General Reports

Ok, so yes it seems some DHs will have Christmas day off, but will the discos (new makiti, neptune 3, hk cafe, bar 109, etc.) be open during the day on the 25th?

i have no commitment that day, and will head to HK if i know its comparable to a sunday.

I answered your questions in my previous post. Lots of DH have Christmas off and a number have the 26. Very few guys can get out on the 25th. All bars are open. Christmas day is like a Sunday.

109 may or may not run in party mode in the mornings. All other places should be as usual.

Beware of these self styled "Tantric Massages". They are nothing but a scam. They advertise a session of 120 minutes for HK $ 1000 "Transparent All.

Inclusive" price. The girl arrives and first asks to be paid. OK. Then she asks another HK $ 100 - 200 for taxi!! Then midway she will sell, read force additional services like a taking off clothes for HK $500 and then bodyslide for another HK $1000. If you refuse they will perform poorly and the product you bought for HK $ 1000 is useless.

I used services of [URL]http://www.hongkongtantric.com/[/URL] - Scam.

I then used [URL]http://www.tantricmassage.hk/[/URL] and same modus operandi.

When I complained to them about the girl trying to extort, they were abusive and threatened me physically by sending over people.

Post terrible experience I checked out that the two sites are run by the same scamsters.

I am posting this in case this helps to keep others informed and safe. May be I am generalizing a bit, but two back to back experiences were enough for me.

I have posted many times that when using online services. IF a PROVIDER quotes less than 1000 per hour- EXPECT for them to Upsell when they visit. It always happen. Tantric Massages are very SUS. They tend to be touchy / feely and the action may be limited.

I have experienced Tantric Massages in Madrid and Barcelona and they were all fantastic experiences. Out of this world, with great hospitality and not a cent of upsell.

Its not so much that they upsell but it is forced on you and then when you complain, you are threatened!!

I guess HKG is different.

[QUOTE=Chantik;1659546]I have posted many times that when using online services. IF a PROVIDER quotes less than 1000 per hour- EXPECT for them to Upsell when they visit. It always happen. Tantric Massages are very SUS. They tend to be touchy / feely and the action may be limited.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=EmailJanus;1659527]Beware of these self styled "Tantric Massages". They are nothing but a scam. They advertise a session of 120 minutes for HK $ 1000 "Transparent All. {S N I P}
When I complained to them about the girl trying to extort, they were abusive and threatened me physically by sending over people. {S N I P} [/QUOTE]Did they actually send heavies to your door? What did they say to you? That would certainly concern me as many of these enterprises are associated with triad or other black societies.

This type of upsell is not just limited to HK, but common in China and some other parts of Asia, particularly when you pay upfront. And often the girls would not know a tantric massage from an ass wipe. Personally, I would only use these types of providers when recommended by colleagues or reputable ISG members.

Ikks.

I have been complimented for my massages, though its not the main part of my service.

Asia is very different to Europe.

No thankfully, I was not visited by any heavies.

Upsell is Ok but if I just want the product the way it was advertised then it should be respected, and I should not be pestered to the point of annoyance and poor performance. Also they advertise "open and transparent" and no taxi surcharge for downtown area, yet the girls pestered me for taxi money HKD 200!

I opted for 90 minutes at HKD 800 and the first time I was fleeced HKD 2000 for a B2 B. The advertised rates for B2 B is HKD 1400. So you can do the math.

I refused to be conned again the second time and that's when it led to a terrible experience. This is despite the fact that I treated the lady well (must always do to get mutual respect) and offered her wine etc (and offer was taken).

I have traveled a lot including Asia and never had to undergo this nonsense. Have managed to get great and pleasant service each time.

[QUOTE=Ikksman;1659723]Did they actually send heavies to your door? What did they say to you? That would certainly concern me as many of these enterprises are associated with triad or other black societies.

This type of upsell is not just limited to HK, but common in China and some other parts of Asia, particularly when you pay upfront. And often the girls would not know a tantric massage from an ass wipe. Personally, I would only use these types of providers when recommended by colleagues or reputable ISG members.

Ikks.[/QUOTE]

Hi Chantik,

Please PM me with details on your services. Also if you have a website.

Thanks.

[QUOTE=Chantik;1659810]I have been complimented for my massages, though its not the main part of my service.

Asia is very different to Europe.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=UncleJunior;1656128]It might take a little effort, but if you have any game at all, and are willing to invest the money you would be using for P2P, you will probably have a much more rewarding experience.

If that doesn't work, you can always fall back on 141 to get your needs fulfilled.
[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Shedrain;1656306]I am only here for a week, and I'm by myself. Going clubbing alone? Haha I'll give it a shot, but you're right. I can do way better.[/QUOTE]IMHO, I would use Dundus /141 and work on one's game during the recuperation period. It also depends on how much time one can devote to the pursuit. FWIW, have been clubbing alone most of my life as it is often better to ditch friends / colleagues to keep things under the radar. Also, some of the DH do not like local guys so cut your loses early. Besides local gals, try the Indo DH because many do not speak English but can speak Canto. Some are scared of their own shadow but that can be entertaining. It is better if you know a little bahasa or java. Start collecting numbers.

Bar 109 was open today. The only public holidays it is closed in the morning is Good Friday and the first day of CNY.

[QUOTE=Chantik;1660637]Bar 109 was open today. The only public holidays it is closed in the morning is Good Friday and the first day of CNY.[/QUOTE]Open yes, but running in party mode? I am a little disturbed a bit by the fact that too many girls there are drunk by 11 am on those days.

I did make it over on Christmas. Lots of girls in the bars (& every where else) looking to drown their sorrows.

I ended going with a filipina DH that I meet at the bar while eating my lunch. Never even made it into the discos. Money was never discussed, could have been a freebie, but a 1000 HKD Chistmas gift was accepted.

Another notes: Box of 4 generic viagra 200 HKD. Real version 400 HKD. No problems, available at first pharmacy I tried.

2 hours Hotel Victoria, was around 250 HKD.

Bad part of the trip was I got a little seasick on the ferry ride over from Macau.

Colder weather meant less skin showing.

With some free time between my last meeting in HK (a long business lunch) and my evening flight back home, I decided to swing by Daily Spa ([URL]http://www.dailyspahk.com[/URL]) and try one of their Nuru Massage treatments.

The basics are pretty much as listed on their website, which stresses that sessions are 'appointment only' and list at HK $2,000 for 90 minutes. I texted Daily Spa on their mobile number (which also works in WhatsApp) and got a slot for 3 pm.

The trickiest part was finding the place, even when the taxi driver was given the address. Forget about any obvious signage like many other HK spas and what not: Daily Spa is on the 12th floor of a commercial block (the Tern Commercial building) at 39 Granville Road.

TST.

Granville Road runs between Nathan Road and Chatham Road, and is closer to the Chatham Road end, literally a minute's walk from Chatham Rd. As the Ramada Hotel is right on Chatham Road and has its driveway on Granville Road, the easiest way by taxi is to have the driver take you to the Ramada Hotel. To find the building itself, walk up Granville Road until you've got the Bossini, Maple and Cotton On stores all on one side. The Tern Commercial building is pretty much directly opposite.

I headed up to 1201 and 'Howard' (one of the two Daily Spa managers) buzzed me in, popped me into a room (they're very compact) and sent mid-20's Korean girl Mina in to attend to me. Mina is tall, slim, average looks.

First came a shower with Mina making sure I was as clean as can be. Then onto the the table for a regular (and so-so) massage. Then came the nuru part of the session, basically a slippery body side front and back (but in the reverse order) followed by covered BJ (average) and FS (decent). Then a shower to clean up, head out to pay Howard, and I'm done.

If that sounds like a 'short and sweet' review, then that's because I found the experience to be a bit underwhelming. Can't put my finger on 'why', exactly. I opted for this simply because I've not had Nuru before, and the videos you see online certainly look appealing. Maybe it was the small and rather warm room, maybe it was my expectations. Having crossed this of my 'to of' list, I honestly wouldn't bother going back next time I'm in HK.

I would really be very grateful if any of you wonderful folks could guide me to a suitable choice of a hotel in or around Wanchai.

I've RTFF a little bit and will continue doing so. Yet, since I land in HK tomorrow and stay for New Year, there isn't much time left.

I had tentatively set my eyes on Novotel Wanchai. Have had a fairly good experience staying (and mongering!) at other Novotel locations, especially Thailand. Right now its the most expensive among the hotel options available, so I was wondering if you might recommend any of the cheaper ones.

Cost is of course not my only concern / criterion.

The choice of Wanchai as the location to stay is no doubt guided by the mongering options nearby, yet there is also the fact that Times Square and New Year festivities would be close by.

Price wise, its not like there is a lot of difference. They are all fairly pricey, with Novotel working out to about 300 USD a night including taxes while the others would be between 200 and 250 USD a night.

Its still some saving and I might as well put the saved money to better use by mongering!

Apart from cost, I am looking at a Girl-friendly hotel (of course! (which I suppose most or all are), smoking-friendly (have had the terrible experience of staying in some hotels. Including Novotel's own Platinum Hotel above Platinum Mall in Pathunam, Bangkok which was completely non-smoking inside) and decent to good amenities, in a part of Wanchai from where, most attractions are not only close-by but ideally walking. And of course cost should not be compromised for safety or amenities in a big way. Even if I can get any place in the $150 - $200 USD range per night all inclusive, I would be quite happy!

Thank you!

[QUOTE=NaughtyVik;1661917]I would really be very grateful if any of you wonderful folks could guide me to a suitable choice of a hotel in or around Wanchai.

I've RTFF a little bit and will continue doing so. Yet, since I land in HK tomorrow and stay for New Year, there isn't much time left.

I had tentatively set my eyes on Novotel Wanchai. Have had a fairly good experience staying (and mongering!) at other Novotel locations, especially Thailand. Right now its the most expensive among the hotel options available, so I was wondering if you might recommend any of the cheaper ones.

Cost is of course not my only concern / criterion.

The choice of Wanchai as the location to stay is no doubt guided by the mongering options nearby, yet there is also the fact that Times Square and New Year festivities would be close by.

Price wise, its not like there is a lot of difference. They are all fairly pricey, with Novotel working out to about 300 USD a night including taxes while the others would be between 200 and 250 USD a night...[/QUOTE]The Wharney Guang Dong and The Fleming are in the center of the action in Wanchai. Compared to the Novotel they offer nicer rooms at a more reasonable price which should match your expected price range. Both hotels are girlfriendly. Check [URL]booking.com[/URL] for making the reservation.

Hello fellow ISG members,

I'm going to be in hk for the next two weeks. I've never mongered here in HK before and looking for someone to show me the ropes. If anyone is interested or have some insightful information let me know. Thanks in advance! Hope to hear from some of you soon.

[QUOTE=NaughtyVik;1661917]I would really be very grateful if any of you wonderful folks could guide me to a suitable choice of a hotel in or around Wanchai.

I've RTFF a little bit and will continue doing so. Yet, since I land in HK tomorrow and stay for New Year, there isn't much time left.

I had tentatively set my eyes on Novotel Wanchai. Have had a fairly good experience staying (and mongering!) at other Novotel locations, especially Thailand. Right now its the most expensive among the hotel options available, so I was wondering if you might recommend any of the cheaper ones.

Cost is of course not my only concern / criterion.

The choice of Wanchai as the location to stay is no doubt guided by the mongering options nearby, yet there is also the fact that Times Square and New Year festivities would be close by.

Price wise, its not like there is a lot of difference. They are all fairly pricey, with Novotel working out to about 300 USD a night including taxes while the others would be between 200 and 250 USD a night.

Its still some saving and I might as well put the saved money to better use by mongering!

Apart from cost, I am looking at a Girl-friendly hotel (of course! (which I suppose most or all are), smoking-friendly (have had the terrible experience of staying in some hotels. Including Novotel's own Platinum Hotel above Platinum Mall in Pathunam, Bangkok which was completely non-smoking inside) and decent to good amenities, in a part of Wanchai from where, most attractions are not only close-by but ideally walking. And of course cost should not be compromised for safety or amenities in a big way. Even if I can get any place in the $150 - $200 USD range per night all inclusive, I would be quite happy!

Thank you![/QUOTE]You may want to do a google search on Hong Kong hotel smoking. All other questions are no issue.

[QUOTE=NaughtyVik;1661917]I would really be very grateful if any of you wonderful folks could guide me to a suitable choice of a hotel in or around Wanchai.
I've RTFF a little bit and will continue doing so. Have had a fairly good experience staying (and mongering!) at other Novotel locations, especially Thailand.![/QUOTE]Only 2 previous reports despite "a fairly good experience staying (and mongering)"?

Anyway, as it's Christmas I will help by suggesting you try [URL]Booking.com[/URL] for your accommodation requirements. I use it regularly and it will provide many hotels in the area and all the details on costs etc. HK is expensive for hotel accommodation but you should find something in your price range. Suggest the Charterhouse or Cosmopolitan (the latter a bit out of the way) as they both allow smoking. All hotels are GF. You are also within walking distance of the bars etc.

Remember to report back!

[QUOTE=Tealife683;1662003]Hello fellow ISG members,

I'm going to be in hk for the next two weeks. I've never mongered here in HK before and looking for someone to show me the ropes. If anyone is interested or have some insightful information let me know. Thanks in advance! Hope to hear from some of you soon.[/QUOTE]You are in for a treat. HK is one of my favourite cities and I have been here 4-5 times per year since 2007. That said. HK is also expensive and the number of working girls (especially from the Philippines) has declined since 2007-2008. Very few young girls now. Most of them are 30-35, some over 40. The obvious reply to your post is that you should read the forum. It has a lot of information, but I will give you my own opinion. Mongering advise in Hong Kong depends on what you like. Personally I like to drink and party, listen to live bands, joke with the girls etc. To end the night I sometimes (usually) bring a girl to my hotel room if I find someone I like. Be prepared to pay 1500 - 3000 HKD for the night. This can be fun and Wanchai is the area to be in. The bars and clubs are within walking distance so this is were you should stay. Wanchai has nice bars like Amazonia (great live bands), Hong Kong Cafe, Escape, Neptune III, New Makati etc. All with working girls. The area also have regular bars with no (or less) WG's. It is a great area if you like to party. If you are looking for sex only it is much cheaper with the 141/ Walk ups,. They are everywhere in HK (read the form.). The sex is very mechanical and you will be one in a row of men. I have tried it but somehow did not feel it was a very fun experience. The price is 5-600 HKD depending on girl etc. If my memory is correct. On Sundays there is the domestic helpers (DH) day off. They party in Wanchai and fill up some of the bars. It can be a hit and miss but sometimes you will meet girls that are more than willing! The bars in Wanchai is a bit difficult to understand; sometimes they will be empty and sometimes they will be completely packed. For no obvious reasons. Try it out. You will have a great time!

Note there will be no New Year's festivities at Times Square.

Novotel is nicer than Whatney or Fleming, though it needs key card access to the lift. This is an issue for some.

I have read through the first number of pages but could really find anything on MPs. Most posts seems to be about pick up at clubs in Wanchai.

I'm going to be in HK for 1 day and wanted to find a MP for Nuru / HJ and FIV. Or if there is an outcall service that could work too. Any suggestions would be great.

Also, I checked out [URL]go141.com[/URL]. Any suggestions for finding a provider that will be comfortable with someone that can't speak the language (Cantonese or Mandarin). For the providers, do you just show up at the location noted or make an appointment?

[QUOTE=HereICome;1664068]I have read through the first number of pages but could really find anything on MPs...[/QUOTE]Look 8 posts back and you find what you are looking for. Flyboy 2000's report.

There is a whole section on craigs list. Therapeutic services. Lots of options there.

I'm late to this conversation but count me in among the guys who does not want a shaved pussy. I don't mind a certain amount of trimming but I don't like it bald and a distressing number of Asian girls, especially those who prefer white guys, have picked up the habit to shave it all off. Most disappointing.

[QUOTE=Weben;1657285]Having worked, lived and traveled nearly all over the world I am very aware of cultural differences. I find your example of Vietnam interesting as I lived there and had an amazing Viet girlfriend who was proud of the fact she had very little public hair (which was perfect). Maybe her view was like that because she was educated, wealthy and not from the countryside. Actually, I hooked up with a woman from District 8 who was more from the countryside and even she was nicely trimmed. Speaking of which, I was lucky to have my passport card as my passport was at my residence and you cannot get a hotel room without proper I'd and I it was too late to get back to my place from District 8 (so, remember you passport card fellas).

So, I have also had Chinese women with both nicely trimmed / shaved and very bushy ones. And these are not ABC (American born Chinese) women. I don't need completely bare, I just like to have a clear path and less obstruction when I DATY. Also, the Chinese women I have asked to shave / trim actually tend to find it more comfortable, continue with the grooming, and have told me they feel more attractive. And this is from one in particular who is very traditional Chinese. As you know, they have theories on wealth and success, or the adverse, based on attributes like the size of a woman's nose, large moles, small ankles, etc. But, that doesn't mean they all believe or follow every tradition or superstition; particularly in HK where many Chinese women desire the more western style customs.

And, along with learning to speak Mandarin and Vietnamese when I worked in those countries, being a history buff I am very aware of traditions and culture. In fact, I usually know more about the root or history of Asian traditions than some of the Chinese people I have meet. That is why I do generally get great service from 141 girls, even as a gwei lo, because I can hold a bit of a conversation if their English is not great.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Chantik;1654978]I must live in a different world. My phone is on silent during meetings. Wouldn't dream of answering a call. Gents need to be stronger with this issue.[/QUOTE]That's the way it should be. But you are a consummate professional, most WGs are not, to put it mildly.

[QUOTE=Weben;1654514]{SNIP} Otherwise, you can generally find some nice English speaking Filipino women for $1,000 - $1,500 located in decent hotels; which is worth the little extra money if you don't like showering while standing over a toilet.[/QUOTE]This is in HK? Why have I never heard of this?

It's sad, I used to frequent 37 D but haven't gone for months if not over a year. It's shit now.

[QUOTE=Topnotch100;1652552]I had a couple of friends telling me that 37 dundas has gone downhill so I didn't visit for a while. I finally decided to try it out again last week and this week and both times were terrible experiences. I mean what the hell happened? Learned my lesson. Will listen to my friends going forward.

So last week, I visited after a long time away. First of all, you can't see the ladies at all under the extremely dark lighting they have inside. The first 4-5 ladies they showed me were hideous so I turned them all away. I finally picked a girl. I can't remember her name. She was OK friendly in the intro room so I picked her. Anyway, we go upstairs and very quickly it became clear that she was trying to delay the session so that our time would ran out. Anyway, just as I was starting to fuck her, the clock ran out and she insisted that I pay up for extra time. Knowing this game, I immediately told her I'm leaving. Anyway. Didn't get to cum and I got dressed quickly and got the fuck out of there.

This week, I was in the area and thought I'd give 37 dundas another try. Thought maybe last week's girl was just a bad exception. After looking at 8 girls, I picked apple, the least bad looking of the 8. She was probably a 6 in the intro room. Once we got upstairs and she got out of her clothes, I felt like she was like a 3-4. Big face. Bad complexion. Belly hanging out. Her tits were her saving grace. Anyway, she was very unenthusiastic and didn't even feign her boredom, told her to just jerk me off and I left quickly afterward. So hope you bros don't come across this working girl. You are forewarned if you do.

This establishment is on its way out clearly. Save your time and money.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Tiger888;1664549]Look 8 posts back and you find what you are looking for. Flyboy 2000's report.[/QUOTE]Thanks. I did see that post, but it seems a little underwhelming based on the report. I looked at [URL]go141.com[/URL] and there are a bunch of providers that do massage. I'm not familiar with how things work in HK and am wondering if that would be a better option? Or are those ladies just FS?

[QUOTE=Chantik;1664550]There is a whole section on craigs list. Therapeutic services. Lots of options there.[/QUOTE]There are many listings on craigslist / backpage. Just wondering if anyone can point to a provider that is known to be really good. I have tried some outcall services in Shanghai and Taipei that didn't pan out so well. The provider wasn't into it and wanted to get out as quick as possible. Just trying to avoid that situation.

[QUOTE=HereICome;1664926]Thanks. I did see that post, but it seems a little underwhelming based on the report. I looked at [URL]go141.com[/URL] and there are a bunch of providers that do massage. I'm not familiar with how things work in HK and am wondering if that would be a better option? Or are those ladies just FS?

There are many listings on craigslist / backpage. Just wondering if anyone can point to a provider that is known to be really good. I have tried some outcall services in Shanghai and Taipei that didn't pan out so well. The provider wasn't into it and wanted to get out as quick as possible. Just trying to avoid that situation.[/QUOTE]I am a good provider. Some GENTS think so.

So has anyone tried the place I reviewed last month? The place located at the junction of Mong Kok street and Sai Yeung Choi St.

The entry is very similar to Dundas with pics of lovely girls in bikini.

I really would like to know the name.

[QUOTE=Chantik;1654978]I must live in a different world. My phone is on silent during meetings. Wouldn't dream of answering a call. Gents need to be stronger with this issue.[/QUOTE]Throughout my life, I have been interrupted by telephone calls. Many of the girls are more than willing to let you listen in on their conversation with their significant other. It can be quite interesting. I have actually asked some of the shyer girls to answer their calls after I am finished or as she / I continue to pump quietly because there are many jealous BFs who expect the girls to answer their phone calls ASAP, LOL. It can be quite exciting to keep quiet during those phone calls. Another challenge is to maintain concentration while driving in major city highway traffic while getting blown. But that is another story...

[QUOTE=Weben;1651946]So, even the casual non domestic helpers might expect something.[/QUOTE]Most of the local and non third world girls would not turn down benefits. Most of the girls on low paying working visas in HK would actually accept a lesser amount in cash. They are here to make and save money to send home.

On the question of shaving. I am beginning to enjoy shaven on the petite Asian girls. They have so little body hair so it just makes everything smooth and soft. In my younger days, most of the girls I knew were barely trimmed. The trimmed and shaven were mostly the model types who had time to groom. Then there were those hairier than I! LOL. I remember one greek girl and another german girl...

[QUOTE=AngeelK;1665216]I really would like to know the name.[/QUOTE]IMHO, try using Google street view. I use it a lot to guide people around on many locals around the world. You can avoid using a shared workspace so no one except the NSA is watching. LOL.

[QUOTE=Chantik;1665184]I am a good provider. Some GENTS think so.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=HereICome;1664926]I'm not familiar with how things work in HK and am wondering if that would be a better option? Or are those ladies just FS?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Chantik;1346915]Check me out on meetcantik. Com.

Thanks[/QUOTE]Sometimes people just do not RTFF or are SLOW on the pickup. So HereICome and the other one several posts back, Chantik advertises in the classified section and has met some senior posters who give her a "thumbs up" review. But alas, no pictures or full field reports. ;-( LOL.

[QUOTE=TeaLife683;1662003]Hello fellow ISG members,

I'm going to be in hk for the next two weeks. I've never mongered here in HK before and looking for someone to show me the ropes. If anyone is interested or have some insightful information let me know. Thanks in advance! Hope to hear from some of you soon.[/QUOTE]As "regular member" without private messages privileges I am not sure how to offer to connect while you are here.

When do you arrive?

[QUOTE=Chantik;1665184]I am a good provider. Some GENTS think so.[/QUOTE]I'll second that!

I have lots of full reviews but on different sites. ISG is more of an informal review site with a stronger focus on discussions and sharing of information. I noticed a few months ago that a separate REVIEW thread has been posted on ISG. Though no reviews yet.

[QUOTE=Boarer;1665498]IMHO, try using Google street view. I use it a lot to guide people around on many locals around the world. You can avoid using a shared workspace so no one except the NSA is watching. LOL.[/QUOTE]Yeah that was the first thing I did. But the image is not clear anyway.

Would be interesting to know if someone else has been there.

So a little online research led me to a very non-descript building in the center of Hk, I hoped woke up with a raging stiffy my first day in Hk and what to do about that at 9 am? Well I decided to give it a try. It's like 22 floors and apparently about 100 ladies live-work out of it.

I speak fairly poor Mandarin but I guess it's enough to get the point across. You will see any ladies that promoting herself with characters on her door for "good BJ" "nice service" etc sometimes you see an English word on there too. I just knocked on some doors, settled on a 16th floor lady from Shenzhen. She said she was 25, Shenzhen is mandarin speaking so that makes it easier for me, she pretty much speaks 0 English but I did see on her wall she or someone had printed up some English words "45 minutes to cum, etc" LOL. Some people say some ladies don't want western guys around, I didn't encounter any of that. As soon as we settled on the price she got on her knees and took out my cock.

She was really wet, creamy wet, not especially tight but her ass felt super tight. She told me her backdoor was too small for my cock, well thanks? LOL.

Fucked her in a few positions, pulled off the rubber, made sure to give her a mouthful of cum.

After that she asked where I was from, how did I know about Fuji, do I like Chinese girls (obviously) ha and if she can kiss me.

All in all, pretty fun experience. There are some good looking ladies located in there.

For your info about the Fuji Building.

Each girl has her own studio apt in which she bangs, the reasons are a HK law about how many hookers can be in a single dwelling (1).

Some girls have pages on 141 sex site.

There are both TW and PRC girls, I have heard Russians as well but I didn't check that out. The PRC women technically are some visit visa / blah blah, many of them can only do short visits or they try to stay under the radar for that reason they are looking to make as much as they can. So some might try to rush you OR you can def. Bargain with them. If you don't know Chinese numbers just do it on your phone.

If you don't know which girl you are viisting first, you can just take the lift up to 22 and work your way down. Do your bargaining AT the doorway, not inside.

The headline price is fixed. It says 500 and you pay 500 - Of course you can negotiate extra services on top of the headline price.

Did some research and been looking across 141 website for girl clusters across several floors for Hong Kong Island listings, on a just walk in basis and choose, easier that way, rather than appointments. There seem to be three cluster buildings.

Sheung Wan offers; "Hing Loong Building".

Causeway Bay offers; "Fuji Building" and "Phoenix Apartments. ".

These are the buildings where pussy is available most readily across various floors, it seems to be really kicking off in these buildings. Myself I have done Fuji and Phoenix. Have to be careful where you go, some 141 buildings pussy is rarer than hens teeth. The above should assist fellow punters. Especially westerners with little or no Chinese. No problem.

The correct etiquette on seeing another monger in the corridor, don't know, just a quick acknowledgement then look away, and politely leave him be. If its your boss, really don't know. Sometimes no other mongers, sometimes a few pacing all hot and horny, heavy ball sacks and erections straining, needing release. Depends on the time of day I guess.

[QUOTE=Redcurry;1667876]So a little online research led me to a very non-descript building in the center of Hk, I hoped woke up with a raging stiffy my first day in Hk and what to do about that at 9 am? Well I decided to give it a try. It's like 22 floors and apparently about 100 ladies live-work out of it.

I speak fairly poor Mandarin but I guess it's enough to get the point across. You will see any ladies that promoting herself with characters on her door for "good BJ" "nice service" etc sometimes you see an English word on there too. I just knocked on some doors, settled on a 16th floor lady from Shenzhen. She said she was 25, Shenzhen is mandarin speaking so that makes it easier for me, she pretty much speaks 0 English but I did see on her wall she or someone had printed up some English words "45 minutes to cum, etc" LOL. Some people say some ladies don't want western guys around, I didn't encounter any of that. As soon as we settled on the price she got on her knees and took out my cock.

She was really wet, creamy wet, not especially tight but her ass felt super tight. She told me her backdoor was too small for my cock, well thanks? LOL.

Fucked her in a few positions, pulled off the rubber, made sure to give her a mouthful of cum.

After that she asked where I was from, how did I know about Fuji, do I like Chinese girls (obviously) ha and if she can kiss me.

All in all, pretty fun experience. There are some good looking ladies located in there.

For your info about the Fuji Building.

Each girl has her own studio apt in which she bangs, the reasons are a HK law about how many hookers can be in a single dwelling (1).

Some girls have pages on 141 sex site.

There are both TW and PRC girls, I have heard Russians as well but I didn't check that out. The PRC women technically are some visit visa / blah blah, many of them can only do short visits or they try to stay under the radar for that reason they are looking to make as much as they can. So some might try to rush you OR you can def. Bargain with them. If you don't know Chinese numbers just do it on your phone.

If you don't know which girl you are viisting first, you can just take the lift up to 22 and work your way down. Do your bargaining AT the doorway, not inside.[/QUOTE]Could not agree more, only go inside if you intend to stay. My naive experience in Electric Road taught me this rule. Door opens, chick hiding behind door, dumbass me walks straight in, chick grabs me and gives me a big hug and kiss. I then realise she resembles a hat full of arseholes. Literally. So I say no thanks and head for the door. She blocks my way and points to an english sign on wall. "any body contact means booking has started and all money must be paid" fucking bigtime scam. I have to think fast. Turn away from door and reach for my wallet. She leaves door to collect cash. I bolt for the door and out of there down the hall down the steps and out of there. Kept checking that no heavies were following and jumped on a tram for Wanchai. Tried other buildings by waiting at open door for chick to show herself and agree on service and financials. No more problems and most of these chicks give great service. Love HK.

[QUOTE=BeachBoy46;1668334]Could not agree more, only go inside if you intend to stay. My naive experience in Electric Road taught me this rule. Door opens, chick hiding behind door, dumbass me walks straight in, chick grabs me and gives me a big hug and kiss. I then realise she resembles a hat full of arseholes. Literally. So I say no thanks and head for the door. She blocks my way and points to an english sign on wall. "any body contact means booking has started and all money must be paid" fucking bigtime scam. I have to think fast. Turn away from door and reach for my wallet. She leaves door to collect cash. I bolt for the door and out of there down the hall down the steps and out of there. Kept checking that no heavies were following and jumped on a tram for Wanchai. Tried other buildings by waiting at open door for chick to show herself and agree on service and financials. No more problems and most of these chicks give great service. Love HK.[/QUOTE]Yea, I read something online from a Chinese monger saying "do not enter the doorway if you do not want to seal the deal" basically. The apt walk ups are a great feature but yea especially for westerners I think the "enter and agreed to the price" thing is worrying. I think more are scared / shy about talking while Local dudes are mongering. But I just got that "Hey White people know about this place too?" look out of HK / Chinese guys.

My first visit to the Fuji building got a curious smile and look from a local dude when he saw the lady behind the door like.

I think alot of visitors in HK literally have NO idea how much pussy is for sale. Capitalism!

Went out by Kowloon, Mong Kok to just stroll around but saw a few pretty Indonesian girls and walked up to them and said Hi, selamat, etc. We all got to chatting about why I know 6 words in Indonesian LOL and I said I have traveled there, blah blah. Well I was most interested in one particular lady, small with an ass on her with nice jet black hair, one had a hair wrap but that doesn't necessary mean anything in my Indo / Malay experience. I asked her if she wanted to go to lunch and coffee with me, she looked pretty genuinely surprised. She asked if her friends can come with us, I said sure (boner killer at the time). So we went to Pacific coffee or whatever downstairs in the hotel mall and chatted for who knows how long. At some point all three of them went to the restroom and when they returned the one I was into said "my friends are going to TST to meet with some other Indos". So I guess I passed whatever test I was subjected too.

We went to grab lunch, went to a Turkish place in Wanchai area because 1. Halal 2. Nearer to my hotel (obviously the important part). We chit chatted and walked around, she asked me where I stay and I said over there, nice view very high. She said "really?" and I said sure. So off we went.

Once we got in the room, the outside 1 foot shyness barrier, she was not too shy in the room, she hugged me and I instantly felt her booty in her jeans. She did that annoying Asian girl thing where as soon as you get into it, hands up the shirt they said "I want to use the shower".

She came out in the towel and I did a 5 second cock shower and wham it was on. She told me I was her first "bule"(foreigner) who knows but she seemed to really like my sausage haha. We fucked like mad for about 3 hours, I have fucked a lot of Chinese, Thai, Filipinas (used to live in China and Thailand and love the Phils) but every Indo I have played with has been a red hot fuck even if they were a complainer LOL. I blew 3 loads 2 all over her face / mouth, 1 on her delicious full ass. I really would have loved to sample her asshole but she was not too keen on that idea.

The subject of money never came up and I was pretty unsure if she wanted money or just wanted some dick. When she was ready to rejoin her friends, I decided hey she was a really nice girl and super mouth / pussy on her, I put 500 HKD in her bag and some little pack of Godiva chocolates I got as a work gift as well.

She txt'd me later and said Thank you for everything, my friends and I loved the chocolates. I am fairly sure I could have JUST given her the chocolates but hey I was happy to make a hard working young lady in HK happy.

[QUOTE=DirtyHog;1668246]Did some research and been looking across 141 website for girl clusters across several floors for Hong Kong Island listings, on a just walk in basis and choose, easier that way, rather than appointments. There seem to be three cluster buildings.

Sheung Wan offers; "Hing Loong Building".

Causeway Bay offers; "Fuji Building" and "Phoenix Apartments. ".[/QUOTE]There are more than just three of these walk-up buildings on HK Island. The easiest way to find all of them is just to open up the 141 site and click on the particular neighborhood you want to explore. For example, click on Sheung Wan and you'll see that there are numerous walk-up buildings, not just the Hing Loong.

Similarly, Causeway Bay has more than just the Fuji and Phoenix buildings, though those might have the most girls.

Other neighborhoods have them too. HK Island (and Kowloon too) is loaded with these places.

[QUOTE=Runon99;1668442]There are more than just three of these walk-up buildings on HK Island. The easiest way to find all of them is just to open up the 141 site and click on the particular neighborhood you want to explore. For example, click on Sheung Wan and you'll see that there are numerous walk-up buildings, not just the Hing Loong.

Similarly, Causeway Bay has more than just the Fuji and Phoenix buildings, though those might have the most girls.

Other neighborhoods have them too. HK Island (and Kowloon too) is loaded with these places.[/QUOTE]I went through all buildings in each neighbourhood, I noted the buildings with most girls, that was what I wanted to show. Myself, I have also visited other buildings also.

Had anyone ever opted for the high class model option on 141? Couldn't find anything I the forum about it. Just curious if it's even close to being worth it.

[QUOTE=NoodleMan8;1669428]Had anyone ever opted for the high class model option on 141? Couldn't find anything I the forum about it. Just curious if it's even close to being worth it.[/QUOTE]Need to be a hit more specific, Russians, Japanese, Koreans, local girls, or mainland girls? I tried the Japanese variety and many of them are fake.

[QUOTE=Lefeu;1669576]Need to be a hit more specific, Russians, Japanese, Koreans, local girls, or mainland girls? I tried the Japanese variety and many of them are fake.[/QUOTE]I believe the one I saw had no photo, just stated Japanese. Figured it'd be a better option to save the cash and find something for a better price at the bar where at least you know what you're getting in advance.

Speaking of 141, I noticed that all of the ads for Outcall Massage say *non sexual service* -- on the Sex 141 site. What's up with that?

Is there some legal reason for making this claim for outcalls or are all of these ads featuring pictures of sexy girls truly non-sexual? Or is this a way to upsell once they're in the room?

I'm flying into HK in a couple weeks and it will be pretty late by the time I've arrived and gotten situated at my hotel. A nice massage there might help me relax after the long trip from the USA, but I wouldn't be as relaxed if it's completely non-sexual.

I'm aware of at least one outcall service, though I haven't tried it. It's [URL]http://www.hongkonghotelescort.com/home[/URL] which seems to be affiliated with [URL]http://www.dailyspahk.com/home[/URL] which has received mixed reviews here.

[QUOTE=Shedrain;1655924]Is there consensus that K pressure and dundas isn't very good? I am in my early 20's looking to go on crazy spree and I don't think it can do too old or bigger ladies. First time in Hong Kong. Any suggestion where to go or what my best options are? I can speak fluent English and Cantonese, but unable to read Chinese so not sure if 141 is a good choice. Any advice for a fellow newbie would be greatly appreciated.[/QUOTE]If you are 20 something you should forget about massage places in Hong Kong. That part you can try later in life in Macao, Bangkok and many other cities were the quality and variety is much better. Open your eyes instead to this wonderful city: explore bars in Mody Road area of Kowloon, walk towards Granville Road and you will see interesting bars with a younger HK crowd. Check out Knutsford Terasse for more bars and outdoor restaurants. On Hong Kong Island check out Lan Kwai Fong for the pubs, bars and upscale discos. Walk to SOHO and areas like Staunton St. And Hollywood St. This is not pick-up area but you can meet lots of young people and a mixed crowd. For bars and clubs with freelancers (and real pick-up joints!) go to Wan Chai. Avoid the places with a curtain in the door. The choices are endless and the diversity in HK will surprise you. 141 system has young ladies but if I were you I would wait until passed 40. Have fun in the regular bars and discos first. No problem to go alone. You will soon make friends. People are normally friendly and HK is generally safe. I just love HK for what is on the plate here almost around the clock. This city never sleeps. If you know were to go.

I want to do a Southern China trip the last two weeks of February during new year. I work in Vietnam, so my salary isn't great and I'm worried about sticker shock in Hong Kong and Macau. I just returned from BKK where I couldn't believe a Guinness draught was $10 and brown skinned farm girls were asking 3000 baht for short time.

My main intention here is not to monger but to see if I'd like to live in Shenzhen in the future while checking out Macau and Hong Kong. It seems doable using Hong Kong as my entry and exit. I have a multiple visa for China already.

Can anyone give me some advise on kind of an itinerary? How should I do this? Hong Kong- Shenzhen. Hong Kong- Macau-Hong Kong? Can I go straight from Shenzhen to Macau and back? I don't want to use too many pages in my passport as I know the Hong Kong stamp is so big too. I don't know. I do plan to taking a girl in each country, and I'm over 40 so I was thinking avoid the pick up game and doing 141 or something. Although I've made some friends on Wechat. Indo maids in HK and chinese girls in SZ. At least I can make some friends and maybe more.

A. T.

[QUOTE=AmericanThief;1670125]...Hong Kong- Shenzhen. Hong Kong- Macau-Hong Kong? Can I go straight from Shenzhen to Macau and back? I don't want to use too many pages in my passport as I know the Hong Kong stamp is so big too...[/QUOTE]No more stamps into the passport in Hk and Macau. Only China. From Shenzhen to Macau or Zhuhai either by ferry (from Shekou) or through Hong Kong. If you have the choice, I consider Zhuhai a much better place to live than Shenzhen.

Hong Kong and Macau do put an ink stamp, right, not a full page stamp like my communist visas, but the Hong Kong ink stamp? Thanks for the tip on Zhuhai.

[QUOTE=AmericanThief;1670583]Hong Kong and Macau do put an ink stamp...[/QUOTE]Please read again what I wrote last night. There are no more ink stamps in HK and Macau. You just get a small computer printout to put into your passport. You can throw it away after you have left, absolutely no traces to be seen and no space wasted.

[QUOTE=Tiger888;1670738]Please read again what I wrote last night. There are no more ink stamps in HK and Macau. You just get a small computer printout to put into your passport. You can throw it away after you have left, absolutely no traces to be seen and no space wasted.[/QUOTE]I read it again Tiger 888. Thanks for your help.

Reported in today's South China Morning Post:

[quote]Police have closed a website that offered its 90,000 members nude photographs, including of [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord902][CodeWord902][/url] girls, and connected them to women involved in so-called compensated dating.

Set up by a vice gang in 2011, the website brought in more than HK $1.2 million a year, one police investigator said.

Over the past two days, officers arrested its alleged ringleader, his girlfriend and five other people and seized a computer server allegedly used to store pornographic photos, along with the details of 50 women involved in compensated dating. A disguised form of prostitution.

The alleged mastermind, 31, is understood to work full-time as an IT technician.

Chief Inspector Cheng Dien-kit, of Kowloon West regional crime unit, said police froze HK $1.7 million, believed to be the proceeds of crime, in two bank accounts linked to the syndicate.

Investigations began in July last year as the website grew in popularity; it claimed to have 90,000 members.

Membership was free, but members could purchase tokens to download pornographic images of women, including [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord902][CodeWord902][/url] girls. Officers are investigating the source of the pictures.

"They were also lured into paying HK $550 as an annual membership fee. In return, they would be given access to the details of women involved in compensated dating on the website," Cheng said. "Those who paid HK $8,000 as a permanent membership fee could view the photographs and have the contact numbers of the women via the site so that they could call the women directly. "

The women involved in compensated dating were said to be in their 20's and charged more than HK $1,000 for sex.

Cheng believed thousands of people paid for membership.

This week's raids on more than 10 locations across the city followed months of investigations by Kowloon West officers.

Separately, police arrested two men and one woman on suspicion of luring young women for vice activities through smartphone apps in the name of compensated dating. An undercover policewoman is understood to have helped uncover the case.

The suspects in both cases were arrested on suspicion of living off the earnings of prostitution, soliciting for immoral purposes, money laundering and publishing indecent articles. They will be released on bail pending further investigation.[/quote][URL]http://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/article/1680301/hong-kong-prostitution-and-porn-website-closed-down-police[/URL]

I frequent HK for business, and although I have done the 141 buildings and some of the massage places, I find that going to places like All Night Long, Insomnia and the like are just as easy to score. And relatively free! I shall give my experience.

It was about midnight on a Friday night\Saturday Morning. I was just laying in my room flipping through tv and was bored. I decided to throw some clothes on and walk around Kowloon for a bit. I figured I would just grab a snack and maybe a drink so I head to Knutsford Terrace. None of the little restaurants are jumping out at me so I walk all the way to the end and see that All Night Long is packed. Intrigued I walked in and ordered a beer. The place was packed with Ex-pats and locals. I made my way through a sea of people to the back bar. They had a cover band playing that was not bad. After a while the band took a break. A DJ now starts playing hip hop and the dance floor starts to get packed. I am not much of a dancer so I hang back, well that lasted all of about 60 seconds. An insanely cute local girl does a little half ass sign language asking me to dance with her. How could I say no. I hit the floor and the next thing I know this girl is grinding on me to every song for the next half hour.

The band returns to stage and we leave the dance floor. I ask to buy her a drink, she asks for a glass of red wine, I get a whisky. We sit there drinking and listening to the band. After a while, I put my arm around her and she puts her head on my shoulder. I ask if she wants another drink, she says, No lets go. I thought lets go? Go where? We swim through the sea of people towards the door. Once we make it outside, she attacks me and we start making out like two teenagers. I ask if she wants to come back to my place. At the time I was in country for about a month staying in a service apartment between Jordan and Mong kok. I ask if she wants to walk, she says yes. As we walk, every "do not walk" sign affords us the opportunity to make out and feel each other up. We make it to my apartment. It was some of the most wild porn star like sex I have ever had.

After, we both fall asleep. When I wake up, she is already getting dressed. I ask if she wants breakfast, and she declined and said she has to go. She gathers her things and leaves. I sat in bed scratching my head. What the fuck just happened? Immediately I thought, shit!, she robbed me. I checked my belongings and everything was there, wallet. Everything in check. What did this girl get out of our interchange? I suppose she got exactly the same thing I got out of it. After that experience, I realized that a lot of these local girls have sex drive that ravenous. When I am in HK, I became bolder, I stopped beating around the Bush, I came out and just said what I wanted. That seemed to work 90% of the time. 9 out of 10 times I went into a club, I had a cute girl come home with me. I even fingered a girl that I met on the island while we were on the MTR to TST. But that's a whole other story.

My ultimate point is p4 p is all fine and dandy, but I think sometimes its fun to go on a real safari and tag your game.

Sorry for the long story, some of the gentlemen in the Dominican Republic forum really like my stories and encouraged me to share more.

I am able to log on to the website just now but I am in the US now.

Fast eddie 48.

[QUOTE=JayBalanty;1672698]I frequent HK for business, and although I have done the 141 buildings and some of the massage places, I find that going to places like All Night Long, Insomnia and the like are just as easy to score. And relatively free! I shall give my experience.

It was about midnight on a Friday night\Saturday Morning. I was just laying in my room flipping through tv and was bored. I decided to throw some clothes on and walk around Kowloon for a bit. I figured I would just grab a snack and maybe a drink so I head to Knutsford Terrace. None of the little restaurants are jumping out at me so I walk all the way to the end and see that All Night Long is packed. Intrigued I walked in and ordered a beer. The place was packed with Ex-pats and locals. I made my way through a sea of people to the back bar. They had a cover band playing that was not bad. After a while the band took a break. A DJ now starts playing hip hop and the dance floor starts to get packed. I am not much of a dancer so I hang back, well that lasted all of about 60 seconds. An insanely cute local girl does a little half ass sign language asking me to dance with her. How could I say no. I hit the floor and the next thing I know this girl is grinding on me to every song for the next half hour.

The band returns to stage and we leave the dance floor. I ask to buy her a drink, she asks for a glass of red wine, I get a whisky. We sit there drinking and listening to the band. After a while, I put my arm around her and she puts her head on my shoulder. I ask if she wants another drink, she says, No lets go. I thought lets go? Go where? We swim through the sea of people towards the door. Once we make it outside, she attacks me and we start making out like two teenagers. I ask if she wants to come back to my place. At the time I was in country for about a month staying in a service apartment between Jordan and Mong kok. I ask if she wants to walk, she says yes. As we walk, every "do not walk" sign affords us the opportunity to make out and feel each other up. We make it to my apartment. It was some of the most wild porn star like sex I have ever had.

After, we both fall asleep. When I wake up, she is already getting dressed. I ask if she wants breakfast, and she declined and said she has to go. She gathers her things and leaves. I sat in bed scratching my head. What the fuck just happened? Immediately I thought, shit!, she robbed me. I checked my belongings and everything was there, wallet. Everything in check. What did this girl get out of our interchange? I suppose she got exactly the same thing I got out of it. After that experience, I realized that a lot of these local girls have sex drive that ravenous. When I am in HK, I became bolder, I stopped beating around the Bush, I came out and just said what I wanted. That seemed to work 90% of the time. 9 out of 10 times I went into a club, I had a cute girl come home with me. I even fingered a girl that I met on the island while we were on the MTR to TST. But that's a whole other story.

My ultimate point is p4 p is all fine and dandy, but I think sometimes its fun to go on a real safari and tag your game.

Sorry for the long story, some of the gentlemen in the Dominican Republic forum really like my stories and encouraged me to share more.[/QUOTE]Re: your last sentence, no need to apologize!

I enjoyed your story and look forward to reading the "fingering-in-the-MTR" story one day. I have a similar story that occurred on a Greyhound bus night ride from San Diego to LA, but that's obviously for a different forum.

Word of warning to gents. Been advised by a couple of GENTS to be careful of the streetwalkers around Nathan Road. Particularly around Sheraton and Holiday Inn. Apparently the ladies will offer to come to the gents room for $500 - Once back in the room the $500 becomes a lot more. Have been cases where the ladies call in minders.

[QUOTE=Chantik;1675791]Word of warning to gents. Been advised by a couple of GENTS to be careful of the streetwalkers around Nathan Road. Particularly around Sheraton and Holiday Inn. Apparently the ladies will offer to come to the gents room for $500 - Once back in the room the $500 becomes a lot more. Have been cases where the ladies call in minders.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the heads up Chantik. When I'm next in Hong Kong I will be booking you exclusively.

[QUOTE=Chantik;1675791]Particularly around Sheraton and Holiday Inn.[/QUOTE]Also.

[URL]http://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/article/1694898/hong-kong-police-arrest-six-african-asylum-seekers-seize-illegal[/URL]

Hi all,

Regular contributor to the forum here, currently planning my first trip to Hong Kong. I have gone back 100 pages on this forum and found lots of really useful information. The cost of Wanchai has put me off. Not that I'm a 'cheap charlie' but later in my trip I will be in Philippines, meeting girls for a fraction of the price. So instead I will be concentrating most of my efforts on the 141 apartment blocks which sound pretty exciting. I have two questions.

1. Pre-booking 141 girls.

I noticed that some of the girls on the 141 website don't have their address / apartment number listed, instead you must pre-book them via their number. Reading various reports, it seems that if I call the number I will speak to the girls 'agent' who will tell me where to meet. In which case my question is, when is it recommended to book? The day before? A few hours before?

2. 'Walking Tours' of the 141 girls.

I love the idea of finding some of the bigger apartment blocks and wandering from floor to floor, looking at the photos and knocking on doors. So my questions is (and I know this is similar to DirtyHog's question recently), bearing in mind I plan to visit 4 or 5 times, which are the must-visits in terms of quantity and quality of girls. Fuji seems top of my list but which others? I'd like to visit at least three separate apartment blocks. Please note I'm not just after the name of the apartment but the address too so I can find it. The ones I found on this forum are listed below and as you can see some didn't have addresses included:

- Fuji Building (381 Lockhart Rd, Causeway Bay).

- Phoenix Apt (Causeway Bay, nr Fuji. Halfway between Times Sq & Lee Garden).

- Sham Shui Po (Walk around a couple of blocks and of MTR station and look for yellow signs at apt buildings).

- Southern Building, 257-273 King's Road.

- 105-107 Queens Road East. Just SW of Wan Chai.

- 123 Bonham Strand.

- Coronet Court, North Point.

- James Lee building, Tsim Sha Tsui.

Thanks in advance for any help. I will post a lengthy diary of my experiences in Hong Kong.

SL:

On pre-booking, I would say a few hours is enough, unless the girl is in high demand, or you want a specific time slot. In which case, the sooner the better, but same day. Also, keep in mind that some of the bookers have a heavy accent and they are difficult to understand. So, make sure you have them text you the name of the hotel. Then you need to find out where the hotel is and how to get there.

On walking apartments: I only did Fuji and Hop Yee and liked them both. However, they are not marked building, hence not easy to find. Use the address, with Apt number, and find the building. Keep in mind, there are regular folks living there as well. But it's well worth it. The girls are mostly from the PRC and they are honest and friendly. I don't speak any Chinese, yet I had a good time. I liked the girls work ethic and I was treated nicely.

[QUOTE=SirLancelot;1676805]Hi all,
I have two questions.
1. Pre-booking 141 girls.
The day before? A few hours before?
2. 'Walking Tours' of the 141 girls.
[/QUOTE]There is a forum on 141 that has extensive details on both pre and walk girls. There's a hardcore group of posters who are pretty helpful.

I've never pre-booked (walk-ins) but the forum suggests be prepared for either long wait for the popular ones or some minor bait / switch (not always from good to bad though! You might want to check the forum upon arrival to see the "flavor of the week" postings as the girls usually stay for 7-10 days only.

Your list of walk-ups is accurate and as always its YMMV, depending on time and day. You would be surprised how busy some of the popular spots are, eg Fuji. But there's a plethora of choices.

Enjoy!

Hey guys,

From the 141 site, I don't understand what these mean: part time buddies, Thai healthcare and honey girls. What's the difference between them? Also, the rates that are posted on the 141 site. Is that what I am expected to pay? Are there any up sells or alternatively, room for haggling?

Thanks!

[QUOTE=NoodleMan8;1669428]Had anyone ever opted for the high class model option on 141? Couldn't find anything I the forum about it. Just curious if it's even close to being worth it.[/QUOTE]I tried it a few times. Tried the Japanese "Young buddies" in TST. Total waste of time. The crazy mamasan made me wait for 1 hour just to bring me to some late 30's supposedly Japanese women, I left in the end.

I tried the hotel booking in North Point. Again they make you wait. Ended up in a North Point hotel the women that are advertised are not available, but some quite decent Mainland Chinese to pick from for 800 HKD damage.

From what was written in the Forum the "Young Buddies" refers to some direct translation of the Chinese term.

Let me know if you have better luck.

[QUOTE=QuickPot;1677329]Hey guys,

From the 141 site, I don't understand what these mean: part time buddies, Thai healthcare and honey girls. What's the difference between them? Also, the rates that are posted on the 141 site. Is that what I am expected to pay? Are there any up sells or alternatively, room for haggling?

Thanks![/QUOTE]Regarding the posted 141 rates: from my experience, there's little or no room for haggling, as the price list is usually pretty specific about what the cost is for each specific service. On the other hand, for those ladies who have a specific price list, there's usually no up-selling as well, although a desperate girl may try.

141 - prices are fixed. Absolutely no haggling. In some cases you can ask for extras but will pay more.

[QUOTE=MightySpearsman;1677386]Regarding the posted 141 rates: from my experience, there's little or no room for haggling, as the price list is usually pretty specific about what the cost is for each specific service. On the other hand, for those ladies who have a specific price list, there's usually no up-selling as well, although a desperate girl may try.[/QUOTE]I've been trawling the 141 website extensively over the past few days. I'm presuming that 'whole service' = sex. It might seem a daft question but I notice that some girls have 'whole service' and then a more expensive 'special service'. If so, seems to be lots of great bodies with blurry faces available for reasonable prices!

Incidentally, following on from my previous post, I like the idea of visiting a big apartment block and wandering from floor to floor speculatively, so I've started to draw up a list of apartment blocks that seem to have lots of girls on various floors.

Causeway Bay.

- Fuji Building, 381-383 Lockhart Road, Causeway Bay.

- Phoenix Apartment, 54-70 Lee Garden Road, Causeway Bay.

Kowloon / Tsim Sha Tsui area.

- King Hing Building, 52-54 Argyle Street, Mong Kok.

- James S. Lee Mansion, 33-35 Carnavon Road, Tsim Sha Tsui.

- 116-118 Fa Yuen St, Mong Kok (MTR Exit B2).

- 56-58 Lai Chi Kok Road, Prince Edward (MTR Exit C2).

- Foremost Building, 19-21 Jordan Road, Jordan (MTR Exit A) floors 15,14,13,12,10,9,7,6,5,4,3.

- 66 Parkes St, Jordan (MTR Exit A) - floors 5,2,1.

I was in Hong Kong visiting some friends before the holidays, and I made sure to have a free Sunday afternoon during my stay, as Sunday in Wanchai is the best time to meet Indo maids on their day off.

Some of the clubs don't open in the afternoon anymore, so I went to Bar 109, happily invited to step in by a couple of cute Indo girls in sexy shorts outside. I walked slowly through the whole place, not too dark which I prefer so I could check on the girls, many of whom were vying for my attention. I smiled away but continued my search until my eyes landed on a super cute girl: she was wearing a glittery headband so I told her she looked like a princess. She was from Jakarta. She danced as we spoke, rubbing herself on me, so sexy, wearing a green fluo miniskirt, a black bra, high heels. I bought her a drink and asked her if we could go somewhere.

She took me to the Ming Court hotel, next door, for "short time": 300 HK $ for the room, 1,500 for her (US $200).

She washed me in the shower, gave me a BBBJ preview, and we hopped on the bed. As I was licking her shaved pussy, I asked her if she liked girls. She smiled and said "Lesbian? Yes!" She said she could ask her friend from the bar to join us. I said sure! An extra 120 for the room, 950 for her friend and the deal was made.

I licked her juicy pussy while her friend showered, then went DATY on her friend, who enjoyed every tongue twist to an O. Then we did the train, one in front, one on my dick from the back, doggy, top, all BBFS, double BBBJ, CIM. * Wow.

I find Indonesians more adventurous than the Thai or The Filipinas.

Sadly my free time in HK was limited and we couldn't hook up before I left, but I know have sweet memories for Sunday blues.

[QUOTE=Leche;1677795]...but I know have sweet memories for Sunday blues.[/QUOTE]And you left a sour taste by heavily overpaying. I hope this doesn't become the rule soon.

[QUOTE=Leche;1677795]She took me to the Ming Court hotel, next door, for "short time": 300 HK $ for the room, 1,500 for her (US $200).
She said she could ask her friend from the bar to join us. I said sure! An extra 120 for the room, 950 for her friend and the deal was made..[/QUOTE]At these rates she will be giving up her DH job!

Hope she is not about when I arrive next month.

[QUOTE=Leche;1677795]I was in Hong Kong visiting some friends before the holidays, and I made sure to have a free Sunday afternoon during my stay, as Sunday in Wanchai is the best time to meet Indo maids on their day off.



She took me to the Ming Court hotel, next door, for "short time": 300 HK $ for the room, 1,500 for her (US $200).

She washed me in the shower, gave me a BBBJ preview, and we hopped on the bed. As I was licking her shaved pussy, I asked her if she liked girls. She smiled and said "Lesbian? Yes!" She said she could ask her friend from the bar to join us. I said sure! An extra 120 for the room, 950 for her friend and the deal was made.



I find Indonesians more adventurous than the Thai or The Filipinas.

.[/QUOTE]If you enjoyed, then that's good. But HK $ 3,000 for a bit of afternoon delight seems pricey. There was many a Sunday in the Laguna of yesteryear, or New Makati when the afternoon delight was free or at most a HK $ 500 for an extremely enthusiastic Indonesian. I'm fairly sure they still exist as the numbers of Indonesians grow each year and they certainly don't all expect such hefty recompense.

[QUOTE=FreebieFan;1678190]. I'm fairly sure they still exist as the numbers of Indonesians grow each year and they certainly don't all expect such hefty recompense.[/QUOTE]I think, and hope, you are right. Never been asked up front yet by a DH for money, although I agree $500 is a nice wee "gift" for them which is usually well received.

Can't wait to confirm or otherwise next month!

Have advised the GENTS that the standard 500 is harder to find. Have heard with my ears DH asking for 2000. Think this happens for 2 reasons. DH always ask more if they know you are from overseas. Second all Indoniesian WL tell their friends they get 2000 - So some DH think they can get the same.

[QUOTE=Chantik;1678283]Have advised the GENTS that the standard 500 is harder to find. Have heard with my ears DH asking for 2000. Think this happens for 2 reasons. DH always ask more if they know you are from overseas. Second all Indoniesian WL tell their friends they get 2000 - So some DH think they can get the same.[/QUOTE]And the more fools pay that the faster it will become the rule.

[QUOTE=Tiger888;1678300]And the more fools pay that the faster it will become the rule.[/QUOTE]I've made many visits to HK, and I've spent plenty in Wan Chai for drinks and entertainments. Since my trips were always mid-week, I have never had the chance to sample the DH's in HK. But I will be in HK this Sunday, and I'm going to try out the DH. I'm glad to see that 500 is a reasonable rate. I'll certainly not over pay! Any advice / suggestions on the best place to find my first Indo DH? Are any of the clubs better than others in Wan Chai for this?

Thanks. And I'll report back with my results!

JS

[QUOTE=Tiger888;1678300]And the more fools pay that the faster it will become the rule.[/QUOTE]But its like anywhere in the world. Local knowledge is so helpful. Gents who live in HK get to know the girls, build up trust with the girls and of course can be patient. That's where the 500 comes. Whereas gents who are visiting don't have time to hunt for ladies and these gents are seen as a soft sell.

I wouldn't be telling non-based HK guys about the DH scene. I would keep it a secret.

Many girls could be having brisk business, $500 hkd, but it seems they sit around and get no business or only one or two of them get chosen. They keep trying very high one off rates. There seems to be an unofficial agreement that they don't want to under cut each other. Strange the way the market works in Lockhart.

[QUOTE=Chantik;1678704]...I wouldn't be telling non-based HK guys about the DH scene. I would keep it a secret.[/QUOTE]Certainly. The big advantage of Hong Kong and why it remains so unique is that hotels are expensive enough to keep the p4 p crowds away. Places like Thailand are long spoiled to an extend that I consider them no fun anymore.

[QUOTE=DirtyHog;1678712]Many girls could be having brisk business, $500 hkd, but it seems they sit around and get no business or only one or two of them get chosen. They keep trying very high one off rates. There seems to be an unofficial agreement that they don't want to under cut each other. Strange the way the market works in Lockhart.[/QUOTE]Ere.

We were discussing DH's. Think you are discussing full time W / L. Wanchai is not the place if you want to pay $500 for a lady of the night.

UK is starting to look good value in comparison with HK.

UK has always been good value for punting, especially in Europe.

Where is a cool place to stay? I know transport in HK is very good so I'm open to cool areas not just for mongering because I don't mind taking MRT.

[QUOTE=AmericanThief;1670125]I want to do a Southern China trip the last two weeks of February during new year. I work in Vietnam, so my salary isn't great and I'm worried about sticker shock in Hong Kong and Macau. I just returned from BKK where I couldn't believe a Guinness draught was $10 and brown skinned farm girls were asking 3000 baht for short time.

My main intention here is not to monger but to see if I'd like to live in Shenzhen in the future while checking out Macau and Hong Kong. It seems doable using Hong Kong as my entry and exit. I have a multiple visa for China already.

Can anyone give me some advise on kind of an itinerary? How should I do this? Hong Kong- Shenzhen. Hong Kong- Macau-Hong Kong? Can I go straight from Shenzhen to Macau and back? I don't want to use too many pages in my passport as I know the Hong Kong stamp is so big too. I don't know. I do plan to taking a girl in each country, and I'm over 40 so I was thinking avoid the pick up game and doing 141 or something. Although I've made some friends on Wechat. Indo maids in HK and chinese girls in SZ. At least I can make some friends and maybe more.

A. T.[/QUOTE]You can take a ferry from Shenzhen (Shekou ferry terminal, and you can ride the Shenzhen MRT to the ferry terminal) to HK and too Macau. There are multiple sailings a day. You can also take the ferry from the same place to Macau and back. If you plan to do that, see if they give a discount on buying a return ticket. There are also a LOT of ferries between HK and Macau. I suspect you might get some sticker shock in both HK and Macau. The girls aren't cheap, especially the saunas in Macau, although if you time it correctly you can spend the night in the sauna for no extra charge. Enjoy!

I had very good experience with Fuji Building in Hong Kong. Address is Lockhart road 181-183.25 (or so) storey building based on "one woman brothel" system. Prices are from 500 to 1100 HKD depending on duration of service, if you opt for massage etc. Standard procedure is CBJ, cowgirl, missionary. I came there 6-7 times and was always the only Caucasian among local customers but girls were friendly, speaking sufficient English (although sex does not require much speaking generally), I was turned down only once, all others were happy to provide service. There are local HK girls and also workers from mainland China. Their looks were pretty ok for my taste, rooms are rather ascetic but clean.

You don't often get to CIM with 141 girls. Which 16th floor apt was this?

[QUOTE=Redcurry;1667876]So a little online research led me to a very non-descript building in the center of Hk, I hoped woke up with a raging stiffy my first day in Hk and what to do about that at 9 am? Well I decided to give it a try. It's like 22 floors and apparently about 100 ladies live-work out of it.

I speak fairly poor Mandarin but I guess it's enough to get the point across. You will see any ladies that promoting herself with characters on her door for "good BJ" "nice service" etc sometimes you see an English word on there too. I just knocked on some doors, settled on a 16th floor lady from Shenzhen. She said she was 25, Shenzhen is mandarin speaking so that makes it easier for me, she pretty much speaks 0 English but I did see on her wall she or someone had printed up some English words "45 minutes to cum, etc" LOL. Some people say some ladies don't want western guys around, I didn't encounter any of that. As soon as we settled on the price she got on her knees and took out my cock.

She was really wet, creamy wet, not especially tight but her ass felt super tight. She told me her backdoor was too small for my cock, well thanks? LOL.

Fucked her in a few positions, pulled off the rubber, made sure to give her a mouthful of cum.

After that she asked where I was from, how did I know about Fuji, do I like Chinese girls (obviously) ha and if she can kiss me.

All in all, pretty fun experience. There are some good looking ladies located in there.

For your info about the Fuji Building.

Each girl has her own studio apt in which she bangs, the reasons are a HK law about how many hookers can be in a single dwelling (1).

Some girls have pages on 141 sex site.

There are both TW and PRC girls, I have heard Russians as well but I didn't check that out. The PRC women technically are some visit visa / blah blah, many of them can only do short visits or they try to stay under the radar for that reason they are looking to make as much as they can. So some might try to rush you OR you can def. Bargain with them. If you don't know Chinese numbers just do it on your phone.

If you don't know which girl you are viisting first, you can just take the lift up to 22 and work your way down. Do your bargaining AT the doorway, not inside.[/QUOTE]

Fantastic story. I am usually out at odd times like mid-day on weekdays and rarely make eye contact with a DH who seems interested. I think none of them has the time on those days. I've also never had the balls to approach a girl in a group. More power to you sir.

[QUOTE=Redcurry;1668364]Went out by Kowloon, Mong Kok to just stroll around but saw a few pretty Indonesian girls and walked up to them and said Hi, selamat, etc. We all got to chatting about why I know 6 words in Indonesian LOL and I said I have traveled there, blah blah. Well I was most interested in one particular lady, small with an ass on her with nice jet black hair, one had a hair wrap but that doesn't necessary mean anything in my Indo / Malay experience. I asked her if she wanted to go to lunch and coffee with me, she looked pretty genuinely surprised. She asked if her friends can come with us, I said sure (boner killer at the time). So we went to Pacific coffee or whatever downstairs in the hotel mall and chatted for who knows how long. At some point all three of them went to the restroom and when they returned the one I was into said "my friends are going to TST to meet with some other Indos". So I guess I passed whatever test I was subjected too.

We went to grab lunch, went to a Turkish place in Wanchai area because 1. Halal 2. Nearer to my hotel (obviously the important part). We chit chatted and walked around, she asked me where I stay and I said over there, nice view very high. She said "really?" and I said sure. So off we went.

Once we got in the room, the outside 1 foot shyness barrier, she was not too shy in the room, she hugged me and I instantly felt her booty in her jeans. She did that annoying Asian girl thing where as soon as you get into it, hands up the shirt they said "I want to use the shower".

She came out in the towel and I did a 5 second cock shower and wham it was on. She told me I was her first "bule"(foreigner) who knows but she seemed to really like my sausage haha. We fucked like mad for about 3 hours, I have fucked a lot of Chinese, Thai, Filipinas (used to live in China and Thailand and love the Phils) but every Indo I have played with has been a red hot fuck even if they were a complainer LOL. I blew 3 loads 2 all over her face / mouth, 1 on her delicious full ass. I really would have loved to sample her asshole but she was not too keen on that idea.

The subject of money never came up and I was pretty unsure if she wanted money or just wanted some dick. When she was ready to rejoin her friends, I decided hey she was a really nice girl and super mouth / pussy on her, I put 500 HKD in her bag and some little pack of Godiva chocolates I got as a work gift as well.

She txt'd me later and said Thank you for everything, my friends and I loved the chocolates. I am fairly sure I could have JUST given her the chocolates but hey I was happy to make a hard working young lady in HK happy.[/QUOTE]

That would be nice but it happens so infrequently it just seems to me like a waste of time. HK girls aren't that easy. Yes I've managed this a couple times but I don't make a habit of it. It's more down to luck, right place right time. IMHO.

[QUOTE=JayBalanty;1672698]I frequent HK for business, and although I have done the 141 buildings and some of the massage places, I find that going to places like All Night Long, Insomnia and the like are just as easy to score. And relatively free! I shall give my experience.

It was about midnight on a Friday night\Saturday Morning. I was just laying in my room flipping through tv and was bored. I decided to throw some clothes on and walk around Kowloon for a bit. I figured I would just grab a snack and maybe a drink so I head to Knutsford Terrace. None of the little restaurants are jumping out at me so I walk all the way to the end and see that All Night Long is packed. Intrigued I walked in and ordered a beer. The place was packed with Ex-pats and locals. I made my way through a sea of people to the back bar. They had a cover band playing that was not bad. After a while the band took a break. A DJ now starts playing hip hop and the dance floor starts to get packed. I am not much of a dancer so I hang back, well that lasted all of about 60 seconds. An insanely cute local girl does a little half ass sign language asking me to dance with her. How could I say no. I hit the floor and the next thing I know this girl is grinding on me to every song for the next half hour.

The band returns to stage and we leave the dance floor. I ask to buy her a drink, she asks for a glass of red wine, I get a whisky. We sit there drinking and listening to the band. After a while, I put my arm around her and she puts her head on my shoulder. I ask if she wants another drink, she says, No lets go. I thought lets go? Go where? We swim through the sea of people towards the door. Once we make it outside, she attacks me and we start making out like two teenagers. I ask if she wants to come back to my place. At the time I was in country for about a month staying in a service apartment between Jordan and Mong kok. I ask if she wants to walk, she says yes. As we walk, every "do not walk" sign affords us the opportunity to make out and feel each other up. We make it to my apartment. It was some of the most wild porn star like sex I have ever had.

After, we both fall asleep. When I wake up, she is already getting dressed. I ask if she wants breakfast, and she declined and said she has to go. She gathers her things and leaves. I sat in bed scratching my head. What the fuck just happened? Immediately I thought, shit!, she robbed me. I checked my belongings and everything was there, wallet. Everything in check. What did this girl get out of our interchange? I suppose she got exactly the same thing I got out of it. After that experience, I realized that a lot of these local girls have sex drive that ravenous. When I am in HK, I became bolder, I stopped beating around the Bush, I came out and just said what I wanted. That seemed to work 90% of the time. 9 out of 10 times I went into a club, I had a cute girl come home with me. I even fingered a girl that I met on the island while we were on the MTR to TST. But that's a whole other story.

My ultimate point is p4 p is all fine and dandy, but I think sometimes its fun to go on a real safari and tag your game.

Sorry for the long story, some of the gentlemen in the Dominican Republic forum really like my stories and encouraged me to share more.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JohnnyRocket;1681309]That would be nice but it happens so infrequently it just seems to me like a waste of time. HK girls aren't that easy. Yes I've managed this a couple times but I don't make a habit of it. It's more down to luck, right place right time. IMHO.[/QUOTE]Oh, I don't know about that. I am not particularly special, just very tall LOL, but find charming a HK girl into bed is pretty easy. They are very open with their attitudes and many just want the same as us at the end of the day.

Be nice, fun, make them feel special (they always are!) and you would be amazed. It is because there are so many ass hole guys in HK, being a nice guy pays dividends.

Spent a few days in HK and it seems quiet. Amazonia is still rocking but from next month I hear they will change their policy and not offer commission to the girls. Wonder how this will work out? Also spent some time in Escape, Hong Kong Cafe, Neptune 3 and Joe Bananas. Gone are they hey-days with Philippine girls all over the area. Mostly older girls now, a bit sad actually. Some Thai Girls, but the most good looking Thai girls are still in Thailand. Wanchai is still nice for its party-all-night atmosphere but as a mongering destination I am afraid it has lost its former glory.

[QUOTE=LongLunches;1681535]Oh, I don't know about that. I am not particularly special, just very tall LOL, but find charming a HK girl into bed is pretty easy. They are very open with their attitudes and many just want the same as us at the end of the day.

Be nice, fun, make them feel special (they always are!) and you would be amazed. It is because there are so many ass hole guys in HK, being a nice guy pays dividends.[/QUOTE]I agree it's certainly available, but I have a poor batting average. Maybe I'm not in the right venues or not good at playing the game. I'm not much for clubs and LKF. It's hard to approach a girl after she's given you the quick look away "what are you looking at me for" look. Ever notice how cold and unhappy everyone here is? They call Thailand the Land of Smiles. I call HK the land of scowling faces and push-up bras.

You guys crack me up "we shouldn't talk about DH" because you think it will spoil your playground! That's funny since there are other sites with lots of information specific about HK!

For those who are interested. Here is my report from my experience with a cute Filipino DH:

Date & Time of Session: February 2015.

Location: Bar 109.

Name: Karen.

Link:

Agent:

Nationality & Language: Philippines. English.

Age: 30-35

Face: 7

Body: 8

Skill: 7

Service: 9

GFE: 9

PSE: 2

Price & Session Length: 500 hkg for st.

Repeat: sure.

Detailed report of your experience:

I was in HK on a Sunday, which was unusual for me. So I thought I would try a DH experience, and I headed over to Bar 109 in Wan Chai around 3 pm on a Sunday. The bar was packed and rocking, with girls on the bar dancing and having a good time. I got a beer from the bar and a cute Philippine girl named Lucy starting chatting to me. I quickly decided she was a DH based on a couple of simple questions. Who is your employer? How long have you been in HK? Bought her a couple of drinks and had a good conversation going. And she said she was going to the toilet. After 10 minutes, I had another girl go to check on her. And she was gone. It didn't make sense to me since we were talking, laughing, grinding, dancing together. But whatever. I guess she had to leave.

So I started talking to the girl that checked on her for me, and her friend. A couple of questions to them, and it was obvious they were WG, not DH. I casually asked her how much for a ST, and she replied 10,000 HKD. At that point, I sent her away and said I was not interested. She laughed and said she was just kidding -but I was not looking for a WG only a DH.

Next. Another cute Filipino girl came up to me, and we started chatting. She said her name was Karen. She was a DH, and just there to have a good time. I bought her two drinks and then asked her if she wanted to meet outside the bar. She said that she normally does not go out with guys. Just hangs at the bar and drinks. But she would go with me. Whoo hoo. Saw this as a good sign. I asked her how much and got the typical " you decide" for an answer. She said "up to you".

