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[QUOTE=Kadol; 1245628]I'm a senior. 65+
Do you think that I will be chased away in BJbars, massage parlours and so on?[/QUOTE]It does not matter if you are 90 and pissing and shitting in a bag.
Do you have money? That is all that matters.
You will do perfectly fine I am sure.
[QUOTE=Kadol; 1245628]I'm a senior. 65+
Do you think that I will be chased away in BJbars, massage parlours and so on?[/QUOTE]It is in the Thai culture to be very respectful of older people. Being old, still healthy and (relatively) well off, is a sign that you have good karma, so being with you will spiritually reflect well upon your Thai GF (even if it is only for one night).
Of course, you will have to live up to your status!
[QUOTE=Poker Broker;1245566]Eden Club looks like a must do to me (plan on getting there early and sampling 2/3 girls minimum)[/QUOTE]Personally I think two girls is optimal. One girl you can get anywhere else at better prices and the beds are somewhat smallish to add a third girl. Do not expect to receive a GFE, it is more a PSE. Unless you really boss the girls around, the proceedings run according to a well rehearsed script (which was fine by me, but YMMV).
[QUOTE=Poker Broker;1245566]I would love to hear from anyone that can offer a 'bucket list' of must do's and see's of the mongering world in Bangers. Funding is no issue so I will not be overly driven by a budget (however I planning on paying only what is expected and reasonable!).[/QUOTE]The agogos of Soi Cowboy are a must see. Suzie Wong is my favourite. I have always received a nice welcome and found someone for LT there. They are not pushy, leave you time to explore, sample and decide. And every time I came there they had full frontal nude shows. Either they paid the local BIB more tea-money or it is in a different precinct than NEP because clothes are not optional in NEP.
I'd give "After Skool" a wide berth, unless you want to receive a quick BJ in the naughty boys corner: the girls are rather pushy here and although the ladydrinks are cheaper, you will be surrounded by at least three girls who all want to have a drink at the same time.
Baccara was too busy when I visited it and the novelty of the glass ceiling wears off quickly. It seems to be favoured by the Japanese and farang are the girls' "plan B" only. Still, it is something you want to see, if only to be able to say you have been there. I never took anyone from there, but they have a nice line-up of fair-skinned, smallish and skinny girls (true to the Japanese taste) , but I rather favour the Isan-type tanned look.
Long Gun and Rawhide offer you the old style "in-your-face" pussy shows (pulling needles and flowers on a string from their pussies, blowing out candles with their pussies, smoking.) , but once you have seen that, there is little to recommend these places.
Rumour has it that some of the agogo bars are very bad at bookkeeping and overcharge you for your and your lady's drinks. Always check the tabs and complain immediately if it is not correct. It never happened to me, but some other members have reported this.
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan; 1245428]First of all I live here and not to get what I can't afford in the USA, by the way what the fuck are you doing on this board you hypocrite and yet you have the nerve to make such a statement while you are most likely the one doing just that. I came here with a open eye and heart and regardless of how I came to feel like this about Thais, I try very hard everyday not to allow my negative views affect every Thai I come in contact with but it doesn't mean I shouldn't have a opinion about them. That opinion doesn't mean I have power over them. But in the conversation by Mr. E, it is only natural that the one that has the money is the one with the power or in control. Do you just give or loan money without asking questions in your life? The opinion I expressed regarding the conversation I use to think it happens only to me then I found through many Expat that have live and work here for 30 years share the same opinion.
You seem to completely missed the point. I can assume when you come to Thailand to get what you can't afford where you live! I'm sure when you land in Thailand you don't suddenly become stupid and just give your money away or overpay just because she is a bargirl that wants something for herself. If that is the case then you are stupid! When it comes to money that one earns you have the power to control how it is spent and if giving your opinion and advice to someone that wants it then it is power that I control. And if someone has the nerve to ask for something that they don't need (which is in this case) then they should expect a opinion or lecture no matter which country we are talking about but in Thailand the Thais don't see it that way! Bargirls in particular are taught that there is one standard for a Farang and another for a Thai. Tell me have you ever gone to someone and ask to borrow money or to just give it to you without a explanation? In the past I have even been asked to give a opinion on something and when they didn't like the answer they got upset just like the conversation Mr. E, had with this girl. It is as simple as that.
My self-awareness isn't derived from just watching and listening unfortuately for me I have live it and more than once. I've learn the hard way and hopefully you learn something before it happens to you. You might have been lucky so far in your life but your comment in my opinion makes you the biggest target in my book. A big tootsie roll walking down Sukhumvit? If yo are just a visitor who come to Thailand because you can't afford the pussy in your own home and only objective is to stick you dick in a hole this conversation is too over your head so please do me a favor and don't respond or just use the ignore button you pay for!
