Bangkok Massage Parlors - Except TULIP and ANNIES!

[QUOTE=Bkkdog;2175121] I'm a little different than you I think. I don't like to waste time with a lot of back and forth to ruin the mood or chemistry. I kinda know what number most of the ladies will need to do what I want and that's the first and only number I offer.

As for my tip, it was never discussed and I just handed it over for her good service. YMMV of course.[/QUOTE]Oh, not at all. I am very much like you in that way. There is practically no back and forth on those kind of things. If you have read any of my sample "negotiation" exchanges here, they don't even look like what one might consider a negotiation and I only use that word because I am replying to someone else who used it in a post question or because it is the closest word that fits and can be searched for on these sites.

The vast majority of times, unless I have reason to suspect there might be an issue with heavy bush hair a'growin' down there, my "negotiation" with P4P girls in Thailand comes down to a single question. And it isn't even about the kind of true GFE we are alluding to here. It is whether or not the girl will provide a genuine CIM finish to a BBBJ. That's it. If her response is negative, I will not be choosing her. Only if SHE then follows up with a question like, "Why? Don't you like boom-boom?", will I then mention that I do indeed like boom-boom but I will not be able to do it and finish wearing a condom and any other related info. Then it is up to the girl to figure out if she is willing to offer an acceptable solution to this problem or not.

If her response is clearly positive to providing a genuine CIM finish then she is definitely a candidate for me to choose and, like you, nature can and often does take its course in the room and all plans about finishing with a BBBJ+CIM rather than with, say, BBFS/true GFE are gone.

However, having said that, here is where the exception to those vast majority of times comes in; when I am dealing with a venue type for which my positive results for EITHER of those outcomes, BBBJ+CIM or BBFS, have been so horribly and consistently bad I really have no choice but to cover damn near every detail before I am willing to commit even 500 baht to another gamble on it, much less 3,000+ baht.

That is where massage shops like Addict and the others in that area come in. My positive results for getting it my way for a reasonable price is great doing it in the more laid back way you and I prefer for almost every type of venue and meet ups except those kinds of shops. For those kinds of shops, my positive results are virtually non existent after dozens of attempts at being laid back and casual about it.

So when I saw what looked to me like you were reporting having employed a simple upfront "negotiation" for an additional 1,000 baht tip in order to achieve a true GFE with an Addict girl (i. e., "Could I have avoided the tip? Sure of course, but the true GFE experience may not have been delivered."), that gave me a glimmer of hope that such a method might tempt me to give one of those places a try again, for the umpteenth time. LOL.

[QUOTE=*****man;2172093].... But it's probably better to leave your translation app in your pocket as the translation it's giving is probably complete garbage. Try translating some Thai Facebook posts with the auto translator and see what nonsense comes out.

Blow job is just given a literal word for word translation which means absolutely nothing in Thai.[/QUOTE]Not every translation app is equally good. And you can find one that works well for speaking with P4P ladies.

I've just tried an android app from Google Play store called Microsoft Translator. You can find it at the link below:

[URL]https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.microsoft.translator&hl=en[/URL]

This app can actually translate profanities. But it's not done by default. You need to go into the settings and enable translation of profanities there.

I know two languages well. And I've tested it to see how good the translation is. I found that it's no good at translating slang words and expressions, such as a "blowjob" for example. It gives you total nonsense indeed. But if you say, "Suck cock", or "Suck tits", or "Perform cunnilingus", then the translation is perfect.

Basically, you need to change the way you say it to make the translation work. Don't use slang words, and use phrases, rather than single words.

This app translates well for non-sexual language. And you can even download the Thai language for offline translation for the times when you don't have an Internet connection.

Of course, it has some limitations. The word 'Pussy' for example is a slang word that has non-sexual meaning too. And there isn't really any other simple word that you can use. That's why I had to say "Perform cunnilingus" to make it translate correctly. Everything else I said using the word "Pussy" didn't work.

I've also tried using this app to translate names for sex positions. It translated correctly "Doggy sex position" and "Missionary sex position", but it had a lot of trouble translating "Cowgirl sex position". I had to say "Woman on top sex position" to get the correct translation.

The only thing about these translations is that when you don't know the other language, then you have no idea how well the translation worked. It's a hit and a miss kind of thing.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2175238]Oh, not at all. I am very much like you in that way. There is practically no back and forth on those kind of things. If you have read any of my sample "negotiation" exchanges here, they don't even look like what one might consider a negotiation and I only use that word because I am replying to someone else who used it in a post question or because it is the closest word that fits and can be searched for on these sites.

