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[QUOTE=GentileBear;2857383]Blah Blah Blah, I RTFF (read the fucking forums) backwards and forwards and came to this itinerary for my first post Covid Jakarta trip:

Overall. Go with the Flow. Seems the scene is very spread out but the same places are mentioned over and over. And me? I never even made it to any clubs like Classic in 2019 - I exclusively used Tinder / TanTan. But fast forward to late 2023 and I am wanting more of a 'point and shoot' experience. Especially first when I land:

Here it is:

-Classic (must see, home-base, soo many posts about very thin ladies).

-Travel.

-Kings Cross.

-Star Moon and *Kota Indah * (Jayakarta) the horseshoe bars. Will go afternoon first to get a feel for the area. Then go back at night

-Tinder Gold while in hotel.

-WeChat while in hotel..[/QUOTE]

Some of you are really cool with the hints and strategies of dealing with the ladies of Jakarta. Appreciate it. Sucks I missed a few messages because I was there in Jakarta and no ISG was available.

So! How did it turn out? Well I saved money in Kota Indah's Starmoon. Right now they have Happy Hour starting at 2 pm. Starmoon and Classic both serve dark Guiness bottled beer with an Aluminum cup filled with Ice Cubes. And they will stab your Beer mug with Ice cubes. Mind you. Guiness is a Strong beer. And I had a great playful attitude. So why not?!

Go Up?

Go Up?

Go Up?

Baby. I want to drink first. Also. Starmoon seems to continuously have Guns and Roses playing mid afternoon. Which I find bizarre as I am the only Bule there and the girls don't really like Rock -maybe it was the law of attraction? Go Up? Baby. I buy you one. Here. Mamasan asks bartender to my table. I hand signal to order her a drink. She comes back to give the girl a glass bottle and then fills it with ice cubes and some of my Guinness. Ok cool. Then I buy 1 more beer. She drinks like a Sailor. Cool! Go Up? Mister Go Up? Take Drink to Room? Go Up? Go Up? Go Up?

Now I had just wanted to get a feel of Kota Indah area in the day when I first arrived but being in there I felt very comfortable. It's not that sketchy based on my Tijuana Zona Norte experiences and I was made to feel welcome. The thing is that in Jakarta. There are no Fitchas (ladies drinks) - so they apparent don't get any commissions from drinks. But I got lucky on my first 3 or 4 sessions! I have always like ladies who drink and when the beer guzzling Jakarta ladies get a Fast buzz off of the Guiness. I decided to Go Up.

Starmoon 20 year old lady says to me on her phone that I am meaty big and adorable. She and I are drunk and we take our shower and I am impressed with her natural body. Did not take long to extend my johnson and make it into the cockpit raw. Yes! The ladies in Jakarta like to suck on your nipples and stomache as well as suck your balls and other different actions. Good attitude and very accommodating. Starmoon lady. Not obsessed with the antiseptic bottle spray (lysterine) like Classic ladies are. But I let them be professionals and do their thing.

I know I am rambling here. But I'll just say that due to the LOOKS of the ladies in specifically Starmoon, Sari Aryu and Classic. I never made it to Kings Cross or even Malio (Maliobro) - even though my hotel was walking distance to Malio. I was GodSmacked at the quality of the bodies!

Sadly I am getting older fatter and need my wingman Cialis to assist my accomplishments. I also like to drink (yeah I know). But Classic ladies want you to nut. Sure its their business. This is thier job but I got to say I was really impressed with the attitude of most of my session leaders. Classic's facilities are excellent. The Hotel rooms are clean and the showers work very well. It is like you are going on a date. You can order her an Avacado Smoothy and you a Guiness Beer to the room. You are "rushed" to Go Up. And the mamasans are as hyper and insistent that you do. Sari Aryu in Kota Inda. Which is to the left of Starmoon has my favorite type of seating. Big ass red couch like an Italian Restaurant. Cool because I hate barstools anyway. The lineup presentation. Here I made a rookie mistake. One was flawless and stunning and the other ladies were watching me drool over her. Some in the line up smiled back at me and some did nothing. I was drunk as usual and decided that I had to take the risk and go up with this amazing super sexy Goddess. Going UP everything was fine and dandy. Shower time holy fuck her body was flawless. On the bed She Absolutely FREAKED when I Suggested BBFS. Her hand gestures were like a Chinese old lady waiving NO with her finger. Her face went into a Screaming Cat Hate and Anger.... Wow. Ok Got it. Not going to pursue that option. I will say that that was an outlier situation and BBFS was readily available here and at Classic and Starmoon.

