Pattaya Reports

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The Office: Ugly girls. The blessing was that the place was a little bigger but did not cram an extra row of seating so the seats were farther away from the stage, sparing one some of the horror. Almost immediately I got approached by two dancers who were sub-par even for that establishment. I took a few gulps of my water, stuck a bill in the check-bin and fled.

[/QUOTE]That's a shame. I scored big at The Office back in July 2013 and ever since I've been looking forward to heading back. Looks like I'll have to find a new favorite when I return this summer. Thanks for your report.

[QUOTE=Nefarious;1699433]Looks like I'll have to find a new favorite when I return this summer.[/QUOTE]As always, YMMV. Nice thing about the bars being packed right next door to each other: You can easily step in and take a look.

Come to think of it it happened to me once at Nana and once in Pattaya a couple years ago. My radar went up and I came out and boldly asked in both instances are you a Ladyboy or are you a lady. Poor and stupid framework of a question I realize now, but both times they said I am a lady. And after talking with them a little my gut told me to move on and I did. Not positive but I think both were not real females. The effort of deception is so crazy that you have to wonder about robbery or worse. Moral of the story is I guess you can never be sure. When you don't feel comfortable, move on.

[QUOTE=SaltyPete;1699351]I agree. In January, I spoke to a pretty bar girl in Nana Plaza concerning the gogo staff of a club on the second floor; I think it was called Straps? I saw a lot of big girls there and asked if it was a Ladyboy bar. She said, "No! No Ladyboy there!" I asked again later, after having another look at the "girls" smoking outside the bar, "Are you sure". She said "No Ladyboy". But I wasn't asking the right question, so I asked her if they once had dicks, and she said yes. Apparently to some people, a post-op ladyboy is no longer a ladyboy.

I usually go for females that look more like girls than ladies. A ladyboy can look like a lady with a little (or a lot) of assistance. But it is very hard for a ladyboy to look girl-ish.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Nefarious;1699433]That's a shame. I scored big at The Office back in July 2013 and ever since I've been looking forward to heading back. Looks like I'll have to find a new favorite when I return this summer. Thanks for your report.[/QUOTE]Then again, if you like the layout and vibe of a place, I still might drop into there.

Reason being. With the ever changing staff of these places, can never be sure what you will find in that mysterious box of chocolates lol !!

[QUOTE=MilesToGo;1699526]Then again, if you like the layout and vibe of a place, I still might drop into there.

Reason being. With the ever changing staff of these places, can never be sure what you will find in that mysterious box of chocolates lol !![/QUOTE]Haha, reminds of a story a punter told me sometime back that he found a girl (and had BF'ed her), cute as a button, who was the only girl working in a LB bar on soi 6, she didn't last too long there, we went to check up on her and found that the bar was back to being all LB, bad tidings.

[QUOTE=Mogwai;1699226]I think a lot of us would like to avoid that question because it can be quite embarassing if she's a real lady. So that's one reason for all this talk on this subject.[/QUOTE]Actually, not as embarrassing as you think. I asked that question many times in Pattaya / Bangkok / Phuket, and the ladies had no problem saying yes. They often laugh about it as well. The lady boys, OTOH, frown when asked that question, and would not answer it directly.

[QUOTE=Lefeu;1699613]Actually, not as embarrassing as you think. I asked that question many times in Pattaya / Bangkok / Phuket, and the ladies had no problem saying yes. They often laugh about it as well. The lady boys, OTOH, frown when asked that question, and would not answer it directly.[/QUOTE]I don't really think its that tough to tell. But before, when I was unsure, I used to use the line: "You are so pretty you must be a lady boy. " to check. It always got a laugh as many of them do really believe that LBs are prettier than real women.

[QUOTE=SaltyPete;1699351]I agree. In January, I spoke to a pretty bar girl in Nana Plaza concerning the gogo staff of a club on the second floor; I think it was called Straps? I saw a lot of big girls there and asked if it was a Ladyboy bar. She said, "No! No Ladyboy there!" I asked again later, after having another look at the "girls" smoking outside the bar, "Are you sure". She said "No Ladyboy". But I wasn't asking the right question, so I asked her if they once had dicks, and she said yes. Apparently to some people, a post-op ladyboy is no longer a ladyboy.

I usually go for females that look more like girls than ladies. A ladyboy can look like a lady with a little (or a lot) of assistance. But it is very hard for a ladyboy to look girl-ish.[/QUOTE]I realize this is the pattaya thread but for therefore my understanding is that straps in nana plaza is 100% post-op.

Please correct me if I'm wrong. You can readily, and politely, ask a 'girl' to see her ID. It clearly gives the title in English. There is a lobby in Thailand to allow 'post op' transsexuals to change their ID card to reflect their.

New status as ' Miss' but currently, I believe, that the ID card, provided it's genuine and that's another story, gives the birth gender. I suggest you ask to see the ID, often your hotel will insist anyway, and better get any.

Confusion / embarrassment out of the way before you get back to your accommodation. You can always bullshit about wanting to check the age which is also clearly displayed using both a Thai and western calendar.

Hope this helps.