The vast majority of times, unless I have reason to suspect there might be an issue with heavy bush hair a'growin' down there, my "negotiation" with P4P girls in Thailand comes down to a single question. And it isn't even about the kind of true GFE we are alluding to here. It is whether or not the girl will provide a genuine CIM finish to a BBBJ. That's it. If her response is negative, I will not be choosing her. Only if SHE then follows up with a question like, "Why? Don't you like boom-boom?", will I then mention that I do indeed like boom-boom but I will not be able to do it and finish wearing a condom and any other related info. Then it is up to the girl to figure out if she is willing to offer an acceptable solution to this problem or not..[/QUOTE]I don't know what to tell you other than I have received a true GFE in a sense with little or no extra effort at Addict, Mango, club 102, Snow White, Tulip, Annie's in the past, Som's Heaven, Lolitasssssssssss, Boss massage, be & be just today, Cherries, and Wood Bar. Going back to the tip, that is just a general comment for the people that wonder why I leave tips. It's because a repeat will ensure a repeat GFE. Today at B & B however, I forgot to leave a tip. Seriously, the ladies in their are all spinners!

[QUOTE=Bkkdog;2175323]I don't know what to tell you other than I have received a true GFE in a sense with little or no extra effort at Addict, Mango, club 102, Snow White, Tulip, Annie's in the past, Som's Heaven, Lolitasssssssssss, Boss massage, be & be just today, Cherries, and Wood Bar. Going back to the tip, that is just a general commment for the people that wonder why I leave tips. It's becaause a repeat will ensure a repeat GFE. Today at B & B however, I forgot to leave a tip. Seriously, the ladies in their are all spinners![/QUOTE]If you want to leave a tip then all well and good but I've never once had a situation where I got a GFE first time, didn't leave a tip and then didn't get one second time. Is that what you fear will happen?

As for B&B, I've never tried the place because of their reputation for poor service. Have things improved there? They look like a fairly average bunch every time I walk past.

[QUOTE=Bkkdog;2175323]I don't know what to tell you other than I have received a true GFE in a sense with little or no extra effort at Addict, Mango, club 102, Snow White, Tulip, Annie's in the past, Som's Heaven, Lolitasssssssssss, Boss massage, be & be just today, Cherries, and Wood Bar. Going back to the tip, that is just a general commment for the people that wonder why I leave tips. It's becaause a repeat will ensure a repeat GFE. Today at B & B however, I forgot to leave a tip. Seriously, the ladies in their are all spinners![/QUOTE]Among that group of venues, the only ones where I have not gotten a true GFE would be Addict, Mango, Snow White, Tulip, Boss massage and B & B.

Never tried Cherries. Also never tried Club 102 or Annies but had been with Annies and Club 102 girls before they started working there and had no problem getting a true GFE of the kind we are talking about with those girls.

In none of those shops on my "no true GFE" list was BBFS anywhere in sight by my merely showing up and being the same lovely guy that manages to get there most of the time in other encounters without having to propose a seriously meaningful additional tip beforehand. Also in most of them the demeanor of the girl was so godawful mechanical and non erotic, even the possibility of a BBBJ finishing with something close to a CIM was hopeless and I just called it off.

That is where I had a glimmer of hope that maybe dangling an additional 1,000 baht upfront might be the trick that snaps the girls in those particular shops out of their robotic state where my natural charm and irresistable good looks seems only to drive them deeper into that state.

But as of yet I guess there are no reports of such an upfront offer working or mattering much.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2175390]Among that group of venues, the only ones where I have not gotten a true GFE would be Addict, Mango, Snow White, Tulip, Boss massage and B & B...[/QUOTE]Just a comment, from my experience GFE has always been up to the girl, and never dependent on the club / venue, at least for me. Granted, some venues are known to have more GFE girls than others. But, I have learned through the years to get GFE by working on the provider during the session.

I just got back last night from a mongering trip to Colombia and Sao Paulo, Brazil. I met a chick in Sao Paulo, who initially appeared nasty and bitchy, but had the goods. I went along with that and in no time, made her laugh. It was smooth sailing from there.

[QUOTE=*****man;2175345]If you want to leave a tip then all well and good but I've never once had a situation where I got a GFE first time, didn't leave a tip and then didn't get one second time.[/QUOTE]Same here. And I can only think of one P4P girl in hundreds who engaged in BBFS/true GFE with me but changed her mind and wouldn't do it in a subsequent session, regardless of generous tip or not. She was a go-go dancer in Sharks on Soi Cowboy when she did engage in it with me but stopped after she started working at Baccara. LOL.

I have no idea if the change in venue had anything to do with it. All I remember is when she informed me she wasn't doing that with me or any customers anymore, I just said Mai Pen Rai (no problem) and didn't barfine her again.