Decided to offer 500 HKG and she quickly said yes! She said she had to be home by 9 pm, and it currently was around 5 pm. I said we could go to a ST hotel, then dinner. She agreed.

She knew a hotel. Just a couple of doors down from the bar. I paid the room fee - 160 HKD for an hour.

In the room. I was very pleased. We both undressed and showered together. Then onto the bed where she was already dripping wet. Very horny girl. She has small tits and a see-section scar. But overall. I rated her a 7 for her cute face and nice body. She started with BBBJ while I played with her LS. We continued with some mutual oral. Then on with the cover for CG, then doggie, and finally misih. All the positions were good but she preferred mish. , so I rolled her over and pounded away with her legs on my shoulders. We had a good time, but I wanted more BBBJ. So I rolled off her and removed the condom. She started sucking, and I was shooting quickly. She took it all in her mouth, then to the bathroom to spit and rinse.

She said it was good. Salty and sweet. I just laughed. We cleaned up, then went to a Chinese restaurant in the area of her choice. Good, cheap place with hot pots. Less than 300 HKG for both of us. During dinner, she told me about her employer, her kids back home and more. She is divorced and looking for a replacement. That's not me. But I had a great time with her. I would check her out again in the future but there are so many others to try!

[QUOTE=Junkstuff;1683384]You guys crack me up "we shouldn't talk about DH" because you think it will spoil your playground! {S N I P}
I was in HK on a Sunday, which was unusual for me. So I thought I would try a DH experience, and I headed over to Bar 109 in Wan Chai around 3 pm on a Sunday. Decided to offer 500 HKG and she quickly said yes! {S N I P}[/QUOTE]I was surprised to read your 'playground' comment. I have never interpreted posts here in that way.

There seems to be a misconception that DHs only have Sunday off. A significant number have their day off during the week (because of the work rosters of their employers) and some have extended time off when their employers (and children) go on vacation.

And bars are not the only place to meet DHs on their day off. I have mentioned a number of these places before. For example, the World Wide Plaza (in World wide House) is chock full of pinays every day of the week (Delifrance used to be a great place to talk to the girls). There is an equivalent plaza / mall in Causeway Bay for Indos, and there are even places in the New Territories where DHs congregate (such as New Town Plaza in Shatin near the MTR).

One does not have to be a local to meet the 'non-Sunday' DHs. An appropriate listing in HKC or DIA will put you in contact with plenty of girls to meet on your visit to HK without the need to 'chat up' DHs in bars and malls. About 2 weeks before your visit would be the ideal timing for communications.

Additionally, many of the DHs that I meet, never ask for any money, although that may be partially because I live across the 'mud' in Shenzhen and the girl is envisaging something longer term than a simple afternoon liaison.

Ikksman.

Hi,

I will be in Hong Kong in 3 weeks. I will be with a old friend of mine and we will meet 2 friends there.

I have read the forum.

I am missing some information.

With my friend we are looking to have some fun together and not separately.

Could you tell me how it can work in HK?

Is this easy to have threesomes, foursomes (.) ? In different situations: DH, cafés, saunas, internet?

Do we have to take care of something in particular?

Thank you for your help.

Think I've read that review on another forum. Guy who wants a 3 some. Go to craigs list. There are few adds offering 2 ladies.

"I was surprised to read your 'playground' comment. I have never interpreted posts here in that way. ".

I was referring to Chantik's comment "I wouldn't be telling non-based HK guys about the DH scene. I would keep it a secret. ", and Tiger888's reply agreeing.

They were both responding to my original post asking for some information about DH's, which they did not provide.

I appreciate your posting with some additional information!

JS

[QUOTE=Chantik;1683644]Think I've read that review on another forum. Guy who wants a 3 some. Go to craigs list. There are few adds offering 2 ladies.[/QUOTE]Hi,

I did not poste in another forum. I am not familiar with Craig list.

I am more looking to go to places like K-Pressure or Dundas and to cafés in WanChai. Just wondering if this was possible to make parties there (even taking 2 WG) or with ladies you meet in these cafés. Thanks.

K Pressure Sauna.

Spa: K Pressure.

Girl: Kay.

Age: 30-35

Body: 3.5/5

Ratings:

Face: 3.5/5 attractive mid 30's girl, pretty but not a model.

Body: 4/5 very well proportioned. Nice medium sized tits and a little ass.

Service: 5/5. Outstanding service. Exactly what I came here for!

Damage: 510 HKG for 45 minutes.

WIR: Absolutely.

I was in town and needed a little relaxation, so I figured I would try K Pressure. It had been several months since my last visit, but I knew the routine. Mama put me in the room, gave me some hot tea, and I told her I would like to see a couple of girls. The first one was OK, but a smoker. And it was obvious. As a non-smoker, not appealing to me. Mama said no problem and sent in girl number 2 - nice looking, friendly. She did not speak English, but I guess that doesn't really matter. I chose her, and paid mama HKD 390.

Upstairs to pay the remaining HKD 120 for the room, and we were there. May picked up some ice and hot tea on the way in, and there was Asian porn playing on the TV. It only took a couple of minutes until we were in the shower, and she was soaping me up. It would be nice if they had a table shower, but this is OK. And May certainly knew what she was doing. Completely focused on me and my happiness. I could tell that I picked the right one!

After I was very clean, I dried off and laid face down on the bed. May joined me, and started the cat bath. Started at my neck and slowly worked her way between my legs. She the spread my cheeks and started rimming, then to the ice and rimming, and lastly to the hot tea. She had me turn over, then started all over again on the front, ending with an ice and then hot tea BBBJ.

I decided that it was so good I would just lay back and let her do all the work. I wasn't interested in FS with her, since her oral skills were so good. She continued licking all over. My ball sack, my ass, inside of my thighs, and of course BBBJ. It didn't take too much longer before I was ready to shoot. And she caught it all with a CIM. After she spit and cleaned up, she asked if I wanted a massage, and she spent the last 10-15 minutes on a soft leg rub / massage.

Overall, this place is a great value, and most every visit I had provided great service. The girls are OK. Not models, but still attractive. And they are very service oriented, wanting to make sure I had a good time.

After cleaning up and dressing, we went back downstairs where mama checked to make sure I had a good time.

This place is a great value. And I'll be back.

[QUOTE=Ikksman;1683494]I was surprised to read your 'playground' comment. I have never interpreted posts here in that way.

There seems to be a misconception that DHs only have Sunday off. A significant number have their day off during the week (because of the work rosters of their employers) and some have extended time off when their employers (and children) go on vacation.

And bars are not the only place to meet DHs on their day off. I have mentioned a number of these places before. For example, the World Wide Plaza (in World wide House) is chock full of pinays every day of the week (Delifrance used to be a great place to talk to the girls). There is an equivalent plaza / mall in Causeway Bay for Indos, and there are even places in the New Territories where DHs congregate (such as New Town Plaza in Shatin near the MTR).

One does not have to be a local to meet the 'non-Sunday' DHs. An appropriate listing in HKC or DIA will put you in contact with plenty of girls to meet on your visit to HK without the need to 'chat up' DHs in bars and malls. About 2 weeks before your visit would be the ideal timing for communications.

Additionally, many of the DHs that I meet, never ask for any money, although that may be partially because I live across the 'mud' in Shenzhen and the girl is envisaging something longer term than a simple afternoon liaison.

Ikksman.[/QUOTE]Ikksman,

Good Info, thank you. Do you know any further info on the general location or name of the plaza in Causeway Bay.

Andy

[QUOTE=AndyRussett;1683801]Ikksman,

Good Info, thank you. Do you know any further info on the general location or name of the plaza in Causeway Bay.

Andy[/QUOTE]Nevermind, found it.

[QUOTE=Ikksman;1683494]I live across the 'mud' in Shenzhen[/QUOTE]Stay on your side of the border.

[QUOTE=Totos;1683666]I did not poste in another forum. I am not familiar with Craig list.

I am more looking to go to places like K-Pressure or Dundas and to cafs in WanChai. Just wondering if this was possible to make parties there (even taking 2 WG) or with ladies you meet in these cafs. Thanks.[/QUOTE]RTFF and Google. Out of curiosity from posts here, I took a quick look at Craigslist. Interesting place. Chantik mentions 3 somes or 4 somes. If that is what you want, be specific with the ladies or managers. I am always surprised how little I know and how adventurous some ladies are. The last one was a coed in the States earlier this year.

[QUOTE=JohnnyRocket;1682661]I agree it's certainly available, but I have a poor batting average. Maybe I'm not in the right venues or not good at playing the game. I'm not much for clubs and LKF. It's hard to approach a girl after she's given you the quick look away "what are you looking at me for" look. Ever notice how cold and unhappy everyone here is? They call Thailand the Land of Smiles. I call HK the land of scowling faces and push-up bras.[/QUOTE]Even some of those bitchest girls need release so don't give up. Had to laugh as a trio did their final test in the Kingsman.

[QUOTE=AndyRussett;1683801]Ikksman,
Good Info, thank you. Do you know any further info on the general location or name of the plaza in Causeway Bay.
Andy[/QUOTE]From the Sogo store in Causeway Bay, head down Hennessey Rd towards Tin Hau. Before you reach Vic Park, turn left into a short street (Sugar Street?). There is a building on the left with a lot of Indonesian stores inside. Look for a money changer at street level and an escalator going up to the next level. The building is named the Causeway Bay Commercial Centre or something similar.

Ikksman

[QUOTE=Totos;1683666]Hi,

I did not poste in another forum. I am not familiar with Craig list.

I am more looking to go to places like K-Pressure or Dundas and to cafs in WanChai. Just wondering if this was possible to make parties there (even taking 2 WG) or with ladies you meet in these cafs. Thanks.[/QUOTE]I was referring to another poster with the review.

It could cost plenty of money to get 2 or more girls out of a bar. And that's if can convince the ladies.

You are better to go private for your needs.

[QUOTE=Junkstuff;1683653]"I was surprised to read your 'playground' comment. I have never interpreted posts here in that way. ".

I was referring to Chantik's comment "I wouldn't be telling non-based HK guys about the DH scene. I would keep it a secret. ", and Tiger888's reply agreeing.

They were both responding to my original post asking for some information about DH's, which they did not provide.

I appreciate your posting with some additional information!

JS[/QUOTE]I suggest that the silence in relation to your question, probably means that the guys, don't share as much information about DH when compared to W / L.

[QUOTE=Chantik;1684109]I was referring to another poster with the review.

It could cost plenty of money to get 2 or more girls out of a bar. And that's if can convince the ladies.

You are better to go private for your needs.[/QUOTE]Thank you. That was my feeling. We will try this way.

As we will go also to Macau, it may be easier in saunas or privates there also.

I will post our experience!

[QUOTE=Boarer;1684048]Stay on your side of the border.[/QUOTE]I actually prefer SZ/DG/HZ, Haha! But on no account is it because of what [b]boarish[/b] posters write!

Ikksman

[QUOTE=Junkstuff;1683653]
I was referring to Chantik's comment "I wouldn't be telling non-based HK guys about the DH scene. I would keep it a secret. ", and Tiger888's reply agreeing.

JS[/QUOTE]You are clearly oblivious of Chantik's background.

A couple years back I got myself intoxicated and somehow ended up in a hotel with uncensored hardcore pornography in the room and rather liked it. Any punters care to make a recommendation for a friendly hotel in the 1000 HKD / night range that has hardcore porno on the television. I'm tired of the Ming Court's censored shit.

[QUOTE=Ikksman;1684333]I actually prefer SZ/DG/HZ, Haha! But on no account is it because of what [b]boarish[/b] posters write!

Ikksman[/QUOTE]Must be a wonderful place. They do anal too?

IT.

[QUOTE=ItTravel;1685224]Must be a wonderful place. They do anal too?

IT.[/QUOTE]Generally no, although there are odd reports of punters achieving it. Even BBJCIM is not that common with WGs in Southern China. In fact BBBJ is often regarded as simply means to get erection so that FS can follow. Depends on the training of the WG.

Ikksman.

Since I won't get to Macau until at least halfway through my trip, are there any decent saunas worth visiting in Wan Chai or Kowloon? I know after reading that they won't hold a candle to Macau, but I think I'm going to be jumping back and forth between K Pressure and Dundas, etc and may just want to chill after walking around for a bit.

I've read a few bad reports on Noble and a few decent ones on Fairy-Tale Island, so I'm just trying to get the overall feedback on which one's may be the best to visit.

Any info would be appreciated.

Thanks!

N

[QUOTE=Ikksman;1684100]From the Sogo store in Causeway Bay, head down Hennessey Rd towards Tin Hau. Before you reach Vic Park, turn left into a short street (Sugar Street?). There is a building on the left with a lot of Indonesian stores inside. Look for a money changer at street level and an escalator going up to the next level. The building is named the Causeway Bay Commercial Centre or something similar.

Ikksman[/QUOTE]There are actually two small malls there. I got a shop girls number no problem. She is not the youngest or cutest, but variety over the PRC's is appreciated.

Dropped into Makati last night well after midnight. A bit quiet for a Friday night. Definitely more men then women. Should have been a good night for the ladies though there seemed to be many window shoppers. A least, I didn't turn into a pumpkin.

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Hey fellas,

In Hong Kong now, Where are the local girls? From what I gather from the reports, it seems most of the WGs are from PRC. I want to hook up with a local hong konger girl. I can speak cantonese and want to be able to chat with one. I was going to try fuji / phoenix and 37 dundas and k-pressure, but it seems that they are all mainlanders. The 141 websites only list what languages they speak, and says they are "chinese", which doesn't clue me in at all. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks in advance.

Go onto Craigs List. Few local girls advertise. I am fluent in cantonese but not from HK.

[QUOTE=Chantik;1689090]Go onto Craigs List. Few local girls advertise. I am fluent in cantonese but not from HK.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info, but it doesn't list if they are from Hong Kong or the mainland. I guess I'll just have to see what's on tap.

[QUOTE=ThomKatt;1688537]Hey fellas,

In Hong Kong now, Where are the local girls? From what I gather from the reports, it seems most of the WGs are from PRC. I want to hook up with a local hong konger girl. I can speak cantonese and want to be able to chat with one. I was going to try fuji / phoenix and 37 dundas and k-pressure, but it seems that they are all mainlanders. The 141 websites only list what languages they speak, and says they are "chinese", which doesn't clue me in at all. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]Most of these girls are from the mainland. I met a few who now reside in HK, some for years, does that make them HK girls? If you go to the upscale clubs or as lovely Chantik says look in CL you may find one but it is close to impossible to confirm the truth by looks, other than ones having European genes somewhere in the line they are ethnically the same.

Not sure what you are looking for but if your bucket list misses a real HK girl do as advised and better not dig to deep or your bubble may burst.

I also like try different nationalities but in the end a good session counts. And PRC and HK are very much alike in terms of face and body built.

Good luck.

Fa.

[QUOTE=ThomKatt;1688537]Hey fellas,

In Hong Kong now, Where are the local girls? From what I gather from the reports, it seems most of the WGs are from PRC. I want to hook up with a local hong konger girl. I can speak cantonese and want to be able to chat with one. I was going to try fuji / phoenix and 37 dundas and k-pressure, but it seems that they are all mainlanders. The 141 websites only list what languages they speak, and says they are "chinese", which doesn't clue me in at all. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]Search for 'Miss Pumpkin', she claims to be a real HK girl (as if that means anything).

[QUOTE=ThomKatt;1689317]Thanks for the info, but it doesn't list if they are from Hong Kong or the mainland. I guess I'll just have to see what's on tap.[/QUOTE]

Read the adds carefully. There are at least three adds that state HK. And they are real. Some people are too hard to help.

Hi there!

I'll be in HK in a few weeks and was wondering if they have some similar which is quite popular in Malaysia KL.

It's a full sauna massage parlor (you get sauna, shower, food and relaxation room) and if you feel like it you can ask the staff to show you girls for FS.

Cheers

Even the 15 hour flight to HK and with very little sleep did not prevent me from following the usual steps to Wan Chai on Friday about 10.30 pm.

Early signs were good. Streets packed outside QV and OCH, so much so you had to pass the overspill on the streets. Headed for Neptune111. Busy, busy, Plenty girls (and I mean girls) making a nuisance of themselves and not leaving you for a minute. All not shy about wanting drinks from you. What was more disturbing there was not a good looking one amongst them and I'm not that fussy. Got a couple of phone numbers for later just in case.

Did not stay there long and decided to call into HK Café. Streets are jumping. Lo and behold I meet a friend from last November. She is working in Macau now but remembered I had told her I was coming back on 6th March and she took a chance of seeing me in HK Café where she met me the last time. All over me like a rash. Have to say it made me feel good. A couple of drinks later and we and came back to the hotel, no questions asked. She even wanted to walk so she could talk to me.

Suffice to say she has just left after a good night. The downside is that I could barely raise a gallop. Hope it is just down to let lag. Still can't beat warm, smooth silky flesh lying beside and cuddling into you all night. Performance was up a notch in the morning which is a good sign. My immediate problem is how to get out of not seeing her tonight as I need to play the field a bit and I have a couple of options but I do not want to disappoint her. Answers on a postcard please.

Staying in a different hotel (Regal iclub) for 5 days and when reading the small print, they said all visitors out by midnight or they needed to have I'd checked. There was no problem when I arrived just after midnight and I never even got a second glance from the desk. Short walk of shame. Could not get the elevator to work. Another guy appears. He too had a problem. Then another guy who tells us we have to use the room key to get the elevator going. A bit embarrassing.

Have a story to tell about my Nympho friend from the past couple of years and who I reported on at the time. I get an email last December from her. She is not well. She is pregnant and I'm the father. Not possible. I ask her to get tested and she sends a photo of a positive pregnancy testing. I ask her for her dates and work out she was 3 weeks pregnant before I even got to HK last November! She phones me. Her period came after 2 months. Now she needs money for her son's school fees and food for her mother. God loves a tryer!

[QUOTE=Chantik;1689477]Read the adds carefully. There are at least three adds that state HK. And they are real. Some people are too hard to help.[/QUOTE]Sorry, but browsing craigslist was terrible advice. HK girls are everywhere. I found a handfull at k-pressure and a few at the fuji building. At least this way I get to see what I'm getting and they are clustered in the same area rather than making the journey and being disappointed. I'll post my Full FR soon.

[QUOTE=ThomKatt;1690938]Sorry, but browsing craigslist was terrible advice. HK girls are everywhere. I found a handfull at k-pressure and a few at the fuji building. At least this way I get to see what I'm getting and they are clustered in the same area rather than making the journey and being disappointed. I'll post my Full FR soon.[/QUOTE]My post was correct. You are impossible to please. Good luck with future posts.

Contrary to my earlier intentions of having a quiet night, I venture down to Wanchai just after midnight.

The streets are strangely quiet. Even outside Amazonia, there are only a few guys hanging around. I venture in. Packed and could hardly move. Plenty girls if you could make them out in the darkness. Did not stay long and went to Neptune 111. Again, not as busy as last night. Could not go to HK Caf in case my friend from last night was there.

A friendly if somewhat slightly plump Filipina latches on and I find her "interesting". She is overly keen to make me happy and wants to go with me for ST. She quotes $1500 but quickly drops to $1000. I am caught for a $150 ladies drink. I surrender and on the way she wants to buy a couple of beers for the hotel. We taxi there and I get into the lift with no problem this time. The reception don't even look up.

She wants paid up front but I refuse and I am just on the point of calling it quits when we compromise and I leave the money on the dressing table. A quick beer each and we share a shower during which she ensures everything is spotlessly clean. I detect a slightly hurried attitude that does not auger well but it was not as bad as I thought. Her main aim is to get me to come quickly. Not an easy job but she is game and works hard to get success. As soon as she is finished she is up, showered again and dressed and leaves within an hour of arriving. She wants to see me tomorrow. No chance. Wish I remembered her name to warn others off but her digits end in 195. She is here for another week. Buyer beware.

When will I ever learn? Must find Chantik's number.

[QUOTE=Mike921;1689381]Search for 'Miss Pumpkin', she claims to be a real HK girl (as if that means anything).[/QUOTE]But there is nothing whatsoever appealing about her. In my opinion.

I do think there's something about a local girl if you bag her for free, that is better than a mainlander. HK girls are snobbier than PRC girls (except Shangai girls who are absolutely the worst) so landing one is more of a conquest.

Now if you are paying there's no difference at all that I can tell.

[QUOTE=ThomKatt;1688537]Hey fellas,

In Hong Kong now, Where are the local girls? From what I gather from the reports, it seems most of the WGs are from PRC. I want to hook up with a local hong konger girl. I can speak cantonese and want to be able to chat with one. I was going to try fuji / phoenix and 37 dundas and k-pressure, but it seems that they are all mainlanders. The 141 websites only list what languages they speak, and says they are "chinese", which doesn't clue me in at all. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]If you are paying I don't see the difference between HK and PRC girls. But this forum is for helping you find what you want so here goes.

Chantik is right that there are girls on CL who claim to be local. Also set up some "dates" ahead of time on sites like Date in Asia and HK Cupid. Lots of them are good for freebies with minimal effort. But you cannot be sure they are really HK girls. It's also true that there are locals mixed in among 141 walkups and 37 D / KP type places but you will have a hard time being sure here either.

If you speak Cantonese really well and have a good ear you may be able to tell the girls who are not native speakers of Cantonese and thus weed them out as mainlanders, but that won't screen out the southern mainlanders.

One dead giveaway is how they speak English. They use British expressions and words regardless of accent. Most mainlanders use American ones. But there are exceptions. Also the accent. HK girls tend to speak with one of three accents: British, neutral or something I call "local" that is unique to HK but very recognizable. If you've been here a while you are familiar with it. But most mainlanders allow some sounds from Mandarin to bleed into their English and are more likely not to be able to pronounce certain letters like mixing up L / are. They have a distinct way of speaking English. Not true 100% of the time because some of them have dated westerners or were educated overseas, but WGs aren't likely to have done either. After hearing a Chinese girl talk for a couple minutes I can nearly always tell if she's local or mainland. Develop this skill and your quest will become easier.

I remember reading a few posts back that Old China Hand was the place on a Sunday afternoon for DH's. Purely for research purposes, I strolled down about 3. 00 pm and stayed to 5. 00 pm. Not many girls there, about 10/12 I guess. They were simply enjoying themselves on the karaoke and I doubt if they were available for takeout although I did see one or two leaving with guys they did not come in with.

Most of them should be advised not to give up their full-time jobs, having been on the receiving end of their renditions. The few guys that got up were not bad (at singing that is). An entertaining afternoon. Cheap as well compared to drink prices in the other bars.

I decided to venture down again about 11.00 pm. OCH empty as I pass. Neptune 111 half empty with the usual vultures hanging around. Nothing attracts me although I meet Nicole who remembers me from last November and comes over for a chat. They have photographic memories I think. Looks into Joe Bananas. It's just like an man's pub now. Paid a visit to Insiders. Two girls in it.

For old times sake I venture into Escape. IMHO the old Fenwicks was the best of them all in its hay-day. There is a queue of girls waiting to get in and having their I'd noted. I am waved straight in. The place is quite busy and the quality talent on display has gone up quite a few notches. Some very attractive and well turned out girls there. The prices match of course.

I'm having a beer minding my own business when a very attractive girl sidles up from nowhere. I think she is Thai but she is Chinese from Shanghai and here for 2 weeks. Vivacious, pretty and well dressed would be an understatement and not do her justice. Slightly difficult to have a conversation with as her English is not too good but I eventually raise the cost implications and I am told $4000. I expected this. For some reason she quickly came down to $2000 with a promise to stay all night and the next day. Too good to be true and I break a record by agreeing $2000. She does not even want a drink. Don't flame me. Off we go. She knows the score as she asks me to leave first and I meet her a couple of minutes later round the corner. Two Thai girls standing beside us give me a smile as I leave. Not half as big as the one I have. She is 29 years old but looks nowhere near it. She is a tiger in bed. I've just met another nympho who wants sex all night. Unbelievable. Using google translate I get her to leave at 12 midday as I have meetings later in the day. We arrange to meet tonight at 10.00 pm. Can't wait although too many $2000 will have an impact on my budget. However these only come along a few times in a lifetime. Live for the day.

[QUOTE=Chantik;1691122]My post was correct. You are impossible to please. Good luck with future posts.[/QUOTE]I'm quite sure I'm not impossible to please. I was pleased, twice, in the same day. I found what I was looking for, easily, in the first two locations that I looked. I don't believe your advice was effective, take it personally or not, it's not wise for someone looking for something specific. I would have had to scour the whole city, going from CL ad to CL ad, set up dates, go see them in person, or wait for them to come to me, only to turn them down if they aren't up to my standards. And then have to repeat the process again. Going to a place where there's the potential of a lot of them is a lot more easier, I can see them in person, and if I am unsatisfied, take a look at the next girl. Without even looking out for them, I found 3 hk girls in the fuji building. When I asked for hk girls in K-pressure, they showed me 4. Good luck with future clients.

[QUOTE=ThomKatt;1692030]I'm quite sure I'm not impossible to please. I was pleased, twice, in the same day. I found what I was looking for, easily, in the first two locations that I looked. I don't believe your advice was effective, take it personally or not, it's not wise for someone looking for something specific. I would have had to scour the whole city, going from CL ad to CL ad, set up dates, go see them in person, or wait for them to come to me, only to turn them down if they aren't up to my standards. And then have to repeat the process again. Going to a place where there's the potential of a lot of them is a lot more easier, I can see them in person, and if I am unsatisfied, take a look at the next girl. Without even looking out for them, I found 3 hk girls in the fuji building. When I asked for hk girls in K-pressure, they showed me 4. Good luck with future clients.[/QUOTE]Your first post asked about original HK girls on the 141 website. So I and others tried to help and offered CL (which is online) where we know there are HK girls. No-one else EXCEPT for you complained about the information provided.

You made no mention that you must meet ladies in person.

You should be thanking others for helping, rather than criticising.

[QUOTE=Chantik;1692077]Your first post asked about original HK girls on the 141 website. So I and others tried to help and offered CL (which is online) where we know there are HK girls. No-one else EXCEPT for you complained about the information provided.

You made no mention that you must meet ladies in person.

You should be thanking others for helping, rather than criticising.[/QUOTE]Hi All,

If possible please could anone tell me where can I get a good nuru / tantric massage in Hong Kong? Chantik if you don't mind please could you send me the information for HK / mainlander girls?

Thanks,

Hotfuss

[QUOTE=Chantik;1691122]My post was correct. You are impossible to please. Good luck with future posts.[/QUOTE]Given TK's history on the SIN fora, methinks you're correct, dear lady.

Thom, what's your definition of a HK girl? The only Hk girls I have seen at K-Pressure are the Mamasans, and they don't do the service. Some girls living in Shenzhen due to the close proximity to HK tend to refer to themselves as being from HK. Could be the same issue with Fuji. The old style HK born hooker is generally aged 55+, and will allow you to bonk her while she reads a newspaper and from time to time, she will shout out Fai Dhee Ah (Hurry up). And Nei Dheem Gai Kum Loy (why are you so slow) while she picks her teeth with a toothpick and an un chewed piece of pai kwat (pork sparerib) comes flying out of her mouth and landing on your upper lip.

The younger generation will hang out in Lan Kwai where you need the gift of gab as well as a pocketful of cash.

Good luck!

[QUOTE=ThomKatt;1692030] I found 3 hk girls in the fuji building. When I asked for hk girls in K-pressure, they showed me 4. Good luck with future clients.[/QUOTE]

Made arrangements to meet my new Chinese nympho in Escape I stroll down about 10.30 pm. There is a queue of girls waiting to get their I'd checked as I enter. The place only has about 20/30 people in it but some of the girls are head turners.

I offer to buy a drink and she suggests a bottle of wine between us. I agree and we move over to a table. A bottle appears and is just about to be opened when I ask the price. $1000. I tell them to take it away and come back with something else. This time it is $475. Still over the odds but I don't want to appear a cheap Charlie. I only take about $1000 out each night and no credit cards. We consume it and I detect she is getting pissed. She does not wait long before suggesting a return to the hotel. I agree again but she insists in a carry-out from the Chinese restaurant across the road from the hotel. Rice and goose ($150). She devours it rapidly in the room and then strips off for a shared shower. Things are on the up. A "hammer and tongs" session follows. She is then sick. Fortunately she made the toilet in time. I'm pissed off and when she returns to the bed she is all but comatose. I am lying there thinking how much I can reduce her fee in the morning and drop off myself. I am wakened at 5. 00 am, the recipient of a BBBJ, Another steamy session follows and afterwards it is me that is "done". I need to sleep but she wants more. It is just not possible. At 8. 00 am there is a repeat performance and she follows this by giving me a very good back massage for about half an hour.

I pack her off about 10.00 am and she asks me about tonight. I tell her I doubt it not at another $2000 but she seems to think there is not a problem. There is. Her name is Tina if anyone is interested but just watch what she drinks. It is unlikely to be with me again.

I'm off the Macao for the day on Thursday on business and was thinking of trying out one of the saunas that is adequately in the Macau forum. I'm not so sure I can afford it now.

For the record, my nympho friend Brenda (the "pregnant" one) is never off the phone wanting to talk to me. She is off the Philippines tomorrow. Maybe at $500 I should have stuck with her.

[QUOTE=Chantik;1692077]Your first post asked about original HK girls on the 141 website. So I and others tried to help and offered CL (which is online) where we know there are HK girls. No-one else EXCEPT for you complained about the information provided.

You made no mention that you must meet ladies in person.

You should be thanking others for helping, rather than criticising.[/QUOTE]"Thanks for the info, but it doesn't list if they are from Hong Kong or the mainland. I guess I'll just have to see what's on tap. ".

Literally what I wrote, even you quoted it as a reply. THANKS FOR THE INFO. When I went through craigslist, none of the ads listed if they were hkers or not. Then you went and had a hissy fit that your advice wasn't ideal for my situation. I NEVER COMPLAINED about the info, but you wanted to be a be! Tch about it. Thank you for your help ONCE AGAIN, even if I didn't use it or find it useful.

[QUOTE=Ebauche;1692259]Given TK's history on the SIN fora, methinks you're correct, dear lady.[/QUOTE]Are you tipping your fedora while you say this? Are you still mad that I owned you so badly in your own forums that you needed to stalk me? Haha sadness.

Hi all,

Sorry for repeating myself, but if possible would any one know any good soapy / nuru massage in Hong Kon or China elsewhere? Would really appreciate your help.

Thanks,

Hotfuss

[QUOTE=ThomKatt;1692495]Are you tipping your fedora while you say this? Are you still mad that I owned you so badly in your own forums that you needed to stalk me? Haha sadness.[/QUOTE]Who cares (apart from you)? Boring!

[QUOTE=ThomKatt;1692494]"Thanks for the info, but it doesn't list if they are from Hong Kong or the mainland. I guess I'll just have to see what's on tap. ". Literally what I wrote, even you quoted it as a reply. THANKS FOR THE INFO. When I went through craigslist, none of the ads listed if they were hkers or not. Then you went and had a hissy fit that your advice wasn't ideal for my situation. I NEVER COMPLAINED about the info, but you wanted to be a be! Tch about it. Thank you for your help ONCE AGAIN, even if I didn't use it or find it useful.[/QUOTE]Again, boring!

[b]My only question is what is so wonderful about a HK WG versus a Cantonese speaking WG from Guangdong (formerly known as Canton) or Guangxi?[/b] Interesting!

Ikksman

[QUOTE=Ikksman;1692693][b]My only question is what is so wonderful about a HK WG versus a Cantonese speaking WG from Guangdong (formerly known as Canton) or Guangxi?[/b][/QUOTE]TK has some sort of fetish about only shtupping local girls when he's in a locale. Collects them like passport stamps, apparently. And no matter how incorrect he might be in a FR, he's right. Don't worry about remembering that. He'll tell you.

[QUOTE=HotFuss;1692502]Hi all,
Sorry for repeating myself, but if possible would any one know any good soapy / nuru massage in Hong Kon or China elsewhere? Would really appreciate your help.
Thanks,

Hotfuss[/QUOTE]Check the website happymassage for Hong Kong and mainland cities. Shanghai has plenty (check the Shanghai forum).

Ikksman

Was unable to continue my ventures for three days due to illness but decided I needed a break from staying in hotel.

Went to meet a friend in Insiders about 11.00 pm. It's not my favourite place as I have always found it too quiet and Friday was no different. The streets outside were heaving at the usual venues along the road.

Had a few beers and noticed a shy-looking girl sitting at the bar with a friend. As luck would have it, it was her friend who came over instead and was soon looking for a drink. That's a turn off for me as I have said frequently in the past. However she did notice I was looking at her friend and asked me if I preferred her. I nodded and she disappeared, with her friend taking her place. A very pleasant hour ensued. I had found a DH with the weekend off who has been here for 3 years, Very nice, slim, friendly person who says she does not go out a lot and eventually got round to the inevitable "would you like to see my hotel room?" She shyly nodded and off we went. By this time I may add the place was busy with a few single girls moving around.

She was a bit shy at first and to be honest I don't think she has had sex for a while. It started off slowly like the GFE experience but she quickly got right into it and exploded several times. Turned out to be a good night and a good choice. She was undecided about staying the night and eventually left with a promise to see me tonight if I wanted. $700 was gratefully received "for the kids back home". Could well be worth a repeat.

My Chinese friend Tina must have phoned and texted about 50 times since I last saw her. Thank God I have moved hotel.

My nympho Brenda from way back has finally returned home and has left me in peace.

[QUOTE=Chantik;1688115]Dropped into Makati last night well after midnight. A bit quiet for a Friday night. Definitely more men then women. Should have been a good night for the ladies though there seemed to be many window shoppers. A least, I didn't turn into a pumpkin.[/QUOTE]Think many went further away and longer for the Chinese New Year. Don't worry, Sevens is around the corner!

[QUOTE=Jackthelad2;1694093]My Chinese friend Tina must have phoned and texted about 50 times since I last saw her. Thank God I have moved hotel.
My nympho Brenda from way back has finally returned home and has left me in peace.[/QUOTE]Welcome back and nice posts. Think many girls try the pregnant route / trick. Seen many backfire.

Always amazes me how much the girls spend on texting. The mobile phone companies are taking all the girl's profits.

If you are still heading to Macau, check the prices with the agencies at the terminal or touts. There usually are good deals. Haven't seen any for the chopper though. Glad to see you are back on the saddle.

[QUOTE=Boarer;1694422].If you are still heading to Macau, check the prices with the agencies at the terminal or touts. There usually are good deals. Haven't seen any for the chopper though. Glad to see you are back on the saddle.[/QUOTE]Thanks. Unable to venture out in Macau as had to shorten my visit due to not being well. Hope I have not caught anything I can't explain!

Work keeps me busy most of the day and it is just past midnight when I can venture out on my own.

I make for Insiders in the hope I can meet up with my DH from last night. The streets are busy at the usual spots. I take a seat in a sparsely populated bar with only about a dozen girls there. Ten minutes later my DH appears, but she has a customer with her. She had been up dancing. She appears to be a bit embarrassed but tells me if I wait for her she will be back for me as she is leaving shortly. I doubt it. So much for getting the impression this was a quiet girl only going out now and again.

I brush off the attentions of a couple of girls and head for Neptune111. Big mistake, It is packed and instead of the usual 1/ 2 girls approaching looking for a drink, I am literally surround by about 6/7. Do they really think you are going to buy them all a drink at $150 a time? My theory is proved that the older you are, the more attention you will receive. I extract myself and take a seat with one rather big girl hardly wearing anything following on my tail. No doubt she would have been good in bed but not for me.

I head over to Borocay as it is usually quiet but not this time. I engage a 29 year old Filipina in conversation. A very pretty girl and nicely dressed in black. After a few drinks we head off for an agreed $1000. A total disaster in the bedroom. She showers separately and comes out with a towel wrapped round her that Houdini would have had a problem getting out of. Hopeless in bed but I concede she gave a good hand job. I cut my losses and she leaves for Kowloon where she stays. Jam is her name. Avoid at all costs.

Hi Buddies,

Will be back in town on Wednesday. Anyone into killing some beers together?

Has anyone of you ever tried WeChat to get hooked up with girls in the city?

Could someone let me know which are the best places on a Wednesday night to find some semi-pro girls?

Thanks in advance and sorry for the number of questions.

I know it is not the right forum but are there any medics out there?

No long after arriving I took flue like symptoms that I thought would pass over. The next day I was in agony from a URI. Really painful. I attended a doctor and he prescribed antibiotics. A day late I woke up with an enlardged scrotum and testicle – Orchitis, Very very painful. You could not even touch them. Back to the doctor who gave me an antibiotic injection and other antibiotics (Doxyclin and Nitrofurantion). He did ask me if I had been to a sex shop to which I replied NO but it now has me worried.

I'm total fucked and have spent the last 2/3 days in bed so much so that I am returning home a day early. I am not even sure I will make the airport.

Anyone out there any ideas at all? When will it "go away". Any recommended treatment? I have also lost my appetite and have not eaten for several days.

[QUOTE=Jackthelad2;1695683]When will it "go away". Any recommended treatment? I have also lost my appetite and have not eaten for several days.[/QUOTE]OMG. Better lay low, stay inside and work your mail.

I had this about 5 years ago, Jack. In the end, it was diagnosed 'merely' as some non-specific something or other. I'd had the odd BBBJ but nothing unprotected. My left bollock blew up like a football and the varicocles felt like a real 'bag of worms' (Ozzie parlance). Very painful to the touch.

Was initially hospitalized! Till they did a scan and found nothing was twisted (the initial fear). Was given a couple strong rounds of antibiotics, which eventually cleared it up, and has not returned since.

My mongering practices have not changes nor been affected.

When my kids had flu, once or twice at the end of things the virus migrated -- to their knees ('transient synovitus' altho it can go elsewhere -- the hip, even the brain. The quack thought that might possibly have been the case with me, and the virus decided for a holiday in my bollocks. Had you had the flu?

So it might have been from a BJ, altho probably not. And it will go away and you most likely will not get any sort of recurrence.

So we'll still be getting your missives from Wanchai, I trust. .

[QUOTE=JohnSmart;1696107]I had this about 5 years ago, Jack.
So we'll still be getting your missives from Wanchai, I trust. .[/QUOTE]No more reports for a while. I'm back home now. Seen my own Dr and he confirmed Orchitis coming from a URTI. No STD or any problems in that area. A relief, but I will be a bit more careful in the future. A change of antibiotic to 28 days of Ofloxacin will cure all. Even after 12 hours I felt better. I have lost 14 lbs in the week but that was down to eating nothing. A silver lining.

Thanks to all who sent PM's.

One of them confirmed that "Jam" from Borocay was well known for her actions after a shower. See an earlier report. So punters beware.

Here's my FR. It was my first time in HK, and I decided to check out K-pressure and the fuji building. I headed out to K-pressure on a Tuesday afternoon, it was easy to find due to the pictures that everyone have posted on here. I head up the stairs and walk into the main lobby area, but everyone was busy and hadn't even noticed me in there, I take a walk around the place and thought it looked pretty good. They then noticed me and brought me into one of the karaoke rooms to wait. They speak to me in English, but I tell them I can speak Cantonese. She immediately tells me about the prices, and the price of the hotel upstairs. I ask if they have any Hong Kong girls, and she says yes, but only a few, and most were busy. I told her to just show me what she has available. The first girl comes in and was not great looking, a little overweight, and was from HK. She let me grab her big boobs and gives my little guy a good rubbing, which was nice. The mamasan comes to knock on the door and asks if I wanted her. I told her no, to bring me others, HKers if possible. The next girl comes in, her name is Lily, also from HK, lets me grab her perky Ccup breast, and rubs my junk while conversing with me. She was decent looking, but I wanted to see what other options there were. I asked the mamasan to bring in the next girl. She was also decent, a little less pretty but a rock hard body, but from Shenzhen. I then tell the mamasan that I wanted lily, but she has been picked by someone and is busy. Ughhh. The amount of time to see these 3 girls took about 20 minutes. They told me they have more girls, but they are all busy at the moment, and that I needed to wait.

Every 5 minutes, a new girl comes in. And I think in total I saw about 9 girls, and all of them ranged between 4-6. 5 These girls were just not great looking, some had decent bodies to make up for the ugly or averageness of them, but some also had terrible bodies to match (they were on the fat or very thick side). I think there were 4 HKers, 2 from Shenzhen, 1 from mainland, and another or two from Guang Dong. All of them spoke Cantonese, but the mainlander only spoke Mandarin. The mamasans kept switching places, and each time I kept telling them that I want a pretty girl, but they kept showing me whatever they had. I explained that a handsome man like myself needs a pretty girl to match. It had been an hour by the time I saw the 9th girl, and I told them I'm willing to wait for Lily, seeing how she's from HK and was somewhat attractive, but it would be another 10 minutes for her to finish. When Lily finally came to get me, I saw another customer with a girl, and that girl was absolutely stunning. She was tall, slim, and had a pretty face. I wondered why I was never shown this girl. I'm assuming that customer might have asked for her specifically (repeat customer), or that she was busy the whole time, or that she doesn't speak any Cantonese, so they didn't send her in. Oh well, I paid the bill, and tipped the mamasan 20 HKD for their time and trouble. Go upstairs, and pay the short time hotel room. Unfortunately, the terribly lit karaoke rooms made the girls look a lot better than they appeared. When I saw lily in better light, I immediately regretted my decision, even more so when she got naked. Lily was between 24-28 (can't remember, but I think she's a lot older), has some perky real Ccup boobs, but other than that, her body wasn't great. She had a flat butt, and was thick or fat in some other areas of her body. She didn't have great teeth either. I'm hoping for a good session to salvage this. I'm somewhat obsessed with beauty, only sessioning with supermodel type women, and willing to sacrifice service for it. I sighed, and was just going to go through with it so I can check HKer off my to-do list. I shouldn't have expected anything on a Tuesday at 4 pm. We get into the shower where she washed me off. She asks if I want a nuru massage, since I've never had one, I opted for it. She has me lie on a blow up mattress and lie on my stomach while she gives me a soapy body slide on my backside, and then had me flip over and do my front side. It was nice, and got me rock hard. We dry off, and get to the bed. She starts with a BBBJ with an ice cube in her mouth. She was working me for awhile, and I told her that I don't have time and was in a rush to sight see the rest of the city. She was really into kissing, especially DFK. Always gave me her mouth whenever I wanted it, she loved kissing me, being the aggressor most of the time. I get into mish, make sure she's wet and ready, she tasted good, and then start pounding the f**k out of her. While on top, I give it to her deep, and shove my tongue down her throat. After some time, I empty my load inside of her. She cleans me up, and we watch the Japanese porno on the TV, the same exact scene I saw in Macau. I tell her that I have to go, but she seemed to ignore it. I felt bad for her, as she had just finished back to back sessions and was probably exhausted. If she had gone down, she would probably have do another session, this was her break time, so I let her have it. We both took a quick nap, while she cuddled me. We got woken up by the telephone call, letting her know time was up. We jump in the shower real quick, get dressed and leave. A kiss goodbye and I was off.

Later in the night I head to the fuji building. It was easy to find, as the front was well lit and written in English. I go in, and take the elevator to the very top. I do my rounds looking at every single door on every single floor. I snuck glances of the girls whenever someone knocked and they answered. There were so many beautiful girls here, I wish I came here instead of K-pressure. The floors go from 22nd all the way to 7th. Not every single door is a WG, some are real residents. But you will know from the advertisements on the door. If the girl is busy, it will say "Please wait", if she is not, it will say "Welcome". Most were busy. It was around midnight when I got here. I go up and down the building at least 5 times, and eventually when the whole building was getting ready to shut down, most of the girls were available. Me and a bunch of guys ended up doing like a long train, knocking on every door that wasn't busy, and taking a look at the girls. It was pretty fun and funny, we were working together to peep at the girls. Lots of options were available, Vietnamese, thai, chinese, and local girls. I saw 3 signs in English for local HK girls, on the 22nd floor, the 17th floor, and the 11th floor. There could be more, but everything was written in Chinese, which I can't read. Unfortunately, the HK girls weren't all that great looking, probably between a 6-7. 5 The other girls in the building were 7-8. 5 in looks, many with "great looking" bodies as well. After seeing about 15 girls, I decided to go back to the top, on the 22nd floor, to session with a girl named Angel. I thought she was absolutely beautiful, and what looked like a ready nice looking body. She looks like an Asian version of the porn star Ash Hollywood. I knock and ask her if she's from mainland in Mandarin, and she says yes. And I agree, but she leads me across the hall, she was just hanging out with her friend while she waited. Turns out she's from Guangzhou, so she could speak Cantonese to me, but can't speak any English. She's 22-26 (can't remember), no kid, was wearing a sexy see through white nightie, with black bra and sexy black panties to match. However, once all of the clothes came off, her body significantly looked less attractive. I should have known better, if I don't see the girl naked, then things like sexy clothing, pushup bras, and makeup are all very misleading to their true beauty. Her body went from an 8. 5 to a 7. 5. She had saggy Bcup boobs, and an average butt. She was still beautiful though, which is enough for me. We start out in the shower, while she washes me and we have a standard conversation. We then move onto the bed. She starts out with fish kisses all over my body, focusing on my nipples. She then works my family jewels, and puts the cover on and does an ok CBJ. Once I was ready, she gets on top and rides me, while I grab her breasts and massage her bum. In typical Chinese fashion, she tells me she's tired (after 5 minutes), and lays down. That's fine, I'll take her to pound town from missionary. I kiss her on the neck and boobs, but she didnt enjoy it because of my facial hair. Same thing occured in Laos as well. They're not used to it as Asians cant really grow facial hair. While on top, I am ramming her hard, but she has her eyes closed the entire time, but massaging my nipples. I had already sessioned earlier in the day, so it would be awhile until I can release. About 40 minutes into it, I start to speed up faster and go even harder. She's taking it like a champ, it starts to hurt me (I find out later I gave myself an indian burn hahaha), but I'm so close to popping. I then tell her I'm coming, and blow a huge load inside of her, continuously pumping until every last drop is gone from body. She washes me, and then washes herself. She tells me that she's done for the day, I'm her last customer as she's exhausted, and it's about 2 am. I pay her, 600 HKD, and I'm off.

Lily:

Face: 6. 5.

Body: 6. 5.

Service: 8.

Angel:

Face: 8. 5.

Body: 7. 5.

Service: 7.

Unfortunately when I went up Victoria peak, it was cloudy, foggy, and I couldn't see anything. Missing out on one of the biggest sights due to bad timing. I will definitely come back to see it again and try other mongering places when I do. Not too sure when I will come back though.

[QUOTE=RamnHK;1692353]Thom, what's your definition of a HK girl? The only Hk girls I have seen at K-Pressure are the Mamasans, and they don't do the service. Some girls living in Shenzhen due to the close proximity to HK tend to refer to themselves as being from HK. Could be the same issue with Fuji. The old style HK born hooker is generally aged 55+, and will allow you to bonk her while she reads a newspaper and from time to time, she will shout out Fai Dhee Ah (Hurry up). And Nei Dheem Gai Kum Loy (why are you so slow) while she picks her teeth with a toothpick and an un chewed piece of pai kwat (pork sparerib) comes flying out of her mouth and landing on your upper lip.

The younger generation will hang out in Lan Kwai where you need the gift of gab as well as a pocketful of cash.

Good luck![/QUOTE]The old style HK born hookers sounds terrible. Who would put up with this garbage? Hahaha.

A HK girl is someone born and raised in HK. Ethnicity doesn't matter, she can be white. It's about nationality and the customs and cultures specific to the place.

[QUOTE=Ikksman;1692693]Who cares (apart from you)? Boring!

Again, boring!

[b]My only question is what is so wonderful about a HK WG versus a Cantonese speaking WG from Guangdong (formerly known as Canton) or Guangxi?[/b] Interesting!

Ikksman[/QUOTE]There's little to no difference. Here are a few:

1. They can speak more English.

2. Cantonese is their primary language, they will know a decent amount of Mandarin. Southern Mainlanders will know Cantonese and Mandarin almost on equal levels. There's also differences in slang.

3. HK girls are more westernized than southern mainlanders.

4. It's an international city, they have more of an open mind.

5. They enjoy more civil and political rights than their mainland counterparts.

[QUOTE=Ebauche;1692706]TK has some sort of fetish about only shtupping local girls when he's in a locale. Collects them like passport stamps, apparently. And no matter how incorrect he might be in a FR, he's right. Don't worry about remembering that. He'll tell you.[/QUOTE]You have a fetish about stalking me. 4 months you don't post anything in the HK forums, but as soon as I post something here, you come and chime in. What a sad, fat, ugly, old man you are. Why don't you search on Singapore love links some more and find something better to occupy your time with? Like a lonely, bored, desperate housewife. I don't collect passport stamps, not every place stamps. Canada, El Salvador, Macau, and Hong Kong are a few that come to mind. I believe to enjoy a place, you have to experience as much as you can about it. The food, the sights, the touristy spots, the hole in the walls, places off the beaten track, and experiencing the women. Yeah, my FRs based on my experiences are incorrect. They're MY experiences, and they are incorrect. ::eye roll::

[QUOTE=JohnnyRocket;1691596]If you are paying I don't see the difference between HK and PRC girls. But this forum is for helping you find what you want so here goes.

Chantik is right that there are girls on CL who claim to be local. Also set up some "dates" ahead of time on sites like Date in Asia and HK Cupid. Lots of them are good for freebies with minimal effort. But you cannot be sure they are really HK girls. It's also true that there are locals mixed in among 141 walkups and 37 D / KP type places but you will have a hard time being sure here either.

If you speak Cantonese really well and have a good ear you may be able to tell the girls who are not native speakers of Cantonese and thus weed them out as mainlanders, but that won't screen out the southern mainlanders.

One dead giveaway is how they speak English. They use British expressions and words regardless of accent. Most mainlanders use American ones. But there are exceptions. Also the accent. HK girls tend to speak with one of three accents: British, neutral or something I call "local" that is unique to HK but very recognizable. If you've been here a while you are familiar with it. But most mainlanders allow some sounds from Mandarin to bleed into their English and are more likely not to be able to pronounce certain letters like mixing up L / are. They have a distinct way of speaking English. Not true 100% of the time because some of them have dated westerners or were educated overseas, but WGs aren't likely to have done either. After hearing a Chinese girl talk for a couple minutes I can nearly always tell if she's local or mainland. Develop this skill and your quest will become easier.[/QUOTE]My first language is Cantonese. I grew up on HK TV and movies. There are subtle differences between a girl from Hk and a girl from Shenzhen, but a bigger difference between an HK girl and a girl from Guang Dong. HK girls seem to be more confident and independent. They can understand a lot of English. They grew up on different types of foods as well. HK food tends to be more oily and have lots of western influences, which leads to them having less attractive bodies. One of the girls from K-pressure told me that there were no HK girl there, they were all from Shenzhen or guang dong. But I think the real reason was I didn't want her because she wasn't from HK, and well, she was also ugly. She could be right, but in my mind, I'm sure I got a HK girl. She could have just said that out of jealousy. I don't think the girls at k-pressure interact or talk with each other though. I asked one of the girls how many girls they have working that night, and she said she didn't know, nor did she know how many were from HK.

In my hunt to find a great full service spa in Hong Kong, visited VIP Spa, 65 Mody Road, Kowloon (in the Auto plaza Building).

It is on the top floor (13th I think). Spa is very nice inside, sauna, hot tubs etc.

I took advantage of the spa for 30 min and then headed to the rest area for some tea. After about 15 min they tell me my massage is ready.

Girl is petite maybe a 7.

She give a good massage, and then asks if I want a special message (only HJ available). Takes her bra off and does a decent job.

Disappointed not full service, but the Spa was a very nice one for HK (not as good as anything in Macau).

Total cost $1,400 HKD which I thought was high for just a HJ. Not sure I will visit again.

If anyone can recommend a high-end full service spa please let me know.

[QUOTE=ThomKatt;1697254]I don't collect passport stamps, not every place stamps.[/QUOTE]A simile is lost on you, isn't it?

[QUOTE=ThomKatt;1697254]{S N I P}
There's little to no difference. Here are a few:
1. They can speak more English.
2. Cantonese is their primary language, they will know a decent amount of Mandarin. Southern Mainlanders will know Cantonese and Mandarin almost on equal levels. There's also differences in slang.
3. HK girls are more westernized than southern mainlanders.
4. It's an international city, they have more of an open mind.
5. They enjoy more civil and political rights than their mainland counterparts.
{S N I P}[/QUOTE]I generally agree with your listing of slight differences, although with the influx of migrant workers, it is common to find GD WGs that cannot speak Cantonese. But apart from the slight slang differences, none of the differences that you cite are really relevant in the context of banging a Cantonese speaking WG. And particularly as the original reason that you wrote was:

[QUOTE=ThomKatt;1688537](S N I P}
I can speak cantonese and want to be able to chat with one.
{S N I P }[/QUOTE]However, I can think of a few other differences which are relevant to WGs:

1. HKers often have better teeth than PRC girls (I don't understand why they don't get their teeth fixed).
2. PRC girls have better bodies (harder) than HK girls (less deep fried peanut butter sandwiches, although the popularity of Maccas is starting to change that).
3. Service from a CP ISO standard trained WG can be unforgettable.

Just my opinion.

Ikksman

P.S. Thanks for the FR - appreciated.
P.P.S. PRC supermodel type girls are rare as they are quickly snapped up, often becoming ernai to rich Chinese.

[QUOTE=Ebauche;1697478]A simile is lost on you, isn't it?[/QUOTE]Just like a vegetable is lost on you. Because you're fat. And ugly. And have bad breath.

[QUOTE=Ikksman;1697544]I generally agree with your listing of slight differences, although with the influx of migrant workers, it is common to find GD WGs that cannot speak Cantonese. But apart from the slight slang differences, none of the differences that you cite are really relevant in the context of banging a Cantonese speaking WG. And particularly as the original reason that you wrote was:

However, I can think of a few other differences which are relevant to WGs:

1. HKers often have better teeth than PRC girls (I don't understand why they don't get their teeth fixed).
2. PRC girls have better bodies (harder) than HK girls (less deep fried peanut butter sandwiches, although the popularity of Maccas is starting to change that).
3. Service from a CP ISO standard trained WG can be unforgettable.

Just my opinion.

Ikksman

P.S. Thanks for the FR - appreciated.
P.P.S. PRC supermodel type girls are rare as they are quickly snapped up, often becoming ernai to rich Chinese.[/QUOTE]I did notice that a lot of HKers have better teeth, but it's probably because they have access to cheaper and better dental care. It really comes down to genetics. I don't think nice teeth are all that important to mainlanders, I currently live in Shanghai. They actually think crooked teeth are cuter, and they cover their mouths when they laugh. I did mention that mainlanders have better bodies, but that could also be a case by case basis.

What is a CP ISO standard?

Like I mentioned, I'm a Chinese person living abroad. We mainly only know Cantonese, and have Hong Kong media as part of our lives. I can understand someone from Hong Kong better than someone from Guang Dong province. It was hard to understand people from Macau, Shenzhen, and Guangzhou. But I could understand fully someone from Hong Kong. There's less of a Mandarin influence, and English tones are present. I can't explain it. It would be like saying I can easily understand the basic American accent, but when it comes to Australian, British, Irish, South African, Southern American accents, I can't grasp them fully, though I can understand most of it.

[QUOTE=ThomKatt;1697589]Just like a vegetable is lost on you. Because you're fat. And ugly. And have bad breath.[/QUOTE]Seriously? Are you still in primary school to resort to schoolyard taunts?

[QUOTE=ThomKatt;1697630]I

Like I mentioned, I'm a Chinese person living abroad. We mainly only know Cantonese, . .[/QUOTE]And yet a couple days back in your Vietnam report, you were half Vietnamese?

[QUOTE=FreebieFan;1698359]And yet a couple days back in your Vietnam report, you were half Vietnamese?[/QUOTE]He said half chinese, half vietnamese in this other post.

[QUOTE=Ebauche;1698329]Seriously? Are you still in primary school to resort to schoolyard taunts?[/QUOTE]Awwww, are your little feelings hurt? I'm sooowwwweeeee

[QUOTE=FreebieFan;1698359]And yet a couple days back in your Vietnam report, you were half Vietnamese?[/QUOTE]The Vietnam report mentions me being PART Vietnamese many times. Which means the other part is Chinese. I dunno why people would lie about their ethnicity / nationality online.

[QUOTE=Traveler1234;1698360]He said half chinese, half vietnamese in this other post.[/QUOTE]Thanks for paying attention.

This year my trip would be split between Hong Kong, China and one of my favourite adult playgrounds, Philippines. I was looking forward to experiencing Hong Kong's exciting scene but my time in China would be mainly as a tourist. In Philippines I'd be visiting Manila and the 'supermarket of sex', Angeles. To give you some context for my diary, I'm a 40 year old English man and although I enjoy massage parlours and gogo bars, I love the thrill of the hunt. I have picked up girls from brothels, nightclubs, X-houses and even from the street.

Day 1, Hong Kong.

I was really excited as my Qatar Airways plane soared in to land at Hong Kong. I had six days to do some sight-seeing and explore the sex scene. Prior to my trip I did hours of online research and decided to rule out taking a freelance girl from one of the Wanchai bars. The prices are high, especially for lady-drinks, but my main reason was that later in my trip I'd be spending ten days in Philippines so why pay sky-high prices for Filipinas in Hong Kong when I'll be getting them for far less a fortnight later? Instead I'd concentrate my efforts on the 141 apartments that can be found dotted around the city. They seemed to contain a huge supply of very pretty girls.

This dictated where I chose to stay. Since I wouldn't be taking any girls back to my room, I opted to slum it in the cheap backpacker area of Tsim Tsar Shui. Hotels are expensive in Hong Kong so all money saved would be reinvested on girls! My research also revealed that there are lots of 141 apartments in Tsim Shar Tsui, as well as nearby in Mongkok and Kowloon.

I took the Express Train from the Airport ($90 HK) to Central which took 20 minutes. There are free buses laid on from Central to various destinations and 15 minutes later I was dwarfed by skyscrapers in down-town Hong Kong, standing in front of the infamous Chungking Mansions. It might sound grand but it is 17 storeys of backpacker hostels, rooms crammed as tightly as possible together. I took a lift up to Ashoka Hotel on the 16th floor and my room was like a shoe-box, little more than a hard single bed, a bedside table and a tiny bathroom. But that's what $200 HK a night gets you in Hong Kong! I had to laugh, I lay on my bed and it was possible to touch facing walls with my outstretched arms!

It was early afternoon and after two long flights and 20 hours of travel, I felt exhausted. I decided to sleep for three hours to try and stave off jetlag. When I woke it was 5 pm and I took a shower to wake myself up. I felt excited when I realised that I was about to find my first girl of the trip and get my first experience of the 141 apartments I'd read so much about. I opted to start by visiting Foremost Building in Jordan, for a few reasons. Firstly it was nearby, secondly it seemed to have a good stock of pretty girls and thirdly, if I didn't find a girl I liked there were several other 141 apartment blocks nearby.

It's a short walk from Tsim Tsar Shui but the building was not easy to find. It's address is 19-21 Jordan Road but not many of the buildings have numbers and there was no big sign above the entrance (except for a red 'Yau King hotel' sign which is easy to miss). I found it after about 15 minutes of walking around. It was just one high rise skyscraper surrounded by many others and at street level little more than a staircase sandwiched between shops. It's located very close to one of the Jordan MTR exits.

It was 6 pm when I walked inside. There is a lift but I opted to take the stairs, which smelled like a public toilet. The building has 15 floors and I randomly chose to start on the 5th. Immediately I saw the tell-tale pink lighting that signifies working girls. The first small corridor contained four doors, each of which had pink fairy lights surrounding the door frame. The doors had no photos or English writing. I noticed two young Chinese men knock on B1. The door swung open and I got my first look at one of the girls. She was a foxy 30-something woman with big tits. A promising start.

The layout for each floor was the same. A corridor wrapped around the lift and stairwell, off which there were maybe two or three other corridors, each with 2, 3 or 4 doors illuminated pink. If the lights are on, the girls are home, but if the lights are switched off then either it's their day off or they've finished for the day.

Prior to the trip I had made a note of some of the prettiest girls from the 141 website and on the 10th floor I found one of them. Her apartment was C2 and there were lots of photos taped to the door. They were the same photos I'd seen online, of her slim curvaceous body and pretty face (her face had been blurred in the photos but it was easy to see that she was a nice looking girl). I rang the bell but there was no answer. I waited for a few seconds and knocked. No answer. The lights were on so perhaps she was busy inside. Another of the girls I noted was Joey in B3 on the 11th floor, but just as I lifted my hand to knock on her door, I heard groaning coming from inside. I was too late. On the 12th floor three girls were chatting outside one of the doors. One of them called 'Hello' to me and pointed at her busty friend. She wasn't my type facially but had the kind of body I like.

I was loving my first experience of the 141 apartments, wandering from floor to floor, exploring these illuminated corridors. This is the kind of pay-for-play I enjoy with nice girls hidden away, just waiting to be found. It felt like a treasure hunt.

I decided to try another apartment block located nearby, 66 Parkes Street. This time it was easy to find. Walking down Austin Road from the Nathan Road junction, Parkes Street is clearly signposted the 2nd road on the right. I found number 66 easily. It was a similar building to Foremost with an old lift and a dirty back stairwell. Again I had made notes of some of my favourite girls, so I headed straight to the 5th floor to find KK, a red-head with a lovely slim, sexy body. She was in apartment A1 but when she answered the door she was probably five years older than the photos I had seen. She was still sexy but her cute innocent appeal had evaporated. I noticed that unlike Foremost Building, lots of the doors had photos on them. Apartment B1 had some stunning modelesque photos taped to the door but again when I rang the doorbell, an older version answered with a bit more weight on her hips. She was still extremely sexy but her photos were several years out of date. She quoted me $500 HK for 45 minutes and I was tempted but decided against. I'd go back to Foremost building instead where the girls seemed generally younger and prettier.

It was now 7 pm and time to find my first girl of the trip. I took the lift up to the 5th floor and headed straight to B1 to find the very first girl I had seen, with the sexy body. I didn't need to ring her bell, she was standing in her doorway chatting with another sexy girl. Both had enticing figures and were in a similar state of undress, wearing no more than a skimpy bra and panties. I would happily have fucked either of them but I decided to go up to the 10th floor instead where I'd seen some pretty girls earlier. As ever in situations like this, it felt like a game of blackjack. Should I stick or twist?

Corridor E on the 10th floor had several doors and as I was reading the posters on one of them, E3 opened and a girl shouted 'Hello'. I turned around and saw a youthful looking girl with a pretty face and a stellar body stood in the doorway. She smiled and immediately I knew that I'd found my girl. Her name was Gi Gi and she was 24 years old. She quoted me $500 HK for one hour and said that she'd even give me a massage too. After a long day of travel, that sounded like heaven. I walked in to the room and there was another girl sitting on the bed eating noodles from a carton. Two girl special I thought? Sadly the girl stood up and left and Gi Gi closed the door behind her.

The first thing I noticed in the room was a TV screen that had images from the CCTV camera above her door. That's obviously how Gi Gi had seen me lingering near her door. The room was small, with a single bed against one wall and a massage table in the middle. The single bed had a mirror alongside it and there was a small bathroom with a tall pile of fresh towels neatly laid out next to it. The room had a lived-in feel with lots of clutter on every available surface.

We got undressed and I admired her perfect body. She had lovely pert breasts with big nipples. We showered together and then when we had dried off, she asked me to lie face down on the massage bench. It was a good firm massage and she used her elbows and forearms to relax me after my long day of travel. "You've done this before" I joked. She leaned her face close to mine and said "I give you two hours for $1000". I had to laugh. Normally girls dangle the carrot of a reduced price for the second hour but she'd just doubled her original price! I told her that I just wanted one hour and she offered me body-to-body for an extra 100. She had a sensational body so I was tempted but before I had chance to answer she told me that she would do it for free anyway.

She told me to lie on the bed and proceeded to lean over me and rub her tits lightly over my chest. This is a real turn-on for me and before long I was rock hard. She rolled a condom on to me and gave me a blowjob. As she slowly sucked I noticed that she had a hairy, untamed Bush. I'd heard that some of these Chinese girls can have hairy pussies and now I'd witnessed it with my own eyes. After a while she applied a liberal squirt of lube and tried to lower herself on to me. She grimaced, then stopped and lifted herself off and asked me to go on top. We switched positions and she whimpered as I slowly slid in. I asked if she was okay and she nodded. "You the size of two Hong Kong men" she said. Haha. I was gentle with her and soon I was sliding in and out easily and she was thrusting her hips at mine. I tried to kiss her on the lips but she angled her head away and told me "no kiss customer". I tried to suck her erect nipples but she told me "no, not like".

Prior to every trip I go on an enforced drought for a few months, so I couldn't get enough of her. I placed her ankles on my shoulders which made her pussy tight as I fucked her harder. She tightly clutched the pillow behind her head and groaned loudly. After a few minutes she asked me to lie back and climbed on top of me in Asian cowgirl, both feet planted on the bed. She struggled to ride me earlier but now she rode me easily as I squeezed her perfect tits. I enjoyed the thrill of being rode energetically by such a sexy girl, as I saw customers standing outside her door on the CCTV monitor, admiring her pictures.

It reminded me an experience at Amsterdam's Red Light District with only two positions and no kissing but despite the restricted menu I loved every moment. She was a great girl and wow, what a body. We showered again and got changed. I asked for a photo of her but she politely refused. I gave her a decent tip anyway as she'd given me a free massage at the start and a free body-to-body massage too. She deserved it.

I was hungry so had some fried rice at a small restaurant on Parkes Street. As I ate I reflected on an excellent night. I'd enjoyed my first taste of the 141 apartments and had fucked a sexy young Chinese girl. It had been an excellent start to my time in Hong Kong.

Great report Sir Lance. Now I will be checking everyday for your updates.

[QUOTE=SirLancelot;1699111]As I ate I reflected on an excellent night. I'd enjoyed my first taste of the 141 apartments and had fucked a sexy young Chinese girl. It had been an excellent start to my time in Hong Kong.[/QUOTE]Brilliant! Brought back memories!

Can't wait for my next trip and will seriously think of missing out the Wan chai bars for a change, although I do like the (expensive) chase.

Day 2, Hong Kong.

Despite my modest digs and rock-hard bed, I slept like a log. Yesterday had been a great introduction to Hong Kong's 141 apartments and I was excited to visit some more again tonight.

But first, time for some sightseeing. It was a glorious sunny morning so I took the MTR to Central and then a tram up to 'the Peak', a large viewing deck that gives fantastic views over Hong Kong. I gazed out and there were skyscrapers as far as my eyes could see, disappearing in to a smoggy haze. Afterwards I took the famous 'Star Ferry' across Victoria Harbour. There were two female Chinese tourists, one of whom I'd place comfortably in the 10/10 bracket. She was tall and skinny with a models face. Like a lot of pretty girls she wore a pair of sunglasses that were far too big for her.

Next I went to Tsim Sha Tsui Tourist Information Centre. I needed to book a train ticket for the next leg of my trip, to Guilin. A pretty girl told me that I needed to go one stop down the line to Hung Hom Station and book at China Railway Ltd. I found it easily and was delighted to discover that I could go on an 'Express' G train that would only take four hours (my research had incorrectly revealed that my only option was a 16 hour sleeper train). Not only was it cheaper ($350 HK) but it meant I'd get to spend an extra night in Hong Kong. I'd planned to spend five nights here but this piece of news meant I had a bonus sixth night. Result! Note, if you are booking train tickets for mainland China, make sure you have your passport with you.

Train ticket in my pocket and a spring in my step, I found a large restaurant near my hotel in Tsim Shar Tsui. There weren't any tourists, just lots of hungry locals. I had king prawn wantons in a broth as well as spicy Yunnan style chicken wings. Both were delicious and I even managed to devour the lot with chopsticks. The waitress had given me a fork but I stubbornly refused to use it.

I'd had a great day but it was time to find another girl. I had a shower and shave back at my hotel and the time was 9. 30 pm by the time I was ready.

Prior to the trip I'd spent a lot of time on the 141 website and had drawn up a list of my favourite girls. One in particular stood out, an ultra-cute girl in Mong Kok called Yukie. I had underlined her name and just in case I was in any doubt, scribbled a star next to her name too. There were several other 141 apartments blocks nearby so if I couldn't find Yukie (or if her photos were misleading) then I had other options tucked up my sleeve.

I walked to Tsim Tsar Shui MTR, swiped my Octopus card and went three stops down the line to Mong Kok. Getting around on public transport in Hong Kong is easy thanks to the Octopus card. They cost $150 HK, which gives you $100 HK credit and you simply swipe them as you enter and leave any MTR station. You can top it up as much as you like at any station and anything left over at the end of your trip can be redeemed.

At Mong Kok I walked a few blocks to Tung Choi Street. It had lots of small Japanese, Korean and Chinese restaurants and market stalls lined the middle of the street selling clothes, shoes and mobile phone accessories. I found number 80 and entered. It was a smaller apartment block than the places I visited last night with less floors and subsequently less girls but I didn't mind as I was only interested in one. I headed straight to the 3rd floor and rang the bell on Flat E.

After my experiences last night I expected an older version to answer, so was pleasantly surprised when the door opened and a lovely girl answered with a fair resemblance to the photos on the website. She was clearly a few years older but retained the cuteness that had appealed to me in the first place. She was pale-skinned and had a half Japanese look I like with long brown hair and a chopped fringe. Her hair was frizzled like she was auditioning for an 80's pop video. She wore big false eye-lashes and a her skimpy maid outfit revealed a curvy body with full natural tits. She was exactly the kind of girl I like to go for. She quoted me $500 HK for the 'full service' and giggled as I walked inside. I got the impression that she didn't get many foreign customers.

It was a small, cluttered room with a single bed, above which six uniforms hung from the ceiling. There were two school uniforms as well as a black lacy one. A pink bra lay discarded on a Hello Kitty pillow. There were posters on the wall and a catchy Asian pop song was playing on her phone. We got undressed and showered together in a small bathroom. She lathered me up with soap and rinsed me in the warm water as I admired her body. She hardly spoke a word of English but giggled almost constantly, especially when she noticed that my dick had already sprung to life. I knew I was going to have a good time.

On to the bed we went and she gave me a nice covered blowjob before lying back and spreading her legs. She was tight so I fucked her slowly and she even kissed, albeit with her mouth closed. After a few minutes I leaned upright and fucked her harder, watching her tits wobble like jellies. She was enjoying herself too, squeezing her tits with one hand and rubbing her clit with the other. Next I lay behind her and spooned her. Each time I thrust in all the way, she gasped and pulled my hair. She rolled on to her stomach and I continued to fuck her from behind, slapping in to her arse cheeks as I built up the pace. I like to finish with the girl on top and it was a great sight being rode to a climax by such a cute girl. She collapsed on top of me and we lay there glistening with sweat as we tried to get our breaths back. It was good sex with a great girl.

She was in no rush afterwards. We cuddled up and although she didn't speak a word of English, we communicated via an app on her phone. She told me that she used to be a beautician and I told her about my job in England. Back and forth her phone went. She explained that she was due to meet another customer at 11 pm otherwise she would have liked me to stay all night. I didn't realise long-time was an option in these 141 walk-ups. She was definitely a 'keeper', the kind of girl I'd like to meet again and again if I lived in Hong Kong. However, in my short time here I wanted to go with as many girls as possible. It's always good to have options though so I took her mobile number.

We showered and got changed and she even allowed me to take a few photos. What a great girl. There might have been a language barrier but she was lots of fun and had a great attitude. Girls like Yukie are the reason why I travel to the other side of the world every year.

Another thing worth mentioning is that for the second night in a row I had forgotten to take along my own condoms which sometimes can be a problem in Asia. But the condoms supplied on both nights were absolutely fine and not too small (like those in Thailand's massage parlours for example).

On the way back to my hotel I spotted a streetwalker lingering under some gnarled old trees on Nathan Road. She was a mature 30-something woman wearing a red dress. She had a nice face, slim body and long legs. As I walked past a Chinese man tentatively approached her to talk numbers. A little further along near Tsim Shar Tsui MTR a tout whispered 'psst, you want lady?' Despite the fact Hong Kong has a very visible sex scene in the 141 apartments and Wan Chai, there is a seedy street scene too.

