Pattaya Reports

Here are pictures of two girls I met on the ferry on the way to Ko Larn for a day trip on Day 23 of my Pattaya junket. I spotted them on the ferry and made eye contact. Then I saw them on the beach trying to take "selfies" of themselves together. I offered to take pictures for them. Then, without prompting on my part, they asked me if they could have pictures of them with me. Who was I to refuse? The language barrier seemed a little too great and there seemed to be plenty of other fish in the sea on that day (and there were, including a stunner who, at the last moment, was stolen away as a result of my own stupidity) so I didn't pursue them. In retrospect, though, as I look at these pictures now, I wish I'd taken more of a run at these two. Either one would have been fine, but the one in the black top I found to be especially appealing.

[QUOTE=WildBillLewis;1705235]I thought I'd share some thoughts since the memories are so recent and so painful.

First, if you are thinking that you will get a Thai girl to go with you to Coral Island and lie next to you, looking oh so smoking hot in her skimpy bikini, think again. You can get Thai girls to go to the beach, but be prepared for the fact that they will cover themselves up as much as possible to protect themselves from the sun. You know all those bathing suits that you see for sale in Pattaya, well they are sold to tourists. I personally bought one the day I checked into Chaba Hut which had a really nice pool. Paid 250 Baht against the original asking price of 400 Baht. I thought I had a bargain. I imagined (wrongly) that I would be able to persuade at least one of the girls I banged to join me by the pool. I eventually gave the bikini away to a girl who said she might use it. I will post a picture of my "girlfriend" on Coral Island, all wrapped up. You'll see what I mean.

[/QUOTE]Here is the picture I promised of my "girlfriend" Or from the first day of my ill-advised two day trip to Koh Larn on Day 10. I never came close to getting her in the water, nor did Iever get her into the bikini I had bought. In this particular case it was just as well. As you can see in another one of the attached pictures, to all outward appearances, Or was really quite lovely looking, but the day after I first met her, she went and disfigured herself by getting one of the worst tattoos I have ever seen. It covered nearly the whole of her midsection. It was dreadful. Two days after I first met her I bar fined her and, to my dismay, discovered the tattoo when she disrobed late that night. The tattoo was also painful to the touch and since I take no pleasure in the pain of others, I did not fuck her that night. The Koh Larn trip came a few days later, by which point things had gotten frosty between us. That first day on Koh Larn signaled the end of my time with Or. In retrospect, I should have ended it immediately upon discovering that she had disfigured herself. If I had done that, I would have saved myself at least 7,000 Baht. More to the point, she should have been honest and told me that she had done this to herself (and that sex might be painful for her) before agreeing to let me bar fine her for multiple days. I still resent her lack of honesty in that regard. Of this I am certain, there will be many men in her future who will quickly send her packing when she disrobes and they get their first look at her tattoo.

I thought I'd offer a few thoughts on what to buy, what to bring, where to stay and how to get around Pattaya. I'll preface my observations that every traveler is different and what might work for me might not work at all well for others.

When It comes to getting around, I'm a walker so given a choice, I prefer to walk whenever I can. I find I see more and learn more that way. That said, when time is short, I take the Baht bus. They run up and down the length of Beach Road, Second Road and Soi Buakhao. They can be hailed at any point and will drop you at anywhere you want, all for 10 Baht. Pattaya abounds with good deals. Of them all, Baht buses may be the best. Then again, maybe the best deal in Pattaya is the street food: it is delicious, abundant and exceptionally cheap. Eat a little bit each time. Eat often. Venture outside your comfort zone. While in Pattaya, between the diet, the heat, and the exercise I got from walking (and from some horizontal exercise to boot), I went from 177 pounds on arrival (80 kilograms) to about 168 pounds (76 kilograms) on departure and I didn't feel weak. I felt fantastic.

When it comes to clothing, my central recommendation would be that you not bring very much with you to Pattaya. Most articles of clothing can be bought as needed. Some articles, like socks, are so cheap that you can afford to treat yourself to a new pair every day. One thing you should, however, bring with you is underwear: the stuff they have on sale in Pattaya is odd by Canadian standards and nobody wants to spend a month feeling not-quite-right down there. If you are a walker like me and spend a lot of time outside, another thing you should bring, in my opinion, are T-shirts made of one of the new quick-drying fabrics. In addition to being super-light and easy to pack, they are easy to rinse in the sink and they dry wrinkle-free. Bring only one set of shoes, but be sure to bring a relatively new pair and bring some shoe deoderizer because it is hard to find in Thailand and if those shoes ever get wet (and it has been known to rain in Thailand from time to time), you and everyone around you will appreciate it greatly. Bring condoms from home (and bring lots of them). Thai condoms may be tough, but they aren't particularly comfortable. Don't bring long pants: it is too hot here for them. If you're like me a do a fair amount of walking in the high heat, bring multiple tennis sweat bands for the head: they are hard to find in Pattaya and when you do find them, you'll pay a king's ransom. I am including in this post a picture of the bag that saw me through the whole of my 28 days in Thailand. Beside it is the stuff I chose to leave behind. Don't bring a lot.

