Jakarta

I've returned and found Classic much the same. Same prices more or less, similar quality, similar service levels which can vary from amazing to forgettable. Level 5 is finished though I always preferred having a few beers at level 5 then making my way to level 2.

At Pang-Jay Starmoon has had the fishbowl renovated and now much better and more open. I went there and Grand MTR.

For maximum value, take the KRL to Sawah Besar only 3 k rupiah, combine visit to Classic with steak at Jonisteak, then catch KRL to Jayakarta station (3 k rupiah again) then walk to Pang-Jay. Cheap night out.

Gents -.

Does any members have recent expereince to share about seeking? I am noticing that ladies are charging more for short-term PPM these days. Do you have any refefences points.

I have used Seeking in Jakarta in the past and had great expereinces. Before, most were charging 2-3 M for a 1-2 hour short term visit at my hotel. Some were free.

Now, women are quoting 4-5 M. Inflation? Just to note, I am a younger looking in mid-30's.

I am targeting for the slim, attractive girls in late 20's. Not girls that is 19-22 years old.

Not the actress--models--IG on this site that can easily go for 8-12 M with shady politicians or trip to Singapore or Dubai.

Welcome your inputs. I am sure its cheaper on Tinder. But for some reasons I like seeking platform. Very direct to point.

For those of you new to seeking, check out my previous posts on my expereinces with seeking in past 1-2 years.

Welcome your discussions.

[QUOTE=Gonz0;2839590]According to this article, these organ traders are taking advantage of poor people, who are desperate and vulnerable. These Indonesians agreed to sell one of their kidneys for 135 million rupiah, because they had financial trouble and needed the money.

The organ traders only took kidneys from people who agreed to sell them. Representatives of the organ traders contacted these people in Indonesia. They were not tourists on holiday in Cambodia.

The article did not have any information about any risk to tourists visiting Cambodia.[/QUOTE]

Human trafficking in Indonesia is rather complicated. Some of these trafficked people have been lured, promised to be given good jobs in Thailand for the skills they have such as ITs, customer services, etc. They are transported from Indonesia using unconventional route to avoid detection. They were first transported to Thailand and then using land route to be transported further to either Cambodia or Myanmar.

Certainly the risk for tourists is small. But keep mind that this human organ trading is "A STATE SPONSORED" run by military juntas. It is not an ordinary criminal gang. The victim's kidneys are removed from a STATE OWNED hospital. Cambodia is a signatory of the World Health Assembly Resolution on Organ Trafficking and Transplant Tourism, which was adopted in 2008. The resolution prohibits the sale or purchase of human organs, as well as the advertising or solicitation of organ donors for commercial purposes. It also calls on countries to take measures to prevent and combat human organ trading. But who is the law in Cambodia, if there is any rather than Hun Sen. You might be interesting in finding out about Hun Sen family connection to Human organ trading in Cambodia.

Just hoping as a tourist you do not fall into the trap for a petty crime that will see you to get a jailed sentence, giving a reason for the evil people who are after huge profit to profit from you.

To Hilo and veterans in the Jakarta thread.

[QUOTE=Menteng;2840429]To Hilo and veterans in the Jakarta thread.[/QUOTE]On the far left, the beautiful and enigmatic Prapti (pretty by name and pretty by nature). I was convinced she would marry one of the thousands of bules (including me) who lusted after her but apparently she just went back to her kampung and settled down with a local lad, what a waste. And of course on the right, sweet motherly Fitri, who you had a big crush on as I recall.

All gone now, Dee's Place has changed hands, it was a graveyard the last time I visited, no sexy dancers, no VIP room for nefarious pleasure.

I think I have posted these before. Probably only you and Smoothy (where's he now?) could name them.

[QUOTE=Hilo77;2840762]I think I have posted these before. Probably only you and Smoothy (where's he now?) could name them.[/QUOTE]
Thanks to you and Menteng for posting those photos.

Ah, the good old days. Still remember going to "D's Place" with Menteng back in 2005, ended up bringing a sweet young Javanese girl back to my hotel (Mandarin Oriental). In the morning she pulled a long sleeve top out of her bag, put it on over her more sexy top, and told me she was going directly to her workplace (some shop in one of the malls), so my walk with her through the lobby (the "walk of shame") to put her in a taxi was not too bad.

I last saw Smoothy in March 2018 when he and I had a great time at one of the bars in Pang-Jay, I think it was the New Sari Ayu Club. We both chose girls from the fishbowl and relaxed with a drink before heading upstairs (separately). Still remember walking up the stairs behind my girl who was tottering on these enormous heels.

It's a shame to read that many of these places have faded away.

