WildBillLewis remarks / question
Hi dear chap,
A nice cost report.
I have the question. How and where did you get the cheap fucks in Pattaya?
I am 58 years old with a good body but a skinny 22-29 year old asks me always 4000 bath in Thailand! Already 8 years ago!
Maybe I am just for friendly.
Second I have the remark. Ladies drinks (and buying clothes and food a lot of guys do to get "free girls") have to be put on the "fuck bill" of a girl!
(That's why I always take street walkers. Look - take to one to fuck. And throw again on the street. Maybe giving one supermarket drink in my hotel room is she looks nice).
Further; at you're home you don't just sit in house doing nothing I imagine!
Looking in bikini bars and the possibility just not the need to take "again" a woman but just take a cheap drink is the biggest biggest biggest benefit of all in Thailand.
That's much better then wasting time on watching TV / DVD.
For the first time after 8 years I can go alone (without my wife) to Thailand.
But I am so afraid to get to horny in the bikini bars.
And pay 4000 bath for a skinny younger girl (20-22 year) or again 800 bath for another ugly older one of which I get sick to have with me the whole night with me.
In fact that's what get me run out of Thailand 8 years ago again and again.
(also the drugs they put in opened bottled drinks and the stealing ladyboys).
Only the girls you remember afterwards at home where worth the money and effort!
Many times in the old days I mixed up pictures of the girls at home because they just all look all the same.
These days I just take "special girls" who "do something" to me.
Sorry for type mistakes. I am Dutch.
But hey. I am 58 years and 2 x fuck a day will do.
[QUOTE=WildBillLewis;1704752]One question I puzzled over before my trip was the question of budget. I'm retired, I'm 60 years old, and want to make a number of trips over the next decade. The only way I'll be able to stretch the money I've saved for such follies is to set a budget each trip and try to stick to it. For this trip I set aside a budget of $6,000 Canadian. For the purposes of comparison, that would be roughly $6,200 in Australian dollars, about $4,700 in US dollars and around 3,200 in British pounds.
About $1,000 Canadian (17%) went to airfare to get me there and back. While I was there, I either walked or took the Baht bus for the most part. For accommodation I budgeted another $1,000 Canadian, which worked out to just over 900 Baht a day. For day-to-day necessities like food (bought mostly from street vendors) and other odds and sods (like smokes, beer for the room, proper massages, hair cuts, shaves, additional condoms, Kamagara, etc.), I set aside another $1,000 Canadian, which worked out to another 900 Baht a day. I deliberately set aside nothing for excursions: I had toured about Thailand two years ago: the focus of this trip was girls and I didn't intend to fritter my money away on things unrelated to the purpose. This left me roughly $3,000 Canadian, or half of my budget, to be spent on chasing girls and activities related to getting them into bed. This worked out to about 2,700 Baht a day. Converted back to Canadian dollars, this was roughly equivalent to spending $110 Canadian a day..[/QUOTE]
Pattaya Trip Report. Day 7
Pattaya Report – Day 7 (Final night).
This is my last day to monger in Pattaya. In the morning I return to Bangkok to see friends and don't expect to monger there, so this will also be my last night to monger in Thailand. Mixed feelings about this. I am getting tired and all good things must end, but I hope the day goes well.
Even though I didn't get to bed until 4:30 AM after flopping out on WS, I still crawled out of bed at 10 AM. I was hungry and crossed over to the beach side of Beach Road to view the pretty water. I passed by an attractive lady standing alone with a purse and a market bag. I smiled and she smiled back and I kept walking. Wait. Is she a FLer? I turned around and found her looking back at me. I turned around and went over to her and started talking. After a bit I said I was heading to lunch and would she like to join me. Yes, she did, and we went to Pizza Hut. She said she had worked in BKK but quit her job as her boss was mean due to declining sales or something, so she had an aunt in Pattaya who said she could get a job down here. Well, she hasn't been able to find one yet. Later, in asking more about her family, she said she had a son in a BKK hospital needing an operation for a stomach condition and, while he could stay in the hospital for free, she needed 5000 B for the surgery. Well, hmm. The girl has very good English, is nicely dressed, has very good manners and is clean and well groomed. She does not look at all like a typical FLer or bar girl. She actually looks like she has some Indian in her. But really, this is a classy woman. Very slender, and I was shocked when she said she was 38. I really don't know if the story about needing 5000 B by Monday is true or not. Irrelevant to me, but I then asked her what she was out doing on Beach Road. "Trying to sell myself" was the blunt answer! She knew of no other way to get the money she needed. I am thinking I have another potential GFE here, so I asked if she wanted to come with me to my hotel, and she does. Back in my room, she showers, then I shower and we come together in bed. She is pretty flat chested and probably doesn't have an ounce of unnecessary fat on her. Very tight and toned, with dark skin. I am kind of disappointed in that she quickly goes to BBBJ. Guess this won't be a GFE after all, but the BJ is nicely done. She takes me in deep and does it nice and slow. CIM might have been ok, but we proceed to cowboy, then doggie then missionary. At first she was super wet, but she dries out and I have to get some lube. Very little kissing. I fake an orgasm since, as I said in my last report, I am trying to conserve fluids and she really wasn't worth it. I mean, see is more than OK for a FLer I suppose, and if her story is true, I can understand her feeling some disgust for what she is having to do, but as with EMP, my first FLer, I am about the best guy she is going to find. I figure she is only worth 1000 B, but what the heck, I had a nice lunch with her so I gave her 2000 B. She did seem very grateful for that amount. She is attractive enough that she should have no problem getting another 3000 B over the weekend whether she has a sick boy in BKK or not.