Also, don't waste money booking hotels with a pool if you think it might help attract Thai girls: as I have observed elsewhere, they have zero interest in getting into a swimsuit and exposing themselves to the sun. When it comes to accommodation, don't book ahead. If you've never been to Pattaya and, in order to feel secure, believe that you absolutely must book something ahead of time, book ahead for only one night and then look for a Guest House: they abound, there are always rooms available, they are usually of good and sometimes of exceptional quality, they are cheaper than hotels and the price in cash is always cheaper than when booked on-line. I stayed in many, and the best of them all by a country mile was the Walking Street Guest House. It is modern. It is clean. It is quiet. It is cheap. Its location simply cannot be beaten: as the name implies, it is on Walking Street right across from Lucifer's. If you find a good Guest House and decide you'd like to stay for, say, a week, be sure to ask for a discount: you will be sure to get one.

One thing that took me a while to get used to was the fact that nightlife in Thailand doesn't really get going until 1 o'clock at the earliest. It really doesn't. Walk into Marines at midnight and it will be just you and the wait staff. Two hours later and it will be packed with women looking to have you take them home for the night. Things peak peak at 3 o'clock and in the best places the action is still going strong at 5 o'clock.

Time-wise, what does a great day in Pattaya look like. In my view, it looks like this:

Go to a disco at 2 am. Take a girl of your choice home by 4 am, and be confident that, in Pattaya unlike at home, there will be many from which to choose. Lay pipe until 6 am. Sleep until between noon and 2 pm. If you haven't done so earlier, send your new friend on her way by 3 pm, then head out for a bite to eat, replenish supplies, get a haircut, shave or massage, etc. At 7 pm, take a nap if it pleases you. By 9 pm, be at your place of choice for "short time" fun in the early evening: that might be any one of a thousand beer bars, or Soi Honey, or Soi 6, or Soi Yamato or it might be Beach Road. The choices available to a man in Pattaya for "short time" fun are, for all practical purposes, infinite. What do I mean by that? Well, you'd have to start very early in life, and be at it every day of your life, and live a very long life, to exhaust the opportunities available to a man in Pattaya for "short time" fun. God simply did not give us lives long enough to exhaust the possibilities that Pattaya presents to mortals like us. That's what I meant when I said that the choices available to a man in Pattaya for "short time" fun are, for all practical purposes, infinite. After you've had your "short time" fun, bid the girl goodbye and take a two hour nap. Then get up around 2 am and head to the disco. Repeat the process until exhausted. Oh yes, and enjoy the journey for too soon you will be home (like I am now).

[QUOTE=Goodle;1705215]We are nothing but customers. We are not competing with Thai boys for their hearts. Why can't guys see they are not a Thai girl's dream cum true. Buying girls is no different than buying a McD's hamburger.[/QUOTE]We must separate the truths from the myths LOL!

Dear WBL,

Thank you for taking the pain and patience to write down and explain on 'How to' in Pattaya.

Whilst you are right in mentioning that what works for you might not work for others, that said, basics are always the same.

I am not planning on visiting Pattaya soon or might not be able to alone (family issues), in the future, but just that it makes a informative read. And thanks for that.

Cheers,

FunkySexy.

[QUOTE=WildBillLewis;1705364]I thought I'd offer a few thoughts on what to buy, what to bring, where to stay and how to get around Pattaya. I'll preface my observations that every traveler is different and what might work for me might not work at all well for others.

Then get up around 2 am and head to the disco. Repeat the process until exhausted. Oh yes, and enjoy the journey for too soon you will be home (like I am now).[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Goodle;1705215]Get your head out of your REAR END, We are nothing but customers. We are not competing with Thai boys for their hearts.

Why can't guys see they are not a Thai girl's dream cum true. Buying girls is no different than buying a McD's hamburger.[/QUOTE]Let me start by saying that I know perfectly well that we are nothing but customers. I made this point (and others) in an earlier posting where I chronicled some of the lessons I'd learned during my 28 day visit to Pattaya. Here is what I wrote: "The first lesson (and it is easily forgotten because the girls can seem so lovely) is that while most of them will be happy to go with you, most of them will also be happier to leave with your money in their purse. Money is the only reason they make themselves available to go with you in the first place, be it in the bars or on the beach. It really doesn't matter if you are the reincarnation of Casanova himself, while they may enjoy their time spent with you, they plan to be with someone else the next day or the day after that. That is their business model. " I know we are customers.