Pedro

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[QUOTE=PedroT97;1699826]Please correct me if I'm wrong. You can readily, and politely, ask a 'girl' to see her ID.[/QUOTE]One of the major industries in Thailand is fakes of all sorts. I've seen some girls' ID's. They are about a generation behind the higher tech ones with holograms, etc.

As Mr. E mentioned a few days ago, probably every working LB has a fake.

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Confusion / embarrassment out of the way before you get back to your accommodation. You can always bullshit about wanting to check the age which is also clearly displayed using both a Thai and western calendar.

[/QUOTE]Sometimes the reception staff is also very helpful. At Inn House, the night reception guy is very alert, I have seen him point out to punters that the girl he is taking to the room is actually a LB and if the guy says he is aware, the reception goes on to collect the ID. It can be looked upon as a little invasive, but the guy is doing his job and helping out the tourists by identifying the LBs. The reception guy is thai so he doesn't care about offending the LB, he calls it the way he sees it.

[QUOTE=ActionOriented;1699949]Sometimes the reception staff is also very helpful. At Inn House, the night reception guy is very alert, I have seen him point out to punters that the girl he is taking to the room is actually a LB and if the guy says he is aware, the reception goes on to collect the ID. It can be looked upon as a little invasive, but the guy is doing his job and helping out the tourists by identifying the LBs. The reception guy is thai so he doesn't care about offending the LB, he calls it the way he sees it.[/QUOTE]AO just gave the best advice ever. I'm new to the international form but not to Thailand or US site. Every single time I visited Thailand I've always stayed at a hotel where the staff will protect you as a last line of defense. From the door guy to the front desk I just simply asked them to please please give me a signal if the woman I think I have is actually a LB. Last year that last line of defense came in handy, yup, the front desk looked at the ID card and said Mr Hurt you are not allowed to have guest unless you pay extra, I knew since I've checked in many guest before her that something wasn't right. Later me and the front desk crew laughed and I gave them all a nice tip. So my advice is the same as AOs advice. Use your resources to your advantage.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1698970]Chick hit me up online when I was about to leave the house. I decided that I would make a quick pit stop to see her before picking up my friend because she lived close by. I get there and meet her and she tells me she works at a bar on Second Road and has to work from 6 pm to 1 am. I called my friend and told him that I would be there in 5 minutes.

As I headed for the door she said I thought you wanted to fuck. I said I always want to fuck, but how much is it going to cost me? She said 1000 baht. I said no, not long time, just short time. She said well you can fuck me once now then again when I finish work. I said no. One short time now is good for me. She said well how much you give me? I said 500. She said okay then went to the bathroom to freshen up. I called my buddy and told him forget what I just said. I just fell into some pussy so it will take me a little longer to get there. That definitely will not be my last session with her![/QUOTE]You Lucky man.

I arrived in Bangkok at around midnight after a 30 hour trip from Toronto with stops in Chicago and Narita. When the flight was booked in early January, one Canadian dollar fetched 28.34 Baht. By the time I arrived, that same Canadian dollar fetched only 25.88 Baht, an 11% drop in purchasing power. I planned to take a bus to Pattaya in the early morning, I. E. , one of the ones that runs from the airport and drops you at your hotel. They are cheap. Just over 200 Baht. But they don't start running until around 8 o'clock, so I decided to sleep at the Bangkok airport. Ear plugs and a small pillow did the trick. I hadn't booked a hotel in advance, but I had done my homework and knew that I wanted to stay the first few nights on Soi 6 so I had the driver drop me at Soi 6 and Second Road and I made my way toward the beach, checking guest houses along the way until I found one I liked. I chose Lagune at a cost of 700 Baht. By 1 o'clock in the afternoon I was pretty much settled and ready to go out and explore. The offerings on Soi 6 at that time of day didn't appeal to me so I headed for Beach Road. Without much trouble, I found and fucked a nice looking Beach Road girl named Nada twice (#1. 1 and 1. 2) for 1,000 Baht. Later in the day and that evening, I scouted out Soi 1, 2 and 3 (where not much was happening) and the nearby mall (where I couldn't find the place where the freelancers were supposed to hang out), so I eventually found myself at some beer bars along Second Road not far from Soi 6 and was hit on by a small beer bar girl. After chatting a while, we agreed on "short time" for 800 Baht. Then I paid the bar fine, took her back to my room, had her naked but in the end I didn't fuck her. She was too pushy. She would not be the only one like that either. After about 20 minutes, I sent her away with 300 Baht and called it a night.

Day 2 was a wasted day. I had signed up to Thai Friendly and had been in touch with a number of women, one of whom I arranged to meet. She was older than what I was really looking for, but she seemed nice. Certainly her Thai Friendly picture showed much promise. Well, gauzy pictures can deceive. In real life, she was a real disappointment: about 15 pounds overweight, with bad skin. What was more, her English was so limited that she brought along her 18 year old daughter to help her communicate. Her daughter's English was not much better than her mother's so the encounter was filled with cordial and well-meaning smiles but it went on much, much, much too long, and of course it was entirely chaste. They came from Sriracha, about 20 minutes by car from Pattaya. And I was very glad when their car drove away. Over the next few weeks, I would become quite adept (or maybe just exceptionally lucky) at salvaging nights that went astray like this one had, but I had not yet acquired that aptitude and so for me it was an early and unsatisfying end to my second day in Pattaya.