Soon after that I decide to hit Soi 6. I walk up and down before heading back a third time to settle for a girl at Perry's Bar who was looking cute. Cee was her name. Not a spinner, but still a slender figure but with larger than normal breasts for a Thai girl. Sweet face and, of course, happy to see me. Bar fine there was 350 B and her rate was 1000 B. My kind of numbers. We go upstairs and shower. In bed, she immediately starts with a vigorous BBBJ. She is a little rough with the jewels and I have to tell her to slow down and take it easy. I really don't like a BJ to start when I am less than hard. I asked her to just lie next to me, and the touching helped me get harder than the BJ. When hard, on goes the condom and she slips me inside her. Sex is pretty standard. Nothing really special. She is ok though. I again decide to conserve fluids. She is sad, saying that she came and hoped that I would too. She started tugging on me but was rough again and I said to stop. We cuddled a bit so I could play with her breasts, then we had a clean-up shower and I left. If you like sex fast and rough, try Cee at the Perry Bar. It is closer to Second Street than BR.
I left and walked towards to BR. I passed Offshore Bar, and Nam saw me and waved me over. She was all smiles, as cute as yesterday. I left and kept walking, thinking maybe I would try another bar, but no lady really jumped out at me so I returned to my hotel to work on this report and start packing for a mid-morning departure back to BKK. Happy yet depressed at the same time. But, yeah, if I manage to hook up with a girl tonight – and I WILL as I have conserved my fluids sufficiently that I can let some out – it will be the first time I have been with 3 ladies in one day. Is that an accomplishment I should be proud of? Probably not, as it is happening simply because I am dumb enough to spend money on tang.
I head out to WS a bit before 9 PM. Being a Friday night, it was very busy. My intent was to hit Peppermint up fairly early in the evening and check on #8, the super hot girl I have been lusting for the last few days. The previous night I had really been hitting if off with the mama san to help me out. Would it pay dividends?
First, I went to Living Dolls again. A girl I had fun with was out front and pulled me in. This was my third time here and they have some really cute girls. The girl who grabbed me apparently no longer, or maybe never did, do takeout, but she wanted me to bar fine her for 2 hours and walk around and have dinner. Ummmm, no thanks, but I was polite. She had some friends over from the night before and I bought lots of drinks, but it was getting time to head back to the Peppermint to check if #8 was available and would let me bar fine her.
Walking in, I sat down and the Mamma San quickly spots me. She says #8 is there and do I want to see her? Yes. The girl I sat with yesterday also sees me and comes over. Even though she knows I won't BF her, she knows I am generous with the LDs and she sets down next me. The Mamma San brings #8 over, who is indeed quite attractive. But she knows very little English and seems very shy. How can a woman this beautiful be shy?
Anyway, yes, I want to BF her even though the total costs will be 5200 B. Yes, a lot, but that is for long term until 10 AM the next day. This would be a bargain in the US. We finally leave and her lack of English is showing. I ask if she is hungry and she asks if I am. It is nice she is considerate of me, and with some probing I find that she might be a little hungry so we exit WS and go into the McDonalds just outside the exit. She orders a fish sandwich. We catch a blue truck back to my hotel, but we talk about massages and I ask if she wants one. She asks if I want one. I said I could use a foot massage. We stop at the corner place on Soi 13 and Second Road. She picks a back rub. I picked the foot massage. I should have picked a couples massage (or skipped a massage all together) as they took her back to a private area and I stayed out in the general area. An hour later we enter the hotel.
