Jakarta

[QUOTE=LAGuy5;1740699]
He wasn't commenting on only one Western guy. He was suggesting in that post those of us who posted negative information about the service at Classic likely got bad service because we did not know how to present ourselves to the girls, whereas he did. I found that offensive, particularly coming from someone who apparently has such limited experience in Jakarta; apparently you don't.

And to the guy who suggested I was a "hater" for holding this view, have you looked at your own history of posts here, insulting other people? Classic pot calling the kettle black.[/QUOTE]Please note the contrast in the way Smoothy replied (he has commented on Classic many times and is a bule) and the way you handled it. Chalk and cheese.

MD II.

[QUOTE=MasterDiverII;1740706]Please note the contrast in the way Smoothy replied (he has commented on Classic many times and is a bule) and the way you handled it. Chalk and cheese.

MD II.[/QUOTE]Yes, Smoothy and I are different people and responded differently. That, however, doesn't bear on the offensiveness of UndercoverH's post.

[QUOTE=MasterDiverII;1740690]I would definitely have jumped that 25 yo part Arab girl[/QUOTE]I wish I would have been with her more than once. She wasn't on the scene long. I haven't met you yet, but if you are anything like Menteng, I think you fall in a different category than the normal Asians who frequent those places. Menteng is at least half bule. haha. And a damn good pool player.

[QUOTE=SteelBaton;1740689]The issue is my window falls squarely in the last week of 2015 Ramadan (Sunday to Tuesday). The question is should I bother or wait for another opportunity later in the year?[/QUOTE]Don't waste your time. The very end of Ramadan is a horrible horrible time to visit. There are much better choices than Indonesia during that period. Wait for at least 2 weeks after the end of Ramadan.

[QUOTE=LAGuy5;1740699]He was suggesting in that post those of us who posted negative information about the service at Classic likely got bad service because we did not know how to present ourselves to the girls, whereas he did. I found that offensive, particularly coming from someone who apparently has such limited experience in Jakarta; apparently you don't. [/QUOTE]Let's cool off. Everyone has a right to their opinions and I am glad that person posted his. One can agree with it or move on. It's ok to disagree too. When I read his comments, it reminded of many over weight, smelly, badly dressed men I have seen in AC that I always wonder what kind of service would the WG would give to them. Others have also commented on that too. How one presents oneself is not limited to Indonesia but every where in the world. You do not have to wear expensive clothes but if you are respectful and clean, your chances are better. So, his experience being in Jakarta for only a short time is a moot point. Without dissent, we would not learn from each other. All comments are welcome. Live and let live. Happy mongering.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1740715]I wish I would have been with her more than once. She wasn't on the scene long. I haven't met you yet, but if you are anything like Menteng, I think you fall in a different category than the normal Asians who frequent those places. Menteng is at least half bule. haha. And a damn good pool player.[/QUOTE]Yes, I have played pool with Menteng: I recall how he was trying to take a photo down my my girl's blouse at the time, so perhaps he was distracted. I guess I'm neither Asian nor bule then?

MD II.

[QUOTE=MasterDiverII;1740723]Yes, I have played pool with Menteng: I recall how he was trying to take a photo down my my girl's blouse at the time, so perhaps he was distracted. I guess I'm neither Asian nor bule then?

MD II.[/QUOTE]Bro, you're beyond any league. And Smoothy is a very nice guy. I think he was the one who was distracted when we played pool, that's why he thinks I'm a good player.

Smoothy, you should meet MD, you'll see that he has a way to score with his sticks (pun intended).

Now that it's been years ago, I can confess that I succeeded in taking that photo. I'm sorry bro, it must have been under the influence of Jack or Johnnie.

I'll pass on the Classic debate, I find it's a good way to round off a long day picking up freelancers around the Pasar Baru / Lokasari area and if you just want a cold beer, watch some titty dancers and end with an uncomplicated bit of houghmagandie, it will fit the bill. It's basically a big North Jakarta knocking shop and it does what its says on the tin, nothing more nothing less.

As regards Blok M I have been going there since 2003, around the time My Bar opened and used to think it was paradise on earth, literally hordes of young totty jamming Dee's and later My Bar from 9 pm onwards, I really couldn't get enough. The odd thing was even then (as Smoothy pointed out, and as he has been saying so since then) the regulars all said it wasn't as good as it was back in the day and that it had lately gone to pot, I used to just mutter under my breath about played out old has beens who wouldn't know a good thing if they saw it.

Well, now I am a jaded old trooper (unlike Menteng, who though older than me never seems to get jaded), I prop up the bar counter and bemoan the passing of the "real" Blok but oddly enough I can still get tempted into the VIP room by the latest new dancer, or still spend the evening getting the phone numbers of bar staff who, perish the thought!, aren't chicken but who still seem oddly willing to hook up with a bloke they hardly know for an afternoon of sex if there's a bit of monetary consideration on the side.

So like everything it's horses for courses, the Blok has moved on, if you're a younger guy there's a lot better places to check out, but then we didn't have Tinder, Skoot, Facebook and Whatsapp back in 2003.

Although one thing has certainly improved about the Blok, the quality of girls standing on the street corners, not my usual preferred means of getting acquainted with young woman but while passing through it seems to me there are a couple of hotties there.

Thanks mates for the comments. The nays have it. Unless anyone has a favorite less-traveled Asian paradise I should consider, I'm Burma bound.

(I think I good there in my usual beer-stained singlet, tight ripped sweaty gym shorts and Birkenstocks, but I always pack some cheap Brut aftershave.).

[QUOTE=IllusionHeart;1737187]LA guy, you are right. My recommendation is not comparative as I have stayed only at the kota property. When I was booking I got a better rate then Harmoni and this hotel was a decent green property which I found so during my 5 days. I did not speak about the room as I had booked the executive room, need little more space then the usual cramped room. All said the staff at the hotel is extremely courteous. Get blue bird taxi from the hotel, the night staff know all the usual entertainment joints hence no hassle of figuring it out especially for a newbie like me. Women to room is no problem.

Forex across the road. All America fast food joints within walking distance. These are few of the reasons I suggested this hotel. It is not that Harmoni or any other hotel is not good.[/QUOTE]Well, I've been in Mercure Kota twice.

First time 12/2014 was excellent and second time 01/2015 was far from the first experience so I wrote a letter to the manager.

My favourite food place was the Chinese restaurant just some steps north and I avoided the American food joints.

The massage girls give a really good massage and are up for HJ to FS, depending on the girl. But always expensive, HJ starting at 700 k.

Dee

[QUOTE=Hilo77;1740765]

So like everything it's horses for courses, the Blok has moved on, if you're a younger guy there's a lot better places to check out, but then we didn't have Tinder, Skoot, Facebook and Whatsapp back in 2003.
.[/QUOTE]I've got to sympathise with one of the previous posters as first time impressions of Blok M are often disappointing. My first trip to Blok M certainly wasn't much fun.

A Frieslander uncle staying with our family offered to treat me to some English language books. This would involve a day out in his Opelette and a long journey down south from leafy Cikini to the Kavelings of Kebayoran. After a quick visit to the book shop and a purchase of Treasure Island my Om Van Loon proclaimed it was time for a beer and pahit. He said I was too young for the bar despite my protestations and abandoned me, locked up in his hot dirty Opel. About 3 hours of waiting and waiting in Faletehan (and half way through Treasure Island) my Uncle appeared with a sweat and smile on his face. I refused to visit Blok M with him ever again on his weekly sojourns.

But somehow about two years later I ended up there again. I met a blok M regular. A part german lady called Ulla who lived in the new Ragunan Zoo and had brought along a baby monkey in a nappy for a drink, I discovered Blok M could be fun. In those days the most famous character in Blok M was called Clemens. He was a very good natured Hornbill bird that wandered from shop to bar to shop. He scared the shit our of any newcomers especially the hardy oilmen.

Although only chest height to the pool tables, it became my new hobby. A wasted youth. The Brits did explain they wanted to teach me how to play pool "properly" after each foul by shouting and pointing rudely to play the bloody ball behind the line of the Dee.

My Blok M highlight was the memorable day I reached a certain age and my balls litterly dropped. At the back of the Snooker hall two young girls gave me what the colonials called an elephant bath followed by a rub down.

When Clemens passed away there was talk of fundraising for a statue. Does anyone know what happened to Clemens statue?

I've been visiting that Street of broken dreams for nigh on 35 years. On my last visit two months ago I was pleased to see that the. Sportsman's was being converted back into a Coffee shop, it also seemed as if the cartel operation of child beggars and musicians has finally been expelled. Oh and a young fresh British Graduate all gadgeted up with his google knowledge of Jakarta also tried to teach me with great animation how to play pool "properly" and demanding I place the ball behind the line of the Dee.

Tambora DJ.

[QUOTE=SteelBaton;1740689]I'm seeking confirmation from some bros who have local experience about the situation during Ramadan. Having RTFF and done a few other searches my conclusions are the following:

- mongering is possible, but have reduced expectations.

- youngest girls will be home with their families, so expect 25-30 yrs, with a good amount of MILFs.

- some venues like BATS will still have good offerings, but again olde, more independent ladies.

- places like (the much discussed) Classic which seems to have more of the young (if starfish) hotties will have very few options compared to their normal menu.[/QUOTE]1. Mongering is still active, but probably operating at 20% less capacity. Music starts later at venues (9 pm) and close earlier (sometimes midnight, no later than 2 am). The first and last 2 days of ramadan ALL places are CLOSED since it's the holiest days (I. E. No fucking!

2. Places like Hotel Travel and Classic, which have young fresh gals, mechanical service, and cheap 3 somes are still active, and will have a decent selection, subject to above caveat. I read a recent report that at 6 pm had over 40 gals, possibly more at 8 pm peak time.

3. Hotel Bars like BATs and CJs will still be open, and are good options during Ramadan, although they have more MILFs than young fresh gals.

Bottom Line, you should go, unless your 3 days land SQUARELY on the last 2 days of ramadan, in which case all entertainment is closed and you should avoid.

Even living in Jakarta, I like to get out of town during Ramadan.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1740658]She's the one with the really hot body, and most popular in the back VIP room. She has an indo boyfriend, so I don't think she ever does take out. As hot as she is, I don't like her personality. It's similar to the girls at Hotel Travel's personalities. No charm. You are better off sticking with the girls with the better personalities.

This is the picture of her from the My Bar Calendar. Unfortunately, it doesn't show her best assets - her ass, pussy and legs.[/QUOTE]Doesn't look familiar to me. Maybe next time.

[QUOTE=LAGuy5;1740546]Maybe two years ago or more, they were closed for a period for what were referred to as renovations. This was based on what I read either on this site or elsewhere and because it was not at that time on my "circuit" I didn't know about the closure from direct experience. But I'm quite confident this did happen. I'm not sure the extent of the renovations, but the layout of the bar, etc. did seem a bit different when I went there recently compared to my (rather weak) memory of the layout a few years ago.

Edit: I now see it was four years ago, http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?965-Jakarta&p=1159787&highlight=Maribaya+renovations#post1159787. But I suppose it is possible the scheduled renovations never happened.[/QUOTE]The place looks unchanged to me. If they did anything maybe they did it discreetly.

Hello everyone,

I have been reading the forum at least the last 27 pages but couldn't find any information about any Russians or Moroccans ladies out there. Is there any in Jakarta or am better off sticking with the local goods? Is there.

Any premium pussy that I can get a hold off instead of going to BATS and CJ's like high class escort agency or something? My budget is not a problem given that she is a stunner.

You will not find any Moroccans, but you can find Russians at pretty much every high end brothel in town. Try Alexis and Malioboro, but honestly they are all over town in many different places.

In this world, I don't think there are any more beautiful girls than Russian. However, I'll let you in on a little secret. The local Indonesian girls are better in bed. For the money you spend on a robotic Russian girl, you can get a fantastic local LBFM.

[QUOTE=Travel636;1741023]Hello everyone,

I have been reading the forum at least the last 27 pages but couldn't find any information about any Russians or Moroccans ladies out there. Is there any in Jakarta or am better off sticking with the local goods? Is there.

Any premium pussy that I can get a hold off instead of going to BATS and CJ's like high class escort agency or something? My budget is not a problem given that she is a stunner.[/QUOTE]I'd agree with Smoothy when he says the Russians are robots and have possibly the most stuck-up and arrogant attitude of the female species in earth, but you'll find them in Malioboro, Alexis, Classic Bunker and Sumo Spa. At Sumo in Kelapa Gading they go for 1. 3 juta last time I went, which is the best deal in town.

As for Moroccans, Go to De Leila or Three Horse. Prices range from 3 juta upwards (the prettiest ones won't settle for less than 5 juta).

[QUOTE=UsPete;1740863]I've got to sympathise with one of the previous posters as first time impressions of Blok M are often disappointing. My first trip to Blok M certainly wasn't much fun.

A Frieslander uncle staying with our family offered to treat me to some English language books. This would involve a day out in his Opelette and a long journey down south from leafy Cikini to the Kavelings of Kebayoran. After a quick visit to the book shop and a purchase of Treasure Island my Om Van Loon proclaimed it was time for a beer and pahit. He said I was too young for the bar despite my protestations and abandoned me, locked up in his hot dirty Opel. About 3 hours of waiting and waiting in Faletehan (and half way through Treasure Island) my Uncle appeared with a sweat and smile on his face. I refused to visit Blok M with him ever again on his weekly sojourns.

But somehow about two years later I ended up there again. I met a blok M regular. A part german lady called Ulla who lived in the new Ragunan Zoo and had brought along a baby monkey in a nappy for a drink, I discovered Blok M could be fun. In those days the most famous character in Blok M was called Clemens. He was a very good natured Hornbill bird that wandered from shop to bar to shop. He scared the shit our of any newcomers especially the hardy oilmen.

Although only chest height to the pool tables, it became my new hobby. A wasted youth. The Brits did explain they wanted to teach me how to play pool "properly" after each foul by shouting and pointing rudely to play the bloody ball behind the line of the Dee...[/QUOTE]You are talking late 60's, early 70's here? Clemens, I've never met unfortunately. I am too much of an irregular visitor. I've always liked the blok. Even on the first visit. But, back then, it was dissappointing for other reasons. There was talk about this new deadly virus. At least 90% of the Thai working girls had it. And bareback-galore blok M? One could only imagine. Spooked by the hearsay, I would cover up, not kiss and after each session, I 'd spend an hour in the shower with Dettol as best friend. Crazy.

A good time to go? I'm solidifying the dates tomorrow morning for a hop around SEA from roughly 20 July-5 August, and I'm wondering if it's worth fitting into my plans. I'm doing HCMC-PP / SR-AC, and given the relatively dirt-cheap nature of the detour, I was wondering if the time of year would make it a wash. As an aside, will I have much more trouble as a Black monger here compared to say Thailand / PI? I'm mid-20's, not-in-the-best-shape-but-not-completely-buggered-either, dress clean, smell nice, and carry cash; that seems to be a winning combination most other places.

From what I understand, everything is closed tonight (July 3) in Jakarta for something called Nuzhulur Qur'an.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1741730]From what I understand, everything is closed tonight (July 3) in Jakarta for something called Nuzhulur Qur'an.[/QUOTE]That's tomorrow (Saturday, 4th July) not today.

If a chic asks for 1.5, you could easily get her down to 1 this way, as Saturdays are when they make their money.

Thanks Egy Monger and Smoothy, everything is will noted but some questions come to my mind.

Are the hotels in Jakarta all green? Especially that I'm looking to book in a 5 star hotel (Ritz or Shangrila,. Etc), are they going to make a fuss if am picking a girl or two to my room every now and then? Should I bribe someone in advance?

[QUOTE=Travel636;1742022]Thanks Egy Monger and Smoothy, everything is will noted but some questions come to my mind.

Are the hotels in Jakarta all green? Especially that I'm looking to book in a 5 star hotel (Ritz or Shangrila,. Etc), are they going to make a fuss if am picking a girl or two to my room every now and then? Should I bribe someone in advance?[/QUOTE]No, only sharia hotels make a fuss.

[QUOTE=Travel636;1742022]Thanks Egy Monger and Smoothy, everything is will noted but some questions come to my mind.

Are the hotels in Jakarta all green? Especially that I'm looking to book in a 5 star hotel (Ritz or Shangrila,. Etc), are they going to make a fuss if am picking a girl or two to my room every now and then? Should I bribe someone in advance?[/QUOTE]Actually, two of the better-known monger locales are bars/clubs in 5-star hotels, i.e., BATS and CJs, if this provides any perspective. For example, BATS is located in the Shangila. And only the "sharia hotels" (as they were referred to by another poster in this thread), would place any restrictions on this (although I can't speak to whether some of the hotels would object to bringing two girls at the same time to one's room). And the odds of inadvertently booking into a "sharia hotel" by random chance is very low, and probably non-existent if one is looking at well-known 5-star hotels.

And no bribe needed anywhere as far as I know.

[QUOTE=LAGuy5;1742571]And the odds of inadvertently booking into a "sharia hotel" by random chance is very low, and probably non-existent[/QUOTE]Exactly. All hotels in Jakarta are girl friendly except those strange Sharia hotels that you would never stay at even by accident.

However, you could possibly stay at a Sharia hotel if you went out of your way to find one. If you are up for a Challenge and like to live on the edge, perhaps you could stay at a Sharia hotel. I've never tried this and it's just a thought, but it may work. When you arrive a the Sharia hotel, have a prostitute check in with you wearing one of those all black Saudi woman outfits that cover their entire body and face. You can claim she is your wife. After that, just have whatever prostitute you bring to the hotel wear the same outfit. How will they ever be able to tell it's not the same girl?

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1742614]Exactly. All hotels in Jakarta are girl friendly except those strange Sharia hotels that you would never stay at even by accident.

However, you could possibly stay at a Sharia hotel if you went out of your way to find one. If you are up for a Challenge and like to live on the edge, perhaps you could stay at a Sharia hotel. I've never tried this and it's just a thought, but it may work. When you arrive a the Sharia hotel, have a prostitute check in with you wearing one of those all black Saudi woman outfits that cover their entire body and face. You can claim she is your wife. After that, just have whatever prostitute you bring to the hotel wear the same outfit. How will they ever be able to tell it's not the same girl?[/QUOTE]Oh, the old prostitute in a Saudi burka trick. Just remember that to make it realistic enough to get away with one has to restrict himself to 300 lb. women/prostitutes with that distinct "Saudi burka waddle."

I, myself, would rather just be less adventurous and not stay at a sharia hotel.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1742614]*snip* If you are up for a Challenge and like to live on the edge, perhaps you could stay at a Sharia hotel. I've never tried this and it's just a thought, but it may work. When you arrive a the Sharia hotel, have a prostitute check in with you wearing one of those all black Saudi woman outfits that cover their entire body and face. You can claim she is your wife. *snip"[/QUOTE]Thanks for bringing me a morning laugh, Smoothy! You are a sick little puppy. Best, TTG.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1742614]Exactly. All hotels in Jakarta are girl friendly except those strange Sharia hotels that you would never stay at even by accident.

However, you could possibly stay at a Sharia hotel if you went out of your way to find one. If you are up for a Challenge and like to live on the edge, perhaps you could stay at a Sharia hotel. I've never tried this and it's just a thought, but it may work. When you arrive a the Sharia hotel, have a prostitute check in with you wearing one of those all black Saudi woman outfits that cover their entire body and face. You can claim she is your wife. After that, just have whatever prostitute you bring to the hotel wear the same outfit. How will they ever be able to tell it's not the same girl?[/QUOTE]Sofyan hotels are the sharia ones that come to my mind. Looking for the nearest hotel with a date, I arrived at the Sofyan in jalan Cut Mutia. We could not check in because they insisted on a document that shows that my date and I live at the same address. So your idea may not work.

[QUOTE=Menteng;1742729]Sofyan hotels are the sharia ones that come to my mind. Looking for the nearest hotel with a date, I arrived at the Sofyan in jalan Cut Mutia. We could not check in because they insisted on a document that shows that my date and I live at the same address. So your idea may not work.[/QUOTE]The Sofyan Hotel Minangkabau owners also run the Menteng Group Hotels ironically. So I'd avoid them as well. These are mainly crappy 2/3 star hotels with in-house massage girls. The only hotel in this group you could make the mistake of booking is probably the Royal Kuningan (which doesn't even have a bar) though it claims to be 4 star.

[URL]http://mentenggroup.********.co.uk/view/classic[/URL]

Although I've been using social media reference to wechat had me curious enough to sign up, but using it is perplexing me. I find myself needing the training wheels primer. How do I move away from my current location to see what's somewhere else? Also, all I see are profile pics and a distance. Is there any way to see who is offering services without having to open up each and every profile? It looks very labor intensive, but I'm also cognizant of my basking in ignorance here, so if anyone can chime in with a thought or two on navigating this app that would be great. The Youtube tutorials seem mostly useless from the standpoint of the monger. Thanks!

[QUOTE=Menteng;1742729]Looking for the nearest hotel with a date, I arrived at the Sofyan in jalan Cut Mutia. We could not check in because they insisted on a document that shows that my date and I live at the same address.[/QUOTE]What did you do then? Rush to the photoshops just down the road from Sarinah and have a fake photo ID made up for her?

Just to explain USPetes comment. The Menteng Hotels are definitely banging hotels. Hence the irony.

They are well known in Jakarta that these hotels are very popular amongst unmarried couples.

Also, these are where Iguana and Tiga Kuda bars are located. Both low level hooker joints.

[QUOTE=UsPete;1743020]The Sofyan Hotel Minangkabau owners also run the Menteng Group Hotels ironically. So I'd avoid them as well. These are mainly crappy 2/3 star hotels with in-house massage girls. The only hotel in this group you could make the mistake of booking is probably the Royal Kuningan (which doesn't even have a bar) though it claims to be 4 star.

[URL]http://mentenggroup.********.co.uk/view/classic[/URL][/QUOTE]

Oh that is too funny, so the guys that run the anal-retentive, holier than thou shariah hotels just also happen to run the biggest chain of sleazy, short-time hotels in central and east Jakarta with karaoke, in house massage and bars catering to Arab mongers thrown in for good measure?

Seriously, you have got to love this town.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1743087]What did you do then? Rush to the photoshops just down the road from Sarinah and have a fake photo ID made up for her?[/QUOTE]Hotel Mega Proklamasi wasn't that far away.

(Mega hotels, another chain of fukc-friendly hotels).

[QUOTE=Talion;1743081]Although I've been using social media reference to wechat had me curious enough to sign up, but using it is perplexing me. I find myself needing the training wheels primer. How do I move away from my current location to see what's somewhere else? Also, all I see are profile pics and a distance. Is there any way to see who is offering services without having to open up each and every profile? It looks very labor intensive, but I'm also cognizant of my basking in ignorance here, so if anyone can chime in with a thought or two on navigating this app that would be great. The Youtube tutorials seem mostly useless from the standpoint of the monger. Thanks![/QUOTE]Well, first of all put a positive profile picture of yourself. Post some pictures in your timeline, like the hotel, your room. May be a single toothbrush "looking for a companion" .

Then put your status to something like "oh, I need a massage, plus."

And the rest either is waiting or looking through other profiles. If you have some pressure better look through the profiles.

Changing the location is possible with special Apps for location spoofing.

Dee

[QUOTE=DeeKa;1743428]Well, first of all put a positive profile picture of yourself. Post some pictures in your timeline, like the hotel, your room. May be a single toothbrush "looking for a companion" .

Then put your status to something like "oh, I need a massage, plus."

And the rest either is waiting or looking through other profiles. If you have some pressure better look through the profiles.

Changing the location is possible with special Apps for location spoofing.

Dee[/QUOTE]Thanks, that helps. I was afraid I was an idiot, but apparently I'm not as dumb as I thought I was for being unable to figure out how to shift the location. .

Hi Guys, I've got a layover in Jakarta Oct 13 and would really like to have all night with a pretty, busty Indo girl. The one I used to see there apparently has a boyfriend now. I'm thinking of staying at Classic. Any recommendations or referrals greatly appreciated.

[QUOTE=Talion;1743081]Although I've been using social media reference to wechat had me curious enough to sign up, but using it is perplexing me. I find myself needing the training wheels primer. How do I move away from my current location to see what's somewhere else? Also, all I see are profile pics and a distance. Is there any way to see who is offering services without having to open up each and every profile? It looks very labor intensive, but I'm also cognizant of my basking in ignorance here, so if anyone can chime in with a thought or two on navigatingThanks![/QUOTE]Talion provides good advice. You need to both be seeking and have a profile that will attact the working girl or her agent to contact you. I havent used WeChat in Indo, but I assume it works pretty much the same as other parts of SEA. For seeking, just scan the photos and the tag lines. Usually a working will use a saucy photo and say something about massage. Just click on everyone of those and start trying to connect. For your own profile, use tag line that makes it clear what you're looking for.

The location thing is a hassle and I haven't tried to spoofing apps. Good luck, but expect lots of fake photos. But you can do a video call from the app to see her in real time. All free.

I find the app the most helpful for staying in touch with a girl you like. I ask every girl for her weChat ID as soon as I meet her. The app is great because even if she loses her phone you can still get in contact. Plus you can sendandreceive photos and videos. Use video chat to actually see the girl before you invite her to your room. Lastly, I use the favorites feature to store my photos and phone numbers, hotel cards, etc. If you make your sign in a bogus email account rather than your phone number you can checking anytime from any smartphone.

Traffic in Jakarta must be fantastic this week!

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1747586]Traffic in Jakarta must be fantastic this week![/QUOTE]Well we will probably find out in a day or so when those who are now in cars in Jakarta finally make it a few kilometers to their destinations and can then post something.

Hi guys!

New here, anyone knows forum user Fisherman and how to find him here? Apparently he can arrange models and artists in Jakarta.

Thanks

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1747586]Traffic in Jakarta must be fantastic this week![/QUOTE]Some years ago I was in Kalimantan for work and since everybody on the project went home for Idul Fitri and all work ceased we poor westerners decided it would be prudent to spend that period in Jakarta. It was a unique experience. Nearly empty roads, much to the delight of the taxi drivers, and clear skies. From the 10th floor of my hotel I could clearly see the mountains South of Jakarta, which normally is impossible due to the smog.

[QUOTE=KindDick;1747909] Apparently he can arrange models and artists in Jakarta.
[/QUOTE]I don't know Fisherman, but JAD also has that kind of info (if he's still making such arrangements). I don't do those type of hook ups personally, but I do know local "talent agents" who take care of that kind of thing. There are also other web sites that are in Bahasa that specifically list those type of girls. The prices are not cheap. Which girls are in you interested in? If you are just interested in any model or artist, that is very easy to arrange. If you want Jupe or Luna Maya, that's not so easy.

[QUOTE=KoperenKarel;1747920]Some years ago I was in Kalimantan for work and since everybody on the project went home for Idul Fitri and all work ceased we poor westerners decided it would be prudent to spend that period in Jakarta. It was a unique experience. Nearly empty roads, much to the delight of the taxi drivers, and clear skies. From the 10th floor of my hotel I could clearly see the mountains South of Jakarta, which normally is impossible due to the smog.[/QUOTE]That's the only good thing about staying in town for Idul Fitri. No traffic, no smog, but no girls.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1747941]That's the only good thing about staying in town for Idul Fitri. No traffic, no smog, but no girls.[/QUOTE]Distinctly less, but it was better than staying in Kalimantan. In Jakarta you could go and get a beer and have a go at one of the few girls who hadn't gone home. I rember going to Melawai twice. There were some girls who had not gone home and had rented a room together. Not the optimum, but it worked.

[QUOTE=KoperenKarel;1747920]Some years ago I was in Kalimantan for work and since everybody on the project went home for Idul Fitri and all work ceased we poor westerners decided it would be prudent to spend that period in Jakarta. It was a unique experience. Nearly empty roads, much to the delight of the taxi drivers, and clear skies. From the 10th floor of my hotel I could clearly see the mountains South of Jakarta, which normally is impossible due to the smog.[/QUOTE]When I earlier suggested it would take a very long time to get anywhere in Jakarta this week, I was recalling that on or around Idul Fitri there were massive traffic jams in Jakarta a few years ago. Maybe it was another day close to the end of Ramadan and not Idul Fitri precisely, but in any event it was explained to me that everyone was out shopping for the end of Ramadan. The most horrendous traffic I ever saw in Jakarta or anywhere else.

So when Smoothy commented the traffic would be great these days, I thought he was being facetious and that is why I responded earlier the way I did.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1747938]I don't know Fisherman, but JAD also has that kind of info (if he's still making such arrangements). I don't do those type of hook ups personally, but I do know local "talent agents" who take care of that kind of thing. There are also other web sites that are in Bahasa that specifically list those type of girls. The prices are not cheap. Which girls are in you interested in? If you are just interested in any model or artist, that is very easy to arrange. If you want Jupe or Luna Maya, that's not so easy.[/QUOTE]Came across JADs site looks like he is still active will try with him. Not really trust web sites but can you refer me to the "talent agents" you know? Money not an issue as long as can get regular face you see on TV or magazines, no necessarily Luna-Jupe level.

Cheers.

Will be heading to Jakarta in August, have read the posts and won't ask any dumb questions (aka "which hotels are guest friendly" but the.

One thing I haven't found is a map or list of regions or addresses for someone who doesn't know Jakarta. Classic? BATS? CJ's? Blok M? Has anyone.

Found (or bothered to make) a map or a list of locations by region / address? Would certainly be helpful to know the layout before choosing a hotel.

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Fish farmer -- check out Natty Bumpos's excellent 2014 Southeast report-- excellent maps of Jakarta.

[QUOTE=FishFarmer;1750649]Will be heading to Jakarta in August, have read the posts and won't ask any dumb questions (aka "which hotels are guest friendly" but the.

One thing I haven't found is a map or list of regions or addresses for someone who doesn't know Jakarta. Classic? BATS? CJ's? Blok M? Has anyone.

Found (or bothered to make) a map or a list of locations by region / address? Would certainly be helpful to know the layout before choosing a hotel...[/QUOTE]I've noticed when I've been writing reports in recent times that the word wrap doesn't work and so you just get one long line of text that goes of the side off the screen and makes it difficult to see what you've written. Perhaps this is why the 'hard return' has been used?

Last night I brought a girl home from CJ's. She insisted on payment upfront, which I refused. She then says it's the new system now and all of them will start doing the same. I told her to fuck off but she wouldn't go unless I gave her 100 k. It ended up with her breaking a bunch of things in my apartment and me giving her a good slapping until a bunch of cops came over to my place trying to extort money through bogus charges she made (which failed, in case you're wondering).

And the day before I also had one who wouldn't give me a blowjob without a condom. She wanted some money but I told her to fuck off.

I do what any local monger would do and kick them out without paying even the so-called "taxi money" scam.

It's totally unreasonable to be expecting payment upfront (guaranteed recipe for poor service and rushing attitude).

I get the feeling we as foreigners are spoiling them. Guys, you should stop spoiling them and making them feel as though we're their little puppies. This is Indonesia after all. They never do this with the local mongers. Hell, if you were in one of the Kota brothels and the chic insisted on a condom you could change her for another one for free.

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It's totally unreasonable to be expecting payment upfront (guaranteed recipe for poor service and rushing attitude).[/QUOTE]If the girl asked for the money up front, I'd do exactly as you did and send her packing. Paying up front is the norm at the cheaper brothels up north, but as you mentioned, you have the mamasan you can talk to if the girl is not to your liking and she will allow you to switch out the girl. I would never pay a free lancer up front. Not in Indonesia or Thailand.

As far as her asking for 100k taxi money, I think you did the right thing not giving it to her. I would have told her "if you had mentioned in the bar that you wanted the money up front, then I would not have taken you home. It's your own fault that we are not doing business, so I'm not paying your taxi." She knows damn well it's not the norm to ask for the money up front in Jakarta. I give them taxi money when we don't follow through with sex for things that are not the girl's fault, but not if it's their fault. Maybe next time she will be more honest in the bar. A few more customers like you who stand up to her and she will stop asking for money up front.

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Please do not apply the "Text Cleanup Script" (Autocorrect) to every single post. It often thrashes perfectly readable text. Thanks![/QUOTE]So true.

Every time I post a report, I must go back and EDIT it, to clean it up, fix carriage returns, write emoticons and smileys (all removed by the autocorrect). Only after the edit fix the report looks how I wished.

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[QUOTE=PStevens999;1750728]Fish farmer -- check out Natty Bumpos's excellent 2014 Southeast report-- excellent maps of Jakarta.[/QUOTE]Any chance you have a link to that post at all? Have been searching by user name and can't find a single post.

[QUOTE=BlackPage;1751776]This autocorrect is an option of the forum platform. I think it should be disabled (humble suggestion to Jackson).[/QUOTE]Not only is it an option: it is an editable option and the editor of this forum has chosen to act as an old fashioned English teacher and added a lot of "rules" to prevent SMS type posts resulting in a total overkill.

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Here is a link to one part of Natty's awesome report. Couldn't find the maps, but I do remember seeing his maps of Jakarta.

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Reading the Jakarta reports it seems at Alexis Hotel, Classic Hotel & Malioboro Hotel each session with a girl only includes "1 shot" which is very similar to Macau saunas. In China though, most "sauna" type places allow for 2-3 shots as long as you can finish within the 60-90 mins.

Has anyone had experience negotiating a slightly higher price for 2 shots at Malioboro, Alexis, etc?

Or for 2 shots is the only option with a freelancer LT situation?

[QUOTE=EgyMonger;1751215]Last night I brought a girl home from CJ's. She insisted on payment upfront, which I refused. She then says it's the new system now and all of them will start doing the same. I told her to fuck off but she wouldn't go unless I gave her 100 k. It ended up with her breaking a bunch of things in my apartment and me giving her a good slapping until a bunch of cops came over to my place trying to extort money through bogus charges she made (which failed, in case you're wondering).
[/QUOTE]IDR 100 K = USD 8.

You are a brave man to risk dealing with an angry hooker and corrupt cops for such a pittance.

Did you enjoy "giving her a good slapping"?

[QUOTE=WrinkleFree;1752256]Reading the Jakarta reports it seems at Alexis Hotel, Classic Hotel & Malioboro Hotel each session with a girl only includes "1 shot" which is very similar to Macau saunas. In China though, most "sauna" type places allow for 2-3 shots as long as you can finish within the 60-90 mins.

Has anyone had experience negotiating a slightly higher price for 2 shots at Malioboro, Alexis, etc?

Or for 2 shots is the only option with a freelancer LT situation?[/QUOTE]Unless you somehow reach a deal privately with the girl it's only 1 shot. There's no 2 shots at Malioboro, Alexis etc.

[QUOTE=DoubleShooter;1752360]IDR 100 K = USD 8.

You are a brave man to risk dealing with an angry hooker and corrupt cops for such a pittance.

Did you enjoy "giving her a good slapping"?[/QUOTE]It's not about the money it's about the principle. If I had given her the money upfront or the 100 k, she'd go and tell the other hookers at CJ's that they can do the same too with other customers. By refusing to do it their way I am at least contributing to the expectation of good and unrushed service.

And yes the slap felt nice especially after seeing my $150 bottle of wine and other items broken to pieces.

[QUOTE=EgyMonger;1752391]It's not about the money it's about the principle. If I had given her the money upfront or the 100 k, she'd go and tell the other hookers at CJ's that they can do the same too with other customers. By refusing to do it their way I am at least contributing to the expectation of good and unrushed service.

And yes the slap felt nice especially after seeing my $150 bottle of wine and other items broken to pieces.[/QUOTE]I am not too sure about the principle here if it is to contribute to "the expectation of good and unrushed service". One ought to think carefully of "principle" in our hobby. Think of what this hooker may tell her friends about her experience with you. Could that not poison the minds of her friends and their friends against punters from your part of the world? I know it is difficult sometimes but I always try my best to keep control of my emotions in situations like that, especially in a foreign country. An attempt to save $8 could end up with a loss of over $150, or worse.

[QUOTE=WrinkleFree;1752256]Reading the Jakarta reports it seems at Alexis Hotel, Classic Hotel & Malioboro Hotel each session with a girl only includes "1 shot" which is very similar to Macau saunas. In China though, most "sauna" type places allow for 2-3 shots as long as you can finish within the 60-90 mins.

Has anyone had experience negotiating a slightly higher price for 2 shots at Malioboro, Alexis, etc?

Or for 2 shots is the only option with a freelancer LT situation?[/QUOTE]I can't speak about Malioboro or Alexis, but I've always gotten multiple shots at Classic. Sometimes 3 if I can manage it within the 1 hour time frame.

[QUOTE=Lion55;1752527]I can't speak about Malioboro or Alexis, but I've always gotten multiple shots at Classic. Sometimes 3 if I can manage it within the 1 hour time frame.[/QUOTE]I have to admit that I do not know if you can get two shots at Classic. One shot with a starfish is enough for me. If the sex was good, I may stay and try for a second round, but it never is. I am normally glad to leave the room soon after the first shot at Classic.

I do get off two rounds at Maribaya, but those girls actually provide good sex.

I read EgyMonger's post about the FL girl that demanded payment up front. I would bet that all of us have dealt with this issue at one time or another. It can be tough negotiating through it. And while we all certainly agree that we don't want to pay up front--and while this girl may have been an absolute *****, there is no excuse whatsoever for "giving her a good slapping" - I don't give a damn what she did. If that had happened stateside, EgyMonger probably would have been prosecuted for assault. I can see how this must have been handled-- when he brags about giving her a "good slapping".

[QUOTE=PStevens999;1752561] the FL girl that demanded payment up front. I would bet that all of us have dealt with this issue at one time or another. [/QUOTE]I can honestly say that I have never had a free lance girl in Jakarta ever ask me for money up front. Not once in almost 20 years and hundreds of free lancers.

In other countries, yes. But not Indonesia.

I'm not saying the chick should be slapped like the old Yankee Doodle Dandy Jimmy Cagney used to do to the chicks in his movies when they got out of line, thrown off a cliff, or physically abused in any way.

However, I would refuse to pay up front, tell her shame on her for not specifying that in the bar. Because now she has wasted both of our time, and ask her to leave. I would prefer that Indonesia retains it's charm rather than end up like places in the Western world where the girls demand the money up front then provide the worst service possible (don't touch me here, don't touch me there) because they already have their money. It's the same thing with contractors. If you are getting work done on your house, I recommend you do not pay the contractor the full amount up front. If you do, you will regret that.

I've never have had a FL ask for money upfront. I've only had one bad experience in Jakarta and it was on my recent trip. I picked up two girls for a threesome, we agreed on 600 k + taxi fare for short time. One girl was great and the other one was horrible. I gave the good girl a 200 k tip while the other girl was in the bathroom and put my finger to my mouth, so she wouldn't say anything to the other girl. As they were about to leave, I then gave them 50 k for the taxi. The bad girl was complaining that it wasn't enough and demanded more money for the taxi plus a tip. There was no way that I was going to tip her for her lousy performance, I then reluctantly took back the 50 k and gave them a 100 k taxi fare. She still complained and wanted more money. I had enough and took back the 100 k and told them to get the fuck out. The girl who I gave the tip to was angry with her friend and tried to convince her to leave, but she refused to leave until I gave her taxi money. I then threatened to call security and they immediately left.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1752624]I'm not saying the chick should be slapped like the old Yankee Doodle Dandy Jimmy Cagney used to do to the chicks in his movies when they got out of line, thrown off a cliff, or physically abused in any way.[/QUOTE]Had she walked out peacefully without breaking my things I'd have just let it be. But I've had a broken wine bottle, tiles and wall painted with hard-to-remove stains of red wine, a broken laptop, vase, mirror and door handle all as a result of her fit of rage. What am I supposed to do? Cheer her for causing upwards of 5 million in damages? A local or Asian monger could have done much worse. Anyway, I hope this isn't a trend of things to come and I just got unlucky with the whole upfront payment thing.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1752624]I'm not saying the chick should be slapped like the old Yankee Doodle Dandy Jimmy Cagney used to do to the chicks in his movies when they got out of line, thrown off a cliff, or physically abused in any way.[/QUOTE]The Roman emperor Tiberius after a night of debauchery with the most beautiful young women in the Roman empire at his cliff-top royal residence in Capri would, in the morning, throw the nubile nymphs 300 feet off the cliffs into the sea below. We men have come a long way in how we treat women but there is still room for improvement.

[QUOTE=Turgid;1752726]We men have come a long way in how we treat women but there is still room for improvement.[/QUOTE]Unfortunately, women have come a long way in forgetting how to take care of their man. That's the main reason western men prefer Asian women these days.

[QUOTE=Turgid;1752726]The Roman emperor Tiberius after a night of debauchery with the most beautiful young women in the Roman empire at his cliff-top royal residence in Capri would, in the morning, throw the nubile nymphs 300 feet off the cliffs into the sea below. [/QUOTE]What a waste. I wish I could have been down there with a net.

When I can, I like to pay upfront in dodgy places, I have been caught out a few times with extortionist bills at karaoke, spa, fish-bowls, massage, fuck-hotels after the deed. However I always tip for good service.

Last time I was in a dirty little fishbowl in the Darmo Pk Ruko SBY, the girl gave a very nice GFE, so I tipped her well, she was such a sweet little thing and was genuinely surprised and happy.

I see there are comments in the bali thread about tipping amounts. Well as far as tips go. I don't give a flying fuck about ruining the market and giving a girl a great tip for great service. They already think bules have alot of money and give tips, so is my occasional good tip for great service going to fuck anything up? - if it does I don't care. Its a service industry and I reward accordingly. Seriously some of you guys quibble over $10 usd for a girl who has no employment prospects, who has a working lifespan of maybe 5 yrs, who is risking her life with STD's, who is sooner or later going to get pregnant to 1 of the 8 guys who fucks her a night and who is doing one of the most degrading jobs in the entire world!

Bad service = no tip.

Back on topic. As for freelancers, same here I have never pay beforehand. Never been asked, but the response would be the same as Egy's.

I have been asked upfront for cash for rent, medical, schooling - (segway coming- this week even before meeting a Skout girl it happened. She wanted 700 k for rent and no sex? Just meet for coffee and hand over the mula!

My 2 rupiah's worth.

[QUOTE=EgyMonger;1752718]Had she walked out peacefully without breaking my things I'd have just let it be. But I've had a broken wine bottle, tiles and wall painted with hard-to-remove stains of red wine, a broken laptop, vase, mirror and door handle all as a result of her fit of rage. What am I supposed to do? Cheer her for causing upwards of 5 million in damages? A local or Asian monger could have done much worse. Anyway, I hope this isn't a trend of things to come and I just got unlucky with the whole upfront payment thing.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=EgyMonger;1752718]Had she walked out peacefully without breaking my things I'd have just let it be. But I've had a broken wine bottle, tiles and wall painted with hard-to-remove stains of red wine, a broken laptop, vase, mirror and door handle all as a result of her fit of rage. What am I supposed to do? Cheer her for causing upwards of 5 million in damages? A local or Asian monger could have done much worse. Anyway, I hope this isn't a trend of things to come and I just got unlucky with the whole upfront payment thing.[/QUOTE]The interesting bit of the story you leave out is how you dealt with the cops. If the girl had no fear about calling the cops it must have meant she had connections and felt reasonably confident that they would back her up, especially when they see that the guy lives in a nice apartment and is clearly flush with cash (and I will pass over the question as to why anyone in their right minds would pay $150 for a bottle of wine, it's like paying $1000 for a call girl, ie ten times too much for what you are getting at the end of the day).

What did you do to convince the cops to believe you rather than her? After all, the only thing they could see was a scene of some violence in which a girl was alleging, correctly, that she had been assaulted, how did you get past that one? Are you very eloquent in Bahasa Indonesia or did money talk?

For the rest of us the lesson is don't take call girls back to your home, why do you want them to know where you live and how much you are worth? You can get a bog standard hotel room in Jakarta for fifty bucks, you only need it for a few hours, you really don't need to impress the girls you know, they don't give you a better class of service if you ply them with expensive wine (as is evident in this case) just pay them the going rate and they will give you the same service as all the other johns get, whether good, bad or indifferent.

When you go to an MP or casa you have to follow house rules. For example in Colombia you pay after the deed whereas in India the norm is that you pay before and in some countries some places require you to pay before while others allow you to pay after. However, if you take a girl away from her place of work to your pad or a love motel the rules should be set by you and the girl despite what the norm may be in that particular city; it is best to set those rules beforehand. In such an instance I insist that that payment be made after service and inform her of that at the time of first contact. I do that in whatever country I am in. Fortunately, I have never had a chica agree to payment after and upon arrival insist on payment before. If that happens we will have an impasse and I will ask her to leave immediately and refuse to pay her taxi fare. However, if I determine that I am dealing with wacko I will count my losses and give her the taxi money. You need to do shit sometimes to prevent worse shit.

[QUOTE=Turgid;1753043]In such an instance I insist that that payment be made after service and inform her of that at the time of first contact. I do that in whatever country I am in. [/QUOTE]I'm guessing you have never been to Indonesia. This type of thing has never been a problem. To mention it to the girl would be redundant (and just putting ideas in their heads) because it's always been the norm that the payment is after the service in Indonesia.

I think this one time for Egy will be a one off. I doubt any of us will experience it in Indo with a free lancer.

I would hate to think that we have to start doing full on negotiating not only for price, but also whether that money is up front or after, and also what is allowed during sex. That's always been the charm of Indonesia. You don't have to mention those things. Hell, until not too long ago, the girls didn't even mention price. The girls just went home with you assuming you would give them the proper "tip", and in the morning you would give them the proper amount. Most times the girls didn't even look at how much money you gave them.

Why keep pushing Indonesia to fall into the same crap category as the western world?

Hello all,

Booked my ticket to Jarkarta yesterday. But then, while going through this forum, I came across some posts on police check ups for ID, Drugs etc. This kinda scared me. I'm not the kinda person to take any chances on this. Would rather cancel my ticket and accept the losses (its non-refundable). I've been to Bangkok many times. Never had to worry about anything. In fact, I didn't carry my passport with me when I went mongering in Bangkok. I always kept it in the safety locker. Is it safe to travel in Jakarta without being hassled by the police for bribe? Will they stop me while coming out from a bar / club and ask for my passport (original)?. What about the drug checks? Scared after reading some articles on the web about drugs getting planted on you. I'm mostly a daytime guy and can restrict myself to places like Hotel Classic and Malioboro. Would really appreciate any advice on this matter.

Thanks

[QUOTE=Hilo77;1753006]why anyone in their right minds would pay $150 for a bottle of wine, it's like paying $1000 for a call girl, ie ten times too much for what you are getting at the end of the day)[/QUOTE]I hope I am still in my right mind, because I have paid $150 USD for a bottle of wine, and even more than that. If you like good wine, no price is too high!

Hello mongers.

Could someone please provide reviews or best bars and pick up points in Jakarta.

Where can we get good free lancers. Maybe disease risk free.

Again humble request and please provide your experience and guidance.

Thanks.

[QUOTE=Always09;1753215]Hello mongers.

Could someone please provide reviews or best bars and pick up points in Jakarta.

Where can we get good free lancers. Maybe disease risk free.

Again humble request and please provide your experience and guidance.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]There is lot of info in the forum. Please do read the forum. All senior members have invested a lot of time exploring places and then made posts here. So please do RTFF.

[QUOTE=DrDoalot;1753089]Hello all,

Booked my ticket to Jarkarta yesterday. But then, while going through this forum, I came across some posts on police check ups for ID, Drugs etc. This kinda scared me. I'm not the kinda person to take any chances on this. Would rather cancel my ticket and accept the losses (its non-refundable). I've been to Bangkok many times. Never had to worry about anything. In fact, I didn't carry my passport with me when I went mongering in Bangkok. I always kept it in the safety locker. Is it safe to travel in Jakarta without being hassled by the police for bribe? Will they stop me while coming out from a bar / club and ask for my passport (original)?. What about the drug checks? Scared after reading some articles on the web about drugs getting planted on you. I'm mostly a daytime guy and can restrict myself to places like Hotel Classic and Malioboro. Would really appreciate any advice on this matter.

Thanks[/QUOTE]It's not likely you will be stopped during a short visit. Even if you did get stopped by the police, the bribe you would have to pay would be less than the cost of cancelling your flight.

[QUOTE=Lefeu;1753131]I hope I am still in my right mind, because I have paid $150 USD for a bottle of wine, and even more than that. If you like good wine, no price is too high![/QUOTE]A bottle of Australian Wine that I pay $7. 00 for in Honolulu, is $40.00 in Bali. Yellow Tail. So $150.00 in Indonesia is no big deal. The duty on imports there is just ridicules.

RL.

[QUOTE=RobertLong;1753297]A bottle of Australian Wine that I pay $7. 00 for in Honolulu, is $40.00 in Bali. Yellow Tail. So $150.00 in Indonesia is no big deal. The duty on imports there is just ridicules.
RL.[/QUOTE]True. But some months ago I noticed a bottle of Cognac Remy Martin XO 750 ML, which is priced about 150 EUR in duty free shops of most airports wordwide incl. Europe and Singapore Changi, sold for 1. 45 M IDR in a shop of Batam!.

That is about 100 EUR at the rate of that time.
Mysteries of Indonesia. Fake? Deteriorated? Stolen? Underground market?

[QUOTE=BlackPage;1753332]True. But some months ago I noticed a bottle of Cognac Remy Martin XO 750 ML, which is priced about 150 EUR in duty free shops of most airports wordwide incl. Europe and Singapore Changi, sold for 1. 45 M IDR in a shop of Batam!.

That is about 100 EUR at the rate of that time.
Mysteries of Indonesia. Fake? Deteriorated? Stolen? Underground market?[/QUOTE]There is nothing free about Duty Free. They pay millions to secure contracts in airports and with that name customers assume that something is free. I am a cognac drinker myself. And I always buy a liter of Hennessy or Remy in Taipei on my way to either Bangkok or Denpasar. Same price as any store in Honolulu.

The same with Cologne or Aftershave, Polo green or red in DF is $95.00, it's only $65.00 in Macys in Honolulu. I always get the perfume sets for the ladies I know but I buy on the flight and get a discount as a gold customer on China Air.

I have never heard of a grey market on cognac. But don't put anything pass the free market in Asia.

RL.

[QUOTE=Lefeu;1753131]I hope I am still in my right mind, because I have paid $150 USD for a bottle of wine, and even more than that. If you like good wine, no price is too high![/QUOTE]Hey, each to their own, I have never been one of these people who feel the need to tell other people how to spend their money but it's just that I have rarely found much of a co-relation between price and the quality of wine (spirits like cognac and whiskey, I accept there is a distinct difference). There's cheap plonk and then there's decent wine, but above $100 a bottle and you really aren't seeing any great difference, there's no way a $500 bottle of wine is ten times better than a $50 bottle (I am of course referring to normal prices, not Indonesian prices).

In the same way that an Rp 80 million-for-two-hours sinetron artis can turn out to be a total starfish, and you can have a great night of unbridled passion with a good time girl fresh up from the kampung for the price of a couple of Long Island Ice Teas, so with wine more often than not you are paying for the prestige rather than any great increment in quality.

The most sublime wine I ever drank was in a little roadside bistro somewhere south of Lyon in early September 1998, it cost a couple of francs a bottle and was simply magnificent. By contrast I was visiting the home of a Chinese businessman in Jakarta once, and to show me what a connoisseur he was he opened a bottle of Chateauneuf de Pape of some supposedly exquisite vintage and for which he paid an astronomical sum, he sipped it with me, rolling his eyes at the sheer delight of the heavenly nectar, I hadn't the heart to tell him it tasted like vinegar.

But like I say, each to their own, you pays your money and you takes your choice.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1752794]Unfortunately, women have come a long way in forgetting how to take care of their man. That's the main reason western men prefer Asian women these days.[/QUOTE]Sometimes I wish there was a like button on this forum. Head of nail, meet hammer.

[QUOTE=Hilo77;1753006]The interesting bit of the story you leave out is how you dealt with the cops.[/QUOTE]Yeah, I was thinking the same when I read the his first post.

Oh, and LOL at all the bleeding hearts saying how bad it was he slapped her. Wake the fuck up to yourselves, the girl went on a rampage in his apartment causing a lot of damage, and you think he should just stand by and calmly ask her to please stop? We don't know the details, but it sounds like she got off lightly. You are not in Kansas anymore Toto.

[QUOTE=Ceegee;1753491]
Oh, and LOL at all the bleeding hearts saying how bad it was he slapped her. Wake the fuck up to yourselves, the girl went on a rampage in his apartment causing a lot of damage, and you think he should just stand by and calmly ask her to please stop? We don't know the details, but it sounds like she got off lightly. You are not in Kansas anymore Toto.[/QUOTE]The guys complaining about that are likely Americans. American men have been brain washed over the past 40 years. I know because I'm one of them. If you look at the old movies, American men slapped women all the time when they got out of line. Even Ronald Reagan did it in the movies. These days, we have it beaten into our heads that it's not acceptable at any time to touch a woman in any way. Even if the woman goes ballistic and burns your house down, you can't touch her. I've never hit a woman in any manner in my life and likely never will. But casting aside the decades of mental conditioning in my life in the USA, and logically reviewing the situation, that chick deserved to be slapped. I think our way of looking at it in the USA is wrong. I agree that you shouldn't "beat" a woman. But to slap her with reasonable force when she is clearly acting destructively towards you or your possessions, in order to let her know that is not acceptable, should be fine.

DrDoalot: The police stops tend to be, or maybe exclusively are, at night. Out of an abundance of caution I always carry my passport in a passport holder in my front pocket and securely tied to a belt loop. It is a PITA but I too dread getting stopped particularly without my passport.

I too generally go out during the day and early evening so avoid most of this. But a couple of times at night I did get stopped, in one instance ending up having to give the criminal in blue (maybe it's not blue in Jakarta, perhaps brown, not sure) a $10 US bribe because I only had a copy of my passport with me.

But I wouldn't cancel a trip over the corrupt police issue unless you were planning on spending all your time at late-night clubs taking ecstasy, which it sounds like you aren't.

Yep, 100% agree. If it had been a man damaging his property and they were in certain states in the USA presumably he would have been within his rights to pull out a gun and use deadly force to stop him. Of course this is Indonesia, and Egy was not packing a gun, I assume!

I'm still dying to know how he dealt with the police though.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1753525]The guys complaining about that are likely Americans. American men have been brain washed over the past 40 years. I know because I'm one of them. If you look at the old movies, American men slapped women all the time when they got out of line. Even Ronald Reagan did it in the movies. These days, we have it beaten into our heads that it's not acceptable at any time to touch a woman in any way. Even if the woman goes ballistic and burns your house down, you can't touch her. I've never hit a woman in any manner in my life and likely never will. But casting aside the decades of mental conditioning in my life in the USA, and logically reviewing the situation, that chick deserved to be slapped. I think our way of looking at it in the USA is wrong. I agree that you shouldn't "beat" a woman. But to slap her with reasonable force when she is clearly acting destructively towards you or your possessions, in order to let her know that is not acceptable, should be fine.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=LAGuy5;1753529]Out of an abundance of caution I always carry my passport in a passport holder in my front pocket and securely tied to a belt loop. It is a PITA but I too dread getting stopped particularly without my passport.
[/QUOTE]I leave my passport hidden somewhere in the room, not necessarily in the room safe either. I would rather hand over $10 once in a while than risk losing my passport. Luckily I have never been stopped so never had to pay the bribe, I actually thought it was higher than that.

[QUOTE=BlackPage;1753332]True. But some months ago I noticed a bottle of Cognac Remy Martin XO 750 ML, which is priced about 150 EUR in duty free shops of most airports wordwide incl. Europe and Singapore Changi, sold for 1. 45 M IDR in a shop of Batam!.

That is about 100 EUR at the rate of that time.
Mysteries of Indonesia. Fake? Deteriorated? Stolen? Underground market?[/QUOTE]That's because Batam is in a Free Trade Zone, hence there is no import tax levied on the items unlike most other places in Indonesia. If the exporting country then also has a tax free agreement with Indonesia the only factor is profit of the companies involved. That's also the reason why cars in Batam are very cheap and you are able to actually import your car into the island, something nearly impossible in the rest of Indo. Small problem; if you wish to take the car of the island you are required to pay the full amount of taxes, so event he ferry to Bintan won't be possible in that imported car.

If you know where to look, cheap black market alcohol can be had in Jakarta as well, at nearly the same prices. The way it works, legit companies import 100 boxes of item x, pay the duty on 80% of it and sell 20% on the black market at higher margin rates for them. Still cheap if you compare it to the selling prices in most shops, see list below for example. First price is box, second per bottle. No, contacts are not available through PM.

[QUOTE]
SUPER PREMIUM
63 Martell Chanteloup 6 x 70 cl 25,000,000 4,166,667
64 Martell Cohiba 3 x 70 cl 25,000,000 8,333,333
65 Martell Creation 3 x 70 cl 18,000,000 6,000,000
66 Martell Lor 1 x 70 cl 62,000,000 62,000,000
67 Remy Martin Louis XIII 1 x 70 cl 45,000,000 45,000,000

PREMIUM
68 Courvoisier XO 12 x 70 cl 22,000,000 1,833,333
69 Martell Cordon Bleu 12 x 70 cl 23,000,000 1,916,667
70 Martell Cordon Bleu - Large 12 x 100 cl 32,000,000 2,666,667
71 Martell XO 12 x 70 cl 29,000,000 2,416,667
72 Remy Martin XO 12 x 70 cl 25,000,000 2,083,333

V.S.O.P
73 Courvoisier Premier Reserve 12 x 70 cl 12,500,000 1,041,667
74 Martell VSOP 12 x 70 cl 9,000,000 750,000
75 Remy Martin VSOP 12 x 70 cl 9,000,000 750,000

PREMIUM PACKING PRICE/CASE PRICE/BOTTLE
120 Absolut Elyx 12 x 75 cl 7,000,000 583,333
121 Ciroc 12 x 75 cl 8,000,000 666,667
122 Grey Goose Original 12 x 75 cl 6,000,000 500,000
123 Kettle One 12 x 75 cl 4,300,000 358,333
124 Russian Imperial 12 x 75 cl 6,000,000 500,000
125 Russian Platinum 12 x 75 cl 4,500,000 375,000
126 Skyy 90 12 x 70 cl 6,500,000 541,667
127 Smirnoff Black 12 x 75 cl 4,000,000 333,333

[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Ceegee;1753577]I leave my passport hidden somewhere in the room, not necessarily in the room safe either. I would rather hand over $10 once in a while than risk losing my passport. Luckily I have never been stopped so never had to pay the bribe, I actually thought it was higher than that.[/QUOTE]The one time--a few years ago--I was pulled over in a Blue Bird taxi the criminal in blue (or brown) first asked for $100 US. I laughed (as in that's not going to happen) and ended up giving him 100,000 rupiah, around $10. I had heard back then you could get away with 50,000, but it didn't really matter to me; I just wanted to get out of there.

These days the amount I hear most often is 100,000, which is now less than $8. But the idea of dealing with corrupt cops makes me want to avoid situations where it is likely to happen (e.g., for awhile I knew where in North Jakarta they were likely to be posted during the evenings and so avoided those routes).

[QUOTE=Ceegee;1753577]I leave my passport hidden somewhere in the room, not necessarily in the room safe either. I would rather hand over $10 once in a while than risk losing my passport. Luckily I have never been stopped so never had to pay the bribe, I actually thought it was higher than that.[/QUOTE]I completely agree. There is no way that I would recommend carrying your passport around Jakarta with you to try to save 10 bucks on the rare occasion the cops pull you over. I've been pulled over an average of less than once a year. Even if I were pulled over once a month, I still would not carry my passport.

[QUOTE=HihiSter;1753591]That's because Batam is in a Free Trade Zone, hence there is no import tax levied on the items unlike most other places in Indonesia.[/QUOTE]Also the *duty free* shop in Changi Airport is a free trade zone, that is without taxes applied on new prices!

Such a price difference (excl. Taxes) is huge (100 Eur vs. 150 Eur).

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1753612]I completely agree. There is no way that I would recommend carrying your passport around Jakarta with you to try to save 10 bucks on the rare occasion the cops pull you over. I've been pulled over an average of less than once a year. Even if I were pulled over once a month, I still would not carry my passport.[/QUOTE]I take a photo of mine and store it in my Hand Phone. Or you can make a photo copy and carry that with your International drivers license. Never carry your PP for any reason unless you need to clear the airport.

RL.

[QUOTE=RobertLong;1753718]I take a photo of mine and store it in my Hand Phone. Or you can make a photo copy and carry that with your International drivers license. Never carry your PP for any reason unless you need to clear the airport.

RL.[/QUOTE]I would do that, but I worry that if I bring out my cell phone and show the cop a picture, he might scroll through and see all the naked pictures I've taken of the Indo girls I've recently had sex with. Then he'd have me on a pornography charge.

[QUOTE=Ceegee;1753572]Yep, 100% agree. If it had been a man damaging his property and they were in certain states in the USA presumably he would have been within his rights to pull out a gun and use deadly force to stop him. Of course this is Indonesia, and Egy was not packing a gun, I assume!

I'm still dying to know how he dealt with the police though.[/QUOTE]At first they wanted some money to drop charges but I refused to give them. Probably a deal was made that they all get a piece of the pie including the hooker.

I told them what really happened and they believed me. Her version of the story was that I took her by force and raped her!

She didn't tell them she was a freelance prostitute which only made matters worse on her end (technically being an illegal activity according to Indonesian law).

They knew she was full of shit and I even told them they could check the CCTV on the elevator if they wanted to see if I really took her by force.

I spoke in fluent Bahasa which shocked the hooker. Previously I had only conversed in English. Had she known I could speak in Bahasa perhaps she wouldn't have tried to launch bogus charges against me.

[QUOTE=Ceegee;1753572]Yep, 100% agree. If it had been a man damaging his property and they were in certain states in the USA presumably he would have been within his rights to pull out a gun and use deadly force to stop him. Of course this is Indonesia, and Egy was not packing a gun, I assume!

I'm still dying to know how he dealt with the police though.[/QUOTE]Go to youtube and check out Bill Burr (aka Kuby from Breaking Bad), his routine "Why I do this" covers this, 23 minutes in, very funny.

Also "Bill Burr on Rihanna and Chris Brown", every ass kicking doesn't just fall out of the f*ing sky.

I'm not sayin', I'm just sayin'.

I have sessioned with almost all the nationalities of South East Asia. Of these I have a lot of experience with four and would rate their service levels as follows:

(1) Filipinas (the best from my experience);.

(2) Thais / Chinese (I can't rate either above the other);.

(3) Indians.

I do not have enough experience with Indonesians to rate them, have just been with a few. Is there anyone with considerable experience with both Indonesians and Thais to rate their service levels against each other?

[QUOTE=KindDick;1748043].. Money not an issue as long as can get regular face you see on TV or magazines, no necessarily Luna-Jupe level.

Cheers.[/QUOTE]Jupe is scheduled to work at the Emporium club (both her and the club have gone rather downhill over the past 6 months unfortunately) - on one of the upcoming Wednesdays in August.

She will cost the 100 k entrance fee, 600 k for the half hour room deal the fagasans offer, and whatever you deem fit to pay afterwards.

I'm not in town but would be interested in a report.

Dear all Seniors,

I was stationed in Jakarta last year for few months and have quite a lot of funs back then in Blok M (Top Gun or MyBar) and during my 2 months stay there, I have 1 frequent girl who I continuous repeat and her name is Mawar.

And I will be going back to Jakarta on this coming September and I did try to contact her but her mobile is unreachable. I would like to ask if any of the seniors brothers here know any girl that name Mawar still available in Blok M?

Thanks in advance.

[QUOTE=Turgid;1754254]I have sessioned with almost all the nationalities of South East Asia.
(1) Filipinas (the best from my experience);.
(2) Thais / Chinese (I can't rate either above the other);.
(3) Indians.
[/QUOTE]Interesting topic, but given the huge variety of venues, it's difficult to rate the entire nationalities for PFP quality.

For instance, in Thailand, there's everything from $10 streetwalkers and low-end brothels, over Farang oriented beer bars, agogo bars and various "massage" options, to high-end gentleman's clubs for wealthy Thais. Service levels vary vastly, since expectations vary depending on the venue. More expensive is not always better, though (higher price buys selection, surroundings and average looks, not so much service quality).

In my experience (mostly in lower-end venues), Chinese have been almost invariably awful (grab the money and run, provide minimal service if forced), while Thais were at attempting to be somewhat agreeable, even at the low end. As for Indonesians, I don't have extensive experience, but their attitude seems more similar to Thais than to Chinese for me. They make some effort to get along, and provide OK, if not stellar service.

[QUOTE=UsPete;1754363]Jupe is scheduled to work at the Emporium club (both her and the club have gone rather downhill over the past 6 months unfortunately) - on one of the upcoming Wednesdays in August.

She will cost the 100 k entrance fee, 600 k for the half hour room deal the fagasans offer, and whatever you deem fit to pay afterwards.

I'm not in town but would be interested in a report.[/QUOTE]"She" will cost 100 k entrance and 600 k for a half hour room? I don't get the meaning of that. There is no way that anyone is having sex with Jupe for 600 k. She just had that big hit song last year and she's still on TV almost daily.

Hey guys, check out this video Comparison Review of Asian Girls for Single Male Travellers and Tourists:

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwMXheQrRTU[/URL]

Of course this is only one punter's opinion and I find some exceptions to his conclusions notably I think he under rates the beauty of Indonesian girls, but I agree strongly with his rating of Filipinas and Thai girls and the author does present a useful framework for evaluation. I would rate Thai and Indo girls at the top. Pinays a close third while I find Chinese girls the most seriously attractive and unfortunately the most expensive. See what you think. Enjoy.

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;1754577]
I agree strongly with his rating of Filipinas and Thai girls, but I think he under rates the beauty of Indonesian girls. See what you think. Enjoy.[/QUOTE]I would not insist with promoting too much the beauty and sweetness of Indo girls.
Indonesia is a large country, but we don't really want to see it invaded by hords of white punters holding a beer in the right hand and money in the left hand.

(Yes, I declare myself guilty for my reports from Batam).

I don't think there is any doubt that Japanese, Chinese, Korean, and Vietnamese are better looking than Cambodians, Thais, Filipinas, and Indos. But they are more expensive.

Sex with Asian girls is nice, but there's not a lot of passion involved in the sex. The best sex and the worst sex I've ever had in my life has been in South America. Those girls have more passion.

Thanks very much for the response guys. I liked the video and I think it is very much on the money. As I said I have considerable experience with Thais, Filipinas and Chinese. Asiansexdiary rated the women on a number of categories including horniness which I totally agree with in respect of the girls with which I am most familiar. However, what I have found with Chinese women is that they may not be as horny as Thai women but because of their work ethic they provide good service. I could do without the fake moaning but once you are paying they see it as their duty to give you the required performance for your money so I found, for example, that there was no complaining about the length of time that they were being pounded as is done by other nationalities for if you have paid for two hours they acknowledge that you are required to get two hours worth.

I am deeply intrigued by his rating of Indonesians, as being in Thailand right now I am contemplating hopping over there for a lengthy visit. I have sampled only a few Indonesians mostly in Singapore and was happy with them but from my little experience I would not rate their horniness as excellent but again I am not qualified to assess this. The only nationality I would give a 10 to in horniness are Brazilians followed by a 9 to Salvadorean women. I would actually give Filipinas a 7 and Thais a 6 in horniness but rate their service levels as equal. Colombians get an 8 from me in horniness. Beauty is the most important category for me but Japan is way too expensive and there has been a severe crackdown in what used to be one of my favorite stomping grounds, CP in southern China. I would say horniness is perhaps the second most important category for me.

With respect to the variety of service one can get in a single destination I have taken that into consideration in my assessments and from my experience there is indeed a variation between the service provided by the more expensive hookers and the cheaper ones with the former generally providing better service but it is still easy to compare the general rating of one country with that of another. If I do visit Indonesia I will certainly adjudicate on their beauty. In terms of beauty I would rate Filipinas and Thais as equal but I would not argue with anyone who disagrees with this. However, I would dispute anyone who does not agree that Chinese girls are more beautiful than Thais and Filipinas. In terms of expense my experience in China during my last visit there in 2012 was cheaper than my current experience in Thailand; however, that was three years ago and one should take inflation into account and I have been making numerous visits to the high end soapies.

I rate the service levels of Filipinas higher than that of Thais. I would rate the horniness of Thais as 6 and Chinese as 5 but for reasons aforesaid would rate their service levels as equal.

[QUOTE=Turgid;1754733]I rate the service levels of Filipinas higher than that of Thais.[/QUOTE]Have you ever been to the Eden Club in Bangkok? I'd rate the service there the best anywhere in the world.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1754790]Have you ever been to the Eden Club in Bangkok? I'd rate the service there the best anywhere in the world.[/QUOTE]Off thread I know. But the Eden Club is pure PSE to a programme and orchestrated activity which is apparent if you go more than once. Very little creativity and almost no response to a punters's interests.

Now Filiipino girls, IMHO, are far more creative and appreciative!

I dropped by at Berlian earlier today. Yikes! Talk about gone down hill! It always used to be an open couch where you could sit down and talk with the girls, which I think is an important part of the process. I like to see who's going to catch my eye and express a bit of enthusiasm, those are the ones who usually provide good service. But now it's a fish bowl and a pretty lousy one at that, a few bored looking forty year olds fiddling with their mobile phones. I didn't stay.

Any news from Maribaya? Running on full speed again after the Lebaran break?

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1754790]Have you ever been to the Eden Club in Bangkok? I'd rate the service there the best anywhere in the world.[/QUOTE]Have you been to Brazil?

[QUOTE=Turgid;1754845]Have you been to Brazil?[/QUOTE]I'm no expert in Brazil, as I've only been to Rio once for a week. I've been to most countries in South America, and I stated a few posts ago that the best and worst sex I've ever had is in South America. The girls in South America are the most passionate and best in bed (and they are better looking than Asian girls). However, as far as "service" where the girls are basically your willing and energetic servants for an hour and a half, I think Eden Club in Bangkok is the best. Those girls are well trained.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1754898]I'm no expert in Brazil, as I've only been to Rio once for a week. I've been to most countries in South America, and I stated a few posts ago that the best and worst sex I've ever had is in South America. The girls in South America are the most passionate and best in bed (and they are better looking than Asian girls). However, as far as "service" where the girls are basically your willing and energetic servants for an hour and a half, I think Eden Club in Bangkok is the best. Those girls are well trained.[/QUOTE]My tastes are different. I prefer girls who are genuinely horny and will bang my brains out rather than girls who are trained to fake it.

[QUOTE=Turgid;1755076]My tastes are different. I prefer girls who are genuinely horny and will bang my brains out rather than girls who are trained to fake it.[/QUOTE]Well now, I don't consider that to be "service". I consider that to be GFE. There is zero GFE at Eden Club, but they will service the hell out of you.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1755084]Well now, I don't consider that to be "service". I consider that to be GFE. There is zero GFE at Eden Club, but they will service the hell out of you.[/QUOTE]As I said its a matter of taste. For me the best service is from a horny hooker.

[QUOTE=Turgid;1755186]As I said its a matter of taste. For me the best service is from a horny hooker.[/QUOTE]At least we have the topic changed away from national stereotypes.

I find myself agreeing with BOTH Turgid and Smoothy. I like horny hookers and the occasional Eden Club experience. .

TTG.

Hi guys,

I am planning to visit Jakarta on 27th of Aug, kindly Suggest me some erotic Massage parlours.

[QUOTE=TimTimGuy;1755216]At least we have the topic changed away from national stereotypes.

I find myself agreeing with BOTH Turgid and Smoothy. I like horny hookers and the occasional Eden Club experience. .

TTG.[/QUOTE]Horny Hooker, isn't that an Oxymoron? Kind of like Military Intelligence? Or Jumbo Shrimp?

RL.

[QUOTE=RobertLong;1755355]Horny Hooker, isn't that an Oxymoron? Kind of like Military Intelligence? Or Jumbo Shrimp?

RL.[/QUOTE]Not quite. I have met some that quite enjoyed the job. In the Netherlands I knew a Thai woman named Patty who worked in the Zandpad area in Utrecht. She was a hot little number who thoroughly enjoyed having sex. In Jakarta there was (is, actually) Novi kecil in Maribaya and I suspect Shella also was not averse to sex.

The horniest are the African and Aboriginese girls. Mick Jagger sings about it in the Rolling Stones song called Some Girls.

[QUOTE=Seshadhri;1755266]Hi guys,

I am planning to visit Jakarta on 27th of Aug, kindly Suggest me some erotic Massage parlours.[/QUOTE]RTFF! and you'll quickly learn the names of many of the good MPs.

Try Kartika, located down an alley just south of the intersection of Jalan Mangga Besar and Jalan Hayam Wuruk. There are two other decent MPs in the same alley (Berlian and Royal Mas), but Kartika is my choice for the body-to-body nuru-type massage. The girls may not be the best-looking but the massage experience makes up for it. I've attached a street map and shot of the alley where Kartika is located.

Some upper end hotels that have MPs include Malioboro and Alexis, somewhat lower are Hotel Travel and Hotel Classic. Towards the southern part of town is where you'll find D's Place (bar) and Maribaya Spa, on the 6th floor of Hotel Melawai.

All of the above places, and many more, have been written about extensively here on ISG. Now start reading!

[QUOTE=MightySpearsman;1755541]RTFF! and you'll quickly learn the names of many of the good MPs.

Try Kartika, located down an alley just south of the intersection of Jalan Mangga Besar and Jalan Hayam Wuruk. There are two other decent MPs in the same alley (Berlian and Royal Mas), but Kartika is my choice for the body-to-body nuru-type massage. The girls may not be the best-looking but the massage experience makes up for it. I've attached a street map and shot of the alley where Kartika is located.

Some upper end hotels that have MPs include Malioboro and Alexis, somewhat lower are Hotel Travel and Hotel Classic. Towards the southern part of town is where you'll find D's Place (bar) and Maribaya Spa, on the 6th floor of Hotel Melawai.

All of the above places, and many more, have been written about extensively here on ISG. Now start reading![/QUOTE]Thanks a lot bro.

How about Orchardz industri?

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1755441]The horniest are the African and Aboriginese girls. Mick Jagger sings about it in the Rolling Stones song called Some Girls.[/QUOTE]Their all yours my friend. I'll stick to beauty an health.

RL.

Seshadri, I think MS has provided a great response. With a wide variation to do research on.

You might get more responses to your questions if;.

1. you have more than 5 posts.

2. you are a senior member.

3. you narrow down your request. Location, price range, service required, time of day.

4. you NEED to do some RTFF and ask specific questions, seriously a question like "Suggest me some erotic Massage parlours", wastes everyones time. Make it specific like "I have researched Orchardz Hotel and am interested in the butterfly massage. Can anyone give a review on this experience and how long will it take to get to Orchardz Hotel from Grand Indonesia".

Show some respect to senior members who put in alot of effort to their information, reviews and photos- and you will get it back.

[QUOTE=Seshadhri;1755731]Thanks a lot bro.

How about Orchardz industri?[/QUOTE]

Took a domestic flight to Jakarta recently, just a quick trip and had already lined up my 'companionship' for the night. Sitting on the plane about to take off, fiddling with my phone and I look up and see this gorgeous young thing walking down the aisle towards me. Dressed immaculately and stunningly, one of those girls that every single guy on the plane stopped and looked at. Once I peeled my eyes away from her tits, I meet her eyes and she was looking daggers at me looking at her tits.

Then she stops next to me and indicates that she is in the window seat, and I am in the aisle. Of course I hopped to my feet and looked down her shirt while she moved into her seat. Praise the higher powers in the universe that nobody came to sit between us. However this girl was not giving off any positive signs at all. Did everything she could to avoid eye contact, buried her face intently in her phone or in flight magazine, whatever she could find to ignore me. Fuck it, I thought, I already have a girl waiting for me when I get off the plane, don't waste your time on this girl, she probably just finished a short term girl friend contract and she has spent the last few days getting pumped full of cum by some horny guy in the provinces.

Well eventually bordom, or hubris, or my dick (let's be real) took over and I concocted some corny line to break the ice, even broke out a little bahasa. Well fuck me, she was totally into me from that moment on. Walked with her off the plane to the baggage area, got her name card as she has a real job, got her private phone number and she was hinting that she would love to have a drink with me that evening. Sadly I had some business colleagues to meet that evening (!!) so I took a rain check.

I think the prearranged girl waiting at my hotel wondered what was going on when as soon as we got in the room I rammed my cock down her throat and leaned back and closed my eyes.

[QUOTE=Ceegee;1756521]
Then she stops next to me and indicates that she is in the window seat, and I am in the aisle. Praise the higher powers in the universe that nobody came to sit between us. [/QUOTE]How lucky. Of the hundreds of flights I have taken over the years, that has not happened to me even once.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1756550]How lucky. Of the hundreds of flights I have taken over the years, that has not happened to me even once.[/QUOTE]What, getting an empty middle seat? :)

I have had girls make overzealous eye contact on planes before, but striking up conversation with a hottie and having it so well received, is probably a first for me too. The cynic in me still thinks she is in the game.

[QUOTE=Ceegee;1756553]
I have had girls make overzealous eye contact on planes before.[/QUOTE]I have had that in Indonesia as well, but I have never been lucky enough to have one of them sit in my same row. Not once. However, the flight crew is usually fairly easily approachable. It's not difficult to get their numbers if you catch them after the flight.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1756566]I have had that in Indonesia as well, but I have never been lucky enough to have one of them sit in my same row. Not once. However, the flight crew is usually fairly easily approachable. It's not difficult to get their numbers if you catch them after the flight.[/QUOTE]I have often wondered about them. A couple of times I have gone to the back of the plane to make idle chit chat with them, but never got the one I wanted alone, and was afraid I might get her in trouble if I asked for her number in front of other people she works with.

