

Update from German Embassy Bangkok: The set ultimatum 3 pm should be taken seriously. If you are in Bangkok please stay at home or in the hotel.

[QUOTE=Winny49]Please advise the general riot situation or observances in Bangkok. Is lower Sukhumvit safe? I will appreciate guidance from members.[/QUOTE]Probably best to stay somewhere up around Soi Cowboy (Asoke Road -- Soi 23). I stayed there this past weekend and it is fairly untouched by the present troubles. There are good internet deals on hotels. The Emporium (up near Soi 33) is open for shopping, food and movies. Lots of pretty girls in the go-go bars and FS massage shops, too!

The mood is definitely tenser down around Nana / Soi 4.

[QUOTE=Shadow6491]I'm with Amjeck. You guys are a bunch of drama queens. I was there in the red zone at the blockade a few weeks ago the night the RPG's were fired about 100m away from me. I was going to Patpong for a BJ. I still managed to cross the road from the reds side to the yellow and back after a few beers in a gogo.

Ok I would not go down into that area now but to say to stay away from Nana or Soi Cowboy is just scare mongering.[/QUOTE]
I guess we're the only die hard mongers left!

[QUOTE=Syzygies]

I took two girls from the lezzie show and had a really nice threesome for the night. Lucky they were slim girls and could fit 3 in the bed.[/QUOTE]
How much did you pay?

All girls in Nana are taking 1000ST now. Hopefully it will drop to 500 soon. The tables have turned! Its about time!

How can you not feel safe with a bunch of 18 year old kids with guns protecting you! Things are getting creepier right now - lots of places closed, hard to get money as the FX booths are closed and many ATMs are out of money. Not a lot of people on Sukhumvit and barbed wire across the Soi 11 sidewalk. I saw a bunch of army guys hiding behind columns and was wondering why. Part of me wants to go to Pattaya and another part wants to see how this all plays out.

[QUOTE=Amjeck]I don't think guys came from across the world to sit in hotel room. I think lower suk is safe, I'm out there everynight. Lots of troops and police with guns about.

Nana gogo girls selling it for 1000ST.

The army needs to do a better job of ridding the streets of the low life "reds", however.[/QUOTE]Most of the girls you are shagging at greatly reduced rates are 'low-life reds'.

Of course the army top brass might decide it wouldn't matter if some of the low-life sex tourists were accidentally taken out...

Latest Google Map of problem areas:

[URL]http://maps.google.co.th/maps/ms?hl=en&ie=UTF8&msa=0&msid=116480606892254086046.0004817fafbb87b0951c0&ll=13.743804,100.541897&spn=0.057444,0.077162&z=14[/URL]

[QUOTE=Mouse1]Most of the girls you are shagging at greatly reduced rates are 'low-life reds'.

Of course the army top brass might decide it wouldn't matter if some of the low-life sex tourists were accidentally taken out...[/QUOTE]


I think that would have a longer term effect on the hand that feeds. You see a lot of people have all ready changes plans to the Philippines becauseof the problems there. I hear about sex tourisit getting taken out the change might be for good. Why it is never a good idea to bit the hand that feeds you, seems the government knows that better then some posters do.

[QUOTE=Freetime]I think that would have a longer term effect on the hand that feeds. You see a lot of people have all ready changes plans to the Philippines becauseof the problems there. I hear about sex tourisit getting taken out the change might be for good. Why it is never a good idea to bit the hand that feeds you, seems the government knows that better then some posters do.[/QUOTE]Yes, I wasn't really suggesting this might happen. I was just indirectly expressing my 'irritation' at anybody who hopes for more bloodshed to bring the price of sex down, particularly if it involves the death or injury of any of my friends or their families in Thailand. Irony - it's a British thing.

Reminds me of another poster in the Indian forum who was rejoicing when a whole load of female flight attendants were laid off, because he thought they would be out walking the streets for his pleasure. Low life indeed.

My hotel told me today situation was unchanged. The 3 pm event was cancelled. I could go out everywhere exept to West of soi 2. The army check point behind my hotel is removed. The 7-11 on soi 4 is now covered with newspapers, so no one can see it. (I think this is to prevent looting, as the red shirts had their food supply cut off). Several 7-11 in the rally area were looted the last days. Also ATM machines.

[QUOTE=Amjeck]I don't think guys came from across the world to sit in hotel room. I think lower suk is safe, I'm out there everynight. Lots of troops and police with guns about.

Nana gogo girls selling it for 1000ST.

The army needs to do a better job of ridding the streets of the low life "reds", however.[/QUOTE]

Arrived in Lamai on Ko Samui yesterday and had an excellent LT with 3 pops for 1000B. However I did her bareback, so life her is quite dangerous as well. And a dog barked at me while running on the beach today.

Looks as if it will stay quiet tonight.

There are intensive negotiations ongoing in the background. The Government will most likely NOT crackdown on the demonstration tonight.


Giotto

Let’s see whether I get this right:

If you as a white male don’t belong to the 2% of punters who will ever have a shot at a well-educated, affluent, “white” TG from a good family, maybe even running her own company in กรุงเทพมหานคร you most likely will enjoy your time with a -often- dark-skinned beauty from Isaan, meaning from a region some Thais even don’t consider being part of the “real” Thailand. (They refer to that province as “Lao”, or worse. They despise the Red Shirts and they despise the region. In fact, everything outside of กรุงเทพมหานคร is greatly suspect, maybe except for the Thai Flying Club in Bang Pra and the Country Club.)

We as hobbyist have, or had, more contacts with the Red Shirts presently and in the past than you might want to acknowledge.

The folks on the other side of the discussion- yellow shirts, high class, private schools, universities etc.- despise people from the poor rural northeast, their country music, dark skin, inability to “speak well” etc. All of you mongers who ever took your BG shopping at Paragon or Gaysorn plaza during the day knows what I am talking about: The looks, comments, disrespect of the sales people, most of them not even more educated, or more affluent, then the BG, but all with perfectly (bleached) white skin. It is so ironic that the Red’s camp is exactly at that intersection!

Now, the rural poor from Isaan are fed up with this crony system, and guess what, they are coming to the heart of the city demanding a better life. Maybe one not so distant day they are also fed up serving us.

[QUOTE=Mouse1]Most of the girls you are shagging at greatly reduced rates are 'low-life reds'.

Of course the army top brass might decide it wouldn't matter if some of the low-life sex tourists were accidentally taken out...[/QUOTE]
Yes, they are and to keep them out of power and poor is good for us mongers.

I don't think the army is aiming their guns at tourists.

[QUOTE=Frankfurter]
Now, the rural poor from Isaan are fed up with this crony system, and guess what, they are coming to the heart of the city demanding a better life. [/QUOTE]
Is that the real reason they came to bkk to protest? Maybe a deeper look into things will reveal the truth.

[QUOTE=Amjeck]Yes, they are and to keep them out of power and poor is good for us mongers.[/QUOTE]You should give us a list of good venues for cheap pussy. Haiti, Sierra Leone, Burma, Somalia, Tibet, Equatorial Guinea... I'll bet Sarajevo would have been a blast. Wherever there is human misery there goes someone with a big swinging dick...

[QUOTE=Amjeck]Is that the real reason they came to bkk to protest? Maybe a deeper look into things will reveal the truth.[/QUOTE]What? They've come to protest about the international conspiracy orchestrated by the UN to impose a one-world government led by an international cabal of bankers? Or perhaps something a little more prosaic, like equality and justice?

[QUOTE=Mouse1]What? They've come to protest about the international conspiracy orchestrated by the UN to impose a one-world government led by an international cabal of bankers? Or perhaps something a little more prosaic, like equality and justice?[/QUOTE]
Hmmm... Mr. T

[QUOTE=Mouse1]Most of the girls you are shagging at greatly reduced rates are 'low-life reds'.

Of course the army top brass might decide it wouldn't matter if some of the low-life sex tourists were accidentally taken out...[/QUOTE]


Interesting to see the comment " Low life reds'

Somehow I doubt many of us mongers come from Royal heritage.

My best Thai experience was with an Isaan girl who was cute, fun and a great lay.

Those qualities are all I really need.



Giotto

Thanks for the real life updates. See you in December.

Guido88

Went over to Cowboy and Nana tonight in hopes of getting lower prices for girls because of all this nonsense. I did the same when the airport closed and was able to snag girls from cowboy for 1,000 ST and 1500 LT. Alas that was not the case tonight. Went to Cowboy first - Baccara and Tilac. Despite the bars being virtually empty (maybe 10 punters in each) the prices are the same! 2,000 baht for ST and they would not come down! Am I really that repulsive? I'm just average looking but I guess these girls aren't desperate enough to come down on the price - they wouldn't even take 1500 ST despite the bars being virtually empty. Oh well. Went over to Nana. Rainbow 4, Spanky's, and I did the perimeter around the bottom bars and just asked a few girls point blank. Nope - 2,000 ST was the standard at all venues - even the beer bars downstairs. So I guess these girls aren't desperate enough just yet!

On a side note, I was able to barfine a girl out of Spanky's and paid her 1200 baht for ST but that was only because I know her - sweet thing named "Boo".

[QUOTE=Mangofan]Went over to Cowboy and Nana tonight in hopes of getting lower prices for girls because of all this nonsense. I did the same when the airport closed and was able to snag girls from cowboy for 1,000 ST and 1500 LT. Alas that was not the case tonight. Went to Cowboy first - Baccara and Tilac. Despite the bars being virtually empty (maybe 10 punters in each) the prices are the same! 2,000 baht for ST and they would not come down! Am I really that repulsive? I'm just average looking but I guess these girls aren't desperate enough to come down on the price - they wouldn't even take 1500 ST despite the bars being virtually empty. Oh well. Went over to Nana. Rainbow 4, Spanky's, and I did the perimeter around the bottom bars and just asked a few girls point blank. Nope - 2,000 ST was the standard at all venues - even the beer bars downstairs. So I guess these girls aren't desperate enough just yet!

On a side note, I was able to barfine a girl out of Spanky's and paid her 1200 baht for ST but that was only because I know her - sweet thing named "Boo".[/QUOTE]
I experienced the same, but ONLY tonight. I noticed that there were a lot of japanese punters out early grabbing the best meat, and we all know what they pay.

Another thing is the the bars may have less customers, but they also have less girls. Lots of girls aren't showing up to work.

I've grabbed a chick from nana for 1000ST the OTHER DAY and a few others agreed at 1000ST also, but I couldn't take all of them.

The whole pussy vibe in BKK is a bit depressing now. Time to move on.

Just found this in a travel forum. Some pictures from my playground.

[url]http://picasaweb. Google.com/dlheyman/20100517Sukhumvit? Authkey=Gv1sRgCOyE1O_e68rc2QE&feat=directlink#[/url]

Although it's day time pictures. Seems awfully quiet (few people). Was wandering if it is like this at night. Will be there next month.

Hope things get back to normal soon.

I'm crippled up and needed to get out for a night, so my buddy assisted me over to the Cowboy on Saturday night. Hit one bar in the middle and enjoyed with staff as it had been a while since we had been there. Many attemps to get me in the naughty corner. Looks like anything went, maybe because the police are busy.

My buddy kept popping into the bars to check if easy for me to get in, all were pretty much dead, except Tilac. Was hoping to get an easy seat in Tilac.

So just sat outside drinking beers and watching the little traffic that went by. Very quiet for a Sat. night. Should of checked prices...

Does anybody know if the Nana Parking Lot Meat Market is still active after the Nana bars close?

[QUOTE=Jimbehr2000]Does anybody know if the Nana Parking Lot Meat Market is still active after the Nana bars close?[/QUOTE]

I was there last night around 1 am - about 10 girls out front. No discounts - 1,000 baht is still the going rate despite there being very few punters.

It was a quiet day today - thanks god.

There are rumours out there in Rajprasong that the army will make a move around 5 am, 19.05.2010.


Giotto

[QUOTE=Giotto]It was a quiet day today - thanks god.

There are rumours out there in Rajprasong that the army will make a move around 5 am, 19.05.2010.

Giotto[/QUOTE]I wonder if they have.

Hi will be arriving in LOS Friday.

Was wondering if the stall holders are out trading as usual between Nana and Asoke. Would thier presence indicate a degree of comfort that the situation is contained up the other end of town?

Also has anyone been to the BG last few days. Anyone around?

Thanks

[QUOTE=Frankfurter]All of you mongers who ever took your BG shopping at Paragon or Gaysorn plaza during the day knows what I am talking about: The looks, comments, disrespect of the sales people, most of them not even more educated, or more affluent, then the BG, but all with perfectly (bleached) white skin. It is so ironic that the Red’s camp is exactly at that intersection!
[/QUOTE]

What are you talking about??? Have you tried taking a Hooker shopping in the west? if people in the west know she is a hooker, you will get the same looks, comments, disrespect. It is just more obvious in Thailand because all the white buffalos (us) always feel the need to take the poor little brown girl our for food or gifts.
Don't blame other Thais for the looks/comments... it's just not in their culture to take prostitutes out to shopping.

The army is moving in on the demonstration, breaking through the barricades at Saladaeng / Lumpini Park.

The operation started around 7 am this morning.

Pictures:

[URL]http://twitpic.com/1ozuct [/URL]
[URL]http://tweetphoto.com/22995406[/URL]
[URL]http://tweetphoto.com/22997815[/URL]
[URL]http://tweetphoto.com/22998502[/URL]
[URL]http://images.scribblelive.com/2010/5/18/cbf69b27-ffdd-44f9-9ae4-1576f11f2586_400.jpg[/URL]
[URL]http://tweetphoto.com/23002894[/URL]
[URL]http://tweetphoto.com/23002909[/URL]
[URL]http://yfrog.com/50m36j[/URL]
[URL]http://tweetphoto.com/22996865[/URL]
[URL]http://tweetphoto.com/23003989[/URL]

Live coverage on CNN.

Found on a blog:

[b]Be careful Sukhumwit
Many areas in and around Sukhumvit - be dangerous - still keep at home due to army special forces shooting anywhere/anyone. [/b]

Google Map Street Battles:
[URL]http://maps.google.co.th/maps/ms?hl=en&ie=UTF8&msa=0&msid=116480606892254086046.0004817fafbb87b0951c0&ll=13.729568,100.54179&spn=0.014362,0.01929&z=16[/URL]

Al Jazeera Live Stream:
[URL]http://english.aljazeera.net/watch_now/[/URL]

TNN 24 Live Stream:
[URL]http://www.tnnthailand.com/live/live_low.html[/URL]


Giotto

[QUOTE=Iwannahumpalot]Hi will be arriving in LOS Friday.

Was wondering if the stall holders are out trading as usual between Nana and Asoke. Would thier presence indicate a degree of comfort that the situation is contained up the other end of town?

Also has anyone been to the BG last few days. Anyone around?

Thanks[/QUOTE]

Take a look at those pics that Tryntry posted and you'll see a tailor shop with boards on the windows, a lack of street stalls, Morning-Night bar closed. Not comforting.

[QUOTE=Giotto]The army is moving in on the demonstration, breaking through the barricades at Saladaeng / Lumpini Park. Giotto[/QUOTE]A few pictures from Lumpini Park at about 10am....

...and, one of a [i]farang[/i] TV news photographer being chased away at Khlong Toey this morning at about 7:30 am...

Things were getting very hot out there today.

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]Don't blame other Thais for the looks/comments... it's just not in their culture to take prostitutes out to shopping.[/QUOTE]True enough, and anyone who does better be prepared for the worst.

But the real problem is that the rich and wannabe-rich of Bangkok, especially the women, have an almost infinite capacity for snobbery. Anybody who doesn't meet their standards for skin color, height, dress, accent etc. is liable to be treated pretty badly, even if they have respectable jobs and even if they're not with farang males. Ask any new arrival from the countryside who's made the mistake of wandering into the 'wrong' shop or restaurant. I know one who was reduced to tears on her first day in Bangkok. So yes, I do blame them for that.

[u]2:10 pm:[/u]

Al Jazeera reports about fires in the lower Sukhumvit area.

Rajprasong Intersection empty, the red shirts left.

Black shirts seen shooting in that area.

3 red shirt leaders are on the run.

6 red shirt leaders surrendered to the police.

Din Daeng - heavy fighting.

Rumours about town houses raided by the red shirts in Khon Kaen and Udon. Governor calling for help / reinforcement.

[b]Remember - Sukhumvit road is one route to get out of the city from Rajprasong.[/b]


Giotto

from: [url]http://teakdoor.com/battle-for-bangkok-news/71964-battle-bangkok-19th-may-death-toll-11.html[/url]

[i][b]...tweets on Twitter[/b][/i]

RT [at]BKKApologist: The Klong Toei rally's crowd strength. Keep in mind it goes deeper than this. Here's a rough idea of the Klong Toei rally's crowd strength.... on Twitpic
half a minute ago via TweetDeck

RT [at]tulsathit: Sansern: Action was met with several acts of terrorism, casuing a lot of damage.
2 minutes ago via TweetDeck

Analysts say some investors bought on news the military had moved in to disperse anit-government protesters. (Reuters)
2 minutes ago via TweetDeck

Thai stock market, which closed early today, ends higher after protest crackdown. (Reuters)
3 minutes ago via TweetDeck

RT [at]veen_NT: Reds started burning tyres on Latprao near RamintrA Expressway, said an eyewitness.
4 minutes ago via TweetDeck

RT [at]beejoir: Fire all along Pleonchit, from Chidlom to Home Pro, its bad.
5 minutes ago via TweetDeck

Gunshots heard in Din Daeng now.
5 minutes ago via TweetDeck

TNN24 reporting that violence continues at Khlong Toei red shirt stage as they don't believe it is over.
6 minutes ago via TweetDeck

RT [at]thaicam: black smoke now in all directions from PLoenchit
6 minutes ago via TweetDeck

RT [at]nkoleszar: Heavy smoke from multiple fires now visible south of me. At least one appears to be at Rajavithi or Victory Monument.
7 minutes ago via TweetDeck

RT [at]markmackinnon: Getting a bit dangerous now around Chidlom
10 minutes ago via TweetDeck

see: [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrumsBhRe24[/url]

[URL]http://www.bangkokpost.com/breakingnews/178438/reds-dissatisfied-run-amok[/URL]

Please be aware, that it can be dangerous out there, nobody knows where the dispersed reds including the "men in black" are popping up next.


Giotto

[QUOTE=Giotto][URL]http://www.bangkokpost.com/breakingnews/178438/reds-dissatisfied-run-amok[/URL]

Please be aware, that it can be dangerous out there, nobody knows where the dispersed reds including the "men in black" are popping up next.


Giotto[/QUOTE]
Sad..... just so sad to see Thais killing Thais.

So much anger, so much hate, so much cruelty - from mere cannon fodder being played by so few.

Land of smiles, Land of Anger, Land of Tears

So sad.

SEAJ

Bengkok Post closed and evacuated.

Their web site has also just crashed.

TOFM

Outside Bangkok:

[URL]http://memock.wordpress.com/[/URL]

[u]3:45 pm[/u]

Useful blog:

[URL]http://twitter.com/RichardBarrow[/URL]

[b]Stock market is on fire (Asoke/Queen Sirikit Park)![/b]

[b]Channel 3 Building on fire.[/b]


Giotto

[b][size=+2]Curfew 8pm May 19 to 6am May20[/size][/b]
Wednesday, 19 May, 2010 4:07:36 PM


Giotto

Looks like negotiation might have been a better idea?

see photos (from the web)...

What was asshole Thaksin's political party called??? Thai-Rak-Thai (Thais Love Thais)??? Bullshit!!! I can't believe he let this happen. Someone should put a bullet in this guys head. I never hated anybody, but I hate this guy. He is destroying a country that I love and enjoy travelling to. I wish everyone on the ground there in Thailand the best of luck.

Here is another link that might help keep everyone updated.

[url]http://live.reuters.com/Event/Bangkok_protests[/url]

[QUOTE=Phuquer]What was asshole Thaksin's political party called??? Thai-Rak-Thai (Thais Love Thais)??? Bullshit!!! I can't believe he let this happen. Someone should put a bullet in this guys head. I never hated anybody, but I hate this guy. He is destroying a country that I love and enjoy travelling to. I wish everyone on the ground there in Thailand the best of luck.[/QUOTE]

It is far more complex than that! Thaksin was corrupt, trampled human rights in every which way, but at least he paid attention to the poor, even if it might have been an election ploy. The Yellows are just as bad, arguably worse since they never paid attention to the poor and even look down on them, going as far as calling for an end to one-man one vote rule in some cases. As the elite(s) are going to steal anyway, the only viable solution is for the elite(s) (Yellow and Red) to steal 90% instead of 99%.
Thailand is going to have to get its act together. Bangkok might be clear (or about to be cleared) of the redshirts but the provinces in the North will be restive. There has to be a compromise.

A recent list of the fires/damages:

1. Siam Square, on fire (rumour)
2. Paragon, smaller fire in front
3. Centara Grand: fire under control
4. Stock Exchange of Thailand office: on fire
5. Mahachon Plaza (entrance of Wireless Rd-Ploenchit Rd): on fire
6. Krung Thai and Bangkok Bank (Asoke Branch): on fire
7. Narcotics Control Board: on fire
8. Bangkok Bank (Din Daeng): fire under control
9. Maleenont Building: on fire
10. Bangkok Bank and Lotus Rama 4: on fire
11. EGAT Klongtoey: fire under control
12. Central World: seriously on fire, several storeys burnung



Giotto

[QUOTE=Phuquer]What was asshole Thaksin's political party called??? Thai-Rak-Thai (Thais Love Thais)??? Bullshit!!! I can't believe he let this happen. Someone should put a bullet in this guys head. I never hated anybody, but I hate this guy. He is destroying a country that I love and enjoy travelling to. I wish everyone on the ground there in Thailand the best of luck.[/QUOTE]


The vast majority of Thai people were better off under Thaksin than under the Abhisit government.

Thaksin concentrated wealth into his and his cronies hands, and took care of the underclass.

The yellow coalition government concentrates wealth into a whole elite class of people and they ruthlessly exploit the other 98%.

By the metric of overall economic growth, Abhisit is more succesful. By the metric of overall well being of the population, Thaksin was.

Do you love the sex and partying, or the people?

What is a nation?

Is Thaksin destroying your party spot, or is the greed of the yellows and their refusal to share the nations wealth with its people really at fault?

I personally don't know which approach is better in the long term, but I surely don't see how this disastrous cataclysm will be better than just continuing to work at a solution peacefully, or even just dissolving and holding an election so the people could decide democratically would have been.

There will be years, perhaps decades of conflict and insurgency now. The genie is out and no one, neither Abhisit or the Red's will get it back in the bottle for a long time now.

I weep for Siam.

[QUOTE=Naughty]The vast majority of Thai people were better off under Thaksin than under the Abhisit government.[/QUOTE]Please, could you take this elsewhere? There's a 'Thai politics' section under the Thai expat forum that welcomes this kind of post, no matter how misinformed. More than ever, this forum needs to be devoted to practical matters that affect us in Bangkok right now.

[QUOTE=Betong]...no matter how misinformed.[/QUOTE]


But Betong, you got your political fling in here too!

The pot is calling the kettle black!

[QUOTE=Naughty]But Betong, you got your political fling in here too![/QUOTE]Hey, just a statement of what goes on in that forum, not accusing anyone ;-)

[QUOTE=Betong]More than ever, this forum needs to be devoted to practical matters that affect us in Bangkok right now.[/QUOTE]The only thing practical in Bangkok right now is keeping one's ass alive. I was out in Khlong Toey this morning and I can definitely say there was an [i]anti-farang[/i] sentiment in the air.

The masked guys in these photos were breaking out the glass at the MRT station. The photographer was trying to film it. Later the MRT station was set on fire.

[QUOTE=Naughty]
Do you love the sex and partying, or the people?

[/QUOTE]
I love the SEX and I hope it gets cheaper. Love the people? Nope! They certainly don't love us!

[QUOTE=Amjeck]I love the SEX and I hope it gets cheaper. Love the people? Nope! They certainly don't love us![/QUOTE]Yes, now we know why!

[QUOTE=Naughty]The vast majority of Thai people were better off under Thaksin than under the Abhisit government.

Thaksin concentrated wealth into his and his cronies hands, and took care of the underclass.

The yellow coalition government concentrates wealth into a whole elite class of people and they ruthlessly exploit the other 98%.

By the metric of overall economic growth, Abhisit is more succesful. By the metric of overall well being of the population, Thaksin was.

Do you love the sex and partying, or the people?

What is a nation?

Is Thaksin destroying your party spot, or is the greed of the yellows and their refusal to share the nations wealth with its people really at fault?

I personally don't know which approach is better in the long term, but I surely don't see how this disastrous cataclysm will be better than just continuing to work at a solution peacefully, or even just dissolving and holding an election so the people could decide democratically would have been.

There will be years, perhaps decades of conflict and insurgency now. The genie is out and no one, neither Abhisit or the Red's will get it back in the bottle for a long time now.

I weep for Siam.[/QUOTE]Fuck me. Vast majority? Who's suckin your dick and tellin you it's big?

I have lived in Thailand since 1982. You're right, you don't know, so keep your yap shut. Every single death involved in this latest go-round belongs on Thaksin's head. Period.

The genie was out of the bottle when Thaksin started lying about his "best friend", then Prime Minister, 'Chuan Leekpai'. Thaksin easily paid off the media to make it all believable. This butt ugly elementary school diorama was pasted on the wall a long long time ago Naughty. Thaskin is a moron, a fact obviously assessed long before you got here, stupid rich does not equal stupid smart. (His wife is a conniving ho.)

Now, talk about what you know.

History lesson: Pre WW2, Isaan had all the money from old style rice farming and treated the rest of Thailand like shit. Do your homework and report back (I. E. Paybacks are rough, and so are blackshirt snipers: "A cop is always a cop" Thaksin Shinawatra's tree snipers were his favorite way to deal with petty ya-ba dealers that talked too much. His good buddy cops were all on the take.)

Google Somchai Khunpluem and Vatana Asavahame. Thaksin's outside money men. The "Khamnan" had $100 million USD in the bank ready to disseminate to the "loyal" for just this last weekend. "Little money for big things. "

Good lord. Remember the famous words of the Thaksin's era? (Coined by his wife): "Turn crisis into an opportunity"

The 'crisis', in this here and now time period, involves over 40 deaths and over 1000 injured. Anyone with an IQ of 88 (the Thai norm) knows that Thaksin is famous for ignoring the law and fabricating the truth.

Don't get me started.

[QUOTE=Fon Tok]The only thing practical in Bangkok right now is keeping one's ass alive. I was out in Khlong Toey this morning and I can definitely say there was an [i]anti-farang[/i] sentiment in the air.

The masked guys in these photos were breaking out the glass at the MRT station. The photographer was trying to film it. Later the MRT station was set on fire.[/QUOTE]The reports on the BBC today talk about an anti-press sentiment. No mention of an anti-Westerner sentiment (and I can't see why there should be one?)

[QUOTE=Mouse1]The reports on the BBC today talk about an anti-press sentiment. No mention of an anti-Westerner sentiment (and I can't see why there should be one?)[/QUOTE]Funny, I didn't see anyone from the BBC.

This morning at Khlong Toey there was a very bad vibe, and I could hear what people were saying. I did not feel welcome at their street insurrection party. Animosity (toward foreigners) is something that your rarely feel directly from Thai people, although, many people who live here know it exists.

It's madness right now in Bangkok. Madness and violence. You can see it in people's eyes.

I heared that some parts of BKK the net is blocked?

PB

[QUOTE=Fon Tok]Funny, I didn't see anyone from the BBC.[/QUOTE]Rachel Harvey's reports have been so biased and poor that this is probably a good thing!

[QUOTE=Fon Tok] Animosity (toward foreigners) is something that your rarely feel directly from Thai people, although, many people who live here know it exists.

[/QUOTE]
Thais have always resented foreigners, but in peaceful times they hide it better.

don't blame dan rivers

by somtow sucharitkul

i have been composing a long, day by day account of the "troubles" of the last three days, which i have not yet posted. the reason is that i've been getting a lot of mail asking me to explain "the truth" to people overseas. a lot of people here are astonished and appalled at the level of irresponsibility and inaccuracy shown by such major news sources as cnn, and are imputing the most astonishing motives to this, such as suggesting that they're in the pay of thaksin and so on.

i don't think this is really what is going on. rather, i think that there are two basic problems: preconception and language.

cnn first became a force to be reckoned with during the "people power" movement in the philippines. the kind of coverage we had for this as amazing. there was a camera in every camp, and we could follow this exciting revolution every step of the way. we knew exactly who to root for: the oppressed masses led by the widow of the iconic aquino, and we knew that whenever president marcos appeared he was darth vader, the symbol of an evil empire. the arc of the story was simple and inexorable. a whole new way of looking at the news was born, with all the excitement of a tv miniseries and, prophetically, a reality show as well.

of course, many of the little details of the story were conveniently glossed over. reality was not — never is — so black and white. but there are three important things about this story: first, in its essentials, there was a lot of truth. and all the protagonists spoke english.

the philippines, as filipinos never tire of telling me, is the third most populous english speaking country in the world. we will leave the definition of "english-speaking" to another blog, but it's very important that the various sides in this conflict were able to articulate their viewpoints in a language which cnn well understood.

the third important thing about the story is that it fulfilled a vision of history that is an inseparable part of the inheritance of western culture, that is so ingrained in western thinking that it is virtually impossible for an educated member of western society to divorce himself from it.

it is a vision of history as a series of liberations. from harmodius and aristogeiton throwing off the tyrant's yoke to the removal of the tarquins and the establishment of the roman republic to the failed rebellion of spartacus, from magna carta to the bastille to the american civil war to the russian revolution, there is this platonic model against which these big historical movements are always compared. there is a bad guy — often a dictator — who can be demonized. there is a struggling proletariat. the end comes with "liberty and justice for all". this is star wars. the dark times. the empire.

the "people power" coverage was riveting, compelling, and contained all the emotional components of this mythical story arc. finding another such story, therefore, is a kind of holy grail for the international media. when a story comes that appears to contain some of the elements, and it's too much hard work to verify those elements or get all the background detail, you go with the great archetype of western civilization.

now, let us consider the redshirt conflict.

let's not consider what has actually been happening in thailand, but how it looks to someone whose worldview has been coloured with this particular view of history.

let's consider the fact that there is pretty much nothing being explained in english, and that there are perhaps a dozen foreigners who really understand thai thoroughly. i don't mean thai for shopping, bargirls, casual conversation and the like. thai is a highly ambiguous language and is particularly well suited for seeming to say opposite things simultaneously. to get what is really being said takes total immersion.

when you watch a red shirt rally, notice how many english signs and placards there are, and note that they they are designed to show that these are events conforming to the archetype. the placards say "democracy", "no violence," "stop killing innocent women and children" and so on. speakers are passionately orating, crowds are moved. but there are no subtitles. what does it look like?

the answer is obvious. it looks like oppressed masses demanding freedom from an evil dictator.

don't blame dan rivers, et al., who are only doing what they are paid to do: find the compelling story within the mass of incomprehensible data, match that story to what the audience already knows and believes, and make sure the advertising money keeps flowing in.

a vigorous counter-propaganda campaign in clear and simple english words of one syllable has always been lacking and is the reason the government is losing the pr war while actually following the most logical steps toward a real and lasting resolution.

if the foreign press were in fact able to speak thai well enough to follow all the reportage here coming from all sides, they would also be including some of the following information in their reports. i want to insist yet again that i am not siding with anyone. the following is just information that people really need before they write their news reports.

-- thaksin was democratically elected, but became increasingly undemocratic, and the country gradually devolved from a nation where oligarchs skimmed off the top to a kleptocracy of one. during his watch, thousands of people were summarily executed in the south of thailand and in a bizarre "war on drugs" in which body count was considered a marker of success.

-- the coup that ousted thaksin was of course completely illegal, but none of the people who carried it out are in the present government.

-- the yellow shirts' greatest error in moulding its international image was to elevate thaksin's corruption as its major bone of contention. thai governments have always been corrupt. the extent of corruption and the fact that much of it went into only one pocket was shocking to thais, but the west views all "second-rate countries" as being corrupt. had they used the human rights violations and muzzling of the press as their key talking points, the "heroic revolution" archetype would have been moulded with opposite protagonists, and cnn and bbc would be telling an opposite story today.

-- the constitution which was approved by a referendum after the coup and which brought back democracy was flawed, but it provided more checks and balances, and made election fraud a truly accountable offense for the first time.

-- the parliamentary process by which the democrat coalition came to power was the same process by which the lib dems and tories have attained power in britain. the parliament that voted in this government consists entirely of democratically elected members.

-- no one ever disputed the red shirts' right to peaceful assembly, and the government went out of its way to accede to their demands.

-- this country already has democracy. not a perfect one, but the idea of "demanding democracry" is sheer fantasy

-- the yellow shirts did not succeed in getting any of their demands from the government. the last two governments changed because key figures were shown to have committed election fraud. they simply did not take their own constitution seriously enough to follow it.

-- the red tv station has a perfect right to exist, but if foreign journalists actually understood thai, they would realize that much of its content went far beyond any constitutionally acceptable limits of "protected speech" in a western democracy. every civilized society limits speech when it actually harms others, whether by inciting hate or by slander. the government may have been wrong to brusquely pull the plug, but was certainly right to cry foul. it should have sought an injunction first. example: arisman threatened to destroy mosques, government buildings, and "all institutions you hold sacred" ... a clip widely seen on youtube, without subtitles. without subtitles, it looks like "liberty, equality, fraternity".

-- the army hasn't been shooting women and children ... or indeed anyone at all, except in self-defense. otherwise this would all be over, wouldn't it? it's simple for a big army to mow down 5,000 defenseless people.

-- since the government called the red shirts' bluff and allowed the deputy p.m. to report to the authorities to hear their accusations, the red leaders have been making ever-more fanciful demands. the idea of un intervention is patently absurd. when thaksin killed all those muslims and alleged drug lords, human rights groups asked the un to intervene. when the army took over the entire country, some asked the un to intervene. the un doesn't intervene in the internal affairs of sovereign countries except when requested to by the country itself or when the government has completely broken down.

-- thailand hasn't had an unbreachable gulf between rich and poor for at least 20 years. these conflicts are about the rise of the middle class, not the war between the aristocrats and the proletariat.

-- abhisit, with his thoroughly western and somewhat liberal background, shares the values of the west and is in fact more likely to bring about the social revolution needed by thailand's agrarian poor than any previous leader. he is, in fact, pretty red, while thaksin, in his autocratic style of leadership, is in a way pretty yellow. simplistic portrayals do not help anyone to understand anything.

-- the only people who do not seem to care about the red's actual grievances are their own leaders, who are basically making everyone risk their live to see if they can get bail.

-- the king has said all that he is constitutionally able to say when he spoke to the supreme court justices and urged them to do their duty. the western press never seem to realize that the thai monarchy is constitutionally on the european model ... not, say, the saudi model. the king reigns ... he doesn't "rule". this is a democracy. the king is supposed to symbolize all the people, not a special interest group.

the above are just a few of the elements that needed to be sorted through in order to provide a balanced view of what is happening in this country.

there is one final element that must be mentioned. most are not even aware of it. but there is, in the western mindset, a deeply ingrained sense of the moral superiority of western culture which carries with it the idea that a third world country must by its very nature be ruled by despots, oppress peasants, and kill and torture people. most westerners become very insulted when this is pointed out to them because our deepest prejudices are always those of which we are least aware. i believe that there is a streak of this crypto-racism in some of the reportage we are seeing in the west. it is because of this that baghdad, yangon, and bangkok are being treated as the same thing. we all look alike.

yes, this opinion is always greeted with outrage. i do my best to face my own preconceptions and don't succeed that often, but i acknowledge they exist nonetheless.

some of the foreign press are painting the endgame as the alamo, but it is not. it is a lot closer to jonestown or waco.

like those latter two cases, a highly charismatic leader figure (in our case operating from a distance, shopping in paris while his minions sweat in the 94°weather) has taken an inspirational idea: in one case christianity, in the other democracy, and reinvented it so that mainstream christians, or real democrats, can no longer recognize it. the followers are trapped. there is a siege mentality and information coming from outside is screened so that those trapped believe they will be killed if they try to leave. women and children are being told that they are in danger if they fall into the hands of the government, and to distrust the medics and ngos waiting to help them. there are outraged pronouncements that they're not in fact using the children as human shields, but that the parents brought them willingly to "entertain and thrill" them. there is mounting paranoia coupled with delusions of grandeur, so that the little red kingdom feels it has the right to summon the united nations, just like any other sovereign state. the reporters in rajprasong who are attached to the red community are as susceptible to this variant of the stockholm syndrome as anyone else.

the international press must separate out the very real problems that the rural areas of thailand face, which will take decades to fix, from the fact that a mob is rampaging through bangkok, burning, looting, and firing grenades, threatening in the name of democracy to destroy what democracy yet remains in this country.

but this bad reporting is not their fault. it is our fault for not providing the facts in bite-sized pieces, in the right language, at the right time.

Thaksin is no angel, that's true.

He most likely has a hand in fomenting the current situation. However, this is a popular uprising, supported overtly or covertly, by the majority of Thailands people and the current government has ignored this fact at the nations peril.

Thaksin's policies improved the lives of the 33 or so million folks who live outside of BKK and the other main cities (not to mention millions in it!) more than anyone else on the stage. When he was deposed, their quality of life declined in obvious and tangible ways.

The underclass wants a piece of the pie they tasted under him.

You need to get out of the city, Barko, and see how the rest of Thailand is. Eat some fried dung beetles.

[QUOTE=Naughty]
Do you love the sex and partying, or the people?
.....
Is Thaksin destroying your party spot, or is the greed of the yellows and their refusal to share the nations wealth with its people really at fault?...
[/QUOTE]
You don't know me well, so you cannot understand why I feel the way I do. The majority of my Thai friends are middle class, from Bangkok. Bangkok has always been primarily a place for me to meet up with my friends and spend time with good friends. The sex and partying has always been secondary. None of the many friends I know support the red shirts. They have no right to do what they have done. If Thaksin really cared about his country he would have put a stop to this a long time ago. Instead, he just fanned the flames. He doesn't care about his people. He doesn't care about his country.

[QUOTE=Cunning Linguist]It is far more complex than that! Thaksin was corrupt, trampled human rights in every which way, but at least he paid attention to the poor, even if it might have been an election ploy. The Yellows are just as bad, arguably worse since they never paid attention to the poor and even look down on them, going as far as calling for an end to one-man one vote rule in some cases. As the elite(s) are going to steal anyway, the only viable solution is for the elite(s) (Yellow and Red) to steal 90% instead of 99%.
Thailand is going to have to get its act together. Bangkok might be clear (or about to be cleared) of the redshirts but the provinces in the North will be restive. There has to be a compromise.[/QUOTE]
I agree. But it can't be one way or the other. Like you say, there has to be compromise. Destroying the country because you can't get your way is not the way to show your love for a country. Thaksin should have stopped this. He made it worse. That's why I am so angry with him. When the Yellows took over the airport, they didn't cause anywhere near this amount of damage. The reds started their protest peacefully and little by little escalated it until it got to a point the likes of which I have never seen. There is such a thing as peaceful protest. This was not one. Still, the reds are asking their people over the radio to go into the provinces and burn hotels, banks, and government buildings. How does that help anybody??? Compromise, yes. I agree with that. This is not compromise. This is "My way or no way!"

[QUOTE=Phuquer]None of the many friends I know support the red shirts. They have no right to do what they have done. If Thaksin really cared about his country he would have put a stop to this a long time ago. Instead, he just fanned the flames. He doesn't care about his people. He doesn't care about his country.[/QUOTE]


Then, it logically follows, that the yellows did have the "right" to depose by coup and administrative fiat three democratically elected governments in a row so they could more easily exploit the vastly larger underclass who they really, really care about?

I don't really have a dog in this fight, but I see bad things comin' for Thailand where I, too, have many friends and relatives, from all social classes.



I'm done.

[QUOTE=Amjeck]You're info is valuable and appreciated. I just think telling guys to stay in their hotel rooms is a little over the top. Seize this opportunity and take advantage of the deals out there.[/QUOTE]

Should they stay in their rooms now?

Having been to Bangkok twice and never Pattaya, I thought that with all the hostilities this would be a great time to try Pattaya. But now that the that the troubles have descended on Pattaya, I'm back to considering Bangkok. Can we get some reports from people in Bangkok right now. If someone is considering staying in a hotel in between Nana and Cowboy, and going nowhere else, is it safe? And even if it is safe if you keep travels limited to these areas, have all the WG disappeared?

Is that politics and power reform did stall in Thailand. Had they reformed as success came, none of this would have happened and the rich would have been even richer.

Now a huge price will be paid.

[QUOTE=Naughty]I'm done.[/QUOTE]

Really? you're off to eating some fried dung beetles? ;)

I'll answer my own question with this:

[url]http://www.sukhumvit-psycho.com/[/url]

[QUOTE=Mong1225]I'll answer my own question with this:

[url]http://www.sukhumvit-psycho.com/[/url][/QUOTE]

Additionally you have to consider that the curfew was extended to 3 more nights (until sunday)

The day after. Pictures:

BTS Chidlom: [URL]http://twitpic.com/1pb1nd[/URL]
Empty Stage: [URL]http://twitpic.com/1pb4f5[/URL]
Centralworld: [URL]http://twitpic.com/1pb739[/URL]
Centralworld: [URL]http://twitpic.com/1pb8dj[/URL]
Centralworld: [URL]http://twitpic.com/1pb89k[/URL]

[b]Curfew for the next 3 days, 9 pm to 5 am[/b]


Giotto

[b]List of 36 places in Bangkok hit by arsons (The Nation, CRES):[/b]

1. Office of the Narcotics Control Board (ONCB)
2. A commercial building in Bon Kai community
3. Kasikorn Bank, soi Ngam Doo Plee branch
4. Siam Paragon Shopping Complex
5. CentralWorld Shopping Complex
6. Maleenont Tower
7. Government Savings Bank, Sam Liam Din Daeng branch
8. Metropolitan Electricity Authority, Klong Toei branch
9. Metropolitan Waterworks Authority, Klong Toei branch
10. Stock Exchange of Thailand
11. Sogo Department Store in Rajaprasong area
12. Siam and Scala Cinemas in Siam Square
13. Post Publishing PCL
14. Bangkok Bank, Asok branch
15. Bangkok Bank, Victory Monument branch
16. Bangkok Bank, Chan Road branch
17. Center One Shopping Mall
18. Siam Square
19. Siam City Bank, Siam Square branch
20. Bangkok Bank, Siam Square branch
21. shops in Siam Square soi 5 and 6
22. Mahatun Plaza Building on Ploen Chit Road
23. Bangkok Bank, Rama IV branch
24. 7-Eleven convenient store, Sam Liam Din Daeng branch
25. Krungthai Bank next to Mater Dei School
26. Krungthai Bank, Asok branch
27. Bangkok Bank, Bangjak branch
28. Tesco Lotus Express convenient store, Rama IV branch
29. Bangkok Bank, Sathupradit branch
30. Bangkok Bank, Saphanluang branch
31. Siam City Bank, Sam Liam Din Daeng branch
32. Siam City Bank, Sunthornkosa branch in Klong Toei district
33. 7-Eleven convenient store near Victory Monument
34. Bangkok Bank, Hua Lam Phong branch
35. Siam Commercial Bank, Prachachuen branch
36. Big C Superstore, Rajdamri branch

Three Provincial Halls upcountry were hit by fires in Khon Kaen, Ubon Ratchathani and Udon Thani.


Giotto

Assuming that the curfew applies to farangs as well as Thais, how are you guys caught up in this coping?
What tactics are you employing?
Engage a lady LT before 5pm and hole up in the hotel for the night?

[QUOTE=Sonic Bam]Assuming that the curfew applies to farangs as well as Thais, how are you guys caught up in this coping?
What tactics are you employing?
Engage a lady LT before 5pm and hole up in the hotel for the night?[/QUOTE]

Thats what I did yesterday from 2pm till 8 am - it felt much much longer. As I get older my patience for Thai girls is about 1 hour with very few exceptions. I was so happy when she left! I think I'll watch dvds on my own tonight.

[QUOTE=Giotto]The day after. Pictures:

BTS Chidlom: [URL]http://twitpic.com/1pb1nd[/URL]
Empty Stage: [URL]http://twitpic.com/1pb4f5[/URL]
Centralworld: [URL]http://twitpic.com/1pb739[/URL]
Centralworld: [URL]http://twitpic.com/1pb8dj[/URL]
Centralworld: [URL]http://twitpic.com/1pb89k[/URL]

[b]Curfew for the next 3 days, 9 pm to 5 am[/b]


Giotto[/QUOTE]

Damn!! It will be months (at best) before the district gets up and running (If at all)!!! I'm scheduled to in Bangkok at the end of July for a doctor's appointment. I usually stay at the Intercontinental but it looks i may have to change that if I show up at all.

Dear all,
While many of you who live in Thailand may sympathise with the red or yellow shirts there are no winners in this mess: everyone has lost something: business, family, peace of mind, jobs. I don't need to tell you...ask the hotel owners, ask Giotto, ask the people who worked at CentralWorld, ask yourselves!
I am no expert in thai politics, language or culture. I've only visited the place three times. Violence is however counterproductive to economic stability, tourism and social cohesion.
In an earlier post I stated my suspicion that the army would use armoured vehicles. I was unfortunately correct. I just hope that this nightmare will end.
For all its inherent inconsistencies I love Thailand, its culture, music, food and last but not least women.
Take care and keep safe
Taka

[QUOTE=M P Lurker]I have tried a number of Sushi places in Bangkok and not many really live up to really top quality at a good price.

My favourite is not a Buffet, but I will guarantee the quality of the sushi and other dishes. I have even had the very spcial "toro" sushi there. Its hard to go anywhere else once you have found the one with the best food, and no rip-off prices.

From Sukhumwit road, enter the first very small Soi after Soi 33 (with Villa Markt at the front). Very soon you will be forced to turn right. The restaurant is then on the right side with bamboo like decoration inside.
It has a menu outside that will show the sushi.
I think its opposite to Fuji supermarket but maybe I miss remember slightly.
Alternatively enter the next Soi (Soi 33/1) and turn to the left. These little Sois are very Japanese oriented.

P.S. I tried a Sushi place in main Soi 33 but it wasn't worth repeating. But the good place is still very close.[/QUOTE]
I did mis-remember slightly. "Toaya" my favourite little Japanese restaurant with fabulous sushi is NOT opposite Fuji Supermarket, but is in the little side soi from Sukhumwit soi 33/1, opposite the Bull's Head pub.

I tried many sushi places recommended by others including several in soi 33 proper, but none had a food quality and price to match Toaya, even including those with Japanese customers. Probably the Japanese guys were looking for cute waitresses :), in places where the food was really not quite right.

Many places have Thai staff who just do not understand how to do Japanese food right. It requires special training.

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Toaya is not open on Tuesday (I found out the hard way).

[QUOTE=Big Daddy 1906]Damn!! It will be months (at best) before the district gets up and running (If at all)!!! I'm scheduled to in Bangkok at the end of July for a doctor's appointment. I usually stay at the Intercontinental but it looks i may have to change that if I show up at all.[/QUOTE]Yep, agreed. If it's serious go home and see your doctor. The capital will not be taking into consideration your condition when the sides plan their next activities. Unless I am wrong and, you are the real big daddy? The big Daddy that has been silent during the last few months watching as his children have been fighting each other? Watching for the last few nights and saying nothing? I am a falang but, so sad about what is happening.

[QUOTE=Suller Joe]Is that politics and power reform did stall in Thailand. Had they reformed as success came, none of this would have happened and the rich would have been even richer.

Now a huge price will be paid.[/QUOTE]
Wise words, Joe. But the major players here can't see beyond the end of their noses. It seems to be an ongoing issue in this country.

[QUOTE=Alex336]Additionally you have to consider that the curfew was extended to 3 more nights (until sunday)[/QUOTE]Does the above mean that the curfew is still in force Sunday evening, or that it ends on Sunday so people can move freely again? I had evil plans for Sunday evening as I arrive in BKK, but if there's a curfew I might as well bring some DVDs and chill in the hotel.

[QUOTE=Traveller China]Does the above mean that the curfew is still in force Sunday evening, or that it ends on Sunday so people can move freely again? I had evil plans for Sunday evening as I arrive in BKK, but if there's a curfew I might as well bring some DVDs and chill in the hotel.[/QUOTE]Traveller China,

not clear right now - I heard about the Curfew being extended to Sunday - but I am not sure yet. Officially it ends on Sunday morning, 5 am.


Giotto

[QUOTE=Traveller China]Does the above mean that the curfew is still in force Sunday evening, or that it ends on Sunday so people can move freely again? I had evil plans for Sunday evening as I arrive in BKK, but if there's a curfew I might as well bring some DVDs and chill in the hotel.[/QUOTE]Just get a girl to come over early and stay.

Anyway, the curfew is lifted for Patts. I would be surprised if they extended it for Bangkok beyond Sunday morning.

At 6pm most bars were closed. some smaller ones were open. Dollhouse was open as well and packed. Don't know at what time they close.

[QUOTE=Spider916]At 6pm most bars were closed. some smaller ones were open. Dollhouse was open as well and packed. Don't know at what time they close.[/QUOTE]This brings up another interesting aspect. During times of curfew, I reckon the old "Sure, I go LT baby" that turns into "My sister have no key" with ST money is more difficult to pull off. After all, they may get shot, and not by the punter. Any experiences or are y'all just loading up the DVDs on the computer and sleeping alone?

I am scheduled to reach Bangkok on 30 May. Is it safe. I mean arriving from airport to Sukhumvit. Staying there and returning after a week of mongering.

Are there a lot of checkpoints? I would be grateful if anyone who has arrived recently would let me know.

[QUOTE=Chrisde99]I am scheduled to reach Bangkok on 30 May. Is it safe. I mean arriving from airport to Sukhumvit. Staying there and returning after a week of mongering. Are there a lot of checkpoints? I would be grateful if anyone who has arrived recently would let me know.[/QUOTE]Safe. The feeling on the street is a lot different today.

Still a big military and police presence, but they are starting to pack up and go home. I know as some police brass were staying in my building, and I passed them checking out (with smiles) this afternoon!

Interestingly, even in the times of curfew you can have a very good time here. Yesterday, my "mrs." went home to see her kid, so I booked a last minute room at a hotel on Suk Soi 23. I went there about 4 pm, checked in, then walked across the street to a massage shop for a Thai massage (MM Massage). The pretty lady offered me a [i]special[/i] but I told her was saving my power for later; however, I did arrange for her to come to my room the next morning.

A little before 8, my [i]#1 gik[/i] came to my hotel to spend the night after her shift at the flower shop. She left early, and a little later the pretty massage lady came by for a couple of hours. Man, she is a sweetie...

Checked out about 1 pm, walked through Soi Cowboy (lots of smiles and "welcomes" from the beer bars), picked up some shirts I had made at Milan Suit, then walked from Asoke to Soi 5 for a haircut.

After that, caught a taxi over to Silom and had a drink at Cleo Bar on Patpong 2 next to SOL. I then had a great lunch at Madrid Bar. Walked home.

SOL is open, btw.

Only problems today: The roads in Ratchaprasong are still closed. Silom & Sathorn Rd. still partially closed. Taxis are more expensive due to the necessary detours. Motosi taxis charging twice normal for short trips.

One interesting tidbit. While at the bar this afternoon, the old gal giving me a back massage said, "there are now many ghost in Bangkok as 700 to 800 people die," and "they put body in truck and took them to crocodile farm in Samut Prakan."

[i]Hmmm...[/i]

[QUOTE=Fon Tok]
One interesting tidbit. While at the bar this afternoon, the old gal giving me a back massage said, "there are now many ghost in Bangkok as 700 to 800 people die," and "they put body in truck and took them to crocodile farm in Samut Prakan."

[i]Hmmm...[/i][/QUOTE]


Good report, but that last bit is complete horseshit - just shows you how ignorant these girls are when it comes to Thai news and politics.

I just got back into BKK from a 3+ week stay in Nongbulamphu (Red Territory). Aside from Sky Train and the Subway (Subway is suppose to be in operation Sunday) I felt quite at ease. I noticed a lot of the soldiers in their hammocks on the overhead walkway from the Exchange Building to Asoke BTS where there in the morning but gone when I came back. Outwardly normalcy seems to be returning. A friend and I where in Soi Cowboy early evening Friday night and had a great time. Yes, most places where closed but everyone says they will be in full swing come Sunday. Speaking for myself, why cancel or postpone!

[QUOTE=Chrisde99]I am scheduled to reach Bangkok on 30 May. Is it safe. I mean arriving from airport to Sukhumvit. Staying there and returning after a week of mongering.

Are there a lot of checkpoints? I would be grateful if anyone who has arrived recently would let me know.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Mangofan]Good report, but that last bit is complete horseshit - just shows you how ignorant these girls are when it comes to Thai news and politics.[/QUOTE]:)
Oh c'mon. You believe everything you hear and read in the Thai news?

Besides, being Thai, she was a lot more worried about [i]the ghosts of the dead[/i] than the dead themselves!

[QUOTE=Chrisde99]I am scheduled to reach Bangkok on 30 May. Is it safe. I mean arriving from airport to Sukhumvit. Staying there and returning after a week of mongering.

Are there a lot of checkpoints? I would be grateful if anyone who has arrived recently would let me know.[/QUOTE]


Walked today down Ploen Chit, Chitlom, up to Pratunam, back to Paragon and Hard Rock Cafe. It's possible to walk inside the Ratchaprasong Area. Alot of Tourists there for sightseeing and also Reporter. Still alot of Garbage, some houses were burn down, some banks and Money Change offices had broken windows, ATM were broken up and of course big fire damage at Central World Mall. At Pratunam it looks fine. Cleaners made a good job and maybe at Monday Pratunam Market can start work again. I guess Siam Square will need a few days longer.
All, in all I would say it's save. I guess it's now a good time to come to BKK, though many Bangkok Hookers I saw in Pattaya and of course Change Rate for Euro, Dollar and GBP are still low.

