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[QUOTE=PoomPoom2017;1977978]First time in Rio and looking for someone to give me advice of Centaurus or 4 x 4. I'm from NYC and here for a week.
Thanks![/QUOTE]AVOID! Best advice I can give.
Centaurus is a clip joint where girls are on you flies on shit the moment you enter. There are usually 6/8 girls standing around you in the boite waiting for you to give someone a signal. Annoying.
Its also ridiculously overpriced. Close to 700 reais for 1 hour including room / girl. That could get me 3. 5 hours of fuck time in T31 with 4 different girls. Or 2 x duplas!.
4 X 4 is a horse stable for asses. Talent questionable now.
Treat Tier 1 termas with contempt and caution.
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[QUOTE=DMagiccs212;1977459]I have been to Africa (Ghana) a lot, because of my business. But never taking time to witness the action in Brazil. Rio and Sao Paulo to be specific.
I have slowly read over and over most of the reports in here. And I will say its an eye opener. A huge thanks to all the contributors.
I need advice on places to stay, apartment will do, that is close to the action and also safe. Has anyone used airbnb down there. I also know a little Spanish will it be of help out there??[/QUOTE]A little Spanish is better than nothing I Guess. Air BnB is fine-ID say stay in Copa near a metro stop and get a pay as you go metro card and go to centro everyday. Uruguyana and hit privees, termas and go home same way.
That way you got beach access too where you live.
I personally find it depressing living in centro / lapa etc compared to Copa, Apoador, Ipa especially when a metro ride is 15 minutes.
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Update
On Rob's advice I visited this girl at a privee.
[URL]http://espacoterapias.com.br/anuncios.php?terapeuta=stephanie[/URL]
Think as he pointed out the Privee itself is small and pokey, which is why I don't like these kind of places. When the girl is subpar the experience can be depressing. However, this girl is indeed worth the admission money. What you don't see on the photos is that she has a pear shaped figure and silicone tits. Still, she is good looking no doubt about it and presses all the right buttons. I popped two times in 30 minutes. Great BBBJ and sex. Even her sensual massage is worth a try.
Otherwise over the last few nights, I had a takeaway each from Mabs and Barbarella. Mabs does occasionally have some good looking women and advantage of this place is you don't have to pay an establishment to take her to a room. Anyway, the girl I took to a motel (300 real) was a blond chick. Good looking but mechanical fuck. Disappointing. Next night visited Barbarella. This time a lot more crowded. Took away a very hot dusky Latin / European type (350) and had a great hour and a half in a motel, but it cost 175 real to take her away and 100 for the motel. IE near terma prices! Might be getting back in touch with her later in my stay.
Finally just a word on my visit to Monte Carlo. All in for just one hour with a girl it cost 650 reals. And despite being a very good looking girl, she was mechanical. My view on these tier one termas is that they do have the best looking girls but when you end up with a girl who doesn't put the effort in, 650 reals is a lot. I also suspect that you tend to get more mechanical girls in these places.
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Same girls
[QUOTE=Sperto;1978595]Today I passed by Danys massagem in RB185. Some girls works both at Angels and Danys. The difference is that Danys has larger rooms with bathroom and Angels have cabinlike rooms with the bathroom in the corridor. Danys cost R$10 more. Angels have more girls...[/QUOTE]Interesting point Sperto. Some time ago I noticed that there were girls who seemed to be working two angles as well. Before Rio Centro closed there were some girls there who juggled between there and Eden. I found it odd but chalked it up to the hustle, later trying to figure out how they did it. Then it dawned on me that it's the same Owner and the girls cycle through. The good ole filial.
Some of these branches that I have picked up on are:
*Seven Beach (Ex Rio Spa) + Eden Spa. With Rio Spa subsequently moving to Copacabana before the Olympics some of the girls went with them to the Seven Beach. However inside were girls who were also working at Eden. Unfortunately Seven Beach closed within a few short weeks of being open due to complaints from the tenants of the connecting building (from what I was told). Such a shame that they shared that main gate to gain access from the sidewalk. One great thing I did notice per the site was that they stayed open to 3 am towards the latter weeks during Olympics. Imagine that, leaving Monte Carlo. Walk around the corner and still have a massage available for the night cap if needed.
*VIP Therapy + Delirio.
*Massagem Tijuca + Bel Pazer + Duda's + Emporio do Banho.
*Angel + Dany.
There's a part of me that wants say Green and Lokal Zen are the same owner as well. There are a couple more such common owner branches that I can't remember at the moment. But I can only imagine that there are dozens more that I haven't been able to connect to each other yet.
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Misinformation
Seems someone has an agenda.
First, the "I don't post because other members criticize me."
Second, attacking the most prolific poster on this forum for absolutely no reason.