Once the plane lands I am out of there as fast as I can as I usually have something lined up and waiting for me. Never thought to hang around and try to catch the flight crew walking through the airport.

After a bad experience there many years ago, I went back a few months ago and reported here that I had a great experience with two of the girls there. I mentioned it would now be on my rotation.

Well, last night I arrived with a friend at around 10:40 pm. There were perhaps eight or nine girls there trying to get me to select them, a crew that seemed significantly less attractive than the day shift I am familiar with. I nonetheless picked one, paid my 600,000 rupiah at the desk, and entered the room at 10:45 pm. (I noted the time when the girl looked at her watch while we were at the desk, so I looked at mine as well). The girl showed me the session room, left for a few minutes and then came back and the session started.

Went one round with the expectation of a second as is customary at Maribaya (in other words I didn't extend the first round as much as I normally do at one-shot places), washed up, got a short and rushed massage, and then at 11:17 was informed an hour was up (she pointed at her watch while saying this). I got a bit irritated and said we hadn't been there for close to an hour. So, the massage continued for a few minutes, and then at 11:25 the girl said someone was telling her time was up, and that was the end. In other words after 40 minutes or less the session was over.

I proceeded to leave, did not tip (I almost always do) and had my friend who speaks fluent Indonesian tell the guy who took my money that I had been short-changed on time. His response was the place closes at 11 pm so I couldn't get an hour session. I told him (of course with no expectation of getting any money back) that if they charge 600,000 rupiah for an hour, and only let me have 40 minutes without telling me this in advance (actually the last few were pretty worthless given I was not happy about the girl trying to end the session after about 30 minutes) they should refund 200,000 rupiah. I got back a silly smile along with the ole wai (sorry about the Thai terminology, is it "sembah" in Indonesia?) as though that somehow compensated me.

I now know the place closes at 11 pm; I didn't know that before. Shouldn't I have been informed of this when I at 10:45 pm I picked one of their eight or nine girls vying for my attention? Had they informed me they were going to try to end my session after 30 minutes, I never would have agreed to pay them the 600,000 rupiah, but would have rather headed to Blok M. Am I being unreasonable?

[QUOTE=LAGuy5;1757859] a crew that seemed significantly less attractive than the day shift I am familiar with. [/QUOTE]For whatever reason, the day shift has been drastically better than the night shift for at least the last 10 years at Maribaya. Back in the late 90's and early 2000's, the night shift was rockin', but I can't think of a really good girl on the night shift since around 2003.

I've never heard of the place closing at 11 pm though. That's good to know. In the past, I have taken girls after 11 pm many times and gotten my full hour at Maribaya. But that was when they were open until midnight. Then again, I haven't taken a night shift girl in at least 5 years.

I've had a couple of bad experiences at Maribaya over the years, but not many. I wouldn't recommend the night shift these days though simply due to lack of talent. Day shift is good. It's the only place I know of where you can shag at 10 am.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1757942]<SNIP>
I've never heard of the place closing at 11 pm though. That's good to know. In the past, I have taken girls after 11 pm many times and gotten my full hour at Maribaya. But that was when they were open until midnight. Then again, I haven't taken a night shift girl in at least 5 years.

I've had a couple of bad experiences at Maribaya over the years, but not many. I wouldn't recommend the night shift these days though simply due to lack of talent. Day shift is good. It's the only place I know of where you can shag at 10 am.[/QUOTE]
I always understood Maribaya had two shifts; 11 am until 5 pm and 5 pm until 11 pm, with a bit of overlap if a girl was still busy with a client. I never knew you could already go there at 10 am. Might be good news on some days when the mood hits you. As far as I know (but I may be mis-informed) 11 pm was always closing time. I can recall only one occasion of taking a night shift girl and it wasn't very memorable. As you say: day shift is way better.

[QUOTE=KoperenKarel;1758180]I never knew you could already go there at 10 am. [/QUOTE]Depends on whether the girl arrives that early or not. Not all of them do. I only did it once and it was with Sari long ago. I made sure she was going to be there that early because I had a flight to catch that afternoon. But others have told me they arrive at 10 am. Even 11 am is earlier than any other place in town. I used to like to go to Maribaya during lunch when I was working not to far away. So, I'd normally arrive there around 11:45am for the lunch time shag. I don't know any other place open that early to be able to pull that off.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1758196] I used to like to go to Maribaya during lunch when I was working not to far away. So, I'd normally arrive there around 11:45am for the lunch time shag. [/QUOTE]Oh man, that really hurts. I used to do the same thing. Color me missing Indonesia. TTG.

Once again I have returned to Jakarta for a bit of 'R&R', not so fortunate as some of you who have female companions waiting for you, I need to find
my company myself usually in Blok M.

I am a frequent visitor to Blok M so some of the girls are familiar with me, however on this trip I did mange to meet a few new girls whom I have not seen.

Before (since my last trip). But as usual it's a turn off when they start asking for 1 M, I really don't haggle with them, I know some of you do but I.

Don't. If they ask 1 M, my feeling is that they are really not interested in me so the service will be very routine.

Anyway, did meet a few girls who accepted. 5 M and they were fine, good service and not rushed, some were not that good though but as with

everything you buy, packaging is not always a true picture.

But on this trip I decided to try something I haven't done before and that the 2 girls session. Around the Novotel hotel in GM there are a few.

Managers around. Being cautious about bringing 2 guests back to my room I decided to let the manager do this for me.

I lined up with one of them to bring the guests directly to my room so that I won't have to go through the WOS. She appeared with 3 of them, 1 about a 6/10, one 7/10.

And one 9/10 (very hot). So I chose the two best ones of the group, although I was getting an uneasy vibe from the hottie I still decide to choose her.

Well after the manager left, all the smiles disappeared, they starting talking amongst themselves and although I don't know Bahasa I could tell they were not happy to
be there. And was I ever correct, never had such poor service in all my stays in BKK and Jakarta. They quickly established their rules, "no touching" and if I can't touch
there is not much one can do.

They kept constantly chatting to each other and not even interested in what they were supposed to do. Overall it was a very bad bad experience. And when they
were ready to leave they had the nerve to ask for a tip.

I said to them, BAD service, BAD attitude, BAD performance, NO TIP GET OUT. They weren't too happy but neither was I so it's even.

Can't believe how some of you guys are so lucky to get good service when you have 2 or more guests. I definitely didn't. There must be a method in finding
the right pair for this purpose.

Maybe before I return next time I can figure it out.

[QUOTE=Bkk212;1758793]
Can't believe how some of you guys are so lucky to get good service when you have 2 or more guests. I definitely didn't. There must be a method in finding
the right pair for this purpose.[/QUOTE]Maribaya and Kartika are the only 2 places I would recommend taking 2 girls. When taking 2 in Jakarta at other places, the service normally drops drastically compared to the service you get from just the one girl in the room.

The soapy sandwich at Kartika is something I'd suggest anyone try at least once. It's a unique experience.

Hi,

I am will be visiting Indonesia in 2 weeks time for the very first time. I am meeting a 32 years old married woman who I know from internet, she has very wild fantasies and would like to try threesome. So we are looking for someone between 30 to 45 man who would want to join us in Padang.

Thanks

I did ask earlier for information on Alexis / Malioboro etc and which one was best but someone said RTFF. Well I do read however what I was looking for is something as below. Hope this helps for ones travelling to Jakarta.

Night Life. Very good but getting expensive.

Decide on what you want. Drink and watch the girls dancing / Massage with extras / FS with good expensive girls / Monger around in clubs and pick up free lancers.

If you are looking for clubs where girls dance / looking at local girls exposing try any of the clubs listed which you pull out in 10 best night clubs in google.

However every club has different pricing and quality.

Alexis Spa. Plenty to choose from. You can choose a girl take her to the Jacuzzi and then FS (Maybe 60 minutes) Pricing depends on local / Vietnamese / others. No strip club on this floor. Note this closes at 2:00 pm. So better to go early if you want to have a FS.

If you avail the services of the girl you can get free entry to the club below (1st floor). Club open till 4:00 or 5:00 am.

Malioboro Spa. Plenty of options. Has the club and the girls on the same floor. So you could watch the girls dancing while the mamasan parades the girls for you to choose from. If not interested you can just drink a couple of drinks and watch the dance.

Tease Club. Emporivm- Girls performing the dance does the FS too. Rates vary.

Went to be Fashion hotel. Spa on the 9th floor / club on the 2nd floor.

Orchadz spa. Went for a massage day time. Offers variety of services.

Freelancers BATS / CJ's. Well they are easy pick ups so you don't need to be a stunner.

Night life starts around 9:00 pm. Cost you anything around (50 to 300 USD).

Some have 99% locals so learning Bahasa before visiting Indonesia definitely helps.

All the best Mongers and have a good time. Jakarta has plenty to offer if you are ready to venture out.

[QUOTE=Always09;1759697]I did ask earlier for information on Alexis / Malioboro etc and which one was best but someone said RTFF. Well I do read however what I was looking for is something as below. Hope this helps for ones travelling to Jakarta.

Night Life. Very good but getting expensive.

Decide on what you want. Drink and watch the girls dancing / Massage with extras / FS with good expensive girls / Monger around in clubs and pick up free lancers.

If you are looking for clubs where girls dance / looking at local girls exposing try any of the clubs listed which you pull out in 10 best night clubs in google.

However every club has different pricing and quality.

Alexis Spa. Plenty to choose from. You can choose a girl take her to the Jacuzzi and then FS (Maybe 60 minutes) Pricing depends on local / Vietnamese / others. No strip club on this floor. Note this closes at 2:00 pm. So better to go early if you want to have a FS.

If you avail the services of the girl you can get free entry to the club below (1st floor). Club open till 4:00 or 5:00 am.
[/QUOTE]That should read 2 AM and not PM.

[QUOTE]
Malioboro Spa. Plenty of options. Has the club and the girls on the same floor. So you could watch the girls dancing while the mamasan parades the girls for you to choose from. If not interested you can just drink a couple of drinks and watch the dance.
[/QUOTE]Although the club has some girls, the majority are actually on the 1st floor (or 2nd depending on how you count) on the other side of the building. (The first entrance leads to basically the brothel, the 2nd entrance which is located when you walk 100 meter passed the 1st entrance leads to the club).

You can reach the brothel from the club and visa versa through the 3rd floor, and you would probably be able to get a known mamasan to bring some to you while you're in the club, but the selection is limited in the club and I wouldn't count on the mamasans taste.

[QUOTE]Orchadz spa. Went for a massage day time. Offers variety of services.[/QUOTE]I regularly went to the one at the airport. I usually paid 100 k for HJ, 200 k for BJ and 300 k for FS. Services depend a lot on the girl which you cannot choose in advance, you should pick a number of a board and the GRO will give a short description only. Change is possible but a little embarrassing.

[QUOTE]
Night life starts around 9:00 pm. Cost you anything around (50 to 300 USD).

Some have 99% locals so learning Bahasa before visiting Indonesia definitely helps.

All the best Mongers and have a good time. Jakarta has plenty to offer if you are ready to venture out.[/QUOTE]Pre-dinner / lounge drinks start at 9, but if you want to go clubbing it really only starts going after 12. Prices depends a lot on the person, you might get by with 50 USD for a night but it's not going to bring you far. I would certainly not cap it at 300 USD. In Jakarta, and if you hang in certain Indonesian circles, the sky is the limit. I've experienced the most absurd and crazy nights of my life in Jakarta, this is a city where money can literally buy you anything.

Knowledge of Bahasa Indonesia is definitely a plus and when you reach a sufficient level this will open up a whole new world of freelancers that are rarely discussed on this forum.

After much toing and froing I've finally decided to make my first trip to Jakarta. This city is not for the faint of heart but after making several visits to Kolkata I shouldn't have much problems navigating this metropolis. It is certainly not a walking friendly city; in my travels I like to trek to various destinations on foot for exercise but I won't be doing that here and will depend on my hotel's gym for workouts. In terms of food I suspect I'm going to have some problems here; although I like to sample the local fare I depend heavily on my staples viz steak / ribs, potatoes, beans, mushrooms etc. I have long jettisoned fast foods like hamburgers and chicken and fries, I avoid these foods and these are ubiquitous in Jakarta but good ribs and steak are nowhere to be seen.

Well now for the main course; my decision was between Malioboro and the Classic hotel. After some contemplation I decided on the Classic and took a 'taksi' there, arriving at 8. 30 pm. As I enter the lobby I am greeted by loud music, I don't know how anyone can sleep in this hotel; perhaps the rooms are sound-proofed. I headed for the fifth floor which is where my research on this board says I should start. Took two escalators up then elevator to the fifth. I am given a wristband against the number on which all drinks are entered. As I enter there is a group of girls, about thirty in all seated to the left and there is a band playing to their left. There are no more than about ten punters seated at tables throughout the establishment; there are numerous empty tables and chairs. I take a seat and a mamasan immediately comes up to me and shows me her girls who are in red uniforms and tries to encourage me to choose one.

Now I am not sure whether punters who have visited this establishment are aware that on the other side of the band there is another group of girls; I think it is easy to overlook this group if you sit close to the first group. I told the mamasan that I want to look at all the girls before choosing. I then get my drink and with it in hand I walk to the other group and survey them. A mamasan comes up to me and shows me her girls and laser points one who she says speaks English and is good for me; the girl comes up, I shake her hand and tell mamasan I am still undecided. The mamasan laser points others who come down and this continues with other mamasans and their girls in this group and the other. The girls are mostly 5's, 6's and one or two 7's but I find it very difficult to choose.

I find the attitude of the girls much different from Thai girls. In the soapies some of the Thai girls as long as they can see you will smile at you and try to get your attention. But these girls just sit there looking quite bored. However, when they are called to be introduced they are quite pleasant and smile when they shake your hand. So the idea of only choosing a girl who smiles at you is not applicable here in my opinion. I eventually make my choice not out of having found what I was looking for but more because I did not want to spend more than half an hour looking. I pay the R350,000. The mamasan and girl disappear for five minutes then the girl returns and escorts me to the room. The service girls come and ask if I want a drink, I don't but my girl does and she is brought a soft drink in a can.

The worst part of the evening for me occurred at this point where the girl asks for a tip WTF. We have not undressed yet and she asks for a tip. A huge turnoff for me. Worse than an upsell. I tell her that if she is good she will get a tip after. She does not speak English but she certainly understood my tone and body language. We undress and she washes me in the shower. I dry off go to the bed and await her arrival. She comes onto the bed and I try to kiss her but she shows that she does not want me to although not in an abrupt way. I then allow her to do her thing which was to kiss various parts of my body followed by a CBJ. Her body language showed that she did not like me sucking on her breasts but her attitude in so doing was not obnoxious.

Having eventually secured my erection she mounts me in cowgirl and seems to enjoy it. I then flip her and session in mish for a while which she enjoys even more. We then switch to doggy which I enjoy more but she appears to enjoy less, I then go at it for perhaps more than twenty minutes at which point completion occurs. A few seconds later the buzzer sounds which indicates time up. She heads to the shower and when she's through I do my ablutions. I get dressed while she sits and looks with an air of anticipation. I give her R100,000 and she asks for another R100,000 which I decline. She says thank you and we depart. When I enter the club area the place is almost full, it is now 10.00 pm, I pay my tab and depart.

I would actually rate my selection at about a 5, undressed in the light of the room she looked a lot less appetizing than seated among her colleagues. However, apart from my Thai non-pro in Bangkok (a first for Turgid in many years (I. E. A non-pro)) she had the biggest ass I've had in over two months. The total amount paid for the evening was very reasonable. I will return for there were better looking girls than my choice. However, Malioboro and other clubs await my arrival. By the way you cannot depend on the mamasans here, the mamasan told me the girl spoke English which she clearly did not. Apart from that though I find the mamasans not as obnoxious as described by other punters. I actually find them quite pleasant.

Turgid, Go to Malioboro! The dancers are better than most BKK soapy girls. And more expensive. LOL. Also check out CJ's. A lot of quality FL's on Wednesday. Ladies night. Have a great trip.

[QUOTE=Turgid;1761965]By the way you cannot depend on the mamasans here, the mamasan told me the girl spoke English which she clearly did not. [/QUOTE]I don't think any of the girls at Classic speak English. If they spoke English, they wouldn't be working at such a cheap place.

Sounds like a typical Classic experience though. That's a good description of a visit there.

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;1762000] Also check out CJ's. A lot of quality FL's on Wednesday. Ladies night.[/QUOTE]My vote is for Bats at the Shangrila. ;)

Thanks for the advice Natty and Smoothy. I certainly intend to visit the much touted Malioboro and have psyched myself for the expense, will also give Bats a hit. I did spend 5000 Baht for a Nataree girl, I think that is a little less than 2 M Rupiah which will be my limit for expenditure in any one visit to an establishment in Jakarta and will be done very sparingly.

Oh, and thanks Traveller1234 for your advice.

Initial comparisons between Bangkok and Jakarta.

I have been here for just three days but consider myself capable of making a comparison between the two abovementioned destinations in certain respects.

As has been extolled considerably Bangkok is the more visitor friendly city on which I would say no more.

Women: This can be subjective but there are aspects that can be expressed objectively. In terms of looks my subjective view is Bangkok over Jakarta. In arriving at this conclusion I have not allowed the attire to affect my decision. In terms of girl watching Bangkok is leaps and bounds ahead of Jakarta. In Bangkok you will see tons of chicks in shorts and skimpy clothes showing off their beautiful legs and other assets. I don't think I have seen one woman in shorts here in Jakarta. The majority of women appear to be muslim and are fully attired from head to toe, others are out and about either in jeans or long dresses. However, the derrieres of the Indonesians are far superior to that of the Thai women which can be gleaned even in the demure garbs. This is most pleasing to me as it is a part of the female anatomy that is very important to me and my hobby. Also, the more beautiful Indos I see around are extremely stunning; however, for numbers of beautiful women I would rate the Thais over the Indos.

Friendliness: The friendliness of the Indonesians have been much touted on this board with some mongers even dreading an invasion of westerners who may spoil them. I do not hold such an opinion. They are friendly yes but only where it matters such as in the hotel, malls or other establishments where they would like to get your money. That being said I think it is easier to date an Indonesian non-pro than a Thai non-pro. Therefore, I would add in terms of where it matters the possibility of gaining a western BF / husband. I get more favorable vibes from girls I encounter here (non-muslims of course) than in Bangkok. However, In terms of overall friendliness I would rate Jakarta and Bangkok as equal.

I am indeed happy to be here and will make further comparisons between the two destinations as time goes by especially in the area of quality and performance of the providers.

First time in Jakarta. I've been reading the forums and haven't been able to find some information.

I prefer taking girls back to my hotel room as I don't like short time / massage rooms.

If I stay at the Sparks, is it possible to order one of their massage girls up to my room?

Also, is it possible to take Travel girls back to my hotel?

Thanks guys!

[QUOTE=TheRedBaron;1762285]
I prefer taking girls back to my hotel room as I don't like short time / massage rooms.
[/QUOTE]Blok M, Bats, CJ for FL to take home.

Taking home from Classic, Travel, Maliboro, Alexis is ridiculously expensive and seldom done.

[QUOTE=Turgid;1762236]
I get more favorable vibes from girls I encounter here (non-muslims of course) than in Bangkok.[/QUOTE]I don't quite understand this statement. Ninety percent of the population is Muslim, and in my experience the Muslim girls are, if anything, the friendliest as compared to Christians, etc. Perhaps you are somehow assuming that the only Muslim females are those dressed in Muslim garb?

[QUOTE=Turgid;1761965] In terms of food I suspect I'm going to have some problems here; although I like to sample the local fare I depend heavily on my staples viz steak / ribs, potatoes, beans, mushrooms etc. I have long jettisoned fast foods like hamburgers and chicken and fries, I avoid these foods and these are ubiquitous in Jakarta but good ribs and steak are nowhere to be seen.
[/QUOTE]Depending on one's budget there are in Jakarta plenty of good places for steak or ribs, particularly in the five-star hotels. See's in the Grand Hyatt is one such place, but there are many others. And although more expensive than the average meal in Jakarta, the prices are not so bad.

[QUOTE=LAGuy5;1762376]Depending on one's budget there are in Jakarta plenty of good places for steak or ribs, particularly in the five-star hotels. See's in the Grand Hyatt is one such place, but there are many others. And although more expensive than the average meal in Jakarta, the prices are not so bad.[/QUOTE]Having eaten at those steak restaurants in Jakarta for many years, I thought they were fine. Then I come back to the US and went to a place like Ruth's Chris and realized that every steak dinner I ever had in Jakarta was crap.

That being said, the steaks at BATS are about as good as you will find in Jakarta. You can have a nice meal there then wait for the girls to come down the stairs.

Park Lane hotel at Stix restaurant used to have a 50% off steak night every Sunday. I'm not sure if they still have it.

[QUOTE=Traveler1234;1762031]My vote is for Bats at the Shangrila. ;)[/QUOTE]T, I am still in the discovery phase as regards Jakarta. There are still plenty of places I want to check out, but I am in no hurry. So far, I have taken two very nice girls out of Bats and CJ's respectively, but the last 2 times I went to CJ's on a Wednesday and a Thursday night CJ's swamped the best night I ever saw in Bats both in sheer numbers and in quality of girls. I still like Bats, but CJ's on a Wednesday night is amazing. I can't think of a better / hotter 5 star hotel FL pickup bar anywhere in Asia. Brix at the Hyatt in Singapore has equal or higher quality at an even more outrageous price, but Brix is a much smaller bar with probably a third of the girls and Spasso at the Hyatt in BKK is a joke compared to CJ's. So I am a big CJ's fan.

The 2nd to last night I was in Jakarta, I met a very attractive part time FL girl at CJ's. I liked her so much that I took her and her best girl friend out to dinner the next night. The girl friend was an amateur who worked in the medical profession. She took pride in ownership, driving us around Jakarta in her new red Honda. I paid for dinner and then drinks later at CJ's where the three of us spent the night dancing. Around 3 am the friend drove us back to my hotel. I filled her tank up with gas. My girl and I spent the rest of the night shagging bareback and cuddling. Around 8 am she had to leave for work. I took her down to the lobby to get a taxi and then I went back upstairs to get some sleep. We have stayed in Line contact and I am looking forward to seeing her again when I return to Jakarta. I am in love. LOL.

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;1762464]T, I am still in the discovery phase as regards Jakarta. I am in love. LOL.[/QUOTE]Hehe. I'm in semi-retirement mode, early to bed, early to rise. I usually stay at Shangrila so Bats is easy in / out for early dinner, early 2-3 hr shag and then sleep. These days, I usually even lazier and just call from my rolodex, eat and screw at the same time in my room.

Enjoy your upcoming trip, especially to LOS. With the recent bombing, things will be quiet and not as crowded.

[QUOTE=LAGuy5;1762375]I don't quite understand this statement. Ninety percent of the population is Muslim, and in my experience the Muslim girls are, if anything, the friendliest as compared to Christians, etc. Perhaps you are somehow assuming that the only Muslim females are those dressed in Muslim garb?[/QUOTE]I've mongered in Istanbul, and other places where the population was a mostly Muslim, Its been my experience they are giving pussy out both the front and back of the Burka, Just need the right amount of social skills to make it happen. The indo girls in my opinion are the warmest in all of SEA. I spent most of my time in Jakarta, but all of Java is ripe for the picking.

[QUOTE=LAGuy5;1762375]I don't quite understand this statement. Ninety percent of the population is Muslim, and in my experience the Muslim girls are, if anything, the friendliest as compared to Christians, etc. Perhaps you are somehow assuming that the only Muslim females are those dressed in Muslim garb?[/QUOTE]Actually, I should have said "except those dressed in muslim garb".

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1762403]Having eaten at those steak restaurants in Jakarta for many years, I thought they were fine. Then I come back to the US and went to a place like Ruth's Chris and realized that every steak dinner I ever had in Jakarta was crap.

That being said, the steaks at BATS are about as good as you will find in Jakarta. You can have a nice meal there then wait for the girls to come down the stairs.

Park Lane hotel at Stix restaurant used to have a 50% off steak night every Sunday. I'm not sure if they still have it.[/QUOTE]I've had great steak in Bangkok. Must check out BATS.

[QUOTE=Turgid;1762600]Actually, I should have said "except those dressed in muslim garb".[/QUOTE]Don't let the jilbab fool you, for sheer uninhibited fun it's hard to beat a hijaber when she lets go.

I know of which I speak.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1762014]
Sounds like a typical Classic experience though. That's a good description of a visit there.[/QUOTE]Isn't it just?

I gave up on Classic a long time ago. I had enjoyed a long and fun-filled afternoon and having a few hours to spare decided to give Classic a last chance.

I got a good-looking girl brought to my table, tall and slim with a nice rack, after a while the conversation was a bit leaden but I kept it going as I couldn't be bothered making the change and because I liked the look of her body.

In the room the usual story, perfunctory BJ (at least it was uncovered) and then straight into missionary, I did that for a while and then indicated she should flip herself over as a nice bit of doggy-style would finish the evening the way I wanted it. She flat out refused, with a sullen, contemptuous even, "gak mau, ah!" and indicating that she wasn't prepared to discuss the matter further. Just to be clear here I wasn't seeking some foul perversion, I wasn't asking her to open her mouth so I could take a dump or something, I was requesting a standard sexual position that used to be the default session in brothels in my youth.

I did what I never did before, I whipped off the johnnie, threw it on the floor, showered and dressed and walked out of the room with neither a fond farewell nor a tip, leaving her alone to enjoy her walk of shame past the cleaning staff.

I wonder is it just bules who get this terrible service because we are regarded as soft touches. I somehow can't imagine a local punter, Chinese or otherwise, putting up wth that after handing over his hard-earned.

Whats a rolodex?

Is that some kind of smartphone :))

[QUOTE=Traveler1234;1762481]Hehe. I'm in semi-retirement mode, early to bed, early to rise. I usually stay at Shangrila so Bats is easy in / out for early dinner, early 2-3 hr shag and then sleep. These days, I usually even lazier and just call from my rolodex, eat and screw at the same time in my room.
[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MasBule;1762708]Whats a rolodex?

Is that some kind of smartphone :))[/QUOTE]It's actually the low tech version of the contact list of your smartphone.

[QUOTE=TheRedBaron;1762285]First time in Jakarta. I've been reading the forums and haven't been able to find some information.

I prefer taking girls back to my hotel room as I don't like short time / massage rooms.

If I stay at the Sparks, is it possible to order one of their massage girls up to my room?

Also, is it possible to take Travel girls back to my hotel?

Thanks guys![/QUOTE]My opinion, if you want girls to take back, for overnight or less, then as everyone else mentions CJs, BATS or BlokM is the go.

I would also mention MO's bar on a Tues night (its good on a Tues. Night, horrendous all other nights) , CJs is the best of the best and rocks on a Wed as mentioned already, I love BATS on a Sunday when everything else is quiet and its rockin, and BlokM always good Thu / Fri / Sat.

BUT as they don't really get happening until 11 pm, IF this was me. I'd try my luck elsewhere first for some variety with the plan of always ending up in those above. I don't know your age, budget or interest. For me I like variety for FL's and its great seeing them in their natural habitat.

I would:

- try bars on jalan jaksa, if you like open air bars with cold beer, t-shirt and shorts kinda places.

- try locals bars if you really feel like a low level challenge, dangut bars on Blora or Wahid Hasyim or Arab bars in Cikini.

- try expat sports bars where local girls are looking for a long or short term date, like Eastern Promise on Friday night at the back band area, Aphrodite, Jaya Pub on Fri nights.

- try higher class bars like Loewy, single girls are at the bar. Use your spidey-sense and wear your best Calvins.

These are all options if you want a bit of variety before hitting CJ's etc.

Again. Disclaimer some of these places are low level, boring at times or maybe not even productive for FLs at times, SO don't use them as your only source.

[QUOTE=MasBule;1762761]My opinion[/QUOTE]Thanks guys. This is gold!

[QUOTE=MasBule;1762708]Whats a rolodex?

Is that some kind of smartphone :))[/QUOTE]I did say in semi-retirement mode, so you can guess my age. My first visit was back in 1982!
;)

Went to Malioboro. Got my bracelet at reception on the ground floor and went straight to where the action is on the second floor. When I entered it actually was not exactly as I expected. I was anticipating raucous action with naked or half naked ladies gyrating on stage and on gent's laps but that was not so. Instead I found the place very civilized with a few girls in bikinis dancing delicately on stage and punters sitting at tables chatting with ladies who almost appeared like guests. Make no bones about it though there were many ladies of the night who were absolutely gorgeous. Persons who have described the girls here as amazing are not exaggerating by any means.

The place is absolutely incredible. I was like a kid in a candy store reminiscent of my first sight of Flower Street in a Chang Ping KTV. This place beats any Bangkok soapie hands down for beautiful women. I was immediately approached by a mamasan who escorted me to a seat and called a waiter who took my drinks order. While seated another mamasan joined us which I found a bit odd but it seems as though there is good comraderie here. They both showed me their girls but I wasn't going to choose until I saw all the girls in the place. What I really wanted to do was walk around to get a better view of the ladies. One mamasan left but the other just sat with me trying to make conversation with her very limited English.

It appeared that she was not going to leave and I had no intention of being rude so I asked her to take me to her girls which she did. She said her girls were from 850,000 rupiah to 2,000,000 rupiah for some of her foreign girls (Viets, Chinese, Colombian and Russian). She introduced me to some who were very enticing indeed and I made a mental note of the number of one of the girls (Indonesian) who was tall with ass ets that I crave. I told the mamasan that when I am ready I would choose that one and I walked around the place with her in tow until she decided to leave me to my own devices. I was not overly impressed by the foreign girls, however, one Russian did look like a model and she appeared to really fancy herself.

I may have looked a bit odd as I walked to each group of girls checking them out, until I spied the absolutely most gorgeous beauty seated among others looking extremely bored. I had to have her. I anticipated a very poor performance just from her demeanor and level of hotness but was not going to let that deter me. Also many punters had passed her way but no one chose her which I found quite odd. I asked a waiter to locate the mamasan for her group and a few seconds later she came to me and I showed her my choice and I pointed at her directly, she asked me if I wanted the girl seated next to her but I maintained my focus. She called the girl who came up absolutely unenthusiastically, they did what was to be done and I was being escorted to the room by her.

I tried to make small talk but her English was very limited; however, I did try my best to make her laugh with very little success. She was not tall, about 5' 3". She undressed to reveal the absolutely most flawless body and her face was exquisite, attractive yet sexy and alluring; I had indeed made a very good physical choice. We washed and then proceeded to the bed.

I asked her to lay down then proceeded to kiss her face, she did allow me to kiss her lips a little but only with her lips tightly sealed. I then proceeded to her breasts and the rest of her body. She absolutely would not allow DATY. So far I have been refused DATY in Indonesia; do they allow it? She capped me, blew me and we then proceeded to coitus. I am getting turned on now just thinking of it. For shame, Turgid, for shame, it was all over in less than ten minutes, actually. I just could not call back the soldiers. All the girls I have previously banged since coming to Thailand in June I have done so for no less than forty five minutes. Its not the first time that this has happened to me, I remember a session with probably the most beautiful girl I have ever had relations with, a Chinese in Geylang in Singapore it was completed in even less time. What a pity this place is only a one pop shop.

One good thing about this encounter is that she readily gave me her phone number when asked. I certainly intend to contact her although I don't know how that would work out as she knows very little English. What I do know is that I will be sessioning with her again in spite of her nonchalent behavior and all the eye candy at Malioboro. Who knows after another session or two she may warm up to me. As you guys realize by now I have a weakness for stunning women. When she asked for a tip I could not refuse considering my plans. BATS and other establishments will have to wait.

[QUOTE=Hilo77;1762613]...then indicated she should flip herself over as a nice bit of doggy-style would finish the evening the way I wanted it. She flat out refused, with a sullen, contemptuous even, "gak mau, ah!" and indicating that she wasn't prepared to discuss the matter further.... [/QUOTE]The girl I went with at Classic actually refused me doggy when I asked her, I insisted and she still refused and there was an impasse for a while but she eventually relented. Is this normal at Classic? If so I would not be returning even with the favorable rate.

[QUOTE=Turgid;1762904]For shame, Turgid, for shame, it was all over in less than ten minutes, actually. I just could not call back the soldiers. All the girls I have previously banged since coming to Thailand in June I have done so for no less than forty five minutes. [/QUOTE]10 minutes is long enough. Once I'm inside them, I'm normally done in less than 2 minutes. If you had lasted 45 minutes, the girl would likely not have given you her phone number.

[QUOTE=Turgid;1762904]Went to Malioboro. Persons who have described the girls here as amazing are not exaggerating by any means.The place is absolutely incredible. I was like a kid in a candy store reminiscent of my first sight of Flower Street in a Chang Ping KTV. This place beats any Bangkok soapie hands down for beautiful women.

I asked her to lay down then proceeded to kiss her face, she did allow me to kiss her lips a little but only with her lips tightly sealed. I then proceeded to her breasts and the rest of her body. She absolutely would not allow DATY. So far I have been refused DATY in Indonesia; do they allow it? She capped me, blew me and we then proceeded to coitus. I am getting turned on now just thinking of it. For shame, Turgid, for shame, it was all over in less than ten minutes, actually. I just could not call back the soldiers. All the girls I have previously banged since coming to Thailand in June I have done so for no less than forty five minutes.

she readily gave me her phone number when asked. I certainly intend to contact her although I don't know how that would work out as she knows very little English. What I do know is that I will be sessioning with her again in spite of her nonchalent behavior and all the eye candy at Malioboro. Who knows after another session or two she may warm up to me. [/QUOTE]Turgid,

Maliboro is great. Its one of my favorite places. I may have missed it, but I don't recall the price for your girl. If she was a hot harem girl, she should have been 1200. The imports get 1500 and the dancers get 1000 (10 drinks) + 1200. I don't think I would have taken a girl with the dour, bored attitude you ascribe to your girl no matter how attractive unless the mamasan guaranteed me of great performance, especially since there are a lot of very attractive girls in Malioboro exhibiting really robust friendly attitudes. Your girl's rather mixed performance bears out those early warning signs, but I can understand how beauty sometimes offsets other rather banal behavior. I have selected only outgoing sexually friendly girls who shoved their nipples into my mouth within seconds of meeting me and I have never had a Malioboro dancer refuse DFK, DATY, or even need my asking for a BBBJ. In fact, I have barebacked a couple of those sexy dancers. So I will continue to go only with the girls that indicate they want to have a good time and skip the ones acting like the session will be a chore.

On your last point; all punters have experienced sensory overload on rare occasions with a really hot girl they liked and consequently have shot off sooner than they would have preferred. Its no big deal unless it happens all the time. The last time it happened to me was with a really hot Chinese girl at Rio Sauna in Macau a couple of years ago. I still remember that girl and the good times (plural) I had with her! She was so hot and she really turned me on. After we engaged in a prolonged 69, she impaled herself on my dick. I palmed her beautiful breasts and came in less than 5 minutes. I just couldn't control myself. LOL. My orgasm got away from me and was unstoppable. It felt good, but I couldn't help feeling inside that I had squandered a great moment and I couldn't wait to go back to Rio the next night and try the girl again.

We were both more familiar and relaxed with each other in the 2nd session. We got into another long time 69, then she mounted me and gave me Asian cowgirl for at least 15 minutes. When she began to tire, I picked her up, gently laid her on her back, and finished her off in mish. The phone rang indicating my time was up while we were still in each others arms. Obviously the 2nd session was more fulfilling than the 1st session and it restored my self image and footing with regards to the girl, but looking back and perhaps because of the 2nd session, I fondly remember losing control that 1st night with that truly hot girl. That loss of control does not happen to me very often. She was an amazing girl.

Am coming Jakarta for fun and girls. Need some help from experts.

1. Which place to stay to have best sex nearby.

2. I don't drink only sex what will be daily budget requirement in $$.

3. Is blok M and hotel classic nearby?

4. What to do during daytime as an there only for 3 days in Jakarta?

5. Best soapy massage near the hotel you suggest with charges?

6. Which places I should not miss for adult fun?

Please help me experts. Will plan accordingly.

[QUOTE=Turgid;1762904]Went to Malioboro. Got my bracelet at reception on the ground floor and went straight to where the action is on the second floor. When I entered it actually was not exactly as I expected. I was anticipating raucous action with naked or half naked ladies gyrating on stage and on gent's laps but that was not so. Instead I found the place very civilized with a few girls in bikinis dancing delicately on stage and punters sitting at tables chatting with ladies who almost appeared like guests. Make no bones about it though there were many ladies of the night who were absolutely gorgeous. Persons who have described the girls here as amazing are not exaggerating by any means.
[/QUOTE]That's because you went to the brothel area. If you go to the club area (2nd entrance just passed the first one, or reachable through the 2nd /3rd floor passing the rooms) you'll find the full naked girls dancing on stage, naked girls giving lap dances and occasionally blowjobs right in the club. (A BJ costs 20 shots, that equals 1 million IDR). They usually bring you upstairs to the curtained boots but I've seen (and had) it done right on the sofa's in the club as well. Don't try it on the standing tables though, that won't work.

[QUOTE=WaZFun;1763059]Am coming Jakarta for fun and girls. Need some help from experts.

1. Which place to stay to have best sex nearby.

2. I don't drink only sex what will be daily budget requirement in $$.

3. Is blok M and hotel classic nearby?

4. What to do during daytime as an there only for 3 days in Jakarta?

5. Best soapy massage near the hotel you suggest with charges?

6. Which places I should not miss for adult fun?

Please help me experts. Will plan accordingly.[/QUOTE]1. Kota area for sure. Grand mecure or novotel is top of the list at $80-100 USD. Varies right down to the likes of the Hollywood hotel at $20 USD, and all in between. WHATS YOUR BUDGET?

2. $30 USD to $300 USD, what are you into? WHATS YOUR BUDGET?

3. Opposite ends of the city and an entirely different experience. 2 hrs++ in peak hour, 1 HR otherwise.

4. Goto a mall, watch a movie (cheap), buy a LT girl breakfast, goto a mall, buy some copy DVD's, get a massage, goto a mall.

5. Limited soapy options IMHO. RTFF on Kartika. But you could always try DELTA spa which now offers a 'wet massage' and it opens from midday I believe. I haven't been yet, but I am sure the forum would like a report.

6. What are you into? AND WHATS YOUR BUDGET, If it was me in order. ;.

A) Goto top floor Alexis bordello and grab a cabana, take a girl in her swimsuit into the openair rooftop pool, then later to a VIP room. If you can afford two girls then even better. $$.

B) Goto CJ's if its a Wed night for a hottie LT FL, $$ (backup options is BATS $$, or TopGun BlokM if your budget is a lower $).

C) Goto Malio club for the best (although not BKK standards) strip show in the city, don't go overboard with the LD's $$.

D) Goto a top nightclub. Depends on your age / looks and ability to pull on your own, this forum rarely talks about where the really beautiful classy women party (Empirica, Blowfish, Immigrant, X2) . OR goto a nightlcub in the large karaoke type places, so if you pull on the dancefloor or hookup with a bunch of locals (very likely if you smile and chat to them. You will often be invited to a table) like Golden Crown or Illegals, they have private rooms as well. Do RTFF on all these places.

Good luck and report back please.

[QUOTE=Turgid;1762905]The girl I went with at Classic actually refused me doggy when I asked her, I insisted and she still refused and there was an impasse for a while but she eventually relented. Is this normal at Classic? If so I would not be returning even with the favorable rate.[/QUOTE]There is a direct relationship between the higher the turnover of customers in a shift to the level of refusal and bad service.

Classic (2nd floor especially) is probably the busiest and largest number of hookers in the city in one-spot.

Some will even refuse to even go with you as a white guy.

I don't like it, but I understand. If you got to fuck 8-guys a night, better you choose the guys who don't make you walk funny afterwards (they believe we all have big schlongs).

Also. My other theory is? And this needs to be verified by others.

If I get bad service or refusal, then I often feel compelled to give a damn good banging to the girl.

If she is friendly and trying hard to please, then I'm ok with not being too athletic and often more at ease with going with the flow and enjoying the girls talents.

BUT. Then it becomes a viscous circle right? If the girl knows she isn't into it and you will give her a good one. So then she refuses doggy etc.

Anyone else agree?

Smoothy often compares Classic to Maribaya. I'm definitely in that camp.

[QUOTE=MasBule;1763110]
Smoothy often compares Classic to Maribaya. I'm definitely in that camp.[/QUOTE]I compare them for contrast only. Classic has young attractive girls who provide terrible service and are crap shags. Maribaya has older less attractive girls who provide awesome service and are great shags. It just depends what you are looking for.

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;1762994]Turgid,

Maliboro is great. Its one of my favorite places. I may have missed it, but I don't recall the price for your girl. If she was a hot harem girl, she should have been 1200. The imports get 1500 and the dancers get 1000 (10 drinks) + 1200. I don't think I would have taken a girl with the dour, bored attitude you ascribe to your girl no matter how attractive unless the mamasan guaranteed me of great performance, especially since there are a lot of very attractive girls in Malioboro exhibiting really robust friendly attitudes. Your girl's rather mixed performance bears out those early warning signs, but I can understand how beauty sometimes offsets other rather banal behavior. I have selected only outgoing sexually friendly girls who shoved their nipples into my mouth within seconds of meeting me and I have never had a Malioboro dancer refuse DFK, DATY, or even need my asking for a BBBJ. In fact, I have barebacked a couple of those sexy dancers. So I will continue to go only with the girls that indicate they want to have a good time and skip the ones acting like the session will be a chore.

On your last point; all punters have experienced sensory overload on rare occasions with a really hot girl they liked and consequently have shot off sooner than they would have preferred. Its no big deal unless it happens all the time. The last time it happened to me was with a really hot Chinese girl at Rio Sauna in Macau a couple of years ago. I still remember that girl and the good times (plural) I had with her! She was so hot and she really turned me on. After we engaged in a prolonged 69, she impaled herself on my dick. I palmed her beautiful breasts and came in less than 5 minutes. I just couldn't control myself. LOL. My orgasm got away from me and was unstoppable. It felt good, but I couldn't help feeling inside that I had squandered a great moment and I couldn't wait to go back to Rio the next night and try the girl again.

We were both more familiar and relaxed with each other in the 2nd session. We got into another long time 69, then she mounted me and gave me Asian cowgirl for at least 15 minutes. When she began to tire, I picked her up, gently laid her on her back, and finished her off in mish. The phone rang indicating my time was up while we were still in each others arms. Obviously the 2nd session was more fulfilling than the 1st session and it restored my self image and footing with regards to the girl, but looking back and perhaps because of the 2nd session, I fondly remember losing control that 1st night with that truly hot girl. That loss of control does not happen to me very often. She was an amazing girl.[/QUOTE]I must admit that I don't often get to get to session with such beautiful women. I hobby mostly in the Caribbean and Latin America and the beauty of Asian women trumps those of that region. The only asset of the women from LA and the Caribbean that beats Asian women is the derriere and my little cutie from Malioboro had a good enough one on her. There was actually a Colombian in there who fetched R2 M and looked quite plain in comparison to my babe. My honey costed R1,050,000 which was a surprise to me as I thought I would have been asked to pay more. I know a lot of punters will disagree with me but at this point in my life I am sometimes willing to sacrifice good service for an optifuck. I know it's messed up but I can't help myself. However, I would like to get some frenzied action before leaving Indonesia, after all I've heard that Indonesian women are the horniest in all of Asia!

In all fairness to Latin Americans I have in fact banged some adorable broads in Brazil, Argentina and Colombia but the numbers in Asia are just over-whelming.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1762946]10 minutes is long enough. Once I'm inside them, I'm normally done in less than 2 minutes. If you had lasted 45 minutes, the girl would likely not have given you her phone number.[/QUOTE]I felt I did not get my monies' worth with approximately 7 1/2 minutes as it turned out. I hope you are wrong about the girl as I intend to have hot, sweaty sex with her before long.

[QUOTE=HihiSter;1763094]That's because you went to the brothel area. If you go to the club area (2nd entrance just passed the first one, or reachable through the 2nd /3rd floor passing the rooms) you'll find the full naked girls dancing on stage, naked girls giving lap dances and occasionally blowjobs right in the club. (A BJ costs 20 shots, that equals 1 million IDR). They usually bring you upstairs to the curtained boots but I've seen (and had) it done right on the sofa's in the club as well. Don't try it on the standing tables though, that won't work.[/QUOTE]This place never ceases to surprise me. I will go in search of the club area in my next visit.

[QUOTE=Turgid;1763218]
In all fairness to Latin Americans I have in fact banged some adorable broads in Brazil, Argentina and Colombia but the numbers in Asia are just over-whelming.[/QUOTE]There are more 9 and 10 out of 10's in South America. But Asia has more quantity of cute girls who are 7 out of 10.

Malio.

I enter either by either the Spa or Club entrance based on the time of day. Before 7 pm I would advise entering by the Spa to get use of the facilities. The Spa puts on a show at 7 pm by the pools of naked girls. It's a bit of a circus act and demeaning for the girls as a guy who thinks he's directing the traffic blows a whistle loudly and shouts orders at them. If he could get away with it I'm sure he would also have a whip to crack. But the show is fun and you get a good wash, hot jacuzzi and full shave before getting dressed for the dance shows upstairs.

After 9 pm enter by the club as the sauna is closing up. For either venue I would advise everyone admires the humorous artwork on the valet parking walls and inside the club.

Entrance fee for both is Rp100 000 so you are getting something for it with the spa, maybe you get a free drink with the club, I can't remember. Despite what earlier posters commented the prices are not fixed. The girl you choose is free to decide how many drinks you have to buy her. If she needs money, you're a favourable tipper or it's still early the cost can be anything in a multiple of 5 although having said all that I tend to chat to them in Betawi rather than English.

All the girls I've been with have given thorough professional BBBJ and have made an effort to continue the BJ service and clean up with their tongues after you've fired off. For this reason alone I avoid kissing them or any sort of fine dining. The best girls are the ones who approach you on their own and ask for a drink. The ones that pester in groups at the dance floor tend to be more inexperienced though often more voluptuous. The girls that need to use mamasans are plain lazy.

If you like Malio I would also recommend a visit to Kings Cross on a separate night.

Also Smoothy thanks for the hotel advice, I'm always on the look out for a room with a large balcony to satisfy the girls who crave cigarettes.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1763267]There are more 9 and 10 out of 10's in South America. But Asia has more quantity of cute girls who are 7 out of 10.[/QUOTE]My experience is that the 9 and 10 out of 10's in South America do not p4 p except perhaps for one or two in Brazil.

Need some guidance for my next month trip.

Am coming for 3 nights purpose is to enjoy with girls.

Am planning to stay near Blok m hotel Melawai? Is this good option.

How much taxi will cost from Melawai to hotel classic??

How much girl cost for long term in top gun or the's average?

Is any good massage parlour near Blok m?

Also am on budget trip so planning to visit top gun. The's place. Hotel classic any maybe Maliboro.

Please suggest me if this looks good plan as I don't drink am planning to just enjoy with girls 3 nights?? Also my per say budget is $100.

[QUOTE=WaZFun;1763496]
How much taxi will cost from Melawai to hotel classic??[/QUOTE]Given that you are at the opposite end of the city and traffic can be horrible, I would estimate 70,000 to 100,000 rupiah one way.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1763591]Given that you are at the opposite end of the city and traffic can be horrible, I would estimate 70,000 to 100,000 rupiah one way.[/QUOTE]Is any bus or train option available to move from Blok M to hotel Classic?

[QUOTE=WaZFun;1763593]Is any bus or train option available to move from Blok M to hotel Classic?[/QUOTE]Yes, price last time I used it was 3000 rph, and its a great option.

From BlokM catch the Transjakarta busway (the big bendy red ones, not the little red and blue ones with people hanging out) to the station in front of the grand mecure.

This also the stop for Malioboro Spa, which is just before the stop on your side of the road.

Walk along the street next to the grand mecure, dodge the rats and streetwalkers for 15 mins and hotel Classic on the left.

Before you get to the hotel, on the right is a busy street called jl Pecenongan, it has Emporium club on it (RTFF that), but most importantly some fantastic Indo and Chinese street andresturant food. Google that to your hearts content.

Busway might stop at midnight from memory, so taxi back at that time shouldn't be more than 50,000.

[QUOTE=MasBule;1763615]....Walk along the street next to the grand mecure, dodge the rats and streetwalkers for 15 mins and hotel Classic on the left....[/QUOTE]If he does not want to walk he can take a minivan for 4,000 are. They are parked near to the 7/11 at that corner.

[QUOTE=Turgid;1763625]If he does not want to walk he can take a minivan for 4,000 are. They are parked near to the 7/11 at that corner.[/QUOTE]Good luck taking one of those if you can't speak Indonesian.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1762946]... If you had lasted 45 minutes, the girl would likely not have given you her phone number.[/QUOTE]I think she would have. She apparently gave me a number that she reserves for punters (or just some) - no answer and no voicemail LOL.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1763626]Good luck taking one of those if you can't speak Indonesian.[/QUOTE]I speak not a lick of Indonesian. I entered without even saying my destination. Looked out for the Classic hotel which I knew would have a large sign easily seen at night. When you reach your destination knock on the roof of the van.

[QUOTE=Turgid;1763630]I speak not a lick of Indonesian. I entered without even saying my destination. Looked out for the Classic hotel which I knew would have a large sign easily seen at night. When you reach your destination knock on the roof of the van.[/QUOTE]I got in one of them years ago before I spoke Bahasa as well as I do now. I just wanted it to go straight down the road about a mile. Instead, as soon as it took off, it took a left and started going the opposite direction of where I wanted. I immediately got out and never took one again. Even now I wouldn't take one because I simply don't know the route they take. I'm sure if I spent the time to watch them for a while, I could figure it out. But I don't mind paying for an actual taxi.

Top Gun is often criticized on this forum and I can understand why. Nevertheless I still enjoy the easy atmosphere, the good music and 50,000 San Miguel. Two contrasting evenings: on Thursday not one girl looked attractive but on Friday there were many good picks. A little 20 yo 38 kg spinner became my GF for the night. She did not disappoint.

While having a late lunch today I saw this hot chick that got me peckish so after eating decided to head over to Malioboro. Entered around 4. 00 pm. There were only a handful of punters and I estimate around 30 girls. Grabbed a drink and sat at a table by myself looking around at what was available. Things looked slow and I was ignored for a while. Then a mama came up to me and asked if I wanted to see her girls to which I agreed. She brought over around 10 girls, none looked really enthusiastic with the exception of one who looked at me and smiled sweetly. To describe her would make me guilty of tautology in respect of Malioboro girls but she was exquisite. About 5'6", slim and extremely cute I immediately chose her, signed the invoice for R1,050,000 and headed to the room arm in arm.

Showered then on to the bed. Everything on the menu was sampled and was absolutely delightful. DFK, BBBJ, DATY, etc. The foreplay was long and enjoyable. Then onto FS, as much as I enjoyed it I would swear that she was having more fun than me so that when I came after about 10 minutes (I could not hold back) she kept me inside of her as if hoping I would not get soft. Alas the inevitable happened and I am certain if I was up to it she would have given me a second go. This one was just as beautiful as my first Malioboro girl but much better in the sack and, therefore, got a bigger tip. She was total GFE throughout. She gave me her number but said she works almost every day from 12.00 noon to 12.00 midnight, and it seems that the chances of meeting her outside are slim. I notice that in addition to the price for drinks and lady they added an extra R100,000; they did that in all my visits, seems to be an admission charge or something which I was not aware of.

What this visit showed me is that like Bangkok when the girl smiles at you in the lineup the service is better. However, even if the girl does not recognize you I find that the service here is still reasonable. I am actually tempted to say that with the demise of Chang Ping this may be the best mongering on the planet currently. These girls are genuinely beautiful and the GFE I got today was second to none. She was an absolute sweetie!

I am thinking about visiting King Cross soon. I like to have a point and shoot camera with me to take pictures of any girls I session with. Do any of you know whether there is security at the entrance that would prevent bringing in a backpack that has a small camera in it? For point of reference, Malioboro has a metal detector and guard at its entrance and although it is sometimes possible to talk oneself in with a backpack and small camera, it can be a PITA. Is King Cross like Malioboro in this respect, or easier?

[QUOTE=LAGuy5;1763868]I am thinking about visiting King Cross soon. I like to have a point and shoot camera with me to take pictures of any girls I session with. Do any of you know whether there is security at the entrance that would prevent bringing in a backpack that has a small camera in it? For point of reference, Malioboro has a metal detector and guard at its entrance and although it is sometimes possible to talk oneself in with a backpack and small camera, it can be a PITA. Is King Cross like Malioboro in this respect, or easier?[/QUOTE]It's easier. I have to physically take my phone out of my pocket to go through the scanner at Malioboro. I don't do that at Kings Cross. Then again, I've never tried to take a backpack in there. I know they do not allow backpacks in Hotel Classic or Hotel Travel. I even had them refuse to let me into MTR last time I went there with a backpack. They wanted me to check it at the door and I refused and went elsewhere. I had a computer in my bag, not a camera. I wasn't about to leave that outside the front door with those guys while I went in. Classic and Travel are safe enough though.

You bring a camera with you into the room every time? I can't recall ever seeing any pictures you posted on this forum.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1763888]It's easier. I have to physically take my phone out of my pocket to go through the scanner at Malioboro. I don't do that at Kings Cross. Then again, I've never tried to take a backpack in there. I know they do not allow backpacks in Hotel Classic or Hotel Travel. I even had them refuse to let me into MTR last time I went there with a backpack. They wanted me to check it at the door and I refused and went elsewhere. I had a computer in my bag, not a camera. I wasn't about to leave that outside the front door with those guys while I went in. Classic and Travel are safe enough though.

You bring a camera with you into the room every time? I can't recall ever seeing any pictures you posted on this forum.[/QUOTE]Thank you for the information. As to your not recalling me posting any pictures on this forum, that is because I haven't posted any pictures. If a girl ever asks me to or gives me explicit permission to post her pictures (as opposed to the often-made request that I not post their pictures) I will consider doing so.

[QUOTE=LAGuy5;1763911]I haven't posted any pictures. If a girl ever asks me to or gives me explicit permission to post her pictures (as opposed to the often-made request that I not post their pictures) I will consider doing so.[/QUOTE]You can always blur their faces and nobody would know who they are. Takes 5 seconds in a photo editing software. Without photos, this site wouldn't be anywhere near as popular as it is.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1764029]You can always blur their faces and nobody would know who they are. Takes 5 seconds in a photo editing software. Without photos, this site wouldn't be anywhere near as popular as it is.[/QUOTE]It seems most people come here for information, not photos; I know I certainly do. If you look at the present thread, you have to go about five pages back, and maybe around 70 or 80 posts to find any photos, and those are of outdoor street scenes, not photos of girls. I did go back ten pages (around 150 posts) in this thread and didn't see a single photo of a girl.

As to blurring their faces, I suspect, without knowing with certainty, most readers here have about the same level of interest in seeing photos like that as I do, which is somewhere less than zero.

[QUOTE=WaZFun;1763593]Is any bus or train option available to move from Blok M to hotel Classic?[/QUOTE]To WaZfun.

Just take the taxi is so cheap if you are a newbie in Jakarta don't know your way why waste time take the bus. So many pick pocket and many local rider.

Fast eddie 48.

[QUOTE=LAGuy5;1763868]I am thinking about visiting King Cross soon. I like to have a point and shoot camera with me to take pictures of any girls I session with. Do any of you know whether there is security at the entrance that would prevent bringing in a backpack that has a small camera in it? For point of reference, Malioboro has a metal detector and guard at its entrance and although it is sometimes possible to talk oneself in with a backpack and small camera, it can be a PITA. Is King Cross like Malioboro in this respect, or easier?[/QUOTE]To LA.

I know they do check all back pack same as Hotel Travel and hotel classic, they will check in all bag in the front and you pick it up on your way out but you can bring in phone with camera but girl don't allow you to take photo.

Fast eddie 48.

[QUOTE=LAGuy5;1764036] I did go back ten pages (around 150 posts) in this thread and didn't see a single photo of a girl. [/QUOTE]Try checking the PHOTO GALLERY thread.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1764077]Try checking the PHOTO GALLERY thread.[/QUOTE]Okay I stand corrected. In the last week there have been about 60 posts in the Jakarta thread and as best as I can tell two photos from Indonesia of one girl in the photo gallery, namely yours. That this is the first time after being a member here for a few years I even bothered to look in the photo gallery is is consistent with what I said earlier that I am here for information, not photos (whether to view or post). I suspect there are many others like me, but who knows?

[QUOTE=FastEddie48;1764045]To LA. but girl don't allow you to take photo.Fast eddie 48.[/QUOTE]That is not so. I no longer take photos of girls but in making small talk I pretend to have my phone with me, which I don't, and ask whether they would allow photos and all the girls I have been with at Malioboro said yes. I did not pursue to enquire whether unclothed.

[QUOTE=FastEddie48;1764045]To LA.

I know they do check all back pack same as Hotel Travel and hotel classic, they will check in all bag in the front and you pick it up on your way out but you can bring in phone with camera but girl don't allow you to take photo.

Fast eddie 48.[/QUOTE]I've talked my backpack into both Classic and Travel on occasion (I need my pocket Indonesian dictionary; I have special condoms; my passport is here; etc.) but it is probably more work to do so than it is worth. I have taken photos of girls at both places (although it sometimes takes some persuasion after the initial knee-jerk "no," which I've gotten from some girls) but frankly given the level of service I typically received at both places those particular photos mean little to me.

Maybe my high success rate in getting photos is because the girls somehow figure out I am not going to post them on the internet. LOL Actually, they often ask (yes, including at Maribaya) and I assure them I'm not going to do so.

[QUOTE=LAGuy5;1764107]I've talked my backpack into both Classic and Travel on occasion (I need my pocket Indonesian dictionary; I have special condoms; my passport is here; etc.) but it is probably more work to do so than it is worth. I have taken photos of girls at both places (although it sometimes takes some persuasion after the initial knee-jerk "no," which I've gotten from some girls) but frankly given the level of service I typically received at both places those particular photos mean little to me.

Maybe my high success rate in getting photos is because the girls somehow figure out I am not going to post them on the internet. LOL Actually, they often ask (yes, including at Maribaya) and I assure them I'm not going to do so.[/QUOTE]The girls in those places in Kota can't even speak English, let alone find this site where it's exclusively in English, so I'm guessing whether you post them here or not has zero to do with it. It's not difficult to have a high rate of success in getting photos. I take photos of almost 100% of the girls I go with. It's extremely rare for a girl in Indonesia or Thailand to refuse to allow me to take photos of them. There was one occasion about 5 years ago when some wanker member of this site showed the girls at Maribaya some photos of them that a guy had posted here. For about 6 months, the girls at Maribaya refused photos due to that. They are ok with photos again now though.

It seems the trend lately for this forum is to only post the same information that has already been posted in the past in this Jakarta section and not post any photos. In the past, this forum was much more entertaining because quite a few of the members posted photos of the girls they have been with and had interesting stories about how they met certain girls around town. Now it's just reports on the brothels in Kota over and over again. Is there really anything interesting to report about a brothel? You go in, you pay your money and you get laid. I'm not saying I don't enjoy visiting them, but there is nothing new to report on them that hasn't already been reported here ad infinitum. However, I never get bored with looking at photos of those cute LBFMs.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1764172]The girls in those places in Kota can't even speak English, let alone find this site where it's exclusively in English, so I'm guessing whether you post them here or not has zero to do with it. There was one occasion about 5 years ago when some wanker member of this site showed the girls at Maribaya some photos of them that a guy had posted here. For about 6 months, the girls at Maribaya refused photos due to that. They are ok with photos again now though.

It seems the trend lately for this forum is to only post the same information that has already been posted in the past in this Jakarta section and not post any photos. In the past, this forum was much more entertaining because quite a few of the members posted photos of the girls they have been with and had interesting stories about how they met certain girls around town. Now it's just reports on the brothels in Kota over and over again. Is there really anything interesting to report about a brothel? You go in, you pay your money and you get laid. I'm not saying I don't enjoy visiting them, but there is nothing new to report on them that hasn't already been reported here ad infinitum. However, I never get bored with looking at photos of those cute LBFMs.[/QUOTE]First of all, the site is what it is, and if you don't find it useful perhaps you should hang out at one of the others more to your tastes. If that should mean the members here would be spared your criticism because they are not providing what you desire, that would be all for the better.

It is presumptuous for you to "guess" my decision not to post photos here has zero to do with the possibility the girls would find out the photos have been posted, their families would find out their photos have been posted, or someone else who could cause trouble would find out the girls' photos have been posted. And in an amazing burst of obtuseness you then follow this "guess" of yours with an example of a board member showing photos that were posted here to girls at Maribaya? Too difficult for you to see the connection?

So Einstein, let's hear your "guess" as to why I don't post photos of girls here? I'm always looking for a good laugh.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1764172]It seems the trend lately for this forum is to only post the same information that has already been posted in the past in this Jakarta section and not post any photos. In the past, this forum was much more entertaining because quite a few of the members posted photos of the girls they have been with and had interesting stories about how they met certain girls around town. Now it's just reports on the brothels in Kota over and over again. Is there really anything interesting to report about a brothel? You go in, you pay your money and you get laid. I'm not saying I don't enjoy visiting them, but there is nothing new to report on them that hasn't already been reported here ad infinitum. [/QUOTE]From your reports I gather that you live here so brothel reports may not be of much value to you. However, for someone like myself who is not as fortunate as you are these reports are useful and indeed is the reason I'm here. Sometimes I need to read different reports of different places so I can use circumstantial evidence to choose where to give priority. Furthermore things change and an establishment that's good today may not be so tomorrow so continuing reports are useful. Just my POV.

[QUOTE=LAGuy5;1764217]First of all, the site is what it is, and if you don't find it useful perhaps you should hang out at one of the others more to your tastes. If that should mean the members here would be spared your criticism because they are not providing what you desire, that would be all for the better.[/QUOTE]I've been on this site since the late 90's. There are many good posters on here. I just don't find you to be one of them.

[QUOTE=LAGuy5;1764217]
It is presumptuous for you to "guess" my decision not to post photos here has zero to do with the possibility the girls would find out the photos have been posted[/QUOTE]I didn't say anything about your decisions. You are the same guy who thinks carrying your passport around town is a smart idea. So the quality of your decisions has already been noted.

What I said was I believe your "high success rate" has zero to do with it. And I say that because I personally have almost a 100% success rate myself and I post the photos on the internet.

Jackson doesn't have a photo feature on this site for nothing. Personally, I think one of the main reasons people join this site is for the photos. In many cases, a photo tells the true story of how good or bad a place is and the quality of the girls. If guys who visit these countries frequently and take a lot of photos aren't posting them, then who will? If the girls do ask me not to post their photo on the internet, I don't. But I bet if you really were asking all those girls if you could post them on the internet, some would be ok with it when you explain to them it will help get them customers. Shela at Maribaya used to beg me to post her photos. Check out the photos HiHi Ster posted recently. He covered their faces. No harm in that. Check the view count on those photos. Obviously there are guys interested.

[QUOTE=Turgid;1764312]continuing reports are useful. Just my POV.[/QUOTE]I liked your Malio report. I found that entertaining.

As far as changes, I don't think Malioboro, Alexis, Kings Cross, Hotel Classic, Hotel Travel, or pretty much any of the big brothels in town have changed at all in the last 5 (or even 10) years other than slight price increases.

The last change in town was when Stadium disco closed down quite a few years ago. That was a sad day. I think most of us had some good times there.

The Blok has changed because it used to be the best place in town for free lancers. Now it seems most prefer the 5 star hotels for that, but the prices have gotten crazy.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1764322]Jackson doesn't have a photo feature on this site for nothing. Personally, I think one of the main reasons people join this site is for the photos. In many cases, a photo tells the true story of how good or bad a place is and the quality of the girls. If guys who visit these countries frequently and take a lot of photos aren't posting them, then who will? [/QUOTE]You took the words right out of my mouth Smoothy. If this site wasn't meant to have photos, there wouldn't be photo gallery. I do disagree that most join for the photos - but they're a nice bonus:D. It also indicates that poster's tastes so you better understand what they find attractive or pretty, which gives you a much better feel for whatever location they were in, and what the possibilities are there. Pity I can't post my current set of photos as they are "normal" women and not P4P. I have, however, posted many times in the past so people will get a better understanding of where I'm coming from. Incidentally the Philippines has a very well run photo thread - no posting without a photo. I do hate this damned auto-correct BTW; I always have to edit my post to get rid of some seriously dumb "corrections":( and it's the only way to get emoticons to stay in your FR:p.

MD II.

I really must revise a statement I made in an earlier post about the friendliness of Indonesian women. After being here so far for eleven days and encountering women from different parts of Jakarta I am now convinced that Indonesians are the friendliest women I have ever met. I am talking about normal everyday women you will encounter such as sales clerks, cashiers, waitresses, hotel staff, employees in business places, etc. The previous friendliest women I have encountered have been in China but Indonesian women have surpassed them. Many women I smile at will not fail to smile back. If only I could speak Indonesian. This brings me to my second point; I read somewhere on ISG more than likely in the Thailand thread that Indonesian women are more conversant in English than Thai women – I can categorically say that this is not so. I find that the vast majority of Indonesians I encounter either do not speak English or speak very little which is not my experience in Thailand.

[QUOTE=Turgid;1765948] If only I could speak Indonesian. [/QUOTE]Simple conversational bahasa terms is fairly easy to learn, certainly much easier than Thai. The return on investment is excellent ;)

Hi Guys.

Long report about my Delta experience last night. I don't normally write posts on every massage I get as these type of places are a dime a dozen in this city and all over asia. But this one was the best I've had in Jakarta so wanted to share. So I was feeling like some variety from my current small stable of Ibu's and decided to treat myself to a Delta visit. I had seen the 'wet massage' sign recently added and it got me somewhat intrigued, and it had been a few years since I was at Delta and usually only there as a relaxing start to a big bucks or boys night out.

Goto the room, girls arrivals, cute little thing with a big smile and maybe 25 yr-28 yrs old, english little little. Anyway massage starts usual style, but this girl is very well trained and does a great job of rubbing not only my back but also rubbing under and having an occasional grope. Sometime here she toddles off to the other room and turns stuff on and off, water flows, matches are lit. Massage resumes, still only face down, bit of ball play, bit of ass rubbing, and the obligatory spiderman type pose when I am lying face down and where my legs are bent in the air on her thighs whilst she rubs all around my cock and ass and balls. I'm in heaven.

So we are now about 1/3 or close to half way though the massage and she instructs me its time to head to the other room. Ok, standup, try not to slip over considering my feet are lubedup and head to the sauna looking room which is now a little misty. Jump on the waterproof matress bed and lie down again, here is where it really starts to feel different to the normal massage. The oil is very viscous and quite hot due to sitting on a little burner, so the girl grabs a cloth and starts dropping it in the oil and pouring it on my back, ass etc. It is feeling really nice now, her hands are going everywhere my legs are bent sideways in 90 degree angles so she gets direct access to my package. She instructs me to lift up a bit from my thighs, so now she is basically giving me a front rub all areas from behind, and its feeling really good.

Time to turn over, get the hot oil the usual places which of course ends up all around my package (feeling a bit like hot wax mmm nice), well by now I'm pretty well worked up. So now the girl sits between my legs and rubs my balls and ahole every which way. Her finger is almost in penetration mode and starting to linger a bit longer around my ahole. I guess the body clues gave it away that I was enjoying this and she asked 'masuk disini' well who am I to say no, so she lifts my legs up wide open on her thighs and goes to work on sticking her full finger where the sun doesn't shine. Her other hand is working the old fella and I got to say I'm in heaven. Well after a few minutes of this, I am ready to blow, she changes hands and I am so worked up that I actually blow at the split second where she doesn't even have a hand one me, and damn you'd think I was 17 again with the distance I achieved. Anyway, she giggles and complements me and I star breathing again.
Following that she tells me she is going to turn on the ceiling water 'panas-dingin, 'panas-dingin' untuk dua minutes. I'm like OK, I roll over and FUCK ME, I get absolutely pulverized by hot and cold water for 2 minutes, But damn it feels good and I'm seriously tingling all over. Then I roll over, she sticks a little washcloth on my now tender privates and we go again with the bloody panas-dingin panas-dingin. Finish the panas-dingin and then she proceeds to shampoo my hair and use soap and washcloth and washes my entire body.

All over, leave the room on a cloud. Damage 692 k for 2 hrs and no tip given or requested, yes you can get 2 girls from classic for that, but sometimes it feels great to be treated like a king for 2 hrs. Sorry guys no photo, I asked but didn't push the point as I didn't want to get off to a bad foot. I know these places exist all over Asia, especially HK and China and the Chinese do this stuff really well. I haven't yet found anywhere in Jakarta offering the same experience, hence the post.
P.S. The only letdown, and a big-one unfortunately is that the girl stays clothed in a little skirt and croptop (dripping wet by the end of it), I knew they stayed clothed from previous visits but I was kinda hoping in the wet massage she might get into a bikini. I might leave that in the suggestion box next time.
PPS. With the wet massage they don't play that stupid extra time game, previous visits its almost guaranteed that the girl will start rubbing your balls when the phone rings for an extra session time extension.

Sorry if its a long post, just wanted to share as I was impressed. :)

[QUOTE=MasBule;1766461]Hi Guys.

Long report about my Delta experience last night. I don't normally write posts on every massage I get as these type of places are a dime a dozen in this city and all over asia. But this one was the best I've had in Jakarta so wanted to share. So I was feeling like some variety from my current small stable of Ibu's and decided to treat myself to a Delta visit. I had seen the 'wet massage' sign recently added and it got me somewhat intrigued, and it had been a few years since I was at Delta and usually only there as a relaxing start to a big bucks or boys night out.

Goto the room, girls arrivals, cute little thing with a big smile and maybe 25 yr-28 yrs old, english little little. Anyway massage starts usual style, but this girl is very well trained and does a great job of rubbing not only my back but also rubbing under and having an occasional grope. Sometime here she toddles off to the other room and turns stuff on and off, water flows, matches are lit. Massage resumes, still only face down, bit of ball play, bit of ass rubbing, and the obligatory spiderman type pose when I am lying face down and where my legs are bent in the air on her thighs whilst she rubs all around my cock and ass and balls. I'm in heaven.

So we are now about 1/3 or close to half way though the massage and she instructs me its time to head to the other room. Ok, standup, try not to slip over considering my feet are lubedup and head to the sauna looking room which is now a little misty. Jump on the waterproof matress bed and lie down again, here is where it really starts to feel different to the normal massage. The oil is very viscous and quite hot due to sitting on a little burner, so the girl grabs a cloth and starts dropping it in the oil and pouring it on my back, ass etc. It is feeling really nice now, her hands are going everywhere my legs are bent sideways in 90 degree angles so she gets direct access to my package. She instructs me to lift up a bit from my thighs, so now she is basically giving me a front rub all areas from behind, and its feeling really good.

Time to turn over, get the hot oil the usual places which of course ends up all around my package (feeling a bit like hot wax mmm nice), well by now I'm pretty well worked up. So now the girl sits between my legs and rubs my balls and ahole every which way. Her finger is almost in penetration mode and starting to linger a bit longer around my ahole. I guess the body clues gave it away that I was enjoying this and she asked 'masuk disini' well who am I to say no, so she lifts my legs up wide open on her thighs and goes to work on sticking her full finger where the sun doesn't shine. Her other hand is working the old fella and I got to say I'm in heaven. Well after a few minutes of this, I am ready to blow, she changes hands and I am so worked up that I actually blow at the split second where she doesn't even have a hand one me, and damn you'd think I was 17 again with the distance I achieved. Anyway, she giggles and complements me and I star breathing again.
Following that she tells me she is going to turn on the ceiling water 'panas-dingin, 'panas-dingin' untuk dua minutes. I'm like OK, I roll over and FUCK ME, I get absolutely pulverized by hot and cold water for 2 minutes, But damn it feels good and I'm seriously tingling all over. Then I roll over, she sticks a little washcloth on my now tender privates and we go again with the bloody panas-dingin panas-dingin. Finish the panas-dingin and then she proceeds to shampoo my hair and use soap and washcloth and washes my entire body.

All over, leave the room on a cloud. Damage 692 k for 2 hrs and no tip given or requested, yes you can get 2 girls from classic for that, but sometimes it feels great to be treated like a king for 2 hrs. Sorry guys no photo, I asked but didn't push the point as I didn't want to get off to a bad foot. I know these places exist all over Asia, especially HK and China and the Chinese do this stuff really well. I haven't yet found anywhere in Jakarta offering the same experience, hence the post.
P.S. The only letdown, and a big-one unfortunately is that the girl stays clothed in a little skirt and croptop (dripping wet by the end of it), I knew they stayed clothed from previous visits but I was kinda hoping in the wet massage she might get into a bikini. I might leave that in the suggestion box next time.
PPS. With the wet massage they don't play that stupid extra time game, previous visits its almost guaranteed that the girl will start rubbing your balls when the phone rings for an extra session time extension.

Sorry if its a long post, just wanted to share as I was impressed. :)[/QUOTE]Great report! I've had over a hundred massages at Delta, but I haven't tried that 'wet massage' yet. I love the "spiderman pose" description of that awkward position they always put you in. I never take photos at delta either. They stay fully clothed at all times, and they normally aren't very hot, so I have never seen the need. It's rare I ever get a bad massage there though. Delta is usually the first place I go after arriving from a long flight. I'll try that wet massage this coming week.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1766471]Great report! I've had over a hundred massages at Delta, but I haven't tried that 'wet massage' yet. I love the "spiderman pose" description of that awkward position they always put you in. I never take photos at delta either. They stay fully clothed at all times, and they normally aren't very hot, so I have never seen the need. It's rare I ever get a bad massage there though. Delta is usually the first place I go after arriving from a long flight. I'll try that wet massage this coming week.[/QUOTE]I've try it in Bali, same experience, just amazing!

P.S: 1,3 millions rp.

[QUOTE=Turgid;1765948]I really must revise a statement I made in an earlier post about the friendliness of Indonesian women. After being here so far for eleven days and encountering women from different parts of Jakarta I am now convinced that Indonesians are the friendliest women I have ever met. I am talking about normal everyday women you will encounter such as sales clerks, cashiers, waitresses, hotel staff, employees in business places, etc. The previous friendliest women I have encountered have been in China but Indonesian women have surpassed them. Many women I smile at will not fail to smile back. If only I could speak Indonesian. This brings me to my second point; I read somewhere on ISG more than likely in the Thailand thread that Indonesian women are more conversant in English than Thai women I can categorically say that this is not so. I find that the vast majority of Indonesians I encounter either do not speak English or speak very little which is not my experience in Thailand.[/QUOTE]Well, not only the women, but also the men are extremeley friendly in Indonesia. .

But regarding the english conversation, it's the other way round from my experiences. Sometimes English teachers are not able to do normal conversation in Thailand and when I got interviewed from English language students from university which happenend in Thailand an in Jakarta it was hard to follow the Thais but easy to follow the Indos.

For the rest it's like above the age of 35 in the average people English is getting less common, but if present the level is ok to good.

In Thailand the same level is normally only present in the p4 p area.

Dee.

[QUOTE=DeeKa;1766575]
But regarding the english conversation, it's the other way round from my experiences. Sometimes English teachers are not able to do normal conversation in Thailand and when I got interviewed from English language students from university which happenend in Thailand an in Jakarta it was hard to follow the Thais but easy to follow the Indos.[/QUOTE]This is true. I have a friend who is married to a Thai girl. Her father teaches English at a respected local Thai University. He even wrote the text book they use! But if you try to speak with him in English, he cannot hold a conversation. It's as if he knows no English at all. Very strange.

Hi All,

I am coming to Jakarta for a visit and will be living in serpong area. I did RTFF but was not able to find good info. Request help on find places like classic or independent.

Or massage plus plus (BJ and more) in the said vicinity.

Thanks in advance.

P.S. : my pm is active in case.

Sanysh.

[QUOTE=Sanysh11;1771330]Hi All,

I am coming to Jakarta for a visit and will be living in serpong area. I did RTFF but was not able to find good info. Request help on find places like classic or independent.

Or massage plus plus (BJ and more) in the said vicinity.

Thanks in advance.

P.S. : my pm is active in case.

Sanysh.[/QUOTE]I presume you will be staying in one of the hotels. The hotel would have a massage service. You could call for an in room massage or speak to the concierge. He will be able to arrange the girls in your room. Tangerang had banned karaoke bars and also night clubs. Am not sure whether it is still existing. Nevertheless, you can visit any of the bars in the hotels and you fill loads of ayams floating in the bars.

Have fun,

Cheers.

What are the hours of Travel / Classic hotel clubs? How early does the action start? Are there any other decent spots in Jakarta for daytime action (before 5 pm)?

[QUOTE=Crocodilexp;1771984]What are the hours of Travel / Classic hotel clubs? How early does the action start? Are there any other decent spots in Jakarta for daytime action (before 5 pm)?[/QUOTE]02:00 pm at Classic Terminal 2 entrance 30000 rp. Girl 350000 plus tip generally 100000. Some gems and generally good to very good service.

[QUOTE=Crocodilexp;1771984]What are the hours of Travel / Classic hotel clubs? How early does the action start? Are there any other decent spots in Jakarta for daytime action (before 5 pm)?[/QUOTE]The action at Travel starts by around 11 am. Classic starts at 4 pm. Almost all the massage parlours in Hayam Wuruk area will start at 11 am. 6th floor, Maribaya starts at 10 am. Though, by the time most of the girls land is by at 12 noon.

Any action around senayan mall?

Seniors please help.

Regards.

Sanysh.

[QUOTE=Sanysh11;1772466]Any action around senayan mall? Seniors please help. Regards.

Sanysh.[/QUOTE]You are 3 or 4 km north of Blok M. You are less than 2 km from Hotel Mulia Senayan--CJ's Bar.