[QUOTE=DG69]Walked today down Ploen Chit, Chitlom, up to Pratunam, back to Paragon and Hard Rock Cafe. It's possible to walk inside the Ratchaprasong Area. Alot of Tourists there for sightseeing and also Reporter. Still alot of Garbage, some houses were burn down, some banks and Money Change offices had broken windows, ATM were broken up and of course big fire damage at Central World Mall. At Pratunam it looks fine. Cleaners made a good job and maybe at Monday Pratunam Market can start work again. I guess Siam Square will need a few days longer.

All, in all I would say it's save. I guess it's now a good time to come to BKK, though many Bangkok Hookers I saw in Pattaya and of course Change Rate for Euro, Dollar and GBP are still low.[/QUOTE]How is the Intercontinental Hotel Arcade? Was it damaged heavily? If not, does it look like it will be opening soon?

[QUOTE=Chrisde99]I am scheduled to reach Bangkok on 30 May. Is it safe. I mean arriving from airport to Sukhumvit. Staying there and returning after a week of mongering.

Are there a lot of checkpoints? I would be grateful if anyone who has arrived recently would let me know.[/QUOTE]Probably safer than you are at home. :D

Yeah, it's perfectly safe here in Bangkok today, Saturday. A lot of whistles moving cars around the parking lots, a very good sign. Hell I think it's safer today than it has been around here in years. I just hope some wise guy PM doesn't get any stupid ideas about more BKK inner city night-time control bullshit because it actually IS safer and seems much more sane today. Bangkok people are definitely behaving themselves like no other time in recent history.

Just plan on having a great time here.

[QUOTE=Rodwint2]How is the Intercontinental Hotel Arcade? Was it damaged heavily? If not, does it look like it will be opening soon?[/QUOTE]

I don't know to be honest. I walked down the road from Sukhumvit until Erawan Shrine, than left along Siam Square up to Pratunam. On the way back it was not more possible to go down the Ratchadamri Street. So, I walked down the Slum North of Central World until Pathum Wan and than up Rama I and down to Hard Rock Cafe. Some Places were damaged. For example one of the Super Rich Money Changer, Central World, a Shop at Corner Henry Dunant and Rama I and a hair dresser shop Siam Square Soi 4, everything else was fine.
Guess it could be opend by middle of next week.
Today Nana was closed, Nana Parking Lot had not much girls available and Thermae were closed and Cowboy only a few bars were open (Dollhouse, Suzi Wrong, etc.) Also, Biergarten were only older Women available. Thanks god, I had some tel numbers and so the night is rescued. ;)

I just returned home (2am) from a party at the Black Pagoda above Patpong 2 (the bar in the sky bridge near Foodland). I stopped in there about 8:15 pm and the owner told me he was "locking the doors" at 9 pm and letting the party run until the curfew ended Sunday morning at 5 am.

I was planning to stay all night but decided the hell with it after being pestered for lady drinks too much, so I walked home. A few soldiers passed me on motorbikes when I crossed Silom Road, and there were some police on my soi, but no one stopped me.

Funny thing, there were a few soldiers partyin' in the bar, too!

Thanks guys for your reports.

I will not cancel my trip.

Bangkok Post indicates the curfew is day to day and for Sunday it is 11p<>5am. Last night seemed quieter than Friday night. Mass transit, both Skytrain and subway, are operating today (Sunday).

No curfew in Pattaya.

[QUOTE=Rodwint2]How is the Intercontinental Hotel Arcade? Was it damaged heavily? If not, does it look like it will be opening soon?[/QUOTE]

You mean that back place before going to Gaysorn? the little shitty excuse of a mall with 3 gem vendors that are always empty?
Wow, I'm surprise someone actually know about this place LOL

[QUOTE=Jgm005]Bangkok Post indicates the curfew is day to day and for Sunday it is 11p<>5am. Last night seemed quieter than Friday night. Mass transit, both Skytrain and subway, are operating today (Sunday).

No curfew in Pattaya.[/QUOTE]


Arrrgh, wtf. It's my last full night in Bangkok and I hoped I could visit some of the late night clubs. That's a pitty.

With MRT and BTS operating I decided to get back into my routine of going to the Madrid for breakie (being an X Spook). Hopped on MRT around 9am at Asoke. Asoke station very quiet but the train had more folks than I expected.

When I got out of the MRT Silom station there was a mass of humanity all over the place. Seems it was clean up Silom day for nearly everyone had a broom, bucket, brushes and where going to town from Rama IV upward. Silom was closed to traffic. Thais, to me, do not pay much attention to details when cleaning but I must say I was impressed in seeing many folks with toothbrushes cleaning phone key pad and anything small.

The military had a small presence on Pat Pong 1 with a few trucks and soldiers standing around. It was a fairly festive atmosphere in the area. Lots of group photo taking. Jenny at Madrid was happy to actually see a live paying customer. Seems they have been feeding a lot of the army folks.

I took BTS back and as it rounded that curve into the Siam Station one could get a fairly good view of Zen/Central World. Really a bloody mess and a shame! The back part, where you could enter from the walkway was, visually, AOK. I am assuming they are referring to this part that they can get back open within 6 months.

Seems we had a similar tour. Though mine starts later. I went at 11 am to Asoke MRT, took the train to Hua Lampong for a sightseeing tour to Chinatown. At 14 am I had a stop at Silom and went to Patpong. I haven't seen any Military at that time. I walked up and down Patpong 2 and 1. Patpong 1 almost empty. Just The Madrid and a Massage Parlour were open. In Patpong 2 was a bit more signe of living. SOL was open and some of the bar beers as well.
I also went by BTS to Siam Square. Also here no Soldiers any more. Just some Police here and there. Alot of Thais were cleaning the area with their brooms. Seems that Bangkok has no professional street cleaning units. Or, they do that to blaime the Red Shirts for the mess.
I went up to Pratunam and Security Staff told Platinum Shopping Center will open again tomorrow. Some stall at Pratunam Market were already back.

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Giotto

[QUOTE=DG69]I don't know to be honest. I walked down the road from Sukhumvit until Erawan Shrine, than left along Siam Square up to Pratunam. On the way back it was not more possible to go down the Ratchadamri Street. So, I walked down the Slum North of Central World until Pathum Wan and than up Rama I and down to Hard Rock Cafe. Some Places were damaged. For example one of the Super Rich Money Changer, Central World, a Shop at Corner Henry Dunant and Rama I and a hair dresser shop Siam Square Soi 4, everything else was fine.

Guess it could be opend by middle of next week.

Today Nana was closed, Nana Parking Lot had not much girls available and Thermae were closed and Cowboy only a few bars were open (Dollhouse, Suzi Wrong, etc.) Also, Biergarten were only older Women available. Thanks god, I had some tel numbers and so the night is rescued. ;)[/QUOTE]Thank you, I will check them out today.

Bangkok curfew: Now 12am - 4am through Friday.

Also, keep in mind that this Friday is a big Thai Buddhist holiday, "Visakha Bucha", no sales of alcohol and all bars will be closed.

Here comes another time twisted week.

Oh yeah, for you guys arriving on the late-night flights during the curfew: No problem, just get your taxi downstairs in the arrival hall, not up at departures. Keep your boarding pass and hotel booking info paperwork close at hand. Everything all nice and legal = no worries and no baksheesh. ;)

The news media hasn't reported anything unusual today. Does the curfew extension indicate more trouble (and less available girls) is ahead?

I will arrive to Bangkok Friday 1 Am. And I am not staying in hotel I have an apartment in Bangkok. Will that be a problem getting a taxi? Or I have to spend few hours in the airport. Any ideas?

[QUOTE=Love Sex 22]I will arrive to Bangkok Friday 1 Am. And I am not staying in hotel I have an apartment in Bangkok. Will that be a problem getting a taxi? Or I have to spend few hours in the airport. Any ideas?[/QUOTE]No problem, I arrived at 2400 the other day, took a cab to my apartment outside of central Bangkok. No check points at the airport or along the way to my apartment. That being said I would have your ticket and something official with your name and address (I had my maintenance fee) on it.

Hp

[QUOTE=Love Sex 22]I will arrive to Bangkok Friday 1 Am. And I am not staying in hotel I have an apartment in Bangkok. Will that be a problem getting a taxi? Or I have to spend few hours in the airport. Any ideas?[/QUOTE]Arriving at the airport? Taxis are doing their thing, downstairs arrival hall. Keep your boarding pass with you, keep your bag-tags on your bags. If you are stopped at a checkpoint, a smile, a very quick explanation, and all proof thereof, are all they need. From what I experienced last night, the military aren't really looking at farangs, in fact they seem like they really don't want to be bothered.

Taxi fare: metered taxi fare plus 50 Baht airport surcharge, and expressway fees. You taxi driver should know where the military checkpoints are now and will do his best to avoid them. Welcome back.

Hi guys,

Anyone knows if any of the usual go-go bars, MPs, etc will be open this coming Friday? Have to be in BKK for a short work meeting on Friday morning, and am considering either staying the night or just going for MP in the day. If most of the bars will be closed, any recommendations on where I can get some action then?

[QUOTE=Globe Trots]Hi guys,

Anyone knows if any of the usual go-go bars, MPs, etc will be open this coming Friday? Have to be in BKK for a short work meeting on Friday morning, and am considering either staying the night or just going for MP in the day. If most of the bars will be closed, any recommendations on where I can get some action then?[/QUOTE]


It's a Buddhist holiday on Friday, so I'd say most will be closed.

[QUOTE=Allover]The news media hasn't reported anything unusual today. Does the curfew extension indicate more trouble (and less available girls) is ahead?[/QUOTE]Curfew means more long times, less chance for the girls to need to go back and pull another guy, and more bargaining power for the guys at about 10:30.

Hi All,
I read where the curfew has been extended to Friday but from 12-4am.

Are there any WG near nana disco or near Grace hotel?

Are there any places where they can be found?
Thanks.

Beware Getting caught outside in the middle of the curfew can get you in trouble...

[QUOTE=Bkk212]Hi All,

I read where the curfew has been extended to Friday but from 12-4am.

Are there any WG near nana disco or near Grace hotel?

Are there any places where they can be found?

Thanks.[/QUOTE]Funny, umm yeah. There will be many many from noon onwards to 10PM. Just take a stroll from Grace, go on around the corner on Sukhumvit toward Soi 5. Take your pick.

Be off the street for good by midnight though, no joke.

[QUOTE=Love Sex 22]I will arrive to Bangkok Friday 1 Am. And I am not staying in hotel I have an apartment in Bangkok. Will that be a problem getting a taxi? Or I have to spend few hours in the airport. Any ideas?[/QUOTE]
I just arrived on the United flight from Narita, touched down at 11:10pm, whisked through immigration and customs in less than 20 minutes (hell, the walk from the airplane to immigration took longer than customs). The taxi ride into town was uneventful. The taxi driver told me that there are occasional police checks, but since it was raining, all the cops ran for cover. He said that so long as you are falang *with a passport*, you are ok. He seemed to suggest that you could even purposefully break the curfew (e.g., bar hop) provided you have a foreign passport. I'm not sure how wise that would be though - I am *not* recommending it.

As for the taxi drivers, they get a special permit to be out after the curfew with the express purpose of driving tourists back and forth between the airport and town. He showed it to me - some official piece of paper that he displayed on his dashboard. So the long answer to your question is no, you do not need to hang out at the airport - just take a taxi back to your place and sleep tight.

Pulled onto Suk, and boy it was eery - not a soul in sight, and it was not 10 minutes past midnight. Oh, except for the large, bermuda-clad falang with a cutie on his arm walking back to shag the hell out of her. We drove through soi 11 like a blaze, which at that hour is usually a near impossibility. So it is well and truly dead after midnight here.

But that's best for me - it will give me a chance to rest up properly. This Friday holiday thing is kind of bugging me though...

[QUOTE=Kumbu]I just arrived on the United flight from Narita, touched down at 11:10pm, whisked through immigration and customs in less than 20 minutes (hell, the walk from the airplane to immigration took longer than customs). The taxi ride into town was uneventful. The taxi driver told me that there are occasional police checks,

We drove through soi 11 like a blaze, which at that hour is usually a near impossibility. So it is well and truly dead after midnight here.


[/QUOTE]


Given the situation I'm just curious, was it a metered taxi and what was the fare?

[QUOTE=Run Mann]Given the situation I'm just curious, was it a metered taxi and what was the fare?[/QUOTE]

I arrived by taxi on 24th. It was a 'normal' taxi, fare was around THB180, plus I paid toll fees THB25 and THB45.

[QUOTE=Run Mann]Given the situation I'm just curious, was it a metered taxi and what was the fare?[/QUOTE]
Yup, metered, it came to 207 on the meter, plus the regular tolls. There is nothing to fear with respect to arriving in BKK, nothing at all. The only problem is the early bedtime, but I'm guessing that is manageable.

[QUOTE=Kumbu]Yup, metered, it came to 207 on the meter, plus the regular tolls. There is nothing to fear with respect to arriving in BKK, nothing at all. The only problem is the early bedtime, but I'm guessing that is manageable.[/QUOTE]


Yea it's manageable if you have someone or sometwo in bed with you!

[QUOTE=Barko]Funny, umm yeah. There will be many many from noon onwards to 10PM. Just take a stroll from Grace, go on around the corner on Sukhumvit toward Soi 5. Take your pick.

Be off the street for good by midnight though, no joke.[/QUOTE]



Thanks Barko appreciate the heads up. I am not used to looking for company that early (b4 10:00pm) but I guess will have to make a slight adjustment.

I would hope closer to 10:00pm negotations are in my favor.

Thanks guys for the info. I hope Friday will be the last curfew day. Does anyone knows if Bamboo bar soi 3 is open and running? I wonder if they close the doors at curfew and open them at 4 am. Any info about some other late night spots that lock the customers in till 4 am. I suffer from serious insomnia when I come back to Bangkok........

Anyone got info on massage or bars with action near this hotel? Or is there any know action in the hotel...massage extras or friendly's at the bar?

There is one thing that has bothered a lot of people over the last six weeks or so. In watching the crippling six week national paralysis, culminating in a traumatic emotional crackdown, one can't help wonder how it is that the economic infrastructure of the country has remained so remarkably stable. The stock market lost some value, but not anything like what might be expected. And more importantly for falang mongers like us, the Thai currency has remained resolute throughout this period. There was actually a strengthening of the Baht at the midpoint of the conflict, but by the end of the crackdown last week the Baht was back to the expected 32.3-32.5 range to the US dollar. A couple of weeks ago there was some speculation on this board about how that might be - someone suggested that strong-men in the government illicitly control the currency for their own benefit. Well, I found this in a business weekly article about a week before the crack-down (note the subject-verb agreement error in the Japanese currency dealer's quote):

"Losses in the baht may be limited because the central bank controls speculative trading and limits transactions from corporations and investors, according to Tsutomu Soma, a bond and currency dealer at Okasan Securities Co. in Tokyo. The Bank of Thailand sets a daily cap of 300 million baht for trading accounts held by non-residents, such as overseas corporations, funds and banks, for investments in securities and other financial instruments. A similar limit is also set for non-investment accounts.
“The authorities’ way to control speculative trading is working quite well under this kind of conditions,” Soma said. “Still, this kind of violence is definitely negative for the baht and stocks because that will further damage tourism, which is an important sector for their economy.”"

Speaking of which, before I left Bangkok for Pattaya this afternoon, I exchanged dollars at a rate of 32.45. In Pattaya, the best rate I have seen is 31.41. That's a remarkable difference.

[QUOTE=Kumbu]Speaking of which, before I left Bangkok for Pattaya this afternoon, I exchanged dollars at a rate of 32.45. In Pattaya, the best rate I have seen is 31.41. That's a remarkable difference.[/QUOTE]The best rates in Bangkok for US notes can always be had at Super Rich.

The commercial banks give different rates for different values of dollar bills, the highest rate given to 100USD bills.

Note also that the exchange rate fluctuates throughout the day -both up and down -with sometimes more than 5 changes during the day.

Up to the minute prices for notes and travellers cheques can be obtained from [url]http://bankexchangerates.daytodaydata.net/default.aspx[/url]

[QUOTE=Naughty]Thaksin is no angel, that's true.

He most likely has a hand in fomenting the current situation. However, this is a popular uprising, supported overtly or covertly, by the majority of Thailands people and the current government has ignored this fact at the nations peril.

Thaksin's policies improved the lives of the 33 or so million folks who live outside of BKK and the other main cities (not to mention millions in it!) more than anyone else on the stage. When he was deposed, their quality of life declined in obvious and tangible ways.

The underclass wants a piece of the pie they tasted under him.

You need to get out of the city, Barko, and see how the rest of Thailand is. Eat some fried dung beetles.[/QUOTE]I wonder if you would write this same report a week later - Taksin no angel has to the understatement of the board. Are you watching the information coming out of this (local media?) or are you plugged into the CNN "Freedom Fighter Story Line?"

Maybe read this blog, might help; written by a Thai

[url]http://www.somtow.org/2010/05/dont-blame-dan-rivers.html[/url]

[QUOTE=Bumholes1]The best rates in Bangkok for US notes can always be had at Super Rich.[/QUOTE]Where is Super Rich located? I usually don't go far out of my way in the BKK heat to get a better exchange rate but I'd like to check it out next week.

[QUOTE=Ice Cream Boyz]Where is Super Rich located? I usually don't go far out of my way in the BKK heat to get a better exchange rate but I'd like to check it out next week.[/QUOTE]To ice cream

Super rich is located at rachadmari are near big see across the st from central world there are 4 location. Rate is a little better than the money changer on sunhumvit area

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Is Levitra available OTC in Bangkok?

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[QUOTE=Chrisde99]Is Levitra available OTC in Bangkok?[/QUOTE]Got some last visit at the pharmacy next to the gas station at the nana intersection, can't remember how much but was'nt cheap. Is there a generic version?

Viagra, cialis and all the generics are all easy to get, I don't think theres a pharmacy around upper suk that won't sell them.

[QUOTE=Chrisde99]Is Levitra available OTC in Bangkok?[/QUOTE]There is a shop called Surawong Medical Center in Patpong on the little soi that leads to The Wall Street Inn (enter off Surawong Rd). It is on the right, about 20 meters into the soi. They have a little display case in the window that features ED drugs (all flavors). Cheaper if you buy in quantity.

They also do very good physical therapy (the medical type) for injuries!

Since I have not read any recent reports on Bangkok shut down, can I assume that everything is back to normal as of now?

Also, does anyone have any new information on the Airport train? Last I heard, they were making test run to the Airport? Any time frame on when it will be open?

[QUOTE=Csun213]Since I have not read any recent reports on Bangkok shut down, can I assume that everything is back to normal as of now?

Also, does anyone have any new information on the Airport train? Last I heard, they were making test run to the Airport? Any time frame on when it will be open?[/QUOTE]


Not quite back to normal, curfew is still on from 12:00am-4:00am. Today (Friday) is a holiday so don't expect bars to be open.

Lots of girls on the street but the prices as usual vary, from 1000ST to 3000LT.

I owuld guess closer to 12:00 midnight the prices will be discounted!

KS Pharmacy a few shops from Robinson's/Sukhumvit. Great folks there. My Drug of choice!

[QUOTE=Chrisde99]Is Levitra available OTC in Bangkok?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Bkk212]Not quite back to normal, curfew is still on from 12:00am-4:00am. Today (Friday) is a holiday so don't expect bars to be open.

Lots of girls on the street but the prices as usual vary, from 1000ST to 3000LT.

I owuld guess closer to 12:00 midnight the prices will be discounted![/QUOTE]

Thanks for the info and the quick response. I think I am just going to move my trip to Oct just to be sure. Maybe by that time, the airport train will be up and running.

[QUOTE=Csun213]Thanks for the info and the quick response. I think I am just going to move my trip to Oct just to be sure. Maybe by that time, the airport train will be up and running.[/QUOTE]Csun213,

I wouldn't move my trip back just because you want to take a ride on the new train. Although the curfew is still on day by day in Bangkok, I sense in a week or so or when they remove the curfew that the Thailand Tourist Association if not already are making plans with the Airlines to present some pretty good deals so that you would visit LOS in the very near future and not during October. They want your business now! Many of my buddies are already researching prices and waiting for the deals. In my opinion you are going to see some price drops for trip beginning and ending in the 2 month range.

Around a month ago there was a discussing on the board relating to police checking Farangs at the bus station for Viagra etc. I was in Bangkok in the beginning of May and for the first time I saw ventors like the ones selling T-shirts on Sukhumvit selling Viagra, Cialis, etc. Just out in the open, layed out on tables. Maybe this was the reason for the crackdown in bus station and certain location. This was clearly black market to me! I didn't ask the price or partake got mines at the regular place Soi 4, next to gas station also on Sukhumvit near Majestic Suites.

LBM

[QUOTE=Csun213]Thanks for the info and the quick response. I think I am just going to move my trip to Oct just to be sure. Maybe by that time, the airport train will be up and running.[/QUOTE]

I thought the same thing - in 2007.

Would like to meet a pregnant girl. - I kept my eyes open but without any success so long.-
Has anybody made experience? May be there does exist a special place where to meet them ??
Thanks for advice
FV.

[QUOTE=FlyingVisitor]Would like to meet a pregnant girl. - I kept my eyes open but without any success so long.-
Has anybody made experience? May be there does exist a special place where to meet them ??
Thanks for advice
FV.[/QUOTE]

You could always meet a girl that isn't pregnant and work your own magic. ;)

Took a stroll through Cowboy this evening at 8:50PM. Most everything was shuttered and dark. There was a small bar on the left before/after Deja Vu that was open. Suzie Wong seemed to be operating though I didn't venture in. Perhaps on or two others. Fanny's was undergoing renovations. Maybe 15-20 farang milling about.

I assumed the darkness was due to the curfew until I tried to buy a wine cooler from 7-11 and the door was tied shut. I couldn't read the sign in Thai but did notice that it mentioned midnight 27 to midnight 28 and realized that things may be shuttered due to the Bhuddist holiday today.

[QUOTE=FlyingVisitor]Would like to meet a pregnant girl. - I kept my eyes open but without any success so long.-
Has anybody made experience? May be there does exist a special place where to meet them ??
Thanks for advice
FV.[/QUOTE]
I have seen two at Nana by the carpark in the past, about 4 months ago. They looked as though they were working, however I was on the other side of the road so was not close enough to get approached. I guess they need to work as long as they can. They will for sure be out of action for a little while after they have the baby.

BB

[QUOTE=Chrisde99]Is Levitra available OTC in Bangkok?[/QUOTE]



Jgm005

My experience in Bangkok was that availability of OTC for male enhancement drugs or other drugs varied from pharmacy to pharmacy.

If one shop did not stock or would not sell OTC I went down the block and found one that could fulfill my needs.

At one point due to a back injury I needed Codeine for the pain. I had a couple of shops tell me not possible without a doctors prescription.

I went to a pharmacy next to my tailor S/3 Sukhumvit Soi 22, no problem whatever I needed was available.

For location reference the tailors name is Larry's Fashion. Great tailor, I bought 13 shirts from them. One shirt custom made I ordered at 3:oo pm, and was delivered 4 hours later to my hotel. Plus they will negotiate on price.

Anyway hope this helps.

Guido88

[QUOTE=Csun213]Since I have not read any recent reports on Bangkok shut down, can I assume that everything is back to normal as of now?

Also, does anyone have any new information on the Airport train? Last I heard, they were making test run to the Airport? Any time frame on when it will be open?[/QUOTE]I arrived yesterday morning and proceeded to my normal hotel. Nanatai Mansion Sukh, Soi 4. They have some new rooms available which, they have told me. Are available at1100 bt per night. I realise this is not the hotel section but these rooms are really quite nice. With the exception of a lack of hot water in the shower and no real pressure. Wifi also available in rooms.

Went to Morning Night bar around 2pm. Bar was open and beer was being sold. However no whisky available for the lady drinks (note to self. That is a good thing). I asked why they could be open and was told that the police had said no problems if they opened. They were closing up around 6. 30-7. 00 pm.

Many other bars. Especially those with pool tables. Had been open during the day.

I understand that perhaps the curfew will be lifted today?

Anyway. To me. Bangkok is business as usual although not many farangs around!

Cheers to all

A lot of you guys are buying this stuff in pharmacies. I've never bought it for fear of it not being the real thing. Is there any way or any place you can be reasonably sure you're getting the real stuff?

[QUOTE=Allover]A lot of you guys are buying this stuff in pharmacies. I've never bought it for fear of it not being the real thing. Is there any way or any place you can be reasonably sure you're getting the real stuff?[/QUOTE]


Allover

My experience buying in Thailand, Europe, Eastern Europe, Russia and Mexico is that most of the time I have found that the meds are knock offs from China or India.

Usually they work well, only 1 time have they not done the job. Last purchase in TJ was a waste.

IMHO Try a small piece and see if it works. Keep the receipt and return if the product is lacking. Your mileage may vary......

Guido88

[QUOTE=Guido88]Allover

My experience buying in Thailand, Europe, Eastern Europe, Russia and Mexico is that most of the time I have found that the meds are knock offs from China or India.

Usually they work well, only 1 time have they not done the job. Last purchase in TJ was a waste.

IMHO Try a small piece and see if it works. Keep the receipt and return if the product is lacking. Your mileage may vary......

Guido88[/QUOTE]

I do agree with u. Some day before I was also afraid about these extra stimulation. But now I'm not. To face an extensive sex practice once I fallen in need of something stimulating and I find "Penegra(Made in India) in Soi Buakhao, Pattaya. Surprisingly It found so effective for me and worked for a longer time.

Arrived to Bangkok 5/28 1 am to Bangkok. The Emigration check was so fast, never seen Bangkok visitors at such low numbers. After customs checks went to first floor the Taxi waiting area. Had to wait about 30 minutes for my turn to get a taxi. The driver got me to my location driving through local roads, didn't see any check points and only few other cars or trucks on the road. Paid him metered 190 baht plus 50 baht air port charge and another 50 baht tip. First impression of Bangkok is almost everything is normal except the curfew that hopefully will be lifted soon.

I find most people proclaim that Super Rich in Big C is the place with the bestrates. A little while ago, someone said Vasu Exchange in Suk near Soi 11 is the best. And more recently, Dinghy posted this website which gives updated rates in Bangkok:

[url]http://bankexchangerates.daytodaydata.net/default.aspx[/url]

The problem is the difference between Super Rich and all the others listed on that site is quite significant (e.g., 32.53 at Super Rich, and the next closest is 32.2). That seemed a little suspicious to me.

So here's what I spent my lunch time doing today. I went from one place to the other in super fast order to try to see the rates offered at various exchange places. My results:

Vasu Exchange: 32.50
SuperRich Ratchadamri 32.53
TMB Exchange in Nana BTS station: 32.19
Super Rich in Chit Lom BTS station: 32.29
Siam City Exchange in Siam BTS: 32.22
Exchange in Siam Paragon: 32.19
MBK Exchange (right outside Tokyu Hands): 32.22
TMB in National Stadium BTS: 32.21

So you can see from this pseudo-scientific gathering of data that there is a minor bi-modal distribution in that Vasu and Super Rich (Ratchadamri) are at 32.50 and 32.53 respectively, and all the rest are in the 32.2 region.

Super Rich Big C is not open since Big C is closed, so the Super Rich I went to is one block further on the next soi. I also went to the two others in that little maze there, and the rates were between 32.50 and 32.53.

Bottom line for me, if you are in the Nana area, go to Vasu, the 0.03 difference is not worth the time, money and sweat it takes to get to Super Rich. But if you are in the Chit Lom area, Super Rich Ratchadamri is the place to go.

[QUOTE=Kumbu]I find most people proclaim that Super Rich in Big C is the place with the bestrates. A little while ago, someone said Vasu Exchange in Suk near Soi 11 is the best. And more recently, Dinghy posted this website which gives updated rates in Bangkok:

[url]http://bankexchangerates.daytodaydata.net/default.aspx[/url]

The problem is the difference between Super Rich and all the others listed on that site is quite significant (e.g., 32.53 at Super Rich, and the next closest is 32.2). That seemed a little suspicious to me.

So here's what I spent my lunch time doing today. I went from one place to the other in super fast order to try to see the rates offered at various exchange places. My results:

Vasu Exchange: 32.50
SuperRich Ratchadamri 32.53
TMB Exchange in Nana BTS station: 32.19
Super Rich in Chit Lom BTS station: 32.29
Siam City Exchange in Siam BTS: 32.22
Exchange in Siam Paragon: 32.19
MBK Exchange (right outside Tokyu Hands): 32.22
TMB in National Stadium BTS: 32.21

So you can see from this pseudo-scientific gathering of data that there is a minor bi-modal distribution in that Vasu and Super Rich (Ratchadamri) are at 32.50 and 32.53 respectively, and all the rest are in the 32.2 region.

Super Rich Big C is not open since Big C is closed, so the Super Rich I went to is one block further on the next soi. I also went to the two others in that little maze there, and the rates were between 32.50 and 32.53.

Bottom line for me, if you are in the Nana area, go to Vasu, the 0.03 difference is not worth the time, money and sweat it takes to get to Super Rich. But if you are in the Chit Lom area, Super Rich Ratchadamri is the place to go.[/QUOTE]

Hey Kumbu

You could have spent your lunchtime with a girl or 2 instead of chasing from bank to bank in the heat to find out exactly what you could have done from your computer

The web site you quoted [url]http://bankexchangerates.daytodaydata.net/default.aspx[/url]
updates every few minutes and would have given you the same answers.

[QUOTE=Bumholes1]Hey Kumbu

You could have spent your lunchtime with a girl or 2 instead of chasing from bank to bank in the heat to find out exactly what you could have done from your computer

The web site you quoted [url]http://bankexchangerates.daytodaydata.net/default.aspx[/url]
updates every few minutes and would have given you the same answers.[/QUOTE]
Some people might think the mongerers are perverted.
I think the real perverts are those spending hours to save few cents.
To each one his own, no doubt.
But what's the real outcome of the exchange rate survey? Some cents (5?) of a baht. Suppose you change 1000$ you gain 50bahts... You don't even buy yourself a beer with that....
How many are spending 1000$ on each mongering visit (of a week or so)?
Guys, don't take me wrong, but we are there to spend time and money to enjoy ourselves and 50 bahts won't give us more mongering enjoyment :)

I thought that Banks give better exchange rate than money changers. It is that there are more money changers than banks so easier but give less exchange rate than banks. Did I get my information wrong?

Went down to SOL for a slimmers lunch today and should've just turned around and went home. Silom is having a huge sidewalk sale that's bringing thousands into the area. The whole road under the BTS was just jam-packed with bodies - and not in a good way. Even the BTS station was packed - so much so that I only bought a ticket good enough for the next station as I didn't want to stand in the line for the change counter. So while is all safe and sound, I'd recommend avoiding the area for the time being - even you bargain hunters out there; while the goods are cheap and the merchants are doing a good job making up for lost revenue, its just hellish.

SOL BBBJ was all it was meant to be, though.

[QUOTE=Thulolado]Went down to SOL for a slimmers lunch today and should've just turned around and went home. Silom is having a huge sidewalk sale that's bringing thousands into the area. The whole road under the BTS was just jam-packed with bodies - and not in a good way. Even the BTS station was packed - so much so that I only bought a ticket good enough for the next station as I didn't want to stand in the line for the change counter. So while is all safe and sound, I'd recommend avoiding the area for the time being - even you bargain hunters out there; while the goods are cheap and the merchants are doing a good job making up for lost revenue, its just hellish.

SOL BBBJ was all it was meant to be, though.[/QUOTE]The Silom street market ends on Sunday (30/5).

[QUOTE=LittleBigMan]Csun213,

I wouldn't move my trip back just because you want to take a ride on the new train. Although the curfew is still on day by day in Bangkok, I sense in a week or so or when they remove the curfew that the Thailand Tourist Association if not already are making plans with the Airlines to present some pretty good deals so that you would visit LOS in the very near future and not during October. They want your business now! Many of my buddies are already researching prices and waiting for the deals. In my opinion you are going to see some price drops for trip beginning and ending in the 2 month range.

Around a month ago there was a discussing on the board relating to police checking Farangs at the bus station for Viagra etc. I was in Bangkok in the beginning of May and for the first time I saw ventors like the ones selling T-shirts on Sukhumvit selling Viagra, Cialis, etc. Just out in the open, layed out on tables. Maybe this was the reason for the crackdown in bus station and certain location. This was clearly black market to me! I didn't ask the price or partake got mines at the regular place Soi 4, next to gas station also on Sukhumvit near Majestic Suites.

LBM[/QUOTE]To LBM

Csun213 have been taking about coming to Bangkok for 2 yr ask alot of questions and never made it here, always making excuse don't he will ever get here maybe he love his wife too much, the poor guy will be stuck in california for ever.

Fast Eddie 48

[QUOTE=Bumholes1]You could have spent your lunchtime with a girl or 2 instead of chasing from bank to bank in the heat to find out exactly what you could have done from your computer[/QUOTE]Indeed. But I didn't know that before hand. Now I do. [QUOTE=Bionicman]I think the real perverts are those spending hours to save few cents. [/QUOTE] An opinion. And there is something to it, despite the hyperbole. [QUOTE=Bionicman]
But what's the real outcome of the exchange rate survey? Some cents (5?) of a baht. Suppose you change 1000$ you gain 50bahts... You don't even buy yourself a beer with that....
How many are spending 1000$ on each mongering visit (of a week or so)?[/QUOTE] Well, some of us change much more than $1000. So if you compare the typical exchange bureau rate of 32.2 with the Super Rich rate of 32.53, and you exchange $10000 (most for work purposes), that comes out to a difference of 2,300 Baht. That can buy you several tasty Thai treats in this town.

My point was that there is indeed a substantial and predictable difference in rates offered at different places, so why not take advantage of it?

[QUOTE=Kumbu]
My point was that there is indeed a substantial and predictable difference in rates offered at different places, so why not take advantage of it?[/QUOTE]

Yes indeed.

While I personally would not bother to do this type of research, and frankly don't even understand why someone else would bother either, nonetheless, it provides information that is useful, and without me having to exert myself.

So a genuine thanks for taking the effort.

Also, I am a little puzzled why others would discourage people from doing research and posting it?

There are plenty of things, both hobby wise and money wise that we all could not be bothered doing, but if someone else saves us the trouble, and we can get a bit extra out of it for no extra exertion ourselves, why dump on the guy?

We might think ourselves smart for not bothering about a few cents in the dollar, but it seems to me to be even smarter to let someone else do the work and then get those extra cents in the dollar without personal exertion - if that someone else likes doing that sort of research it is a real win win. ;) Similarly, there is plenty of stuff hobby wise I could not care about nor would I walk across the street to get. Yet other people would get on a plane and go half way round the world for the same experience. If we dump on people then we risk getting really bland FRs - and that will serve us right.

/rant :)

korp khun khrap. :)

In a few weeks, I will arrive at Suvarnabhumi Airport at 08:15 AM. My second flight goes to Manila and departs at 01:05 PM. In between I have some time to spend, but I don't want to do that in the airport.

Are there massage parlors (salons) in the neighbourhood of the airport where I can enjoy ;-) myself for the time I have to wait?

Any information is welcome. Many thanks in advance!

[QUOTE=Thulolado]Even the BTS station was packed - so much so that I only bought a ticket good enough for the next station as I didn't want to stand in the line for the change counter.[/QUOTE]The BTS has several options for beating those change queues (during rush hour, they can be LONG):

[url]http://www.bts.co.th/en/news/promotion_detail.asp?id=139[/url]
[i]Promotion for BTS 30-Day SmartPasses
Conditions of use

• 30-Day SmartPasses valid for 30 days.
• Unlimited travel distance for number of trips specified.
• 5 year card life starts from date of first entry at an Automatic Gate. Cards may be refilled with trips after the first trip has been used, or validity expires, upon promotion as specified by the Company regulations.
• Passes are non-refundable.

Adult SmartPasses
New Promotional prices for 30-Day Adult SmartPass, effective 1st May 2010.

15 trips, 345 Baht
23 Baht per trip

25 trips, 550 Baht
22 Baht per trip

35 trips, 735 Baht
21 Baht per trip

45 trips, 900 Baht
20 Baht per trip

Promotion Price
Price excludes 30 Baht issuing fee for a new SmartPass. [/i]

OR

[url]http://www.bts.co.th/en/ticket_new.asp[/url]
[i]SmartPasses
BTS Sky SmartPass


1. Price 100 Baht.
2. Minimum refill 100 Baht. (Maximum 2,000 Baht)
3. 5 year lifetime form [sic] date of first use.

- Price excludes 30 Baht issuing fee for new SmartPass.
- 30 Baht deposit is not included in value displayed.[/i]

Myself, I opted for the 2nd option, mainly because I didn't know about the first. When it ran low, just picked an off hour and added another 500 or 1000 baht on it. Gave me a smile EVERY time I bypassed those change queues, or the people trying to figure out how to use the ticket machines. Just swipe and go. Good for 5 years; all I have to do is remember to bring it with me on my next trip.

[QUOTE=Mike Bel]In a few weeks, I will arrive at Suvarnabhumi Airport at 08:15 AM. My second flight goes to Manila and departs at 01:05 PM. In between I have some time to spend, but I don't want to do that in the airport.

Are there massage parlors (salons) in the neighbourhood of the airport where I can enjoy ;-) myself for the time I have to wait?

Any information is welcome. Many thanks in advance![/QUOTE]


Expensive (straight) Massage Shops are in the airport, this timeframe is too short to leave and go off site.

[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48]To LBM

Csun213 have been taking about coming to Bangkok for 2 yr ask alot of questions and never made it here, always making excuse don't he will ever get here maybe he love his wife too much, the poor guy will be stuck in california for ever.

Fast Eddie 48[/QUOTE]

I will be here in Oct for sure. Booked hotel room and ticket. Had to cancel the last trip because my mom had to go in for Major surgery just before my trip. Of course my trip might still be canceled if my mom does not feel better by that time. There are some things that are more important in life than just going on vacation.

[QUOTE=Csun213]I will be here in Oct for sure. Booked hotel room and ticket. Had to cancel the last trip because my mom had to go in for Major surgery just before my trip. Of course my trip might still be canceled if my mom does not feel better by that time. There are some things that are more important in life than just going on vacation.[/QUOTE]csun213,

Ok csun hope your mom is better now, maybe you will finally made your virgin trip to Bangkok soon and find out what you have been missing.

Fast Eddie 48

[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48]csun213,

Ok csun hope your mom is better now, maybe you will finally made your virgin trip to Bangkok soon and find out what you have been missing.

Fast Eddie 48[/QUOTE]

Thanks Fast Eddie. She is doing fine right now and hope it will stay that way. I have been trying to go to Thailand for a while now and reading all these reports, doing my research have been making the waiting that much harder.

I was ready to go in April when my mom had to go for a major surgery a month before my trip so I had to cancel. I talked to her doctor and he doesn't seem to see any reason why I can not leave my mom in Oct so that is the plan right now.

I think I know what I am missing by reading all the posts here. It just making waiting 4 months so hard.

[QUOTE=Run Mann]Expensive (straight) Massage Shops are in the airport, this timeframe is too short to leave and go off site.[/QUOTE]
it is not a mission impossible but most MP are opening late in the morning in town

[QUOTE=Run Mann]Expensive (straight) Massage Shops are in the airport, this timeframe is too short to leave and go off site.[/QUOTE]
What about the Novotel airport hotel? Anybody tried the in-house massage for extras or is this the "(straight)" massage RM is refering to?

i made a run though nep last night. it was, as might be expected, less busy than in the past, but it wasn't too bad. i got there a little late because of some work i had to attend to. i stopped in at the starbuck's across the road to the sound of catcalls from the throngs of sws.

ordered my short americano, triple shot and drank it up in a hurry and trotted across the street. my first stop was mandarin, the one on the left where you walk up the stairs. to my surprise, it was totally packed. lots of customers, lots of girls, just bustling at top speed. i know the mama san here, and she came over and grabbed me and hugged me. we sat down and she started with the stories of hardship, and how all the girls, herself included, have starved for the last six weeks. i think not, but that's what she said. she asked if i see anyone i like, i looked around and truly did not, but here's the run down anyway.

mandarin has two shifts of dancers. shift a is the young schoolgirls. all these girls are probably sub-25, small, slim, and decidedly unvoluptuous. they are dressed in plaid school-girl skirts and white school-girl shirts, with ked-style shoes, many of them with twirly, girly paraphernalia in their hair. i must say there were some very, very cute girls in this bunch, more than i remember from three months ago. if i were not such a monster for flesh, i would have taken a couple of these cute spinners, so you guys who like 'em thin, you might think about heading over there.

shift b is more to my taste in that these are the women (as opposed to shift a who are the girls). they are dressed in short shorts, skimpy bikini tops (if anything), straps on their legs, and high heels. they are generally taller girls, often in their mid-twenties, some older. but again these girls were too skinny for me – i need a little somethin' to hang on to. mama san left me to drum up some business, and a few minutes later she sent over a couple of girls she thought would suit my taste. nada, not even a stirring of little kumbu. so i politely told them i am only here for the beer, and i would return later in the week to talk. they were a little pushy, but they accepted this and skulked away.

paid up, gave my hugs to mama san, and left. a while back i posted a review of rainbow 4, and in that report i totally skewered the place. i wrote about the complete lack of talent there, the crappy drink they served me (watered down cola), the super pushy mama sans, waitresses and dancers. i was so harsh in my review that a couple of you members of the isg protested, saying i had been too tough on them. so on the basis of these protests, i decided to give them a second shot.

in i went, and my first impression was that there was far, far more talent on display this time. they have two stages, and each had something like 15 dancers up there, plus a further 15-20 or so sitting around the club. so fifty girls ain't bad.

i was placed in a booth, and i ordered a cola – let's see what it's like this time. to my surprise, they brought me a can this time – a big improvement over the watered down shyte they served me last time. ok, so i settled in for the main attraction.

as the time passed, i saw at least 15 girls who were totally bf worthy. yeah, i know!? wtf, this was a total revelation for me. i started to note down their numbers, thinking it was still early and i wanted to be sure about the one i finally invest my lady drink in. that was my mistake. as i mentally noted down their numbers, they were snatched up just as fast by over-eager customers. i spied one hell of a looker – someone that just bowled me over in an instant, and as i was motioning to the waitress to get her over to me, she was snatched up by this filthy, dirty, smelly, ugly japanese guy. actually, he was none of those things, but he stole my girl so this is how i treat him.

so i lost three girls in a row in this manner, which just deflated me. i sat there for 40 minutes or so and watched as the on-stage crowd thinned from the original 50 down to 30 or so. it was like watching beer drain from a keg at a frat party.

meanwhile, some lady came around and tried to get me to buy her a drink. i don't know what the deal was here – she was not a dancer, nor a mama san, nor a waitress. i guess she was a hostess, but she was dressed in everyday street clothes (!). she came over and without so much as a hello motioned with her thumb-into-mouth that she wanted a drink. this was followed by the frowny face, indicating she is very unhappy and a drink would help her. i said “no”. she repeated. i said “no”. she said something that i could not hear over the music, so i said “whaaaaaat?” and she repeated an equally unintelligible sentence. so i said “no”. she said something again, and i said, “umm...no”. she pointed to my drink, which was 60% full and indicated that i should buy another drink, and i said “no”. she came and sat down next to me:
hostess: why you no buy drink?”
kumbu: i have one already.
hostess: why you no buy another drink? you stay here too long.
kumbu: you want me to leave?
hostess: (frightened by the prospect of scaring off a customer) no, no, no, but you buy drink, stay happy.
kumbu: no.

she finally got the message and left with an overly loud huff (just so i know what a bad man i am), but jeez, what a hassle. so in the end, i was there an hour and i paid nothing but the cost of a single cola, which was 140b. in retrospect, that is pretty cheap of me.

next i went over to angelwitch, which had its show going. there were some good looking girls there, but not that many girls overall (maybe 15?). met a senior isg member, a stand up gentleman with whom i shared some beers the next day, plus some hunting. more on that later. over to spanky's and they had their regular show too, and again i didn't see anything i really fancied.

it was now 11:30pm, so i grabbed something to eat, washed down with a nice americano, and i trotted over to climax. i was hesitant to go there on a sat night – it is usually a sardine can on fri and sat nights, but i thought it might not be so busy on this, the first night after the curfew.

arriving at a little past midnight, it was just the right amount of people there. it did get busier later, between 1am and 2am, but not really as bad as i remember. there were some pretty girls around, and as i walked through the line of girls at the front, a couple touched my arm and gave me the 'come hither' smile. i ignored them and went around scoping out the talent.

as fortune would have it, i bumped into a girl who i had met a year ago, and she remembered me. she is a wild thing – she slaps a lot. she laughs and slaps and pokes and giggles, but she is one sexy little thing. she had put on a little weight, which is just fine with kumbu, in fact, it's a win-win situation. it meant there was more for me to grab, and that she was low on self-esteem – fat girls always are. so i decided she would be the focus of kumbu's perversions tonight. she worked me for drinks, which i supplied, and i worked her for physical contact, which she supplied in plentiful sums. as the night wore on, we found a little corner where i sat down on a stool with my back to the wall and there began the most almighty crotch grinding. i have never had my crotch ground like this in public before.

she had put on a little weight, mostly on her butt, which meant she had a couple of delectable lobes with which to work. so she basically engulfed my erect penis though my slacks with her two buttocks and started to butt-squeeze. right there in climax. yes, she was butt-wanking me, both of us fully clothed, and with hundreds of watching eyes. as i sat back and enjoyed the goggled, envious eyes of the several males around, and the goggled, hypocritically disgusted eyes of the girls around, i realized this is why alcohol exists – to loosen women up to the point where they do shit like this.

10 minutes of this and i had to pull back for fear of creaming myself, at which point we bailed quickly. as i walked out being led by her, my erection was painfully visible, but fuck, have these people never seen this before?

so we get back to the hotel, and i offer her some water, which she refuses. i try to warn her about the hangover that will follow, but she dismisses me. so we start talking. she tells me about her mother who sometimes stays with her, but when she does, the mother brings a boyfriend with her. and that pisses my girl off. i asked her why, and she says it's because when the boyfriend is around, she can't sleep naked because he's always around. i told her not to worry – she can sleep naked tonight. boom, and we were off to the races.

desperate, frantic kissing – pulling off of her one-piece dress – bra hook popping – panties stuck around ankles – kumbu's jeans pulled off – shirt tanked around neck – and we found ourselves in the shower. i lathered her up, and i marveled at her ass. large, round, and totally un-thai like. i washed it, and then washed it again, and then to be sure, i washed it again. meanwhile she washed little kumbu, screaming at the length, not noticing the normality of girth. truth be told, i was not really aware of what she was saying or doing, i was busy lathering, washing and re-lathering those round mounds of fun. once we had sufficiently washed pieces of each other, i dropped to my knees took a large, plentiful mouthful of her pussy. ooh, a little acrid still, perhaps another rinse my dear?

she sensed this, pulled me up to my feet, and told me to step off. so i got out, dried off, and went in search of some kamagra, given the lateness of the hour. a few moments later she was naked and in my bed with me all over her.

i'm going to skip the details of the sex this time – it was rather anticlimactic. she turned out to be a far better public performer than private. she wasn't bad, just not the feverish experience i was expecting. she was, as expected, very shy about her ass, which was too bad since that was the whole reason she was in my bed. and that just was a little bit of a downer.

so it lasted perhaps 30 minutes – 20 minutes or so of kissing, groping and the like, followed by a few minutes fumbling for trojan's, and then the actual sex was over within 6-7 minutes. not sure if she came or not, i was so fatigued i was really just eager to sleep at this point. so i ended in a rather uninspiring orgasm, she held me as the chi left me, and we lay there recovering for 2-3 minutes. i went to shower first, and then her, and then we slept.

in the morning i gave her 1000baht and she was happy. she said it would help sooth the splitting hangover she has. see? you should have had the water last night like i told you. kumbu knows best.

[QUOTE=Mike Bel]In a few weeks, I will arrive at Suvarnabhumi Airport at 08:15 AM. My second flight goes to Manila and departs at 01:05 PM. In between I have some time to spend, but I don't want to do that in the airport.
Are there massage parlors (salons) in the neighbourhood of the airport where I can enjoy ;-) myself for the time I have to wait?[/QUOTE]

You can try to email Annies or Mango and see if they can arrange to get a girl for you; as long as you're willing to pay for transport and extra service.

[QUOTE=Sonic Bam]What about the Novotel airport hotel? Anybody tried the in-house massage for extras or is this the "(straight)" massage RM is refering to?[/QUOTE]


The massage shops are IN the airport. Novotel seems kinda pricey for a ST romp that may or may not pan out. Personally I'd wait until I arrive in Manila (to enjoy) than risk missing my connecting flight. Those four to five hour layovers don't always turn out to be as advertised when you factor in variables like late flight arrivals, the time needed to check out and back into immigration, traffic, and good old Murphy's Law.

[QUOTE=Mike Bel]In a few weeks, I will arrive at Suvarnabhumi Airport at 08:15 AM. My second flight goes to Manila and departs at 01:05 PM. In between I have some time to spend, but I don't want to do that in the airport.

Are there massage parlors (salons) in the neighbourhood of the airport where I can enjoy ;-) myself for the time I have to wait?

Any information is welcome. Many thanks in advance![/QUOTE]This one is about a 15 minute drive from the airport:

[url]http://www.agoda.com/asia/thailand/bangkok/thong_ta_resort_spa.html[/url]

They offer inroom massages. Managed to score some extra services last time I was there, YMMV though.

do you know what the prices are?

- how much for a 2 hours stay in a room?
- how much for the massage?
- how much for the extra services?

[quote=poopsicle joe]this one is about a 15 minute drive from the airport:

[url]http://www.agoda.com/asia/thailand/bangkok/thong_ta_resort_spa.html[/url]

they offer inroom massages. managed to score some extra services last time i was there, ymmv though.[/quote]

[QUOTE=Mike Bel]In a few weeks, I will arrive at Suvarnabhumi Airport at 08:15 AM. My second flight goes to Manila and departs at 01:05 PM. In between I have some time to spend, but I don't want to do that in the airport.

Are there massage parlors (salons) in the neighbourhood of the airport where I can enjoy ;-) myself for the time I have to wait?

Any information is welcome. Many thanks in advance![/QUOTE]

I tried to PM you, but you don't receive PMs. You will be very lucky to clear immigration by 09:15. (How about your luggage?) If you leave the transit area, you will need to allow AT LEAST 2 hours to check back in. Exiting thru Thai immigration can take an hour and --depending on which airline you are flying -- you can count on 45 minutes to an hour for check. That means being back at Suvarnapumi by 11:00 AM.

So, you have one hour and 45 minutes. You'd be crazy to leave the airport, even to the Novotel. RELAX and get a foot massage inside the transit area.

[QUOTE=Sonic Bam]What about the Novotel airport hotel? Anybody tried the in-house massage for extras or is this the "(straight)" massage RM is refering to?[/QUOTE]Maybe not pertinent for those just hoping to spend a few daytime hours at the Novotel hotel spa/massage, but one hotel booking site with reviews had a woman write (in a complaining tone) about the men and *****s hanging around the Novotel bar/lobby at night.

So I booked it right away.

So, with the obvious decline in punter numbers due to recent events, have the girls the bars changed their demands for ST and LT prices? Looking for a recent perspective on how much we should be paying

[QUOTE=Sleepy Floyd]So, with the obvious decline in punter numbers due to recent events, have the girls the bars changed their demands for ST and LT prices? Looking for a recent perspective on how much we should be paying[/QUOTE]probably more than before so they catch up for the lost business... rule of Thai economy!

Does anyone know if a good portion of the girls at G-Spot in Nana are post-op ladyboys?

They sure look like it.

On Sat night I met a fellow ISG member in Angelwitch and we agreed to get together on Sunday. So we met for a great dinner at a place, followed by a stroll back down Suk. Stopped in for some coffee at Starbucks and we chatted and got acquainted. A stand-up fellow – my hat is off to you sir. Having not asked for his persmission to discuss his activities, let's call him Oscar.

[B]Rainbow 4.[/B] So we make our first foray into the jungle of NEP. I wanted to go back to Rainbow 4 to look for that cutie who was snapped up by the fat, smelly, ugly, dumb-ass guy the other night. We got there and we both scoured the stage for her, to no avail. In the meantime, we were scoping the other possibilities. There were maybe 30 girls on stage, most very, very attractive. The quality is definitely high here, although we both got the sense that the attitude is also high here.

Oscar asks a waitress if the girl I am looking for is here, and she scuttles away. A few moments later she appears with my cutie in tow. What luck! There she is! So we start to chat. 26, Isaan, 1 baby, 7 months old, been here 4 months, but in BKK 3 years. Funny, she didn't look as cute in person as she did the night before, so I was having second thoughts. But Oscar, my man, stepped in and took over the situation. He said to her 'what's your phone number? He'll call you tomorrow during the day and you can go to his hotel.' To my surprise, she did not hesitate and out came the number. Oscar heard it once and it was in his head – boom. So off she went to dance, I pulled out my phone and he recited the number back to me. Cool.