We talked a little and I ask how long she has been in Pattaya. She says 2 weeks. Wow. I assume she means she has only been in this business for 2 weeks! That means either I will get a GFE as that is the only sex she really knows, or she will be a starfish, totally unsure what to do and possible still scared. Again, communicating with her is difficult and many things I ask about she doesn't understand. We shower, separately. She turns on the TV while I go first. When she is done, she comes out wrapped in her towel and slips into bed. I start touching her. She lies there, dead. I pull the towel away to get access to her breasts. Awesome, soft, round and a hand full. Still no reaction from her. I pull the towel down slowly and eventually get to her V. Shaven, and after a few minutes I think I am getting her to warm up. She is very wet, but she seems to be withholding any type of emotional action. Sheesh. Starfish. Totally limp rag. I am being slow and gentle, giving her a BFE, but still no reaction from her. I think of sending her home at this point, but it late. I put on a condom and enter her. She still just lies there, and as I start thrusting, she makes some moans but I am not sure if they are moans of pleasure or moans of pain. I think that if she has only been working less than 2 weeks, for all I know, she may have only been with a few men before me, so maybe she still hurts down there, even though she didn't seem super tight. But when I ask if she is ok, she just smiles. I ask for doggie and she quickly changes position. She is very nice this way, but still no reaction. Back to missionary. I still can't tell if I am hurting her or not. She might have touched me a few times during this whole time, but this beautiful woman I have lusted about for several days is almost making me limp as I contemplate the moral or otherwise proper thing to do. I am thinking of stopping and just saying sorry, you are free to go, or going back to the mamma san to complain. But I don't. I figure the best thing is for me to simply finish. Viewing her body makes that a not-to-difficult task, as she is indeed beautiful.
When done, she pulls the towel back over her while I go shower. She does not take a shower. She continues to watch TV. I feel a bit guilty, though I shouldn't, and tell her I am sorry she doesn't like me and she can leave if she wants. She smiles but continues to lay there. Did she not understand? Whatever. I roll over and try to sleep. She turns the volume down a few minutes later, which I think was thoughtful. During the night our bodies touched occasionally and she never jerked away from me, so I don't think she found me repulsive. I have been the perfect gentleman with her. Well, other than continuing sex that she was not very interesting in having, that is. At a bit past 9:30 AM, I get up to get ready as my taxi is to pick me up at 10:30. She gets up and, seeing me getting dressed, she asks if it is ok for her to leave. Sure. I mean, this girl is so shy and seemed like she was doing what she was told to do. I mean, the Mamma San told her to go with me and I heard the mamma san tell her to stay with me to 10. (So I guess buttering up the mamma san does help!) Nice girl, shy and still a bit innocent I guess.
Anyway, I kind of feel sorry for the girl. So pretty and someone, for whatever reason, who is now a hooker and big, bad men will use and abuse her. She will make some good money, but at what cost? But I delve in moral issues and that is not the intent in a trip report.
Anyway, I cannot recommend #8 at the Peppermint. Awesome babe, but total dishrag in bed. You will feel great walking out with this fine lady, and I think she is a fine lady, but she will fail you in bed. Beauty fades in a dim hotel room, so spend your money on one who will be fun. However, after a while, Phon may adjust and be as crazy as the rest. But I would not bet 5200 B on it.
After she left, I finished my packing, went to the bus station for the Bell bus to BKK. Just outside of Pattaya, the driver slams on the brakes, I hear a boom then see broken glass flying by my window then a car comes spinning past my window! Yikes. The bus is ok, but the rear end of the car is smashed in. I doubt whoever was in the car survived. Bell sends out a replacement bus to take us away within 20 minutes, to their credit. I don't think Bell was at fault in the accident, but the Thailand crazy driving claims another victim. My thoughts are with the victim and his family.
I am returning to see a different girl I knew through OK Cupid that evening, one I don't expect sex with (and my expectations are later met). And, the next day, to spend my last days in Bangkok with my original Thai GF.
This ends the mongering portion of the Trip Report. 4 nights in Phuket and 7 nights in Pattaya. I may later give some conclusions here and back on the general Thailand board where this report began.
At this time I am back in the USA. It has taken over a week to get this report posted. I will have some final comments, suggestions, etc. In a few more days.
Mon, freelancer at Insomnia
I hit Insomnia just before midnight to take advantage of the cheaper beers. There were not too many people, but I approached a girl in a startingly red dress who was at a table alone with her ugly friend. Her face was very beautiful, she looked about 28, and her English was excellent. I took her out to the Oasis short-time hotel. Her body was OK, especially from the back, as her waist / hip ratio was optimal. But it still looked better in a dress. The dress had a high-cut slit on each side which revealed her thigh almost up to her waist, and I could rub against it when we walked hand-in-hand to the hotel, which was the best part.
She gave me BBBJ, then lowered herself on top of me. We switched positions many times. She convincingly faked an orgasm at least once. She was not exactly trying to hurry me up, but she was surprised that I took so long before coming. The alcohol, as usual.
For a break, I told her to take off the condom and blow me, which she did. I then put on a second condom and managed to finish off what I had started.
Overall, just a so-so experience. I think the problem of going too early is that they are not quite as desperate as at 2 am, and they think they can squeeze in another conquest before the night is over. Would I repeat? No, but I'm happy I got one more P4 P notch. All the girls are different.