Please find out some basics and find out where you are relative to many places discussed in the forum. And report back!

Hi,

Thanks TimtimGuy.

I know these places by RTFF, but was looking for massage plus plus or establishment like hotel travel.

Any help around that.

Will do the report.

Thanks.

Sanysh.

[QUOTE=TimTimGuy;1772535]You are 3 or 4 km north of Blok M. You are less than 2 km from Hotel Mulia Senayan--CJ's Bar.

Please find out some basics and find out where you are relative to many places discussed in the forum. And report back![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Sanysh11;1772466]Any action around senayan mall?

Seniors please help.

Regards.

Sanysh.[/QUOTE]Hotel Atlet, next to Plaza Senayan has a massage parlor. You could expect plus plus if you go the parlor for a negotiated rate. If you are lucky, you can get FS. But, if you are staying in the room, you could order for massage in the room and FS is guaranteed for a negotiated rate.

Have fun,

Cheers.

[QUOTE=JohnAldrich;1772802]if you are staying in the room, you could order for massage in the room and FS is guaranteed for a negotiated rate.

Have fun,

Cheers.[/QUOTE]I think those chicks want too much money. They were asking me for a million over and above the cost of the massage.

What's up with all the black African prostitutes at CJ's these days? I'm not sure who would prefer those girls over the Indo chicks, but it does seem like they get customers. From what I understand, they started at BATS, but after a few nights, BATS has banned them from the bar permanently. So they hit CJs now. Personally, I think the manager at BATS made the right move there.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1773018]I think those chicks want too much money. They were asking me for a million over and above the cost of the massage.[/QUOTE]Yes you are right Smoothy. That's in most hotels. Since he wanted a walking location from Plaza Senayan, this suggestion was made.

Visited Jakarta for the first time on my way to BKK. Below is a brief summary of my findings.

Taxis: Bunch of touts everywhere. Was charged 350,000 Rupia from the airport to the hotel in North Jakarta. For the return trip, I was charged half of that amount. When returning from clubs late at night, they refuse to put the meter and charge exuberant amounts.

ATM: I could not withdraw cash at most places, including the airport. And when I do, I would get a stack of small bills. The highest note is 100,00 which is equivalent to $ 7. Good news is that the clubs accept full payment with CC for an extra charge.

Costs: Was spending $ 400/ day average on women+food+taxis. Way beyond my budget.

Places Visited:

A. Hotel Alexis: Was charged 2. 6 millions for a Chinese girl that I would rate a 6 max. Everything was covered (! Went to the restaurant afterward and ordered a burger and a soda. Was charged almost 300,000 Rupiah (due to a 30% surcharge). Then went to the lounge bar. I was charged 100,000 Rupia for entrance. There were a total of 4 dancers in the bar on a Sunday evening. This place is overrated and a highway robbery.

'be'. King Crossings: Visited this place after the disappointing Alexis fiasco. I was IGNORED the entire time I was there by all: Waiters, mamasans, and the women. After staying for almost 1. 5 hours and visiting all 3 floors, I decided to leave empty handed.

'see'. Malioboro Hotel: The only place I can recommend. Had good times and I ended visiting the place on 3 consecutive nights. It is expensive, but not as Alexis above.

1. The women in street clothes cost 1 million. Got me a good looking one but bit shy. After going doing on her, she offered BBFS for 0. 5 million tip. I obliged but no cip. I took her again the next day.

2. The ladies in stripper clothing costs more, way more. Invited the first night a hottie to sit down with me. 250,000 Rupia (I. E. 5 shots of grape juice!) for a lap dance in the bar. Then proceeded to a booth for a BJ for 1 million are. Asked for FS. She said virgin. I said I am the Pope. She replied 3 millions. I declined. She ordered 20 shots of grape juice, which she threw all on the floor.

3. Next night, I got me another spinner stripper. Ordered her shots for a lap dance (250,000 R). Offered BJ, I asked for FS. She replied it is the time of the month. When I told her to get off me then, she rescinded. She asked for 2. 6 millions. Insisted on rubber use, I told her to take a hike.

4. Monday afternoon, I visited the spa. Got me a hot one for 1 million Rupia. Offered BBFS + cip for a small tip.

Overall: Mixed feelings: High costs, crooked taxis, ugly city / some nice looking women. I would not return immediatley, but might in few years as I need to camouflage my frequent visits to BKK.

[QUOTE=Tiradentes;1773705]Visited Jakarta for the first time on my way to BKK. Below is a brief summary of my findings.

Taxis: Bunch of touts everywhere. Was charged 350,000 Rupia from the airport to the hotel in North Jakarta. For the return trip, I was charged half of that amount. When returning from clubs late at night, they refuse to put the meter and charge exuberant amounts.

ATM: I could not withdraw cash at most places, including the airport. And when I do, I would get a stack of small bills. The highest note is 100,00 which is equivalent to $ 7. Good news is that the clubs accept full payment with CC for an extra charge.

Costs: Was spending $ 400/ day average on women+food+taxis. Way beyond my budget.

Places Visited:

A. Hotel Alexis: Was charged 2. 6 millions for a Chinese girl that I would rate a 6 max. Everything was covered (! Went to the restaurant afterward and ordered a burger and a soda. Was charged almost 300,000 Rupiah (due to a 30% surcharge). Then went to the lounge bar. I was charged 100,000 Rupia for entrance. There were a total of 4 dancers in the bar on a Sunday evening. This place is overrated and a highway robbery.

'be'. King Crossings: Visited this place after the disappointing Alexis fiasco. I was IGNORED the entire time I was there by all: Waiters, mamasans, and the women. After staying for almost 1. 5 hours and visiting all 3 floors, I decided to leave empty handed.

'see'. Malioboro Hotel: The only place I can recommend. Had good times and I ended visiting the place on 3 consecutive nights. It is expensive, but not as Alexis above.

1. The women in street clothes cost 1 million. Got me a good looking one but bit shy. After going doing on her, she offered BBFS for 0. 5 million tip. I obliged but no cip. I took her again the next day.

2. The ladies in stripper clothing costs more, way more. Invited the first night a hottie to sit down with me. 250,000 Rupia (I. E. 5 shots of grape juice!) for a lap dance in the bar. Then proceeded to a booth for a BJ for 1 million are. Asked for FS. She said virgin. I said I am the Pope. She replied 3 millions. I declined. She ordered 20 shots of grape juice, which she threw all on the floor.

3. Next night, I got me another spinner stripper. Ordered her shots for a lap dance (250,000 R). Offered BJ, I asked for FS. She replied it is the time of the month. When I told her to get off me then, she rescinded. She asked for 2. 6 millions. Insisted on rubber use, I told her to take a hike.

4. Monday afternon, I visited the spa. Got me a hot one for 1 million Rupia. Offered BBFS + cip for a small tip.

Overall: Mixed feelings: High costs, crooked taxis, ugly city / some nice looking women. I would not return immediatley, but might in few years as I need to camouflage my frequent visits to BKK.[/QUOTE]Given your handle, it may be worth mentioning that my extensive mongering in Brazil initially taught me that at least there there is a negligible if any correlation between cost and quality. In my experience, that also tends to be the case in Indonesia, particularly when it comes to service.

With the exception of King Cross, the places you visited were some of the more expensive places in Jakarta, and IMHO not really worth it (particularly Alexis). It would be like restricting one's mongering in Rio to Centaurus, or perhaps Bomboa in Sao Paulo although these analogies are not perfect in that at least in those Brazilian locales you could pretty much expect good service (albeit at a high price).

And it also looks like you didn't do your homework about taxis, unless your airport taxi to North Jakarta was by choice a Silver Bird or luxury White Horse (and even with those what you paid seems a tad too much). The only place you visited where you might have had trouble getting a metered taxi (e.g. , a Blue Bird, cheaper-version, i.e., not luxury, White Horse, or Express) was Alexis; indeed I got a metered taxi back from King Cross without any trouble about a week ago (although had to walk across the street to a taxi queue to get it), and never had any problem getting one from Malioboro. On the other hand, I actually prefer paying a premium to be driven from the airport to my hotel in a Silver Bird Mercedes Benz, and believe the cost (around $25 US to Central Jakarta) is one of the best taxi bargains worldwide.

Just to note for future trips, if you do go to Penjay (e.g., Sari Ayu, or LABar), it [I]is[/I] difficult to get honest taxis from there. The ones who congregate outside that compound tend to be the type that do not turn on their meters. As a result I often try to flag a Blue Bird or Express on the street, but sometimes have had to wait five or ten minutes to get one.

As to the ATMs, I have never had a problem with the ATMs in Jakarta, although usually take out money from ATMs in places like Plaza Indonesia. My ATM card is based on the U.S.

Have to agree with you that Jakarta is an ugly city.

Short story is if you had stuck to Blue Birds, Expresses, and to a lesser extent the white White Horses, you almost certainly wouldn't have had taxi problems. And on your next trip I would advise trying some of the other locales within Jakarta, unless you are the type who needs to frequent the most luxurious and expensive places.

[QUOTE=Tiradentes;1773705]Visited Jakarta for the first time on my way to BKK. Below is a brief summary of my findings.

Taxis: Bunch of touts everywhere. Was charged 350,000 Rupia from the airport to the hotel in North Jakarta. For the return trip, I was charged half of that amount. When returning from clubs late at night, they refuse to put the meter and charge exuberant amounts.

ATM: I could not withdraw cash at most places, including the airport. And when I do, I would get a stack of small bills. The highest note is 100,00 which is equivalent to $ 7. Good news is that the clubs accept full payment with CC for an extra charge.

Costs: Was spending $ 400/ day average on women+food+taxis. Way beyond my budget.

Places Visited:

A. Hotel Alexis: Was charged 2. 6 millions for a Chinese girl that I would rate a 6 max. Everything was covered (! Went to the restaurant afterward and ordered a burger and a soda. Was charged almost 300,000 Rupiah (due to a 30% surcharge). Then went to the lounge bar. I was charged 100,000 Rupia for entrance. There were a total of 4 dancers in the bar on a Sunday evening. This place is overrated and a highway robbery.

'be'. King Crossings: Visited this place after the disappointing Alexis fiasco. I was IGNORED the entire time I was there by all: Waiters, mamasans, and the women. After staying for almost 1. 5 hours and visiting all 3 floors, I decided to leave empty handed.

'see'. Malioboro Hotel: The only place I can recommend. Had good times and I ended visiting the place on 3 consecutive nights. It is expensive, but not as Alexis above.

1. The women in street clothes cost 1 million. Got me a good looking one but bit shy. After going doing on her, she offered BBFS for 0. 5 million tip. I obliged but no cip. I took her again the next day.

2. The ladies in stripper clothing costs more, way more. Invited the first night a hottie to sit down with me. 250,000 Rupia (I. E. 5 shots of grape juice!) for a lap dance in the bar. Then proceeded to a booth for a BJ for 1 million are. Asked for FS. She said virgin. I said I am the Pope. She replied 3 millions. I declined. She ordered 20 shots of grape juice, which she threw all on the floor..[/QUOTE]Taxis -- there's no reason you should be overpaying. When you're at the airport look for the Bluebird or Silverbird stand. Ignore the touts as they will certainly rip you off. If you're hailing a taxi from outside somewhere like Alexis or Malioboro, don't go with the ones parking outside but walk a few steps to the main street and get a normal one. It's all metered.

ATMs -- Look for ATMs that dispense 100 k bills. CIMB Niaga and HSBC machines, for example, give a solid 3 million in 100 k bills.

Cost - $400/ day is insane for Jakarta even if you're doing the 2-week millionaire thing. That translates to 5. 7 million at current exchange rates. It should be less than half of that if you know your way around and planned things in advance.

King Cross -- I was with a fellow monger a week ago and got the exact same treatment. I could speak in Bahasa fluent and have already been here 5 years. Out of the 5 girls I chose none wanted to go with me and were even making harsh remarks in Bahasa thinking I could not understand what they were saying. Had they just refused me in a polite way without making the remarks it would have been very appreciated. As I was leaving the place I refused to pay the cover charge on the basis that nobody would serve me. After being held for an hour and arguing with the satpams and manager, I was finally allowed to go without paying the ridiculous cover charge of 75 k. Overall, I would avoid this place as there seems to be an Anti-Bule sentiment developing.

Malioboro -- if you're after imports, go there or Classic Bunker instead. There's no reason you should be paying 2. 6 million for a PRC in Alexis if they go for a full million lower in Malioboro. And the girls are rotated between the two venues so they are exactly the same.

BBFS - 500 k is insane to tip for BBFS. When you take a freelancer regardless from where (CJs, BATS, "the street" as you mention) you shouldn't even negotiate a tip but tell her you'll cancel the session and won't pay her a thing if she doesn't give BBBFS. I've never had a chic walk out on me this way. The only places you should be tipping (and a max of 100 k) are the brothels as you've already paid upfront and you can't just walk out on her like with a freelancer.

[QUOTE=Tiradentes;1773705]Costs: Was spending $ 400/ day average on women+food+taxis. Way beyond my budget.Overall: Mixed feelings: High costs, crooked taxis, ugly city / some nice looking women. [/QUOTE]I would be visiting Jakarta and Bali in November and will be reading the posts more thoroughly from a couple of weeks. I have been to Surabaya before and really like the Indo women. Veteran mongers, I would not be coming to Jakarta for sight seeing but just mongering. USD $400.00 / day total seems a bit high for Indonesia. I am not a big drinker neither am a spring chicken that I can fuck 5 women a day. I could do a few hours with a good woman a day for or two some days. Any suggestions?

[QUOTE=Tiradentes;1773705]V
Costs: Was spending $ 400/ day average on women+food+taxis.

Malioboro Hotel: The only place I can recommend. Had good times and I ended visiting the place on 3 consecutive nights. It is expensive, but not as Alexis above.
[/QUOTE]I do agree with you that for a first visit to Jakarta, Malioboro is perhaps the best place to visit. I have to admit that I do not go to expensive places in Jakarta like Alexis or Malioboro very often. I spend $300 to $500 every time I go to Alexis, so I try to avoid it. I probably spend about $200 each time I go to Malioboro. That may not sound too bad, but that is only for a couple of hours of my time and I will certainly shag more than that one girl during the day and night. Even going to the more down market places, I still spend an average of between $250 and $300 a day on women+food and drink+taxis in Jakarta. I spend about the same in Bangkok on food, drink and women (taxi cost is of course higher in Jakarta than in Bangkok).

Yes, getting a taxi with a fair meter price late at night in Jakarta can be a hassle relative to the ease of transportation you find in Bangkok. The main drawback of Jakarta is the fact that moving around town to get to the different entertainment venues is normally a pain. In Bangkok, it's very easy.

[QUOTE=Tiradentes;1773705]ATM: I could not withdraw cash at most places, including the airport. And when I do, I would get a stack of small bills. The highest note is 100,00 which is equivalent to $ 7. Good news is that the clubs accept full payment with CC for an extra charge.[/QUOTE]The 100 K note is the biggest one they have, Bro. It's worth about $8 USD, and about $10 AUD.

So we have no choice but to walk around with what looks and feels like a big wad of cash.

Or use your credit card, which is always a risky prospect in Asia.

The good news is that for a couple of those 100 K bills you can get what would cost you $200 at home.

[QUOTE=LAGuy5;1773746]Given your handle, it may be worth mentioning that my extensive mongering in Brazil initially taught me that at least there there is a negligible if any correlation between cost and quality. In my experience, that also tends to be the case in Indonesia, particularly when it comes to service.

.[/QUOTE]Indeed, Rio and specially Terma Centaurus were my favorite places in the whole world only 4 years ago. Then everything changed. My love for Rio turned into despise. I got infected by the Asian bug, specifically the BBFS bug. I doubt I will ever step a foot in Rio again even if the US dollar hits 8 Reais.

I did have a cheat sheet with the name of at least 10 places to visit, 2 for every day while I am there in Jakarta. I went to Alexis because it was rated as the best. Obviously, that wasn't the case. The place is luxurious, but I am not there to eff the place. When I came back to my hotel and read more about it, I found that the Alexis management owns Emporium and other facilities on my list. So I cross all these out my notes.

Regarding cheaper venues such as King Cross and others, and as Egy Monger corroborated my statement, if you are not local, then there is a big chance that you will be refused service. So, again, cheap venues such as Travel / Classic hotels were deemed not worth my time.

So, Maliobore, it was. It also helped since I was staying at the Grand Mercure Harmoni, which is located 5 minutes walk from the place. Good services, good looking women, fair prices for FS made me go back 3 times. I did not care too much about the management and the waiters though, reminded me of the assholes at Rio's Terma Centaurus.

I did cut short my trip by one day and decided to fly to BKK instead.

Jakarta places a distant second to BKK in my book. But it surely beat the chaotic crazy city that is Manila.

[QUOTE=Tiradentes;1774205]Indeed, Rio and specially Terma Centaurus were my favorite places in the whole world only 4 years ago. Then everything changed. My love for Rio turned into despise. I got infected by the Asian bug, specifically the BBFS bug. I doubt I will ever step a foot in Rio again even if the US dollar hits 8 Reais.

I did have a cheat sheet with the name of at least 10 places to visit, 2 for every day while I am there in Jakarta. I went to Alexis because it was rated as the best. Obviously, that wasn't the case. The place is luxurious, but I am not there to eff the place. When I came back to my hotel and read more about it, I found that the Alexis management owns Emporium and other facilities on my list. So I cross all these out my notes.

Regarding cheaper venues such as King Cross and others, and as Egy Monger corroborated my statement, if you are not local, then there is a big chance that you will be refused service. So, again, cheap venues such as Travel / Classic hotels were deemed not worth my time.

So, Maliobore, it was. It also helped since I was staying at the Grand Mercure Harmoni, which is located 5 minutes walk from the place. Good services, good looking women, fair prices for FS made me go back 3 times. I did not care too much about the management and the waiters though, reminded me of the assholes at Rio's Terma Centaurus.

I did cut short my trip by one day and decided to fly to BKK instead.

Jakarta places a distant second to BKK in my book. But it surely beat the chaotic crazy city that is Manila.[/QUOTE]I have spent a few hundred days in Jakarta over the course of the last five years, cannot hold a conversation in Indonesian (although know some very basic vocabulary), and am white. i. e. , am clearly not a local on first appearances or otherwise. Although there have been the very occasional cases where a girl may have made a face indicating she did not want to go with me, I don't agree at all about the girls at the lower to mid-end places consistently refusing service to foreigners. That just isn't the case for me, nor for any of my "bule" friends, who range in attractiveness from attractive to not so attractive (mentioned so as to cover the range of possibilities for refusing a session).

I went with a bule friend to King Cross a little over a week ago, and we did not have any problem there other than the fact there are other places with better looking girls for less money (that was my first, and probably only visit to King Cross). My impression (again keeping in mind I have only been there once) is the girls will not approach you but rather you have to tell a mama- or papa-san you are interested in a particular girl. Once or twice I was asked by a papa-san whether I was interested in picking girl, but that was about it. There is a fine balance though between a locale where the mama-sans seem to always want to bother you (e.g. , at Classic) and a locale where they may err in the other direction. But I did not find King Cross inhospitable. I did, however, end up doing my session on the massage floor (keeping in mind the massage included full service).

Having said this, again I have only been to King Cross once, and don't have enough experience there as to whether there is an anti-bule bias. But even if there is, that should not be generalized to other locales in Jakarta, including the cheaper ones. In this regard, I note Egymonger's comments were only about King Cross, not other locales.

Moving to Malioboro, it is not a bad place, and I like the facilities there, but to my tastes there are places that are both cheaper and at which I get better service. So, Malioboro for me is a place I might go with a group of friends to socialize and hang out (and possibly take a session) but if I'm out alone I go elsewhere.

And I should mention that when I was last in Jakarta, a friend who has extensive experience mongering throughout the world visited for a few days (he now lives in Asia although is an American). I just heard from him that he enjoyed the mongering so much he returned for another few days. During his earlier trip, the most expensive place we visited was King Cross, and neither of us experienced any problems including any refusals at any of the places we visited..

[QUOTE=Tiradentes;1774205]
Regarding cheaper venues such as King Cross and others, and as Egy Monger corroborated my statement, if you are not local, then there is a big chance that you will be refused service. [/QUOTE]I wouldn't say there is a "big chance" that you will be refused service. But it is possible some girls will refuse you. You are definitely safer at places like Malioboro and Alexis when it comes to the chance of not being refused service - and the service at those places is quite good. I've never been refused at Hotel Classic either, but I consider the service there to be horrible at least 80 pct of the time.

King Cross is one of the places not too many foreigners visit. I haven't been refused there yet, but I can verify Egy's story because I was with Egy the other night when the chick refused to go with a Bule (white guy). The chick I picked at King Cross that night loved Bules and told me her nickname was Ana Bule because she normally goes with any bule that comes into the place. She told me it wasn't often that bules did come there, but she was happy when they did. It just happened that the one Egy picked didn't want to go with a Bule. She was very tall, hot, and obviously had a high opinion of herself. I thought she looked more like an admin secretary in one of the offices I work in around town than a hooker. We had just seen her coming down the elevator from a session with a local indo guy, so she obviously wasn't shy to go with Indos. Unfortunately, once the other girls saw that girl refusing, they all started refusing to save face. Both Egy and I have been there in the past and we have taken girls there with no issues. When the girls refuse to go with a Bule, they normally refuse either because they are scared you have a big dick or that they can't communicate with you. They are normally girls fresh out of the kampung (village) who have never been with a bule before. Since Egy and I both speak bahasa, it was most likely due to the fear of him having "kontol besar" (big dick). But that girl was well maintained, was obviously not fresh out of the kampung, and was acting quite strange, so who knows? Maybe she had a bule boyfriend in the past who broke her heart.

It's not just King Cross, I have had girls refuse to go with me at various places around town where bules are not frequent customers. It used to happen frequently in the North Jakarta area back in the late 90's and early 2000's, but not so much anymore since many more bules visit those places now than they did back then. The first time it happened to me was in a place that I go now very frequently. But back then, every girl in the place refused to go with me because they thought I would have a big dick. It actually hurt my feelings at first. However, after a couple of visits there with my indo buddies from the office, one girl agreed to go upstairs with me (because the indo guys I was with talked her into trying a big dick). I couldn't speak bahasa back then, so I didn't know those guys had convinced her I had a big dick (those guys had no idea because they definitely had never seen it). I walked upstairs with the girl, and as soon as she locked the door, she said "show me your dick". She even said it in English! I took down my pants and was greeted by a look of disappointment on her face when she discovered that I do not in fact have a big dick. But we still went through with the "massage" and it was quite nice. She was a nice girl. Considering how girls like to gossip, the word got around immediately, and after that all of the girls there were happy to go with me. I likely paved the way for other bules to have success there as well, so I consider myself a pioneer of sorts. Haha.

It wasn't at King Cross, but I had a girl refuse to go with me just the other day when I stopped off for a shag at a place I don't go very often on my way to the airport. The mamasan dragged her over and she fought the mamasan saying "Bule? Gak mau!" Which translates to "white guy? I don't want!" The mamasan was trying to force her to go with me and I told her to forget it, I would choose a different girl. I ended up with a far better girl than that one anyway. That was when I found the chick who looked like Jupe that I posted in the photo gallery. So it worked out well. Jupe is without a doubt my favorite Indoensian artist. To find her double was a great coup. What a send off!

Living in Jakarta I completely agree with Egy and Smoothy. You grossly overtipped, you let yourself get ripped off by taxi's, you made totally wrong choices of places to visit and you got ripped off with a 250 k lap dance. I'd definitely recommend Tiradentes to do some more reading before visiting any new location; your trip was not successful due to your own lack of research. You crossed all companies that belong to the Alexis group from your list just because you had a (due to your own fault) bad experience at Alexis? That's like saying you had 1 lousy flight with Singapore Airlines now you'll never fly Silk Air.

Jakarta is a goldmine and is still relatively unspoiled especially if you are able to speak Indonesian, although you shouldn't have too many problems if you don't.

Come to think of it, no need to do any reading or research, stay in BKK, more for us.

Suppose you were in Jakarta during the period around Eid al adha. It's a major religious observance. Should one expect major places (Alexis, Malioboro, etc) to be running as usual all week, or will everything be closed? If closed, would it be just for the major observance days?

Thanks all.

[QUOTE=Audio24;1774462]Suppose you were in Jakarta during the period around Eid al adha. It's a major religious observance. Should one expect major places (Alexis, Malioboro, etc) to be running as usual all week, or will everything be closed? If closed, would it be just for the major observance days?

Thanks all.[/QUOTE]I have written this for the last couple of years coming up to Idul Adha because I got caught out a few times in my earlier days here. Idul Adha is a bad time for our hobby (obviously if you have someone lined up it's fine) all the bars are shut on the day and more importantly the night before (ie Wednesday evening) and you don't want to find yourself out on the streets on Wednesday after about 7 pm as the taxis disappear like snow in August.

It's a tricky couple of days because it is never as heavily advertised as Idul Fitri, however by Friday normal service should be resumed.

[QUOTE=HihiSter;1774368] Your trip was not successful due to your own lack of research. [/QUOTE]I feel for him as I felt the same way in my first trip to Jakarta (well from about landing at the airport in the morning until 10 pm that night when I met someone and everything changed).

I thought Jakarta was the most God-awful dump on planet Earth, wandering around Blok M on a wet Saturday afternoon I couldn't imagine coming back after dark never mind having sex with any woman who would possibly be found there. In my defence there was no ISG (well it was called WSG back then but I hadn't discovered it), the poster made very bad choices and failed to take advantage of the vast wealth of useful information that has been provided here free of charge over a decade or more to help him negotiate the many pitfalls that he fell face first into.

Jakarta is a crap city by any reasonable standards, in one respect however it is among the most fantastic cities in the world and in that respect there is a goldmine of helpful knowledge here and all you have to do is carefully read it to enjoy what this town has to offer.

If you fail to do so, well you must take your lumps. Bangkok would appear to be the safer, wiser option.

[QUOTE=Hilo77;1774564]In my defence there was no ISG (well it was called WSG back then but I hadn't discovered it)[/QUOTE]I had discovered the forum back then, but back then the Indonesia section was not helpful at all and had no information. The internet speed back then was crap as it was all very slow dial up and lost connection every few minutes. It's drastically different now. I didn't discover Blok M and Tanamur until I was in town 2 months! I thought Jakarta was horrible the first couple of months I was in town. When I first arrived, I asked the other expats at the office (all at least 10 years older than me) where they go at night and they told me they didn't go out because they were all married with families. When I did finally discover Tanamur and Blok M, I found those same guys there almost every night. They said they didn't tell me because they didn't want the word to get around to their wives, but now that I am going out to the same places, I was welcome to join them. I told them to go screw themselves. I will say though that Jakarta was a better place for mongering back then than it is now. And I think the fact that things were more hidden was the reason for it.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1774274]Unfortunately, once the other girls saw that girl refusing, they all started refusing to save face.[/QUOTE]For the girls I believe it was more a case of "I'll refuse the Bule to show the rest of my peers that I'm not desperate and I have the power to say no" than saving face. It makes the desperate ones who don't get clients jealous, which is what the more popular and attractive ones aim to get out of this.

The whole setup of King's Cross does not help either. With the way the seating arrangement is made It feels like you're in the middle of a theatre, which makes gossip easy to go around.

I don't think it's fear of having a huge dick. After all, I did offer to show each and every one of them the size of my (relatively average) weener.

Even the mama sans always came up with bullshit excuses why they wouldn't go with me. They kept saying the girls were waiting for other clients who had already pre-booked them, but then when other local mongers arrived the same girls were paraded in front of them.

[QUOTE=EgyMonger;1774619]For the girls I believe it was more a case of "I'll refuse the Bule to show the rest of my peers that I'm not desperate and I have the power to say no" than saving face. It makes the desperate ones who don't get clients jealous, which is what the more popular and attractive ones aim to get out of this.

The whole setup of King's Cross does not help either. With the way the seating arrangement is made It feels like you're in the middle of a theatre, which makes gossip easy to go around.

I don't think it's fear of having a huge dick. After all, I did offer to show each and every one of them the size of my (relatively average) weener.

Even the mama sans always came up with bullshit excuses why they wouldn't go with me. They kept saying the girls were waiting for other clients who had already pre-booked them, but then when other local mongers arrived the same girls were paraded in front of them.[/QUOTE]Ya, for sure you were only picking the top popular hotties there, not the girls who don't get much action. Maybe they were showing off their power, just like Maya refusing to go with me these days. Unfortunately, there were not all that many hot chicks there that night. I liked later when we saw them all take their extremely high heels off so they could go home, they became drastically less attractive. That was an eye opener.

That setup at KC is basically putting the guys in the fish bowl rather than the girls, isn't it? I'd never thought of that, but it's accurate.

When the mamasan said the girl was "already booked", but then had her line up for those other guys to pick, at least we had the satisfaction of those guys refusing her. Her decision ended up costing her money.

[QUOTE=Hilo77;1774557]I have written this for the last couple of years coming up to Idul Adha because I got caught out a few times in my earlier days here. Idul Adha is a bad time for our hobby (obviously if you have someone lined up it's fine) all the bars are shut on the day and more importantly the night before (ie Wednesday evening) and you don't want to find yourself out on the streets on Wednesday after about 7 pm as the taxis disappear like snow in August.

It's a tricky couple of days because it is never as heavily advertised as Idul Fitri, however by Friday normal service should be resumed.[/QUOTE]Thanks, are the in-room massages still going or is everything shut?

[QUOTE=TheRedBaron;1775547]Thanks, are the in-room massages still going or is everything shut?[/QUOTE]Everything is shut. One year, we found out that Hotel Aryaduta still had massages going on, but I don't think they still do (they are a waste of time anyway). If you are looking for any action, you need to arrange for a free lance chick to come to your room. You could not possibly pick a worse time to be in Jakarta.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1775571]Everything is shut. One year, we found out that Hotel Aryaduta still had massages going on, but I don't think they still do (they are a waste of time anyway). If you are looking for any action, you need to arrange for a free lance chick to come to your room. You could not possibly pick a worse time to be in Jakarta.[/QUOTE]Smoothy-- oh no-- "everything" is shut? I arrive in Jakarta for my first time on Wednesday. Was planning on hitting Ladies night at CJs on Wednesday and then Malioboro on Thursday. Am I totally screwed?

[QUOTE=PStevens999;1775614]Smoothy-- oh no-- "everything" is shut? I arrive in Jakarta for my first time on Wednesday. Was planning on hitting Ladies night at CJs on Wednesday and then Malioboro on Thursday. Am I totally screwed?[/QUOTE]If you get really stuck go to Central Park which is a Chinese enclave more Hong Kong than Jakarta, the bars there never shut through any of the the recent idul fitri holidays. Across the highway from Central Park is a massage hotel I doubt it will close either.

[QUOTE=PStevens999;1775614]Smoothy-- oh no-- "everything" is shut? I arrive in Jakarta for my first time on Wednesday. Was planning on hitting Ladies night at CJs on Wednesday and then Malioboro on Thursday. Am I totally screwed?[/QUOTE]Most likely you are totally screwed. I'm not in town right now or I'd confirm, but most likely they are closed Wednesday and Thursday (as Hilo77 posted earlier). Really bad timing. You can still contact girls via dating sites or phone dating apps and try to get them to come to your hotel, but all night spots will be closed.

I've never tried Central Park (nor even heard of it for mongering), but if Pete is suggesting it, that could be a possible option. Although I think you would need some more details to find exactly where to go there.

[QUOTE=EgyMonger;1774619] After all, I did offer to show each and every one of them the size of my (relatively average) weener.

Even the mama sans always came up with bullshit excuses why they wouldn't go with me. [/QUOTE]Maybe your offer to whip out your dick had something to do with none of them wanting to go with you. Just kidding.

What time does KC open and when does it fill up with cewek?

Web search seems to indicate not open until 7 pm?

Thanks for any info.

D's Place is advertising for waitresses and dancers.

Might produce some interesting new girls.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1775571]Everything is shut. One year, we found out that Hotel Aryaduta still had massages going on, but I don't think they still do (they are a waste of time anyway). If you are looking for any action, you need to arrange for a free lance chick to come to your room. You could not possibly pick a worse time to be in Jakarta.[/QUOTE]Thanks man. From googling it looks like a fairly short holiday. How feasible is it to load up on Blok M girls phone numbers on Tuesday night? Or do they go ho'me for the holiday?

[QUOTE=TheRedBaron;1776014]Thanks man. From googling it looks like a fairly short holiday. How feasible is it to load up on Blok M girls phone numbers on Tuesday night? Or do they go ho'me for the holiday?[/QUOTE]Tuesday night is pretty dead on the Blok, but you could get one or two numbers. You might want to try Maribaya at hotel Melawai, those girls may be interested in meeting up. BATS and CJs girls are even more likely to be available.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1774607]... I didn't discover Blok M and Tanamur until I was in town 2 months!.[/QUOTE]I've heard about Tanamur for the first time 2 days ago, from a friend who went there for his first evening in Jakarta, unfortunately with his girlfriend. They ended up high in bed with another girl. Next morning his GF wake up, wtf is this city! Packed their bags and ran to Bali LOL. He came back there only few months later, after they separate!

And I believe it's first time I read about Tanamur in this forum. May I ask how it was, and why it's not anymore.

Cheers.

Hi All,

Long pending but fresh FR.

After getting few tips in forum inputs and making my mind this is how it worked out.

I was on the other end of town near famous mall in serviced apartment, this area is near BLOK M so one choice was to go famous spots and bring girl home. I did this type of things in Manila and combodia so I made up my mind to go establishments like travel or classic which are new to me. Now the question was travel or classic or alexis. The later was taken out due money wise spend report so off I go to classic. Booked blue bird and went to classic (45 K). Due RTFF went to second floor directly. Behaved like I belong to place.

I must say this place is very good, clean and hassle free. After the tag entry went to the floor as it was Saturday it was house full. Lot of beautiful chicks were dancing semi naked (8 or 9 out 10 is my marking there). As it was rush hour mamamsans were not that pushy. As RTFF instruction got beer and and was seeing the girls dancing. After I was settled few mamasans came to me, few girls were not showing interest so I said I want to wait. So while doing the parade one girl came to me and smiled. Bingo. Mason said 350 K but said you can take 500 for two. I said fuck it I want two and my dream came true.

First girl. MILF (6 or 7 out 10).

Second Gilr. PYT (8 out of 10).

Of we went to basement then few cigs and then washing routine. Then CBJ (avoided BBJ as one girl was having sour throat), within minutes first MILF started reverse cow girl (looks like its classic trend LOL), while other girl was playing with my nipples. I did DFK with PYT but she was not liking it so didn't force. Then switched two times and came both the times in their hand.

These girls looks hygienic but I didn't take any chance of BBJ or bare back. They have durex but I also took mine to be sure and changed every time I switched. I also used lot of antibacterial lotions (sanitizers) in between as don't want to take any thing or want to give anything.

Any ways it was decent experience. Quality of girls is good and is must try for first timers.

Regards.

[QUOTE=Sanysh11;1776804]
First girl. MILF (6 or 7 out 10).[/QUOTE]A MILF at Classic? You must have taken one of the mamasans. I don't think any of the hookers there are over 25 years old.

Yes bro. MILF is older chick than usual.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1776904]A MILF at Classic? You must have taken one of the mamasans. I don't think any of the hookers there are over 25 years old.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Sanysh11;1776804]Hi All,

Long pending but fresh FR.

After getting few tips in forum inputs and making my mind this is how it worked out.

I was on the other end of town near famous mall in serviced apartment, this area is near BLOK M so one choice was to go famous spots and bring girl home. I did this type of things in Manila and combodia so I made up my mind to go establishments like travel or classic which are new to me. Now the question was travel or classic or alexis. The later was taken out due money wise spend report so off I go to classic. Booked blue bird and went to classic (45 K). Due RTFF went to second floor directly. Behaved like I belong to place.

I must say this place is very good, clean and hassle free. After the tag entry went to the floor as it was Saturday it was house full. Lot of beautiful chicks were dancing semi naked (8 or 9 out 10 is my marking there). As it was rush hour mamamsans were not that pushy. As RTFF instruction got beer and and was seeing the girls dancing. After I was settled few mamasans came to me, few girls were not showing interest so I said I want to wait. So while doing the parade one girl came to me and smiled. Bingo. Mason said 350 K but said you can take 500 for two. I said fuck it I want two and my dream came true.

First girl. MILF (6 or 7 out 10).

Second Gilr. PYT (8 out of 10).

Of we went to basement then few cigs and then washing routine. Then CBJ (avoided BBJ as one girl was having sour throat), within minutes first MILF started reverse cow girl (looks like its classic trend LOL), while other girl was playing with my nipples. I did DFK with PYT but she was not liking it so didn't force. Then switched two times and came both the times in their hand.

These girls looks hygienic but I didn't take any chance of BBJ or bare back. They have durex but I also took mine to be sure and changed every time I switched. I also used lot of antibacterial lotions (sanitizers) in between as don't want to take any thing or want to give anything.

Any ways it was decent experience. Quality of girls is good and is must try for first timers.

Regards.[/QUOTE]I am currently in Jakarta and I visited Classic a few nights ago and had a good time. In addition, I agree with your overall comments. I have been to other MPs in North Jakarta, but it is not worth since they cost a lot more for Indo girls, starting at 800,000 at some MP here in Jakarta. For overall value, Classic wins. I have been to Travel MP but I like Classic better. Both have the same low price of 350,000 for one girl and 520,000 for two girls. Thats $25 to $37!! Two young chicks for $37. Some guys on this website do not like Classic. As for me, I always have a good time there.

Just wondering, did you tip both the girls? If yes, how much? I had two girls at Travel but service was bad and I did not tip. I never had two girls at Classic, only one at a time.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1774812]Ya, for sure you were only picking the top popular hotties there, not the girls who don't get much action. Maybe they were showing off their power, just like Maya refusing to go with me these days. Unfortunately, there were not all that many hot chicks there that night. I liked later when we saw them all take their extremely high heels off so they could go home, they became drastically less attractive. That was an eye opener.

That setup at KC is basically putting the guys in the fish bowl rather than the girls, isn't it? I'd never thought of that, but it's accurate.

When the mamasan said the girl was "already booked", but then had her line up for those other guys to pick, at least we had the satisfaction of those guys refusing her. Her decision ended up costing her money.[/QUOTE]I have been to KC and had headaches there, and I am not White. Bottom line, KC perfers Indo men. Not all non Indo guys will have a bad time there. But, most will. That is why I stop going to KC long time ago.

Hi Bro,

As BBJ was not there and DFK was almost non existent I gave 50 K each. One girl was speaking Ok english hence the tip.

[QUOTE=Undercoverh;1777195]I am currently in Jakarta and I visited Classic a few nights ago and had a good time. In addition, I agree with your overall comments. I have been to other MPs in North Jakarta, but it is not worth since they cost a lot more for Indo girls, starting at 800,000 at some MP here in Jakarta. For overall value, Classic wins. I have been to Travel MP but I like Classic better. Both have the same low price of 350,000 for one girl and 520,000 for two girls. Thats $25 to $37!! Two young chicks for $37. Some guys on this website do not like Classic. As for me, I always have a good time there.

Just wondering, did you tip both the girls? If yes, how much? I had two girls at Travel but service was bad and I did not tip. I never had two girls at Classic, only one at a time.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Turgid;1765948]I really must revise a statement I made in an earlier post about the friendliness of Indonesian women. After being here so far for eleven days and encountering women from different parts of Jakarta I am now convinced that Indonesians are the friendliest women I have ever met. I am talking about normal everyday women you will encounter such as sales clerks, cashiers, waitresses, hotel staff, employees in business places, etc. The previous friendliest women I have encountered have been in China but Indonesian women have surpassed them. Many women I smile at will not fail to smile back. If only I could speak Indonesian. This brings me to my second point; I read somewhere on ISG more than likely in the Thailand thread that Indonesian women are more conversant in English than Thai women I can categorically say that this is not so. I find that the vast majority of Indonesians I encounter either do not speak English or speak very little which is not my experience in Thailand.[/QUOTE]Your statement hits upon a fact that is often overlooked on this website. Note, I am talking about regular Indo girls, not hookers. Most Indo girls are very nice and friendly. In addition, many like to date white guys. However, they are shy and a regular Indo will not approach you. Bottom line, if you are dressed nice, at least ok looking, and not too old, attractive Indo girls will date you. Again, I am not talking about hookers, but everyday regular girls working in the stores, malls, etc. If it was not for the fact I have a 19 year cute white skinned Vietnam girlfriend, I would be dating Indo girls.

[QUOTE=Sanysh11;1777208]Hi Bro,

As BBJ was not there and DFK was almost non existent I gave 50 K each. One girl was speaking Ok english hence the tip.[/QUOTE]Hi,

Thanks for the info.

[QUOTE=Undercoverh;1777195]I have been to Travel MP but I like Classic better. Both have the same low price of 350,000 for one girl and 520,000 for two girls. Thats $25 to $37!! Two young chicks for $37.
I had two girls at Travel but service was bad and I did not tip. I never had two girls at Classic, only one at a time.[/QUOTE]I agree that Travel is worse than Classic. However, in my opinion, it's foolish to take 2 girls at Classic. I've been a fool there at least 10 times (taken 2 girls) and EVERY time the service was horrible. When 2 girls get together in the room at that place, they do not perform as well as they do when they are alone. Then again, the service at Classic even with just one girl is mediocre in the first place. There are many occasions where I have been with 2 girls in Jakarta and had a fantastic fuck session with hot young girls, but Hotel Travel and Hotel Classic are not those type of places. If you take 1 girl at Classic (or Travel), you will fairly consistently get a mediocre but cheap starfish fuck with a young girl. If you take 2 girls, you are wasting your time. (I don't consider it wasting your money because it's only $37, but it is a waste of time.).

If you want to know how much I tip the girls at Classic, I have never tipped the girls anything when I took 2 of them because every time was a disaster. If I take just one girl and she provides mediocre service (normal Classic starfish) but does not use a condom for the BJ, I give her 50k. If she wants to use a condom for the BJ, she gets nothing, and I likely walk out. If she provides good service where I enjoy my time in there with her as well as the fuck, I give her 100k (that is rare at Classic).

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1777290]In my opinion, it's foolish to take 2 girls at Classic. I've been a fool there at least 10 times (taken 2 girls) and EVERY time the service was bad. When 2 girls get together in the room at that place, they do not perform as well as they do when they are alone. [/QUOTE]LOL.

10 times!

Einstein is reputed to have said the definition if madness is doing the same thing over and over and over again expecting a different outcome.

Having said that, I feel your pain. Never pay for 2 girls unless you are confident they will focus on you. 2 girls who share a language you do not understand will so often spend the whole time talking to each other instead of focusing on you. And who the fuck wants that?

[QUOTE=Undercoverh;1777207]I have been to KC and had headaches there.[/QUOTE]Maybe you weren't dressed well enough.

Quick update. I went to Malioboro Club this past Sunday. Got there around 6:30 pm. Four security guys at the front door will check you before you enter. Fee to enter is 120,000 IDR. Tons of girls. Mama stated fee for service is from 800,000 to 2,000,000. The 800,000 is for Indo girls. China, Russian, and Mongolian girls cost 2 M. Good looking Indo girls, but none I would pay 800,000 for. Saw a cute tall white skinned Mongolian girl. She made me home sick for my time spent buying and selling certain goods in Mongolia. I was with a long time Russian friend that makes his living taking out trash, the human type. We drank awhile with the girl from Russia and my Mongolian girl. After awhile, the girls were ready to be taken to the rooms. I paid 2 M for my girl and my buddy paid 2 M for his. I really enjoyed my time with here. She was tall, big breast and hips. My Russian buddy told me he enjoyed his time with his girl. After we cam back, the show had started, which starts at 8 pm. Sexy girls strip and provide lap dances for shot drinks. I spent about $200 there, my buddy spent around $250. This includes cost of girls, drinks, and shots for the girls to dance on you and you can touch all you want. Good time out with an old buddy, so the cost was worth it.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1777293]Maybe you weren't dressed well enough.[/QUOTE]Based on your negative uncalled for messages here to several members on this website, you are this sites official "troll. " You may not know what the word means, so you can Google it. You have more then 1,000 post here, where do you find the time. You spend most of your time sitting in front of your laptop, send negative messages to members post and jerking off to porn. Clearly, you are looking to fight with members. You were most likely the kid that got picked on in school, but you were to afraid to fight back. So, as adult, you spend your time hiding behind a laptop and picking fights with guys on this website. I am sure you will send a child's tantrum response to my message and I can assure you I will not waste my time to read it.

[QUOTE=Undercoverh;1777313]Based on your negative messages here to several members on this website.[/QUOTE]Firstly, I wouldn't call suggesting dressing nicely to be negative since you were the initial one who brought that up in a previous post. But, several? I have only disagreed with you and LA Guy recently and a couple of others over the years, and I've been on this site for almost 20 years, I didn't see you post anything until a few months ago. And LA Guy also made fun of your comments on "dressing nicely". So figure that one out.

If you like Classic, that's great. Enjoy it. I think it's ok because it's so cheap, but I think the service is sub par. I do find that Asians like places like Classic and Westerners not so much. There are plenty of choices in town.

[QUOTE=Undercoverh;1777306]Saw a cute tall white skinned Mongolian girl. [/QUOTE]I don't think I've ever seen a Mongolian girl in there. I like Mongolian girls! I have found them to be much better in bed than Chinese girls. Whenever I go to Beijing (I haven't been recently), I like to go to Maggies and there are both Chinese and Mongolian girls there. I've had some of the best sex in my life with the Mongolian girls from that place. The Chinese girls, not so much. I like it that the Chinese girls consider themselves superior to the Mongolian girls for some reason. They will say things like "you like Mongolian girl?" as if that's some horrible thing. And yes, I like Mongolian girl. I'm not sure why they are better in bed than the Chinese chicks, but it's pretty much without fail that they are better.

Anyone have any information on the below woman, she goes by Nia. Please share any feedback or experiences. Input will be highly appreciated.

Thanks.

Osaka

Just about every other day, I stop by the Indomart store (it is like a 7 11 store in the states) near my hotel to pick up needed items. I often see a cute young Muslim girl working as a sales clerk and she always wear her hijab, as most Muslim girls do here in Indonesia. When I first went to the store, she would only look and not smile. On my second trip to to the store, I smiled and said Hi. She gave me a big smile. After I paid here, I said thanks and bye. Now, when I go to the store, she greets me with a big smile and says Hi. When I left the store, I looked back and she was still looking me and she gave me another smile. Most of the regular, non hooker, Indo girls are shy to talk to foreigners. But if you are nice, give them smiles, and say Hi and thank you, many of them will really light up and be happy to talk to you. I have tried this with many Indo girls working in the mall, stores, etc. And 75 % of the time I get a good response. On my trip to here last year, I actually went out with a Indo girl that was 20 years old. She wore her hijab when we went out and she was a really nice sweet girl. She was seeking a ling term serious relationship and I was just looking for fun. I did not want to play games with her, since she was a very nice girl, so I did not stay in touch with her. If you see girls you like while you are out and about, just be nice with how you talk to them, and enjoy the sweetness you receive in return. Young Indo girls like to go out in groups. So offer to take her and her best friends to a coffee shop. It is a nice break from chasing hookers. At least for me anyway.

As you walk around here in Jakarta, you will see very few Indo guys trying to talk to Indo girls. It is not like America where guys will try to talk to girls walking on the street they do not know. Also, Indo guys here really do not pay much attention to girls working in the mall or stores. And why should they, with all the sex here for sale. Thus, Indo girls really light up when a guy treats them nice and talks friendly to them.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1775643]Most likely you are totally screwed. I'm not in town right now or I'd confirm, but most likely they are closed Wednesday and Thursday (as Hilo77 posted earlier). Really bad timing. You can still contact girls via dating sites or phone dating apps and try to get them to come to your hotel, but all night spots will be closed.

I've never tried Central Park (nor even heard of it for mongering), but if Pete is suggesting it, that could be a possible option. Although I think you would need some more details to find exactly where to go there.[/QUOTE]Guys are hotels girl friendly in Jakarta in muslim country had my reservation.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1777318]Firstly, I wouldn't call suggesting dressing nicely to be negative since you were the initial one who brought that up in a previous post. But, several? I have only disagreed with you and LA Guy recently and a couple of others over the years, and I've been on this site for almost 20 years, I didn't see you post anything until a few months ago. And LA Guy also made fun of your comments on "dressing nicely". So figure that one out.
[/QUOTE]So long as you have decided to mention it, the disagreement between you and me started when you made a snarky remark about how I didn't post photos on this site. In response to your snark I later posted a sarcastic comment "Maybe my high success rate in getting photos is because the girls somehow figure out I am not going to post them on the internet. LOL" Apparently, you didn't understand what "LOL" means or that the post was sarcastic and motivated by the snark you directed at me. You took my sarcastic statement as a serious one despite all indications to the contrary. It degenerated from there, with you then talking about how worthless this forum has become owing to the lack of people who post photos with their reports. Blah, blah, blah.

But thanks for mentioning that in your twenty years here you have only disagreed with me and a couple of others, even if in my case you were disagreeing with a statement you apparently did not understand and one that was a sarcastic response to your unappreciated snark and one that was not meant to be taken seriously.

[QUOTE=VishudJb;1777409]Guys,

Are hotels girl friendly in Jakarta in Muslim country had my reservation.[/QUOTE]The vast majority of hotels in Jakarta are girl friendly. One would have to go out of one's way to find one that isn't.

[QUOTE=LAGuy5;1777465] I later posted a sarcastic comment "Maybe my high success rate in getting photos is because the girls somehow figure out I am not going to post them on the internet. LOL" Apparently, you didn't understand what "LOL" means or that the post was sarcastic [/QUOTE]My mistake. So you actually don't believe that the girls thinking you are not going to post the photos on the internet has anything to do with anything? So you are now going to share your photos with your fellow mongers here? Sorry for my initial confusion then.

[QUOTE=Osaka;1777341]Anyone have any information on the below woman, she goes by Nia. Please share any feedback or experiences. Input will be highly appreciated.

Thanks.

Osaka[/QUOTE]I do not know her. She looks to be about 40 years old. What information are you looking to find?

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1777496]My mistake. So you actually don't believe that the girls thinking you are not going to post the photos on the internet has anything to do with anything? So you are now going to share your photos with your fellow mongers here? Sorry for my initial confusion then.[/QUOTE]Wrong again.

[QUOTE=Undercoverh;1777195]I am currently in Jakarta and I visited Classic a few nights ago and had a good time. In addition, I agree with your overall comments. I have been to other MPs in North Jakarta, but it is not worth since they cost a lot more for Indo girls, starting at 800,000 at some MP here in Jakarta. For overall value, Classic wins. I have been to Travel MP but I like Classic better. Both have the same low price of 350,000 for one girl and 520,000 for two girls. Thats $25 to $37!! Two young chicks for $37. Some guys on this website do not like Classic. As for me, I always have a good time there.

Just wondering, did you tip both the girls? If yes, how much? I had two girls at Travel but service was bad and I did not tip. I never had two girls at Classic, only one at a time.[/QUOTE]To Undercoverh.

I think it is good to tip the girl 50 k if service is good girl are very pushy on tipping at classic and hotel travel not so at king cross, I don't think they get a fair share of the 350 k the house get most of that, I do try to offer extra tip upfront to get BBBJ but most girl there just don't offer that if you want to get BBBJ you better off go to Panjay brothel price is about the same room is crappy but you get BBBJ.

Fast eddie 48.

[QUOTE=FastEddie48;1777598]To Undercoverh.

I think it is good to tip the girl 50 k if service is good girl are very pushy on tipping at classic and hotel travel not so at king cross, I don't think they get a fair share of the 350 k the house get most of that, I do try to offer extra tip upfront to get BBBJ but most girl there just don't offer that if you want to get BBBJ you better off go to Panjay brothel price is about the same room is crappy but you get BBBJ.

Fast eddie 48.[/QUOTE]I agree that as a general rule the rooms at the Penjay bars are crappy but the VIP room at LA Bar, which does cost a bit more (but not much more), actually is quite good.

[QUOTE=Hilo77;1762613]Isn't it just?

I gave up on Classic a long time ago. I had enjoyed a long and fun-filled afternoon and having a few hours to spare decided to give Classic a last chance.

I got a good-looking girl brought to my table, tall and slim with a nice rack, after a while the conversation was a bit leaden but I kept it going as I couldn't be bothered making the change and because I liked the look of her body.

In the room the usual story, perfunctory BJ (at least it was uncovered) and then straight into missionary, I did that for a while and then indicated she should flip herself over as a nice bit of doggy-style would finish the evening the way I wanted it. She flat out refused, with a sullen, contemptuous even, "gak mau, ah!" and indicating that she wasn't prepared to discuss the matter further. Just to be clear here I wasn't seeking some foul perversion, I wasn't asking her to open her mouth so I could take a dump or something, I was requesting a standard sexual position that used to be the default session in brothels in my youth.

I did what I never did before, I whipped off the johnnie, threw it on the floor, showered and dressed and walked out of the room with neither a fond farewell nor a tip, leaving her alone to enjoy her walk of shame past the cleaning staff.

I wonder is it just bules who get this terrible service because we are regarded as soft touches. I somehow can't imagine a local punter, Chinese or otherwise, putting up wth that after handing over his hard-earned.[/QUOTE]The Mams at Classic enjoy being pushy. F them. When I go, and Mama walks up to me trying to give me a girl, I nicely but firmly tell her I want to take my time and pick my own girl. If Mama goes ahead and brings me a girl, I will nicely refuse the girl, and tell Mama I want to select my own girl. If Mama does it again I get up and start walking around. I have no problems to refuese each girl if Mama is not going to listen to me and keep sending me girls I did not ask for after I told her nicely I want to select my own girl.

Note that Classic has Mama assigned to certain girl groups. That is why Mama always try to drag you to her girls section and does not want you to walk away to another Mamas section. They get a cut of what you pay for the girl, that is why they are so pushy. Also, the girls they push on you bares no relatiinship to good service. It is just the girl Mama thinks you should be f**king. The hell with that, no women is going to tell me who I should f**k!! I make my own choice, I always have and I always will. That goes for any MP. Some Mamas walk off and act like the are angry with me, F them. Plus, they are just acting as if they are upset with you. They know how to play the game.

When you go to Classic, never sit first. Talk a walk pass ALL the girls, smile at them, see whick smiles back. Some men are shy to do this. Hey, they are hookers who suck and F for a living, why should you be shy of them. After you see the girls that smile at you, these are the girls you want to select from. Then take a seat and think about which of the girls you want to F. Mama will come back and then you tell Mama which ones to bring over.

If no girls smile at you, take a seat. Check out which girls are acting happy vs which ones look like they are going to sleep. It should be clear, never pick a bored looking girl or one that acts like she does not want to be there. Look at the girls that turn you on. When I was there last weekend, there was this tall big Indo girl with big boobs and ass and full lips. I did my walk but she did not smile at me, that is ok, some girls are shy, ya even if they are hookers. I sat and watched her with her short dress and big legs crossed. I was getting an hard on thinking about her fat pu**y. She was very playful with her friends sitting next to her. So I asked Mama to bring her over to my table. I gave her a big smile and took her hand holding it. I told you are so cute and you have lovely hair. Then a big smile came from her and she seemed to warm up to me. So off to the room we go. When we get to the room, before I could sit on the bed, she put her arms around me and kissed me as I was holding onto her big soft Indo ass. We had a good F, and she even licked my ass while she gave me a BJ.

Note, some girls do not want to be a Classic. They are there because they have to be. And they just do the F but have already decide they will not enjoy it. These are not the girls you want to pick.

I tipped her 100,000. Total cost of fun with a 19 yo Indo babe, $32. For me, I like to go to places like Classic around 3pm or 3:30 pm during the week. The selection is not as great as in the weekend or at night, but I like to get the girls when they are fresh and have not F 10 guys yet for the day. Also, I do not like being there when it has a ton of customers. That is just me, to each their own.

No matter what, sometimes you will have a bad F with a hooker. When that happens to me at, say a place like Classic, I really do not care because it only cost $24 and no tip.

Well, I just got back from a very fun trip to Jakarta. I'll be posting my thoughts and try to cover things that aren't usually covered. Maybe give some insight to people that may want to visit.

I was there for a week before heading off to Pattaya and Angeles. I always like to try a new location, but I just keep going back to Thailand. Can't get enough of that place.

I think the quality of hotels vs the price you pay is very favorable. I stayed at a relatively budget hotel (FavHotels) and it was a very nice room with the basic amenities for a good price. Staff were excellent and the breakfast that was included was good but simple.

I want to go over BATS first. I tried going there one night, keyword is "tried". I wish someone mentioned that they have a dress code. Particularly no shorts. Now that may seem obvious to some, but it would have been good information to have. BATS is located in the fancy hotel Shangri-La. It is a nice hotel. When my taxi drove up to it, they had dogs sniffing cars, checking trunks, under cars, everything. Security is very high here. Reminds you that Indonesia is not all rainbows and roses.

Transportation. Taxi's are not expensive. They are relatively cheap. However the city is a shit storm when it comes to infrastructure. It takes a long to get somewhere, so plan out your route with the places you want to visit in advance. Sometimes you just have to take the hit with taxi's that want to price gouge you. One time I left Kings Cross and the Taxi's there wanted 200 k. I knew it was only about 100 k from my hotel to Kings Cross so I countered with 150 k, and the taxi accepted. Sometimes its ok to pay more, just not ridiculously more. Know how much you are over paying.

Also, despite the many reports not all Taxi drivers know where all the best spots to get pussy are, its not true. Probably the only hotel every Taxi driver knew about was Classic. I had to show directions and addresses to many other locations including Kings Cross, Malioboro and Alexis. So have the address ready to show the taxi.

Spa's and Bath houses.

This may not be for everyone. It was definitely something I enjoyed immensely. You can only spend so much of your time balls deep in Indo pussy and you usually can't do that during the morning time unless you had a guest stay overnight.

Classic Bunker basement level inside Classic Hotel- When you get there for the first time, don't be afraid to ask for directions, they know why you are there, its not a regular hotel. They have a very nice spa. It includes a sauna, steam room, treadmill cold / hot tub. Use it, You are on vacation take some time to steam up, open up those pores, get a massage and relax. I definitely enjoyed going through the whole experience of pampering myself. After you relaxed your body and detoxified, put on your robe and walk right it to the brothel portion to get your "special massage" by special I mean sex. Depending on the girl you select, you could end up with a pro level massage or an amateur attempt by a girl that really only intended to spread her legs. The mamasan can help you choose. They have a wide selection of Indo girls as well as imports. Of course imports cost more. It was a great experience and they open early. You can start your bath house experience before the brothel opens up.

[QUOTE=LAGuy5;1777509]Wrong again.[/QUOTE]Or you could say "right in the first place".

[QUOTE=Sock111;1777679]
I want to go over BATS first. I tried going there one night, keyword is "tried". I wish someone mentioned that they have a dress code. Particularly no shorts. Now that may seem obvious to some, but it would have been good information to have.[/QUOTE]I find it a good rule of thumb to never wear shorts to go anywhere in Jakarta. Ever. Not even during the day. In Bali, it's the norm, but not in Jakarta.

And if you are going out at night, wear a shirt with a collar regardless of where you plan to go (just in case).

I had a good laugh at Dragonfly. A young bule in his 20's showed up there wearing a shirt that is popular for young guys to wear in the US. A white undershirt with a V neck. They refused to let him in wearing that. He complained to no end. They gave him the option of renting a shirt from them if he wanted to go in. He did that. The shirt he rented was the worst looking clownish shirt I've seen in a long time, but it did have a collar. It looked like hell on him. LOL! But he wore it.

There was another time we went to the Le Meridien night club and a guy was trying to get in wearing shorts. They refused him entrance. But they did offer to allow him to rent a pair of long pants for the evening. Again, those pants were goofy looking as hell. Big baggy pants fit for an elephant. It was hilarious. He was still, of course, able to pick up a hooker to take home.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1777769]Or you could say "right in the first place".[/QUOTE]You got a serious problem dude. I have no idea what you think you were so right about, but if it makes you feel better believe what you will.

Greetings from the Beijing board,

I'll be visiting Jakarta mid-October on business and looking to sample my first Indo ladies. I won't have too much time to travel into the centre of the city. Staying out in Tangerang, specifically near the Lippo Village. RTFF and searched, but nothing concrete turned up. Can anyone advise or recommend somewhere to go, or anyone I can contact directly before arrival?

PM is working and empty.

Thanks in advance.

I'm planning a trip somewhere around the end of Nov and would appreciate if someone can tell me the weather situation in Nov. Read that the rains start in Oct. Is it manageable to travel during the rains or is it bad enough to ruin your trip?

[QUOTE=LAGuy5;1777775]You got a serious problem dude. I have no idea what you think you were so right about, but if it makes you feel better believe what you will.[/QUOTE]To LA Guy 5.

You should know by now he is a ISG Mafia he know everything and he is right all the time, he feel better about himself if he correct you.

Fast eddie 48.

[QUOTE=JimmyB89;1777843]Greetings from the Beijing board,

I'll be visiting Jakarta mid-October on business and looking to sample my first Indo ladies. I won't have too much time to travel into the centre of the city. Staying out in Tangerang, specifically near the Lippo Village. RTFF and searched, but nothing concrete turned up. Can anyone advise or recommend somewhere to go, or anyone I can contact directly before arrival?

PM is working and empty.

Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]I've only been out there a couple of times. It was kind of a hot area about 10 years ago as far as a reasonably priced suburb to live. I always thought the name "Lippo Karawaci" sounded cool, so I checked it out to see if I might want to live there. But it's far from the heart of the action of Jakarta. As far as mongering in the area, I am no expert or even a novice when it comes to Tangerang. However, if you are near the Aryaduta in that area, there is a bar there that had a couple of decent girls sitting in it the one night I was there and they looked to be approachable. I wouldn't call it a hot spot or anything, but there's a chance. You may want to try the dateinasia site and search for girls living in tangerang. If you can hook one of those, you could meet them for coffee, then to your room if it works out.

If they give you a car and driver, you could have the car drive into Jakarta, but it is not a short drive. If you do that, you wouldn't want to head into Jakarta any earlier than 9 pm due to traffic. And you would get home fairly late. If you are in town for the weekend, you may want to book a hotel in Jakarta and stay there for the weekend rather than Tangerang.

I know there are some guys who do visit this site who will have more info on Tangerang than I have. It just depends if they log on before you visit. Good luck!

I got a few PM about Panjay it is short for Pangeran Jayakarta in Kota near Mangar Dua mall also know as Kota Indah, there are KTV and night club there mostly for local music are very loud some have fish bowl girl are young and pretty same price as hotel travel with small room upstair, I find girl have better attuide here and offer BBBJ.

Fast eddie 48.

[QUOTE=FastEddie48;1632436]

This 2 guys Menteng and Ko think they are forum Mafia I know their type very insecure people like to rag on other member to made himself look good, old ko post a few photo on the same girl over and over again from 5 yr ago from Maribaya and HE think HE is god get a life old fart.

Fast eddie 48.[/QUOTE]Although MANY forum members have insulted you and called you a liar over the years, I have never once been one who did that to you (go check the old posts if you don't believe it). But since you just now posted that I am included in that group, I am guessing they are all correct. And considering I have great respect for the 2 guys you are calling out here (Menteng and Ko) and have met them both in person and know them both to be stand up guys, I am not surprised.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1777993]Although MANY forum members have insulted you and called you a liar over the years, I have never once been one who did that to you (go check the old posts if you don't believe it). But since you just now posted that I am included in that group, I am guessing they are all correct. And considering I have great respect for the 2 guys you are calling out here (Menteng and Ko) and have met them both in person and know them both to be stand up guys, I am not surprised.[/QUOTE]To smoothy.

I contact Menteng and oldman ko on my last trip they are no show and they said I am a fake because we never meet, maybe on my next trip early next yr we can meet up at King Cross for a drink, I know you have many post here and offer a lot of good info but you like to correct the newbie too much.

Fast eddie 48.

Hi,

I will be going to one of these spas such as Alexis for the first time and I probably want to try one of these pools where I can enjoy my time with my chick. I understand that there will be many other chicks and bros in the pool as well. Is it like a nude beach, orgy kinda thing? Is everyone like naked? I will surely have an erection. And do all guys have an erection there. And its like not a big deal. Else it will be so embarrassing.

[QUOTE=BluePhone;1778076]Hi,

I will be going to one of these spas such as Alexis for the first time and I probably want to try one of these pools where I can enjoy my time with my chick. I understand that there will be many other chicks and bros in the pool as well. Is it like a nude beach, orgy kinda thing? Is everyone like naked? I will surely have an erection. And do all guys have an erection there. And its like not a big deal. Else it will be so embarrassing.[/QUOTE]I have only been to Alexis once, and my memory is not crystal clear. However, I do remember being a little bit disappointed in the pool time (before the actual session). I remember that although the girl I was with did a bit of regular massage, like shoulders, while I was in the pool, I don't remember anything particularly sexual going on. I believe they gave a bathing suit to me for the pool, although I don't have a specific memory about that. Also, I don't remember the girls being nude. Then again, when I was there there were not many couples at all in the pool, and there is the chance the girl I was with was less adventurous than others.

But others who have more experience at Alexis (and clearer memories) might have had other experiences than I did that one time.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1777498]I do not know her. She looks to be about 40 years old. What information are you looking to find?[/QUOTE]Just general information, like is she see around the Blok M, have any of you guys been with her. Is she a serious player? Or just a part time in search of extra dough.

[QUOTE=BluePhone;1778076]Hi,

I will be going to one of these spas such as Alexis for the first time and I probably want to try one of these pools where I can enjoy my time with my chick. I understand that there will be many other chicks and bros in the pool as well. Is it like a nude beach, orgy kinda thing? Is everyone like naked? I will surely have an erection. And do all guys have an erection there. And its like not a big deal. Else it will be so embarrassing.[/QUOTE]I can help you out with that. Since I got there super early, I was able to snap a few pictures without anyone complaining.

Pictured is the pool. Its not very big.

[QUOTE=Sock111;1778540]I can help you out with that. Since I got there super early, I was able to snap a few pictures without anyone complaining.

Pictured is the pool. Its not very big.[/QUOTE]Hi there,

Thank you! Am actually thinking and worried about the embarrassment about whether I will have an erection that everyone can see. Especially with so many chicks around.

[QUOTE=JimmyB89;1777843]Staying out in Tangerang, specifically near the Lippo Village.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1777991]You may want to try the dateinasia site and search for girls living in tangerang.[/QUOTE]I had some contacts from Badoo and Dateinasia which gave Jakarta as their location although staying in Tangerang.

So you might use these sites and specify that you are in Tangerang.

Dee.

[QUOTE=Osaka;1778302]Just general information, like is she see around the Blok M, have any of you guys been with her. Is she a serious player? Or just a part time in search of extra dough.[/QUOTE]You should ask Mas Dar who works in Dees Place these days, he wears the oversize suits and everyone takes him for a schmuck. But he's been working the clubs 7 days a week since his teens and has a very very good memory for faces and events.

If it's more serious info. You need there is a Scottish British guy who does PI work in Indonesia, mainly fujitive and matrimonial stuff I think (judging by the questions he asks me).

I just found out that when you're not logged in, postings from members on your ignore list will be visible. That way I stumbled upon the latest posting of Fat Eddie where he mentioned me. He wrote that I was a-no-showup.

Let me repeat what really happened. He informed that he would be in Jakarta in a period that I would be there also. So I challenged him to meet during that stay but he insists to meet on a moment outside the to him known period of my stay.

Of course I couldn't comply to that and in his strange way of thinking that makes me a person who does not show up.

I don't mind him thinking that way, because his ability to think apparently is limited, but I don't like it when he, for no clear reasons, repeatedly accuses me of being a-no-showup in this thread.

[QUOTE=BluePhone;1778076]Hi,

I will be going to one of these spas such as Alexis for the first time and I probably want to try one of these pools where I can enjoy my time with my chick. I understand that there will be many other chicks and bros in the pool as well. Is it like a nude beach, orgy kinda thing? Is everyone like naked? I will surely have an erection. And do all guys have an erection there. And its like not a big deal. Else it will be so embarrassing.[/QUOTE]Blue phone, about Alexis:

1. Although the pool is not very big but even if 4 or 5 couples are in there at the same time they wouldn't be very close to each other. The girls distance themselves at appropriate intervals. I have been with 2 or 3 couples but in different side with comfortable distance between. Only thing which can bother you is the "buyers remorse" by seeing a hot chick with other guy. 555.

2. Noone's naked in the pool, You have to wear shorts and your girl will be in a bikini.

3. Girls will give you a shoulder massage, get on top of you and maybe kiss you (depending on your chemistry), fondle your tool or dry hump you. You can get a good feel of them but that's about it. No nude beach or orgy going on. The light and ambiance of the pool area is very good.

4. As you are on a clock so after 10 or 15 minutes either you will feel the urge or the girl will ask that you go to the room.

5. Even with multiple couples in the pool at the same time everyone is pretty busy in their own pleasure so no need to feel being watched or stared at.

Tip: Try to get there early evening (preferably 4 pm to 6 pm) when the pickings are good and the crowd is thin.

Spas such as Malioboro or the Hotel Classic (basement) also have a pool but girls don't accompany you there. Alexis is the only one I experienced. I am not aware of other Spas hence you can check further upon them.

Hope you have a great time as I did and share your FR once back.

[QUOTE=JimmyB89;1777843]Greetings from the Beijing board,

I'll be visiting Jakarta mid-October on business and looking to sample my first Indo ladies. I won't have too much time to travel into the centre of the city. Staying out in Tangerang, specifically near the Lippo Village. RTFF and searched, but nothing concrete turned up. Can anyone advise or recommend somewhere to go, or anyone I can contact directly before arrival?

PM is working and empty.

Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]Tangerang like Depok and other satellite towns of Jakarta have local administrations that are leading the movement to "clean up Dodge". They are promoting their towns as modern, moral and religious places in order to attract the many newly minted middle class Indonesian families to live in their otherwise soulless suburbs. The thinking being that people will move there if they can raise their kids in an environment free from drugs, booze and "free sex" (corruption, pollution, traffic congestion and ghastly town planning presumably being factors of life that such people are happy to live with) because as we all know the sure-fire guarantee of preventing kids doing something is by passing a law that prevents adults doing it.

If I am not wrong alcohol cannot be purchased anywhere in South Tangerang, including bars, restaurants and hotels. Jakarta itself (ie the municipalities of North, South, East, West and Central Jakarta) is increasingly becoming an oasis (along with Bali) in an otherwise ever-drier desert in Indonesia. I have said it before, booze is the canary in the coal mine, where the booze ban leads the mongering ban rapidly follows.

I would stick to Jakarta, it's your safest bet, for now, although I wouldn't be so confident of saying that in five or ten years' time.

[QUOTE=Hilo77;1779016]Jakarta itself (ie the municipalities of North, South, East, West and Central Jakarta) is increasingly becoming an oasis (along with Bali) in an otherwise ever-drier desert in Indonesia.[/QUOTE]I remember that they were going to allow alcoholic drinks only in the five-stars hotels and Bali. I'm relieved that, for the time being anyway, other places in Jakarta are still free to serve those drinks. But, I suppose that buying Bintang etc in supermarkets, is not possible anymore.

Staying at FX Harris. De Leila seems to have opened up for business to the right side of the mall as you enter. Fancy sign and steps leading downstairs. Is this the same De Leila from Gatot Subroto area which served arabian mongers? I'm being kept busy both in and out of bed by my online dates, hence no time to check out.

[QUOTE=Menteng;1778714]I just found out that when you're not logged in, postings from members on your ignore list will be visible. That way I stumbled upon the latest posting of Fat Eddie where he mentioned me. He wrote that I was a-no-showup.

Let me repeat what really happened. He informed that he would be in Jakarta in a period that I would be there also. So I challenged him to meet during that stay but he insists to meet on a moment outside the to him known period of my stay.

Of course I couldn't comply to that and in his strange way of thinking that makes me a person who does not show up.

I don't mind him thinking that way, because his ability to think apparently is limited, but I don't like it when he, for no clear reasons, repeatedly accuses me of being a-no-showup in this thread.[/QUOTE]By now it has become quite clear that Eddie maybe travels around the world, but he has never done anything worth reporting in Jakarta, otherwise he would have posted some field reports or, better yet, pictures. To quote another senior member: "Without a picture, it didn't happen". Last December he managed to evade several senior members who volunteered to meet him.

I think it is best if the serious posters in the Indonesia forum ignore him until he posts something credible.

Regards,

Ko.

[QUOTE=DeeKa;1778659]I had some contacts from Badoo and Dateinasia which gave Jakarta as their location although staying in Tangerang.

So you might use these sites and specify that you are in Tangerang.

Dee.[/QUOTE]Depends what your after, but get yourself to the golden boulevard Ruko you will find numerous massage / spa places.

There is a Delta there, a blowjob bar called BLOWART, Jupiter Spa and Orchid spas which are like a Delta.

You will also find seedier ones which offer BJ or FJ in this ruko, although I don't know their names. Generally I find the classier like Delta they are, the less likely it is FS and only a HJ.

Gading Serpong has options too, as does Alam Sutera. Google them with the words 'spa gading serpong' etc for more info.

[QUOTE=BluePhone;1778076]Hi,

I will be going to one of these spas such as Alexis for the first time and I probably want to try one of these pools where I can enjoy my time with my chick. I understand that there will be many other chicks and bros in the pool as well. Is it like a nude beach, orgy kinda thing? Is everyone like naked? I will surely have an erection. And do all guys have an erection there. And its like not a big deal. Else it will be so embarrassing.[/QUOTE]What's embarrassing about having an erection? If you're playing around with a girl in the pool and then retreat with her to a room everybody will take it for granted that you will at least have an erection in there, so why not before that? You would feel very embarrased in D's Place VIP room.

Well, I am back home after my three month sojourn to SEA. I have so much to report on that it is overwhelming just contemplating imparting my experiences on this board. My four week stay in Jakarta was one of my best trips ever, comparable to my trips to Rio de Janeiro and FKKs and my 2008 trip to Singapore. I must thank the Jakarta aficionados on this board, especially Natty Bumpo, who more than anything else were responsible for me making this trip from Thailand rather than going elsewhere.

At this time I will give the highlight of my trip and it will surprise many. My greatest sessions were not with the Indonesian cuties but actually with the "imports" at Malioboro. CIS ladies have generally been accused of being cold by punters but that has never really been my experience with them which has mostly been at German FKKs. I got excellent GFE and even PSE (which I don't so much care for) from the Russians, Kazaks and Uzbeks at Malioboro.

My experience is that the Jakarta mamasans are the best mamasans on the planet. They are great fun. On more than one occasion I saw girls fondle the breasts of their mamasans. These mamasans are very playful and on several occasions I got very touchy feely with them prior to making my choice. The best looking mamasan I have ever seen is Uzbek Camilla at Malioboro. She is better looking than most of her girls. She is very clever at deflecting overtures of which I made many. Anyone knows her story? I also sessioned a Mongolian (about 5' 5" without heels) and several absolutely gorgeous Chinese.

I only had one bad session during my four week visit and that was with an Indo beauty. All the warning signs were there. She was very cold in the pre-session interview; I even asked her if she would rather not go with me but she insisted on proceeding. All the warning signs were there but she was so hot that I threw caution to the wind. In the room my hard-on quickly went south due to the icy and starfish disposition. Service before hotness. Lesson learnt for the umpteenth time.

Are Indonesian WGs the horniest in SEA? After many sessions I cannot give an affirmative response to this question. The Jury is still out. I find that no particular nationality in SEA stands out like the Brazilians do in Latin America. The rule of thumb for me in SEA is to always session with the girl who smiles or otherwise displays friendliness towards you. I have never been disappointed by choosing such a girl in SEA.

With the demise of hobbying in Geylang, Singapore and in China, Jakarta is definitely in a foremost position for my future visits to SEA. I am actually inclined to place Jakarta as my number one destination in SEA as Rio is in Latin America and Frankfurt in Europe.

[QUOTE=KoperenKarel;1779360]To quote another senior member: "Without a picture, it didn't happen".
[/QUOTE]Kind of an idiotic stateent, no? I have known quite a few guys who have been burned by posting pictures of girls on forums such as this one. Moreover, to post pictures of girls from Indonesia of all places, a country that while supporting some level of mongering also has its extreme fundamentalist Muslim side, is really inconsiderate of the girls and their families, unless the picture is posted with informed consent, which you are rarely going to get in Indonesia, or the picture does not include the face or other identifying information, in which case what is the point?

By the way, so long as you are going to pull the "senior member" card, a few years back on a competing website I posted an extensive guide to Sao Paulo that was voted the best guide of the year from any locale by the membership there. It did not include a single picture of a girl, but did include an extensive amount of useful information. Maybe useful information rather than petulant posts such as your current one should be the rule here.

[QUOTE=KiJang;1779081]Staying at FX Harris. De Leila seems to have opened up for business to the right side of the mall as you enter. Fancy sign and steps leading downstairs. Is this the same De Leila from Gatot Subroto area which served arabian mongers? I'm being kept busy both in and out of bed by my online dates, hence no time to check out.[/QUOTE]To answer my own question, yes it's the same club, new location. This is bad news for me as a FX Harris regular. Returning back after late night drinks with my date, I had to run the gauntlet of rows of shouty arab men and ranks of taxis while entering FX. Previously the mall entrance used to be deserted and quiet. I expect the demographic of the guests to change soon, and I will have to find a new base in Jakarta. I personally don't have anything against uncultured arab youth who frequent these types of establishments, but it's a mood killer when you have a classy Indo girl that you have just wined and dined and after a romantic movie outing you have to walk her through this riff raff to get back to your room.

On a side note I will try and scope out what's on offer tonight at De Leila, if time permits.