[B]Lollipop.[/B] We bailed and went to Lollipop, which was a place I had been to in Feb. Back then, when I went in there, it was rocking, and I was accosted by two girls. One of them immediately took my hand and slipped it into her bra. The other girl, not to be outdone, took my hand and slipped it onto her bare vagina, helping me fondle her. Nice. And Oscar wanted to see what that was all about. But when we got in, the place was dead. There were around 15-20 girls, few good looking ones. We sat down, and eventually one girl stood out for me – a cute, light skinned, high-cheek-boned girl. She found her way to me, and we did the normal thing: Chiang Mai, 22, no children, been here 3 yrs, no like BKK, etc. Again, Oscar got her to give us her number, and we took the number and split. This man has magic.

[B]Mandarin.[/B] We went in and mama san was happy to see us. Some morons were tossing ping pong balls like bread crumbs at pigeons. Eventually Oscar finds a real cutie – small, slim, beautiful face, large natural tits, with a verve about her. I was not interested in anyone, so I just dabbled in the ass of some girl while my wingman did his thing. Things didn't work out between them, so we bailed. It was almost midnight now, so we walked over to Climax, details of which are in the next report.

[QUOTE=Kumbu][b]Gogoing the NEP way[/b][/QUOTE]Good to hear Rainbow 4 is back in gear. There'd been a lot of reports saying it was going downhill, or even that there weren't any cuties there these days. One from you, even, if I remember correctly.

Dig your reports cuz I always feel I can get a sense of how good the place is these days, and what it's really like -- where most just jot down a few comments shorthand style so there's no way to tell. Hooray for description and details. Also tend to trust your sense of taste (tho haven't ever actually seen what you'd call an 8).

Have you been to the new (old) Liquid (Nana) disco? Would be interesting to read Kumbu Does Liquid. Reports I've seen have been very uneven, as far as the quality of the place itself goes. The disco that used to be there, at least in its good old days, was a must-see kinda place. I wouldn't go every night, but at least once or twice a week. Most here only got to see it after it had already tanked, so had a very neg impression of it. But in its day, it was something. It was the epicenter for the FL scene.

[QUOTE=Sleepy Floyd]So, with the obvious decline in punter numbers due to recent events, have the girls the bars changed their demands for ST and LT prices? Looking for a recent perspective on how much we should be paying[/QUOTE]I just spent two nights in Bangkok and I tend to spend my time in beer bars particularly Morning Night. I spoke to one old favourite and she was holding firm on her price- quoting 2k short time. I didn't try and press for a lower price. She further suggested it was the same price for all the girls.organisation perhaps?

OT - I'm landing into Bangkok around 11pm on the 12 June. Will anywhere be staying open to show the England USA WC game?

Think it's 1.30am KO?

[QUOTE=Wendella]Have you been to the new (old) Liquid (Nana) disco? Would be interesting to read Kumbu Does Liquid. Reports I've seen have been very uneven, as far as the quality of the place itself goes. The disco that used to be there, at least in its good old days, was a must-see kinda place. I wouldn't go every night, but at least once or twice a week. Most here only got to see it after it had already tanked, so had a very neg impression of it. But in its day, it was something. It was the epicenter for the FL scene.[/QUOTE]

Just got back from BKK and went to Liquid one time. There were plenty of girls but the band was lip syncing popular songs recorded by another Thai band. Comical to say the least, irritating after a while. Stayed for two drinks and then left.

[QUOTE=Wendella] Would be interesting to read Kumbu Does Liquid.[/QUOTE]Went to Nana Liquid last night (Wed), as per your request. I shall write up the report and post later today. Just as a teaser, I hooked up big time, but my impressions of the disco are mixed. But I'll give you the blow-by-blow later today.

[QUOTE=Ozztraleearr]I just spent two nights in Bangkok and I tend to spend my time in beer bars particularly Morning Night. I spoke to one old favourite and she was holding firm on her price- quoting 2k short time. I didn't try and press for a lower price. She further suggested it was the same price for all the girls.organisation perhaps?[/QUOTE]


I think 2k ST has been standard pricing on Soi 4 beer bars for the last 4 or so years 3k LT. I can't see girls changing prices.

Last month I had a girl from Soi 7 beer garden complain to me guys were asking 500 baht ST when that didn't even cover her drinks bill for the day. Don't know if any of the girls actually will go for 500 baht maybe some do?

[QUOTE=Bob Down]I think 2k ST has been standard pricing on Soi 4 beer bars for the last 4 or so years 3k LT. I can't see girls changing prices.

[/QUOTE]
Yep, most of the good looking girls are getting 2k ST regurally. Prices can come down to 1.5-1k but you got to be a really smooth negotiator and the chick has to be in a good mood. Lately, I noticed lots of these girls won't do bbbj. So not worth it at 2k ST!

This is the second part of a report from Sunday night (I'm still working on my report from Wed night at Nana Liquid, should follow soon).

In part 1, my wingman Oscar and I hit some gogo bars in NEP, and failing to find suitable company, we headed over to Climax, circa midnight. We got a table near the entrance and watched as the cuties walked in. There was one girl wearing a tight white t-shirt and short jean shorts that caught my eye. She kept giving me the look from across the room, but I played it patiently. My wingman was doing the same thing – making eye contact, and then playing it cool for a while. There were loads of girls to be had, that's for sure.

Eventually, Oscar went to the other side of the room in search of someone, and found someone. He came back and got me, so we moved over there. This girl was one hell of a cutie, but she had two of the ugliest friends I have ever seen. And she tried to get me to dance with them. I quickly gave them some story of how I was waiting for someone, and I heard the cutie say to her friend 'kohok'. He's a liar. Indeed I am, and your friend is a fatty.

So I walk back to the front and I see that cute girl in tight white shirt. I make my move, and we hook up. We go over to the side of the club and she starts to grind her ass into little kumbu. Thank goodness for jeans, coz otherwise there would have been a mess. She was small, cute, tight, and bouncy in all the right places. She had dark skin, large, large eyes, and breasts that poked out in the right direction. Her ass was small, but round, and certainly Kumbu-worthy.

10 minutes and one lady drink later, she had her arms around me and we were on the verge of kissing when some girl comes up and starts yakking at her in a very angry way. Uh-oh, this can't be good.

Then to my surprise, this other girl turns to me and says:
Angry girl: You remember <name>?
Kumbu: huh?
Angry girl: You remember <name>?
Kumbu: ummm....huh?
Angry girl: Well, <name> remember YOU. And she down there looking at you.
Kumbu: Umm...whaaa?

So angry girl grabs my hand and drags me off to talk with this other girl. As we approach, I see this other girl, and I recognize her from a previous encounter. We had had several great nights together and stayed in touch by email for a while, until I broke it off a few months earlier. But apparently this other girl had not figured out that by me breaking it off, it meant that I am still allowed to see other people. It does not mean that I will be celibate for the rest of my life. Anyway, she was very angry, but more than angry, she seemed to be genuinely hurt. I think part of it was that this happened in front of all her friends, and so she was humiliated. All the girls were looking at me like I was a monster – how could you DO this to her? They surrounded me (six girls tsking me in the middle of Climax) and each took their verbal pot shots at me.

I tried talking, but within seconds I realized I was in a losing battle, so I cut my losses and said goodbye to the gang of angry women. I walked back to where my little pretty was waiting and explained things to her. She said ok, everything is cool, and we picked up our dancing. But pretty soon her friend comes over, they talk, and then my cutie turns to me and says she has to go with her friend now. I asked her for her phone number, and she said she does not have a phone number. Message received. So I walked away.

I went back to our table in the foulest mood you could imagine. Girl after girl tried to pick me up, and I was just not in the mood. I mean literally, three girls, one after the other, came over and started to rub their butts against my crotch. What normal man would say no to that, right? But I did, one after the other. Until finally I relented and took a small, cute, thin girl with good English skills. Oscar meanwhile had hooked up with someone else (not the original cutie), so we were both good for the night.

I took my girl back to the hotel, showered, and we had an average, uninspired event. I was kind of down over the whole incident at Climax, and this girl was not skilled enough to overcome that. So the sex is not worth reporting on. We slept and awoke at 11am, had a morning boom-boom, which was quick and to the point, after which I gave her 1500B and asked her to leave. I don't think I will see her again.

The point of this report, then, is this. The girls in Climax are a mix of professionals, semi-professionals, and non-professionals. I made the mistake of picking up a non-professional, and the mistake came back and bit me in the ass over a year later. I think Climax is now a no-go for me. I think I will move to Spicy and Bossy in the future.

I went hunting around Nana the other night and after an hour of trawling the streets and coming up with nothing right as I went to get in a taxi I saw a bright smile and some bright skin and a set of knockers to die for. She made eye contact and introduced herself properly. I was surprised as usually the street girls around Nana do not typically do that. We talked on the street for a moment as it was clear we made a connection. We hoped in a taxi to go and do the deed. She was 32, from Chiang Mai and came down every few months to make a little extra money. She was professional, aimed to please and moaned to the heavens as I gave it to her. Great experience and worth the 1000 baht. And to my surprise she had silicone breasts. I didnt even know until she told me as the deed was finished.

Showdown

[QUOTE=Showdown]I went hunting around Nana the other night and after an hour of trawling the streets and coming up with nothing right as I went to get in a taxi I saw a bright smile and some bright skin and a set of knockers to die for. She made eye contact and introduced herself properly. I was surprised as usually the street girls around Nana do not typically do that. We talked on the street for a moment as it was clear we made a connection. We hoped in a taxi to go and do the deed. She was 32, from Chiang Mai and came down every few months to make a little extra money. She was professional, aimed to please and moaned to the heavens as I gave it to her. Great experience and worth the 1000 baht. And to my surprise she had silicone breasts. I didnt even know until she told me as the deed was finished.

Showdown[/QUOTE]Very nice Showdown. I'll be passing through Bangkok from Singapore on next couple weeks. Do you have her contact details? Seems like my type. Thanks.

AF

[QUOTE=Goatboy55]OT - I'm landing into Bangkok around 11pm on the 12 June. Will anywhere be staying open to show the England USA WC game?

Think it's 1.30am KO?[/QUOTE]Goatboy,

Most sport bar and club closed at 2 am why can you get a hotel room and watch it on TV ,it should be on star sport or espn.

Fast eddie 48

[QUOTE=Amjeck]Yep, most of the good looking girls are getting 2k ST regurally. Prices can come down to 1.5-1k but you got to be a really smooth negotiator and the chick has to be in a good mood. Lately, I noticed lots of these girls won't do bbbj. So not worth it at 2k ST![/QUOTE]I know this info is a bit dated, but during Aug-Oct 2009, I was paying 2000LT for girls at Queens Park Plaza on Soi 22, and BBBJ was never a problem. Might be worth a shot for the guys who like the beer bars to take a quick trip there to check it out. Might take a bit of barhopping but you will generally find some decent looking ladies. BTW, barfine was generally 300 baht.

They sure don´t look like silicon to me. She had a great surgeon, or she was B.S. ing you.

[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48]Goatboy,

Most sport bar and club closed at 2 am why can you get a hotel room and watch it on TV ,it should be on star sport or espn.

Fast eddie 48[/QUOTE]Watch England vs. USA in a hotel room on your own? Perhaps with a mug of cocoa?

You're obviously not a big soccer fan!

I'll be in Pattaya and faced with the same problem, but I bet I can find a sports bar that is either open or has a lock-in.

[QUOTE=Mouse1]Watch England vs. USA in a hotel room on your own? Perhaps with a mug of cocoa?

You're obviously not a big soccer fan!

I'll be in Pattaya and faced with the same problem, but I bet I can find a sports bar that is either open or has a lock-in.[/QUOTE]

Plenty of small bars in Pattaya open 24/7.

[QUOTE=David_33]They sure don´t look like silicon to me. She had a great surgeon, or she was B.S. ing you.[/QUOTE]

I was seeing a girl with fake tits in bkk, they go in through the armpits. use a crease in the the armpit so no scars.

“It looks like rain” the German guy said to me, looking out the bus window as we cruised up from Pattaya to Bangkok. He gives me a grimaced smile and says in the most exquisitely stereotypical German accent: “Not goot for zi ffuckking.”

I wondered how he would think it looks like rain as there was not a cloud in the sky, so I chalked it up to delirious, fuck-frenzied madness on my European monger's part. We pulled into On Nut at around 3pm, and I caught the BTS back to Nana, saying my goodbyes to the German. I was exhausted. Night after night of intense exertions is not good for a man of my gentle disposition. But what is one to do when biology calls?

I got into my room, showered to wash the grime of the bus off me, and then crashed for a good 2 hours. The plan tonight was simple: gogo for a while, then Nana Liquid for a long-awaited scouting trip, and if that flops, then off to Bossy. Climax is strictly a no-go-zone now since my last event, but I suspect I will not miss it too much.

I awoke at 7pm to the sound of thunderous, lashing rain. Damn, our German knows his weather. I drank up a little soy milk to get some carbs into me, hit the gym for 45 minutes waiting for the rain to subside. The prescient German was dead right – zi rain iz nott goot for zi ffuckking.

The thunderous rain did indeed subside, and so I walked out into the humid sprinkles of soi 11. Grabbed some dinner at an Indian place on soi 11. Not terribly good, but it got the naan and spices into me, so I was ready for some coffee. But by now it was late, just past 10pm. That damned Starbuck's on soi 5 closes at 10pm (what a puritanical hour to close, no?), so I decided to forgo the caffeine ritual and make my way directly to Soi Cowboy.

Arrived at around 10:20pm on a Wed night. The soi itself was easier than normal to walk through as all the 'wey-o-coooome' girls were hiding under shelter from the rain, shouting their calls from afar. I pondered where to go, and before I knew it I was at the end of the soi. Baccara it is.

In I walked, and the place was reasonably full. The seats were mostly full, and there were at least 25 girls on stage, all bikini clad. I don't go upstairs here – those girls don't appeal to me. So I found a corner and hid my pretty self away from the prodding eyes of mama sans and over-eager dancers.

There were, as I say, 25 girls on stage, and a further 15 or so in the other shift sitting around or working the crowd. Of the girls on stage, I saw lots of sexy legs, to be honest. That is the first prerequisite for Mr. Kumbu – no gotta da leggy, no getta da boom-boom. Of these sexy legs, four of them belonged to a pair of girls that got Kumbu's blood pressure up a few points. Kumbu switched into leopard-on-the-hunt mode – complete and utter attention on one girl, then the next. The first girl was a superb physical specimen – long, slender, curvy legs beneath a full set of hips, a slender waist and non-existent breasts. Her face was the coup d'grace – sweet, childish, pouty. She had an expression on her face that said 'you want a piece of me?', and that was kind of alluring. But the downsides were plentiful:
(i) She was doing the gogo one-step: step forward with the left leg, fall back onto the right leg, and repeat ad nauseum.
(ii) She had fixed, unwaivering eye contact with the most beautiful person in the entire club – herself. She was looking at herself in the mirror and without even a moment of waivering, she held that eye gaze for the entire time I was watching her. That's the death blow, and so the leopard turned his attention to the other gazelle on the savanna.

Girl #2 was even more to my taste. She had large, curvy, well-toned legs – exactly the shape and size that makes old Kumbu doubt the absence of a god. Superb, nay, spectacular legs they were, the kind that a tired man can be sure will pep up even the most deflated of moments. These legs were not beauty in isolation, no no my friends, they were sitting upon a set of hips that harbored a very delectable bum-bum. It was more plentiful than girl #1, and seemed really very spry. Her waist was tight and fantastically toned, and her breasts were, well, who cares about breasts really.

But two things beyond her legs stood out for me. First, her face was gorgeous. Very different from girl #1 – this one had a long, darker face. Her skin was not particularly dark, but her hair was straight, long and fell right down the side of her face. The length of her face, coupled with the size (large) and deepness of her eyes made for a sophisticated, elegant kind of beauty (not the pouty childish beauty of girl #1). This girl is something else – just stunning. The second thing that got old Kumbu's motor running was her movements. She was not doing the generic gogo dance. She was undulating, smiling, joking around with her friends, teasing them, and just looking like a happy, well-centered person. I can't tell you how attractive that is. She seemed like a fun person to be with – someone who would joke with you, poke you, and then fuck your brains out. And at the end, give you a kiss like she meant it. Girl #1 would require high maintenance, girl #2 would maintain your high.

Watching all of this come together, it was enough to cause Kumbu's right eyebrow to rise independently of the other. Hmm, that does not happen often...it must be a sign. But I was in a quandary here. My plan was to make a run at Nana Liquid, and given my propensity for inactivity, if I pounded this pretty Magnolia, even if it were the shortest of short time, I could forget Nana Liquid.

As I pondered my dilemma, I had somehow made eye contact with Magnolia. And fuck, it was the most exhilarating eye contact in a long time. As eye contact was made, I felt a spurt of adrenaline shoot right into my crotch. She was just awesome. Whooa, Kumbu, rein it in a little.

So I smile at her, and she giggles and starts telling her friends about me in a childish, playful kind of way. I decided I needed to put an end to this. I could not buy her a drink because that would take a long time and effort, so I decided to place a holder on this one. I called the waitress over, paid up my bill, and gave her 100B to give to the effervescent beauty. I told the waitress to tell her I would be back to see her tomorrow.

Next up: Suzie Wong's. I walked in, and this place is much different from Baccara. The latter is bright, clean, bouncy, glitzy, full of Japanese, Korean and Chinese customers (as well as white guys and actually, plenty of brown guys). Suzie Wong's seemed to be a white guy kind of place.

There were 7 girls on stage, fully nude (other than stockings and stuff, but all the important bits were there for viewing). The girls were not particularly attractive – many were heavy, some were mis-shappen. One girl had a huge set of ass cheeks which seemed very pot-marked. Not good at all.

I sat there and watched for 10 minutes until the shift changed, when a new set of 7 girls arrived. These girls were actually significantly better. Of the total 15 or so girls in there then, there were 2 that were potentially BF worthy. I looked them over, but did not get the vibe from them. Also, there was a weird odor in that place which made me think twice about hygiene. I know, there is no connection between the club odor and the girls pussy hygiene, but still.

As I watched, I was actually more interested in the clientèle at this place. There were six or seven guys around the place, all older than 40yrs, all white, and all alone. Interesting. Then in walked Captain Piccard. He was a gentleman in his sixties, bald like Piccard, wearing a stunning white shirt and formal dress slacks. He walked in like a gentleman, very sophisticated. He didn't even sit down, he stood at the edge of the dance floor and sipped his gin tonic while chatting with the waitresses. He just seemed like the epitome of cool, but maybe that was just because he looked like the Captain of the Enterprise.

Mama san comes over to me and in a raspy, growly voice asks if I want to take any of her daughters. Excuse me? Turns out that is how she refers to them. I politely declined, and took this new attention as a sign to bail, which I did.

Next was Dollhouse. There were perhaps 25-30 girls in here with around 3 customers. Shit, you have to feel for these poor girls – there is nothing happening for them these days. I saw several very pretty girls here, but none of them really struck the cord like Magnolia in Bacarra.

Some young pup, maybe in his mid-twenties, decided to be the big man and bought all the girls a drink. I.e., he bought a bottle of whiskey and the loud horn went off. I'm struggling with the psychology of this, to be honest. He spent circa 1000Baht on the whiskey, presumably (maybe 1500?). He spreads that around to all the girls, and then? What exactly does that do for him? Does it make him feel like an important man? That he made these girls respect him? Does he think that they think well of him? I guess it makes him feel like he has the full attention of 30 beautiful girls, and for a moment he is the center of everyone's attention, and that must be something that floats this guy's boat. I know he is not the only one like this, I just don't understand it (yet), and I would like to. If anyone can help me figure out what this is about, I'd appreciate it.

One girl began to peak my interest. She had a fantastic face, I mean truly model like. She was tall, strong, sexy legs, and was dancing like she meant it. She had all the right ingredients, and she was looking me over too, so all was going well, until she flicked her hair off her breasts to reveal two ginormous sacks of silicone. The price is WRONG Bob. Paid up and took off.

It was now 11:30pm, too early for Nana Liquid, and I was both hungry and coffee-deprived. So I made my way back down Suk towards soi 11 where I know this 24 hour place that serves real coffee (i.e., not Nescafe). As I walked down, there were a dozen or so girls lining the Suk awaiting customers. I got several 'I go wij joo', and even one 'I do anyting you like.' Outside Thermae there was a large crowd of girls, I lean literally 30 girls, all wearing skin tight one-piece dresses, looking around for customers. I'm not a Thermae kind of guy, and so I don't have much experience with this, but I have walked past here many times, and I have never seen so many available workers at one time.

i went to my regular joint on soi 11 and ordered a plate of fries and a coke light. i know, i know, the fries will wreck havoc on my girlish figure, but i was planning on dancing the night away. ate up, got an americano chaser, and off i go to nana liquid. time of arrival was 1am.

so nana liquid is in the nana hotel, opposite the nep. the girls stand outside the hotel, you have to either walk past them to get to the hotel entrance, or you can enter through their direct entrance which is around 100 meters further down the soi (i.e., walk 100 meters away from suk past the nana hotel sign and the gaggle of girls in front of it, and there is a huge neon sign to your right saying nana liquid). if you walk in through the hotel lobby, there is no problem – no one looks at you like the pervert that you are, just walk straight through towards the thumping music.

so i walk in and the lighting is not too bad – it isn't too dark or too light. i find climax to be a little dark, and i find places like cm2 to be too light. this place is somewhere in between. you can see halfway across the club, no problem, and you can make out facial features as well as things like skin tone and age-estimations in this light.

the club itself is quite small i would say – nothing like bossy or spicey. it has an odd, long shape. if you enter through the hotel lobby entrance, you are at, say, the north end, and at the south end is the direct street entrance as well as a couple of pool tables. in between is a stage and a small dance floor, but the rest of the club is peppered with cocktail style tables. the arrangement is pretty good, imho.

when i walked in, the club was about half full. it wasn't disappointing, but not overwhelming either. there were plenty of guys there, and plenty of available girls at that hour. i grabbed a drink at the bar at the entrance. there is no cover charge, and i guess there is no drink minimum since no one forced me to buy a drink, but i could be wrong on the last point. a vodka tonic (and other similar spirits) cost 160b, and was a little less watered down than at climax (which is basically water with a [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] sprinkle of vodka). i *think* beers go for 140b, which is better than climax (180).

i got my drink and, putting my scout hat on, i decided to go walk-about. i wandered through the tables shamelessly looking at the girls. i am usually a much shyer person than this, but for some reason when i tell myself i am doing reconnaissance, i allow myself to be bolder in my visual inspections. so i looked each girl over a couple of times as i walked amongst them. here are my impressions of the women, the men and the couples in the club.

[b]women[/b]
my first impression was that they are all working women – none of this mixed use crap. that is, in climax, you often get 'real' girls who are out for a good time and who might end up with some falang for some sex and extra cash. my sense of it at first was that the girls here are not that. which, for me, is a good thing. however, i was soon proven incorrect (see below). there was a good mix of women in terms of ages and looks. there were about 5-7 young, pretty things, the kind that you see in movies and stuff. there were another 10 or so mid-twenty girls who were sexy and certainly worthy of a romp. and then there were another 10 or so women who did nothing for me. so overall, there were more good looking girls than bad, which is quite a positive appraisal, i must say.

[b]men[/b]
the men are very mixed, far more so than climax, even more so than bossy or spicey. at climax, you get predominantly white guys, with some ethnics thrown in for good measure. at bossy and spicey, you get a good mix of ethnicities, but still the dominant ethnicity (at least in my opinion) is white. here at nana, at least on this night, there was such a mix that i could not really say any one ethnicity dominated. furthermore, amongst the white guys, there was a lot of variation, both in terms of age and overall appearance. some were shabby and slobbish, others were prim and proper. some were young and energetic, others were old and sedate. so it's very eclectic.

[b]couples[/b]
i was surprised to see so many guys walk in with their girls. for the first hour i was there, around 50% of the guys who walked in were with some other girl. not sure what this is about, but you should be careful to pick a girl who is not with some guy. seems like there is the potential for confusion here.

so i wandered through the people for 2-3 minutes, spying one hell of a cute young girl. she was wearing a tight, white halter top, short jean shorts, and had frilly semi-permed long hair. she looked 21-22 years old, and was shapely and cute as hell. she and i started to make eye contact, but i was here to observe first, and only later pick up. so i decided to play it cool and found a table in the back of the club where i had a good view.

[b]the band and music[/b]
i concur with drogue that the band sucks. in my opinion, the best band at any of these clubs is climax – they have two bands, each very good. they often play songs i don't care for (e.g., thai love songs), but they are genuinely talented musicians who play well together. spasso has a crappy band, and cm2 has an even worse band. nana liquid, sadly, possesses the worst of all the bands in that they don't do their own music. in a sense that makes it a little easier to listen to, but it is annoying nonetheless. but as bad as the band is, the dj is even worse. he had this technique that was the most horrific example of idiocy i have heard in many years – he would often end his songs with a whirring, high-pitched screech of sorts, like a guitar screaming at top pitch, and it would last 10-15 seconds. i guess he thought it was a great finale, but it did two things: (i) everyone stopped dancing, coz you can't dance to a single high-pitched screech, and (ii) it bust everyone's ear drums out. literally, when this happened, everyone grimaced, and most people put their fingers in their ears. so expect the worse musical experience you can imagine.

as bad as the music is, i honestly don't go to these places for music. so on to what i observed.

i sat down in the back, and right in front of me were three cute girls having themselves a great old time. they were in their mid-twenties, all cute, all slim, and all bouncy. girl 1 had fake red hair, dressed in a frilly white dress. girl 2 was skinny and was wearing black. she had a very attractive face. and girl 3 was the sourest of the three. she seemed the most introverted and the least fun.

about 5 minutes after i sat down, girl 2 turns around and starts to peek at me. i decided i would ignore this as best i could since i did not want to get roped in so early – i needed to stay unattached as long as i could so i could then be free to make my own choice. so i didn't make eye contact, being careful to keep my head looking in a different direction from her at all times.

she peeked around several times over the next 10 minutes, and i managed to ignore it all quite well. in the meantime, i noticed a super sexy girl to my right. i noticed her when she strode past me towards the bar behind me and i noticed she had a mean case of bucktooth. her upper teeth poked out over her lower lips and there was nothing she could do to hide this. yikes. but fuck me, everything else about her was superb! she was wearing a skin-tight pink halter-top. the only thing better than a pink halter top is a teal halter top – i am a total sucker for teal halter-tops, not sure why. but pink is great too. she too was wearing tight jean shorts, revealing athletic, sexy, shapely legs. furthermore, her booty looked very bouncable in those shorts, so things were looking good. she was perhaps 24 years old or so, and she was with a friend who looked 27 or so. her friend was skinny and slim, which ordinarily is ok for me, but i preferred the pink halter top girl by far. and she liked me too – she was looking over a lot. groovy.

meanwhile, i noticed an elderly white guy holding a beer in his hand hanging around uncomfortably. he seemed like an affluent american/european looking for a good time. but he seemed a little awkward, and i felt for him. nonetheless, i was pretty sure he would hook up tonight. i also saw several indian guys, a couple of arabs, several pretty ugly looking european guys (not that europeans are ugly, just these guys were, no offense to anyone). my point is simply that there was variety, and i think most of these guys would/could hook up tonight.

so i started to make eye contact with halter-top girl, and she did the same. it was those quick, sly conspicuous glances, you know, the subtle teasing and flirting that is so fucking fun. we did this for a good ten minutes, until finally girl 2 from in front of me decided enough is enough and turned around and waved at me. damn it.

she says something which i can't hear, so i have to go over and talk with them.

2: you alone?
k: i'm waiting for a friend.
2: your wife?
k: no...my friend.
2. hahahaha. i'm ppi.
k: hi ppi, i'm <name>. nice to meet you.

i then shook each girls hand. girl 1 laughed loud and happily, and girl 3 squirmed when i shook her hand. so i said to ppi 'she looks unhappy to meet me.' at this point i knew the plan was for the girls to push girl 3 on to me. that has always been my luck – if there is a group of girls that eye me, the ugliest of the lot ends up being foisted upon me. i was not going to be played like that, so i decided to be forthright:

k: nice to meet you. i'm going to wait over here now for my friend.

and i retreated to my table and sat down. that was that. awkward situation avoided. they continued to peek around at me for the next 20 minutes, but nothing came of it, thankfully.

so i looked back at halter-top and there she was, watching this all play out. and now she was very interested – why did he reject three beautiful girls?? and he's still looking this way...???

meanwhile, this indian guy, perhaps 45 years old, 5'6”, 180 pounds, baseball cap, cheesy moustache, shades (in a night club!), arrives near halter-top and her friend. he grabs the table next to them and gets himself a beer. suddenly he turns to them and snaps his fingers at them. yes, i kid you not, this is how he got their attention – snapping his fingers. he then gestured to them to join him, and to my incredulity, they agreed. in america, such behavior would be greeted with cold drink to crotch, but there was nothing wrong with it here. and furthermore, the girls were now dancing with this guy. hmm.

i had mixed feelings at this point. halter top was dancing with this guy, who not to seem arrogant or conceited, was not quite in my league. i had 10 years on him, a better muscle-to-fat ratio, an infinitely less amount of ill-placed facial hair, no baseball cap, and no shades. but they were with this guy now, having a good old time. so i was a little uneasy with my girl's standards. however, on the bright side, this says a great deal about your chances if you decide to hit nana liquid. i think just about *anyone* can hook up here, you just need to be patient and pick the right targets.

so on the one hand, we had ugly indian guy making good progress with two cuties off to the right, but then we had awkward, elderly, affluent american guy putzing around right in front of me. suddenly, he makes his move towards the three girls in front of me, and to my surprise, he targets girl 3 – the most introverted girl, the least friendly and the least attractive. he goes over, raises his beer, and motions towards dancing. she stops moving entirely, unable to respond, and then looks at her friends for help. she did not know what to do, and her friends were a little surprised too. after 10 awkward seconds, the girl shakes her head and waves her hands at him, indicating clearly 'no.' wow, shot down.

so these girls were not here as regular workers – they were here for a good time. they were three friends who decided to have a wild time in nana, and were looking to hook up with someone their own age, and not an older guy looking for sex. unfortunate for elderly american, but he picked wrong. it became clear a few moments later when the three girls paid one of those camera guys to take a picture of the three of them in front of their drinks. they were clearly celebrating something, so they were the wrong ones for elderly american to target, and i am so glad i didn't fall for their advances.

to his credit, elderly american did not storm out or give up – he stuck around and putzed around for a lot longer than i did, so good on him.

meanwhile, to my right, ugly indian guy was now in a huddle with the two pretty girls. he had his arms around both of them like an nfl huddle, obviously making a proposal to them. suddenly both girls balked loudly, followed by raucous laughter. what else could it be other than a proposal for a three some, right? they clearly did not like this idea, and to cut a long story short, they eventually broke off from ugly indian guy. i am sure he eventually hooked up - that's just the kind of place this is.

meanwhile the time was now 2am and the place was around 70% full. later on at around 2:40am, there was a definite wave of girls who came into the club, so if you want a quick pick up, i would wait until 2am before you come in. wait for the rush of girls and pick the one you want. but i kind of enjoy arriving a little early and watching girls for a couple of hours. anyway.

as all of this was happening, a waiter brought over a cute little thing and placed her drink on my table. she had long dark hair (what else?), was about 5'1”, looked around 45kg, and seemed very tasty indeed. she had a typical udon thani look. not sure how to describe this, but several girls i have seen over the years from udon thani have this kind of look. anyway, she was wearing jeans and...a teal halter top. damn! i am a sucker for teal halter tops – she one-upped the pink halter top. so suddenly pink halter top was out of the picture (despite having dropped ugly indian guy), and teal halter-top was at the top of my list. and she was right next to me too. so i welcome her to my table by lifting my drink, and we clink drinks. she smiles at me with big puppy dog eyes and sips her bacardi breezer orange.

pink halter top notices this, and starts to get agitated. she makes an aggressive move towards the bar and comes right past me, slowing in front of my table, making full, long, enjoyable eye contact. “i'm right here big boy, come and get me.”

but teal halter top was catching my fancy. meanwhile, there was a line of girls forming behind me by the bar. literally, they lined up in front of the bar dancing, all dressed very provocatively, all obviously available. all you have to do is walk in, take a look at the line up and make your move. by 2:30-2:40 or so, there were plenty of girls, many worth taking home, some not.

so at around 2:45 i decided enough is enough and i made my move for teal halter top. arrived from isaan 4 days ago to see her sister, who is sick. she was supposed to meet her sister at liquid, but she was unable to come, so she is alone now. mmm-hmm, i believe that. she used to have a boyfriend from california, had him for 4 years, then broke up, and now have been without boyfriend for 2 years. age: 25 years. we danced for 20 minutes, progressively getting more and more physical, until she reaches up and plants an open, wet, sloppy kiss on my lips. yikes, a little much there, but ok.

i eventually ask her for her phone number, and she says “why you no want to go with me?” and i said “up to you”. i know how the thai play things, and this worked beautifully. so we take a taxi back to the hotel, and when we get into the hotel the wet sloppy kissing continues. we do this for 10 minutes until i manage to get her to take a shower. she wants to shower together, but i prefer to shower myself. so she goes first, then me, and then we get down to business.

we start with some very, very, very dfk – not particularly comfortable for me, but she really seemed to want it. i managed to break away from her mouth and go down to kissing her neck, then her breasts. this was partly because i wanted to explore her body, and partly to get away from the displeasure of the dfk. she was very sensitive around the breasts and moaned and groaned as i suckled them. they were not huge, but fleshy enough to be enjoyable. her nipples were small, a dark pink, and very well shaped.

i work my way down to her hips and ask permission for daty, to which she agreed. her pussy was spectacular – it was a beautiful hue of pink, very, very healthy looking. it just looked like strawberry pudding, you know, pink and colorful and very inviting. she was clean, although not entirely without odor. but we did this for a good 15 minutes before she came, and she gently lifted my head from between her legs.

we waited a few moments (literally 30 seconds), and she gently but firmly shoved my head back down between her legs. ok. so i performed for her once more, and this time she came within 7 minutes. she then says to me “i want you to tuk-tuk me.”

sorry? what? never heard that one before, but i know what you mean. who am i to withhold a good tuk-tuking from a lady who asks for it?

my trojan-covered kumbu began the tuk-tukking very gently, because it is non-lubricated and so i have to let her own juices engulf the condom before it will slip easily. so it was slow going for a while, but before long, the tuk-tukking was happening at a break-neck pace. i tukked and she tukked and we each tukked each other.

she came once, but i was having trouble coming. i think this every-day ejaculation thing is making orgasm harder to get to. so my staying power has increased significantly over the last 10 days or so. but i tuk-tukked her for a really long time – i was sweating and out of breath. we tried a couple of different positions, even doggie, and it just wasn't happening. finally, in cg, the deed was done. the orgasm was more relief than pleasure – in fact, the pleasure was minimal, it was more painful and overly sensitive. anyway.

we then showered and slept, and the time at this point was 6am. fuck. i'm supposed to be at work at noon. i awoke at noon with a big red zit on my nose. shit.

i showered again, changed while she showered, and then when she got out (me fully dressed for work), she says “me horny” and she drops her towel to reveal her fresh, clean naked body.

kumbu, being the man-servant that he is, obliged the lady. i sucked her pussy another two times, and then sexed the lady for a good long time, until we finally both finished. it was now 1:30pm, and work was pretty much shot for the day. but i ditched her and told her we might hook up tonight, although i don't think my dick can handle it.

anyway, she's going back to isaan on sunday, so i think that is that. good while it lasted, but i don't think i could do her every night – she would just wear me out. paid her 1500baht on the way out and she seemed perfectly happy with that.

so, my overall evaluation of nana liquid is positive, with some reservations. i think there are plenty of girls on display here, of that there is no doubt. furthermore, the girls here are more reliably pick-up-able, despite how the elderly american bombed out. that was just bad luck, and had he targeted 95% of the other girls, he would have been sexxed out before he knew it. the quality of girls is, well, so-so overall. there are definitely some lookers in there, but of the 50 or so girls in there, perhaps four were worthy of my time and money. but the good news is that i could probably have had any of those four, had i picked them. in the end, the one that i picked was worth my time and money, and for that i am grateful. i would say liquid is worth adding to your inventory of clubs. climax, bossy, spicey, and now liquid, are the regular set of clubs i will visit (cm2 is not for me, nor is spasso, and rca is not for mongering).

[QUOTE=Ozztraleearr]I spoke to one old favourite and she was holding firm on her price- quoting 2k short time. I didn't try and press for a lower price. She further suggested it was the same price for all the girls.organisation perhaps?[/QUOTE]

Well, I got 1.5k at a Nana gogo a couple of days ago.

"Tammai farang chorp puying tua lek?" she asked me. Why do foreigners like spinners?

[QUOTE=Mouse1]Watch England vs. USA in a hotel room on your own? Perhaps with a mug of cocoa?

You're obviously not a big soccer fan!

I'll be in Pattaya and faced with the same problem, but I bet I can find a sports bar that is either open or has a lock-in.[/QUOTE]Mouse,

Yes I am not a Soccer guy too boring for us American, I am a NFL and NHL fan, I like to pick up a hottie at the bar and have a One on One in my hotel room instead.

Get it

Fast Eddie 48

[QUOTE=Kumbu]It was now 11:30pm, too early for Nana Liquid.[/QUOTE] Kumbu, fantastic reports. Lots of information as well as a good story.

Just one question: I appreciate that prime time for Nana Liquid will be 2am onwards, but unfortunately I like to be tucked up in bed by then... What time does Liquid open, and would it be worth going there before midnight, in your opinion?

[QUOTE=Mouse1]What time does Liquid open, and would it be worth going there before midnight, in your opinion?[/QUOTE]Many thanks for the kind words. Short answer to your question: no, it would not be worth it. Not sure what time they open, but a few nights prior to my report (I think Sunday night?), a senior ISG member and I went in there at around 11:30pm. We saw an empty club with three girls and two guys huddled around one table. Other than that, nothing. There were a couple of dudes playing pool in the back, but nothing else happening.

I don't really know when the earliest you could go to score would be. By 1am it was plenty full, so I would imagine if you arrived at midnight, you might have to wait around 15 minutes or so before striking it up with someone. But the bottom line is you are not going to get tucked away early if you go to Nana Liquid.

I would recommend Climax for that. They open early, and they have a special where if you enter before some ridiculously early hour (I think 10pm), you get in for free. You will have slim pickings, but you will probably be the only guy there, so you will be in high demand. The girls will like you coz they will think they can score with you and then make it back out in time for prime time at all the other clubs.

could someone let me know how the pricing at [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s works? after finishing, we went to the bar and the bill was b750. how much, if any, of a tip is expected?

to those of you with plans to come here in the next month or so, don't change your plans. bkk is functioning normally. siam paragon is open and going strong and siam square is back to normal. the bars are slower than normal but still good.

[quote=jimbehr2000]could someone let me know how the pricing at [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s works? after finishing, we went to the bar and the bill was b750. how much, if any, of a tip is expected?[/quote]

it's a tip so there is no standard because not all girls will blow you the right way. however, i've always tipped them 100 to 300b (depending on performance) which has always been appreciated by the girls.

Kumbu, thanks for your great reports and taking the time to write them up,

are you thinking of going to the clubs out in Saphan Kwai ?

It would be interesting to hear your thoughts on them

Keep up the reporting

Cheers

BK

Noble gents!

Nobody should miss the exceptional field report by Doppel One on The Cambodia board

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=1028075#post1028075[/url].

Both Bukowski and Houellebecq would be delighted.

LP

[QUOTE=Lone Punter]Noble gents!

Nobody should miss the exceptional field report by Doppel One on The Cambodia board

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=1028075#post1028075[/url].

Both Bukowski and Houellebecq would be delighted.

LP[/QUOTE]
Priceless! A true monger!

[QUOTE=Bob Down]I think 2k ST has been standard pricing on Soi 4 beer bars for the last 4 or so years 3k LT. I can't see girls changing prices.

Last month I had a girl from Soi 7 beer garden complain to me guys were asking 500 baht ST when that didn't even cover her drinks bill for the day. Don't know if any of the girls actually will go for 500 baht maybe some do?[/QUOTE]Thanks for the confirmation.

I think 500 Baht is simply to low. Never offered it, fairly sure the service one could expect to receive for 500 baht would be mechanical and rushed.

IMHO - 1k to 1.5k is fair payment for short time, and around 2-2.5 k for LT. Especially when bar fines are also factored in.

[QUOTE=Lone Punter]Noble gents!

Nobody should miss the exceptional field report by Doppel One on The Cambodia board

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=1028075#post1028075[/url].

Both Bukowski and Houellebecq would be delighted.

LP[/QUOTE]You're right. A classic!

[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48]
Yes I am not a Soccer guy too boring for us American, I am a NFL and NHL fan, I like to pick up a hottie at the bar and have a One on One in my hotel room instead.[/QUOTE]

A thought: I bet the selection out there would be much better on those nights when England's playing. And of course you'd want to get to Thermae and Rainbow 4 when Japan's playing. ;) Is Australia in it this year?

Wow, yet again. Just curious, do you write much in your day job?

So I'd be interested to hear how you'd rank the diff clubs (Climax, Bossy, Spicey, Liquid) on scale 1 to 10 (or however you like) in the categories of

* general monger usability
* total number of girls (e.g. the pink and teal halter types--in other words, working--as opposed to the 3 girls-nighters) likely to be spotted
* ratio of girls to guys (realize this flucutates)
* total number of easily available hotties amongst those

And why are you not into CM2 and Spasso?

Myself, I've been to Climax and Cm2, never did partake tho. I find Climax way too dark and difficult to navigate.

Just so everyone here knows, he also posted a few like these over in Pattaya section

[QUOTE=Kumbu]So Nana Liquid is in the Nana Hotel, opposite the NEP. [/QUOTE]

Fantastic Report :) I loved it

[quote=jimbehr2000]could someone let me know how the pricing at [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s works? after finishing, we went to the bar and the bill was b750.[/quote]

they raised their price b50?

Not enough self-loathing though for Houellebecq.

Ever punter should have a story like that. Mine was with a toothless streetwalker in Barcelona...

[QUOTE=Lone Punter]Noble gents!

Nobody should miss the exceptional field report by Doppel One on The Cambodia board

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=1028075#post1028075[/url].

Both Bukowski and Houellebecq would be delighted.

LP[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BKK Dreaming]are you thinking of going to the clubs out in Saphan Kwai ?[/QUOTE]

In case you do, very quick howto ..

1) Girls earn from sitting with you, I forget the details, please correct me. Something like 150 baht/40 minutes. They'll still ask for a drink, but they're also fine sharing your drink.
2) ST is 1500 all in (no seperate amount for bar and girl) .. there are a couple of ST hotels nearby, the "Suparb" is 1 minute walk and 150b for the room.
3) None of this farang-style drinks by the glass .. you get big bottles of beer or whisky. They'll keep the whisky for you if you don't finish it.
4) The girls who speak English have been around the block a lot.
5) They push fruit plates for 100b or so. Just say no ;-)
6) They'll also push girls, dragging them up to you. Be very firm if you want to sit alone for a while. The sitting-girls tend to skulk in the shadows. Go and pick one unless you want one foisted on you, because they don't really circulate. The dancers are also available, but they have to go dance from time to time.
8) A lot of girls were "jikajee" (i.e. keep your paws to yourself). The pace is mostly slower than farang places.
9) There are two nice clubs. All the others are seedy as hell, but sometimes that's also fine. You'll see the nice ones easily. The one on the corner is a bit pretentious for my taste. The one just down the soi from it used to be my favourite seedy one, but has been renovated and connected with its neighbour. It has karaoke rooms upstairs. The waiter kept popping in every 5 minutes ..

[QUOTE=Rocksoff]In case you do, very quick howto ..

1) Girls earn from sitting with you, I forget the details, please correct me. Something like 150 baht/40 minutes. They'll still ask for a drink, but they're also fine sharing your drink.
2) ST is 1500 all in (no seperate amount for bar and girl) .. there are a couple of ST hotels nearby, the "Suparb" is 1 minute walk and 150b for the room.
3) None of this farang-style drinks by the glass .. you get big bottles of beer or whisky. They'll keep the whisky for you if you don't finish it.
4) The girls who speak English have been around the block a lot.
5) They push fruit plates for 100b or so. Just say no ;-)
6) They'll also push girls, dragging them up to you. Be very firm if you want to sit alone for a while. The sitting-girls tend to skulk in the shadows. Go and pick one unless you want one foisted on you, because they don't really circulate. The dancers are also available, but they have to go dance from time to time.
8) A lot of girls were "jikajee" (i.e. keep your paws to yourself). The pace is mostly slower than farang places.
9) There are two nice clubs. All the others are seedy as hell, but sometimes that's also fine. You'll see the nice ones easily. The one on the corner is a bit pretentious for my taste. The one just down the soi from it used to be my favourite seedy one, but has been renovated and connected with its neighbour. It has karaoke rooms upstairs. The waiter kept popping in every 5 minutes ..[/QUOTE]Wow, to be honest, this is the first I am reading of such a place. I don't think I will be going though, since Sapphan Kwai is very close to where I work - I might bump into some moonlighting office girls and then the veneer of respectability will be shattered. All those bags under my eyes will suddenly meet with an explanation.

Can anyone recommend a good Greek restaurant? That's not a euphemism, I really mean food. I am craving a good chicken souvlaki. I tried the place at the Emporium (Olive something or the other), and it was pretty bad.

And while I am at it, could anyone recommend a good, basic Korean restaurant? There are a couple on soi 11 which I don't care for (near the twist), and then there's one in Ploenchit Plaza, which is always empty. I also tried the one at the Emporium, which was, eeh. I'm looking for a solid, inexpensive dolsot bibimbap.

This one's for you, Siam Dreamer. Didn't turn out as spectacular as I would have liked, but the legs and the ass made up for the lack of chemistry. This is a report from Thursday - the day after my double with the Nana Liquid girl.
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I took a crap this morning and it didn't smell. That can't be a good thing. I think the fatigue is really affecting my psyche. I am beginning to hallucinate, and the hallucinations are across all modalities. Everywhere I look I see shapely legs, and I hear 'I go wij joo'. In the most unexpected places and at the wrong times, I smell freshly showered skin and taste the soft sourness of vaginal secretions. I blink and behind my eyelids are round asses and winking assholes. I need some sleep.

The pretty little thing from Nana Liquid drained old Kumbu. He is NOT one for morning shags, especially of the tuk-tuk variety, but she insisted. And it wasn't the normal quickie either, it was a full, lengthy, involved maximum exertion – the likes of which would stagger even the most bull-like of men, let alone your frail hero. This odyssey, as fabulous as it is, needs to be dialed back a little, or else I will burn out and have nothing left to show for it.

Having said that, I decided tonight I would do something new: actually BF a girl from a gogo bar. Have not done that in BKK yet (not this trip anyway), only in Pattaya, so let's see what becomes of it. The smart thing would be to rest and sleep tonight in preparation for tomorrow's road trip to Pattaya, but I told you, the fatigue is playing games on me, affecting my decision making.

I got back from work late (because I went in so very late, following the 1:30pm tuk-tuk ride I took), arriving in my hotel at 8pm. So I showered and slipped on a casual but attractive short-sleeved linen shirt. I made my way to NEP to visit Apple in Lollipop from the other night. She was the one with whom Oscar and I had chatted and who gave me her number. She had been SMSing me every day since then – she must be desperate. I arrived to be greeted as the lamb that I am, warmly welcomed into a booth seat. She arrived next to me placing her pretty little tushy next to me and giving me the most delightful of closed-mouth kisses. We had drinks, chatted and built some rapport.

Then the dragon lady arrives. A waitress, built like a Sherman tank, places her smiling face in front of me and bows very humbly and says “please dear sir, may I have a drink as well? I am so very thirsty, I would be most grateful...” I kid you not on the grammar, it was impeccable, with a slight English accent too. But this just pissed me off. Usually, I would joke about how I am here to see Apple not anyone else, blah blah blah, but I was very tired and very grouchy. So I paused for a good 10 seconds, while everything in the club seemed to stand still. I looked her in the face, without an expression on my face, feeling the increasing anxiety within Apple next to me. I then reached over and grabbed my bill, and pulled out my cash to pay.

The waitress objected, backpeddling as quickly as she could, saying no need for drink, etc., etc., etc., but I was not in any mood for this bullshit. I paid up, turned to Apple and said “Sorry, I have to go, I will call you, ok?” She looked me in the eyes apologetically, and eagerly nodded her head. What a sweetheart. She kissed me on the lips and said “See you soon”. My change returned, and I took all of it (of course), and of course, the waitresses started to curse me out for being a bad man. Of all the dog and pony shows I have to endure, this is my least favorite.

Walked out into the muggy evening and went over to my regular late-night place for some fries and a coffee. The hot brew helped sooth my nerves somewhat, so I then walked up Suk to Soi Cowboy. I made a beeline for Baccara in search of that beauty from the previous night – the one with the legs and the smile and the awesome attitude; the one for whom I left a 100B tip without sharing a drink with.

I arrived at around 11pm and sat down on the left side of the bar. The waitress who I had spoken to the previous night remembered me and pointed me out to the girl, who was dancing on stage. She began to eye me a little, hiding behind her friend and then occasionally looking over at me, trying to figure me out. Why would he leave a 100B tip and not even talk to me??

I ordered my vodka tonic and sipped it while I inspected her and the other girls on stage. With fatigue, I find I am much more clinical in my inspections. I go through the checklist like a meat inspector – legs...check; ass...check; eyes...check; attitude...check. The shift ended and she finds her way over to me. In person, she has darker skin than I thought, but that's cool. She's also not as tall as she looks on stage – just a regular 156cm. She's older than she looks too – a full 29years old, with no children however. Furthermore, she weighs a whopping 50kg! What? No way darling! And she says “Yes, I have big ass!” Of course I needed to verify this, so she stands up and shows me, lifting her little skirt and wiggling.

Bar fine.

We get into the hotel and we talk for a good 20 minutes. She has a darling laugh – high pitched, wide-mouthed, very natural. And she was laughing at all my jokes, very nice. I manage to get her to shower, and then me, and we find ourselves on the bed. I slowly draw the towel off her body and begin the inspection. Yikes, she has a spectacular lower body. Her legs are perfect (at least for me). They are strong, toned, curvy and perfectly proportioned. I rubbed them and stroked them for a good 10 minutes. Meanwhile, she was eager to show me her prize asset: her ass. It was indeed a big ass. Jeez, I have never seen a Thai girl with this kind of ass – it was large, wide, round and very, very firm. For a 29 year old, that is impressive. Turns out she exercises a lot – she runs 3-4 times per week, goes to the gym, plus dancing every night, so she is fit and trim.

I decided to get my money's worth. I had her lie there with her back arched so as to accentuate the curvature of the ass, and I then kissed, stroked, massaged, groped, nibbled poked, dove into, licked, cuddled, hugged, sneered at, giggled with and well and truly bonded with those two enormous lobes. She was totally bored, asking several times if I was done. I kept shushing her, and going back for more. Not sure how long it lasted, but little Kumbu was dripping wet for at least 15 minutes due to this severe stimulation.

I finally relented and turned her over. Moving further upwards, her hips are large and round, very impressive. I am sure they will bear healthy, large babies one day. Her midsection was perfect – toned, tight, unfettered with stretch marks, no scars, nothing – just miles and miles of tight, toned flesh. Her breasts are smallish, less than a handful each, so not much to write home about there.

I start to kiss her breasts and suck her nipples, which really works for her. I keep at it for a long time trying to get her as wet as possible so the unlubricated Trojan can find its way in. I slowly proceed downwards towards Grand Central Station, and she gently suggests that I not eat. My lips are so fucking chafed from all the pussy and ass eating I have done over the last 10 days, I was kind of glad to have that pressure lifted. Still, it would have been nice to try to rim that ass a little, but not this time.

So on goes the Trojan, and in goes little Kumbu. She was not just a little wet, but dripping wet at this point. So kumbu slipped nicely in. Furthermore, she was remarkably tight for a 29 year old. I guess the childless 29 year old is a different beast from the motherly 22 year old. So space was limited for little kumbu to do his thing, but he wiggled and wonked for around 10 minutes in missionary position until the princess sighed and relaxed her overly arched back. We looked each other in the eye for 30 seconds, a gentle silence shared. And then the wiggling and wonking began again. She was enjoying it quite a lot, almost as much as I was I would say. And she was responding very well to the different moves I was dropping on her. Some were getting enthusiastic 'aaah's, while others were getting warm 'mmmmm's. I put together a repertoire of three moves which I cycled through in repetitive succession, and this really worked for her. So she came a second time.

Then she said, “You have done your work. It is time for me to work now.” So she flips me flat on my back and mounts little kumbu. She rides the little guy gently at first, but then with more and more vigor. But I'm getting no where with this. So I slip her onto her side, and enter her from behind, ogling her large hips and perfect legs. We do this for a few moments, and then she voluntarily lies flat on her front so I can bang those ass cheeks to my heart's delight. I bang, and the tension within little kumbu begins to rise. Ok boss, not sure how much longer I can go with these ass cheeks staring me in my little face.

She senses this, and so she slowly moves into doggie position. I'm watching this with apprehension – the end is nigh. I pump, she arches, I pump some more, she arches some more, until she had her ass pointing up at the ceiling. At this point I got an excellent view of her asshole – a milk-chocolate brown, small and oval shaped, with little cute crinkles. Looked yummy. So I did what most guys would do – I stuck my finger into it. She flipped her head back, but did not object.

Little Kumbu in pussy, finger in ass, that's all it took, and the not-so-fat, not-so-lady sang his little lungs out, spewing warmth and fatigue into oblivion.

We showered, chatted for 10 minutes, and then she left. Before I had Bfed her, we had talked price. Standard is 2000ST. I told her I would pay her less. She objected, but eventually agreed. We didn't settle on an actual sum, but I paid her 1500B when she left and she was cool with that. The reason is that I bought her 2 lady drinks while in Baccara (her cut is 50B each, 100B total), and I left her a 100B tip the night before. So in all, she got 1700B from this transaction. Plus she was of the opinion that I would be a repeat customer, so she seemed ok with it.