Third, suggesting that most hotels are not girl friendly and you must stay in an apartment.
Fourth, stating that love motels are not good.
Did you ever think maybe other members criticize you because you are outright wrong?
Sperto has visited every state in Brazil and has taken the time to report and answer questions about those locations. When he asked a question on the open forum, I responded to him privately with a very detailed answer. That is the kind of respect he should and does command here. If the whiners went away, trust me, no one would miss you. When Sperto hangs it up, they will erect a monument to him in Centro.
Hotels are girl friendly. The standard advice is correct. Book a room for double occupancy. That said, I never have had a hotel, even the highest priced ones, not be guest friendly. It often depends on the guest and the girl you are with. Unfortunately, most people could use some lessons in how to treat hotel staff.
Have stayed at love motels all over Rio and beyond. Never had any issues. When Help was open I was a regular at Vanity. One time I met a girl at 7:30 AM on the beach and took her there without any money. I told both her and the manager I would be back at noon to settle up and neither batted an eye. This site can save you a few bucks as well as locate some options.
[URL]https://www.guiademoteis.com.br/rio-de-janeiro[/URL]
The question often comes up about Airbnb. I have rented apartments in Rio for family and friends without any issues. Keep in mind that hosts review guests and vice versa. Give your host a bad review and you get one too. So, the reviews tend to be overstated. What I look for is glowing reviews. John was extremely helpful and a great host. The apartment was better than expected. Not, John was a nice guy and the apartment was as described. I have rented on the Airbnb site literally around the world and never have had even a mediocre experience.
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[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;1978713]Centaurus is a clip joint where girls are on you flies on shit the moment you enter. There are usually 6/8 girls standing around you in the boite waiting for you to give someone a signal. Annoying. Its also ridiculously overpriced. Treat Tier 1 termas with contempt and caution.[/QUOTE]To call Centaurus (or any other Tier 1 termas) a "clip joint" is going over the top and just plain disingenuous. A clip joint is a place where they take your money and you get virtually nothing in return for it except for some overpriced drinks and maybe a few cheap feels. A place may be too expensive for somebody's budget, but that doesn't automatically make it a "clip joint" characterized by fraudulent activity meant to take somebody's money while offering little or nothing of value in return. That's what a clip joint does. We may have our own likes and dislikes (and budgets) for the way we prefer to monger, but we shouldn't let those preferences prevent us from offering objective evaluations of the mongering scene, wherever it may be. To refer to Tier 1 termas as "clip joints" is to promote a lie, which is a disservice to all seeking useful and valid information on the board. You may not like them. You may find them all too expensive. But that doesn't make them all "clip joints"!
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[QUOTE=Diegoff61;1978256]Not a fine but more so a small amount more than if you remained in the room alone. It has never been an issue if the hotel is girl-friendly. At check-in, simply ask for double occupancy. This way there would be no extra time at the counter for each encounter.
When you say "most love motels are not good. " this can create a negative feel or connotation to the experience. I have used such facilities in Copacabana, Lapa, Centro, and Niteroi and have never experienced any of the problems that you mentioned. I haven't experienced problems of any kind for that matter. If there are love motels that aren't comfortable and present a climate of unease and an interruption of the progress ("getting to know one another") then by all means, this would definitely be the place to share such specific information regarding those locations.[/QUOTE]I have been to Shalimar ([URL]http://shalimarmotel.com/[/URL]) water was very cold, Nosso hotel ([URL]http://www.nossohotel.com.br/[/URL]) air conditioning did not work very well, vanity hotel ([URL]http://www.hotelvanity.com.br/[/URL]) found some dirty sheets. I've been to a motel in the lido Copacabana staff very rude (this is my experience) we are all different.
Normal hotels are girl friendly only with registered visitors, it means if you pick a GP they won't let her in don't forget some hotels don't like prostitutes for normal hotels that are girl friendly you have to pay a fine if the girl is an unregistered visitor.
Apartments are the best option you can do what you want as if you are in your own home.
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[QUOTE=PoomPoom2017;1977978]First time in Rio and looking for someone to give me advice of Centaurus or 4 x 4. I'm from NYC and here for a week.
Thanks![/QUOTE]If you are in Rio for the first time, you have to tell yourself do I have time to waste?
Centaurus is OK if you don't mind price just tell yourself how much would I pay in the us if you are from there. Which service could I have? How hard is it to find a decent prostitute? You have to try once when you are in Rio don't forget we are all different, personally I prefer Cancun terma and mv30. You are in Brazil to enjoy as much as possible and save your time before going back home for work.
4 x 4 is good too, you can find many girls with different shapes personally in the past 4 x 4 was better.