[QUOTE=LAGuy5;1779402]Kind of an idiotic stateent, no? I have known quite a few guys who have been burned by posting pictures of girls on forums such as this one. Moreover, to post pictures of girls from Indonesia of all places, a country that while supporting some level of mongering also has its extreme fundamentalist Muslim side, is really inconsiderate of the girls and their families, unless the picture is posted with informed consent, which you are rarely going to get in Indonesia, or the picture does not include the face or other identifying information, in which case what is the point?

By the way, so long as you are going to pull the "senior member" card, a few years back on a competing website I posted an extensive guide to Sao Paulo that was voted the best guide of the year from any locale by the membership there. It did not include a single picture of a girl, but did include an extensive amount of useful information. Maybe useful information rather than petulant posts such as your current one should be the rule here.[/QUOTE]I disagree. Korpei's excellent photos give you an accurate idea of the hot girls you can get in Indo. His photos are what persuaded me to go there.

[QUOTE=Turgid;1779383]Well, I am back home after my three month sojourn to SEA. I have so much to report on that it is overwhelming just contemplating imparting my experiences on this board. My four week stay in Jakarta was one of my best trips ever, comparable to my trips to Rio de Janeiro and FKKs and my 2008 trip to Singapore. I must thank the Jakarta aficionados on this board, especially Natty Bumpo, who more than anything else were responsible for me making this trip from Thailand rather than going elsewhere.

At this time I will give the highlight of my trip and it will surprise many. My greatest sessions were not with the Indonesian cuties but actually with the "imports" at Malioboro. CIS ladies have generally been accused of being cold by punters but that has never really been my experience with them which has mostly been at German FKKs. I got excellent GFE and even PSE (which I don't so much care for) from the Russians, Kazaks and Uzbeks at Malioboro.

My experience is that the Jakarta mamasans are the best mamasans on the planet. They are great fun. On more than one occasion I saw girls fondle the breasts of their mamasans. These mamasans are very playful and on several occasions I got very touchy feely with them prior to making my choice. The best looking mamasan I have ever seen is Uzbek Camilla at Malioboro. She is better looking than most of her girls. She is very clever at deflecting overtures of which I made many. Anyone knows her story? I also sessioned a Mongolian (about 5' 5" without heels) and several absolutely gorgeous Chinese.

I only had one bad session during my four week visit and that was with an Indo beauty. All the warning signs were there. She was very cold in the pre-session interview; I even asked her if she would rather not go with me but she insisted on proceeding. All the warning signs were there but she was so hot that I threw caution to the wind. In the room my hard-on quickly went south due to the icy and starfish disposition. Service before hotness. Lesson learnt for the umpteenth time.

Are Indonesian WGs the horniest in SEA? After many sessions I cannot give an affirmative response to this question. The Jury is still out. I find that no particular nationality in SEA stands out like the Brazilians do in Latin America. The rule of thumb for me in SEA is to always session with the girl who smiles or otherwise displays friendliness towards you. I have never been disappointed by choosing such a girl in SEA.

With the demise of hobbying in Geylang, Singapore and in China, Jakarta is definitely in a foremost position for my future visits to SEA. I am actually inclined to place Jakarta as my number one destination in SEA as Rio is in Latin America and Frankfurt in Europe.[/QUOTE]Really? How is Frankfurt better than Cologne?

[QUOTE=HotMale9833;1779569]I disagree. Korpei's excellent photos give you an accurate idea of the hot girls you can get in Indo. His photos are what persuaded me to go there.[/QUOTE]And what exactly did I say that you are you disagreeing with?; it is not at all clear from your post given that after stating you disagree, you then started talking about something not addressed at all in my post.

[QUOTE=LAGuy5;1779595]And what exactly did I say that you are you disagreeing with?; it is not at all clear from your post given that after stating you disagree, you then started talking about something not addressed at all in my post.[/QUOTE]You really are in argumentative mode lately, aren't you? Are there any members left that you don't disagree with?

Sit down, count to ten and think before putting finger to keyboard.

[QUOTE=KoperenKarel;1779621]You really are in argumentative mode lately, aren't you? Are there any members left that you don't disagree with?

Sit down, count to ten and think before putting finger to keyboard.[/QUOTE]I counted to ten, thought about what I was going to say, and that does not change the fact your earlier post, reproduced immediately below, remains patently immature, idiotic and a waste of bandwidth:

"By now it has become quite clear that Eddie maybe travels around the world, but he has never done anything worth reporting in Jakarta, otherwise he would have posted some field reports or, better yet, pictures. To quote another senior member: "Without a picture, it didn't happen". Last December he managed to evade several senior members who volunteered to meet him.

"I think it is best if the serious posters in the Indonesia forum ignore him until he posts something credible."

It is hilarious that after posting such cringe-worthy drivel you would accuse [I]me[/I] of being argumentative.

As to my asking Hotmale9833 to clarify what he disagreed with in my post, asking for clarification about what in my post he disagreed with is not being argumentative, contrary to your fantasies.

[QUOTE=Turgid;1779383] I am actually inclined to place Jakarta as my number one destination in SEA as Rio is in Latin America and Frankfurt in Europe.[/QUOTE]1. Rio to Sao Paolo (Brazil) is what Pattaya is to Bangkok in terms of quality and quantity.

2. Frankfurt is so depressing. RLD is full of empty rooms in those 5-6 floors buildings around the station.

The FKK's are populated by mechanical under performer Romanian chicks. Plus the chicks from all nationalities act like used car salesmen (e. g: Finger in the arse?. That's 50 E extra).

I would erase Europe all together from my mongering map. There are plenty of untapped destinations in SE Asia that need to be discovered. A forum like this is helpful.

[QUOTE=LAGuy5;1779636]I counted to ten, thought about what I was going to say, and that does not change the fact your earlier post, reproduced immediately below, remains patently immature, idiotic and a waste of bandwidth:

"By now it has become quite clear that Eddie maybe travels around the world, but he has never done anything worth reporting in Jakarta, otherwise he would have posted some field reports or, better yet, pictures. To quote another senior member: "Without a picture, it didn't happen". Last December he managed to evade several senior members who volunteered to meet him.

"I think it is best if the serious posters in the Indonesia forum ignore him until he posts something credible."

It is hilarious that after posting such cringe-worthy drivel you would accuse [I]me[/I] of being argumentative.

As to my asking Hotmale9833 to clarify what he disagreed with in my post, asking for clarification about what in my post he disagreed with is not being argumentative, contrary to your fantasies.[/QUOTE]I wish you a happy and peaceful life, living with yourself 24/7.

[QUOTE=LAGuy5;1779595]And what exactly did I say that you are you disagreeing with?; it is not at all clear from your post given that after stating you disagree, you then started talking about something not addressed at all in my post.[/QUOTE]I think it is a monger's duty to post photos to insure the veracity and the quality of the talent. Bros before hoes!

[QUOTE=Tiradentes;1779646]1. Rio to Sao Paolo (Brazil) is what Pattaya is to Bangkok in terms of quality and quantity.

2. Frankfurt is so depressing. RLD is full of empty rooms in those 5-6 floors buildings around the station.

The FKK's are populated by mechanical under performer Romanian chicks. Plus the chicks from all nationalities act like used car salesmen (e. g: Finger in the arse?. That's 50 E extra).

I would erase Europe all together from my mongering map. There are plenty of untapped destinations in SE Asia that need to be discovered. A forum like this is helpful.[/QUOTE]It seems that we agree that Brazil rules Latin America.

With respect to Frankfurt I would never, never do the RLD it is a tourist rip off and a complete waste of time. The FKKs are a different story – tons of the hottest WGs on the planet totally nude – the lure is just too great for me. Furthermore, you do get some great action if you choose wisely. The secret is to make a list from the recommendations of posters on ISG. I get bad service when I choose based only on hotness which is my Achilles heel. Besides I have a severe weakness for European broads.

I do agree, however, that SE Asia is a treasure trove of corporeal delights and I do plan in taking an entire year perhaps in 2017 or 2018 to spend travelling through those countries, with particular emphasis on Jakarta.

[QUOTE=Turgid;1779383]My four week stay in Jakarta was one of my best trips ever,

With the demise of hobbying in Geylang, Singapore [/QUOTE]In Singapore, its not just Geylang that's dead brother. The market has simply gone awry. The pricing is beyond imagination, the selection and quality of women is poor and the service leaves a lot to be desired. At least this is the story in 80% of your adventures. You may occasionally get lucky but there are no guarantees.

Jakarta is definitely one of the hottest destinations in SEA today for mongering but if you were on the scene in Jakarta around 3 years back you will agree with me that things are changing. And these changes do not augur well for our hobby. Make the most of it while you can and while its available. Good luck!

A friend of mine thinks he's got enough to try his luck with them. I suggested Red Square, X2 and Vertigo. Anymore places?

[QUOTE=Menteng;1780019]A friend of mine thinks he's got enough to try his luck with them. I suggested Red Square, X2 and Vertigo. Anymore places?[/QUOTE]I think both Red Square and Vertigo are closed now. X2 is still popular and a good recommendation. Try Immigrant in Plaza Indonesia, that would be my top recommendation. Also could try Dragonfly (at Graha BIP), Skye (at Menara BCA), Cloud (at Plaza Office Tower), Blowfish (at Wisma Mulia), Buddha Bar (in Menteng and only has a crowd on certain nights).

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1780034]I think both Red Square and Vertigo are closed now. X2 is still popular and a good recommendation. Try Immigrant in Plaza Indonesia, that would be my top recommendation. Also could try Dragonfly (at Graha BIP), Skye (at Menara BCA), Cloud (at Plaza Office Tower), Blowfish (at Wisma Mulia), Buddha Bar (in Menteng and only has a crowd on certain nights).[/QUOTE]Thanks for the input. Hope to report on his odyssee.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1780034]I think both Red Square and Vertigo are closed now. X2 is still popular and a good recommendation. Try Immigrant in Plaza Indonesia, that would be my top recommendation. Also could try Dragonfly (at Graha BIP), Skye (at Menara BCA), Cloud (at Plaza Office Tower), Blowfish (at Wisma Mulia), Buddha Bar (in Menteng and only has a crowd on certain nights).[/QUOTE]Apart from the very worth recommendations made here I would also include high end restaurants. I have got lucky at Loewy's at Kuningan and Union at Plaza Senayan. The rules remian the same.

1. Dress well, wear a good perfume. The weather in Jakarta sucks but wear a jacket. It really makes an impression.

2. Be polite, make eye contact, smile a lot. Don't be shy.

3. Get a drink and hang loose. Don't get a beer, but get a bottle of wine instead. Easier to call someone over and share.

Good luck!

[QUOTE=Menteng;1780019]A friend of mine thinks he's got enough to try his luck with them. I suggested Red Square, X2 and Vertigo. Anymore places?[/QUOTE]I say the following absolutely without trying to brag but I run in these circles and I hope your friend does not have too high hopes. My steady GF can be considered one of those girls hence I speak from experience, although my experience is with the Chinese-Indonesians.

The seriously wealthy, Hi-so girls will not go out clubbing by themselves and will always be in a group, 50/50 male / female with everyone partnered up, although at times there are slightly more male attendees. Currently the most popular places are Ego (the VIP room of X2), Emperica in SCBD, Colosseum and indeed as mentioned by Smoothy Dragonfly, Skye and Cloud. Private rooms in Sun City, Golden Crown and Colo might also be booked. Prohibition (not the restaurant but the "speakeasy" bar round the back which you enter through a toilet), Cork&Screw and a few other bars around are at times quite popular too. The groups will nearly always have at least 1 sofa and multiple bottles of liquor, vodka for the ladies and whiskey / cognac for the men. You will not find girls like this standing at the bar with a few friends. The entire group comes together and leaves together; at all times. They will never allow any girls to leave with someone she has just met. Better yet, most of the girls will not even talk to a guy when you don't have any mutual friends! (And I don't mean Facebook friends, you must be physically introduced). To make things even more interesting, the majority of these girls are educated abroad, quite religious, are actually virgins and would never give it up before marriage.

Remember that the guys these girls are usually hanging out with come from extremely wealthy backgrounds, an average night out can easily reach 60/70 million and they won't even batter an eyelid. They'll get in their Ferrari's or Lamborghini's and drive home to repeat it all tomorrow. In these circles women never pay, anything. One guy pays the bill first and a few days later gets split amongst all men attending. You are however expected to mention to the one who is paying to "deal you in". If you don't you are considered a cheapskate. For a good night out I am usually 10 to 15 million out of pocket. Although the way these guys work is that it pays itself back in the business they all give each other.

Be mid 30's max, have a decent job and actually live IN Jakarta, own a decent car, live in a house or a very proper apartment. The girls look a gentleman who is highly intelligent. Don't be a show-off with material things as unless you are a USD millionaire in your own right you will always lose from your competition but definitely do not be cheap. The absolute best way you can meet these girls are through the right work colleagues or business partners, look for highly educated and youngish Chinese guys in senior positions.

Best of luck to your buddy and everyone else who is going to give it a shot but don't take the challenge lightly.

Tuesday night. I know many of you think it's too $$, but for me, the quality of establishment and service make it perfectly worthwhile. Spent time at the spa / hotel with a lithe Indonesian beauty who apparently had only been working for a few days -- all action was covered, which is fine with me, with all manners of positions, plus a nice massage afterward. Then going down to 4 Play club to relax with a drink and watch the dancing girls. Including the spa / hotel session, drinks for both of us, and then drinks at 4 Play I think I walked out spending about 3 mil IDR. Not a cheap evening, but top quality.

One thing though: at 4 Play, I had heard of girls coming up aggressively for "drinks" and then pushing private dances hard. I was actually left in total peace the whole time there -- I would even have liked a little someone to come up to me! Is it different on different nights? Or have things moved there to a system where you have to request private dances, etc?

[QUOTE=HihiSter;1780129]I say the following absolutely without trying to brag but I run in these circles and I hope your friend does not have too high hopes. My steady GF can be considered one of those girls hence I speak from experience, although my experience is with the Chinese-Indonesians.

The seriously wealthy, Hi-so girls will not go out clubbing by themselves and will always be in a group, 50/50 male / female with everyone partnered up, although at times there are slightly more male attendees. Currently the most popular places are Ego (the VIP room of X2), Emperica in SCBD, Colosseum and indeed as mentioned by Smoothy Dragonfly, Skye and Cloud. Private rooms in Sun City, Golden Crown and Colo might also be booked. Prohibition (not the restaurant but the "speakeasy" bar round the back which you enter through a toilet), Cork&Screw and a few other bars around are at times quite popular too. The groups will nearly always have at least 1 sofa and multiple bottles of liquor, vodka for the ladies and whiskey / cognac for the men. You will not find girls like this standing at the bar with a few friends. The entire group comes together and leaves together; at all times. They will never allow any girls to leave with someone she has just met. Better yet, most of the girls will not even talk to a guy when you don't have any mutual friends! (And I don't mean Facebook friends, you must be physically introduced). To make things even more interesting, the majority of these girls are educated abroad, quite religious, are actually virgins and would never give it up before marriage.

Remember that the guys these girls are usually hanging out with come from extremely wealthy backgrounds, an average night out can easily reach 60/70 million and they won't even batter an eyelid. They'll get in their Ferrari's or Lamborghini's and drive home to repeat it all tomorrow. In these circles women never pay, anything. One guy pays the bill first and a few days later gets split amongst all men attending. You are however expected to mention to the one who is paying to "deal you in". If you don't you are considered a cheapskate. For a good night out I am usually 10 to 15 million out of pocket. Although the way these guys work is that it pays itself back in the business they all give each other.

Be mid 30's max, have a decent job and actually live IN Jakarta, own a decent car, live in a house or a very proper apartment. The girls look a gentleman who is highly intelligent. Don't be a show-off with material things as unless you are a USD millionaire in your own right you will always lose from your competition but definitely do not be cheap. The absolute best way you can meet these girls are through the right work colleagues or business partners, look for highly educated and youngish Chinese guys in senior positions.

Best of luck to your buddy and everyone else who is going to give it a shot but don't take the challenge lightly.[/QUOTE]Great post, it's nice to know how the other half (1% perhaps) live.

I think I'll stick to my hard-up students hanging out in Ambassador Mall, it works out a lot cheaper and at the end of the day, you are just getting the same damn thing.

Short post due to getting back at 3: OO am last night. Jakarta is one of the last cities I know of in Asia that allow girls to dance fully nude. If you gents know of other Asian cities, feel free to provide feed back. I went to 3 different fully nude clubs last night. Most clubs start with nude dancers between 9 pm to midnight. For details and which clubs go full nude, check out "Jakarta 100 Bars" website, which has excellent info.

I had fun at Tease Strip Club and also at Classic. At a Classic, full nude starts around 10:30 pm or 11:00 pm, the time will change depending on how long the live band plays.

Nice way to recharge my sexual power by seeing 8 fully nude Indo young cute girls dancing in the stage. And, for shots, they will provide lap dance and you can touch, not like in the U.S. Also, they are available for sex. Nice way to fully see the body before u select your girl. If I get a lap dance, I always take her to the back of the club where it is dark so you have more freedom to touch. Also, be clear about the cost of shots and how many for lap dances. This will depend on the club. Depending 8n the girl and where u are at in the club, gently touching her p_ssy is allowed and touching her ass and tits. At least I have been able to do this. Again, it depends on the girl, club, and how many shots u are buying. I will force myself to hit the weight room and pool this morning so I can be ready for another night of Indo p_ssy!

Thanks for the responses.

HHster, now you make me wonder where he has to look for the non-Chinese ones.

[QUOTE=Undercoverh;1780467]Short post due to getting back at 3: OO am last night. Jakarta is one of the last cities I know of in Asia that allow girls to dance fully nude. If you gents know of other Asian cities, feel free to provide feed back. I went to 3 different fully nude clubs last night. Most clubs start with nude dancers between 9 pm to midnight. For details and which clubs go full nude, check out "Jakarta 100 Bars" website, which has excellent info.

I had fun at Tease Strip Club and also at Classic. At a Classic, full nude starts around 10:30 pm or 11:00 pm, the time will change depending on how long the live band plays.

Nice way to recharge my sexual power by seeing 8 fully nude Indo young cute girls dancing in the stage. And, for shots, they will provide lap dance and you can touch, not like in the U.S. Also, they are available for sex. Nice way to fully see the body before u select your girl. If I get a lap dance, I always take her to the back of the club where it is dark so you have more freedom to touch. Also, be clear about the cost of shots and how many for lap dances. This will depend on the club. Depending 8n the girl and where u are at in the club, gently touching her p_ssy is allowed and touching her ass and tits. At least I have been able to do this. Again, it depends on the girl, club, and how many shots u are buying. I will force myself to hit the weight room and pool this morning so I can be ready for another night of Indo p_ssy![/QUOTE]Don't you live in Bangkok? Your post makes it sound like finding naked girls dancing in Asia is a new experience. They absolutely have that in Bangkok. Go to Soi Cowboy. I was just there recently and went to Long Gun (Lucky Star) and Rawhide bars. Both have completely naked girls dancing. And they don't just dance, they put on excellent shows naked as well! If you buy them one drink every half hour or hour or so (not a shot every minute like you have to do in Classic), you can have them sit on your lap naked and feel them up to your heart's content. They will bounce up and down naked on your boner while you play with their tits and fondle their body and watch the naked girls show. It's good fun. And of course you can bar fine the girl and take her back to your hotel or a short time room for sex if you like.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1780599]Don't you live in Bangkok? Your post makes it sound like finding naked girls dancing in Asia is a new experience. They absolutely have that in Bangkok. Go to Soi Cowboy. I was just there recently and went to Long Gun (Lucky Star) and Rawhide bars. Both have completely naked girls dancing. And they don't just dance, they put on excellent shows naked as well! If you buy them one drink every half hour or hour or so (not a shot every minute like you have to do in Classic), you can have them sit on your lap naked and feel them up to your heart's content. They will bounce up and down naked on your boner while you play with their tits and fondle their body and watch the naked girls show. It's good fun. And of course you can bar fine the girl and take her back to your hotel or a short time room for sex if you like.[/QUOTE]To add to the list. Angelwitch in Nana and Suzie wong or Baccara in Soi cowboy also have nude shows. And girls can be bfined as well for ST or LT. So Jakarta is definitely not the only city.

[QUOTE=Tiradentes;1779646]1. Rio to Sao Paolo (Brazil) is what Pattaya is to Bangkok in terms of quality and quantity.

2. Frankfurt is so depressing. RLD is full of empty rooms in those 5-6 floors buildings around the station.

The FKK's are populated by mechanical under performer Romanian chicks. Plus the chicks from all nationalities act like used car salesmen (e. g: Finger in the arse?. That's 50 E extra).

I would erase Europe all together from my mongering map. There are plenty of untapped destinations in SE Asia that need to be discovered. A forum like this is helpful.[/QUOTE]I think you are too harsh on Europe. I go to the FKKs in Germany, every year for my once-a-year Caucasian treat. I always had a good time there. I was there last in August, met 3 Italians, 2 Romanians, and 2 Russians.

I fell in love with one of the Italians, the Romanians provided decent service, and the Russian girls were ripoff. Overall, I had a great time there, as usual.

IMO, Rio is no longer the Pattaya of South America. The action now is in San Paulo, or even Colombia, my new favorite playground in South America.

[QUOTE=IllusionHeart;1780680]To add to the list. Angelwitch in Nana and Suzie wong or Baccara in Soi cowboy also have nude shows. And girls can be bfined as well for ST or LT. So Jakarta is definitely not the only city.[/QUOTE]You are both correct about these clubs in BK. To clarify or better state my comments in my previous post, I do not know of any Asian country that has as many fully nude clubs as Jakarta. I have been to at least 10 in Jakarta, and I understand there are more, that I have yet to visit.

[QUOTE=HihiSter;1780129]I say the following absolutely without trying to brag but I run in these circles and I hope your friend does not have too high hopes.

Best of luck to your buddy and everyone else who is going to give it a shot but don't take the challenge lightly.[/QUOTE]Fantastic post, highly insightful and informative as well.

[QUOTE=Undercoverh;1780692]You are both correct about these clubs in BK. To clarify or better state my comments in my previous post, I do not know of any Asian country that has as many fully nude clubs as Jakarta. I have been to at least 10 in Jakarta, and I understand there are more, that I have yet to visit.[/QUOTE]Yes, there are more than 10 places that have nude dancing. Most of them are smaller places and only have about 4 to 6 dancers. In Jakarta though, the nude dancers are often only dancing in each club for about a half hour, then they disappear to another club to dance naked there as well. The nude dancers are not always available to take upstairs. As a matter of fact, it's the exception to have that option rather than the norm (depending on the club). And if you are allowed to take them, they are more expensive than the other girls.

In Bangkok, the nude dancers can be taken to your hotel and shagged pretty much without exception, it's those ridiculous Coyote girls in the tight shorts who cannot. And the places in Bangkok will have over 30 nude dancers in each place.

Malioboro has full time hired dancers, but they do not dance completely naked anymore as far as I am aware (although I haven't been there in months, and it goes in cycles, sometimes they are naked sometimes they are not. Sometimes they are only topless. Sometimes they dance in bikinis. Sometimes they dance fully clothed or there are no dancers at all, depending on how strict the police are at that time.) The naked dancers at Hotel Classic only dance at certain times, and if it's a Friday or Saturday night, it's so damn crowded in there, I can't even see them or get near them. I avoid Classic (and all of the other places with a small cover charge that have nude dancers) on weekend nights. I remember when Golden Crown first starting having topless dancers, I thought that was a great idea. Until I went there and there were thousands of locals packed into the room to watch 4 topless dancers who barely even moved their bodies to the music.

I like to look at the nude dancers in Jakarta. But for one on one fun with naked girls, I think Bangkok is far superior. Philippines has plenty of action as well. I even like the down market Beijing, China karaoke places because the girls will get naked in the rooms there, dancing, singing dirty songs and playing naughty games in the room, then you can take them home after the karaoke if you want. Bengkel Cafe in Jakarta used to have naked dancer karaoke girls as well, but I think that is no more. Those Bengkel Cafe girls wanted to spend most of the time in the karaoke room trying to give nude lap dances for 50 k per song anyway (like at Malio or Classic), or a shag in the toilet for extra money. They weren't really interested in going home with the clients. Regardless, it is always nice to look at naked girls even if you can't take them home to your place. Even in the USA strip clubs it's nice. If you consider Guam to be an Asian country, it has lots of nude strip clubs due to US military being there.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1781128]Yes, there are more than 10 places that have nude dancing. Most of them are smaller places and only have about 4 to 6 dancers. In Jakarta though, the nude dancers are often only dancing in each club for about a half hour, then they disappear to another club to dance naked there as well. The nude dancers are not always available to take upstairs. As a matter of fact, it's the exception to have that option rather than the norm (depending on the club). And if you are allowed to take them, they are more expensive than the other girls.

In Bangkok, the nude dancers can be taken to your hotel and shagged pretty much without exception, it's those ridiculous Coyote girls in the tight shorts who cannot. And the places in Bangkok will have over 30 nude dancers in each place.

Malioboro has full time hired dancers, but they do not dance completely naked anymore as far as I am aware (although I haven't been there in months, and it goes in cycles, sometimes they are naked sometimes they are not. Sometimes they are only topless. Sometimes they dance in bikinis. Sometimes they dance fully clothed or there are no dancers at all, depending on how strict the police are at that time.) The naked dancers at Hotel Classic only dance at certain times, and if it's a Friday or Saturday night, it's so damn crowded in there, I can't even see them or get near them. I avoid Classic (and all of the other places with a small cover charge that have nude dancers) on weekend nights. I remember when Golden Crown first starting having topless dancers, I thought that was a great idea. Until I went there and there were thousands of locals packed into the room to watch 4 topless dancers who barely even moved their bodies to the music.

I like to look at the nude dancers in Jakarta. But for one on one fun with naked girls, I think Bangkok is far superior. Philippines has plenty of action as well. I even like the down market Beijing, China karaoke places because the girls will get naked in the rooms there, dancing, singing dirty songs and playing naughty games in the room, then you can take them home after the karaoke if you want. Bengkel Cafe in Jakarta used to have naked dancer karaoke girls as well, but I think that is no more. Those Bengkel Cafe girls wanted to spend most of the time in the karaoke room trying to give nude lap dances for 50 k per song anyway (like at Malio or Classic), or a shag in the toilet for extra money. They weren't really interested in going home with the clients. Regardless, it is always nice to look at naked girls even if you can't take them home to your place. Even in the USA strip clubs it's nice. If you consider Guam to be an Asian country, it has lots of nude strip clubs due to US military being there.[/QUOTE]I generally agree with your comments. However, for me, I have been having fun in Jakarta's strip clubs. Others may find Bk overall experience more enjoyable (e. G. , more sex for sell everywhere in Bk compared to Jakarta). As for Guam, I spent a short time there during my Marine Corps days when I was a young man. Guam is like the USA, as far as I am concerned. Bars and clubs, but prices are high and FS is not out in the open like it is in BK. In fact, my brothers-in-arms would head over to the Philippines for R&R at Subic Bay.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1781128]Malioboro has full time hired dancers, but they do not dance completely naked anymore as far as I am aware (although I haven't been there in months, and it goes in cycles, sometimes they are naked sometimes they are not. Sometimes they are only topless. Sometimes they dance in bikinis. Sometimes they dance fully clothed or there are no dancers at all, depending on how strict the police are at that time.) [/QUOTE]Malio club (behind Malioboro) has never stopped having nude dancers. Its an old fav of mine for overseas visitors and I have never once been there when there hasn't been nude dancers. Just remember I am talking Malio not Maliboro. You got to walk down the Maliboro driveway, past the $hit tanker that seems to be permanently parked there and into a door on the right.

My two cents.

[QUOTE=Undercoverh;1781773]my brothers-in-arms would head over to the Philippines for R&R at Subic Bay.[/QUOTE]Smart move. The Philippines are an excellent place for that kind of entertainment.

[QUOTE=MasBule;1781777]Malio club (behind Malioboro) has never stopped having nude dancers. Its an old fav of mine for overseas visitors and I have never once been there when there hasn't been nude dancers. Just remember I am talking Malio not Maliboro. You got to walk down the Maliboro driveway, past the $hit tanker that seems to be permanently parked there and into a door on the right.

My two cents.[/QUOTE]I've honestly never tried that place. I always enjoy myself in Malioboro so much that I have never made it back there. I'll have to give it a try sometime. Not for the nude dancers because that's not my highest priority. After experiencing strip clubs in the USA, nude dancers in Asia are a big let down. (Nude dancers are the only advantage the USA has over Asia.) But I'd like to check out that Malio Club just to see what it's like. Years ago someone told me it was similar to the club at Medika. That place at Medika is a waste of time (too dark to see anything), but if there are nude dancers, Malio club can't be as dark as Medika. I couldn't see one foot in front of my face in Medika.

[QUOTE=MasBule;1781777]Malio club (behind Malioboro) has never stopped having nude dancers. Its an old fav of mine for overseas visitors and I have never once been there when there hasn't been nude dancers. Just remember I am talking Malio not Maliboro. You got to walk down the Maliboro driveway, past the $hit tanker that seems to be permanently parked there and into a door on the right.

My two cents.[/QUOTE]Your two cents has is much more valuable. Malio is my fav club in Jakarta. Many guys go to Malioboro and not realize there is a different club full of naked young Indo women called Malio. These girls have sexy nice big ass and tits. I get an hard on just looking at them. I will be going tomorrow late night. The times I have been there, always nude.

Sunday is supposed to be ladies night at BATS, but the scene was average. About 1:1 punter: hooker ratio. The Carlsberg sales girls there are pretty and gorgeous. They walk around in black knee length dresses. It was a treat to watch them.

After hanging around for a couple of hours, moved on to CJ's at Mulia. Much better! The crowd was thin but the hookers outnumbered the punters many times over. Had my eye on a sweet next door neighbor type girl who would not return my eye contact (or anyone else's). Made small talk with 3-4 girls who approached me and wanted to go back with me. They were not my type but I did not want to return empty handed on my last night. Towards closing time I hooked up with this tall Toyota sales girl Sara with a latina butt. Negotiated 1. 5 M for "however long you want me to stay". Drove off in her brand new Toyota. She spoke about big assed Moroccan girls who frequent De Leila. This was news to me and I said I wanted to have a look. But first lets got to Blok M for drinks she said. Went to Dees place, had a couple of drinks. Were treated like a VIP by the staff there (I suspect this girl graduated from Blok M). It being a Monday night the talent was exceptionally good, and punters none. Returned to my hotel Harris FX at around 4 am. Lots of shouty Arabs and fat Indo hookers in the basement parking. Looks like FX security has to bear the brunt of De Leila moving here. Got the parking ticket validated at reception and went out the front to De Leila. Unfortunately it was closing time. So we back tracked and ended up in bed doing the usual horizontal olypmics. She was worth the money spent in terms of satisfaction returned. Repeated once again at 11 am, booted her out and packed to be ready in time for check-out.

[QUOTE=MasBule;1781777]Malio club (behind Malioboro) has never stopped having nude dancers. Its an old fav of mine for overseas visitors and I have never once been there when there hasn't been nude dancers. Just remember I am talking Malio not Maliboro. You got to walk down the Maliboro driveway, past the $hit tanker that seems to be permanently parked there and into a door on the right.

My two cents.[/QUOTE]MasBule, Have you ever had any luck with a girl from Malio club indoor or outside? I really liked the girls there and do plan to return in near future. Any tips or suggestions would be appreciated.

[QUOTE=Menteng;1780019]A friend of mine thinks he's got enough to try his luck with them. I suggested Red Square, X2 and Vertigo. Anymore places?[/QUOTE]To the mouth.

Are you for real or just out dated next time we meet I will put my foot in your yak mouth then you and old man ko will know I am real.

Fast eddie 48.

Was in Jakarta last week and stayed at the Shang. From my prior trips I have never been that impressed with BATS, so decided to try my luck with wechat. I was lucky on a prior trip where a guy sent me a girl who had an amazing command of English (yep was an English teacher), but silly me forgot to bring her number. So fired up wechat and within minutes had 10-20 hellos from people asking whether I wanted a massage. I usually say that I'm looking to hang out with someone, then they respond with massage plus sex for 800. For those who don't like classic or travel, while the girl neve looks like the picture sent, you do get a full 2 hours for 800 so it's not that bad of a deal if you get a good draw. So in my case I tried two places (usually a papa is chatting with you) and I had one chubby girl who was wild and BBBJ the moment she entered my room and one shy who needed to warm up but then did whatever I asked. Again, the benefit of the brothels is that you see what you get, but service is completely unknown. I've found the outcall massage scene to be much better service but the girl isn't that pretty. Most places I have found who say no ++ do provide it, you just have to make them go for the first move. Since I booked one for LT for the hell of it, asked about the system. In her case, papa calls up some girls he knows once he gets a ping. The interesting thing is that it's like a network, my girl in her free time (while I was recovering), would get some more pings, she responds as if she will go but then calling a friend to give the 'massage'. She had a album full of normal to cute looking girls that she uses to get the booking, but of course none of the girls actually exists in the stable or group of friends. So we chatted about the business and how much of the cut she gets, etc. All very interesting for a mere 1. 5 for a full night too. The shy one I have her direct contact so will likely go for again when I am back, but I find this scene is much better in terms of value for money vs the brothels. Ymmv.

[QUOTE=IllusionHeart;1782012]MasBule, Have you ever had any luck with a girl from Malio club indoor or outside? I really liked the girls there and do plan to return in near future. Any tips or suggestions would be appreciated.[/QUOTE]Mate I haven't taken any outside, and haven't tried to be honest. But a handsome young buddy of mine got a phone number off one of the lap dancer girls. But that was a case of she REALLY liked him, he didn't even ask for it.

It seemed she wasn't on any contract to the club nor locked-up afterwork hours, and she had daytimes free.

Got to remember these are the hottest nude dancers in the city. So they might be hard to take home or damn expensive.

Someone told me the girls from FOREPLAY are something like 2 m for takeaway.

Hi fellow mongers,

I will be in Jakarta for 2 weeks in November and RTFF the last 20 pages. I am just wondering if few senior members have time to go mongering with me during my stay in Jakarta.

Last year, I went to Jakarta in October and only went to Velvet Spa, Famous Spa and Montecarlo Spa that are all in West Jakarta.

I am looking forward to try Malioboro Club, Emporium Spa and any other good spa around Jakarta.

I am originally from Jakarta but been living in the US for the past 12 years.

Cheers

[QUOTE=MasBule;1782248]Mate I haven't taken any outside, and haven't tried to be honest. But a handsome young buddy of mine got a phone number off one of the lap dancer girls. But that was a case of she REALLY liked him, he didn't even ask for it.

It seemed she wasn't on any contract to the club nor locked-up afterwork hours, and she had daytimes free.

Got to remember these are the hottest nude dancers in the city. So they might be hard to take home or damn expensive.

Someone told me the girls from FOREPLAY are something like 2 m for takeaway.[/QUOTE]Indeed these are some of the hottest girls I have seen in Jakarta hence the keen interest. I don't mind being expensive upto a certain extent like 5 mn but anything above this is not worth it. From what I have been reading is that it is simply too hard or the girls just don't want to do it for various reasons (Ample salary, need only extra money for univ education, saving virginity for marriage, etc).

Never heard or read about Foreplay. Do share some more details.

[QUOTE=IllusionHeart;1782728]
Never heard or read about Foreplay. Do share some more details.[/QUOTE]Yes it doesn't get much airplay on this forum. Its actually called 4 Play and is on the entry level at Alexis. Like a Malio club but the stage isn't as high up. Seems more Chinese there than Malio and definitely lots of groups of rich friends drinking bottles. Its famous for its silhouette dancers behind the bar, where 2 girls are nude and pretending to have sex.

Its a very very nice intro to the 7th floor, when your mood changes.

[QUOTE=MasBule;1783089]Yes it doesn't get much airplay on this forum. Its actually called 4 Play and is on the entry level at Alexis. Like a Malio club but the stage isn't as high up. Seems more Chinese there than Malio and definitely lots of groups of rich friends drinking bottles. Its famous for its silhouette dancers behind the bar, where 2 girls are nude and pretending to have sex.

Its a very very nice intro to the 7th floor, when your mood changes.[/QUOTE]I remember now. As my visits to Alexis were before 7 pm the club was closed. I think it actually starts getting crowd 9 pm onwards but that would be the peak time and less choice of girls for me on the 7th floor. 555.

However if the timing matches I sure will peek in on my next visit.

Hi guys,

First time visit to Jakarta this Oct 21. Will be staying in Fairmont Hotel.

Can anyone suggest good spas, etc etc. Any good action nearby?

Cheers.

Was it really only a week ago I wrote this?

[QUOTE=Hilo77;1779016]

I would stick to Jakarta, it's your safest bet, for now, although I wouldn't be so confident of saying that in five or ten years' time.[/QUOTE]Thinking that Jakarta would remain a fun town for at least another five years appears now to be wildly optimistic. First they come for your beer, then they come for your nightclubs. Then what will be left?

[URL]http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2015/10/02/nightclubs-will-close-midnight-city-official.html[/URL]

Enjoy it while you can gentlemen. The straws in the wind are now a veritable hurricane.

[QUOTE=Hilo77;1783610]Was it really only a week ago I wrote this?

Thinking that Jakarta would remain a fun town for at least another five years appears now to be wildly optimistic. First they come for your beer, then they come for your nightclubs. Then what will be left?

[URL]http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2015/10/02/nightclubs-will-close-midnight-city-official.html[/URL]

Enjoy it while you can gentlemen. The straws in the wind are now a veritable hurricane.[/QUOTE]Maybe there's a bright side to it: action will start earlier. Good for old people like me (grin).

Requesting mongers at Jakarta to help me with my stay at Mercure Sabang from day after tomorrow. How to get a good bang there?

[QUOTE=AmitGautam;1783838]Requesting mongers at Jakarta to help me with my stay at Mercure Sabang from day after tomorrow. How to get a good bang there?[/QUOTE]Mercure Sabang is in Thamrin area. You could either go to Hayam Wuruk area and find the massage parlours. Or you could go to Hotel Classic. If you are game for some high priced rendezvous, you could go to Malioboro. Or you could venture to Hotel Melawai in Blok M. Go to the 6th floor, Maribaya Bar. In all these places, it would be in house humping. If you want to take a girl to your room, then, you could go to Hotel Aryaduta, which is just about a kilometer away. Go down to Tavern bar in the basement and you could find free lancers there. You could also go to BATS at Hotel Shangrila or CJ's at Hotel Mulia. You could even try Tigah Puluh at LE Meridien, though the number and of girls would be very less and also the quality is deteriorated. Sometimes, you could be lucky. In all these places, you need to ensure that you wear shoes and pants. Entry without shoes or / and with shorts will not be allowed. You could also go to Hotel Menteng 2. It's called Menteng dua. They have a bar called Tigah Kudah. Though, it caters mostly to Arab guys, you will find some stunners there. The hotel has a facility to hire short time rooms for doing the deed. You could also walk down to De Leila, which has now shifted to FX, which is the annexe of Plaza Indonesia. Though DL caters to Arab clientele, you could find girls there, whom you could take to your room.

I hope to travel to India and to New Delhi soon. Looking forward to your help to find my way to mongering places. Hope you will be able to give some leads.

Have fun Amit.

Cheers.

[QUOTE=JohnAldrich;1783858]You could also walk down to De Leila, which has now shifted to FX, which is the annexe of Plaza Indonesia. [/QUOTE]It's not annexed to PI. It's a 7 KM drive away (a. K. a forever in Jakarta traffic).

[QUOTE=JohnAldrich;1783858] You could also go to Hotel Menteng 2. It's called Menteng dua. They have a bar called Tigah Kudah. Though, it caters mostly to Arab guys, you will find some stunners there. The hotel has a facility to hire short time rooms for doing the deed. You could also walk down to De Leila, which has now shifted to FX, which is the annexe of Plaza Indonesia. Though DL caters to Arab clientele, you could find girls there, whom you could take to your room.
Cheers.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=KiJang;1783928]It's not annexed to PI. It's a 7 KM drive away (a. K. a forever in Jakarta traffic).[/QUOTE]That would be Tiga Kuda which means three horses; some of the local girls call it Three Horse (note the singular). FX is its own mall and not EX which is attached to PI. FX is in the Senayan area very close to Century Park Hotel and Arcadia Senayan (where Red Square used to be). It's mainly a mall of restaurants and cafes, which I find useful as a meeting place for dates.

While it is a few kilometers away from PI, I doubt it's 7 km. Besides that distance is irrelevant during club times as the traffic is much lighter late at night, so I wouldn't worry too much about it. You'll be affected only if you're meeting people during the daytime and evening.

MD II.

[QUOTE=KiJang;1783928]It's not annexed to PI. It's a 7 KM drive away (a. K. a forever in Jakarta traffic).[/QUOTE]Oops. I got mixed up. Thanks for correcting.

[QUOTE=JohnAldrich;1784198]Oops. I got mixed up. Thanks for correcting.[/QUOTE]You are partly correct in that Fx, although not exactly an annexe of PI, is owned by the owner of the PI.

I was in Indonesia for a couple of weeks on a dive trip--spent a few of those days in Jakarta. The last night in Jakarta was Wednesday night. Relying on Natty Bumpo's awesome reports, decided to check out ladies night at CJ's bar at the Mulia hotel.

I personally have never seen anything of this magnitude. Arrived around 10:00 PM. The place was absolutely packed with Freelancers--and not that many punters. The ratio must have been at 5 or 6 to one. Most of the girls are standing in the aisles.

There are some booths in the back that were mostly empty when I arrived. They had a nice band with a good female lead singer. Although there were quite a few older and fatter chicks that I would not fuck if they paid me, the overall quality was very good.

I wandered around looking for that tell tale smile and eye contact from a cute young thang--after a couple of false starts --I got a good vibe from a very attractive girl from Bandung. She was there with her friend--both of whom had small kids.

While their English was not that great (and I know some very basic Bahasa) --we had no problem communicating. I bought them both a couple of drinks--lots of playful kissing--ass squeezing--and crotch grabbing.

After more than an hour, we got down to the financial details-- they wanted me to take both of them and I'm sure I could have separated the one I oreferrred for a one on one--but we were having such a good time as a threesome--I decided to take on both of them.

The problem was that they both wanted 2 million rupiah. 4 million (just about $280 US) is rather steep for a night out in Jakarta--but it was after midnight--my last night in town--and I just didn't want to ruin the vibe and maybe start lover.

So I went for the 2 million each-back to the hotel-for an absolutely great night of fucking and sucking. Both of these girls were really horny-only negative was that one still had some belly fat from the baby--but attitude made up the difference.

I am sure that those willing to spend more time and hang until later in the evening--can do better than 2 million--but I just can't hang until 3 AM and then go back to the room for any serious fucking.

Anyone in Jakarta on Wednesday night should absolutely go to CJ's.

I was kind of glad to get out of Jakarta--the air was the worst--fires in Indonesia--has resulted in horrible smoke and smog in the city.

[QUOTE=PStevens999;1784721]
So I went for the 2 million each-back to the hotel-for an absolutely great night of fucking and sucking. Both of these girls were really horny-only negative was that one still had some belly fat from the baby--but attitude made up the difference.[/QUOTE]2 million is what the top stunners get. You likely overpaid, but as long as the experience was good, that's all that matters. One thing about overpaying the girls is that they will normally be hornier. They were likely so excited about getting 2 million rupiah each, they were probably wet before they even left the bar.

There was a chick in CJs the last time I went who was unbelievably stunning. It's rare I ever see a girl that hot in there. She was tall and looked to perhaps be Colombian. She was busy with another guy that night, but I'd love to get a shot with her. She was seated across from me and I watched her negotiate with the guy that night. I'm guessing she was asking for even more than 2 million given the reaction of the guy. But he went for it. I was hoping he would walk away, but he didn't...

I'm glad that fellow had a good time at CJs, but succumbing to their outrageous prices just spoils the market and justifies their high asking prices in their minds.

"If one guy paid me 2 Juta, that's what I am worth and I shouldn't accept less".

For me, I try do the negotiation earlier in the interaction before feelings of attachment are cemented. If they are out to lunch with their prices, I move on. Sometimes they counter, sometimes they let you go away. Either way, I don't mess around.

I've only seen 2-3 gals ever at CJs in 5 visits I think are worth 2 Juta. Most would top out at 1. 5 Juta, and many I get for 1 Juta and even 700 k close to closing time. The prices should also be lower on Weds ladies night as they don't need to pay entry fees to go in.

[QUOTE=Lost99;1784899]
I've only seen 2-3 gals ever at CJs in 5 visits I think are worth 2 Juta. Most would top out at 1. 5 Juta, and many I get for 1 Juta and even 700 k close to closing time. The prices should also be lower on Weds ladies night as they don't need to pay entry fees to go in.[/QUOTE]I agree with that. And prices on ladies night are definitely lower than any other night. The competition that night is fierce. But some of the stunners refuse to go to CJs on ladies night because they don't want to drop their price. That tall stunner I saw the last time I was there was not there on ladies night.

Does anybody know where to buy Hard liquor in Jakarta?
As you may have heard, sale of Alcohol banned in all mini-mart, like 7-11 and Indomaret

Preferably in North? Any idea as to average cost? Whisky, Vodka, Tequila all fine.

I'm planning on hosting a party and bringing females, want to budget accordingly.

Also heard there was alcohol tax hike in July, so maybe going to bars / clubs getting pricey to drink. I may actually save money this way. Ha ha ha.

[QUOTE=Lost99;1785003]Does anybody know where to buy Hard liquor in Jakarta? [/QUOTE]
I'll send you a PM, got some good connections - but due to LE watching this forum best not publish it.

[QUOTE=RatuSir;1783595]Hi guys,
Will be staying in Fairmont Hotel.
Any good action nearby?
[/QUOTE]Your comment 'nearby' leads me to state;.

- CJ's bar in the Mulia is close for WG's.

- Not alot of spas exactly at Senayan. Best bet would be the ruko Grand Wijaya for fortune / delta / myplace / cherry / etc etc etc. Just past BlokM, RTFF for more info.

Also, BlokM is closeby. But do your RTFF on that, as its an acquired taste.

I'd recommend negotiating price with girls at CJ's before you tell them where your staying, once they know your in the one of the most expensive hotels in town. You might be up for a premium.

I would also ask ANYONE requesting info from forum members give some info about themselves. This helps narrow it down a bit. Ie. Whats your age range, what's your budget, got any kinks, do you like your FJoints nasty and dirty, do you want an expat bar with WG's, want a seedy spa with curtains for doors. Or top shelf with import girls from Uzbekistan. Etc etc.

[QUOTE=Lost99;1785003]Does anybody know where to buy Hard liquor in Jakarta?
As you may have heard, sale of Alcohol banned in all mini-mart, like 7-11 and Indomaret

Preferably in North? Any idea as to average cost? Whisky, Vodka, Tequila all fine.

I'm planning on hosting a party and bringing females, want to budget accordingly.

Also heard there was alcohol tax hike in July, so maybe going to bars / clubs getting pricey to drink. I may actually save money this way. Ha ha ha.[/QUOTE]Just log into Jakarta comedy club website. They also have a service, wherein they sell hard liquor and will also give door delivery. The contact numbers and the various brands available are in the website including the contact details. In case it's been removed recently on account and of a program which they are planning shortly, just contact them on the contact number given. I have found their prices to be lower than what is available in the various liquor stores. Getting door delivery will save you on transport cost, apart from being assured of original liquor. I have recently found quite a few instances of having got fake liquor, especially when I bought black label, jack Daniel and Bacardi light. But JCC sells authentic liquor.

[QUOTE=Lost99;1785003]Does anybody know where to buy Hard liquor in Jakarta?
As you may have heard, sale of Alcohol banned in all mini-mart, like 7-11 and Indomaret
Preferably in North? Any idea as to average cost? Whisky, Vodka, Tequila all fine.

I[/QUOTE]FYI. Most of the large supermarkets in the modern malls have spirits.

Just last night I was wondering around PI, and stumbled upon the alcohol section in the foodhall.

The Gin's, Vodkas and Tequilas were all in the 800 k range.

[QUOTE=Lost99;1785003]Does anybody know where to buy Hard liquor in Jakarta?
As you may have heard, sale of Alcohol banned in all mini-mart, like 7-11 and Indomaret

Preferably in North? Any idea as to average cost? Whisky, Vodka, Tequila all fine.

I'm planning on hosting a party and bringing females, want to budget accordingly.

Also heard there was alcohol tax hike in July, so maybe going to bars / clubs getting pricey to drink. I may actually save money this way. Ha ha ha.[/QUOTE]Assuming it is still there (it was a few months ago), there is a liquor store in the basement of the Intercontinental Hotel that has pretty good prices at least for Jakarta. As you go down the escalator or steps, there is a Japanese restaurant (quite good) to the right, but you need to go left instead and go to the end of the hall at which point you will see the liquor store.

Downside is it is not in North Jakarta, more like central, so you would have to travel a bit.

[QUOTE=Lost99;1785003]Does anybody know where to buy Hard liquor in Jakarta?
.[/QUOTE]
If you are flying in to CGK you can bring plenty wrapped up in your checked luggage.

I get my top ups (gordons gin for my gin pahits) from the Indian retailers in Pasar Baru (which seems north by todays standards) and in walking distance of the over-rated dump called Classic Hotel. There is one place that oddly functions as a pharmacy and liquor store. When I commented to the store manager I had never seen whisky and the morning-after-pill being sold together, he replied "sorry not for you sir, we are regulated, how about whisky and cialis for you".

[QUOTE=UsPete;1786637]If you are flying in to CGK you can bring plenty wrapped up in your checked luggage.m[/QUOTE]I thought the limit was 1 L bottle only? Have you sucessfully smuggled more?

Not sure if I am willing to risk bringing more than that, you risk a fine, duties, or confiscation.

My first time to Jakarta and stayed 5 days / 4 nights at the Grand Mecure Harmoni. I work in Taiwan so it was a 5 5 HR flight. With limited time and not much patience I didn't check out the FL scene at Blok M, CJs / BATS, clubs, ect.

Classic (2nd floor) Day 1.

I arrived around 6:30 pm and 'on cue' a mamasan quickly guided me to a table that was towards the back, in front of the cashier so it was hard to get a good look at all the girls but there seemed to be about 35 girls on the left side of the entrance and only about 5 on the left side. Scanning the bored faces of the girls from afar, I was not disappointed and felt at least 3 that I could see were cute. But within 1 min of sitting down the mamasan had brought over a girl. Typical for Classic from what I read on the forum.

I told her I wanted my drink first and relax since I just got here. The girl was about 6.5 looks, slim, probably under 24, no kids, and her good English might have been a reason she was presented to me. The only issue I had was with her very thick eyebrows. We chatted for less than 5 minutes and out of nowhere the mamasan had a 2nd girl presented who was a 7.5, definitely early 20's and very large boobs. The boobs looked even larger because she was extremely slim. Girl 1 told me she was her best friend and roommate. Coming into this situation, I didn't want a 3 some but looking at them both I was imagining the possibilities. They were very nice, but not overly energetic. The 2nd girl was just too good to pass up so 550 k went from my wallet to the mamasan's hand.

550 k gets you 1.5 HR and 2 shots. The session itself was average and I cannot really complain too much. Girl 2 with the big, natural boobs had a rocking' body despite having a baby. My guess is after 2-3 yrs those boobs and stomach might get destroyed by gravity. However right now was perfection. I had the girls separately so there was not the changing of the condom. Both only did CBJ. Perhaps due to the flight or only getting about 25 mins rest between sessions, I didn't finish the 2nd shot. I probably should have waited at least 40 mins, but I could feel my stomach might have a tough time with the early dinner I had at Chili's. So after I showered a 2nd time and with about 20 mins left in the session I laughingly told them I needed a toilet. (Luckily the rest of the trip my stomach was fine). I came out of the bathroom and it was getting close to 8:30 pm and there were a lot more customers and seemed to have even more girls. The stage had some girls dancing but they were not that attractive so I just left.

550 K (+100 K tip) is a steal for 2 girls. But I wouldn't do a 3 some again. I need a bit more time between shots.

Around 11 pm I thought about going to CJs for WEDs ladies night but was didn't have the energy and also didn't really feel like paying 1-2 million. So sleep won out.

Day 2 12 pm.

Sparadise (massage / spa at Grand Mecure).

After breakfast I hit the gym / weights and the pool. After changing in my room I decided to hit their 5th floor "men's spa" which is on the same floor as the gym / pool, etc. Believe it or not, I've never had a massage + HJ in my life and at 330 K+tax (normal room) I figured 'why not'? (everyday from 11 am-5 pm is happy hour so the price is reduced to 290 K+tax when I went).

The lobby of the 'spa' was clean, dark and empty but looked like a 4 star type place. They lead you to a computer monitor where they have photos of the girls (about 15 but not all are working at the same time). All of the girls seemed to be 22-27 yo and several of them were very cute (keep in mind the photos all have that 'soft, filtered' look to hide flaws and you cannot see their full body). Only 3 girls were available and they were about 6.0-6.5 in looks. I saw on a TV screen that maybe total 6-7 girls were there. One of the cute girls I saw was pre-booked for 1 pm. Damn.

My girl was slim, not bad looking and very friendly. Clothes all off, I got on my stomach and she did the massage for about 45 mins. Her technique was not bad but certainly far from a great massage. After the flip it's right to the HJ. No complaints from me as she did well, although this was my first "professional HJ" so cannot really compare. I showered, tipped her and left happy.

[QUOTE=UsPete;1786637]If you are flying in to CGK you can bring plenty wrapped up in your checked luggage..[/QUOTE]My info is a year old, alas, but I used to bring wine into CGK in checked luggage. The bags are x-rayed or otherwise looked at before they go onto the baggage carrousel, and if something is spotted, the bag gets a chalk mark. (or maybe just random marking, who knows?) The customs guys open bags with chalk marks. So, if you are carrying, keep a napkin from the plane, look carefully at your bag (sometimes the mark is on the zipper) and erase the chalk before you go to the check-out x-ray. TTG is a specialist at packing box wine in checked luggage.

[QUOTE=Lost99;1786867]I thought the limit was 1 L bottle only? Have you sucessfully smuggled more?
.[/QUOTE]Sorry. It's not appropriate to discuss methods in an open ISG forum though I wasn't aware there was a 1 Litre limit I must admit.

Been reading the last 30 pages and have decided that I might stay a couple of days in North Jakarta for the Brothel scene and the rest of my time in South Jakarta with the free lancers. I do not mind if the girls are a bit older in South Jakarta. It's the moves they make in bed that matters. A 'stunner' does not equate to better service though one may get lucky sometimes.

I would like to visit these places before the girls' pussies get filled with ojek drivers' cum! I would appreciate if the posters would help out with 'good' times to visit the various venues. I read that Malioboro starts at about 3. 00 pm.

Would like opening or action times for these venues Malio club, Malioboro, Classic, Travel and other brothels in the area. Plus, it would help if you could also state as to how the girls are available in each joint. Are they in aquariums, paraded, mamsan brings a girl out, just dancing or hanging out in the club. Are the punters allowed to talk with the girls before the 'purchase'? Thank you.

Marliboro.

Indonesians definitely have a sense of humor with places called Illigals and Marliboro. The latter has some large billboards outside the building using the famous Marlboro Man with some Marliboro slogans. Pretty funny.

I decided to go straight to the lounge in my plain clothes and the mamasan had me sit on that 'main level' at a table furthest from the girls. I thought it was so strange but after thinking about it, I believe that she wanted to give me a line-up of her local girls. But I preferred to sit closer so after her explaining the pricing I moved. The place had 5 customers at most at 6:30 pm. The main level had all the foreign girls like PRC, Viet, Eastern Germany and Columbia (all total probably 25 foreign women). The sunken lower level had a ton of local women. I might guess up to 40. The foreigners seemed to be in the mid to late 20's whereas the locals seems to be under 25.

I must admit I'm a bit of a sucker for PRC women and one was eyeing me and was pretty (7. 0). There was a constant parade of the locals coming up from the lower level to do line-ups perhaps in another area. Definitely slightly more attractive than Classic and I found more than a handful that I wouldn't mind taking to a room, but the PRC girl tempted me too much.

Walking to the room and past the desk there, they ask if you have condoms. I actually bought condoms earlier that day but forgot them! Damn. Classic provides Durex condoms and this place wants 35 k for a condom. When you are charging over 2 million I'd expect them to provide a condom, but my mistake.

The girl ended up being very nice and I speak enough Mandarin to hold simple conversation so it was not awkward. But her body was not what I had expected. She had nice firm boobs and a fairly slim legs but her stomach was pretty big. CBJ (kinda surprised) and the sex was fine. She did her massage thing afterwards. Pretty routine. The 'starting' tip amount on the paper is 200 K and up to 1 million.

Probably would not go back as the vibe there was not to my liking, attractiveness of the girls did not match the price. Perhaps later in the night with dancing girls the vibe might be better. In hindsight I might go back but would stick to a local only.

I left almost right away as I was getting hungry. Total I believe was 2.5 million. I asked about Credit card but they said it was 3% charge so I paid cash. (Alexis does not have any CC surcharge).

Classic (2nd floor).

Session 1.

With Maliboro not living up to expectations, the next day I headed back to Classic around 4:30 pm and immediately regretted it after walking in. Maybe 5 customers. Maybe 20 girls. The mamasan sat me down in front of her 8 girls or so and they were all 3-6's in my opinion. I must have come much too early. Of course she brings over a girl that I don't like and I tried to tell them I just wanted to drink. She sent the girl away and sat with me and constantly pestering me with 'how about this one' or 'this one?' using your laser pointer with the girls right in front of us. It was pretty funny. Finally she got the hint and left for a minute and I looked behind me to the other couch and the girls over there were equally bad. She would keep coming back every couple of minutes and I gave that same smile and look that I just wanted to sit and drink. After about 10 mins she came up from behind and produced a very pretty girl (7. 0 in my book). Slim, nice chest and even a bit taller than average. Plus her English was pretty good. Mamasan working hard pulling this one out of the dressing room. We talked and she was very nice but not a lot of energy. Despite this, I still picked her. And I'm glad I did. (she told me I was the first guy of the day for her and she began at 3 pm).

Right when we get into the room and after she orders a water she takes off my shirt and goes to work on my nipples starts to rub over my pants. All a 'routine' but I liked the energy. Her top and pants are off when the water comes and she hides behind the door. The rest of the session was more of the same. She wanted me to finger her, she did BBBJ and the sex was great. Afterward she cleaned me up and wanted to 'spoon' together to rest and that was kinda 'fun' too as I was a bit tired. So we did that for the last 15 mins or so and I was taking a shower when the phone rang. I gave her a tip and she said drop it in her bag and never even looked at it. Interesting girl. But I definitely left a satisfied customer.

Session 2.

I came back onto the floor and there were a lot more customers now and more than double the girls. I decided to walk over to an empty table closer to the side with the stage and got a water. I hung out watching the mamasans at work and the girls coming and going. Eventually the stage lit up and girls got ready to dance. I just sat there for over 40 mins I think. I once I kinda 'cruised' past all the couches checking out the girls a bit but no one was above a 6.5. I waited another 20 minutes and thought if I don't see a girl this time I would leave and perhaps give Alexis Hotel a chance. As I got to the other side of the club where most of the girls sit, I caught the eye of this very, very cute spinner. 8.5 face on my scale. Turns out she is 19. My tastes vary but I don't mind a thin girl especially with that face. Now I know what you are thinking-- starfish. Yeah, I knew that was a possibility as she was shy and spoke very little English but at 350 k I'm willing to take a hit for the team.

So the session was not fantastic nor bad. She ordered a Pocari Sweat drink and I was impressed she wanted to keep her electrolytes levels high:) She smoked as we waited for the drink and make the mistake of putting the cigarette on the bed so when we got up to get the door it created a small burn hole in the bed which frustrated her. (at the end she said it would cost her 500 K if they noticed it). She was pretty shy but she did BBBJ very well and although she was not a ball of energy in bed, she also was not a dead fish. Overall, I was very satisfied and would choose her again. I'm also a sucker for a pretty face.

(500 k+100 k tip).

[QUOTE=LifeIsABeach;1787329]Been reading the last 30 pages and have decided that I might stay a couple of days in North Jakarta for the Brothel scene and the rest of my time in South Jakarta with the free lancers. I do not mind if the girls are a bit older in South Jakarta. It's the moves they make in bed that matters. A 'stunner' does not equate to better service though one may get lucky sometimes.

I would like to visit these places before the girls' pussies get filled with ojek drivers' cum! I would appreciate if the posters would help out with 'good' times to visit the various venues. I read that Malioboro starts at about 3. 00 pm.

Would like opening or action times for these venues Malio club, Malioboro, Classic, Travel and other brothels in the area.

Thank you.[/QUOTE]Malioboro you can get there at 3 pm and have some girls to choose from. All the girls won't be there until 6 pm. You don't have to worry about any ojek drivers going there, it's too expensive.

Classic and Travel I have been there at 2 pm and there are girls.

I always go to the down market places like Classic or Travel early and don't worry about what time I go to Malioboro. Night is ok at Malioboro.

[QUOTE=TimTimGuy;1787098]My info is a year old, alas, but I used to bring wine into CGK in checked luggage. The bags are x-rayed or otherwise looked at before they go onto the baggage carrousel, and if something is spotted, the bag gets a chalk mark. (or maybe just random marking, who knows?) The customs guys open bags with chalk marks. So, if you are carrying, keep a napkin from the plane, look carefully at your bag (sometimes the mark is on the zipper) and erase the chalk before you go to the check-out x-ray. TTG is a specialist at packing box wine in checked luggage.[/QUOTE]Not anymore. I've flown in and out of Jakarta (internationally) 6 times in the last 2 months, and every single time ALL bags got checked. I remember that before it was only randomly selected checked luggage (indeed with the chalk marks), but it seems they have changed that. They even wanted to scan all the hand luggage as well, which I don't remember from the last time I left / re-entered back in February.

[QUOTE=HihiSter;1787381]Not anymore. I've flown in and out of Jakarta (internationally) 6 times in the last 2 months, and every single time ALL bags got checked. I remember that before it was only randomly selected checked luggage (indeed with the chalk marks), but it seems they have changed that. They even wanted to scan all the hand luggage as well, which I don't remember from the last time I left / re-entered back in February.[/QUOTE]The last few years they have always checked hand luggage, that is, sent it through the x-ray machine (or whatever it is) as you exit customs. I did arrive in Jakarta a few weeks ago and don't recall them sending my checked luggage through that machine, but I suppose they might have and I just don't remember.

[QUOTE=PStevens999;1784721]I was in Indonesia for a couple of weeks on a dive trip--spent a few of those days in Jakarta. The last night in Jakarta was Wednesday night. Relying on Natty Bumpo's awesome reports, decided to check out ladies night at CJ's bar at the Mulia hotel.

I personally have never seen anything of this magnitude. Arrived around 10:00 PM. The place was absolutely packed with Freelancers--and not that many punters. The ratio must have been at 5 or 6 to one. Most of the girls are standing in the aisles.

There are some booths in the back that were mostly empty when I arrived. They had a nice band with a good female lead singer. Although there were quite a few older and fatter chicks that I would not fuck if they paid me, the overall quality was very good.

I wandered around looking for that tell tale smile and eye contact from a cute young thang--after a couple of false starts --I got a good vibe from a very attractive girl from Bandung. She was there with her friend--both of whom had small kids.

While their English was not that great (and I know some very basic Bahasa) --we had no problem communicating. I bought them both a couple of drinks--lots of playful kissing--ass squeezing--and crotch grabbing..[/QUOTE]When I go to Indonesia it would be on a mongering trip for three weeks. No way, I could afford $280 every night. But budgeting on other nights I would be willing to spend that every four days as a special treat. So yes, thanks very much for this trip report so I can add that to my fantasy or bucket list or planning. At the very least go on Wednesday nights at CJ's to get a stunner and budget the other nights. Indonesian babes are gorgeous.

[QUOTE=HihiSter;1787381]Not anymore. I've flown in and out of Jakarta (internationally) 6 times in the last 2 months, and every single time ALL bags got checked. I remember that before it was only randomly selected checked luggage (indeed with the chalk marks), but it seems they have changed that. They even wanted to scan all the hand luggage as well, which I don't remember from the last time I left / re-entered back in February.[/QUOTE]When I lived in Indonesia and the 80+ times I transited, the hand luggage ALWAYS went thru the x-ray machines for a scan. When I said 'got checked' I meant a piece of checked luggage was opened and inspected. I could have been more clear!

[QUOTE=TimTimGuy;1787463]When I lived in Indonesia and the 80+ times I transited, the hand luggage ALWAYS went thru the x-ray machines for a scan. When I said 'got checked' I meant a piece of checked luggage was opened and inspected. I could have been more clear![/QUOTE]Agreed. Hand luggage is always scanned. The check in bags are randomly scanned. I just came through a few weeks ago and they did not scan my check in bag, but they did of course scan my carry on luggage as always.

That being said, I normally buy duty free alcohol in Singapore on my way to Jakarta. Most times I just get one bottle, but many times I have bought 2 bottles and carried them in clear view with the clear plastic duty free bag. They have never said anything to me about bringing 2 even though the limit is supposedly 1. I have friends who would pack 5 bottles of wine in their check in bag every time they came into the country. It's a gamble because those bags could be searched, but if they catch you with them, I believe you would have to pay a tax. I've never packed more than 2 bottles of alcohol in my check in bag, but I've not had a problem. My check in bags are scanned on occasion. I guess maybe there is a chalk mark, but many times when they scan those, they are scanning everyone's check in bag at that time. Most times when they ask me to scan my check in bag, they don't even look at it before they ask me to throw it in the scanner. There was only one time they ever searched my bag after scanning and that was when I was bringing 4 big cannisters of protein powder in my bag. I explained to them that's just for me and I use it to stay fit. They didn't charge me any tax for that and let me pass.

With the new supposed clamp down on alcohol, I'm not sure if they are more strict or not.

Hi all,

I do still have a few pills with me in Europe, but am hesitant to bring them since I want to avoid any issues regarding having pills on me when entering the country (I know it is unlikely, but I am highly risk averse regarding customs / immigration).

I have read through some old messages on buying mainly vitamin V and would be grateful if a fellow member with some knowledge could confirm my understanding and maybe provide an update on prices. :

- Pills are generally available in pharmacies without prescription, but not exactly cheap.

- particularly in Kota (Gaja Mada, Lokasari) there are lots of street vendors selling generica. While most likely not original impression is that the pills do actually contain Sidenafil etc.

Many thanks in advance for guidance on this subject.

Best regards.

Thommy

[QUOTE=Thommy84;1788365]Hi all,

I do still have a few pills with me in Europe, but am hesitant to bring them since I want to avoid any issues regarding having pills on me when entering the country (I know it is unlikely, but I am highly risk averse regarding customs / immigration).

I have read through some old messages on buying mainly vitamin V and would be grateful if a fellow member with some knowledge could confirm my understanding and maybe provide an update on prices. :

- Pills are generally available in pharmacies without prescription, but not exactly cheap.

- particularly in Kota (Gaja Mada, Lokasari) there are lots of street vendors selling generica. While most likely not original impression is that the pills do actually contain Sidenafil etc.

Many thanks in advance for guidance on this subject.

Best regards.

Thommy[/QUOTE]Sildenafil, which is the active ingredient in Viagra, is available at drug stores in most malls throughout Jakarta, e.g., Plaza Indonesia. As an approximation it costs around $6 or $7 US per pill, although depending on your needs you may be able to get away with splitting the pills (I believe they are 100 MG). At Century Drugstore, one of the two majors, you can get a member's card for the asking, which will give you a 5 percent discount.

I have found that if you ask for generic Viagra they may say they don't have it. But if you ask for Sildenafil, they do. This may reflect a translation problem or that there is, in fact, a brand name, Rozgra, they stick on the generic stuff. So, you could ask for Rozgra if Sildenafil doesn't work.

I myself avoid drugs from street vendors because rightly or wrongly I believe there are increased risks in purchasing outside of respectable drug stores but that, of course, is a personal decision.

Hope this helps.

My last night in Jakarta and I debated going back to Classic for another 2 shot night or heading over to Alexis to see how a more expensive place would play out on a Saturday night. I ended up running behind and it was close to 10 pm by the time I arrived as the taxi driver didn't really understand Alexis Hotel so we ended up towards the back of the building complex which you don't want to enter from even though it shows Alexis hotel because cars going that way have to take a parking ticket (5 k). The driver was not too happy about that and I wasn't either. I ended up giving him 4 k. The front entrance has a gate but no parking ticket needed for taxis.

Alexis does look high class compared to Maliboro. I got off on the 7th floor and again decided to forgo changing into the robe and went straight into the lounge which had 10 or so customers and tons of girls. 25-30 locals, 12 Viet, 5 PRC, 9 Thai, 6 eastern Europe.

On average, the girls here were younger and the imports were definitely more attractive than Maliboro. The locals were slightly younger on average but only 2-3 really caught my eye and none that were truly amazing. Cost is 1. 4 mil for locals and 2. 4 mil for imports. 30 mins with the girl in the spa and 1 HR in the room. Perhaps because all the mamasans work for Alexis and not competing, the vibe there was very relaxed with no pressure. I ended up sitting and just enjoying the view and watching the countless line-ups all the girls had to do.

I couldn't get a good look at the PRCs from where I was sitting but when they did a line-up across the room, I was tempted by a couple but wanted to get a better look. I took a restroom break and when I came back there was only 1 PRC. Damn. But perhaps that would save me some money. But the local talent was not amazing. There was one that was well built-- tall, young, some meat on her and big natural boobs. But she was either shy or didn't really like me because when we caught each other's eye she only had a half smile. (however over the course of the night I could see she did not smile at anyone).

I didn't have any food for about 6 hrs so I decided to order some chicken / rice and wait to see if perhaps some better looking girls or the PRC chicks I saw earlier would come back. After dinner I headed back into the main lounge and only 2 PRC girls with one being much more attractive, but when someone at my table got a line-up and I had a chance to see her walk she her face was great but her body was not as good as I expected so I decided that I would focus on a local. I narrowed it down to new girl (8.50 face, spinner) and the Girl who doesn't smile (8.0 face and 9.5 body). She still did not really smile but I was going to choose her, but a Japanese guy in a group of 3 who had been there forever (I was also there for a long time, LOL) went up to her and took her hand. I'm too slow. It's now almost 12:30 am and I saw a bunch of people coming in so I thought 'better be quick'. Spinner it is.

30 mins in the spa is more like 15 mins. This is for everyone because there were girls who only spent 10 mins in the spa. She would massage your head and back. Then she would get in front of you to rub her butt against your goodies and your hands could roam. I saw the Girl Who Would not Smile in the spa with the Japanese guy and she did not seem very friendly so although that body was rocking' I was glad with my pick.

Going to the room they said all the normal rooms for full so 100 k extra for VIP room or wait. It was just about 1 am so I accepted the VIP room.

The girl was very friendly and her English was OK so we could communicate a little. Spinner body with a small be cup. BBBJ and the sex was much better than expected. She was super wet and responsive. Not a ton of energy but very willing to get into different positions.

(1.4 mil and I forgot to give her a tip but at no point did she look to get one and very warm saying goodbye.).

I guessed her age to be 20 yo and she said she was 19. She also said they take home 1 million (of 1.4) which seemed very high, but glad she can get it. She said one friend told her that Classic only gives the girls 90 K.

[QUOTE=LAGuy5;1788426]Sildenafil, which is the active ingredient in Viagra, is available at drug stores in most malls throughout Jakarta, e.g., Plaza Indonesia. As an approximation it costs around $6 or $7 US per pill, although depending on your needs you may be able to get away with splitting the pills (I believe they are 100 MG). At Century Drugstore, one of the two majors, you can get a member's card for the asking, which will give you a 5 percent discount.

I have found that if you ask for generic Viagra they may say they don't have it. But if you ask for Sildenafil, they do. This may reflect a translation problem or that there is, in fact, a brand name, Rozgra, they stick on the generic stuff. So, you could ask for Rozgra if Sildenafil doesn't work.

I myself avoid drugs from street vendors because rightly or wrongly I believe there are increased risks in purchasing outside of respectable drug stores but that, of course, is a personal decision.

Hope this helps.[/QUOTE]Thanks, La Guy. This is indeed very helpful. Do you happen to know whether they also sell Vardenafil or Tadalafil? Since they do apparently offer Sildenafil, I'd assume they have the alternatives as well.

I will have 2-3 stopovers in Jakarta each for 2-3 days, so most likely I will "go crazy" when in Jakarta and particularly Cialis / similar stuff may be the best choice to cover both day and night time action.

[QUOTE=TimTimGuy;1787463]When I lived in Indonesia and the 80+ times I transited, the hand luggage ALWAYS went thru the x-ray machines for a scan. When I said 'got checked' I meant a piece of checked luggage was opened and inspected. I could have been more clear![/QUOTE]I believe this conversation should be transferred to the General Information thread, since it is not about Jakarta in particular.

Regards,

Ko.

[QUOTE=MasBule;1786436]FYI. Most of the large supermarkets in the modern malls have spirits.

Just last night I was wondering around PI, and stumbled upon the alcohol section in the foodhall.

The Gin's, Vodkas and Tequilas were all in the 800 k range.[/QUOTE]In Plaza Senayan there is also a discrete shop in the basement, next to the escalator, to buy various kinds of hard liquor.

Dear Fellow members,

I was once very active member on WSG and suddenly the site got too much restrictions. 2010 I moved to United States and focus on my studies and work.

My expertise was in Kuala Lumpur Market, and very well mongering experience back in 2005 till 2010.

My chick of choice always been and always will be Bakso, Indonesian girls are one of the most prettest girls when its come Asia. Stunning smile, jaw dropping bodies and beautiful skin. Its my thing I never had so much great sex with any other girls but Indonesian girl I think its just me. I have tried majority of girl of all the races and nationalities but nothing come close to Indonesian girl how horny can they can.

Anyway How I am going to Jakarta and Jogja doing my extensive homework on OKC, Tagged, DIA and Badoo.

So far I have 4 girls waiting on me impatiently All 4 of them are non-pros and age from 20 to 28. I will spend 1 week with each of them and I want to stay in Indonesia for 4 week.

As soon as make my Walmart debit card I will be paid member but I am so so happy I found this website. Don't want my GF to find out the charge on my card from ISG.

I will let my fellow mongers know as soon as I book my flight if someone want to hangout for beer in Jakarta or Jogja.

Happy mongering and be safe everyone.

[QUOTE=Thommy84;1788657]Thanks, La Guy. This is indeed very helpful. Do you happen to know whether they also sell Vardenafil or Tadalafil? Since they do apparently offer Sildenafil, I'd assume they have the alternatives as well.

I will have 2-3 stopovers in Jakarta each for 2-3 days, so most likely I will "go crazy" when in Jakarta and particularly Cialis / similar stuff may be the best choice to cover both day and night time action.[/QUOTE]As to Tadalafil / Cialis, I haven't had any luck recently getting it in generic or quasi-generic form. But I vaguely remember (so vaguely I'm not positive my recollection is correct) getting it a few years ago at a drug store in generic form for around the same price as generic Viagra. I also am not certain when I have recently asked unsuccessfully for it whether I said "generic Cialis" (in which case I may have been up against the same situation I described earlier when asking for "generic Viagra") or whether I asked for tadalafil, although I tend to think I did ask for tadalafil and may have only been given the option of purchasing very expensive Cialis.

I have no idea about Vardenafil as I haven't tried it or attempted to purchase it.

As long as we are on the subject, if you live in the United States and do a google search for Cialis coupon, Lilly, the manufacturer, offers a coupon good for 30 free 5 MG tablets. The coupon can be used once per year, but requires a prescription from a doctor to get filled, which can then be done at any pharmacy. Depending on whether you are a 10 MG or 20 MG Cialis user, this translates into either 15 or 7 1/2 regular sized Cialis pills.

And also, responding to another thing you mentioned in your earlier post on the subject, I would be virtually certain that if you entered Indonesia with a prescription for Cialis or Viagra there would be no problem going through customs. OTOH, although I too tend to be fairly careful about things, I have never thought twice about bringing in any of these particular drugs when entering Indonesia, even without a prescription. This reflects that you don't need a prescription to buy them in Indonesia, so why would you need one to enter the country with them? Well, you never know, but that is how I have looked at it.

[QUOTE=Thommy84;1788365]Hi all,

I do still have a few pills with me in Europe, but am hesitant to bring them since I want to avoid any issues regarding having pills on me when entering the country (I know it is unlikely, but I am highly risk averse regarding customs / immigration).

I have read through some old messages on buying mainly vitamin V and would be grateful if a fellow member with some knowledge could confirm my understanding and maybe provide an update on prices. :

- Pills are generally available in pharmacies without prescription, but not exactly cheap.

- particularly in Kota (Gaja Mada, Lokasari) there are lots of street vendors selling generica. While most likely not original impression is that the pills do actually contain Sidenafil etc.

Many thanks in advance for guidance on this subject.

Best regards.

Thommy[/QUOTE]You will get them from nearly any apotek.

I have just returned from Indonesia, I was paying 100,000 idr for 2 cialis.

If you are prescribed them at home, you won't have any problems with customs, just bring them in the original packaging and have a letter from your doctor stating that they are prescribed for personal use (this goes for all medication.

[QUOTE=LAGuy5;1788881]And also, responding to another thing you mentioned in your earlier post on the subject, I would be virtually certain that if you entered Indonesia with a prescription for Cialis or Viagra there would be no problem going through customs. OTOH, although I too tend to be fairly careful about things, I have never thought twice about bringing in any of these particular drugs when entering Indonesia, even without a prescription. This reflects that you don't need a prescription to buy them in Indonesia, so why would you need one to enter the country with them? Well, you never know, but that is how I have looked at it.[/QUOTE]As this time I stay 6 months in Bali I brought with me all medication needed for that time and I take 9 different pills daily.