I usually sign off with my handle as a sign of respect to who I respond to regardless of whether it is negative or positive. In this case I sure you will understand?[/QUOTE]This is a perfect example why some of us have now chosen to limit posting on here. I would like to use this post as an example. I just need to say in this case the author is quite rude and argumentative! The op just gave his opinion and nothing else. If he feels like paying more or buying an IPHONE for a bar girl, that is his business. If he gets more millage because of it then good for him! At the end of the day there would be no bar girls, no Soi cowboy, no Nana plaza and so on if it were not for customers like us to support them. Some customers pay more and some pay less, who cares! For you to say that the customers who pay more, sponsor girls, or buy them gifts are stupid then I want you to think about one thing! How stupid do you think you would feel if members of your family, colleagues, and maybe some of your friends knew you saw bar girls and prostitutes as a hobby? Think about this before you start insulting people on the board for giving their opinion. Please as members have said in the past. Stop the madness and get back to posting some good reports! I am really tired of hearing about politics, water, flowers and how stupid you are if you pay more than the last guy or more than the next guy. It is not your money to complain about hence none of your business. You would think it is your money or something. Honestly if you can say that the customers that pay more drive the prices up then you are more naive than the guy that pays more LOL!
[QUOTE=Chill Out;1245499]Do tell us more :) A mini course on the games of white lies, half truths, saving face & sanook would be useful for most of us in a relationship with a thai (bargirl or otherwise).[/QUOTE]I'd suggest LBM's latest post in the General Thread as an excellent example. The guy is IMO well tuned into the Thai culture.
[QUOTE=Harold444; 1245637]Bargirls like senoir citizens.
1. Have more money.
2. Power is greatly diminished. Just can't get penis hard for long periods of time. Hahahahahaha.
3. Easier to scam. Hahaha.
Your elder stateman status should be no problem sir.[/QUOTE]LOL, this harold guy is quite the character. Has anyone actually ever seen a REALLY old guy with a young girl? I'm talking maybe 80-90 year old dude
[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano;1245815]LOL, this harold guy is quite the character. Has anyone actually ever seen a REALLY old guy with a young girl? I'm talking maybe 80-90 year old dude[/QUOTE]I'm not sure if he was 80-90 but he sure look like it? He could barely walk, the girl helped him on his special made 3 wheelers and placed his walking sticks in a holder and off they went.
LBM
I am booked to stay at the Four Points Sheraton which was decided by a few factors. Primarily as I am in a group I had to adhere to cost considerations, however based on this board and my brief email to the hotel. They are girl friendly. If anyone could offer their thoughts / experiences with Four Points I would be greatly appreciative. I also notice that the hotel is almost exactly halfway between Soi Cowboy and Nana which I thought was a good location to sample delights.
I spent two weeks at the Four Points and it is an excellent choice. Also close to Themae and afternoon action at the beer garden on Soi 7. BG7.
You will never be bored.
Following my previous report, I visited SOL for the second time today at around 11:00 AM. This time only 3 girls were sitting outside. Chose the one who was slim and appeared to have nice big tits under her top and got inside. Later found that the girl is 'Pla' which has been mentioned in some of the previous reports. Not with a beautiful face but has a nice slim body with well-shaped big. And as I later realized fake. Tits.
Inside, I noticed that the sofa on the far end was occupied by a guy having BBBJ type of fun with his girl. Sounds like a more exhibitionist atmosphere this time. I ordered a drink for myself and one for her and we talked a little. She asked me if it is my first time which I answered negatively telling her that I'm familiar with the rules."You want suck?" She asked and I smiled and answered positively. She brought her bag, did the initial cleaning and started the BJ. Nice technique with deep-throating, gentle ball-licking and professionally caressing and stimulating my body with her hands. After a few minutes, The guy sitting on the other sofa finished and stood up and I noticed that there was another guy sitting on that sofa whom I couldn't see when I entered. They walked to the bar area, order beers and started drinking and talking together. Now Pla and I were almost in full view of them. In 10 minutes I asked her to switch to boom-boom which she happily obliged, put a condom on my cock, and started riding me reverse cowgirl. Later we switched to missionary and suddenly another guy came in followed by two girls, watched me for a few seconds, and then went to the toilet with one of the accompanying girls. Then I decided to switch to doggie which I did and after a few minutes finished in that position. Good performance from Pla for which I thanked her and tipped her 200 THB.
Total damage 1380 THB (1000 for boom boom. 100 for lady drink. 80 fro my drink. 200 tip). This time I enjoyed the atmosphere a lot more as it matched my exhibitionist taste and I didn't see any rude or racist behavior from any of the girls. I would have liked to stay a little longer but I had to go reach an appointment so I finished my drink and left the place.
THUMBS UP! I will return again!
[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano;1245815]LOL, this harold guy is quite the character. Has anyone actually ever seen a REALLY old guy with a young girl? I'm talking maybe 80-90 year old dude[/QUOTE]It was some years ago and you just do not see women quite that hot so often now.
He was 85 if he was a day and she was SMOKIN! In fact come to think of it he had two women taking care of him. The second one was just an ordinary beauty.