Lots more I could write. Maybe more later. Oh for First Timers to Jakarta -don't do what I did: See. When the driver of the 3 Wheeler Blue Tuk Tuk names a price they put out their fingers. 3 fingers. 4 fingers. 5 fingers.

Fuck me Jesus it took me about 3 days to figure out that 5 fingers meant the guy expected 50,000 IDR (Blue note) not 500,000 or (5 brown notes). I was using these as transportation since I did not have a sim. So I would flag them down. He puts up 3 fingers and you guessed it. I just accidently tipped him 270 K IDR. No wonder they were all so happy to pick me up.

Short Executive Summary. For guys who don't need anal sex and think Pattaya bar girls or Angeles City bar girls are of decent quality looks. You WILL be BLOWN AWAY in Jakarta. Yes! Looks wise. The BIG natural tits, the thicker big boned waist and attitude beats them 100%. Speaking no English is a big factor here. Translation apps are very useful. And the one negative about Jakarta that I have to write about that is FUCKING DISGUSTING is the God Damn traffic. 1 HR to get to Kota Kasablanca mall from the Monument. Just to turn right back and hit a traffic jam. It is misery. But you only live once and there's a ridiculous amount of cute, Hot, stunning ladies over there. There were so many ladies in Classic, Starmoon and Sari Aryu that I probably only saw maybe 35% of their faces and I never even made it to Travel or Kings Kross. Was mesmerizing in Classic alone. They gave me an honorary wooden paddle #69 as I left terminal 2 - which is actually the 3rd floor. And went downstairs to the front. Just kidding.

[QUOTE=GentileBear;2863746]Some of you are really cool with the hints and strategies of dealing with the ladies of Jakarta. Appreciate it. Sucks I missed a few messages because I was there in Jakarta and no ISG was available.

So! How did it turn out? Well I saved money in Kota Indah's Starmoon. Right now they have Happy Hour starting at 2 pm. Starmoon and Classic both serve dark Guiness bottled beer with an Aluminum cup filled with Ice Cubes. And they will stab your Beer mug with Ice cubes. Mind you. Guiness is a Strong beer. And I had a great playful attitude. So why not?!

Go Up?

Go Up?

Go Up?

Baby. I want to drink first. Also. Starmoon seems to continuously have Guns and Roses playing mid afternoon. Which I find bizarre as I am the only Bule there and the girls don't really like Rock -maybe it was the law of attraction? Go Up? Baby. I buy you one. Here. Mamasan asks bartender to my table. I hand signal to order her a drink. She comes back to give the girl a glass bottle and then fills it with ice cubes and some of my Guinness. Ok cool. Then I buy 1 more beer. She drinks like a Sailor. Cool! Go Up? Mister Go Up? Take Drink to Room? Go Up? Go Up? Go Up?.[/QUOTE]Thanks for sharing mate. Excellent write up and good advice.

Thanks for the detailed report. To access ISG from Indonesia you could try the DuckDuckGo browser. It worked for me on a trip 10 months ago.

[QUOTE=GentileBear;2863746]Some of you are really cool with the hints and strategies of dealing with the ladies of Jakarta. Appreciate it. Sucks I missed a few messages because I was there in Jakarta and no ISG was available.

So! How did it turn out? Well I saved money in Kota Indah's Starmoon. Right now they have Happy Hour starting at 2 pm. Starmoon and Classic both serve dark Guiness bottled beer with an Aluminum cup filled with Ice Cubes. And they will stab your Beer mug with Ice cubes. Mind you. Guiness is a Strong beer. And I had a great playful attitude. So why not?!.[/QUOTE]

As far as Jakarta hotels go, I can say from first-hand experience that Hotel Mulia (club CJs) is like John Shaft. It is a bad mutha.

Marble floors and 5 stars for sure. However, CJs, the local bar is what this post is about.

Closed on Sundays and Mondays, CJs has live entertainment. I was there in September and there is a cover band there from Canada that rocks the house Tues. Saturdays.