I got back to my hotel and on the ground floor pressed the button for the lift. There are two lifts, one for odd floors and one for even but they are very slow and sometimes you can be waiting for five minutes. My room is on the 16th so when the 'odd' door opened I decided to take that lift and walk up to my room from the 15th. As I took the stairs, two black women were ahead of me who definitely fell in to the category 'big black mamas'. They were definitely all about the bass. One of them smiled over her shoulder to me and said "come up to my room with me, baby".

I got back to my room and collapsed on to my bed. I was still tired due to jet-lag but part of me regretted not taking the black woman up on her invitation. I love black girls and although she was probably twice the age of the girls I go for in Asia (not to mention twice the weight) she could probably teach me a thing or two!

I was enjoying my time in Hong Kong. There is loads of touristy stuff to do during the day, the food is fantastic and I had fucked two great girls so far. I couldn't wait until tomorrow to do it all again.

[QUOTE=SirLancelot;1699499]{S N I P}
Next I went to Tsim Sha Tsui Tourist Information Centre. I needed to book a train ticket for the next leg of my trip, to Guilin. A pretty girl told me that I needed to go one stop down the line to Hung Hom Station and book at China Railway Ltd. I found it easily and was delighted to discover that I could go on an 'Express' G train that would only take four hours (my research had incorrectly revealed that my only option was a 16 hour sleeper train). Not only was it cheaper ($350 HK) but it meant I'd get to spend an extra night in Hong Kong. I'd planned to spend five nights here but this piece of news meant I had a bonus sixth night. Result! Note, if you are booking train tickets for mainland China, make sure you have your passport with you.
{S N I P}[/QUOTE]Excellent report. I enjoyed the accurate detail.

I think that the G trains to Guilin leave from Shenzhen North, not Shenzhen. Bit of a trap, but some Chinese cities have multiple high speed train stations. PM me if you need more info.

By the way, I recommend that you try the hard sleeper just for the experience. I once went from Shenzhen to Changsha overnight via hard sleeper and 3 of the other berths were occupied by young factory girls from Longgang who made the long trip much more enjoyable. The other 2 berths were occupied by 2 disapproving aunties, which also added to the fun, along with the sundry comments from passersby (the 6 berth compartments are totally open to the passing corridor traffic).

Ikksman.

Sir Lancelot, your reports do you proud. Well done and thanks for the effort you have taken.

[QUOTE=Stykler;1699624]Sir Lancelot, your reports do you proud. Well done and thanks for the effort you have taken.[/QUOTE]Sir Lancelot,

Great reports. Very useful info like getting an Octopus card. It is a must for using the MTR, the bus system and the trams.

I don't recall you mentioning whether you have actually checked out the Wanchai bar scene, but if you enjoy a beer or 2 I would definitely.

Encourage you to check the place out one evening if you have never been. I really enjoyed Amazonia when I was there even though I didn't take any of the ladies home. I was told the ladies want HK1500 to HK2000 for the night. The 2 Filipino bands they have playing there are very entertaining. While there are definitely a fair share of Filipinas there, (most gave me the here on 14 day tourist visa reply, have no idea if that is true or not) you also will find many Indonesian ladies as well as some from Mongolia. I particularly enjoyed taking my beer outside to have a smoke and met some incredibly interesting characters out there. And since you like the darker ladies, there were ladies out there from Uganda and Jamaica as I don't think Amazonia lets them inside the bar. Across the street is Joe Bananas which also has a pretty decent band and Escape is down the street.

If you enjoy live music there is also a place called the Wanch which has an interesting variety of live bands but is not a place with working girls. I enjoyed going there for a break from the bars with working girls.

When I was in TST I actually wandered into the Mansion and that first floor is quite a place. The lines at the elevator were quite long and the touts around there are a definite pain.

Day 3, Hong Kong.

I really like Hong Kong. It's a modern city that feels different feel from other Asian cities I've visited. The streets are clean, there are no gaping holes in the pavements and I've yet to see a beggar or homeless person. Even the traffic seems civilised and there isn't the incessant honking of horns that forms the soundtrack to most Asian cities. My hotel might be in the backpacker area of Tsim Shar Tsui but shoppers still walk around with designer shopping bags while chatting on their smartphones. In fact I've never known people use their phones so much. I seem to be constantly swerving to avoid bumping in to people who are too busy tap-tap-tapping away on their phones to look where they are walking!

After a few hours of sightseeing I got back to my hotel and logged on to the 141 website. Lots of the better looking girls are known as 'Young Buddies' which means that their address isn't listed. Instead there is a phone number and you must call it to arrange an appointment. Some of them are stunners. I spotted one named Aiai in Kwun Tong who was cuteness personified. She was a 18 year old with a fashionable bobbed haircut and small breasts. On the other end of the spectrum I spotted a girl in San Po Kong with the biggest natural tits I have ever seen (F-cup no less!) She had a pretty face too, so I decided to try and book her for early evening. If she was anywhere near as spectacular as her pictures suggested, she'd be one to remember for a long time. In terms of cost her profile said $600, but it didn't specify what that was for.

I dialed the number on her profile and a male voice answered. I had expected this as these girls have managers who deal with appointments. The idea is that they tell you where to go and when you get there they tell you the door number. "Hi, I'd like to book an appointment for 7 pm" I said. The man said something in Mandarin and there was silence. I repeated myself, slower and clearer, but he hung up. Obviously he didn't speak any English. I tried calling again but there was no answer. I cursed. The girl of my fantasies had slipped through my fingers due to the language barrier.

I re-opened Aiai's profile. She looked gorgeous in her pics, like an anime cartoon character with a cute smile and big dark eyes. Her profile said she charged $800 HK for 'full service' which is significantly higher than what I had paid so far but worth every cent given the quality of the girl. I dialed her number and this time a middle-aged woman answered. Again she didn't understand what I was trying to say. She repeated something in Mandarin a few times before hanging up. It was a shame. Some of the 'Young Buddies' are very pretty but it seems they are out of my reach as I can't speak Mandarin.

Not to worry, Hong Kong has plenty of girls to choose from. I would concentrate my efforts on walk-ups instead.

But first I needed to eat. Tsim Tsar Shui has plenty of restaurants and I found a good one near my hotel. I had clam stir-fry and a side portion of spicy cauliflower which was almost as tasty as the two female waitresses. I regard myself as a bit of a 'foodie' and it's fair to say that Hong Kong is certainly delivering on that front.

The closest 141 apartment to my hotel is James S Lee Mansion, which seemed to have a large stock of pretty girls on the website. Again it proved problematic to find. Walking up Nathan Road I turned right on to Carnarvon Road and followed the street as it bent round to the left. I was looking for numbers 33-35 but the problem is that numbers are few and far between. I walked up and down both sides of the street, past the multitude of clothes shops and restaurants. A couple of mature women standing at the junction with Humphreys Avenue asked "body massage sir?" One of them added "Here I give you card, can send young girl".

After 15 minutes of head-scratching I worked out where James S Lee Mansion is. Although the address is 33-35 Carnarvon Road, the entrance is actually just round the corner on Prat Avenue.

I walked inside at 9. 30 pm and headed straight for the 6th floor to see if I could find Kawaii. She was a pretty girl I'd spotted online with a great face and body but my main reason for seeking her is that I have always wanted to go with a girl with red hair. And by that I don't mean ginger or red tinged (been with plenty of those!) I mean bright red. I found her apartment, 604 A, but a sign on the door said 'Patty, new girl'. The lights around the door were off but I knocked anyway. No-one answered. In a strange way I was pleased. As much as I wanted to meet Kawaii, I love the thrill of the hunt and where's the fun going with the first girl you see? It was exciting to think that somewhere in this building was a girl I'd end up fucking. I just needed to find her.

James S Lee Mansion has eight floors of girls. The 9th floor contains private flats and when I stepped out on to the 10th I found myself on the roof! Although there are less floors than previous 141 apartments I had visited, each floor has three or four corridors shooting off at different angles, each with five or six doors. As a result it means a bigger selection of girls. There were two or three customers wandering about on each floor, almost exclusively Chinese men in their 20's. Again I was the only westerner.

On the 2nd floor I found a door with three signs written on fluorescent card, 'Korean Chinese mix', 'sexy bottom' and 'air stewardess uniform'. The 3rd floor had five separate corridors illuminated pink and each contained five doors illuminated by lights. A sexy girl wearing just a bra and panties ran past, knocked on a door and disappeared inside. I noticed another door had 'Kawaii' written on it, the name of the girl I was looking for on the 6th floor. But just as I was about to knock, a short Chinese man beat me to it. A pretty girl answered but she didn't have red hair. The man walked away without a word and the door closed. I am surprised by the lack of courtesy from lots of the Chinese customers. They speculatively knock on lots of doors and just walk away if they're not interested. The girls must be up and down like a yoyo. It did however mean that I was getting to see lots of girls and once again the standard was good.

I went up to the 4th floor to find another girl I'd seen online, Rainy. I found 407 be and rang the bell but no-one answered. The lights were on so I presumed she was with another customer. I listened carefully and could hear running water. She was obviously having a shower. I continued my search, walking from floor to floor, door to door. On the 7th floor I noticed a series of photos on one door of a very pretty blond-haired European girl. I rang the bell and strangely an Asian girl answered. She was sexy with lots of curves, a definite contender, but why the misleading photos?

I found my girl shortly afterwards. I was reading the signs in one corridor when the door for apartment 701 see swung open. A pretty girl was stood in the doorway wearing a skimpy outfit that revealed a slim, sexy figure. I always think it lacks etiquette asking a girl straight away "how much?" so I stepped closer and asked what her name was. She was Lina and she was 25 years old from Beijing. "You are beautiful" I told her, a line I imagined to be delivered with devastating James Bond like smoothness. After some flirty small-talk I asked her how much and she told me it would cost 500 for the 'full service'. I stepped inside.

The room was standard fare. There was a single bed with a TV mounted on the wall opposite showing the CCTV footage from outside. That was obviously how she saw me lingering. I admired her body as she got undressed and then we showered in a small bathroom. One of the things I like about these 141 experiences is that the girls will happily shower with customers. It's always a good way to break the ice and Lina had a lovely slim body with firm breasts. My dick voted yes. Unlike Gi Gi and Yukie she spoke reasonable English so we chatted as we dried ourselves off.

We lay on the bed and she started to lick my neck and chest and then slowly kissed, licked and teased her way down my body. This always drives me crazy and before long she was giving me an uncovered blowjob while scraping her fingernails down my chest. This girl knew how to please. She rolled a condom on to me and then lay back on the bed, legs spread invitingly. I slid in to her pussy and fucked her slowly, grinding my hips in to hers. Suddenly she pulled my head towards hers and began kissing me passionately, thrusting her tongue in to my mouth. Kissing is the ultimate turn-on for me as it turns the act of sex in to something far more special. Third time lucky and I'd found the girlfriend experience I crave.

As I fucked her harder, she groaned louder and louder. At one point she was on her back, ankles on my shoulders, and she groaned so loudly everyone on the block could probably hear! She was the noisiest fuck I've ever had. She clearly loved sex. She rubbed her clit and gasped "oh yeah, oh yeah" as I pounded away. We tried a number of positions before she rode me energetically to a climax. As we showered afterwards she told me that I was her first English customer.

I was impressed with James S Lee Mansion. For exploration purposes I liked the layout and there were lots of girls too. I'd seen plenty of pretty ones and once again had fucked another great girl who provided me with some spectacular sex. The best thing about James S Lee Mansion though is its handy location, just a five minute walk from my hotel. I could return on another night, perhaps to find Kawaii.

I left the building and walked back towards my hotel. On the bend on Carnarvon Road the same woman as earlier offered me "body massage" and "pretty girls". I declined. Not only had I just been fucked senseless by a hot young nympho but I don't see the point of using a 'middle-man' to find a girl in places like Hong Kong. At the top of Hanoi Road I saw a sign for Sunny Island Sauna. Underneath a photo of a gorgeous girl it said $456 HK for 90 minutes. I'm not sure in these places if extras can be negotiated but I assume if they could they would be very expensive. I also doubted whether I'd get a girl anywhere near the quality of the girl on the poster if I chose to enter.

As I lay in bed trying to get to sleep, I reflected on my time in Hong Kong so far. It had delivered in almost every area. There is loads to do during the day, the food is great and the 141 apartments are great fun. I'd been with three fantastic girls so far and I still had three days left before my train to Guilin. I was excited to see what tomorrow brings.

Looks like lots of girls in WC bars for the 7's even in the middle of the day. Friday I walked by a Filipina girl sitting at an outdoor table at one of the Lockhart Bars, can't remember which one but it's close to the White Stag, her name was Christina and she had a friend with her who was less attractive with some red highlights in her hair. Wasn't planning on picking up but why not, surprisingly there was no markup for the 7's and we quickly agreed on 1000ST. She took me to a hotel called King's Pillow which is right above the White Stag (didn't know it was there), surprisingly owned by a Filipina, which was as shabby as the Ming Court with yellow and orange canvas drapes straight out of the 70's but much cleaner and not smelling of mould and mildew which is always a plus. Pretty standard fuck, shower before and after, about 45 minutes to pluck, fuck and chuck and was back on my way. There's nothing to recommend her but nothing wrong with her either.

Have fun and stay safe.

Day 4, Hong Kong.

It would be criminal to come to Hong Kong and not explore the city and do some sight-seeing. It's always important to have at least a few photos to show the folks back home. I took the MTR to Central and then a bone-shaking tram to the old Sheung Wan District. It was an interesting way to spend a few hours, walking through the food markets, past dried fish hanging next to the road and bird nest shops. I walked past parks and temples and ate at a restaurant that specialises in flame-grilled goose. I got chatting with a Kiwi expat and his 20 year old daughter who was breathtakingly pretty, with a face like Uma Thurman in Pulp Fiction.

Fortunately, any sexual frustration of meeting girls you can't have is easily alleviated in Hong Kong. I was in the Causeway area so decided to pay Fuji Building on Lockhart Road a visit. It only has a few girls listed on the 141 website but is much talked about online and receives lots of positive reports, so I felt it was worth a visit. It was easy to find. Wan Chai and Causeway MTR stations are located on Hennessy Road and Lockhart Road runs parallel nearby. Fuji Building is 381-383 Lockhart Road, close to the junction with Marsh Road. The nearest MTR station is Causeway although Wan Chai is comfortable walking distance too.

The entrance was grander than other 141 apartment blocks I had visited and I could see my reflection in the polished surfaces. It was 6 pm. I got in to the lift with five Chinese men and we stood in silence as we climbed to the top of the building. Immediately when I stepped out on to the 21st floor I saw a girl standing in her doorway, wearing skimpy underwear and black stockings, smiling and flirting with customers who walked past. I guess she was late twenties and had a spectacular figure. It was a promising start.

The layout was different to other apartment blocks. It was a much narrower building with a tight, compact layout with just five or six doors on each floor. On each floor I'd take a few sharp lefts, pass several doors and then I'd be going down a flight of stairs to the floor below. Just one corridor spirals its way down from the the 21st floor to the 1st. In terms of customers it was busier than previous apartments with a steady stream of Chinese men walking around. Again I was the only westerner.

A chubby Chinese man rang one of the bells on the 20th floor. A slim girl answered and the man shuffled away without a word. It can't be great for the girls self-esteem (or general mood even). If ever I ring a bell I'll smile and say Hello, and pay her a compliment, even if by that point I know I'm not interested. Maybe I'm too polite? I'm aware that my small-talk is wasting both of our time but I always try to respect the girls. Lots of the Chinese customers conduct their search in a very cold, businesslike manner that I think belittles the girls.

On the 17th floor I saw a Chinese man with grey hair walk in to A3, where a petite girl with glasses closed the door. Three floors below on the 14th floor a pretty girl called Lily was stood in a doorway and chimed "Come eeeen" as I walked past. B2 on the 6th floor had 'sexy pole dance' written on the door so I couldn't resist ringing. "Wait" I heard a female voice say from inside. I lingered for thirty seconds but the door didn't open so I turned to walk away. "WAIT!" the voice said louder. I felt like a naughty schoolkid but did as I was told. Thirty seconds later the door opened and a rather sheepish looking Chinese man walked out and brushed past me. Behind him was a busty looking pro with a devilish glint in her eye. She was the type who was guaranteed wild sex (and I bet the pole dance would be fun too) but I had to draw a line. I know these girls go with lots of guys but I can't knowingly fuck a girl so soon after another guy.

Once again I was having lots of fun. These 141 apartment blocks are like goldmines! Fuji has some great girls, all 30 or less and all with slim, sexy bodies. If you've got an ugly girl fetish, Fuji is not the place for you.

I rang B1 on the 4th floor, spurred on by a sign which said '35 the' in big letters. A pretty girl with thick fashionable glasses answered whose large breasts were pressed together tightly in a push-up bra. She was exactly the kind of girl I like but seemed tired. I asked what her name was and she told me "Leann" without a smile. I suppose it's not surprising that these girls can sometimes be dispirited when they're treated like pieces of meat by the large majority of customers who visit.

On the 3rd floor a middle-aged Chinese man rang '3 the' and a cute girl answered. The man looked her up and down, muttered a single word and walked away. The girl started to close the door but then saw me and smiled sweetly. I was tempted but wanted to visit every floor before I made my decision. The man rang the bell next door and a dark-skinned girl answered. She was a stunner. Again the Chinese man wasn't interested but I quickly stepped forward and said Hello. She had a 9/10 face and a curvy figure but she seemed shy and nervous. She barely spoke a word of English and was young, so I suspected that she had never been with a westerner before. A sign on her door said she charged $500 HK for 'full service'.

These apartments are heaven for boob-lovers like me, with lots of girls advertising their large assets. On the 2nd floor I saw a door with 'white skin' and 'D-Cup' written on the door. I rang the bell and a busty Japanese looking woman answered with a spectacular figure. Like most girls in Fuji, she was highly fuckable but facially just not quite my type. On the 1st floor there was a girl with even bigger breasts. A young Chinese man, probably a teenager, knocked on her door and a woman answered with E-Cup breasts so big it looked like she might topple over if she wasn't careful. The boy obviously liked what he saw because he nodded and walked in to the room. She gave me a smile as she closed the door behind him. She seemed the type who would eat the boy alive but what a way to go!

The time was 7 pm and I'd been exploring Fuji Building for nearly an hour and visited all of the floors. It was now time to take a girl.

The girl I most wanted to take was the sexy young dark-skinned girl on the 3rd floor. I took the lift up to her floor and walked to apartment '4 the' but I heard groans coming from inside. It had only been ten minutes since I spoke to her and in that time she had met a customer, unchanged, showered and was now doing the horizontal tango. Further evidence that if you hesitate in places like this (or indeed massage parlours and gogo bars), your girl can be snapped up by another customer.

I remembered that the girl next door was pretty but when she answered the door she acted cool towards me. Earlier she had been very flirty but now her smile was gone. Perhaps she knew I had come back for the pretty girl next door and didn't like being second choice?

I remembered another girl I liked on the 20th floor. I took the lift up and rang the bell on B2. The door swung open and a lovely girl with long curly hair stood in the doorway wearing black lingerie and a cheeky smile. She had a curvaceous figure with large natural breasts and I knew that I'd found my girl. She told me her name was Joey and I told her that she was beautiful. Even in sleazy pay-for-play set-ups like this I like to try and make it as little like a business transaction as possible. Inevitably money has to be discussed though and she told me it would cost 500 for the 'full service'. Deal.

The room was no more than 5 meters squared with a single bed along the far wall. I immediately noticed that there was a ceiling mirror above it, always a big plus point. The room had the same clutter and lived-in feel as other rooms with cuddly toys laid on the bed next to the pillow. We both got unchanged and I knew I'd made a good choice. Firstly she was very talkative and friendly, despite her limited English. She told me that she is 25 years old and was born in Shanghai. Secondly she had exactly the kind of body I like. She wasn't skinny or fat but had curves in all the right places. We showered and she lathered me with soap, making sure I was spotlessly clean. I reciprocated much to her amusement, rubbing soap over her sexy body, paying special attention to her lovely soft breasts. I'm such a gentleman.

We dried ourselves off and lay on the bed next to each other. She had perfect tits. They reminded me of a joke from the comedian Steve Martin, who said that if he was a woman he'd spend all day at home playing with his breasts. As I was lost in boob heaven, she swiftly put a condom on to my semi-erect dick which is usually a guaranteed way of strangling any life out of it, but she sucked it with lots of mmm's and it looked great in the ceiling mirror, her curly head of hair bobbing up and down on me. I became rock hard.

After a few minutes she sat up and lifted one leg across me before slowly lowering herself on. I held her lovely tits as she rocked back and forth, gripping my dick tightly with her pussy. I was worried I might come too soon, so flipped her on to her back and fucked her slowly in mish. I tried to kiss her but she leaned her head away so I kissed her neck instead and sucked her ear-lobe (I've noticed Asian girls seem to love this). Joey was the fourth girl I've met from the 141 apartments but only two have kissed and one of those was with her mouth closed. It's one of the few negatives I can find for these 141 walk-ups. I notice that on the 141 website lots of the girls advertise 'kissing' in their list of services so perhaps I need to target those more.

I grabbed her hips and fucked her harder. She wrapped her legs around me and her tits wobbled with each thrust. I then manoeuvred her on to her side and lay behind her, fucking her from behind as I squeezed her soft tits. I read somewhere that this position guarantees the deepest penetration so every now and then I'd thrust in as deeply as I could and she threw her head back each time and groaned. Although the room had air-con I was soon sweating, so I lay back and indicated for her to ride me again. But she misunderstood and took the condom off before finishing me with a handjob. She had a good touch though and before long I shot my load up my chest. She gave me some tissues to wipe up the mess she'd made and we both went for a shower.

Once again it was good frantic sex with a sexy girl and emphasised why I enjoy these 141 walk-ups so much. The quality of girls is excellent. I've fucked four pretty young girls, all of them eager to please. Furthermore I loved the process of searching. As much as I love massage parlours and gogo bars, sometimes it feels just too easy to find a girl. I like being made to work a bit and the excitement of wondering what lies around each corner. These apartment blocks reminded me of trawling for sex in Amsterdam's red light district or the X-houses in Sanur, Indonesia.

After she got changed I asked to take her picture but she politely refused. As a picture collector that's the only other negative (as well as lack of kissing) that I can aim at these 141 girls. I said 'goodbye' and kissed her on both cheeks like the old romantic I am, and soon I was on the MTR heading back to Tsim Shar Tsui.

It was 9 pm and I had time to find another girl but I decided I needed a break. This holiday is a marathon, not a sprint I told myself. After Hong Kong I'd be spending a week in China and then 11 days in Philippines. Each trip I challenge myself to sleep with 20 different girls and so far I'd made a solid start of four girls in four days.

I found a bar near my hotel and ended up chatting with a few backpackers. They had been in Asia for six months and had visited several countries, including one of my favourites, Cambodia. They told me about the temples and the beaches they had visited but my eyes glazed over and I fondly recalled the young girls from LeCyrcee in Phnom Penh who gave me a threesome and the wild sex I had with a Vietnamese girl in Siem Reap. We clinked bottles of beer and agreed that travel definitely broadens the mind.

[QUOTE=SirLancelot;1700525]Day 4, Hong Kong.



A chubby Chinese man rang one of the bells on the 20th floor. A slim girl answered and the man shuffled away without a word. It can't be great for the girls self-esteem (or general mood even). If ever I ring a bell I'll smile and say Hello, and pay her a compliment, even if by that point I know I'm not interested. Maybe I'm too polite? I'm aware that my small-talk is wasting both of our time but I always try to respect the girls. Lots of the Chinese customers conduct their search in a very cold, businesslike manner that I think belittles the girls.
.[/QUOTE]But theres 5,000 of wonderful culture that's produced this belittling effect. 5000 years of history to create this gentle socially aware race which connect so well with all other races. 5000 years of emperors and concubines and treating women in a low way have created this group of people for whom manners is a word that doesn't quite exist. To all the Chinese brothers here, apologies, but a few years of living in China brings about this cynical feeling. Regardless, to Sir L, have read al your previous Asian trips and as they say in Hollywood " Love Your Work! ".

[QUOTE=SirLancelot;1700525]Day 4, Hong Kong.[/QUOTE]Wonderful FRs, kind Sir. Keep up the good work.

Agreed, excellent reports Sir L.

[QUOTE=FreebieFan;1700688]But theres 5,000 of wonderful culture that's produced this belittling effect. 5000 years of history to create this gentle socially aware race which connect so well with all other races. 5000 years of emperors and concubines and treating women in a low way have created this group of people for whom manners is a word that doesn't quite exist. To all the Chinese brothers here, apologies, but a few years of living in China brings about this cynical feeling. Regardless, to Sir L, have read al your previous Asian trips and as they say in Hollywood " Love Your Work! ".[/QUOTE]Yet it's the hundreds of years of progressivism and feminism that have created a man hated society in the west. Women treat the men like crap, especially in America. We treat our women well, yet they aren't even being close to thankful. They should be happy they don't live in a 3rd world country or a less developed one. Why do you think so many westerners flock to Asia?

Day 4, Hong Kong.

Sir Lancelot. Thank you for the great reports and details! This will definitely help me on my upcoming trip to HK. Stay safe!

Day 5, Hong Kong.

All of the sightseeing and searching apartment blocks had caught up with me, so I had my first lie-in of the trip. I was woken at 10 am by a washing machine that was rumbling noisily outside my room. Chungking Mansions is not a place to stay if you are looking for peace and quiet.

Once again the weather was el scorchio. I spent the afternoon walking along East Tsim Sha Tsui promenade which offers spectacular views across Victoria Harbour. A section of it was called 'Avenue of the Stars' which had hand-prints of famous people. I didn't recognise most of the names but did find Bruce Lee's which was next to a life-size bronze statue. I found a restaurant nearby where I had spicy pork dumpling soup and nan xiang dim sum. I know I sound like a judge on Masterchef but the food in Hong Kong has been out-of-this-world so far.

So far in Hong Kong I have spent a lot of time exploring 141 apartments but tonight I fancied a change. After researching this trip I made the decision to rule out taking a girl from the Wan Chai bars because girls and drinks are expensive and there is far better value to be found elsewhere. But I love the thrill of picking up girls from freelance bars, in fact later in the trip I'll be visiting my favourite, LA Cafe in Manila. However, there was no way I'd be taking a girl back to my cheap backpacker hotel, so my visit would be for research purposes only. If I did meet a 10/10 girl that I couldn't possibly resist, I'd find a short-time hotel nearby.

I took the MTR to Admiralty and then transferred on to another line to Wan Chai. Outside the station a sparkling Rolls Royce drove past with a personalised three digit number plate. This is the swanky part of the city where businessmen with deep pockets go out to party. That's probably why the prices are so high.

I mistakenly thought the Wan Chai bars would be on Wan Chai Road itself but I was wrong. I walked up and down, from one end of the road to the other and there were shops selling suitcases, mobile phones and vegetables but nothing remotely resembling a bar. I walked back to Wan Chai MTR and scratched my head. As I did so I noticed a tall blonde woman tottering down the sidewalk on high heels. I remembered reading that Russian hookers can be found at Wan Chai so I decided to follow her. I kept my distance as I didn't want to get arrested for stalking and my tactic worked. She walked a few blocks (I became hypnotised watching her jiggling bum in the short skirt she was wearing) then suddenly I was standing on a busy street lined with bars. If in doubt, follow the blonde!

So it's worth noting for first-timers that the Wan Chai bars are not on Wan Chai Road itself, they are predominantly located along Lockhart Road (the same street as Fuji Building) and Jaffe Road. The main concentration seems to be near the junction with Fenwick Street.

On Lockhart Street there were lots of bars and western style pubs with customers spilling out on to the pavement, pint of beer in hand. As well as groups of western men in shirts and ties, there were Asian girls sat in groups of two or three. In Maya there were three dark skinned girls in their thirties, probably from either Philippines or Indonesia. Near the junction of Luard Road I saw a pretty girl standing on the corner in a red mini dress. Along the road I saw bars with names like Typhoon, Superstar, Insiders and Dragon Club and on the next block was Neptune 3 and a pub with the very English name The White Stag. Sat on a stool outside was a mature woman sat cross-legged on a stool, smoking a cigarette. She had massive tits bulging from a top a few sizes too small for her. She was the type of woman I would never consider going with on my trips to Asia but if I saw her in a bar in Manchester, I'd be itching to take her back to my place.

As I walked down the street, Chinese women clutching flyers of pretty girls tried to pull me through red curtains in to their bar. I presume these are the gogo bars that people advised me to avoid (incidentally, no-one elaborated why they should be avoided. I love gogo bars so assume either they're overpriced places where customers get ripped off with lady-drinks or perhaps they are just glorified pole-dancing bars where the girls aren't even available for takeout. Either way, I'd be visiting lots of gogo bars in Angeles later in my trip, where there would be thousands of beautiful Filipina's available for cheap prices, so I didn't feel the urge to find out).

There were some places whose names I recognised from the internet like Waikiki, Makati and Hawaii. I continued walking, past the busy Queen Victoria and then Pub Pipe Bar and Wildcat. On the opposite side of the street was Crossroads, Club Bunny, Rhino and San Francisco. There were certainly plenty of options and with time on my hands I could see how this could be a rich hunting ground. As well as Chinese and south-east Asian girls, apparently there are Mongolian and black girls to be found. It's a bit of an obsession of mine trying to tick different nationalities off my sexual bucket list (aka my 'fuck it list') .

I turned on to Jaffe Road and saw Escape, which has a good reputation for pretty girls. A little further along were Firehouse, Rio and another whose name I recognised, Hong Kong Cafe. This was the bar I was looking for as I had read lots of positive reports online. I walked past the two burly security guards outside, who gave me a friendly nod, and descended the flight of stairs. It was a dark basement bar with just ten customers and a similar number of girls, mostly perched on stools around the bar. It had a sleepy hotel bar feel but the time was only 9. 30 pm and it would surely get livelier later. A female band was playing who had a pretty singer. In fact, on closer inspection, they had a pretty bassist and keyboardist too. They'd draw customers in for sure and the girls would follow.

I ordered a large bottle of Tsing Tao for the eye-watering price of $55 HK and noticed two girls sat along the bar from me. They were both probably late twenties and one of them, wearing a cute check top, smiled over. She was a 7/10 but her friend, wearing a tight blue dress, was an 8/10. Right on cue the band started playing 'Angels' by Robbie Williams and I enjoyed the appropriateness of the chorus "I'm loving angels instead". It could be the soundtrack to my trips to Asia. Ironically their next song, 'Satisfaction' by Rolling Stones, could be the soundtrack to my sex life back in England. "I can't get no satisfaction".

I watched as two pretty girls entered and sat next to the bar. A grey-haired man swooped in like an eagle and offered the prettiest a drink. I was close enough to hear their conversation and wasn't surprised when she told him that she was Filipino. Seeing her slender figure and pretty face gave me a tinge of excitement for the time I'd be spending in Philippines in just over a week.

I finished my beer and left. I wanted to visit a few bars tonight, to get a flavour for the place. Outside Old China Hand I saw a voluptuous black girl. She was probably mid 30's and smiled to me as I walked past. She'd keep me warm at night I thought.

I opted to go in to Neptune 3 next, another bar that gets good reports online. It was 10.10 pm when I walked in and unlike Hong Kong Cafe it was packed full of customers and freelance girls. This is more like it! There was barely anywhere to sit but I found a spare stool at the far end of the bar. I scanned around the room and there were dozens of girls. Some were sitting with customers, mingling, flirting and clinking glasses, others stood in groups at the side of the bar, their heads darting around like meerkats whenever new 'prey' walked in. Almost all of the girls were probably aged between 20 and 30 and although a lot were fairly average, there were some pretty ones too. I spotted a girl in a stripy party dress with long wavy hair and beautiful honey coloured skin. Another nice looker blew a kiss to me from the opposite side of the bar.

Next to me was a Scottish man, who told me that he is a regular at Wan Chai. He was a short man with receding hair and he proudly showed me a photo on his phone of his 24 year old Filipino girlfriend. Girls walking past seemed to know him, including one in a mustard coloured dress with teeth like Luis Suarez. He leaned across to me and told me that his motto is "use them, abuse them, lose them". I decided not to point out that if he had a girlfriend he wasn't following his own advice.

I asked him which bars he recommends in Wan Chai and he said "any, just avoid places with a red curtain". He added that ladydrinks are $300 HK and, in his words, "before you know it you're buying all the girls drinks". That can be an expensive night, especially if you're not getting any action at the end of it.

I stayed for a few drinks. I enjoy freelance venues but this felt more like a regular bar. LA Cafe in Manila for instance is a bear-pit, where the girls are desperate to get their claws in to you. Here felt more relaxed, like a regular bar. It reminded me of Desperado's in Surubaya, a hotel bar in which you need good game to score the pretty girls. An average girl sat next to me, thrust her ample chest in my direction and told me that her name was Ivy. She was half Filipino and half Pakistani (Filistani?) but she wasn't my type. She was too chunky and far too forward. I like to chat and get to know a girl, I don't like being groped within minutes as the girl suggestively licks her lips. "You buy me drink?" she asked before she had even established my name.

The MTR closes at midnight so I decided to finish my beer and head off.

On the way towards the exit I brushed against the pretty girl with wavy hair I'd spotted earlier. She had a lovely face, big pouty lips and a slender figure that her elegant dress showed off perfectly. We exchanged smiles and I asked what her name was. "Kim" she replied. She was a 9/10 and would certainly be a trophy fuck but before I had chance to ask another question she said "you buy me drink?" These bars definitely have some hardcore pros! If she had taken her time and weaved her charm and got to know me, then I might possibly have been persuaded to whisk her off to a short-time hotel nearby.

I'd had a good night. I'd only visited two bars but I got a decent flavour of the place. I'd seen lots of pretty girls and I'm told it's possible to acquire their services for $1000 HK - $1500 if you know what you're doing (they will of course start by quoting much higher). If I was a Hong Kong resident with deep pockets I think I would be a regular visitor as Wan Chai is a fun place, but it isn't for me. I could fuck three equally pretty girls (or prettier girls, even) from the 141 apartments for the same price, or take three separate girls for long-time later in my trip in Philippines.

Happily buzzed after a few beers, I took the MTR back to Tsim Shar Tsui. After a girl-free day I fancied a fuck before bedtime, so on a spur-of-the-moment I walked the short distance from my hotel to James S Lee Mansion to see if Kawaii was available. But it was nearly midnight and the shutter had been pulled down at the entrance. It was closed. I turned round and headed back to my hotel. Tomorrow was my last day in Hong Kong and I wanted two girls minimum.

[QUOTE=ThomKatt;1700831]Yet it's the hundreds of years of progressivism and feminism that have created a man hated society in the west. Women treat the men like crap, especially in America. We treat our women well, yet they aren't even being close to thankful. They should be happy they don't live in a 3rd world country or a less developed one. Why do you think so many westerners flock to Asia?[/QUOTE]I think you are solving a problem that isn't actually the problem. Your argument doesn't do anything to rebut the claims of boorishness, of ill manners, or arrogance, of male superiority that all those yers of being an only son has created in the Chinese race. I respect the fact that as a half Chinese you may disagree strongly with my comments about the Chinese. But the facts as stated as commented by Sir L, and as seen daily by everyone living in China are there for all to see. The men are just lacking in social awareness and live in their own selfish bubble. As for me, I've been in Asia for 40 years so can't really comment on what happens in the west.

[QUOTE=ThomKatt;1700831]Yet it's the hundreds of years of progressivism and feminism that have created a man hated society in the west. Women treat the men like crap, especially in America. We treat our women well, yet they aren't even being close to thankful. They should be happy they don't live in a 3rd world country or a less developed one. Why do you think so many westerners flock to Asia?[/QUOTE]TK, I found your post difficult to understand. Who is [B]We[/B]? Westerners? Europeans? Chinese? We don't know your background except that you are of mixed Asian ethnicity.

And I am unsure that if a society's men "treat our women well", then the women [B]should be thankful[/B]!? WTF!

In my experience, most Chinese men regard themselves as superior to women, and many are also extremely selfish and have no regard for the other parties in any sort of relationship, regardless of how transient. It's all Me! Me! Me! However, I do not believe that this is an outcome purely of the Chinese one-child policy.

BTW have posters noticed how very few Chinese girls are close to their fathers? They rarely speak of them although they may talk of wanting to help their mother. Over the years, a number of studies in different countries have concluded that girls without a close relationship with their father are attracted to older men. I totally agree, and have experienced this continually over the last 30 years or so.

I recommend that you can use the knowledge provided in the previous 2 paragraphs to your advantage when mongering or courting SYTs.

Again, like FF, I am relatively inexperienced in the recent ways of Western women, but your blanket criticism seems a bit harsh.

Ikksman.

[QUOTE=Ikksman;1701096]

BTW have posters noticed how very few Chinese girls are close to their fathers? They rarely speak of them although they may talk of wanting to help their mother. Over the years, a number of studies in different countries have concluded that girls without a close relationship with their father are attracted to older men. I totally agree, and have experienced this continually over the last 30 years or so.

I recommend that you can use the knowledge provided in the previous 2 paragraphs to your advantage when mongering or courting SYTs.



Ikksman.[/QUOTE]I have noticed two distinct patterns.

One, where a girl has perhaps lost a father or a father left the family home, those ladies seem to have no issues with dating a guy who maybe 30 years older than them.

And secondly, same as Ikks reports, girls who only have a strong Mother relationship, always seem very amenable to dating older guys. One of my current China squeeze of mine is a mere 38 years younger than me. That number makes me both shiver and smile. I think she likes me because I do more than grunt when she opens her door.

Excellent reporting Sir Lancelot! Thank you for the detailed reports!

From your "day 5" report from Hong Kong I see you have got some first-hand experience from the bar scene here. As a frequent visitor to this area 5-6 times per year since 2007 I would like to share some information. The bars change their policy now and then, so some information might already be outdated! Go-Go bars / red curtain bars; These bars should not be compared with go-go's in Angeles or in Bangkok / Pattaya. The main difference is that there is no people inside! How these bars can still make profit has been a mystery to me for years. The bars employ quite nice girls as dancers, most of them from the Philippines. If you get inside during "happy hour" you can actually have a beer for around HKD 60 and some dancing from the girls on stage. But they will soon try to upsell, ask you to buy drinks for the dancers etc. Be careful! It will soon get very expensive! One girl told me a few years ago a Hong Kong tycoon used to spend 30.000 HKD every night he visited. Probably no big deal for him, but for regular folks it is a bit of a trap. There is a reason why these bars are mostly empty! The girls can be barfined, but prices are on the high end.

Neptune 3: This bar is sometimes empty and sometimes completely full. The main problem with this bar is the price of lady drinks (300 HKD). I have not seen this in other bars, so that is why I politely decline when the girls ask. And ask they will! This is the bar in HK with the most "pushy" girls. Hong Kong Cafe; this bar struggle to get back to the "perfect hunting joint" it was a few years ago (when it was Neptune 2). They used to struggle with licence, fire safety issues etc. For years but they hang in there and sometimes it is quite OK. But it is a pale shadow of it's former glory as hunting ground. Amazonia; Probably the best "live music" bar in Asia! Just outstanding bands playing there! Let us hope the new owners do not ruin this excellent bar. Lots of girls also, but some "old timers". Were are the 20-25 year old girls from Philippines that used to flood this area 6-7 years ago? "Dusk till Dawn"; this used to be an excellent night spot a few years ago. Then new owners imposed a "no WG" policy and after that it went downhill, except for Fridays and Saturdays. Still a fantastic place for party if you are there with friends. Some freelancer are there still. "Joe bananas"; have improved with the new makeover; used to be a stronghold for rather expensive Thai girls. Good band, nice ambiance. "Insiders": Nice place but empty most of the time. Sundays the domestic helpers (DH) will fill the Place most of the day. You can find some girls that want to earn extra here. "Escape": a little more upscale. Some very beautiful ladies here. I like the place and there is a great variety of girls from Columbia, Indonesia, Vietnam, Thailand, Philiipines etc. They have a strange door policy for the girls, so it is a bit of a hazzle I think. The old venue here (same place) was better. But I guess everything will change over time. Wan Chai is still a fantastic area with lots of options and a variety and hardly any place in Asia can compete for hardcore night time partying.

Day 6, Hong Kong.

Today was my last day in Hong Kong and I wanted two girls, perhaps even three.

However I needed to a bit of souvenir shopping first and inevitably got side-tracked. I treated myself to some new clothes and before I knew it the whole morning had flashed by. I enjoyed it though, especially flirting with the pretty shop assistants. I had worked up an appetite so I found a small restaurant near my hotel and had prawn dumplings for lunch. Shopping and food out of the way, it was time to find my first girl of the day.

The top of my list was the gorgeous redhead Kawaii in James S Lee Mansion. According to the 141 website she was working so I hastily left my hotel, walked past the sharply dressed touts on Nathan Road trying to get me in to their suit shops, turned right at the Tsi Shar Shui MTR entrance on to Carvarvon Road and two minutes later I reached James S Lee Mansion. I took the lift up to the 6th floor and walked to apartment 604 A but the pink lights surrounding the door were switched off. I knocked anyway but there was no answer.

I looked at my notes and decided to check out a few of the other girls who had caught my eye on the website. I took the stairs up to the 7th floor and knocked on 708 to find Ivy. In her photos she had enticing curves but once again there was no answer. I listened carefully and could hear running water. She was with a customer. I went down to the 4th floor and knocked on 407 to find a cutie called Chane. The door opened and although there was a fair resemblance between the girl who stood in front of me and the girl in the photos, she looked tired and her smile was forced. These girls work hard so perhaps she had already been with a customer or two. I never go with a girl who doesn't want to go with me, so I told her she was beautiful and added the very English phrase 'nice to meet you' before walking away.

On the 3rd floor I found Miko's door (E301). She looked nice in her photos and had a voluptuous figure but when I rang the bell she answered with three loud groans. Message received loud and clear! I went to room 303 to find Milk but the lights around her door were switched off (you could say that the Milk had gone off). On the 2nd floor was another strong contender, a Japanese looking girl called Ayumi. She had some creative photos on her profile including one in which she was blowing pink bubble gum seductively, a photo which also gave a teasing glimpse of her sizable breasts. I rang 207 f but there was no answer. It wasn't my lucky day, all of the girls on my shortlist were either away or busy!

I decided to give up on James S Lee Mansion for now. I could always return later for my second (or third?) girl of the day. Instead I would go to Champagne Court to see if I could find a pretty Japanese girl from Tokyo I'd spotted online. She looked just my type; young, cute and innocent with a banging body. She charged $700 HK but the photos suggested it would be money well spent.

Champagne Court wasn't easy to find. I walked up the gentle hill on Carnarvon Road and turned left at the T-junction with Kimberley Road. I knew number 16 was on the left somewhere but initially I couldn't find it. I noticed an open door so walked in and climbed three flights of stairs before I realised it was just a regular apartment block. A cleaner was hoovering and gave me a strange look as if to say "you shouldn't be here". I left and stepped back out on to the street. A few minutes later I found the place I was looking for. The entrance to Champagne Court isn't actually on Kimberley Road, it is inside a small mall. If you look carefully there is a sign which says 'Champagne Court No. 16 Kimberley Road' above the entrance, next to a clothes shop painted green called Koe.

I entered and there was a stairwell on the left, opposite the entrance to Dadol Hotel. I climbed the dark and dingy stairs up to the 2nd floor where there was just one corridor with four doors illuminated by pink lights. The first door (C1) was Hede's room. I rang the bell and a small girl answered wearing thick glasses. The photos online were studio shots in which she was caked with makeup but the girl standing in front of me was more cute than sexy. I'd estimate she was three years older than when the photos were taken but she still looked pretty and had a sexy body. I liked her geeky glasses too. I confirmed the price of $700 HK and walked inside.

The room was by far the worst so far. It was dark and uninviting and there was no shower. I didn't really care. I'm not an estate agent, I just want to fuck pretty girls and sometimes the seedier the better. We both got unchanged. She had a bit more weight on the hips than her photos but I liked her curves and I felt myself getting hard. She lifted her dress over her head revealing decent-sized breasts and nipples with tape over them. She pulled the tape off and her nipples were huge, maybe an inch long, the kind that just beg to be sucked. She took all of her clothes off apart from a pair of tattered fishnet stockings that were torn.

I lay naked on the bed and she licked my chest, darting her tongue up and down until she was teasing the areas around my groin. Her fingernails dragged down my chest and I shivered with anticipation. I looked down and saw her face between my legs, glasses still on, staring innocently back up to me, before she began to lick my dick like a lollipop. I thought for a moment I would be getting my first uncovered blowjob in Hong Kong but alas she rolled a condom on to me before she wrapped her lips around me and began sucking. Covered blowjobs just aren't the same. You don't get the same warmth and the condom never lubricates as well as spit. But despite this, her blowjob was sensational. She sucked slow and deep and even made an attempt at deep-throat. She swallowed about two thirds of my dick, then visibly relaxed her throat before forcing herself down some more. She swallowed another inch before wretching and then surfacing for air. "You Superman!" she said (thinking about it, 'Deepthroat' would be an excellent name for a supervillain).

She lay back and I fucked her in mish, slowly at first as she whimpered softly, then faster as she gasped 'come come come'. I don't know if she was talking about herself or was ordering me to finish. Surely it was too soon for the latter? I loved seeing her lying on her back, torn stockings and thick glasses, nipples like bullets. I fucked her hard in a few positions. At one point I took both of her ankles, placed them on my shoulders then leaned forward so her feet were either side of her pretty face. It's a great position to get really deep and she groaned noisily. I leaned forward to kiss her but she deftly angled her face away. It's strange to be jilted when you're fucking someone!

The room didn't have air-con and soon I was glistening with sweat. I lay back and she lowered herself on to me and rode me in Asian cowgirl for a while as I sucked her nipples. She then took the condom off and finished me with an excellent hand-job. Some girls don't do it properly but she used long, firm strokes, and spat on my dick for lubrication before upping the pace. I came up my chest and she gave me a few wet wipes to tidy the mess. As we got our breaths back she held my dick and said "you 35, this 20".

She didn't kiss but it was a memorable quickie in a grubby room, the kind of experience I enjoy.

I went back to my hotel and showered, then found a local restaurant where I had a Sichuan crispy pork dish with green peppers. It was delicious and I washed it down with a bottle of Tsing Tao. Great city, great food and great girls. Watery beer though. It was my last night in Hong Kong so I decided to go to Peninsular Hotel in Tsim Sha Tsui and up to Felix Bar on the 28th floor. It offers sweeping panoramic views of the harbour and is a great place to go to watch the sun go down and the lights come on. Like many Asian cities, Hong Kong comes alive at night. My bottle of beer cost $95 HK but of course you're paying a premium for the spectacular view (and to a lesser extent the complimentary peanuts). Since I knew it was a swish place, I had made an effort and was looking pretty dapper but I still felt out of place. There was a couple next to me, the wife in a cocktail dress, the husband in a tuxedo, bottle of champagne in an ice bucket in front of them. The woman took pity on me and asked me where I was from. We chatted and I got the impression that she thought I was a lonely lamb, desperate for company. Little did she know I had fucked five different girls in five days and was soon to fuck my sixth.

It was 9 pm when I left Panorama. My plan was to go to James S Lee Building to see if Kawaii was available. If not I'd get the MTR to Phoenix Apartment across the harbour.

I walked to James S Lee Mansion and took the lift up the 6th floor and approached Kawaii's door. Again the lights were off but I could hear banging coming from inside, like someone was hammering something. I knocked and the door opened. My heart skipped a beat. Standing in front of me was Kawaii and she looked beautiful. She didn't have the flame-red hair from the photos on her profile but she had a spectacularly pretty, drop-dead gorgeous face. However, she was wearing casual clothes and behind her a man seemed to be fixing some shelves. She said "tomorrow". I told her that I was leaving tomorrow and there was a brief moments hesitation before I told her it was nice meet her and walked away. Oh well, it's better to have loved and lost than to have never loved at all.

My second choice was Phoenix Apartment. I jumped on to the MTR and took a tram to Central, where I switched on to the Causeway Bay line. The Octopus card makes it really easy to get about Hong Kong and it's cheap too. I exited at Causeway Bay and walked along Hennessy Road, turning left on to Lee Garden Road. The third road on the left is Lan Fon Road and the whole next block on the left is Phoenix Apartments (54-70 Lee Garden Road). It has an unusual layout. Previously 141 apartments I had visited had been tall buildings, up to 21 floors high, with girls located on most floors, but Phoenix is a long building with girls located only on the 3rd and 5th floors.

As always I had a list of my favourite girls written down so I headed straight for the 3rd floor and rang E1, where I hoped to see Bowie. So far I'd fucked typically Asian girls with long dark hair but Bowie was from the other end of the spectrum. She was a young, sweet girl with short blonde hair. I rang her bell but the lights were off and no-one was home. Not to worry, Phoenix has plenty of good looking girls to choose from. I looked at some of the other doors in this corridor and most had photos pinned up which I recognised from the website.

On the same floor I saw a girl leaving her room. It was Sammi, a sexy girl I recognised from the 141 website. She had a spectacular hourglass figure with a huge round J-Lo ass that begged to be fucked doggy-style. On each profile it lists the girls specialities and Sammi's included leg-splits, long tongue, scrotum suck, restraints, bukkake and mouth burst, whatever that is. She looked great but sadly was dressed in casual clothes and seemed to be leaving work for the day. Perhaps 10 pm is too late to visit these places?

There was a door opposite and amusingly I heard a female voice saying "try me, try me" from behind it. I decided to oblige and knocked on G10. The door opened and I was pleasantly surprised when a sexy girl with a stellar body answered. Her name was Aa and she seemed a bit more mature than other girls I'd fucked so far, perhaps 30 years old. She was fun and flirty so I agreed to her price of 500. It was a nice room, five star luxury compared to Hede's earlier. A mirror ran alongside the bed and I noticed a whip on the pillow.

I always enjoy undressing together and admiring the girl in all her glory. She had a slim body with lots of enticing curves. We showered together and she lathered me with soap and cleaned me, paying careful attention to my dick. When I dried myself off I lay on the single bed and waited. I love the sense of anticipation. The sound of the water stopped and a few seconds later she stepped in to the bedroom and I watched her drying herself. I'd miss this when I left Hong Kong. She joined me on the bed and picked up the whip and told me "200 extra?" with a glint in her eye. I was tempted but said "I've been a good boy". I've never really been in to S&M but in July I fucked a 19 year old blond Russian in Amsterdam called Katalina and she gave me a shock when she started to spank me with a studded rubber object. I reciprocated by smacking it loudly on to her bottom as I fucked her doggy-style. It was quite kinky.

I lay back and then followed a few minutes of intense pleasure as she gave me a 'cat bath', licking my entire body up and down and softly kissing every limb. She skilfully maneuvered her way down to my groin and teased and licked around my dick before rolling a condom on to me and giving me a covered blowjob. She had good skills. Without any prompt from me she crawled around, sucking all the time, and lifted one leg over my head, inviting me to eat her pussy. I obliged. After a few minutes she stood up, turned around and then lowered herself on to me, riding me with tight thrusts of her hip. She took my hands and made me hold her tits and squeeze them tightly.

She was an assertive girl and I was happy to follow her lead, but after a while it was time for me to take control. I flipped her on to her back and fucked her in mish before rolling her on to her side in front of the mirror and fucking her from behind. We locked eyes in the mirror. Soon I was hot again (fair to say the air-con in these rooms isn't ideal for our hobby) so I lay back and she took the condom off and gave me an expert hand-job to finish. She made me finger her too and I shot my load up my chest.

We lay next to each other, getting our breaths back, when she sat up and placed her wrist next to my dick. It was almost the same width. It was more down to her slender wrist but she said "you superstar" and laughed.

It had been an excellent session and perfect way to end my time in Hong Kong. I'd been with six great girls and the sex had been fantastic. Mostly though I loved the process of searching the apartment blocks. It was an exciting way to spend an hour, going from floor to floor and knocking on random doors, lured in my a photo pinned up or the promise of big breasts.

I took the MTR back to Tsim Shar Tsui and went back to my hotel room. I made a start on my packing and was in bed by midnight, in preparation for my trip to mainland China and Guilin tomorrow. For the first time on the trip I struggled to sleep as I had lots of thoughts bouncing around my head. I was excited to be going to a place I'd always wanted to visit and it would signal the start of the touristy part of my trip, in which I would also visit Chengdu and Beijing. I had researched pay-for-play in each place just in case but I suspected I'd be too busy being a tourist to search for local ladies.

But the main reason I couldn't sleep was thinking how much I'd miss Hong Kong.

[QUOTE=SirLancelot;1699111]Express Train from the Airport ($90 HK) to Central which took 20 minutes. There are free buses laid on from Central to various destinations and 15 minutes later I was dwarfed by skyscrapers in down-town Hong Kong, standing in front of the infamous Chungking Mansions. It might sound grand but it is 17 storeys of backpacker hostels, rooms crammed as tightly as possible together. I took a lift up to Ashoka Hotel on the 16th floor and my room was like a shoe-box, little more than a hard single bed, a bedside table and a tiny bathroom. But that's what $200 HK a night gets you in Hong Kong! I had to laugh, I lay on my bed and it was possible to touch facing walls with my outstretched arms!

Prior to every trip I go on an enforced drought for a few months,
[/QUOTE]LMAO. Thanks for bringing things back on track and on point.

Will have to sit down and read all the reports as it will take some time! You must be paid by the word! I will enjoy reading the reports when I have time. From what I skimmed, I think you were not in Central but at the Kowloon Station of the Airport Express and in TST (Tsim Sha Tsui). A minor point so please excuse me.

Your hotel reminds me of a US brand name hotel in Germany that my travel agent booked for me for a long layover on my dime. It had a great window view but I could still touch the walls. Told my agent that that is a no go size for any future cheap stays, if any.

Don't know how you managed your drought with your significant others but mine are always keeping tabs on the count and pepper me with questions when there is a low count!

[QUOTE=SirLancelot;1700525]Day 4, Hong Kong.I got chatting with a Kiwi expat and his 20 year old daughter who was breathtakingly pretty, with a face like Uma Thurman in Pulp Fiction.[/QUOTE]Don't be too quick to write them off as expats and fellow travellers are a great source for great and free lays.

Thank you very much for the report. It is well written and I merged your reports into a single pdf file to read and keep as a reference on my kindle during my visit to HKG. If anyone like to read.

I can email the pdf too.

The report of Sir L no doubt is excellent. One advise though needed. Is it safe to go to these places, given the fact that there was LE in Dec. 2013 on these kinds of appts?

[QUOTE=Mbsl65;1701686]Thank you very much for the report. It is well written and I merged your reports into a single pdf file to read and keep as a reference on my kindle during my visit to HKG. If anyone like to read.

I can email the pdf too.[/QUOTE]

Day 7, Hong Kong to Guilin.

I woke early, did some last minute packing then said goodbye to the friendly ladies on reception. I took the MTR one stop to Hung Hom and then a 45 minute train ride to Luk Ma Chau on the border. Immigration was easy, just a quick flash of my passport at the Hong Kong side and then a quick form to fill at the Chinese side. The young immigration officer even cracked a smile, an unprecedented turn of events in my experience of immigration officers! I'd heard stories about Chinese over-officiousness so had to laugh when I saw signs above the queue that said 'do not talk'.

From Shenzhen I jumped on to my G class Express train to Guilin, which was spacious and extremely smooth, even when we reached speeds of 310 kph. I enjoyed looking out of the window as we left the smog of Szenzhen behind and the countryside shot past. I'm well traveled around Asia and the karst scenery as we approached Guilin surpassed anything I've seen in Krabi, Palawan or Halong Bay.

The journey took four hours which gave me ample time to review the six days I spent in Hong Kong.

I was happy that I'd concentrated my efforts on the 141 apartments as I think they represent the best value for money in Hong Kong. I was tempted to try the massage parlours K-Pressure and 37 Dundas, but was put off because I read that the selection of girls is average and also I don't like rejecting girls to their faces (by all accounts they are led in one by one). Plus at just over $500 HK the price was roughly the same as I was paying for girls in the 141 apartments anyway. The bars in Wan Chai seemed great fun but the prices are high.

The 141 apartment by comparison represent good value for money. $500 HK is more than fucking a girl in Amsterdam's Red Light District but by Hong Kong's standards, an affluent city full of well paid and lonely businessmen lest we forget, it's a reasonable price. I went with six girls and paid $500 HK on five occasions. Ironically the most I spent was $700 HK and the room was by far the worst and the only one without a shower! (You tend to pay a premium in Hong Kong for Japanese girls). The quality of girls in the apartments was excellent. I saw lots of girls and most were between 20 and 30 years old with slim, sexy bodies and pretty faces. Another huge plus point in my book is that I've never seen so much cleavage in my life! I've done a lot of mongering in Southeast Asia where typically the girls have small tits, so to see so many big natural breasts I thought I'd died and gone to boob heaven.

The six girls I went with were young and pretty and all provided excellent sex. They were eager to please too and happily tried as many positions as I wanted. Each experience typically lasted 45 minutes and either side of the sex I got to shower with the girl, always enjoyable. Most girls spoke at least a little bit of English.

There were a few negatives. Firstly only two of the six girls kissed, so the girlfriend experience was tricky to find. Secondly on the 141 website, which I scoured to find the prettiest girls, the photos were often out-of-date. It stands to reason. Apparently the girls pay $1,500 HK to be featured on the website for one month and for an additional fee the company can arrange for a photo-shoot to be done. Given the fact that they supply a make-up artist and there is a lot of post-production, like air-brushing, they must be expensive. So it's hardly surprising that the girls leave the photos up several years after they were taken (let's face it, something most of us are guilty of doing with our profile photos on social media!) I saw a few girls who were at least three or four years older than their photos.

But to be honest, half the fun was looking. As I said earlier in the trip, I love gogo bars and massage parlours but sometimes it all feels just too easy. I loved the treasure hunt aspect of wandering through these apartment blocks and the thrill of knowing that the girl you will end up fucking might be just around the corner. It felt sleazy and sometimes that's exactly what I want.

I visited seven apartments and my favourite was James S Lee Mansion in Tsim Shar Tsui. I liked the layout and there were lots of pretty girls. Fuji Building in Causeway Bay and Foremost Building in Jordan also had lots of girls. Phoenix had less girls but the quality was high. My advice to someone planning a trip would be to use the 141 website and work out where the big apartment blocks are located. Mark them all on a map and then if you go to one place and don't see a girl you like, you can go to another nearby. Hong Kong has lots of them so if you have two or three options within walking distance, you'll soon find a girl you like. The only other piece of advice I'd offer is second hand. When you are stood at a girls door, don't step inside until you have settled on a price. Once the door is closed, the girls will expect payment.

If I went to Hong Kong again, I'd change my tactics slightly. Firstly, without question, the prettiest girls are the 'young buddies'. There are some absolute honeys and typically you could fuck a 10/10 stunner, aged 19 or 20 with a models face and bra-bursting tits, for $1000 HK. It's expensive of course but some of these girls are really special and sometimes you've just got to treat yourself. I tried to book two, including one with F Cup breasts, but was unsuccessful since I don't speak a word of Mandarin. So if I decided to visit Hong Kong again I'd see if I could find someone who can speak Mandarin to make appointments on my behalf, either a local who I would pay a small fee to, or a member from the forum willing to help in exchange for a beer or two.

The other thing I'd do is utilise the 141 website more. I only used it to look at the pictures and then if I was interested, find out the girls location and price. But the website offers so much more, including listing the full range of services that each girl offers. For example, if I'd looked closer I'd have seen that on each girls profile it says whether they kiss or not. It also lists other services provided and some of these girls offer all kinds of weird and wonderful sexual acts, many of which I haven't tried before. I could have really broadened my horizons with a bit more research!

Whenever I go to a new place I always ask myself the question is it a viable alternative to Thailand and Philippines in terms of pay-for-play. I think Hong Kong is too expensive to be an alternative (especially for long-time) but it undoubtedly is an exciting place with lots of amazing girls. In future I may look to combine it with my trips to Thailand or Philippines. You don't need a visa to visit Hong Kong and numerous budget airlines operate flight from Hong Kong to Manila and Bangkok, so it's feasible to sample the delights of the 141 apartments for a week, then fly to Thailand or Philippines for lots of long-time sex at cheaper prices.

I arrived in Guilin and my hotel was cavernous in contrast to my rabbit hutch in Hong Kong. Over the next week I'd be conducting a whistle-stop tour of China, taking the Li River boat trip in Guilin, then on to Chengdu to see the pandas and finally Beijing to see the Great Wall. I couldn't come all this way without doing some touristy stuff.

Please note:

I will not be continuing this diary on the Guilin, Chengdu and Beijing threads. It takes so long for me to write, what you have been reading is actually a few weeks old. So I've already been to China and as predicted I didn't look for any girlie action as I was saving myself for Philippines (plus I felt too exhausted after all that sight-seeing!) There were a few windows of opportunity though. In Chengdu a young tour-guide gave me her number and said if I had any questions I should give her a call. I phoned her next night and we arranged a date but sadly due to reasons I won't go in to, it never happened. I think there are opportunities to score with local girls in these places, as well as tourists. In Beijing a gorgeous Japanese girl at Forbidden City wanted her photo taken with me because, and I quote, "you handsome man"! Haha. I enjoyed China as a tourist but have nothing to report in terms of mongering.

Footnote:

Thanks to people who have posted positive feedback and also big thanks to those people who answered my questions on here prior to my trip. Your help was very useful and enabled me to have a really memorable time in Hong Kong.

Finally if you'd like to continue reading, I will be posting the rest of my diary on the Manila and Angeles threads.

[QUOTE=FreebieFan;1701086]I think you are solving a problem that isn't actually the problem. Your argument doesn't do anything to rebut the claims of boorishness, of ill manners, or arrogance, of male superiority that all those yers of being an only son has created in the Chinese race. I respect the fact that as a half Chinese you may disagree strongly with my comments about the Chinese. But the facts as stated as commented by Sir L, and as seen daily by everyone living in China are there for all to see. The men are just lacking in social awareness and live in their own selfish bubble. As for me, I've been in Asia for 40 years so can't really comment on what happens in the west.[/QUOTE]Actually, I wasn't disagreeing with you. I was only saying that the way they treat women may be wrong, but also may be right. When you give women all the rights, freedoms, and respect, they will abuse it. I live and work and Shanghai, have been for a year, all the women treat the men like dogsh! T because they know the advantage is in their court (man to woman ratio). Go read the news article about the man who killed himself by jumping off of the mall building because his girlfriend wanted to shop for one more hour, after already doing so for 3 hours. The men carry the womens' bags and pay for everything. As a man, this is a sad sight to see, and I would never wish this upon my enemies.

The terrible manners and customs aren't really rooted from thousands of years of concubines or terrible patriarchy mentality. It's rooted in communism. Things like manners and spending time on trivial things such as courtesy were seen as western ideals and part of the bourgeoisie. They got rid of them, and needed to focus more on developing a new nation. I dislike it.

They are WGs. Sorry, but if you have thin skin, you're in the wrong business. That's like complimenting all of those Thai girls on stage while they do the Bangkok shuffle. I don't view it as cold. If anything, I'm not wasting anyone's time and misleading them into thinking I am interested. They become desensitized by it all in the long run. They treat their customers like walking wallets, why can't it be reciprocated when I'm the customer?

[QUOTE=Ikksman;1701096]TK, I found your post difficult to understand. Who is [B]We[/B]? Westerners? Europeans? Chinese? We don't know your background except that you are of mixed Asian ethnicity.

And I am unsure that if a society's men "treat our women well", then the women [B]should be thankful[/B]!? WTF!

In my experience, most Chinese men regard themselves as superior to women, and many are also extremely selfish and have no regard for the other parties in any sort of relationship, regardless of how transient. It's all Me! Me! Me! However, I do not believe that this is an outcome purely of the Chinese one-child policy.

BTW have posters noticed how very few Chinese girls are close to their fathers? They rarely speak of them although they may talk of wanting to help their mother. Over the years, a number of studies in different countries have concluded that girls without a close relationship with their father are attracted to older men. I totally agree, and have experienced this continually over the last 30 years or so.

I recommend that you can use the knowledge provided in the previous 2 paragraphs to your advantage when mongering or courting SYTs.

Again, like FF, I am relatively inexperienced in the recent ways of Western women, but your blanket criticism seems a bit harsh.

Ikksman.[/QUOTE]Sorry, I should have been more clear. I also shouldn't speak for everyone, just for myself. I'm an American, of Asian (Chinese / Vietnamese) ethnicity. Americans treat American women well, but American women treat the men like garbage. I've been to 17 countries, 2 SARs, and 1 territory, and I can tell you, I will probably never date another westerner. They're not worth the trouble or hassle.

Western women should be thankful that western men treat them so well. If they grew up or were born in another country, they won't take the treatment and advantages for granted. I couldn't believe how men would treat their women in poor countries. And they put up with it because they have no other choice. Western men are desirable because they treat women well.

I think Chinese men act the way they do, because they have to put up with a ton of crap before, during, and after marriage from Chinese women.

There are some tricks for ladies on the 141 sex site (Chinese version) - Yes, ladies pay a fee. But also can get bad reviews, and to get the review more positive the ladies pay a further fee.

I suppose it appeals for ladies who speak little English. But there are better options for these ladies.

[QUOTE=SirLancelot;1701915]Day 7, Hong Kong to Guilin. snip ...
Thanks to people who have posted positive feedback and also big thanks to those people who answered my questions on here prior to my trip. Your help was very useful and enabled me to have a really memorable time in Hong Kong.[/QUOTE]I appreciate all the detailed info you provided. I am planning my trip to HK and Macau and your reports are right on point.

Enjoy yourself and safe travels.

[QUOTE=SirLancelot;1701915]Day 7, Hong Kong to Guilin.
Thanks to people who have posted positive feedback and also big thanks to those people who answered my questions on here prior to my trip. Your help was very useful and enabled me to have a really memorable time in Hong Kong.
Finally if you'd like to continue reading, I will be posting the rest of my diary on the Manila and Angeles threads.[/QUOTE]I have to say a big "thank you" for all your interesting reports and will avidly follow your exploits in the Philippines.

As my HK reports in the past have indicated, I was always a sucker for the Wan Chai bars and of course paid the premium price. You have certainly given me food for thought for my next visit later in the year.

All the best.

The Daily Spa in TST has been well-covered. I just wanted to add a footnote about the provider Miki, who it seems is one of their regulars. I visited her yesterday. She's Japanese (convincingly) and looks a little older than some of the other Daily Spa girls.

Pros: nice massage, possibly the best ass I have seen / squeezed in a VERY long time.

Cons: Miki is all business. The reason I like Daily Spa (despite the very high expense) is that the girls I've had before have been reliable GFE. Playful, giggly, DFK or at least LFK. Not Miki. She doesn't exactly give you anything to complain about, but she's pretty cold, and doesn't like to be touched. Anywhere, really. The lack of DATY was a big deal for me. Daily Spa had previously been 100% for DATY, but Miki was not having that at all.

I shall still return, sometime when I've saved up enough money. But I shall definitely not be visiting Miki again.

I earlier wrote a small introduction of myself in the Shenzhen thread on how I first started my mongering carieer. So this being the HK thread I thought I would share a more detailed report. It won't be a report girl for girl since that would take way too much time to write since I met around 40 diffrent walk-in girls.

Anyway, here goes.

It took me about 3 days from that I found the 141 site until I would actually meet any girl. I had never ever payed a woman for sex before and I was real nervous. Many questions flew around in my head:

-Is this even legal? I had not done enough research at that time.

-Is it safe? Worried about scammers and gangsters etc.

-How to find these small little walk ups?

-And of course, the "walk of shame".

I finally found a curvy girl working in Mongkok on 141, very good location since it was maybe a 5 minute walk from my hotel. I booked a session and I went out try to look for the apartment. It took a while to find, had a few cigarettes and bought me a bottle of cold water while on my way. I felt very nervous and the weather was hot, I started to sweat. Great.

I found a very small entrance right in the middle of a main road (that I actually walked past many many times before without ever suspect being a one girl brothel building.) Got in the elevator and tried to calm myself down. I arrived at the floor and saw these famous pink lights while the walls had directions on how to find the rooms. I was going to room see. I quickly found it and knocked on the door. The door was opened by a sexy woman. Seemed like the girl in the pictures, nice curvy body, just the way I like it. Face was dissapointing though, maybe a 4 or a 5 at best. Never mind, I been wanting to this now for a few days and I did not had the energy to start all over again.

Had a smoke and talked to the woman for a few minutes before she told me that we should shower together. Very small bathroom / toilet, not very appealing to be honest. I mean how many people had actually been here before, but I talked myself out of thinking about this.

We made it to bed and I layed down on my back. Then it all started.

I was unable to finish the job because it was so damn hot in there. The bed was also too small so my knees kept banging into the wall. No problem she said and finished it off with a nice HJ. After that I had another smoke, relaxed a bit and then it was all over. Payed the 400 HKD and I left.

I had mixed emotions about this first experience. I felt quite ashamed of what I just have done but the excitement of being able to sit at home and search through the sites for the "perfect girl" kept me keep on looking.

The only reason I tried this was that I have had too many (free ones before and I had a real hard time to keep track of them, not enough energy to keep them all happy (chatting, dating, KTVs etc) and this, this was so easy! Usually I might have to spend a week or so chatting with a a woman I never met before, then the first date, then dinners, more chatting etc etc without even knowing what was hiding under those clothes. (he he).

Basically I did not want to waste too much time. And now I didn't have to.

I was hooked.

Even though these types of walk-ins had many negative aspects like:

-Too small rooms.

-Not very clean (at least that's what I thought).

-Too stressful at times, especially watching other men outside the doors on those monitors.

-A real gamble with meeting a "good one".

I kept on visiting girls from 141,161 and 148 and now I have met around 40 diffrent women using this method. Little by little I learn something new.

Some quick thoughts:

- Mostly women displayed on the sites have real pictures. However, many of those seem to be older pictures and of course photoshopped so do not have too high hopes judging from the pictures. 141 seems to have the most pictures that are real. 148 feels very similar but the 161 site, well I only tried 3 girls from that site and none of those pictures was real.

-Make sure to ask if the price is for 30 minutes or for 1 hour. Made this mistake a few times and thought I would get a full hour, but no.

-Of these 40 women I only met one 10 and one 9. The usual is between 5-7 I would say.

-I tried many diffrent areas around Kowloon. Jordan, Yau ma tei, Mongkok, Prince Edward and Sham shui po. Sham shui po has the most variety with loads of these girls. I would say quality wise (on the girls) the Mongkok and the Prince Edward area is the best. However, Mongkok rooms are very very small and which reflexts on the beds. I never been able to have a proper session in a Mongkok because the size of the bed. I never tried any girls in Tsim sha tsui or on the other side of the harbour yet though, so I can not speak on that.

-Of these 40, I have actually met around 10 of them outside of their job. Have had nice talks to some while half of them keep asking me to return and give me special deals (more relaxed and extra time after knowing them better) while the rest has actually given me free sex in my hotel regulary.

-Their job seem to be quite of free were they can decide themselves when to work and if they suddenly would want to leave their job they could do so. I had one session with a girl in Jordan and just after 30 minutes of talking (Of course some touching aswell) I asked her to take her for a meal. My intentions were for the future but she said "how about right now?" and start to get dressed. Wow I thought, that was quick. LOL.

-Usually toungekissing and extras are off limits if it is not mentioned in the advert but can come for free if the girl really likes you. Treat them with respect and they will treat you good back.

-I have been very dissapointed a few times, arriving after booking and then found out that the woman actually has a very poor attitude / try to cheat you with raising the price. Just walk out on them. No point is staying and if she keeps complaining that you can not leave without paying a small fee just give them 50 HKD to shut up and not to call their "security".

-Only once have a been cheated during / after the session. She asked to give me massage which I refused 4 times. After the session was done I relaxed and she started to massage me anyway. I thought it would be for free but no. It was not even a proper massage. I only had a 500 HKD note and wanted 100 HKD back when paying but she refused. She told me that I had to pay the massage aswell. WTH! After 5 minutes of discussion I got tired of the arguing so I left annoyed.