No one cared.

Dee.

Dear mongers (especially Ceegee).

In preparation for my trip to Jakarta in December, I have been on Badoo. I have offered 3 young women 500,000 IDR plus tip for 3 hours in my hotel room. They have refused and quoted me at least 1 million for ST. I tried countering with 750,000 plus tip, but no luck. I have told them that I've never paid that much for ST. Have you guys experienced this? Any advice, or should I just suck it up and fork out the 1 million?

P.S. Promise a good trip report in January after my trip.

[QUOTE=HotMale9833;1789685]Dear mongers (especially Ceegee).

In preparation for my trip to Jakarta in December....p.[/QUOTE]My own sense is, October is way too early for the girls to take a "price cut". Good luck!

[QUOTE=HotMale9833;1789685]Dear mongers (especially Ceegee).

In preparation for my trip to Jakarta in December, I have been on Badoo. I have offered 3 young women 500,000 IDR plus tip for 3 hours in my hotel room. They have refused and quoted me at least 1 million for ST. I tried countering with 750,000 plus tip, but no luck. I have told them that I've never paid that much for ST. Have you guys experienced this? Any advice, or should I just suck it up and fork out the 1 million?

P.S. Promise a good trip report in January after my trip.[/QUOTE]To HotMale9833.

No sure what is the last time you are here but thing gone up a lot the last 5 yr for freelance at Disco pick up and escort, your options is go to hotel travel and classic hotel rate is still about 350 k didn't change much at all the last 5 yr, the USD is strong now 100 usd get you 1. 4 mil.

Fast eddie 48.

[QUOTE=HotMale9833;1789685]Dear mongers (especially Ceegee).

In preparation for my trip to Jakarta in December, I have been on Badoo. I have offered 3 young women 500,000 IDR plus tip for 3 hours in my hotel room. They have refused and quoted me at least 1 million for ST. I tried countering with 750,000 plus tip, but no luck. I have told them that I've never paid that much for ST. Have you guys experienced this? Any advice, or should I just suck it up and fork out the 1 million?

P.S. Promise a good trip report in January after my trip.[/QUOTE]Love a guy doing some research and pre-booking. I wonder if those girls have any cancellation fees.

I've never had a FL in Jakarta but for internet play (social media, websites) pricing has gone up a lot. Market pricing is much higher as there is a lot of people willing to pay 1 million to 2 million. For me that makes sense if the girl is hot but some of these ladies look like they've had better days (but service might be great). Photos online I also would be concerned about not just bait and switch but also just photos of a 30 yo when she was 24 yo. But as someone else mentioned jokingly time plays a factor. A girl at 11 pm might be 2 million and at 3 am she is 1 million.

Personally, Classic and their 1 hour for 350 k is pretty unbeatable. 700 k if you wanted to stay for a few hours and go two rounds.

But if you love the comforts of your hotel and spending 2-3 hrs with the girl then I think 1 million pre-booking is not a bad deal in this current market.

[QUOTE=WrinkleFree;1790246]
Personally, Classic and their 1 hour for 350 k is pretty unbeatable. 700 k if you wanted to stay for a few hours and go two rounds.

But if you love the comforts of your hotel and spending 2-3 hrs with the girl then I think 1 million pre-booking is not a bad deal in this current market.[/QUOTE]That deal at Classic sounds like such a bargain. Only 350 k for a young, good looking girl for an hour in a pretty nice room. The only problem is the service you receive from the girls is mediocre to poor, and most times I leave that place feeling like I have a case of blue balls even though I just came.

Almost invariably, you will get much better service from those free lancers. You can find free lancers who will go with you for 500 k in the lower end malls if you put in the time and effort to go hunting. But 1 million is pretty much the normal rate these days on the average for a nice free lancer. Blok M girls you can get for 700 k for a nice girl. Bats and CJs chicks are going to want between 1. 5 and 2 million (but they can be had for less on ladies night and at closing time).

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1790265]That deal at Classic sounds like such a bargain. Only 350 k for a young, good looking girl for an hour in a pretty nice room. The only problem is the service you receive from the girls is mediocre to poor, and most times I leave that place feeling like I have a case of blue balls even though I just came.

Almost invariably, you will get much better service from those free lancers. You can find free lancers who will go with you for 500 k in the lower end malls if you put in the time and effort to go hunting. But 1 million is pretty much the normal rate these days on the average for a nice free lancer. Blok M girls you can get for 700 k for a nice girl. Bats and CJs chicks are going to want between 1. 5 and 2 million (but they can be had for less on ladies night and at closing time).[/QUOTE]I know Classic is not very popular to some long timers, but I think it is one of the best bargains you can find. Where else can you get such a wide selection of young girls? What you see is what you get unless you missed that push up bra. It's a pump and run place, nothing more. If you pay double versus Classic, you can get an incall massage from we chat for double the time. The downside? The pics are all fake. But I've found them to be very GFE (ymmv). I've tried BATS (well went there a few times came back empty), but never found the crowd to be better than what you can find at Classic. Lots of average or plus sized ladies. But I've found at least a few very solid 8-9's at Classic every time.

My favorite choice now is we chat. I've tried a few times and found one cutie. I'll try a few more times but also see if the cutie can share some friend contacts. I think this is the best way, at least for me.

[QUOTE=Kaywhy;1790423]I know Classic is not very popular to some long timers, but I think it is one of the best bargains you can find. [/QUOTE]I don't disagree. It's worth the 350 k just to be in the room naked with them.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1790265]That deal at Classic sounds like such a bargain. Only 350 k for a young, good looking girl for an hour in a pretty nice room. The only problem is the service you receive from the girls is mediocre to poor, and most times I leave that place feeling like I have a case of blue balls even though I just came.

Almost invariably, you will get much better service from those free lancers. You can find free lancers who will go with you for 500 k in the lower end malls if you put in the time and effort to go hunting. But 1 million is pretty much the normal rate these days on the average for a nice free lancer. Blok M girls you can get for 700 k for a nice girl. Bats and CJs chicks are going to want between 1. 5 and 2 million (but they can be had for less on ladies night and at closing time).[/QUOTE]I would not disagree with you. And certainly sounds like Classic is not for you. I think it is a matter of 'what is your priority?' Agreed that Classic would not be a place for service if that is very high on your list. I wish I had the time to hunt and work for some good freelancers. Unfortunately my time is really limited. I wrote before, I'm a sucker for a pretty face. So we know what my priority is. Also I'm still a newbie and I'm not a big drinker and will not have fun sitting around until 2-3 am hoping the girl I had an eye on gets picked. Also I'm really picky-- I think that will change with age. It already has changed since my early 30's.

I should have clarified that Classic is unbeatable with price / variety / and looks, but with major drawbacks on service. I did 4 girls and was satisfied with the service for the 350 k I paid. But next time around perhaps I get blueballed:).

My first time to Jakarta was great and completely beats Thailand (for me personally). But again I'm a sucker for a pretty face and find Indonesians prettier than Thais. Also I have no time, so the sauna / classic setup is a good choice. And 350 k-800 k is a pretty fair price in my book. In fact already transfered my miles to get a ticket in February.

But it's great that people have varied tastes. If everyone had loads of time to hunt in the malls / social media then that is more competition for you and also will push up the price more. But I totally get what you mean, but you can also understand things from the other side.

Hi all,

With my trip to Indonesia coming up shortly (see travel announcements section) I thought I'd share my broad planning here in the forum and see whether senior members have any insight and wish to comment. So here it goes:

I will have 3 layovers in Jakarta during my time, all for 3 days. First, arrival on Saturday evening until Tuesday am, second arrival on Thursday afternoon until Sunday and last from Wednesday or Thursday until Saturday evening.

In general I'm looking for balanced mongering activities with partaking in:

- Spas / massages leading to a happy ending either by hand or by going all the way with the lady of choice.

- bordellos / one stop shops. Either cheap and quick or exclusive.

- freelancers.

- depending on time, mood and success I am also looking to see whether I can score 1 (or more) freebies, either via WeChat / Tinder and or by pick up in malls / bars / clubs (I am a bule in his early 30's, so based on what I hear / read there may be a chance).

Location wise I have already posted in the hotel section that I will be staying in the central / northern area of Jakarta during all three trips (I. E. Locations in the South are not my priority during this visit).

Area of interest 1: Spas / Massages.

- Kimocho Spa, Mangga Besar (just across Hotel Travel).

I've been here on my last trip twice and. While the facilities are old. I liked the ladies and am set on returning at least once to test one of the favorites in the local indonesian forums, No. 33 (called Rebekka) who is said to provide good service.

Prices according to my research: 200 k for facilities + massage, 300 - 500 k tips for full service (last year I managed 400 k both times, so seems to be realistic).

- Delta Spa (unsure which location).

I believe a visit to a Delta Spa branch should be on the agenda for every healthy male visiting Jakarta. It is just pure bliss to spend an afternoon relaxing with Sauna, whirlpool and then a nice massage with a happy ending included!

- Cherry Spa (Lokasari).

While I haven't seen this spa mentioned a lot here, it seems to have a good lounge area to stay around and have a drink after the "spa time", so it is on my short list of new places to explore.

Prices: similar to Kimocho. There is an all in package available at 450/500 / 550 k depending on room type.

Area of interest 2: bordellos / one stop shops.

- Hotel Classic.

I will most definitely end up at classic at least 3 x since I had quite positive experiences here during my last visit. I fully understand where most of the critics come from, but so far I usually got average service (which seems to be "good" service in classic terms) to way below average prices, so I will return.

Prices: not sure about the 3 some price, one on one seems to be 350 k.

- Hotel Travel.

I haven't been, but will likely jump in to see how it compares to classic.

- Malioboro / Malio Club.

Since I'm looking for at least 1 slightly more decadent night than classic / travel I'm currently looking at Malioboro to do this (since I do not want to pay the rates at Alexis).

Area of interest 3: Freelancers.

As mentioned I will be staying central / north, so currently have not planned to visit the Blok, but rather focus on BATS / CJs (only once or twice).

Area of interest 4: Freebies.

Since it has been a while I'm not sure what the happening places are at the moment to connect with young, preferably english speaking Indonesian girls open to a short term fling with a visiting caucasian male (I'm in my early 30's by the way), so if anyone has good, up to date information I'd appreciate it. Last time I was in Jakarta e. G. X2 / Immigrant where good places, but most girls have only been interested in a steady boyfriend and I'm not looking to play them.

For malls: I have never tried to score / chat up any girls in malls until now, but it seems that there is a decent chance of success. Are there any malls more likely to be successful (in central / north) or does it not really matter?

Overall: I can't wait to get on the plane and will surely have my balls emptied by a nice Indonesian lady already my first night.

Regards.

Thommy.

Hi all,

Apologies for posting yet another message, but I hope that you do know the feeling of anticipation before an upcoming trip that makes you want to be prepared in the best possible way to make the most of the limited time that you have in the city / country you are visiting.

Since I will arrive on Halloween, Saturday Oct 31st, I was wondering if any of you are aware of any special Halloween events where I might have the chance to watch some eye candy dressed up as slutty nurses, witches, schoolgirls or whatever comes to their mind and. If lucky. Even take one (or more) to my hotel room. I'd be both interested in non-pro events in bars / clubs as well as events in Spa's / Bordellos.

I simply think, that a party atmosphere with scantily clad, dressed up Indonesian hotties dancing to the music and grinding their bodies would be the perfect start into my trip.

Last time that I was in Jakarta during Halloween was in 2010 or 2011 and to be honest I don't recall any big events, but maybe someone better informed has heard something?

Best regards.

Thommy

I doubt there would be any recognition of Halloween at all, since this is primarily only celebrated in America, and quite alien to Muslim tradition. Maybe in some tourist places frequented by Americans?

[QUOTE=Thommy84;1791945]
Since I will arrive on Halloween, Saturday Oct 31st, I was wondering if any of you are aware of any special Halloween events where I might have the chance to watch some eye candy dressed up as slutty nurses, witches, schoolgirls or whatever comes to their mind and. If lucky. Even take one (or more) to my hotel room. I'd be both interested in non-pro events in bars / clubs as well as events in Spa's / Bordellos.[/QUOTE]

If it was me. I'd do Dragonfly as its is always easy to mingle and meet girls, if you dress sharp and can string a sentence together , you will be ok [URL]http://dragonflynightclub.com/events/halloween-night/[/URL] .

Followed by one of the many spas in the city for a sexy halloween dancer show. All the big ones will have a theme. Illegals has a halloween event advertised on their website with sexy dancers which looks like alot of fun, Alexis will have something for sure. BFashion Hotel (a bit local IMHO) has an event advertised in their 2nd floor bar. Golden Crown has something on their website as well, possibly sexy dancers there.

[QUOTE=Thommy84;1791945]Hi all,

Apologies for posting yet another message, but I hope that you do know the feeling of anticipation before an upcoming trip that makes you want to be prepared in the best possible way to make the most of the limited time that you have in the city / country you are visiting.

Since I will arrive on Halloween, Saturday Oct 31st, I was wondering if any of you are aware of any special Halloween events where I might have the chance to watch some eye candy dressed up as slutty nurses, witches, schoolgirls or whatever comes to their mind and. If lucky. Even take one (or more) to my hotel room. I'd be both interested in non-pro events in bars / clubs as well as events in Spa's / Bordellos.

I simply think, that a party atmosphere with scantily clad, dressed up Indonesian hotties dancing to the music and grinding their bodies would be the perfect start into my trip.

Last time that I was in Jakarta during Halloween was in 2010 or 2011 and to be honest I don't recall any big events, but maybe someone better informed has heard something?

Best regards.

Thommy[/QUOTE]There are definitely some places that will have Halloween parties and sexily costumed girls. BATS is normally pretty good for Halloween. I am not in town currently, but this is direct from google.

JAGERMEISTER CARNIVAL OF SOULS HALLOWEEN PARTY at BATS SHANGRI-LA Jakarta (OCT. 31).

Halloween party at BATS will be enlivened by DJ Riri Mestica and you can party there till 5:00.

CIRQUE DU FREAK SHIVE NIGHT at FOUNDRY 8, Jakarta (OCT. 31).

This event will be enlivened by March Mayhem, Gema Putrawan, Fendy, Tanzel and Jaqueline. The event will begin at 22:000.

SKELETON SOIREE at DRAGONFLY, Jakarta (OCT. 31).

This event starts from 22:00, and will feature a DJ duo from the Netherlands. You could win an iPhone 6, iPhone 6+ and iPhone 5's if you are wearing the best costume.

CONJURING at EMPIRICA, Jakarta (OCT. 31).

The event lasted until 5:00 am will feature top DJ Paul Van Dyk. You could win an iPhone 6, iPhone 5's and iPad Mini if ​8203;you use the coolest costume.

RUBBERLAND SEXY HALLOWEEN at X2, Jakarta (OCT. 31).

Black light party will feature Alvkandi, Tiara Eve and Morena, as well as the resident DJ of X2.

LOEWY LABORATORY at LOEWE, Jakarta (OCT. 31).

Mixologist of Loewy will offer Halloween-themed special cocktail, with DJ Mike Moran who will ensure the atmosphere remains hip.

ONE NIGHT WITH ANNABELLE at IMMIGRANT, Jakarta (OCT. 31).

DJ Jochen Miller of the Netherlands will entertain you all night, plus a special dance performance by the Wear Red.

[QUOTE=ChuckPup;1792008]I doubt there would be any recognition of Halloween at all, since this is primarily only celebrated in America, and quite alien to Muslim tradition. Maybe in some tourist places frequented by Americans?[/QUOTE]Haha. I remember taking a girl friend out to the mall with her kid to see Santa Claus. He wasn't around, so I asked the security guard where he was. He said "Lagi shalat dulu" (he's off doing one of the five daily Islamic prayers). Indonesians enjoy parties and celebrations, they work out a way to fit it into whatever religious beliefs they may or may not have.

I went down to Ibu Linda on the weekend, a massage joint in the gang right near the corner between Jalan Gajah Mada and Jalan Mangga Besar. I had a session with Sandra, somewhere in her thirties, good service except that she insisted on a covered blow job. Other than that, good attitude and a nice girl. I'll probably try one of the others next time, just for the sake of comparison. The official price is 330 k, I gave her 400. I don't see this place named much on the forum, but it's a perfectly acceptable, no frills knocking shop.

[QUOTE=GonzoTwo;1792071]good service except that she insisted on a covered blow job.[/QUOTE]If that happens, regardless of venue, always insist on talking to the Madam or the manager. You should be able to switch another girl. There's no actual rule which says you need to be wearing a condom for BJ. Isn't it funny they never ask for a condom when it's a local? They insist on it so they could get you to pay up a substantial tip.

[QUOTE=EgyMonger;1792155]If that happens, regardless of venue, always insist on talking to the Madam or the manager. You should be able to switch another girl. There's no actual rule which says you need to be wearing a condom for BJ. Isn't it funny they never ask for a condom when it's a local? They insist on it so they could get you to pay up a substantial tip.[/QUOTE]Egy you should consider the issue of sexual health and well-being with these girls. You'd be surprised how much of a push there is currently taking place in North Jakarta for sex education for the girls. The new Governor has set a large budget aside.

The girl in this scenario may have realised or be fearing she has entered the second stage of syphilis and has followed her health workers advice to avoid uncovered oral and anal sex.

If a kota girl wants CBJ it's usually not difficult to politely ask to check the palm of her hands to see if she has entered the second stage of syphilis. This stage begins with a "maculopapular rash" on the palms of the hands and the soles of the feet. This type of rash doesn't usually itch, but causes rough, reddish brown spots on the skin.

Tambora.

[QUOTE=UsPete;1792224]Egy you should consider the issue of sexual health and well-being with these girls. You'd be surprised how much of a push there is currently taking place in North Jakarta for sex education for the girls. The new Governor has set a large budget aside.[/QUOTE]These have been going on for decades.

We all know in reality though it's always about the money, especially when you're being paid 150,000 or less for every customer.

I think Gonzo Two should have just popped the magical question.

Bules tend to have a reputation of being stingy when it comes to tipping afterwards in the Kota places, so that's why she used a condom with a BJ. Had he just politely suggested giving her a tip after they are done in return for no condom, she would have taken it off by all means. Worst comes to worst, he'd threaten to raise the issue with management then she would have obliged as the last thing she needs is not getting paid.

As someone who hits the Kota places on a nearly daily basis, I've never had problems getting BBFS as long as there is a tip negotiated. How much depends if she's been having a quiet day or not.

I'm looking for the name of a place in Jakarta that I was told about. I think it is more of a place for locals than foreigners. It looks like a market area with dimly lit rooms on the ground floor playing loud music, where the girls sit inside on plastic chairs and there are guys outside trying to usher you in as you walk past. Once you go in you and choose a girl, they take you to their room upstairs (its actually the room where they live) for ST.

Sound familiar to anyone? Is this place legit for foreigners to go?

Dg1980.

[QUOTE=Dg1980;1792948]I'm looking for the name of a place in Jakarta that I was told about. I think it is more of a place for locals than foreigners. It looks like a market area with dimly lit rooms on the ground floor playing loud music, where the girls sit inside on plastic chairs and there are guys outside trying to usher you in as you walk past. Once you go in you and choose a girl, they take you to their room upstairs (its actually the room where they live) for ST.

Sound familiar to anyone? Is this place legit for foreigners to go?

Dg1980.[/QUOTE]You may be referring to Kalijodo. I was only there once during the day and there wasn't much going on then. Frankly at that time I wasn't expecting to see much other than the layout of the area so can't really comment further. Do a google search on that name and Jakarta, and you will find more information some of which will likely give you pause about visiting.

I did see one thing on one internet discussion suggesting it was scheduled to be closed down a month or so ago, but there was no confirmation this actually happened.

[QUOTE=EgyMonger;1792317]These have been going on for decades.

We all know in reality though it's always about the money, especially when you're being paid 150,000 or less for every customer.

I think Gonzo Two should have just popped the magical question.

Bules tend to have a reputation of being stingy when it comes to tipping afterwards in the Kota places, so that's why she used a condom with a BJ. Had he just politely suggested giving her a tip after they are done in return for no condom, she would have taken it off by all means. Worst comes to worst, he'd threaten to raise the issue with management then she would have obliged as the last thing she needs is not getting paid.

As someone who hits the Kota places on a nearly daily basis, I've never had problems getting BBFS as long as there is a tip negotiated. How much depends if she's been having a quiet day or not.[/QUOTE]I'm kind of surprised to hear Bules tend to have a reputation of being stingy as I have heard the opposite from a few Jakarta-experienced friends who are also foreigners and claim Indonesians are poor tippers at these places. But this is not to disagree with you, just to note I am a bit surprised and perhaps have some delusional friends.

As long as we are on the subject, what would be considered a decent tip these days at the Kota places, e. G. , those off of Pangaran Jayakarta (Sari Ayu, LA Bar, etc.)? I usually tip 100,000 these days, a few years back 50,000, and during my transition to 100,000 I often left 70 or 80000. I believe my friends tend to tip around 100,000 nowadays. I do remember though one girl at LA Bar telling me a couple of years ago she usually got 100,000 to 200,000 but I thought she might have been exaggerating to try to get more than 100,000 from me; she didn't seem unhappy with 100,000 though.

[QUOTE=LAGuy5;1793033]she usually got 100,000 to 200,000.[/QUOTE]Yes, those girls are always telling those tales. But whenever I discuss with the other guys (including Indo guys), it's not really true. The tips do not vary among different venues in kota where the price of the girl / room is similar. There is no difference between the places you just mentioned and the tip you leave at Hotel Classic, Hotel Travel, or any of the kota places where the girls cost less than 500 k to take for the hour. The average tip is between 50 and 100 k. 100 k if she was good. 50 k if she was only ok. Zero if she was terrible or wanted to use a condom for the BJ. If she gave you a fantastic sesson, 200 k tip is up to you, but that's overtipping for sure unless you are paying her extra for some kind of special service like anal.

The more expensive places vary more. In the places where the price of the girl / room is 500 k to 1 million, 100 k is a standard tip, you can give 150 or 200 if she was great. For girls / room over 1 million, 100 k is still acceptable, but they are used to getting 200 k or even more if they are great.

That is for either locals or bules.

[QUOTE=Dg1980;1792948]I'm looking for the name of a place in Jakarta that I was told about. I think it is more of a place for locals than foreigners. It looks like a market area with dimly lit rooms on the ground floor playing loud music, where the girls sit inside on plastic chairs and there are guys outside trying to usher you in as you walk past. Once you go in you and choose a girl, they take you to their room upstairs (its actually the room where they live) for ST.

Sound familiar to anyone? Is this place legit for foreigners to go?

Dg1980.[/QUOTE]Yes, agree with LA Guy 5. That looks like Kalijodo.

It is in West Jakarta. You can see it from the Jakarta inner ring toll road.

Coming from the airport, heading south in the direction of the city, it's on your left, shortly after the turn off to Jakarta North.

On a map, it's next to Kali Angke, at the back of Jalan Panduan II.

Is it legit for foreigners? Depends. If you are comfortable in Indonesian and street smart. Being a local monger area with small back street alleys, it is not a safe place.

Having said that, not safe, at 150 to 200 k ST, it's likely one of the best value bangs for your buck in Jakarta. And joining a few local mongers for a beer can be fun.

Hi Guys, I had a layover in Jakarta and stayed at the infamous Classic Hotel which I highly recommend. Pulled a beautiful 37 kg (that's 81 pounds for my American friends) 32 D, yes, the Cup, named Keyza, from the third floor and pounded that tight pu**why real good. Sadly she would not let me take her picture even when I begged her with more money. I was hoping she would come to my room after her shift ended but alas no luck. Also got a double massage HJ from two see Cuppers, Annie and Rosie, on the bottom floor. The massage was great and the girls were a lot of fun. The only down-side to Classic is you have to do all your monkey business in the afternoons and evening -- no morning fun. But there are probably more than a 200 girls to choose from. If I ever go to Jakarta again, Hotel Classic is where I'm going to stay.

[QUOTE=LAGuy5;1793033]I'm kind of surprised to hear Bules tend to have a reputation of being stingy as I have heard the opposite from a few Jakarta-experienced friends who are also foreigners and claim Indonesians are poor tippers at these places. But this is not to disagree with you, just to note I am a bit surprised and perhaps have some delusional friends.

As long as we are on the subject, what would be considered a decent tip these days at the Kota places, e. G. , those off of Pangaran Jayakarta (Sari Ayu, LA Bar, etc.)? I usually tip 100,000 these days, a few years back 50,000, and during my transition to 100,000 I often left 70 or 80000. I believe my friends tend to tip around 100,000 nowadays. I do remember though one girl at LA Bar telling me a couple of years ago she usually got 100,000 to 200,000 but I thought she might have been exaggerating to try to get more than 100,000 from me; she didn't seem unhappy with 100,000 though.[/QUOTE]I wouldn't go near the Pangeran Jayakarta places these days for safety reasons.

Anyway, back on topic -- it depends on the girl.

In general though the taller and more beautiful ones tend to be a harder nut to crack when it comes to BBFS (since they make a lot of money anyway), but as long as a tip is negotiated all should be fine. As a minimum I tip 100 k however I have tipped up to 200 k.

If I get spectacular service, like a nice deep rim job for the whole hour, I may tip even more. Totally depends on the girl.

Anyone with any experience here? I like the adventure of places like this, but if its going to be a big risk then ill just stick with the normal options. From the video I have seen of the place it definitely looked to be not set up for foreigners, but then again it was a foreigner making the video. The Indonesian guys outside the places generally seemed a bit shocked to see a foreigner but not aggressive or anything untoward like that. The guy managed to get a ST onsite without any problems. Obviously the proper precautions would be needed etc.

[QUOTE=JoelGoodsen;1793092]Yes, agree with LA Guy 5. That looks like Kalijodo.

It is in West Jakarta. You can see it from the Jakarta inner ring toll road.

Coming from the airport, heading south in the direction of the city, it's on your left, shortly after the turn off to Jakarta North.

On a map, it's next to Kali Angke, at the back of Jalan Panduan II.

Is it legit for foreigners? Depends. If you are comfortable in Indonesian and street smart. Being a local monger area with small back street alleys, it is not a safe place.

Having said that, not safe, at 150 to 200 k ST, it's likely one of the best value bangs for your buck in Jakarta. And joining a few local mongers for a beer can be fun.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=EgyMonger;1793249]
In general though the taller and more beautiful ones tend to be a harder nut to crack [/QUOTE]Good point. Yes, the girls who are considered more "stereotypically" beautiful may be more stuck on themselves. I forgot to mention that I normally choose the girls that the majority of guys consider to be ugly midgets. Preferably dark skinned, flat chested, and overweight with a wide but flat ass. It's just a kink I guess. At least 40 years old and with small chubby hands and fingers. If they have any warts or tattoos of Hillary Clinton or Oprah Winfrey on their body, all the better. And if they don't have any teeth, that drives me wild. I'll pay extra for that. So base my recommendations on that type of profile.

[QUOTE=DCups;1793238]Hi Guys, I had a layover in Jakarta and stayed at the infamous Classic Hotel which I highly recommend. Pulled a beautiful 37 kg (that's 81 pounds for my American friends) 32 D, yes, the Cup, named Keyza, from the third floor and pounded that tight pu**why real good. Sadly she would not let me take her picture even when I begged her with more money. I was hoping she would come to my room after her shift ended but alas no luck. Also got a double massage HJ from two see Cuppers, Annie and Rosie, on the bottom floor. The massage was great and the girls were a lot of fun. The only down-side to Classic is you have to do all your monkey business in the afternoons and evening -- no morning fun. But there are probably more than a 200 girls to choose from. If I ever go to Jakarta again, Hotel Classic is where I'm going to stay.[/QUOTE]37 kg with huge knockers? Man, I wish you had gotten that picture.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1793410]37 kg with huge knockers? Man, I wish you had gotten that picture.[/QUOTE]Me, too, Smoothy. If any of you guys that like this type of frame go to Classic and and ask for Keysa. She is tiny, beautiful and stacked beyond belief. They are saggy because she has a kid but her tits must weigh five pounds apiece.

[QUOTE=DCups;1793420]Me, too, Smoothy. If any of you guys that like this type of frame go to Classic and and ask for Keysa. She is tiny, beautiful and stacked beyond belief. They are saggy because she has a kid but her tits must weigh five pounds apiece.[/QUOTE]Was it this girl? She didn't have a baby when I met her a couple of years ago, but she was the smallest girl with the biggest boobs I've ever met. And she worked at Classic.

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1537-Photo-Gallery&p=1417448&viewfull=1[/URL]#post1417448.

[QUOTE=Dg1980;1793302]Anyone with any experience here? I like the adventure of places like this, but if its going to be a big risk then ill just stick with the normal options. From the video I have seen of the place it definitely looked to be not set up for foreigners, but then again it was a foreigner making the video. The Indonesian guys outside the places generally seemed a bit shocked to see a foreigner but not aggressive or anything untoward like that. The guy managed to get a ST onsite without any problems. Obviously the proper precautions would be needed etc.[/QUOTE]If it's your first time in town, you probably don't want to go there. However, if you know a bit about Jakarta, you are looking for some adventure and the cheapest price in town, you can check it out. I don't really feel in danger anywhere in Jakarta relative to other countries. I think it's one of the safest cities in the world. Is Kalijodo down market? For sure. (that's why it's so cheap) People will not speak English there. And just like anywhere in the world when you go to any down market area, you need to assess your environment and keep your eyes open. But the taxi can help point out the safer places and the places with pretty young girls. And the price can't be beaten anywhere in the world. The best thing about kalijodo is every taxi in town will know exactly where it is. If I tell a taxi to take me to Kings Cross, they are highly unlikely to know where to go. But if I tell them take me to Kalijodo, they will absolutely know where to go. And they will know why you want to go there. If you can speak some indonesian, you shouldn't have any trouble getting the taxi to help you find the right spot.

I personally don't mind spending a million rupiah on a girl for an hour in a 5 star environment like Malioboro. So it's not my cup of tea to spend a lot of my time in kalijodo, and I haven't been there in a while. But if you are on a budget and like to live on the wilder side, you may like it. If you can find a buddy to go with you, it will be even better.

[QUOTE=EgyMonger;1793249]I wouldn't go near the Pangeran Jayakarta places these days for safety reasons.

Anyway, back on topic -- it depends on the girl.

In general though the taller and more beautiful ones tend to be a harder nut to crack when it comes to BBFS (since they make a lot of money anyway), but as long as a tip is negotiated all should be fine. As a minimum I tip 100 k however I have tipped up to 200 k.

If I get spectacular service, like a nice deep rim job for the whole hour, I may tip even more. Totally depends on the girl.[/QUOTE]I never have had a problem at the Pangeran Jayakarta places, nor have any friends I know. My most recent experience there was about a month ago.

However, I am always interested in other people's experiences, and if I missed something would like to know. So, Egy could you please elaborate on your comment you never go there for safety reasons, i.e., what specific dangers are you concerned about?

[QUOTE=LAGuy5;1793530]So, Egy could you please elaborate on your comment you never go there for safety reasons, i.e., what specific dangers are you concerned about?[/QUOTE]You don't want to be caught up in one of the many fights that happen there on a regular basis between the locals when things get ugly. It's already way too packed in there (as there is no entry fee like all the other places) with day labourers and ojek drivers out and about, so it makes sense now why fights are always waiting to happen. Most of these guys have no money and are only there to watch the naked dancers for free. Since it's so crowded in there when fights happen there's a chance you could get hurt somehow.

Besides, the rooms are always filled with cockroaches and things like used condoms on the shower drain. Even some of the towels appear to have poo stains on them.

If you're into downmarket, why not just go to Kalijodo? It's 150 k cheaper for every girl and nearly all taxis know how to get there unlike the Kota places.

If you don't want to go all the way to Kalijodo, the nearby M-Star in Mangga Dua doesn't have any of these problems and the rooms are just as clean as Malioboro, Classic and King's Cross.

Not the same girl unless she changed a lot from your pics. The one I had was an even smaller frame and an even cuter face and smaller aerola (sp). Ask the mamasan when you are there.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1793424]Was it this girl? She didn't have a baby when I met her a couple of years ago, but she was the smallest girl with the biggest boobs I've ever met. And she worked at Classic.

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1537-Photo-Gallery&p=1417448&viewfull=1[/URL]#post1417448.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=EgyMonger;1793249]I wouldn't go near the Pangeran Jayakarta places these days for safety reasons.[/QUOTE]I have to admit that it has been about two years ago that I went there, but I have never sensed any risky atmosphere there.

[QUOTE=Menteng;1793595]I have to admit that it has been about two years ago that I went there, but I have never sensed any risky atmosphere there.[/QUOTE]I concur Menteng, the PangJay strip is certainly trouble free albeit rather dusty. I'm wondering if EgyMonger hasn't stopped off there on his near daily sojourns. I walk from the KRL station along PangJay to get the midday IcedTea massage package at the Orchardz (Spa behind the hotel in basement). For me it can compete with what's on offer in Bangkok. I just rarely seem to get there on the day you get to see and choose the girls (anyone know?) PangJay Street also rates very highly on the domestic mongering forums.

The only area in Jakarta I feel unsafe is oddly the upmarket malls such as Senayan and PlazaIndonesia as there's often effeminite gentlemen pickpockets loitering around the coffee shops and money changers. I'm conscious if something untoward did happen the security guards would just bottle it.

Thanks Mr. Smoothy.

And what about Pen-jay bars? Anyone here with experience there? How does that compare? I do like to live on the wilder side, but my Jakarta experience is somewhat limited. Don't care about the price. You could just as easily find me at Alexis.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1793512]If it's your first time in town, you probably don't want to go there. However, if you know a bit about Jakarta, you are looking for some adventure and the cheapest price in town, you can check it out. I don't really feel in danger anywhere in Jakarta relative to other countries. I think it's one of the safest cities in the world. Is Kalijodo down market? For sure. (that's why it's so cheap) People will not speak English there. And just like anywhere in the world when you go to any down market area, you need to assess your environment and keep your eyes open. But the taxi can help point out the safer places and the places with pretty young girls. And the price can't be beaten anywhere in the world. The best thing about kalijodo is every taxi in town will know exactly where it is. If I tell a taxi to take me to Kings Cross, they are highly unlikely to know where to go. But if I tell them take me to Kalijodo, they will absolutely know where to go. And they will know why you want to go there. If you can speak some indonesian, you shouldn't have any trouble getting the taxi to help you find the right spot.

I personally don't mind spending a million rupiah on a girl for an hour in a 5 star environment like Malioboro. So it's not my cup of tea to spend a lot of my time in kalijodo, and I haven't been there in a while. But if you are on a budget and like to live on the wilder side, you may like it. If you can find a buddy to go with you, it will be even better.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=UsPete;1793608]
The only area in Jakarta I feel unsafe is oddly the upmarket malls such as Senayan and PlazaIndonesia as there's often effeminite gentlemen pickpockets loitering around the coffee shops and money changers. I'm conscious if something untoward did happen the security guards would just bottle it.[/QUOTE]Those ladyboys are best avoided at all times. Even driving past them at Taman Lawang at night can be dangerous. It's best to take the long way around.

Since I will be leaving for Jakarta soon, just a quick re-cap on the Halloween suggestions. Thanks for your input on this.

I like the sounds of BATS and Dragonfly, so these are on my shortlist to start the Saturday evening. Depending on how I like the atmosphere (and to be honest how tired I might be after a 24 HR commute) afterwards and / or alternatively I may consider BFashion (which I thought of trying anyways) or Illegals.

If anybody is interested in meeting up, please feel free to contact me.

Best regards,

Thommy

[QUOTE=Dg1980;1793302]Anyone with any experience here? I like the adventure of places like this, but if its going to be a big risk then ill just stick with the normal options.[/QUOTE]The safety comment was just added for diplomacy. If you go with the notion, there may be some people wanting to make your pockets a little lighter or spike your drink, you will be absolutely fine.

Pen-jay bars, Alexis, Malioboro, Classic, Travel, Berlian, Kartika, etc, etc, the kota places, are worth a visit, if relatviely new in town, but they tend have a very obvious commercial setup. A soapy massage can be fun though.

[QUOTE=Dg1980;1793302]Anyone with any experience here? I like the adventure of places like this, but if its going to be a big risk then ill just stick with the normal options. From the video I have seen of the place it definitely looked to be not set up for foreigners, but then again it was a foreigner making the video. The Indonesian guys outside the places generally seemed a bit shocked to see a foreigner but not aggressive or anything untoward like that. The guy managed to get a ST onsite without any problems. Obviously the proper precautions would be needed etc.[/QUOTE]The place sounds a bit like what Dolly's used to in Surabya where there about 1000 girls available and the mongers were mostly locals. I went there many times when in Surabaya about 12 years ago, the fare was 80 k - 100 k for an hour. I never saw any foreigners there. The girls either had rooms at the back or upstairs. You could buy beer or food too. I would go there from about 9. 00 pm at night and get back to the hotel about 5. 00 in the morning. I would screw a girl, wash my dick thoroughly and then sit with the locals, have a beer, some food and chit chat and then repeat with the next girl. I'll give it a shot when I get to CJK next month. I do not have problems with being with locals. I like the unbeaten path. When I was in Cuba, I would go to the local area and while walking, the number of locals behind me would multiply. No one did any harm. They were just curious.

[QUOTE=Dg1980;1793663]Thanks Mr. Smoothy.

And what about Pen-jay bars? Anyone here with experience there? How does that compare? I do like to live on the wilder side, but my Jakarta experience is somewhat limited. Don't care about the price. You could just as easily find me at Alexis.[/QUOTE]You will find it called PenJ, PenJay, Pangeran and Jl Pangeran-Jayakarta. PenJ bars names are Sari Ayu (SA), LA, ROYAL, MTR.

Bars in this ruko all have similar feel to them, but they either play dangdut or kota techno music. You enter, there are lounge type booths with a bar in the middle or at the end, full of smoke and local men drinking, often with girls sitting at their booths. Sometimes a stage for pole dancing, and somewhere at the back a mini fishbowl, or just the girls gathered on the lounges together.

Sit down and have a warm Anchor beer. Mama, in a plain boring uniform, will come over for a chat and bring some girls to you or try to drag you to the fishbowl room. Or if you check out the fishbowl on the way to the toilet, then Mama will pounce and see what your looking at. More often than not she will grab a girl and have her sit next to you and put her arm around you whilst you choose. Usual story of girls looking bored on their mobile phones.

After you choose, off to the guy behind the bars and the girl gets given a room key and a fresh towel. Up through the rabbit warren to a small bonking room. Room will have a small shower, mattress on the floor or on a base, small mirror, etc. Some have VIP rooms from memory, but I never tried those rooms.

I tip 100 k, ML is 350 k-380 k. Places close at about 2 am from memory, busiest around 10 pm, I don't know if their open daytimes though? Totally safe IMHO, Clubs have all have their own black t-shirt security once inside, and the street feels quite safe and reasonably well lit. The street is easy to find, and taxis easy in and out.

Comparisons PenJ to KFC.

PenJ safer, more organized and girls seem relatively normal, can go from one place to another easily to find one you like, rooms have showers and the beer is colder.

KFC is wilder, more premen on the streets, less safe but not unsafe if your streetwise, more places to discover, some of the girls seem more desperate and some on drugs, some girls on the street as well trying to woo their customers, cheaper (200 k ML), bonking in the girls room with often no shower in the room, and the beer is warmer.

[QUOTE=Dg1980;1793663]And what about Pen-jay bars? Anyone here with experience there? How does that compare? I do like to live on the wilder side, but my Jakarta experience is somewhat limited. Don't care about the price. You could just as easily find me at Alexis.[/QUOTE]Particularly if you are fine with a place frequented by locals, and perhaps a tad adventurous, I would recommend Pen-jay, including the bars Sari-Ayu and LA Bar, among others. Prices are about the same as Classic although I'm unaware of any price breaks like Classic's if you bring two girls to the room. Rooms are generally a step or two down from Classic, unless you take the VIP room at LA Bar, which is reasonably nice and an option I usually take. A mama or papa-san or two may speak some English, but although I have had sessions with girls there who were fluent in English, most girls speak very little if any English.

In my experience the service and attitudes of the girls at these establishments is better than at Classic, maybe much better, but there is, of course, variability.

When you first mentioned what turned out to be Kalijodo, my first reaction is you probably should try the Pen-jay places first. If you want something grittier then perhaps Kalijodo, although as noted earlier it is not a certainty that it is still open (the government keeps saying they are going to close it down, sometimes setting dates by which they are going to do so, but they have missed at least some of those dates).

[QUOTE=LifeIsABeach;1793931]The place sounds a bit like what Dolly's used to in Surabya where there about 1000 girls available and the mongers were mostly locals. I went there many times when in Surabaya about 12 years ago, the fare was 80 k - 100 k for an hour. I never saw any foreigners there. The girls either had rooms at the back or upstairs. You could buy beer or food too. I would go there from about 9. 00 pm at night and get back to the hotel about 5. 00 in the morning. I would screw a girl, wash my dick thoroughly and then sit with the locals, have a beer, some food and chit chat and then repeat with the next girl. I'll give it a shot when I get to CJK next month. I do not have problems with being with locals. I like the unbeaten path. When I was in Cuba, I would go to the local area and while walking, the number of locals behind me would multiply. No one did any harm. They were just curious.[/QUOTE]Yep, if you were OK in Dolly, you'll be OK in Kalijodo.

[QUOTE=MasBule;1793933]
KFC is wilder, more premen on the streets, less safe but not unsafe if your streetwise, more places to discover, some of the girls seem more desperate and some on drugs, some girls on the street as well trying to woo their customers, cheaper (200 k ML), bonking in the girls room with often no shower in the room, and the beer is warmer.[/QUOTE]Kalijodo is definitely wild west. If you are looking for an adventure. I used to love dirty and cheap places like that and would go out of my way to visit those type of places. For whatever reason, I felt like I was exploring new territory and living on the edge. Since I haven't been in a while, I may be game to head up there with another monger.

There are so many places you can try in Jakarta if you want to find a change of venue. Many of them are spas where the girls screw you at the end of a massage, some of them are strictly sex like Classic. It's tough to swing a dead cat in Jakarta without finding a brothel. Here are just a few. I suggest trying them all at least once.

FASHION HOTEL AND SPA.

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/Fashion-SPA-225259717599262/photos[/URL]

[URL]http://fashionhotelandspa.********.com/2013/02/foto-therapist-fashion.html[/URL]

Paradise Spa.

RUKAN Sunter Permai Blok E 15,16,17 jln danau Sunter utara.

[URL]http://paradisesunternew.********.com/2014/03/new-therapists.html[/URL]

Ruko Robinson area is another place you can try. Here's one example, but there are other places in that area.

GRIYA SEHAT.

[URL]http://gsspa168.********.com/p/blog-page.html[/URL]

Jl. Bandengan Selatan.

Komplek Ruko robinson No. 82.

Blok CS / CT / CR jak-ut.

Tropical Spa. Roxy Mas.

JL. KH Hasyim Ashari.

Komplek Ruko Roxy Mas.

Block. C1 No. 19/21 Jakarta Pusat.

Tematik.

[URL]http://spatematik.********.co.id/p/eve.html[/URL]

Jl. Jembatan Tiga Raya No. 35.

Jakarta Utara.

I haven't tried this one yet, but my buddy enjoyed it and I like the pic of the chick with the nice boobs.

[URL]http://dsensualpik.********.com/[/URL]

It's way up near waterboom though. Ruko Ekslusif Blok be no. 37 Pantai Indah Kapuk.

I hear that Kings Cross has now raised their price to 800 k. I still recommend other places in Kelapa Gading like MTR2 and the'Heaven spa. But it looks like I won't be going to Kings Cross anymore. It's a shame because I had some good experiences there. But again, time moves on and new places open. If they want to jack their prices, I'll go elsewhere.

Looks like most of my links were edited out, but it's easy to get the idea.

[QUOTE=Thommy84;1791945]
Since I will arrive on Halloween, Saturday Oct 31st, I was wondering if any of you are aware of any special Halloween events [/QUOTE]The wait staff at Star Deli were looking pretty good last night.

I have been wanting to visit Jakarta for a number of years even though I hear the city itself isn't the most desirable place in the world to visit. Needless to say, I have read the forum back for the last 90+ days but still have three simple question that I need to ask and I am hopeful I will get some responses.

1. I have seen numerous references to "BBFS" being available for additional amounts at various places. While I have enjoyed the pleasures of BBBJ from girls all over the world, I have never taken the risk of going in bareback and don't recall it ever being offered. Is it really that common in Jakarata and why in the world would anyone be this wreckless? Am I missing something?

2. I have sifted through pages of info and found a handful of places that I am interested in visiting. My question is, where do the wealthy local men of Jakarta go for the most beautiful women when money isn't an issue? Like I found in Bangkok, there are places that just don't get mentioned on ISG where wealthy local men go that are kept sort of quiet from forums like this. Does anyone know of any places?

3. I have seven free days? How many days should I stay in Jakarata before flying over to Bangkok?

Thanks for any information you are willing to share.

[QUOTE=ATexGuy;1794454]I have been wanting to visit Jakarta for a number of years even though I hear the city itself isn't the most desirable place in the world to visit. Needless to say, I have read the forum back for the last 90+ days but still have three simple question that I need to ask and I am hopeful I will get some responses.

1. I have seen numerous references to "BBFS" being available for additional amounts at various places. While I have enjoyed the pleasures of BBBJ from girls all over the world, I have never taken the risk of going in bareback and don't recall it ever being offered. Is it really that common in Jakarata and why in the world would anyone be this wreckless? Am I missing something?

2. I have sifted through pages of info and found a handful of places that I am interested in visiting. My question is, where do the wealthy local men of Jakarta go for the most beautiful women when money isn't an issue? Like I found in Bangkok, there are places that just don't get mentioned on ISG where wealthy local men go that are kept sort of quiet from forums like this. Does anyone know of any places?

3. I have seven free days? How many days should I stay in Jakarata before flying over to Bangkok?

Thanks for any information you are willing to share.[/QUOTE]To respond to your query point by point, please see hereunder.

1) It's all about poverty and the extra bucks one could make for the next meal or bare necessities. In any case they are living in hell.

2) For top end, you can visit Alexis or Malioboro. At Alexis, I always preferred the sensual massage with FS with the Chinese girls in the 5th floor. That's much more satisfying than the ones you pick up from the 7th floor. Though, the 7th floor has a multi national set of girls including Turkish, Uzbeks, former USSR, ASEAN and Indo girls. But my experience has been that the 7th floor girls go through the motion as a ritual, and fake it with all the moans, though they they are not actually enjoying it.

3) You can try the various spots which are mentioned in the forum and for many, 7 days ate also less.

Have fun.

Cheers.

[QUOTE=JohnAldrich;1794489]1) It's all about poverty and the extra bucks one could make for the next meal or bare necessities. In any case they are living in hell.[/QUOTE]Next meal or the next Gucci handbag?

Regardless if it's a CJ's chic or a SariAyu ayam, it's all about greed. Why work for 12 hours a day at Indomaret for 1.2 million a month when you could get the same amount each day opening your legs for a few minutes? Hey, doctors here make around 10 million, so it's only 10 days work for them.

Ask business owners in the service industry how it's becoming increasingly difficult finding young waitresses these days. They all want the big bucks from doing tricks so they can buy the brand name stuff.

By the way, a fresh plate of soto ayam and some rice cost only 15,000 in Jakarta. What poverty are you talking about?

Even regular civilians I meet aren't too keen on using condoms. Want to know the real reason why? Birth control pills / morning after pills are dead cheap and found in nearly every street corner in Jakarta.

[QUOTE=JohnAldrich;1794489]
For top end, you can visit Alexis or Malioboro. At Alexis, I always preferred the sensual massage with FS with the Chinese girls in the 5th floor. That's much more satisfying than the ones you pick up from the 7th floor. Though, the 7th floor has a multi national set of girls including Turkish, Uzbeks, former USSR, ASEAN and Indo girls. But my experience has been that the 7th floor girls go through the motion as a ritual, and fake it with all the moans, though they they are not actually enjoying it.
[/QUOTE]The only time I've been at Alexis I was on the 7th floor only. I felt it cost too much for too little. Do you know how much the Chinese girls on the 5th floor go for these days? I might consider giving them a try.

[QUOTE=ATexGuy;1794454]...I have never taken the risk of going in bareback and don't recall it ever being offered. Is it really that common in Jakarata and why in the world would anyone be this wreckless? Am I missing something?[/QUOTE]Indeed, you are. These questions have been discussed many times in the various ISG forums. If you have something to add, just tell us why you go for bareback, or why you don't as the case may be. And then move on to other topics. No need to elaborate or analyze.

[QUOTE=ATexGuy;1794454]...in Bangkok, there are places that just don't get mentioned on ISG where wealthy local men go that are kept sort of quiet from forums like this. Does anyone know of any places?[/QUOTE]It looks like you answered your own question in the same sentence. Very efficient.

[QUOTE=EgyMonger;1794602]
Even regular civilians I meet aren't too keen on using condoms. Want to know the real reason why? Birth control pills / morning after pills are dead cheap and found in nearly every street corner in Jakarta.[/QUOTE]I doubt that that is the reason. Is that what you are thinking about when you have BBFS?

I always compare it with fondling a breast from outside the bra. You want to touch and feel the breast directly without a layer in between.

[QUOTE=LAGuy5;1794614]The only time I've been at Alexis I was on the 7th floor only. I felt it cost too much for too little. Do you know how much the Chinese girls on the 5th floor go for these days? I might consider giving them a try.[/QUOTE]Last time I took a import (viet) it costed me approx IDR 2. 4 Mn just for the girl. All imports (EE, Thai, Viet and PRC) cost the same and pricing is segregated only between Local and Imports.

You have a base price now to begin with.

[QUOTE=LAGuy5;1794614]The only time I've been at Alexis I was on the 7th floor only. I felt it cost too much for too little. Do you know how much the Chinese girls on the 5th floor go for these days? I might consider giving them a try.[/QUOTE]I was last there in June and it was 2.1 million, but was worth every penny.

[QUOTE=JohnAldrich;1794882]I was last there in June and it was 2. 1 million, but was worth every penny.[/QUOTE]I have also only ever been to the 7th floor. Is the 5th floor the same procedure only with just PRC? Choose a girl, relax by the pool and then ST?

[QUOTE=ATexGuy;1794454]
1. Is it really that common in Jakarata

2. I have sifted through pages of info and found a handful of places that I am interested in visiting. My question is, where do the wealthy local men of Jakarta go for the most beautiful women when money isn't an issue? .[/QUOTE]Answering your 1st question. If you want to use a condom, then do so, you won't find any girl refusing you service if you want to use a condom.

Your 2nd question would be Alexis if it was me.

[QUOTE=ATexGuy;1794454]
2. I have sifted through pages of info and found a handful of places that I am interested in visiting. My question is, where do the wealthy local men of Jakarta go for the most beautiful women when money isn't an issue? Like I found in Bangkok, there are places that just don't get mentioned on ISG where wealthy local men go that are kept sort of quiet from forums like this. Does anyone know of any places?
[/QUOTE]Is it out of curiosity that you ask that? Or would you like to spend a lot? If the latter, see if Hartono still exists. Maybe another member of ISG can help you? And I remember some guy in this thread, offering high prized girls and if I'm not mistaken there was someone else offering models and starlets from soapies. If they read this maybe they can pm you.

I'm an older American with no Indonesian to speak of, and my days with FLs from places like BASL are long behind me. So after RTFF-ing, I targeted Classic Spa, among other places. After two visits during the week, I'm very grateful to all the posters who got me there. If you leave the Sewah Besar train station toward the south, take a left at the end of the road and Classic Hotel is on left about 150 m down the road. Both visits started around 5 pm and ended around 7:30, and both were for 800 k for the mid-range beauties. In the fist visit to the basement spa, I drew from a line-up of about a dozen ladies, although there were well over 50 in the viewing room. Mega was my choice, a statuesque brunette with a wonderful bottom, my weakness for sure. In the room, she was attentive and skilled without quite getting to GFE even though her English is very limited. I left a very happy fellow. The second visit started on floor 2 with a play for 2 WGs for 525 k. There were almost 2 dozen 20-something WGs on duty, including a couple of stunners, but mama-san would only bring them to my table one at a time, with no explanation on the quality. As soon as I called for DATY every prospect took off. Eventually, one young lady agreed, but I wanted a twosome. I started to cash out for my water, but then mama-san came up with a lady who said she would accommodate me. Then mama-san wanted full payment up front. I've been with WGs at spas from one end of Java to the other, and have never had to pay up front. Considering the difficulty of these negotiations, there was no was way I would do it. So I cashed out, and went down to the basement spa again. Although there were again over 50 WGs in the viewing room, this time my line-up had only 3, and 2 were too heavy for my taste. The lady of choice was LaLa, an attractive spinner who would look better with a few more toned kgs. Considering that her best quality was her conversational English, mama-san surely rigged the choice to pair me with her best chance at a connection. LaLa and I made connections galore in just about every configuration you can imagine, licking and slurping all the while. After our third position, she came down with sore-pussy syndrome, so I proposed to finish in BBBJCIM, and she did swallow every last drop. Then she filled every one of our remaining 90 min with a satisfying full-body massage and more chit-chat. She's my favorite Indo WG of all. By the time both visits ended, there were about 100 WGs in the viewing area. When I asked why I only got a line-up of 3 on my second visit, I found out that there are several independent mama-sans on the floor, and each one controls a contingent. So it appears that if you don't like your line up, you just need to pick another mama-san.

[QUOTE=Dg1980;1794952]I have also only ever been to the 7th floor. Is the 5th floor the same procedure only with just PRC? Choose a girl, relax by the pool and then ST?[/QUOTE]No. It's different. As you come out of the elevator in the fifth floor, there is a reception. You tell the receptionist that you require a massage. They either have a helicopter massage or a silky touch massage. They keep changing between the two on the menu. You pay up there and you are ushered into a room. All the available Chinese girls are lined up. You choose your pick and others leave. You are given a shower by the girl. She showers with you. She then gives you a very sensual massage with herbs and the package also includes a tongue massage with milk applied on your body. And if the helicopter massage is what's on offer, then the girl goes upside down hanging from a makeshift swing and gives a blow job as she hangs upside down in an acrobatic fashion. She then gets down and let's you fuck her they way you want. It's 90 minutes of sensual pleasure. Allgirls that I have taken, have done justice by ensuring the 90 minutes tge time that we are there is value for money. The girl leaves only after 90 minutes and the entire process takes entire 90 minutes.

I have been to 7th floor a couple of times. Both times the girls wanted to leave after the first pop, which is normally over in 15 to 20 minutes.

I tried the 5th floor and after my experience there, I stopped venturing to the 7th floor. Hope you feel the same.

Cheers.

It seems that ISG was blocked both by Favehotel Pasar Baru and initially also by my hotel here in Bandung.

Reports will therefore be delayed (due to commitments so far only 1 x classification & 1 x Kimocho anyways), but since it is currently working and in case I don't get the issues again in Artotel:

If any one is interested in Meeting up Either tomorrow evening or possibly on Friday (I have a Date during the day, but may be interested to follow up in the evening), please drop me a pm (and hold your thumbs that Artotel has a lenient Internet policy).

Focus would rather be on bars / clubs, preferably in the north (e. G. Malioboro? Golden crown?) Please feel free to drop me a pm.

Best Regards.

Thommy.

All right, who is paying USD 300.00 for one night to the Jakartan WGs? While talking to a woman on DIA she tells me that her friend was paid USD 300.00 for one night as she saw it in her purse. They go clubbing / partying maybe at bars too. Is this the new hell pussy all nighter in Jakarta and which girls command that so that I can avoid them and where?

[QUOTE=LifeIsABeach;1796521]All right, who is paying USD 300.00 for one night to the Jakartan WGs? While talking to a woman on DIA she tells me that her friend was paid USD 300.00 for one night as she saw it in her purse. They go clubbing / partying maybe at bars too. Is this the new hell pussy all nighter in Jakarta and which girls command that so that I can avoid them and where?[/QUOTE]There are always going to be guys like that who way overpay. But the girls know damn well that's a rare occasion. That is not their going rate.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1796537]There are always going to be guys like that who way overpay. But the girls know damn well that's a rare occasion. That is not their going rate.[/QUOTE]I was in Jakarta two months ago and met a 22 year old at CJ's, named Intan. First night, just got her number.

Second night we started from dinner to bar and clubbing and had a blast. Eventually ended up in my place.

She spent the night and stayed with me till the early afternoon without mentioning money at all.

I gave her 1. 3 M when she was leaving. No complaints at all. Met her couple more times afterwards. Same story.

We just clicked. If there is no chemistry as the girls there are somewhat selective, just move on to the next one instead of overpaying.

Different countries, different traditions. Do people wear shorts during the days in the hot weather or still have to wear trousers? I do not want to look out of place. Plus, are there restrictions on the dress code during the day at mongering and sight seeing places like only pants, no shorts even in hot weather? Thanks for your help.

[QUOTE=LifeIsABeach;1797810]Different countries, different traditions. Do people wear shorts during the days in the hot weather or still have to wear trousers? I do not want to look out of place. Plus, are there restrictions on the dress code during the day at mongering and sight seeing places like only pants, no shorts even in hot weather? Thanks for your help.[/QUOTE]If you are visiting a club. Any club, then the dress code applies.

[QUOTE=LifeIsABeach;1797810]Different countries, different traditions. Do people wear shorts during the days in the hot weather or still have to wear trousers? I do not want to look out of place. Plus, are there restrictions on the dress code during the day at mongering and sight seeing places like only pants, no shorts even in hot weather? Thanks for your help.[/QUOTE]It is nearly always advisable to wear (lightweight) long trousers wherever you go. One reason is that you're less vulnerable to mosquitos and other vermin. The other reason is that people will not look down on you, even though you're (I presume) white.

In Indonesia only workmen and some tourists wear short trousers. As soon as an Indonesian reaches any sort of professional level, they switch to long trousers. Even the office boy at my company's local office wears long trousers. Curiously enough, jackets with short sleeves are generally accepted, although batik long sleeve is preferred for official occasions.

Koperen Karel,

I always appreciate your postings. I thought you could update on the recent police raid on Dees Place in Blok M, unfortunately drugs were found and the premises were open after 2 am. It may be that the local constabulary are forced to set an example and close it down temporarily.

As you have an interest in the venue and rate it highly I was wondering if you could enlighten us further.

PM for anyone requiring more info.

Tambora

Hi!

I been to Jakarta recently and have dropped message through wechat by their "friend radar service". I am fortunate to have reply from nice chick, obvious it's paid but it's worthy. Hope my review will help my reader.

Getting back to actual conversations about mongering, this Sunday I went to the place that had that Jupe look alike. I went there special for her, but it seems she's not working there anymore. I have to say I was disappointed, and I didn't see any other girls there I liked so I went elsewhere. I wish I'd have gotten her number.

On another topic, it seems Kings Cross has raised it's price now to a million rupiah. What the hell? It was 350 k just a year ago. There are some stunners there without a doubt, but I'd prefer to go to Malioboro for that price.

[QUOTE=Engbhave;1798410]Hi!

I been to Jakarta recently and have dropped message through wechat by their "friend radar service". I am fortunate to have reply from nice chick, obvious it's paid but it's worthy. Hope my review will help my reader.[/QUOTE]I've done that and it was a scam. Different girls than the photo's showed up and the only real thing was their overly high prices.

[QUOTE=KoperenKarel;1798577]I will WhatsApp some of the girls. Replies will follow.[/QUOTE]On their Facebook page there is an announcement (19 hours old) of the ladies pool tournament.

[QUOTE=KoperenKarel;1798983]On their Facebook page there is an announcement (19 hours old) of the ladies pool tournament.[/QUOTE]Is it true they are going to rename D's place to DD's place in honor of your....figure?

[QUOTE=KoperenKarel;1798983]On their Facebook page there is an announcement (19 hours old) of the ladies pool tournament.[/QUOTE]
I received a WhatsApp message frome one of the dancers confirming that the bar is open as normal.

If your going to only monger I would say Thailand, Philippines is better. However if you are in 30's-50 like GF Exp, kissing, BBBJ, tight pussy and possible day game, then you might like Indonesia better (FYI I haven't been to Philippines yet).

I did not like Bats girls asking for 2. 5 kuta short time because she told me others have payed that. Top gun seemed to have as many good looking girls younger and many for cheaper. There are some stunners that are stubborn and will not budge from there 1.5 kuta or 1 kuta price and would rather go home alone a few nights in a row than to take less. I would go for the girls that were hot enough and could take home 500 long time and short time, sometime a little more 600-700 plus taxi. I don't think its possible even with less attractive one to go for less than 400. If they go for less, maybe they would be old ugly looking. I did take a couple freebies but that's a later story.

Don't make the mistake of buying the girl a cocktail 10 us dollars, before you negotiate (I'm glad I did not buy her friend a drink also) There was no deal, she did not want to give me a price no matter how much I insisted, she wanted me to through out a crazy price, finally I said 500 short time thinking she would counter around 7 or 8 but she turned her back on me a called me a because word after I had just bought her a drink, so I got her / my drink and dumped it Ha ha since I paid for it. OK no deal but don't be a ***** about it. What are you saving if you keep buying any girl you talk to drinks. I got good at it where I ask to negotiate a deal before they ask me to buy them a drink, and if they asked, I would say first lets make a deal then I buy you a drink. If they acted bitchy, then maybe its not the girl you want to take home. If deal was not made, sometimes they would look for me later trying to cut a deal. I bought bottles a couple of times and did not mind sharing while negotiating, but I hold the cards at that point. I did not get to hotel Mulia which I hear its great on weds. I don't mind sometimes throwing 1 kuta down on a hot stunner if I feel I will have a good time. I also went to some massage parlors. But that will be on my next post.

[BLUE]Greetings Everyone,

I have cleaned up this thread by deleting a number of pointless exchanges.

If you find that you own post was inadvertently deleted, please don't take it personally.

No let's get back to the subject of getting laid.

Thanks,

Jax[/BLUE]

Hello Jakarta mongers.

Have a one-day stopover in Jakarta on Tuesday night but I get in quite late. 9. 30 pm arrival so I guess it will be pushing midnight by the time I arrive at my hotel. I've been RTFFing but can't find much information about what options there are at that time. This is my first time in your city and so I'd just like a taste of what the scene is like here. Any info appreciated. PM if you like. Currently, I'm planning to stay at the All Seasons Tharmin but could easily switch to another hotel if advised.

TM.

[QUOTE=LuigiScore;1802123]If your going to only monger I would say Thailand, Philippines is better. However if you are in 30's-50 like GF Exp, kissing, BBBJ, tight pussy and possible day game, then you might like Indonesia better (FYI I haven't been to Philippines yet).

I did not like Bats girls asking for 2. 5 kuta short time because she told me others have payed that. Top gun seemed to have as many good looking girls younger and many for cheaper. There are some stunners that are stubborn and will not budge from there 1.5 kuta or 1 kuta price and would rather go home alone a few nights in a row than to take less. I would go for the girls that were hot enough and could take home 500 long time and short time, sometime a little more 600-700 plus taxi. I don't think its possible even with less attractive one to go for less than 400. If they go for less, maybe they would be old ugly looking. I did take a couple freebies but that's a later story.

Don't make the mistake of buying the girl a cocktail 10 us dollars, before you negotiate (I'm glad I did not buy her friend a drink also) There was no deal, she did not want to give me a price no matter how much I insisted, she wanted me to through out a crazy price, finally I said 500 short time thinking she would counter around 7 or 8 but she turned her back on me a called me a because word after I had just bought her a drink, so I got her / my drink and dumped it Ha ha since I paid for it. OK no deal but don't be a ***** about it. What are you saving if you keep buying any girl you talk to drinks. I got good at it where I ask to negotiate a deal before they ask me to buy them a drink, and if they asked, I would say first lets make a deal then I buy you a drink. If they acted bitchy, then maybe its not the girl you want to take home. If deal was not made, sometimes they would look for me later trying to cut a deal. I bought bottles a couple of times and did not mind sharing while negotiating, but I hold the cards at that point. I did not get to hotel Mulia which I hear its great on weds. I don't mind sometimes throwing 1 kuta down on a hot stunner if I feel I will have a good time. I also went to some massage parlors. But that will be on my next post.[/QUOTE]With all due respect a few points on the FR:

1. The term is JUTA (Million is Bahasa). Not kuta. Kuta is a place is Bali.

2. The prices you mention - 1 mn for a hot stunner giving you a a good time. Not going to happen. I really do not know what you consider as a stunner, but a little RTFF Will tell you a few things about places & pricing.

3. A deal before a drink? IMHO a drink is a conversation starter, a social lubricant. So the price of a drink is really a conversation tax. There is no escaping it if you intend to pick girls at a club, any club.

4. The opening lines comparing Thailand & Indonesia. Mate, I did not get it at all. What are you trying to say? "GF Exp, kissing, BBBJ, tight pussy and possible day game" IS part of the mongering.

5. It is a good thing you did not go to Mulia, yet. You might get a stroke hearing the prices. A drink alone can cost you 200 K IDR.

Finally, one question for you. Did you get laid yet in Jakarta?

[QUOTE=Trawlerman;1802478]Hello Jakarta mongers.

Have a one-day stopover in Jakarta on Tuesday night but I get in quite late. 9. 30 pm arrival so I guess it will be pushing midnight by the time I arrive at my hotel. I've been RTFFing but can't find much information about what options there are at that time. This is my first time in your city and so I'd just like a taste of what the scene is like here. Any info appreciated. PM if you like. Currently, I'm planning to stay at the All Seasons Tharmin but could easily switch to another hotel if advised.

TM.[/QUOTE]Freelancer bars start kicking at midnight.

Your close to the Shang, so options there.

Your about 15 mins to Kota area, with lots of options there.

If your main question is. What's available after midnight? Then just about everything on this list is, except some massage places will close around then.

[QUOTE=MasBule;1802497]Freelancer bars start kicking at midnight.

Your close to the Shang, so options there.

Your about 15 mins to Kota area, with lots of options there.

If your main question is. What's available after midnight? Then just about everything on this list is, except some massage places will close around then.[/QUOTE]Thank you. Just what I needed to hear.

TM.

[QUOTE=Trawlerman;1802478]Hello Jakarta mongers.

Have a one-day stopover in Jakarta on Tuesday night but I get in quite late. 9. 30 pm arrival so I guess it will be pushing midnight by the time I arrive at my hotel. I've been RTFFing but can't find much information about what options there are at that time. This is my first time in your city and so I'd just like a taste of what the scene is like here. Any info appreciated. PM if you like. Currently, I'm planning to stay at the All Seasons Tharmin but could easily switch to another hotel if advised.

TM.[/QUOTE]One thing I'll add to what has already been posted is assuming you do arrive at 9:30 pm, you likely will be at your hotel closer to 11 pm than midnight, assuming you run like a bat out of hell from the plane to immigration (to avoid long immigration lines). or at least walk fast. The traffic shouldn't be too bad at that time of night, and traffic is one of the things that can really slow things down.

On the other hand, if a number of planes land just before yours, you might still end up on a long line at immigration, which could add some time before reaching your final destination.

One other thing is although some people prefer the Blue Bird or Express taxis to Silver Birds for reasons of cost (although a Silver Bird will not cost more than about $25 US to get you to your hotel), typically there are shorter lines for the Silver Birds, and besides you might prefer to go to your destination in a Mercedes than a lesser car. Just look for the Silver Bird sign (near the curb) as you leave immigration and the terminal. I believe it will be towards your left as you leave the terminal (at least based on the door I exit from).

Definitely Silverbird. Why waste time and its not that much money? Especially after a long flight you will appreciate the comfort as you get stuck in Jakarta traffic.

[QUOTE=LAGuy5;1802520]One thing I'll add to what has already been posted is assuming you do arrive at 9:30 pm, you likely will be at your hotel closer to 11 pm than midnight, assuming you run like a bat out of hell from the plane to immigration (to avoid long immigration lines). or at least walk fast. The traffic shouldn't be too bad at that time of night, and traffic is one of the things that can really slow things down.
[/QUOTE]Unless you like making an idiot out of yourself, I wouldn't run anywhere at all at Jakarta Airport. I am usually through immigration in a matter of seconds (Sapphire) and if I have check-in luggage I am still waiting at the carousel right next to the fools who were elbowing everyone trying to get to immigration as quick as possible. You might save 5 or 10 minutes at immigration if you don't have check-in luggage, but is it really worth it?

Long lines at the Bluebird / Express stand at arrivals? Take the elevator 1 floor up and get in a bluebird that has just dropped off departing passengers. Better yet, order an Uber of which there are always plenty around any of the terminals.

[QUOTE=HihiSter;1802685]Unless you like making an idiot out of yourself, I wouldn't run anywhere at all at Jakarta Airport. I am usually through immigration in a matter of seconds (Sapphire) and if I have check-in luggage I am still waiting at the carousel right next to the fools who were elbowing everyone trying to get to immigration as quick as possible. You might save 5 or 10 minutes at immigration if you don't have check-in luggage, but is it really worth it?

Long lines at the Bluebird / Express stand at arrivals? Take the elevator 1 floor up and get in a bluebird that has just dropped off departing passengers. Better yet, order an Uber of which there are always plenty around any of the terminals.[/QUOTE]Well I suppose if one hires a facilitator that is reliable (I assume that is what Sapphire is) one might not have to run to immigration. However, as one who doesn't hire a facilitator on the grounds it is unnecessary and wasteful spending, I can say on some occasions I have run to immigration, and was really glad I did as within a couple of minutes there were around 200 people in line behind me. This will depend though on which airline you fly; for example if you arrive on a Japanese airline, the vast majority of the passengers will enter as non-resident foreigners and therefore will go to the same line as most other foreigners will.

On those few occasions where there was another airplane or two that arrived before me, my luggage was already at the baggage carousel when I finally made it there. On the other hand, when I have gotten through immigration quickly, typically I have only had to wait five or ten minutes before my luggage arrived. Then again, I always fly business class so my luggage is usually among the first on the luggage carousel. No need to wait long for it.

But thanks for pointing out that anyone who runs to immigration so as to avoid the possibility of waiting on a long immigration line is making an idiot of themselves. Very constructive comment that has little merit if one is on a tight schedule. And if you want to talk about making an idiot of yourself (as you apparently do), claiming that people elbow you to get to immigration quickly certainly fits the bill; it might come as a surprise to you but walking fast or even running to immigration does not constitute "elbowing." There is plenty of room at the Jakarta airport to walk fast or run without colliding with others.

[QUOTE=LAGuy5;1802732]Well I suppose if one hires a facilitator that is reliable (I assume that is what Sapphire is) one might not have to run to immigration. However, as one who doesn't hire a facilitator on the grounds it is unnecessary and wasteful spending, I can say on some occasions I have run to immigration, and was really glad I did as within a couple of minutes there were around 200 people in line behind me. This will depend though on which airline you fly; for example if you arrive on a Japanese airline, the vast majority of the passengers will enter as non-resident foreigners and therefore will go to the same line as most other foreigners will.

On those few occasions where there was another airplane or two that arrived before me, my luggage was already at the baggage carousel when I finally made it there. On the other hand, when I have gotten through immigration quickly, typically I have only had to wait five or ten minutes before my luggage arrived. Then again, I always fly business class so my luggage is usually among the first on the luggage carousel. No need to wait long for it.

But thanks for pointing out that anyone who runs to immigration so as to avoid the possibility of waiting on a long immigration line is making an idiot of themselves. Very constructive comment that has little merit if one is on a tight schedule. And if you want to talk about making an idiot of yourself (as you apparently do), claiming that people elbow you to get to immigration quickly certainly fits the bill; it might come as a surprise to you but walking fast or even running to immigration does not constitute "elbowing." There is plenty of room at the Jakarta airport to walk fast or run without colliding with others.[/QUOTE]Saphire are the automatic immigration gates from the department of immigration, I do not hire any facilitators who use corruption as means to get you through fast.

Perhaps you're always lucky; I flew in on SQ business literally last week, landed ahead of schedule at 22:20, was through immigration by 22:35 (short taxi) and waited for my 1 checked luggage with priority tags till 23:20 (same waiting time as when I flew in on Garuda business with platinum status 3 weeks or so earlier), out through customs a few minutes later. I did literally get elbowed on the travelator by a running idiot despite walking on it with a normal speed, not the first time that that happened either.

My point is, in all of my travels in and out of Jakarta I have never seen the lines long enough to warrant any running from the plane. Even when I arrived last week when 6 flights (EK, EY, CX, MH, SQ and OZ) all landed within about 30 minutes from each other the lines were very reasonable and fast enough. We were the last flight to land and the running idiot who elbowed me from my flight joined me at the carousel about 10 minutes after I arrived there. To me saving 10 minutes is definitely not worth making a mad dash to immigration. Perhaps it is to you, each to his own.

If those 10 minutes, or be it 30 minutes, are going to make or break your business deal of a lifetime perhaps it was a better idea to simply take an earlier flight from the get-go. If it simply means you can start whoring 10 minutes earlier I seriously question your life choices. What would happen to your oh so tight schedule if your flight got delayed I wonder.

[QUOTE=HihiSter;1802759]Saphire are the automatic immigration gates from the department of immigration, I do not hire any facilitators who use corruption as means to get you through fast.

Perhaps you're always lucky; I flew in on SQ business literally last week, landed ahead of schedule at 22:20, was through immigration by 22:35 (short taxi) and waited for my 1 checked luggage with priority tags till 23:20 (same waiting time as when I flew in on Garuda business with platinum status 3 weeks or so earlier), out through customs a few minutes later. I did literally get elbowed on the travelator by a running idiot despite walking on it with a normal speed, not the first time that that happened either.

My point is, in all of my travels in and out of Jakarta I have never seen the lines long enough to warrant any running from the plane. Even when I arrived last week when 6 flights (EK, EY, CX, MH, SQ and OZ) all landed within about 30 minutes from each other the lines were very reasonable and fast enough. We were the last flight to land and the running idiot who elbowed me from my flight joined me at the carousel about 10 minutes after I arrived there. To me saving 10 minutes is definitely not worth making a mad dash to immigration. Perhaps it is to you, each to his own.

If those 10 minutes, or be it 30 minutes, are going to make or break your business deal of a lifetime perhaps it was a better idea to simply take an earlier flight from the get-go. If it simply means you can start whoring 10 minutes earlier I seriously question your life choices. What would happen to your oh so tight schedule if your flight got delayed I wonder.[/QUOTE]First off a foreigner who is not resident does not normally have access to any automatic immigration gates in Jakarta. Perhaps there are exceptions but I am unaware of any. So, it seems your citing of Sapphire is wholly irrelevant to this discussion which started with an inquiry from a foreigner who has never been in Jakarta before.

Second, although not the norm, there have been occasions where I have had to wait in an immigration line in Jakarta that took more than 30 minutes. The last time I entered Jakarta it took about ten minutes, but would have taken much longer if I had dawdled with the rest of the folks on the airplane while walking to the foreigner non-resident immigration lines.

If you are suggesting it typically takes you about an hour before you get your luggage in Jakarta, particularly with priority tags, you must be the world's biggest loser as that is not the norm at all; one or two contrary examples does not change that waiting that long is very unusual. Then again you state during your last such instance your flight was the last of six to land within a period of 30 minutes; not difficult to connect the dots, at least not for most.

As to your gratuitous comments about 30 minutes in line breaking a "business deal of a lifetime" or "whoring" and your serious questioning of my life choices, my life choices include not waiting for potentially an additional 30 minutes in line if walking fast for three or four minutes (or running, frankly more like a slow jog) can change that to five or ten minutes or less. And don't forget the advice I was giving was to someone who is going to be in Jakarta for only one night, and who is concerned about whether he will reach his hotel in time to do some mongering that night.

Why does there always seem to be such nastiness and pettiness in the Jakarta forum? I was only trying to be helpful to someone who is spending a single night in Jakarta and is concerned whether he will have enough time for any entertainment (and the OP previously pm'ed me to thank me for that). But then I get posts like #10475 and #10477, in which terms like "idiot" and "fools" are bandied about along with comments questioning my life choices solely because I like to get to the immigration line as quickly as possible to avoid waiting long in line? Seriously? It really is shameful.

[QUOTE=LAGuy5;1802892]First off a foreigner who is not resident does not normally have access to any automatic immigration gates in Jakarta. Perhaps there are exceptions but I am unaware of any. So, it seems your citing of Sapphire is wholly irrelevant to this discussion which started with an inquiry from a foreigner who has never been in Jakarta before.

Second, although not the norm, there have been occasions where I have had to wait in an immigration line in Jakarta that took more than 30 minutes. The last time I entered Jakarta it took about ten minutes, but would have taken much longer if I had dawdled with the rest of the folks on the airplane while walking to the foreigner non-resident immigration lines.

If you are suggesting it typically takes you about an hour before you get your luggage in Jakarta, particularly with priority tags, you must be the world's biggest loser as that is not the norm at all; one or two contrary examples does not change that waiting that long is very unusual. Then again you state during your last such instance your flight was the last of six to land within a period of 30 minutes; not difficult to connect the dots, at least not for most.

As to your gratuitous comments about 30 minutes in line breaking a "business deal of a lifetime" or "whoring" and your serious questioning of my life choices, my life choices include not waiting for potentially an additional 30 minutes in line if walking fast for three or four minutes (or running, frankly more like a slow jog) can change that to five or ten minutes or less. And don't forget the advice I was giving was to someone who is going to be in Jakarta for only one night, and who is concerned about whether he will reach his hotel in time to do some mongering that night.