I was a guest there and they did check my room key upon entering the club. So I'm not sure what the cover charge is for those not staying at the hotel. CJs is on the second floor. There is a public parking garage for those visiting from outside and it will allow you to enter on the 2nd floor.

What I can tell you is there is a fine selection of beautiful Indonesia ladies (and sometimes a European or two) there. The ratio of women-to-men is in our favor guys. Hands down! I think the ratio was 5-1 both nights I was there. The first night I walked in I was malled by two ladies within seconds. I've been at this P4P game for a while so I knew to quickly excuse myself from their presence and walk around and survey the lay of the land. The competition is very stiff for them. CJs is absolutely impressive.

CJs stays open until 3 or 4 am. I arrived the first night around 10 pm to a packed house. The music and atmosphere are great. Do expect to pay 120 k IDR for a beer and 200 k for a mixed drink. The first night there I chose a lady for 1. 5 million for all night. The next night I wanted 3 so I just offered them 500 k to 1 million for the hour, went upstairs, then came back down. Next! Indonesian women can be extremely jealous so part of the 1 million deal is don't walk up to me when you see me back down here talking with another chica. Our deal is done.

[QUOTE=Caramello777;2864011]As far as Jakarta hotels go, I can say from first-hand experience that Hotel Mulia (club CJs) is like John Shaft. It is a bad mutha.

Marble floors and 5 stars for sure. However, CJs, the local bar is what this post is about.

Closed on Sundays and Mondays, CJs has live entertainment. I was there in September and there is a cover band there from Canada that rocks the house Tues. Saturdays.

I was a guest there and they did check my room key upon entering the club. So I'm not sure what the cover charge is for those not staying at the hotel. CJs is on the second floor. There is a public parking garage for those visiting from outside and it will allow you to enter on the 2nd floor.

What I can tell you is there is a fine selection of beautiful Indonesia ladies (and sometimes a European or two) there. The ratio of women-to-men is in our favor guys. Hands down! I think the ratio was 5-1 both nights I was there. The first night I walked in I was malled by two ladies within seconds. I've been at this P4P game for a while so I knew to quickly excuse myself from their presence and walk around and survey the lay of the land. The competition is very stiff for them. CJs is absolutely impressive.

[/QUOTE]There are several Hotel Mulias in Jakarta.

Which was yours?

[QUOTE=GentileBear;2863746]Some of you are really cool with the hints and strategies of dealing with the ladies of Jakarta. Appreciate it. Sucks I missed a few messages because I was there in Jakarta and no ISG was available.

So! How did it turn out? Well I saved money in Kota Indah's Starmoon. Right now they have Happy Hour starting at 2 pm. Starmoon and Classic both serve dark Guiness bottled beer with an Aluminum cup filled with Ice Cubes.
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Starmoon 20 year old lady says to me on her phone that I am meaty big and adorable. She and I are drunk and we take our shower and I am impressed with her natural body. Did not take long to extend my johnson and make it into the cockpit raw. Yes! The ladies in Jakarta like to suck on your nipples and stomache as well as suck your balls and other different actions. Good attitude and very accommodating. Starmoon lady. Not obsessed with the antiseptic bottle spray (lysterine) like Classic ladies are. But I let them be professionals and do their thing.

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Lots more I could write. Maybe more later. Oh for First Timers to Jakarta -don't do what I did: See. When the driver of the 3 Wheeler Blue Tuk Tuk names a price they put out their fingers. 3 fingers. 4 fingers. 5 fingers.

Fuck me Jesus it took me about 3 days to figure out that 5 fingers meant the guy expected 50,000 IDR (Blue note) not 500,000 or (5 brown notes). I was using these as transportation since I did not have a sim. So I would flag them down. He puts up 3 fingers and you guessed it. I just accidently tipped him 270 K IDR. No wonder they were all so happy to pick me up.
[/QUOTE]Great post. Experience is the best teacher!

Starmoon
I have never been here. Is the Room/bedsheet clean? Or should I BYOS (Bring Your Own Sheet)?!! What is the price to take the lady to the Room?

Blue Tuk Tuk
When the driver holds up five fingers (50,000 IDR), I respond by showing three fingers (30,000 IDR). The driver *expects* you to negotiate, so they quote a higher fare.
The driver who you tipped 270,000 IDR, will remember you for the rest of his life.