Termas and clubs are safe, you just have to be careful not to be riped off like everywhere ex buy unnecessary drinks for the girls you won't fuck just because you don't feel comfortable with them or you don't like them physically or give unnecessary tips to the staff (ex just because you received a poor service from the staff or they did nothing for you) tips are not compulsory, when you go to termas or clubs you fuck for sure it is not illegal like the USA also clubs and termas are not scams like many countries there is only a difference between clubs and termas, price, quality, quantity, location and facility.
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[QUOTE=TheCane;1978788]To call Centaurus (or any other Tier 1 termas) a "clip joint" is going over the top and just plain disingenuous. A clip joint is a place where they take your money and you get virtually nothing in return for it except for some overpriced drinks and maybe a few cheap feels. A place may be too expensive for somebody's budget, but that doesn't automatically make it a "clip joint" characterized by fraudulent activity meant to take somebody's money while offering little or nothing of value in return. That's what a clip joint does. We may have our own likes and dislikes (and budgets) for the way we prefer to monger, but we shouldn't let those preferences prevent us from offering objective evaluations of the mongering scene, wherever it may be. To refer to Tier 1 termas as "clip joints" is to promote a lie, which is a disservice to all seeking useful and valid information on the board. You may not like them. You may find them all too expensive. But that doesn't make them all "clip joints"![/QUOTE]You are absolutely right. Centaurus is not a fully fledged "Clip Joint" in the Soho, London sense. It is however guilty of a clip joint practise in the sense that they tried to make you pay entry fee plus make you pay upfront for 40 minutes for a girl without SEEING her first-what if you don't find any you like?
Do you think they ever gave someone their money back?
Right. So I'm doing people a service pointing this out.
This has nothing to do with price. It has to do with unfair practises.
MC is not a clip joint-both MC and Solarium and 4 X 4 has seen way better days years ago talent-wise.
My opinion.
Cancun has seen better days talent-wise.
My opinion.
Tier 1 terma talent has seen better days.
My opinion.
Lower tier/clinicas/VM can be the source of at least equal or better talent for a fraction.
My opinion.
Quality in Rio has nothing to do with price and everything to do with geography and practicality for the girl.
My opinion.
tier 1 can definetely still attract a hottie but I found the level had declined sharply last few years in general.
My opinion.
But one man's gold is another man's trash.
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[QUOTE=Komo753;1978928]I have been to Shalimar ([URL]http://shalimarmotel.com/[/URL]) water was very cold, Nosso hotel ([URL]http://www.nossohotel.com.br/[/URL]) air conditioning did not work very well, vanity hotel ([URL]http://www.hotelvanity.com.br/[/URL]) found some dirty sheets. I've been to a motel in the lido Copacabana staff very rude (this is my experience) we are all different.
Normal hotels are girl friendly only with registered visitors, it means if you pick a GP they won't let her in don't forget some hotels don't like prostitutes for normal hotels that are girl friendly you have to pay a fine if the girl is an unregistered visitor.
Apartments are the best option you can do what you want as if you are in your own home.[/QUOTE]You've gone to the wrong ones. Vanity is trash bro.
Check Motel Panda, VIPs and all of Cartman's ones and Patmar's like even Malaga is decent too for a cheap price.
Perfectly fine.
GF Hotels check Best Western and IBIS.
Just check your guest in and out before checking in a new one.Max 2 adults in rooms.IBIS.
Best Western make a reservation for 2 and tell em your guest is coming later.
Once she has checked in I never needed to to anything.I had 5 girls in 8 days in Best Western Ipanema.
New Best Western one in Copa opened too.Right opposite the 1st metro stop in Copa..verde...on a silver platter!
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[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;1979106]You are absolutely right. Centaurus is not a fully fledged "Clip Joint" in the Soho, London sense. It is however guilty of a clip joint practise in the sense that they tried to make you pay entry fee plus make you pay upfront for 40 minutes for a girl without SEEING her first-what if you don't find any you like? Do you think they ever gave someone their money back? Right. So I'm doing people a service pointing this out.[/QUOTE]Yes, you're right about that particular practice, which does suck. But, you haven't told the full story, which is that you don't have to pay for a girl upfront upon entrance if you don't want to! I did that the very first time I went to Centaurus years ago because I didn't know any better. But after that, never again! All you have to do is say that you just want to pay the entrance fee because you don't know if you want to take a girl or not, and they will waive the payment for 40 minutes upfront. Like I said, I paid that one time and never again. Now that's the full story, and that's doing the most by the readership here because it doesn't leave something important out about that annoying practice at Centaurus and how to effectively deal with it. You don't need them to give you your money back. Just don't give it to them in the first place!