[QUOTE=Lefeu;2175402]Just a comment, from my experience GFE has always been up to the girl, and never dependent on the club / venue, at least for me. Granted, some venues are known to have more GFE girls than others. But, I have learned through the years to get GFE by working on the provider during the session.

I just got back last night from a mongering trip to Colombia and Sao Paulo, Brazil. I met a chick in Sao Paulo, who initially appeared nasty and bitchy, but had the goods. I went along with that and in no time, made her laugh. It was smooth sailing from there.[/QUOTE]Well, Bkkdog and I have perhaps been a little too cryptic here in mostly using the code phrase "true GFE" and not just "GFE" to refer to BBFS (although I am the only one who did spell it out as BBFS here and there, so who knows if others meant it that way or not). And that most assuredly is not what most posters here mean when they refer to a GFE they got with this or that P4P lady.

So are you talking about the same kind if "true GFE" I have been talking about here? Or just "GFE", which is generally accepted as something significantly different?

What is full name or web page?

[QUOTE=Lefeu;2175402]Just a comment, from my experience GFE has always been up to the girl, and never dependent on the club / venue, at least for me. Granted, some venues are known to have more GFE girls than others. But, I have learned through the years to get GFE by working on the provider during the session.

I just got back last night from a mongering trip to Colombia and Sao Paulo, Brazil. I met a chick in Sao Paulo, who initially appeared nasty and bitchy, but had the goods. I went along with that and in no time, made her laugh. It was smooth sailing from there.[/QUOTE]

Booked Candy from SW yesterday at 3. 30 pm for 1. 30 h. Damage is the usual 2. 100 Bath.

There's not much that hasn't been said already. Good services, willing to please you and overall good fun. She's petite and it's true that she barely have tits and she has some baby damage but she has a very pretty face. Not sure that she does anal as I'm not into it. I'm sure it has been reported that she does or not. As all girls in SW you can have multiple pops.

Addict told me that Mali will be back next week. Of course you want to call them before you go.

[QUOTE=*****man;2159496]Latest update on Mali is that she'll be back next month. I think she might have stopped working there for good though. The best girls tend not to hang around soi 24 for long.

Any other suggestions for a young, slim, baby-free girl?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Lefeu;2175402]Just a comment, from my experience GFE has always been up to the girl, and never dependent on the club / venue, at least for me. Granted, some venues are known to have more GFE girls than others. But, I have learned through the years to get GFE by working on the provider during the session.

I just got back last night from a mongering trip to Colombia and Sao Paulo, Brazil. I met a chick in Sao Paulo, who initially appeared nasty and bitchy, but had the goods. I went along with that and in no time, made her laugh. It was smooth sailing from there.[/QUOTE]I agree with your observation. This is something I've learned from my experience too.

The other side of GFE is BFE (BoyFriend Experience). You need to treat the lady like she is your girlfriend. Or else, it doesn't work.

A relationship is a two-way-street. Both sides define what it is. But you can take the lead in the relationship and get the lady to follow you.

When you start behaving like you are the lady's boyfriend, then it's only natural for her to respond to you like she is your girlfriend. It's the default response that happens automatically, unless the lady thinks about it consciously and decides not to follow your lead.

This kind of thing doesn't work well with ordinary strangers, who don't have any relationship with you at all. You can't just approach a woman and start treating her like she is your girlfriend. She'll probably call the police on you, or something like that.

But when the lady is ready to get intimate with you, then she is totally open to the BoyFriend Experience from you. And it's actually hard for her not to treat you as her boyfriend, when you hug her, show her some affection, and speak nicely with her.

[QUOTE=TConor;2175597]What is full name or web page?[/QUOTE]B&B Entertainment Massage is their full name and they used to have a website but for some reasons they don't use it anymore. Try their Facebook [URL]https://www.facebook.com/bbentertainmentmassage/[/URL].

[QUOTE=Dan7373;2175688]

The other side of GFE is BFE (BoyFriend Experience). You need to treat the lady like she is your girlfriend. [/QUOTE]Treat them mean, keep them keen?

Hello guys,

After 6 months in Thailand, I am about to leave. Had a regular really nice girl from Philippines so I did not do much else than enjoy her company.

But since I am going to leave, there is something I absolutely want to do before leaving and it's a good Soapy Massage. I have been convinced by the quality of the website and the good reviews (I believe) of Bangkok Passion Massage. I also really like that all prices are fixed there, no matter which girl you pick.

Questions:

[URL]http://bangkokpassionmassage.com/masseuses/[/URL]

Do you recommend me any girl in particular? I understand I can book one of them for a specific moment of the working day / evening and then enjoy her services.

I do prefer the quality of the service over the beauty of the girl since I want HJ and not full service at the end. Names that I can check in the website would be appreciated.