~BKKguru

No, generally you will NOT be able to use a local SIM with your foreign phone unless you register.

However, this depends on the age of the phone. I have never registered any phone and my old iPhone X continues to work with my local Telkomsel SIM, but my iPhone 13 will not. Both phones have the latest iOS updates, so I think it's a hardware difference. My iPhone 6 also works w / o registration. This situation is fine for me as I can hotspot of my IP X to my IP 13 or my iPad, and the data is cheap.

I think you really need mobile data so you can use Grab, WhatsApp, Google Translate, Maps, etc when you are on the road. So either you have a cheap international roaming plan (an American friend says the US company T-Mobile offers 5 GB free data roaming in most ASEAN countries) or you have to buy a local SIM and figure out a phone that can use it. You could of course buy a cheap second-hand phone in Jakarta and hotspot off that. All new or second-hand phones sold in Indonesia should be automatically registered.

If you wish, you can easily and cheaply register the IMEI of your overseas phone at the airport. There are many signs as you pass baggage claim and turn right to exit customs. I don't know what that does and whether you are giving the local law enforcement authorities a simple way to connect your intercepted SMS or e-mails with your passport identity. I have avoided registering for that reason.

Personally, I would just bring an old iPhone X or older and use it for hotspoting. My last choice would be to not have mobile data.

Background: the government started requiring all phones used in Indonesia to register the IMEI data. This is supposedly to reduce the inflow of untaxed "black" foreign phones, but I think the measure also designed is to have better visibility over people's private communications. Hong Kong and other authoritarian regimes do the same. I don't want to be on their radar, if possible.

See also: [URL]https://indonesiaexpat.id/outreach/info-for-expats/heres-how-to-report-cell-phones-purchased-from-abroad-and-avoid-getting-blocked/[/URL].

[QUOTE=Menteng;2861084]You're meaning that without registering the IMEI, you can use those SIM cards in your foreign mobile phone?

I have a registered SIM card but I can't use it in my foreign mobile phone only on my Indonesian one.[/QUOTE]

I think any VPN will get you access. Always works for me.

[QUOTE=RickSteves;2863853]Thanks for the detailed report. To access ISG from Indonesia you could try the DuckDuckGo browser. It worked for me on a trip 10 months ago.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BKKguru;2864078]
Starmoon
I have never been here. Is the Room/bedsheet clean? Or should I BYOS (Bring Your Own Sheet)?!! What is the price to take the lady to the Room?



~BKKguru[/QUOTE]I would say bring your own sheets. Hahaha. It is not as nice upstairs like Classic is. Shower works but I do remember one shower having no shower-head. So it would Spray like the Asian toilets have that side spray handle attachment. But hey it was only 350 K IDR and came with a professional Clove Smoker - all as I remeber from Starmoon bar had great attitudes and I can still remember the smiles, groans and eye contact. Call me a Simp. But I like good eye contact and the Indo ladies are great at this.

Yeah the bed is kinda well worn and broken in at Starmoon to be honest.

[QUOTE=Caramello777;2864011]CJs Bar in Hotel Mulia[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2864016]There are several Hotel Mulias in Jakarta. Which was yours?[/QUOTE]I'm guessing the one where CJ's bar is, Hotel Mulia Senayan Jakarta.

[QUOTE=Caramello777;2864011]As far as Jakarta hotels go, I can say from first-hand experience that Hotel Mulia (club CJs) is like John Shaft. It is a bad mutha.

Marble floors and 5 stars for sure. However, CJs, the local bar is what this post is about.

Closed on Sundays and Mondays, CJs has live entertainment. I was there in September and there is a cover band there from Canada that rocks the house Tues. Saturdays.

I was a guest there and they did check my room key upon entering the club. So I'm not sure what the cover charge is for those not staying at the hotel. CJs is on the second floor. There is a public parking garage for those visiting from outside and it will allow you to enter on the 2nd floor.

What I can tell you is there is a fine selection of beautiful Indonesia ladies (and sometimes a European or two) there. The ratio of women-to-men is in our favor guys. Hands down! I think the ratio was 5-1 both nights I was there. The first night I walked in I was malled by two ladies within seconds. I've been at this P4P game for a while so I knew to quickly excuse myself from their presence and walk around and survey the lay of the land. The competition is very stiff for them. CJs is absolutely impressive.