Other things about the place that I don't like are that they haven't invested in the facilities, and several years ago it was already looking run down. Tattered robes. Dingy rooms that have seen better days. And yes, the damn price for an hour has gotten to be too high! Typical Brazilian business thinking. When times are bad, raise prices versus lower them or offering other cost-saving incentives to get people to patronize the business. At least the last time I was there, they had stopped the annoying practice of assigning a girl to "help" you change. And then you need to work to dump the girl afterwards because she hits you up for a session, but you have zero interest in her! But still, in no way do I believe it's fair to refer to the place as a clip joint. If Centaurus was a clip joint, then I would never have given them my business over the years. I don't do "clip joints", and I know one when I see one.
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Another Recommendation
[QUOTE=IAmYourFather5;1978740]On Rob's advice I visited this girl at a privee.
[URL]http://espacoterapias.com.br/anuncios.php?terapeuta=stephanie[/URL]
Think as he pointed out the Privee itself is small and pokey, which is why I don't like these kind of places. When the girl is subpar the experience can be depressing. However, this girl is indeed worth the admission money. What you don't see on the photos is that she has a pear shaped figure and silicone tits. Still, she is good looking no doubt about it and presses all the right buttons. I popped two times in 30 minutes. Great BBBJ and sex. Even her sensual massage is worth a try.
Disappointing. Next night visited Barbarella. This time a lot more crowded. Took away a very hot dusky Latin / European type (350) and had a great hour and a half in a motel, but it cost 175 real to take her away and 100 for the motel. IE near terma prices! Might be getting back in touch with her later in my stay.[/QUOTE]Glad you liked her. I probably should have stated that she is a big girl. That is the way I like them.
Another place you should try is Vital Space Therapies. Av Pres VargaS. If possible get the manager Maira, she is fantastic. I did Gisele Who is a little older but a great performer.
[URL]http://espacoterapias.com.br/anuncios.php?terapeuta=gisele[/URL]
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[QUOTE=PoomPoom2017;1977978]First time in Rio and looking for someone to give me advice of Centaurus or 4 x 4. I'm from NYC and here for a week.
Thanks![/QUOTE]Hi,
If you need help in Rio you can PM me.
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Cartago perto Norte shopping.
The first interview questions are always, where do you live? Do you have kids? Because I want youngest girls no kids for pernoite logistics. Best girls live in zona Norte, all know Norte shopping, bang them in cartago while wearing Vasco and you're a carioca and will get better pricing. Cartago is where they all start. The semi pro network can be accessed there more easily than overpriced zona sul.
[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;1979109]You've gone to the wrong ones.
Vanity is trash bro.
Check Motel Panda, VIPs and all of Cartman's ones and Patmar's like even Malaga is decent too for a cheap price.
Perfectly fine.
GF Hotels check Best Western and IBIS.
Just check your guest in and out before checking in a new one.Max 2 adults in rooms.IBIS.
Best Western make a reservation for 2 and tell em your guest is coming later.
Once she has checked in I never needed to to anything.I had 5 girls in 8 days in Best Western Ipanema.
New Best Western one in Copa opened too.Right opposite the 1st metro stop in Copa..verde...on a silver platter![/QUOTE]
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I passed by Stellas today. Three naked girls were in the waiting room. To my surprise the legendary Kelly was available. The choice couldn't have been easier. Kelly is a legend in Gpguia. She's 30 years now and I had her every year since she started 12 years ago. A nice touch that she remembered my name. It's not unusual with a bunch of guys waiting for Kelly in the waiting room as she's extremely popular and I know many of you guys have sessioned with Kelly.
Kelly, morena clara, 30 years, beautiful, very tall, fit, long strong legs, large tits (I normally dislike silicon tits, but Kellys tits feels quite real) and a big wellshaped round ass. We got their best cabin which is a small cabin, lousy AC and with dirty sheets. No shower possibilities for the clients, but you can use the toilet which today even had a soap. Kellys skills are outstanding, better than any pornstar, her BJ is nota 10, very active in all positions, offered anal (which I declined) and finished with BBBJCIM. The cost was R$50. A shame they no longer have the promoção 2 girls for R$60.
Kelly is a hardcore professional, but a sweet one. She want satisfied customers and for sure knows how to reach that goal. Better not think of how many d*cks she takes every day. It was propably not very smart of me to suck on her nipples as the girls at this place doesn't always shower between each client. This is a fast food joint, no time for chit-chat, simple cabins, the AC is shitty, the walls doesn't reach the ceiling so you hear the others doing their thing, you don't want to lie down on the sheets and you'll leave the place sweaty as a pig. Not a big problem today as I headed straight to the beach.
Side-note: The beaches are very crowded. Lots of rats are coming from Zona Norte and some minor arrastões have occurred. Nothing is new, same procedure as always. Just be cautious.