-After discovering this activity I did not really have the energy to keep contact with many of my free girls. I lost contact with many of them and they moved on to other adventures I guess. Which was a mistake. I guess the thrill took over me and I kind of regret it. It is fun for awhile but in the end I think it is just waste of money and time. At times I could take 1 or 2 days only to visit girls from these sites. It kind of got very intense, 6-7 girls on one day was not uncommon.

-Today haven't visited any 141 girls for over 2 months. It kinda feels like I been there and done that. With that said I probably visit a few more when the time comes (If they seem special). Right now I am saving courage to maybe visit a place with a real line up because I have never done that before so I guess I should try.

Sorry for the long post guys!

[QUOTE=SirLancelot;1701915]Day 7, Hong Kong to Guilin.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the meandering travel diary through HK. It is a nice read and guide for others. IMHO, think the stairs tired you out more.

[QUOTE=Aviator12;1701239]If you get inside during "happy hour" you can actually have a beer for around HKD 60

Neptune 3: This bar is sometimes empty and sometimes completely full. The main problem with this bar is the price of lady drinks (300 HKD). I have not seen this in other bars, so that is why I politely decline when the girls ask. And ask they will! This is the bar in HK with the most "pushy" girls. [/QUOTE]Based on my limited experience, some mates and I had $15 draft beers there last summer.

IMHO, Amazonia has the pushiest drink policy for girls and punters. Escape has the most hardcore girls. At night, the pros come out so it is a different game at all the bars. There are less real DH hanging out at night but they are around. I find the pretty ones usually have a bf; it just means the game is easier.

[QUOTE=Jackthelad2;1702203]I have [/QUOTE]He lives to troll another day!

[QUOTE=SirLancelot;1700216]Day 3, Hong Kong.

I really like Hong Kong. It's a modern city that feels different feel from other Asian cities I've visited. The streets are clean, there are no gaping holes in the pavements and I've yet to see a beggar or homeless person. Even the traffic seems civilised and there isn't the incessant honking of horns that forms the soundtrack to most Asian cities. My hotel might be in the backpacker area of Tsim Shar Tsui but shoppers still walk around with designer shopping bags while chatting on their smartphones. In fact I've never known people use their phones so much. I seem to be constantly swerving to avoid bumping in to people who are too busy tap-tap-tapping away on their phones to look where they are walking!

After a few hours of sightseeing I got back to my hotel and logged on to the 141 website. Lots of the better looking girls are known as 'Young Buddies' which means that their address isn't listed. Instead there is a phone number and you must call it to arrange an appointment. Some of them are stunners. I spotted one named Aiai in Kwun Tong who was cuteness personified. She was a 18 year old with a fashionable bobbed haircut and small breasts. On the other end of the spectrum I spotted a girl in San Po Kong with the biggest natural tits I have ever seen (F-cup no less!) She had a pretty face too, so I decided to try and book her for early evening. If she was anywhere near as spectacular as her pictures suggested, she'd be one to remember for a long time...[/QUOTE]Great report SL! A hell of a lot of good insight. Since you didn't have any luck with the 141 website due to the language barrier, does anyone have any suggestions on how to get past this? I have a slew of options I've written down for an upcoming trip and I'm hoping I don't get the hangup as well since I don't speak Mandarin.

Thanks!

N

[QUOTE=Boarer;1704500]{S N I P}He lives to troll another day![/QUOTE]I am extremely tolerant wrt bad spelling and grammar, but sometimes poor English can impart the wrong meaning or at least confuse the reader.

[B]Troll[/B]
One who purposely and deliberately (that purpose usually being self-amusement) starts an argument in a manner which attacks others on a forum without in any way listening to the arguments proposed by his or her peers.
[SUP][url]http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=troll[/url][/SUP]

Perhaps "trawl" was the word intended to be used. Some (many?) readers would not pick this up, and thus the esteemed [I]JacktheLad2[/I] could hereafter be labelled a "troll" in the minds of those readers.

Or perhaps the writer deliberately labelled our [I]Lad[/I] as a "troll"? But who knows, unless the question is raised!

Other common potentially misleading errors include:
• Using the word "inciteful" when "insightful" was the intended meaning.
• Failing to distinguish between HKD and USD (or other $) - might be obvious to HK residents and frequent visitors, but . . .

Ikksman

I think the original poster was using "troll" as a verb, meaning to fish using a baited line, in which case the usage is not at all pejorative and refers only to trolling for companions.

GE.

[QUOTE=GoodEnough;1705404]I think the original poster was using "troll" as a verb, meaning to fish using a baited line, in which case the usage is not at all pejorative and refers only to trolling for companions.
GE.[/QUOTE]GE, I agree you are correct (I am not a fisherman). My mistake, as I immediately thought of the most common usage of the term on internet forums (unless it was an angling forum). Shows how easily ambiguity or lack of clarity can mislead.

I now have a vision of our [I]Lad[/I] trolling along Lockhart Street trailing a bright flashy dildo behind him.

Ikksman

[QUOTE=Aiii2;1704334]-Of these 40 women I only met one 10 and one 9. The usual is between 5-7 I would say.

-Of these 40, I have actually met around 10 of them outside of their job. Have had nice talks to some while half of them keep asking me to return and give me special deals (more relaxed and extra time after knowing them better) while the rest has actually given me free sex in my hotel regulary.
[/QUOTE]Which ones did you rate 9 and 10?

How do you pull off asking them out?

[QUOTE=Macau81;1705605]Which ones did you rate 9 and 10?

How do you pull off asking them out?[/QUOTE]I would rate a girl in Sham shui po as a 10. Her name is Michelle and can / could be found in Kang san house, 3rd floor, room 303. The other one I still have contact with so I am keeping her for myself.

Usually if I like a girl I just ask them if they want to meet outside sometime. Some ask why and say they can not leave work or to come back and see her again (at work). Others get happy and looking forward to meet outside their work place. Nothing different from any other woman that I met (with a normal job) except I don't have to worry about the sex part. Since we already got that out the way at the first meeting.

Found this site today and with rates starting from 1000 hkd / hour it seems interesting.

Anybody have any experience from it? Are the pictures real? Scam? Too good to be true maybe?

Hi all,

I'm going to be going a bit of a trip around China, Thailand, and ending in HK.

I wanted to visit a STD Clinic in HK just to get checked out before I come home. Wouldn't want to bring any uninvited guests with me.

I will be in HK for 3 nights. Anyone know of any place near Wan Chai or anywhere else. Is 3 days enough if I need treatment for anything? Never done a check up before so I have no idea.

Thanks in advance guys.

Red

[QUOTE=RedHawk;1707651]Hi all,

I wanted to visit a STD Clinic in HK just to get checked out before I come home. Wouldn't want to bring any uninvited guests with me.

I will be in HK for 3 nights. Anyone know of any place near Wan Chai or anywhere else. Is 3 days enough if I need treatment for anything? Never done a check up before so I have no idea.

Thanks in advance guys.

Red[/QUOTE]Suggest you stop into Drs. Andersen and Partners, big bunch of docs all over Hong Kong, pathology on premises and drugs if needed. Very quick service, and not expensive either. I used the office in Causeway Bay, good english speaking / trained doctor there.

Thanks for this. I just sent them an email to ask details and how long it takes.

Do you know how long it may take to get results.

Thanks again.

[QUOTE=AussieDoug;1707780]Suggest you stop into Drs. Andersen and Partners, big bunch of docs all over Hong Kong, pathology on premises and drugs if needed. Very quick service, and not expensive either. I used the office in Causeway Bay, good english speaking / trained doctor there.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Aiii2;1704334]I earlier wrote a small introduction of myself in the Shenzhen thread on how I first started my mongering carieer. So this being the HK thread I thought I would share a more detailed report. It won't be a report girl for girl since that would take way too much time to write since I met around 40 diffrent walk-in girls.

Anyway, here goes.

It took me about 3 days from that I found the 141 site until I would actually meet any girl. I had never ever payed a woman for sex before and I was real nervous. Many questions flew around in my head:

-Is this even legal? I had not done enough research at that time.

-Is it safe? Worried about scammers and gangsters etc.

-How to find these small little walk ups?

-And of course, the "walk of shame".

I finally found a curvy girl working in Mongkok on 141, very good location since it was maybe a 5 minute walk from my hotel. I booked a session and I went out try to look for the apartment. It took a while to find, had a few cigarettes and bought me a bottle of cold water while on my way. I felt very nervous and the weather was hot, I started to sweat. Great.

I found a very small entrance right in the middle of a main road (that I actually walked past many many times before without ever suspect being a one girl brothel building.) Got in the elevator and tried to calm myself down. I arrived at the floor and saw these famous pink lights while the walls had directions on how to find the rooms...[/QUOTE]OK, I am very new at this and I am heading to HK. I did check the 141 site and I am quite interested but I have not figured out how it worked. I found one girl I really like. What next? How do I contact her?

[QUOTE=Mamarracho;1707849]OK, I am very new at this and I am heading to HK. I did check the 141 site and I am quite interested but I have not figured out how it worked. I found one girl I really like. What next? How do I contact her?[/QUOTE]Call the girl and arrange a meeting. (The same day you want to meet her). You can also go to her apartment and just knock on the door, but she might be busy, or not even there. I recommend you call her first, have a little chat and ask the price for how long etc.

The best is not too expect too much, pictures are heavily photoshopped and apartmemts are very small. However the girls usual are very kind and helpful. A big plus if you can speak a bit of chinese since most do not speak english.

Good luck!

[QUOTE=Mamarracho;1707849]OK, I am very new at this and I am heading to HK. I did check the 141 site and I am quite interested but I have not figured out how it worked. I found one girl I really like. What next? How do I contact her?[/QUOTE]Go to the ****** forum. They will have answers.

[QUOTE=RedHawk;1707810]Thanks for this. I just sent them an email to ask details and how long it takes.

Do you know how long it may take to get results.

Thanks again.[/QUOTE]All on the spot, the lab is attached to the doc's office, thay take the blood and send to their main computer lab in Central (I think) and you get it back that same day, you can plead a hurry if you are leaving. HIV takes longer, but you can ring for the reults from elsewhere, no bullshit about having to see you again. I used these doctors while living in Honkers, and they are good and not expensive.

[QUOTE=Ikksman;1705335]I am extremely tolerant wrt bad spelling and grammar, but sometimes poor English can impart the wrong meaning or at least confuse the reader.

[B]Troll[/B]
One who purposely and deliberately (that purpose usually being self-amusement) starts an argument in a manner which attacks others on a forum without in any way listening to the arguments proposed by his or her peers.
[SUP][url]http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=troll[/url][/SUP]

[/QUOTE]Yikes! There be a troll (or [B]Troll[/B]) in this here forum with a big pole sticking out of its eye (maybe arse) and a foot in its mouth (or both feet)!

To paraphrase something else written a couple millennia ago, we are fishermen. IMHO, JTL might have better luck with a handsum wallet as a lure. Good for catching ladies and sailfish. Though, for the latter, the captain usually takes a much bigger bite than many ladies.

Many ladies will ask you to buy them a dildo later, in private.

(HKD, HK$ or the official currency of the HKSAR) 15.

Remember, Google and RTFF are your friends.

Now, back to our regular programming... Where did Lancelot leave off....

The main purpose was to have a week of relaxation, meeting friends, good food and of course women. Ended up having a few surprises along the way:

-First experience of Kowloon street walkers.

-First experience of Fuji building.

-Probably the most expensive SW, 700 for 2 hours.

-A horrible evening with a freebie 141 girl.

-Met a local monger for the first time.

This is not a detailed story about girls or sessions, more about how I spent 7 days in HK without any pre plans.

Day 1:

Arrived in HK quite late and felt tired, so no hunting. Got a visit from a we chat freebie that I met many times before, so felt very relaxing since we are familiar with each other. Spent most of the time talking and eating sushi. Nice chill evening to start my trip.

Day 2:

Went outside to do other things during the day but in the afternoon I felt that I needed some action. Looking through the 141 girls, at least 20 different girls and I only found one that I would want to try. Called her few times but no answer. I did not feel like walking around in the 141 buildings to look for girls so headed back to my hotel. Called up a 141 girl that I had visited before and she agreed to come to my hotel. (we have had contact for awhile, I know she really likes me and I do not have to pay for her anymore).

We did not have any sex because she said she had a period. She wanted to give me a BJ but I declined. Told her I had to go and meet my friends after a few hours and as the evening approached, she left. I went out to meet friends and ended the night with no action.

Day 3:

Spent the day just walking around the harbor, enjoying the fresh air, eating ice cream. Sometime I just need to be by myself and that is what I did. A friend later joined me for a early dinner. Went back alone to the hotel to have a quick rest. After I recharged I tried to call the 141 girl that did not answer the day before. She answered. Agreed to meet right now. I got myself ready and went to look for the famous Foremost building in Jordan. I felt kind of nervous, have not visited a 141 girl for a long time and I had high expectations of this girl. I just had a feeling she would be a stunner. I was right. Beautiful face (a bit old, but I like MILFs), a nice body and eyes deeper than space. I mean I would have easily payed double price for this one based on her looks. Which would have turned out to be a mistake. LOL.

She did not know how to make me hot even, I made myself hot by touching and looking at her body. Anything she did had no feeling. The action started but she kept moving around in a strange way and that messed up my rhythm. Tried few times but I couldn't come. It started to get uncomfortable hot in there so I gave up and declined a HJ.

So what to do next? I did not feel to try another 141 girl so I headed to Temple street to check out some street walkers. I have never before tried that and I had no intention to do so either. Always felt nervous about them. Saw a few ones in a street nearby but I did not walk up to them. Kept going north on temple street. Saw a papasans that discretely said " leng lui, leng lui ". Ignored it and kept walking. Approached the end of the street and saw a beautiful MILF, wow she was really nice! I tried to make eye contact with her but failed. So I had to keep walking. Should I turn back? Should I walk around the block? I had no idea so I decided to walk around more and hope I find her again later. After walking around a long time I thought I try some foot massage and after that head back to look for that nice MILF. Unfortunately I could not find her again. Gave up and went back to the hotel.

Day 4:

Had a lunch and after that I went back to Temple street. Found a short but OK looking girl with big fake ones. Gave her a nod with my eyes and she pulled me into a alley. She asked how much can I give her and I told her 200. OK deal. I usually have problems performing in small 141 rooms and this was even worse. She got undressed and I got a closer look at her face. Damn she was real ugly. During the session I closed my eyes and tried to think about other women. Then I heard her annoying voice and screams. It reminded me of a BMW M3 E46, but in a very negative way. Very high pitch and I bet that voice could cut through steel. I decided to give up.

Headed out and walked around for awhile. I felt like a real loser. Pounding ugly 200 hkd working girls in Temple street. After a hour or so after passing a few ones that I wasn't interested in I saw this tall slutty looking woman. I could see her body was crazy sexy and face was. Well she looked like a cheap working girl. Exactly what I need right now I thought and got her. Fucked her for a long time but again I could not come. I guess it was a combination of nasty environment and too hot weather. Asked if she could visit my hotel tomorrow and she said yes.

Now I needed to rest, went to my hotel and took a long shower. I thought tonight I just want to go out and drink with friends, I do not want to meet any women at all. However friends were either busy or too far away.

So I called the free 141 girl again and she came to visit me. Spent a hour or so talking and then she undressed herself. She told me to touch her and feel her body. To this day she has one of the most beautiful fake breasts I ever seen, (I prefer real ones). Body a bit too skinny for my taste but she really knows how to please me. But this time I felt I just wanted to hug. (Yes something is seriously wrong with me). After awhile we got in to a discussion about cultures, the mood went down. Almost fighting. I felt I wanted to be alone and asked her to leave. She refused. I asked her polite and nice few more times but she wanted to sleep in my hotel she said. After 2 hours (of me getting more and more annoyed she started to cry. Told me her heart felt pain and really did not want to leave. (she should become an actor). I explained that I had to wake up early the next day and I felt annoyed by her lack of respect. Then her eyes turned black, if looks could kill I probably be dead by now. I realized that anger would not solve the situation so I tried to calm her down. Hold her for awhile and again told her polite to leave, I really need to sleep. She calmed down and finally at 03:00 in the night she left. Called the reception and told them not to let anyone come up to my room, then I went to bed.

Day 5:

Woke up and got a message from another 141 girl. Not a free one but I banged her before and turns out she knows the girl that was in my hotel the day before. LOL. She asked if I had a good time yesterday and laughed. I did not really know how to respond and said it was OK, we are just different. Then she got all serious and asked why I was so mean to her friend. I told her that honestly I liked her friend, but we really are too different. I know where I met her, and that would not just work out. Crazy these 141 girls.

I called up the slutty girl from Temple street and she agreed to visit at once. We decided on a 2 hour session for 500 and what a contrast to the day before! The room was filled with passion. We spend like 30 minutes in the shower to soap each other, everything nice and slow. Had one of the best sessions for a long time! No rush and with only 10 minutes left (while cuddling) she wanted more. I said there was not enough time but she insisted and said: I like you! I give you for free! I have not had this feeling for a customer before and I have not been with a man outside my work for over 2 years. True or not, never mind! Of course I accepted. Spent another hour with each other and then she said she have to leave. Gave her 500 + 200 tip for the best service I ever had with a WG. Who would have thought that.

I felt really good now and decided I do not need anymore action for today. Anyone else would just be a waste of money. The rest of the day I spent with friends.

Day 6:

Woke up and thought about calling the girl from yesterday but I really needed go eat something first. Tired of eating Chinese food everyday so decided to head down to TST for some kebab. Not the best kebab but hey, better than nothing I guess. Seemed like a nice day so I went down go the harbor again. I just love to spend time here and I prefer to go alone. A great way to relax!

Walking around and I see this woman standing talk to a couple. I look at her and she looked at me. Cool, nice chick and I passed her. Sat down a bit further away to have a smoke. Suddenly I see this girl approaching me. WTH, could she read my mind? A street walker at the harbor? No can't be! She said " ni hao ". I asked her if she could speak English and said yes, little bit. Asked what she was doing here and turns out her friends wanted her to help them to get people to the " big ship " were you can gamble, get massage, eat food etc. I was not interested but I acted interested to keep the conversation going. We ended up talking for 1 hour and agreed to have dinner 3 hours later.

I originally planned to join friends after my walk in the harbor but I could meet up with them after the dinner instead. So now I had 3 hours dead time. Off and look for some more SW spots. I heard that there suppose to be street walkers on Portland street. I have been there many many times but I never saw them. Or it was just me not paying attention to that type of things before? Anyway of to Mongkok! Walked the whole street and I did not find any girls at all. Tried Shanghai street as well but no luck. I might be there too early so I gave up. Back to hotel and rest.

Dinner time and it was great. Spent the following hours at the beautiful evening harbor. We hold hands, hugging and kissing. I felt I wanted more but I really don't want to mess this up so I did not invite her to my room. After sending her back I went back to Mongkok and Portland street. Now it was around 11 in the evening and again, walked down the whole street but still no girls! Checked out all the connecting streets as well but no. Decided to go back to Temple street and by accident I found a group of girls right outside the Yau ma tei MTR on Waterloo road. They were really hiding in the shadows. No good looking ones so left pretty quick.

Back on Temple street again. I really did not want to meet the " GFE " girl that I took to my room before so I avoided her block. To make a long story short. I walked around this area many rounds between 12-02. I found a group of 3 girls and I tried 2 of them one after one. LOL. On my way back to the hotel I found a lonely girl on Woosung street that I saw earlier on Temple street. She looked at me and ask why do I always decline her? Put me right on the spot, I found it quite cute so I went with her as well. I was too tired and could not come so we just relaxed and talked instead. Decided to meet back in SZ later. She was only in HK for a few days anyway so why not.

Back to the hotel and fell asleep quickly.

Day 7:

Last day in HK for now and decided to try Fuji building. I had no expectations at all since I been to many 141 girls before. I just knew they where more expensive than their Kowloon sisters. The entrance was quite flashy compared with other walk ups and I started on the top floor, walking down. After a few floors I met a local guy that kept talking Cantonese with me. I explained that I did not understand well and turned out he could speak pretty good English. We both went through the house knocking on every available door. He kept commenting the girls. " ooh ", " aww ", " nooh ", " haha no " etc. A quite funny experience.

We did not find anything so he wanted to show me a similar building but with cheaper girls. I agreed. I do not know the name of the house but it was not very far away. Maybe a 5 minute walk or so. Did the same thing there, went through the house from top down. Prices seemed to have gone up and there were not a big difference. Between 400-500. Some girls seemed pretty young which is not my thing at all. So we left and agreed to meet up next time I go to Hong Kong instead.

I had a rest and a smoke, then I went back to Fuji building alone. Did the same procedure and found me a nice one. A very rushed experience and the bed was too small. I managed to finish the job but it was in the last minute sort of. Because this was my last day in HK and I went all the way here I wanted to try another one. Knowing it might be too quick after the first one I found a nice MILF. I asked the price and she said 500. For one hour. I thought wow done deal. I asked how old she was and she told me 28, which was a lie. I would say around 40. Body was a bit too skinny when she took off her clothes (I like curves) but her face was better. Eyes were magic and her lips was amazing. We showered together and this woman really had magic hands. She did everything nice and slow, let me extremely hot. Sex was great but unfortunately I did not had enough rest from the first one so we gave up. Anyway a well spent 600 (500+tip). Got her we chat and then left. Headed back to my hotel, got my luggage and left HK. For this time.

These days were great. I had a lots of new experiences and even though my text here was mainly focused on the girls, I had great time with friends as well. Even though I been in HK many times before, this time was special. I had more freedom, not too many appointments, just spending the days as they came. I will definitely do this again in a month or so!

[QUOTE=Aiii2;1706108]Found this site today and with rates starting from 1000 hkd / hour it seems interesting.

Anybody have any experience from it? Are the pictures real? Scam? Too good to be true maybe?[/QUOTE]I can't speak to the rest, but the very first picture of "August" I recognize has been used before for a girl in a Bangkok Massage shop, 10 years ago. Unless she recently moved to Hong Kong and travelled back in time 10 years, I would assume the other pictures are suspect.

[QUOTE=Boarer;1709053]Yikes! There be a troll (or [B]Troll[/B]) in this here forum with a big pole sticking out of its eye (maybe arse) and a foot in its mouth (or both feet)!
[QUOTE=Ikksman;1705335]I am extremely tolerant wrt bad spelling and grammar, but sometimes poor English can impart the wrong meaning or at least confuse the reader.

[B]Troll[/B]
One who purposely and deliberately (that purpose usually being self-amusement) starts an argument in a manner which attacks others on a forum without in any way listening to the arguments proposed by his or her peers.
[SUP][url]http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=troll[/url][/SUP][/QUOTE]
To paraphrase something else written a couple millennia ago, we are fishermen. IMHO, JTL might have better luck with a handsum wallet as a lure. Good for catching ladies and sailfish. Though, for the latter, the captain usually takes a much bigger bite than many ladies.

Many ladies will ask you to buy them a dildo later, in private.

(HKD, HK$ or the official currency of the HKSAR) 15.

Remember, Google and RTFF are your friends.

Now, back to our regular programming... Where did Lancelot leave off....[/QUOTE]Oh. The 15 was offered by the mamasan sitting outside with the girls.

[QUOTE=SaltyPete;1709311]I can't speak to the rest, but the very first picture of "August" I recognize has been used before for a girl in a Bangkok Massage shop, 10 years ago. Unless she recently moved to Hong Kong and travelled back in time 10 years, I would assume the other pictures are suspect.[/QUOTE]Thank you for the reply. Many girls seem to be from thailand actually but I don't know. Had a strange feeling about it. If this was really a genuine escort I'm sure there would be more talk about it here on ISG.

[QUOTE=GoodEnough;1705404]I think the original poster was using "troll" as a verb, meaning to fish using a baited line, in which case the usage is not at all pejorative and refers only to trolling for companions.

GE.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Ikksman;1705335]I am extremely tolerant wrt bad spelling and grammar, but sometimes poor English can impart the wrong meaning or at least confuse the reader.

[B]Troll[/B]
One who purposely and deliberately (that purpose usually being self-amusement) starts an argument in a manner which attacks others on a forum without in any way listening to the arguments proposed by his or her peers.
[SUP][url]http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=troll[/url][/SUP]

Perhaps "trawl" was the word intended to be used. Some (many?) readers would not pick this up, and thus the esteemed [I]JacktheLad2[/I] could hereafter be labelled a "troll" in the minds of those readers.

Or perhaps the writer deliberately labelled our [I]Lad[/I] as a "troll"? But who knows, unless the question is raised!

Other common potentially misleading errors include:
Using the word "inciteful" when "insightful" was the intended meaning.
Failing to distinguish between HKD and USD (or other $) - might be obvious to HK residents and frequent visitors, but . . .

Ikksman[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Boarer;1709053]Yikes! There be a troll (or [B]Troll[/B]) in this here forum with a big pole sticking out of its eye (maybe arse) and a foot in its mouth (or both feet)!

To paraphrase something else written a couple millennia ago, we are fishermen. IMHO, JTL might have better luck with a handsum wallet as a lure. Good for catching ladies and sailfish. Though, for the latter, the captain usually takes a much bigger bite than many ladies.

Many ladies will ask you to buy them a dildo later, in private.

(HKD, HK$ or the official currency of the HKSAR) 15.

Remember, Google and RTFF are your friends.

Now, back to our regular programming... Where did Lancelot leave off....[/QUOTE]Sorry. It should be SirLancelot.

It seems like some of the best-looking girls are in the 141 buildings, but the rooms don't sound very nice. Is it possible to visit a 141 building, then take the girl back to your hotel? If so, how much would it cost for two hours?

The Wanchai bars sound interesting, but one thing I did not understand is why the girls are always asking you right away to buy them a drink. Do they get part of the proceeds from the drink price? Are there bars where the girls don't work there, but just come in to socialize? If the girls don't get any revenue, why are they pushing so hard for you to buy them a drink? I would like to go to a Wanchai bar where I could just meet the girl, then take her back to my hotel room. Where are the best places to meet free-lancers who will come back to my hotel? What would be the price for this?

Thank you for providing me with this information.

Canyon.

In addition to the questions below, I had a couple of other questions. Where is the best place to meet the Filipina domestic helpers? Also, are there any members who would be willing to introduce me to an attractive young woman who gives great service. I am very generous and I treat the ladies very nicely. PM me if you know anyone. I will be in Hong Kong in late July.

Canyon.

[QUOTE=Canyon;1709881]
Do they get part of the proceeds from the drink price? Are there bars where the girls don't work there, but just come in to socialize? If the girls don't get any revenue, why are they pushing so hard for you to buy them a drink? I would like to go to a Wanchai bar where I could just meet the girl, then take her back to my hotel room. Where are the best places to meet free-lancers who will come back to my hotel? What would be the price for this?

Thank you for providing me with this information.

Canyon.[/QUOTE]The quick answer is Yes they do get a part of the proceeds, and some make a nice evening without leaving the bar with drink proceeds. It also means that if they can get you to buy them a drink, they haven't completely wasted their time if you decide to keep looking.

All of the girls in the Wan Chai bars are FL's, they just get a commission when you buy them a drink in certain bars, and the cost of those drinks can add up in a hurry, so choose wisely. I will usually buy a drink of a lady I am seriously considering, if for no other reason than I at least get a vibe either way on occasion. I rarely buy drinks for a girl if I am not at least considering her as take out. The cost varies from lady to lady, but I would say you can expect to pay 1000 to 2000 HKD for a lady for ST, maybe overnight if your lucky. A few get girls much less than this, but if the haggling gets to much I lose interest. One good idea to make SURE she knows what she is expected to do, or that you know what she won't. Do not leave to chance if it is something important to you. Some may try to wiggle out on promises, but if that happens I wiggle out on the full amount of payment, unless we agree otherwise. Most of the ladies are just trying to make a money and if you treat them with respect you will get the same in return. At least that is my experience. Enjoy.

Sky.

[QUOTE=Canyon;1709881]It seems like some of the best-looking girls are in the 141 buildings, but the rooms don't sound very nice. Is it possible to visit a 141 building, then take the girl back to your hotel? If so, how much would it cost for two hours[/QUOTE]It is possible, but only if the girl likes you. But normally you need to have a session with her in her place first. Get to know each other. Then you can ask if she can visit your hotel. If they want to charge you for such a appointment the price would be much higher than if you meet them in their place. Sometimes if you are lucky, handsome and charming man, they won't charge you if they really like you.

Good luck!

[QUOTE=Canyon;1709881]It seems like some of the best-looking girls are in the 141 buildings

Canyon[/QUOTE]All,

I have met 141's Honey Girls before and on many occasions, spending hours choosing on-line (that's also fun) and generally with good results. Girls may not be exactly as they look on the website but they are usually the same person and, in any case, are slim and pretty; also their service is usually good (they moan & move like they enjoy it), which is for me kinda astonishing considering that almost all of them are on ST visas to HK and certainly do not need repeat business, but hey I won't complain.

I've recently read a lot of reviews about 141 buildings (Thanks [B]SirLancelot[/B], [B]Aiii2[/B]! Girls there are considerably less expensive (500 HKD being the standard for a "premium" girl).

As I don't mind having two pops for the price of one I'd like to try them out and, despite my question here, I'll probably give it a go (and report back).

But for the sake of preparation, I have a question for those who tried both already.

Are 141 walkup ladies as pretty / young / slim as the "honey girls"? Or is the premium paid for HG just for the convenience of choosing in the comfort of your home, having a prearranged meeting and possibly meeting the lady in a somewhat nice hotel room? I suppose not many guys like to spend time knocking at tens of doors, checking girls face to face until you find the one (I don; t mind if I have the time).

Also, I have not tried a LT with a honey girl. Is the price 3 x the ST (I. E. 2,400-2,700 HKD)?

Thanks all and wish me happy mongering in HK.

[QUOTE=Canyon;1709881]The Wanchai bars sound interesting, but one thing I did not understand is why the girls are always asking you right away to buy them a drink. Do they get part of the proceeds from the drink price? Canyon.[/QUOTE]I agree with what Sky Rider says.

I know of some girls that can make anything up to $800 - $1000 a night just on ladies drinks. Neptune 111 is the worst with the most "pushy" girls there. You have to be careful as well as the cost can mount up rapidly should they be into tequilas and margarita drinks. From memory they cost about $300 of which the girl gets a fair whack.

As I have reported often in the past, if a girl just simply asks for a drink after a minute or so I refuse as nice as is possible. If I get talking to her, strike up a rapport, and she does not mention buying a drink, I will probably buy her one. Depends on the vibes.

Nearly all the girls in the bars are FL's. There are many bars in Wan Chai with plenty of available girls that will go back with you to your hotel. The DH's used to hang out in New Makati but they are in most places now, particularly at weekends when they have a day off. Definitely a cheaper option. Many are freebies and are over the moon to get a "gift" of $500 as they leave your hotel.

Remember to report back.

[QUOTE=SirLancelot;1700216]Day 3, Hong Kong.

I really like Hong Kong. It's a modern city that feels different feel from other Asian cities I've visited.

I found my girl shortly afterwards. I was reading the signs in one corridor when the door for apartment 701 see swung open. A pretty girl was stood in the doorway wearing a skimpy outfit that revealed a slim, sexy figure. I always think it lacks etiquette asking a girl straight away "how much?" so I stepped closer and asked what her name was. She was Lina and she was 25 years old from Beijing. "You are beautiful" I told her, a line I imagined to be delivered with devastating James Bond like smoothness. After some flirty small-talk I asked her how much and she told me it would cost 500 for the 'full service'. I stepped inside.

As I lay in bed trying to get to sleep, I reflected on my time in Hong Kong so far. It had delivered in almost every area. There is loads to do during the day, the food is great and the 141 apartments are great fun. I'd been with three fantastic girls so far and I still had three days left before my train to Guilin. I was excited to see what tomorrow brings.[/QUOTE]Stellar reports. I just finished a 28 day stint in Pattaya and chronicled the experience on a day-by-day basis. I thought I did a pretty thorough job, but you standard of reporting has given me something higher to aim for my next time around.

I just want to thank Sky, Jack, Mv and Aiii2 for the useful answers to my questions. I will report back any useful information.

Canyon.

[QUOTE=Mvulane;1709980]All,

Are 141 walkup ladies as pretty / young / slim as the "honey girls"? Or is the premium paid for HG just for the convenience of choosing in the comfort of your home, having a prearranged meeting and possibly meeting the lady in a somewhat nice hotel room? I suppose not many guys like to spend time knocking at tens of doors, checking girls face to face until you find the one (I don; t mind if I have the time).[/QUOTE]From my experience the looks of HG is in average better because some 141 walk up have seen their best days already. But that does not say anything about peformance of course. Also there are some really nice 141 walk-ups as good as HG. If you have the time best is to check a few ladies online to your liking ideally in the same building. If you lose interest when personally encounter or all busy, its easy just walk around and check other doors. I did this several times and ended up alwyas with nice companion. Sometimes I would just go there and check randomly. If you go to the poular buildings there will be something for you for sure.

Good luck.

[QUOTE=Aiii2;1707981]Call the girl and arrange a meeting. (The same day you want to meet her). You can also go to her apartment and just knock on the door, but she might be busy, or not even there. I recommend you call her first, have a little chat and ask the price for how long etc.

The best is not too expect too much, pictures are heavily photoshopped and apartmemts are very small. However the girls usual are very kind and helpful. A big plus if you can speak a bit of chinese since most do not speak english.

Good luck![/QUOTE]Thank you very much!

I am about to visit HK for a week, as I have done many times in the past, but this time is different. It's going to be a 100% mongering trip.

I read complaints everywhere that this and that place used to be much better in the past for our hobby, and that the offer now is more expensive / with less to choose from / mechanical / and the list goes on. Where I live, London, things may have actually improved but I think prices are crazy! It must be due to the Russian oligarchs and Arab oil tycoons Whatever the reason, I just can't afford to be taken care of by pretty ladies on a regular basis. Yes I can choose lesser quality girls or even go (almost) free with junkies (hiewwww.) but hey why should I.

In Asia, say what you want, a regular bloke can take home a pretty girl (almost) everyday even on a modest (expat) salary. I wish I get relocated someday! But for the moment, I can only have a taste of what it would be like to live in HK, Manila, etc. During one of my business trips.

So I have decided to take a week off, visit HK (and maybe a few more places) and get the fun I deserve. Meet friends during the day and party during the evening and night.

And thanks to all the contributors of this forum, and to my research (and past experiences), I listed the following options (with budgets):

-[B] 141 walk-ups[/B]: never done them before, as time was an issue on business trips. This time I will try a few buildings in Causeway and Kowloon, going to the top floor and walking down the building knocking at doors. I'm kinda picky in terms of quality, but I understand gems do exist, and I don't care doing it in a messy shoebox-sized apartment // Damage: 500 HKD / session (1 pop).

- [B]141 Honey Girls[/B]: ah, the sex 141 website. How many times I have used it. Too many to count and remember. How does it work? You look it up, choose the girl you like and call the number displayed next to the girl's photo. When someone answers, you say the name of the girl you want and at what time you want to meet her and they tell you a hotel name. You get to the hotel, call again and they will tell you a room number. Go to the room and you're set. Problem is, calling up these numbers is not for everybody, as many times no one at the other end of the phone speaks any (intelligible) English. I do speak a little Cantonese and Mandarin so I always get what I want, that is a generally pretty young slim PRC girl willing to please. I always insist that I either get the girl I request or I'll walk. It works. I used to get bait and switches, not any more. // Damage: 800-900 HKD / session (1 pop) - some girls, almost always foreign girls or locals HK girls, are more expensive but I never tried them. I also understand some girls are available for LT (2,400-2,700 HKD + taxi).

- [B]Saunas & KTV[/B]: there are waaaay less such establishments than many years ago, in HK that is. I read reports about K-pressure, Dundas, and I tried some saunas in Kowloon in the past (forgot the names). Having visited Mainland saunas (before 2010), I thought their HK counterparts were pretty lame. In PRC I got barely legal sex-starved smiling geishas for 600 RMB. Fugget about that in HK. It seems that in HK you invariably get older girls, or girls not as pretty as in other venues anyway; on the positive side, I must say they were usually good and willing to give you a good service and also a good massage. I will not try them on this particular trip // Damage: 500-1,000 HKD depending on the establishment but that includes a massage, free foods and drinks and some other complimentary stuff (and you can rest in their lounges before or after the deed).

- [B]Bars (bar girls and part-timers)[/B]: There may be more than one place in HK to go for this kinda fun, but I know (and tried) only one: Wanchai. I hate those pushy FL girls asking for lady drinks from the moment you step in (this happens more in some bars, like Nep3, than others), but I otherwise love the atmosphere. It's like new years eve all year round. It is also the experience that most resembles picking up a girl in "real life". You talk to a girl, buy her a drink or two, propose to go to your place. Sometimes it's a yes, sometimes it's a no (because she doesn't like you, or because there's no agreement on the terms and conditions). The only differences with real pick up situations are (1) you have to pay their fee and (2) both know exactly what's going to happen back at your place // Damage: I've seen it all! Some will end up liking you so much that they come to your place just for the fun, or for the ladydrink money you already gave them; some will ask for thousands HKD and you end up accepting because you are drunk and kinda fell in love with the girl. But on average I'd say 1,000-1,500 for a LT session + some lady drinks (hopefully not more than 1,000 HKD).

- [B]Bars (freebies)[/B]: I've never tried it yet; silly me! After reading reviews from fellow mongers about this asset class I think it won't take much time and effort to taste this honey after all. Hell, I'm in my early 30's and a well groomed, not ugly (I think.) white Caucasian male (no racism intended, but I certainly look exotic to Asian DHs I guess, just like they look exotic to me). I'll try this a couple of times during my trip, maybe just for the trill, and if doesn't work I'll go cry in the toilet (joking of course. If it doesn't work I'll try a bar girl / part-time gal from the same bar). // Damage: 0-500 HKD "gift".

- [B]Street action[/B]: I sometimes try out local street action on my biz trips, for the thrill mostly. I don't think I'll try it in HK. From what I have heard and seen, they may cost you less than 2-300 HKD but you end up wondering maybe you are the one who should get paid.

- [B]Escort websites[/B]: Even worse than street action but for the opposite reason. You basically pay 5,000 HKD for a what really is a 500 HKD 141 average girl. And you don't get to choose (that is, whomever you choose on the website, it's actually the agent that decides who he / she will send you). Some colleagues of mine tried this in HK, so I know (I can't stop laughing at them as they kept bragging about how they banged a pretty Asian gal for a fraction of the cost of an escort in London. Nahhht really).

- [B]Badoo, WeChat, Tinder, DateInAsia, FilipinoCupid, etc.[/B] : During the last weeks I have tried to prepare for my trip by trying to get to know a few girls on these apps. I still don't know how they [I]really[/I] look like and what's their attitude. Pursuing these options may have landed me a few freebies but so can a short visit to a mall or bar where DHs do. I still have them in my contact lists, but unless something magical happens in the meantime, I'll pass.

I also have a few options that technically shouldn't be in the HK thread. However, since they relate to my HK trip and can be viable options for HK mongers, here they are:

- [B]Macau[/B]: Saunas (Rio, Familia Nobre, East Spa, East Castle). I ventured the Macau forum and discovered really good service from a "model" would set you back 1,800-2,200 HKD / hour session, plus maybe 500 HKD for ferry and taxi. I know it's expensive compared to other options in HK but hey that's exactly what I pay here in London for a regular girl. May be worth, I'm considering it as an option anyway. Let's see if I'll feel like it.

- [B]Angeles (Philippines)[/B]: yes, you read it right. I just discovered AC is only a short 2 h / 1,800 HKD return flight from HK. Door to (bar) door, maybe 5 hours? As I read from the Angeles forum that girls in Angeles are rock-bottom cheap, including stunners, and hotels cost less than a HK ladydrink a night, I may give it a try.

- [B]ShenZhen / ZhuHai[/B]: They used to be the places to go for excellent saunas and cheap freelancers from the north of PRC (and excellent food, cheap hotels and low priced knockoff electronic gadgets). You can prove me wrong, but I think this is over.

Now, where to stay.

I've had my issues in the past bringing girls to my hotel room, be it issues with elevators requiring hotel keys, walks of shame, having hotel rooms next to colleagues. Hotel staff usually don't care a lick about you bringing ladies up to your room, but they certainly won't help you with it (astonishingly they do so in Moscow, but that's for another post). So, I went twith he two options below since 2012:

- [B]Girl-friendly hotels[/B]: I have been to many 141 Honey Girls hotels and they all have (not surprisingly) one characteristic in common: they are extremely girl friendly. Almost all (a) do not require room keys to operate the lift and (2) have elevators and lobbies separated from hotel check-in areas. I have a list I can post if you want. Oh, if you're lucky, there may be a 141 HG party happening there right when you are staying there.

- [B]B&Bs[/B]: Since AirBnB started, I have been a fan. I mean: cheaper than hotels, as private as can be, . If the employer is paying, everybody wins: they get to pay less, you get a classy apartment where you can bring ladies day and night, without any issues. You can even have separate rooms: one for the action and one for resting.

So, I'm finalizing my schedule, and if you have comments, corrections or ideas, speak now or forever hold your peace.

[QUOTE=Mvulane;1710592]I am about to visit HK for a week, as I have done many times in the past, but this time is different. It's going to be a 100% mongering trip.[/QUOTE]Hi Mvulane,

I am looking forward to your TR as I am contemplating a first-time trip. I am interested in Honey Girls but don't speak a lick of Mandarin / Cantonese. Do you think the handlers would respond better to texts than calls? I can always use a text translating app. Or should I stick to the girls that list English as a language in their profiles?

Thanks

[QUOTE=Mvulane;1710592]
Girl-friendly hotels: ... I have a list I can post if you want..... [/QUOTE]Yes, I would interested in this list if you can share, thanks.

[QUOTE=Mvulane;1710592] 141 walk-ups: ....going to the top floor and walking down the building knocking at doors. [/QUOTE]So, in this buildings the doors are close and you have to knocking at all doors for check all girls there?
Why they don't leave a door open like a German Erotic Laufhaus in the Red Light Districts.

[QUOTE=Mvulane;1710592]if you have comments, corrections or ideas, speak now or forever hold your peace.[/QUOTE]Two general and polite comments:

1. Most hotels are GF, as long as they don't dress like a WG.

2. Why HK for 100% mongering trip? Better venues: Bkk / Thailand, Philippines, even Indonesia.

For more in depth FR, look at Natty Bumpo's numerous posts on his escapades to HK and the above three countries.

[QUOTE=Traveler1234;1710901]Two general and polite comments:

1. Most hotels are GF, as long as they don't dress like a WG.[/QUOTE]That's true, if you mean all would allow WGs in your room. But I refer to those where it's actually convenient. I don't like to walk in with a girl I picked up at a bar and smile at the reception, or having to wait my outcall at the lobby because she needs a key.

[QUOTE=Traveler1234;171090]2. Why HK for 100% mongering trip? Better venues: Bkk / Thailand, Philippines, even Indonesia.[/QUOTE]I have friends there and it is easier to justify a solo trip to HK back home. I guess I'm shy.

[QUOTE=Traveler1234;1710901]For more in depth FR, look at Natty Bumpo's numerous posts on his escapades to HK and the above three countries.[/QUOTE]Oh yes Natty Bumpo's posts. All loaded up on my kindle and most read at least twice. In fact I've got 47 TR to read (again) during my flight. 12 hours are a long journey.

Anyway, thanks for your polite comments.

[QUOTE=ChristianG;1710884]Yes, I would interested in this list if you can share, thanks.[/QUOTE]Here are four of them:

1. [B]Wharney Guang Dong Hong Kong[/B]. 57 - 73 Lockhart Road, Wan Chai, Hong Kong, Hong Kong.

You can enter and go directly to the lift. WGs outside the hotel entrance, in the lobby and possibly in the rooms (HGs). This hotel is within Wanchai's bar district so you get the picture.

2. Charterhouse Causeway Bay. 209-219 Wanchai Road, Wan Chai, Hong Kong, Hong Kong.

3. [B]Walden Hotel[/B]. 353 Hennessy Road, Wan Chai, Hong Kong, Hong Kong.

Really good hotel: the hotel has two separate entrances. One brings you to the lobby, the other to the hotel's lifts. No key required to use the lift and HGs definitely operating from it.

4. The Langham Hong Kong. 8 Peking Road, Tsim Sha Tsui, Hong Kong, Hong Kong.

(NB: I highlighted my picks).

[QUOTE=ChristianG;1710884]So, in this buildings the doors are close and you have to knocking at all doors for check all girls there?

Why they don't leave a door open like a German Erotic Laufhaus in the Red Light Districts.[/QUOTE]Don't know. One of the reason I have not tried these before is indeed because I don't want to go through the process of knocking at 30 doors, refusing 29-30 girls and (maybe, just maybe) doing one. But, I think it'll be possible to walk around the building and just glimpse at the girls whenever another punter is at the door. Of course, this strategy carries the risk of having your choice stolen by another guy.

I like Brussels' RLD where you can walk at look at the girls through the windows. I guess that would not be allowed in HK (on morality grounds).

[QUOTE=SaltyPete;1710874]Hi Mvulane,

I am looking forward to your TR as I am contemplating a first-time trip. I am interested in Honey Girls but don't speak a lick of Mandarin / Cantonese. Do you think the handlers would respond better to texts than calls? I can always use a text translating app. Or should I stick to the girls that list English as a language in their profiles?

Thanks[/QUOTE]Me too.

Well, I guess it is possible to hook up with HGs even if you don't speak Cantonese / Mandarin, as some handlers do speak a little English. Those who don't want to make the effort will simply hung up on you and not even reply to your texts. I just think you would be missing out as some arrangers won't allow foreigners (because girls doesn't want), or those who can't speak Chinese, with certain girls (to avoid misunderstanding, conflicts, etc.).

But yes try choosing any of those who list English as one of their spoken language and please do me (and yourself) a favor: repeat as many times as you can the name of the girls you want saying "I want (only (ok? Works every time.

Dropped into Wanchai early Tuesday night to meet a friend. Dropped into HK Cafe. It was a bit quiet though its a Monday night. Seemed to more ladies than gents. Then dropped into Escape. It was busy for a Monday night. Probably more guys than ladies. Seemed to be lots of Thai, Vietnamese and Filipine ladies, though less South American ladies than usual. Very few Indo ladies were at either bar. Actually only knew one lady outside of my friend. I must be out of touch. At least I could enter the bars without showing ID.

For the gents. The all girl band at HK Cafe is off for a week.

Hi Guys,

Been to HK many times, but my last solo visits were years ago. I've avidly read the reports on the Wan Chai bars, but I've yet to come across any pick up bars featuring Chinese girls. I'm not talking about the 141 sites or escort services but bars or night clubs offering Chinese ladies for take out. Any assistance would be appreciated.

Thanks,

GE.

[QUOTE=GoodEnough;1711264]Hi Guys,
I've avidly read the reports on the Wan Chai bars, but I've yet to come across any pick up bars featuring Chinese girls.

GE.[/QUOTE]Chinese girls don't stay long enough to be conversant enough to work in Wan Chai bars. They might work the KTV and 'local bar' scenes where Mandarin is used.

Traveler is right with his post. Local ladies tend to work in karaoke / KTV type bars. There are definitely at least 2 or 3 in Wanchai. Note these bars can be expensive.

It will be my first trip to HK and I was wondering if the forum will be online and could be accessed there or does it have some restrictions as some countries impose. The same questions applies for Macau. Any help, as it will save me a lot of preparation ahead to gather all the info.

[QUOTE=DuffyDuck;1711785]It will be my first trip to HK and I was wondering if the forum will be online and could be accessed there or does it have some restrictions as some countries impose. The same questions applies for Macau. Any help, as it will save me a lot of preparation ahead to gather all the info.[/QUOTE]You will have no problems. There are no restrictions.

Hi folks,

I will be in Hong Kong for a few weeks in June. I have been going through the forums for general information, but the layout of the city has me kind of confused. I will be staying on Yanhe Road, close to Shuiku Park (See attached map). Is there anyone familiar enough with the city who can offer some insight on how close the hotel is to any of the mongering action? (pickup up bars, Dundas, Wan Chai, street action). I don't mind a quick taxi ride, but if this is half hour from any fun, I will change my reservation.

Thank you for any help.

[QUOTE=SimonSays;1711972]Hi folks,

I will be in Hong Kong for a few weeks in June. I have been going through the forums for general information, but the layout of the city has me kind of confused. I will be staying on Yanhe Road, close to Shuiku Park (See attached map). Is there anyone familiar enough with the city who can offer some insight on how close the hotel is to any of the mongering action? (pickup up bars, Dundas, Wan Chai, street action). I don't mind a quick taxi ride, but if this is half hour from any fun, I will change my reservation.

Thank you for any help.[/QUOTE]Hong Kong action is about 3 hours away if not more. This place is not even in Hong Kong, it is in Shenzhen. In other words, you are in a completely different city!

[QUOTE=SimonSays;1711972]Hi folks,

I will be in Hong Kong for a few weeks in June. I have been going through the forums for general information, but the layout of the city has me kind of confused. I will be staying on Yanhe Road, close to Shuiku Park (See attached map). Is there anyone familiar enough with the city who can offer some insight on how close the hotel is to any of the mongering action? (pickup up bars, Dundas, Wan Chai, street action). I don't mind a quick taxi ride, but if this is half hour from any fun, I will change my reservation.

Thank you for any help.[/QUOTE]Are you sure you are booked into a hotel in Hong Kong, the map seems to be over the border in Shenzhen.

Teltel.

[QUOTE=SimonSays;1711972]Hi folks,

I will be in Hong Kong for a few weeks in June. I have been going through the forums for general information, but [b]the layout of the city has me kind of confused[/b]. I will be staying on Yanhe Road, close to Shuiku Park (See attached map). Is there anyone familiar enough with the city who can offer some insight on how close the hotel is to any of the mongering action? (pickup up bars, Dundas, Wan Chai, street action). I don't mind a quick taxi ride, but if this is half hour from any fun, I will change my reservation.
Thank you for any help.[/QUOTE]You are really confused! Your hotel is not in Hong Kong - it is in China! It would take you about 2 hours to get to Wan Chai and of course you would need a PRC visa. Your hotel appears to be the [I]FX Hotel[/I]. It is in Luohu District, but is not close to the Luohu commercial district. It is a cheap 3 star hotel. Many 3 star hotels are not even registered to have foreign guests (they need to pay a fee and have special equipment to transmit foreigners' details to the Public Security Bureau). You would need to check!

I recommend that you do more research. And be prepared to pay at least 7 times the FX Hotel rate for a reasonable HK hotel (unless you are happy to stay in a Chungking Mansions style cupboard hotel room or a guest house).

Ikksman.

[QUOTE=Ikksman;1712008]You are really confused! Your hotel is not in Hong Kong - it is in China! It would take you about 2 hours to get to Wan Chai and of course you would need a PRC visa. Your hotel appears to be the [I]FX Hotel[/I]. It is in Luohu District, but is not close to the Luohu commercial district. It is a cheap 3 star hotel. Many 3 star hotels are not even registered to have foreign guests (they need to pay a fee and have special equipment to transmit foreigners' details to the Public Security Bureau). You would need to check!

I recommend that you do more research. And be prepared to pay at least 7 times the FX Hotel rate for a reasonable HK hotel (unless you are happy to stay in a Chungking Mansions style cupboard hotel room or a guest house).

Ikksman[/QUOTE]That's embarrassing. Good thing I checked. Thank you for pointing me in the right direction. The location is a Vacation Rental (which upon closer inspection is located at the Futian Port. I'm not sure how they got it listed as a Hong Kong Rental). It looked nice for $75 per night. But I guess there was a reason for that. Vacation Rentals in Hong Kong are broken down into subcategories. Hong Kong Island, Kowloon, Sai Kung, and Tsim Sha Tsui. At the risk of embarrassing myself again, can you recommend which of those locations I should be looking in?

Simon

[QUOTE=SimonSays;1711972]Hi folks,

I will be in Hong Kong for a few weeks in June. I have been going through the forums for general information, but the layout of the city has me kind of confused. I will be staying on Yanhe Road, close to Shuiku Park (See attached map). Is there anyone familiar enough with the city who can offer some insight on how close the hotel is to any of the mongering action? (pickup up bars, Dundas, Wan Chai, street action). I don't mind a quick taxi ride, but if this is half hour from any fun, I will change my reservation.

Thank you for any help.[/QUOTE]I have had a look at some travel websites, seems this hotel (and possibly others) are advertised as in Shenzhen, Hong Kong. Perhaps a ploy to get customers who actually intend to travel to Hong Kong. Maybe this is the reason the OP thought he was staying in Hing Kong.

Teltel.

[QUOTE=Mvulane;1710592]I am about to visit HK for a week, as I have done many times in the past, but this time is different. It's going to be a 100% mongering trip.

I read complaints everywhere that this and that place used to be much better in the past for our hobby, and that the offer now is more expensive / with less to choose from / mechanical / and the list goes on. Where I live, London, things may have actually improved but I think prices are crazy! It must be due to the Russian oligarchs and Arab oil tycoons Whatever the reason, I just can't afford to be taken care of by pretty ladies on a regular basis. Yes I can choose lesser quality girls or even go (almost) free with junkies (hiewwww.) but hey why should I.

In Asia, say what you want, a regular bloke can take home a pretty girl (almost) everyday even on a modest (expat) salary. I wish I get relocated someday! But for the moment, I can only have a taste of what it would be like to live in HK, Manila, etc. During one of my business trips.

So I have decided to take a week off, visit HK (and maybe a few more places) and get the fun I deserve. Meet friends during the day and party during the evening and night.

And thanks to all the contributors of this forum, and to my research (and past experiences), I listed the following options (with budgets):

-[B] 141 walk-ups[/B]: never done them before, as time was an issue on business trips. This time I will try a few buildings in Causeway and Kowloon, going to the top floor and walking down the building knocking at doors. I'm kinda picky in terms of quality, but I understand gems do exist, and I don't care doing it in a messy shoebox-sized apartment // Damage: 500 HKD / session (1 pop).

- [B]141 Honey Girls[/B]: ah, the sex 141 website. How many times I have used it. Too many to count and remember. How does it work? You look it up, choose the girl you like and call the number displayed next to the girl's photo. When someone answers, you say the name of the girl you want and at what time you want to meet her and they tell you a hotel name. You get to the hotel, call again and they will tell you a room number. Go to the room and you're set. Problem is, calling up these numbers is not for everybody, as many times no one at the other end of the phone speaks any (intelligible) English. I do speak a little Cantonese and Mandarin so I always get what I want, that is a generally pretty young slim PRC girl willing to please. I always insist that I either get the girl I request or I'll walk. It works. I used to get bait and switches, not any more. // Damage: 800-900 HKD / session (1 pop) - some girls, almost always foreign girls or locals HK girls, are more expensive but I never tried them. I also understand some girls are available for LT (2,400-2,700 HKD + taxi).

- [B]Saunas & KTV[/B]: there are waaaay less such establishments than many years ago, in HK that is. I read reports about K-pressure, Dundas, and I tried some saunas in Kowloon in the past (forgot the names). Having visited Mainland saunas (before 2010), I thought their HK counterparts were pretty lame. In PRC I got barely legal sex-starved smiling geishas for 600 RMB. Fugget about that in HK. It seems that in HK you invariably get older girls, or girls not as pretty as in other venues anyway; on the positive side, I must say they were usually good and willing to give you a good service and also a good massage. I will not try them on this particular trip // Damage: 500-1,000 HKD depending on the establishment but that includes a massage, free foods and drinks and some other complimentary stuff (and you can rest in their lounges before or after the deed).

- [B]Bars (bar girls and part-timers)[/B]: There may be more than one place in HK to go for this kinda fun, but I know (and tried) only one: Wanchai. I hate those pushy FL girls asking for lady drinks from the moment you step in (this happens more in some bars, like Nep3, than others), but I otherwise love the atmosphere. It's like new years eve all year round...[/QUOTE]This is an awesome post to actually understand the punting scene in HK. Maybe will utilize the tips at my next trip to HK. Was in HK recently for couple of days and would just like to say to fellow mongers to abstain from the urge of going for any "[B]out call massage in your hotel[/B]" kind of websites. They are a rip-off and I burnt my fingers.

I later on stuck to a reliable source just across the border in Shenzhen and she was happy to accommodate my request to stay overnight. Damages around RMB 3 K including taxi fare.

Didn't try the 141 walk-ups. Selected the girl in PE road but rejected her after seeing. Maybe looks really matter to me besides figure.

Ciao,

Samjac

[QUOTE=GoodEnough;1705404]I think the original poster was using "troll" as a verb, meaning to fish using a baited line, in which case the usage is not at all pejorative and refers only to trolling for companions.
GE.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Ikksman;1705335]I am extremely tolerant wrt bad spelling and grammar, but sometimes poor English can impart the wrong meaning or at least confuse the reader.

[B]Troll[/B]
One who purposely and deliberately (that purpose usually being self-amusement) starts an argument in a manner which attacks others on a forum without in any way listening to the arguments proposed by his or her peers.
[SUP][url]http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=troll[/url][/SUP]

Perhaps "trawl" was the word intended to be used. Some (many?) readers would not pick this up, and thus the esteemed [I]JacktheLad2[/I] could hereafter be labelled a "troll" in the minds of those readers.

Or perhaps the writer deliberately labelled our [I]Lad[/I] as a "troll"? But who knows, unless the question is raised!

Other common potentially misleading errors include:
Using the word "inciteful" when "insightful" was the intended meaning.
Failing to distinguish between HKD and USD (or other $) - might be obvious to HK residents and frequent visitors, but . . .

Ikksman[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Boarer;1709053]Yikes! There be a troll (or [B]Troll[/B]) in this here forum with a big pole sticking out of its eye (maybe arse) and a foot in its mouth (or both feet)!

To paraphrase something else written a couple millennia ago, we are fishermen. IMHO, JTL might have better luck with a handsum wallet as a lure. Good for catching ladies and sailfish. Though, for the latter, the captain usually takes a much bigger bite than many ladies.

Many ladies will ask you to buy them a dildo later, in private.

(HKD, HK$ or the official currency of the HKSAR) 15.

Remember, Google and RTFF are your friends.

Now, back to our regular programming... Where did Lancelot leave off....[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Chantik;1711374]Traveler is right with his post. Local ladies tend to work in karaoke / KTV type bars. There are definitely at least 2 or 3 in Wanchai. Note these bars can be expensive.[/QUOTE]IMHO, they are expensive, at least for me. China and Macao offer better value. Several also in CWB and TST. There is / was one close to the old Club Boss that is/was pretty nice.

Finally I had the opportunity to visit bar 109 on a Sunday! I showed up around 4 pm, from what I heard a little late maybe, but I couldn't get out of bed earlier.

My body was still in european time. Anyhow, I could hardly squeeze myself in, because the place was packed, some girls dancing on the bartable.

Before the beer that I ordered was delivered, I already had eyecontact with a group of girls who were obviously in high spirits.

One of them was pushed in my direction by her friends, fortunately the one I liked the most: a sweet young thing from Indonesia. She liked tequila and I ordered her some.

Soon we were dancing like sex with our clothes on, interrupted only by passionate sessions of DFK.

I was a bit shocked, when she opened my trousers and explored and stroked the hidden goods with her hands.

I was even more shocked, when her girlfriend tried to join the exploration!

That was to much for me, time to leave for my hotelroom with the girl who made me hot in the first place.

She informed me about her period, but a good sailor can manage the red sea also. A little compensation for her was agreed on and she joined me with a happy smile.

In my room: good, really good! I would love to repeat!

[QUOTE=Mvulane;1710592]- [B]Bars (freebies)[/B]: I've never tried it yet; silly me! After reading reviews from fellow mongers about this asset class I think it won't take much time and effort to taste this honey after all. Hell, I'm in my early 30's and a well groomed, not ugly (I think.) white Caucasian male (no racism intended, but I certainly look exotic to Asian DHs I guess, just like they look exotic to me). I'll try this a couple of times during my trip, maybe just for the trill, and if doesn't work I'll go cry in the toilet (joking of course. If it doesn't work I'll try a bar girl / part-time gal from the same bar). // Damage: 0-500 HKD "gift".

- [B]Street action[/B]: I sometimes try out local street action on my biz trips, for the thrill mostly. I don't think I'll try it in HK. From what I have heard and seen, they may cost you less than 2-300 HKD but you end up wondering maybe you are the one who should get paid.[/QUOTE]I enjoy your post Mvulane, but a "gift" of 0-500 HKD as payment for sex is only possible if the girl really like you. Some of the Philippine or Indonesian DH's might be happy with this arrangement for one night, but believe me this is rare! You must be lucky, good looking, well behaved etc. Maybe you are. And then you could try your luck in some of the bars in WanChai or LanKwaiFong. But with such skills. You might have luck with some of the western girls there also.

Working girls are there mainly for the money. 2000 HKD seems to be the standard asking price these days, but I always manage to negotiate down to 1000 HKD for sometimes an all-night. Take your time if you find a girl you like, give her some drinks. She will get tipsy, like you better, perform better in bed etc. If there is a good chemistry she will likely lower her bid! And you will get to know her better also and enjoy a good time in the bar. In my opinion the Philippine girls and the Indonesian girls are most likely to lower their price. Girls from Thailand and Vietnam is less desperate and will stick to their high price (not to mention the Columbian ladies.). It is up to you and your wallet, but please always remember to treat the girls nice even the price is low or high.

Hello all,

Long time lurker, first time poster on the international site. I've been to HK several times but this is my first trip coming alone. Not having to worry about my coworkers seeing what I'm doing, I figured I'd take a few laps around Wan Chai. Checked out the regular clubs and they seemed to be pretty busy but not packed. Went to Amazonia and Neptunes to grab a couple of drinks, lots of eye contact but most of the girls were already with guys. I also think I might have gotten out there too late on a Sunday (about 9 pm) to find a part-timer or DH.

I thought it would be better to go solo to the bars but it's a little awkward to go into the busy bars alone to have a drink.

Here till Wednesday, will probably go out again each night to see what I can find but I'm not holding my breath since the DHs will most likely not be around during the week.

Thoughts?

[QUOTE=SimonSays;1712037]{S N I P}Vacation Rentals in Hong Kong are broken down into subcategories. Hong Kong Island, Kowloon, Sai Kung, and Tsim Sha Tsui. At the risk of embarrassing myself again, can you recommend which of those locations I should be looking in?
Simon[/QUOTE]Difficult to recommend without knowing your preferences and $ painpoints. But prices are always a bit cheaper further out from the main areas (but still less that 30 minutes by taxi). Just avoid crossing the harbour by taxi. Check hotels on tripadvisor and be aware that HKI hotel prices jump when there is a big convention in town.

[QUOTE=Teltel;1712125]I have had a look at some travel websites, seems this hotel (and possibly others) are advertised as in Shenzhen, Hong Kong. Perhaps a ploy to get customers who actually intend to travel to Hong Kong. Maybe this is the reason the OP thought he was staying in Hing Kong.
Teltel.[/QUOTE]You are right! There seems to be a whole bunch of vacation rentals available at Futian Port all near the Sheraton FourPoint and all having the location shown as in Luohu about 12 Km away (possibly so that the HK / PRC border does not show on the map)? And the prices are double what one would pay if one booked the same apartments direct (but even so, quite cheap compared to HK). Smells fishy to me!

Ikksman

P.S. The location of the apartments is close to both Futian Port (1 hour 35 minutes to Hung Hom / TST by train) and Huanggang Port (1 hour 10 minutes to Wanchai by bus). So still pretty close to HK areas of interest. Huanggang Guan is the only 24 hour entry point. I have stayed at the Sheraton Four Point (business tower suites are really nice) and commuted daily to HK for one third of the cost of staying at an equivalent hotel in HKI).

[QUOTE=AzGunRunner;1712713]Hello all,{S N I P}
Here till Wednesday, will probably go out again each night to see what I can find but I'm not holding my breath since the DHs will most likely not be around during the week.
Thoughts?[/QUOTE]I have posted previously (more than once), how to find DHers during the week (such as at World Wide Plaza). But be aware most DHers need to get home by 8 or 9 pm, and their home may be one hour away in the New Territories (train then bus).

If only visiting HK for a few days mid-week it is best to use dating sites to get DHers who have free time that meets your schedule. Again, the methodology has been posted here previously.

Ikksman

[QUOTE=Ikksman;1712871]I have posted previously (more than once), how to find DHers during the week (such as at World Wide Plaza). But be aware most DHers need to get home by 8 or 9 pm, and their home may be one hour away in the New Territories (train then bus).

If only visiting HK for a few days mid-week it is best to use dating sites to get DHers who have free time that meets your schedule. Again, the methodology has been posted here previously.

Ikksman[/QUOTE]Right on, thanks for the feedback. I'll search for the earlier posts.

[QUOTE=Traveller747;1712656]Finally I had the opportunity to visit bar 109 on a Sunday! I showed up around 4 pm, from what I heard a little late maybe, but I couldn't get out of bed earlier.[/QUOTE]Great report. Thank you!

Yes, 109 on Sunday morning can be wild. More than a few times I have caught a girl's hands in my pocket, but I have never had anything stolen! And occasionally the girls will have no panty under that short skirt. It can be great fun. The downside is that most of the girls there want to be paid and the drinks are expensive. But it is still a blast and Ming Court is nearby.

Best tough is to arrive earlier. I think it gets going about 11, and by 3 the crowd starts to move to other bars.

Hi guys,

Please could anyone recommended any good massage parlor that offers tantric / nuru massage, try the 141 web site but it is fake and to be honest, most of the pics in 141 are fake.. So please be aware of that.

[QUOTE=HotFuss;1713572]Hi guys,

Please could anyone recommended any good massage parlor that offers tantric / nuru massage, try the 141 web site but it is fake and to be honest, most of the pics in 141 are fake.. So please be aware of that.[/QUOTE]Also note that all the pics on the HK Craigslist "Therapeutic" section are fake. The Google reverse-image-search tool is so useful.

Search here for Daily Spa. It's nuru, full-service, very high quality, but expensive. I've also tried Coral Spa in TST, which is tantric with HE, no BJ / FS, nice looking girls in a good environment, but again, premium prices.

Just a couple of thoughts. YMMV.

[QUOTE=Idler31;1713880]Also note that all the pics on the HK Craigslist "Therapeutic" section are fake. The Google reverse-image-search tool is so useful.

Search here for Daily Spa. It's nuru, full-service, very high quality, but expensive. I've also tried Coral Spa in TST, which is tantric with HE, no BJ / FS, nice looking girls in a good environment, but again, premium prices.

Just a couple of thoughts. YMMV.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the information, will definitely try the places you have mentioned. Is there any other place you can recommend?

Thanks

[QUOTE=GoodEnough;1705404]I think the original poster was using "troll" as a verb, meaning to fish using a baited line, in which case the usage is not at all pejorative and refers only to trolling for companions.

GE.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Ikksman;1705335]I am extremely tolerant wrt bad spelling and grammar, but sometimes poor English can impart the wrong meaning or at least confuse the reader.

[B]Troll[/B]
One who purposely and deliberately (that purpose usually being self-amusement) starts an argument in a manner which attacks others on a forum without in any way listening to the arguments proposed by his or her peers.
[SUP][url]http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=troll[/url][/SUP]

Perhaps "trawl" was the word intended to be used. Some (many?) readers would not pick this up, and thus the esteemed [I]JacktheLad2[/I] could hereafter be labelled a "troll" in the minds of those readers.

Or perhaps the writer deliberately labelled our [I]Lad[/I] as a "troll"? But who knows, unless the question is raised!

Other common potentially misleading errors include:
Using the word "inciteful" when "insightful" was the intended meaning.
Failing to distinguish between HKD and USD (or other $) - might be obvious to HK residents and frequent visitors, but . . .

Ikksman[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Boarer;1709053]Yikes! There be a troll (or [B]Troll[/B]) in this here forum with a big pole sticking out of its eye (maybe arse) and a foot in its mouth (or both feet)!

To paraphrase something else written a couple millennia ago, we are fishermen. IMHO, JTL might have better luck with a handsum wallet as a lure. Good for catching ladies and sailfish. Though, for the latter, the captain usually takes a much bigger bite than many ladies.

Many ladies will ask you to buy them a dildo later, in private.

(HKD, HK$ or the official currency of the HKSAR) 15.

Remember, Google and RTFF are your friends.

Now, back to our regular programming... Where did Lancelot leave off....[/QUOTE]Think someone was asking about meeting DH on weekdays. Friday is actually a holiday so there would be many DH who have the day off. For various reasons, I have arranged for a DH I know to get permission to stay out Friday and maybe Saturday night. A good mate is in town and I plan to have her bump into us at NIII mid afternoon. Hopefully that will put a smile back on his face before his flight. LOL.

[QUOTE=Boarer;1714461]Think someone was asking about meeting DH on weekdays. Friday is actually a holiday so there would be many DH who have the day off. .[/QUOTE]Bear in mind quite a few DH only work during the day and have the evening off. I met a couple recently who basically had the evening off, only working during the day.

They could be found in NM (have not tried there since it got quiet after the murder) but I also got lucky in Insiders where a couple of DH were regularly there every night. The usual DH rates applied!

[QUOTE=Aviator12;1712668]I enjoy your post Mvulane, but a "gift" of 0-500 HKD as payment for sex is only possible if the girl really like you. Some of the Philippine or Indonesian DH's might be happy with this arrangement for one night, but believe me this is rare! You must be lucky, good looking, well behaved etc. Maybe you are. And then you could try your luck in some of the bars in WanChai or LanKwaiFong. But with such skills. You might have luck with some of the western girls there also.

Working girls are there mainly for the money. 2000 HKD seems to be the standard asking price these days, but I always manage to negotiate down to 1000 HKD for sometimes an all-night. Take your time if you find a girl you like, give her some drinks. She will get tipsy, like you better, perform better in bed etc. If there is a good chemistry she will likely lower her bid! And you will get to know her better also and enjoy a good time in the bar. In my opinion the Philippine girls and the Indonesian girls are most likely to lower their price. Girls from Thailand and Vietnam is less desperate and will stick to their high price (not to mention the Columbian ladies.). It is up to you and your wallet, but please always remember to treat the girls nice even the price is low or high.[/QUOTE]This is true if you pick up in the bars, because the DHs in the bars are there to work. However in the past month I have picked up no fewer than 3 DHs off the street at various times of the day / week and been fucking them at an hourly within 20 minutes with no mention of money. They all accepted what I chose to give them (500) without complaint (one was reluctant to take anything!) and all gave me their numbers and wanted to meet me again. Lots of DHs between contracts or who are off on days other than Sunday or who live out (illegally) visit agencies or go to the Immigration Department or stay in boarding houses many of which are clustered in Wan Chai. If you have the guts to walk up to a girl who makes eyes at you and go for the gold straight away the hit rate is relatively high. I don't consider myself good looking, but I am a nice guy and I think that shows through quickly. YMMV.

Question: Is it a common habit with Filipinas that they just stand you up when you schedule a date with them? 2 different Filipinas have done this to me in the past few months. One I made a date to meet her and she didn't show after half an hour and couldn't reach her by text, phone, e-mail, anything. She finally got in touch with me 2 weeks later from a different number and claimed to have been in a taxi accident that destroyed her phone. Gave her the benefit of the doubt and fucked her a couple more times then she did it again a few weeks ago and I haven't heard from her. So even if I hear from her again I won't make plans with her. But another Filipina did the same thing last week. Didn't show up and not reachable by text, phone, whatever, finally contacted me saying she'd lost her phone, but she'd texted me the day before and what a coincidence she loses her phone the day we are to meet then texts me later from the same number. Is losing a phone really that common? If I made as little money as they do I'd hold on to that fucking thing for dear life. Anyway that girl was not hot enough to get a second chance. Do any of you guys regularly get this line of BS from Filipinas? I thought they only told sob stories for money, what's in it for them to stand you up when you have a date planned? No Indo has ever done this to me.

Anyway. Enjoy the holiday weekend, have fun and stay safe.

[QUOTE=JohnnyRocket;1714492]Is losing a phone really that common?[/QUOTE]Filipinas never REALLY lose their phone, because that would require them to let go of the fucking thing for a moment.

Yes a few DH live out and work during the day. But do you think they have enough energy to work 10 to 12 hrs a day, and go out every night. I doubt it.

Johnny Rockets is accurate.

[QUOTE=Chantik;1714723]Yes a few DH live out and work during the day. But do you think they have enough energy to work 10 to 12 hrs a day, and go out every night. I doubt it.[/QUOTE]You do your girls an injustice! They seem to have plenty energy and stamina. Ay least, the ones I have met.