Overall, this experience was not mind-blowing, but good and satisfying. The girl did her best, within the limits of her own preferences. Her body made up for the lack of DATY, and her laughter was certainly a tonic for my fatigue. But there were no real sparks flying, so I may or may not repeat with this one.

I managed to sleep a full 7 hours. Not my usual 8.5, but not bad considering my excesses these days. Now back to Pattaya to see that cute little anal princess.

[QUOTE=Kumbu]Wow, to be honest, this is the first I am reading of such a place. I don't think I will be going though, since Sapphan Kwai is very close to where I work - I might bump into some moonlighting office girls and then the veneer of respectability will be shattered. All those bags under my eyes will suddenly meet with an explanation.[/QUOTE]

Stickman did a piece on this place a few months ago, pretty good roundup of what's all there. If you go late at night, very slim chance you'd be running into good office girls around those bars.

My reports will not be a patch on Kumbu's, not least because I am a 2-finger typist and life is too short to spend all my time in the room tapping away.

Arrived in Bangkok last night at 6.35pm (20 minutes early). Out of the plane, through immigration (had to switch lanes because a dumbass farang couple couldn't work out how to the complete immigration form), and my bag was about 5th off the conveyor belt. Up to departures level, and into the first cab. Offered 300Bht for expressway to Sukhumvit, and it was of course immediately accepted. I can't be bothered to haggle when I arrive after a long flight so I always offer 300Bht. If the driver is stupid enough to try and haggle over a very good deal I just politely walk away to the next cab.

Arrived at hotel in Soi 2 at 7.35pm, exactly one hour after touchdown. Mustn't grumble. Hotel superb. Details in another thread.

I worked out my plan, which was to have a shower, go for a stroll, have one beer in BeerGarden and pick up a couple of phone numbers, have one beer in a Nana bar and check out the carpark, then go watch a show (AngelWitch?), and then come back to find some company. I am a beer lightweight, as You have probably guessed. :)

Of course it didn't work out that way. First beer in BeerGarden (which was quite crowded and a very positive girl to guy ratio) and saw one SYT, but decided that she was probably too young. Chatted to a couple of others, but no-one took my fancy. Just as I was about to leave I spotted a very smart and elegant looking lady in the far corner, so went and chatted to her. Just my cup of tea, and apparently I was hers :) . I realised that I was a little short of cash, given my plans for a bite at the Mango in the morning, so having discussed price (she said 2000Bht, I said 1000Bht, she said 1500Bht, I said 1000Bht, she said OK ;) - my idea of haggling!) I went to change some cash before 10pm.

Returned about 10 minutes later to find some ugly old dude had moved in... The girl has no standards, no shame! Actually, she must have known him, because (a) she had apparently made a commitment, and (b) he was completely ignoring her and talking to his mate. Ignoring her to the extent that I was able to have a conversation with her about why she should come with me and not the ugly old guy who was ignoring her...

But it was not to be, although she protested that she would much rather go with me and did not like the other guy. Even to the point of wiping away a tear at the injustices of life! Go figure. I asked her one last time politely and then moved off. As I did so, I bumped into the SYT from earlier, so I chatted to her, and after a few minutes she decided to give me a deep wet kiss. The other lady was surreptitiously watching all the time... Never mind. Anyway, the kiss did it for me, and a few minutes later we negotiated for ST (I said 1000Bht, she said yes :) ), and off we went.

Taxi back to hotel, shower together including BJ in shower, and I'm already thinking about a tip... She was good. No rush and a fine time was had by all. Well, by me anyway. Afterwards I did indeed tip her 100Bht, generous guy that I am. Then straight to bed and lights out, thinking about a Mango for breakfast...

[QUOTE=Kumbu]
I took a crap this morning and it didn't smell.
[/QUOTE]
Yeh sure, my shit doesn't stink either! ;) Seafood diet.

[QUOTE]
Then the dragon lady arrives. A waitress, built like a Sherman tank, places her smiling face in front of me and bows very humbly and says “please dear sir, may I have a drink as well? I am so very thirsty, I would be most grateful...” I kid you not on the grammar, it was impeccable, with a slight English accent too. But this just pissed me off. Usually, I would joke about how I am here to see Apple not anyone else, blah blah blah, but I was very tired and very grouchy. So I paused for a good 10 seconds, while everything in the club seemed to stand still. I looked her in the face, without an expression on my face, feeling the increasing anxiety within Apple next to me. I then reached over and grabbed my bill, and pulled out my cash to pay.

The waitress objected, backpeddling as quickly as she could, saying no need for drink, etc., etc., etc., but I was not in any mood for this bullshit. I paid up, turned to Apple and said “Sorry, I have to go, I will call you, ok?” She looked me in the eyes apologetically, and eagerly nodded her head. What a sweetheart. She kissed me on the lips and said “See you soon”. My change returned, and I took all of it (of course), and of course, the waitresses started to curse me out for being a bad man. Of all the dog and pony shows I have to endure, this is my least favorite.[/QUOTE]
Ugly but polite Waitress.

It is cool to be polite in Thailand. Thais do not like Farangs that blow up with little reason.
If I blew up very time someone requested a drink, I probably would have had a stroke by now.

You will always meet the odd annoying Thai people in bars. Life is too short to take any notice of them. You need to leave if being continually pestered, but ignore the occasional one.

This is "Gogo Bars 101".

I had pre-ordered a Mango for breakfast, but when it came it was a Cherry!

Booked her for a Sunday morning treat, although when I woke up groggy at 9.30am I did feel a bit sorry for her that I had asked her to come over at 10.30am. I just had time for a coffee and a shower to make myself look presentable before she arrived on the dot. As it says on the web-site, she is tall and long-limbed. For those who care she weighed 50.2kg on my scales, and is well proportioned with good natural boobs. Her English is not great, but OK, but she was very relaxed, happy and smiley, and did all the things that you would expect from a Mango girl (including a massage with her boobs in the shower). She didn't offer anal, and comparing the size of my massive anaconda(!) with her butt I have to say I don't blame her. Not really my thing anyway.

For various reasons my mind was on other matters that morning, so after the deeds had been done (the second round finished off with a BJ) I wasn't really in the mood for small talk. Anyway, I took her downstairs and we got the hotel tuc-tuc to Sukhumvit and we strolled to Nana skytrain. She kept asking me where I was going to eat and saying that she hadn't eaten that morning, but as I say my mind was on other things and I bid her a fond goodbye. A nice girl and one who I would be happy to see again.

There was something on the front page of one of the papers the other day, I forgot to keep it, but it said that the airport train link is now being offered free of charge as a trial in anticipation of its opening in August. So free rides (for a few hours in the morning, a few hours in the afternoon). The train goes from Phayathai station to the airport. The anticipated opening is in August, but who knows if it will materialize, but free rides on a working train is progress indeed. Ah, found a link to the article in The Nation:

[url]http://www.nationmultimedia.com/home/2010/06/01/business/SRT-wants-more-funds-for-Airport-Rail-Link-subsidi-30130597.html[/url]

When it does open, I think I will still opt for a taxi ride rather than the hassle of a train to Phayathai, connecting to the BTS into Nana.

[QUOTE=Mouse1]I had pre-ordered a Mango for breakfast, but when it came it was a Cherry![/QUOTE]Mouse, very much enjoying your two-finger-typed reports - keep 'em coming.

I'm wondering, what do you mean she was a cherry? I've noticed that gay Thai men often refer to themselves as cherries...that's not what you meant, was it? (no offense intended, I'm just confused.)

[QUOTE=Kumbu]... I'm wondering, what do you mean she was a cherry?[/QUOTE]

Cherry is just the name of one Mango Massage girl.

[url]http://www.mangomassagebangkok.com/shop.html[/url]

I went for a run in Lumpini Park this afternoon. I was very impressed by the number of gorgeous young girls in tight-fitting sports gear. My lean tanned young athletic figure drew a few admiring glances, and I reckon I could have scored had I not been fat, red, old and sweaty. :( Oh, and looking like I was about to die. :( :(

I hadn't realised before that there is a long elevated walkway from the bottom of Soi 10, all the way to Lumpini Park.

[QUOTE=Goyave]Cherry is just the name of one Mango Massage girl.

[url]http://www.mangomassagebangkok.com/shop.html[/url][/QUOTE]


A photo-

[url]http://mangomassagesoi24.com/modules/gallery/albums/Cherry/img/100226125306_untitled-2.jpg[/url]

An OK evening, but ended all too soon....

I had an enjoyable time wandering around the bars in NEP and briefly visited the BeerGarden. In contrast to last night when there were a handful of nice looking girls, there was no-one that I would consider young and attractive there tonight. I wandered up to Thermae and dropped in for a drink, just to see how it was looking these days. There were perhaps 50 - 60 girls, mostly looking as Japanese as nature, make-up and surgery would allow. To my surprise I did get eye contact and a few smiles, but not from the really stunning girls, who had their eyes fixed firmly on their prey. Every so often a couple of young Japanese guys would come in and 50 pairs of eyes would follow them around...

My guess is that if you approached the beautiful young things you would get a brush off. Even if you did score the price would be high, and expectations would be, er, Japanese. Take that how you will!

I'm thinking about a 'reclaim the Thermae' campaign. Restoring the right of farangs to walk those mean streets. Actually, it's such a dreadful pit the Japanese are welcome to it.

I thought that I would wander back to catch a show at NEP, and on my way I was accosted by two very pretty girls, aged 22 and 24. They looked so good that I found it impossible to say no... I normally don't go with a girl unless I've had a chance to build up something of a rapport, but I've had a couple of good experiences with random pairs of girls recently so I thought it worth a punt. I did a quick test on what they would do, and since the older one would do anal (not that I wanted it!) I thought they would be up for most things...

Jumped into a cab, and back to the hotel. I just realised that these were the 3rd and 4th girls into my room in less than 24 hours, and I actually felt embarrassed, grinning sheepishly at the two rather attractive staff on the desk as I ushered them in :) Up in the room, and their clothes were off before I had finished shutting the door. A nice time in the shower with two fit young birds, then into the bedroom. Unfortunately, although the spirit was willing the flesh was rather weak, and it wasn't helped by their evident desire to be out in 5 minutes. So I really only properly bonked one and finished off with a BJ from the other. Becoming something of a habit!

Anyway, had an OK time, but I think that it would have been better with just one of the girls. Having two girls there gives them a chance to chat together and reinforces any reluctance... The older one also spoiled the romantic ending by requesting an 800Bht tip, on top of the agreed 1200Bht fee. She didn't get it.

[QUOTE=Kumbu]And while I am at it, could anyone recommend a good, basic Korean restaurant? There are a couple on soi 11 which I don't care for (near the twist), and then there's one in Ploenchit Plaza, which is always empty. I also tried the one at the Emporium, which was, eeh. I'm looking for a solid, inexpensive dolsot bibimbap.[/QUOTE]Ever since eating jeotgal baekban (fermented fish), I can't recommend any Korean restaurants, but there is a courtyard/mall pretty much opposite the Thermae cafe which I always think of as Little Korea. Packed with restaurants and Korean massage spas - perhaps worth checking out.

[QUOTE=Kumbu]Mouse, very much enjoying your two-finger-typed reports - keep 'em coming.

I'm wondering, what do you mean she was a cherry? I've noticed that gay Thai men often refer to themselves as cherries...that's not what you meant, was it? (no offense intended, I'm just confused.)[/QUOTE]
Methinks he means a young lady named Cherry at Mango..very nice indeed

[url]http://mangomassagesoi24.com/index.php?p=1_6_Ladies[/url]

[QUOTE=Mouse1]I went for a run in Lumpini Park this afternoon. I was very impressed by the number of gorgeous young girls in tight-fitting sports gear. My lean tanned young athletic figure drew a few admiring glances, and I reckon I could have scored had I not been fat, red, old and sweaty. :( Oh, and looking like I was about to die. :( :(

I hadn't realised before that there is a long elevated walkway from the bottom of Soi 10, all the way to Lumpini Park.[/QUOTE]Can u tell us more about those tight young girls?

Are they bargirls? officegirls? or just sport fanatics?

And are they approachable, given that, one has the appearance of johhny depp?

[QUOTE=M P Lurker]It is cool to be polite in Thailand. Thais do not like Farangs that blow up with little reason.

If I blew up very time someone requested a drink, I probably would have had a stroke by now..[/QUOTE]The waitresses in Lollipop are particularly pushy and annoying in trying to get a drink for themselves.

[QUOTE=Kumbu]There was something on the front page of one of the papers the other day, I forgot to keep it, but it said that the airport train link is now being offered free of charge as a trial in anticipation of its opening in August. So free rides (for a few hours in the morning, a few hours in the afternoon). The train goes from Phayathai station to the airport. The anticipated opening is in August, but who knows if it will materialize, but free rides on a working train is progress indeed. Ah, found a link to the article in The Nation:

[url]http://www.nationmultimedia.com/home/2010/06/01/business/SRT-wants-more-funds-for-Airport-Rail-Link-subsidi-30130597.html[/url]

When it does open, I think I will still opt for a taxi ride rather than the hassle of a train to Phayathai, connecting to the BTS into Nana.[/QUOTE]Kumbu,

I will take the train it will be faster no traffic no toll ,it will be cheaper also if you are traveling alone like most monger ,if 2 people take the taxi make more sense .

Fast eddie 48

[QUOTE=Mouse1]Ever since eating jeotgal baekban (fermented fish), I can't recommend any Korean restaurants, but there is a courtyard/mall pretty much opposite the Thermae cafe which I always think of as Little Korea. Packed with restaurants and Korean massage spas - perhaps worth checking out.[/QUOTE]Thanks, I'll give that a shot. Every cuisine has its gross items. If you think about it, fried eggs sunny side up is pretty nasty. All I am looking for is rice in a hot stone pot with veggies and some redpepper paste. Mmm, I love that crunchy rice at the bottom.

[QUOTE=Datebayo]Can u tell us more about those tight young girls?

Are they bargirls? officegirls? or just sport fanatics?

And are they approachable, given that, one has the appearance of johhny depp?[/QUOTE]Bar girls out for a morning jog? Yeah.. the tooth fairy is also active.

Why not go take a jog and see for one self. Remember the art of the pick up involves far more that saying " how much". LOL

[QUOTE=Mouse1]Ever since eating jeotgal baekban (fermented fish), I can't recommend any Korean restaurants, but there is a courtyard/mall pretty much opposite the Thermae cafe which I always think of as Little Korea. [b]Packed with restaurants and Korean massage spas - perhaps worth checking out[/b].[/QUOTE]
I use the restaurants in Little Korea regularly and never had any problems, but then I do stick to dishes, where the main ingredients have not yet reached the stage of necrotic decomposition.
Somehow, I have never noticed the other potential attraction you mention, the Korean massage spas.
Can someone familiar with these establishments please comment?
Could they be an alternative (in the mongering sense) to Sazanka or even to Thai MPs?

[QUOTE=Datebayo]Can u tell us more about those tight young girls?

Are they bargirls? officegirls? or just sport fanatics?

And are they approachable, given that, one has the appearance of johhny depp?[/QUOTE]There are plenty of girls, usually jogging slowly round in pairs. A fair few sauntering slowly around, and a large number in the various aerobic classes being conducted there.

They ain't bargirls, that's for sure. Not a pair of high heels in sight.

Good luck, Mr Depp!

[QUOTE=Daddy San]I use the restaurants in Little Korea regularly and never had any problems, but then I do stick to dishes, where the main ingredients have not yet reached the stage of necrotic decomposition.
Somehow, I have never noticed the other potential attraction you mention, the Korean massage spas.
Can someone familiar with these establishments please comment?
Could they be an alternative (in the mongering sense) to Sazanka or even to Thai MPs?[/QUOTE]To be honest, I mentioned the massage spas from memory, and my recollection is that there were a number of straight massage parlours there. They certainly didn't interest me from a mongering perspective. If I wander past there tonight I'll check it out and confirm.

...because it was designed by the seven f***ing dwarves. :(

I was warned about the low ceiling beam as I went in to check out the girls. I wasn't warned about the low beam over the stairs as I descended, and took a sucker blow to my head...

Anyway... After waking refreshed from a good night's sleep, I decided to investigate Snow White's for this morning's entertainment. I wrote a few names out from the web-site, memorised them and went to see who was in that day. Stopped briefly at the BusStop for breakfast (I wouldn't particularly recommend, although the bargirl did give me a free banana fritter - it's these little things that make all the difference!). There were 6 or 7 girls in the line-up at SW as I walked in at 1pm, of which both Fa and April caught my eye (and had been on my list). I went for April on the basis of a slightly sweeter smile. And a slightly large pair of breasts :)

I hadn't realised that April had worked previously at the flower shop, and she certainly showed all the relevant skills. But my problem was having been out jogging the evening before, my legs started cramping up at the most inopportune moments. :( One particularly nasty cramp propelled me almost vertically off the bed, although I'm glad to say it wasn't in a particularly, er, intimate moment. Much to April's surprise and concern, I must say, and my hilarity, once the pain had subsided!

Anyway, the session was everything you would expect, and April was up for everything, although I didn't trouble her ass. Her boobs are very nice and I think real, but what would I know? She could probably talk for Thailand, though, which would be fine if her English was a little better, or my Thai vastly better. Also she messed up big-time when we played the guess-my-age game. We all know that the secret is to knock 10% or so off the apparent age, and not to add it on. My cheery personality and youthful good looks can usually fool most of the girls. So when she guessed 54 for me I was mightily huffed. And no amount of saying she was joking was going to undo that...

Oh yeah, and before I forget: She very enthusiastically told me her future business plan to open a BDSM place on Sukhumvit, and demonstrated very graphically (but virtually!) what she intended to do to the customers. She was perhaps slightly more enthusiastic than necessary to explain her intentions. Heaven help any poor sod who gets locked up in her dungeon! Interestingly she explained that you would not stop the punishment by saying 'no', but had to use the secret words 'traffic lights'. Made me think that she had first-hand experience somewhere... :)

We finally finished the two hours (the rooms are nice and clean by the way, with a large shower and a very helpful wall mirror), dressed and I was one my way downstairs. At which point I was clubbed insensible, but took it bravely like a real man. :)

Next stop, a 'real' massage parlour to fix those legs...

[QUOTE=Mouse1]there is a courtyard/mall pretty much opposite the Thermae cafe which I always think of as Little Korea. Packed with restaurants and Korean massage spas - perhaps worth checking out.[/QUOTE]Went down there is search of my dolsot bibimbap today and scored big time - food wise I mean. I went to a small place called Arago (I think), about half way into the mini-mall on the right hand side. Good food, plenty of banchan, albeit slightly expensive (220B for dolsot Bibimbap).

I walked past the massage parlors and they looked pretty legit to me. I didn't have the testicular fortitude to walk in and seek service, although if the Korean massage places in LA are anything to go by, full service HAS to be offered at these places.

I tried approaching one an got the royal no-nonsense brush off. She as much as told me to fuck off. Their tongues hand out for the Japanes guys.

Irony is, at the bar I met a gal who was 33 and stacked. We struck up a conversation and in a matter of 15 minutes she gave me the complete rundown on the place. Wound up connecting with her for the night at the Nana Parking lot.



[QUOTE=Mouse1]An OK evening, but ended all too soon....

I had an enjoyable time wandering around the bars in NEP and briefly visited the BeerGarden. In contrast to last night when there were a handful of nice looking girls, there was no-one that I would consider young and attractive there tonight. I wandered up to Thermae and dropped in for a drink, just to see how it was looking these days. There were perhaps 50 - 60 girls, mostly looking as Japanese as nature, make-up and surgery would allow. To my surprise I did get eye contact and a few smiles, but not from the really stunning girls, who had their eyes fixed firmly on their prey. Every so often a couple of young Japanese guys would come in and 50 pairs of eyes would follow them around...

My guess is that if you approached the beautiful young things you would get a brush off. Even if you did score the price would be high, and expectations would be, er, Japanese. Take that how you will!

I'm thinking about a 'reclaim the Thermae' campaign. Restoring the right of farangs to walk those mean streets. Actually, it's such a dreadful pit the Japanese are welcome to it.

I thought that I would wander back to catch a show at NEP, and on my way I was accosted by two very pretty girls, aged 22 and 24. They looked so good that I found it impossible to say no... I normally don't go with a girl unless I've had a chance to build up something of a rapport, but I've had a couple of good experiences with random pairs of girls recently so I thought it worth a punt. I did a quick test on what they would do, and since the older one would do anal (not that I wanted it!) I thought they would be up for most things...

Jumped into a cab, and back to the hotel. I just realised that these were the 3rd and 4th girls into my room in less than 24 hours, and I actually felt embarrassed, grinning sheepishly at the two rather attractive staff on the desk as I ushered them in :) Up in the room, and their clothes were off before I had finished shutting the door. A nice time in the shower with two fit young birds, then into the bedroom. Unfortunately, although the spirit was willing the flesh was rather weak, and it wasn't helped by their evident desire to be out in 5 minutes. So I really only properly bonked one and finished off with a BJ from the other. Becoming something of a habit!

Anyway, had an OK time, but I think that it would have been better with just one of the girls. Having two girls there gives them a chance to chat together and reinforces any reluctance... The older one also spoiled the romantic ending by requesting an 800Bht tip, on top of the agreed 1200Bht fee. She didn't get it.[/QUOTE]

Nice report. Did you meet the girls on the street? If so, near where?

[QUOTE=Mouse1]An OK evening, but ended all too soon....

I had an enjoyable time wandering around the bars in NEP and briefly visited the BeerGarden. In contrast to last night when there were a handful of nice looking girls, there was no-one that I would consider young and attractive there tonight. I wandered up to Thermae and dropped in for a drink, just to see how it was looking these days. There were perhaps 50 - 60 girls, mostly looking as Japanese as nature, make-up and surgery would allow. To my surprise I did get eye contact and a few smiles, but not from the really stunning girls, who had their eyes fixed firmly on their prey. Every so often a couple of young Japanese guys would come in and 50 pairs of eyes would follow them around...

My guess is that if you approached the beautiful young things you would get a brush off. Even if you did score the price would be high, and expectations would be, er, Japanese. Take that how you will!

I'm thinking about a 'reclaim the Thermae' campaign. Restoring the right of farangs to walk those mean streets. Actually, it's such a dreadful pit the Japanese are welcome to it.

I thought that I would wander back to catch a show at NEP, and on my way I was accosted by two very pretty girls, aged 22 and 24. They looked so good that I found it impossible to say no... I normally don't go with a girl unless I've had a chance to build up something of a rapport, but I've had a couple of good experiences with random pairs of girls recently so I thought it worth a punt. I did a quick test on what they would do, and since the older one would do anal (not that I wanted it!) I thought they would be up for most things...

Jumped into a cab, and back to the hotel. I just realised that these were the 3rd and 4th girls into my room in less than 24 hours, and I actually felt embarrassed, grinning sheepishly at the two rather attractive staff on the desk as I ushered them in :) Up in the room, and their clothes were off before I had finished shutting the door. A nice time in the shower with two fit young birds, then into the bedroom. Unfortunately, although the spirit was willing the flesh was rather weak, and it wasn't helped by their evident desire to be out in 5 minutes. So I really only properly bonked one and finished off with a BJ from the other. Becoming something of a habit!

Anyway, had an OK time, but I think that it would have been better with just one of the girls. Having two girls there gives them a chance to chat together and reinforces any reluctance... The older one also spoiled the romantic ending by requesting an 800Bht tip, on top of the agreed 1200Bht fee. She didn't get it.[/QUOTE]

I walked over to Patpong last night at about 10:30pm. As with many places in Bangkok, it is still suffering after affects of [i]Black May.[/i] Mongers are few and far between on the sois. Consequently, there are many, many, good looking, leggy, young women looking to hook up.

First, I visited with the old mamasan at the Cleo Beer Bar (next to SOL), then I walked over the Safari Bar to see a friend. I enjoy the old music played at Safari, and last night there was motorsport racing on the tube. My friend and her shapely, biologic [i]sister[/i] kept me close company until closing time. I considered taking them both home (sisters!), but I'm under the weather a bit ([i]mai sabai[/i]), and wasn't feeling the need.

In terms of [i]take away[/i] talent at Safari, there are a couple of pretty dancer/hostesses who are definitely worth a look. The line up tends to change nightly as girls are coming and going a lot these days.

Obviously, a night out mongering in Patpong is not as straightforward as picking a number at one of the "pussy buffet" bars in Nana or Cowboy. But if you are a skilled hunter willing to look around a bit, I think a worthwhile prize can be easily be found in Bangkok's oft-maligned [i]Infamous Red Light District.[/i] Just watch out for the 185cm ladyboys!

[QUOTE=Henryv]Nice report. Did you meet the girls on the street? If so, near where?[/QUOTE]They were on the 'even' side of the street, between Soi 4 and Soi 6. But they were heading off somewhere, not hanging around.

[QUOTE=Mouse1]She very enthusiastically told me her future business plan to open a BDSM place on Sukhumvit, and demonstrated very graphically (but virtually!) what she intended to do to the customers. She was perhaps slightly more enthusiastic than necessary to explain her intentions. Heaven help any poor sod who gets locked up in her dungeon![/QUOTE]I've had a few PMs on this, and I have to say that I think it was just a pipe-dream of hers. I don't think that it will be happening anytime soon. :)

Rapport, rapport and rapport. Or something.

After a slightly disappointing experience last night (only because it could have been a lot better), decided to take a much slower route to the finish line. I decided I needed to build a strong rapport with a girl before taking her back to my room, so that we could have a slightly slower, more gf, experience. I started off in the beergarden again, and again there were thin pickings. Deciding to move on I sat down at the back to finish my beer while I made a couple of calls, and this quite attractive girl kept smiling at me.

She wasn't bad looking, and she had a good figure. I guessed that she was about 30 (and she said 29), and whereas my natural instincts might have been to go for someone a bit younger, I remembered that my best gf experiences have always been with the slightly older girls. Anyway, we got chatting, and had a laugh. I bought her a drink (a barely drinkable watered-down white wine), and I got another beer. After an hour I clinched the deal (which was 1200Bht ST, plus a couple of glasses of wine for her). Realising I was heading off to Pattaya the next day I was tempted to ask for LT, but she was a little reluctant and I decided not to push it. Build that relationship, establish that rapport.

We had to walk back through Soi 3 to change some money (always get the best rates in Soi 3), then a short taxi ride down Soi 2 to my nest. (I'm going to tell you about my hotel shortly after I have booked my next stay). In the room, and a beer each. More chatting and I slowly undressed her, making sure I kissed every bit as it was uncovered, before sending her off for her shower. I think she wanted to shower alone, and again I wasn't going to push it as I planned plenty of physical inspection later. We got into bed and started to kiss and cuddle before gradually upping the tempo. She was very responsive to my needs, and before I knew it she had slipped her leg over my head for a very satisfying soixante-neuf.

Soixante-neuf, a very pleasurable was to spend 5 or 10 minutes... Not bad for 10 or 15 minutes also... At 20 minutes, well, the novelty begins to wear off! After what seemed like a good half hour I'm still there, doing my stuff, while she is having a great time, albeit occasionally forgetting to do her stuff. Finally, just before I give up with oral exhaustion, she achieves what she was trying to achieve. I do like that :)

So finally it is my turn for a ride, and I regret to say that I don't last too long. But as they say, it's never wrong to take an orgasm, you never know when the next one might come along. She did have the grace to compliment me on my oral skills, but to be honest it was quantity not quality...

She had a shower and we actually got back into bed for a bit more special time before it was time for her to go. A very nice way to end my brief stay in BKK. I'll be back in a few days though, and there are at least two girls I would be happy to see again.

[QUOTE=Mouse1]I went for a run in Lumpini Park this afternoon. I was very impressed by the number of gorgeous young girls in tight-fitting sports gear. My lean tanned young athletic figure drew a few admiring glances, and I reckon I could have scored had I not been fat, red, old and sweaty. :( Oh, and looking like I was about to die. :( :([/QUOTE]LOL. Everyone knows that the BKK climate ages you 30 years when exercising OUTSIDE... INSIDE, makes you feel 30 years younger...

[QUOTE=Kumbu]and off I go to Nana Liquid. [/QUOTE]Fun reads.

Whether it's 2 fingers, or full fledged typing (Kumbu), have to say, both of you write excellent FR's, both informative and entertaining. Each paints a visual image of the scene. I know the time it takes to write these, so your efforts are appreciated.

Hi Guys, preparing for my trip in Oct. I plan on change $2000 US at one time, would I get a better rate at a money changer or at a bank? Would I get better rate at Bangkok or Pattaya or are they all about the same? Thanks

[QUOTE=Csun213]Hi Guys, preparing for my trip in Oct. I plan on change $2000 US at one time, would I get a better rate at a money changer or at a bank? Would I get better rate at Bangkok or Pattaya or are they all about the same? Thanks[/QUOTE]As reported here previously, and I've been using them recently, Super Rich -- (the Ratchadamri Branch near the burned out Big C in Ratchaprasong) -- has the best rates in Bangkok. Bring your passport, it only takes a few minutes.

Easy walk from the Chitdlom BTS Station. You can even stop at Akane Fashion Massage for a scrub, probe and tug on the way if you like.

> see up to the minute rate comparisons at:
[url]http://bankexchangerates.daytodaydata.net/default.aspx[/url]

> and, directions here:
[url]http://www.superrich1965.com/Eng/location.aspx[/url]

[QUOTE=Fon Tok]As reported here previously, and I've been using them recently, Super Rich -- (the Ratchadamri Branch near the burned out Big C in Ratchaprasong) -- has the best rates in Bangkok. Bring your passport, it only takes a few minutes.[/QUOTE]Looks like you can't beat Super Rich. But otherwise I always get a good rate from the money-changers in the alley between Soi 3 and Soi 5. They don't publicise their rates, but when I enquire they are always a little better than the various TravelEx's around.

so on monday kumbu broke the mold and struck off on a different path – he started down the big, bountiful bonanza that is booby land. you all know your fateful hero as a registered holder of an ass-'n-legs club membership (double platinum for life, if i may brag for a moment). but something came over the man today. not sure why this happened – he had been celibate for almost 40 hours after the anal princess trial and execution in pattaya, and perhaps the build-up of hormones warped his thinking.

anyway, he just saw them there, protruding out like a couple of petulant school girls, screaming out to him for manhandling. he can man handle, given the chance. so here is the full story. this is the part 1 in which kumbu fails to score, due to fatigue and general disinterest. part 2, to follow shortly, is the interesting report. so if you want the dirt, skip this report and wait for the next one.

sunday i was brooding, nay, sulking after my horrific criminal experience the night before with my anal girle in pattaya. i was now back in bkk, but not a very happy camper. everything i tasted seemed sour, everything i looked at seemed bland, everything i smelled was acrid. nothing pleased kumbu, not even a run down to nep. i did a couple of gogo bars before i walked into rainbow 4. i walked in, and that is when the schoolgirls sang to me. she was front and center, slowly undulating her body, swaying from side to side, gently wafting her mammaries out for the world to see.

my eyes did a little cartoon-gonk, and then i went and sat in a corner away from all the hubbub, as is my want. i watched from afar for several rotations, and it was a contest between buzooms and a really cute-faced girl on the other side of the bar who was working the dance pole expertly. the clincher was the fact that buxom was actually looking my way. that makes all the difference, let me tell you. that means you are her type, and that means more likely than not, there will be chemistry.

and chemistry there was, in spades. we talked for a good 20 minutes about all things. she is relatively old, 30 years, but in good shape. as we talked i noticed the metalshop in her mouth, which might give some mongers the image of spurting crotch-blood. but not me – the bbbj can easily be skipped. she had superb, sexy hands – long slender fingers, well manicured, well tended, and they felt clean – a good sign. up close, her age was quite apparent – when i guessed her age, i of course low-balled it, stating it at 25 (what a lie), but she really looked around 33 to me. but again, her mouth was just so full of steel, she was a veritable (austrian accent) cybernetic organism.

but what worked the best was the talk. she was totally cool, very natural, very easy to talk to. her english skills were not the best, but she did make the best of what she had. she also touched me well, rubbing the right parts once in a while, and coming close to me so i could get a good pinch of the tatas. not sure what came over me with the tata-fetish, but i suppose the yen for variety comes to us all.

but i wasn't ready to commit. i paid for her drink and off i went. before i left though, she gave me her number. hmm, i didn't even ask for it.

went down to lollipop ready and eager to bf apple. she's the one who got tor****ed the other day by a pushy waitress. i get in and i am gang tackled by three dancers and a waitress. two grab my hands, one jumps onto my back, and the third grabs my cock through my jeans and pulls me towards a seat. the girls are grabbing and prodding me. one has her hand on my cock rubbing, the other has her hand on my left nipple tweaking while rubbing her pussy on my thigh, and the third has her face in mine, looking me right in the eyes. meanwhile the waitress is trying to get them off me so she can take my drink order.

i basically take the treatment without any fuss. i go with it, let them butter me up, and when it is finally all over (60 seconds or so), the waitress asks me to order a drink. i tell her that i am here to see apple. she says 'oh, so sorry, mai mii appen. mii som, mii stabelli, mii...' i cut her off because i realized she was listing which juices they had. so i explained that the name of the girl is apple, and i want to see her. she then told me that apple is not here.

so i looked around to see what potential there was. the three girls on me were a definite negative, physically. and there didn't seem to be too much else on display. so i walked out. they were appalled that i did not even order a drink, but that's life bi-yatches. hmm, it's now 11:30, what to do? i walk slowly over to climax to have a quick look. i have no intention of picking anyone out, i am just trying to kill a little bit of time. i sat there until 12:30 by which time things were picking up, girl wise. but i started to get unwanted attention from the scabby girls in the back, so i decided it was time to do the black adder thing: run away.

i walked over to nana liquid to see what it was like at this early hour. it was *kind* of going by this time, with the club perhaps 50% full. there were not enough women there yet – there were perhaps 10-15 not-good-looking girls, and exactly 3 good looking girls. all three lookers were together, and all three started to look my way. good news, i suppose the male pickings must be slim tonight.

i pick a table in the back and just play it cool. i watch for a while, and things are progressing slowly. at one point, two of the cute girls walk past me, and the cuter of the two gives me the most outrageously sexy smile. shit, if i weren't borderline gay i would have grabbed her right then. but something didn't quite feel right, not sure what it was, so i held off.

it was now 1:30, and i was beat. i had to wake up at 6am the next morning, and so i decided i just didn't have time to work the fls here. it would take at least another hour to court these pretties, plus a couple of hours of sex in the room, boy that's playing it dangerously. i decided sleep might be a better option. so i wussed out and hit the sack for four hours.

[QUOTE=Kumbu]This is the Part 1 in which Kumbu fails to score, due to fatigue and general disinterest.[/QUOTE]With the utmost respect, these stories are the ones I enjoy most. :)

[QUOTE=Fon Tok]As reported here previously, and I've been using them recently, Super Rich -- (the Ratchadamri Branch near the burned out Big C in Ratchaprasong) -- has the best rates in Bangkok. Bring your passport, it only takes a few minutes. [/QUOTE]There's a Super Rich at the Chitdlom BTS Station, too. Same rates as the main branch ($1 = 32.6 baht). I walked by there today...even closer to Akane!

Hah! Wait a minute...?
[QUOTE=Mouse1]With the utmost respect, these stories are the ones I enjoy most. :)[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Kumbu]Hah! Wait a minute...?[/QUOTE]:) There's a refreshing honesty about being able to post about your misadventures as well as your successes.

this is part 2/2.

the next morning i had consumed an octuple of espressos before 8am, and a double thereafter on the hour, every hour. at around noon i get an sms from buxom saying something about 'nice to talk to you, maybe we can see each other soon.' i responded with something generic,and that was that. i worked my ass off all day, and got back to the hotel late, around 7pm. i can't believe i didn't crash at that point, but i suppose the 28 espressos through the day had something to do with it.

i was exhausted and in no mood to troll the bars, streets or dance clubs tonight. i was actually considering extending my celibacy another night, but then i realized that would be two nights in a row. in monger law, that is a capital crime, and i know mongers can be ruthless about applying their law. so i thought about it and decided to try to give buxom a shot. i sent her an sms saying 'you going to work today?, and she responds saying 'i'm at home, but i am on my way to the club.' to which i respond 'i'm free, wanna come over?' and she responds (literally): “yes!”

[b]arrival of the boob flesh[/b]
i showered the stink off of me, and awaited the jiggling buzooms. they arrived at 8:10pm – a call to my phone, i go down and pull her upstairs. she is wearing a one-piece clingy blue mini-dress. 'nuff said.

we get in and she wants to chat. oh dear. i indulge her, thinking it will be the normal fare. but we end up talking for over 45 minutes. as we talked, i was slowly undressing her. i mean *slowly*. i slowly pulled her mini-dress up a little, and then her shoulder strap down a little, then the other side of the minidress up a little, etc. it took me 45 minutes of slow, patient undressing. and it was awesome. i mean, she was not resisting *in any way* - she was totally cool, and a couple of times got impatient and just slammed my hand onto her tits. but i am such a freak, i love taking things slow – i love teasing things out into tortuously long and dragged out events. and this is a prime example.

so, 45 minutes later, i have her minidress up around her waist and the top part down to about her nipples when she just gets impatient, stands up and takes the whole thing off. she then mounts me (wearing black laced underwear and bra) and we continue our chatting. here's where it gets interesting.

she starts to tell me about this morning, when she woke up at 6am and didn't know what to do. so she starts up a porno dvd and masturbates.

huh?

so we start talk about how she does it, and what she likes, and then i ask her what her favorite position is. she paused, and then looked away. i asked her again, gingerly this time, and she says she needs to tell me something. she said that the first time she ever had sex, it was not consensual, and so she feels like it was [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url]. but ever since then, when she has sex, if it is gentle, she feels like there is something wrong, and she needs it to be a little rough. oh boy, this ain't really kumbu's thing – he's more of a lover than a ravager, but you know...as i thought about it...i was warming to the idea. it might be the perfect tonic for the withdrawal symptoms i was feeling from my anal girlie.

she says that i smell nice, to which i respond:
kumbu: yes, i showered already. would you like to shower?
boobs: no
kumbu: umm...okaaaay...
boobs: not unless you shower with me.

done. she walks off and i hear the shower crank up, so i shed my clothing and inhibitions and prance into the shower, only to be met with the two most giggilicious treats imaginable. breasts are really not my thing, but when they are this big, this juicy, and this natural, they are just one hell of a curiosity. i played and wiggled them like a total retard – i was just amazed by their volume, their consistency, their pliability. hee-hee-heee...weeeeeeeee! she had obviously seen this all, so she was not terribly amused, nor put off by it.

[b]round 1 - daty[/b]
we get into bed and as promised, it was vigorous. it wasn't rough really – no slapping or spitting or anything, but she was very physical. she was grabbing me, pushing me, flipping me over, and generally being very aggressive. i tried to assert myself, and i finally managed to tame the wild beast just a little. i tried my best to avoid her tits. i wanted to show that i am above that and that i can pay attention to other things on her. she has decent legs, and an ass that was similarly nice. her belly was not super tight, but certainly not evident of child. her pussy was very well shaven and super-fresh. i kissed her neck, down towards her breasts, and then skipped over them entirely to her belly, where i kissed for another few minutes. i moved towards her pussy, and asked permission, receiving the all-clear. so in i went.

her pussy was rather odd. i enjoy playing with pussy lips a little. some lips are large and flappy, others are small and stubby, but invariably licking around them gets some positive responses. this girl had no pussy lips whatsoever – it was incredible. her pussy was the most compact piece of machinery i have ever seen – tight, small and not a bit of hanging or loose flesh. furthermore, it was a very light hue of pink – very delectable indeed. it was clean shaven, and so when i went in, it felt rather odd. i poked around down there a little, and had a great deal of difficulty locating the clit. she was well hooded, but i eventually revealed the pretty little thing, lying shyly beneath her cocoon. i found that trying to get direct tonguage onto the little critter was not worth the effort – prodding and probing straight down onto the hood was sufficient to get her going. in fact, i ended up suckling her entire upper area in a rather aggressive manner, and that worked the best for her.

nuzzle, nibble, flick, stroke, prod, rub, and presto, the lady sang. this one was a little unusual in that she moaned and groaned the whole way, and then when it came time to orgasming, when i expected her to shout out in ecstasy, she bundled up and tightened all her muscles. her face contorted, her legs tightened around my neck and she stopped breathing. the death grip she exhibited around my neck was a little worrying. i struggled to loosen her hold on me, beginning to feel the lack of air in my lungs. i felt a little like the wildebeest crossing the river who suddenly finds itself in the grip of the crocodile's huge, overpowering jaws. the poor beast has no chance of getting away, but it struggles nonetheless. i wriggled and squirmed for a few seconds, and then realizing my predicament, gave up. i went limp for a few moments, trying to reserve my oxygen supply, and few moments later, thankfully, her orgasm subsided and i was able to breath normally again. she then reached down and grabbed a fistful of my hair and yanked me the fuck away from that thing.

[b]intermission: boobies[/b]
without pausing, i pull up to the main attraction. i approached the monsters with some trepidation. it's been a while since i dealt with flesh of this kind and in this volume - i was not sure where to start. so i started by squeezing the right one and kissing around the nipple. i kiss, kiss, kiss, and pop it into my mouth for some sucking. she inhales. meanwhile, my other hand is squeezing and squashing the other one, quite vigorously. she seems to relax once i get into her titties – i suppose this is her comfort zone, where most guys end up with her.

so much for the 'i'm above this' crap. i decide to go to town on these babies. i grab them with both hands and squeeze them together into one large agglomeration of tit. i pull my head back a little and look down at the amassed flesh, and then like a kingfisher, i dive straight into the pond head first. my face in engulfed with breast meat, i mean completely immersed in it, from ear to ear. i can see nothing, i can't breathe, and all i can hear are her muffled groans through the mass around my ears. i felt quite decadent, very indulgent, very greedy. i pop up once in a while for oxygen, and then back down for more perverted submersion.

i eventually pull out of the boob gorging event and start more suckling. i suckle the left, then the right, then the left, and then i realize i can squeeze them together and suck both nipples at the same time – they are that big! and as this begins, she just gasps with delight. it was a little hard to do – it required quite a bit of manual and oral dexterity to pull off the rhythmic double-nipple, but it was a great deal of fun.

[b]round 2: deep and slow[/b]
she then embarrassingly says 'where condom?'. i don the man of troy, and and place little kumbu onto her pussy. as i said, her pussy was so clean and undifferentiated that i couldn't really see her vagina – all i saw was this slender slit, and i wasn't sure where the actual hole was. i grabbed both her ankles and lifted them wide, hoping to gape the pussy a little so i would at least see a target to aim for. nothing. yikes, i need to be a little more obvious about it, so i stick my finger down there and start to doodle around looking for the hole. she finally figures out that i am lost and with one hand she reaches down and grabs little kumbu my the scruff of his neck. with her other hand, she reaches down and opens up her pussy – ah, there it is! she guides little kumbu towards the entrance, and and we finally have contact.

i push in slightly, but the man from troy is unlubricated, so i need to be careful. she is wet, but all her juices are inside the tightly caged secret called her pussy. so i bully little kumbu's head into the hole and start to wriggle around a little, trying to get him properly juiced up. it is slow going – i slowly enter her, taking perhaps a full 2 minutes, inch by inch getting deeper, until i am around 70% of the way in. with most thai girls, this is all they will take – their small frames not ready for the full kumbu. but her hands are feverishly pressing against my back urging me deeper. so i push in a little bit more, unwilling to hurt the poor girl, but she keeps urging me in.

eventually she whispers in my ear 'i like it deep and slow, can you do that?' *can* i? so i start to do it deep and slow. turns out that a simple instruction like 'deep and slow' can in fact be ambiguous, and i realized this as soon as i started my thing. two meanings:
(i) insert deeply, then pull out almost all the way, then insert deeply, and repeat slowly.
(ii) insert deeply, then keeping it inserted deeply, perform slow, shallow pumps.

i wasn't sure which she wanted, so i opted for (i), since it seems like more fun. i pushed as deeply as i could, and then pulled out until little kumbu's head was half way out. i then thrust back in, slowly, evenly. and repeated. and repeated. and repeated. and repeated. and repeated. and repeated. and repeated. and repeated. and repeated. and repeated. and repeated. and repeated. and repeated. and repeated. and repeated. and repeated. and repeated. and repeated. and repeated. and repeated. and repeated. and repeated. and repeated. and repeated. and repeated. and repeated. and repeated.

eventually, i realized this is not what she wanted. she was responding disproportionately loudly at the deepest part of my penetration, so i decided to change-up. i inserted all the way, and then started to do some mini-pumps, small, slow, circular, but all with little kumbu deeply embedded within this beautiful woman. this sent her into stratospheric delight. she whimpered and groaned and yelled - it was somewhat embarrassing. she finally reaches climax, by which time i am drenched in sweat.

[b]more chatting while little kumbu idles his engine[/b]
when she comes, she pulls back a little, and her eyes seem to suggest a break. i'm cool with that. so i pull out, and we start to talk. we talk about this and that as i stroke her naked body, playing with the huge lobes on her chest. she is a talker, that's for sure, so i let her talk while i focused my attention on her body.

you know about her boobs, but i was surprised to discover that her ass was definitely worth some time. if was hefty and large, but firm. very, very firm. and her legs were taught, i.e., shapely and very tight, just like her pussy. it's as if every ounce of extra flesh has migrated to her chest region, leaving nothing but skin, bone and muscle for the rest of her body.

so we talked/groped for 10 minutes, and then i just lost control and grabbed both her boobs with my hands and gave them one almighty squeeze. and we're off...

[b]round 3: this way please[/b]
i suck for 60 seconds or so, just tapping on little kumbu's accelerator a little since he had deflated slightly during the 10 minutes of chatting. but then i went straight back to the copulation. again, i found it tough to insert the little guy, and i needed her help. were i not in such a feverishly horny mood, i would have been a little embarrassed, but i wanted to fuck and that's all that counted. i get in, and goddammit, i had to slowly insert little kumbu, inch by inch, as before. it took forever before i was maximally inserted. so i start the regular deep and slow thing, but this time she grabs my ass cheeks and starts to control the technique. she shows me how she likes it by pulling my ass cheeks with the right level of thrust in the right direction. turns out it is an angle i would never have guessed, kind of upwards and to the right, towards the top back corner. little kumbu's head started to hit a small mound of flesh in there, and voila – i had a target. pretty soon, i took over from her and could find the target myself. i felt like a child who has taken off the training wheels from my first proper bicycle – look daddy, i'm riding her myself now!

perhaps 12-15 strokes later, her orgasm begins, and holy fucking shit.

i knew she was orgasming because her back arched and her voice went up an octave, but i really knew she was orgasming when her pussy started to contract. it tightened, and i thought 'cool'. then it tightened some more and i thought 'wow, never felt this before.' then it tightened some more, and i thought 'umm...'. then it tightened some more and i thought 'ok babe, that's enough now...'. then it tightened some more and i thought 'abort! abort! abort!' but now it was too late: i literally could not move my cock. little kumbu had been trapped, i was (i shit you not) totally cock-grabbed by this woman's pussy. the python had caught its prey and little kumbu was in its death grip. once again, i resign myself to what will come, and i went limp for a few moments. and just then, she took a deep breath and the pussy-grab mercifully ended.

[b]gasp, gasp, gasp[/b]
jeez. after that, i needed a break. i was emotionally traumatized. ever had your dick caught in a vice before? i pulled out and she gasped about how she hates me. i said 'what?' and she says 'oh, you too good, i hate you.' not to deflate you babe, but you basically used my cock to fuck yourself, i just happened to be attached to the cock. but hey, that didn't detract from the top-level fucking grade-a sex this was.

so she needed another break, and we chatted for a little while. mind you, this whole time, little kumbu has been the good little soldier and has not complained even once. he has been up for the battle both times, and after the battle, he did not even ask for so much as a kiss. so we chat for a while, and during the talk she asks me what my plans are for the evening. it just so happened that i was supposed to meet some friends from work for some drinks late at night (12:30am) at soi cowboy, and it was now 11:45. so i told her so. she says, 'oh, ok' and she gets up and walks into the bathroom. umm, okaaaaay.

60 seconds later i hear the flush, and then the shower. umm, okaaaay.

2 minutes later she comes out wearing her bra and underwear, and pulling on her one-piece blue mini-dress:

kumbu: what in the name of all that is fucking holy do you think you are doing?
boobs: you say must go see friends, so i not want to cause problem.
kumbu: and walking outta here leaving me with my dick in my hands will not cause problems...how?
boobs: me no understand.
kumbu: evidently.

[b]it's mine i tell you![/b]
so kumbu, not his normal patient self, walks over to her and she senses the danger. she backs into the bathroom in fear. kumbu has a menacing expression on his face which says only one thing: “give me what is rightfully mine”. my head was pointed down, me looking at here with a rage-full, aggressive expression, and she giggles a little (she knew i was playing). i bend my knees and hug her around the ass, and then lift her off the ground. i place her lightly onto the bathroom counter next to the sink and i slowly lower the straps of her dress. the left breast bulges out of the dress and falls heavily downwards. i lower the other side and the right breast boings out and falls free. i grab both breasts, now freshly showered, squeeze them together again, and suck both nipples long and hard. she gasps and grabs the back of my shoulders with fervor.

i then reach around and grab her by the ass. to my surprise, she shifts forward so she is now in my arms, me holding her by the ass, with her arms around my neck, and my face sucking her tits. i hold her up and suck like my fucking life depended on it. i was not aware of where the nipples were at this point, i was just taking mouthful after mouthful of randomly selected breast meat. it seemed to be a never-ending resource, it just kept coming and coming.

i eventually walked us over to the bed, noisily sucking and slurping all the while, tossed her down and jumped onto her ready to ravage her. i roughly pulled her dress down her body, taking the panties with it, and off her ankles. she was now naked, wriggling up the bed away from me in mock fear. i reached down and grabbed her ankles, lifted them as high as i could so that her ass was pulled off the bed. i had her there, spreadeagled before me, and i plunged my tongue directly into her pussy. i did not bother with the clit, i did not pass go, i did not collect $200. my tongue found the hole first time, and it went into her pussy right down to its root. i don't have a tongue like i have a dick, i.e., it really only got into the pussy about an inch, but i tongue fucked her as best i could for the better part of the next 3 minutes. i then decided that enough is enough, and i am not interested in her orgasms anymore (she had already had four that i knew about).

[b]round 4: umm, what's that?[/b]
i pulled up and pushed little kumbu into the hole, finding it easily this time. once again, the insertion was a timely affair. but i finally got there. so i started fucking the way *i* wanted to – long, deep, slow strokes. i pulled out most of the way, then all the way in, smacking her hips with mine as they banged into her. this was rough fucking, and i am not used to doing this. i am usually the slower, more measured, gentle kind of lover, who likes to sensually overwhelm the girl. but i was having my way with her, and she was enjoying it.

as i fucked, i was losing myself in the intensity. i was beginning to get delirious, you know, when emotion and intensity take over. and as such, my pace was picking up, until i was literally thrashing at this girl. she was not only not complaining, she was urging me on. jeez.

then it began. her hands up until now had been on my shoulder blades, pulling me deeper inside of her. sometimes her fingers were digging into my flesh, somewhat painfully, but she was just trying to get me to push harder and faster. but then her hands slowly moved downwards towards my ass. i was determined not to be manipulated by her the way i was the last time, so i positioned my body such that i would have some leverage on her.

to my great surprise, she didn't grab my ass cheeks. instead, with her left hand she grabbed my right ass cheek and pulled it outwards, and with her right hand she inserted her finger straight into my asshole.

my head popped up, lips instinctively puckered, and i said in a long, slow voice 'hellloooooooooooo.'

little kumbu was eager to continue, but what do i do about the digit in my backside? ok, ignore it, maybe it will go away. so i returned to my mega pumping. the problem was every time i thrust deep into her, my ass would clench so as to get maximal penetration, and when that happened, that damned finger became very evident.

it would be one thing if the finger was doing something good for me, but i was getting nothing out of it. plus, she seemed to be really enjoying it. she started to dig around back there, and given how tight my ass is, she may very well have found a diamond. but i was not in the mood to have her forage for shit in my shit locker. so i wriggled a little to give her the hint that it ain't working. but instead of pulling out, she pulls my right cheek wider and sticks in digit #2.

my head popped up, lips instinctively puckered, and for some odd reason, i channeled peter sellers 'birdie numnum.... birrrrrrrrdie numnum'. not sure why that happened, but there you have it.

now i had to stop. i said 'please darling, remove the fingerzzz from my asshole.' she laughs and says, 'you no like?' i say 'umm, no' and she says 'too bad – you fuck me, i fuck you too.'

little kumbu is ready to explode, all he needs is a little more stimulation and he will get his just rewards. so i decide to stick it out for his sake. i grab her two breasts again and make the breast agglomerate once again, and shove my face into that stuff as deeply as i could. i start to pump little kumbu and munch on the tit flesh and i just let go of everything. i fucked and sucked like a man possessed – no inhibitions, no holding back, i just let 'er rip. it was pure, unbridled lust, the likes of which we rarely experience. it was neurochemicals being gushed into my system, adrenaline overdose, testosterone blitz. i went caveman on the girl.

as i orgasmed, i felt her orgasm as well, with the tightening of the pussy being a little less severe this time. we gasped and moaned loudly, each in our own rhythm, until we finally collapsed into each other. after i was finished, she kept twitching and wincing for another 60 seconds or so, as she came down off of the high. i pulled out, and realized her fingers were still in my butt. so i looked at her with the expression “do you mind?” and she obliged.

she goes off to shower while i catch my breath, and then i shower. afterwards, we talk for a while, and then she decides to leave so i can get to my drinking friends. i realized i had failed to discuss money with her, so i asked her what would be a fair price. i realized she had come straight to my hotel and skipped work to be with me, so the bf issue might be on the table. she thought for a moment and said,
boobs: well, my bar fine is 600, so 600.
kumbu: ok, that's fair, 600 plus how much?
boobs: just 600 is fine with me.

so i thought about this for a moment, and had my wwad moment: hmm, what would amjeck do? i figured amjeck would have pulled out a purple and pink (bank notes, not dick and scrotum), paid her 600b and kicked her ass to the curb. so i paid her 2100b, kissed her on the cheek and told her i would see her when i see her.