As to your presumption about the anatomical positioning of my head and the need to change it, let me say that my observations came from listening very carefully to the stories told to me by women I met on this trip and another month-long trip that I took to Thailand two years ago. Two years ago I heard from Noi and Luckky, with whom I spent a great many days, their stories of having been abandoned by their deadbeat Thai husbands, left to care without support for the children they had sired. On my most recent trip, I heard Or tell me a similar story on Day 4. On Day 5, I spent a few hours by the pool listening to Pepsi tell me her story. On Day 6, I spent a few more hours listening to an articulate bar girl located near LK Metro tell me a similar story of abandonment. On day 15, I heard similar tales of woe first from the lady who runs the cash at the Den Bar, and then from the articulate and thoughftful Pung. Two days later, I heard Naja tell me her story of abandonment. On Day 18, Nit share with me some of her story. Again it was one of abandonment and the difficult choices that she had been forced into to make ends meet. I could go on, but I won't, except to say that if one takes the time to listen carefully, one can get a deeper appreciation of things.

I'll say two more things in response to your comment. First, it is difficult to listen if one's head is stuck in one's rear end as you have suggested mine is. Second, you may feel comfortable belittling these women to the point of equating them to hamburgers purchased from McDonald's, but I have never once had a conversation with a hamburger. Girls are not hamburgers. Paying them for time spent and services rendered is not the same as buying a hamburger. These girls, most of them, find themselves carrying heavy burdens. They deserve to be seen and to be treated as people tying to do the best they can in difficult circumstances. Respectfulness goes a long way in this world. Why not give it a try?

[QUOTE=WildBillLewis;1705364]Go to a disco at 2 am. Take a girl of your choice home by 4 am, and be confident that, in Pattaya unlike at home, there will be many from which to choose. Lay pipe until 6 am. Sleep until between noon and 2 pm. If you haven't done so earlier, send your new friend on her way by 3 pm, then head out for a bite to eat, replenish supplies, get a haircut, shave or massage, etc. At 7 pm, take a nap if it pleases you. By 9 pm, be at your place of choice for "short time" fun in the early evening: that might be any one of a thousand beer bars, or Soi Honey, or Soi 6, or Soi Yamato or it might be Beach Road. The choices available to a man in Pattaya for "short time" fun are, for all practical purposes, infinite. What do I mean by that? Well, you'd have to start very early in life, and be at it every day of your life, and live a very long life, to exhaust the opportunities available to a man in Pattaya for "short time" fun. God simply did not give us lives long enough to exhaust the possibilities that Pattaya presents to mortals like us. That's what I meant when I said that the choices available to a man in Pattaya for "short time" fun are, for all practical purposes, infinite. After you've had your "short time" fun, bid the girl goodbye and take a two hour nap. Then get up around 2 am and head to the disco. Repeat the process until exhausted. Oh yes, and enjoy the journey for too soon you will be home (like I am now).[/QUOTE]Wow, what a great explanation. All this can come only from experience, a salute to you Sir.

I have enjoyed and read all your posts of 28 days and particularly your summary was excellent. Thanks for being honest and so liberal to share your views and thoughts which might help others.

Cheers and have a great monger days in your life.

Look, we all know the game and the Thai Ladies know it better than we do. The bar girls come to Pattaya from up north or other places for Baht. Yes, they perform for money to support themselves, family, grandparents, etc. When family members get old or sick the government does nothing to help. Most of these girls carry a tough burden to survive without any education or boyfriend or husband support. I always try to show respect even if I land a starfish now and then. The way I look at it is we are all consenting adults, I am there to have a great time and they are there to make money and survive. They do me a favor and I do them a favor and support their cause whatever it is. So show some respect and you might just get some extra mileage and receive more attention than you bargained for. Treat these beautiful women like McD's hamburgers and I hope you get the shits!

[QUOTE=Goodle;1705215]Get your head out of your REAR END, We are nothing but customers. We are not competing with thai boys for their hearts.

Why can't guys see they are not a thai girls dream cum true. Buying girls is no different than buying a McD's hamburger.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Goodle;1705215]Get your head out of your REAR END, We are nothing but customers. We are not competing with thai boys for their hearts.

Why can't guys see they are not a thai girls dream cum true. Buying girls is no different than buying a McD's hamburger.[/QUOTE]And that is why "Money Number One" and "Private Dancer" should be required reading for any monger before entering Thailand.