Why does there always seem to be such nastiness and pettiness in the Jakarta forum? I was only trying to be helpful to someone who is spending a single night in Jakarta and is concerned whether he will have enough time for any entertainment (and the OP previously pm'ed me to thank me for that). But then I get posts like #10475 and #10477, in which terms like "idiot" and "fools" are bandied about along with comments questioning my life choices solely because I like to get to the immigration line as quickly as possible to avoid waiting long in line? Seriously? It really is shameful.[/QUOTE]1. I was giving general information, which might be useful for other reasons. I was not aware that we had to keep it to 1 discussion at all times, my apologies mister.

2. I fail to see how waiting for something that is not within my control makes me a loser, especially as an entire plane worth of passengers is waiting there right with me. I simply stated a facts about previous experiences, something which could be relevant to the guy who's coming to Jakarta for 1 night. The point still is that no matter how far you run, if there are multiple flights landing at the same time your luggage could be delayed, it could take you another hour to get through customs, they could select you for secondary screening and many many other options which prevent you from being on your way.

3. It took me 1 hour and a few minutes from doors open till in my car, I hardly see how that constitutes calling me "the worlds biggest loser".

The reason why you seem to be experiencing "nastiness and pettiness" over here seems to be something of your own doing. I simply stated my opinion and you choose to personally attack me on that. No wonder you get to experience nastiness.

To the guy who is only staying in Jakarta for one night, the one who originally asked and all others reading this in the future; do whatever you like and feel comfortable with. It really doesn't matter that much what time you get on your way; this is Jakarta and hookers will be available any time of the night.

[QUOTE=HihiSter;1802941]1. I was giving general information, which might be useful for other reasons. I was not aware that we had to keep it to 1 discussion at all times, my apologies mister.

2. I fail to see how waiting for something that is not within my control makes me a loser, especially as an entire plane worth of passengers is waiting there right with me. I simply stated a facts about previous experiences, something which could be relevant to the guy who's coming to Jakarta for 1 night. The point still is that no matter how far you run, if there are multiple flights landing at the same time your luggage could be delayed, it could take you another hour to get through customs, they could select you for secondary screening and many many other options which prevent you from being on your way.

3. It took me 1 hour and a few minutes from doors open till in my car, I hardly see how that constitutes calling me "the worlds biggest loser".

The reason why you seem to be experiencing "nastiness and pettiness" over here seems to be something of your own doing. I simply stated my opinion and you choose to personally attack me on that. No wonder you get to experience nastiness.

To the guy who is only staying in Jakarta for one night, the one who originally asked and all others reading this in the future; do whatever you like and feel comfortable with. It really doesn't matter that much what time you get on your way; this is Jakarta and hookers will be available any time of the night.[/QUOTE]Sir, you are the one who first started hurling epithets like "idiot" here, so your sanctimonious nonsense is just that.

Also, don't grossly mischaracterize what I said. What I stated was, "If you are suggesting it typically takes you about an hour before you get your luggage in Jakarta, particularly with priority tags, you must be the world's biggest loser as that is not the norm at all." I did not in any way state that based on this happening to you once or twice that made you the world's biggest loser. But I was casting doubt on whether one-hour waits for luggage at the Jakarta airport are the norm. Sorry the obvious wasn't obvious to you.

[QUOTE=LAGuy5;1802958]Sir, you are the one who first started hurling epithets like "idiot" here, so your sanctimonious nonsense is just that.

Also, don't grossly mischaracterize what I said. What I stated was, "If you are suggesting it typically takes you about an hour before you get your luggage in Jakarta, particularly with priority tags, you must be the world's biggest loser as that is not the norm at all." I did not in any way state that based on this happening to you once or twice that made you the world's biggest loser. But I was casting doubt on whether one-hour waits for luggage at the Jakarta airport are the norm. Sorry the obvious wasn't obvious to you.[/QUOTE]Let's agree to disagree and leave it at this.

Let me know if you're ever in Jakarta, I'd happily buy you a beer.

[QUOTE=LAGuy5;1802732]one might not have to run to immigration. However, as one who doesn't hire a facilitator on the grounds it is unnecessary and wasteful spending, I can say on some occasions I have run to immigration, and was really glad I did as within a couple of minutes there were around 200 people in line behind me. n


But thanks for pointing out that anyone who runs to immigration so as to avoid the possibility of waiting on a long immigration line is making an idiot of themselves. but walking fast or even running to immigration." There is plenty of room at the Jakarta airport to walk fast or run without colliding with others.[/QUOTE]Regular travellers know which airports require walking normally and walking "briskly".

Jakarta definitely briskly.

Manila same.

Bangkok same.

HK. If you have HK ID or ASEAN or Frequent visitor card no need. But if no such cards, walk as briskly as you can.

Tokyo. Take your time.

Singapore. Walk as leisurely as you like.

Heathrow. Briskly will help.

LAX. Lines whether you walk fast or not.

Beijing Capital. Brisk is usually better.

Shanghai. Brisk.

Thankfully, many passengers totally dawdle which helps those of us who do walk faster than others.

And all this is good when travelling alone. When travelling with a GF, no matter from what race, background, socio economic group, they always seem to dawdle and so we get stuck at the back of the lines at all the above mentioned airports.

In 20 plus years of ISG this is first time I've seen a pissing contest on whether to walk faster or slower in airports. The ability of two people here to start a fight about any subject under the sun never ceases to amaze.

[QUOTE=HihiSter;1802965]Let's agree to disagree and leave it at this.

Let me know if you're ever in Jakarta, I'd happily buy you a beer.[/QUOTE]Okay, thanks. I guess all is well that ends well.

One of the great pleasures of this board in previous years was the great wealth of information that was freely traded back and forth in an easygoing, frequently very humourous manner.

It appears to me that an awful air of bitchiness and backbiting has entered the forum over the past couple of months.

What's wrong lads? Is the beer too cold? Are the shopping malls and hotels too luxurious? Are the girls too pretty? Are there too many of them? Do you miss the cold, damp, miserable weather back home? Are you fed up about the fact that for the price of a mediocre dinner in a non-descript restaurant in the UK or US you can have an amazing night of fun and sex with a beautiful woman half your age?

I only ask because for the life of me I can't understand why so many of you seem to have quite a hair up your asses about something.

What the feck have we just seen in this page? A snarky argument between two blokes about whether you should run or walk at a brisk pace from your airplane to immigration?

Seriously? If we have reached that stage of discussion perhaps we might ask the administrator to shut this once fine site down because I frankly no longer see the point of it.

[QUOTE=Blanquiceleste;1802485]With all due respect a few points on the FR:

1. The term is JUTA (Million is Bahasa). Not kuta. Kuta is a place is Bali.

2. The prices you mention - 1 mn for a hot stunner giving you a a good time. Not going to happen. I really do not know what you consider as a stunner, but a little RTFF Will tell you a few things about places & pricing.

3. A deal before a drink? IMHO a drink is a conversation starter, a social lubricant. So the price of a drink is really a conversation tax. There is no escaping it if you intend to pick girls at a club, any club.

4. The opening lines comparing Thailand & Indonesia. Mate, I did not get it at all. What are you trying to say? "GF Exp, kissing, BBBJ, tight pussy and possible day game" IS part of the mongering.

5. It is a good thing you did not go to Mulia, yet. You might get a stroke hearing the prices. A drink alone can cost you 200 K IDR.

Finally, one question for you. Did you get laid yet in Jakarta?[/QUOTE]Yes, I got laid! I paid for it and got it for free. Comparing Thailand to Indonesia: You are more likely to hook up with a non-pro in.

Indonesia than in Thailand. However mongering in Jakarta can be time consuming because of traffic, where as Phil / Thai are more concentrated in areas which are easier to get around (my opinion) I could be wrong because I did not spend that much time in North Jakarta because I like the freelance bar seen.

I talked to many girls without buying them a drink, its just good conversation. I understand its a social lubricant, but if I'm not sure about their attitude / personality I will just try to negotiate first then buy them a drink, Kind of like they earned it. Sometimes I will really like a girl just by her demeanor and do not mind buying her a drink first, but those girls alot times won't ask, but I will.

Offer. It's all relative and I don't approach the girls all the same way. I just don't think as soon as you go up to a girl that your not to sure of, and the first thing she wants is a drink to lock you in (kind of not sociable but taking advantage) I just presented a different way of approaching a situation that worked for me. F. why. I I took two pro's home for free on the same night and I did not buy them a drink. Maybe because they were drunk already Ha Ha. If you are really rich then don't follow my approach.

Whats a Stunner? Everybody taste is different, but I paid 1 juta for a stunner and had a good ST (Bats) and paid between 500-700 plus taxi in Top Gun for slender young and sometimes very near stunner. Keep in mind I rather go home with a good looking lady with a nice attitude, than a ***** stunner that will not give you a good time. If you don't mind me asking, what do you usually pay? How much are the girls at Mulia for ST / LT.

Cheers Lad!

I concur with Hilo. Wow there are some argumentative people on here. I'd thought there would be better things to do in Jakarta than bicker online. Maybe you are doing it in traffic in yet another jam to fill in time and take out your anguish. Myself, I just get a feeling like a kid heading off to the candy shop, but each to their own.

For sure, some things have deteriorated in recent years, with the exception of price which has massively escalated! Funnily enough, only in areas that use English as the main language. Perhaps it is because of the argumentative types dropping by now. Local areas, pricing has seemingly barely moved over a long time. Regardless, I always seem to find a happy medium between price, service, inflation and Forex effects when there. It's just not like shooting fish in a barrel anymore. They've just upped the difficulty to a small pond.

It is easy on here to pick the residents. Strangely they seem to be the ones being argued at. And never around posting on a Friday or Saturday night Jakarta time. Why, it's like you guys have something better to do. What on earth could it be?

BTW my experience in waiting for bags in Jakarta is skewed heavily towards Hihister's in recent years. If you see them on the carousel within half an hour of touchdown, you're doing extremely well.

[QUOTE=Hilo77;1803026]One of the great pleasures of this board in previous years was the great wealth of information that was freely traded back and forth in an easygoing, frequently very humourous manner.[/QUOTE]The long time members such as yourself are a great asset to the board and why it's been so excellent for so many years. I'm not sure Rev ever made it to this site, but his site was great fun for a while and I think more conducive to humorous banter. Do you know whatever happened to him?

[QUOTE=HungMan1808;1803120]It is easy on here to pick the residents. Strangely they seem to be the ones being argued at. And never around posting on a Friday or Saturday night Jakarta time. Why, it's like you guys have something better to do. What on earth could it be?[/QUOTE]To the extent you are referring to the recent exchange between me and Hihister, who apparently is a resident, I take offense at your comment. My initial post #10473 was not argumentative at all, it was meant to be helpful and indeed I got a private mail thanking me for it. If someone wanted to respectfully disagree with what I stated in that post, that would have been fine and could have generated a reasonable discussion. Or people could have just taken my post as one's opinion. But that is not how things proceeded although given Hihisster and I made peace in the end, I am not so comfortable with this thing continuing and question why you felt compelled to raise the issue in the manner you did.

As to Hilo77's comment about how things have gotten rather bad in the Jakarta forum I could not agree more although with one caveat. It seems to me Hilo77 is idealizing things from the past a bit. The recent flame war that had to be removed by Jackson was a virtual repeat of one that occurred in early to mid-October 2014 involving most of the same people and content (although I was a bystander then). And from what I can glean that one was a repeat of earlier exchanges of ridiculous flames by many of the same people.

Perhaps Hilo77 is correct that if this sort of thing doesn't stop, the Jakarta board should just be shut down. It's not worth contributing in this environment.

[QUOTE=LuigiScore;1803055]
Whats a Stunner? Everybody taste is different, but I paid 1 juta for a stunner and had a good ST (Bats) and paid between 500-700 plus taxi in Top Gun for slender young and sometimes very near stunner. Keep in mind I rather go home with a good looking lady with a nice attitude, than a ***** stunner that will not give you a good time. If you don't mind me asking, what do you usually pay? How much are the girls at Mulia for ST / LT.
[/QUOTE]This is a straw man argument. No one wants to go home with a good looking girl with a bad attitude. My goal is to find really good looking girls (stunners) with good attitudes that want to show me a good time. To that end I have found many smoking hot young girls at Malioboro and CJ's, my two favorite places in Jakarta, that provide great service and give me what I want. Of course I would also prefer not to spend more than I have to in order to achieve my stated goals. LOL. The FL's at CJ's were asking 2,000,000 for LT when I was last there in March. Not cheap by any means, but there is a large selection of very good looking girls to choose from especially on Wednesday (ladies night) through Saturday night. Check it out.

[QUOTE=LuigiScore;1803055]Yes, I got laid!

If you don't mind me asking, what do you usually pay? How much are the girls at Mulia for ST / LT.

Cheers Lad![/QUOTE]Good on you mate. IMHO the prices around the popular clubs are in the range of 2 million IDR. Classic is the only place I know where prices are still in the 1 million (or less) range. I have never paid less than 2 million at CJ.

Cheers to you too, have fun!

[QUOTE=HungMan1808;1803120][B]price [/B]which has massively [B]escalated[/B]! Funnily enough, only in areas that use English as the main language. Perhaps it is because of the argumentative types dropping by now[/QUOTE]The only "English" places I am aware of where price has escalated in the last year are King's Cross and CJ's.

If you've been to King's Cross, you'll note the clientele is mostly local. The price hike may be due to other factors (they are owned by Malioboro group).

The prices at CJ's are set by the ladies themselves, and thus generally obey the market laws of supply and demand. A couple years ago you could be assured a companion from CJ's for no more than 1 Million overnight. Now that figure has raised to 2 Million because of the "demand" (I. E. Pooner overpayment). We have only ourselves to blame for inflating this amount as it seems many guys are happy to pay 2 Million. In my 3 times at CJ's, I've never paid over 1 Million, and have only seen perhaps 2-3 ladies I consider worthy of the 2 Million standard asking price.

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;1803171]This is a straw man argument. No one wants to go home with a good looking girl with a bad attitude. My goal is to find really good looking girls (stunners) with good attitudes that want to show me a good time. To that end I have found many smoking hot young girls at Malioboro and CJ's, my two favorite places in Jakarta, that provide great service and give me what I want. Of course I would also prefer not to spend more than I have to in order to achieve my stated goals. LOL. The FL's at CJ's were asking 2,000,000 for LT when I was last there in March. Not cheap by any means, but there is a large selection of very good looking girls to choose from especially on Wednesday (ladies night) through Saturday night. Check it out.[/QUOTE]Not cheap, but compared to an all nighter in USA, not bad. At least it's not ST like a couple girls wanted at bats. All that matters that you had a good time.

I will check it out Thanks!

[QUOTE=Blanquiceleste;1803247]Good on you mate. IMHO the prices around the popular clubs are in the range of 2 million IDR. Classic is the only place I know where prices are still in the 1 million (or less) range. I have never paid less than 2 million at CJ.

Cheers to you too, have fun![/QUOTE]Cheap sex can be found in brothels pretty much all over Jakarta. There are hundreds of places with prices similar to Classic that are brothels. Classic just happens to be the biggest and nicest place like that where they actually have a very cheap price and very nice clean rooms. I think Classic is still only 350 k, so it's far less than 1 million. Hotel Travel is another huge place with over 100 girls at 350 k per hour, but the rooms are not as nice as the ones at Classic. There are so many other smaller places around town that offer the exact same sex in a less nice room for the same price (or even less).

The price difference comes into play when you are dealing with "free lancers". Especially free lancers who speak some English. You can get free lancers from the streets just driving around at night if you want. I think they are 500 k, but I've never taken one. You can still get a free lancer from Blok M for 500 k, but the standard price is 700 k there. 1 million in Blok M is a stretch, but I've paid it for a girl that really stood out and there wasn't any girl even close to that one that night. The standard price at CJs and BATS (all free lancers) is 1. 5 million. You can get them for 1 million if they aren't a high demand girl or at closing time. I've never paid any girl from those places 2 million rupiah, but I have stood near guys and overheard their negotiations where they agree to 2 or even 3 million, so I know it is happening. I did see a girl in CJs recently who stood out like a sore thumb. In all my years of going to those bars, she is the best I have ever seen. She was as close to a 10 as anything I have ever seen in Jakarta, but I only saw her that one night. She was already accompanied for the night, so I am not sure how much the guy was paying her, but I would have gladly given that one particular stunner 2 million. The average CJs or BATS girl over 30 years old is not worth more than 1 million. There are normally from 3 to 7 young hotties that will be there any given night I would consider worth 1. 5. And that one chick was worth 2 million. Haha. (I would not be surprised if that guy was paying her more than that.).

That being said, if I negotiate 1 million and the girl absolutely rocks my world, I will be inclined to give her more as a tip. I gave a girl a 1. 5 million rupiah tip once because she was the most awesome thing in bed I'd ever taken home. She was very good looking and up for anything including dressing up in sexy outfits, photos, videos, anal, whatever, and she could give a blowjob and rim job that was amazing. We shagged the entire night. I still look back on that night fondly. I just hate being locked into giving them more than that due to initial negotiations then they are a star fish in bed. Unfortunately that girl was taken off the market very quickly and married some Korean guy.

By the way, I went to King's Cross last night. They seem to have dropped their prices again. (either that, or they were just lying to me the last time) The last time I was there, they told me all girls were 1 million rupiah. This time, they told me all the girls are 600 k. I paid 600 k for the same girl I wanted last time who wanted a million so I had refused. Stunning 19 year old with huge tits. Well worth 600 k for an hour with her. Rooms are nice there as well. There was one sexy dancer there with such a fantastically nice pussy. I could have stared at that all week.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1803145]. I'm not sure Rev ever made it to this site, but his site was great fun for a while and I think more conducive to humorous banter. Do you know whatever happened to him?[/QUOTE]He always tried to ensure his blog was not viewed as simply a sex information site and as such regular posters like you, me and Menteng sometimes had to adopt a more convivial, less of a "How much? How long" approach, which often led to the more easygoing, witty attitude that was displayed here, when knowledgeable posters like Bulai69 (now we're showing our age) also gave very considerate and helpful advice.

The last I heard of him he had come into a bit of money and had retired into a life of comfort and respectability and left behind his slightly indiscreet and disreputable past.

Anyway now that there doesn't seem to be anything other than endless backbiting going on here, it's time for the experienced posters to walk away and leave the place to the sex tourists to argue over.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1803413]

By the way, I went to King's Cross last night. They seem to have dropped their prices again. (either that, or they were just lying to me the last time) The last time I was there, they told me all girls were 1 million rupiah. This time, they told me all the girls are 600 k. I paid 600 k for the same girl I wanted last time who wanted a million so I had refused. Stunning 19 year old with huge tits. Well worth 600 k for an hour with her. Rooms are nice there as well. There was one sexy dancer there with such a fantastically nice pussy. I could have stared at that all week.[/QUOTE]I have stayed at the Grand Whiz in Kelapa Gading a few times, and just looked up Kings Cross on a map, seems walking distance. I've always brought in girls from dating sites when I stay up there (the girls always seem to live in Bekasi for some reason) but next time I think I will wander down the street and pay a visit to Kings Cross.

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Your inbox was full again, so now via the forum. I' m in Jakarta now. If you're here in the next two weeks, I'd like to meet for a drink.

Ko.

Tried out some new talent at Maribaya and D. Also re-aquainted Mellisa. Pictures tomorrow. Going out now.

Ko.

The internet giveth, and the internet taketh away.

Had an 18 year old virgin lined up to come over and be deflowered. She claimed to be a virgin, she lives a long way from Jakarta but was in town, my BS detector usually sniffs them out and I think she is the real deal. However, like her sisters, absolutely hopeless at keeping schedules. I had a several hour window of opportunity, and she suddenly went silent on the instant messenger we were using. A couple of hours went by, I called in plan be, and of course then she popped up late ready to meet. Sorry darling, too late, my dick is already tickling some tonsils. For those of you into rating scales, from the pics and cam we have done, I would only rate it about a 6/10, but I was / am willing to take one for the team in order to deflower her, so let's see what the next few days can deliver. She does not want any money, seems to come from a wealthy family.

Then heading back to the hotel today, get a hit on Badoo. Being able to see how far away you are from the girl is gold given the Jakarta traffic. This one is in it for the money. Claims to be 19, about to turn 20. Just got a message that she is in the lobby of my hotel, got to run fellas.

Slightly irritating. I'm in the Century Park hotel in Jakarta which has cabled internet with good speed in the rooms. Unfortunately this faithfully blocks sites like ISG and Hookers.nl. However, there is also wifi in the entire hotel which does not block anything. Indonesian logic or the hotel being client friendly?

I am thus able to report. See Picture thread and Jakarta thread. Happy reading.

Regards,

Ko.

So the 'hit in Badoo' I mentioned yesterday turned out to be an interesting story. Went down to the lobby to pick her up and surprise, surprise it is a different girl to the pictures. I did not want to cause a scene in the lobby so I brought her up to my room and was going to tell her she could go home empty handed for running a bait and switch on me. However once in the room, her body language and demeanor screamed newbie or non-professional.

So I started asking her a few questions, and it became clear that she was not the person I was messaging, she was quite honest with her answers, but she was unaware of the conversation I had had with "her boss". She claimed that she worked in marketing for a big name bank, but I don't believe that at all. Based on how shy she was I decided to take the plunge and go ahead with the booking. Well she turned out to be a tiger in the sack and seemed to really get into it. I've come across lots of fake moaning and pretending to be into it, and she was the opposite of that.

We had a really good shag and then she gave me a great massage. Was two hours well spent given the bait and switch at the beginning, and I might even repeat her. Got her number to cut out the middle man who she told me earns 30%. Made me wonder if it was actually one of those vitality massage services Smoothy was talking about.

[QUOTE=KoperenKarel;1804796]Slightly irritating. I'm in the Century Park hotel in Jakarta which has cabled internet with good speed in the rooms. Unfortunately this faithfully blocks sites like ISG and Hookers.nl. However, there is also wifi in the entire hotel which does not block anything. Indonesian logic or the hotel being client friendly?
[/QUOTE]Try using a VPN.

Dear Folks, Not sure this question might asked before, even though things are changing very fast and fellow mongers please provide some suggestions for taking a choice to visit either one of the location in December 2nd week.

Cheers,

I went to Pelatehan yesterday evening. Arrived at 10 and found everything dark. Listrik mati! Ever since 7 in the evening there was a power cut and D's place only had candles for lights. No AC, no dancing dancers, but surprisingly quite a lot of customers. I sat down at the bar and chatted with the dancers. At around 12:30 management gave up and allowed the dancers to go home.

I took Erna (she of the wonderful blowjob) with me and we had a pleasant night. Good kisser, excellent BJ, hesitant rimmer at first but after I told her I liked it she really went for it.

Pictures in the picture thread.

Ko.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;1805142]Try using a VPN.[/QUOTE]The wifi works 99 % of the time so that's good enough for me.

[QUOTE=LuigiScore;1803398]Not cheap, but compared to an all nighter in USA, not bad. At least it's not ST like a couple girls wanted at bats. All that matters that you had a good time.[/QUOTE]You can not compare the prices in Indonesia (or any Asian country) to a the USA Or Germany or another Western country. Our cost of living is way higher (as is the cost of poon tang).

I arrived in Jakarta shortly after midnight and surprisingly made it through Immigration and got my luggage very quickly and was on my way to my hotel. I booked a room at the Doubletree Hotel which is a relatively nice new hotel but I would not recommend it due to its poor proximity to most of the activity I was there to indulge in.

I decided that given that I was going out around 2 am that I would try out Malioboro on my first night. When I arrived the spa was closed and everything was going on in the club. As some have described, the club is sort of like a strip club with stages and a bar in the middle and with booths around the perimeter. The upstairs area is open to the downstairs and has VIP booths all along the perimeter that have curtains for additional privacy.

To my disappointment I did not find that any of the girls sitting in the booths were to my liking. At first I was afraid that Jakarta might be a bust for me then I begin to see some of the dancers and one really caught my eye. Unfortunately she was in a booth dancing for some other customer and then disappeared upstairs with him. Not seeing anyone more to my liking, I decided after about 20 minutes to go upstairs and find her. She was actually just coming out of a little VIP booth area which was curtained off. I grabbed her and took her back in the VIP booth and paid the 20 shot price for 30 minutes with her which basically consisted of a bbjcim and a few dances. I am not sure what the exact amount came to but I remember doing the conversion at the time and it came to about $100 USD.

After I finished I decided to hang around the club until it closed and take in the scene. I had read great reviews about how hot the dancers at Malioboro are and quite frankly I had a hard time finding any real hotties except for the one that I took for the 30 minutes and didn't see any other of the girls in the booths that I wanted.

Day 2.

I left my hotel around 1 pm and after fighting terrible traffic arrived at Alexis shorty before 2 pm. The club on the first level obviously wasn't open but I was there for the spa on the 7th floor anyway. As I entered I noticed I was one of the few customers there this early on a Sunday afternoon but there were plenty of girls and the girls kept coming in so my timing was actually perfect. The lounge area at Alexis isn't all that impressive but the women definitely were and I thought it was I nteresting to see the girls separated by country. I could never imagine this in any strip club in my politically correct country which I live. After about 30 minutes I picked a pretty girl from China that caught my eye when she was first coming into work.

So here is how it works at Alexis once you pick a girl. Assuming you are in street clothes, you go into the locker room and change into shorts and robe while your girl is changing into a bikini. She then meets you and takes you into the pool area which is actually kind of nice. Nothing happens in the pool except for some pampering and you actually keep your shorts on in the pool. What I did notice while in the pool area was that some other girls were definitely not as hot in their bikinis as they were when I saw them earlier in their dresses / skirts. Particularly a girl from Vietnam that I almost picked.

My girl from China was pretty cute but she had a big ass tatoo on her belly and not the nicest teeth / smile which are kind of turnoffs for me. We went to our room which was actually pretty nice and had big mirrors on the walls which I like. After a quick shower we got down to business with an amazing BBBJ and then everything else covered. After reading that bareback was common in Jakarta this sort of surprised me but I was okay with it. My 90 minutes with this girl was okay but nothing worth flying to the other side of the world for.

I decide to leave Alexis after my session and then head to Classic to check it out. Driving through Jakarta I could not help but question why I came to such a sh*thole of a city and then I pulled up the Classic. Since it was still mid-afternoon, I went to the spa on the lower level and changed into a robe. Upon entering the sitting area there were a lot of girls. I was quickly approached by a mamasan that didn't speak a lick of English and for some reason she brought over a girl she wanted me to take. I politely tried to explain that I like to pick and not have anyone pick for me. After about 20 minutes I saw a little spinner come out in short back skirt and black heels. She really looked good from a distance so I asked for her. I don't know what it is but some times I like a very thin / petite framed girl. When she came up to me her faced had lots of acne and she wasn't all that pretty but I decided to take her otherwise. Quite honestly this girl was probaby the least attractive girl I have been with in years but I decided to not be a picky bastard and take her anyway.

The rooms at Classic, or at least the one I went to was really small and only had a bed and small shower (Alexis was much better). Not being all that attracted to this girl, I got right to it and made it a quick cum and go session which lasted less than 30 minutes. Tired from a lack of sleep, I decided to head back to the hotel for a quick nap before going out later.

I headed back out again shortly after 10 pm and made my way back to Alexis. Upon arriving I decided to check out the club and the dancers were just taking the stage as I walked in. There weren't many customers there this early and I was just trying to understand how things worked because the dancers all came out and danced on stage but then went back to some room or something. The dancers did not hangout in the club and with customers. This kind of bummed me out because there were some really hot dancers.

After watching a few sets of dancers rotate, I decided to make my way upstairs and but first stopped on 3 A. This is apparently the karaoke floor which is a form of entertainment that I have never participated. I saw some extremely beautiful woman sitting on couches so I inquired how it worked. I was shown to a room where I was told that since it was Sunday there was no charge for the room but it was 1,500,000 for a bottle plus the girl. I was also told that I could just pick a girl and take a girl upstairs for 3,000,000. As I write this post and reflect upon it, I don't know why I didn't pick a girl but instead went back up to the 7th floor. I ordered a beer and some disgusting terryaki chicken and rice while I checked out the available girls.

Scoping out my options, I saw a lot of beautiful girls from Vietnam and China, but for some reason I got focused on the Indonesian girls. I then noticed a girl that was kind of cute and sort of sexy with just a different look. She wasn't all that pretty but just different looking. We went right to a room and got to it. My time with her was good but nothing too exciting to write about.

It was almost 2 am by this point so I decided to make my way back to the club on the first floor. The club was much busier now but it had a weird mix of people. Additionally, the sexy stage dancers were finishing their last set and then I saw them all leave the stage. Oddly enough, this is when some of the customers got on stage and started dancing. There were a lot of really attractive girls in the club but it was pretty obvious that they were just there as customers to party and not looking for a guy to take upstairs or back to a hotel. While the club is pretty cool, I thought it was sort of odd that girls would go party in a club where there is basically a brothel upstairs.

As I was walking around the various areas of the club and contemplating leaving, one of the guys with a security shirt on asked me if I was looking for a girl. He then told me that one part of the bar were just customers but the other side had girls for hire. I did see two of the dancers in street clothes now talking to a small group of guys and flirting it up, but they appeared to be occupied. The other girls just didn't spark my interest. I left Alexis around 3:30 am impressed with what I saw upstairs but really disappointed with the club. I was sort of hopeful it would have been like Malioboro where you could get personal attention from the sexy dancers but that isn't how it works here.

I was feeling horny in the morning so I texted Silvi if she was at the 6th floor. She replied in the affirmative so I walked in around 11 AM and found her waiting for me. We briefly chatted and then I saw Novi kecil standing at the bar. She had also started early so I decided to take them both. They both like pictures (to be uploaded tomorrow; I'm going out shortly) and are astute rimmers.

One hour passed quickly and I gave them both a good tip before leaving the room. The girl gets to keep IDR 300,000 of the standard 600,000 charge, so tips are always welcome.

[QUOTE=KoperenKarel;1804796]Slightly irritating. I'm in the Century Park hotel in Jakarta which has cabled internet with good speed in the rooms. Unfortunately this faithfully blocks sites like ISG and Hookers.nl. However, there is also wifi in the entire hotel which does not block anything. Indonesian logic or the hotel being client friendly?

I am thus able to report. See Picture thread and Jakarta thread. Happy reading.

Regards,

Ko.[/QUOTE]As I also mentioned on hookers. NL (but of course if you can't get to it you cannot read it), you can work around it by using an anonymous proxy server such as [URL]https://hide.me/en/proxy.[/URL] I just returned from my first visit to Jakarta today (or Indonesia for that matter) but using that site I had no problems browsing nor writing reviews.

[QUOTE=KoperenKarel;1806074]The girl gets to keep IDR 300,000 of the standard 600,000 charge, so tips are always welcome.[/QUOTE]300 k? That's pretty generous. I think the girls at Malioboro who are billing out for 1 million rupiah only get 300 k for their cut.

[QUOTE=ATexGuy;1805918]
I decided that given that I was going out around 2 am that I would try out Malioboro on my first night.
To my disappointment I did not find that any of the girls sitting in the booths were to my liking. She was actually just coming out of a little VIP booth area which was curtained off. I grabbed her and took her back in the VIP booth and paid the 20 shot price for 30 minutes with her which basically consisted of a bbjcim and a few dances. I am not sure what the exact amount came to but I remember doing the conversion at the time and it came to about $100 USD.
[/QUOTE]Good FR AtexGuy.

Very contradicting experience however. When I had visited in May, Malio club was the best collection / congregation of sexy Indo gals I had seen across venues including Alexis. I didn't engage with the dancers in Malioboro lounge. I am visiting Jakarta in next couple of weeks and Malio is high up on my list alongwith Alexis. I will also try and engage with the dancers in Malioboro Lounge area. I hope things haven't changed so much in 6 months.

[QUOTE=ATexGuy;1805918]
It was almost 2 am by this point so I decided to make my way back to the club on the first floor. The club was much busier now but it had a weird mix of people. Additionally, the sexy stage dancers were finishing their last set and then I saw them all leave the stage. Oddly enough, this is when some of the customers got on stage and started dancing. There were a lot of really attractive girls in the club but it was pretty obvious that they were just there as customers to party and not looking for a guy to take upstairs or back to a hotel. While the club is pretty cool, I thought it was sort of odd that girls would go party in a club where there is basically a brothel upstairs.

As I was walking around the various areas of the club and contemplating leaving, one of the guys with a security shirt on asked me if I was looking for a girl. He then told me that one part of the bar were just customers but the other side had girls for hire. I did see two of the dancers in street clothes now talking to a small group of guys and flirting it up, but they appeared to be occupied. The other girls just didn't spark my interest. I left Alexis around 3:30 am impressed with what I saw upstairs but really disappointed with the club. [/QUOTE]You missed the 5th floor. Slightly mature gals but famous for the helicopter ride. Do try if your are still in Jakarta and it interests you.

Thanks for the intel on the club as well. I had been twice but both times before 8 pm hence couldn't indulge in the club. Guess I would rather try nightclubs.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1806403]300 k? That's pretty generous. I think the girls at Malioboro who are billing out for 1 million rupiah only get 300 k for their cut.[/QUOTE]I was quoting two of the Maribaya girls. If the girls get 300,000 out of 1,000,000 at Malioboro they get a raw deal.

[QUOTE=Krelis;1806198]As I also mentioned on hookers. NL (but of course if you can't get to it you cannot read it), you can work around it by using an anonymous proxy server such as [URL]https://hide.me/en/proxy.[/URL] I just returned from my first visit to Jakarta today (or Indonesia for that matter) but using that site I had no problems browsing nor writing reviews.[/QUOTE]The wifi works 99 % of the time, so that's good enough for me. See my reports of the last week.

[QUOTE=KoperenKarel;1807371]If the girls get 300,000 out of 1,000,000 at Malioboro they get a raw deal.[/QUOTE]No doubt about that. But I think it's the norm around town that the girl gets about 30% of whatever you pay the house. And she gets to keep whatever tip you give her above that. As far as I know, Maribaya girls are among the highest paid percentage wise. I'm not sure why that is.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1807383] Maribaya girls are among the highest paid percentage wise. I'm not sure why that is.[/QUOTE]

It's called "Bule Pay" which is greater compensation for the type of 'clientele' they are forced to serve. For example, they usually are old, fat, hairy, out of shape Bule with gynecomastia. Some are so fat the girls would get 'KO'd by the shear weight. Some are further shamed by being forced to take pictures with such butterballs having unprotected bareback sex which are then posted on various forums without their consent (faces exposed and unblured) resulting a lifetime of humiliation. This is not a problem in other establishments with more local clientele. Therefore, management gives them a greater percentage of pay to compensate for such pain, humiliation, suffering and drudgery.

[QUOTE=Lost99;1807673]It's called "Bule Pay" which is greater compensation for the type of 'clientele' they are forced to serve. For example, they usually are old, fat, hairy, out of shape Bule with gynecomastia. Some are so fat the girls would get 'KO'd by the shear weight. Some are further shamed by being forced to take pictures with such butterballs having unprotected bareback sex which are then posted on various forums without their consent (faces exposed and unblured) resulting a lifetime of humiliation. This is not a problem in other establishments with more local clientele. Therefore, management gives them a greater percentage of pay to compensate for such pain, humiliation, suffering and drudgery.[/QUOTE]Oh snap. There is my new word for today, gynecomastia. I admit, I had to Google it.

In other news, when I am not worrying about the onset of gynecomastia, I am banging Indonesian cuties. Tagged just served up another provincial girl that I had meet me in a motel. There are a few discussions about pricing going on, and this girl did not bring up money in advance, I usually do, but I just could not figure out from her profile if she pro / semi-pro / bored housewife. So I decided to just have her meet me and if she goes through with the deed then I have all the pricing power!

Long story short, she eagerly agreed to meet and arrived on time. Bonus points for this girl. Had a good session with her trying to mount me bareback but I made her stop and I put on a condom which she watched with a puzzled look on her face. All done and I made my apologies about having to get back to work, she dressed and I slipped 600.000 into her handbag and told her to go buy herself something nice. She did not count it in front of me, just said thank you and headed out the door.

I figured the test if I got the pricing right or not would be if she wants to repeat. Sent her a 'it was nice to meet you message' awhile later and sure enough she is keen to meet again.

[QUOTE=Ceegee;1807720]In other news, when I am not worrying about the onset of gynecomastia, ... Had a good session with her trying to mount me bareback but I made her stop and I put on a condom ... I slipped 600.000 into her handbag and told her to go buy herself something nice. She did not count it in front of me, just said thank you and headed out the door.[/QUOTE]KOngrats on not having GyneKOmastia, and having the sense to wrap up your KOlbasa sausage. That's alot more than I can say for some forum members who believe they are impervious to the onset of HIV and other diseases, and potentially spread them to other girls who we may ourselves encounter someday. It just goes to show that that these KOmrades are as as uneducated as the girls they bang.

As for pricing, most sideline gals I've met (I. E. Girls I've met in bars, coffee shops etc. Not brothels and bordellos) that are avail for P4P will settle for 400-500 K short time, and double that for overnight. Although, ST with me to these gals are usually mean 2-3 HRs and at least 2 shots, and sometimes 3 if we are having fun and a good time. Your payment of 600 k is within the typical ballpark, perhaps slightly more but consider that a bit of a tip if she was good to you.

[QUOTE=Lost99;1807726]KOngrats on not having GyneKOmastia, and having the sense to wrap up your KOlbasa sausage. That's alot more than I can say for some forum members who believe they are impervious to the onset of HIV and other diseases, and potentially spread them to other girls who we may ourselves encounter someday. It just goes to show that that these KOmrades are as as uneducated as the girls they bang.

As for pricing, most sideline gals I've met (I. E. Girls I've met in bars, coffee shops etc. Not brothels and bordellos) that are avail for P4P will settle for 400-500 K short time, and double that for overnight. Although, ST with me to these gals are usually mean 2-3 HRs and at least 2 shots, and sometimes 3 if we are having fun and a good time. Your payment of 600 k is within the typical ballpark, perhaps slightly more but consider that a bit of a tip if she was good to you.[/QUOTE]That's good. Please never stop writing and continue the one liners.

RL.

[QUOTE=RobertLong;1807757]That's good. Please never stop writing and continue the one liners.

RL.[/QUOTE]Just so long as he doesn't milk "GyneKOmastia" too often.

I've read through quite a lot of FRs but I'm confused about the Classic Hotel. I understand that there are 3 floors to choose from in Classic: 2nd, 5th and the basement, but unsure which has the best quality / service. A lot of FRs seem to have omitted the floor info. Could anyone clarify the floor-wise rating please?

Thanks

[QUOTE=Behemoth;1809163]I've read through quite a lot of FRs but I'm confused about the Classic Hotel. I understand that there are 3 floors to choose from in Classic: 2nd, 5th and the basement, but unsure which has the best quality / service. A lot of FRs seem to have omitted the floor info. Could anyone clarify the floor-wise rating please?

Thanks[/QUOTE]Basement: 7. 37314/10. 00000.

2nd floor: 7. 50262/10. 00000.

5th floor: 5. 20001/10. 00000.


Please keep in mind that these ratings are not exact. I have rounded to 5 decimal places.

Hi Buddies,

Does anyone have a recommendation for a funny Monday night apart CJ's, BATS or TopGun?

How about Tiga Puluh? Is it still worth a try or is the business still down?

[QUOTE=CardBoy;1809283]Hi Buddies,

Does anyone have a recommendation for a funny Monday night apart CJ's, BATS or TopGun?

How about Tiga Puluh? Is it still worth a try or is the business still down?[/QUOTE]Stick with BATS or CJs.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1809343]Stick with BATS or CJs.[/QUOTE]All right. Since I am staying in the LE Meridien anyways I might pay a visit at Tiga Puluh also. But I do not expect any good action there.

[QUOTE=CardBoy;1809708]All right. Since I am staying in the LE Meridien anyways I might pay a visit at Tiga Puluh also. But I do not expect any good action there.[/QUOTE]Your hotel is right across the street from Fortune spa as well. That's a great place for a ++ massage. You can walk there from your hotel if you want.

Forum's fairly quiet this week but Jakarta doesn't seem to be, as in the news.

At Kempinski Hotel local celebrity entertainers caught in a state of undress are being quoted as charging $4600 for a punt. Does anyone know if this is ST or LT price?

Further uptown at the debatable Classic Hotel a regular visitor accidently fell down the stairs and killed himself beside the security desk. Unfortunately the CCTV was broken at the time. Does anyone know if Fast Eddie is still posting?

What's with everyone suddenly asking for payment upfront? If they succeed at doing so, it means the guys are.

Paying upfront defeats any incentive in providing service and as soon as they are done with the first shot they take the money and leave in a heartbeat. In addition, service is rushed and they want to get it over with ASAP.

Even putting it on a table won't work, as it happened several times that they took the cash and just ran off.

Do us a favor and don't fall for this ridiculous demand. Always pay at the end.

[QUOTE=UsPete;1812083]Forum's fairly quiet this week but Jakarta doesn't seem to be, as in the news.

<SNIP>

Further uptown at the debatable Classic Hotel a regular visitor accidently fell down the stairs and killed himself beside the security desk. Unfortunately the CCTV was broken at the time. <SNIP>
[/QUOTE]According to the Jakarta Post he was beaten to death. How unfortunate that the CCTV was malfunctioning.

[QUOTE=EgyMonger;1812169]What's with everyone suddenly asking for payment upfront? If they succeed at doing so, it means the guys are.
.....Paying upfront defeats any incentive in providing service and as soon as they are done with the first shot they take the money and leave in a heartbeat. In addition, service is rushed and they want to get it over with ASAP. Even putting it on a table won't work, as it happened several times that they took the cash and just ran off. Do us a favor and don't fall for this ridiculous demand. Always pay at the end.[/QUOTE]That's right! No need to pay upfront. If she doesn't want to play ball, take another lady. It's your money and your rules (your choice to take a different one). A request for money upfront is a big red flag.

Hi Buddies,

Just came back from a trip from Jakarta. CJ's and BATS quite vibrant last week. CJ's with for sure better girls.

Meet my regular before and partied one night. Quite fun, but broke with her the next night.

Talked to a very cute and friendly girl in CJs on the third night. Starting price was 2 mil, negotiated her down to 1. 5 mil and even 1 mil. But then only for one shot.

Went to BlokM another night around 3 am. MyBar only few girls left, but a wonderful one for 1 mil LT -.

The next night another MyBar girl of my choice quoted 2 mil after having spent 2 hrs in the bar with me. She was a stunner but I refused. When the bar closed she followed a very very very drunken guy in the cab. It was more the fact, that she jumped into the cab cause she smelled money. F**k off, glad that I refused her offer.

Any other bar. Even TOPGun sucked last week.

Since when are MyBar girls quoting 2 million? I've never had one of those girls (even the stunners) ask for more than a million, and normally they are happy for less than that. That girl must have been the top stunner of all time in that bar.

Girls at CJs ask for more than girls at MyBar (even if it's the same girl) simply due to supply and demand and the fact that CJs is a far more upscale venue. Girls at MyBar do not expect 2 million rupiah (at least not in my experience).

I'd love to see a photo of that girl.

[QUOTE=PipeLayer99;1813213]That's right! No need to pay upfront. If she doesn't want to play ball, take another lady. It's your money and your rules (your choice to take a different one). A request for money upfront is a big red flag.[/QUOTE]I've not had a girl ask for money up front in Jakarta. But if they were to tell me in the bar that I have to pay up front, I would tell them that I will give them money after sex. And if they don't agree with that, I would look for a different girl. If they waited until they got to my place to ask for money up front, I would tell them they are free to leave, but I am not going to pay them until they have done something to earn that money.

I've had girls in South America ask for money up front. Every one of them was a horrible shag. The last thing I want is for that trend to come to Indonesia.

[QUOTE=CardBoy;1813591]
Any other bar. Even TOPGun sucked last week.[/QUOTE]I think Top Gun pretty much always sucks for quality women. But it's still a fun place to hang out, have some fairly cheap drinks, and listen to the band.

Places for free lancers have fallen off big time in the last 10 years. There are so many huge brothels up in north Jakarta now that it seems many people go to those now rather than picking up free lancers. It also seems that as soon as a really nice free lancer hits the market, she's snapped up by some guy living locally much more now than in the past. In the past, most of the guys picking up the free lancers were married oil and gas guys who had no interest in a long term relationship with working girls. Now it seems there are far less married guys in town.

CJs, BATS, Top Gun, MyBar are the top choices. You can find some talent in Kemang on the weekends as well at places like Eastern Promise. Milles and Golden Crown discos in north jakarta are places you can pick up free lancers as well, but that's a totally different environment. Honestly, you can meet free lancers all over. JW Marriott in Mega Kuningan has a bar there that has some decent free lancers on occasion. Grand Mahakam Hotel has some decent girls at times. Le Meridien will have a couple of decent girls on occasion. Even Park Lane Stix bar still had a decent girl in there the last time I visited (not recently), so it's hit or miss. If there's a bar in a hotel, there are likely at least a few girls available.

[QUOTE=UsPete;1812083]Forum's fairly quiet this week but Jakarta doesn't seem to be, as in the news.

At Kempinski Hotel local celebrity entertainers caught in a state of undress are being quoted as charging $4600 for a punt. Does anyone know if this is ST or LT price?

Further uptown at the debatable Classic Hotel a regular visitor accidently fell down the stairs and killed himself beside the security desk. Unfortunately the CCTV was broken at the time. Does anyone know if Fast Eddie is still posting?[/QUOTE]Fast Eddie posts on many of the Asian sites here. Well posts is an incorrect word. He makes a comment that generally reflects someone elses comment but its rare (if ever) that he adds anything new or meaningful to what had been previously stated.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1813599]Since when are MyBar girls quoting 2 million? I've never had one of those girls (even the stunners) ask for more than a million, and normally they are happy for less than that. That girl must have been the top stunner of all time in that bar.

Girls at CJs ask for more than girls at MyBar (even if it's the same girl) simply due to supply and demand and the fact that CJs is a far more upscale venue. Girls at MyBar do not expect 2 million rupiah (at least not in my experience).

I'd love to see a photo of that girl.[/QUOTE]Hi Smoothy,

Don't have a picture of this girl, but she was really a stunner. Assured. However it also happens the first time that a girl in MyBar asked for 2 mils. Crazy. I rather put 2 mils in the sink than giving a MyBar girl this amount of money. And as said: She jumped quickly in the cab of the very drunken guy cause she smelt easy earned money. The guy was not even more able to walk. -.

[QUOTE=FreebieFan;1813664]Fast Eddie posts on many of the Asian sites here. Well posts is an incorrect word. He makes a comment that generally reflects someone elses comment but its rare (if ever) that he adds anything new or meaningful to what had been previously stated.[/QUOTE]Talking about meaningful post you shouldn't talk if you look yourself in the mirror there will be a dick in your mouth.

Fast eddie 48.

[QUOTE=FastEddie48;1814120]Talking about meaningful post you shouldn't talk if you look yourself in the mirror there will be a dick in your mouth.

Fast eddie 48.[/QUOTE]Carry on posting Eddie, it's not difficult to ignore the idiots.

[QUOTE=Firekhan;1814124]Carry on posting Eddie, it's not difficult to ignore the idiots.[/QUOTE]Ah, a new subspecies of poster has now evolved and makes an appearance. The 2 post expert. Lots of those here. Keep posting and reporting, sunshine (or maybe its " Novice " or " Junior ") Were all looking forward to it.

Yawn.

There's something about a mongering destination that boosts my memory power. My own neighborhood, I can't remember the street names, but whenever I visit Jakarta I have things mapped out so well in my mind. Maybe it's the rotting stench of durians on Mangaa Besar that energizes my brain cells.

Back after a few months' absence, I stayed at the old Mercure Kota on Hayam Wuruk, that was something new after always staying at the more modest Astika on nearby Mangaa Besar. One nice homecoming of sorts were the taxis, larger, more confortable and resaonably driven, with polite, uniformed drivers, vastly different from where I live. The Blue Bird advice everyone gives is sound, usually when I could only find another variety they refused the meter and asked for crazy fares (50 K from Malioboro to the Mercure! But often the Blue Bird drivers just had no clue about where I wanted to go, and these were club names they should have known, and they were so disinclined to take my directions (when I knew the way), or to ask for directions (when I did not). Still as good a monger transport service as is out there, I guess. While I am on a rant about directions: signage, it's really not the Indonesians' forte. But then if I start on this I will never get to the mongering.

While Jakarta fit me like a comfortable old shoe, I wanted to try new venues this trip. It's astounding how many there are, which is welcome but maddening when you realize that in so many countries even one of the big clubs would be the main event in town. For coming up with my list of places to try I relied on Jakarta 100 Bars, which is something of a bible, as well as posts here at ISG, especially Smoothy's October post on "places to try if you want to find a change of venue. " My biggest problem was where to start, I was overwhelmed by the embarassment of riches.

I only got to my hotel after midnight and went out at half past one, a mistake in retrospect, I should have gone to bed. The nearest place I knew that was open late (oh, how I miss Stadium) I figured would be Malioboro, and since I wanted to see some titties on stage I decided to try Malio Club. I'm not sure how but on one of my earliest trips to Jakarta I had been able to access Malio Club from the main entrance of Malioboro without paying separate entry (which does not seem possible now), so the place looked familiar. The nude dancers were quite hot, though they only had their panty bottoms off briefly.

The girls circulating and approaching me on the floor were cute enough, though not really special, but since I had just gotten into town I wasn't really ready to commit so I left to check out the club at V2 a couple of blocks south. It was my first time in this place, but when I got there I got a peek into the club and it looked incredibly dark. I did briefly see one topless dancer, but not sure if they had girls and rooms on site I didn't feel like paying the 100 K cover charge.

Back at Malioboro, the main club was closed at this point, nearing 3 AM, and paying to enter Malio Club again was something I didn't want to do. So I headed back to the Mercure and figured with Club 36 nearby (in the Jakayakarta Hotel) I would check that out. I paid the 100 K there and it was a complete waste: there were about a dozen dancers on the long bar but none were topless and I could notice no working girls available: it appeared to be a regular club. So I finally headed to bed.

My late and unproductive night had its consequences, as I only awoke after noon; jet lag did not help any. First I made my way over toward Loksari Plaza to get a sim card, and on the way passed by Bintang Mawar (but did not go in), and stopped into Olympic Hotel to check out the spa. Alas, it is no loner operational. After lunch I headed across Mangaa Besar over to Travel Hotel, where there was only a skeleton crew on hand at 3 PM, which didn't stop the mamasans from being pushy as ever. I did get to see the back pool room area where there were some couches with a few girls, a room I never noticed before.

With the aim of trying out a new place I made the not so pleasant walk down to the east end of Mangaa Besar and over to Fashion Hotel to see their spa. Smoothy's post on new places to explore inspired me, as had the girls' photos on their Facebook page. No change of clothes was necessary for the main lounge, so I sat down and eyeballed the 20 or so girls on the couches before the papasan used some basic English to explain things and the price. He called over a lineup and I chose Leah, a girl I had seen smiling and joking with her friends. I paid him the 550,000 Rupiah and went to the locker room to change into spa attire.

Leah, now bikini-clad, joined me and took me over to the warm pool on the outdoor terrace, and sat massaging my shoulders and then dick through my shorts. This pool session only lasted a few minutes before she said we should go. The concept of hanging out in the pool wiht the girl is cool, but nothing special when it 's done this perfunctory way.

After I showered Leah took me to the room, where her lack of enthusiasm was clear. That said, I did enjoy her thick, curvy body. Leah did accept DATY but in a businesslike way, and it annoyed me when she put on a condom for the BJ. The fucking was good, especially the doggy finish, since I liked the look and feel of her bouncy, round ass cheeks. But overall Fashion was poor vaue, the facilities were showing some wear, and Leah ranked near the bottom of the girls I met this trip.

One of the glaring gaps in my past Jakarta experiences was never having visited the famous 6th floor bar at the Melawi hotel in Blok M. I decided to take advantage of this being a Sunday, with presumably less traffic, to make the trek south from Kota to Blok M. I used the Transjakarta bus to get there, and it was a pretty painless ride, and easy enough to find Melawi once I exited the bus at the Blok M terminal.

Up on the 6th floor, Maribaya Bar was basically as I pictured it, but a lot more empty; I was the only guest and there were only five women in the room. To avoid signalling definintive interest I tried to avoid their gazes as I scanned the room several times. I also tried to avoid making an eye contact commitment with the three smiling women standing outside the barroom door (I never did understand why they did not just come into the bar, it seemed really strange).

I was ultimately drawn to the sweet smile of one petite woman's sitting on a couch near the door. Mela was very friendly and I liked the way she caressed my hand, arm, and thigh, so we soon headed to a room, which was very substandard considering this was a hotel, more like the rooms in Berlian / Kartika / Royal Mas.

Thirty-year old Mela (and the other women) fit the MILF profile I had expected of Maribaya, except that she was slender and petite, not as thick as the others. She had good English so we communicated very well, with her playing teacher instructing me in some Bahasa vocabulary. More importantly we communicated well physically. The kissing was superb, the best I had on my entire trip, The sex was very hot too; the great thing about women in their 30's is how horny they are, and Mela orgasmed a few times as we fucked. I tipped Mela 100,000 as I left with warm feelings for her and the place. But not with intention to return: the lineup just wasn't good enough to make me want to make the trip down from Kota, especially on a weekday.

Since I was in the neighborhood I wanted to check out the Blok M bars on Falatehan Street, though I realized that 7 PM on a Sunday was not prime time. Nevertheless, I tried to find the place without luck, until I gave up and in trying to find the correct bus platform I emerged from the subterranean terminal right at the end of the right street. I dropped into the's Place, which had only a guest near the door and a robust older gent playing pool, surrounded by about a dozen ladies in that part of the bar, sitting around or playing billiards too. These ladies were a well-aged crew, and I politely declined one's approach. I had ideas about just taking a look into the private VIP room, and was glad that I did not do so when the older guy headed in there and like a vacuum all of the women whooshed in behind him. I would not have wanted to fend off that bunch on my own. I finished my drink and left to catch the bus back to Mangaa Besar.

Explore new places: that was my mantra this trip. And nowhere did it pay off more than deciding to visit FM1. I had read about it on Jakarta 100 Bars and scattered mentions elsewhere, and I had notived it on my way from the airport. It was only around 10-15 minutes by taxi away from my hotel so I headed there Sunday night. The flashy colored lights outside and gaudy statuary in the lobby made me know I was in the right kind of place.

FM1's upstairs lounge (I skipped the spa) quickly became a favorite for a few reasons. First, it was not too big, not too small. I like having options, but some of the places that have huge lineups and girls scattered all over are hard to process when selecting a girl. Here they sat in just two couch-lined rooms, with 20 girls being the most I saw. The mamasans (a couple of whom were young and hot and who I would have liked to select) were friendly and attentive without being pushy. The dining area managers and waitstaff were very welcoming (joking with the flirty, cute waitresses was a lot of fun, I kind of wish some of these "regular" girls were available for takeout like in Angeles City).

The place's design was cool too, with ancient Egyptian statues and reliefs of Roman legionnaires at war. More classy than it sounds, with professional lighting. One design flaw though was that there was no real place to sit where you had a view of the girls on the couches, to browse your options while having a drink, like at Classic. Instead, all the seating. Some couches but mostly the high chrome tables and chairs bolted to the ground like at Classic. Was by the bar and the dance floor. That's where I saw a live band, but more importantly the dancers.

When I first saw them I thought it would be a lame performance, their dresses didn't reveal much and these four girls were much too cute to strip out of them, to my mind. I am glad I was wrong, because they indeed discarded the dresses and danced in their bras and panties for a while, then topless, and then went fully nude. And they had really nice young bodies to go a long with the cute faces. Not model bodies, but figures that got me really horny for these girls next door. Which was part of the idea, since they soon circulated the room in pairs seeking lady drink shots. I 'm not usually so inclined for this, but with these girls it was lots of fun and pretty good value at 30,000 per shot. Unfortunately, I was not too good about shooing them away so I rang up a pretty big bill on the drinks, partly out of concern to be egalitarian and reward all four with drinks. But I must admit having some of them grind me with a lap dance, while I squeezed some young titties, was fun.

The girls were friendly but there was a weird incident at the end of the night: when I moved up to a table at the edge of the dance floor to get a better view of the girls as they had just skipped out of their panties. Just as I get settled in at the table one of the girls pointed at me with a scowl and another called over to the manager. At first I thought it was a joke of some sort since earlier I had these girls in my lap and plied them with plenty of lady drinks. But the manager came over and told me that taking photographs with my phone was not permitted. I explained that I had done no such thing and my phone was not working anyway. What had apparently happened was that the shiny, disk with my customer number handing from my writs had caused a reflection from the dance floor lights and the girls though it was a camera flash. When I told the manager this he went to tell the girls, who gave me a smile and bow of apology, and then the manager politely apologized for the misunderstanding. I considered how in a club like this in other parts of the works there would have been no explanations permitted before the bouncers would have gone to work on me. I did see the girls in the lobby at the end of the night as they waited for a ride, and all was well between us. And bantering with them then did let me meet a nice Indonesian-American guy who had the luck of dating one of those fine dancers.

All this about the dancers, when the highlight of the night was the girl I went to the room with before all that. In another sign that cost does not equate to quality in Jakarta, when I spoke with one of the mamasans she let me know that the price for a hour with a girl was a mind-bogglingly low 275,000 Rupiah, the second-lowest I paid on this trip. I spent some time after I arrived standing near the couches, in deciding who to choose. The mama helped out, calling over a cute, slender girl named Nancy with a birthmark by her nose that made her stand out.

Only as we went up to the room did we learn something we had in common. Nancy's ability in speaking Arabic, having spent time in Egypt and Jordan, meant we didn't need to rely on my pigin Bahasa, but could have a real conversation. I think this connection warmed things up between us, sparking some of the least inhibited sex I've ever had.

Kissing was not part of this, which is usually a problem for me but with Nancy everything else was so off-the-hook I didn't mind much. After she washed me off in the shower and followed in turn, Nancy took my dick into her mouth for a wicked blowjob, probably the best I had on this trip, the kind that has you clutching the sheets to avoid blowing your load early. I wanted to save that burst, so I had us switch positions and applied my own mouth to Nancy's pussy, reaching up to caress her small breasts and watching the pleasure written on her face.

When Nancy had enough of my tongue, she motioned me to lie next to her and reached over to the side table for a jar of lube. With one hand she coated my cock, getting it harder and harder, and I knew what was coming: she wanted my bare dick inside of her pussy. I was too aroused to object and so climbed above to mount her in missionary, sliding deep and grinding her hard, eliciting soft moans. I began to pump her faster and faster until I needed a breather and flopped onto my own back. Nancy took this as an invitation to sit on my dick, sliding her velvet pussy on my shaft slowly before revving up into a quick bounce while I grabbed her ass cheeks tightly.

Nancy's sleek body was made for one of my favorite positions, so I asked her to turn around first Asian cowgirl style, and then leaned her back the way I really like it. With her back against mine, I held her hips as she moved her lithe body up and down, producing delicious sensations from the pressure of my dick against the walls of her pussy. More acrobatic maneuvers were next as we entwined ourselves in a pretzel-like scissoring position that was a first for me but felt so good for both of us.

We were coming to the end of our hour and so we took a break as Nancy called down to arrange the second hour I requested. We relaxed and chatted a bit before Nancy called this second session to order by applying her mouth to my dick, another fine suck on her part spiced up with ball licking I like when done lightly and expertly. The story of our second hour was Nancy's ass, not for anal but for how I worshipped it as we fucked. We began by lying side by side spooning as I fucked her, a position giving me sublime views in the wall mirror.

Despite being a slim girl, Nancy's ass looked fine when she got on all fours to offer me her pussy from behind. Grabbing the pillow underneath her generated exceptional leverage for me to impale her wet pussy with abandon. Watching our own little porno in the mirror made it all the more delightful. As I got more eager to release my load I yanked the pillow out from under her and pushed Nancy down flat. Holding her ass cheeks, then pressing our sweaty bodies together, I pumped her from above ever more rapidly until I finally unloaded with a burst, flooding her tight pussy with cum.

After my ho-hum experience at Fashion Hotel, I hoped for a better spa experience my second day, and hoped for a fitting follow-up to my amazing experience with Nancy at FM1. A place I had known about for years but never tried was Orchardz Hotel's spa, so I headed to the branch at the hotel on Jalan Industri off Gunung Sahari, an easy cab ride from my own hotel (I later noticed an Orchardz on Pangeran Jakayakarta too).

My aim was to try one of the specialty massages, and I considered the soapy "butterfly" massage and the licking of honey off my body, before settling on the ice-smoothy (a fire-and-ice blow job). This brought back fond memories of my visits to Macau's saunas, but at a fraction of the price there (including use of the spa facilities. I used the pools and sauna, watched movies sipping complimentary sweet tea and soup, and then napped in the lounge after my massage (cost: just under 700,000 Rupiah).

Something new for me here was that they choose the masseuse for you, which added an element of risk, but the desk attendant assured me she would pick a good girl for me, and she definitely delivered. Yanny was a fine-looking 24 year old with a sexy bit of braiding in her hair on one side. She was strong, and she put that strength so use in giving me a wondeful leg and back massage, the best I had on thie trip. As she massaged me she engaged me in smiley banter using a smattering of English, sign language, and some Bahasa. She was topless during this phase, wearing tight polka-dot cotton panties revealing a curvy ass, the memory of which is getting me hard as I write this.

After the body massage she called for the thermos of hot tea and bucket of ice and treated my dick to alternating sensations of her fiery and then frigid mouth. Done with this, she gave me a catbath with exquisite attention to my nipples, titty fucked me, and inscribed circles around her own nipples using my dick as a pen (essentially giving me the best of all the massage packages).

Overcome by these sensations, I grabbed Yanny's ass and pulled her up onto my bare cock, kissing her passionately as she bucked on my rod. I flipped her over and ground hard into bringing on expressions of ecstasy as I hit her G-spot. When she turned again to proffer her ass I slid my dick inside her pussy as we both looked at the infinite cascading images in the wall mirror of me pumping her furiously. Yanny dropped flat as I continued to grind into her when she began to squeeze her pussy and ass muscles and thrust upwards, leaving me helpless to continue much longer as a stream of cum burst from mu cock into her wet pussy.

The concept of being fucked by a masseuse has a strong hold on my imagination, I think partly for the transgression of a medical treatment transformed by carnal lust. I have had this experience a scant number of times (a professional quality massage followed by sex) but it was never as good on both ends, and with such passion, as with Yanny.

Orchardz was I suppose a middle-brow option up here in north Jakarta, but I figured down-market also had its charms. My taxi driver from the hotel dropped me off at the Kota complex I'd visited on past trips, and the puddle-filled alleyways, dark, shuttered shops that had sold God-knows-what, and the occasional rat all felt familiar.

At the first bar, LA, I tried, the mamasan plucked a cutie from the fishbow for me, a continued stretch of luck (at the more humble venues) when the selections was made for me. Nindy was cute and slender and friendly, but the fact is I remember little more about her. Which I am a bit sad about because I recall having an enjoyable hour with her.

I planned to head home but did some window shopping in the area and next door (another re-visit from a previous trip) I had a Royal deja-vu moment. On a past visit had selected from the hallway outside the fishbowl busty girl in a tight to and tighter blue jeans. This time my attention was again drawn not to one of the uniformed girls behind the glass but a girl standing outside the glass in civilian clothing, tight jeans and a bustier all showing off a wicked, curvy figure to go a long with a cute face. As I understood it a session with her cost a bit more than the fishbowl girls, about 400,000.

Her name was an unfamiliar local one hard for me to remember, something like Ukip. Up in the room her rocking body did not cause the bed to be a-rockin, though. She was very laid-back, kind of sedate, and we had slow-paced sex that wasn't bad despite the low passion factor. I do remember sucking her torpedo-like breasts being a highlight. With my afternoon complete I headed back to my hotel to get ready for the night's activities.

Sex pervades Mangaa Besar, thanks in part to the freelancers and pimps you pass in Loksari plaza or on the street. It sometimes feels like girls fall into your lap. This was almost true; as I hailed a taxi in front of my hotel, sitting at a food cart was a mama and the Chinese-Indonesian woman she was hawking. The mama made me an offer, 400,000 for two hours with Linda, a moderately attractive woman looking stylish in a skirt. I was off to do some more exploring, so I declined, but the mama, named (and the size of a) Shanty, gave me her business card so I could call her later.

My destination was Newtown Executive Club, which 100 Bars had described in interesting terms as an alternative to places like Hotel Travel. I had stopped by earlier in the day to learn there was no spa, but a lounge which a sign claimed had sexy dancers. I arrived at a quarter to midnight and paid the cover charge. I immediately wished I had looked inside first. Instead of sexy dancers, on the stage was a hard-rock band performing covers of groups like AC-DC with varying success. Though the room was ringed with couches, there were no girls on them, just a couple at tables with men. And no sexy dancers to be seen.

After a little while I got fed-up and marched to the front desk to get my long-awaited change for my cover charge, and complained about the lack of dancers. I was told they would come on at midnight, so I returned to a table to wait a bit longer. Four girls did appear on stage, but they were fully dressed in frilly Spanish-dancer outfits. Doubting these would be coming off, and not seeing any girls available, I left, with the hopes that Linda would still be outside my hotel.

She was not, but I did have Shanty's card. They must have been nearby because within five minutes of ordering Linda up Shanty began calling me. Incessantly, even when I kept telling her I was coming right down. Shanty tried to charge me 500 K but I stuck to the original 400 price and took Linda upstairs.

It took a while to get started, since Linda wanted to take selfies of us, and then we had to shower. The next disappointment was that her dress had hidden a very average body. I quickly realized that there was little sexual chemistry between us, Linda was kind of clumsy in bed and nothing really flowed. Her BJ was weak, and she was too chatty. I am usually ok with pillow talk but she yapped more than fucked. While trying to get Linda to stroke me or blow me well enough for me to get hard, she stated that our hour was up, denying that the agreement had been two hours. I was too tired and unimpressed to argue, and let her go on her way. Not before she gave me her own printed business card, which I knew I would never use after this fiasco. At that point I figured had some good sessions earlier in the day and that it was best to get some sleep.

Sightseeing was on the agenda in old Kota this day, with some reconnaissance as well. After museum-hopping I decided to check out the Pool at 1001, a high-end brothel at the hotel connected with the Coliseum night club, just a couple of blocks away from tourist central Fatahilah Square. The concept was a swimming pool where you would carouse with the ladies, watching them frolic in their bikinis, before fucking the girl of your choice in the room. Based on a user review in 100 Bars, where I had learned of it, the place was pricey at upwards of 2 million Juta. But I wanted to see for myself.

I entered the hotel via the driveway (a very discreet entrance!) and was sent up the elevator to the pool reception. There a robust Chinese mama explained that imported girls cost 2 million, and locals 1. 4 million, and the program included a half hour with the girl in the pool and then an hour in the room. 200,000 was the charge for looking, which I assumed was for guys to swim, lounge, and hang out without taking a girl.

She led me to the indoor pool area, which was swank, with plants around it and sophisticated lighting and lounge chairs submerged in the water. The girls were sitting on rows of couches on one end of the pool. They did look good, enhanced I am sure by their elegant dresses. But there was no frolicking going on (it was around 4 PM), no sexy beach party. I assumed it would be just like the spa at Fashion where you got a perfunctory period of time with the girl in the pool who would rush you to the room. At least this is what I expected to happen if there was a language barrier. So I said my apologies to the mama and she complained in a huff that I should pay for looking, but I made my way outside. Having had some of the wildest sex of my life (at FM1) for a fraction of the cost, I didn't see the need to make the investment here.

Still on the search for new places to explore, I headed for Ruko Robinson and one of the spas there that Smoothy had suggested on the forum, Griha Sehat. I had expected the place to be closer to F Square but actually took a little while to get there by taxi. The location was one of those grim commercial complexes, but at least clean. Griha was one of three or so spas I noticed, and I went in. Everyone was friendly enough though I doubted many bules showed their faces here. Clad in shorts and robe, I headed up to the selection / bar room and was shown a lineup. I picked the tallest girl, a cutie appropriately named Bella. Off to a room similar to the one at Orchardz, Bella gave me a pretty good massage, though she was too shy to take her bra or panties off, but she did strip when we moved onto the main event.

I cradled her pretty head in my lap as she took my cock into her mouth, a beautiful sight. Rather horny from her good blow job skills and the fact that I hadn't fucked in almost 24 hours, I laid her down for some covered missionary position. She ultimately rode me to the finish, but after the blow job the rest of the sex was pretty vanilla (communication was halting), but she was quite cute and so it was worth it. After some sauna time and a hot soak I headed out.

As I was walking through the complex I noticed a couple of brothel-bars and decided to check these out. At the first one, "Satu" something, I went upstairs to the fishbowl where the girls did not look as good as the photos on the front desk. The friendly mama did call one of the available girls down for me to see, but she seemed bule-phobic so I passed and moved on (the price here was in the 300's). Across the alley was a bar called Peach Blossom. Here the desk staff ushered me into the bar room where the girls stood up from a couch in the corner for me to choose. I picked one with a cute smile belying her witchy name of Hilda. What I hadn't noticed until I followed her as we walked upstairs was how amazing her ass was. In a tight, tight skirt, her ass was one of the best I've ever seen, in Indonesia or elsewhere.

Hilda's smileyness and our kidding around (pigin Bahasa is actually pretty good for this) made this session lots of fun. I think she had a lot of fun getting eaten out. The room was pretty nice (probably why the price was 415,000), with an expansive side mirror giving me good views of us fucking. I also liked looking up into Hilda's smiling face as she rode me; she was cute in the way comedian Amy Schumer is hot, where personality boosts looks.

A return to FM1 was a must, with the hopes of getting together with Nancy again. I actually had planned to do be'Fashion Hotel spa first that evening, but my taxi driver did not know where it was, so I had him drop me at FM1 when we passed it. The evening was young so I first checked out the spa, where only a few girls sat waiting (I did meet a guy from my home country paying at the counter, so we had a little chat in Arabic). But at 550,000 Rupiahs for the spa girls I declined, unable to see how they were worth double the price of the girls upstairs.

Up at the lounge I learned from the mamasan that Nancy was on her period and so out for a few days. This is something that had happened at least twice to me in Jakarta, having an amazing session with a girl and then finding her missing when I returned, thanks to her monthly visitor.

I still had choices, and there was one very choice girl sitting there on the couch. She had a face that had only hints of east-Asian features, looking almost like a Latina. More than this, she looked like a model, in body as well as her tight skirt revealed. And yet she was still in the 275,000 Rupiah price category, half that of a few girls on the facing couches whose appearance was decidedly mediocre. In Indonesia, you do NOT get what you pay for, and that is a good thing!

Eka was eating noodles, however, so I decided to let her finish before having the mama summon her. The look on her face when this happened did not inspire confidence. Not utter bule-revulsion, maybe, but still she did not appear enthusiastic, no smile evident. When she came over to me she right away asked if I wanted a second girl to join. I hadn't had a threesome yet on this trip, so decided yes. But I've come to be so wary of Indonesian threesomes, which have 9 times out of 10 been underwhelming; this is one area in Jakarta mongering where low prices are linked with a mediocre product.

I motioned to the girl in a red dress who had been sitting next to Eka, and we all proceeded to the floor of rooms. Ewa was her name and she was similarly tepid in her greeting; standing together waiting for a room to become available was uncomfortable and awkward.

Inside the room it was a bit better, partly because I had distractions, number one being the insanely hot body of Ewa, in view after she stripped off her red dress. Her curvy ass and pefectly round, large boobs on a slender frame were mouth watering, and made you understand where they got the inspiration for the sexy stone goddess carvings from ancient temples in this part of the world. What I really loved was that body combined with a very cute, almost innocent, face. With top model Eka in the mix, this session would be a satisfying optifick if nothing else.

That is what is basically was. Model Eka did warm up to me more, and took the role of the girl I focused more attention on as usually happens with my threesomes. Both girls did put in reasonable effort, but without kissing, and DATY only available on Eka, there was little passion. Part of this was due to Ewa's hygeine fetish, using tissues to wipe off every part of my body as soon as she kissed or licked it, afterward leaving a blanket of crumpled kleenex on the floor. When we still had some time remaining at the end of the session, the girls tried to engage me a bit, but in a turnaround I ignored them as I was busy messaging someone on my phone, which I found somehow satisfying. Still, you can't beat some time in the sack with two hotties like these as at less than 50 bucks.

Back in the lounge later the dancers from the other night were back, and I dutifully bought a few lady drinks in return for some titty grabbing. I put a tighter limit on the number I bought for them, finding it unacceptable to pay more for a fondle than for a fuck, as I had done on my previous visit.

With half of my trip over it was high time to get back with one of my favorite ladies at Berlian massage parlor. No venues were closer to my hotel than Berlian and its neigbors Kartika and Royal Mas in the first alleyway down from Mangaa Besar, but it did mean crossing that busy street which required keeping my wits about me.

One thing was sure, Kartika was scratched firmly off my list, having sworn that I would not return after high prices and pushy MILFs on a previous visit to Jakarta. Royal Mas I was considering for later, but I wanted to reunite with cute Irna at Berlian. I arrived at around 11 AM and the place was open but Irna had not yet come, so the desk girl called her and after a short wait Irna arrived. I paid the very reasonable 300,000 price and I was ushered up to a simple but clean room (curtained off instead of a door).

We greeted each other with a hug and Irna's shy, brace-full smile warmed my heart. Of course, I well knew that I was more into Irna than she into me, she must have thought this bule a bit strange for summoning her every time he came into town. But we still had a lovely session together, with some very hot mutual oral sex, and Irna getting really sweated up riding me cowgirl. I loved wrapping my arms around her, clutching her breasts, and finishing with a strong cum taking her from behind as she lay flat.

Exhausted (me in part from jet lag and my busy trip activities so far), we collapsed in each other's arms and snoozed for a while. With her body next to me I started to again feel desire, but decided against another session right away, as time was running out. I'm not sure if it reveals a closeness in her comfort with me, or her practical view of things, but after dressing I opened my wallet and first fingered a 50,000 note, and Irna quickly reminded me of the 100,000's behind it that would make a better tip! So it did, and I told Irna that I would be back to see her again soon.

While my goal had been to try new places on this trip, I also didn't want to overlook the advantage of my hotel location. Visiting Berlian was part of that. Another nearby venue was Illigals, just another block or so away on Hayam Wuruk, which represented some unfinished business for me. On a previous visit I had gotten just a legitimate massage and used the good spa facilities, without taking a girl, so I wanted to go further this time.

Once in shorts and robe I entered the main room and approached a mamasan to ask about what was on offer. I probably should have done the spa stuff first as I had planned, but her salesmanship got me on the path to a room in a hurry. She told me that the day's special was a four hand massage, clever language for a threesome, for a total of about 1. 2 million Rupiah.

She steered me to three girls whom she said spoke English, and they were on par with the other 10 or so girls there, kind of cute but nothing exceptional. All three girls wore teddy lingerie, but that was where the similarity ended. One girl, Ola, was quite skinny with a very cute, young face, Yuli was more medium in build, and the third was a full-sized girl, chubby and tall and cute with full boobs. What I should have done was to go with the girls who made for the greatest contrast, which would have been most interesting, But instead I went for the two smaller girls.

At the start, like my earlier threesome, there was little connection or chemistry. And throughout the session the girls did their jobs, but there was not a lot of heart in it. That said, skinny Ola seemed to warm up to me a bit and me to her. The problem was that it was barely possible to fuck her, her pussy was so small. I could manage to get my dick inside only part way, so Yuli ended up taking the brunt of the fucking. So in the end I got the same kind of experience as I would at a place like Classic or Travel, but at three times the price.

There was the spa to take advantage of, but even here Illigals missed: the sauna was not much more than lukewarm, and I could not use the pools due to the dancers' show taking place nearby. The dancers wore lingerie, so the lack of nudity was a minus (granted, it was only 7 PM). My biggest gripe was that while sitting in the sauna the waitress came in with two dancers trolling for lady drinks! They were not rewarded for this.

This was the night when I finally got to catch up with a forum friend. We met at my hotel and headed out on the town, by my request to M-Star, near Mangaa Dua mall, so I could check out another new place. My taxi driver had been unable to find it the night before and now I realized why, the place was all dark. He hopped out of the cab to check it out and came back to report that someone told him it had been ordered closed recently, apparently for not paying the right person we later learned.

So where to go? On my last visit he had introduced me to King's Cross, so we decided on a replay. Once out there we looked into MTR but the music was so deafening that we left quickly. At King's Cross we first checked out the fifth floor lounge and the foreign imports, who apparently were all from Vietnam. There were a few excellent looking women, but at a price of something like 1. 5 juta we opted to head to the ground floor.

There we got a table between the stage with topless dancers and the couches where the lower priced girls sat (we could see no difference from the more costly ones on the other side of the room). As I scanned the group one girl at the end immediately began waving at me with a big smile, and giggling with her friend whenever I would return her gaze. We played this kind of peek-a-boo for a while as I looked back and forth, and this all made it an easy decision on whom to pick, though the selection was rather good and I was spoiled for choice.

I called her over and my friend likewise for his choice, and we had drinks with the girls, me and my girl enjoying lots of banter and laughing, the smidgen of each other's language we possessed helping things along. We finished our drinks and me and Onya and my buddy and his girl headed upstairs to the rooms, our girls looking like sisters in matching black skirts and cobalt blue blouses.

I had such a good vibe about Onya, and in the room things were as I expected. We got right to kissing. She was very good at it. And fell onto the bed, Onya on top of me, as I ran my hands under her skirt and grabbed her ass. We began pulling off each other's clothes, and now I could really see what a great body she had. Despite a trim frame, Onya had large tits and the aforementioned curvy ass.

In short, we had some great sex. Onya's face said it all when I ground deeply into her in missionary, and I loved squeezing her full boobs while she rode me. Her ass was made for doggy style so that's how we finished, my body flat against hers as I shot my load. As we cleaned up and traded contacts (though I never got back to King's Cross to see her again), she told me that this had been her first or second night at the club, maybe explaining why this was such a GFE session.