"Birdie NumNum" hahahahahaha. Another great report!

Thanks Fon Tok and mouse 1, it surprised me that Super Rich would give a better rate than Banks.

I have heard that you can get better rate in Bangkok than Pattaya, can you guys give me your opinion?

Last question, I am staying at Majestic Suite, since this is my first trip to Bangkok, is there a Super Rich or any good money changer in that area? Thanks

An Absolutely delightful read ..... was just passing through the Thailand forum but could not resist the stopover.
Thank you
Jay
[QUOTE=Kumbu]This is Part 2/2.

She goes off to shower while I catch my breath,......

........ kissed her on the cheek and told her I would see her when I see her.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Csun213]Thanks Fon Tok and mouse 1, it surprised me that Super Rich would give a better rate than Banks.

I have heard that you can get better rate in Bangkok than Pattaya, can you guys give me your opinion?[/QUOTE]
This is all definitely true - verified by me personally two weeks ago - rates in BKK are better than in Pattaya. I would also recommend Vasu Money Changers - their office is right next to the Nana BTS station, next to Coffee World. Their rates are marginally below Super Rich, but not significantly so.

In my experience, the Super Rich in the Chit Lom BTS station does not have the same rates as the one in Ratchadamri - it is worse. But that was for one currency (dollar to baht), and on one day. But there you have it.

[QUOTE=Kumbu]This is all definitely true - verified by me personally two weeks ago - rates in BKK are better than in Pattaya. I would also recommend Vasu Money Changers - their office is right next to the Nana BTS station, next to Coffee World. Their rates are marginally below Super Rich, but not significantly so.

In my experience, the Super Rich in the Chit Lom BTS station does not have the same rates as the one in Ratchadamri - it is worse. But that was for one currency (dollar to baht), and on one day. But there you have it.[/QUOTE]

Thanks, it will be easier for me to go to Vasu Money Changers since it should be close to Majestic Suite. Not sure how to get to Ratchadamri to find Super Rich. Very surprised that Money changers have better rates than Banks.

I am reading your posts on the Pattaya forum right now. There are just so much information there.

[QUOTE=Csun213]Thanks, it will be easier for me to go to Vasu Money Changers since it should be close to Majestic Suite. Not sure how to get to Ratchadamri to find Super Rich. Very surprised that Money changers have better rates than Banks.

I am reading your posts on the Pattaya forum right now. There are just so much information there.[/QUOTE]Csun213,

There are ton of money changer in nana area, I use the one on soi 7 near the biergarden not far from Majestic, I don't know how much you are planning to change if over 1000 USD maybe is worth to travel all the way to super rich

Taxi will cost you 100 bht, you worry too much not even sure you are coming or not, I think you should just stay home and take care of your mom she need you more than the woman in Thailand.

Fast Eddie 48

Visited a few in Nana last night:


Lollipop: Though I remember there being quite a few cute young girls here last January, it's now very weak and roughly 50% ladyboy, some of them convincingly female to the untrained eye. Left after 5 minutes. To be avoided.

Mandarin (upstairs): Thin lineup last night. Looked like a lot of girls were taking a holiday. Some lookers. Music too loud.

Carousel: Surprisingly good. Several very cute girls. Fun atmosphere and friendly staff. Hung out a while and eventually barfined.

[QUOTE=Csun213]Hi Guys, preparing for my trip in Oct. I plan on change $2000 US at one time, would I get a better rate at a money changer or at a bank? Would I get better rate at Bangkok or Pattaya or are they all about the same? Thanks[/QUOTE]Carry as many USD with you as you feel comfortable with. Avoid any banks or moneychangers at the airport as their rates are punitive. I have never noticed any difference between Bangkok and Pattaya. There are only minor differences between Banks and moneychangers so I would suggest just a quick shop around where ever you end up might pay dividens with the amount you are changing.

Beware of a money changer offering significantly better rates than anybody else as you might end up with a load of counterfeit Baht.

Good luck

I have to agree with your comment on Mandarin. I was through there three times in the past week or so. Not an all star lineup though I did find a few of the school line up girls OK. One thing I noticed or never paid attention too is that in all three times girls from both lineups would approach you in pairs. Looking for that drink. Waved them off each time. I am not into being double teamed that particular way. I had one from the A line up stick her tongue down my throat, feel my soft breast she says, bar fine me please act. Na Da

[QUOTE=Evianist]Visited a few in Nana last night:


Lollipop: Though I remember there being quite a few cute young girls here last January, it's now very weak and roughly 50% ladyboy, some of them convincingly female to the untrained eye. Left after 5 minutes. To be avoided.

Mandarin (upstairs): Thin lineup last night. Looked like a lot of girls were taking a holiday. Some lookers. Music too loud.

Carousel: Surprisingly good. Several very cute girls. Fun atmosphere and friendly staff. Hung out a while and eventually barfined.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Evianist]Carousel: Surprisingly good. Several very cute girls. Fun atmosphere and friendly staff. Hung out a while and eventually barfined.[/QUOTE]Right you are. I trotted down there for a looksie since I have never been to this place, and it was worth the effort. I was just a tourist this time (no bar fine), but will definitely return.

It is one of the third-floor joints (never been that high at NEP before), but be careful how you get to the third floor. If you go up the escalator on the right when you first enter NEP, you are fucked. You get to the top, you are mobbed by the girls trying to get you into those bars in that corner, you fight them off and climb the stairs to the next floor, only to find that Carousel is on the other side of the building, and you can't walk around (it is blocked). So you have to go back down the stairs and face the embarrassing 'aaaah, he's back!' catcalls and teasing from the girls again.

So, when you enter NEP, turn left up the stairs, and then up the next flight of stairs, and you are safely in the right part of the building.

Carousel itself is indeed decent. The place is quite large, everything seems to be oversized - the dance stage, the chairs, the women. There are two rotating carousels, the one on the left as you enter seems to be the main one, and I'm not sure what the deal is with the one on the right. The girls there seem to be totally ignored, but they have to keep dancing. Seems a little cruel.

I walk in and I am met by this totally gorgeous waitress, holy crap! She has a smile that reminds me of my first high school sweetheart - cute, wide, lots of straight teeth. She has a pert little nose and stripper hair - the kind that flicks very well. She's too skinny for me, but damn she's a cutie. So she giggles at me when I order a coke light (what kind of man drinks coke light in a gogo bar?!?), and then she's giggling and smiling at me from across the room the whole time I am there.

So the girls are on a monstrous carousel which slowly rotates, and that, in my opinion, is the brilliance of this place. The girls are dressed in skimpy little chain-link wraps around their butts, but honestly, they are basically naked. They are each holding a pole and dancing against it, and the rotation of the carousel takes them all the way around, so if you follow them around with your eyes, you get to see them from every angle. Sweet.

Most of the girls in here were not to my taste except for one - a total drop-dead gorgeous stunner. She looked young, maybe 22, with legs that would stop a Jumbo jet. Flown by Kumbu.

The other girls were all nothing to me. I mean, they were over weight, over aged, and under beautified, IMHO. I would not have bar fined any of them, save this pretty leggy girl. Having said that, there were a lot of girls sitting with guys already, and I suspect they were the cream of the crop. So I'm guessing the quality is much higher than I actually witnessed, but that's just a guess. Nonetheless, despite this lack of quality, the most discerning of Mongers (Kumbu) is willing to return in the very near future.

The show started a few minutes after I arrived, and it was pretty good. There was an umbrella show, where water pours down (gushes down) onto a semi naked girl who uses an umbrella to 'protect herself', and then she does the splits with water pouring down all around her. Very cool. And then a couple more shows, but not worth typing about.

The place was not very full, maybe 30% full on a Th night at around 10:30pm. There were something like 40 girls in there, and maybe 20 guys. There are booth-like lounge chairs all around the place. In the back they go two levels deep. There are also lots of cocktail-style tables and chairs in the middle of the place, so lots of seating. It's a comfortable place to sit where you can probably find a spot and not be bothered by anyone.

I noticed a Japanese guy at the carousel just zonked out looking up at the asses. I noticed an Indian guy getting a lap dance from a girl. I noticed a large white guy (very large) with two girls resting their heads on his humungous belly. I noticed a couple of white guys in their 50s teasing the waitresses. I noticed this one white guy with his hand down a girls panties fingering her, to her mocked screams of resistance. I saw lots of young, poorly shaved white guys come in with lots of gusto and leave a few hundred baht lighter. So there was a great mix of clientèle.

As I said, the bar is large and open (albeit dark), and so it has a good vibe to it. I was beginning to be hassled by a hostess, so I grabbed my drink and moved to a different location, leaving her open-mouthed and aghast. I then chatted up the cute waitress, who was young and giggly and very naive. Decided sleep was more alluring at this point, but I will most definitely return to this place.

Oh, my Coke Light cost me 120B.

[QUOTE=BigSmile]Carry as many USD with you as you feel comfortable with. Avoid any banks or moneychangers at the airport as their rates are punitive. I have never noticed any difference between Bangkok and Pattaya. There are only minor differences between Banks and moneychangers so I would suggest just a quick shop around where ever you end up might pay dividens with the amount you are changing.

Beware of a money changer offering significantly better rates than anybody else as you might end up with a load of counterfeit Baht.[/quote]



To Big smile

Most country money charger offer better rate than bank, but if you are new to Thailand you do need to change a small amount at the Airport for taxi and transport first, I have never got any counterfeit bill in Thailand yet, China is the worst counterfeit bill everywhere even small bill, rate is little better in Bangkok than Pattaya just alot more money charger, rate change offen in Bangkok I alway just change 1-200 USD at a time as I need and I don't go out of my way to shop for just a few bht more not worth my time have better thing to shop around for .

Fast Eddie 48

[QUOTE=BigSmile]Carry as many USD with you as you feel comfortable with. Avoid any banks or moneychangers at the airport as their rates are punitive. I have never noticed any difference between Bangkok and Pattaya. There are only minor differences between Banks and moneychangers so I would suggest just a quick shop around where ever you end up might pay dividens with the amount you are changing.

Beware of a money changer offering significantly better rates than anybody else as you might end up with a load of counterfeit Baht.

Good luck[/QUOTE]

Thanks for the information. I will change $100 at the airport just so I have some Baht in order to take a taxi.

I will probably change about $2000 to start and will probably exchange at a bank since I have never seen Thai Baht so wouldn't be able to tell counterfeit bills.

Thanks for all who are helpful, just want to get all the information I can prior to coming to Thailand. I will of course post up a report after my Oct trip.

[QUOTE=Kumbu]you fight them off and climb the stairs to the next floor, only to find that Carousel is on the other side of the building, and you can't walk around (it is blocked).[/QUOTE]

I did that walk last week, wasn't blocked.

[QUOTE=Rocksoff]I did that walk last week, wasn't blocked.[/QUOTE]That's what I thought, as I did it a few days ago. Thought my memory must be playing up.

There's some construction on the 3rd floor in the back corner, so maybe it was temporarily blocked off on the night in question.

Great Post man!

I join the Kumbu fan club.! Its not really just the act. Its the way its told which makes all the difference.

[QUOTE=Kumbu]This is Part 2/2.

The next morning I had consumed an octuple of espressos before 8am, and a double thereafter on the hour, every hour. At around noon I get an SMS from Buxom saying something about 'nice to talk to you, maybe we can see each other soon.' I responded with something generic,and that was that. I worked my ass off all day, and got back to the hotel late, around 7pm. I can't b.........[/QUOTE]

Will be my first time in Thailand coming up next week.

Looking for some quick advice as I only have a short time there as a stop over on a longer trip. I'm staying at a hotel near the airport.

[QUOTE=Alan Cain]Will be my first time in Thailand coming up next week. Looking for some quick advice as I only have a short time there as a stop over on a longer trip. I'm staying at a hotel near the airport.[/QUOTE]Lots of options, but for a first time BKK visitor, [i]I recommend:[/i]

First get some cash from an airport ATM or money changer, then...

1. Take a [u]meter taxi[/u] to Tulip Massage next to the Thonglor BTS Station. Pick a lady you like from the lineup downstairs (smile and take your time). Go up to room. Take a shower, tell the lady what you want, etc.

Fun for 2 hrs. Cost: 2300 baht (shop 800 baht + girl 1500). You can also take two ladies (add 1500 baht). It's a no brainer. Repeat as often as necessary.

2. Take BTS or meter taxi back to Asoke Station and walk over to Soi Cowboy, Check out a few go-go bars (Tilac, Long Gun, etc.). Pick a nice young lady for short time if you like (barfine 500, girl 2000, room). Short time hotels nearby.

3. Relax. Drink a few beers. Eat some Thai food.

5. Go back to hotel and sleep. Repeat 1-3 as many times as you like!

[QUOTE=Fon Tok]Pick a nice young lady for short time if you like (barfine 500, girl 2000, room). Short time hotels nearby.[/QUOTE]

Had a delightfully fresh and affectionate girl in Toy Bar last night ... barfine 400, girl 1500, room upstairs 250 ... do not forget those smaller bars ...

A small round-up from me as well.

Mercury - 2nd floor to the right - felt like I was in a retirement home for old strippers. Ghastly. Unfortunately, I didn't notice till I ordered my beer - one sip and I was out to the merriment of my waitress. I was the only customer in there which should have given me a small clue.

Mandarin - 2nd floor to the right and up the stairs - not as strong as in previous trips but after Mercury it felt like I was among the human race again. Some nice girls in the bathing suit section and 3-4 cuties in the topless section.

Rainbow 1 - bottom floor to the right - there were loads of young girls on hand but they all feel so interchangable that no one really jumps out at you - and no one was going topless here which was a disappointment - not sure if this is customary or I was just there at a bad time.

Rainbow 3 - 2nd floor to the left - from 2 weeks ago - a real surprise to me - often has a couple cuties but this time nearly every girl was worth a look with some outstanding small cuties - and the cuter ones were going topless. Many fewer girls than the other 3 Rainbow bars but of a higher quality I thought.

The Freelance World - I am not sure if it is still the effects of the Red Shirts or just a continuance of a declining trend over the past few years - numbers and quality - but the freelancers have hit an all time low. I have come across so few new ones and the ones who are around are all getting up there in age. I know a lot of girls went home during the troubles but they should be back by now.

The Nana Parking Lot - an average night has 10-15 girls out there - most of which you have seen on many previous visits - the two sisters are a nice new addition though - not beauties but fun and friendly.

Gullivers - maybe up to 30 girls on most nights - most in their late 20's and tending to the large busty size.

Beer Garden - day time - you can get lucky and see an occasional decent one but again the vast majority are getting near what should be a mandatory retirement age for working girls and they should be paying rent for the seat they have occupied for years there. An average afternoon has 30-40 women. A couple girls have complained to me that business for them is terrible - the guys who come just want to drink and not boom boom - but considering the options that is understandable.

New Wave - Soi 7 - much fewer but same profile as the BG - and most of them are playing pool any way.

Thermae - the usual story - the Japanese rule the roost. During the troubles there were very few Japanese but the pretty girls still would not give me the time of day. One friend went to talk with one the other night and was waved away before he could even get out a "hello". Now there are a number of less good looking girls there - usually sitting on the right or in the middle but they are pretty much bottom of the barrel material - all the pretty ones stand to the left and "kinichiwa" all night long. But its not a bad place to just look. I took one girl who was an ex-NPL girl who I knew - on the way out her friends said something in Thai and she told me they asked her why she was going with a Farang - "jai dee" she replied.

Nana Liquid - my nights have not been as good as Kumbu's I guess - its all in the timing. But have been in there 3 times from 1am on - I don't like this new set up at all. Before it was a basic meet/meat market with easy access to the girls and easy lighting and sound to flirt with them. Much darker now, much much louder and it is broken up in such a way that there are little pockets of girls around the place. But even so the girls I have seen are really low market - I mean some of thm look like they stopped selling insects outside to come in for the free drink that the Nana hands out every evening on Soi 4. Have yet to see a real looker in the place. Many of them are just the retreads on Soi 4 coming in to get out of the rain and free drink.

Sukhumvit - the girls along lower Suk are an argument for cleaning up this city - a Blade Runner melange of fat Africans, aggressive lady boys and run down looking girls.

Btw - two working girl friends who I have known for a while both went in to the doctors for something else and found out they have TB - a coincidence I wonder or do a lot of these girls have it? Plan on being checked soon but not sure how long the incubation period is for it to show up. Fortunately, I didn't do anything with them but play pool - one has stopped working but the other one can't afford to.

[QUOTE=Evianist]Visited a few in Nana last night:


Lollipop: Though I remember there being quite a few cute young girls here last January, it's now very weak and roughly 50% ladyboy, some of them convincingly female to the untrained eye. Left after 5 minutes. To be avoided.

Mandarin (upstairs): Thin lineup last night. Looked like a lot of girls were taking a holiday. Some lookers. Music too loud.

Carousel: Surprisingly good. Several very cute girls. Fun atmosphere and friendly staff. Hung out a while and eventually barfined.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=DRRonin]Thermae - the usual story - the Japanese rule the roost. During the troubles there were very few Japanese but the pretty girls still would not give me the time of day. One friend went to talk with one the other night and was waved away before he could even get out a "hello". Now there are a number of less good looking girls there - usually sitting on the right or in the middle but they are pretty much bottom of the barrel material - all the pretty ones stand to the left and "kinichiwa" all night long. But its not a bad place to just look.[/QUOTE]Went in there the other day just to have a look. A got a few smiles from the less pretty ones (they were nice enough but nothing special) and roundly ignored by the pretty 'Japanese' girls. It amazed me how long they were prepared to stand and wait for a customer... Surely better to go with one farang for 1 hour, make some money and then come back?

Then on reflection I realised that there were about 10 Japanese guys in various small groups around the room. So the girls were still hoping they would be picked. But even worse, if they were seen to go with a farang, they would probably never get picked by one of those guys again... I had a TG once who worked in a karaoke club, and had a steady Japanese boyfriend. He knew what she did while he wasn't around, but made it clear to her that she must never go with a farang. :(

I think its as much about status among the girls themselves - to go with a Farang is considered low-class. If you observe them, the girls standing on the left are all part of various cliques and I think there is pressure not to go out with Farangs - its like being a nerd back in high school and wanting to go out with the "Mean Girls". Last year I thought I was breaking into some of the cliques by taking 4 girls from the line-up and was hoping this would get me in good with the real lookers - but then came to realize that the 4 girls were all Lone Rangers with not even a Tonto to back them up. This time I can't crack the code at all. And most of them aren't really all that great looking but even those have that "don't bother me" look about them. But they are the best looking fl around Sukhumvit.


[QUOTE=Mouse1]Went in there the other day just to have a look. A got a few smiles from the less pretty ones (they were nice enough but nothing special) and roundly ignored by the pretty 'Japanese' girls. It amazed me how long they were prepared to stand and wait for a customer... Surely better to go with one farang for 1 hour, make some money and then come back?

Then on reflection I realised that there were about 10 Japanese guys in various small groups around the room. So the girls were still hoping they would be picked. But even worse, if they were seen to go with a farang, they would probably never get picked by one of those guys again... I had a TG once who worked in a karaoke club, and had a steady Japanese boyfriend. He knew what she did while he wasn't around, but made it clear to her that she must never go with a farang. :([/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=DRRonin]I think its as much about status among the girls themselves - to go with a Farang is considered low-class...And most of them aren't really all that great looking but even those have that "don't bother me" look about them. But they are the best looking fl around Sukhumvit.[/QUOTE]Sure, the easy explanation for Thai women preferring Japanese men is about easy big baht and professional [i]face.[/i]

Ever think that just maybe some Thai ladies just don't like to be groped and screwed by big, hairy, white men who often want to negotiate the price downward? You can add "old" and bald to this scenario in many cases, too. ;)

Normally, in Bangkok, the ladies have more choices, (i.e., white, black, asian, south asian, middle eastern, etc.), than mongers do. Given that Thai women are used to sex with smaller (in stature), strong Thai men, and that Japanese men are often built this way, maybe this might be the part of their personal choice for customers.

I've been told that many ladyboys prefer Japanese men, as well, and the reason was definitely not just for their wallets. I leave it at that.

In any event, there are still more than enough pretty ladies in Bangkok to go around...and around...and around.

[QUOTE=Fon Tok]...In any event, there are still more than enough ladies to go around...and around...and around.[/QUOTE]
This is the kind of attitude which results in satisfaction, contentment, and happiness in the pursuit of mongering.

Life is too short to fret about the women who don't want us and our money. We all have our preferences -- so do they.

last week evianist posted a report on carousel and i went down to check it out. i saw a pretty little thing and i went back tonight to see if i could snag her.

i got in around 9:15, and the place was the pits. the b team was dancing on the a stage, and it was downright hideous. misshapen bodies, pathetic dancing, i had a good mind of doing an about-turn. but i decided to be patient and sat and sipped a drink for a while. several of the girls on stage motioned to me to invite them for a drink, but i stayed stone faced throughout. there were something like 20 dancers in total (on stage and off), and five customers.

at around 9:30 things turned around. the a team arrived and the b team were relegated to the ugly carousel in the back. amongst the a team there were three good looking girls, but this one girl really stood out for me. i couldn't quite put my finger on why she was so damned attractive.

i kept looking at her trying to figure it out. her body was slim and toned, perhaps a little too slim for me, but nice nonetheless. she had an exceptionally cute face, and she kept looking at me and then looking away. perhaps it was her aloofness which was turning me on.

i fended off three advances from dancers, some crazy. this one girl sounded like she was on crack: she came up to me and said 'i know you.' and i said 'no you don't'. and she said 'i love you.' and i said 'no you don't'. and she said 'you buy me drink, bar fine me and take me hotel for boom boom.' and i said 'no you don't. oh sorry, were you saying something?'

she finally got the hint, and so i went back to looking at ms. attractive. so i finally figured out what was so damned cute about the girl - she looked exactly like my 16 year old niece. oh you sick fuck kumbu. yes, i was as shocked as you are. that pretty much means she is off limits, no? i mean, while it is not [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord128][CodeWord128][/url], it is virtual [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord128][CodeWord128][/url], no?

well, maybe one drink wont hurt...(sick fuck kumbu)...

anyway, a few circles of the carousel later, i decided it was time for the rubber to hit the road, so i leaned forward and as she passed by on the carousel, i did a little finger wave to her. she looked at me confused, and then motioned like 'oh, you mean me?' that was the first clue.

she scampers off stage and gets dressed (they are pretty much nude on stage), and when she arrives she sits down with the verve of youth. she does not ask me anything, she does not ask for a drink, she just sits down and grabs my arm and puts it around herself. i look at her face, and it is super, super sweet. a cute smile, pert nose, awesome eyes, great bone structure, and her hair was cut short into a bob of sorts.

i then see her looking at a dancer on stage, and this dancer is giving her instructions. telling her what to do next. uh-oh, clue #2.

i slowly figure out that she does not know what she is doing. i eventually order her a drink, and when the little lady-drink ticket arrives, she does not know what it is. one of the on-stage dancers motions to her to keep it. it dawns on me that she's a total newbie.

before i can ask her anything, she asks me if i speak thai. i say nit noi. turns out she speaks no english, nothing, nada, less than nit noi. crap. so she is a newbie, and speaks no english, could this get any worse?

i first ask her if this is her first day, and she says yes. first, first day, and i am her first customer ever. i ask her how old she is, and she gleefully says 17. my eyes bug out of my head. i pull out my phone and type '17?' and she, without any shame or embarrassment, nods her head happily. she then proceeds to beg me to take her to the hotel. at this point, i notice that she keeps looking over into the corner at this middle aged woman for guidance. i ask her who that is, and she says it is her mama. are you kidding me???

i pay up, kiss her on the cheek, slip her a 100b note and tell her 'first day for you, chok dee' and run outta there as fast as i can.

so i managed to avoid the virtual defiling of my brother's daughter because she was basically the same age as my brother's daughter. i thought i was a sick fuck, but in the end, not even this sick fuck would cross that line.

[QUOTE=DRRonin]A small round-up from me as well.[/quote]

good stuff Ronin. agree with amost everything you said


[quote]Mercury - 2nd floor to the right - felt like I was in a retirement home for old strippers. Ghastly. Unfortunately, I didn't notice till I ordered my beer - one sip and I was out to the merriment of my waitress. I was the only customer in there which should have given me a small clue.[/quote]

I found one of my best finds ever in here, and although she lasted about a grand total of 2 weeks before retiring from the bargirl scene, I still check this place out once in a while. Pretty low quality generally.


[quote]Rainbow 3 - 2nd floor to the left - from 2 weeks ago - a real surprise to me - often has a couple cuties but this time nearly every girl was worth a look with some outstanding small cuties - and the cuter ones were going topless. Many fewer girls than the other 3 Rainbow bars but of a higher quality I thought.[/quote]

This place is also very nice inside. Probably the nicest gogo. Several cute small girls indeed, but they seem to have a bit of attitude here.

[quote]Thermae - the usual story - the Japanese rule the roost. During the troubles there were very few Japanese but the pretty girls still would not give me the time of day. One friend went to talk with one the other night and was waved away before he could even get out a "hello". Now there are a number of less good looking girls there - usually sitting on the right or in the middle but they are pretty much bottom of the barrel material - all the pretty ones stand to the left and "kinichiwa" all night long. But its not a bad place to just look. I took one girl who was an ex-NPL girl who I knew - on the way out her friends said something in Thai and she told me they asked her why she was going with a Farang - "jai dee" she replied. [/quote]

Thermae is incredibly awkward with the way the girls just stand there. Reminds me of grade school dances. Went there once and only attained eye contact from 2 girls.

[QUOTE=Kumbu]

So I managed to avoid the virtual defiling of my brother's daughter because she was basically the same age as my brother's daughter. I thought I was a sick fuck, but in the end, not even this sick fuck would cross that line.

[/QUOTE]

A monger among men with a talent for writing and still the gentleman.

Hope others have your conscience but I doubt it. Some nasty old guy (Aussie, probably :) ) will do the deed and not think twice about it.

Really do enjoy your writings.

Slim

P.S.
I do love the guys from downunder, so no flames, please

Thanks for the kind words, I appreciate those who take the time to give me feedback. I did think about this issue. Someone at some point is going to introduce this innocent (or not) child to how the real world works, and maybe it would have been a good thing for that person to be me. But at the time I thought this was me rationalizing my desire to take her. I am also aware that by posting a report on her, this will probably motivate said 'nasty old guy', Aussie or otherwise, to make a special trip down there to taste the pleasure of youth. But it's not as if she would remain untouched forever, and therefore there's not much use in NOT reporting. So whoever that guy ends up being, all that matters is that it wont be me.
[QUOTE=Nvslim]Some nasty old guy (Aussie, probably :) ) will do the deed and not think twice about it.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Kumbu]Thanks for the kind words, I appreciate those who take the time to give me feedback.[/QUOTE]

Hi Kumbu,

Excellent reporting here in the Thailand threads. I always enjoy your posting-assuming that you are the same Kumbu who for a while a few years back kept us entertained & informed with your Berlin exploits.

Keep up the good work and maybe you will make it back to Berlin one of these days. The mongering is more costly here but also offers maybe more variety.

AM

Angus! Yes, indeed, I am said Kumbu. It's a small forum, I suppose. I in fact just recently was raving about the wonders of Berlin to an ISG member I met here in BKK - I think I convinced him to give it a shot. I called him Oscar in my reports - hey Oscar, read Angus' reports, they are the gold standard on the Berlin thread. [QUOTE=Angus Magee]Hi Kumbu,

Excellent reporting here in the Thailand threads. I always enjoy your posting-assuming that you are the same Kumbu who for a while a few years back kept us entertained & informed with your Berlin exploits.

Keep up the good work and maybe you will make it back to Berlin one of these days. The mongering is more costly here but also offers maybe more variety.

AM[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Kumbu]Angus! Yes, indeed, I am said Kumbu. It's a small forum, I suppose. I in fact just recently was raving about the wonders of Berlin to an ISG member I met here in BKK - I think I convinced him to give it a shot. I called him Oscar in my reports - hey Oscar, read Angus' reports, they are the gold standard on the Berlin thread.[/QUOTE]


You can tell him that if he comes to Berlin I can certainly help with tips and tricks of the local scene. My activities have taken me to the FKK section the past years and so I am branching out into the rest of Germany. Currently I am suffered a financial set back so I am not so active at the moment, but the cash is slowly again starting to flow so it should be just for another few months that I am on the sideline.

AM

PS-Are you now living in Thailand? It seems that you a least spend a great deal of time there.

You can check out some of my other monger inspired writing at [url]www.angusmagee.com[/url]

It is a bit of the more philosophical side to the hobby.

Kumbu, I haven't posted much lately but always have been a frequent visitor of this Forum (my paid subscription expired recently). I have enjoyed your post greatly. You have a gift of writing.

[QUOTE=Angus Magee]PS-Are you now living in Thailand? It seems that you a least spend a great deal of time there. [/QUOTE]No, not living here, I have had the great privilege of coming here for work several times over the last year or so. But that looks like it may come to an end soon...[QUOTE=Angus Magee]You can check out some of my other monger inspired writing at [url]www.angusmagee.com[/url] [/QUOTE]
Great stuff!

first off i'd like to thank all those who contribute reports, tips, tricks, and even mistakes made along the way. as someone who's done a fair bit of mongering in tijuana, amps in southern california, and a trip to phuket two years ago, i've found isg and usg to be invaluable sources of information. so thank you all.

first time in bangkok

this has been my third trip to thailand (i try to make it out once a year) but my first time in bangkok. originally i decided to try patpong as my hotel is nearby, but after walking past there and reading a bit about it, it seemed too sleazy for me. so i decided to try nana instead, mainly because of what i have read about rainbow 4. so off i go, looking for rainbow on the 2nd level of nep

great place i must say. two stages packed with dancers, 80 percent of which have tight little bodies. lots of great legs and assess, some girls with nice boobs here and there.

i sat down at one of the stages and proceeded to get my drink on. i'm ordering beers and doing shots of tequila and really having a good time. unfortunately for me is i have a hard time stopping once i get going, which can lead to a case of whiskey dick which i'll explain later.

i try to sit there and smile at the thai girls, and they see to really like that. i was getting lots of eye contact from the girls not on stage, but i waved them all off with a smile. i wanted to get buzzed first and have some drinks.

an older, unattractive drunk dancer took a liking to me, trying to set me up with other dancers. she danced in front of me and chit-chatted a bit. i wasn't bothered by her, actually i thought it was funny. she kept telling me how much she liked me but how ugly she thought she was. she kept asking me to take her home. i kept being the nice guy, and that seemed to really go off well with the other girls around the bar. so i figured i was scoring points with my friendliness and patience. i ended up buying the ugly drunk girl a drink and told her to get lost (in a nice way).

an english guy was at next to me and had the most hardcore of british accents, and the beers weren't making him any more decipherable. turns out to be a cool guy who has been in bkk for a while. he's pretty forward, grabbing and pinching the dancers from time to time. i don't think all thai girls like that, as i actually saw a girl turn him down. he was a fit and not ugly, so that rejection must have had something to do with his attitude i would imagine.

we sit and chat a bit, drinking and doing shots. at this point its past 1am and were both pretty drunk. we both are interested in barfining girls tonight and i start narrowing down my selections. one girl in particular really catches my eye; tiny, very young looking, better boobs than most, very cute face, and an amazing ass (it even has a cute dimple on the side, never seen that before!)

as i bring up the topic of short time hotels, he mentions a girl he's had an eye on at a different bar and suggests we can get better prices there. so off we go to spankys at around 1:30am.

pickings are quite slim here but my english friend finds the girl he's been looking for. i sit there and start staring at a dancing girl's boob job and he motions her over. she's decent enough, probably mid twenties and her boob job looks cheap but not terrible. great body, very shapely lags, and overall a good pick. we discuss price: bar fine was 400 i think? her long time price was 1500. i figured that was a good price, and she accepted the offer. i knew i wanted long time because of how drunk i was and i didn't want to bring her back to my hotel because my legitimate girlfriend of 2 years had just been staying with me for a week before going back to visit her parents in a different city. i didn't want to be embarrassed by bringing a new girl to my room.

she grabs her things, takes my hand, and finds a hotel down the street. i'm practically a stumbling drunk at this point, i couldn't even operate an atm properly! (this night taught me the importance of limiting myself when going out, and i'm glad i didn't have to learn a more expensive lesson!). the motel she finds is a really cheap, 600 b per night place.

get to the room, shower, she takes forever taking off all her makeup and her stupid big-eye contacts (i really hate these things, but thai girls seem to love them). we chat during this time, building a nice rapport. for some reason i turn into captain save-a-hoe with these girls- i ask about their past (always from issan is seems) and i try to convince them to quit the business. i just fell bad sometimes, and my nice-guy conscience kicks in. but alas, this girl has been in the game for a while, has good english, and was hoping the monger who proposed to her would follow through on his promise. she recently realized that it wasn't going to happen and has given up on trying to find love. she tells me about how she believes in karma and that he fortune teller says she has to work as a go-go because in a past life she was a man who raped a girl. talk about living with guilt! she is convinced that until she is forgiven, she will always have bad karma and will work in the bars. sweet girl, naïve but also experienced.

bed time, it's probably 2:30am and i'm drunk and exhausted. but at this point i want to boom boom this sweet chick who keeps calling me dah-ling (darling-which i hate her calling me that, sounds so fake) badly that i wrap the snake up and try to smash. but that case of whiskey dick shuts all of that down and we just sleep.

i wake up early, around 7-something. it's the liquor, churning my empty stomach and not letting me get back to sleep. i wake her up my kissing and caressing her body. i'm kissing up and down, but she says its too early and let's sleep (she's right) but i wanted to get back to my hotel room and wasn't going back empty handed. she says she hates morning boom boom, and i understand, but i need my moneys worth. boom boom, some more chatting, and i get ready to go back to my room. she offers her phone number but i decline, worried that my girlfriend might somehow see it. instead i get her email, but i wrote it down incorrectly and doesn't work. i'm disappointed, and want to repeat with her with better results but i doubt i'm going back to spankys. i'm only here a few more days.

for my next report, i'll describe my second trip to rainbow 4 where i nabbed that tiny, cute girl who i saw a few days previous :)

Will be in BKK soon and want to try at least one pregnant girl and/or a milky mom.

Has anybody seen a lady like I would like?

Of course I'll monger Nana Plaza, Soy Cowboy and so on.

That "Captain Save-a-Hoe" had me roaring. Know exactly what you meant. Great write-up. I am up country now and raring to get back to RB 4. Two there that I have my eye on.

[QUOTE=Bolthead]For some reason I turn into Captain Save-a-Hoe with these girls- I ask about their past (always from Issan is seems)[/QUOTE]

[quote=bolthead]first off i'd like to thank all those who contribute reports, tips, tricks, and even mistakes made along the way. as someone who's done a fair bit of mongering in tijuana, amps in southern california, and a trip to phuket two years ago, i've found isg and usg to be invaluable sources of information. so thank you all.

first time in bangkok

this has been my third trip to thailand (i try to make it out once a year) but my first time in bangkok. originally i decided to try patpong as my hotel is nearby, but after walking past there and reading a bit about it, it seemed too sleazy for me. so i decided to try nana instead, mainly because of what i have read about rainbow 4. so off i go, looking for rainbow on the 2nd level of nep

great place i must say. two stages packed with dancers, 80 percent of which have tight little bodies. lots of great legs and assess, some girls with nice boobs here and there.

i sat down at one of the stages and proceeded to get my drink on. i'm ordering beers and doing shots of tequila and really having a good time. unfortunately for me is i have a hard time stopping once i get going, which can lead to a case of whiskey dick which i'll explain later.

i try to sit there and smile at the thai girls, and they see to really like that. i was getting lots of eye contact from the girls not on stage, but i waved them all off with a smile. i wanted to get buzzed first and have some drinks.

an older, unattractive drunk dancer took a liking to me, trying to set me up with other dancers. she danced in front of me and chit-chatted a bit. i wasn't bothered by her, actually i thought it was funny. she kept telling me how much she liked me but how ugly she thought she was. she kept asking me to take her home. i kept being the nice guy, and that seemed to really go off well with the other girls around the bar. so i figured i was scoring points with my friendliness and patience. i ended up buying the ugly drunk girl a drink and told her to get lost (in a nice way).

an english guy was at next to me and had the most hardcore of british accents, and the beers weren't making him any more decipherable. turns out to be a cool guy who has been in bkk for a while. he's pretty forward, grabbing and pinching the dancers from time to time. i don't think all thai girls like that, as i actually saw a girl turn him down. he was a fit and not ugly, so that rejection must have had something to do with his attitude i would imagine.

we sit and chat a bit, drinking and doing shots. at this point its past 1am and were both pretty drunk. we both are interested in barfining girls tonight and i start narrowing down my selections. one girl in particular really catches my eye; tiny, very young looking, better boobs than most, very cute face, and an amazing ass (it even has a cute dimple on the side, never seen that before!)

as i bring up the topic of short time hotels, he mentions a girl he's had an eye on at a different bar and suggests we can get better prices there. so off we go to spankys at around 1:30am.

pickings are quite slim here but my english friend finds the girl he's been looking for. i sit there and start staring at a dancing girl's boob job and he motions her over. she's decent enough, probably mid twenties and her boob job looks cheap but not terrible. great body, very shapely lags, and overall a good pick. we discuss price: bar fine was 400 i think? her long time price was 1500. i figured that was a good price, and she accepted the offer. i knew i wanted long time because of how drunk i was and i didn't want to bring her back to my hotel because my legitimate girlfriend of 2 years had just been staying with me for a week before going back to visit her parents in a different city. i didn't want to be embarrassed by bringing a new girl to my room.

she grabs her things, takes my hand, and finds a hotel down the street. i'm practically a stumbling drunk at this point, i couldn't even operate an atm properly! (this night taught me the importance of limiting myself when going out, and i'm glad i didn't have to learn a more expensive lesson!). the motel she finds is a really cheap, 600 b per night place.

get to the room, shower, she takes forever taking off all her makeup and her stupid big-eye contacts (i really hate these things, but thai girls seem to love them). we chat during this time, building a nice rapport. for some reason i turn into captain save-a-hoe with these girls- i ask about their past (always from issan is seems) and i try to convince them to quit the business. i just fell bad sometimes, and my nice-guy conscience kicks in. but alas, this girl has been in the game for a while, has good english, and was hoping the monger who proposed to her would follow through on his promise. she recently realized that it wasn't going to happen and has given up on trying to find love. she tells me about how she believes in karma and that he fortune teller says she has to work as a go-go because in a past life she was a man who raped a girl. talk about living with guilt! she is convinced that until she is forgiven, she will always have bad karma and will work in the bars. sweet girl, naïve but also experienced.

bed time, it's probably 2:30am and i'm drunk and exhausted. but at this point i want to boom boom this sweet chick who keeps calling me dah-ling (darling-which i hate her calling me that, sounds so fake) badly that i wrap the snake up and try to smash. but that case of whiskey dick shuts all of that down and we just sleep.

i wake up early, around 7-something. it's the liquor, churning my empty stomach and not letting me get back to sleep. i wake her up my kissing and caressing her body. i'm kissing up and down, but she says its too early and let's sleep (she's right) but i wanted to get back to my hotel room and wasn't going back empty handed. she says she hates morning boom boom, and i understand, but i need my moneys worth. boom boom, some more chatting, and i get ready to go back to my room. she offers her phone number but i decline, worried that my girlfriend might somehow see it. instead i get her email, but i wrote it down incorrectly and doesn't work. i'm disappointed, and want to repeat with her with better results but i doubt i'm going back to spankys. i'm only here a few more days.

for my next report, i'll describe my second trip to rainbow 4 where i nabbed that tiny, cute girl who i saw a few days previous :)[/quote]



bolthead

great report

have the same problem, once drunk can fuck all night but cannot pop a nut. after several hours the girls no longer think i am a stud, more like a pain.

my solution is to get ph #'s and see the girls in the afternoon leaving the rest of the night to go out drinking with the boys and find new ph #'s.

usg? what is does the u stand for?

guido88

[QUOTE=Guido88]Bolthead

Great report

Have the same problem, once drunk can fuck all night but cannot pop a nut. After several hours the girls no longer think I am a stud, more like a pain.

My solution is to get ph #'s and see the girls in the afternoon leaving the rest of the night to go out drinking with the boys and find new ph #'s.

USG? What is does the U stand for?

Guido88[/QUOTE]Do you find that getting the digits and arranging something outside the bar saves you the barfine? How about her price, is it a bit lower or the same?

As for USG, I am referring to this forum's sister site, USA Sex Guide ;)

Gonna start writing up the next report, probably one of the best boom boom sessions I've ever had, period!

I've really enjoyed my first trip to Bangkok but alas my time here is drawing to close. This is only a temporary set-back however, as I intend to move to BKK full-time within the next 6 months. But this preview of life in this crazy city has been amazingly fun. I've spent more then what I allocated for this trip however, taking my (legit) gf out all over seeing the sites, eating at expensive restaurants driving up the tab, ordering room service and so on. I was determined to come out here and live it up, and I happily declare that mission a success. Had I budgeted my funds more carefully, I might have been able to afford more trips mongering (would have loved to try an Oily massage) so if I had any regrets, it would be not monitoring my money better. But I'll learn. Next time, right?

Anyways, determined to make up for the mistakes I made my first time out at Nana, I decided to go about it a different way this time. I enjoyed an inexpensive but tasty meal at the hotel, along with a bit of drinking as well to get a proper buzz going (mongering is tough for me to do sober, I need the inhibitions lowered a bit and the beer goggles to kick in ever so slightly). Once fed, showered and buzzed (a feeling like a million bucks) I head out again. I've read somewhere that 10:30pm is a good time to go out so for me, that's magic hour. In the taxi and back to Nana.

This taxi doesn't seem to know what I really meant when I said "Soi Nana" as he dropped me off on the main street. I looked around and said I figure this out, so I hoof it down the street looking for landmarks (I remember seeing a 7/11 on the corner, so I tried to find it). Walking I go, right into what seems like another world. Soi Africa I think it's called. +Puke+ We all have a place in our home town where we wish someone would just drop a nuke and wipe that area out and that's how I feel about Soi Africa. I hope it doesn't spread. If you don't know about this place, imagine so many Arabs, Persians, and Africans walking around that you think you are in the Middle East. No offense to anyone, because I have nothing against people of those descents, but on Soi Africa you can tell its full of shady people. African hookers and guys dealing drugs, basically like a ghetto run by African mafia. I wanted out of there fast.

Luckily for me, I seem to guess correctly and now I see the 7/11 I was looking for, along with the bright lights and ladyboys of Nana (You can miss them, they literally stand at the entrance of Nana Plaza, towering over the real chicks).

I beeline back up to Rainbow 4, chuckling as I see a dude who probably doesn't know any better get pulled into Cassanova(?). Into RB4 I go, sitting right in the middle and breathe a sigh of relief. Finally.

My waitress for last time sees me and comes by with a smile. She's chatting me up this time, hand on my leg, the occasional boob rub when she needs to squeeze by (girls can get off on that by the way, I've been told that it's a subtle form of rubbing up against on someone. If a girl does it to you subtly, score 1 point for you!). She brings me my Singha and I start sipping it while I look for my selection. I'm not hear to drink, I just want to get the hottest chick I can find. And as luck would have it, there she is, the girl who I saw last time. I'm starring at her, making sure my mouth isn't too agape but my waitress sees who I'm fixed upon and asks me do I want her? I sheepishly nod Yes! and my angel comes down to sit next to me.

Wow, she looks even younger up close. She says she's 20 years old, but back at the hotel she confirms she's 19! Before you guys call me a cradle-robber, I should mention I'm in my mid-tweenties so the age gap isn't tremendous. Anyways, her she is. Tiny. Shapely. An ass that just pops straight out. Great boobs. CUTE in the face. Braces so she doesn't smile too much but they don't bother me at all. Just an epic package as far as I'm concerned. I wanted her, at any cost.

We talk about hooking up. Her English isn't great as she's only been in town for 5 months. She's new to the game. 600 B barfine and 2000 B for short time session (can anyone confirm this is the standard price?). Compared to what I paid at Spankys, the sticker shock almost knocked me out of my chair. I badly wanted long time but that's 4000 B and she didn't seem too interested in that as she has school in the morning (hot schoolgirl!). We agree on short time but I tell her I don't want to go upstairs. Short time back at my place. I'm hoping she'll get tired and will agree to long time. She mulls the offer, asks where I stay, mulls some more, obviously isn't too crazy about the idea, but I'm sweet-talking her the whole time. Finally, okay she agrees. She goes to change into her clothes and I'm sitting there kinda slack jawed and dumb. One of those "I can't believe this is really happening" moments. She comes back looking H-O-T-T, too hot actually. I'm now a bit worried about what the front desk girls at the hotel are going to think, but oh well.

In the kinda long taxi ride, I continue to try to build rapport, but I can tell she's nervous. She doesn't really open up too much. I ask her if she has facebook and she does, but I can tell she's hesitant to give it to me so I don't pressure her. I load up my facebook on my phone and show her pictures of my puppy back in the States which she seems to like. She shows me a picture of her puppy as well. I'm thinking I'm making progress here.

Arrive at the hotel, offer to buy her some food but she's not hungry. No one at the front desk at this hour, score! I try to hustle to the elevator but a security guard from down the hall waives down my little angel and she shows him her I'd or something. Not sure what that's about (anyone know?). Into my apartment which I'm quite proud of, and I offer her a drink. She says no again, she doesn't want anything. She wants to take a shower so I show her to the bathroom. She still seems nervous, which I guess is good for her own protection in general but I'm not a creep. Kinda sucks, I wanted a GFE and I didn't think I was going to get that. She tells me short time is one hour, and I hope her shower time doesn't cut into it. Fortunately she's in and out, asks me to shower but I'm already I tell her. She comes into my bed with a towel on and a tube of KY in hand. She's ready to go. Thankfully, so am I - No whiskey dick this time baby! I try to get a BJ, but she'll only do a CBJ which I pass on. I take her towel off and enter her easily (KY jelly in the house). She's tight and tiny and it looks awesome looking down and seeing me inside this little angel. I'm doing her like a rockstar, flipping her around to multiple positions. As she probably weighs 90lbs I lift her up while standing and start doing her, lowering her down, up and down, with her arms around my neck. I gently put her back onto the edge of the bed and continue the rockstar love-making. She's not too much into kissing so I'm making sure to bury my face in those awesome tities every chance I get. Come to think of it, I shouldve doggie styled her because her ass was amazing but her face was so cute, her boobies too perky, that I couldn't turn away. Her eyes were shut and she was doing these little moans throughout the session. Her toes were curled, one hand gripping the pillow, the other on my hip. Total rockstar that night I was. Man, it was great. Running out of time she asked me if I want to cum now. Okay I figure, let's bust a nutt now. I was getting worn out as it was. Fun factor I would rate a 9. Physically I would rate her a 9 as well. Personality a 5 or 6. If she was more friendly and not so nervous, and if she stayed long time with me, I might have married this chick! Just kidding.

Before she leaves, and she was gone in a flash with barely a good-bye, I manage to get her email. She hasn't responded back to me yet (it's been a couple of days) so I don't know if I'll see her again before I leave. I probably have funds for one last night of mongering before I head back to the States, and I'm thinking about checking out Soi Cowboy for the first time.

Spent 4 hours last Sunday in SOL between12 noon and 4pm.

Enjoyed the company of Piang and Punt - two of the better looking girls working there in my opinion.

Fucked them both on the couch and came in their mouths. BJ from both girls as expected very good.

With drinks, 2 fucks and 2 BJs, I still didn't spend too much in 4 hours, which is why SOL is such a great place.

On my way walking back down PP2 ran into Rabbit and had a quick chat. No doubt she gives geat head, but she is starting to look very frayed round the edges these days.

[QUOTE=Goatboy55]On my way walking back down PP2 ran into Rabbit and had a quick chat. No doubt she gives geat head, but she is starting to look very frayed round the edges these days.[/QUOTE]
Yes, sadly, I noticed this as well last December. The difference in her looks from a couple of years earlier was dramatic and startling to me. Perhaps ingesting semen from thousands of different men is not the best health regimen there is.

I met up with Spider916 for a beer at Bacara on Tuesday night, and let me say that a finer gentleman you shall not find. We had a great time, meeting up with a friend of his as well, who, for the sake of parity, we shall refer to as Scorpion. Together, we trolled the bars of Cowboy in search of perfection, with each of us settling for something somewhat less than that. Here is our story, from Kumbu's perspective.

I worked all day, showered, had some dinner and then off to Soi Cowboy. We met downstairs at Bacara and Spider suggested we move upstairs. I'm not usually an upstairs kind of guy, but the girls up there are more to Spider's liking. I went up, a little curious, and I was quite surprised that the girls were half-decent. There must have been 15 girls in each shift, with many hostesses bumbling around too. There were enough customers to make the bar seem somewhat full. We sat and sipped our beers and got acquainted for the next 20 minutes or so, doing the regular 'so what's your kind of gal?' thing. Out of respect to Spider, I will not share his preferred type, but you all know mine: legs, ass, and nothing else.

Spider's friend Scorpion showed up, and when you have three mongers together, you can't help but start with the philosophics of whoring. So that was fun. But I have to say I learned a lot from these two gentlemen – I am obviously a mid-level professional compared to these guys – my hat goes off to you.

It was clear that I was outclassed by Spider from the very beginning. As soon as we sat down, girls were making googly eyes with him, coy smiles, sexy little butt wiggles in his direction. And he just let all of that bounce right off him like rain in a mid-summer downpour. It soon became apparent that old Spider is a populist, in the sense that he tries his damnedest to make sure as much of the population has tasted the bounties of Arachnia. At least three dancers and two hostesses were all over him at some point, but he managed to shed himself of these unwanted advances with charm and grace. Made me look like a three-handed putz is what he did.

Scorpion was also a super player. They both knew their craft, and I dug in and decided to watch and learn as best I could. We sat there over the course of a couple of beers and critiqued each girl, considered her positives and negatives, considered the hidden potential and basically bullshitted with each other. During the course of this bullshitting, I discovered Scorpion's girl type: skinny, tall and big titties. Silicone titties are fine, just so long as they are big. And did I mention they had to be big?

We then decided that as plentiful as the product was in Bacara, none of it was to our taste. So we bailed. We made our way over to Tilac, perhaps the second most popular place in Cowboy. This place has a very different feel to it and you get a very different view of the girls. It was crowded, and it was hard to find a spot that would hold all three of us, so we ended up on three adjacent stools at the end of the stage. This meant we were looking up the skirts of all the girls, which suited me just fine.

As soon as we sat down, Spider started to whisper numbers into my ear.

Spider:: Number xxx is superb – she does some nasty shit.
Kumbu: Umm, ok, xxx, check.
Spider: Oh, and that one over there, the thin one with the tattoo, she's a sweetheart.
Kumbu: Right, tattoo...thin...
Etc.

So Spider knew his stuff, and I was learning. None of us saw anything we liked here either, so on we went. Next we went to Dollhouse. As we entered, there were lots of girls on the dance floor – maybe 15? But literally 15 seconds after we sat down, Spider was murmuring to me 'the thing about this place is that it is hit and miss.'

Right you are Spider. Sometimes Dollhouse can have some spectacular talent. I was in there a week ago and I saw some very nice bodies. But tonight, there was very little to see. Scorpion hit the head upon entry, and when he arrived, he sat down and in total amazement he asks 'Where are all the dolls?' There were none. Scorpion made an extremely insightful comment to me: the three of us (Kumbu, Spider and Scorpion) were three guys who had very different tastes (I wont outline how different, and if Dollhouse cannot display a single woman who appeals to any of us three, they are doing something wrong. But it wasn't just Dollhouse – the same was true at Bacara and Tilac.

Over the course of these three bars, we must have seen a combined 80-100 naked (or semi naked) women. And not a single one of them was worthy of our picky heroes. We have become so damned spoiled that when sex is literally forcing itself upon us, we push back for ever greater levels of perfection. So just to be clear: I think this is a reflection of how picky we are, and not hos attractive the girls on display are. If you are horny, and you have not been laid every night for 30 nights, then you will undoubtedly find the pickings far more plentiful.

Eventually, we made our way into Shark, and here it is that the story finally finds some meaning. The stage was jam-packed full of girls in bright yellow attire. The variety on display was dizzying, and the quality was varied. As we entered, a girl at the entrance takes Spider's hand and walks in with us. He does not object, since she is fucking smoking hot. So it is the four of us, sitting there looking up at 30 or so semi named girls. There is a great vibe in the place, lots of customers, lots of activity, lots of potential.

Again, Spider starts to whisper tips into my ear. “Psst, that girl over there, she will do anything you ask her to.”

I must have been mad not to have taken that girl, but I was now in the process of being smitten by a dark-skinned lovely standing before me. She was significantly older than most of the other girls, and she was somewhat bland in terms of body, but we had some kind of connection going - I am not sure how to explain it. Scorpion takes a look at her and all he can say is 'That would not have been my choice, but ok.'

But you know Scorpion's type: skinny, tall and big tits. This girl had no tits to speak of, but ohmygodwhatanass. It jutted out like a brick house, I mean it was built to boggle the ass-lover's mind. Her legs were shapely, although more slender than I like, and she had a fantastically beautiful smile. So we had some chemistry, and little kumbu was beginning to awaken.