[QUOTE=Chantik;1714723]Yes a few DH live out and work during the day. But do you think they have enough energy to work 10 to 12 hrs a day, and go out every night. I doubt it.

Johnny Rockets is accurate.[/QUOTE]I generally agree, but I have met DHers who illegally live out and they have 2 or more part-time jobs (often just cleaning for single people or childless couples). These girls do not necessarily work 10 to 12 hours per day, and may go out some nights if they feel the urge. And, of course they do not need to be home by 9:00pm!

Ikksman

[QUOTE=JohnnyRocket;1714492]Question: Is it a common habit with Filipinas that they just stand you up when you schedule a date with them?..[/QUOTE]Filipinas in general have no consept of "agreed time to meet". They always show up late for a date. I really don't know why but I think it has something to do with the so called "Phillipine Time"; the clock has no indicators whatsoever! It might not be true for all, but I have experienced this on at least 10 dates with Filipine girls. And yes, they do loose their phones at an alarming rate. Both in Hong Kong and at home. Very strange indeed.

Does anybody feel like meeting up tonight and going for a few drinks, showing a newbie to Hong Kong the ropes in Wan Chai? Please do message if interested!

Seems to be a lots of talk about DHs here in the HK forum. So here goes.

I have only met one DH in my life ever. I never had any thoughts about having sex with her but quite early she was very flirty. She wanted to hold hands in public, making jokes about sex etc. I knew where this was going.

I honestly told her that we can be friends and she seemed surprised. " You do not want to have fun? " - she asked. I told her no. But we can be friends.

After our relationship grew (friends only) we have been talking about this Wanchai and LKF bar scene. She admitted that she had sex with men (mainly foreigners) for money. 1500 a night, or gifts or whatever. She told me that at least I must get something out of it first, - I am not going to let anyone take advantage of me for free. I got the impression that she got hurt previously by men when she involved her feelings in relationships.

Now she had multiple relationships with men at the same time, that either paid her or gave her gifts. All men she said only wanted her for sex. She did not have anything good to say about these men except that she made money from them. When describing it she seemed to enjoy it, but after talking about it more the happiness was just a facade. I am not going in to details about this one but lets just say she had been treated very bad a few times. Even so, money talks and had no plans to ending it.

This girl has a very charming personality, looks good and dress sexy. While working as a helper she did not make much money. Most of that money went back to her home country. The extra money she made, as I understood it she used herself to eat, to live, and buy clothes. The funny thing was that she had no problem spending 1500 HKD on sexy underwear but spending 80 HKD on a meal was " crazy expensive."

Working Monday to Saturday, she did not have much free time. The salary was bad, really bad. She could make more money in one night in Wanchai than in a whole month working as a helper. The free time was spent with friends partying, shopping or being on " dates ". She felt like her life was going nowhere, the same kind of friends, the same kind of men, the same kind of life. Everyday I asked if she wanted to start a new life and quit this all for once but she just looked at me with hopeless eyes. " I need the money ". Her only option was to find real love, Mr right. To marry and to live in a foreign country. The dream many girls dream of, but to most are just a dream. I been living in Europe all my life and I do not like it but I did not want to crush her dream so I kept quiet.

We had a walk down the harbor and talked about other more happy things. She told me about her family back home and I shared some of my life. After this day we met up a few more times and who knows I might end up having a good friend for life.

Anyway, I really enjoy talking to her. She is very open about everything and allowed me to get a glimpse into a world that I had no idea about before I met her.

[QUOTE=Ikksman;1714775]I generally agree, but I have met DHers who illegally live out and they have 2 or more part-time jobs (often just cleaning for single people or childless couples). These girls do not necessarily work 10 to 12 hours per day, and may go out some nights if they feel the urge. And, of course they do not need to be home by 9:00pm!

Ikksman[/QUOTE]I wonder if you are discussing ladies who are here illegally (overstayed dh visa) or ladies who have applied for asylum. They often have part time jobs during the day and at night.

My post was referring to DH who have a legal visa.

As Johnny Rocket posted there are many different situations.

[QUOTE=Aiii2;1715189]Seems to be a lots of talk about DHs here in the HK forum. So here goes.
I have only met one DH in my life ever. I never had any thoughts about having sex with her but quite early she was very flirty. She wanted to hold hands in public, making jokes about sex etc. I knew where this was going.
Anyway, I really enjoy talking to her. She is very open about everything and allowed me to get a glimpse into a world that I had no idea about before I met her.[/QUOTE]Very interesting insight about DH. The behind the scenes about the life of what we can call a P4 PDH. It might be a pretty common situation showing also the internal conflicts these girls go through. From spending "lots of money" in lingerie (does she rate that as an investment?) to being super saver on food (which, for a girl theoretically finding hard to make ends meet, should be the priority). Life on the edge with poor concern of future as sooner or later she will find out that her shelf life will be over and she will be left to the daily struggle of the pure DH income, with no Mr Love in sight.

Seen also the lack of free time, during which she gets her main income, wasn't she "wasting" her time with you, aware you were in target either as a sponsor or as a possible future Mr Love?

[QUOTE=Aviator12;1714901]Filipinas in general have no consept of "agreed time to meet". They always show up late for a date. I really don't know why but I think it has something to do with the so called "Phillipine Time"; the clock has no indicators whatsoever! It might not be true for all, but I have experienced this on at least 10 dates with Filipine girls. And yes, they do loose their phones at an alarming rate. Both in Hong Kong and at home. Very strange indeed.[/QUOTE]Yes but I was in contact with that girl via e-mail too so there's really no excuse. She just disappeared. Ah well plenty of fish in the South China Sea.

[QUOTE=Ikksman;1712871]I have posted previously (more than once), how to find DHers during the week (such as at World Wide Plaza). But be aware most DHers need to get home by 8 or 9 pm, and their home may be one hour away in the New Territories (train then bus).

If only visiting HK for a few days mid-week it is best to use dating sites to get DHers who have free time that meets your schedule. Again, the methodology has been posted here previously.

Ikksman[/QUOTE]I'm less keen on World Wide House. Almost all the girls there are there with friends and it's harder to get them to leave their friends and come with you. I also have less balls to walk up to a group of girls than I do to walk up to a girl that's on her own.

It's also very crowded so it's harder to be discreet, and you are likely to be the only gwailo there and you get a lot of weird looks.

But if anyone has a successful technique they use for such situations at WWH or elsewhere please feel free to share. .

[QUOTE=Chantik;1715264]I wonder if you are discussing ladies who are here illegally (overstayed dh visa) or ladies who have applied for asylum. They often have part time jobs during the day and at night.
My post was referring to DH who have a legal visa.
As Johnny Rocket posted there are many different situations.[/QUOTE]I understood that you were referring to DHers who have legal visas, and yes, as JR says that are many different situations.

Most DHers that I have met over the years have been with families with children and work from 6:00 or 7:00 am to 10:00 or 11:00 pm. They could never go out at night even if they wanted to.

[QUOTE=JohnnyRocket;1715442]I'm less keen on World Wide House. {S N I P}
But if anyone has a successful technique they use for such situations at WWH or elsewhere please feel free to share. .[/QUOTE]I simply give a very slight smile to a girl, whether or not she is with friends or alone, and only approach those who respond positively in some way. If they are with friends, I often only get a mobile number (and chat with them later), but I have also found plenty of girls who have been alone. I think being crowded just increases one's chances of success.

I also approach DHers in the immediate vicinity of WWH. And not just at street level or in the MTR exits, but in the surrounding covered walkways connecting Chater House and Alexandra House etc.

Perhaps you might feel less pressure in some of the less crowded outlying areas where DHers meet. I do recommend Shatin New Town Plaza where I have met both Pinays and Indos. There are often girls who are simply waiting to meet another DH for some reason other than spending the rest of the day with them (such as repaying a loan. Haha).

Take a deep breathe and go for it. The rewards are worthwhile. I even have Pinay and Indo ex-freebies who I still chat to (on Wechat and Whatsapp), and they even introduce me to new friends. And I admit that I have helped a few financially who I knew were in genuine need (no sick carabao tho' - haha).

Ikksman

[QUOTE=BionicMan;1715425]Very interesting insight about DH. The behind the scenes about the life of what we can call a P4 PDH. It might be a pretty common situation showing also the internal conflicts these girls go through. From spending "lots of money" in lingerie (does she rate that as an investment?) to being super saver on food (which, for a girl theoretically finding hard to make ends meet, should be the priority). Life on the edge with poor concern of future as sooner or later she will find out that her shelf life will be over and she will be left to the daily struggle of the pure DH income, with no Mr Love in sight.

Seen also the lack of free time, during which she gets her main income, wasn't she "wasting" her time with you, aware you were in target either as a sponsor or as a possible future Mr Love?[/QUOTE]The lingerie part just made me laugh, she was dead serious about it. She usually send me pictures of her new sexy underwear and complains about how much it costs. But still feel a need to buy it rather than good food. LOL.

I think that she saw me as a potential "customer " in the beginning but then realized that our conversations actually had more depth in it than just sex. That's when I feel she start opening up more about her life. She still trying from time to time but more as a joke. Then she calls me boring because I do not respond to it. Now when I know about her life, I think she feel comfortable that she do not have to lie about anything while talking to me. I kind of feel the same way.

After the last time we met, (yes in my hotel room) she texted me and said. You really don't think I am sexy right? I asked why? - Because you do not get horny after seeing me in underwear. I told her that I could not do that to a friend but even if I wanted to I did not have much money anyway. She said, well I would give you for free stupid! Do you think I am a hooker?!

Ehhh, no. What can I say in that kind of situation? LOL. Then I just told her that I felt she was very sexy and beautiful but we better remain friends. To find a good man to take care of her bla bla bla.

Yes she is a strange one but always puts a smile in my face. .

[QUOTE=Ikksman;1715456]I understood that you were referring to DHers who have legal visas, and yes, as JR says that are many different situations.

Most DHers that I have met over the years have been with families with children and work from 6:00 or 7:00 am to 10:00 or 11:00 pm. They could never go out at night even if they wanted to.

I simply give a very slight smile to a girl, whether or not she is with friends or alone, and only approach those who respond positively in some way. If they are with friends, I often only get a mobile number (and chat with them later), but I have also found plenty of girls who have been alone. I think being crowded just increases one's chances of success.

I also approach DHers in the immediate vicinity of WWH. And not just at street level or in the MTR exits, but in the surrounding covered walkways connecting Chater House and Alexandra House etc.

Perhaps you might feel less pressure in some of the less crowded outlying areas where DHers meet. I do recommend Shatin New Town Plaza where I have met both Pinays and Indos. There are often girls who are simply waiting to meet another DH for some reason other than spending the rest of the day with them (such as repaying a loan. Haha).

Take a deep breathe and go for it. The rewards are worthwhile. I even have Pinay and Indo ex-freebies who I still chat to (on Wechat and Whatsapp), and they even introduce me to new friends. And I admit that I have helped a few financially who I knew were in genuine need (no sick carabao tho' - haha).

Ikksman[/QUOTE]I know you're right and I just need a little more balls.

About them introducing you to friends, I've had that happen. The Filipina who recently disappeared on me said she wanted to watch me fuck her friend. She said the friend had met some old white guy who lasted only 2 minutes and left her unsatisfied (Hopefully it wasn't one of you guys! Whereas I had been in the habit of giving this girl a solid hour (just of penetration, that's after dining at her why, that's right boys, there is some advantage to aging!) and she wanted her friend to have some too. Too bad I never got to meet the friend before the girl disappeared. Sigh.

Sexy underwear! - Indo ladies are competitive when it comes to clothes and the like. One has $4000 shoes and the next one will buy $5000 shoes and it continues on and on. Someof the Indo ladies wear expensive foot-wear.

[QUOTE=Chantik;1715719]Sexy underwear! - Indo ladies are competitive when it comes to clothes and the like. One has $4000 shoes and the next one will buy $5000 shoes and it continues on and on. Someof the Indo ladies wear expensive foot-wear.[/QUOTE]Not a very smart move when the kids need money for school. Luckily there are plenty with a sense for reality.

[QUOTE=JohnnyRocket;1714492]Question: Is it a common habit with Filipinas that they just stand you up when you schedule a date with them?

Anyway. Enjoy the holiday weekend, have fun and stay safe.[/QUOTE]Yes, it is true. Filipinos have a well earned reputation for being unreliable. They are usually late, keeping "Filipino Time" often change plans at the last minute and sometimes don't show at all. I find that even when I am with them, if we have a schedule to keep I am constantly pushing them to get going. If our meeting is at 3, there is no getting them out of the house till at least 3. No matter how far in advance you ask them to get ready. No matter how far our event is. As an aside, just try doing business in the Philippines. It requires the utmost flexibility and patience. After a few weeks there I just want to scream! But I keep going back. Which says something.

Of course not all. With new girls I have in the past practiced lining up 2-3 dates on a Saturday or Sunday, just to make sure that I was going to have a good day. Just line them up a few hours apart and in different locations. Then you are flexible. If the first one does show, you can put the second one off a few hours. It is unlikely all three will show, so you will have 1 or 2 good dates. The good news is that there are 150,000 of them. It takes practice, but good luck!

[QUOTE=Chantik;1715719]Sexy underwear! - Indo ladies are competitive when it comes to clothes and the like. One has $4000 shoes and the next one will buy $5000 shoes and it continues on and on. Someof the Indo ladies wear expensive foot-wear.[/QUOTE]Very competitive it seems. I noticed the expensive shoes and clothes but I do not get the point of the underwear. Not many people would see those anyway. I think her dress (very classy look) cost around 2000 HKD, shoes I have no idea but it looked expensive, MK watch (not sure if it was real or fake) etc. To most people it might seem stupid to waste money on those type of things but then I am guessing that is one of the few things in life that they enjoy.

I can remember when I was around 20 something years old, everything I wanted was a beautiful car. Wasted around 35 K on a set of nice rims, and on it went. Stupid, but I enjoyed it at the time until I realized I just lost around 200 K in depreciation.

Has anyone been to Sun Hot Sauna on Prat St recently? I was looking for it last week, but could only find a sauna with lots of neon signage saying Daily Spa, so I don't know if it's the same place. The elevator doors street entrance put me off from going in, as I don't want to be hanging around in public waiting for the elevator.

[QUOTE=Ddyer;1717738]Has anyone been to Sun Hot Sauna on Prat St recently? I was looking for it last week, but could only find a sauna with lots of neon signage saying Daily Spa, so I don't know if it's the same place. The elevator doors street entrance put me off from going in, as I don't want to be hanging around in public waiting for the elevator.[/QUOTE]The name of the street is prat [B]avenue[/B] and the name of the sauna is not daily spa, but daily sauna. What I have heard it is purely veggie now. Daily spa is the place with extras.

If you are willng to fork out 2000 plus tips, that is the place to go.

[URL]http://www.dailyspahk.com/[/URL]

Hello all,

I am new to this forum and want to thank everyone for sharing their experiences in Hong Kong. I will be in Hong Kong for a couple of days later this week. I would like to try a spa in the TST area that's less expensive that the daily spa. I looked on go 141 and saw a bunch of different spas. Can anyone suggest some of those to me. I was looking at dream spa because they say the have nuru. Also was looking at angel spa and the best spa. Any recommendations would be great. Thank you. I also read about 6 years worth of this thread and some of the other threads. I didn't see to much on spas besides the daily spa. Should I just stick to the massage on the 141 walk ups? I just wanted to try some new on my second trip to Hong Kong.

I got a good flight deal to go from L. A. To Hong Kong. I took a side trip to the P. I. , then ended the trip in Macau. Only had two day in Hong Kong so much of the time was doing the tourist stuff. With such little time to play, I had to decide between K pressure or a 141 girl.

I decided to visit a 141 girl. Gigi from the King Hing building. 10th floor A3. The building is easy to find, 52 - 54 Argyle st. Mong Kok. Near the mtr station. As I walk into the building, two guys are waiting for the elevator. Two other guys were waiting but then decided to walk up the stairs. I took the stairs also. Man, was it hot and humid climbing those stairs. By the time I got to the 10th floor, my tee shirt was soaked. I go to A3 but the wait sign was up. Figures, the other two guys were knocking on doors so I tried to see what the girls look liked when they answered the door. None to my liking. I'am thinking, maybe I should just head out to K Pressure. But then I remember, there was another girl with good reviews on the 10th floor. Her name is Carmen and she is in A5.

I ring the bell and a decent looking lady opens the door. I'am thinking early to mid 30's. She does have a little gut but I was all in, and had a great time. Once the door closes, she helps me undress and hangs my clothes on some hangars. Her room is pretty small. She then leads me to the shower, where she washes me everywhere. I really needed this shower. In the shower she gave me a preview BBBJ which felt great and my hands were roaming all over her body.

After the shower, I get on the bed waiting for her to finish up her shower. Once out of the shower, she gives me a good massage. Then while still facing down, she gives me a full body cat bath with plenty of rimming. After a while I DATY on her which turns into 69 and she gets very wet. From there we go to CG, then finish off in mish. The only thing that would have made this session better for me, more dfking. She did DFK, just not a lot.

After getting dressed, I asked her how much. She said $500. I think Gigi was $400 but what the heck, I had a good time with her. Paid and left with a smile, until I hit the hot and humid staircase. If interested, my trip continues in the P. I.

Finally had some time on my hands to do some mongering last week.

It has been a long time so I thought, what the heck we only live once, I will spend all the money I saved on some treat.

After long deliberations, I found an escort which I could book directly for out-call.

We had some email exchanges about the services a. S. o. Which all sounded swell and promising so I booked her for 3 K HKD, she did not really offer anal and BBBJ, but that was OK for me this time.

Long story short we met up in Victoria Hotel (still my favourite short term romp place).

She arrived and although she was of course not exactly the age advertised she was in good shape, very hot and VERY friendly, which totally works for me.

We chit chatted relaxed and without rush and proceeded to the deed. She turned out to be a light skinned Brazilian.

Wow, was I in for a treat. Absolutely the best P4 P I ever had. Total passion for 45 minutes non stop until we both collapsed sweating and exhausted. She 110% gave me the feeling she enjoyed this and wanted more! Wow.

Looks 8-9.

Face 8.

Body 9.

Service 10+.

Overall 9-10.

Would repeat. Absolutely if I win the mark 6 .

So the next day I settled for something cheaper.

Called some hotel booking Chinese from 141 site in Wan Chai.

Was directed to a small hotel and went upstairs to the room number they gave.

Of course I did not get the advertised girl, but they gave me a parade of 4 young Mainland Chinese who spoke 100% only Mandarin, not even Cantonese (I can speak very basic Canto).

I picked a really nice and friendly young and skinny girl.

Although the girl was very good looking and skinny this was the 100% opposite to my escort experience.

For these pro Chinese girls this is a business transaction!

You paid for it, so they will deliver the goods. Get on with it and she will give you some fake moans.

Really not much GFE involved.

PM me if you want to know the escort girls details.

BTW. The escort girl mentioned she worked for an agency before, but stopped because the advertise fake model pictures and she usually got into big arguments when she arrived, because she was not the girl the customer booked.

Ciao.

[QUOTE=Lucky88;1719920]Which all sounded swell and promising so I booked her for 3 K HKD, she did not really offer anal and BBBJ, but that was OK for me this time.
Long story short we met up in Victoria Hotel (still my favourite short term romp place).
Ciao.[/QUOTE]$3000 for 45 minutes in a short time hotel? WOW!

[QUOTE=Jackthelad2;1720005]$3000 for 45 minutes in a short time hotel? WOW![/QUOTE]Big swinging dicks wherever you look these days. Tomorrow they will ask 5000 as long as there is someone stupid enough to agree.

If she was a long time chat friend why didn't you arrange to meet her somewhere where you didn't have to drop a ton of money on ripoff drinks and bar fines? Speaking of not the smartest egg in the nest. The reason "Wanchai bars think they can have a long term business based on ripping off customers" is because of people like you.

[QUOTE=Jdbkk555;1720501]A long time chat friend. I broke my rule of not going into a Wanchai bar just to meet her. She is very nice looking. Firm to the touch, sweet personality, not the smartest egg in the nest. The damage was huge. Why Wanchai bars think they can have a long term business based on ripping of customers is beyond me. One round of drinks alone is more than a weeks worth of 141. Then a negotiated bar fine which gives the girl just 800-900 HKD for the whole night (she gets 300-400 for short time). It's nuts.

She reports Wanchai bars are very slow since the 7's tourney closed. With just 1 or 2 customers a week. It's not enough to cover her costs. Comparatively, this same girl walked home with over $25 k usd 5 years ago after a 6 month contract (that's 300-400 customers).

Very nice, not the sexiest thing, a bit stiff in bed. She reports that most bar girls are just the lay there type, lube is a requirement. I sent her packing by 9:00 the next morning. She's nice, but I'm not going to pay the huge bar fees.

Earlier that night, I visited Dragon Club. I'd heard so much about it, I wanted to see what the famous Wanchai BJ bar was like. For those of you that like a good BJ bar, stick with Thailand. Just 4 nit so great dancers there when I arrived (she said there were usually 6 girls working). With the beer, they take you over to one of two booths up front by the door. There's a mirror so while enjoying your beer and blow, you can see the girls dance. The blow itself is very staged. Enough to get you going, then time for a cheers and drink with the girl. Another short go and another drink. Then time for another round. It's strange to be negotiating with a mamasan while the girl is hard at work with your little John. But I can see how that bar makes it when the others are starving. Overall, I found the BJ rather poor. And staged to drive more lady drinks only made me upset. So after a few drinks, and more than 5 days of 141, I left. The girl said she would not let me cum in the bar. That was reserved for out all. I've seen reports to the contrary.[/QUOTE]

Okay I'm a frequent visitor to HK, I must be as I have a HKIA frequent visitor card.

This post is part whine, part asking for suggestions. I've been punting in HK for several years and unf I find the value for money going down. Used to get quit regular good punts from 141 walk ups and 20-something year old girls at K-Pressure. Now I've had several ordinary / rushed / unenthusiastic 141 punts in a row and K-Pressure, while still good service, is full of 30-early 40's MILFs. As an FYI K-Pressure is about $40 cheaper if you turn up before 1 pm. I've had some truly spectacular experiences at Shanghai / Portland St, but they were at least 8 years ago.

I usually try out the lower price range of the market (not just in HK) as I've found in the past paying more doesn't guarantee anything except having even less money left afterwards.

May try one of the Shanghai / Portland Street places with PRC girls next or still haven't been to 37 Dundas.

Anybody know prices of the street pickups around Temple St Night Market or where you end up afterwards? Any other ideas?

I just got into Hong Kong this afternoon. Got to the hotel and showered and went to the Foremost Building in Jordan with a list. Half of the people on the list were busy and 2 of the was not working. 1 was booked all day. Might have to check her out if she's that popular. The other half on the list I didn't like. So I went to the 15th floor and knocked on doors that was available. That took a good 15 minutes if not more. So went back on the 141 site from my phone and called Lu Lu and she said she will be free in 15 minutes. OK I said so I waited for the time and went to the 4th floor room 3 D. It was 580 for massage and while package. She was tall about 5' 7" and skinny and pretty face so I glad I took the chance and booked her on the phone. She gave an excellent hard massage after I showered by myself first. On the flip it was a cover BJ, no kissing on the lips, no DATY which a lot of 141 walk ups I experienced won't offer. We did cowboy, doggie and mish when I came. Cleaned and showered and chatted. She is from Canada. I not sure where I am going to go tomorrow. I would like to hit at least two places. I enjoyed the massage from Lu Lu. Sucks there was no DATY.

I'm typing on my mobile phone when posting on this forum so I notice a few spelling mistakes. Also after I left Lu Lu at the Foremost Building, walking down Portland street back to my hotel I saw 3 street ladies in front of a small park on Portland street between waterloo and pitts street. They were all over the age of 30 for sure might even pushing for 40.2 of them look very nice and pretty. Didn't ask to see how much because I need I need some rest after Lu Lu and traveling and flying for over 20 hours. Also on my to Foremost Building while walking to Jordan road on Shanghai street, there were many older ladies maybe mamasans, looks to be in their 40's, trying to get people into their massage places upstairs. I try to dress like a Hong Kong citizen but most still targeted me. I'm not sure about going up to those places.

[QUOTE=WorldHop;1721119]back on the 141 site from my phone and called Lu Lu and she said she will be free in 15 minutes. OK I said so I waited for the time and went to the 4th floor room 3 D. It was 580 for massage and while package. She was tall about 5' 7" and skinny and pretty face so I glad I took the chance and booked her on the phone. She gave an excellent hard massage after I showered by myself first. On the flip it was a cover BJ, no kissing on the lips, no DATY which a lot of 141 walk ups I experienced won't offer. We did cowboy, doggie and mish when I came. Cleaned and showered and chatted. She is from Canada. [/QUOTE]Nice write up, WorldHop. I'm going to Jordan this evening so may see if I can bjork Lu Lu too!

[QUOTE=WorldHop;1721119]I just got into Hong Kong this afternoon. Got to the hotel and showered and went to the Foremost Building in Jordan with a list. Half of the people on the list were busy and 2 of the was not working. 1 was booked all day. Might have to check her out if she's that popular. The other half on the list I didn't like. So I went to the 15th floor and knocked on doors that was available. That took a good 15 minutes if not more. So went back on the 141 site from my phone and called Lu Lu and she said she will be free in 15 minutes. OK I said so I waited for the time and went to the 4th floor room 3 D. It was 580 for massage and while package. She was tall about 5' 7" and skinny and pretty face so I glad I took the chance and booked her on the phone. She gave an excellent hard massage after I showered by myself first. On the flip it was a cover BJ, no kissing on the lips, no DATY which a lot of 141 walk ups I experienced won't offer. We did cowboy, doggie and mish when I came. Cleaned and showered and chatted. She is from Canada. I not sure where I am going to go tomorrow. I would like to hit at least two places. I enjoyed the massage from Lu Lu. Sucks there was no DATY.[/QUOTE]"She is from Canada" must have been one of your spelling mistakes. I am very skeptical that there are any Canadian WGs in HK, at least not at low-end places like 141's.

[QUOTE=JohnnyRocket;1721999]"She is from Canada" must have been one of your spelling mistakes. I am very skeptical that there are any Canadian WGs in HK, at least not at low-end places like 141's.[/QUOTE]Lots of Chinese live in Canada now don't they, Vancouver especially, quite possible this I would think. If we are talking about a Chinese Canadian. Perhaps a lot also have Canada passport and live in HK for the time being also.

After spending few days in Singapore with a girl I met in Bali last November I had a Saturday night in HK before my return home Sunday, msg decided to venture in our beloved wanchai.

As we know Saturday night is not the best night for good deals as they are more guys than girls or about the same ratio. Went first to Makati as an always I didn't last there long as the music was extremely loud and no good quality available. Also stopped in Neptune 3 and left in 5 minutes as the pressure to buy drinks is very intense from everyone.

The next 4 hours I was walking back and forward between HK cafe and escape, with a nice legit Thai massage in between to rest my legs.

Escape is a nice bar with medium to low pressure to buy drinks, but that night the girls were very expensive, The Asians wanted at least 2000 HK, a gir from Spain wanted 3000 HK for one hour, and the Colombians 2500 for one hour. Sure you could negotiate and probably lower some the price but for me that expensive is a mood killer.

I like HK cafe as there also not that much pressure to buy drinks, met some girls but nothing special, it was 4 am and had to make a decision, I saw an indo girl dressed nice and we negotiate 200 USA as a gift. In the room very nice performance but very disappointed on her body, Its amazing how clothing can hiide a bad body. However, most importantly good performance and friendly, actually wanted to stay with me but for the night but I usually don't like to sleep with girls that meet on the street.

Also in my between walkings I spoke with a desperate African woman outside escape that was willing to go for 1000 hk but Iim just don't trust African girls, also spoke with phil girls at the bars and all afte 2 min of conversation wanted drinks, which annoys me. If I knew that I will end with them it will be ok but most of these girls just want to dry you up with drinks.

So my conclusion is that Saturday night in wanchai is really difficult to find good deals but if you have money to throw away in drinks or don't mind overpaying for girls you can end up with a quality girl.

[QUOTE=DirtyHog;1722074]Lots of Chinese live in Canada now don't they, Vancouver especially, quite possible this I would think. If we are talking about a Chinese Canadian. Perhaps a lot also have Canada passport and live in HK for the time being also.[/QUOTE]Yes there is a reason they call it Hongcouver. But if they have obtained a Canadian passport or grew up in Canada they have many more options open to them to make good money aside from being a WG. And if they want to be a WG they could do it in Canada where they can easily charge 4-6 times as much as a 141 walkup, work in better conditions and have (mostly) nicer customers and be protected by the law. Even if they want to be a WG in HK they have better options. 141 walkups are almost all mainlanders and a few assorted other third world countries mixed in here and there. Maybe some of the expensive 141 hotel girls, though even there the Asians are mainlanders or occasionally Korean or Japanese, and the whites are from the former Soviet bloc.

I'm not saying it's impossible I'm saying I'm extremely skeptical that there is a Canadian working in a 141 walkup.

No difference in prices on a Saturday. Ladies will charge what the gent will pay. Mon or Sat prices will be the same.

Can say that the prices you quoted seem to be accurate. The days of getting a Wanchai Bar lady for 1000 all night are long gone. And I stress a Wanchai bar lady.

Agree with Johnny's post - Never heard of a Canadian/HK Lady working in 141 place for 500 a pop. As Johnny says there are so many options in Canada.

[QUOTE=WorldHop;1719237]Hello all,

I am new to this forum and want to thank everyone for sharing their experiences in Hong Kong. I will be in Hong Kong for a couple of days later this week. I would like to try a spa in the TST area that's less expensive that the daily spa. I looked on go 141 and saw a bunch of different spas. Can anyone suggest some of those to me. I was looking at dream spa because they say the have nuru. Also was looking at angel spa and the best spa. Any recommendations would be great. Thank you. I also read about 6 years worth of this thread and some of the other threads. I didn't see to much on spas besides the daily spa. Should I just stick to the massage on the 141 walk ups? I just wanted to try some new on my second trip to Hong Kong.[/QUOTE]I am not sure there is much of a spa experience in HK. I suggest you head over to Macau where there are lots.

[QUOTE=Tiger888;1720008]Big swinging dicks wherever you look these days. Tomorrow they will ask 5000 as long as there is someone stupid enough to agree.[/QUOTE]Hi Tiger,

Not sure were you are going with this?

Keep in mind other people have other priorities. For me time to have fun is VERY limited!

So when I get the rare chance I make 100% sure it counts!

If you have a way to get very good sex for 1,000 HKD with guranteed results and this can be.

Wrapped up in 90 minutes - [U][B]please share this with the forum[/B][/U] - because I have not found a way to do that in Hong Kong yet.

[QUOTE=Chantik;1722516]No difference in prices on a Saturday. Ladies will charge what the gent will pay. Mon or Sat prices will be the same.

Can say that the prices you quoted seem to be accurate. The days of getting a Wanchai Bar lady for 1000 all night are long gone. And I stress a Wanchai bar lady.

Agree with Johnny's post - Never heard of a Canadian/HK Lady working in 141 place for 500 a pop. As Johnny says there are so many options in Canada.[/QUOTE]Chantik you are the expert, but in January was in wanchai on a Tuesday and got a very pretty indo for the night for 1000 HK, and she was very happy. Even the Colombians went down to 1400 HK, I belive that during the week there are less guys drinking and therefore less drinking money for the girls and more opportunities for better deals and service.

I finally got back to the US. On my second day in Hong Kong, I finally go to hook up with Gi Gi. Some of you know who this wonderful Indonesian beauty is. She had just finished her time of the month thing. So I been texting her and was afraid I would not be able to hook up with her this time because when I booked my plane ticket several months ago, I was not planning her having her period during my trip. Lucky it started for her 5 days before I arrived. She told me she would go back to work on Saturday, so I booked her early. I picked up her some Starbucks from around the corner because last time she told me she loves caramel machiato with extra caramel on top. She greeted me with a kiss and nice hug. She just colored her hair a nice shade of red and she told me she really loved it and I told her I loved it too. She was in a lovely red lace bra with matching thong which made her look hotter. We undress and both just cuddle up on the bed and was talking about different stuff and playing with each other. Finally we go into the shower and she cleans me and gives me one of those BJ with warm water in her mouth. I was in heaven. I get out of the shower so she can finish showering herself. On the bed she just attacks me by jumping on me and tells me she so horny because she hadn't had sex in 5 days. So we cuddle and I play with her tits and ass while she rubs my cock. Next she starts with a BJ and that feels so good because she can take the whole thing in her mouth. After a while I had to stop her so I don't cum in her mouth. She puts on a condom. I'm going to have to bring my own. The ones she has are small and tight. So she like missionary and I pound away while sucking on her nipples. She is getting really loud and wild. I'm trying not to cum but she is grabbing my ass and squeezing it tight and I told you going to make me cum if you don't stop that. She laughs and squeeze harder and tells me she wants me to cum in her mouth. I not going to argue with her there. So she digs her nail really good, and I said that's it and pull out and she takes off the condom and starts sucking and I'm cumming and she is sucking so good that my legs are actually starting to cramp. I was surprised I was cramping because that never happened to me before and I just let her keep sucking. Finally she stops and ask if I was OK. I had a hard time speaking so I just nodded. We lay there together and talk about her life my life. I told her if she came to the US, she would make a killing. People would really pay to see her. She laughs and said she would love to visit but not to work. I give her 500 but her fee is 450 now due to the increase of rent where she works. It was 400 before. So guys don't complain about me giving her more and saying people like me raising up the price. She would not raise up her price because how good and popular she is, she would only raise her prices when her rent go up. She keeps her price low so people that don't make a lot of money can see her. I think she is a sweet and lovely person. I also came back that night to see her again. She told me she has not left the apartment since I saw her earlier that day. She said she was hungry and I don't mind bringing her food. I got her some sushi from a place that's not too far. We shower and repeated just about everything we did earlier again except I came while she was bent over on her bed. Man that was nice. I paid her and we hug and kissed. She is located in the King Hing Building. I didn't want to leave Hong Kong the next morning, but I will be back.

I'm sorry guy if this is so long. You can yell at me, I don't care.

I wasn't sure if I put the correct build in my review. I wonder how many other people have had Gi Gi before.

[QUOTE=JohnnyRocket;1721999]"She is from Canada" must have been one of your spelling mistakes. I am very skeptical that there are any Canadian WGs in HK, at least not at low-end places like 141's.[/QUOTE]Hi JR,

Well that's what Lu Lu told me. I would visit her again just for the massage. It did wonders on me. If you are in Hong Kong, you should visit her and see if what she says is true. I do make spelling mistakes from time to time as well.

[QUOTE=Kaishang;1721394]Nice write up, WorldHop. I'm going to Jordan this evening so may see if I can bjork Lu Lu too![/QUOTE]Cheers and report back even if you didn't see Lu Lu.

[QUOTE=Jdbkk555;1722637]Anticipating an editorial comment from the HK master, she is a bar girl from SB bar. She lost her virginity there a few months back. Sweet, tight, and loves to fuck. 21 Yo pinay.[/QUOTE]Could you be so kind as to translate SF and SB? Thanks.

[QUOTE=WorldHop;1722770]Hi JR,

Well that's what Lu Lu told me. I would visit her again just for the massage. It did wonders on me. If you are in Hong Kong, you should visit her and see if what she says is true. I do make spelling mistakes from time to time as well.[/QUOTE]Not a problem whatsoever! Reporting what a girl says here is perfectly fine and can be useful. All contributions appreciated!

[QUOTE=WorldHop;1722764]I finally got back to the US. On my second day in Hong Kong, I finally go to hook up with Gi Gi. Some of you know who this wonderful Indonesian beauty is. She had just finished her time of the month thing. So I been texting her and was afraid I would not be able to hook up with her this time because when I booked my plane ticket several months ago, I was not planning her having her period during my trip. Lucky it started for her 5 days before I arrived. She told me she would go back to work on Saturday, so I booked her early. I picked up her some Starbucks from around the corner because last time she told me she loves caramel machiato with extra caramel on top. She greeted me with a kiss and nice hug. She just colored her hair a nice shade of red and she told me she really loved it and I told her I loved it too. She was in a lovely red lace bra with matching thong which made her look hotter. We undress and both just cuddle up on the bed and was talking about different stuff and playing with each other. Finally we go into the shower and she cleans me and gives me one of those BJ with warm water in her mouth. I was in heaven. I get out of the shower so she can finish showering herself. On the bed she just attacks me by jumping on me and tells me she so horny because she hadn't had sex in 5 days. So we cuddle and I play with her tits and ass while she rubs my cock. Next she starts with a BJ and that feels so good because she can take the whole thing in her mouth. After a while I had to stop her so I don't cum in her mouth. She puts on a condom. I'm going to have to bring my own. The ones she has are small and tight. So she like missionary and I pound away while sucking on her nipples. She is getting really loud and wild. I'm trying not to cum but she is grabbing my ass and squeezing it tight and I told you going to make me cum if you don't stop that. She laughs and squeeze harder and tells me she wants me to cum in her mouth. I not going to argue with her there. So she digs her nail really good, and I said that's it and pull out and she takes off the condom and starts sucking and I'm cumming and she is sucking so good that my legs are actually starting to cramp. I was surprised I was cramping because that never happened to me before and I just let her keep sucking. Finally she stops and ask if I was OK. I had a hard time speaking so I just nodded. We lay there together and talk about her life my life. I told her if she came to the US, she would make a killing. People would really pay to see her. She laughs and said she would love to visit but not to work. I give her 500 but her fee is 450 now due to the increase of rent where she works. It was 400 before. So guys don't complain about me giving her more and saying people like me raising up the price. She would not raise up her price because how good and popular she is, she would only raise her prices when her rent go up. She keeps her price low so people that don't make a lot of money can see her. I think she is a sweet and lovely person. I also came back that night to see her again. She told me she has not left the apartment since I saw her earlier that day. She said she was hungry and I don't mind bringing her food. I got her some sushi from a place that's not too far. We shower and repeated just about everything we did earlier again except I came while she was bent over on her bed. Man that was nice. I paid her and we hug and kissed. She is located in the King Hing Building. I didn't want to leave Hong Kong the next morning, but I will be back.

I'm sorry guy if this is so long. You can yell at me, I don't care.

I wasn't sure if I put the correct build in my review. I wonder how many other people have had Gi Gi before.[/QUOTE]I've seen her and she is fantastic but the number I have for her doesn't seem to work anymore. You say King Hing Bldg, is she on 10/ F? I see her on 141's web site but she didn't have dyed red hair the last time I saw her so just want to confirm it is the same girl. Thanks.

[QUOTE=Kaishang;1721065]Anybody know prices of the street pickups around Temple St Night Market or where you end up afterwards? Any other ideas?[/QUOTE]Temple street street walkers from 100-250 HKD for short time. Very small and dirty rooms. Street walkers can also be found around Portland street. The rooms are even worse there.

[QUOTE=Calvito;1722739]Chantik you are the expert, but in January was in wanchai on a Tuesday and got a very pretty indo for the night for 1000 HK, and she was very happy. Even the Colombians went down to 1400 HK, I belive that during the week there are less guys drinking and therefore less drinking money for the girls and more opportunities for better deals and service.[/QUOTE]I noticed that you quoted the time 4 am to 5 am. For me this is not an overnighter. And many a lady agrees to do an overnighter and runs out after one pop I do overnighters all the time and that is for 12 hrs. And I referred to Wanchai bar girls in my post. Not Indonesian or Phillipine DH who may have a day or two off work.

[QUOTE=JohnnyRocket;1722979]I've seen her and she is fantastic but the number I have for her doesn't seem to work anymore. You say King Hing Bldg, is she on 10/ F? I see her on 141's web site but she didn't have dyed red hair the last time I saw her so just want to confirm it is the same girl. Thanks.[/QUOTE]This is the address on her profile: Flat A3, 10/ F, King Hing Bldg. , 52 - 54 Argyle St. , Mong Kok.

[URL]http://go141.com/en/1564-MK-141Walk-ups-GiGi.html[/URL]

I saw Sharlyn, the Filipina who advertises on CL. Her number is in her ad. She's staying in a cheap but decent hotel in Wan Chai. Quoted me 2 k, I said 1 k and she quickly agreed. Nice girl, pleasant conversationalist, pretty, nice tits, adorable and fairly tight pussy with a little tuft of coarse Filipina hair (love it! Allowed DATY but not DFK. The sex was not enthusiastic and she rushed me, in a nice way by saying if it lasts too long she gets dry (so how about investing in a little lube? But rushed nonetheless. Didn't rush at all before or after, just during. Would not repeat due to lack of enthusiasm and rushing. But a genuinely nice girl.

[QUOTE=JohnnyRocket;1723270]I saw Sharlyn, the Filipina who advertises on CL. Her number is in her ad. She's staying in a cheap but decent hotel in Wan Chai. Quoted me 2 k, I said 1 k and she quickly agreed. Nice girl, pleasant conversationalist, pretty, nice tits, adorable and fairly tight pussy with a little tuft of coarse Filipina hair (love it! Allowed DATY but not DFK. The sex was not enthusiastic and she rushed me, in a nice way by saying if it lasts too long she gets dry (so how about investing in a little lube? But rushed nonetheless. Didn't rush at all before or after, just during. Would not repeat due to lack of enthusiasm and rushing. But a genuinely nice girl.[/QUOTE]I wonder if this is the same lady who was reviewed on 141. Poster answered add for3 k, bargained her down to 1 K, and then suddenly her friend joined in for no extra charge.

Headed into HK in late June and could use some advice. I am from the US and spent a decent amount of time as a hobbies here and in Europe. But it seems like this is a whole new ball game. Been reading through these posts, but not sure what my best options are.

I am looking for younger, high quality, Asian spinners. Wouldn't mind an overnight experience or double girl action if possible. Don't want to get ripped off, but don't mind paying for a quality experience. I will be in town for 4 nights with a possible night or 2 in Macau (also a hobby option).

Please let me know if there is a better part of town to stay in or avoid, and how to pack as much fun into this week as possible. All advice is welcome and I will report back post trip.

Thanks

I knew I will be in Hong Kong soon, so I contacted a few DIA (date in Asia, website) girls.

Usually with one or two out of 10 it will be nice chatting, which fast can be getting to naughty chatting.

These girls need work 24 h, can only go out on Sundays, they feel so boring at night, that's why they like chatting.

If you nice to them (and don't talk about sex! They will be nice too, and start naughty chat by their own.

Philippine girls are usually horny, so just wait, they will start usually haha.

She had a Monday off (changed from Sunday to Monday, because I was there that day), we met early morning at hotel lobby.

Soon went to my room and not even 5 min later we landed on the bed. She knew how to do it, really hot girl.

After first round, we went out for some sightseeing and lunch, these girls love that.

Afternoon back to hotel, for round no 2 and no 3.

She liked it and I enjoyed it a lot.

At 6 pm she had to go back home, I brought her to taxi which I paid for her.

Great day for a start in Hong Kong.

Here 2 fotos of her, no clear face of course.

After my day with the manila girl, I needed to do some business.

The evening I went to 141 girl in Fuji building.

Knocked a few doors and suddenly in 17th floor there opened one girl.

She was hot, no question I had to go in, whatever money she wanted, but she wanted 500 hkd only.

We had nice small talk, shower together followed by some massage and great sex.

After shower again, we continued talking, she wanted go home, so she dressed in her street clothe.

Sexy but still normal to go out. After 1 hour we left the house together.

One week later I was back in Hong Kong, and my first visit was Fuji building, to see that girl again.

She was there, we had a nice 1 hour session, she was really happy to see me again.

After we had small talk again and I invited her for dinner. She was surprised and after a short hesitation she agreed.

She took me to a small local spicy sichuan restaurant nearby, we had nice dinner and good talking, 250 hkd for that dinner only.

After dinner she had to go back to Fuji building and I went for a beer. 2 hours later she messaged me, that she will finish work.

We met again and I invited her to my room for relax, some drink, TV etc.

To my surprise she agreed, so up we went. Bought some drinks in 7-11.

That was a great night, relaxed on bed, followed later by some real GF sex, and a nice night sleep in my arms.

We slept long until 11 am. Than we slowly got up and she had to go, and I had to check out anyway.

That was an amazing adventure in Hong Kong, which I did not expect at all.

BTW, I stayed in Wharney hotel Wanchai, nice location, good 4 star hotel.

Best feature is a mobile phone in room for use, free call in hkg and to many countries and free internet in Hong Kong.

All included in the room rate.

Sorry no fotos of that girl.

She is from Hong Kong and doesn't want any foto, even she is not in 141 etc websites.

Aint you Lucky! LOL.

Nice FR buddy.

Thanks for the update on the hotel.

Cheers,

FunkySexy.

[QUOTE=ThomasJefferson;1723872]The evening I went to 141 girl in Fuji building.
She was hot, no question I had to go in, whatever money she wanted, but she wanted 500 hkd only.
We met again and I invited her to my room for relax, some drink, TV etc.
To my surprise she agreed, so up we went. Bought some drinks in 7-11.
That was a great night, relaxed on bed, followed later by some real GF sex, and a nice night sleep in my arms.
[/QUOTE]

Thomas Jefferson, excellent work on the DH and the 141 girl. That's getting shit done right there.

Nice work on that whole founding America thing too.

I often find myself in North Point so I visited the Southern Building you can find on the 141 site. At the end of a hallway on 1/ F there is a room that seems to be reserved for Thai girls. They only stay 2 weeks at a time so the 141 folks must have a constant supply of them coming from somewhere because there's always a Thai girl in there. Anyway the name on the door is Yoko but she said she was name Kie or something like that. Large fake tits that once she got undressed I could tell were poorly done. Oh well. Room was also dirty with empty food containers. Is it really that hard to keep it basically tidy? I know this is cheap 141 but how can the girls themselves stand it when it's messy.

Standard shower, BBBJ, then condom goes on and I start fucking her in doggy but I couldn't get her into the right position somehow, so after about a minute I told her lay down on the bed. I pull out, she lays down, I look down and my cock is covered in blood. Always a little scary but hey that happens, so I pointed it out to her and she apologized profusely. Immediately I showered it all off and she said "you come in my mouth ok?" I said ok. So I come back out of the shower and she didn't even bother to put on underwear she just squatted down to suck me off. I said don't you think you should put on a pad? But either she didn't understand or didn't care. Okaaaaaay. So she BBBJ me again and when I'm about to blow she takes it out and jerks me off. Uh no I thought I was coming in your mouth, and her sign lists a price for that. But instead it was hand finish although I managed to get one shot onto her chin. Pretty disappointing. And when she stood back up there was some blood that had dripped out of her onto the floor. Then she finally figured out she should probably put on a pad.

After showering and dressing she asked for the price listed on her sign for fuck plus "blowjob no condom. " Well I fucked her for about 1 minute and didn't even finish in her mouth but I was not going to be an asshole about it. So I paid which was 620 but only had 2 500's and then it turned out she didn't have change. She honestly didn't have it as I saw her look in her purse and a couple of different drawers, so she wasn't just scamming me out of extra money. I said never mind keep it, I took what change she had which meant I ended up paying 760.

And the coup de grace. As I'm walking out, in among the food containers atop the fridge I see two dead cockroaches.

Win some, lose some.

Last night in Hong Kong.

Went to some of the Wanchai bars. Weekday and not too much business there. Getting a bit full after midnight.

Saw some sweet girls, one wanted 2000 short time and did not go down even on dollar, wtf.

She flirted with many men, but still after midnight she was alone, and later I saw her jump in a taxi. Alone! Haha, no business for that price.

Nice to see that nobody paid that much. I saw a nice girl, but when I wanted to approach her, she was gone. Shit.

Went out for some food, had a beer in the corner open air bar. Talked to some other men. Just enjoyed my evening.

When it was time to go to bed, I took another round to see, if any girl was interested to join and BINGO there was that nice girl from before on the street.

Obviously wanted to go home. I smiled and she quickly came over, she was from Indonesia, nice look, friendly talk.

I offered her 700 for short time and we agreed to 800 hkd. Up to the hotel and we had nice shower together first. Than on to the bed.

She was a volcano in bed, specially after some nice DATY. Great fuck. Shower again and she did not dress, instead she went back to bed.

OK good for me, so I joined her. She asked me if I could do 2nd time because she was still horny (her words). I am a gentleman of course.

And cannot refuse a girl's wish. That was a great 2nd round. Total we spend around 3 hours in my room.

That were my Hong Kong adventures this time, I addition I had been to Macau and Taiwan, more in that threats.

Attached some fotos of the Indonesia girl. She should be around in the bars somewhere.

[QUOTE=AussieDoug;1722896]Could you be so kind as to translate SF and SB? Thanks.[/QUOTE]If velvet curtain bars, would be.

SF = San Francisco.

SB = Show Biz.

Both on Lockhart Road.

Cheers.

[QUOTE=Jdbkk555;1722637]Anticipating an editorial comment from the HK master, she is a bar girl from SB bar. She lost her virginity there a few months back. Sweet, tight, and loves to fuck. 21 Yo pinay.[/QUOTE]Reckon, I'd be removing these pics if they are REAL. Doubt that the management of a Go Go bar would be unhappy with a customer publicly showing nude pics of one of their employees. And they know about these type of forums. We are not discussing an independent escort.

[QUOTE=ThomasJefferson;1723872]After my day with the manila girl, I needed to do some business.

The evening I went to 141 girl in Fuji building.

Knocked a few doors and suddenly in 17th floor there opened one girl.

She was hot, no question I had to go in, whatever money she wanted, but she wanted 500 hkd only.

We had nice small talk, shower together followed by some massage and great sex.

After shower again, we continued talking, she wanted go home, so she dressed in her street clothe.

Sexy but still normal to go out. After 1 hour we left the house together.

One week later I was back in Hong Kong, and my first visit was Fuji building, to see that girl again.

She was there, we had a nice 1 hour session, she was really happy to see me again.

After we had small talk again and I invited her for dinner. She was surprised and after a short hesitation she agreed.

She took me to a small local spicy sichuan restaurant nearby, we had nice dinner and good talking, 250 hkd for that dinner only.

After dinner she had to go back to Fuji building and I went for a beer. 2 hours later she messaged me, that she will finish work.

We met again and I invited her to my room for relax, some drink, TV etc.

To my surprise she agreed, so up we went. Bought some drinks in 7-11.

That was a great night, relaxed on bed, followed later by some real GF sex, and a nice night sleep in my arms.

We slept long until 11 am. Than we slowly got up and she had to go, and I had to check out anyway.

That was an amazing adventure in Hong Kong, which I did not expect at all.

BTW, I stayed in Wharney hotel Wanchai, nice location, good 4 star hotel.

Best feature is a mobile phone in room for use, free call in hkg and to many countries and free internet in Hong Kong.

All included in the room rate.

Sorry no fotos of that girl.

She is from Hong Kong and doesn't want any foto, even she is not in 141 etc websites.[/QUOTE]So you post a pic of a Phillipine DH (who is not a f / t wl) but refuse to post a pic of a HK girl who is a WL. And pics should be in the picture gallery thread.

Ha Ha Ha. I know this Indo girl. Will have to ask how how horny she is next time I bump into her.

A few times to HK but never really did 141 and only did the bar scene once (slim pickings last time I was there, and I'm not super into Pinays or Indos. Usually save my money for Macau). I'm on HK Island so I look around Wan Chai and went to 105 Queens Road. Walked around 3, 4, 5th floors. Most were busy. I decided to wait a few minutes, and Isabella freed up. She has a cute anime look to her, especially when she wears glasses. Tits are fake, and not the best job in the world but not bad, and generally slim. I think she only eats oranges because there were oranges all over the place, including one in the stairwell. Says she is mixed Chinese and Eastern Russian, and speaks some Canto, Russian and English as well as native Mandarin.

While the room was tiny, the shower was tiny, things were generally tidy and clean enough. I felt like this was a step above BBS in China.

After shower, we lay down and she gets straight to business chatting and playing with the goods. I flip her around and go for DATY, and she resists at first, but gives in willingly and has an O. Then we get to CBJ and then the main attraction. Good 20-30 minutes session, for a total time of 45-50 minutes. For $500 HKD it's a nice way to wind down, but nothing like Macau spa experience. Maybe I'll have to find a really hot one and try what ThomasJefferson did and pull her to the hotel. .

[QUOTE=JohnnyRocket;1722979]I've seen her and she is fantastic but the number I have for her doesn't seem to work anymore. You say King Hing Bldg, is she on 10/ F? I see her on 141's web site but she didn't have dyed red hair the last time I saw her so just want to confirm it is the same girl. Thanks.[/QUOTE]Hi JR,

Christian G got the correct info. My modem when down so I wasn't able to go online for a week. I thought it was the internet company but later found out it was the modem. Also do you live in Hong Kong? I won't be back to there til early September. Airfare is really expensive in the summer time. When I was walking to East Mong Kok subway station from the Mong Kok station on the foot bridge, I notice a lot of women sitting in groups on the side. It was a Saturday. Are they DH's? Anyway keep up the great reports.

Hi guys, visiting HK in the first week of June. Is there any high end bar like Brix in Singapore where you can pickup model quality chicks at a price?

Would greatly appreciate any feedback via PM.

Thanks.

Ash.

[QUOTE=ClitLover2012;1725202]Hi guys, visiting HK in the first week of June. Is there any high end bar like Brix in Singapore where you can pickup model quality chicks at a price?



Ash.[/QUOTE]Try Escape.

Hi seniors.

Newbie in HK here.

Appreciate some classy contacts at a decent price.

Looking forward to couple of good nights.

Anyone know of any girls that do CIM?

[QUOTE=ThomKatt;1726547]Anyone know of any girls that do CIM?[/QUOTE]Gigi in Mong Kok who has been discussed in the last few pages does. Any of the 141 girls from SE Asia usually do but YMMV. I believe Chantik does, not going to speak for her though. .

[QUOTE=Johnn16;1726538]Hi seniors.

Newbie in HK here.

Appreciate some classy contacts at a decent price.

Looking forward to couple of good nights.[/QUOTE]The days of cheap fun are over. Everywhere in Asia is expensive now.

Perhaps Philippines or Indonesia still got cheap hookers, but nowhere in China and certainly not in HK.

How to get in contact with you Chantik? Where can I get your number?

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I was in shenzhen for a job, and decided to head to Hong Kong for a few days. Unfortunately I didn't have time to check out gigi. I was in the causebay area to eat at a 1 star michelin place, din tai fung, a shanghainese dim sum (it was pretty good), so I decided to check out the phoenix apartments. It's located on a pretty crowded street, but pretty nondescript. Anyways, I make my way up and check out each floor. I should have checked the 141 site first, I assumed it was going to be like the fuji building. But the girls are only on floors 2-5 I believe. Not a lot of options. The building is pretty wide, so you have to do a bit of walking to get from one side to the other to look at what's on tap. A lot of the girls post their real (maybe photoshopped, but not blurred) photos on the outside doors and walls. Most of the girls have advertisements on the 141.

I wasn't happy with the options, but many of the girls were available. There's a local girl, Fi Fi and next to her, a former nurse named lydia, that advertised CIM. I might come back here another time. I decided to go over to the fuji building for better and more options.

My last time here, I wanted to try a hk girl. But I was told that there were no hk girls at k-pressure by a girl that I wasnt not interested in. She might have been lying or telling the truth. And the girl that I ended up going with might have been lying to make the money. So, just in case, I wanted to find another local girl. I've seen a few at the fuji building, so I head over to there. This time, the same number of hk girls were available once again, and some of the same exact girls that I remember seeing are still here 3 months later.

The problem with hk girls, is that hk is such an affluent place and has high purchasing power, that it would be really rare that someone would need to turn tricks to make a living. It's looked down upon and with many job opportunities, you wouldn't need to sell your body. It's the opposite in mainland China, little opportunities and very low wages, turning tricks is a better option. So the hk girls who are WGs, aren't exactly the best looking or have the best bodies compared to their mainland counterparts.

I went up and down the fuji building probably 4 times, even walking all the way up at one point, last time I thought the girls were only on floors 8-22, i stopped because there were no providers on floor 7. Turns out it's all of the floors, still none on floor 7 though. It was super hot, humid, muggy, was raining before I got there, and I was exhausted and soaked in rain and sweat. The other two hk girls weren't available, but I found one on the 8th floor. Her name is Ki Ki, apparently pronounced "kay kay". She spoke very little english and an okay amount of mandarin, we conversed in cantonese. She's 28 and wanted 500. She wasnt the best looking, she had a cute chubby face, with thick pouty pink lips. Her body was on the thick and chunky side (has a belly), big real breasts, and an average behind. Her personality was warm, welcoming, and bubbly.

We take a shower, which I needed badly. And then she has me lay down on the bed and proceeded to work both of my nipples for a while. Then she does a laying down side CBJ (no access to her vag or bum), and spend a good amount of time on it. Then I get on top in mish, working her breasts with my mouth, then I enter. We're aboard the pound train, destination: pleasantville. She has her eyes closed the whole time (I hate this), moaning with each thrust. She's caressing my body, while I kiss her face and neck. After a bit, I wanted to switch to doggy. While I grab my tool for insertion, it's covered in cream, she got really wet from the mish. I pound her in doggy, and she's enjoying this much better. I pull her up so I can massage her breasts, but she's too short and I'm too tall. The position is uncomfortable, so we switch back to mish. I pound away, and when I was about to cum, I drill her like I was mining for gold, and she takes it like a champ. I blast everything I had, everything I've saved up for the past few days into her, and won't stop until even drip is out. Exhausted, She cleans me up and takes me into the shower, and I stand in the shower needing to hold onto the wall to keep myself from fainting. She washes me, and I get dressed and leave.

There's still a lot left I want to do in hk, but with limited time, this was just going to be a quick give and go trip. I'll be back pretty soon

I've written FRs here before about Daily Spa, and seen other FRs, and it's mostly been positive.

But be aware. They just implemented a "stealth" price increase.

Incall used to be HK $2,000/90 minutes. Cunningly, they haven't changed the price shown. But the web site now says HK $2,000/75 minutes. I guess if you're keen to get through the massage to the action at the end, this won't make much difference for you.

Hi Pals,

I am a young 30 yr old Indian guy visiting HK next month. Though I have been RTFF to get a lot of insight from a P4 P perspective. I would like to know if women have any bias for skin colour in HK. I have faced one such incident sometime back with a girl in Europe. Have had amazing experience in Bangkok and Pattaya though but was just wondering if any of you have seen such incident or could enlighten me.

I would be very keen to meet any seniors out in HK during this trip as well.

Thanks.

AngryCock.

If you have had good experiences in Thailand, then you should be fine in HK. However, you should be aware already that in parts of Asia there are places that don't view individuals that look like they could be from the Indian subcontinent in a positive way. It's typically due to the reputation they have as being cheap, not treating the girls well, and hygiene issues as well. Unfortunately when there is a bit of a trend with complaints towards a certain skin color, there is a good chance that discrimination occurs. In HK it can happen even if you look clean and are more westernized. Don't take it personally, there are so many girls that you will be able to find one that wants to service you and has no problem at all. This happens everywhere, North America, South America, Europe, or Asia etc. Many times the thinking is you are the customer and the girl needs to impress you, but clearly how you make an impression towards a girl that is willing to let you stick it in her, matters.

[QUOTE=AngryCock;1731592]Hi Pals,

I am a young 30 yr old Indian guy visiting HK next month. Though I have been RTFF to get a lot of insight from a P4 P perspective. I would like to know if women have any bias for skin colour in HK. I have faced one such incident sometime back with a girl in Europe. Have had amazing experience in Bangkok and Pattaya though but was just wondering if any of you have seen such incident or could enlighten me.

I would be very keen to meet any seniors out in HK during this trip as well.

Thanks.

AngryCock.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=AngryCock;1731592]Hi Pals,

I am a young 30 yr old Indian guy visiting HK next month. Though I have been RTFF to get a lot of insight from a P4 P perspective. I would like to know if women have any bias for skin colour in HK. .[/QUOTE]I would also add that you might find you are restricted as to what bars in Wan Chai you can get into, assuming you are going to try the bar scene.

It would be easier if you were with someone of Western origin. I have seen guys from your part of the world refused admission, mostly for the reasons explained in the previous report.

[QUOTE=Jackthelad2;1731653]I would also add that you might find you are restricted as to what bars in Wan Chai you can get into, assuming you are going to try the bar scene.

It would be easier if you were with someone of Western origin. I have seen guys from your part of the world refused admission, mostly for the reasons explained in the previous report.[/QUOTE]Jack is right, unfortunately, AC.

Some of the discos will ask you for an entrance fee, which will not be asked of Europeans. The reason for this is that punters from the sub-continent are regarded by some venue owners as being there only to stand around and watch rather than buy drinks.

As for the girls, you will always be able to find company as long as you are prepared to pay the going rate. You might get a few knock backs, but all of us do. Some girls have told me that they steer clear of punters from the sub-continent because such punters are "hungry", meaning that after buying a girl a drink they start feeling them up regardless of how the girl likes this. So, remain a gentleman and you will be fine.

Enjoy your time in HK.

Cheers.

The US Navy were out in numbers all over the weekend which changes the Wan Chai dynamic considerably I think. Friday hit my usual Wan Chai spots which are Amazonia, Joe Banana's and HK Café. Also stopped in for one drink only at New Makati and Escape. All were in one way or another disappointing. Quality well down I would say (I am 5- times a year visitor) in all locations. Prices seem to show no bounds! Amazonia has tended to be fertile hunting for me but place seems to have lost its edge. The band more of a side show than a focus as before and sparse pickings to be had. Joe Bananas' always been a bit hit and miss for ladies and this time clear miss. HK Café had a few 7-8 Thai ladies but they are serious pro's and present a poor value proposition IMHO while at HK prices. Escape and New Makati are both places I visit under sufferance. New Makati is way too loud and thumping for me and Escape is filled with ladies who put themselves in the silly price bracket again IMHO. So pretty disappointing and not difficult to see why most discussion these days in HK concern Dundas and the like..

Sunday hit Bar 109. For anyone unfamiliar the place is taken over by Indo DH's. Not sure what time it all starts but I arrived at 11 am and place was rocking. I think if you are prepared to stand quite a few drinks this is the closest thing you will get to an orgy with your clothes on. Really no very good looking ones but plenty of 6-7's and all very enthusiastic and almost anything go's. Makes for a unique and surreal experience I think. But my opinion is that if you are a lingerer or spectator then you will be roundly ignored so can be an expensive few hours. Majority of these ladies are up for ST take away if the price is right I believe. Finally, given the size of this place and the atmosphere.there is a very high chance that a drink will be spilled on you. I have heard others comment that this whole scene is a bit hit and miss and I am sure that is correct. Also it's not a scene I would attend regularly more like a once or twice a year itch that needs scratching.

Thanks Guys. I was anticipating the suggestions mentioned in the reports. Yes, I do intend to explore the bar scene as well as the 141 walkups in Wan Chai. I believe I have a good easy going relationship in past by treating women with due respect. Hopefully, I shall not have a terrible experience given that I plan to travel HK frequently as I establish my business there.

Cheers.

AngryCock.

[QUOTE=AngryCock;1731980]I plan to travel HK frequently.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=UncleGoober2;1731791]Some of the discos will ask you for an entrance fee, which will not be asked of Europeans. The reason for this is that punters from the sub-continent are regarded by some venue owners as being there only to stand around and watch rather than buy drinks.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Jackthelad2;1731653]easier if you were with someone of Western origin.[/QUOTE]IMHO, it is a business. If you flash money (be it an entrance fee or reputation for buying drinks / shots) you will get in to the discos and girls. I have seen Western guys get asked to leave or buy a drink.

The young lads who usually wear uniforms are often denied entry or charged a fee too. You are not alone. Some girls actually do not go with these young lads because they don't want to spend a couple hours or a whole night with their feet up in the air or on all fours. Oorah... Your best bet are the semipros and work through their group if you are a frequent visitor. Some are really into marathon sessions.

The local paper reported today another suspected case where an Indo lady was killed by male (s) from the Asian subcontinent. I am unsure what impact this will have on AC's quest.

[QUOTE=MrPards;1731917]

Sunday hit Bar 109. For anyone unfamiliar the place is taken over by Indo DH's. Not sure what time it all starts but I arrived at 11 am and place was rocking. I think if you are prepared to stand quite a few drinks this is the closest thing you will get to an orgy with your clothes on. Really no very good looking ones but plenty of 6-7's and all very enthusiastic and almost anything go's. Makes for a unique and surreal experience I think. But my opinion is that if you are a lingerer or spectator then you will be roundly ignored so can be an expensive few hours. Majority of these ladies are up for ST take away if the price is right I believe. Finally, given the size of this place and the atmosphere.there is a very high chance that a drink will be spilled on you. I have heard others comment that this whole scene is a bit hit and miss and I am sure that is correct. .[/QUOTE]Last trip I stopped by 109 about 1 pm. One slim normal Indon lady sort of latched onto me. We had a drink, hovered around each others bodoes for a bit, the hand in hand went back to my hotel No money was discussed, was just nice and natural and sweet. She stayed for the 2 days of my business trip. 109. Recommended. Or maybe I was just the right guy, right time place.

Last night was the first night out in Wanchai for a LONG time and it showed. Started off in Escape about midnight and it was filling rapidly. I wasn't in the mood to dally, so approached this tall shapely lass that was for sure not the usual fare. As it turns out my inclination was correct. It seems the "Northern Sisters" have discovered HK. I had visions of some superb evenings in a Mongolian lady's company in Beijing and so asked her to give me a "quote" for a ST romp. She replied $3000, I thought she missed heard me so I repeated "short time" and she replied $3000. I told her I didn't want to insult her if that was her price, but that she had just priced herself right out of my evening's plans. She asked me to counter and we did the dance and settled on 1200, with a tip for "extra good service" ie a trip to Greece which was to be determined once she was able to ascertain the size of the manhood to be inserted into her. I wasn't worried.

I then told her that I would only pay upon her leaving, she said no, I said how about 1/2 upfront, the rest on delivery. She said not again, I shook her hand said thanks for your time and the conversation and walked away to her bewildered expression. Find a REALLY cute Thai morsel and bought her a drink and was ready to close the deal when some half drunk AH came up and put his arms around her and asked her to dance. She was trying to be diplomatic and tell him she was talking to someone, but he didn't get the hint. There was a bit of back and forth between the two of them and by that time I had lost interest. She had done nothing to bring this on, unless you count looking really cute and moving to the music in a most alluring way, but it wasn't worth the hassle factor to me.

Went to HKC and walked in, say a 28-32 ish Cambodian, great smile and nice curves. Talked, agreed on the price which included the extras I was in the mood for, she was happy, I was happy. Off to the hotel, everything I wanted and a lot more. I didn't overpay, but did add a little for good service and taxi back. Got the digits in case I ever go to Cambodia or she is in HK again.

All in all, Escape had more than a few stunners, but the pricing (at least the asking price) has gotten silly. At least the girls in the other clubs start at a realistic asking price!

I expect the Mongolian would have been delicious.

Living in PH. First time in HK. ! am a bit fucked up from a accident so just looking, staying in Jordan. No playing on this trip ,but this place is Awesome. PH is the shit for cheap and good pussy, can't beat it. Pinas fuck like crazy and you can pretty much do what you want when you want. But fuck HK is Awesome, Civilization! Fucking nice. PH is the shit hole of SE ASIA. It is more money here but it is so many times nicer and cleaner here. Can't wait to return.

You guys living here are in a pretty awesome place!

I have an overnight stopover, staying near the airport. Has anyone used an escort from escortgirlshongkong. I am considering this option as time is short. Any info would be greatly appreciated.

So I'd just like some advice for my first trip to Hong Kong. I'm not attracted to Chinese girls so I'll mostly be looking for Filipinas. Preferably Filipinas who aren't full on working girls. What's the best way to find them and ones who will be GFE and do bareback? Craigslist? I'm reasonably good looking and young so I'd be willing to try for freebies but I want a sure thing.

Finally got a chance to visit HK. Due to work commitments, did not have a chance to do a lot during my time there but below are some of my observations if it does help people on here.

- Mobile apps are filled with part timers and DH looking to meet and take it to a next level. I must admit I did not get into it much earlier than my visit to build the rapport to line up a few alternatives. I only tried a day before my visit (app starting with B) and still managed to talk to this real cute PH, big eyes, tall for PH (5'7) and nice rack. Turns out she left her work as DH and is trying to do her own thing. I was very impressed with her aspiration and met her for a drink. She was shy but we got along well and spent 1. 5 hrs together. She seemed the kind who wanted something a bit more committed so we didn't really take it any further but it was interesting to get to know their lives and what they face.

- I happen to visit Jordan area for some other reasons and noticed K pressure right away from the descriptions here on the site. Was tempted but had work to complete For those who have not been, its very easy to find.

- I was in LKF area on the weekend nights late and saw plenty of nicely dressed girls hanging around. The impression I got was that they maybe WG or part timers as they didn't seem the type waiting for someone and were making eye contact with passerby including me. Any comments from experienced HK mongers on this?

Overall, HK is buzzing and there is plenty of opportunity to have fun. For those who are going there or planning to, give it a go. The quality I saw was pretty good.

[QUOTE=Anuurd;1734430]So I'd just like some advice for my first trip to Hong Kong. I'm not attracted to Chinese girls so I'll mostly be looking for Filipinas. Preferably Filipinas who aren't full on working girls. What's the best way to find them and ones who will be GFE and do bareback? Craigslist? I'm reasonably good looking and young so I'd be willing to try for freebies but I want a sure thing.[/QUOTE]Lots of info on this forum about what you want but be aware that Filipinas may be willing to do bareback but it will cost you a wedding certificate.

Teltel.

[QUOTE=Anuurd;1734430]. Preferably Filipinas who aren't full on working girls. What's the best way to find them and ones who will be GFE and do bareback? Craigslist? I'm reasonably good looking and young so I'd be willing to try for freebies but I want a sure thing.[/QUOTE]Some of us are older, (but of course still looking like a cross between Brad and George) and we still hit a high number of freebies.

Maybe your a tad less experienced with Filipinas at the moment. But they really don't have "hes young so I will give it to him " " hes old so he will have to pay " thing. They will generally like you for who you are, not the date on birth cert. There are many professionals so everyone pays for them, and many sweet young things who like a nice time with a nice guy.

I wouldn't look on CL for freebies. You may be better to check dating type applications but no guarantees.

Could you elaborate more about the mobile apps and dating sites. DIA is not available in my country. Will use it when I am there. Please PM me your insights. It could help me during my visit.

Cheers.

AngryCock.

[QUOTE=VikPunter;1734709]Finally got a chance to visit HK. Due to work commitments, did not have a chance to do a lot during my time there but below are some of my observations if it does help people on here.

- Mobile apps are filled with part timers and DH looking to meet and take it to a next level. I must admit I did not get into it much earlier than my visit to build the rapport to line up a few alternatives. I only tried a day before my visit (app starting with B) and still managed to talk to this real cute PH, big eyes, tall for PH (5'7) and nice rack. Turns out she left her work as DH and is trying to do her own thing. I was very impressed with her aspiration and met her for a drink. She was shy but we got along well and spent 1. 5 hrs together. She seemed the kind who wanted something a bit more committed so we didn't really take it any further but it was interesting to get to know their lives and what they face.

- I happen to visit Jordan area for some other reasons and noticed K pressure right away from the descriptions here on the site. Was tempted but had work to complete For those who have not been, its very easy to find.

- I was in LKF area on the weekend nights late and saw plenty of nicely dressed girls hanging around. The impression I got was that they maybe WG or part timers as they didn't seem the type waiting for someone and were making eye contact with passerby including me. Any comments from experienced HK mongers on this?

Overall, HK is buzzing and there is plenty of opportunity to have fun. For those who are going there or planning to, give it a go. The quality I saw was pretty good.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SkyRyder;1733109]Last night was the first night out in Wanchai for a LONG time and it showed. Started off in Escape about midnight and it was filling rapidly. I wasn't in the mood to dally, so approached this tall shapely lass that was for sure not the usual fare. As it turns out my inclination was correct. It seems the "Northern Sisters" have discovered HK. I had visions of some superb evenings in a Mongolian lady's company in Beijing and so asked her to give me a "quote" for a ST romp. She replied $3000, I thought she missed heard me so I repeated "short time" and she replied $3000. I told her I didn't want to insult her if that was her price, but that she had just priced herself right out of my evening's plans. She asked me to counter and we did the dance and settled on 1200, with a tip for "extra good service" ie a trip to Greece which was to be determined once she was able to ascertain the size of the manhood to be inserted into her. I wasn't worried.