Thank You all for the suggestions so far. Within 24 hours I will be landing and getting straight into it. Thermae looks interesting and will definitely check it out. Also pretty keen to see what the Beer Gardens are like. I will report thoroughly on all experiences.
I am afraid I have two quick follow up questions. I am running low on time so have not had the opportunity to RTFF on these.
- everyone is suggesting SOL for better or for worse, what is this place actually called? Is SOL an abbreviation?
- my travel partners are also keen to visit some 'standard' type night clubs. My hope is that all will still offer a range of free lancers regardless if the place is legit or not. Think the nightclub scene from Bangkok Dangerous. Do such 'mega club' type places exist and would anyone recommend checking something like this out?
Not everyone in the group is an overt monger so I would like to head to clubs that have a good atmosphere and the old lady up for a LT if I don't have the time to get to a GoGo etc.
Also what are the best recommendations for anything past the 2am closing time? Is there places you are still guaranteed to find a LT / ST past this time? Or once the clock strikes 2am are you basically looking at street walkers only?
Looking forward to getting into it. Thanks again all.
[QUOTE=Kadol; 1245628]I'm a senior. 65+
Do you think that I will be chased away in BJbars, massage parlours and so on?[/QUOTE]Hi Kadol,
If you are a 'nice guy' and treat the girls nicely then your age will NOT matter at all.
You will be welcomed with 'open arms' (and LEGS!)
Just ENJOY them all (I do.)
Hotman
[quote=poker broker; 1245889]thank you all for the suggestions so far. within 24 hours i will be landing and getting straight into it. thermae looks interesting and will definitely check it out. also pretty keen to see what the beer gardens are like. i will report thoroughly on all experiences.
i am afraid i have two quick follow up questions. i am running low on time so have not had the opportunity to rtff on these.
- everyone is suggesting sol for better or for worse, what is this place actually called? is sol an abbreviation?
- also what are the best recommendations for anything past the 2am closing time? is there places you are still guaranteed to find a lt / st past this time? or once the clock strikes 2am are you basically looking at street walkers only?
looking forward to getting into it. thanks again all.[/quote]
sol = star of light. i would recommend dr bj's or [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] for the beginner. they are located quite close to each other on sukhimvit while sol is in patpong. sol is an acquired taste and may ruin your impression of bj bars unless you are into a certain kind of 'atmosphere'. how that i think about it how the fuck did it get its name?
kinda. once the regular bar in sukhumvit close down then everything appear to migrates bar stalls around suk soi 4-7 (nana bts) with the girls continuing todrink / eat.
another option is to ask one of the tuk tuk drivers to take you somewhere but this is obviously going to be subject to commission / higher prices but if you're only in town for a short time it could be worthwhile given your time contraints. however it is not something i would ever do or have done.
alternatively you could get the ph number of girls you meet in bars and hook up with them after you have finished partying for the night.
[QUOTE=Kadol; 1245628]I'm a senior. 65+
Do you think that I will be chased away in BJbars, massage parlours and so on?[/QUOTE]It is amazing how devoted some young girls are to older men. Atleast by outward appearance. Girls from very poor family are not treated well in their surroundings. If a old foreigner shows compassion, treats her well and
Takes care of her economic needs, she tend to be good in order not to kill the golden goose.
There are horror stories as well how they milk guys to their none and cast them away.
As for mongering irrespective of how much money the old guy has girls have their preferences. Some will never be caught dead with a old guy. Not all bargirls are willing to be barfined by a old guy. Yes, they will sit and.
Get their ladydrinks to make money.
Will you be chased away from mongering venues? Hard to say. There will not be a get out or else situation. Thai are subtle in ways. They will say something like all girls are busy, can you come later or there are only some.
Old girls left etc. For ST arrangement many girls will be willing I suppose especially in BJ bars or massage places.
Experiences vary from person to person. You need to frequent these places to find out what your individual experience is.
There is no general answer.
[QUOTE=Sammon; 1245935]It is amazing how devoted some young girls are to older men. Atleast by outward appearance. Girls from very poor family are not treated well in their surroundings. If a old foreigner shows compassion, treats her well and
Takes care of her economic needs, she tend to be good in order not to kill the golden goose.
There are horror stories as well how they milk guys to their none and cast them away.
As for mongering irrespective of how much money the old guy has girls have their preferences. Some will never be caught dead with a old guy. Not all bargirls are willing to be barfined by a old guy. Yes, they will sit and.
Get their ladydrinks to make money.
Will you be chased away from mongering venues? Hard to say. There will not be a get out or else situation. Thai are subtle in ways. They will say something like all girls are busy, can you come later or there are only some.
Old girls left etc. For ST arrangement many girls will be willing I suppose especially in BJ bars or massage places.
Experiences vary from person to person. You need to frequent these places to find out what your individual experience is.
There is no general answer.[/QUOTE]If you are still young in your hard and be able to show your confidence, you will have no problem. Only my point of view.