Keeping with the theme of staying local, my first stop of my sixth day was at Royal Mas on the Kartika alleyway off Hayam Wuruk. I had found a cute, friendly girl there two trips ago. This time, like back then, the papasan was very friendly (in a way I appreciated), and though a small bar the place had a dozen or so girls to choose among, most of them attractive enough (certainly no worse than Maribaya, but younger), all wearing a themed outfit for the day.

I settled on a petite girl who smiled at me as I was pondering my choice. Her name, Nikki, fit her sunny personality. With a pony tail flipped over to the side, dimples, and impossibly long eyelashes, she was super cute. She took my hand as we headed upstairs, where I paid one of the staff the amazingly low price of 260,000 Rupiah.

Once in the room we hugged and got acquainted, with lots of laughs despite the language barrier. As Nikki slipped off her dress with a sexy, smiley strip-tease, I could see how compact and curvy her tight little body was. When she unexpectedly asked me if I wanted a soapy body massage, I quickly said yes and showered while she stripped the bed down to the plastic mattress. When I lay down she soaped my back and began vigorously sliding over me with her naked body. Her tits were not large, but Nikki's nipples were pointy and felt great on my back, as did her pussy grinding against my butt.

After I made the flip Nikki soaped up the front of my body before moving on to some more slipping and sliding, paying special attention to my dick with her firm titties. When she straddled my cock and held still for a moment I ran my hands up and down that slippery, tight little body, grabbing her soapy boobs as best I could.

With this portion of the program brought to an end, we showered and once toweled off I embraced Nikki and bent down to meet her mouth in a kiss. I lay down for a blow job but then pulled Nikki up to sit on my face. Once I got her pussy nice and wet we got onto fucking. I loved clasping Nikki's hips as she rocked back and fotrth in cowgirl, but it all came to a great finish with her showing off her round ass doggy style, until I lay her flat on her stomach to take my cum. As we said our goodbyes, I let Nikki know that I would definitely be back.

A day in Jakarta without some sort of wellness is not a complete day, especially given how cheap these services are, even the legit ones. So a spa visit was in order, and one place I had heard about was V2 on Hayam Wuruk, whose club I had briefly seen their club on my first night. I got to the spa at 5 PM which turned out to be a mistake, since I arrived from the locker room into the main area just in time to see the girls file out from the fishbowl, to destination unknown, and it was a good half hour until any returned.

But this did give me good chance to try out the facilities, and it was an impresive place in some ways (though not as swank and new as Illigals). The fishbowl I mentioned ran the length of the long main room, and was very well lit, good for viewing the girls. A row of small table booths ran in front of it so you could check out the ladies while eating, and along the length of the far wall were three large hot, warm, and cold pools, ideal for lounging around while you deliberated on which girl you wanted to select after your soak. On a side wall there was a steam room next to the sauna whose glass wall also allowed some views into the fishbowl. The sauna also was properly super-hot, unlike the tepid one at Iligals.

So V2 had an excellent layout. As for the girls, that was something else. Besides the dopey shift change I ran up against, the girls that day the girls were all wearing jeans and white button shirts, outfits lousy for judging their bodies. While the girls looked fine, there was nothing exceptional about them. The desk staff told me that they went for either 700,000 or 1+ juta, but I never learned which ones were in which category. It didn't matter, since there was no distinction in looks to justify it. Simply put, there was no hook, nothing making me want to choose any of these ladies, so I just enjoyed the pools and sauna before paying the 120,000 facilities charge and leaving.

The evening had just begun and I had plenty of time before going out on the town for the night. I decided again to stay near my hotel for some fun and paid another visit to Berlian, where Irna was waiting, and we had another lovely time together. That was sweet, but now I was hoping for something more raunchy for the night.

Kota would be the place to find a bar with some nude dancers, and so I met up with a friend at the bar in the ruko I visited the other day. There was other familiar company too, a couple of the dancers from FM1, from which I gleaned that the dancers rotated among bars. Which surprised me given the swankiness of FM1 vs, the present joint's working-class ambiance. I enjoyed the enthusiastic greeting (and barenaked boobs and wriggling behinds) of the dancers, but it did mean shelling out for lady drinks. I held the line this night with a reasonable number of drinks, especially since, surprisingly, shots here were 50,000 each compared with the 30 K at FM1.

Again the mamasans set me up in a big way, ensuring I had pleasing company. With my friend and his buddy squeezed in next to their own girls, I felt a bit incomplete all alone. This was rectified in a flash, as a cute young thing materialized beside me. Tiny Marsha and I instantly had a great comfort level. Placing my arm around her shoulders and Marsha caressing my chest, we made an immediate physical connection. Out smiles communicated deeper affection, and I said cheers to my mates as I got up to pay the cashier the 315,000 and let Marsha escort me up to the room, my eyes fixed on the little black dress clinging to her tiny frame.

Once we were on our own the chemistry between us was apparent right away, as we chatted and joked in our limited vocabularies. I wrapped Marsha's doll-like body in my arms and met her lips with a sweet kiss, gradually dropping my hands lower to cup her squeezable ass cheeks and draw the hem of her skirt upward and over her head to reveal the skimpy black panties and bra underneath.

These too fell prey to my fingers as I slipped them off while continuing to kiss Marsha. She reciprocated by getting me undressed and into the shower, where she ran her hands over my body soaping me up and rinsing me down, cupping my balls and stroking my shaft as she looked up into my eyes with the face of an angel and the smile of a devil.

On to the bed, where I had Marsha lie back to lick her pussy, which got progressively wetter as she squirmed. She was a bit ticklish (helping me learn my favorite Bahasa word, geli), so could not take this too long so she had me lie back. At this point Marsha gave me what was possibly the best catbath of my life, her warm tongue giving me goosebumps. Things got even better when she reached my cock and took it in her mouth. I could take her delicious sucking for only so long, until I motioned for her to mount me; she applied a condom and then complied with my request, lowering herself slowly onto my dick and riding me with increasing speed.

From here we shifted to missionary, a great chance for me to kiss Marsha and dip down to lick Marsha's perky nipples. With all this activity our time was running out, but I could not let sex this incredible, with such a special girl, draw to a close so soon. So I extended to another hour (after that was completed I just paid the bar afterward, something I appreciated rather than have to be distracted by arranging the payment during the session). Over the course of the second hour Marsha deepened our connection with more humor, cuddling, caressing, licking, sucking, and sensual sex. I was tired, but Marsha gave herself over completely to ensuring my pleasure, for which I was exceedingly grateful. As we fondly said our goodbyes I told her I would be back the next day, and on my way out of the bar I made sure to thank the mamasan for setting me up with this fantastic girl.

I've established a practice on the final days of my visits to Jakarta to try to repeat with girls that I have enjoyed. Despite the fun I had exploring new venues, with limited time due to a midnight flight out, it felt right to stay with the tried and true. It also meant eliminating some fun possibilities: I was not certain Nancy would be back at FM1 but the potential Friday traffic made a visit there fraught with difficulty; the distance to King's Cross made it unrealistic to seek out Onya there. I did try to book Yanny at Orchardz, but the language barrier thwarted my attempted phone booking (plus I had forgotten her masseuse number, remembering only her name which did not help much).

Fortunately, some of my best experiences were within striking distance. I began with a late-morning visit to Royal Mas to see Nikki. I had to come back after a half hour as she was with another guest, but when I finally got to see her she greeted me with a big smile. Upstairs she treated me to another slippery and sensual soapie, followed by some vigorous shagging of her tight little body. I loved this kewpie-doll of a girl, so unbelievably cute and friendly. More unbelievable was that all this came at a price that barely crossed the 20 dollar mark.

Though I had more repeat visits to make, having Sun City Club just a couple of blocks north of my hotel on Hayam Wuruk made it imperative to at least check it out. Well, the place was nearby as the crow flies, but thanks to the maze that is the Lindeteves Trade Center mall, on whose 6th floor Sun City is located, it took over half an hour just within that befuddling building. The mall, specialized in construction materials, is as unlikely a location as you could imagine for a swank sex club. Getting through the mall itself was like navigating an Escher painting, with elevators that moved in slow motion and only went to certain floors, and few signs, which were mostly misleading (news flash: accurate signs for how to find a stairwell, without getting routed to a dead end, is useful to have in a big building). I think keeping Sun City off the beaten path was by design; guests must typically arrive by car to make very discreet entrances. At the time this should have signaled to me how exclusive (and expensive) the place was.

But that is something I realized once I entered Sun City's main lobby and entrance hallways, clad entirely in marble with soaring ceilings and mirrors in gilded frames (a drastic contrast with the plain mall). The place felt like a palace or the receiving rooms in a foreign ministry building. It was completely empty, and I wandered the halls a bit before finding an employee to direct me to the spa.

That had more of a Japanese feel to it, with lots of wood and water, and two cute receptionists. One walked me over to the locker rooms, giving me all the details. The cover charge for the facilities and real massage was about 300,000, and then in the room I would negotiate with the girl for extra services, but she then told me that the price for that would be something like 1. 7 million Rupiah. The women were Chinese, she told me, but if I decided to take a massage I would not have the chance to select my masseuse, one would be provided sight unseen. What 2-Juta stratospheric price did not do to make me do an about-face, this inability to select the girl did. So I thanked her and left.

Besides mall-exploring and sex, pirated DVD shopping was on my to-do list up at Glodok Plaza, but another essential item to be ticked was a return visit to see cutie Marsha. I was hoping against a replay of FM1 where my great girl was a no-show at work the next day. Fortunately this time, my girl was there and I just had to wait a bit for her to finish her beauty regimen here in the mid-afternoon.

Marsha was such an adorable young thing that once we were in the room my teacher-student fantasy washed over me. As Marsha sat on the edge of the bed and I stood there fully-dressed, I gently pushed her back and hiked up her sexy short skirt. Unzipping my fly and maneuvering my rock-hard cock out of my pants, I leaned in and pulled the crotch of her sheer black panties aside and placed the head of my cock on Marsha's warm pussy lips. She gave a half-hearted cluck of disapproval but then nodded when I pushed my throbbing boner into her tight, hot vagina. I built up a rhythm as I looked down at her face, our eyes locked on each other.

We soon shed more clothing and Marsha climbed on top to ride me. Throughout the rest of our two hours together I held her small body close as we fucked. We alternated between penetration and oral play, as Marsha would apply her hot little tongue from my toes to all points north with her exquisite cat-bath skills. Throughout this time together we would exchange smiles and Marsha would tease me playfully. I was sad to see it all come to an end but like all good things it had to run its course, and I parted with Marsha with a mixture of elation and sadness. I let the prospects of the remainder of my busy day take my mind off the latter.

Only one more appointment remained for this Jakarta visit. After I finished at Royal Mas in the morning I stopped by Berlian to arrange an evening appointment with Irna, to guarantee she would be the capstone to my trip. When I turned up at 7:30 there she was, with her adorable shy smile, braces showing between her soft lips. To show my appreciation for facilitating all this, I gave the mamasan (also named Irna, tiny in stature but big in personality) a warm hug and the tip she solicited.

Then it was up to the room with Irna, my island girl, her brown skin, jet black hair, and precious face out of a Henri Matisse painting. Another sweet session followed, the whole time my eyes drawn to the mirror beside the bed to watch her small naked body against mine, our skin glistening as we perspired from our exertions. We parted with a hug as I promised to be back on my next trip to Jakarta, hoping for a reprise of our time together. Then it was off to the hotel for me to pick up my bag and settle in for the cab ride to the airport, exhausted but happy: it had been a good trip.

[QUOTE=IbnButtita;1814844]*snip* Then it was off to the hotel for me to pick up my bag and settle in for the cab ride to the airport, exhausted but happy: it had been a good trip.[/QUOTE]Exhausted for sure! Sounds like it was a great week. Thanks for sharing. TTG.

[QUOTE=IbnButtita;1814844]I've established a practice on the final days of my visits to Jakarta to try to repeat with girls that I have enjoyed. Despite the fun I had exploring new venues.
Then it was off to the hotel for me to pick up my bag and settle in for the cab ride to the airport, exhausted but happy: it had been a good trip.[/QUOTE]Absolutely great report IBN BUTTITA: Shukran Habibi Shukran:

It seems Jakarta is an awesome cheap place for outstanding south Asian Latino fun. I've had some indo girls in HK but Jakarta is cheap and these girls are so GFE you can just go on and on and on. What we pay here in Dubai is outrageous as the prices you have mentioned for the fun you have had is almost nothing. I think the price you paid for 7 days of mongering is what we end up wasting in 1 night or max 2 nights. DXB is outrageously expensive no wonder all EE and European girls want to work here than in any other part of the world. Crazy it is:

Anyhow a great report and thanks in advance from all of the newbies, Jakarta is the new place we want to visit.

Alex

Ibn Buttita, one thing for sure is that you are adventurous. Some of those places you went are rarely ever mentioned here on this forum. I always find it strange that the same places like Travel and Classic are mentioned over and over and over again on this forum when there are hundreds of places to go in this city. Excellent reports!

Great series of reports IBN! Really helpful. Although I have visited most of the places you did, there are a few that I missed that I am now interested in checking out, e.g.. , Orchardz (actually, on one of the holidays when the Penjay Kotah Indah places were closed for a holiday, I was directed to Orchardzf on Pangaran Jayakarta, but it was closed too, so never got over there when it was open). It is kind of funny how many restrict themselves to Classic or Travel in North Jakarta, when from a service standpoint they are probably the worst places.

Marioboro might be a bit better, but there are plenty of other options in that area, many of which offer equal or better service for less cost.

Anyway, thanks again for sharing your experiences.

Thanks all, it was definitely my pleasure to revisit the memories of my visit with the reports. I have to say.

There's some really good forum guys in Jakarta, who've been great guides to me, like EgyMonger (who has set me.

Up at Kings Cross multiple times now! And Smoothy, I visited a number of those places based on that.

Report of yours without even knowing who wrote it, so thanks for the guidance from that.

On that note, places like Ruko Robinson do have possibilities, the King's Cross area has so many places.

In that neighborhood most of which I did not try, there's so many options that it's almost scary. The big takeaway I think is that in Jakarta it is an inverse proportion, in my opinion.

Between price and quality, but I did like the places like Orchardz that cost a little more but the whole.

Experience of getting pampered plus the sex was part of what made the holiday.

Alex7 J, maybe in Dubai there is a little bit of that value too with the Pinays vs. The Eastern Europeans and Russians? But there the base-line is so high.

That you (and I as I remember from a couple of visits) do have to pay a lot more than desired.

Just returned from my trip to Jakarta, and will periodically write reviews on various places I have visited. This may be my last foray to JKTA, I may return to visit Bandung, but have my eyes set on other places such as Phnom Penh next time.

BFashion Hotel.

Lots of Hype behind BFashion Hotel, so wanted to check it out. Left rather disappointed and feeling there are better options considering the cost and my time spent. Since it is an actual hotel (where people stay at) it may be a good option if you are coming in from a late flight, and want a place fairly close to the airport where all the 'entertainment' is in the same building.

O'ppai lounge: Arrived around 11 pm on a weekday and quite dead. Only one of 3-4 groups of customers. Dancers dance in groups of 5, including Thai dancers. Quality of dancers would rate 6/10 in looks. Entrance fee is 100 k including drink (beer or whiskey coke). Not nearly the same amount of energy and vibe you would experience at Tease or Malio Club. Low ceilings. Hear there is a shower show on Fridays, but this visit did not please me enough to come back. As usual, dancers will harrass you for LDs.

Spa: After you dress into your robe, you may enter the Lounge on left side to select FS gals. There were about 12 on display, quality about 6-7/10 dressed in full gown. A few SYTs, 1-2 CFM types but nothing to my liking. Price is 1 Juta. For the same price, I would rather goto Emporium spa, as they have better facilities and slightly better looking girls. Since the FS gals were disapointing, went to check out the massage gals on right side (see the main counter upon exit of changeroom, and there is prices menu). Prices ranged from 300-600 k for massage gals depending on service, but disapointed that I could only choose these gals based on handphone pics, and not in person. Left BFashion rather dissapointed, and did not get any action.

Overall Rating (4/10), I give BFashion a miss. There are better options for the $, such as Emporium, KC, Classic, etc. I'm sure there are some gems at BFashion, and better selection on Weds-Sat, but given the location (Grogol), time to travel there, and potential for failure, I've written this place off in my future visits unless someone convinces me otherwise. I would have had a better time had the bro who joined me wasn't as much of a pussy than the ladies in there.

Gents, below report from a Jakarta resident thought Id the share a little about my activities over NYE week in the capital. Starting on Sunday met up with a previously met 27 yr SKOUT girl, took to my house for a two sessions and lots of drinking. No money paid, no condom and no cum inside.

Monday night, met up after work with a 21 yr girl, this time a hotel on Sabang for real GFE passionate session. She was a hijab virgin and a maid when I first met her, whom I have been seeing now for 2 yrs, originally off wechat. Its kinda cool when a your fucking a girl hard and she's is begging you with 'oohhh mister fuck me harder' I love the 'oohh mister' comments. She wants a double penetration so we practiced that with me in the ass and vibrator in her pussy. A fellow forum member, who is in town next month has volunteered to join so we talked about that a lot and she is really excited about it. Anyway, after first pop off to Garuda padang on sabang (Garuda sells beer :) ), this girl is real kampung and eats with her fingers. Hahaha. After that back to the room for another pop. No money spent except hotel and dinner (and a vibrator and perfume gift). No condom, but no cum inside, except ass.

Tuesday night, after work went to a legit massage place. No happy ending, but full nude massage performed I love that mixture of exhibitionist and self control with a raging hardon and the girl massaging your thighs and belly with your cock staring her in the face. Then met up with an old flame for dinner we didn't go back to a room, but we planned to this week, so that should be good. She is a no condom, no cum inside and no anal girl. She is 33 yr business executive and very picky, doesn't like Indo men. Hence hasn't had sex since me about a year ago, so I know when we meet she will go off. Went home with no sex, but I needed a rest anyway.

Wednesday lunch met up with another 29yr ex-skout business woman, great lunch and kinky talk, she paid half for lunch. She owns her own house (small ok) and car and also doesn't like to screw Indo men, she was 2 yrs without sex first time I met her. She doesn't want to goto my house or a hotel and her mother is in Jakarta for New Yr, so she didn't want to do anything. She is no condom and cum inside girl, but no anal. Headed off to Kalibata city for a pre-arranged after work twitter hooker fuck, so what happens here is for about a 4week period, some guy rents a room and 5 girls work there, they live there, its during school and uni holidays. The room was typical of young girls living together - empty cigarette packets everywhere, clothes hanging all over the place, dirty bathroom, fridge empty, except for water. The price was 800k, of that a 200k deposit - you arrive at the lobby and the girl appears. It was so weird and exciting to be sitting in a 2 bedroom apt, with 5 girls who were there during their school holidays - they were all so sweet and with little little english - between 18 (maybe?) and 21, all giggly. Pretty good GFE with the girl Gege I had including DATY and BBBJ, and great firm tits - I opted for a condom which meant I had to pound her hard. Funny to be pounding away and the girlfriends are in the room next door watching tv no doubt hearing the bed bashing the wall, when I left another punter turned up- I'm not sure how many they do an hour, but it was 2 bedrooms and just me for most of the 45mins I was there.

Thursday night, new years eve as I couldnt find anyone to party with - I met up again with my Skout girl from Sunday night. And spent NYE out then in a villa in the south, fucked a total of 5 times in two days. Included anal sex, pool sex, and a whole day spent naked in the pool, no condom and no cum inside, except ass. No money spent (except NYE drinks) she left midday Saturday. Pics in photo gallery.

Saturday afternoon, picked up a hijab girls number whilst getting phone card topup will see how that goes, cute thin and young and can't wait to get her naked, been texting already.

Sunday, decided to treat myself to a lunchtime FJ massage. Off to Kartika, about 12 girls working, of which 4 or 5 I would do, but its always hard to tell in the low light. Chose Leah, who was maybe 30, 3 kids from Semarang, small tits which is unusual for a Kartika girl, usual overuse of white makeup, but a really really hairy Bush, which is unusual for a hooker. Anyway, the typical awesome soapy massage, finishing in blowjob and FJ, somehow she even slipped a condom on and I didn't even notice, I never had this before, I asked her for the condom and she said sudah, so I'm like ok lets go. Session ended, she question why I didn't produce much cum (because I'm fucking drained!) photos in gallery, hard to get a good pic because she wouldn't really let me.

My phone is going crazy with Wechat, Skout, tinder.... Gents it is so easy to score, these girls love white guys and most don't want anymore than dinner, drinks and someone who treats them nice and fucks them hard. And they don't care how many girlfriends you have, so long as you are nice to them when you are with them. This week I will meet some fresh blood and see how that goes.

Now wheres the triple lecithin :)

[QUOTE=MasBule;1821685]Tuesday night, after work went to a legit massage place. No happy ending, but full nude massage performed [/QUOTE]Thanks for your post with lots of useful information. Where did you get the massage? This sounds like a great experience.

[QUOTE=EshBoston;1822212]Thanks for your post with lots of useful information. Where did you get the massage? This sounds like a great experience.[/QUOTE]I get these all the time, at legit places like Mitra Sehat or Bersih Sehat. At todays exchange rates. At $10 USD, why wouldn't you?

Not usually a problem, sometimes they throw the towel back on when you roll onto your front. Sometimes not.

It actually allows them to massage you better anyway. Long strokes over your butt, instead of being interfered with by a rogue towel.

Try get a nude massage in the west and they will call the cops. Asia no problem at all.

[QUOTE=MasBule;1821685]Gents, below report from a Jakarta resident thought Id the share a little about my activities over NYE week in the capital. Starting on Sunday met up with a previously met 27 yr SKOUT girl, took to my house for a two sessions and lots of drinking. No money paid, no condom and no cum inside.
[/QUOTE]And so on. And so on.

Pardon, but do you actually think it's cool to bang around with no condom on? We might end up with the stuff you are spreading around!

[QUOTE=Thowa;1823052]*snip* We might end up with the stuff you are spreading around![/QUOTE]Not if we use a condom. Let's not launch a safe sex debate (again). For the record, I liked Masbule's report.

Two thumbs up for MasBule's report.

[QUOTE=Thowa;1823052]And so on. And so on.
Pardon, but do you actually think it's cool to bang around with no condom on? We might end up with the stuff you are spreading around![/QUOTE]That was an incredible first post in this forum. Chock full of information and interesting suggestions; I have to say it's members like you that keep this website buzzing and alive. Do have a happy new year as it seems you have started with getting out of the wrong side of the bed - which seems to be the opposite of MasBule's new year where he could barely get out of bed.

While I'm at it, what a terrible FR MasBule: it makes me positively fraught with jealousy and unabated envy (at least until I can get my butt over to Indonesia again later this month). I am concerned with the state of your health as you're searching for Lecithin. Clearly you have hypo-spermatotitis (shortage of the little swimmers) as opposed to my current condition of hyper-spermatotitis (it's coming out of my eyes dammit)! I follow a similar procedure in hooking up, but have yet to try Skout; I'm not a bule, but I do okay. I have heard similar things from the girls as they want a foreigner as oppose to a local guy, albeit that it's somewhat akin to shooting fish in a barrel if you're a bule. Perhaps some of us should arrange a little get together for a chat one of these days.

MD II.

[B]December 21(Day 1: Monday)
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Touchdown at CGK at around 12 pm from Singapore. I started the trip with a mistake, but then it was Christmas time, so I guess some saint must be watching over me. I walked towards VOA counter, got into the queue to pay VISA fees which I remembered from last time. I was carrying 35 USD in exact change to avoid getting ripped in exchange returned like my earlier visit. I paid the VISA fees and got into the queue to get the VISA stamped on my passport. There were hardly 2 or 3 people around getting their VISA processed. The officer asked me the reason and duration of my visit. I told him I was there for tourism and would stay around 5 days. He then signaled me to come close to the counter. He told me that he would help me get a free VISA and my money could be refunded. I told him thank you and asked him how that can be done. He told me that if I did something for him then he could help me. I sensed bribe and nodded positively to him. He then asked me to go back to the cash counter and get my money refunded. I left my passport with him and went back and got my 35 USD refunded. By the time I was back he had already stamped my passport with a small VISA, not the sticker I got on my last visit. It was valid for 15 days. He then asked me what I was going to do for him. I just laid out the 20,10 and 5 dollar notes on his counter and asked him to take what he wanted. He looked around and picked a tenner. So it's confirmed now that if you are travelling for tourism and up to 15 days you get free entry into Indonesia. He showed me a list of countries for which this courtesy had been granted and is also available online if you need to check for yours.

I got out and smoked thinking the tenner could have been avoided if I knew for sure about this VISA rule. I immediately got a Bluebird taxi to my Hotel, thankful there was no queue. I had booked 5 nights in Mercure Kota, Executive room again for my stay in Jakarta basis my earlier experience. The room costed me approx. 395 SGD without breakfast.

I got myself a new 4 G connection and instantly fired up Wechat and Badoo for prospects. Changed dollars and got a good rate of 16500 IDR per USD. Was offered lower but I quoted and was given higher rate. I went back to my room and relaxed for a while.

[B]Malioboro
[/B]I was waiting for this experience for quite some time. I got in around 9.30 pm collected my token and moved straight to Malio Club. I walked around the entire club. Good set of girls on the sofas seated to the left and right of the entrance, local as well as imports, mainly Viets. Hot dancers on stage as usual and some were moving around sharking for drinks. I got myself seated and like sharks the girls pounced upon me. Usual pleasantries. Some were straight enough and asked whether I can buy drinks for them. I told them to leave me alone for some time. They left but 1 remained seated around me. I ordered for a Corona and started sipping slowly taking in the ambience. I had a good look at the girls on stage and the bikini girls around. The girl seated beside me was trying to warm me up with some conversation. Her name was Rishma. She was a slim gazelle with a decent rack and pouty lips. I gave in and bought her 2 tequila shots (91k IDR each). The drinks got her into a mood and she then made some space between my stool and the the table and squeezed herself in. Some good kisses and smooching started. She got my hands on her B sized rack and was helping me massage them. She had natural ones and I was loving their feel.. Rishma smelled and tasted sweet. She then removed her top and let loose her breasts. I was now getting a good grip on them and she was also enjoying it. She started massaging my tool with one hand while holding my left hand on her breast. I immediately got my hand in her panties which she stopped. She then looked around and I got the message that I would not be able to get my hands inside her panties. Not where we were, at least. I refrained and we continued. I was having a good time with a stunning girl. 2 more drinks ordered and now Rishma was really getting me in the mood. I managed to get my hand inside her panties, clean shaven she was soft and moist. I got a good feel of her and she was clearly enjoying it. We smooched some more and now I really wanted her. 2 more drinks followed. I asked her whether she would like to go to a room with me to which she agreed. I was not anticipating a positive response hence to reconfirm I asked her whether she would have sex. She declined. She told me that she could only give me a BJ and it would cost me 20 drinks. Fuck! This ruined my mood. I asked the guy standing behind me to call for the mamas an. I was hard and had to get my load off. She came and wrote down the prices of locals I wanted. Two categories of girls - 800k IDR and 1.5 Mill IDR. Imports were priced 2 Million IDR. I asked her to show me both sets of girls. As soon as the girls came Rishma got up and vanished. Protocol, it seemed to me. After spending time with a dancer its really difficult to choose a girl from the lot shown. They were beautiful but not as slim and toned as the dancers. I made my selection and the girl sat down next to me. I had chosen a girl purely on basis of body and looks and she turned out to be an 800k IDR girl. A drink for her and some chit chat. Soon we went away to the room.

Dewi was a sweet girl. Usual shower in room. Good session with her. She gave me good DFK but insisted on a CBJ, what a bummer. She was flexible on the positions. Enjoyed with her for a brief time. Tipped her 100k IDR

Overall experience: 7/10.

I went to Malioboro Lounge to check out the scene there. Few local girls, some Chinese and Uzbek girls as well. Mamasan came to me asking to choose her Chinese girls which I declined. I wanted to check out the dancers and see if any of them could be had. There were approx. 6 odd dancers and few were on the floor with guys drinking. Two came up to me but were not my type hence I asked them to come back later. I was more interested in the girl dancing but they seem to be busy chatting amongst themselves and dancing. It seemed to me that the girls asking for drinks and sitting were a different set compared to the ones dancing. Another dancer came up to me. She was slurring and seemed to have had one drink too many. She told me that she could go to a room with me. I politely declined looking at the state she was in. Had to ask her to go as she was quite insistent. She then asked if I could give her some money. I wasnt expecting this and said I couldnt. She eventually moved on.

The dancers then changed. New set of girls came and the earlier ones went and got themselves seated down the hall at the very end. None of them sharked for any drinks. Not seeing any lock with them I decided to call it a night and got back to Hotel.

I struck with a lady on Badoo back at the hotel named Ida and she seemed to be interested to meet me the next day evening. She was a working girl and would drop by my hotel after finishing her work. I told her that I would take her out for dinner and drinks to which she agreed. Pics looked good so I didnt mind taking a chance.

[B]December 22(Day 2: Tuesday)
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[B]Alexis Hotel
[/B]I reached Alexis around 5 pm. Got into the lift and straight up to the 7th Floor spa. As I was alone I was made to sit on the long chair by the mamasan. She then explained to me the options available. Imports were 2. 35 Mill whereas the local gals were 1. 35 mill. I knew the range as I had visited twice on my earlier trip. I ordered for a Corona and then had a good look at the girl available around. To my left were 5 Thai girls, 1 looked pretty. To my right at back were few Uzbeks, nothing fancy about them. To my right were the PRC girls, 7 of them but nothing to jump over. The Viets were slightly far on my left after the seating area. The largest crowd was of locals. I was here for them so told the mamasan about my requirement. Tall, slim and natural. She walked over to those 25 girls and described the requirement and started picking out girls. She got approx. 6 of them to my table. I had a good look at them and they were beautiful and smiling. Mamsan told me to remember their token no in case I liked anyone. I did and pointed her out. Thanked the rest and they walked away. Got her a drink. She sat beside me and was a good looking gal with slim toned body. Usual pleasantries. Her name was Aulia. Got up and went to change to meet her at the pool. She gave me a short face and back massage, got naughty in the pool.

Back in the room we showered and started kissing. She was very responsive and seemed to be comfortable with me. We lay on the bed for some time playing with each other. She then opened the Sagami I had given her. I knew I was going to get a CBJ here as well. She did a decent job. She kissed my inner thighs and my balls but wanted a condom for BJ. I just couldn't get my head around it and continued with the flow. We had sex in WOT, Miss and finished in doggy. Tipped her 100 k IDR cash. Not happy with CBJ at all. This was bumming me out now.

Overall experience: 7/10.

Not wanting to do another session of CBJ I decided to leave. My bill came up to approx. 1. 8 Mill with both drinks and a pack of Marlboros for the girl. I was carrying crisp 100 k notes. I counted 18 and gave it to the cashier. She took the notes and then ran it through an automatic counting machine. She told me that it was 17. I thought maybe I would have counted less. I gave her one more note and left. Back at the room I counted my cash again and I had 31 notes remaining. I had paid her 19. It was my mistake and I couldn't do anything about it.

The Badoo girl Ida had meanwhile arrived and was waiting in the hotel lobby for me. I froze when I saw her. She was at least 5 to 7 years older and plumper compared to the pics she had posted on her profile. I just didn't like her. She insisted on going to my room. Not wanting to create a scene in the lobby I took her to my room. We settled in and I told her that she was not the person I wanted to meet. She should have updated her current pics on the profile. She started cribbing. I told her that I had to go out and could not stay with her. I gave her 300 k IDR for taxi and all her troubles and got rid of her.

Overall experience: 0/10.

[B]Dragonfly / Immigrant:
[/B]I went to Immigrant around 11 pm. It was closed. I took a cab from there and went to Dragonfly. When I walked into the building basis Google maps the security guard told me that the club was based in another building across the road named BIP. I walked over there to find out that it was closed as well. Lesson learnt after spending 2 hours and almost 200 k IDR on Taxi fare is to avoid discos on Tuesday.

[B]December 23(Day 3: Wednesday)
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[B]Kings Cross:
[/B]I took a taxi for Kings cross around 5 pm from Kota. After a good 1. 30 HR and 80 k IDR plus in fare I managed to reach Kings Cross. Place was quite empty with few locals and Japanese guys around. The ground area had a lounge with seating area for girls on the left as well as the right hand corner. 50+ girls in total. Much better selection than Malioboro. I was quite bored with the long taxi ride and went up to the 2nd floor to get a massage. Small seating area with 15+ girls. Chose one, name was Dewi, seems to be common girl name in Jakarta.

600 k IDR for 90 minutes. Room was good. Got ourselves a drink. Dewi gave me a good 40 minute hard massage. We showered and got back on bed. A good ball licking session followed by CBJ (Bummer again) and some good kissing. I failed to understand the logic of licking everything around the shaft but not wanting to suck it. Didn't want to delve into it further and left as it is. Gave her 200 k IDR tip primarily for the massage.

Overall experience: 7. 5/10.

I came downstairs and settled into the seating area in the centre. I wanted to do another session considering the time and money spent in reaching Kings Cross. I had a few beers and got something to eat. There were some good girls and I could easily select 6 or 7. Unfortunately I had to restrict myself to only 1. I identified a girl and got the papasan to get her to my table. The girl was a real PYT. I liked her more when I saw her up close. Got her seated and ordered her a drink. Her name was Raisa. We went up to the room. Raisa was a cat. She started kissing me as soon as we entered the lift. I had to hold her till we got to the room. She was frenching me once inside. I was sensing a good time ahead. We got into shower and some deep kissing followed. To my surprise Raisa went down on me in the shower. Finally after 2 days I was getting a BBBJ. I let her continue. We got back on the bed and this PYT took charge. She kissed me all over and a deep sloppy BBBJ followed. I was completely taken aback by this sexual behavior from a cutie. We spent some more time kissing and cuddling. I got my rubber on and entered her in missionary. She sucked the juice out of my lips. We continued for some more time changing position to her on top and then doggy. I couldn't hold on more and finished soon. It was an amazing session. I got her contacts but unfortunately she could not meet me outside. She told me that she worked everyday and took a break only during her periods. What a bummer. I gave her 200 k IDR as tip and left. Both the girls costed same.

Overall experience: 8/10.

Kings Cross had really been worth all the trouble and cost to me. I really liked the place and quality of girls available.

[B]BATS / CJs:
[/B]I went to BATS around 11.30 pm. 165 k IDR entry charge for a Corona. Got myself seated by the bar. Hardly any crowd. Few old gals. Stuck around for some time. Some crowd did come in but nothing too my fancy. As I was about to leave two girls walked in and settled across me on the left side of the bar. Smiles exchanged one of them waved to me. I took my beer and walked up to them. General chit chat. They offered me threesome. I refused and told them that I could only take one. I then asked the girl I liked, named Pinky what it would cost me if I wanted to take her. Her reply was 200 USD for the night. I went cold. I didn't negotiate and was not going to pay that price to her. I got her no and told her that I will text her if I want her. I moved out and went to CJs.

Entry into CJ was 200 k IDR. Got my Corona and started scanning the place. Seemed lively with the band playing and there was a good crowd. I got offered a threesome for 3 Million IDR from two Indo oldies. LT for 1 Million IDR from an old and fat Uzbek. ST for 2 Million IDR from a sweet gal, expensive and lastly LT for 700 k from an old Indo lady. Liked another girl but she refused to travel to Kota and immediately got picked up by an old East Asian guy. I called it a night.

[B]December 24(Day 4: Thursday)
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[B]B Fashion spa
[/B]I went to be Fashion spa around 5 pm. You cannot choose girl for massage. They might show you 2 snaps if you insist and you need to decide basis that. Full service option is better at 800 k IDR. Picked a Javanese girl. Average Session. Light kissing and CBJ. Did not enjoy much. I would avoid this place in future.

Overall experience: 6/10.

[B]Malioboro
[/B]I went around 9 pm. Got a stunner to join me at Malio Club. Name was Yulia. Amazing body and great breasts. Light kisser. Spend good 40 minutes with her costing me 6 drinks. She was worth it. Unfortunately she also offered only a BJ for 20 drinks. I went to Malioboro Lounge to check out the dancers there. Same scene as earlier, girls dancing in the centre moved away to their seating area and were not accessible. Dancers who were on the floor sharking for drinks were not upto my fancy. I checked the local indo gal collection but again didn't find anyone to my taste. Girls at Kings Cross were indeed better.

Paid 700 k IDR and left.

[B]Dragonfly / Immigrant
[/B]I reached Dragonfly around 12 am. Paid 200 k IDR to get in. Decent crowd but mostly in groups. Had 2 shots of JD with cola. Moved around but didn't find anyone alone or approachable. Most of the girls were in groups or accompanied. No eye contact or prospect in sight so I moved on to Immigrant. I would avoid this places unless I am with people or am wanting to party here with some local friends.

Immigrant was slow as well. Hardly a crowd. Few girls around but not worth approaching. Stuck around for 45 minutes and left. CJs is a better option. I had been to North Jakarta clubs on my earlier trip like Colosseum and Golden Crown and didn't want to visit this time. With ZERO Bahasa my chances at picking up a local gal were considerably reduced or nonexistent.

[B]December 25(Day 5: Friday)
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[B]Sumo
[/B]After an amazing time at Kings Cross I returned to Kelapa Gading to check out Sumo. Being Christmas, holiday traffic was thin and I was here in 25 minutes. I got in and seated myself at the lounge. Approx 30+ girls available. Some of them really beautiful. Got mamasan to call 2 girls as I couldn't decide. Chose the better looking one when I saw both up close. Session cost was 900 k IDR for the girl. Room was decent. Girl name was Sari. Good body, perfect round arse and be sized breasts. She had a latino look on her face and body. Room was small but decent. Sari also turned out to be a cat in the room. BBBJ and multiple positions. Great kissing. Enjoyed my time with her very much. Sari came twice and was satiated. I had to let her rest for good 5 to 10 minutes after the session. Gave her 200 k IDR tip.

Overall experience: 8/10.

My visit to Kings Cross and Sumo had been good. I really liked the quality of girls available. Both places were small and no pushy papasan or mamasan. Girls were sweet, patient and flexible. I would definitely spend more time here on my next visit. Only bummer is the time required to travel from Kota.

[B]BATS/ CJs:
[/B]Being Christmas night I went with high expectations to BATS. It was just an average night there. Few girls' mostly old ones. Not wanting to waste time I immediately moved on to CJs. The crowd was much better. Within minutes of getting my beer had a cute girl approach me. She introduced herself as Nida. She was a salesgirl at a mall and came to CJs once in a while to supplement her income. We got chatting. I offered her a drink but she didn't consume alcohol so an orange juice was good enough for her. I liked her vibe and she was quite chirpy and sweet. She didn't want to do LT and I didn't want to let her go. She started with 2 and we eventually settled for 1 Million IDR for 3 hours. Back in the hotel she gave me a good 15 minute soothing back massage. Light kisser but good BBBJ. I had a good session with her. She wanted to finish with her on top and I obliged her. She cleaned me up after the act and put me to bed and left.

Overall experience: 7/10.

[B]The night scene has been same as my earlier trip, not very good. Options are really limited or not worth the money being asked for. After 5 days it just gets boring to visit the spas. The MO starts to feel extremely monotonous. I think it will be quite some time before I visit Jakarta again.
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Hey IllusionHeart, it sounds like you had a pretty good time in Jakarta and met some nice girls. After reading your report and Ibn Buttita's report I think I have to go to King's Cross. It is now at the top of my to do list. I love Malioboro too. It is presently my favorite bordello. I think some of their dancers are just amazing. Fortunately they never offered me a CBJ. I hope this covered crap is not a new trend. At Malioboro prices it would really sour me on the place. As to CJ's vs Bats: it was my experience too, the last time I was in Jakarta, that CJ's is much better with a ton more attractive girls. Why fight it? Last trip I met a semi pro at CJ's who has a regular 9 to 5 job. After we met I took her out 3 nights in a row. We still Line chat and I am looking forward to seeing her again. She is a darling, but danger danger, I think (I know) she wants a boyfriend and a family. Ha Ha. It ain't going to be me!

So although you had a good time in a few places and met some great gals, I was not all that surprised by your concluding comment and I think I know how you feel:

[QUOTE=IllusionHeart;1823670]The night scene has been same as my earlier trip, not very good. Options are really limited or not worth the money being asked for. After 5 days it just gets boring to visit the spas. The MO starts to feel extremely monotonous. I think it will be quite some time before I visit Jakarta again. [/QUOTE]

IMHO Megalopolis Jakarta, like Metro Manila, can feel a little cold and boring in the daytime when it is hard to get around and there is a lack of things to do until nighttime rolls around unlike Bangkok where there is always something to do. I part company with you on visiting Jakarta, however, because I think the Jakarta girls are worth the extra effort and trouble (? LOL). It is not that they are better ie better looking, better performing, or just better at GFE than Thai girls and they are definitely not cheaper. No, to me the reason I still want to return to Jakarta and can't seem to get enough of the girls here is because they are pretty and sexy in a slightly different way physically and culturally than Thai and Filipina girls and I crave this variety. Also I have never had a CBJ in Jakarta. I think this is a relatively small thing, but it would affect my thinking too if that became the default offering. Truth is I have barebacked or been offered bareback by quite a number of my girls so the opposite is my experience in Jakarta. For me, the issue I have with this large city that has the potential to depress me and get me down, is the lack of interesting things to do during the daytime. So to fill my days as best I can, I stay at hotels with good swimming pools and are close to high end malls and I go out and about all to make the time in between girls pass as quickly as possible. Reading Ibn Buttita's report and those of other worthy board members, I think I may begin to check out some of the daytime places like Berlian, Royal Mas and Maribaya Bar and Spa. In other words, I think that for my 3rd trip to Jakarta, it is high time I go out exploring more. I think it might be fun.

[QUOTE=IllusionHeart;1823670][B]December 25(Day 5: Friday)
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[B]BATS/ CJs:
[/B]Being Christmas night I went with high expectations to BATS. It was just an average night there. Few girls' mostly old ones. Not wanting to waste time I immediately moved on to CJs. The crowd was much better. Within minutes of getting my beer had a cute girl approach me. She introduced herself as Nida. She was a salesgirl at a mall and came to CJs once in a while to supplement her income. We got chatting. I offered her a drink but she didn't consume alcohol so an orange juice was good enough for her. I liked her vibe and she was quite chirpy and sweet. She didn't want to do LT and I didn't want to let her go. She started with 2 and we eventually settled for 1 Million IDR for 3 hours. Back in the hotel she gave me a good 15 minute soothing back massage. Light kisser but good BBBJ. I had a good session with her. She wanted to finish with her on top and I obliged her. She cleaned me up after the act and put me to bed and left.

Overall experience: 7/10.

[B]The night scene has been same as my earlier trip, not very good. Options are really limited or not worth the money being asked for. After 5 days it just gets boring to visit the spas. The MO starts to feel extremely monotonous. I think it will be quite some time before I visit Jakarta again.
[/B][/QUOTE]Awesome FR's Illusion Heart:

It seems Bats / Cj's are the only two options for club pick ups in Jakarta. The clubs in Blok M are no longer that good for the FL'rs to work for.

Keep up the good work Ibn Batuta and your report are excellent for newbies like us.

Adios,

Alex

[QUOTE=Alex7J;1823893]Awesome FR's Illusion Heart:

It seems Bats / Cj's are the only two options for club pick ups in Jakarta. The clubs in Blok M are no longer that good for the FL'rs to work for.

Keep up the good work Ibn Batuta and your report are excellent for newbies like us.

Adios,

Alex[/QUOTE]To Alex73.

There are many club and Disco all over Jakarta you need to know your options most of them in North near Kota, you can also pick up freelance in the Mall during daytime HR.

Fast eddie 48.

[QUOTE=IllusionHeart;1823670]

December 21(Day 1: Monday)

Touchdown at CGK at around 12 pm from Singapore

SNIP SNIP

December 25(Day 5: Friday)


I think it will be quite some time before I visit Jakarta again.

[/QUOTE]Great, detailed, informative reports Illusion. As always, your reports can easily be reference material for some newbie wanting to visit a city. Thanks.

I am looking forward to the FR on the time that followed after Jakarta. *wink wink*.

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;1823861]

So although you had a good time in a few places and met some great gals, I was not all that surprised by your concluding comment and I think I know how you feel:

IMHO Megalopolis Jakarta, like Metro Manila, can feel a little cold and boring in the daytime when it is hard to get around and there is a lack of things to do until nighttime rolls around unlike Bangkok where there is always something to do.
For me, the issue I have with this large city that has the potential to depress me and get me down, is the lack of interesting things to do during the daytime. So to fill my days as best I can, I stay at hotels with good swimming pools and are close to high end malls and I go out and about all to make the time in between girls pass as quickly as possible. [/QUOTE]Natty, I did have a good time with some of the girls. The extra long trip to Kelapa gading was worth it. I found more beautiful local gals and the best ones in this trip I met there. I consciously avoided Travel and Classic as I wanted to explore more. The dancers in Malio club and Malioboro lounge were the biggest draw for me in this trip. I did sample two at Malio club and it was worth the time and money. Unfortunately they only had a BJ on offer at a curtained room upstairs.

I have been to daytime places like Kartika and Berlian, although I did one session there I didn't like the women available, too old and big for my taste. I am sure you will not enjoy there unless your preferences have changed recently. I don't mind a girl having 2 kids but her body should not scream about it. 555.

City is dead during daytime. Mall hunting is not my game. Nothing else to do.

[QUOTE=Alex7J;1823893]Awesome FR's Illusion Heart:

It seems Bats / Cj's are the only two options for club pick ups in Jakarta. The clubs in Blok M are no longer that good for the FL'rs to work for.

Keep up the good work Ibn Batuta and your report are excellent for newbies like us.

Adios,

Alex[/QUOTE]Thanks Alex. I avoided Blok M this trip as well. I didn't want to make the trip after reading the quality and age of girls available there.

[QUOTE=FastEddie48;1823977]To Alex73.

There are many club and Disco all over Jakarta you need to know your options most of them in North near Kota, you can also pick up freelance in the Mall during daytime HR.

Fast eddie 48.[/QUOTE]FE, I had visited Milles, Golden crown and Colosseum in my earlier visit. Though there are some good local gals communication would a challenge. I could see local boys speak to girls and invite them to their table. All I was able to do was eye contact and a smile but the girls looked hesitating hence never approached. Must be their lack of english speaking ability or my inability to speak Bahasa. Mall hunting is definitely not my game hence I don't try or attempt.

[QUOTE=Blanquiceleste;1824081]Great, detailed, informative reports Illusion. As always, your reports can easily be reference material for some newbie wanting to visit a city. Thanks.

I am looking forward to the FR on the time that followed after Jakarta. *wink wink*.[/QUOTE]Thanks Blanqui, 5555, I have finished Manila and will be completing AC shortly. It sure was fun in the philippines.

[QUOTE=FastEddie48;1823977]To Alex73.

There are many club and Disco all over Jakarta you need to know your options most of them in North near Kota, you can also pick up freelance in the Mall during daytime HR.

Fast eddie 48.[/QUOTE]Hey Edd,

I am not a daytime monger, I would rather stay in with the catch of the night till next noon or evening if she is happy with me, I never force anything on a lady rather go with the flow. For me it is all night clubbing IE hunting, I find a lady hot only after a bottle of absolute or Grey goose goes inside me, till then all of them are ugly for me LOL, vodka makes the lady beautiful and sexy trust me for that and then back home humping sleeping humping sleeping eating humping again. I usually never come out in the day I am a night owl that's why I stay in big nice clean apartments mostly in the center or downtown, always use a taxi because I come out in the night and they are always free and helpful, for me the apartment or hotel has to be very chic have stayed in one of the best places in shanghai, Hangzhou, Guangzhou, Bangkok, Singapore, Kuala Lampur, Hong Kong the best till date has been the Ambassador suite in Davis corner wing Bangkok, it is a beautiful two bedroom suite with a jacuzzi right inside your drawing room so even if the lady is sleeping in the other room I can easily work or rest in the jacuzzi. The best sex I have had is in the hot jacuzzi the ladies are just flattered, never in my life in BKK has any Thai lady quoted me the price or asked money upfront after she has stepped with me in the Ambassador suite.

Secondly for me clubbing is hunting I don't want a 8 or 9 or 10 starfish, I would be rather happy with a 5 , 6 or 7 , I am not that handsome but I like the lady to be nice, she does not need to be beautiful just decent enough and then alcohol will make her wild, she should feel it is the best night of her life in club, I make her feel like a princess when she is with me and trust me I have begged ladies to leave my room. Language has never been a problem for me I have hunted in vast regions of China from the northern part of Shandong province to the depth of Shenzen and to the no talked about regions of Urmuqui. Then with the Colombians and Moroccans, I had a steady indo GF in HK a couple of years back she was a young hot indo awesome in bed so I learnt Sayang from her in Bahasa, no worries for language just the place should be good enough and ladies ready to be taken rest I leave on destiny mate.

Any how thanks for your advice, I just want to step into Jakarta for a couple of days for change.

Cheers.

Alex

Hey man, don't forget this was Christmas day, this is the second quietest time of the year after idul fitri.

Alot of people, due to the 4 day long weekend, leave the city and goto Bali or Singapore.

[QUOTE=IllusionHeart;1823670][B]December 25(Day 5: Friday)
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[B]Sumo
[/B]After an amazing time at Kings Cross I returned to Kelapa Gading to check out Sumo. Being Christmas, holiday traffic was thin and I was here in 25 minutes. I got in and seated myself at the lounge. Approx 30+ girls available. Some of them really beautiful. Got mamasan to call 2 girls as I couldn't decide. Chose the better looking one when I saw both up close. Session cost was 900 k IDR for the girl. Room was decent. Girl name was Sari. Good body, perfect round arse and be sized breasts. She had a latino look on her face and body. Room was small but decent. Sari also turned out to be a cat in the room. BBBJ and multiple positions. Great kissing. Enjoyed my time with her very much. Sari came twice and was satiated. I had to let her rest for good 5 to 10 minutes after the session. Gave her 200 k IDR tip.

Overall experience: 8/10.

My visit to Kings Cross and Sumo had been good. I really liked the quality of girls available. Both places were small and no pushy papasan or mamasan. Girls were sweet, patient and flexible. I would definitely spend more time here on my next visit. Only bummer is the time required to travel from Kota.

[B]BATS/ CJs:
[/B]Being Christmas night I went with high expectations to BATS. It was just an average night there. Few girls' mostly old ones. Not wanting to waste time I immediately moved on to CJs. The crowd was much better. Within minutes of getting my beer had a cute girl approach me. She introduced herself as Nida. She was a salesgirl at a mall and came to CJs once in a while to supplement her income. We got chatting. I offered her a drink but she didn't consume alcohol so an orange juice was good enough for her. I liked her vibe and she was quite chirpy and sweet. She didn't want to do LT and I didn't want to let her go. She started with 2 and we eventually settled for 1 Million IDR for 3 hours. Back in the hotel she gave me a good 15 minute soothing back massage. Light kisser but good BBBJ. I had a good session with her. She wanted to finish with her on top and I obliged her. She cleaned me up after the act and put me to bed and left.

Overall experience: 7/10.

[B]The night scene has been same as my earlier trip, not very good. Options are really limited or not worth the money being asked for. After 5 days it just gets boring to visit the spas. The MO starts to feel extremely monotonous. I think it will be quite some time before I visit Jakarta again.
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[QUOTE=MasBule;1824407]Hey man, don't forget this was Christmas day, this is the second quietest time of the year after idul fitri.

Alot of people, due to the 4 day long weekend, leave the city and goto Bali or Singapore.[/QUOTE]MasBule, Agreed and I also had the holiday season and probable impact in my mind while planning the trip. However it was surprising that there were enough gals in all Spas to choose from.

I faced issue only during night time I. E. In Clubs regarding quality. The only night I picked up a girl from CJs was also surprisingly on Christmas night. My experience with Clubs has not been good in my earlier trip as well which was in month of May. I didn't do well in this trip either. Hope the next one whenever I visit, things would have improved.

How is the situation on ground now in Jakarta? I hope all our friends on this forum who live in Jakarta are safe. Does today's incidents seem to have affected the markets we operate in?

Stay safe folks!

[QUOTE=Blanquiceleste;1825715]How is the situation on ground now in Jakarta? I hope all our friends on this forum who live in Jakarta are safe. Does today's incidents seem to have affected the markets we operate in?

Stay safe folks![/QUOTE]There was a bit less traffic than usual, while some central roads where blocked. So on balance perhaps not such a big effect on movement in the city.

In Classic the girls complained that there were fewer customers than usual, but the customers who were there were not complaining.

As an Australian Jakarta-based expat tweeted: Perhaps they should evacuate the Sidney opera.

I went to CJs last week on Wednesday night. I was quite disappointed by the talent there that night. Normally there is a throng of hotties on a ladies night there, but it was not the case that night. I will say that the blonde lead singer of the band has greatly improved over the years. She used to be stiff as a board (5 years ago) and was a poor singer as well. Now she can move and is quite sexy dancing and can sing much much better. I enjoyed just watching her for a change.

That Friday night we went to Golden Crown and it was much better. I don't particularly like to go there alone, but if going with a buddy it's usually a good time as long as I've slept before going there. The main problem with the place is the girls like to do X all night and don't want to go home until the sun is about to come up. We don't do X ourselves, but we picked up a couple of girls who claimed to be college students (you never know if that's actually true). By the time I got my girl to my place, she just wanted to sleep. But we had a good shag when we both woke up, and she didn't ask for any money. I still gave her 500 k taxi money regardless. I find that if I don't slip them some money, I normally don't hear back from them. But if I do, I will, and sometimes these college chicks will circulate my number to their friends and I will get random messages from girls I don't know asking if they can meet me (to make some extra money for school). I love having some mystery girl coming to visit.

Report ia a bit late but nonetheless I do have some details to report. Was again in Jakarta over the holidays and this time around it was really disappointing. Hung out in my usual spot in Blok M but the lack of ladies was a sorry sight.

Between Christmas and New Year at Blok M in the past there has always been an overrun of females in all of the bars, however this year there were few and I mean a few hanging around in these bars. Top Gun had it's usual bad band playing which draws a bit of a crowd but My Bar was not as rocking as it used to be. I'm my.

Opinion (aside from the politics) is the music they really need to change that DJ who plays just one type of music all night. Met a few regulars but no new talent and the numbers were very few. On New Years eve I was one of four people in My Bar for countdown, it certainly has changed.

Now I have read the forum and some of you say that bars in the North are good but with details on the method of operation it's difficult to operate in new territory.

I stayed in Kota once again and in Sarinah (see hotel section) for report. And in the Gaja Madah area there are a lot of of activity around the McDonalds.

Did have a delivery to my room from a guy offering delivery service and the experience was ok, not great GFE as I am used to in Jakarta, times / service certainly has changed. I was tempted to try one of the clubs in the Kota area but the front desk clerk talked me out of it, said Kemang clubs were better, but never identified which club in Kemang.

Anyway I hope that my summer trip is better.

[QUOTE=Bkk212;1829686]Hung out in my usual spot in Blok M but the lack of ladies was a sorry sight.

Kemang clubs were better, but never identified which club in Kemang.

[/QUOTE]I wasn't in town for Christmas and New Years, but I did go to Top Gun just after New Years. I was greatly impressed by the talent there. Unfortunately I had met a girl there. I was regretting it after I arrived because the talent that night was excellent.

Kemang has so many places now. You can actually just take a taxi down that main road in kemang and when you see a place that has lots of cars out front and is very busy, stop in. Haha. 999 is a popular place. Eastern Promise is good on the weekends. Kemang isn't really my scene though, I prefer Top Gun.

Somebody out there who knows the going rate at Bintang Mawar? Thanks!

I recently spent some time in Jakarta. Not to repeat too much from older reports, here is a brief summary:

Classic was true to form, a good bordello IMHO. Yeah mamasans are pushy, but you just have to learn to ignore or negotiate and not let them take decisions for you. But confusing info about medical checks. Girls say they have regular checks, blood sample, vaginal swab, and a couple of pills (said before on this form to be antibiotics). This info was repeated by three different girls, but one said it was weekly, another monthly and a third quarterly. And, I came across to girls with bad cases of genital warts. The worst case said she had seven customers already that night. It seems they just fuck without tasting or looking, so they never realize.

One thing I really enjoy about Classic is the walks with the girls through the maze of corridors to the rooms and the interaction with the service staff that populates those corridors. It's surreal.

I also tried Kings Cross and Fashion Hotel. My experiences both places were exactly as described in recent reports. Kings cross was best, but it took me over an hour to get there in a taxi in not very heavy traffic. Like many things in Jakarta it is further than it looks on the map. I had a really nice SYT there though.

Blok M sucks, really there are very few girls of interest there. On the other hand, the one girl I took back from there was OK. But in the future I am staying up north.

CJs is has some pretty ladies and a nice, quite stylish party atmosphere, but prices are high.

At Travel I had one of their budget threesomes (480 rupiah + tips for two girls or whatever it is). I don't like threesomes and the service was mediocre as expected, but the girls were just so beautiful I couldn't resist. A 9 and a possible 10 - if you like shorty, skinny, long-legged girls with medium-small breasts and pretty faces. I find the fallback option for this situation is to play forced sex with them: one holds they others risks while I fuck her. Even if they won't go down on each other or the like, they are usually happy with this. Now if only I could get them to do real three-way DFK. Few things beats that feeling.

My experience at Travel was similar to the past, and similar to some other reports here: mamasans really too pushy, service not so good. But I started wondering whether perhaps one just has to take a more serious approach: Come in a bit earlier, sit at a table and order some drinks, let the girls come to the table and buy lady drinks and interview thoroughly. Certainly there is no doubt there are some beautiful women in that place, one just has to work out how to connect with the right ones and get them to do what one wants.

Prior to my Indonesia side of my trip, I did read a lot of reports and I want to thank all the long time contributors to Jakarta and Indonesia forums for their instant help to any questions I had before my trip. This is one of the best forum where the long time punters go out of their way to help other punters. Thanks to all for all your help.

I am entering my stage 3-A of my travels. The plans was to leave Cebu for Manila Sunday November 22 2015 on 5. 55 pm on Cebu Pacific and catch the connecting Cebu Pacific flight to Jakarta Leaving Manila at 20.45 pm. I thought I had enough time for the connecting flight in Manila while I making my bookings months earlier. Little did I know that there would be the APEC conference in Manila ending about that time. With President Obama attending the conference, there was a no fly zone in Manila for several kilometers and that included the Manila airport. It led to severe backups of flights and the weather also was not helping with cloudy skies. My 17.55 pm flight left late one and a half hour and by the time I made it to Cebu Pacific check in for Jakarta, the flight had already left. That screwed up my plans completely for the three nights stay in Northern Jakarta. The next flight was next day at night at 20.45 pm. Cebu Pacific would not put me on another airline flight nor offer accommodation for the night. As it was getting late and Manila traffic in mind and not done any RTFF for hotels on Manila, I opted to spend the night at the hotel. I was frustrated, hungry and tired.

I had made bookings to stay at the Redtop for 3 nights. Before I went to Mkenko Spa, I sent e-mails to Redtop Hotel explaining the flight delays that led to me being unable to come to Jakarta as planned on November 22 and I would be spending the night at the airport and catching the flight next day. With the Asian culture, they replied back that I would be regarded as 'no show' and they will cancel my booking, plus charge me a day's rent. I tried explaining to them the circumstances but to no avail.

I had to make another booking for a hotel. Being tired and frustrated, I was looking up Agoda and in haste looked up the wrong area, Mangga Dua. I booked at the'primahotel Mangga Dua 2, Jl. Pangeran Jayakarta 73 Blok A / E-01, Jakarta.

I found a place at the airport that offered 'accommodation' from a few hours to a night stay. I went upstairs and checked it out. It is called Mkenko Spa, a Japanese Health Spa. You can store your luggage there, has 'lounge type chairs' for sleeping and relaxation and also some private full size beds and sheets with alarm clock etc. Very quiet for a decent sleep. There are showers and toiletries, towels and sleepers supplied. Drinks and snack plus breakfast are available for free and there is a eating and dining area. Quiet good for about USD 20.00 I paid for the night stay in the 'bedroom'. The chairs are cheaper. I slept well.

November 23 2015, Cebu Pacific left for Jakarta on time at 20.45 pm. A no frills airline where everything is charged for. OK for short flights and they provide the same no service on international flights as well. Arrived in Jakarta a bit early and took a taxi to the the'primahotel Mangga Dua 2 hotel. Hotel was acceptable and a decent size room with good service. There was no mongering around and I decided to sleep the night away. I had booked the room with breakfast and it was served at the acfe next door. It was just a pastry with one coffee. I had booked the room for two and asked for two coffee and two pastries. Beware hotels that come with breakfast.

November 24 2015, I had to get a sim card and change some money. I had brand new USD 100 dollar notes and I put them in my wallet. There was Bank nearby that had a very good rate. I went in and gave my notes for Rupiahs. The girl did her stuff and took the notes and came back saying that as the notes had a fold from my wallet, they would not accept them! I went back to the hotel and got some straight notes and now, they could not change the money as it was past 2. 00 pm and no buy and sell after 2. 00 pm! I could come tomorrow. Little did they know that I badly needed some cash for the mongering that night. They said that there were money changers at the mall and I should go there. Went to the mall and had a lot of difficulty finding money changers there. After a lot of walking I did find one. The rate was good and no issues with any notes. On the way back in the mall, I walked by some cell phone sellers and noticed some sim cards. I explained to the girl who spoke very little English that I wanted talk, text and internet. She found one and also went through the process to setup my card as all the communication was in the local language. Thanks to that young girl, I was set.

Returned to the hotel to rest a bit after an eventual day. Later I noticed a night market starting right across from the mall. There were no restaurants nearby and I walked the length of the market to find something to eat before I embarked to The Classic Hotel as I had only today and the next day I was taking a taxi to south Jakarta.

Took a Taxi around 9. 00 pm to the Classic Hotel. Can't remember the costs but it was some distance.

I was surprised that the hotel looked good and it was a hookers joint. Usually such places are greasy smelly places.

Found the area where girls are and got my 'ticket' at the entrance. Mamasans pounce on you as you enter. I found a table close to the stage and ordered a large Bintang. Drank the beer and surveyed the scene. There was a very good local band playing on stage. A lot of girls sitting alongside the walls on couches. They seemed to wear different color dresses, signifying different groups and mamasans. Personally, I thought that slouching on couches did not present them well and you may not know what the selected girl looks like when she gets up. There were quite a few punters too. I was still thirsty after the first beer and decided to have another one before some action. When the band took a break, the girls wearing black dresses, got up on to the stage and did perform dance routines to techo music. They actually danced than one step forward and two back. Later in their routine, they would start shedding their clothes and would be completely naked and continue dancing till the end of their routine. These girls were quite entertaining.

After they had finished their routine, some of the naked girls would be around the area where the punters sit. Now, watch out for this routine. They would go to some unsuspecting men and go close up to them, hug them with their breasts close to the guys faces and ask the punter to buy them a shot and they would drink the shot BEFORE the punter had a say and demand 10 K rupiah! Watch out for that as they look quite enticing, those beautiful naked bodies with gorgeous breasts, feeling your penis and next popping a shot! I saw that happening with other punters and waved them away before they got too close to me.

I was ready for action. I walked the area to check out other girls and did see some at the other end to where I was sitting. Did not take the mamasan to notice what I was checking out and she brought the girl over to me at a table I was sitting. She was about 5 feet 4 inches tall, not too skinny, nice body and a beautiful face. We talked a little and she seemed good to me. Before I got to talk to the mamasan, she brings another girl and she offered both to me for 525 k rupiah. Though she was not a bad looker, I was not interested in her and told the mamasan that I would take the first girl. Gave her 350 k rupiah for one hour.

Off we went towards the rooms. The girl stopped to get her stuff and then we went to a room. Decent size, clean with a shower and a big enough bed with sheets and pillows. I hugged the girl, kissing her slowly undressing her. She had big breasts and a nice size bottom, that I like, not jello. She grabbed my erect penis and unfastened my belt and undid my trousers. We felt each other on the bed and talked a bit. She was 20 years old. She had a two year old baby. I could not see any signs of any birth marks or extra weight. I got the impression that her breasts may need milking! She looked even better without clothes with erect pencil sharp nipples and a shaved pussy. She was lighter skinned.

We both got up and had a shower. After that, it was all action on the bed. I kissed her all over from her lips, face, neck, breasts and then went down on her. She loved me eating her out and was moaning and groaning with her pussy getting all moist. We did 69 position first with me on top and then her on the top. She was very good at BBBJ. She kept sucking and sucking like she could not get enough. I was getting all too excited and it was time for intercourse. I had brought my own rubbers and she put one on. First, she was on top and really working her hips. He screams were getting louder but I did not give a shit. Her body would shudder with each orgasm she had and would tighten her grip on my penis for a long time every time while she caught her breath. First her pussy was tight when I first entered her but with her fluids flowing, I was ramming her full. We changed to dogie position and fucked her that way for a while. I was also sweating a lot but really enjoying pounding the young sweetie. She did anything I asked her without any qualms. She would suck my dick, lick around it, suck my balls at down to anal rimming. Last, we went to missionary position with a pillow under her ass. I grabbed her round bottom and went as deep as I could and the girl grabbed my ass and pushed my penis deeper in her till she came a few times again. I continued to banged her and as I was ready to come, I took off condom and she came down to suck my dick till I came in her mouth. She would still not let go off my dick. She seemed like someone that enjoyed giving blowjobs and got pleasure from it. Eventually she let go of it and we cuddled and talked. I kissed her face and breasts, and yes, there was milk in the offering!

I had read from the reports that it was a single shot thing at Classic but this girl was in hurry to go. As I was kissing her, she responded by going down on me again and it did not take much more time for her to make my dick hard again. This time, I put her in the missionary position and started pounding her. She again grabbed my ass and kept pushing my dick deeper inside her. I am no longer a 20 something young lad who gets a hard on at the sight of a woman. Those days have been over for a while! Two times in a hour does happen but it takes a sexy woman in bed with me to get me that excited so quick. She wanted more and more. I was happy to oblige and fucked her sideways with her throbbing hot ass beside me and her tits and breasts in my hands. I kept going as long I could and this time shot my load in her. Her body was throbbing and she was panting hard till she came again. We curled up in that position for a short time but the girl wanted my dick in her and any cum still left in my dick. She sat up, removed the condom and went down on my dick, sucking it as hard as she could and using her other hand to excite me. There was no way I could come third time in an hour! She would not let go of my penis and I was enjoying. Eventually there was knock on the door and I guess, the hour was over. She still kept sucking for another five minutes and then let go. I embraced her and kissed her again slowly. It was time for shower. After shower, we dressed and she showed me a 'hickey' on her neck that I gave where I must have kissed her deeply! She was a sweet little thing. I had so much fun with her. She did not even ask for a tip but I did give her a decent tip. We both left and the cleaning crews came in the room. Did not ask for any pictures and not sure if it was allowed. The girl went back to the area where they leave their things and I went back to areas near the stage as I wanted to watch the band and also see the girls do shows in between the band playing. I had a work out and needed a beer badly. The beer girls were also playing with me but I did not think I had anything left in me for a few more hours. Later that night, I took a taxi back to the hotel for a decent sleep and next day head to South Jakarta.

As I was getting everything here at the Classic, good sex, good band, good beer, good shows by the girls, plus I had just a few more hours till the next day, I decided against trying other places like 4 Play, Alexis and Malioboro. Too much travelling wasted time as I was having fun where I was. So, that was my single night in North Jakarta. Had everything gone to plans, I would have visited the other places as I would have had more days. Looking back, I got a great gal at Classic who gave me all and I had a great time. If there is a next time, I will spend a week between Central and North Jakarta next time as I just touched a single place and there is still 99% more to be explored. In spite of the average reports on Classic, I think Classic is great bang for your money and on the night I was there, Tuesday, I had good entertainment, good sex and good band playing. I will recommend Classic on my experience.

The picture below is of the young lady at the mall who helped me with the sim card setup. She said she was 25 years old and single. As it is, I had only a single night in North Jakarta and would have asked the young lady for lunch or dinner and then who knows. Just thoughts. Enjoy.

[QUOTE=RobertLong;1703037]For your health and safety use a Taxi. AC and pretty well protected. Why suffer the heat, rain, dust and traffic when you can relax in an AC Taxi? And Jakarta Taxi are cheap.

RL.[/QUOTE]Will be visiting Jakarta for the 1st time, planning to stay at Teduh Hostel at JL. Pintu Basar. Can anyone suggest the best way to get to Travel / Classic. Google Map recommend I walk to Mangga Besar commuter station then take the commuter to Travel and Classic respectively. Is that really the best option?

[QUOTE=AdikaDik;1831754]Will be visiting Jakarta for the 1st time, planning to stay at Teduh Hostel at JL. Pintu Basar. Can anyone suggest the best way to get to Travel / Classic. Google Map recommend I walk to Mangga Besar commuter station then take the commuter to Travel and Classic respectively. Is that really the best option?[/QUOTE]It's possibly the quickest and most reliable on a hostel budget, , certainly from Kota / Hostel =Classic. While Classic is only a two minute walk from the KRL station, Travel is a good 5-10 minutes round the corner. If travelling on the KRL buy a commuter ticket for multijourneys upfront.

Ojek is your other option which if you walked out of one of those venues the ojek driver will certainly know the quickest route to the other for 50 k.

Before I get disparaging comments I should point out I've often got my driver (who drives the same erratic speed as a taxi) to drop me off at Gondangdia or Manggaria KRL Commuter to take me to Kota and always beaten him by at least 1/2 an hour.

[QUOTE=AdikaDik;1831754]Will be visiting Jakarta for the 1st time, planning to stay at Teduh Hostel at JL. Pintu Basar. Can anyone suggest the best way to get to Travel / Classic. Google Map recommend I walk to Mangga Besar commuter station then take the commuter to Travel and Classic respectively. Is that really the best option?[/QUOTE]To AdikaDik.

Just take a taxi don't be cheap it only 30 k about 2 dollar USD being a newbie in town why walk, the taxi will take you to the front door.

Fast eddie 48.

I went for CJs for the first time on Friday night based on recommendation given by a girl in Singapore. I really enjoyed the place. The bar is nicely populated with Expats from all over the world and girls. Girls are pro and non-pro. That night an Australian band was playing live music and later a DJ took over. The bar in divided into two ambiances: the night club with live bands and two bars at each ends and a cozier place with a square shape bar with chairs around where people can talk in a quieter atmosphere. I met a couple of nice chicks to make up my mind about the pricing. I have the feeling that LT is the rule there and I could obtain offers varying from 100 USD to 150 USD for LT and I also had an offer of 200 USD for a threesome with two girls. I was there for a couple of hours when I decided to go to the quiet place where I noticed a nice girl alone at the bar. I approached her and started chatting with her. Her name is Marlyn, tall (1 m75) mixed indonesian / thai, beautiful face. I offered her a whiskey cola and we have a nice discussion. She works in a bank and goes to CJs sometimes when she needs money. As we were clicking we agreed to finish the night together for 150 USD. In my room we started with nice DFK kissing and as she was obviously enjoying I went for pussy licking and fingering to warm her up. Marlyn was responding extremely well and had an orgasm surprisingly quickly, then another one, a third one and a fourth one!! Okay at this stage I know my readers will wonder how I knew she was so hot or maybe I am so self-confident that I didn't notice she was a good actress. Well the reason I know she was not lying is simple: Marlyn squirts and she did four times! Until we decided to have a shower break. In the shower she told me this was the first time but I don't think this is right considering how easy I made her squirting. After the shower we return to bed and she had another three before I asked her to look after me (finally! My mistake because after 7 orgasms she was very tired and her focus was not there. I then asked her to just BBJ me and I finished with CIM. We then went to sleep and woke up around 9 in the morning for a nice morning session. This time I didn't repeat the mistake so I gave her 2 orgasms only before fucking her in various positions and she asked me to finish her doggy style so she had a final explosion. She left my room at 10:30 as she had to go to work. I don't want to share her mobile number as I am still in contact with her: meanwhile we decided to start a kind of easy relationship as we want to meet again during my next visit in Jakarta. I like Marlyn actually She still goes to CJs so mongers can find her there.

I had few hours to kill before takeoff so I went to DFashion on Saturday afternoon 3 pm. My first time there. Man I was impressed by the setting. The two upper floors of the hotel are dedicated to the Spa and a bar when people can choose girls sitting on a kind of podium. There are receptionist at the entrance explain the menu going from normal massage / massage +BJ / Body 2 Body massage +BJ / Body 2 Body massage +FS / free lance. Free lance is when you choose a girl from the podium for sex. They offer promotion early in the day so I opted for the 60 min B2 B+BJ and them the receptionist asked me to choose a girl from pictures and her mobile. I chose a Cindy and then I had a beer at the bar until they prepared the room. After 10 min one staff lady accompanied me to the room where Cindy was waiting for me in a long sexy dress. The room is simply a hotel room with a large bed, a bathroom and a TV. Cindy's English is very limited so the interaction was not so easy but she tried her best to make me happy. The session started with a back massage and the B2 B actually started after the flip over. Cindy is short but her body is perfect in shape. Her face is also beautiful. B2 B was nicely executed and after a while she asked whether I was interested by a full sex option. At this point I told her I was not and therefore BJ will be enough. She then put the condom and started sucking me very nicely. After few minutes I was enjoying so much that I changed my mind and asked for the full sex extra. Cindy then informed the reception, put a porn movie on the TV (LOL) and off we go. The sex was really good. I did her mish, cowgirl, cowgirl reverse and doggy for at least 15 minutes. I exploded on her butt. I had really great time with Cindy! I then had a shower gave her a tip 100 kR and left the room to pay my bill at the reception. WIR: yes for sure.

[QUOTE=SamSuffit;1833121]I had few hours to kill before takeoff so I went to DFashion on Saturday afternoon 3 pm. My first time there. Man I was impressed by the setting.[/QUOTE]That was an excellent report! Thanks for taking the time to write it. It would have been even better if you broke it down into paragraphs with adequate spacing.

[QUOTE=SamSuffit;1833121]I had few hours to kill before takeoff so I went to DFashion on Saturday afternoon 3 pm. My first time there. Man I was impressed by the setting. The two upper floors of the hotel are dedicated to the Spa and a bar when people can choose girls sitting on a kind of podium. There are receptionist at the entrance explain the menu going from normal massage / massage +BJ / Body 2 Body massage +BJ / Body 2 Body massage +FS / free lance. Free lance is when you choose a girl from the podium for sex. They offer promotion early in the day so I opted for the 60 min B2 B+BJ and them the receptionist asked me to choose a girl from pictures and her mobile. After few minutes I was enjoying so much that I changed my mind and asked for the full sex extra. left the room to pay my bill at the reception. [/QUOTE]Great you had a good time. Do you mind sharing the prices for the various options? Thanks.

Hi to all members,

I'm looking to go in Indonesia, one big week, just for fun and Sex.

There is a lot of information here, thanks guys, but I have some question to be sure.

I'am Looking first to go 3 days in BATAM, this is a good idea, do we find easily freelancer? Big choice? And what their price for ST or LT?

The second place where I want to go, is Jakarta:

- Someone tried Red Light Districts in Jakarta? It's seem to have 3 RDL, it is safe? What are the prices?

- About the Spa, I don't have much question, it's seem to be clear for me.

- What about bars and Disco, what are the real price of Freelances for ST and LT??

I got some contact with girls on Craigslist, but the price are amazing, even if I negotiate, they ask between 1. 5 millions to 2.5 millions for ST, so for that price, I stay in Europe, Spain or Germany.

What is the best place to get an Hotel?

So thanks in advance for your help, be sure, I will let a report here.

Read back a lot of pages and take notes! Everything you could possibly need to know is already there.

I went to Jakarta last year. I planed the trip, took notes on the places I liked and the costs involved, and I didn't need any additional information. I even posted about the places that I planned to check out. Stop being lazy and do your homework!

[QUOTE=Emenems;1835285]Hi to all members,

I'm looking to go in Indonesia, one big week, just for fun and Sex.

There is a lot of information here, thanks guys, but I have some question to be sure.

I'am Looking first to go 3 days in BATAM, this is a good idea, do we find easily freelancer? Big choice? And what their price for ST or LT?

The second place where I want to go, is Jakarta:

- Someone tried Red Light Districts in Jakarta? It's seem to have 3 RDL, it is safe? What are the prices?

- About the Spa, I don't have much question, it's seem to be clear for me.

- What about bars and Disco, what are the real price of Freelances for ST and LT??

I got some contact with girls on Craigslist, but the price are amazing, even if I negotiate, they ask between 1. 5 millions to 2.5 millions for ST, so for that price, I stay in Europe, Spain or Germany.

What is the best place to get an Hotel?

So thanks in advance for your help, be sure, I will let a report here.[/QUOTE]

Can someone tell me where is DFashion? Or is it be Fashion Hotel?

Thanks

[QUOTE=SamSuffit;1833121] I had few hours to kill before takeoff so I went to DFashion on Saturday afternoon 3 pm. [/QUOTE]

Is it B Fashion Hotel? Sorry for the typo.

[QUOTE=Manfield04;1835486]Can someone tell me where is DFashion? Or is it be Fashion Hotel?

Thanks[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Manfield04;1835486]Can someone tell me where is DFashion? Or is it be Fashion Hotel?

Thanks[/QUOTE]I think its Bfashion Spa, Near The Taman Anggrek Mall. At least I went to this one and fits the description, Hotel with Spa in dedicated two floors on 5th or 6th.