I then told her that I would only pay upon her leaving, she said no, I said how about 1/2 upfront, the rest on delivery. She said not again, I shook her hand said thanks for your time and the conversation and walked away to her bewildered expression. Find a REALLY cute Thai morsel and bought her a drink and was ready to close the deal when some half drunk AH came up and put his arms around her and asked her to dance. She was trying to be diplomatic and tell him she was talking to someone, but he didn't get the hint. There was a bit of back and forth between the two of them and by that time I had lost interest. She had done nothing to bring this on, unless you count looking really cute and moving to the music in a most alluring way, but it wasn't worth the hassle factor to me.

Went to HKC and walked in, say a 28-32 ish Cambodian, great smile and nice curves. Talked, agreed on the price which included the extras I was in the mood for, she was happy, I was happy. Off to the hotel, everything I wanted and a lot more. I didn't overpay, but did add a little for good service and taxi back. Got the digits in case I ever go to Cambodia or she is in HK again.

All in all, Escape had more than a few stunners, but the pricing (at least the asking price) has gotten silly. At least the girls in the other clubs start at a realistic asking price!

I expect the Mongolian would have been delicious.[/QUOTE]Speaking of Mongolian women, I had one in Shanghai years ago that would have put all these Wangchai girls to shame. I wanted to marry her but she wanted 100 k US LOL. I passed.

PC out.

[QUOTE=DessieO2;1733752]I have an overnight stopover, staying near the airport. Has anyone used an escort from escortgirlshongkong. I am considering this option as time is short. Any info would be greatly appreciated.[/QUOTE]Dessie,

I am in HK next week and was looking at their site as well as hk-glamourgirls. What was your experience? Thanks.

[QUOTE=Chantik;1734934]I wouldn't look on CL for freebies. You may be better to check dating type applications but no guarantees.[/QUOTE]Freebies are available on CL but the success rate is low even for legit ads. These girls get hundreds of replies.

You can also try posting your own CL ad and let the girls come to you. Again the hit rate is low, but with some patience it does work.

[QUOTE=ThomasJefferson;1723849]I knew I will be in Hong Kong soon, so I contacted a few DIA (date in Asia, website) girls.

Usually with one or two out of 10 it will be nice chatting, which fast can be getting to naughty chatting.

These girls need work 24 h, can only go out on Sundays, they feel so boring at night, that's why they like chatting.

If you nice to them (and don't talk about sex! They will be nice too, and start naughty chat by their own.

Philippine girls are usually horny, so just wait, they will start usually haha.

She had a Monday off (changed from Sunday to Monday, because I was there that day), we met early morning at hotel lobby.

Soon went to my room and not even 5 min later we landed on the bed. She knew how to do it, really hot girl.

After first round, we went out for some sightseeing and lunch, these girls love that.

Afternoon back to hotel, for round no 2 and no 3.

She liked it and I enjoyed it a lot.

At 6 pm she had to go back home, I brought her to taxi which I paid for her.

Great day for a start in Hong Kong.

Here 2 fotos of her, no clear face of course.[/QUOTE]So. This girl meets you after some chats. Bangs you minute 1 or so. Yes you feed her go out on a GFE date. Bang her more times. How many here believe it's right to give her some work money? I do. She didn't bang you for lunch and taxi ride paid to go home. I have a bud who does this. He claims he won't pay a girl for sex. But he travels to sex- poor countries. Goes on "dates" buys some food and drink. Bangs the girl and sends her on for minimal taxi fare. I can't be the only one who thinks that is not kosher. Comments?

[QUOTE=SportMongr;1738516]So. This girl meets you after some chats. Bangs you minute 1 or so. Yes you feed her go out on a GFE date. Bang her more times. How many here believe it's right to give her some work money? I do. She didn't bang you for lunch and taxi ride paid to go home. I have a bud who does this. He claims he won't pay a girl for sex. But he travels to sex- poor countries. Goes on "dates" buys some food and drink. Bangs the girl and sends her on for minimal taxi fare. I can't be the only one who thinks that is not kosher. Comments?[/QUOTE]Believe it or not, I spent a lot of money for working girls around the world, much in China and Hong Kong and Macau, but I love to have the hunt for a freebie too.

I still in regular contact with that freebie girl, she is not a working girl at all and it would have insulted her if I offered to give some money.

I know these girls are poor, there are around 500.000 Philippine poor girls in Hong Kong. That girl just wanted to have a nice day and with some luck you can get in their panties.

She still thanks me from time to time for the nice day I gave her and hopes to repeat it soon.

That doesn't stop me to go to some bars the very same evening and pick up another girl who I paid 1000 for short time, and next day to 141 building to pay another girl.

I try to treat girls nice, so even the 141 girl went out with me for dinner, and we still have contact over wechat.

Oh, and I met some DIA girls, with whom I had no chance to get into her panties at all, still I enjoyed a nice day with them.

The most important thing is, don't tell any lies to that freebie girls, e. G. That you love them or make them hope to get married etc.

Be honest with them. I always say that I am searching a friend for my free time in Hong Kong and even tell them that I am married.

[QUOTE=ThomasJefferson;1738568]Believe it or not, I spent a lot of money for working girls around the world, much in China and Hong Kong and Macau, but I love to have the hunt for a freebie too.

I still in regular contact with that freebie girl, she is not a working girl at all and it would have insulted her if I offered to give some money.

I know these girls are poor, there are around 500.000 Philippine poor girls in Hong Kong. That girl just wanted to have a nice day and with some luck you can get in their panties.

She still thanks me from time to time for the nice day I gave her and hopes to repeat it soon.

That doesn't stop me to go to some bars the very same evening and pick up another girl who I paid 1000 for short time, and next day to 141 building to pay another girl.

I try to treat girls nice, so even the 141 girl went out with me for dinner, and we still have contact over wechat.

Oh, and I met some DIA girls, with whom I had no chance to get into her panties at all, still I enjoyed a nice day with them.

The most important thing is, don't tell any lies to that freebie girls, e. G. That you love them or make them hope to get married etc.

Be honest with them. I always say that I am searching a friend for my free time in Hong Kong and even tell them that I am married.[/QUOTE]That's cool, yes I agree. Not all DIA ladies are working girls etc. I seem to get the impression that most are not but still have this 1 foot in the door. Maybe a bit in denial idea about 1 nighter dates. Def not cool to lie. Sadly not too many like you. The guys I know usually have no intention of keeping in touch.

My first night in HK. Wanchai bar scene. Wow? Amazed at the scene. Not in a good way. Not at all sure what the myth about fun to be had in HK. I would like to shed light on the myth. If you ever visited thailand or pilipines. . you will be very dissapointed with HK. Mamasan from AC. Tried to sell me a $40 lady drink and told me that I could choose a girl for around 1 HR. $150 and up to 450 all night usa. Oh the girls to choose 6-7 cute pinay. The 1 that would only be worth the consideration. Was on the phone etc. With attitude like. I want my sister's to eat. I'm ok to sit back. And make you beg for a premium. Africans on the street. Prob want insane rates as well. Not my thing. Wow! And discos. Filled with sausage. And a few pro's in the crowd. Many. Drunk foreigners dressed up in 95 f heat acting as if they are the ceo of google. Going to be a slow tourist visit for me. Unless a taxi driver could point me to building 141. I guess that's the st spot. For reasonable $. Any directions. Or hours of operation would be appreciated. Hopefully night 2 more excitement.

[QUOTE=SportMongr;1739216]My first night in HK. Wanchai bar scene. Wow? Amazed at the scene. Not in a good way. Not at all sure what the myth about fun to be had in HK. I would like to shed light on the myth. If you ever visited thailand or pilipines. . you will be very dissapointed with HK. Mamasan from AC. Tried to sell me a $40 lady drink and told me that I could choose a girl for around 1 HR. $150 and up to 450 all night usa. Oh the girls to choose 6-7 cute pinay. The 1 that would only be worth the consideration. Was on the phone etc. With attitude like. I want my sister's to eat. I'm ok to sit back. And make you beg for a premium. Africans on the street. Prob want insane rates as well. Not my thing. Wow! And discos. Filled with sausage. And a few pro's in the crowd. Many. Drunk foreigners dressed up in 95 f heat acting as if they are the ceo of google. Going to be a slow tourist visit for me. Unless a taxi driver could point me to building 141. I guess that's the st spot. For reasonable $. Any directions. Or hours of operation would be appreciated. Hopefully night 2 more excitement.[/QUOTE]Sport,

I do not know were you are from, but I find your report quite funny. My first experience as a monger was in HK and it still have this special feeling about the city. Later on I have been to Philliphines and Thailand and other destinations, so I understand your point if view. Hong Kong is definitely not a cheap option anymore but the nightlife here is beyond comparison. There is a special "vibe" about it and you can only appreciate it if you are a part of it. I have been lucky to make friends with a lot of working girls, mainly from the Philippines. I know their attitudes and they way they look at the types like us. In my experience, most of them are quite laid back and takes what comes. We are an asset to them as customers! They are mostly nice and they do not ask much. Most girls from from Phillippines and Indonesia are from poor conditions. It does not mean they are bad in any way. They just try their best to survive. But these day HK has mostly older girls. A few years ago, the scene had 18-25 years old girls in bars like Dusk Till Dawn and Amazonia, but now that is rare. I still love Wan Chai because of the special blend of party atmosphere for both Asians and Europeans. If you only looking for sex; try the walk ups (all over town). It will give you a "release" but a boring experience. Why not try an inflatable doll instead!! It is almost the same. Wan Chai will provide you the vibrancy you need. Wake up and enjoy your life!

[QUOTE=SportMongr;1739216]My first night in HK. Wanchai bar scene. Wow? Amazed at the scene. Not in a good way. Not at all sure what the myth about fun to be had in HK. {S N I P}[/QUOTE]You are obviously a guy who does not worry about doing research before visiting a place. Did you really try to board a flight to China without researching visa requirements?? Wow!!

However, if you want to enjoy HK, you need to RTFF. A bit of reading can pay dividends! Wanchai has different types of venues, and it is not the only mongering destination in HK, or even HKI. And yes, world class cities like HK are of course different to poverty stricken AC or Pattaya.

Ikks

[QUOTE=Ikksman;1739295]You are obviously a guy who does not worry about doing research before visiting a place. Did you really try to board a flight to China without enquiring about visa requirements?? Wow!!

However, if you want to enjoy HK, you need to RTFF. A bit of research can pay dividends! And Wanchai is not the only mongering destination in HK, or even HKI.

Ikksman.[/QUOTE]If he really finds the mystical 141 building, there fun is guaranteed.

[QUOTE=Ikksman;1739295]You are obviously a guy who does not worry about doing research before visiting a place. Did you really try to board a flight to China without researching visa requirements?? Wow!!

However, if you want to enjoy HK, you need to RTFF. A bit of reading can pay dividends! Wanchai has different types of venues, and it is not the only mongering destination in HK, or even HKI. And yes, world class cities like HK are of course different to poverty stricken AC or Pattaya.

Ikks[/QUOTE]Yes. Brother. I still can't believe that China error LOL. Wow. I'm still amazed at the stupidity of that. Cost me an extra $500. I'm traveling with a friend and thought he had that info covered. He has a chinese roommate (giving him advice) for christ sake! Spilled milk. I have been doing research all morning. Joined the 141 and after hours reading etc. Still not sure about things. I'm on vacay and very busy during work time.

Hong Kong is an interesting place from last night. I get the vibe. I live in LA it's similar. Prob more so to NY. And yes. The quick brothel fun. Is similar to a blow up doll. But I have learned to appreciate that venue. After years of the club scene and all nighter route. To me why travel to Asia for that $150-$500 when I can stay in la or go to vegas. I come to Asia for the value. Obviously was not expecting that in HK. Just was surprised at the offerings here. So my views are from someone with a short stay. Not having time to uncover the local road less traveled by. God bless you guys that have this place wired. This seems like the asian Rio de Jan. The variety is nice.

Hey guys,

I'm an experienced monger, but this is my first time in HK. I was jazzed about having fun here, but right after I arrived (don't laugh) I had a little medical problem flair up. While it's entirely cosmetic, it's damping my enthusiasm for interacting with the ladies. I'm hoping it will get better in the next few days.

Meanwhile, I have nobody to get a beer with, I'm happy to be a wingman if someone needs one. Just PM me.

I'm staying in Kowloon. I'll probably go up to this Jordan area tonight, since it's not too far from my home base.

[QUOTE=HeadGames;1739416]Hey guys,

I'm an experienced monger, but this is my first time in HK. I was jazzed about having fun here, but right after I arrived (don't laugh) I had a little medical problem flair up. While it's entirely cosmetic, it's damping my enthusiasm for interacting with the ladies. I'm hoping it will get better in the next few days.

Meanwhile, I have nobody to get a beer with, I'm happy to be a wingman if someone needs one. Just PM me.

I'm staying in Kowloon. I'll probably go up to this Jordan area tonight, since it's not too far from my home base.[/QUOTE]1st) medical issue: I'm responding because I just had a similar situation. Last night while walking miles in 98 f humid heat I got a rash around my belt line. It looks bad. Was worried a bit. But it's cosmetic and the ladies are well skilled at telling the difference. My advice. Don't worry! They need the work as well. And as long as your not overly concerned or worried they won't be. I would not address it unless they do and then give them the honest truth they want your $.

2nd) newbie must for a 1st trip to HK! Check out the walk ups. I googled fugi building location after a full morning of research. Sad I have 3 days in Hk and 1/2 a day spent researching. When you can just google the F building and go!

I arrive. Take elevator to top there are 21 floors. 3 other Asian dudes jump in small tiny elevator with no AC. Now I'm sweating my ass off. Just what I want to do before a romp. The get out the lift and there is like 5 doors on each floor. Some have lights on,some dark, some with signs " I am currently getting dicked" so.

1st door level 20. I had singing and music so I knock. Door opens and a smoking hot white girl blond hair in a bathing suit opens. I was shocked. Was expecting Asian persuasion. Due to my research I heard the White Russians were extra. I kindly said wow,but I'm looking for Chinese food. Ni head down a floor.

Now the Asians in the elevator are on my floor knocking on doors as well. It reminds me of when I was a kid during a Halloween candy hunt, I want to say " trick or treat!. Give me something good to eat! Only they are wearing the costumes. I ditch the 2 man group competing with my candy hunt. After all they are my competition. And I can tell they are trying to jump in front of my doors. And floors as we make are way down. I'm Skip a floor to get ahead. Uh oh More Asian dudes. I notice they just knock. Door opens. They look and walk away. Not sure why? Most these girls are smoking hot I at least like to say "Hi. What's on the menu". Sometimes this doesn't work. Door no. 2 girl doesn't want to talk. In or out? I say bye. Door 3. Smoking out Korean looks no girl. Say's Hi. 600. Ouch! I was trying to make this a bargain. Adios. Door 3 another korean looking lady but this time late 20's early 30's she seems friendly. Says 600 45 min. I said too much. She wants an offer. I said 300? I get the no thank you and door to my face. I was going low to elicit a 400 450 offer.

So Asian dudes all around knocking on doors and playing ding dong ditch. Also hovering behind as I knock and talk.

Get to 11th floor A1. Girl opens up with nice smile and French maid costume. Beautiful white skin and face looks like an anime character. Looks Chinese. Who know's she doesn't speak English. Just laughs at my questions "what is your name, where are you from?" Answers none of them with a nice vibe. But says 480. Well I take the bait. I am here for the experience not to play knock on every door. I get in and she takes on an erotic vibe. Starts to un dress me. Feels on my soaking wet back and abs and is not repulsed by the sweat. Onto her showering me. I get a chance to relax. Get out and start the play. Upset a bit because I smell a tinge of smoke on her lips. But I guess non- smokers are rare in this profession. She lets me play suck on titles feel on ass. She has a hairy muff like in those Japanese porns. Like a black troll doll is growing out from between her legs. It was hot! I like variety and the shaved Bush is cool but gets old. Before I get a chance to DATY she must have thrown 1/2 a tube of KY on as my hands slipped right off her snatch! Dam there goes my clam chowder meal. I was not about to gargle KY. So she throws me back takes a bit of control and starts licking my nipples. I start wondering if she will jump when she see's this rash right on my belt line above my crank as she moves down. She doesn't. Moves to suck real well. Licks balls. But not very long. It's ok because I was at full salute and any more would have compromised the moment. She jumps on top and her vagina is nice. Not tight as a 21 yr. Old newbie but not full blown potatoe salad. Just right. She's real into it. Kissing on top. Flip her to missionary where I can easily unload. She starts screaming and I can tell she wants me to finish. The only downer about these types of operations. But no I. Getting my $ worth. Doggy is my favorite and she has this cute tiny but curvy lower body. Not a spinner. But just 2 nice ass handle to grab onto. In my opinion much better then the spinners. You get more of a smack from the back. Finish after looking at her juiced up snatch fro. The back. And mirrors to see her face at the same time. Whhhooooooooaaaaaa. Too bad I couldn't rest and hit it again 20 minutes. Later I could have with her performance and talent.

When finished I ask her. Will you be here tomorrow? Thinking maybe I get an even better experience the 2nd time around. In my experience this is usually the case. But she at least acts like she doesn't understand me. I pull out my phone show her a calendar and she points it out that she is here until next Thursday. But not goi g to work Sunday. Agh. But then think probably many others here I. The building. I commented that she speaks English and that she is just pretending not to speak to me. And she laughs and I think in her eyes 90% that she does and just doesn't want to speak English. To customers. It's to her advantage as most of you vets understand.

As I do the math in my room 500/7 is 70. Wow. I had my math wrong I thought it was around 50 going in. It was a cool experience. Definitely recommend it for anyone visiting HK at least once. But at that rate I do not think I will be going back soon. I have Thailand, Cambodia and Vietnam, philipines all next on the stopping grounds in the next month. And my 70 will be better used else where. But dam that chick was Hot! Can't find that in t land or PI. Actually maybe she was Vietnamese for all I know. She did have the milk skin and dark Bush. Now to think of it.

Anyway. Pressure relieved. Someone mentioned. It's like banging a blow up doll. Well I beg to differ. Correct there is not a 2nd and 3rd. And talks etc. But for (350-500 American $) not sure that is necessary when this can be had for the 300- to tourist rate 480-500 HK dollar rate.

That's quite a story there! I googled Fuji building and watched a video of some guy going all the way down the floors knocking on doors as he went. Never seen that before.

Hello Gents.

This one should be very easy. I was hoping someone might have a suggestion for a lass to come to my hotel for a nice massage, with or without a long list of extras.

I know there are a lot of "offers" on craigslist and backpage, but thought I would see if anyone could share a name or contact.

While I am begging for info, I haven't been in HK on a Saturday in forever, are the DH's out very much on Sat. Afternoon, or is that reserved for Sunday's only?

Thanks in advance for the info!

Sky.

[QUOTE=SkyRyder;1740619] I was hoping someone might have a suggestion for a lass to come to my hotel for a nice massage, with or without a long list of extras.

While I am begging for info, I haven't been in HK on a Saturday in forever, are the DH's out very much on Sat. Afternoon, or is that reserved for Sunday's only?

Sky.[/QUOTE]Plenty hotel massage girls available. Google it. I have used several different ones in the past and never been disappointed. There is one site that you deal with online and they guarantee a girl within 20 minutes. Extras always available for a reasonable price. One of my regular girls now dispenses with the massage if you know what I mean.

As for DH's, they are around nearly all the time now but very much on Saturdays and Sundays at the usual haunts.

Reckon I may be free Saturday.

[QUOTE=Chantik;1740876]Reckon I may be free Saturday.[/QUOTE]LOL!

And worth looking forward to!!

[QUOTE=Chantik;1740876]Reckon I may be free Saturday.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SkyRyder;1740619]Hello Gents.

This one should be very easy.[/QUOTE]Your right. One sure thing already! LOL.

Another regular poster recently posted about successful random meets in Wanchai. IMHO, it is true all over. Was in Bali a couple weeks ago had an interesting time with a couple cougars that wanted a go. Took a waitress a quarter of their age instead!

[QUOTE=SportMongr;1739216]Unless a taxi driver could point me to building 141. I guess that's the st spot. For reasonable $. Any directions. Or hours of operation would be appreciated. Hopefully night 2 more excitement.[/QUOTE]RTFF here for an interesting read and directions.

[QUOTE=SirLancelot;1701915]Day 7, Hong Kong to Guilin.
Thanks to people who have posted positive feedback and also big thanks to those people who answered my questions on here prior to my trip. Your help was very useful and enabled me to have a really memorable time in Hong Kong.

Finally if you'd like to continue reading, I will be posting the rest of my diary on the Manila and Angeles threads.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Ikksman;1705335]I am extremely tolerant wrt bad spelling and grammar, but sometimes poor English can impart the wrong meaning or at least confuse the reader.

[B]Troll[/B]
One who purposely and deliberately (that purpose usually being self-amusement) starts an argument in a manner which attacks others on a forum without in any way listening to the arguments proposed by his or her peers.
[SUP][url]http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=troll[/url][/SUP]

Perhaps "trawl" was the word intended to be used. Some (many?) readers would not pick this up, and thus the esteemed [I]JacktheLad2[/I] could hereafter be labelled a "troll" in the minds of those readers.

Or perhaps the writer deliberately labelled our [I]Lad[/I] as a "troll"? But who knows, unless the question is raised!

Other common potentially misleading errors include:
Using the word "inciteful" when "insightful" was the intended meaning.
Failing to distinguish between HKD and USD (or other $) - might be obvious to HK residents and frequent visitors, but . . .

Ikksman[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=GoodEnough;1705404]I think the original poster was using "troll" as a verb, meaning to fish using a baited line, in which case the usage is not at all pejorative and refers only to trolling for companions.

GE.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Boarer;1709053]Yikes! There be a troll (or [B]Troll[/B]) in this here forum with a big pole sticking out of its eye (maybe arse) and a foot in its mouth (or both feet)!

To paraphrase something else written a couple millennia ago, we are fishermen. IMHO, JTL might have better luck with a handsum wallet as a lure. Good for catching ladies and sailfish. Though, for the latter, the captain usually takes a much bigger bite than many ladies.

Many ladies will ask you to buy them a dildo later, in private.

(HKD, HK$ or the official currency of the HKSAR) 15.

Remember, Google and RTFF are your friends.

Now, back to our regular programming... Where did Lancelot leave off....[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SportMongr;1738516]So. This girl meets you after some chats. Bangs you minute 1 or so. Yes you feed her go out on a GFE date. Bang her more times. How many here believe it's right to give her some work money? I do. She didn't bang you for lunch and taxi ride paid to go home. I have a bud who does this. He claims he won't pay a girl for sex. But he travels to sex- poor countries. Goes on "dates" buys some food and drink. Bangs the girl and sends her on for minimal taxi fare. I can't be the only one who thinks that is not kosher. Comments?[/QUOTE]I only have similar experience in Bangkok, and I act more or less like your bud and also have the stand I don't pay for sex.

In Bangkok and over the years I have a handfull off working girls who are fine with this.

Probably you can look also different to this: if the girl don't go out she stays the whole day at her room and watching tv.

No other social contacts, by having a Farang who great her well and give attention to here she is willing to have sex with them.

Many of these girls even enjoy the sex too.

My experience and there are always people who immediately say "cheap charly" or similar but I just have time and switchend some years ago from pickimg up girls from a disco and pay them a lot with also the risk that back in the room she turnster out not the most willing person you thaumaturg she was before.

My standard for a DIA or ThaiFriendly contact which I use in Bangkok is always, meet in a public place like a shopping mall and around eating time. Mostly in the first 5 minutes I judge already yes or no. When it is a yes we first go to look which movie we want to see, buy tickets for 1 or 2 hours later then have some food and afterwards we see the movie.

Specially in the cinema you can lay your arm around her sholder and if she gives in much more touching kissing and more can followed. For me with the right girl that's always a kind of foreplay.

So you I believe that the story you reactie to is and was happend and from Many experiences I now that the girls (in BKK) are happy with that (at least I have a handfull of repetor).

[QUOTE=Tmg51;1736114]Dessie,

I am in HK next week and was looking at their site as well as hk-glamourgirls. What was your experience? Thanks.[/QUOTE]I had to change the trip dates now won't go thro until September. I am still waiting for feedback or info about the agency. Let me know if you use them. Thank you in advance.

Hi guys,

I plan to travel to HongKong for a few days next week. It's mainly a mongering trip (with added sight-seeing) as I am really get fed up of the overpriced market in Dubai (where I live). Discovering 141 was what really motivated me to go on this trip. I am not really a bar person, so picking someone up is not on the top of my list. I prefer incall locations, with no hassle of finding girl-friendly hotels etc.

I will only be focusing on Asian girls, as after RTFF I have come to the conclusion that non-Asians are over-priced with poor service, just like how WGs from Russia and EE in Dubai are.

I have narrowed the search down to flats in the HK Island area (Causeway Bay etc.) and also girls that speak English. Even after the mentioned parameters, the search led me to a plethora of girls. Is it safe to assume that the photos (especially ones with the 141 watermark) are genuine photos? I take it that I just call the number, book a slot and turn up? Any other pointers would be greatly appreciated!

TIA!

[QUOTE=SportMongr;1738516]How many here believe it's right to give her some work money? I do. She didn't bang you for lunch and taxi ride paid to go home. I have a bud who does this. He claims he won't pay a girl for sex. But he travels to sex- poor countries. Goes on "dates" buys some food and drink. Bangs the girl and sends her on for minimal taxi fare. I can't be the only one who thinks that is not kosher. Comments?[/QUOTE]You're right of course, and in certain poor countries girls will allow themselves to be done treated this way. Other countries (especially in Africa) not at all, the norm is girls wouldn't let a guy away with that. BTW, its not 'work money', rather a gift you'd be giving, a token of appreciation.

[QUOTE=Burkster;1745032]
I have narrowed the search down to flats in the HK Island area (Causeway Bay etc.) and also girls that speak English. Even after the mentioned parameters, the search led me to a plethora of girls. Is it safe to assume that the photos (especially ones with the 141 watermark) are genuine photos? I take it that I just call the number, book a slot and turn up? Any other pointers would be greatly appreciated!
TIA![/QUOTE]Most don't speak English, especially if they're from China.

All, repeat ALL photos are photoshop.

Having said that, you'll enjoy yourself with 141. I only have done HK Island but another highly rated area is Mongkok. Supposedly more bang for the buck. You can find more reviews and info at the 141 forum.

[QUOTE=Burkster;1745032]Hi guys,

I plan to travel to HongKong for a few days next week. It's mainly a mongering trip (with added sight-seeing) as I am really get fed up of the overpriced market in Dubai (where I live). Discovering 141 was what really motivated me to go on this trip. I am not really a bar person, so picking someone up is not on the top of my list. I prefer incall locations, with no hassle of finding girl-friendly hotels etc.

I will only be focusing on Asian girls, as after RTFF I have come to the conclusion that non-Asians are over-priced with poor service, just like how WGs from Russia and EE in Dubai are.

I have narrowed the search down to flats in the HK Island area (Causeway Bay etc.) and also girls that speak English. Even after the mentioned parameters, the search led me to a plethora of girls. Is it safe to assume that the photos (especially ones with the 141 watermark) are genuine photos? I take it that I just call the number, book a slot and turn up? Any other pointers would be greatly appreciated!

TIA![/QUOTE][QUOTE=Burkster;1745032]Hi guys,

I plan to travel to HongKong for a few days next week. It's mainly a mongering trip (with added sight-seeing) as I am really get fed up of the overpriced market in Dubai (where I live). Discovering 141 was what really motivated me to go on this trip. I am not really a bar person, so picking someone up is not on the top of my list. I prefer incall locations, with no hassle of finding girl-friendly hotels etc.

I will only be focusing on Asian girls, as after RTFF I have come to the conclusion that non-Asians are over-priced with poor service, just like how WGs from Russia and EE in Dubai are.

I have narrowed the search down to flats in the HK Island area (Causeway Bay etc.) and also girls that speak English. Even after the mentioned parameters, the search led me to a plethora of girls. Is it safe to assume that the photos (especially ones with the 141 watermark) are genuine photos? I take it that I just call the number, book a slot and turn up? Any other pointers would be greatly appreciated!

TIA![/QUOTE]The girls operate out of "1 woman brothels" which are legal. There can only be 1 girl per apartment. To get around this someone organized a ton of apartments on a single floor of a building and then just rents the rooms out to these girls as independents. So they have to pay to use the room.

Anyways, the buildings are all spelled out on [URL]go141.com[/URL]. The buildings and girls on the island are more expensive, but may have more English speakers than the ones on theKowloon side, but that doesn't mean better quality or service, it's just a factor of cost of rent.

In my experience the photos on the website match the girls well, but of course if they hide their stomachs in the photo that can mean stretch marks, etc.

You don't need an English speaker in my opinion. These aren't GFE girls. They want you in and out. A lot of them are mechanical. I have found one that was a bit more GFE, spoke good English, etc. But she was Indonesian (GiGi).

You don't need an appointment, however expect the hotter girls on 141 to be more occupied if you don't. The dilemma is how to make an appointment with a non English speaker and I'd just say don't bother.

Just go to one of the floors of one of the buildings and look to see if your desired girl is available, if so knock on the door. If she doesn't match the photos then just walk away. People do it constantly so no big deal. Anyways, if your girl isn't available (they flip a sign over when occupied) then just walk around and look at the other 20 apartments on the floor and see if you can find something you like. There will be a few other mongers walking around, just ignore them, they are harmless and just looking to get laid just like you.

Expect a 30 minute session, including shower before and after, no kissing, etc.

So to be honest, if your goal is to monger just the 141 girls, it doesn't really matter where you say, you can take a 10 min subway ride and have as much access to any area as you would if they were down the street.

Now, by limiting yourself to the 141 girls, you are honestly missing out on the best part of HK which is the freelancers in the Wan Chai bars.

My advice: go to the 141 girls during the day when everyone else is busy at work. A lot of them open at noon and get busy at 5 pm after work.

Then, take a break for dinner and hit Wan Chai in the evening. There are several short term motels right there by the bars, don't be afraid to use them, all the girls know where they are. Alternatively, get a private room in Wan Chai walking distance from the bars. None of the hotels care and if you are worried then just get an AirBNB or something.

Have some drinks and chat up a girl, then when you find one you like take her up to your room. The prices vary by race / nationality and quality.

You can get a hot Indonesian for as cheap as $500-1000 HKD (70-150 USD) for short time and $1500-$2500 ($200-300 USD) for all night (don't pay ahead of time or leave any valuables out, ha). I've had Spanish, Colombian, etc. Girls ask for $4000-$6000 overnight, just up to you really.

Anyways, the point is don't come all the way here to limit yourself to 141 girls who speak English, waste of time in my opinion.

Go for two 141 hot girls during the day, and 1-2 Wan Chai girls in the evening depending if you are looking for numbers or quality.

Then repeat. All in, you will spend like $300 USD per day and have sex with 4 hot girls.

$1500 HKD overnight is a sort of going rate.

Spend some time on the 141 forums and it is all pretty well spelled out for you.

Lastly, Sunday is fun day. All of the domestic helpers that live in HK are off on Sundays so they all go to the bars in Wan Chai to get drunk. They will go home with you for free, some will hit you up for $500 for like 2 hours.

Bottom line, get a room in Wan Chai!

Does anyone know if freelancers have disappeared from Hari's bar at the Holiday Inn Golden Mile Tsim Sha Tsui? I read something on Trip Advisor that indicates management may have banned them, but it's hard to tell from the post. I'm trying to decide whether to reserve a hotel in Kowloon and the answer to the question would have a bearing on that. Thanks!

I'm assuming it's because the trade is legal and with sites like 141, and the Wan Chai area being so upfront that there is little reason to report on it? Personally, I find Kowloon (near Tsim Sha Tsui) more exciting than Wan Chai. You can find Africans, Mainland Chinese, Thai, Russian. Hell, even a couple fugly Indians in the TST area. The Mong Kok area is better for walk ups than the Fuji Building (IMO). The one thing that Wan Chai is good for, aside from the pubs, is if you want the GFE, BUT if you really want the GFE from a Pinay you're much better off going to a place like Angeles or Cebu. I live in, and am new too, the Guangdong province. I'm sure there is some sort of monger scene here, but why bother when I've got HK two hours away.

[QUOTE=DessieO2;1744864]I had to change the trip dates now won't go thro until September. I am still waiting for feedback or info about the agency. Let me know if you use them. Thank you in advance.[/QUOTE]Check 141 sites, there are few agencies with pictures of girls (most quite accurate) and prices ranging from 900 HK to 1200 HK for visit.

CC.

[QUOTE=Finsbury;1745076]...Lastly, Sunday is fun day. All of the domestic helpers that live in HK are off on Sundays so they all go to the bars in Wan Chai to get drunk. They will go home with you for free, some will hit you up for $500 for like 2 hours.

Bottom line, get a room in Wan Chai![/QUOTE]Wow! Unbelievable! Every Sunday, 300,000 domestic helpers filling the Wanchai bars to overflowing, all getting drunk and willing to go home with me! Absolute paradise!

Hang on; who are those Pinay and Indo girls I see all over HK on any day of the week? I suppose they must be tourists as there are many older women amongst them! But if there were 300,000 drunk domestic helpers in Wanchai on a Sunday, there would not be room for anyone else to move? Unbelievable!

According to one of the local forums, yes you are correct. They have been banned. Years ago I was told that they moved around from Hari's to Sticky Fingers to some of the bars in Knutsford Terrace. Now there are a lot more bars in TST so most likely they go to other places as well. One time I dropped off a couple of girls from Hari's to Escape, and I have seen freelancers in Lan Kwai Fong as well.

[QUOTE=Tiny12;1745749]Does anyone know if freelancers have disappeared from Hari's bar at the Holiday Inn Golden Mile Tsim Sha Tsui? I read something on Trip Advisor that indicates management may have banned them, but it's hard to tell from the post. I'm trying to decide whether to reserve a hotel in Kowloon and the answer to the question would have a bearing on that. Thanks![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=PukiMonster;1746790]Wow! Unbelievable! Every Sunday, 300,000 domestic helpers filling the Wanchai bars to overflowing, all getting drunk and willing to go home with me! Absolute paradise!

Hang on; who are those Pinay and Indo girls I see all over HK on any day of the week? I suppose they must be tourists as there are many older women amongst them! But if there were 300,000 drunk domestic helpers in Wanchai on a Sunday, there would not be room for anyone else to move? Unbelievable![/QUOTE]Looks like you have no clue about Sunday afternoons in Wanchai and have never been to HKG. Sunday afternoons there are a pussy heaven and if you don't manage to get laid there is something wrong with you!

[QUOTE=Tiny12;1745749]Does anyone know if freelancers have disappeared from Hari's bar at the Holiday Inn Golden Mile Tsim Sha Tsui? I read something on Trip Advisor that indicates management may have banned them, but it's hard to tell from the post. I'm trying to decide whether to reserve a hotel in Kowloon and the answer to the question would have a bearing on that. Thanks![/QUOTE]I saw a couple girls there when I was in Hong Kong in late May. It was pretty early and I didn't stay late so I'm not sure if it picked up later on. In my (very limited) experience in Hari's over the years it's always been hit and miss. I've seen anywhere from no girls to 10-15 girls.

But to your greater point: stay where you like; the taxi to / from Kowloon to Wanchai is cheap, subway even cheaper, and believe me girls won't have any problem coming back to your Kowloon hotel from the Wanchai bars if you choose to stay there. They may / will likely ask for a bit of extra taxi fare, but that's nominal IMO and not a reason to stay in Wanchai. I personally much prefer Kowloon and have never had a girl refuse me because of the location.

I'm a Guangzhou expat and I made a spur of the moment trip to HK. I arrived in by train at 9 PM and took a taxi to Mong Kok. Walked around looking for a cheap hotel. I saw plenty of hourly ones. I tried one and spoke to the lady in Mandarin. She wanted to sell me the room for two hours, but I told her I want to stay the night. She said I could stay until 12 PM the next day for the price of two hours.

I took a shower and walked around. There were many hostess bars. In fact there was one right next to my hotel. I saw some pink signs on Reclamation street and knew this was a place to monger. I went upstairs, and saw the line up. A young fit girl walks into the room. I'm thinking not bad. Then to my surprise, about 10 other girls follow her. They are old and fat, so I choose the first one. The tout wants the money up front. She was very mechanical, and would not let my body touch hers during missionary. After about 3 minutes, she complains it hurts too much. She offers to give me a HJ, but I give her a stern look and tell her to get out. I was going to ask for another girl, but I didn't want to start any trouble. This guy could be a Triad for all I know.

Having a case of blue balls, I go to the next brothel. I choose a cute girl with large tits. She is a real trooper but still a little mechanical for my tastes. I'm use to the GFE / PSE service I get here in Guangzhou.

After that, I head to Wan Chai for drinks. Many SWs and girls in bars proposition me, but I've already shot my goo for the night. I saw many what looked like strip clubs on Lockehart road. I was curious, but something was telling me these places were a clip joint. I went to a bar, used their WiFi and did some research on the internet to find out it basically it is.

Here's some questions to the local HK expats. What kind of service will I get from the Bar Girls / SWs in Wan Chai? Will it be more GFE?

I saw many Thai Massages, in Wan Chai. Do these places offer extra services?

How about the Hostess bars in Mong Kok? What can I expect from those?

[QUOTE=Number87;1747056]After that, I head to Wan Chai for drinks. Many SWs and girls in bars proposition me, but I've already shot my goo for the night. I saw many what looked like strip clubs on Lockehart road. I was curious, but something was telling me these places were a clip joint. I went to a bar, used their WiFi and did some research on the internet to find out it basically it is.

Here's some questions to the local HK expats. What kind of service will I get from the Bar Girls / SWs in Wan Chai? Will it be more GFE?

How about the Hostess bars in Mong Kok? What can I expect from those?[/QUOTE]I think the strip club type bars along Lockhart Road aren't exactly clip joints, but they're overpriced and you're pressured to buy lady drinks for the girls. I ventured into one once for the adventure, knowing full well what I might be getting into, and it wasn't half as bad as I expected. I forget what I paid for a beer but it was maybe 2 x normal price, and I did manage to surreptitiously get the phone number of a cute girl who was sitting with me. When I left there were no ridiculous charges on my tab or anything like that, so again, I wouldn't really call it a clip joint. I never followed up with the girl; no need really since there are plenty of other options in the working girl bars in the area which are available for immediate delivery, as it were. The girls in the strip clubs I think are available for takeout but at some ridiculous price like 3000/ hour.

BTW service levels from girls in the "normal" bars vary, but I've never been disappointed with take out from places like Escape, New Makati, etc. Much depends on you. Not only on your demeanor but just as importantly on your ability to choose wisely.

[QUOTE=Lakeside;1746994]Looks like you have no clue about Sunday afternoons in Wanchai and have never been to HKG. Sunday afternoons there are a pussy heaven and if you don't manage to get laid there is something wrong with you![/QUOTE]Actually I do have a clue. I lived in HK for 3 years in the 90's, and again for 2 years in 2003/4, and currently live in SZ and go to HK 2 or 3 times per week. I also speak Tagalog and some Cebuano (I have lived PI as well).

I am aware that:

O a significant number of DHers have other days of the week off as their employers work at weekends.

O many of the Indo girls do not drink alcohol.

O many of the DHers meet and gather at other points around HKI, Kowloon and the NTs.

O many DHers want to spend their precious free time with their friends, and not some drunken gweilo.

However, HK (and not just Wanchai) is a great place to meet pussy (my favourite place to meet pinay pussy is around World Wide House).

You have just been watching the flowers whilst riding on horseback (Chinese proverb).

Regarding the thai massages in wan chai my experience is that mos are legit and most of the times I got an excellent massage for a decent price for HK. The installations are not luxurios but the massages are good.

[QUOTE=Number87;1747056]I'm a Guangzhou expat and I made a spur of the moment trip to HK. I arrived in by train at 9 PM and took a taxi to Mong Kok. Walked around looking for a cheap hotel. I saw plenty of hourly ones. I tried one and spoke to the lady in Mandarin. She wanted to sell me the room for two hours, but I told her I want to stay the night. She said I could stay until 12 PM the next day for the price of two hours.

I took a shower and walked around. There were many hostess bars. In fact there was one right next to my hotel. I saw some pink signs on Reclamation street and knew this was a place to monger. I went upstairs, and saw the line up. A young fit girl walks into the room. I'm thinking not bad. Then to my surprise, about 10 other girls follow her. They are old and fat, so I choose the first one. The tout wants the money up front. She was very mechanical, and would not let my body touch hers during missionary. After about 3 minutes, she complains it hurts too much. She offers to give me a HJ, but I give her a stern look and tell her to get out. I was going to ask for another girl, but I didn't want to start any trouble. This guy could be a Triad for all I know.

Having a case of blue balls, I go to the next brothel. I choose a cute girl with large tits. She is a real trooper but still a little mechanical for my tastes. I'm use to the GFE / PSE service I get here in Guangzhou.

After that, I head to Wan Chai for drinks. Many SWs and girls in bars proposition me, but I've already shot my goo for the night. I saw many what looked like strip clubs on Lockehart road. I was curious, but something was telling me these places were a clip joint. I went to a bar, used their WiFi and did some research on the internet to find out it basically it is.

Here's some questions to the local HK expats. What kind of service will I get from the Bar Girls / SWs in Wan Chai? Will it be more GFE?

I saw many Thai Massages, in Wan Chai. Do these places offer extra services?

How about the Hostess bars in Mong Kok? What can I expect from those?[/QUOTE]

Ramn / Jsxyz, Thanks for the replies. I'm not staying at the Holiday Inn but did swing by at about 10:30 PM last night. There were roughly 25 male customers. And 6 women, at least 3 of which did not appear to be on the game.

[QUOTE=Tiny12;1747222]Ramn / Jsxyz, Thanks for the replies. I'm not staying at the Holiday Inn but did swing by at about 10:30 PM last night. There were roughly 25 male customers. And 6 women, at least 3 of which did not appear to be on the game.[/QUOTE]So that means 3 WERE on the game?

Most likely they were; that's not the kind of bar where single girls will hang out for a glass of wine after a hard day's work at the office.

I'll be in HKG myself in a few weeks, and as always I'll make a point to stop by. I've never had any luck there, except if you count pulling a beautiful black girl from Madasagar who demanded up front payment back at my hotel, and then refused to leave when I deferred. Security called, etc. Etc. Not a pleasant night! Still I do always try to stop in to check the lay of the land. It's a nice change of pace from the Wanchai bars, and I'm ever hopeful I'll get TRULY lucky one of these visits.

What are the places you would recommend in Guangzhou for GFE. I could not even find anything when I was in Guangzhou the last two times. Much help appreciated.

[QUOTE=Number87;1747056]I'm a Guangzhou expat and I made a spur of the moment trip to HK. I arrived in by train at 9 PM and took a taxi to Mong Kok. Walked around looking for a cheap hotel. I saw plenty of hourly ones. I tried one and spoke to the lady in Mandarin. She wanted to sell me the room for two hours, but I told her I want to stay the night. She said I could stay until 12 PM the next day for the price of two hours.

I took a shower and walked around. There were many hostess bars. In fact there was one right next to my hotel. I saw some pink signs on Reclamation street and knew this was a place to monger. I went upstairs, and saw the line up. A young fit girl walks into the room. I'm thinking not bad. Then to my surprise, about 10 other girls follow her. They are old and fat, so I choose the first one. The tout wants the money up front. She was very mechanical, and would not let my body touch hers during missionary. After about 3 minutes, she complains it hurts too much. She offers to give me a HJ, but I give her a stern look and tell her to get out. I was going to ask for another girl, but I didn't want to start any trouble. This guy could be a Triad for all I know.

Having a case of blue balls, I go to the next brothel. I choose a cute girl with large tits. She is a real trooper but still a little mechanical for my tastes. I'm use to the GFE / PSE service I get here in Guangzhou..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=GetsZa;1747401]What are the places you would recommend in Guangzhou for GFE. I could not even find anything when I was in Guangzhou the last two times. Much help appreciated.[/QUOTE]Guangzhou is not the place for full service, but you can get the most amazing HJs there that are sometimes better than sex.

For Full service with great GFE, I go to the street walkers, they are hard to find nowadays because the police chase them from their working spots on random nights. So it is hit or miss finding them. The best way to get them, is to find one the rare night they are working, take her back to your place. If you like her, get her number and she will be available anytime you need her.

You can also get them at the night clubs like Kama, or Tru Color. Some of the street walkers I've seen said they will work the club when the police are on the streets. I imagine they charge a higher price in the clubs.

My experience with Gunagzhuou SW is that there is no clock watching, they are friendly, just about everything is on the menu, and they stay for an average of two hours. Usually a second pop is offered. Unlike other cities, these ladies aren't looking for another customer after she's done with you, so they are willing to stay longer.

You should post this in the Guangzhou section.

However when in Guangzhou I only go to the Kama club. Full of Columbian, however other nationalities can also be found. Prices about about RMB 1000 upwards. Can be a lot of fun, however they play a lot of Arabian music which I'm not a fan off.

[QUOTE=GetsZa;1747401]What are the places you would recommend in Guangzhou for GFE. I could not even find anything when I was in Guangzhou the last two times. Much help appreciated.[/QUOTE]

I just landed in HK and this will be my 4th trip here. Previously I've used walkups exclusively and I've read a little about the wan chai bars, but just curious, how old are the FLs there? I'm guessing the Sunday DHs are usually 30+? I've also read a report a while back that said 18-25 are extremely rare? Then I'm guessing attractive 18-25's are even rarer?

I prefer girls in their early / mid 20's at most, will I have any luck in these bars or should I stick with walkups / appointments?

[QUOTE=Skepti10;1747849]I just landed in HK and this will be my 4th trip here. Previously I've used walkups exclusively and I've read a little about the wan chai bars, but just curious, how old are the FLs there? I'm guessing the Sunday DHs are usually 30+? I've also read a report a while back that said 18-25 are extremely rare? Then I'm guessing attractive 18-25's are even rarer?

I prefer girls in their early / mid 20's at most, will I have any luck in these bars or should I stick with walkups / appointments?[/QUOTE]You can definitely find some hotties in the clubs, some in their 20's, most not. Sundays of course are usually going strong but there are lots that are hard on the eyes. If I were you, I would stick with the 141 ladies and then head over to Lockhart Road clubs in the evening.

Hari's Bar changed management and escorts aren't welcome.

DH on Sunday. Many of the ladies look younger than their age. Many who you think are 25 are actually in their 30's.

[QUOTE=Jsxyz;1747375]So that means 3 WERE on the game?

Most likely they were; that's not the kind of bar where single girls will hang out for a glass of wine after a hard day's work at the office.

[/QUOTE]One of the women in a group of three was smiling at me, a lot. Since Hari's no longer allows working girls, I figure she was attracted to my handsome, debonair good looks. Or there's an outside chance she's a Scientologist or beer-drinking Mormon who wanted to meet me, convert me and have my children.

Joking, she was probably a hooker who slipped through or a good time party girl looking to make a few bucks outside her regular job. She wasn't attractive enough for me to want to find out.

What are Sunday DHs?

[QUOTE=Number87;1748776]What are Sunday DHs?[/QUOTE]The D stands for desperate, not sure about the H though. You may find the solution by reading a few posts back.

[QUOTE=Tiger888;1749029]The D stands for desperate, not sure about the H though. You may find the solution by reading a few posts back.[/QUOTE]Tiger is being a bit too subtle for you methinks, although his advice to read back a few posts is still good.

DH refers to domestic helpers of which there are 1000's in HK, primarily from Philippines and Indonesia.

Most contracts allow the girls (women?) a day off, and it's usually Sunday so the filipinas can go to Mass and then meet their friends at those raucous, chicken-shed type of gatherings at a few spots in the city and around Admiralty where they virtually take over a whole city block to picnic, play cards and chatter chatter chatter. Many of the pinays go to the bars instead (after Mass of course lol) and try to supplement their income with a willing foreigner. In most cases they will have a curfew time and may need to leave early to get back to the employer, especially if they are working out in Sha Tin or somewhere distant like that. Not all girls in the bar / discos are looking for a guy, but you will soon work out which are interested and which are there just to dance and have fun.

Sadly for me on my last two visits to Hong Kong I wasn't able to sample any take-out cuisine from the Wanchai bars, so can any of the locals or frequent visitors let me know what current pricing is like? I think the last time I actually had a chance to bring a girl back to my hotel it was 1200 LT, and that was a couple years ago (plus, it was late and it was from New Makati, both of which may have contributed to a lower than average price).

I know some of the stunners in Escape start negotiating at 3 k for ST, but aside from that silliness, what are gents paying for top quality LT from Escape, Hong Kong Cafe, or NM? Is my sense that those 3 bars are generally going to be HIGH to LOW in that order when it comes to pricing?

Many thanks in advance. I managed to finagle a work trip for early next month and I'm really looking forward to it. On my last trip just a few months ago I came down with a bit of a cold so I didn't get any play time at all, just a miserably dejected few hours in Escape nursing my beer and wishing I wasn't sick!

Folks and Seniors,

I would be in HK this evening and was hoping to have a senior / wing man for this evening. It would be my first time in HK and I could definitely do with some help.

You could PM me if anyone would be interested!

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[QUOTE=Chantik;1748252]DH on Sunday. Many of the ladies look younger than their age. Many who you think are 25 are actually in their 30's.[/QUOTE]Sad but true.

[QUOTE=Boarer;1750976]Sad but true.[/QUOTE]What is wrong with an older girl if the looks are up to your expectation? Anyway I value experience and performance over looks.

[QUOTE=Jsxyz;1749336]Sadly for me on my last two visits to Hong Kong I wasn't able to sample any take-out cuisine from the Wanchai bars, so can any of the locals or frequent visitors let me know what current pricing is like? I think the last time I actually had a chance to bring a girl back to my hotel it was 1200 LT, and that was a couple years ago (plus, it was late and it was from New Makati, both of which may have contributed to a lower than average price).

I know some of the stunners in Escape start negotiating at 3 k for ST, but aside from that silliness, what are gents paying for top quality LT from Escape, Hong Kong Cafe, or NM? Is my sense that those 3 bars are generally going to be HIGH to LOW in that order when it comes to pricing?

Many thanks in advance. I managed to finagle a work trip for early next month and I'm really looking forward to it. On my last trip just a few months ago I came down with a bit of a cold so I didn't get any play time at all, just a miserably dejected few hours in Escape nursing my beer and wishing I wasn't sick![/QUOTE]Go to the 141 girls all over HK. For that LT 3 k price you can fuck at least 4 nice ones and 2 fat ones. Anyway after 4-6 pops, I want to sleep alone haha.

PC out.

[QUOTE=Pcpc1688;1751055]Go to the 141 girls all over HK. For that LT 3 k price you can fuck at least 4 nice ones and 2 fat ones. Anyway after 4-6 pops, I want to sleep alone haha.

PC out.[/QUOTE]I do. I do both bars and walk-ups. Frankly, I'm a drinker and I love a WG bar scene. It's pretty much my favorite activity so I tend to focus my energies there when I'm in a city where there IS a WG bar scene.

I was planning my first solo trip to HK and wanted some advice from members on the exact time frame and their impact on general Wanchai and 141 action.

I was planning for either the week of October 5th or 19th. The week of the 5th seems hotter and closer to the October 1 holiday. The 19th seems more expensive but further from the holiday and may cooler and more comfortable. Thoughts?

Also, I was looking at staying at the Fleming, Novotel or Wharney. Am I overlooking any?

To scratch that midday itch, I went to the Swatow street joint where I've had success in the past. This time, however, I had a pretty good massage and absolutely nothing else. Not even stray hands anywhere near the little dude.

So, to balance out my disappointment, looked up go 141 and went to 163 Hennessy. Got a pretty good massage, and a very good handie. All was not lost.

-HF.

[QUOTE=Jsxyz;1749336]Sadly for me on my last two visits to Hong Kong I wasn't able to sample any take-out cuisine from the Wanchai bars, so can any of the locals or frequent visitors let me know what current pricing is like? I think the last time I actually had a chance to bring a girl back to my hotel it was 1200 LT, and that was a couple years ago (plus, it was late and it was from New Makati, both of which may have contributed to a lower than average price).

I know some of the stunners in Escape start negotiating at 3 k for ST, but aside from that silliness, what are gents paying for top quality LT from Escape, Hong Kong Cafe, or NM? Is my sense that those 3 bars are generally going to be HIGH to LOW in that order when it comes to pricing?

Many thanks in advance. I managed to finagle a work trip for early next month and I'm really looking forward to it. On my last trip just a few months ago I came down with a bit of a cold so I didn't get any play time at all, just a miserably dejected few hours in Escape nursing my beer and wishing I wasn't sick![/QUOTE]Everyone's version of top quality is different. But I agree the women at Escape do start off much higher because the clientele is probably more the trade show crowd on an expense account rather than expats.

The day and time of time also plays into negotiations. If you are prime time 11 pm-1 am on a week day (Think trade shows in town) $2000-$2500ST easily. This is for a 8-10 girl. A lot of Colombian and Russian women also tip the scales to the higher end.

[QUOTE=Tiger888;1751023]What is wrong with an older girl if the looks are up to your expectation? Anyway I value experience and performance over looks.[/QUOTE]IMHO, it is attitude and GGG. The more experienced gals are more mercenary and hardened. Also, if there is an overlap with your like list with their don't like and don't want, it will be no. Period.

Like someone else, I like a guitar that tune good and a firm feeling woman.

Visited Lai chi kok 56-58 a few days ago, shagged a lady on the 5th floor, room 58 c.

Have to say that she's got the biggest tits I've even seen, also firm and soft.

Unfortunately she doesn't provide BBBJ, only CBJ. Sex is good, didn't complain even I changed positions a couple times.

Worth the money.

Face: 7/10 (she actually looks very much like the TVB actress Priscilla Wong).

Body: 10/10

Service: 8/10 everything is good except CBJ only.

I must say that the Africans in HK are a much nicer lot than those in BKK (I don't even look at the ones on Sukhumvit). I found the African gals are generally pleasant to the point that I've hung out with a few in the TST area drinking beers in front of 7/11. I do have the "when in Rome" mentality when it comes to working girls, BUT I am curious as to how much these broads cost. Does anyone have clue?

Was on a 48 HR stop over before flying home last night and office put me next to Fortress Hill MTR, new iClub by regal hotel. Good location as 5 minutes to office. Equally interesting as 5 minute walk to several 141 buildings on Electric Rd and Kings' Rd. So after calling it quits early at 4 pm, decided to do some exploration.

First stop, Kings Rd locations. Forgot name of the 300's number, second was Southern building. Each floor had anywhere from 3-4 rows of rooms, each 4-6 rooms. Rang a few bells, didn't find anything of interest. More of exploratory trip so moved on to 119-125 Electric Rd.

Two floors, each with about 6-10 rooms, knocked on a few, nothing. So walked up a flight and most of the rooms had waiting sign. Business was brisk apparently although didn't see anyone in the halls. 3 F,the, rang the bell, short, slightly plump but young one answered. She just got in the day before, spoke only Mandarin. Had a super round with her, very very GFE but needed some coaxing and patience to get her to relax. Everything except A+ was offered and accepted, nice 1 full hour session for HK380 plus well deserved 100 tip.

Got her wechat, woke her up the next morning, popped over for 9 am session, another full hour before she fell back to sleep and I slipped away, 500 less in my wallet.

Don't think she'll stay long and claims to do only Asians. Rejected a few gweilo from night before, YMMV. Pix on the photo gallery thread.

I am in city end of August. How reliable are escort ads on CL?

[QUOTE=TempStories;1758065]I am in city end of August. How reliable are escort ads on CL?[/QUOTE]Hi Buddy,

If you will be in town either Wednesday (=Ladies night) or on Sunday (DH day-off) I would rather stroll around in WanChai to see what will be on the menu.

CL is not really reliable. I had more success with DIA so far.

Have fun. I will be back in town in 2. 5 weeks.

[QUOTE=Jsxyz;1749336]Sadly for me on my last two visits to Hong Kong I wasn't able to sample any take-out cuisine from the Wanchai bars, so can any of the locals or frequent visitors let me know what current pricing is like? I think the last time I actually had a chance to bring a girl back to my hotel it was 1200 LT, and that was a couple years ago (plus, it was late and it was from New Makati, both of which may have contributed to a lower than average price).

I know some of the stunners in Escape start negotiating at 3 k for ST, but aside from that silliness, what are gents paying for top quality LT from Escape, Hong Kong Cafe, or NM? Is my sense that those 3 bars are generally going to be HIGH to LOW in that order when it comes to pricing?

Many thanks in advance. I managed to finagle a work trip for early next month and I'm really looking forward to it. On my last trip just a few months ago I came down with a bit of a cold so I didn't get any play time at all, just a miserably dejected few hours in Escape nursing my beer and wishing I wasn't sick![/QUOTE]Sorry to hear you were not well.

You know it is really all over the map. It depends on the day of the week, time of night, which bar, your ability to negotiate, local or tourist.

Escape, Joe Bananas and HK café will probably have the most professional and expensive. I would say HKD2,000-5,000 - though some guys don't care and I have heard higher (I have seen guys blow through HKD10,000 at Dragon Club). Makati, Neptune, Insiders, Amazonia, Boracay and mostly HKCafe too are probably HKD1,000-3,000.

These are my estimates for a non-local, in a hurry, convention in town, top girl.

For all others, it would be HKD0 to HKD1,500.

Most of the locals I know don't pay. But they have time, knowledge and are known by the girls.

Some locals pay small amounts when they want something special: specific girl, threesome, etc. That could be HKD300-1,000.

For a particular girl at a particular time, you might have to pay up. For any beautiful girl and with time to cruse, still very cheap.

Good luck on your next trip.

Hey guys I will be in HK soon.

Of course I RTFF and I saw some reports on the hop yee building. There is not much info on the 141 site and this would apparently be because it's mostly mainland chinese that rotate in and out quite often. So no point on posting adds for the girls.

But I just can't remember what the adres is of the hop yee building and I can't find the reports that posted it.

I found this on the 141 site: 474 - 476 Lockhart Road. I remember that the entrance should be next to a seveneleven, that seems to match this adres on google maps.

Anyone can confirm? And if it's still operational with floors full of girls?

Don't know if I can actually visit it, I've set up freebies every night I'm there, but who knows maybe during the afternoon some day.

Been to the Fuji building once and I had a good experience (if you like this sort of thing).

Thanks for anyone that can help out.

Cheers.

ALC.

[QUOTE=BrownRail;1758225]Sorry to hear you were not well.

You know it is really all over the map. It depends on the day of the week, time of night, which bar, your ability to negotiate, local or tourist.

Escape, Joe Bananas and HK caf will probably have the most professional and expensive. I would say HKD2,000-5,000 - though some guys don't care and I have heard higher (I have seen guys blow through HKD10,000 at Dragon Club). Makati, Neptune, Insiders, Amazonia, Boracay and mostly HKCafe too are probably HKD1,000-3,000.

These are my estimates for a non-local, in a hurry, convention in town, top girl.

For all others, it would be HKD0 to HKD1,500.

Most of the locals I know don't pay. But they have time, knowledge and are known by the girls.

Some locals pay small amounts when they want something special: specific girl, threesome, etc. That could be HKD300-1,000.

For a particular girl at a particular time, you might have to pay up. For any beautiful girl and with time to cruse, still very cheap.

Good luck on your next trip.[/QUOTE]Thanks, sounds like pricing hasn't gone up TOO terribly. The last time I had LT I might have paid 1500 vs. the 1200 I originally thought, and that was from NM. 1500 is about what I think is a "fair" price.

At any rate, I'm leaving next week and really looking forward to the trip! I'll hopefully have some adventures to report back.

[QUOTE=ErasmusBDragin;1634885]..................This post will cover SWs around the Temple St night market area. Even better are the Kowloon walk ups, but I'll save that for another post. [/QUOTE]OK, it's been awhile but, being a man of my word, I must follow up on this previous post.

A few yrs ago it seemed that hand written signs / posters listing prices for girls of various nationalities could be found in every alleyway and back st in Kowloon (pics attached). Nowadays these low end brothel-type places are seemingly far fewer in number, though some are probably operating more stealthily. It would seem that the signs are clearly in violation of the law against solicitation and, in practice, the establishments themselves are in violation of laws against pimping / pandering, but they've nonetheless been around for decades.

The MO of these places is like this: after walking up one or more flight (s) of stairs, you enter a reception area. Although the signs may list 6-8 nationalities, on my recent visits (within the last 2 yrs) only PRCs and local HK girls have been available promptly, while several times Thais and / or Pinays were available but would involve more waiting (ie. 30 minutes). The girls are then brought in for a line up (either in reception area or in your room). Line ups have varied from 1-4 girls. If you're unmoved by anything in the line up you can go next door or across the st, though in practice, I've found it's better to wait awhile (20-30 min) before hitting another place or you're likely to see the same girl (s) again. In practice I usually am happy with someone in the first line up. A couple of yrs ago I chose the first girl that showed up, not even bothering to wait for a line up as she was so cute.

Over the years I've had fairly consistent results at several places on one block of Reclamation St. I'm not certain, but I think it's the block north of Dundas St. If you walk the area, they're easy to find. This block has 3 doorways on the west side of the st and 2 on the east, but ea doorway may lead up to brothels on more than one floor. In the evenings there may be a hawker sitting out front who will lead / follow you up (for a commission). This doesn't bother me as any effect it has on pricing is nominal.

On my most recent visit I chose the second doorway on the left (walking north from Dundas), one flight up (the same bldg has at least one more place on the 3rd floor; I've visited it previously). I was escorted to a room which was typical of these places; clean, large bed with clean linens, attached shower, various channels of porn on small TV. Within minutes 5 girls were brought in. The first one was dressed in a way to expose her ample bosom, which made such an impression on me that I found it difficult to evaluate the others (in retrospect, had I been a bit less gobsmacked I would have chosen another taller, prettier girl). As quickly as the last of the others had exited the room she began undressing, which revealed a rather loose, flabby belly that made me want to kick myself for not taking a bit more time during the lineup. Once she got the bra off, though, I felt it was worth the trade-off offsetting her rather loose midsection was a plump set of full the cups. She then helped me out of my clothes and into the shower, where she was quite thorough at soaping & scrubbing me down. Then onto the bed and down to business. After maybe 5 min of uncovered (& competent) BJ, I produced my own cap which she installed before climbing on top. Then came the weird part; as she squatted on top, I latched onto her udders. As she bounced up and down I gradually became aware of a faint warm, slightly sweet taste. I pulled her tit out of my mouth to check it out and realized that she was lactating. Of course, I should have suspected it from the beginning; full, plump breast, puffy nipples and obvious (in retrospect) stretch marks. She confirmed that her baby was 5 months old and she had been nursing right up until her departure from her hometown in Guangdong earlier that morning (this was around 10 pm at night). Overall I give her a 7/10 for looks (pretty face, thin but with droopy belly & plump melons) and an 8/10 for service / attitude (very much into it, accommodating and unrushed. No need for lube, she got quite wet while doing the BJ).

As for the damage, I think it was HK $ 400 all in (prices in the doorway do not include the room charge), which buys you an hour. If you want 2 pops you should offer the girl a little extra; in my experience they're all happy to accommodate.

For some reason these places don't get much coverage on this board, though IMHO they offer excellent value compared to many options and better service than the typical 141 session. I would be interested in hearing other's impressions of these walk ups on Reclamation & Shanghai Streets, Mongkok.

[QUOTE=ErasmusBDragin;1760376]OK, it's been awhile but, being a man of my word, I must follow up on this previous post.

A few yrs ago it seemed that hand written signs / posters listing prices for girls of various nationalities could be found in every alleyway and back st in Kowloon (pics attached). Nowadays these low end brothel-type places are seemingly far fewer in number, though some are probably operating more stealthily. It would seem that the signs are clearly in violation of the law against solicitation and, in practice, the establishments themselves are in violation of laws against pimping / pandering, but they've nonetheless been around for decades.

The MO of these places is like this: after walking up one or more flight (s) of stairs, you enter a reception area. Although the signs may list 6-8 nationalities, on my recent visits (within the last 2 yrs) only PRCs and local HK girls have been available promptly, while several times Thais and / or Pinays were available but would involve more waiting (ie. 30 minutes). The girls are then brought in for a line up (either in reception area or in your room). Line ups have varied from 1-4 girls. If you're unmoved by anything in the line up you can go next door or across the st, though in practice, I've found it's better to wait awhile (20-30 min) before hitting another place or you're likely to see the same girl (s) again. In practice I usually am happy with someone in the first line up. A couple of yrs ago I chose the first girl that showed up, not even bothering to wait for a line up as she was so cute.

Over the years I've had fairly consistent results at several places on one block of Reclamation St. I'm not certain, but I think it's the block north of Dundas St. If you walk the area, they're easy to find. This block has 3 doorways on the west side of the st and 2 on the east, but ea doorway may lead up to brothels on more than one floor. In the evenings there may be a hawker sitting out front who will lead / follow you up (for a commission). This doesn't bother me as any effect it has on pricing is nominal.

On my most recent visit I chose the second doorway on the left (walking north from Dundas), one flight up (the same bldg has at least one more place on the 3rd floor; I've visited it previously). I was escorted to a room which was typical of these places; clean, large bed with clean linens, attached shower, various channels of porn on small TV. Within minutes 5 girls were brought in. The first one was dressed in a way to expose her ample bosom, which made such an impression on me that I found it difficult to evaluate the others (in retrospect, had I been a bit less gobsmacked I would have chosen another taller, prettier girl). As quickly as the last of the others had exited the room she began undressing, which revealed a rather loose, flabby belly that made me want to kick myself for not taking a bit more time during the lineup. Once she got the bra off, though, I felt it was worth the trade-off offsetting her rather loose midsection was a plump set of full the cups. She then helped me out of my clothes and into the shower, where she was quite thorough at soaping & scrubbing me down. Then onto the bed and down to business. After maybe 5 min of uncovered (& competent) BJ, I produced my own cap which she installed before climbing on top. Then came the weird part; as she squatted on top, I latched onto her udders. As she bounced up and down I gradually became aware of a faint warm, slightly sweet taste. I pulled her tit out of my mouth to check it out and realized that she was lactating. Of course, I should have suspected it from the beginning; full, plump breast, puffy nipples and obvious (in retrospect) stretch marks. She confirmed that her baby was 5 months old and she had been nursing right up until her departure from her hometown in Guangdong earlier that morning (this was around 10 pm at night). Overall I give her a 7/10 for looks (pretty face, thin but with droopy belly & plump melons) and an 8/10 for service / attitude (very much into it, accommodating and unrushed. No need for lube, she got quite wet while doing the BJ).

As for the damage, I think it was HK $ 400 all in (prices in the doorway do not include the room charge), which buys you an hour. If you want 2 pops you should offer the girl a little extra; in my experience they're all happy to accommodate.

For some reason these places don't get much coverage on this board, though IMHO they offer excellent value compared to many options and better service than the typical 141 session. I would be interested in hearing other's impressions of these walk ups on Reclamation & Shanghai Streets, Mongkok.[/QUOTE]I wandered very drunkenly into one of those type of establishments a bit further north on Portland Street a couple years ago and had probably the best sex I've had in Hong Kong. As you report the girls on offer were all cute, the establishment was clean and accommodating, the price was beyond fair (400 I believe, and no funny stuff like extra charges or room charges, etc.), and the service was outstanding.

I'm also a bit jealous of your lactating girl. That's one of my twisted fetishes that I've not yet been able to satisfy in the flesh! =).

[QUOTE=ErasmusBDragin;1760376] I would be interested in hearing other's impressions of these walk ups on Reclamation & Shanghai Streets, Mongkok.[/QUOTE]If you can waiting till December, you will read my impressions about HK after my first trip there.

You remind me that what I neglected to emphasize, and what makes these places worthwhile, is that the girls are young, (allowing for occasional exceptions) cute and very service oriented. Most are tourists out to finance their trip to HK, a few have been residents. Perhaps my best experience was with a 23 yr old Sichuanese girl working as a sales clerk at a department store on Nathan. She told me she had been doing this infrequently to supplement her modest income as she supported her family back home; a solid 8 in my book, with firm "see" cups, nice flat tummy and round butt. This girl (as are many of them) was much more attractive than anything you are likely to find in WanChai (imo, guys. Don't flame me), and she acted like a long lost GF, enjoying the act (s) every bit as much as I did.

Every time I ask they are happy to share wechat IDs / phone numbers. On one occasion a girl came to my hotel the following day and we stayed in touch (via Weixin) until she married early this year.

As for the milk thing, I have to admit it added something different to the experience. Once I got over the initial shock, she encouraged me to nurse, guiding her tit with one hand into my mouth. Even after I pulled my mouth away it kept dripping until my chest was covered in milk. After finishing in doggie there were 2 big wet spots under her dripping mams, LOL.

Someone recently commented in this thread about price increases in HK. It's been more than a decade since I first wandered into one of these walk ups. I honestly can't recall the exact prices from any particular visit, but I'm sure it has always been 350 - 400 (on those occasions that I have gotten 2 pops, I've tipped the girl an extra 200), zero inflation over a decade or more. Compared to Beijing, where equivalent service would have been roughly the same price a decade ago, today it's less than 1/2 price.

[QUOTE=Jsxyz;1760487]I wandered very drunkenly into one of those type of establishments a bit further north on Portland Street a couple years ago and had probably the best sex I've had in Hong Kong. As you report the girls on offer were all cute, the establishment was clean and accommodating, the price was beyond fair (400 I believe, and no funny stuff like extra charges or room charges, etc.), and the service was outstanding.

I'm also a bit jealous of your lactating girl. That's one of my twisted fetishes that I've not yet been able to satisfy in the flesh! =).[/QUOTE]

Can someone comment on the 141 Phone Reservations girls? I would like the comfort of browsing girls from my hotel room instead of sharing elevator rides with smelly Asian dudes. BUT, what are the chances of getting the girl in the pictures and getting the services mentioned in the description?

Also, how to communicate with the 141 girls regarding service? Is it wham-bang-thank-you-mam or you can massage etc too? The 141 site lists different "packages" at different rates & time duration. But if the girls don't speak English, how do you communicate which one you want?

[QUOTE=Tiger888;1761579]If your nose can't distinguish smelly from Asian, you better stay where you are.[/QUOTE]Well said Tiger.

[QUOTE=Traveler1234;1761590]Well said Tiger.[/QUOTE]LOL. Sorry, it was not meant to be a racial slur. Please read it as "Asian dudes some of whom are smelly".

[QUOTE=Chantik;1748252]Hari's Bar changed management and escorts aren't welcome.[/QUOTE]It's the general manager at Holiday Inn that has changed and she is a lady (first female hotel GM I come across within 30 years of travelling). She has instructed to cleanup Hari's Bar. But now she complains to the F+B director why business in Hari's has dropped more than half. Wonder what planet she is coming from if she as a hotel GM doesn't understand how things work in hotel bars.

Hello,

Can you recommend me some escort agency for outcall meetings?

Many thanks!

I arrived a few days ago, Friday night, and wow. Is it just me or is the scene a lot quieter than a year or two ago? I don't get to HKG often enough, but it definitely seems different this time. New Makati was completely empty all Friday night (but was somewhat busier Saturday, when I was fortunate to meet a lovely Indo girl). And Hong Kong Cafe was better, but still not that many good quality girls (IMO). And it seems even the 5's and 6's are quoting 2 k ST, and not budging from that price. Escape of course is the place to be for the real lookers, but there the prices start at 3 k ST. I had a gorgeous Mongolian / Russian girl come up to me and practically hump my leg while standing there. She was pretty drunk and apparently took a liking to me. But she wouldn't come down below 2500ST, so I deferred. IMO that's just crazy money for pussy and while I don't begrudge anyone a living, I never see any girls from Escape leaving with gentleman friends, so it makes me wonder how they can keep their prices so high. I guess someone must be paying or prices would drop.

I've got a couple more nights in town, hoping for better luck; but thank goodness for the 600 walk-ups and the 400 brothels. They are likely to get my business after I get my fill of beer in Wanchai.