Me and my wingman had a blast with our last taxi driver swapping stories on the way to the airport. The driver told us about one chick who got with an Australian dude. They got married and she went to stay with him in Australia for 10 years. Then they went back to Thailand and had a house built in the place she was from. The house was finished during the 12th year they were together. The day after the house was ready she told him to get the fuck out.

But foreigners are a Thai girl's dream come true as long as they have money in their pocket. Show up without money or run out of money if you really want to see what kind of dream you are and how much respect they have for you.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1705634]And that is why "Money Number One" and "Private Dancer" should be required reading for any monger before entering Thailand.

Me and my wingman had a blast with our last taxi driver swapping stories on the way to the airport. The driver told us about one chick who got with an Australian dude. They got married and she went to stay with him in Australia for 10 years. Then they went back to Thailand and had a house built in the place she was from. The house was finished during the 12th year they were together. The day after the house was ready she told him to get the fuck out.

But foreigners are a Thai girl's dream come true as long as they have money in their pocket. Show up without money or run out of money if you really want to see what kind of dream you are.[/QUOTE]That's why if you want a relationship here in Thailand, keep your standards, or keep to P4 P. Don't support a gal. Would you "build" a gal a house in back home and put it in her name? Probably not. You would both pay towards it. Dudes throw their ideals out the window because they stick it in a "pretty young thing" and in six seconds they are in love.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1705634] But foreigners are a Thai girl's dream come true as long as they have money in their pocket. Show up without money or run out of money if you really want to see what kind of dream you are and how much respect they have for you.[/QUOTE]Yes, that old adage is so true: If you want to get laid in Thailand, hire a hooker. Don't ever get married; don't even keep a girlfriend.

If you want a true friend and meaningful relationship, get a dog.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1705634]And that is why "Money Number One" and "Private Dancer" should be required reading for any monger before entering Thailand.

Me and my wingman had a blast with our last taxi driver swapping stories on the way to the airport. The driver told us about one chick who got with an Australian dude. They got married and she went to stay with him in Australia for 10 years. Then they went back to Thailand and had a house built in the place she was from. The house was finished during the 12th year they were together. The day after the house was ready she told him to get the fuck out.

But foreigners are a Thai girl's dream come true as long as they have money in their pocket. Show up without money or run out of money if you really want to see what kind of dream you are and how much respect they have for you.[/QUOTE]I read the book. You forget that even with all the info out there, there are still guys that think their girl's different.

When they get took, you have to listen to there sad stories or wait for them to go over the balcony.

[QUOTE=WildBillLewis;1705471] ... cut ... observations came from listening very carefully to the stories told to me by women I met on this trip and another month-long trip that I took to Thailand two years ago. Two years ago I heard from Noi and Luckky, with whom I spent a great many days, their stories of having been abandoned by their deadbeat Thai husbands, left to care without support for the children they had sired. On my most recent trip, I heard Or tell me a similar story on Day 4. On Day 5, I spent a few hours by the pool listening to Pepsi tell me her story. On Day 6, I spent a few more hours listening to an articulate bar girl located near LK Metro tell me a similar story of abandonment. On day 15, I heard similar tales of woe first from the lady who runs the cash at the Den Bar, and then from the articulate and thoughftful Pung. Two days later, I heard Naja tell me her story of abandonment. On Day 18, Nit share with me some of her story. Again it was one of abandonment ....cut...[/QUOTE]Wbl. Thank you for your insightful & detailed posts.

I too have heard so many times the above also, in fact, so many time I am beginning to wonder if this story is being delivered to us as part of the bargirls 101 training manual. LOL.

Mtg.

[QUOTE=WildBillLewis;1705208]As for your first paragraph, I can only say that I never had the pleasure of such experiences when I was younger. I envy you those experiences.

I have to agree with most of what you wrote in your second paragraph: the lack of skill on the part of the younger set was a bit of a disappointment, and you're quite right about them clamming up when you ask them what pleases them. You're also right that, with age comes more confidence, at which point some of them do open up. If they've been at it for a while, their language skills also tend to be better. If they have come late to the game (perhaps because their Thai husband has left them with kids to care for and no means of support) then they also bring a certain ballast from the school of hard knocks which can sometimes make for a more interesting person to talk with.