Meanwhile, a big-titted girl had moseyed over to Scorpion, and he looked to be ready to BF. He apparently had been with her many times before, so he knew exactly what he was getting. And our Spider had sealed the deal with the hostess and he was getting ready to depart. First to leave was Spider. We said our fond goodbyes, and to be honest, it was a genuine pleasure to have roamed with the man. I hope you had a good time on Tuesday night sir.

Next to leave was Scorpion – an equally gentle and informed individual with whom I was privileged to have companied that night. The rest of the story is about me and the brick house, but before that, a few words about the benefits of hunting in a pack.

I am usually the lone wolf, and most of my stories have described what it is like to be a single, brown male in a monger's paradise. But tonight I was part of a pack, and the difference was quite astounding. First of all, the power dimension seems to shift. That is, when you are alone, the girls see you are prey. They see you as easy bait, low hanging fruit, or whatever other metaphor you prefer here. And that's because you ARE easy prey. When you are alone, you have to fend for yourself and you don't get the benefits of the group.

Those benefits, as far as I can tell, are intimidation. It is far more intimidating for a single girl to approach a single guy in a group. It was visibly obvious that the girls were looking but hesitating. This was true in Bacara as well as Tilac and Dollhouse. The way this was broken was by the cunning hostess who grabbed Spider on the way into Shark. She grabbed onto him and followed him in, picking off the leader of the pack. Once that was done, it was only a matter of time before the others were picked off, one by one. I was the last to go, but that just means I was the least appealing to the girls. The intimidation factor offers a measure of protection against unwanted advances, which is great. It gives you the luxury of looking away from a girl, and not having her immediately walk over and start pestering you. Instead, it requires much more eye contact for a girl to work up the nerve to attack you. Or you can just call her over. But that's the benefit of working in a pack. However you do it though, I can guarantee you this: it will be fun.

So...on to the Brick House Ass.

Dear Kumbu,

I surely had a great time with you and Scorpion but I had even a better time tonight reading your fantastically well written report about our little Cowboy trip. Hope we can repeat it soon and hopefully find some better talent then.



[QUOTE=Kumbu]I met up with Spider916 [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Bolthead]She comes back looking H-O-T-T.[/QUOTE]
Bolt, you clearly had sex with a smokin' hot babe. I have been to Rainbow 4 and know exactly just how beautiful some of their best looking girls are.

But I must confess that after I read your report, I think you may have missed out some great sex. I can’t deny that looks are very important. I am one of those guys that can't be truly satisfied unless the girl is really pretty, but given that the girl has the looks; performance and attitude are what count. It all comes down to 3 strikes and you’re out, no matter how beautiful the girl is, or how sweet her breasts are or how amazing her pussy is. I think your girl had 3 strikes.

Strike 1: No soapy shower action.
Strike 2: No BBBJ.
Strike 3: She asks you to cum inferring the clock is ticking and you are running out of time.

It's all good. Read a post I made about a year ago about a starfish experience I had with a Rainbow 4 princess. The girl was a 9 in looks, but her performance and attitude kind of sucked. I did not regret the experience, but believe me; I have had many more satisfying times with better BKK girls. So will you.

[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo]The girl was a 9 in looks, but her performance and attitude kind of sucked. I did not regret the experience, but believe me; I have had many more satisfying times with better BKK girls. So will you.[/QUOTE]Well said Natty. Reading your response, and coupling it with the experience of last night's girl, I must say you are right on the money.

I made my maiden voyage into Soi Cowboy last night and had an incredible time. Started off with Sharks, then over to Baccara. Baccara was great, sat next to some really funny older asian dudes, they were totally wasted. I decided to buy them a round in appreciation of them letting me laugh at their exploits. The favor was returned and before I knew it I had consumed way more alcohol than I planned. Once it hits your tongue...

Realizing that Shark and Baccara were more expensive than I was willing to pay, I went bargain hunting. I say this without any recollection however. I only vaguely remember going to a place called Afterschool. And I certainly don't remember picking my lady up. But there she was last night, in bed with me.

She was great, a total sweetheart. Turns out she's 30 and not normally attractive enough for me to pick up, but she is nonetheless pretty with great legs (aren't they all? I love this country). We boom boom at least three, maybe four times during her overnight stay. She is so kind, and really took care of me. Perhaps this is an example of what the old-timers describe when talking about Thailand 20-30 years ago. She genuinely likes me, we do lots of DFK and she never needed any lubrication and she was generating plenty via natural means. Is it me or are Thai girls not good at (or used to) kissing? It's still fun though, as I get a kick out of teaching them so to speak. Apparently I was spanking her a lot last night! I'm a bit embarrassed hehe. She was great though and we built up fantastic rapport. A real GFE. My best yet, honestly. We were really into eachother and there was lots of passion. She never resisted me and welcomed all my advances. Somehow while drunk I managed to talk her into BJs and boom boom sans condoms. Not sure if that was the best idea but damn it was fun and she wore me out. She was getting hers just like I was getting mine. I had a blast and as this is my final day here, I think I will be going back to the States with a permanent grin on my face. I got her email and will definitely contact her when I come back. Adorable girl. She was wasn't the hottest girl around but damn she took care of me. And she never charged me a set fee, it was up to me. I gave her 1500 B, a big hug, a kiss, and told her I would see her when I get back.

[QUOTE=Bolthead]..... Is it me or are Thai girls not good at (or used to) kissing? .....[/QUOTE]great story and about the kissing, read around and you will see that this matter has been recently commented: thai girls are not much used to DFK...

[QUOTE=Hallodri Love]Will be in BKK soon and want to try at least one pregnant girl and/or a milky mom.

Has anybody seen a lady like I would like?

Of course I'll monger Nana Plaza, Soy Cowboy and so on.[/QUOTE]Yes, me too. I like this idea and I'm looking forward to hear anybody who can suggest a particular place or girl.

[QUOTE=Goatboy55]Spent 4 hours last Sunday in SOL between12 noon and 4pm.

Enjoyed the company of Piang and Punt - two of the better looking girls working there in my opinion.

Fucked them both on the couch and came in their mouths. BJ from both girls as expected very good.

With drinks, 2 fucks and 2 BJs, I still didn't spend too much in 4 hours, which is why SOL is such a great place.

On my way walking back down PP2 ran into Rabbit and had a quick chat. No doubt she gives geat head, but she is starting to look very frayed round the edges these days.[/QUOTE]Hi can you give me more info on where is SOL

Is it a name of bar all?

Thank's

In Pat Pong area
Pat Pong 2
Just past Foodland
Same side as Foodland and just past it if you keep on walking toward Suriwong from Silom
Usually a few girls sitting out front at a small table
Star of Love is name of the place.
IS a BJ (or more) joint. Wide open display.



[QUOTE=Hotshanehot]Hi can you give me more info on where is SOL

Is it a name of bar all?

Thank's[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Jgm005]...Star of Love is name of the place...
[/QUOTE]
Hummm ... I've never been there, but thought the name was "Star Of Light."

spider, scorpion and kumbu rolled through soi cowboy on tuesday night, with spider and scoprion hooking up first, leaving two of us at shark agogo: kumbu and the brick-house ass. the shift ends and she makes her way to me. she sits on my lap and starts to chat, and she is one chatty catty. the chemistry we had built from afar extended quite nicely to our more intimate conversation, and before i knew it, i was paying for her drink and her bf.

we walk out 15 minutes later with her wearing a one-piece stretchy black dress. fuck, the girls at the hotel reception are going to have a field day with this one. we walk to the end of the soi and are attacked by the touts trying to get us to take a taxi.

'taxi sir!”
“taxi mister?”
“tuk-tuk sir!”
“meter taxi, right here, take this one...”
etc.

the trick to these guys is to completely ignore them, even when they cut you off and block your way. you need to walk right past them and never be tempted to take any one of them up on their offer. even when they say 'here, take this meter taxi.', you might think that it is a meter taxi, so no harm, right? wrong. as soon as you get in, they ask for a tip, or the driver turns around and gives you some bullshit about how it is night time and they have a flat rate of 300 baht. so don't follow the touts no matter what.

we walked through the hoards of touts, past the line of waiting tuk-tuks, past the proffered line of taxis, and to the traffic on the main street. there, there was a line of meter taxis that were not affiliated with the touts, we got in, and the first thing the taxi driver does is punch his meter on. so you know you are now on the clock. nice and easy.

all the way back, i said three things in circular repetition:
“mmmm-hmm...”
“i see...”
“yeah...”
these three phrases were interspersed between the girls constant yakking. she. did. not. stop. talking. we get into the hotel, and the talking continues. we sat there on the couch for a good half hour, my eyes closing from exhaustion, but little kumbu pushing me to persevere. i just couldn't find the right way to cut this shit off and get down to what mattered.

so i finally just got up while she was talking and walked into the shower. i think i could hear her talking while i was in the shower, and i am convinced it was to me, not on the phone. she then agreed to shower, but she insisted that it be alone. i asked why, and she said she has stretch marks from her babies. i asked “baby, or babies?” and she said “babies. two of them. but i have had four babies, two of them died.”

mutherfucker.

i had flash backs to my time in pattaya a few days earlier when i picked up a girl from beach rd and she had similar scars and stretch marks on her belly. i kissed the scars, thinking that would make her feel better, and that sent her into a depressing fit of crying. i was not in the mood to deal with that again.

so i decided to play is easy. i let her shower, when she got out i was on the couch with a towel around my waist. we played around a little, all the while she was talking non-stop. i eventually managed to get her into the bedroom, and i started to take the towel off, and she totally flips out. she jumps out of bed and starts running around like a headless chicken. i mean, it was frenzied, crazy, hands-waving-in-the-air kind of hysterical screaming. turns out she was looking for the light switches to dim the light so i would not see her stretch marks.

lights dimmed, girl subdued a little, and she is now naked on the bed. i start to play around, and she lets me feel the stretch marks. not particularly attractive, i agree, but i've seen and felt worse. but then i discover that she is bendy. she is so frikkin flexible it is unreal. she puts both feet behind her head and then starts to wiggle her bum. she does the full lotus while propped up on her shoulders. she lies flat on her front and then in a single move, she lifts her feet backward, arches her back and her feet touch the top of her head.

little kumbu is singing like andrea bocelli at the coliseum.

i get her onto her back and start to play with her limbs. i twist them this way and that, treating her like an action figure that i just got for christmas – what can it do? i wonder what will happen if i put the arm behind this and twist the leg that way behind the shoulder...as i was doing this, my left hand had surreptitiously found its way to her pussy and i was cupping it. perhaps 'palming' is a better word – i was using my full, open palm to slowly move it this way and that. the reason is that i needed to get her juices flowing since my trojan is unlubricated.

we did this for 5-6 minutes, and then my girl shows me why i picked her. once again, just like the girl in pattaya, this girl knows that her good side is her ass side. and she has the brick house to prove it. so she lies flat on her stomach and starts talking from that position. i, naturally, move into the double loaves with glee. i squeeze and press. i squash and compress. i split and peruse. her ass was, as has been my luck this entire month, simply superb. it was large, round and spec-tacular.

out of no where, she turns her head around and asks, “you ever do sek with girl here mai?” and her finger pokes at her ass. i felt like scooby doo: yabadabadoooooooooo. my first thought was that it was her period, and i was suddenly a little put-off. no dining at the y for you tonight, kumbu. but ass kissing seemed to be my thing these days, so why not. i kissed her ass cheeks slowly before answering her question, and then in order to answer her question, i poked my tongue into her asshole and murmered “mm-hmm”. she giggles a little, and then i ask her “you do in here a lot?” and she says “not a lot, but sometimes.” she then went on to tell me her entire anal sex history, from the first time a guy broke her anal virginity (she used that term, anal virginity), all the way through the 17th time she had anal sex, which was about three weeks ago. i asked her if she likes it, and she said the first time she did not, even though the guy was very gentle. she didn't get anything out of it. but over the next 16 times (!), she has begun to gain an appreciation for it. she didn't use these words, but she said something like (i) anal sex is an acquired taste, and (ii) anal sex is a much more subtle and different kind of pleasure from straight sex. i agreed with everything she had to say, all the while caressing and kissing said anal sphincter. funny, she yattered on while i rimmed away, what a perfect couple.

that lasted perhaps 10 minutes, and then we went straight into regular missionary sex. no anal at this point, as i wanted to pleasure her a little before knocking on her back door. if i went into her ass, i suspected that i would end within a matter of moments, so that was the very last thing on the menu. a desert of sorts. i had to eat my veggies, meat and potatoes before i could have my ice cream

so missionary for a while, but she was not coming. hmm, must not have the angle right. so i try a different angle, and i am getting whimpering and moaning, but nothing really earth shattering. hmm, i try a third angle, and the same old story. ok, time to bring out the secret weapon. i have a move, a special move, which is guaranteed* to bring a woman to climax. i only use it in the particularly difficult cases, as in this one. i do this partly because i don't want to over-use a good thing, and also because i want to save it for a possible later date with the girl (no fun if the sex is always the same – you have to have a secret which you can pull out when you really need something over her), and finally, it is a difficult maneuver to pull off. i'm obviously not going to divulge it here, but let's say it involves a lot of leg movements on my part, as well as plenty of variable angles of penetration.

right, so i start the maneuver, and she gasps as if she is about to die. yeah baby, my secret weapon. she opens her eyes and looks at me first with wonderment, and then as if i am a monster. hah! so i do it again, and she inhales air rapidly like she is about to dive into a swimming pool, and then she holds her breath. i do it again and she whimpers like a little girl as she exhales the air in her lungs. i then start to do it rhythmically, and she is just loving it. but you know, after a while she got used to it, and she stopped her crazy breathing and gasping. wtf? she repelled my special move!? damn she's a tough nut to crack.

so after a while, i look at her in puzzlement, and she looks back and says “i can only cum when i on top.” why the fuck didn't you say so lady? so we flip over, and at first she is gentle. she is slowly rocking back and forth, which is cool for me. and then she says “i can go faster?” to which i say “go as fast as you like baby, i want to see you cum.”

suddenly i am filled with pain and buzzing from all directions. i feel myself losing consciousness, and i fight back at it. as i regain my senses, i realize the pain is her going fucking batshit on my crotch. she was riding me like there was no tomorrow, and she had somehow contorted such that little kumbu was pressing *hard* against the upper side of her vaginal canal, the side that is the inside of the belly. furthermore, as she lifted and whacked herself back down onto me, her tail bone was absolutely smashing my balls – hence the almost-loss of consciousness. i first try to stop her from pounding me so hard, but have you ever tried to stop batshit? it's can't be done. it is a human impossibility – bat shit cannot be stopped. so i do the next best thing: i reach around her and pull my throbbing testicles out of the way of the meat pounder that is her tail bone. the pain begins to subside and i begin to regain my senses.

phew, that was close. so there i am, her jumping around like a monkey on crack, my dick being used as a dildo for her pleasure, and me pulling my ball-sack as hard as i can to keep it down and out of the way of the mortal danger that is her tail bone. that would make a good scene in a movie...not a good scene in real life, but in a movie: fabulous.

literally 60 seconds later, she screams out a loud, sustained, satisfying groan, and she collapses onto my chest. she whimpers about finishing too quickly, but i am glad it is all over. damn.

so she then leans back up and is sitting atop me, little kumbu still sheathed and tucked into her, and she apologizes for finishing so quickly. i ask her 'how many times you want to cum tonight?' she laughs and says 'one time is ok for me, two times is good, three times too much – hurting me.' so we agree to shoot for two – me thinking the worst is over. i didn't realize it would begin again right way.

suddenly the dizzying pain erupted once more. my vision blurred, well not really blurred, more like it went to static. bright, white static for a few seconds, and all i heard were screaming, high-pitched voices shouting something incoherent. i was vaguely aware of what was happening, and i was vaguely aware that, earlier, i had let go of my balls when she orgasmed, thinking the danger was over. i didn't realize it would materialize so quickly again and with not a shred of warning. so through the bright white light, the screaming, and the pain, i reached down and yanked my balls from beneath the pounder. as the pain dissipated, i was able to discern what the voices were screaming: “your balls, you dumb fuck! your balls!”

phew, survived it again. damn, she was like a machine, pounding away with such ferocity i could see why no man could make her cum from regular missionary position – you'd have to pound her like one of those street construction workers breaking up tarmac with the pneumatic pounder.

little kumbu was being used ruthlessly. she was literally using him like a dildo and he was being scraped against her insides like he was meaningless. you know, he's a sensitive little guy, and he doesn't like to be abused, at least not too often. and this was borderline abuse, i would say. the sensation was so unusual, it felt like thousands of ants were biting at my dick all at the same time. not good, yah?

i gritted my teeth, i twisted my head, i closed my eyes and i yearned for a better place. just when i thought it could not get any worse, she reaches down and starts to twist my nipples. aaaaaaaaaoooow. damn girl, that's just not right!

and before i could actually muster the shrill scream that was in my throat, she orgasmed and it was all so blissfully over. she apologized for finishing so quickly, and i told her, 'trust me, you do not have to apologize for finishing too quickly. maybe apologize for other things, but not that.' she didn't get it.

so little kumbu is a little scared at this point. i wasn't sure what to do, so i did what most people would do. i got what i wanted.

kumbu: you enjoy?
crazy *****: mmmmm.
kumbu: me no finish yet.
crazy *****: mmmmm
kumbu: me do you in ass, ok?
crazy *****: mmmmm

so i flipped her the fuck off of me (i am never letting her back on top of me again), and she falls off lazily. she is now sleepy from the double orgasm, which suits me fine. she falls onto her stomach and i mount her. i grab her ass cheeks with a little bit of venom in me, and i pull them apart for a good looksie. i see the flower bud, with an ever so slight amount of tuliping. hmm, i wonder if it really was three weeks since her last anal pounding. i ask her for gel, and she reaches into her purse and pops out a bottle of blue gel. i lube little kumbu up (although he was wet from being inside her), and then i drop a big glob of the stuff right into her butthole. i insert my finger into the asshole and rub the stuff around a little, being rougher than i normally would. she treated me like a fuck piece, i intend to do the same.

she is lying flat on the bed at this point, so i have to prop myself forward a little awkwardly, but it's ok – i'm going to fuck that ass, and fuck it hard, whether she makes it easy for me or not. she senses this awkwardness and pops her butt out a little, making for an easier entry. and little kumbu slips right in without a hint of difficulty. damn, this ain't the road less traveled. i insert about half way and then i start to feel her sphincter tighten up. so i slow down and start to thrust rhythmically. i thrust strong and deep, repeating, pulling out until the head almost pops past the sphincter, but not quite. i then thrust back in in a smooth, semi-forced motion, all the way until my hips hit her butt cheeks. and then repeat.

i think it must have lasted 10 strokes or so (perhaps that's being generous) and i popped an orgasm. to tell the truth, it was almost a relief to get that cum out of me so i could kick her the hell out of my room.

i came, and i was about to pull out when she reached around and held me, indicating i should stay inside her. hmm, that's odd. most girls want you out asap so they can shower, or at least get your boys away from their private parts. but she wanted me to stay inside her ass for a while, and she wanted us to talk. ah yes, primate bonding behavior.

so what do we talk about? well, she starts to tell me about her first lesbian experience. and then her second, and then her third. hmm, this girl is seriously weird. she has tried it all. i am listening quite avidly at this point about the stories of party sex, drugs, bondage, etc. wow. but all of that was not enough to wash away the memory of the ants eating little kumbu and the screaming voices in my head. so as soon as there was a lull in the conversation, i pulled out, showered and asked her to leave.

i paid her 2500baht. i know that was generous, but i figured she did give me some anal, even if it was accompanied by insects to the genitals and cbs (crushed ball syndrome). i figured the former was a way to please me, and the latter were not really intended to hurt me. i hope spider and scorpion had better nights than i did.

*guarantee not valid in las vegas, fkks, or with crazy fucking bitches who like to mutilate male genitals.

[QUOTE=Spamx]Yes, me too. I like this idea and I'm looking forward to hear anybody who can suggest a particular place or girl.[/QUOTE]


Same with me.Let me share your infos and participate in pleasure.
FV

I like to go out to the discos, as I find the quality of the FLer's is best there and the party girl types are usually a good time. Of course, in high season when packed with horny farangs, the hot ones are not only selective on price, but also on who they will go with (I've noticed the ones who travel in packs of hotties tend to go for the young 20 something guys).

Anyway, I will be back in Thailand soon and was wondering what the disco scene is like now post red shirt antics and the accompanying drop in farangs- coupled with it being low season for a serious 1-2 punch. Are the clubs still crowded with the girls still being selective as per above, or has the lack of tourists changed the game at all in our favour?

Also, from the general reports I've been reading here, it almost sounds like it is business as usual now. Is that the case, or has there been a change? A girl I know in BKK told me that 2 of her friends who have worked as FLer's for a couple of years are now working in go go bars to get a more steady income. Granted, this was right after the curfew ended, so they could have reverted back as things improved. Any observations?

[QUOTE=Bionicman]great story and about the kissing, read around and you will see that this matter has been recently commented: thai girls are not much used to DFK.[/QUOTE]Correct. It's cultural. They prefer touching. It is the rare TG who really enjoys keeping up with you DFK wise.

SunLover

WoW, I sure messed that up and I was just there two days ago. "Star of Light" NOT "Star of Love"!


[QUOTE=Daddy07]Hummm ... I've never been there, but thought the name was "Star Of Light."[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=DRRonin]A small round-up from me as well.

Mercury - 2nd floor to the right - felt like I was in a retirement home for old strippers. Ghastly. Unfortunately, I didn't notice till I ordered my beer - one sip and I was out to the merriment of my waitress. I was the only customer in there which should have given me a small clue.

Mandarin - 2nd floor to the right and up the stairs - not as strong as in previous trips but after Mercury it felt like I was among the human race again. Some nice girls in the bathing suit section and 3-4 cuties in the topless section.

Rainbow 1 - bottom floor to the right - there were loads of young girls on hand but they all feel so interchangable that no one really jumps out at you - and no one was going topless here which was a disappointment - not sure if this is customary or I was just there at a bad time.

Rainbow 3 - 2nd floor to the left - from 2 weeks ago - a real surprise to me - often has a couple cuties but this time nearly every girl was worth a look with some outstanding small cuties - and the cuter ones were going topless. Many fewer girls than the other 3 Rainbow bars but of a higher quality I thought.

The Freelance World - I am not sure if it is still the effects of the Red Shirts or just a continuance of a declining trend over the past few years - numbers and quality - but the freelancers have hit an all time low. I have come across so few new ones and the ones who are around are all getting up there in age. I know a lot of girls went home during the troubles but they should be back by now.

The Nana Parking Lot - an average night has 10-15 girls out there - most of which you have seen on many previous visits - the two sisters are a nice new addition though - not beauties but fun and friendly.

Gullivers - maybe up to 30 girls on most nights - most in their late 20's and tending to the large busty size.

Beer Garden - day time - you can get lucky and see an occasional decent one but again the vast majority are getting near what should be a mandatory retirement age for working girls and they should be paying rent for the seat they have occupied for years there. An average afternoon has 30-40 women. A couple girls have complained to me that business for them is terrible - the guys who come just want to drink and not boom boom - but considering the options that is understandable.

New Wave - Soi 7 - much fewer but same profile as the BG - and most of them are playing pool any way.

Thermae - the usual story - the Japanese rule the roost. During the troubles there were very few Japanese but the pretty girls still would not give me the time of day. One friend went to talk with one the other night and was waved away before he could even get out a "hello". Now there are a number of less good looking girls there - usually sitting on the right or in the middle but they are pretty much bottom of the barrel material - all the pretty ones stand to the left and "kinichiwa" all night long. But its not a bad place to just look. I took one girl who was an ex-NPL girl who I knew - on the way out her friends said something in Thai and she told me they asked her why she was going with a Farang - "jai dee" she replied.

Nana Liquid - my nights have not been as good as Kumbu's I guess - its all in the timing. But have been in there 3 times from 1am on - I don't like this new set up at all. Before it was a basic meet/meat market with easy access to the girls and easy lighting and sound to flirt with them. Much darker now, much much louder and it is broken up in such a way that there are little pockets of girls around the place. But even so the girls I have seen are really low market - I mean some of thm look like they stopped selling insects outside to come in for the free drink that the Nana hands out every evening on Soi 4. Have yet to see a real looker in the place. Many of them are just the retreads on Soi 4 coming in to get out of the rain and free drink.

Sukhumvit - the girls along lower Suk are an argument for cleaning up this city - a Blade Runner melange of fat Africans, aggressive lady boys and run down looking girls.

Btw - two working girl friends who I have known for a while both went in to the doctors for something else and found out they have TB - a coincidence I wonder or do a lot of these girls have it? Plan on being checked soon but not sure how long the incubation period is for it to show up. Fortunately, I didn't do anything with them but play pool - one has stopped working but the other one can't afford to.[/QUOTE]Great roundup! I will be in Thailand next month, but was planning on skipping BK, now I may have 2nd thoughts.

Interesting observations on Thermae. I was there two years ago and had no trouble getting the pick of the litter as far as chicks go. Took two real lookers home on separate occasions for LT. Both in their early 20s. They were maybe the 2nd and 3rd hottest hook ups of the trip. One of them didn't speak English but asked if I spoke Japanese (and I do not look Japanese by ANY stretch of the imagination.) I wonder if things have changed. Or perhaps I was just lucky?

[QUOTE]Sukhumvit - the girls along lower Suk are an argument for cleaning up this city - a Blade Runner melange of fat Africans, aggressive lady boys and run down looking girls.[/QUOTE]Excellent imagery! Enjoyed the rest of the report as well.

Kudos.

Bunky

ah but kumbu - she tried. She never heard of "the customer always comes first", eh?

Another excellent report Kumbu, but I shouldn´t have tried to read it while drinking coffee. I laughed so hard I suffered a coffee nose ejaculation.

Kumbu,

I really enjoyed the reports; however.

"Scooby Doo: Yabadabadoooooooooo"

Surely you realize you have integrated Fred Flintstone's battle cry with scooby doo. What I think you meant to say was:

Scooby Doo: Scooby-dooby-doo

Thanks!

star of light...star of love...ICEBERG, GOLDBERG...what's the difference??

Right you are Silom. Actually, I had not realized that - what an idiot I am, I need to brush up on my childhood cartoons. But upon consideration, I've decided to keep it as is. Call it artistic license. It somehow sounds better to my ear to have Scooby Doo saying Yabadabadoo. [QUOTE=Silom]
"Scooby Doo: Yabadabadoooooooooo"

Surely you realize you have integrated Fred Flintstone's battle cry with scooby doo. What I think you meant to say was:

Scooby Doo: Scooby-dooby-doo

Thanks![/QUOTE]

Ah yes, the coffee jizz. That is the highest of praise - thanks![QUOTE=David_33]Another excellent report Kumbu, but I shouldn´t have tried to read it while drinking coffee. I laughed so hard I suffered a coffee nose ejaculation.[/QUOTE]

Heloo there fellow mongers.

I will be headed to BKK on the second trip very soon.

This time however I would like to soend my time with white women. Russian or Uzbek women or the kind.

Can anynody tell me a specific place to get my hands on what I am looking for and then take them back to my hotel room? Please!

Thanks,

Tarzaan

in the morning, as i struggled with the gripes and the cramping, i was transported back into the first grade. i heard the song we all used to sing on such occasions. as it repeated in my head, i clenched my jaw, an almighty scowl across my face, and the words began to growl from my contorted mouth.

when you're sliding into first...
and you feel something burst...
diarrhea, diarrhea.

what had i eaten the night before? one of the girls at the office had brought me a 'special' barbecue chicken, maybe that was it? or maybe it was the khao pad kay i had on the way home? or maybe it was the terrible ball crushing i endured two nights earlier under the pounding brick house ass? whatever the cause, it was putting a serious cramper on my plans for tonight. i was planning on a road trip down to pattaya – my last one of this trip, and who knows how i could endure a 2.5 hour bus ride in this condition? and the road trip would be preceded by a pretty tough day at work – running back and forth to the toilet isn't the best way to conserve energy for the planned fucking frenzy in pattaya. interesting that i was worried about how the diarrhea would affect the road trip and work, but not in the the slightest bit worried about brown dribble from my ass as i plowed a thai lovely down in patts.

when it comes out of your bum...
like a bullet from a gun...
diarrhea, diarrhea

the timing of this in a sense sucks, but in a sense it's not too bad. i've gone a whole month of complete and utter debauchery without so much as a sniffle. so that is the good news. but now this, and the bad news is that it's when i'm coming in to the closing stretch. i am actually past the bend and i'm into the last 50 meters, but that damned kenyan is closing in on me, and i need a final kick to get me past the finish line. the finish line, by the way, is tuesday night – that is when i bid adieu to this wonderful country and this wonderful month-long experience. that is also when i will bid farewell to you, fellow isgers.

so as you might have predicted, i called the road trip off. i decided to stick around bkk for an extra night, then travel down to pattaya on friday night. i called old buzooms from the other night – the girl who stuck her fingers up my butt. she certainly couldn't do that tonight, or else she would not only get some choco-fingers, but she might open up the spigot, if you know what i mean. actually, i sent her an sms asking if she could come by after work, and she agreed.

she arrived promptly at the agreed hour (6pm), i mean literally to the minute. she was dressed in a purple one-piece dress.

i offered her a drink, and we got to chatting again, which lasted 20 minutes or so. during this time, i was feeling a little ass-challenged in that i was feeling like a bout of the brown dribbly might be on its way. that would not be pleasant, to be sure. but that was all suddenly shoved into the background when she reveals that she brought her old cell phone with her. this was an interesting development because the last time i saw her, she told me about how when she gave her old cell phone in for repair, it came back with a new memory card, and on it was a stash of someone's home-made porno movies. this was some american dude who shot all his sex scenes with his cell phone – hah! anyway, there was one movie that she said she masturbates to four to five times a week when she wakes up, and she brought the phone so i could watch it.

yowza. she showed it to me and ran off to shower. the movie was pretty cool – clearly amateurish, but pretty good. it was 9 minutes of over-the-top screaming by the girl, lots of action, boobs jiggling left and right, lots of action from a single camera angle. the guy starts out eating this girl's pussy as she whimpers 'oooh yeah, right there, more of that', etc. then he fingers her pussy during daty, then sex, then anal sex, then he pulls out and ejaculates all over the girls boobs. right, you can see where the night is heading, right? i figured this was the plan that she was asking me to execute, or else why would she have shown me the porno?

she comes out, i go in and shower, and upon returning, i find her on the couch reading a magazine. i gently coax her into the bedroom and start to wax poetic about how beautiful she is, what wonderful legs she has, what sexy eyes she has, blah blah blah. she falls for it (or at least plays along), and the towel comes off. yummy. her breasts are truly magnificent. they are large, firm, real, and perfectly shaped. the girl is a total face and body double for veronika zemanova, if you know who that is. so i worship at the alter of mammary for a while, kissing, nuzzling, and doing those large, lift/squeezes of her breasts (lots of fun). i then make my way down to daty. as i apply my tongue pressure, i am trying to emulate the guy in the video, but it isn't working. trying to do it to his pace is fucking up my own rhythm, so i give up on that after a few minutes and go back to my own way of doing things. this pays dividends pretty soon with a small, rather inconsequential orgasm. as inconsequential as it seemed, she was super-sensitive afterwards, so i had to pull back and let her relax.

we talked for a while, and then we showered together to try to get the juices flowing once more. when we got out, she said to me:
buzooms: you make me liquid, i want to make you liquid.
kumbu: whaaaaaa?
buzooms: you make me liquid, i want to make you liquid.
kumbu: i'm sorry, one more time?
buzooms: you make me liquid, i want to make you liquid.
kumbu: ...
buzooms: you...make...me...liquid...i...want...to...make...you...liquid.
kumbu: yes...it's...not...the...speed...of...what...you...are...saying, it is the particular combination of words you are using which is confusing me.

i thought 'ah fuck it', and i pushed her head down and pulled her ass up and started to tongue her pussy from behind. she did not fight it, and rather enjoyed it i must say. my goal really was to try to tongue her ass a little so as to gauge the viability of an assault on the rear-guard tonight. i had just had anal two nights earlier, but it seems it might be on the menu once more.

so i slowly move my tongue to that ribbon of flesh between the pussy and asshole, careful to watch for signs of objection – and none arrived. so i moved my tongue over to her asshole and gently peppered kisses around the hole (not on the hole itself). once again, no sign of objection. so in i went – tongue to asshole, just like the pervs like it. she did not object. i did this for a few minutes, and was sure to leave a whole lot of spit in the hole before i pulled back.

i slapped on my last trojan and she pulled out a bottle of lubricant – again, a blue bottle of durex lubricant – the same as the batshit girl two nights earlier. so i glob up little kumbu and i am about to stick it into her butt when she figures this out and she yelps her protest. i am a little surprised, but then i remember the video: the guy does the girl in missionary first, then doggie, then back to missionary, at which point he does anal. so i was fucking up the order of events. what a dufus i can be sometimes.

so i did as the script dictated. we did missionary for a while, then into doggie, which i had to fight hard to avoid coming. when we got back into missionary, i was relieved, and i put all my powers of seduction into her at that point. i worked hard, and very soon afterwards, i got my reward with a more sustained, measurably more intense orgasm. this time she was less sensitive afterwards, and she lifts up her hips, offering me the asshole. just like the script dictates. so i enter her slowly, and it is tough going. in that position – lying flat on the bed, hips lifted off the bed, the girl tends to tighten her muscles in her back so as to lift the hips up. this tends to tighten the asshole muscles too, and so entry was quite difficult. but i eventually got there, and i was able to pull off quite a few rhythmic strokes before i felt the orgasm arriving. before it got too close, i pulled out and breathed a moment to let the orgasm dissipate slightly. meanwhile, she flipped over onto all fours, and we got into the real animal sex act. i entered her from behind and ontop – i was half-squatting and kind of half-standing above her entering her ass from behind. this is a classic porn stance, and it is surprisingly hard on the legs. you have to keep yourself in that semi-crouched position, lifting up and down with the thigh muscles, which is a tough thing to do for a long time.

thankfully this was doggie style anal sex, and so i did not have to wait all that long before the orgasm began to arise. i was trying to judge the timing so i could pull out, rip off the condom and ejaculate onto her boobs, as per the video. i began to feel the orgasm, so i pulled out quickly. the problem was that i pulled out so quickly, the final little snag on the tight anal sphincter was enough to send me over the top. so by the time the condom was off and she had flipped over, my first shot was already out of the gun. and you all know the first shot is the power shot, the rest is basically just a dribble (given the constant sex i've endured over the last month or so). so the actual cum shot was not all that great, although i did get enough of my stuff onto her to get a good groan out of her. fun stuff. so yes, oscar, i finally creamed those tatas, just as you suggested in your pm to me.

we talked for a while afterwards. she was pleased that i executed her plan so well - she said she would remember it. i suggested that next time we should make our own version of the movie...wink-wink? she laughed and gave a nonresponse, so that's a negative. i told her about this one gogo girl from pattaya who has been stalking me, and she laughed at that (i'll post something on that soon, once things are resolved a little), and she told me about all her sex partners, her kik, her experiences at cm2 and spasso, etc. i then felt my sphincter tighten up trying to keep my bowels within me, so i quickly dismissed her. i faked a phone call (i pretended my phone was on buzz, answered it and told the phantom on the other end that i would 'get it done immediately.'). childish, i certainly admit, but diarrhea cannot be argued with. so she left and i crapped pathetically.

funny how before and after the sex, my bowels were in charge of me, but during sex, i did not even think about it. anyway, i am glad to report that the problem cleared up over night, and i went on to pattaya a day late. but i made up for that lost day with one of the most superb tantric experiences i have ever had. you shall read about it soon, my friends.

[QUOTE=D Cups]Liquid = lubricant. Got it.[/QUOTE]Actually, not sure about that. I think what she was trying to say was that I got her wet, and now it was time for me to ejaculate. Liquid = ejaculate. But I could be wrong - as you see, I did not have the patience to get a real explanation.

"What had I eaten the night before?"
"I poked my tongue into her asshole and murmered “mm-hmm”."

May have been the culprit.....the timing is right.

Damn it, you may be right. I thought about that too, and all I can say is that such a potential connection did not dissuade me from repeating this behavior on Friday and Saturday nights. Talk about obsessed.
[QUOTE=David_33]"What had I eaten the night before?"
"I poked my tongue into her asshole and murmered “mm-hmm”."

May have been the culprit.....the timing is right.[/QUOTE]

"that is when I bid adieu to this wonderful country and this wonderful month-long experience. That is also when I will bid farewell to you, fellow ISGers."

hope you're not stopping your reports....

fingers crossed for au revoir......

Thanks for your imput Kumbu....

V

Scooby also says "ROTS-A-RUCK" :)

[QUOTE=Kumbu]Actually, not sure about that. I think what she was trying to say was that I got her wet, and now it was time for me to ejaculate. Liquid = ejaculate. But I could be wrong - as you see, I did not have the patience to get a real explanation.[/QUOTE]
To me means liquid = wet = cum...:)
all happy now? I think Kumbu veeeery happy!

[QUOTE=Kumbu]When you're sliding into first.

And you feel something burst.

Diarrhea, diarrhea.

When it comes out of your bum.

Like a bullet from a gun.

Diarrhea, diarrhea[/QUOTE]People think it's funn.

But it's really dark and runny.

:P

Kumbu,

Why don't you give the names of the girls?

[QUOTE=Bionicman]To me means liquid = wet = cum...:)
all happy now? I think Kumbu veeeery happy![/QUOTE]

She wanted Kumbu's liquid. I think she was trying to say she did not want him to use his last Trojan!

I'm not sure if this should go on this thread, but here goes. I want to spend a week in Pattaya/ BKK and a week in Bali. Flying from San Francisco. I see China Airlines has a fare of $923 RT from San Fran to BKK. Oct 8 (the 1:30 am flight which I like.) and returning Oct 23rd. It is advertising this fare as a "sale" from June 16 to July 15th.

I figure I can fly RT FROM SFO into BKK and catch an Air Asia flight from BKK to Bali (looks like that RT on Air Asia is between $200-$250.

So, should I just book this now (at least the SFO to BKK)? Should I also book the Air Asia to Balu? Do the Air Asia flights sell out? I'd hate to find out I can't get a flight to Bali if I wait.

Also, any opinions on doing the 7 days first in Bali or in Pattaya/ BKK? Oh, I've been to Thailand 7 times, but it's my first trip to Bali. I know there isn't maybe a "right" answer here but I always like to hear from Members who have great ideas, opinions and experience.

Thanks!

Redfield, flights on air Asia to and from DPS BKK are not often full. Thing is, prices go up as your departure date approaches. It is also near impossible to buy your air Asia ticket online with a US credit card, unless you call them at their call center. so if you wait until you are in Asia and buy at an air Asia office, I have seen OW between BKK and DPS as high as 250 USD 5 to 7 days before departure.

My choice would be to book on china air via LAX, they fly newer planes with PTV, and better seats than SFO, But i would try to fly into DPS, buy a one way to BKK on air Asia, and fly the return portion to the USA from BKK. Of course, it might just be a lot more money, you would need to check. If that doesn't work, you can also try TG, they have had some good sales into BKK from other Asian countries recently.
just my 2 cents.

[QUOTE=1Ball]It is also near impossible to buy your air Asia ticket online with a US credit card[/QUOTE]

That may be a problem with your credit card. Be sure that it's not encumbered by any blocks on international transactions. I have bought AirAsia tickets several times with no problems.

[QUOTE=Etaoin2003]may be a problem with your credit card. Be sure that it's not encumbered by any blocks on international transactions. I have bought AirAsia tickets several times with no problems.[/QUOTE]
I can confirm this. I just bought BKK to Macau Air Asia ticket over the internet. No problem.

I also bought a Macau to AC Cebu Pacific ticket with no problem, but when I then tried to buy a 2nd ticket (roundtrip Cebu Pacific MNL to Puerto Princessa); the transaction did not go through. I contacted my credit card company and sure enough the 2nd purchase had been flagged by security. Once the CC company confirmed my identify, the purchase was processed without further problems.

Credit card companies sometimes flag legitimate purchases. If this happens to you either call them up and straighten things out or use a different card. There is a lot of fraud out there. I don’t mind experiencing a false positive once in a while as long as I am never held liable for any fraudulent transactions.
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[QUOTE=Redfield10]I'm not sure if this should go on this thread, but here goes. I want to spend a week in Pattaya/ BKK and a week in Bali. Flying from San Francisco. I see China Airlines has a fare of $923 RT from San Fran to BKK. Oct 8 (the 1:30 am flight which I like.) and returning Oct 23rd. It is advertising this fare as a "sale" from June 16 to July 15th.

I figure I can fly RT FROM SFO into BKK and catch an Air Asia flight from BKK to Bali (looks like that RT on Air Asia is between $200-$250.

So, should I just book this now (at least the SFO to BKK)? Should I also book the Air Asia to Balu? Do the Air Asia flights sell out? I'd hate to find out I can't get a flight to Bali if I wait.

Also, any opinions on doing the 7 days first in Bali or in Pattaya/ BKK? Oh, I've been to Thailand 7 times, but it's my first trip to Bali. I know there isn't maybe a "right" answer here but I always like to hear from Members who have great ideas, opinions and experience.

Thanks![/QUOTE]Redfield,

I am going to Bangkok in 2 week air fare from SFO to HKG for buisness on cathay pacific is 1680 USD and a side trip to BKK, even Thai air from LAX in jun and July is 1500 USD, travel agent told me high season and the world expo in China isthe reason, but fare will drop back to normal by end of Aug.

Fast Eddie 48

Good one. Looks like you played the same 1st grade song games I did. [QUOTE=Gwailo]People think it's funny,
But it's really dark and runny.[/QUOTE]

If anyone is planning to come you had better lower your expectations. Presently the level of choice is Bangkok is poor.

Its the low season and the girls are complaing over lack of visitors, and many have gone home to spend a few months at home and come back at year end.

So do not get your hopes up, Thailand presently is best avoided due to the strong baht and lack of good quality girls.

I met Kate or Katie accross Soi Nana by the twin ATMs. She provides amazing 3 hole service with CIM FOR 1000 Baht. Highly recommended but seemed glassy eyed so she might do drugs. Call her mobile phone for room service and stretch her!!!(086 708 4080)

[QUOTE=The Pro]If anyone is planning to come you had better lower your expectations. Presently the level of choice is Bangkok is poor...Its the low season and the girls are complaing over lack of visitors, and many have gone home to spend a few months at home and come back at year end...So do not get your hopes up, Thailand presently is best avoided due to the strong baht and lack of good quality girls.[/QUOTE]Best avoided? TAT cut your commission?

TP, with due respect to your self-proclaimed bottomless experience, I have to disagree with your "no go" proclamation. Sure, it's a lot quieter than usual, but that is a good thing in many ways if you know the town. Sure they complain, but they are always complaining about something. Sure, the ladies are heading home for visits, but most will come back sooner than later for money.

Right now, it is a great time to have fun, [i]and[/i] a good time to lay the groundwork for future nights of fun. For example, last night I bought a few rounds of tequila shots for three of my favorite go-go girls, then promptly [i]check binned[/i] and left. Basically, I got them warmed up for the next guy...lucky SOB. But, as things go here, they will remember our little drinking session ([i]nam soda[/i] for me), and I will have big fun some other night

Presently, I have so many nice, sweet, beautiful women that I can't keep up with it all. If I tire of one, it is easy to find another. Literally, only takes minutes and nary the slightest bit of effort to find a possible replacement.

The lovely sweetheart from a Soi 23 massage shop who spent last night with me did not complain about a thing. She was all smiles when I tucked her into her taxi this morning.

TP -- you need to find some new ladies. Or...
...just move on to Angeles City?

I have almost 6 h spare time at Bangkok airport waiting for my flight, at evening hours. Can I go to the city and try even one shot somewhere? Or is not worth? Not enough time, but might be possible, only I need to know where I could come down in BKK for short while and come back quickly before departure. Can anyone tell me?

No idea about transportation from/to airport in BKK how long it may last.

[QUOTE=The Pro]Thailand presently is best avoided due to the strong baht and lack of good quality girls.[/QUOTE]Yes, by all means stay away. It's unspeakably dreadful, a real nightmare.

Until recently, Bank of Ayuthaya did not charge me the 150 baht that all other banks have been doing for years. But now, even B of A is now charging this fee.

Anyone know of any other bank that does not charge the 150baht? By the time my home bank/CC company has placed their own charges plus a bad exchange rate etc, the 150 baht extra charge brings the cost of using an ATM to at least 4-5% on a 10,000 baht withdrawal!

By the way, I agree with The Pro. Please stay away from Thailand. That way there will be more for those, like me, who are prepared to stick around. While it is true that many girls have headed back to the villages as they normally do during the low season anyway, I still got my favourite girl at my favourite MP and picked up a real honey near Nana too.

There are plenty of girls available and even the cuties in Hua Hin are a little more hungry and less stand-offish than they used to be a couple of years ago.

ONLY one I am aware of that does not charge the 150 bt ripoff is Aeon but they are few and far between. And some reports have surfaced that, sometimes, they do not spit out your money but yet it is gone from your account. I've used the Aeon ATM in Paragon and the one at Tesco Udon Thani with no troubles.


[QUOTE=Simian]Until recently, Bank of Ayuthaya did not charge me the 150 baht that all other banks have been doing for years. But now, even B of A is now charging this fee.

Anyone know of any other bank that does not charge the 150baht? By the time my home bank/CC company has placed their own charges plus a bad exchange rate etc, the 150 baht extra charge brings the cost of using an ATM to at least 4-5% on a 10,000 baht withdrawal!

By the way, I agree with The Pro. Please stay away from Thailand. That way there will be more for those, like me, who are prepared to stick around. While it is true that many girls have headed back to the villages as they normally do during the low season anyway, I still got my favourite girl at my favourite MP and picked up a real honey near Nana too.

There are plenty of girls available and even the cuties in Hua Hin are a little more hungry and less stand-offish than they used to be a couple of years ago.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Simian]Until recently, Bank of Ayuthaya did not charge me the 150 baht that all other banks have been doing for years. But now, even B of A is now charging this fee.

Anyone know of any other bank that does not charge the 150baht? By the time my home bank/CC company has placed their own charges plus a bad exchange rate etc, the 150 baht extra charge brings the cost of using an ATM to at least 4-5% on a 10,000 baht withdrawal!.[/QUOTE]My bank in Malaysia has just informed me that I can withdraw from their branches in BKK ( plenty) for only RM 2 each.

This is good news !

[QUOTE=Simian]Anyone know of any other bank that does not charge the 150baht? By the time my home bank/CC company has placed their own charges plus a bad exchange rate etc, the 150 baht extra charge brings the cost of using an ATM to at least 4-5% on a 10,000 baht withdrawal![/QUOTE]


You need to get a bank back home that refunds foreign ATM fees and doesn't charge any of their own.

I use Schwab and they do this.

[QUOTE=Simian]Until recently, Bank of Ayuthaya did not charge me the 150 baht that all other banks have been doing for years. But now, even B of A is now charging this fee.

Anyone know of any other bank that does not charge the 150baht? By the time my home bank/CC company has placed their own charges plus a bad exchange rate etc, the 150 baht extra charge brings the cost of using an ATM to at least 4-5% on a 10,000 baht withdrawal![/QUOTE]

I was JUST going to ask this question again. As it is somewhat of an old topic.
Govt Savings Bank was not charging, now they are. AEON is the only one I currently know of, and true they can be hard to find. They appear to have chosen some unreliable hardware for the atm machines. I had a close call but did manage to pry my bills out.

Any other choices on this topic?

C4T

[QUOTE=Simian]Anyone know of any other bank that does not charge the 150baht?[/QUOTE]The fee was imposed by the Thai Banking Association, which allowes Thai banks to charge foreign bank account cardholders 150b per transaction.
So if you use Citibank or HSBC or another non-Thai bank ATM there will be no fee.


SunLover

ATM,

Since this topic has been raised again I will only say " maybe I'm the most unlucky guy in Thailand " and if you are looking to save 150 baht in Pattaya in particular personally don't even take a chance in using Aeon ATM, just to save 150 baht from the transaction.

Now I can't speak of Bangkok, but the ATM, particularly at Carrefour Pattaya stay away. I lost 17,000 baht in November, ( Pattaya North Tesco ) but it was disputed and resolved, then I lost 10,000 for good at Carrefour and reporting it to the Branch in North Pattaya Tesco, all the teller or representatives have given be the impression that this is a major problem with their ATM machines in which they the machines give you NOTHING but will remove the money from your checking. For those who live in Pattaya will attest that majority of the year the ATM at Carrefour has a out of service sign on the screen. Guess Why?

In my personaly case, when I disputed it to my bank in U.S. and they disputed it with Aeon Bank, they came back and told my bank it was a valid transaction. Since that time I have try to contact them in Bangkok at their HQ, they refuse to speak to me personally or provide me with any proof and have denied even if the transaction ever existed, then said they gave me the money! I have concluded maybe there is a language problem but their lack of customer service and the inability of a foreigner to do anything about or to make contact with someone to resolve and show them my proof has lead me to believe this is a dishonest bank and I rather just pay the 150 transaction to another bank at less I get money. I try to save 150 instead lost 10,000 baht.

I wish I was in Bangkok when they had the demontration in May I would have thrown a bomb at their HQ for all the shit and B.S. they have put me through trying to resolve the problem.

Stay away from Aeon is my opinion! I have written the U.S. Embassy, file a complaint with Visa and of course email Aeon world HQ in Japan of course no response! Next month I'm going to place signs in front of their machines throughout Pattaya!

LBM

I am sure your experiences and reporting on them (I remember reading previous posts you made on AEON) has helped others. It has me!! I use to use the one you mention in PTY but stopped after reading your problems. I am very selective in using AEON. Only at the Paragon basement, Khon Kaen Central Festival at their branch office and Tesco in UTH. Otherwise, I suck it up and pay the darn 150 bt fee.

[QUOTE=LittleBigMan]ATM,

Since this topic has been raised again I will only say " maybe I'm the most unlucky guy in Thailand " and if you are looking to save 150 baht in Pattaya in particular personally don't even take a chance in using Aeon ATM, just to save 150 baht from the transaction.

Now I can't speak of Bangkok, but the ATM, particularly at Carrefour Pattaya stay away.
SNIPPED
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sure thing sunlover... now IF we could only FIND a "non-Thai bank" ATM... :(

I got ripped off by a number of ATM's in India. Everything seemed to work but no cash.

If you hang onto your ATM receipt or make note of the transaction number on screen your bank will recompense you quickly. The next day in many cases.

Whenever you use an ATM hang onto the receipt until you can verify the transaction via your online bank account.

Sounds like silly advice but you see many people toss their receipt.

[QUOTE=Dinghy]... now IF we could only FIND a "non-Thai bank" ATM... :([/QUOTE]A useful link for those with GPS... [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_banks_in_Thailand#15_Foreign_Banks_with_a_Full_Branch_.28one_location.29_in_Bangkok[/url]

I am a cash man myself; although I did do one fee based ATM withdrawal in Bangkok last month during the throws of the crisis, when there were [i][b]zero[/b][/i] bank money changers open in the lower Suk area.

SunLover

I think the comment stands. Whilst Bangkok is ok for those that live here or are often here for business or whatever then yes, its ok cause you are not spending money or wasting time to get here.

My comment is for those planning their trip, saving money to go on it, using their holiday time to do it. They could be dissapointed.

You'd be far better off waiting until late Sept/Oct and come in just before the main high season starts.

[QUOTE=Fon Tok]Best avoided? TAT cut your commission?

TP, with due respect to your self-proclaimed bottomless experience, I have to disagree with your "no go" proclamation. Sure, it's a lot quieter than usual, but that is a good thing in many ways if you know the town. Sure they complain, but they are always complaining about something. Sure, the ladies are heading home for visits, but most will come back sooner than later for money.

Right now, it is a great time to have fun, [I]and[/I] a good time to lay the groundwork for future nights of fun. For example, last night I bought a few rounds of tequila shots for three of my favorite go-go girls, then promptly [I]check binned[/I] and left. Basically, I got them warmed up for the next guy. Lucky SOB. But, as things go here, they will remember our little drinking session ([I]nam soda[/I] for me), and I will have big fun some other night

Presently, I have so many nice, sweet, beautiful women that I can't keep up with it all. If I tire of one, it is easy to find another. Literally, only takes minutes and nary the slightest bit of effort to find a possible replacement.

The lovely sweetheart from a Soi 23 massage shop who spent last night with me did not complain about a thing. She was all smiles when I tucked her into her taxi this morning.

TP. You need to find some new ladies. Or.

Just move on to Angeles City?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Sunlover2]The fee was imposed by the Thai Banking Association, which allowes Thai banks to charge foreign bank account cardholders 150b per transaction.
So if you use Citibank or HSBC or another non-Thai bank ATM there will be no fee.


SunLover[/QUOTE]

I have seen HSBC - have you seen Citibank?
I'm not usually in Bangkok but I am right now. Are these atms in Bangkok?

C4T

[QUOTE=Crazy4Thai]I have seen HSBC - have you seen Citibank?

I'm not usually in Bangkok but I am right now. Are these atms in Bangkok?

C4T[/QUOTE]Tis website can help locate them altho you have to enter a street first so your need to know your main street names to find them.

[url]http://findmyciti.com/th/index.jsp[/url]

Fund at 399 sukhumvit near soi 27

[url]http://www.citibank.co.th/promotions/citibank/10/ic21-office-move/flash/index-en.html[/url]

[QUOTE=Crazy4Thai]I have seen HSBC - have you seen Citibank?
I'm not usually in Bangkok but I am right now. Are these atms in Bangkok?