[QUOTE=IllusionHeart;1835788]I think its Bfashion Spa, Near The Taman Anggrek Mall. At least I went to this one and fits the description, Hotel with Spa in dedicated two floors on 5th or 6th.[/QUOTE]Sorry I am new in Jakarta. I am referring to the hotel near a big mall and also at a stone throw from the Pullman Central Park where I was staying BTW. I was asked the total damage for my session: 600 kidr for the massage - 200 kidr discount +400 kidr extra FS + 100 kidr tip so 900 kidr in total.

Sam.

[QUOTE=Emenems;1835285]I got some contact with girls on Craigslist, but the price are amazing, even if I negotiate, they ask between 1. 5 millions to 2.5 millions for ST, so for that price, I stay in Europe, Spain or Germany..[/QUOTE]All your questions have already been answered. Just RTFF.

And why would you even negotiate with the Craigslist hookers? They're obese MILFs calling themselves "BBWs. Local Indonesian mongers wouldn't even touch them for free. Hell, you may even find they have used a 10 year old photo or photoshopped their photo.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1829809]I wasn't in town for Christmas and New Years, but I did go to Top Gun just after New Years. I was greatly impressed by the talent there. Unfortunately I had met a girl there. I was regretting it after I arrived because the talent that night was excellent.

Kemang has so many places now. You can actually just take a taxi down that main road in kemang and when you see a place that has lots of cars out front and is very busy, stop in. Haha. 999 is a popular place. Eastern Promise is good on the weekends. Kemang isn't really my scene though, I prefer Top Gun.[/QUOTE]I was in Top Gun a few times in the first week on Jan. Did see quite a few nice ladies in there. Funny though how the clientele in Top Gun is much different than those in My Bar.

There is one striking lady in Top Gun but she looked as though she has a steady. Didn't jet her name but the few times I saw her she had on the same outfit. Tight jeans with a short top exposing her very fit abs, not tight but very nice to look at.

I will try your suggestion about Kemang in July, however I will try Kota as well.

Pro vs. Non-pro. An ongoing dilemma for me.

I find that the pros give better service, are more open to things like anal, rimming etc. However I worry about the pros being high mileage and the increased risks of STDs. Sometimes they try to kiss me and all I can think of is all the other cocks that have been there. Yuck.

Non-pros. Just had a sweet young thing over for some morning delight. She was prompt (for Indonesia), communicative, is always available when I ask her to come over. No discussion of money, never counts what I do give her, is always happy to come back for more. The thing is, this girl clearly does not have a lot of experience sucking cock and says she is still an anal virgin. I always wear a condom, so I think my risk with her is pretty low.

Yesterday I had a pro come over. Plenty of ball sucking, ass licking and she takes a facial with pride. I have repeated her several times over the last year or so and she is good value. She works in a massage place, so she sees more than her fair share of man meat and she has become a bit familiar and tries to kiss me after she has been licking my ass. The sex with her is better than with the non-pro, but as soon as she makes me cum with her tongue up my ass my mind turns to working out the probability of her having some nasty STD that could come back to bite me later.

Anyway, that is my post orgasm morning ramble.

[QUOTE=Ceegee;1839559]

Yesterday I had a pro come over. Plenty of ball sucking, ass licking and she takes a facial with pride. I have repeated her several times over the last year or so and she is good value. She works in a massage place, so she sees more than her fair share of man meat and she has become a bit familiar and tries to kiss me after she has been licking my ass. The sex with her is better than with the non-pro, but as soon as she makes me cum with her tongue up my ass .[/QUOTE]It's a rough life.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1839593]It's a rough life.[/QUOTE]Hey, somebody has to do it. You seem to be doing just fine as well. :-)

Belated reports due to home and work commitments.

Wednesday November 25 2015

Had my pastry and coffee breakfast at the the'primahotel Mangga Dua 2 hotel cafe, packed and was ready to take a taxi from Mangga Dua to Blok M at about 12.00 noon. This was going to be my first taste of being in Jakarta traffic during the day. It was an experience to remember. I had never seen so many cars not moving and motor bikes whizzing around non-stop. It took forever to get to Blok M and I was getting frustrated with the traffic. I was staying at the Oak Tree Urban Hotel, Sampit Street V Number 3, Jakarta. In order to find the hotel tucked behind Blok M, you have to tell the Taxi to take you to Mahakam Hotel / Street which they know as this hotel is huge and grand and Sampit street is off Mahakam. Eventually found the boutique hotel. The staff tried to be helpful but were lazy. I had booked a Superior room and it was not bad, fair sized with a safe in the room. The bed was good size and clean sheets daily. Had a glass enclosure shower. The hotel assisted me with a socket to use with their power points for my tablet. Wi-Fi was free and decent. There was restaurant attached that was quite decent. The breakfast was huge with lots of different cooked items available and you can also order omelets etc if you prefer. Well worth it. If wanted to eat the small tiny Indonesian food dishes, there were plenty of places close to the mall. There is a 7 Eleven close by if you needed anything else. This hotel has one of the most expensive laundry. I did not know. I gave my clothes to them and the bill was huge, over 400 k. Would have cost about the 1/10 outside.
I rested a bit and walked about to get to know the area. A lot of Japanese Restaurants' around this area. Do not know why. Was difficult to find anything else.

Anyway, tonight was the Ladies Night at CJ's bar in the Hotel Mulia. That's why I came down to South Jakarta today. Hotel Mulia as others know is a expensive grand hotel where you are body searched before entering it. Took taxi from hotel to Hotel Mulia. Got there about 2200 hours. It is not that close to Blok M. Went upstairs to CJs. Was asked if I stayed at the hotel and I said No and had to pay 200 k entrance fee. Wonder what would have happened if I said Yes and I was not staying there.
Went inside and saw quite a few ladies lining up the place, from the bar to towards the stage and around. A British band was playing. I did not think this band was any good. Along one long table, some Asians, looked like Koreans were having bottles of Champagne and some girls doing their best to be part of the high rollers. There was another table where men who looked Arabic where doing their own thing, this time with Whiskey and some more girls were trying to be part of the act. For the rest like us, I grabbed a beer that cost around 90 k for a small bottle. You get better value in Classic with a large bottle for lesser price. Got my drink and decided to stay near the bar first and survey the scene. There were a number of girls lining up the bar. The girl closest to me looked more Chinese and quite plain. She started the conversation. This was my first time with the 3 main questions the girls at CJs ask right off the bat. What's your name, Where are you from, Where do you stay? You'll get bombarded with those 3 questions throughout the night. I talked a bit with the wallflower and then got to the business. She asked for 2 mil. A plain Jane wallflower at CJs asking for 2 mil. I refused and she came down to 1. 5 mil. Way too much for a wallflower. I refused and she looked annoyed that I wanted to pay less and that was the end of the story with her for me. The women in CJs generally dress better but not all of them. There may be some 8's but not too many. But majority I would say looked decent and hopefully a good fuck. CJs is nothing but a unofficial brothel with just about every girl there for sale. So, I talked to some girls there during the night, not being too pushy. They all were asking the 2 mil and least 1. 5 mil. No one was coming down. I had decided that I would be taking a girl home no matter what. I must say that the staff at CJs is very good. Just played around hoping some girl may ask lesser. Past midnight, I noticed that the wallflower was leaving with a Chinese looking guy. I would not be surprised that he paid the 2 mil. Have fun.

A short time later 3 three women came and two were very average but one young looking girl very cute. They stood near me and the young looking one kept looking at me with a smile and I returned the favor. I really liked the super sexy cute girl and started conversation with her. Again 2 mil. But whatever I said had to go through the ugly sisters and if they said no to my offer, the cutie would refuse the offer. The cutie told me that she had to go to work next day and leave at 6 AM. That is 2 mil for about 5 hours, including taxi time back to the hotel. I said no. I found that most of the girls at CJs would be leaving very early in the morning though charging LT prices. All looking for a fast buck. So, next my line of questioning also included as to how long the girls would stay. You want the best fuck for your buck! I joked around with other girls and had some more beer and it was beginning to get late. About 1. 30 AM I thought that even 1. 5 mil for the cutie may be too much as she would only be staying for a few hours. I started talking to her again and she said that she would stay till 7. 00 AM at the most. Still not much but I offered 1. 2 mil. She seemed interested but then looked at the ugly sisters and the ugly sisters said no. OK, that's that. They can stay fuck free for the night. I walked away to another girl I had been playing with and offered her the same money and she would stay till 12 noon next day. I took her hand and walked right by the ugly sisters and cutie and out of the bar. You should have seen the look on Cutie's face. Not of my making. Her fault.

Off to my hotel with the girl. She was pleasant and had told me that she was new to CJs and did not know many girls there. Most girls there know each other. Neither did she like CJs much.
After the small talk and relaxing, we both had a shower together with me feeling and rubbing her body. Her hard nipples were standing out and I got to kiss them. After shower on to the bed, with me first kissing her and then progressing slowly down her body, neck, boobs, nipples and then the pussy. She was getting very excited and we got in the 69 position with me on top. This went on for a while till I got off her and she rolled down to give me a blow job. These Indonesian girls know how to please a man. I was getting hard and she got on top and was moving her hips rapidly and her juices were rolling down on to my body. She came a few times but continued gyrating her hips till I came inside her. If I had not cum, I am sure she was going to rip my dick off and run away with it. She slowed down a bit but kept a hold on the dick, sucking every bit of the cum. She got off and licked my dick and sucked it for a while. Then we lay in each other's arms, kissing and feeling each other. As it was late at night, we both took a short nap. One thing I like sleeping with a woman after fucking her ass. Their asses are nice and warm against your body after all that pounding. I just like holding the girl with her red hot ass against me in bed. Couple of hours later, I was getting horny again. I turned her around, face down and started kissing her body from her face downwards. This girl liked being kissed, I mean bitten hard on her neck and she was getting real excited. While 'biting' her neck, I started fingering her pussy and it was real moist. After a few minutes of the Dracula neck biting, I moved on to her hard rounded ass and then eat her pussy before I put a pillow below her pussy and started screwing her slowly initially. It was nice to lay on her rounded ass and pump her slowly. The girl was getting all excited and I started pumping her a little harder. She shivered a few times and must have cum a few times before I came. I let my dick inside her for a few minutes till we both relaxed a bit and then turned her around and held her in my arms till we slept again. Breakfast at the hotel is till 10.00 AM. I woke the girl up about 9. 15 AM, kissing her slowly and she went down to give me a blowjob. A long and a hard one. Then I fucked her doggy style to start with and ended up missionary with her legs around me and a pillow underneath her ass. I loved this girl's passion and she actually drained me with her love to be fucked and she gave all herself. We both came, stayed motionless for a few minutes and then showered. I gave her the money and then we went downstairs to have breakfast. In any other circumstances, I would have exchanged numbers but I wanted to try other women in the short time I had and did not take any numbers. She was sweet.

Thursday, November 26,2015 - DIA. Date In Asia.

Prior 3 months, I had been checking the DIA website for contacts for my trip to Philippines and Indonesia. I had made contacts with 6 from Jakarta. One wanted to keep her legs crossed till she got married. Me being a helpful guy suggested that she take it up her ass till she got married and she'll still be virgin but the girl did not bite on that! Another lived far on the east side of Jakarta and I was not sure if I wanted to waste too much time with her in case she was not the right girl. She stated that she was an English teacher. Anyway, it seemed that she was also looking to make a few bucks as just before I was about to suggest a place to meet, she told me she had to go to Bali that night for a date and if we could meet another time! Two others turned out to be call girls looking for Mr. Stupids' who would pay big bucks for a fuck. One said that her friend got USD $300.00 from someone at a bar and she expected the same even though she was a bit overweight and not too good in bed. I wished her well. Another wanted USD $200 for an hour. I said good luck to her. Another girl I checked weighed the same as me and that could be a lot for a woman. So, that left me with a girl who lived on the south side, had a very cute photogenic face. I arranged to meet her at the hotel that evening. She was late 20's. It was all kisses and sweet talk with her on WhatsApp. I was getting all excited. I was hoping that I could sweet talk this girl over dinner at the hotel or close by and then fuck her that night. That was the plan. I got a call from her that she was at the hotel. I walked out and did not see anyone. Called her and she said that I just walked by her in the lobby. No way did I think that average looking fat woman was the girl I had been talking to in the lobby. She had double size ass and body. As she was here and I was hungry, I decided to go along with the dinner plans. Guess what. This office worker had her own driver! She said that it is not that expensive to have a car and a driver in Jakarta. OK. We went to a really nice Indonesian restaurant that seemed like a big house had been turned into a restaurant, top tier. The food was really good, well presented. I enjoyed the food. While at the restaurant, this girl spent a lot of time taking selfie's. I looked at the pictures and yes, her face was quite cute in the pictures. I decided to call it end of the day and told her that I had been feeling tired and would like to rest that night. She dropped me back at the restaurant and I did decide to rest that night. A no sex night. I had been suffering from something I caught in Philippines and felt tired. Got nothing from my DIA contacts.

Friday, November 27,2015 - Kalijodo and Blok M bars.

I did sleep well and decided to go to Kalijodo to check it out during the day. I had written the name out on a piece of paper together with Kali Angke road name. The Taxi driver was not too sure and eventually figured what it was and was hesitant to go there. The Jakarta traffic of course made it a very slow and frustrating ride. It was not close at all and a number of times I wondered what I was doing. The posts had said it was the local sex scene and not really inviting for foreigners. A cheap sex corridor. After a long drive, the driver got to the edge of Kalijodo and told me here it was. I was on a busy street with only the locals there. Kalijodo is a Local thriving area where the locals live, have their shops that sell everything from groceries to electrical stuff to restaurants etc. I was the only foreigner there. It was like being in the local hood. Tread carefully as hardly any English is spoken here and it is their place. I walked around the shops, went back across the dirty river and looked around the local alleyways for any signs of sex places or bars. Did not see any. I walked and walked but again to no avail. At no time did I feel afraid. I decided to have a haircut hoping to ask the barber where any sex places maybe. I got the haircut but the barber did not know of the places. I was hungry for some lunch and saw one of the most beautiful Indo woman, tall, nice breasts and booty at a restaurant on the main road. She was very pretty and I decided to have lunch there. She was very helpful and so were the men there. I was not sure if the man was her husband or not. She sat next to me when I was having lunch and smiled and tried talking to me. All the people there were very helpful. I wanted to fuck her but was not sure about who the smiling man behind was and did not want to be shot or chopped into pieces. She was the most beautiful woman I had seen in Jakarta. There has to be some bars and sex places in the area serving the community but where? On what side of the main road going through Kalijodo? Unless someone really knows the exact pinpoints of where the sex places are in Kalijodo, it would be a long tiring drag. I had spent a lot of time here but did not find the spots. So, it was time to head back to Blok M. It was very difficult to find a taxi that would go to Blok M. Most were local taxis and full and also local buses only. Took me a long while to get one to take me back to Blok M. This driver took all the back roads that were very slow than the freeway when I got here. Fighting traffic, I eventually got back to Blok M, late evening.

Rested and decided to go to the Blok M bars later in the evening after dinner.
Took taxi and got there a bit earlier as the bars were empty. Walked round the area and then went inside all the bars on that short street to check them out. There was one bar where a couple of girls just stand on a small stage and hang on to the pole. A few older foreigners there and not any girl there to write home about. MyBar did look nice but I did not see any punters there. Top Gun seemed to be getting busy with a number of girls, more down to earth, easy going and reasonable priced beer. The girls tended to dress casual in this place. Got myself a beer and as there was plenty of time, I stood at a table where I could watch the band and the girls. The girls were not bad at all. They seemed to range from younger to older. I found some girls coming over to me and chatting and even if I did not like them, they would not go away. They tended to latch on to you regardless. I changed tables to get rid of the girls I did not like. The local band that was playing was very good. Good music and good singers. Highly entertaining. I noticed some girls that I had seen at CJs dressed up there and now at Top Gun more cheerful and casual. They also recognized me and came over. I decided to ignore these girls who were asking 2 mil at CJs and trying to latch on for I do not know how much. I talked to some other girls to just to know them. I had another beer and saw a tall shapely woman sitting close to me, very cheerful and went over to talk to her. Very pleasant. She asked me to take her friend but I had interest in her and asked her outright about going back to the hotel. She quoted 800 rupiah and I offered 700 which she accepted. I thought that was reasonable for all night. The taxis also have a racket going on there at night. Though my hotel was close by, they wanted to charged a fixed high price. Took me half that money to get to the bars.

Back at the hotel, we both showered. She had an awesome body and gave a great blowjob. Very eager to please me and we fucked in just about every position before I came and she went down on me again. We talked a bit and she was still playing with my cock and the dick as getting aroused even after I had just fucked her. I am no 20 something year old that my dick gets aroused at the sight of a woman. I just let her play with it while I felt her tits and the body. Nice hard ass too. My dick as getting erect and she went down and started her wonderful blow job. Once it got crazy, she got on top and let her ass do the job. I just let her do all the work and enjoy her crushing ass arousing my dick. Being warmer country, I was sweating a bit and then came inside her while she kept a hard grip on my penis. She lay on top of me with my dick still inside her. She was a really good fuck. We slept for a few hours and then halfway during the night, I had an erection again. I grabbed some lube and felt her a-hole and put some lube inside and on my dick. Got her to lay face down and I slowly pushed my dick up her a-hole and enjoyed the tight hole around my penis. Got into doggy position and pumped her a-hole and finally in missionary style till I came. Both showered again and slept till morning when it was time for some more fucking and blowjobs and this time I came in her mouth. This chick allowed me to do anything to her. We showered and went down to breakfast. She gave me another BJ after breakfast before she left mid morning.

Saturday, November 28,2015 - Malls and Blok M bars.

In the afternoon, I went to change some more money and then went down to Robinson's mall. It was hot and I was sweaty as I was looking for a mobile hotspot. Downstairs, I saw these two really beautiful kittens buying selfie sticks. One was in the tight fitting gold Robinson's dress and the other was in a white top and a black skirt. They kept looking at me while they were doing their shopping. This was a store I had to go into. I tried just saying Hi etc to the girls while I went inside the store. Seemed like the girls probably did not speak much English and I spoke none of their language. These girls were just so gorgeous. Then later after they had made their purchase, one girl came a little closer to me with some rupiah notes in her hand and saying "Money, Money. " with a smile on her face. The message was quite clear that they were available for Money. Unfortunately, not speaking their language, I really did not know how to carry this forward. One thing is pretty clear. There is pussy all over Jakarta and also in Malls. I would have loved to take back these girls back to the hotel and showed them how to make Money. Will try and learn some local dialect next time.

As there were a lot of girls in Top Gun, I went there again and the price is right. I really like the girl who works behind the bar with her big smile and would have loved to fuck her.
Once again, the place was full of crumpet. Lots of women. I sat close to the band and some Indos who did not seem like WGs sat on my table. Two men and 4 girls. They were pleasant to me and I wondered if they were available or just there for the entertainment.
Later moved back a bit to check out the women. Once again, a older woman tried very hard to latch on to me and I had to really tell her that I was not interested in her. I did see the girl from the previous night and we chatted a bit and I told her that I would like to see her next day in the afternoon for about 3-4 hours as I was leaving the next day early for Bali and could not do a trip to the bars. She agreed to come over the next day. I wanted a different pussy and this time a skinner tall girl started talking to me. She seemed fine. She asked 700 rupiah and I offered her 600 for all night. She agreed and we went back to the hotel. I am not one of those wait till closing time and then you can have a girl for cheaper but really, for shorter time too.

Again, we showered and this seemed like she was from country. She would kneel down to wash her pussy. I had no problem with that. Each to their own habits.
Her blowjob skills were not that good to start but she seemed ready to learn. I had to tell her what to do and she was willing to do that, which I found quite acceptable. After first some minutes, her blowjobs were getting really good. She was becoming a pro to the extent that I had to get her mouth off dick as I did not want to come so early and enjoy her body by kissing her and eating her which she liked a lot. Even fucking wise, she did not seem that experienced and I had to direct her a lot. She again was a willing partner. She was far from a star fish as she would get into it once told how to do it. Her pussy was very tight too. Possible that she was a new comer to the scene. After the initial too big dick, her pussy would get very moist and she would be breathing hard and her ass would be shaking. Must have had many orgasms. I fucked her whatever position I wanted about 5 times during the night and morning. Though she was skinny, she ate a whole lot of breakfast. I had no problem with that as I had paid for breakfast for two. She could eat all she wants. She was a rookie and pleasant. Mid morning she left.

Sunday, November 29,2015 - Afternoon Fuck and pack.

I tried to get some rest and then have a big lunch afterwards. I have a early morning flight to Bali next day and hence decided not to go to bars and instead have home delivery of one of the girls already met. This was the girl I had met prior at Top Gun in the white dress. She is quite a tigress. She does not need any direction and leads the way. Just what I wanted. She came around to the hotel as I had asked her and we chatted a bit. I had offered only 200 plus taxi money for 3-4 hours and she did not mind at all. After chit-chat we came down to business and she was unzipping my shorts and sitting on the edge of the bed and took my dick into her mouth. She is an expert Bjjober. Takes her no time to get my penis very large and hard. I did not have time to get down to eat her and pushed her on to the bed, removed her panties and felt her pussy. It was already moist and I pushed my dick into her warm moist pussy. I pushed her long legs on to the bed and kept ramming her. Then turned her around and fucked her doggy style and as I was about to cum, I whipped my dick out and put it in her mouth so that she could enjoy all the ice cream as a welcome gift for the session. She took it all and swolled it and kept sucking the dick for all the cum left. What a player. She took all her clothes off and went to have a shower and wash her pussy. Then we lay for just a half hour before she had my dick in her mouth again. Seems like she wanted to give me a really good Jakarta farewell. She kept sucking my dick, balls and anal rimming for a good half hour and I was hard as a rock. This time I lay her missionary style and pumped her pussy well. Then I turned her over and put a pillow under her ass and fucked her with her round ass against my body. I love this position as the pussy feels tight in this position. Kept pumping her as sweat rolled off my forehead. Then I came and her too as she shuddered about the same time. We relaxed a bit, ate some food I had and drank beer. Something about Jakarta chicks is that they seem pleasant, enjoyable and fun to be with. I like their features as they are not short, have good bodies and could be considered as Asian Latinas. I was not sure how much I had left in my body after all that fucking.

It had been about 3 hours since she had come and before I could ask for anything, she was hard giving me a blow job again. I felt a bit worn out but was just enjoying the BJ. She was quite an expert at it. Someone to hire for a morning wake up session. It was not long that my penis senses the enjoyment of the BJ and started to stiffen up. It looked very hard and big in a very short time. She kept sucking it and then showed me what she had done. Nothing to worry, you are going to get it in your ass. Put the lube on and gently guided my dick into her ass in doggie style. In and out and then at a faster pace till I got the whole of the penis in. She seemed to be enjoying it to as she pushed my ass into her ass. I kept pumping her and then sideways and finally in missionary style in the ass till I came. I was done. A lot of fucking in a short time but worth it. I pulled out, we both showered. She did not want any taxi money as she was taking a Bajaj. I gave her a tip though. What a gal. A nice farewell from Jakarta.

Pictures have already been posted prior to New year of girls I had permission from.

My time in Jakarta was short due to flight delays. I tried to make the best with the short time from the regular monger places. I must have visited only about 10% of Jakarta has to offer in terms of pussy available. There is a lot more that I have not experienced in Jakarta. After I had overcome the frustrations of Jakarta traffic which I hate very much, Jakarta is a haven of the pussies available just about anywhere. Girls just make them available from the known hotels to malls to anywhere you want. As long as Indonesian politicians remain corrupt, the people need money and the girls become available. These are great women with great culture and beauty. One does not have to pay extreme prices at some places as a vagina is a vagina and can be had much more cheaply at other places. There are great deals available everywhere. I am not into massage places as I do not travel thousands of miles for a HJ.

My best places for the best bang for the buck would be The Classic Hotel and Top Gun.
Best entertainment live music I had was in the Classic Hotel and Top Gun.
The hottest Indonesian woman I saw was in Kalijodo.
All of these observations are mine alone and from what I ventured into and not a scientific study. Just enjoy and have a good fucking time.

[QUOTE=LifeIsABeach;1840993]Friday, November 27,2015 - Kalijodo and Blok M bars.

I did sleep well and decided to go to Kalijodo to check it out during the day. I had written the name out on a piece of paper together with Kali Angke road name. The Taxi driver was not too sure and eventually figured what it was and was hesitant to go there. The Jakarta traffic of course made it a very slow and frustrating ride. It was not close at all and a number of times I wondered what I was doing. The posts had said it was the local sex scene and not really inviting for foreigners. A cheap sex corridor. After a long drive, the driver got to the edge of Kalijodo and told me here it was. I was on a busy street with only the locals there. Kalijodo is a Local thriving area where the locals live, have their shops that sell everything from groceries to electrical stuff to restaurants etc. I was the only foreigner there. It was like being in the local hood. Tread carefully as hardly any English is spoken here and it is their place. I walked around the shops, went back across the dirty river and looked around the local alleyways for any signs of sex places or bars. Did not see any. I walked and walked but again to no avail. At no time did I feel afraid. I decided to have a haircut hoping to ask the barber where any sex places maybe. I got the haircut but the barber did not know of the places..[/QUOTE]Something tells me you actually did not visit Kalijodo? Kalijodo has many bars! And girls. Well, at least the last time I visited. Likely, the taxi driver took you somewhere else.

For your next outing. Kalijodo location images from Kaskus.

Tonight is My Bar's birthday party. Supposedly they are going to have sexy dancers dressed as sexy secretaries.

[QUOTE=JoelGoodsen;1841320]Something tells me you actually did not visit Kalijodo? Kalijodo has many bars! And girls. Well, at least the last time I visited. Likely, the taxi driver took you somewhere else.

For your next outing. Kalijodo location images from Kaskus.[/QUOTE]Any chance that you enlarge the location pics??

[QUOTE=JoelGoodsen;1841320]Something tells me you actually did not visit Kalijodo? Kalijodo has many bars! And girls. Well, at least the last time I visited. Likely, the taxi driver took you somewhere else.

For your next outing. Kalijodo location images from Kaskus.[/QUOTE]Joel, how recent is your information? A few months ago, it seemed after a few false starts the local government might go through with their plan to close the place down, similar to what happened to Dolly's in Surabaya. I never heard whether in fact the sex places were closed down, but it seemed like a real possibility it would happen. Anyone else with recent information?

Alexis is supposedly going to be closed for a few days.

[QUOTE=LAGuy5;1841561]Joel, how recent is your information? A few months ago, it seemed after a few false starts the local government might go through with their plan to close the place down, similar to what happened to Dolly's in Surabaya. I never heard whether in fact the sex places were closed down, but it seemed like a real possibility it would happen. Anyone else with recent information?[/QUOTE]Like this?

[URL]http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2016/02/20/kalijodo-be-cleared-feb-29.html[/URL]

The thing I love about predicting doom and gloom all the time (and I've been doing it for the best part of ten years) is that eventually events start to prove you right.

The gentrification of Jakarta proceeds apace, the old free-wheeling, lawless, anything-goes attitude is changing as the good citizens of Jakarta decide that they want a nice respectable town and not the open-air shebeen that we all fell in love with when we first arrived.

So a drunken rich kid crashes his Fortuner coming back from a night out in Kalijodo killing four people and like a flash the excavators move in to uproot 3,000 people from a community that has been there for decades. Isn't it amazing how quickly the usually lethargic Indonesian authorities are when it comes to morality issues? They can't solve the traffic or the flooding or real problems that affect the city but by heavens they can move like avenging angels when it comes to imposing morality on us deviants.

Beer could be bought freely in supermarket shelves for years and then overnight it disappears, one of the priorities in the House of Representatives this year is a total ban on booze.

Porn is banned from the internet, Reddit is inaccessible, they even tried to block Tumblr last week, how long before Tinder and the other apps are blocked? Fun is rapidly being outlawed in this once fun town.

The latest wheeze? Titty dancers, yup, they've banned the nudie shows. Just like that. Two weeks ago the girls danced topless (bottomless too if you stuck around until midnight) and the ones out and about seeking drinks walked around as nature intended, with the exception of tiny g-strings that could be easily moved aside.

All stopped. First the girls on the dance-floor had to remain dressed, but that was actually a benefit, they wore virtually transparent baby dolls without panties and it was actually a better show and you could easily slip these off the girls on the floor.

Not now, the girls dancing are in t-shirts or tops with short skirts, and wearing bras and panties, sure you can, just about, get access to the tits of the ones doing the rounds if you heave and pull at the tops and bras but frankly it's hardly worth the effort, and who knows how long before this is banned too?

All done virtually over-night, no mention of it anywhere, like that the titty dancers are a thing of the past. Like so many other things that have gone from this town by next year people will not believe you when you tell them about how things once were.

[QUOTE=JoelGoodsen;1841320]Something tells me you actually did not visit Kalijodo? Kalijodo has many bars! And girls. Well, at least the last time I visited. Likely, the taxi driver took you somewhere else. For your next outing. Kalijodo location images from Kaskus.[/QUOTE]Hard to tell from your smaller images. It appears that I was in the area but a few blocks off and on the other side of the main road. I recognize those freeways going across. If you have bigger images, that would help.

[QUOTE=LifeIsABeach;1841901]Hard to tell from your smaller images. It appears that I was in the area but a few blocks off and on the other side of the main road. I recognize those freeways going across. If you have bigger images, that would help.[/QUOTE]Those images were from Kaskus as I told you. For bigger maps, in Google you can also type:

"Jl. Kepanduan II, Pejagalan, Daerah Khusus Ibukota Jakarta".

Click on Google maps and a place marker will appear right in the centre of Kalijodo. You can make the map as small or as large as you want.

The Jakarta government clearing Kalijodo next week, on February 29? Don't they have respect for history?

It is the oldest red light district of Jakarta, if not Indonesia! Coming from the aiport, for decennia the colorful lights of Kalijodo have welcomed us home. What a disappointment.

[QUOTE=Hilo77;1841800]the titty dancers are a thing of the past. [/QUOTE]I was in North Jakarta on Thursday night and they had naked titty dancers. I'm not sure what place has been cracked down on, but I haven't noticed it yet.

These things have been going on ever since I have been in Jakarta. One week the police crack down on the nudity, the next week the girls are nude again. Same with the selling of pirate DVD and computer software. They crack down on that on occasion, get their bribes, and they are back again in a week. When I first came to Jakarta, the city used to have nothing going on at all during Ramadan. Remember the attacks on JJ's disco back in the day that caused every place to shut down completely during Ramadan? That's not true anymore, they still have places like Travel, Classic, Malioboro, etc open during Ramadan. I think things are actually more lax now then they were back then.

The one thing they cracked down on that remained was when they banned the sexy tabloids. And that was a damn shame because those were awesome. I used to try to bed as many of the models from those various tabloids as possible. I knew some of the photographers and guys in charge of those tabloids so I had some connections. It was good fun. The FHM type of girls want too much money, but those down market tabloid girls were very much affordable and were quite nice.

Here's a scan of an old calendar that was inserted inside the Lipstick tabloid back in the mid 2000's. I remember that tabloid always posted only photos of girls in bikinis and the shots were taken at an apartment pool in Jakarta. Talk about low overhead. There were much better ones as well like Exotica that used to dress them up in much more interesting outfits, and I have the calendar from that one also but can't seem to find it at the moment.

[QUOTE=JoelGoodsen;1841956]Those images were from Kaskus as I told you. For bigger maps, in Google you can also type:

"Jl. Kepanduan II, Pejagalan, Daerah Khusus Ibukota Jakarta".

Click on Google maps and a place marker will appear right in the centre of Kalijodo. You can make the map as small or as large as you want.

The Jakarta government clearing Kalijodo next week, on February 29? Don't they have respect for history?

It is the oldest red light district of Jakarta, if not Indonesia! Coming from the aiport, for decennia the colorful lights of Kalijodo have welcomed us home. What a disappointment.[/QUOTE]It appears that the taxi driver from Blok M did not know the sex places and dropped at the wrong end of the main road. Never mind. It made sense for folks in West Jakarta and North Jakarta. Let's see if it's still open in March 2015. Prices there seemed what I paid at Dolly's about 12 years ago! 80 -100 rupiah!

[QUOTE=LifeIsABeach;1842366]It appears that the taxi driver from Blok M did not know the sex places and dropped at the wrong end of the main road. Never mind. It made sense for folks in West Jakarta and North Jakarta. Let's see if it's still open in March 2015. Prices there seemed what I paid at Dolly's about 12 years ago! 80 -100 rupiah![/QUOTE]Every taxi driver in Jakarta knows Kalijodo.

Either you went too early in the day and the brothels were closed or the driver was too afraid to drop you close because they are going to shut it down soon.

Too bad.

Good luck for you for the next time if it s still opened but I very doubt it that you will succeed to pay dolly prices from 12 years ago there even if you speak bahasa.

[QUOTE=PrisonBreak;1842392]Every taxi driver in Jakarta knows Kalijodo.

Either you went too early in the day and the brothels were closed or the driver was too afraid to drop you close because they are going to shut it down soon.

Too bad.

Good luck for you for the next time if it s still opened but I very doubt it that you will succeed to pay dolly prices from 12 years ago there even if you speak bahasa.[/QUOTE]To Prison Break.

Not all taxi driver know if you got a one that is new in town he will not know just ask for the Western hotel Hariston near the Ciliwung river yes is better after 6 pm but it is also a danger place to be at night, I been there once don't think I will go back there are so many place in town you can get FS for under 35,000 ,I don't see the point of saving some money go to a dump like this I remember the biggest red light district in asia Kramaatunggak in Ancol over 100 brothels there it closed down back in 1999 you can spend 5 HR there still not cover the whole place 5 time bigger than Dolly Surabuya.

Fast eddie 48.

Don't get much opportunities to visit anymore so need to take advantage when I do come. Landed at 5:20 pm and by 8 pm was busy with some old friends. Some of the old timer might recognize the one on the right. Can go all night.

A hilarious report in today's Jakarta Post states that the city council will inspect Alexis Hotel next week to see if there is prostitution going on there.

Quite apart from the public announcement that you are going to raid somewhere next week thus giving them time to clear up whatever needs clearing up, it was the thought of some council official trying to keep a straight face as he said that there were reports, just reports mind you that he will check up on, that Jakarta's biggest and best known high-end brothel might actually be involved in some way in prostitution cheered me up.

One recalls Claude Raines' character in Casablanca "discovering" that gambling is going on in Rick's Cafe, just prior to being handed his winnings by the croupier.

Mirth aside however, it does appear that the crackdown is proceeding apace.

[QUOTE=Hilo77;1842761]A hilarious report in today's Jakarta Post states that the city council will inspect Alexis Hotel next week to see if there is prostitution going on there.

Quite apart from the public announcement that you are going to raid somewhere next week thus giving them time to clear up whatever needs clearing up, it was the thought of some council official trying to keep a straight face as he said that there were reports, just reports mind you that he will check up on, that Jakarta's biggest and best known high-end brothel might actually be involved in some way in prostitution cheered me up.

One recalls Claude Raines' character in Casablanca "discovering" that gambling is going on in Rick's Cafe, just prior to being handed his winnings by the croupier.

Mirth aside however, it does appear that the crackdown is proceeding apace.[/QUOTE]I don't think there is one Indonesian anywhere in Jakarta (male or female) who does not know what goes on at Alexis - and has known for many years. However, what's going to be even funnier is when the city council member's report finds that there is no prostitution going on there (even though the city council member has been a regular at Alexis for the past 10 years). That the establishment is on the up and up and that there was one occasion where a massage girl went rogue and seems to have taken things a bit too far in the massage room, but she has since been fired and disgraced for such absurd behavior.

I stopped to peek into Alexis earlier today and saw the renovation on the ground floor being 80% complete. Probably why they won't visit till next week, LOL!

On another note, one drop dead gorgeous girl from harbin China available at 2 pm.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1842821]I don't think there is one Indonesian anywhere in Jakarta (male or female) who does not know what goes on at Alexis - and has known for many years. However, what's going to be even funnier is when the city council member's report finds that there is no prostitution going on there (even though the city council member has been a regular at Alexis for the past 10 years). That the establishment is on the up and up and that there was one occasion where a massage girl went rogue and seems to have taken things a bit too far in the massage room, but she has since been fired and disgraced for such absurd behavior.[/QUOTE]Agreed Smoothy. Alexis is an enigma for Indonesians. I have a retired Indo relative (old meaning of Indo) who according to his wife & family has been sponsoring an orphan girl's schooling in Ancol. He has a direct debit setup (for what seems very good value) and every year he chooses a new girl to adopt / sponsor. He manages to vist this girl once or twice a month. You can see his antique Mecedes Benz parked in a hotel on Jl Martidinata some afternoons, though from reading these comments he might not be paying a visit for the next few weeks.

24 February 2016 - 06 H45.

Indonesia plans to close all red-light districts in the country by 2019, an official said Wednesday, stepping up a campaign against prostitution after a controversial push to clear up a brothel area of Jakarta.

The government will instruct local authorities to shut down an estimated 100 red-light districts across the world's most populous Muslim-majority country, said Sonny Manalu, a senior official at the social affairs ministry. "We believe that red-light districts will affect children who live nearby negatively," he told AFP.

"Prostitution can never be erased from the Earth but we must try to stop it corrupting our youth. ".

The move comes after a weeks-long push to close down one of the capital's most notorious red-light districts, called Kalijodo, and replace the illegal brothels and bars with parks.

Jakarta authorities decided to take action after a fatal car accident early this month blamed on a man who had been drinking in the riverside shanty.

But the plan has angered residents, as many are set to be evicted and see their houses demolished in the coming days.

Prostitution is illegal in Indonesia but is rampant in major cities. Local governments, who have substantial power, have already closed 68 red-light districts in recent years, according to Manalu.

This includes Dolly in the country's second-biggest city Surabaya, which was thought to be the largest red-light district in Southeast Asia.

The government is promising to provide training, counselling and assistance for sex workers who their lose their jobs after the closures.

[URL]http://www.france24.com/en/20160224-indonesia-plans-close-all-red-light-districts-2019[/URL]

[QUOTE=FastEddie48;1842701]To Prison Break.

Not all taxi driver know if you got a one that is new in town he will not know just ask for the Western hotel Hariston near the Ciliwung river yes is better after 6 pm but it is also a danger place to be at night, I been there once don't think I will go back there are so many place in town you can get FS for under 35,000 ,I don't see the point of saving some money go to a dump like this I remember the biggest red light district in asia Kramaatunggak in Ancol over 100 brothels there it closed down back in 1999 you can spend 5 HR there still not cover the whole place 5 time bigger than Dolly Surabuya.

Fast eddie 48.[/QUOTE]Can you recommend any of the local cheap places?

I will be in Jakarta next month and by then Kalijodo will probably closed down:

[QUOTE=LifeIsABeach;1843315]
Indonesia plans to close all red-light districts in the country by 2019[/QUOTE]Other than Kalijodo, what area in Jakarta is considered a "red-light district"? There are plenty of single establishments all over town, but I can't think of a red-light district in town that compares to a Dolly or Kalijodo.

[QUOTE=Kuranyi;1843396]Can you recommend any of the local cheap places?

I will be in Jakarta next month and by then Kalijodo will probably closed down:[/QUOTE]To Kuaranyi.

I alreay told you there are many low end massage place all over Jakarta you can get service for around 350 k. I don't know what is cheap for you, I am sure there are place you can get service for under 200 k for the local just ask them.

Fast eddie 48.

I will soon come to Jakarta for my second visit, last time I was here was in 2013, but it looks like not that much have changed. I plan to visit Hotel Classic again and maybe Blok M (although it seems to have lost value). I have one week to spare.

Reading from this board FM1 and Kings Cross come as interesting places, I will check them out.

That's the ST-places, but what about LT? It seems to be very expensive in Jakarta. Last time I visited Bats, but this time I will go to CJs instead. The issues, I think, are not only with the prices, but also that it's not really LT. If you find a girl at 11 pm and she just stays until 5 am, that's more like Medium Time. Reading from this board I get the impression that often this is the case. If I find someone willing to stay until noon the next day I would gladly pay 1500 k (or even 2000 k if she's really hot) but not if she leaves in the middle of the night. Then it will be better just to have two ST-sessions at another place.

The question is: how make it long time? Is some days of the week better for this? And what time should I arrive in the bar?

[QUOTE=JohnTraveller;1843755]

That's the ST-places, but what about LT? It seems to be very expensive in Jakarta. Last time I visited Bats, but this time I will go to CJs instead. The issues, I think, are not only with the prices, but also that it's not really LT. If you find a girl at 11 pm and she just stays until 5 am, that's more like Medium Time. Reading from this board I get the impression that often this is the case. If I find someone willing to stay until noon the next day I would gladly pay 1500 k (or even 2000 k if she's really hot) but not if she leaves in the middle of the night. Then it will be better just to have two ST-sessions at another place.

The question is: how make it long time? Is some days of the week better for this? And what time should I arrive in the bar?[/QUOTE]There's no such thing as what day of the week is better than this. They're being paid more than a month's salary of nearly half of Indonesian women in this country yet they still have the cheek to ask to leave early?

In the old days they'd stay till the next day no problem. 4 or 5 hours is definitely not my definition of LT, and I make them fully aware I won't tolerate them leaving early.

The tried and tested excuses of "my kid needs to go to school" or "key to my place is with me and someone needs to get in" are what they'll say to justify leaving early. There's no reason they should be allowed to take advantage of us.

If they insist on going home early, don't give them the full amount as then they'll do that same trick with the next monger.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1843517]Other than Kalijodo, what area in Jakarta is considered a "red-light district"? There are plenty of single establishments all over town, but I can't think of a red-light district in town that compares to a Dolly or Kalijodo.[/QUOTE]I think most lokalisasi closed down when Ali Sadikin opened up Kramat Tunggak in Tugu such as the legendary Macao Po and Suwean (Jassenberg). Bongkaran and Boger are still open for tricks. Kaligot (taken from the French Aligot Theater) in Sawah Besar has some activity.

Senen Planet has got a mention in this forum recently. It's at the carriages between Senen Station and Jl Tanah Nyonya. If you want to find them I'd hire a Betawi Taxi driver in his late 60's as some of these streets and places have been renamed.

[QUOTE=JohnTraveller;1843755].... The question is: how make it long time? Is some days of the week better for this? And what time should I arrive in the bar?[/QUOTE]Show up around 11 pm. When you screen the lady you want, you ask her how long she will stay. If she says 5 am or something that you don't want, then you tell her you want her to stay until noon. If she can't, then you negotiate for the short time. In the mean time, you can still look for the next one who can stay LT.

I agree with you. I'm not paying a LT price for a few hours (plus her sleeping for a few) only to have her leave at 5 or 6 am.

[QUOTE=UsPete;1843787]I think most lokalisasi closed down when Ali Sadikin opened up Kramat Tunggak in Tugu such as the legendary Macao Po and Suwean (Jassenberg). Bongkaran and Boger are still open for tricks. Kaligot (taken from the French Aligot Theater) in Sawah Besar has some activity.

Senen Planet has got a mention in this forum recently. It's at the carriages between Senen Station and Jl Tanah Nyonya. If you want to find them I'd hire a Betawi Taxi driver in his late 60's as some of these streets and places have been renamed.[/QUOTE]I thought Planet and Boker (Boger?) were closed in similar actions to the one in Kalijodo, a long long time ago. Or have they risen from their ashes?

For me, what really matters is the unproportional increase of the money they want. And considering the quality that is offered I can not stop wonder how they dare to ask. But is it their fault or the mongerer's? If I compare it with Medellin, where girls in the casas are arguably far better looking, I praise myself lucky to be there regularly. For less than 150 K in rupiahs, including the room, you can find stunners all over el centro.

[QUOTE=Menteng;1844068]I thought Planet and Boker (Boger?) were closed in similar actions to the one in Kalijodo, a long long time ago. Or have they risen from their ashes?[/QUOTE]Can't imagine Gang Boker in Ciracas ever really closing as it's prime market is for the military personnel stationed in the area.

Planet Senen is a very eccentric place, worthy of turning into a tourist attraction where the jablay / girls sometimes dance on soap boxes and flirt with passers by. Popular with teenagers the short-time stalls may well be closed.

It's this bloody internet media that is causing all the pricing confusion and mayhem not the local authorities. Ohh and all the sexpats drifting into town to my utter despair.

Tambora.

Well I finally bite the bullet and visited the downmarket alley where Royal Max, Berlian and Kartika are located. Incidentally there are two other darker, narrower, dingier alleyways where there are more bars between them and Illegals. But anyway, all three soapies are rather extremely challenged in finding anyone half way decent looking. Royal Max at 260 k for a soapy was the cheapest with Kartika the highest at 370 k. Of course I took the lowest option and requested someone who wasn't too too bad. I mean she went through the motions of body to body and did followed directions of what I wanted her to do; however, the overall atmosphere / ambience of the area, the bar and the room were a big big detraction leading me to unable to get in much of any mood. Oh, well life goes on and at least I did one there.

Based on some recent reports I went out to FM1 (in grogol) and found it to be a big new find. Cheaper that Classic / Travel at 275 k for over half the girls in the 5th floor club. Overall not very many to pick from at.

maybe 30; however, a good percentage were what I like: young, slim and busty. I took the one who looked like she had the biggest rack (e cup) and got a great GFE experience with plenty of deep french kissing.

This is definitely a place to go back to, needless the say not easy to get to.

BTW two last points, the bars appear to be in extreme low key mode with lots of places having girls dancing on stage in street or near street clothes and it was great to get through customs / immigration without paying $35. The pay windows are still there so I don't know who has to pay or not.

[QUOTE=ABCinLA;1844411] it was great to get through customs / immigration without paying $35. The pay windows are still there so I don't know who has to pay or not.[/QUOTE]The $35 VOA fee is waived for [I]tourists[/I] from a list of countries including the United States. If one is there on business or is not from one of the countries for which the fee is waived, one still has to pay the $35 fee, or at least that is the rule.

Incidentally, there was a bit of a kerfuffle here a few months ago where some said their average wait from the time they got off the airplane until they got through customs was over an hour at CGK. I suggested my experience was different, and given the disagreement that developed I decided to time how long it took for me to get from my airplane to the taxi stand my last two visits. It was 27 and 18 minutes, respectively. If I didn't have to pay for the VOA, I would have gotten out of there in less than 27 minutes the first time because while I was paying the VOA fee a long line was queuing at immigration. It should be noted though I am usually one of the first ones off my airplane, and I then proceed to the VOA window and immigration at a rather brisk pace. And because I fly business class, my luggage gets priority when they put it on the conveyor belt, but if I recall correctly one of the guys here who claimed it usually took an hour or more before he got through customs also said he flew business class, and in any event, I doubt the fact my luggage is marked priority saves more than five or ten minutes at the most. .

On the other hand, there have been occasions where I had to wait as long as about 45 minutes before getting to the taxi stand, but for me that has not been the norm and I do not recall ever waiting as long as an hour (knock on wood)..

Does anyone know what happened to Korpern Ko, his posts, and his photos? He used to be a regular on this forum?

After 10+ trips in 15 years Jakarta is finally fired. Not any single monstrous event, instead a host of aggravations.

Getting in.

No waiting in customs (second off the plane), however the official requested (for the first time) to see my onward ticket. I'm a 40+ average Rolex and Rimowa business dude. I hardly look like a backpacker. I just shook my head like I didn't have one and he called a senior guy over and said to gain entry I need proof of exit. Fine, dig through my carry-on for the printout and will admit they seemed crestfallen when I produced it. They spent a good 10 min going through the hundreds of stamps in my fat passport and only begrudgingly let me in. I was polite the entire time. I think that was a smile on my face and not a smirk.

No proper lineup for taxis, everyone bunches together on the curb (the smarter ladies sat down on curb), 5 min later someone comes by and gives you a slip of paper with a number on it. Mine was '13' - of course they call out the numbers in Indonesian and for forget about you. Finally I just went over and said get me a Silverbird. If I remember correctly the normal fare is like 20 - 25 k to Shangri-la?

Fuck, it took us 35 min to get out of the airport to the first turn off to the expressway, 35 min sitting standstill in a taxi looking at the airport you just left can get infuriating while the meter slowly climbs. All-in it was a 2 HR 20 min ride to the hotel (430,000) - when I was half laughing about it to the check-in gal she said I was lucky, it took people 3 HR the day prior. (groan).

Of course to even GET to the hotel check-in gal, and have that conversation I had to go through beefed up security at the door, was forced to take out my single-packet astroglide, cock ring, phone and everything else and put it on the plate for all the nice dressed up Indonesians to see.

Mongering fail.

Went to Lokasari Plaza in evening to see if any of the mamasans still working, nope, just a few fat girls and one mama that brought me to a cluster of other fatties. Always still bemoan the loss of Today Country.

Hit Bintang Mawar, some good memories of a few girls, this time every seat if full of local sausage and girls are very few. Had to suffer through two drunk locals trying to make conversation with me and raising their glasses at every sip to cheers me. Meh.

SA and LA Cafe. Only a handful of bars open here now, started on the left side (facing in), appeared to be a massage place with half open fishbowl, no obvious signs of 'upstairs' so gave it a pass. On to LA Cafe. Same as before. In years past would sit in here all day and go from beer to girl until late evening running through 4 or 5 of them. There were a lot of girls (weekend) but they were all chubby chasers, cute but fat. Not FAT really like fat girls are in the Philippines with rolls of flesh, but 'fat' like a slug after it just had a blood feast. Full, or overfull if you will. Took an average looking girl upstairs, mama quoting 380,000 tho I swore last time I was here it was 30. Girl gave me a good wash down and proceeded to try to blow me with the tips of her teeth so her lips didn't have to touch my cock. Ate her out for 10 min and then when I went to fuck her nothing was working, just looking at this bloated farm girl with a massive gaping hole that looked like you could fist without touching the sides. I couldn't get it up (unusual for me). Just left, not upset. My fault, not hers.

Next night took Silverbird, was going to hit SA & LA again but we got to talking and he knew all the spots, heard Kalijodo was closing next week. So asked him to take me. He said 'cannot' it's closed down. I thought it was just the typical BS (let me take your somewhere else) or fear about imminent closing, but indeed the place is closed down and they appear to be doing demolition. There were a lot of people still around (the day of closing I guess) so we kept going.

Back to LA and took another girl, no warning signs at all, seemed nice enough to share a drink with. Took her upstairs and alarm bells began to chime. She washed my dick no less than 3 x with 3 different soaps, then made me use mouthwash. (again I'm a very clean looking guy, no bad breath, wearing clean clothes and cologne etc). Fine. We settle on the bed and she gets ck up to get the Listerine again and proceeds to wipe my dick down again with Listerine this time (little burn there) before she blows me. Once her lips came in contact with my leg (instead of just my dick and she proceeded to spit on the sheets and then pointed at my leg like I would understand). Completely average, I'd say on par with turning your moms vacuum cleaner on and sticking your knob in it. One speed (light-speed) no finesse if-I-can-only-manage-to-yank-this-thing-hard-and-fast-enough-I-can-get-out-of-here. Rgh. Tell her to lay down and I'll eat her out, no cannot. WTF? Cannot lick you? No cannot. Normally when a girl says this I listen, they know their pussy better than I do, warts, STD, stink. Fine. However this girls pussy was beautiful, almost no hair, clean etc. She just had some kind of disease fetish. Didn't even want to tell her I'm ready for boom-boom, no condom but will pull out and cum on her tits. (sigh) WTF, already paid my 380,000 + 140,000 (my beer (900) and her water (500)) so what the hell. No cannot. I just got up, put my pants on and left while she was jabbering away about condom. I turned around and said it's not the condom it's that you won't even let me lick your twat. Whatever. Downstairs mamasans could care less, I told one and she shrugged and brought another girl. Since the first girl was her recommendation I declined.

SA had just a few girls (9 pm) and the were in street clothes, nothing more off putting then seeing a dozen girls in jeans and t-shirts playing on their cellphones not even bothering to look up at you.

Back to Lokasari for a look around, still no mamasan, a few 35 yo hookers by the Pizza hut.

Thought about hitting CJ's but really. What's the point, can get better (and easier) service in PI or TH or Germany. Just about anywhere really.

1) Traffic is a nightmare here (always been bad, worse than ever) 3 miles from Lokasari to Shangri-la takes 35 - 40 min (you could almost walk faster than a taxi at 15 min mile).

2) Government seems to have the funds, willpower and moral fortitude to demolish places like Kalijodo, Dolly and RLD but they don't care about intense poverty, infrastructure, helping kids, crime, education, or tourism.

3) Never know what you will get in brothels. If girls fail to deliver you have no recourse (and the girls seem to know it) Never an issue before cause they all gave good service.

4) Girls addicted to phones and no rules about phones in bars. No way to compete with Facebook or candy crush.

Always hate to write-off a mongering destination, esp one I had good fun in. In the past. But surely this is my last trip to Jakarta. For the rest of you. Good luck!

Kalijodo's closure hitting the Australian news.

[URL]http://www.smh.com.au/world/red-lights-go-out-in-kalijodo-where-troops-outnumbered-residents-20160229-gn69gw.html[/URL]

Wonder why this has to be Australian news? I always had the feeling some Aussie journalists reading these pages.

Kalijodo is gone:

[URL]http://www.bbc.com/indonesia/berita_indonesia/2016/02/160229_indonesia_kalijodo_update[/URL]

[QUOTE=UsPete;1844273]Can't imagine Gang Boker in Ciracas ever really closing as it's prime market is for the military personnel stationed in the area.

Planet Senen is a very eccentric place, worthy of turning into a tourist attraction where the jablay / girls sometimes dance on soap boxes and flirt with passers by. Popular with teenagers the short-time stalls may well be closed.

It's this bloody internet media that is causing all the pricing confusion and mayhem not the local authorities. Ohh and all the sexpats drifting into town to my utter despair.

Tambora.[/QUOTE]Haven't been to Boker for a long time for it was (going to be) closed down. Primemarket or not, Dolly, Bangun Redjo, was supposed to cater to the biggest naval base in S. E. Asia. See what happened.

[URL]http://jakartaglobe.beritasatu.com/news/kalijodo-alexis-hotel-may-next-north-jakarta-mayor/[/URL]

If they go through with the threat to close Alexis, it would seem Classic, Travel, Malioboro, and a lot of other locales in North Jakarta could be in jeopardy.

Normally, if all that was being talked about was Alexis, I would suspect it might be an attempt to get bigger bribes. But that they are going after Kalijodo (now closed) and Alexis at the same time suggests it may be a real attempt to close down prostitution venues.

I note the mayor of North Jakarta, Rustam Effendi, is one of the politicians taking the lead (I didn't even realize North Jakarta had a mayor). Out of curiosity, does anyone know whether he is Chinese (with an assimilated name), Muslim, or some other religion? I ask because I'm trying to figure out whether there is some sort of ethnic thing going on here (it being North Jakarta) or whether it is a pure anti-prostitution play. Then again, I don't know the ethnicities of most of the former residents of Kalijodo, perhaps primarily Muslim?

Then again, is this really going to be the trend, i.e., vigorous attempts to close red-light districts, in Indonesia going forward?

[URL]http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2016/02/23/indonesia-close-all-red-light-districts-2019.html/[/URL]

[QUOTE=ElephantBeer;1845149]A
Fuck, it took us 35 min to get out of the airport to the first turn off to the expressway, 35 min sitting standstill in a taxi looking at the airport you just left can get infuriating while the meter slowly climbs. All-in it was a 2 HR 20 min ride to the hotel (430,000) - when I was half laughing about it to the check-in gal she said I was lucky, it took people 3 HR the day prior. (groan).


![/QUOTE]Great report and good wordsmithing.

35 minutes to get out of the airport. Nasty. Recal leaving LE Meridien once on a Friday afternoon. To get to the road going to airport, you had to go up a road, make a you turn, go down that road, mke another you turn and finally you were on road to airport. Distance, probably 400 metres. On that particular Friday afternoon, took 2. 5 hours to do the 400 metres. Two planes home missed and some rather challenges times with the then Mrs Freebie, trying to explain why I arrived home 8 hours later than scheduled. Jakarta. Never without some fun and games and a sting in the tail.

[QUOTE=LAGuy5;1845798]I note the mayor of North Jakarta, Rustam Effendi, is one of the politicians taking the lead (I didn't even realize North Jakarta had a mayor). Out of curiosity, does anyone know whether he is Chinese (with an assimilated name), Muslim, or some other religion? I ask because I'm trying to figure out whether there is some sort of ethnic thing going on here (it being North Jakarta) or whether it is a pure anti-prostitution play. Then again, I don't know the ethnicities of most of the former residents of Kalijodo, perhaps primarily Muslim?

Then again, is this really going to be the trend, i.e., vigorous attempts to close red-light districts, in Indonesia going forward?[/QUOTE]Apart from the governor Ahok there are no Chinese or indeed non-Muslim senior officials in the Jakarta administration. One Christian woman was appointed a district head in South Jakarta last year and that caused a brouhaha.

It has been suggested to me that this is a big play by Ahok to recreate the old official red-light district that used to be in existence in North Jakarta and which was shut down in the early 90's (if I am not mistaken). Ahok has already said that he believes that prostitution cannot be outlawed but it should be regulated and controlled in one specific venue.

I can't help but think he is on to a loser with this strategy. He will certainly be able to close all the current venues (all complacent ideas that big business interests would prove stronger than the local administration were conclusively rebutted when Stadium was closed) but the idea that he will be able then to open a super, official red-light district is absurd. Not with the febrile atmosphere that is going on now, not with this whole anti-LGBT, anti-porno, anti-booze sentiment that is being whipped up.

Face it gentlemen, things are changing here more rapidly than we realise. Accept it in the way you have accepted everything else. Just like booze there will still be plenty of opportunities available, but just like booze it will take much more time and effort to get it, you won't just be able to pop out and pick it up as you feel like, and it's going to cost a lot more too.

Sad, but there you have it.

[QUOTE=HotMale9833;1845118]Does anyone know what happened to Korpern Ko, his posts, and his photos? He used to be a regular on this forum?[/QUOTE]I suspect he is keeping a very low profile after the chastening he received from his regular girls at Dee's Place after he published their pictures here.

To say that they were furious about what he did would be a mild understatement. He is persona non grata now and given that he limited his forays to the dancers at Dee's and the girls at Marabaya he presumably has little to report these days.

[QUOTE=ABCinLA;1844411]Well I finally bite the bullet and visited the downmarket alley where Royal Max, Berlian and Kartika are located. Incidentally there are two other darker, narrower, dingier alleyways where there are more bars between them and Illegals. But anyway, all three soapies are rather extremely challenged in finding anyone half way decent looking. Royal Max at 260 k for a soapy was the cheapest with Kartika the highest at 370 k. Of course I took the lowest option and requested someone who wasn't too too bad. I mean she went through the motions of body to body and did followed directions of what I wanted her to do; however, the overall atmosphere / ambience of the area, the bar and the room were a big big detraction leading me to unable to get in much of any mood. Oh, well life goes on and at least I did one there.
[/QUOTE]Oh, come on, those places aren't that bad! For a hot tip, try Vivi at Berlian. Fun, nice tits, you can come in her mouth, she swallows, and she suggests she'll give you a quick one at the beginning, followed by a long, excellent massage and then a second shot at the end. Her idea, not mine, but it didn't seem like such a bad one. I think the official fee is something like 285 k, but I usually give 400 k. It generates enthusiasm for my next visit.

[QUOTE=Hilo77;1845845]I suspect he is keeping a very low profile after the chastening he received from his regular girls at Dee's Place after he published their pictures here.

To say that they were furious about what he did would be a mild understatement. He is persona non grata now and given that he limited his forays to the dancers at Dee's and the girls at Marabaya he presumably has little to report these days.[/QUOTE]Isn't he one of the guys here (or formerly here) who severely criticized the contributions of others because they chose not to post girls' photos without their permission?

[QUOTE=Hilo77;1845845]I suspect he is keeping a very low profile after the chastening he received from his regular girls at Dee's Place after he published their pictures here.

To say that they were furious about what he did would be a mild understatement. He is persona non grata now and given that he limited his forays to the dancers at Dee's and the girls at Marabaya he presumably has little to report these days.[/QUOTE]I wonder who showed them the pics? There is no way they would ever be viewing them here on their own. My bet is that it was one of the 2 dilweeds that were insulting him here about being fat.

[QUOTE=LAGuy5;1845870]Isn't he one of the guys here (or formerly here) who severely criticized the contributions of others because they chose not to post girls' photos without their permission?[/QUOTE]What a coincidence. He posts photos like that on here for 10 years, then right after arguing with you about posting photos, someone from this site shows them to the girls.

[QUOTE=Hilo77;1845842]Face it gentlemen, things are changing here more rapidly than we realise. Accept it in the way you have accepted everything else. Just like booze there will still be plenty of opportunities available, but just like booze it will take much more time and effort to get it, you won't just be able to pop out and pick it up as you feel like, and it's going to cost a lot more too.

Sad, but there you have it.[/QUOTE]My guess is commercial sex is going to become more internet-based. There's already a bit of a move in that direction, but with the closing of brick-and-mortar venues, it's going to intensify.

But perhaps there's no need to worry. As for the move to "eliminate red light districts by 2019", well, has anyone seen any evidence that any Indonesian government agency can consistently implement ANY policy of ANY sort for three years in a row? Quite often, they'll announce some new regulation in the morning and then cancel it by the afternoon (eg. The regulation banning Gojek). In other cases, it might remain in force for a full month or two (eg. Banning cattle imports from Australia). But three years?! It will be a first!

After reading a couple reports on B'Fashion going both strong positive as well as negative I figured I had to give it a try. The rooftop open spa is really nice especially with an attached swiming pool. Of course owing to the weather the pool isn't really useable at this time of year. I saw the side line girls but felt like a good relaxing massage ending with a blow job. I was quoted around 650 k; however it ended up costing 720 k, but I was ok with it. I told the mamasan I wanted one with big boobs and ended up with someone similar to #33 at Kimiochi. I was told that if I didn't like what I saw a changed could be made. Very decent massage followed by an oily boby to boby rub and lastly, the ok covered blow job. I can see coming back; probably in a future trip.

Additionally, a trip was out to King Cross. Friends had mentioned to me previously who ventured there in late 2015 that prices were way up, but there had been recent indications that they might have dropped down a bit. Well all the first floor local ladies are now 670 k for the hour service. They looked overall a bit better from what I remembered in 2015; however, back then it was only 345 k (competing against MTR2 at the time). Now the second floor sauna price was slightly lower at 600 k for an hour and a half service. Only like 12 girls were available there and all had a slightly lethargic attitude. Of course at that price I figured the sauna was a better value and took the best looking one with a rack. She did go through the motions; however no blow job at all. Not happy with that, I may still go back on some future trip figuring I'll verify next time a CBJ is on the to do list.

[QUOTE=Hilo77;1841800]Titty dancers, yup, they've banned the nudie shows. Just like that. [/QUOTE]I had thought the dancers were continuing on in certain spots. But now it seems everywhere has stopped the naked dancers. I haven't checked every club in town, but I have checked many, and I'm guessing you are right that now a ban on all naked dancers in Jakarta is fully in force. Although this has happened many times in the past, when I talk to the management, they seemed seriously concerned that perhaps the naked dancing has come to an end.

[QUOTE=GonzoTwo;1845943]But three years?! It will be a first![/QUOTE]I don't know about that. They banned the sexy tabloids back in 2006 and they still haven't come back.

[QUOTE=Hilo77;1845842]Apart from the governor Ahok there are no Chinese or indeed non-Muslim senior officials in the Jakarta administration. .[/QUOTE]Hilo77 I'm afraid you're picking up fag ends from the newspapers. I guess you haven't tried getting a license from the Jakarta bureacracy in recent years. If you had you'd find yourself bombarded by Christian Batak's offering to help and expidite your paperwork, one of whom Pardede is a very effective but low profile Mayor of Jakart Pusat.

[QUOTE=GonzoTwo;1845943] ....As for the move to "eliminate red light districts by 2019", well, has anyone seen any evidence that any Indonesian government agency can consistently implement ANY policy of ANY sort for three years in a row? Quite often, they'll announce some new regulation in the morning and then cancel it by the afternoon (eg. The regulation banning Gojek). In other cases, it might remain in force for a full month or two (eg. Banning cattle imports from Australia). But three years?! It will be a first![/QUOTE]Still on this religious theme (the changes in Jakarta are about votes not religious opinions or sentiments IMHO) if you huff and puff your way up the stairs in the Sarinah building, Thamrin on one of the boarded up doors on the 9 or 10th? Floor you'll see a small sign that say Moslems can not enter. This floor was the site of one of the licensed casino's in the 70's. The casino closed and lost it's permit in about 1974.

Many Jakartan's have been waiting 40 years for it to reopen.

[QUOTE=UsPete;1846118]Hilo77 I'm afraid you're picking up fag ends from the newspapers. I guess you haven't tried getting a license from the Jakarta bureacracy in recent years. If you had you'd find yourself bombarded by Christian Batak's offering to help and expidite your paperwork, one of whom Pardede is a very effective but low profile Mayor of Jakart Pusat.[/QUOTE]I stand corrected, no need to get snarky about it.

[QUOTE](the changes in Jakarta are about votes not religious opinions or sentiments IMHO) if you huff and puff your way up the stairs in the Sarinah building, Thamrin on one of the boarded up doors on the 9 or 10th? Floor you'll see a small sign that say Moslems can not enter. This floor was the site of one of the licensed casino's in the 70's. The casino closed and lost it's permit in about 1974.

Many Jakartan's have been waiting 40 years for it to reopen.[/QUOTE]I agree, it's not a religious thing, I have said this in previous posts. It's a middle-class thing, when booze, porn, sex and drugs were the preserve of the very wealthy, deadbeats or bules no one much cared about them. Now, however, the respectable ibu-ibu have got themselves a nice house in Bekasi or Depok, with a Honda parked in the drive, hubby has a good job with the bank and the kids get to go to a half-decent school, and they don't want their lately acquired bourgeois lifestyle, or more importantly their kids, infected with all this nasty business of LGBT / narkoba / prostitusi / porno / oplosan* (delete as appropriate) that seems to be everywhere these days.

It's no different to how our own home countries got gentrified in the past.

The casinos are gone, the swimsuit model magazines are gone, the titty dancers are gone, Stadium is gone, Kalijodo is gone, the internet is censored, the booze is disappearing, none of it is coming back.

No worries, we will still be able to get what we're looking for but the good old days are now officially at an end.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1845885]I wonder who showed them the pics? There is no way they would ever be viewing them here on their own. My bet is that it was one of the 2 dilweeds that were insulting him here about being fat.[/QUOTE]Probably not, more likely a lurker who gets a kick out of messing things up. You will recall I got into a spot of bother a few years ago on another site for posting a perfectly innocent, indeed complimentary, picture and comment on one of our favorite waitresses, the person who showed it to her was, I am sure, not even a contributor, just an irritating sneak. I learned my lesson then.

I feel sorry for Ko, he liked to lounge in Dee's with the girls all around him (at least I am guessing it was him), he seemed to enjoy the ego trip it gave him but he really should have cleared it with them before he posted the pics the way he did.

It may be a blessing in disguise. The current girls at Dees are not very attractive relative to what's out there in Jakarta. I always thought the hottest one was Anjani, but I visited Dees the other night and took Anjani into the VIP room. When her clothes came off, I was so disappointed. Her body is saggy and soft now. She has obviously pumped out a kid. She's been there at least 10 years now anyway. Unfortunately, like Maribaya, Dees has not been refreshing their stock lately. Especially VIP room workers.

There have been some cuties in Dees over the years, but the place is pretty dire these days. Girls like Cweety, Ani, and Ana were very cute little spinners that are no longer there. Those girls were young and comparable to any cuteness anywhere in town. However, the last truly beautiful girl working the's was the waitress you reference. She was marriage material.

Dees is still good to hang out and have a relatively quiet beer. But as far as finding cute girls, these days there are much better alternative hang outs in town and I'd be glad to show Ko a few of them if he's interested.

[QUOTE=Hilo77;1846320] the titty dancers are gone[/QUOTE]I'm still not sold on that one. I think they will be back.

[QUOTE=Orangganteng;1845891]What a coincidence. He posts photos like that on here for 10 years, then right after arguing with you about posting photos, someone from this site shows them to the girls.[/QUOTE]If you are insinuating (with no evidence whatsoever) that I showed Ko's photos to the girls, you are every bit the asshole that the person who showed them the pictures is. This assumes someone indeed showed the pictures to the girls and the girls didn't stumble on them on the internet. In this regard, in Thailand many of the girls monitor this forum and I wouldn't rule out the possibility that some of the girls working in Jakarta could do the same (although they would have to use an internet provider that doesn't block this site, which in my experience is not so difficult to find). But given the girls from different venues both found out around the same time, that does tilt it towards someone showing the photos to them or there being some crosstalk between some of the girls who work at D's Place and those who work at Maribaya..

In any case, if you had followed the earlier posts on this subject, most since deleted by the administrator, your thinly-veiled accusation against me would also suggest you are not good at processing information or drawing logical conclusions. Quite apart from the fact I wasn't the only poster involved in the argument, and quite apart from the fact many here saw the argument but were undoubtedly lurkers (lurkers can be offended by behavior here too, including the posting of unauthorized photos), my first interaction here concerning photos was when one of the seniors slammed me when I revealed I take photos of the girls, but will not post them without permission. So, I like taking photos. Showing the girls their photos off the internet would be the fastest way to shut down all photo taking at a particular venue. That would entirely go against my own interest in obtaining photos in the future for my personal use.

If you have had trouble following the above, the short answer to your post is stop making unsubstantiated and defamatory accusations.

Me thinks thou dost protest too much.

It's pretty obvious what happened.

[QUOTE=Orangganteng;1846467]Me thinks thou dost protest too much.

It's pretty obvious what happened.[/QUOTE]

Yeah Einstein, you got it. If I did not respond to your defamation, that would be an admission it was true. On the other hand, if I responded by stating your accusation was false and defamatory, that would be an admission it was true, at least by your twisted logic. Unfortunately, the anonymity of the internet provides a place for dregs like you to make such outrageous accusations against others without real consequences.

You have been on this forum for somewhere around ten years and have a total of 17 posts, assuming your handle is not an alter-ego handle, which if it were wouldn't surprise anyone. Four of your negative posts are reproduced here (one above, and three follow); I suspect they give a good sense of the type of person you are.

[QUOTE=Orangganteng;754046]Glad you enjoyed yourself. I doubt that girl stayed with her parents. Almost all of these girls parents live in kampungs far outside Jakarta. It's more likely that she had to get back to her herpes infected bajaj driver indonesian boyfriend who was waiting on the blok for her to finish so he could collect the money you gave her and give her some dick. I'm sure he was watching you from his bajaj as you were taking her to the Ambhara. Those guys are out trying to shag anything they can while their girl is away, so she would be rushing back to him to avoid him doing one of the other girls there. As much as I enjoy shagging the Blok M girls, DATY with those girls is not something I would be interested in. I consider it tantamount to sucking off one of those bajaj drivers. The chances he was barebacking her just a few hours prior are extremely high.[/QUOTE]
Well that was certainly informative, if not a bit pathological, wasn't it?

[QUOTE=Orangganteng;1615030]You are correct. It's best to ignore posters like him.
Does anyone have any recommend for a place to go Sunday night?[/QUOTE]
So there is no misunderstanding, the above was directed at another poster. A really informative and helpful contribution.

[QUOTE=Orangganteng;1845891]What a coincidence. He posts photos like that on here for 10 years, then right after arguing with you about posting photos, someone from this site shows them to the girls.[/QUOTE]
See my response earlier in this thread. I guess the fact I was one of a few people who argued with that Ko guy about what did and did not represent a legitimate contribution to this forum (I stated it did not necessarily require photo documentation) means I must have shown the girls at Maribaya and D's place his photos. How moronic.

[QUOTE=Orangganteng;1846467]Me thinks thou dost protest too much.

It's pretty obvious what happened.[/QUOTE]To Orangganteng.

LA is right old Ko have been accused many ISG member included myself for not posting photo than I am not for real, Yet all his photo is from the same girl over and over again he pick up at the place and maurabya some is old from 10 yr ago.

Fast eddie 48.

[QUOTE=Hilo77;1845842]Apart from the governor Ahok there are no Chinese or indeed non-Muslim senior officials in the Jakarta administration. One Christian woman was appointed a district head in South Jakarta last year and that caused a brouhaha.

It has been suggested to me that this is a big play by Ahok to recreate the old official red-light district that used to be in existence in North Jakarta and which was shut down in the early 90's (if I am not mistaken). Ahok has already said that he believes that prostitution cannot be outlawed but it should be regulated and controlled in one specific venue.

I can't help but think he is on to a loser with this strategy. He will certainly be able to close all the current venues (all complacent ideas that big business interests would prove stronger than the local administration were conclusively rebutted when Stadium was closed) but the idea that he will be able then to open a super, official red-light district is absurd. Not with the febrile atmosphere that is going on now, not with this whole anti-LGBT, anti-porno, anti-booze sentiment that is being whipped up.

Face it gentlemen, things are changing here more rapidly than we realise. Accept it in the way you have accepted everything else. Just like booze there will still be plenty of opportunities available, but just like booze it will take much more time and effort to get it, you won't just be able to pop out and pick it up as you feel like, and it's going to cost a lot more too.

Sad, but there you have it.[/QUOTE]Hate to admit things will change but I do believe you will be proven correct.

Once the govt sets there sights on an agenda it will happen but just how long is the question.

Remember when govt said they will close Dollyworld, some argue Dollyworld in Surabaya would never close. Well, guess who won on that.

Now the govt has set its sights on Jakarta. Said will take 3 yrs. It may take more than 3 yrs but in the end the govt will always get their way.

[QUOTE=Sharka;1846799]Hate to admit things will change but I do believe you will be proven correct.

Once the govt sets there sights on an agenda it will happen but just how long is the question.

Remember when govt said they will close Dollyworld, some argue Dollyworld in Surabaya would never close. Well, guess who won on that.

Now the govt has set its sights on Jakarta. Said will take 3 yrs. It may take more than 3 yrs but in the end the govt will always get their way.[/QUOTE]Here is a timeline with links to various articles on the events leading to the closing of Kalijodo. [URL]http://jakartaglobe.beritasatu.com/kalijodo[/URL] (you will need to scroll down to see the timeline)..

Here is an article about how some of the sex workers from Kalijodo moved to another area but the authorities essentially intercepted and removed them. [URL]http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2016/03/01/kalijodo-girls-move-nearby-red-light-districts.html[/URL]

To my eyes this continues to look like a serious situation that could eventually affect many, if not most, of the venues we like to frequent. But I guess the Alexis Hotel will be an initial test of how far they want to go with this and whether they are also serious about closing down the mid- to upper-class places..

Got to agree with previous poster, The blok as we knew it is in its death throws, Its as if the same girls that were there ten years ago never left, the VIP room ladies will be arriving in wheelchairs soon and I guess we won't have to worry about about teethmarks there almost down to there gums. Mybar doesn't start until 2 am and even then its full of tattooed hacks and ambone's mafia. Theres the odd young dancer in DS that's worth shagging but that's about it. Thanks God I know how to work the dating sites, internet has always been my preferred option anyway. The Oktagon has got it nailed every chick I see coming out of there is smoking hot, no grannies in there, but Kareoke not my scene either, ahhh if only there was a time machine.

[QUOTE=RodneyRude;1846843]Got to agree with previous poster, The blok as we knew it is in its death throws, Its as if the same girls that were there ten years ago never left, the VIP room ladies will be arriving in wheelchairs soon and I guess we won't have to worry about about teethmarks there almost down to there gums. Mybar doesn't start until 2 am and even then its full of tattooed hacks and ambone's mafia. Theres the odd young dancer in DS that's worth shagging but that's about it. Thanks God I know how to work the dating sites, internet has always been my preferred option anyway. The Oktagon has got it nailed every chick I see coming out of there is smoking hot, no grannies in there, but Kareoke not my scene either, ahhh if only there was a time machine.[/QUOTE]I know you score most of your talent from dating sites and web apps. And there is good talent to be found there if you have the time to put in to chat them up. But there is something to be said about going to a bar, having a drink, and chatting the girls up live.

I have visited the blok a few times in the last few weeks and I was impressed. I was in Top Gun a week or so ago and there were about 10 girls who I would have considered taking home. I can't even remember the last time I saw that. Hell, I was in CJs on a ladies night and there weren't 10 girls I would have considered taking home. The girl I took home that night was 20 years old. If she was on the blok 10 years ago, it must have been as one of the little girl street beggars. There has been some very nice talent on the blok recently. And the band in TG was absolutely rockin'. I like the bands at TG way better than the ones at Bats or CJs. My Bar has some good talent too starting around 2 am. Yes, the majority of girls in there are nightmares, but they are invisible to me. There were over 5 girls in there the last time I was there that I would gladly have taken home. Other than Dees place and that absolutely worthless Obama place, I don't think the Blok is dead at all at the moment. I don't think the Blok is as good as it was in 2001, but it's not bad.

From the beginning I didn't plan this visit to be on a budget or like Cheap Charlie, but it turned out a bit like that.

Three years ago since my first visit, but most things are like I remember them. At arrivals I was qouted ridicously high prices (200-250 k) for taxis (unknown companies, no Bluebirds at T1 b). I walked a few meters over to departures, lots of taxis dropping off, but they are not allowed to pick up. So I wanted to try the Damri airport couch, I knew from last time that taking it is easy. Yes, no problem, a porter helped me with my luggage and found the right bus (destination Gambir, 40 k). The bus started at once and drove quickly to the city. Note that this may be quicker than waiting for a taxi. At Gambir there are always becacs (tuktuks) waiting. It was raining so it was difficult to negotiate, 40 k to my hotel, G7. This hotel is nearby Hotel Classic and only costs 336 k. A simple place, but very nice.