I think we falang owe a debt of gratitude to the many Thai men who do their best to make even the worst of us falang look good in comparison to them. While I'm at it, I'd also like to thank all those tall Thai guys who, instead of becoming tall, strong Thai guys who might have provided competition to us, chose instead to become ladyboys. Hoever they came to make that choice, it has had the effect of reducing the competition for us, leaving Thai girls to choose between us falang and deadbeat Thai heterosexual males who, in all likelihood, can be counted upon at some point to leave them in the lurch. As a general rule, we don't leave them in the lurch. From us, they know what they're getting: our most compelling feature is that we leave them with money in their purses, providing them with options that they would not otherwise have. That is the real reason why Thai women lock to Pattaya like swallows to Capistrano.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=WildBillLewis;1705208]As for your first paragraph, I can only say that I never had the pleasure of such experiences when I was younger. I envy you those experiences.

I have to agree with most of what you wrote in your second paragraph: the lack of skill on the part of the younger set was a bit of a disappointment, and you're quite right about them clamming up when you ask them what pleases them. You're also right that, with age comes more confidence, at which point some of them do open up. If they've been at it for a while, their language skills also tend to be better. If they have come late to the game (perhaps because their Thai husband has left them with kids to care for and no means of support) then they also bring a certain ballast from the school of hard knocks which can sometimes make for a more interesting person to talk with.

...leaving Thai girls to choose between us falang and deadbeat Thai heterosexual males who, in all likelihood, can be counted upon at some point to leave them in the lurch. As a general rule, we don't leave them in the lurch. From us, they know what they're getting: our most compelling feature is that we leave them with money in their purses, providing them with options that they would not otherwise have. That is the real reason why Thai women lock to Pattaya like swallows to Capistrano.[/QUOTE]And I second everything above as well. I had a 22 year old Thai au pair for two years (hands off) and got to know her and her Thai friends. They all had low opinions of Thai men and all wanted to met Americans while they were Au Pair. About half did and got married to one. I will also credit my au pair for fully activating my hard on for Thai woman. Her friends would met at my house and get ready to go out on a Saturday nights. Dressed to kill, in full club gear, fuck that was hot. When I made my first trip to Thailand, I was met by a friend of my former au pair in Bangkok. (I had met this girl, "Leep", when she was in the USA as an au pair for about six months. Didn't work out and she returned to Bangkok). My au pair told Leep to show me around and make sure I was OK first time. Leep was incredibly sweet, nice figure, OK face, had now a good job at an insurance company where her improved English skills were paying off.

I couldn't believe it when Leep gave me a cell phone with internet as well as a BTS Skytrain Rabbit card (preloaded fare) upon arrival. Leep thought it would be important to be able to call someone if I got in trouble, got lost or needed something. She took me around Bangkok on a Saturday when she was off. She told me that she had to get a dress for a wedding that Sunday. I told her I'd be OK go with her. That stunned her. No Thai guy would ever do anything like that. I was looking forward to seeing her try on some short skirts. During that day, one of the things I asked her was is she had boyfriend and what was going on with men in Thailand. She said she no boyfriend and that she had wanted to met a white guy when she was in the USA. Most Thai guys didn't like the fact that she made more money then they did and didn't need them to survive. She didn't get asked out much because she was now considered old (28). Face palm! She knew I was leaving to Pattaya and than Koh Samui, she probably figured what I was doing there. She kept asking why I was travelling alone. I deflected those questions because she had a link to my home life and I didn't want to deal with that. However, when she sent me a text later that week asking to join me for a weekend in Koh Samui, at that point, I was like "bring it on". And she did, and she drank more than she should have and I fucked her much harder than she had ever been and she really liked that. She had been in America several month and did not get a boyfriend. She was so grateful to get her first American dick. She told me not to discuss this with her friend and that she would not discuss with anyone either. The world was officially turned upside down. I could not believe the paradox of Thai girls, too successful, no boyfriend, too much in trouble, no boyfriend, too old, no boyfriend. Holy shit. No wonder they will fuck the hell out of farang, and get paid to do it.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1705634]And that is why "Money Number One" and "Private Dancer" should be required reading for any monger before entering Thailand.

Me and my wingman had a blast with our last taxi driver swapping stories on the way to the airport. The driver told us about one chick who got with an Australian dude. They got married and she went to stay with him in Australia for 10 years. Then they went back to Thailand and had a house built in the place she was from. The house was finished during the 12th year they were together. The day after the house was ready she told him to get the fuck out.

But foreigners are a Thai girl's dream come true as long as they have money in their pocket. Show up without money or run out of money if you really want to see what kind of dream you are and how much respect they have for you.[/QUOTE]Not all of them are cheaters and deceivers. So as long as I think a girl is OK she gets my respect. But of course I'm always watching my back and if they tell me sad stories I do not always believe them. I'm not gullible.

Show up without money or run out of money anywhere in the world to see how much respect or interest women have in you, LOL!