C4T[/QUOTE]

I spoke with my citibank to see it I could transfer funds from a citbank account in the states, and was told that they are not linked and could not do it, and I would have to do a wire transfer for a charge of $30. :(
So please let us know if you can withdraw funds without a charge.

try this


[url]http://www.citibank.co.th/THGCB/APPS/portal/loadPopup.do?path=/global_htm/Location.htm[/url]

[QUOTE=Lord Farquard]I spoke with my citibank to see it I could transfer funds from a citbank account in the states, and was told that they are not linked and could not do it, and I would have to do a wire transfer for a charge of $30. :(
So please let us know if you can withdraw funds without a charge.

try this


[url]http://www.citibank.co.th/THGCB/APPS/portal/loadPopup.do?path=/global_htm/Location.htm[/url][/QUOTE]
No bank will move money without a charge
Why should they?
I can't understand why we all want it for free but, as normal, we want to earn money....
(I dont work for any bank or financial entity)

[QUOTE=Kumbu]There was something on the front page of one of the papers the other day, I forgot to keep it, but it said that the airport train link is now being offered free of charge as a trial in anticipation of its opening in August. So free rides (for a few hours in the morning, a few hours in the afternoon). The train goes from Phayathai station to the airport. The anticipated opening is in August, but who knows if it will materialize, but free rides on a working train is progress indeed. Ah, found a link to the article in The Nation:

[url]http://www.nationmultimedia.com/home/2010/06/01/business/SRT-wants-more-funds-for-Airport-Rail-Link-subsidi-30130597.html[/url]

When it does open, I think I will still opt for a taxi ride rather than the hassle of a train to Phayathai, connecting to the BTS into Nana.[/QUOTE]Does anyone know if this will be open by October?

I am going over for another trip and want to try it out.Any replies appreciated.

[QUOTE=Bionicman]No bank will move money without a charge
Why should they?
I can't understand why we all want it for free but, as normal, we want to earn money....
(I dont work for any bank or financial entity)[/QUOTE]

Beg to differ, citbank will transfer funds to any other US bank at no charge, but they will not transfer funds out of the country, even to another citibank account.

[QUOTE=Lord Farquard]Beg to differ, citbank will transfer funds to any other US bank at no charge, but they will not transfer funds out of the country, even to another citibank account.[/QUOTE]
I thought we were talking about transferring money from USA into Thailand...:)

I do not know about a bank ever being free but I move money via Vanguard with NO fee.

[QUOTE=Bionicman]No bank will move money without a charge
Why should they?
I can't understand why we all want it for free but, as normal, we want to earn money....
(I dont work for any bank or financial entity)[/QUOTE]

This ATM 150 baht charge for foreigner withdrawals has been covered several times before.
You're going to have to deal with it...or bring cash (no charge), or TCs (35 baht a check).

Anybody have any good reports about going out in Bangkok, finding ladies, and having fun?
Go-go bars, G-clubs, beer bars, FL'ers, etc. C'mon!

Maybe Jackson can start a Thai Banking thread for those of you who want to save 150 baht?

[QUOTE=Fon Tok]This ATM 150 baht charge for foreigner withdrawals has been covered several times before.

You're going to have to deal with it...or bring cash (no charge), or TCs (35 baht a check).[/QUOTE]Well Fon Tok, thanks for raining on our topic! yuk yuk

Sorry it got in the Bangkok thread - probably belongs in General.

It's not necessarily about "bringing cash". Some of us live here. And exchanging info here IS dealing with it, so I guess you'll just have to deal with that.

What are you, some kind of moderator?

[QUOTE=Mr Enforcer]Does anyone know if this will be open by October?

I am going over for another trip and want to try it out.Any replies appreciated.[/QUOTE]
It is currently running on a trial basis but only a few hours in the morning and evening. It is supposed to go throughout the day on a fee paying basis in early august. Apparently there will be an express version and a non-express version - the former will get you to Nana station in about 30 minutes, allegedly.

Guys who are in Thaland now, what would you say about the freelance scene (streetwalkers, Beergarten in BKK, Beach Rd in Pattaya etc type of thing) in these days? Enough good looking girls, or is it somewhat dead?

[QUOTE=Fon Tok]This ATM 150 baht charge for foreigner withdrawals has been covered several times before.
You're going to have to deal with it...or bring cash (no charge), or TCs (35 baht a check).

Anybody have any good reports about going out in Bangkok, finding ladies, and having fun?
Go-go bars, G-clubs, beer bars, FL'ers, etc. C'mon!

Maybe Jackson can start a Thai Banking thread for those of you who want to save 150 baht?[/QUOTE]

Fon Tok,

No disrespect but you're right that we have to deal with it! but like so many topics on or off they get recycle again and again! But technically ATM'S, are located throughout Bangkok, they dispense money to anyone in Bangkok that has to access money! When the ATM does it job properly one can have the fun they are seeking so they can give us reports about going out in Bangkok, finding ladies and having fun in Bangkok, Go-go bars, G-Clubs, beer bars, Fl'ers, etc...throughout Bangkok. C'mon we all have gotten off track from time to time... if there is one person that can stay on topic every single time they would be contrue a Saint and shouldn't be on this site.

It's impossible task so we all need to deal with it as you say... look at the one Thread regarding I believe "Announcements" NO QUESTIONS OR ANSWERS" that was suggested to Jackson to create and read through it and you will see nothing but Announcement that requires questions or answers.

You are suggesting the impossible but thanks for the input...does eating, shopping and sightseeing tours etc... belong? Does the fighting between the red and yellow? it goes on and on... when is it enough or not enough who is the judge? those who have tried is responsible for all the dead and useless thread that now languish. Just my 2 cents or baht gotten from a ATM from Bangkok? " NO MONEY NO HONEY "


LBM

[QUOTE=Crazy4Thai]Well Fon Tok, thanks for raining on our topic! yuk yuk
Sorry it got in the Bangkok thread - probably belongs in General.
It's not necessarily about "bringing cash". Some of us live here. And exchanging info here IS dealing with it, so I guess you'll just have to deal with that.
What are you, some kind of moderator?[/QUOTE]No moderator. I live in Bangkok. I pay the 150 baht when I withdraw cash from ATMs (my limit 19,500 baht -- so the TH fee is less than 1%). I also get cash when I am back at home base, and then I go to Super Rich Exchange. Such is life. A long string of comments about paying $5us to get money out of a machine...I didn't like it either when they first started a year ago!

So [i]Crazy4Thai,[/i] what have you done lately in Bangkok for fun? Have any mongering stories with tips for the rest of us? That's what this forum is about, right?

[QUOTE=LittleBigMan]Fon Tok, No disrespect but you're right that we have to deal with it! but like so many topics on or off they get recycle again and again![/QUOTE]I enjoy reading what my fellow ISGers are doing for fun. I've followed up on a lot of good tips from this forum. Too much about the daily [i]minutia[/i] of navigating life in Thailand is boring.

[QUOTE=Fon Tok]No moderator. I live in Bangkok. I pay the 150 baht when I withdraw cash from ATMs (my limit 19,500 baht -- so the TH fee is less than 1%). I also get cash when I am back at home base, and then I go to Super Rich Exchange. Such is life. A long string of comments from a bunch of whiners about $5us...

So [i]Crazy4Thai,[/i] what have you done lately in Bangkok for fun? Have any mongering stories? That's what this forum is about, right?

LBM, I know this is your favorite topic ever since that ATM took your money.
So, in a way it's like free therapy for you when the topic comes up, right?
No disrespect...;)[/QUOTE]

Fon Tok,

No disrespect, and didn't mean to drag it on... but personally if I can help one expat or a tourist and prevent this kind of B.S. from happening that would ruin anyone trip instead of using that money to get some pussy. Our age maybe not your's something like loosing 10,000 can be a real downer trying to complete the rest of your evening thinking this BJ is really costing me? I compare the lost to how many Go-Go girls, Beach Road, Soi 6, Freelancer I lost out of because of Aeon Bank?

Yes, it is free therapy and thanks for allowing me my input...fellas!

LBM

[QUOTE=LittleBigMan]Fon Tok, No disrespect, and didn't mean to drag it on... but personally if I can help one expat or a tourist and prevent this kind of B.S. from happening that would ruin anyone trip instead of using that money to get some pussy. Our age maybe not your's something like loosing 10,000 can be a real downer trying to complete the rest of your evening thinking this BJ is really costing me? I compare the lost to how many Go-Go girls, Beach Road, Soi 6, Freelancer I lost out of because of Aeon Bank? Yes, it is free therapy and thanks for allowing me my input...fellas! LBM[/QUOTE]Sorry I hit the "post" tab too quickly. I just returned from a few happy hour beers at the Champagne Club in Pattaya.
I edited my post after I re-read it. You were too fast for me!
BTW, one of my regular sweeties (not sure which one) stole my 2 baht gold chain recently, so I feel your pain about a big loss.
Hide your gold in a safe guys!
[i]chok dee![/i]

[QUOTE=Simian]It is currently running on a trial basis but only a few hours in the morning and evening. It is supposed to go throughout the day on a fee paying basis in early august. Apparently there will be an express version and a non-express version - the former will get you to Nana station in about 30 minutes, allegedly.[/QUOTE]

I read that there is an express to Makkasan (MRT) that will be 15 minutes and a local to Phaya Thai that will take 27 minutes. Not sure if this is correct, just an article I read awhile ago. Check the general info thread, it is being discussed there as well.

Sorry, Fon Tok! :)

[QUOTE=Fon Tok]Sorry I hit the "post" tab too quickly. I just returned from a few happy hour beers at the Champagne Club in Pattaya.
I edited my post after I re-read it. You were too fast for me!
BTW, one of my regular sweeties (not sure which one) stole my 2 baht gold chain recently, so I feel your pain about a big loss.
Hide your gold in a safe guys!
[i]chok dee![/i][/QUOTE]


No problem, but the only gold I have left is what I carry between my 2 legs and I have to pay for others to see it!

LBM

[QUOTE=Simian]Apparently there will be an express version and a non-express version - the former will get you to Nana station in about 30 minutes, allegedly.[/QUOTE]According to the article "The train will run non-stop between Phya Thai Station and Suvarnabhumi Airport." That means two different travel segments to lower Suk. Between lugging your gear up and down the station stairs and the waiting for the train/BTS I can't see the big advantage; other than it being somewhat time certain, and maybe a little cheaper.

SunLover

[QUOTE=Alxxx]Guys who are in Thaland now, what would you say about the freelance scene (streetwalkers, Beergarten in BKK, Beach Rd in Pattaya etc type of thing) in these days? Enough good looking girls, or is it somewhat dead?[/QUOTE]

Still plenty about in Bkk, but with even more Africans and Ladyboy FL's.

[QUOTE=Alxxx]Guys who are in Thaland now, what would you say about the freelance scene (streetwalkers, Beergarten in BKK, Beach Rd in Pattaya etc type of thing) in these days? Enough good looking girls, or is it somewhat dead?[/QUOTE]
Plenty of freelance girls in the carpark area of Nana hotel now. You don't even have to wait for chucking out time - they seem to start gathering at about 10pm or even earlier.

There are also girls to be found along Sukhumvit, from Soi 3 onwards. Many pretend to be waiting at the bus stop there. I have even seen them there during the day, even a couple of African ones too.

You may well find that these freelancers are fairly new to the game or are on the game more often than before due to the fall in the economy. I could not help noticing that I was getting to meet more ex-factory girls who were turning their hands to a bit of freelancing.

According to everyone else it's impossible to find a good freelancer in LOS these days because of the off season.;

I can't wait for the bargains when I come back.

Hell, I thought I got bargains during the high season!

[QUOTE=Simian]Plenty of freelance girls in the carpark area of Nana hotel now. You don't even have to wait for chucking out time - they seem to start gathering at about 10pm or even earlier.

There are also girls to be found along Sukhumvit, from Soi 3 onwards. Many pretend to be waiting at the bus stop there. I have even seen them there during the day, even a couple of African ones too.

You may well find that these freelancers are fairly new to the game or are on the game more often than before due to the fall in the economy. I could not help noticing that I was getting to meet more ex-factory girls who were turning their hands to a bit of freelancing.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=LittleBigMan]Fon Tok,

No disrespect but you're right that we have to deal with it! but like so many topics on or off they get recycle again and again! But technically ATM'S, are located throughout Bangkok, they dispense money to anyone in Bangkok that has to access money! When the ATM does it job properly one can have the fun they are seeking so they can give us reports about going out in Bangkok, finding ladies and having fun in Bangkok, Go-go bars, G-Clubs, beer bars, Fl'ers, etc...throughout Bangkok. C'mon we all have gotten off track from time to time... if there is one person that can stay on topic every single time they would be contrue a Saint and shouldn't be on this site.

It's impossible task so we all need to deal with it as you say... look at the one Thread regarding I believe "Announcements" NO QUESTIONS OR ANSWERS" that was suggested to Jackson to create and read through it and you will see nothing but Announcement that requires questions or answers.

You are suggesting the impossible but thanks for the input...does eating, shopping and sightseeing tours etc... belong? Does the fighting between the red and yellow? it goes on and on... when is it enough or not enough who is the judge? those who have tried is responsible for all the dead and useless thread that now languish. Just my 2 cents or baht gotten from a ATM from Bangkok? " NO MONEY NO HONEY "


LBM[/QUOTE]
...to follow Fon Tok's suggestion. It is very well done in some other forums,.
Reason that it is not done in ISG is that it is a commercial for profit forum, run by one single person who obvioulsy cannot moderate all posts.. In other fora, moderating different threads is delegated to voluntary members. If Jackson was to choose one or 2 dedicated members in key locations, and give them moderating rights for their threads, it would be easy to create new threads and make info clearer for all.
Never mind, ISG is still good enough, and I thank all contributors,..I just skip all no P4P posts and that's all...

[QUOTE=Simian]Plenty of freelance girls in the carpark area of Nana hotel now. You don't even have to wait for chucking out time - they seem to start gathering at about 10pm or even earlier.

You may well find that these freelancers are fairly new to the game or are on the game more often than before due to the fall in the economy. I could not help noticing that I was getting to meet more ex-factory girls who were turning their hands to a bit of freelancing.[/QUOTE]Agreed Simian on the NPL. Some true freelance ladies without long P4P pedigrees can be had. Saturday night is best; Friday night is next. I took an NPL lady last trip who said she worked in a toy factory weekends and holidays, and needed some extra money. She gave me one of the most memorable bj's of my life. She was extremely focused; and I [i]literally[/i] could not get her to stop. After about 45 minutes of full on sucking (no joke) I realised that she is doing it [u][b][i]for her own[/u][/i][/b] pleasure.

Agreed you don't have to wait until the wee hours to find talent, and if the selection is not to your liking just wait a while and check again as it is always changing. I normally stay at the NH so this is a simple process.

One last thing - have your LB radar engaged.

SunLover

All information is good.

The other forums are crap, and I mean really crap, absolutely useless and you have Hitler wannabe "voluntary" moderators who are complete c*nts. I can name and shame "joecoolfrog" on one certain forum who is a two faced c*nt of the highest order.

ISG is the best all round forum for p4p and well done for Jackson for making it this way!

[QUOTE=Dreams]. To follow Fon Tok's suggestion. It is very well done in some other forums,.

Reason that it is not done in ISG is that it is a commercial for profit forum, run by one single person who obvioulsy cannot moderate all posts. In other fora, moderating different threads is delegated to voluntary members. If Jackson was to choose one or 2 dedicated members in key locations, and give them moderating rights for their threads, it would be easy to create new threads and make info clearer for all.

Never mind, ISG is still good enough, and I thank all contributors,. I just skip all no P4P posts and that's all.[/QUOTE]

My first night I decided to spend some time at nana entertainment plaza.

After reading a lot about rainbow 4 I walked straight inside it.

There are a lot of good looking girls, some of them even topless dancing on stage.

I think this place is a good start to get some appetite.

I didn't want to take out a girl, because it was too early, I just spend 2 ladydrinks and touched a little bit.

My next destination was carousell. I could read many things about the bar, and I've to say: GREAT.

A waitress welcomed me, and lead me to a place. Her looking was 5-6 of a scale till 10 and she was very funny. I said, to her lets chat some more. The carousell has 2 stages. On one stage there are only girs dancing, on the other stage they perform shows. The waitress led me to this stage. To be short: I could see a lesbian show, a smoking pussy and a ping pong ball pussy Very nice.

Since I felt the chemics between the waitress and me is good, I asked her for LT. Barfine was 600, LT for me: 2000. Good Deal!

She was happy to get barfined. She didn't work so long time there, and she didn't think she looks so beautiful.

Her happyness I could feel later in the bed, too. Best GFE. After kissing, I got a good blowjob. Then I had to satisfy her. Extreme pussylicking, pussy fingering, licking her ass, then she led me up again to her tits, sucking them, bite the nipples. Then she sat on my face, while she had fun with my best thing. I absolutly wanted to fuck her then, but still I couldn't- she wanted to do it slowly. Just a few times stick it inside then again lick pussy, kiss pussy. I died alread because of too much blood in my best part. But she really knows what she wants.

Then finally I could start fucking her. We did it in various positions. This first act lasted alread one hour until I finished. Then I absolutely needed a break. Had a beer with her, then we started to have fun again.

Same start like before. She went on her knees, pushed her ass into my face and moved it up and down. Great. Later she sat on me, and she looked how my dick is fucking her pussy. Suddenly she raised her ass more. My dick was outside again. Her ass was 40. Cm and higher. Then she moved her bottom down so quickly, like a falling stone. I felt how my dick entered her tight pussy rapidly, so great feeling, but somehow scary, because if it misses, little hallodri will feel big pain.

She did this 3. 4 times. I couldn't hold back and came.

The 3rd time we did it in the morning.

Overall experience: 8 from 10. If she would do anal. It might be 10/10.

More information about her: name is Kieng (or something like this), 27years old, has a sister working as waitress in the same bar.

The second night, after enjoying soccer I went to rainbow2. Some of the dancers where nude. Nice to look.

Later I contacted one girl. Her name is rose, and she is 27. Again.

Medium sized bust, good to hold, nice attitude. In rainbow 2 there are a lot of japanese and actualy the girls prefer them. She told me, japanese seek mostly for younger girls, and thats why she is looking more for caucasians.

We had a nice time, so I barfined her and aked for LT

Barfine 600, L: 3000.

Her looking: 7-8/10

Sex was nothing special to mention. Not like the first night. But anyway willing to do it several times.

Overall experience: 5/10

Tonights plan: Nana liquid disco, before some bar with live music.

Still on my list: take 2 girls in the room, have fun in eden club, get a massage at annies. And also looking for a preg chick.

[QUOTE=Dreams]...to follow Fon Tok's suggestion. It is very well done in some other forums,.
Reason that it is not done in ISG is that it is a commercial for profit forum, run by one single person who obvioulsy cannot moderate all posts.. In other fora, moderating different threads is delegated to voluntary members. If Jackson was to choose one or 2 dedicated members in key locations, and give them moderating rights for their threads, it would be easy to create new threads and make info clearer for all.
Never mind, ISG is still good enough, and I thank all contributors,..I just skip all no P4P posts and that's all...[/QUOTE]


I agree with you, just like you said! I was talking about ISG and not comparing it with other forums. If someone wants it to be perfect ISG isn't the place for them and it shouldn't matter who sponsors it or who runs it! Everyone needs to decide to be where they want to be and I have been here a long time and heard it before but when it comes to ISG, I stick to my opinion that it is impossible.

LBM

Are the most attractive bargirls more likely to work all out during the high season and make as much money as they can, and then stop working during the low seasons and accept a sponsorship (or three) to last them through the rainy season, which they then drop once the tourist season picks back up again?

That seems like it would be the best strategy.

my last experience about fls in nana area:
- beergarden has reached the bottom level: only old (mainly ugly) girls there,
- thermae has pretty (and expensive 2000 st/4000 lt) girls, but they only look at japanese atms, the ones who are looking at farangs are not so pretty (but are probably less expensive),
- not so many (and not so pretty/young either) girls in music pubs (ie nana liquid, and the one in 7/2, i forgot the name)
- surprisingly enough, a few pretty girls in the street and at nana's parking lot. the single 1000 bath bill rules there. be careful, a few of them seem to be **** and some ladyboys are very pretty and can be very misleading (well, if you are lucky you may even pick-up an **** ladyboy, ah!ah!).

it may change according to the days in the week (i.e. i have not been to biergarden during the week-end)

[QUOTE=Evianist]Are the most attractive bargirls more likely to work all out during the high season and make as much money as they can, and then stop working during the low seasons and accept a sponsorship (or three) to last them through the rainy season, which they then drop once the tourist season picks back up again?

That seems like it would be the best strategy.[/QUOTE]

They accept sponsorships anytime (how many girls did I fuck who had a sponsor, I can't remember) and never drop them as long as they send money!

[QUOTE=El Frances]They accept sponsorships anytime (how many girls did I fuck who had a sponsor, I can't remember) and never drop them as long as they send money![/QUOTE]


Yes but there are active sponsors and passive sponsors, with the active variety requiring frequent phonecalls at night to ensure the girl isn't back at the bar.

I went to Dollhouse in Soi Cowboy the other night because I kind of like the atmosphere there and to watch the game.

As soon as I sat down, a imho quite pretty girl, Number 21 came to my seat and latched herself into me. Since I was in a very good and generous mood, I paid her and her friends a few lady drinks and we had a generally good time as she was quite charming and good looking. At the end of the game, and after paying over 2200 bath in drinks, I bar-fined her and it turned to be out a real disaster. First of of all she announced that she did only short-times (ok, I should have asked but was a bit drunk at that point), then in the room she didn't want to shower together and when she finally came out of the shower, she told me : "Sorry tilac, my period just started, can not boum boum". THis was of course a major let-down but being the gentleman that I am, I told her: " ok tilac, I understand, this can happen, just give me a nice BJ", to which she replied: " I never do".

At that point the whole night was ruined for me so I just told her to get dressed and go home and I even gave her 100 baht for her taxy. She then started to complain that 100 bath was not enough. At that point I told her very firmly to leave, which she did. So basically, I wasted around 3000 baht for nothing.

Unfortunately I had to fly somewhere else the other morning otherwise I would have gone back to Dollhouse to complain even if I doubt that that would have helped much.

Morale of the story: No good deed ever goes unpunished and stay the hell away from Dollhouse and in particular number 21.

Ah Spider, generous soul that you are, you got burned. I suppose we could see that coming, the state that Dollhouse seems to be in these days. You, Scorpion and I went there two weeks ago and I got the same vibe from the place - hustling seems to be the name of the game.

I have had much the same experience - thinking that dropping money on drinks actually has an effect on the girl. But recently a girl told me the following:

Having a customer drop cash on drinks builds a particular girl's image up with her friends at the bar, so it is good for her social standing. But once you get into the bedroom, her friends are not there to watch. So she can do whatever the hell she wants, and her social standing will be left completely intact.

Furthermore, a customer buying lots of drinks gets her in very good with mama san. Mama san starts to be a little less stringent with her (she can, for example, turn up to work half an hour late without a penalty), she starts to treat her more nicely, etc. But once again, when you are in the bedroom, mama san will never see what actually happened.

So the girl was not in the mood, and she just didn't want to service you. In my opinion, you were more than generous with the 100B taxi money. So yes, (i) stay away from Dollhouse, and (ii) be careful with who you buy drinks for.

[QUOTE=Spider916]I went to Dollhouse in Soi Cowboy the other night because I kind of like the atmosphere there and to watch the game.

As soon as I sat down, a imho quite pretty girl, Number 21 came to my seat and latched herself into me. Since I was in a very good and generous mood, I paid her and her friends a few lady drinks and we had a generally good time as she was quite charming and good looking. At the end of the game, and after paying over 2200 bath in drinks, I bar-fined her and it turned to be out a real disaster. First of of all she announced that she did only short-times (ok, I should have asked but was a bit drunk at that point), then in the room she didn't want to shower together and when she finally came out of the shower, she told me : "Sorry tilac, my period just started, can not boum boum". THis was of course a major let-down but being the gentleman that I am, I told her: " ok tilac, I understand, this can happen, just give me a nice BJ", to which she replied: " I never do".

At that point the whole night was ruined for me so I just told her to get dressed and go home and I even gave her 100 baht for her taxy. She then started to complain that 100 bath was not enough. At that point I told her very firmly to leave, which she did. So basically, I wasted around 3000 baht for nothing.

Unfortunately I had to fly somewhere else the other morning otherwise I would have gone back to Dollhouse to complain even if I doubt that that would have helped much.

Morale of the story: No good deed ever goes unpunished and stay the hell away from Dollhouse and in particular number 21.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Spider916]I went to Dollhouse in Soi Cowboy the other night because I kind of like the atmosphere there and to watch the game.

As soon as I sat down, a imho quite pretty girl, Number 21 came to my seat and latched herself into me. etc....[/QUOTE]

It happened to me once in another Gogo (the girl told me in my room that she had periods). I was sure that the girl knew it before as it suddenly struck me that the girl went with me without talking price. I rushed back with her to the gogo bar before closing time to get my barfine back. The manager gave my money back without any discussion. I guess he perfectly knew that the girls regularly do this trick to customers. Dollhouse is probably not worse on this respect than other gogos.
Did the girl talk price with you before you barfine her? It may be a clue...

PS If I have to leave Thailand soon, I never tell the girls until my last fuck is finished (Oh I forgot to tell you, I leave tomorrow!)

[QUOTE=Evianist]Yes but there are active sponsors and passive sponsors, with the active variety requiring frequent phonecalls at night to ensure the girl isn't back at the bar.[/QUOTE]

Ah! How many time did I see them rush to the balcony or the bathroom because a BF was calling them! Nice memories of Thailand...

[QUOTE=Spider916] I bar-fined her and it turned to be out a real disaster. First of of all she announced that she did only short-times (ok, I should have asked but was a bit drunk at that point), then in the room she didn't want to shower together and when she finally came out of the shower,[/QUOTE]
It's best to negotiate everything up front before you bar fine a girl. If you have certain things you really like, like taking showers together, make sure she agrees to this before.

I hear so many guys tell me about their disappointments with working girls, only to find out that they didn't negotiate everything upfront.

Think of it like buying a computer, or anything, in a store. What questions do you ask? Does this computer come with a mouse, webcam, etc. Does it have a warranty. Same thing with pussy. You're buying it, it ain't free. It's not like you're in a bar and you meet a random chick who wants a one night stand. You obviously don't ask these questions. You just go along for the ride and see what happens.

Ask everything up front and get her to agree on certain things you want. This will ensure that you get value for your money and you leave a happy camper.

Also, it's best to wrap the questions into a conversation so it doesn't seem like an interrogation. Be smart and you'll increase your winnings in LOS.

[quote=el frances]my last experience about fls in nana area:

- beergarden has reached the bottom level: only old (mainly ugly) girls there,

- thermae has pretty (and expensive 2000 st/4000 lt) girls, but they only look at japanese atms, the ones who are looking at farangs are not so pretty (but are probably less expensive),

- not so many (and not so pretty/young either) girls in music pubs (ie nana liquid, and the one in 7/2, i forgot the name)

- surprisingly enough, a few pretty girls in the street and at nana's parking lot. the single 1000 bath bill rules there. be careful, a few of them seem to be **** and some ladyboys are very pretty and can be very misleading (well, if you are lucky you may even pick-up an **** ladyboy, ah! ah!).

it may change according to the days in the week (i. e. i have not been to biergarden during the week-end)[/quote]just to add. my experience is that beergarden is okay during week when a lot of preety normal job girls come there in the evening. may be on weekends they stay home.

Always a good report when you identify the bar and the girl (in this case by number).

Thank you.

[QUOTE=Spider916]I went to Dollhouse in Soi Cowboy the other night because I kind of like the atmosphere there and to watch the game.

As soon as I sat down, a imho quite pretty girl, Number 21 came to my seat and latched herself into me. Since I was in a very good and generous mood, I paid her and her friends a few lady drinks and we had a generally good time as she was quite charming and good looking. At the end of the game, and after paying over 2200 bath in drinks, I bar-fined her and it turned to be out a real disaster. First of of all she announced that she did only short-times (ok, I should have asked but was a bit drunk at that point), then in the room she didn't want to shower together and when she finally came out of the shower, she told me : "Sorry tilac, my period just started, can not boum boum". THis was of course a major let-down but being the gentleman that I am, I told her: " ok tilac, I understand, this can happen, just give me a nice BJ", to which she replied: " I never do".

At that point the whole night was ruined for me so I just told her to get dressed and go home and I even gave her 100 baht for her taxy. She then started to complain that 100 bath was not enough. At that point I told her very firmly to leave, which she did. So basically, I wasted around 3000 baht for nothing.

Unfortunately I had to fly somewhere else the other morning otherwise I would have gone back to Dollhouse to complain even if I doubt that that would have helped much.

Morale of the story: No good deed ever goes unpunished and stay the hell away from Dollhouse and in particular number 21.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Spider916]At the end of the game, and after paying over 2200 bath in drinks, I bar-fined her and it turned to be out a real disaster. [/QUOTE]

Others might disagree, but if you drop 2200 on drinks you're putting a big fat target on your chest.

[QUOTE=El Frances]Ah! How many time did I see them rush to the balcony or the bathroom because a BF was calling them! Nice memories of Thailand...[/QUOTE]

I don't remember where I read it, probably ISG, but there are some guys who have cellphone blockers and they turn them on when the girl is in the shower or not looking. No problems about them getting phone calls and doing a runner! Gotta love it!

a good cell blocker costs WAY too much to carry around. it's a specific frequency range jammer (a transmitter).

[quote=evianist]others might disagree, but if you drop 2200 on drinks you're putting a big fat target on your chest.[/quote]yes and no. think of it as a quick way of priming the party pump. depending on the prices, lady drinks add up fast. three girls, two or three drinks...[i]satang[/i] bye bye! you'll get a lot of attention, that's for sure! on a few occasions, i've had three (or more) women practically [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] me in a corner booth in situations like this. it's a good way of culling out the shy ones from the nasty ones.

often, if you spend a little money in a club and get to know the mamasans a little bit, you can have the pick of the litter...[i]right off the bus from issan![/i]
but this is probably not realistic for guys just on a holiday tour. really depends on one's experience level.

unless you have an established set of clubs and ladies, partying in bangkok can be a crapshoot. some nights can go very, very well and some nights can turn to craps! imo, cheap charlies are more apt to experience the latter.

I'm going to be in Bangkok in several days. I keep reading in the Bangkok Post that most likely the emergency decree will still be in effect for Bangkok and other provinces. My question is this. What are the restrictions as it relates to curfew, etc. under the decree? Thanks.

Hi guys,

I'm fairly familiar with parts of BKK (ie. the various MPs, Cowboy, Nana, etc), but was doing some research on interesting new places for my upcoming 2-4 July BKK trip (only have 1 friday late morning meeting, but told the gf that i have to play golf on Sat + have dinner on Sat night.. heh heh).

Anyway, here's the 3 new places that I've come across that I can't find much info on. If anyone has more info, that would be great. Otherwise, you guys can wait for my FR when I'm back!

These places appear to be affiliated somehow (links to all of them from the Place 1's website), and are all on Sukhumvit Soi 33.

Place 1 - Lounge Strawberry Farm ([url]http://stf-bkk.com/[/url])
Appears to be some kind of companion bar, site says "1 hour 620B (One girl can be chosen)"

Place 2 - Vanilla Sexy Cafe and Bar ([url]http://vanilla-bkk.com/[/url])
Again appears to be some kind of companion bar, site says "250b for 60mins with 1 drink entry fee. Hostess drinks 150b / 30mins." But then again, it says 1200b tip hostess. Interesting pic of what goes on inside? [url]http://vanilla-bkk.com/greeting.html[/url]

Place 3 - Nyan Nyan Massage ([url]http://nyan2-bkk.com/[/url])
Price is 1h - 2,100bht, 1.5h - 2,200bht, 2hr - 2,300bht. Also mentions something about a 'pussy massage'

The reason why I'm asking is because the girls shown on the sites all look quite cute, and I figured it would be an interesting switch from my usual daytime haunts of Snow White, Mango, etc. Am particularly interested in the Nyan Nyan place as I'm looking for an Akane replacement. Akane is awesome, but after having gone >10 times, it's starting to get a little repetitive!

Ok so I haven't done it but there always seems to be people who are looking for new spots.

I live out past Chatuchak, whenever I take a taxi home from Suk area at night I drive right along the bts line. Just past Mo Chit station on the left hand side (side that the park is on) there's a good 1/2km stretch of road with various bus stops. There are always FL sprinkled along the side walk hanging out. 1/2 dressed in short dress type things, 1/2 in jeans or shorts. From what I can tell they all look pretty slim and good looking from what I can tell. My thai isn't up to snuff yet and never pulled any but there you go, something for you guys to try.

Also another half a$$ TR I can add is go to Nana during the 9pm World cup games. The bars are empty and the stages packed with girls. You know when the game is over because hordes of guys start piling in. After 2 stage changes the herd of girls has been thinned by 1/2.

Cheers

[QUOTE=Dinghy]a good cell blocker costs WAY too much to carry around. it's a specific frequency range jammer (a transmitter).[/QUOTE]A mini quad blocker for CDMA/GSM/DCS/PHS/3G costs about $50 USD in Hong Kong. They're about the size of a cell phone and they do work great. Nice little gadgets. (Have not seen them in BKK.)

Caveat emptor: Cell jammers are illegal in most countries.

[QUOTE=Barko]A mini quad blocker for CDMA/GSM/DCS/PHS/3G costs about $50 USD in Hong Kong. They're about the size of a cell phone and they do work great. Nice little gadgets. (Have not seen them in BKK.)

Caveat emptor: Cell jammers are illegal in most countries.[/QUOTE]

I even had problems with a normal scanner (seen and looking like a transreceiver by customs) entering Bahrain.
I did not want to raise issues and left in deposit at customs for the period of my stay and got it back on departure.
The scanner was detected by customs scanners before my checked in luggage arrived at the belt and was discreetly tagged for the custom officer at the exit (much to my surprise he said: "Sir, do you have a walkie talkie in your luggage?")
I then realized the bag had a little blue strap attached t the handle...)

Good idea Booey, not a bad gadget to have along, here is part of an ad:

"Sick of cell phone blabbermouths? Then jam them! cell phone jammers from Infostream. [url]www.infostream.biz[/url]

This is the latest Mini Portable Cell Phone Jammer in the world. If you really want to silence a dopey chatter box, you will need a cell phone jammer.
"I bought one, and I love it," said one cell phone jammer owner fed up with the din of dumb conversations and rock-and-roll ringtones. "I use it on the train all the time. I always zap the idiots who discuss what they want from the Chinese restaurant so that everyone can hear them. Why is that necessary? I can't throw the phones out the window, so this is the next best thing.""

This is a story of complete failure, so those looking for details of how much, where and when, look elsewhere. A summary of what is in this post:
- I lap up some drinks with Spider in soi Cowboy, hitting three of the same bars we did a couple of weeks ago.
- Having already arranged to meet a girl in my hotel, I bail early.
- The night takes a sour turn.
- I kick her out before even a tender breast is suckled.
- Ponder whether to go out again for a second run at things.

Last Monday was my penultimate night in Thailand, and I wanted to try something new. I wasn't sure what to do, but as luck would have it, I got an SMS from a girl from Rainbow 4 who I had never been with. This was the girl who Oscar and I spoke with several weeks earlier, but with whom I never hooked up. A week after that meeting, I went back looking for her, but didn't see her, and in the process hooked up with the girl I affectionately call Bazooms. It is generally not a good idea (for me at least) to take two girls from the same bar, so I had written this girl off (because of Bazooms). But sly Kumbu thought 'if I can hook up with her without having to go to Rainbow 4, then Bazooms need never know...”. My plan, therefore, was to tap this beauty in anonymity. We agreed via sms that she would drop by my hotel at around 8pm. I would pay her BF and ST fee directly to her.

Later that afternoon, I got an SMS from Spider asking if I wanted to grab a drink at Soi Cowboy on my penultimate night. How could I pass up such an opportunity? So I re-arranged my meeting with the Rainbow 4 girl for 11pm, and met up with Spider at 9pm in the upstairs lounge of Baccara. We chatted for a while about our week of mongering while looking over the talent on display. Not seeing anything to either of our fancies, we bailed and went to Tilac.

Once again, at Tilac, Spider was getting all the attention. Girl after girl was coming up to him and trying to get him to drop a BF, but he was restrained. At one point, a girl comes up to him and climbs all over him, rubbing her hands all over his nipples, nibbling on his ear, etc. Spider was cool – he didn't send off any signals of weakness, and he did not give her an inch. In fact, at one point, just to make it clear that he was here for fun, he tells his girl “Why don't you show Kumbu your sweet little ass?” Kumbu turns around eagerly...and rather than actually lifting her little dress, she just poked her ass out. Shy, I suppose. But she seemed like a shark to me, and Spider was wise not to partake.

Overall there weren't that many girls on display, and none that pleased Kumbu, not even on this penultimate night of sin. And so once again we bailed and headed on over to Shark. We both thought this place was rocking the last time we were there, so it was worth another look. This time it was a little less raucous, but still quite alive. The girls here were easily the prettiest of the three bars we had been in, and there were a couple that were definitely up to Kumbu's standards. I was beginning to regret having ordered delivery already, but what could I do?

There were two girls who caught my eye. The first was a thick-legged, fit and trim girl who had the face of an ox. Sorry to say that, but she really had a difficult face. But her body was simply superb. Her legs were exactly to Kumbu's specifications, and her backside looked marvelously bootylicious. But she was not giving me the vibe. She was looking across the room at the mirror, as usual, and occasionally at the group of Japanese gents in the middle of the bar. C'est la vie: Kumbu doesn't do it for her, either the clothing or the facial features, or the brown skin, or the age, or whatever. I know better than to push my luck when there is no chemistry.

The other girl was tall and slender, slightly darker skinned, and she too had nice legs (not quite to the same level as the oxen girl). But her face was delightfully cute. She had a sexy little smile, very naughty eyes, and hair that twisted and turned around her face, giving her a slight Medusa look. Plus, she was giving me the eyeballs. Whenever you get the eyeballs, you gotta at least take a look.

You may wonder why I was even looking if there was no chance of taking any of them tonight. Well, I still had one last night in Thailand, and I was on the lookout for the candidate who would be my going away gift. My flight was on Wed morning at 6am, so I had until 3am on Wed morning to play, which would be tough on the body, but damn if it wouldn't be fun.

After 10 minutes of watching and chatting with Spider, I decide it wasn't really worth the effort. The more I looked at her the more I thought that she was a shark (as the name of the bar suggests). She was doing the sly looks with several gents around the bar, and she just had that look about her which said 'I am a player.' Not Kumbu worthy.

I said my fond goodbyes to Spider at around 11pm, walked out and took a taxi back to my hotel. My girl was sitting patiently in the lobby, waiting for me to arrive. She looked delightful. She was dressed in a black mini skirt, with a white, skin tight halter top. Her hair fell straight down, except she had a flowery scrunchie around one thick lock of hair that pouted off the top of her head, giving her a very frivolous, girlie look. Now, if my memory serves me, this girl is in her late twenties, so girlie she is not, but the look was definitely youthful.

In front of the front-desk girls, I kiss her on the cheek and pretend she is a long-known acquaintance and we are going up to my room to have a formal business discussion. In a loud voice I proclaim what a great surprise it was to get her sms after such a long time, I ask her how her taxi ride was, and whether the heat of the night is a problem for her. The elevator doors shut, and I immediately shut up and look her up and down. She squirms uncomfortably for a moment, then decides to ignore me and starts to check herself out in the mirrored door. Kumbu will have none of that, so I grab her by the waist and pull her to me. She seems a little uncomfortable, and I think to myself that this may be a long night.

Into the room, and the first thing she says is 'where shower?' Uh-oh. I hate it when they want to talk for half an hour before we do the deed, but the antithesis of that (which I was witnessing right now) seems even worse. I ignore her question and ask her if she wants a drink. She says 'no thank you. Where shower?' I pause, so as to signal my displeasure, and then motion to the bedroom. She huffs off into the bathroom and I hear the shower running for a few moments. Umm...what's happening here?

She returns with a towel around her and I ask if everything is ok. She hums and haws for a while about how everything is ok, all the while putting on the sourest of sourfaces. She finally fesses up and explains to me what a drag it was to have had the plans changed on her. She had organized her entire evening around an 8pm encounter, and when I switched it to 11pm she was not particularly happy. So I asked her why she agreed to 11pm if it was such a life-changing problem, and she said 'always up to you. You want, I give.' Whoaaaaaaa, hold on there tilak, if that really is true, why am I getting all the attitude? What I want I get?

Ok, we're about to test that mantra deary.

So I said to her, 'really? Ching-ching law?' And she says 'ching-ching. Me good. Me take care customer, always.' And Kumbu says 'Ok, customer want you to take off towel.'

She smiles, seeing that she has been caught in a spot of bother. See, most Thai girls are shy, even the gogo girls. They find it really easy to display their naked bodies on stage in front of hundreds of ogling men, but when it comes to the display in front of the man in the room, for whatever reason, they are loathe to give that up. And so I was pressing her on that principle, and she knew it. So she says 'but I shy tilak' and I say 'no need to be shy, tilak. I think you very beautiful, and I want to see you. Show me, customer say he want to see you without towel.'

A moment passes, her looking at her fidgeting fingers, me looking at her eyes. They are large, I mean goddam, huge eyes, accentuated by eye makeup that just made them larger. She had blue mascara and eye blush on which gave the impression of larger than normal eyes. I tried to look past the eye make up to see if the make up was hiding particularly small eyes, but no, they were large in their own right. Furthermore, the very high, prominent cheek bones made for quite a visual feast, as she fretted and tried to figure a way out of her conundrum.

Either she accedes and displays her naked beauty for me, which she would find uncomfortable to say the least, or she rejects my request. In this case, it would suggest that her anger at me is entirely unwarranted, since she is willing to reject the customers request now, but when I changed the time she decided (of her own free will) to agree to the change in plans. Check-mate, my beautiful but out-strategized darling.

In the end, she chose the latter, and decided not to bare her goods to me. She did this by breaking out in a huge grin and saying 'oh it's ok, I miss you, I want to see you, that's why I come here so late.' Yeah, I buy that, just like I buy Nescafe coffee instead of real coffee every morning. But I push it a little.

“If you miss me so much, why don't you show me? Take off the towel, let me see...”

She needed to nip this in the bud, so she reaches over and starts to kiss my neck. Mmmmphph, ok, she rejects me. So far, this was not turning out too well. She seems moody and uncooperative. Not how I had imagined my penultimate night here. But let's see if I can salvage something.

I turn on the magic, or so I think. I start to stroke her shoulders and her hair, I return the kissing and nuzzling, and we start to get a groove on. After a few minutes of this, she seems to have warmed up, and I am feeling all smug with myself. She gently suggests that I shower, and I ask if she wants to come with me to make sure I am clean. The look I get is as if I am crazy. Oh crap, this girl is just not going to warm up, no matter what I do. Ok, I need to change my tack.

So I get up and shower rather quickly. I am usually meticulous about cleaning – I clean all the cracks and wrinkles I can get my fingers into, simply out of respect for the girl. Who knows where her tongue will eventually find itself, and the last thing I want is for her to pull away because of odor or taste issues. But in this case, I figured it didn't really matter since she was going to be sour no matter what I did.

I got out, and she was lying under the sheets, flat as a pancake, looking straight up at the ceiling. She did not even look my way when I came out of the bathroom. I climb onto the bed and she finally turns to look at me. Gee, thanks honey. I looked at her with an expressionless face, trying to figure out what the best course of action would be. Should I pay her something small and send her on her way? I could then duck back out and try to pick a girl from Soi Cowboy again? Who knows, maybe Spider is still trolling the bars...

Or should I persevere? Never the one to give up, and ever the optimist, I decided to stick it out. So I stroked her hair again, her forehead, her shoulders, and tried to hold a conversation. I thought maybe a little talk would soften her up, and then things would proceed in a fashion to which I am more accustomed. But literally 90 seconds into my attempted buttering up, she gets up and says 'ok, what you want?'
Kumbu: What?
Sourpuss: What you want? Short time or long time?
Kumbu: hmm. Up to you.
Sourpuss: Up to me? Cannot. Up to you.
Kumbu: Well, you seem pretty angry about being here at 11pm, so I don't know what your plans are for the night. You have somewhere to be later?
Sourpuss: no understand.
Kumbu: Let's do short time.
Sourpuss: ok, where condom?

I reached over and grabbed a box of local Durex condoms, pull one out and then I realized little Kumbu is not even mildly erect. How the hell am I going to proceed when this attitude is so in my face? So I stop and look at her. I decided at this point to bail. It just was not worth it.

I get up, drop my towel, and pull on my boxers. She sees this and says in an aggressive voice 'arai na?' I say nothing, pulling on my jeans. She gets agitated, and says 'what you do?' I pull out of my pocket 500B and say to her
Kumbu: Here, this is for you. Thank you for your time, time for you to go.
Sourpuss: Why tilak? You angli me?
Kumbu: Time to go. Get dressed.

And so began the screaming. Something about how I had called her here and spoiled her entire night, and now all I am giving her is 500B. Her screaming is top-of-the-lungs stuff, really memorable throat-ripping shrieks, hand waving 'I've gone fucking bonkers' kind of screaming. In America, my nosy neighbor would have called 911 already, 'Hello police? That colored gentleman has some screaming who*re in his house again.'

As she shouted and gesticulated at me in semi-English, I wondered about my safety. I don't really know this girl, and she may just pull out a shank or something and go at me. A line from a James Brown song went through my mind:

“I don't know karate, but I know Kuh-raze-eh” (crazy)

She's angry, sure, but so was I. She had cocked up my penultimate night royally, and I was not too happy about that. But I decided I needed to calm her down, so I talked to her at length in a soft, calm voice.

Kumbu: You know, I call you to have good time. You come here, no smile, angry with me, because I am a busy man I cannot see you at 8pm, so you get angry with me. And then you lie there like you are dead. How can I enjoy myself with you. Before I thought you were a very good lady, jai dii, smiling, laughing, happy. But today you are angry, no smiling, no fun. Why should I pay if you are angry at me?
Sourpuss: Ok, understand. But cannot pay me 500, no good.

As I was ranting, she was dressing, so when I was done with my rant she was fully dressed. I pulled out a further 200B and handed it to her. That would cover the BF and taxi. She began to protest, at which point I opened the door and held it open, wordless, looking down at my feet. I stood like that for a good 20 seconds, in silence, as she glared at me. I stood there, saying nothing, looking only at my feet. The silence was as thick as a fillet mignon at Ruth Chris' Steak House – you could cut it with a steak knife. But I stood there, holding the door, wordless...until she left. As she left, she looked my way but I did not even raise my eyes from the floor. She walked out, I released the door and let it close on its own power, and took a deep sigh of relief. She had fucked up my penultimate night here. Dammit.

It was now almost midnight, and I had to be up at 7am to get to work on time. I had a decision to make: go out hunting, or stay in and sleep?

This is the part where a manager would ask "now what do you think you could have done differently? "

Just my thoughts but assuming you wanted her:

I would have kept the 8 pm time

Would NEVER kiss a thai girl in public

Would not "grab" a thai girl under any circumstances, even in an elevator

And let the thing about her dropping the towel go

"She had fucked up my penultimate night"

I don't know. Takes 2 to tango, don't it?

Yeah sorry Kumbu, but I'm with the girl on this one.

It sounds like you were being unreasonable and overly demanding.

[QUOTE=Kumbu]...She's angry, sure, but so was I. She had cocked up my penultimate night royally, and I was not too happy about that. But I decided I needed to calm her down, so I talked to her at length in a soft, calm voice...[/QUOTE]
Hummm ... why didn't you just give her the patented penultimate "Kumbu Move"?

Instead of screaming at you in anger, she'd have been whimpering in ecstasy, I'm sure, mate. :)

[QUOTE=Mealticket]I don't know. Takes 2 to tango, don't it?[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Evianist]Yeah sorry Kumbu, but I'm with the girl on this one. It sounds like you were being unreasonable and overly demanding.[/QUOTE]Huh, interesting. I honestly had not thought of it that way, but now that you mention it, and now that I re-read my post, I might just agree with you. I was very crabby that night, feeling very frazzled and impatient. I don't know, she was being a little pissy about it, and given all the star treatment I had gotten recently, I guess I was expecting more. Plus, when I spoke to her in Rainbow 4 she was a total sweetheart. But point well taken: I think I might have been (at least partly) to blame.

Well, I suppose the truth is I didn't REALLY want to fuck her, otherwise I would have, right? I would have just gone ahead and done it, and little kumbu would not have failed me. As it was, I did venture out immediately after that and I eventually did get my rewards. And what a tasty set of rewards they were. Next post.

[QUOTE=Daddy07]Hummm ... why didn't you just give her the patented penultimate "Kumbu Move"?

Instead of screaming at you in anger, she'd have been whimpering in ecstasy, I'm sure, mate. :)[/QUOTE]Hah! Hadn't thought of that. It might have worked too...

The first two seem to be typical Japanese hostess/karaoke clubs whereas the third is a massage place catering mainly to Japanese customers. There are a few places like this on Soi33 and many others in the small sois between Tonglor and Asoke (one of the main Japanese areas of BKK)


[QUOTE=Globe Trots]Hi guys,

I'm fairly familiar with parts of BKK (ie. the various MPs, Cowboy, Nana, etc), but was doing some research on interesting new places for my upcoming 2-4 July BKK trip (only have 1 friday late morning meeting, but told the gf that i have to play golf on Sat + have dinner on Sat night.. heh heh).

Anyway, here's the 3 new places that I've come across that I can't find much info on. If anyone has more info, that would be great. Otherwise, you guys can wait for my FR when I'm back!

These places appear to be affiliated somehow (links to all of them from the Place 1's website), and are all on Sukhumvit Soi 33.

Place 1 - Lounge Strawberry Farm ([url]http://stf-bkk.com/[/url])
Appears to be some kind of companion bar, site says "1 hour 620B (One girl can be chosen)"

Place 2 - Vanilla Sexy Cafe and Bar ([url]http://vanilla-bkk.com/[/url])
Again appears to be some kind of companion bar, site says "250b for 60mins with 1 drink entry fee. Hostess drinks 150b / 30mins." But then again, it says 1200b tip hostess. Interesting pic of what goes on inside? [url]http://vanilla-bkk.com/greeting.html[/url]

Place 3 - Nyan Nyan Massage ([url]http://nyan2-bkk.com/[/url])
Price is 1h - 2,100bht, 1.5h - 2,200bht, 2hr - 2,300bht. Also mentions something about a 'pussy massage'

The reason why I'm asking is because the girls shown on the sites all look quite cute, and I figured it would be an interesting switch from my usual daytime haunts of Snow White, Mango, etc. Am particularly interested in the Nyan Nyan place as I'm looking for an Akane replacement. Akane is awesome, but after having gone >10 times, it's starting to get a little repetitive![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Kumbu]Huh, interesting. I honestly had not thought of it that way, but now that you mention it, and now that I re-read my post, I might just agree with you. I was very crabby that night, feeling very frazzled and impatient. I don't know, she was being a little pissy about it, and given all the star treatment I had gotten recently, I guess I was expecting more. Plus, when I spoke to her in Rainbow 4 she was a total sweetheart. But point well taken: I think I might have been (at least partly) to blame.

Well, I suppose the truth is I didn't REALLY want to fuck her, otherwise I would have, right? I would have just gone ahead and done it, and little kumbu would not have failed me. As it was, I did venture out immediately after that and I eventually did get my rewards. And what a tasty set of rewards they were. Next post.[/QUOTE]Glad you can be introspective Kumbu but it did not appear to me that you did anything overtly wrong. Actually you have me a little nervous about my first trip to the LOS if this is typical behavior. Not wanting you to grab her when alone in the elevator or drop her towel? Those seem like pretty reasonable requests to make to a WG. In my primary mongering environ (Brazil, heck even Mexico) this would have been expected behavior.

Sure you may not be the most charming man alive and there are things she would probably rather be doing, but c'mon, this is her job. I don't give my boss an attitude like that.

For jammers, try some of the "spy" shops in MBK or Panthip.
I have no idea how much they cost and if they work.

Tilac in SC seems to have installed jammers as their is almost no signal there.



[QUOTE=Barko]A mini quad blocker for CDMA/GSM/DCS/PHS/3G costs about $50 USD in Hong Kong. They're about the size of a cell phone and they do work great. Nice little gadgets. (Have not seen them in BKK.)

Caveat emptor: Cell jammers are illegal in most countries.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Edward M]Glad you can be introspective Kumbu but it did not appear to me that you did anything overtly wrong. Actually you have me a little nervous about my first trip to the LOS if this is typical behavior.[/QUOTE]First, don't let this raise doubts in your head - come to LOS, you will enjoy it. Second, I think my mistake was less in deed and more in hubris. I had begun to believe that I had figured these girls out, and that every experience was going to be top notch. And so when she gave me attitude, it was a little surprising (although as the posters point out, it shouldn't have been), and I was not patient enough to recognize it. I think THAT was my mistake.

[QUOTE=Edward M]Not wanting you to grab her when alone in the elevator or drop her towel? Those seem like pretty reasonable requests to make to a WG. In my primary mongering environ (Brazil, heck even Mexico) this would have been expected behavior.[/QUOTE]I think the towel-drop thing was a little bit of a power trip on my part, and probably should not have happened. As I say, Thai ladies are different in that they are totally ok with dancing around naked on stage, they do tend to be much shyer than one would expect in the bedroom. But the other things I did were totally reasonable:
- kiss on the cheek in public - done this thousands of times, it is formal, European, never gotten any attitude because of it.
- grab in the elevator - done this thousands of times too, it is playful, never got any attitude because of it.
- Wanting eye contact...not unreasonable.
- Showering together - I don't usually like doing this, but when it is rejected so directly, that's a very bad signal.
- Rearranging a meeting time...come on! If it was difficult for her, really, shouldn't she have told me? Rather than turning up pissed off and giving me attitude?