[QUOTE=Jsxyz;1764679]I arrived a few days ago, Friday night, and wow. Is it just me or is the scene a lot quieter than a year or two ago? I don't get to HKG often enough, but it definitely seems different this time. New Makati was completely empty all Friday night (but was somewhat busier Saturday, when I was fortunate to meet a lovely Indo girl). And Hong Kong Cafe was better, but still not that many good quality girls (IMO). And it seems even the 5's and 6's are quoting 2 k ST, and not budging from that price. Escape of course is the place to be for the real lookers, but there the prices start at 3 k ST. I had a gorgeous Mongolian / Russian girl come up to me and practically hump my leg while standing there. She was pretty drunk and apparently took a liking to me. But she wouldn't come down below 2500ST, so I deferred. IMO that's just crazy money for pussy and while I don't begrudge anyone a living, I never see any girls from Escape leaving with gentleman friends, so it makes me wonder how they can keep their prices so high. .[/QUOTE]Well done not to entertain these ridiculous prices and to stay firm. Hopefully more of us will do the same as you did and not let the little brain take over the thinking and surrender to these surreal prices (for HK standards). It's us who control the demand and thus the prices.

Continuing my researches into expensive venues in TST (see Daily Spa, Coral Spa etc), I visited Luxury Spa (details on the one-four-one web site that Jackson does not allow us to name). The web site made it look interesting, and I became curious about it. Booking by SMS message was easy enough, despite a little language barrier that required a couple of questions to be repeated.

The location isn't so good, as it involves an irascible doorman who kept shouting at me in Cantonese. I didn't understand a word of it and ignored him, but it's not exactly an inconspicuous way to enter a building. But once in the "spa", it's very pleasant. Spa isn't really the right word. It's a small apartment that contains a single room that includes a double bed (in ludicrous Disney Louis Quinze styling), a little shower room, and a gigantic jacuzzi tub.

Only one girl was there; no choice, no mamasan, just one girl. Luckily she was lovely, young, slim and pretty, and called herself Celia. She helped me undress, and then joined me in the shower for a bit of a scrub.

I read a write-up of this place that said the girl then joins one in the jacuzzi for some pre-penetration fun. Celia didn't do that. She had me straight from the shower to the bed, and went straight into the action. This wasn't bad at all, apart from CBJ, and she was happy to accept fingers, DATY, and eventually a good session in a variety of positions, ending in mish. Nothing to complain about.

Then she led me to the tub, and I got in and relaxed. She just sat there next to the tub and watched me. I asked if she was getting in, and she said no. This was extremely uncomfortable. Relaxing in a jacuzzi with a lovely naked girl leaning on you would be heaven. TRYING to relax while the lovely naked girl sits nearby looking bored is exceptionally hard. I gave it five minutes and then gave up, got out, dried myself and got ready to leave. Big black mark there; they are not using their resources well at all.

Total cost HK $2,000, for an hour, which is pretty poor value for money, even given the high quality of the girl's physical attributes and her overall nice attitude.

Also there's no massage here.

Not likely to return; and that's why I'm doing a field report. Taking one for the team is no use if you don't write it down!

[QUOTE=ZuzonX;1761943]It's the general manager at Holiday Inn that has changed and she is a lady (first female hotel GM I come across within 30 years of travelling). She has instructed to cleanup Hari's Bar. But now she complains to the F+B director why business in Hari's has dropped more than half. Wonder what planet she is coming from if she as a hotel GM doesn't understand how things work in hotel bars.[/QUOTE]There are many female general managers out there. The head of Raffles / Swissotel is / a very formidable singaporean lady. Owner of Mulia in Jakarta is a formidable Indonesian lady. Four Seasons, Raffles, Hilton, Hyatt, Sheraton etc all have a successful rosta of female general managers. Many of them have all worked in less senior positions so all know where a bars money comes from.

[QUOTE=FreebieFan;1765007]There are many female general managers out there. The head of Raffles / Swissotel is / a very formidable singaporean lady. Owner of Mulia in Jakarta is a formidable Indonesian lady. Four Seasons, Raffles, Hilton, Hyatt, Sheraton etc all have a successful rosta of female general managers. Many of them have all worked in less senior positions so all know where a bars money comes from.[/QUOTE]I may swing by Hari's tonight; it's my last night in town and I've got to get up relatively early for my flight home tomorrow, so I think I'd best avoid Wanchai. Will report back if I make it.

Agree with Jy's post. The prices quoted are about right. Have posted for about a year that prices have gone up in the Wanchai Bar areas. Had a friend re-enter the industry after time away and the prices she wanted to charge in Wanchai bars was similar to JY's post.

There is always a different rate for a visitor and a local. Locals always have an advantage in this area.

Prices go up all the time for any service / goods. Sometimes its like guys wish they were in 1975 and not 2015.

[QUOTE=Chantik;1765279]Agree with Jy's post. The prices quoted are about right. Have posted for about a year that prices have gone up in the Wanchai Bar areas. Had a friend re-enter the industry after time away and the prices she wanted to charge in Wanchai bars was similar to JY's post.

There is always a different rate for a visitor and a local. Locals always have an advantage in this area.

Prices go up all the time for any service / goods. Sometimes its like guys wish they were in 1975 and not 2015.[/QUOTE]Indeed, it just seems like a lot of money for Hong Kong; I expect those prices in Singapore at Brix, but it seems the inflation here has hit pretty quickly. I'm relatively quite new to the game, having made my first foray into the HKG scene maybe 3 years ago - 4 at most. I'm pretty sure 1200 was the going LT rate back then. And I don't really understand how the prices have gone up so much here, since there are so many bars and so many lovelies packing in each one night after night. But. Who knows!

Another question for you. What's up with New Makati? It was absolutely dead on Friday, and only slightly crowded on Saturday. On past trips it's been jam packed every night I've visited. It still remains my favorite venue, as I seem to have taken a fancy to your countrywomen and they're usually there vs. Other clubs! =).

I will not be paying these prices, methinks I will stick to 141 girls, Temple St and surround walk ups, K pressure, Mongkok walk-ups, I will be in Wanchai just for beers and dance. Also Macau side trips.

[QUOTE=Jsxyz;1764679]I arrived a few days ago, Friday night, and wow. Is it just me or is the scene a lot quieter than a year or two ago? I don't get to HKG often enough, but it definitely seems different this time. New Makati was completely empty all Friday night (but was somewhat busier Saturday, when I was fortunate to meet a lovely Indo girl). And Hong Kong Cafe was better, but still not that many good quality girls (IMO). And it seems even the 5's and 6's are quoting 2 k ST, and not budging from that price. Escape of course is the place to be for the real lookers, but there the prices start at 3 k ST. I had a gorgeous Mongolian / Russian girl come up to me and practically hump my leg while standing there. She was pretty drunk and apparently took a liking to me. But she wouldn't come down below 2500ST, so I deferred. IMO that's just crazy money for pussy and while I don't begrudge anyone a living, I never see any girls from Escape leaving with gentleman friends, so it makes me wonder how they can keep their prices so high. I guess someone must be paying or prices would drop.

I've got a couple more nights in town, hoping for better luck; but thank goodness for the 600 walk-ups and the 400 brothels. They are likely to get my business after I get my fill of beer in Wanchai.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Jsxyz;1765367]Indeed, it just seems like a lot of money for Hong Kong; I expect those prices in Singapore at Brix, but it seems the inflation here has hit pretty quickly. I'm relatively quite new to the game, having made my first foray into the HKG scene maybe 3 years ago - 4 at most. I'm pretty sure 1200 was the going LT rate back then. And I don't really understand how the prices have gone up so much here, since there are so many bars and so many lovelies packing in each one night after night. But. Who knows!

Another question for you. What's up with New Makati? It was absolutely dead on Friday, and only slightly crowded on Saturday. On past trips it's been jam packed every night I've visited. It still remains my favorite venue, as I seem to have taken a fancy to your countrywomen and they're usually there vs. Other clubs! =).[/QUOTE]HK prices and Singapore prices have always been similar. That's why a number of Singapore based escorts travel to HK and vice versa. Hk prices have gone up a little in Wanchai, but there hasn't been a dramatic increase. Long term prices? It depends on your definition. Some guys take a girl at at 5 am and the girl is gone by 9 am or 10 am. And guys call that long term. Other gents consider long time to be a 12 hour booking.

Makati. Started to lose business 18 months ago when the Indo overstay / refugee ladies had to leave HK. Then with the unfortunate events of September 14 business dropped off even more. Business at makati is slowly improving but it still only 50% of two years ago. Also more Indo ladies are working online instead of going to bars.

[QUOTE=Jsxyz;1765367]
Another question for you. What's up with New Makati? It was absolutely dead on Friday, and only slightly crowded on Saturday. On past trips it's been jam packed every night I've visited. It still remains my favorite venue, as I seem to have taken a fancy to your countrywomen and they're usually there vs. Other clubs! =).[/QUOTE]NM was always a favourite of mine as well. Frequented by DH's who were more than happy to keep you happy and for very little financial return as I have reported often in the past. The DH price norm was in the region of $500, gratefully received. Always presented and seen as a "gift".

I'm glad I have a few DH phone numbers that I can still use for my next visit coming up, but I am aware the price has gone up slightly. I have a feeling that the NM venue suffered following on the murder last year and it seemed to me that the DH's were frequenting some of the other bars more often. At least many I spoke to in other bars purported to be a DH, maybe to save face of course.

It's still a great place to monger, but supply / demand always seems to be a factor as well. I recollect breaking the bank earlier in the year in Escape and paying $2000 - but she was worth it! Hope I don't have to repeat too often.

[QUOTE=Chantik;1765279]Agree with Jy's post. The prices quoted are about right. Have posted for about a year that prices have gone up in the Wanchai Bar areas. Had a friend re-enter the industry after time away and the prices she wanted to charge in Wanchai bars was similar to JY's post.

There is always a different rate for a visitor and a local. Locals always have an advantage in this area.

Prices go up all the time for any service / goods. Sometimes its like guys wish they were in 1975 and not 2015.[/QUOTE]Hmmm. A commodity that consistently increases in price, easy access and entry, and recession proof. Need more at these times. LOL.

[QUOTE=Jsxyz;1764679]I arrived a few days ago, Friday night, and wow. Is it just me or is the scene a lot quieter than a year or two ago? I don't get to HKG often enough, but it definitely seems different this time. New Makati was completely empty all Friday night (but was somewhat busier Saturday, when I was fortunate to meet a lovely Indo girl). And Hong Kong Cafe was better, but still not that many good quality girls (IMO). And it seems even the 5's and 6's are quoting 2 k ST, and not budging from that price. Escape of course is the place to be for the real lookers, but there the prices start at 3 k ST. I had a gorgeous Mongolian / Russian girl come up to me and practically hump my leg while standing there. She was pretty drunk and apparently took a liking to me. But she wouldn't come down below 2500ST, so I deferred. IMO that's just crazy money for pussy and while I don't begrudge anyone a living, I never see any girls from Escape leaving with gentleman friends, so it makes me wonder how they can keep their prices so high. I guess someone must be paying or prices would drop.

I've got a couple more nights in town, hoping for better luck; but thank goodness for the 600 walk-ups and the 400 brothels. They are likely to get my business after I get my fill of beer in Wanchai.[/QUOTE]Agreed! Although a Mongolian / Russian does sound delicious, $2500 is way too much. The walk up / brothel scene in Kowloon is a no brainier IMO. About 10 days ago I had a cute mainland gal at a Soy street brothel for just $380, hell I could've taken all 5 of the girls they showed and still not racked up a bill for $2500!

Mainland Chinese prostitute stabbed to death in frenzied brothel attack had only been in Hong Kong 24 hours.

[URL]http://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/law-crime/article/1852647/mainland-chinese-prostitute-45-chopped-death-brutal-hong[/URL]

PUBLISHED: Wednesday, 26 August, 2015,9:30 am.

UPDATED: Thursday, 27 August, 2015,10:12 am.

News›Hong Kong›Law & Crime.

CRIME.

Clifford Lo.

A mainland prostitute was allegedly killed in a frenzied knife attack by her client in a Yau Ma Tei brothel on Wednesday, less than 24 hours after arriving in the city.

The 20-year-old suspect is accused of having sex with another mainland prostitute next door before stabbing the 45-year-old woman. He allegedly fled the brothel in his underpants and jumped into the sea in an apparent suicide attempt.

A passerby called police and the man was arrested on the Kwun Tong promenade after swimming ashore.

"he was wearing underpants and a cloth bag was also wrapped around his waist at the time of the arrest," a police source said.

It is understood he found the bag after running out of the flat, and jumped into a taxi that took him to Kwun Tong. On Wednesday night, police were questioning the man, a new mainland immigrant.

The killing happened in a second-floor subdivided flat in Reclamation Street at about 3. 45 am. Police said the motive remained unknown. The victim. Li Jianfeng. Suffered multiple stab wounds, and a bloodstained knife was found at the scene.

"Initial examination showed she suffered more than 20 stab wounds to the neck and chest," said Superintendent Calvin Mohammed, acting assistant Yau Tsim district commander (crime). He said the suspect was believed to be a customer who went to the flat to buy sex.

"A woman heard the victim screaming and went to check. She found a man running out from the flat," the source said.

Li was found unconscious on the floor inside the flat. She was taken to Kwong Wah Hospital in Yau Ma Tei, where she was declared dead at 4. 18 am.

Li, holder of a two-way permit allowing travel from the mainland to Hong Kong and Macau, came to Hong Kong on Tuesday. The woman who found the body is a friend and also from the mainland. It is understood she alerted a male brothel-keeper, who called police.

Another police source said many subdivided flats in Yau Ma Tei, Tsim Sha Shui and Mong Kok were used as brothels for mainland prostitutes. "Each pays about HK $350 a day to rent a subdivided flat for the purpose of prostitution during their seven-day visit," he said. "They solicit clients on the street and offer sex services in such flats, which are used as their accommodation. ".

Immigration figures show that 2,502 sex workers, mostly from the mainland, were arrested in the first seven months of this year. A total of 2,685 were nabbed in the same period last year.

Police figures show there were 11 reports of homicide in the first six months of the year, compared with 13 in the same period last year. There were two reports of homicide in July and this month.

[QUOTE=DirtyHog;1765692]I will not be paying these prices, methinks I will stick to 141 girls, Temple St and surround walk ups, K pressure, Mongkok walk-ups, I will be in Wanchai just for beers and dance. Also Macau side trips.[/QUOTE]Your going to pay way more in Macau. Only cheap ones I had in Macau are the horney Viet Massage girl that comes over after shift, 141 Macau gals at MetroPark, Casa Real and other mid range hotels for 700-800 mop for 1 HR maybe or more like one pop and done.

The cheaper ones are definitely in Mongkok and surrounding areas.

PC out.

[QUOTE=Boarer;1766001]... Need more at these times. LOL.[/QUOTE]Wow -- posts by Chantik, Jack the Lad 2 and Boarer, and all in row at that. Seems almost like good times. And yet the news makes it seem like HK will be a quick stopover (an escape from SexPrisonUSA) on the way to BKK, or AC or Jakarta / Bali, a side dish.

And not much in the way of the full meal, if even Wan Chai is lacking in talent.

[QUOTE=BrockStar;1766268]Agreed! Although a Mongolian / Russian does sound delicious, $2500 is way too much. The walk up / brothel scene in Kowloon is a no brainier IMO. About 10 days ago I had a cute mainland gal at a Soy street brothel for just $380, hell I could've taken all 5 of the girls they showed and still not racked up a bill for $2500![/QUOTE]For sure, so much talent and opportunity there. I had a (relatively) early flight home to the US on my departure date, so the night before rather than go back to Wan Chai I took a walk up to a place on Shanghai Street and had a lovely time. I was turned away by the first door I knocked on (which was a first for me at a walkup), I declined the 2nd, but the 3rd time was the charm. Completely lovely little spinner who was enthusiastic and wonderful, all for 400 (plus 50 tip because I liked her so much!)

[QUOTE=BrockStar;1766268]Agreed! Although a Mongolian / Russian does sound delicious, $2500 is way too much. The walk up / brothel scene in Kowloon is a no brainier IMO. About 10 days ago I had a cute mainland gal at a Soy street brothel for just $380, hell I could've taken all 5 of the girls they showed and still not racked up a bill for $2500![/QUOTE]It makes you think, 141 girls or walk-ups around Mongkok, or K pressure etc. 2500 for a short time Wanchai girl, that's 6 separate sessions with other girls, lets just say only wanted to pay 2500 in one week, you could guarantee the excitement of one shag a day almost for that each day for pretty much a week, then sit there happily in Wanchai drinking beer afterwards and listening to the music. I have done just that, even told a couple of girls I had done that, they ask how much, I tell them in the past, they get annoyed with me, so what, drop your price then. I always feel quite special "beating the market". I am smug with that knowledge. The market I always think seems somewhat fixed in Wanchai anyway, almost that they will not undercut each other. That's fine but the 5 or 6's end up with no business and only on a special occasion is a 7 plus taken away, unfair on all the girls, I am sure in the past I would see many guys leaving continually with girls, now just on occasion I see a takeout. Even that may be a with wife or girlfriend.

Then you have the issue that they say long time, you get to the hotel, I tell them theres half now, theo ther half in the morning, so the Viet girl couple of years ago gets annoyed, she was a looker, maybe 8, so she then gives me half hour, a decent shag, but then pissed off saying she was going to the Neptune to find another. Oh nice thank you. Then she slammed the door. That just proved my point, I always pay half in the morn, other half, also I was suspect she was trying to get me to have a drink, somewhat forcefully, strange that, probably to knock me out with something then nick my Rolex and cash perhaps. Little did she know they were already in the safe.

Anyway these games are played with this long time short time issue, whether they will look after you till morning etc, go for the one hour girls in Mongkok and places, can get guaranteed sex without all that hassle. There are benefits. But I do like Wanchai cannot beat the music, the dance, the drinks, the atmosphere, going from place to place in a circle people watching, getting drunk within reason, love all that, would not miss it for the world. Sadly apart from occasional, I push most of my financial investment in that particular working girl market elsewhere recently. Usually to Kowloon or 141's all over.

[QUOTE=BrownRail;1758225]
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Most of the locals I know don't pay. But they have time, knowledge and are known by the girls.

Some locals pay small amounts when they want something special: specific girl, threesome, etc. That could be HKD300-1,000.

For a particular girl at a particular time, you might have to pay up. For any beautiful girl and with time to cruse, still very cheap.

Good luck on your next trip.[/QUOTE]Why would girls go with locals without some consideration? How does time fix this? I guess you're suggesting some of the pro girls will take a liking to the guys and take up more of a FB relationship? Or do you mean locals have more time to work on the non-pros?

Gents,

So the first time I did p4 p in HK I did not write a TR, sorry about that, it was just after I did a report in the Nairobi section where I was ridiculed and honed away just because I was apparently overpaying the girl. I did not feel like reporting again for quite awhile. Eventhough the HK section had nothing to do with it of course.

Back then I went to the Fuji building and had a great experience with a chubby middle aged Vietnamese Girl named Candy. Was a lot of fun, so this time I wanted to try another place and see what happens.

First day in HK I met up with a DH from the philipinnes, actually my first pinay that I ever did. I went to manila many times before I ventured into the p4 p world and everything started there in the hotel spa where the massage lady did something to me that I had only heard of before. I was quite green.

I'm not in HK a lot, over the past years I've visisted maybe 4 times? So it's not really worth my time keeping up relations with girls like I do in other places. And this shows in the quality of my freebies that I manage to date. In other countries I'm dating models, cabincrew (which I realise is much easier if you are working in aviation yourself) but this time I had a short, a little chubby 25 y / o mom of 2 with a pretty face from borocay. Never fucked another man besides her lowlife husband, never did a BJ, never been licked herself, never did any positions and her last time was 3 years ago. Now I could have gone p4 p, but I'm on an extreme low budget at this moment. So what the heck. I had some good stuff on the way later. Met her on tagged and chatted a bit, did not really see her as a prospect but after she responded really well to one of my sex invite questions I thought why not. (girls I usually see as backup I pretty much ask right away if they want to meet for fun) When I met her she was very shy and nervous. Am I the only one that thinks pinay girls have a weird leg to upperbody ratio? Like their legs are just a little shorter then other asian girls. Maybe it's just this girl or maybe it's the way she was dressed but i really noticed it right when i saw her.

Did her 2 times, before I fell asleep and one more after I woke up again, all bareback no problem as long as I was absolutely 100% postively sure she would not get pregnant. Since I'm sterile that wouldn't be a problem. While I was sleeping she would just lay there and read her book. Saying she liked looking at me while I slept and I snored a little. LOL She also attempted a BJ on me, which was fun, mostly she giggled a lot and it was just great seeing her make one of her wishes come true. Gave her a good orgasm too by licking her and she was truly greatful.

Next day she texts me that she had a great time but her clit was swollen en her pussy felt sore and she had musclepains from spreading her legs so far. LOL guess she did have a good time, as did I. But sadly no repeats although she wants that badly.

DAY 2.

I'm not feeling that great, just a bad night and lots of jetlag. Normally I handle it well but this time I could not get myself out of bed. I had a meeting setup with another pinay DH that morning better body but not such a great face. Getting one on Monday during the day is hard since most have to start work again, but her boss was away on vacation so she had all the time in the world. I wasn't that sad to cancel on her and sleep. She was a little bummed out but did not get too much drama. Then I contacted my best and last girl to see if we were still on for tonight. Local office girl, sexy slim body, long legs and OK face. Met her on craigslist. Now I know most guys here on ISG don't consider CL as a viable option, and I agree it's full with gays and hookers but I have had some great meetups from CL. It's all about how you present yourself in your advertisements. I use it a lot and apparently so do quite a bit of married bored women cause it's quite anonymous, they don't have to register or make a profile like on tagged or badoo etc. Still I wish CL would remove the flag option, cause everytime I put: "Married or attached ladies are welcome" I get flagged for removal by some zealots that see this as too sinnful even for CL. Jees.

Back on topic: she texts back that she is not feeling well, getting a cold etc. Well that sucks. Guess that door swings both ways. She probably has found another hot guy to bang, or maybe she is truly under the weather but she wants to keep in touch until next time. Doubt I'll be back in time to hold her interest, we will see.

So now I'm free to spend my budget money intended to wine and dine these ladies for a p4 p hookup. I had about 700 to spend total. I did lookup the Hop Yee building but a last minute hotel change messed that up. I could have easily gone there on foot from wanchai but I chose another venue to visit. 10 minutes away on foot was 115 Queen's road, you can look up the exact location on the 141 site. (my GPS app puts it at: 22.2757676, 114.1705297) It has 4 floors with about 5 rooms each. Started knocking on doors but quite a few stayed closed, don't know if it was because I'm white but it happens a lot, happend to me last time in the Fuji builiding too. So I work my way down to 3rd floor. The room in the back said Didi. Pretty pics on the door but cleary those were in her younger days (as most of the time) It said good blowjob on the door. She is a chubby mainland chinese from Shenzen (I think) spoke basic english.

She is cuddly and touching me all over through my pants, bit giggly too, just good fun. We get undressed and I help her and she helps me. Finger her a bit through her panties and she is wet. (I like to think this is not leftover from the last guy LOL) She has a great rack for an asian girl but also probably because she is chubby. Trimmed pussy. Onwards to the shower, which as always is just the toilet. Soaps me up and starts a nice back and shoulder rub. Did not ask for it but enjoyed it a lot and my back is full with knots, she clearly noticed it and spends quite a time kneading those away. I'm actually considering going for the massage option as well. I dry off with a dry decent sized towel. And she has a closet full of clean towels so I like to think every John gets a fresh one. Then I see her pricelist and prices are steep considering the other girls on 141 at this location. FS is at 600 while massage only is at 500. Hmmm guess the massage is off the table did not try to negotiate since I hoped FS would be under 500 like with the other ladies, then I would have tried 600 for massage and FS. I want to keep 100 for dinner later. So FS only it is. After payment she starts a cathbath on me which I like. I finger her, and she starts to get wet again. She wants to give me a CBJ but instead I ask her if I can lick her. She smiles and says yes to my surprise. I put her on her back and suck her nipples and work my way down. Start licking her pussy and she starts to moan loudly. I know guys outside would have heard that. This is no fake moaning like I've experienced a lot with other p4 p girls and when she cums she lifts her lower half violently of the bed, almost ramming her pelvic bone up my nose. She is out of breath and curls up in a fetal position. So I ask for the condom that she still holds in her hand and she just half tosses it to me LOL. I dom up and actually have to roll her on her back again and pry her legs apart. She is not unwilling or anything just out of breath hahaha. I enter her easy, no lube needed since she is really wet. Towel has a nice wet spot (I do hope she changed that for the next guy, sorry man if she didn't) I just go all out, she is not working with or against me, just laying there still breathing heavily, I feel her heartbeat against my chest. And easilly I just blow my load. She has regained some of her senses and stops me from taking of the condom myself and gets some tissues and helps me. Clothes on and I say goodbye. The next John is already outside the door. He actually jumps when he sees this 6. 2 foot guy come out the door. I look back at the door and I still see her eyes look back at me and a big smile and hear her say: bye before she slams the door in the poor guys face. I see him ring the bell but I don't wait to see if she opens again. I like to think she needs to sit down and catch her breath but that's just ego and vanity on my part LOL.

Name: Didi.

Body: 6, big boobs but chubby (really my limit).

Attitude: 8, really nice girl, made me feel welcome and gave me massage in the shower.

Blowjob: Great, it says so on the door and since I did not experience it I just believe the sign.

Damage: 600 HK dollars.

English: 6.

WIR: no, not because of her but because there is still so much out there and before I'm in HK again she has probably moved away already.

Got a lot of flak from one of my coworkers on the trip home, she saw me with the pinay girl on the first day. Shit I need to be more careful. Of course I denied I was with anyone but of course women will be women (and the fact that she is right) she did not believe me, I might have made her doubt a little and I hope it does not bite me in the ass somewhere in the future. (with my luck that can always happen. For instance what are the chances of meeting a girl on tinder that has a seat booked on the flight that I have to work on? I don't know but it happend to me, so all bets are off) I always try to look like I'm alone and the girls follow me meekly to my room or back outside but as much as you try to make them understand that it's important that it looks like we don't know eachother it just surprises me what these girls do when I run into a coworker on my way through the lobby. They will stand right next to you and wait for you to finish your conversation while I told them before that when this happens to just wait outside for me, or at the elevator or go straight up to my room (if they have a key) Or when you ask them to wait 2 minutes and then follow me in and I'm waiting and waiting and I text what's keeping them and they text: I thought you did not want me to come inside. AAARGH wish I could take them to another hotel but that cuts into my budget again while I have access to a great 5 star hotel anyways. Just wish these girls would understand better sometimes.

Cheers.

ALC.

1st one was on Sai Yee Choi in Mongkok. Very pretty, natural be cups with hard nipples great for pinching which she loved. Milfy nympho, fcuked her 15 ways to Sunday. 2nd time was BBFS CIP which I loved hehe.

2nd one was from earlier this year I met in YMT, another BBBJ, fucked her for 30-40 minutes 17 ways to Sunday and I was sweating my ass off LOL. Great tits and smooth ass in her 40's but no babies and nice petite body. She is a freak if the chemistry is right. Both were 400 hkd and I told them next time they are tipping me. They both agreed haha.

PC out.

[QUOTE=Dirk67;1769038]Why would girls go with locals without some consideration? How does time fix this? I guess you're suggesting some of the pro girls will take a liking to the guys and take up more of a FB relationship? Or do you mean locals have more time to work on the non-pros?[/QUOTE]Hi Dirk, that is kind of a funny question. Most people don't look for payment for intimacy. Turning the question around, why do some women look for payment? It is because in that case they are having sex primarily to make money. It is because the guy is not mate material for one reason or another (e. G, he is not attractive, not wealthy, he is married, he is a tourist only available for short time or she does not want a BF).

Lots of the girls in the bars are working in HK and just there for fun and relaxation, and hopeful that they will meet a BF – like in the rest of the world. A big difference in HK is that there are 300 k extra women, like this, working here as DHs with little chance for a normal social or sex life. In this way they are unusually needy. They are just human and want comfort and affection like everyone else. They are also financially needy, which is why they are DHs. So if they meet a guy who is at all attractive it is quite easy to have a non-financially driven relationship.

Most who will go out for pay from this group are opportunistic. They would prefer a BF, or at least a friend with privileges. So if you are local it is a great opportunity for you. On the other hand if you are not local while you might not be a potential BF, you might be able to address her financial need, or for a bit of money speed up the process. These girls can go either way.

Of course there are the mostly-pros. They might be live-out DHs who have discovered a second source of income; but they too are probably on the lookout for a BF.

Or they might be over-stayers. These have lost their original jobs and should have found another job to renew their visas, or else left for home. Instead they are illegals in need of a source of income. If they get caught the will be deported. So they need to make as much as quickly as they can.

Or they might be tourists themselves. Girls from Thailand, China, Vietnam, the Philippines and Indonesia come for "holiday" but work in the bars for their visa's 14 day validity. They need to make as much as they can as fast as they can. They have to earn back their airfare, their boarding house and food and still have a profit to send home. They can exit to China or Macau to get an extra 14 days, but HK Immigration will not let them go on for too long, (unlike prior to around 2008 when they could just keep exiting and returning with unlimited new visas – one of the big causes of change in Wan chai). These girls are most in need and pretty much must charge. If they find a BF, he will be on the side.

So when a local guy walks into a room and surveys the women, he organizes them into working and non-working, and then figures out what he wants tonight. Most locals know lots of the girls. Some as friends. Some as GFs. Some as friends with privileges. Rarely would a local buy a bargirl drink, and even rarer pay for sex.

There are exceptions. If a local wants a specific girl, or something special, he might pay. On the other hand if you met a local who always pays, there is probably something undesirable about him. Remember Rurik Jutting? People tell me he, a local, always paid. Just goes to show you.

So if you want a cool game to play, next time you visit HK make up a story that makes you reasonably local. See how much you can score with out pay!

Sorry Dirk, I thought I was going to write a line or two, but got carried away.

[QUOTE=AirlineCrew;1769137]
Got a lot of flak from one of my coworkers on the trip home, she saw me with the pinay girl on the first day. Shit I need to be more careful.
ALC.[/QUOTE]Brave man!! Taking girls back to the crew hotel. Must be good at making up excuses when your other crew inevitably catch you out.

Next time you are in Hkg, PM me and we can go exploring. Although you are already quite adventurous going into the 141 places. Well done.

I often visit airline staff in their hotels. They are usually open about their adventures.

Will be back in Hong Kong next week and will be staying at the Holiday Inn. I have read reports that there has been a clamp down on the WGs in Hari's Bar. Does anyone know other spots where these girls might move to. Always loved the scene at Hari's but will need to explore other venues. Hoped to meet a lady from Thailand May (Mai) who I have been with in the past.

[QUOTE=Chantik;1771912]I often visit airline staff in their hotels. They are usually open about their adventures.[/QUOTE]Hi Chantik!

Which hotels do you suggest in HK to pickup Airline staff?

[QUOTE=MehediKhan;1772777]Hi Chantik!

Which hotels do you suggest in HK to pickup Airline staff?[/QUOTE]Ha Ha Ha. The airline pay me for naughty times. And pilots are very naughty.

[QUOTE=BrownRail;1771813]
So when a local guy walks into a room and surveys the women, he organizes them into working and non-working, and then figures out what he wants tonight. Most locals know lots of the girls. Some as friends. Some as GFs. Some as friends with privileges. Rarely would a local buy a bargirl drink, and even rarer pay for sex.

There are exceptions. If a local wants a specific girl, or something special, he might pay. On the other hand if you met a local who always pays, there is probably something undesirable about him. Remember Rurik Jutting? People tell me he, a local, always paid. Just goes to show you.

So if you want a cool game to play, next time you visit HK make up a story that makes you reasonably local. See how much you can score with out pay!

Sorry Dirk, I thought I was going to write a line or two, but got carried away.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the detailed explanation of what this means. I guess bottom line is locals don't *explicitly* pay for sex. But just like any relationship, they pay for it somehow, with dates, with gifts, with time, with drama. Still probably much less than the explicit ST or LT arrangement. I might be wrong, but I would guess a local would still offer 500-1000 HK to one of their FWB or treat them out to a similar amount? If not, and the girl just comes for a f* and then leaves, that is truly interesting but I think a bit unfair for the girl if the guy provides zero friendship / emotional fulfillment to the girl.

[QUOTE=BrownRail;1771813]Hi Dirk, that is kind of a funny question. Most people don't look for payment for intimacy. Turning the question around, why do some women look for payment? It is because in that case they are having sex primarily to make money. It is because the guy is not mate material for one reason or another (e. G, he is not attractive, not wealthy, he is married, he is a tourist only available for short time or she does not want a BF).

Lots of the girls in the bars are working in HK and just there for fun and relaxation, and hopeful that they will meet a BF like in the rest of the world. A big difference in HK is that there are 300 k extra women, like this, working here as DHs with little chance for a normal social or sex life. In this way they are unusually needy. They are just human and want comfort and affection like everyone else. They are also financially needy, which is why they are DHs. So if they meet a guy who is at all attractive it is quite easy to have a non-financially driven relationship.

Most who will go out for pay from this group are opportunistic. They would prefer a BF, or at least a friend with privileges. So if you are local it is a great opportunity for you. On the other hand if you are not local while you might not be a potential BF, you might be able to address her financial need, or for a bit of money speed up the process. These girls can go either way.

Of course there are the mostly-pros. They might be live-out DHs who have discovered a second source of income; but they too are probably on the lookout for a BF.

Or they might be over-stayers. These have lost their original jobs and should have found another job to renew their visas, or else left for home. Instead they are illegals in need of a source of income. If they get caught the will be deported. So they need to make as much as quickly as they can.

Or they might be tourists themselves. Girls from Thailand, China, Vietnam, the Philippines and Indonesia come for "holiday" but work in the bars for their visa's 14 day validity. They need to make as much as they can as fast as they can. They have to earn back their airfare, their boarding house and food and still have a profit to send home. They can exit to China or Macau to get an extra 14 days, but HK Immigration will not let them go on for too long, (unlike prior to around 2008 when they could just keep exiting and returning with unlimited new visas one of the big causes of change in Wan chai). These girls are most in need and pretty much must charge. If they find a BF, he will be on the side.

So when a local guy walks into a room and surveys the women, he organizes them into working and non-working, and then figures out what he wants tonight. Most locals know lots of the girls. Some as friends. Some as GFs. Some as friends with privileges. Rarely would a local buy a bargirl drink, and even rarer pay for sex.

There are exceptions. If a local wants a specific girl, or something special, he might pay. On the other hand if you met a local who always pays, there is probably something undesirable about him. Remember Rurik Jutting? People tell me he, a local, always paid. Just goes to show you.

So if you want a cool game to play, next time you visit HK make up a story that makes you reasonably local. See how much you can score with out pay!

Sorry Dirk, I thought I was going to write a line or two, but got carried away.[/QUOTE]And when Brown Rail talks about "locals", he most likely means people who live in HK which can be Chinese from HK as well as foreigners living in HK.

Decided to check out the Wanchai bar scene again since I've only been a couple times before.

Previously only been to Escape really. Other places were dead.

Wanted to see what Hong Kong cafe, but at 1 am on Sat night they were asking $250 HKD entrance (including a drink), which translates to about a $150-170 HKD cover. Went again around 4 pm Sunday and was asked to pay the fee again. Neptune was asking $500HKD... No cover at Escape though. Is this standard?

[QUOTE=Dirk67;1773448]
Wanted to see what Hong Kong cafe, but at 1 am on Sat night they were asking $250 HKD entrance (including a drink), which translates to about a $150-170 HKD cover. Went again around 4 pm Sunday and was asked to pay the fee again. Neptune was asking $500HKD... No cover at Escape though. Is this standard?[/QUOTE]Unfortunately some places charge for non-whites to enter. Discriminatory rules / laws don't apply here. This has been well discussed and commented on in the past. If you are non white, then one way to avoid a charge is go in with a girl or with a crowd of guys and you might get away with it.

Never known Neptune 111 to charge however and as for $500, that is obscene. Maybe a new policy for them.

Hey guys long time no talk. I've got a girlfriend now and she is fantastic in every way and I'm completely loyal to her so I've suspended the hobby for as long as I can hold on to her. Only thing is I can't keep up with her. I'm still relatively young but she can go 3, 4, 5 times a day and often wants to if we have a whole day free like on weekends. But the pops are not immediate, they're spread over the day, we cuddle and talk a lot or have meals in between or whatever.

Can anyone tell me a reliable source for real (not fake) vitamin V or see or L? In your experience, can it help you go multiple times in a day? I was thinking of taking it after 2 pops to be ready for pops 3 and beyond. Is this a good strategy? Is V or see or L better and why?

Any comments and experiences appreciated.

[QUOTE=BrockStar;1746501]I'm assuming it's because the trade is legal..... [/QUOTE]I have read this and other similar statements in the forum. I don't know if those are true. I was in Hong Kong and read an old newspaper article about a vice squad raid in 2 hotels in Kowloon on September 1. They busted up 2 prostitution rings and arrested 24 girls from China along with the two guys who ran the operations. .

[QUOTE=NorthSouth;1773971]I have read this and other similar statements in the forum. I don't know if those are true. I was in Hong Kong and read an old newspaper article about a vice squad raid in 2 hotels in Kowloon on September 1. They busted up 2 prostitution rings and arrested 24 girls from China along with the two guys who ran the operations. .[/QUOTE]The issue vis-a-vis the girls is lack of visa, overstaying visa, or "working" without a proper visa. The guys they get on procuring / pimping.

[QUOTE=JohnnyRocket;1773716]Hey guys long time no talk. I've got a girlfriend now and she is fantastic in every way and I'm completely loyal to her so I've suspended the hobby for as long as I can hold on to her. Only thing is I can't keep up with her. I'm still relatively young but she can go 3, 4, 5 times a day and often wants to if we have a whole day free like on weekends. But the pops are not immediate, they're spread over the day, we cuddle and talk a lot or have meals in between or whatever.

Can anyone tell me a reliable source for real (not fake) vitamin V or see or L? In your experience, can it help you go multiple times in a day? I was thinking of taking it after 2 pops to be ready for pops 3 and beyond. Is this a good strategy? Is V or see or L better and why?

Any comments and experiences appreciated.[/QUOTE]Bought some today at Fanda in Worldwide House in Central. Branded (authentic) was $400 a box of 4. Over the counter, no questions asked. Generic is cheaper. Branded has anti counterfeit stuff on it you can check on Phizer website.

[QUOTE=JohnnyRocket;1773716]
Can anyone tell me a reliable source for real (not fake) vitamin V or see or L? In your experience, can it help you go multiple times in a day? I was thinking of taking it after 2 pops to be ready for pops 3 and beyond. Is this a good strategy? Is V or see or L better and why?

Any comments and experiences appreciated.[/QUOTE]Man Sang Dispensary (2 minutes from Times Sq) in Tin Lok Li at the corner of Wan Chai Road sells genuine Viagra.

[QUOTE=JohnnyRocket;1773716]Hey guys long time no talk. I've got a girlfriend now and she is fantastic in every way and I'm completely loyal to her so I've suspended the hobby for as long as I can hold on to her. Only thing is I can't keep up with her. I'm still relatively young but she can go 3, 4, 5 times a day and often wants to if we have a whole day free like on weekends. But the pops are not immediate, they're spread over the day, we cuddle and talk a lot or have meals in between or whatever.

Can anyone tell me a reliable source for real (not fake) vitamin V or see or L? In your experience, can it help you go multiple times in a day? I was thinking of taking it after 2 pops to be ready for pops 3 and beyond. Is this a good strategy? Is V or see or L better and why?

Any comments and experiences appreciated.[/QUOTE]Don't use personally but would recommend to check with your doctor first. Read it went generic either this or last summer so there should be good generics out there. Less probability of fake if generic.

Heard it works so well sometimes that a visit to the emergency room is required to relieve the stiffness. LOL

[QUOTE=Boarer;1775228]Don't use personally but would recommend to check with your doctor first. Read it went generic either this or last summer so there should be good generics out there. Less probability of fake if generic.

Heard it works so well sometimes that a visit to the emergency room is required to relieve the stiffness. LOL[/QUOTE]That's not funny! As far as I know they have to make an incision in your dick to drain the blood out. :-O.

Thanks everyone for the replies in sources. If anyone has experience on strategy, using it for multiple pops, when to take it, etc that would also be great.

I doubt you need V. Maybe your GF needs to be considerate. And you don't just have to f. To have fun.

[QUOTE=Chantik;1776063]I doubt you need V. Maybe your GF needs to be considerate. And you don't just have to f. To have fun.[/QUOTE]In my experience, if you are with the right girl, V is not necessary for an almost unlimited number of times. If you are with the wrong girl, V is no use. Furthermore a hard on without fun is pain.

[QUOTE=Chantik;1776063]I doubt you need V. Maybe your GF needs to be considerate. And you don't just have to f. To have fun.[/QUOTE]She's being considerate. She's not demanding anything. We have lots of fun apart from fucking! I do appreciate your perspective though.

[QUOTE=Tiger888;1776103]In my experience, if you are with the right girl, V is not necessary for an almost unlimited number of times. If you are with the wrong girl, V is no use. Furthermore a hard on without fun is pain.[/QUOTE]Unlimited? After 3 it takes more work, even though I have the mental and emotional desire and it's still fun. I'm just looking to reduce the refractory period.

There are basically 2 boosters Tadalafil. Most famous brand is Ci. And Sildenafil used in Vi.

Tadalafil is better for your body when used together with alcohol and the half-life is 17 hours compared to Sildenafil with a half-life of 4 hours.

So T lasts much longer (also called the weekender), but I find S gives a little harder result.

You can buy many no names with 100% the same ingredients and I found this place inhousepharmacy. Vu (same as the. Biz ending, but biz is somehow US based, so they stopped shipping abroad) where you can order them, they do ship everything they have.

On offer without any prescription to Hong Kong (at lest the still did so the beginning of 2015), but it takes about 2 weeks to arrive by mail.

The cost is for Sildenafil tablets for big volumes down to 2. 30 USD / tab and for Tadalafil tabs down to 1. 65 USD / tab for BIG volumes.

Tadalafil can help you go several times a day, but how often you can shoot depends on you.

I enjoy it with a little boost, just makes things much more relaxed and personally I do get more fun out of it compared to without. Unless you have the whole weekend in front of you.

It is best not to take a whole tab, try to just take 1/8 or so.

Enjoy the GF!

[QUOTE=JohnnyRocket;1773716]Hey guys long time no talk. I've got a girlfriend now and she is fantastic in every way and I'm completely loyal to her so I've suspended the hobby for as long as I can hold on to her. Only thing is I can't keep up with her. I'm still relatively young but she can go 3, 4, 5 times a day and often wants to if we have a whole day free like on weekends. But the pops are not immediate, they're spread over the day, we cuddle and talk a lot or have meals in between or whatever.

Can anyone tell me a reliable source for real (not fake) vitamin V or see or L? In your experience, can it help you go multiple times in a day? I was thinking of taking it after 2 pops to be ready for pops 3 and beyond. Is this a good strategy? Is V or see or L better and why?

Any comments and experiences appreciated.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JohnnyRocket;1773716]Hey guys long time no talk. {S N I P} Only thing is I can't keep up with her. I'm still relatively young but she can go 3, 4, 5 times a day and often wants to if we have a whole day free like on weekends. {S N I P}
Any comments and experiences appreciated.[/QUOTE]WRT your situation, I suggest that you take a 2.5mg Cialis/Tadalafil tab [B]daily[/B], for play on demand (within reason). A daily dosage of either 2.5mg or 5mg is approved by medical practitioners and also minimises any side effects.

The 2.5mg and 5mg Cialis tabs are difficult to find in the typical Rx shops in HK (the other strengths are commonly available). Best bet is to purchase online, or use a tab cutter on the 10mg tabs.

Cheers,
Ikksman

P.S. Note that Viagra/Sildenafil and Cialis/Tadalafil comes in various strengths - 25mg, 50mg, 100mg, and 2.5mg, 5mg, 10mg, 20mg respectively. This was not mentioned by previous posters.

P.P.S. There are a number of other erection boosters in the market, such as Levitra and Spedra.

[QUOTE=Idler31;1728930]I've written FRs here before about Daily Spa, and seen other FRs, and it's mostly been positive.

But be aware. They just implemented a "stealth" price increase.

Incall used to be HK $2,000/90 minutes. Cunningly, they haven't changed the price shown. But the web site now says HK $2,000/75 minutes. I guess if you're keen to get through the massage to the action at the end, this won't make much difference for you.[/QUOTE]Just came across your post. Just FYI the time you spend in the room at daily is totally up to you to organize, I usually get 15 minutes massage first and the rest after to relax. .

Hmmmm. Wondering if we are witness to a sea-change in mongering activities in Southern China?

Somebody must have done some kind of SWOT analysis to figure out that compared to China, Hong Kong now is attractive for the legions of high-spending PRC businessmen, politicos and others who now no longer can afford to be seen / perceived as high-spending. The deluxe KTV at Coda plaza have been operating very successfully for years, I guess they must have realized the potential and decided to branch out.

After all, Hong Kong is:

-100% safe. Prostitution per se is totally legal and arrests are based only upon breaches to tourists not being allowed to work. Patrons are usually just told to leave.

-Now value for money compared to the ridiculous prices on the mainland.

-Quality proven the article states locals, Mainlanders and Taiwanese, but I am very sure that any nationality / physical attributes can be provided / sourced from the throngs of providers of all nationalities just a couple streets down.

-Renowned for high service standards as opposed to how things are in China.

[URL]http://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/law-crime/article/1859449/62-mainland-chinese-and-taiwanese-prostitutes-arrested-hong[/URL].

[QUOTE]South China Morning Post
62 mainland Chinese and Taiwanese prostitutes arrested as Hong Kong police raid karaoke bar run by triads
PUBLISHED : Friday, 18 September, 2015, 5:57pm

Sixty-two suspected prostitutes were arrested at a karaoke bar in Hong Kongs red-light district last night in an operation one veteran police officer believed was the biggest bust of its kind the city has seen in recent years.
The women, from mainland China and Taiwan, were held along with five Hongkongers. About HK$300,000 in cash was also seized at the three-storey venue on Lockhart Road in Wan Chai, which was previously used as an elderly home. The bar is next to the former Wan Chai police station.
One police source said the sex ring was controlled by the Sun Yee On triad society and generated more than HK$1 million in turnover per month.
According to police, the karaoke bar had been open for business for more than a year, but intelligence indicated the sex ring started its business there about two months ago.
To attract more clients, the gang brought in Taiwanese women to service them, the source said.
Our investigation showed that (in addition to alcohol charges,) clients were charged up to HK$3,000 each to drink and sing with the women.
He said clients were charged up to HK$10,000 each to take a woman for sex in nearby love hotels.
It is understood the karaoke bar only served regular clients and most of them were businessmen from the mainland..[/QUOTE]SEAJ

[QUOTE=JohnnyRocket;1776142]Unlimited? After 3 it takes more work, even though I have the mental and emotional desire and it's still fun. I'm just looking to reduce the refractory period.[/QUOTE]IMHO, 3 is good and nothing to worry about. I would suggest consulting your doctor. (Be careful as if you follow the advice at the bottom, the problem is between your ears) Or a least get a cheap dildo from locations posted here. I have had many ladies ask for and gladly receive a dildo gift for play with and without me.

[QUOTE=Chantik;1776063]I doubt you need V. Maybe your GF needs to be considerate. And you don't just have to f. To have fun.[/QUOTE]JR, I agree with Chantik. Most women are understanding, at least in front of you, and don't want you prepping for a trip in an ambulance or hearse. I had some funny moments when a girl wants to keep going after my release and keep trying to stuff a deflating little J into herself.

[QUOTE=Ikksman;1777100]I suggest that you take a 2.5mg Cialis/Tadalafil tab [B]daily[/B], for play on demand [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Ikksman;1777100]WRT your situation, I suggest that you take a 2.5mg Cialis/Tadalafil tab [B]daily[/B], for play on demand (within reason). A daily dosage of either 2.5mg or 5mg is approved by medical practitioners and also minimises any side effects.

The 2.5mg and 5mg Cialis tabs are difficult to find in the typical Rx shops in HK (the other strengths are commonly available). Best bet is to purchase online, or use a tab cutter on the 10mg tabs.

Cheers,
Ikksman

P.S. Note that Viagra/Sildenafil and Cialis/Tadalafil comes in various strengths - 25mg, 50mg, 100mg, and 2.5mg, 5mg, 10mg, 20mg respectively. This was not mentioned by previous posters.

P.P.S. There are a number of other erection boosters in the market, such as Levitra and Spedra.[/QUOTE]Thanks for your advice. I'm not going to take one daily as on normal days when we are both busy we do it somewhere between 0-2 times and I have no difficulty going once or twice. The potential use of vitamin V would be on completely free days when we decide a whole day indoors would be nice. Especially when the weather is shitty which seems to be most of the time around here lately.

I know this is really a question for a doctor but for a guy who has no problem going 1-2 times and just wants to be able to go later on that day for the 4th or 5th time are we suggesting the small medium or large dose? I'm a fairly big (not really fat) guy if that matters. I think I'll start with the smallest and see what happens. Don't want to get priapism.

[QUOTE=Boarer;1777446]IMHO, 3 is good and nothing to worry about. I would suggest consulting your doctor. (Be careful as if you follow the advice at the bottom, the problem is between your ears) Or a least get a cheap dildo from locations posted here. I have had many ladies ask for and gladly receive a dildo gift for play with and without me.

JR, I agree with Chantik. Most women are understanding, at least in front of you, and don't want you prepping for a trip in an ambulance or hearse. I had some funny moments when a girl wants to keep going after my release and keep trying to stuff a deflating little J into herself.[/QUOTE]I'm with you. I think we are sort of making up for lost time as it took nearly half our life expectancy to find each other. She doesn't dig toys. Sex is practically a religious experience for her and she thinks of toys as interfering with the sacred connection between the two of us. I'm not that into toys either so no big loss.

I may not even use the vitamin V I just want it on hand in case of need.

I suppose I am dense but I didn't get your comment about the problem being between my ears if I were to take a Cialis daily.

Met up with Ashley for a two hour appointment at hotel near the airport. Trouble free arrangements with the agency, Escortgirlshk. She arrived at the appointed time and I enjoyed an excellent 2 hour session. Very pleasing and rewarding experience Her english is excellent and sh has a very pleasing personality. 1500 HK $ for the session including taxi fare. Ashley will be leaving to return to Thailand in October.

Well I don't think Freebies are only for locals, you are right on most of the part and also the amount of DH working in Hk, I have been visiting HK and SZ on very regular bases 4 times past year maybe a bit more, I usually stay at wanchai and have been Enjoying a lot of freebies, well to be frank I am a Singaporean Indian guy, and all the chicks I have met they think I am gud looking but that's them. I am just about avg according to me, But what I have done is I spend a gud amount of time chatting, talking with these girls on sites or skype or wechat. I have met 4 girls till now and ended up in bed with all 4 in about an hours time.

All very nice looking girls, but As a gentleman I took them out for lunch / movie / coffee whatever they wanted. I went to ruby's Tuesday with a chick I spent good amout on food but what happened next was worth it.

I am going to be there in Hk again next month and there are 3 chicks wanting to meet me, I will meet 2 atleast.

I am just saying that having been to so many countries the best place to get freebies for me atleast is HK and Lot of DH, nannies, nurses want gud guys to have fun over the weekend and the guy treating them nicely. Non of the chicks who I am still in touch with asked me for money once.

Its a simple case of Demand vs Supply. Treat them nicely and you will be treated the same way.

[QUOTE=BrownRail;1771813]Hi Dirk, that is kind of a funny question. Most people don't look for payment for intimacy. Turning the question around, why do some women look for payment? It is because in that case they are having sex primarily to make money. It is because the guy is not mate material for one reason or another (e. G, he is not attractive, not wealthy, he is married, he is a tourist only available for short time or she does not want a BF).

Lots of the girls in the bars are working in HK and just there for fun and relaxation, and hopeful that they will meet a BF like in the rest of the world. A big difference in HK is that there are 300 k extra women, like this, working here as DHs with little chance for a normal social or sex life. In this way they are unusually needy. They are just human and want comfort and affection like everyone else. They are also financially needy, which is why they are DHs. So if they meet a guy who is at all attractive it is quite easy to have a non-financially driven relationship.

Most who will go out for pay from this group are opportunistic. They would prefer a BF, or at least a friend with privileges. So if you are local it is a great opportunity for you. On the other hand if you are not local while you might not be a potential BF, you might be able to address her financial need, or for a bit of money speed up the process. These girls can go either way.

Of course there are the mostly-pros. They might be live-out DHs who have discovered a second source of income; but they too are probably on the lookout for a BF.

Or they might be over-stayers. These have lost their original jobs and should have found another job to renew their visas, or else left for home. Instead they are illegals in need of a source of income. If they get caught the will be deported. So they need to make as much as quickly as they can.

Or they might be tourists themselves. Girls from Thailand, China, Vietnam, the Philippines and Indonesia come for "holiday" but work in the bars for their visa's 14 day validity. They need to make as much as they can as fast as they can. They have to earn back their airfare, their boarding house and food and still have a profit to send home. They can exit to China or Macau to get an extra 14 days, but HK Immigration will not let them go on for too long, (unlike prior to around 2008 when they could just keep exiting and returning with unlimited new visas one of the big causes of change in Wan chai). These girls are most in need and pretty much must charge. If they find a BF, he will be on the side.

So when a local guy walks into a room and surveys the women, he organizes them into working and non-working, and then figures out what he wants tonight. Most locals know lots of the girls. Some as friends. Some as GFs. Some as friends with privileges. Rarely would a local buy a bargirl drink, and even rarer pay for sex.

There are exceptions. If a local wants a specific girl, or something special, he might pay. On the other hand if you met a local who always pays, there is probably something undesirable about him. Remember Rurik Jutting? People tell me he, a local, always paid. Just goes to show you.

So if you want a cool game to play, next time you visit HK make up a story that makes you reasonably local. See how much you can score with out pay!

Sorry Dirk, I thought I was going to write a line or two, but got carried away.[/QUOTE]

Personally, I don't think it would be that hard to get freebies from the DH crowd. All it takes is a little effort. My experience with chicks born and raised in PI are that they are quite easy to please and even easier going. Lets face it though, HK is a fast paced city where the mind set of time is money is prevalent. So who has time for effort?

I think the reason for the high prices is that most of the guys simply don't care.

1. They either work in HK and are making a shit-ton and aren't worried about it.

2. They are on holiday and are there to spend money and, once again, aren't worried about it.

3. A lot of guys don't want to feel like they are fucking a hooker and Wan Chai can offer that, where as the walk ups in Kowloon YOU KNOW you are a nothing more than a punter. I believe this is the one that is most over looked. I come from the belief that no sex is free, its a matter of whether you feel like you are paying for it. Some guys prefer to flirt, take time seducing a broad before he gives her money, LOL.

[QUOTE=JohnnyRocket;1777544]I suppose I am dense but I didn't get your comment about the problem being between my ears if I were to take a Cialis daily.[/QUOTE]Wasn't meant to offend. Just saying, get professional advice. It is your life and many men have gone while doing the deed. Not a bad way to go, but make it maybe further down the line.

[QUOTE=Kar2692;1778275]Non of the chicks who I am still in touch with asked me for money once.

Treat them nicely and you will be treated the same way.[/QUOTE]IMHO, better to pay (if you can) to underscore the arrangement. No misunderstanding and no tears.

Was in Hongkong recently and went to New Makati in Wanchai. Got a drink and was listening to the band when I was approached by a nice lady. Her artist name was Lili, she came from Indonesia. She was 1 m55 small, slim, A-cups, long black hair. I guess her age was around end 20.

We had a drink, some small talk for around one hour and as I liked her, asked if she would come to my hotel. She accepted and when I asked how much she wanted, she said "you decide how much you want to give me". So we went to my hotel which was just a short walk away.

We took a shower together and hopped onto the bed.

We started with kissing, then I worked on her nipples what she liked a lot. Then it was time for stimulating her clit and fingering her pussy. She got more and more wet.

Then she asked me to lay on my back, gave me a good blowjob, them licking my balls and my asshole. She went further and put her tongue inside my ass. Great feeling.

After some time, she got on top of me, grabbed my cock and put it inside her tight pussy, all bareback. We did not even talk about condom. So she was riding my cock while I worked again her nipples which were very hard. She rode herself to orgasm (or she is a good actress), her pussy juice was running down my cock.

Then I pounded her in missionary before turning her around and doing her doggystyle. What a great feeling to fuck that wet and tight pussy having her small ass in my hands. I could not resist for long and I shot my load deep inside her pussy.

We went to refresh under the shower, got back into bed and fell asleep.

Around 8 AM, I woke her up and we did a second hot round ending with a second pussy creampie.

We showered, she dressed up and before she left she gave me a long kiss. As I was really happy with her performance, I gave her 1500 HKD, which she seemed to make her happy.

[QUOTE=Boarer;1779136]Wasn't meant to offend. Just saying, get professional advice. It is your life and many men have gone while doing the deed. Not a bad way to go, but make it maybe further down the line.[/QUOTE]No offense taken at all, I just didn't catch your meaning. Hen you say many have died doing the deed, do you mean because of vitamin V / see / L? Or too much, or too intense? I know it happens but I've never heard of a specific case.

[QUOTE=TommySued;1779341]Was in Hongkong recently and went to New Makati in Wanchai. Got a drink and was listening to the band when I was approached by a nice lady. Her artist name was Lili, she came from Indonesia. She was 1 m55 small, slim, A-cups, long black hair. I guess her age was around end 20.

We had a drink, some small talk for around one hour and as I liked her, asked if she would come to my hotel. She accepted and when I asked how much she wanted, she said "you decide how much you want to give me". So we went to my hotel which was just a short walk away.

We took a shower together and hopped onto the bed.

We started with kissing, then I worked on her nipples what she liked a lot. Then it was time for stimulating her clit and fingering her pussy. She got more and more wet.

Then she asked me to lay on my back, gave me a good blowjob, them licking my balls and my asshole. She went further and put her tongue inside my ass. Great feeling..[/QUOTE]Great summary of a night's adventure. Wish more punters could provide such an excellent summary of a night on the town. Keep up the good work Tommy Sued. Sound as though you got value for money here.

[QUOTE=Dirk67;1773448]Decided to check out the Wanchai bar scene again since I've only been a couple times before.

Previously only been to Escape really. Other places were dead.

Wanted to see what Hong Kong cafe, but at 1 am on Sat night they were asking $250 HKD entrance (including a drink), which translates to about a $150-170 HKD cover. Went again around 4 pm Sunday and was asked to pay the fee again. Neptune was asking $500HKD... No cover at Escape though. Is this standard?[/QUOTE]Indeed, stopped by Neptune this past weekend with my mate (we are 2 Asians), the dude wanted HK $500. I told him "have a nice day".

[QUOTE=Kar2692;1778275]Well I don't think Freebies are only for locals, you are right on most of the part and also the amount of DH working in Hk, I have been visiting HK and SZ on very regular bases 4 times past year maybe a bit more, I usually stay at wanchai and have been Enjoying a lot of freebies, well to be frank I am a Singaporean Indian guy, and all the chicks I have met they think I am gud looking but that's them. I am just about avg according to me, But what I have done is I spend a gud amount of time chatting, talking with these girls on sites or skype or wechat. I have met 4 girls till now and ended up in bed with all 4 in about an hours time.[/QUOTE]Yes Kar, I think you have got HK exactly. Make a small effort, threat them like the GF experience you yourself want, and you will be rewarded with a terrific time.

I wish you the best travels here.

[QUOTE=Boarer;1779138]IMHO, better to pay (if you can) to underscore the arrangement. No misunderstanding and no tears.[/QUOTE]I get your point Boarer. You are going to pay regardless. And misunderstandings are best avoided. I guess the question is what is the "arrangement".

If the arrangement is PFP, then yes, of course pay. But HK offers so much more than that. You can go to 141, or pay a working girl in Makati, HK Cafe, Escape, Neptune III, etc. There the commercial arrangement is clear.

But giving money to girls who did not expect it is a pleasant surprise at best, at worst it is insulting, rude, unnecessary. Not to mention the old argument about teaching them to hook. And I have seen that there is some truth to that. And the mixing of the pros with the out for fun girls in the same bars adds to the confusion.

HK offers different experiences. While there are lots of commercial offerings, there are also a large number of women who just want a nice guy, not be be bought. And the meeting, dating and opening are just. Fun.

[QUOTE=JohnnyRocket;1779441]No offense taken at all, I just didn't catch your meaning. Hen you say many have died doing the deed, do you mean because of vitamin V / see / L? Or too much, or too intense? I know it happens but I've never heard of a specific case.[/QUOTE]I know of one: Nelson Rockefeller. Not drugs, but heart attack doing is GF: [URL]http://www.reformation.org/megan-marshak.html[/URL].

Never heard of one specifically connected to chemistry.

[QUOTE=PeterPowers99;1780482]Great summary of a night's adventure. Wish more punters could provide such an excellent summary of a night on the town. Keep up the good work Tommy Sued. Sound as though you got value for money here.[/QUOTE]I was also enjoying the story. But is there a band at New Makati? Don't think so.

Paying is often more convenient for partnered men who want to keep a secret. It's usually a safer option and cuts down UNWANTED calls etc, though its not 100% safe. Also partnered men have a lot to lose if found out by their partner.

[QUOTE=BrownRail;1780636]But is there a band at New Makati? Don't think so.[/QUOTE]Have you been there on the same night?

There was a band playing live music on that particular night.

Is this new or was it a special that night? I don't know.

So far it was my first visit there. Will be back in HKG in a few weeks.

[QUOTE=JohnnyRocket;1779441]No offense taken at all, I just didn't catch your meaning. Hen you say many have died doing the deed, do you mean because of vitamin V / see / L? Or too much, or too intense? I know it happens but I've never heard of a specific case.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=BrownRail;1780565]I know of one: Nelson Rockefeller. Not drugs, but heart attack doing is GF: [URL]http://www.reformation.org/megan-marshak.html[/URL].

Never heard of one specifically connected to chemistry.[/QUOTE]If you believe what you read, there was a SCMP article recently about research indicating that people don't die while having or immediately after sex.

[QUOTE=BrownRail;1780505]HK offers different experiences. While there are lots of commercial offerings, there are also a large number of women who just want a nice guy, not be be bought. And the meeting, dating and opening are just. Fun.[/QUOTE]IMHO, I just pay to keep things simple and enjoyable for me. Even the offended ones come back. LOL.

But seriously, most are in need of money or are in HK to make money, so the stars kind of align.

I was in HK for a few days and decided to try saunas not to far from my hotel in TST. I went to Kobe Sauna, which is in the basement of the Regal Kowloon Hotel on Mody Road. I thought the price was steep at $2000.00. The woman at the front door said I would get full service for this. On entering staff are attentive and really take care of you. After waiting in the comfortable lounge I was shown to a room where an attractive girl in her twenties awaited. A good massage was given followed by a good sensuous massage and good hand job. I waited for her to complete the job but she showed no advance on the hand job. I asked her if she would get on top but she said I was to big and she could not. Her entire body posture indicated that she did not want me to touch her pussy or tits. This was not a full service. Although the things that she did do were good this was a disappointing start and not worth the money. A couple of days later I tried Sunny Island Sauna at Podium Plaza, 5 Hanoi Road, Tsimshatsui. I entered the lifts direct from the street and got off at the next floor up. The price was a more reasonable $850 for full service and 90 minutes. I received the same kind of attentive service as before and was shown to a similar comfortable lounge. I was shown to a room where an attractive girl in her twenties awaited. I thought my luck was in but 5 minutes into the massage the manager took the girl away because a regular customer had asked for her. A new girl arrived about 30+, nice legs and acceptable. Good enthusiastic massage and no problem with full service to completion. I did not even have to ask. I got the full time except for her leaving the room a couple of times to get some things. A couple of days later I repeated the exercise. Similar result, but the massage was a little more tired and when I worked it out I thought I had had 60 minutes service. This allows for leaving the room and finishing a little early. This was much better value for money, I enjoyed the experience. The staff were happy to receive a foreigner although the other customers were all Chinese by appearance. Was really close to the hotel that I was staying in.

[QUOTE=WarmStone25;1781569]I was in HK for a few days and decided to try saunas not to far from my hotel in TST. I went to Kobe Sauna, which is in the basement of the Regal Kowloon Hotel on Mody Road. I thought the price was steep at $2000.00. The woman at the front door said I would get full service for this. On entering staff are attentive and really take care of you. After waiting in the comfortable lounge I was shown to a room where an attractive girl in her twenties awaited. A good massage was given followed by a good sensuous massage and good hand job. I waited for her to complete the job but she showed no advance on the hand job. I asked her if she would get on top but she said I was to big and she could not. Her entire body posture indicated that she did not want me to touch her pussy or tits. This was not a full service. Although the things that she did do were good this was a disappointing start and not worth the money. A couple of days later I tried Sunny Island Sauna at Podium Plaza, 5 Hanoi Road, Tsimshatsui. I entered the lifts direct from the street and got off at the next floor up. The price was a more reasonable $850 for full service and 90 minutes. I received the same kind of attentive service as before and was shown to a similar comfortable lounge. I was shown to a room where an attractive girl in her twenties awaited. I thought my luck was in but 5 minutes into the massage the manager took the girl away because a regular customer had asked for her. A new girl arrived about 30+, nice legs and acceptable. Good enthusiastic massage and no problem with full service to completion. I did not even have to ask. I got the full time except for her leaving the room a couple of times to get some things. A couple of days later I repeated the exercise. Similar result, but the massage was a little more tired and when I worked it out I thought I had had 60 minutes service. This allows for leaving the room and finishing a little early. This was much better value for money, I enjoyed the experience. The staff were happy to receive a foreigner although the other customers were all Chinese by appearance. Was really close to the hotel that I was staying in.[/QUOTE]Hi there!

What was the price for FS in the second sauna? Did you egt BBBJ? Will be there in 10 days, thanks for info!

[QUOTE=Gannaton48;1781585]Hi there!

What was the price for FS in the second sauna? Did you egt BBBJ? Will be there in 10 days, thanks for info![/QUOTE]As stated the price was 850 HKD for 90 minutes. Everything was covered. Did not ask for BBBJ.

You should allow for another 20 HKD. You are expected to put this in the box in the changing room as a tip for the staff.

[QUOTE=TommySued;1779341]Was in Hongkong recently and went to New Makati in Wanchai. Got a drink and was listening to the band when I was approached by a nice lady. Her artist name was Lili, she came from Indonesia. She was 1 m55 small, slim, A-cups, long black hair. I guess her age was around end 20.

We had a drink, some small talk for around one hour and as I liked her, asked if she would come to my hotel. She accepted and when I asked how much she wanted, she said "you decide how much you want to give me". So we went to my hotel which was just a short walk away.

We took a shower together and hopped onto the bed.

We started with kissing, then I worked on her nipples what she liked a lot. Then it was time for stimulating her clit and fingering her pussy. She got more and more wet.

Then she asked me to lay on my back, gave me a good blowjob, them licking my balls and my asshole. She went further and put her tongue inside my ass. Great feeling.

After some time, she got on top of me, grabbed my cock and put it inside her tight pussy, all bareback. We did not even talk about condom. So she was riding my cock while I worked again her nipples which were very hard. She rode herself to orgasm (or she is a good actress), her pussy juice was running down my cock.

Then I pounded her in missionary before turning her around and doing her doggystyle. What a great feeling to fuck that wet and tight pussy having her small ass in my hands. I could not resist for long and I shot my load deep inside her pussy.

We went to refresh under the shower, got back into bed and fell asleep.

Around 8 AM, I woke her up and we did a second hot round ending with a second pussy creampie.

We showered, she dressed up and before she left she gave me a long kiss. As I was really happy with her performance, I gave her 1500 HKD, which she seemed to make her happy.[/QUOTE]Giving women money, Makes them happy, dunno why that is LOL.

PC out.

[QUOTE=WarmStone25;1781634]As stated the price was 850 HKD for 90 minutes. Everything was covered. Did not ask for BBBJ.

You should allow for another 20 HKD. You are expected to put this in the box in the changing room as a tip for the staff.[/QUOTE]That's a good bit cheaper than spending a fortune in the Wan Chai bars on drinks etc and then paying the WG rate of at least $1000 - $1500 for ST.

Might just try that on my visit next month.

[QUOTE=Somewhere15;1742293]I only have similar experience in Bangkok, and I act more or less like your bud and also have the stand I don't pay for sex.

In Bangkok and over the years I have a handfull off working girls who are fine with this.

Probably you can look also different to this: if the girl don't go out she stays the whole day at her room and watching tv.

No other social contacts, by having a Farang who great her well and give attention to here she is willing to have sex with them.

Many of these girls even enjoy the sex too.

My experience and there are always people who immediately say "cheap charly" or similar but I just have time and switchend some years ago from pickimg up girls from a disco and pay them a lot with also the risk that back in the room she turnster out not the most willing person you thaumaturg she was before.

My standard for a DIA or ThaiFriendly contact which I use in Bangkok is always, meet in a public place like a shopping mall and around eating time.[/QUOTE]They are not happy because you are with holding money that will go t their families. The fact is they have enough pride not to ask and you don't have enough class to offer.

You think they are staying in their rooms watching tv. Just happy to be on a date with a farang? Keep dreaming. Most of these tv. Girls have online accounts (wechat etc.) whereby they offer services for money.

A date might seem like you are doing them a favour but resting in a room in front of a tv. With the potential for a paying client is more preferably then dating a cheap charley with no chance of compensation.

The girls you talk about are either desperate for affection and the hope of a relationship or they are playing the game in the hope of money in the morning, giving you the benefit of the doubt.

I know lots of people who use this tactic and the fact is you guys just don't have any respect for them or any understanding of their circumstances. Go to their villages and see how they live, this will change your mind.

To be honest I have done similar. I dated a barmaid from a bar in A / C. Had a nice dinner, great sex, took her home in the morning and never gave her a peso. When I mentioned it to a girl I took out of a bar she was absolutely.

Shocked at my behavior. She couldn't believe it. After the shock, she called me charlie the rest of the night and joked about how I already paid the mamasan so she was a lucky girl! In the morning she joked that she won't ask.

For tip because I might get heart attack to give her money.

Honestly, no matter how good looking you are or how much you spend on dinner, almost all Asian working girls are poor and need money to support the intricate network of family they belong to.

Unless you are dating them and in a mutually gratifying (gift giving) relationship you should give them money. Its as simple as that.

Dear mongers,

I plan to visit Hong Kong in Nov 1st week. Are there any places to pick up Russians in Hong Kong. Apologies If it is a repeat question for the forum.

Thanks

Hi,

I have gone through the forum posts and HK does look like a promising place. The only problem is that I will be there only for a day and that too starting a Monday -means I will miss the Sunday fun.

Given the less time, I am looking for an easy way out. Can someone let me know if there are reputed agencies that I can go with? I am looking for someone young and GFE. Are there sites where trusted independents advertise? Are BP and CL / locanto safe to go with?

Thanks a lot for the help.

[QUOTE=Robinsmart;1782871]Dear mongers,

I plan to visit Hong Kong in Nov 1st week. Are there any places to pick up Russians in Hong Kong. Apologies If it is a repeat question for the forum.

Thanks[/QUOTE]When in Rome, fuck Romans, when in HK fuck indentured Pinoy, Indo, Malay or Chinese so why don't you go to Russia to fuck Ruskie women? Like going to candy store to buy beef jerky.

JMHO or course.

PC out.

Yeah, I always scratch my head at guys who go to ASIA looking for white women and why must they always be Russian? Or is Russian, just slang for white prostitute? LOL.

HK still, technically, being a part of China means that Chinese is the way to go. The supply is in abundance and it's very affordable. I love the Indos and Pinays, but I save them for Angeles and Jakarta where (once again) the supply is there and extremely affordable.

If you really want white women in ASIA, Singapore or Dubai would be your best bet. Well, OK and I guess the two go-go bars in Pattaya on Walking Street count as well. In all three locations you're going to have to pay to dollar for them. I can say from personal experience that most of the white women you see on the P4P scene in Asia have only two things going for them, they're white, available and not much else. I assume he's Asian, Middle Eastern or Indian and if that's the case anything white will do. But seriously, if you want top notch white talent, go to Europe not only will it be (A lot) cheaper, but you will have way more to choose from.