CJs stays open until 3 or 4 am. I arrived the first night around 10 pm to a packed house. The music and atmosphere are great. Do expect to pay 120 k IDR for a beer and 200 k for a mixed drink. The first night there I chose a lady for 1. 5 million for all night. The next night I wanted 3 so I just offered them 500 k to 1 million for the hour, went upstairs, then came back down. Next! Indonesian women can be extremely jealous so part of the 1 million deal is don't walk up to me when you see me back down here talking with another chica. Our deal is done.[/QUOTE]Wow. 200,000 Rupiah for a mixed drink, but 500,000 for a lady in an upscale bar.

Very nice, but very strange.

Is it still a dark den? I used to spend a week every month in the Mulia, but got fed up with CJ's favoring BAT's. However, was in BAT's a few months ago and the selection was pretty slim, and well towards ladies in their 30's or older. Had one drink and left. You've got me interested in CJ's again.

[QUOTE=Caramello777;2864011]As far as Jakarta hotels go, I can say from first-hand experience that Hotel Mulia (club CJs) is like John Shaft. It is a bad mutha.

Marble floors and 5 stars for sure. However, CJs, the local bar is what this post is about.
[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=IrishMongrel;2864845]Is it still a dark den? I used to spend a week every month in the Mulia, but got fed up with CJ's favoring BAT's. However, was in BAT's a few months ago and the selection was pretty slim, and well towards ladies in their 30's or older. Had one drink and left. You've got me interested in CJ's again.[/QUOTE]The last time I checked out CJ and BATS was 2019. Great steak and drinks at BATS. Girls are way too old and trying way too hard. And if they're going to be so aggressive looking for business, they should reduce their price, but no. MILF for 2 M ST was just not going to work out. Also, it's so dark down there that I couldn't see the product worth a shit.

CJ was incredible. Found me some college CUTIES but stupidly they were afraid to go back to my place unless I booked multiple girls at once. 2 M + 2 M for LT. I've never had a LT stay past 5 AM. They usually ask for ride money and get out before traffic starts. So I said no, and no, and no, until I met a pretty one and invited her back for 1 M LT. Found out in the room with the lights on why she accepted 1 M. MILF and not skinny. She looked young and hot in the club.

Lesson is that CJ has cuter girls and likely will get your better mileage than BATS. But make sure you had your eyes checked and can see in club level lighting. Cuties are plentiful at CJ's.

This info is from 2019. If anyone has any updates from this report to reflect, I'd love to hear how the places are now.

[QUOTE=GentileBear;2863746]
Short Executive Summary. For guys who don't need anal sex and think Pattaya bar girls or Angeles City bar girls are of decent quality looks. You WILL be BLOWN AWAY in Jakarta. Yes! Looks wise. The BIG natural tits, the thicker big boned waist and attitude beats them 100%. Speaking no English is a big factor here. Translation apps are very useful. And the one negative about Jakarta that I have to write about that is FUCKING DISGUSTING is the God Damn traffic. 1 HR to get to Kota Kasablanca mall from the Monument. Just to turn right back and hit a traffic jam. It is misery. But you only live once and there's a ridiculous amount of cute, Hot, stunning ladies over there. There were so many ladies in Classic, Starmoon and Sari Aryu that I probably only saw maybe 35% of their faces and I never even made it to Travel or Kings Kross. Was mesmerizing in Classic alone. They gave me an honorary wooden paddle #69 as I left terminal 2 - which is actually the 3rd floor. And went downstairs to the front. Just kidding.[/QUOTE]Not sure I agree with the "big boned waist" comment. I love how skinny the girls are.

What the f**k are you heading to Kota Kasablanca for from Monas? Shit bud, just go to Grand Indo or Plaza Indo in Thamrin.

As for traffic, after several visits, it's amazing how you learn to stay at the perfect hotel to avoid traffic. If you're trying to head north around 6 PM, I would recommend that you NOT stay on the east side of the street. Otherwise, you head into a bluebird, and you're southbound until the driver can make a you-turn. And in parts of jaksel, that could be a fucking 45 minute drive to the next you-turn! Be on the west side of the street, and it could easily save you 30 to 60 minutes of traffic. Grab GoJek motorcycle / scooter saves a ton of time also.