[QUOTE=Edward M]Sure you may not be the most charming man alive[/QUOTE] Or I may be, and this was just a stroke of bad luck :)

Monday night, just past midnight, time for one last run at Climax. My penultimate night in BKK, I had just flopped with the girl from Rainbow 4, and I was tired and grouchy. But I WAS going to enjoy the night dammit! I walked down soi 11 to the club and walked in to a 30% full club. There were plenty of open tables, lots of open space, and loads of lonely women. Most of them were with friends, but there were the occasional singles milling about. I found a table near the entrance, one row deep, sat and sipped my Coke Light. I fiddled with my phone, drafting my goodbye SMSs to my various girls. I would send them out in one big hurrah on Wed morning before I get on the plane. This wasn't necessary, but it was a good diversion as I sat there and allowed both the club to fill up and the girls to spot me and scope me out.

I was tired. I was cranky. I was not in the best of moods, perhaps this is not the best way to monger. But there I was, trolling Climax looking for a victim. I began to feel a little lechery. I mean, given my fatigue, it is likely that whoever I end up with (if anyone) will not get the Super Deluxe Kumbu Treatment which includes full detailing, interior and exterior. Perhaps she'd get just the Superior Kumbu Treatment, which includes a free tire waxing, but no more.

There was an Arab-looking guy at the table in front of me, alone, and with a big-ass bottle of Jack Daniels at his table. Jeez, dude, could you be a little more obvious? But it worked: the girls at the table behind me were giggling their little tushies off at this sight, and they eventually managed to get themselves ensconced with the young Bedouin. They were not much to look at, and I could tell he wasn't terribly interested in them. They were skinny, and mid-twenties. I think he was looking for something with a little more body, and perhaps something of a more recent vintage. But he stuck it out with them for a good 15 minutes, and then bailed on them, leaving them at their own table. He then retreated to his own table, and continued the meditation, waiting for a suitable mistress.

I lost track of him at that point, since a sudden influx of sweeties distracted me. There was this one girl who caught my eye. She was tall and slender, long straight hair, and a smile to end all smiles. She was wearing jeans (bad sign), and a flowery white blouse (not skin tight, bad sign). But her face was about as delightful as you can get. She looked like the kind of girl one might fantasize about in high school. Sex goddess she was not, but you know, maybe something tender would be useful tonight?

Before I made any commitment to her, out of the corner of my eye I saw a spectacular set of legs. That's all I saw: legs – nothing else registered in my visual cortex, legs-legs-legs. My head snapped across to get a better look, but the legs disappeared into the crowd. Fuck! Must find legs! So I jumped off my stool and rushed in the direction of the legs. My eyes were looking down the whole time, not at the people but at their legs, and I was pushing through the crowd looking for those legs again. I had a photographic image of them in my mind and I was matching every set of legs I saw with that image, but I found nothing that even came close. I made a full circle of the club and was unable to locate the legs again, so when I got back to my table, I just sat down a little deflated.

A few moments later, my Spidey sense started to tingle. I popped my head away from my SMS composition and looked around like a prairie dog looking out of its borough. And behold: there they were. Standing in all their glory, stretched out like a sexual super highway (I really like that description, not sure why, and hence the title of this post), facing away from me. I looked and admired, and I felt precum ooze from little kumbu. Wtf, you're pathetic Kumbu – have a little self-restraint. No, I cannot restrain myself- I must have her.

I'm generally a shy kind of guy in Climax (and elsewhere too). But tonight I was just not myself. I was very impatient. I think it must have been the 30 nights in a row of poor sleep, followed by long days of work. It gets to you after a while, and my patience was shot at this point. And because of this, I was far more direct than I usually am. This turned out ok, in fact, so newbies take note: directness can work, provided you are not rude.

So I got up and walked in her direction. She had on a clingy, one-piece teal-colored mini-skirt. She was wearing flat, open shoes which accentuated the length of her legs – this girl knew exactly what her best asset was. Speaking of which, her ass bulged out of that clingy mini-skirt like the sun breaking the horizon at dawn. I approached her like a lion approaches its prey – slowly, cautiously. I was looking at every detail of her architecture. I was interested in the leg-to-arm ratio, the waist thickness, the ass bulge, the amount of shoulder fat. How thick were her upper arms? How thick are her ankles relative to her knees? Are her thighs super fatty or toned? What kind of toes does she have – the farm-girl five-point star toes or a tight set of straighties? Fingernails? Or chewed stubs? What was she drinking? Who was she with? How does she move, stealthily like a cat? Or stumbly like a beagle?

All things checked out, except I had not circled around enough to see her face. So I started out that way, and I eventually got to an angle where I could see her face, and it was...ok. I mean, nothing spectacular, but ok. If I wanted a cute face, I could always go for the be-jeaned girl with the white frilly top. But if I wanted a perfect body, then here you are Kumbu.

Well, what sealed the deal was that as I circled around and got to a point where she could see me, she looked at me through the crowd and then looked away quickly in a shy manner. Then...a few moments later...she looked back. I gotcha my darling.

So we smiled at each other a little, and then I decided I didn't really have time to futz around, so I went right up to her and:

Kumbu: Hello, my name is <kumbu>
Girlie: <incoherent single syllable name>
Kumbu: Nice to meet you.
Girlie: Nice to meet you. Where you from?
Kumbu: America.
Girlie: Ooh, nice.
Kumbu: Nice? Why?
Girlie: I like man from America.
Kumbu: Good, coz man from America like you.
Girlie: ...

And then, just like that, her hand comes up to my neck and she starts to sexy dance me. That was quick. We did this for 10 minutes and rather uncharacteristically, I sealed the deal quickly. I told her I had to work tomorrow at 7am, so I have to go back to the hotel now, does she want to come with me? Of course she did, so we held hands as we walked out. It was now just past 1am, and the place was quite full at this point.

We got back to the hotel and we talked for 15 minutes as she sipped a Bacardi Breezer. 23 years old, Chiang Mai, been in BKK 4 months, works in cell phone store at MBK, one child back home, three brothers and two sisters, hates Thai men, will only date falang men now, likes sex in the ass, prefers noodles over rice, and can't eat anything spicy.

Wait a minute? What was that last one? The one before spicy and noodles/rice? Something about sex in the ass?

“Yes, I like in toot.”

Fuck me. I have NEVER heard this from a woman in Thailand. What IS it with the ass sex this time in Thailand? Are all Thai women suddenly becoming very liberal with their asses? Did the red shirts somehow put ass sex on the menu for these ladies? Naah, I think it is just a lucky coincidence. I suspect on my next trip ass sex will be back to the abomination it usually is.

But as (bad) luck would have it, I was not particularly in the mood for ass sex. I kind of wanted a good, solid, old-fashioned vaginal doggie sex session tonight, so I told her we would find a way to please her, no matter what.

Into the shower we went. She ogled at the hair on my body – so MUCH! And then the regular 'oh my budhha!' when little kumbu is revealed, and then the fun began. We lathered up, and showered off, and then for the first time ever, this girl decides that after the shower, she wants to take a bath. I have a huge bathtub in my suite and I have never used it. I come to the same hotel each time I visit Thailand and stay in the same suite each time, and on none of these occasions have I ever used the bathtub. So she broke my bathtub virginity.

She gets in and insists I join her. The water is tepid, but we sit there playing with each other's bits for a good ten minutes. It was awesome. I tried to play with her legs, awesome as they were, but it's not that easy in the bathtub. She was eager to show me her various holes, and I started to kiss and suckle her ass while in the bathtub. Gents, this is a fine experience indeed – a fresh, clean set of holes immersed in water being thrust in and out of your mouth. Very pleasant indeed.

But little kumbu was busting, and she was eager to proceed. So we jumped out of the bath, quickly dried each other and hopped into bed. I made a beeline for her pussy and started to gently suck on her vaginal lips. I was keenly aware that this may be the last time I taste the luscious pink flesh, so I totally made it count. I put all my energy into it, trying my best to please her as well as please myself. As I suckled and slurped, my hands were playing with her thighs and calves, and boy they were spectacular. They were well shaped, very well toned, and they had the most sumptuous texture: they were hard (i.e., toned muscle lay beneath the skin, no fat whatsoever), but the skin was ridiculously soft. This groping of her legs was doing more for me than sticking my tongue into her holiest of holies. But that's not an unexpected experience.

We did this for perhaps 10 minutes, until she had a gentle orgasm. It was really very interesting – she arched her back, grasped the sheets with one hand, and grasped my face with the other, putting the palm of her hand against my check and stroking it intensely. It was a very tender moment, where she seemed to be expressing genuine pleasure, or at least that's the way I chose to interpret it. She puckered her lips and whispered a soft, gentle 'oooooooohhhh. She pulled up, as did I. I wove my arms around her legs, pulled up, placed my head sideways on her belly, with my cheek flat against her tight belly, my chest against her hot and wet pussy, and we lay there, breathing together for 2-3 minutes. She then mounted me in CG. She rode me gently (no smashed testicles here, thank heavens), and then she rotated into reverse CG. She was very gentle, very soft, very careful, but very intuned with me. I like this girl – she had personality, and she was not a brute. We then switched into doggie, and this is where things got hot and heavy.

I was on my knees, little kumbu inside the lovely, and she started to pound her ass back and forth for me. So I just stayed still while she did all the work. I let my mind go, I looked up at the ceiling as the pleasure was inflicted upon me, and I breathed deeply. I raised my arms and did a kind of good-morning stretch, flexed my arm muscles, and then sank my hands deeply into her ass cheeks. She was busy pounding and having a good time. I looked down at her asshole and for a moment was tempted to try to slip little kumbu in there. But ass sex is somewhat tiresome – it requires effort since it needs to be more controlled, and I was not in the mood to be so gentle and controlled. So I started to rub her asshole with my thumb, and she groaned in pleasure.

I took over the pounding effort, and with my left hand I grabbed her hips and helped myself thrust into her, and with my right hand I fingered her asshole. Needless to say, the end arrived fairly soon, and as the energy left me, immediately after the first ejaculatory spasm, I immediately started to think about work the next day. Hah!

So we cleaned up, I paid her 1500B and took her number, and she left with a sweet kiss on the cheek. I have a feeling I will never see her again, but that's ok. She was a charmer, with phenomenal legs, and a great attitude. This certainly made up for my flop earlier that night, and in the end, it was worth the effort to go out one more time that night. My only regret was that I was not able to lay her out flat and just stroke those legs. But in this Land of Legs, I am sure I will have a similar opportunity in the future.

I slept a mere 4 hours that night, but it was worth it in the end.

I'M a guy not of retirement age retired in Bangkok. I've been here a little more than five years. Some months are better than others and June was one of those. Here's how it went.

It began on the first, a good sign, when my super compact Beer Garden friend came over right at 2 for an early afternoon CIM BJ. She's really cute (thus she stands out on soi 7), a little less than five feet tall with huge breasts who recently added braces to her persona. It's a good look. She's full service but she's so good at oral I don't go anywhere else with her. I mean, why would I? 1, 000 baht.

I got a couple of rounds of golf in and then four days later on the fifth a freelancer I had met on the soi and given my card to came by for her second visit, a late afternoon rendezvous. Tragically, this was my one disappointment of the month; I was only able to release with a handjob after we ran though the paces. Perhaps too much golf or my lust for her had withered (had learned she's a mom, a smoker and older than she looks). Another tiny, thin one though. 1, 000 baht.

Played two more rounds of golf, took six days off, and was horny as a three-balled tomcat. On the 11th, I went into the Plaza early, before eight, and barfined a young, thin friend from one of the second floor go gos. I had met her in May. I think she's my first tom (of tom and dee fame). She's the quiet type and even though my Thai is ok she pretty much grunts at everything I say; not a big talker. Tremendous legs and ass, though, and cute as an 19-year old Thai girl should be. Full service for 2, 100 (including the 600 bar fine).

Then things got really good. I hit it and hit it hard (for me anyway) on three consecutive nights, the 15th, 16th and 17th. I can't remember when if ever I've done that. Perhaps back in my college days. The 15th and 17th were with a real find; a small, darkish, really sexy Kalasin girl I met on Sukhumvit sandwiched in between the afro wigged west Africans. She has beautiful hair and a devilish smile. Total service. Finished powerfully with her both times; 1, 000 baht a pop. Similarly, super successful release was achieved on the 16th when my tom/ go go dancer came by on a night where she was able to spit out that she wasn't working; 1, 500 baht (no bar fine).

After my three straight evening accomplishment, I took four days off to eat, sleep and replenish my precious bodily fluids.

My tom dancer was "free" again (not working) on the 21st, she asked if she could stop by and I said, "Why not". She grunted and came over. She had changed her hair style, still tommish (short) but really cute. When she showed up in short shorts accentuating her long, thin legs, I raised my eyes to the sky and mouthed a silent "thank you. " We had a great session, our fourth together. 1, 500 baht.

And then it got really good. A comrade in arms tipped me there was a hot, new dancer in one of the go gos. For that I am eternally greateful. His taste in women is good. Amusingly, as he told me the story of his conquest, she walked into the plaza in front of us. Fatefully, I got the chance to see her. Yup, hot.

I tried to get her the next night but a yippun beat me to her. The following evening I arrived early (7:30!) and when she stepped outside paid the 600 without ever going into the bar/buying drinks; all business me. I was to see her for three consecutive engagements, on the 24th, 27th and 30th. She's young, thin, cute, only a couple of weeks wearing a number, with perhaps the best (I. E., smallest and tightest) ass ever. My horizontal time with her was as good as it can get. Scary really. 2, 000 plus 600 to the bar each time. Ouch.

So that's how it goes, or how it went in June anyway. I was with five different girls for a total of ten sessions which for a man of my age and financial wherewithal is just a little high; I average eight. Not complaining though.

thanks Kumbu for your reports,
I has really opened my eyes to how you treat the ladies, pretty much I try and give then the BFE , my version of the GFE, Just try and make it fun for both of us, it works 95% of the time, but sometimes you get one that will not respond and then you need to cut your loses like you did and find another one :)

I am in no hurry and really hate when they are in a big rush, I always tell them 2 hours , if they agree then I can hope it will not be rushed, If they do not agree then I probably was going to have a problem later,
the worst can be , take shower, "where is condom " type lady , after a few years you get less and less of these since you weed them out before you take them,

Anyway please post some more, It looks like you are a Pro writer so whoever you are working for should be happy to have you back!

Cheers

BK

Suzi Wong was rather quiet the other night. But this mean't that most of the cute girls to my taste were available. I was impressed by the talent (to my taste).
I like slim and all natural without fake tits or fake noses.
A few of the very young ones were taken already but I prefer more experienced girls in mid twenties rather than those just out of school. Not sure why many customers want the girls as close to illegal age as possible that look like children.

In the end I took 3 girls from those who do the lesbian show, for a sex party back at my hotel. The Admiral Premier staff hardly blinked when I took 3 girls up to the room. No joiner fees.

Was a really great time as the girls liked to have a lot of fun together. One of them was even a true Bi-sexual and particularly had the hots for the girl with the best body.
Many of these girls are really capable of getting into the sex (and the money as well of course).

Going back through my records from last January, I barfined 6 girls from bkk gogo bars:

1. still working, now upstairs in baccara -- have never seen her get barfined, seems to be content with her salary plus some lady drinks -- not all that personable so will likely work indefinitely and eventually become a waitress

2. quit carousel in roughly february -- reasons why and whereabouts unknown -- very sociable and pleasant, so would not be surprised if someone snatched her up

3. quit mercury lounge in january after working 3 weeks -- currently living with friend in on nut, not sure what she's doing for money but did not like working

4. still working in Rio -- very nice sweet girl, always very friendly when she sees me -- only average looks and has a child, doesn't get many barfines, but I wish someone would take care of her

5. quit rainbow 1 in may after working 1.5 years -- lost interest in working, said the other girls at the bar were nasty -- planned to get a real job selling adidas t-shirts for 7K/month -- has sponsor(s)

6. still working at mandarin -- nice girl but seems to be becoming institutionalized and drinking heavily


Would be interested to hear others' accounts of what happened to girls they knew over long periods of time and/or who quit working.

Sounds like you are living a charmed life. I'd like to hear more about how you manage it though. I mean, the practicals of it: do you have a series of regulars? If so, how do you keep them in line? And how do you keep track of them all? And how much do you pay your regulars? Sounds like you sample new girls quite a lot - does living there help or hinder that? Do you tell them that you live in BKK, or does that cause problems for you?

Just curious about some of the finer details. Given how much activity you are engaged in, I'm hoping to see more reports from you...not so much on the golf though :) [QUOTE=Mealticket]I'M a guy not of retirement age retired in Bangkok. I've been here a little more than five years. Some months are better than others and June was one of those...I was with five different girls for a total of ten sessions which for a man of my age and financial wherewithal is just a little high; I average eight. Not complaining though.[/QUOTE]

Hello gents and salutes to mongers everytwhere.

I'm relatively new to this board and this is my first post and it's actually a question. I'd like to know where to go in Bangkok to find truly awesome great looking Thai women. I'm not so concerned about the cost as I am the quality. I'm talking "model", that men would universally agree upon as being hot. I haven't been to Bangkok for probably 10 years, so I'm sure alot has changed. Taste is usually quite an individual thing, but frankly many of the pics that I see here are of women of dubious quality (not a knock on anyone's preferences as the pics are always appreciated). I want beautiful women that would be universally viewed as gorgeous, otherwise why go to the time and expense. I'm not one of these guys who simply equates cost with beauty, so don't go down that path. I do however fancy very attractive ladies and don't shy away from paying what they're worth. Thanks in advance for the input, and I promise to post detailed reports with photos upon my return.If there's anyone who wants to PM me with "prime" info, that would be much appreciated also.

[QUOTE=Fon Tok]Often, if you spend a little money in a club and get to know the mamasans a little bit, you can have the pick of the litter...[i]right off the bus from Issan![/i]

But this is probably not realistic for guys just on a holiday tour. Really depends on one's experience level.[/QUOTE]Very true. Spending a little and getting in with the mamas is key to working the bars. But if you're target is fresh "Isaan" girls, then a trip to Isaan is way cheaper than spending every night in the bars working the scene.

[QUOTE=Amjeck]Very true. Spending a little and getting in with the mamas is key to working the bars. But if you're target is fresh "Isaan" girls, then a trip to Isaan is way cheaper than spending every night in the bars working the scene.[/QUOTE]
He may want fresh Issan girls who can speak basic hooker English, though.

[QUOTE=Member #2041]He may want fresh Issan girls who can speak basic hooker English, though.[/QUOTE]If they are fresh off the bus, they probably will not have much basic hooker Engrish as yet.

Beauty is of course in the eye of the beholder so just visit the different bars in Cowboy or Nana. If cost are really no issue, then try Pegasus Club or the upscale Massage places on Ratchada. If you are in BKK for while you can also try to hook up with the dancers of The Pent or The Bank but there you will most probably not get laid on the first visit.

[QUOTE=Foolsgold2010]Hello gents and salutes to mongers everytwhere.

I'm relatively new to this board and this is my first post and it's actually a question. I'd like to know where to go in Bangkok to find truly awesome great looking Thai women. I'm not so concerned about the cost as I am the quality. I'm talking "model", that men would universally agree upon as being hot. I haven't been to Bangkok for probably 10 years, so I'm sure alot has changed. Taste is usually quite an individual thing, but frankly many of the pics that I see here are of women of dubious quality (not a knock on anyone's preferences as the pics are always appreciated). I want beautiful women that would be universally viewed as gorgeous, otherwise why go to the time and expense. I'm not one of these guys who simply equates cost with beauty, so don't go down that path. I do however fancy very attractive ladies and don't shy away from paying what they're worth. Thanks in advance for the input, and I promise to post detailed reports with photos upon my return.If there's anyone who wants to PM me with "prime" info, that would be much appreciated also.[/QUOTE]

My first two reports are in the Bangkok Massage and Bangkok Massage Annie's thread. This is the last part of my first day in Thailand report.

After my dinner (which I enjoyed at MBK second floor Chinese restaurant) I went back to the hotel and had a quick sleep. I needed to recuperate my strength since I wanted to enjoy another session in the evening. The morning session at Nirvana and the afternoon session at Annie's had drained me of the necessary energy and fluids. A jet lag was also kicking in. But that did not stop me from going to soi 7. Beergarden was going to be my next stop. I had read a lot about this place and wanted to experience the exciting atmosphere for myself. So I stepped inside and walked a little bit around. Then a beautiful girl stopped me and patted on the empty chair next to her. I sat down and introduced myself. She said to me that her name was Peng, 26 years old. I ordered one Beer Singha and she ordered a water. We exchanged some smalltalk and then decided to leave together.

The night was still young and she wanted to go to Nana plaza to see what was going on there. So we walked towards Nana (it was not so hot and the distance is do-able on foot). We went into Rainbow and sat down. We enjoyed the show for a while and she saw someone on stage that was supposed to have moved in with the farang boyfriend. So she was delighted to see that it did not work out for that girl (Thai girls can be hard for one another). We had our drinks and decided to go to a club. Back in soi 7 we went into a bar with live music and listened for a while. I was tired and just wanted to go back to my hotel. But the beauty on my side did not want to leave me without getting at least some money out of me.:-)

So we went to a short time hotel (next to Eden) and I paid the 300 baht for the room. We went upstairs with the elevator and went into the room. She undressed and I saw that her figure was perfect. Beautiful shaped legs, a nice trimmed p*ssy and a firm b-cup rack. She took a quick shower and asked me to do the same. I showered quickly and lay down next to her. We started hugging and kissing and she went down to give a BBBJ. I returned the favor by going DATY on her and her juices started to flow. A nice sweet aroma arose from her hot spot and I enjoyed every second of it. She then asked me if I had any protection with me (which I did. I brought my own Durex condoms). So I covered up and went missionary on her. She enjoyed it very much and wanted to let me go slow and deep. Then we switched to doggy and I had a very nice view on her butt. Her third hole was winking towards me (but I knew that was off limits). So I just grabbed her ass firmly and started pumping. Then I flipped her onto her side and found her G-spot with my member. I heard a lot of moaning from her.

One hour was not enough for this session. So the phone rang and the desk lady asked if I wanted to extend. I agreed and went back to business. Another half hour of hard work led to a fabulous blowing of the horn and white cream covered the back of Peng. I was exhausted. It was 2:00 AM and I was up since 36 hours ago. I paid 1500 baht for Peng, another 300 for the room extention. I took Peng back to the beergarden and then continued my way back to the hotel. I was a happy man. My first day in Thailand was a success. I managed to satisfy myself and four women in three sessions. The last one was the most GFE, but normally as always your miles may vary. It is up to you how the lady/ladies react.

My second day will be subject of another report.

D.

[QUOTE=Foolsgold2010]Taste is usually quite an individual thing, but frankly many of the pics that I see here are of women of dubious quality (not a knock on anyone's preferences as the pics are always appreciated). I want beautiful women that would be universally viewed as gorgeous, otherwise why go to the time and expense. I'm not one of these guys who simply equates cost with beauty, so don't go down that path. I do however fancy very attractive ladies and don't shy away from paying what they're worth.[/QUOTE]I too am always slightly surprised that the pictures shown in the photo gallery don't really correspond with my memories of the beautiful women in Thailand. I think there are a number of reasons for this (including some absurd generalisations).

1 Many of the beautiful women I see in BKK or elsewhere are of course not p4p.

2 Many p4p women are of course not that beautiful.

3 Many of the photos are not necessarily taken to illustrate the subject's beauty.

4 Digital photos are notorious for producing harsh and unflattering images.

5 Many of the photos are taken at 2am when the subject may have scrubbed off her make-up and not be looking at her most radiant.

6 But perhaps most importantly, many of us are reluctant to post face pics in the photo gallery. I sometimes have to persuade girls to let me take their photos, and if so I always promise 'not to put on the internet'. Consequently I have a whole portfolio of pictures (some stunning, some less so) of women, some of whom I have promised not to publish.

I guess at the end of the day, beauty is in the eye of the beholder, and I have never had any problem in finding beautiful women. But personally I'm not too worried about bagging a stunner, because as many will agree, personality and performance is often inversely related to beauty.

What course(s) did you play and what condition is it in?

[QUOTE=Mealticket]I'M a guy not of retirement age retired in Bangkok. I've been here a little more than five years. Some months are better than others and June was one of those. Here's how it went. got a couple of rounds of golf in and then four days later on the fifth a freelancer
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[QUOTE=Mouse1]I too am always slightly surprised that the pictures shown in the photo gallery don't really correspond with my memories of the beautiful women in Thailand. I think there are a number of reasons for this (including some absurd generalisations).

1 Many of the beautiful women I see in BKK or elsewhere are of course not p4p.

2 Many p4p women are of course not that beautiful.

3 Many of the photos are not necessarily taken to illustrate the subject's beauty.

4 Digital photos are notorious for producing harsh and unflattering images.

5 Many of the photos are taken at 2am when the subject may have scrubbed off her make-up and not be looking at her most radiant.

6 But perhaps most importantly, many of us are reluctant to post face pics in the photo gallery. I sometimes have to persuade girls to let me take their photos, and if so I always promise 'not to put on the internet'. Consequently I have a whole portfolio of pictures (some stunning, some less so) of women, some of whom I have promised not to publish...[/QUOTE]

Moreover, many beautiful girls simply won't let you take their photo. For instance, I don't have any picture of the most stunning girls that I've "met" in Thailand (but I already posted some photos of a few cuties who are ranging from 7/10 to 8/10 in my book).

In the past, I did not even bother taking photos of the girls. I've always preferred making my own amateur video movies (when it was possible and allowed), but video captures are very seldom worth being posted here (I posted a few ones in the Photo Gallery thread, but the quality was not very good).

I must add that I am a very bad photographer, so, my photos often don't do the models justice.

[QUOTE=Foolsgold2010]Hello gents and salutes to mongers everytwhere.

I'm relatively new to this board and this is my first post and it's actually a question. I'd like to know where to go in Bangkok to find truly awesome great looking Thai women. I'm not so concerned about the cost ................................................that would be much appreciated also.[/QUOTE]
What a wonderful first timer question.

We do have the perfect solution for you. We offer a newbie guide to the most spectacular women of Bangkok. Our firm Bangkok WG Tour Company, offers this tour for only US$5000.00 per week, payable in advance. This is the cost of the tour. Costs for dining, wining and buying of women extra.

Let us know your tour date.

[QUOTE=Foolsgold2010]Hello gents and salutes to mongers everytwhere.

I'm relatively new to this board and this is my first post and it's actually a question. I'd like to know where to go in Bangkok to find truly awesome great looking Thai women. I'm not so concerned about the cost as I am the quality. I'm talking "model", that men would universally agree upon as being hot. I haven't been to Bangkok for probably 10 years, so I'm sure alot has changed. Taste is usually quite an individual thing, but frankly many of the pics that I see here are of women of dubious quality (not a knock on anyone's preferences as the pics are always appreciated). I want beautiful women that would be universally viewed as gorgeous, otherwise why go to the time and expense. I'm not one of these guys who simply equates cost with beauty, so don't go down that path. I do however fancy very attractive ladies and don't shy away from paying what they're worth. Thanks in advance for the input, and I promise to post detailed reports with photos upon my return.If there's anyone who wants to PM me with "prime" info, that would be much appreciated also.[/QUOTE]
I am sure there are stunners in a land of easy pussy for the right cost. Me being cheap will not spend more than the regular rate little more or less to get beautifull girls. For me it is not necessarily the beauty which matters but how the chemistry and the sex is.
If you want really beatifull girls as arm candy, look up the various escort sites and select your girl, pay their fees and take and post your experiences.

[QUOTE=Duniawala]What a wonderful first timer question.

We do have the perfect solution for you. We offer a newbie guide to the most spectacular women of Bangkok. Our firm Bangkok WG Tour Company, offers this tour for only US$5000.00 per week, payable in advance. This is the cost of the tour. Costs for dining, wining and buying of women extra.

Let us know your tour date.[/QUOTE]


5000 USD a week? I will show anyone around for free because this land is a place to enjoy and enjoy seeing the excitement of others!

I don't think anyone could spend that much staying at the Oriental and playing with 5 women a day for an entire year!

[QUOTE]Originally Posted by Duniawala
What a wonderful first timer question.

We do have the perfect solution for you. We offer a newbie guide to the most spectacular women of Bangkok. Our firm Bangkok WG Tour Company, offers this tour for only US$5000.00 per week, payable in advance. This is the cost of the tour. Costs for dining, wining and buying of women extra.

Let us know your tour date.[QUOTE=Bec26]5000 USD a week? I will show anyone around for free because this land is a place to enjoy and enjoy seeing the excitement of others!

I don't think anyone could spend that much staying at the Oriental and playing with 5 women a day for an entire year![/QUOTE][/QUOTE]

Brother Bec26, The US$5,000 tour offer was a joke. Aside, though, I would only charge US$4,999 for the week, and such includes tips and meals. :)

For the original author to say that money was no object was to beg the response. Money or cost is ALWAYS relevant. Having been a newbie myself, it is always advisable to read the forum (RTFF) for a few pages, to get an overview of the land prior to traveling. This board helped me tremendously while planning the trip and while on the ground. And yes, one could very easily spend US$5,000 per week in LOS if one wanted to so do. Just ask the senior board members who live in LOS. It IS very possible.

Hi Guys,

I'm wanting to fly RT Bangkok to Bali in October. It looks like Air Asia is the viable option. The price has been around $240. One day lat week (Friday) they dropped it to $200, but that lasted only on day. Then the day after it was back up to $240. However, today it is up to $280? (Sunday. US time).

Does this mean tickets are getting less plentiful?

Any thoughts on purchasing strategy? I do need a ticket for sure as I definitely am going to Bali after Pattaya. Air Asia just has that one daily early morning flight RT BKK to Bali.

Thanks for your thoughts!

Red

[QUOTE=Foolsgold2010]Hello gents and salutes to mongers everytwhere.

I'm relatively new to this board and this is my first post and it's actually a question. I'd like to know where to go in Bangkok to find truly awesome great looking Thai women. I'm not so concerned about the cost as I am the quality. I'm talking "model", that men would universally agree upon as being hot. I haven't been to Bangkok for probably 10 years, so I'm sure alot has changed. Taste is usually quite an individual thing, but frankly many of the pics that I see here are of women of dubious quality (not a knock on anyone's preferences as the pics are always appreciated). I want beautiful women that would be universally viewed as gorgeous, otherwise why go to the time and expense. I'm not one of these guys who simply equates cost with beauty, so don't go down that path. I do however fancy very attractive ladies and don't shy away from paying what they're worth. Thanks in advance for the input, and I promise to post detailed reports with photos upon my return.If there's anyone who wants to PM me with "prime" info, that would be much appreciated also.[/QUOTE]

In my experience the best quality (both in how they look and how they behavior) I found in the past in Spasso Disco (Hyatt Erawan Hotel).
Next week I will be in BKK again and will validate if this still is the case

[QUOTE=Syzygies]Suzi Wong was rather quiet the other night. But this mean't that most of the cute girls to my taste were available. I was impressed by the talent (to my taste).

I like slim and all natural without fake tits or fake noses.

A few of the very young ones were taken already but I prefer more experienced girls in mid twenties rather than those just out of school. Not sure why many customers want the girls as close to illegal age as possible that look like children.

In the end I took 3 girls from those who do the lesbian show, for a sex party back at my hotel. The Admiral Premier staff hardly blinked when I took 3 girls up to the room. No joiner fees.

Was a really great time as the girls liked to have a lot of fun together. One of them was even a true Bi-sexual and particularly had the hots for the girl with the best body.

Many of these girls are really capable of getting into the sex (and the money as well of course).[/QUOTE]What did the trio party set you back? Any girl numbers from the party you can remember? Sounds like fun. Will try next week! SF

Okay, I am taking a chance here, and I know this is not the forum for Giotto's place, but this is more general info even though it is about Livingston's.

I haven't been to Bangkok in 12-14 years, somethings have changed, many only the faces have changed.

I did stay at Livingston's last night and for me, it was the perfect place.

The staff is helpful and knowledgeable, the room was clean and serviceable, the breakfast well prepared and I enjoyed my dinner as well.

Spent some time in the Sports Lounge, as it was Sunday night and I wasn't in the mood to go exploring. To be honest, while I can appreciate the eye popping array of lovely ladies in Cowboy and the like, I don't usually find the level of intimacy I enjoy from the ladies there.

What I really liked about Livingston's is the willingness of the owner and his lovely spouse to share their knowledge with guests. As an example, I inquired about the talents of a couple of the girls in the sports bar on site, and was given what turned out to be very good and accurate info. I was also encouraged to check out a couple of competing bars to see if there was something more to my liking, but staying within my general desires. To me, this shows confidence in the level of service one provides as well as willingness to make sure the guest enjoys his stay.

I know there has been a lot of comments about what Livingston's is and what is not. It is not a five star, hotel or resort, nor does it pretend to be. At least in my opinion, it is a reasonably priced refuge in the middle of a busy city, where you can explore to your heart's content, or sit back and enjoy the attentions of the ladies that work closer to home. I enjoy knowing the gals onsite have been well screened and are accountable to a reasonable level.

I found the owners to be warm and enjoyable hosts, and I will return here on my next visit. I encourage all who visit to give it a try and see for themselves.

Sky

[QUOTE=Evianist]Going back through my records from last January, I barfined 6 girls from bkk gogo bars:

1. Still working, now upstairs in baccara -- have never seen her get barfined, seems to be content with her salary plus some lady drinks -- not all that personable so will likely work indefinitely and eventually become a waitress.

2. Quit carousel in roughly february -- reasons why and whereabouts unknown -- very sociable and pleasant, so would not be surprised if someone snatched her up.

3. Quit mercury lounge in january after working 3 weeks -- currently living with friend in on nut, not sure what she's doing for money but did not like working.

4. Still working in Rio -- very nice sweet girl, always very friendly when she sees me -- only average looks and has a child, doesn't get many barfines, but I wish someone would take care of her.

5. Quit rainbow 1 in may after working 1.5 years -- lost interest in working, said the other girls at the bar were nasty -- planned to get a real job selling adidas t-shirts for 7K/month -- has sponsor(s).

6. Still working at mandarin -- nice girl but seems to be becoming institutionalized and drinking heavily.

Would be interested to hear others' accounts of what happened to girls they knew over long periods of time and/or who quit working.[/QUOTE]Evanist,

Why waste your time keeping all this records unless you want to date this woman, I never ask for phone number and never repeat for the same woman, there are too many WG in Thailand to sample.

Fast Eddie 48

[QUOTE=Dhardesh]My first day in Thailand was a success. I managed to satisfy myself and four women in three sessions.
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Thanks for those reports. I enjoy reading reports that have more of a storyline to them. Better prose than simple stats or figures.

[QUOTE=Redfield10]I'm wanting to fly RT Bangkok to Bali in October. It looks like Air Asia is the viable option. The price has been around $240. One day lat week (Friday) they dropped it to $200, but that lasted only on day. Then the day after it was back up to $240. However, today it is up to $280? (Sunday. US time).

Does this mean tickets are getting less plentiful?

Any thoughts on purchasing strategy? I do need a ticket for sure as I definitely am going to Bali after Pattaya. Air Asia just has that one daily early morning flight RT BKK to Bali.[/QUOTE]Can't comment on that particular flight, but I did recently fly one lady from BKK to Singapore. I had checked the price, then for various reasons (TGs!) did not book it until fairly late, and was shocked at how much the price had gone up.

My advice to you is to book it now, because the price is more likely to go up than down. If you delay buying it, you also risk it being full. Then you will feel pretty silly for trying to save $40. :)

[QUOTE=Redfield10]Hi Guys,

I'm wanting to fly RT Bangkok to Bali in October. It looks like Air Asia is the viable option. The price has been around $240. One day lat week (Friday) they dropped it to $200, but that lasted only on day. Then the day after it was back up to $240. However, today it is up to $280? (Sunday. US time).

Does this mean tickets are getting less plentiful?

Any thoughts on purchasing strategy? I do need a ticket for sure as I definitely am going to Bali after Pattaya. Air Asia just has that one daily early morning flight RT BKK to Bali.

Thanks for your thoughts!

Red[/QUOTE]

I booked last week Air Asia Bkk to Bali - 1 Week Sat to Sat inclusive for 6358bt including airport tax. All other days departing or arriving were more expensive.

Need to punch in alternative dates to find best fares.

[b]context[/b]: the preceding night, i had bombed badly with a girl who i had called and arranged for her to visit me in my hotel room. i then scored big time with a girl who i picked up at climax. i slept at 3am that morning, and was supposed to be up at 7am to get to work...when the phone rings...

kumbu: mmmm?
girlie: tilak, when you go amelikaa?
kumbu: umm, to...today...i think.
girlie: tilak, me want see you one more time. daay may?
kumbu: umm...who...umm...when...wait, what time is it?
girlie: tilaaaaaaak, daay may?
kumbu: umm, ok, sure. bye.

kumbu gets out of bed at 7am, tired, groggy, confused. brushes teeth, dresses, breakfast, double espresso....wait, what?

what just happened? did i just agree to a date tonight with my regular from pattaya? i did!?!

on the way to work, i pondered the implications of this. we had said our goodbyes the previous sunday, in a couple of reports i posted on the pattaya thread, for which i caught some steam from other isg members. the steam was that these reports were a little too emotional, even more so than my other reports (which is saying something). i admit they were, but that's what happened. rather than not post the reports, or lie, i posted reports that caused anger and indignation. perhaps it was that these reports were piled upon many other similarly detailed and introspective reports that caused the anger, but there you have it. you are free to read them at your peril (or not).
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don't think that i am a sap who fell in love with this girl – i didn't. but i will admit to feeling a certain warmth, or affection, towards her. and so it was a little more difficult than normal to just drop her, and walk on into the next stage of my life.

it reminds me of when i was 12 years old, still unaware of the power of sex and emotion. i had a dog, his name was bonaparte, but we called him boner (!). anyway, boner was a spirited dog, not one of those docile sloths. he jumped, ran, chased, barked and did all the things that you love about animated dogs. and he was a sweet-ass dog too. anyway, we had a neighbor who had a labrador b-itch (this word is starred out by the isg software, so i will get around that with the hyphens since it is not the derogatory use of the word) who went into heat one day (the labrador, not the neighbor), and boner was caught in her mix. when a b-itch is in heat, it turns out a male dog is incapable of resisting. we had a thorn fence between our properties, doubled up with a chain-link fence. boner dug his way under the chain link fence, and then forced his way through the thorn-patch hedge, cutting his face and paws up pretty good trying to get to the b-itch in heat. our neighbor found him copulating with her, and threw some cold water on them and tossed boner's ass back into our property. he then filled in the hole under the fence, and re-hedged the hole in the thorn hedge. he then complained to us, and so it was my task to ensure boner didn't, well, get a boner. har har, yeah.

during the whole of that next day, i watched my poor boner (forgive the pun) as he made attempt after attempt to penetrate the chain-link fence and thorn patch, over and over again. i kept going down and pulling him away, trying to keep him away from the b-itch in heat, and not quite understanding that it was not boner's choice. i tried to entice him with lots of food placed far away from the hedge; i tried to console him by whispering softly into his ear; i tried to distract him by running and playing around with him. but none of that worked – he kept going back to that hedge and trying to find his way through. he couldn't help himself – he was on autopilot, and the biology had taken over at this point. that night, he spent the entire night forcing his way through the doubled fortification between our properties, and in the morning, our neighbor was incensed to find the two dogs fucking away right at his front door. so boner was kicked back into our property, and the fortification was tripled up.

over the next few days, boner continued to make his attempts to penetrate the fortifications, and in the process he severely hurt himself, to the point we had to sedate him. and even then, as i watched him sleep under the power of the drugs, his legs were kicking gently, and he had a perpetual erection. it was a revelation to me, the wide-eyed 12 year old, as to the power of biology and sex, and i have never forgotten it.

nine weeks later, my neighbor had a puppy litter of seven little boner look-a-likes. neighbor was none too happy, and i swear, boner had the most sheepish grin on his face.

here i was, living my own boner story. this girl from pattaya, a p4p girl to be sure, was exerting her power over me just like the labrador b-itch over boner. and in the process of trying to copulate with her, kumbu was inflicting wound after wound upon himself. certainly not the physical wounds that boner endured, but deep and traumatizing nonetheless. but as i said, so long as i know what i am doing, who can do anything to stop it, right?

so i went to work – the last day. the office girls were teary to see me go. none of them had managed to bed me, and that is to my credit. never crap where you eat, that's what i always say. well, at least that's what conceited kumbu thinks – perhaps none of them would ever bed me for fear of being branded the office s-l-u-t. we went to dinner together, and we said our sad farewells, but then i hightailed it back to my hotel. upon my arrival, at 6pm, my girl was waiting for me. she had taken the bus from pattaya and was waiting in my lobby. this is the second (different) girl waiting for me in the hotel lobby, and so i couldn't really pretend she was a work acquaintance. so i just kissed her on the cheek and took her up to the room.

we showered and we went straight into hard sex. it was weird, it was a kind of bitter-sweet, painful sex, not the frivolous, carefree, joyous, sensuous sex i had had with her so many times. i can't quite explain it, it was like we were both trying to spoil a good thing so we would not miss it later. it was a very surreal experience, almost as if i was detached from reality, and i was watching myself go through the actions of sex. there was no daty, no rimming (unlike past times with her which always included both these items), the sex was missionary the whole time, and it was just not quite right. i ended with a heave, and she whispered back at me, and that was that. i am certain i did not hurt her, but i think there was little pleasure in it for either of us. i'm embarrassed to describe it this way – in such a cold, disinterested manner – but sadly, that's how it happened.

afterwards, we showered together in a kind of mutually-agreed silence. we ordered room service dinner, and i packed up my things, as she whimpered about me leaving. i was tired, physically and emotionally, and truth be told, very unsure how to deal with the emotional tor****es being sent my way. so i just packed silently. we got a taxi to the airport at 3am, and she negotiated with the taxi driver that he would take her to pattaya right after dropping me off at the airport. i paid him the 280b to the airport, plus 800 for her trip to pattaya, and i gave her 1000 for the earlier sex. she was fine with all of that. i will skip the goodbye scene at the airport which was, well, intense, for fear of starting another flame war.

you may have noticed that my description of what happened is rather clinical and cold. this is for two reasons. first, i'm trying to temper some of the emotion, as some here are uncomfortable with such expression. and second, it was indeed a confusing episode in my month-long mongering experience here. on the one hand, she is a paid-for-sex girl. every single night i saw her, when she performed, she got paid. she has told me to my face that she is doing this (all of this) for money, no question about it. but on the other hand, i must say that i connected with this girl.

i am not so stupid as to fall for her (or any other girl i pay to have sex with), but i certainly do feel an affinity towards her. i'm certainly not going to do anything daft like start sending her money (under the guise of 'taking care of her'), but i'd like to keep tabs on her, become a regular of hers, and not expect any of the additional baggage that a long-term relationship brings with it. i will pay her the regular amount every time i see her, and i will expect her to perform her services as normal. but i'm hoping the warmth will remain. perhaps i am deluding myself, but time will tell.

[b]some final thoughts[/b]
many people say about thai p4p girls 'they are wh*res, that's all they are.' but i must disagree. yes, this is what they *do*, but underlyingly they are as diverse as any other group of human beings. there are some girls who are mercenaries: they know what they want and are expert at getting it. there are others who are newbies and easily manipulated. there are others who are doing it for drug money. others are doing it to support a thai boyfriend. others are in it because they genuinely need the money to support a child/family. and others doing it for countless other reasons. but to generalize across them all and treat them all the same way is self-deceptive and convenient for us mongers. if we de-humanize them it makes it far, far easier to fuck 'em and leave 'em. i understand that, and if you are able to do that, then more power to you.

that's neither how i am nor how i want to be. i get genuine pleasure from exploring the emotional and personal side of this activity, not just the physical. and in thailand, more so than most other mongering locations, i find the girls can be sweet, tender and humanly. if you treat them like human beings, they more often than not, will reciprocate.

i am not advocating emotional attachment for all – actually, i am advocating against it. i think if you read my reports carefully, you will recognize the emotional angst that i endure (or self-inflict). and so if you can avoid it, i would highly recommend you stay that way. but if you are like me, and i know some of you are, then know that you are not alone.

[QUOTE=Mouse1]Can't comment on that particular flight, but I did recently fly one lady from BKK to Singapore. I had checked the price, then for various reasons (TGs!) did not book it until fairly late, and was shocked at how much the price had gone up.

My advice to you is to book it now, because the price is more likely to go up than down. If you delay buying it, you also risk it being full. Then you will feel pretty silly for trying to save $40. :)[/QUOTE]Sorry but that is really bad advice. If money is a concern to you.the price on airasia is different from day to day, so sometimes if you go a day earlier or later it makes a considerable difference, but moreso if you can check their website every so often for promotions and buy when they have on of their many specials. However the last 6 weeks before flying the price usually just goes up.

and Kumbu, you have recognized a quintessential truth about many of the sex workers in muangThai - IT'S A JOB. Sometimes, they let their guard down and actually develop feelings for the "jawn" (john, whatever- I dunno what the Thai equivalent word is) but almost always it's just employment and a means to an end. There was a report I remember reading about an establishment that catered to FEMALES (you don't think that only males come to Thailand?) and that the "problem" is that in the true spirit of Thai equality, they also have a male clientele who also pay for their services. One worker expressed the desire to get out of the business and marry and have a couple of kids (being somewhat disillusioned with the "servicing males" portion of the business), but for now it was a reasonably well paying job.

[QUOTE=Redfield10]Hi Guys,

I'm wanting to fly RT Bangkok to Bali in October. It looks like Air Asia is the viable option. The price has been around $240. One day lat week (Friday) they dropped it to $200, but that lasted only on day. Then the day after it was back up to $240. However, today it is up to $280? (Sunday. US time).

Does this mean tickets are getting less plentiful?

Any thoughts on purchasing strategy? I do need a ticket for sure as I definitely am going to Bali after Pattaya. Air Asia just has that one daily early morning flight RT BKK to Bali.

Thanks for your thoughts!

Red[/QUOTE]Thanks for you advice to this query guys.

Any other opinions/advice is, of course, welcomed.

Red

[QUOTE=Bumholes1]I booked last week Air Asia Bkk to Bali - 1 Week Sat to Sat inclusive for 6358bt including airport tax. All other days departing or arriving were more expensive.

Need to punch in alternative dates to find best fares.[/QUOTE]


Nice price.......

I may need to go to Bali.

Last year I enjoyed a really good session at Star of Light. I used to visit this place late at night, but that morning I was feeling particularly frisky and wanted to wet my whistle. So I took the BTS to Sala Daeng and walked towards P(h)at pong. It was 9:30 in the morning and I had read on the forum that SOL opened early. I had to get used to the directions, because normally I only enter this part of town during the night. And now it was completely different. No touts to pull you in, no girls to ask you annoying questions. Just some stray dogs wandering about. Everything was closed and a serene peace was all around me. I almost felt guilty of disturbing this scenery with my need to get some spicy action. But here I was, a guy with needs and a place that was open and ready to serve me.

I walked in, and there was no-one except one girl that was just changing into her working costume. She asked me if I wanted a drink. And I told her that I would like to have some company. Just as my pants dropped to the floor, three more girls walked in and caught us in the act. The first girl had my member deep in her mouth and a lot of saliva was dripping down my legs to the floor. One girl asked to join us and I agreed. So she dropped on her knees and both girls took turns sucking on my c*ck.

I wanted to taste some juices, too. So I ordered a third girl to come and take her skirt off. She happily served me with a nice view of her sweet p*ssy and presented it to me by standing on the sofa. I licked her thick outer lips and parted her lips with my tongue. I sucked her flesh into my mouth and rapidly flicked her clit with my tongue. Meanwhile a fourth girl joined to give me head and now three girls were taking turns sucking the life out of me. I was in heaven. With so much excitement around me I did not last for more than 30 minutes. I ordered them not to use any hands. Only their mouth was allowed. I knew that if they would use their hands it would be over much quicker. So everytime their hands approached my member, I would wield them off. I switched girls and had another juicy set up lips to lick. Finally I erupted with a big moan and a mouthful of semen. One big swallow followed by some mouthwater was all it took for the girl to get her first shot of white goo.

I paid up and thanked the girls for the wonderful experience. Another fine day in sin city was about to begin.

D.

[QUOTE=Kuratla]Thanks for those reports. I enjoy reading reports that have more of a storyline to them. Better prose than simple stats or figures.[/QUOTE]Just returning the favor for all the great stories and info that I got from this site. I hope I can contribute some more this year as I will be visiting BKK this coming November. If anyone wants to team up, just PM me.:-)

Cheers,

D.

[quote=kumbu][b]here i was, living my own boner story. this girl from pattaya, a p4p girl to be sure, was exerting her power over me just like the labrador b-itch over boner. and in the process of trying to copulate with her, kumbu was inflicting wound after wound upon himself. certainly not the physical wounds that boner endured, but deep and traumatizing nonetheless. but as i said, so long as i know what i am doing, who can do anything to stop it, right?

so i went to work – the last day. the office girls were teary to see me go. none of them had managed to bed me, and that is to my credit. never crap where you eat, that's what i always say. well, at least that's what conceited kumbu thinks – perhaps none of them would ever bed me for fear of being branded the office s-l-u-t. we went to dinner together, and we said our sad farewells, but then i hightailed it back to my hotel. upon my arrival, at 6pm, my girl was waiting for me. she had taken the bus from pattaya and was waiting in my lobby. this is the second (different) girl waiting for me in the hotel lobby, and so i couldn't really pretend she was a work acquaintance. so i just kissed her on the cheek and took her up to the room.

we showered and we went straight into hard sex. it was weird, it was a kind of bitter-sweet, painful sex, not the frivolous, carefree, joyous, sensuous sex i had had with her so many times. i can't quite explain it, it was like we were both trying to spoil a good thing so we would not miss it later. it was a very surreal experience, almost as if i was detached from reality, and i was watching myself go through the actions of sex. there was no daty, no rimming (unlike past times with her which always included both these items), the sex was missionary the whole time, and it was just not quite right. i ended with a heave, and she whispered back at me, and that was that. i am certain i did not hurt her, but i think there was little pleasure in it for either of us. i'm embarrassed to describe it this way – in such a cold, disinterested manner – but sadly, that's how it happened.

afterwards, we showered together in a kind of mutually-agreed silence. we ordered room service dinner, and i packed up my things, as she whimpered about me leaving. i was tired, physically and emotionally, and truth be told, very unsure how to deal with the emotional tor****es being sent my way. so i just packed silently. we got a taxi to the airport at 3am, and she negotiated with the taxi driver that he would take her to pattaya right after dropping me off at the airport. i paid him the 280b to the airport, plus 800 for her trip to pattaya, and i gave her 1000 for the earlier sex. she was fine with all of that. i will skip the goodbye scene at the airport which was, well, intense, for fear of starting another flame war.

you may have noticed that my description of what happened is rather clinical and cold. this is for two reasons. first, i'm trying to temper some of the emotion, as some here are uncomfortable with such expression. and second, it was indeed a confusing episode in my month-long mongering experience here. on the one hand, she is a paid-for-sex girl. every single night i saw her, when she performed, she got paid. she has told me to my face that she is doing this (all of this) for money, no question about it. but on the other hand, i must say that i connected with this girl.

i am not so stupid as to fall for her (or any other girl i pay to have sex with), but i certainly do feel an affinity towards her. i'm certainly not going to do anything daft like start sending her money (under the guise of 'taking care of her'), but i'd like to keep tabs on her, become a regular of hers, and not expect any of the additional baggage that a long-term relationship brings with it. i will pay her the regular amount every time i see her, and i will expect her to perform her services as normal. but i'm hoping the warmth will remain. perhaps i am deluding myself, but time will tell.

[b]some final thoughts[/b]
many people say about thai p4p girls 'they are wh*res, that's all they are.' but i must disagree. yes, this is what they *do*, but underlyingly they are as diverse as any other group of human beings. there are some girls who are mercenaries: they know what they want and are expert at getting it. there are others who are newbies and easily manipulated. there are others who are doing it for drug money. others are doing it to support a thai boyfriend. others are in it because they genuinely need the money to support a child/family. and others doing it for countless other reasons. but to generalize across them all and treat them all the same way is self-deceptive and convenient for us mongers. if we de-humanize them it makes it far, far easier to fuck 'em and leave 'em. i understand that, and if you are able to do that, then more power to you.

that's neither how i am nor how i want to be. i get genuine pleasure from exploring the emotional and personal side of this activity, not just the physical. and in thailand, more so than most other mongering locations, i find the girls can be sweet, tender and humanly. if you treat them like human beings, they more often than not, will reciprocate.

i am not advocating emotional attachment for all – actually, i am advocating against it. i think if you read my reports carefully, you will recognize the emotional angst that i endure (or self-inflict). and so if you can avoid it, i would highly recommend you stay that way. but if you are like me, and i know some of you are, then know that you are not alone.[/quote]loved the boner story. you have had one hell of a month in bkk.

not sure what type of life you lead back in us but i'm sure its not as exciting as the past month has been for you.

i've been entertained by many of your stories and adventures and like most guys we can all relate to some or all of it.

one thing is for certain, bkk gives us all a wondeful but totaly false energy.

at home we would never surviive on 3 hours sleep, multiple pops with multiple partners, continuous bonking and chasing etc. but in bkk we can do it effortlessly.

till we arrive home with barely the energy to reply to the spouse when she says " how was your trip ". lol.