Sosua Reports

[QUOTE=Steve Urso; 1441080]When you say prices are fixed. What are those prices?

As far as the city goes, is there anything to do, if I want to venture out at some point? I looked at the map, and seems that Sosua is like 30 km away. Don't want to be stuck in a hotel for a week, where I don't like the girl selection / price and have to hike 30Km for that.

Also, the closest airport is Puerto Plata. But the flights even for Miami are overpriced.

Flight to Cibao airport are a lot more accommodating but from what I seen, hotels charge at least $100 for a pick up.

Do you know if at the airport there are cheaper options?[/QUOTE]Not sure of the prices at BB, but someone will tell you who knows better than I. Used to be about 1300 pesos for short time sex and 3000 for overnight.

Spirit Airlines has pretty cheap flights from Fort Lauderdale to Santo Domingo and Santiago (Cibao) , but the catch is that the Santiago flights arrive at something like 2:00 a. M.

If you want to be really, really cheap, fly to Santiago on Spirit, wait at the airport until the morning, then get local transportation to the Metro or Caribbe Tours bus station, and take a cheap bus to Puerto Plata or Sosua.

OR, fly to Santo Domingo, spend you first night in the DR in a budget hotel room in Boca Chica, and then use local bus and taxi to make your way from Boca Chica to the Metro bus terminal in Santo Domingo and then proceed to Puerto Plata. The advantage of this is that while you will spend a bit more money, the night in Boca Chica in a hotel, with access to plenty of restaurants within walking distance plus girls, if you so wish, plus the long bus ride with great views of the country, will be part of a vacation experience, whereas spending the night dog tired sitting around in an airport, much less so.

The flights to Puerto Plata are more expensive, but also more convenient and arrive and depart in the mid afternoon. You pays your money and you takes your choice.

[QUOTE=The Mind Bender; 1441041]Well I'm definitely a GFE type of guy and have had my share of chicas weeping for my departure. I've notice a definite increase in "hunter" types.

Luckily they're fairly easy to spot if you pay attention to their mannerisms and expressions[/QUOTE]Not always.

Many can provide deceptive mannerisms and expressions to lure its prey. Later back in the room the hoe is a poor performer.

All mongers get faked out. It is just about limiting the damage, forget the incident and move-on.

BTW appreciate all the well written and detailed Sousa analysis. Provides mongers with a realistic assessment and strategies for dealing with Sousa hoes.

[QUOTE=Bravo; 1441052]Paying a girl for her time? That is the stupidest thing I have ever heard! Only a complete idiot would reach into his pocket to give a hoe some pesos for having the pleasure of talking to her for 30 minutes! She isn't a psychiatrist, you are not in therapy, why pay her for her time! Just the idea of doing that makes me upset. Not only is it stupid, its a one way street! Once you give one hoe money for talking to you, ALL the hoes will expect to be paid just for saying "hello"!

For those who advocate this behavior, I have one question for you. What do you think is a proper amount to give to a girl? Should you have to pay her 500 pesos if she spends 20-30 minutes with you? 1000 pesos for 30-40 minutes. How much for 5 minutes of conversation? What if she spends 30 minutes with you, but you bought her a Corona, should that be deducted from her "talking fee"?

I am sorry, but talking and trying to seduce a man into taking her back to his room, is part of the hoe's business. Now I don't agree with guys talking to a girl for 2-3 hours and then at the very end of the evening deciding to take someone else, that is jut plain wrong. But don't tell me that if you talk to a girl fro 20 minutes and you decide that you don't like her attitude of she won't do the things you want in the room (Pics, BBJ, morning sex, etc.) that you have to give her money while she walks around the room looking for her next client!

Imagine if you are a salesman, you went into a client's office and you spend 1 hour explaining all the ways your product can help his business. At the end of the hour, the client says "Let me review everything and I will get back to you!" Would you get upset and yell "You have to pay me 1000 dollars for my time! I could have been on another call where he would have signed a contract right now! Give me my money!"

I swear, some people should never be given a passport! There should be a monger test before they are handed out![/QUOTE]Paying for a girl's time is not uncommon in certain Asian countries. The difference. The monger consents first and agrees to the price before the chica sits with you.

[QUOTE=Bravo; 1441205]Maybe I am just cut from a different cloth than some of the guys on this board. To the guys who say "Don't fight back, you will make it worse for yourself. Just bend over and take it like a man!" I can't do anything for you, keep doing you brother! My attitude is "If you are going to screw me over, then I will try my best to stop you! If I can, I will try to make sure there are some negative repercussions for your actions so you will never try to do it again!" Its not in my nature to just bend over and hand the person some KY jelly, in order to make it easier for them to fuck me over!