[QUOTE=BrockStar;1783556]Yeah, I always scratch my head at guys who go to ASIA looking for white women and why must they always be Russian? Or is Russian, just slang for white prostitute? LOL.

HK still, technically, being a part of China means that Chinese is the way to go. The supply is in abundance and it's very affordable. I love the Indos and Pinays, but I save them for Angeles and Jakarta where (once again) the supply is there and extremely affordable.

If you really want white women in ASIA, Singapore or Dubai would be your best bet. Well, OK and I guess the two go-go bars in Pattaya on Walking Street count as well. In all three locations you're going to have to pay to dollar for them. I can say from personal experience that most of the white women you see on the P4P scene in Asia have only two things going for them, they're white, available and not much else. I assume he's Asian, Middle Eastern or Indian and if that's the case anything white will do. But seriously, if you want top notch white talent, go to Europe not only will it be (A lot) cheaper, but you will have way more to choose from.[/QUOTE]I live in Singapore and have access to Asians for P4P readily available. So always look for Russians / other white women. Agree with you Europe is the place to seek white women. Was in London last year and tried few English girls and they were all great, though a bit more expensive than Hungarians / Romanian / Polish. Best thing is the deal is pretty transparent and you get everything they put in there profile. Can't go to Europe every day, so I look for white women in Asia. Is there any reliable escorts I can reach out to for Russian women in HK.

Thanks again,

[QUOTE=IAmKaran;1783395]Hi,

I have gone through the forum posts and HK does look like a promising place. The only problem is that I will be there only for a day and that too starting a Monday -means I will miss the Sunday fun.

Given the less time, I am looking for an easy way out. Can someone let me know if there are reputed agencies that I can go with? I am looking for someone young and GFE. Are there sites where trusted independents advertise? Are BP and CL / locanto safe to go with?

Thanks a lot for the help.[/QUOTE]Look at Chantik's posts. She seems to be a professional escort, and knows lots. And if I were in your shoes, with only one day to play, I would take her out.

Good luck!

[QUOTE=CharlieShine;1782233]Unless you are dating them and in a mutually gratifying (gift giving) relationship you should give them money. Its as simple as that.[/QUOTE]I got to say that I don't agree with you. If you are in Angeles or Pattaya, and you pick up a girl in a bar. Dancer, GRO, cashier or janitor. Of course you pay. The girls came to those cities to be sex-workers and expect to be paid for doing that. If you make them work but don't pay, you are shoplifting. But that is not Hong Kong.

If you meet a girl online before you come to HK, she will let you know in clear terms if she expects to be paid. If it is the case, mostly you can see that in their profiles. I think this is a minority of girls you will meet online, but it happens to me from time-to-time.

If you are in LKF or Wanchai on a week night and meet a girl in a bar, there is a greater than 50/50 chance she is not working (except the street-level bars where they are all working). Pretty much any girl with her whits about her will let you know before leaving the bar that she wants to be paid; she does not want to waste her time either.

On a weekend the odds the girl you meet is working drops to about 10%, so many girls are just on their off-day. To be sure, some girls on the off days also want to earn. This is especially common with Indonesians in Neptune III, Players and Bar 109. But they too will tell you straight up "how much you pay".

So it pays to be a gentleman. Be nice to them. Give them a "BF-experience. " Bring gifts from home to surprise them: t-shirts, teddy bears, perfume? Give them nice dinners, buy treats. All these are good. But, in HK, paying a non-working girl reflects badly on you and can be insulting to her.

As Chantik says, there are times you want P4P. Maybe you are in a hurry. Maybe there is a particular girl you want and she is a pro. Maybe you want the confidence that it is a commercial transaction and she will leave quietly when done.

But the odds are that you will meet lots of non-working girls in HK, so treat them well.

Good summary, Brown Rail. "To be sure, some girls on the off days also want to earn. This is especially common with Indonesians in Neptune III, Players and Bar 109. But they too will tell you straight up 'how much you pay' ". This matches my (very limited) experience. Two years ago I met an Indo DH hottie in New Makati on a Sunday (yes, before all the mess last year). Good vibes on the dance floor and chatting over drinks. When I popped the question she was game but said "you understand I can't go for free". I offered 700 HKD for 3 hours, went to the Eden (recommend!) and had a top, top tier GFE. Five minutes in the room and she had already nearly sucked my tongue out of my mouth. In the downtime told me all about her "sir" (elderly, handicapped employer) but no sob story. All in all, a good time.

[QUOTE=UglyOne;1784461]Good summary, Brown Rail. "To be sure, some girls on the off days also want to earn. This is especially common with Indonesians in Neptune III, Players and Bar 109. But they too will tell you straight up 'how much you pay' ". This matches my (very limited) experience. Two years ago I met an Indo DH hottie in New Makati on a Sunday (yes, before all the mess last year). Good vibes on the dance floor and chatting over drinks. When I popped the question she was game but said "you understand I can't go for free". I offered 700 HKD for 3 hours, went to the Eden (recommend!) and had a top, top tier GFE. Five minutes in the room and she had already nearly sucked my tongue out of my mouth. In the downtime told me all about her "sir" (elderly, handicapped employer) but no sob story. All in all, a good time.[/QUOTE]Sounds great. Yes Makati varies a lot. On Saturday night and Sunday it is probably 50% not working 35% go either way and 15% pure working. They want to see a bar girl drink upfront. On these days the pure working girls must be a bit frustrated. But when the not working girls are slow to move and teasing, the workers can be quick to offer a solution to a now horny guy. The other days it is probably 50% working 25% either way. I get sad when I see the working girls who get really hard. They look so board and unhappy, then they see a prospect and begin the act. This is a minority though. Most seem really to enjoy the freedom their job provides.

HKD700 sounds like quite a good price. She sounds like one who is not a pro. Just in need of a "top up".

I have never been to Eden. I heard it is quite good. Did you stay there over night or short time? How was it?

[QUOTE=BrownRail;1784892] I have never been to Eden. I heard it is quite good. Did you stay there over night or short time? How was it? [/QUOTE]BrownRail,

I stayed only short time, recall there were 2-hour and 3-hour options. It is my only experience with a short time hotel, but having RTFF it seems to be on the nicer end of the spectrum. Very simple but clean, and at least a chair and also room to walk around the bed. I also like the idea of taking a short taxi ride. Waiting in line for the taxi is like waiting in line at Disneyland, holding an "E" ticket (yes, this shows my age) {translation for some. Rides with E tickets are (were) the wildest, worth waiting in line}. Build some anticipation. Back to the Eden, do note I booked a Superior Room and not a Deluxe room; was scared of a Deluxe (bottom tier) room because I once stayed for a week at Mingle on the Wing in either a Lite or Single room and it was bad really bad. Would like to try the VIP or Super-VIP at Eden sometime don't know price because need to call for price of those rooms (were booked when I was at Eden, and did not think to ask about price).

Am looking forward to Halloween and some days after, will be my fourth trip to HK so still a newb by most standards.

Ugly One.

Nights are working girl time in Wanchai. Has been this way for a hundred years. You can get the odd lady (and I mean odd) who is not working as such, though this doesn't last for long. Friday night and Saturday night you get the party girls (usually have partners and partners are normally there) who like to have a good time with their friends. Though I've bumped into a a couple at Victoria Hotel. Ouch!

Makati is lucky to have 50 people from Mon to Thur night and sometimes gets around a hundred on Fri and Sat night. Like most bars in Wanchai it is quiet. The only bar that consistently gets good crowds is Escape and probably Amazonia. My guess is that business in the bars is down by 40 to 50% compared to 2010.

500 is the still the standard DH price on a Sat or Sun if guys shop around, though some DH ask for more.

Back in 2013 Chantik reported on a Makati Halloween party that was invitation only. Is this a trend with the Wan Chai clubs for Halloween, or simply a one-off at Makati? Just doing some planning.

As a regular traveller to HK knowing the WC and DHs scene I always try to fly in on Saturdays with a plan to party not too much that night😉 However this time came already Friday.

NM my favorite old Place still ok but only cause I Know the Girls and waitresses somehow. Good fun with my regular from last time. We headed later to HKC, met other Friends, partied all Night in the Bar, bed, bathroom, Front of the Window, almost everywhere. Totally drunk. She and me. Same story next day, so that was it with my initial Plan. Nevertheless managed to get up on Sunday at least at 1 pm, headed straight to Bar109. Instantly got girl hands on my balls, but girls not of my taste this time. Went back and forth between 109 and P's. Finally at 6. 30 pm went to Nept3, saw a cutie at the Bar. Bought a drink and a Shot- as return got deep kisses. The rest Remains Secret. Sunday still works great. And she will be my new number one DH here. BTW: Damage for the girl the nights before 100 USD per Night. Cause I know her👍.

[QUOTE=WarmStone25;1781634]As stated the price was 850 HKD for 90 minutes. Everything was covered. Did not ask for BBBJ.

You should allow for another 20 HKD. You are expected to put this in the box in the changing room as a tip for the staff.[/QUOTE]I visited the Island Sauna last night. I was assigned QQ (or number 99). She was tall, thin and had implants. Not what I would have chosen but not unpleasant. You take the lift up to the first floor and are immediately at reception. They direct you to the all male locker room (you pay upon leaving) and have you strip down. The man will then give you a towel and shower shoes. There's also a sauna but I didn't use it. After the shower the same person who gave you the towel will give you a robe and direct you to the host. He leads you to the massage room where your girl will shortly join you. QQ gave a passable 40 minute massage and then left (to wash up, I assume). When she came back she stripped and started to get into it. She started by licking and sucking very nicely (BBBJ) and then put on the cover. There was a little DATY (OK, a lot) and then mish followed by doggy (curiously enough she produced a stool that she knelt on for this). I followed WarmStone25's advice and tipped 20 to the towel guys and paid $866 for the service. I'm not sure why I paid the $16 more but it wasn't an issue. I had asked if this was for 90 minutes and was told it was. I don't know if I could have chosen a shorter time as I was interested in the 90 minutes. Good Luck.

I am surprised that Gents purchase a service without choosing the lady. Strange.

[QUOTE=Traveler1234;1710901]Two general and polite comments:

1. Most hotels are GF, as long as they don't dress like a WG.

2. Why HK for 100% mongering trip? Better venues: Bkk / Thailand, Philippines, even Indonesia.

For more in depth FR, look at Natty Bumpo's numerous posts on his escapades to HK and the above three countries.[/QUOTE]Kinda of late reply but hey I only got the chance to visit Manila and Indonesia recently. I'm especially impressed by the beauty of Indo girls. They might as well be the prettiest girls in Asia. I thought they'd be conservative but boy was I wrong. Angels with Devil's eyes and devils souls. Pinays are pinays. Totally random girls, living by the day, but I like them usually. AC is WanChai on steroids.

Also easier to go BBFS (including CIP) if that's your thing.

Must say however than it is way easier to plan and execute a business trip with benefits in HK than in Jakarta or Manila / AC.

[QUOTE=Chantik;1787495]I am surprised that Gents purchase a service without choosing the lady. Strange.[/QUOTE]I think that this is because I was new to the place. Each of the girls made a point of giving me their name and number so that I could ask for them next time. On my first visit the girl to whom I was assigned was taken away because a regular customer requested her. So it appears that you can get to know who your favourites are and request them.

[QUOTE=Chantik;1785105]Nights are working girl time in Wanchai. Has been this way for a hundred years. You can get the odd lady (and I mean odd) who is not working as such, though this doesn't last for long. Friday night and Saturday night you get the party girls (usually have partners and partners are normally there) who like to have a good time with their friends. Though I've bumped into a a couple at Victoria Hotel. Ouch!

Makati is lucky to have 50 people from Mon to Thur night and sometimes gets around a hundred on Fri and Sat night. Like most bars in Wanchai it is quiet. The only bar that consistently gets good crowds is Escape and probably Amazonia. My guess is that business in the bars is down by 40 to 50% compared to 2010.

500 is the still the standard DH price on a Sat or Sun if guys shop around, though some DH ask for more.[/QUOTE]I don't get to HK often enough to really see the trends, but what you are saying fits my few experiences the past few years. Why is business in WC down so much? Is it the supply or the demand? Visa problems on the supply end? I've been midweek to Escape, and while there were still a lot of people, the quality of girls was not what it used to be.

[QUOTE=UglyOne;1785344]Back in 2013 Chantik reported on a Makati Halloween party that was invitation only. Is this a trend with the Wan Chai clubs for Halloween, or simply a one-off at Makati? Just doing some planning.[/QUOTE]Just go into the club and ask the manager nicely for an invitation. He will give it to you.

[QUOTE=FiftyShades;1788021]I don't get to HK often enough to really see the trends, but what you are saying fits my few experiences the past few years. Why is business in WC down so much? Is it the supply or the demand? Visa problems on the supply end? I've been midweek to Escape, and while there were still a lot of people, the quality of girls was not what it used to be.[/QUOTE]Two main reasons.

1) Harder for Phillipine ladies to get visas to HK and to renew their visa's.

2) Indonesian refugee ladies had their applications rejected and have left HK.

Apparently Immigration and the Indonesian Consulate will have a combined sweep of Wanchai bars searching for overstaying Indonesian's in the next few weeks.

Fifty shades.

Forgot to add that more ladies (inc Indonesians) prefer to escort from an online setting. Saves you having to go to bars (which many dislike), its more efficient and you can do it from home.

Just a quick update.

Went to Wanchai last week Wednesday with some customers during the HK Electronic show.

Things started to get interesting after midnight. Carnegies had ladies night with people spilling onto the road probably 98% non pro, but lots of drunk ladies.

HK Cafe was a bit quiet that night, but I spotted some nice Indo ladies. Probably was there a bit too early.

Escape was heaving with talent! I had not seen it that well stocked in a while. Picked a phone number from an African beauty in front of Escape, her name is Victoria. Met her a few days later.

1. 5 K for 1. 5 h could have probably got her down to around 1-1. 2 K with a bit of haggling. She was probably 28-29, very skinny, nice but bit saggy tits and a fantastic butt!

Service was OKish, should have been more enthusiastic for what I paid and she was not very much into doggy. Would not repeat, sadly. She had a real nice butt!

[QUOTE=Mvulane;1787526]Also easier to go BBFS (including CIP) if that's your thing..[/QUOTE]I recently met a lady who wanted to do BBFS, but I like to get them tested before doing this. Does anyone know where in HK you can buy oraquick or similar test kits?

Any leads would be very much appreciated!

[QUOTE=PopeFrancis;1789576]I recently met a lady who wanted to do BBFS, but I like to get them tested before doing this. Does anyone know where in HK you can buy oraquick or similar test kits?

Any leads would be very much appreciated![/QUOTE]First resist the temptation, IMHO.

Secondly, Google is your friend. Someone asked this question a while ago it looks like it is available at regular places mentioned before in HK. Otherwise, get it at CVS before your trip.

My two cents.

Apparently the manager of The Dog House has passed away. He was prevously at Bulldog.

[QUOTE=Chantik;1790492]Apparently the manager of The Dog House has passed away. He was prevously at Bulldog.[/QUOTE]Yes, massive heart attack.

RIP, Paul.

I've been to Hong Kong many times and tried most of the local options. Having read about the walk-ups here, I thought I would give that a try this time. I visited a number of the operations – James Lee Mansion, Fuji Building, 61 Pilkem Street and 66 Parkes Street. Seeing all the "Busy" signs and guys standing there waiting to be next just didn't do it for me. I didn't want to be the "next in line". How great could it be when you are just one of a string of customers that day?

So I ended up back in Wan Chai. I have had good experiences there in the past with the Domestic Helpers. What you get with a DH is someone who is horny and looking for fun – just like you. And they make a little money on the side. If you click with the girl, you get that GFE you want.

I was up early and walked along Lockhart Street. I was surprised that at 7:30 am on a Sunday morning people were still spilling out of bars and that the street walkers were still out hitting up passers-by.

Around noon I walked over to Bar 109. You could hear it from quite a ways away. It was heaving! I walked in and stopped by the front door to let my eyes get accustomed to the dark. Almost immediately I was approached by a woman. She called her friend over and then another friend. She wanted 300 USD for the three of them.

I'm not into the logistics and scheduling required to handle more than one woman, so I declined. They didn't want to take no for an answer. The last of the three was definitely the cutest, so I told them I wanted just one and pointed to the girl I wanted. We agreed on 1000 and were out the door.

The girl was from the Philippines, in her late twenties and very cute. Back at the hotel she was kissing me in the elevator – a good sign. And in the room there was a lot of DFK. She told me that she was very horny – and proved it! We had a great, unrushed session.

Although it was more expensive than a 1-4-1 walk-up, I would rather have a passionate DH encounter than a mechanical one from the 1-4-1 girls any day.

[QUOTE=RedRider;1791685]...we agreed on 1000 and were out the door...[/QUOTE]I am sure with just a little bit more of patience you could have had that for half of that.

[QUOTE=UncleGoober2;1790640]Yes, massive heart attack.

RIP, Paul.[/QUOTE]Honestly, not a bad way to go. Had a "widow maker" while awake on the table for a medical procedure. A moment of confusion. "I don't know WTF you're doing, but that really fucking hurts!" Then nothing. Had I not been in surgery already, would've been gone.

"I am sure with just a little bit more of patience you could have had that for half of that. ".

Actually I tried for 500 and the three of them made faces and turned to leave. The noise level of Bar 109 was so loud that it was nearly impossible to communicate. So I cut my losses and agreed to their price.

[QUOTE=RedRider;1791989]"I am sure with just a little bit more of patience you could have had that for half of that. ".

Actually I tried for 500 and the three of them made faces and turned to leave. The noise level of Bar 109 was so loud that it was nearly impossible to communicate. So I cut my losses and agreed to their price.[/QUOTE]Fair enough.

[QUOTE=Tiger888;1791738]I am sure with just a little bit more of patience you could have had that for half of that.[/QUOTE]That's about 800 HK. It seems like a decent price, especially if she hung around your hotel.

Onto other matters. So QV has the lease for the departed OCH. Bar will be called Churchill once the liquor licence is approved later this year. Guessing it will be a completely different bar to QV.

[QUOTE=Chantik;1792262]That's about 800 HK. It seems like a decent price, especially if she hung around your hotel.[/QUOTE]This, their first offer was 100 US each which = 775 HKD.

In front of each other they may not agree to 500 HKD, but I bet if you would have taken the time to chat her one on one, she would have.

Of course, I hate negotiations too.

I have exactly the same question. How reliable or authentic are the BP or CL listings and escort agency websites? Interested in these since I would prefer the chick to directly visit me in hotel room.

[QUOTE=IAmKaran;1783395]Hi,

I have gone through the forum posts and HK does look like a promising place. The only problem is that I will be there only for a day and that too starting a Monday -means I will miss the Sunday fun.

Given the less time, I am looking for an easy way out. Can someone let me know if there are reputed agencies that I can go with? I am looking for someone young and GFE. Are there sites where trusted independents advertise? Are BP and CL / locanto safe to go with?

Thanks a lot for the help.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MutantBond;1792555]I have exactly the same question. How reliable or authentic are the BP or CL listings and escort agency websites? Interested in these since I would prefer the chick to directly visit me in hotel room.[/QUOTE]IMHO, you could try PMing the person below as the person might have insider knowledge. Or Google.

[QUOTE=Chantik;1792262]That's about 800 HK. It seems like a decent price, especially if she hung around your hotel.[/QUOTE]

Headed off to Wanchai about 1:00 pm on Sunday and decided to have lunch and a leisurely couple of pints at the Queen Victoria before hitting the clubs. Was sat eating at a table near the bar when I caught the eye of a cute (to me) older lady (looked around 35 years old) who indicated she was interested to come over and chat. I invited her over and bought her an ice-lemon tea (her choice) and carried on eating and talking. Surprisingly the conversation was more than the usual, "Where you from?, How old are you?, What's your name?" routine. As I half expected, she turned out to be a domestic helper (Indonesian) on her day off and after a couple more drinks and hour or so of pleasant conversation it became obvious we were heading for something else.

We decamped to the Hotel Victoria on Lockhart Road and in the three hours that we were there she rocked my boat completely. Slim, sexy body, admittedly not pristine looking like an 18-20 year old, but very well cared for with no kids, which suited me down to the ground as I often prefer the slightly more mature type with a lot more experience, plus her hairy mound was fully grown and natural, another small preference that I have.

As soon as we got into the room we were deep French kissing, which led to a rapid shedding of clothes, a quick wash-down in the shower-room, and then onto the bed. I fingered her up, which she seemed to enjoy, then went down on her for a good 20 minutes, which she loved, then she immediately turned me over and impaled herself on me without me having any time to get my Okamoto 0. 02 condom on (the only condom I use now, although I am still to try their 0. 01 version), after which there seemed no point insisting on condoms further, so we just went at it. She was like a frustrated tigress, rolling and moving and kneeling and shifting from one position to another, kissing repeatedly in the process, and after half an hour it was all I could do to withstand coming deep inside her, and withdraw and finish over her tummy.

Then we had a lovely intimate session, kissing, cuddling and chatting, which I like, before building up to another, longer active session, in which after my earlier exertions, she performed better than I did and which again resulted in me nearly coming deep inside, but withdrawing in time and spraying a rather small load over her small but beautifully formed breasts.

We were soon running up against the end of the three-hours we'd paid the hotel for, so we showered down and prepared to leave. She never asked for anything, but as it had been so special, I slipped HKD1,000 into her bag whilst she was sorting her hair out, and smiled knowingly to myself when she sort-of secretly checked her bag before we left.

A wonderful Sunday without having to put any effort in at all.

Congrats mate,

You met the lovely Lily. Worth every cent ain't she. Insists she is a DH, which she is but you can find her at NM almost every night. Treat her well and she will repay you. Fond memories only she is pissed with me not financing the sick family water buffalo. Sigh. You win one you loose one. This is surely a regretted loss.

Thanks for the report.

FA.

[QUOTE=TommySued;1779341]Was in Hongkong recently and went to New Makati in Wanchai. Got a drink and was listening to the band when I was approached by a nice lady. Her artist name was Lili, she came from Indonesia. She was 1 m55 small, slim, A-cups, long black hair. I guess her age was around end 20.

We had a drink, some small talk for around one hour and as I liked her, asked if she would come to my hotel. She accepted and when I asked how much she wanted, she said "you decide how much you want to give me". So we went to my hotel which was just a short walk away.

We took a shower together and hopped onto the bed.

We started with kissing, then I worked on her nipples what she liked a lot. Then it was time for stimulating her clit and fingering her pussy. She got more and more wet.

Then she asked me to lay on my back, gave me a good blowjob, them licking my balls and my asshole. She went further and put her tongue inside my ass. Great feeling.

After some time, she got on top of me, grabbed my cock and put it inside her tight pussy, all bareback. We did not even talk about condom. So she was riding my cock while I worked again her nipples which were very hard. She rode herself to orgasm (or she is a good actress), her pussy juice was running down my cock.

Then I pounded her in missionary before turning her around and doing her doggystyle. What a great feeling to fuck that wet and tight pussy having her small ass in my hands. I could not resist for long and I shot my load deep inside her pussy.

We went to refresh under the shower, got back into bed and fell asleep.

Around 8 AM, I woke her up and we did a second hot round ending with a second pussy creampie.

We showered, she dressed up and before she left she gave me a long kiss. As I was really happy with her performance, I gave her 1500 HKD, which she seemed to make her happy.[/QUOTE]

Yes it was a nice night with her.

But I don't think there will be a repeat, because for almost a year now, I find it most boring to fuck the same girl more than 1-2 times.

So FFF. Find, fuck, forget.

[QUOTE=FernandoAlonso;1793559]Congrats mate,

You met the lovely Lily. Worth every cent ain't she. Insists she is a DH, which she is but you can find her at NM almost every night. Treat her well and she will repay you. Fond memories only she is pissed with me not financing the sick family water buffalo. Sigh. You win one you loose one. This is surely a regretted loss.

Thanks for the report.

FA.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=TommySued;1794416]Yes it was a nice night with her.

But I don't think there will be a repeat, because for almost a year now, I find it most boring to fuck the same girl more than 1-2 times.

So FFF. Find, fuck, forget.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=TommySued;1779341]Then I pounded her in missionary before turning her around and doing her doggystyle. What a great feeling to fuck that wet and tight pussy having her small ass in my hands. I could not resist for long and I shot my load deep inside her pussy.

Around 8 AM, I woke her up and we did a second hot round ending with a second pussy creampie.[/QUOTE]LOL! Wise tactic as there might be a surprise waiting for you 9 month down the road!

Hi Guys.

I am coming to HK with a couple of friends and would to know if any of you can suggest some good night clubs with VIP table service. Which ones are the best? I have the club scene in Dubai covered but have no idea about HK and Macau which we are also thinking of visiting.

Any feedback will be highly appreciated. .

Duke.

[QUOTE=DukeOfHazzard;1795164]Hi Guys.

I am coming to HK with a couple of friends and would to know if any of you can suggest some good night clubs with VIP table service. Which ones are the best? I have the club scene in Dubai covered but have no idea about HK and Macau which we are also thinking of visiting.

Any feedback will be highly appreciated. .

Duke.[/QUOTE]Sorry, what is "VIP table service"? If you can be more specific we can probably help.

I was out last night in Wanchai, the first time on a week night in a few weeks. Rather quiet, as you might expect on a Monday night.

Queen Victoria was rather full with guys doing quiz night. Hardly a single girl to be seen.

Makati was quite empty. Maybe four girls when I walked in, 2 busy enjoying bargirl drinks / 2 dancing seemed to be DHs not working. 8 or 9 girls came and went over the course of a half hour.

There seemed to be quite a bit of activity at Amazonina, though I did not go in. And quite a few girls roaming the streets, including a number of truly beautiful tall black women. They don't really do it for me, but if it is your thing there were some stunners.

I ended up in HK Cafe. It was about the liveliest of the bars and was comfortably full. Majority of the girls were working, but a few DHs as well. Friendly crowd and probably the place to head late on a Monday. The band is that weird one with a drummer and bass player, then two singers all playing to a recorded track. But for a Monday, was good.

There are so many bars closed or under construction in Wanchai now: Spicy Fingers, Delaney's, Boracay, Old China, the place next to Old China that has been empty for ages. I have heard stories of landlords raising prices till the bars were not viable, or a few wealthy companies cornering the market either one the real estate or on the bar business. The stories are never quite clear. Anyone know the story about what is going on?

Heard a rumor Goodfellas closed?

Does anyone know about this?

[QUOTE=DukeOfHazzard;1795164]Hi Guys.

I am coming to HK with a couple of friends and would to know if any of you can suggest some good night clubs with VIP table service. Which ones are the best? I have the club scene in Dubai covered but have no idea about HK and Macau which we are also thinking of visiting.

Any feedback will be highly appreciated. .

Duke.[/QUOTE]I think you have to be a bit more specific what kind of clubs you are looking for.

[QUOTE=BrownRail;1795504]I was out last night in Wanchai, the first time on a week night in a few weeks. Rather quiet, as you might expect on a Monday night.

Queen Victoria was rather full with guys doing quiz night. Hardly a single girl to be seen.

Makati was quite empty. Maybe four girls when I walked in, 2 busy enjoying bargirl drinks / 2 dancing seemed to be DHs not working. 8 or 9 girls came and went over the course of a half hour.

There seemed to be quite a bit of activity at Amazonina, though I did not go in. And quite a few girls roaming the streets, including a number of truly beautiful tall black women. They don't really do it for me, but if it is your thing there were some stunners.

I ended up in HK Cafe. It was about the liveliest of the bars and was comfortably full. Majority of the girls were working, but a few DHs as well. Friendly crowd and probably the place to head late on a Monday. The band is that weird one with a drummer and bass player, then two singers all playing to a recorded track. But for a Monday, was good.

There are so many bars closed or under construction in Wanchai now: Spicy Fingers, Delaney's, Boracay, Old China, the place next to Old China that has been empty for ages. I have heard stories of landlords raising prices till the bars were not viable, or a few wealthy companies cornering the market either one the real estate or on the bar business. The stories are never quite clear. Anyone know the story about what is going on?[/QUOTE]OCH has been bought by the operators of QV. Will be called Churchills though waiting for a liquor licence. Guess it will be different to QV.

Delaneys will become a new bar like a HK Cafe. Believe it Dog House may have some involvement.

Spic why Fingers. Believe to have been taken over by the Escape Consortium who own a few licences in Luard Rd.

Mes Amis. I believe the building may become more residential. You may have noticed Flying Pan moved out.

VIP tables. Think these gents will be better served by a karaoke or a gentlemen's club. Many in Kowloon and even in Wanchai.

Anyone in Hk this week want to meet for a drink?

[QUOTE=JohnnyNeedsMor;1795774]Anyone in Hk this week want to meet for a drink?[/QUOTE]I am over from Friday 6th for 3 weeks. Hope to make it out Friday night.

Used to start at OCH, but will be in Queen Victoria from 9. 00 pm.

Let me know if that is convenient.

Peter.

[QUOTE=Lucky88;1795626]I think you have to be a bit more specific what kind of clubs you are looking for.[/QUOTE]What I mean is something like an upscale night club. If any of you have been in Dubai before, then something like Cavalli Club, Cirque de Soir or Provocateur. These are the best and hottest night clubs in Dubai with VIP private tables. These places you either bring your own girls, or find some upscale WG who are always there in big numbers.

Hope this helps narrow it down. Thanks in advance.

Duke.

[QUOTE=DukeOfHazzard;1796071]What I mean is something like an upscale night club. If any of you have been in Dubai before, then something like Cavalli Club, Cirque de Soir or Provocateur. These are the best and hottest night clubs in Dubai with VIP private tables. These places you either bring your own girls, or find some upscale WG who are always there in big numbers.

Hope this helps narrow it down. Thanks in advance.

Duke.[/QUOTE]Reckon I answered your question in my previous post. Upmarket Karaokes or Gentlemen's clubs. You could try Goodfellas but you will need to be a member.

Macua is another option.

[QUOTE=Boarer;1794689]LOL! Wise tactic as there might be a surprise waiting for you 9 month down the road![/QUOTE]My personal opinion is to respect the lady offering bareback and at least making sure there is no surprise down the road. But that is just me and if I recall correctly DH from Indonesia tend to be a bit relaxed on this issues. But as far as I know she is no on birth control. So we all will wait on the outcome.

As we are on the topic, anyone else realised Lily changed her digits and social media (should someone have the new one would appreciate a PM)? When I was touring Wanchai last week I did not see her also. In general only Friday and Saturday where lively, rest of the days not much business going on despite the big convention. More Pinays than before but quality was not to my taste nor prices or attitude. When I nicely declined the offer of one lady she stormed off and out of Makati. I mean, really? In contrast when I asked another lady from the same country to leave after one pop she was happy with the ST fee. No drama, it was just no fun for either of us so why continue? But I found the SP rather aggressive this time. HK Cafe seems the place to go but the younger and nicer ladies seem to prefer party with younger guys. So no luck for me.

As also 141 is getting really bad and unreliable (price on the Internet 500, in the room 700) I am not sure HK is still a good place for our money IMHO.

We will see.

FA.

[QUOTE=Chantik;1796169]Reckon I answered your question in my previous post. Upmarket Karaokes or Gentlemen's clubs. You could try Goodfellas but you will need to be a member.

Macua is another option.[/QUOTE]Thanks Chantik.

Karaoke clubs is not for us unfortunately, but will check out Goodfellas for sure. But as far as I have seen it is more of a strip club, is that right?

We are actually also going to Macau for a day.

Duke.

[QUOTE=FernandoAlonso;1796178]

As we are on the topic, anyone else realised Lily changed her digits and social media (should someone have the new one would appreciate a PM)? When I was touring Wanchai last week I did not see her also.
FA.[/QUOTE]Having read the report, I asked after Lily when in NM on Wednesday night but no one had heard of her, including the 2 mamasans now there from the closed Borocay who I know from previous visits.

Not surprising really as there was only about 4/5 girls there at the time. Managed to have a tryst with Miss "E" but more of that later.

In my eagerness to re-acquaint myself with the hot spots of Wan Chai, I meandered down towards the bars about 9. 30 pm. Too early I know. Its only 6 months since my last visit but how things have changed dramatically. Several well-known and previously busy bars now closed – renovation work going on and, more importantly, a distinct lack of talent.

First stop Joe Bananas. Heaving but it seems to be attracting a different clientele. Called in at Neptune111 – surprisingly busy and lots of girls plying their trade and looking, as usual, for ladies drinks. Some of them are like magnets drawn to you but I always refuse if asked to buy a drink. A rather attractive Philippine "visitor" sits next to me and starts up a conversation. After about 10 minutes I buy her a drink on the basis she has not asked for one and I get her digits as it is too early to make a commitment. $160 for a margarita!

I excuse myself with a promise I will return (I hate lying to them) and call into Insiders looking for a girl I met there last year. Only 2 girls in the place. Then on to NM where I meet Miss "E". Carrying a few extra pounds but then again who I am I to comment. For some unknown reason I sus that a good night might be on with her and we quickly agree LT for HK $1000. Back to the hotel about midnight and I was not wrong. Lots of GFE. After a couple of sessions I want her to leave about 3. 30 am as I am jet lagged and she is happy to do so on the basis I see her tonight. Ten minutes after she leaves she phones to say she had agreed $1500, not $1000 which I counted out to her with a bit extra thrown in for a taxi. She is not too happy but texts me later to say everything is fine and she will see me tonight in NM. Will not be in NM tonight for sure.

Hope things improve as the week progresses.

[QUOTE=Jackthelad2;1796350]
Then on to NM where I meet Miss "E". Carrying a few extra pounds but then again who I am I to comment. For some unknown reason I sus that a good night might be on with her and we quickly agree LT for HK $1000. Back to the hotel about midnight and I was not wrong. Lots of GFE. After a couple of sessions I want her to leave about 3. 30 am as I am jet lagged and she is happy to do so on the basis I see her tonight. Ten minutes after she leaves she phones to say she had agreed $1500, not $1000 which I counted out to her with a bit extra thrown in for a taxi. She is not too happy but texts me later to say everything is fine and she will see me tonight in NM. Will not be in NM tonight for sure.

[/QUOTE]The more I visit Wan Chai the more I like NM. Last trip I met a lovely girl there and had a great time with her. Also pulled a lovely Indo / Javanese girl from Hong Kong Cafe that same trip. Hmm, maybe it's just the Indonesian girls I like so much!

Honestly while that is part of it, there's something about the cramped space in NM that I like. Last trip it was pretty quiet in there, hoping the crowds start picking back up before my next trip early in 2016.

[QUOTE=Chantik;1795704]OCH has been bought by the operators of QV. Will be called Churchills though waiting for a liquor licence. Guess it will be different to QV.

Delaneys will become a new bar like a HK Cafe. Believe it Dog House may have some involvement.

Spic why Fingers. Believe to have been taken over by the Escape Consortium who own a few licences in Luard Rd.

Mes Amis. I believe the building may become more residential. You may have noticed Flying Pan moved out.

VIP tables. Think these gents will be better served by a karaoke or a gentlemen's club. Many in Kowloon and even in Wanchai.[/QUOTE]Thanks so much Chantik. You are the Fount of all knowledge Wanchai!

At 11.00 pm, I make my way to Wan Chai with a mate I bumped into earlier in the day. First stop is HK Café. Almost empty.

Had a look in Amazonoa. The place has about 90% guys. Not my scene.

Drawn back to Neptune 111 as NM is out of bounds due to last night. (My new friend has sent about 20 texts today wanting to meet me in NM).

Neptune 111 quite busy with lots of girls and we decide to have a quiet beer sitting in the corner minding our own business.

This lasts for about 5 seconds before we are approached by 2 sisters just arrived from Singapore. They were from Manila and had been working in Singapore for 6 months but their visas had expired. Just arrived in HK. Could not get rid of them without being rude so talked to them for a while. Eventually bought them drinks. Well, about 4 each to be honest.

They were not the worst looking girls you could meet so eventually the discussion leads to "how much". They start at $2000 but quickly move down to $1500. Big mistake as we do not ask for how long.

Taxi back to hotel and Rose (real name Rhona) takes a shower. I though she was going to run out of water, it was that long. I follow her and she is waiting in bed for me. Starts off well but quickly deteriorates. She kissed better in the bar. All she wanted was condom on and cum.

Must have lasted about 15 minutres max before the sister is on the phone wanting to leave. I part with $1500 (tempted to reduce it to $1000 but knew this would cause a scene).

Remember the name. Rose. She will be in Neptune 111 for next 2 weeks. Don't think about it. Only plus on the night was a few beers put up by Sam on the house.

WIR. No chance.

Searching now for some old phone numbers. At least you know what you will get.

Sorry, not a lot to report.

Work detains me until midnight and involved some "hospitality" that resulted in too much of an intake of alcohol before I ventured to Wan Chai. Streets surprisingly quiet for a Friday night but the usual bars on the main road looked busy.

I must confess to having had "room service" in the afternoon from a DH that I met a year or so ago and with whom I have kept in touch.

She totally drained me so there was no way I could perform twice in a day. Neptune 111 busy again with loads of talent coming and going. The usual suspects were there and making their moves but I clearly indicated that I was off limits and not available for ladies drinks. Rose from last night was particularly pushy, and better dressed, but it was not on. I have a good memory and last night's performance meant she was not on. Her sister looked a better bet.

I meander back to my hotel about 3. 00 am, being accosted all along the road by an increasing number of SW on the prowl, particularly around the MTR.

Saturday was a dead night for me. Along with some business colleagues we visited Neptune111 again about midnight. Place was packed with a wide range of young and not-so-young girls trying their best but quality was certainly missing. No action tonight. Must be getting fussy in my old age.

[QUOTE=Chantik;1788503]Fifty shades.

Forgot to add that more ladies (inc Indonesians) prefer to escort from an online setting. Saves you having to go to bars (which many dislike), its more efficient and you can do it from home.[/QUOTE]Where online can we find these girls?

[QUOTE=Chantik;1788503]Fifty shades.

Forgot to add that more ladies (inc Indonesians) prefer to escort from an online setting. Saves you having to go to bars (which many dislike), its more efficient and you can do it from home.[/QUOTE]Where online can we find these girls?

A busy Sunday work-wise prevented me from sampling some DH delights on their Sunday off so did not make it down to Wan Chai until about 11.30 pm. Looked into Escape. I used to think it was the best place in days gone by when it was Fenwicks. Certainly busy and a different type of girl there. Many elegant, well dressed and good looking girls, not pushy as in Neptune111 and I got the feeling you had to make the first move. Bet they did not come cheap either. Plenty smiling at you as they passed by however and a lot of Vietnamese.

A couple of beers (expensive at $156 for two) and I was off. Streets very quiet so ventured into Neptune 111 where you are immediately pounced upon from all sides. Several very drunk girls as well and not taking an answer. The 2 sisters approached and we had a friendly chat and they were keen to resume acquaintances but I feared a repeat performance so declined.

Several more approaches but you could sense a desperation on their part. Business is not good for a lot of them.

Cut my losses and left for an early night. For research purposes only, I talked to a couple of SW at the MTR but on a closer look at them, they did not look a safe bet. $1000 quoted but were prepared to drop the price. No thanks.

As an American under 40, I just can't get into the Wan Chai bar scene. I will talk with a couple of the girls briefly or even with them on occasion, but buying drinks and flirting with a hooker that I will have to (over) pay for sex seems like a big waste of time to me. Now if it's a non-working girl, then certainly, I do it myself. But when it comes to strictly busting one, I'd rather just pay for sex and get on with it. So that being said, I do prefer walk ups. I do look on the 148,161 sites, but only to find the buildings, not a particular lady. I actually get a kick out of knocking on the door not knowing whom will answer, it adds a little suspense to the experience.

I know a lot of Westerners are a bit turned off by the walk up experience, in that it's too mechanical, etc, etc. For those who feel that way I say try doing it the way I just described, I have a feeling it will feel less like a walk of shame to a certain gal's spot and more like a treasure hunt Don't just go to the Fugi Building either, try the spots hidden away in Mong Kok, Prince Edward and Jordan (there's a lot of gems to be found). Just my two cents.

[QUOTE=BrockStar;1798100]As an American under 40, I just can't get into the Wan Chai bar scene. I will talk with a couple of the girls briefly or even with them on occasion, but buying drinks and flirting with a hooker that I will have to (over) pay for sex seems like a big waste of time to me.[/QUOTE]Totally agree with you. Will be in HK for my first time between 3 weeks and plan to explore a Walk's Up scene and little massage-brothel around.

[QUOTE=BrockStar;1798100]As an American under 40, I just can't get into the Wan Chai bar scene. I will talk with a couple of the girls briefly or even with them on occasion, but buying drinks and flirting with a hooker that I will have to (over) pay for sex seems like a big waste of time to me. Now if it's a non-working girl, then certainly, I do it myself. But when it comes to strictly busting one, I'd rather just pay for sex and get on with it. So that being said, I do prefer walk ups. I do look on the 148,161 sites, but only to find the buildings, not a particular lady. I actually get a kick out of knocking on the door not knowing whom will answer, it adds a little suspense to the experience.

I know a lot of Westerners are a bit turned off by the walk up experience, in that it's too mechanical, etc, etc. For those who feel that way I say try doing it the way I just described, I have a feeling it will feel less like a walk of shame to a certain gal's spot and more like a treasure hunt Don't just go to the Fugi Building either, try the spots hidden away in Mong Kok, Prince Edward and Jordan (there's a lot of gems to be found). Just my two cents.[/QUOTE]Different strokes for different folks. I personally love the bar scene, but I'm a big drinker so that might have something to do with it. I'm pretty much in heaven sitting in a bar full of lovelies, drinking my fill, and waiting for Ms. Right Now to appear in my life. BTW lady drinks aren't required, depending on the bar of course. Some places in Wan Chai the girls are pushy, others they're not. Even in the places where they are pushy it's easy to tell them no if you're not interested in them. And if you are, you can still avoid the push by buying them maybe one and then letting them know you're interested in "later".

Agree also though that the walk-ups are fun. I much prefer the bar scene but I've also had my share of fun at walk-ups.

[QUOTE=Jackthelad2;1798012]For research purposes only, I talked to a couple of SW at the MTR but on a closer look at them, they did not look a safe bet. $1000 quoted but were prepared to drop the price. No thanks.[/QUOTE]Welcome back and look forward to reading your reports. I would stay away from those SW as I heard some have / had balls.

Unlike others, I also stay away from the Africans as they (and some other nationalities) have rolled some punters.

As Chantik mentioned, situations have changed for many of the Indo ladies. I find that pickings are slim the couple times I dropped by Wan Chai.

The only interesting Indo I met recently, was outside Times Square after a late lunch.

[QUOTE=Boarer;1799137] I would stay away from those SW as I heard some have / had balls.
Unlike others, I also stay away from the Africans as they (and some other nationalities) have rolled some punters.
[/QUOTE]Thanks and glad to be back. No reports for the last couple of days. I have been "renewing acquaintances" with some past providers that I have stayed in touch with, including my Chinese massage girl I met a couple of years ago. Girl next door type who has lost none of her enthusiasm. Just unbelievable!

I too steer clear of the Africans. Don't know why but I just don't trust them but I'm not knocking anyone who likes a bit of black. Horses for courses.

Talking of which, off the races tonight then onto Wan Chai. I have a feeling I will have better luck at Wan Chai.

Hi guys.

Coming to HK next week and I come to wonder where the Latina WG hang out nowadays? I remember from my past couple of visits that Escape was the place for meeting them and they were hot But as I RTTF it seems they have left Escape?! Looks like mostly Asians there now.

Any feedback will be welcome.

Thanks in advance.

Duke.

[QUOTE=DukeOfHazzard;1799177]Hi guys.

Coming to HK next week and I come to wonder where the Latina WG hang out nowadays? I remember from my past couple of visits that Escape was the place for meeting them and they were hot But as I RTTF it seems they have left Escape?! Looks like mostly Asians there now.

Any feedback will be welcome.

Thanks in advance.

Duke.[/QUOTE]What? Chatting to a mate last week about his Escape. He bitterly complained there were too many white girls.

[QUOTE=Chantik;1799246]What? Chatting to a mate last week about his Escape. He bitterly complained there were too many white girls.[/QUOTE]Strange, even last I was there about 5 months ago I saw only few white chicks but they were mainly Russians. No Latinas.

But I hope you are right and they are still there.

Duke.

[QUOTE=Chantik;1799246]What? Chatting to a mate last week about his Escape. He bitterly complained there were too many white girls.[/QUOTE]Funny because I read somewhere that Latina or Hispanics are considered "white". So much for Belafonte's song about brown skinned girls. Probably not PC nowadays. LOL.

The Duke should time his visit with the ships. Think someone mentioned many Columbians online. But why pay such a premium on this side of the globe?

[QUOTE=Boarer;1799362]Funny because I read somewhere that Latina or Hispanics are considered "white". So much for Belafonte's song about brown skinned girls. Probably not PC nowadays. LOL.

The Duke should time his visit with the ships. Think someone mentioned many Columbians online. But why pay such a premium on this side of the globe?[/QUOTE]Well, We don't get many / hardly any latinas in Dubai as they need visa to enter. And since I have a taste for latinas for me HK is the best option as I have seen some smoking hot girls in Escape before.

Duke.

[QUOTE=Boarer;1799362]So much for Belafonte's song about brown skinned girls. Probably not PC nowadays. LOL.
[/QUOTE]You are showing your age Boarer!

Lost at the races so hoping for better luck with the rides at Wan Chai.

First stop NM. Only a couple of girls there at 11.30 pm. On to Neptune 111. Busy and attacked right away with some of the most persistent girls yet. One in particular (Josephine) was all over me almost giving me the happy ending at the bar that she promised I would get after a massage in my hotel room. All for $1000 for LT. Wanted to leave right away, or at least after I had bought her a couple of drinks. I did think about it to be honest but something put me off her. Maybe it was her 35 years of age and 2 girls back home that she desperately wanted me to help her out with financially.

Had to leave to get away from the scrum. Did get a few numbers but the problem now is I forget who was who. Next stop HK Caf. Quieter thank God but the vultures were out there too. A persistent "Lily" wanted a drink and promised the earth for $100 LT. Seems there is an encouraging trend and sudden drop in the prices. Or is it desperation?

Couple of beers later and I'm back in NM. Busier and the mamasan, previously in Borocay, tries to fix me up with a companion for the night. Unfortunately not my type. Mamasan tells me Borocay had to shut down because of escalating rent costs. It was never really busy anyway.

Streets are quite quiet except for the main bars along the road who still seem to be doing good business. Returns to Neptune 111 (don't flame me) and the place has got quieter. Old "acquaintances" I had not seen earlier say Hello, but don't pester too much.

After a bit of grinding etc I decide to call it a day. Got several texts on the way back asking if I needed a companion for the night but had not a clue who from.

A bit of a mixture tonight.

1st stop Neptune111. Busy, busy and no let up on the requests for ladies drinks. Just have to refuse and eventually they go away. Two newcomers at the bar draw my attention. Just arrived in HK. One was particularly well turned out for Neptune 111 and looked "interesting". Very chatty but I was more interested in her friend (a cousin). Good vibes and after a couple of drinks she loosened up and was cuddling into me. All the signs were good and promising. The fact that she was a mother of three did not put me off and I eventually asked her back to the hotel. A flat "no" was the answer as she did not know me. Some you win, some you lose. Exchanged numbers and left.

Went to NM almost empty around midnight.

Next to HK caf where I bump into my friend over from Manila "just to see me". Managed to get out of that with a promise to contact her later. Back to Neptune 111. Alex from a few nights ago is looking good, if not a little drunk, and we quickly negotiate $1000 LT. I go to the toilet and on my return she is chatting up another customer. Bye bye.

Off to NM. A bit busier and I am steered by mamasan to a young girl on her own at the bar. Just arrived and innocent looking. Did not know anyone. I should have walked away but bought her a drink and as the night was getting on asked her back. Very nervous and unsure but she agreed. Has not had sex for ages. Shy in the bedroom and gets into bed fully clothed whilst I'm in the toilet. A slow start but then she completely caves in and is all over me, stripping off as well as stripping me. No play acting here and no fake moans. She enjoys it better than me. We part some time about 4. 00 am with a plea from her to see me again. I felt really sorrow for her. I also feel a bit of a heel. She was not even sure of where she was staying and I had to point her in the direction of a taxi to take her back to Wan Chai. She did not even have a phone so no number and I don't even know her name.

[QUOTE=Jackthelad2;1800172]I felt really sorrow for her. I also feel a bit of a heel. She was not even sure of where she was staying and I had to point her in the direction of a taxi to take her back to Wan Chai. She did not even have a phone so no number and I don't even know her name.[/QUOTE]That is why I always pay. Met too many newbies like that over the years; even when I was not in the game. Even if I am played for a sucker or a fool, it lets me sleep better. I try to do not harm and leave no trace.

LOL.

[QUOTE=Jackthelad2;1799675]You are showing your age Boarer![/QUOTE]Yes! But he was old even when I first heard his songs. Took some people for a quick caribean trip recently and hit a place where his songs were being performed. He and Bob Marley just make the right atmosphere after a day in the sun.

[QUOTE=DukeOfHazzard;1799590]Well, We don't get many / hardly any latinas in Dubai as they need visa to enter. And since I have a taste for latinas for me HK is the best option as I have seen some smoking hot girls in Escape before.

Duke.[/QUOTE]Spain is close by. I like Latinas too but think the Indos are great now. Though selections in HK is getting slimmer. Jakarta and Bali are much better.

FWIW, the attitudes of some of the Latina WGs are really bad. I stay away.

Just let us know when you land, Bo. I want to be sure I am not anywhere close to you just in case you are sporting a Dixie Flag. ;-D

Only went to Neptune 111 so don't know about any other place. Arrived about midnight as had been working most of the day and early evening. Interestingly, I got a couple of texts from my "NO" lady from last night asking if I was going to Neptune 111. She does not even have a phone but was using a friend's. No sooner in when she is over. Looking very attractive and well dressed. Not a bar type girl at all. We sit and chat, I buy her a drink and things are getting cosy. Really GFE. I eventually resurrect the hotel bedroom issue and she confesses that it is the wrong time of the month. Hence the "No" last night. Things should be OK by Tuesday. Just my luck, I'm going home then. I spend a few hours sitting talking and call it a day about 3. 00 am, going home alone. My friend leaves as well to go home. I'm not even disappointed now about that. We arrange to meet tomorrow. Sitting there gives you time to observe what is happening about the place. Shed loads of girls coming and going, some good and some not so good, but the latter are in the minority tonight, or is it the beer goggles?. You could not fail in a place like this.

[QUOTE=BrockStar;1798100]As an American under 40, I just can't get into the Wan Chai bar scene. I will talk with a couple of the girls briefly or even with them on occasion, but buying drinks and flirting with a hooker that I will have to (over) pay for sex seems like a big waste of time to me. Now if it's a non-working girl, then certainly, I do it myself. But when it comes to strictly busting one, I'd rather just pay for sex and get on with it. So that being said, I do prefer walk ups. I do look on the 148,161 sites, but only to find the buildings, not a particular lady. I actually get a kick out of knocking on the door not knowing whom will answer, it adds a little suspense to the experience.[/QUOTE]As an American also with significant mongering experience, I have a slightly different twist. Being 50 ish but fit and attractive, I became invisible to the late 20 early 30 ladies several years back. So I enjoy strip clubs where my stealth cloke evaporates and the young ladies seem attractive to me (or is it my wallet&#128526. Buy drinks for the ladies and get a grind dance and occasional happy ending via a tug in some places. No experience with these WL bar scenes like in HK as they don't exist in states. So I looking at it a strip club on steroids with the challenge I have to at least bring some game to the event if I want to get some quality and at a right price. As to walk ups, totally did my research. Cross referenced the sites and picked target location buildings. Seems Kowloon from Jordan up past Ming Kok is target rich, slightly better pricing so staying there as everything seems within 20 minute walking distance. Agree totally on the treasure hunt. Don't understand wall of shame thing. Couldn't give a s%#t people look at you going in or out. There not my neighbors. As for inside in the hallways, they are there for same reason, just like guy sitting next to you at strip club.

Now there seems to be a Thai nest in Jordan along temple street. From other forums, research indicates 120 HK dollar for short term. Just my cup of tea. But can't figure out which building or any close landmark and these walk up signs in Chinese is a bit confusing. Anyone have any Intel willing go share.

Be safe FH69.

Pre-arranged from last night, I meet my new GF (Crystal) in Neptune 111 about midnight. She arrives with her cousin just after me. Looking quite glamorous as is her cousin, Annie. I tell her to order a drink whilst I visit the gents. Big mistake. I come back to a $320 bill for 2 tequilas. You never learn and an alarm bell rings. Anyway settle down to a nice night in the company of nice girl who is not afraid of showing a bit of affection for me in public. We talk of meeting in the Philippines early next year as she has invited me over to her place. I am chuffed to bits. Things are looking good.

I tell her as nicely as possibly and diplomatically that I can't sit and buy tequilas for her all night (remembering of course there will be no visit to my hotel tonight). She fully accepts this but tells me she needs to make drinks money for her sick child back home. The alarm bell gets louder. After an hour or so, Annie has her own customer and I suggest I leave so that she can get more (expensive) ladies drinks. She agrees amicably and off I go to Amazonia. Packed, noisy and busy. A few WG's around but nothing appeals to me.

Head for HK caf and lo and behold my Philippine friend is there, waiting for me she says. The place is busy and the dance floor packed. Off we go without even another drink and I get her to leave about 10.30 am the next morning as I have work to do. Needless to say I did not get much sleep so all is well that ends well. To be honest I'm totally done in.

I doubt if I will see Crystal again so be warned and careful of her and her cousin Annie who will be in Neptune 111 for the remainder of their stay. Unless of course, you are loaded and keen to help out the less fortunate. I'm working all day Sunday so no opportunity of sampling the DH market.

Last weekend was in Wanchai and seeing the crazy rush to get into makati went to a quieter bar Insiders. Relatively quieter and empty had just a few Fiil's / indo babes. Found 2/3 interesting ones before choosing a Filli who was cheerful, had nice assets and importantly also did not pester me or ask for a drink despite me playing with her for more than a hour. She was happy with my offer off 1500 HK (if satisfied in the morning) else she would take 1000. Very GFE with holding hands as we walked back to Novotel (my stay) giggling, cracking jokes. Once in the room, started with a strip tease, before moving to give me a BL and a BLS and then mounted me with her riding me furiously till the inevitable. Curled up to me for the night and woke up in the morning to a BJ in the works with her BLS expertise at play. Worth every penny.

[QUOTE=DukeOfHazzard;1796071]What I mean is something like an upscale night club. If any of you have been in Dubai before, then something like Cavalli Club, Cirque de Soir or Provocateur. These are the best and hottest night clubs in Dubai with VIP private tables. These places you either bring your own girls, or find some upscale WG who are always there in big numbers.

Hope this helps narrow it down. Thanks in advance.

Duke.[/QUOTE]Ok, the kind of clubs where models hang out.

You want to head to:

Dragon I.

Volar.

Boujis.

Play.

Drop.

All clubs in and around Lan Kwai Fong in Central. All start LATE.

Otherwise you can head to Ozone on top of ICC or Cubic in Macau.

There are not a lot of pros in these kind of clubs in Hong Kong.

[QUOTE=Lucky88;1801226]Ok, the kind of clubs where models hang out.

You want to head to:

Dragon I.

Volar.

Boujis.

Play.

Drop.

All clubs in and around Lan Kwai Fong in Central. All start LATE.

Otherwise you can head to Ozone on top of ICC or Cubic in Macau.

There are not a lot of pros in these kind of clubs in Hong Kong.[/QUOTE]Thanks Lucky. Will definitely check out some of these places.

Duke.

[QUOTE=Boarer;1800335]
Just let us know when you land, Bo. I want to be sure I am not anywhere close to you just in case you are sporting a Dixie Flag. ;-D[/QUOTE]LOL, Will be landing Friday for your info, and would you believe it if I said I am asian?? :-the.

Duke.

"I doubt if I will see Crystal again" starts of the last paragraph of my report yesterday. Famous last words.

After a busy day I wander down to Neptune111 with a business colleague about 11.00 pm. Streets and bars look quiet except for the one more or less next to Neptune 111 (can't remember the name). It is packed.

Neptune 111 fairly busy and we order beers. 10 seconds later in come Crystal and her cousin, both looking good. Being the gentleman I am, a round of margaritas is ordered and gratefully received. Crystal seats next to me and after a while Annie is off to find a customer. She soon does and later on disappears out the bar. Crystal and I are getting on well and making arrangements for a visit to Philippines next year. Another offer to see my hotel room is declined – this time she says she is waiting for Annie to return. She does not like the idea of girls going off with punters but it seems to be OK for Annie to do so. You get my drift. I'm having a pleasant time and about 2. 00 am decide time for bed (myself unfortunately). By this time the bar is all but empty. I'm not too bothered as I have had enough horizontal refreshment to last me for a while. We part on the best of terms with a promise from Crystal to contact me and see me on Monday afternoon before I leave for home. She does not have a phone in HK but uses Annie's. The promise was never realised. Now there's a surprise. Annie's phone number is deleted from my list.

I'm accosted outside the bar by the 2 sisters that hang about inside Neptune 111 and who I met earlier in the week. They are desperate for me to take them for a Thai meal at $60 a head as they are hungry. They are almost shagging me in the street. It's a sad world.

My buddy in the meantime left and hour or so earlier to go to Amazonia. Packed he said.

Well that's it for this trip. Things are never the same as they used to be. But I will be back for more punishment. We never really learn, do we?

Hi all,
Few months ago I bought a ticket on their webstie for tound trip Bangkok - Hong Kong. 3 days ago I got an email from them where they inform me that my flight schedule had been changed. The problem is that they don't wrote my new revised timing nor attach a new e-ticket.
I send to them 3 emails but they never answer me. Tried to login in on their website but is function very bad and I'm unable to manage my booking.
So I have to travel between 11 days and don't know my flight schedule. This morning I called their representative office here in my country but is just a travel agency and they cant check my flight status, so they can only solicit the company via email.

My suggestion to all members is to avoid this company! I travel in Europe with many low cost company but no one have a bad service and lack of info like HK Airlines.

[QUOTE=FunHobby69;1800430] Now there seems to be a Thai nest in Jordan along temple street. From other forums, research indicates 120 HK dollar for short term. Just my cup of tea. But can't figure out which building or any close landmark and these walk up signs in Chinese is a bit confusing. Anyone have any Intel willing go share.
Be safe FH69.

[/QUOTE]I don't know about any "nests", but Thais & Pinays are often found along Temple and nearby Sts. Africans are less common and Indos are downright rare. The Thais I've seen are usually managed by a pimp, while the pinays are freelancers. It really is hit & miss, though, as they tend to show up for awhile then disappear. PRCs, of course, are the staple of these places.

Regarding pricing, where in the world did you get that info? If that is indeed a legitimate quote it's just for the room. All in expect to pay between 350-450 HKD. 20 yrs ago it was 250-350. I doubt it has been 120 HKD since the 1970's (or even earlier).

[QUOTE=DukeOfHazzard;1801238]LOL, Will be landing Friday for your info, and would you believe it if I said I am asian?? :-the.

Duke.[/QUOTE]Bo, interesting point. In the video, two white men were beat up by 7 African Americans. The white men had a Confederate Flag magnet on their truck. Much smaller than on the General Lee.

Many officials say it is not a hate crime. Nor racial.

IMHO, officials have basically declared open season. YMMV.

[QUOTE=ErasmusBDragin;1801302]I don't know about any "nests", but Thais & Pinays are often found along Temple and nearby Sts. Africans are less common and Indos are downright rare. The Thais I've seen are usually managed by a pimp, while the pinays are freelancers. It really is hit & miss, though, as they tend to show up for awhile then disappear. PRCs, of course, are the staple of these places.

Regarding pricing, where in the world did you get that info? If that is indeed a legitimate quote it's just for the room. All in expect to pay between 350-450 HKD. 20 yrs ago it was 250-350. I doubt it has been 120 HKD since the 1970's (or even earlier).[/QUOTE]The information provided was part of my effort to do some serious recon prior to arrival in HK first time end of November. I don't guarantee it, just passing along intel I gathered. You asked where the source was from. I don't think pappi Administrator would allow me to disclose another forum by name. However, I have posted prior interest in walk ups and it should be obvious as to the forum on that site. My bad, it wasn't $120, but $150 I saw. I don' think it would violate any rules to describe that discussion as it is published and out there. What I read went like this "The temple street Thai nest. I could have visited last night but I felt KPressure needed another go. I am now kicking myself, here's why: Firstly the girls are all pretty young Thai things in their 20's, and cheap at 150 a bang (the price recently went from 140). The service is perfunctory: CBJ, , wam bam, thank you mam. Don't expect a sshower, long chat and GFE. But at that price who cares? Personally, I am not interested in GFE, never have been, I like the hooker experience or. If I'm feeling fancy. Putting down for a good PSE. The transaction element is where I personally get off. " So that prompted my inquiry on this board which I will be joining shortly as I see time is a requirement to get senior and PM staus and I will be arriving end of Nov for first visit. Will hit Wan Chai on Sunday at end of month but honestly, appears a little daunting and would welcome any members who want to share a beer on me. Am I reading this right that the places with domestic help, out to supplement income hang in places that charge 140 k for tequila drinks; must have my conversion dollar to HK dollar off. That is sick! Ending my tour in Pattaya (eight days) and hope I don't have to live like a hermit in HK cause for the price of two drinks in Wan Chai I can almost due 2ST at certain Pattaya bars. FH69.

Jack.

Thanks for the reports, very informative, will spend one night in HK next month and the info helps, from past experiences I really hate neptune 3, it is a high pressure hard core bar for my tastes and patience, and spending us $20 for a drink seems crazy for me. I usually prefer HK cafe, or even escape which I feel is not thta high pressure to buy girls a drink.

I think wanchai is a hit a miss place, mif you are lucky you can find a new phil, indo or vietnam semi pro and have a nice time for a reasonable price or you get the hardcore philipines or Indonesian with all their issues. I avoid colombians as I go to Medellin often and get girls for $50, also avoid africans even though I fine some of them attractive I just don't trust them.

Will report my experience in wanchai.

[QUOTE=Jackthelad2;1801264]"I doubt if I will see Crystal again" starts of the last paragraph of my report yesterday. Famous last words.

After a busy day I wander down to Neptune111 with a business colleague about 11.00 pm. Streets and bars look quiet except for the one more or less next to Neptune 111 (can't remember the name). It is packed.

Neptune 111 fairly busy and we order beers. 10 seconds later in come Crystal and her cousin, both looking good. Being the gentleman I am, a round of margaritas is ordered and gratefully received. Crystal seats next to me and after a while Annie is off to find a customer. She soon does and later on disappears out the bar. Crystal and I are getting on well and making arrangements for a visit to Philippines next year. Another offer to see my hotel room is declined this time she says she is waiting for Annie to return. She does not like the idea of girls going off with punters but it seems to be OK for Annie to do so. You get my drift. I'm having a pleasant time and about 2. 00 am decide time for bed (myself unfortunately). By this time the bar is all but empty. I'm not too bothered as I have had enough horizontal refreshment to last me for a while. We part on the best of terms with a promise from Crystal to contact me and see me on Monday afternoon before I leave for home. She does not have a phone in HK but uses Annie's. The promise was never realised. Now there's a surprise. Annie's phone number is deleted from my list.

I'm accosted outside the bar by the 2 sisters that hang about inside Neptune 111 and who I met earlier in the week. They are desperate for me to take them for a Thai meal at $60 a head as they are hungry. They are almost shagging me in the street. It's a sad world.

My buddy in the meantime left and hour or so earlier to go to Amazonia. Packed he said.

Well that's it for this trip. Things are never the same as they used to be. But I will be back for more punishment. We never really learn, do we?[/QUOTE]

Hey everyone,

I'm headed to HK for a couple days next week and hoping to find a nice simple HJ spot. Any recommendations? Please let me know rates if possible.

Thanks!

Always enjoy reading your excursion trips to Wanchai. Your reports are always well written and with a unique balance of being informative and humorous. Have enjoyed your reports over the years and feel that anyone hitting Wanchai should make it a habit of reading all your reports. Thank you for sharing your time here and I look forward to more enjoyable reading in the future.

Cheers!

[QUOTE=Jackthelad2;1801264]"I doubt if I will see Crystal again" starts of the last paragraph of my report yesterday. Famous last words.

After a busy day I wander down to Neptune111 with a business colleague about 11.00 pm. Streets and bars look quiet except for the one more or less next to Neptune 111 (can't remember the name). It is packed.

Well that's it for this trip. Things are never the same as they used to be. But I will be back for more punishment. We never really learn, do we?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=RamnHK;1801672]Always enjoy reading your excursion trips to Wanchai. Your reports are always well written and with a unique balance of being informative and humorous. Have enjoyed your reports over the years and feel that anyone hitting Wanchai should make it a habit of reading all your reports. Thank you for sharing your time here and I look forward to more enjoyable reading in the future.

Cheers![/QUOTE]Many thanks for your kind words. Back home now after 14 hours on a plane to rain and cold with only memories. Most of them fine.

Must add I met Crystal after all on Monday, late afternoon, after I had penned my last report. My last day in HK. But still never got into her! Maybe next time.

[QUOTE=Calvito;1801621]Jack.

Thanks for the reports, very informative, will spend one night in HK next month and the info helps, from past experiences I really hate neptune 3, it is a high pressure hard core bar for my tastes and patience, and spending us $20 for a drink seems crazy for me.[/QUOTE]Thanks and I agree completely with your comments about Neptune111. It is the worst of all the bars for pressure to buy ladies drinks. I only go there out of habit really, and Sam the Manager is usually good with us, putting up a few beers now and again. Once you get to know mamasan Pearla, you can also ask her to keep the girls at bay, but at the end of the day it's partly her job as well to extract as much out of you as possible. I have also noticed over the years that it is one of the busier bars in an era when there is a definite drop in numbers around.

Will be staying at the Holiday Inn in early December. I have always enjoyed the scene at Hari's Bar in the Hotel and made some great pickups there. I have heard remours that the number of WG's have decreased due to changes made by management. Can anyone update me on the scene?

Your booking reference is very likely unchanged. You should then be able to check it on [URL]www.checkmytrip.com[/URL].

[QUOTE=ChristianG;1801279]Hi all,
Few months ago I bought a ticket on their webstie for tound trip Bangkok - Hong Kong. 3 days ago I got an email from them where they inform me that my flight schedule had been changed. The problem is that they don't wrote my new revised timing nor attach a new e-ticket.
I send to them 3 emails but they never answer me. Tried to login in on their website but is function very bad and I'm unable to manage my booking.
So I have to travel between 11 days and don't know my flight schedule. This morning I called their representative office here in my country but is just a travel agency and they cant check my flight status, so they can only solicit the company via email.

My suggestion to all members is to avoid this company! I travel in Europe with many low cost company but no one have a bad service and lack of info like HK Airlines.[/QUOTE]

Browsing around other areas, I thought I'd contribute some up to date info on Temple Street.

There are mainlander streetwalkers along this stretch of road pretty much all day. I've seen them out as early as 7 am while on my way to work. Usually there are clusters of them towards the far end by the arch near Kansu street. There is also a Circle K around Ning Po St. Where they tend to gather around. They stand around for 15-20 minutes and go back to their rooms for a bit so if you are there and you don't seen girls, just circle around the temple street area once or twice until they return. There are also solo girls walking around you should be able to spot around the area as you walk up and down.

Many of these girls are in and out on two way permits and tourist visas so the quality will vary from week to week and I've spotted a few stunners over the years. If you see one you like approach, make eye contact and flash two fingers indicating price and see where it goes from there. Bargaining usually starts at 200 and depending on the girl she will take anywhere between 200 to 400. Mostly I pay 200,220 and rarely more than 250 but I don't blame the girls for trying to get away with charging far more than that. The service is always the same, they will take you up to a small room nearby or around the corner, once you are in they will either wipe you down with some wet wipes or let you shower alone. The girls will sometimes partially undress or just remove their underwear for a quick and unremarkable pump and dump. They wipe you down again once you are done and it's out the door.

Right on the corner of Woosung and Nanking on the opposite end there is a small 7/11 on the corner, there is a hotel right next to it and mostly during the day and early evening there are two or three chinese girls with a mamasan hanging about, they usually start bargaining at 250 or even higher but try to get it down lower.

There are also Thai girls in rooms that change locations every few months all along Temple st. If you can spot the mamasan sitting on a stool on the bottom of the stairwell, make eye contact and she will ask you up. Locals are charged 150 or so, I've heard some tourists and white people especially paying for a bit more but should not be higher than 250 for a quick 15 minutes. Service with the Thai girls is generally good, quick shower, BJ and sex. Sometimes I pay an extra hundred for a second round, some girls agree and others ask for more.

There are also massage places along this area and on Shanghai St. Parallel to Temple St. Where the girls wait outside hand out flyers. Most of us stay away from them as they are ripoff joints with girls mid 30's to late 40's in slutwear pointing out 168 hkd to 250 hkd massages then once you are up there ask you for an additional one or two hundred for a handjob.

Hope this has been helpful.

I recently referred to the walk ups as a treasure hunt and last night I struck the mother lode! It was at the Parkes building and she was Thai (from Chiang Mai). Very tall for a Thai gal, spoke some English and had a very nice NATURAL rack. I didn't even have to ask for a BBBJ, she just went to it. She even got me off while being on top; in most cases I'm the one that needs to do all the work in order to obtain that release us mongers cherish. I was totally expecting, and willing, to part with 400, but she only charged me 300! Doesn't get much better than that, does it?

And for the record, I DO NOT know her name or remember the exact room she was in nor will I go back looking for her. Banging the same hooker more than once has never been my thing.

[QUOTE=Jackthelad2;1801997] I have also noticed over the years that it is one of the busier bars in an era when there is a definite drop in numbers around.[/QUOTE]

I lived there for a year, and still get back every month. Am back Sat for a week with my bro. I agree it is definitely quieter, has been since Halloween 2014 and the horrible events that occurred. Since then many places quiet, lots of bars closed temporarily or permanently. Don't get me wrong, it is still good, just not so good. Now you can walk into Makati midweek and be one of 5 people in there, or any of the other places. Shame.

Anyway, I don't monger there, freebies are easy to find and I have enough friends there. Be nice to the girls, they will be nice to you. Love your reports Jack.

[QUOTE=Mattador;1802456]Your booking reference is very likely unchanged. You should then be able to check it on [URL]www.checkmytrip.com[/URL].[/QUOTE]After 4 days I finally got my new e-ticket. 5 hrs change, F_ck!

[QUOTE=Eamon1;1802438]Will be staying at the Holiday Inn in early December. I have always enjoyed the scene at Hari's Bar in the Hotel and made some great pickups there. I have heard remours that the number of WG's have decreased due to changes made by management. Can anyone update me on the scene?[/QUOTE]I just read a couple days ago on the 141 forums that Hari's is loosening back up a bit lately; please do check it out and let us know!

[QUOTE=Goons;1802489]Browsing around other areas, I thought I'd contribute some up to date info on Temple Street.

There are mainlander streetwalkers along this stretch of road pretty much all day. I've seen them out as early as 7 am while on my way to work. Usually there are clusters of them towards the far end by the arch near Kansu street. There is also a Circle K around Ning Po St. Where they tend to gather around. They stand around for 15-20 minutes...[/QUOTE]I had a feeling the prices along Temple Street were a tad cheaper, it's to hear that they indeed are! Personally, I always take a walk along Temple Street to check for girls, although I have never taken one. I have seen a few absolute stunners, but they wouldn't even look at me (I am white). The older gals and mamasans do try getting my attention though. Since it seems the hot Chinese gals won't touch me and I'm not into older ladies, I am intrigued by the presence of Thais. I assume they work for the mamasans and I will definitely take the plunge next time and see what kinda gals these old bags got working for them'!

[QUOTE=Jsxyz;1802891]I just read a couple days ago on the 141 forums that Hari's is loosening back up a bit lately; please do check it out and let us know![/QUOTE]Will be staying next weekend and shall report back.

Have spent 3 nights in Hong Kong, Neptune 3 is full of scammers of the Pilipino variety, crazy bird wanted to charge me to take her clothes off and tell me wouldn't put out as agreed. Could not find any indo girls at all, and thai are thin on the ground, New Makati seems the busiest spot after about 10.00 pm. Sprung a barebacker out of there, wanted $1500 for all nighter. Bit much, but I was missing it.