Hey guys I hope you all doing great!

I'll visit Jakarta for few days this month, so far I planned to go to classic and travel.

I read the last 20 pages and I was wondering if the train track place is really worth to visit?

Also for classic hotel I saw floor 2 and 5 , other floors not worth to visit?

And finally do I need to know some bahasa? For preferences and no baby things?

Thanks to all of you that posted on this forum, it's really helpful, I'll be sure to post my report at the end of my trip! .

[QUOTE=Copics;2840961]Hey guys I hope you all doing great!

I'll visit Jakarta for few days this month, so far I planned to go to classic and travel.

I read the last 20 pages and I was wondering if the train track place is really worth to visit?

Also for classic hotel I saw floor 2 and 5 , other floors not worth to visit?

And finally do I need to know some bahasa? For preferences and no baby things?

Thanks to all of you that posted on this forum, it's really helpful, I'll be sure to post my report at the end of my trip! .[/QUOTE]The train tracks aren't worth a visit. Maybe out of curiosity is all.

Level 5 seems permanently shut now at Classic, just level 2 and the club (or whatever it is called) to the right at the main entrance seem to be open.

Hi mongers,

I have enjoyed RTFF the last 20-25 pages and picked up a lot of good insight. Thanks to all who contribute. I will do my bit after my long-awaited trip in end Sep.

I am already thinking the following -.

1. How is the scene at BATS at the moment and compared with CJs. Do you find 8-10's or generally more experienced but older FLs? I will then decide whether to stay in Shangri-la or Mulia?

2. Are there good credible escort agency options,? I have already noted to consider Badoo, Tinder gold and Seeking Arrangement.

Thanks.

Vik.

[QUOTE=VikPunter;2841154]Hi mongers,

I have enjoyed RTFF the last 20-25 pages and picked up a lot of good insight. Thanks to all who contribute. I will do my bit after my long-awaited trip in end Sep.

I am already thinking the following -.

1. How is the scene at BATS at the moment and compared with CJs. Do you find 8-10's or generally more experienced but older FLs? I will then decide whether to stay in Shangri-la or Mulia?

2. Are there good credible escort agency options,? I have already noted to consider Badoo, Tinder gold and Seeking Arrangement.

Thanks.

Vik.[/QUOTE]If I had to choose between the two I would stay at the Shangri-la. My company used the Mulia as the corporate hotel but I spent most of my time in BATS. CJ's was a lot darker, harder to see the selection, and BATS just had a better vibe. Was last in Jakarta last October and BATS was busy, so I suspect it has only got busier as the world has settled down. Both of them tended to be full of experienced FL. Was due to be there next week and was going to stay in the Shangri-la, but trip pushed to October.

[QUOTE=GiovanniVolo;2831957]Thank you! Your info are very usefull. I look forward to use it.

So also e Kota Indah and Kelapa Gading are good like Classic?

About to ask to girls about mamasan, I will have to told "Di mana mamasan Anda?[/QUOTE]I know this forum is to help provide info. But wow, this one person probing for information has an uneasy feeling to it.

Even the translation app thing is a bad touch.

Dimana ibumu? <-That you don't pull from an app. You figure that out from banging 18-20 year old's a lots and tipping Ibu 50 k when she brings you someone you could fall in love with. Wow, I didn't realize I missed Jakarta so much.

[QUOTE=Hilo77;2840762]I think I have posted these before. Probably only you and Smoothy (where's he now?) could name them.[/QUOTE]Shame on me! I blame the age for not remembering all their names. Besides, I also had been very intrigued by the lips of the one next to Prapti on the duo photo.

[QUOTE=Hilo77;2840762]I think I have posted these before. Probably only you and Smoothy (where's he now?) could name them.[/QUOTE]Indos are hotter than Thais.

[QUOTE=IrishMongrel;2841158]If I had to choose between the two I would stay at the Shangri-la. My company used the Mulia as the corporate hotel but I spent most of my time in BATS. CJ's was a lot darker, harder to see the selection, and BATS just had a better vibe. Was last in Jakarta last October and BATS was busy, so I suspect it has only got busier as the world has settled down. Both of them tended to be full of experienced FL. Was due to be there next week and was going to stay in the Shangri-la, but trip pushed to October.[/QUOTE]Thanks IrishMongrel. Very helpful. I think I will go with your advice. Shame our schedules don't align otherwise it would have been great to have a drink together.

Others. Please let me know your views on the 2 clubs too. Also, if there any reliable high-end escort agencies / whatsapp / telegram contacts to tap into for high quality FLs.

I will post a report after my trip and can also help with my experience mainly in Europe. Switzerland, Germany. Please feel free to PM me.