Now, I won't waste hours and hours of a chica's time and then decide to walk off or to grab a different girl. I usually take about 15-20 minutes during the interview process to determine whether I will take her back to my room. Now if she fails the interview, I damn sure am not going to hand her money for a 20 minute conversation. This isn't a game show, there are no consolation prizes!

My question for the guys who think it is a good idea to pay hoes to talk to you. Where do you draw the line? (Because everyone on here knows, Once the word gets out that Americans will pay money for you to speak to them, then they will all expect to get paid.) At what point do you stand up for yourself?

Example :

1) A girl approaches your table, sits with you for 5 seconds, you look at her and say "Thanks but no thanks!" She asks you to buy her a Corona. You respond "No, I am not buying you a drink". She stands up and yells, you wasted my time! Give me money or else I will call the police!" How much are you going to reach into your pocket and pull out?[/QUOTE]-Let her call the police.She's bluffing-besides what service did she provide-NOTHING-Been going there quite awhile.never.had or seen this scenario-Police would just laugh at her

[QUOTE=The Mind Bender; 1441041]Well I'm definitely a GFE type of guy and have had my share of chicas weeping for my departure. I've notice a definite increase in "hunter" types.

Luckily they're fairly easy to spot if you pay attention to their mannerisms and expressions[/QUOTE]Early on in the game the chicas would accompany me to airport. Saying goodbye with tears in their eyes,"Voy a extrañar, mi dulce cartera".

This subject has been brought up but was kind of left up in the air so I wanted to confirm what I concluded from this discussion. It has to do with Passions and their 1 hour 2500RD$ session. Basically, as I understand it that payment is for the hour session FS but the specifics of FS vary from girl to girl. I would absolutely love (possible deal breaker) DFK, BBBJ, DATY, and MSOG. I should discuss this with the girl before hand. My chances are good of BBBJ as most there do that and if they refuse I should talk to Peter. However, I'm very murky on the other ones. Specifically, if I pay for one hour and it's early in the trip and I haven't gotten into my groove yet say we go 30 minutes. Surely the session doesn't end do we just lie there for 30 minutes? I would greatly appreciate if some of guys could share your experience with me and maybe your thoughts on how accurate my assessment is. I assume TLN includes MSOG. Thanks guys your experience is invaluable.

Scott

[QUOTE=Zedman99;1441368]-Let her call the police.She's bluffing-besides what service did she provide-NOTHING-Been going there quite awhile.never.had or seen this scenario-Police would just laugh at her[/QUOTE]You are basing this on the Dominican police doing the right thing? Obviously you haven't been going to the DR long enough.

Hey Vets!

Anyone got any tips for snagging cute bartenders? Saw a hot one in Dlatins a few weeks ago but she was playing too flakey which read to me as "not interested"

[QUOTE=Mr Gogo;1441221]Sit back and see who the aggressive and hardcore girls are. Looks don't trump hardcore, aggressive chicas to me. Most guys see the big ass and pretty face and tend to disregard all the other tells. Recipe for disaster. It might be that quiet, laid back. Girl alone in the corner that is the one, but guys don't even see her because she just looks average. Sosua has traps so you better be careful. Just like we don't like girls that change the deal in the room, the same respect is due to the girl in the negotiating process. The only difference is she knows how to play a corrupt game better than you do.[/QUOTE]Yeah I've learned the hard way that looking for a big ass alone can ruin your night. A lot of the super shapely girls are super hardcore or complete assholes. Nowadays I go looking for the cute "bunny" chica standing on her own who's maybe a little overwhelmed with the bar scene and looking for someone to rescue her.

[QUOTE=Shamester;1441361]Not always.

Many can provide deceptive mannerisms and expressions to lure its prey. Later back in the room the hoe is a poor performer.[/QUOTE]

I feel like even the "smart ones" give themselves away if you take some time to vet them

if she meets you and wants to go after 60 secs then she's hardcore and will probably try to finish up quick so she can head back out

sometimes you just need to step outside your own hornyness and judge with a clear head lol

[QUOTE=Cagep1967;1441374]Early on in the game the chicas would accompany me to airport. Saying goodbye with tears in their eyes,"Voy a extrañar, mi dulce cartera".[/QUOTE]I still get that. Got to know what to look for in a girl.

I tend to treat the chicas very well so the morning after they want to come back and see me in the afternoon

[QUOTE=Mr Gogo; 1441075]That's the point most guys here don't get. They want to play the "Tough guy" role, but then when there asses are locked up in a Dominican jail over 500p, then they want to call momma in the states crying for help. Or better yet they want to come on this board acting like they have been victimized and needing our help to get out of jail.

Fellas listen, if you have to pay 200p (5usd) to learn a lesson, pay it. Fuck the principle when the other option is a jail with 100 other Dominican dudes.[/QUOTE]I would say everyone should take MR Gogo advice. Girls are local and they can survive the Police and jail time. Most of the foreigner from USA should not take the risk of dealing with police for 200 pesos.

[QUOTE=The Mind Bender; 1441399]Hey Vets!

Anyone got any tips for snagging cute bartenders? Saw a hot one in Dlatins a few weeks ago but she was playing too flakey which read to me as "not interested"

Yeah I've learned the hard way that looking for a big ass alone can ruin your night. A lot of the super shapely girls are super hardcore or complete assholes. Nowadays I go looking for the cute "bunny" chica standing on her own who's maybe a little overwhelmed with the bar scene and looking for someone to rescue her.

I feel like even the "smart ones" give themselves away if you take some time to vet them.

If she meets you and wants to go after 60 secs then she's hardcore and will probably try to finish up quick so she can head back out.

Sometimes you just need to step outside your own hornyness and judge with a clear head LOL[/QUOTE]Usually you can ask her in a nice way to meet you at your hotel-learn a little spanish for that.she'll either say yes or no-Just remember most of the bartenders consider themselves above the CHICAS so you'll probably be paying $$$ more.

[QUOTE=SavePros321; 1441056]Trust me, if you are faced with being extorted by a chica for a few pesos versus being hauled off to jail, you'll start hearing that old M. O. P. Anthem in the back of your head: "ANTE UP!", LOL.

But seriously Sosua is what is currently is now: a trap. Ask around. A few veteran mongers will tell you that they have been in this exact same situation. Just sitting at the bar talking with a chica, passes on her for a different chica, cops get involved and the monger had to "Ante Up" to make all parties happy (go away without much more fuss). Could have ended up costing them much more if they decided to "fight the powers that be" (500 pesos turning into 60, 000 pesos).

At the end of the day it doesn't matter if you think it is "right" or "fair" or not. This is the New Sosua run by the Politur and the chicas and you guys are just willing participants in their con game (I've written off Sosua long time ago). If you are lucky you get to pay for some ass without any hassle. But if you get accused of something, you pay a shitload of money, not to prove otherwise, but to get out of jail and get on an airplane back home before the Dominican Legal system puts a drain on your bank account and life savings.

Speaking of which: whatever happened to C-Mo Cakes's homie? Is he still stuck in the DR?[/QUOTE]-Surely the veteran mongers you speak of will tell us who they are and will surely know the girls to give us a heads-up.

Sosua is a trap for the people who let it be a trap. I will never give a "chica" $$ for me saying no to her and not buying her a drink. And she wants to start trouble just let her try it has nothing to do with being a "tough guy.It has everything to do with being a TARGET for all the hustlers What a joke now you want the monger to just be a target for everything and everybody. I will never listen to your ridiculous advice and I hope the newbies don't either. Your just setting them up as targets.

[QUOTE=The Mind Bender; 1441401]I still get that. Got to know what to look for in a girl.

I tend to treat the chicas very well so the morning after they want to come back and see me in the afternoon[/QUOTE]- Total agreement with you-simply take your time and think with your head that's on your shoulders and look for the nice 'chicas'-there are alot of them there.

As I said before ----Sosua is not a trap unless YOU let it be.

-The Mind Bender proved my point

[QUOTE=Zedman99;1441405]Usually you can ask her in a nice way to meet you at your hotel-learn a little spanish for that.she'll either say yes or no-Just remember most of the bartenders consider themselves above the CHICAS so you'll probably be paying $$$ more.[/QUOTE]See this is why bartenders annoy me.

They do the same thing but with more hypocrisy.

I'll try your suggestion though, I may have been too aggressive last time

[QUOTE=Zedman99; 1441410]-Surely the veteran mongers you speak of will tell us who they are and will surely know the girls to give us a heads-up.

Sosua is a trap for the people who let it be a trap. I will never give a "chica" $$ for me saying no to her and not buying her a drink. And she wants to start trouble just let her try it has nothing to do with being a "tough guy. It has everything to do with being a TARGET for all the hustlers What a joke now you want the monger to just be a target for everything and everybody. I will never listen to your ridiculous advice and I hope the newbies don't either. Your just setting them up as targets.[/QUOTE]It's a health debate Sir, but you are basing everything you believe in on corrupt cops doing the right thing. Doesn't sound like sound advise for a newbie, does it? I also doubt that you will be one of the guys going to the police station helping the accused. So if guys are reporting about this happening at Rumba, its in everyones interest to exercise caution and stop a situation from getting out of hand.

From what you are reporting it appears to me that you are assisting with the trap.

Also we are talking about guys negotiating in good faith and then saying" I've changed my mind" after a bottom price had been agreed upon. No one said pay a girl to sit down for a drink and chit chat. Thats something you have drawn into the conversation to try and rationalize the irrational.